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Joe sits down with Israel Adesanya, a mixed martial artist competing in the Middleweight division of the UFC. He is the subject of the documentary “Stylebender,” available now.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan hosts UFC fighter Israel Adesanya, who shares insights into his career, personal growth, and experiences with fame. Adesanya discusses the pressures of being in the public eye and how he navigates the complexities of fame without a guidebook. He reflects on his journey in the UFC, highlighting the importance of staying active and improving his performance metrics, as advised by his strength coach, Bill Smart.Adesanya also touches on the concept of impostor syndrome, expressing disbelief at his success and attributing much of his life skills to his father. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on the present task rather than getting caught up in titles and accolades. This focus has helped him manage the mental challenges that come with his career, including dealing with post-fight emotions and the need for therapy to maintain mental health.
A recurring theme in the conversation is the importance of having a strong support system, as Adesanya mentions influential figures like Khabib Nurmagomedov and Michael Jordan, who had their fathers as mentors. He also shares a personal anecdote about meeting Donald Trump, which reinforced his sense of belonging in high-profile circles despite occasional feelings of impostor syndrome.
The episode provides actionable insights into maintaining mental health and performance under pressure, emphasizing the value of therapy, staying active, and having a supportive network. Adesanya’s candid discussion offers listeners a glimpse into the life of a professional athlete and the personal growth required to succeed at the highest levels.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
Speaker: Joe Rogan
00:01
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Train by ai. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What’s up, bro? What’s up? What’s up? To see you, my friend. See. What is the chain? What does that what does that stand out for?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
00:18
Engage, this is, my flight wear brand. Ashbelle Castro started this. Oh. He was one of the I’ll say this. He was, one of the only guys who fuck with me before I really, like, blew up. So when I was fighting in China and I lost to Alex, they stopped giving me fights. And I had I think at the time, I was the highest paid foreign fighter in China at the time, probably not now anymore, but then they stopped giving me ai.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
00:44
And I was like, look. I have 7 more fights on my contract. Can I at least just get 3? I just need 3 because money was running out. You know? The money I had saved up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
00:52
And then, yeah, I was down to my last one day, like, $500, and Eugene was holding pads for me to see something was up. And I just said, bro, I’m I’m about to be bryden, this and that, rah rah rah rah. He said, don’t worry. Just leave it with me. I get home.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06
I think I I was on the toilet, and he just goes, check your bank account. And I’m sitting there just, like, start crying, and I call him. He’s like, no. I don’t thank me. Thank Ash who started engaged, and I call Ash. I’m taking a shit, and I’m just like, thank you. Just so much.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:22
Like, honestly, just intense because, you know, I mean, I’ve been there, like, nothing and had everything and nothing again. So for me, yeah, he’s always been a guy that’s been in my corner. And me and Alex Volkanovski now, we, you know, we’ve helped raise the ram, so we own part of the company. So, yeah, I like to rep the set.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:39
Oh, that’s cool. Ai. Nice.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:41
And I think we engage also was last final 3 when they had the whole Reebok fiasco. It was, Venom, Engage, and someone else. I can’t remember who else. So we didn’t get the the gig, but it would have been nice, though.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:55
Oh, the UFC gig?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56
Yeah. Engage ai kits for the fighters, but now it’s Ai fight kits.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:01
Yeah. The whole fight kit thing is weird. I really preferred it when fighters could have sponsors.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:06
Condom dip on the back of your shorts.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:07
I don’t like that. I mean, they should probably have some discretion.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:11
I did like it, though, and I do like the fact now, like, the last fight I had, Hunter hit me up way before any Gold Gloves or anything. He says, Izzy, we’re gonna do this for certain fighters. What design would you like on your shorts? And I was ai, bet. And I hit up Curtis who works with Engage, does a lot of the ai, and I told him what I wanted.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30
And then he just did some custom stuff, and I sent a few to Hunter, and then boom. I got my shorts, the lightning, and I quite like that. I like expression. That’s one thing I do miss about boxing or kickboxing is the expression on the Mong Kong Mhmm. Bands, the shorts, like, Jonathan Haggerty.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:46
Like, he has cool shorts with golden, like, bows on the side. Yeah. I I like that. It’s cool.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:52
I do too. Yeah. Ai a sports game. Everybody has to wear the same shit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:55
I think maybe the UFC at the time, they wanted to be taken seriously in a sense, so we had to like professional sports. But, nah. I think we’re all different independent contractors, and we have different styles. So I’m glad now they’ve brought out for certain fighters like O’Malley in his pink shorts, Bryce Mitchell’s camo shorts. Yeah. You know, let us express ourselves.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
03:17
We are
Speaker: Joe Rogan
03:17
I like that, but I wish fighters had the ability to advertise.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
03:21
Oh, big time. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
03:22
That’s that’s big. Sponsors on your shorts is a lot of money. Like, Shah was making more money from the sponsors than he was from his fight person.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
03:29
Yeah. I agree. And there’s a way to bring it back, I’m sure. But even now, because they’ve got some you get you get some kickbacks, but it’s better if you can just plaster Condom Depot and get a $100 on the back of your shorts. Ai much sai Condom Depot paid for? But I used to think it was funny.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
03:44
And the fact that
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
03:44
was on the on the on the back of the shorts, I’m like, that’s Yeah. Placement ai. I I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
03:49
just feel ai, you know, if they they didn’t like some because it didn’t represent the speak, like, Condom Depot, like, then just fucking Yeah. You know, have a list of ones that you agree to.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:00
That’s actually a good ai, like, sai, approve sponsors, ai, these guys or maybe they go through a check first.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
04:06
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:06
You wanna maybe advertise on a fight of shorts, you have to go through this rigorous check, what’s your company, you know, what do you guys sell? Right. Right or right or right, and then, yeah, plastered on the shorts, get some money. Because But I do like it
Speaker: Joe Rogan
04:18
when boxers wear cool shorts. You know, they wear whatever the fuck they want. Like, I love the one Meh Manhoeffer wear those, the gladiator shorts.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:25
Yeah. Yeah. He was a badass. I like tassels, though. That’s meh when when my shorts I always like tassels because when you kick, the way they shimmer, the way they look, and it just, yeah, makes for cool picks. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
04:36
There’s a that meh, that’s just one of the things about the UFC. Mhmm. Just they they want everything to be uniform Yeah. Organized.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:43
But, again, like, now at the at for certain fighters, they’re changing it, which is good, but hopefully that trickles down.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
04:48
I don’t feel like anybody should be wearing shorts and grappling. I feel like the the temptation for yeah. Tights. Temptation for grabbing is just too much.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:57
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
04:57
And it does happen.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
04:58
Yeah. I’ve seen it. It’s it happened to me even with the what’s his name? Brunson. In the in the Brunson, he grabbed my tights, and I was like, yo, that’s 2 times you’ve done it now. So it is tempting, but I think tights would be the best way to fight. But, again, some guys, like, have cool shorts, and if the if it if that’s their style, that’s their style.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
05:15
Because some people, I guess, maybe their body ai, maybe they got no ass. They don’t wanna be that. But I got something back there, but, like, I don’t know. A guy, like I won’t drop no names, but, like, you know, wearing tights, you look like a fucking Right. Stick or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
05:29
You look a little flat.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
05:30
Yeah. Yeah. That’s what it is, though.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
05:32
Yeah. It is what it is. I mean, there’s a lot of room for expression. Mhmm. It’s it’s interesting to watch, like, all the different styles that people promote themselves as well. You know, like, there’s so many different ways now, and then there’s guys like Alex who, you know, he doesn’t even speak English, and he’s risen to the top just based on performance.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
05:51
But even the fact that he doesn’t speak English, that’s also his super power, just Sharma. Right. What do you think about that fight this weekend? I can’t ai. I just did the breakdown for it. We’re about to drop it on YouTube now. I am picking in this ai, Alex, because I just think the momentum behind him right now is so big. He’s just got momentum. Look.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
06:14
I was the most active champion in UFC history. I think next next to Alex Volkanovski as well, he was right up there with me or if not more than me. I think Alex now is on his way to being the most active champ in UFC history because he’s already saved this year, I think, 2 or 3 cards alone.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
06:30
He’s, like, stepped in and be like Yeah. Sharma. Just does a jump start.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
06:34
And he fights fucked up. He fights injured. Apparently, his knee was really fucked up in the 1st Jiri Prohaska fight. Oh, wow. You know when he stopped Yuri and then he sai he did ai a forward roll off the
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
06:46
Yuri? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
06:47
He said he did that because he didn’t trust standing on his right knee.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
06:50
Oh, wow. Momentum.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
06:51
Yeah. His knee was fucked up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
06:53
So he
Speaker: Joe Rogan
06:54
didn’t like, he was fucked up in training camp and so when he stepped off of him, he just decided to roll forward instead of putting weight on his right knee.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
07:01
That’s smart. That’s some parkour shit. But, again, it’s that’s that’s what you have to do. You look. When you get in the UFC, this is what I did as well. He did it the the right way. Fight as much as possible. Fight as much as possible so you can be in people’s faces so they can see. That guy just fought. That guy just fought.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
07:17
Oh, I just saw him fight last month, and you fight as much as you can, and you get that momentum behind you, and then you become champion. You’re that ai. And then, again, you just that momentum constantly. You’re in people’s faces. You’re getting posted here here, and that’s how you build a stock up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
07:32
So I’ve done that, and he’s doing it the right way as well. And I think if he keeps going but I hope he retires never getting defeated by anyone ever again.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
07:40
Just you. And the way you did it too, oh ai god. That was one of the greatest celebrations of all time.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
07:46
Yeah. It just look. It’s it’s it’s the story behind it no matter what. It’s just the history because David even mentioned to me, my brother said, like, you know you’re the only one that can actually stand with that guy. Like, no one’s lasted more than 2 rounds or even a round with him.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
08:00
And I thought about it during the breakdown, like, yeah, you’re right, and it’s because I knew him. I’ve fought that guy so many times. And regardless of what happened, I lost 3 tyler, and I finally won one. It was just the fact that I knew I could beat him. Every time I fought him, I was just ai, I was I was beating him.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
08:18
I thought you won the first one.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
08:19
I felt so too, but then that’s, you know, the Chinese judges. Boxing
Speaker: Joe Rogan
08:23
the kickboxing fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
08:24
They gave it to him, and then the 2nd fight in Brazil under the same company that he gets me, but, again, I was besting him. Had him on skates. He was fucking and then he bro, his spirit. You know what Jerry said about the whole juju thing? Ai, that’s real. That’s real. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
08:40
So the the last time I fought him in Miami look. He beats me. That’s why I hate when he would say, oh, is he scared? He’s scared. I was like, bro, I ain’t scared as shit. The guy beat me in the biggest, arena on the planet, Madison Square Arya.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
08:52
Same way as the last time he beat me in Brazil in his hometown. I was beating his ass, had him hurt in the end of the first round, all that shah, took him down, and then he gets me in the last round. It’s his spirit, his whatever, like, ancestors or his people that are praying for him, because I got prayer warriors as well.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
09:09
My mom and dad be fasting, and they have people, like, in the spirit praying for me, but, like, the way he carries himself, something about him just he knows how to recover well. So I just knew I could get him. I could get him. And then after that, he knocks me on the biggest arena in the world, and I’m just like, let’s do that shit again, Sana. Because I just knew.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
09:28
I was like, I can get him. And then that camp, I was so I went to a different place, and that was the one I kinda mentioned. I’d I microdosed a little bit ram macrodosed a lot. And, like, I always say this, the shower is the most interesting place on the planet, I feel, because you have the element of water running over your body, strip naked in your bare essentials.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
09:51
You kinda have this if it’s a white shower, you ai, a void white space. I can create a lot in there. I can make a lot of things happen. And, yeah, one time after one of my showers, I just wrote this thing on my mirror because I just had this premonition. Like, this is where I get it done. Like, there’s no way. You could beat me one time. You could beat me 2 times. You might beat me 3 times.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
10:11
But I was like, nah. This guy’s not gonna beat me this time, and I just knew I had to get this done. And the way it happened as well because first round, I think I won, and saloni round, I was winning, but then that fucking leg kick, bro. You know what it is? You look at his foot. You look at this bit of his foot. Mhmm. It’s like a hammer.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
10:31
You know, like a like the like the back of a hammer or hammer like a ball peck. It is because that’s why he kicks you with as well. So he doesn’t have to, excuse me, he doesn’t have to turn the hip over. Right. And then when he hits you with that, even because he’s bone density, long legs, and he hits you with that, you just feel it like, oh, that’s bad.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
10:49
And it’s a it’s a different feeling because I’ve been kicked by kickboxers all my life on the thigh, on the calf as well. But when he hits you with that bit, it’s just a surface area sai small, but it ram it travels and transfers through your whole calf, and you’re like, oh, I can’t put weight on this.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
11:04
It’s so interesting too how he keeps his body completely square, and he doesn’t even really turn the hips. Yeah. That’s And so it’s so sneaky.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
11:12
He doesn’t have to because he’s got so much bone density, so much whip from that little
Speaker: Joe Rogan
11:16
Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
11:17
And, yeah, it’s dangerous, and I think that’s gonna be a problem this weekend for, Khalil. But I don’t know why Chell says he he did you hear about what Chell said?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
11:28
Chell said he thinks Khalil’s gonna knock
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
11:30
him out. That’s possible, but I just don’t think he’s it’s possible, but I don’t think he’s gonna get it done because all it takes is one ram either ai, but I just think Pereira right now has just got that momentum behind him and the frame because he’s gonna just avoid the shots Khalil’s throwing because he just got the long frame.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
11:48
He’ll get out right out the way. And I don’t think Khalil has the reach to mess with him like that, so he might have to get ai. But, yeah, we’ll see. This is why Paper can’t fight Paper. They have to get in there and fight, So we’ll find out.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
12:00
It’s very interesting because Khalil’s so fast, and Khalil’s had experience with high level kickboxers when he knocked out Gokhan Saki. Mhmm. That was a big one. Yeah. You know, that was a big one. And that was, like, early on where everybody’s, like, oh, shit. Gokonsakis ai in the UFC.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
12:13
And then boom, Khalil just takes him out. Yeah. Khalil’s fast. He hits fucking hard. And he throws ai that the the thing that he did with Lionheart, he throws that off speed shit sometimes.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
12:24
He’ll he’ll give you a little of this thing and then he jolts in on you. That off speed uppercut was nasty.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
12:30
It’s the looks. It’s like I’m here. I’m almost Prince Nassim esque but different. Just like looking looking bang. But, again, he’s just violent. Like, when he smells blood, he just goes in. Yeah. Like I said, he beats you ai you owe him money or something. He’s on you. He’s on you. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
12:46
Very violent. But, again, I think Khalil, for him to win this fight, he just has to believe in himself. That sounds real cheesy, but believe in himself. Also, he’s a southpaw. I didn’t think about that. Right. I actually forgot about that till David mentioned it before, but he’s a southpaw.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
13:00
So but I’m sure Alex and his team know how to deal with it. But I understand how Alex deals with southpaws as well because I can fight him both ways, and I know what he when he when you give him that front leg and he knows he can get it, he gets more confident. But if you’re a southpaw, he finds other ways to keep you at bay till he can get that leg.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
13:17
Mhmm. Yeah. It’s gonna be interesting to see, like, right away how Khalil deals with the distance and how Alex deals with the speak. Because the thing is, like, Alex can be hit, you know, and Bruno Silva tagged him a few times. You took him out. I think the ai thing was the I think the drain for him to make 85 was insanity. I think it was insane. He’s so fucking big.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
13:40
He’s he’s still he’s he still can.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
13:42
Yeah. But,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
13:43
look, it only works until you get knocked out and it’s ai, I bet. And let’s go to 205. And I said, look. All these 185ers should thank me, man. They honestly, I thought thank me because he a lot of the top guys didn’t have to fight him. He fought okay. Who did he fight?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
13:57
Strickland.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
13:57
Strickland. Ai was one of the only top guys he fought. Beat him, and then he I think he got a shot at me next pretty much. But, yeah, fucking Rob, Driggers, all them because it’s not about just fighting him. Getting ready to fight him is a different thing, but I had to do it fucking four times, so I understand I have
Speaker: Joe Rogan
14:14
a different experience.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
14:15
About getting ready to fight him? For me, getting ready to fight him, you just know you’re gonna be in for a war. You know it’s not gonna be a easy fight. Same for him. He knows when he has to fight me, and it’s like, fuck. It’s not an easy fight because he knows what I can do to him. But for me as well, I was just like, fuck. Okay. Let’s go again.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
14:30
And, again, it’s not like because Sai feel that way with certain people, but with him, it’s just a different feeling, I guess, because he beat me. That’s another thing because it and I was like, man, I gotta fucking face this demon again. Ai. Bet. Let’s face my demons, And I get myself up to fight him, but it’s it’s just getting ready to fight him. It’s just the the hurdle.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
14:47
I think maybe just because of the history. That’s why for me, I felt that way because of the history. Because to fight someone who’s beaten you multiple times, it’s like and you know you can beat them. In your heart, you just know, but, again, that’s the beauty of the story.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
14:58
Right. You had come so close a couple of times.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:01
Every time. So And then even
Speaker: Joe Rogan
15:02
in the first fight in the UFC, so close at the end of that first round, like, you had him. If there was 30 seconds left in the fight 10 or in the round.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:08
Yeah. 10 seconds left. But, again, that’s the beauty of the story because then he went until the 5th round or got to the 5th round. He’s just, like, did his fucking juju whatever thing, and then fucking he just had this energy, and he came at meh, and then my leg was compromised from the leg kick because ai my the peroneal nerve or whatever.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:26
Ai couldn’t do anything. So yeah. But, look, I love that story for myself, and I’m happy. And people still go, oh, we’re near the 3rd one. I’m like, look.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:35
I do it again. I I fucking knock him out. Well, oh, no. I can no. It’s 32. We got a best out of 7.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
15:40
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:40
I’m not fighting for anyone else. I only have so much left in this game. I’m not gonna spend this game fighting 1 guy Exactly. Over and
Speaker: Joe Rogan
15:46
over and over again.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
15:47
Ai got I I don’t know how long left, but I just know I’m definitely on the other side of my career, so I wanna get these fights out the way. And now I’m not champ anymore in the UFC, so I just get I’m in this situation where what do I do? I know I wanna fight, though, because I took 11 months off, and I let my body heal and all that, and I felt great.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
16:07
So now I wanna get back to being active. Not as active as I was in the beginning maybe, but I wanna be active, and I still feel great from the last camp. Did some testing about 3 weeks ago, ai out where we’re at. I was about where I was before this last fight, 4 weeks out. So I sai, okay. Cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
16:23
We’re still good. Let’s build off that. So, yeah, I wanna fight again.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
16:27
How much of an effect did taking 11 months off have?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
16:30
I think it was more good than bad. I know some people say ring rust or this and that, and I’m like, nah. I felt good in there. I felt good in there, and it was only when I watched the fight back I saw a couple of mistakes I made even on the feet where I was like, oh, don’t do that again just so my feet work my exits.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
16:49
Even David said you had sloppy exits. I was like, yeah. My bad. But, yeah, that and then the moment at the end when I slipped, and I just the lapse in judgment when I was just letting them know it was me tripping. Those ai moments, maybe if I was as active, it would it wouldn’t happen, but who knows? We’ll never know. But I am happy with how I performed.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
17:10
I was happy with the shape I came in. I came in really good shape. And, what’s his name? Bill. This guy, he did the numbers for me.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
17:19
He said, this is the most active I’ve been in any fight by far in my UFC career. He crunch the numbers up and said, my strike per minute rate or whatever. All you nerds figure it out. You can do your own. But, yeah, he Bill Smart.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
17:32
He’s this guy who helps in out me now with my strength. He, yeah, did the numbers and said this is the most active you were. So we can do some things different, put a little bit more gas in the tank, things like that, and then just stay active like that. It was good. And I had fun in there. I had fun just exchanging.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
17:49
Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that, like, the gas in the tank thing, because this is a there’s a philosophy that Marv Marinovich and Nick Curson, some of these guys have.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
17:58
BJ Pens coaches. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
17:59
Sai what they wanted BJ to do when BJ was in his prime, essentially, the the camp was entirely based around strength and conditioning. So it was all conditioning to give you this insane gas tank. Their philosophy is you know how to fight. You’ve been fighting your whole life.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
18:16
You’re not gonna get better at fighting in 6 weeks, but what you can get is insane cardio if you only concentrate on that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
18:24
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
18:24
And if they don’t their their thought process is that is the most important thing. That is the thing that fails you the most in fights. That’s the thing that keeps you from hitting the gas, keeps you from doing the things you wanna do, keeps you from being able to scramble out of positions.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
18:38
Keeps you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
18:38
But if you can instead of all this fight specific training, like, put that aside and just give yourself the most fucking insane gas tank humanly possible and then fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
18:50
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
18:50
And then the margins, the things the times when you’re going to need it. Like, your skill level is already elite world championship skill level. It’s not gonna deteriorate because your cardio gets better in 6 to 8 weeks.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:02
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
19:02
But what you can do is give yourself this insane base of cardio. So in those moments when you need to hit the gas, you can.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:10
Yeah. I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
19:11
And that’s what they did for BJ when BJ was at his best.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:13
Yeah. I think the best I saw BJ from watching him, especially live, he was training with them. UFC 107, I think Diego Sanchez, he looked like Yes. Demon in that fight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
19:23
Exactly. He’d unbelievable gas tank and insane confidence. Shah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:27
Like, he was fucking abs, all that. Yep. I agree. Definitely. You can always sharpen the tools. You know? Keep it shah, but, again, for when you’re in a camp, it’s just about getting fit. And, yeah, there’s some things we can tweak sai that way we can keep the output because when you get fatigued is when you lose your your your lapse in judgment.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:46
You could your reflexes as well. Things like that just start to, like, go down.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
19:50
Were you feeling fatigued in the last round with trickles?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
19:53
I didn’t I don’t think so. There was one point in the 3rd round when me and him, we really put it on, and we kinda had this, like, low key agreement, like, okay. You’re fucked. I’m fucked. Let’s chill for a little bit. And then I think around 4, I came out, like, cool. Bam. Bam. Bam. And I did that sprawl on them.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
20:12
But, again, he’s so stubborn because I sprawled on him. Like, I literally he shah. I sprawled, and my hips hit the back of his head into the mat. Ai have rocked him. I don’t know. And then, what’s his name? Mark Goddard is ai, get up, and he’s on one knee.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
20:27
And and then when he was like, get up, and he finally decided to get up saloni, and I tried to attack him. He just threw. But not to try and hit meh. He just threw just to stop my momentum, you know, stop me from coming at him. And, yeah, he’s a guy that just strong will. Strong will. Like yeah. I can respect that. Physically strong too. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
20:47
Not as strong as I thought it would be, probably because I felt strong as well. Like, I packed on some some muscle for that fight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
20:53
Preparing for those ai of grueling exchanges?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
20:55
Yeah. But even just for me ai, I just wanted to feel strong. So, me and my boy AB, we, yeah, put on some muscle for that fight and then having Matt actually making good food for me for the first time ever because I got this far off just whatever I wanted to eat. You know? Uber Eats.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
21:11
Yeah. We were talking about that when we went to Terry Black’s barbecue today.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
21:15
Yeah. This is
Speaker: Joe Rogan
21:15
the worst thing to eat right before a podcast. You’re like, oh.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
21:18
So I got the coffee now. I’m like, yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
21:19
Let’s go. Out. We’re now out.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
21:21
Sana, honestly, for me, having those kinda because I’m not 23 anymore and 24.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
21:27
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
21:27
My body doesn’t metabolize food and, you know, the way it used to, so I have to I have to think about it in, like, Israel, be smart. Understand your body’s getting older. No. I don’t feel older. That’s the thing. When I was younger, I thought 34. I’m done with this game.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
21:46
Then I’m like, I’m old, but that was when I was 24. But now that I’m here, I’m like, I could still squeeze a lot out of this. I could still squeeze a lot out of this. So we are and the whole thing ever use a hyperbaric chamber? Nah. Not yet.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
22:00
We don’t I don’t know if we have that in Ai, but we do.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
22:03
I did a a whole series when I first moved to Austin. I did the whole series because there’s this protocol. I think, it was an Israeli study that they did where they shah that it lengthens telomeres. You do, like, 60 sessions over 90 days and, you know, when they measure your biological age by the length of your telomeres, it puts 20 years on you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
22:24
Ai, it it decreases your age of your telomeres.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
22:27
Is telomeres like the d DNA strand or something?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
22:30
It’s a, well, it’s yeah. What what ex I don’t wanna fuck this up. So what exactly are telomeres?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
22:35
Layman terms.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
22:36
The way you measure someone’s biological age is the length of the telomeres. And through things like NMN Yeah. That thing. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
22:44
Ai got it right. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
22:45
There it is. Telomeres are protein and DNA structures at the ends of the chromosomes that perform several important functions including protecting DNA, promote preserving chromosomal integrity. Telomeres help help maintain the structure integrity of DNA during replication.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:01
Just the bit at the ends. Right? Mhmm. Yeah. And as
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:03
you get older, they get shorter. Smaller. Yeah. And they get weaker and, you know, so that’s
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:06
where Ai know this. I think it’s just a real I saw somewhere.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:09
NAD shah. When people get NAD, infusions, that helps that as well.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:13
I’ve been seeing that lately. Yeah. Like, Bieber, the Kardashians getting them.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:17
I get those. Yeah? Yeah. But with With, Briggs?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:21
You
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:21
can do it definitely do it with Brigham. Okay. I I use another company.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:24
I see. I see. There’s a
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:25
lot of companies that do it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:26
Okay. You Is it Ai approved or is it one of them? Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:30
Shah approved. Do you know Oh, well, I’ll see
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:31
you later on Briggs.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:32
Yeah. The but the the thing that does it just as well, maybe even better, is hyperbaric chambers. And so hyperbaric chambers, you elevate it up to 2, 2, it’s ai 2 atmospheres, so to twice our atmosphere, and then you have oxygen. You wear ai oxygen mask, and you sit in it for an hour and a half. Okay.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:51
And,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:52
dude, you come out of that and you’re just ai, whoo. Like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
23:56
Like, everything just Everyday for 6 years.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
23:58
I’ve been doing it a lot lately
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:00
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:00
Because I got one at the house, so I’ve been doing it quite a bit. Mhmm. But it’s, just a completely different way of recovering. I know I I found out about it for recovery when Uriah Faber fought Jose Aldo.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:12
The leg?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:12
Yes. His leg was fucking brutalized. I remember. I saw Uriah was Uriah was always ahead of the game, and he was using hyperbaric chambers to help him recover.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:22
And
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:22
so then I started looking into it, and then I found out about this Israeli study, and then I started seeing all the different ways that hyperbaric chambers can increase your recovery. And, you know, TJ Shah did a lot of that as well, I think. Mhmm. But it it makes a a big impact.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:36
They always do it, like, when you go down to CPI in Mexico when they do stem cells. They give people hyperbaric chamber treatments as well. Okay.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:44
I’d have to look into that. So if I wanted to do it, I’d maybe do a sai, like, what twice a week or something or once a week just
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:49
sai Something like that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:50
And how how long does the effect last for?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:53
That’s a good question.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
24:54
Yeah. I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
24:55
mean, it probably depends on the individual, but it just makes well, ai I have something wrong with me, I get in there, I just feel just better.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:02
I meh you someone knows if they have one in Auckland now, they’ll definitely hit me up and be like, hey.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:06
I bet they do.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:08
Yeah. Yeah. I’d like to try that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:09
Yeah. I bet Auckland has it. It’s time consuming. You know, the whole experience is 30 minutes because it has to get up to pressure, then it has to decompress,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:16
and
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:16
you’re in there for 90 minutes.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:18
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:18
So it’s ai 15 minutes getting up to pressure and then 15 minutes of decompressing at the very end.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:23
Okay. Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:24
But, that’s that’s a great way to recover as well. And there’s I feel like every especially as you get older, every edge you can meh, sauna, cold plunge, hyperbaric, everything. Every edge you can get.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:37
Ai. Yep. Yep. That’s where I’m at now. That’s where I was this last camp, and I feel like even the one before that and the one before that, I just remember thinking, like, how can I it was actually Yujin ai said, how can you make this camp better? And I’ll always find something to do to make this camp better, the next one. So that’s, like, the last three camps.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
25:54
So this one, I took it with the whole having breakfast, having the chef help me actually.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
25:59
That was crazy that you used to train with no breakfast. That’s so crazy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
26:02
So that was my way, I guess. Then I found out about intermittent fasting, and I realized, oh, I’ve been doing that shit for years. Right. I was just doing it by, I guess, laziness or accident, but it actually helps though, like, wake up, have 2 eggs, or maybe he’ll he’ll make sometimes, like, something with chia seed, but, normally, eggs and a bacon piece or something.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
26:21
And then
Speaker: Joe Rogan
26:22
She needs something.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
26:23
Yeah. Something just to get some fuel. Yeah. Yeah. And even Jordy, from ai dietitian, he he told me, yeah, you should definitely be having breakfast because he thought, like, you’re crazy training the way you do train, and so ai morning sessions as well will be grueling, and then I’ll go have breakfast.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
26:37
But I enjoyed it that way because I felt like more one thing is when I fight fight day, my body doesn’t wanna eat. He’ll make me, like, a nice plate of something delicious, and my body is just like, nah. Every so fight day, I still try and eat something, maybe at least an egg because you’ll have pancakes, eggs, whatever, bacon, an egg, and a little bit of bacon, but my body just doesn’t wanna eat because it’s just But you
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:01
think if you force yourself to eat, that would be a good thing? Nah. No? So I
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:04
just yeah. I think DC said the same thing as well one time. He said he likes to fight hungry sai that way he gets that edge, and I feel that way when it’s fight day. But when it comes to training now, I definitely like to have breakfast. I like the way it feels. I can like, now I’ve done it for a few months.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:18
I understand the the benefits of a of a healthy breakfast before you have a groaning training session. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:23
It just gives you more gas.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:24
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:25
Aljo said that when he fought Petr Yan that he didn’t eat.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:28
1st or second one? 1st. Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:30
And he said he fell like shit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:31
Oh, the the day of the ai?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:32
Yeah. Oh, wow. He said, you know, I think the time of the fight got pushed back. I forget exactly what the reasoning was or he just forgot to eat or he just wasn’t feeling it because of the anxiety, fighting for the title, you know, the whole deal. Mhmm. And he just ai, you know, the whole deal. Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:44
And he just felt it in
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:45
the fight. It just was where and especially with a guy like
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:45
Aljo who cuts so much weight. Yeah. You know, Aljo is so Ai, boy. Meh was so
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:52
big
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:54
for 35.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
27:55
Yeah. I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
27:56
remember running into him. He was, like, a £176. I was, like, what the fuck? How are you gonna make 135? He’s so big.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:01
He looks good at 145 at US 300. He’d yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:04
I liked
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:04
it for him.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:05
I was bummed out that that Mozvar Yves Lueb fight fell out because It
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:09
must be this weekend. Right?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:11
Yeah. That’s a very Ai Aljo is strong at 145.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:15
Why did that fight fall out? What happened? Aljo got injured. Oh, so insane.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:19
He got injured and he thought he’d be able to work through it but couldn’t.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:22
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:22
And there’s, you know, there’s a point of diminishing returns with these weight cutting dudes
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:26
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:26
Which and I think, you know
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:28
There’ll be something, like, they’ve got the whole thing, one with the hydration clause. But the thing is, no matter what, people always gonna try and find a way.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:36
Yeah. They was
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:36
gonna try ai find a way to sneak past the hydration test or something that they could use to pass it, but I don’t know how that works. I don’t know how they test for it. It’s never happened to meh, but weight cutting, even when I started, fighting, people used to tell me go down to, what, 170 for you guys.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:51
Oh my god.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:52
Hell no.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
28:52
How the fuck can you make 170?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
28:54
Back when I was skinny, before, like, I got really brolic, I was maybe I could make maybe 80 KGs. That’s close to 170. Because 170 is 77 KGs, but lowest I ever got to was 80 as a as a kickboxer. That was it. Yeah. 170, I’d die. I’d I wouldn’t even because I’ve seen some of these wake ups with, like, ai
Speaker: Joe Rogan
29:13
Like Ai?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
29:14
Oh, bro.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
29:14
Like when Hamza would make 170. Ai. Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
29:17
You see her? When she was in in the bath in the tub crying and speaking, and Olivera, when they go, and they huddle around them, it’s sai when you when you cut weight, though, I’ll say this thing. For me, when I cut weight, it’s a spiritual experience sometimes. It’s a weird experience because I’ve not just meh, I’ve seen fighters who have not get delirious, but start saying things that you wouldn’t they wouldn’t normally sai, not even in a bad way, but just the way they talk.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
29:44
Because you’re close to death. Yeah. You see the light. Yeah, man. That’s like you really are close to death. Yeah. I mean, it sounds ridiculous to say vatsal. And for someone who doesn’t understand what fighters are going through, you go, oh, you’re being hyperbolic, but not really. Not really. You really are close to death.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
30:00
If you keep going for a few more hours, you’ll die.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
30:01
Yeah. Especially the I mean, I like, I’ve seen ai weight cuts are normally pretty tame, not as bad ai I think I’m perfect for 185. But the ones that I’ve seen guys lose a lot of weight the day off, and I see them how they arya. And even when they go to the scale, you see their face just
Speaker: Joe Rogan
30:19
Yeah. You never look too
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
30:20
just destroyed. No. I always come in underweight as well. I always come in What
Speaker: Joe Rogan
30:23
do you normally weigh, like, the week of a fight?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
30:26
Week of a ai? If I get to the fight location, say, if they win the weigh meh, if I’m, say, 198 Oh, that’s not bad. Yeah. Then that’s easy for me. I’m like, cool. That’s normally what I’m at.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
30:42
That’s just a few hard sauna sessions.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
30:44
Yeah. Ai if not just the water loading, and then it’s ai, my body knows. It’s weird how my body does it. Hey. My body is just ai it just knows. Okay. We’re getting on the plane. You’ve
Speaker: Joe Rogan
30:53
done it before.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
30:54
It just knows. It’s just, like, muscle meh. Ai I get to the fight location. My body is, like, cool. We’re doing this. And then the weight just starts to go
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:02
Did you notice a difference when they didn’t allow IVs versus when they did allow IVs? I never
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:07
used it.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:08
You never used it?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:08
I never used IVs. That’s the thing. So
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:10
So you never cut weight enough where you were so depleted that you needed to get those bags
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:14
in you? Ai. I would like to.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:17
They sai that’s the best way to rehydrate the brain.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:20
Yeah. Because it takes how many hours if you do it orally?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:23
It takes a long time.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:24
Yeah. It’s a twitchy brain, and that’s the
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:26
Affects your chin.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:27
You’re trying to protect as your fucking Mhmm. Ai slushing around in your brain. Yeah. Because, wait, what’s cerebral fluid? It’s made of it’s it’s well, I’m guessing a lot of water. Right?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:37
There’s a lot of water in there. Yeah. Yeah. And the the rehydration of the brain apparently is the slowest because the blood brain barrier
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:43
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:43
That’s the slowest, you know, your your bodies, your muscles rehydrate fairly quickly.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:48
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
31:49
But still, it just never makes sense to me that a person is, like, literally on the verge of death 24 hours for a cage fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
31:56
Let’s go battle to the death, and then you get head kicked in the fucking chin and yeah. I don’t I mean, look. I do love this game, and I think weight cuts is always gonna be a part of it right now, but who knows? Like, because even though we have height differentials, like, how are we gonna start discriminating against that? Like, okay. We only have ai classes. Is that the next No.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
32:16
That doesn’t make any sense because you got guys like DC that, you know, even though he was not even barely 6 feet tyler,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
32:22
he was a
Speaker: Joe Rogan
32:22
heavyweight champion but he’s
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
32:23
a tank. Yeah. And he’s the wrestling skills. I think
Speaker: Joe Rogan
32:23
that the way to do it really is to have more weight classes. I think when you have the big gaps like 85 to 205 is £20. That’s crazy. That’s such a big ass gap. And then, you know, 205, if you wanna start fighting heavyweight and then you’re dealing with guys like Francis who’s a natural 265, that’s such a gap.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
32:47
They should have the ones in between. Okay. Let me take it. £10. 165, 170, 175, ai, like that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
32:55
They could do that, but I think that’s maybe a little too much. I think £10. Yeah. £10 is reasonable.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:00
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:00
All the way up to ai, ai, 45, 65, 65, 85, 95, 205, and then maybe 225, and then heavyweight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:09
Super heavyweight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:10
Yeah. You have more chance the the whole thing of 265 being a limit for heavyweight to me is crazy
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:14
too. Because there’s bigger boys out there. Right. Why can’t use to cut down to 265? Yeah. You know? Crazy. Even Francis did as well. Yeah. If they did, I mean, they can just I think they talked about doing it. They talked about doing it recently. Maybe last year, I think. They talked about adding more weight classes, but then I never heard anything about it yet.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:34
Was flirting with it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:35
Okay. Maybe that’s what I saw.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:36
They they should have it everywhere. There’s too many too many gaps. They’re too wide. Like, there’s too many tweeners.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:41
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:42
You know, too many guys that are too small to fight at 170, but Yeah. They really can’t make 55 healthy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:48
At least they took this shit out.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
33:49
Yeah. It took finally. Yeah. Finally.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
33:53
Well, who look. I’ve always thought that that’s ai a group chat, like, decision. Just say, yo. This is a dumb rule. Let’s take it out. Boom. But why does it take so long? Is it because the commission all over the United States or whatever have to get together or something? I don’t know.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
34:08
I don’t understand how ai take that seems like a a common sense rule, and especially anybody who understands the power of elbows. Ai, this is not the most powerful elbow. No. It’s just not. And so to to deny that and to say that somehow or another that can’t be blocked, well, that’s crazy. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
34:24
You could do that just as easy as you could do that. Yeah. You could block that elbow.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
34:28
Facts.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
34:29
Yeah. It doesn’t none of it makes any sense. There’s a bunch of things that are unrealistic in my opinion. One of them is, not being able to up kick from a downward position when a guy’s on top of you. Sai if a guy’s on top of you and you’re on your back Yeah. And the guy has a knee down, you can’t upkick.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
34:45
That’s Oh, yeah. That’s silly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get
Speaker: Joe Rogan
34:47
what you mean. That’s silly. That doesn’t make any sense. I think you should be able to upkick when you are flat on your back and he’s on his knees. Yeah. You should because that’s a real
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
34:54
technique. If you have rubber guard, like, a flexible hips or whatever, you can just bring your leg and boom. Yeah. Anderson did that to someone. Who do you do that to? Was it no. What’s his name? Yoshino Kami, I think. Yoshino Kami. He did? Yeah. He got disqualified and not in the UFC.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
35:10
Oh, he didn’t rumble in the sana.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
35:12
Rumble, the yellow cage. Mhmm. Yeah. So that that was a good knockout. Mhmm. But then they Right. They disqualified ai. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
35:18
Yeah. That technique, like, if you are in a guy’s guard and that guy can elbow you in the face, punch you in the face, why can’t he kick you in the face? He should be able to lean back and up kick you, and it would make the guard way more effective. Dangerous. It’s also more real here it is.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
35:33
This one. Yeah. Boom.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
35:35
Boom. Oh, shot. That’s a beautiful knockout. That should be 100% legal. Look at the hip dexterity.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
35:41
Yeah. Look at it ai the way he just brought that back. Boom. Oh, that’s a kick. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
35:46
Like an axe kick from the outside. For, like, a real fight should be allowed. Yeah. It’s not like you’re cemented in this position. No. Like, the idea of, like, not allowing soccer kicks to a downed opponent. Yeah. Ai I think about that is the cage. I think if you’re pressed up against a cage sana someone could stomp you or soccer kick you, there’s no way to move.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:15
Yeah. True. But if
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:16
you’re in an open space and there’s a place to move, all those things should be legal because all those things are real techniques.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:22
Facts.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:22
But especially if a guy’s on top of you, if a guy’s on top of you on his knees in your guard and you could get a leg back and stomp him in the face, that’s good. Yeah. That’s a real technique
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:33
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:33
That should be 100% legal.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:35
The one I like, soccer kicks, is just it just looks cool. But, again, if you have someone pinned against the cage and then even kneeing them, and was it one they go,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:44
okay. Yes.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:45
Yeah. They They allow it. Yeah. I don’t even know what the what the discretion of the referee is to allow it.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:51
If they’re pinned against the cage.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
36:52
That he doesn’t allow it. Exactly. Okay. Which makes me open ai. Open space. Sana kicks go.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
36:58
Did you ever see the one where Roger Huerta fought in 1 and got the one of the worst soccer kick KOs ever?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:04
Maybe, bud. Some forgot ai.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:05
Some big Brazilian cat, and this dude’s soccer kicked him, and he was ai, oh my god.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:09
Like, in the open space? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:12
He had him rocked already.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:13
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:13
And then he’s down like this, and this dude just
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:16
I think the thing as well is the is the the look of it for, I guess, the people who aren’t really hardcore fans. If they see that, they’re like, oh, and then it goes back to human cockfighting. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:26
Okay. But if that’s true, how about Iranian Sana? When she fought at the sphere, her whole face is cut open.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:32
Oh, that was crazy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:33
Insane. They didn’t stop the fight
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:35
at a port Tough though.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:37
So tough. Yeah. But so here’s the Roger Huerta one. Sai Roger’s hurt, and Roger shouldn’t have been fighting at 170 anyway, and watch this. Oh, no. Boom.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:46
Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:47
I mean, that one I
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:48
have seen this. Yep. Bro, that one can
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:51
fucking kill you. Damn. That one can kill you. I mean, that dude had everything in that kick.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:55
Yeah. He even held it for a little bit ai he didn’t line it up.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
37:58
Just really line it up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
37:59
Full fucking goal.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:00
Oh. Yeah. That’s a rough one.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:02
That is bad. That is bad.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:03
That’s a rough one. But that’s a real technique.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:06
Legal.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:06
Yeah. I mean, it’s You
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:07
do it in real ai. Yes.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:08
Yeah. That’s the point. It’s the sport of fighting. Mhmm. And if it’s a sport of fighting and you can’t upkick a guy when you’re in your guard because his knees on the ground, that’s ridiculous.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:17
Yeah. Even the one you you’ve actually was it maybe you at the sphere you mentioned it with the morav ai? They stood them up somewhere at the end, and I was thinking like, yeah. Why they stand them up?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:27
Made no sense.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:28
Yeah. You know, is that it was shah. Ai think so. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:31
Herb was alluding to they want more action.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:36
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:37
I don’t know if he’s getting pressure from someone to have more action, but one of the things that Herb said was if someone wants it I think he was alluding to, like, some specific officials and executives, whoever. He’s ai, if they wanted to look different, I wish they would tell me because, like,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
38:54
this Herb’s saying this to you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
38:56
No. No. No. Not to me. He said it in an interview when he was being criticized for trying to get people to work and trying to stand people up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:03
So let me get this straight. He’s saying maybe some officials or someone would be alluding
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:07
He’s alluding to the fact that they want it to look a specific way.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:11
Ah, I think that pick up what you’re putting down.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:14
You see if you can find his statement on it because it was interesting the way he phrased it. The way he phrased it
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:20
Like cryptic? Yes. Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:22
You know, it was
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:23
He’s he’s trying not to put someone under the bus, but he’s saying, like, look, maybe someone’s saying to him that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:29
Ai I think they are because he’s he’s always, like, let’s work. Let’s work. Sometimes when it doesn’t even make any sense, like, they’re working.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:35
Like I know. I saw I meh, and I was, like, yeah. He’s he’s on top. He just got him down. He’s actually trying to, you know, beat him up.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:41
Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
39:41
You know, Sean was defending well, but still saying, true. That’d be interesting, though. That would that’s that’s when I say interesting, that’s, like, shady. Mhmm. Yeah. It’s shady. Shady.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
39:54
But it’s what we’re talking about at at lunch today too is that there’s certain fighters they want to win because those fighters are more exciting.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:01
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
40:02
And I’m a purist. I feel like there should be no stand ups. Unless it is a ai, unless someone does something illegal, there should be no stand ups. I think if if a guy could take you down ai Marab does and just beat you up and you can’t do shah, and even if the audience is booing, that’s the fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:17
Oh, shit.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
40:17
Yeah. Speak wants to get up. He’s gotta get up. I don’t think it should be you can just hold him on in your full guard and the referee just stands you up. Because that’s such an advantage for the striker.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:26
Yeah. Oh, big time.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
40:26
To be standing up again. And you already have an advantage of every round start standing up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:31
Yeah. And then you work so hard to get something to the ground and then they go, okay. Stand up.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
40:34
Yeah. I’m trying
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:35
to think, have I ever been in the position that they made me stand up? Shah. Not on top. But even on the bottom, I always get up. I find a way. That’s that’s the ego thing because, again, look, I had to kill that to to really be great at this game because I knew for a fact Ai couldn’t beat some nerds in pajamas.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
40:55
So that was that was for me ai, okay, humble yourself and learn how to grapple. And then I sucked at first sana I got better. I never have shown too much of my grappling skills because they never really put me in a position to to show as much as I need to. So for me, Ai just like, cool. I’ll just fucking do a Derrick Lewis. Stand up, get up, and just beat him up as much as I can. But yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
41:17
Fuck. That is that is speak, though. If someone is I actually wanna watch that. I’ll watch it later on in there.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
41:22
Let’s see what the statement is. Did you find it?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
41:24
I so far, I’ve only found that, like, Luke Thomas made a video, and he said Herb called him after he made the video.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
41:30
Interesting. Luke
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
41:30
Thomas. Who’s that again?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
41:32
Luke Thomas, the the journalist?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
41:34
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
41:34
MMA journalist?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
41:35
He’s they spoke for a 3rd I’m like, I’m reading the closed captioning because I can’t listen to it. He said those instances yeah. I’ll just play this, I guess. This might be it. I don’t know if you saw her Oh, Luke. Oh, my bad.
Speaker: 2
41:45
Of Herb. Ultimately, his appear but not limited to those instances where he had called for more work from Murab. What I cannot do today is speak on behalf of Herb. Ultimately, his opinions and beliefs are his own, and they are his to tell whenever he elects to do so. What I can do is speak on behalf of my views.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
42:05
No Yeah. I’m just trying to not be what it was.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
42:07
That’s not it. There was there was an article where they had interviewed him and statement from himself. There’s a statement from Herb himself, and he was saying, if someone wants the fights to look different, I wish they would tell me. Damn. That’s suspect.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
42:20
Yes. That’s a very Is that it? Alright. That’s a way that the way again, that’s cryptic.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
42:24
Cryptic. Yeah. That means they’re they’re they’re telling you Ai want more action. Okay. Here it goes. I’ve seen on social media, people have spoken about me call, calling the fighters for more action. That’s what I’ve always done. I can tell you what I tell fighters during the the rules briefing. I tell them anytime I’m gonna interfere or any intervention, I’m going to talk to you first.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
42:44
Like, if I’m going to stand you up, what I’m gonna say first is I’m gonna sai, let’s work. I usually clap at what I’m expecting, from him is not busy if what I’m and what I’m expecting from him is not busy work, I specify I’m looking for effort to finish the fight. So either you posture to where you could set up ai any attacks or advance your position, effort to advance because it’s not as easy as just passing the guard, but effort to pass, effort to advance your position, effort to bring the fight to finish.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
43:13
That rule was put in place, standing fighters up to make our sport look the way we want it to look, but he said something else. Yeah. There was more
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
43:22
if he goes as a referee, blah blah blah blah. But, I mean, if that’s what he sai, I I I trust your, you know, your your recollection of it, but that’s what he said. That’s still very suspect in that. You don’t wanna get this this game. This is one thing about the UFC sai real as it gets or MMA itself.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
43:37
This is what it is. But if if you have that happening, then that’s starting to seem a little bit ai, you know, not to take away, like, it’s the WWE or anything.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
43:48
It’s not that, but you are influencing the course of a fight where a guy has control and where a fighter And
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
43:54
the referee is the guy officiating the fight. So if he’s getting word from someone
Speaker: Joe Rogan
43:58
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
43:58
The way he said that, someone. That’s yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
44:01
Ai think he was saying if someone wants me to if they want the fight to look different, I wish they would tell me.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
44:06
But that’s what I’m saying. When he say someone, it’s like, who is he? Who’s that someone?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
44:09
I don’t think the referee’s job is to instruct a fighter to do anything other than follow the rules. And if you can hold a guy down, I feel I’m the worst with this because I think you should start in the same position you ended the last round because I think it’s one fight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
44:24
Oh. I think it’s one fight. It’s not 5 fights. So if a an advantage for the striker is always standing up. So if a guy gets you down and has your back and the round ends, I think he should have the exact same position in the exact same place on the octagon floor when the next round starts because he earned that position, and you didn’t earn the stand up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
44:43
Sai
Speaker: Joe Rogan
44:43
if you’re standing up, standing up for a guy like you is a giant advantage.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
44:47
Yeah. I’m like, I’m biased. I would be like, oh, fuck that. Let’s do that. Of course.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
44:50
Well, also the audience would be the audience would be like, shut the fuck up, bro.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
44:54
You know, you fucking pussy. It does it does make sense, like, when it comes to pure fighting because even, bro, even what Ai had 10 minute rounds the first round. Mhmm. You know, that’s cool. I’m saying look. Some things, like, I’m glad this they’ve taken out the way, but, again, bring back tournaments just for 1 night.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:13
Let’s see who’s a real like, who’s a real badass?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
45:15
Ai, yeah. That would be crazy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:16
I’ve done it kickboxing. I’ve never done it in MMA. I’ve done it in boxing. But I might bring back a tournament. So, like, let’s see who’s really who’s really about this because we have to fight, get the adrenaline dump, then you go back and sit down sit down for ages, and then eventually have to warm up again.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:30
I meh I’ve done it a few times. I’ve won a few of them, but it’s it’s it it shows this
Speaker: Joe Rogan
45:37
Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:37
Like this. You know what I mean?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
45:39
It’s also built in drama over the evening where people watch a guy fight once, and now he’s gonna fight a second tyler, and that was always wild about the early days of the UFC Yeah. Watching those tournaments.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:49
And pride as well. Mhmm. Did that a lot. But, yeah, that’d be fun. I think it’d be for, like, oh, they did it once, though.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
45:56
Glory did it. Remember last man standing? That was great.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
45:59
And I’ve been fighting for years. He did it. The the the UFC did it once with the flyweight, the inaugural flyweight title, and I think it was Ai Mouse and Ian McCall in the in in the final. No. No. I got it wrong. They fucked up the decision because if there was meant to be a draw and they’d have one more round in Sydney, I think.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:18
Yeah. And then they were meant to, but then they gave, they fucked up the decision. Because but that would be crazy though. They go, okay. Cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:25
The judges have it this, that. It’s a draw. We’re going one more round. After a crazy fight like that, that woulda had the whole place to school.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
46:32
Well, that’s what glory does. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:34
One more round. I see.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
46:36
And you see the look in the guy’s face like, oh.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:37
Oh, shit. Yeah. I’ve had that too, but that’s where this comes in. Meh. Yeah. You have to just, like, cool. Let’s go. Get back in the corner. That’s
Speaker: Joe Rogan
46:46
is that one of the most difficult things to, like, change your mindset in mid ai, like, if something throws you off?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:52
Mid fight. Oh.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
46:53
Did you do you remember with the what I’m bringing up specifically is, do you remember Tim Kennedy and Yoel Romero?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
46:59
When get up. Get up. Yes. Yeah. Sai Tim Kennedy
Speaker: Joe Rogan
47:02
Yeah. Tim Kennedy had Yoel Romero Fucked up. Fucked up. And then they put Yoel on the stool. They threw ice on the floor. They fucking and he kept sitting on the stool. And Big John’s telling him to stand up, and he’s still sitting down. And Tim Kennedy’s walking around going, what the fuck? This fight should be stopped. The fight’s over. Yeah. Yeah. The fight should have been stopped. Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
47:21
But then Yoel got up, and then he stopped him afterwards. But he ai, like, a good solid 35 seconds extra recovery ai, which when you’re hurt is
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
47:31
huge. Yeah. Eyes on the floor as well.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
47:33
Tim said it fucked with his head, and it it was his mental weakness that he didn’t he thought he was angry. They’re robbing me. This is bullshit. I had him. I should’ve won. The fight should’ve been we the the round arya. The minute was up. It should’ve been I could’ve got on him, and I could’ve finished him. And so in his head, he lost focus.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
47:52
It does happen. Like I said, even with me pointing at the ground in that moment, any small lapse in judgment, you you just need 30 minutes or 25 minutes of focus. So in that point, yeah, I can see how that would get to him. Yeah. That would get to him because you’re like, what the fuck?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:06
They’re about to screw me out of
Speaker: Joe Rogan
48:08
this for. And they did. And so then he’s gotta fight again. Why he’s going motherfucker. This shah already been over. So instead of concentrating completely on being in the present in the fight, you think that got fucked.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:18
Anderson versus Bisping when Anderson thought he won or was on the case celebrating. Right. And then if I think it was Herb or whoever, ai, yo, get get down here. This and that. Ai. Right. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:27
But you could have been
Speaker: Joe Rogan
48:28
over if Anderson just followed up with 1 or 2 more shah. That would have been it. It’s like when you’re talking about Bryden Turner and Renato Marcano. He drops him, has him fucked up, and then walks away like it’s sai k o.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:38
I literally went, like because I was front I went to 300. I’m such a fan. I was there from first fight. That’s why I like to wear that as a badge on. I’m like, yeah. I was there, and I watched vatsal, and I was just like, why? He had 8 more seconds. He could’ve just done something and taken him out.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:54
Nada was
Speaker: Joe Rogan
48:54
fucked up too. He was very bad. Yeah. But And Jaylen can crack.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
48:59
It’s tough.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
48:59
Oh, he’s so big for ai, so long. I think
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
49:02
he’s also really talented as well. He’s fast. Mhmm. He’s, smooth. Like, when he fought Dan, Ai do you you heard that shit? Yes. Ai, that kick when I heard that and Dan grabbed his waist, and then Dan had his neck at the end of the round as well, I lost my voice in that. That’s the
Speaker: Joe Rogan
49:18
one where Dan broke his arm. Right?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
49:19
Yeah. Just a scratch. Ai a savage.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
49:22
Trust me. I love watching him come back into the top ai now. I love it. I love that he did that. I love it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
49:28
I love who he is as a person because, look, Dan, he’s I see him every day most days and he’s a guy that you don’t know what to speak. Like, Sai don’t know where boom. He just customized himself with all these tattoos. Yeah. Crazy. That’s badass.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
49:43
Yeah. He just covered himself.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
49:45
I think he’s in Spain because do you know Oscar you know Oscar Willis, the, Meh life reporter. He’s fighting bare knuckle this weekend, I believe, or maybe next weekend in Spain, but Dan’s gonna go there and corner him. I’m like, fucking
Speaker: Joe Rogan
49:58
Bare knuckle boxing or MMA? No.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
50:00
Boxing. Mhmm. That’s not for me. I can fight look, if I had to get to a fight, whatever, sure. But, like, for me, I’d rather not. I’ll pass on that, but that’s the kind of shit that Dan loves. Dan’s ai, yeah, let’s do that shit. He wants to do that shit. He wants to be, like yeah. He he just loves fighting.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
50:18
Masvidal’s got that whole MMA league where it’s all bare knuckle MMA, which I like. Because that it doesn’t make sense to me that you don’t cover your shins or your knees or your elbows, but you do cover your knuckles.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
50:27
I just don’t like the knuckles because you sai, again, the moose knuckles still there. This can cause more damage, ai like cuts. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ai you open. Exactly.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
50:38
Guys get sliced up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
50:40
So if I if gloves, I I guess they protect they’re really, ai, I don’t the new gloves as well. I think I’ve only fought once in the new gloves now. I might give it a, maybe 1 or 2 more, but I’m like, the old gloves just they didn’t really protect the wraps protect your hands, but the old gloves, it felt like rubber, like tire rubber, and I think they were just dangerous, ai, dangerous to hit with.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:05
If you hit someone with those, it’s like bang. These new gloves, they feel like a little bit of, a memory foam.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:12
A little softer?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:13
Softer. And I don’t know about this whole curve thing. They don’t really curve. I can still do that and then Ai try not to do that. I’m a, you know, whatever, but still, this, I’ll I’ll wait and see. See
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:23
Bro, listen, man. The best gloves for sure are Trevor Wittman’s.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:28
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:28
The best gloves. He made the best gloves. They’re the best MMA gloves involved. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:32
I’ve I’ve got See if we can pull them up. The Onyx? Is that the Onyx one? Yeah. I’ve I’ve got the big ones, but I’ve never ever had
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:38
best MMA gloves. Yeah. They curve. So it’s curved, so your hand is in this position.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:43
So if
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:43
you wanna do this, you have to open them up. But it’s still you could do that for grappling. It’s all the same. Mhmm. But they’re in a curved position, and I think that would avoid so many eye pokes.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:52
So many eye pokes. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
51:53
You haven’t really been eye poked too many tyler.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
51:56
Nah. Only time was in training. Really bad one was in training, but not not not in a fight. Nah. Avoid that as much as I can.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:04
I have another thought on that. Tell me what you think of this. I feel like they should cover the fingers. I feel like why the with like a mitt?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:10
Oh, I feel like It
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:10
goes over the top with like a round surface.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:12
Like ai little something soft. Look at
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:14
those little bag glove mitts. Like that’s Trevor Whitman’s.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:17
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:18
That’s the Onyx gloves. Those those are the best gloves. Wittman’s a fucking genius, man. He makes incredible gear.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:24
Has he ever brought this idea to the New York City?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:26
Yeah. They were in negotiation, but I think Trevor went crazy and wanted, like, some ungodly amount of money. He wanted something according to Dana, at least that’s his version of him.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:35
Okay. 2 ai trainers.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:37
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he but regardless of all that, he makes the best gloves. They’re the best MMA gloves of all time by bar bar none.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:46
Yeah. They’re the best big ones, Roger. I’ll hit them up, see if I can get those ones just to try them out.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
52:50
It’s also the best foam. Like, he uses the most high-tech foams, the most expensive foam, ai, every and he makes them all by hand. Like, Trevor
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
52:58
Stitch I’ve seen him. Yeah. I’ve seen him Stitch in it. He’s he’s he’s passionate about it. But, yeah, these new ones, so far at fighting with them, I still prefer the the old ones.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:08
You think they’re more damaging?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:09
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:13
Yeah. Ai I get it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:15
I Ai don’t like to get hit, so maybe that’s why I’m biased with it. But when I hit someone with those, I feel it causes more damage. Mhmm. And Ai I mean, I can’t cause damage. Ai cause some damage on DDP with those ones, but I still wanna try them maybe one more time just to feel feel them. But yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:30
It felt different.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:30
Yeah. Felt different. You can I can definitely tell? Even the ram, when I put when I was, squeezing my wraps into them, I was, okay. Just took a while, but it still got in, but I’m like, alright. Cool. Grab. I like to test the grip strength to make sure I can hold someone, but yeah. We’ll see.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:47
I don’t know why the fingers have to be exposed because you never do this.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:51
There’s no Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:52
There’s no reason to have the fingers ever in this position. Every time you grip, you’re gripping like this.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:57
That. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
53:58
Or you’re gripping like this.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
53:59
Also, it would prevent joint manipulation. Yeah. Yeah. Small joint manipulation. If you had like, it’s almost like a webbing
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:05
Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:06
That just covers that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:07
Why can’t you just have a thin piece of leather that goes over the fingers and then something that’s curved around the top?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:13
Like you said, like those bag mitts with the thumbnail.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:15
Yes. So even if you do get poked in the eye, you’re getting poked by a large thing
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:20
instead of a finger. Yeah. It goes
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:22
all the way into your and fingernails.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:24
Yeah. You
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:24
know, so the nails would be covered, which is even if you trim your fucking nails, that’s still a hard surface that could scratch the shit out of your cornea.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:31
Then you got toes. I’ve seen people get kicked in the eye even on training. Oh, man. And infected the eye as well.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:36
Oh, yeah, man.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:37
Yeah. I’ve seen that. Toenails. But, no, I mean, that makes sense. Sai Ai mean, it just I think people are scared of change. Right. Even with these new gloves, it’s I think it’s maybe that’s ai I’m trying to be, like, let me give it one more shot. I’m not a I’m not gonna say I’m against them.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:51
Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:51
I just feel, the other gloves were just they had that thing on them.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
54:57
Well, Ai went to John, you know, he lost an eye.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
54:59
Oh, that’s why he wears the shades.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
55:01
Exactly. Yeah. He did it. Pads from somebody. So he was holding pads and someone missed and caught his eye with their toenail.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:07
I did that too if if that happened to me. PTSD. Yeah. Fuck, man.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
55:11
I think, like, everybody should wear goggles if you’re holding mitts just the possibility. Just that we know that it happened to one of the top trainers in the sport. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:17
And it’s not just a freak accident because
Speaker: Joe Rogan
55:19
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:19
Even just grappling, I try and keep my nails, like, trim just because I don’t wanna I’ve done it before by accident on someone that caused I think I call it high, and then they did something and then Yeah. And I got oh, not on me, on them. It’s happened to me as well, but I felt bad when I did it on a person.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:36
I had their skin in my nails and I was like, yeah, my bad. Sai they again Yeah. Cut your nails, but still that’s not a bad idea. I would fuck with that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
55:44
I feel like it wouldn’t affect the grappling at all Yeah. And it definitely would help eye pokes, which are the biggest problem. Eye pokes are a giant problem, man. Sai many guys have gotten eye surgery now. I mean, Bilal’s had 3 eye surgeries.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:57
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
55:57
And remember when he got poked real bad? Oh, wait.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
55:59
Oh, not the Leon one. Yeah. That’s right. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. I can imagine. Yeah. You can make you can change the culture.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:05
I feel like it should be done and because I don’t think it’s bad. I don’t I don’t I don’t see any negative to cover in the fingers and I see only positives. Yeah. And I don’t think it would do it’s just real simple. Piece of leather here.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
56:16
I meh you. I get what you’re saying.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:18
Measure the fighter’s hands, you know, because some guys have very long fingers, some guys have short fingers. Measure the fighter’s hands, build a custom glove. That’s not hard to do.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
56:26
Same thing like having glove size. I’m sure someone will make it now. Oh, someone made that before?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:30
I don’t think so. Yeah. I Ai don’t know if anybody that’s made that, but that’s that should be the way they do it because that would eliminate an enormous number of That’s
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
56:38
a money making scheme right now. If someone decides to make that and then put it out there as a prototype, be like, look, this actually works. Train with them and then they go, I’m patenting that. Boom.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:45
Well, the UFC does listen to me because it’s like because
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
56:47
I have all ai
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:48
of crazy ideas. I’m like, get rid of weight cutting, add more weight classes, change the gloves. No stand ups. No stand ups.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
56:53
Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
56:55
Because also, like, I’m not interested in making the fight more exciting. Ai making I want I’m interested in what’s the best. What what actually works? I’m a purist. I wanna see what was the actual effective technique. Like, there’s some ai, like, when you see in jujitsu tournaments where guys are doing something like they’re in a 5050 position, like, this guy could punch you in the face, kick you in the face so easy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
57:17
This is not a good self defense position. Yep. And you see it in MMA
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
57:21
block stuff.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
57:22
Where guys are accustomed to doing that, and they’re they’re they’re literally face down holding onto an ankle, and the dude just boom. Boom.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
57:29
1 of my boys, Nate, Nate Law, he just fought in, his, I think, 3rd pro fight. The guy had a leg lock, and Nate posted the this quote from Cho Sana and after the fight about if a guy is holding on to your leg, just posture up and punch him in the face. Yeah. And that’s what Nate did and won the fight. So yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
57:48
I mean, the whole leg lock game, Ai I know I know some stuff with x guy and whatnot, but I don’t really fuck with it too much because I get scared because the commitment, when I hold on to someone’s leg Yeah. And then you’re just exposed. Unless I’m like a Craig Jones type who I just know
Speaker: Joe Rogan
58:01
As a wizard. Yeah. The thing about leg locks is you have so little time to react.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
58:06
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
58:06
If you don’t tap, if you there’s a such a bryden, especially ai an inside heel hook, There’s such a brief amount of time you have before your shit is just blown smithereens.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
58:15
Ai is fine. This is fine. This is fine. Pop. And it’s gone.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
58:18
Yeah. Rips apart, and then you fuck for 9 months.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
58:21
Even meh if I’m rolling with people, if I don’t trust that person or if I just feel like, I’ll just go, yeah. Cool. Tap. Because Yeah. Ego’s not worth it. I don’t try and hold on to the shit like that. Especially, like, box. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
58:31
Do you have a hard time like that with, like, people trying to get a name for themselves training with you?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
58:36
Yeah. Yeah. Sai that’s for meh. Look. It’s not even if I go to a new gym, I pick and choose who I go with, and it’s not like an ego thing because I don’t wanna get my ass up. It’s just like, I don’t know you well enough that Right. And sometimes you see people, they they they salivate, like, oh, it’s my chance. This is Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
58:53
I got my shot now. Yeah. But now ai in in in grappling with some people in the jujitsu class, they’ll just lower belts. They’ll be ai, can I I’m like, I’m good? Thank you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:03
You know what I don’t like?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:04
When I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:05
see a dude sitting out around and waiting while you’re exhausted,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:08
and then they go,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:09
do you wanna go? Like, bitch, I watched you I’ll call him out. I watched you just sit down Yeah. For 10 fucking minutes.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:15
Oh, you meh that as well too.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:16
Why didn’t you just jump in? Yeah. Why weren’t you just rolling right now? You wanna roll fresh?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:20
Yeah. Is
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:21
that what this
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:22
is? Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:22
And you, like, call them out. You see the look of it,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:24
but you’re like, go on, man. I just go, sai. I’m good. Thank you. And I’ll get someone that I actually trust because yeah. It’s not it’s just I I and I I know that feeling as well because I’m sure that someone would tap me or do something or I’ll just let go, and then it’s like that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:38
I know when it’s real and it’s general, like, good job, and Sai know the one when it’s just ai, they’re like, ai. I’m gonna tell you more about this.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
59:45
Can’t wait to get online.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
59:46
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my, here we go. But, again, that’s the thing sana talk about ego, and I had to kill that before I started training grappling because it was just I sucked. Right. Ai, no. I get taps. One thing I definitely will get is a submission in the UFC before I’m done.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:00:00
I will I will choke someone out, like a guillotine or a redneck. I like guillotines, but I’ve, it’s learning how to find the sweet spot for me, the sweet spot when I get it. And when I get it, it’s ai even a bulldog truck, I get really good at those. Some, I can find the speak, and I just because I got the frame for it. Mhmm. The best person at our gym, Dan, hang meh. That’s his shit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:00:23
He grabs your neck. You’re going, like it’s like, meh. Find a way out. You can’t. Cool. Tap.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:00:28
But, yeah, I like using guillotines, though, especially on on wrestlers because, yeah, it just lets them know, okay, this is always a threat. This is always a threat. But, again, it’s something Ai been working on, but eventually, before I retire, you’ll definitely see me get a submission.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:00:43
Well, it’s interesting because you’re a specialist, you know. You’re one of those guys that, like, you didn’t come in with a full MMA experience. You didn’t start as an amateur MMA fighter. You arya a kickboxer. And so you I remember when you and I first started talking ai.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:00:57
Sai reached out to you on Instagram Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:00:58
And
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:00:59
you were ai, I’m gonna wait a little while. Yeah. I’m gonna just do this right Yeah. Which is I thought was very intelligent because you could have just jumped in like many guys do and then they get UFC throws you in with a wrestler, you get exposed, and now you’re so far behind the curve.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:01:13
It takes a long time to build up your confidence and your momentum again because you got smothered in your first fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:01:18
Yeah. That was 2015, I believe. I haven’t sent a DM to Dana saying just give me one shot. Just get me to the cage. I’ll do the rest. And, look, I I Ai would’ve, but I’m glad I took my tyler, and it was it was good for me just to fight different people from Ukraine, China, where’s Brazil, all different types of places, and then experience different styles.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:01:40
And that way, I felt confident enough when I ai to the UFC, my ai fight. Shout out Rob Wilkinson. Good guy, good friend of mine now. And, yeah, he tried to take me down constantly, and I was able to withstand that because of the work we did. And Andre Andre Pollet, my ai code, a lot of drills, just drills, wall work constantly.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:01:59
Get that did you start that? What did you do start grappling training?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:02:03
I started in 2010, but Sai I was meant to go into MMA straight away, but there was just so many kickboxing ai, and I kept on getting kickboxing fights that I was just too also, I like fighting kickboxing, so I was just like, oh, just take this fight, take this ai. But I was always grappling on the ai, like, low key grappling on the side.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:02:20
And, eventually, I think, I can’t remember my what year my ai UFC, MMA fight was. Would have been 2014 maybe or 13, and then I started taking it more seriously. Like, I’m a purple belt now, but I’m like, I’m a purple belt. I know I’m dangerous, but it’s like, I’m not like, there’s levels. There’s levels to belts. You know? There’s some purple belts, blue belts who can kick my ass.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:02:43
You know? But, yeah, Ai do enjoy it, though. I love grappling. I like I feel like a ninja cat when I’m grappling, and I’m on I’m on that flow state. Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:02:51
I just feel like I just it’s it’s fun to play with, but then, again, I’ve only ever shown cases of brief like, again, who’s won? Not just the Pereira ai, Madison Square Garden. Tyler, I had a triangle on them. Tavares, I had a guillotine at the end of the round. Some other ones with the Kimura ram. But, yeah, just no one’s really put me in that position to make me have to, like, really use my offensive grappling.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:03:16
But, again, when I get taken to the ground, I’m just ai, fuck. I’m just gonna stand up. If kickboxing was as big as MMA, do you
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:03:22
think you have ever done MMA?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:03:25
That’s a good question. Fuck. If okay. Money wise, probably ego, because I just knew a fucking nerd in pajamas to kick my ass. I just I can’t have that. Bro, honestly, it’s just I I just know, like, some dude can beat me, and he doesn’t have to even throw a punch. In the back of my mind, it’s still that’s why sometimes when all these, you know, boxes, you know, ai, like, back in the day when it was USC versus boxing or whatever, I was like, well, this is a this is real fighting.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:03:59
Like, do you wanna see what the baddest person on the planet is? Fight. Right. No one’s telling you you can’t use your weapons, but you wanna take away all my weapons. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:04:07
That’s why I don’t think I’ll ever box again because I just think it’s too limiting. Even kickboxing, I feel like Ai it’d be really hard for me too because it’s too limiting. I do like aspects of grabbing that I can use in a ai. But yeah. Nah. I like I like full fledged ai, and I think it’s it’s a healthy ego. I just knew.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:04:27
I have to really humble myself so I can learn how to fight these guys at their own game. Sai, yeah, that’s why.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:04:34
I like how 1 FC has everything. They have grappling matches. They have kickboxing matches. They have Muay Thai matches, and they have MMA matches. Ai think that is the way to go, and I really would let’s wish the UFC I know they’re invested in this slap fighting shah, but instead of that,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:04:49
like Ai fighting.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:04:50
Have a kickboxing league. Ai a Sai think they’re they don’t think that people would get into kickboxing. Wrong.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:04:57
Yeah. They just did the one in Denver for 1 FC recently. It went well, and the fights are crazy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:05:02
Yes. A lot
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:05:02
of knockdowns. Uh-huh. A lot of action packed stuff. But if if it was just marketed the right way, you know, with the UFC’s marketing machine, easily easily would be one of the biggest
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:05:13
Because everybody loves KOs. Everybody loves stand up ai, and you’re gonna It’s slap fighting. There’s a lot of KOs there. But you’re gonna get you’re gonna get real chaos because kids they can’t no one can grapple.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:05:26
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:05:26
You can’t grapple. So you’re gonna get people that are forced to stand up and you could then attract the greatest strikers in the world like 1 FC is doing. They’re getting all these ai killers, you know, these rod tanks
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:05:36
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:05:37
All these, like, elite tie fighters and they’re all coming over and they’re fighting in the cage now. And I feel like there’s an opportunity for that for a kickboxing league in America that would be hugely successful if, like, the UFC machine got behind.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:05:50
Yeah. You know John Wayne Paugh started that. I think he did. I think about it. Cage yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:05:54
Because I watched Little gloves.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:05:56
I watched both fights with Brad Riddell, I think. Or the first no. The first one with Brad Riddell. That was saloni one. Sorry. That was the one I watched at Cage Fighting. Great fight. Crazy fight. Even though John lost, he just showed me who he is. But, yeah, I think he did start Cage Muay Thai. Yes. That was his thing.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:06:11
I think it was his thing.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06:12
He should’ve fucking trademarked that shit. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:06:17
Well, Muay Thai with little gloves is different too. Right? Because, you know, there’s blocks you you can’t use. You there’s Just shielding, like,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06:23
the Dutch style. I remember with the big gloves. I always talked about it as well. I always felt my striking was better for MMA. I always felt it was better for MMA because I was like, no. If you can just do this, that’s yeah. You just block whatever Ai hit. This is who’s tough?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:06:36
Who’s tougher? Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06:37
But with the small gloves, you can get around the guard. The hand traps are different. Mhmm. So I I always just felt like, yeah, my striking would excel better in MMA. I wasn’t as not I’m tough, but I wasn’t as just, like
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:06:49
Tough for no reason.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06:50
Yeah. Thank you. Like, I I didn’t mean to use my brain. You know what I mean? So I was just tough for no reason, ai, boom boom boom. Okay. Hit you. Hit me. Hit me. Hit you. Hit you. Yeah. That’s not my style.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:06:59
I always felt I was slicker the way I moved, the way I set traps, and that’s why I like them and make striking better.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:04
It’s kinda crazy about the Dutch. Right? Like, what is it about them that makes their style so savage? Because if you go back and you, like, watch, like, Ramon Deckers or Rob Cameron or Ernesto Hoost Yeah. Oh ai god. There was
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:16
some of the culture.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:17
Is that what it is? Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:18
I think it’s the culture of the shah because you, I’ve seen some of the gym spas. That’s how they
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:22
I heard it’s insane over there.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:23
Yeah. Khalil was talking about it. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:25
Khalil was telling the way you went to ai over there years back, and he’s ai, I don’t can’t fucking do this. Like Yeah. No. These guys are going hard every day.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:33
For $0. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:35
$0. Ai, what do you get paid in glory? What do the best fighters get paid in glory? Like, what what is like
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:41
I wasn’t getting paid that much.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:42
What does Rico Verhoeven get paid to defend his heavyweight title?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:46
I think he probably gets more than most. He’s still in glory. Right? Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I kinda fell off them after they rubbed me off the fucking belt. I was just like, yeah. Whatever. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:57
Was the Jason Williston fight?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:07:58
Yeah. After that, I kinda
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:07:59
I thought you sana fight too.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:08:00
Yeah. I know. It’s one of those things. Look. I’m glad things happen the way they have in my career because it always gives me an opportunity to come back or rise again and showcase my spirit, my fighting spirit, not just in the cage, but as a human being. Mhmm. So all the things that have happened to me in my in my in my career when it comes to losses or setbacks, I just go, cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:08:18
Let’s see what I can do next. Right. Yeah. Like, even look. The DDP fight, Strickland ai, or some other one. Well, Pereira, I got that back.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:08:26
Yan won, I feel like that was a side quest. I’m just kinda like, man, that’s cool, but and I I never hold on to them. I never hold on, like, I need to get this. It’s like, nah. This is fine.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:08:37
If it like, the Alex won, I was cool if that never happened, but then he decided to chase me and I was ai, cool. Let’s do it.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:08:43
The Jan thing is a crazy situation. Right? Because Jan goes to a split decision with Pereira. It’s a great fight. It’s a tough fight. He has that crazy fight with, Ankolaiv. It goes to a draw. Yeah. And then no one’s talking about him. Yeah. Everyone’s talking about contenders in the light heavyweight division.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:00
Like, what about Jan Bajovic? Yeah. Meh him in now before he’s too fucking old. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:04
I think he’s already in his forties. Yeah. Early forties. But, yeah, I think he
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:07
won the title that old. Like, was he ai 39 or 40 when he won the title?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:11
It was. I’m trying to think.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:13
He I just feel like he’s being disrespected. Like, he’s he’s just not getting the attention. Like, if you look at his performances, the guy’s not had a bad performance. Like, there’s not one fight that was boring. There’s not one fight where he wasn’t trying to win.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:27
He’s not a wrestler. Right.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:29
He’s fighting top contenders. He’s fighting top guys.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:31
Boxing. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:32
He’s a fucking animal. And he’s out of the conversation. Like, they’re talking about Ai fighting, you know, like, oh, Alex is avoiding Ankolaiv, so he takes Khalil. Ankolaiv and Jan Buhovich went to a fucking draw. Like, what about that? Like, what about him?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:48
Yeah. Maybe because he doesn’t make as much noise because I don’t really see him on there as much anymore.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:55
What does it say?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:09:57
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:09:57
I was supposed to fight, Rocket, but he got a shoulder injury. He’s hurt right now. Oh, shoulder surgery.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:10:03
So that
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:10:03
but that was January. So that was 10 months ago.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:10:06
Maybe he’s not back yet.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:10:07
Yeah. Must be. Well, that’s about the right amount of ai, especially when you’re dealing with shoulder injuries, man. Those fucking things take forever.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:10:15
Yeah. No. Go see if I can what’s his name? Briggs. But, yeah, I’m glad I got some today, though. Thank you for that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:10:20
I actually feel Stem cells.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:10:21
Yeah. It’s not from the stem cells. I like that from the just the the drip I got earlier. But, yeah, the stem cells the ones I had in my, ai ankle, yeah, they worked. When I went to Mexico, yeah, it works.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:10:33
It’s a game changer. Yeah. It’s a game changer. Yeah. And we’re getting fucked here in America where it’s very difficult to get the same ai of treatment that you can get in Mexico and then Panama. What they can do here is much more limited. Hopefully, in the future, they’ll release those limitations, but in America, you’re dealing with a lot of corruption because
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:10:50
Pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:10:52
Surgeons, pharmaceutical drug companies, they don’t they’re gonna lose a lot of money if they have stem cell treatments because there’s so many different things that they could fix.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:00
Ai Briggs was just talking about what he said on here, just going at them Mhmm. And that went viral,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:11:05
which is good.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:05
I just told him, bro, put out a tweet and say Ai would never ever kill myself ever. I think that’s a smart thing to do. He was a little weird. Tweet. Like, because he when you start fucking with those guys, pharmaceutical companies, they will find anything. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:11:17
You get
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:18
in the plane crash. Whoopsie. Oh, how did that happen? Yeah. Fuck. There was one was the one for me I put that tweet out one time because I kinda got a little paranoid. Fuck that, but so Ai, I did this interview with Oscar Willis. Right? And I started talking about the whole this is when Epstein just got arrested. Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:35
And I was saying, like, well, Epstein just got arrested. Right? And then Oscar goes, yeah. It’s funny how the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, case is getting more attention than that. And Ai, like, crazy, isn’t it?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:45
So this Epstein guy just, sold kids or whatever, trafficked them to these rich oligarchs and whatnot. Ai was like, what happened to them? What happens to those people? Where’s the list? Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:11:55
And then Ai I didn’t think anything of it, but then it went ai, and then every year since it goes viral at least twice or 3 times, I’ll see it just circulate again, and I’m just like, oh, fuck. So then I went on Twitter, and I said, I would and I’ll say it again. Look. What is it? I will never ever kill myself.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:12:12
I’ve never even come close. I mean, we all think about it sometimes. Like, when I was working this job, ai just have, like, a passing fleeting thought, like, oh, if I just jump over this bridge and hurt my leg, I don’t have to work for the next 6 months because I hated my last job, but I would never ever ever ever ever kill myself.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:12:29
I’m not that I’m not built that way, and I’ve been there before ai, I think, 2013, I ai, is this how people feel before they kill themselves? Like, the how sad they were? And I was like, man, that’s sad. That just made me feel sad for those who actually go through with it. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:12:43
But, yeah, anyway, I would never kill myself just in case.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:12:47
Well, there’s enough people commenting on the Epstein case that I don’t think you have to worry, but Yeah. The people that are in the position to actually know the people’s names on the list, those people are probably in trouble.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:12:58
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:12:58
Because that’s a crazy piece of information to have.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:01
And the fact is that
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:03
look. No one’s been tried. No one’s been brought with no one’s been discussed. We know who went there. We know flight logs. No one talks about anything. There’s no effort to prosecute. There’s no effort and then you have Ghislaine Maxwell who’s in jail for sex trafficking to who?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:21
To who? You have to have
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:22
you have to have done it to someone, but there’s no effort at all to uncover that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:27
Yeah. But I’m saying now this year, it’s kinda crazy how this year started off with, what’s his name, Katt Williams. Mhmm. Muschiette Shah. He starts talking spoon of the tea, sipping the cognac. Yeah. And then now this whole p ditty thing.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:39
Sometimes you have to tell Diddy no.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:41
Oh, man. Bro.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:42
Yeah. It’s crazy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:43
Oh, man.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:44
Sean Diddy Combs alleged list of accomplishes to be revealed soon. The names will shock you, attorney says, woah. I think
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:49
he’s gonna sing sai think I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:13:51
think he has to sing or he’s gonna
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:13:53
tell you what to say. Ai. God protects me. I’m so glad God protects me because, look, if I got invited to the white party, I’d have gone.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:14:03
Especially if you didn’t know.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:04
Of course. No one know. No one ai.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:14:06
And then you find out. Celebrity and you know, oh, Jennifer Lopez is gonna be there. Oh,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:11
Rick Ross is
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:14:12
gonna be there. Everyone’s gonna be there. That would be a cool place. I wanna meet those people. Relax.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:16
And I just wanna be there having fun partying, but then they start to apparently they said they were using I’m gonna guess it’s like ketamine because ai said horse tranquilizer. And they’ll put in people’s drinks and the champagne and then getting them all loose. Yeah. I’ll tell you a secret. It’s just us 2. Right? Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:31
After I knocked up Pereira in Miami, we went to Tootsie’s the next night, and they were like, yo, P Diddy wasn’t here watching your fight last night. I was like, wait. Word? Crazy. And Ai went and checked my DMs, and I saw, oh, shit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:44
He hit me up, and he was talking about 2 months that I wanna do an interview or whatever. And I said, here’s my manager’s number. Bop. Cool. Nothing ever came off it. But, again, that’s why I sai, god be protected. Right. Right. Because who knows? Right. Right. Like, you never know. Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:14:57
We’re having this party later on. Yeah. That’s cool. Alright. Cool. Cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:00
And then they start to, like, you know, you find some chick, you pull on you, and then boom. Oh, how was that 15 year old?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:15:07
Like, wait, what? Right. And you filmed.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:09
Yeah. I heard about that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:15:10
Yeah. He had apparent allegedly. Cameras all over the house and a 100 bottles
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:16
of baby oil. Yeah. What? Nobody’s dancing, bro. A 1,000 also, by the way, that shit lube. Coconut oil is better, fucking water based lubricant. Yeah. But baby oil is acidic as fuck, Johnson and Johnson’s. Like, that’s demonic, bro. Like, why would you use baby oil on your fucking dude? Nah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:37
Probably started out with a that’s all the bottles. No. That’s that’s AI.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:15:37
That’s gotta be AI. I don’t that’s AI. That’s gotta
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:41
be AI. That’s gotta be AI.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:15:43
I don’t know if it’s AI. I think that’s real. I think it was lube and baby oil. I think you had a variety of different substances.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:15:49
Who counted that? Was that a 1,000? Look at that. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ai, 6 bottles. Baby oil on the wall.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:15:57
Imagine having 500 bottles and go, we need to go for a fucking Target run.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:01
No, man. Oh, the fact they said it was fucking what do you call it? Costco and Costco goes, shah. We don’t sell that shit. What is this? Defaced
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:08
Arya fifteens? Interesting. What does that mean? Does that mean So they scratch the
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:11
scratch the serial numbers off? Off?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:12
Yeah. Woah. That’s a serious crime. Yeah. That’s a serious crime.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:16
But, again, see, he’s in cahoots with, Epstein. And then
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:22
Is he in cahoots with was he in cahoots with Epstein, or was it just a similar type of an operation?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:26
He he they were friends.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:27
Really?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:28
Yeah. Because Epstein had a fucking no, on Miami as well, that really private, rich, estate in Ai. So they were all in cahoots as well, but, again, I think he’s gonna sing.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:40
Isn’t it crazy, like, that was always the conspiracy theory tinfoil hat thing? Oh, there’s a place where the elites go to fuck underage kids. Ai, what?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:49
What’s his name? Alex Jones? Alex Jones.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:51
Yeah. He was right. He was right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:53
He was right about a lot of things.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:54
About almost everything.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:55
Yeah. Most.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:16:56
About almost
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:16:56
everyone. Fucked up that one.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:17:00
But but almost everything else he was but you gotta realize that that guy had been in uncovering real conspiracies that the media had not covered for fucking decades. And he was literally having, like, a psychotic break because of it because he’s just drinking all the time and dealing with the stress.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:17:17
How would you even Kanye, imagine you ai to tell people something
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:17:21
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:17:21
And then no one believes you and they call you crazy. I go crazy just trying to explain to people even I can imagine the frustration the frustration of trying to explain to someone, and you’re like, no. This is really happening. This and they’re like, yeah. Whatever. You this and that. And I went down the rabbit hole in 2020. Ai tell you. I did.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:17:38
I had to. And for me, it was just ai I could see the fuckery. I could look. This is the mark of the immigrant. It’s right here.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:17:50
If you look at any immigrant, it’s just like that little dot. It’s, keloid. It’s from a vaccine we all had as as kids all over Africa. I can’t remember what it was for. So I’m on a post of vaccines, but when someone’s trying to force you or co co coher coerce you or whatever into taking something that you’re ai you know, something just doesn’t feel right about it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:18:13
You know what I mean? Yeah. But, again, I grew up in Nigeria. I know how corruption works. Right. Sai, I mean, I’m a loyal Biden citizen.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:18:21
You know what I’m saying? I I did my part. Ai yeah. Yeah. Meh. Whatever. But still, I just knew something was afoot, so I yeah. I did my part.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:18:30
I played the game, because it’s all a game. I got offered different ways to to play the game, but I was like, I’ll find my own way, and I did. So, yeah, stay pure, which is good.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:18:40
Yeah. This whole thing was just money. Mhmm. It was just they were trying to convince everybody that needed a vaccine because they wanted to make enormous amounts of money, and they pulled it off.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:18:48
And then now with all the information that’s come out, all the deaths Yeah. Ai I saw that, shah, ai suddenly or whatever. Yeah. And you see the blood clots Uh-huh. From the same time that the vatsal got pushed. Excuse me. And then everyone just goes, oh, oh, well, carry on with my dad.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:19:08
It’s like again, I’m frustrated in a sense, but I don’t say it because, like, we fucking told you. Yes. But then Ai don’t need an apology. No one needs an apology, but it’s kinda like everyone just, oh, well, I guess that’s that and then carry on with your fucking life.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:19:23
I was talking to a dude last night who’s a veteran who was telling me that the hospital where these veterans get treated, they they literally told him we are not allowed to make a connection with any of these adverse side effects to the vaccine. Even ones that are listed as vaccine side effects, they’re not allowed to make that connection because they mandated the vaccine. Yeah. And this is the real problem.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:19:45
The reason why all these corporations, all these people don’t sana talk about it is because they mandated their employees to get vaccinated. Yeah. So they even though there’s no liability for the vaccine manufacturers because they’re exempt, which is part of the problem why they fucking propose all these things anyway. Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:20:00
But then you’re not allowed to make the connection with the problem these people are having and the fact that they got vaccinated 2, 3 ai, you’re not even allowed to say that this might have been the cause of it. They’re not even allowed to bring up that connection.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:20:15
That’s fine.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:20:15
So they have to just treat whatever the side effect of the vaccine is without talking at all about the vaccine and not give any connection to it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:20:23
Isn’t that funny?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:20:24
It’s through the looking glass.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:20:25
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:20:26
It’s ai we’re living in the matrix, man. It really is. It’s like there’s complete mind control, and the idea of mind control is like, no. Mind control is not real. Of course, it’s real.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:20:33
It happens. I’ve seen it. I so many butts, bro. Like, sometimes I move through life, and I feel ai, look. We are all born, like, as players in this game, but everyone gets kinda programmed through, you know, schooling or whatever education system, society, and then they just become butts, And I can see it as well.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:20:51
I can because when I was bringing it up and Ai say something, even people I really love and trust sometimes and then did instantly ai call it, Agent Smith Syndrome Uh-huh. And they ai, no. Actually, this and that. Right ai right or right.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:21:04
I might Do you know why that is? Because they got vaccinated
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:21:09
and they They wanna be told people
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:21:10
to get vaccinated, and they don’t wanna believe they made the bad decision, and they don’t wanna believe they coerced other people into making a bad decision.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:21:17
Yeah. So
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:21:17
they wanna come up with all sorts of reasons why all these health problems and all these and then the the overall all all cause mortality increase which is through the roof. Yeah. In some age brackets, it’s 40% increase in all cause mortality, strokes, cancer, heart attacks.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:21:34
All these things have gone through the roof and no one is making a connection.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:21:38
Must be just, you know, the food people are eating. Yeah. People just ignore it. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:21:42
It’s just money.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:21:43
Even some people, like, that did get it, they tell me they regret getting it. Yeah. Most people ai they say I regret getting it, but Ai had to because if not, my job is gonna fire me then I had to. And the the fucking ai thing, our former fucking prime minister, she did, oh, I don’t believe we I don’t believe we coerced anyone into getting it. I don’t Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:22:03
And I you just I’m, like, bitch, you literally said if you can’t if you don’t get this, you can’t go grocery shopping Yeah. Can’t go to restaurants, you can’t do that, can’t work. So your livelihood gone, but then we didn’t I don’t think we forced anyone. We didn’t force your hand.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:22:19
Like, when people do that, that’s the ultimate form of gaslighting. You’re just, like, in our face. The pressure was incredible.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:22:25
The pressure was incredible. And, you know, I felt it in the the weirdest way because I saw people lying about me on CNN. I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:22:34
Or the horse tranquilizer thing?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:22:35
They they yeah. They it was it was horse dewormer. They they changed the color of my face. They made me look yellow and sick on television. I’m like, if you do that to me and by the way, no one gave a fuck that I got better real quick. That was the craziest part about it. Isn’t this supposed to be about recovering from a disease?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:22:51
Here you got a guy who’s recovered in 3 days and is telling you all the shit he took and you’re lying.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:22:58
Just to try to, like, superimpose that sepia kinda filter of the Yeah. The one that got meh, so because we still travel during 2020. I did 4 of those Ai quarantines. The one where you go back to your own country Uh-huh. And then you have to quarantine in a hotel for 2 weeks before you get tyler back into society. Ai coach usually did 9, a lot of those.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:23:22
He even told me Israel, that last one. Luckily, the last one, he he was able to do it in his house, but then his family had to go live somewhere else for 2 weeks. He was just grateful he had it in his house. My last one, I I remember Ai went outside for our fucking daily ai for, what, 40 minutes or whatever.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:23:40
Sometimes meh get shipped onto the playpen on a bus, like prisoners or whatever. And then I remember everyone was doing these circles, just walking in a circle, and I almost did a full circle one ai, and I was like, what the fuck am I doing? And then I went back into my room, and I stayed in my room for the remaining, 11 days because I just felt like this was too much.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:02
And then, also, the one that got me was third one. This lady had a a a kid in a she meh be paraplegic or whatever. She had a a neurological disease, and then the the kid had a seizure while the the mom was having the smoke somewhere. The kid had a seizure, and one of the guys went and helped the mom with the kid.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:21
And the officer that helped the mom with the kid, they put him in quarantine for 3 days because he didn’t have the correct PPE gear on. So that let me know this isn’t about looking after people. It’s about punishing this guy for disobeying the law because he didn’t have so wait.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:37
Oh, someone’s having a seizure. Hold up, miss. Let me go put on this fucking overall and tape my gloves on
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:24:43
this. While this kid’s dying. Exactly.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:45
Ai and they put him they punished him for that. So that let me know, like, okay. This is fuckery. This is a foot.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:24:49
Well, I remember when Dan Hooker had fought over here, and then he had there was a a picture of him being on the side of a fence looking at his
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:57
daughter. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:24:58
It was heartbreaking. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:24:59
He couldn’t Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:25:00
Couldn’t see his daughter for, like, 2 weeks.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:25:02
Usually, he had the same thing. He had a newborn at the ai, so I I have a picture of him with his wife and his son on the other side as well. And then you’re separating families, all that kind of stuff. Look. I I like my alone time. I love I might seem like a social butterfly, and I am.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:25:18
I can do both, but I love my alone tyler, and I like being inside. But when you have too much alone time, that’s bad.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:25:25
Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:25:26
I didn’t like that because then you start to go in your head with all these other things. I mean, I didn’t go crazy, but there was I was I was dancing on the edge.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:25:33
Well, that was a lot
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:25:34
of things.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:25:35
People on Twitter lost their fucking mind because they were on Twitter all day long, locked in their house during quarantine for, you know, months months at a ai, just literally getting mentally ill. Mhmm. Just reading Twitter and attacking people and and then blaming all these people that are unvaccinated on all the problems of the world.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:25:53
They just put us against each other Yeah. Constantly. Now yeah. I just
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:25:57
hope people don’t do that again. I hope people realize, like, hey, that was no one benefited from that. No one got better. No one it didn’t help anybody survive. It was all bullshit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:26:07
I hope there’s another lockdown. But, yeah, just for, like, a month, I think okay. Look. Every year, at least for 2 weeks or even some places, maybe a month, just alright. Shut everything down. Everyone go. It was good. Like, you get to spend time with your family or the people you live with and realize, do I fuck with these people, or do I not?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:26:26
And they also build, like, build relationships, end relationships, things like that. The whole world got better. The fucking ocean got cleaner. So I think it’s good. Lockdown was good for that when when it was, like, okay. But not for extended periods, ai, 6 months or whatever. That was crazy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:26:41
For the economy. Even a lockdown for a month is terrible for the economy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:26:44
How so?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:26:45
It takes a long time to recover.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:26:46
Oh, true.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:26:47
When everything seizes and you’re not getting any packages and, like, right now, there’s a teamsters and longshoreman strike in America, which means all the docks, all the shipments are coming in, no one’s no one’s moving, nothing. Everything’s locked down. Amazon just for 2 weeks? No. No. No. No.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:02
No. No. No.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:02
Eventually, that’s all gonna lock down. Eventually, there’s gonna be nothing. If these guys keep going, it’s gonna cripple the economy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:09
I don’t
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:09
right now, it’s only been a couple of days, but the the head of the, longshoremen’s union was talking about what effect it’s gonna have and he he basically sai
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:17
want Why are they doing it?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:19
Because they want more money.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:20
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:20
They they feel like they have a more valuable position than they’re being compensated for and this sana best way that they can negotiate. Like, you guys need to understand how valuable we are to your society. You take us for granted.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:31
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:31
You don’t wanna give us what’s fair and so we’re gonna fuck you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:34
Sure.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:34
And they haven’t had a lockdown like that since 1977. Apparently.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:38
Yeah. Damn. Ai I said, it’s a real one.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:40
It’s a real one. Damn.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:40
It’s a
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:27:41
scary one too because, it they have a immense power and they haven’t flexed it before, and they’re flexing it now. And they’re flexing it, like, right before an election, which is, who knows what kind of effect that’s gonna have? Because if the economy tanks because of that and they can blame Biden and Kamala Harris, you know, it could it could get crazy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:27:58
Yeah. I will see. That start, like, a a week ago, 2 weeks ago. Days ago. Oh, really?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:28:03
I think it was October 1st.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:28:05
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I always like it when look, I love America, but I like watching it from New Zealand. I love like, when I call you, I love the food, like, the fucking, you know, Shake Shack or the just delicious, like, last night, took so long for this burger or something, Austin, to get get to our hotel, but then when it got there, it would just smash, like, all these smashed burgers.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:28:28
I ate 3 of them sai good. And I go back home, and I eat clean, and I get my buddy right again. But here, I love it. Even, when Trump won, I was stuck here for in San Diego for about 8 weeks. That’s when I went to Atos Jiu Jitsu, and I got really, really good at jiu jitsu for a while.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:28:44
Me and my teammates, we just thought, like, when Trump wins, we need to have food for 4 days because it’s gonna be fucking crazy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:28:53
This it’s
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:28:54
gonna because from where we are in New Zealand, the camera only shows you this. So Trump wins, we’re looking outside like, okay, sai, cool, everyone’s and we’re not nothing’s really happening. You see, you know, Trump flags on someone’s lawn, Biden or whatever on someone’s lawn still. It’s fine.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:29:11
But then someone explained to me that even the the capital riots when and DC, they face the cameras this way. If you just turn the cameras this way, you’ll see the rest of the street just normal. Mhmm. So from New Zealand, when we see what’s happening here, it’s just the biggest, craziest sitcom.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:29:26
And, again, like I said, I love America, but I like watching it from New Zealand. But I do enjoy being here, but, again, watching it from New Zealand, we have our own chaos to deal with, but this one is just juicy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:29:36
It’s a different ai of chaos. The whole world’s watching. That’s what’s different because America is such a weird country that the whole world is watching when we have elections.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:29:43
Even look. Trump just got almost assassinated. Twice. Twice? Ai. What? There’s
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:29:48
a second assassination attempt. No. Yeah. There was a guy who got caught with an AK 47. He was hiding in the bushes for 130 minutes, got in a shootout with the secret service.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:29:57
I missed all this.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:29:58
Yeah. Because they took it in and out of the news in, like, a heartbeat.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:01
He there was a shootout?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:30:02
No. The the the secret service shot at him. He fled. I don’t think he shot at the secret service. He fled and then they caught him.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:11
What was it before or after the After. After. Okay. I see.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:30:14
So this is a a guy who’s a real lunatic. He went over Ukraine to fight for the Ukraine forces. It’s a crazy person.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:21
Okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:30:21
And, this guy was somehow or another armed to the tits even though it’s illegal for him to be carrying a gun. He’s a convicted saloni. K. And he, almost assassinated Trump, and he was out of the news cycle in a couple of days.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:36
I missed that completely. I didn’t even know about it. This is news
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:30:38
Bro, they gloss over it. They don’t give a fuck.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:40
But, again, how do you gloss over that? The one with, when he got shot and he just turned his ear. Crazy. There’s so many things fucked up with that. You know why? I mean, I’m sure you’ve already talked about this to other people, but just the fact that it’s just they apparently saw him on the roof for, what, 9 minutes or something beforehand and just watched them.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:30:57
My so many things that just go wrong
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:30:59
with that one. Yeah. Everything’s wrong. It wasn’t really secret service. A lot of those are Homeland Security.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:03
The the lady with the gun that she put on.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:06
Fumbling with the gun, full panic. Yeah. The whole thing was madness. And the fact that that went out of the news cycle real quickly too. Nobody cares about the fact they almost killed that guy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:16
Now it’s about the debate. It’s about the debate.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:18
And they went right back to calling him a threat to democracy, a threat to our ai, and, like, hey, who’s that kid? How did he die? What what what happened there? How did he get a hold of those detonators? How did his apartment get completely professionally scrubbed?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:33
Mhmm. When they
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:34
went to that kid’s house, there was no silverware. His house was professionally scrubbed.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:37
And he lived by himself. Isn’t he a teenager?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:39
20 years old.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:40
Oh, okay.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:40
Meanwhile, he was in a BlackRock commercial.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:31:42
BlackRock the company? Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:44
He was in a BlackRock commercial. Okay. And then yeah. Dude, there’s so much to that story. And here’s the thing, if he kills Trump and then they kill him, who knows? It’s all lost. It’s all in the wind. Yeah. Saloni shooter, crazy sana.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:31:59
Unfortunately, got a hold of Trump. You know what we need to do? Take everyone’s guns. Yeah. Because gun violence is a real problem in this country. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:32:05
You know what’s also a problem? Mind control. Like, what did you do to that kid? What drugs was he on? No toxicology examination.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:32:12
They burned his body in 10 days.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:32:14
Really? The
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:32:14
FBI took a hold of somebody. Bury him? No. They fucking cremated his ass. Fuck.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:32:19
Sai, this is what I like. I just get the popcorn. I just go, yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:32:22
It’s nuts. It’s a because he would have been Lee Harvey Oswald too. I mean, just like Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly shoots JFK, Jack Ruby walks up to him. Ram. Shoots him. He’s dead. What happened? Who knows?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:32:34
That’s the whole magic bullet theory. Again, I’ve gone down the rabbit hole to a point where I saw that it might have been the driver. Nah. No? Nah. Okay. Nah. Is Sai is is that clip AI.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:32:45
Yeah. That that’s bullshit. Multiple shooters for sure. Most likely people in the grassy knoll, and most likely probably somebody from where Oswald was as well. It might have even been Oswald. Oswald might have taken a shot as well.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:32:57
Ai saw this video. See, this is the you can’t trust shit these days. No. Bro, I swear next year I think next year, it’ll be when it’s ai you have to really know what you’re watching. I’ll have to question everything because now it’s fingers, ai. I can kinda oh, that’s a bullshit. And, also, there’s a little texture.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:33:14
There’s a texture with the AI videos, and I’m like, that’s Ai.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:33:18
For now.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:33:18
Yeah. Next year, it’s better
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:33:20
and better. Yeah. I sana pissed. Let’s take a leak real quick.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:33:22
Come right back. Yeah. I’ll take a piss as well.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:33:24
Tell me
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:33:24
about my documentary. It’s, great. So we’re talking what were we talking about before? Oh, we just went on a tangent about fucking chemtrails and shit. No. But I was just telling Jamie about my documentary. I said, like, he should watch it as well. Sai said, even if it wasn’t about me, I’d still recommend it because it was a well made, not so sporty sporty films.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:33:45
Like, one of the best pictures I got sent was this lady knitting on a plane and then watching it, and I thought that was it’s like a old lady, not her demographic watching Meh. She’s watching me through a documentary knitting because it was something that it was different.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:34:02
When did they start filming this?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:34:05
They came on board, oh, 22,018, we started talking, and then they came on board with their cameras. But Jeff Sai. Meh, who is, my videographer, works for Zuck now, literally does everything. But, yeah, he had a lot of behind the scenes footage. And we just put it all together talking about my kinda rise in this game, but also dealing with the, I guess, the pressures of all this. You know?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:34:37
Because no one there’s no book on how to be famous. Right. I had to learn this on my own. I had to learn this myself.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:34:44
What was the most difficult part of it for you?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:34:46
For me, I think people. I just didn’t expect that. I knew I I wanted to be when you grow up, you think, I wanna be rich and famous. Like, when, you know, the MTV Cribs era Right. The Pimp My Right era, I thought, yo, when I’m rich, I’m sana have 7 cars, 1 for every other week.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:35:02
I’m a have this many houses, have real estate now differently, but, also, I only need 2 cars. Like, there’s all these other stuff that comes through. Also, I’m not a car person like you. I just like Hot Wheels, But but and I could buy Don’t
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:35:15
you have the McLaren, though?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:35:17
Yeah. That’s what I’m saying. The my best reaction when when I wrapped it was Sai love seeing little boys be ai when they see it. Yeah. But now I’ve put it back to black, and I’m gonna do something different to it later on with some air Not meh. My guy, Matty Bro. But, yeah, oh, just people.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:35:32
There’s even a bit in this documentary where, they would just fill me one day, and then these kids are, like they just drove by my house, Oh my god. And they beeped the horn. They kinda gave me a fright, and they came to my door. And then the camera was filming, so it’s in the documentary.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:35:50
And I I I explained to them, oh, it’s cool. Let’s take a photo, but then it got to a point where it’d be, like, 9 PM, 10 PM, and then Yeah. Ai was stopping the home because my street my my house, my front door was accessible to the street. That was my first house I ever bought.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:36:06
Now David lives there. That’s his home, and I live in this fucking complex that has a gate and a code. So if you have to get to my front door, you have to be there. And, yeah, just dealing with people was the main thing for me because I didn’t expect the attention I was getting.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:36:22
I was expecting it by, I guess, the variable of the unknown. So, yeah, I just had to learn how to protect my energy and protect my some boundaries. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, today after lunch, excuse me, I I’d say yes to photos, but if I feel like, say, I’m at the airport, if I say yes to you you’ve had this before.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:36:42
We say yes to 1, and people are like, oh, he’s taking photos, and it becomes like a zombie apocalypse. Mhmm. And I’m like, yo, I I gotta go somewhere. So if I tell someone, like, yo, Ai I can’t right now. If I say yes to you, I gotta say, oh, please just 1, and I’m like, it’s not just 1.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:36:55
Right. You don’t understand.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:36:57
Yeah. And then I’m the I’m the asshole, but I and I I love my fans ai I love people who actually support meh, and I try and make time for them, but then ai I have to make time for me Yeah. Because I’ve been there before where it’s pretty much Ai just there, and then, oh, my turn. My turn. I’m like, bro, I’m not even having fun.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:37:15
I don’t even have kids yet, but when I have kids, that’s when I’m gonna be like, nah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:37:20
Yeah. My youngest daughter won’t have it. She grabbed me and dragged me away. Good. Ai, when people try to take photographs, she hates it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:37:27
Good.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:37:28
My middle daughter doesn’t it doesn’t bother her that much, but the the youngest daughter, she gets fucking angry. Ai, they’re stealing my daddy’s attention from me.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:37:34
Thank you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:37:35
Yeah. For me, even if
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:37:36
I okay. When if I go on a date or whatever and someone sees me and tries to take a photo, I just go, I’m on her time right now. You have to ask her. Or if I’m with my family, I just say no.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:37:44
Especially when you’re sitting down having dinner. That’s crazy. When they come up to the table, like, come on, man. Get the fuck out
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:37:49
of here. Social awareness this day and age and everyone. And you know what? It’s it’s funny. I can feel it coming once they see me because they look like they’re about to pull out a gun. Right. That’s what it feels ai. Every time they do it, I’m just like and I say yes to most of it, but there’s times I’ll say no.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:03
So that would be Ai say the the most difficult thing so far was just dealing with people. But, again, I do like people, but also, I don’t like some people. Some people just so entitled.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:38:13
Entitled.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:14
They just come up at you, and it’s just like They
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:38:16
feel like you owe them something because they know who you are.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:19
I’m ai so I’m like, you’re not even a fan. Sometimes it’s it’s this thing where they just see people taking photos. Like, I want a photo too. Right. I’m like, you don’t even know what I ai. But, like, oh, can I get one, please?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:38:29
Yeah. Who are you?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:30
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. You know why? I like it when someone doesn’t genuinely know who I am, but when oh, I’m sorry. I don’t know who you are. I’m like, it’s okay. My name’s Israel, because I got to meet them on a first name basis.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:38:42
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:42
But one of the best ones and the best replies I gave one time was these 3 chicks and or 2 ai, they were just, you know, oh ai god. Fan. Fan. Fan. And one of them was, excuse me, but who are you? I was, like, I’m the
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:38:52
only one. Girl.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:38:53
Yeah. And then she came back again, like, 3 more tyler, and, like, excuse me, but, like, who are you? I don’t even know who you are. And I was, like, bitch, I don’t know who you arya. And then her face was just, like, and I just left it saloni, but, again, I prefer meeting people on a first name basis. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:39:07
It makes me feel ai I get to know you and you get to know me without some preconceived notion of what you’ve seen on TV or YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. I love
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:39:15
when someone doesn’t know who I am now. Now it’s nice. Now I can have a regular conversation with someone. You know, I’m like, what do you do? You know, like, I’m a comedian. Oh, have you ever been on television?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:39:25
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:39:25
A couple of times. Oh, I’ll look out for you. Okay. Good.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:39:28
No. I like those, but then that
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:39:29
way, it’s just It’s just these 2 people talking to each
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:39:31
other. Real.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:39:32
I like what you said protect your energy because that’s really what it is. Because if you give up your energy to everyone, you will get lost. Yeah. You will get lost.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:39:40
I learned that, the the the week before the Robert Whitaker fight in Meh. So I had this epiphany and then did the fight, did well. And, again, you know how I told you after my UFC debut, it was all this attention and stimulus, and when I went home, boom. Right. And for, like, a month, I just felt sai, and I’m thinking, like, nothing’s wrong. I’m so fucking like, I should be happy. I should be happy. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:40:03
And that’s when I started going to therapy. But then I learned through the techniques and tools I’ve got from that how to protect myself. So before the rub fight, I felt the same thing again because my girl at the time had to drag me away from the after party because I hid in the after party.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:40:18
I hid in the toilet. Oh. I had a drink. Jesus Christ. Put all the seats down, just sat there, and then she’s like, where are you, Ai?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:40:25
I’m like, I’m in the toilet. So I just sent her a text, and she’s like, shah. I’m coming to grab you. So we went to go get ramen somewhere. And then at the hotel before I flew out, I just put out something in my store saying, look, guys. I appreciate the love and all that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:40:37
If you see me, you can come say what’s up, but if you come yelling at me, I’m just gonna walk away. It’s the yelling thing, and I think that’s vatsal learned behavior. They say, oh my god. Yeah. Joe Bryden. I’m a and Yeah. Same rhetoric. I’m a huge fan.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:40:51
I’ve loved you since this. I’ve watched you since this, and it’s the same, like, bot responses Yeah. NPC responses, and they’re yelling. But if someone just comes up ai, hey, man. I’m a big fan. Do you mind if I take a pic? Cool. Let’s go. And they make it quick.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:41:04
They’re ready. They’re not going, oh, excuse me. What are you doing here? Right. I’m just like, yo. Don’t hold me hostage. Let’s just go. Like, take the picture.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:41:12
I like those. But if we have a genuine connection and Sai vibe with someone and we end up talking for, like, 5 minutes, even better. But you can’t try and facilitate that. But, yes, when people come
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:41:22
And then they hang around, and then they won’t leave.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:41:24
Yeah. And I’m just don’t hold me hostage with your conversation.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:41:28
There’s a do you remember the first time you met a famous person?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:41:32
You. I did some real shit. You will remember this, and I I, this is another one of those things. I’ll Sai can’t tyler you now because we’re boys, but I met you at UFC ai when Dan fought Yair, and I met you backstage at the weigh ins. And then I came to say what’s up, and then I I did I fucking bought shit, bro. Then I was like, bro, do you remember my friend, Chris?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:42:00
He took a photo with you, and then I sai video, And you’re like, yeah. A lot of people do that. And I was like, oh, yeah. There’s 6 minutes. And then for the next, like, 5 hours, idiot. Idiot. Why’d you say that? Ugh. And I just felt cringe, but I got over it eventually.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:42:17
But, again, it’s one of those things that you learn. Yeah, certain things I learned even with Snoop one time at Staples Center, when it was a Staples Center, I ended up smoking with him, but then I filmed it. And then afterwards, I remember thinking, like, why did you do that? Like, you should just enjoy the fucking moment. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:42:36
And I cringe at myself when Sai, like, I’m, like, ai doesn’t wanna fucking smoke with Snoop Dogg? Right. But why did I have to film it so I can show people? I don’t even think I did I ai? I did post it. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:42:46
Of course, I posted it. But, yeah, but, again, it’s one of those things I learned now. So there’s people I’ve met, places I’ve been now that I just I enjoyed the experience and it is what it is. I don’t need a photo. Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:42:57
It’s in here. I’ve taken snapshots. Well, but
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:42:59
you’ve had those experiences. That’s where I give people grace when they they’re first meeting me. It’s ai, I get it. I remember the first time I met someone famous. It’s weird. Yeah. It’s a weird feeling,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:43:08
you know. You’re like You don’t remember that one, do you?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:43:10
I don’t.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:43:10
Good. For the next 5 hours up to the next ai, I think the fight’s here the next ai, I was just like, hey, and I kinda got over it, and I just think and I told Chris when I went home, like, yeah. I told him about that, and I felt so stupid. Ai like, but Ai know now it’s better because when I meet people I really appreciate, I don’t geek out or what. Even if it’s some, I’m just like, yo.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:43:32
That’s that person. I kinda bird watch them. And if they recognize me one of the coolest ones was Eminem in Saudi Arabia because everyone was trying to get a photo, and then my my guy, Ike Securitas goes, hey, Israel will like to take photos. He goes, oh, yo. What’s up?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:43:45
And he came and took a photo with me, and I out of everyone, he I he like, he let me take a photo with him, so I was like, yeah. I felt cool because it’s Eminem. You know what I mean? So things like that, Ai appreciate, and certain moments like that, I appreciate, but I don’t I don’t force it. I don’t try and facilitate it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:44:00
I just let it be. I just let it be, and if I get it, cool, and I don’t need it. That’s the thing. You You don’t need to take a photo for everything. Just enjoy the moment. Just enjoy the moment. Enjoy the interaction. Enjoy the energy.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:44:10
But I understand the weirdness of meeting someone famous because I I do remember it. It’s just it’s an odd feeling. You don’t know what to do. You feel weird. You say dumb things. You don’t know why you’re saying them, and then you’re ai, what did I just do?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:44:22
I’m better now. The coolest one I think I had was Trump. What was this? Vegas at the ai. I haven’t even the the clip was one of the UFC thing, meh. And I ai him was, like, oh, yo. America’s Last Hope. What’s up? I dapped him up, and and Dana’s there just ai, and then we’re talking.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:44:40
We’re just dapping up and talking, and then meh was, like, enjoy your ai, this and that. Right? And it wasn’t weird because, again, I can understand, like, I’m meant to be here now. Right. Ai I get You belong. Impostor syndrome. Sometimes it still creeps in.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:44:53
I don’t know if you still get it. Yeah. It still creeps in, but I know how to identify it now.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:44:57
Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:44:57
And I go, right. I’m gonna shut it down ai any emotion, but, yeah, that was one of the cool ones I had where I was, okay. I handled myself well. I wasn’t an idiot. And and many other ones, but, yeah, the ones and there will be more.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:10
I used to get impostor syndrome so bad.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:12
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:12
Where I meet people, like, Mark, I can’t believe you know who I am. I I gotta hide. You should know who
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:16
I am. I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:17
know who you are. You should know me. I’m
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:19
a fucking loser. I felt that a little bit yesterday, but, I went to the mothership a little bit, but, again, you watch it on YouTube all the time. You’re like, oh my god. Me and my wife’s like, we’re here. This is cool. And then only for a little bit, but I realized I’m meant to be here because everyone’s standing around me. I’m kinda Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:35
Having to hold court, but I kinda just wanna shut up and just be like
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:40
Yeah. This is cool. Just enjoy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:42
Yeah. But everyone’s around me, and I was just cool, and Ari was the man, bro. He’s just such a he’s a funny dude. So tall and talking about kickboxing with him. And yeah. But I’ll probably head there tonight, see what’s up, and I’ll try and
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:54
It’s a fun place.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:45:54
Not geek out so much. Yeah. Yeah. Play it cool. Play it cool.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:45:58
Play it cool. Yeah. That that’s a fun place. We have so many people roll through it too. It’s it’s so interesting. Like, ai of a sudden, jelly rolls there.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:05
Yeah. Know? No. You guys did it, man. Like, you literally I think it was a Ron White that kinda started the, you know, the ai, and then all of you started to just march to Austin 1 by 1.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:15
He came here before the pandemic.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:17
Yeah. And
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:17
he was the one who put it in my head because, you know, Ram, I fucking love it here. It’s easy to travel. It’s I
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:23
can see what middle of
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:24
the country. It’s beautiful place. No traffic. People are nice.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:27
I just came back from LA, so the contrast is definitely you can see it.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:31
It’s so much better here. And it’s better for comedy. It’s just because it’s it’s the only club in the country that’s owned by a comedian.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:37
True. It’s
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:38
free. It’s ai you could beat yourself. There’s no executives or producer. Yeah. It’s just me. I don’t even have any partners. So wait. It’s just me.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:46
Excuse me? When you say that you mean ai, do people have to pay at other comedy clubs to perform there?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:54
Only when you’re very, very beginning, and it’s corrupt comedy clubs that you have
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:46:58
to pay
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:46:58
for stage time. Yeah. That’s that’s not normal. That’s something taking advantage of amateurs sai they can make extra money, so they could justify open mic nights stuff like that. But that’s not a lot of clubs. Most clubs, you know, it’s you have amateur ai. They all should have it but some we have 2 nights.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:47:16
We have 2 nights of open mic nights. Sai we we just wanna make it a real place where people can develop.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:47:22
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:47:22
From the very beginning, you could do your first set on stage ever at the mothership and eventually headline there someday.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:47:28
I’ve seen it. Ram Patterson, some of these guys, they start there. Now they just
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:47:33
Killing it. Yeah. Hard work. Yeah. Hard work. Just grinding that kid’s in that club every fucking night. He’s always and he’s traveling all over the place, all over town, doing different clubs
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:47:43
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:47:43
Going on the road. He’s, you know, he’s doing he’s making the most of the experience.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:47:47
And for someone like me, just a fan of comedy in general, it’s fun to see the process of them starting up and then because I sai I I used to listen to Kill Tony in my old job just so I didn’t go postal. I was just, like, sit there with my headphones in and the hoodie on just to hide it so they don’t know I’m doing that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:48:03
I’m just, like and then now to see where it’s become, and then, you know, where on the street is, they go, you know what I’m saying? Coming up, and I’m like, oh, shit. So it’s gonna be on there, and then it’s gonna be even bigger. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:48:15
It’s fun to see that, and I’ve seen a lot of comics, like, just grow. Mhmm. And then seeing the sets develop, all that kind of thing. And look, I know how hard it is now just watching that because you think, oh, I’ve made a joke before. I can do it. Nah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:48:30
And seeing people bomb on Kill Tony after just 60 seconds, I just, like, yeah. Nah. Fuck all that. I’d fight in front of millions of people with the stand in front of a crowd and try and make them laugh. Just that yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:48:44
It’s a weird kind of rejection.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:48:46
Thank you. That’s what it is. It’s terrible. Oh, shit. That didn’t land. Escape. Escape. Escape. This shit is just like that. Fuck this shit.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:48:55
But you also see other people can do it, so you gotta figure out a way to do it, and it that’s part of the challenge of it all. It’s why it’s so exciting to succeed.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:02
Yeah. I sai ai not guys, the expert.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:04
It’s hard, you know, but it’s also fun. I mean, it’s the most fun thing to do for a living, and you could do it forever, you know.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:11
You don’t you don’t
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:12
have to rely on your body being fit enough to do it. You know, fighting fighting is so unique because there’s a small window. You have from, you know, 18 to maybe 38 if you’re lucky or you could be a Yoel Romero and compete, like, deep into your forties, but he’s the rarest of the rare or a Bernard Hopkins, you know, world championship level at 50.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:31
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:31
Crazy. But those are the outliers. For most people, there’s a small window.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:35
Make the most of it.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:36
Make it In MMA, that window is the smallest. Yeah. It’s the smallest of all the combat sports.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:41
That even make it to the top.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:42
Yeah. Yeah. God. Think about how many guys have a amateur fight versus how many guys, like, make it to a just a world title fight. Just to fight for
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:49:52
a world title.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:49:53
Forget about defending the world title. Like, what you’ve done is, like, the rarest of the rarest of the rare and then win it back again. You know, it’s so rare.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:50:01
Yeah. Ai but I’ve seen people throughout the walks of life and gyms I’ve trained at that Ai, like, I think you’re better than me, but they just never made it. They never got the experience or the exposure. Also, when the lights are on, they shut down Yeah. And they don’t show up.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:50:16
I’m like, you’re better than what I than this. Mhmm. But again
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:50:19
Gym champions.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:50:20
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:50:21
Yeah. That’s a real thing, man. With people that perform so well with no pressure Mhmm. And then when that pressure’s on, they’re ai 30% of what they are. You see them make the mental mistakes, you see them rush in, and it’s,
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:50:32
it’s weird. It takes skill to learn how to perform under the lights, but also you have to have that thing. Mhmm. Like, you have to know you’re that guy or you have to have that belief in yourself. So, again, I’m glad I’ve done it, and I’m glad I’m doing it. But now I’m just like, I just wanna fight. I just wanna fight and have fun. And, again, it’s weird.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:50:52
Like, I just know that fucking gold belt always circles back around. I don’t chase it, never have, and I knew it would always be there at some point. But, yeah, it will. And in the moment, bro, if I’m not happy with what I’ve done in this game, what’s gonna make me happy?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:51:07
Right. Right. How could you be?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:51:10
Exactly.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:51:10
Exactly. You’ve you’ve I mean, think about how many times you defended the title, you won the title, you beat the greatest guys of your generation. Mhmm. How could you not be happy with what you’ve done already?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:51:19
But I still feel great. And, again, it’s this is you know, when, fighters talk about Ai lost the belt, I felt this pressure lifted, whatever. Ai never felt that when I lost it in MSG. I was just, like, I’m a fight this guy again, and I got it back. But then when I lost it, doctor Strickland, ai this last one is the only time when I was just like, Ai didn’t well, I wasn’t a champ, I guess, but when I when I this last fight was the first time I felt that, like, well but I still feel like I’m that guy because a lot of people will still have that target on my back because I’m Israel.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:51:53
I dishonor. But having to fight for the belt, having to fight, with that thing. I don’t know. This is the first time I’ve ever felt that where I’m like, meh, I’m good. So I’m just gonna see what happens, train, get better, and fight again at some point.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:52:10
Just concentrate on the task instead of this whole thing of the titles and
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:52:14
Yeah. Because I feel like when you have the title, there’s all the spotlight on you. There still is a spotlight on me, but it’s not the same thing. And now I get to enjoy a little bit more, like, almost freedom in in a sense. Ai, I’ve heard fighters talk about it heaps. So I again, for me, I never felt it till recently that I’m like, I get what they mean now when they talk about the pressure.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:52:35
The pressure’s still there, but it’s not the same. And I’m like, cool. I get to just fight for me now. I get to have fun. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:52:42
Just I wanna try some crazy shit. Like, I actually wanna fight and just do some I wanna go back to the way I used to fight when we didn’t have so much on the line because it’s not just about meh. It’s about the people that are around me that, you know, I have to not have to, but, you know, like, if I do good, everybody eats.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:53:02
You know what I mean? Mhmm. So now that we still do good, we still eat, well, it’s like, fuck the belt. We’ll just have fun. So I just wanna go back to having fun the way I used to fight when I was a young fucking schizo fritter who just did shit for fun ai the fucking Tavares fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:53:18
And around 1, I’m like, I’m a try a Ai roll and see what that does, and I kinda missed it. But, yeah, I’m gonna bring that back. I kinda wanna do that ai kinda shit again just because
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:53:29
So do you think that, like, as the stakes are higher, the pressure is more, and it just restricts your creativity? It restricts your ability to just be loose?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:53:37
It didn’t at first, but the longer you defend the belt it happened to Anderson as well. It happened to Anderson as well. I saw it because I watched Anderson’s rise, and I saw the even to the point where people wanted him to lose just because he was so great.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:53:50
Right. It was
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:53:50
just and then it’s just that natural thing where people build your hookers who wanna tear you down. Mhmm. And I felt that happened to me as well. They’re, like, we just wanna see him lose. And when it happened, they’re, like, yeah. And then when I won it again, it was, like, yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:54:02
And I lost it and, like, yeah. So it’s just natural. It’s natural way of, I don’t know, the mob of humans or whatever, the fans. It’s just how it is, the coliseum.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:54:14
Well, there’s always a bunch of people that don’t like that you’ve accomplished something they will never accomplish.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:54:19
Oh, there’s always them. They Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:54:21
And so they do wanna watch you fall because it makes them feel better about their lack of success.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:54:25
What did Dave say? Someone rejoices when a great man falls. Yeah. There’s a great quote he had in the specials. The cowards. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:54:32
Yeah. Yeah. That’s the truth.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:54:34
Yeah. Facts. I’ve seen it. Yeah. I’ve even felt it as well, like, where you’re just like, I wonder what will happen if he loses. Like, it’ll just shake the whole landscape of things up. So you just wonder. Like, I felt it, I think, with Floyd. So I just wonder not that I wanted him to lose because I I’m a big Floyd fan, but I was just like, what would happen if he lost this fight?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:54:53
And, like, oh, shit. And but that’s what makes it exciting. Mhmm. You never know. You know? But yeah. Anyway, I’m just here now, and I’m just like, cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:55:00
Let’s have fun. Let’s fight. Let’s just get some, you know, some good matchups. But, again, I’m in a spot now that we’ve got Rob comes up ai. DDP and Sean are gonna fight, and I can’t think of what who else
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:55:15
Is DDP and Sean set in stone?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:55:17
I think it’s not set in stone, but it’s what they’re looking at.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:55:20
Yeah. When is that supposed to take place?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:55:22
Next year ai, but I’m trying to get something in this year. So we’ll see. There’s already a few call outs, you know, here and there, but
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:55:28
Like who?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:55:30
The guy that just won in France, Sai forgot his name. Did he win the not the main event. Imanov. Yeah. He said something, and I’m like, we’ll see. It’ll be a good fight. It’ll be fun. But, again, what has he done? He beat Brian Brandon Allen. Mhmm. You know? And is that 5 round worthy?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:55:48
Because I’m I’m never doing 3 rounds again. All my fights are probably gonna be ai. If I ever do a 3 round again, fuck. Let’s go.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:55:55
Would you want to? Because, like, there’s some 3 rounders that I feel like we got robbed that it wasn’t a 5 rounder, like, Sayuki and Charles Olivera. That was a good Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:05
That was
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:05
a good example of that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:06
Scrap. That was
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:07
a good fight.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:07
I’ll be there live as well.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:09
Olivera almost caught him couple ai with submissions.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:12
Vatsal point.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:12
Yeah, man. And lost a controversial decision, like, very close decision. And then Ai feel like you give him 2 more rounds, who knows what would happen? Another one was, Khamzat and Kamara. Oh, yeah. That 3rd round, Kamara was coming on strong.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:28
Off the couch as well.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:29
Yeah. Off the couch.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:30
10 days
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:30
10 days notice. Crazy. Fighting at 85 Yeah. 170 pound champion ai off the title loss. Mhmm. And then, you know, 3rd round he wins and you’re ai, god. What would have happened 4th 5th?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:41
Yeah. That’s where some people come alive
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:56:43
these days. Especially champions.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:56:45
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can’t do 5, but, again, I sai 3. I just feel like I would fight like like a bat out of hell. I just feel like it would be different. But, again, it’s not even I I do enjoy the the time in the cage, but even training for 5 round sai. A lot of people would train for 3 rounds fights, but they don’t understand. Everyone wants to be champion, so you gotta train for 5 rounds.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:05
And it’s like, oh, shit. You gotta do this shit. You have 5 rounds of the spider circuit. Oh, shit. That’s where you find out the men from the boys.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:12
You separate. Sai, yeah, I do like a 5 round ai. And, also, you don’t get paid ai the round, so sometimes fights end like that. So Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:20
That’s up to you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:57:21
Yeah. So do you have a ai of, like, when you would like to fight again? How many fights you would like to have? Because I know you’re 35 now. Mhmm. How long do you think you’re gonna do this?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:33
I don’t know. Like I said, I thought I would be 34, and I’m done with this. I always just thought, like, yeah. When I’m 34, I’m done, but then I’m here now, and I feel great. So I’m like, let’s see. 3 more years. Who knows? Who knows?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:47
Fucking kid might come out of nowhere. I’m like, oh, shit. I’m done with this game.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:57:51
Is there any fights that, like ai, Strickland that you’d like to do again?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:57:55
Oh, yeah. Strickland and DDP. Strickland won definitely because that fight was not meh. And, again, I don’t make excuses. He’d it was just another Dave Chappelle quote. You have to realize when it’s your Cameron, he’s such a fucking philosopher with a day. He said something about, like, when it’s your time, you have to know when it and be humble enough to know when it’s someone else’s. You know what I mean?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:58:15
That was just his week. That was just his and everything, so I just, you know his time meh him have it, but I I definitely know what I can do. And I took his best shots, and I just know, like, yeah. I can take this guy. I I know what I can do.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:58:30
Ai not similar to the Pereira one where I, you know, I was winning, but this one, I definitely know what I can do with this guy. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:58:36
What did so was that one shot that cracked you in that first round that changed the whole momentum of that fight?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:58:43
Yeah. Straight punches, beat looping or linear punches. He caught me good. And then the moment, I remember thinking, like, oh, shit. This nigga’s hitting me. Oh, shit. He’s hitting me. And I went to Mark Gutter, ai, you see the picture, like, I’m okay. Right. And then even he told me ai next fight with DDP is, like, don’t do that. Don’t have to do that. Ai just have to find a way out.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:03
But it was hitting me, and I was thinking, like, oh, shit. This is really happening. Fuck. And I had to find out the position and just get back on him. But yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:10
How much damage did he do in that exchange?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:13
In that exchange no. Not really much. Just the one shot. The one shot was the one that got me, but the rest was just kinda ai nothing really got through. It’s just a lot of flurries, and it looked ai. But that’s why I was able to look at Mark and be like, shah. We’re good. But, yeah, gotta come back. I’ll see what happens with him and DDP.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:29
He could win, you know, beat him and then
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:33
We almost won the first time.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:34
Yeah. It was close. Very. It was close.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:36
Very close.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:37
Yeah. It was yeah. That was a a rough fight. Even at the end, they were just swinging. I was just
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:41
They had nothing left in the tank. Yeah. Like, you see Strickland’s, like, it was all arms.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:45
Arya. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:46
There was nothing in the tank.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:47
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
01:59:48
They emptied out.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
01:59:49
Well, we’ll see. We’ll see what happens in that ai. And, yeah, at the moment, I just I look, I kinda like the feeling of not knowing because sometimes people ask, who are you gonna fight next? When are you gonna fight again? I’m ai, I don’t know. I’m just chilling. Sai, again, I’m just gonna keep training and sometimes short notice shit happens.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:06
You know what I mean? And it’s like Right. Well, I’m already in shape. Fuck. Let’s go. Right. Yeah. But we’ll see. So stay ready. Yeah. Stay ready.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:15
Like I said, I’ve done the testing already, and I know where I’m at. After this, I’m gonna go get some work in. And, yeah, even on the road, I bro, I love this food there, but, fuck. I know when I get home, I’m gonna have to take all this off. I know it will come off because I’ve got, you know, good nutritionist now and stuff, but, yeah, I just try to stay ready.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:00:32
You guys don’t have barbecue in New Zealand?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:34
Oh, yeah. No. We Do you have,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:00:35
like, a Terry Black’s in New Zealand?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:36
Yeah. They have oh, just even the food there, I think the quality is different, but also Ai try to stay off Uber Eats as much as possible. Now I have Matt cooking for meh, so if I want something, I’ll see something on the reels. Matt, can you please make this? He’ll be like, yeah. Cool. Boom.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:50
And he’ll just make that ai.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:00:52
And you know what? We’re not gonna make shit in it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:00:54
Yeah. In camp, it’ll be healthy, but right now I can I can stretch my legs a little bit, add some cheese, whatever? But, yeah. I just stay ready. That’s the main thing. Just stay ready.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:01:06
Your ram, that city kickboxing Mhmm. Gym is what a fucking gym that is. Like, there’s so many killers coming out of that. Mhmm. And Olberg now on the rise.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:01:15
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:01:15
Goddamn. That dude’s good.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:01:16
Yeah. There’s so many poof. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:01:19
He’s so tall and dangerous. There’s so many good fighters coming out of there now.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:01:23
Even recently, we had Cam, Aaron To, and then Navajo fight on the contender series. Navajo was the only one to get a contract. He got it with a hook, actually. I don’t know if you saw that fight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:01:35
I didn’t.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:01:36
Yeah. Navajo Sterling. He, knocked out the guy in the 2nd round. So now he’s in the UFC. He got a contract, and he’s gonna fight this year, I think, in December. So he’s already encamped for his next fight because he was kinda fresh coming off that fight. So, yeah, he’s another guy that this is it. That’s him. Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:01:56
The guy in the red. Big NAV. Boom. And ai set him up. Boom. Boom. Out. And the guy I fought was tough too.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:02:05
Came strong in the 1st run, but Navajo was able to just put him away. Another king in the ring champion as well. I think he’s 2 time king in the ring champion.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:02:12
What weight is that at?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:02:13
Light heavyweight. Damn. That’s a big fella. So he’s a guy in my Miami fight with Pareda. He helped me a lot. Ben Johnston helped me a lot with the looks. You know? But, yeah, he he’s just a fucking savannah next level kickboxer, but knows how to grapple. He he looks at shit, downloads it, drills it, and he’s using it on you straight away or the next day.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:02:35
He’s just one of those ai, and he loves to fight. He’s a guy who just stays in the gym, stays ready. Like I sai, he’s got a fight already locked in. Even losses go to fight Ozdemir. He’s fighting Ozdemir in Macau. You know, what’s his name? No time. Yeah. Volker.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:02:51
Today, yeah. Volker Ozdemir. Oh, yeah. That’s a good fight. I like that for Carlos. Who else? Yeah. So I I like the gym, the way it’s growing.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:02:58
Even on the local scene as well, you have a lot of guys who are just coming up in the local scene, and they’re looking at us because of what we’ve done. No government funding, no backing from the the sports, what do you call that, New Zealand? They try to stifle us during COVID, you know, moving the goalpost, or you can quarantine in the gym. Okay? Now you can’t quarantine in the gym.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:03:19
We’re sneaking around ai to find places to train. They’re following us with reporters, taking photos, putting us in the papers, making us look bad. We’re disobeying the law. Think about your grandma. Yeah. All that kind of stuff.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:03:29
So, yeah, we’ve done it our own way, and we’re still I thought we’re still one of the best gym if not the best gym in the world. That’s why I’m there. Only reason I’m in New Zealand is because of City Kickboxing. If not for that place, I definitely would still be there to see my ai, but I would have probably moved all over the place.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:03:48
Like, Melbourne, I definitely would have lived in Melbourne for a while. Like, Melbourne, I love Melbourne, Australia. Canada somewhere
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:03:53
Melbourne’s great.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:03:54
Yeah. Melbourne. I just like the the culture, the food. It was here in Austin.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:03:57
Australia and and New Zealand just have such restrictive laws.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:04:00
Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:04:01
And the government has such control over people, and I didn’t realize it until the pandemic. Yeah. And then I was like, Jesus Christ.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:04:07
That’s why I gotta play the game, Joe. Yeah. Keep moving. I ai the games. It sai, like, it’s almost egotistical in the sense the rules are there for a reason, and I am a law abiding citizen. But sometimes there’s certain things where I think, like, the laws don’t doesn’t apply to me. You know what I mean? That’s why I don’t follow politics.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:04:31
I only ever voted recently in New Zealand because of the fucking referendum. They were gonna make marijuana legal. I was like, okay. That applies to me. I’ll vote for that. So that what do you call it? One policy voters or whatever? Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:04:42
The other laws and stuff, I’m like, meh, unless if it’s something crazy, ai, someone decides, oh, we’re gonna tax the rich 50% of their money. And I’m like, ai. That applies to meh. Then I’ll vote. So when I say the law doesn’t apply to me, it’s in the sense of, like, I don’t really care about what their policies are. You know?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:04:58
So, yeah, that’s how I live, and I’m able to travel a lot, which I’m grateful for. But, yeah, if it wasn’t for CKB, I definitely would’ve would’ve left NZ ai maybe traveled more, checked out Europe or, you know, shit like that. But right now, as I’m fighting maybe after fighting, I will, You know? New Zealand is beautiful. Oh, it is. Beautiful spot to live. I like the pace.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:05:19
I do like the pace. And, again, I like watching America and the rest of the world from New Zealand because it’s just, like, this little corner of the world just, like, chilling and just, oh, yeah, Kiwi, mate. Good day. You know? And then, yeah, just see what happens to the rest of the world, and we still get a lot of things happening culturally that are relevant to the world.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:05:36
But, yeah, I definitely wanna travel after ai, and I get to travel. Like, I’m in fucking Austin, Texas now, you know, talking to you. I where was I? After this, I’m going to New York. Ai. I’m sure I’ll be somewhere else on the planet at some point. But yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:05:50
What do you think you wanna do when this is over?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:05:53
So I have a plan in place because I know me. I’m an adrenaline junkie, so I know I’ll need something every like, maybe thrice a year where I feel like I’m gonna die. So one of my plans is That’s such a crazy thing to say.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:06:12
Ai meh it. That’s why I have
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:06:14
a McLaren and, you know, have, you know, never crashed it. Amen. But, yeah. So for me, like, I well, I skydived twice already in the last year. That was fun. So, again, if I said, okay. I’m done fighting now, then, okay, they’re running in the with the Bulls. Cool. Let’s do that, and I’ll just train for that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:06:32
And then when it’s time to I’ll go to Spain or whatever and get ready for that and then go run with the Bulls. Cool. That’s the yeah. That would be fun. It’s dangerous. You could die.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:06:42
Yeah. But that’s a dumb way to die.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:06:45
Yeah. Dumb ways to die. There’s many ai a dumb way to die too. But it’s a it’s glorious. Glorious. It’s a glorious way, but
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:06:54
Getting stomped to death by a bull is not a good way to die.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:06:57
Yeah. Well, I mean, what are the what do I have? So what’s another one? Okay. Let’s say I go to the Outback, go learn Ai don’t know, to jump on a crocodile and save it from some I don’t know. There’ll be something. I’ll find things. I’m there’s always something. I’ll find something to do that’ll make me feel ai, my life is in danger.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:07:20
You say
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:07:20
you feel like you’re gonna need that forever?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:07:22
Because if not, you just fall a lot of guys, they come back and fight again because they missed that, oh, you know, I was that guy. I was that guy. And those, especially, who never made it to the pinnacle of what they wanted to do, then they still have that dissatisfaction, and then they come back to try and reclaim that glory Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:07:39
Do it for less money, and then they fall short. They become journeymen, become alcoholics, drug addicts, you know, shit like that. So I I don’t wanna also, who knows? I my main thing, though, is definitely start a family. That’s one thing I wanna do after fighting. It’ll happen.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:07:57
I’m not I don’t go looking for that shit because when you do, you find the wrong thing. Mhmm. And I’ve made that mistake before. We’re not gonna make that mistake again. So I know it’ll happen for ram, and when it does, I’m gonna be a great dad.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:08:09
You can’t convince yourself that it’s good. You gotta it has to be good
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:08:13
relationships. Oh, yeah. Facts. Oh, no. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:08:15
There’s a lot of people that want a great relationship, so they talk themselves into 1. And then next thing you know, you’re with some ai going through your phone.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:08:21
I got talked into 1. That’s the thing. So now I know I’m like, okay. Meh. When I get in the beginning into 1. Oh, just, you know, when you when you fall in love, you just stupid. Because I’m such a lover as well. I’m so ai, but I learned my lesson. And, again, it’s one of those things you just have to go through, and I’m grateful for the experience.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:08:42
I’m grateful that I did, because now I know exactly what not to do next time. So that’s why I don’t look. I’m single because I just enjoy myself. I enjoy not being responsible for someone else’s emotional state. You know? Because she has a fighter. Because you know you know this.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:08:57
You know fighters when they have to deal with shit Yeah. Before a ai. Before the cost of fight, the shit I had to deal with. Oh. It was oh, my god. And I was quarantining at the gym as well. So that kind of stuff, I don’t wanna deal with. I just wanna focus on me.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:09:11
There’s a problem that girls, when they think that you are busy with something else and you don’t care about you’re not paying attention to them, they’re not your primary focus Gotta
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:09:20
be the center of the world. They get
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:09:21
very upset. I’ve seen guys where they’re they’re getting ready for a fight and their girl starts fights with them, like, as they’re weighing in, You know?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:09:29
Oh, you’re not that bad. At least she knew better, but still, it’s just look. It’s it’s more about also, don’t try and compete with your your your your husband or your boyfriend. With me, you’ll lose. It’s not ai in a sense, like, this is what I do for a living. You don’t have to try and compete. You know? Right. It’s weird.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:09:48
Like, when someone tries to compete with their their person or whatever, it’s I know.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:09:51
It’s nuts.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:09:52
Yeah. This is meant to be a partnership.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:09:54
Right. The intimate person in your life wants you to fail because they’re competing with you, and they want they wanna get over on you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:09:59
But thing is, what’s good for me is good for us. What’s good for you is good for us Right. If you’re a team. Sai, again
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:10:05
If you’re a team.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:06
I’m learning, and I’m not looking because Ai think that’s that ship sailed in the sense, like, when I look at someone, like, sai, even O’Connor with Dee Devlin, that’s fucking cool. I love that. She’s still with him to this day. They’ve got how many kids together. That’s cool.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:20
Regardless of what the state of their relationship is now, it’s like, look. She was with him when he was no one, and she believed in him. That kind of stuff is rare these days. When I see it in other people, I’m just like Right. There’s still love in the air, Joe.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:33
It’s still love in the air. It works.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:10:34
Yeah. It can work, but, boy, you gotta find the right person.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:37
No. They gotta find you. Yeah. I’m a I’m a look at yeah. I’m not looking. I’m just I actually got on Hinge the other day just for fun in LA. I was like, let me see. I hate these apps. I don’t use those. I ai to get on Ryan. They still have me on the fucking waiting list for fucking the last 2 years.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:52
I’m like, my Oh,
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:10:52
that’s hilarious.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:10:53
Well, I went on Hinge in LA just to see just to see what’s up, but it’s just funny. It’s just funny to see the experience. Ai couple interactions, it was cool, but I was like, this is what people do now. Ai felt like the questionnaire to get on Hinge. I thought it was gonna be, like, ai thing cool, cool, cool, put some pictures up. I’m like, am I trying to do adoption or some shit?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:11:11
I was just like, what is this, and what is your primary focus? And I’m like, I spent, like, 20 minutes doing the whole thing, So it’s up now. I still have it on in Austin. I’m like, ah, that’s
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:11:24
just for fun. Cast a line out there for the lows. Just for the lows.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:11:28
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it’s you
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:11:31
know, you have to protect your time. That’s the problem. It’s ai you only especially when you’re doing something like fighting, there’s the amount of time and dedication that’s required to be at your very best is insane, and there’s nothing like it. There’s nothing like it, even in sports. If you’re a basketball player, you have to play basketball, you have to practice, but you there’s a lot more free time. Yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:11:51
A lot more free time, and it doesn’t drain your body the way fight training does.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:11:55
The consequences is different. Right. Bruh. What it’s like after a game of rugby or whatever, cool. I don’t know how the the fucking the brackets work or whatever, even the basketball or football, soccer, but then you get to play the next day or the next not the next day, sometimes the next speak.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:12:12
You know? Fighting, it’s not always like that. And, also, if you get hurt, you get hurt battling. You suspension is 6 months and you have to wait. And then if you don’t if you’re not strong mentally, I’ve seen people break.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:12:25
Yeah. I’ve
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:12:25
seen them break, and it’s just ai, fuck. Come on, man. You can you’re better than this. So, yeah, for me, fighting takes everything. It takes everything, and I’ve done well in this game. And sometimes in the beginning, I didn’t give everything. So that’s why now that I’m at this age, I’m like, yo, give everything.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:12:45
So that way when I’m done, I just know I did everything I could to be the best, and I was, and I’m proud of myself. So I’m, yeah, I’m still here, man. I’m still yeah. Like I said, I’m not fighting for, you know, a belt or anything anymore. That’ll come around when it does, but it’s just I’m just fighting just because Ai I have bro, a submission is more worthy to me than a 3rd belt.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:13:08
Like, I’m gonna get that. Really? Yeah. I’m gonna get that. It’s gonna and Ai not gonna look for it. It’s gonna present itself, and I’m gonna get it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:13:15
And I’d be like, right. I take that off. Cool. Because I’ve done a lot of cool shit in this game. It’s more ai just the highlights, and I just know I can.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:13:22
So that’s that’s more worthy to me at the moment, and that’s ai a maybe ego thing or personal thing, but, yeah, that’s just me though.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:13:30
Do you have a ai on how much longer you wanna fight for?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:13:33
Like I said, right now I say 3 years, but I’ll be 38.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:13:37
That’s probably the end Yeah. Where guys can compete at the the high like Jared Cannonier got to, like, 38, 30 ai. He started to fall off a little bit, and the last two fights he’s lost.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:13:48
I think GSP stopped just around there as well. 37, maybe. 25 Bisping? Yeah. But who knows? That’s what I’m saying. It’s like, I feel I don’t think I’m gonna fight at 40. I don’t think I think that’s not me. I’ll be I’ll be nah. Even for me as a person, I’m like, nah. I’d rather be doing something else. But 38 right now is in my head. Who knows? Fucking 36, 37.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:14:10
I’m just like, right. Peace. I’m out. I’m spontaneous like that. But I think 38, yeah, ai. But let’s sai. 38. Let’s see what happens first.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:14:20
But at the moment, I’m still here.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:14:22
Do you have any thoughts of things to do other than things for adrenaline? Like like
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:14:26
Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:14:27
Like, things to do with your time?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:14:28
Apart from raising a family, production. I definitely wanna have my own production company and do stuff ai couple of acting things, of course, because they’ve already come up, and I turned them down because of this game. I was ai, you know, you have to give everything to this game. I don’t wanna spend 3 months somewhere filming Right. You know, this kind of stuff.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:14:47
But definitely motion capture, definitely wanna do that. You know, what’s his name? The guy that did the Andy Serkis, Planet of the Apes, Gollum, Caesar, he’s one of the best at it, and I I see the way he works and operates, and I I just I know I can do that. I can learn, and I’m very coachable. I can learn stuff like that. Voice over work with some cartoons or animes or whatever, video games, motion capture stuff.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:15:13
I’d like to I have more ideas of of of things I wanna bring to fruition, but I don’t necessarily have the skills. Even though I was doing computer graphic design for about 3 years, I knew how to make a red ball bounce in Maya, the 3 d program. That was my biggest achievement in that. But I can partner up with someone on studio and just bring my ideas to life if they like it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:15:33
Like, I don’t know. I’ll learn how to write a script maybe so I can present it properly. Also, fuck. All this shit with AI, I might just be able to do it with AI in 2 years and be like, right. Boom. And if it hits, it hits.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:15:46
If it sucks, cool. Do it again at the drawing board. But, yeah, sai lot of things a lot of things. I already have like, again, shout out to my pops. My my pops is is the is a real OG because he helped me just triple and quadruple my money.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:16:01
Yeah. Because if I didn’t have him, I definitely would end up as one of those sad stories. I feel just because of who I am as a person. I feel like I would’ve end up as one of those sad stories because of the trust I have in people. Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:16:14
So I’m glad I have my dad around just to, like, just make sure things are cool.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:16:20
There’s always vampires. Right? There’s always vampires.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:16:23
They do. It’s just human nature. Mhmm. It’s human nature. I’m sure you have it as well on the way up, and even now, I’m sure you have it as well. But they always they come out the woodwork, and it’s ai, let me see. But then my dad’s able to tyler, this is legit. This is shit.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:16:35
Oh, let me have a look at this first. He goes through every contract. I can read, but ai, because I’m dyslexic, I I read really slow or I just lose focus and shit like that.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:16:48
Especially contract shah. So that’s very difficult to really absorb.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:16:51
There’s no pictures. Ai. I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:16:54
need an anime contract. Ai me a fucking cartoon that explains what happens if everything goes wrong with me crying. Oh, no money. Oh, fuck. Or me living in a palace with a bathtub filled with gold.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:17:12
Yeah. Ai I just get, like, unless it it’s something maybe, fiction that entices meh, and I can really go deep. But, yeah, I like reading comics and shit like that, but a contract is just detailed. But there’s one person on this planet I trust that wants the best for me as my father.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:17:27
That’s a great thing to have.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:17:28
Amen. Because even I’ve said this, like, guys like Khabib, you know, rest in peace to his pops, he had him in his corner. Michael Jordan, he had his dad in his corner, you know, on the court. My dad is in my corner, but that’s on the stuff that really matters outside the cage in life.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:17:45
Like, I’m when I talk about impostor syndrome, I’m like, how the fuck do I have this many houses? Right. I’m doing well. Cool. I know I’m I’m adulting, but that’s because of my pops. And I learned the game through him, but the details of the game, I still don’t know yet.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:01
So after this, I’ll have more, I guess, input in the sense that, okay, this and that, and this is what this means and that, you know, with the property values and whatnot. I try not to get too much into it because right now, all I can focus on is this, ai, the main thing. If I don’t have this, then, yeah, I can definitely tap into all that kind of stuff, but now I’d rather just focus on this and let my dad handle it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:23
So, again, I’m I’m grateful, so grateful that he’s around, and he’s the one that’s helped me get to this point because a lot of people don’t even have their dad in their lives, you know, and I’m glad that I do.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:18:34
Yeah. Because overall, it seems like you’re in a real good place.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:38
Mhmm.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:18:38
You know?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:39
So yeah. I ram. Look. This is life.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:18:42
Yeah. You
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:42
know how it is. Ups and downs, smiles and frowns. But right now where I’m at, I’m in a good place, way better place, because, again, ai, people the thing I did, like, I appreciate it after my last ai. People come up be like, hey, man. That was a great fat last fight. Oh, you did well. That’s what I’m all. Thank you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:18:59
But when people come because I was at the buffet in Perth, and, some guy came up to me just like, hard luck, mate. I was like, what? Ai, he wanted to feel sorry for me. I was like, sai. Get your fucking shit off me. I’m like, I’m good.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:19:14
I’m like, bro, if you knew how much I made from this fight, you wouldn’t even you would feel sorry for me. But it’s that some people don’t know how to react, so they come ai, how
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:19:22
do you rooting for you, and, you know, they feel bad. And I know.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:19:26
But but I I want I like the again, I don’t fault them for it because they don’t know what to sai, but the ones that come up be like, bro, that was a mean fight, man. You almost had him, but that was a fucking good fight. I’m like, thank you. I felt good in that one. It’s it’s a different look on 2 different on the same thing. It’s ai someone will look at it with, like, yay. Sai I’m looking with that. But Mhmm.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:19:45
I’m in a better place because, again, this isn’t everything. Ai not everything in my life. I’ve lost many times of out of fighting, you know, and I’ve come back. I’ve lost in fighting many times, and I’ve come back. So for me ai now, where I’m at in life, I’m enjoying it.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:20:00
I’m enjoying the bryden, and, yeah, I look forward to the future. I look forward.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:20:05
There’s a thought that some people have that in order to be at your best, it has to be everything. Mhmm. You have to live and die by your performances. And when your performance sucks, you have to suffer until you get a good one.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:20:17
Nah. That’s not for me. I’ve been there before, and it’s not for me. Everyone is different, and I understand that when it’s ai because even when I was on top of the world, you know, like, number 1 and this and that, it never defined me. I never let it define me. I always knew I was Israel Ai before and after the belt. I’m still me.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:20:38
No matter what, they’re still gonna be trying to fight me because they wanna have Israel Adesanya on their record. You know? They wanna they wanna fight me. They don’t wanna fight the champ. Like, people will probably even pick a fight over me than DDP ram maybe not because probably easier fight, they think.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:20:54
But still, like, I’m me, and that’s never ever gonna change. That’s never ever gonna change as long as I stay true to me. Yeah. And I I look. If this game was gonna change me, if money was gonna change me, I would have done it ages ago, a lot a lot of zeros ago, but I’ve always been this guy with or without money.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:21:14
You can ask anyone who really knows me. They’ll tell you, oh, yeah. That’s the same dude I was dancing with back in the day. Still the same goofball. Keeps the same energy. But now that I’m here, I just I have a lot more freedom to do things that I wanna do than I’m grateful for.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:21:28
But, yeah, I even look forward to seeing who I become next year, like, who I evolve into next year. Because, again, I am me, but learning. There’s things I’m gonna learn about myself. I’m sure you have this as well. Jamie has this. We all have this. We’re just figuring out who we are.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:21:44
What are you now? 50
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:21:45
7.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:21:46
No way. Yeah. Yeah. Meh. So you’re still learning.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:21:49
You’re never gonna stop. You never stop learning. When you do, you’re gonna die.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:21:53
Yeah. Facts.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:21:53
Yeah. This ai life is an experience. It’s a long and people have, like, this number thing in their head. Oh, by 30, you should know this. Some people some people know. Some people don’t learn till they’re 40. Some people never learn.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:22:04
I thought I was gonna be married with 2 kids at 23. Wow.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:22:08
You could have been. Yeah. If you zig when you
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:22:11
could have zagged. Yeah. I’m glad I zagged. I definitely did. Ai glad I zagged for that one. That was so long ago, and I was again, I’m soft, bro. I’m, like, I’m surprised I’m fucking great at this this fighting shit. Like, I’m sai you ai you see some some idiot try to step me out?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:22:33
Do you ever see that?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:22:34
No. What happened?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:22:35
Some so this is, 2 weeks 3 weeks ago. I had a great great day at training, morning, went to the the the the the shop to get a pie, and I just thought, you know, people were just showing love. I’m just, hey. What’s up? So I’ll take a picture. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. And then one guy just pulls up and goes, yo, Izzy, let’s go. One ounce.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:22:54
I’m ai, And I thought, like, bro, this is stupid. I was ai What an ounce? What is that? One ounce and using that slang, like, 101, like, one ounce. Let’s go. And I was like, this is silly. Like, what the fuck? And I just started laughing, and I said, bro, I get paid 1,000,000 for this.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:23:08
I’m not gonna whoop your ass for free. And then he kinda go angry, and he’s stuck at the lights. It’s green. People are honking, driving around them, and I’m laughing walking away with my pies in my hand. Sai remember just looking ai, what the fuck?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:23:20
And I grabbed my car door. I went, and that pissed him off. Then he drove and then parked in front of my car, and I was like, okay. Took my watch off, and I told the guy, can you please call the cops? And I’m glad only one person actually decided to help.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:23:35
Did see the video of that. I saw just a small clip of it. I I didn’t know exactly what was going on.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:23:40
Just an idiot. But, again, I’m glad this is the day and age of people just, boom, cameras out. Right. Because everyone who was around, everyone got their cameras out. There was only one guy who used his phone to call the cops when I asked him because I didn’t wanna hurt this guy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:23:53
And this guy, I don’t know if he was going through something or he was maybe cracked out or something. Because even the guy the the video that came out, it seemed like it was set up because the guy kept on going. And the and I’m like, what are you trying to say? And I I I I’m glad. I I like I said, I’m soft. I have patience.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:24:10
And if I had a bad day, it might have been different. I Ai like to say that because of freedom of thought. But, also, my friend, you know, Falvakay, got killed by senseless street violence. This is something that we’ve talked about even in the film. It was something that we all had to go through because he got hit with a coward punch and then hit the ground, and then boom.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:24:31
He’s in a coma for about 2 weeks, and then eventually they had to pull the plug. As I’m talking to this guy, at one point, I go, bro, I don’t know you. Like, whatever has happened, I don’t fucking know you. I’m sorry. And he’s like, yeah. Talk to me nicely, bitch.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:24:43
Talk I’m like and I started getting angry, and then got to the point I spat at him, and now that was meh, like, I hoped he did something. And then I’m like, right. I’m taking this guy out. But then when I spat at him, he just looked down and kept on talking, and I ai, you’re not about this life.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:24:57
I’m not gonna spend the next 10 minutes talking and ai this guy. Elevates him in his mind that he Exactly. Oh, he took his shirt off at the end. I got in my car. I was driving off. He had his shirt off flexing, like, what, in, like, what, bitch? What? And I was like, no.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:25:09
This man is
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:25:10
cracked up. Oh, he’s a crazy person.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:25:11
So for me, again, that’s why I say I’m soft, and, I had to I had to really hold myself back. I I don’t know. I’m sure you’ve no one tries you anymore, of course. They’d fucking be stupid to try you, but I was thinking no one would try me anymore because back in the day, someone would try me. I’m like, bro.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:25:27
Bro, people were trying chocolate Dale in his ai, and he was a complete psychopath.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:25:31
Try that to that hooker. Dan would not have the patience that I have to have to fucking instantly demolish that guy. But again, I just don’t wanna do something. Because if you breached the line
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:25:45
Yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:25:46
I was within range and within my rights to strike him because I felt
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:25:49
And like what happened with your friend, if you knocked that guy out and he bounces his head off the curb, that
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:25:54
was what was going through my head. Yes. And also we started this charity, Walk Without Fear, and I I’m glad nothing happened. I’m glad I was patient because now that video can be used because we’re trying to change the laws. Look. The guys that killed my friend, when we were in lockdown, they were on home detention, So they’re free now.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:26:16
They’re walking free, enjoying their life, and my friend is dead.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:26:19
How didn’t get convicted?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:26:21
I think one of them did, but the rest of them, they had home detention. The ones that actually even helped, they got home detention, and I think for a year and a half. So 6 months of that home detention, we all did it together in lockdown. So what kind of punishment’s that?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:26:34
You get to sit at home and watch Netflix, and my friend’s daughter has to grow up without a father. For nothing? For nothing. Just because ego, alcohol, drunk, this and that. So ai, I’m glad Ai soft, and I I don’t like I don’t like confrontation.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:26:50
I don’t but when it’s time to get down, I will get down. And Ai Ai put it out enough, like, I I I wanna protect my boundaries and shit like that, but I don’t ever wanna be put in sai position where someone tries to set me up just so they can make money off me. But there will be a point if someone tries me enough that I will have to definitely defend ai, and there’s no fucking referee in a street fight that’s gonna drag me off of of a person in that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:27:13
I see red, bro. Not that shit. I’m saying that. I see red, bro. Is it the funniest shit? Not that shit.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:27:21
Bro, ai your own blood.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:27:25
I see red. You should see clearly.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:27:28
That’s a ridiculous thing. Blood. Yeah. It’s lovely. I’ve never heard anybody say Ai see red and it worked out well.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:27:35
But, yeah, I just yeah. I’m glad it worked out well for meh, and I I I spared a life that day, because if not, it would have been really bad, and then I might not be here. Right. I might be in a fucking cell somewhere.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:27:46
They might try to make an example out of you. They will. Yeah. Especially if you killed somebody.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:27:50
Wow. I know these these motherfuckers in NZ, ai, the bureaucrats, they don’t like people like me. They don’t like people like me who is outspoken Right. Who is not a quintessential Kiwi. You know what I mean? The guy that just keeps quiet and, yeah, you know
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:28:02
Follows the rules.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:28:03
Just very just very humble. Like, fake humility is something I’ve never been. Like, I know humble is or what it is for real because I Ai deal with that every day. Ai I fucking spot Carlos, Navajo. I grow with Dan. I get humbled every fucking day. So I know what real humility is, but for me to try and, like, let the world know I’m humble just so Ai seem like I’m humble, that’s that fake shit, and I will never be that.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:28:29
And when I see it, I cringe because I’m like, I know I know you.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:28:33
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:28:33
It’s like, nigga, I know you. We’ve done things. So So when I see people do that, I’m like, just be real, you know? So yeah. Ai try to keep it real as always. But again, like I said, I’m soft, but ai, you know
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:28:47
It’s a real challenge to be yourself with the kind of attention and pressure that you get.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:28:52
The magnifying glass of the world. And I I would never change. I’ll never not express myself the way I I always do, but sometimes the world is trying to put you in a box and be ai, this is this is what you’re meant to be. This is who you’re meant to be. Ai I’m like, no.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:29:06
It’s always weak people that
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:29:07
wanna do that. Bro, like, what was the one I put up the other day? Because I was I was there was a scene from ai movie. I was getting my nails done. I was, what was I doing? Some drip tips. And then I put a clip next to it where Ram goes, well, I’ve been wearing pink my whole life. Nigga’s been saying I’m ai.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:29:23
Bro, if you think I’m gay, bring your mother around. Bring your sister around. I fucking love that. I was like, yes. Because, again, I don’t care.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:29:31
It’s never been an issue for me. I think people would think because I never flexed my girlfriends or anything ai. They’re like, nah. Definitely. This guy sucks.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:29:39
Also, because I’m nice and I’m soft. That makes you sai. That’s hilarious.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:29:43
Being a nice person makes you sus.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:29:45
Yeah. Because I’m not a dickhead. Sai silly. But I can be a dickhead. I have been a dickhead in the past. But, again, I’d rather I was raised right. My family actually, you know, my mom and dad raised me with good morals. And, yeah, I treat people with respect when even if I don’t get it back, it’s like cool, whatever.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:01
But, yeah, people expect you to be this kinda because you’re off they’re when there’s, oh, meh, you’re a lot different than I thought you would be in person. Well, you’re not trying to fight meh, so no. You know what I mean? People expect you to be some type of way or, ah, I thought, you know Hard.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:16
Yeah. Or even an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look. There’s people you can find who’d be like, yeah. He’s an asshole. And I was like, well yeah.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:30:23
But who are you?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:23
Yeah. Exactly. I was an asshole.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:30:25
To you?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:26
Yeah. But you were an
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:30:26
asshole, so I had to be an asshole to get you to fuck away
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:29
from me. Facts. Facts. Yeah. And Ai I’m fine with that now. That’s because back in the day when I first came into this game, I always felt like I had to with every fan, I had to put on the song and dance. Oh, hey. How’s it going? Howdy. But sometimes I might be at a 4 or ai at energy level. So if someone pulls up on me, I’m just like, yeah.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:46
Cool. Let’s take a picture. But I don’t have to ham it up Right. To make them feel like this is a great experience. Oh, he’s such a nice guy.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:30:53
It’s like, bro, the day my cat died, I was I was pumping sai, and the guy tried to take ai tried to maybe talk to his cousin on the phone. And I said no, and he’s like, all good. And I felt bad, and I was like, give me the phone. And I’m there with the phone pumping gas, and I went, what the bryden, no phones.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:31:09
I’m, like, get the fuck away because I but I did that because I felt bad that he I didn’t talk to his cousin on the phone while I’m pumping gas. So what’ll happen if something happened and boom? Or what? Because I wanted to talk to this guy’s cousin on the phone because he saw me at a gas station while I’m pumping gas.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:31:25
So when I talk about protecting my boundaries, it’s just about time and place and approach, ai, stating people not. And I’ve I’ve put that out enough where I feel like people do respect it now, but some people still think I hate fans or whatever, but I’m like, that’s what you think.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:31:40
If that’s what you got from my message, then cool. You think that. But it’s about protecting my energy and protecting my boundaries. Well, I
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:31:45
don’t think they’ll ever understand what it’s like to be a person like you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:31:48
Yeah. Yeah. Be in the be in the spotlight.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:31:50
Yeah. And so, again, they feel like you have this advantage, this privilege that no one else gets, so they think that you owe them something. You owe them your time.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:31:59
I bro, I’m a fan. I pay for your pay per view. Right. Right. Right. You know? You’re just talking shit. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, the ones that is when it come, bro, I better on your ai, ram. I’m like, yeah. Fuck your multi. Because again, I put my life on the shit. Every time I step in there, I put my life on the line, but they will never understand that. They’ll come and tell me, like, yeah, bro.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:32:18
One time this is years ago, and the club a guy showed me a betting slip. I was, like, end? This is after a yawn fight. He showed me a ai. I’m, like, cool. Like, what do you expect me to do? Give you a refund?
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:32:30
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:32:30
He’s, like, nah. Fuck you. So I can’t remember how to respond. Yeah. Do you think
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:32:34
I wasn’t trying to win?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:32:35
If you ain’t got it like that Yeah. Don’t put your money up. Right. I only gamble with money that I’m I’m gonna lose or I afford I can afford to lose. But, again, yeah, I’m a fucking gambler with my life.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:32:44
Right.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:32:45
I’m trying to win, and then something back could happen. I’m not here again. You know? Sai, yeah, people are weird, and I love people. Like, I always say this. There’s something about every group of people on this planet that I love, including my own, and there’s something I hate about every group of people on this planet.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:33:07
Just little things little things that just annoys me. I’ll sai, like, okay. Nigerians, I hate how the elders sometimes confuse respect with fear because that’s how I grew up. Mhmm. They confuse speak with fear, and I’ve had to deal with that. You know?
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:33:23
I’m not gonna say anything else about anyone else because they know it’s like, oh, Israel hates these people or whatever. But, again, I love people, but at the same time
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:33:30
They’re taking advantage of the fact that you’re being respectful.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:33:32
I love me first.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:33:33
I know what you’re saying.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:33:34
I gotta put me first.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:33:35
Yeah. You have to. If you don’t, nobody else will. Facts.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:33:38
No. Yeah. Have to, bro.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:33:39
Well, listen, brother. I think the way you handle yourself and the way you communicate and the way you’re honest and just you could be yourself, it’s a great example to other people, especially young fighters shah are coming up and trying to figure out how they’re gonna manage this.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:33:52
And if they get ever be so fortunate, they get to a position like yourself, you’ve got you gave them a little road meh, you know, and I think that’s that’s a that’s a beautiful gift to give people to under an understanding of how an intelligent, sensitive person deals with this crazy position in life.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:10
Thank you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:11
That actually hit. Thank you so much.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:12
For real.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:13
Nah. Yeah. I can say the same about you. What you’ve done, everything from day Dawson’s Ai met you that you don’t remember, and I’m glad you don’t meh, to now even being friends with you. I like being friends with you. And, also, I don’t because you still have a job to do, and I never wanna put you in a compromised position.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:30
I always still have to respect you and what you do, and I still kinda keep my distance a little bit, but I always respect and appreciate every time that we’ve interacted or hang out and, you know, who you are as a person. So thank you. I appreciate you, brother. Brother.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:45
Thank you.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:45
Love you, man. You’re the fucking man. Let’s go. Alright. Let’s wrap it up. What else? Watch Ai. I’m watching
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:52
Watch it. Apple TV. There it is. Bang. Beautiful.
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:55
Awesome.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:56
Alright. Thank
Speaker: Israel Adesanya
02:34:56
you so much, man. Ai appreciate it, brother.
Speaker: Joe Rogan
02:34:58
Thank you. Bye, everybody ai.
