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Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen to watch the fights on October 26, 2024.
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Fight Companion – October 26, 2024 Podcast Episode Summary
In this podcast episode, the discussion revolves around several key topics and themes. The primary focus is on a businessman known for his deal-making abilities and relentless drive. The conversation highlights his stamina and dedication, as evidenced by his ability to engage in a lengthy three-hour podcast without taking breaks. This anecdote underscores his commitment and work ethic.
The episode also touches on the role of media and public perception, particularly in the context of Tucker Carlson’s podcast. There is a mention of how people often react without understanding the full context or nuance of a situation, which is a recurring theme throughout the discussion. This highlights the importance of critical thinking and the need to consider multiple perspectives before forming opinions.
Additionally, the episode features a guest who is a former intelligence agent, possibly from the Navy, who shares insights into significant stories and events. This guest’s background adds depth to the conversation, providing a unique perspective on current affairs and media narratives.
Actionable insights from the episode include the importance of perseverance and maintaining focus on one’s goals, as exemplified by the businessman discussed. The conversation also suggests the value of seeking context and understanding in media consumption to avoid misinterpretations.
Overall, the episode emphasizes themes of resilience, the complexity of media narratives, and the significance of context in understanding public discourse.
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Fight Companion – October 26, 2024 Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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I was actually thinking about going to Abu Dhabi for this one.
Yeah. I was thinking to go on as a. On a vacation just for. Just for funds.
Yeah. But then I found out it was 19 hours on a plane. I was like, oh, yo, that’s too much. I’ll do 10.
Even with a bed, it doesn’t much rather do this.
It don’t matter, man. You lose days. You don’t lose a day. You lose days because your days in a fog after it’s over, you’re all confused, your body feels weird, your workouts suck.
That would be the card to do it though. There’s one card that would give me to fly whatever it is. Night is the main and company.
Yeah, the co’s big. The co. So many questions in that fight, man. You know, can whit if Whitaker can stuff. You remember the third round? Kamaru Usman won the third round.
Yep, yep. I. I would have my money on him. And the, the thing is he had 10 days notice, so he didn’t have any trust in his gas tank, you know, and he talked about it, you.
Know, they offer them five rounds. He said no. And then when he’s walking out of lockdown, goes I up. Should have done five.
He’s like, I fucked up. Should have done five. You know, 10 maybe. It would have really psychologically him realized he had to do 25 minutes against Hamzat, who’s in top shape, but he was, he was getting tired in that third round. And that’s Hamzat’s thing. He tries to get you out of there like that, that he did to Kevin. Like, you can’t.
There’s no way he could have continued that if he didn’t submit him first round. When he just jumped on him, he went all in, just foot on the gas. It’s like an electric car. There’s 260 miles of range. No, it doesn’t.
Not that pace is about 100, bro. You take a Tesla, run a racetrack, those are burnt out after like two laps.
I mean, I don’t know how many laps you could do, but there’s no way you’re going to do 260 miles, is there?
Like an indie for Teslas. Like a. No, like NASCAR thing.
But they’re therapy car you can buy. If you want to buy a car from a lot. The fastest car you could buy is a four door like luxury sedan.
Yeah. Well, they do things around tracks.
Nitro cross has electric.
They wouldn’t do it just silent in.
Like Florida or in the South. They would have to be like in Seattle.
Tesla, NASCAR and San Francisco.
The whole thing is so crazy because even though. Yeah. It is the future. Yeah. It’s a superior technology. The reality is they’re getting their minerals from fucking China and they’re using cobalt mines in the Congo. Like the whole thing’s crazy.
The whole thing, you can do both. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
Right. But what I’m saying is like to connect that with like this is the most ethical, this is the most environmentally friendly. It’s not.
They’ve kind of stopped doing that because they got educated. Yeah.
Not only that, do you know that like the environmental pollution from an electric car is significantly more than the. Because of brake dust. Like brake dust is a giant problem. Everybody wants to talk about exhaust fumes. If you live in New York City, you’re breathing in brake dust all day.
What’s the difference between brake dust from a Tesla and like a gas powered car?
It’s a heavier car, Way heavier. Oh, so Tesla’s better because Tesla has regenerative braking. So when I’m driving my Tesla, if I let off the gas, it slows down like considerably. Where I don’t even have to use the brake sometimes if I’m driving around town. You could do one pedal driving because as soon as you let off the gas, it slows itself because it regenerates electricity during that process of slowing down.
So it uses the momentum of the car to extend the battery life so you don’t get as much in it, but it’s still so heavy.
Do you think like in 20 years, like Teslas are going to be like $1,500 in the recycler or something?
No, because you know what? They’re already eating car.
They don’t do good on what they’re.
Saying is electric cars. The way cell phones remember, you have to carry a big thing like a big cell phone. So the idea is, yes, it is not environmentally very effective and all that, but it’s in its infancy and the idea is you want to keep doing it. So there’s a breakthrough in material sciences with Incentives.
You have a wars but you’re still getting mining. That’s never going to go away.
But they’re the technology of electric cars is the future in terms of as they get better at it.
Well, this is the thing. No, he’s. He’s totally right because there’s a bunch of experimental battery technologies that they’re currently working on that are going to be so much better than these Lithium ion. They need less.
Yeah, we’re. We’re in the leather. We’re in the leather helmet.
What if it’s like robots? Like mining the coal?
It’s fine. What if they turn on us but.
Then the slaves make the robots.
Hey, we’re going to have that. No, we’re going to have that. So when does it end?
You need, you need oil to make the robots 100%.
Every piece of plast we use is made with oil.
With AI. The idea is you’re going to have robots and those robots will be on a piece of land. So you’ll buy the plot of land and those robots will then mine the materials needed to build a house. So they’ll use the actual land that they’re on to mine all the materials to make.
That sounds so far away Docs. That far away robots ain’t the robots I got now. Come on.
No, Eddie. It’s all artificially intelligence. When artificial intelligence becomes sentient and they have quantum computers now. Brian Cox was here the other day and he tried to explain.
Trying to explain quantum computers for me. They’re. They’re so insanely powerful. From cern. Yes, they’re so insanely powerful that they, they don’t even understand what they’re doing. They think.
They’re pulling information from different universes simultaneously.
That’s what I’m talking about.
It’s the multi world theory of quantum computing that they can create wormholes. There’s. There’s evidence.
Wait, wait, so, so wait, so they’re quantum computer is picking up information. It’s like different dimensions.
They don’t even understand exactly what it’s doing. But this is the way he explained to me. I hope I’m not butchering it. But some insane amount of time, like all the seconds that the world has ever existed. Plus you would need that to. For a computer, a normal computer to solve a problem that a quantum computer would solve in one sector.
We have, yes, they, they have quantum computers, but they don’t exactly know how to program them. Now I think.
They’Re making computers and they don’t know how to program them.
This is what it is. They’re so complex that they want to develop the infrastructure. The computer is very small, which is really crazy.
Let me get money to finish this. Let me guess.
Settle down. The actual chip? Yeah, the actual chip is very small. It’s like a tiny little. It’s smaller than this, the actual chip. The whole rest of the thing is insane cooling. Because in order to operate this, you have to keep it at an unbelievably cold temperature. Like, colder than deep space.
Yeah, yeah, it’s. You should see it. But pull up something on it, Jamie, just so they could see, like, the explanation of quantum computing. It’s a real thing, Eddie. Is much bullshit. I know. Computers are a real fucking thing. You know, you see, the reason why you find all this shit on YouTube that doesn’t make any sense is because computers are a real fucking.
People can make videos, they compress them, they upload them online. So this is computing. It’s all a real thing. Quantum computing is this. But it’s through an insanely powerful source.
And I can’t get service in my fucking.
This is. First of all, there’s only a couple of. On Earth, they’re very difficult to make. Insane tolerances and super expensive.
Right. They got it unbelievably, I’m sure, I’m sure.
They’re completely. The companies that are making them, not the taxpayers, I highly doubt. There’s probably. There’s some subsiding.
Have you seen, like, I don’t know if it was the Cox guy or whatever, but there, there, There’s a video. Like, they’re in front of that big cylinder in CERN and they’re talking about, we’ve discovered 10 dimensions. We. We’re gonna discover an 11 mention. But we need more money.
Yeah, they do need more money. How do you. What do they think it’s for free? You think you make a quantum computer in your backyard? That’s where DARPA lemonade money.
You don’t feel like a little like. Like.
Listen, the whole thing’s crazy because what they’re gonna do is make a life form that’s way smarter than us. It’s gonna happen. It’s gonna happen soon. That’s crazy. Yeah. Literally, we’re marching towards our own demise for sure. There is no way that’s not gonna happen.
And if good guys can get it, bad guys can get it too.
That’s the issue 100. And they might be getting it quicker.
What if this is already a computer? Like what if we’re already in a quantum computer?
Well, that’s what Elon thinks.
But I don’t understand only rich people. Computers program is awesome. Yeah, they’re getting their dick sucked flying.
Around single mom of four at McDonald’s and like we’re in a simulation. Billing. Or say we’re in a simulation.
No, what if. What if we’re already computer creations that are creating.
We are in a machine, though. I mean, it’s so obvious. We are in a machine.
The Matrix. And we’re already star. Like a better version of our machine.
Right. We’re in a clock. We’re actually in a clock.
The sun regulates the day. The clocks go to the stars and the sun and the moon. The moon’s 28 days. Apparently we’re supposed to have 13 months. And we used to have 13 months.
No, we used to believe. No, he’s right. No, he’s right. First of all, what he’s saying about the machine is real. That makes sense.
Now think about October. What does Oct mean?
Why is it the 10th month?
Using Latin on me right now, bro.
That bro. Cherokee candle calendar.
Traditionally defined as a lunar calendar marked by 13 moon cycles of 28 days. Well, that wouldn’t. Does that work?
It does work. There’s an extra day. And that day is like the ides of March is supposed to be the first.
Why didn’t we do that? That’s so much better than one month.
One month has 28. Exactly. Right.
By the way, the moon has a 28 day.
Do Black History Month on the one month with only 28 days. Like, settle down.
This is a great fight, Petrosian. This dude. This dude throws kicks like everybody else throws punches. Yeah, Shara Bullet’s so weird. Like even you watch him training. It’s a non stop kicking thing.
Did you see him train with that Nina girl?
Yes. See, it makes me think though, watching him train. Because everybody thinks that kicks wear you out. I think kicks wear you out. If you’re not used to throwing kicks.
Coming out of his shorts.
No, that’s not his bush, bro, is it?
No, that’s gonna have to pull him to the side. Y.
Some of those dudes, like those Russian wrestlers that have crazy hairy backs.
You know those Dudes, that should be illegal. Wild crotch hair. Wild. Oh my God.
But he looked awesome when you.
Props to that guy, man. I’m. I’m sad that he’s now out of the ufc, you know, that they kind of forced him out, but did they? Props to that guy. Yeah, that guy stayed like world class for a long ass time. Even after he wasn’t the best because.
Remember he lost a fader. He’s doing well. Did that weird flying.
Got knocked out if he didn’t and.
Still, still revented himself.
That guy’s never going bald. That guy is never. Dude, look at the hormone, bro.
He was. He was fedor up. He was tuning him up on the.
Feet and then did that weird flying.
He fucked up. But everybody forgets how good Arlovsky was in his prime, bro. He had a laser beam of a right hand. As he got older, his punches were more late. Probably shoulder problem.
And him had the most boringest fight ever.
But yeah, it was very boring.
Isn’t that crazy too that you fought him like how many years after he started? Think about that. He was a champ in what, 2005? Yeah. So 20 years ago he’s a champ.
But he first time he fight, we were like in our 20s probably, and.
And then take it. And then taking on Young, you know, I was a young line.
And he took on Francis. Yeah, he took on Francis when Francis was. Yeah, it happened.
Do you remember, do you remember how you partied after the crow cop fight? Do you remember that night?
I went and got chicken wings and went to my room and threw up.
Okay, so you can go party.
I was in so much pain because my nose got shattered.
Isn’t that crazy that people don’t even think about that? But a lot of the guys who win still get concussed. Even the guys who win by knockout. You think, oh, he won by knockout. He must be fine right now. Like, no, he probably, probably almost got ko’d himself.
You ever see that fight with Ramon Deckers? Ramon Deckers fought this dude and they both left hooked at the same time and both knocked each other out.
That was in the end of Rocky 3.
It’s real in this, in this kickboxing. Ramon Deckers, one of the best ever, my favorite kickboxer of all time because he was such a fucking psychopath. Look at this, bro. They both just cranked one off. He was the exact same. Oh yeah, yeah, Monster. Look at this. Boom. I think the other guy did.
I think Ryan Simpson got up first. He got up first, I think. See, he wasn’t totally out. Like, look, when he goes down, he catches himself. But.
But Rob came. Or. Excuse me, Ramon Deckers didn’t.
Well, wait, what way did he fight at you?
Well, he started off light. See, that was the thing. He was one of the only foreigners that went over to Holland and was fighting ties. And he was their size.
Do you know. Do you remember that?
That was from Holland. And he went over to Time.
Those dudes up and. With a violence they had never seen before, like a psychotic violence, The.
The Holland mob hired me to move and live.
To train Ramon Deckers to fight mma.
Yeah, that’s right. I forgot about that.
And then the mob. The mob boss got thrown in jail, and then they canceled the plans. I was ready to head to Holland.
I was gonna move to Holland. He was telling me, he’s like, bro, it’s gonna be awesome. I’m gonna train those dudes. I’m gonna give them some killer Jiu jitsu. It would. Hey, let’s get the clock going, because Shara Bullet.
So 458, 457, 450 or 455, 54, 453, 452. All right, sync it up.
Sherbet’s fighting with one eye.
He’s such an exciting fighter. He’s one of my favorite fighters. His ceiling. I don’t know, because of his wrestling.
It’s a huge. This is a big move up.
It’s. Well, he’s not a brown fight. That’s not his thing. He’s really a karate guy, but the way he throws his kicks is nuts.
Karate guy from, like, Dagestan or something, right?
It’s not like Muay Thai style. I mean, he can do all. Oh, yeah, Petrosian’s good, man. This is what I’m talking about. Really good.
Really good. Really good.
Muay Thai and fully complete. He’s a complete guy. What is the Armenian super strong?
Sounds like Russian army. He better be armed, you know, an indestructible head. But when he gets hit with shots, because of all that here, he’s got caught twice now.
Yeah, it does look worse.
Way worse, because all that hair.
That’s a very good point, because you.
Just see, it looks like the burning Bush.
But Petrosian’s super solid. When I. When I saw this fight was being made, I was like, oh, that’s a real test.
Yeah. And, like, good defensively. Big dude for the weight class. These guys are so big. It’s so crazy that how big 185 is now. Wild, dude. They’re so big.
DDP. I was trying to tell Brian. I’m like, dude, DDP is different animal.
Anthony Smith is. He was like, 235. He’s 205.
This is 85. No, 85, though.
No, they’re huge, too. Yeah. 205 has notoriously been big. 85 now, to me, is the biggest kind of leap as far as big guy. They’re huge.
Izzy ain’t small either. Strickland ain’t small.
Robert Whitaker’s no punk.
What’s. What kick is he the most famous for?
Throws. He throws everything.
Is it, though? Wheel kicks.
He throws everything. Wheel kicks. Action kicks. Roundhouse kicks.
Someone’s getting knocked out, bro.
Petrosian’s landing, too.
Yeah, but he’s coming after Petrosian. He’s really hit the gas. I love his look, man. Like a pirate. So crazy.
You know he played a bad guy in a movie in Hollywood recently.
Oh, what a great casting. They’re gonna cast Poet on some movie, too. I heard he’s a bad guy in some movie. I think it’s just. Yeah, I’m hyped for these guys. Imagine if one of these guys becomes the next rock.
The next, like, John Cena.
That’d be sick. Like, you telling me Conor McGregor couldn’t become an action movie star?
Dude, they’ve asked him to, and he keeps turning it down.
He still wants a fight. Does he wants a fight? And he also wants a party. Yeah.
I love him. He can do no wrong.
He looks like he’s having a good time. Time, yeah.
As he should. He doesn’t know here he did it.
A good time can be if he just got clip.
He got cl. That left hook. Who got clip, Pat? Yeah, Petrosian did.
He. He’s been clipped a few times now.
But look out the way he throws his kicks, it’s so different. And he can throw so many in a row, too. But Petrosian is rock solid, man.
I wonder if that hair is actually a bit of a shock absorber.
That was stupid comment, right?
That’s so dumb. Somebody hit you in the head with a big head of hair.
But I think the beard is. I mean.
No, just the hair. All that hair.
They used to think that in boxing. In boxing you used to have to shave your beard.
Yeah, for golden gloves. They made me shave everything. I couldn’t look more Mexican. I just had a mustache.
But even if it’s like 1% right, it can make a difference.
At this level, it does not matter.
It doesn’t matter. Especially a tight.
Let’s see how a crazy ass wild man beard. Like one of them dudes that lives in the woods for 10 years. Just like a thing.
Psychologically, it feels.
Rick Rubin beard. Yeah. Maybe like if you get hit with an uppercut, I would say a Rick Rubin beer would protect you quite a bit.
Maybe you. You stopped your punch thinking you’re hitting him. You know how you aim and maybe it cuts.
Are you talking about somebody? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
You’re pulling your punch.
There’s his face, but it’s an illusion. I didn’t go all the way through.
He’s lighting him up there, dude. I’ve been pretty hard on homs, you know, because his. The hype kind of fell off, dude. The longest covet ever. And then he had an interview with Brett Okamoto and you’re like, oh, side.
Yeah, bro. He does everything, man.
Then he has that interview with Brad. He talks about how he’s been depressed and he’s been constantly moving and dude. And he has a kid. You’re like, oh, this is a normal dude. Yeah, he’s calmed down because he had a kid and he’s been going through a tough time. He’s camp. He didn’t have the same camp.
His kid has had two surgeries. He’s gonna have one second surgery after. Yeah, after the fight.
And they’re like, what’s going on? He’s like, I was depressed because he gets tough. Making my family move every month.
Why do they have to move all the time?
I don’t know. I don’t know. But you. And then. And then you saying that that’s why he wants to stay and fight. You know, people give him about not coming to America. He’s like, my health when I fly it me up.
Which I don’t think that knows what’s real.
Here’s the story on that dude. Supposedly you can’t kick him out of the gym, he’s the most brutal over trainer. Like, that’s the story on him. And then he’s just like such a psychopath that he’ll train even if he’s sick.
You see the Olympic wrestling?
Pretty fucking impressive. Yeah, dude, really impressive hanging with those guys. Yeah.
Yes. He’s a beast, dude. What he did to Rockhold was disturbing. It was disturbing. Like, Luke Rockhold, he’s not in his prime, but Luke Rockhold was a fantastic graph.
Who you guys talking about again?
Hamza. Oh, Hamza rolled with Luke Rockhold and just ran through him. Okay, Ran through him. Armbarred him. What else?
He hooked him. That’s crazy. Yeah, but just ran through him. Just dominated him.
He’s a banshee. But the only thing. I would not touch this as far as betting if I were going to bet it. I put money on Whitaker just because there’s so many variables. With Khamzat, his best heavyweight win against Murshark. He’s never really beat a true middleweight. And then you’re going from fighting welterweights. He beat a blown up Usman, struggled with that struggle with Gilbert Burns, and you’re fighting Robert Whitaker at 3.
Well, I still want to see it.
Oh, no, no, I’m not saying no. I’m not saying no. I’m saying I went, bet on it. I’m saying there’s too many unknowns.
Like, that was like one of the first. I think his first fight was at 85, and then I think it’s 170s. Unstoppable. But I just don’t think you can really make 170.
Did you see him on the scales for this?
He was the last one to weigh in.
Max looks very thin, too. Max looks real drawn.
See, I don’t like Max at 45, especially at his age. I like him at 55. But the thing with Max, you know, so he’s been going on this war path. After losing Volkanovski, they asked him what changed? You know what he said?
Sparring. Remember? He was the guy that goes, I don’t spar. They go, what changes? I start sparring again. That’s why I’m knocking out.
You gotta spar, you gotta spar. Unfortunately, he was the one guy.
I’m like, oh, man, maybe you don’t have to. And then you’re like, all right.
I wonder if Sharp would lose all his power. You shaved his beard I think there.
Were some other guys who decided to go the knots barring route.
Mitrione did it for a long time.
Mitre was the first of it.
A lot of those guys started talking about that.
Donald, didn’t Donald do it? I think Donald did it. I think Donald did it for a while. You know what?
In. In football, the equivalent to that not sparring is not really going hard in preseason. And the Browns didn’t fucking play anybody in preseason. They didn’t take any chances and they got walloped the first six.
Yeah. So now it’s like, damn, we got. We got a spar in preseason.
And that’s when you feel it, bro.
Everybody needs to get those diamond MMA cups.
Those are compression shorts. With those, like perfectly fitted cups, you could take a literal nutshot.
Yeah, man. They exist. Not only that, here’s the thing. You can wear a tie cup. You can wear a steel tie cup in the UFC. You’re fighting in the UFC, you 100% wear a steel tie.
If someone kicks you in a dick, it breaks their foot. The leverage with an armbar lever with an arm bar is insane. And also, like, if you get on top of them, you could shove that thing into them. It’s gonna start wearing one.
Just cuz for podcasts and everything, you.
Can get one like you. They hurt, man. They hurt with whatever you’re pushing it up against. It’s a piece of metal.
What does it do? It’s a. Like a. It’s a house. It held into place.
You tie it through your ass like a male stripper.
Yeah. It’s super gay. I’m getting super good.
I want to wear one for discipline, clean.
But you have to make sure it’s really in place because if it slips and a nut gets pokey out, then you’re getting a steel slam. I had that happen with a plastic cup once. Yeah. My nut got pokey outy a little on the side and I got kicked to the nuts and the plastic cup slammed into my nut.
That happened to. It was Gilbert Ivel and vanderlei Silva in Pride 11.
And it’s nuts. And it was over. They had to put up. Take him out in a stretch.
I never wore a cup in football or fighting.
I remember that fight. I remember so many pride fights.
It was over. It was like he wouldn’t like. Usually you get hit in the nuts and you need five minutes Max or whatever. This time there was no coming back. His night got caught on the side of the dude.
When you look at those old Pride fights, that might have been the golden years, that might have been the best of the best. The Savages.
There was so much good about it. There was so much good about it. First of all, it was the first time we ever got to see MMA in giant places. Like there was no UFCS that were in 90, 000 people.
Remember Hanzo versus Sakuraba Pride 10? Oh, yeah, dude, I commentated that dog. It was, it was like 150 degrees. I was in a suit and it looked like I jumped out of a pool.
And how many people were there? It was a.
Yeah. Like, I don’t know.
I don’t know, about 80, but it was, it was insane. Yeah, that was when, When. Sock. Sock, dude. There was so many classic matches. Guy Mesger vs. Vanderlei Silva. Gilbert Ivel, when he knocked out Goodrich in one kick, he just. That was one strike in the fight. They came out and Gilbert Iville just said he could pull right to the head.
That was it. Wild left, high kick.
And Gary Goodrich was laid out, knocked out for like five minutes. And when he woke up, he, his, his sister was his personal trainer. She was a yolk chick. And he woke up and he told me this goes, dude, when I woke up I thought, and you know, he’s from Toronto. He’s from. And he goes, when I woke up, I thought I was at a rave in Toronto. That’s what he told me.
Gary Gooder. Maybe he was. Yeah, maybe he was like. Maybe he got hit so hard that he got knocked into a parallel dimension.
And maybe he thought his sister was some chick he hanging out with. He didn’t even know who his sister was.
Maybe that’s real. It’s like you remember when you.
Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about.
Remember back when you had cable, when you had cable and there was the dirty channels?
And you could tune into them, but they’d be all like up. And every now and then you see like a couple of seconds of some girls boobs and then it would go away. Maybe that’s what like getting kicked in the head is like.
And then finally you just give up on it. You’re like, after like a half an hour, he just waiting for the shots. Like this. It’s waste. I’m wasting in my life.
Yeah. When Rothwell knocked me Out. I was like climbing a ladder. I went to a different plan. And just climbing ladders.
Yeah. My hands were twitching. Like climbing.
It’s the weirdest thing when you get hit really hard and your legs just stop working. It’s the weirdest feeling. Like that’s why, like, nerve knockouts. Like a good left hook to the jaw. When someone gets clipped and you see that nerve, it’s like it’s every. It’s the weirdest thing, man.
Like, you have no control over it. Like, there’s one thing when you’re hit and you’re hurt and your. Your body’s crumbling. You get you taking shots, but the. The hit to the chin is like weep.
It’s an off switch. Someone just goes by.
But you’re conscious. Yes, you’re conscious. You’re conscious. Like, you can’t. You’re not. You didn’t even get hurt real bad. Like, I got hit way harder before than when I’ve been dropped. But you get hit, like on the top of the head or you get hit somewhere else. But I got hit on the point of the chin once and my legs.
Dude, he threw a spinning a back fist, then reversed it and threw another spinning.
Tony Ferguson did that once. But he did it the same way. This guy changed directions. Unless I’m. Maybe I’m wrong. I remember it.
God damn. I talked too much.
He’s. He. By the way, his gas tank is ridiculous.
Well, he has to have one of. He kicks as much as he does. Damn.
He was for sure. He’s like. He’s not even that happy. He’s like, dude, that was tough.
He’s like. I got like, okay, so we go boom. And then change directions. Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about.
No one’s ever done that before. No one’s ever done that before.
Look at the accuracy, too.
This was good. Too accurate. Wow.
Dude, that’s Kung fu theater right there.
That’s wild. And the dude just put his head down.
That’s going to be a highlight forever, right?
Amazing. That’s crazy. Wow.
And you know what? Tony Ferguson did it to Rafael Dos Anos, but he threw it and then he kept spinning and then he threw another one. You know what I mean?
Same direction is just thinking of Rafael Dosandos. Remember when he broke his foot when he’s supposed to fight Conor?
Yep. That’s supposed to go down.
He was kind of favored to win.
How do you do, Jamie? He fought Jeff Neal.
Nate Diaz. Remember, Wasn’t he, bro?
He was a beast. When he was the champion. He was. First round TKO.
Jeff Neal knocked him out. First round TKO. He’s older, you know, 40.
Yeah, yeah, he’s older. And I believe he only has one.
ACL, and that’s also, I think, damn near his 40th UFC.
How do you remember all this information? Like, do you. At night you spend an hour going through and watching fights again?
I just give them pop quiz. Your memory can’t be.
Your memory can’t be that good. I’m done all the time. It can’t be that good. So you gotta watch it.
Remember 2 minutes and 30 seconds of round four. He hit him with a jab. And like, how do you know this?
It’s probably the same way. You know conspiracies and you’re just into it. I watch YouTube.
His knee goes out, I think. Oh, like I just said that. I think he’s got no ACL.
I think he’s got a bad ACL.
Could have been 55, right?
Guys tend to give him problems. Oh, his legs up.
And. And RDA is the nicest guy. When I was fighting over in Brazil, no Brazilian. Let me work out in the gym. Nobody would help me. He get. He would take me, drop his daughter off at school and then take me around, get me food, take me to his gym.
The nicest guy in the world.
That’s crazy that I said that is. I think he has no acl.
There’s a couple guys who fight in the UFC with no acl.
It’s the craziest thing to do. Justin Gaethje has won no acl.
Who was the first guy? Do you remember the first guy?
Rico Rodriguez. Like, what. What are you doing? I have no acl. Heavyweight champion of the world, FC heavyweight champ.
But the quad thing, you can’t fix. You can fix the ACL thing. We just need to go through a surgery.
He wrestled, but he wasn’t.
He was an early John. Jacques Machado.
Yeah, he’s. He’s a Jiu Jitsu guy.
His big boy Jiu Jitsu was nasty, savage nasty. He’s a.
He’s a wrestler. Because this is in the 90s and when wrestlers came into Jiu Jitsu, everybody was a white belt and a blue belt. In the 90s, every that was. There was one purple belt per school and there was one American black belt. Craig Ku Kok in. Remember Henzel’s guy? Teacher purple belt, American purple per school.
Everybody was a white and everybody was.
Steve Maxwell was one of the first American black belts.
Yeah, Greg was partners with.
Hence the guys that came in with a wrestling background. Like Rico Rodriguez. He came in and he wrestled this whole life and he went like him and this guy named Seth Goodall. They’re big dudes who wrestled. They as blue belts. They went to the world championships.
Rico was an NCAA championship champ.
Rico Rodriguez, I don’t know who was that kid that would always come to jiu jitsu at 10th planet when it was Legends. At Legends when he was a. Like Eric, crazy wrestler, super powerful.
I forget his name. God, he has so much potential.
This guy was. We used to do neon stomach drills. Rico Rodriguez. What is say?
No, nothing. What about his wrestling? Okay, he did adcc.
So he was not this dude I’m thinking about.
It’s Eric, right? Eddie, wasn’t it?
Yeah, this dude Eric. We used to do neon belly drills. This is when I realized like what the difference between like a really strong wrestler is. I couldn’t get up if he was on top of me. I wasn’t got not getting up. I tried so hard to get up. I could not get up. I was in real good shape. I was a brown belt.
Could not get up. Every Jiu Jitsu school owner wanted. Wanted that were they’re all looking for.
Wrestlers because they already had switched positions. So when I got on top of him, he just went. I just went flying. I had pretty good top pressure. I Pretty good. You talking with head and arm and you got a knee on belly. Yeah, I have pretty good top pressure. I was just like, this is crazy.
You know another person who made me feel like that? Carl Parisian. Oh, yeah, yeah. First time I rolled car, I was like, this is ridic. You’re a chimpanzee, bro.
Oh yeah. Jake Shields. Same same thing. Same thing. Yeah, but Cara was freaky. It was because it’s like, why are you so strong? Like, because it’s. Judo is the craziest thing. You’re literally throwing bodies all the time.
You’re hoisting people up in the air and slamming them, and you’re exploding on your feet and tripping each other, and they’re explosive. Oh, my God.
I remember. I was with. I was rolling with you guys and Tarek and Jake Shields. We were all together, and I was. I mean, I’m in the mix, you know, and the.
Yeah. The idiot. And Jake. Jake didn’t know me, and he was like, this guy. This guy might has a podcast. I don’t want him to. Like, what if he gets position on me? He, like, you know how you. You ever see one of those steamrollers with the. When they splash the pavement? It was inappropriate. It was.
Oh, yeah. Jake goes hard.
Oh, my God. I was. I was like, I can’t do anything. I was making noises.
I was going, well, you should be up, and you deserve it. But also.
But also, how much do you weigh right now?
You deserve it, Brian. You really deserve it. You deserve everything that comes your way. Yeah. You train once a decade and you get in there and try to roll with Jake Shields. You deserve. I would do the same goddamn thing to you. I hate people like you.
I still train twice a week. You. You don’t deserve to roll.
I’d smush you. I’d be happy to do. Well, that’s a different thing.
You ever think about having a. Like, like, in the studio? Like, a room for, like, a band to play or to do jiu jitsu?
I have thought about. No, not a jiu Jiu jitsu. We. We always. Could. We have the full mats out there. You’ve seen the back gym.
It would be cool. Like, show me a move and then you have mats and you have camera.
Bunch of guys come in and train.
Here all the time for the podcast, is what I’m talking about.
Well, I thought about doing something like that, but then I think, like, some things just for yourself. Like, when the Rock came here, worked out, I said, hey, man, all this social media, let’s just hang out. Because it was me and phone down and the comedians. So it was, you know, Brian Simpson was there, Shane Gillis, Tony Hinn.
Those guys working out with the Rock is like, Brian, Derek.
Yeah. Derek Poston was there. Asana Mod was there. We had a good time. You know, it was just. Just hanging out. Like, sometimes just hang out.
But it’d be cool to have, like.
Don’T have to make it a business.
Like a band. Like a band play.
That would be how cool. That would be dope. But do I have time for that?
You don’t have time? No. To have a band on your podcast and then they get up and sometimes.
But I like it when people just play. Like when Gary Clark Jr. Comes here and just plays. Like Everlasting. No, Everlast. Have a DJ with him once. Yeah. Everlast came with a dj. Four or five guys during the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you set up, like, just let them set up whatever they want.
So you can do it on ideas. Trying to get you more views, man. We know you’re struggling.
We refuse to let those podcast go down in flames. We’re not gonna do it.
The most hilarious thing, when I first got to Spotify, I was willing to do it for two reasons. One, because it was a ton of money, and two, because I wanted to be, like 10% less famous.
I was like, wouldn’t that be nice?
Did that because people like, are you going to go into obscurity? I’m like, great. Yeah. You’ll be like Howard Stern. No one’s going to. Perfect. Perfect. Give me the money. I got other interests, man. Man.
Were you at all nervous for Trump?
I was definitely hyped up. I was excited because I wanted to. There’s a lot of questions I need to answer.
No, no, no. Not pressure. Pressure.
Mean, like, make sure you cover everything you want to cover.
No, no, no, no. Just, like, I knew what was important. Did you not care for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you ask him. But also pro vaccine.
No, I didn’t. But I also wanted to be rigid because there was a moment where he brought up the polio vaccine. I was like, I don’t want to correct him. I like when the. Have you ever seen the chart of when polio actually dropped off? When the vaccine was introduced?
It’s all bullshit. Yeah. That’s a rough one. That’s when you look at the actual. Like, there’s a bunch of them. Measles is Another one actually happened. Exactly. And I don’t want to get involved in a podcast where there’s a lot of shit I want to get to. I want to know what the fuck is in the JFK files. Did you know?
I didn’t see that part because I.
See there’s a lot of people that are still alive. And I said, okay, so that’s why you wouldn’t Release it. Because some of the people that are gonna be implicated are still alive. So what that’s saying to me is that the government was involved.
But I said that, and he kind of, like, danced a little.
No, he just, like. He’s real good at. You ask him a question and he starts to answer it, but then he takes you on a totally different route. But you gotta bring him back in, but you gotta be respectful. So it’s like, I knew that that’s the way he does it, but I’m like, I understand what you’re doing, sir, but let’s get it back to what I was asking you.
That did that a couple times.
I want to know what that first day is like. And I don’t think I really got that answer out of him.
I don’t think he remembers.
I think he does. What I’m talking about is like, this feeling of, now you have to appoint 10,000 people, and now you have to figure out how this machine works when you’ve never governed at all. And they don’t show you any of that when you’re running for president. It’s not like a training program like, hey, Brendan, you might be president, so we’re going to show you. This is how deals get made.
I like what he said about John Bolton. He said, yeah, he’s a whack job. But you know what was cool about him? When I went to fucking Iran and I had John Bolton, they all knew.
He was ready to drop bombs. He’s called him a whack job, but.
He had kind of. That kind of mindset. You know, the problem with the Trump stuff is just that the people look at the inflammatory things he says, the crazy shit, and they define it by that. But you also can’t get. Remember, this is a very bizarre combination of an entertainer and a businessman. So it’s an entertainer that, like. He’s like a comedian, man.
He says, funny. He does it all the time. He’s always. When he makes fun of Biden.
New York. He’s very New York.
The nicknames he gives to people that they have to be fun. Yeah. If they weren’t. If it wasn’t funny, he wouldn’t use it. Like, Tampon Tim.
People don’t know what to do do with that.
And they want to pretend that all these other people are somehow another, like, morally better because you don’t get to see the real them. Like, I don’t buy that. I don’t think you should either. I don’t think that’s how people really are. I think. And when you see over and over and over and over again the media manipulating things and lying about things to make him seem way worse than he.
You should be suspicious.
You should be the reason why they’re doing that. Exactly. They don’t want to lose that job, but they’re in desperado mode now.
Did you have a different perspective after? Like, go like, you don’t know him well, right?
I don’t know him at all, but I never had a conversation with him other than, nice to meet you, sir. And he complimented me. I said, thank you. You’re really good at this UFC stuff.
But after. But after three hours, did you have a different impression of him or no?
Yeah, well, I mean, he’s a businessman, bottom line. He likes making deals. That’s what it is. Like, that’s his whole thing. And he’s. And he’s got this ability to just keep going. This is what’s crazy. Like, the podcast is three hours long. The guy didn’t pee before the podcast.
He didn’t pee after the podcast.
Maybe even more Diet Cokes than me.
But he didn’t drink anything during the podcast.
He just sat here. We. And we talked, and they were freaking out out there because he was two hours late for something he was doing in Michigan. He didn’t give a. He’s like, I know this is going to be bigger than that. Let’s just keep going. We did three hours, but at the end of it, he’s, you know, I don’t know him other than the three hours that I talked to him when he was trying to be at his best.
And Kamala Harris has not said yes yet.
She hasn’t said no either. People keep saying, she said no. I said I would have a conversation with her like a human being. That’s all I want to do. That’s literally all I want to do.
I want to know what is it like to be. I don’t even give a fuck about all the stuff she’s talked about, about policies and all these different things. We know her position.
The crazy thing with Kamala, she would be.
She would be well served to step. Yeah.
No, she’s not, because she can’t do it.
I would be willing to talk about anything other than politics. I don’t give a. I don’t give.
Like if there were some certain things they didn’t want to talk about, like, fine, I don’t care. Let’s talk about. I want to know who you are. Yes, I can find out who you are. If we could talk about sports.
It’s crazy how they. They. She does interview after interview and they’re just like disasters. And you would think that because she was.
Study interviews and just like, it’s a up way to talk that no one’s used to doing. Here’s the way it is. Here’s a question. Give me an answer. And you’re like, well, I think that it’s not a conversation. It’s not a conversation. So it’s a weird. So you’re uncomfortable with your words and you’re trying to get it out.
And you realize millions of people hate you. I don’t think you should be in that position in the first place.
Begins to answer a question with, I’m glad you asked that. Thank you for that. I’m like, oh, my God. Asking about the 20 million illegals coming through the border, unvetted. I’m glad you asked that.
She steers her talking points.
She steers it back to, I’m a middle class. I come from a middle class family. I like small business businesses. It always back to the same.
And groceries, they go, what about inflation? And then she goes, you know, it’s everything. You’re right. I’m glad you asked that question.
Gas, everything. Families are struggling. And then. But no plan.
There’s no. I need to hear what you want to talk about.
You would think our handlers would go, this is the plan. When they ask you about inflation to say, we’re going to do this and.
We’Re going to do this. I’m telling you, the way. The way they’re doing it is very unnatural. And if you take a person that clams up, up when they have to talk publicly and you put them in unnatural environments, you incite all kinds of anxieties. It’s a terrible way to communicate.
I don’t think this would go better for her. I just don’t think it’s her thing.
If she gave it and you’re it up for me. Maybe.
Maybe Kamala could sing or something.
No, I think if someone, you know what I mean?
If she could sing, sign her to a bad boy record contract. You know what I mean?
I think that company is going out of business. You might want to do some Research.
The stock of bad boy right now. Whoa, bro.
Dudes are doing Kamala ads and moving to Europe.
Yeah, people ask that. People always are tripping on the baby oil, right? With the Diddy thing. They’re tripping on the baby. Like a thousand bottles of baby oil. I’m like, yeah, there’s probably about a thousand people at his parties, right? And everybody.
That’s wild boy, bro. Yo, imagine. Imagine a Diddy party with no lube. Come on, man. Come on.
I bet he doesn’t even. I bet Diddy’s not even gay. I bet it just. He really enjoys guys just so he said he them. Yeah, it’s a power move. I bet it’s a gay, though. Crazy. Yes, it does. Crazy drugged up power move.
You know, it’s not a headlock.
Also filming everybody and having dirt on everybody. Like it’s a crazy organized crime. But that makes you think, like, is this guy doing it on his own? No.
Like, who’s above this? Is that.
But is that the case? Is he doing it on his own? Of course, but maybe he is.
He’s not. Also. It’s funny, the celebrities coming out to sport. Kamala, you’re like, what the. Are you.
All of them moving to you. You’re like dancing. Yeah, we love Kamala.
Beyonce came out last night. She was all like, yo.
When Americans see like somebody who’s a billionaire support. It’s like Beyonce. Most people don’t have anything in common with her. So when that happens, it doesn’t usually go anybody that.
Any celebrity that comes out and they probably went to parties. You know what I mean?
Probably just think it’s really weird to ask someone who lies for a living what they think the president should be. That’s a lot of actors. They’re just professional liars. The whole. The whole thing they’re doing is they’re pretending they’re someone else.
And you want them to be super sincere when they tell you who to vote for. Oh, I believe it’s time.
The fact that they keep pushing that Trump is Hitler and he promised to.
An undefeated. He’s putting it to him.
Murphy just lit up Barboza, undefeated kid out of England.
I was super impressed with Egate taking that fight on zero days notice against. Against Diego Lopez, because Diego Lopez is a straight up killer and they had a great fight.
Dio’s there tonight. He’s the alternative.
Diego Lopez combat jiu Jitsu World’s veteran bro.
He’s good, he’s good, he’s good. Diego Lopez is dangerous and he’s so wild. If he could just get a little bit more calculated and com. He simply hits the gas so hard. But he’s such a killer, man.
Topurious and he wins the night. He wants to fight Muck O Mak.
If, if Bala loses a shot, which is going to happen in December, Shafcot wins out, then mov’s going to go up to 170 and challenge.
Unless there’s a rematch between Bal and Shavkat. I mean, what if it’s a crazy fight?
I highly. Well, it could be a crazy.
Two people sleep on b saying that Joe, I think he’s a.
No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying Mak shop caught such a super fight, they’re probably going to push that towards the queue.
Yeah, but I mean you got to get past ball and what’s his go to?
He’s a striker. Really good striker.
He got up pretty good too, but he gave his back.
A motherfucker over here.
E solid everywhere too. He’s solid standing up, he’s solid on the ground.
What is he Mexican or something? E. What is this, Hawaiian?
He could easily be Mexican.
And he’s super technical too. Like everything he does. Like very smart, very polished and just tough dude. Tough as Murphy’s up when he knocked Andre feely. Ooh.
Real close. Real close. Fight decision. Yeah, real close.
And he took on literally 25 minute notice.
Literally. He was getting massaged after working out and they want to fight tonight. Yeah, grab your mouth.
He had a weigh in at 163. That was the agreed upon way because he couldn’t obviously he can’t cut weight the day of the fight. And so Diego took three different fights at three different weight classes. He took 45 with Brian Ortega. Ortega said he couldn’t make 45. Diego made 45, said it’s going to be at 55. He said, okay, I’ll take 55. And then all of a sudden Ige says 63.
He’s like, okay, let’s just do it.
Gangster dude. What if Max Holloway wins tonight?
He can win 100. He can win Max Holloway. You cannot doubt him after that. Justin Gaethje fight. He’s so clever and he’s so wily and with all the sparring now that we were talking about before, which I think is a giant, I mean, he said he sparred for the Gaethje fight. Much more. He goes, I had to be a crash test dummy.
I don’t think he’s ever been put down.
No, he’s definitely knocked out.
Yes. Justin Gage dropped him.
He’s never been knocked. Knocked out.
No, he’s never been knocked out, but he’s been dropped. Justin was the first guy to drop him. He hit him with a right hand.
Max claims he did it, though.
Max claims he didn’t get dropped. Yeah, no, no. He talked on the podcast. He said he got dropped. Yeah, he goes, oh, he dropped me. Yeah.
Yeah, we were talking on the podcast after.
He’s never been knocked out, B.
No, never been knocked out.
Hit him flush there, sat him down.
You guys got nasty ground. A pound too.
Oh, this might be it. Yeah. And he.
39 seconds to go. Oh, dude, you gotta cover up. Keep moving. You’re undefeated. You’re undefeated. You’re undefeated.
Oh, but he’s still fighting.
30 seconds is a long time, isn’t it?
But if Dan E doesn’t put him away here. Oh, here we go. Now we’re moving now. Things are changing.
I. I think doing that main event with Topia, people forget his. His natural background is grappling wrestling.
Oh, take down. Look at this. Still got the Kora though.
Got the Kamora. Oh, he let it go, Georgia. Oh, no, he didn’t.
Look at that. He still has it.
Wow. How about Murphy? Getting out of that, though.
Not. Not just getting out of it, but putting him on his ass. That was. That was awesome. That was awesome.
Yeah, I like saying it’s 45, right, Jamie?
45 is big too. Yeah, Big boys, everybody. The game’s changing.
You look at Marab. The fact that dude makes 135, that’s bananas. Like he probably doesn’t need. I know, dude, but he’s so thick. And when you’re around that guy, he’s a. Yeah, he’s a.
Yeah. Oh, Alain Was a little too big. I like him at 45.
Yeah. I mean, that Calvin Cater fight was like, holy, dude.
Calvin couldn’t do anything to him.
He’s got the best back control, maybe in the game.
Yeah. You know, that’s fair.
Alain Sterling, what he did to Corey Sanhen, like, his back controls. Insane. Back control is pretty nasty. That’s what they call back.
Danny E. With the stiff left. Boom. Oh, my goodness. Mouthpiece out and everything.
I hope Kamala says yes. Three hours, I hope. Settle in who you really are in three.
I don’t know if she’ll do three hours. They probably want to do, like, an hour.
You’re gonna get 22 minutes.
22 minutes with bullet points.
You know, it’s like no one knows who these people are.
Get into her favorite sexual.
I think someone out. Didn’t that call her daddy girl? Didn’t they start talking about bedroom stuff?
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. You son of a.
But really, reverse cowgirl on New Year’s Eve and fourth of July. That’s my favorite.
Well, she does. She gives good cooking tips. Ever see a good cooking tip?
Does she? What does she say?
Tells people use beef tallow.
She’ll probably be like, no, no. Seed oils are the best. They’re getting a bad rap.
Beef towels, too. Right wing.
Just stick with the ultimate.
All that stuff is industrial lubricant that they tricked us into taking over. Butter.
My favorite is canola oil. Like, oh, we’re drinking. We’re eating corn. It’s corn. No, it’s really from a plant called the rapeseed. And you ever see what it looks like when they’re processing it?
Seed oils being processed. It’s like you. You look at it, you go, how can you make anybody eat that? I heard Jamie show me a video of seed oils being processed. Yeah, I know these.
So beef tallow is number one, or is there. Is there other kind of chicken tallow? Is there chicken tallow?
What’s the difference between beef tallow and ghee?
No ghee. Is it like no ghee.
But there’s, like, people have rendered fat. Like, bear is a really good fat that people render to cook in, believe it or not.
Yeah. Pig fat. Lard is pig fat. Yeah. Cooking in animal fat is the best way. Also has the highest smoke.
So you know what that means?
It’s got to be rendered. They take it and they cook it. So they take these giant vats of fat and they cook it and run it through a filter, and then they fill jars with it. And that’s what Tylo is. So it’s rendered beef fat.
Do you. Have you ever heard of regenerative farms?
I’ve had a bunch of regenerative farmers on.
Yo, I went to a regenerative farm like, a month ago.
So this is how they make the seed oils. So this is like, they’re just smashing these fucking disgusting seeds into pellets and the guests to go through this process.
And that’s what people cook.
It’s gross, man. And then they turn into a cooking oil. Meanwhile, you’re not supposed to ever be cooking in that.
Is flaxseed oil bad for you?
I don’t think you people are cooking with that that often. It’s like, avocado oil is very good to cook with. Have you ever High Smoke Point?
Have you ever seen that documentary, the Biggest Little Farm?
Yo, you gotta watch the Biggest Little Farm, dude. It’s like, it’s a farm. It’s 100 regenerative. It’s way above organic. No pesticides, no nothing. They use animal, dude. They got, like, this balance, this ecological balance. I went to it, like, a month ago as.
In Moorpark, you can buy regenerative, like, from eggs.
Watch. Watch. The Biggest Little Farm Trust.
Fight is really good, boys.
This fight’s really good. Murphy’s really good, man.
He looks good on the feet, too.
Oh, looks very fresh. He just hit him with a 1, 2. That’s the thing. Like, E really burned off a lot of gas trying to finish him once he hurt him.
Oh, Joe, did you watch Francis’s fight? Yes, it was good. When he took him down, I went, brilliant.
Yeah. Apparently that was their game plan all along.
Yeah. He has takedowns well, he won against Gone. I mean, he out wrestled Cyril Gone with one knee.
Oh, did you see that takedown? He took homie down.
That guy’s a black belt on the bottom.
I’m thinking like EG might have hit the gas too hard in the first.
He’s on his back now. What the. What rank he. Murphy.
Dude, he looks. Oh, everything changed now. But he got a triangle. Look at that. Can he finish it? All he got to do is pull the head down. If he pulls the head down and he’s got a decent triangle, it’s over. He’s got to just pull.
Nothing. Okay, Nothing. All he’s got to do is pull. All he’s got to do is pull his belt.
Some moments to adjust. You almost did right there.
But he could still in the middle. Oh, he moved the arm over.
Oh, dude. Another minute would have been different.
How about MMA where the next round starts in the same position?
That’s what I’ve been saying.
How hard is that? If the round ends and you’re in the mount.
Why would you want people reset fights all the time.
Why would you give the striker the advantage of standing up? Why? Because you never earned it. You were on your back at the end of the round because everybody grew.
Up watching Bruce Lee fights.
That’s so stupid. Because should it’s one fight. It’s not five fights, it’s one fight. So each round should start where the last one left.
The problem is because if you have a jitsu guys, you can get finishes. Especially if he’s in the mount. That makes sense. But then with predominantly grappling UFC now dominating, those guys just start and guard and you get 25 minutes of this. Dude.
What about. What about boring ass striking? That. That happens too. There’s boring guard work, but there’s striking for sure. Why? I think, I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s.
They don’t want either. They don’t want either, but you’re sure as not going to get a finish if you always start on the ground.
The finish rates go way, way down.
I don’t think that’s true, guys. Ground and pound finishes would go way up.
Sure. Jamie, bring up how many submissions compared to how many TKOs or knockouts in the UFC, it’s not even.
Instantly have stand ups and then each round starts standing up. Of course, it’s Going to be.
It makes the UFC grappler heavy, and they want striking.
That’s the last thing you want.
Whatever happens, happens. It’s not like it shouldn’t favor either side.
What’s a business, though, Eddie, now that.
They have different gloves?
Okay, you talking about business? You want to talk about business? Okay. When the UFC blew up, did it blow up for the striking, or did it blow up for the grapple?
Striking. Stephen. Stephen.
Fighter 1. Okay, hold on. Let me finish this.
I gotta finish this, please.
How old were you in 1994?
Exactly. So what I’m saying is the UFC exploded in UFC 2.
No, UFC exploded off the Ultimate Fighter 1.
Listen, listen, relax. In UFC 2, it was huge.
Not even close to what it was, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no. Without you. Don’t. You weren’t even alive. You. Okay, you were. You’re 11. Okay, let me. Let me. Let me help you out. UFC 2 exploded. Change the world. And then it went underground once they pulled it from cable, and it went underground. You got into it when it was underground, but it was huge. There was billboards in Hollywood for the ufc. It was giant. You know why?
It wasn’t because of the striking. We always had striking. There was already kickboxing, There was Muay Thai, There was boxing. We already had striking. The UFC.
UFC 2 blew up through the stratosphere. 11. Because of the grappling.
They were like, what the Is this submission?
Because of the submission. We already had boxing. We already had kickboxing. It wasn’t doing. Boxing was big, but kickboxing wasn’t doing. UFC 2 exploded because of the grappling, and then it went underground. It was too big. UFC 5, that was billboards on Sunset when Hoist fought Ken Shamrock.
That was massive. And then they. They pulled the plug on it. UFC got canceled. The ufc. Hold on, relax. He liked.
The UFC got the plug pulled on it.
And it went underground. They thought it was dead for five years. And then the fertidas came in, and then that was the resurgence, but it was already massive.
Nowhere near is what it was.
To change the world, Eddie.
You gotta let other people talk to.
It was still something that was like most people and like, most of the, like, casuals had no idea about. They called it human cockfighting. And they didn’t watch it. Remember, it was.
That’s how it got canceled.
No, but what I’m Saying is you had to rent it at the store the way you’d rent a porn back then. And it was. It was like. It was considered barbaric. There are all these things. So the people that love fighting triangle again.
We all watched it, but not other people, you know, and it was.
It was huge. It was massive.
It was not business. Yo. Canceled.
Listen, you’re. You’re both. You’re both correct.
The UFC did not exist before 93. When 93 came along and the UFC burst onto the scene. Everybody heard about the ufc. That was the. The big initial explosion. And it was because of hoist. Crazy.
Billboards, no schools. Had more of explosion of participants than Brazilian.
And then John McCain came in and they did. The UFC got canceled. They got pulled from cable. That’s why I went underground.
So if you get into the UFC in the early 2000s, go, oh, the Fortitas blew it up. Yes, they did. But it was the resurgence. It was already blown up. Got canceled.
It wasn’t making money for it.
No. And it wasn’t mainstream, Eddie. It still wasn’t mainstream.
It wasn’t mainstream. Now it’s mainstream.
Yeah, but it wasn’t with us, Eddie. But if you went up to, like, a regular guy in a store and said, do you know about the Ultimate Fighting Championship? There’s a high likelihood they wouldn’t know. If you go in there today, everybody knows.
When did you actually hit mainstream status?
2005. Yeah, that was UFC 1, 1995, too. When.
When it was massive change.
I think he got a lot of pay per views, too. I think it was massive.
Hoist versus Ken Shamrock. Super fight. They went 30 minutes. That was. That was 1995.
Nowhere near what they are. No, no, not even close.
It wasn’t. It wasn’t. But it was for us. Like, for us. It was a new thing.
And it was huge. No, but it was.
But as far as a business grows.
Listen, if it wasn’t huge, why is.
Conor the biggest star in the world? Grappler.
Well, what it is, is exciting. What’s exciting? Submissions are exciting. Finishes are exciting. You know, Oliveira has lost a lot of it or won rather a lot of his fights by submission.
But every big fighter, really.
How come Muay Thai is in the big striking. Why?
Hey, who won this fight we don’t even know exactly.
But. But Eddie, Eddie, you get strike huge in the game. Elbows strike, right.
Why isn’t Muay Thai the biggest sport?
They don’t have any stars.
Well, no, that’s not true. One FC is doing a really good job with it. But I. They need an American promotion that’s similar to One FC that’s willing to have just. Look, everybody, if you just want striking, you can get the best kickboxers in the fucking world to just have a fight in the cage.
One championship does that.
And I think, you know, the UFC has, instead of slap fight, maybe that’s the way to go. Like, this is an opportunity to have just like have stand up only rules. Stand up only rules are. If you really want to see the wildest kickboxing in the world, it’s not in the ufc. There’s great fights in the ufc, but the wildest kickboxing is in Muay Thai.
But Alex Pierre came from that background. Glory world champion is.
And they’re champions, of course. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
What makes it big? Striking with the threat of jiu jitsu. Agree.
I’m 100% with you, Eddie.
Glory would be the biggest thing in the world.
Well, it should be huge. It’s the same reason why the UFC almost wasn’t huge. You need a Fertittas. You need someone to come along that has a large amount of money that understands business. Look, they were $40 million in the hole when they did UFC Ultimate Fighter 1. 40 million. And they were like, look, we can’t.
There was one point in time where they had a phone call and the fertittas got on the phone with Dana and they said, we’re going to sell it. Let’s sell it. And then Dana got a call from them the next morning. They changed their mind. Said it ride till the wheels fall off. Let’s.
Let’s fund this Ultimate Fighter. And it was the craziest Hail Mary of all time. And Stefan Bonner and Forest Griffin in the finals had the craziest fight. And everybody tuned in. Like, millions of people were calling their friends saying, there’s the wildest fight. These guys are fighting in a cage on Spike tv. And it, boom.
The whole sport blew up. And then Chuck Liddell and then, you know, there’s. The sport just exploded from there. But if Muay Thai doesn’t have a fertidas, you’re not going to get that. You’re not going to get all the stories, all the, the, you know, this guy building stars. Yeah. All the. You’re just going to see skills kind.
Yes, he is. And he’s doing a great job doing that exact thing in One FC as well as including Jiu Jitsu. But it, for whatever reason, is not that popular in America. It’s just not. It’s. I mean, it does really well in 8 Asia. I don’t know anybody outside of hardcore fans that’s watching One fc.
It’s not like my friends who are like a carpenter calls me up, hey, you watching One FC tonight? Like, it’s not.
Not in America. Outside of America, their views are higher than ufc, like in Asia. And massive. Huge, massive.
And they get big crowds and huge. They have great fights too. There’s.
There’s some stamp fair text.
I’m all for more fights. I’m all for more different ways of doing it and I prefer their way of doing it where you have a bunch of different. Like you can have a standup Muay Thai fight where you’re in a cage with little MMA guns.
Jeff Chip has that. Then they have straight grappling like Mikey Mushi was one of the main events underneath that.
Rolo brothers are so good.
Scary. I can’t believe how good they are watching the Rolo brothers after we had them. Yeah, they’re so ridiculous.
Did you watch Kade Rolo versus Andrew Tackett? I think Ji.
People are calling that not the most exciting Jiu Jitsu match. And it didn’t even have a finish. The most exciting Jiu Jitsu match and it didn’t even have.
Now. Both of those guys, Cade Rotolo and Andrew Tackett, both are combat Jiu Jitsu world’s champions. Imagine them that fight with fucking strikes.
Although it’s a different I DM shotri and said, yo, do that in one. They both are champions in combat Jiu Jitsu. They’re both into it. Kate even does mma. Josh, can you imagine that? Andrew Tacky versus Kade Ro with strikes dog. That would be huge.
Combat Jiu Jitsu is jiu Jitsu with strikes.
Okay. With hand punching or. No, no, with just palm strikes like pancreas.
Yeah, you can somebody up with your palms.
Do we have knockouts and feel this. We have knockouts and TKOs all.
Try to do that with your knuckles.
Try to do that with your knuckles. It’s gonna hurt.
That hurts. Ow. You could. You could hit someone pretty hard.
While we have a little time, can I do one little plug?
Jiu Jitsu Overdose is my attempt to do, like, Jiu Jitsu Coachella. Like a Coachella in Cancun in December. We’re having Jiu Jitsu Overdose. I’m having all my shows. Combat Jiu Jitsu Worlds, Ebi Medusa, which is female Combat Jiu Jitsu and Combat Jiu Jitsu Mexico. Every night a different show and during the day, a seminar.
Jean Jacques Machado. This is it right here. Combat Jiu Jitsu Worlds. Ebi Medusa.
Stand up there. You told me to do that, but you.
But you declined. But it’s also.
It’s too late, dog. It’s too late. You had your chance, but this is it right here. This is a Jiu Jitsu overdose. It’s every night a different Jiu Jitsu show. During the day, a different seminar. And then at night, comedians that do Jiu Jitsu. Sam, Tripoli. Chingo. Bling. We’re having.
I asked you, but you were like. Your manager said, it’s not enough money. I didn’t pay you enough.
I’m not gonna do it for 25.
I’ve done it for free. What are you talking about?
I didn’t charge you at all.
I think I’m gonna be in Denver.
And it’s gonna be a Planet Hollywood.
You’re gonna be in Denver. You don’t know where you’re gonna be.
It’s gonna be. It’s gonna. It’s December 11th through December 16th.
It’s. You go to Jiu Jitsu Overdose. Document reserve.
It’s going to be a Planet Hollywood all inclusive, free. That means free food, free drinks. You get to watch Jiu Jitsu every night, a seminar every day, and comedy every night. My goal was to create the ultimate Jiu Jitsu experience.
That was my call for Jiu Jitsu Coachella.
You’re crushing. Proud of you, brother.
I’m going to do it every. Every December. This is the first one. We’re going to do it every December, every night. And you know what?
What proved that for me? Pgf. They. Dude, it’s a. It’s a. It’s coming in November. Same thing. A Jiu Jitsu show every night for five nights. Dude, I ref that shit. It was so much. It was the. It was the only vacation I Ever took where I could have stayed another week. Every vacation I’ve ever taken, I couldn’t wait to get fucking home. I would change flights. I wonder if I. Like, tonight, I’m like, supposed to leave tomorrow.
I want to leave tonight. You know what I mean? I’m gonna change my flight for. For tonight. Every vacation I’ve ever been on, I was in Hawaii with my family, and my wife goes, we changed.
We were supposed to leave Saturday afternoon, and it’s like Friday afternoon. She goes, I changed the flight for tonight. She didn’t say, you’re gonna be mad. I’m sorry, but we have to. She already knew. She goes. And she goes, I changed the flight for tonight. I’m like, yeah, let’s get the out of Oahu.
Waikiki Beach. Okay, I get it. We went. We went out on a boat. We went out on a boat to go look at.
Do you talk about this on stage? No, write it down. For real, Eddie. For real, for real, for real.
I don’t even know where to. How to start.
You hate vacation. Yo, yo, yo, dude, we went.
We went on. Okay, we’re gonna go see sea turtles like a mile out of the ocean.
I saw Jaws 1, 2, and 3 when they came out.
Jaws 3 and 3D that me up. They gave me PTSD for the ocean, but my son wanted to go deep sea diving for turtles. Yo. I had to suck it up. I’m like, these kids are doing it. You could do it. You could do it. These kids are doing.
There was a bunch of kids. I jumped in the ocean. Ocean dog in the. All I kept thinking about was Jaws 3 and 3D tonight.
I’m not into that. I’m not into that.
I’m not trying to go in the ocean.
Tim is like, you’re going swimming.
He knows what I know. You deserve it. You deserve it. Hope Jake Shields in that water.
I tried to wrestle with him on the beach, too. It didn’t go well.
Yeah, good move. Once you wrestle. Tim Kennedy, legitimate psychopath.
Black belt world champion. Good luck.
Special Forces. One of the toughest men ever that’s ever walked on earth.
Once you go hunting with campaigns.
He was in the water for an hour with no wetsuit and he wasn’t cold. I was in a wetsuit with 15 minutes. I was like this.
How long you have to be in the water till you’re dead?
And Then five minutes before that, he gets out. Yeah, yeah, you need those.
Where he swam, he decided, you know.
Oh, yeah, he almost went into suicide.
Kind of just swam all the way out, and the fog was so thick. He was swimming for, like, three hours. He was having trouble moving, moving his legs. And that’s the Morrow Bay, where it’s a great white breed breeding ground. And he’s there, you know, in the dawn. He’s out there.
A woman saw him get completely naked and get in the water.
Yep. And so she’s like, something’s not right. And he just kept swimming. He’s like, two miles out in the middle of the ocean, and he’s naked.
He was like, if you’re gonna die, that’s the way to die. So.
So he can’t feel his legs. He’s just out there. And the coast Guard comes up, and they go, what are you doing out here in the drink? And he goes. He starts rattling off his life story. He goes, if I can get a girl pregnant, I got another girl pregnant. I’m all fucked up. My whole life, I think I got kicked out of the police force, out of the, you know, fucking fire department. My life’s a mess.
And that guy goes, okay, you want to. You want to sit out here in the drink or you want to come on board? And he goes, I don’t know. You know, Tim. And he goes. And the guy goes. He looks at me, goes, your dick looks tiny in this water.
And it made Tim so mad that he was like, get the off me. And he climbed up on there, and they put a blanket around him and stuff.
And that’s a smart dude. He knows how to get to a man.
Tim’s the one who got me working out again, got me sober. Yeah, Tim’s the best.
No, that’s awesome. I love Tim.
I’m going hunting with him two days from now.
What are you guys hunting?
Deer and partridge and pheasant.
In London. Anytime you want to come.
Oh, really? In London, huh? So is that road deer, dude? Yeah, they do use dogs to fetch the partridges. And we.
Yeah, we dropped. Drive the pheasants and the. And the partridge, we. It’s murder in the sky.
Pheasants are a weird one. You know, pheasants are a wild bird, but not really, right. Like pheasants. Pheasants are a weird one. You know, they do. They have these some places where they do a canned hunt. This is when Dick Cheney shot his Friend in the face. So this is can hunt, dude.
They just have these boxes of birds and they open them up and the birds fly and these old drunk dudes just start blowing out of the sky. Boom. Boom.
It’s the lamest thing of all time.
Listening to you, Luke Bryant, when you guys talking about hunting. I’ve never been into hunting. I was like, damn, I kind of want to go hunting.
That kind of hunting is the kind of hunting that he does and the kind of hunting that I do. For sure. I do most. Almost all. Like, my hunts are mountain hunts.
You ever seen a monk, Jack? You see how small they are?
So it’s a deer, and it’s literally a full grown one is about.
Why would you shoot them, man?
Oh, look at the little sweet.
Look at those, sweetie. I shoot it, man.
We eat it. They’re really elusive.
I’m lying. I would eat it. Especially if it’s the only thing you can hunt.
Oh, that’s a baby. Don’t.
Come on, you piece of baby bro.
You know what’s the easiest to hunt? You know, Come on. Pigs. When you hunt wild pigs, it’s like you’re hunting orcs. They’re making these crazy noises. There’s none. You see their tusks and you see they’re covering dirty.
My boy owns a truffle farm in Italy, right? And they used to hunt. They used to look for truffles with pigs, right? You know why they’re doing it? They don’t do it anymore. They use dogs now. And I was like, why? He goes, oh, because the problem is, before we had pointers, a pig.
If you’re a truffle farmer 100%, you’re losing your fingers. Like, it’s like every truffle farmers like, hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you.
Because you’re trying to get the pig out of the way.
Because one white truffle can cost $6,000, right? So you’ll go, you’re getting that truffle. That’s gold, right? And the pig will eat. And the pig. You’re not getting the pig off that truffle. Eat your fingers. They will chew right through your fingers.
Yeah. They eat people all the time. I think it’s one of the number one ways people die on farms. They fall into a pig pen.
Like an old guy have a heart attack, fall into a pig pen. They just Devour.
It all depends how you treat the pigs, though.
That regenerative farm that I was at, there was a bunch of pigs and we hung out with the pigs.
They were like. I was like, you’re gonna kill these pigs.
I think there’s an argument for that. Because if you’re in a cage and then the food falls into the cage, like anything on the ground is probably food to them. It’s just meat on the ground.
And probably they hate their life because they’re in a fucking cave.
It’s the first time I ever saw pigs on a farm. And they. It’s true. They love, like, mud puddles.
They get. They. They sub. They get. Dude, they love mud puddles.
I thought that was a really good fight.
The only thing is, like, striker rackets looked really good against Yuri, but Yuri just would not stop coming after him. Would not stop coming. And eventually got him.
So you got to wonder, like, experience for him.
This is a tough fight for and k. For both guys.
Go. Lives a beast. That guy is not getting his due. For whatever reason. For whatever reason.
Draw, right. The draw kind of them a little bit with yawn.
But you can’t fault him for two of the best guys in the world fighting their heart out and coming to a draw.
I never heard they do because it wasn’t the most exciting fight. So they move on.
It wasn’t the most exciting, exciting fight because they’re both so good now.
I don’t like tatering to casuals. This is why I’m down with Eddie’s idea. And I had the exact same idea. If you talk about keeping the fight going at the. At the next round, if you are in the mount, keep it going. I don’t think anybody should ever get stood up ever, for any reason other than a foul. Why exactly?
Watch boxing. Go watch boxing.
They keep them on their feet. If they’re in boxing. They never go to the ground. They never go. Go watch boxing.
If a guy is on top of you and he gouges your eye and there’s a foul and they take a point away. Yeah. Stand him up. If you’re gonna let him keep fighting or if you’re gonna disqualify him. Disqualify him.
This like one of the craziest ones you remember. What’s that girl’s name? Priscilla Kashwira. She was getting choked and I think it was. Was it Jillian Murphy, that. That got her. I forget who was. I find out who that is. Stuck her thumb into her eyeball.
That’s what Paul Harris did to Jake Shields.
But watch this. Well, Pajaras like, held on to. He gouged a bunch of people, but he also held on to Jake’s kimura. He got him in a kamora and didn’t let go. Yeah.
Paul, he’s known for hanging on this bad guy. And then Nate Marquardt beat the out of.
Can you show me that? Jamie?
Dude, how did you remember her last name? Don?
I commented that fight. I was horrified. I was like, that girl should not.
No one even knows how to spell it.
She should not be fighting to defend.
Your take on an too about him, you know, not being the most exciting. You realize I was listening. He only shoots once every 15 minutes.
Yes. So we’re all like, oh, he’s this grappler. All he does wrestle. No, not really.
Well, he started shooting on Yuri because Yuri. Excuse me. Yawn. He started shooting on Yan yacht his legs up. So here it is. So look at that. That’s Jillian Robertson. Jillian Robertson.
Jillian Robertson has her in. She’s been on the podcast. She’s cool. Look at this. Look at. In the eyeball, bro. In the eyeball.
But that doesn’t matter. You can’t ever do that. You can’t ever do that.
But that is a. That’s such a dangerous foul. That’s not even like a kick in the nuts foul.
You could. You could ruin someone’s eyes get.
How did. Did they notice it? Did they stand him up? She’s fought since the whole narrative on him being like, oh, just a grappler born guy. Not really, man. Most of his stuff’s done on the feet.
Yeah, he’s a very good striker.
Well, it all depends on how you look at that stat. If he said he only takes people down one time every, like 15 minutes, maybe he takes him down and keeps him down for a long time.
So you got to factor that.
Well, he’s only lost one time other than the draw, and that was to Paul Craig. Paul Craig caught him in a triangle like the last second of.
He was winning the entire fight.
Then Paul Craig got great jiu jitsu.
Yeah, I love triangle. Excited. I’m very excited.
And at 185. Damn. Craig’s dropped down to 85. He’s huge for 85.
Don’t you remember what he did to Jamaica?
He. His arm up. Remember he broke his arm? I’m not like, before Jamal. Champion.
Remembering everything from the ufc. You guys are.
You guys would know everything.
One of my jobs kind of mind.
Yeah, we both have jobs, so you. You guys need to have, like, a separate MMA show, man.
Yeah. The UFC is, like, the only thing that I have ever done that doesn’t feel like a job. That’s an actual job. Like, I. I get a check, I can’t get remembering.
Like, I put on shows like ebi. I was the ref for all those fights. I don’t remember any of them. I was standing right there, and people are like, dude, you ref my fight. I’m like, who are you? Like, do I know you? Remember?
I suffer from that, too, but you know what that is?
You gotta see it again. You could just. You got to see them over and over. So what I want to know. When do you guys. What, at night or in the morning? Do you guys review fights?
It’s all I. Listen. It’s all I can say.
No, but, like, at night, like, when.
I go to bed, if I watch fights, it’s purely for entertainment, unless it’s getting ready for an event. Like, so when you get ready for.
There’s, like, say there’s some cat on the car that I haven’t seen fight before. I’ll go search his name on YouTube and watch all. I watch. Like, yeah, I watch, like, lfa Fight. No, I do it in my head. Mostly in my head.
It’s incredible how you guys, like, like, when you guys start going off, you two, I don’t even want to jump in. I’m like, I don’t know. Like, I don’t remember anything for them, bro.
But I have so many friends that are like, they know all these things about sports. I don’t know who anybody is unless they marry someone famous. Like, I don’t know who anybody is unless they get arrested. So someone has to do something.
That’s why I was surprised I saw you at the. The Texas game.
I had a great time. My wife is a big football fan.
Hinchcliffe’s a big football fan, and so is Ron White. Yeah, it’s. Bro, the. The excitement. Oh, here we go. The excitement of being at a giant college football game. Is there’s nothing.
There’s nothing like it, bro.
It was awesome. The energy is awesome.
See, I think Rocket can get it done. Even though he’s on 2. Fight losing skid. It’s still a tough fight for N go.
You never can count guys out when they’re on skids, you know? Look at Charles Oliveira. Remember when Charles Oliveira was on that skid?
And then all of a sudden, he was losing.
Yeah. And then all. Well, Max, it was just Alexander Volkanovski, but still, Volkanovski just had his number. And that’s Volkanovski in the peak of his performance.
But I don’t know if he has number. That was. Those fights were so close. It could have gone.
Third one. He made it clear.
The second one. I thought Max won on me, too.
But Volkanovski in the third one ran away with it. And that’s when a lot of people started thinking the best days of Max are behind him. But that’s also Max not sparring, which is really interesting because then you see Max gets ready for the Gaethje fight and he starts sparring again.
And then he’s see this completely different Max dude.
But it was even before that. Korean zombie was before that.
Yep, yep. Look, Max is a monster, man. And he’s not old. He’s 32. Like, he’s still 30.
It’s not like they’re young kids.
Exactly. Look at Alex Barrera. He’s 37.
He’s smart, though, because he knows the. That the. You know, the clock’s kick ticking, so he’s trying to just monetize it. Just the thing is, like, people were.
Thinking, and I was probably guilty of it myself, that, that. That Justin Gaethje fight was scary to me because, like, damn, Gaethje’s so big.
Oh, bro. I’m on record going, max, why?
I was worried about me too. But you see his performance and you’re like, oh, oh, oh. We gotta recalculate and recalibrate. And remember Max like when he beat up Calvin Cater. We gotta remember Max when he was piecing up Jose Aldo. Like this twice, bubba. Yeah, bro.
He’s war with Dustin Poirier.
Yeah, well, no, no. Dustin Pod one. Dustin pieced him up.
Hey, in regards to war, dude. In regards.
That was not a war. That was not a war. Dan Hooker and Dustin Poirier was a war. Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier was Dustin Po. That was tough to watch running away with.
But Dustin got tagged up he still.
He said, I left a piece of myself in there.
No, no, you’re thinking of a different fight.
You left a piece of yourself.
I bet that was Dan Hooker. You think?
Yeah, Dustin him up. It was rough to watch.
That Dan Hook fight was bananas.
Dustin and Dan Hooker went to war. It was just back and forth. There’s a video of it with no commentary on YouTube. You watch and you go, jesus. Because it’s at the apex and you just hear, rip, rip, rip, rip. But they’re. Those guys duked it out. Dustin just squeaked. Squeaked by with that one.
How about such a close fight?
How about Hooker, Connor, that.
Well, Connor and Hooker said it’s real, but Dana’s like, look at this.
This is no commentary. Listen to this. It’s crazy. It’s just brutal.
Let’s look how big racket is, dude.
That back striking in regards to sparring. Striking. I really. I’m no expert in str Striking when you’re training for fight and sparring, but in grappling, if you’re nuts, if you’re gonna do Abu Dhabi, if you’re gonna do adcc, you’re gonna do EBI Come. If you’re not sparring with the hardest guys you can find every day, you have no chance. In grappling, you have no chance. You have no chance.
That’s a fact. I don’t know, because.
No, no, you’re different people. What they’re trying to do is minimize the biggest threat, head injuries.
So in striking, I get it. If you don’t spar, you just drill. But in grappling, you have no shot.
You don’t even striking either. Really? Because it’s like being a firefighter and not, you know, training in hot environment.
Well, you don’t want to get Dutch guys. You have to. Have to. You have to. What the Dutch guys do is they don’t go hard to the head, so they go real hard to the legs, into the body, and they pull punches to the face.
Don’t Muay Thai guys do the same thing when they.
Muay Thai guys do the opposite. They play hard. No, no, no, no, no. They play Muay Thai guys in Thailand because they fight every week, right? So you can’t afford to be all up. You’re watching.
They’re sparring, actually fighting.
They’re. Well, when they. Yeah, correct, Right. Spar. But when they spar, they spar like a lot of times with no pads.
But they don’t need to, right, Joe? Because they’re, they’re, they have so many fights. It’s unlike this.
Who are the guys in UFC he history who sparred, striking the hardest? Vanderla Verdum. Oh, yeah, they sparred hard, right?
You want to see some real sparring? Watch some of those guys, some of those boxers, like some of those Mexican boxers.
Strickland spars all the time, right?
Striking all the time. Strickland’s number one. He’s number one. He spars more than he does anything they say.
And look how calm he is in the third, fourth and fifth rounds because he’s so doing it. That kind of cardio is a different kind of cardio. The constant. And you’ve seen the way Strickland spars basically fights. Yeah, he fights people. Especially if you start melting, you got a spar.
Right. You know who sparred hard as was T.J. dillashaw.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All those alpha male guys.
And even, even, like, can you imagine you’re trying to win mentality, can you imagine trying to win a wrestling championship and you’re not sparring?
It’s impossible, impossible, impossible.
But I think guys were just trying to figure out how to minimize getting head trauma.
There’s a way to do it. You got to spar with people who you trust, who, when they. It is tough.
I don’t, I don’t think you can come out on skate. It’s just. What?
No, you can’t. You cannot come out on skate. But you can minimize the damage if you spar with people that you trust that if they know they’re going to get you, they’ll hit you with a little of that and not like full clip.
I watch that better be Bibble fight. And even when Bivol had his hands up, he would get hit in the gloves and his, his spine would still, still take the reverberation.
That was a very interesting fight. It’s so, such an interesting boxing match between these, like the Russian style of amateur boxing. So sophisticated, just like their wrestling program. So sophisticated. And to see those two tacticians incredible. And better be might be the scariest dude who’s ever fought as a lighthouse heavyweight. He’s a monster. And he’s 39.
39. And storming the gates in the 10th, 11th and 12th rounds. Oh, bival was getting in trouble in the, in the latter half of the fight.
Brennan, you’re right, man. Uncle I have. His first thought is just to strike, man.
So the narrative of him being like this, you know, boring grappler, striker doesn’t get a title shot, you’re like, yeah. If you look at the stats, he’s actually more of a striker.
He said he wanted to stand with Pereira. He said, pereira doesn’t have a chin. He said, bad idea. Fun for us. What are you talking about?
You’re ruining everything. You ruined the Kamala thing, and now you’re ruining this.
I’m sorry. I’m off my game, bro.
Yeah. I’m a big fan of Uncle Live. I think he got a real raw deal. I think the Jan Bovic fight is not his fault. It was a great fight, and I thought he did what he had to do to win. He took him to the ground because his leg was gone. What do you want to do, get a concussion?
But I also get from Dana White in the ufc. It’s like he had a shot. Let’s keep going.
You know, these guys have similar styles, man. I think you got to be a purist. I think the best guys have to fight the best guys, period. And that’s one of the best guys for sure. He’s not always in the conversation of who to fight next for the title, but he’s been talking, and now Pereira is mad at him.
So Pereira is telling him, like, he’s got to have to wait. Yeah.
The ufc, unfortunately, so far, he’s losing this fight.
Yeah, but the problem with it, if you don’t. If you make Pereira angry, you have a real problem on your hands.
He’s the most terrifying guy ever in the sport. He’s enormous. But it’s the skill, man. It’s the skill.
Standing right there, Khalil. Oh, my God.
He kept his right in his face. You’re, like, sliding away from punches and landing thudding bows. Did you hear what Mark Goddard told me?
He never heard a sound like that, right? He said ungodly.
20 years of refereeing fights, terrible Mark Garden impression.
It was on. Ungodly. Ungodly. The sound. Ungodly. He made sure. He came over to me to tell me that, like, with this look in his eyes, like, it’s ungodly.
I heard it. I was caged. That was crazy, bro.
Here’s a special dude, man.
He’s built different, man. I’m telling you, there’s something different.
Like, God damn, she’s got the same skills as him. And that left hook, KO and karate combat. She’s nasty. I hope she gets signed to the ufc, too. That would be crazy. The. The Pereira sister wins the title and event. What if it’s the same way? What if she storms the gates, too and just starts lighting people up on.
Speaking of women’s. Tatiana Suarez is out again. She’s injured.
Ah, she’s been injured so many times.
That poor girl. She’s so good now, too. I know.
People keep forgetting about her.
Tatiana’s only one of the best female wrestlers to ever compete in the sport, man. She’s so dominant in.
They keep getting hurt. Look at. I mean, we were talking about t. Oh, that was a nice left hand.
T.J. dillaw. T.J. dillshaw got ruined because of injuries, man.
You know why? Cuz he went so paint. And you want to talk about Kobe mentality in mma? Nothing close. Well, if you get an inch on him, he would.
He beat San with one leg. Remember that?
Dude, somebody would get some on him in. In training, and it’s literally was like a. He couldn’t just let it go.
He said his whole family was like that. They would race on the way home. Gets old first.
Yeah, he said his family’s, like, super, super competitive. He’s a great dude.
He’s crushing. His supplements are good.
I’m happy for him. I keep seeing him trying to re. Good.
He has, like, protein powder, like, healthy protein powder.
Well, he’s just saying, Eddie, that his business is doing well.
I’m saying, like, it’s his. He owns it. It’s his business.
I thought you meant he sent me.
A bunch of the protein powder.
Y. Oh, you thought he was, like, taking stuff. Oh, no.
Like, doesn’t everybody take.
No. That’s hilarious. That’s hilarious. No, he has a company. He has, like, a seasoning company, too. Doesn’t he have, like, a Wild game seasoning company?
What if every UFC fighter just got on, like, a stem cell, like, like, regimen?
Like, oh, my God. Imagine it was just like standard would go if the fc, if the FDA didn’t regulate it the way they do. If they just allow what the CGI is doing down in Tijuana. They allow the cpi.
Cpi. Cellular Performance Institute.
Ed Clay what do you think of overall?
No, they just send people to tj, cpi like, like on the regular.
Listen, Eddie, they should be able to do that in Vegas at the performance. Yes, they should have it right after the fight.
They won’t allow. They should and they will. Eventually. They will. Yeah, because enough people are going to get healed by it where they really realize like it can save people from all sorts of problems, neurological conditions. It radically repairs tissue damage, soft tissue.
Yes, I heard, I just heard the. One of the biggest fighters of all time. For some reason I’m not allowed to say his name, but. One of the biggest fighters of all time.
Does his name rhyme with George St. Pierre?
That’s what I was gonna call bigger.
Way bigger than Wrench. Wait a minute. Went.
Went to CPI in Tijuana and is get about to have a fight and it’s going to be. I ain’t going to say.
I the only guy we. Who the is bigger, right?
Who’s bigger than George St. Pierre? Mike Tyson. There’s nobody else way bigger than George St. Pier. Than.
Trust. Okay, good pull, Joe.
Does it matter where you shoot him in like.
No, you shoot him into your dick mostly. That’s what I do. Yeah, you have to, you spot, you know, wherever the injury is. Like it’s in your knee. They put it in your knee.
Dude, I’m lifting like a.
Because of the stamps they fixed. I was gonna have surgery on this mother. Torn labrum surgery.
They shot it up like a. Went down a tj. Did you know there’s a part of TJ that’s nice?
I thought it was all favela. Yeah, I went down there. I’m like, I feel like I’m in west la.
That’s where all the off road companies are at. Like McNeil racing all that shit.
Round three, boys. This is heating up.
It’s a uncle. I was actually connecting more.
He is. It’s a good fight.
Actually no Ratic won that first round, did he? Yes.
Now I have no talking about stem cells, but I think he won the first.
How many times you done stem cells, Joe?
Yeah, I. Yeah, it’s Definitely different.
There’s a reason why CPI and Tijuana. Because what they’re doing, dog, the real shit, they’re doing some shit.
100%, it’s different. And then there’s also Panama. Neil Reardon’s place in Panama. They’re doing the similar.
And then there’s the other place in Colombia. That’s really good.
If they allowed it in the United States, what they’re doing at cpi, they wouldn’t be in tj. They’re only in TJ because they have to.
This is what I injuries. There’s a lot of people that have help. Help with neurological conditions. Like, they’re doing IV stem cells with people that have, like, certain.
I can hook you up. I can hook you up easy.
Everything’s wrong with you.
You need some stems, dog. You need some stems.
Stop lying. Everything’s wrong.
How’s your dick? Is it working fine?
Can they do something for Callan’s hair down there?
The next thing with stems is hair regrowth. And dick stems. Dick stems, dog. They’re working on dick stems. Like, it’s gonna make your dick bigger and stronger.
Wow. I’m excited. Imagine if bushes came back. If bushes came back. People tired of, like, shaved.
So let’s go ao natural. Go back to. Maybe it’ll be, like, more attractive to people for a while.
Do you shave your balls to an.
Eight seventies and then shave your balls?
I do now, especially because so much gray.
I go. I go down to a Brazilian wax place. A Brazilian. And I go, don’t wax me. Can you trim me instead? And, dude, I get trimmed.
They put your legs up like a baby.
But I. I don’t want to do it.
Is connecting on Rocket, right?
An old Russian lady trims my balls.
I don’t think that’s legal. You should probably not tell that to people online.
It’s legal. It’s totally legal.
Oh, that’s another shot. He’s winning this round.
This kind of taking over.
Well, Rocket has a tendency sometimes to fade.
It’s so hard for those Big Jack guys to keep a high pace.
Yep. Oh, Wrestling now, that’s gonna be tough. A single leg.
Not a bad move. He’s not tough. He’s not doing so good in the standup. At least this slows it down a little.
But when you’re down, you need to finish.
But if he. Yeah, but he might be in survival mode here.
Yeah, yeah, he got. He got tagged.
The thing is, when guys know they’re on slippery slopes and they’ll take a dive in for a clinch. This is why boxers get killed more than UFC fighters.
You know, you have options that can preserve you. Also, the. The whole knockdown thing, counting to 10 clearly can cost 100%. Yeah. Especially like France.
Like, that’s crazy that they let him fight in that next round.
In mma, it would most likely be over. Yeah.
Unless the clock was running.
Someone dives on top of you, a hammer fists you a couple times.
That’s why I think with Toperia, I think we’re gonna see more grappling.
I think he’s grappling now. He’s so complete, man. He’s so complete, but he’s also, like, super cocky. And Max is a real warrior, man. He’s. He’s the real.
See, I think Max is gonna. On the feet.
Who knows? He’s got length, that’s for sure.
Ilia is so fast, and he’s so lethal when he gets inside.
And every shot is so dangerous.
Every shot can put you away. The way he put away Al. I know Alex was coming off of that knockout loss to Islam, but it was still cuz. The way. The way he knocked out Jai Herbert after he got head kicked in the first round. Yeah, bro.
It’s hard to see the subtleties too, when you’re that good.
Where they put their feet and the.
Way he survived Ryan Hall’s jiu jitsu onslaught. Oh, yeah, that right there.
He ran. He rolled with Ryan hall and he goes. It’s like rolling with water, like a wave.
Yeah, but think about what Topira did to Brian. Brian Mitchell.
Rag dollar. He’s dangerous. He’s really dangerous.
Isn’t Bryce mainly a jiu jitsu?
Bryce’s got good stand up, man. He knocked down Nets and Barboza.
Remember, like, his standup’s not that bad. It’s just his jiu jitsu known for real good. Real good. His standups.
How awesome is Bryce Mitchell’s, like, Persona.
He was. I always thought he was just like a farmer, like, from the get. But he’s a city. A city guy whose grand was a farmer. And then he’d go visit his grandma, and it’s like, dude, I want to live like this. He was a city, dude.
I always thought it was just a farmer, just based on what you see on Instagram, but he became a farmer because he had his grandma was a farm.
He can, dude, he’s got bars, dog, dude.
Yeah. Left hand, I think. Lineup, guys. Oh, this.
There might be video out there, Jamie. Of Bryce Mitchell rapping.
I watched it this morning.
He’s good. He’s good. But check this out.
There’s one of. Check this out.
Freestyle, pasture, fire. Perfect already.
It’s great. He could rap, dude.
Yo, this has 413,000 views.
That’s a lot of views, though.
I’m from Arkansas the dark and saw.
Light at the end of the tunnel My energy’s funneled my enemies talking they chuckle I don’t give a a no need to rebuttal they look in my eyes and they know I won’t buckle.
Been from the jungle I’ve been down.
A rumble Give me the microphone I’ll keep it humble and give me the weight and I ain’t on a fumble that’s a bad habit that’s good.
Find free I’ll wait till Jamie gets.
Back Is sporadic I ain’t going to.
Lie Been living lavish I’m straight out the trailer I.
There’s one with the. Yeah, he can freestyle, dude.
He goes, okay, who won this fight? Uncle.
I’m going to go with the beard guy.
Let’s see. But, you know, decisions are sketch, especially. We’ve had some. We’ve. We’ve had some.
More corrupt Vegas decisions or Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi, you think?
Oh, all day. Really? Oh, yeah.
I think they bring the same judges everywhere, man. They drink, do they? Yeah.
You don’t think Abu Dhabi got some Muslim judges?
I don’t know. I don’t know what the rules are in some places.
I know they do referees in some places. So you say if you go to a state like Kentucky, for example, you have to use a certain amount of state referees and Some of them aren’t. Aren’t really qualified to be doing a ufc. Like that happened in Salt Lake City.
A guy. A guy got pulled from the rest of the card.
Yeah, he the guy. This is a different one in Salt Lake City recently.
Do you know which one I’m talking about with a tie to of usa? No, the card was always in Australia. The dude gave it like 10, 8 for Tai 2 of USA he clearly lost the fight. They literally kicked him out after the fight.
Oh, that’s right. That’s another one. Yeah, that was a judge they did. Yeah, that was a good move. They gotta do that. Someone gives a crazy decision like that where everybody’s like, shut the up. But what I was talking about is referees. So this referee did a real. He, like, kept separating people, like, instantly. They clinch instantly. Separate them. As soon as the crowd would boo, break it up, start fighting again.
And everybody’s like, what are you doing? He missed a nut shot or an eye poke. I forgot which one it is. But they kicked that guy out. So it does happen occasionally, but I.
Judges, for the most part, I think are the same. I think they’re like our traveling judges. I think they’re the judges they think are the good judges, you think? I think some of them are good judges. Some of them are good judges. But every now and then you get a decision where you’re like, whoever the thought the fight went that way really shouldn’t be doing this at a professional level.
And they don’t have to take any accountability.
Well, they do they not really, like, fired, but.
Yeah, maybe, but it’s rare. But I’m in Vegas. They should have some sort of spokesman. The same as the president does that comes out and they ask questions, how the did you score that 10, 8. And like. Well, he said he scored it because of this and go, okay, that makes sense.
I feel like three is too little. Three opinions is just not enough, I think. I think Glory has four or five. I think you should have five.
It’s got to be odd, right?
Shouldn’t they be fighters?
Should they have some fight experience?
What about. Where do they sit? Where are they watching?
Well, they have to at least be practitioners, right? You know, the. The, like, if you don’t do jiu jitsu, you don’t know what the is going on. So you don’t know if it’s close or not close. You don’t know if a guy’s fine or if a guy’s in deep. You really don’t know. You don’t know what you’re looking at. You’re looking at like you. It’s like listening to someone speak French and you don’t speak French. Like, I guess they’re talking.
I don’t know what the they’re saying. If you see people scrambling, you don’t know what’s going on. You just see two bodies whirling around. But if you’re Eddie Bravo, you see exactly what’s going on. You see when a guy’s in trouble, when.
If you’re judging and you can’t differentiate between those two things, you have no business judging.
Yeah, I think, let me ask.
I think the point is like, like this is a conspiracy. The people at the top, the casinos and all the betting, they want you to blame the judges and not blame them. So they put in incompetent people. I never met a bookie with a part time job. I think, I think incompetent judge. Judges are very important.
Definitely is that. Do you remember that there was a lady that she was responsible for a couple real bad boxing decisions? Yes, exactly. No, Adelaide Bird is a nice lady, okay? She’s just.
No martial arts experience. It’s crazy. It’s like me teaching flight school. I’ve been on a plane it. Let’s go. Nice lady. I love her, she’s a sweetheart. But yeah, me and, me and Dan Cormier listen, and her name came up. He goes, oh, Adelaide Bird. I go, she’s a nice thing. She’s a wonderful lady.
She’s a wonderful. She’s a nice lady. But yeah, her decision if that. If you’re a professional and you’re fighting for the title and one judge sees it correctly and then she sees it wildly, incorrectly, and then another judge sees it incorrectly.
First of all, I wouldn’t have.
118, 110 decision in favor of Canelo. Adelaide Bird. Oh, boy. Oh, Adelaide.
I would never have them sit together.
That was the Canelo fight where it looked like triple G beat him.
Yeah, the first fight, Triple G, in my mind, beat him.
What’s the latest with triple G? I know he’s old. Yeah, there’s nothing, not one more big thing for him.
He’s still fighting. I Think he’s won some?
Yeah, he won his last title. Yeah.
Wasn’t it a title? Strange title.
Tyson fight still going on. Yeah, that’s still going on.
Well, you know, you were watching him get stem cells. You son of a bitch.
I didn’t. You got caught, dude. Supposed to say Eddie had the best.
Ah, now you really said no, But.
But I didn’t say anything.
We. We leaked it out of you.
But Eddie had the best take on that Tyson, Jake Paul thing. He was like, if you want to get people intrigued, which nobody is. If you want to get people intrigued, you do it bare knuckle.
Yeah. You’re telling me you would Tyson bar with the inside.
If you found out Mike Tyson was going to punch somebody bare knuckle. And it’s Jake Paul.
I think bare knuckle saves boxing. You just. Just make it bare knuckle. The big ass pillow.
Yeah, but then how much do you.
Think Mike Perry versus Jay Paul would have been different? It was bare knuckle.
It’d be way different. I don’t know who’d win, but damn.
It would have been a bare knuckle.
I know, but also. So when you’re here, if somebody’s hooked, poking you and you have gloves on, this protects you.
Of course. Who wants to be in store? Do you think the audience is looking for. We’re looking for protection.
It’s not just that, Brian. It hurts you.
We’re looking for knockouts.
It hurts your arms. If you get punched in the arms, it.
And you break your hand easily.
Oh, yeah, look at this. Look at this, boys.
Look at this, boys. Look at Hamza.
Do you remember the ultimate player crazy move. Remember when Hamzat was fighting Gilbert Burns? And as Gilbert’s walking out, he’s on the top of the waiting and then had a fight of his life. Was like, oh, really, bro?
Number three. When Gilbert dropped him, I was like, oh, but Hamza’s got.
Dude, look at him talking here.
Now you listen to interview with that Brett Aamoto and he actually sounds. He like drops the whole arrogance thing. You’re like, oh, this dude’s a real one, bro.
The Kevin Holland fight was bananas. He hit the gas like he drained the gas tank right away. He just dove on him, took him down, forced a bunch of scrambles and caught him in a dust.
Tough for Kevin Holland, too. Supposed to fight a striker literally right, like hours before he switch it.
All emotions because they got in a brawl in the weigh ins. They get in a brawl during the weigh ins and say like, okay, you want to fight for real?
And so then all of a sudden Kevin Hall’s like, Jesus Christ.
And then, remember I asked him, I go, is this a better five years?
No, I got a hundred dollars on Whitaker right now. I’ll put the money. Money. 100.
I’m gonna go with Chamayev.
How much does Brian owe you?
How much does he owe you for all the losses?
No, that’s not true. I haven’t lost that much. You’re ahead now.
You’re ahead at this point, A few thousand, Bubba.
Do you have a ledger, anyone, anywhere where you keep track of your losses?
I don’t want to talk about it right now.
You don’t give it to him though. You don’t give them the 5,000.
But, but, but wouldn’t we feel better if you gave him the money?
We pay each other. We paid each other.
He paid me that one time.
But you owe money. Wouldn’t it be nice if we just give him that money you own? Wouldn’t it feel better?
We can bet during a fight.
I am not allowed to bet. You can. Legally. Legally. Legally.
Yeah. The ufc, literally. Because you know the whole thing with the betting with a trainer called the F. Yeah. You know that story because of that. No one’s allowed to bet.
All right, that’s a good.
But Eddie, you can bet. Brian Joe just came.
I used to bet in the early days of the ufc.
When I first started working for the ufc, especially when I wasn’t even getting paid, I’d bet on fights cuz no one knew what the was going on. There was these guys coming in from Russia. I was like, you don’t even know who this is. Like, what are the. This is the stupidest odds of all time.
Brazilian guys would come in. The oddsmakers had no idea who the guy was. Yeah, they get told by someone that you see the matchup, like, oh, this guy’s gonna smoke this guy.
Apollo Field is actually pretty good.
Aubrey and I were like at 84 at one point because I had quit gambling on it because I realized like, this is a little Sketchy. Even though they tell me like, it’s. I can’t affect the outcome. But it’s weird if I have money riding on a fighter and people already think I’m biased, like, probably don’t do that. So I stopped doing it.
So I’d give advice to Aubry. I’d pick. And we were 84, man balling. There was a few that I was like a hundred percent. This one, all the money on Anderson Silver debut. Anderson. His debut. I mean, that was the one. I was like, bet the house.
Yeah. I was like, bet the house on the Brazilian. Bet the house.
This was after Anderson became Anderson and Cage warriors, remember?
Yeah, yeah. So when he went over there and he fought Lee Murray and then he fought Tony Fricklin, he hit him with that crazy upward elbow. Coach told him to stop practicing. He. So he’d make his wife hold a pillow when he get home. And he was practicing that, standing there and stepping forward, and he wanted to knock him out with that.
Like he had this in his head that that’s what he was going to do.
Weird. But that’s obsession.
The Jorge Rivera fight. Remember that? Oh, my God.
Another day, another day in the office. Look at this.
Oh, he’s fired up, dude. Are you kidding me? He hasn’t fought in a long time.
God, it’s been at least a year.
Who was the last guy he fought?
He submitted him really easy, very quick.
No, no. Last fight was Kamar Usman.
Oh, that’s right. You’re right. That was a year ago. That was one year ago.
That was a decision. That was the one. Kamar was like, I should have picked five round.
If his five had been the tough fight for him.
This is real interesting because it all depends on, like whether, first of all, five rounds. This is a five round fight, which is huge.
Whitaker’s hard. Like the first round, he’s probably.
He got to dominate. Whitaker beat Yoel Romero.
Who was the all time scariest wrestler that ever competed in mma.
And Whitaker’s not one of those guys where if he’s down on the cards, he’s gonna just pack it up.
But Romero didn’t really take.
Romero would conserve a lot of his energy, explode on you and smash you if he wanted.
Like he took down Izzy and didn’t hold him down.
Yeah. Never used his wrestling hardly because it.
Was a conserving energy thing. Because his thing was always exploding on you. Yeah, like he did with Wyboon. He hit him that flying. Oh my God. But that flying knee hit Wyman with.
Oh, there’s so much blood on the map. Mats dog. There was.
That was the worst part of it.
There’s blood all over the match.
When you’re. When you’re doing that circle around the ring and you see that warm blood on beneath your feet and you’re like.
Yeah. I go, what the am I doing?
Damn. There might be covet in that blood.
I hope not. Maybe monkey pox even worse.
Dude, how quickly did monkey pox die?
They tried twice. Dude, the who said yo, Worldwide emergency. Oh yeah, no more butt.
How does that, how does it get on your dick if it’s acid?
Because you don’t just eat ass.
I don’t know if it’s just were they getting monkey pox on their lips.
Four gay dudes ate so much ass they died. And they were like, we need. This is mercy.
We need to lock America down.
Dude, no one gave. No one put up imagining about monkey pox.
Four dudes played Russian roulette and died. So we all had to wear helmets. That’s literally what it’s like. It’s so stupid.
Once you get a blister, you pig, you. Green blister, please.
Yeah, and they recommended washing your ass before someone ate it.
Before somebody eats it on freeway signs.
Remember that when they were the freeway signs during the scamdemic, when it was like, wash your hands, be safe. Like they were like telling us to wash our hands, save a life six.
Feet from a respiratory disease.
Yeah, yeah, wash dude on the freeway signs. Wash your hands.
Oh, Robert, I don’t think they’re ever.
Going to get us like that again.
No, no, that was the vaccine. That’s the ironic. It was like, that’s the vaccine.
That’s kind of what’s never gonna happen again because they already hit it.
And now the next one against.
Yeah, the next one. No hospitalization dog. No, next one.
Yeah, yeah. Did you see the recent statistics on Rescue Respirators? 90% of COVID patients who went on respirators died from it.
We have a family friend that. And then they didn’t let you go to the hospital.
They didn’t tell you where they were going to bury these. And you couldn’t have a funeral. Dude, dude. And people went along with that.
They were like, okay, no funerals.
And what’s crazy is some people will still go along with it.
And they remember when they scared the out of everybody and they put it out on cnn. The hospitals are running out of body. They were running out of body bags.
Good for ratings. So you had a ticker of people dying, who were dying of. If you went to the hospital, you had Covid, but you, you were in a car accident. They counted as a death from COVID because they got more money from the government.
Totally. Did you see the Rolling Stone article during the height of it all where they said that people were waiting in line to go into the emergency room for gunshot wounds because so many people were overdosing from Ivermectin? Yeah, Rolling Stone. Not only did they do that, these are stock photograph of people waiting in line at a hospital.
But these fucking morons did a photograph of people with coats on because it was a winter. They’re waiting for a flu shot.
So it was fake. But no one was going to the hospital for Ivermectin overdose. Even if you get the shit that they give to horses, it’s still Ivermectin. Like if you get penicillin. Penicillin is a veterinary medicine too. It doesn’t mean you get penicillin. You’re taking horse medicine. It’s a medicine. It’s the same medicine.
Look at the P. Diddy. The whole thing is exposing the music industry.
And what’s the height of the music industry? Rolling Stone. I mean, like that’s what.
They used to be a great magazine and they got hijacked by a bunch of young.
Well, they. That’s what happened to Vice. I had Shane Smith on from Vice the same thing.
It’s the same thing. He lost everything, dude. Everything. Because Vice went bankrupt.
He used to be my neighbor. I used to see him every day.
Bankrupt over a sexual harassment.
No, nay, sir. The ratings crashed to the floor. They went, woke, went broke. It’s the best example ever. Because they have young kids they hire as interns and they’re all coming straight out of college. They think this is the world.
They have been indoctrinated into A cult. It is a real time.
You know, the New York Times, the reason they make money is off their crossword puzzle.
And you know that the Washington Post has lost half their readership in the past four years. And they lost $70 million.
Yeah, and they hired this new guy, and he was like, you’re right. You guys are all writing this stuff. Nobody’s reading your. So we’re going to. We’re not going to. We’re not going to exist.
Just double down on crossword.
Well, people are so mad that they refuse to endorse Kamala Harris for president.
No, it was the Washington Post.
Why are they turning in their back?
Why are they saying, it’s just one.
Side or the other? What are they doing?
Well, magazines, newspapers, have always endorsed a candidate traditionally.
They might not be so sure they want her to win anymore. You know, I mean, who knows what they know? Who knows what all these people behind the scenes, like, what, there’s a 5D chess going on. You know, it might be as simple as they didn’t think she could win. Let’s try to get her to win. And if she doesn’t win, we’ll be fine.
Because in four years. Years, we got this, and we’re going to do that. We’ve already set this in place. We already have all these people moving into swing states. We’re going to give them amnesty. There’s all.
How many illegal immigrants in the last four years at 20 million. 20 million.
Millions. Millions of undocumented people, which is even crazy.
And they’re giving them fucking flight. You know, you could. I’ve seen it personally. I’ve been on flights. I did a seminar in Tucson. And while I was in Tucson, the border patrol agents that trained Jiu Jitsu, they were telling me, yo, they’re giving them flights. They’re giving him debit cards with a thousand dollars on them. They’re giving him an iPhone. I’m like, what part of it? Then I go on the flight.
I go on my flight, and I got immigrants in front of me, like this woman. And she seemed very innocent and. And legit. She didn’t need to be vetted. She’s just. She didn’t never been on a plane before in her life. And on her back.
Do you know that part of that is a secret way?
Oh, they really want to track.
That’s not what it is, Brian. You don’t even know what the app is. The app was for shipping. That was. It was originally made for people come over to this country. Oh, look at.
Okay, he’s not going to strike with him. He doesn’t want to strike with him. He’s got his back.
Whitaker has to get out of the first round. It’s going to be tough. The first round is a typhoon.
But if Hamzat can’t get Whitaker here, he’s dumping a lot of energy.
You have no choice. You got it. You got to take that back. If you’re a Whitaker, you got to go. Balls.
I’ll tell you what, comes out very comfy here.
If. If. If you’re a Whitaker fan, you just want this to go past the first round.
He’s such a good grappler, man. I’m telling you, his grappling is extraordinary. When you see him with that Olympic gold medalist.
I didn’t see him with an Olympic gold medalist.
Oh, dude, the scrambles, dude.
He’s already on his back, and it’s.
He’s winning the scrambles. When Olympic gold medals, bro. He’s nasty.
Did you see what he did to Rockhold? Did you see that grappling match?
It’s manhandled. He manhandled his manhandling beasts. He. And he’s physically a beast. He’s a strong. Yeah, for Hamza to do that, too. Now, I don’t know what kind of shape rock hold was behind you, bro. I don’t know if he had been.
Can we do picture in picture over here?
No, no, we can’t do that. Damn.
You guys got a billion dollars.
I know. We’re looking back and forth. It’s ridiculous. Maybe next time we’ll get a monitor above that monitor. Maybe that’s what we’ll do. Maybe that’s the move.
Well, we used to have it where we’re looking that way, but we wanted to be able to show things on the screen sometimes, man.
Whitaker’s been through everything, though. He’s such a veteran.
But I can get you a good deal on a big screen.
Hey, whatever. You know, you don’t want to know.
Who’S watching this closely. As b. Nickel.
Well, Bo Zickle and Bo Nickel and Hamza would be a crazy.
Three minutes left, and he’s got both. Oh, and he’s got a body triangle in one second.
Almost, almost. Let’s go.
Let’s go. Just like Khabib. Just when you escape Khabib, he doesn’t give up and reset. He just takes you down from that.
Position and then you right there from.
That position, you lose that little victory that you had. Yeah.
And it’s also tiring because a lot.
Of people would reset and stand up. Okay, he escaped. He didn’t let him. He. It. It was like he took him down.
Right there, right away. Did he didn’t explode out of there quick enough.
But Whitaker expect this. I bet he’s got to weather this storm. The first round’s tough.
No, you do though, because Hamzat this what he does. The first round is a.
He’s conserving his energy though.
Yeah, he’s not really burning off too much, man. He’s riding him here. Just that scramble and he’s winning the round 100%. All right.
I get a little excited. Get a little.
If he gets under the chin, it’s a real problem because he’s got the grip of death under.
Yes, but he was on from the face there.
He’s all over him. He’s just like. No matter how he.
He’s countering the escape.
It’s just beautiful flow. His flow is perfect. He’s just riding him everywhere he goes.
He won’t be able to do this for five rounds.
This is that thousand yard stare, you know, the guys have when a guy’s just overwhelming them. The grappling that is almost scarier than getting beat up on the feet. Like when Ensa Barbozo was getting mauled by Khabib. It’s like, you know, oh, look at that. He’s tapping.
He tapped already. Oh, that was weird. That was weird. That was weird. It wasn’t even around his neck.
Hey, here’s the thing. You probably give him the title shot.
You finished in the first round, you.
Give him the title, right?
This probably up DDP Strictly.
It looked like it was around his chin.
He got his chin. He was breaking his chin. That’s what it looks like. He was just.
Yeah, because he just opened his mouth.
You don’t want to have you that. That hurts.
He just opened his mouth funny. Let’s. We’ll. We’ll get a look at it in the.
I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe it was around his neck.
Around his jaw. Yeah. I think he’s breaking his jaw. Yeah, because usually when he’s doing something with his jaw, he was like, he’s open his mouth.
Usually when you. I mean, you could tap somebody if you have a good enough squeeze around the jaw, but it takes a few seconds. But what if he broke it isn’t like some instant.
Happen so fast. What if it hurts? Look at this shot.
From downtown, too. He shot so far out.
Once he gets a hold of you, it’s so. Damn.
He just needs to get his pal.
Here we go. Here we go. Right here. Right. See, it’s around the. The mouth.
That’s around. That’s around the jaw.
That was around the jaw. Usually that takes. Usually that takes time. You know what it was a neck crank.
You know what it was like a neck crank.
I don’t. I think that too, but I think he might have broke his jaw.
Yeah. As fast as he tapped, too.
Why did he throw his mouthpiece away?
Because he wants a fan to have it.
Now he’s got to get a new one and then mold it.
Who are those two guys? Did they. A contest?
Holy. You guys get to be Craig side bro.
I think you have to. If you beat Whitaker, the number three contender in the world. Not just that, but dominate.
He didn’t get touched. He didn’t get touched. He ran through him and he strangled him in the first round.
He might be the guy, dude.
He might be that guy. That’s. And this is the best time to be a fan. When a guy’s coming up, there’s nothing better.
And here, think about this. 85, right? So this guy was killing himself to get to 70. At 85. He’s the man.
Now here’s the question. Can he wrestle DDP or Bo Nickel?
DDP is not as good a wrestler.
Well, his standup is more advanced than Bo’s.
Yeah. His standup is very dangerous. Yeah, he’s Hamzatz. Yes. Khamzat’s very good on the feet. Very good on the feet. Not that Bo’s bad on the feet, but Bo’s newer, more seasoning. You know, he hasn’t had a real war yet. Hamzat’s been through the Gilbert Burns fight. This is crazy, though. That was super, super impressive.
Never seen him tap that fast. It was really. He must have gotten them just.
You know how Robert Whitaker is.
That was. That was a strange tap.
He might have hurt his neck in the middle of the scramble or something. It might have hurt his neck when the. The choke went on him.
You know, he might have felt something pop in his jaw.
That was worst case scenario for Strickland.
Yeah. Robert’s jaw right now.
He’s holding his mouth. Weird. Yeah, I think he might have broke his jaw.
Good for homes going through all that.
Yeah, man. Look, dude, that guy’s a scary ass. Scary. That grappling is next level.
I mean, he’s given. He’s given a gold medalist fits. What are we talking about?
Yeah, he’s a beast. I can kill him out.
He’s kind of chilled out, though.
Let’s see performance. Yeah, man. I’m going for the belt.
Thanks, bro. I love you, my brother. You’ve been always picture for me.
Religion, respect. He’s basically saying, no one wants to fight with me.
Where. Where was Strickland?
List? Oh, is he at the top?
That was win streaks, so DDP’s at 8.
I was like, so he puts that choking. Quick, man.
Yeah, it’s on the jaw. It’s definitely not.
He hasn’t fought Strickland yet.
No, no. He might have just.
I think his mouth open and he just. It was intensely uncomfortable.
I mean, you think about the beating he was taking before that, how exhausted he must have been by then. He might have had his mouth open. I get him out. Give me a microphone.
He lives in Abu Dhabi now. Damage, too, is moving around.
Is that because of his relationship with the. That. That dude, that Chesney dictator? Yeah, we don’t know.
The other problem you have with him.
Becoming champ, there’s some crazy stories about that guy online.
There was a guy used to fight for the UFC who worked for him, wound up getting killed.
But he became, like, number two in the country.
If Khamzat becomes your champ, the issue. If he. If there is an issue we don’t know about, where he can’t fight in the States, it seems there’s Something going on there. It. For him to fight for the title.
It. It makes things complicated if he can’t do in Vegas.
Well, the problem is if you Want to get 6 seats for your homies. And homies are wanted for war crimes.
Kadirov, yeah, that’s the guy.
I mean, he literally. Do you know that he had. Kadirov had a. They gave him an award for being the most sanctioned leader in the world.
Like, doesn’t he like throw gay people.
Off roofs and there’s a lot of things going on. Yeah. In fact, they were.
How tall are the roofs, though? I mean, we’re talking single story. Just teaching a lesson.
I know of. I know they were Chechnya and they.
What if they’re just throwing them into.
Pools and it’s like they’re exactly.
Yeah. It’s a joke. Everyone’s having fun.
Straight guys too. We just don’t hear about it.
Straight guys aren’t complaining about thing.
They get bored. They’re in the mountains. Everybody goes off the roof.
It’s not good if you’re a gentler spirit in Chechnya. It’s not like.
Is that Steve Harvey in the house?
Mus. Mustache. Just strapped. Sergio Ramos. How dare you?
Love killer. I like that he’s taking all this time off.
Please don’t. Rest that brain, sir. Rest that brain, sir.
Yeah. And get a full camp.
Yeah. Don’t take any short notice fights.
I don’t know who he’s gonna fight. Do you know who they have Volkanovsky slated to fight? I think it might just be straight for the title. If maximum Max wins. If Max wins 100, it’s Volkanovski. Unless there’s a rematch. Wouldn’t you think? If Max wins tonight.
Or you go you a Lopez Volkanovski?
Daniel Lopez Volkanovski.
Because then don’t think Lopez has to win one more.
That’s what I’m saying. Against Volkanovski.
Oh, lope. Oh. Oh, I see what you’re saying. Lopez versus Vulcan.
It’s dangerous. Oh, we got the wine.
Get us some glasses. Necessary.
You know what I’m saying, though, Joe, for Lopez. He needs one more, I think before he gets to the big show. So you give him Volkanovski you beat him.
Now we’re cooking with fire.
Yeah, no, I think so. But if I was Volkanovski, I’d say Nah. Title fight.
Yeah, but he’s 36 years old, maybe 37 by now. Yeah, he earned the title fight. He was one of the greatest featherweights, if not the greatest of all.
And he took short notice fights for them.
Yeah, he said the big one, the Makachev fight, never should have taken that.
And that first one, I thought it was a good fight.
I think we were biased because he was the smaller guy.
No, but the first fight was a good fight.
It was a really good fight. I’m saying he dropped him. I walked away from it. Thought it. I thought he won.
But then were we biased because it’s like that David Goliath, you know what I’m saying?
Possibly. It was very close fight, let’s say that. But then the, the rematch when he gets KO’d like that on 10 days notice. You can’t do that, man. No, you can’t take that. I mean, I love the fact that tried, but you can’t do that.
Well, think about Hughes. Ranked what they have one number one. Pound for pound, he loses that and then loses the next one.
He had been drinking and you know, partying, living the life, eating burgers. And then all of a sudden they’re like, hey, you got 10 days.
Lose £40 against Makachev wine.
Yeah, Calm down, settle down, come down for us.
Well, I was like, I ordered it. We couldn’t find it.
Somebody stole our wine. Jeff had to go home, hunt them down.
This is, this is the best one, dude.
What do you think about this, Brian?
How do you have him winning?
Well, I think that Topirio wins when he gets you against the fence. He’s amazing. He’s great. I just think that Max is not going to get against the fence. And I think that Max has never been put. He’s been put down once and I think he’s a bigger guy. And I think he’s just as good a boxer.
And that’s a big deal, cuz very few people are as good as Toria. Now, I might be wrong.
I, I also, I also think the narrative on Topuria being like this crazy knockout artist, like an Alex P. His background is grappling, you know what I’m saying? Don’t get Me wrong. The crack.
But when it comes to standup, I would edge Max Holloway.
As far as, like, pure striker.
Right, but you saw what he did to Josh Emmett, right? He just took away all Josh Emmett’s weapons. Start beating his ass.
Max Holloway. Now, I love Josh Emmett, but Max Holloway. Different animal.
Different animals. The thing about Josh Emmett, he comes with that nuclear option. Dude, bro, what he did to Bryce was crazy.
Also shorter, though. Yeah, Max a lot taller.
Yeah, he’s as wide as he is tall. Yeah, Josh Emmett’s a tank, man. He might be the scariest one punch guy in the sport.
Oh, he was twitching and out cold and they were trying to stand him up. I’m like, do not stand him up. Let. Leave that man. Get. Get some medics in there. That was a bad one. When you see the guys twitching.
Now, Dana said they’re gonna go to Barcelona or Spain.
No, I’m good. Hey, you know what?
Not drinking. You’re not drinking. You know what?
It could be piss and I wouldn’t know. Brian. I don’t know.
And watch it. It’ll breathe.