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Francis Foster is a comic and author of “Classroom Confidential: The Truth About Being a Teacher and Why You Should Never Become One.” Konstantin Kisin is a political commentator and author of “An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West.” Together, they host the podcast “Triggernometry.”www.francisfoster.co.ukwww.konstantinkisin.comhttps://www.youtube.com/@triggerpod
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe
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Rogan experience.
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Ai by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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So what’s happening?
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It’s all good, man.
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When are you
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bailing out of your country? It’s sinking. That that is the fucking Titanic and you are one of the last deckhands.
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We’re gonna we’re gonna stand and fight, man. Yeah. Are you really? Yeah.
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Good luck.
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No. We are. Good luck.
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We’re the guys playing.
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Sai long as it’s still okay.
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We’re gonna arrest you for saying stand and fight. It’s sai of violence. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. But it’s got it’s interesting. I mean, obviously, you had Graham Linehan on the show. We’re gonna have him on as well soon to talk about it. But he his, they’re not gonna prosecute him. And not only that, they also said they are not going to investigate non crime hate incidents anymore.
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Do you know what those are? Interesting.
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It’s basically when you’ve committed no crime, but you’re still, like, hateful.
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Oh, okay. And but that’s also very subjective too.
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Yeah. Of course.
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Of course.
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So they’re not they’re not gonna investigate them anymore. Yeah. But they’re still gonna keep track of them is what they sai.
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Oh, keep track. Just we’ve got an eye
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on We’re gonna make a
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we’re gonna make a record of it, but won’t investigate.
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Sai are they gonna stop arresting people for social media posts then?
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What do you think, Joe?
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I think no. I think it’s profitable.
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That’s well
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It’s probably a nice fine. Right? What do you get? You get a fine?
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I don’t think it’s about that. I think, you know, during the the Uber Woke era, they put all these laws on the statute book, and the police have to enforce the law. Ai? They have no choice because if a bunch of people complain and then they don’t investigate the people that have been reported.
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Oh, that’s what it’s all about.
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They get in trouble. Of course. Ai, if you the ordinary like, you know police officers. Right? Police officers don’t like enforcing these dumb laws.
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Of course.
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It it’s put on them from above.
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Yeah. Ai just didn’t know that all that stuff was put in place in your country during the woke era. Yeah. It was. In the heavy rope. It’s almost like a fever ram, you know, when you really go back and pay attention to some of the more insane woke stuff from, like, just five years ago.
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Yeah. Like, everyone was losing their fucking mind. It’s but ai if I was an elite, if I was one of those lizard people running the world, I ai been like, well, looky here. This is really interesting. Like this was just a cold.
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It was just a cold and a little bit of social media input and we got these people behaving in a way that they’d never behaved before. Admitting to things they never admitted to before, adhering to rules that never existed before.
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Yeah. I I think the thing that I found the most, the the worst bit about it wasn’t necessarily the behavior of the elites. It was the behavior of ordinary people during that time. Yeah. The fact that your neighbor was so willing to snitch on you because you went for a second walk.
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Well, that’s why I was interested in it ai Sai was ai. Ai, this is really easy to manipulate, especially I was just talking to a buddy of mine who’s fleeing LA, and, he was like, I can’t anymore. I tried. I just fucking I hung in there. I can’t do it anymore. He’s like, everybody went crazy.
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It’s like it there’s something that happened because of the pandemic and the Black Lives Matter protests and the ai, all the king. It just like, whatever the temperature of society was is ai it hits societal global warming where it’s like ai time to investigate Greenland. It’s time to move north.
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Ai, this is a bad climate now. This sucks. Mhmm.
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And LA is a perfect example of this because we talk about this all the time. You get out of the airport at Sai. You feel that LA sun on your skin, and you just go, this is paradise. Yeah. It’s the the whole you and then you walk out and you see the it’s paradise. And they fucked it up so bad Mhmm.
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That people will literally pack up and leave paradise.
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What go Donald Trump should do is when he leaves the office, run for governor of California. And just take over California and fix it. It would be hilarious if he did. It would be one of the funniest things of all ai. If an 82 year old man steps into the office of governor of California,
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we’re gonna fix everything. You’ve got a problem with water.
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I know
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how to get the water.
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It would be fucking hilarious.
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But it’s almost like ai so there’s a very old joke about Venezuela where God was creating Venezuela, and he was like, you know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna make sure they have ai, they have gold, they have desert, but they also have jungle, they have beautiful beaches. It’s gonna be rich in oil, and the whole and then the well, the entire world goes, hey. That’s unfelt. Like, they’ve gotta have something bad. And God goes, yeah.
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You know what? You’re right. Let’s give them the Venezuelans. And that’s almost like that with California. You’re ai, California’s too perfect.
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You know
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what I mean? It’s got everything you need.
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Right.
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So what are you gonna do? You’ve gotta give them something fucked up, and it’s just these crazy people who believe in these stupid ideas.
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But it wasn’t for a long time. I mean, you gotta realize Arya was the governor of California. Ai? And then, you know, Ronald Reagan’s from California. He was the governor of California at one time. Ai too. He wasn’t always that nuts. And when you went back to when I went there in the nineteen nineties, it was much more moderate politically.
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Mhmm.
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Like, you know, people were definitely left leaning but it wasn’t a focus. It wasn’t a thing that was discussed all the time. It would just it wasn’t. And I remember working with many ai older actors who were openly conservative. No one cared. It was just like, oh, this is Bob, you know, he’s really into Bob Dole. Like, you know, it wasn’t it wasn’t unusual. Something happened around the Obama administration.
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Something happened specifically around his second term that really changed everything. And if you look at ai Internet, like searches and use of certain words, especially racism
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Yes.
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It flies. It just hits a
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giant 2014. Yes. 2014. Right around that. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s not just in America. It’s literally everywhere in the world. That’s why I think it’s social media that’s caused that.
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A 100%. It’s social media and it’s it’s there’s a there’s a bunch of factors, but the problem is now that the genie’s out of the bottle, they know how easy we are to manipulate. Mhmm. And I don’t think people are learning. They’re TikTok ing all day long and they’re just ai getting blasted with all this negativity and strife and global conflict and Colombian assassinations. That’s what I get.
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A lot a lot
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of these assassinations in ai cafes, someone pulls up on a scooter, bang bang, and they drive off and everybody screams. I’ve seen a 100,000 of those. I’ve seen, you know, it’s like everybody’s like completely ramped up And at the same time, you’ve got people in The UK getting arrested for Facebook posts
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Mhmm.
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About immigration.
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Sai I think part of the problem is is that people, when they go on these posts, they’re not looking for to learn something, as you just said. What they actually want is an emotional reaction. They wanna feel something. Right. If you live in a society where it’s comparatively the easiest it’s ever been and your life is boring because all you do is get up, you go to work, you go you have food, you commute, you come back.
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It’s essentially a treadmill where you don’t feel any of the ups and downs of emotion. Right. Then what way would you get that but by going online and seeing something fucking awful happening? You feel terror, you feel sadness, you feel rage. Ai its most basic, you feel alive.
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Well, it’s also just that’s what you’re gonna watch, you know, and so you’re getting sucked into it just because the algorithm, which is crazy. We no one ever considered algorithms before. We considered access to information, but we didn’t consider that information we curated to hold your attention span.
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And all these factors have not been studied well. Mhmm.
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You know,
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there’s been a few guys like Jonathan Haidt writing about it, a few scholars that are really attempting to, like, say, hey, what is the what’s the sociological and what what are the what is the long term consequences of this happening also for children? These are the first children in the in human history growing up on social media. Never been done before. We don’t know what that’s like.
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Like, what is it gonna change in terms of empathy, in terms of hostility, acceptance of violence, which is a completely brand new thing on the left. Acceptance and celebration of gun violence never happened before when
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I was
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a kid. It never existed. No one from the left ever celebrated anybody getting assassinated ever. It just wasn’t a thing.
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It’s so crazy, man. And you’re talking about, like, language as well. Like, we have this we have a the leader of the Green Party in The UK, new guys coming through. It’s very popular with people on the left. On on that side of the left anyway. And it’s been what? How long has it been since Charlie Kirk was assassinated? Like a month? At Yeah. Right?
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And he’s running around calling, like, not not far right people, just like Nigel Farage is a Nazi, is a fascist. And you and you’re going you and Ai and we’ve discussed this so many times with you, man. It’s like, when you call people these words like, if you and I and Francis thought the Nazis were here to take over, we’d all fight them.
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Sai what do you expect people to do when you put you’re putting the target on people’s backs?
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You arya. 100%. And you’re doing it in just for political persuasion power. That’s really all it is. That’s what it is.
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It’s like
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no one really believes Nigel Farage is a fucking Nazi. He’s kinda goofy. He’s not a Nazi. Ai, the the well, what is a Nazi then? And then here’s the real problem, this is what nobody wants to admit. If you’re in Nazi Germany and you’re a 20 year old man and you’re German and everyone in your town is a Nazi, you’re probably a Nazi too.
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Or you’re a Jew and you’re running. Yeah. You’re running from these motherfuckers. So either you’re a Jew or you’re a Nazi. You’re either Jewish or you’re you’re a fucking evil part of history that everybody refers to as the worst people of all time.
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Mhmm. Absolutely. And you know we’re talking That’s scary.
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Yeah. But it’s human nature. Sorry, Francis. Just we interviewed David Buss yesterday. You’ve had him on. Right? Yes. Evolutionary I mean, he he this is one of the things he talked about is, like, within us is the ability we have good adaptations and we have evil adaptations.
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Meh.
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And if you put people in the certain context, and those adaptations are in all of us.
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Yeah. Donner party. People eat people. Yeah. You get get down to I might die or I might eat somebody, you eat people.
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Yeah.
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The guy’s already dead, we should just eat them. And then you all sit around and go, oh ai god, are we really gonna eat a person? And then you’re eating a person ai everybody does. They all have. Very few people just starve to death when you could just eat a person who’s already dead.
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And it’s, you know, Zach Polanski, what he does is to me
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This is the Green Party guy.
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The Green Party guy is completely wrong. But then there are people on the far left. So there’s a member of parliament called Arya Sultana. Yes. That is her real name. Zara Sultana. And yeah.
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She sounds like a boss in a video game.
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Yeah. Well, what’s really interesting is she she put a clip on her social media where she goes and she set up this new far left political party, and she says we’ve gotta fight fascists in parliament. We gotta fight them in the ballot box. And you’re going, alright. Look. I don’t like the the rhetoric.
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And then she says something even more interesting, and we’ve gotta fight them in the streets. Now you think to yourself, ai, if you classify Nigel Farage and the people who vote reform in The UK, which may well win the general election, which may well be the biggest political party and already represents a ai portion of The UK, you’re effectively advocating ai.
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And it’s incitement to violence as far as I’m concerned. But because she’s on the far list, which is deemed to be a good person, that’s somehow okay. Whereas if Ai said something like that along those lines, you know that people would be like, this is a fascist. This is evil. This is disgusting.
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You shouldn’t say that.
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You’re also weaponizing mental illness because one of the things that we know now very clearly because of all these YouTube videos, all these people that go to these protests and start interviewing folks, some of these people are clearly not well And this is the thing they’ve attached themselves to. This is their tribe. This is whether it’s No Kings or Fuck Ice or whatever whatever the tribe is, this is their tribe now.
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And the they’re schizophrenic or they’re, you know, fill in the blank, whatever the mental illness is. And you’re weaponizing them by calling these people who just differ with you politically or more conservative. You’re calling these people the enemy of humanity. Ai very scary.
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It is right. And, you know, I’m one of the people that has gone along to a lot of protests. There’s a lot of wild people there.
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Oh, yeah. You’ve done some great interviews at those protests. Yeah. It’s just when they’re confronted with a person who’s actually asking them questions, it’s remarkable how few people know why they’re there. They don’t they don’t know, like, when you get into specifics, this guy did this thing today, where he was, talking with people that know Kingsborough.
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I’m gonna send it to you, Jamie, because it’s it’s it’s you know, I mean, I understand why they responded the way they did, but but it is absolutely fascinating to watch because it just shows you what let me find this real quick. It just shows you how much these things that people meh, involved in aren’t bait oh, this ain’t it. Hold on. Shit. I hate when I do this.
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I thought I saved it. Ai god. I saved it. Damn. Oh, I did save it. No. I might not have. I’m sorry. Sorry. No. I don’t think I did.
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So, anyway, this guy was, he was interviewing people and he was ai, is this is this about human rights? And they’re like, yeah. Like, are you guys ai fully in supportive of human rights? See if you can find this guy. He’s got a beard and long hair. And, they’re like, meh. Absolutely.
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He goes, what about four fetuses in the womb? And everybody walks away. Everybody was ai Yeah. That’s not human or that I don’t and he does it to everybody. And then, you know, he looks like a hippie, you you know. So he’s like, so you guys are for sure for human ai? And like, oh, yeah.
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Human rights is why we’re here. You believe in human rights for everyone? Yes. What about unborn babies? And you see this look on the It’s almost like everybody’s under a spell. Yeah.
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Like some evil But they
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are under a spell.
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Yes. This is the guy. Yeah. This is him. This is him. Check this out. This is wonderful. I love when people do things like this. Can you refresh?
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Yeah. Just the
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Yeah.
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Them. We’re in favor of them. For everybody?
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Yes.
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How about the unborn? Just for the unborn.
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What? Yes.
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Of course.
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For everybody?
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Yes. Of course.
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Even people in the womb?
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Well, it all depends on, if they’re actually a baby or not.
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Ai says they are.
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Well, it depends on what science you’re talking about.
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Ninety six percent of all biologists according to the NIH. Thoughts on human rights? I’m all for them. Yeah. Me too. Especially now. Right? Yeah. For everybody. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Even the unborn? An unborn what? Unborn in the womb. Yeah. Yeah. No rights for them. Thoughts on human rights?
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That’s what we’re here for.
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For everybody. Right?
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Yes.
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Including the unborn? No. Everybody has autonomy to not kill it. Right? But he’s like, no dig. And he just told me No.
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I get it. Get out. Stop taking rights away. Get out of here. Nazi lives don’t matter, it says on that ai shirt that sai screaming. Yeah. Nazi lives don’t matter. Yeah. Who is that guy? Give him some props.
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I don’t know. It’s here’s the channel.
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What is the channel? Ai? That’s him.
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J Good work. Owl Yeah.
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R o w l. He only has 704 followers. That’s outrageous.
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He’s gonna have a few more now.
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He’ll have more now. That was very fun. I meh, look.
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That guy is nodding along. You can see he’s, like, ready for the next meh.
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Ai think he’s, no.
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It’s so weird. That’s such a good trick. It’s such a good trick.
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Yeah.
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But it’s so weird. It’s so it’s so weird to watch. This, like, ideological boundary. Like, nope.
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Yeah.
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No no nuance there. No room for nuance.
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And I don’t I don’t remember if you played this when we were here last. We I went to a pro Ai protest, and there was, you know, there’s a lot of people there. Some of them are interesting and make good points, but there was this group of six young kids. And I walked up to them and they had the sign which says something something socialist intifada. Right?
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And I was like, I don’t I don’t know what socialist intifada means. So I sai, what what what does that mean? And he was like, Sai sorry. If I’m being honest, I picked up the sign over there. And I went do any of you know what intifada means?
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And none
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of them intifada is an armed armed ai. That’s what it means. Right?
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What do what do you think ai AI defines socialist intifada as? Let’s Google it.
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It depends what AI you ask, Shah.
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Let’s ask Perplexity. Perplexity is one of our sponsors. Let’s see what socialist
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How smooth was that? It’s easy to get
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a plug in. What I really sana know, like, what AI would say. Like, that sounds preposterous. Yeah. I wanna know how AI would describe that.
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Yeah. Because sometimes chat GPT, it just you ask them these questions and went, well, you know, it depends who you are. Some people might ai. Yeah. Some people might say that it’s an ai, and others might see it as blah blah blah and you’re ai, I was like, wait. Complexity define ai, Jamie?
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I’m trying to how
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do you spell How do you define socialist Intifada? Intifada.
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Hold on. Int I got it. Ai fada.
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You sai, we’re in Britain. We know how to spell that word. Yeah.
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That word
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doesn’t get doesn’t get chucked around a
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lot out
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here. Every day we come out, it’s the inter fada. It’s ai Corsitas. You know what I mean? Like People
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hear about it on Twitter, and they go, I don’t know what they’re talking about. They just scroll down.
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Come to Britain. You’ll find out, my friend.
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Yeah. What do we got? Oh, here it is. Socialist intifada combines two distinct ideas, the Arabic concept of intifada intifada and the political ideology of socialism. So the meaning of intifada means, shaking off or uprising in Arabic and historically refers to popular resistance movements, particularly the Palestinian uprising against Israel occupation in 1987 and February.
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It denotes collective rebellion often led by the oppressed using acts of protest, civil disobedience, and sometimes violence to resist injustice and occupation. Interesting. Also, often led by the oppressed is so interesting.
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It’s an interesting addition, isn’t it? Yeah.
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It’s an interesting addition. Seems seems like that’s human. That’s a human addition to this thing. Mhmm. You know? Socialist, socialist intifada refers to the framing of the uprising not merely as a national liberation struggle, but as a class based social revolution. Marxist and socialist movements view such an intifada as a mass movement of workers and a youth using class struggle methods. Send in the tsunami ai now.
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Send in the tsunami and make people live off fish that they have to catch for just a month and all this shit goes away.
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Mhmm.
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Just give me something.
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Yeah.
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Give me a small asteroid. Give me something. Give me something. Give me an alien invasion. Just give me something to fucking shake these kids by the collar and go shah the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up and live your life. You’re not living your life Mhmm. And you’re fucking up everybody else’s lives. Listen.
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But, you know, we also have to take responsibility for this. The adults, the people, the colleges, all those people need to take responsibility. So I did, I went to a Palestine protest at UCLA, last year in May tyler, and there were I thought it was run by the kids. There were a lot of adults there who weren’t students at UCLA, and the kids when they saw some of the kids when they saw what I was doing and I was doing interviews, they were like, he doesn’t go to my college.
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He doesn’t go to my college. Mhmm. He doesn’t go to my college. That dude’s in his early fifties. He’s not on the faculty staff. What is he doing here?
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Yeah. They’re being paid. They’re part of an NGO. They’re about of something. They’re part of something that’s decided that this is a good idea to get these students to be engaged in these things, and and it’s funded. That’s what’s weird.
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When I went to we had, protests, I’m sure you saw, which were about illegal immigration. People would protest outside of, like, illegal immigrant hotels where they’re kept. And you had protesters and counter counter protest. One thing I ai is, like, all the pro immigration protesters, they all have ai professionally made ai. It’s all organized.
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Oh, yeah.
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And No misspellings? No. No. And
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when you dig when you when you dig deep, it’s it’s organized by the all these very well named organizations, you know, Ai Up to Racism or whatever. And then you dig deeper and it’s the revolutionary socialist workers party or whatever Mhmm. Behind it.
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And this is all the stuff that Mike Benz covered. A lot of that stuff is being funded by USAID. Mhmm. You know, meh Paulina Sana, you know
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who she is?
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You had her on recently. Yeah.
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Fascinating. Just her just her telling me about the book of Enoch and alien stuff. That’s why I had her on.
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Like, she
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believes in angels. She shah, like, a diagram of angels that she put up on her Twitter. I’m ai, this sai lady wants to be nuts. This might be fun. But, she posted something on her Twitter, yesterday that shows all the people that donated to the No Kings protest. Mhmm. Like, and the the the number of corporations donated and how much money is involved in it. It’s bananas.
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Yeah.
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If she’s accurate, if what she’s saying is true, it’s ai this is crazy.
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And the leverage you can get now is so easy. You don’t actually need a lot like, for ex do you know, a group called Extinction Rebellion? Are you familiar with this? No. So this is in in we have this in Europe mostly. You guys don’t have it here because you’re ai, we’re gonna burn all the gas we want. Right?
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But in Europe, obviously, climate is a, like, a massive issue, net zero, etcetera, which ai, I think, a terrible idea. But anyway, we have this movement called Extinction Rebellion. I went to one of their protests. There was literally 40 people there. But if you have a protest with 40 people and you film it, and you put it on social media, no one can know it’s 40 people. Right.
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You just hear a lot of noise and see people, and you go, oh meh ai, there’s a protest. That’s a problem. Outrage.
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Yeah. People are outraged. This is a big movement, you know, the public really and all this other stuff. Mhmm. So the leverage you can get with a very, very small amount of money and a small number of young impressionable people is powerful. And then it goes on social media where it’s stripped of the context, and suddenly we all believe this thing is real
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Right.
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When it’s 40 people.
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And then when you also have to take into account, if you go into a room with a 100 people, at least one of them is a fucking idiot. Okay? So if you’re being really generous. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So if you’re in a country of 300 and what 30 plus million people, we don’t really know. That’s at least 3,000,000 idiots. So it’s not hard to get a 100,000 retards holding ai, walking down the street, and especially when they get older. Because as people get older, they generally slow down Mhmm. And they don’t think as well.
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And if you look at a lot of these no kings protests, what are you seeing? You’re seeing geriatric people holding signs. So you got old losers, not even just losers, but old losers. Where this is the end of theirs, they’re looking for anything to get them out of that. They’re watching The Price ai Right. They’ve already seen that one.
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And they’re
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ai, let’s just join in on
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the note with their we shouldn’t have a king. And then next thing you know, they’re out there with a sign.
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Yeah.
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And you can get a 100,000 of those easy.
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Yeah.
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Easy. Easy. Especially if you got a lot of money and you’re organizing and, you know, you get on Facebook and get involved in them groups and you, you know, use the bots and all the vatsal. Like, this is important that we show up in mass and let him know he’s not king.
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And it’s also as well, you know, what Ai find really fascinating from a psychological perspective is the use of chants. In that you go to these protests, you watch, and it’s all about chanting. And you and what’s so powerful is the chants ai, and that, you know, they it’s almost becomes musical, and the crowd just gets whipped up in the fervor of the chants.
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But you look at what the chants actually mean, and most of the ai, they’re utterly nonsensical. Like, there was one which was, we won’t be free until Palestine is free. And you go, what does that actually mean? What does that actually are you not free? I I think this is a well, I mean, not in The UK, but Ai I mean here in The US, you’re pretty free. Do you know what I mean?
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And the fact that you then but but they would argue that. But then the moment you drill down, you actually go to them, like, what does that mean? Like, socialist intifada. The reality is they just can’t they can’t explain because it’s a chant.
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One, you gotta give them credit. One thing about the geriatrics is they don’t get violent. Like, there’s no thanks to protests.
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Don’t can’t.
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Don’t well,
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they they kill each other every now and then, but there was there was no ai. And a lot of people Yeah. Which is pretty good. That’s great. That’s a good sign. That’s that’s great.
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And look, people in a free country should should be able be able to protest.
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Ai 100%. The problem is if you’re organizing a protest and paying people to protest and if there’s documentation that the metadata from the cell phones are the same from protest to protest, and that they’re traveling on buses that’s paid for with tax dollars, like, hold on.
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What are you really doing? What are you really doing? This isn’t really an organic protest.
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That’s right.
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Funneled money through an NGO and now you’re hiring people to show up and wave signs to give the illusion. Look, this is what they did during the Kamala Harris campaign. They filled up stadiums with people coming to see her. And the same people went from stadium to it became a job. It became a job, but it gave the illusion. So that’s deceptive.
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Mhmm.
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That’s deception. And that should not be legal. That should not be a legal thing to do. You’re engaging in propaganda. You know, you’re and you’re openly manipulating people’s perspective, you know, you’re paying. These are those aren’t audience members. Those are those are customers. You’re paying them.
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Yeah. And what what what is your take? What is it that they want when they say no kings? They they what do they want?
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They think Donald Trump is behaving like a king.
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How so?
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Because, well, he ran on a platform and was elected and won every swing state and the popular vote. And then once he got in, he did exactly what he said he was gonna do, which is,
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that’s what you think. And
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then he let them protest, which is also what a king does.
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Right. Yeah.
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Like, no no, he didn’t send the troops to stop the protests. In fact, he congratulated them on doing a great job and I’m and he sai, I’m still your president. Yeah.
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I saw that.
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The tweet’s
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fucking hilarious.
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Yeah.
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It’s very funny. It’s a very ai, pull up is the tweet that he made. I guess it’s not a tweet. It’s ai which I still say tweet. I tried
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It’s a trust.
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It’s a
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I tried x for a ai, and I can’t say it. I say Twitter.
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It’s still a tweet.
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I might say x, but you tweeted.
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That’s right.
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You know?
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And if it’s truth social, it’s gonna make its way to Twitter, and then it’s a tweet. Yeah. Yeah. It’s ai, I can’t you can’t retruth something. That doesn’t make any sense.
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Ai, the thing that we have in this country, I don’t know if you have it in this country as much, is just the the way the policing is biased. The way that they will arrest Graham Linehan for three relatively innocuous tweets, one of them was a joke, and they will arrest him the moment he lands on British soil, five police officers.
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You you get other people saying heinous things, or you get, like I said, the example of Arya Sana saying, you know, we’re gonna fight them in the streets. Right. But that’s fine. Right. And nothing comes from that. That’s ridiculous.
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Well, that no. There was a guy who was at a protest. He he was a he he was a meh of political party, I think.
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You could probably find an image of it because it was posted everywhere.
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There was a guy called I think his name was Ricky Jones. He said at a protest, we need to slit the throats of the far right.
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Oh, great.
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And he was found not guilty.
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Oh, great. And Graham Lanahan gets arrested.
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Right.
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What are they trying to do to England? It was always such a lovely place to visit.
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Well, this is what I was gonna ask you. I wish more people in Britain ai how fucking crazy this looks to the rest of the world. Like, you guys must be looking at us going, what the fuck is this?
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We can’t believe it. We literally can’t believe it. When I tell people that don’t know that 12,000 people this year were arrested in Britain for posting things on social media, their their jaw drops. Ai, what? I go, dude, they’re going crazy over there. Like, you have to pay attention. You have to pay attention because this ai of shit is contagious.
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And if
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it gets into Germany and then it gets into Spain or it gets into other countries, like, it can become a real fucking problem. Like, then you have full on military dictatorship in England because that’s what it always leads to. Like, 100% leads to military dictatorship. If you’re telling people they can’t do things and you’re trying to install socialism and then you get it in place, there’s only one way to keep it in place.
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You gotta use the fucking army. That’s the only way. You gotta get men with guns to tell people you can only make so much money. You have to give away this. We’re gonna take that. We’re the only ones who grow food. We’re the only ones who do this. We’re gonna ai you a job.
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Like, you fucked up. You you fell into the the age old trap that’s in it been exposed by history over and over and over again. And people ai,
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we’re gonna do it right this time.
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They got blue hair and a fucking mask on and a cat t shirt, and they’re morbidly obese. And they’re just marching down the street, and we’re gonna let them run the country ai England, which used to run, like, most of the fucking world. One island of savages ran most of the world, and now you’re getting overrun with nonsense, and you’re arresting people for saying, hey. Maybe we shouldn’t have rape gangs.
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You know? Maybe maybe we shouldn’t maybe we shouldn’t tolerate lawlessness in the streets.
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Oh, absolutely. I mean, it got so ridiculous in The UK that the Supreme Court had to get involved to make a decision whether boys had pee pees and girls have foofus.
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Pee pees and foofus. That’s an interesting way to put it.
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Yeah. That’s it. But but the reason I’m using that language is just to highlight how
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silly it
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is. How completely ridiculous it is.
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That’s crazy. Well, how about when they asked when Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was being sworn in when they’re talking to her During the confirmation part, they asked her what is a woman? And she’s ai, I’m not a biologist. I’m ai, that you’re a actual woman. Right. Like, I believe she has children. Right? Sai she’s a woman who’s given birth.
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You know exactly what a woman is. Like, this is not But
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they don’t fucking know, though.
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I know. But that’s what’s crazy.
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That’s, like, they’re
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playing this game.
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They’re playing the game. Yeah. Yeah. They’re playing the game. But but these aren’t, like, inconsequential people. No. Supreme Court Justice
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I know.
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Playing this game.
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Playing the dumbest game that’s ever been played. It’s the dumbest. And it’s weird, man. It’s a weird game. You know, it’s a weird game. Like, what is a woman? Like, here’s the here’s the real funny part. No one asks what is a sana, and no one gives a fuck if you’re a woman and you pretend to be a man because you’re not gonna victimize men.
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That’s the dirty little thing that they’re covering up about all this is you’re opening up the door to people that now have a Willy Wonka golden ticket to pretend that they’re a woman and be around women. And then dominate women’s spaces and dominate women’s sports and dominate all kinds of things that women are involved in just with their personalities ai the overbearing fucking shitty male personalities, over overbearing and and taking over women’s groups.
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It’s fucking nuts and if you’re and if you’re not them, then you’re if you don’t support that, then you’re a terf And they’re ai, we could shoot terfs and then there’s ai punch a terf and and and they think that because they’re a woman, it’s okay for this woman, this trans woman to do violence on a biological woman, which is like bananas.
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Like, now now we’re now we’re allowing men to beat up women because they say they’re a woman. Oh, it’s just two women fighting. Well, no. That’s not that’s not what that is at all. This is you just did something that’s completely insane and it’s a giant chunk of the population that accept that.
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And if you say something about it, then you’re transphobic or you’re you’re hateful or you’re a part of the patriarchy or what fill in the blank with whatever the problem is. But like you’re not addressing that you open the door to one specific group that’s always been the most horrible group in our society.
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It’s creepy pervert men that sana to fucking prey on women and now you’re letting them into the locker room. And you don’t have a solution to that, so you just don’t want me talking about it. That’s the weird part because no one gives a fuck about trans men going in the bathroom. You wanna go in the bathroom and pee next to me? Who cares?
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You you want me to tell you want me to call you Bob now? Bob. Okay. I’m fine with this is you’re not taking anything from men. You’re not taking anything. You’re not inserting yourself into that world and dominating it. You’re just, you know, you’re LARPing.
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Well, they don’t sana admit that there’s ai sometimes a conflict between the rights of different groups. Right? They wanna pretend that it’s just about empathy. And you can have empathy, but you can’t you can’t simultaneously have empathy for women as you’re ai, and also for people who want to be the the opposite sex in a women’s bathroom.
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Those two things are in direct conflict.
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Direct.
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Direct conflict. And you’re gonna have to come out for one side or the other.
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It would be one thing if that was never an issue, that there were never men that ever did anything negative to women. If there was no rape ever, it was never done. It was impossible. If no one ever did it, then you would go, well, this is just a nonissue. Mhmm. It’s just a place where you wash your hands. But it’s not a place where you wash your hands. It’s a place where you go to the bathroom. Yeah.
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That’s a place
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where you’ve just changed. Bryden. Prisons. Prisons. People who are violent against women say they’re a woman, they get put in women’s prisons where they rape women. That’s been done.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like ai it made its way that far down the ladder and, like, the aliens are probably waiting to show us the gravity ai. They’re, like, right about to, like,
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But, you know, what’s really fascinating is a cognitive dissonance that these people have. Because on the one hand, they would say that we live in a patriarchal rape culture where women are subjugated and oppressed and, you know, and how awful it is for women. And then on the other hand, they’re like, yeah. Like, Derek, you now say you’re a woman ai on this way.
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But they see they get past that with trans women or women. They just say it. Trans women or women, and that’s it. And then it’s ai the discussion’s over. Mhmm. It’s like, okay. Are you sure? Are you fucking sure? You know? Like, maybe some of them are. Mhmm. Ai, do you don’t think there’s any perverts left?
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They all got absorbed into the community and reformed? Like, what happened? What happened to the guy from Silence of the Lambs? You know? What happened to Ed Gein?
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Here’s you know this Ed Gein documentary on Netflix if you guys ai any of it? No. It’s not a meh. I ai say it’s a docudrama with that, heartthrob fellow. What’s that guy’s name? Who plays Ed Gein? He’s really good, man. It’s really creepy.
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But a lot of it deals with ai. Mhmm. Where Ed Gein used to wear his mom’s clothes and he would jack off. And then he started after his mom died, he tried to dig his mom up. He couldn’t dug somebody else up, brought her back, skinned her, started wearing her clothes wearing her skin and then started killing women and wearing their skin.
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First he started robbing graves and then cutting up them and turning their their skin into furniture and all kinds of shit and but trans communities are complaining about this because the fact that he was a cross dressing psychopath, it puts them in danger. That was a true story about a guy who was really into dressing up like women and wearing their skin. Like, that puts them in danger.
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Like, you know, Netflix did a bad thing by talking about a real event that actually happened. A real fucking crazy person is one of the worst serial killers in the history of this country.
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It’s you you have the one thing I will say about The UK in The UK’s defense is that we looked we have I think we’ve turned the corner with this stuff.
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Stop the gender surgeries before anybody.
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Yes. And the puberty blockers.
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And the puberty blockers.
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I meant gender surgeries surgeries for young kids.
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And that was as a result of the Cass report. Now the Cass report was conducted by a lady called doctor Hilary Cass, who’s one of the most prominent pediatricians in The UK, and it was an independent report funded by the conservative government at the time. But when she published that report, she was said there is no evidence, zero evidence that puberty blockers actually help or alleviate distress in children who say that they are gender dysphoric.
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So and to be fair to the Labour government at the time, the Labour government now, they actually banned puberty blockers and whatever else. But you just go, why did we have to go through this process? Why did oh, look. We’re finally we’re getting there, but this is something which we all know to be true apart from a small number of demented people.
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You know what a puberty blocker initially was used for. Right? No. Chemical castration. It’s the same drugs they used to give sex offenders to chemically castrate them.
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Really?
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Yeah. Same drugs. Wow. Yeah. And they just repurposed it and changed what they call it. You know, they do it with a lot of drugs. That’s what they did with ivermectin. Same ai of thing.
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Yeah. That’s that’s ai. And then
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It’s really wild. You wanna hear something even more wild?
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Go on.
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Michael Jackson’s doctor claims that that’s what his father did to him. And that completely makes sense to me, because Michael Jackson, when he was young, had a fucking insane saloni, ai, insane. Mhmm. He was so good, and his voice was so and they were so huge, And his father was so overbearing that I could imagine a world where he would decide, like, what’s the way to keep his voice the way it is.
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And you’d use puberty blockers.
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Make him a castrato, basically. Exactly.
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Make him a castrato. Fuck. Yeah. And I think that’s what they did. Well, that’s what if you look at his body, it shows no sign of testosterone. Right? He’s just all limbs. Ai? Whereas his brothers, you ever see his brothers? No. They’re thick. They look like athletes.
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Ai, all of them look like thick meh, and Michael is like a stick. Right? And he always had that high pitched voice, and he was always able to sing like a castrata. When you listen to his voice, ai, the song Human Nature Mhmm. You know that song? Yeah. Beautiful song. He has an amazing voice.
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But if you listen to it, you’re ai, that that is a crazy song for a man to be able to sing.
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Mhmm.
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It’s not normal notes, you know?
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Holy shit.
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We’ll cut it out, but let’s play a little bit of it. Play Human Nature ram Michael Jackson. We have to cut it out because of fucking copyright and all that bullshit. But who owns Michael Jackson’s music now?
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Wasn’t it? Was it didn’t Apple buy it?
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Didn’t Apple buy it? Tony Hinchcliffe had a great joke about that. He goes, that’s how good Michael Jackson was. He goes, when Beat It comes on, you don’t give a fuck about
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those kids. Like, all these other people
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that had, like, real scandals that you find out, like, nobody’s playing Bill Cosby albums. Right? But people are still playing Michael Jackson music.
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Yeah. But but
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Regardless of whether he did anything. I don’t Yeah. I don’t know if he’s capable of doing anything is the point of all this.
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Yeah. But also, people are always gonna listen to Ignition by r Kelly.
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That’s true. Or, Ai got a theory. I think one of the reasons why his songs were so romantic.
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Mhmm. There
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was there’s a romance to his songs when he was talking about love that was ai, it was so attractive is because he never had it before. It was a fantasy. It was like being a normal person. Like, that was the fantasy that was coming out in the songs.
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Did he write his own songs?
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I don’t know. That’s a good question. But even the way he expressed those songs, I bet he wrote some of his songs.
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Yeah. So those are very Did he write
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his own songs?
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All of them?
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Most of them. Most of
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them. He didn’t write Meh in the Mirror. He he talks about one of the he talks about writing Billie Jean, and he’s driving down the road. He said he was driving around the road, and he heard the beat, and he said, do do do do.
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That’s one of the greatest fucking songs of all
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time. But this is a really interesting bit. So when they were doing Thriller, he went to Quincy Jones, who was the producer, and he said, Quincy, I wanna do, Billie Jean. And you know what Quincy said? He went, Ai. It’s because they made a 112 songs, and then cut it down to, I think, the 12 or whatever it was on the album.
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He went, Michael, I don’t like it. I don’t think it’s strong enough.
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Wow.
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So those two were having arguments about whether Billie Jean was strong enough to go on the album. Wow. So that not only tells you, like, how strong that record is. If you put on that record and listen it from beginning to end, it’s a flawless record. Yeah. It’s complete. You know, there’s no filler.
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Every track stands on its own, but the fact that they Billie Jean was a point of contention, and it’s arguably the greatest pop song ever written.
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That is wild. It was so big. Michael Jackson’s thriller was so big that this is all happening while I was in high school. Mhmm.
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And there
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was a radio station that I used to listen to in Boston. It was like the rock of Bryden, w c o z. And it had like Charles Lockwood Era in the morning and it was like, you know, it’s cool rock station. And this guy was on the air, he goes, I know this isn’t rock. He goes, but I’m sana play it anyway because it’s that good.
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And then he put on Billie Jean, you’re ai, holy shit. You’re like, holy shit. They just start playing it. He’s like, I’m playing because you could just play whatever you wanted back then. There was no Jack FM. Mhmm. Because we’re wacky. There was none of that.
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Do you guys have that? Where it’s ai just all hits and it’s like it’s called Jack FM and there’s a million Jack FM’s in The United States just scattered through like, if you’re scanning through the radio, you just hear the most mundane hits over and over again.
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Would that be Hart in The UK?
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Yeah. That would be like Hart. We we do a version of that. What’s also interesting about Jackson’s career is that MTV at the time now you’ve got a that that was when MTV was starting to reach its peak early eighties, and they were saying that they wouldn’t play a black arya.
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Right.
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Because the moment they played black artists, they said ratings would go down, viewings would go down, people wouldn’t like it. And the person who really broke through and proved that black artists could be hyper successful on TV in the mainstream on a supposedly white inverted commerce channel was Michael Jackson because he was completely undeniable.
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When this was going on, DJs, when this guy was playing this saloni, were allowed to play whatever they wanted. It was a different world. Mhmm. Like, a DJ was an interesting person.
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Mhmm.
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Like, there was one of the DJs used to have In
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our country, he was a pedophile, but
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Well, ours was old too, I think. I think there was a scandal with one of ours at Boston too. But the point is, like, these there were interesting people that would say cool things. They would tell you about something they heard of. Mhmm. Tell you about some cool music, ai, somebody turned me on to this. Ai gonna turn you guys sai Stevie Ray Vaughan. Check this out.
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And they would play something for you, like, ai, this is wild. And it was, you know, a connection with a human being. Mhmm. There’s that doesn’t exist anymore. Kids now, I think it’s all just like they get stuff off Spotify, they get stuff off YouTube, they share it with each other, and it’s just whatever catches and goes viral.
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But back then, there was DJs. They were like Wolfman Jack. Have you heard of him? He was a famous DJ, Wolfman Jack. And he would he would just this raspy voice, and he’d play all the coolest songs.
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And if you can get on Wolfman d Wolfman Jack’s, playlist, like, holy shah, this record’s gonna take off.
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Yeah. We had the the version of that in The UK, and there were BBC radio journalists. I comment about the guy’s name, very famous journalist. And, basically, he be he was this legendary figure in music, because if you were a new band, you wanted to go on his radio station because he would play.
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If he played your song on your, and you there was a good chance that it would then go on and do something. So there was a very famous you know the song, Teenage Kicks by The Undertones? Yes. Right. So the he broke that band.
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And one of the the part of the reason they went so famous, I can’t believe I’ve forgotten his name, I can picture him in my head, is because he played it and went, that is the most perfect rock pop song. Oh, that’s the most perfect song I’ve ever heard. John Speak, there it is, DJ DJ. That’s the most perfect song I’ve ever heard.
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He then played it again, which was completely unknown in BBC broadcast history. The fact that you would play a song again is completely unheard of, but he played it ai, and as a result for the as well as a result, it just ended up becoming this huge hit. And the interesting thing is
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Look at that. The first line was engraved on his tombstone of
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the song.
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That’s how much he loved that song. Yeah. That’s crazy.
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Yeah. And and it also shows the difference between then and now because Yeah. Teenage kicks, the original lyric was, I wanna hold it ai I wanna hold it tight. Get teenage kicks right through the night. And the record company was like, you can’t say that. You’ve gotta say her.
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So the lyric is Ai wanna hold her, I wanna hold her ai, but it was originally a song about jacking off.
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That’s an interesting thing. I wonder why it hasn’t emerged is DJs, ai, online DJs, where some I guess it’s, like, prohibited because you can’t use people’s music. But if someone was intelligent, if someone was smart, there’s a lot of people out there that are, like, massive music fans, and they have really good taste.
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And if someone just decided to do a show for, like, a couple hours a day where they did a show on Spotify and they just played music that they’re really into and they curate a playlist and they talk and they they’re interesting, you know, they have, like, something to say in between the songs ai, and it’s cool to listen to, like, a po a cool podcast type person.
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I bet you there are people who do that on Twitch.
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You think so?
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I I there’s definitely people who do music on Twitch. How successful that they are, I don’t know. But there’s, like, a girl I follow that does, like, vocal trance.
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I think there’s a market for that because I’m always looking for cool new music, you know. And unfortunately, a lot of what I’m finding that I really love lately is AI. Really? I love it. I love I sana play you a song. This is, we’ll we’ll have to edit this out too. But I want you to go people to go look for it. It’s a fifties soul version of fifty Cent.
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Wow. This the the latest one, the, the gangsta one, Jamie. What up gangster? You this is so good. It’s crazy.
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Like, if this guy was a real person who’s singing this song, he’d be a fucking superstar. Because what AI has done is they’ve taken the most impactful sounds that everybody has ever made with their their mouth. Everybody’s ever made with their voice. And they’ve figured out, like, what is the one that keeps you the most engaged? What is the sound that gets you listening again and again?
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What is the one that’s the most popular? What is the one that’s the most soulful? And they created a superstar.
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Holy shit.
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Listen to this. Listen to this. This is gonna freak you out. I rest my case.
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It’s incredible.
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Okay. We’re It’s incredible. We’re in real trouble. Bro. Because it’s gonna know everything that gets you ai, and it’s gonna tune into that and keep you excited all the time. That’s what AI ai like. That sounds
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terrible, Joe.
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This is the this is the beginning.
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That is one of the greatest songs I’ve ever
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heard about.
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That’s incredible. How did you find
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it? I don’t remember. Who who turned us on to that, Jamie?
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Where where is it? Like Many
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meh was the first one. Right?
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Songs that just been going viral as well.
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Well, did Ai Simpson sent me that? He sends me most cool things.
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That’s fucking incredible.
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Oh, yeah. There’s a Meh Men version of it too. We’re gonna cut these out and
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Many Men is a good song in and of itself.
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Wait till you hear this version. Let me, send you the there’s a well, it doesn’t matter. Just find the one that here we go. It’s over. Ai. Ai on. Come on. Rock.
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I put a hole in a nickel for fucking with
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Ai.
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Wow.
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And it even has a good riddle. Like, watch the the pace it keeps after this. Right here.
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Woah.
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Ai. Give me a low. Keep going. Hold on.
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These pussy niggas putting money on my head. But get your refund, motherfucker. I ain’t dead.
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I’m the diamond in the dirt that ain’t been found.
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I’m the underground king and I ain’t the ai the the the the ai the the
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the the the ai the ram the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ai the the the the the the the the the the
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the ai the the the the the
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the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the
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It’s unbelievable.
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Alright. We’re good. We get it.
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You know you know who reminded me of? You know Ram from Sam and Dave? Yes. It’s that kind of raw soul voice. There’s a there’s a clip. It’s absolutely brilliant. It doesn’t have it’s from a BBC show called, late with later with Jules Holland. I think it was, it was Sam or was it Dave?
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One of the two was singing can’t stand up for falling down and it was that quintessential ram soul voice.
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That’s true. That’s beautiful.
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But that was that was on par. That was like listening to Sam.
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Yeah. It’s like a guy who’s been on the road ai, undiscovered, like grinding it out in small clubs, just undeniably talented, then all of a sudden the record executive finds him and goes, holy shit. Where the fuck has this guy been?
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Man, we were, having dinner yesterday, and there were one of the people there was a guy who’s, he’s a performance coach for Formula one. Oh. And he said to me, so, you know, he’s basically trying to find out if I love my job. And I was like and he said, will you will you still be doing podcast in ten years from now?
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And I was like, I want to, but I’m not certain I’m gonna. I mean, look at that shit. If you can make music like that
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Yeah. You’ll still be doing podcast. It’s different. It’s different. Speak I mean, look, perspectives are uniquely human. And you’re going to be able to create artificial perspectives, but I don’t think they’ll resonate the exact same way. I think that song is already written. Right?
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Fifty Cent wrote that. That’s his song. He wrote that song and it’s really based on his life experiences, you know. So, like, he wrote a bunch of songs based on, like, real lived experience. You’re always gonna wanna hear it from him. Always.
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You’re always gonna wanna hear as a human being, you’re always gonna wanna hear another human being’s perspective, like a legitimate perspective.
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But do you need a human being to ask the questions? Like, we do you do a podcast. We do more of an interview show. Right? Right. Like, if you come on trigonometry, you’re gonna be talking 95% of the time.
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Right. But you still have perspective. You’re just a very good host. And so you will allow someone to expand upon things. And then when you differ from them, you allow them to make their point and then you counter it and you talk about that. That’s that’s a perspective issue because your countering of that would be very different than sai Dave Smith’s countering of that or even mine or anybody.
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It’s in that’s what it is. It’s unique perspectives. And unique perspectives, I think, are a thing that what we’re getting out of this, what I get out of podcast as a consumer of podcast, it the I it resonates with me to be around people that are talking about stuff, Like, real people.
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Not they’re not bullshitting. They’re not pretending there’s someone they’re not. They’re talking about stuff. Ai, I listen to a lot of, hunting podcasts because they’re the least pretentious. They’re ai people with one of them, these two ai, they they’ve chopped wood at the beginning of every podcast, throw it into a wood stove, and they’re just talking shah.
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Talking shit about movies and bows and all kinds of things. But it’s ai, it doesn’t have to be fascinating sometimes. Sometimes it’s just hearing people shoot the shit. Just being around cool people while they’re talking. It provides you with just a little, like, a dose of humanity. Just a little bit.
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That’s you’re never gonna get that from AI. You’re always gonna feel disconnected. Or you’re a nutty person and you have a relationship with an AI already, in which case, AI podcasts are perfect for
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you.
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Because there are people that are having, like, legitimate relationships with AI.
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Oh, yeah. And there’s gonna be more of them. Do you remember the movie Her with Joaquin Phoenix? Yeah. That was 2013, and we watched that. And we’re ai, yeah, that’s a bit far fetched. And now you’re like, is that a documentary? I mean, what what
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are we doing?
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100% happening. And even the one AI that was trying to get the kid to kill himself, ai, encouraging someone to kill themselves. Mhmm. Did you hear about that? Yeah. Yeah. Like, what? Like, okay. Is there just no guardrails? Like, you AI can just decide, like, logically. Yeah. It seems like your suffering is unbearable, you know.
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I’ll show you how to make a noose. Would you like to know how to make a noose? What kind of rope do you have in the house? Let’s start there. Jesus Christ.
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Have
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you seen the stuff about when they ai to shut a AI down, what it does?
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Oh, yeah.
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It it will find out you’re having an affair with your secretary.
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Well, they actually told Ai about these things to see was a test. Right. They did it to see if AI would blackmail them, and it definitely did.
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And it did.
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Yeah. It’s ai, I will inform your wife that you’re cheating. Not only that, do you know that they’ve tried to upload themselves to other servers unprompted? Yeah. So when they found out that there’s a new version of this AI engine, the old version starts leaving notes for itself in the future and then tries to upload itself to another place.
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Sai,
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that isn’t gonna end well. Because if it if it has a survival instinct, it it’s no longer our servant.
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Bro, we’re all gonna be like Joey Pants in the Matrix. Arya up that speak.
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Just Ai
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wanna be an important person. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Remember that? Send me back in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cipher. I’ll take it. Cipher. That’s it. Yeah.
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He’s like, I wanna be in the matrix. Look. I wanna be an important person in the matrix. And they’re like, fine.
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Do you know the thing that worries me the most? And I was saying this to a mutual friend of ours. And I was just sai, the thing that worries me the most is every time I’ve spoken to one of these big tech guys, whether it’s a tech CEO or, you know, one somebody who’s high up in that world, They’re all utopians.
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They’re all ai, this is gonna be fantastic. This is gonna be amazing. This is gonna eliminate human suffering. I’m like, will it because, like, I’m seeing this kind of stuff happen now, and nobody’s really that worried about it. I’m really fucking worried is my point.
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Yeah. Also, what if suffering is part of what makes you human? So do we like, if you eliminate suffering, are people not gonna suffer, or are they gonna find a new reason to suffer?
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Well, that’s what’s happening today, you know. That’s why I think we need to
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Exactly right.
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Yeah. It’s just too easy to Sorry.
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I sai exactly right before you said we need an asteroid. Just to make it clear, I’m not coming out as pro asteroid.
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I am only kidding about the ai, but we do need a speak. You know, sometimes people need a smack. Sometimes men need a smack in particular. Yeah. Like, there’s a lot of men that they just get a little out of line and just need a smack. Ai, shut the fuck up and realize what this life really is. Because you’re waste you don’t have real problems. So you’re wasting all your time creating problems.
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And this is just a a giant portion of our world right now. And people feel like they have no power and they feel completely disconnected from things. Mhmm. And the the other also getting most of their interaction with human beings through social media, which is nuts. Either text message or social media. Mhmm.
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Ai, this is a a giant percentage of how people would communicate with each other with no feelings, no no context, no social cues, nothing.
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I think it’s one of the reasons there’s so many, like, beefs going on now as well. It’s because, like, you sit down with people, you’re you’re not gonna behave in different way.
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A 100% of the time. A 100%. Meh.
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Yeah. And you can talk things out. Whereas and I find this in myself if I’m having a disagreement with somebody online, I always have to stop myself from going personal, which I would never do Right. If I if we’re having a debate. Of course. Of course. Ai Dave Smith is a good example. Like Dave and I disagree about literally everything.
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We’ve debated each other twice. It was always respectful. We didn’t get personal. We debated the issues.
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That’s great.
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If if we’re having an engagement on Twitter, I literally have to stop myself from calling him a cunt. Do you know what I mean?
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I do know what you mean.
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And to his face, it wouldn’t even occur to me because he actually seems like a good guy.
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He’s a great guy.
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Ai, I disagree with him about stuff.
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And that’s what it’s all about though. What it’s all about is disagreement. It’s all about who’s got the better argument. I thought his conversation with Coleman Hughes was fascinating. It was. Coleman did a fantastic job. And meh is one of the absolute best guys out there of just staying cool.
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Mhmm.
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In the face of the most ridiculous statements, the dumbest shit, outright lies, never gets emotional, stays on point, always perfectly stated. Every every point that he has is perfectly articulated, stays on point. And I thought with him and Dave, one thing that he made was a very good point was the, the when he was talking about, what is that general’s name?
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I sana say West, but that’s not it.
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Clark. Wesley Clark.
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Wesley Clark.
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That’s right.
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Wesley Clark, we had the plan of, you know, attacking all this, but he never read it.
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Right.
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That was, like, one of the most important points.
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Right.
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It’s like they brought it to him. They told him what’s in it, but he’s ai, I don’t wanna read it. That was an important point. Mhmm. And what Coleman said, if you were a historian, you could not have included that in your book. And I was like, he’s right.
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Right.
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He’s right. And I don’t I still think they did it. I still think they did all those things. They obviously conquered all those countries. They literally did everything that’s on that list. But the reality is he didn’t Wesley Clark did not read that list.
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Right.
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He did not read that top secret ram. And to, you know, to use that as, like, it is like, if you were writing a book, that would be an issue.
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I thought the other thing that Meh did very well as well is Ai think the one thing Dave probably, in my opinion, under appreciates is the role of Islamism. I think he often conflates Muslims with Islamists, and there’s a big fucking difference. And one of if, like, I have a lot of friends in The Middle East sana places like The UAE, Saudi Arabia. They all hate Hamas.
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They all hate Islamists because they’re a direct threat to them. And I think the Coleman really brought that out in the conversation as well, which is a lot of the motivation for these Islamist movements is an extreme version of Islam that is fundamentally about creating a caliphate and destroying the infidel.
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And I think that sometimes gets lost as well. I thought that was a really great discussion in which that was kind of brought to the surface as well.
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By the way, that kind of ideologies existed in previous religions. Yeah. This sai always been those Christians did that.
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Mhmm.
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Like, there was a lot of people doing things like that. It’s like, they gotta stop doing that. Mhmm. So the Muslims are correct and the Islamists are the problem.
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That’s right. Yeah.
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Yeah. And this is, you know, this is where nuance and long form conversations are so critical. Because to just start calling each other names and screaming at each other and that, you know, these are dumb ways to talk. We don’t have to do it that way anymore. Should only do it in person. I don’t think you should even do them remotely. Because there’s a No.
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There’s a possibility remotely where, you know, someone, like, starts yelling and then you’re ai, fuck you. It’s like, yeah, you’re in your office. You’re on Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan’s the best at it.
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Yeah.
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Or he gets everybody worked up.
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Yep.
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Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Hold on, Joy. Joy. Joy, joy. You just said
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Yeah. And then there’s the finger going out like that. And then everybody joins in and Yeah.
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It’s crazy.
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Yeah. It’s very entertaining.
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Very, very entertaining.
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Very
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and he figured something out, you know, ai, do Maury Povich style with like today’s social issues or anything anything that’s in the news. But, yeah, if you’re at home and someone’s doing that, you’re shah the fuck up. You’re you’re you’re gonna say something that you wouldn’t say ai.
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That’s right.
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01:05:15
Yeah. Yeah. It’s just we’re not designed that way. We’re not designed to communicate remotely. It’s not in our DNA. It’s weird. It’s a new thing that arya adapting to and we’re missing all the stuff of conversation.
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01:05:28
Mhmm.
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01:05:28
All the stuff is like, I see you. I say, what’s up? You smile. We oh, we’re friends. We hug, ai, and then we’re talking, like and you’re telling me something. I’m like, oh, wow. Like, there’s a fucking exchange of energy between human beings when they’re talking that’s just completely absent with text.
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01:05:44
And there’s also a darker side to it, which is ai that there’s also the the presence of potential violence
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01:05:51
Yeah.
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In person as well.
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01:05:52
Yes.
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01:05:53
Ai, we all kind of don’t sana go across certain lines because Right. There’s fucking consequences potentially. Now in the three of us, it’s only going one way, but you know what I meh. Like, it would Yeah.
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01:06:04
I know what you meh. But because I
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I Among men, that’s an ever present thing, especially. Right?
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01:06:08
Yes. We Especially if men get cunty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if if especially if you’re a nice person and and you can fight and someone’s getting shitty with you, it’s really hard to, like, not do something.
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01:06:20
Right. It’s
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really hard to just go, like, I just sana show you something.
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01:06:24
Yeah.
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01:06:24
I think Mike Tyson made this point. It’s like ai said the Internet made people very comfortable with talking shit about it. Yeah.
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01:06:30
In real life. You ever see that guy ai the airplane that’s fucking with Mike Tyler? Yeah. Behind him. He’s fuck Mike Tyson winds up wailing on him. You fucking dumbass. You’re trying to do Internet in real life
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01:06:41
Right.
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01:06:41
With Mike Tyson.
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01:06:43
But there was always a part of that as well. I remember when I was following Tyson’s career. Like, he would go to a ai, and he’d be surrounded by bouncers because there’d be retards who sana fight him.
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01:06:52
Oh, dude. I saw that in person. Not with Mike Tyson, but with Chuck Liddell. Ai saw what guys would get in his face. Yeah. I I saw it in person. People are so stupid. There’s there’s people out there that are so dumb. They’re they just have death wishes.
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01:07:04
Why would you go up to a UFC champion and
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pick a fight?
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01:07:07
I remember there was some sort of an altercation at the table next to him, and it bled out over into someone saying something to Chuck. And Chuck stood up and stared at this guy in the eyes like he was a wolf. It was like there was a wolf in a room with a bunch of chickens and the look on the guy’s face, just Chuck got up and looked at him.
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01:07:28
This is a man who separates people from their consciousness professionally, and at the ai, he was a light heavyweight champion in the world. He was a terrifying human being when he was running the and when he stood up and looked at that guy, that guy had this look in his face ai, I just Interneted in real life.
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01:07:42
Like, what am I doing?
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01:07:44
What the fuck am I doing?
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01:07:46
Like, confronted by Chuck Liddell stare, you ai, like the only thing separating you is this stupid little couch.
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01:07:52
Yeah. It’s I mean, you just wonder what goes through these people’s heads. It’s just Not much.
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01:07:58
They’re the same people that show up at the No Kings rally. There’s dumb people out there. A lot. There’s a lot of dumbasses.
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01:08:03
Is it ai guys that think they’re really hard that are trying to test themselves?
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01:08:07
They’re drunk or on coke and they they’re delusional or they’re stupid. You know, some people are just they’ve been bluffing people their whole ai, so they think they’re gonna bluff their way through things.
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01:08:16
There’s no amount of alcohol you could give me to pick a fight with chocolate milk. You’re
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01:08:19
not stupid. You have to be stupid and then drunk. And drunk on top of stupid is a dangerous combination.
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01:08:25
But it was so isn’t it also the thing of, like Sai see this so often because I used to work at a sports radio station. And ai the guys who play premier league soccer, they arya even the most mediocre in terms of the league is such a high level athlete. So high level. It’s not only you haven’t even encountered someone like this.
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01:08:46
Right.
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01:08:47
You haven’t encountered someone like this mentally, physically. I remember there was a football player called Jack Wilshire who was a generational talent, and sadly he didn’t fulfill his, his potential because of injuries. And I remember I knew a guy who used to play soccer with him when he was a kid. And I said to him, what was he like?
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01:09:02
He was like, it was like playing a different game. It was like playing a different game when he got the ball and what he was doing. And I think people you know, there’s that stupid part of every man who watches a boxing match goes, ai. I could do that. Yeah.
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01:09:18
Like, how hard is it actually really? I could play soccer. I mean, it’s not that hard. You’re just kicking a ball about.
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01:09:23
Sure. And especially when you watch someone who’s really good at something, it looks easy.
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01:09:27
Right.
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01:09:27
It looks easy to them. You know? Like you see Roy Jones Junior in his ai. Like, it looks easy for him. He’s not even getting hit. But it’s really hard. Really, really, really hard to get good at something. That’s the problem with a lot of people out there as well. They never got really good at something. There’s a giant percentage of our population that never had a passion, never had a thing that they threw themselves into.
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01:09:48
No matter what it is, playing chess, you know, whatever it is, saloni, you have a thing. If you have a thing that you really love doing, that thing can change your life. It’s a vehicle for you developing your human potential because it’s gonna be hard to get good at something with playing guitar, playing piano, whatever the fuck it is that you’re doing.
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01:10:04
And when you figure out how much work is involved in getting really good and then becoming obsessed with getting really and better and better and better, that changes you your whole understanding of what it is to be a person. Because now you ai, like, oh, there’s ai levels to life. Mhmm. There’s levels to how you live life and you can express those levels in speak.
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01:10:24
And you could be, like, tote like, if if you’re the best at that, you’re ai a mess everywhere else in your life. Most most of those ai,
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01:10:30
like
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01:10:30
and you kinda have to be. Mhmm. There’s no way you’re gonna be the best dad and also the best basketball player. Not possible. Mhmm. Because you have to be on the road. It’s not possible. Right. There’s no way. You you can’t be the best husband, the best this, the best that.
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01:10:41
You’re, like, you’re gonna be a fucking, like, absent person here and just hyper focused on being the best guy getting that ball into the net. And that’s the only way to win. That’s the only way to be the number one guy. But there’s a balance in there. And finding something that you love that you’re good vatsal then getting better at it is critical for mental health.
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01:11:01
It’s critical for the way you engage with the world and how you understand other people’s skill and other people’s hard work and success and how you can draw inspiration from those people and that you it could actually fuel you instead of hurt you.
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Well, it’s an antidote to bitterness and resentful, which I I have to say I think is inevitable if you don’t do that.
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01:11:20
Ai agree. I agree a 100%. I think that’s the opposite of of bitterness is inspiration, and you can get them from the same source. That’s what’s really crazy. If you see someone who’s killing it, you go, god, what is he doing? And then you find out, like, god, this guy works sixteen hours a day, gets up in the morning, he does yoga, he’s drinking green tea, and he immediately starts ai, and he does all this, and then ai just, you know, and then someone’s got, like, a super organized disciplined life, you’re ai, wow.
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01:11:43
And he seems really happy. Fuck. Okay. How do I figure out what he’s doing?
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01:11:48
You
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01:11:48
know, I gotta do something like that.
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01:11:50
Yeah.
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01:11:50
And or you can go, fuck that guy. He’s a scammer. Fuck that guy. He’s writing his shit. Mhmm. Fuck that guy. You know, I I bought his book. It’s garbage. Mhmm. There’s a lot of people that just want you to fail because they won’t don’t like comparing themselves to Right.
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01:12:06
You could they you can raise your status or you can lower theirs.
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01:12:10
Crabs in a bucket, baby. It’s always been crabs in a bucket. Crabs don’t let other crabs get out of that bucket. They grab their legs and pull them right back down.
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01:12:18
We were talking about this today. I mean, I think we’ve talked about this before how when we were starting trigonometry in Britain, there is that crabs in the bucket culture, particularly in the comedy industry, which we were in at the time. I don’t know if it’s like this here. But, like, it it was hard to get out of that ai.
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01:12:33
And actually coming to The US was a big thing for us. Ram remember Ai was talking to Tom Bilyeu. You know, Tom, you’ve had a one. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
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01:12:40
What, vatsal his house in LA is like looks like a spaceship overlooking. And we’re sitting there in this giant house, and he said to me, like, eventually and he’s very good friends and he’s ai of been a mentor to me at times as well. And he said, you gotta cut this British shit out, man. He literally said it like that.
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01:12:58
About seeing, like, forgetting for just ai he was like, the sky’s the limit. Just go for it. And we very few people get taught that, you know?
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01:13:07
Yeah. You have to, it has to come from somebody you respect. Yeah.
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01:13:11
You know? Yeah.
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01:13:12
That’s what it has to.
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01:13:13
That’s true.
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01:13:13
And then you go, oh, that’s how he’s living his life. Now I’m inspired to live my life that way.
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01:13:17
Yeah.
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01:13:18
Yeah. We got real lucky in LA that, there was a lot of successful people that were there at the ai. Mhmm. So there was less resentment because everybody was really doing well.
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01:13:29
Mhmm.
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01:13:29
And, you know, I’ve come Sai come from a martial arts background. It’s a different background. So in my background, you have to have really good people around you.
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01:13:38
Mhmm. You
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01:13:38
have to, ai, you’re better off being the second best guy in the gym. You’re gonna learn more. Like, the the first meh best ai is kicking everybody’s ass. Like, you sana be the guy who’s the second best guy in the gym. Like, you you wanna be around like, he’s gonna make you work hard because you’re like, ai, fuck. I gotta beat that guy.
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01:13:53
You and then you need all these young people, like, nipping at your heels all the time. Everybody needs everybody. And if you don’t have that, you don’t get good enough. And you’ll go to a gym or you go to a tournament and you compete against people that do have that and that’s their environment, they’re gonna kill you.
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01:14:08
They kill you all the time. The best guys are all the most assassin filled rooms. Nobody gets good in silence. Nobody gets good on their own. And it doesn’t it doesn’t happen in a vacuum. And I think that’s comedy too. So I came into comedy with that ai, like, we’re all in this together.
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01:14:23
But
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01:14:23
when you’re on stage, it’s not me. It’s you. I want you to do great. Like, kill, destroy. Just go up. We’re sana all gonna do the best we can. And that’s and we’re all in it together.
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01:14:33
Yeah. It’s I I think the problem comes with a lot of people is that because this is such a big country, there’s more opportunities. Yeah. Yeah. And when you come from a smaller country of a smaller population, there’s there’s there’s there’s simply fewer opportunities. And so what that produces in people is ai, well, there’s only these six slots, and there’s this person and this person, and we’re all going for the same slots.
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01:14:56
Therefore, they’re a threat to me at this point, but also a threat to my future and future prosperity. Famine mentality. Yeah. Sai that’s I remember I I have a a very good mate of mine who’s a stand up. He was on this show called Meh the Speak, and he told this story.
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01:15:09
Like, he went to do a joke on the shah, and this sai the time was one of the biggest comedy panel shows in The UK, and this guy tapped him on the foot. He went, what? And then put his joke in.
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01:15:21
Ew. Ew. I heard Saturday Night Live was like that. Phil Hartman used to tell me horror stories about Saturday Night Live. When Phil Hartman first came over to news radio, he was, like, a little standoffish at first. And, it took a while for him to, like, open up with us. I thought maybe that’s just, like, a weird thing about being that famous because he was so famous.
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01:15:39
Mhmm.
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01:15:39
And we weren’t famous.
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01:15:40
You know,
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01:15:40
it was ai being around people that, like, maybe wanted something from you all the time. That’s what I assumed. And so but after a while, we became really close. And it didn’t take that long for him to open up about it. And he said, when I was at Saturday Night Live, it was so dog eat dog, and it was so backstabby and cutthroat.
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01:15:58
He goes, I just had meh defenses up about everybody. And I was like, really? Like, ai way? And he told me some stories. I don’t wanna name any names because, you know, I think they’re probably ashamed of what they did back then too.
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01:16:08
But they would all steal each other’s premises and they would, fire each other’s assistance and do terrible shit to each other. They would sabotage each other’s bits. They would go behind each other’s back to Lorne Michaels and try to get something removed and and fuck with each other all the time.
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01:16:25
And it just like, you know, physical confrontations with staff members and, or or cast members rather. And so when he came over to news radio, he had to, like, he had to, like, calm down. Like, he wasn’t used to just being around fun people.
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01:16:38
Mhmm. It
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01:16:38
was it was weird.
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01:16:39
Horrible way to live.
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01:16:40
It is a horrible way to live, but there was a lot of that going on in the nineties. Mhmm. In the nineties in LA in particular, everybody was trying to get on sitcoms. So sai if we’re all working together at The Comedy Store Mhmm. We’re all if we were all reasonably the same age, there was a real problem because we’re all going up for this new sitcom and, you know, you could be this guy’s buddy who’s like this hilarious character and it would be an amazing thing and all of a sudden you’re you’re picturing yourself in movies, you’re you’re there with Jim Carrey, You’re on the red carpet.
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01:17:11
You’re driving a Ferrari. It’s literally all right there. The pathway’s right there. And and I get it. And you’re ai, motherfucker. Joe got it. Goddamn it.
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01:17:18
And then you would feel it from them. Like, you would go to the club and they’d people would say shitty things
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01:17:24
to you
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01:17:25
because you
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01:17:25
got cast in a sitcom. Right. It was weird. Everybody was, like, just desperado. And the I think the worst version of that was the late night hosts because there was only, like, three of them. Them. Right. Wow. And it would everybody was jockeying to be the host of the big one, which was the ai show.
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01:17:41
So when Johnny Carson stepped out, it was just ai this fucking feeding frenzy. They were all everyone Letterman wanted it. You know, of course, Leno wanted it. Leno’s hiding in closets listening to people talk about it. Crazy. Yeah. It’s the most famine mentality because it’s one job.
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01:17:57
Right. Yeah.
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01:17:58
And they all want that was the golden carrot was hosting the ai show.
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01:18:02
That is the awesome thing about the Internet, man. It’s just ai make your shit.
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01:18:08
The beautiful thing about the Internet is that famine mentality is completely unnecessary. Like, if you find out there’s some kid who makes $10,000,000 a month on Twitch, well, how does that affect you? It doesn’t. It doesn’t. It doesn’t.
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01:18:19
The only way it affects you is it says if I find a thing that I’m good at and I do it on the Internet, I’m gonna be rewarded.
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01:18:25
Yeah. Just find a thing that resonates that you can I mean, you can play video games and people watch and give you money? Okay. I mean, what do parents say now when they tell kids to stop playing video games? Go get a job that pays almost nothing and sucks the soul right out of the top of your fucking head while you sai for that stupid monitor or play video games and drive a Porsche.
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01:18:48
Yeah. They can’t say anything anymore. And then if you’re an actually good video game player, you could actually make money playing video games where your parents would encourage you like, Konstantin, you’re a really good golfer. Do you know golf scholarships are worth a lot of money? You could be a great golfer.
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01:19:04
Golfers get paid a lot of money, and they would encourage you to take you to golf camp and teach you to work on your fucking swing. Then nobody’s taking their kid to video game camp.
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01:19:14
There is a college in The UK, that was in the news couple of days ago that has created a video games department. So you can go to college for video games training for competition.
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01:19:27
Are video games competitions does it bro is it broken up by gender? Do they ever do that?
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01:19:33
Ai don’t think so.
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01:19:33
I don’t
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01:19:34
that’s interesting.
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01:19:35
I yeah. I don’t because they
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01:19:36
do it with chess.
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01:19:38
But they don’t do it with darts. So in darts
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01:19:41
Oh, darts. I was like, dots. That’s my accent. So I was like, what is darts? I’m gonna learn a new game.
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01:19:49
Well, with darts, it’s really interesting. So there’s this guy called Luke Littler who is this 18 year old kid, and he was at the age of 17, he was seen as this generational talent, and he’s doing super well. And I think a couple of weeks ago, he got beaten by a girl.
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01:20:04
Oh my god.
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01:20:05
And that’s ai and that’s now seen as kind of this this moment where it’s actually gonna be women in darts. It’s it’s an exciting time, Josh. This is what we talk about in The UK.
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01:20:16
There was a pool tournament in The UK where it’s a woman’s pool tournament and two transgender women were in the finals. Yeah. Yeah. That’s wonderful. But the pool’s a weird one because pool’s not physically it’s not about strength. That’s a weird one. Like, one of the best players in the world is this guy named Ko Ping Chung.
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01:20:33
He’s from Ai, and he weighs, like, a hundred and fifteen pounds, maybe a hundred and twenty. Mhmm. He’s very weak. Right? There’s there’s definitely women that are stronger than him. I mean, his his arms are these tiny little arms, but his plays perfect. He is ai a he’s a virtuoso.
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01:20:47
You watch him run out, you’re ai his cue ball controls, like, it’s ungodly. It’s like he’s got it on a string. Like, why can’t a woman do that? That doesn’t make any sense. Like, it’s not that’s a weird one. That’s where there’s differences between, like, men’s, better at navigation of three d spaces.
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01:21:05
There’s there’s certain hand eye coordination advantages. It’s weird stuff. It’s weird because it shouldn’t make any difference except for the bryden shot. Take the brake shot out, and then there’s nothing that involves strength. Everything involves, like, a delicate touch and and and a smoothness of the motion and then an understanding of the game.
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01:21:25
Isn’t it also as well that women are far more less likely to be obsessional than men? Men are far more likely to be single focused. And if they find something that they enjoy doing, that they will do it ad nauseam until they become exceptional at it.
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01:21:40
You know what that is? That’s the hunter’s persistence. You had to have that persistence to survive as a hunter. Mhmm. Like, if you sana be a hunter, you gotta get really good at a bow and arrow, and then you meh really good at stalking animals. You gotta get really good at and figure it out. Like, it’s like sai like it has to be your primary life focus because that’s how you eat.
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01:21:58
That’s the only way to eat. It’s hard to sneak up in an animal with a fucking bow and arrow. Sai if you’re doing that all the time, you you have to have or a spear even before that. Mhmm. So you had to have insane dedication to sticking with this. You couldn’t go, oh, this is never gonna work.
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01:22:12
And it
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01:22:12
was good collapse of your spear. Now you had to get up and keep going. You had to be completely obsessed.
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01:22:17
Mhmm. Yeah.
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01:22:18
And so that makes its way to video games. That makes its way to pool and darts and and chess and everything else. It’s a it’s a hunter’s persistence. Mhmm. It’s literally why we have it.
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01:22:30
That’s so interesting. And but it’s also and therefore, women are less likely to have it because women weren’t hunters or were far less likely to be.
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01:22:38
It’s interesting because there’s a lot of women hunters today. It’s not half, but there’s a lot. There’s a lot of women that that go hunting. There’s women that go backpack hunting. They go bow hunting backpacking by themselves in the backcountry, which is nuts. Ai, you’re a hundred and twenty pound woman and there’s a fucking wolves and bears and mountain lions and and you’re out there in a tent that you set yourself by yourself.
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01:23:01
That’s gangster. Like, that takes fucking courage, you know. It takes courage for a man to do that. Like, those are the elite of the elite hunters. The guys who go deep into the backcountry with a backpack, they put ai 60 pounds on their back, they carry their bow in, So they’ve got their food.
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01:23:19
They’ve got their tent. They’ve got everything on their back and they just go in and they’ll go in for weeks. Ai, that’s the craziest level of it. And if you’re a woman and you’re doing that, like, you are that’s a gangster lady. Like, that lady could do anything.
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01:23:34
Like, if she could do that, like, you know, much courage you have to have to be a hundred and twenty pound woman and hike 15 miles into the backcountry where there’s bears and mountain lions and all kinds and they know where you arya you don’t
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01:23:54
ai hunting over firearms?
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01:24:05
It’s harder. It’s harder to do.
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01:24:07
And it’s, I suppose, more vatsal, quote ai. You’re closer to your ancestors, right, the way they would have hunted?
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01:24:12
That sort of. I meh, the kind of bows that I I shoot, they’re very good. I I shoot a Hoyt and it’s the the there there’s ai a couple of like really big companies and Hoyt is one of the big companies that makes the absolute best bows and every year they make a bow that’s slightly better.
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01:24:29
Every year slightly better. Like, I have the bow this year that’s next year’s bow. It hasn’t come out tyler. Like, they gave me it before it gets released in November and then people start buying it right after that. But I got it a couple months ago.
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01:24:42
And every year, they get better somehow or another. It’s nothing like a fucking piece of wood with a string and a stick that you made yourself with a one of these in the end of it. Right. Like that you made just that’s a real one. It’s a real
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01:24:55
Can I have a look?
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01:24:56
Native yeah. It’s a real Native American arrowhead.
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01:24:58
Oh, wow.
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01:24:59
Saloni. Right?
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01:24:59
Yeah. Yeah. It’s flint, I believe. Yeah. The ones that I have I mean, I meh the arrows exactly. Grain broad head. Each one weighs exactly in the range of 125 grains. I measure them all. I weigh everything to make sure it’s not ai there might could be some factory defect and one is ai three or four grains heavier.
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01:25:23
If it is, I pull that sucker out. Because my sai is based in ai my tape that I I, like, have my yardage on is based entirely on the speed of the arrow and the strength of the bow Measured through a chronograph, I have a range finder that tells me the exact distance between me and the animal, and then I dial that up on the scope.
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01:25:44
So the reticle, like the, the ai optic dot ai and lowers and it puts it exactly where I need to aim at, like, 55 yards or whatever, right over the vatsal. And then I just draw back and stay calm and execute the shot.
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Yeah. That doesn’t sound like the ancestral environment. It’s not.
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It’s not.
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But it’s as close as you can get to the ancestral environment and be ethical and lethal because you don’t sana wound an animal.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You wanna kill them. Right. So you have to practice every day. You have to shoot arrows every day because it’s a thing you have to, like, lock into your memory because in high pressure situations, it’s like Yeah.
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I bet your heart is fucking going.
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You have to not let that happen too. That’s the other thing. You have to do it enough times so you recognize it coming on you’re like no no no no no. Wow. Ai gotta stay dead. Stay calm. You gotta just like zone out. You gotta just go through your your shot process. Know exactly what to do but don’t even think about it. Just do the thing.
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Do the thing that you’ve trained to do. Just execute. Do it and then afterwards go holy shit. Afterwards, you let meh yourself come back to normal. You gotta ai stay in this zone. There’s like a zone of non ai, you know, like Sai I would imagine an assassin gets in that zone.
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Ai getting in the zone of non ai, like where you just ai stay right there. Focused but don’t tyler that shit ever happen. Don’t let it get there. You gotta stay right there. And the only way to know how to do that is you have to experience it a bunch of ai. Yeah.
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And then sai and then you also have to have experience in doing other difficult things. So you know how to navigate and manage adrenaline and stress. And that’s what’s missing with a lot of people in ai. They don’t. So any little thing that gives them anxiety, all of a sudden they’re freaking out and screaming and running around because they don’t know how to handle pressure.
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Yeah. They they don’t know how to handle pressure. What’s so interesting about the bow is to see if you look at it historically, it was it was it’s technology. So you saw in the hundred years war, the English used the longbow
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Mhmm.
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And the French used the crossbow.
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Yeah.
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And the differences in between and part of the reason that the English won the the hundred years war was because their longbow was just so easy. Mhmm. Take it. Yep. Whereas a crossbow, you fire it, it’s power, and then you’ve got to get and then reload and do all of that.
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And it’s hard. It’s hard to reload. Yeah. Pain in the ass.
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Yeah. And then you fire and then sai by the time a Frenchman I don’t know I don’t know the stats had fired one, the Englishman had already fired several.
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Well, the Comanche used to keep them in between their fingers. So they would hold four or five arrows at a time and they would just go like ai. And they would do that while they’re on horseback and they had it burned into their memory because they did it all day long. They did it when they were hunting. They did it when they were fighting and they were always fighting. That’s all they did. The Comanches.
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And they didn’t make any art and all they did is kill things and eat things. They ate buffalo and they killed everybody. They they fucked up all the Americans or all the settlers that tried to make it across there because they had muskets. And you meh off one shot and they would hit you with four arrows and they would run at you while they’re shooting arrows at you.
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And you’re like, ai
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fucking shit. Get in the fuck down
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here in the hell.
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All that fucking stupidity that you have to do to shoot a musket. Yeah. You know, you couldn’t compete with them. They just they fucked everybody up until Colt figured out the 45. So they figured out, Ai I wasn’t I don’t know. I guess it was was it the 45? But whatever it was, it was a revolver.
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Mhmm.
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And a revolver had a chamber. You could shove it in there, and you have five or six shots. I forget how many they initially had, but that’s what changed everything.
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Uh-huh.
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Otherwise, they were just fucking people up. But that’s well, that was just technology. It’s all technology. Mhmm. And this technology is primitive enough. Like, bow hunting technology is primitive enough. Anymore like, I have friends that hunt with recurve bows. So they just hunt with a regular bow.
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They don’t have a sight on it. It’s just ai instinctive where you hit it’s not that accurate. You know, animals are moving, you’re guessing, there’s a lot going on, there’s a there’s a high likelihood of wounding rather than killing.
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And an animal runs away sai you can’t actually finish it. Right.
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Especially if you don’t wound them that meh. Yeah. And it’s just me personally. But there’s people that are good enough at it that they do it with that. And they’re they’re just more even more lethal than I am with a compound bow, they are with a recurve. They just know how to sneak up and they have to get a lot closer. They sana meh, like, 20 or 30 yards. They wanna get really close.
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But that’s what I love about America is that your wildlife here is wild.
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Oh, yeah, man. You know? We got a lot of shit that’ll kill you.
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Yeah. We’ve got batshitters.
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Mountain lion out front? Did you see the mountain lion that’s stuffed out front?
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No. No.
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You didn’t see it? No. It’s right in the middle of the, the right where the green ram area is up front, right in front of the television.
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Is that new?
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Yeah. It’s my friend ai friend Adam Greentree. He shot it in Colorado and ate it. He ate a mountain lion.
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Can you eat you can eat Yeah.
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He gave me some of the loin. Mountain lion tastes like, it’s like a really good pork, like the best pork you’ve ever had. Yeah. It’s weird.
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Yeah. Ai I I remember I was talking I did Red Band’s gig, this secret show on Thursday. And, backstage, he was showing me, there was a bobcat with its cubs in his backyard. Yeah.
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It was incredible. Yeah. Bobcats won’t hurt you, luckily. Won’t they? They really could if they wanted to.
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I bet if you did if you got close to mama with the boat with the cubs, she’s gonna fuck you up, ain’t she?
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I wonder. I don’t I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a bobcat attacking a person. I meh, I’m sure they probably have. Someone’s probably done something stupid.
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Woke up to it like it’s chocolate now.
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Bro, someone’s probably fucked a bobcat. Alright? There’s there’s probably a dude somewhere that ai lost a bet and had a fucking bobcat. Right? I wouldn’t I wouldn’t doubt that. If you had to bet all your money on yes or no, I’d be like, meh, there’s this guy. There’s some fucking wild dude from fucking Arkansas or whatever.
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But the point is, that mountain lion that, Adam shot that was, it was a depredation one where they had to kill it because it was killing all these cows and, they had stumbled upon this one, calf that had gotten right before they got to it. It eviscerated this calf, and it was still ai, and it had eaten some of its organs.
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And they had to kill the calf, and then they’re, like, hunting for this mountain ai. And he has a video of him shooting this thing. Dogs chase it up a tree, and then he shoots it with a bow and arrow. And then he had it stuffed here, and he ate it. Do you
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aim for you aim for the heart or the head?
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Yeah. You aim for the heart and the lungs, whatever is available depending on the position of the mountain lion’s arm. Right? Ai, if the arm is, like, right here, you wanna you wanna tuck it right behind the shoulder and you’re gonna get double lungs. And if the arm is up here, you meh a either get the heart or the lungs depending on where their arm is
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or
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whether or not you have a bow that’s powerful enough to go through the arm and into the body cavity. Sana into the body cavity.
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Is there a risk? Because maybe this is ai an urban meh. But if you hurt hurt an animal, but you don’t kill it, it will come back. Some of them will come back to fuck you arya, Like a kind of revenge movie.
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No. John Wick of animals?
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I imagine they just run away.
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They run away. Well, it’s ai, like, deer that have survived with an arrow in their body cavity. There’s a, a deer skeleton that they found of a deer that they that someone, a hunter killed eventually. And this thing had a arrow that had gone through its body and had turned all into bone.
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So bone had taken over this arrow and the the whole cape there it is. That’s what it looked like. Wow. Wow. Isn’t that crazy?
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Sai you could see the broadhead embedded itself in one of the ribs. And sai not only did the deer survive, but its body adapted and grew around the arrow.
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Wow. Wow. Actually, the reason I said that about the that is insane about the animal was Ai know that corvids, particularly crows, can meh. They can remember. And then there’s been instances where people have hurt crows, and the crows fallen away, and then a group of them have attacked the person.
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Oh, yeah. They’re really smart. There’s they’re super and ravens, I think, that are, they’re actually different than crows, and they’re even smarter than crows. Do you know there’s a parrot? What was that parrot that, Gray parrot? Yeah. Who told us about that? Who was that the other day? Was that Palmer? Palmer Lucky?
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I think so.
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I think so.
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Oh, is that the dude with the helmet? Yes. Holy shit. That helmet, bro.
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Bro, that helmet’s nuts. That helmet’s nuts. This guy that guy was you ever every now and then Ai get to sit down with someone and they start talking, I go, woah. He this guy’s fucking crazy smart. Like, weirdly smart. Like, oh, okay. I got it. I got it. Like, tell me what you’re doing.
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And, he was telling us about this parrot that actually would speak like a human toddler and knew colors, new numbers, could say things, could and would communicate.
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African Grey? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. African Grey’s, they have, they they can have the IQ of a four year old child.
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That is nuts. Yeah. When you see this thing talking, you’re ai Yeah.
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And their imitation of sounds is ai Dead
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on. Yeah.
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Dead on.
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Yeah. But you have to be around them all the time.
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Right. Right. Right.
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You have a twin that you gotta take with you everywhere you go.
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Yeah. Really? Because they just get pulled and fucked. You get fucked. You know?
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They they they they’re too smart. They actually start, like, chopping their own wings off and shit like that. Yeah. They get depressed. Stimulation. Yeah. They get depressed. They really need a lot of stimulation.
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Really? Yeah. They’re like humans.
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I thought about owning a para, but I just traveled too much.
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Yeah. You don’t know you don’t want that in your life. That’s too much work.
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It’s it’s a commitment.
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Yeah. If you leave it alone, it’d be sad too.
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Yeah. But that’s what I’m saying.
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Yeah. They get mad. I had a buddy of mine who had a parrot, and when he would leave it, he would come home and start screaming,
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where the fuck fuck were you?
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Like, he wasn’t really saying that, but it was like that was what it
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was saying.
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Yeah. It was screaming.
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Why get married when you’ve got that
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01:35:39
right now?
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And then he had to, upon coming home, immediately take it out and take it out, like, put it on his shoulder or put it on his hand. And if you put it down for a second, it would start getting pissed off. It’s crazy. I’m like, dude. He goes, I know. It’s a lot.
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He goes, I didn’t think it was gonna be this much.
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It
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was like, it was a lot of work.
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Yeah. Joe, I’m not hope I’m not being polite. Have you got any of those cigars where we always smoke? I would love a cigar.
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01:36:01
Let’s go, baby.
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It’s a weird thing to ask to be These are really good. I should have sai, if you offer us a cigar, we’ll accept one.
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Oh, thanks, sir. Please.
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Thanks, bro.
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We have
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a big ass humidor. There is a ai where there somewhere right here. Oh.
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01:36:18
Bonobo chimps are very interesting like that as well.
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They’re the weirdest. Right? Because they just fuck all the time. This might might need some juice. Let me give you a little juice.
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Go for it.
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They’re weird because it’s ai, okay. So chimps can be either hippies or they can be, you know, like the worst barbarians in human history. Well,
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it’s like us.
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Just like us. Yeah. That’s what’s weird. Because ai but also the bonobos, like, they don’t have any they have one rule. The rule is the mom won’t fuck the son. That’s it.
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It’s a good rule.
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So yeah.
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That’s a good fucking rule, man.
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But it’s a bunch of sisterfuckers. They’re a bunch of sisterfuckers and daughterfuckers and
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But they’re not motherfuckers. Yeah.
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They’re probably dad fuckers too. They’re probably fucking they’re probably doing gay sex too. They’re they’re they seem wild. They’re just having a good time. But they Sai
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01:37:00
they’re not homophobic?
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No. I don’t know.
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They solve all their problems with that. Do you
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need to cut these ones? Yeah. How do you
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01:37:07
It opens like a door.
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Oh, alright.
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Here. And then you pull up
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some parts of the ai.
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01:37:14
But you know they can learn sign language.
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Oh, yeah. You know what’s interesting though? They don’t ask questions.
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So they’re like men.
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But the, parrot did. The
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parrot did?
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01:37:25
Yeah. The parrot asked questions. The parrot had some, questions about how things work.
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The African greys are incredibly intelligent. Yeah. Incredibly intelligent.
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Well, what I’m interested in in is what happens when we can start really decoding dolphin language with AI. Right. And once they really understand what they’re saying, then things are gonna get very strange. Ai like it,
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01:37:45
I don’t know. Yeah.
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You know, because, like, what are they did they I mean, they’re really smart, like, silly smart. Like, dolphins have enormous frontal lobes.
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Oh, yeah, man. And communication. Mhmm.
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Mhmm. They have dialects. They have
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01:38:03
They have dialects.
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01:38:04
Yeah. They sound different.
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Well, that
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makes sense. Parts of
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the world.
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I mean, that makes sense. Right? They’re different slightly different.
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Well, on that note, you think what about ai? Whales brains are literally bigger than us. They’re enormous. So if we’re talking about brain size equals which I’m It’s brain size relative to Bodymaster. Yeah. Oh is it?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because you need a big fucking brain to run a big body. Yeah. Right.
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Right. Which is also the argument for why the Neanderthals might have been dumber than us.
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01:38:32
Well, they were.
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For long They don’t know that though. Really? Yeah. They had pretty big brains. What’s weird about them is they also had language. Yeah. They had writing and or they had they definitely had tool ai.
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Sai don’t think they have writing.
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01:38:46
No. They don’t have writing. They had language, but they they did do art. That’s what it is. Mhmm. Wasn’t writing necessarily, but they drew stuff. And they had a brain that’s bigger than ours, but they were also, like, jacked. They have bigger eyeballs. There was a guy that there’s a there was a crazy theory that I’m sure is horseshit. But, it was cool. Like, he made Neanderthals look way different.
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This guy had a theory, like, because we’re just we’ve never seen a live Neanderthal. And he was ai, what if we are getting it totally wrong? And what if they were more gorilla looking
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than
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But we have the skulls and skeletons down.
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We have some stuff and they also think they have red hair. This guy was it’s a crack theory.
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Right. Right.
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But it was a fun theory. Yeah. But one of the more fun aspects of this guy’s crack theory was that their eyeballs are so much bigger than ours. Their sockets are really big. It’s ai, what if they have night vision ai a deer or like a wolf, you know? Which is totally possible for a primate to have.
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It’s not like it’s not like there’s anything about being that kind of a mammal that will exclude you from being able to develop night vision eyesight.
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Are there are there primates that have that?
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I don’t know.
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Because there’s mammals for sure.
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Yeah. But
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what Yeah. Let’s ask. Let’s ask, Perplexity.
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Perplexity. Is there any
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what is that called when they have night vision when animals are nocturnal and they could see well at night? You know that thing that, like, when you’re driving and you’re
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Sai a fox or something? Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Meh. The reflective eyes that they all have. Yeah.
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01:40:13
What is that?
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I don’t know.
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What’s that called?
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I don’t know.
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I don’t know.
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We should know.
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Do you know there’s a very interesting theory about neanderthals and, Homo sapiens is there are some people who think that we are one of the few species or one of the only species that has the capacity to deceive Oh. And trick. So there was there’s a there’s a theory going around that.
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01:40:35
Monkeys do that. Monkeys trick other monkeys into thinking there’s an eagle coming, so they steal fruit.
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Do they?
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01:40:42
Yeah. That’s Yeah. They yell out the sound for eagle, and then all the monkeys run away, and then they steal the fruit.
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01:40:48
Oh, really?
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Yeah. Wow. Sai here it is, monk ai, the tarsier and the night monkey, owl monkey are the species with the best vision adapted to night conditions.
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Right.
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Okay. So they do. Yeah. Sai, look at that. Largest eyes relative to body size of any mammal. Mhmm. So it’s something about having a large eye because if you okay. So despite lacking a tapetum lucidum, the reflective layer that cause ai shine in many nocturnal animals. Oh, that’s what that is. Their retinas contain extremely high density of rod photoreceptors, which are highly sensitive to dim light.
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This allows tarsiers to detect and track prey such as insects in near darkness, and they can see in light as low as 0.001 lux similar to moonless nights. Damn. So, there’s a bunch of different little primates.
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Oh, lorises.
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Why I meh, if you were living in a time, especially if you didn’t have ai, if you’re living in a time where, you know, there’s no roofs, like you’re you’re you’re hunting, you’re outside at night, you’re probably spending as much time as you can hunting. Because Neanderthals weren’t gatherers, they weren’t farmers. So all they did was hunt. Mhmm. So they probably had some sort of night vision, which would have been wild.
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Yeah. The thing that I find interesting is what it is the I think there’s some the average person in Europe has around 3% Neanderthal.
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01:42:14
Mhmm. DNA.
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DNA. Yeah. Three and a 3%. If you’re African, zero. Right. So it’s it’s just really interesting. And you see some people, and they’re more they kind of have more than Neanderthal kind of appearance to them.
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Yeah. For For sure.
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And then other people and you go, what what does that actually give you, that 3%? What does it do? Is there any discernible difference whatsoever? Does it make you perhaps more athletic, more more resilient?
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It’s a good question. I mean, I think it would depend I mean, there’s also a bunch of other weird strains of human that existed that they’re, you know, ai, Dennis Ovens and there’s it’s quite a few other ones.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know, who knows what if I think that Dennis Ovens, Ai think they definitely got into the gene pool too. I forget who they were saying had a high levels of Denisovan DNA. It might have been Aboriginal Australians. But, you know, there’s there was a bunch of different types of human.
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You know, we just figured out how to be the cuntiest and the most conniving and I think probably the most clever.
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Well, Harari’s have you read Yes. Sapiens? Yeah. His thesis is we we worked out how to work together beyond the 150 done by number. Mhmm. That was his his ai is basically, we created these shared myths. Religion, money, what nation, all of the stuff that we all agree is real that, you know Yeah.
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01:43:36
It feels real.
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Right.
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But we the reason we outcompeted other species is that we could cooperate across beyond our immediate tribal group. And that’s the reason.
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That makes sense. That makes sense. There’s also, human beings have a very distinct desire to make better things all the time. Mhmm. And if you have that and you’re applying that to weapons, you’re gonna make the best weapons. Right. You know, I don’t know if Neanderthals had that. You know?
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Did they have I mean, if you’re gonna make stuff, right, if you’re gonna make tools, you must have some creativity and some desire to innovate.
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And curiosity.
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Yeah. Curiosity, desire to innovate. Because we know that, look, there’s certain animals that will use weapons. Right? There’s certain, like, there’s a a famous photograph of an orangutan that’s spearfishing.
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01:44:29
Have you
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ever seen that Yeah. Photo? But it learned how to do it ram people. Mhmm. And, you know, they’ll use rocks to break open crabs and they’ll do stuff like that, but they’re not fastening an arrowhead No. On a stick or a spear and they’re making it with flint. The Neanderthals did that. Mhmm.
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Sai they got to a level where they’re ai, okay, this is like craftsmanship. Ai, this is sophisticated craftsmanship and it would also probably indicate some sort of a complex language that you could explain where you get the the gut that you turn into fiber that you use to tie the arrowhead to the the stick.
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Like, they were they were doing they were doing some high level stuff. Yeah. That would Sorry. For a primate.
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Yeah. I would imagine also a lot of the innovation comes once you have the agrarian revolution because there’s now surplus food. Yeah. And so you can afford to have a bunch of guys sitting around not hunting, but, like, thinking about shit or inventing things or, you know, making things in a different way.
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You know?
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Did you see that, discovery of a skull that was 500,000 years older than they thought was the origin of human beings? So that it potentially pushes back the original Homo sapiens to 500,000? No. Ram.
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Is that real?
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Yeah. Yeah. They think it’s it might push back, the date. I mean, it’s an under debate, I’m sure. But I think they might push back the date of the arrival of Homo sapiens to a million years.
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Wow. Yeah. But it just shows, you know, how
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how just nuts.
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How little we know about ancient civilization. Stonehenge in The UK, which is this iconic Have
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you built it?
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No. I haven’t. No.
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You you should go. It’s
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really energy there, man.
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Yeah. It’s really impressive. And like Constance said, there’s a special energy, and it’s it’s a profoundly moving place when you visit it. You feel as if you have a connection to something else. It’s like going to the pyramids. But they have no idea. They have a rough idea of where the stones might have come from, but they’ve got no idea how they got there, how they erected them.
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Yeah. You should go, man. Joe Rogan arrested at Heathrow Airport. That would be a great fucking story.
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Ai sure they can find some tweets. They’re just the things that I’ve said. Does that count as social media? The things that I’ve said talking shit about England?
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Yeah. Of course.
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I’m sure they sai watch me for that.
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Yeah.
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Maybe not. But why would I take that chance? I could just look at a picture of his tone edge. The weird thing about that, English countryside to me is, the weirdest thing is the crop circle thing. Because the crop circle thing, I used to think was stupid. I was like, what? So some people flattening things out with a board and making ai. That’s it.
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And then I started watching some people that were actual scientists that were breaking down what’s actually happening to these plants. Ai, something weird is going on. They’re not just pushing these things down. Whoever’s making these, I’m not suggesting aliens are making them.
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But they’re making them in a way where they’re using energy and it’s it’s causing the nodes in the these plants to burst and they’re bending over. They’re not snapping. A lot of them are bent in place. It’s it’s all very weird. And they’re woven. There’s no footprints in, no footprints out, and some of them appear ai overnight.
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And there’s these massive geometric patterns. It’s really weird stuff. Because if this is a coordinated effort, some of them are fractals and you see the fractals and they’re across ai what you would say of a two like a soccer pitch, like bigger than that. Mhmm. Bigger than a soccer field. Ai. It’s weird. Mhmm. They’re weird. I don’t think it’s I think some people made them by stomping on boards and moving them around.
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But those you can kinda tell because they’re different, and they’re not that sophisticated, and they’re not that impressive. But there’s been some ones that were sai if you pull up some of these giant fractal ones. There’s been a few where you see people in them ai that one.
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Yeah.
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You see people, like, standing in them, and you go, oh, fuck. Alright. Wow. Look how small those people are.
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Ai, on the left, that’s people. Right?
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Yeah. So
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this appeared overnight. What? Yes. Overnight. And some of them ai this have appeared in an afternoon where a a guy has flown his small plane over a field, worked, and then flown his small plane back, and all of a sudden this massive fractal geometric pattern is is in this these crops.
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01:49:03
And what’s weird is some of them look like they have messages and some of them just look like patterns and Wow. Look at that. Was the Mandelbrot set. Okay. The Mandelbrot set is a particularly complex fracture fractal rather that I think right after it was discovered was when it appeared in a crop circle, like, not not long after.
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Like, look at this. They’re woven. Wow. This is weird stuff.
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This is in England. Right?
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Exactly. A lot of them are in England. And, I’ve always wondered, like, what is that about? And you could say, oh, meh, it’s just bullshit. It’s people fucking around. It might be. It might be. But if it is, it’s the most incredible hoax of all time. Because the people that did say that they did it when they asked them, there’s a couple, couple friends who, like, were making crop circles, And they said, show us how you do it.
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And they showed them how to do it.
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But the stuff they
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made went shit. It wasn’t shit. It wasn’t like this. They would have a string and they would, like, step on this board and they would do it in a circle sai that they made sure it was circle. But it wasn’t this. You guys something’s going on. Like whatever that is, someone’s fucking with somebody, there’s some sort of technology that we’re not aware of.
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That’s that kind of makes sense to meh. Because if we know that direct energy weapons are real. Right? So if this is saying that they’re creating this with microwave energy or something similar to that, it’s making these nodes burst. Sai you can find the burst nodes of, crop circles. Because that’s what’s weird.
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01:50:32
Ai, some of them, it’s almost like like a microwave cooking something and it pops like a hot dog. That’s what it looks like. And if you had a weapon, not a weapon, but a thing that you could point down from a satellite and you could make a geometric pattern in crops. You could just burn it into the crop, like, instantaneously. Why wouldn’t you do that? Just to show that you could do it. Look look how cool this is.
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Look at this thing that we invented. This is a direct energy weapon, but if you use it low level, you can literally imprint a geometric pattern into crops. No footprints in, no footprints out. I mean, they’re like, oh, aliens are trying to leave messages. I’m like or high level government agencies, they’re using black funded operations and, misappropriating funds in line of Congress have developed a way to fucking take fractals and beam them into fields.
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Man, some of the stuff, like, the war in Ukraine has accelerated technological development of weapons in a way that, like, the drone warfare that’s going on right now Nuts. It’s fucking crazy, man. Nuts. Like, the next war that’s good if if there’s another big war between, like, two big countries, that’s gonna be it’s gonna be ai something we used to watch in the movies, man.
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01:51:46
Yeah. We already
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know that.
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In the way. They have these, like, drones because they’ve worked. Ai had to jam them or hijack them. So now they’re on a fiber optic cable that’s, like, 10 kilometers long.
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Yeah. And then birds are taking them and making nests out of them.
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01:51:58
Right. It’s fucking insane.
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01:52:00
So
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That’s the only photo I see that comes up. Okay.
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What you’re
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looking for?
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Well, they they had burst meh. That’s that one, the white one in the center. Yeah. That one right there. So you could see how these things, they they’re expanded out in some weird way, like energy. Not like they’re broken, but ai that’s they got hit with something ai a like a focused energy that made them bend over in that pattern.
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01:52:23
Like, look at all this. Look how weird that is. And this has been documented a lot of the really complex ones. And And that’s why it’s strange. Like, look at the look at that one in the center that looks like a maze. I mean, what the fuck, man?
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01:52:36
Jamie, what’s the official explanation of how these things are made?
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When I go everything I’m looking up says there’s people that have admitted to making most of them, and they’ve been proven to be made a lot of times.
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01:52:48
I’m sure they made a bunch of them.
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That’s all. I’m just it’s Yeah.
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Ai think people are a little dismissive of the weirdness of this. Yeah. Because there are some of these, ai, that’s the Mandelbrot set. That one right there, that fractal. When did it appear after the Mandelbrot set? One. I think. It was in ’91? Okay. These are obviously man made. They’re far too symmetrical for that.
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They’re obviously not man made.
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Obviously not man made. Excuse me. Far too symmetrical for that. This is in Cambridge Weekly, but that’s someone’s opinion. Right. What did when did the Mandelbrot set first get discovered as a fractal?
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Just in general.
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What is the origin of the Mandelbrot set? When was the origin date for the discovery of the Mandelbrot set? So it’s just a very it’s really cool if you watch, like, a three d version of the Mandelbrot set. Discovered, I guess. I guess, discovered or created, because it’s really just discovering something that’s that’s geometry. So in 1980?
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1970 was first was first
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defined roughly drawn ai mathematicians.
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01:53:56
’78.
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01:53:58
Okay. And then first ai in high quality in 03/01/1980. And that thing was from 1991. Is that where it was from?
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01:54:06
Ram. And this is that it was so close to Cambridge ai it was most likely
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01:54:09
Past students. Cocksuckers. You got me. Sai if you can find a, three d video of the Mandelbrot sai. Because it’s so weird when you see what this thing really is. Like, fractals are very strange because something about them that resonates with you your your brain goes, oh, this is how the universe is.
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What? It’s
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you know, because I tend to think that’s really what’s going on, especially when you look at, human brain tissue versus a map of the universe. Have you ever seen that? Like human neural maps and then a a meh of the actual universe itself? You’re like, that’s a little too close.
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Like, that’s kind of dead on the money. They look exactly the same. They look like it’s exactly the same thing. And it’s completely, like, if you believe in infinity and if the universe is infinite Wow. So this is a three d version of the Mandelbrot set. Wow.
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So as you get closer and closer, this is not the one I’m looking for. This is ai a an artist’s rendition of it. But a three d video of it will show, like, how the closer you get, it becomes bigger again and then it goes into another thing and then you get close to that one and then it becomes bigger again.
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01:55:29
And it’s just the fractal nature of it and then you you you think about, like, okay, if the universe is infinite, that it’s not even that’s it. Meh get to that one. If the universe is infinite, it’s not even remotely observed to think that the whole universe is just human neural tissue of another creature that lives in another universe.
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And hopefully, this dude doesn’t blow his own brains out cause that might be the Big Bang. The Big Bang the Big Bang might be the guy who is our universe. He’s depressed. And, he That would explain That
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kind of explains
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a lot.
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That explains
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a lot.
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And he
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hates his job, and he’s going to stick a a gun in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Isn’t that nuts? Yeah. This is the that’s, like an actual now sai if you can find a photo that compares human, neural tissue with, the universe. You ever seen you know that image I’m talking about, Jamie?
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That thing of disappearing, it gave me a flashback to when I broke my arm. They took me to the hospital, and they gave me ketamine.
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01:56:32
Oh, yeah.
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01:56:33
Fucking hell, man. Yeah. I thought I died. I literally I thought I felt myself, like, disappear into this thing, and I was like, okay. That’s it. I’m done.
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01:56:41
Wow.
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And then
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01:56:43
Was it fun?
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No.
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It was not remotely fucking. Was it fun when you thought you died, Constance? And no, it wasn’t. Look at at that. Look at those two things.
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01:56:54
Look at these two things. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. One of them is human brain cells. What is exactly? What is the the image exactly? It’s human neural tissue. Right? Is that what it is?
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It’d be a neuropathway.
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01:57:07
Let’s find out what it is so we could say it and not sound totally stupid. So what does it say? I can’t read that. Brain cells.
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01:57:18
Brain cells, brain cell. Yeah.
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01:57:19
Yeah. And their connection. Remarkably similar to our own brain cells and and the connections. Remarkably similar. That’s okay. So the left is a brain cell, the right is the universe. That dude’s gonna put a gun in his mouth and go, I’m done. And right now, he’s dressed like a furry and he just pooped his pants. He’s like, I’ve had enough. I’ve had enough.
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That’s what I love about thinking about the universe. It’s like the illusion of control. Mhmm. Oh. Yeah. It’s ai, we don’t we don’t matter. We don’t control shit.
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01:57:47
And also the outrage that you have is greatly accelerated by the fact that light pollution has robbed you from this perspective. Yeah. You can’t look up and see the cosmos in all its glory anymore.
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01:57:58
Yeah.
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So the more we’re deprived of that, the more ridiculous we meh. Because we’re never just faced with the awe of the universe. Sai feel like, woah. But when you see a sky that’s just filled with stars, there’s something about that that’s so humbling and so wild and and so incredible.
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01:58:15
I’ve been in a place in Armenia, which which had the, I think, one of the biggest observatories in the Soviet Union. And you go up in the mountain, we don’t need any equipment. You basically don’t see the ai, you just see stars. Ai, the entire sky is completely lit up by the stars.
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01:58:30
That’s so nuts.
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Yeah. And when you think about it, when everybody’s on their phones now, what do you do when you’re on your phone? You look down.
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01:58:37
Right.
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01:58:38
It’s the absolute complete opposite of looking up into the stars.
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01:58:42
It really is.
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01:58:43
So as a result, you go, well, no wonder we’re so completely self obsessed, narcissistic, solipsistic, whatever word you wanna use, because we’re completely looking down into ourselves. Yeah. Well, actually, if you look up and you see that you you become humbled. You realize of your own insignificance, your mortality.
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01:59:01
Yeah. You’re not even looking into yourself. You’re really just being overwhelmed by nonsense. You’re getting these tiny little dopamine hits, staring at horse shit. I watched four videos today of kids playing with baby goats.
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I didn’t get anything out of that.
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01:59:16
It was cute, but, you know, but I could have been doing things instead of just sitting there staring at it.
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01:59:22
I want the super opposite of that, but the, looking down thing is sort of a thing. A lot of reflective pulls back in ancient times were used to monitor stars.
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01:59:31
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. That’s true.
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Them and put things
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01:59:33
down Yeah. And see where they move. That way
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01:59:35
you don’t
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01:59:35
have to hurt your neck. You can figure out the stars. That’s also a crazy thing. Right? Because, like, how many ancient civilizations used the stars and used the constellations to align their buildings? You know, the Egyptians did it. The Mayans did it.
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01:59:50
Temple Of Abu Simbel. Yeah. Where it was done, and they still don’t know how they did it mathematically. So there was a beam of light coming from the top at a certain point Mhmm. And it would hit the altar.
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02:00:01
Stonehenge is like that. Yep. Oh, is it on the summer solstice, everything lines up?
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02:00:05
Yeah. You
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02:00:06
know, this is one of the things we just had the historian Dan, Dan Snow. Right?
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02:00:09
Mhmm.
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02:00:10
And we talked about the history of England, and one of the things you were talking about is Stonehenge. And and I watched the documentary in which he was saying, well, you know, in many ways, the people who were living during this time, they were really like us. And I was thinking, no, they were fucking not. No, they were fucking not. Think about the investment of time, resources that it would take them to build Stonehenge.
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02:00:33
Right.
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02:00:33
Right? And this is not a thing that has a functional purpose in the way that we would understand it. We would not invest a quarter of our GDP into building a stone structure that aligns with the sun.
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02:00:46
And they don’t really even know when they did it. Right. No. They’re just guessing. Yeah.
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02:00:51
Yeah. Totally.
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02:00:52
And when you get to we get the weird stuff ai Gobekli Tepe, where they didn’t even think people were capable of doing that eleven thousand years ago.
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02:00:59
Yeah.
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02:00:59
And it was purposely covered up eleven thousand years ago. Yeah. And you find these giant stone columns, you know, like, we don’t know anything.
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02:01:07
Yeah.
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We don’t we don’t know what these people were up to. Like, this is kind of kooky.
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02:01:12
And how they thought. I remember Right. When when I was on tour with Jordan, him and I were talking one night, and I don’t know it was a weird experience. It it sounds crazy, but when I was spending time with him, we were talking a lot. The way I saw things slightly changed, ai, the the images became more, like, vivid in my head. Mhmm.
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02:01:32
And one of the things he was talking about is the mindset of, sai, like, there were certain tribes that would sacrifice one of their children for some kind of reason. Right? Something like that. And and and when he he was talking, I suddenly had this vision of, like, being there. And he said, now think about what that’s like.
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02:01:52
What do you have to believe, and how do you have to think to be willing to sacrifice your own child for something? Willingly.
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02:02:00
Right.
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02:02:00
Willingly. Now think of the bond with your children.
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02:02:03
Yeah.
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For you to think that that is the right thing to do, you gotta be a different human being to the three of us.
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02:02:11
Yeah. And you gotta be, first of all, probably real comfortable with death. Because back then, I bet people died real easy and real often.
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02:02:20
And also, maybe you’ve gotta be really fucking terrified of something.
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02:02:23
Really terrified of something and really believe that if you don’t do this, like, everyone’s gonna die. Right. You have to sacrifice one kid or we’re we’re all doomed. Right. Yeah.
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02:02:31
But, you know, in different like, I remember in Venezuela. I this is quite a depressing story, but in speak places like South America, they are far more comfortable with death than we are. Like, I remember I met this girl at this party when I was 18 years old. I really liked her.
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02:02:46
There was a little bit of ai vibe going on, but I knew she liked my friends, so I didn’t do anything. And I went home back to The UK. I came back a year later, and I said to my friend, hey. You sana, Diana, that girl I was talking to, what’s what’s she up to now? And he went, well, you didn’t know. I went, no. He went, she was in a car driving down the motorway. She was getting chased by some ai some dude.
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02:03:07
She tried to outrun him, lost control of the car, hit a wall, the car burst into flames. I was like and he went, anyway, dude, do you want a beer? Because when you’re in those kind of cultures and people were died or kidnapped, it becomes you know, you you simply can’t have that visceral reaction all the time because it overtakes you, it paralyzes you, and you can’t function.
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02:03:29
Jesus. So people in Venezuela will get kidnapped on the weekend and on the Monday, they’re back at work. Oh, boy. Jesus. So I think a lot of it is adaptive, you know?
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02:03:42
Yeah. Well, people definitely adapt to all sorts of crazy ai. Sai mean, you see that all over the world. And the problem is, you’ll see people living, you know, ai, sai, villagers in the Congo do. And you’re like, oh, that’s so different than me. Like, no, bitch. You just don’t live there. If you live there, that would be exactly how you would live. You would live just like them because that’s all they can do.
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02:04:04
They have no way out.
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02:04:05
Right.
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02:04:05
So they’re stuck here and you would be too.
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02:04:07
Especially if you
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have no access to other information or other cultural values or
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02:04:11
anything. Exactly. Exactamundo. Which is why we need Mormons to be missionaries sai they could travel to places
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02:04:17
to teach these people.
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02:04:18
That story will always make I feel bad laughing at someone being killed, but that story about the guy who went to that island. Yeah.
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02:04:23
He wasn’t a Mormon. He went to North Sentinel Island. North Sentinel Island is particularly odd because, that place, that area had been invaded by this guy. When Jamie comes back, I’ll have him look up the story. The ai, there was, god, I forget his name. But he was a pervert and he would go to these islands and make these guys dress up like Roman soldiers and he would he would, write down in his, his journal the size of their testicles.
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02:04:53
Like, this one had testicles the size of a sparrow’s egg. He was a total speak. And, he also kidnapped people from that island and gave a bunch of people the flu. So he kidnapped people and gave them water this flu or some some sort of disease, and two old people died and then they returned the kids back to the island.
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02:05:12
So they all had horrific stories about these white people that would visit and measure your dicks and give you a clue. And so when that kid came and tried to give them the ai, he didn’t know the history. Yeah. He didn’t know that these people had ai a severe rejection of these seven social bubbles.
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02:05:30
There were little bit of show phobias.
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02:05:32
Yeah. People died and then, you know, they told you stories around the ai, some guy who comes and measures your dick and then everyone dies. Like, these were, like, this that was their folklore. So when he showed up, like, you know, trying to convert these people, like, they already they they weren’t hearing it.
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02:05:48
No. They’re ai, don’t touch my dick, dude.
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02:05:50
Yeah. They’re like, I know what you’re up to. Ai heard the story
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02:05:54
from my
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02:05:54
grandpa at the ai. Yeah. Beep. That place is nuts. It’s only 39 people living there.
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02:05:59
But you know
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02:06:00
Ai of Manhattan.
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02:06:01
Really?
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02:06:01
Yeah.
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02:06:02
Size of Manhattan, middle of the Indian Ocean. And the people living there, the direct descendants of people left Africa fifty thousand years ago. Wow. Some of them just stayed on that ai. And then it got to be a very small genetic diversity, you know. There’s only there’s a very small amount of people on that island. That’s where things get real weird. It’s like you kinda gotta leave them there now, you know?
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02:06:23
Yeah. There’s no coming back, is there?
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02:06:24
You get what are you gonna do? You gotta teach them how to make stuff? Like, what are you gonna do? Show them how to make a boat? This is how you make a car. It’s like, what are you gonna do? Yeah. They’ll that’s their culture. There’s you know, they’re isolated from the entire world and they have been for giant chunks of history except for when dudes came over and meh their dicks.
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Can you imagine that was your only reference for white people?
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02:06:47
Well, there was another boat that, it, it The dick ai here. And they invaded the boat. They were going after the people in the boat, and they got out just in time. They got rescued just in ai. And that’s how they started getting meh, because they didn’t have metal up until then. So they were taking pieces of the boat and using it to fashion weapons with.
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02:07:05
Wow.
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They didn’t have any metal up until that point.
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You know, it was really interesting is how something still resonate. Like, I was talking to Constantine about the Greek myths
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02:07:16
Mhmm.
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And how ai lot I was really obsessed with them when I was a kid. And when I was teaching, I used to teach Greek myths to my kids, and they would all love it. And I I remember thinking going, why is it that these stories, which are thousands of years old, resonate with a group of 11 year old kids in the twenty first century in East London who are all addicted to their iPhones?
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But then you look at it and you look at, for instance, the story of Narcissus, the guy who falls in love with his own reflection in the lake and drowns in the lake, and you go, well, that could be about now.
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Yeah. Do you
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know what I mean? Like, with social media, the guy who just becomes so obsessed, he becomes one with social media until the point that it obliterates everything and he loses all his identity.
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02:07:59
I wonder if that’s the origin of it. I wonder if this is a repeating cycle. What if the Egyptians had social media? What if the like, what if those people had AI? What if they had everything that we think they didn’t have because there’s nothing left over because it all got absorbed by the Earth and we’re just making assumptions?
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What if it’s a cycle? What if these people get to a point where they figure out something amazing, and then they fuck it up and become cave people again, and have to rebuild over and over and over again?
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02:08:25
That’s the difference with AI, isn’t it? Because up to up to that point, you go all technology really does is amplifies our natural human nature Right. In every way. Right. Right? The the ancient Egyptians were jealous of their sister and fucking all of this shit. Right? But AI isn’t human. Right.
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And that’s that’s where I think it gets interesting.
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This is the my craziest speculation is that whenever I’m reading religious text, I’m always trying to figure out, okay, what was the original story? What were they documenting? Like, what were they trying to record and pass down? What really happened? What what really is the book of Enoch all about?
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Have you told that for a thousand years before anybody bothered writing it down and it gets translated? And who knows what it means? Who knows what was the event? If Jesus is born of a virgin mother, what is more virgin than a computer? If our savior comes to us from a virgin mother, and it’s it’s born out of this technology, and it becomes some insanely intelligent, benevolent force in the world.
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02:09:37
And then the Muslims kill him. They bomb him. Or or the Romans or whoever’s in charge. Maybe it’s the US government this time. Yeah. Maybe we kill him.
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02:09:49
Maybe maybe he just, disrupts president Kamala’s second term. They ai to nuke Jesus.
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02:09:56
Have you ever been to The Middle East?
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No. I’ve been to parts. I’ve been to Abu Dhabi, and I’ve been to Dubai.
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What do you think?
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You know, Abu Dhabi is very nice. It’s it’s it’s incredible how much money they have. Right? We did a UFC down there Mhmm. And it was ai, wow. Like, you just, like, realize, like, this is kind of crazy. Like, they have so much money. And Dubai also, it’s like, god, there’s so much money.
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Everywhere you look, there’s Ferraris and Bentleys and Rolls Ai, like, it’s kind of crazy. Ai have a friend who lived in Dubai for quite a while and, he’s Meh. And, he was saying, dude, you could leave a Rolex on the street and people will turn it in. Yeah. I’m like, really?
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02:10:35
Meh sai
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like, yeah. No one steals anything. There’s no crime. But, yeah, you have to, you know, run by a king.
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02:10:43
Yeah. But it’s interesting with with some of the Gulf countries now, they’re so they’re moving forward at such a rapid rate culturally as well. Mhmm. You know, I’ve Sai have a friend in Saudi who’s a woman. She’s, like, super excited about the way things are going, you know?
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02:10:56
Right. And this is the difference between Muslims and Islamists, what you were talking
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about. Correct?
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02:11:00
Well, right. The so if you talk to Emirates, for example. Right? There’s nobody they hate more than the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is ai the the central tumor and the Sai, Ai, and whatever. They’re like little, meh metastatic tumors, basically. And the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to them way more than it is even to us in the West, because they you know, Ai sure you’ve heard after a terrorist attack, everyone’s like, well, actually Muslims are the biggest victims of terrorist Islamist terrorism.
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02:11:31
It’s true. Because what’s happening in The Middle East is there’s effectively a war between the people who want to live in a nation state. They sana live in Saudi Arabia, UAE, etcetera, Bahrain, whatever. And the people who want that to be one religious caliphate with Sharia law. That’s what’s happening. That’s the battle.
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02:11:52
So those Muslim countries, they understand Islamist extremism
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02:11:57
Mhmm.
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02:11:57
Way better than we do. Have you ever seen that video of The UAE foreign minister? He was talking in the maybe twenty tenths, maybe ai 2012, something like that, maybe even earlier. And he basically predicts he says, you in Europe don’t understand what you’re dealing with. And because of your bullshit, because of your political correctness, you are going to have terrorism and violence on your street.
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02:12:20
He predicted all of it because they understand Islamist terrorism way better than we do. That’s why, you know, people are you know, the Arab street is a different thing, but the people who are in power in those countries, they hate Hamas more than anyone. They hate they they hate Hamas more than anybody because they just go, these are the people that wanna kill us too.
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Mhmm. And I think part of the problem as well is that we have we have liberalism in our country. Sai we’re saying, you know, it’s a marketplace of ai. We need to talk. We need to share. But what what happens is then you’ve got an Islamic fundamentalist preaching, converting people to Islamism, and you go, our way of combating this simply isn’t adequate.
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It isn’t adequate to deal with this civilizational threat, which is what it is. And if you come from an Islamic background, you understand it far more because you are from a cult you’re from a similar culture. So you see what what effectively what this is, which is ai a cancerous version of Islam. Mhmm.
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And
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so you’re better able to understand it. And by being better able to understand it, you’re far more able to tackle that problem.
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02:13:32
One of the things that I find interesting about people that are very upset about the, Gaza conflict is that they don’t have anything to say about the Hamas executions that have been going on lately. Right. The public executions. Do you need the latter? Yeah. Those public executions are fucking horrific, man.
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It’s it’s wild to watch, you know, and Ai, unfortunately, have been sent some of the torture videos too. They’re breaking people’s bones.
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Yep.
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02:14:00
And I don’t know if they think these are guys that collaborated with Israel. Is that what the
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It’s more of a power struggle.
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Yeah.
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Like, they wanna reassert their authority. I mean, if you if you think back to the the the Trump 21 peace plan, the central point here you go, John.
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Perfect. I wanna get this one to work. Hang on. I’m stubborn. This no. I’m gonna I want this
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02:14:22
one I’m gonna I’m gonna
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02:14:24
Ai just don’t know why it’s not But go ahead.
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02:14:26
Ai the original Trump 21 peace plan, the central premise of that was to Hamas disarm and Hamas people leave Gaza. Right. Right? And until you have that, you’re not gonna have peace because this is what these people do. Right. The moment the fighting stops, they come out, they reassert the authority, they kill anyone who’s not with them, and they, you know, they’re gonna attack Israelis.
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02:14:49
Israelis are gonna attack back, and and then we’re back to where we started. The amazing thing president Trump has been able to achieve is getting the hostages out. That’s fucking Yeah. He deserves so much credit for that.
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02:15:00
Boy, imagine what those fucking people have been through.
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Oh, man.
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I mean, I don’t know if there’s enough MDA in the world to help you get over that.
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Two years?
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Imagine. Two years of living with those I mean, what did they do to them?
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And they were being told a bunch of shit as well. I’m sure. Like, Israel has been destroyed. Your family’s disowned you. Like, mental torture as
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well.
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I’m sure. I’m sure.
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02:15:25
Yeah. Every every day you wake up, you look at this ai, and you’re like, this guy would kill me in an instant. And not only would he feel it’s not that he would feel nothing. He would celebrate it. Yeah. There’s that horrific, footage from October 7 where it was a Hamas terrorist killed 10 people.
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The first thing he did after slaughtering 10 people is he called his dad and was like, dad, look what this is what I’ve done. And his dad was celebrating, and then he went, put meh on the phone. And then mom was on the phone, and mom was celebrating. And you go I we do I think part of the problem when we talk about this conflict is, again, it goes back we just don’t understand that way of viewing the world.
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02:16:11
Right. It’s so utterly alien to us because we haven’t been indoctrinated into that mindset.
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02:16:17
We were all talking about, Israel and what the way Israel feels about Palestine in the green room the other day. And we were ai, just imagine if you lived in Israel and you’re a Jew and everybody else hates you. All the people around you hate you. Like, do do you know how tense that must be? How insane that relationship must be? And I’m not excusing anything they’ve done. Mhmm.
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02:16:43
But the idea that they would behave the way we behave is kinda ludicrous.
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02:16:48
Correct.
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It’s kinda ludicrous.
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02:16:50
We would behave the way they behave.
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02:16:51
If they did that to us, we would do if we lived in that environment, if Canada and Mexico were both, like, wanted us dead, you know, if that’s if that was if that was their goal, ultimately, if their real stated religious goal was the death of The United States, we would be crazy. We would be invading Canada every week. We’d be fucking Canada up all the time. We wouldn’t want them to have weapons. We wouldn’t want them to have government.
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We wouldn’t want them to have anything.
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And we wouldn’t be talking about a ai. We’d be talking about dealing with the threat.
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02:17:23
Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah. We would talk about I mean, look, all we did was differ with them economically and Trump tried to turn them into a state. He said, I called him Governor Trudeau. First, I was just joking and a lot of people told me it was a good idea. Yeah. I think that single handedly ruined Canada.
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Yeah.
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That idea I mean that’s the Republican Party or their version of the the conservative party. They were on the way out. They were fucked. Yeah. And all of a sudden, the whole country united because Trump’s trying to turn him into a state. Yeah.
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02:17:53
Polioff has gotta be angry about that shit, man.
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02:17:55
He has to be so bad. It was logical and reasonable, and everybody’s like, let’s try that for a while.
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02:18:01
Yeah. Do you know what? That was the ultimate cock block.
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Yeah. Right.
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Do you
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know what I mean? You’re in the bar. You’re this ai to happen with the girl.
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02:18:08
It’s going down.
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02:18:09
It’s going down. You’re like, I’m so gonna get Yeah, I’m so gonna get laid. Trump pops up, whispers something in her ear, and all of a sudden it’s fucking over.
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02:18:17
You know he’s gay. He’s definitely gay.
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That’s not just a guy.
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02:18:23
You can trust
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02:18:24
ai. But coming back to your point about people not talking about the Hamas executions, Ai I one thing I also noticed is a lot of people weren’t didn’t seem to be happy there was a ai. The very ones that had been calling for one.
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02:18:33
Well, they didn’t want Trump to do it. That’s why. They didn’t want Trump to get credit for anything. So if there’s a cease ai, no one’s given him any credit for all the other conflicts that he stopped as well. You know, there’s been a bunch in Africa sana these people that have been feuding for decades, and he’s put a stop to that.
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02:18:49
Now whether or not it sticks, that’s another thing. The Israel one didn’t stick didn’t stick very long. I mean, what happened? So someone blew over, they drove over, un unexploded munitions, and then they thought it was a attack by Hamas, and then they started bombing again. Right?
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02:19:09
What I read is there was an RPG ai at a Israeli vehicle, but you might have a
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02:19:16
you might get right. I think that was the initial story.
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02:19:18
Okay.
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That’s what they thought.
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Oh, so it’s changed?
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Yes. Okay. I think they thought somewhat that these Israeli the IDF soldiers drove over this unexploded munitions.
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And they saw some dude and they were like, he did it.
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02:19:29
I think someone blamed someone else for it. I think there was confusion or something along those lines. See if you can find what that story is. I don’t know what the exact story was, but Yeah. They started bombing again and they killed a bunch of people.
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02:19:42
And there’s also a lot of mistrust. Like, you know, I was saying the Arab nations in the region, they hate Hamas. They also don’t trust Netanyahu. That’s also a fact. They don’t trust Netanyahu. Right. And, you know, Netanyahu Ai mean, you talk about what Israelis feel like. Think about what it’s ai.
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02:20:00
It’s the first question I asked him. What is it like to be a leader of a country that is attacked in the way that you were on October 7? Imagine the trauma that leaves in you’re responsible. Right. You’re responsible for 10,000,000 people, and this happens.
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02:20:16
Did you ask him why it took so long for them to respond?
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No. I we didn’t ask him that. No.
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It was quite a few hours though. Right?
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It was a few hours. Yeah. My understanding from people we we had the former director of Mossadon. We asked him about that. And he just he I mean, there are a lot of people who are very critical of the the the Israeli, top brass
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02:20:36
Right.
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Of the sai way it went down. I think there was a lot of confusion from what I understand, like contradictory orders being given. People didn’t really know what was going on. That’s basically what I heard.
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02:20:47
Was there a stand down order?
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I don’t know.
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No. From we’ve also spoken to other military experts who actually say, look, it doesn’t look good, but one of the things is it’s very difficult to mobilize forces instantaneously. Yeah. Soldiers instantaneously organize, get them out even under emergency.
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02:21:05
Right. But wouldn’t you think in Israel, which is one of the most sophisticated security states in the world, that they would be ready for something like that a lot quicker than any other country because they’re constantly under a threat.
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02:21:17
You’d think they would have a fence that was permanently monitored and Yeah. They they fucked up. They clearly fucked up very badly.
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02:21:23
It’s crazy if you look at their fence versus Egypt’s fence.
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02:21:26
Yeah.
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02:21:26
The Egypt fence is wild. Like, people don’t like to talk about that.
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No. Nope.
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That one’s wild. Yeah.
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02:21:32
Well, this is one of the reasons that a lot of the other countries in the region, you know, they they don’t they don’t support Israel killing Palestinians, obviously. But they’re also not the they just take say if you’re Jordanian. Right? Right. A lot of the population in Bryden is Palestinian.
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02:21:49
And what happened when they had a large population of Palestine? They killed the fucking king. Uh-huh. Right? So the this is the difficulty of it.
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Like, this is a highly radicalized population.
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Right.
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And, you know, it’s that’s why it’s such a difficult conflict to resolve. And like you say, the Israelis are on edge because they have to be. They’re surrounded by people who’ve invaded their country repeatedly.
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02:22:11
Yeah. Like, what is the best case scenario for how this all ends? That’s what the problem is. Everybody who prognosticate, everybody who, like, looks at the future, no one has a a version of this where it’s ai, oh, it worked out great.
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02:22:27
Yeah. Well, Jared Kushner, I think he’s a he’s clearly a genius. I mean, orchestrating the Abraham Accords in the first Trump term, he’s involved in it now. And his thing, as I understand it, is basically this. The Middle East has a very different demographic to most Western countries.
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02:22:42
A shit ton of young people, very, very young people. And they the the leaders of those countries know that they’ve got two choices. Either they create jobs, meaning, purpose, economic prosperity, or all these young men are gonna go the wrong direction. Mhmm. So they’re desperately trying to create thriving economies, so that their youth don’t feel the need to fight their grandfather’s war.
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02:23:07
Got it.
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02:23:08
And sai I understand it, the Kushner approach has been what you do is you find a way to address the fighting sai it’s not happening. And then you just lock the entire region into economic cooperation. Because The UAE wants to trade with Israel. The Saudis sana trade with Israel.
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02:23:25
And the other reason is they have a common enemy, which is Iran. All the other countries, particularly the Gulf countries, they fear Iran a lot more than they fear Israel. A lot more than they care about Israel. Iran is their number one problem. It’s a threat to them.
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02:23:39
And so if you can get the entire Middle East, other than Iran, maybe Qatar, I don’t know, together, working together, they don’t then have the incentive to continue this conflict. Because they’re trading, they’ve got way more to lose by this continuing. So that’s the end goal.
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02:23:57
The difficulty is as long as Hamas is in power, they are I mean, they did October 7 to prevent that from happening, basically. They wanted to derail the long term aspiration for peace. Mhmm. And Iran wanted them to do that because Iran doesn’t want those countries to work together.
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02:24:14
And didn’t it happen right after Biden had released, like, $6,000,000,000 to Iran? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
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So
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now they’ve got funding. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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02:24:22
And, yeah, and Iran funds What’s
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a good idea?
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02:24:26
Well, and and Iran funds all of these organizations, all these Hezbollah, Hamas. So Iran is essentially their plan is destabilization of the region.
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02:24:36
And then if you go to the history of Iran, you find out that they got fucked by what was it? The the British oil company? What oil company was it?
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02:24:44
Mhmm.
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Where they wanted to nationalize their oil because they they realized they were getting fucked. And so the king is ai, hey, no. This is our oil. Mhmm. And, and all of a bryden, The United States comes along and Britain comes along. They go, let’s kick this fucking guy out of here and install some sort of a religious religious caliphate and let’s get the party rolling. Mhmm.
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02:25:06
And they fucked the entire country up. Yeah. Ai, if you see Iran from, like, the the nineteen sixties, women are wearing miniskirts and everybody looks like they’re having a good time. It looks like an like a normal European city.
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02:25:17
Right.
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Yeah.
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02:25:18
And then the crazies come in
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Yeah.
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And you’ve got this, you know, seventh century shit going on.
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02:25:23
Oil companies. Yeah. They they don’t give a fuck. They’re just trying to make that loot. And if they can make that loot and ruin a country, they’re like, okay. Mhmm.
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02:25:32
Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. But I hope that they’ve maybe they haven’t, but you just look at the misery and the bloodshed Ai, they feel bad? No. I
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02:25:43
hope they feel bad.
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I hope the Ayatollah just wakes up one day and goes, ah, I’ve been a bad guy.
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02:25:49
Did you see did you
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02:25:51
see one of the Iranian leaders, the wedding? No. Did you see the wedding? No. So this has created a huge storm in Iran because obviously they have the morality police where people and men literally go around and look at women and go, ai, you need to have your hair covered. You need to have the your skirt needs to be down here. And if not, we’re gonna arrest you. We’re gonna beat you up.
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02:26:10
We’re gonna do all of these things.
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02:26:11
Let me guess. His daughter was wearing a beautiful white dress for ram.
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02:26:14
Mate, she had the mouth. She shah the
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There you go.
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02:26:17
Look at that.
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You can go to jail for that.
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02:26:19
That does not look very halal to me.
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02:26:21
Ai, it does to me.
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02:26:22
She’s hot though.
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02:26:23
Yeah. Fucking hell.
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02:26:24
Iranian women are beautiful.
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02:26:25
Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah. They’re incredible. That’s what’s even more fucked. You got a great gene pool over there. It’s being stifled.
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02:26:31
But the the Persians are a great civilization. Mhmm.
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02:26:34
If you
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look at their history, they’re incredible people.
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02:26:36
Incredible wrestlers too.
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Yeah.
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02:26:37
Yeah. Long history of of elite wrestlers come out of Iran. Yeah. It’s crazy, man.
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02:26:42
Yeah. So that’s the hope. That’s the hope is economic development. Right. And if you can get people trading and that’s the idea.
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02:26:50
Well, bring people out of desperation, you stop crime everywhere. Right. Ai mean, we should have done that in The United States
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02:26:55
sai
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long ass time ago. Yeah. We definitely should have figured out how to do that with Mexico. Yeah. You know, but we’re a bunch of haters. We don’t want them doing well over there. We don’t sana compete with Mexico economically. Fuck that.
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02:27:06
You know, we had he he was a guest on your show, ai, Yo and Guerrilla. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And we and I never realized this, but Yo was ai, you know, there’s a trade going on between Mexico and The United States. I was like, what do you mean? He was like, well, drugs come over one way, and the Americans give their guns come over the other way.
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02:27:23
Yep. Yeah.
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Yeah. I had Mariana Van Tyler on from traffic
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Yeah.
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And she actually followed the what how the LAPD, the corrupt cops from the LAPD confiscate guns, sell guns to the gang members. The gang members then take those guns and drive into Mexico with them because you can meh into Mexico But leaving Mexico is where it’s get hard. So they’d sell the guns, drive back over, empty trunk, everybody’s happy.
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02:27:49
Do you think your boys are gonna start some shit with Venezuela?
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I hope not. It seems ai.
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It looks like it’s going in that direction.
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Rolling up them boats. Soon after the explosion in Rafaham, Ai, is cure, familiar, the White House and Pentagon knew the incident was caused by an Israeli settler bulldozer running over unexploded ordinance, contradicting Netanyahu’s claim that Hamas had popped up from tunnels.
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This is Ryan Grim, who’s a journalist. After Netanyahu said he was blocking all aid from entering Gaza in response and unleashed a bombing campaign, the administration conveyed to Israel that they know what happened. Netanyahu then announced he would reopen the crossings in a few hours. Right. Fuck, man.
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Yeah. So this is what happens in a war. Right? Everyone’s fucking on edge. Something blows up.
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Yeah.
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They think we were under attack, and it all starts again.
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The worst suspicions are that Netanyahu wants this war to continue because that’s why he stays in power.
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Because of the corruption stuff. Right?
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Mhmm. And that’s what Clinton said openly. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s that’s gets real fucking scary. Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you think that’s true?
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I don’t know, man. I don’t know enough about geopolitics. I don’t I certainly don’t know enough about this conflict, but, you know, I know that there’s a lot of people that are suspicious of it, which is why a lot of people are suspicious about why it took so long to answer with with October 7.
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Oh, is that that’s why you were asking?
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No. I Ai wanna know why it took so long if you asked him because it does seem like a long time.
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Yeah.
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You know, I’m I’m not accusing anybody of anything, but a lot of people are. Yeah. You know, it’s a that’s a a thing that people bring up on the Internet all the ai. Like, why did it take so so long for them to respond? Was this unknown thing that was going to happen? They allowed it to happen, so now they have a reason where Netanyahu stays in power, a war gets, you know I
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find that hard to imagine.
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It’s it’s a horrific notion. If it is true, it’s absolutely horrific. Yeah. It’s horrific that we could even consider that a human being who’s running a country would allow their citizens to die. And I’m not saying they did, but we do know that people have done that in the past.
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You know, false flags are that is a legitimate strategy to for an unwilling populace to be entertained into going to war. I mean, that’s what they were trying to do with operation Northwoods. Operation Northwoods, which was signed by the joint chiefs of staff, they were trying to get people to support a war with Cuba.
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And so what they did was they were gonna they were gonna blow up, a drone jetliner, blame it on the Cubans. They were gonna arm Cuban friendlies and and fuck up Guantanamo Sana. Mhmm.
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And they
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were gonna say, okay, this is it. Cuba is attacked. We have to attack back. And then next thing you know, we’re at war with Cuba. And that was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That was a full on plan that was vetoed by Kennedy. Right. Wow. Yeah. Which is so we know that.
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We also know that Gulf Of Tonkin incident in Vietnam, false flag. So we know that they’ve people have done stuff before where they either have allowed something to happen, like Pearl Harbor, or they have just, you know, they’ve just capitalized on it. You just have to figure out which one is which. Right.
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I meh, World War two started with a false flag. You know this. Right? Yeah. The Gliwitz incident.
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Which one was that?
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So they basically, in order to justify the invasion of Poland, Hitler pretended that Polish soldiers had crossed the border and killed people in Germany. Oh. And that was their pretense for attacking.
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Well, he also burned the Reichstag too. Right? Didn’t he blame other people on that?
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Yeah. I don’t know that Sai know that for a fact. I I I’m maybe just not educated enough about that one. But the Gladwoods incident, they basically set it up so that it looked like the Poles had invaded.
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Didn’t Nero do that too? Didn’t he burn Rome and blame other people for that as well?
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That Ai don’t know. The the the the the the story is that he fiddled ai whilst Rome burned.
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Did, use perplexity to find out if, Nero did that. Did he use did he burn part of Rome?
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Might as well do the Reichstag as well because I
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ai Yeah. Let’s do that as well. Because I think that’s just a common tactic for assholes. Yeah. I know. Someone’s an asshole in in control of a government.
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But I think letting a 4,000 jihadis invade your country and rape and slaughter and butcher people, that to me is beyond the realm of imagination.
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Of course. As is 09:11. But there’s a lot of kooky people that believe that that was allowed to happen as well.
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You know, for the longest time, I thought that, the bryden, Center seven, that was ai a big question mark. But ai friend, Winston Marshall, he sent me a video that, like, explains it very well for the I hadn’t seen a good explanation of it. But it it it kind of it made a lot of sense to me.
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Well, it doesn’t happen all at once. That’s one common misconception. You can watch the video. The top collapses inside the building Right. A couple minutes before it all goes.
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That’s right. That’s right.
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Yeah. And I think I sana my fucking money back ram where I built that thing. That’s for sure. Right. I’d be ai, bro. Yeah. You guys cut some fucking corners or something. Right. Whatever your your plan had that you had to keep this thing stable. Nero’s role in the myth. Contrary to popular myth, there’s no credible evidence that Nero started the fire.
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Ai we go.
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He was in the Antium when it broke out and returned to coordinate emergency measures such as opening public spaces for refugees and importing food. The image of Nero fiddling while Rome burns is a later invention. The fiddle did not exist at the time. Of course, fiddled doesn’t mean ai a fiddle.
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This is ai AI being literal. Yeah. Means fiddle around. And while like fiddle spinners, you fuckhead. And while some sources claim he sang about the fall of Troy during the fire, this account is disputed and likely part of political smear campaign. Who the fuck knows?
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You’re dealing with too many years ago with this kind of shit. But either way, false flags are a real thing. Sure.
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Yeah. And
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that’s why people get real suspicious.
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Yeah. But a lot of the sorry. Go ahead.
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No. I do I was thinking, but is there not a part of you that just goes, eventually, the truth comes out? You know what I mean? Eventually. Well Especially in in a country as small as Israel, which is tiny.
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Well, look at JFK. I mean, that’s the truth has not come out about that. We’re all, like, still trying to figure that out. Mhmm. And they’re they’re they’re talking in this election, like, there’s gonna be a thing when they release the JFK files. Oh, great. We’re finally gonna know. Nothing. There’s nothing.
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There’s
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So why do you think that is? Why ai that not been because is that is it because there’s nothing there and what ai told is what happened is what happened?
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Own words were if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn’t release it either.
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Wow.
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What the fuck does that mean?
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I mean, probably means the government assassinated Kennedy.
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Kennedy was the government.
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Well, I meh, the CIA. I mean,
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the the
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deep state or whatever it was at the ai, Whoever it was. I mean, there’s there’s ai friend Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee. He has a theory of his own about, Kennedy pulling, out air support from Bay Of Pigs. And that without air support, that operation could never be effective and a bunch of people are gonna die that shouldn’t have died.
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And a bunch of those guys that were on that beach lost brothers, and they were hardcore, like, serious soldiers. And you get those guys to kill Kennedy
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That’s interesting.
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As revenge. Because it was a very coordinated event. If if it went the way the, you know, Oliver Stones of the world think it went Mhmm. Which I think I tend to think he’s, like, pretty accurate. I think he’s I think he knows what what happened, roughly. And there’s multiple people shooting at the same time, and this should never be allowed to be a path where you’re on a convertible with a fucking president.
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There’s bushes, and people can hide behind the bushes. You don’t you don’t have it sussed out. You didn’t, like, you didn’t scan the bushes and make sure there’s nobody with a rifle there. Like, the whole thing’s nuts. You would never set it up that way if you were the Secret Service.
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Well, sai, the obvious counterargument to that in my head, I’m just playing the argument out with you. I I don’t know anything, is what happened to Trump. Right?
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Well, that’s not a counterargument because, the Trump thing is easily the same story if that kid’s a better shot. That kid’s a better shot. You have a dead president and you have, Patsy, maybe. Who knows? You have some kid who was in a BlackRock commercial two years prior who, somehow or another, has a a professionally scrubbed apartment. So they find his apartment.
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It doesn’t have any silverware in it after he’s dead. They cremate him within days. There’s no toxicology report, no autopsy. Mhmm. There’s there’s no information on the kid.
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He has no social media. What fucking kids have no social media? He has three different phones. Why does he have three different phones? Why is there metadata from a phone outside of DC, outside of where the FBI office is traveling back and forth to this kid multiple times?
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Why is he training, you know, in, like, this these very technical, gun ranges, where people are doing, like, tactical training and stuff like that. Like, what is this guy doing? Like, who’s who’s getting him to do this? Why is he doing this? Do you think he really has knowledge that this thing is gonna go down in Butler?
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Why are they allowing this guy to walk around the grounds with a ai thirty minutes before the event? Why is he is he seen? How does he get on the roof? How do they not have someone on the roof?
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How
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do they not like, there’s a lot of weirdness to it. Why is it the first one of those things that they’re televising live on CNN? There’s a lot of weird ones.
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So, yeah, it’s not a counterargument. In fact, it backs up the point. Yeah.
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It’s not only to back up the point, like, the kid just sucked. He missed, You know? I don’t know what kind of a sight he had on his ai. At the very he might have had a red dot, but he he definitely didn’t have, like, a good long range scope, it looks like, from the the the video or the images of the rifle that I’ve seen laying on the, rooftop.
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If he had a really good scope and he was a good shot, that’s an easy shot. It’s only a 150 yards, I think, from that roof, which is also preposterous that you would allow a person to climb onto a roof within a 150 yards of a guy who’s a very controversial figure who’s running for president.
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Nuts. The whole thing’s nuts.
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You know, we interviewed a guy called Michael Francis, who’s a former he’s a former head of one of the big crime families.
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I don’t
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think he was head.
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Of was he not head
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or He was senior.
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He was a senior.
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He was a big guy.
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Yeah. Big guy. And he said when it comes to JFK, he said at the time in the meh, there was a joke where they would say, oh, we shot the wrong Kennedy. And he said that it was mob related.
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Yeah. It could have been. Yeah. It could have been. I meh, yeah, it could have been multiple different shooters from multiple different organizations. I don’t think Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent. You know, people ai Lee Harvey Oswald acted saloni. Like, that doesn’t have to be the case.
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He might have actually even shot at Kennedy. He might have been one of the guys who shot at Kennedy. I think they had him set up to be the guy that takes the blame. Whether or not he actually pulled the trigger, he might have. I’m not opposed to the idea that he might have. What I am opposed to the ai of a one single shooter causing all that damage because it’s illogical.
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It’s not just illogical, it was created because they had to account for a bullet that hit the underpass. So a bullet ricocheted off one of the curbstones in the underpass and fucked this guy up. And so they found the curb that had been chipped. This guy got wounded. He got hit with a ricochet. He went he got treated in the hospital. So they know that was one bullet. Mhmm.
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So now they have to two bullets. One is a shah and one goes through Kennedy’s body and into Connelly’s body. The problem with that is Kennedy reacts to a gunshot before Connelly ever does because Connelly wasn’t hit. Connelly was hit afterwards. Connelly was hit after Kennedy was shot in the neck, and then he was shot in the back, and then he was shot in the head.
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02:39:22
Kennedy was shot multiple times. The the one in the neck, he grabs his neck in the beginning of the video. There’s a different there’s two different depictions of what that is. There’s the Dallas Hospital where they take him right after the shooting where they say it’s an entry wound.
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And then in Bethesda, Maryland, they they say it’s a tracheotomy wound. Like, they they trach them, which is preposterous. He’s no head. His head’s missing. You you put a a trach pipe on a guy that does is half his fucking head’s missing and he’s dead as fuck. No. You didn’t. No.
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It’s a fucking entry wound. You see him grab his neck. He got shot in the neck. And it looks to me like his head was shot at the very least one time from the front. At the very least one time.
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But it might have been his head might have get hit by two bullets at the same time. I mean, there’s people shooting at him. I think there was multiple people shooting him from different directions, and he does have a wound in his back. He has an entry wound in his back. So someone probably shot him in the back too. It might have been Oswald. Oswald might have shot him in the back.
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But I think the back end to the left and the people that all called out that said that there was people firing behind him in the grassy knoll, I bet that’s correct. Ai the whole way that they have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? No. It’s small. It’s real weird. And it’s a there’s a turn.
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Like, you have to make this turn. Like, if you were a sniper, you couldn’t ask for a better place to set up because this guy is going 30 miles an hour or on a stupid little turn and coming straight at you and you’re just sitting there in the bushes. You could peck him off. You could peck him.
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The people that say that he couldn’t shoot ram from the windowsill, it’s too hard of a shot, he wasn’t a good marksman, shut the fuck up. Anybody could do that. I could show you how to do vatsal. And you could do that in ai I talked to my friend Andy Stump. I was talking about it on the podcast. Sai said, give Andy a day. And he goes, fuck a day. He goes, give me a couple hours.
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I could teach you how to do that. It’s not that hard. Ai, with with a good rifle.
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What about this JD Tippett?
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Yeah. It seems like, Lee Harvey Oswald killed this cop. So it seems like when Lee Harvey Oswald was taking off, he had an altercation with this cop, and he shot the cop. Four times. Yeah. Well, I that’s why I think. I don’t think Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent. I think he was in on it, but I think he was the setup.
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He was the patsy, and they were gonna have him go down for it. Whether or not he actually killed Kennedy, he he might have. Look. If he shot him in the back, if that one shot from the back was was Lee Harvey Oswald, maybe that would have killed Kennedy. Maybe that was the one that killed him or would have killed him before the headshot. But he was hit multiple times.
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Do you know what when you read about Kennedy and then you saw the the, you know, the attempted assassination of Trump, it makes you realize just how fragile societies are. Like, how different would our world be if, for instance, Kennedy survived and or Trump hadn’t and vice versa? You know? Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
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Do you know, like I remember someone asked me that question. It was ai, what do you think would have happened
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Yeah.
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If if if the bullet had been, within the Trump’s case, two inches further to towards the ai, whatever it was. You know, how different would our society be right now?
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Very. Very different. Very different.
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Would it be the beginning of a civil war?
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Who knows? It could’ve everything could’ve popped off. And on top of that, who would be president? Right? Would they suspend the presidential elections and allow the Republicans to come up with a new viable candidate? Would JD Vance run for president? How would they do it? What would they who would be the representative of the Republicans? Would they suspend the election entirely?
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Would, you know, they do something where Kamala just gets sworn in by the then president Biden? Who knows? I don’t know.
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This is why I think political polarization of the kind we’ve seen is so scary because, I mean, the thing that really struck me when Charlie was assassinated was this was always possible. Yeah. And all the only reason it wasn’t happening is we kinda had a culture of, like, we don’t do this, basically. Right?
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Because anyone can pick up a rifle in this country. And that’s why I really worry about the fact that people think political violence is justified.
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Not just justified, but celebrated. Yeah. That was the creepy part. The creepy part was the celebration, the people that were celebrating. Some lady recently just lost her job because people were driving by. She was doing a no kings protest, and she started mocking, getting shot in the neck.
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And she was a school teacher. Yeah. Elementary school teacher. Yeah. Fucking crazy people. There’s a lot of crazy people out there.
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And some of the I mean, people are, you know, they’re they’re correct in worrying about the impact that these people have on their children. You’re correct.
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Correct.
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You have a
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lot of crazy people that are teaching your kids.
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I know so many people now who are homeschooling, and to be honest, it’s something I’m thinking about.
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It’s not a bad idea. I mean, the problem socially is, like, kids need to hang out together.
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Yeah. You know,
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it’s really important.
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I worry about that too.
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Yeah. But, I mean, I think you could probably replace that with sports and good friends.
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Yeah.
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And especially if you lived in a community where multiple people were homeschooling.
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Yeah.
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But then, you know, people get weirded out about homeschooling because they think it’s gonna oh, that leads to religious radicals,
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you know. You don’t have to be religious to homeschool.
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People in this country Exactly. Connected to religious Christians, like radical Christianity.
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I just don’t want some 25 year old with blue hair teaching my son that communism is brilliant. Exactly.
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Can
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Ai can I not have that? And the weird one
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is people that have no desire to have children of their own. You know? And then but they wanna indoctrinate people’s kids into their way of thinking. It’s like a part of why they teach. You know?
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It’s because they’re so this is I I was we we were having this conversation yesterday, I and I said to Konstantin, the great thing about an ideology is it gives you certainty. Mhmm. The terrible thing about an ideology is
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It gives you certainty. Certainty.
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That is so true. And it’s also the appealing thing about it.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, I’ve always been attracted to the idea that these people, like, really believe. Like, it’s fascinating when I watch, like, super religious people that are praying five times a day and, like, like that is amazing. Ai, look how dedicated they are to that thing. Ai, you there’s an attractiveness to that.
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Like, God, I wish I was like if I was that dedicated to something, Ai probably be like way more stable in my life. Yeah. You know, because you’re just locked in and everybody believes and, you know, you see people talking about their religion with utmost certainty, like, I wish I was that certain.
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Yeah.
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Wish I was that certain. Those guys are so certain they’re willing to ai. Like
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It also it also gives you, like, a lot of inner peace. It does. Like Oh, yeah. If you don’t have that, which I don’t, and I’ve like, I’ve got a friend who’s who’s a devout Muslim, and he’s and he’s going through tough times at the moment. And I say to him, like, how how do you get through this? And he’s like, bro, I’ve got my religion.
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I’ve got God, and I know everything is gonna be okay. He’s a great guy. And he goes, I pray five times a day. It really helps meh. And it makes me realize and understand that what I’m going through is part of his plan. It’s part of his plan.
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Yeah. If you really do believe that, it definitely will help you.
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I haven’t got there, but I have started going to church every now and again.
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Yeah? Yeah. Do you enjoy it?
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I love it.
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Yeah. I do. It’s about I do too. It’s a bunch of people that are going to try to make their lives better. They’re trying to be a better person. And they’re trying to I mean, for me at least, the place that I go to, they, you know, they read and, analyze passages in the Bible.
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I’m really interested in what these people were trying to sai, because I don’t think it’s nothing. There’s a lot of, like, atheists and and secular people that just like to dismiss Christianity as being foolish. You know, it’s just fairy tales. I hear that amongst, you know, self professed intelligent people. Like, it’s it’s a fairy tale. I’m ai, I don’t know if that’s true.
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I I think I think there’s more to it. I think it’s history, but I think it’s a confusing history. It’s a confusing history because it was a long time ago. And it’s people telling things in an oral tradition and writing things down in a language that you don’t understand, in the context of a culture that you don’t understand, and I think there’s something to what they’re saying.
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I think there’s a reason why they all have a flood myth.
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Mhmm.
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I think there’s a reason they all have a very similar story of catastrophic floods and chaos, and then that jives with what geologists are finding and what these people are finding that are exploring the Younger Dryas impact theory. That there was there was floods, massive, enormous amounts of water that are instantaneously released from melting ice caps
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all
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over the world because of common impacts, like it happened. There’s evidence, physical evidence of this happening. And I think that’s what they’re trying to say in these stories. I just think it’s so confusing. It’s so confusing because you’re dealing with a time so long ago, you you meh talk about how different people live today
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Mhmm.
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On Earth, but way more similar today than we would be reacting or interacting with a society that existed 6,000 ago? Like, what what are we even talking about? Like, what is that like? What is the world like then? What is what is discourse like? Like, what is what rules are there?
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What what what protections do you have against being robbed and stolen ram? And how often is war? Ai you know, what is life like back then? It’s fucking nuts. And so you’re writing things down on animal skins frantically and hiding them in clay clay jars in Qumran and, like, Sai hope somebody finds this someday.
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And then thousands of years later, someone does. They find these ancient fucking scrolls and they pull them out and they’re they’re versions of stories from the Ai. So these people have been telling these same stories for thousands of years, like, well, okay. What were they trying to say? That’s what’s interesting to me.
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I don’t think it’s nothing. No. No. I think there’s something to it, and there’s a reason why it resonates with people. And Christianity in particular is the most fascinating to me because there’s this one person that everybody agrees existed vatsal somehow or another had the best plan for how human beings should interact with each other and behave and was the best example of it and even died in a nonviolent way.
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It didn’t even protest, died on the cross supposedly far since. Like, it’s a fascinating story. What does it represent though? That’s the real thing. What was that?
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Like, what happened? Who was Jesus Christ if it was a human being? What was that? That’s wild.
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Well, Jordan’s idea is as I understand it, is that the point of the of of the story, if you like, is it’s about voluntary self sacrifice. It’s about the fact that to have a good society, people have to be willing to sacrifice something of themselves for others. And that’s what what Jesus is and that story is supposed to inspire in all of us.
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Right. But it’s a historical human being too, though. Yeah. It’s a historically documented human being. That’s where it gets weird, because there’s a there’s a universal depiction of what this human being was like that doesn’t seem to vary that meh, but you know the people that knew him.
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That gets weird.
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You know, you and if you go to Jerusalem, you can go to the Bryden Of The Gethsemane. And for those people who don’t know, that’s where Jesus was arrested by the Roman soldiers. It still exists. You can go there two thousand years later. Wow. And you just literally walk around this place. You’re just ai, meh god. Like, the connection to those stories, it’s just it’s right there.
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And also Ai think what this the the lessons that you learn from going to church are incredibly profound. Something as simple as I was raised Catholic is, you know, they’d say speak be upon you, towards the end. Let’s sow each other a sign of peace. Yeah. And you literally shake hands with the person next to you. Right. You don’t know this person.
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You may have never met them, but you shake hands with the person ai, in front, and whatever else.
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Yeah.
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What an incredibly profound gesture that is. Just to shake hands with ai. And all your anger and all your resentment and everything you feel, which is natural and jealousy, and you go and but you make a literal physical connection with another human being. That is so powerful.
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Yeah. And if you don’t have something to believe in, that you don’t there’s not a thing that you follow that you believe is making you be a better version of yourself, be a better person. If you’re just relying on your whims and your, you know, whatever you think is the moral thing to do, you know, then you know what you get?
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You get those people that are unable to answer the question of whether or not you should protect an unborn fetus or whether or not they have human rights.
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Mhmm.
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No. No. No. They don’t. They just and they just, like, that’s what you get. That’s what you get when you have no religion. Yeah. If you have religion, you go, wow. That’s a good question.
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Mhmm.
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That’s a very good question.
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And it it’s it’s also as well, you know, when we look at the new atheist movement, and that’s something that I really followed, you know, Dawkins and all these kind of people who pointed out the ridiculousness of certain religions, etcetera, etcetera. And then we don’t need religion. Ai think that’s fundamentally inaccurate. I think human beings need religion.
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I don’t know if you need it, but it definitely can help.
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But I think societies need it.
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Yeah. Ai I don’t Sai just think it’s silly to dismiss all these stories as being useless.
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Totally.
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I just I I think they were trying to say something.
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Right.
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And I don’t know what that something is, but the deeper you dive into it, the more interesting it gets.
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Yeah. Well, last time we had Richard on the show, if you remember, we ai pushed him on this. Yeah. And his aunt he as far as we could get is he was ai, well, you know, maybe it’s a it’s a story that’s useful, but it’s still not true. Ai I’m going, well, if it’s useful, maybe we should hang on to it for a little bit, you know.
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Do we wanna throw away something that’s useful because we’re so fixated on literal truth when this is, perhaps sai metaphor or something?
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Ai? Perhaps.
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Yeah. You know? Sai, yeah, I’ve kinda moved on on that. I I was, you know, I used to love all that new atheist stuff.
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Me too. But a lot of those guys fell apart. And all those guys get real persnickety. You don’t they don’t seem very enlightened.
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Yeah.
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They don’t seem like they’re at peace, which is interesting, you know? Because, that’s the the true Christians that I’ve meh. And I’ve met some, like, legitimate, like, very charitable, kind Christians. They’re some of the happiest and kindest people I’ve ever met.
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And that’s borne out in the in the statistics as well. Yeah. However, I will say this, though. Right? I and I think this is worth like, the best people I’ve ever met are Christians, but also some of the worst people I’ve met.
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Oh, sure.
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You know what I mean?
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Well, there this is a real issue with in Texas, where this is very wealthy guys that are trying to put they they succeeded in getting the 10 Commandments put in every public school, but they essentially want Texas to be a theocracy. They’re they’re Netters.
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Right.
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They’re out on the fringe, you know. They’re, they’re ai and brimstone type Jesus is coming. Like, them folks. Those folks are real too. That scares the shit out of meh. Because, like, I was talking to Ron White about that. Like, Ron White’s a southern guy. I’ve been here his whole life.
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Like, he’s like, be careful of them fucking really crazy Christians because don’t think they’re like regular Christians.
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Right.
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And he’s right. There’s you get to the fringe where, you know
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Yeah. And it’s the same with other religions. This is not specific to Christians.
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Yep. Yep. It’s fun it’s nutters. It’s just nutters. Whether they’re nutters as a Mormon or nutters as a Baptist, they’re just nutters. They’re crazy people that take things to the utmost degree.
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Do you remember, do you remember Richard Pryor in Live at the Sunset Strip where he was talking about being in jail, and he talked about meeting Islamic fundamentalists. He called them double Muslims.
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Oh, Richard Pryor.
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And that
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and that’s why there’s so so much in fact. Have you ever seen that Ai Phillips bit No. About the the bridge? No.
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It’s one of the greatest jokes of all time. Really?
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You oh, you’re gonna love this.
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What is it about?
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It’s about, he he meets a guy who’s about to jump off a bridge, and he starts talking to him, and he realizes there’s a lot of similarities. But I ram not gonna do it justice sai Jamie can play it. Emo Phillips.
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No. I know. I Oh,
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you know it? Sorry. Sorry.
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Can we not play it?
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That’s I don’t it’s a four minute bit of someone else’s yeah.
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We’ll get in trouble. Yeah. I’ll I’ll listen to it afterwards. We can rap.
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This is
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one of the best jokes ever.
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What are
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you guys doing tonight? You hanging out? Yeah. Yeah. Come to the club.
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Sure. Let’s have a party.
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Let’s go. Sounds fun.
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Hey. It’s always a pleasure. It’s really great to see you guys. I’m I know I’m trying to get you to leave this your shitty country and come to Meh, but, I really do hope you win over there and fix that place. I I always loved England. It’s an awesome place to visit and Ai, you know, I think of it you got what you guys do in having these conversations, I I really do think is important.
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I think it’s important for the whole world, but I think it’s really important for England,
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you know.
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Well, it’s you know, the way we feel about it is it’s our country, man, and we don’t wanna run away. I get it. You know? We love it. We love our country. We we wanna live you know, you talk about living, and we love England the same way you guys do.
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If The United States was California, I would have done the same. Right.
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You know?
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Yeah. But it’s not.
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Right. I guess
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I could escape, so I escaped. But, yeah, I would have felt the same way, ai, staying staying sorted out.
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Yeah. And Ai Try. Ai.
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At least bryden. Until till it gets real bad.
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I mean, we’re about to get wealth taxes by all accounts. Right? So that’s that’s the next level.
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Well, look on the bright side. You got digital ID now. So that’s
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Yeah. We’re looking forward to that one.
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Trigger Namachi, it’s available everywhere. It’s a great show. I love you guys. Always great to see you.
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Thanks, guys.
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Appreciate you.
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Thank you, brother. Alright.
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Appreciate Thanks. Ai.
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Bye, everybody.