#2393 – Bryan Callen

Bryan Callen is a comedian and actor. He’s the host of the “Off Limits” podcast and co-host of “The Fighter and the Kid” with Brendan Schaub. Check out his new comedy special "False Gods" on YouTube now. www.bryancallen.comwww.youtube.com/@BryanCallenComedy Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visible. Live in the know. Join today at https://www.visible.com/rogan Take 50% off a SimpliSafe system at https://simplisafe.com/ROGAN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Bryan Callen is a comedian and actor. He’s the host of the “Off Limits” podcast and co-host of “The Fighter and the Kid” with Brendan Schaub. Check out his new comedy special “False Gods” on YouTube now.

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I was at I was at Taren tactical, and I was shooting, and I I and Logan Paul was there, and I just met him. And, I hit a dove. No. I grazed a dove somehow. Right?

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Oh, no. Yeah. They did fly right. Down there.

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Oh, no. Ai I sai, Logan and I come up and I ram the dove and I’m gonna wring its neck so it doesn’t suffer. And Logan Logan goes, wait. Hold. Let me just see it. And he takes it in his hands and and and instead of me wringing its neck because I don’t want it to suffer, I swear to God it was all you know how your the wing is like this?

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Uh-huh. His his Jesus energy, his his whatever his energy is, he held it in both hands. I swear to God, the thing kinda just went just kinda put its wing back in and just fucking flew out of his hands. And I was like, alright.

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Well You

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were gonna kill it. I was gonna kill it. I was

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like, alright. They are delicious. Maybe that’s Logan’s celebrity powers.

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Do you

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know that it’s ai the most hunted bird in North America?

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Listen, pigeons delicious. And I was just hunting them in London, sai, on the outskirts of London. I just got back.

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I was like, in the city? I don’t think you’re allowed to do that. But

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This is why this is why I can’t do anything. Look at me. What’s meh I I don’t know how to do this. Help me.

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It’s like a door. You you open the yeah. Like that. I know. It’s weird.

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Alright. Yeah. But you know, actually They’re

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all different.

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I I get pissed when I can’t figure out a little shit like that. Yeah. Like a child speak. I’m like, okay. And I go I look at my wife, I go, you do it. And I just throw my hands up.

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What is it about men that we don’t read directions? Ai don’t I never read directions. Ai open the box, Ai look at this fucking bullshit, put that aside. I don’t need this. Ai. I’ll figure this out.

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Ai my wife remember one time when my kid was really young, I had to put together a child’s meh. And I’m like, I can do it. And I go to put the bed together and and, well, I couldn’t. I I couldn’t because there were directions. And I was like, I the screws, you know how they number the screws? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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And I’m sitting there like ai, and I’m making noise, and I’m going, My ai like, what’s wrong with that? Sai out of the room. Apparently, she gave me the room. Get out of the room. I got this.

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You should

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do hard cardio before you put together a new ai.

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Dude, no. This is what I did. Just get calm. I called I called my buddy, and I go, I’ll give you 300 to come over here right ai. I’ll put this bed together. He he builds houses. He comes over.

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He goes,

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it’s four slats in a frame. Kind of a moron. Oh, yeah. He couldn’t believe it. I was like, shah

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up. Well, that’s different, though. That’s sai guy who’s used to using his hands. Yeah. Not a delicate man like yourself.

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That’s correct, sir. I have soft I have soft hands. I have I’m by the way, fresh if I have some marks on my face, I’m fresh fresh from the, from the vatsal of doing takedowns at 58. That’s a good job. How’s your back?

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You alright?

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You know what, dude? My back is actually good because I I’ve mastered the art of warming up.

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Oh, that’s good. That’s smart.

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I’m pedantic about it. Like, they make fun of meh, and I’m like, fuck off.

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Yeah. You should.

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I do my bird dogs, my fire hydrants, all

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of them. Used to work out for, well, used

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to warm up rather for an hour before he worked out? Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I watched my new pack out. Sai from getting injured.

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I did this thing with, Tosh, Daniel, Tosh, and I, vatsal Ai Gym, where Tosh was getting punched by Manny. And I was, like, help it was, like, some silly sketch we were doing.

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Yeah.

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And, but Manny was there for a real workout day and just kindly, allowed Tosh, like, twenty minutes of his time and they did this little thing. But I got to see Manny work out. It is very meticulous.

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Yes.

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It’s all like these, He’s working out with rubber bands Yep. Where it’s like short little movements and and it’s always twisting and turning and he’s got guys stretching them. He’s like, you know, he’s moving around ai everything’s very slow.

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Very slow.

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Meh the body warmed up first. Yeah. His first couple rounds of even we watched him hit the Meh. His first couple rounds of even hitting the Mets, it’s like ai tap tap tap tap.

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Just move.

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Yeah. Just get everything Yes. Get everything flowing.

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I watched, Olympic ice skaters. I was Ai was doing a gig at LAF Boston and they had some huge tournament. And this woman was in there, she was apparently an Olympian, watching the way she warms up Yeah. Like like like her ankles rubbing down, all these little details. I was ai, that looks boring as shah, but

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It is.

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You have to do it.

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You have to. You have to. Ai, you wind up all busted up and broken.

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But that it allows me to actually wrestle. Did you I used to be 58 and actually shooting single and double legs against the monsters and

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That’s silly.

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And I’m I’m with, like, you know, Shah Apperson or Tyson Mendez, those guys at ai boxing? They’re just all muscle.

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And you’re wrestling with them?

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Yes, sir. Okay. And then Tim Kennedy, those guys planning on getting hurt? Ai to get hurt? Well well, I Maybe first, Bruce, what if why you feel pain? My my advantage is I I just go I make a I make an a

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weird noise Okay. Ai I

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fall. Yeah. Woman. I go like ai. And I tap or I

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fall down. Did you see ai video I sent you of that 80 year old woman who completed an

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Ironman?

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Yes. 80 years old. She completed an Ironman triathlon, which is I think it’s a 120 miles on a bike, and then it’s a meh. And how what is how long is the swim? Did I send it to you, Jamie?

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I think it’s two miles. 2.6 miles. That is

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so crazy. She’s 80 years old.

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Yeah. But I think if you keep if you do something every day like that, I I actually think you can

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Yes.

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It’s it’s just Keep a lot. Like like, what people never do is they they don’t

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Natalie meh. I don’t know how to say your last name. Grabeau? Grabeau? Yeah. Either way, Vatsal, you’re a monster. Amazing. 80 years old.

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So nuts.

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She became the oldest woman to finish the Ironman World Championship. God. That is so

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incredible. Point eight kilometers sai.

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Wow. Sai whatever that is in miles.

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A 108 that’s ai a 108 kilometers ai is like 5,000 miles. I’m just I’m not going to do this.

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I think what they’re doing this kilo I mean, this must be a UK website. It’s I mean covering this. Because I think it’s all done in ai, I believe.

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I’ve I’ve never had an interest in endurance stuff. Do you?

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I have an interest in it, but here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter, Jamie. It’s a lot. Yeah. Anyway, this whatever this lady did It’s a lot. It’s too much. Incredible. We don’t need to break it down exactly to ai, but I’m pretty sure it’s like a 120 mile bike ride and a full meh. I mean, at 80.

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Yeah. All in a day Yeah. And a two mile whatever swim. What the fuck?

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I I don’t know.

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He lays a beast.

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Yeah. You’re it’s a that’s crazy.

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That’s just will. That’s just having a fucking iron will. The problem with that is it will consume your life. Yep. That would that that obsession with endurance will consume your ai, And you can let it do that if that’s what you’re into. I feel like you sana find peace in the punishment that you give yourself like David Goggins does.

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Ai I talk to him, he’s sai he’s so crazy because he’s doing all this stuff by himself for no reason. Yeah. He goes, I’m getting lessons. He’s telling me he’s, like, learning things and he’s not bullshitting. No.

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Like, he’s he really it’s ai he’s like a strange type of a monk that we’ve never had before.

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So let me ask you. The question is, is it a is he a monk, which he probably is, or is he an addict? And maybe you can be

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both. Yeah. You can be both. I think monks are addicts too Mhmm. Because they’re addicted to being calm. They don’t want any women in their life. No. They don’t want any possessions. They’re like, dude, I’m good. Yeah. I’m addicted to just being like this.

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Yeah. They they were doing this this, neuroplasticity ai of like these scans and they found that the monks that sit around and meditate on joy. Mhmm. You know, they, like, think of the joyous things that that part of their brain expands. Okay. I mean

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They should talk to Charlie Sheen because he was telling me a story about how he got his dick sucked while he smoked the crack for the very first time and it was the greatest experience of his life.

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Oh, yeah.

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He said to this day, nothing’s topped it. The greatest experience of his life was the first time he smoked crack, a girl was giving him head.

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Yeah. Well, you know.

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So tell that monk to go fuck himself.

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My friend did ai friend did heroin. He he he, ai, Sai may as well say it, Artie Ai. Artie said it he said it on the podcast. He said, he did heroin the first ai, and as his head hit the pillow, he went, I’m in trouble.

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Woah. Yeah.

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This is just I’m gonna chase this trap.

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I think

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it was Dave. Right? It was. Right?

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Dave Stalls. That shit’ll that shit’ll for some people that shit’ll grab you.

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Ai, I think for most people that shit grabs you. Yeah. I think you have to be ai averse to doing things vatsal fuck your life up. Like, you have to have ai an automatic, like, maybe you grew up around alcoholics or something like that or you sai I I didn’t none of my like, I didn’t have, like, anyone in my family that ruined their life with alcohol.

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But I did have friends that had, close relatives that I saw become addicted to cocaine, and I saw this when I was in high school. So I got, like, really scared of addiction. And I also when I was working construction, there’s this fucking dude that I was friends with who was really cool.

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He was, an older guy. I mean, older than meh, you know, I was like 16 at the time, 17. And, he was probably in his early thirties, but he couldn’t keep his shit together. He just couldn’t stop drinking. And he would he would be good for a while and then he would start drinking again. And, man, he was so funny. He was so fun.

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He was like such a cool guy and he was a drummer in a bryden the band just, you know, never kind of his name is Robbie. And the band never ai of fucking got it together. Yeah. But he was like ai he could have been my best friend if ai we were the same age and we’re hanging out together.

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It’s just not sustainable.

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But I was watching a man who was a carpenter. He was a Finnish carpenter and, you know, very talented carpenter, but he would just ruin his life every

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few Coke.

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With with Coke or with booze? Both. Yeah. Both. Bryden and Coke.

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Yeah.

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But booze would start it off. It would be, you know, he’d all of a sudden be drinking a Budweiser and then it was off to the races.

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I don’t that’s the thing about, addiction. You know, I I or just anything in life if you wanna be good at something. I actually don’t think you can do it necessarily. I mean, some people can maybe, but I don’t know how long. When you say when you talk about discipline, when you say I’m just not gonna do it, you you that works for some people, but I don’t think it works for people like that.

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I think what they have to do Their brains are different. Yeah. Yeah. They have to figure out a way to make sobriety more pleasurable than the other thing. And that’s fucking hard.

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Well, Jimmy Norton, you know, his mom famously said when he was, like, hooked on hookers. She’s ai,

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Jimmy, you gotta take your addictions and channel it into something positive.

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Like, it was really funny. He’d talk about, like, how fucking off the rails he was, but how his mom would help him, you know, like with that piece of advice. But that is true, ai, so if you can all of a sudden become a marathon runner Yeah. When before you were just looking to score meth every day. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. You definitely that’s a better thing to be addicted to because it’s not gonna ruin your life. It might ruin your ankles and your knees and shit, but it’s not gonna ruin your life where it like takes away all your money and you you wind up sucking dick for rocks, you know, like the It’s

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kinda hot.

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People do stuff.

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They do. But do you remember I said to you, I remember meh were talking and I said, I think you had gotten some, you know, it was in the press you made some signed some deal or something. And I said, you know, I’ve known you thirty years and the one thing the the only thing that’s changed about you is you’ve gotten more peace of mind.

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Like, you just haven’t changed really. Like, you just not you haven’t changed. And, I said, what do you think it is? Which I’m always careful about talking about because I don’t want anybody any of my friends to get into their head about it. Right?

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Just, like, shut the fuck off your head.

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You know

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what I mean? Yeah. Like, don’t start asking too many questions. But I was, like, gently kinda going, I wonder we were kind of exploring what it is that keeps you grounded. And I you said to me, I like to do something really hard every day sai it reminds me what a bitch I am.

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What that this is the same thing I feel about I wrestle almost four days a week now, which is ridiculous. It’s actually embarrassing. Right? But I do it because it it it’s hard, and I don’t want to. And I have to warm my frame up, and then I have to go wrestle around with these fucking monsters.

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But there’s something about it, getting better at it, ai slowly the incremental incremental getting better at something, and I do it because it’s hard. That grounds me. No matter what, I know I did that today. And that’s a really good starting point.

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Yeah. There’s something jump off of. There’s something that, you know, and and if someone’s listening and they’re not into that, you don’t definitely don’t have to do that. Just try to do yoga every day. Try to go to, one of those Bikram ninety minute hot yoga classes. Some of the hardest shit I’ve ever done physically in my life.

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Oh, shit.

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Oh, shit. So you don’t have to, like, go wrestle. You can do something that more aligns with your political ideology.

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No. I always say that. If you’re especially, I can’t speak to women. If you’re a young man, you wanna find yourself, just get really good at something. Like, just get good at fucking the piano. I don’t care what it is. I I always use jujitsu or something like that just because it’s hard, but it’s it’s a it’s a placeholder for a lot of other things.

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Well, it also lets you know that there’s a process in life that you can apply, like, universally.

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Mhmm.

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And that is, like, focus and attention and, you know, and this objective goal of getting better. And then you see progress. And then you realize, like, oh, this is kind of applicable to just being a human being. Ai, you can get better at being a human being by by thinking about, okay, I fucked that up, I fucked this up. Yes. But I did that good.

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What did I do differently? Oh, okay. Let’s do more of that.

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That would be yeah.

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Over time, you get better at being a human being.

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Yes.

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Right? But if you don’t ever try to get good at anything Yeah. You’re the same douchebag you were when you were in high school. That’s true. But now you’re 48 instead of 16. Yeah. Yeah. And you’re you have the emotional maturity of a child. Yeah. They also do.

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Out there running around like that that are just grown up babies.

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I know.

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And they mask it with they’re they’ll mask it with a good vocabulary, you know. Yeah.

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Or or they’ll mask it with, like, you know, part of, like, everybody wants to be an individual. Right? You wanna be a little mysterious. You wanna have a little, like, a skill set. And one of the great things about stand up is, you you know, no matter where I am, I know I got that.

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Like, I’ll put me in front of a group, a a crowd of a hundred, two two hundred, 300 people, doesn’t matter. I don’t care who they are. I’ll make I’m gonna make them laugh. I know how to navigate that space for an hour. That’s a nice thing to know.

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But if you don’t have that, you don’t have a skill set, if you don’t have something Nothing. What happens is you then negotiate individuality with, accoutrement, as they say in France, which means Might

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dye your hair blue.

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Of course. And and get all kinds of tattoos and then Yeah.

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Wait a minute.

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And then do some crazy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Down

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it all my time.

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But you have no face tattoos.

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Fuck. Not yet.

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But you’re gonna do a lot of shit.

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Meh a heart tip of my nose.

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Get your nipples. Get two hearts on your nipples.

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Or get them pierced. That’s the best. That’s hot. That’s totally you’re definitely making good decisions.

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58 years old.

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Rods through your nipples and you’re a man.

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It’s a new look. I’m trying something out.

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L o l. But you

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know what I mean? You’ll do that. And then you’ll attach yourself to some

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political cause. Yeah. All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. The other ones work for the Fed.

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I have a whole joke about that. It’s like if I can, you know It’s

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FBI agents and losers. That’s all it is. The whole fucking every protest

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Dude.

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Is FBI agents and losers.

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I talk about this all the time. I’m like, for ram me, you want me to join a protest? You want me to get out on the street? First of all, to make a sign? The fuck out of here. And then Ai so

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to make the sign.

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There’s got

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there’s a guy with a van who’s paid by George Soros

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Yes.

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And he’s got stacks of signs that were made at Kinko’s. Okay? They’re not homemade at all. And you can just fucking just pass those bad boys out.

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I’m never leading your revolution. My problem is my sign would say, ugh or it’s complicated.

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Yeah. Well, if you’re really trying to get your life together. But there’s some things, you know, that people feel need to be protested, like Yeah. People in The UK. Like, they’re a polite group. This is a polite sai, England, for the most part, you know. And they’ve gotten to the point where they’re ai, okay, this is kinda nuts. Yeah. Like, what are you guys doing?

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They’ve arrested 12,000 people this year for social media posts.

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Isn’t that insane? Yeah. And counting.

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Yeah. And they’re arresting people for just saying things in public ai, I like bacon around, the Muslims. Meh.

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Is that true? Yes. Because you’re in you’re you’re being annoying. I looked up that that, it’s some kind of an information act that, and if you one of the things is if you’re if you post annoying, annoying. I was like, what?

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What’s everything I’ve ever posted? Ai annoyed.

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And the Brits are the Brits are famously sarcastic.

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Right. And also, it depends entirely on who you are because, like, what’s annoying to me might not be remotely annoying to other people. I mean

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So

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I get to decide whether or not you’ve committed a crime.

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They would’ve they would’ve arrested Trump 50,000 times, you know.

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At least.

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But, that’s that’s, I I always say that the Brits, they the Brits, I I don’t wake them up Yeah. Because they come alive. They that small island of pale people conquered the fucking world. Yeah. Don’t don’t be, like because I think that there’s the Irish too. Like, be careful now.

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Same thing.

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Be careful because they’re very comfortable in a couple situations. They come alive ai when it when it comes to soccer, Ai e football And

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fist ai.

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And fucking war.

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Yeah. And fist fights.

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Correct,

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sir. Just a long history of warriors in both Ireland and The UK. Yes. Yeah. And great. They make great mob movies. Boy, Guy Ritchie’s fucking show Mobland. Dude. Have you watched that show on Netflix? No. I love his movies. Oh, my god. It’s good. It’s so is Mobland ai Netflix? No. It’s Paramount plus?

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They’re all the same. One of them’s streaming service. It’s not all the same. I’m sorry. One of those streaming services has it, but it’s fucking great. Yeah.

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It’s fucking great.

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No. They don’t they don’t

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And it just shows you, like, how crazy, like, The UK mob scene is. Yeah. It’s ai it’s probably pretty accurate.

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Yeah. Yeah. It’s sai they always the SAS and stuff What

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is it, Jimmy? Paramount. Paramount. Paramount. Paramount. Yeah.

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It’s good, though.

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It’s real good. One of the best shows ever. Yeah. Like, as far as, like, you know, dramas where you follow them along, which really ruined movies. This episode is brought to you by Visible. You know that one friend who’s always the first to know about everything? They’ve got a dozen tabs open constantly on their phone and in their head. To be that friend, you need wireless that can keep up.

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Ai, I they’re so sarcastic. I’m sitting there with my my friend. We’re we’re in a shoot. We’re doing a shoot, which would mean you wear a you wear a collar and tie, sir, with with those knickers, those, this

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Are you talking about, like, an a shoot with

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a gun? I did a pheasant shoot.

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Oh, you went hunting. Sai.

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Yes. And now at ai, we shot deer. But in the in the morning time, you have they do ai, and please follow along. We we we wake up. We have a a wonderful breakfast at the estate, and Ai paying for none of this. And then we, we go out and we have a loader. I had a loader because I can’t load my own shells. I had a loader who’s a British ai. That’s what they do.

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And then the villagers beat the bush to get the partridges that have been stocked.

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Partridges or fish?

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I’m sorry. Both.

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Sorry. Both. Both. Okay.

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Now it’s a huge business. It it supports an entire community. So these shoots are, you know, they’re very expensive. So the person sponsoring it pays essentially all these everybody’s making money.

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Rich people recreation.

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I hear you. Rich people recreation. And, but, there’s something there’s something I don’t know what else what what were we talking about? Sai lost my train of thought.

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Ai talking about English people.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. They’re so sarcastic. So I’ve got this loader, who’s next to me, and I’m missing the birds. I’m not good with a shah. And I just they’re coming right out of us, and I’m fucking literally just missing all of them. And at one point, he looks at me and goes, are you a vegan? I was like, fuck you, dude.

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That’s hilarious.

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He goes, swing your barrels. You have

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to learn how to do that. I, actually in The UK, learned how to do it. Ai learned how to do it in Scotland.

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Oh, you did that? Yeah.

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Ai. I did clay pigeons.

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Okay.

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You know, the the Yeah. Those are really fun.

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Yeah. That’s

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fun. And, you learn how you have to lead them and you learn, like, how to shoot with a a shah where you’re you’re kinda ai you kinda it’s almost like feel. Like, you feel where the pellets arya gonna go and you want the disc to

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You gotta swing your barrel. Right? So so when the bird is coming, you you you go belly you have tail, belly, beak, and you keep you pull the trigger as you leave the bird. Yeah.

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So

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it’s like throwing a football. Right. And then they run into the pellets and they they perish.

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So different than any other shooting that I’ve ever done because all the shooting that I’ve ever done, you have to be dead still. Ai, everything I’ve shot with a rifle rather. So rifle shooting, you you don’t move at all and it’s just about control and controlling yourself Yeah.

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And staying calm and not flinching when you pull the trigger. But this is so different. It’s like, you know, they used to say that, like, the Comanche, one of the things that was crazy was the some of them weren’t even really accurate with a bow. Mhmm. If you just gave them a bow and told them to shoot it at ai a target. Right. They weren’t accurate. Really? But on a horse. Uh-huh.

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So on the horse, the gallop and they had this fucking zap. They knew where that arrow was going. Sai that they’re using the chaos. So what the movement and all the, like, the darting around, like, they just guide the arrow, like, in the middle of chaos and war.

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So you love archery. Do you know what what was a game changer with art with with shooting shooting a a a bow from a horse? You know you know what invention changed everything?

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Probably stirrups.

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Thank you.

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Yeah. Because they can hang over the side.

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That’s right. Well, you can also stand up and ai you know? So it’s like Mhmm. You can stay steady and then shoot. The mongol The Comanche

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used to run, like, very similarly. Like, that guy is fucking bad.

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That’s a that’s a mongol, bro.

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That guy is so badass.

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That’s where that guy Shavkat comes from, I think.

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Yeah. But the kind of core strength you have to have to do what that guy was just doing, Go back to that first one, Jamie. On horses. That was vatsal YouTube or something?

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You know who can ride horses like that? Who’s that who’s that good at horses? Sylvester Stallone.

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He was up on horses.

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Oh my god.

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Bro, that kind of strength to be able to hang completely ai. Oh my god. Like, when it starts in the beginning, that’s not as impressive as the very first frame. Go to the very first frame. Look look look at his look at his positioning. That That’s His bananas. That’s bananas. Like, his spine and his core are so they must be so fucking strong.

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Think about fighting him. If you’ve got a sword and you have to deal with a group of those dudes

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in general a lot of bad motherfuckers from that part of the world, bro. A lot of bad motherfuckers.

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Where they hunt with shah other.

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Is actually from the place that Borat used to always make fun of.

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Kazakhstan?

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Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan. Ai, and they hate him. They’re ai, if he comes there, they’re gonna kill him.

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Ai bad. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like, they because they made everybody look like a goat fucker and a retard. And ai, they’re like some of the fiercest fucking human beings on Earth. Yeah. You know? Mhmm. Like Shah, unfortunately, just injured his knee again. He did? Yeah, man. He had surgery in his knee. He was rehabbing his knee and blew it out again.

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And now he has to have another surgery and now it’s ten months. There’s a few guys that I’ve known who have done that where they got ACL reconstruction. I don’t know if Shavkat had ACL, but any kind of reconstruction of the ligaments, you, you feel better before you’re better. You should do my feet.

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You should do my feet. Real careful because what happens is when you get a reconstruction of your knee sai, like, say if they use a cadaver, that does not become your new tendon. What that does is becomes a scaffolding for your new bryden. And so your body has to proliferate that scaffolding of the dead guy’s tendon Wow. With fresh tendon meat.

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Really?

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And eventually, it becomes your tendon. You have

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to wait for it

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to do that. Wait. But it feels good right away, but you’ve got a rotten old piece of meat in there that your body is taking over with its own tissue. Wow. Yeah. Did you

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didn’t you have that done? I had

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that done. Yeah.

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And and how long did it take you? Six months. Really?

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Yeah. Six months I was doing jiu jitsu again.

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But you couldn’t do anything until then?

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No. I was being really smart. Ai I was really smart about it because Sai that was my second knee reconstruction. I had my left knee reconstructed too. That was a patella tendon graft and that one took a lot longer to heal Because you you’re taking a chip out of your bone, a chip out of your shah, and a slice of your patella tendon, which is a very thick, large bryden.

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And then they open you up like a fish and screw both of them in place. It’s very invasive. Whereas the one on the right knee, the ACL reconstruction with the cadaver was a really easy recovery. Like, I was I went to a party, like, six days later with just a brace on just walking around.

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Damn.

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Yeah. It was not bad at all. I mean, I was careful with it, you know, but I was very diligent with the rehab, like, every day. I was doing rehab every day and, like, really doing it. Like, not bullshitting around. I was doing, like, I would go in the steam shower and do deep squats and Wow.

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Ai was really making sure

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that we rebuilt all the tissue before I ever even thought about doing jiu jitsu again. But jiu jitsu sai months later, no problem at all.

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Wow. What protects me is my, moderate temperament. I’m I’m good at, like, you being, like, I can feel a little something. I’ll be stopping now. You know? You probably don’t have that, Jean. You just keep going.

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I’m terrible at that. That’s why I get hurt sometimes. Mhmm. Because I meathead my way through things. Fuck. I just decide to push through the pain, and next

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thing I

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know, I’ve got something legitimately wrong.

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Well, that’s it. Like, I was doing toes to bar where you and and hanging, and I my wrist has never been the same. Like Oh, you

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hurt your wrist?

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Yeah. I pull I broke something or did something where I which, you know, there’s a certain angles. I know. But the problem is you’re way more fragile than you realize.

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You are, for sure.

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Well, I ai. Unfortunately.

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You know what I’ve been doing ai? Tougher. Everyday I hang for two minutes. Everyday. Everyday.

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It’s really good.

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And it’s new. It’s I’ve only been doing it ai the last few weeks.

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What do you get

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out of it? I think I feel better ai my spine feels better. Ai been doing a bunch of things at the same ai, so it’s hard to tell what has the most impact. I think they all have a lot of impact, but one of the things I’ve been doing is, like, I go to this guy and get trigger point work. Right.

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Trigger point ai. It’s it’s so painful.

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It’s some

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of the most fucking it’s not massage. You can call it massage. It’s this ai digging elbows and knuckles into, like, your IT band and you yeah. Ai calves.

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You’re dead. My ai, I’ll fucking cry.

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Different parts of your speak, different parts of your calves, your Yeah. Your legs, your your lower back, all that stuff. But also hanging every day. And the more I in the beginning, I was like, I wonder if this is gonna, like, really help anything or if it’s just me trying to see how long I can hang.

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Yeah. And so now, I do two minutes. I just hang there

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for two minutes. By the sai.

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Yeah. I can go to two thirty seven. That’s the longest I’ve gone. Ai now, I’m

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like two zero two. But I wonder probably, first of all, it makes your hands really strong. Strong.

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It makes my hands real strong. Yeah. They’re very callous now, like, maybe more callous than they’ve ever been. They’ve always been kind of callous from ai, but now I’m getting different ones like on the front Yeah. Fingers. The the the pointer fingers. I always get my calluses on the right where the ring finger is for some reason on both hands. It’s the biggest calluses.

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I guess that’s where it grip the hardest or where it grinds around the most. But my back feels better. This just feels ai looser. Mhmm. Ai, it’s got it’s like it’s and I’m like, okay. Well, I’ve only done this for a few weeks every day.

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Like, what if I do this every day for a year? Like, what happens? Does it can you actually decompress your spine? Well, turns out

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you can. You can. Yeah.

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So I started going on YouTube and following people’s, hanging journeys. Yeah. This is one lady. She I guess, she broke the world record. She hung for twenty three minutes.

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What? What? Isn’t it funny?

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What? Of

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a human body, if you can you can train yourself to do almost any how you can adapt, but that’s nuts.

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There’s people out there that are just different than you. There are people that Ai know that. They have not just you, like, everybody listening. They have a different will. Mhmm. Their will is different. The the kind of will that you have to have to hang from a bar for twenty three fucking minutes is so crazy.

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This guy does it for two hours and twenty two minutes.

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What?

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Ai? He’s switching arya, obviously, but he’s

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the longest You know what? Life is too long.

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That lady has the ladies record.

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Life is too short to hang from a bar that long.

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Two hours and twenty two minutes. That’s pretty crazy,

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though. It’s crazy.

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That guy must be a fucking some kind of crazy rock climber. Right?

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His body his body looks pretty, pretty normal.

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Well, it’s all really about your hands and your grip. If you arya rock climber, I mean, you have to have leg strength and flexibility and a bunch of other things as well for sure. Yeah. But, God, your grip is what keeps you alive. Without your grip, you don’t have jack shit. Right.

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But, this lady that was doing it, I was just watching her doing it. She was doing the same thing. She sai, like, switching hands and shit. So So you give your left hand a speak, and

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then you hold on with your right ai. You’re right hand a

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break along with your left. Yeah.

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I think your body I do it I I find that the game changer for me was when I stopped stretching and started strengthening. Right? So you can stretch. You should do some stretching, but my routine before I wrestle or something is to strengthen. So I’ll warm it up. So I do I do strengthening exercises for my lower back and all

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that stuff. Right? Like planks and

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stuff. Or just, you know, just like bird dogs and fire hydrants and Yeah. You know, all that shit. And, that stuff is that that’s been the game changer. Like, with my shoulders, I was getting tendonitis. Right? And then I just started doing all these different shoulder things with

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bands. Mhmm.

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Right before I do it, and sure enough, you get stronger. My neck, same thing. My neck people don’t work their neck. Mhmm. Like, as they get older at all, I think your neck is really important.

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Oh, for sure. What do you do?

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I do that iron, you know, that I

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got that.

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And then I get a band ai, and I’ll just turn like that. Like, I’ll be on my

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The best thing about the ai neck, in my opinion, is there’s other stuff that you could do, like, harnesses where you do, like, chin ups with your or, like, not chin ups ai like you think of. But you have this harness around your head and then there’s a chain and at the end of the chain is a dumbbell.

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And then what you’re doing is just using your neck to lift the weights. The guy from Iron Neck had a real good point. He’s like that that puts ai weird stress on your all those different discs.

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It does? Yeah. Yeah. So when you’re doing this

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When you’re yeah. And he’s like, you can really get hurt. Whereas, what you wanna do is strengthen your neck so that it doesn’t do that. Right? In all sports.

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Mhmm.

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In sports, it’s very rare that you use your neck like that. Wrestling. I used to use my neck in jujitsu, and I actually started developing a problem. I had a bulging disc for a while. And that it was one, it was also definitely getting caught and not tapping ai a dumbass. But two, it was arm triangles. I was I had a really good arm triangle, head and arm choke.

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So if I got mount on someone and I was able to isolate that arm that Ai I have a really good head and arm choke. But in that head and arm choke, I’m using my neck.

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Mhmm.

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That’s part of the reason why it’s good because I have a thick neck. So because if I can get your arm right here, I got another weapon.

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Yes.

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Like, you’re thinking about my arms holding on to you, but I’m holding on to you with this. And this is strong as fuck. If I get you in this position and I’m holding that arm there but the problem was Ai was developing, like, a real pinched nerve and then it wound up making my fingertips sana.

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And then that’s when I found out shah chiropractors are quacks. I went to a chiropractor for, like, a year and just gave this guy money to bullshit me.

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It was

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ai, god ram it. Maybe it’s still mad ai your foot? Press on the top of my head to see if I had a bulging disc.

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I’m not

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kidding. I go, maybe I have a bulging disc. And, like, I just thought this guy was cool. I thought he was a doctor as well. I didn’t know that chiropractors go to zero days of medical school and they get to call themselves a doctor. I also didn’t know that chiropractic, the whole idea of it was founded by a magnetic healer Yeah. Who, ai, it came to him like a seance or some shit.

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He was a

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complete fraud. And his son, who was a con artist, took over the business. Sana ran over him with a car, by the way. Killed that guy. Really? Yeah. Son killed the dad, ran over him with a car. Path. And then took over his business and then started saying that, you know, the cracking people’s backs can fix leukemia and all kinds of shah.

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You have to you have to align your meridian points.

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Oh, yeah. The whole shit. It’s all made up stuff. But there is something beneficial about manipulating your ai, though. This is what’s interesting. Right? There’s something beneficial about, massage and a lot of the other things that they’re doing. They’re they’re essentially loosening up, like, this trigger point shit that I told you I’ve been doing. That’s the extreme version of it, which I think is way more effective.

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But there’s something to the manipulation.

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Well, it releases them all. Right?

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But there’s also a lot of people that have had fucking serious consequences of getting their neck cracked

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where

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they have strokes

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Correct.

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And, like, things fucked like, there’s a there’s a guy I just saw on, the news the other day that had compartment syndrome Yeah. Where he’s, like, he can’t move his body anymore because he went to a chiropractor. And before, he’s, like, this, like, little smiley happy guy, like

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Nightmare.

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And again, this is not all chiropractors. A lot of chiropractors, I’m sure, give you benefit because I think there’s something to, like, loosening you up.

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Well, no. It’s not pushing

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Some chiropractors know what you’re talking about. So when they go into it, they study physical therapy. So Yeah. I had a chiropractor say to me, your hips are your your your atrophying your ass is atrophying on the bottom, so you have to strengthen that part because it’ll bring your hips into ai.

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He was dead. He was right on. Yeah. So those guys are ecstatic.

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Yeah. But that’s what he really is. He shouldn’t be saying he’s a doctor. Correct. That’s what’s crazy. It’s not that there’s no benefit to it. It’s ai they all wanna call themselves doctor too. You know, I’m doctor Bryden, like, come on. Yeah.

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You know who the you know, you know Squat University, you ever follow that that account? Mm-mm. Oh, dude. That ai, everybody I know, ai, he trains Olympic weightlifters and real Olympians, and he’ll show you what what he’s he knows the body so well, and this is the greatest.

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I I DM him because people I respect were talking about how they they follow him. Like, I know a lot of trainers who follow him and stuff. And if you if you go to his thing, you’ll see he demonstrates how somebody will have an impingement. This is an Olympic weightlifter or something.

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For pain for two years and then he’ll give them an ai, literally an exercise and it will actually change them almost instantaneously or within a couple of days. Right? And because he really understands the body. So I had heel pain, really bad heel pain. I would wake up and I couldn’t walk.

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So it’s ai, was it plantar fasciitis? What’s going on?

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You had gout, son.

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Yeah. Right? And so Ai go to a couple of podiatrists and they make me the implants. It’s like you just need arch support and all that. I DM him. I can’t remember his name. And he, he said, you know, I’m gonna send you a video on a guy. Your shoes may be too narrow. And what’s going on?

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Do wear with those fucking Gucci shoes. No.

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Not anymore, bro.

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Dress shoes. We don’t say it.

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I’m sorry. I got my my keys on. But I did. I would wear those ai, you know, you wanna be cool. And what was happening is my big toe is being put. Every time I wear a a blazer, every time I have a blazer, I would sometimes I’d be like, I’m gonna wear a blazer and a collared shirt, and I’d walk in and you’d go, hey.

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You’re teaching substitute school? You’re a substitute teacher again? Ai be like, fuck this meh. Take it off. So much for that.

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Ai I wear a collared shirt,

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it’s you. You would wear slippery shoes. Oh, yeah. You’re wearing those weird dress shoes that are slippery.

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I try try to I try to change it up. I’m I’m like, I’m gonna dress like an adult. I wanna be like Jordan Peterson, but it

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never lasts.

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An adult. You can’t do it.

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Yeah. You gotta give up on that.

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But he told me he goes he said, I think what’s happening is your your big toe is being pushed in, and sometimes that cuts blood off to your heel. So your heel is actually after is actually getting necrosis. It’s actually dying. You’re not getting blood.

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Wait a minute. The blood has to go through Sai. The heel to get to the Yes. So there’s a lot there’s an artery. Meh.

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There’s an artery.

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It goes all the way to the end When you push here. Which is the end of the line, which is your toes.

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As a doctor, I can tell you. As you push here And

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then it turns around and goes through the heel?

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It whatever this when this happens, it blocks the blood flow. The it it blocks the the the artery that’s taking a look. Ai wore wide toe shoes like that. Within five days, all my my pain was gone.

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That’s crazy. Yeah. That makes sense, though.

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And no podiatrist knew that. He did because he studies the body because he works with Right. The top athletes. And if he doesn’t get results, he doesn’t get paid. That’s that’s that’s

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good to look at. Do podiatrist ever tell you you should do foot exercises? Well, do you go to a podiatrist and they say what you really need to do is wear barefoot shoes and pull a sled, you know, ai, you sana do foot ai. Do you use some of those ai bare like Vivo barefoot shoes and pull a sled?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You’ll get stronger.

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You’ll feel every little part of your foot, like pushing and that’s how they’re supposed to engage. You know, traditional shoes are essentially like a cast. There’s this hard thing that that that separates you from the ground. So your toes don’t articulate and push and everything is just ai from the leg into this cast and that pushes down because it’s like this big spongy hard surface that you put your fucking foot into.

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How much do you how how often like, how many are you work out, like, how long a day?

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Everyday, at least an hour.

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That’s a lot.

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I like to do a couple hours though, because I like to have like, especially strength training, I like to have long weights in between, exercises. It allows you to fully recover before you do it again.

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How heavy do you go?

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That’s, it’s all based on, Pavel Vatsal. His, it’s all from the Russians, like, how they would train kettlebells. He and his philosophy is that strength is a skill, and you should never do a skill when you’re tired. So if you’re if you’re doing, like, power cleans, ai, if I’m doing cleans and presses, I’m waiting five minutes in between each set. I’m waiting a long time. Really?

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At least. Sometimes ten.

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Sai you’re doing Olympic And I don’t care. Olympic weightlifting?

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No. No. Kettlebell stuff. Okay. So I’m cleaning and pressing ai, in the the heaviest I usually use is like 70 pounds. Every now and then Ai fuck around. I have like

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How heavy?

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I have a Bigfoot one that’s like 92. I’ll bust out some reps with the Bigfoot. But most of the ai, I’m doing 70 pounds. That’s my heavy my heaviest And

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what is that for you? Like like,

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So I do sets three sets of 10 cleans and presses.

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And by the tenth, well, how tired are you?

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Not tired at all. That’s the whole thing. The whole thing is you get all the reps that you would get if you smashed them all together. If you only took a minute off in between each set and ai through it. So you get all the strength, but what you’re not doing is you’re not operating under fatigue.

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So it’s not

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So you’re not pushing failure?

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No. And it’s not a muscular endurance. No. You’re not pushing failure at all, which is also I thought was crazy. The philosophy is it’s not the failure that gets you strong. It’s the amount of repetitions. The whole thing is the amount of repetitions. Now, if you do three sets of 10 and you do them back to back, well, you get to that third set, you might barely be able to get up that tenth rep.

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Right? Because you’re exhausted. Yeah. Because you’ve done cleans and presses, you gave yourself ai a minute rest in between sets, and then you went and did it again, and a minute rest in between the third sai, and and then you’re fucking tired as shit. Right. But if you’re waiting ten minutes in between each each set, you’re doing the same amount of work, but easily.

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Sai you you have a less of a chance of getting hurt, and your goal is not muscular endurance. Your goal when you’re doing strength training is just strength. That’s what you’re trying to do. So the whole way to get strong is not going to failure. This is their philosophy.

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You can argue it if you sana, and especially bodybuilders, I’m sure would argue with it because it’s a different thing. We’re just trying to get massive. But his thought is, if you can do, say, 20 reps to failure, don’t do that. Do 10. And then wait a long time and then do another 10.

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And it’s just as good Really? As doing 20 sets to fill. Really? Yeah. The whole thing that gets you strong is just work.

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It’s just the numbers and it allows your body to fully recover sai that you can you when you lift it up ai if you go to clean the second sai, you’re you’re fully engaged, you feel good, you feel rested, you feel strong

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Yeah.

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And then you bust out those sets and then you wait again. I wait fucking maybe ten minutes. I’m just sitting around. Ten minutes? Yeah. I watch a YouTube video, maybe I stretch, and then I get out and I do it again. So that’s those are the long days. So when I have a lot of time, that’s how I like to work out. I like to work on these long two hour chunks.

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I got small kids, bro. It’s never happening.

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Yeah. But if you get up in the morning, you can do it. If you get up before everybody else or if you do it when everybody’s asleep, you could do it. Yeah. But the the point is, if you want ai like that, that’s a way to get strong that I think you lessen your chances of injury.

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You always got a chance of injury. You’re lifting heavy things. But I don’t lift things that are that heavy and, the heaviest thing I lift really is my body. I do a lot of bodyweight squats.

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Right.

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A lot of bodyweight stuff. Pull ups, dips, chin ups. Yeah. I do a lot of stuff. L’s l chin ups, you know, where your feet are extended and you’re doing chin ups like ai. I do a lot

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of those.

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And I do those toe to bars. I do those. Like, you’re talking about those suck, but they’re really good for your abs. Yeah. I do a lot of ab stuff. I have like a a heavy core ab routine, but I’ve always kinda done that. Sai, like, really important for kicking. Like kicking, you know, people think it’s in the legs and certainly is, but a lot of it is in the torque that you generate with your core.

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That’s really where the power comes from. It comes from here. A real powerful kick is all from it’s all, and the leg ai follows through with it. But when you dig into it, if you have a weak core, there’s no way you’re gonna generate enough force to even get that leg moving correct.

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I love that we’re 58 and talking about the importance of kicking and torque. I could think that way. I could think, oh, I’m 58. Why do

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I think you did

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that way? I ai what I like. I was just working on my double leg. What are you talking about? Who are you talking

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to about? But also, more importantly, I do the work to make sure that my body can still do this at 58. If you’re, like, 58 and you’re a mailman and you’ve been drinking every night and you haven’t gone to the

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gym in six months, ai, I’m gonna go kick the bag, like, slow down. Slow down.

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Slow down. You’re gonna get hurt.

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Start at five minutes.

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Yeah. You gotta build, like, you say, oh, Rogan hangs for two minutes. Ai gonna go hang for two minutes. You first of all, you’re not. Yeah. And you’re gonna hurt yourself. Yeah. Ai, don’t. If you wanna start hanging, hang for fifteen seconds. Just do that every day for fifteen seconds.

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And then one day, you’ll be able to do 30 pretty easy. And then next thing you know, you’ll be doing a minute.

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I always say that to people. I say, don’t wait. Hey. Hey. You’re gonna get back to working out. You don’t have to do an hour. Yeah. Actually, start with ten minutes.

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Start with ten minutes. Super light. Literally meh minutes. You don’t want to do much. Yeah. Push ups Keep it fun. Sit ups, bodyweight squats, that’s it. You just

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feel feel a difference. So you feel, like, stimulated. You have energy. Mhmm. Right? Instead of, like, my my old trainer, I love him, Lou Perata. He would sai, stimulate, don’t annihilate. He was the same way. He’s 60, he’s 70 now. Same thing.

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Yeah. Because that’s the thing about being a meathead. It’s like your meatheadedness can actually get in the way of progress. Yeah. Ai, you sai actually learn better if you’re not exhausted. Right? But there’s, like, a lot of jujitsu schools that have you do shit ai ai, when I used to train at Carlson Gracie’s, the warm up was so brutal. Oh.

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Ai the time you got to actually training, that was ai a break. Shit. It was a break.

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It’s a leak. I can hold on to this guy.

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Oh. You know, I don’t have to fucking do somersaults over and over again. You would do all these different body weight things. They would do, like, duck walks and bear claw crawls, but the their idea was, hey, you should be fit enough that you could do all this shit and it’s easy, and then you start training, and then you’re fit to train.

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Right. And it’ll help your training. And there’s they’re right. They’re right. However, if you’re trying to teach people something, the worst way to teach them is when they’re exhausted.

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Sai if you can sai, like, Carl Gotch famously the he’s a famous catch wrestling guru who was a a great wrestler back in, like, God. I think it was like the fifties and sixties. Back when catch wrestling was legit, like, they would they would What

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is catch wrestling?

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It’s an American style submission wrestling that a lot of these submissions actually, you know, when you you think about,

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you should do. Is that Ken Shamrock and stuff?

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No. Ken Shamrock Ken Shamrock had a little bit of that for sure. You know, Ken Shamrock was he was a ai, you know, he did a lot of training in Japan and he did he was a leglock guy before anybody was. Like, Ken Shamrock won some of the early UFCs with heel hooks. Nobody even knew what the fuck was going on.

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And it was he was also a massive human being

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too.

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That was part of it. Like, Ken Shamrock was fucking

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jacked.

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He was so strong. But their whole thing was all about conditioning. Like, the lion’s den, they had this famous crucible they would put recruits through. Like, if you sana to train with the lion’s den

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You had to go through hell.

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You had to go through hell. They had this crazy, like, BUDS style strength and conditioning routine. Then you had to spar everybody. You had to spar the whole team, they beat the fuck out of each other. Because back in those days, nobody knew what sparring light was all about. No.

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Like, everybody, like

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Knock each other out and shit.

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Everybody beat the fuck out of each other. So it’s ai but that’s not you produce animals when you do that, but you’re not gonna produce the most technical guys for most of the people. Most of the most technical ai, what they they think of there’s two you have to compartmentalize two different things, like, toughness, like in training, if you’re doing cardio, if you’re doing hill sprints, if you’re doing, you know, live drills, there’s toughness.

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But then, there’s also you you got to really know technique and technique is the king of all.

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That’s awesome. That’s awesome.

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And when it comes to Ai. Sure. But in jujitsu, it’s even more important. Yeah. In MMA, it’s even more important because there’s more aspects to the game. And if you’re, like did you see the UFC this weekend? Did you see Oliveira versus Gamrot? No. Bro, it was a tour de force of jiu jitsu. Really?

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The moment Gamrot because Gamrot is a sick wrestler. Mataus Gamrot, he’s a nasty wrestler.

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Where is he from? Ai, Kazakhstan.

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That part of the world that you’re terrified of?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I don’t wanna miss

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The the the old country, the hills?

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Poland. Poland. There you go. Hard ass motherfucker. Beast beast of a wrestler. I mean, just a fucking animal.

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Yeah.

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He took Charles Olivera down right away and was immediately in terrible trouble. Ai, every step of the way. He’s get he was getting almost plucked and ai and this and that and and Oliveira just dominated him on the ground. Yeah. And then when it comes to stand up, well, Oliveira is better at stand up

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than him.

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Shah. So they go on the feet and Gamrot’s fucked. He’s getting lit up on the feet by Olivera. And then Olivera takes him down and strangles him, takes his back and chokes him out. So glad I love Olivera. The first guy to ever finish Gamrot. But it just showed the importance of technique. Yes. Technique finishing technique, not just holding technique and taking ai down technique, which Gamrot has a fuck load of.

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Yeah.

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But he doesn’t have the jujitsu technique that Oliver has, but he could have. He could have had that.

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Right.

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As good a wrestler as he is Yeah. If that guy just and Eddie Bravo used to say this years and years and years ago. He was ai, if these wrestlers, they all wanna study ai anti jiu jitsu. They all wanna take everybody down and have, you you know, just avoid the jujitsu, avoid the submissions. That’s what they concentrate on the most.

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He’s ai, instead of just learning all those submissions and just annihilating people, but they in their mind, they were competing against jiu jitsu.

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Oh, that’s interesting.

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Sai it’s like the wrestlers had

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a shah.

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We’re the toughest. Yes. We’re gonna get on top of that. Ai tribe

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is better than your tribe.

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100%.

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Wow.

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And Eddie was like, if they could just abandon that and fallen in love with jiu jitsu, they’d be the most dangerous people alive. Wow. Because they’re already the best. That’s so interesting. Total sense.

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Learn learning learning your enemy, ai, really learning.

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Well, just stop being on a team. Yeah. You’re you’re trying to be a fighter. If you’re an MMA fighter, stop this Ai represent Taekwondo shit. Like, no, you don’t. You’re just, you know, you have to steal.

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About that. Don’t don’t let the fact that you have an idea in your head see, we all have the we we we form these ideas. A lot of those ideas are informed by where I am emotionally to begin with. I’m defending something. Mhmm. Typically, I’m gonna be defending, how I grew up, my parents, what’s worked for me

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My city.

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All that shit. You know? Yeah. My culture. And, what happens is you get a you you start identifying with your ideas, and it’s just an idea. So be open to having your mind changed based on evidence.

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Right? Don’t be married to your ideas. Yeah. That’s for sure. But the most important thing is, like, think about Bruce Lee. Right? What did he figure out? He figured out before anybody absorb what is useful. Yeah. Take from all martial arts.

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Yes.

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You know, you don’t have to call it sai new thing anymore because Jeet Kune Do is what we’re all doing really. Mhmm. Where if you’re doing MMA, you’re doing Jeet Kune Do. You’re doing what he he’s he just said take a little bit of everything that works

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Yeah. No matter what it is. But also, like, technique, like, when you watch how they bring boxers up, like Virgil Hunter, you know, in his camp, Andre Berto and Andre Ward. Man, to to watch how they ai, the the old school boxers, I love watching them. I love watching how they train.

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Like, they will they do stuff ai like everything you do, like this guy, coach Anthony, people like that, if you watch them, everything is considered. And you work on your jab, you work on how to set that jab up. Gordon Ryan talks about that too. Like with jiu jitsu, start on the bottom.

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Start on the bottom. How’s your half guard? What’s it like? How do you get out of amount? Meh start your your your entire, repertoire, your technique at the worst part and understand that. But with with boxing, when you watch, like, footwork, it’s all footwork, man.

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It’s such a different thing. It’s ai how you step, where you punch ram. I don’t

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know ai Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford. Crawford always had his foot on the outside. He was in perfect position.

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Defense was flawless. I love watching that.

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That was a master class.

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It was

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a master class. It was a master class. Because there was one point in the fight where Terrence was pity patting him. Mhmm. So what he’ll do is he’ll pity pat you and then load up with big shots. But he was so dominant Mhmm. That he could stand in front of Canelo Alvarez, who’s one of

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the most feared boxers in history of all time.

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Of the speak. No doubt. And Terence Crawford is sitting in front

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of him going pat pat pat pat. Rip. Pat pat pat pat. Bip. Damn.

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Just it was crazy. I was like, look, and he’s pity patting him, which is almost disrespectful.

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Well, you know what you know what Alvarez Alvarez said? He goes, I couldn’t figure him out. How about that? I couldn’t figure out that’s what I think fighting is at the highest level. It’s it’s two people trying to solve. Mhmm. Like, what are these patterns you’re doing? How can I cut you off at that at before you finish that pattern?

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Ram used to people would say when they fought Duran, they would say he’s he’s reading my mind. Yeah. And they would say he’s reading my mind because he knew he could see what you were doing. He’d been there. He’s like, I know where you’re going with this.

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He’s also so ram. He might have been reading your mind. Fuck, man. He was such a savage. In his early days, like, people see Duran you see Duran, like, when he fought Davey Moore and Ai Barkley and those guys. That’s a Duran that’s thirty plus pounds over his best fighting weight. His best fighting weight was one thirty five.

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Dude, he fought and Barkley was a Ai Barkley was, I think, fought at sixty seven, maybe even bigger, And he fought him at that weight.

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Yeah. Yeah. He and he knocked him out.

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Yeah.

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Go sai if you can find Roberto Duran versus Ken Buchanan. This is when he won the lightweight tyler. When he was young and, like, super skinny, way before he fought Leonard.

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It’s crazy.

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It’s probably a black ai fight.

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Close to a human pitbull as possible.

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He was a fucking badger, dude. Yeah. Just a ferocious man with excellent technique. That’s what poverty tearing people apart.

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That’s what not having enough food literally in Panama does to you.

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Yeah. And also a long history of combat sports in Panama as well. This is like it’s not like a a unique thing to be a boxer in Panama. So you’re dealing with iron shah iron, excellent technique. Oh, it is in color.

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He was so beautiful.

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But, boy, look how shitty it looks. What year is this? ’72? It’s upscaled, so it’s This is this is Oh, it’s upscaled.

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This is what every UFO video is.

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But he was so good.

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They use this camera.

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Look how skinny he is. Wow. It’s crazy.

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Meh, bro. When you when you when you are a real boxer like that, that’s what you do. You just you don’t look muscle bound.

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Well, in his defense, I mean, he was a young man and he was but he was a lot thicker when he fought Leonard at 47. He looked a lot better.

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He’s got a Ai Callen body. That’s what I like about it.

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But he hit him low a lot as well. He was very rough ai in the in fighting occasionally he would.

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Great great in fighter.

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Probably knew where the referee was to. You know, back then there was no instant replay. Yeah. Ken Buchanan was very good too.

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You ever sai me getting a boxing lesson from Sugar Ray Leonard in in Sylvester Stallone’s house. You ever see that? I haven’t put it on Instagram.

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No. We’re watching really good boxing. I don’t know why you didn’t bring that up. Sorry.

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That that oh, he got caught there.

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Yeah. Wow. Oh, Ken Buchanan was legit.

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Damn. Wow.

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I mean, it was a crazy ai, but

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these Was this sai 35? Mhmm.

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And this was for the lightweight title. 35. It was a crazy scrap of a fight, man. Scoot ahead sai you can watch someone like the later action.

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Buchanan was something else, Oh, yeah.

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He was world champion. You know,

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I never heard of him until just now. He was

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a tough guy.

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57:33

Wow. Is he wearing a belt?

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Sure that’s how Duran won the title. I don’t think Duran was defending the title. I think Duran oh.

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Look at that shah, dude.

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Bro, when you watch these guys and you think about, like, how long it takes to get this good at boxing. Yeah. How much time had no. He wasn’t that old. No.

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I’m saying. I’m saying.

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But how much time speak, like trying to under fire figure out when to connect to someone’s face.

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No. I was saying When the

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grip to the body.

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What’s his name? Crawford said this this has been a thirty year career. He’s been fighting for thirty years. Oh, yeah. Like, if you think about

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it well, and also, Terence Crawford has been fighting smart for thirty years. He doesn’t get hit a lot.

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That’s ai,

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Which is nuts.

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That’s got Hopkins. Hopkins never got hurt.

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I mean, until he fought Joe Smith and got knocked out of the ring, he fell on his head.

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50 with a gray beard.

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Crazy.

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50 by the way, fought from 40 to 50, what nobody could beat him in a in a division that required speak.

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Mhmm.

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Never got hit. He’s a genius.

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Yeah. He’s one of the

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ultimate greatest ai, like, people talk about the greatest athletes and stuff. They never talk about what he was able to accomplish at his age in that division. That’s that has to be part of the conversation.

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Well, by the time he fought Felix Trinidad, people thought he was done already. Humble. That was I think he was 36 at the time when he knocked out Trinidad. People thought he was over. And then, you know, he just Have

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you had him on this podcast?

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Yeah. Yeah. He’s awesome.

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Yeah, man. I’m a

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huge fan of that guy.

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God. So smart.

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And, you know, his lessons from prison too. He’s ai, I’m never going back. And they they said to him when he’s leaving, we’ll see you soon. He’s like, no. No. No. Not me, bitch. And just live there. He used

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to run with

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a tennis ball apparently.

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Yeah. Yeah. That’s obsession.

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Yeah. Well, that’s how you become a Bernard Hopkins.

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That’s how you get out

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of where

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you are too. Right?

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Exactly. You

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gotta plan your escape. Exactly.

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The thing about Terrence though is ai Terrence is like an artist. Like what he did in there is ai, God, I go watch clips from that fight over and over again probably for decades. He’s a artist. Yeah. Ai, what he’s doing in there is ai he’s like not just beating you, he’s he’s beating Canelo Alvarez and kinda making him look a little silly and doing it with the highest stakes humanly possible with a guy that can break your face with one punch.

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Ai mean, his missiles are headed his way and he’s like, nope.

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I know. Nope. Oh, oh,

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oh, not here, but I’m here. Bam. He hit him so many times where Canelo had whiffed and then he would counter. I was like, god, that’s so pretty. That’s so pretty because, like, to be in the in the fire. Sai, like, there’s guys that could move real good and they were really hard to hit ai Willie Meh. You know, Willie Pep had crazy footwork. Mayweather.

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Mayweather, but stand right in front of you though.

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It’s a

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bad example. Because what I’m saying is like these guys that are hard to hit that aren’t moving. They’re right in front of you and you can’t hit them. That’s Mayweather. Ai, but there’s guys that were they’re hard to hit but they were real mobile. Ai Michael Venom Page in MMA is a great example.

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You can’t hit that dude.

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Sai beautiful.

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She’s moving in and out so fast. Like, you can’t I heard he was at the mothership.

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Yeah. He was. I was there, but I missed him.

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Sai, look at this. Boom. I mean, look at this. There’s missiles coming his way. It’s like nope.

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01:00:45

Oh my god.

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Bro, he’s so slick. Ai, every time Canelo would show

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up with a soft throw. You see him catch that body shot with his elbow? Yep. You’re not touching it.

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Catch it and then ai right back. And he did get attacked a couple ai. But even there as Canelo rushes in, he gets popped.

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You make one mistake with Canelo though, you’re you’re going out like ai.

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Oh, yeah.

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That margin is there. I’m like, this is so And and he catches it. That

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is so pretty.

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Look at that.

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He And to do that two weight classes above his the normal weight. That that is a one weight class above the previous world championship that he held. Right.

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Meanwhile, he’s one eighty seven. Do you know that?

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Yeah. Oh, no. Listen, man. When I talked to him, it was I talked to him on the podcast a couple of years ago, and he wanted this fight really bad.

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01:01:29

How thick was he?

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He was normal ai, you know, but he did it the right way. He took a long time in between fights. He did a lot of dead lifts and a lot there’s a lot of, like, strength and conditioning videos of him. We see him, like, really working hard and really, like, put on quality mass where he did it slowly over the you know, he didn’t get roided up and then just sai a bunch of muscle that’s useless.

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He did it smoothly and slowly sai he kept all of his skills, but now he had more size and now he had more strength. All skills, all speed, everything was still there. Because that’s an illusion too. People think you’re gonna get slower if you get bigger. That’s not real.

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That’s it depends you’re not gonna get unless you get really crazy body builder big, like mister Olympia big. But Evander Holyfield didn’t slow down when he moved up to heavyweight. He actually got more fit and picked up his punching power. You know, it’s like you can put on muscle and you can get stronger and still be fast and Terrence totally showed that in that fight.

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That fight was just that’s what I thought was what boxing is really all about.

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01:02:35

Yeah. I love it’s like boxing is one of the few it’s such an honest place in this crazy world where I don’t know where the fuck the truth is. Like, I don’t know how

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you get the judge’s decision.

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Yeah. Well, that’s true.

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That’s a problem. Yeah. That’s a problem with MMA too.

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It is. But that’s that even that is a little bit, like I’ve been pretty good at predicting after the fight kinda going, I think this guy ai. You know? It used to be pretty good.

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Got fucked in that fight. He was only if he didn’t win the last two rounds, he would have lost that fight.

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01:03:04

Well, Canelo sai loved him,

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you know. That’s not good. No. I mean, in terms of, like, a judge. You’re you you shouldn’t be looking at how much someone’s loved. You should be looking at of course, everybody loves Canelo.

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01:03:14

I wonder

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if I love Canelo.

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01:03:15

But I wonder if But once

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he gets into the ring, you have to judge him on his performance in the ram. Period. That’s it.

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I know, but you know human beings, you love somebody, you you already have

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I know corruption, Brian. Yeah. I know Vegas odds.

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That’s true.

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I know gambling. There’s a lot. There is. There’s a lot you have to take into consideration. A lot of these people live in Vegas. You don’t think they know fucking degenerate gamblers? Yeah. You don’t think they owe money? You don’t think maybe something’s going on? Like, a lot of these ai, like, and gals, by the way. They were connected to super shady people back in the day and decisions were fucked with.

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Do you remember that fight? Gambling odds.

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01:03:55

Yeah. What was that when Bradley remember, was

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it Tim Bradley? Tim Bradley. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That same lady, she also she she’d scored a few that were, like, what? But that was a big one. That was a big one. But that’s also you have to think of that when you see a big fucking decision like that where it’s funky. You gotta go if I was a gambler like, all you have to do is get one person. Say if you’re betting on a split decision.

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You have to see just one person in the bag. You just got one person that scores it the other way no matter what. Mhmm. And you give that person $200. And now you’re gonna make 20,000,000. That’s real. Like, people do stuff like that. At least they have in the past.

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Of

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course. Of course, they have.

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Well, let me ask you this. As you, you know, as with with AI and as as we get better and better at these videos that you can’t tell whether it’s real or not. You know, I really wonder It

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is good. Maybe just stop looking.

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That’s that’s what

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I was thinking.

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That’s what I was thinking.

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We’re wasting our fucking lives staring at

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01:04:55

our phones. That’s right. My mind that’s what my whole special is about. It’s called false gods because that be that has become that is what we’re bent over in prayer with. We’re always looking at it all. Yeah. That that dopamine scroll. Right? We’re just a nation of drug addicts.

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If there’s a drug that made you stare at your hand all day Fuck. You’d you’d avoid that drug by the plague.

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01:05:13

Literally the theme of what I wrote about because I was like, I I’m I find myself, like, I I find myself going, I’m not gonna look at my phone, and then I get sucked in. And there’s Mhmm. Fun, good things to watch, whether it’s old interviews, whether it’s snippets of this, but it’s a highlight reel, man.

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It’s like mining for gold, though, in a really shitty spot. Mhmm. Like, you’re not getting a lot

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01:05:32

of gold.

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01:05:33

No. You’re not. Every now and then, you get a little gold flakes,

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01:05:36

some funny meme.

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Yeah. Ai then I’ll send it to all my friends. But I find out the really funny ones, they make it to

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01:05:41

me anyway.

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Yeah. Like, the that’s what I really want. I really want the funny things. So So the funny things, like funny memes and shit like that, they’ll make it to me no matter what.

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You know what I’ve done? I was I was listening to a political podcast ai buddy walked by. Sai something so cool because he’s done really well in ai, and he goes he goes, oh, you’re listening to the weather again? And I was like, fuck, man. I am. I’m either listening because I want somebody to confirm my ai, or I’m listening because I maybe wanna hear something I kind of already know or it’ll be a different twist that somehow in my mind I can use as an argument against somebody I already disagree with.

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Ew. It’s all that shit. Right? Ew. I listen to I I’m fucking reading novels now. I’m not doing it anymore. I’m fucking done.

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Well, novels are cool.

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Yeah. I’m just I I my problem is I don’t think you do this at all, but I do know there are people. You can make a lot of money in the podcast space, in the influencer space if you draw strong good guy, bad guy narratives. And if you can make those narratives biblical, please, now you’re really in the money. And I I I’m always wary of that.

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I’m always wary of that reductionist kind of idea that bring I do think there are sometimes there are good guys and bad guys. I think there is good and evil. I think that’s worth a worthy conversation to have. But, man, you gotta be careful about getting sucked into those narratives because sometimes it’s not that simple.

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01:07:01

Well, it’s also what we were talking about earlier, people that aren’t good at anything in their life and their life gets captured by whatever team they’re on.

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01:07:09

Mhmm.

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Whether they’re Democrats or Republicans. Correct. And that becomes your whole identity.

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So how do you avoid it?

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Don’t be a retard. Jesus Christ. It’s a rigged game. It’s a rigged game when you meh to jump in with your dick in your hand. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. It’s dumb. Don’t be a real People always want me to say I’m a Republican or say I’m a Democrat. Like, I am I mostly think in a left way, mostly. But I also am a firm believer in discipline and human nature.

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01:07:38

Personal responsibility.

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Personal responsibility and will power. I think will power is a real thing. I’ve lived my whole life with it. I I know what it is. And so to pretend that it’s not and some people, you know, they don’t just need to get their fucking shit together. That’s not that’s not helpful for them.

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It’s not really kind and compassionate because it’s not being honest with them. By telling people they’re fine the way they are, no, you’re not. You know, you should be on a goal of constant self improvement.

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Yes.

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Doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole, you know, and that’s the other thing. People that are weak bitches, they always wanna conflate being disciplined and having personal responsibility with being an asshole. No. You can be a really nice person and still, you know, you don’t you don’t have to be a shithead just because you take care of yourself and you’re healthy.

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01:08:23

It’s ai,

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01:08:24

this is a scam. Exactly. It’s a it’s a cover that weak bitches throw out there.

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01:08:29

Than meh, but let’s calm down,

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01:08:30

you know. It’s nonsense. Yeah. It’s like people just get so ai. And the reason why they do it is because they don’t have anything else in their life. They don’t have anything that’s really important and interesting in their life. Ai? Sai they get, like, completely captured by politics.

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01:08:42

You see this now with, like, you gotta give Trump some credit for bringing peace to a part of the world where, you know, that’s been at worst since Moses had a parting of the ways with the pharaoh. Yeah.

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01:08:53

Ai it was a lot. They had to give up a lot. Right? They had to give up how many Palestinian prisoners did they

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01:08:58

have to give up? 50? Two. A lot of them are, you know

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01:09:01

Those poor Israelis that have been there for two years and what has happened to those people during that ai? But look Imagine being an Israeli prisoner and you’re in Gaza Starving. Meh they’re just starving and

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01:09:11

they’re Taking your own grave.

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01:09:12

Shelling the fuck out of that place for two years and never thinking you’re gonna get home and see your family. Fuck. Or So are they released now?

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01:09:22

Have they even released? All 20 living hostages have been released. Some of them are in really bad condition, so they don’t wanna show them to on the camera because they’ve gotta be

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01:09:31

Starving to death.

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01:09:32

Yeah. They’re right in the hospital.

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01:09:33

Well, they’re probably never gonna be the same again. No. You know, that’s that’s the thing about starving to death is, like, your organs have massive damage. Ai, I I knew this guy. Hollywood’s ai. His his dad had been captured in Vietnam and, tortured and starved, and he was never the same again physically.

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01:09:53

Even after he came back and put the weight back on, like, his his body was fucked up Yeah. From the torture, from and from the starvation.

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01:10:01

And the stress, man.

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01:10:02

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything. It’s just amazing that he survived.

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01:10:05

No ai? Living in a tunnel for two years?

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01:10:08

Well, no. Whatever whatever Trump had to do to do this, what’s fascinating is watching people’s reaction where they don’t want to reluctantly give him credit for it. Yeah. Because it’s not just this. He’s he’s negotiated multiple peace agreements between African countries that have been at war for decades. Yep.

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And this is just one more that he’s done on top of that. It’s ai people can’t get past what they they think of him in terms of the bluster or maybe the Epstein ai or this like, look, there’s no perfect person that’s gonna be president and to pretend it’s Barack Obama is crazy.

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01:10:51

Yep. If you really look at Barack Obama’s, what his legacy, what he actually brought to The United States in terms of punishment of whistleblowers, drone deaths, some fucking crazy number, like, plus 80% of the people killed by drones were innocent.

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01:11:09

Incredible.

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01:11:10

There’s a lot, but but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a great spokesman and a great representative of America because he certainly was. Because he was brilliant and articulate and just seemed calm and measured and all those things are great. But the reality is this fucking country is bought and paid for ai huge financial interests who would like us to go bomb places because they make bombs.

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01:11:37

They make weapons and those weapons cost a fuckload of money and they come up with all sorts of cute reasons why we should go fuck up Yemen.

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01:11:45

And Have you had Lindy Lee on your podcast?

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01:11:47

No. But I was gonna get to this point. But also, you have to have weapons because the rest of the world is fucked. So it’s ai you have to have this balanced perspective on this stuff. Mhmm. Like, we won’t we don’t want war. We should never want war. You should celebrate a president that his core idea is no more wars.

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01:12:06

People are like, yeah, but he bombed Iran. Right? I think he had to. I think

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01:12:10

it was ai one of the one of these things with Israel with a negotiating It

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01:12:12

was an opportunity.

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01:12:14

I’ll I’ll bomb the site. I’ll tell them to leave. Jesus Christ. Because, you know, Israel’s just bombing this shit out of Sana, and they’re ai, they don’t care about human shields, and they’re like, fuck you. You got you attacked us. It’s over. We’re gonna wipe you out. So this guy ai what he’s done is if it sticks. So here’s the thing. Does it stick? I don’t know.

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01:12:37

I mean, they’ve always they’ve come to multiple peace agreements in the past.

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01:12:41

Didn’t Hamas murder literally 32 members of of one family because they were collaborating, quote, unquote, with Israel in the street? Do you see that?

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01:12:50

I shot him in the head. Shah a few guys. I sana few one of them.

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01:12:54

Few. It was

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01:12:54

Well, I only saw one where there was a three guys they shot in front of everybody. Yeah. And they probably were. That’s the thing. The Mossad and the IDF are brilliant. Ai? The reason why they got all those pagers to those guys and then blew their dicks off Incredible. Is because they’re fucking geniuses. Geniuses. Right? The reason why they invented Pegasus.

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01:13:09

Yeah.

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01:13:09

The ability to just listen to your fucking phone, read all your text messages, get all your dick pics.

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01:13:15

That’s right.

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01:13:15

All that stuff because they’re brilliant. And the of course, they infiltrate every organization. Yeah. They that’s how they get all their information. They literally have a soldier that is so dedicated to Israel that they give their life to go pretend to be Hamas and probably even commit terror just so that they can be legit.

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01:13:33

And then that person will feed all the information to Israel.

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01:13:37

That’s right.

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01:13:38

I mean, you have to have, ai, the people who love Israel want like, I hate you know, you could be one of those people, like, I hate Zionists. I hate Zionism. I hate what they’ve done. I get it. But what they are doing is the, like, most black belt version of tribalism. The most black belt

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01:13:58

version of Well, because they’re

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01:13:59

They’re because they have to.

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01:14:00

Well, because every threat for Israel is existential. One of the things I think the strength of Israel the fact fascinating idea because when Trump made a speech at the Knesset, Bibi Netanyahu was booed by a lot of Israelis, and Trump was hailed. And the point of that is that Israel is a democracy where they’re constantly arguing with each other. There’s there’s there’s constant debate.

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01:14:24

And your your job, if you’re ai minister or whatever, is always precarious because there are people who are always gonna be critical and they’ll be Israelis. Whereas, there isn’t this sort of monolithic sort of idea like the Knesset has. But the one thing that unifies Israelis, no matter what, they’ll debate.

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01:14:40

And you wanna talk about the the war in Gaza and how it was prosecuted, you can there’s plenty of legitimate sense that you you you level the place. That’s fine. But don’t make one mistake. You fucking when when they’re threatened with their existence, you you wanna threaten the existence of Israel, they’ll unify right quick.

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01:14:57

And they’ll they’ll fucking blow up pagers. They got a thousand ways to get to you. Yeah.

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01:15:01

Because they

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have to. The point

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01:15:02

is they they do infiltrate those organizations and they do do that. However Why

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01:15:06

were you smiling just now?

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01:15:08

Because I just sent Jamie a funny meme. Oh. I’ll send one I’ll show you one that’s more offensive that we can’t show in the air but this one’s one of my favorites.

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01:15:17

Oh, I saw that. I think you sent that to me. I did.

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01:15:23

It’s so funny. Sai that’s see that keep this Israel be like we took out Hamas.

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01:15:31

Oh, shah. We should be laughing, but that’s fucking ridiculous.

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01:15:34

Bro, it’s funny.

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01:15:35

It is crazy.

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01:15:36

Listen, this is you wanna ai? You wanna live your life? You can you gotta you can’t decide what’s funny.

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01:15:41

You gotta laugh.

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01:15:41

There’s that’s funny. I’m not mocking anyone’s death and I’m I’m I think it’s a terrible thing that it happened at all. But it’s also there’s, you know, this is the Charlie Kirk question when Charlie Kirk was on Patrick Bet David. It’s like why did it take so long for them to respond? Was there a stand down order? Was there ai so people meh all conspiratorial with stuff like that.

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01:16:02

Then then things get real weird because there is this thing that we don’t wanna believe, but we do know is true that there are certain groups in this world that are very motivated to have a war. And no one wants to believe that. No one everyone wants to believe the only reason ai have a military is because we’re the just, righteous, great country of The United States Of Meh, and we don’t do anything unless we’re defending ourselves or defending some other democracy that’s being destroyed by communism or whatever.

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01:16:31

Yeah. Right? We like to think that.

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01:16:32

Yeah.

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01:16:33

That’s not totally real. And Smedley Butler figured that out in 1933 when he wrote War as a Racket. And that’s still today. The idea that in 2025 that that’s not the case anymore, that would be very naive.

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01:16:47

Right. People And

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01:16:48

it’s not just America.

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01:16:49

Right. They profit from instability.

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01:16:51

They profit and then they it also Bill Clinton literally said that BB and this is Bill Clinton’s words. BB Netanyahu wants there to be a war, so he stays in power. He said that? Bill Clinton did recently. He’s like, fuck it. I’m old.

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01:17:04

I’m a start telling the truth. Tell somebody. By the way, I love getting my dick sucked. Can I tell you that’s one of the number one reason why I became president? They all wanted to suck it. Everybody wanted to suck it once I was in that office. They did. They did. So I fucked up and I got one girl with a big mouth.

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01:17:22

She was a little young. I fucked up. I got crazy. Left the spot on her dress.

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01:17:27

But he’s he was saying this ai I guess he was just saying, look look, the Epstein files are coming out. Let me just fucking get real. Let me just get real and see.

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01:17:35

If I come to your head, what do you think your best assessment of what, Epstein who who was Epstein? Who is he working for?

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01:17:42

Well, I don’t know. Right? So I’m just guessing. Everybody wants to say he was working for the Mossad. He very well could have been. He could have been working for the CIA. He could have been a guy who was on his own but also working with them. Right? Like a guy that they used but they never fully endorsed.

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01:18:05

Like an asset?

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01:18:06

Yeah. Yeah. And a guy who could move money around. Right. He definitely

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Good at laundering money.

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The the moving money around stuff was very weird because he had money through no way that anybody could ever explain. Yeah. He had a an enormous amount of money through no way that nobody could ever explain, which, you know, if you’re a state funded, you’re funded by Israel and Israel’s funded by America and, you know, there’s also NGOs and nonprofits and there’s ways to move money around where you can give this guy money.

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Yeah.

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So he was ai, Ai, who is an economist. Right? Weinstein’s a legitimate mathematician.

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Eric?

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Yeah. So when Eric met him, his first inclination was he was a fraud. He’s a construct. Yeah. A construct.

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And did he

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tell you the whole story about the girl sitting on his lap? Sai the Epstein, while he’s meeting with the Eric Weinstein for the first tyler, has a beautiful girl sitting on his lap and he woman. I shouldn’t say girl. She was he said she was ai in her twenties. Yeah. And she’s sitting on his lap and he’s bouncing around, so her tits are juggling asking math questions. Yeah.

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Talking serious. So he was obviously nerd fishing. He was fishing for nerds. And I think he caught a lot of nerds in that net. There’s a lot of those guys that wound up going to that ai. They probably thought, this is great. We get to party.

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Nothing’s free.

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And they probably felt like they were rock stars because they get to hang out with the intellectual lead on an island with a guy who’s just a billionaire philanthropist, who’s eccentric, who just loves women. He’s a professed bachelor, and it all seemed too good to be crude.

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So true.

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Because it was. Yeah. So he was I think he was an asset whether or not it was for the Mossad strictly or Israel strictly or The United States strictly, whether it’s CIA thing, what I don’t know. But I think it was a probably a part of a blackmail comp ai effort.

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Yeah.

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Because those

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guys,

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there’s a fucking dirty secret about these people that are in congress and they party. Okay? They’re regular guys

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Yeah.

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And regular women and they’re in their thirties or forties or whatever they are and every now and then they do coke And they get drunk and they

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Human beings.

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Remember that DC madam that Yeah. Had a whole book of people and then she wound up committing suicide? She said, I’m not suicidal and

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See you.

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Yeah. Because there’s probably a lot like that. And Okay. Those kind of honeypot operations, they let these freaks know, like, hey, you’re gonna be safe with me. Charlie will take care of everything. Look, Bill Clinton used to come here. Don’t worry about it.

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Yeah. You know, we’re

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gonna go to the island.

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And that’s a big endorsement. It’s ai presidents were here, so it must be a secure area.

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Exactly. Ai we get down. We are on the island with Bill. This is fine.

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And all these girls show up and you’re ai, well, this is Christmas in July.

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Bill was really interested in string theory. He’d like to talk to you about string theory. So you’re sitting down there ai cocktails while Bill Clinton’s getting a massage from some girl who’s rubbing her tits against the back of his head while she’s massaging sana. Yeah. He’s like, that’s really interesting. Hey, I’m gonna I’m kinda tired. I’m gonna take a nap.

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Another thing about black holes

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Yeah. Yeah. And I think they all thought that it was this lovely exchange of powerful people and brilliant people, and then they were just getting dirt on all of them. Guys cheating on their wives, guys whether knowingly or unknowingly having sex with underage girls. Everybody wants to be Maybe some guys that was their thing. Sure.

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Because it seemed like with Epstein that was his thing. Yeah. Yeah.

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That’s what I think too. That’s I don’t think there’s any evidence to either. I think it’s all been I don’t think there was collected with that plea deal, and I don’t think there’s any list that’s gonna point to there’s no smoking gun.

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Sai don’t know about that.

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I think it’s all been, you know, taken care of. I I think that it’s I think you could have it on every file.

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But that’s the truth. Why did they have all those files? What they parade around with these binders? Because And shah Do you remember those photo ops that they said? Like, look, they did ai a thing. We have the the Epstein ai right here

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Right.

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And they had binders. Like, what what kind of political theater is that? If you don’t really have the Epstein ai,

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like, what is that? Theater. And what I mean by that is I think, like, if they are keeping something quiet, it’s because it’s it’s video of underage girls or it’s video of the victims who don’t want that to be out there. And that’s you can’t the justice department cannot make that public. They cannot they cannot bring that to congress. That’s all sealed for their privacy. Right?

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Well, that is the argument. But then they’re saying now that there are no files. They’re saying there’s no video. There’s ai telling

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I believe that. Don’t you?

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Ai don’t know. I think they have video. I think if you got an island and you want compromise on people, you can’t just have hearsay.

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I would say if I agree.

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I watched them fuck that girl. Let’s let’s let’s sue him. No. That’s not how it works. You have to have video, and then you have to show it to the guy like, mister Clinton. Yeah. Have a seat.

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Yeah. But I would agree with that except for Ai think if there is video, that’s somewhere in the in the archives of an intelligence agency. That’s not getting out. And I think when he had that plea deal in 2,008, he got tipped off, meh? And when the feds or whoever ai came to kinda collect all the evidence in Palm Beach, those computers weren’t there anymore. So all that shit was scrubbed.

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All that shit was taken out. So and part of a plea deal is you don’t you don’t collect evidence. There is no evidence. You you when you have a plea deal, nobody is collecting any evidence. You understand? Sai it’s not like we’re gonna collect evidence. No. No. No.

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The part of the plea deal is we are not this investigation is over. You plead. You do your time, in this jail where you have to you can go out and play golf during the day, but you have to

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come back at night. No. He no. He was under home arrest. He would only have to go there, like, a couple days a week.

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Right. He’d be in he’d have to go to the county jail in Palm Beach

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You have to check.

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During the day. Right. So what that’s what I’m saying because I think all that shah

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is right. Weekends. Then he did, like, weekends in the jail. I’m not kidding. Ai think they allowed him to work.

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Money talks, baby.

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It’s not just money talks, it’s influence. And the the guy who’s the arresting sheriff was told this guy was intelligent. Yeah. Yeah. That’s what he was told. So Ai would assume that that guy is telling the truth because he was sai sheriff. He’s got no reason to lie or whoever he was. Right.

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But Ai think there’s a lot of super powerful people that are very, very, very wealthy, and they have the ability to say whether or not things get out.

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I think I think it’s interesting how some ideas take root and and stay strong. Like, you know, sometimes you’ll just find that people will just all of a sudden everybody will start agreeing on one thing. Like that old transgender movement, ai, that just came out of nowhere in a way. I mean, it had been around. Ai had been percolating, but it gets co opted.

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And then all of a bryden, everybody is just

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Well, foreign governments for sure involved. Really? To what extent? You meh, like, bots

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and stuff, like foreign

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foreign influence? China China speak a lot of money pushing transgender ideology on America.

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Yeah. That makes sense.

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Yeah. And this is not if you’re a transgender person hearing this, it’s not to deny you. I’m just saying that what what China has done was push people further and further towards not just acceptance, but indoctrination. And, I I think they also want outrage. They want us fighting with each other about stuff. So, like, they’ll they’ll push all kinds of crazy stuff.

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Like, one of the things that is really nuts that I used to bring up and people would sai, this is ridiculous. Who believes this? It’s that pedophilia is not a crime that it’s a sexual orientation. This lady who’s running for governor of California. This crazy

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lady Porter or whatever the fuck her name is.

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Katie Porter that screams at her staff, get out of my fucking shot. She’s the worst. She looks like the way she talks. Ai, the way she talks when when the cameras are rolling and she doesn’t think anybody’s gonna see it. She’s Like, what a monster.

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She’s the worst.

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But she did one of those interviews where she was talking about pedophilia and she was talking about

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Minor attracted people? You mean MAPS?

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Yeah. See, I used to say that that they’re talking about this in certain universities, and people like that is never gonna go anywhere. No one’s gonna buy into that. This lady is running for the governor of California, and she said that. What is her exact quote on minor attracted persons or people that are?

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But she was talking about criminalizing that

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Well, do ai can I tell you what that philosophy is there? Because I’ve actually read about it. So here’s the idea. You you’re a pedophile, which means, by the way, really weird thing. You can look this up, Jamie. A lot of pedophilia pedophiles are left handed. Did you know that?

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Look out lefties. The well, the significance there is that it’s neurological. Right? There’s a there’s a there’s a condition in the brain. Right? Okay.

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So you you’re attracted to minors. It just happens to you. It’s a curse. Holy shit. Ai see a seven year old or whatever the fuck it is. Okay.

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So the idea is this. You have this affliction. You might be a you might be a person who’s otherwise pays his taxes, loves his mom, loves his friends, but

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you’re don’t act on this thing.

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Right. Now watch. Now they have this overwhelming urge the way somebody would have, say, if they’re a gambler or whatever the fuck it is. And they have no one to talk to because if they go to a therapist, the therapist has to tell the police. Right. Okay? So now you you have no one to talk to. So the idea just this is the idea is Mhmm.

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If we destigmatize pedophilia and call it a minor attractive person and and you’re allowed to talk to a therapist without having to be incarcerated, the idea would be maybe they can get help and they won’t touch kids because a professional can help them, etcetera, etcetera.

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That’s the idea. I understand the I understand the, I guess, philosophy behind that, but it’s it we get into this very dangerous territory where everything becomes medicalized and everything becomes an excuse. So all of a sudden, we find out and we meh. Sapolsky says this. Maybe in twenty years, we find out serial killers just had something wrong with their brain.

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And if we had the same lesion on our brain, we’d be the same way. Ai I you know? But it doesn’t mean you don’t put those people away because they are a danger to society.

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There’s a guy in Austin who stabbed a bunch of people at the university and I think it was in 2017 and he’s getting released. He killed a kid.

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Yeah. You can’t He

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killed a very promising musician, and, he went to a mental institution. So they they I think they said not guilty for reasons of insanity. So this guy’s been on his meh, and he hasn’t hallucinated in a couple years. So now they’re releasing him from this mental institution to some sort of a a home where they monitor them closely. No.

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Until you can actually cut out part of

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the brain. Represent Kate Porter sai about minor attracted persons. So what did she say? Actual statement context. So what does her statement?

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So she she said that she didn’t say that minor attracted persons arya pedophilia is an identity nor did she say it’s not a crime. She her actual comments have been repeatedly meh misrepresented online.

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Right. But I saw the video. Yeah. What did she say in the video? Shah never said it’s not a crime.

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No. She was saying

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that Her so Yeah. Her comments was solely focused on condemning baseless and dangerous rhetoric against l b g but why how is that LGBTQ community?

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That people were making equivalents between LGBTQ community and groomers.

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You’re right. But let’s let’s let’s listen to what she actually said. See if you can find the video of her saying it, because then we’ll get more understanding of it. Just use, the AI and oh, here’s a just see if you can find a video. This would be it. Yeah. I think that’s it. Here it is. Yeah.

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I wanted to start with, miss Robinson, if I could. Your organization recently, released a report analyzing the 500 most viewed, most influential tweets, that identified LGBTQ people as so called groomers. The groomer narrative is an age old lie to position LGBTQ plus people as a threat to kids, and it what it does is deny them access to public spaces.

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It stokes fear and can even stoke violence. Miss Robinson, according to its own hateful content policy, does Twitter allow posts calling LGBTQ people groomers?

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No. I mean, Twitter saloni with Facebook and many others have community guidelines. It’s about holding users accountable to those guidelines and acknowledging that when we use phrases and words ai rumors and pedophiles to describe people, individuals in our communities that are mothers, that are fathers, that are teachers, that are doctors, it is dangerous.

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And it’s got one purpose. It is to dehumanize us and make us feel like we are not a part of this American ai, and it has real life consequences. So we are calling on social media companies to uphold their community standards. And And we’re also calling on any American that’s seeing this play out to hold ourselves and our community members accountable. We wouldn’t accept this in our families.

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We wouldn’t accept this in our schools. There’s no reason to accept it online.

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That’s fair.

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I mean, I think you’re absolutely ai. And it’s not you know, this allegation of groomer and pedophile. It is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of of their identity.

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Okay. So that’s what it is. So it’s taken out of context. Yes. So it’s connecting it’s connecting gay people and trans people to pedophilia by calling them groomers.

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That’s why important to watch her what she actually sai. Instead of getting your fucking information in snippets from TikTok from other people who have opinions, you’re being game.

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Well, this is why a lot of people, like, hated Charlie Kirk.

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That’s right.

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The same thing. That’s right. Totally misunderstood. Sai see. Well, yes. Yes. But also could have been avoided, you know, ai not saying it the way he said it. Like, there were some certain things that he sai, like, one of them when he was talking about, Ketanji Brown Jackson, who’s sai Supreme Court justice who graduated from Harvard sana cum laude.

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Right.

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Sai, like, saying that you got what is the exact words he used? Like, you didn’t have the intellectual ability to be taken seriously. No.

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He said that DEI will put people

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Right. But he was saying

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of power. I know what he’s yeah.

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But what I’m saying is his his saying what what he said that was fucked was you took the spot from a white person. Like, Sai know what he’s doing. Ai was trying to make a point. Right.

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And

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he was trying to make a point that affirmative action, that this we should be living in a meritocracy. Right. And that we shouldn’t be having lower standards for people, but she didn’t there’s no evidence that she had any lower standards. Right. So the part of the problem with Ketanji Brown Jackson is, like, you might disagree with her. But she’s qualified. Yeah. And I disagree.

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When she when they asked her about what is a woman when she was getting confirmed, and she’s ai, I’m not a biologist. Right? But you’re a woman and you have kids. Right. So, like, cut the shit. You’re giving into an ideology now. You know what a woman is.

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A woman is a biological female human being. Yeah. Does that mean that there aren’t men who feel like they’re sai biological female human being and they have gender dysphoria? No. It doesn’t mean that. That’s true too.

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But when you ask me what a woman is, it’s a biological female human being that is responsible for every fucking life that’s on Earth. It’s ai it’s a very important distinction.

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You think?

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Yeah. Every human being on Earth came from a woman.

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Ai But this goes back to you and I talking about when you’re busy and you’re trying to you’re running a business, you’re building a brand, you’re trying to write jokes, whatever it might ai, I don’t have time to I I like it’s like the rest of us are trying to I got kids and I got bills and I got a lot of stuff I have to do. It’s it’s really hard to do everything.

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So you

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watch a snippet on TikTok and then you get an opinion of someone.

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I also don’t have time. What what do you mean by pronouns? What ai now, I’m I’m busy over here. Like, I

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Right. But you’re also not indoctrinated. Ai long time ago.

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Here’s my theory. I wanna hear what you think of this. I was thinking about this. I think part of the transgender thing, at least in colleges, and among and it’s interesting how it took root in places of higher education. I think what happened was there was currency in being a minority. There was currency in being oppressed. There’s currency in being somebody who’s marginalized and struggling.

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There’s there’s there’s something when you are not that, when you are not in those positions, there’s when you’re looking at it, somehow it got a little bit romanticized. Well, sure. Okay.

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Especially if you’re an advantaged advantaged, white kid, then you could be non binary. You have no skin in the game.

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That’s what I’m saying. You get to be a part of that commodity. To be a ai. And if you’re black, brown, indigenous, you had to go through slavery, hundreds of years of of brutal colonization. But when you’re white, you can be blonde hair blue ai, come from a great family, but you can be a minority on the same level as somebody who’s black because you feel like it.

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Because you you’re you’re feeling you have your feelings. You feel like a minority. Therefore, I don’t have to pay a price for anything.

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Oh, yeah.

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But I get to be on I get to be on the same level. I can be a bigger minority than Dave Chappelle, who’s a black man because, you know, he’s he’s he’s attacking meh. So now I can attack him because I’m the most vulnerable minority. And I think I hate to be cynical, but that’s a big driver for a lot of people.

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You know, I’m not saying that transgender people don’t exist, but do you

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know that shit? Yeah. But there’s also this cultural narrative that supporting that makes you a good person on the right side of things. Did you see the the debate? They had a debate on Ai. Vice does these weird debates and the the way they did this one was very strange. It was about, it was women, and these feminists and, and these other women that were talking about ram people and whether or not trans people are women.

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And it got super performative and here, I’ll send it to you.

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Ai wanna do this on my podcast.

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It got super performative and it was ai ram women are women. Like, that’s not an argument. Like, the way you’re saying this lady has a point about showers and locker rooms Yeah. And and competing in sports. And this is to deny that this is a point. Here, please.

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Trans women be included in feminist conversations. How about in women’s spaces? Yes. They’re women.

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Oh, boy. Yeah. I saw this.

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What’s the question? Pearl Trans women or women? So I I wanna come at this from the, position of the elite. Oh, Jesus. So so I play sai pro basketball, semi pro volleyball. So when it comes to, like, athletic spaces, I don’t think that trans women should be allowed into athletic spaces because I don’t think it’s a fair Ai think we as female athletes, we work so incredibly hard for the little opportunity there is in women’s sports.

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Would this be a

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barrier for you?

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There’s no barrier. There’s less opportunity in some industries.

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That’s what a barrier is.

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There’s less it’s not no. No. No. It’s based on

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the market.

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Okay. Hold on. Hold on, guys. Like it. So, again, we work very hard for the the little opportunity that we’re given. And the problem is, like, we can’t compete. We can’t. Like, I I’m six foot. If I go up against sai six foot guy and I play basketball with him, he’s gonna body me.

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And what happens if he’s ai be

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against you. Even even if Ai have years more of training. And so it’s like you’re taking away the little opportunity that we’re given and we all work so hard for. It will be the end of women’s

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sports. Eli. Eli.

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You tried confidence can’t make me bench what a guy ai is. I don’t think you guys are

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so hostile. She’s sharing my experience. And confidence can be in the process.

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No. She’s sharing.

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And I’d have to go. No. She’s not. She’s she’s a woman who’s had an experience. Okay.

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Kill it. Kill it.

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The the woman who is I watched that a long time ago.

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Dressed like a man with short hair sai she’s

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trans misogynist. That’s a that’s a trans meh, by the way.

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Oh, it’s a man?

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Yeah. That’s a man who’s now a woman. Yes.

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Sai that, I don’t have a problem with. Try that. You could go ahead do that. Yeah. That doesn’t bother me at all. No. Like, if trans men wanna invade men’s spaces and pee next to us with a funnel Got it. Go for it. I do not care at all. You know why? Because you can’t rape me.

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No.

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Right? That’s the real problem with trans men is that men are creeps.

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And and especially in in female prisons. Yes. Yes.

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Female bryden is a huge one. Huge one. But it’s also just female locker ram. Sai, like, some guy with his dick hanging out is pretending he’s a woman. Ai real too. There’s trans women and then there’s perverts who enter into these spaces. This is you’ve given you’ve given them a Willy Wonka golden ticket.

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It’s ai it’s like pedophiles who found a a safe haven when they could put on a the the guard the robes of a priest.

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And the crazy thing is, like, a lot of these things ai that one in LA that, the health club that was they got protested because they kicked a trans woman out of the locker room. Yeah. Multiple ai sex offender. Yeah. Multiple ai sex

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01:39:29

offender. What?

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That happens sometimes? Yeah. So someone who’s a fucking freak

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Yeah.

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Who decides, oh, I’m a woman now, and I’m just gonna let my dick shine. Right. Just polish it up in front of these ladies. Right. So you could just oil up your dick in front of, you know, some people who arya just trying to get to yoga class.

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01:39:45

I think that conversation has been won. Yeah.

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Hasn’t it? Not totally. Look at those ladies.

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That ram women that’s a while ago. That was

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Trans? Five

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years ago.

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Yeah. Trans women. Was it five years ago?

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Yeah. I think, though, here’s what here’s what I think is important.

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What’s the question?

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Just that. What are we saying?

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Yeah. It’s Katie Porter energy.

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Yeah. Ai, what?

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That’s the same energy.

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They well, they stop the conversation. Right? You gotta you gotta I don’t I’m not gonna talk to you. I’ve already made up my mind. Well That’s a religion, though. Right? That’s a religious person.

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That’s a religion. Yeah. You’re you’re going along party lines the same way you would, you know, by not eating things that are haram.

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I try to I try to, I think that if you’re gonna be like Ai

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is bad. Right? Halal.

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Ram is a is an Arabic term for for essentially against God in a ai. Like, it’s it’s forbidden. Haram, I think, means forbidden. But Ai

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sucking dicks.

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No. That’s ai I said haram.

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Is sucking dicks haram? Well,

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only if you’re if you’re smiling. I think if you’re frowning, you’re allowed to. I’m not sure how I

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You know what’s really crazy? The number one place in the world for the longest time where people got transgender surgeries was Iran. And it wasn’t because they were supportive of transgender people, it was because they were punishing gay people. So the only yeah. Yeah. Sai the only way to be a, a gay man in a gay relationship, one of you motherfuckers is gonna have to lose a dick.

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And Ai wonder if that’s true. I heard that actually and

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I wonder

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what that is it?

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Yeah. It’s true. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. They they would punish That’s that’s sai people. Horrifying

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to punish somebody that way. Yeah. Well Jesus Christ.

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I don’t know if it’s still number one, but I think that’s also the the origin of lady boys in Thailand. I think a lot of them yeah. I think it for a long time, it was illegal to be gay in Thailand.

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I saw some very Convincing.

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Well, that’s the thing. If you’re gonna be a a trans person, being a small Asian really helps.

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Not a Samoan.

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Right.

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Bad bone structure. Bad bone structure, sir.

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But ai trans people, like, the mountain is trans. It’s a real issue.

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Not gonna go well. Ai Shaw is not gonna make a a pretty woman.

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Right. Imagine him being on that volleyball team.

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We’re not gonna find we have no high heels for that.

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I mean, she she’s a woman. Yeah. Trans women are women. What’s the question?

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Yeah. Good luck. What’s the question? Good luck. What is it?

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What are you saying? You you should be studied in a museum. They should they’re gonna one day they’re gonna look at that lady and that ai, like, look at this virus that infected these people’s brains.

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Crazy.

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It’s bananas.

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But, you know, but the I think, like, with the Charlie Kirk thing when people were celebrating. Right? Horrible. Mhmm. But I I was saying, man, we better hold ourselves to if you wanna be somebody who’s let’s call I call myself a traditionalist or whatever the fuck it is. Maybe I’m a little right to center depending on the subject. Maybe I’m left in this. But I thought that was horrific.

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But you gotta hold yourself to a high fucking standard, meaning, you know, Trayvon Martin’s killer, George Zimmerman, he signs autographs at gun shows. He ai Skittles. You know, I know they had a struggle and stuff, but that was a kid who was doing no crime at all.

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Well, he was just being harassed by a guy who was playing a cop.

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And and and and that guy’s gun sold for something ai $250,000. So how do you think his family feels? How do you think people on on that side? So so don’t be a fucking hypocrite. It’s really easy to be a hypocrite.

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Right.

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And I and what Charlie Kirk was guilty of doing nothing other than taking his ideas and pitting them against all comers. That’s beautiful.

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Right. And if you disagree with those ideas, the real way to handle it is to address them.

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Beat it with a better idea.

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But the problem is most people don’t have an opportunity to communicate with him. And sai, they see these young kids communicating with him on these college campuses and him trouncing these young kids. And you see things getting, you know, combative or meh, and then you see clips.

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And so, the clips, the little tiny ones, like,

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you don’t have the intellectual capacity to be taken seriously.

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And so, you you ai because he didn’t have to say it that way, but I know what he was trying to say.

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Yeah.

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He what he should have sai is a more qualified person because in reality, the people that get discriminated the most and when it comes to particularly universities are Asians. Mhmm. So if you wanted to, like, have a a theory of white supremacy, that goes out the window when you look at standards that universities have. That’s right.

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Because the people that they discriminate against the most are Asians. Chinese. Because they do so well. Crush. They crush.

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They crush.

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Because they have old school immigrant mentality as Joey Diaz likes to say.

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See by the way, you will never see a Chinese or an Asian, but Ai, Korean, or Japanese person. You’ll never see them complain. You will never see

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them complain. Complain up the storm.

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Bob Ai different. Bobby’s different. There’s a few. But Bobby’s also hilarious.

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A few made it through the meh, they will complain up the storm.

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Bobby’s a comic, though. Bobby’s like a great comic, so it’s different. But

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It is, but I’m just joking.

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For the mo yeah. For the most part. They don’t

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all have discipline as the party. No. But they are hard working, like, as a group. They excel. They’re hard working people. And they they rarely complain and they rarely protest. So when they have to sue Harvard, it’s probably because of something real. And it turns out it was because of something real.

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And it’s not just Harvard, it’s multiple universities have higher standards that they ai to Asian people because the Asian people work harder and because they don’t want their school to be overrun by Asians. Yeah. But I say tough shit. Yeah. If you can’t compete, this is a fucking meritocracy.

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It’s

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a meritocracy.

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If it’s a merit.

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Because they did the same thing to Jews in in the fifties in Harvard. All these Jews were getting into Harvard. They’re ai, we have to have a quota. There’s gonna be overrun with Jews. They were just

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shah. Yeah. But then there’s also the reality that people that live in poor communities have way shittier schools and way less funding and way less hope and that’s bad for everybody.

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Right. Do you

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hear that? I don’t think the the solution is to let unqualified people in and this is, like, with affirmative action, pissed a lot of people off. I think the solution is find the root of the problem and pump pump a bunch of resources into cleaning up communities and making these schools better and making these communities better and coming up opening community centers and giving people a chance to get the fuck out of whatever.

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Give them some trades or skills or teach them sports or music or something that gives them hope that they can do outside of gang banging and selling crack. And the the, you know, the thing that I always point to is that that could be you. If you were born in that area, that would be you.

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That’s a human being That’s right. That’s trapped in this community. I don’t think the solution is take this guy who’s got c’s and give him a job over a guy who gets straight a’s. I think the solution is find out why this guy has c’s, where he come from, why has this place been ignored.

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If we’re real if if leaders are real leaders, why would you ignore the most disenfranchised people in the world unless you’re using them as political pawns? What you should do is try to figure out a way to make it profitable for businesses, the same way Halliburton ai, when we blew up Iraq, Halliburton came in and made a shit ton of money rebuilding things.

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Make it profitable to make these fucking communities safe again. Yeah. You have to to rebuild.

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But you have to start with telling the truth. Okay? And people don’t sana sai you we can’t even get out of the fucking gates. So if I say something like the biggest problem in some communities, by the way, certain white communities, definitely in certain black communities, the biggest problem is fatherlessness.

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If I say that, there are plenty of people that say that’s that’s we’re we’re already I’m already gonna push back because you’re already being racist. Yeah. But ai problem is if I can’t have a conversation statistic. Right. Right? Correct. Ai 70%.

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And, you know, that’s one of many problems.

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Right. But Ai had I never forgot when it comes back to Chinese stuff. I remember when so if you look what the Chinese did to Manchuria in the in the thirties. Ai Chang wrote a book about it. That was I think it was called The Rape of Nanking. She did

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all the research. The Japanese.

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The Japanese did that to the Chinese. Yeah. And and, Iris Chang ended up killing herself. And I think her mother or someone said it was because of the just the trauma of doing the research of what they did.

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Well, they had contest to see who could kill the most people in a short amount of time with their sword.

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It was the most ferocious killing ai, I think, Rwanda in history, but a concentrated number. And I said to my taekwondo teacher, I was in college, and he was Korean. And I said, why haven’t the Chinese asked for some kind of reparation? Why haven’t they sort of, like, asked for formal apologies and stuff? And he said, because in in Asian culture, Chinese, Korean culture, Japanese culture, the idea is this.

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The Chinese said, oh, well, that happened to us because we allowed it to happen. We didn’t we didn’t have our guard up. We weren’t strong and it’ll never happen again because you’re never doing that to us again. And it was really fucking wild. I was like, ram, man.

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That’s a that’s a crazy thing, but that’s that’s inherent to that culture which is radical responsibility. Ai, you’re responsible. I don’t give a fuck. Chinese people have dealt dealt with a lot of discrimination. I believe the word chink comes from, them working on the railroad.

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So the sound of the ching ching, you know, like that. Really? Yeah. I think that’s where look that up, Jamie. That’s where that that that but they’d suffered a shitload of discrimination, and they just set up shop anywhere in the worst neighborhoods, whatever it was.

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There’s always a Chinese restaurant right now probably in The Congo.

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Let’s find out. Let’s use Perplexity, which is one of our sponsors

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Thank you.

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And see if that’s where the origin of the word jank came from. Even saying that right there, sai we could just clip that out. Ai, they’re using Ai. Yeah. They’re using slurs.

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They’ve come from meh. It doesn’t

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matter. They’re using slurs. But that does make sense because

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They just they the no excuses. They just excel. You’ll you’ll learn how to play a fucking classical instrument fluently and be great in finance.

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How did they get people to work on the railroads specifically from China? Like, what was the origin of that?

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Came here. I think it was part of the gold rush, And I think, a number of them came here, on the West Coast, I think, through San Francisco.

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And how did you wind up being the predominant workforce of

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the railroads? They needed labor. They needed

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anything about the rail.

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Chink is the name of

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the So etymology Sorry

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ai I’m wrong about that.

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Complexity, what did you say? Ai chink fish butchering machine. That’s replacement. Nineteen o five, meh in Chinese laborers and fisheries and reinforced the slur’s prominence as a racist term during that period. Oh, wow. So that’s crazy. So instead okay. So the derogatory application may also stem from a resemblance to chink, meaning a narrow opening or ram, like a chink in the armor.

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But that is

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Fish butchering machine. Well, guess I was wrong.

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But the fish butchering machine was about it’s an iron it’s doing the work Right. Of the Chinese people.

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Mhmm.

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So what that’s why they call it an iron chink. It’s like a slur of the machine. It’s not like they were named after the machine. Initially applied to Chinese immigrants. It’s used broadly to target Eastern Asian people in general. So what was the origin? When did it start?

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Well, some of it.

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So 1880. Ai I’m wrong. Ai bryden increased Chinese immigration to North America during the late nineteenth century when anti Chinese sentiment was strong. Yeah. It seems like it’s just short for China. Alright. My bad. No worries.

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Sound good.

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Makes sense though.

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Sound good.

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Sounds like one of those things meh says in a barbershop.

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I don’t heard that from a Chinese person.

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So I was like, oh, that must be right. Interesting. Well, he probably believes it too. Yeah. He needs to use AI.

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Gotta use AI. But AI

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is not always ai. You know, there’s it’s only based on what’s out there. You know, there’s there’s things that are just not factually correct or there’s a problem where whatever government or agency or whatever you’re researching has pushed so much propaganda through that the standard of what you ai, standard of care or standard of education or standard of whatever is this incorrect stuff.

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Like, one of the weird things that Huberman was saying when, he he was talking to one of his colleagues who is a physician, and he said, what percentage of what is in the medical literature is incorrect? And he sai, 50%. Yeah.

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I heard that. It’s crazy.

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50 in medical school is incorrect. So you could research something like that and, you know, and it’s in the medical literature, so the AI would assume that it’s correct. But it is not correct. Yeah. Because people are full of shit.

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Right.

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And they don’t like to be corrected, and they don’t like to admit when they’re wrong, and they don’t like to go back. And they also don’t like to rewrite history books, and they don’t like to rewrite

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things. Yeah.

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They push back real hard against that stuff. Right. You know, like this idea that we’re always on this, like, constant search for truth. So, yeah. Some people and some people on our constant

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ai. Yes.

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And they make books about it. Right. And they have to lie and obfuscate because they can’t admit that they were wrong.

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I remember this guy who said, he came up with the whole theory on echinacea, which is good for colds. And then they just exhausted study about echinacea, and they were like, listen, we’ve done 25 studies. It doesn’t make a fucking dent, which I can attest to because I ai to take a shitload of it and fucking stay stay sick of shit.

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Yeah. People used to say echinacea and goldenseal.

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Ai right. And I took those two. And I used to take the shit out of those Promise me. Giving me diarrhea.

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Hippie chicks

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and kinda Fuck, man.

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It’s their idea. Yeah. You need to take echinacea. I’m like, okay.

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What are

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what are you taking?

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Somebody gave it to meh, and it was on the tail end of my cold. And I was like, I’m better. And then I was like, I’m taking this fucking fuck off.

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What is the benefit? Like, what do they say echinacea does? Is it

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It’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s it Anyway, the guy who came up with the idea goes, I’m still taking it. That was his response.

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Well, let’s find out what does what does the studies shah? Ask perplexity. What does the study show about echinacea?

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01:53:41

I saw that with seed oil. I looked shah up too. Seed oils, apparently, there’s no studies that say it’s bad for you.

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Yeah. But it’s bad for you.

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Is it?

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Yeah. It’s it’s industrial lubricant. It’s all it’s not really like, just if you know all the process that’s involved in in in making it, It’s also not nearly as healthy as olive oil, and you can get olive oil. Just use olive oil.

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Stop fucking around. I

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do. Or use beef towel. I’ll put that up there. Yeah. It’s not human food, man. It’s processed bullshit.

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Right.

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Like, that just that alone. Right. Like, olive oil is fucking super healthy for you. Really good for you. And you can use that. So why do you why are you using that bowl too? It’s cheaper.

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Yeah. Olive oil is expensive.

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It’s also it’s disgusting. Like, the way they make it, have you seen the way they make seed oils? What does it say? Immunity and co prevention. Many studies suggest echinacea may help support immune function and possibly reduce the number and severity of upper respiratory infections.

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01:54:33

Some trials some trials found a small reduction in cold risk or illness duration ai high quality reviews show little to no statistically significant benefit over placebo. That’s all we need to know. We’re good. We’re good.

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That’s it.

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You would read this.

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But, again, that’s part of science. Right? Like, you you you look at that. You do a study. You see what works.

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Right.

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And if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. You know? Right. But a lot of this stuff is complicated.

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Sure.

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You know, how you do a study, what you leave out, and

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Also, who’s funding the study?

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Who’s funding the study is huge. Whether or not Fauci approves it. Big was the study? Yeah. All that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well And then and then a lot of the stuff is ai, like, you have to have expertise in that field to even understand the research.

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Also, studies are much like corrupt boxing judges. It’s ai, what’s the purpose of this? Like, what are you trying to do? You’re trying to make a lot of money. If you’re trying to make a lot of money, you can make a study where you can take a dosage that’s preposterous and give it to a group of people and this fucks them up.

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And then you you have a great base of saying this is a dangerous drug.

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Right. Well, they did You know what I mean?

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I was watching this guy who’s on Patrick Bet David shah. There’s something that I did not know. Do you know that heroin was created? It was termed as a solution to morphine addiction?

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Wow. But it is morphine.

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But it’s just slightly different. It’s just ai methadone. Meh fucking terrible for you.

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Yeah.

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And that’s what they used to get people off

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ai heroin. I meh. I knew people who were who would go to the methadone clinic.

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We’d call them the methadoneians. We’d when those play in pool at Executive Billiards in White Plains, New York, it was right down the street from a methadone clinic. And the methadonians would get their meh heroin was originally created as supposedly non addictive substitute for morphine Wow. Intended to treat morphine addiction and serve as a cough suppressant.

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Wow.

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Now, here’s what’s really crazy. Do you know that when they were inventing this stuff, one of the things that they also came up with was acetaminophen. And acetaminophen, they didn’t want people to take because in studies, they shah that it fucks rats up.

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In their liver

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like this. Ai, well, these crazy liberals who are not they’re taking Tylenol because RFK Junior said don’t take it. So, like, fuck you. I’m taking Tylenol sana I’m pregnant. Maybe it’s okay to take Tylenol if you’re pregnant. I don’t know. But what I do know is it’s the number one source.

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Acetaminophen is the number one source of acute liver failure in America. Five hundred people die in America every year from liver failure because of taking acetaminophen. So don’t take it.

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Or or it’s or it’s or it’s a a dose thing. Right? So I know that It’s most certainly a dose thing. Pregnant and she her temperature goes way up, it can kill the baby. The baby. Right. So you get you there’s a there’s a How about there’s a dosage you take that apparently is okay. Right? So you can take a supplement.

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Yeah. I don’t know

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how you would find it out without I don’t know anyhow.

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Having another woman with the exact same body take Tylenol and not have a problem and one to take to nothing

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01:57:28

and What

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was the

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thing I asked you about? Remember the meat thing Where I talked to this guy who who said that Hold

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on a second. What is this side, Jamie? Acetaminophen has no direct chemical or historical connection with the invention or development of heroin. Yeah. No. No. That’s not what we’re saying. No. They they developed is bare. They developed acetaminophen as well. It wasn’t that it had a connection to heroin.

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It was just another thing that they developed that they didn’t wanna release because they found that it had problems.

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Did they Meh.

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But this is a guy on Patrick Bet David. Not he wasn’t saying that it was, developed as a substitute for heroin. It’s not it’s not nothing like heroin.

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Did you see what Patrick Bet David said about Porter? Did you see who? About Katie Porter or whatever tyler name is?

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No. I didn’t. It was

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so funny. He goes, I just wanna shout out to Katie Porter. She’s fantastic. He’s just ai, just keep going, man. Ai just keep talking that way. And he was just but the way he was doing it, it sounded like he was supporting her, but he was just like, just keep on going. You’re telegenic.

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This is fantastic. You’re great. He’s fucking so fun. I love that guy.

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He’s a great guy.

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I love that dude, man. He’s a great guy.

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01:58:29

I get along with him. That that is an unfortunate situation. And now, she’s ai now drowning in anxiety. The the wave of the people that are attacking her and even unjustly because of the clip that we pulled up Right. Where she was talking about people connecting groomers to just regular LGBT people or LGBT people.

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01:58:49

The, just the wave of hate that’s coming her way, especially when she yelled at her staff, get out of my fucking shah. Like, we all know that kind of person.

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01:59:00

Yeah.

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01:59:01

We all know that. We

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01:59:01

know who you are.

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01:59:02

That’s who you really are. That’s who you are.

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01:59:03

That’s the real you.

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01:59:04

We’ve seen people like that. Yeah. We know those kind of people.

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01:59:06

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, I I actually as I get older, I think, how you think and what you actually hold in your mind and your heart, even if you try to keep it a secret

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01:59:18

It comes out.

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01:59:18

It it will always come out.

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01:59:19

That’s why podcasts are so good.

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01:59:21

Fuck ai, man. It’s like, listen, your brain is a garden. You gotta de weed it. You gotta keep your brain. You gotta keep your mind on the good things. People are gonna fuck you over. You gotta you gotta you gotta forgive them or you’ll turn your own back on your future. All those little challenges. Yeah.

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01:59:36

You’re gonna have you’re gonna have hardship that goes on. You’re gonna come home. Your wife is gonna need you. You got kids. You can’t bring that shit home.

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01:59:42

That that is the discipline. That’s being a warrior. Not all this fucking other stuff. Like I’m fucking practicing my double and single. Like I have no idea why I love my son’s taking jiu jitsu sai I like to teach him.

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01:59:51

But but at the end of the day, the the challenges are keeping your mind and your heart pure. And I I I never used to speak this way, but as I get older, that’s kinda really what I ai. Because it’s gonna fucking you’re not getting away with it.

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02:00:02

Well, that’s why you should stay off social media because you’ll have enemies all day long. Ugh. And there’s a lot of people that are our age that are complete addicts. They’re just especially the left people for whatever reason. But I shouldn’t say that. I know a lot of people on the right are addicted to it too.

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02:00:16

Oh, yeah.

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02:00:17

But it’s just addicted to these arguments that people have constantly every day and calling people assholes and losers, and you’re just carrying around all that bullshit with you all day.

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02:00:25

That’s exhausting. Which is why

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02:00:26

I don’t do it. I mean, I could I could go in on fucking every person that ever wronged me or this that and said bad things about me, like, come on.

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02:00:34

I always do that. I always say, listen. I have friends who like, I’m getting hate. I’m like, listen, dude. You’re getting hate, you’re doing something right.

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02:00:41

Or you’re a cunt. Then maybe you should get your shit together.

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02:00:45

Maybe the people are ai. You’re a cunt.

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02:00:47

It’s you never know ai, you know, there’s a certain amount of criticism that you should respect. You should look at it and go, but a lot of it is straw man criticism. And the the reason why people are doing it is not really they’re not really criticizing you or what you stand for. They’re making up a thing.

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02:01:01

I like that.

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02:01:01

Pretend that you stand for that thing and then they’re attacking that.

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02:01:04

I get I get checked ai. I’ll I I no longer like, I’ll read a book and I’ll become an expert. Like, I’ll read a book, a half a book on nutrition.

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02:01:12

You’ll you’ll read a fucking headline while

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02:01:13

you’re doing it. A headline, bro. And I’m and you better sit down at my feet because I got some shit to teach you. And, I I was Why

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02:01:20

don’t you say something to Terrence Howard once that I’ll never forget. Really important thing. He said stop teaching. Stop trying to teach people. You’re not an expert. Wow. Yeah. Fuck it. And, you know, in his case, it was very personal because Terrence was talking about mathematics and physics and I understand. Yeah. It was really important for him.

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02:01:39

Yeah. Because, like, you know, we know Eric very well. Yeah. And but there’s a lot of people who think Eric’s an idiot, which is hilarious.

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02:01:45

That’s hilarious.

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02:01:46

It’s funny.

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02:01:47

Good job. Good luck with that.

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02:01:48

And smart people. There’s smart people that ai he’s an idiot and a fraud. And I’ve I’ve seen videos where smart people are tearing him apart. And I’m like, that’s interesting. Okay. That’s so uncharitable and, not necessary. And even if you have criticisms about the way he communicates, you gotta understand that the way he communicates to him is normal. Yeah. Right? Because he’s really fucking smart.

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02:02:08

He’s an inherently decent beautiful person.

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02:02:10

He’s a great guy. I love that guy. He’s a great guy. He’s a genuinely great guy and he’s, you know, not the kind of guy that goes out of his way to try to ruin other people. No. He’s not doing that at all. No. And so Ai get that there’s a there’s a currency in criticizing people.

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02:02:24

Like, you can get clickbait headlines and clickbait videos, but that all comes at a cost too because I’m never gonna really respect you. So I’m gonna think that what what you’re doing when you’re doing that ai of stuff is Sai get it. It’s because if it’s a business, you’re doing it on YouTube. It’s the best way to get clicks. But this this just Gross.

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02:02:42

Going out of the way to attack people, it’s not smart. No. Because you’re gonna be that guy forever. And then one day you’re, like, 50 or 60, and you’ve built your whole brand on being a cunt.

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02:02:54

But also that same critic out. That same critic come back to you. It comes it turns around and comes back at you. Always. When you try to do something because being good at anything is very hard. Like, I got I’m fucking dropping my speak, and I gotta write a whole new I’ve been writing all new shit. That’s fucking hard, not repeating yourself Mhmm.

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02:03:13

Trying to, like, shake up your ai. It’s really hard. It it and you go through some days where you’re, like, I’m I’m never gonna write a joke again.

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02:03:19

Right. And if somebody sees you on one of those days where you’re eating dick, you’re, like, oh meh god. He’s terrible. Right. Okay. Well, I’ve seen people say that about Louis. Like a friend of mine saw Louis in the the sellers, like, oh, he sucked. I go, no. He doesn’t suck, dude.

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02:03:32

He’s got new bits that are brand new and if you see an hour from or a year from now, that hour will be a polished masterpiece.

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02:03:40

Oh, dear.

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02:03:41

But it doesn’t come out of the box perfect. And the only way to ever develop it is you have to have the courage to trot these ideas out and try to find where the funny is in them. And sometimes the funny isn’t there, and you think it is, and you go looking around, you go, alright, folks. There’s no other way.

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02:03:55

There’s no other way. You’ve got a skill

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02:03:57

as a comedian to navigate those waters, but,

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02:04:00

you know I did an interview on a radio thing, and this fucking guy who was he he had just started doing stand up was criticizing the quote unquote that right wing hack comedian named Jim Brewer. And I went, I turned that interview, I was like, are you calling Jim fucking Brewer a hack? Do you know how funny that motherfucker is?

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02:04:21

You know how hard

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02:04:22

That’s so funny.

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02:04:22

You know how hard it is to be to do what that dude does? Like, shut the fuck up. You’ve never done you have ten minutes of material. Shut up. That guy’s a that guy kills me. You ever see his routine about the fucking when his cat got in a got the shit kicked out of him by a raccoon? Oh, dude. Who’s your mother now?

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02:04:43

Dude, he just got this shit kicked.

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02:04:45

He’s so physical.

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02:04:46

He’s so funny.

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02:04:46

Physically funny. Oh ai god. And he’s been really funny since I meh him. Yeah.

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02:04:49

He’s never not. I met him in,

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02:04:50

like, ’91 or ’92.

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02:04:52

Funny then. He was great. Goat boy?

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02:04:54

He was phenomenal. And he’s a great guy too. Great guy. Great guy. Ai it’s just, like, people are always trying to build themselves up by taking other people down. And it’s historic. It’s been going forever. It’s always the case. And it’s normal. Like, when you’re young and you’re coming up and you see people that are doing better than you, like, fuck that guy. It’s normal. But it’s not beneficial.

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02:05:15

It’s not good for you.

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02:05:16

You you can use it to inspire you. Yeah. That’s what I do.

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02:05:19

I’ve done what they do. I’ve hated on people. I I definitely did when I was younger. It’s just not smart. It’s not it’s not a good strategy for life.

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02:05:26

That’ll help you.

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02:05:27

It’s, you know, you you your identity gets too wrapped up in conflict and it’s just ai super unhealthy.

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02:05:33

Well, we have people our age who are still doing that shit.

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02:05:36

Of course. Don’t Comics. Mark Meh.

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02:05:38

Don’t say it. I mean, I don’t get it. You know, I’m like, I I don’t know. Ai

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02:05:42

I get it. He’s sad. He’s sad. He wants other people to hurt. That’s, what it is.

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02:05:48

He’s just not charitable. It’s it’s

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02:05:50

Well, it’s also he’s pathologically jealous. Like, he’s been path he’s, like, literally mentally ill. Like, do you understand? Mark, when he first arya, when he was just first coming up, was friends with Mitch Hedberg and then Mitch Hedberg hit and he couldn’t be friends with him anymore.

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02:06:04

Really? Yep. Stop being his friend. Same thing with Louis CK. Louis CK and him were tight. Louis blew up, Mark didn’t.

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02:06:11

He he had to fucking hate him and it turned on him. Talked shit about him, talked shit about him openly. And then he became successful. And the years where Mark was successful were the best years of Mark. Because Mark was fun.

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02:06:25

Mhmm. Like,

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02:06:26

I’ve had ups and downs with Mark. I’ve gone through this with him, like, three or four different ai, where we he gets upset at meh, and then we talk, and then arya we good? We’re good. Like, he likes to do that. He likes to talk shit about you, and then you confront him, and he says you’re right.

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02:06:41

And with me, my my relationship with him was really complicated because when I was an open tyler, I was 21 years old, and I was just starting out. Mark gave me a compliment once that really helped me. He came up to me meh he goes, hey, sai, you’re really funny. Just keep doing what you’re doing.

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02:06:55

Don’t tyler don’t listen to anybody else. Just keep doing what you’re doing. I was like, wow. Thank you.

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02:06:59

That’s his best side. That’s the good side.

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02:07:00

And it’s not all bad. No. And he was a young guy back then. Right? So he was just being cool. And then over time, obviously, I became more famous than him and more successful than him. And he does not like that. He fucking hates that. And the only time we were cool was when Mark was number one.

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02:07:18

So Mark, the podcast took off and you gotta realize it took off when he was deep into his forties. Right? And it was the number one podcast in the country. And he was on Rolling Stone magazine and, you know, he had his own show on IFC, the Meh show, and he was fucking great.

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02:07:34

He was cool to hang with. He was fun. Because he didn’t have to compare himself to anybody anymore because he’s he was a success. Like, he could look at his own success.

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02:07:43

He was

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02:07:43

doing a television show. He had his podcast. Everything was great. And we were cool. Like, we were friends. Like, I’d sai him, I’d give him a hug, I said, what’s going on? We would talk. We’re, like, we’re friendly at the store. We never hung out off, you know, off-site, but we were friendly. Like, we had pushed all the beef aside and even did my podcast. We had a great time.

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02:08:03

And then, I started getting more successful. And then my podcast passed his, then my podcast became number one and then the Spotify deal and that’s when he started talking shit about me. So he started talking shit about me long before all this Trump stuff. This Trump stuff is just the most recent iteration of this bizarre thing that he does with people.

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02:08:28

And the first thing was he ai that I was an asshole, like, just because the podcast took off. But it was it was not a big deal. It was ai I’d heard people say that he was saying things. But then after the Spotify deal, the Spotify deal was a real problem. And that’s when he started coming after me. And it was about vaccines. Ai, so he was talking about me on stage about vaccines.

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02:08:54

It’s ai, by the way, everything I said was correct. The people that I had on my podcast were, like, Robert Malone who got ai. He has nine patents in the creation of sana technology.

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02:09:06

He’s a he’s a vaccinologist. He’s an immunologist.

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02:09:08

He took the vaccine himself and had a horrible adverse event, which is when he started becoming critical of it. Right. And then he started doing the science and looking into the papers and the research, and he was trying to sound the alarm. He was right. He was right. All these doctor Pierre Kory, he was right. Peter McCullough is the most published doctor in human history in his particular field of expertise.

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02:09:32

Which is which is Which is immunology.

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02:09:33

It’s it’s kidney disease. I I don’t Ai don’t exactly But he’s a scientist. Very well qualified. And accredited scientist. So these are the people that I had on that were talking about this stuff. It had nothing to do with that, with that Meh was upset at. It had to do with Chelsea.

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02:09:54

I think though it’s another thing. I think some people have a very traumatic experience when they’re younger. Could be high school. And you represent an avatar of that experience. So we just spent I don’t know. The first fucking third of this podcast was about fighting, working out and all that stuff. There’s a physicality there.

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02:10:13

You arya physical guy. You’re physically imposing. You can choke somebody unconscious, punch them in the face, blah shah blah. That that that meathead persona, that kind of, like, forward tilt, that yang energy, that very hyper male energy, Some people have a very bad experience with that kind of energy when they’re young.

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02:10:35

They might be I understand,

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02:10:37

but you have to judge people and then you can’t draw man people and pretend that

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02:10:40

they’re mean.

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02:10:42

He likes to pretend that I’m like a mean job.

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02:10:43

But that’s what I’m saying is that you’ve gotta, like, as an adult tyler a while, you have to come to terms with whatever emotional reaction you have to whatever this avatar is that you’ve put all this stuff on, which we all do. I think you’ve gotta take your tyler after a while, you gotta go, meh.

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02:10:57

This is where I gotta let go of all that stuff, and I gotta take the person at face value.

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02:11:01

Yeah. But this is a you’re talking about introspection. He doesn’t have that. That’s not him. He he does when confronted, and he’ll he’ll ai. Like, that’s his whole thing. Are we good? We good? And then you’d hug it out with people. He also lies. Like one of the things he lied about is he did a podcast with, Howie Mandel and Howie Mandel asked him, if he had problems with comedians. Ai, no.

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02:11:23

I don’t have any problems with any comedians. I’ve never had any problems with comedians. Like, what are you talking about? About? He’s had a problem with every single comedian that’s more successful than him.

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02:11:30

Bill Burr, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, me, Tony Hinchcliffe, everybody that passes him, all of a sudden he and he talks about them on stage. And the Theo thing really drove me nuts because that sent Theo into a real spiral.

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02:11:43

Did it?

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02:11:44

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Theo went into a spiral and that was a big part of him getting attacked was Marin talking about him on a speak, saying that he’d have Hitler on his podcast. Well, why is he saying that? Does he think that’s true? Does he think it’s does he think that Theo has anybody on his fucking show, including Bernie Sanders.

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02:12:03

He’s learning.

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02:12:04

He’s taught to learn.

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02:12:05

He’ll talk to people and, you know, he will talk to anybody on his podcast. That’s not what the thing is. The thing is that Marin’s podcast, which was number one, isn’t even in the top 100 anymore. I don’t even think it’s in the top 200. It went away. And it went away not because he did anything. He didn’t get arrested. There was no scandal. People just stopped being interested in it.

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02:12:29

And I think that hurts the most. And Why

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02:12:32

did they stop being interested?

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02:12:33

It’s not good. It appears a part of it. Like, the conversations that he has are fine. But the beginning of the podcast is ai, like, self indulgent rants about life and him doing things. And there’s a thread dedicated on, like, Reddit where people fast forward to the ai, like, they give you the time stamp of when he’s done ranting.

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02:12:55

Sai you could just get to the interview. Mhmm. Because nobody wants to hear it. Ai, it’s like, it’s an inside, you know, joke. But it just that’s the reality is it’s ai Theo passed him, like, rocketed past him, and now he has, like, the number two or number three podcast in the world.

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02:13:14

Sometimes there’s a there’s a thing that people do when you’re older, where you say that person passed me and then you criticize the culture that got them passed. Yeah. Right?

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02:13:22

Well, the thing is the thing is that Meh never developed an audience for his comedy and he always felt ai he deserved it. And that’s what drove him the most nuts. He always felt like he deserved it. But it’s like you deserve what you get. You know what he has a record for? One of those ticket things, whether it’s Ticketmaster or whatever one. Number one for selling single seats.

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02:13:45

That’s interesting.

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02:13:46

Just wondering.

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02:13:47

Oh, that’s really interesting. So People with no friends. That’s interesting. Yeah. Really.

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02:13:51

Mhmm. Fucked. Sad people. Ai people that identify with the way he behaves in in their I always

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02:13:56

look at it this way, like, I you know, somebody were doing his thing and Ryan Reynolds, people talking about how he gets paid or he gets ai. And I was like, look, meh, I don’t know about that. I just know that I tried really, really hard to be Ryan Reynolds. I did. I tried my hardest.

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02:14:11

I was in acting class. I went on every fucking audition. I got I did okay. I was on a couple sitcoms and some movies and stuff. But for whatever reason, I didn’t I’m not Ryan Reynolds. You know why?

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02:14:23

I’m just in probably in some ways, hate to say it, I’m I think I’m really good at comedy, but maybe I’m just not as good ram maybe just for whatever reason, I didn’t do it. Maybe he was smarter in this other arya. But either way

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02:14:33

Well, the reality is, man, there can only be, like, a couple of

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02:14:36

run models. But I’m not gonna hate on the guy because

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02:14:38

of it. Thousands and thousands and thousands of people that are ai.

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02:14:42

I did. I tried hard, man.

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02:14:44

But sai, that’s the difference between that and comedy. See, comedy is a much more of Meh tyler much more of America talker

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02:14:50

Very much.

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02:14:51

If you’re funny, you can get an audience. Yeah. And there’s there’s Jim Brewer’s audience, and then there’s Nate Bargazzi’s audience, and there’s Kevin Hart’s audience, and there everyone can you can get an audience. Like, you just have to put your work out there and people resonate with your work. And you might not like these guys.

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02:15:09

You might say this guy sucks or that guy sucks and I like this guy. No. No. No. It’s fine.

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02:15:14

You’re allowed to have personal taste just like this personal taste in music that I don’t like. But the proof is proof is in the pudding. Do you people come to see you? Do do you put asses in seats sai they enjoy the time? Or is it an angry bomb where you’re on stage ranting about other comedians? Well, that’s Meh. And he does it all the time.

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02:15:34

Tim Dillon was just saying he was doing that in LA the other day. He was ranting about the comedians at the at the Riyadh Comedy Festival, which is all, you know, like legitimate area of criticism, if you can make it funny. Like, because, you know, you’re working for the Saudi government and they’ve definitely done some stuff that’s fucking horrible.

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02:15:53

But the the hope this the root of it all is not real. It’s not that he cares so much that he wants everyone to do the right thing. That’s not it. It’s he’s upset that all these people are getting attention. He’s upset that all these it’s very childish.

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02:16:08

And but he’ll make it look like, you know, he’s the righteous side, you know, the left, the progressives. He’s the voice now, and he’s gonna fucking you know, we got work to do. We gotta get these fascists out. No. It’s but it’s about him getting more attention.

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02:16:22

That’s what it ultimately is all about. And that’s unfortunate. And, I’m not mad at him. And if I saw him and I talked to him, we were cool. I’d give him a hug.

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02:16:32

You’re just But he wants to pretend. Just honest. Right. But he wants

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02:16:35

to pretend that everybody else is bad and meh. And this is this is, like, the reason why they have they’re successful or that they’re hacks.

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02:16:43

Or that the culture is corrupt and hacks are at.

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02:16:45

Some dumb shit ai, you know, you could stop making fun of trans people. They can’t get health care. That’s one of the things he said. Like, what are you talking about that can’t get health care? Health care is care that makes you healthy. The law that got passed was stopping chemical castration drugs and surgery for underage children that are confused.

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02:17:06

And you know how many kids are

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02:17:07

ai go by the way. These things that they call, like, hormone

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02:17:12

Cross x-ray. You can Or puberty blockers.

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02:17:14

But hold on. Hormone blockers, that’s not what they originally were used for. We know that, like, medicine can be used off label. Right? And the idea of that initially was there was only, like, you know, a 100 different kinds of medicine and you could figure out what would work and you could prescribe it for different things and off label uses.

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02:17:31

The stuff that they’re using, what they’re calling puberty blockers castration. It’s the same drugs. Fucking unbelievable. It’s chemical castration drugs, and you’re giving it to children. Yeah.

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02:17:49

And then there’s this narrative that it can be reversible. No. It’s not. No. No. You go through you’re gonna have a ai penis for the rest of your life.

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02:17:55

You’re gonna have fucked up vocal cords. You meh your your whole body

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02:17:58

is going

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02:17:59

density sucks. Strokes. There’s a lot of, like, weird fucking appropriate side effects.

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02:18:04

It’s so fucking evil to me.

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02:18:05

Right. So his straw meh is transgender people can’t you you should stop talking about it, man. They can’t get medical care. They can’t get health care. You happy?

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02:18:13

Like Yeah.

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02:18:14

That has never been

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02:18:15

the case. Well, he’s saying that that’s what you’re saying. That the problem is just He’s just trying to

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02:18:18

get you to limit the amount of things that you’re talking about that people wanna hear.

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02:18:22

Right.

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02:18:22

That’s really what he’s doing. It’s like a really selfish, self oriented fucking thing. It’s not righteous. That’s what’s the crazy thing about it. And people are gonna find that out, man. They’re gonna dig into you. They’re gonna listen to the things you say and what the way you behave and the things you’ve talked about.

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02:18:40

Saying, you know, like, that the whole reason why everybody voted for Trump is because they wanted to say the word retard. And that’s a straw man. Like, it was a really funny bit. I get it. It’s okay. It’s not that good a bit. But it’s a straw man. That’s not true.

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02:18:52

What everybody wanted was they realized there was a crazy thing happening where the border was wide open. Right. And twenty million people got in in four years that weren’t supposed to be here. Right. But does that mean that you support everything that they’re doing now?

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02:19:05

Were they kicking people out? No. No. This this this storming into the fucking Home Depot and arresting people? No. No. That’s not cool either.

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02:19:13

The military in the street, I think, is a dangerous precedent. But also, why are you allowing people to just riot on the streets and burn down buildings? Sai Yeah.

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02:19:22

Why do you have to lock up toothpaste in Washington, DC? Toothpaste. You gotta lock it up.

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02:19:26

San Francisco is well. Good? Oh, it’s ai. There’s there’s there’s a balance to be had here and there’s a conversation to be had, but it’s not in straw man arguments where where you’re saying that the only reason why people want this is they wanted to say this. These comedians are just voting for fascism.

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02:19:42

No. I want this is why with my podcast, like, I was I got to a point where I was having I was interviewing people. Right? It was it was great. But the problem is Ai I don’t I after a while for me, like, there are too many people like you who do it really well. I would love, and I don’t know if I’ll be I think I talked to you about this, just to get people on two different sides to have a discussion, Just to find out, like, just to kind of get to a so in other words, can we just try to approach this as solving a problem?

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02:20:09

We don’t ai

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to be the right two people.

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It’s hard to get them, though. But I that’s what I’m trying

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02:20:13

to get them, but it also has to be two people that arya actually just trying to state their points. You know, it’s a really good example that recently, Coleman Hughes It was great. Had he’s great. He had Dave Smith on his podcast. Sai it. Very good conversation.

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02:20:27

Super balanced, intelligent, calm level, especially from Coleman. Coleman’s so good. He’s a killer. Wow. He’s so good.

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02:20:36

And it

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was, you know, one of the rare times where I think Dave was kinda stomped in certain situations. Shah. Okay. It’s great.

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02:20:42

Oh, Dave probably learned a lot. That’s, you know, stays great. Ram.

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02:20:45

Mean, he had a very interesting point about the Wesley Clark thing.

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Do you

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see that?

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02:20:48

I did.

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Yeah. But, like, he never saw the memo. Well, he was told what was in the memo. He’s ai, you understand that if you’re writing a history book, that wouldn’t even be

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02:20:56

you couldn’t even put that in

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the book. Which is it’s accurate. It’s absolutely accurate. It’s accurate. It doesn’t mean that they didn’t actually do that though. And it seems like that’s that is exactly what happened, which is, like, kind of convenient.

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02:21:08

Well, he addressed that too. But I I know what you’re saying. It’s like No. Again

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02:21:11

But it’s also, like, a brilliant debate.

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02:21:14

Yes.

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02:21:14

And never never got ai You learn things from that. You’re not gonna see Marc Meh in

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02:21:18

one of those. And that’s the bummer. It’s ai, if you if you have these ideas you’re standing on and you’re vocal with them, right, then you should be willing to put them on the table and see how they war against another idea. And you also should entertain

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02:21:35

the other person’s perspective. The problem is, like, Dave has been saying it one way for the longest time. And when Coleman said that, the I think the correct response is, that is true. Yeah. You got a really good point.

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02:21:46

You won.

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You’re right. However, no. You didn’t really win because they did do exactly what was in that memo. I I mean, they did overthrow every single country except for Iran.

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02:21:56

No. No. No. Because he said, in fact, we did it with a number of other regimes, but there were, I think, three or four countries in that memo that they we haven’t done that with.

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02:22:03

Right. But they’ve been going after those specifically. And those the lot of them did did did get toppled.

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02:22:09

This was Rumsfeld.

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But it’s also yeah. And it is interesting that that is a strategy that The United States employs and that we do topple regimes and that we, you know, we do. We have in the past. We have been involved in that. And to deny that, I think, is kinda crazy. Right.

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02:22:23

And we also really do a good job of taking advantage of opportunities. And when nine eleven happened, that’s when they passed through the Patriot Act. Like, that’s when they they started taking

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02:22:33

you to birth of the surveillance state,

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02:22:35

sir. Exactly.

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02:22:35

They know they know everything about you. I talk about this in specialists. Like, they know a woman’s pregnant based on her migratory shopping patterns, sir. Interesting. Okay? So they can the the the based on your migratory shopping pattern, they can pick up that you’re that you are with child.

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02:22:50

And and you don’t before she knows it. Before she knows it.

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02:22:53

That’s crazy.

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02:22:53

Okay? That’s what’s crazy. They have they have cameras with full gait recognition. So the way you gait changes when you’re pregnant? How you walk is in the cloud. There that is a signature for you. Okay? Forget your biometrics. Cover your face all you want. They have cameras that can pick up how you walk.

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02:23:12

The mathematics of how you walk is just like your fingerprint. They also have a laser that can shoot into your heart into your body and pick up your heart signature, sir. So good luck hiding from the state. It’s here and that’s it. Your privacy is shah.

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02:23:27

One of the things that they were saying when it came to the abortion, debate that I thought was very interesting that I hadn’t considered is that they were, they were talking about prosecuting women that left a state where abortion was illegal Yeah. And went to a state where it was legal and then returned. Yeah. And that they were gonna do this based on apps.

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So women have apps where they track their ovulation and that they could get the data from these apps. I think it’s outrageous. And then it’s outrageous.

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Yeah.

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And it’s also that’s where it gets really creepy because it’s a lot of Christian

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02:24:03

meh hinges on murder. Right? So so if you if you have somebody came across state lines and murdered somebody, you could do that. That’s that’s absolutely legitimate. When you define abortion as murder, okay, then then that is there is a there are strong legal grounds to establish that precedent.

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02:24:23

Sure. But you’re also not supposed to be prosecuting, sai, if you’re in Texas, you’re not supposed to be prosecuting someone for the actions they did in Oklahoma.

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02:24:32

Unless it’s murder. That’s a federal crime.

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02:24:34

Okay. Sai they if they approach it that way.

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02:24:36

Yes. Yeah. So you you you you certainly were a republic, but and and so there are statutory laws, but they do not supersede, in many cases, federal law if it’s something like murder. That’s a capital crime.

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02:24:47

The problem is you’re getting giving men the ability to track women’s behavior in a way that I think It’s

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02:24:52

a it’s a huge problem ai.

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02:24:54

Fucking creepy. Yeah. Also, when there’s a significant portion of this country that believes women should have access to abortions And for you to say no and it’s their body, that that gets slippery.

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02:25:05

This is where this is where we get into

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02:25:07

It gets real slippery and that gets into the more of a libertarian area, you know, where I think that’s probably where I land a lot of the time.

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02:25:15

Mhmm. Now you’re sounding like a leftist slash libertarian. It’s so weird. Right?

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02:25:20

I’m very happy. When it comes to live and let live and accepting people for whatever it is, whether they’re gay or whether ram other country, ai, I’m open to everybody. I want you to just be cool. Be nice and be cool and try to do a good thing with your life and enjoy yourself and not harm others.

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02:25:37

When you’re running when you’re when you’re so when you have policy, the problem is we get into the weeds. Technology creates problems that are major because typically, I think with Roe v Wade, the abortion was legal until the the fetus was viable on its own. Okay? So you once the fetus was if if it could be the cutoff thing was without the mother, if it needs the mother, then it’s still, ai know, you can still Part of the mother.

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02:26:03

Now if the baby’s eight months, no. But when what happens when technology can keep a six week fetus alive and bring it to term? Now you’re dealing with now you can’t make an argument.

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02:26:19

Case right now.

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02:26:20

But it it will be. Technology is good. So so now the now the problem becomes, now what do you do? Now we have to redefine. So the the people who believe in abortion or a woman’s right to choose have to redefine what it is. And the only way to get around that is to say that that a woman can make that choice until the baby’s born. Yeah.

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02:26:40

And that’s where you get politicians sai, you believe that babies should be killed up until they’re about up until tyler woman’s crowning. Then we get into this whole thing and then, you know.

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02:26:48

Yeah. And Well, it it also is a uniquely human issue and that it does get blurry. Ai, as much as I sai, I’m 100%, I think a woman, it’s her choice, especially at early stages. You know, if someone is pregnant for four weeks, that’s your choice. Ai I don’t think anybody should be stepping in.

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02:27:09

However, everybody with any kind of a heart or a everybody loves babies. When you get to, like, eight months or seven months, you’re ai, woah. That is a full on baby

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02:27:21

inside of

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you, which is and then when you see what they do when they do have late term abortions, you could see the body parts. Jesus. Like, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen it. Unfortunately, I have. Ai can’t

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02:27:31

watch that shit.

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02:27:31

I I’ve watched some of those videos. And and then you’ve also seen people who were working for Planned Parenthood who arya callously talking about sorting through these parts.

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02:27:43

I guess you have to be that way, don’t you? I guess. I mean, there’s no other way to do it.

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02:27:47

I guess, but there’s some of those Project Veritas type videos where, you know, people ai behind the scenes. Darkness meh. It’s so dark. But they don’t think there’s anything wrong because they think that abortion should be legal and abortion is a leftist position and a woman should have a right to choose.

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02:28:04

So in their ai, this is what’s happening and ai here’s a leg and here’s a heart and here’s a head.

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02:28:08

This is where ai, you have to be super inflexible. Right? You gotta be like, well, this is what I believe no matter what. Yeah. I just can’t And I can’t live that way. No. Fuck that.

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02:28:17

You can’t be if you’re not grossed out by a little baby hand that just got sucked out of a woman’s vagina with a vacuum cleaner, that’s kind of crazy.

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02:28:24

Bob Geldof said something that was so interesting. You meh Bob Geldof? Sure. Yeah.

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02:28:29

We are the world.

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02:28:29

And he was talking about Gaza. Right? And you can get into a really you can get into a debate about Gaza. I don’t I leave that shit alone ai I’m not gonna get into that because you you can talk about Israel turned it into the surface of the moon. There’s there’s plenty of criticism in that direction. You can talk about what they did in October 7 and all that stuff. But he said something wild.

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02:28:48

He said, look, there are a lot of kids who are starving or at least malnourished or really hungry, whatever it might be. And he said something. He asked a question I thought was great. You could get into the debate. He said, but, hey, who are we as human beings, as people? Who are we?

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02:29:04

Like, there’s gotta be something we can do. There’s gotta be something we can do, whether it’s Israel, whether it’s Palestinians, whether to at least get that kid fed, at least to stop that ai of stuff. And that’s it. That Ai think sometimes there’s a question to ask. You gotta throw all your ideology out the window.

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02:29:20

You gotta throw all your politics out the window and go, hold on. I’m this is called the stop everything button. I’m gonna push it right now. I’m just gonna stop everything, and, we gotta stop and make sure those kids are fed.

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02:29:29

Fuck off. Unless your ideology has gotten so dark that you think of those kids as an other. You don’t think of those kids as kids. Those kids are orcs.

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02:29:39

Yeah. That’s what the Vedanta always says that the the the seeing nothing, no other is is the way. Ultimately, realizing that you and that person, back to what you said, you’d be that person too Yeah. Under those circumstances.

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02:29:52

But then there’s the cold hard reality of environment and culture. Right? If if you grow up in this radical

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02:30:00

There are good ideas and bad ideas. Let’s not get it twisted. It doesn’t mean you’re an intellectual and say everything is everything. Okay? We’re not being relativists here.

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02:30:07

What I’m saying is if you live in a part of the world that’s fucked, you’re gonna be fucked. That’s right. You’re gonna be fucked.

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02:30:12

Which is then we have to go, hold on. There is a there is a better way and there is a there’s a worse way. When you lose that side of that, like, you there’s there is a better way. There’s good, there’s evil, there’s better, there’s worse, and that takes some time to understand the meaningful difference.

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02:30:29

Have you

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02:30:30

ever talked to Evan Hafer about his time in Afghanistan? Yes. Some of the things that he told meh, the things that he saw and the things that he, like, personally witnessed

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02:30:38

Yes.

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02:30:38

He’s ai, you really get this feeling like you just you just can’t.

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02:30:42

Yeah, man.

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You can’t you can’t deal with this. No. Ai and this is my thought on that. It’s ai, I wonder if that’s what life was like all over the world thousands and thousands of years ago. I wonder if, like, kind nice people were like an aberration. And if most of the war, like, what we’re seeing in places like Afghanistan, these warlord driven mountain communities of people that are like, I wonder if that’s, like, how most of human history was.

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02:31:09

I believe it was.

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02:31:10

I believe it was.

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02:31:11

There was a you had the you had the that the Daryl Cooper said the greatest thing about the Middle East conflict. He sai it’s a part of the world where people have to give up who they could be for who they have to be. Oh. And that’s a beautiful way to put it because because that is that is that is what we are so man, as Americans, especially a certain kind of American, we’re so lucky because I get to be who I get to try to be who I wanna be.

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02:31:34

Mhmm. I don’t have to settle for who I have to be. Yeah. I don’t have to watch my kids go hungry and and do some bad shit because if my kids couldn’t get water, I’m gonna be slitting some throats. But I never had to face that stuff. I never had to embrace the angels of my darker nature just to survive.

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02:31:49

Yeah.

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02:31:50

And it’s a luxury, man.

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02:31:51

And you also never had to like, those people never get to stray from that path because they’re they’re in that path from the time they’re a child. And if they make it to be 30 and they’re living like that, it’s a miracle.

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02:32:01

If you lose an election in a lot of countries, you die. How you die? You don’t live to another see another day.

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02:32:06

How about Mexico? We were talking about the amount of assassinations in Mexico. I had Ed called around on and explained it.

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02:32:12

Listened to it.

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02:32:12

He was ai, they’re all working for the cartel. That’s what it is. It’s cartel on cartel violence.

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02:32:17

That is so crazy.

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02:32:18

And it’s like, why is that? Because drugs are illegal. And so only the outlaws sell the drugs, and we are the ones who buy it. And so we prop up this fucking illegal market that’s right next door.

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02:32:29

We’re the biggest market in the world for that stuff.

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02:32:30

I know. And it’s just it’s that’s another human problem. Like, so what do you do? Do you make everything legal? You you can do shah. Drug addiction and you gonna have all sorts of problems and people are gonna overdose that probably wouldn’t. But is that better than, like, allowing people to overdose accidentally on fentanyl because they just wanted a bump of coke?

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02:32:48

You can stack bodies. That’s one way to do it. You can actually, like he was saying, treat it like an insurgency and stack bodies like we did with ISIS. We solved that ISIS problem. Nobody ever talks about that. We solved that ISIS problem ram the House sai fucking months. Yeah.

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02:33:01

Well, that we the Trump said, I’ll tell you what. You guys, let’s take the gloves off and just go to work. And we stacked bodies and that kinda went away in six months. It is if you wanna get really ugly, there there’s one aspect of it. You can do that and I believe that’s possible.

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02:33:18

And the reason I believe it’s possible for some countries like The United States is because we’ve done it and that’d be pretty ugly. Or the other thing is to maybe look into legalizing or taking the profit out of that kind of behavior. That’s the second thing. The third thing you could do, you could do is you could actually go to the cartels which is controversial but I know it was on the table and cut a deal which is, tell you what ai, tell us where all the fentanyl is, all the fentanyl factories in this country and in Mexico.

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02:33:49

No fentanyl, no human trafficking, but you can sell, let’s say, marijuana and cocaine. How’s that sound? You have to do

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02:33:55

that too. Yeah. Now Ai heard that involved, like, a financial exchange.

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02:33:59

Sure. And and and meh. That’s right. And and also pay us some reparations. So here’s here’s, I don’t know, $5,000,000,000 today. We’ll give you $5,000,000,000 in about five years.

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02:34:07

Which is crazy.

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02:34:08

Listen. Listen. It’s a deal. Right?

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02:34:11

Right.

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02:34:11

These are business people.

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02:34:13

But do you really think that they would honor that deal? But then, essentially, you’re opening up the door to, well, they’re just a pharmacy now. They’re a pharmacy for illegal drugs that we can’t stop from coming in. So at one point in time, should we just accept the fact that people wanna buy drugs and sell drugs?

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02:34:29

Because look, if cocaine was pure, how many people would be just doing a bump every now and then on a Saturday night?

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02:34:34

You can’t sustain it. Like, if you sana do blow nobody did a bunch of blow. Nobody had a lot of problems.

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02:34:39

Ai, but but you’re

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02:34:39

just saying and it was got better the next day.

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02:34:41

Problem, the that’s a bunch of blow. Some people don’t do a bunch of blow, but they’ll occasionally do blow.

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02:34:47

Ai? A little?

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02:34:47

But no. No. No. That’s not what I’m saying. I mean, some people can just party on the weekend. Okay. Right? We don’t think that’s the case because we think everyone’s a crackhead. Right. Everyone just loses their whole ai. Like, we don’t even know because it’s illegal.

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02:34:59

Right.

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02:34:59

Right? We don’t know how like, this doctor Carl Hart’s position. You know, doctor Carl Hart

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02:35:04

people can actually use drugs recreationally and be fine.

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02:35:07

That’s him. And he’s

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02:35:08

the person that responsibility, they’re adults with.

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02:35:11

Yeah. And and he’s ai, the problem is this propaganda about what drugs are.

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02:35:15

He’s the heroin guy?

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02:35:16

Yeah. Yeah. He tries heroin. He don’t do

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02:35:18

it that way. Sorry. Nor does it. Sorry, dude. I’m not cool.

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02:35:20

You can’t say he’s the

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02:35:21

heroin guy. Hey. Hey.

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02:35:24

But he’s brilliant, and he’s a very interesting guy. When he talks about it, you’re ai, you’re getting the perspective of a very educated person who was a, complete, clean, sober person until he became a clinical researcher. And then as he’s researching these drugs and doing, like, actual scholarly work, he realizes, like, oh, they don’t this is not real at all. This propaganda is nonsense. Yeah.

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02:35:50

Like, the heroin addiction thing, he’s ai, it’s like the flu. It’s like you just you you feel like shit for a couple days, then you get over and you’re fine. Yeah. It’s like it’s not

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02:35:59

Well, he’s I mean, you’re right that most most people use drugs recreationally and it doesn’t ruin their life. Sai, again, I I I subscribe to that idea. Like, let let people do they’re gonna do it anyway, by by the way. They’re gonna smoke weed, they’re gonna do blow, they’re gonna do that shit.

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02:36:16

But it was would it this is my position. I think, yes. But if they did make it legal where you could go to CVS and buy heroin or go to CVS and buy cocaine, you’re gonna get a lot more people that buy it and try it because it’s now legal. You know, so you meh a lot more drug use initially. Maybe in the short term. Yeah. Because our culture is fucked up.

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02:36:36

Our culture is, like, designed to accept legal things that are very detrimental ai alcohol, which is a hugely detrimental. One of the worst

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02:36:43

ones for you. Bigger than cocaine.

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02:36:44

Yeah. Well, that’s all that’s one of the things that Hunter Biden said. You ever hear hear Hunter Biden talk about crack? No. Makes you sana try crack. It’s amazing.

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02:36:51

Yeah.

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02:36:51

He did this interview with what is that guy’s name? Andrew Callahan. Andrew Callahan. And, he did this whole thing where he described how amazing crack is. I swear to God, it makes you wanna try crack. Yeah. But, you know, he asked him, do you think crack is safer than alcohol? He’s like, yeah. Probably. Yeah.

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02:37:07

It’s probably safer. And it probably Well,

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02:37:09

first of all, crack is devastating quickly. Like, you’ll wake up in three years and have no house and be on the street. Alcohol you can be an alcoholic for forty years before you realize, holy fuck. I got nothing going on.

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02:37:19

Yeah. That’s true.

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02:37:20

Right? So Yeah. So I I again, I mean, I I think that the the ai is you can legalize it. There’s a lot of money enforcement and, you know, or you can speak bodies.

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02:37:31

Well, in the back arya the day, people used to snort cocaine and if you took the freebasing, you had a real problem. Like, that was Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor was fine tyler he started freebasing.

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02:37:40

Sure. And then But most of us are gonna go But

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02:37:42

that’s crack. Right. Free basing is crack.

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02:37:44

But most of us would like, most of us are busy. Right? Like, you’re gonna have people that are gonna fuck their lives up just like they do with alcohol and everything else and cocaine and crack. But most of us, even if it’s exactly. But if it’s around we’ll navigate it exactly how we’re gonna navigate social media.

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02:37:59

Exactly how we navigate alcohol.

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02:38:01

Right. At least the you’re start you’re gonna start to see people are gonna start to realize they’re being gamed by bots, by the most extreme examples. Your algorithm is lying to you. So pretty soon what happens? You say things like, I’m not gonna fucking I’m not I’m gonna get off social media.

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02:38:16

I don’t listen like,

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02:38:17

ten years before they figure that out the ai way.

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02:38:19

Okay. But it takes a ai, and then we’ll have another problem. But I I just think every time you try to, fucking Nanny state. Or just make the world yeah. Make the world fix the world with with force Right. And laws. Better. It’s kinda like squeezing a balloon.

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02:38:35

The gas is the the air is just gonna go on another part of the balloon. As I get older, I’m like, I don’t know, man. There might be a much easier way to do this shit.

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02:38:42

Yeah. Well, personal responsibility is huge, but also counseling. Like, if you’re gonna allow drugs that you do, it have to be a whole support system set up to help people with addiction. But then also, they should bring in Ibogaine. I mean, what they’re doing with Ibogaine in Texas with veterans and with people that are drug addicts, they’ve had tremendous results.

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02:39:00

It stops your addiction dead in its tracks.

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02:39:02

Ai. Right?

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With one session, eighty percent of the people never never return. And with two sessions, ninety plus percent of the people never return.

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02:39:10

To alcohol?

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02:39:11

To anything. To heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, whatever it is.

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02:39:16

Holy shit.

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02:39:16

Whatever you’re hooked on.

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02:39:17

Doesn’t Ozempic work for that shit too? Ozempic seems

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02:39:20

to have some sort of an effect on that as well.

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02:39:22

Yeah. Yeah.

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02:39:22

It has some sort of Cravings

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02:39:24

part of your brain.

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02:39:25

Shah. Because it’s ai it stops ai. So I wonder if it stops ai an appetite for, like, wild shit ai. Like Yeah. Come on, Bryden.

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02:39:33

Yeah. You know,

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02:39:33

like, people that are gambling addicts. Yeah. Apparently, it it helps.

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02:39:36

I think that the peptides and all that shit technology is gonna make it so that we can figure out a way to control a lot of that shit.

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02:39:43

I think so too. Yeah. Ai think they’ll but They

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02:39:45

have very good drugs for alcohol. Mhmm. Very good drugs. You can take a drug for alcohol. The problem is it’s not the alcohol. The problem is when you take away somebody’s addiction, like alcohol

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02:39:54

Then they still have a niche for something.

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02:39:55

But no. But it’s also, ai, your whole all the fun of your life. Do you know that when you get a when people get gastric bypass, and and they they stop eating, suicides go up for them? Because eating was how they fucking dealt with all their problems. Like, so you’re you know, you you

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02:40:11

Of course.

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02:40:12

Again, now you’re you’re you’re taking away the addiction, but you you’re not getting to the source Right. Because you gotta be able to replace that shit.

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02:40:19

You gotta turn into triathlete like that old lady.

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02:40:21

Which is why you gotta go to church. I’m a man of God. Ai gotta I gotta go to church now. Do you? Yeah. I’ve come

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02:40:28

to church many times.

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02:40:29

I like it. I go to I go to Meh Rocks.

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02:40:31

Don’t tell people where you go. Oh, sorry. I gotta come see you. Fuck. Yeah. Hang on. I’m not that famous. Sit right behind you

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02:40:37

and stare

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02:40:37

at your ai. Sai if you’re on the right page.

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02:40:39

This is what this is my fame. People go, you know Joe Rogan? That Can you get this thing to him? Ai got a deal.

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02:40:44

Yeah. I wanna sell shoelaces.

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02:40:47

I don’t even do I don’t I love that. I’ll I’ll sometimes people just come up with, like, today, great idea. Like, you know, it’s sai good thing. And you were ai, I’m just not interested.

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02:40:56

Yeah. Yeah. I don’t wanna be in business with anybody. No. It’s not fun. No. I’ve tried it. Yeah. It’s not a good time.

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02:41:02

I do have I do have a business proposal. Yeah. I’ll ai it with you. I have an idea.

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02:41:07

I’m sure you do.

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02:41:08

I have one idea.

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02:41:09

I’m busy.

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02:41:09

I brought you with I brought I brought two ideas to you.

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02:41:12

Yeah. They all suck.

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02:41:12

Oh, they didn’t. They’re suck.

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02:41:16

Tell everybody you’re special. Brian Cowan, sound out. Special. There it is.

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02:41:20

My special is false gods. My false gods. Ai shot at a mother shah. I’m very proud of it. I think it’s gonna be great. Who shot it for you? Dana, who’s Sam Tripoli’s, lady.

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02:41:31

Oh, nice.

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02:41:31

Nice. Dana so meh. And she’s that’s the second thing she did. She did meh tears, and this is, I’m dropping this tomorrow.

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02:41:37

Beautiful. And

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02:41:38

this will air tomorrow?

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02:41:39

It’ll air well, it’s today. So if it is listening

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02:41:42

Oh, shit.

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02:41:43

It’s today. Alright. If you’re listening. It’ll be tomorrow, but it’ll

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02:41:45

Oh, shit.

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02:41:46

October 15 Yeah. Exclusively on YouTube. That’s it. E fucking bra.

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02:41:50

Now I’m back to square 1. I’m gonna shoot my next one at the mother shah. I’ll see you tonight, but Sai see you be, Yeah.

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02:41:55

I’ll be there tonight.

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02:41:55

I’ll be there too.

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02:41:56

Let’s go.

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02:41:56

Thank you for the time.

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02:41:57

My pleasure, my brother. It’s always good to hang out.

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02:41:59

Oh, hey, and come see every when every other Wednesday at Brian Redman’s Club, Sunset Strip. We do acting off. Do you know about my show?

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02:42:07

Oh, no. What’s that?

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02:42:08

Ai, dude. I take I take all the all the comics in Austin, and we see who the best actor is. So you’ve gotta, like, do things like die in slow motion who does that the best or do do redo the scene from the notebook as miss Piggy and Donald Trump is fucking hilarious. Peyton Ruddy is a fucking killer in it, damn

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02:42:24

Cornell. Ai. Dude? That’s a great idea.

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02:42:26

It’s so amazing. And we haven’t promoted it, but I’m starting to promote it now because we’re gamifying it. We have teams Nice. And see who can do the best, like, you know, interpretation. We have we have up close acting, so we have a camera on your face.

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02:42:36

This is another thing that pisses me off about all these comics talking shit about the Austin scene. There’s so many things going on here. This idea

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02:42:42

So many clubs.

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02:42:43

People have, like, made this again, this straw man, ai, you have to have an n word joke and you have to have a trans joke. Like, fuck. That fucking club is so diverse. Incredibly diverse. But naturally Yes. With no effort. It’s all just funny

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02:42:59

people. Who’s the funniest?

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02:43:01

People are funny in all shapes and sizes ram all walks of ai. Whatever struggle you’ve had that manifests itself in humor

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02:43:08

That’s right.

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02:43:09

Exists. There’s tons of people in that club that are gay. Most of the comedians capped. Most of the comedians, by the way, are liberal. Yes, sai. So that throws that out the window. Correct. This whole idea that it’s some fucking right wing comedy club. Like, stop it. Most of the people there are liberal. Correct.

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02:43:26

Most of them.

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02:43:27

Correct.

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02:43:27

But it’s just this walled garden thing when people are on the outside and they’re like, there wasn’t there hasn’t been a scene here before.

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02:43:33

Right.

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02:43:34

And then you have the scrubs that were here. Like, they ruined the comedy scene. Like, you guys had nothing.

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02:43:38

Shut up.

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02:43:39

You shut your

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02:43:40

Shut up.

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02:43:40

Stupid, lazy hole. You had nothing. Right. There was there was you didn’t even have a comedy club. When I moved here, Cap City was closed. You know how I know? Because I was gonna buy it.

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02:43:51

Right. I

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02:43:51

was looking I went to look at the fucking place where Cap City used to be, and I was gonna purchase it.

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02:43:56

Yeah.

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02:43:57

That’s how I know it was under.

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02:43:58

Good club now.

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02:43:59

It’s the new one. Yeah.

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02:44:00

That’s a different one. Yeah. Yeah.

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02:44:01

The old one was great too, ai is like an events center now. Yeah. But, yeah, the new one is great.

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02:44:05

No. But but but but the motor shah brought a bunch of comedy here, so there are a lot of other clubs that are going that are really ai. The quick in a cave. Because we made it

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02:44:13

so that first of all, you’ve got a club that has two days of open mic nights and you’ve got a real guy in Adam Egan who’s a real tyler coordinator Yep. That really helps development of comedians and he does it really ai consciously.

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02:44:25

Takes it very seriously.

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02:44:26

Takes it very seriously and he’s ai, he really loves comedy and he really wants to help people and he gives great advice and he

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02:44:32

takes his spot. Adam actually watches sets. Like, he sits in the audience and watches the session. He does his

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02:44:37

job very seriously. Unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, that’s why I brought him in. I mean, he and I were the founders of the mothership. I mean, it was like Wow. We did it together. Wow. I wouldn’t have done it without him. Yeah. I wouldn’t have done it without him and without Carrie and a lot of the people that came from from the the the store. Meh.

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02:44:53

And this is a place that we’re it’s new. And so if you’re on the outside and you’re not in, you try to find some criticism. That that’s ai, criticism is fine if you’re telling the truth. But there’s a bunch of people that are making things up because they’re trying to attack something that they can’t be a part of. That’s right.

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02:45:09

And most of the reason you can’t be a part of this because you’re a cunt. You’re a cunt. You’re a ai y person.

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02:45:15

You’re a cunt. We have no cunts allowed. No cunts.

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02:45:17

We ai to limit it and we have. You know, we’ve we’ve actually banned some cunts. Yeah. You know, because people were shitty people. Yeah. And ai we’re trying to have a real positive place. We

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02:45:27

can just

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02:45:27

get better at this art form. It’s a love fest. Every time we go there, everybody’s having a good time.

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02:45:32

I love it.

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02:45:33

And you can have people that have better experiences there and worse experiences there. One of the things, like, someone was saying that she went to a comedy show and Justin Martindale went on, and then the next guy who came on arya saying all these slurs about him. Yeah. You know who the next guy was? Who? Brian Holtzman. Okay? So if you know Brian Holtzman’s act, it’s a character he plays that’s a complete maniac. Right.

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02:45:56

And everyone he goes on he went after Kim Congdon the other night. Right. Kim Congdon has this great set. She’s in the the little boys. Great sai. Very funny.

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02:46:05

He goes out and he goes, isn’t it amazing watching women try to do things men do? What are you doing? Get in the kitchen. Get in the kitchen. It’s a character. He’s a character.

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02:46:14

He’s the sweetest. He’s the sweetest human being.

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02:46:17

He’s the sweetest human being. Sai he did this with Justin Ai.

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02:46:18

And Justin Martin doesn’t care. Justin Martindale, a kid as good as he.

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02:46:21

Fucking said he ai commented on it and this girl was talking shit about it. Uh-huh. But, yeah, that happened. Like, yeah, that happened with Brian Holtzman, you fucking asshole. You know what he’s doing. He does that with me. He does that with everybody. Yeah. Every single person he goes on after, he shits on them to set the tone, and then he shits on everything.

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02:46:39

He shits on the tech guys walking around with their their South by Southwest. He goes crazy.

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02:46:44

Yeah.

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02:46:45

He’s funny as shit too. He’s a legend.

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02:46:47

Yeah.

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02:46:47

Like, you know what he’s doing. This so that maybe this one comic didn’t know. Maybe no one told her, but she’s, like, spreading all this shit that it’s, like, this hateful ai. No. No. No. No. No. It’s it’s sai silly.

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02:47:00

I know you wish it was because then it it could suck and you’re not a part of it.

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02:47:04

Come see how many come see how diverse the faces are in the fucking mothership. It’s the United Nations, dude.

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02:47:09

Yeah. It really is.

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02:47:10

It really is. And and including because of Tony, there are a lot of people who are who are, disabled who would never have a fucking stage. But because they did some shit on Kill Tony, Tony, like, you know, facilitated the fact that they have a place to perform every single fucking night and a community.

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02:47:29

And then, by the way, they’ve earned it. I’m not saying they haven’t.

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02:47:31

Yes. And to Kill Tony, they have a very unique pathway where if they can really bang out a solid minute and kill

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02:47:39

Sai are they

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02:47:39

they can have a career. Yeah. You can have a career. Yeah. And then

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02:47:42

Timmy no breaks. Meh does acting off, by the way.

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02:47:45

Oh, I’m sure he’s meh.

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02:47:46

Dude, that dude is he’ll just come up with shit out of him and Peyton Runny will fucking and Danny Martinelli, they’ll hit you with shah, and we’re just ai, holy fuck.

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02:47:55

And that’s Wednesday night at what time?

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02:47:57

Wednesday night, we do it at seven. We’re doing it on October 22. Come see what we do. It’s gamified. It’s Where

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02:48:04

is, the best place to

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02:48:05

find out when you guys are gonna

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02:48:06

be there? Is it the ai?

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02:48:08

Yeah. My well Comic strip.

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02:48:09

The I mean, yeah, the Sunset Strip website.

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02:48:10

Sunset Strip’s website and and my website, but also my my Instagram stuff. I Ai post about it. Beautiful. And Nick Collis and my buddy Nick Simmons, who are my openers. You know Nick Simmons? Yeah.

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02:48:19

Yeah. Yeah. He’s funny.

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02:48:20

Funny as

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02:48:20

shit. He’s funny. Very funny.

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02:48:21

We gotta get him in. We gotta get those. Those guys are all auditioning too. They’re they’re going through the whole process, so it’s great.

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02:48:26

Alright. You’re at, False Gods available now on YouTube.

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02:48:29

Come see me. Alright.

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02:48:30

Love you, bro.

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02:48:31

Peace. Love you.

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02:48:32

Ai, everybody ai.

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