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Jack Carr is a bestselling author, retired Navy SEAL, and host of several podcasts, including “Danger Close.” His newest book, “Cry Havoc,” is available now.www.officialjackcarr.com
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Alright. You’re up. My man. What’s Good to see you,
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Always great to
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see you. I’ve been so looking forward to this. We’re going a thousand miles an hour for it seems like
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Me too, man. And I’ve I’ve been really looking forward to talking to you about this book because I know that you’ve been obsessed. You’ve been obsessed by this era in human history, and tell us about it.
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Yeah. Yeah. So it’s 1968 Vietnam, and, Ai just launched the book tour not last night but the night before because last night was comedy mothership, kill Tony, which was amazing. It was a blast.
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It was
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so crazy. The best show to go. Go. Did they vet any of those people, by the way, before they come up? No. Yeah. Didn’t look didn’t look like ai.
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People, brilliant people, great comics, terrible comics. That was fantastic. It’s the best show ever.
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That was fantastic. But, yeah, I kicked off the book tour with, David Morrell who who created Rambo back in 1972 with First Blood. Sai that was a huge honor for me. He’s been an inspiration to me my whole life. And, I wrote a series of books in the eighties, Brotherhood of the Rose, Fraternity of the Stone, League of Night and Fog, which were just incredible.
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And, ai to kick off the book tour with him out there. Signed a baby for the first time. I’ve never signed a baby. So someone brought a baby through and asked me to sign their kid. I was like Seems wrong. It does.
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And then, then I realized they just sana me to sign the shirt on the baby, which is a little better than the actual skin of the baby. So Yeah. So I did that.
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Worried they would tattoo the baby. That was,
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two new tattoos came through. So I sai two new very large tattoos of cross top box. Cross top box. That’s nice. That’s crazy. I mean, you’ve been had that for a while. You’ve had people doing that for a while for you. But I remember the first time I got one. I think it was after I think it was after that was on or right around the same time the first time I was on.
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So, like, 2020, the first time I saw it, I texted you and sent it. I was like, someone tattooed the cross tomahawks on themselves. And, you know, I’d excited you you’ve had that with, with you for a ai. And if it was weird the first time, some you see it. Like, now it’s kinda must be kinda normal because a lot of people have tattoos
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of you. It’s
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not normal. It’s not normal. Yeah.
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You know, it’s weird. It’s very weird. They’ll probably grow to regret them. Never. Never.
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That doesn’t happen with tattoos, does it? No. Not mine. No.
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I don’t regret mine. I like mine. It’s sai life story. It’s a life story. Yeah. It’s, you know, depends on what you got. Yeah.
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You know? And timing and maybe if you got someone’s name on there that’s no longer a part of your life.
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Yeah. That’s maybe the wife wants you to get that removed. Perhaps turn it into a snake.
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I’ve heard that. Exactly. Exactly. But, but, yeah, the book 1968 Vietnam, and I thought this was gonna be the but the book that was gonna take me the least amount of time because I thought I had this foundation of knowledge when it comes to warfare, Vietnam in particular, those lessons.
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Ai had the influence of popular culture when it comes to the sixties and Vietnam as well growing up, so I thought I was I was well prepared to dive into this world. And I didn’t wanna just say that they’re listening to Creedence Clearwater Revival and that it’s 1968 and then essentially drop a contemporary thriller into the sixties, into Vietnam 1968.
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Instead, I wanted someone who lived through that era to know that I put in the effort, and any sentence had to be written through the lens of 1968 without the benefit of fifty plus years of hindsight. So if someone is, you know, 70 years old, 50 years old, 20 years old, they only have their life experience up to that point to, make a decision for perspective on an event, and that took a lot more time than I thought.
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I got a dictionary from 1969. Ai couldn’t find the one from 1968 I wanted, so I got a dictionary from 1969 to look out at how terms were defined back then, a lot of maps from the era, and it was just a took a lot longer, which is why we’re here in October and not in Jan June when the book was supposed to come out.
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Oh, wow. So what so when you get a dictionary from 1968, what is the difference?
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Well, that’s what I wanted to to find out.
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Is there a lot of difference?
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I’m sure there is, but I was looking at just some specific terms that I can’t meh what they are right now. But And
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you just wanted to look them up through
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that book. Look up yeah. If you wanna Google something today, I’m gonna be doing this research as if I was in the sixties. And so if I needed to look something up, whether it was spelling or whatever else, I wanted to use that instead of, like, asking Google machine. So I just wanted to transport myself back in tyler. And, yeah, that was that was quite the endeavor. I didn’t expect at the outset.
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So
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I feel like this that war in particular is, it’s like World War two was what we think America is. Vietnam is what America really is.
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That is a very perceptive insight.
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So World War two, we were fighting evil. Yeah. We were stopping the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich. Yeah. World World War two was just. Vietnam was fucking nonsense. And it’s still to this day, it it infuriates people that participated in it. It infuriates people who lost family members.
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It does it didn’t make any sense. It was birthed on a lie. It was a complete false flag event that our own government
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Yeah.
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They they lied to us and told us that that the Gulf Of Tonkin, there was an incident where one of our battleships was attacked, and it wasn’t. It was all ai lie, and it was just to get us into this fucking war. And there’s a whole bunch of people that made a whole bunch of money and a bunch of people died. And at the end of it, everybody felt broken.
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And during it, there was a gigantic cult cultural revolution in the middle of it. That’s the real America.
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Yeah. You know, it’s, it’s something that I explore in the book. And with the benefit of hindsight, it’s certainly more, it it it’s more not relevant, but, you you can you can draw that out for sure with the benefit of hindsight. And I’m trying to write this thing in 1968 from these ai. So they’re having these conversations with only that information.
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So they don’t yet know who’s making a ton of money. They’re not Right. Yet knowing about Bell Helicopters and and all the rest of this stuff. They’re not they don’t really know yet about Gulf Of Tonkin. They just know that 1968 is the bloodiest year thus far of the war, and it’s gonna be the bloodiest year of the war so far, which is why I sai it in that year.
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How many people died that year?
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Well, fifty eight over 58,000 in total. And I forget exactly how many for that particular year, but we lost more people that year and had more people wounded than any other year of the war. But over fifty eight thousand people died in Vietnam on our ai, to say nothing of the Vietnamese, and, NVA, Viet Cong, civilians, you know, all put together.
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But, certainly, a lot more than 58,000. And over what? Yeah. Looking back so I’m trying to look at it through the lens of the day. And when you look at that, the domino thing, we look back and say, of course, the rest of the world wouldn’t have fallen to communism.
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But at the time, I tried to put myself into the shoes of the people making these decisions. And, there at least for Southeast Asia, there was the the threat of other countries falling. Even if they did, would that have meant anything long term for the rest of us today? It’s it’s hard to say that it would have.
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But, it I mean, the whole thing is so is so heartbreaking. And you’re ai. When we got back from from World War two, those guys had parades. They got back to work. They used the GI Bill. They built this country into what it is today. Vietnam, those ai, it was looked at like they went bankrupt.
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Just like a company going bankrupt. And Not only after
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they came back, they were called baby killers. They were meh at the airport by protesters.
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They had all that to to deal with, all of that baggage to deal with. And, and that left a scar on an entire generation. It really, you know, a lot of that started with the Kennedy assassination in 1963, and then we move on into the war, and this becomes the first televised war.
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So there were photographs of the civil war. There’s, photographs, World War one, World War two. We’re getting the newsreels when you go to the movies on Saturday and see the matinee, and you’re getting those. But that’s a very different type of way to get your news, because you’re seeing it once a week or you’re seeing a still photograph in a paper, then we get to Vietnam.
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And now you’re seeing it every day on the news. You’re seeing Walter Cronkite there give you that news, and you’re watching these guys in foxholes, and you’re seeing the shooting, and you’re seeing this chaos. And then also the media, I think this is the first time where the media realizes they have not they’re not just a a pillar as a check on government.
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They realize at this point that they actually have power to influence events and policy. So how they report from Vietnam, very different from how reporters even in Korea, but let’s say World War two, very different from how reporters, reported on that war. And now I think in Vietnam, you have these guys in Saigon, and they ai and they’re staying at these amazing hotels, and they’re partying it up at ai.
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And some of them are going to the outskirts of town, so it looks like they’re out in the rice patties or whatever, and then they’re going back to their hotel for for drinks. But they ai during this time that they can influence policy. And so that’s what we see with the Tet Offensive.
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We see that as a complete is a complete tactical win for The United States, but it becomes a loss for us, a huge strategic loss for us because of the way that it’s reported. And the, the media is involved in that. So we they didn’t know it before. What was
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the issue? The media distorted what was going on?
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Yeah. The media media distorted what was what was going on and, and talked about this huge victory for the, for the NBA and, for for North Vietnam. And it wasn’t really, but it was when they reported it that way. And then we see more of America turning against this war and, and and policy shifts and more people shipped into Vietnam.
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So it’s a I mean, it’s the whole thing is so is so sai. And I try to humanize it and personalize it in this book because you can read about I think it’s the importance of reading fiction also because you’re you can you get a compassion there, and an empathy for people because you’re living something through their eyes even though it’s fiction, that you don’t get really through through nonfiction.
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You can read about all these numbers. You can read about 58,000. But when you read a story like this, then you’re getting to know these characters and you’re going through this thing with them, and that then becomes part of your experience. So even sai, let’s say, BUDS going through going through SEAL training. Yeah. I’m I’m I’m thinking back to Normandy, and I’m thinking back to to, to Iwo Jima.
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I’m thinking back to Vietnam and what these guys had to go through, and then I’m realizing, oh, I can do a few more push ups in the sand here in Coronado, California. All those guys died and sacrificed so much so that I could be here. But some of that comes through the, works of fiction too, the thrillers that I was reading growing up from guys who had backgrounds in Vietnam or just from things they’re dealing with in contemporary thrillers of the day.
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But that became part of my ai, and I didn’t have to, and it’s it’s almost like you’re living it even though it’s all made up. So, that’s the important of important of reading in general. And the beacon of reading, when we go when we look at 2003 to 2025 and the drop off in reading that has occurred, that is scary.
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Is it do you think that’s because of the Internet?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s quite, it corresponds, almost directly with the rise of the smartphone. Mhmm. And, and, of course, it continues to drop today. So I think I’m getting into publishing and Hollywood in probably one of the worst times in the last hundred years that ai could decide to do something like this with AI and all and all the rest of it.
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It’s, and less people reading and less people there’s no ai. There’s no box office for movies anymore.
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No. The worst time to get into it is tomorrow.
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Yeah. Good point.
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The very I’m gonna I’m gonna say better that you already have The Terminal List and The Dark Wolf on TV. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You’re way better off. True point. Today, they’d be like, we have no use for scripts.
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Oh, man. We wrote
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our own we wrote a 100 scripts in the time it took you to walk up the stairs.
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Oh, man. I know.
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Yeah. We put put in prompts. I sana a Vietnam thriller Yeah. Involving, a handsome football player. Right. A guy who tries to go do the best for his country, but Yeah. Ai, like, Pat Tillman ai gets disillusioned when he gets there.
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Yeah. I mean, that’s it’s a it’s a thing. I think, CAA, my saloni agency just sent me a thing the other day and said that one of these, yeah, OpenAI ai, they I think it was a $1,500,000,000 settlement or something and that that they’ve used my books, and I’m sure they’ve used this podcast.
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I’m sure they’ve used all sorts of things. But, but the the settlement out of that for me is possibly a thousand dollars.
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Congratulations.
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And I well, thank you. And, I thought, well, my attorney’s gonna be that money. Is my attorney only gonna take an hour to do this? Because that’s about makes it a, you know, a a net. Exactly. So, but then do you not do it? Because then they just hold them I don’t know. It’s it’s crazy.
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Take the thousand. But they have to pay, like,
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6,000 to get the thousand to do it. Really?
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I would think.
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They’re gonna spend hilarious. I’m sure they’re gonna spend, like, six hours.
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Give it to you?
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I don’t think so. I mean, if I even ask the question, a thousand’s gone. You know?
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Cut me a check, bitch.
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It’s I don’t think it works that way. Oh, no. I don’t even know. But the AI part is interesting. I was talking to, sai I was in Morocco filming, True Believer, just a couple weeks ago. So we finished up filming out there with Ai and everybody. It was amazing. And, and that yep. From Morocco, you fly through France on the way home.
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So I stopped in Paris for a few days, met my wife out there, met some other friends out there, went to a bunch of dinners and things like that. But one of them is a guy named Rick Rosenfield. He started California Pizza Kitchen back in 1985. And, they were gonna put one in one of the Wynn Hotels in Vegas. And, we’re talking about AI, and that’s how this this plays in here.
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And he said he told me the story, and I’ll get this is the general gist. It might be not the exact detail, but the general gist is right. They’re gonna put one into one of the Wynn casinos. And so he goes in there with, with Steve Wynn, and they’re walking through, and Saloni Jennings is with them.
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So they’re all there’s three these three guys, Steve Wynn, Vic Rosenfield, and Waylon Jennings. And they go in and and Steve Wynn says, hey, Saloni, we have this cover band. We have this guy that does just your cover tunes. He’s a huge fan of yours, and I’d appreciate if you said you said hi to him. And Waylon Jennings is like, yeah. No problem.
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So the cover band guy is like Jalen Wennings or something. Let’s call him that. I don’t know what his real name is. But, sits down, and they’re having drinks. And the guy’s like, I I love I love all your stuff. Thank you so much.
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I hope it’s okay that that I’m doing these cover bands, but you’re I just idolize you. And Waylon Jennings is sitting there. He goes, oh, yeah. No no problem. Only there is one problem though, with what you’re doing. And the guy’s like, what what what? And he said, you’re always one album behind. And I was like, oh.
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And this guy told me the story in the context of AI and someone using my books to write another book that is has a similar tone or write this in the style of Jack Carr with some prompts. And I was saying that I was a little concerned about this and just don’t know what’s going gonna happen in the future, and he told me that story.
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And so I’m ai, oh, that’s fantastic. They’re always gonna be a book behind.
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Like yeah. Yeah. But AI is not a cover band. AI is a lot smarter than us. That’s the problem. The problem is, you know, I don’t know if you’re paying attention to what it’s been doing with music. But, ai, sai, Jamie, show them some of the interviews.
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Ai saw those. Some
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of the interviews that you made.
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I showed them up there, Yeah. Yeah. Those are crazy. This is crazy. Yeah. That’s cool.
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Muhammad Ali Yeah. Yeah, on the podcast.
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Yeah. Michael Jackson.
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Yeah. Michael Jackson on the podcast. And it’s not it’s not difficult for it to do stuff like that. And so that we’re not talking about a cover band. We’re talking about someone that can do something or something that can accomplish a task that human beings can’t.
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Meh, now I’m bummed out again. I was all positive a second ago.
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Play that. This is so crazy.
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You gotta act like it every day. That mean working with nobody watching, staying humble, but never doubting yourself. You still carry that mindset now? Oh, it’s in me forever. You don’t stop being a champion just because the bell ain’t
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Dude, when you sit down like this with a microphone, you can’t hide anything. Your breathing, your hesitation, even your heartbeat comes through. If you try to be some
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That’s incredible. Grow up with nothing, man. You learn quicker you can trust. Every smile, every handshake, you wave. That’s terrible.
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They might they might figure that one out.
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That one’s terrible. Helps them. That’s terrible. That’s someone else’s
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You ever notice how life sneak up on you like a bill you forgot you had? One day you’re cool. Next sai,
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like, there’s responsibility
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on my porch.
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Stop that.
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But there are some that are good. Stop that.
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Stop that. That’s not Richard Pryor’s voice.
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You think the whole world is waiting for you to show up, and then you find out the world was busy already. The trick is figuring out how to join in without losing your I would say hearing it through these headphones, now you can hear that weird
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Yeah. Tinge.
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Ai, that’s supposed to be Lee Harvey Oswald. Doesn’t really look like him?
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A little bit. Like ai really young Lee Harvey Oswald. Anyway, we’re fucked. That’s crazy. We’re fucked. Bottom line is and music is really fucked. Like, we were playing this, fifty Cent cover. Yeah. They did a song the song Meh Men, but they did it with, like, a soul singer from, like, the nineteen fifties or ai sixties. It’s incredible. It’s so good.
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It’s ai one of my favorite songs.
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Really?
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It’s not even a real person.
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That’s insane.
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It’s not even a real person. We’re hilarious. It’s so good. We were on the green room the other night. We’re like, if this guy was a real dude, he would be the biggest star in the world right now. Because everybody would wanna hear him sing.
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I mean, Milli Vanilli just did it a little too early.
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Well, Milli Vanilli just lip synced. You know, this is a totally different experience. This is ai they’re gonna create stuff with your voice better than anything you can do.
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It’s so brutal. But for the kids, at least we’re aware of it, so we can choose. Maybe we can choose. It’s gonna be hard to like, some of these things, it’s gonna be hard to to figure out at some point, but I almost think there needs to be remember the parental advisories in the eighties they put on CDs and stuff like that back then?
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Like, at least you know, like, if I wanna go and I wanna buy this piece of art right here, and I walk into that store and I love this thing. And I put it in my house, and it’s there for ten years, and I show everybody that comes in. But what if that thing is I don’t know that no one actually made that. That was just the Ai made that. Yeah.
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And I find out 10 later, did what does that differ? Is that a different experience now for me? Do I feel cheated? I don’t know.
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You should feel cheated.
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Yeah. But if you but if you buy it, there has to be a little thing on it. I don’t know that tells you, then you’re aware.
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Well, part of what art is is someone made it. Yeah. I ai You know, that’s what makes it it kinda cool. Yeah.
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You know,
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if it was made by a computer, it doesn’t seem I don’t it doesn’t have a piece of a person in it, you know?
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And are people gonna care like our kids? Are they gonna care that, I
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don’t know because I don’t care about that song. So I don’t know what to say. It’s I don’t wanna be a hypocrite, but it’s, it’s inevitable. It’s happening. You know, you’re gonna have to deal with it and adapt, and I think what it means to be a person is going to change.
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That’s so brutal.
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Yeah. I I don’t think it’s possible to avoid change, and this is the direction that change is going. Yeah. And sai, at your essence, like, what are you and who are you? You have to search for that in different ways. And you’re probably not gonna be able to search for it the same way through music and books if you find out that these music and books weren’t actually written by like minded people.
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Or is it that the the lessons and the the energy, say the energy of the music and the lessons of the books, it is from people. Because what AI has done is they’ve absorbed all of the art that everyone has ever created ever In terms of literature, and music, and even comedy, and whatever.
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And it’s combined it together in a style that’s completely variable. You can have it like Amy Winehouse. You can make it sound like Biggie Smalls. You can make it sound like ai. But it is all it’s imitating everything that humans have created and would still will still affect humans and maybe inspire us more and maybe put a premium on something that’s created by an actual human and not by AI.
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Maybe it’ll become more valuable.
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Hope so. Yeah. Hope so. Put the books on, like, hey. This is made by an actual human. No AI was used. I haven’t used it yet. I haven’t used, ChatGPT or anything like that. I can barely update my word. That’s what I wanna do. Like, keep my word updated. That’s the main thing.
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But I know a lot of people that are that are using it and love it, and ai still have a relationship with this thing.
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Yeah. I use Perplexity for questions
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on
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Everyone’s scared of change. They were scared of the printing press. Yeah. I mean, people have been scared of the wheel. They were scared of the locomotive.
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People are scared of everything.
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I’m not scared of it. I’m I’m scared that it could potentially fuck up society, but, I feel like that’s just what’s gonna happen. You know, it’s just we go through cycles. Go to Rome. Go look around. What happened? Wherever you go?
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You know, there’s there’s still people living here, but that society that built that
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I think you learn to if you learn to think for yourself, you think logically. If you read kids today, if they put that down that phone and just read, that is a superpower. They will get out there and crush. Read, work out, do some MMA, BJJ stuff, do a little boxing, but read, you are going to just leave everyone else in the dust when it comes to whatever you wanna do next in ai, out of high school, out of college, whatever it is.
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If you have that foundation, then you’re wondering gonna be a more empathetic and passionate person, but you’re gonna have this knowledge base that other people are rigs are are, relying on chat CPT, whatever it is, their phone, whatever, to do that thinking for them.
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Yeah. It’s amazing how many people just don’t consume any nonfiction or fiction. They don’t consume anything but, like, TikTok and Netflix.
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Yes. It is absolutely.
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Kinda nuts.
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Like like I said about the the time that enter enter publishing. If you I think the a great time is the nineties for that because you had, let’s see, Michael Crichton, and then you had John Grisham. Like, every other year, there was some Michael Crichton movie and then a John Grisham movie, and they had the best directors, actors of the day, producers of the day, and then people bought books they were still reading back then because there yet wasn’t yet the Internet.
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There wasn’t yet all these other things that distract you. So those guys got to crush. That was, ai, I think that was maybe the golden age of being an author, and adapting your stuff to to film or television, mostly film back then. But those guys got to crush. And, today, not not as much. But it’s fun, though. It’s still fun to create. Still fun to do all this.
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Still fun to be in Morocco doing this stuff and
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There’s guys like you that are still doing it. Yeah. You know, it’s still it’s still doable.
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Yep. Still doable. That’s for sure. But, but it’s payday’s not the same.
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You did the right way though. You know, you did it on Amazon. They gave you a lot of creative freedom. You got great people to work with. Yeah. That’s the right way. Sai mean, I’m a big fan of the Gray Man series. Yeah. I think he does, he’s a great ai, but his stuff is so much more violent and gritty than what was portrayed in the film. Yeah.
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The film glossed it up and, you know, it made it a little pretty.
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Right. That’s what happened for the most part. It’s, Ai and Sai say Did you see a bad monkey with, with, Vince Vaughn? No. So it gets on Apple. And, What is it? He’s a a cop that’s, kinda down on his luck, and he’s, he’s on suspension or whatever. And, he lives in The Keys, so it has that whole Keys ai, and they film it down there.
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And so you recognize ai you’ve been there, you recognize all these places. But, Carl Heising is the author, and he he he has this, he’s very unique ai. But what he says about Hollywood is he drives to the border of California. He throws his book over the border. They throw a bunch of money back at him, and he drives back to back to Florida. That’s how and whatever happens happens. You know?
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It’s, so it’s it’s one way to look at it, but most authors aren’t involved in their in their in, in whatever happens. They like to get rid of that author right away so you’re not on set saying you ruined my vision. Yeah.
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I get that. I could I get that. But it seems like what you’re doing is better because you’re involved
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in it,
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and then it reaches your vision. Or as close as you’re gonna get.
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You help add value. Yeah. You wanna make it the best show you possibly can.
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Yeah. When I saw the terminal list, I was like, this is about as close as you can get and do a TV shah. And, you know, and not have it rated, you know, NC 17, ai, super hyper graphic.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But, you know, it’s it’s way harder to do that in a movie. To take a book
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You only an hour and a half, two hours now.
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Your books take hours to read. Yeah.
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And we have seven hours for Dark Wolf, eight hours for, for The Terminal List, we’ll have eight hours for True Believer.
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That’s that’s
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the way to do it. Yeah. And that one I that has the hunting stuff in it. So once again, now, I think we’d like, for some reason, if we’d started with that or if I’d started with that as a book, then it would have been much more difficult because Amazon, would have been much more hesitant.
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24:28
Mhmm. But since we had a success with the terminal list, now they’re taking this risk with us, just like my publisher did. It would have been very easy as a publisher to say, hey. Just do what you did in that first book. That was successful.
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24:37
So just take that same ai of stuff and just drop it maybe internationally or something like that.
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Right.
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Instead, I had this whole journey across in the book. It’s the Atlantic. In the show, it’s gonna be the Pacific. But going across this this, this journey of violent redemption, he still thinks he’s gonna die, gets to Mozambique, still thinks he’s gonna die, doesn’t die yet, and so because he has his tumor and then uses the skills from Iraq and Afghanistan to help with the poaching problem over there.
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And then the book really this actual story kicks off from there, but I thought it was gonna be would be disingenuous to the reader to have this character that went through all the things that he went through in the terminal, all this traumatic stuff, losing his family, losing his whole troop in Afghanistan.
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And then all of a sudden, he’s okay and just out to save the world in the next book. And, so I had to take him on this journey. And I kinda thought that my my editor and publisher would say, hey. Cut out the first third of this book, and we got something here. Instead, they didn’t say any of that. And, they took this risk with me, and it really differentiated that book and me as an author.
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And now Amazon’s doing the same thing. So we have Chris Pratt going across the ocean. He’s got this crazy long hair. He lost a ton of weight for this thing. He’s, like, battling the storms and his demons and, then gets to Mozambique and same thing.
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Goes through this second episode where he’s out there doing this poacher thing, using his skills out there, and we filmed in Africa. So we got this these amazing just the landscapes. Beautiful. It’s probably one of the most beautiful, visions of Africa Ai ever seen on film. It’s just incredible.
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And Chris Chris is totally into it, of course. And the guy who got to play Rich Hastings, I don’t know if we can say his name yet, but, he’s he’s awesome. He is so good. And, so he’s kinda like the older guy kinda mentoring James Reese saloni, Chris Pratt, and, and he’s a guy’s guy. Like, he I’ll say his name. Arnold Vosloo.
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And, so he’s the bad guy from Blood Diamond and Oh, nice. And, the mummy. And, just such an awesome guy. And he’s a guy’s he’s, like, one of us. And so he didn’t need to tell him, like, what to do with the rifle. Like, he knew he knew what to do with that double rifle.
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He’s he’s not messing around. Yeah. So, so it was so fun to do that. But that is a risk that Amazon’s taking is to do those first two episodes to invest all this money in this thing where, yeah, it sai something to do with the development of the character, but not really to do with the rest of the story and him then sai the world.
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But they went along with it. And, and that’s that’s because they saw the numbers from the first from the first season. Yeah. And they’ll never share those numbers with us, but, we know what they are because ai have been, like, almost no notes in this one. Like, the first one, there was notes constantly. Like, they didn’t want Chris to get somebody.
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They were very they they didn’t want that to happen, and then we did it anyway. And they, they ended up being on every billboard in LA for the opening month. Of course. All that. They didn’t want the, the secretary of defense to die.
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They didn’t want so, there was all sorts of things that, that they they were very nervous about, but they ended up going with us. They ended up trusting us. But now we didn’t have to fight for it in the second season or in Dark Wolf because we have that trust. So that’s that’s pretty cool.
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That is nice. That’s that’s the beautiful thing about a successful series.
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Yeah.
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They leave you alone.
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Gives you more freedom.
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Don’t fuck it up. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Instead of, like, we gotta make it better because it’s not a hit, it’s don’t fuck It Up.
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Exactly. Exactly. And you had Taylor and Taylor was here a couple years ago, so what a great guy.
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Such a good dude. Exactly. He’s so cool. So so different than, like, that character he plays in American Ai Evil is so scary.
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So good.
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So good, so realistic. Like, you really believe he’s a fucking savage. Mhmm. Like, you really believe everything about the way he fucks people up, like, what he even what he looks like. Like, you talked about how much weight he lost for that. When he takes his clothes off and you see the scars all over his body, like, woah.
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Yeah. They went through it on that one. They went through it. Yeah. Pete Burrow was on was on years. He’s awesome.
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It’s ai when you see that, you’re ai, you believe that guy. Mhmm. And, like, that guy looks like someone who would be living like that back then.
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Oh, yeah. And, and he got beat up on that. He went right from that into our show where he gets beat up again. And, we had to do this show this thing in episode four where I have my cameo where I get stitched up the side and get killed. I got part of be part of the stuntman. Again? I get killed again. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got killed in true believer too, and it’s a good one.
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It’s a it’s awesome.
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People gonna see that it’s you this time? You gotta give yourself a fake nose.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s the same. It’s kinda ai a it’d be a little over kinda making a little thing about the show. Like, I always die somehow. Stephen King does? Stuff like I don’t think he dies in them, though. I think they just kinda do a
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He’s been in a bunch of his movies.
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He doesn’t die in his movies.
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It’s not Who Killed Kenny.
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Exactly. So this would be this would be a little different. Our twist on it. Our our take on it.
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That’s awesome. Yeah.
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So that that’s fun to do that stuff. But Taylor had to run through this, cobblestone these cobblestone streets through this tunnel, and that’s the one where I get to stitch up and and and fall over sai I get to a stuntman pay out of that. That might it ai, not quite a not quite a thousand dollars, I don’t think, for take taking that big fall.
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Bro, nobody works harder than stuntman.
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Seriously, those guys and girls take a freaking beating.
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They take a fucking beating.
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Do you think that That’s horrible. Episode ai, maybe maybe sai. There’s a there’s a, with, this guy and the big big dude, and, and one of the girls in the show getting this this, fight in this apartment. I don’t know if you saw that that episode, but the stunt person who got thrown into this refrigerator, oh my it was and there was, like, a tiny little pad in the refrigerator, and she just gets thrown into this thing.
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And, we try to keep every of the fights realistic, so we made a very, deliberate decision at the beginning of the terminal is not to do the John Wick ai, because you just don’t sana do John Wick ai, but not as good. You know? You don’t wanna have everything authentic and realistic and then have this choreographed, fight sequence that everyone that looks visually stunning but is not really Right.
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Realistic for anybody who’s ever been in a a ai, watched UFC, or anything like that. So we so we wanted to make sure that these things are are are primal, visceral, and, just physical and brutal. And, but it’s a smaller girl against this huge guy, so we didn’t wanna have that, like, the girl power thing, and all of a sudden people roll their eyes and say, you know, one punch from this guy, and she’s done.
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So she shoots him, like, three times before the fight as he’s rushing in on her. So, okay. We’re gonna we’re we’re gonna even this out. And still some people got upset about it online. They’re like, how could she, you know, how could she, you know, best this guy in a fight? He’s huge.
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And, well, because she shot him three times and then in the fourth time in the middle of the ai, and she takes a beating. And, but the stunt the stunt lady who did this was amazing, and she she took a beating too, especially when she got thrown into that fridge.
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God. Especially stunt women. Yeah. Yeah. That’s even harder.
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Yeah. Yeah. That was and it’s hard to watch because you’re talking to them, and then they go on set and do their thing, and you’re like, oh, But you feel like you know them now, so you feel like you just know this person that’s now getting beat up, and you’re watching from that video village, and you’re like, oh, just cringing seeing this stuff.
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Yeah. But it’s good. It came out came out fantastic.
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That’s why guys like Tom Cruise are so nuts.
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Sai crazy.
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He’s worth a billion dollars and he jumps off roofs. He jumps from rooftop to rooftop
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Yep.
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And breaks his fucking ankle. Did you ever see that? Oh, yeah. Mission pot.
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Sure.
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Shatters his ankle and then keeps running. Yeah. Keeps running.
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From fallout,
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I think. See the ankle shatter. You see the ankle hit the ai.
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Yep. And you can see him see it
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give in. You see the ankle give in. Mhmm. He’ll go that ankle’s fucked. Mhmm. And then he lands on it. He just fucking hobbles off running. Yep. And save the scene.
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Yep. Ai actually watched it on the plane back because there we did a, ai I got my flight, like, last saloni. So I was in, economy between two people. And so when I do that, I can’t work. And, so on, like, a ten hour flight, Ai decided to watch the movie. So I watched fallout again just because of that because I wanted to see if I could tell what was filmed after and what was filmed before that sequence.
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And it’s hard to tell. It’s really hard to tell how much they filmed after he shatters his ankle and limps off because you see him kinda limp off. Mhmm. But then he’s running again. Yeah. Ai like, what?
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How did
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I know.
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So yeah. That’s amazing. They probably
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just got a cortisone shah, tape it up.
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Tape it up.
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Dealt with pain.
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Let’s go.
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I don’t get it. Yeah. That’s funny. He he did that one thing where he he he, lit a parachute on fire and then had to pull a second parachute.
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And the last one.
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And it turns out that they did that scene, like, four or five times.
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Or the jumping off the cliff with the motorcycle. That was sai What the fuck? All day they did that. Maybe multiple days. I don’t know. But Oh meh god. That’s incredible.
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That’s so insane. Yeah. What kind of insurance do they have on those movies?
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I don’t think that I think he does it probably himself. He probably insures it himself. I don’t think anybody would actually insure that. I might be wrong. It’s just a guess. What a
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nut. Yeah. What a maybe Scientology works. You know what I’m saying?
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We would have fucking
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not no one’s like that guy. No. I mean, there’s no one that is that successful that takes that takes those ai of risks.
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Meh. And all the other actors say the same thing. They’re like, ai. That’s what the stunt people do.
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He’s one one of one. Yeah. You know? He gets in motorcycle races, like, he’s he does those scenes. He does car chase scenes.
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It’s pretty cool. I mean, ai does add a level of authenticity, and you go
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to it
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for that. So you can see Tom Cruise doing his own stunts. You know?
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He doesn’t
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have to
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fly a helicopter.
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Yeah. Fly the helicopter in that one, two two, three of them ago. But, that was killer too.
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Fucking crazy.
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Yeah. Yeah. Jumping out with, was it Henry Cavill and him jump out the back of the plane and fall out in there, but, yeah, they he’s jumping out of those planes and
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Legitimately. Good for him. Yeah. There he goes. His his fucking mind.
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Separated his finger joints or something in this one. Of course he did. Oh, man. It’s fantastic.
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Let’s sai we Dude, do you know how hard it is to hang? Ai Just don’t hang. I do it every day. I do a minute and thirty seconds every day. I’ve decided to try this to see, like, what it does, like, for my back, like, because it decompresses your back. And I’ve heard that if you just do it every day, it’s ai a life changer.
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Yep.
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So I’m like, okay. So I’m like meh days in now. Nice. Ten days of every day, minute thirty
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Yeah. I
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hang. At that minute and twenty, I gotta check the phone. I said, fuck.
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Oh, yeah. Now I was doing the same. So after I was here last time, we took a picture together, and I saw it. And I’m like, oh oh my gosh. I look horrible. I’m sai out of shape. And, it wasn’t the height of my out of shapeness because we I think we did that in June. By late August or, no, late July, that was about six years of not doing anything. We talked about saunas. You know, we talked about all of us.
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And I’m like, I’ve gotta do something.
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Just writing. So
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You just been writing. Been writing. It’s been so many projects, and I put myself at the bottom of my priority list, and focus on family and writing and then the screenwriting and all the other projects that are out there. And it’s it’s it’s made. I feel very fortunate for that.
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But I did get way out of shape and the worst shape of my life, and it showed in that photo that we took. I’m like, oh, look at Joe. He looks in such great shape. I’m like, god. So, August 1 or something, I’m like, alright. I’m in.
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And, I started doing the hang, of course, and then Ai have my I have this outside workout area. It’s like, ai kinda like Rocky four ai, and, so it’s right there in the mountains. And so I’m just start I’m just all in getting after him doing the sauna. We rented a place in town that, that had a had a sauna to get our kids closer to school for a year just because we’re kinda remote.
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We’re kind of up there and remote. And, so we wanted him to have our son to have the experience of riding his bike to school and all that stuff. So we rented a house, but it had an amazing sauna in it. So I was doing that exact what? Seventeen minutes thirty seconds, whatever you’re supposed to do.
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Whenever whenever I heard someone on this podcast tell me I was supposed to do, whatever you told me to do, I was doing that. And I was going outside getting, like, ten minutes of sun here, ten minutes of sun there, doing the workouts, doing the cardio stuff, doing doing all of it.
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And, I got in great. It’s probably one of the best shapes of my life. Really? I was feeling so good. I felt like I could just throw people through walls. I was not feeling so great. And, ai I was doing everything. I was doing the the sun.
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I was eating right. I was not eating the ram, so I did I did everything. And then I got to January 1, and I’m out there in the snow. I dug a path out to my thing in the gym, and I’m working out in my outside gym, doing the hangs, all that in the snow. And then I was like, oh, I think I had a deadline December 1 a month ago for this book. I’m like, Sai I gotta start writing.
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So I I’ll stop. I’ll stop, and I haven’t done anything since. Sai it’s only only writing, only screenwriting, everything. So I’m trying ai balance. I need to find that, that balance. I’m not quite there yet.
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How many hours do you write a day?
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Well, as I get closer to the as I pass these deadlines, I should say, it becomes all consuming. And it’s, especially for something like this when I’m in 1968. I mean, I really felt like I had to transport myself back to that time to write this thing. And, so that was all. As soon as I woke up, bam, I’m in, and it is all day long.
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And, so
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go to sleep.
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And, until I go to speak. Until super late, and then I’m up. Because the kids still get up at the same ai. And so I’m up, so I’m maybe an hour asleep, two hours of sleep, whatever, and then I’m out of the can, and then it’s going. So it’s not not healthy. Not healthy. So I’m gonna get on a better, a better schedule here. Our son’s going to a a boarding school now.
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Our daughter’s in college. We have our middle child with a severe special needs, so he’s still at home with us. He’ll be with us forever, and he’s a sweet sweet little guy. But, but it that, I think, will give me a little more time to maybe find some balance with the health and the writing.
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Right. So I
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need to do that at some point. But, typically, a lot of writers aren’t very especially the older ones, from back in the day, they’re not, not the healthiest of individuals.
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The opposite. Yeah. I mean, we’ve talked about it a bunch of times in this podcast, but my favorite Stephen King books were all when he was doing coke.
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He doesn’t even remember writing a couple of them.
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Right? No. If that was his friend, I’d get him to do coke again.
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I I tell my publisher that. I’m like, I feel like I need to, to to do some of that, just to get this to get this done. I need to take a turn here.
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A lot of guys uses Adderall. Yeah. A lot of writers use Adderall. Yeah. A lot of all journalists use Adderall as well.
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Yeah.
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And I think also that makes them, like, a little more impulsive. Their work gets sai little aggressive. Yeah. Like you kinda sai, especially journalists when they get real shitty, ai, oh, I probably on Adderall.
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36:58
Oh, interesting. Just I
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think it contributes to the culture of journalism in the modern era with this, sort of, like, really shitty
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Yeah.
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Attack journalism that’s become very prevalent. I I don’t think it’s a small factor. I think, Adderall consumption has it plays a a factor in that. It Ai sure it does. It changes something. And social media, of course.
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It changes something. Yeah. Sai Nicotine does it. Nicotine is, has been very helpful for authors. Nicotine’s great. Yeah. Yeah. From what I understand.
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Do you use cigars or do you do, like, pouches? What do
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you do? I don’t do anything.
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Don’t do
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anything. Coffee. Caffeine? Nope. Coffee and, and coffee, water, red wine, whiskey. But not too much.
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Whiskey inspiration.
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Yeah. But not too meh. You know, just a just a A
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little bit every now and again.
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Yeah. Yeah. Nothing too crazy.
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Just to say fuck it. It.
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Yeah. Just I feel like it I should be doing something like that, but not, not too much. I mean, having my I built a ai, and at one side of it was a arya, and I never got to touch anything because at at book signings, people bring me a lot of, a lot of whiskey. Mhmm. And, so I I have it in my bags or I sai it from the road or whatever.
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And, so I have this whole wall of whiskey, and other stuff too. But I never get to partake in it because I’m always writing. I’m always like, I could pour something, but now I gotta this is my time. It’s quiet. I’m not being interrupted. Go. Go. Go.
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And it’s just, it’s just all on. So I haven’t used any performance in half enhancing supplements. I need to do some, like, Alpha Brain or something probably.
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That helps.
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Something like that. Alpha brain
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is great. There’s a alpha brain black label that’s a new one. That’s a stronger version of alpha brain. I think we have some. I’ll give you some ai. We also have alpha brain gummies. Do we have any on
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the label?
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No. Ai. I probably should I Ai eat those things like candy. But, there’s a bunch of really good nootropics that you should look into. Another one is, NeuroGum. We have some of that stuff. Ai like that because, it’s just it tastes good, it’s gum, and it it gives you a little nootropic boost.
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But I understand why ai do that.
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Creatine is another great one. Yep. And creatine is really great for people with sleep deprivation.
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Oh, really?
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Yes.
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Ai was using that, so I did some supplements, when I started working out again. I I stopped it when I stopped working out, but, I think I was doing that. Was it torn? Is that the one you see on the UFC map? Sure.
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Yeah. So I
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was doing that. Yeah. So I was using that their creatine and, some just just some ai. One, like,
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a lot though. Ai, people are taking five grams a day. You really sana, like, twenty grams a day. And, particularly when people are dealing with sleep deprivation. Uh-huh. It also, for some reason, has ai pretty great benefits, more so even for women, and sleep deprivation. There’s been a bunch of different studies sana, but it’s been in terms of cognitive performance after sleep deprivation and reaction time after sleep deprivation.
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Both of those things fall off.
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Yeah.
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And there’s a noticeable rise in improvement with creatine.
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Yeah. So I don’t think I was taking I was taking one scoop. Whatever it says on the bottle. Yeah. I was taking one scoop, whatever that
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It says five I probably bet it’s five grams. Sai do four of those scoops.
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Oh, really? Okay. Well, when I get back after this and see myself on our photo today, I will, get back to, I’ll ai I’ll use four scoops.
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Well, it’ll it’ll definitely make your muscles a little stronger and larger, but the reason I’m doing it is not just for that. It’s for the brain. It’s really good
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for the brain. Well, I was getting sleep during that time too, which is why I didn’t have a book on ai. One of one of the reasons. One of those going back to 1968, took a lot longer than I thought for this research. And then two, I was getting in shape at the same time.
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So listening to, like, 1968 music back then? And, like, what did how are you
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doing it? Music. I did a playlist for it, put it on, Spotify. So I was doing that. I was watching the Vietnam documentaries. I was reading everything I could possibly find on Vietnam from the day. These old arya special forces manuals that they had before the guys would go over there, that talked about the Montagnard tribes they were gonna be working with.
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For those that are watching or listening, it’s ai, Apocalypse Now, like the Montagnards, like ai, and all that stuff. So I was doing that. And, then I’ll then I was reading the more modern stuff too. I was reading things from the seventies, eighties. I ai, National Geographic magazines from the sixties.
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I think there’s one from the late fifties even. So I was doing everything I possibly could to transport myself back. Listen to some history history podcasts about, JFK, about, about Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, things that were happening here, about the election, Nixon’s elections, everything that was happening in 1968.
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I was just trying to immerse myself in that world, so that when I sat down to this, I didn’t have to do a huge shift. And it would be it was already had this I was building on this foundation, river foundation I already had as then I sat down in front of the computer to write rather than watching something here contemporary, getting all upset about something that x is feeding me to keep me in rage, and then, then trying to jump back to 1968.
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Instead, I just, like, transported myself back there for, ai felt like months at a time.
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That’s probably healthier anyway. I think
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it’s much healthier. Much I think so. I think it was, a much healthier way to live in general. So
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Yeah. Just live in the past, folks.
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That’s what I’m trying to do.
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Today’s too fucking confusing.
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It is.
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Just go live in the past.
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I mean, Ai I’d love to go back. I I know I can’t though, but, but I still try to go back to my vehicles, through movies, through things like that. Right. Right. I did I I tried to get two modern vehicles. Had to turn them back in.
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I know you were telling
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me you
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got a Grenadier.
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I did a Grenadier.
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And Yeah.
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And I was so excited to get it. I think I was the first person in Utah to get one, at least they told me I was anyway. And I got this thing. I was so excited. And this is not a hit on on Enos Grenadiers. This is a hit on me not being able to adapt to a, to to the current times.
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It’s a great vehicle. It’s
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sai Ai was fast.
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They let me borrow one for a few months.
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Yeah.
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It’s a if you’re looking for an off road vehicle that’s, like, fully outfitted from the factory, you could do no better.
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It was awesome. I mean, it, I did of course, I put every possible thing you could put on there. Right. So I’m, like, I don’t have time. I’m, like, put everything on that for me. Just do the whole thing, and so they did. And, it showed up. I was so excited for it, and then it started beeping at me, you know? Uh-huh. And it was I’m like, ah.
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That’s that’s my complaint. It beeps when you go one mile an hour, just a few miles an hour over the speed limit.
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Yes.
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I don’t like that. I don’t like where the speedometer is in the it’s in the screen.
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Yeah. It takes a look.
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Sai there’s no dashboard in front of you. There’s no, like, speedometer attack. It’s not in front of you. You just see numbers to the right. So you have to look over the right to see how fast you’re going, which is why they justify the beep. So it makes you look over to let you know, like, oh, look, you’re going see the beep. Oh, look. Let me look.
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I don’t wanna look to the right at a screen ever if I don’t have to. Yeah. I wanna look at it only if I’m following directions
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Mhmm.
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And that’s it.
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I know.
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I want my fucking speedometer right in front of me.
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I know. It’s fast though. You hammered that thing. It was fast. I mean, you have some faster cars than I do.
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It’s capable. And it’s really capable off road. Like, if you drive that thing and it’s fucking built like a tank.
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It is like a tank.
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If you look at ai an like the the idea was that they copied, a Land Rover Defender, which they definitely did. But if you look at a Land Rover Defender, shut the doors on those things, they feel like shit. It feels like it’s made of a a Pepsi ram. It’s amazing. It’s their their aluminum fact those those are ai agriculture vehicles. Those are not vehicles for ai rugged travel. Yeah. That’s a g Wagon.
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A g Wagon is like a that was designed for military applications. It’s a fucking ram speak. I don’t know if it’s stamp steel. Whatever. They’re steel heavy fucking doors.
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When you shut those doors ai, and that’s how the Grand Deere is. Ram Deere is like heavy. Yeah. It’s like thick. It’s like a very durable vehicle.
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I feel like a lot of Aussies love them because you can kind of just get right from the factory and, you know, a lot of those guys like to go off road and Oh, yeah. You could get your factory, setting in the back where it’s got all the electrical and everything. So you could set up a stove,
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you could
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set up a a little refrigerator back there. It’s all plugged in, ready to go. Mhmm.
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I love I mean, that I love all that stuff. And it’s, it’s like what do they say? It’s like a Defender one ten and a G Wagon had a baby for the Ecole Grenadier?
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I would say
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that’s true. That’s kinda true. So it’s
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ai the sides where you can put all the jerry cans and everything. It’s all set up to mount that
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stuff on it. Right? I got it all set up, man. I was so excited.
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Pretty dope.
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And then I called them. I was like, hey. Can I get rid of this click? And they said, yep. And they walked me through the thing, and Ai whatever I this is why I don’t sana have an iPad. I I there’s I just want a car. Right. I don’t wanna drive a computer. Right. And, so I’m in there. I turn it off, and, I’m like, oh, thank you so much. I’m driving.
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I’m like, oh, it’s not doing the clicking anymore. I stop. I get out. I go in and do something. I get back in the car.
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Immediately, it’s back on again. Click ai click click click I’m like, ai. I’m like, we’re getting rid of this. I’m like, so my wife I’m like, get let’s get rid of this thing.
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Well, you’re awesome. Old Land Cruiser guy. Yeah. Yeah. The problem is those cars have a charm. Yeah. There’s a charm to those old Land Cruisers, especially the one that you have, the 60 series. Yeah.
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Yeah. If
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you drive one of those things, man, it’s like that feels like you’re involved in every part of the driving.
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It is. I love it. I feel the ai machine.
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Yeah. It’s like Yeah. Yeah.
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You know? I love
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it. Yeah. You have a v eight in it too, which is ai so you got modern power, LS v eight.
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Yep. LS three is in there, so that’s nice.
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But that has thick doors too. Much thicker than the eighties. Yeah.
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And I do have a meh theater, but Yeah.
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Much thicker, but thicker.
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I like the 80 series. I have two eighty series now, both stock, 96. And I love those because they’re just modern enough, but they’re Mhmm. They need someone to do a little work on. They make some strange noises, but they they work. But they, my my son, like, pick him up in school in it, and he’s like, oh, dad. Because they’re still faking this crazy.
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It’s almost like it’s the it’s going over the speed limit thing, but it’s constant. So it’s Some of them are
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fucking hundreds of thousands of miles.
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Yeah. These have over a 100, both of them. But, so I love that. And I have a 78FJ40 that I love. Oh. So that’s pretty I Ai love that one, and it’s, it’s all completely restored. So it’s all That’s all original for the most part. Original? Yep. Yeah.
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So does that Fun
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getting on the highway with that thing, isn’t it?
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Yeah. You go about 40 miles an hour tops. Tops. I mean, you’re in that slow lane. Slow. Meh. So slow. It’s so slow. But it’s cool for zipping around town. I love that. And then
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I get ai to make you one of those.
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I know it’s on the list.
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It’s on the list.
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Sai, of course, I’m
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making one of them beasts that they make because they they make them with the giant v eights in them. Yeah.
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They do some serious work.
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That’s fun. Yeah.
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So I’m I’m thinking I’m a Land Cruiser ai, and I tested out that, you know, this didn’t work out for me, but that’s not to say that they won’t work out for someone else. They’re awesome vehicles. And if you’re a modern type person, I get one for sure.
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If you’re into that style of, like, Defender looking car, but you don’t want all the bullshit that comes with owning a Defender Yeah. Either get a refurbished one, like Ai Coast Defenders does a great job. They’ll put a big engine in it and do it ai. But Yeah.
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There’s a bunch of them now that do that.
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The Granadiers are great solution. I think they’re gonna come out with a new one, that has, more horsepower and they’ll probably improve some things. Yeah. Would like them just give me a fucking dashboard. Yeah. Is that not so hard? I mean,
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they’re doing everything else old school.
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You have all these buttons and everything is all fucking all old school looking like a jet fighter pilot. Yeah. Well, the lock is ai.
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Sai know.
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Give me a fucking speedometer. Just a regular speedometer and attack. Put it right in front of me. Thank you.
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47:12
And also make the lights so that the the auxiliary lights will turn on when it’s not in the off road mode. If I don’t know if you tried that, but they’re the auxiliary lights. They, except for the light bar on the top, but the other ones in the front, like, you have to be in off road mode for some legal reason.
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So you have to I mean, sure someone can bypass it somehow. But when I come up to our house, there’s no there’s no ai, and it’s a long drive up there into the mountains. And I just wanna hit the switch and have just daylight in front of meh. And, that was not possible without
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I got my Land Cruiser sai up where if I was in a dark field, you would think a UFO landed. Ai.
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47:40
And yours is a 100 series. Right? Is that the No.
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I have an 80.
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Here’s the 80 that’s okay.
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Yeah. I kinda built me that one. Yeah. Yeah. It was TLC at the time. Yeah. But they they put bars all around it.
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Ai think sick.
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Bar and bars in the back. Sai, like, you could park and, like, light up
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47:52
the perimeter. That’s what I want. I want daylight. It’s awesome. And then
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you put a tent on the roof, and you’re out there in nature.
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47:58
Ai love it. I love it. I did drive in a I drove a, G Wagon yesterday. So we landed went right to Staccato. And, so they had a, a a portion of G Wagon right there. And I was like, oh, man. I was I’m I’m I think my wife’s telling me I need to get something more modern that’s gonna be reliable. We’re not gonna just break down all the time.
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And, and so I’m ai they said, well, drive it. Ai this thing. And so I got in it. It was, like, a 2016, so it was before some changes, I guess, were made. Mhmm. And, I think it was nice.
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Yeah. So 2016 would have two live axles. I think, they got independent front suspension later. Yeah. I think that was like the 2022 or something like that. They started doing that. But Ai
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48:32
I still can’t do it. It’s too too LA, too Kardashian. Yeah.
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It’s very Kardashian. But the reality of it is it’s a it’s a military vehicle.
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48:40
Yeah.
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The thing about g saloni though is people do take them and then they build them out for off road. Ai. I’ve seen the dumpsters. Ai it with, like, the AMG turbo Right. Ai. Right. But the regular one is a v eight anyway. It’s got plenty
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of power. I
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like the old ones. Yeah. But you can you can get one of those old ones and people have done
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48:58
amazing
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builds where they put ai large tires on them, they raise it up a little bit, and they put like strong steel bumpers and Mhmm. Like rock sliders on the side and, you know, it’s a beast of a truck.
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I’ll probably need something new at some point. Something newer at some point.
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Yeah. Because the really ai, ram military application.
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Yeah. The new the new Land Cruiser, I’m not quite, quite there. Yeah. I like the old stuff, you know, like the the newer ones. Ai mean, they’re they’re probably great. But The
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new new one is, like, really more modest. Yeah.
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Yeah. It is. Yeah. They drop the price on them.
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It’s not like what they were getting to, which is basically, like Trying
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to compete with Range Rover.
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But they’re also fucking themselves because they have Lexus. Yeah. Yeah. And Lexus is, like, the best version of that.
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49:41
Right. Those is it the five fifty g x? What was the new one that they have?
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The new ones are 600, I think it’s called. Well, did they have the smaller one, which is more ai Land Cruiser ai, like 80 series size, and they have the larger one.
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Okay.
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I I had three of the larger ones. This five seventies, I had three of those.
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Yeah. There’s there’s
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because they never break.
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They
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were ai my favorite family car to drive around and it’s awesome four wheel drive. They’re great in snow and anything else, and they fucking always work.
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Yep. Always work. Yep. Yeah. Hard to get that.
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Toyota is so good.
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I know.
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They’re so reliable.
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I know. The guys got over to Africa to start filming this thing in, we got there in February or March. Anyway, we went over there, and, the the advanced crew went over first to get everything set up. And then Chris and I came over a little bit tyler, and when everything was all set up, but the guys were texting back after they were doing all the, the the advanced work for the different places we’re gonna go shoot.
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50:29
And they’re like, now we understand your obsession with the Land Cruiser. Yeah. They’re all driving Land Cruisers in Africa.
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Oh, yeah. Once you get over to any rough place and you realize, like, oh, you want a car that 100% is gonna work for
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you. Yeah.
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Yeah. There’s a reason why they became so popular. It’s not it’s not a mystery.
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Yeah. Yeah. Sai thing. It’s like the is that a Seiko? Yeah. Nice. It’s like they said that’s the Toyota of watches. Nice. That’s the Willard.
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That’s the one that Captain Willard wore and I’m ai books now.
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Absolutely. Which I think came out original. I do too. I have
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an original. I have a 1971, I think it is. ’70 or ’71.
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Okay. Yeah. I collected all the, the SOG Seikos because this is Mac V. SOG. So I collected all those. I think there’s four of them that, that they’ve, they’ve seen pictures of Mac V. SOG guys wearing going into Laos, Cambodia, North Vietnam, which is what the book is, is focused on.
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So not only did I try to transport myself back by listening to all these things, but I had the watch right there. Like, this is 1968, Rolex, ai, a very fast. So so I got that thing, the Submariner. So I surrounded myself with things that are, like, totems from the book. So this is what, Tom Reesen I ai a a cool way that he wins this.
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How’d you get a ’68? Where’d you find that? Did you have it online?
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51:34
Buddy of mine who’s a Rolex dealer out in, in PA found it for me.
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Wow. Wow. That’s fucking cool.
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Yeah. So I like the I like the older stuff now I’m finding.
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Crazy. It looks exactly the same.
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Yeah. Pretty much. I mean, there’s little bit of the, the crystal’s different and stuff like ai. But the the aluminum’s different, that sort of thing. But It used
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to be a utility watch. It used to be that used to be a tool watch
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Yep.
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Which is crazy because you think of them today as being luxury.
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Yep.
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But the reason why they were built so well was just for you to use them diving.
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Yep.
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It’s actually a watch that people would dive with.
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Exactly. And I’ll see where something like this or like that, then people, like, watch people know. They’ll see it and be ai, oh, okay. It’s not like just some guy that went out and bought an expensive watch. They’re like, okay. If someone put a lot of thought into this, like you were in the Willard and me having those MacVie SOGS and this one from 1968, it’s, it it it tells you put a little more thought into this sort of thing than, like, just what’s an expensive watch or something saloni those lines.
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But, but Ai yeah. I mean, this tyler a story.
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Yeah. It’s pretty dope.
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And, it’s
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It’s pretty thin too.
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Yeah. It’s a little thinner than I than I thought when it came, though. And the band’s a little different. It kinda Mhmm. Makes some sick, some noise there, but I I love this. And so it’s these are the Tudors that guys were wearing back in Vietnam, the SEALs in particular. Oh.
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52:41
The Tudor Submariner.
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Right.
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So I got one of those recently. I’ve been wanting to get one for years because when I got to the SEAL teams, they were this is a rumor, so I never saw it with my own ai. But, so it’s secondhand information, is that they’re in supply. They were destroying the Tudors with hammers. And I can’t then because now we’re getting issued SECOs.
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And so they’d issued these to the guys that actually jumped in to get the Apollo spacecraft. SEALs jumped in after those things, UDT SEALs, to get those guys out of the water. And, and, these people in supply, I think in the the nineties, were destroying the Tudors for some reason, probably because they were told to, so guys wouldn’t get them and sell them or something like that.
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I don’t know. But, but I did ram one down recently through the through, Watches of Espionage. And, he he found me a new tutor in an earth an old tutor. But I got that, and then we did a little documentary with some old guys from, the seventies, from in the sixties that were SEALs in in Vietnam, and they were pulled out of Vietnam.
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They were in Vietnam one day. And then the next day, they were off the in the Pacific on an aircraft carrier waiting to recover the, the Apollo astronauts. Woah. Yeah. Pretty cool. We did a documentary on it for for Tyler, and, it was it was pretty cool to talk to those guys. I mean, just just amazing.
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53:45
Because now they’re they’re taking lives in Vietnam, and then they’re supposed to now they’re just thrown into this this these helicopters to jump into the ocean to save lives. It’s kind of a cool juxtaposition.
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Yeah. For sure. It is interesting that their their equipment became luxury.
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53:57
Yeah. Weird. Well, you can go back. I love these old ads, Rolex ads from it must be the ‘6 I think they’re sixties, seventies, eighties. I mean, there’s some from the early eighties where they have a guy, like, with a rhino, and it’s ai the editor of Guns and Ammo magazine with his dead rhino wears a Rolex.
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54:11
And they had at least yeah. They had, like, two of those types of ads back then. I don’t like to acknowledge that today, I don’t think, the Rolex.
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54:17
Yeah. Ai kill rhinos.
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54:18
But, but they had but that was, like, in the early eighties. That’s what they’re they were still marketing towards that. Sai, yeah, it really cool.
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54:24
Still rugged. Mhmm. Well, think about didn’t James Bond always have a Rolex?
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54:27
There we go.
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54:27
If you’re looking for Lost Ai here tomorrow, you’d wear a Rolex.
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54:31
There’s one.
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54:32
Wow. There’s one. That’s crazy.
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54:34
But you gotta find the one with the Rhino.
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54:35
Well, there’s there’s so fucking dependable.
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54:38
Yeah. Frederick Forsyth, the author, actually had one. They used to do they used to do had a relationship with him in the seventies and eighties. And they’re like, here’s Frederick Forsyth who wrote Day of the Jackal wearing his Vatsal coat, in front of this Ai. And, it’s just you never see that today. Yeah.
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54:52
But there it is. Yeah. There you go.
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54:53
If taming oil wildfires were your job, you’d wear a Rolex. Isn’t that crazy? What?
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54:58
Yep. Let’s see if we can find the, find the hunting one. I mean, Rolex hunting or something. But they’re just
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55:04
Look at that. It’s racing here. Like, it’s for anybody that’s doing anything difficult. Yeah. Yeah. It’s kinda crazy.
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55:10
And now it’s now it’s tennis and it’s golf. That’s
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55:13
Well, now it’s just, like, you know, looking fancy at
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55:15
a restaurant over there. Here we go. There’s Connery right there, the Thunderball action. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Fleming had one. They he doesn’t say which specific model it is in the books. Of course, Omega sponsored the the the movie starting with Bronson, I think. But, but in the books, it’s a Rolex. Mhmm. He doesn’t say what specific model, but he wore it, I think, with Fleming or an Explorer, I think.
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55:36
There it is. That’s,
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55:37
up. There you go.
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55:38
If you hunted big game over the world, Cape Buffalo.
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55:40
There’s Cape Buffalo right ai
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55:41
the Rolex.
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55:42
Yep. Wow. Pretty cool.
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55:44
Weird.
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55:45
Yeah. They don’t do that today.
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55:46
Just weird that that became it went from being ai this manly super durable thing through, like, when did people really start getting into watches and collecting them, and when did it become, like, a fetish?
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55:57
Must be the eighties. Yeah? Must be the eighties, I would guess. I mean, I think it’s always been a thing because you can go back and find, like, amazing, Patek Philippes and stuff like that. Mhmm. Go back find the Omegas, the old Rolexes, and it’s a thing. So, it’s But now
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56:08
it’s kind of nuts.
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56:09
Yeah. Now it’s gotten a little little crazy, which why I like the vintage stuff because it fits a little more just like the ai. Just like, it’s my time machine.
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56:15
Now when people have, like, those Richard Millet watches and
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56:18
you hear
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they’re half a million dollars, like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Why are you buying that? Yeah. Like, what’s going on here that I’m missing?
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56:25
That’s an amazing story. The guy ai got that then it’s not like that has a huge history to it. It’s fairly recent for Yeah. Those watches.
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56:30
Do you know what the rumor is? Mhmm. The rumor is that one of the first watches that he was supposed to sell was supposed to be $15,000, but someone put an extra zero on it.
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56:38
No way. Really? This is
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what someone told me.
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56:40
Meh. Let’s go with it. It might not be true.
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56:41
Hey. And then people bought it. It’s like, ai, hey, hey.
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56:45
Let’s try 300. Sometimes that’s how it works.
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56:47
I mean, people love the watches. It’s a beautiful if you’re into that style of watch.
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56:51
Yeah. Yeah.
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56:52
I like simple. Yeah. That’s what I like. I like this is why I like the Seiko. Nobody gives a shit about it. It’s not impressing anybody.
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56:58
Well, if you know.
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If you know. But it’s ai, it’s a really well made watch. It’ll never fuck up. It’s got I think it’s got a fifty two hour time reserve.
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57:06
Yeah. Yeah. Sai love that stuff. We’re very intentional with all all the gear in the TV shows.
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57:09
I know you are. Yeah.
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57:10
It’s, and And
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your books as well. Yeah.
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57:12
And the books as well. So it tells a story.
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57:13
You know,
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57:14
you see somebody with that, that tells something that tells me something about you. You see something with the the Richard Mill, whatever you say. We shot the machine
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57:20
name. Think it is. It probably is Richard Mille, but it’s like dang it.
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57:24
So When you add another zero, then then it goes to like Joe Dorte. You know? Yeah. Exactly. So it it changes things a little bit. So Yeah. But that’s it tells me a story just like, like the characters in the books. But the watches in particular are important. One, because it’s important to to me as a watch guy my whole life. For some reason, I just have this connection with with time and the value of time.
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57:43
And so I’ve always been a watch guy my whole my whole life. And, so putting these watches on characters that tell you something about that character, like in Dark Wolf, they have to get rid of their g shah and go get something that would make look a little more European. And, for when they transition over from being these speak guys to being these CIA operatives and, dropped get rid of the gators.
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58:01
And we said, get rid of the gators, get some sunglasses, get some expensive watches, that sort of thing. But I still wanted something that had a connection to the SEAL team. So, picked a tutor for, for Taylor Kitsch’s character, and, I got that one. I got to keep that one. So that was that was pretty cool.
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58:14
And then put a Ai on, on Rafe Hastings, Tom Hopper’s character, to differentiate him a bit from, from, Ben Edwards, the Taylor Kitsch character. But and, also, Tom’s a big dude, so you need a big watch on that guy. Right. He’s huge. He is huge. Oh, sure.
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58:28
Sai think all the all the like, my wife and her friends were so excited about Taylor being in the show because the Texas forever, you know, and they were all coming up during that time frame where he’s in front of that lights and all that stuff. And then, then Tom Hopper gets out of the pool without a shirt on. They’re like, oh, Tom Hopper. Oh my god. It is.
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58:45
And so I told Tom that probably if we do Savage Sai as a, as a movie, he’s probably not gonna have his shirt on much in there. So gotta expand the audience. Gotta expand the audience.
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58:53
We gotta sell streamers. Exactly. Exactly.
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58:56
But he’s such a good dude.
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58:57
That’s awesome. Yeah.
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58:57
All those guys are great.
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58:58
It’s awesome. What is it ai, like, having this thing that you sat down by yourself, this world that you created, and now you’re you’re not just selling books, but you’re filming
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59:09
Yeah.
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59:09
The visual representation of your work. It’s gotta be kinda surreal.
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59:13
It is surreal. Every time I walk on to set, I feel that way. I feel as grateful for the most part. I feel so much gratitude, towards everyone involved. And, of course, the people who made it happen, most specifically Chris, because if Chris didn’t wanna do it, didn’t want option it, probably wouldn’t happen. Ai wouldn’t have happened.
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59:26
We wouldn’t be on this journey together, and he’s so invested in it. And you mentioned some other shows earlier, and there’s just there’s a a difference between an actor who gets paid to do something, does it, and moves on to the next project, and somebody like Chris who is so invested in this.
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59:38
And I think the other actors see that, and Tyler just like this by nature. Like, American Ai, any role Taylor takes on, he is just so invested in it. It’s not just a paycheck. Like, it is it’s gonna now become part of his experience.
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59:50
Yeah.
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59:50
And, and he really looks at it through that through that kind of a lens. So to have guys like that involved that are so personally connected to the material and also to the community, ai, the veteran community at large, it means something to them. And so they put so much into it. So when I walk on set, it it is surreal.
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01:00:07
And to know that everybody is and people come up to me all the time on set and thank me for creating this universe allowing them to be there. But not just that they can be there working on a set, it’s that we have created mostly through Chris, Antoine Fuqua, David Diglio, all these guys in the top.
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01:00:22
David Diglio is the show runner. And to build this family. And people come up to me all the ai, and they say that they’ve been involved in hundreds of Hollywood productions, and they’ve never felt this way on a set before. And that’s because you’re filming these things for seven, eight months. And that doesn’t count all the all the work that goes into the scripts ahead of time Mhmm.
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01:00:38
And all the post production. So just being on set. And so during that time, people are gonna, get married, get divorced, lose loved ones. All life is gonna happen. And David DeGiglio, in particular, is a showrunner. He makes sure that everyone is taken care of. And, we’re also bringing people along with us.
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01:00:55
So if they’re in a department, this this season, they’re gonna move their way up in that department next season. So it’s, they really feel taken care of, and it’s all genuine. And I think that helps bring their everybody bring their a game. And everyone is so happy to be there on these sets. It’s really cool.
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01:01:08
And people tell me how different they they wanna make sure that I know that it’s not like this on every Hollywood production.
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01:01:13
That’s cool. Yeah. That’s gotta feel great.
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01:01:15
That’s cool. I it is. And, I meh, but wrap party
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01:01:18
down from the top.
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01:01:19
Yeah. You know? Comes out comes out from the top for sure. And you meh the ram party. People these guys hang out after. Like, all the actors hang out afterward. The cast, the crew, everybody’s hanging out after hours. They’re not just turning into ghosts. They’re hanging out, having a great time.
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01:01:33
Wrap party, like, I’ve heard that a lot of the the, like, number one on the call sheets, maybe they’ll make a quick appearance and leave or something like that. Mhmm. And Chris is there. He’s in it. He’s having a great time. Everyone’s thanking everybody, and such a such a great guy.
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01:01:45
He’s a very normal guy. Totally. For a movie star, he’s oddly normal.
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01:01:49
Yep. Yeah. He’s a normal ai, like, I mean, just like us. We we speak time with him, you know, outside of anything. Well, I
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01:01:54
hung out with him in hunting camp.
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01:01:55
Yeah. Yeah. You know, we we’re there. Together.
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01:01:57
So it was ai, he just hangs out with everybody. He was, like, so cool. Yeah. So normal. Yeah. You know, for a movie shah. Yeah. Just be chilling.
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01:02:04
Such a great guy. We, we we’ve, like, speaking of Tom Cruise and all the stunts, so the last thing that we filmed in Morocco was underwater sequences. So it was was not filmed linear in a linear style. So from so it’s from the first episode. So it’s Chris falling off the boat and being underwater.
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01:02:19
And he’s on in this pool underwater, not a stunt double. We had some stunt double do some falls and stuff like that. Chris Ram, who’s awesome, looks like Chris, takes some crazy beatings. He’s amazing. And he’s a huge dude. He could just stand right here and do a back flip.
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01:02:31
Like, it’s it’s insane. The guy’s a huge dude. It’s it’s awesome, and such a nice guy too. But, Chris underwater, like and you can have this underwater, like, communication system. They’re like, alright. Ready? Three, two, one. Action.
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01:02:42
And he takes up the thing from a regulator, and then it goes away, and then we’re filming. And he was under there for, like, three plus minutes holding his breath doing this stuff. Yeah. And for anyone who’s tried to hold their breath for three minutes, that’s that’s serious.
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01:02:54
For three minutes just sitting
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01:02:56
still is hard. But underwater. And we’re like nuts. And we’re watching this thing. We’re like, is he okay? And now he’s just showing off. Sai certain point, we’re like, cut. He stays down there. Like, what? Like, he’s just now he’s just showing off at this point. Did he play a big boy? That?
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01:03:08
I think he’s just a bit ram wrestling and from all this other stuff, breath control stuff. He’s such an athlete, that I think it was just kind of natural. I don’t think he was prepping for it. I think he just did it. And, but it looks so good. It looks crazy.
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01:03:19
All the stuff that he gave us down there is amazing. And that’s how we finished up the shah, just to finish that, all the cast and crew around at night, all the lights, the underwater stuff, Chris getting yanked out of the water, and then that was the end, and we went right to the party from there.
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01:03:30
So
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01:03:30
That’s awesome. Yeah.
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01:03:31
Yeah. And we had to talk about the future of the show. We stayed up pretty late, and, and me and Chris and the showrunner and Jared Shaw, who you met when we were hunting that ai.
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01:03:39
Mhmm.
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01:03:39
We gave Chris the book, former Speak buddy of ai, And, hence, we all had to talk about the future of the show. So, hopefully, it’s, Savage Sun next. And that’s people’s favorite, I think, of the books. That and Red Sky Morning, the last one. And and mine is this one. Everyone has been my favorite thus far.
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01:03:54
But,
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01:03:55
This Vietnam book’s your favorite book you’ve written?
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01:03:57
Yep. Hands down. One, because how much I put into it. One, I wanna get better with everything. Ai book, I think it’s gotten better as I go along. And if I can say that truthfully to myself, then, I feel like I’m doing doing my job and doing ai the service to the story, which in turn serves the reader.
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01:04:12
People who are trusting me with this time that they’re never gonna get back.
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01:04:14
Well, it’s like every other skill. Right? The more time you invest in it and the more you hone it and the more Meh. It should be getting better. Attention. Yeah. It has to.
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01:04:22
It should be getting better.
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01:04:23
It has to. You have to get better. Yeah. Because you can tell when people start phoning it in. You can tell. You know, they’re not enthusiastic anymore. And
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01:04:31
Yep. And this I mean, like, there’s a lot of pressure from publishers also to get things in on time because now I sell, like, maybe at the beginning, it didn’t matter. But at this stage, it it matters because of the number of books that are being sold. Sai they need to and it’s a business.
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01:04:43
And so they need to make their their numbers. Mhmm. And so as a creative person, they are putting a lot of pressure to to get get it done. Just get it done. And, and I have to fend it off. I have to, like, ai, hey.
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01:04:53
Whatever pressure is put on me from the outside, I’ve gotta focus on this story, and it’s gonna be done when it’s done because it has to be the best that it can possibly be. And, but that’s a lot that’s a lot of pressure coming in from the ai, and you have to fend it off. But I can see, you know, how if you’re Ai can see it being very easy to just say, okay. I got to a 100,000 words.
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01:05:08
I gotta wrap this thing up. Right. And I’ll never I’ll never do that. My readers mean too much to me. The story means too much to me.
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01:05:14
This profession means too much for me to ever do something like that.
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01:05:17
How many what is the percentage of audiobooks versus hard hard copy?
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01:05:21
A lot more audio. Really? A lot more.
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01:05:23
Like, how much more?
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01:05:24
I don’t know because I don’t look at the numbers. I’m not a business guy. I’m more of an entrepreneurial type of ai. So just knowing that Simon and Schuster is incredibly happy across the board. So these the hardback sell tell you? They they do have numbers. Yeah. And they share them, and I just see numbers. And but I couldn’t tell you exactly.
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01:05:36
But it’s
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01:05:37
a lot more. Yeah. It’s a lot
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01:05:38
more interesting.
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01:05:39
And I think that’s Ray Porter. I mean, incredible.
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01:05:42
He’s really good.
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01:05:42
Fantastic. Such a good human being too. We use his voice in, in Darkwill for those those listening. They’ll, they’ll be able to recognize his voice there.
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01:05:49
Skill to be able to do all those different voices and accents and then and not have it jarring that a man is playing a woman.
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01:05:57
Yep. You know,
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01:05:57
which is weird because he plays he’s gotta play a woman’s voice.
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01:06:00
That’s a tough one for any guy.
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01:06:01
Ai fucking weird. Yeah. You know, it’s because you have to kinda ai there’s a suspension of disbelief. Yeah. Yeah. You know, in the in the real world. Hey, fuck off. That’s not a chick.
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01:06:09
Right. You know,
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01:06:10
if you got a phone call from a lady
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01:06:12
Right. Yeah. So where
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01:06:12
are we gonna meet? Yeah.
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01:06:13
Wait a
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01:06:13
second. At the barbershop. Like, what what
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01:06:16
Call that a clue.
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01:06:17
What fuck’s going on?
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01:06:18
Yeah. Call that call that a clue. Yeah. You should probably listen to it, unless you’re looking for it, I guess.
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01:06:22
His girl voice is oddly believable. Yeah. I mean, I don’t
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01:06:25
I can only be else who can do it do it better. That’s a that’s a tough one. That’s a tough position to put a person in.
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01:06:29
Like, ai. Do this yeah. It’s like Rafe Saloni.
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01:06:31
Oh ai gosh. I gave him a tough one in this one too. I have a guy who’s actually based on a real person. In the book he lives, in real life he died in, I think, 1965. But it was a, a Finnish officer who, got the, whatever the Finnish cross is. It’s in the book. I forget exactly what it is. But then he fought for the Germans and got, like, the German Manheim cross or something.
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01:06:50
And then after World War two, they tried to grab a bunch of people who had experience in, essentially, Eastern Europe to bring over to our military so that we would have experience if we went to war with the Soviets. And sai they brought all these guys in into the military, and so then he gets a bronze star in the United States military arya special forces.
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01:07:07
His helicopter went down. I think it was 1965, but he was part of MACV Sai. So I fictionalized his character in here. So I had to give those three so I have to have so Finnish, German, and English ai of a morph, and Ray Porter has to do that. And so he has to read that and, and come up with something like that, and he he pulls it off. It’s incredible.
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01:07:26
Wow.
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01:07:26
I was just texting him before I came in here, actually. He’s, filming a a play up in in Oregon waiting for Godot, I think, right now. So I’d love to see him on stage and see, just see him not just doing the voice, but acting.
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01:07:37
Yeah. I don’t I’ve never seen him in anything. I don’t think.
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01:07:39
He’s in he’s dark side he’s dark side in that, Justice League. Sai but that’s a bunch of you can’t really, you know I
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01:07:44
have seen that.
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01:07:45
Yeah. So he’s in he’s in that. Sai he’s in a he’s in, almost famous, bunch of sitcoms in the nineties. And, just just but just an awesome dude. But but, yeah, audiobooks. Ai think it’s because of podcasts. I think people listen to a podcast, and it is a very natural way to then get whatever you’re talking about on the podcast through the same medium.
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01:08:02
So over ai audiobook. It’s just a very natural transition to listen to the audiobook. And a lot of people are doing both. Thank goodness. So they’re getting the hardcover, and then they’re listening on the car on the way home, and then they get inside, and they’re reading a little bit before bed, get up to go to work in the morning, pick up again where they left off reading.
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01:08:16
So a lot of people are doing both.
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01:08:18
Well, you know, Audible, the way it works with Tinder tend Kindle rather, there’s, there’s an app where it’ll pick up where you are. Ai. What is it exactly? What is it? Whisper?
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01:08:33
Whisper sync.
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01:08:35
Whisper sync, something like that. So it picks up exactly where you left off reading, arya book will know that you, you’re you’re reading at night. Interesting. Sai speak up where you left off the next day.
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01:08:49
Interesting. But that’s not ai a Kindle. Mhmm. I can’t do the Kindle. Ai, I I feel that I do so much work on a screen that I don’t wanna have something Sai read for enjoyment to be the same thing. So I want it to be I’m in a physical book to go through. I just I’m just that kinda guy.
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01:09:01
The dope thing about a Kindle, though, is you can get 80 books on it or probably 80,000 Instead
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01:09:05
of my luggage.
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01:09:05
Let me know how many you can get on them honestly. But Yeah. And then the also the white paper screen where it really does look like paper, pretty fucking incredible.
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01:09:13
Yeah. Still for meh, once again, like the watches, like the cars, I have a thing. It’s a theme.
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01:09:16
Oh, listen. My wife’s the same way. She won’t she only reads book books.
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01:09:20
Oh, I love that.
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01:09:20
Feel the books.
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01:09:21
I love that.
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01:09:22
A lot of people are ai it’s like there’s a it’s a thing that you have in your hands.
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01:09:25
Yeah.
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01:09:25
And you’re turning the pages is ai the tactile feeling and you
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01:09:28
I gotta You know, when
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01:09:29
you’re halfway into the book, ai, oh meh god. Things are getting crazy. I’m halfway in here.
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01:09:33
This is You can see it. How is
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01:09:34
he gonna wrap this this up?
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01:09:34
You can’t see it rather than I’m at 37%. Exactly. It’s just a different It doesn’t mean anything. Just a different type of a type of a deal. But I picked up, Charlie Sheen’s book in the airport on the way here. Oh, did you? And sai I’m reading it by halfway through because he’s coming on my on the podcast. Sai wanna talk to him. I’m gonna ask him about, you know, apocalypse.
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01:09:48
I’m a keep it to Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Navy SEALs, kinda, like, keep it in in that kinda thing. But reading that book, oh my gosh. It’s it’s amazing, but I had to buy it. I couldn’t just get it on the I already had the PDF. They sent it to me, but I wanted to buy the book. I wanted to physically have it and make my notes in there and all that.
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01:10:01
So, so I’m so I’m doing that. But listening to him on this on your podcast was, sai so interesting. Oh, meh. What a
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01:10:09
funny guy. Yeah. It’s just what I told people, like, you can’t be normal if you’re on the set of Apocalypse Now when you’re 10 years old and then ten years later, you’re in Platoon. Yeah. You’re the lead
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01:10:22
Yeah.
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01:10:23
In Platoon ten years later. Like, how Yeah. How do you expect that guy to be normal? Yeah. No one can handle that. It’s not handleable. Yep.
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01:10:30
That level of stardom is Yeah. Especially in the eighties. Before phones and everything else when they got after it. Oh, and the drugs. Yeah. I mean, he
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01:10:38
was involved in so much drugs.
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01:10:40
From early on.
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01:10:41
Yeah. And back then, you could do drugs. Like, you didn’t ai.
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01:10:44
You didn’t die. I didn’t get fentanyl.
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01:10:45
Well, actually, one of the ladies he talked about in the documentary
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01:10:49
Saw that.
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01:10:49
That gave him a blowjob while he was smoking crack
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01:10:51
for the
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01:10:51
first ai.
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01:10:52
I saw that.
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01:10:52
She ai.
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01:10:53
Yeah. An overdose. Yeah.
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01:10:54
But you gotta try hard. It’s not like today you gotta accidentally do a snort of coke and then Right. Fentanyl laced and you’re dead. Right. And that’s a hundred thousand people in America every year. It’s crazy.
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01:11:05
Yeah.
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01:11:06
But what he was doing was just going hog ai.
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01:11:10
That he’s alive. And he’s alive. Ai yeah. Anyway He
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01:11:13
looks good.
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01:11:13
He looks yeah. He looks great.
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01:11:14
He looks a lot better than he’s looked in in the past. Yeah. Ai, when he came in here, I’m like, dude, you look healthy. Yeah. I think he said he’d almost been sober for eight years. Been sober for seven plus years.
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01:11:24
Man.
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01:11:25
It’s coming on eight years. I think he said December. I forget. But it was very impressive. And he’s, like, really nice guy.
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01:11:31
Yeah. You know? No. It seems like it. He, he he he, ai, he was a fan of the books beforehand, so he likes all this stuff. Likes Dark Wolf, likes Terminal List, all that stuff. That’s cool. Yeah, so that’ll be fun to fun to talk to him. And, also, I went to see Navy SEALs the the day before it came out.
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01:11:43
There was a showing at, like, midnight on Thursday or something like that before it came out on Friday back when I was in, in high school, and I knew I was gonna be a Speak. So I was so excited. I’m like, they cast Charlie Sheen, the guy from Platoon in this. I’m like, perfect casting.
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01:11:54
And, and so I went and sai it then, so it’d be fun to talk to him about that stuff. And I do remember we I did meet him at a is it Red Sox game? Is that the one that they want? Is that his team? I think so.
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01:12:03
But him and his dad were in a box next to us, so I was still in the SEAL teams. And I was with some of the guys that were on the Bin Laden raid. And we were in one of the the owners boxes. And, and Charlie Sheen was next to us with his dad. And, somehow, they got to talking or whatever. And so we went over there.
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01:12:15
He came over to us, I can’t remember, with his dad and, ai hi. And he was he was fantastic. His dad was such a gentleman. That stands out to me. But Charlie Sheen was awesome, so personable. He was great, but his dad was so ai. And I stand ai an old school type gentleman.
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01:12:28
Mhmm. Is what stood out about Martin Sheen. And then what also stands out is then we then left there at the end of the game, and there was a line of girls down the I’ll tell him this when I I see. I see if he remembers. He might not remember, but it could have probably happened almost every day for him.
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01:12:42
Just a line of girls down the hallway outside of the owner’s box.
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01:12:44
Trying to meet him.
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01:12:45
Yep. They weren’t there for me.
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01:12:47
Well, what are you gonna do?
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01:12:48
Yeah. Yeah. But they were there for Charlie. And, that was pretty cool.
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01:12:52
Must be rough.
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01:12:53
Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, hey, ai, what sai shah a crazy life. And then you guys came back in and had to deal with the the Charlie Kirk assassination. And I thought you guys handled that in such sai such a thoughtful way, real time. That’s a tough position for both you guys to be in.
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01:13:06
I hadn’t seen it meh, you know. Ai just heard and then I really didn’t wanna see it. I said I wasn’t gonna see it, but then someone someone texted it to me ai I just couldn’t help myself. I clicked on it.
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01:13:17
I’m like, oh, why
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01:13:19
did I watch that?
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01:13:20
I know. So sad. I was signing the those books. Sai was signing the the the books right there that day with my chief of staff and and, she was passing me the books and I’m signing and we’re checking off the the names for these pub boxes. And, all of a sudden her phone goes off and I heard shah screams. And, I was like, woah. What happened?
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01:13:36
And her husband is in the security field, and, she sai, Charlie Kirk’s been shot in Utah. Like, sai Ai course, go to X and then see it. And then Ai didn’t get to my kids in time ai, my daughter and our youngest son are both follow him, think feel like they know him, essentially.
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01:13:52
And I didn’t get to them in time before they they saw it. So, our our youngest, I was most concerned about, seeing that being away from home at boarding school. And, anyway, called the school. One of the guys, there’s like a trusted agent. He’s like a guy’s guy like us and went over and tracked him down and he was doing fine.
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01:14:06
But it’s, it’s different than seeing in the paper or on having Walter Cronkite report that JFK was killed. That’s that’s different, I think. Challenger for us in school when you’re growing up. Like, we saw it explode, but you’re not seeing the people. You’re not seeing it as viscerally from all these different angles from self awareness immediately. So graphic. Just so heartbreaking. So sai heartbreaking.
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01:14:28
And but you guys I mean, you guys were had to do it, like, real tyler. And I thought you guys were very thoughtful about
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01:14:34
how you dealt with it. It was weird. It it always feels surreal when someone ai, but when someone gets assassinated like that.
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01:14:41
Mhmm.
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01:14:41
And then there was the weirdness of the reactions of people. Oh my gosh. That was the most disturbing aspect of it, where I was like, what is what have we done?
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01:14:50
I know.
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01:14:50
Like, what have we done to people’s minds with social media and with political discourse that you are thrilled that someone was murdered in front of his children on the Internet for the world to sai, and you you are celebrating because you didn’t like his ideas. Yeah. Ai, that is so crazy that we’ve gone that far.
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01:15:15
Yeah. I mean, you feel you could feel the evil. And as much as I tried not to to look at all these reactions, it’s just being fed to me because of the the algorithm and everything else. So there were two in particular, one guy, one lady, and they were, like, cackling, like, a witch’s cackle, like, out of a, like, some sort of a, some sort of a fairy tale that’s meant to scare kids that, you know, but in real life celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
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01:15:37
And, I mean, that was revolting, but you could feel the evil through the cackles. I’ve never felt like that before. But, I mean, very few ai, I should say.
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01:15:44
Ai think a lot of it is very performative. And I think a lot of people are doing it for clicks and likes, and they think that there’s a lot of like minded people that feel the way they feel. And then there was a a wave of people that were, like, excited about losing someone who’s a right wing influencer. They were happy about it. It was real weird.
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01:16:02
Yeah. Ai, it and and and continues to really ai of fuck with my head because I didn’t think that that would be the case. I’d hoped it’d be very few people. I’d I’d I’d hoped, but it wasn’t. No. It was a lot. It was a lot in real life too.
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01:16:16
It wasn’t just social media. Mhmm. You know, I have I’ve had multiple friends that encountered people celebrating in real life. One of my friends was at a cafe writing, and this lady came in and she was on a Zoom call. And, she it was right after the assassination, and she gets in a Zoom call and she’s like, well, I don’t know about you guys, but I am having a great day now.
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01:16:39
And they were like, this is a great day. I’m having a great day too. I’m having a great day. The events of the day have made me very happy. And they were laughing and smiling and, like, clapping publicly. Yeah. Like, in a cafe. It was very obvious what they were talking about. Like, that’s so gross.
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01:17:01
Does it feel comfortable enough to do that? Right. Like, if that’s acceptable? Do you you’re we want that attached to you for the rest of your ai, and you don’t take one second to say, maybe even from a practical standpoint, like, maybe I should just sit this out. Even if I feel happy, maybe I should do some reevaluations.
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01:17:15
But even if that’s not the case, like, maybe I should just sit this one out type of a thing. But instead they feel comfortable to jump on and say those things. I mean, it was ridiculous. And Ai I mean, you felt the I mean, I could feel the evil coming through the phone, which is a strange thing to say.
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01:17:27
And I’ve been, like, in Bagram early on in the war in Afghanistan. I remember the, I forget I don’t know if it was a really a black site prison, but it was like a nasty prison. They had this smell and you could ai, like, this like, kind of this overriding sense of, I don’t know, yeah, despair, but also, like, this little little bit of, a current of evil in there.
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01:17:41
And then same thing in Baghdad where they held Saddam, like, being in there. I’ve been in both those places. And, and you kinda feel a little and but even more so, you feel it with Saddam’s kids. And they’re, like, they have these little islands and palaces, and you know what they did there. Ai, you’re pulling girls off the street and that sort of thing.
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01:17:54
And you just feel dirty.
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01:17:56
Feeding dogs.
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01:17:57
Or you feel evil. I mean, you you sense it in some of those places, but, but I felt that same kind of thing coming through the phone. Then I felt it again. It’s weird to feel it so many times. My wife and I were in Paris, like I said, right before I came out here. So it’s Morocco finishing the show for about a month, then to Paris, and it happened to be Fashion Week.
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01:18:13
And, we weren’t there for Fashion Week, it just happened to be Fashion Sana. Sai, it’s, which is still going on now, I think. But, we were in this, we wanted to go to one dinner where we could see some people, gotta do some people watching, and I could store some of it away for books.
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01:18:24
And, yeah, that’s what I’m always collecting, always collecting. And so we went to one of the place vatsal, Kardashians again, where they stay called, like, Kotas or anyway, went to this hotel that’s that’s, where a lot of the fashion people stay. And it was interesting at first. We’re seeing some people just treat the wait staff horribly. And so you’re getting just kinda taking some notes on that.
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01:18:39
And, and then this guy walks in with, like, two minions, and you don’t see his face because he’s got this, like, hood on. But there are these earrings that are attached to the outside, and they’re hanging down. And he’s just, like, fairly obese person. And so you never saw his face the way he was he he walked in and then sat in front of us with these two guys on either side that had their sunglasses on sana they were, like, both dressed very similarly and both side of them, they just were looking at him like this and just it it was so odd, but you felt this sense of evil.
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01:19:07
Ai I don’t really like using that word too much, but you felt something odd sai much so that, we paid the bill and left. It was odd. It was so odd. And, similar thing that I felt coming across the phone with those people at celebration.
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01:19:20
Who was the guy?
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01:19:20
I don’t know. We were gonna go back to our hotel and look up, like, try to see, like, who’s at fashion speak? And who dresses this way because it was very strange. Like, ai black robes, and it was just the weirdest thing.
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01:19:30
With the yearies?
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01:19:31
Yeah. But attached through the through the like like, your hoodies on and kinda, like, clipped to the outside or something and coming down, like, from the outside of, like, this thin hoodie, it was very bizarre. Very bizarre.
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01:19:41
But you felt that that person was evil.
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01:19:43
Yeah. I’ve never I mean, very rarely do you feel do I feel that anyway.
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01:19:47
Oh.
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01:19:47
You know? It’s very strange feeling. But I’ve learned to listen to my to those feelings. Listen to the gut. Listen to the sixth sense that’s kept us alive as a species for so long.
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01:19:55
If you went to Davos when they have, like, those w World Economic Forum conferences, I bet you’d smell brimstone. Maybe. I bet
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01:20:04
you would I’d be looking for it, though. It might be different. You know, that might be different if you’re actually looking for it. It’s kind of a difference. Sai can’t
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01:20:09
But, like, whenever you can get a bunch of billionaires together that that are trying to decide the fate of the world, I bet you feel evil.
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01:20:15
I don’t know. I’m I’m gonna have to go to one of those at some point. I ai I did, I did go to Bohemian Grove. I don’t know if you’re supposed to talk about it, but it’s, I didn’t feel that there. Like, it was more like guys getting away for the weekend to drink. I’ve heard
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01:20:25
a lot of people say that about Bohemian Grove recently. Yeah. And and and I know people that have gone, like, that have been invited. Kid Rock told me he went.
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01:20:33
Ai yeah.
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01:20:33
Couple other guys told me they went. They’re like, I wanna see what the fuck it is. Yeah. And so they went. I’m like, but did you ever watch the Alex Jones video? Like, when Alex Jones and John Ronson snuck in Right. To that’s back when Alex Jones and John Ronson were united.
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01:20:46
Who is John Ronson?
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01:20:47
John Ronson is the British journalist.
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01:20:48
Oh, okay.
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01:20:49
He’s the guy who wrote Sai You’ve Been Publicly Shamed.
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01:20:51
I don’t know. I’ll look it up.
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01:20:53
It’s about, like, one of the it’s it’s about, like, the first mass cancellations through social media.
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01:20:59
Oh, ai. Okay.
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01:21:00
This new public shaming thing that happens.
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01:21:03
Yeah. Yeah.
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01:21:04
Very interesting guy. Yeah. But there it is. There’s Ronson.
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01:21:08
Okay.
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01:21:09
And so he snuck in with Alex Jones.
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01:21:12
Yeah. I saw someone. So I didn’t see anything weird like that in the but I know you’re talking about the burning thing. I think that’s when I think about it because I didn’t see any of that stuff. But, I’m thinking it must be
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01:21:21
do that anymore.
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01:21:22
Maybe not. I don’t know. But I but I ai ram the party. Maybe. But I when I’m thinking about it, if I think about it logically, you know when you, like, throw something into a ai, like, at, at BUDS, guys would burn their dungarees, and dungarees are, ai, a regular navy uniform.
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01:21:35
And if you make it through BUDS and don’t get kicked out of the teams, you’ll never have to wear that uniform again. And it’s, like, it was it was awful. It was bell bottom jeans and a denim shirt, like, tucked in that you had to starch, you know, especially in boot camp in a way that, like, well, you hold it out flat.
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01:21:47
It’s just it’s awful. And the little Dixie Cup hat, like, that’s the uniform. Like, the worst uniform in the history of uniforms. Like, it is nothing tough about about that, but people would burn them. And so, like, never going back, you know, like, that sort of a thing, and then 80% would quit. Quit. But they burn the, their uniform.
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01:22:03
So I could think it meh be something like that. You know, you wanna burn something, like, that’s that’s what I think it might be. But Ai don’t know.
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01:22:09
Eighty percent will quit before they get through BUDS.
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01:22:12
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Along the way, most in Hell Speak, but, but at some point along the way, typically, 80% give or take, you know, won’t make it. But, but burning that thing is kinda like burning the boats, which is not a real thing.
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01:22:22
Hell Week and then they still quit?
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01:22:24
Some. Some. Not many. Not Not many. Most people will be performance dropped after that for, not being comfortable in the water for pool comp when you’re getting pounded off the the bottom of the pool by, by instructors, and then you’re having to go through the right procedures to get your air turned back on and continue to to crawl, and then they come and hit you again and rip your mask off and hit you in the guts.
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01:22:40
You expel your air, turn off your air ai because it’s the two hoses, super old school, tie them in a knot, and then they back off to see that you’re comfortable in the water and that you’re gonna go through the right procedures to get everything working again and continue on.
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01:22:51
So that’s about fifteen minutes of doing that. And some people just aren’t comfortable in the water. And sai, they’ll go
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01:22:56
Is it just a panic thing?
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01:22:57
Yeah. I mean, your air is cut off, and it’s easy to get more air. I mean, you’re only 10 feet or 15 feet, whatever it is Mhmm. Back to air. So it’s very easy to get that air. But you have to go through the right procedures and just like you’ve been taught and be very comfortable.
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01:23:10
And, you know, that’s that’s what the test is all about. Ai punch
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01:23:13
you in the stomach?
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01:23:14
Yeah. So you’re you lose some air. So it just it just makes you even more uncomfortable. That
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01:23:19
makes a big difference, like, who’s punching you?
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01:23:21
Yeah. Instructor. Yeah.
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01:23:22
Yeah. And where they’re hitting you.
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01:23:23
Yeah. Yeah. And it’s sai yeah. And they bounce you off the bottom. You ai just go limp. Mhmm. Just relax. Just like in jujitsu or something like that. Like, okay. Relax. And then, okay. Now I’m gonna get into this. So, I love I love that sort of thing because that was the only time in BUDS where it was, like, mano y mano against the instructor.
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01:23:37
The rest of the time, she was getting yelled at, being told you’re worthless, push ups, sit ups, run, swim. But now it’s ai, okay. You and me. I I love that. Same thing, like, it was called, ai.
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01:23:47
So that’s the other time you get to put your hands on the instructors is you have to go out and they’ll act like a different type of person drowning. So they’ll fight you or they’re just dead weight or something like that, and they’re different body types.
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01:23:56
Mhmm.
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01:23:56
And so you get to go, you swim out towards them, and then you have to get them back. And they’ll take you down to the bottom, hit you off the bottom, and so they’re doing the work in that in that that situation. And you just relax, hold on, just like you’re got someone in, like, a rear naked choke type thing. Mhmm. And, and then they have to go up.
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01:24:10
They’re expending their energy keeping you down there. They’re gonna have to go up and get the air. So just wait, go up to the top, grab a little bit of air, get closer to the side of the pool, then they take you down again ai of a thing. And I love that because that’s the only time you could put your hands on an instructor. So I thought that was that was good. I like that.
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01:24:24
So but you have to put your hands on them like you’re rescuing them. Yeah. You can’t just choke them. No. Because I’d be like, this dude is fucking doing it, and I’m gonna put him to sleep.
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01:24:33
Yeah. No. But there’s some similarities there. Just some similarities with body positions and all that sort of thing, just being comfortable, with, without air for some time.
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01:24:40
On how you grab them. Yeah.
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01:24:42
They teach you how to how to how to grab them and how to get towards the side of the pool type of thing. Right. You can’t
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01:24:46
keep them down if you got better breath than they do. No. You can’t let them hold on to them.
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01:24:50
No. I don’t think so. I don’t think so.
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01:24:59
Ten minute dudes.
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01:25:00
You do have some people like that to come through.
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01:25:02
I bet.
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01:25:02
You know, you do have some really incredible athletes that come through. I bet. And a lot of them don’t make it because they’re being them treated like, Ferraris or Lamborghinis most of their life ai they’re really an elite athlete. Right. And then all of a sudden, they’re being treated like a like Chevy, you know, and just thrown through walls or whatever, and it’s like, ai.
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01:25:15
Not,
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01:25:17
crazy pressure test that has to be done. I mean, there’s no real job that’s similar other than, you know, Rangers and other Yeah. Yeah. Elite speak forces teams
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01:25:27
Yeah.
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01:25:28
Where you have to get through this horrific thing to prove that you’re the type of person that they sana train.
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01:25:34
Yeah. You bet that would be
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01:25:35
We’re not sure if we wanna train you even.
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01:25:37
Yeah.
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01:25:37
So we we don’t we don’t know if we’re ever gonna use you.
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01:25:40
Yeah.
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01:25:40
And so we’re gonna try to break you.
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01:25:42
Yeah. Gotta prove that you wanna be here. Try to ask. Meh fortitude to be here, and that you have, you can work as a team. There’s a few different things that they’re they’re looking for, but, it’s worked for a while. You know, it’s worked for a long time. It’s a good test.
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01:25:52
But it was getting really weird during the Wokey Wokey years where they were talking about lowering the standards.
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01:25:58
Right. There is that. And then the so the standard part so even if they say that they’re not lowering the standards, it’s how they get around it. And this is military in general, that they give you more chances. So before, if you only got one or two chances, maybe three, something like that, to pass an evolution Mhmm. Maybe the standard remains the same.
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01:26:16
But in order to get this person said person through, now you get four chances, five chances, six chances, seven chances, eight chances. So they sai, the standards have not changed. Well, okay. Not really. But you gave them a lot more chances, which you didn’t give other people before who were washed out of the program because they only got one chance or two chances or three.
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01:26:35
Sai it’s, Like,
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01:26:36
what would it be that you would get more chances doing?
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01:26:39
Like that pool comp thing. I think you got, you shah two chances on the first day and two chances on the second day. And, I passed the first day, just because I happened to be comfortable in the water. But, but some guys made it through in that fourth one, like, oh, made it. Just made it. But they didn’t get a fifth. They did not get a sixth.
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01:26:53
Right.
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01:26:53
And now maybe I don’t I don’t know if this is true, but this is a way around the standards. Give somebody a fifth. Give them a sai. Something like that. Or you failed the old course. Okay. One tyler, you get some sort of a, like, a warning or something like ai, and then you do it again. Second time, you’re out or whatever it is.
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01:27:07
Well, now you can just just as many times as it takes. Oh, they passed it. They passed it once. Let’s move them on.
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01:27:12
Were they doing that to just expand the ram, or were they doing it to get a specific demographic?
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01:27:18
Well, I’m not saying that they did it. I’m saying that’s how you would get around Right. The standards. Right. Like, the you’d be able to say that we haven’t, we haven’t lowered the standards, sir, type of a thing when you’re in front of congress. And they don’t know where to ask those ai of questions. Well, did you okay. Well, did you give them more chances? Did you change anything? Yeah.
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01:27:36
That’s something like that. So they can get away with, yeah, telling the truth ish, but not expanding on that. So that’s just a way to do it. So,
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so That’s the bizarre sign of the times to make elite speak forces units more easy to get into.
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01:27:49
Yeah. It’s, it’s a thing.
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Strange. Yeah. Right? Because there there was a push to lower standards. There’s a push to try to get women in it too. Right?
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01:27:57
I think so. I don’t know how much of a push it is
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or If any women ever gone through it?
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01:28:00
I don’t know how far they’ve gone. I think there were a couple that tried it and haven’t made it. I’m not sure if I’m so removed from it now. But, I think there there I don’t know if there’s a push for it, but it’s open now. And the part of that, it’s it’s for me, it’s, you know, ai probably get canceled now. But, you know, or maybe we’re past that. I don’t know.
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01:28:15
But, to me, it’s it’s not and what they what they say now, what you have to say officially, I think, is that the standards are the sai. Doesn’t matter if you’re male or female. Standards remain the same. Okay. Fine.
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01:28:25
But when you get to an elite unit like that or any unit and this might be a failing on my part. I fully, admit that. I mean, I was raised, when a woman enters a room, you stand up. You open the door for a lady ai of a thing. Like, those things, you stand up for like, you’re you’re chivalrous. You’re a gentleman type of a thing.
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01:28:42
And now all of a bryden, in a leadership position, Ai supposed to treat, female the exact same way that I treat a male going into combat. There’s no way I could possibly ever do that. I’m gonna be much more concerned about her than I am him. And once again, that might be a failing on my part. I fully accept that.
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01:28:58
But, I’m glad I never had to deal with it in real ai, but I see that being something that comes into play, especially if you’re raised to protect as a as a protector, as a sentinel, as a guardian. And, now all of a sudden, you’re supposed to treat said female who’d been raised to protect, treat them exactly the same way as a guy going into combat.
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01:29:15
That’s how difficult
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for me. Physical realities, I feel, that we just have to address when when people sana talk about equality. Ai understand that when you’re talking about jobs that don’t require shooting people and stabbing people and hand to hand combat. Okay? Because as soon as you do that and you are physically far weaker and far slower and you’re you just you’re just you’re not a man. It’s a different thing.
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I feel the same way about women ai, if you wanted to have a cross gender combat sports, if you wanted ai men fighting biological women, I don’t care if they’re the same weight, like, don’t it’s not fair.
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01:29:56
Yeah. It’s
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not it’s not it’s not smart for them to be doing that. Yeah. That said, I feel like you should be able to do what you wanna do.
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I know it’s tough. Sana
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this life. Right. And I don’t wanna limit anybody’s choices in this life. But if you want the best people for the job, I can’t see how they’re going to be weaker people. Yeah. It doesn’t really make sense. And if you have a physical requirement for all the men and that physical requirement involves a lot of, like, heavy physical working out in labor, I don’t know that a woman can pass that.
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Yeah. Yeah. For Ai, I’ve seen what you guys had to go through to
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01:30:31
get through
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BUDS and, like, okay. You have to be strong. Like, you have to there has to be a certain amount of physical strength that you have to be able to do that.
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01:30:37
Yeah. Yeah. For me, it even comes yeah. Ai I said, it comes down to to that. And it’s probably my failing, but maybe not. Maybe we’re supposed to be. You know, I think we’re supposed to be protectors. Yeah. I think we’re supposed to be protectors.
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01:30:46
All throughout human history, that’s that’s
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01:30:48
been the case. Yeah. And then you’re supposed to all of a sudden change because we’re policy directive. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, we’re going back. I mean, it’s causing a little ruffling a lot of feathers within the military right now, changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War, which is and I’m not saying that they Ai never heard anyone talk about it until I talked about it back in 02/2001.
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01:31:06
And, I wrote some articles after the Afghanistan withdrawal, and I caught and it went on Fox a bunch of times and talked about how we need to precision and language reflects precision and thought. Department of Defense defense has a sort of connotation to it, a definition to it.
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01:31:19
And the Department of War is different than a Department of Defense, just the language of it. And I said, we it’s time to change the Department of Defense back to the Department of War. And I used the Afghanistan withdrawal as that example and and put that in two articles, and I include one on town hall, I believe.
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01:31:32
And then but I talked about it. And Ai never heard anybody mention that before. So
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01:31:36
Is that what it used to be? It used to be the Department
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01:31:38
of War? War up to the end of World War two, and then it changed. And then it was official in, 1947 with the reorganization of the military and our intelligence apparatus. Mhmm. So 1947 onward became the Department of Defense.
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01:31:49
Do you take any heat in your books? Because one of one of the things that you talk about, especially in the terminal list, is horrific government corruption
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01:32:00
Yeah.
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And the willingness to put soldiers’ lives, as expendable Yeah. In order to profit.
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01:32:07
Yeah. I certainly talk about it in here as a great conversation. One of my favorite chapters is these two characters, Tom Rees, and his buddy Quinn. So one special forces guy, one speak, and they’re having this conversation on China Beach. And, it was great to write those chapters and do, all this research into China Beach and Da Nang and, who what kind of surfboards they were using, how they were shaped, like, all this stuff just to bring you back to that, to that time frame, but that’s what they’re talking about.
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So this is about James Reese’s sai.
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01:32:29
Yep. 1968, his dad. And, people find out where the tomahawk came from, where the watch came from, where honey and the coffee came from. So all these little things are kinda woven in there as well. But exactly what you just talked about is a conversation in this book in 1968, and it’s the same conversation that we’re having today. Yeah.
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01:32:45
But, I wouldn’t say I take heat over it, and I’m never gonna worry in a chapter or a book about, who’s who am I to alienate by writing something, here are Criminals? Or charge. Alright.
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01:32:55
Alright. You gotta piss off
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01:32:56
the criminals. Exactly. Hey. Exactly. The people in power.
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That’s it. Honest about what we did.
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01:33:01
Or or just people in power in general or Yeah. Or any or or just a part of a readership, maybe. I’m just gonna focus on that story. I have to focus on that story. I’m not doing this I’m not writing this for a reader. I’m writing this for the story, and that sai Ai honor that reader. So it’s all about that story. But, the CIA was has been was very nice.
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01:33:18
We got to film the, the end of Dark Wolf at CIA headquarters, and I hadn’t been back there since I was in the Speak team. So I’m at CIA headquarters. I have a cameo in there that I ai through at the at the end of the show on episode seven. I’m the guard that, that takes the guy’s ideas. He’s leaving the, and I have it one line. I think it’s I say I say something anyway.
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01:33:34
But, it was very cool to be there in front of that memorial wall, that wall of stars, especially knowing some of those guys that are on there that are memorialized by those stars. So the CIA was very, kind to let us use that lobby. They didn’t ask us to change anything in the shah, didn’t put any restraints or restrictions on anything.
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01:33:52
They just let us use it, and that was very cool. Some guys came down that didn’t need to come down that day, which was really cool, that wanted to talk to me about some stuff that I did in Iraq, and it was very, very cool to to talk to them. Very cool to see the see the museum there. I get a little tour of the CIA Museum, all that stuff. So they’ve been very helpful.
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01:34:07
The military, not so much. The military does not let us use, any aircraft carriers, submarines, helicopters, anything like that like they do for some other shows. I think that’s probably because I blew an admiral up in his office in the first episode, her stuff, her series, and then the book.
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So Sai don’t think the
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military really what
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01:34:22
it is, you think? I think it probably is because we’re gonna use for the first show, we were gonna use, Camp Pendleton. And, the marines were all on board and, then their department of the navy. So then the navy found out about it and quashed it, so we did not get to use Cape Town. Yeah.
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01:34:37
So it’s, and, like, in Jack Ryan and stuff, I think they use actual military helicopters and, maybe an amphib ship or something like that, So they get some support from the
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01:34:46
They didn’t blow anybody up.
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They did. Exactly. They’re not blowing up admirals. They don’t have corrupt admirals getting blown up in their offices with SFES. So so I don’t think the military is a big fan. The the rank and file are. Those guys are awesome. At my book signings, it’s there’s so many military, so much law enforcement, firefighters, first responders. The audience is full of those guys, and it’s so fantastic.
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01:35:03
That’s
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fiction, though. That seems so bitchy.
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I know. I know.
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01:35:08
It seems like also that that would be a very good recruitment tool because these guys look like badasses. People are like, fuck, I wanna be a SEAL.
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01:35:16
Yeah.
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Yeah. Fucking badass. Yeah. And so a lot of guys would probably join because of that series and they’re like, no. You bad guy. Yep. It’s a bad guy though.
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01:35:27
Exactly. It’s not you. Yeah.
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01:35:29
Yeah. Justice. What you guys gonna let all the bad guys off the hook? Exactly. Come on. You got a murderous bad guy that happens to be an admiral? You don’t wanna see him get whacked? Yeah.
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01:35:38
Yeah. Exactly. It’s fiction. Yeah. And I knew that would happen at some point. I knew the, people would eventually come through a ai, sai line, and ai, I joined the military because of you or I became a police officer because of something I read in your books. And because that’s meh. I was I was influenced by popular culture growing up, and that helped me on my path into the SEAL teams.
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01:35:55
So I I knew what happened. I didn’t really conceptualize it any further than that. But when it happened, that was first time, which was a couple years ago because the first book came out in 2018. So someone reads that at 16, 17, 18. Now they’re a few years into this career in law enforcement or in the military. And, and guys have come up and said that now.
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01:36:09
And I’m always like, oh, man. I hope you made the right choice. I’m like, oh, I hope I’m just hopefully, I was just one part of a lot of information that you took in in order to make this decision. Yeah. But, but but they do say it now.
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01:36:20
And, like, with David Morell in, in Phoenix the other night for the launch of the book, He has been through, like, burn units and stuff, saying hi to people as part of, like, USO tours and stuff. And people, like, missing arms and legs are totally burned. Say, hey. I joined the military because of Rambo. And him, it’s like, he’s such a nice guy.
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01:36:36
He’s just like Oh. I mean, ai, like, devastating. Devastating I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. So so it’s, but for me, it’s like, hey.
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01:36:44
It’s it’s always gonna be about the story. I knew that would happen, but it was a surprise the first time. Kinda like the tattoo was the first was a surprise the first time I saw it. Like like ai baby the other night was the first was surprised. So it’s, yeah. It’s, it does happen.
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01:36:56
Really honor the actual experiences that these people have in your books. Thanks. It’s it’s very believable and realistic, and it and it does honor those people.
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01:37:07
Thank you. Thank you. That’s what I for this one in particular, that’s what I wanted to do. I wanted those guys who were not just Sai Vyseag going over the borders, and fighting this in denied areas where they weren’t supposed to be in, Cambodia, Laos, North Vietnam. But, anyone who stood up and went down there to serve, I wanted to make sure I honored them and gave my heart and soul to every word, and I felt that responsibility as I was writing this.
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01:37:27
I wanted those guys to read it and say, he put in the effort to get it right. And even for people just ai through the sixties, it didn’t go down range. I wanted them to read it and say, oh, he tried to he got close. Even if I made a mistake here or there, like, he put in the effort to try to capture the essence of 1968.
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01:37:41
And, and that’s sai that’s why so much work went into this.
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01:37:44
But Those guys that went into the tunnels
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01:37:46
Oh, yeah. Like that Around soon.
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01:37:48
That is some of those are some of the fucking craziest stories.
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01:37:53
Yep.
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01:37:54
You’re going into the tunnels hand to hand. Yep.
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01:37:57
The 1911 and a flashlight
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01:37:59
and Looking for Viet Cong and not knowing what you’re gonna ai.
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01:38:03
Crazy.
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Not knowing who’s in there, not knowing what’s waiting for you, what’s booby trapped.
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01:38:06
Oh, yeah. That’s gotta be some of the toughest fighting one can do in the dark, in the tunnel, under the ground, essentially ai yourself because you can’t fit anybody else in there with you.
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01:38:16
Did you watch Peaky Blinders?
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01:38:17
No. I need to watch it.
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01:38:18
It’s really awesome. Yeah. But one of the aspects of these characters is that the the Peaky Blinders were all veterans.
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01:38:27
Uh-huh.
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01:38:28
And they were all in World War one in trench warfare.
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01:38:30
Oh, wow.
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01:38:31
And they were in the tunnels.
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01:38:32
Oh, ai the trenches. Yeah.
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01:38:33
And so, like, they they came back and they have flashbacks and there’s a lot of, like
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01:38:39
Shell shah.
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01:38:40
Yeah. Waking up in the middle of ai stabbing people thinking thinking you’re there again. It’s just some wild scenes of them in the trenches. Yeah. And it’s just ai, Jesus.
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01:38:50
And we’re seeing some more of that trench stuff in, in an, Ukraine. Mhmm. I meh, woah.
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01:38:55
But live video, though. Though. Live video. You’ve seen, like, four k video of cell phones and drones and
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01:39:00
The drone stuff is scary. I’m so glad that we don’t have that didn’t have to deal with that during my tyler.
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01:39:04
It’s fucking nuts. Mhmm. There was watching a guy who was in the back of a truck and, they were running and the drone is coming out and he’s firing at the drone and shoots it maybe three, four yards from him.
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01:39:17
I saw that one.
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01:39:18
That’s crazy. Fucking nuts. Mhmm. Fucking nuts. And you realize, like, this is what they’re dealing with. Yeah. Yeah. Exploding drones that are whizzing towards them, and someone on the other end somewhere in the world Yep. Has got a fucking joystick and Yep. And trying to get you with it.
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01:39:34
Yep. I put that in True Believer saloni book, and we put it in the show. We filmed it in the second shah. I have a drone attack in there. But that was a few few years ago. And just imagine when it gets to the next stage where it sends a a, mosquito in here, a fly, and it’s looking at your face.
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01:39:47
And it’s ai, oh, worn out for your arrest. Boom. Lands on you. Right. Exactly. And, and that sort of thing.
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01:39:53
It checks you with
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01:39:54
some toxic shit. Yeah.
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01:39:55
Yeah. It was sai weird time.
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01:39:57
Yeah. Like like those videos that we just saw that looks like Muhammad Ali is on the show. Mhmm. I mean, all that sort of stuff. I mean, it’s gonna we’re getting to that point where it’s going to identify you somehow, some sort of ai identification through your eyes, through blood, through facial recognition, a combination of all three, and then that is gonna allow you to access whatever it is, information online, bryden cards, all the rest of it, of course.
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01:40:19
But what it’s really doing is allowing something, whether it’s the government or big tech, more control over you. Because, eventually, you’re gonna go in and okay. To make sure this is you paying for, let’s say, a speak. And now, all of a sudden, oh, you’ve had your allotment of steak because of the environment, because of, like, how many cows and whatever they’re they’re doing.
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01:40:36
You can’t buy the speak. Mhmm. Or, your allotment of power for your vehicle, you’ve used yours up, for the for the mother sai in your car. All of those things. Mhmm. But it’s gonna know exactly because you’re gonna have to do it to access information ai. And we’re getting closer and closer to that.
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01:40:52
Well, anyone just submitted to it. They just submitted to digital ID.
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01:40:55
Oh, yeah.
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01:40:56
Yeah. These motherfuckers are pushing digital ID on these people.
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01:40:59
Mhmm.
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01:41:00
And once they do digital ID, they’re gonna attach to a social credit score. Yep. They’re gonna attach it to a carbon footprint score. And then they’ll be able to control your movement and control you entirely. And most importantly, they’ve already arrested 12,000 people
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01:41:13
for social media posts. That’s insane.
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01:41:16
Above and beyond every other country, way above Russia. Russia was ai 400 last year. The UK is 12,000. There any criticism of immigration, any criticism of grooming gangs and people being raped, any talk about how horrible this is, they come visit you. It’s like someone’s trying to destroy England. It’s literally ai they they’ve got a concerted effort to destroy England, and they’re getting away with it.
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01:41:42
Yeah. And what happens over there?
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01:41:44
It’s really crazy. It’s really crazy to watch. Because the mass immigration is not an accident. It’s not if ai I was gonna destroy a country, I would do it exactly the way they’re doing it. Ai take away their freedom, take away their ability to protest, take away their guns, which they did in the nineties, and then you start tightening that noose ai and tighter, add more restrictions, more this, more that.
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01:42:09
I mean, it’s we’re getting closer.
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01:42:11
And just the arresting people. When you arrest 12,000 people for social media posts, you don’t just arrest people for social media posts. You change people’s ability to to post about things because of fear. So they self censor. So you don’t even you’re you’re getting hitting them with like this one guy who complained about there’s a famous video where this fucking idiot in a wig.
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01:42:30
He’s one of them judges and they wear the wigs, the white powdered wigs.
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01:42:33
Yeah.
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01:42:34
And he’s, sentencing this guy for twenty months for social media posts that are normal. Ai, normal complaints about mass immigration of illegals from other countries that aren’t assimilating and that are that they believe are ruining their society, which there’s a real argument for.
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01:42:51
And that’s what online discourse is supposed to be about. Like, having conversations, ai, I’m voicing my concern for the way society is running right now because of what’s happening, and no one’s doing anything about it, and no one’s protecting anybody. It’s nuts, man.
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01:43:06
Anytime in human history that would be called an invasion. Yeah. And, and now it’s
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01:43:10
Sai it’s not just an invasion. It’s like they’re doing it they’re letting people do it. They’re enabling these people doing it. And they’re putting them on the dole too, which is even crazier. And, you know, you’re seeing that in America as well, where they just uncovered a bunch of people that were illegals that had meh been given social security numbers and were already voting.
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01:43:29
And and this is nuts, man. Yeah. It’s ai it’s a it’s a concerted effort. And this was one of the main focuses that a lot of people had in the 2024 campaign. There was one side that wanted to stop that and one side that wanted to pretend that it was a good thing.
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01:43:45
And, like, that you have a open border and criminals and cartel members are just flooding through. People from foreign countries of military fighting age just flooding through, and you’re pretending there’s nothing wrong with that. Like, you’re setting us up for a real big fucking problem.
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01:44:03
Yeah. Have you seen the videos? I’m sure you have have. It’s Bill Clinton. It’s, Hillary Clinton. It’s, Schumer. It’s Pelosi. Oh, yeah.
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01:44:09
It’s
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01:44:09
Biden from the nineties. Oh, yeah. Like, giving these speeches on the floor of Congress that, today would, would be extremely right wing.
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01:44:17
Extremely. It’s normal. Hillary Clinton normal. In I think it was 02/2012? Ai, whatever it was where she was running for for president, and she’s more MAGA than MAGA.
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01:44:34
Yeah. Like, she
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01:44:35
is talking about if you’re if you’re a criminal, you know, no if, ands, or buts. You get kicked out.
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01:44:40
And if
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01:44:40
you’re here, you pay a stiff fine
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01:44:42
Yeah.
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01:44:42
Because you cut the ai. Like, yeah.
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01:44:44
It’s wild.
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01:44:45
Yeah. Like, what happened to that? It’s out there,
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01:44:47
but then we’re not getting you know, most people don’t know about tyler. They don’t see it. You have to look for it or something like
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01:44:51
that in those lines. Let’s you realize that these people that are playing these roles of leaders Yeah. They don’t have principled stances on things. Mhmm. They go with wherever their party’s leaning
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01:45:02
Yeah.
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01:45:02
And wherever the majority of people believe Yeah. Is the direction to go. And they might not even implement these things, but just to say it in order to get elected and get people to vote for them. That’s insane. And that’s what they did.
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01:45:14
It’s insane. I don’t like all the leaders.
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01:45:16
Believe in gay marriage until 02/2013.
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01:45:18
I’ll I’ll polling, I guess. Right? But it’s also manipulation. And it’s also manipulation of the populace through through the all these, all these different different platforms. Yep. And, and what did you think also of the, Ai don’t like to call them leaders. I like to call them elected representatives. That’s what they’re supposed to be.
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01:45:32
It’s alleged supposed to represent us, and they send they get there and they represent themselves. But, how was the how was the inauguration? I didn’t get to to ask you.
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01:45:40
Being in the room with all the lizard people that run the world is so strange. Yeah. It’s so weird. Uh-huh. It was ai seeing, like, Hillary and seeing Obama and seeing Kamala Harris and Biden and and Bush and all those people there is very weird. It’s it’s really weird, man. It’s real weird. It’s real weird being in the Capitol and ai, like, how strange this whole process is.
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01:46:04
Right. I
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01:46:04
mean, there’s this, like, public humiliation ritual where Trump goes on stage and talks shah, and they’re right behind him. And they have to eat it, and everybody cheers and and claps, and it’s very bizarre.
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01:46:16
Surreal?
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01:46:16
Yeah. Very surreal. Very surreal. Surreal also that I’m right there too Right. On the stage, like, what’s going on? Five rows back from the president. It’s ai the strangest fucking thing on earth. And it’s also strange just that this is this weird ritual that they do, this changing of the control.
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01:46:33
And then, you know, the the beginning of the battle for the next four years where they everybody is, like, slinking away to try their strategy and figure out what to do next and who’s our warrior. And now they’re trying to figure it out.
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01:46:47
Yeah.
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Now they’re talking about Pete Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris. That’s what they’re gonna run.
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01:46:52
Ai Alright. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You don’t fight against that?
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Apparently, they they don’t have any faith in Gavin Newsom.
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Meh. Yeah.
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Which is kinda funny because he wants to be president so bad.
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That’s what it that’s true what it looks like.
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He can’t ruin a city and then go on to ruin a state and say, guys, that was just practice.
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I know.
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Once I get it as president, I’m gonna fix it.
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I mean Fix it all. I mean, it’s so crazy, but he’s such a great politician. I meh, he’s so smooth.
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He’s mad at me. No. No. I think he’s terrible.
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How’s he remained in power for so long?
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Low competition.
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There’s no one who’s good
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is competing against him. There’s no sincerity.
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I should say he’s not a good I should say smooth. He comes down I
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mean, he’s a good bullshit artist.
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Yeah. That’s what I mean.
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But it’s ai, what the things that he says when he gets confronted with the we’re the ai highest this and the highest that. Like, everybody’s leaving. Yeah. You have the highest unemployment. Yeah. You have the highest homelessness.
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It’s the name of Hollywood. You have is missing.
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You killed Hollywood. Like, Hollywood doesn’t exist anymore. It’s literally gone.
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That was such a nice blow.
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Vaccines for kids that didn’t need them. You guys you did horrible shit.
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Yeah. It’s awful. We, I went to the one in 2017, so January 2017. So we decided not to go to this last one. And, because we felt like we experienced it last time, and there was all the the limos on fire and the the all the chain link fences as we were getting you know, going to all this stuff.
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So so ai not to go to this one, but then, then Tyler called and asked if I’d go to her, her swearing in. And so I was like, yeah. Of course. And, so we went to that one. And that was really cool. That was really cool to be in the room with her when she got sworn in.
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That is cool. That’s
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amazing. Yeah. Pamela.
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Have you talked to her about her experience there?
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Ai haven’t I don’t wanna bother her too much, but we just she just posted about the book, actually. I didn’t expect her to do that, but she did that today, which is very, very kind. But we do talk about that before.
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Of the the work That’s great. The reality of being in the organization is very sobering, apparently.
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I bet. Oh my gosh. It’s gotta be, like, nothing you whatever you think it is from the outside before you step in, it’s gotta be a thousand times worse at least when you step
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into it. It’s sai, and it’s very compartmentalized. There’s a bunch of people that run various offices, and they’re all working against you.
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Oh, the bureaucracy is so huge. And Yeah. I hope she stays in it. I mean, she’s such a a great person. I mean, I’d support her as we were friends. But, but, I mean, it’s gotta be hard to stay in that fight when you see it.
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Very hard. She’s got a lot of character. Yeah. That’s not that doesn’t get rewarded there. Yeah. No.
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I mean, I’d I’d, I mean, I would support her if and there’s a path for her, you know. And there’s there is definitely a path for her to, to get into the to the White House.
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Yeah. It could be. She could be our first female president, especially after, you know, we’ve seen, like, what they tried to do to her. They put her on the ai skies thing. Sai they put her on a terrorist watch list. She was a US congresswoman for eight fucking years. Mhmm. She served overseas in a meh unit. Right?
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So she was deployed twice in a medical unit in the middle of the fucking war and you you’re labeling her a terrorist. Ai, whoever did that, like, whoever signed off on that should be in fucking jail. Yeah. That’s crazy.
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I mean, so much of that stuff.
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That’s such an abuse. Yeah. That’s such an abuse of power. Yeah. And you sana talk about, like, going after your political enemies in a in a in a sick third world country way. That’s a great example of that. You put a a congresswoman for eight years in the terrorist watch for what? Right. For what reason? None? No reason?
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There’s not ai some crazy tweets where she’s made and there’s nothing like
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she’s so thoughtful.
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Even like Margarita Taylor Greene who gets hog wild sometimes. She’s not like
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that. Aggressive.
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Yeah. She’s a little aggressive. Like, Tulsi’s not like that at all. Yeah. So much like ai. Terrorist watch list. Mhmm. Shame on you. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking shame on you.
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Now she’s the director of National Intelligence.
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Crazy. Right?
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Yeah. Boy, it’s
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weird how that happens.
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Yeah. That’s fantastic. But, yeah, the next one, it’s, Ai mean, I I haven’t I haven’t read the book. But, it’s, Kamala’s book where she says she didn’t choose Pete Buttigieg Yeah. Because of his sexual orientation. Yeah. I I’m not sure about this. People can correct in the comments, please. But I believe that’s illegal. Like, if you didn’t hire someone because they were had a certain sexual orientation, I believe that’s illegal.
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But you’re allowed to choose who you think is gonna work the best if you want
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to meh the right way. Of and you’d say something else, like, oh, they’re not qualified. You cannot I mean, I believe well, someone can tell us if we’re if I’m wrong, we could probably look it up, but I do not think you can do the discriminate against someone strictly because of that.
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If they’re not qualified, of course, you choose someone else, fine. But she goes ahead and says that’s the reason that she didn’t hire this guy to be her VP. Wow. I believe that is illegal.
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Wow. I never even thought of that.
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It’s insane.
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Well, she also has been saying something really crazy. She’s been saying that this is the closest race of the twenty first century, and it wasn’t a mandate. I know. That’s just not true.
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It’s not true.
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But Gore and Bush was much closer. Yes. I think that was a half of a percent.
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It’s yes. I don’t know why she keeps saying this.
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She’s it’s just a lie. And then, also, she’s she’s leaving out the fact that she lost every swing state. Every single one. Yeah. So Yeah. Like, what are you talking about?
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I know. It’s crazy.
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He won the popular vote, and he won the electoral college vote. Oh, man. And that’s sai mandate. Ai, shah said that it’s not a mandate. It’s like but it’s almost like if you say it to the the converted that they’re gonna listen and repeat it. Yeah. He barely won.
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Right.
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Like, no, he won. Yeah. He won every swing state. He won the popular vote. Yeah. That’s called winning. You win the house and you win the sana, that he won. That means he won.
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Charlie’s call is that winning.
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This is crazy talk.
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Yeah. It’s wild. It
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is so wild. Probably hammered. And, yeah, he’s probably up there drinking
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wine. Oh.
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And I’ll fucking kick his ass next time. Fuck him.
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It’s so brutal. And, and I think she’s took credit for the no tax on tips things in the book as well.
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That’s hilarious because that was clearly his. Clearly. He said it first, and they copied it.
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It’s amazing.
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Did she really say that in the book?
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I haven’t read it, but Ai, I I have heard from someone who did read it that she did. So Ai, you know, people just had
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to She had an address not coming on here in the book too, which I thought was funny.
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Yeah. That was interesting. Yeah.
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Their her team was not truthful about that encounter at all. They never committed to doing the show ever. Yeah. They they said that, you know, I said that I had a personal day, which is not true. I said I am not available the day that Trump was here. I said that day is not I didn’t say that I was have a personal day. They just made that up. That’s crazy.
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And then they also said that they sent someone here to go through the studio, ai, sent someone to do a walk through. Yeah. Not true. No. Not true.
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That how can I mean, it’s
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just you repeat it sana you say it and your side believes ai? Why would they
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do that when I ai just say that’s not true? It’s bizarre. But who’s who are they gonna believe? They’re gonna believe me or a person who literally says whatever Right. The audience wants them to sai?
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Essentially, lies for a living. Yeah.
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Yeah. I’m not why would I lie? I have no reason to lie.
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So it sai it would have been interesting to
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If I fucked her over, I would tell the truth.
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Yeah.
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If I was like, we lied. Yeah.
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We lied. We told her I was
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taking a personal day but ai Sai wanted to get Trump in. Not true. I tried to do both of them in the same day.
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01:53:49
Oh, wow.
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That was my idea. That would’ve been amazing. My idea was to do Trump during the day and then her to come she had a a thing she was doing in Houston. After the thing with Houston, I go, I’ll fucking do it at midnight. I don’t care. We’ll do it whenever you wanna do
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it. Yeah.
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While you’re in Texas, but I I just can’t do during the day because Trump’s gonna be here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But they had to have known. I mean, the secret service was there’s 200 guys here. They they had fucking
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In Texas?
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No. In this fucking studio. No. There’s 200 people here for Trump.
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For Trump.
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Yeah. I mean, I’m not exaggerating. It was packed.
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Wow. It was packed.
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That’s crazy. Bro, they didn’t fuck around. Okay. They did not fuck around. They surrounded the building. It was it was nuts. Interesting. Yeah. They they made sure that everything was safe and secure. Wow. So, like, someone had to know something that he was here.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like, it’s not a mystery. But I said Bring your
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dogs through.
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But I wasn’t trying to be deceptive. I said, I’ll do it later. Right. I just can’t do it during this time. That’s the excuse they took. They sana do it.
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That’s ai, okay. They took that excuse. They never
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wanted to do the
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whole thing. Never.
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They wanted to meh do ai a forty five minute thing Scripted. In a different place. They didn’t say scripted, but they they did say that there’s some things that she didn’t sana talk about. Then they denied that. Yeah.
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That’s what I meant by scripted. Yeah.
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I said I don’t care. I’ll talk to you about cooking. I don’t give a fuck. I just wanna know who are you. I’ll figure you out. Yeah. I’ll figure you out in a few hours.
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Yeah. In three hours, you can’t fake your way through the conversation.
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No. I’ll find you. Yeah. I’ll find you. Yeah. I’ll ask you controversial things. Is all I have to do is ask you ai is the border open? We can talk about that for three hours. Oh meh gosh. What are you trying to do? Right. Like, you could close that border.
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Trump closed that border in a day. Amazing. In a day. It’s ai you could sai, I hate what’s going on with Ai and I don’t like it either. I don’t like this thing of, like, taking people. And here’s the thing. Well, they should have done it the right way. Yeah. Okay.
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But if you’re poor and you live in a third world country, that’s not an available option. Okay? What is an available option is this one administration over four years is encouraging people to go through. Yeah. Not only they’re encouraging you to go through, there’s Meh Cross stops along the way. They give you maps. They tell you how to do it.
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People are being they’re funding people getting in. They’re paying for air flights.
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Yeah.
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They’re flying people in. They’re moving people into swing states. They’re getting them on Medicare. They’re getting them on social security. There’s we talked to about this one lady who did an interview. We’re saying shah was being told to try to get people on permanent disability.
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So she would told to ask them, do you have back problems? And they’re like, yes. Okay. Great. Personal disability.
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Now that she she sai, Ai I was told to view them as a client now. Mhmm. And so you’re trying essentially to bribe people to now, once you get them in, to move to a swing state, then they count on the census. Once they count on the census, it adds congressional seats.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So it’s like you’re you’re rigging elections Yeah. By bringing in immigrants and then you’re giving them money. And now all these people that live in these poor communities, they’re like, hey, where was all this money for us?
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Right.
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Where was all this money for the people in Chicago? Where was all this money for the people in Baltimore? No. No. It’s they’re they’re doing it because they’re trying to manipulate the election. It didn’t work. You know, it didn’t work. Like, I had an argument with someone about it, but, yeah, it didn’t work though. I go, yeah, but they tried to do it.
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It didn’t work, but they did move people to swing states. Yeah. They did leave the border open for four years. They did let in millions of people. They don’t even know how many. They don’t know how many people got through. Yeah. That’s crazy. Once they got him here, they did give him EBT cards.
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They did give him cell phones. They did. They moved him into the fucking hotel that Roosevelt Hotel in New York City, vatsal luxury hotel
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01:57:32
Right.
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Filled with migrants. They paid for their food. They did do this. They encouraged people. They did have sanctuary cities where they weren’t gonna arrest them. They let them come in.
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01:57:42
Still do Portland right now. It’s a But bananas. Crazy.
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01:57:46
But what Do you
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think you could have that conversation, let’s say, fifteen years ago, that kind of a conversation with Kamala if she was around back then. Let’s let’s fat back up fifteen years. Or is talking to all these amazing people that you’ve talked to over the the the time this podcast has been in existence has given you this incredible foundation from which to be able to ask, like, such incredible questions of people and get this stuff out of them and and
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Fifteen years ago, I would never thought that it would have mattered at all Yeah. If I had an opinion on anything. Yeah. It would be like most comics that are doing podcast today where they’re just shooting the shit to their friends and no one cares.
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01:58:19
Right.
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No one cares. You know, I wanna vote for this guy because I think we need ai libertarianism and this is why I think it, like, oh, who cares? And then, interesting conversation Yeah. Moves on. Not that, like, so many people care what my fucking opinion is. Like, that to me is a sign of the times.
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Like, if you’re coming to a cage fighting commentator and a dirty comedian, like, this is this is the guy that you needed an opinion for, that means the media sai failed you. Like, what I am a I’m a symptom of a broken system. Like, if I’m a source of information, like, we’ve got a, like, a bit of a supply chain problem.
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01:58:54
Yeah. That’s how Ai I don’t know. I think it’s being being a little humble on that as well because where else could someone get this three hours, where they can really listen to maybe two sides of of
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01:59:03
Right. But my point is why didn’t somebody else do that already? Why didn’t why didn’t mainstream media figure that out? Why did you need someone to figure it out in on a laptop in fucking spare bedroom of their house? Ai, how is that possible? The number one media show in the world that’s birthed out of a laptop in a spare bedroom? It doesn’t make any sense. Well, no. No. No.
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It means they failed. Yeah. Because there’s a lot smarter people than me, a lot better people at dissecting what’s actually going on in the world than meh. But for whatever reason, they can’t do it. So how come?
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01:59:36
How you know, ai they’ve like there’s a bunch of people from the New York Times ai try to try, but they’re all bullshitting.
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01:59:43
Exactly.
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They’re never free to give their real opinion. They’re never free to say, you know what? Actually, this person that I disagree with fundamentally has a really good point about this.
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Right.
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You know, they have instead ai captured, which is like most of them, most of them on the ai and most of them on the left. Instead of just being able to look at things and go that this is the actual reality that we’re living in, that’s a failure. That’s a failure of media. It’s a failure of journalism. It’s a failure. Yeah. And then they say, oh, you know, he’s not a journalist. You’re right. So how come people are listening?
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Ai, what is that about? You tell me why no one else can have these kind of conversations with people and and and break it down this way. Well, it’s because you’re limited by your your whole system. If you’re involved in mainstream media, you’re limited by the format. The format sucks. You have to break for commercials.
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02:00:35
You’re sponsored by brought to you by Pfizer. So either there’s certain things you can’t talk about. You’ve got handcuffs on.
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02:00:40
Mhmm.
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And if you’re on the Internet and you’re ideologically aligned with either the left or the right Mhmm. Well, now you’re captured by this box of predetermined opinions that you’re supposed to subscribe to.
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02:00:53
Yep. But you’re working as an opportunity and I do. Throughout history. Ai I didn’t. Well well, we did something.
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02:00:59
Ai just kept this I’m telling you, man. This is not a plan.
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02:01:02
I know. Sai kept doing it. But yeah.
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02:01:04
You just kept doing it, and then all of a bryden, it became what it is.
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02:01:07
But you ai you could plug in a laptop, and you could have a video. You could have a conversation.
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02:01:11
But it was all just for fun. Yeah. See, that’s why it worked. It worked because there was no plan. It was just ai, let’s do this and it’ll be fun. And then people tune in because it’s fun. And then I start getting like Graham Hancock on and Anthony Bourdain on and getting some guests and it’s ai of fun and it’s kinda cool.
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02:01:28
And then it becomes a cool thing that if you know, you know, like, oh, you listen to podcast, check this one out. Oh, yeah.
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02:01:32
Oh, yeah.
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02:01:33
Yeah. Joe Rogan’s got good guests. Right. Ask good questions. And then it became what it is now, but it’s Yeah. It’s all just because I enjoy doing it. It was never because I recognized, like, oh, there’s an opening out there.
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02:01:43
No. No. I didn’t mean it like that. I meant, like, it’s very it was very natural. That’s that’s also a part of it. Like, it’s not like you’re like, what can I do? Like, no. That’s not that. No. Or some people do do that. Like, hey. What can be my thing?
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02:01:53
Oh, okay. X, y, and z. Okay. I’ll give speaking about events on this certain thing, and, okay, that’s my thing now because I ai there’s a gap. Okay.
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02:02:00
I’m gonna do that. That’s different. That’s not moving the needle probably for anybody in that audience, maybe for one person or something like that. And you’re not looking at it like that. You’re doing it because it it was this very natural thing for you to do, and it happened to grow into what it is today, which is amazing, which makes it even more powerful that it was natural than you weren’t this artificial guy over here saying, what’s the opportunity?
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02:02:18
Oh, I can get make x dollars by speaking about this topic to this audience. Okay. I’m gonna do that and be happy or whatever. Instead, it was the opposite of that. It’s very vatsal, and so it’s a very different thing as far as opportunity goes.
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02:02:31
Well, that’s the weirdness about today. Right? It’s because you could just start a YouTube channel. Like, anybody who’s a doctor or a historian Mhmm. Could just start a YouTube channel and just start talking.
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02:02:41
Yeah. Like,
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02:02:42
just think about all the stuff that you learned about Vietnam Yeah. From from writing this book.
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02:02:46
Yeah.
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02:02:46
You could just speak down moments ai Dan Carlin style about Vietnam and just sit there and and talk about it and people be ai, that’s fascinating. Jack Arya in Vietnam, you’ve seen this video and then it’ll get passed around. Next thing you know, it’s got sana half a million views.
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02:03:01
Next thing you know, it’s got a million, and then everybody’s sharing it in social media. That’s the most fascinating thing about today. Like, if you say something cool and it becomes a part of a clip and somebody likes it, it gets blasted Yeah. All over the whole world.
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02:03:16
Right.
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02:03:16
It’s on TikTok. It’s on x. It’s on Ram, and then it’s on YouTube and, like, a 100 different channels. Yeah. There’s all these channels that pop up, and they take advantage of the algorithms, and
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02:03:28
they take these little clips. I can’t do that. I can never do something for clicks or for anything like that.
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02:03:32
I don’t either. I know.
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02:03:33
I know.
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02:03:33
Other people will.
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02:03:34
I know.
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02:03:35
You don’t have
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to do
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02:03:36
it. That’s what’s interesting. Yeah. The vast majority of our clips online have nothing to do with us. I didn’t put them up there. I don’t know who the fucking person is that’s editing them and clipping them together. Some of those cuts even put their own watermark on it. Like, whoever you are, cut me shit. That’s not, you know, ai, oh, I got it. I do your thing. Mind of a winner, like oh,boy..com.
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02:03:57
Like, fuck
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02:03:58
off. Oh, boy.
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02:03:58
Yeah. They do that stuff. Yeah. And they put their own little fucking website on it.
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02:04:02
Yeah.
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But it’s just it’s a weird time. It’s a weird time for the distribution of information. And mainstream media, they drop the ball. They they missed these openings. They and they’re not capable of being free. Yep. There’s too many cooks in the like, all the notes that you were getting on season one. Mhmm. Right?
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02:04:20
You don’t get them anymore because it’s successful. Like, that’s kind of every show on television has got to deal with all these goddamn cooks. Yeah. All these chefs. Yeah.
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Ai, add a little of this and add a little of that. If meh, you can’t do it. You can’t do it. You can’t do it.
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No. It’s like we’re talking about earlier. Now people are trying to get that clip. So their life and their their their their income is ai on trying to get that clip. But I think what they don’t realize is that that’s a blip. You know? Ai, like, that’s a what’s a one thing, and then it’s back down back down here. It’s not a boom and then going from there.
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You have to continually add value to people’s lives, I think, long term if you’re gonna build something of substance. And that’s what you you have done, obviously. And, it’s incredible to watch and, you know, be, be a part of from the audience side and then to to, you know, do your ai and all that stuff.
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Fucking weird shit.
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I know. Weird. But then we see that stuff ai with Charlie Kirk and people trying to take advantage of that to get a click.
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02:05:09
I know.
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02:05:09
And it’s so it’s bryden. And I don’t know what it is what going forward, like, when you think about communication in general and a long time ago, the telephone used to connect us with our our grandparents, let’s say, states away, used to connect us. And now the telephone, it disconnects us from that person who’s sitting right here next to us on the couch, our spouse or our kids or anything else.
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02:05:28
So it used communication used to connect us now. A communication device, which does obviously a lot more than that, is a tracking device, surveillance device, all these other things. But it’s, it disconnects us from those that are we’re in the same room with. Yeah. And that’s a that’s a different deal.
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02:05:42
And that’s why when I look at long term when we’re talking about and you always remain so hopeful about the future, and I love it. And I try to remain hopeful as well. But when you think about it in those types of terms, like, this thing’s not going away. And what’s next? MediGlasses. Okay.
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02:05:53
We got the MediGlasses. They gave me some at UFC, actually.
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02:05:56
Me too.
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02:05:56
Did they? Have
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you fucked with them yet? No. Because I
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02:05:57
left them under my seat, and as soon as they gave them to me Oh, no. I knew I was gonna leave them under that seat. They handed it to me when Ai came in. I’m like, I’m a 100% leaving this behind. Put it under the seat. I told them, Monica, I’m like, Monica, remind me to bring these things with me. And then we just had such a great time. We totally forgot. The Chicago one.
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02:06:12
Yeah.
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They gave them to me as I was leaving. Thanks.
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Well, how would it make more sense?
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Abd them. I’m like, thank you very much, and I have them.
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Have Have you done it? Have you put them on?
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I put them on when they were here. I haven’t done the new ones, but I I’ve I’ve done several versions. I’ve tried them. Okay. They’re pretty fucking incredible. It’s pretty I’m not wearing them. Yeah. But we’ve had to stop people wearing them at the comedy club. They try ai film things with meh glasses on. Oh, funny.
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02:06:35
It’s interesting.
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02:06:36
All glasses have to go in the pouch just like the phones last night.
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02:06:39
Everybody who works there knows what a meta glasses.
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02:06:41
Right. But now they do. But then Yeah. What ai five years from now when you put them in anything?
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02:06:45
Well, it’s gonna be contact
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02:06:47
lenses. Oh.
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And and then it’s gonna be over.
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02:06:48
And then it’s gonna be in the brain, some sort
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of implant. Yeah. There’ll be a there there’ll be some sort of a hard drive that you go by. Yeah.
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02:06:55
Nope. Not for me.
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02:06:56
Yeah. No. Not for me either. But we’re the last we’re the last of the regular people.
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02:07:00
Because it’s gonna be normal now.
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02:07:02
It’s gonna yeah. It’s gonna be a cyborg nation. Yeah.
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02:07:05
Sai Ai like how you’re hopeful. You’re hopeful earlier.
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02:07:08
No. I am still hopeful. I mean, I hope it works out well, but it’s change is inevitable and our change is technologically driven and it’s an integration.
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02:07:19
Yeah.
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02:07:19
The the the the integration between this incredible technology that’s available now to everybody through these AI platforms and then your phone and then your ai. Like, this meh people are wearing them Apple watches and they’re getting text messages and emails and making phone calls on the watch.
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02:07:35
I know. It’s awful. I I judge someone immediately when I see an Apple watch, unless it’s for health reasons. But I see someone with Apple vatsal, I immediately judge. But that’s the same thing, using the watch to tell a story about the person or gear, whatever it might be, 1911, 1945, the new staccato that tells me something about that person, you know, what kind of hat they wear, belt they wear, leather ai, kydex setup, like, all those things, Sana shoes versus, you know, whatever, Oakley’s versus gators.
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02:07:57
Like, all those things tell me something about a person, but I immediately judge, make judgments based on ai little very little information, and that that watch tells me something. And then they get into the Tesla, and I’m like, oh, okay. Apple Watch, Tesla. You know? And, some of those things that seem like they just have no soul.
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02:08:11
You know what I mean?
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There’s just
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like a
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The Apple Watch thing is weird because it’s ai, do you really need it all on your wrist? Buzzing all the ai. And it you have to charge it every day. And then, like, I have a Arya. Then it’s a digital watch. It’s got maps on it and stuff like that, but I use it when I go hunting. And I can put that fucker on full charge.
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02:08:30
It’ll go, like, a month and a half. Mhmm. And it’ll charge partially because of solar.
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02:08:35
I can do less than that. I got nothing else to charge. Ai if they give me something else to charge, I can’t But the thing about those,
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02:08:40
Garnt, what I like about them is, like, you could sync it up to your range finder. There’s a bunch of different things you do. You could have maps on it. Yeah. And if you had to get out of somewhere Yeah. And you’re fucked and you’re in the woods, you could pull up the GPS on your watch and you could figure out where the trail head is and you can get out.
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02:08:57
You could figure out where the road systems are and you can get out. You can just say, okay, I just have to go do north for six miles and I’m gonna hit a road. Like, that’s that could save your life. Like, if you’re in the middle of the woods, you don’t know what the fuck is going on sana something happens, and you’re like, okay, we have to get out of here.
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02:09:13
We can’t go back the way we came. How do I how do I get this some form of civilization?
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02:09:18
Ai a mapping compass guy. I’m a mapping compass guy.
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02:09:21
That’s great.
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02:09:22
Map ram compass. Yeah. The Waltham compass. I put that in the it’s in the book right here. The Vietnam guys had them on on their Sega Wars. Yeah. Yeah. Those are awesome. So I had one of those near me as I was writing the book as well. And, we put one into the show, Dark Wolf.
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02:09:33
The guys are on the fire in the first episode. Jared’s there as Booser, and Pratt’s there, and Taylor’s there, and, Tom Hopper’s there on this fire. And that scene, I think, is one of the best ones. And, Tom gets a gift from from Reese, from from Chris Pratt, and he opens it.
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02:09:45
And it’s that, that risk compass from Vietnam. That’s really cool. Now that scene was really cool to see see Jared in particular, buddy from the Speak teams who gives Chris the book. Now he’s an actor. He’s a executive producer, a writer, wrote an episode, and text ai four things on that show.
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02:10:00
That’s awesome.
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02:10:01
Got to act a lot more in this one, and it’s so so good.
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02:10:03
So cool.
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02:10:03
I hope it always poaches him away from us. He’s so good in this in all of those things. So So I gotta gotta keep close hold with, on Jared. He’s ai fantastic in it. But, but that scene in particular, I think a lot of people who are in Iraq and Afghanistan that speak time around the fire or any any warriors who speak time around the fire or of hunters that spend time around the fire will, identify with that scene, the sharing of stories, between hunters and warriors.
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02:10:25
And that was that was a powerful scene to to film. And we did that early on. That was the first, like, week of filming. It was pretty cool.
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02:10:30
That’s awesome. Most people don’t know how to use sai compass at all.
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02:10:34
You know? Sai, Ai I’d I’d I’d do well with the compass and the map, but not so good with the Garmin. I’d be like, where’s my Have you ever
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02:10:39
figured out a way to use your watch as a compass?
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02:10:41
I know there’s a a thing that can do, but I don’t know how to do that.
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02:10:44
Have, like, dials that, like like Yeah. So it looks like a diver dial, but it’s north, south, east, west.
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02:10:50
I think you have to wait on the the shadow or something. You can do that with a stick in ground also the whole whole thing.
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02:10:54
There’s a whole process to figuring out, excuse me, where east, northwest, east, and then Yeah. Somehow another user watch.
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02:11:03
Yeah. No. There’s something like that. But, yeah. Map compass, the, the sun across the sky, where it is, time of day, and that’s how
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02:11:09
it’s going to be. Stuff.
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02:11:10
Right? Yeah. Well, when there’s hope.
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02:11:11
Rises in the east, sets in the west. But when you’re basics. When you’re looking at your watch, there’s some sort of way to figure out where everything is. I don’t get it.
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02:11:19
Yeah. I think there was on, what was it? Wild what was the Bear Grylls shah? I think you talked about it in one of those Mhmm. Those whole shows.
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02:11:25
Yeah. I went I watched the whole YouTube video on it. I’m like, I don’t get it. I still don’t
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02:11:28
get it. Oh, man.
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02:11:29
But there’s, you know, everybody has a compass on their phone now too.
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02:11:32
I know it. And then that thing dies. I don’t know. I don’t know.
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02:11:34
That’s a problem.
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02:11:35
Plug anything in. But, did you get a hunt this year? What’s that?
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02:11:38
Did
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02:11:38
you get hunting this year? Yeah. Yeah. Did you get to Utah? Utah. Nice.
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02:11:41
Yeah. I
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think I remember when you were there, and we I was I was in Morocco, I think. It was a last couple of months, Sai which is I was
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02:11:47
there week to the fifteenth.
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02:11:48
Oh, okay. Right after. Okay.
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02:11:50
It was great.
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We caught
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it right in the rut.
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02:11:52
Nice. I was in Morocco. Yeah. Yep. But you, it was it was a good time? Yeah.
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02:11:55
We had a good time. Yeah. It was awesome. It was beautiful.
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02:11:58
I’ve been out a ai. Been been to Lanai. Done that just because it’s an easy, you know, flight out there. Say the Four Seasons, the family. Love it. Did you bow hunt out there? No. Ai right. I went with the kids. So for meh, when I go out now, it’s all about the the kids and getting them out there on the rifle.
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02:12:11
Rifle hunting in Lanai is infinitely more effective. Yes.
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02:12:15
Agreed. Agreed.
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02:12:15
Bow hunting in Lanai is really hard. And it seems crazy because there’s so many animals, but the success rate is really low.
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02:12:24
Yeah. Yeah. Those especially those those winds and swirling and everything like that. But, but if you’re on the ai and you need you need to get back to Nobu, in time for dinner, then, Ai tell you, you use that rifle, you know?
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02:12:34
Yeah. Also, it’s the best way to get the meat, and there that’s the best meh. Like, it right up there with elk almost.
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02:12:40
Yeah.
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02:12:40
Yeah. It’s just ai slightly less desirable to me than elk.
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02:12:44
Is it?
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02:12:44
Yeah. Axis deer. Axis deer is really good. So good. Delicious. And that’s one of the cool things about, if you stay on Lanai, which is the there’s two four seasons there, and the four seasons that’s on the water is incredible. Yep. But they have these, these Axis Burger sliders.
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02:13:00
Oh, yeah.
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02:13:01
Oh. Axis deer sliders are so good. Oh. And the carpaccio.
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02:13:05
Do you have the carpaccio there?
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02:13:06
I’ve had everything there.
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02:13:06
It’s freaking great.
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02:13:07
Yeah. It’s great. But it’s, what a weird place where you can hunt deer during the day and then stay at the Four Seasons.
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02:13:12
Not bad. The other one’s a Sensei Speak now up top, so they switched it up. And so it’s this crazy yeah. It’s this crazy high end spa in the old Four Seasons. The one that look used to look like a hunting lodge type of a thing. Right. So that’s a Sensei Spa now. But, yeah, it’s a good time. Ai this is the only hunting I’ve been doing the last few years now.
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02:13:27
Part of the Ai Brothers. Right?
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02:13:28
Like, you’re
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02:13:29
one of the the organization that runs the
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02:13:30
Yeah.
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02:13:30
Me and John out there.
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02:13:32
Yeah. Alec out there
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02:13:33
who’s the They have a lot of people come out there every year?
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02:13:35
Yeah. It’s pretty packed. Pretty booked. Yeah. Pretty booked all year because the family gets speak go. It’s very unique in that respect. Sure. So that’s also the family.
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02:13:42
Yeah. It’s also it’s like such a there’s first of all, you have to hunt them.
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02:13:47
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:13:47
There’s 30,000 deer
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02:13:48
Yeah.
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On an island with 3,000 people. Yeah. That is so crazy.
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02:13:52
Yeah.
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02:13:52
And if you see them at night in particular, when you, like, shine a headlight out to the field, you’re ai, there’s no way this is sustainable. It’s not. So they they literally have to hunt them. Yeah.
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02:14:01
And hunting is such a big part of the Hawaiian culture too. People don’t realize that. They think of the beaches and everything else, don’t realize how how big the part of culture that really is.
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02:14:08
Yeah. But that’s where the luau is all about. Right?
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02:14:10
There you go.
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02:14:11
Wild pig hunting.
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02:14:11
That’s it.
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02:14:12
They’re using they’re not using farm raised pigs.
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02:14:14
Yeah. Maybe they might be in some places. I don’t know.
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02:14:17
Yeah. I’m sure some resorts are using that. But for the traditional way, it was like you’re hunting pigs.
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02:14:22
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:14:22
And those pigs were brought over by sailors. That’s how they got on that island in the first place.
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02:14:27
Well, the axis came over from India, so it’s all coming over from some place. But it’s nice there’s no snakes too.
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02:14:31
That’s true. That is nice. Mhmm. And there’s nothing that’s an animal that can kill you on land.
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02:14:37
That’s that’s pretty good. Different than Australia.
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02:14:40
But in the water. Yeah.
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02:14:41
Oh, yeah. You wanna hence ai you don’t surf.
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02:14:43
It gets a little squirrelly. Yeah. It vatsal little squirrelly out there with the biker sharks.
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02:14:47
Yeah. Hundred percent chance of not getting eaten by a shark if you don’t go in the water.
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02:14:50
Yeah. Fuck all of that, dude.
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02:14:52
Same thing with skydiving. Like, I’m done with the skydiving. No more. No more than that.
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02:14:55
Yeah. Please.
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02:14:56
Yeah. That seems unnecessary at this point. Stop
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02:14:58
Tom Cruise.
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02:14:58
Exactly. Tom Cruise. We just cut the shah. You did it on the red. Yeah. Yeah. We can do it on the green screen now. Come on. Enough, buddy. Enough. Yeah. So no yeah. No more of that sorta sorta thing. It’s fun as it as fun as it was. The flying around was always fun. Mhmm.
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02:15:11
But the jumping, the flying around, great. And then when you have to go to pull through that sequence, it’s like that’s when that’s the moment of truth. And if you know this doesn’t work, then there are procedures you need to go through in order to get this secondary Yep. Get the backup shoot going.
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02:15:24
Nightmare.
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02:15:24
Yeah. No. No. Not good. No. No. I’m good. But, I’ll go in the water, though. I’ll still go in the water with the sharks, but not, a bunch of meh planes. But, yeah. We’re down in Nicaragua last, what, a few months ago? The kids were surfing and all that stuff, but I’m thinking about sharks the whole time. You know Adam Greentree? Yeah. I don’t know him personally about anything he is.
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02:15:41
Adam, told me that, I’m sorry if I told this story yesterday, folks, but Adam, Spearfishes. He said that the sharks have learned the sound of the spear gun going off. And so somebody gave him flippers that had scales on them because they thought it was cool to give him flippers, and these bull sharks showed up after he shot a fish and they bit his fucking flippers off.
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02:16:02
Stop.
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02:16:02
Yes. Because the flippers had scales on them.
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02:16:05
Well, don’t use those anymore.
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02:16:06
Yeah. Fuck all that. I’m like, why did you he goes, I was thinking about it, Mike. This isn’t good. I’m like, ai. It’s not good. It’s not good. He goes, and then they bit him off meh feet. Yeah. Like, oh ai god.
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02:16:16
Have you seen the lady that swims with the sharks? Ai those popped up on your YouTube? Yeah.
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02:16:20
Yeah.
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02:16:20
I mean, it’s like the I mean, I hate to say it, but, like, the grizzly guy. What happened to the grizzly guy?
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02:16:25
Well, I think she knows what she’s doing, and I think it’s a little different because sharks don’t target people. Most of the times when they’re killing people, it’s an accident because they think the people’s a seal.
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02:16:34
Meh. Maybe.
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02:16:37
Maybe. Right? I don’t know.
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02:16:38
Exactly. Exactly. I mean, there’s that like, the SeaWorld one. Remember the SeaWorld That’s different. Ai, like, took that lady down? Yeah.
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02:16:44
But that’s different. They don’t ever do that in the wild. Orcas in the wild don’t kill people. They only kill people when people fuck with them. That’s all it is. One of the one of the things that’s been happening lately is they’ve been sinking boats.
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02:16:55
I saw those videos. That’s crazy.
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02:16:56
Yeah. They decide fuck you and start sinking boats.
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02:16:59
That’s amazing. That’s something that we haven’t seen before. Right?
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02:17:01
No. It’s very new. Crazy. It’s ai within this decade. Yeah. It’s a very recent thing and it’s one particular part of the world where it seems to be occurring over and over again. Ai I don’t know what happened. Like, maybe somebody fucked with a killer whale. Like, maybe somebody did something terrible.
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02:17:16
Maybe. And then that that sonar or whatever they talk goes out there, like
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02:17:19
Where they’re attacking killer whales? Because, like, you’re talking about evil and wealthy people, and we’re getting into that thing. You know what I mean? Mhmm. Like, and they’re attacking yachts. Mhmm. You know what I’m saying? Mhmm.
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02:17:28
Like, how
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02:17:29
many Interesting. How many cunts are on a yacht? They’re like, let’s shoot the killer whale. Mhmm. And they’re firing rifles at killer whales.
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02:17:37
Maybe. And they’re like, oh, yeah? Yeah. How about some of this action? Bam. Ai mean, there’s shitheads out there. Ai boat roaming orcas.
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02:17:42
Oh, there’s a new theory about why orcas are targeting sailboats in the Iberian Peninsula. They’re using them to practice hunting their favorite food. I don’t like
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02:17:50
your theory. I
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02:17:51
think your theory sucks.
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02:17:52
I’m not buying it.
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02:17:53
I bet somebody was an asshole. I bet someone killed one of those orcas.
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02:17:58
Would you go down with the, with the shark cage off of, ai
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02:18:01
down? No fucking way.
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02:18:04
No. I did. I used to go to the guy to
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02:18:06
sit. With my family once. A long time ago, we did, we, not scuba ai, but snorkeled. Yeah. We snorkeled with dolphins.
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02:18:13
Okay.
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02:18:13
That was pretty badass. Yeah. So you find a pot of dolphins Okay. And then you jump overboard. Nice. And you can get, you know, within, like, fifty, sixty yards of them and they swim around. It’s kinda cool. You sai him swimming underwater and shit. It’s pretty badass. Yeah. That was cool. But they they don’t they’re not interested in you. They’re like, get out of here. Yeah.
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02:18:30
But if you’re on a boat, they are interested
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02:18:32
in you.
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02:18:32
It’s interesting. Like, when maybe it was just the the circumstance that we had, maybe sometimes they come and play with you. But I’ve been on boats before where they come right up next to the boat and they jump and they’re they’re put on a show for you.
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02:18:43
Yeah.
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02:18:44
Like, as the boat is moving its way through the water, they’re they’re flipping and they’re looking at you. They’re ai looking at you and they come out of the water.
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02:18:50
Yeah.
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02:18:50
And it’s really clear that they’re kinda playful.
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02:18:53
Right.
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02:18:53
And they’re interacting with people. Right.
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02:18:55
Different than the sharks that come into the shark cage and just crunch it. You see one of the guy Sai would have done that a long time ago. I don’t know if I ai it now.
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02:19:01
Oh, the one guy with the shark that comes in.
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02:19:03
Yeah. I mean, come on. Yeah. Yeah. Updated article from Yeah. Last month about this same group of Jaws came out again. It was like a fiftieth anniversary or something, so I saw it in the theater with my son. And, it was pretty cool to see in the theater.
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02:19:16
Okay. Here it is. The while some initial reports suggested that the Iberian orcas could be carrying out revenge against the ships, this has been dismissed by many arya experts. Ai? The encounters often involve young orcas going straight for the rudders. Scientists have suggested the orcas are likely just bored teenagers with more free time since Atlantic bluefin tuna population, their favorite prey in the region, recovered, meaning they need to spend less time hunting.
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02:19:44
What does it Say click on dismissed by many orca experts. Click on that link. I want to find out why they think it’s dismissed. Like, what’s their rationalization?
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02:19:52
Oh, wow.
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Open letter to regarding Iberian orcas and their interactions with boats. Undersigned are experts in biology behavior of cetaceans with several, specializing in orcas, also known as tyler whales. There’s been intense public interest in interactions between orcas as the, Iberian orcas and marine vessels along the coast of the Iberian Peninsula and in neighboring waters.
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We are concerned that factual errors regarding these interactions are being repeated in the media saloni with a narrative lacking a basis in science or reality that the animals are aggressively attacking vessels or seeking revenge against meh. Well, first of all Mhmm. Stop right there. They are aggressively attacking vessels. I watched it. Yeah. There’s a video you can watch.
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02:20:37
Sana looks like it.
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02:20:38
These people are on the boat and it starts slamming in the boat and it sinks the boat. Like, what is that?
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02:20:42
Guys, people are freaking out on that boat too. Of course, you ai.
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I think it’s probably people arya oh, the whales have shown a wide range of behaviors during the interactions. Many of them consistent with playful social behavior. Yeah. Because they’re having a good time sinking these boats. Ai, you just stop.
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02:20:56
I don’t know.
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People in their fucking narratives.
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02:20:59
All I’m saying is the grizzly guy gets eaten by the grizzly, the rattlesnake guy gets bit by the rattlesnake, the sharp person, I mean, I just I worry.
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02:21:05
It could certainly happen. Right. It certainly could happen. Right. With the Grizzly Ai, though, I think that was Suicide by Bear.
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you watch that documentary?
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No. I just I’ve heard about it so many times. I feel like I’ve seen it.
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02:21:16
It’s a fun documentary. Yeah. It’s Werner Herzog. Right. He’s brilliant, and he he turns it into a comedy. It is kind of a comedy. It’s like an unintentional comedy about a guy who’s really fucking stupid
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02:21:26
Yeah.
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And hangs out with bears way too long Yeah. And eventually gets eaten.
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02:21:30
Man, I went up there in Alaska going up to the rivers, bear hunting. And, I mean, you’re walking right by him. It is insane just looking for the right one and, someone’s got an old one. And it’s crazy how close you you get and how comfortable the guides are working their way up these river systems off of both sailing on a boat.
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02:21:46
You go in, and then you work your way up to the day and come back. And, but it was it was wild to be so close. I’m ai, I’m very nervous because you always hear about don’t get between the mom and the cubs type thing, and you’re walking right by them. You’re like, okay. You know? Here we go. And they’re so big. Yeah. Yeah. The three seven five for, for that one. Meh. It’s the Ai three seven five. Ironsight? Yeah.
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02:22:05
Yeah. How come?
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Just because it’s gonna be close.
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Oh. Oh, Jesus.
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Yeah. Fog. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Fog. Ai don’t wanna worry about, like, the the condensation on the on the Right. If you’re right down there.
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02:22:17
Where how close is the shot? It’s very wet. I didn’t take one, but
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we had one. Yeah. Very wet. Yeah. Everything’s just soaking meh. And it’s just fog, mist, the whole the whole thing. So, the only one we had, we had a charge. And, I think I told you that. I can’t remember. Had a charge, and the thing ai came in. He was a little young. She was ai my guide said it was a a female guy. She’s amazing. She said, he’s legal.
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02:22:35
I’m like, that’s not what you wanna hear. You know, you want something that’s really old. Yeah. And, you wanna be contributing to this, you know, conservation. He’s young.
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You know, I didn’t ai to hear.
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Legal is not a word you wanna hear
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when you’re hunting. No. No. And that but it was curious also. So it was young. So it’s curious. So it’s curious.
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So it’s curious.
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So it kept coming in, kept and she’s yelling at it. And I’m just right there just on the trigger, like, ready to go. And it’s coming and coming, and then it gets close and it stops. And it starts doing that, like, going back and forth type thing. And it’s pretty close. Ai, I had most of it on video. And then I didn’t sana be the guy that has the phone out and gets eaten.
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02:23:06
And, and so Ai, like so I put it down so you can so he meh gets close, and then he I put it down so you can still hear it because it’s still running. So I still have the the video you can hear. And, he’s he goes like this, and he starts to charge, and he veers the other way, though he veers off.
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Sai she goes shah goes she’s yelling at him and sai she says, shoot. And I start to press the trigger, and she goes, no. No.
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No. No.
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Like, in the same sentence. Like, there’s no there was there
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was because he veered off.
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Because he veered off. Wow. It looked like he was gonna come, and it was so close. I was like, okay. That’s alright. Yeah. So, then we made our way back out and didn’t get didn’t get one on that trip. But it’s beautiful up there. It was beautiful. I love it up there.
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02:23:39
It’s the last frontier
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for real. I’d go I’d go up there. I’d go live up there.
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02:23:43
Would you?
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02:23:43
Yeah. Yeah. My wife wouldn’t, so I think we’ll we’ll stay in Park City. But, but Ai go up there for sure.
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It’s a crazy place. It’s Park City on steroids.
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02:23:51
It’s, well, without I
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mean, not Park City. That is me. Ai, the Utah Mountains. Yeah. It’s Ai mean, it is so vast.
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02:23:58
I love it. I love it.
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02:23:59
When you’re up there, you the feeling of insignificance Yeah. When you ai, like, oh, this is just us. There’s no people anywhere near us Yeah. For a long ai, for, like, a few hours in a plane. Yep.
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02:24:11
That’s what we did. When the Wrangell Ai, my last trip, I think it was my last trip up there. And, Did
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02:24:16
you guys see wolves?
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02:24:17
Yeah. Got a wolf, got a bear, got a moose, all in one trip. It was crazy. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Big ones of everything too. It was crazy.
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02:24:24
Moose is awesome because you could eat that sucker for a
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02:24:26
whole year. Yep. We got it ai we gave meh of it to the guides and their families and all that stuff because it’s so much to, you know, to to take back.
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02:24:33
Oh, yeah.
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But, yeah. That was John Dube and and, and, Frank LeCron who were also in Pineapple Brothers. We went up there just to assist us and a ai. Two guides that know what they’re doing up there.
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And Did you guys fly in, like, in a push plane?
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02:24:44
Push plane and into camp one night and then meh on the horses and then going up into the mountains with the horses and then make camp there and then push out from that every day.
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Wow. It was,
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02:24:52
it was fantastic. Yeah. It was beautiful. That was beautiful. That vatsal 2022, I think. Oh, sure. I mean, everything’s so vast. And I love Alaska. I was trying my plan was to go to Alaska and Africa, like, back to what every other year. And then, that didn’t happen. Well, it’s
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02:25:04
the only place in this country at this point where you can hunt grizzlies. And they really need to do something about that. Sai in these other states where they’re talking about opening it up because, like, they they are not scared of people anymore and the interactions are getting more and more frequent.
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02:25:18
Yeah.
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And they’re not doing anything to curb the populations. And Yeah. That’s the thing we’re talking about with Ai and people that are not involved in hunting and don’t understand the conservation aspect of it. You you you can’t just have an unchecked population of animals, including predators.
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02:25:35
Yeah.
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You know, and they, you know, all these fucking people are voting with their heart. Yeah. Instead of, like, letting wildlife biologists sai, no. No. This is actually bad for the animals, for the overall population of them. Yeah. And it’s also gonna be bad for people and
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02:25:52
Yeah. I mean, when the animals and people ai, if a lot mountain lions in California Mhmm. Of course. It’s preposterous. Yeah. And,
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Preposterous. Utah has changed their loss. Utah is a ai they’re like coyotes now.
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02:26:02
Oh, is that right? I didn’t even know that.
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Yeah. Well, there’s too many interactions. Yeah.
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02:26:06
I got a big one a couple years. One came on
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our They’ve adjusted.
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02:26:08
Our neighbors’ game cam. Huge one came through, which is good because well fed. Right. And that’s the one when they get skinny and, you know, get looking a little dicey. Huge one came through right right around Thanksgiving when all the families in town, and we’re up in the mountains right there, pretty remote, and and everybody’s there.
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02:26:21
The kids are there. So I’m kinda like, oh, man. Weird. And I’m sure they’ve seen me a ton of ai, and I’ve never seen never seen that.
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02:26:26
They’ve probably been watching you.
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02:26:28
Gotta get my game cams up. Gotta get those game cams up. It’s, I have a bunch of them. I just need to figure out how to link them all up. I need someone to help me, like, link them all up in the Wi Fi and the whole thing.
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Well, they could set up with cell phones now.
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02:26:38
Yeah. Exactly. That’s what you’re all set up.
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02:26:39
Get text messages every time something walks through your camera.
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02:26:41
Yeah. I need to do that. I put the the about 25 different, three d targets up there. The archery challenge guys came up, so I have a course that I can Sai can walk that I that I don’t usually do? But,
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02:26:50
That’s great, though. Though. That’s great to just have in the backyard. Yeah.
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02:26:53
It’s awesome. That’s
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pretty sweet.
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02:26:54
That’s awesome. But I wanna get some game ram on them to see what the interaction is because the moose come through, the elk come through, the mule deer come through, and I wanna see those interactions. We’ve got 200 turkeys, it seems. Probably, like, more like a 100 or 50, but a lot come through every day.
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02:27:05
So so I do I do love it up there. And, and you know if someone’s up there that you know if there shouldn’t be there. Right. And it was crazy. This, sort of after Charlie Kirk, remember the only thing we had was that this guy was in black. Right? Right.
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02:27:18
Sai, every’s on I’m on edge. I’m like devastated by this thing. I’m like really feeling it. I met him once. Didn’t know him, but Ai our mutual friends who are who were very close to him. So, so anyway, I was just devastated by this thing.
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02:27:31
And the kids saw it, told me devastated by that. It’s just, you know, it’s awful all the way around. And, there’s a knock at our door. And I’m like and this is like ai is like the next day. And I’m like, no one’s supposed to be here.
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02:27:42
Our gate was busted, so we’re getting a whole new security system, but the gate was busted then. And, and it’s being fixed now. So, I’m like, who is this? And I look I can look out from a ai where no one can see me and it’s this guy in all black. Oh.
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02:27:54
I knew it wasn’t in my mind, I knew this isn’t the person, but you’re hearing that’s the only description. This guy is head to toe black up in the mountains where I’ve never seen him before. Like, you have to work to get up to us. And but his car was semi nice parked outside. I’m like, what is this? I feel like an Audi or something. I’m like, ai is weird. And, everybody’s overweight.
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02:28:11
He didn’t clearly didn’t fit the description. Right. But, all black. Sai, I’m like on edge already. And, so I grabbed the pistol and, go down to the door, and his back’s to the door. So you can’t see his face. So Ai, like, what?
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02:28:23
So I have the pistol behind my back, little two two six behind my back, and because I can do some work with that thing. And, I’m like, yeah. And he’s like, oh, we’re doing some work around the corner with, some some cement. Do you need sana any work with cement around here? I’m like, no.
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Like, you sound pretty nice to people. But I was I was like and he’s okay. Walks from ram. You can’t just walk up people around here like that without an appointment. Well, clearly, the gate is meant to keep people out.
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02:28:49
Right.
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And you come up all dressed in black the day after this thing happens, and you randomly knock on a door. And then
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you turn your back to
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the door.
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And you
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have your back to the door. That’s so weird. Hazaar.
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02:29:00
Do you know who the guy is?
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02:29:01
No. I was just like I mean, he’s he’s doing some work on one of the other places. He wanted to know
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02:29:05
if you need cement?
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02:29:06
He needed to need some cement. Isn’t that odd? But in my mind, I’m like, well, is this casing
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02:29:10
for something? If maybe he was, like, a stalker fan that found where you are and that was his excuse?
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02:29:16
I didn’t think about that. I was more thinking about just the the description of the Charlie Kirk person. Yeah. So that would be
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like, immediately, it’d be like, oh, you have cement?
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02:29:23
Yeah. Like Yeah.
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02:29:24
Why do you have extra cement, dude? Bizarre. You’re knocking on people’s doors asking if they need cement? Ai I
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02:29:29
think it was really somebody hustling, like, trying to do some work, ai, in a ram type stuff, whatever. But that was that was crazy. One other person came to the house when they shouldn’t have, and, that was, ai, it was very strange. And, anyway, but there’s If
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02:29:41
you’re in the mountains and someone visits you Especially
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02:29:43
in the middle of the night. Like, that was during the day. But this other one was in the middle of the night. In the middle of
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the night? Like, how late?
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Like like midnight. Oh.
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Yeah. Jesus.
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Yeah. And sai that one, I put the AR by the door, had the had the pistol, and, and went over there looking it ends up they were looking for another house up there, but it was very bizarre. Yeah. It’s late. Late in a storm Meh, boy. Coming down. Yeah. Coming down.
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02:30:04
So you’re ai, was this one of those things where you open the door and the other guys rush in? Right. I think it was a lady Right. Stumbling down through the snow with what I thought was a headlamp ended up being her her car.
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I saw a video like that online where this lady knocked on the door and a bunch of dudes came. Exactly.
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02:30:18
Yeah. Exactly. So, anyway yeah. So working on the new security system.
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Yeah.
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02:30:24
Let’s get some, but it’s it’s if you come knocking on the door, it’s, you shouldn’t be there. If you’ll need to have a little more common sense. Yeah. Or you’re gonna meh, you know Ain’t
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02:30:35
it terrible though that you have to think like that? Like, someone could just have a car broken down and
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02:30:39
I know. Just need help.
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02:30:40
I know. You have to be on edge Right. Completely.
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02:30:43
Yeah. Yeah. And if that was the case, of course, I’d go up. But then you’re still thinking, like, oh, you’re just gonna get me out of the house. Exactly. Yep.
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02:30:49
Maybe someone’s waiting to get you out of the house. Exactly. Ai right.
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02:30:52
Yeah. Sai it’s gotta be smart. Maybe call a bunch of calls ram authorities up here, and we’ll just sai. You know? Let’s just stay right here tyler they get here, and they can help you with your car or whatever it was. But, yeah. So trying to get a little better with the security type ai things.
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02:31:06
Yeah. There’s something about the woods and the mountains alone when you’re by yourself that you worry about people coming to visit you anyway. You worry about people just showing up.
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02:31:15
Right. It’s not it’s not normal. No.
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02:31:16
And if you’re a person that just shows up, you have to recognize that. That that that’s a very vulnerable
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02:31:21
Yeah.
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02:31:21
Position.
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02:31:22
Right.
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By yourself in a house in the woods or with your family in a house in the woods and you just show up while it’s snowing. Yeah. This is the beginning of a movie.
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02:31:31
Right.
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02:31:31
It’s a horrible movie. Exactly. Yeah. So and
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02:31:34
when we lived in town, people did come by and kind of expect it. You live in town, there’s no rural security, whatever, you know, it’s kind of like more speak. That’s when you’re way
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02:31:41
up there.
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02:31:42
Uh-huh. Yeah. When you’re way up there, especially on the the ai dressed up, that was weird.
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02:31:45
Like, when it gets darker, like, when you’re rather in in the woods and it gets darker and then people show up, those people immediately seem like danger.
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02:31:53
Meh. Yeah. Mhmm. Well, I Especially in the old
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woods. Yeah.
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02:31:56
I mean, that’s the old instinct that kept us alive for so long. Like, I need to be on edge here
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02:32:00
Exactly.
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02:32:00
And tell who is his friend or foe Yeah. Kind of thing until you know.
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02:32:03
Someone’s dating tribe meh.
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02:32:05
Exactly. The middle
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of the night.
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Until you absolutely know you’re gonna, air on the side of caution in protecting your life and lives of your loved ones.
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02:32:11
Well, listen, brother.
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02:32:12
Yeah, man.
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02:32:13
I’m very excited about this book.
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02:32:14
I wanna
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get into it. Is the audio available right now?
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02:32:17
Audio available, Ray Porter. That’s, is out right now. And, yeah. Audio ebook hardcover.
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02:32:22
I like how you went back to James Reese’s dad too.
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02:32:25
There it is. Yeah. Yeah. That. Yeah. And we’re pitching this to Amazon here, I think, in the next month or so as a series. So you never know if it’s gonna happen or not, but, that’d be a cool one. I think people are ready for a, another Vietnam style TV show ram movie. It’s been a while. It’s been a while since we’ve had a good one.
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02:32:43
At the very least book Yeah. Yeah. I’m excited.
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02:32:45
Yeah. And this one was, essentially, it’s a espionage thriller set in, in Saigon, but set in in Southeast Asia, more specifically. And no one’s really done that since Ai American, Graham Greene, Tears of Autumn, and Graham Greene was 1955. And, Tears of Autumn was 1974, and and, Jean Meh Carre was the honorable school boy in 1977. So it’s been a, it’s been a while.
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02:33:07
Yeah. Ai Havoc Yeah, man. Available right now. Congratulations on everything, brother.
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02:33:12
Thank you.
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02:33:12
I’m very, very happy for you.
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02:33:13
Sai great to see you.
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02:33:14
This is awesome to see you killing them out there.
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02:33:16
Thanks, brother. Appreciate everything.
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My pleasure. Bye, buddy. Take care ai.