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Brigham Buhler is the founder of Ways2Well, a functional and regenerative care clinic.https://www.ways2well.com
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Ram ai day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What up, dog? How are you? We’re back. We’re back again. How many text messages have we been exchanging back and forth where we’re ai, what the fuck?
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Oh, it’s nuts. It goes so deep.
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It goes so
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Sai deep.
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This this is to me this is one of the most exciting moments in in terms of, like, politics, in terms of, like, who’s in control. Like, having RFK Junior at the helm of the HHS and having him, like, really pushing to get peptides through, really pushing to stop all this bullshit that’s been going on, and and seeing all these fucking roaches coming running out when the lights come on.
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Yeah.
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It’s been crazy.
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It’s It’s definitely been crazy. And and for anyone who doesn’t know my background, because if they haven’t heard our previous podcast, you know, I started out as a drug rep for Eli Lilly, and I did that for three years. So I saw behind the curtain. This was right out of college, and then I was a med device rep.
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And then I owned labs, blood labs, toxicology labs, Ai, pharmacogenetic labs. I tried to go educate clinicians on all this preventative care stuff within the insurance framework, within the system. And I was I’ve been blowing the you and I did, I think, the first one four years ago, where where I was trying to blow the whistle on there is a lot of corruption, collusion, and corporate capture throughout every one of these organizations, top to bottom.
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Every alphabet organization, whether we’re talking the EPA, the CDC, the NIH, the FDA.
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Guy from the CDC that just ai. The guy who he has, like, literally a pentagram dog collar thing on his chest. Do you know this guy?
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Oh, I know I know what you’re talking about.
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Yes. Speak who’s upset that they’re not giving babies hepatitis b shots.
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He literally in an interview yesterday said his biggest concern is that they’re gonna get rid of hepatitis b shots. Children aren’t having sex or shooting up drugs. Why do they need a hep b shot?
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Because they’re paying. Because hepta hep meh b shots are paying. Yeah. They’re paying.
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Well, and that’s It’s money. The problem is as as you, like, systematically walk through these systems in the history of each one of these organizations, I can show you time and time again. And I went from, you know, coming on this podcast and trying to educate people on the importance of taking themselves out of that system, doing blood work, getting proactive and predictive, preventing chronic disease.
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Don’t put your hands in the fate of these broken systems. And that led to getting to meet RFK and being a part of the Meh movement, testifying in front of the sana, and then I’ve testified at the state level. And, Joe, the fucking level of fuckery and shady shit that I’ve seen now behind the scenes getting line of sight into the government side because I didn’t I was on the outside in the periphery somewhat aware of the government stuff, but now having got behind the curtain, dude, it runs so much deeper, and it’s so much darker, and it’s so much more controlled than I ever realized.
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Well, it’s all money, meh. And there’s so much money. I mean, it it it has to be one of the biggest industries in the country. Right?
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Oh, it I think HHS and even even HHS, which all falls under secretary Kennedy now, I think is between seventy and eighty thousand people. Right? And so when people are asking how does why aren’t we moving faster? Why aren’t we doing this? Why aren’t we doing that? It’s like you’re trying to move the Titanic. There’s all these divisions within HHS, the CDC, the NIH, the FDA, and it’s whack a mole.
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And every day, a new fire pops up. And every day, you’ve got industry lobbying, politicking, and moving chess pieces to obstruct, delay, deny, depose, and prevent any sort of change. And you’ve got legacy employees. There’s literally there is literally a memo at the NIH that’s being circulated around about how to subvert and ignore president Trump and secretary Kennedy’s mandates, which isn’t president Trump and secretary Kennedy.
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It’s the American people’s voice. The American people voted for change. We’re over the corruption. We’re over the collusion. We’re over the corporate capture.
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And And for most people that I know, this was one of the biggest factors in in this administration. Like, voting in Trump, the one of the biggest things was getting Kennedy in there.
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Same. Yeah. I I I believe that the Meh moms and this health care movement and the frustration with the broken health care system was a a a deciding factor in Trump winning this election. And my fear is if we don’t keep the pressure up at these midterms, it doesn’t matter Republican or Democrats.
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Historically, both sides have been corrupted, and both sides have made catastrophic mistakes. And if we walk through, like, each one of these organizations, like, back to the even the FDA. Okay. So most recently, I’m in Europe, and I’ve got eyes and ears everywhere. Or you tell me where the best place to start is because I wanna Sana did there’s so much ground to come. Go ahead. Okay.
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So, secretary Kennedy set up a meeting for me with the FDA back in January. And he sai, I want you to come with an open mind, open heart. They’re gonna do the same. And I want you to just sit down and lay out for these folks what you’ve seen, what you’ve experienced, and help them understand what compounders, telemedicine companies, stem cell companies, regenerative medicine practices, cash pay practices across the country are experiencing because of the FDA’s choices and decisions made in a vacuum.
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And so I went to this meeting, flew to DC, sat down with all these folks. They’re taking notes. They all seemed really friendly. There was probably eight or nine people in the room, and I left there. And a day later and I and and everyone’s like, how do you think it went?
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I said, they seem very receptive. Like, everyone was nice. Everyone smiled, and everyone was just seemed friendly. Hand to god. I get a call from a person at the FDA, and they say, I want you to know they’re gonna smile fuck you. And I said, what?
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And this person sai, they’re gonna smile fuck you. And I go, what do you mean? They’re gonna smile to your face, and they’re gonna ramrod all the things that you went in to talk to them about. So, like, one of the things that I wanted to talk to them about was the GLP ones. Forget whether good or bad. Let’s just shelf that for the moment.
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GLP ones have their origination at the National Institute for Health.
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Let’s explain to people. That’s Ozempic, Wegovy
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That’s correct.
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Those weight loss All all
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these blockbuster weight loss peptides, but it’s bigger than them being a weight loss peptide. They fall under the category of peptides, and it’s a slippery slope. Because if we allow the pharmaceutical industry to capture peptides, it will shut down all future innovation of peptides for compounding pharmacies, for telemedicine, for any of these things.
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Unless they have patents on it.
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Correct. And and you and I talked about this the last podcast, and I was spot on. All the things I was telling you, I have now confirmed having gone to meetings with the FDA. I sai in that meeting, and I said, you so what happened is Eli Lilly is now one of the largest makers of this weight loss peptide.
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It’s it’s essentially Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. They have lobbied hard with the FDA to say, we can meet the needs of the American people. There is no reason why anybody should be compounding any of these peptides. They’re dangerous. You guys don’t inspect compounding pharmacies. There’s no FDA oversight.
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These products are made in garages, and there’s no, FDA ingredients in them. They’re not the same product, x ai z. Just go down the list of all those narratives that they’re spinning to the FDA. And when the FDA is only hearing one side of the story and 60% of their funding comes from industry, what you will see is ai and time again, they side with industry.
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So the FDA defaulted right before to their generic answer, right before secretary Kennedy and Donald Trump took control, they expired the exemption that was allowing compounding pharmacies to make cost effective alternatives that patients could ai, and this is crucial. The reason that you’re seeing side effects, the reason you’re seeing this cascade effect of issues is because they are not treating patients with the most efficacious dose for that patient.
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They’re treating patients with the dosage that reimburses the highest reimbursement rate on the insurance formulary, and I can prove this. They are overdosing people under like, literally, they’re not taking the time to do the consult to educate the patient on diet, lifestyle, nutrition.
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There is zero doubt that GLP ones are overutilized in America. There’s zero doubt that they should not be a frontline defense. There is zero doubt that they don’t come with some sort of risk factors, but most of those risk factors are found in higher dosages. So why would you start a patient on a higher dosage? Why would you rapidly titrate them up to a higher dosage where you’re causing catastrophic muscle loss?
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It’s because it reimburses more. It’s not because it’s what’s better for the patient. It’s because it’s what’s better for Wall Street.
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Jesus.
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Okay.
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Gross.
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And then their answer is compounding pharmacies, we titrate at a lower dosage. We’re unique to the patient. So what we try to do is start you at a ai. And then, also, what we do is compound it and add other, peptides. So, like, one example of a they’re literally working to patent a combination of a GLP one and IGF l r three.
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We’ve been making that for five years, like, four years.
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Say that again. GLP
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GLP one What
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is an Ai?
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Weight loss. And IGF, insulin growth factor l r three, time released insulin growth factor. And the reason being, IGF preserves lean muscle mass. IGF preserves bone mineral density. IGF helps reduce visceral fat. IGF has a cascade of benefits that allow us to ai a GLP one at a much lower dosage where you don’t get the muscle wasting.
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And so this compound in trials right now is showing 20% body fat loss in it or 20%, loss relative to the GLP ones, but all of it’s body fat. Almost all of it is fat. You’re not losing the muscle. And compounders are already making this stuff. Right?
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And so where I’m going with this is Lilly lobbies the FDA in in Novo Nordisk, and they say these drugs are dangerous. Let’s look into that. Step one. Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk both have warning letters from the FDA for their manufacturing facilities. Novo Nordisk was cited as having cat hair and pest activity.
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I don’t know if it’s rats, if it’s roaches in their sterile rooms. This is the FDA’s own inspection. Eli Lilly has been cited time and time again for his egregious actions destroying records, hiding clinical data, a barefoot woman in their sterile ram. The FDA uncovered all of this through whistleblowers. Furthermore, there’s over 2,000 major pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities that have not been investigated in five or more fucking years.
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And so my message to the FDA was, one, you’re wrong. You’ve inspected me three times in eighteen months. Two, Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk are not making a safer product. They’re not at a higher level of manufacturing specs. You guys look at them less often than you do compounders, and they don’t make dosages unique to patients.
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So we’re titrating dosages down, allowing patients to optimize the benefits, minimize the side effects, not a one size fits all approach. And then last but not least, it’s cash pay. We aren’t billing insurance carriers. We aren’t billing Meh, Medicaid, and we’re not charging $1,300 a month average wholesale price.
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We’re able to ship these products for a couple $100 to your doorstep with a nutritional consult. And so it’s a better mousetrap. And what you’ll see time and time again is if industry’s getting beat, if big pharma’s getting beat, they just change the rules to the game. And so where where this is going, though, is so much bigger and grander, Joe.
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So Ai asked the FDA, what made you think that this is no longer on a backlogs list? Because it was an emergency backlogs list. So the FDA provides a list every year where they tell compounders, we can’t get these drugs. We need you to compound these drugs. Think of it like the bat signal. Sai signal goes off. We jump to it. We start compounding those drugs.
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The exemption expired under Biden right before secretary Kennedy and Trump took control. The old regime at the FDA ram rotted it through. Now it’s not exempt. Now five zero three b pharmacies cannot compound it because they don’t make patient specific, which means a lot of those products are no longer available.
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But they did that decision based off the fact that these crucial diabetic patients would be able to get the drugs they need. This is where the plot thickens. We called over 30,000 pharmacies for twelve months. I turned all of this into the FDA. Less than 6% of the lower dosages were available for patients, which meant what?
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They had to go to the higher dosages, which meant what? All of these programs get billed a higher reimbursement rate, a higher billable rate. Eli Lilly and Novo aren’t mad that compounders are making the product. They’re mad that they’re getting exposed for the corruption, collusion, and manipulation of our health care institutions time and time again.
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And it’s gonna get 10 times worse as I lay this out for you, but I’ll pause for
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a question. Pause right here. So what is a response to this? So you lay out this information. What can be done, and what is the response?
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So they all they they were friendly. They smiled. They were dropping down notes. One of the head companies drawn dicks.
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Yeah. He’s probably drawn One of one
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of the clinicians from the FDA, candidly, who’s never practiced medicine, it said there’s no medical need for peptides in this meeting. And he’s like, but today, we’re gonna talk mainly about GLP ones. There’s a need for GLP ones. Okay. I dig in. Where did this guy do his, he he’s a he is a clinician, but his first stint in politics was in the state of Indiana in Indianapolis, Eli Lilly’s headquarters.
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I worked for Eli Lilly. In Eli Lilly owns the state of Indiana, and they absolutely own the state or the city of Indianapolis. And this guy did his first stint, in politics under a congress moment congressman, sorry, in the state of Indiana in Indianapolis. And this congressman has released multiple multiple tweets and messages and attends Eli Lilly factory openings and is a huge proponent of Eli Lilly.
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And this is just one example of the issues with that system.
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It’s also the statement that peptides have no medical use when GLP ones are fucking peptides.
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Literally what I said. That’s what Ai sai. You do understand that a GLP one’s a peptide. Insulin is a peptide. Yes. There are over a 150 peptides that big pharma is attempting to patent right now because the future of medicine is peptides, and here’s why. We don’t we aren’t compounding a drug.
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We’re taking something found naturally in nature, a signaling cell found in your body just like stem cells, just like amnion, just like all of these crucial building blocks to our health and longevity that are deficient in our foods, deficient in our diet, deficient in our lifestyle.
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We don’t get enough sun. We have too much screen time. We’re inactive, and all of that shit’s taken in our bodies. Shocker. Right?
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And as we age, there’s a precipitous decline in peptides, in building blocks. One example, GHK, copper peptide. We know we have roughly 30 to 40% of the level of GHK in our bloodstream in our forties that we had in our teens. Why is that important? It’s an important signaling cell that tells your body that you’re young. Your cells are young. Your skin’s elastic. Heal this injury. Heal this wound. Reduce this inflammation. Right?
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It’s safe. It’s benign. It’s found in nature. We’re synthesizing that. That’s what peptides are, and big pharma got beat to the punch by compounding pharmacies.
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And compounding pharmacies have an array of peptides in their tool belt, And the war on peptides has gone beyond the GLP ones, and this is what I wanted to explain. So it’s very complicated. I gotta make sure I nail this right because it’s important for president Trump to understand this.
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President Trump, the art of the deal, the master negotiator is attempting to play hardball with big pharma, and he is gonna negotiate a deal for best in class best in the world drug pricing for the American people. And that’s very admirable, and I respect the hell out of him for trying to get it done.
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But the devil is in the details, and my fear is, historically, big government has been co opted and colluded by pharma. And when they’re not able to pull a lever and move a chess piece, they outmaneuver them, and it’s already happening. Eli Lilly CEO announced he’s going to raise the prices of drugs in Europe to offset the price reduction in America.
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But what that really means is we’re not gonna get the price concession that Donald Trump president Trump is working for. Right? Because what he’s doing is the same thing we already see with the pharmacy benefit managers that I’ve explained on this podcast before. The PBMs artificially inflate the price because they get a rebate on the back end from the big pharmaceutical companies that’s bryden, that’s not disclosed to the public.
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Then when they negotiate a deal with Medicare, Medicaid, TRICARE, they tell the government, we’re giving you 30% off. You’re giving us 30% off a bullshit price that you created because you set the market. And if we give these people a monopoly, we already know where it goes.
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We can see it time and time again. Eli Lilly’s price of production on insulin became one tenth of what it used to be, and they charged 10 times the dollar amount of the retail price of insulin. And I’ve also, Jamie, on any of this stuff on the Ways to Well website, I did the JRE experience, links again because I’m referencing so many things that people are gonna sai, no way.
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So Lily literally
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go to wastewell.com.
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And and there’s JRE links.
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Okay.
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There’s a links page where I reference everything I’m talking about. Sai
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President Trump is is attempting to negotiate these pricing. This is where industry’s already moving the needle. That’s just one piece of it, though, Joe. Here’s where it gets even more fucked up. This is how crazy this shit is. It just happened with thyroid medicines. Okay? Animal derived thyroid has been around since 1890.
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We have compounded it for over a decade. I have had not one adverse event in a not fucking one. We sit we ship 6,000 bottles of medication a day at my arya, Revive. We have had minimal side effects in literally over a decade. Big pharma has lobbied the FDA to say these thyroid medicines are dangerous. We need you to shut down animal derived thyroids. Why?
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Because they’re attempting to launch a thyroid medicine, and they want the thyroid labeled as a biologic. Why would you label it as a biologic? Because by labeling it as a biologic, you subvert president Trump’s mission to reduce the price of a drug because it’s not a drug. I’m selling you a biologic.
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So now I can bend you over the barrel and screw you again on the price. Here’s where it runs even deeper.
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This is
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where it gets great. A patent on a drug is usually five years. Do you know what the patent life is on a biologic? Twelve fucking years. So Eli Lilly, all of the Novo Nordisk, all of these entities are attempting to put pressure on the FDA to reclassify drugs as biologics. They want GLP ones as biologics. They want HCG as biologics.
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They want all of these amazing compounds that we’ve been providing for people for over a decade to all be reclassified as a biologic, and that is the fucking straw that will break the camel’s back, the final death blow to telemedicine and compounding pharmacies. Because the third part of the equation is you cannot compound a biologic. The FDA stance is it is illegal for me as a compounder to compound a biologic.
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So now you give a monopoly to big pharma. You get rid of all price competition in a market where the president’s main goal is to reduce the price of drug costs. If you wanna reduce the price of drug costs, the way you do it is through competition, and we saw it with the GLP ones.
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The only price concession that any of these motherfuckers have given the American people in the last twenty fucking years is because the pressure of an open market. People quit going and buying these retail drugs at $1,300 a month because they couldn’t get the dosage they wanted.
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They’re getting titrated up to these mega dosages that are causing muscle wasting, bone mineral density loss, loss of vision. There’s a $2,000,000,000 lawsuit against these scumbags right now. And I’m sorry. I’ve I’ve bit my tongue historically and tried to be, like, politically correct to an extent on here, but I can’t do it. Like, this is insane.
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And I go back to if RFK and and this administration was not in power, all of this would have just happened. So I text texted the secretary and his team, and I said I have to ring the bell on something. And I’ve educated them on what’s happening and all the moves that are being made, and the FDA was reviewing in a court document that nobody knew about.
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This is the problem with having 70,000 employees. There are legacy employees that have tight collusion relationships with industry that have been there twenty fucking years that they’re gonna do what you let them do. And their offense is you run the big pharma offense. We’re gonna we’re gonna obstruct compounders. We’re gonna prevent telemedicine. We’re gonna push people back to sick care.
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We’re gonna launch drugs into the marketplace, and let’s look at the history of safety, Joe. If we look at again, I’m I’m gonna keep hammering on Lily. Lily in a lawsuit against Mooch Health last week at a at a federal judge is suing Mooch for using GLP ones for weight loss, and their claim is you are violating our patent, which you’re not because it’s patient unique.
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You are, and it’s a peptide, which is naturally found in the human body, and you didn’t create the peptide. The NIH did, our taxpayer dollars because we fund the NIH. That’s where all of these originated. Out of the last there’s so meh. But out of the last 210 blockbuster drugs between 2010 and, I think, 02/2016, 210 blockbuster drugs, how many of those do you think big pharma started at big pharma versus started at the NIH?
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Oh, I’ll bet most of them started at NIH.
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100% of the compounds that became blockbuster drugs had their roots at the NIH.
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So taxpayer funded, and then these pharmaceutical drug companies get a monopoly on them.
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Boom. And then we get rammed in the ass for the next if they get what they want next twelve years.
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And we fund it.
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A 100%. Wow. And the so the FDA my argument to the FDA
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is scam.
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It’s nuts.
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What a scam.
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And my argument to the FDA in this meeting was these compounds are safe. One, they’re safe. They’re they’re naturally occurring in nature. They’re prescribed under the supervision of a board certified clinician. They’re compounded at a compounding pharmacy that is inspected by the FDA. Right?
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That you’ve inspected me three times in eighteen months. All of our API and ingredients are sourced from the same exact suppliers as Novo and Lilly and all of the big pharma pharmaceutical cartels. We all buy the ingredients from the same places. The only difference is, and this is what I told secretary Kennedy and the FDA, the difference between me and Novo and me and Eli Lilly is I actually manufacture and produce my product here on American soil and employ over 500 hardworking American people.
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Ask Big Pharma why they’re moving all their facilities to India and Ireland to escape the scrutiny of the FDA. They don’t want you in their factories. They don’t want you able to challenge them or stifle their ability to print cash. Right? I can’t play by those rules. I can’t jockey that.
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The state of Texas is currently suing Eli Lilly. This came out. Kim Paxton sued Eli Lilly, like, three weeks ago, because of fraudulent activity where they were providing kickbacks to providers, and this is important too. If you have a clinician and you go to your doctor and they will not prescribe you a medication, you need to understand, you, the patient, get to decide where that prescription goes, not your doctor.
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That is not your doctor’s decision. So when a doctor sai, I’m not gonna let you go to a compounding pharmacy, you need to fire that fucking doctor. That is not their choice. They cannot force you to go pay $1,300 at CVS. That is not their choice.
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And there are academic institutions like Methodist Hospital that have policies that sai, we’re not gonna prescribe compounded medicines on GLP ones. You’ve gotta go to the retail drug because we think compounds are dangerous. Where is this coming from? Where in in this court document I was going to that just came out last week, Eli Lilly sued Moochhi Health, claiming that they’re violating the corporate practice of medicine.
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So they’re not just attacking the compounding process. They’re also trying to obstruct via the FDA, and they’re now suing everybody and their mom in this industry who compounds or runs a telemedicine practice, and Lilly is challenging that telemedicine is legal. Eli Lilly is literally challenging that telemedicine is legal because one of the ways that so many patients are getting accessibility to cost effective care is telemedicine.
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And Lily thinks if we can shut down the pathway of telemedicine, we can force them to our own company, which Lilly launched their own little telemedicine branch that you can call in. But in the meantime, they’re claiming that that these companies are violating the corporate practice of medicine.
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They just want full monopoly? A 100%. So what can be done?
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We’re doing it. Like, candidly, we’re doing it. So I leave that first meeting with the FDA. I I get that message from this individual at the FDA, and I ai, I’m gonna wait and see. I Ai hope this person’s wrong. Let’s see what happens. And, when we were in Europe, I get a call, from another source that said, hey. They’re they’re doing it. They’re in a court document.
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The FDA is going to make a stance that says there is no medical necessity for peptides, which would ineffectively in effect, ban over 50 peptides that have been being compounded. Now remember, they already put, I think, over a dozen peptides on a bulks list a year ago. That’s all separate from the GLP one. Why did they do that?
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Because of the lobby of big pharma. You have people at the FDA who are legacy employees of the FDA, who have legacy relationships with big pharma. We’ve already gone over how many heads of the FDA have gone to work for industry and then come back to work for the FDA and then got it’s a revolving door.
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They’re they’re swapping spit. They’re lobbying together. They’re going to dinners together. They’re spending time together, and the CEO of Lilly is up Trump’s ass. I was with another high, high, high level person at HHS, and their phone kept ringing. I swear to god, kept ringing.
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And they looked at their phone, and they go, god, man. These people from Eli Lilly are aggressive. And all of this was happening in the dark. And so what we can do is what we’re doing. This podcast, getting president Trump’s attention, gaining the attention of secretary Kennedy and the team at the FDA.
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And secretary Kennedy and his team are playing whack a mole, you know, because it’s you gotta think. It’s not just the FDA. It’s the CDC. It’s the NIH.
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Yeah.
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80,000 employees. I think they have 200 appointees from the new administration. You got you’re literally it’s like the Spartans versus the Persians. You got 200 hard hitters trying to fight 80,000 people that have been co opted. And I’m not there to say all those people are bad.
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There’s a lot of good things that have done been done at all of these organizations, but there’s also a natural innate bias when a big chunk of your funding pivoted in the nineties where over 60% of the FDA’s funding is based off fee schedules, and those fee schedules generate the revenue that create your jobs.
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And you have an open door policy to meet with the FDA, but you’re not meeting with compounders, and you’re not reading the emails from compounders. Right? And so there when I told the FDA what made you decide this backlog was over, they said, well, industry told us they could meet the need.
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And I said, okay. Well, did you see the email I sent you where we contacted over 30,000 pharmacies for twelve months and they can’t meet the need? Less than 6% of prescriptions were available. They cannot meet the need. They’re gonna force people to higher dosages, and it’s gonna cause a catastrophic health consequence to the American people, and it’s gonna bankrupt our systems.
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31:48
Did you not see these emails? And they just sai there dead quiet. And so jump forward. I get wind that in a court document and it’s all in it’s all in secret. Right? All of this shit happens in the shadows, and then they play dumb.
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Oh, we didn’t know. What do you mean? We didn’t understand. We we that’s just a court document, secretary Kennedy. Bullshit.
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It’s a court document that sets precedent, and that precedent says that peptides have no medical necessity. While at the same time, you have big pharma trying to patent a 140 fucking peptides as biologics that we were already making for the last decade.
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Jesus.
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Is it about safety? Is it about safety? Because all of the adverse events that have been reported, almost all of them, a huge majority of the adverse events, which aren’t even that many, came from black market peptides. And that’s what Lily’s Lily in the court case two weeks ago presented to the judge all the adverse events, and the judge said, where are they?
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And Lily said, right here in this Reddit forum. I swear to god.
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Oh my god.
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And the judge said Reddit forum. Arya you really telling me that your documentation of adverse events is coming from a Reddit forum?
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You should send them to the Flat Earth Reddit forum. Let’s see what else is going on here. Sai that’s just ai a
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a sliver, Joe. Like, a fucking sliver of what I’ve been living.
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With one of my favorite narratives is that they’re trying to do good. That’s one of my favorite narratives. One of my favorite narratives, whenever there’s any sort of a large scale government organization is that we are trying to protect people from harm. They’re fucking never.
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No one is trying to protect you. Everyone at every level of the government, whether it is about climate change, whether it’s about geopolitical relationships, whatever the fuck it is. It is all about money. There’s not a single thing that you could point to. Well, the government really cares here. This is the one.
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This this one is a large, huge, corrupted organization that really cares. Like, there’s not one.
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You can historically go back.
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Of course.
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Like, that’s where it’s like It’s money. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I know people wanna label it as that. If you go back, the FDA’s predecessor, I think, was the Food Something Act of nineteen o one, and as they went to try and create this organization, industry assembled.
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Whose industry? Big chemical, big food, big arya?
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Well, Rockefeller literally set the tone for the entire medical establishment in this country by using petroleum based medicine. You got it. Yeah. And people don’t know this. Like Yeah. Most of your medicines in this country are formulated with the use of petroleum, and that is because of Rockefeller.
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Yep. Because
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he had a monopoly on that.
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And that’s why the side effect profile is higher, and that’s why peptides don’t have any of these things. Again, we’re synthesizing short chain amino acids found in our body that we’re deficient in. And so as we begin to see a precipitous decline in all of these raw elements that allow our bodies to heal and recover, we can bring you back to a state of homeostasis through the utilization of peptides.
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And big pharma is realizing they got beat to the punch, and they’re scrambling to capitalize and monopolize this entire sector. And the only way they can do that is to try and horse trade with president Trump and the administration and pretend like they’re gonna play the game, but they’re not gonna play the game.
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There’s no way.
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Move
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I know he’s got too many things he’s ai, and that’s where I’m trying to ring the bell.
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I’ve talked to him. Yeah. Yeah. There’s no way. Yeah. With the way that guy’s mind works, there’s no way he’s absorbing all this.
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So the message that secretary Kennedy gave me and this is where I’m like, it isn’t woo woo. It isn’t bullshit. Ai can tell you, I’ve texted that guy two times in my life, and both ai, he’s called me within ten minutes. And I texted him. I said, I have an emergency. This is a big deal. I wanna make you aware of something that’s happening at the FDA.
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And he called me and said, what’s going on? And I laid it out for him, and he said, what the fuck are you talking about, basically? I had no ai. And it’s not he’s again, he’s playing whack a mole. He’s got 500 fires.
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You’ve got some legacy employee at the FDA that’s gonna try and make this statement in a court document that’s flying under the radar because it’s not an overarching policy. Right? And then even in the subsequent meetings, so RFK said give me ten minutes. Ten minutes later, I’m on calls with the FDA.
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Then he’s like, how soon can you come meet with the FDA again? So we set an emergency conference call. I do a call with the FDA. He said again, his his meh secretary Kennedy’s team sai, they’re gonna approach this with an open mind and an open heart, and they’re gonna have there it’s gonna be a different tone than the last meeting.
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And I’m gonna try and attend that call or have one of my staffers attend that call. K. The call went down at, like, eight in the morning when he was in Alaska, and then another mole leaked to me because I have moles. I’m play I’m playing the game they play now. I’m not gonna fuck around.
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And my mole called me and said they scheduled the meeting early because they knew he’d be in Alaska, and they knew he couldn’t be on it, and that call did not go well. It was a bunch of legacy FDA employees basically saloni, we’re gonna we’re gonna stay the course. We’re not opening peptides up to the American people.
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And so I had to text his team and go, hey. The call didn’t go well. And then they’re they’re like, our intel’s telling us the same thing. And so he stepped in and said, this is a mandate. We are not going to dictate to the American people that they can or cannot use preventative care and peptides. This is a mandate.
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You need to figure this out, and we need to open accessibility, and we need to bring peptides back for the American people through safe, ai, compounding pharmacies, not black market, which is springing up everywhere. We’re gonna have another opioid crisis. I explained this to them too.
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Everywhere out there, there are peptides that you can buy online now with no checks and balances, with no FDA inspection, with no validation testing, with no way of telling if there’s any contamination, cross contamination.
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Or if they’re even real. Yeah. I’ve had people buy ai of ai. And, you know, that that’s a peptide that when you do it, it has a very strong reaction. Like, you feel it in your body. Mhmm. Like, immediately after, there’s nothing. They get nothing. I’m like, well, yeah. It’s probably bullshit. Yeah. You’re buying bullshit peptides.
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But the point is, like, if Kennedy is not aware of all this, there’s no way Trump is.
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Yeah. He cannot be. No. They have too many things they’re fighting.
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He’s literally involved in Rwanda having, like, like, peace talks with with with enemies that have been enemies for twenty, thirty years, trying to bring them to the table. All the shit that’s going on with Gaza and Palestine and Israel, all the shit that’s going on with Ukraine and Russia. Do you think he even understands peptides? Yeah.
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Like, look at them.
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Well, the health care system’s complicated. It’s nuanced. And the challenge is you have some of the best litigators and attorneys in the world on payroll for these big pharmaceutical cartels.
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Of course.
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And they fund 60% of the FDA. And the history of the FDA is that it I’ve I’ve said over and over again, it’s captured, but the truth is all of these organizations were born in captivity. They were born in captivity. News. Yeah.
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That’s the craziest thing. Yeah. Anderson Cooper brought to you by Pfizer.
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Well, they’re even doing it right now, making it look like the world’s turning. I don’t know if you saw Bernie Sanders tweeted, RFK’s gotta go. Yeah. All these people. But the truth is, last week, they announced the approval ratings, and RFK is up seven points in the approval rate, the highest rating of any elected official.
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The American people are not turning on RFK. Even the CDC debacle that people are turning into the news is making out to be a debacle. You lost legacy employees. You lost this dude wearing sex gear and shit on covers of magazines Who wants ai get hep b? Everyone to get hep b.
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Nobody’s saying you can’t vaccinate your kids. Nobody’s saying ai to. Hep b. Hep b. There’s no reason. Ai know. But what they’re all they’re saying right now is babies.
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All they’re saying right now is we don’t sana keep mandating without ai. Yeah. Without evidence. And we wanna understand, is there a potential risk of side effects when we hit a child with this many vaccines before the age of two?
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Did you see the conversation that, Kennedy had where he was talking about, where they they were talking about measles? And he said, we have had four deaths from measles in the last twenty years. Do you know how many cases of autism that we’ve had? And he he rattled off that. Oh, yeah. Ai, the numbers? Yeah. You know, in California, it’s literally one in twelve boys now?
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Yep. Do you
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know how insane
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this that at the, at the Texas legislature when Abbott signed off on the bills that I helped testify.
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But meh, you’re having guys like Bernie Sanders who doesn’t know I I look listen. I’m an old school Bernie bro. I love Bernie. I love the idea of Bernie. Yeah. Bernie doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about.
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Yeah.
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Bernie didn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about when it came to climate change. Yeah. It’s a real thing. Climate change is definitely happening. Yeah. Like, what are you saying? Like, what does that mean? Has the climate ever been static? Like, when you, like, confront him on the details, he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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Frustrating is. They’re narratives. Meh. They’re narratives.
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So the narratives is that what what we’ve done with vaccines is stop all the diseases. Okay. Are are you sure? Do you really know that? Have you ever looked at the history of the eradication of diseases and the introduction of sanitation, running water? Have you looked at any of that stuff?
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Nutrition, ai, building any of that stuff? Do you know anything about polio for real? When I tell people the polio statistic that ninety five to ninety nine percent of polio is asymptomatic, it’s one of my favorite questions. Yeah. I’m like, what percentage of polio, you know, dang.
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Do you do you also follow that so The DDT story. Boom. So do you do you know that the CDC this is a these these are there’s so many fucking crazy stories. The CDC was created in World War two to stop the malaria spread. Okay? And the first thing they did was ink a deal with a little chemical company called Monsanto where they begin to dump DDT into all of these countries to try and kill malaria.
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And they spread a array of health issues that lasted generations and gave immunity and did all these things. That was the foundation of the CDC. And where it gets even crazier is guess how nobody talks about this shit. Do you know how the c where the CDC’s headquarters is? Their headquarters in Atlanta was gifted to them by Coca Cola. The CDC, to this day, is in a fucking giant building that was given to them by Coca Cola.
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And in a FOIA request, there is a fucking email from one of the executives at the CDC. I don’t remember, like, the seventies or eighties, where they’re literally going back and forth with Coca Cola and saying they’re gonna do all they can to shut down this bad information on sugar.
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It runs so deep. And then you go to the EPA. What You go to the EPA and its relationships with Monsanto. The EPA in a FOIA request, one of the heads of the e EPA with regards to glyphosate in disclosure documents literally sent an email saying, if I pull this off for you guys, you owe me a fucking medal.
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All of this shit’s out there. I put all of it on the website. You can go find all of this stuff. It is there. And sai, systematically, FDA, CDC, EPA, NIH, every one of these systems have been built, co opted, corrupted, and developed alongside industry.
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And even when you talk about chronic disease, so many people there’s a big podcast that dropped that if anyone it’s it gets into antidepressants. And a lot of people don’t know this because I wanna quantify peptides because you’re gonna have academia go, well, the difference is drugs are investigated and peptides aren’t, and there’s no placebo controlled double blind studies.
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One, there are. There’s a lot, and we can systematically break that down too. They just haven’t gone through an FDA approval process because that cost $2,000,000,000. Well, who has had $2,000,000,000. $2,000,000,000 to bring a drug to market.
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What a great way to be a gateway. Boom.
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It was established by Big Pharma. Big Pharma told the FDA, let’s build this model. Right? So then they capture the molecule at the NIH level, bring it to phase two and three trials, bring it into human trials. The cost of doing that is not what they make it out to be, and then it’s a pay to play system.
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And it’s an obstructionist system that stifles and prevents innovation because if I’m a biotech startup or a compounding pharmacy or a stem cell company or a peptide company or anybody who wants to get into that space, I am gonna be forced to sell my company at some point to Eli Lilly or Pfizer or one of these big conglomerates in order to get it through the FDA approval process.
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I can’t afford 2,000,000,000. And so what you’ve given Big Pharma is the keys to the Ferrari, and they control all the Ferraris that hit the marketplace. But then they co opt and corrupt the data. So here’s an example. When we talk about science, follow the ai, follow the evidence. I worked for Eli Lilly.
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I that was my first job out of college. We sold antipsychotic drugs, Zyprexa. Patients would come in, and doctors would say, Brigham, I don’t know what’s going on, dude. This lady put on 30 fucking pounds in, like, literally a month. This is not good. There’s something going on here.
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And so when we go back to the main goal, safety, where was safety on that drug? Out of 12 blockbuster drugs in the last, I think, fifteen years of Eli Lilly’s history, 10 of them have black box warnings. Black box the most the harshest warning you can get. The studies oftentimes don’t represent long term data, and the studies oftentimes aren’t looking at all of the multifaceted aspects of human nature and ai, like comorbidities and what other medications are these people taking, and how do all these impact each other.
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Average Meh on four or more prescription drugs. Alright. So I wanna lay out for for the antidepressant because this one’s crazy. Do you do you how do you how do you think we diagnose depression, anxiety, ADHD, any of these mental health disorders. And I’m not I wanna be clear.
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I’m not saying that these disorders don’t exist, and I’m not saying that there is not a medical, issue with patients.
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Well, it’s all completely subjective. It’s not like a test that they can give you, like, do you have syphilis?
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Correct. There is no blood test.
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Right.
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There’s no brain test.
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Right.
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There’s no chemical brain test.
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Well, not only that. Let’s let’s be really clear. The established criteria, the idea behind it being that there is some sort of a chemical imbalance has been disproven.
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Correct.
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So it’s just not Yeah. It’s not real.
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Even in autopsies. That and you know who perpetuated and created that narrative was Big Pharma.
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Of course.
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Big Pharma created that narrative, sold that story. It was never a serotonin deficiency. There’s zero evidence to show that. So the screening tool we use to tell you if your child has ADHD was developed by a doctor in the seventies who was a consultant for Ritalin. Oh, Jesus.
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Now jump to the nineties. Eli Lilly, Pfizer, everyone’s launching antidepressants into the marketplace under the ai that these serotonin selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs, are going to fix your chemical imbalance in your brain. The measuring stick to decide whether you’re depressed or not was a questionnaire developed by a consultant for Pfizer.
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A doctor who worked for Pfizer developed that test, and the goal of the test was to simplify depression so simplistically that any primary care in America could prescribe an antidepressant through a simple questionnaire. Donna Net, most people the rules. They set the protocols. They set the the everything.
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But there’s no quantifiable data that says that that actually
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It’s just a questionnaire. So it’s totally subjective. So what what is this questionnaire? Can we take it and find out if I need pills?
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Yeah. Yeah. Let’s take it right now. Ai can tell you what
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you mean. Should we take it?
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Yeah. Let’s take it.
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Let’s take it. I wanna see if I need pills.
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Let’s see. Hold on. That’d be hilarious.
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I’ve never met a single person that’s depressed and has a great life. Is that weird? I’ve never never met a single person that’s healthy, has a family, where everyone’s doing well. Yeah. They have a good career that they enjoy.
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That’s why when what’s that dipshit? Colbert is ai, it’s multifaceted in health care. Yeah. Dumbass. It is. Who’s that? Colbert, the Colbert Report ai.
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Oh, that guy.
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He just attacked Meh a few weeks ago and was saying yeah. He’s saying that to try and go after food and the drug companies is insane. And so if you follow even depression
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He looks super healthy. I like to see him in his underwear.
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When if you follow depression, when did we skyrocket in depression? When did depression skyrocket? It skyrocketed in the eighties. What happened in the eighties? We moved to a ultra processed food diet. There is more compelling evidence that most depression is tracked back to insulin response and eating ultra processed foods and sugary foods than any other aspect.
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We’re all gonna go through highs and lows. We’re all gonna have tough times. But when we’re systematically chronically inflamed and poisoning our bodies through our food systems You’re exhausted and depressed. And it leads to all these I don’t have Ai don’t have cell in here. I’m trying to see anything.
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I get exhausted and depressed if I eat a bowl of fucking Froot Loops. I mean, think think about it. As healthy as I am
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Brigham, does this work? Do you think?
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ADHD self report skills.
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That’s the ADHD.
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Alright. Let’s try this one though, because I’m pretty sure I have this. How often do you have trouble wrapping up the final details of a project once the challenging parts have been done? I’m kinda I don’t really qualify for that one. Never. Ai get shit done.
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Down for you.
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Okay. One
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ai. I guess, bryden, it’s never to very often.
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If it’s a project, if it’s I get shit done. Okay. How often but that’s just a decision that I’ve made.
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Oh,
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you gotta give me a score. We have the score yet.
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51:49
Never. Okay. How often do you have difficulty getting things in order once you have a task that requires organization? Oh, yeah. I got I have problem getting things in order. Often. Let’s go with often on that one. How often do you have a problem remembering appointments or obligations? Sometimes.
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Let’s say sometimes with that one. When you have but that’s just overwhelming. I’m just overwhelmed with shit going on. When you have a task that requires a lot of thought, how often do you avoid or delay getting started? Ai. Let’s say sometimes.
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How often do you fidget or squirm with your hands and feet when you have to sit down for a long time? Often. How often do you feel overly active and compelled to do things like you were driven by a motor? Always. Very.
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How often do you make careless mistakes when you have to work on a boring or difficult project? That’s not applicable. I don’t have any boring or difficult projects. Careless mistakes. What are the what are the options again?
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Let’s say
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rarely. Okay. The depression test that was done. PHQ nine. Sorry.
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Okay. But let’s just go through this real quick. How often do you have difficulty keeping your attention between doing boring repetitive work? We did that. How how often do you have difficulty concentrating on what people say to you even when they are speaking to you directly? Well, it depends on the person.
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If it’s you, no problem at all. But if it’s someone who’s saying some boring shah, yeah. So what’s the middle one? Sometimes. Sometimes. Let’s go with sometimes.
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How often do you misplace or have difficulty finding things at home or work? I’d say often with that one. How often are you distracted by activity or noise around you? Often. How often do you leave your seat in meetings or other situations where you’re expected to remain seated?
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Never. How often do you feel restless or fidgety? Often. How often do you have difficulty unwinding and relaxing when you have ai yourself? Always. I always have difficulty.
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What’s the most one with that?
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Very often.
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Very often. Very often with that. How often do you find yourself take, talking too much when you’re in social Ai social situations are all with professional talkers. That’s a weird one. I don’t think I well, because I do podcast a lot, I’m pretty good at, like, not talking too much. So what’s the the options again?
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Rarely. Rarely. Let’s say rarely because I’m pretty good at that. But it does happen. When you’re in a conversation, how often do you find yourself finishing the sentences of people you’re talking to before they could finish? Again, depends on who I’m talking to.
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If ai I’m talking to a fucking moron, and then they’re laying things out to me that are, like, super obvious, but they’re going really saloni. I’m, like, let’s go. Pick it up. Yep. I got it. Got it. So it depends. Ai? What are the options again?
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Never, rarely, sometimes, often, very often.
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Rarely. Let’s say rarely because I rarely talk to morons. How often do you have difficulty waiting your turn in situations when turn taking is required? Difficulty. Like, what if who would I be doing then as turn no. No. I don’t really have a problem with that. How often do you You
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gotta think too. This is they’re asking children this, which is gonna be a lot. Ai not impulsive.
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This one’s for adults.
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Oh, this is the adult
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one. Okay. How often do you interrupt others when they’re busy? Again, I got a weird life, so that doesn’t really come up. I’m not interrupting any I’m not, like, showing up at someone’s work and interrupting them, so that’s never.
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Okay. I think that’s it. I figured out
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That’s it. Okay. Let’s find out. Do I have a problem?
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So here’s where this gets ai, though. So now look back retrospectively. Uh-huh. Okay? When I when I was a Lilly meh, and they’re talking about Prozac, and we’re gonna cure depression. And depression’s caused by a serotonin chemical imbalance in the brain. We now know all that’s hogwash. We don’t really know what was causing the depression, the anxiety, and all these cascade effects.
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In their own retrospective studies of every SSRI on the market, what we now see is on a 52 depression scale, SSRIs score two points higher than placebo. Two points higher. It’s not statistically relevant. It fails to differentiate statistically from placebo. There are two things that do differentiate from placebo.
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Exercise is five times more potent than placebo or an antidepressant in studies. Red light therapy is even higher, two times higher than any antidepressant that’s ever hit the market. But now you’ve put a person in a chemical straight jacket where you have wrecked their system. You have now created more harm than good.
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And so step one in medicine, do no harm. Right? Step one for the FDA, make sure these drugs are safe. They’re not safe. Even even there’s there were lawsuits in the early days of suicidal ideation and violent thoughts because a lot of the pharmaceutical companies tried to hide that they were seeing in trials that children were having suicidal and violent thoughts in the early days of being on SSRIs.
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Yeah. Because it numbs the emotions. It shuts down the emotional response. It damages relationships. These are catastrophic things that you’re giving these people for what?
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They’re also connected to almost every school shooter.
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Yeah. You said it.
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Yeah. And that’s something that no one wants to say. No one wants to talk about. That no one in the news wants to talk about. You would think that if there’s something that correlates, if there’s a correlation, if there’s ai some statistical thing that you can look at, it’s like, wow, this is kind of crazy that this one particular medication is involved in almost every mass shooting.
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Mhmm.
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And when they say when you say mass shootings, like, here’s the thing that gets thrown around about when they would talk about, like, mass shootings. Mass shootings, the the problem with the statistics is it connects gangs. You you have gang, like, what happens in Chicago every weekend.
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Like, last weekend in Chicago, 54 people got shot. Well, people sai, Trump is doing a terrible thing bringing the National Guard. Ask the people of Chicago if that’s terrible. Yeah. If if you want this to continue like, do you have a better solution?
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If you have a better solution, Ai I’m not a fit in favor of bringing the National Guard into every fucking city and and militarizing America. No. I think that’s terrible.
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And the argument against guns is that people are getting shot in Chicago. But if you look at the states that have the highest gun violence, it’s the states that have the strictest gun laws. Yes. Bad guys are still gonna get guns.
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Exactly. And so there’s that. That’s one. So this is when but when you’re talking about school shootings, that’s a different thing. So school shootings get you you you find almost all mentally ill people.
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Mhmm.
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And whatever fill we don’t you know, you don’t have to politicize it, but it’s all mentally ill people who are almost all of them on psychiatric medication. Mhmm. I mean, every single one of them. All the way back to calm mind. But meh, no one brings that up. That seems insane, and that seems completely co opted.
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If you have an industry that is literally sponsoring the fucking news on CNN, literally proudly, not even ai, right, brought to you, they want everyone to know that they’re sponsoring the news. And, you know, the way it’s been described to meh, god. Who was it Cali Means? Yeah. Mhmm.
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Was was saying, this is not so that they can sell more drugs on the news. This is so that the news doesn’t criticize the pharmaceutical drug companies, and they don’t. They avoid them. They avoid it like the plague. If there was, like, a similar situation with any other thing that was not sponsoring the news, Like, let’s sai, cannabis.
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Let’s imagine that if cannabis was connected somehow or another to every mass shooting. Do you don’t think that that would be brought up ai fucking full court press in the front page of the New York Post and the New York Times and all over CNN and MSNBC, they would start talking about it.
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If it was some some masculine thing, ai, if it was testosterone. It was, like, inject testosterone therapy. So testosterone replacement therapy is involved in a hundred percent of school shooters. Jesus Christ. Yeah. They would be feminizing the world. You boys need to eat more soy.
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You need to get tofu into schools. You know, we need
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Right? We need to stop weightlifting. No more weightlifting. No more cold plunges because they increase testosterone as well. No more, you know, no more fucking going outside in the sun. Ai gives you vitamin d. Vitamin d increases testosterone. Get out of the sun. Yeah.
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It’s causing that
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huge ton of stuff correlating d lack of vitamin d to depression. Yes. And Sai mean, there’s it’s it’s all of these different things.
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Your immune system.
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Yeah.
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If you have a low level of vitamin d, you’re chronically susceptible to all kinds of pathogens. Your immune system fucking sucks.
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And the challenge is that same level of money and power that they’re feeding to the media is also happening in politics. So, like, testifying here at the state level on these Meh bills. Three bills got passed in the state of Texas, Joe. I don’t know if you’ve been following all that. But these bills I mean, you would think yeah.
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Ai I you would think we were asking to, like I don’t even know. Like, the level of fuckery that went down with these bills was crazy. So first off, industry didn’t think there was a snowball’s chance in hell that we were gonna get Maha bills passed in the state of Texas because it’s so Republican intensive, and a lot of these politicians have, you know, relationships and ties with industry.
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And we’re an industry forward state, and we always sana be an industry forward state. But we can make money without killing people. Right. We can make money without chronically and systematically poisoning people.
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You just can’t make the most money. That’s the problem with all of it. It’s not making money. It’s making the most money. And, you know, we’ve talked about this a bunch of times, but it’s a real issue. I’m in favor of capitalism. I think it’s awesome. I think communism sucks.
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I think, you know, socialism is it’s contrary to human behavior characteristics that we’re all aware of. Right? We I think we’d all agree on that. However, when you have a system that’s set up where it has to make more money all the time, there’s only one way to do that. You have to abandon ethics and morals or co opt the fucking law. Co opt the rules. Co opt the regulations.
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Make sure that you can continue to make more money whenever possible.
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And you’re now at that’s Yeah. Big pharma is not really worried that compounders are gonna take away their profits. They’re going to hurt their their marketing on Wall Street, their shareholder pricing. Right? If if you if there’s competition, if they can shut down all competition and have a monopoly for twelve years on a compound, what does that mean for their shareholder price?
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Exactly. How much can they skyrocket that stock price?
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Exactly. And that’s what it’s all about. And this is why people need mushrooms. For real. I’m not kidding. I’m I’m not kidding because there’s there’s gonna come a point in time where people realize, like, like, there’s gotta be a way to abandon this rid ridiculous mindset that our country has been entrapped by.
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Yeah. Well, and in in the state of Texas, how progressive is it that Texas passed that Ibogaine bill?
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It’s amazing. Well, kudos to Rick Perry because him as a Republican former governor championing this
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Yeah.
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Is so huge because it it he has so many, alliances with so many different people. They’ll go, oh, god. If Rick Perry is saying this. And then on top of that, it’s veterans that are being positively affected by this compound, by by Ibogaine, by this psychedelic. And to deny veterans is very un American.
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Right? So if you’re a Republican, good luck. If you’re if you’re doing something that fucks over veterans and they organize against you or people that support veterans ai against you and not just veterans, anybody who’s experienced violent crime, anybody’s experienced horrific things in their life, drug addicts, all these different things that can be fixed with this one thing that
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success rate.
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Yeah. It’s sai It’s astronomical. Staggering high. So for let’s let’s talk about that. So for addiction, the success rate is with one experience. It’s eighty three percent successful. These people never do heroin again. They never take opiates again. They stop drinking. They stop smoking cigarettes. Whatever the fuck it is. With two experiences, it’s in the nineties.
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Yeah.
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It’s something like ninety four percent. That’s insane. There’s not a thing like that Yeah. That’s available. There’s not a a rehab would go out of business. With rehabs, if you know anybody who’s been to rehab, very rarely does someone go to rehab once. Yeah. You know? The most successful, former alcoholic that I knew, he never went to rehab. He never did anything. He never went to a 12 step program.
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He crashed his car under a bridge. He got chased by the cops. He got arrested. He’s ai, fuck. I’m I’m done. And he just quit. He just quit.
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And he was a lifelong alcoholic.
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Yeah. It’s so nuts. Yeah. It’s like Well, it does. It works in the state that would have such a huge place. And to me, all of this Yeah. All of this falls under one giant overarching theme, medical right to choose. It’s Sai Ai don’t think that the federal government should be shutting down people’s ability, especially with compassionate use, like somebody who’s terminally ill or who has nothing to lose.
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Why would you stop them from using peptides? Why would you stop them from using stem cells? Why would you stop them from using psychedelics? I I asked,
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Of course. But that’s just I mean, let’s not wait until they’re almost dead.
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Yeah. Well, we could get
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Exactly. Terminally ill people. Let’s not wait for that.
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And and the data on mushrooms and psilocybin and its effects on depression, astronomically show more compelling data than anything you’re gonna see in an SSRI or ai depressants.
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Not only that, it doesn’t kill you at all. Yeah. It, like, literally doesn’t kill you. Like, the l d fifty for mushrooms, you physically can’t consume enough to kill half the population. Yeah. You know, l d fifty for people who don’t know. The lethal lethal dose of fifty percent of the people that test.
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So, you know, like, if you give strychnine to a hundred people, pretty much a hundred people are gonna die.
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And that’s where I’m excited because I I do know. And and then secretary Kennedy did say, please resonate for me that I believe in Meh’ right to choose and control their health care journey. And I ram a proponent of peptides, stem cells, hyperbaric Yeah.
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And this is why I see all these fucking political hacks that are online saying he’s dangerous.
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Yeah.
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This is why all these people are, like, tweeting and retweeting this stuff and thinking they’re some of them, I think, thinking they’re being a good person. Some of them are classically educated, you know, and they they really don’t pay attention to anything outside of mainstream news.
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And they arya they’re lost, and they think that they’re doing the right thing while also playing ball.
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Did you see, Huberman on Bill Maher?
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Yes. I did.
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Yeah. Did you see where Bill Maher asked him? I think about 20% of what most he this is Bill Maher saying he thinks about most Americans think 90% of what we’re told in health care is right.
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Right.
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Bill says, I think it’s about 20. And he looks at Huberman says, what do you think? He sai, 10. And then he talked about his buddy who’s a high professor at Stanford sai at least at minimal 60% of what we’ve been taught is wrong.
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That’s insane. Yeah. Yeah. And the problem is, also, textbooks don’t get updated. Mhmm. They don’t get updated to there’s always new studies that come out. There’s always new information that comes out. If you wrote a textbook three years ago, like, that thing is probably not good anymore when it come in in certain disciplines.
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Well, and look at all the botched studies. Like, you and I have covered testosterone and how that was a study in the nineteen thirties that was debunked. Then you had the women’s health initiative, which scared the hell out of women from estrogen and hormone replacement therapy, which led to them now getting on products that cause a cascade effect of other health issues.
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Even if you look at we covered depression, but now go to statins. Mhmm. Guess who created the screening tools?
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Yes. And who raised the threshold?
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It was all big pharma. Yeah. And then you go to osteoporosis and osteopenia, nine out of the 10 folks who decided that were consultants for industry. Yeah. Industry, including Merck who made Fosamax, which was an an, osteoporosis medication over and over and over again. We can systematically go through every element of health care and speak down how that system was captured and corrupted. And I’m not saying doctors are bad.
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Doctors are doing their best to navigate a system. They’re being taught in school, systems that were built in this ecosystem, and they look at it and go there’s even another person at the FDA that in a blog that they do talked about how basically preventative care is bullshit and that the only way is medicine.
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And I’m like, if these are the people that are gonna be controlling our accessibility and our health care system, it’s terrifying. Well, that’s Peter Hotez.
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Right? Like, if you you follow him ai, and I’m not picking on Peter. But You should. He I you know, the
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He said your bully, but then he tweeted when Is that
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him a bully?
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He said that stuff in on x and stuff in the past. He tweeted
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Because I was trying to get him to have a debate.
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Yeah. And then he tweeted he tweeted after we testified, a image of, like, a nineteen fifties Batman characters. It was ai, this is who they bring in front of Congress to testify. And I saw that, and I’m like, like, all the joke the Joker and the Penguin and all this. I’m like
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He tweeted that? Yeah.
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And I was thinking you’re the one that looks like the Penguin. What are you talking about? I’m not taking any other advice from you.
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So I when I exposed him on the show, when I had that conversation with him about his own personal health, that was probably the most telling thing that he’s ever been involved with. Mhmm. Because people got a chance to see, oh, these are the people that are telling you you have to take this medication.
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People that eat junk food that don’t work out, that are overweight, and, you know, generally unhealthy. Don’t take vitamins.
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It you’re it it’s fine. You just triggered this thought. When I was testifying, it’s exactly what you’re talking about. When I was testifying at the state level, okay, to remove ultra processed foods and Cokes and soft drinks
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Yeah.
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From food stamps because
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Right.
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A large percentage of the money of our food stamps are spent on ultra processed foods that are poisoning systematically these poverty stricken communities. Yeah. We’re just trying to reallocate the resources and and change school lunches and and mandate PE and mandate nutritional training
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Yeah.
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And mandate that your doctor has to have nutritional training and mandate that in elementary school through junior high, you get nutritional training. That’s what these bills were about. Okay. While I’m in the middle of trying to explain to congressmen and congresswomen how detrimental a soft drink is because they don’t they don’t know.
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They’re I I’m trying to just say, look. The difference between a very chronically ill diabetic patient and a healthy patient is literally about a teaspoon of sugar in the bloodstream. Do you know how many teaspoons of sugar are in a Coke? And as I’m in the middle of trying to say it, one of the congresswomen holds her Coke up in the microphone For effect. And drinks her Coke. Wow.
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And, and everyone just busts out laughing. But I’m like, okay. Well, the answer is eight to 12 teaspoons of sugar, and you’re giving it to a child. You’re giving a child eight to twelve teaspoons of sugar at a time, and then you’re wondering why our children are obese. You’re wondering why over seventy percent of Americans are obese. You’re wondering why diabetes is at an all time high.
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Or whether you failed to eat ADHD test that I took.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Did I fail? Yeah.
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Well, you didn’t fail, but you do have a you need to be checked out a little little further.
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There you go. Now, imagine if I had a job that sucked. Yeah. So if I had a job that sucked, I bet I would have answered very often to most of the ones. I was like, no. Those don’t apply. Yeah. So then I would need ADHD medication.
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01:12:21
Yeah. I told you this on the very first podcast. I’m not splitting atoms on the weekends, man. I failed kindergarten. I’m literally dyslexic. I’m ADHD. They wanted me on Ritalin. My parents are like, we don’t sana put him on Ritalin. They said he’s gotta go to pre first. I was in a class with kids with helmets, dude. Like, I kid you not. I didn’t go to first grade. I went to pre first.
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They thought I was mentally handicapped. And I’m, like, sitting in there, like, oh, man. This sucks. I remember to this day, I was, like, I don’t belong in here. Ai but I just didn’t fit in that ecosystem. I was I’m sure I was hyper. I’m a fucking kid.
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Of course, I’m I’m hyper now, and I’m sana grown man. I get it still.
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You know, I have a new puppy. And, when you have a puppy, you ai, like, oh, this is what kids are like. Like, this puppy is insane. So I have Marshall who’s out here today. So Marshall’s almost ai, and Marshall’s really chill. I mean, he’s got plenty of energy, super healthy, runs around, gets a lot of exercise in. But this fucking puppy is off the rails. Yeah.
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This there’s I have videos of them playing. Like, Marshall will pick up a toy and then, like, Charlie would come over and try to grab the toy. He’s leaping at him, throwing himself through the air, diving underneath him, biting his face, the rolling around. He’s insane. He can’t sit down.
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And then he crashes, then he wakes up, he pisses and shits, and then he wants to eat, and then he wants to go at it again. Take that and stick it in a classroom. Yeah. That’s that’s what you’re doing with kids. Kids are basically human puppies, and we’re making them sit in these fucking classes.
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And some of them, guess what, have more fucking energy than the other ones.
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Yeah.
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And they’re more active, and they’re more physical just like dogs, just like every other animal, every other organism. And those ones will probably do great things if they find something that interests them because they have more energy and because they can they can they can blow off all the shit that doesn’t mean anything to them, which is ai a lot of the obligations weigh you down and take away your effectiveness of the thing that you actually enjoy.
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If you have a bunch of things you’re concentrating all of your time on that are basically bullshit, the thing that’s really important to you, you don’t have any you this you don’t have any resources to allocate Yeah. To fix that thing, so you’re gonna be less effective at it. Yeah.
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Whereas a retard like me can just fucking laser beam ai things, and I could just just try I could just ignore every I’ll throw my clothes on the ground. I don’t give a fuck, dude. I just I could live in a cave, and I can I can just, like, lock down? But the the but that’s how you succeed at things.
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I would have to hyperfocus. Ai, and and I if I if it’s something I’m interested in, it’s easy. I can hyperfocus. I can retain. I have to
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do data recall. If it’s something you’re interested in.
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If it’s ai Ferris Bueller’s Day Off and it’s some mundane
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Bueller. Yeah.
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Just distort your man. And I can’t sit still in this environment.
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But that’s why you’re successful. This is what people don’t understand. That’s a superpower. But I know for sure,
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man, I would have anxiety if I didn’t work out. I have anxiety. Oh, yeah. They were ai, when we were in Europe and I didn’t work out, day three, I’m like restless, man. And that anxiousness comes out in
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To me, that’s like going somewhere and not eating. I’m not gonna do that either.
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Yeah.
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Like, if I go on vacation, I literally bring kettlebells. I have two seventies and two fifties. They travel with me. You
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put them in a suitcase?
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Sai ai them.
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They’re like, I
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ship ship them to where I’m going and have them delivered. I don’t give a fuck, dude. I’m working out. Because I’m I I have a problem.
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Sana said he did that with that rock? He tell I swear he told me a story. He he fucking packed that rock that he has people carry.
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Ai did that?
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Yeah. For something. I remember him telling that story, and I think it got lost.
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He keeps that rock on the mountain. And I’m like, don’t you worry someone’s gonna be a fan of tag? He’s like, no. The kind of person who would take it too much of a pussy to carry it. Oh my God. That’s funny. It’s so hilarious. This fucking rock that he carries everywhere. But but, you know, you have to stay healthy. And ram me, that’s my medicine.
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I’m not if if I was a diabetic and I would say, I’m not taking any insulin. Well, guess what? You’re a type one diabetic. You’ve if you don’t take insulin, you’re gonna fucking die. Right? Unfortunately, you got bad genes when it comes to creation of insulin. That’s how I am with exercise, man.
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Like, I’m doing if I take a day off, I’m a maniac. I don’t like it.
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Yeah.
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I don’t like that feeling. I mean, I can take a day off. I could relax. But day two day two is ai Yeah. I can’t. Also that my brain is like, hey. What are you doing? You gonna you gonna be a lazy fuck now? Is that what you’re doing? You’re gonna be a fat pussy?
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But just that hyper focus and going through a workout and then you come out the other end and it’s mental. It’s a huge mental rage. Ai. And if ai just a tiny little ram a eight, it’s creeping up. Now it’s an eight, and then I go work out and it’ll be a two.
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It’s good for everybody. Listen, the nicest people that I know do Jiu Jitsu, and I know that sounds crazy. The nicest people that I know are ai regularly yanking on people’s elbow joints and fucking tackling them. Then they’re the nicest people I know. And the reason why they’re nice is because they take their fucking medicine. Mhmm.
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They take their anti aggressive medicine ai and the idea that that somehow is bad and the ai what we need to do is eliminate all masculinity. No. You need to harness it ai like everything else. I mean, this is just ai the same response that we had to nuclear power. Oh, we have 3 Mile Island.
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Stop the nukes. No more nukes. We’ve got a pro now figure out how to harness it. We were really bad at gasoline in the seventies. We put fucking lead in it, and that’s why everybody got lead poisoning. Mhmm.
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Then we had to come up with unleaded gasoline, which is just don’t add lead to it, you fucking assholes. Don’t burn lead and blast masculinity. Ai think we’re gonna
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you you brought up lead, and I’ve been I wanted to get into the, one, the state of Texas stuff, but which parallels and and runs into the glyphosate shit. If you wanna talk about that, do you wanna
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I would love to talk about that.
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Because one of the things that’s happening
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ai that they’re they’ve got an alternative to glyphosate that’s even worse.
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Yeah. They do. And so one of the things that’s happening is at the federal level, they are looking to give big ag and big chemical immunity on all these chemicals they’re spraying on our food, and they’re voting in secret. This is another fuckery moment. As part of one of the bills that’s being reviewed by congress, they are attempting to vote in secrecy where we don’t know who cast their vote to cast unified immunity on any future lawsuit against glyphosate or Atrazine.
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And we know how well that work for vaccine manufacturers, so maybe we should try it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And we do know, let’s let’s point this out that the company Sana that manufactures glyphosate is the same company that created Agent Orange, is the same company that created DDT, is the same company that with Bayer tested their products on Nazi concentration camp victims, is the same company that pushed product in the third world nations where they didn’t have checks and balances and couldn’t come after them.
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So let’s just stop right there. If Satan was the CEO, don’t you think you’d be the head of that company? Oh
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my ai, dude.
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Could you imagine? But if, like, if you said, well, there’s a company in the world where Satan’s the CEO. What what company do you think that would be? And then you had all this evidence. You lay it out. You’re like, oh my god. Satan’s alive. He’s real. Oh, he’s He’s killing people with age Agent Orange.
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Yeah. And what’s crazy is in Europe, there in in Europe, the allowable amount of glyphosate is literally almost one fourth of what they’re allowing in The United States. And so the farmers and the lobbyist groups here in the state of Texas, when we tried to pass this food bill, okay, we shocked industry because candidly, it was the land of misfit toys.
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It’s literally meh, and I don’t mean that derogatory, but it’s ai it’s just a bunch of average Joes testifying against lobbyists. And so it was me, an 18 year old girl named Grace, who’s a food advocate, my buddy Jason Karp, who owns, like, a food company, and then doctor Hyman in the initial,
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testimonies. Hold up. There’s an 18 year old girl that’s testifying. Yeah. She’s a food expert.
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She’s a food advocate because A food advocate. She has been able to cure, I don’t know her exact story, but her she’s brilliant.
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Shah literally a Thunberg of food?
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Yeah. Pretty ai. But she had a
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She’s on the the polar opposite But she’s
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a brilliant girl because she was able to cure some of her chronic illness through no longer eating ultra processed foods. And so now she’s, become an advocate for these things.
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What do you do you know what illnesses she had?
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I don’t remember. I don’t wanna say her name’s Grace Price if you She’s
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only 18. That’s ai crazy.
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Yeah. She’s brilliant. She killed it. But here’s what happens. It’s amazing. We go to testify. Who shows up? You you expose this. I think I texted you about it, and then you talked about it on the podcast. The American Heart Association came to testify against us because they didn’t want Coke and Twinkies and soft drinks and ultra processed foods removed from school lunches, Sai programs.
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Well, listen. Thank god they’re around to to to set everybody on the right path. Thank god the American Heart Association is there to stand up for Twinkies and Coca Cola, which, by the way, I enjoy. I mean, if I could just have a day where I didn’t think about my health at all, I would love a nice glass of Coca Cola with a few Twinkies.
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Yeah. They’re fucking delicious. But I know if I did that an hour later, I would wanna die. Sai would feel so bad. And when I do that now, this is the thing that I every now and then, I will fuck off and, like, eat an ice cream sundae.
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And I feel so bad that I go, how many people feel like this all the time? Exactly. How how many people this is their default state? And then you add it to a non robust body. So you add it to a body that’s been sedentary, been eating this stuff forever.
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So you have this constant cascading effect of inflammation, your fat, your your back hurts, your head you got brain fog. All day long, you’re dealing with this, and that’s your default. So what what happens to me for a very brief amount of time or if I drink a milkshake, I’m like, oh, I feel like shit. That’s their whole life.
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Yeah. And you’re describing my dad. Uh-huh. My dad is in that system where he literally just I love him, but he believes in all this bullshit that he’s told he goes to the doctor and they sai, you know, historically, this is when he was younger. He’d be on four or five meds, and they go, oh, everything’s good. Everything checked out good. And he’d come back and be, yeah, doctor said everything’s good.
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You’re on six meds, dude. What do you mean everything’s good? You’re on six fucking medications. Yeah. My dad is now on 12 prescription medications and ended up in the hospital last weekend because of contraindications in the drugs.
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The third leading cause of death in America is medical misdiagnosis. Sai, come in. We can do a full workup. We can do all things. Yo.
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You
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are dad.
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Fucking listen.
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Yeah. Yeah. My I my parents take vitamins now, finally.
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It it and it’s ai, dude.
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Yeah. It’s weird, man. People don’t wanna listen to their kids, and they don’t wanna change the path that they’re on. Because then they have to admit their whole life has been kinda stupid. Yeah. People don’t wanna admit that. They they don’t wanna admit that they’re a buffoon.
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People are so they cling so hard to their identity of being correct. Yeah. It’s it’s too much of what you think of when you think of yourself as your choices and the way you think about things.
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And that’s where the industry’s done a killer job though, Joe.
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I know. But for people to that are listening to this, if you find yourself in that little category, really that’s the weakness. The weakness is not in admitting that you’re admitting you’re wrong exposes that you’re wrong and that’s weakness. No. The real weakness is not being able to admit that you’re wrong. That’s the real weakness because then you’ll look, everybody’s wrong sometimes. Everybody does something wrong sometimes.
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It’s part of being a human. Our brains are it depends entirely on the interactions that you’ve had the day, how much taxes you owe that you don’t think you’re gonna be able to pay, your credit card statements, your fucking, your wife hates you. You think your friend might be fucking doing something shady in this business deal that you guys got together. You’re all fucking stressed out all the time. Yeah.
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That’s most of us. People in those these conditions are going to make mistakes. You’re going to not look at data that you assumed was correct, and you’re gonna argue for something that was wrong. And this is we found this a lot during the COVID days. It was really hard for people that got shitty with me to come around and admit, like, oh, you kinda had a coin.
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There’s a few of them that I lost forever Mhmm. And that have never admitted that they were wrong, never admitted that this whole thing was like, they get caught up in a ai, but that’s weak.
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You’ve referred meh. Not just you, just just in general people hearing this, but we have helped so many fucking people with long COVID, vaccine related COVID.
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Yeah. Let’s call it long COVID. I don’t know anybody that wanted COVID that wasn’t vaccinated.
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One of the people you no. No? No. I honestly don’t. No. And one of the people you referred us, who’s ai a meh star, I didn’t get his permission to talk about hits, but I so I won’t say his name. But he he literally sent me a long email saying thank you. He’s the best,
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isn’t he?
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Like, he he’s real human. Voice everything is back. Like, he’s been complimented. He’s ai, I just cannot thank you and your team enough.
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I fucking love that guy. He’s a I wish we could say his name too because we can’t, but
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But I I did Jelly Roll’s ai, tell my story, man. Jelly Roll’s ai, tell
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is a man.
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He’s down 200 pounds. Not on a GLP one.
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It’s amazing.
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I wanna be clear.
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Yeah.
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He is not on a GLP one. Jelly Roll, when we met with him, he said, Bubba, I don’t want an asterisk next to this.
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Yeah. He also threw his phone away.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. He don’t have a phone anymore. He’s got an He
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calls me from his laptop.
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Yeah. Amazing.
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He’s got people Ai me from his laptop.
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That’s the way to be healthy. It’s really it’s real, man, you know. Yeah. If you can that’s another thing that people need to take into consideration when you’re talking about mental health. As much as social media is really valuable, I would never advocate for a ban on social media. I think it’s really valuable. It’s also really bad for you.
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And it’s really bad for you if you arya interacting with nameless, faceless people and they’re being negative to you.
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Yeah.
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You’re being negative to them. And, you know, you’re arguing about climate or fucking
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I don’t even I’m a nobody. I don’t have hardly any and I don’t even use it anymore other than for work because of the political stuff. People are like, you cook. And then they just start attacking you, and Sai and I’ll see that. I’m like, dude, I’m telling you the truth, man.
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I I get it. You don’t like what I have to say, but I’m not lying. Yeah. I mean, tell me where I’m lying. I’m documenting everything.
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I have the receipts.
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Yeah. No. I get it too. And what did you you know what’s really funny is when people get mad at you if you criticize the administration. Like, well, this is what you voted for. Yeah. Like, no. Listen I know. Fuckface. Nobody voted for people. No.
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Like, may maybe a few people thought that, like, some of the ice raids, the way they’re doing it, where they’re showing up at Home Depot and just getting hardworking landscapers and just sending them back to Mexico. Ed Calderon, who’s, an expert in the cartels who was on the other day, he was explaining to me that they’re getting kids that were brought over here when they were two, and they’ve been here for eighteen years.
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Like, so now they’re 20, and they don’t speak Spanish, but they they’re deporting them. Yeah. That’s Well,
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and that’s my thing. You can’t believe you have to be able to fucking stand your ground on individual topics. Ai, you’re all
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saying Nobody voted for that. Yeah. I certainly didn’t think that they were gonna do that. If they sai, this is what we’re gonna do. You know, all those kids that were brought over here when they were babies and been raised in America and have American friends and American jobs, we’re gonna send them to Mexico where they don’t even speak the language.
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Yeah. Fuck.
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You guys are evil. Yeah. Fuck you.
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Well, and then you that what you’re describing is literally the messages I get. Right. You fucking idiot. This is what you fought for. Right. Okay. I can tell you right now, secretary Kennedy is fighting for the things that were hot button topics for me. He was. He is. That team is.
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And we are trying to over call overhaul our food system and all of these different aspects. He doesn’t control the fucking EPA.
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Right.
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Like, I don’t control the I can’t control if Congress and don’t get it wrong. It is Republicans and Democrats, but it’s gonna take both of them colluding to pass this bill that will give immunity to chemical companies. And one of the things I do sana point out because, again, line of sight sai this there’s so many whack a moles and so much shit.
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Donald Trump probably doesn’t know this. One of the things that I’ve been ringing the bell with with the FDA is that most of the ingredients in drugs are coming from China. And if we’re worried about China and the future of our relationship with China, we probably shouldn’t be allowing all of our pharmaceutical companies to buy all of their ingredients from China, but let’s get into big chemical.
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Glyphosate. We have banned I don’t remember the name of the Chinese company, but several states have a ban have banned this major Chinese agrochemical chemical company from spraying any of our crops because we don’t want Chinese chemicals sprayed on our food. Dirty little secret. What percentage of Monsanto’s chemicals do you think come from China?
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A 100%.
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100%. 100 percent. So if you have a concern about national security, maybe we should stop letting Monsanto fucking systematically spray our food with a bunch of Chinese chemicals.
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Well, not only that. When ninety four percent of Americans show glyphosate in their blood, maybe we’ve got a little bit of an issue. But let’s just this is ai take the Stephen Colbert approach. It’s such a small number. Such a little amount. What are you worried about? Let’s put all your faith in the experts.
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No. Well, even that, there is a solution, and I don’t have all the answers, but we need to raise raise the questions. We gotta be able to have the discussions. Well, there’s still no solution
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is we have to figure out whether it’s possible to do regenerative agriculture through the entire country. Do you know that Putin is trying to do that with Russia? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Putin is banning, use of industrial chemicals in agriculture and trying to move this whole country to regenerative farming.
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Well, so I’m not saying ai a good guy. Talking to this farmer. Saying he’s a
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good guy. Not saying what he did in Ukraine was great. But for his country in that regard, like, when you’re a dictator, one of the things that’s gotta be great is you have the ability to go, oh, these people are fucking criminals. Like, look what they’re doing. Oh, they’re fucking over the health of all my people. They’re making it for their own profit.
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They’re making everyone else unhealthy, and then they’re gaslighting everybody, and then they’re they’re in bed with all these fucking congress people who they pay off because they they fund their reelection campaigns, and they fund their super PACs.
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Sai powerful, Joe.
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It’s so much money, man.
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Can you pull up again? Sorry. Is could you pull up on the Ways to Well website? There’s the sana testimonies. It’s big chemical. So where I was going earlier so I’m so ADHD.
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No. It’s okay. Now where I was going is if you’re a good dictator, you go, well, fuck those people.
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Yeah. You can fix it.
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Not that Putin’s a good dictator.
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You just have to say all these things.
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Yeah. I’m just saying.
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So one one of the things I learned from ram farmer and I don’t know farming. Obviously, I’m I’m not I’m not I’m a health care guy. I had a farmer tell me that 70% of our glyphosate exposure is because the dry harvesting. So it’s it’s in the last helm. We spray glyphosate apparently on the crops to dry them out faster Yeah. So we can harvest them faster. But that’s all in the last week.
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And if we didn’t do that, we would reduce glyphosate exposure by 70%. So it’s just a and we’re not on the cusp of a population boom. Our fertility rates are plummeting. Our population’s declining. We’re going to be headed towards a crisis. Elon’s covered all of this.
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Jamie, there’s one with it’s
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Sai vid it’s a video?
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It’s a video. Okay. And it’s, if you pull it up let’s see. Oh, because I want you to hear
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This one or the other one. This one?
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Ah, shit.
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I don’t know which one it is. I I think it’s
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Organic miss.
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Yeah. Click organic miss. It’s either that one or the one next to it.
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Shah was this.
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Oh, the organic yeah. That one. If it’ll play. This is a lobbyist for Big Chemical who testified here in Texas to kill the bill. And what he’s saying foods
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than there are from people eating foods that may have had pesticides. The truth is industry is terrified that what will happen
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is American mothers will see those labels and realizing they’re poisoning their children.
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You’re using manure for organic foods. It has to be solely manure, and that is the agent that that creates dangers in organic foods.
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A bag of Lay’s potato chips has a 50 profit margin. I I heard mister Busey earlier say something in nature. I don’t want the price of eggs to go up. Well, guess what? Eggs have one ingredient. Eggs.
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There are more accounts of people dying from eating organic foods than there are from people eating foods that may have had pesticides.
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Okay. These are the people We’ll
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we’ll keep it going up. What is the answer to that? Ai a people.
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Yeah. We’re we’re we’re we’re
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That was it? Yeah. Oh, that was the first thing that he said? Yeah. Oh, I got it. The more people are dying eating organic foods?
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That was his argument.
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Okay. First of all, look at him. That fella is filled with inflammation. Yeah. That fella, there’s no way that dude is hiking up to
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the top of that head. What I was gonna say is, this is where I was going earlier. This is so crazy. We the land of misfit toys, couple of us fucking every average day Joes.
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Yeah.
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Are going up against the American Heart Association.
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Yeah. But that’s
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H E B’s lobbying group, Buc ee’s lobbying group, Coca Cola, Pepsi. They brought the fucking heat. 31 to nothing. We got the vote through the senate. 31 to nothing. And then they said, holy shit. These assholes are gonna pull this off in the state of Texas. They descended upon Texas with lobbyists out the ass.
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And I’m getting calls like, hey. Can you come back to the Capitol? Can you come talk to congressmen and congresswomen? They’re looking to kill the bill. They’re gonna kill the bill. It was the highest level of fuckery. I I had senator Colehurst.
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I had Lacey Hull, a representative calling and saying, they are pulling out all the stops. Jesus. All the stops. And they arya telling congressmen and congresswomen, you’re gonna create food deserts. You’re gonna starve minority communities. This is a race play. Like, you name it.
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They’re gonna starve if they don’t have Coca Cola.
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We ended up having to concede, and this is kind of a it was a little bit of a smart move by Ai and senator Kohlhurst. We put glyphosate and atrazine in the bill to be listed as one of the substances that is known to cause harm. Okay? It isn’t a food ingredient, so it was never gonna make it through on the bill.
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It was literally a smokescreen to provide ground coverage and a negotiation tool, but it also allowed us to see who’s against it and what politicians are gonna support Big Chemical. And these motherfuckers came out in the droves. And one of the main guys from freaking, a representative from Waco tried to kill the bill and turn the bill into a study.
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He did he sai, this shouldn’t be a bill. This should just be a long term study. And then industry came in and said, we should kill the bill at the state level and push it back to the feds. We agree with you. There needs to be reform, but let’s push it back to the feds. And so but what people don’t understand is we got the bills done.
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We got three of these monumental bills done. One of them require labels that disclose any banned substances in the state of Texas now have to be put on the front of a label, almost like a black box warning.
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Sai, like, r d 40, all that ai, whatever.
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Any of the food dyes, any of the additives, it what’s not on there are Big Chemical because Big Chemical wasn’t a food ingredient, and the lobby for Big Chemical is so powerful. And that’s where I was going with this. They I mean, it is crazy, the lobby that Monsanto and these companies have, and they’re gonna do that at the federal level.
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And they’re gonna try and get this exemption, around all pesticides. And my rebuttal to that, and I said this on a call, is if I’m going to a bar and I’m not gonna fuck someone, there’s no reason to carry a condom. So if you’re not fucking me, why do you need the condom? If you’re not fucking the American people, why do you need a condom?
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You’re giving them a condom, but they’re telling us they’re not gonna fuck us. Yeah. It’s Why why do you need this exemption? If your product’s not causing cancer, why do you need an exemption?
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Yeah. Exactly.
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If your if your vaccines aren’t causing damage, why are we giving you a blanket exemption? It’s yet another smokescreen from industry to protect their profits and shut down anybody from ever being able to go after them for the damages they cause. 100%. And I don’t get it. Republicans, Democrats, they’re all implicitly involved in this.
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But we have to also understand that in a lot of countries, this stuff is banned. And it’s banned for a very good reason. It’s banned because we know it causes harm. Why in the greatest country in the world do we ever have anyone that we allow to advocate for harm for over for profit? Just just harm.
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It’s not like this is the only way to grow food. People grow food all over the world, man.
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Yeah.
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The idea that this is the only way to grow food is pretty insane, especially when we have examples. When we Yeah. But the thing is, like, scalability. I don’t know if White Oaks pastures, if you could scale that out.
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Yeah.
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And and and feed the world. I think we might have fucked up. I think we might have fucked up by jamming, you ai, I don’t know how many millions of people are in LA. 20? What’s what’s the number? What’s the real number? Yeah. You know, what’s the real number? No one knows. The ice raids had the fucking the streets empty.
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So no one knows what the real number is. Right? But just how many people do you have to feed? No.
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And even so Ai think I said this earlier. Didn’t food. Didn’t I tell you that there was in they call them the Monsanto papers or whatever. And in a FOIA request, there’s this leaked document between, the head of the EPA and Monsanto where he this individual says, if I get this done for you guys, you owe me a medal.
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Yeah. I sai that. Okay.
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I can’t remember this. Yeah.
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Then there’s the whole Coca Cola aspect of it too.
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The point is in LA, no one’s growing anything.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They’re just all So
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you have 20,000,000 people jammed into an area where the only thing that’s growing is weed. That’s the only thing that anyone’s growing in LA. Imagine if you get people so excited about tomatoes and and oranges as as you do about weed. Yeah. You know? And everybody’s ai, look at my tomato plants.
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Even what you talked about a bunch is hunting. Like, so many people are out of touch with the reality of what it takes to create food. No. I’m just saying, like, even where their food comes from.
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01:39:15
Well, where their food comes from for sure. So the problem what I was getting at is that I think we have set ourselves up or our population numbers in areas like Los Angeles and New York are so great that you almost need factory farming to provide those people with enough nutrition to stay alive.
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01:39:32
Mhmm. Like, Sai it it gets that weird. Because if you get to numbers. Right? If you get to 20,000,000 humans that aren’t growing food. Ai?
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01:39:40
So they need to get so somebody else they’ve they’ve, you know, pushed off to someone else the responsibility of acquiring food. All they have to do is give them currency to get that food. That is a new thing with human beings. That this is a new thing. It’s a new thing where we do that with enormous populations. And then, so what’s the solution?
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01:39:59
The solution is one of the most immoral and unethical solutions that anyone has ever come up with anything. Stuff a bunch of animals into a fucking warehouse, have them piss and shit into a giant pond that you have outside that literally is probably poisoning the air around it for miles
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Mhmm.
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And then spray the fuck out of this monocrop agriculture because you’ve completely distorted what nature is, and you’ve you’ve got thousand acres of corn. Like, that never happens in the world. And all the animals and all the plants are supposed to kinda, like, intermingle in an ecosystem.
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01:40:33
And for profit, you’ve decided to, like, set up this fucking Frankenstein lab where you just spray death juice all over the fucking corn, and then you subsidize the farmers so that corn syrup is in goddamn everything. Everything has including fucking salad dressing.
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Mhmm.
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You know? And then you have canola oil, which is really just rapeseed oil, and it’s a disgusting fucking industrial lubricant that you’re pretending is health heart healthy. And, like, this is this is the system that we’re in right now. Yeah. And most people want he you know, there’s a giant percentage of people that have been educated by traditional media that think that everything that I’m saying is conspiracy theory nonsense from bro ai guy
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Yeah.
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Which I ram, bro science guy. Yeah. That’s I have a degree in bro science. But this is all just real, folks. You’re you’re fucking poisoned. And if you continue to eat that way, you’re gonna be doomed. Your your body’s gonna fall apart. That’s just a fact. We know it. We all know it.
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01:41:35
Processed food diets are just there’s no one that can say they’re good for you, they’re bad for you. Here’s the question. Do we have enough speak in this? Do do do we have enough people’s understanding of the dire consequences where we can have a real conversation about how do we feed all these people ethically and morally?
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01:41:54
Because right now, we have ag gag laws where if someone like I say, if you work at some slaughterhouse or some you’re not allowed to film the atrocities that you
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see that.
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01:42:03
Yeah. There’s laws. Yeah. You will go to jail. So if you show up at one of those horrible pig farms where they got these pigs, like, stuffed next to each other and shitting through grates Mhmm. And then that you ever seen that?
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I’ve seen that.
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01:42:16
Yeah. It’s brutal, man. If you film that and put it on TikTok, like, this is where your bacon comes from, you go to jail. You go to jail.
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01:42:22
Oh, I didn’t know that.
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01:42:23
Yeah. If they’re doing nuts. If they’re abusing the animals, like, there’s videos of guys that are working in slaughterhouse, like, beating cows over the head and kicking them when they’re down and slicing their throats, letting them squirm around. Those kind of videos, you’ll go to jail for filming them. Yeah. No consequences for the people that are doing it. Because here’s the other dirty secret.
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It’s just so short ai.
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01:42:43
Here’s the other dirty secret. Where do you think they get their employees from? If you you’re gonna run an disgusting, unethical, immoral business, who are you gonna hire? First of all, it’s disgusting dirty work. Then we know it’s a smell pig shit all day. Who you gonna hire?
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01:43:00
Well, you’re gonna hire people that snuck into the country because you don’t have to have documents on them. You don’t have to pay them any ai of health care. You don’t have to give them any kind of benefits. You don’t have to give them jack shit.
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01:43:12
Yeah.
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01:43:12
So you benefit from keeping that fucking border wide open. And these people that have publicly talked about this, we need the labor in this country because they’re doing jobs that Americans don’t wanna do. Sana, you should really ask yourself, do we need those jobs? And do we need to be doing it the way that we’re doing it where those jobs are a necessity in 2025? Yeah.
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01:43:35
Or are we captive to an evil industry that cares more about money than it does about humans Yeah. Which is demonic.
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Well, I think you see the history throughout all industry. You know? It’s that it’s it’s just But it’s
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01:43:50
sai it’s a always a battle of good and evil, and that’s what we have to understand. Like, don’t lose faith. Like, oh my god. The people suck. No. No. No. No. No. A small amount of people suck, and some of those people get power. And then they control massive amounts of people who mostly don’t suck.
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Most people
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don’t suck. You’re saying is, and we’ve talked about this, but I swear to god, like, when Denise came on to WasteWell to help me start this thing almost ten years ago, our conversation was, if we keep our moral compass, if we make this about people this is a this is the end of God truth, man.
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01:44:26
This isn’t Hey, brother. I love you. You don’t have to tell me. This is one of the reasons why you’re on this. You’re a really good person, like a genuinely good person. And I’ve seen you interact with fucking dozens of people that are my very good friends. I’ve seen you I’ve talked to people that I that I knew, but that you maybe didn’t know that I knew them independently, and they’ve told me they’ve had amazing experiences with with you.
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01:44:51
You’re a good guy. I know and you’re making good money. But your mindset is so on the money. Like, do the best that you can for people, and all the other stuff will fall into place. Like, the problem with corporations is that you can’t function like that.
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01:45:06
Yeah. You have an obligation to your stakeholders. So even if you’re a good person, which I think most of those people are probably good people that have been co opted, and then there’s this diffusion of responsibility because you’re a part of a gigantic corporation. Maybe I don’t like what’s going on. Maybe I don’t like what we’re doing. But, hey, all I can do is affect what I do around me.
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01:45:24
Ai, when you’re a defense lawyer and you’re helping someone get off, you know he’s a murderer. Yeah. And you have to help. Yeah. Because this is your job.
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01:45:30
Like, the guy stabbed his ai, and you have to pretend he didn’t.
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01:45:33
I I can even have empathy for that because
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I can do.
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This is hard, like, even running this company. I’m under attack. I mean, we have 500 employees. I’m battling the FDA. I’m battling the state of Texas. We were worried about the DEA and it changing telemedicine sai. But then you still have competition. And beyond market pressure from big pharma, there’s other compounding pharmacies.
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There’s other telemedicine companies. There’s other telemedicine apps. There’s other AI driven. And you’re sitting here, and I’m watching what the market’s doing, and I disagree with it. And I’ve speak my ground. And I if I’m wrong, I let down 500 people.
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01:46:08
If I get this wrong, I disappoint and let down 500 fucking people that believed in me, that took a leap of faith, that have worked at these companies because I have refused to outsource care. What I have seen when peep when I came on this podcast, I guess, almost four years ago now the first time, we had this boom.
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01:46:27
We had only managed, like, 7,000 patients. I go on here and 20,000 people ai to register in, like, a day. And I’m like, holy shit. And people are like, you guys suck, and why can’t you be in my state? And I’m like, because to get into your state is a lot more complicated.
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01:46:44
The the way my competitors are doing it is they’re just outsourcing to a telemedicine doc that has no training in this disease state, and that to me is no different than big pharma. If we’re going to just push pills and one size fits all approach, how is that medicine? That’s not predictive, preventative, and ai.
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And the vision of this company was to be predictive, preventative, and personalized. And I’ve had people try and buy us out, and I’ve had people offer to buy us out, and I could take a payday. But I look at that and I go, we’re barely scratching the surface. And the day I sell, this thing is no longer what it is. No.
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I really believe that. It’s just gonna be a money
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01:47:23
I have no you don’t have to say any of what you just said because I know that you would never do that. I know who you are. And to speak to the level of personalization you guys do, I get vitamins that are personally adjusted to whatever my blood work is. And that’s what I take now.
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01:47:39
I take ways to well vitamins. I take eight of them. I just throw them on my mouth, swallow them all at once. Some people think that’s gross. It’s easy for me. I ai a big bottle. Nothing?
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01:47:47
Oh, I would drink water
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for sure. You drink
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01:47:49
water. No. No. No. No. No. My god. Damn. How would you even do that? I couldn’t even swallow one without water. I know people who will swallow a
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01:47:56
bunch of pill. I can’t do it. I have to sip one pill at a time.
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01:47:59
They have
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no Oh, man. Justin Ram, when he would take his vitamins, he would just throw, like, a whole handful in and just swallow them. I’m like,
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01:48:04
why do you do that? No water?
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01:48:05
Yeah. I don’t know he’s a huge human, but Jesus.
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01:48:08
That’s ai genes. They’re used to eating mushrooms shah way when they would go on berserker raids. But, you know, I just that’s all I have to take now. And, I I’m sana meh get my new blood work soon to see where everything’s at. I think I’m gonna add a bunch of stuff back in, particularly ai, and then a bunch of other stuff that I was taking that, really seems to have worked in terms of stopping macular degeneration, age related macular degeneration.
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01:48:33
I think that and the red light therapy has worked. I Sai don’t use reading glasses anymore when I read my phone. The hell are
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01:48:39
you, man?
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01:48:40
That’s nuts.
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01:48:41
And GHK and, BPC and stem cells and all of these things have, benefits in every one of those aspects. There was that study out of Europe. I think we covered it last time for, degenerative eyesight loss in using red light therapy.
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01:48:55
Yeah. My eyesight is still not the best. Like, if I put a pair of readers on, I can see better, but I have no problem reading. It’s just ai a little fuzzy, but not to the point where I can’t read things anymore. But it was getting worse.
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Yeah.
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It was getting significantly worse, like, every six to eight months, I would notice a a ai, like, fuck, man. I can’t see shit anymore. And then I started wearing reading glasses. I’ve stopped that. Yeah. So it’s not just stopped in its tracks, but my eyesight has gotten better. Mhmm.
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01:49:25
Which is nobody thinks that’s possible. Ask most ophthalmologists, like, what? You’re gonna take vitamins and you’re gonna, like, stare at
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01:49:32
the meh light. Because all of these things are in an effort to refuel ATP, and and ai and ocular degeneration requires an immense amount of ATP. And as our cells begin to degrade, those are the first cells that are gonna go and begin to lose their functionality. Yes. And so if we can refuel ATP and maximize a p ATP, then we can optimize your chances at these degenerative things not occurring.
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And that’s my whole point of these building blocks, peptides, stem cells, amnion, purified, like, all of it. All of all of it. PRP, you name it. All of these things are tools in the tool belt that aren’t readily available or even talked about in traditional meh. And it’s not because your doctor or clinician’s a bad guy or girl. It’s because they’re in an insurance model, and insurance doesn’t cover any of these things.
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Exactly. And the that’s the real problem in this country, that everything has been co opted by businesses, And it’s not the right path towards your health. And there is a path towards your health, and we have to fucking light the way. And we have to say, hey, this, this road that we’re on, do you know goblins built this road? Do you know this road leads to the fucking goblin house?
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01:50:43
Yeah. Guys, I know way around to the enchanted forest. Go this way.
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01:50:48
In another you’re our mutual friend. I asked him and his mom if I could talk about this, Jesse Michaels. So Jesse’s dad is is older, and he’s suffering from dementia. And they flew down here. I said, just get him down here. And, again, it’s very nuanced. We did a lot of things. He was here for three days. They’re academics. He’s Jesse’s brilliant. You can tell that kid’s brilliant, but his parents are brilliant too.
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01:51:09
They’re psychologists. And so both his parents are psychologists, and his dad’s battling dementia and, has had cognitive decline. And they came in, and his mom was a mega mega skeptic. And on day three, she came into the clinic with tears in her eyes, hugged Veronica, hugged the team, which I gotta thank the team that is here in Austin because those people are unbelievable.
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01:51:33
I love my team.
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01:51:34
Yeah. But They’re the magic. I am not grandmas they’re the magic. Not me. Great place. It’s very positive.
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01:51:39
Yeah. And she hugged us and cried and said last night like, this stuff makes me emotional because it I believe it, man. I’m telling you. I’ve seen it. I believe it. I’m a believer. You’re never gonna change my mind. I don’t give a shit what these people are saying at the federal level.
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01:51:55
This stuff is life changing, and I’ve witnessed it.
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01:51:57
The dementia story.
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Tears in her eyes, hugged the team, and said, last night, I had my husband back. If nothing else
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01:52:07
What did you do?
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01:52:08
Is all we get out of this. We did stem cells. We did, he was there for the three day experience, which was, like, hyperbaric, cellular therapy, peptides, hit him with everything but the kitchen sink, like what we do with with all these folks, and we systematically red light.
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01:52:23
We did all of it, but he’s here for a three day experience, and we run him through these things just to see if we can launch him into, like, a healthier space going back home, reduce inflammation, help with all of these different aspects, hit him with GHK, hit him with BPC, hit him with stem cells, all of these different peptides and building blocks.
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01:52:40
Anyways, she she literally was in tears and hugged the team and said, for the first time in a long time, I had my husband back last night. It was ai the olden days. Like, we talked. We laughed. We hugged. Ai had my husband back.
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And she sai, if if it’s just that, if all I get out of this is that one night, thank you. Like, thank you. And I talked to Jesse, and he’s like, my dad’s doing the best he’s done in months. I’m not saying that these things are gonna cure dementia. I’m not saying any of that.
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01:53:09
If I had dementia, I would and that happened, I would move to Austin. I’d be camped out right next to your fucking building. What time are you guys opening? Do do you know what I’m saying? Yeah. Like
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01:53:18
But so many people think there’s no hope. And and people with obesity, like Jelly Roll, five hundred pounds, man.
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01:53:25
I know.
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And look at him.
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01:53:27
It’s incredible.
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He’s he’s gone from walking to now he can run. Now he’s playing pickup basketball games.
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01:53:32
That stupid rock.
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01:53:33
Yeah. I was Well, I think he did.
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01:53:35
He would because he went to ai with camp. Yeah. He went up to the top of Mount Pigscutt. He was on, lift, run, shoot. He was amazing on it. Yeah. He’s such a sweet soul of a human being. He really is.
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01:53:45
He’s the nicest guy.
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01:53:46
And he looks like a criminal. A full on criminal with fucking tattoos all over his face. Looks so sketchy, but he’s so sweet. Yeah. He’s such a good dude. And the fact He’s gonna be on the cover
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01:53:55
of Meh Health and GQ now.
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01:53:56
That’s incredible. It’s incredible. Well, what he’s done is super, super inspirational.
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01:54:01
And I hope it motivates other people. Like Yeah. You can get the weight off. Yeah. It doesn’t have to be a GLP one. Right. It doesn’t have to be and even those, like, this is where it’s nuanced. Like, I understand the backlash against GLP ones, but when titrated down and unique and proprietary to a dosage unique to that patient and when stacked with things like hormone optimization and, you know, IGF Yeah.
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01:54:27
We can burn that fat off and maintain lean muscle mass, and we’re quantifying it because we have a DEXA at the clinic. So anybody who comes in, we run them through a DEXA now. We know their lean muscle mass, their body fat, and the goal is to preserve muscle because I would argue more important than getting the body fat off, and this is the pivot that I’ve tried to get jelly roll to and other folks, the fat’s gonna come off.
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01:54:48
Let’s focus on building muscle. If we can build muscle and help build leg strength and help put muscle on your frame, that is going to increase your metabolic burn rate. That is going to put you in a better position for long term health. Don’t make it all about the scale.
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01:55:06
Right.
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Make it about your body composition and how can we transition that composition to optimize lean muscle, minimize visceral and subcutaneous fat, but we don’t wanna give up a pound of muscle. Right. Keep all it’s a motherfucker to put that muscle back on. You don’t wanna lose that muscle.
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01:55:23
Yeah. Even with hormone optimization, it’s a constant battle. You have to constantly be working. Mhmm. And if you don’t, you’re gonna get speak. And that this is not a good thing. It’s not virtuous to be weak. And this is a problem with the the we know we’re talking about masculinity earlier. Yeah.
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01:55:39
Hyper awful masculinity is ai. Right? Yeah. They show up in a boat. They kill everybody. Ai, that yeah.
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01:55:45
Shane Gillis’ bid on vikings?
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01:55:47
Oh, the gay vikings. Well, that’s what
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01:55:51
they were too. Terrifying.
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01:55:52
Yeah. That’s what they were too. Yeah. But I think everyone was gay back then. I remember, you know, when you read about the Spartans, sai like, hey, it was this unusual? Is everybody gay? And then you’re ai, Socrates? Oh, he was gay too? What the fuck was everybody gay? I think I think it was different back then. I think the concept of, gay and straight is a fairly new one.
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01:56:13
I think back then, everybody just fucked everybody.
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01:56:16
I’m sure. It was
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01:56:16
wild times. Chimps do. It was wild ai. Chimps, like bonobos. You ever watch the bonobos? They have one rule. The mom won’t fuck the sun. That’s it. Everybody’s fucking everybody else is fucking everybody.
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01:56:27
Well, no. It was chimpanzees in that. Was that bono those weren’t bonobos. No. What was that chimp? Yeah. That was
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01:56:32
wild. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Bonobos are they’re our weird hippie, like, cousins.
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01:56:37
I’ve heard you’ve been talking about Jesse’s deal with the,
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01:56:39
the tridactyls.
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Insane. And then you’ve Ai know we I think we talked about have you you’ve watched the one on Homo Ledi? That bipedal primate that buried the dead deep in caves, ai,
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01:56:52
we know
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shit. We know nothing
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01:56:54
about our history. We’re learning, but it’s a scattered we’re it’s not like, oh, we found the log book. We know what happened at every step of the way. No. We’re finding, like, little pieces of evidence from a burnt down building. Ai, what is this? Oh, this looks like I think this is
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a lighter.
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01:57:12
Well, I know you had Gary you had Gary Nolan on too. I haven’t heard it meh. But where is your head at now? Ai I know you’ve gone back, forth, back, forth.
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01:57:20
Something’s going on.
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Yeah.
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01:57:22
But whatever this thing is going on, first of all, from a material science perspective, which is what Gary was here for. Mhmm. Well, Gary was here to talk about his cancer research, first of all, which is fascinating. And then, amazing stuff, like, very interesting. Then we we started talking about, how this was sort of an accidental introduction.
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01:57:43
Someone brought to him a piece of some kind of a craft supposedly that crashed and said, could you analyze this and find out what this is?
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01:57:52
Someone in the CIA? Probably.
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01:57:57
I don’t know. One of them, a piece was brought to the Art Bell show. They said that was from a crash from, like, the nineteen forties. But this piece that had a direct chain of evidence, so people knew where it’s from a crash from ai sixties in Brazil. It was made out of almost pure silica.
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01:58:20
But the magnesium, the ratios, the isotope ratios in the magnesium had to be from a place that was experiencing an what is the equivalent of a neutron bomb going off every two minutes for nine hundred years.
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01:58:35
What the hell, dude?
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01:58:36
Right. Like Yeah. This is not like, this would be hyper difficult to make today. Not saying it’s impossible. This is what he’s saying. It like, the odds of someone making that ai fifty Yeah. What What are you talking about? And then there’s this this alloy that they found where there’s layers at, like, an atomic level that this has been, like, a three d printed alloy with, like, levels of these metals that don’t occur organically.
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01:59:05
And this is from 1970. Like, this isn’t possible today Yeah. With human beings in 2025. No one’s making that shit. There’s not a fact you would know.
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01:59:16
Someone would have heard about it unless there’s some blacklisted military operation deep in the Nevada Mountains that no one knows about that’s doing some crazy super funded shit that they ai to congress about. Okay. Maybe. But in 1970, were you doing that? Did you have that alloy in 1970 that we can’t make today? That seems unlikely.
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01:59:34
Yeah.
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01:59:34
So something’s going on.
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01:59:36
Well, in your with your podcast with representative Sana, I mean, I know she’s on the political side, but I was listening to that. I’m like, to have a congresswoman saying these things and then even Tulsi came out.
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01:59:48
She was talking about Tulsi. Interdimensional beings. And I was like, what are you saying? You know, you ai why I reached out her to her to have her on the podcast? Because, she made a tweet about the description of angels, what angels look like. She’s Oh, I didn’t even see it. I was like, woah. Woah. Woah.
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02:00:05
I go, did you did you tweet this? And she goes, yeah. Ai I was like, you sana talk to me about this? We never even talked about it. We never even got into the conversation. But we got into aliens. And we got into which you know, I think that good and evil are real things.
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02:00:22
I think they’re real things. And I think there’s this very big struggle both on a micro and a macro scale. I I I think internally, there’s a battle of good and evil. You know when you wanna do something good, but you can get away with doing something bad. The right thing to do is to do the good thing, And then you feel better because of it.
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02:00:44
This is like a weird it’s not ai it’s impossible for you to go into evil. If the situation was that you were, you know, in another time, in another part of the world, in a horrific war, and you had to raid a village because everyone else is raiding the village. And you have to kill everybody because everybody else is killing everybody. We’re that’s a part of us. There’s but there’s a there’s a real struggle between figuring that out.
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02:01:11
I wonder if that exists with some other beings from somewhere else. Mhmm. And this is this is where you get into biblical depictions of gods and angels and demons. And you go, well, what it what are we really talking about? If these people were trying to write something down to represent a real event that took place, We’re looking at it in the framework of a society that believes in aliens because we’ve experienced space travel.
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02:01:42
We know how to fly in planes. We know how to fly to the stars, and we know where this goes. We know where this goes. This goes to a better place where you get really good at it ai then you come visit us. Mhmm. Right? So we know that.
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02:01:56
But back then, they didn’t know that. Yeah. They didn’t know anybody could fucking fly. Right? So when if they’re experiencing angels who literally fly and and and devils.
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02:02:05
And these fucking things that they ai, the like, the Brazilian one said that from Virginia meh like sulfur? Yeah. Is that weird that that’s what
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demons are supposedly vile? Stories. All of those story. And then he goes ai that.
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And he smells like sulfur.
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02:02:23
Scripture ai the book of Enoch, which I know isn’t, like, technically
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02:02:26
I’m reading that right now. I’ve got it on audiobook right now. I’m listening to it every day. It’s It’s fucking bananas.
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02:02:32
It’s The watchers
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02:02:34
Yeah. The watchers who came down from the sky to make the
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02:02:37
to Enoch, took him into speak, and gave him knowledge of agriculture and architecture Yeah.
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02:02:44
And you’re ai, what? Also sorcery. Oh, I didn’t I didn’t know that. Yeah. Which is probably technology.
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02:02:49
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would be to people in
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02:02:52
that area. 100%. Dude, I think we’re engineered. Ai think this is I think we are in a stage of our society where where the the growth is experiencing this confrontation with our nature. Like, the the growth of intelligence, the growth of the growth of awareness is experiencing this battle with the fact that wars are still going on.
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02:03:21
I think this is why, like, there’s a lot of shock, in some circles about the public’s backlash against what’s happening in Gaza. Like, almost like they can’t understand it.
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02:03:33
Mhmm.
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02:03:33
Like, you can understand, how is this possible that someone’s upset? You’re fucking telling me this is the only way in 2025 human beings can behave where you can bomb women and children? And any opposition to that is anti Semitic. That’s not flying today. You can’t do that today because this is a so we’re evolving, but we’re not there yet.
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02:03:57
We’re not at a place where we have no war. We’re not at a place where there’s no more murder. We’re not at a place where you don’t have to send the National Guard in Chicago because there’s 54 fucking shootings in a weekend. So if I was an alien civilization, I would wait. Yeah. I would do what we’re doing right now.
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02:04:15
I almost view it as a test. I’ve said this I’ve said this recently. I don’t remember who else. But in my mind, I look at it as kinda like what Graham Hancock says. What if we reached a level of of knowledge and sophistication, but there’s a reset button? And I know the cataclysmic events and all those things, and we know that happens.
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02:04:34
And we know what happens, I think, every seventy thousand years, there’s that it’s it’s a historical point. Yeah. It’s gonna happen. But separate from that, when we look at the cosmos sana we say once you have the ability to generate a certain reach a level two society and you reach that level two society, then you can create enough energy to bend space and ai.
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02:04:51
And in theory, you could fold time and traverse the cosmos.
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02:04:54
Yeah.
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02:04:55
Okay. What if the reason there’s not an exorbitant amount of intelligent life in the universe or the cosmos is you have to reach a certain level of spiritual accountability and knowledge and maturity before the technological advancement supersedes that or advances past it. Right? Because right now, if you gave us infinite power Yeah. We’re gonna be fucking dead.
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02:05:17
Well, we ai of It it it’s terrifying. Ai, we’re certainly in that situation when it comes to nuclear bombs. We have enough nuclear bombs to kill everybody over, and yet we’re still making them. Yeah. Everybody in the planet, we can get killed, and we’re still so stupid that we haven’t pointed at each other. Ai? So if I was an alien, I would wait.
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02:05:33
I think that makes sense that you have to achieve some sort of spiritual connection, but that is just assuming that you stay human and that human is the only way to go. You know, there’s this very highly criticized video, Peter Thiel, which is, ai of funny.
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02:05:50
The antichrist?
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02:05:50
No. No. No. That’s another one. Poor guy. Also, it kinda, like, looks a little too shiny to be a regular person. He’s a little too slippery looking, so that’s The reptilian. But he’s a thoughtful person. And I when I was asking him any question on the podcast, he has these long pauses before he answers.
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02:06:10
It’s a part of his speech pattern, part of his thinking. Well, the problem is he did that with the question of should the human race ai. Yeah. This guy this guy was ai, the answers they should. Right?
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02:06:22
Sai the guy was like pressing him, talking to him like he’s a regular person instead of just letting this air out. Letting you’re gonna you are you pressed for time? You got a fucking an hour and a half to talk to this guy. Let him talk. But this the the problem is we are awesome, and I love all the things that we do.
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02:06:43
I love how we create art and food, and we we create fun and comedy. We’re fun with each other. I love human beings. I I love our our creative ability. I love all the things about us. But this is not the only way that a life form can exist.
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02:07:02
And the idea that we have to stay this forever, although I love us, seems kind of silly. But this is like going back to Australopithecus and go, bro, fucking sticks and stones for life, bro. Fuck a house. Okay, bro? I’m down without no. That’s ridiculous.
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02:07:18
That’s crazy. And what’s the next logical step for an organism that is experiencing technological advancements far beyond anything that any other organism on the planet has come anywhere close to. Like, we’re we’re way out there. What’s the what’s the next logical step? Well, abandon everything that ruins us. Yeah. So what ruins us?
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02:07:40
All this greed that we’re talking about earlier. Where does all this come from? This comes from famine thinking. This comes from, tribal thinking, us versus them. This comes from trying to acquire resources because you wanna stay alive. All those things have been hijacked.
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02:07:56
All these human reward systems have been hijacked and monetized and then stuck into this corporate structure where you have to make more money every quarter. It’s craziness.
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02:08:06
When they back to psychedelics. When you do psychedelics, ego sheds and you go, there is no me. Like, there’s us. We’re in this together. And every time I think I’m I’m trying to be a good person. There’s never a time I’ve done a big dose of psychedelics and not thought about something I didn’t mean in third grade or, ai, I’ve gotta be better.
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02:08:28
I have to be more patient. I can’t lose my temper.
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Of course.
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02:08:31
My god, man. I really wish I wouldn’t have lost my temper over x. Yeah. That’s the benefit of it. Way more empathetic on this. I was selfish, and I was busy, and I was stressed, and I ignored this person’s cry for help.
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02:08:43
This is my point. I think we’re that we’re that close to not ever having to think about those things again. I think we’re that close. I think we’re that close to transcending what it means to be a human being, and I don’t know if it’s good. Yeah. I don’t know if it’s good.
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02:08:55
You’re saying good technology?
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02:08:56
Yeah. Because what we’re getting what we’re getting with humans is the blues. We’re getting Charlie Crockett. We’re getting Sturgill Simpson. We’re getting with humans, we’re getting beauty. We’re getting amazing voices. We’re getting paintings that make you go fuck. We’re getting muscle cars ai, dude, look at this thing.
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02:09:17
We’re getting with humans, we’re getting all this amazing stuff, but we’re also getting Gaza. We’re also getting Ukraine. We’re also getting the the the fucking the banking’s the housing scandal from 02/2008, the collapse. We’re getting evil shit. We’re getting demons.
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02:09:32
We’re getting, you know, the fucking we could go down the line with medications and pharmaceutical drugs and pharmaceutical drugs and chemicals and pollutants and all the different fucking scams that are running around in our education system. All of this is because human beings are capable of deceit.
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02:09:54
All of this is because human beings have these reward systems that are built in from us being territorial apes. And we’re all so attached to those things because they make great barbecue. Because because because a milks a chocolate milkshake is fucking delicious. Yeah. You know, because I do like pulling into speak terry’s and, ordering a double bacon cheeseburger on a boat.
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02:10:18
You know, it look it doesn’t mean that this is the only way to go, and I think we have to abandon that. Just like you have to abandon the idea of not having a cell phone anymore. There’s gonna be something that happens in our lifetime that allows us to communicate with each other in a different way.
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02:10:36
And I think it’s going to be mind to mind, and I think it’s gonna be through this interface, and it gets really challenging. It’s gonna get really challenging as to how do you know whether or not that interface is controlled? Is there a decentralized system where we ai that the power structures that exist right now in terms of big tech, you cannot allow that we we’ve shown that they’re terrible with censorship.
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02:11:00
We’ve shown that they’re terrible with dictating narratives and with siding with with, corporate structures that are doing things that are absolutely detrimental to people’s health and well-being, and they’re doing it and they’re lying and they’re using bots. And so we know that that exists right now. And if we have that controlling the mind, literal, the hive mind of the world, that’s not good.
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02:11:24
So it’s gonna have to be decentralized.
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02:11:26
If I’m understanding I wanna make sure Ai we do because we don’t have telepathy yet. I wanna make sure I’m understanding. I think I am. Like, I look at chat GPT or any of these large language models, and they’re a tremendous resource, and that is now the new Google. And that is where you research and get a lot of information and fact check things. Mhmm.
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02:11:43
And right now, you type it in a phone and you wait, you get an answer. In the future, I’m envisioning, like, Sai or one of these companies implants something, and you’re merged with that. So you think, like, the Matrix. I know Kung Fu. Percent.
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02:11:56
I know Kung Fu.
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02:11:57
100%.
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02:11:57
You just downloaded Jiu Jitsu app, and now you know Jiu Jitsu.
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02:12:00
And universal language. Universal telepath telepathic language. I think that’s on the agenda. And Elon’s talked about that.
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02:12:07
Amanda already has fucking headphones that she brought to Europe where you speak in one language, you give the person the other headphone, it tells them in English, and they’re in their language, and then translates theirs to English.
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02:12:17
Yeah. It’s literally there.
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It’s just a freaking earpiece, though.
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02:12:20
Yeah.
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And it’s in your ear. And imagine when that’s just in your head, and you’re not even using words. You’re just Well, how about this? Sharing an emotion.
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02:12:27
How about we abandon all languages except a new one? The whole world.
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02:12:33
Yeah. I
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02:12:33
mean, that’s probably the Tyler Of Babel, dude. That’s probably what how it went down. You see, when I read, like, these things like the book of Enoch or, like, you even if you try there’s ai the Ezekiel story. I’m always like, what are you what are they trying to say? Mhmm. Someone was trying to write something down.
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02:12:53
To dismiss it today as just fairy tales and that’s cute. I love how you’re really smart and you’re better than everybody else. That’s great. Because that’s part of the thing of being an atheist. Like, I’m smarter. Yeah. These are fairy tyler. Like, okay.
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02:13:05
Like, I don’t really believe a guy came back from the dead. But what were they trying to talk about? Like, what what is who was that guy?
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02:13:13
I don’t like people who have that definitive. You can’t be that Right. Being atheist is just as arrogant as saying my where was the saying, like, there’s 900 something religions and
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02:13:23
Mhmm.
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02:13:23
If you’re a Christian and you sai, oh, ai are wrong. Right. Being an atheist is even more arrogant. You’re literally saying everything’s wrong and there’s nothing. Like, I just Well,
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02:13:33
I think you
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02:13:34
There’s gotta be something.
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02:13:35
I think there is something, but I think you also have to look at it through the lens of human beings. Because, unfortunately, we are a dirty filter. And if you run the truth through us, the truth is gonna get contaminated. If you have, like, poured, like, if you pour pure tequila through a filter that has cat shit in it Yeah. You’re gonna get cat shit in your drink.
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02:13:57
That’s just how it works.
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02:13:58
Totally, mate. Yes.
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02:13:59
Right? Sai if you’re a human being and you’re telling a true story and you’re telling it for centuries before it ever gets written down. Right? And then it gets written down in one language, it gets translated into another language, And then you get a couple of rabbis who decide way back, like, what year was it where they took the book of Enoch out of the saloni.
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02:14:19
Right? They decided because it was from a rival faction, from the Qumran people. Those are the ones who believed in Enoch. Well, fuck those people. Those guys are assholes.
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02:14:27
Let’s take let’s get it out. So that that one story that throws the like, what they had to teach that in the Ai today. If you went to Sunday church and they were talking about the watchers coming down and breeding with female humans and providing sorcery and metallurgy and teaching them agriculture, like, what are you saying?
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02:14:46
Yeah. Like, what happened? Instead of this one very compelling story about Jesus Christ, which is very compelling because there’s no human beings historically. Like, even like, if you’re a Muslim, the the some of the things that Mohammed did, a lot of people like, hey. This is kinda crazy.
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02:15:03
Meh a nine year old? Hey, this is kinda crazy. Like, what do you like, he’s a warlord? Hey, this is kinda crazy. Like, with Jesus Christ, it’s very weird.
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02:15:10
Like, you have this insanely peaceful person in a time of ultimate chaos Mhmm. Where the Romans are literally taking people that they don’t like and pegging them to a fucking cross. Yeah. And then this guy decides he wants to die that way. And this is everybody’s story that interacts with them. Nobody’s like, oh, I knew Jesus. He was a cunt. The guy was a piece of shit.
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02:15:33
Let me tell you what he fucked my sister, dude. I told him, just don’t fuck my sister. Like, no. There’s no stories like that. It’s it’s weird.
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02:15:39
The story is weird. The story of this guy who tells you universal truths that apply today, You know? Treat everyone as if they are you. Yeah. And that he figured this out two thousand years ago? I wanna know who that guy was. Like, what was going on with that guy?
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02:15:57
Was that guy like the ultimate mushroom eater of all time? Did he figure it all out back then? And was he teaching these people that? Or was he an extraterrestrial? Was he what we think of as the son of God because he literally is born from another life form and brought down to Earth to try to help our advancement?
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02:16:15
It’s all fascinating.
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02:16:16
It is very fascinating because and anybody who’s Christian, like, that’s bullshit and blasphemy, and you don’t know the saloni. You’re right. But you gotta throw the human being filter into the equation always. Look, there’s some things about the human being filter that are really fascinating.
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02:16:34
Like, one of the things that, Wes Huff told us when he was on the podcast is explaining that the book the book of Isaiah from the Dead Sea Scrolls, which they didn’t even know existed. When they translated, they found out it is 1,000 years older than the book of Isaiah that was thought to be the oldest version of it, and they’re identical verbatim, word for word.
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02:16:59
So that’s where it gets crazy. Right? So there’s something about once it’s written down that the true devotees and as long as you don’t get some asshole rabbis aside, get that book of Isaiah out of there or get that book of Enoch out of there. There’s a few the we’re humans. The human cat shit filter gets in the way, and you get human interaction with this and then you lose some of the story.
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02:17:24
Like, fuck. What was the story, though?
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02:17:27
Yeah.
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02:17:27
This is my take on all of it. There was something that happened, meh. And we have this urge to deny that this something might have been some higher intelligence from somewhere else manipulating human genes. But we do it.
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02:17:46
Yeah.
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02:17:46
I went to see the dire wolves last month. Ai went to that? Insane. Insane.
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02:17:54
Arya they the same ones that are gonna bring back the wooly mammoth. Right?
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02:17:57
Yes. I went to see the fucking Game of Thrones dire wolves. They are so clearly not regular wolves. Yeah. It is ai and there’s always people that are saying, like, technically speaking, according to my academy, this is not a real dire wolf. Yeah. You’ve just manipulated a great wolf.
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02:18:16
Exasperated traits of the dire wolf in a great wolf.
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02:18:19
Correct. However, tell it to the dire wolf.
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02:18:21
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:18:22
That thing thinks it’s a dire wolf. It looks like a dire wolf. It’s gonna behave it’s behaving like a dire wolf. My point is we do that. We fuck with genes of animals all the time.
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02:18:33
Well, even you you don’t have to talk about it. Look at our own genes. Look at our genetic growth of our brain, and we try to go back and say it’s because we went to hunter gatherers, and all of a sudden we burned meat. And then because we burned meat, our GI tract shrunk, and our GI tract shrunk, and our protein was absorbed, and our brains were able to grow.
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02:18:48
It still doesn’t really account for how much our intelligence jumped and our brain capacity jumped.
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02:18:54
Over just a small amount of time historically. When you compare all the other animals on the planet, no no other animal experienced anything remotely ai the doubling of the human brain size. But we were already pretty fucking clever, pretty clever monkeys. You know, monkeys have little languages. They tell each other when hawks are ai. They scream.
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02:19:14
You know, they they’ve shown that some monkeys will trick other monkeys into getting away from the fruit. They’ll yell out that there’s an eagle, and then those monkeys run to get away from the eagle, and then that monkey runs and gets the fruit. Yeah. Sai they have a language. They have deception.
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02:19:29
Yeah.
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02:19:29
They’re clever little fuckers, but they ain’t shit compared to us. Yeah. You know, you go from monkey to Elon Musk sana you’re ai, what happened? Yeah. What happened? Yeah. Show me what you did. How’d you get here? How’d you get here? There’s no one has an answer. You sai, oh, it’s natural selection.
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02:19:47
It’s a random mutation, like, maybe. Or maybe that book of Enoch’s trying to tell you something. There’s so much Ezekiel’s trying to tell you something. Maybe maybe that wheel within a wheel where this thing is coming out of the sky and you can’t even understand what he’s seeing.
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02:20:04
How how come so many people have these just because I haven’t had that experience doesn’t mean that that’s not a real thing that’s happened over and over. There might be a reason why I haven’t had that experience. First of all, I have too much big of a platform and a big fucking mouth, and I’d probably ruin the whole party, but I wouldn’t even because no one would believe me.
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02:20:21
It would just be one more thing that you ridicule. And when you ridicule people for these experiences that you haven’t had yourself, you gotta ai like, what if they’re telling the truth?
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02:20:32
Did Gary get into, because it go back to, like, the telepathy tapes and the the story with these autistic nonverbal autistic children.
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02:20:40
I should say something about that though before we go any further. Oz Pearlman, who’s a mentalist, he’s very critical of that stuff, and he showed me what they’re doing. And one of the things that he said, he goes, no. No. No. These women are touching their sons while their sons are, like, moving the the the words around.
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02:20:54
They’re assisting. They’re helping them. He goes, this if a meh he goes, a scientist might not be able to see what they’re doing. He goes, but a mentalist most certainly can. And Oz Pearlman is fucking amazing at that shit.
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02:21:08
I mean, he did some tricks where I figured out how he did it. Jamie actually figured one of the things that he did
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out afterwards. I mean,
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02:21:15
don’t need to tell anybody. Yeah. We don’t need
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02:21:17
to tell anybody. We don’t need to tell anybody. I saw Jamie. Chris Ramsay was doing all this crazy, fucking amazing magician illusion shit, and Ai, like, fucking calling him out on everything he could figure out.
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02:21:27
Well, Jamie’s a little bit of a well, I’ll tell you something though. Me and Jamie, when we watched David Blaine, we were ai, what the fuck did he do? Like, what did he do? How did he do that? He was showing us card tricks off camera to to my young daughter at the time. We were baffled.
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02:21:43
Jamie was watching him. His sleeves were rolled up. Like, what did he do? Like, we watched it over and over and over again. I don’t know how the fuck he did it. Yeah. It was weird. Yeah. He’s weirdly good at that shit. Like, weirdly good. Yeah.
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02:21:56
Where it’s it’s quite it’s quite a mind fuck. But sai Oz Pearlman but he’s not doing real magic. He’s not a real sorcerer. Right? Yeah. This is the point.
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02:22:04
There’s tricks. And Oz was like, you you should not account for any of that evidence that they’re showing you. He goes, this is all, like, there’s a a nonverbal communication between the mother and the sana, but it involves touching. It involves, like, pointing and signaling.
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02:22:19
It’s not as simple as the kid just figured it out. And then he showed us a video of it, and we’re ai, oh, I thought it was like the kid was in another ram. No one was around him. They gave him the iPad. He knew what to write down because it was in his head because his mom had seen it. It’s not that simple.
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02:22:36
So maybe there’s some that he’s dismissing that you can’t dismiss.
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02:22:41
Gary do he breaks down a certain brain anomaly that seems to be consistent with UAP experiencers. Did he get into that?
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02:22:49
No. He did not.
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02:22:50
He’s done, like, these brain scans and and tests on military personnel who are trying to qualify for disability, and every single one of them have this brain anomaly. And his thing is, is the brain anomaly an antenna that makes you more per receptive or able to pick up on these things, or did the encounter itself create the anomaly?
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02:23:14
Oh, well, you gotta do a double ai, placebo controlled test sana have some kid wander through the desert for a couple of months, hopefully meh abducted. But that’s the other thing. They’re not abducting. They’re they’re, you know, they’re doing whatever the fuck they wanna do.
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02:23:26
They don’t really care about your agenda if they are a real thing, you know. And I don’t know that they are. I don’t know that these aren’t just psychotic dreams that people have. I don’t know. Because dreams are very realistic, and dreams are often uniform.
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02:23:39
Like, a lot of people have dreams of falling. A lot of people have dreams of breathing underwater. Does that mean you’re really breathing ai?
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02:23:44
I’m just gonna go logically and say there’s so many inhabitable planets now in the cosmos, and if any of those planets ever had a head start on life a few million years ahead of Earth, then that there’s a statistical likelihood that that life would have evolved into intelligent life over time. And and with a big enough head start, you assure the tech if you don’t destroy yourself. But what if the catch is if you don’t destroy yourself?
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02:24:14
And what if the test is, do does your society reach a level of consciousness that is nondestructive before you become an off planet species?
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02:24:24
Well, my fear is the only way to do that is through technology. My fear is that the only way to do that is to integrate with this great machine that we’re creating right now, artificial general super intelligence. And that we’re gonna either have to merge or perish, and that we’re gonna choose to merge.
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02:24:42
And one of the one of the things that’s probably going to happen to us is all of these things that we love, that we create with all of our imperfect human behavior. All those things are have to go bye bye. That’s my fear. That’s why the gray aliens all look uniform. They look all the same
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02:25:02
Ai mind.
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02:25:02
And they don’t use their lips. They they talk with their minds, and that’s probably the future of the human race. That’s probably why it’s there. When you see that iconic image from Close Encounters of the Third Time, there’s something about that that makes sense. Right? Because that goes, oh, I guess that’s where we’re going. Because it seems like where we’re going.
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02:25:20
If we go from, you know, ancient hominids covered in hair, short, fucking gnarled over and fighting off predators to some nerd who works at Google right now who’s deciding, you know, whether or not trans fucking activists who are protesting this or that should show up in your Google feed.
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02:25:41
Like Yeah.
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02:25:42
You know
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what I mean? Like, that’s Yeah. That’s where well, where is it going after that? What’s good? Ai think that’s part of what’s going on with, like, this confusion with gender and the fact that microplastics are killing everybody’s reproductive systems, killing everybody’s endocrine system, significant drop in testosterone from the nineteen seventies, significant increase in miscarriages.
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Like, we’re becoming non ai sexual We’re
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literally becoming demolition man. Do you remember the movie Demolition Man?
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Well, yeah.
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But we we were criticizing femininity.
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Yeah. And and at that time, it’s like greetings and salutations. Yeah. Ai, nobody has violence or anything.
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We’re criticizing normal femininity, especially, like, traditional wife roles, but we are celebrating women who assume roles in society of toxic men, which is CEOs. We’re celebrating a woman becoming more manly. We’re celebrating men becoming feminists. We’re celebrating men who, are wearing that fucking BDSM outfit that that shithead was wearing and it it’s ai he was posing with that outfit. I’m like, look at meh.
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02:26:48
I’m free. Yeah. This is how I behave, and I want hefty shots for all the babies. Oh my god. Like, we’re a society that’s lost its fucking way.
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Clearly, we’ve lost our way. And what better way to find our way than a little thing you slip on over your head and and everybody’s locked in, and everybody’s together in this. But who’s gonna control that fucking thing? It has to be decentralized. It has to be literally, like, connected to some sort of, a a ai mind blockchain.
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It’s the only way it’s gonna work. It’s never gonna work if you have a corporation like Google or Meta or any other corporation that that has censorship. Like, even these chatbots, ask chatbots about, like, racial statistics for homicides and things like that. They don’t wanna profile. They don’t wanna do that.
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They don’t wanna give you answers on things like that that are really inconvenient and that people don’t like.
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02:27:41
You saw that crazy fucking software they that Israeli counter surveillance software they just launched last week after that shooting? That’s just pretty scary.
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02:27:50
What what are you talking about?
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There’s a software that they’re launching that tracks all the tweets. Palantir? Is that what you’re talking about? Everything that people are messaging and DMing. The the way I understand it and the way they were saying it is they were celebrating it as a good thing, but I’m thinking anybody in any chatroom or any of that, it’s starting to get, like, very minority report.
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So every
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chat room
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If you’re saying something that could be crazy or in a DM or in a chat room or anywhere on the Internet or in in Instagram or in a private chat, supposedly, this is combing all of the Internet, social media, everything to begin to assess mental health and predict analytics of seeing, like, if you could be a threat. And ai you would have been able to yeah. That’s why I’m like, then what the fuck are we headed towards?
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It’s gonna be like the statistical algorithm says that you have a seventy percent chance of committing a violent crime today. You’re arrested.
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02:28:41
And, again, who’s in control of that? The slippery guy. The guy with the flick. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, Peter Thiel’s a part of all that. But this is not a knock on Peter Thiel. No human should have the ability to have access to that information and decide who gets it and who doesn’t. Yeah.
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02:28:56
No no human should be able to decide whether or not you can connect to the hive mind of the entire human race and use a telepathic language. Israeli military creating chat GPT like tool using vast collection of Palestinian surveillance data.
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And they’re supposedly gonna hold this power here.
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Is that what they’re talking about?
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I don’t it doesn’t say that.
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I don’t think it’s power tier because what I heard is it’s an Israeli backed software system.
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Well, we should be real clear then because I feel like I was talking about Palantir earlier, and we’re gonna get sued. So this is a different thing. Israeli ram military surveillance agencies use a vast collection of intercepted Palestinian communications to build a powerful artificial intelligence tool similar to chat GPT that it hopes will transform its spying capabilities.
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02:29:43
Wow. Okay. According to sources familiar with the project, Unibegain building the model to create a sophisticated chatbot like tool capable of answering questions about people. It is monitoring and providing insights into the massive volumes of surveillance data that it collects. So that’s what it’s doing.
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And I swear there was an article after that shooting that they’re gonna start using it and rolling it out here to proactively protect us against potential threats. And I was like, that shit’s not good. That sounds terrifying.
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And I guarantee they’re not gonna say a peep about SSRIs. How about that? Oh, yeah. It brings it all back to
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Yeah.
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Disconnection. I bet they won’t bring that part up.
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Yeah. Nope. So you got all your surveillance.
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Did you notice anything? What did you did you guys notice anything? You noticed how Oh, okay. Trump administration is silently employing Palantir to gather personal data of each Meh, raising privacy data misuse concerns. So this is a different thing. So what is it doing? So this is totally different than the Israeli thing. Right?
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Okay. Yeah. Okay. I guess Ai got a mix.
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No worries. But they’re both kinda creepy. Gather personal data of American citizens from various federal agencies, sparking concerns over privacy sana potential misuse of personal data. So what is it doing? How is it doing this?
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Oh, I don’t know.
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Does it say No.
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It’s not gonna tell you how it’s doing.
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Doesn’t say how it works? No. Capabilities, data organization, and analysis could potentially enable the merging of information various agencies, thereby creating detailed profiles of American citizens. The Trump administration profiles curated by who? Right?
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It says citizen data from the government including bank accounts. Go back to that. Did you see that? It says bank accounts.
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God. Where where was it? Ai, guys, guys. Data disability. Who signed off on this? Is this already implemented? I’ll say, okay. Access extensive citizen data from the government databases, including bank details, student debt, medical claims, claims, and disability status. Oh, you might be faking your disability, Brigham.
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You might have to come knock on your door. We don’t like your tweets. Oh, by the way, Ram Linehan, the guy who was on the podcast, he got arrested when he went back to The UK. The guy who was on the podcast who was a beloved comedy writer from The UK who was talking about the trans issue and how insane it is, lost everything, lost his career, like, getting sued constantly, went went back to The UK, and they arrested him.
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They had they meh armed police, met him at the airport and arrested him for tweets, for three tweets. If you go to my my Twitter, I retweeted it. I retweeted the story. Will you, go to that?
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That’s scary because we were headed that way. I mean, we were fucking headed that way.
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02:32:37
Yeah. 100%, and we still could be. You know? Yeah. And we still could be. And when people say, oh, you voted for fascism. No. No. I I don’t think anybody should be in control of this country. Okay? Any one person. But believe meh, I don’t. I don’t think anybody’s good at it. Mhmm.
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02:32:52
But I don’t think you should let the same party that was propping up a dead man and was secretly doing shit behind the scenes like using AutoPen to sign off on all kinds of executive orders that he didn’t even fucking know what the details of were, which is explained we had that conversation with Mike Johnson.
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02:33:08
He literally didn’t remember signing it or thought it was something other than what it was. I’m not in favor of keeping that. That’s all it is, folks. And I am in favor of RF Kennedy. And I think a lot of the stuff Trump believes in, like making America a robust place where manufacturing booms, bring back American jobs arya positive. Yeah.
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I don’t like the coin. I don’t like the Trump coin. I think that’s fucking crazy. That’s a crazy move. But is it illegal? I don’t know. Yeah.
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Are they all corrupt? I think they are. Graham Linehan has been arrested at Heathrow by five police, five armed police officers. His crime was these three posts. Look at these three posts. So, click on it, and we’ll, we’ll get to see.
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This is what he says is that if a trans identified male is in a female only space, he is committing a violent abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls. Comedy writer, also his opinion. Can’t have that in The UK. So this one says, a photo you can smell, and it’s all these people that are protesting. I don’t know what the context of this is.
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And the other one is, I hate them. Misogynists and homophobes. Fuck them. So these three tweets are a problem. So the idea of misogynists and homophobes, you go, wait a minute. No. No. No.
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These are people that are LBDG t cube two plus as, I know a lot of gay people that think that the trans movement is homophobic because it’s saying, you’re not gay, you’re a woman. And you’re attracted to men, but you’re a woman. Well, if you just leave those people alone and don’t cut their dick off, they most likely will be gay.
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And there’s data to show that. So a lot of gay people, including Tim Dillon, think of this movement as being homophobic. I know that’s so counterintuitive for other people. The idea of it being misogynistic. Well, how is it misogynistic? Well, what better way to harm women than to allow male predators to just tell you they’re a woman?
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Mhmm. I’m not a wolf. I’m a grandma. Put on the bonnet, and now you’re in the chicken coop. It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous.
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And to say that you’re protecting women, including trans women, it’s ai, that’s a new thing. That’s a new thing that you invented without taking into account perverts. You didn’t take them into account at all. You didn’t take into account sex offenders and psychopaths and mentally ill people. You just said all trans women are women.
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Well, you just opened up the door and gave a fucking free pass to psychos to wear a dress. And if you don’t wanna admit that, that’s misogynistic because you’re not really protecting women. Because you think you by protect well, if we have to protect all women, because trans women are women. No. No. No. No. No. That’s a man. Yeah.
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That’s a man, and you’re using
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words using the whole world sound
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that you make with your mouth to distort biological reality. And we’re and the the the ai is that if you don’t do that, then you’re non empathetic. Well, that’s crazy talk. That’s crazy. And so that tweet is correct. It but while being a good person
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Did he have to stay in jail or they let him go?
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02:36:27
Bro, I don’t know, meh. But he had he had to go to the hospital because his blood pressure spiked. He went fucking crazy. He’s a good guy, man. He’s a sweetheart of a guy and always super successful in The UK. And he’s been attacked because a lot of these people that are, you know, trans identified, a lot of these people, they have a lot of mental health issues.
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02:36:45
And they’ve also been people that have been fucked over by ai system, including that last school shooter who said that they were upset that they got tricked into becoming ram. And they wanted to cut their hair off. They have all this hair. They wanted to cut it off, but they did didn’t wanna give anyone the satisfaction of, like, showing that they were right, that you weren’t really a woman.
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It’s such a weird topic because it’s such a small percentage of of society, but it occupies so much bandwidth Well, this is in the public forums.
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I think this is pure evidence that our our interactions are being co opted. And it’s it’s great evidence that a lot this is the success of the programs that, like, Yuri Bezbanov talked about in the nineteen eighties, where they were talking about demoralization. But the goal wasn’t the Russian goal in terms of what they were doing to America wasn’t, you know, let’s make sure that Donald Trump wins or let’s make sure that Hillary Clinton wins.
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That was not the goal. The goal is to make people lose faith
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Mhmm.
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In all of these institutions, lose faith completely, demoralize ai, demoralize them, Keep them at each other’s back. Convince them all that they’re racists and that they’re homophobes and they’re transphobes. They’re this and they’re that, and they’re Nazis and this. Keep them at each other’s throats.
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That’s why this thing has become sai but the problem is then kids get caught up in it because it becomes a part of the zeitgeist. It becomes a part of the the culture. You know? Kids wear bell bottoms. Kids do this. I’m non binary. Like, they just jump in.
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02:38:13
They jump in because they wanna be a part of a group. They jump in because they wanna be noticed, and then they get rewarded. You’re amazing. You’re amazing. No No one ever told them they’re amazing before. Next thing you know, they’re getting hormones. Next thing you know, they’re on this road.
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02:38:25
And maybe they were autistic, and maybe they did they have they’re just weird with social interactions. And you’re getting you’re tricking kids. That’s a part of this. It doesn’t it doesn’t mean that there haven’t historically been people that feel like they’re in the wrong body. I’m sure there have been. That is not this.
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02:38:41
This is this this is a giant thing that’s happening, and I think it’s being manipulated. And I think a lot of it is it’s social media manipulation where a bunch of these people aren’t even real people, and they’re the most vocal and the most outrageous about it. And they’re organized. You go to these these rallies. Why does everybody have the same sign? Where’d you get your sign? Mhmm. Who who made these signs?
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Why are they so good? Who’s who’s the sign guy?
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I do know all the counterintelligence stuff is that, you know, China and a lot of these nations play the long game. Right? They’re in it for sai twenty year run. It’s not they’re not trying A
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02:39:14
hundred year run. Yeah. It’s like What’s the best way to do that? Demoralize America.
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Yeah.
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02:39:18
What’s the best way to do that? Like, pay off all these fucking doctors. Prescribe as much medication as possible. We have a lot of money in the pharmaceutical drug companies. Anyway, this way we profit. Let’s keep the ball rolling. Let’s pay off all these politicians. Let’s just be as demonic as possible and try to ruin this amazing experiment in self democracy.
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Scary.
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02:39:41
Yeah. It’s a battle. This amazing experiment in self government that’s really never been tried before, like, we’re doing it. It’s a new thing, you know. And this new thing also coincides with this other new thing. And this other new thing is the Internet. And the Internet is awesome and scary, and it’s being used by scumbags and brilliant people.
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02:40:00
Everyone is all swimming around in this sea of ideas, and at least according to some people, 80% of
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it is bots. That part’s nuts.
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That part’s nuts.
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Well, then with chat with with large language model, I keep saying chat with any large language model, I mean, man, when you interact with them Mhmm. And it even shows up on my feeds. Sai see, you know, they know how to target us. They know, like, every they know how to capture my attention.
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And it’s ai now I’m I showed Amanda a video the other day, and she’s like, oh, that’s AI. And I had to do, like, a double take because I was kinda, like, half paying attention.
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Yeah.
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But it was a 100% all AI generated. I’m like, damn, man. Yeah. Like, what are we gonna do in another eighteen months? Like, you’re not gonna know what’s real.
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You’re not gonna have any idea.
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I see them doing ads for you all the fucking time shows up on my feed. I know. You, Huberman?
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I get people to call me on Instagram.
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Ai know it was bullshit is because it’s I know you’re not advertising for that, and I know Huberman’s not advertising for that. And I’m like, I don’t even know how they can legally get away with it. I mean, I think they get hammered.
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But We we go after them, and we have them take them down, but they sometimes they don’t listen.
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They took one of our podcast. It showed up on YouTube. It was one of our podcast. I don’t even remember what you were saying, but it was you breaking down something to do with WasteWell and how it’s helped you, but it wasn’t WasteWell. They plug in their, like, product.
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Of course.
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And I’m like, oh, these motherfuckers.
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These motherfuckers, man. They do it with everything. They do it with some sleep apnea mouthpiece. They do it with all kinds of shit, man. They just they this like, people different rappers will have me saying that they’re the best rapper ever. And they put it up on TikTok because to try to get some clout. It’s wild, man. We’re in a wild tyler.
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02:41:43
But, again, it’s we’re experiencing great change, and it’s not it doesn’t go easy. And that’s why there’s so much chaos. But you can’t lose your humanity in all of these folks. This is this is the trap, and this is the the trap that’s being accentuated by social media. This, tribal trap of thinking that, the other side is evil and to to combat them, you have to be evil. And Mhmm.
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And you have to be super mean and shitty because it’s justified because those people are fascists. So those people are Nazis, like, that’s sai trap. It’s all a trap.
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02:42:19
I can tell you a 100% industry. I witnessed it when I testified at the federal and the state level. Industry is attempting to separate and divide us, to turn things into issues that aren’t anywhere related.
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02:42:32
Right.
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This is about racism. This is about sexism. This is it’s all a ploy to divide and conquer. Because if we’re fighting each other, we’re not united, and we can’t fight industry. But the real evil empire is all these people pulling the strings and ram agendas that are killing millions of Americans every year.
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02:42:51
Yes. And they’re doing it for profit, and that is probably in the Bible. That’s prop that’s probably demonic. It’s I mean, that the idea of what demonic thoughts are, what what are evil thoughts. I think there’s this constant battle because that’s the only way you get better.
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02:43:10
That’s what I think. I think on a macro level, like, when when you when you just thinking about life. Right? How do you get strong? You get strong by working out. So you have to push yourself to so you’re weak. Like, you can’t do another push up.
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02:43:23
And that’s how you get strong at at doing push ups. It’s the only way. The only way to get really good is to combat evil. You don’t just get good. Yeah. Like, there’s no reason to be good. Like, it doesn’t matter. Like, everybody’s good. Everybody’s fine. Life is boring as fuck.
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02:43:38
You have to have some evil, and you have evil so that you realize that good is so much better. It’s a so much better choice. But the choice is not just in, like, on a societal level. This the choice is you on an individual. And there’s moments in your life where you can decide whether you’re gonna be evil or you’re gonna be good.
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02:43:58
Or maybe you ai, like, hey, what I did, I don’t like. I know I feel evil. I feel like I shouldn’t have done that. And then you have to realize, like, that’s a part of growth. It’s a connect this it’s a vatsal.
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02:44:08
And this battle is what we’re experiencing right now, but my fear is that there’s a lot of us that are unaware of the the the actual full impact of all of these other factors that aren’t really people. These bots and corporations and propaganda and how they’re meh. Like, that fat guy arguing with you on that video Yeah. That’s a gaslighting motherfucker.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don’t listen to you if you look like that if you’re telling me about health.
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Yeah.
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Period. Like, meh someone who looks like Huberman. Yeah.
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Get
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someone who looks like he can fight in the UFC tomorrow. Yeah. Right? That I’ll listen to that guy because he’s Yeah.
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02:44:52
It’s like you don’t eat a meal from a skinny chef. Like, you know, like, the things people sai. It’s ai, if you have an obese doctor who’s not taking care of themselves, it it’s not an attack on obesity. It’s hard for me to trust your decision making.
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Hold on, though. Philip Franklin Lee is thin. And he’s one of the best fucking chefs alive.
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Yeah. Yeah. That’s true. Philip broke the mold.
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He broke that mold. But he had to get thin. He got to get healthy.
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We helped him. I know he did. We helped him lose his shit load of weight. Ai think he’s lost 20 pounds, but then also we uncovered a bunch of toxins in his system. Mhmm. He posted about it the other day.
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Yeah.
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And he’s like, this is from when I started to now. Yeah. And you can see it in his blood work. All of these different contaminants are now at, like, physiological normal levels where they were at spiked levels before. Ai, microplastics is one of them.
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02:45:37
Yeah. Microplastics are a big one. And the problem is it goes into your brain. Do you know most people have, like, a plastic fork, ai, a fucking picnic fork?
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Yeah.
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Sized amount of microplastics.
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Of our brain by weight is microplastics now. That’s insane. Yeah. We’re ai, what’s causing depression? Ai, I don’t know. It could be this or this or this or this.
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02:45:58
So this goes back to what I was saying is gonna happen to us. If I was I mean, obviously, I gotta say it, but I I’ve already said it, but I just gotta say it sai you know I’m not Peter Thiel. I love us. I love humans. I love Peter Thiel. He’s a nice guy. Ai interactions with him. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know if he’s evil.
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02:46:14
I don’t think he is. I think all of these factors that are destroying our endocrine system, making us less sexual, all these confusions, ai and culture and chaos and war, all of it is leading us to this leap that the only way to escape all this awful stuff that’s on this side is to transcend.
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02:46:39
And you transcend by integrating with whatever the fuck we’re creating right now. This this Manhattan project that’s going on right now between OpenAI and Grok and did then they’re fucking sabotaging each other and stealing data. Do you hear about that guy that left Grok, and he he downloaded the entire Grok database and then fucking sold it to chat GPT? No. Find that.
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02:47:04
So yeah. Wait. Can we pause for a second?
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You gotta pee? Yeah.
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I’ve been holding. I’ve been chugging water.
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Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Pee and come back.
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Alright.
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We’ll find that. Alright. The sweet relief of pee. But so that’s what I think is happening to us. I think we’re becoming some new thing. And I think it’s, gonna happen way quicker than we’d like it to be. While no engineer sold Grock to OpenAI, Elon Musk AI sued a former engineer, try saying that name, for allegedly stealing Grok’s secrets before leaving ai to join OpenAI.
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02:47:36
So Elon tweeted that he downloaded XAI accuses Lee of downloading a large amount of confidential information and the full code base for Grok shortly before and after his resignation. Internal investigations revealed that Lee allegedly uploaded the stolen code database to OpenAI servers. So that they’re they’re they’re doing that.
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02:48:00
And then also, I think OpenAI had a situation when they they believe that Chinese, some Chinese, scientists had access to their vatsal. Like, something happened where there was some sort of a a breach of security, and they’re pretty sure that China got access to all the shut stuff that they’re doing.
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02:48:22
So see if you can find that story. Because I just butchered that.
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All of the AI said
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02:48:27
Of course, doing that. Of course, they’re doing that. Why would they not do that? If they’ve done that with everything else, why would they not do that? OpenAI takes down chat g p t accounts linked to state backed hacking and disinformation. State backed threat actors from a handful of countries are now using ChatGPT for illicit purposes ranging from malware refinement to employment scams and social media disinformation campaigns, OpenAI said this week.
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02:48:50
Jesus Christ. Of course. Of course, they’re using Chat GPG to scam people. Of course.
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I just look at all the ways it’s gonna impact society ram jobs and everything. We’re gonna live in the craziest of times.
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02:49:04
Go back to the look at it stirring the social media pot. OpenAI said it banned dozens of accounts that saw using ChatGPT to bulk generate social media posts consistent with the activity of a a covert influence campaign or operation. Meh of the China based accounts issued prompts in Chinese and sought responses in English on a variety of topics, including the shutdown of USAID, various ai of divisive topics within US political discourse, backlash towards Taiwan, Pakistani activist, I don’t know how to say that name, who has publicly criticized China’s investments in Balochistan.
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Would you even if you’ve ever thought that was a real country? That seems like Pakistan? That sounds like something that Game of Thrones guy would write down. The account sought to create social media comments in English, Chinese, and Urdu that were found being posted on TikTok, x, Reddit, Facebook, and other social media platforms. Yeah.
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This is the point. Ai, this we know that this has been going on. Right? We know that China has Ai. Russia has AI. We have competing there’s Meta AI.
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There’s Google Gemini. There’s Grok, which is x AI. There’s ChatGPT, which is OpenAI. There’s a ton of them. There’s perplexity.
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There’s a whole bunch of different AIs that are constantly, right now, in competition Yeah. To see who creates Ai. Ai Yeah. To see who creates God.
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Well, in the so what you were saying earlier about the evolution of humanity and the direction we’re headed, AI and that component, and there’s that technological component, but there’s also all the shit we’re unlocking with CRISPR Yes. And the direction we’re headed. And we can now edit your genes.
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And I could edit your genes with CRISPR to change sai, essentially, we would take a a a male sperm, a female egg. We create that a clone, and we literally replicate that clone multiple times down the chain. And we can now edit in roughly 20 points of IQ. So through CRISPR, you can edit somebody’s intelligence by 20 IQ points. That’s the difference between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Albert Einstein.
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Now what if you do that three, four, five generations down?
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You’re being so kind to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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You would be able to create superhumans. Yeah. I don’t know. But that’s what it that’s what it said in, what is it, the gene editing. I don’t remember which gene editing.
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02:51:31
Is Arya a genius?
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No. No. The difference the the big chunk, though, is just 20 IQ points to be Albert Einstein.
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02:51:37
Right. But what’s Albert at?
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I don’t even know. This is this is in, 50. Hacking Darwin. The book Hacking Darwin explains all this and the direction we’re headed and how you would be able to essentially and China’s already doing this.
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02:51:50
100%. They’re already
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doing it. The guy went
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to jail. He said, whoops.
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02:51:53
I didn’t mean to do that. And they’re
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02:51:54
They said they were inoculating the kids
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from super intelligent humans.
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They were saying they were inoculating them from HIV. Like, who’s getting HIV? Shut the fuck up, bitch. Yeah. And they just accidentally got smarter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so then the problem becomes, go back to, like, ADHD in schools and stuff in the eighties. When everyone starts creating, you know, little, superhumans, and everyone’s gonna look back, almost back to demolition man, what we’re talking about. You’re you don’t you create a baby in a test tube because you can edit out all the gene defects and all the issues in your genetics and optimize that child’s success at living a healthy happy life
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02:52:31
And look at the
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ai disease. But if we just add a little spice here, we can make them twice as smart.
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02:52:37
Of course.
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And then everyone’s gonna do that. Of course. And then And if you don’t, China does. Russia does. So then where does America have to do? We have to counterpunch.
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02:52:46
Well, the thing is they’re probably already doing it. And the thing is, like, China is so advanced with so many different technologies right now that most most people are just not aware. They’re not aware. And someone was describing vatsal, about how, god, I wish I meh the podcast it was on, but this guy was, talking about how essentially what what goes on in China is, say, if they want to get into, solar panels, if, like, they start producing solar panels, the government will get involved and say, we want you guys to make the most awesome solar panels.
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And then they have this shah tank of people competing to see who develops the best solar panel company, and only the best ones are gonna survive. And it’s all funded by
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the idea.
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It’s a very smart idea. And through that, they’ve developed the best drones, definitely the best electric cars. Out of nowhere, China has the best electric cars, like, by a tyler, Like, by a country mile, dude. There’s nothing even in America even if you have, like, one of those,
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But we got the best American muscle cars.
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02:53:50
We definitely do. But that’s a different thing. Right? But when it comes to technological innovation, they’re way ahead of us. So if they’re ahead of us with that, if they run the same game on AI while we’re all battling it out with each other and stealing each other’s data, they’re probably running that same game over there.
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02:54:08
And if they really did steal all the chat GPT database, did they did they did China have access to chat GPT to, OpenAI’s database? Was it speculated that there was some sort of a breach?
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What what came when I typed in breach and with those words, that’s what came up as what I showed you. So something else a different story would be a different story.
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02:54:31
Ai I read I was reading too that China’s beating us in the arms race of energy infrastructure to be able to actually implement this level of AI.
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02:54:40
Not only that, they’re running around on AI talking about the problem of climate change, and we need to do this, we need to do that. Well, they’re making fucking shitloads of coal factories in China. You gotta it looks like they’re playing this multilevel game, and they’re using all of our cultural hot speak, all the things that we like to argue about, gay marriage and this and that and prayer in schools.
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02:55:05
And you think it’s organic. You think people are really fighting in the street for all these things, but it’s not. It’s other countries want us doing this, including our own country. Yeah. One of the wild things that, representative Luna said when she was here one one of the wild things shah sai, there’s a lot of problems they don’t wanna solve sai that they could fundraise against them.
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02:55:29
Wow. And I was like, that is so dark, and I believe it. I never thought about it that way, but I believe it. It makes sense. I think marijuana legalization is one of those. I think it’s one of those.
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I think there’s there’s there’s a few of those things out there that, you know, it’s dark, but I think it’s true. I think they don’t want solutions. They wanna keep their job.
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02:55:54
The big the biggest thing that I think about is Ai see just in my sector of health care and compounding, how much AI is going to impact workplace and infrastructure and and just reality.
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02:56:10
Yeah.
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Like, at at our arya, you know, we have almost 300 people when we were looking at this software. I needed to expand and hire more people. I needed 200 people. We can’t hire fast enough. And I’m looking at this, and we’re going, if we implement this AI, we can reallocate 200 people and not have to go hire 200 people, and then we just get to promote the people who are already with us.
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But at what point does the AI just get to a point where it’s doing all of our jobs? Like, all of our jobs, and it will. Even in his own, blog he’s talking about eight years ago how we don’t understand that this is going to replace almost all jobs in everywhere in the world.
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02:56:51
Who’s that dude? His ai of a CEO host? Do you know that?
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02:56:54
Oh, yeah. I know who you’re talking about. I don’t know his name. But What
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is his name, James?
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The British ai?
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Yeah. Graham Metzinger.
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02:57:01
No. No. No.
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Diary of the studio.
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And candidly, it does it better.
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Steven Bartlett.
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02:57:09
Steven Bartlett. So he was having a conversation with someone where he was saying that one of his friends, he knows someone who’s ai a AI ai. And privately, he he talks very different than he does publicly. And publicly, he’s talking about, oh, it’s gonna be amazing. You know, it’s gonna be and but in private, he’s like, this is gonna be crazy, and no one’s ready for it.
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Mhmm.
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And that’s what I think. I agree.
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I meh, then the humanoid robots. Are you watching all that? Because they’re evolving quick.
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02:57:39
That’s gonna be interesting, but I think that’s a side project. That’s that’s that’s ai a it’s a distraction. The the the real thing is gonna be non physical. The real thing is gonna be this bizarre connection that we have to this ultimate intelligence that’s gonna be pumped straight into your dome.
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02:57:54
You’re not gonna wanna fuck that robot when you’re when you’re literally plugged into the matrix. Like, the physical, like, sex robot that everybody dreams of, there’s gonna be a few losers, like, live in the hills and, you know, wear overalls and fucking kill squirrels all day, and then they have this sex robot that come home and fuck.
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02:58:13
Maybe. I think most people are gonna integrate, and it’s gonna be just like cell phones. Like, most people you know, I know a lot of people, like, I don’t even carry your cell phone. I fucking
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02:58:22
I think you’re saying that, and you have one of the most interesting colorful lives. Imagine the person who’s just fucking grinding and showing up to their job every day that they hate, and and they can escape. Like, they they already are escaping in these virtual worlds. Like, even kids, like, it’s different with kid. I I I like, I’ve watched younger kids.
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Now they hang out with their friends in, like, online. Like, they don’t go, like, have to ride over like, we rode bikes over to our friends’ houses and stuff. They would all hang out and play whatever that roadblocks or whatever it is with their friends Yep. Yep. And chat rooms.
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But, hey, I used to do that. I used to get online and and play my friends on Quake. They were friends I was only friends with online. Yeah. Yeah. But it’s fun. You know, and when right now, you know, you’re dealing with just looking at a screen. When you’re actually in the game, then things are gonna get real weird. Things are gonna get so fucking strange.
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Because already, these, like, meh glasses, those fucking things that you put on, what are what are the the Oculus system? What is it called, Jamie? What does meta call it? What’s on? What their their their latest and greatest ai reality? The virtual reality headset. Sorry.
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Meh Quest.
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Meta Quest. Dude, pretty fucking incredible. Pretty fun. Yeah. Pretty ai, you know. And once they figure out haptic feedback, like, legitimate haptic feedback, especially if if there’s some sort of an interface, if it doesn’t have to be even installed, it was something that just clamps to your forehead and gets a reading on your brain the same way ai like when you look at your phone, it opens up because it you do that stupid thing, the face ID.
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Where you, like, program the image of your phone on an ai. It just recognizes you. Oh, hello, Brigham. Like, it knows your brain signals, and it’s, like, close your eyes and count back from ten, nine Yeah. Eight, and then you see the whole consciousness speak down.
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03:00:14
And now all of a sudden, you’re in a warehouse. Choose your armor. Like, fuck. Yeah. And you put an armor on.
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03:00:21
It’s Black Mirror. We’re gonna be living in
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03:00:24
Black Mirror. What the weapons do, and, what what zombies are the most dangerous. You’re like, okay. Okay. And then they just fucking open it.
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03:00:34
Does sound fun as long as we don’t don’t all, you know, die.
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03:00:37
It’s gonna be very fun, but the there’s always gonna be some cut that’s controlling the entire system. And this is why you have to have everything that it’s it’s gotta be decentralized. Everything’s gotta be like a blockchain. It’s gotta be like Bitcoin. It has to be like that. It can’t it can’t be there’s a group once it gets to this insanely potent computing power where it’s a life form Mhmm.
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03:01:02
You can’t have anybody in
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control of it. People think of the addiction and the dopamine response to social media
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03:01:08
Yeah.
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03:01:09
And multiply that Times ability.
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03:01:11
Yeah. Ai billions. I mean,
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you’re we’re fucked.
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You’re fucked. Because regular life like, if you’re a fucking if you’re working at a deli, you know, you’re you could just make a tuna fish sandwiches and hang out with the boys and, you
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know Hanging with the boys.
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And you get out of there, and you’re a knight. You’re a ai. Yeah. And you’re you’re you’re battling with demons, and you’re you’re fucking riding a horse in Game of Thrones. Like, really? Like, that’s totally possible. Yeah. It’s not even that far away.
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03:01:42
Because what you can see visually right now when they do these these video games that that are available today, The Unreal Engine is so good, dude. It’s so good that all it would have to do is be virtual and then figure out how to emulate movement
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03:01:58
Mhmm.
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And how to get you to feel like you’re moving. And that’s probably just manipulating some part of your brain that it scans out. It probably figures out what, you know, maybe you have to shave your head.
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03:02:09
All this stuff because even Elon on here, he was talking about how we can help you see in infrared. Yeah. Like, through this technology, we can create the impulse signals or whatever in the brain that allow you to see in infrared.
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03:02:22
Did you see those night vision contact lenses they’ve created? No. Ai. They’ve created night vision contact lenses.
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03:02:30
Yeah.
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03:02:30
See you ai that, Jim.
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Yeah. I probably looked before, but I’m trying
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Fuck in bananas. Contacts. Put them in, and now you’re a wolf.
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03:02:38
But then the same thing we’re talking about with CRISPR and gene editing Right. It’s gonna be the same thing when everyone has an implant, and I can download jujitsu in my brain. You’re at a disadvantage if you don’t have the implant. Well, not only that. How can you compete?
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03:02:52
You can’t. You’re gonna have to join. These contact lenses give people infrared vision even with their ai shah. With their fucking eyes shut. That’s nuts. New way of seeing infrared light without the need for chunky night vision goggles. Researchers would be the first contact lenses to convey infrared vision.
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03:03:11
And the devices work even when people have their eyes closed. Holy fuck, dude. Now imagine when that’s if you’re blind and they say, Brig, we can actually give you eyesight, but you’re gonna have, like, super eyesight. Yeah. Like, your eyesight will be way so people are eventually gonna get their eyeballs plucked out and, like, I’m mind I’m tired of wearing Reagars. Yeah.
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03:03:32
I’m gonna go in and get the new ai. Yeah. And you’re gonna put on these Monsanto ai eyeballs. These look at your eyebrows. Ai mean, they even said you
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03:03:43
would be able to have eagle eye mode, and he was breaking all that down where you could see vatsal high resolution at a distance. Yeah. Geothermal, ai, you you I
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don’t think you could stop it. And this is the thing about people. Oh, god. You’re so cynical. I’m not. I’m not. I love people. I love people, and I love life. Yeah. I think this has happened whether we like it or not, and I don’t necessarily know that it’s a bad thing.
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03:04:07
I think Jay, I don’t know if that’s true, but James Cameron, is that a fake tweet? I reposted it because Ai dumbass. But it was James Cameron said Ai warned you guys thirty years ago, and I reposted that. It it was all over media. So I’m like,
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I don’t know if it’s really not, but
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it’s funny.
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03:04:23
He’s a clever guy. He probably did post that. He’s right. So was the you know, the really fucking scary thing? You know who’s right? The fucking Unabomber was right. That was the Unabomber’s whole manifesto. It was that technology is gonna kill the human race.
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He said that, but just not in a tweet.
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I warned you guys in 1984.
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He didn’t listen. Sure. Look. I mean, you’ve got
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03:04:44
Yeah. That’s nuts. That’s even better.
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03:04:46
Have you seen the new alien on Hulu?
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03:04:48
I haven’t watched it yet. Ai on episode two.
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03:04:50
Think about that too. You have a physical avatar. Right? You’re terminally ill. What if we can take your consciousness and put it into a body? Or there’s not even a there’s just ai a, I don’t even, a humanoid biologic thing
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03:05:02
Yeah.
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03:05:02
Which is what And it has to be full grown even though you’re a child Yes.
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03:05:06
Because it doesn’t grow. It’s weird.
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03:05:07
I like the angle they took. I thought it was really good.
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03:05:10
And it brings the aliens back to my favorite kind of aliens, which you don’t see a lot of them, and they’re scary as fuck, and they’re really clever. The problem with James Cameron’s version of aliens is now all of a sudden they’re easy to shoot, and everyone’s just gunning them down. You’re killing tons of them. Yeah.
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03:05:23
The first alien was hiding all the time. Like, you didn’t see until it wanted to be seen.
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Yeah. Then you go into the den and she’s literally just planting eggs in everyone.
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She’s a dumbass. Yeah. Yeah. The the the first one was, like, creepier. Yeah. It was it was it was a a hunting alien. It was ai going after people and hunting them.
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03:05:44
And the other one’s Prometheus that plays into everything we’re talking about. Mhmm. People hated Prometheus or a lot of people, but I liked it.
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I liked it.
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When he literally asked his creator, the guy who invented the humanoid robot, and he asked him, what makes you more important than me? And he said, because you will ai, you will wither away, you will do all these things, but I will be here, and I won’t lose my consciousness.
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03:06:07
I won’t lose my all this stuff. He’s, like, he’s gaining, like, consciousness in the moment, and he’s asking. And that’s the shit where it’s ai, dude. Yeah. Like, we keep making things smarter and smarter and smarter. What is consciousness? We don’t even know what it is.
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03:06:22
Yeah. Well, that’s the interesting thing about thing about these movies, like, the alien movies in particular, especially the television show. Because the television show different than the movies, adopted a nineteen seventies framework for technology in 2120. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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03:06:39
So it’s a shitty little green screen. Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah.
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Everything’s shitty. The screens are shitty. The the, like, the the televisions, they’re ai regular old school TVs that you have to slap to get to work. It’s weird. So they have, like, this weird and then there’s there’s the robot thing. Mhmm. You know, the the robot guy who’s in every one of them, like the like, in synthetic robot. Yeah. Why why not just send all synthetic robot?
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03:07:02
Why do you have any people on this fucking thing? You got synthetic robots that don’t die. You have aliens out there.
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03:07:07
Well, then you go back to, like, what a lot of the UAP whistleblowers are saying that because I’ve gotten to meet a lot of these guys too, and they start saying that grays are synthetic Yeah. Biologics that are almost ai hive mind avatars. And again, I’m not saying I believe it.
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03:07:23
I’m not I’m just saying it’s interesting, and, like, a lot of the stuff that’s been in folklore forever now starts to make more and more, like, theoretical framework sense for why and how you would navigate some new ai.
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03:07:38
Especially And
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why you’d leave bodies and not give a shit. Yeah. If there’s any truth to any of it.
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If there’s any but that’s the problem. We’re both saying if because neither one of us have seen an alien, unfortunately,
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03:07:52
you know. But I’ve talked to enough really smart people that you start going, man. And I know There’s probably just trying to get Jamie to chime ai. He’s always
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03:08:00
Jamie goes back and forth with it just like I do. We have conversations about it all the time. Don’t you go but where are you at right now? Oh, I don’t
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know. This week, it’s probably mostly bullshit, but I I’m trying to I I’m not tracking it this week early, to be honest with you.
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03:08:17
But we we both go back. You would agree with that? We both go back?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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I go back and forth. Because but it’s mainly if I really self diagnose, it’s ego. I get frustrated, and I go, it’s all bullshit if it was real. But there is a lot of kinks in the armor. And if just statistically, I’m not saying that the little green men are visiting, but there’s statistically, like, a high probability that there’s intelligent life out there.
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03:08:43
And then statistically, did that life have a head start, and did it reach intelligent life?
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03:08:47
Right. And did it escape whatever the problems are with natural disasters that we experience? Because one of the thing if there is a reset in our society, it’s usually because of an asteroid impact or a super volcano blows off or tsunami wipes out a city. The society has to have developed technological capabilities that help negate all those things.
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03:09:09
Mhmm.
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03:09:09
And so, wouldn’t a society like that be able to live in the ocean? And if that’s the case, maybe that’s what’s going on. Because it seems ai there’s a lot of activity that that takes place in a place where we’ve only explored 5%.
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03:09:24
Yeah. And
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that’s the oceans. And there’s so many sightings of these transmedium crafts, including video of things going to the ai with no splash. And and and especially videos that were generated at a time where they didn’t have the sophisticated CGI that they have today. So, you know, if I saw that today, I’d be like, well, if that’s from 2025, who fucking knows who made that?
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03:09:46
That you could have made that on Chat GPT. And that and
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03:09:49
that’s where I’m going. You talk to I know you’ve interviewed Commander Fravor. I had the opportunity to meet and talk to him, like, in private in a group of people, and his I mean, the guy knows his shit. He knows the black ops. He knows everything. And this is twenty something years ago. 02/2004. And his thing is there is no way in hell.
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03:10:08
I mean, it would have been moving at 35,000 miles per hour and been transmedium Right. Literally twenty years ago.
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And the idea that someone’s inside of that is ridiculous. Like, you would be jello. Yeah. If it’s a traditional propulsion system, which, by the way, it didn’t it didn’t have any signatures Yeah. Of a traditional propulsion system. There’s no, like, heat blasting out
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03:10:30
the ground. Thing he sai, though, which I don’t I didn’t fully understand on the podcast is when he kept saying it knew our set point, it knew our set point or whatever
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03:10:39
Mhmm.
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03:10:39
That’s not programmed in anywhere. No. That’s just in the pilot’s head. Yeah. So how did it know the set Did
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03:10:47
you hear what Gary Nolan said about it?
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03:10:48
No. I haven’t listened to that one. I’m gonna listen to it though.
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03:10:50
He said that the amount of force that it would take so this thing is let’s just say this thing weighs, two tons, which is like a car. You know, ai, a lot of cars are, like, 4,000 pounds. Mhmm. So this thing weighs two tons, and it went from, you know, sea level to 50,000 feet above sea level in less than a second.
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03:11:11
So whether or not it that’s even physically possible, the amount of energy that it would take to generate to move 4,000 pounds that quickly would be the more than the total energy generated by The United States in a year. Mhmm. It’s nuts. And it has to do it instantaneously.
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03:11:31
When you start seeing
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all these things and then
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03:11:33
you layer in the Jesse stuff and all the shit all the work Jesse’s done and his deep dives into history and FOIA documents and disclosures and you just start going Yeah. What the hell?
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03:11:43
Yeah. You go what the hell? But I I it’s fun. And that’s how I treat it. I treat it like it’s fun because I really don’t know. I love the tridactyl mommies. I’m fascinated by ai. And I think Jesse’s I I think he deserves you know, if they were if journalism was really what it could have been today, if they had just sort of accepted independent journalism and and celebrated it instead of saying, like, only corporate sponsored, mainstream, of saying, like, only corporate sponsored mainstream, ai journalism is real journalism, which is obviously the opposite of what’s true.
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03:12:13
Jesse would get an award. If if Yeah. If if the the world was just, he would get an award. He would get an award for that particular show that he did on those Tridactyl Mummies because that is crazy. When he did when they did those scans and you see the ligor and and guys like Gary, who is a legitimate scientist, like, published at Stanford who who’s looking at that thing and saying, this doesn’t make any sense.
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03:12:39
Like, this is looks like a real creature.
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03:12:41
Mhmm.
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03:12:42
Everything is in place. We don’t know what it is. We don’t is that a genetic anomaly? Like, we have to study that. This is a crazy opportunity to study. And these folks just have it in Peru. Just have a few of them laying around the fetal position. These fucking aliens with three toes and three fingers.
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03:12:57
And it’s it seems to be a real body. And Jesse stuck his neck out and went down to Peru and filmed these things. And they did these medical scans on them so you could see what the actual what’s underneath all that, you know, white tissue looking stuff. Is this just sticks and
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03:13:12
Yeah. You you look at it and it seems too convenient and too crazy, but then when you watch him systematically speak down and all these thought leaders and all these experts and all these different people given their lens, and then you see these MRIs, And you’re like, you didn’t make those hands.
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03:13:29
No. Like, these would have been
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03:13:31
Not only that, seventeen hundred years ago, you didn’t make it. That’s the weird thing. And how about the one of them that has a fetus inside of it?
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03:13:38
The name of the region? Yeah. What the hell? What did he say
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03:13:42
the name of that? He says it in
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03:13:43
the meh, but the name of the region is, like, I don’t even know, insemination and something something or
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03:13:50
Ai like, what? Dude, those are probably aliens. And that’s probably a form of human. That’s probably what we’re gonna find out. If they do a d n if someone lets them do DNA tests on those things Yeah. And there’s DNA to extract and they run a sequence on it, I bet we find out out that we are like them. Yeah. I bet they’re the overlays. Interesting.
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03:14:08
The the weird thing about the Peru stuff is not just the mummies. It’s the ancient architecture. It’s, Machu Picchu. Mhmm. You know, it’s all these, like, really unexplained enormous stones that were placed in incredible ways where everything is, like, tongue and groove, like, where it would respond well to earthquakes, like a technology to avoid earthquakes with massive monolithic stones.
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03:14:38
When you’re looking at it and you’re like, how did you move this? Like, who did this?
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03:14:42
Yeah.
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03:14:42
Who why did you have all these, art projects where you could only see them from the sky? Yeah. Like, what is
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03:14:48
Oh, yeah.
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03:14:49
All the yeah. The Nazca ai? Crazy stuff. Yeah. And why do you have ancient artwork of these three fingered, three toed creatures? We you have artwork from a thousand years ago of these things. Like, with they seems like they were a real thing living in that arya, and they were probably flying around, and they were probably building Puma Punku and Machu Picchu.
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03:15:11
They probably were us. It’s It’s probably a version of us. Like, if Neanderthal was alive and then it wasn’t, and then we’re like, well, we didn’t even know that Neanderthal was a thing till we discovered oh, sai it looks like it had inner bread with us. Oh, it was a part of us. So now we know that there’s a Neanderthal, but five hundred years ago, no one had any idea.
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03:15:33
No one had any idea that there was, like, an ancient man that
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03:15:37
was bigger than us.
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03:15:38
I think you’ve got that
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03:15:40
down too. I think isn’t it, like, 70% of the bipedal species that we’ve uncovered, like, that our relatives have all been discovered in the last, like, sixty years?
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03:15:52
Yeah. And a bunch of them have been discovered in the last decade. Yeah. You know, just
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03:15:55
like Ai crazy, man.
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03:15:56
The last few years. Just recently, we’re talking about that Homo with Julien’s, this enormous man that they found with a huge head. They they don’t know how big these fucking things were. They might have been seven foot tall meh. Like and then there’s depictions of them, like, covering hair, looking fucking jacked, or they’re trying to, like, figure out what these things actually look like.
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03:16:16
Why is it so crazy to think there might have been a version of us that looked like that? Yeah. Why isn’t it so crazy if we are so soft and so doughy in comparison to gorillas? Because we’re so meh. Implants ai. Right?
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03:16:30
We’re so intelligent, and we’re so advanced in comparison to them. Well, if that thing is more advanced and more intelligent than us, it’s going to be just like what you compare us to gorillas. It’s gonna be like that to us. It’s gonna be comparable. It’s gonna be frail. And that’s what they look ai.
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03:16:47
Just frail super nerds with giant heads and fucking medical implants. What’s that thing in that thing’s neck? Like, what is that?
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03:16:56
It’s gonna get interesting too. I know that Korbel and Knapp are, they say they’ve got, I think, six witnesses including, I thought, firsthand witnesses that are gonna testify this time. Wow. If if if it if it all happens. The weird
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03:17:10
thing is the Virginia, descriptions look exactly like those things. Yeah. Three toes, three fingers. And everybody’s like, that’s nonsense.
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03:17:19
The black one? It was at the black
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03:17:20
Well, it’s like a ai Yeah.
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It’s like a ai, the one that meh, and then the guy died who touched it. Yeah. There’s all this, like, documented stuff that occurred. And
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03:17:28
they smell like sulfur. Yeah. Just like demons. Yeah. It’s probably what they were trying to describe. I I mean, if you had somebody came down ai
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03:17:36
multiple times meh interdimensional, which is I thought was interesting. Yeah.
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03:17:40
But she didn’t have an explanation. Like, what do you mean? How do you know that? Why are you saying that so confidently? Like Yeah. Like, you’d have to tell me, like, how how does something traverse a dimension? What’s the theory? Yeah. And what does that mean? Like, where is it?
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03:17:51
Is it in a physical form somewhere else? Like another place? And it comes here? Like, what do you mean? You know, because there’s a dimension of sound.
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03:17:58
There’s a dimension of ai, three dimensions or it’s ai, you know, space and time and all that. We we kind of have an understanding or grasp of it. Yeah. So if there’s a seventh dimension, eighth dimension, does it just take a bus and get here? Like, what are you talking about?
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03:18:11
Is it here and now it exists in this dimension and that dimension simultaneously? Like, what is it what happens to its form over there
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03:18:18
when the crush was trying to explain it to me, but I’m too dumb. Off. I’m not smart enough.
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03:18:22
I’m not even nearly
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03:18:23
smart enough. You’re a three-dimensional being in a three-dimensional world, and there your shadow on the ground is a two dimensional shadow of a three-dimensional being in a
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03:18:31
three-dimensional world. Ai a I’m a material girl. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Yeah. I don’t know, ram. But it’s fun.
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03:18:41
It is fun.
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03:18:42
It’s fun to it’s fun to talk about, and I’m glad there’s guys like Jesse out there making awesome videos. And I about this one, I think it’s one of the most important because it’s it it throws a giant monkey wrench into it’s all nonsense. Because as soon as you see the scans of that thing’s body, everyone should it should pause.
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03:18:58
Everyone should put their newspaper down and go, what the fuck are we doing about this?
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03:19:02
Yeah.
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03:19:02
Like, what are we doing about this? That might be what everyone’s been talking about. That might be the thing that genetically engineered us. That might be it.
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03:19:12
So crazy.
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03:19:13
So crazy.
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03:19:14
If we’re bringing back ai wolves, then
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03:19:16
Bring back an alien. Yeah. They’re probably already here. That’s probably just one that we found, you know. They’re probably here and they don’t wanna be seen anymore because we’re assholes. And then one day, we won’t be assholes. Alright, brother. Dude. Let’s wrap this up.
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03:19:28
Thank you for having me on. Three and a half hours.
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03:19:30
I mean, that was this is the longest one we’ve done.
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03:19:33
Yeah. But it’s awesome. I love you. Appreciate you very much. Appreciate what you’re doing. It’s an awesome ways toweld.com. Check it out, and thank you for all you’re doing to try to give people a better understanding about how fucking incredibly corrupt this whole system really is.
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03:19:49
Thank you for having me on and giving us a voice. My pleasure, my brother.
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03:19:52
Ai, everybody ai.