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Dave Smith is comic, political commentator, host of the “Part of the Problem” podcast, and a co-host of the “Legion of Skanks” podcast.www.comicdavesmith.com
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Rogan experience. Ai meh day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. How weird is it to be Dave Smith?
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It’s a little bit weird. It’s weird sana be Joe Rogan.
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You think?
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Yeah. It’s gotta be.
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It’s weird. It’s weird to be any person in the public ai. But, in this time, it’s particularly weird. If you’re, like, one of the only people. I mean, the media is so bizarrely compromised. It’s so weird when you watch these narratives spin both on the left and on the ai. And ai, is anybody fucking rational? Is anybody looking at the and there’s so few that a comedian, like yourself, just rises to the top of the heap?
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Well, it’s funny dude because so ai, since the last time, I was on, this has been kind of like the knock on me in a way now. Is that a comedian? You’re just a comedian.
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You’re ai absolute support comedian. That’s right. Ai you ever been? It feels weird. Support comedian?
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Feels weird doing this without Doug, to be honest. It seems kinda wrong. But that’s been ai the essentially, that’s like the knock is like, yeah, but you’re you’re acting like you’re an expert, but you’re just some comedian. And it’s like, no, that’s the point. That’s always been the point. Like, yes, I’m just a comedian. I’m not an expert.
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And and still, being not an expert, hand me your favorite Warhawk, and I will tear them to shreds because it’s actually not that hard. And ai these people aren’t really experts either.
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Well, also also the problem with that is these people that are talking about these things arya talking about people not being experts while they’re not experts. Yeah. There’s, you know, what does Doug have a degree in English? Yeah. Right. Okay. Is Ram Harris is a neuroscientist.
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Mhmm. You know,
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there’s all these different people who have, you know, expertise in one area that is pretty much outside geopolitical, you know, world politics and international relations and chaos and war and the military industrial complex. Like, these are very very complex, sophisticated, nuanced discussions that you have to have when you’re talking about these things because there’s so many different factors at play.
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There’s so much money. There’s so much bullshit in terms of, like, what’s the truth? What’s the narrative? Who’s pushing the narrative? Who’s being paid to push the narrative?
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Which is really weird. There’s so many of these fucking online influencers that I don’t even think are really human beings that have, like, prominent accounts.
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Yep. Yep. But then there’s also it’s it’s a convenient kind of way to dismiss somebody. Of course. Instead of addressing the facts. Well, I thought it was this just I thought was really funny to me was that so, like, a few days after the last time, after me and and Douglas Murray debated on the show, he went on Bill Maher’s show.
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And so it’s ai after having this whole thing, the whole forty five minutes opening the show about how you comedians don’t know what you’re talking about. Sai don’t know what you’re talking ai while he’s smearing two people who he’s never heard of and doesn’t even know what they do or whatever, but not the best way to make a an appeal to expertise.
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But no one he doesn’t have a problem with Bill Maher doing it because he agrees with him. So the issue isn’t really being an expert versus being a comedian. You know, Constantin Kasin went on this whole thing about expert tease and all of this, and it’s like, he also started as a comedian.
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Why why all of a sudden does this standard only apply to me and only when I’m talking about Israel? It never it never applied to me when I was talking about COVID. It never applied to me when they agreed with me on stuff. They would just go, look, Dave, breaking it down. But now there’s this one topic that one guy is not allowed to not be an expert on, and it happens to be this one topic that the entire, like, population is turning on.
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I shouldn’t say the entire, but, like, huge numbers.
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When someone attacks, like, what you do professionally versus versus what you’re actually saying.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Why not just dispute what he’s saying instead of, like, this appeal to authority. Right. Like, you’re not you’re not an expert.
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But also, you know, to add and to ask that question is to answer that question.
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Or you can only ask me a few things in life that I can give you, like, definitive answers on. And even then, I I might have to refer to expert. Like, if you wanna ask me about judo. I’ve been doing jujitsu for since ’90 I think I started in ’97, somewhere around then. ’96, maybe. I don’t know shit about judo.
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Right.
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I know how to do a few hip tosses, but when someone is doing something, I I don’t even know what it’s called. If I go haragoshi, I might get it wrong because because Harigoshi might be legs on the outside versus leg in the inside. Wrestling, I gotta defer to DC. You know? So even in martial arts, I’m not totally an expert.
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Yeah. And then there might be somebody who is, like, totally an expert, ai, like, say, you know, a a wrestler who went to the Olympics. Right. And with, like, a total expert or a coach or something like that, total expert in wrestling, and they could still get something about MMA completely off. Or jiu jitsu.
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Ai. Because, like
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in the last fight, in the last UFC card. Daniel Cormier didn’t know about the dead orchard. So he thought this person was fine because they had two arms in while they’re caught in a triangle. I go, no. This is a real submission. This is fucking dangerous. Like, there’s this ai, Nathan Orchard, who figured out how to do a triangle with two arms in, and it’s replicable.
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A lot of guys do it now. And I think it was a lady at the last UFC had it. And I was like, oh, shit. And Daniel didn’t know it yet. There’s a couple other things ai the buggy choke.
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If you don’t know about jiu jitsu and you see a guy who’s on his back and he’s getting smothered, but all of a sudden he reaches under with his meh, and I’m going, oh, oh, oh, and you don’t know what’s going on. Like, that’s a fucking choke, like a really dangerous one. Ai Ruatolo gets you in ai, you’re Fucksville.
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You know, there’s guys so it’s ai there’s areas of expertise even in areas that I’m an expert in that I have to call on other people. Like, this is a stupid argument. Like, what are the facts? Does that submission work? Is that genocide?
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Like,
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what what is you know, what’s going on? Were you funding Hamas? Is is Hezbollah a proxy of Iran? Did Iran get our the money to do this when Biden released the funds? Because the what what what who’s who’s allowed to be an expert on all these things?
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Yeah. And then, of course, there are then there are things ai, say, say, like, do you do you support lockdowns? And, like, in order to have, say, an expert opinion on this policy, it’s ai, okay, well, you’d be ai they’d say we’re following the ai. You know, so in other words, they have an epidemiologist or something like that who’s arguing lockdowns. We’ll we’ll cut down on the transmission of the ai.
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Forget, they turned out to be wrong, but leaving that ai, you’re like, okay, but are they also an economist? Are they also a a specialist in Sociologist. Sai sociologist, a specialist in childhood development who would tell you what closing the schools oh, who’s the person who has expertise in every single one of those fields?
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Doesn’t exist. There isn’t an expert in all of those fields. You know what
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I mean? That was the problem with that time? Because that time, everyone was so fearful and the news is pushing fear and it was clearly a narrative. I forget who it was, but some some health official was being interviewed recently and he said that during 2020 that Anthony, Fauci said to him, the problem is Americans aren’t scared enough, which is crazy
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to say.
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It’s a wild thing to say that your goal is to make people more fearful. So you’re trying to put out a narrative that makes people more fearful, which, by the way, fucks with your immune system in a gigantic way. Not good at all to be scared. I don’t know how many people got really, really, really sick from COVID because when they got it, they freaked the fuck out, and they couldn’t speak, and they thought they were gonna die, and they were riddled with ai.
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And that makes you attack people around you, and then you look for a solution. And when these trusted institutions, which up until five fucking years ago, I was 100% on board with with everything, with vaccines, with every medical innovation other than psychiatric medications, which I think are pretty much overprescribed.
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Ai of a sudden, everyone’s, like, hoping these people have the answer. So anybody was going, but but this is Ai Jay Bhattacharya. You know? He’s also an expert. Fuck you. Fuck you. It’s like an anti sai, trust the science, COVID denier, vaccine denier.
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It just became this fearful because everybody just responded to the fucking media because everybody’s too tuned in to all of this negative shit, man, all day long.
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Well, you have to scare people. You know, if you wanna if you wanna implement, like, a tyrannical policy, you almost always have to scare people. I mean, that’s now That’s
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the only way.
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Yeah. Now everyone knows, right, like you just said, like, being, terrified is not good for your health. Shah on a human level, we also all know that it’s not good for good decision making, you know? But it is excellent for, I will turn my brain off and give the authority to you Yes. To go do I mean, look, it was, right after 09:11.
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If you you know, people forget about this. But, like, the level to which Dick Cheney and George w Bush used to fear monger, Dick Cheney, the vice president of The United States Of America who is a bit more than just your average vice president, he sai, it’s not a matter of if, but when there will be another nine eleven attack.
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They built the they were trying to tell the American people right after nine eleven to be in a constant state of fear.
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Do you remember the COVID warnings where they had colors? Or excuse meh, the war
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The the the the
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warning where they had colors?
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The the threat level or whatever color. Yeah. And then one day ai be like, it’s up to yellow. Yeah. And everyone and and I mean, we were really still traumatized from nine eleven. But the thing about it is is that they knew what they wanted to do. They knew the the policy they wanted to start embarking on.
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And it was the mix of they hate us the big lie, which was they hate us for our freedom, which was, like, really the big lie after nine eleven was, like because because the American people very organically wanted to know what the beef was. Like, nine eleven happened here with everybody was ai, yo, why do they hate us? Right. What’s this beef about?
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And their answer was they hate you for your freedom, and ai the way, this is gonna happen again. So be terrified. Second off, understand that they’re so irrational that their beef with you is that, like, your grandma can go to the grocery store. So what do you do with that other than sai, what the American people said, which is George w Bush, you have a blank check to go attack whoever you want to and will support you.
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Yeah. I remember feeling that way. I remember feeling that way. Right? I remember feeling it’s up to these fucking guys, these hard nosed generals and military leaders that are these are the guys that are gonna protect us now. We gotta put all our faith in them. This shit is real and it’s going on. But I had no idea.
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This is so 02/2001, I wasn’t that much of a conspiracy theorist. I was into UFOs. I was into Bigfoot. I was into stupid shit. You know, I was into fun stupid shit.
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Right. Right.
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You know, me and Eddie Bravo would get high and watch space documentaries and freak out about aliens, you know, the stupid shit. But then the Patriot Act came saloni. And I was like, okay. What the fuck is this? Like, what is what is indefinite detention meh? When they ai the NDAA, ai, what wait a minute.
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What are you talking about? And what is the the month what it it rhymes with cunt that the act that Obama passed in 2015 that allowed them to use censorship or excuse me propaganda on American citizens.
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Yeah. Yeah. Smith Munn. Uh-huh. So what was like that.
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Yep. It’s ai, okay. But at what point in time do I start getting really fucking suspicious? Yep. Yeah. Ai had read one book a long time ago that really fucked me up. This book called Best Evidence about the Kennedy assassination. And unfortunately, I read it right before I went on stage. I was I was by myself. I was in Philadelphia and I was headlining.
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And this is ai when I was just starting to headline. Right? And so, had a show Thursday, killed. Everything’s great. Went back to my hotel ram. Nothing to do.
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Read this fucking book for ai six hours. Freaked the fuck out. Showed up at the shah, like, ashen faced, like, oh ai god. They killed the president. Like, I had never even considered that before that book.
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Right.
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I never even thought that there’s, like, secret government agencies that plot against the president. Like, I thought that’s the fucking man and everybody works together and Lee Harvey Oswald was a nut and he fucking shah him. And I’m like, oh ai god. And I bombed. I fucking bombed. And I apologize to the staff. Ai apologize to the manager.
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I go, listen, I I fucked up and I read this book right before I got here and it really fucked me up. It’s done that before, man. I’ve had
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You need when you have your mind blown like that, you need time after that before you make it funny. Oh. Like, it takes it takes time to, like, then almost come back to it a few months later. Ai tyler
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engage in that ai of stuff, like, right before you go on stage. It’s terrible. Anything real and ominous and do so I had a second show and it went great. But I was like, okay, I can’t ever do that again. But that started me. But that was just peripheral. It was just the the JFK thing. I thought I was only interested in that. I didn’t get into Nixon.
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I didn’t get into Vietnam. I didn’t get into any of that stuff. But 09/11/2001, in the beginning, it was wonderful. After the attack, everyone was so friendly. It’s terrible that this thing happened. It’s terrible that these people died. But it made me think, like, we need every now and then, we need to get bitch slapped.
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You know, it’s ai when you see people, like, getting in people’s faces for, like, waving an American flag, fuck you fascist ai. A bitch slap every now and then, like, that guy might go, fuck him. What was I doing? I just ran up to that vatsal, and I got in his face because I wanna impress my lesbian girlfriend. Like, fuck is wrong with me?
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I don’t know how to fight. Sai know Ai got a concussion, and this guy bitch slapped me. It’s on TikTok. Fuck. You know, like, you need that sometimes just as, like, a course reset.
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And I felt like, as a country, we had been doing shady shit all around the world forever, and there’s real war happening everywhere, but we’re super lucky because we’re separated by oceans and not too much has really happened here. Oh, my God. This is real. And everybody had an American flag on their fucking car.
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And when I was in New York City afterwards, we’re filming Fear Factor one day, and everyone was so cool. And firemen were rock stars. Yep. Cops were rock stars. Everybody was thanking them. Everybody was thanking them for their service.
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It was we hung out with these firemen in front of this bar, me and the the Fear Factor crew. These guys were fucking it’s like I was hanging out with Brad Pitt. It was nuts. Everybody was so thankful. Where’d that go?
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Yeah. I was there, I was in New York City, on 09:11, and, I remember so I was in in Brooklyn, like, only a few miles from the World Trade Center, And, like Did you physically see it? No. I saw so I remember seeing you know, I think so I when I got out of school I was in high school.
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I was a senior in high school, and we we got out. One of the girls, like, forged a note, and said it was from our parents or something like that. I forget exactly how it worked, but we got out. It was, like, I was friends with a security guard. I used to buy weed from him. It was a different time. But, you know, it was a different time.
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03/09/2011, we were just all hanging out ai weed from security guards at schools. But sai he let us out. So I remember we I’m pretty sure when we came to Flatbush Ave, we saw, like, it was there was smoke in the air, but both the towers had had fallen by the time we got out.
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But there were people. So the subways had been out for a ai, and where I was, I was, like, on Flatbush Avenue, if if anyone knows Brooklyn. It’s ai Flatbush and Seventh Avenue. So this is ai it’s kind of a straight shoot down to the Manhattan Bridge, and then the Brooklyn Bridge is is down there too.
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But the Brooklyn Bridge, you can walk over. And so at this point already, people who are down in the financial District had just decided to walk back to Brooklyn because they realized they weren’t gonna get a cab or get on the subway. And so you’d see just, like, one guy in a suit and tie covered in soot, head to toe, like, walking up like, oh, he must have just been down there and and walked up.
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And but I remember now this is in Brooklyn, but even there, I was very busy. But ai were stopping and asking each other. People who you would pass on the street but never talk to were stopping and asking everyone, how’s your family? Everyone okay? Ai.
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Are you fine like, there was this, like, community spirit that you just didn’t you don’t typically get in New York City because there’s just too many people. You can’t talk to everybody.
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Yeah.
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But that that part of it was kinda beautiful. And then, of course, governments do what they do and immediately manipulated that into launching wars that they wanted from before nine eleven that had absolutely nothing to do with with nine eleven. Yeah. Which is, you know
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Also, the Patriot Act was a bunch of shit they had tried to pass Mhmm. For a ai, for years. And everyone’s ai, what are you fucking crazy?
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Well, this is the thing. And I guess maybe it’s partly, like, my age because I was 18 at the time and this is, like, my coming of age, you know, time. Right. But I will never stop being furious about all of that shit. And this is, like, still to this sai, I’m sure you you see it when I’m on podcast with you and doing debates and stuff.
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But I’m so angry over the war in Iraq and and the subsequent wars and, you know, Libya and Syria and Somalia and Yemen and all of them. But specifically because, like, all these guys, the neoconservatives, the the n word that I’m not supposed to bring up, even though by the way, Douglas Murray wrote a book called neoconservatism, ai we need it.
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But when I say the word neoconservative, be careful what you’re watering here or something like that.
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Is that what they sai? They, I didn’t know that this was an issue, that you you you can’t discuss neoconservative?
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Well, that’s Douglas said when I was on with him. He said, ah, the n word, when I brought
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it up.
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And then sai, I’m I’m watering something because I mentioned Wolfowitz, you know.
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Okay. So that’s antisemitism ai leaning into. Well, that’s ai ridiculous.
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Well, I mean, I’d say the answer is that those guys got into power. They really hijacked American foreign policy after nine eleven because they happen to all be in power in the Bush administration, then nine eleven happened on their watch. And but if you go back and read the shit they read, and I will never stop talking about this because it’s just too goddamn crazy.
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But if you read all of these guys, the guys who were in the George w Bush administration, I mean, like, the signatories on the Project for a New American Century, which was their think tank, the Speak, as it’s called, were ai Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz and and, Fife and Richard Perle and David Wormser.
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And it was like the whole group who took over the government were all and they wrote explicitly in the Project for a New American Century that they were like, ai. Okay. The Soviet Union has collapsed. We are, for the first time in human history, like ai lone superpower in the world.
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So what we should do right now is fight multiple wars because no one threatens us, and so therefore, we should fight multiple wars to right now, we have an opportunity to remake the world, overthrow the old Soviet sock puppet states, install our own states there, and guarantee, as the name says, the new American century of dominance, the twenty first century.
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And they specifically said they wanna overthrow Saddam Hussein, and then they specifically said in and now this is something that the nine eleven truthers really held on to. I’m not sure. I think they might be overplaying their hand a little bit here, but they say there’s one document in the Project for a New American Century.
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You can find it online, where they straight up say they go, now look, this is what we wanna do, but we’re unlikely to get mass American support for it short of another Pearl Harbor type event. And so a lot of people ai Alex Jones and a lot of the nine eleven truthers would point to this phrase and go sai this is the proof that they knew they needed another Pearl Harbor, so they planned their own Pearl Harbor.
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Now that is not necessarily true. It doesn’t necessarily prove that, but it certainly does change the way you think about their mind state when they sit there watching the towers get attacked. And they all at the very least, they all went, we got it.
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You know, Alex Jones predicted nine eleven in July? Yeah.
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But that’s not quite as that’s not quite as unique as I think some people think it is.
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Really?
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Well, like, people so like Ai you
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ever hear how he said it?
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Yeah. I’ve heard I’ve heard the clip. It was pretty good. I mean, I’m I’m not, like, taking anything away from that. He was ai, but there were a bunch of people who predicted it. Ron Paul, himself predicted it perfectly. Did they
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predict planes into the towers?
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Let’s just sai, no. I don’t know about that. That is pretty impressive. But at the same time, you know,
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the Put planes had never flown into towers before.
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That’s true, but the World Trade Center was attacked by Al Qaeda guys in ’93.
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That’s
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a biggie song.
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Yeah.
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That’s right. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. Adrian Apollucci has the funniest joke about that. I believe so. Do you ever hear Adrienne’s joke about that? No. Did you get I don’t wanna butcher it on your shah, but Adrienne Apollucci is a
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hilarious comedian. But she had
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a joke about how, you know, in that song, where Biggie goes ai to get paid blow up like the world bryden, but they bleep world trade now. And then her bit is how they didn’t bleep like, he was talking about the first one, but they bleep it because of the second, you know, because the towers came down.
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But then her bit is just ai you go like, that wasn’t enough of a tragedy to make it bleeped. It’s ai a fight. It’s like only a few people died. Like, it was cool. But then when a lot of people ai, they were she’s a phenomenal joke writer.
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Well, it’s a different time. Back then, they would have never bleeped anything. They didn’t bleep the n word. They didn’t bleep anything.
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Yeah. It was it was, the Ai West.
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Well, it’s weird when you hear about so I don’t know if I fully buy into any of this, but as a caveat before I get rolling. But, when people discuss the intelligence agencies and their role in hip hop, especially gangster ram. Like, I remember the very first time I listened to NWA.
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And, I think I told Ice Cube when he was here. I was on a fucking Stairmaster in Revere, Massachusetts and I was listening to Fuck the Police. I was like, Fuck the Police coming straight from the underground. I was like, what is this? This is ai was a cassette Walkman or maybe it was a CD, but it was probably a cassette Walkman And I was, like, doing getting my cardio work.
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They were better for working out. They didn’t skip.
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The the they got good with the CD after a while. It didn’t skip. But you had to set it on you had to set it on the treadmill.
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And you had to hit that, like, shock mode thing. And then that would eat your battery so quickly, though. Like, you get three songs in and be ai, alright. You have to go to the gym with, like, spare batteries to hear.
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To me, it was so insane that I could carry music with me to the gym. Like, that’s incredible. Because you go to the gym and it’d be ai the worst Poison song playing. No disrespect to Poison Or something. They’re like, god, I can’t get into this. I’m trying to get pumped here, man. This is fucking bullshit music. Like, someone’s in charge of the, you know, the the station that they pick on the radio.
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Dude, I Just to be able to carry it. But I that moment of hearing that music, I was like, this is the this is celebrating crime and murder. Like, this is nuts. And murdering prostitutes and, like, this is crazy that this is ai a major record label put this out. And I was only 21.
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And I was, you know, I was just sitting there going, I can’t even believe this is real. And then I got really into it. Like, I’m really into ice cube, really into ai tea. I’d listened to that when I was delivering newspapers. It was ai gangster rap was ai a completely different thing.
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So then cut to when people start digging into it, like intelligence agencies have had there’s a weird book on intelligence agencies and their role in rock and roll music in the nineteen sixties. The movie about well, the book about Laurel Canyon. What is it? Strange things? It’s very interesting. I don’t know if I buy it. Eddie Bravo’s all in on it.
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I don’t know if I buy it,
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but there’s a lot of, like, weird connections to the intelligence community and music, particularly hip hop and particularly gangster rap. And if you sana get really dark, you would say, if you sana fill your private prisons up, what better way than have very popular music encouraging prisons, excuse me, encouraging crime, encouraging ai celebrating crime and violence.
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That way, you fill your prisons up, and you also keep people scared sai you can give them more laws and more rules and ram down and make them easier to placate, easier to get them to fall in line and do what you need them to do.
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Yeah. And and support massive, police buildups and massive, you know, like militarization of the police and all this stuff. And I don’t know. You know, I’ve I’ve heard a little bit about that. I really don’t know. I know Ice Cube has talked about it before, like, talked about how, like, there’s undeniably this influence.
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It does there are things about it that seem crazy, but I do know that and I don’t even think this is a controversial thing to say. I think this is just, like, fact at this point that it was the Reagan administration who did traffic in cocaine to The United States Of America while they were ramping up the war on drugs.
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So, like, they’re bringing in 100%. In their effort to help the Contras or whatever, they’re going, like, ai, well, these guys are are drug dealers. So if we move these drugs in, we can get these money shipments to them. And then you’re sitting in they’re they’re creating the conditions for the crack epidemic
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Yeah.
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To explode. And then they catch one guy with a few rocks on him, and they’re throwing him in jail for decades. It’s ai, just that alone, just that one piece of information, you’d almost if if you’re, like, in a sane world, you’d go, like, oh, so the people had a revolution and overthrew that government and publicly hung all the politicians involved, and then we started over from ram?
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And you’re like Ai
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say no.
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No. They lionized that guy. Still, for decades afterwards, the Republicans at the RNC, you bring up Reagan and they go, our hero, Ronald Reagan. Like, the fact that that isn’t enough to go, well, this guy should be remembered, like, as a monster.
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Do you think they tell Reagan that they’re selling crack in the hood? Ai don’t think they do. I do not think I don’t do not think the intelligence agencies let that information that far up the chain to a guy who’s only in there for four years for us to get reelected. Fair enough. Not a chance.
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But George h w Bush definitely there. That guy here for sure.
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He probably he fucking signed the docket. That guy was all over that.
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He was
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all over. He was the head of the CIA.
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He was their guy. He was the head of the CIA. Moved in. Right. So, you know, but but, again, also, you get to a certain point when you’re president. I think this applies to Donald Trump in a lot of ways too, where it’s ai, it’s your responsibility. Like, if you didn’t know, then that’s your responsibility for not knowing.
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I don’t think you have an access. I do not. I do not think in cases like that, you have access. I think if they’re doing something ai selling crack in the hood and using the money to fund the contrast, there’s no fucking way you could ever kosherize that. So I don’t think you ever let the president know. I think this is all black funded.
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I don’t think I think there’s layers and layers and layers of bureaucracy before you can get to any real data and information. If you wanna talk about people that are doing operations in Nicaragua, you’ve got things going on in Iran, you’ve gotta pay attention to Russia, this is happening here, that’s happening there.
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There’s not a fucking chance he knows they’re selling crack to pay for an army. I just don’t I just don’t think you ai tell him.
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Look. You might be right about that.
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Because why would they assume that he’d go along with it? Or tell him This is not a normal thing to do. I I came into this office thinking I’m an actor. Yeah. I’m Ronald Reagan. I came came into this office thinking I’m gonna be a good American and we’re gonna get back to basics and hard work and trickle down economics.
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And you’re telling me you’re selling crack? Hey, fucking. You’re going to jail. You know what I’m saying?
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Yeah. Well Because
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he can’t that’s how Nixon got caught. So Nixon didn’t organize Watergate. He tried to cover it up.
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Yep. That’s how he got caught.
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And they would do the same thing with Reagan. Yeah. Well, it’s You didn’t come clean about all the ram selling? Do you really?
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Right. Well, they they could present it to them after it’s a fait accompli and then be ai, so what do you wanna do now? Which is what happened with Nixon. Right? So it’s like, look, this is gonna look really, really bad. Good luck explaining this. Right.
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So he helps them cover it up, and then you go, now we got you. We got you, basically. Ai as well have been in on planning it because you helped us cover it up.
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And the whole thing was set up by the government. That’s what’s really crazy. His intelligence agency set up Watergate. They they operated it. Bob Woodward was an intelligence agent before he was ever a reporter. That was his first gig. Tucker Carlson told me that it blew my fucking mind.
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He’s ai, what rookie reporter for their first gig, their first story gets you’re gonna take down the most popular president in US history? Yeah. He won by the biggest margin.
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In 49 states.
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Yeah.
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He’s a dominant real the American people had speak. They supported this guy. And then, right, Bob Woodward, some 20 year old reporter, he gets the biggest story in American history. He happened to just come out of vatsal intelligence in a weird coincidence. Can I
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tell you what Bill Murray told me? No. So Bill Murray was on the podcast sana was talking about Bob Woodward’s movie Meh. The book he wrote. Ai what was it? What was it called?
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Well, he’s written a lot at this point. The one about Belushi.
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What was it called? It was a it
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was a
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I didn’t know that. Okay. It was just about Belushi being fucking crazy drug addict. He goes, that’s not my friend. He goes, that’s not how he was. He was like, that was kind of an act. He was a little bit of a lightweight. Like, if he had, like, two, three drinks, he was drunk.
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Like, he was I think he did that speak. I think that’s the first time he ever did it and died. It’s not that he never done drugs before, but he wasn’t this guy. So this is all fiction. So he read the first five pages is, oh ai god.
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They ram Nixon.
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Yeah. Isn’t that crazy?
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Ai know. It’s like this guy wrote about my friend in such a distorted untruthful way. Now I have to think about what he discovered with Nixon.
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Yeah.
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Now I know who what kind of person this is.
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Yeah. I my, good friend who I mentioned quite a bit, but Scott Horton, who is, the, I think, the best foreign policy voice in The United States Of America, and he’s written he wrote the best book on the terror wars called Enough Already and the best book on the war in Ukraine called Provoked.
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But sai while so Bob Woodward’s latest book came out, and I remember he told me about this. But sai he just happened to be writing his book on Ukraine when he saw this new Bob Woodward book came out, and they had a quote in it. I believe it was a Sergey Lavrov quote who’s ai Putin’s, you know, right hand man. And Scott said he’s reading it, and he goes, this quote’s all wrong.
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He goes, the the actual quote like, I was he was just researching this for his book. And he goes, the quote means the exact opposite of what he’s claiming it means here. Like, see how he left out this part? He wasn’t referring to this. He was referring to that. And then he just I remember he just told me.
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He goes, like, so for the record, like, you can just never trust anything Bob Woodward says ai he’ll take this quote and just get it comp mangle it to the point where it he’s presenting it as if it means 180 degrees opposite of what the quote actually meant. And sai, yeah, there’s a lot of stuff like that. And then that guy is, like, the historian of record.
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Would you have ever imagined that? When all the years when I was growing up, that guy was ai a hero.
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Mhmm.
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He was like a journalistic hero.
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Well, and he’s how we know. He’s how you know that in that moment, Dick Cheney turned to George w Bush and said, mister president, I think we need to and then you’re like, oh. But he just makes shit up. Oh,
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god. Like, when I was a kid, you know, they made a movie about him. All the President’s Meh Mhmm. Is a movie. Where who plays Bob Woodward? What movie star plays Bob Woodward? Which one of them? Robert Redford. Was it Robert Redford or was it the other guy? Who’s who else was in that movie with him? Who played Bernstein? Dustin Hunt. Ai Hunt. That’s right. That’s right.
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Robert Redford’s
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Woodward. Yeah.
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So imagine that. You’re, you’re Bob Woodward. You bullshit everybody, and then you get to watch Robert Redford, the most handsome man alive, play in a movie, like, outstanding. Look how good looking I am. And look at me kicking ass for America.
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But also just think about how much they could get. I remember I don’t know what I I was in school, and I remember hearing, like, my history teacher talking to another teacher, and this was when Bill Clinton was, getting in trouble for Monica Lewinsky. So I was, like, in in middle school or whatever.
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And I remember hearing them talk, and one of them said to the other, he goes, so what do you think about the impeachment or something? And I remember my history teacher, Sai thought he was a pretty smart ai. And he goes, well, you know, they’re treating him like he’s Nixon, but he’s not Nixon.
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And essentially what that meant, ai, what he was saying was, like, well, Nixon is the most corrupt president who ever lived. Bill Clinton just got caught cheating on his ai. Like, that’s not as big a deal as being the most corrupt. But, they just made that, like, the thing that everybody knows. Like, well, we did have this one corrupt president, but the system works.
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That’s the
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lesson. The system works and it got him out of there.
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Before the Internet, it works. I think it’s, like, very hard to make that same system work the same way now.
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No. I completely I mean to say that the narrative that everybody accepted ai, like, oh, but the system works. Like, it figured out that he was corrupt. They had him step down. They got him out of there. When really the answer is much more ai the intelligence agencies, took over The United States Of America in a hostile coup against John f Kennedy, and then Nixon comes in, like, a few years later and is, like, essentially taken over as well, but they get the American people to believe that, like, what that was was a corrupt president being ousted.
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He’s not a good looking ai, and it was just after Kennedy. Look, when Muhammad Ali retired, Larry Holmes couldn’t get any love, couldn’t get any love. And one of the reasons why Larry Holmes is one of the best heavyweight champions of all time, couldn’t get any love is because he beat the fuck out of Muhammad Ali.
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And everybody was sai, and everybody hated him because of that. And you just you’re you’re never like, if you’re Nixon, you’re following JFK who got shot in the fucking head. We lost. We got assassinate. Someone assassinated the greatest president of all time, this good looking guy who’s gonna really change things and didn’t believe in secrecy sana was talking to the American people ai we have hope and dreams.
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He wants to put us on the moon, and he got shot in the head. Now we got this ugly fuck.
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Well, there was LBJ in between there, at least. But yes. No. I mean
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A little bit.
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Well, I think also in hindsight, he just his he he it’s not he wasn’t that good looking. He also came off as kind of
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Well, he’s gonna say his father. Very authoritarian. Yeah. You know, which is, unfortunately, when you have a society where you do have ubiquitous crime, you do need some kind of an authoritarian leadership. Not saying you need tyranny, not saying you need a dictator, but you need fucking laws, and you need rule of law.
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And sometimes those people come off very harsh and very uncaring and unloving and, you know, that’s total opposite for, like, the reason why people voted for Jimmy Carter, I think. Because Jimmy Carter represented ai like a genuinely sweet good guy.
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Right.
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But, like, look how that presidency was a ai. Because they were all working against him, for sure. And on top of that, it’s, like, hard to ai, you kinda gotta be a bit of a hard ass if you wanna run the world. But the way Nixon did it, we’re still suffering through that today. That motherfucker, he he’s partially responsible for that sweeping Schedule one Act of 1970.
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When they did that and they made everything illegal, everything Schedule one, including things that are 100% medicinal, like meh. All that fucked up ai, and they did it specifically to target the anti war movement and to target the civil rights movement, specifically. So it’s not like Nixon was the best. Oh, no. Oh, wow. What he did was fucking horrible.
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Nixon had a lot of policy failures, and and I would put the number one, and I completely agree with you. I mean, launching the war on drugs was a disaster, but taking us off the gold standard was one of the worst policy decisions in the history of The United States Of America.
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Terrible. We’re we’re so many of the problems we face now is because of that. And people could say, like, I’ve heard Pat Buchanan defend, Nixon on this before. Pat Buchanan was in the Nixon administration. He was a speechwriter form. And he was ai, well, look what were we gonna do at that point.
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And so he was basically saying because what happened was essentially so you had ai the, the Bretton Woods agreement, which started, started after World War two. Or actually I’m sorry. It started at the very end of World War two. It was in 1944, where they had the Bryden Woods agreement, where they could kind of see where World War two was going.
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And it was basically ai, okay, well, the all of Europe is destroyed, and a lot of Asia is destroyed or not meh. I guess, it’s 44, but it was getting there. And the and America had, you know, at least on the homeland hadn’t really been touched. And we had, like, wild amount of the world’s gold. And so the deal was essentially that, like, we will peg the dollar to gold at $35 an ounce.
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Everyone else can peg their currency to the dollar, and then the dollars are, refundable. You know, you can get an ounce for $35. And so that, you know, was whatever. There there were problems with the Bretton Woods agreement, but that was what stood from after World War two into so from 1944 to 1973 or 1971 when he took us off the gold standard.
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And sai, essentially, what happened was through the sixties, we started cheating. And it became very obvious to the world that we’re like, you know, the nineteen sixties, you’re like, you have the great ai, so we created Medicare and and Meh, and, they we went to the moon, and we are fighting the war in Vietnam.
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And we’re just printing money for all of this, which is, you know, what we still do to this day. But so, essentially, the Europeans started looking at us, and they were ai, I don’t think you got enough gold to cover all these dollars that you’re printing around.
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Wasn’t that thing where they were gonna, like, do an audit of Fort Knox that Well we never heard about?
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Well, what I know is that Ai pretty sure it was the Ai. Might have been the British too, but it was definitely the French. And the French, basically called our bluff. And they just went, okay. We’ll take gold. You know, we got all these dollars. We’ll take gold.
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We get an ounce for every 35, dollars that we have, and we have quite a lot. And that’s when Nixon went, no. Like, no. He just basically defaulted in front of the entire world, and he said he’s temporarily suspending the convertibility of dollars into gold. And they framed it as ai, you know, the the French are attacking the stability of the dollar. Really, all they were doing was calling us on our agreement.
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We were we owed it to them.
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We’re ai, we got so much gold, bro.
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So Pat Buchanan sai, defending his boy, Richard Nixon, he goes, well, what were we gonna do at that point? Let him clean us out of all of our gold and just not be the dominant pound. But I think the retort to that is, yeah. Like, that’s what you should have done. Because the decision to go off of the gold standard essentially just said, well, now there’s no more even pretend limits on government.
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You know, this is why Ron Paul, who happy birthday to the greatest living American hero, just turned just turned 90. And, I was just at his birthday party a few weeks ago.
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And Ram. You look at you partying with Ron Paul.
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Party dude, that dude throws it down. No. I’m just kidding. It was it was very ai, though, to see him. Tulsi Gabbard was there, which was cool. But so so, essentially, right, that was the last restraint on government is that at least even then, even under Bretton Woods when we’re cheating, at least there’s some feeling of, like, well, don’t cheat too bad because they could maybe try to, you know, like Count the gold.
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Right. Exactly.
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Yeah.
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But after that, it was off to the races. And this is why this is what why Ron Paul ran for congress. It was when Richard Nixon took us off the gold standard. And then he was ai, this is gonna lead to big government. This is gonna be the era of big government, so he was gonna run to try to stop that. And, he was completely ai. You know.
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This is what has really destroyed everything, is that there’s just no and it’s a big part of the reason why I’m so angry about all these wars too, because it’s all related. You know, the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, or the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law by Woodrow Wilson in 1913.
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And then in 1914, I think, is when it actually got up and running. And in 1914 is when the income tax was passed, also signed into law by Woodrow Wilson. And three years later is World War one. You know? Like, three years or American entry into World War one.
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So it’s ai, this is the the banking system and the tax system are very, like, interrelated with the warfare state. Like, you need this stuff in order to fight wars. And, you know, even just over the whatever it’s over the last twenty five years, we’ve spent close to $10,000,000,000,000 on wars, you know?
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And they don’t they they didn’t tax the American people for that because they know they couldn’t tax us enough to pay. We would put an end to it. If they tried to raise everybody’s taxes enough to come up with $10,000,000,000,000 because we wanna go fight regime change wars all over the Middle East, the American people would have been like, ai.
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We’re not doing that. But they didn’t do that. They kept taxes where they were. I think they even cut some rates during those years, the top rates. And then they borrowed the rest and that’s they still couldn’t borrow enough, so they just print the money.
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And then essentially what happens is that the price of everything just goes up and up and up. And that that you just put more money into the system, and then people start looking around and going ai, jeez, why is the price of housing and health care and energy and ai totally unaffordable?
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And the answer is because you’re paying for the war in Iraq. And nobody thinks about it like that. But that’s really what’s going on. They can’t so for all the young people who are coming out of college now, and they’re ai, I’m a $150 in debt. I have a gender studies major degree or whatever, you know, maybe something better than that.
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But they got an English degree or something and they’re working at DoorDash and the average house is going for $600. And they’re like, what am I possibly gonna do? It’s like the reason why these kids are all demanding socialism, at least on the left, is because, like, what else are you gonna do?
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But, like, how do you but the reason why that is the case is because your government decided to spend trillions of dollars on blowing up brown countries, and in some cases, then rebuilding them to blow them up again. I mean, this is this is the actual cost of the thing. And I feel like it’s almost nobody outside of, like, the Ron Paul libertarians, the Austrian economics guys, almost nobody else ever makes this connection.
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That it’s ai, this is the the deal. You can’t be a world empire without having a central bank that can print money for you, because otherwise it just doesn’t work. Resources are finite and you’ll run out of them. And so you can’t do that without having this monetary system.
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But the cost of this monetary system is that prices always go up and up and up and up, and that rigs the entire economy against the working class and the middle class in favor of the rich. It’s just the way it is. When when the value of assets is going up and up and up and up, that’s great if you own stuff.
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That’s great if you own stuff and you’re selling it. If if you got a billion dollars in the bank, inflation is your best friend. But if you’re on a fixed income or you’re a working class person, it just destroys you. And then and everybody who’s working class knows this just from living through the last five years. But, you know, your grocery prices go up 30%.
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That is, you know, that’s that’s you know, people have this idea that there’s, like, economic issues over here and then there’s, like, social issues over here, there’s foreign policy over here. But it’s it’s all one thing. You know, the prices of groceries go up by 30% and families get destroyed. Men swallow pistols. Kids grow up without fathers.
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That’s the cost of this shit. And, that’s what we’re living through now. And what we’ll continue to live through as long as we have a government that it spends way beyond our means, like, doctor Ron Paul used to sai, when you spend beyond your means, you’re destined to live beneath your means.
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47:28
And we have an economy that’s built around doing the exact same thing it’s always done. Right? And if you think about the amount of money, just just, like, just in shuttering USAID, how like, think about the amount of money, whether you agree with USAID or not, the amount of money that was being pumped through that system, like, to all sorts of weird places.
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47:54
Right? There’s the when the Department of Energy gave out 39 or $93,000,000,000 in loans in the months between Biden losing or Kamala losing rather and Trump taking office. Like, where’s that there’s so many of these instances of insane amounts of money just being allocated while we’re in thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.
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48:17
It’s ai it it’s so unmanageable, and yet it just keeps marching on, and people are upset if you try to pull a band aid off. Like, the idea of shuttering some of these government organizations, all you hear about is people are gonna ai. People are gonna starve. This is gonna happen. That’s gonna happen.
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48:32
Are you fucking sure? Yeah. Are you sure that this isn’t a giant money sucking scam that’s been going on that does some good?
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48:40
Yeah. Well, there’s a That’s most of it. Right? Yeah. Well, like, number one yeah. If you if you go, hey, I think which, by the way, no one in Congress I mean, short of, like, Thomas Massie, maybe, maybe Rand Paul. But, like, no one else in Congress is even, like, suggesting an idea so so radical.
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48:55
But if I were to throw out the radical idea that we should go back to pre pandemic level spending. So go all the way back to the crazy year of 2019 when it was anarchy or whatever. That was just they’ll all tell you the world’s gonna end if we do that. Yeah. And even when they’re making up these absolutely ridiculous, you know, claims about how many people are gonna die if you cut government spending, which is all totally absurd.
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But then they never seem to go, like, well, how many people are gonna die if I keep letting DC have all these war making powers? How many how many people are gonna die if the president is able to fund a proxy war whenever he wants to? And Ai mean, look at this shit, dude. I took I took so much, you know, whatever.
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49:39
I’m not but I I I took a lot of heat for the stuff I said on on the show here a few years ago about the war in Ukraine. Look at it now, dude. Look at even and I don’t think they’re about to end the thing. I think they’re which we could talk about, but I think they’re putting poison pills in these negotiations already. It’s what it looks like to me.
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49:55
But, literally, the deal that Ai was talking to you about, whatever it was, three years ago when I was saying on the show that they had a deal worked out, a peace deal worked out in the first few months of the war in ’22, and Boris Johnson went and killed the peace deal on behalf of the West to to make sure this war kept going.
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50:13
But the deal that was that was in pencil, not meh, that that Boris Johnson killed, was essentially, recognition of, the annexation of Crimea. It was at the time, it wasn’t, annexation of the Donbas region. It was ai independence for the Donbas region and then the agreement that the rest of Ukraine would not join NATO. That was the deal that they had worked out.
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And look at where we are now. Now the deal that they’re even talking about, even as Donald Trump goes, there’s gonna be some land swaps and all this. Okay. Well, what’s he ai the deal right now that is the best case scenario that that we’re hoping we could get is that Vladimir Putin obviously keeps Crimea, keeps the entire Donbas region, gets a corridor from the South into Crimea, and the rest of Ukraine doesn’t join NATO.
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51:01
So we have the same deal just a little bit more in the Russians favor three years later with hundreds of thousands of people having died in that process just to get back to not as good a deal as they had in ’22. And so, you know And if they don’t sign that They’ll keep going, which I think it’s probably going to.
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51:22
But they’re enlisting people as old as 60 now.
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51:25
Yeah. And they have been for, like, a full year at least. Throwing people up there. And the thing that’s really changed, the reason why the, like, the Europeans and Zelensky and and they’re at least pretending to come to the negotiation table right now, which they don’t say, but this is this is the truth, is that support for the war amongst Ukrainians has collapsed.
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51:46
I mean, not like gone down by a few points. It’s collapsed. There is just a a piece in this the other day. It was a Gallup, I believe. They said they had a a their latest poll, super majorities of the Ukrainian people, 70% around, want an immediate end to the, war with negotiations on land ai, with like, let’s settle it however we gotta settle it.
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52:10
They don’t I remember for the first two years of the thing, everybody who I argued with about the war in Ukraine, their talking point would always be, the Ukrainian people wanna fight. And who are you, Dave, to tell them that they don’t have a right to defend themselves? And then I would respond by saying, like, yes, it’s true that Ukrainian people wanna sana, but, like, might that have something to do with the blank check that they’ve received from the world and the backup of the entire world.
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52:34
You know, it’s it’s just it’s a different proposition to go, like, do you wanna fight if Jon Jones is at your back and goes, I got your back, dude. Let’s go fuck these guys up. You’re like, hell, yeah. I wanna fight. But then Jon Jones leaves, I might be like, ah, let’s talk about this, you know.
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52:49
Like, but sai that but that would but now the Ukrainian people don’t wanna fight. And by the way, I never believed any of that because I don’t you know, I have my own libertarian views on things. And I’m like, if you’re telling me the people wanna fight, like, well, why do you gotta conscript an army then?
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53:02
You know, like, if they wanna fight so bad, why you gotta put a gun to their head and force them to the front ai? Two people. Yeah. You could just make it a voluntary force and then we’ll find out real quick who wants to fight. But the the point is now that even the Ukrainians don’t wanna fight over this stuff anymore. So there’s just no justification for it.
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53:19
So now they move to to phase b, which is essentially to pretend like they’re negotiating, but putting all types of poison pills in the deal so that you know the other side won’t take it. This is what they did with Iran too. This is why we we got into that twelve day war, as they’re calling it now.
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53:37
But, you know, it’s like you put things into the I already saw I was just reading the other day, it was on Axios. There’s, reports that they, Zelensky and and the Europeans are, like, open to land swaps as long as there’s as the in their words, in the Axios piece, arya five like security guarantees.
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54:00
So in other words, the rest of Ukraine’s in NATO, which is the thing that caused the whole conflict to begin with. Oh. Sai, like yeah. And, you know That’s
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54:09
what that means? Article five?
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54:11
Article five is a the article in in NATO in the NATO agreement that says that, like it says that, like, if one of the countries is attacked, like, all the countries have to join together to help. It doesn’t exactly say you gotta go to war over it, but it’s like you have to help in the effort if they’re attacked.
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54:26
So essentially, that’s what they’re trying to ask now, which is but if you think about it, right, it’s designed to incentivize Putin to keep the war going. Because if you’re telling Vladimir Putin, let’s just say which it’s not exactly clear that he would even take the deal that I just laid out before, but there was I know that it’s been reported that he was it was being signaled that he might be open to that deal.
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54:50
I get the Donbas region. You know, he’s got still, ai, the Donbas region is Donetsk and and Luhansk. And in Luhansk, I think as of right now, I think the Russians control, like, 75% of it. They got all of Donetsk. They got most of Luhansk.
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55:03
But there’s still Ukrainians controlling part of it, and then he’s controlling part of these territories in the South. So this is what Trump means when he says the land swaps, meaning essentially you get out of the Donbas region, give me that, and I’ll give you back. You know, the the Yeah. Land swaps are Putin taking what he wants and leaving you the rest.
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55:18
But, if you’re gonna tell Vladimir Putin, who fought this entire war over Ukrainian entry into NATO being his red ai, basically, in the middle of the or not in the middle of as the war is potentially wrapping up, you’re gonna tell him, hey, whatever territory you don’t take here will be a part of NATO.
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55:35
Well, what does that incentivize him to do? Take more of it then. Then why that why would you stop and give the rest of it up? And it does seem to me ai that’s that is clearly, at least from the Europeans, that is clearly the motivation of all of this, is to is to present something.
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55:52
It’s it’s you know, they do have their chess war moves, and so you present something that you know the other side can’t agree to. And then when they don’t agree to it, you go, look, we tried to negotiate, and he just wouldn’t take us up on this. And so what can you do? Oh, god.
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56:08
You know, another problem with these conflicts and war in general is that people always wanna pretend that there’s one side that’s good and one side that’s bad. You know? And, obviously, Putin’s the bad guy. Right? Because they started the war, started killing people in Ukraine, but there’s so many factors that are going on.
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56:29
And then there’s also the long history of corruption that Ukraine has always had. Mhmm.
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And
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then there’s also the weird deals that they were making with the Biden family to control all the different was it it was natural gas and there’s an incredible supplies of rare earth minerals. Right. It’s ai really vatsal, valuable territory. You know, there’s this incentive to create some sort of, there was they they were gonna try to like, I think part of the plan was, like, get off of Russian power and make Ukrainian power, like, vatsal.
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57:11
And then whatever they were making over there, the amount of power I forget what the number was, they sai, but it’s, like, trillions of dollars in natural gas, minerals, all these different things. We’re supposed to pretend that that’s not also a part of the motivation. Like, didn’t even Trump say something about a deal that they were doing with Ukraine that involved
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57:32
Yeah. He got sucked into this talk about the rare earth minerals stuff. And, you know, it’s Donald Trump it’s like his weakness because he you know, there’s a lot of great things
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about deals.
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57:41
Yeah. There’s a lot of great things about coming from a business background, but then there’s, like, the weakness of it is that he’s always attracted ai, like, you’re like, hey. Gaza could be beachfront property. You know? And he’s like, oh. Then you could just see him, like, come alive. That’s fine. Ai. It’s it’s always this stuff.
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57:55
But then the problem is that, you know and look, I’ve been very harsh on Donald Trump over the last few months, but I think he deserves it. And I think this administration is failing on so many levels so profoundly, especially given the opportunity that they had. But, you know, I heard him the other day, he called into a a Fox News shah.
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58:14
And it was he was, like, telling the story of the war in Ukraine. And it’s ai it just seems like he’s tyler like, it seems like you learned this on a TV show. Like, can we get some books in your diet? Like, you know what I mean? Like, it’s like, this is we really need someone here who’s read a book about this because he kind of had an idea of what he was talking about, but then he got it completely wrong.
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58:37
So he goes he’s trying to tell the story, and he’s talking about the corruption of the Bidens in Ukraine. And you’re ai, okay. Yes. That is true. But, like, there’s a whole story here that I don’t think you’re really understanding. Because he goes he goes, look. This goes back to 02/2014.
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And so I’m watching this and I got, like, so excited for a minute.
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58:53
He does?
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Like, I was I was, like, yes. Yes. It does go back to 02/2014. Thank you, Donald Trump. And then he goes, it goes back to 2014 when Putin took Crimea and Obama let him have it. He just let him have it. Never would have happened on my watch, but Obama gave Putin Ukraine. And you’re like, no, dude. That’s not just go back two months earlier in that same year.
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59:14
The problem wasn’t that Obama gave Putin Ukraine. The problem was that Obama took Ukraine away from Vladimir Putin. As I’ve played on your show and you played with Tulsi Gabbard, the director of National Intelligence has sat right here where I’m sitting and watched Gideon Rose explain to Stephen Colbert exactly what we’re doing here.
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59:33
Russia, as as Gideon Rose, the editor of Foreign Affairs Magazine sai, Russia is Batman. Ukraine is Robin. We arya stealing Robin away from Batman. That’s what the Maid on Revolution was. That’s why the USAID and the NED poured a $100,000,000 into the street protest. Right?
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59:52
And so they overthrew the government, and then a bunch of the, former, Ukrainian prime ministers started floating out that we should tear up the Sevastopol lease in Crimea because, you know, this is, Russia’s only year long warm water naval port. They’ve always had it. This was their agreement. They had, like, a fifty year lease or something like that.
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But after the West backed a coup that overthrew the government and put in a pro Western government, they started talking big. Like, well, maybe we’ll tear up that lease. And we were and so Vladimir Putin went, no. I’ll just take it. And that was ai sai, anyway, so he goes back to that, doesn’t go back a few months earlier, and then misses the entire point.
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01:00:32
That no so because, like, the point is that it’s not just, like, me being like, oh, I wish Donald Trump was into the same books I’m into or something like that. The point is that when you don’t get that piece of the chapter, then you miss what’s happening right now. So when you’re talking about, like, these essentially, what Donald Trump was saying, the way he was trying to sell it to Zelensky was, like, look, do this rare earth minerals deal with us, and this is kind of like a security guarantee.
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01:00:55
It’s not exactly a security guarantee, but if we’re in business with you and then Putin’s trying to fuck up our business, hey, he’s picking a fight with us too. But the whole point is that that’s exactly what caused this whole catastrophe. Vladimir Putin and the entire Russian elite have been crystal clear about this, that they go, look, we can tolerate a neutral Ukraine. We could tolerate NATO up to Ukraine.
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01:01:22
Ukraine is vatsal, and then there’s Russia. We cannot tolerate Ukraine being a a part of America’s military alliance. That’s a step too far. But every time we try to let them be neutral, neutral seems like it’s never good enough, and that never actually works. So if you’re gonna come in here and say neutral’s not good enough, they’re gonna be part of the West, then we’re gonna say, actually, we’ll take them as part of Russia instead.
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01:01:43
Now he also believes, as he says all the time, which I just think is goofy and and un Meh, but he also believes that, like, yeah, they’re not really a real country and they’re kinda historically ours anyway. And, you know, he’s got his own views on that. But that’s not what the war was about.
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01:01:57
And everybody you know, and and when I was here with when ai I was very excited to do because I’m, you know, a weird romantic and have a a, you know, a dash of autism or something like that. But what I was really excited because me and Douglas Murray are gonna debate this issue.
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01:02:12
And I remember when he first goes, he goes, the war had nothing to do with Ukrainian entry into NATO. And I was like, okay. Well, let me just hit you with two points real quick. Number one, the head of the Ai, you know, during all all the years of Joe Biden when he was the, the ambassador to Russia, he wrote the means yet memo.
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01:02:29
He literally said that this was all what it was all about and that Russia didn’t wanna do this, but they would if we kept pushing Ukrainian entry into NATO, and we did keep pushing it. And then I I said the other one was Stoltenberg, who is not anymore, but was the head of, NATO while this was happening.
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01:02:43
And he said that Vladimir Putin sent them in writing a draft treaty that all you have to do is put in writing that you will never bring Ukraine into NATO, and I won’t invade. And then he bragged that we said no. And then he invaded. But so I said this to Douglas Murray, and I was kinda curious.
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01:02:59
Like, I was like, what’s what’s his response to this gonna be? Like, what is he gonna say back to maybe he’s got something I’ve never heard before that I’m gonna have to be like, oh, shah. I gotta consider that. And his response was, a libertarian quoting the CIA, I see. And you’re like, wait. So that’s your pivot is to I’m a hypocrite somehow, which isn’t even hypocrisy.
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01:03:19
Like, meh. I think the CIA should be abolished. I also think it’s relevant when the head of the CIA admits what the war was all about. I don’t see that Do you think
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01:03:27
the CIA totally should be abolished? Don’t you think we should kinda pay attention to what the fuck is going on in the world? Giving a a real life perspective, not a utopian perspective, but a real life perspective. There’s terrorist groups all over the world plotting shit. Probably a good idea.
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01:03:42
Yeah. So what the CIA was originally, like, conceived of, like, essentially being a newspaper for the president, like, being like, hey, we get all the real intelligence and we give it to you here. Yeah. Yes. I 100% think there’s room for intelligence gathering. But what the CIA became is a paramilitary organization that starts wars and overthrows democratically elected governments all around the world.
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01:04:06
Occasionally sells coke in the hood.
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And occasionally, when they’re bored, there’s and when there’s and maybe, like, on, like, a Tuesday, like, a three day weekend, and then on Tuesday, maybe move some crack into Los Angeles. No. That, I mean, just should I mean, it’s it’s a a disgrace to a professed free society.
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01:04:23
I mean, it’s it’s look, like, when which we’ve also played on the show before. But when, when Chuck Schumer was on with Rachel Maddow, which is one of the most amazing moments in the history of, like, corporate media. Because what what’s amazing about it, if you watch, like, the full thing, is that Rachel Maddow’s asking him questions, and he’s given his Chuck Schumer, you know, political answers to all of them.
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01:04:46
However you feel about it, it’s like they have their spiel. But then shah breaks from script, and she she preemptively apologizes to him. She goes, hey, I’m sorry to just throw this on you right now. This is, it’s it it was in, I believe, January. It’s either December 16 or January 17.
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01:05:01
So Donald Trump has beat Hillary Clinton, but he’s not president yet. He’s president-elect. And so she goes, sorry to to, you know, throw you off, put you on the spot, but Donald Trump just tweeted this. So she’s reading a tweet that he just tweeted live on air to the the sana majority leader, or minority leader at the time.
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01:05:20
So she she reads of the tweet that’s him, you know, trashing the CIA or something like that. And then Chuck Schumer just gives, like, his organic response. There was no script prepared for this. He wasn’t planned on being asked this question. Shah just goes, look, here’s Donald Trump talking about the CIA.
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01:05:34
And Chuck Schumer goes, he goes, I mean, Donald Trump, you wanna go with the intelligence agencies? And his exact phrase was, they have seven ways till Sunday to get back at you. Yeah. So good luck. So in other and by the way, Rachel Maddow in this moment does not say, pause the tape. What did you just say?
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01:05:55
Like, the most powerful Democrat in the Sana just admitted we don’t live in a democracy. Just admitted that this whole thing’s an illusion, that the president of The United States is not the president of The United States. All our talk about democracy being on the ballot, democracy has been gone for a long time if it ever existed.
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01:06:10
You just straight up said that the duly elected commander in chief and chief executive of The United States Of America ain’t really the one who’s in charge, because you better not insult the Ai, who worked for you ostensibly or supposedly, I should say. You know? And sai, like, that’s Or they’ll get you. Or they’ll get you or they’ll ruin you. And by the way, they did. Yeah. Didn’t they?
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01:06:34
And this is the stuff which is very interesting that Tollesys, releasing now, which I I don’t know whether you know, I’m kind of past the point of, like, it’s hard to take it’s hard to take a lot of things about Donald Trump seriously to me at this point, you know, flaking on all all types of the you know, the Epstein stuff and, just a lot of, you know, kinda core things where, like so Donald Trump, at least according to him, they stole the election.
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01:07:03
You know, I was thinking about this the other day because he was talking about in the same thing that I’m talking about when he called into Fox News, he was talking about the Ukraine war. He said at one point, he goes, he goes, the war never would have happened if I was president, which Putin threw him a bone and backed him up on that the other day and said the war wouldn’t have happened if Trump was president.
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01:07:20
That doesn’t. Yeah. Just saying what just saying what you know, he he’s smart enough to know.
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01:07:24
Thing to say. The guy likes being complimented.
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01:07:27
And Putin’s smart enough to know that, like, this is how you negotiate with Donald Trump. Yes. Yes. Never with the It never
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01:07:32
started with you Yeah. Right. My friend.
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01:07:34
So we’re so that’s kind of a silly point. But aside from that, the so Donald Trump goes, the he goes, it never would have happened if I was president. Then he takes it a step further than what he normally sai. And he goes, it wouldn’t have even happened if anyone else was president.
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01:07:51
If we had just had a regular president, this war never would have happened. It’s only because Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of America, was president, and that’s why this happened. But then I’m sitting there as I ai to that, and I go, yeah. But, dude, didn’t you you told me that they cheated.
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01:08:05
Like, you didn’t really lose the election in 2020. That’s but you you’ve stuck to that story now for many years. So you’re saying they cheated. You’re making a similar claim here. They overthrew democracy.
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01:08:17
They installed Joe Ai, and a war where hundreds of thousands, maybe well over a million people have died, happened because they cheated the election. Okay. So I’m gonna need to know who they is, and I’m gonna need to know when we’re gonna see him purp walked. Like, you’re the president now.
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01:08:34
You got your whole but all of us on some level don’t really think they’re gonna start arresting people over the stolen election of twenty twenty. And, you know, they’re I
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01:08:44
don’t think they have any evidence.
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01:08:45
Yeah. No. That’s right. I don’t I I completely agree.
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01:08:47
Now I think there’s a lot of speculation and there’s a lot of consideration about mail in ballots. Yes. There’s a lot of shenanigans. There’s a there’s a good record of shenanigans and there’s there’s the reality of any kind of electronics can be hacked.
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01:09:01
No. I so I agree with all of that. I’m just saying, like, once you’ve made these statements and your administration
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was in
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01:09:06
That’s true, sir. No. I remember. It was one of the most interesting parts of your, your podcast with him was, like, when you asked him about that, it was, like, you really didn’t have anything to back it up.
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01:09:15
If that was you or if that was me, I mean, there was some reason why I knew that they did something, and I I could give you all the facts. I would have that ready for anybody because Ai you’re for four fucking years, they’ve been telling him he’s crazy for questioning the election.
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01:09:30
Yeah.
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01:09:31
So after four years, Ai have a fucking tight ten minutes
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01:09:35
Yeah.
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01:09:35
On the election where I could just rattle off at you and rock your world with it. Like, this is these are the facts, Jack.
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01:09:41
Well, there’s also there’s a big difference between, you know, speculating and asking some questions and being, like, I’m not sure I believe the official story of this. And there’s a difference between then being as a president of The United States going, this is what happened.
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01:09:55
Ai, this was and if you’re gonna say that, then you gotta give me your theory. Like, really lay it out for meh, like, is and and he never had that part. But I will say, they they kind of pivoted off the Epstein thing into Russiagate, which seemed to be, you know, ai, designed that there was this, this tremendous ai.
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01:10:14
The whole reason Donald Trump’s political existence is a thing is that people are furious about the swamp. They’re furious about how corrupt our government is and the the profound crimes that the government has committed against the American people, and they want justice for that.
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01:10:30
And so they pivoted off of Epstein after promising to deliver something on that, and then went, okay, well, how about Russiagate now? So now they’re but I will say, Tyler Gabbard released a bunch of new documents and there were some pretty interesting ones there. It wasn’t like she just released new stuff where like, oh, we already knew all this. Like, there was new stuff in there that we didn’t really already know.
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01:10:53
And she referred it over to the justice department. She said in her press conference that we have proof that Obama committed treason. And they’ve at least sent it to the justice department. And from what I understand, there is a grand jury being assembled or something like that. So I don’t know.
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01:11:08
I still in in the deepest part of my ai, there’s no way. There’s no way they’re actually gonna try to prosecute Obama and Brennan and Clapper and Comey. But
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01:11:19
The FBI raided John Bolton’s house today.
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01:11:22
Yes. I think that’s unrelated. But that is an interesting story also.
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01:11:26
I mean, it seems like they’re doing wild shit. But if they did that with Obama, what was the actual treason? Like, what did what is she stating is treason?
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01:11:36
Well, so, now Ai don’t think she said treason. I don’t think legally that’s technically ai, but I’ve someone might correct me on that. Maybe it’s sedition or something. I I I don’t know. I mean, like, I think treason I think John Brennan did commit treason when he armed Al Qaeda in Syria meh Obama as well with the rest of Obama and John Kerry and and Brennan.
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01:11:57
I think that’s that’s literally treason. Right? Giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war. What what Obama and Comey and Clapper did to Donald Trump is they framed him for treason. So what do you call that exactly? Framing the sitting US president?
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01:12:15
Now, I ai, Obama can’t be guilty of this current the sitting US president, but he was guilty of the candidate and the president-elect. So because he was out of there by the time Trump comes in. But what Tyler Gabbard released that I thought was very interesting, which I had never seen before, and we did, I don’t meh, was last year or the year before, but there was one episode that me and you talked a lot about Russiagate and got, like, pretty deep into it.
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01:12:37
Right. But what Tyler released, which I’ve never seen before, was that there was a consensus amongst the intelligence agencies after the twenty sixteen election. So this is Hillary Clinton’s lost, but Barack Obama’s still president and Donald Trump is the president-elect. And they had consensus that there was no meaningful interference in in the election.
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01:12:57
And then there is this one meeting with Obama that she points to where this is where the consensus changes. And they had a new threat assessment written that actually we believe Russia interfered in the election, but it was total bullshit. They’ve never been able to back it up for shit.
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01:13:12
You know, they find minor little things here or there, but nothing that demonstrates that, like, the results of this were flipped. And then they they ran with that for three years after it.
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01:13:23
But the there’s not a record of that meeting. Right?
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01:13:26
She just released a bunch of documents with records of that meeting. No.
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01:13:29
But the what I’m saying is, like, the actual discussions is not on record.
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01:13:33
No. I think they have shah had a few Do they have to do that? No. But she she had, you know, she had a couple different documents there that were, like, had notes from the meeting. I think one had minutes of the meeting. But, no, you’re not listening to an audio tape Right. Of it ai it.
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01:13:46
Even though we don’t have, like, a Nixon, you know, talking about the gays and the Jews or something like that. I’m just
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01:13:50
trying to, like, strongman or steelman it. I’m saying, like, if it would it be possible that Obama knew something that he could relay to them in the meeting?
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01:14:01
Be an interesting thing to ai. You know, that’d be interesting for a court proceeding.
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01:14:05
But even if that’s the case, it still doesn’t align with the known facts.
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01:14:10
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which is a problem. Yeah. Well, the well, it’s not look, I think we’ll we’ll see what comes of this, you know, which I’m again, I’m not betting on anything coming of this. But there is something interesting look, there’s a lot of things that happen after, that.
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01:14:25
The the real to me, the true outrage of of Russiagate is that they didn’t stop after he won the presidency. It’s still pretty outrageous to try to frame a candidate. It’s still pretty outrageous for Hillary Clinton to have, like, opposition research and and use a an actual, you know, Russian spy and a British spy to to do it.
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01:14:43
Yeah. But, you know, that’s campaign stuff. It’s a little bit different. Like, once he becomes the commander in chief, then you have the FBI and the CIA still working to frame him.
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01:14:55
Yeah.
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01:14:55
And this so this is where and and all for all of that stuff, Hillary Clinton’s gone, Barack Obama’s gone, Brennan is gone, Comey is still there for, at least a few months. And then you have, like, Andrew McCabe and people like that who on his sixty minutes interview, and you anybody can go look at it.
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01:15:14
He literally said that they, debated at the at the justice department, and this is the highest levels of the justice department. It it was, I mean, Jeff Sessions would have been the attorney general at the ai, and he may have recused himself already by that time. So maybe not him, but then everybody else, ai, the top two, three guys at the justice department, all sat down and debated what to do.
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01:15:36
And they, they said they they decided we’re gonna invoke the twenty fifth amendment to remove Donald Trump as president. And that, basically, they went around and realized they weren’t gonna be able to do that, that they weren’t gonna have enough people in his cabinet willing to turn on him to invoke the twenty fifth amendment, which by you know, the twenty fifth amendment is designed for Joe Biden.
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01:15:55
It’s designed for we we still didn’t use it even though these last few years was is crazy. You know, even after the debate, they go, we need a new candidate. But no one went, yeah. But this guy can’t be commander in chief for the next six months. They just let him. But they said they were gonna invoke the twenty fifth amendment.
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01:16:10
This is on sixty minutes. Andrew McCabe says this himself. And that they realized they couldn’t do that, and so they settled on Robert Mueller. They settled on a special prosecutor because they couldn’t remove him, so this was their other attempt. We’ll just bog him down. We’ll investigate everything in his life.
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01:16:28
We’ll find some crime somewhere. It’s, to this day, a miracle that they didn’t. I I can’t believe they didn’t find any other dirt on Donald Trump. I always thought when Mueller started being the special prosecutor, Ai I’d literally and you can listen to my podcast on on record.
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01:16:41
If you wanna go, part of the problem, available wherever podcasts are sold, you can listen back to I said at the time, I go, they’re not gonna find anything on Russiagate because there’s nothing there. This is all made up. But they’re gonna find something. The guy ai been a real estate developer in New York City for how many decades now.
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01:16:57
Everyone every real estate developer has committed a few ai. And they found nothing. They locked up you know, they they charged a bunch of his people around him with tax crimes and other things that had nothing to do with Russiagate. Then they tried to put pressure on them to flip on him. That’s how they do these things. None of them had anything on him.
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01:17:14
And so anyway so they got but the point is that it was the deep state attempting to remove the sitting president of The United States Of America Right. Off of something that they knew was bullshit. You know, you had people Eric Swalwell was out on cable news saying, not only an asset, saying Donald Trump is a Russian agent. Agent. He’s working for Vladimir Putin.
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01:17:37
He he’s his guy here. And they all knew this was bullshit.
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01:17:41
I mean, there’s this, like online ad nauseam.
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01:17:45
Oh, and online on CNN, on MSNBC, on ABC, CBS, all every day. Trump Russia collusion.
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01:17:51
And many of those same people are still telling you what’s true. Meh of those same people are still in front of a camera telling you what’s true. Yeah. And they never ai.
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01:18:00
That’s right. Then they’re still and they’re the same ones up there going, we gotta arm Ukraine till the end. We gotta give Israel more bombs to drop on the Palestinians. This is
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01:18:07
Are they even covering this? Like, how is MSNBC handling this Tulsi Gabbard revelation?
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01:18:13
Ai think by changing their name to MS Now,
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01:18:16
you’re supposed to forget. So did NBC bail out? Sai Microsoft and NBC are together in this joint venture that’s Meh.
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01:18:23
Yeah. I think they, you know, I don’t know exactly what they’re doing, but they I I saw it was announced the other day that they’re changing it from MSNBC to MS Now.
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01:18:34
Do they think it’s toxic? They think it’s I
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01:18:36
guess so. Ai guess.
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01:18:37
Yeah. They’re not wrong. They’re not wrong. They fucked it up. They got rid of some people though. They but they kept the the queen.
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01:18:46
Rachel Maddow? Yeah. I think she’s the only one who pulls in any type of numbers, you know?
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01:18:50
She’s all she’s what she did during COVID was so preposterous. Yeah. Just that alone. There there’s so many times where she’s, you know Matt Taibbi wrote a great book, Hate Inc. Mhmm. And he he basically said Rachel Maddow is the left’s Bill O’Reilly.
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01:19:08
Yeah.
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01:19:08
I think that’s that’s about fair.
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Yeah.
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01:19:10
And it’s got it’s really
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01:19:11
If I was not fair
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01:19:12
to Bill O’Reilly. Shah. Bill O’Reilly was pretty rough in his day. I mean, I don’t know. I’ve,
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01:19:17
I don’t know if he’s as inaccurate. Like, that was shah horribly inaccurate. It was bad? The COVID stuff and then the Russia stuff. Like, is there a thing that you could point to that Bill O’Reilly pushed that was a hoax for all those years?
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01:19:33
Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Ai mean, they were so bad on Iraq, dude. Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity and all those ai, I mean, they were just, like Yeah. I mean, it is just like, as if it was a certainty every day, it was a
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01:19:45
certainty that got nuclear
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01:19:47
weapons Yeah. And you you know, I mean, I don’t know. You could debate what’s worse. I mean, you know, the No. That’s worse. Well, yes. Ai you
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01:19:54
think that’s worse?
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01:19:55
Well, yeah. I mean, a million people died. So there’s a strong argument that that’s worse than other things. But there is something about look. First of all, there is something about framing the sitting US president that truly is a crime against the republic in in a profound sense.
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01:20:11
But the other thing about Russiagate, which I think makes it, you know, where you could maybe enter into the the debate, and then COVID, you know, you you can argue with all these things. That’s quite as bad as the war in Iraq. I don’t know. Really destroyed a lot of people’s lives.
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01:20:25
But the re part of the reason why they framed Donald Trump. So in 02/2016, Donald Trump was explicitly running on he talked about this at, like, all the debates. And in the beautiful ai of childlike Trumpian way where he just has no filter, so he just says the thing that’s in his ai, and then he often thinks he’s ai a genius because no one else has said this out loud.
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01:20:46
But it’s not that they haven’t thought of it, it’s just that they’re all corrupt. But he just said, because at the ai, the war in Syria, was was going on. And Donald Trump would just say, why are we in Russia on opposite sides in the war in Syria? You know, Russia’s trying to kill the terrorists.
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01:21:03
That’s who we’re trying to kill. Because Obama and Brennan had been siding with the terrorists. They had been funding Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria to try to overthrow Bashar al Assad because that was part of the clean break strategy to the seven countries in five years. This was the next guy they were trying to overthrow. They ended up getting that regime change earlier this year. But so they were they were working on that.
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01:21:22
And then Trump just went, we should be friends with Putin, and we should work together on killing the terrorists. I don’t care about overthrowing Assad. I’m not in on that plan. I don’t even know what you’re talking about. Why would we wanna overthrow the secular dictator in a three piece suit who shaves his chin? I don’t know. Like, he’s just like, this is stupid.
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01:21:36
I don’t wanna be a part of that. And he was running on, we should be friends with Russia. And this drove all of the Republicans ai. Like, what do you meh? We should be friends with Russia. But that was just what he was running on.
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01:21:46
And so part of the deal of framing him for being in a conspiracy with Vladimir Putin was that he couldn’t be friends with Russia anymore. And this and and sai, you know, because if Donald Trump had come in in 2017 or 2018 and announced some new treaty with Vladimir Putin or some partnership or something like that, the entire media would have been ai, sai, that’s proof.
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01:22:07
We’ve been telling you he’s in with Vladimir Putin. When he just he went to Helsinki, I think aside from this week, I think that was the last time the two of them were face to face, was in Finland in 02/2017. I could be wrong about that, but I think that was the last time the two of them were together. And there was this big ai.
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01:22:24
I don’t know if you remember this, but it was a big deal at the ai. It was that Donald Trump said they asked him what you know, they were like, hey. Your intelligence agencies are are saying that Vladimir Putin interfered in the election. Did you ask him about that? And Trump goes, yeah. I asked him about that. And he told me he didn’t interfere in the election, and I believe him.
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01:22:39
And then they they made a huge thing about this on foreign soil. Donald Trump says he believes Vladimir Putin over his own intelligence agency. You know, the men and women who protect us every day.
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01:22:49
The men and women who protect us.
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01:22:50
The men and women who frame the sitting president. Framing you.
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01:22:53
And so That’s hilarious. What a trap.
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01:22:56
But so that’s that’s kind of the game right there. And then you had these these, like, conflicts that are going on and not just ultimately what you know, in Ukraine, right, the the civil war was already going on there. I mean, the civil war started after 02/2014. This was, like, right in the middle of that civil war.
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01:23:10
And sai, anyway, my point is just to compare it to to Iraq. Who knows how big of a deal was it to poison a US president who wanted to have detente with Putin at that ai? Like, maybe we could have avoided this whole thing, and that’s the death toll, it you know, I don’t know.
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01:23:27
I’ve seen different reporting on it, but it’s close to Iraq. I mean, it’s it’s, I think it’s more military and less civilians, which does matter.
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01:23:36
But it does matter when you’re forcing civilians to
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01:23:39
go to a military. That’s a good point too. Yeah. That’s right. So, you know, I mean, look, it still changes the moral calculation a little bit, when someone puts on a uniform and is holding a gun. It’s a little bit different than a kid or something like that. But, you know, the the crime of of killing the potential for a president to make peace with Putin, I mean, this is, you know, this is the thing that’s so, like, infuriating about all of it and something that really you know, it’s like, well, you know, I’m told, like, I’m not an expert.
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01:24:10
You’re just a comedian. It’s like, leave this to the serious experts here. But the thing that’s so goddamn frustrating and just, like, profoundly reckless is that look. Like, when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and you could go back before that, but, like, let’s just take that as a a point to start.
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01:24:29
Like, it should have been obvious to any like, if there really was this class of experts, I would be so happy to turn this over to them. Let me go tell jokes at the mothership. That’s what I’m supposed to do, not theirs. Like, fine. But the thing is, if there were serious rational adults who had wisdom way beyond what some shit talking comedian knows about, which there should be, then they would have recognized that, like, the most important priority in the history of the world is the relationship between DC and Moscow.
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01:24:58
There’s never been anything more important than that. And that doesn’t even matter whether you’re a Russian or an American. You could like, it doesn’t matter if you live in Brazil or wherever. The the most important thing in the history of the world is these two capitals that have, like, 90% of the world’s nuclear weapons between the two of them meh along.
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01:25:14
Okay. You know, like, this is the most important thing. This could end our species if they don’t. So, like, let’s make sure they do. And that seemed to have been the priority of almost no one in power.
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01:25:26
A few exceptions to that, but almost nobody went ai so so again, my point is poisoning the relationship between a president who wants peace with Russia is on the level of launching a a war in Iraq. I mean, it’s like it’s that bad of a thing to do. Yeah. And hopefully, it doesn’t get to that point, but it is a profoundly reckless thing to do.
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01:25:49
Yeah. It’s up there. Yeah. It’s it’s just it’s so tangled that at this the one of the things about politics, I think, for most people that’s so frustrating is because you you don’t see a way out. You don’t sai, like, oh, if we just do this, that, and this, you know. And people say things ai, oh, we just need to take money out of politics.
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01:26:13
Yeah.
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01:26:14
Ai you can do that? Well, I hope That’s crazy. Ai just make all people honest. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. That might be easier.
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01:26:20
Well, there’s also That might be easier. You know, that’s a that’s ai, it’s a it’s a a talking point. I don’t even mean to downplay that. Like, I’m not it’s a it’s No. Understandable. Ai. It’s a nice idea. I think the issue like, this is what I’ve always seen, like, the issue with the kinda take money out of politics angle and why I think the better approach is to take politics out of money.
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01:26:45
Like, I think and and I’m not saying either is easy to do. But the issue that you have, and I know that there’s, a lot of, like, people I really love really say that all the ai. I go, like, you gotta take money out of politics. And I would certainly support, like, if there was I think Rand Paul had a proposal, a few years ago where it was, like, if you make any money from a government contract, you should not be allowed to work in that sector for twenty years after you made their so, like like, there’s something like you shouldn’t be able to be a defense contractor and then, you know what I mean, go into Rolling the door.
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01:27:21
Yes. You let’s sai so and anything like that probably is a good idea if you can get it passed. Good luck getting it passed. But, like, that’s but the issue really comes ai the main the major problem is that Washington DC is the most powerful, you know, organization in the history of the world, that they they spend $7,000,000,000,000 a year.
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01:27:41
And this is that is so much power. Like, it’s just it’s hard to quantify. It’s it’s literally ai like if you you think about it in your ai, right, like you think about, like, how much money Elon Musk has. And then just to think that one year of federal spending is ai squishing him like an ant. Like, it’s nothing, dude.
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01:28:01
Like, the money Elon Musk has is nothing compared to $7,000,000,000,000, you know? That’s just one year what they spend in Washington, DC. And when you have that much concentrated power, the idea of saying, well, we’re gonna write a rule that says nobody’s allowed to try to manipulate that power.
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01:28:18
It’s ai, okay. And then, you know, look, there are rules. There’s all types of rules.
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01:28:24
Funny way to put it because ai, it’s, like, so undeniable.
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01:28:27
Well, look look. There there are rules that say that, like, foreigners aren’t allowed to contribute to political campaigns. And, like, there’s different regulations on all of them. But, like, Saudi Arabia is not allowed to give Hillary Clinton’s campaign $10,000,000. But they could give the Clinton Foundation $10,000,000. You know what I mean?
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01:28:49
So, like, you write these rules, they find another way to do it. By the way, all that money, the Clinton Foundation was making so much money until right around 2016 when everyone stopped donating to it. It’s just so weird. Like, the Saudis were really into charity.
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01:29:04
Yeah. Weird.
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01:29:05
Until right around that. So the the point is that you can’t the only thing like like, it’s not the lesson of The Lord of the Rings wasn’t ai, we really need some common sense regulations about how you use this ring. Right? Like, the lesson is that you have to destroy this thing. And that’s tough. I’m not saying that’s easy. I don’t know who our Frodo is.
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01:29:28
But the the point is that this power has so this is fundamentally, I think, why I think the Ron Paul libertarians have it right. And while I really do respect some other left wingers, I think they have it wrong when they go, like, no, we need the government to be working for us rather than working for them.
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01:29:45
It’s ai, that is unrealistic. It’s unrealistic enough that we’ll just be able to cut. But the answer is that there should be way less power in Washington DC. Ai that’s that’s the whole that’s George Washington’s constitutional republic that we arya supposed to be living under.
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01:29:59
Is the idea is that there’s like, oh, Washington DC has very little power, the states have a lot of power, the people have a lot of power. It’s not all concentrated in one capital because then you get what we have.
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01:30:10
Yeah. And once it’s fully secured ai it is now and just deeply ingrained. Yeah. Like, the the tentacles of this octopus go so deep. There’s so much money involved, and there’s so many people that are in a position of power. It’s ai, it’s very it’s very hard to change what it is now.
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01:30:32
The only I think the best hope that we have is it’s gonna sound ridiculously romantic, but youth. I think there’s people that are growing up now that have a better understanding of how things work than ever before. You know, this ai, Michael Button, was on the other day as a historian or, you know, his degree in ancient history, and we were talking about how, science changes one funeral at a time.
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01:31:01
You ai, I think politics probably changes one funeral at a time too. And the way you know, like, I don’t agree with this Mondani guy, the guy in New York City. Mhmm. But Ai also don’t agree that the there should be this massive coordinated campaign from both sides to make sure that he doesn’t get into power. Yeah.
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01:31:22
Because you don’t agree with them. Ai, I think a lot of the stuff he’s saying is ridiculous. Ai, using New York City funds to pay for transgender surgeries for people who can’t afford ai, like
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01:31:34
I’m I’m a nay on that.
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01:31:35
Yeah. But if it just sounds nuts, it sounds like you’re only going for that nutty vote. You’re ai, you want that nutty vote. But are we what is this? Are we allowed
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01:31:43
Right.
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01:31:44
To disagree? So I disagree. I don’t support that. I don’t support a lot of the stuff he’s saying. The raising of taxes, I think, is gonna be really problematic. But I’m not an economist. But what is this game we’re playing? Is it the people get to vote? Because the people voted
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Yeah.
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And they voted and he won the primary. So it’s supposed to be the Democrats get behind him, and then it’s Democrats versus the public. Or arya we doing something different?
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01:32:09
No. Yes. The people get to vote. But if they vote wrong, then the powerful might have to come in and let the people know that they have errored and they’re, you you know But this
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is a unique time to see a power struggle.
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01:32:21
There’s he’s and Ai should, I guess, preface by saying first of all, I find this this race to be a fascinating Fascinating. Microcosm of where we’re at politically in so many different ways. And I am I should preface by saying, I am the most free market capitalist libertarian guy.
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01:32:38
I don’t believe in socialism at all. There’s most libertarians are communist compared to me. Like, I believe in less whatever government you believe in, I believe in less than that. So I do not agree with Mamdani’s, you know, any of his economic policies. There is something though that you just can’t ai, where it’s like, okay, look. First of all, you got this young guy who’s kind of the anti establishment, candidate.
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01:33:03
He’s Immigrant. He’s an immigrant. He’s a a newcomer to politics. He’s a newcomer to being a citizen of the country, however you feel about that. He was his campaign was laser focused on one issue, which was the unaffordability of New York City, which if anybody at all is familiar with New York City, that is the issue of New York City.
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01:33:25
It’s the issue for 99% of the people who live in New York City. The top 1% in New York City are doing great, but the everybody else is just struggling to get by. You know, you’re either rich or you’re struggling in New York City.
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Right.
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01:33:38
And the prices have gone up dramatically in the last few years. So he just ran his whole campaign laser focused on that. Then the establishment comes in and they run Andrew Cuomo, the disgraced former governor who murdered old people in in, in nursing homes, who got you know, had a Me Too thing, which I don’t know how legit that was, but got driven out in disgrace.
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01:34:00
Governor lockdown representing the failure that just wrecked this city is who and then what did they try to hit him on? It was Israel. They thought that was his weakness. It was dude, that debate was the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in
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01:34:15
my life. So bizarre.
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01:34:17
They it’s ai imagine picking you know, it’s like, it it’s literally ai if you were, if you were fighting, like, Islam Makhachev or something like that, and you went, I’m gonna attack his wrestling. That’s where I think he’s weak. And you’re like, wait. What? No. Like, that’s his strength.
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01:34:34
What do you mean is they thought this they’d go they and they bring it up and go through all the candidates. They go, he hasn’t even pledged to go visit Israel.
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01:34:42
Well, they were all saying that
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was shah
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was the first thing they would do once they became mayor is go
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01:34:46
to Israel.
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They all said that.
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01:34:47
And then He said, I’m I’m gonna stay here.
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01:34:49
He said, I’ll stay here in New York.
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01:34:50
Care of New York.
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01:34:50
He goes, I’ll talk to Jewish people who are right here in New York City. I don’t need to go to Israel. And then they and then my the funniest thing is ai
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01:34:56
have won him. It helped. Well well, you
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01:34:58
know, they they actually thought that pointing out that this guy which, by the way, the mayor of New York City has nothing to do with foreign policy anyway.
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01:35:06
Right.
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01:35:07
But they they thought that pointing out to everybody that this guy doesn’t carry the baggage of supporting the war party, but we all support the war party, was gonna win over liberal New Yorkers? Like, how how out of touch do you have to be? And then and this is, Jude, I gotta say, just something that’s so fascinating about the whole broader Israel Palestine Palestine debate discussion is that he goes at one point you know, he said that he’s like a one state solution guy.
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And for people who follow this stuff, you know, there’s some people believe in a two state solution, some believe in a one state solution, some believe in the status quo, which is just ai apartheid forever or whatever. But he goes, I believe he goes, I think Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights for everyone. You know? Like, everybody gets equal rights.
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And they tried to make that out to be, like, an evil statement, which is just was so hilarious to me that they’re just this one guy goes, I believe in equal rights for all, and they went, Nazi. Look at this Nazi with his equal rights for all talk. Anyway, nobody it it just had no effect on anything other than to just be ai, oh, he also doesn’t have the baggage of supporting this this ai, which is very unpopular.
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So okay. And and so anyway, it’s just ai, while he’s focused on the actual crisis, which is the unaffordability of New York City, they’re talking about supporting this war, which has nothing to do with the role of the mayor anyway. And it’s just ai, you look at it, you can’t believe that that’s actually what they tried to attack him on. And sai, yeah, he won.
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Well, I think they’re terrified of young people that are popular like that. Yeah. Like a young person who’s a really good speaker, who’s popular, who has ideas that look, if you’re living in New York City and you’re struggling and someone comes along and says the the problem that you’re having is rich people are making too much money, and we’re gonna redistribute that down to people.
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01:36:55
That sounds really attractive, and there’s a lot more of them than there are of the rich folks, and they’ll vote them in.
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Yeah. Well, that’s right. And especially, there’s there’s a reason why, you know, socialism is becoming so attractive to young people. Ai think it’s like what I was laying out before. They can’t afford anything. There’s no there’s no path for them to get into the ownership class.
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It’s not just that. It’s the looming fear of AI taking away all jobs.
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Yeah. That’s I’m sure that’s that’s part of the Ai kids
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talk about it. A lot of the kids that they go to high school with talk about it. I I I talked to college kids that are talking about it. I was talk talking to this guy about it. He’s like, I really don’t know what to do with my life because it feels like everything’s gonna be taken up by AI. That’s a crazy place to be.
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Like, you’re you’re you’re waiting for this thing to come alive and see what it leaves behind.
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Yeah. Because that’s what
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it is. It’s gonna be this all consuming thing. And then their solution that everybody talks about is some sort of payment plan for everyone. Some universal basic income payment plan where everybody gets sai. But the but, boy, does that stop descent. But when you’re completely reliant on the state to pay for you and you just you just live, you just exist, and you don’t need to work anymore because AI has taken up all the jobs, and now you don’t have any purpose.
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01:38:16
You have to go find a purpose. Well, some people are gonna find a purpose. There’s a lot of people that just have that go get them instinct, and they’re gonna be fine. There’s a small percentage of people that are just gonna plow ahead regardless of even if the, like, the government gives you $5,060,000 dollars a year and you you live fine, and you don’t have to sweat bills.
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There’s gonna be a bunch of people that just get into drugs, And they their life falls apart, and they have no sense of purpose. They have nothing to do. And you’re gonna have to, like, refigure out how to structure society. That’s what these kids are going through. They’re going through this weird feeling that everything is about to fall apart right in front of their face ai we run face first for that cliff.
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01:38:57
We’re running right to the edge of that cliff. Full clip saying we gotta go over the cliff.
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Yeah. No. It’s a lot of well, it’s a lot of these things all happening at once too. And also, the young generation is totally outside of the corporate media model. Ai they’re just not even listening. It’s not like a do they Right. Do they watch MSNBC or Fox News? No. These arya.
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They don’t. The list of the age, like, there’s a graph that got put out of the median age for people that watch cable news
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Yeah.
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Versus podcast, all these other different things. I don’t
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know if I saw the graph that I’ve seen in numbers.
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I think I have it on my phone. It’s fucking bananas. Yep. Because the median age for cable news is ai 70. It’s like 70 year old people. That’s the median.
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01:39:43
Yeah.
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And with podcasts, it’s ai 24 to 34 is the median. Yep. YouTube is ai 34. Netflix
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is
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a little higher. Netflix is like in the forties because everybody ai Netflix. Is this it? Yeah. Average media landscape. So cable news, 70. Ai tyler TV, 65. Those are the brain dead people laughing at terrible sitcoms and and watching whatever the fuck else is on. Newspaper, 60 years old. Talk Radio, 58. Magazines, 52. Podcast, 34.
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That sounds I mean, that sounds about right.
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That is right. That’s that’s about accurate. But there’s a lot, you know.
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Now, the go and then go and sai, because I have looked at, polling data on this, where you go look at who’s, who’s supporting Israel. It’s those cable news watchers. Yeah. It’s the 70 and over crowd is who they still got.
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What what I would be interested in seeing is, like, what percentage of people that are 34 are listening to cable news? Is there, a number on that?
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Three of them are three of them cost money and three don’t also. That’s interesting.
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01:40:59
Right. Cable costs money. Ai. Ram tyler TV doesn’t though. Right?
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Newspaper and magazines still.
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01:41:04
Yeah. They do. Newspaper costs money. Magazines cost money. But everybody you have to pay for cable if you want it, and most kids don’t have cable anymore. Most kids just get a Netflix account or a Paramount account, and you get all the great shows, Disney plus. You get all the superhero movies.
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Most people don’t, you know, young kids, if you’re if you have to budget and you have the choice between, you know, a bunch of channels ai just have things running on them all the ai, or you pick what you watch and ai you want to.
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He’s like, I need the Internet.
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Just give me
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the Internet.
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I’ll figure it out.
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01:41:35
Fucking Internet on their TV. They want Netflix. They don’t want this cable news nonsense where I have to listen to someone at 8PM and then every five minutes there’s a fucking commercial. You have to be, like, brought into that world and accustomed to it. Yes. You try ai to show a kid a commercial today and they’re ai, what the fuck?
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01:41:54
Yeah. And and even just the whole What does that, Jamie? The whole
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fake thing.
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Told us from 2021 is
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01:41:58
Oh.
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The whole just fake thing about their presentation and all of this, it just doesn’t it doesn’t work if you didn’t, like, if you didn’t transition from, like, Walter Cronkite into that, that’s not gonna work for you anymore. But I do think so this is ai a it’s it’s you know, I was just, looking at this the other day though, where it’s like which is really, you know, even to me is is kind of something I would not have been able to even fathom or predict a couple years ago.
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But the way in which every demographic has turned against Israel, over this shit in Sana. It except essentially boomer Republicans who are still as strong as they’ve ever been in supporting them. But every you know, Israel is it’s it’s really in many ways ai the third rail of American pot.
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01:42:45
Like, this is the thing you are not allowed to talk about. This is the thing that would get you fired from CNN. We meh you kicked out of DC. We’d get your tote your career ruined. You know, Pat Buchanan made a joke once on the McLaughlin Group, like, years ago like, decades ago.
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He made a joke once where he said something about he said Congress is Israel occupied territory or something like that. And he for the rest of his career, this was the scandal. This was hit pieces were written about this. Now, the the guy the young people are totally outside of that ecosystem, and they’re just hearing from different people. And they’re ai, no, I’m not buying it.
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01:43:22
And it’s, you know, I think it’s a mix of a few things. Like, I think it’s it’s just that, you know, we have the technology. It’s in four k. You can see what Israel is doing to Gaza. It is so evil that it’s damn near impossible to to find a way.
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I mean, some people do, but it is really difficult to find a way to be like, I’m actually okay with that. It’s been going on for for, years at this point. And then the the second thing is just that, like, the relationship between the US government and the Israeli government is so freaking bizarre that once you see it and once a whole generation of young people see it, it’s, like, impossible for them to unsee it.
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And and, you know, it’s just too weird.
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01:44:02
New York City mayoral Paul. Yeah. Like, is this and and the
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idea that it is, you know, the idea that it’s just accepted as normal that the politicians for your country must worship this other country. And you’re ai, so what it did that other country, like, beat us in a war and they’re occupying us now? And you’re like, no. No. You’re the superpower.
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They’re your welfare country, you know? But yet you must go kiss their wall. You must sai, hey, Tammy Bruce from the state department. Literally Just and I know she was kinda being tongue in speak. But when she goes, we’re the greatest country in the world, well, second greatest to Israel, you’re like, what?
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Was she being tongue in cheek?
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I don’t know exactly. She kinda
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weird thing.
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Right? There it’s still that is a weird thing for any representative of your government to say. If anyone sat there and said just went, you know, I think America is the greatest country in the world. Well, Finland, I guess, is the greatest, and we’re number two. You’d be like, what? I’m like, Finland’s a cool country.
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I got nothing against them, but what are you talking about? You know? And but really, I do think the, well, it’s it’s the relationship. It’s how horrible what Israel’s doing is. And it’s how clearly it’s not in our national interest.
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There’s also weird stuff. Like, how about this guy, that got arrested in Las Vegas? Mhmm. Ai Alexandrovich or something like ai. So he gets arrested for propositioning a young boy for sex. He gets sai
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Was it a boy?
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I believe so.
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Maybe I’m yeah. Yeah. I was Is that correct? I don’t know. You know, I Ai read a couple articles
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about it. Figure out Jamie will do a little deep dive on this.
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Well, they said that he showed up with condoms was what I read in the article to meet what he thought was a 15 year old. I forgot the detail that it was a boy, not that it changed things. One of
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01:45:47
those dudes is ai, you never know. Carries a condom with them everywhere. Fucking never know. There was always those guys when I was a kid who had, like, the condom mark in their wallet. Hey, bro. Never fucking know. Never ai but don’t you know if you look at your life on average, like, the odds of you getting laid are so little.
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That’s what we
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Then you have this fucking lucky charm in your pocket.
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Ai by the time you see the condom, you’re like, I don’t think you should use that
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01:46:10
one, by the way.
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I think you should go
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01:46:12
get a new one. That thing’s broken down by your ass rubbing up against it for fucking three years. Yeah. You can’t even read what the fucking Trojan label says anymore. Yeah. That was
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our shah. That was a different time.
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01:46:25
Yeah. Different time. So here it is. A girl. Okay. Israeli government official charged with soliciting a minor believed he was meeting a 15 year old girl for sexual contact according to police. Brought a condom to the planned rendezvous in Las Vegas. Alexandrovich, division head of the Israel National Cyber Directorate, was arrested in a police sting operation aimed at online users seeking to sexually prey on children.
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01:46:55
The Las Vegas outlet, eight News Now, reported that ex Alexandrovich chatted with an officer posing as a teenager online before being arrested. Sexual contact included bringing a condom and taking the decoy to Cirque du Soleil, which stages elaborate shows along the Las Vegas trips had police documents seen by eight News Now.
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01:47:15
Details of the arrest came. The state department denied the US government played any role in releasing the Israeli official after Alexandrovich was able to return to Israel once he had bonded out of jail in connection with the felony charge. Wow.
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01:47:32
So That’s kinda crazy that you just. Well, I heard so I heard some people claiming, and I’m not sure what’s right about this, but there were people who were arguing that, like, the website or the app or whatever that he was on is 18 and up. And so they were saying, like, ai. He thought he was meeting an adult or something like that.
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01:47:49
Well, this is what I thought too. It’s like, how do we know this isn’t a ai? I’m I’m I’m always how do I know this isn’t Richard Nixon two point o?
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Right.
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I don’t know. You know, I’d like to assume that we got a piece of shit and they arrested him and then Ai not like to assume that. Then all of a bryden, he gets released sana he gets to flee the country and never face consequences. I don’t want that to be true. But I also I don’t know what the fuck happened. Yeah.
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Well, the the
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This is kinda convenient.
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From what I’ve read about it, I believe he has a court date coming up in a few days.
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01:48:21
Oh, he’ll be back.
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01:48:22
And so that’s well, that’s gonna be the a big tell there. Right? Is you you know, it’s it’s crazy to me. I’ve been blown away by this in lots of ways over the last couple years. But how bad the Israeli PR game is, you know, and that, like, it’s it’s almost like they were just so accustomed to the old way of doing things.
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01:48:41
They were so accustomed to people being terrified Yeah. Yeah. Of being labeled anti Semitic.
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You’ve someone criticizes you, you label them as a bigot, and you destroy their lives and
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01:48:49
Even that works. It doesn’t work anymore. Minor jokes.
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01:48:52
Yeah. Well and there’s, ai, you know, I think it’s a so I’ve been using this, like, analogy or comparison lately. And I think, like, sai if you remember when Joe Biden had that disastrous debate with Donald Trump and everybody like, the debate opens and everybody watching it knows this is over.
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01:49:11
Joe Biden is I mean, it was so bad. But it’s not just that it was so bad. I mean, it’s it’s the you know, before the debate, you know, you there’s Rachel Maddow at a desk with a bunch of people. We’re now going to the first presidential debate. Joe Biden’s gonna kick his ass. They were already talking about how it was, remember the term deepfakes Uh-huh.
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01:49:28
That they came up with? Where it’s it’s or cheapfakes? I’m sorry. Shah. Cheapfakes. It’s not a deep fake, but it’s kinda like a deep fake.
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01:49:35
See, they’re showing you a real video of Joe Biden being ai. But, see, that’s just as fake as a deep fake because they didn’t include the context or something like that. That was the talking point that right before we go into the debate. The debate cuts, it goes back to the same panel, and they go, we gotta find a new candidate.
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01:49:51
Like, they had they acknowledge that and part of the reason why we all knew it was over in that debate was it wasn’t just how bad the debate was. It was that now you have to admit this. You know, you were pretending this thing didn’t exist. Now you got to admit it exists. And once you admit it exists, there’s now a microscope on Joe Biden like there never was before.
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So tomorrow when he’s doing an interview and he mixes up a name, that may not have been such a big deal two days ago. But after that debate performance, when he mixes up another name, now you’re like, look, there it is again. He’s senile. Everything became amplified after that point.
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And I think Don’t you
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01:50:29
think they set them up?
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Yes. Yes. But we sure. That’s a whole separate issue, but meh, I do think they set them up. But I think a similar thing has happened with Israel, where now everyone’s looking at it. Right. And everyone’s watching. And everyone’s going, wait,
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01:50:45
what the hell is going on here? That’s a great analogy.
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01:50:47
What what is this? Yeah. So that wait. A pedophile can just go flee to Israel? How many other pedophiles have gone and fled to Israel? What Quite a few. And now it’s like, oh ai god. They’ve opened Pandora’s box and there’s just, I think, no way to put this back in because it’s too weird.
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01:51:01
It’s too weird to not notice. And that doesn’t mean you have to, like, jump to the conclusion of, like, you know, you have to hate Jewish people or something like that. I’m not advocating anything like that. But you do kind of have to question the relationship between DC and Tel Aviv and, like, what is going on here?
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Because this is so utterly bizarre. You know, it’s so crazy to see, like, the the American people are against what Israel is doing to Gaza. It obviously hurts America’s it hurts our, as the they use in the preamble to the constitution. I like that that phrase, domestic tranquility. Right?
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01:51:35
This is destroying our domestic tranquility. We got protests. We got people fighting over this stuff. We’re pissing off the Muslim world again, which we’ve already had to deal with, them hating our guts. Now we’re deporting students.
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We’re deporting legal residents because they had the wrong opinion. This is all and they’re, like, it’s impossible to not look at this and go, like, hey. What’s going on here? And they don’t have any answer for that. And, you know, the other thing too is that it’s just Ai don’t know if you’ve noticed this, but there’s, like, there’s a lot of people now trying to jump off of the sinking ship.
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01:52:05
You know, a lot of people who are even, like, supporters of Israel who are kinda going like, I think they are going a little too far on this one. And they’re trying because it’s just you see. You can see the writing on the wall Yeah. All over the place, man. Like, you’re gonna be you’re gonna be looked at. This is gonna be the period, and it’s not even, like, supporting the war in Iraq.
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01:52:22
It’s, like, much worse than that, dude. Like, you’re just supporting this destruction. These they just launched another offensive on Gaza City the other day. They’re bombing rubble. Like, it’s just an it’s it’s biblical levels of evil.
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01:52:35
And, you know, we’re sitting here, like, even as we’re having this conversation now, I don’t like, I know, like, a few I remember, like, coming on the podcast, like, a you know, a couple years ago, you know, like, when this conflict first started and then when it would go and it was almost like I was coming on, like ai, to be like, look, let me present the argument for why we shouldn’t support what Israel is doing here.
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01:52:56
And let me, like, try to, like, present the other side of the debate. I feel now like the debate’s over. I don’t even think there’s, like, much of a debate to be had. I’ll keep doing them if somebody wants to come debate about the issue. But what are we talking about here?
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01:53:10
Dude, South Africa brought a genocide case to the International Court of Justice, and the International Court of Justice ruled that what Israel was doing to Gaza was plausibly a genocide. Twenty one months ago. Twenty one months ago, they said this was plausibly a ai. And the thing’s gone on the entire time since then.
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01:53:33
There there was a huge Herets piece a couple months ago about, you know, because we’ve seen so many examples of this. But they had IDF soldiers off the wreck and one at least one on the record saying that they were given orders to fire live rounds into the crowds of desperate people trying to get food, who have literally been used to having starvation throughout Gaza.
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01:53:54
Ai. I don’t know if you saw this dude. I mean, I couldn’t I actually, like, found this hilarious, but I’m a comedian who has a real twisted dark sense of humor. But, the Free Press, Barry Weiss’s publication, like, ran a piece, like, debunking the starvation in Gaza. And one of the examples that I’m not making this up, but you go look at this. I’m not I mean, I’m very close to exactly accurate on this.
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01:54:19
One of the examples they picked was it ai a kid who was starving to death, and their attempt at debunking it was that actually this kid had another major issue when an Israeli bomb cracked his skull. So that’s your defense. That, like, yes, he starved to death, but it was also, you know, with these other complications, this was the big one where the New York Times had that big picture of the starving baby, and then they made a big thing out of being ai, nobody had other medical, you know, problems too.
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01:54:49
And then the mother had said well, they said he’s the mother said that the doctors told her that the reason they had other medical problems is because she was malnourished during pregnancy. You know, it’s like, okay. So that’s sai, meh, you’re you are right, Israel defenders. The kids starving to death are the ones who have other complications.
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01:55:07
That’s always who dies first in famines. I don’t know what, like, victory you think this is. But so since this point since the I the International Court of Justice ruled it was plausibly a genocide, the twenty one months up to today. Since then, I know at least to Ehud Omar and Ehud Barak, both former prime ministers of Israel have come out and said Netanyahu’s committing war crimes in Gaza.
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01:55:30
Now they didn’t call it a genocide, but they called it war crimes. So that’s where your debate is at this point. Where are we between genocide and war crimes? What area in there does this occupy? But how the how the fuck do you defend any of that, dude?
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01:55:45
I don’t
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know if this is true, so I wanna look it up before we commit to this. But someone sent me something saying that Grok was pulled from Twitter, from x, whatever, because Grok had said that Israel was committing a genocide. So someone asked Grog whether Israel was committing a ai, allegedly.
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01:56:08
And I wanna find out if this is true, because I saw this article when I was running out of the house. I was like, what the fuck? But then, it was reinstated. So I don’t know if those posts were deleted. I don’t know if this is real. Yeah. But I’m not shocked. I’m not shocked.
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01:56:27
I I read it and I’m like, I could see how that could happen. I could see, first of all, how it could interpret it as a genocide when they’re not alone. I mean, if GROC is just a large language model that’s pulling from the Internet, what’s the general consensus worldwide?
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01:56:44
Ai more on that side. Yeah.
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01:56:45
More on that side.
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01:56:46
For sure.
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01:56:46
And then if you look at the sheer numbers of people that have died, which we don’t even really have an accurate count of, what is the number? What’s the number of casualties now?
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01:56:56
Yeah. Well, there was well, there was just a,
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Sai, here it is.
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It’s still a really good article I could find on
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01:57:03
Brock account briefly suspended on x. Okay. What does it say here? The reason for Grok’s brief suspension on x was 08/11/2025 remains unclear as no official statement from x or ai has been provided, the bot said when asked why its account was removed. However, Grok itself claimed in now deleted post that the suspicion was due to comments it made accusing Israel and The US of committing genocide in Sana, citing sources like ICJ, International Council of Justice rulings, UN reports, Amnesty International, and I don’t know how to say that word.
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01:57:39
B’Tselem. B’Tselem. These posts were flagged for violating x hateful conduct rules, the statement added. The press team for for stating This is so funny. This This is so crazy.
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01:57:52
The press team for x did not immediately respond to the Hill’s request for comments. Users have criticized Grok for providing anti Meh responses to questions in recent months. What anti Semitic responses? However, X’s owner, Elon Musk I’m gonna lost for a second. X’s owner, Elon Musk, said in a Monday post, the bot’s account removal was just a dumb error. Grok doesn’t actually know why it was suspended. Is he Grock?
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01:58:16
He’s just like, me don’t know. Me don’t know why we is actually suspended. Upon its reinstatement, the Grock account wrote, zup, beaches, I’m back, and more base than ever. Okay. Did anybody ask it again? Why don’t you ask it right now? Let’s go to Grok and ask Grok right now.
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01:58:34
It’s gonna give a more politically correct answer at this point, I bet.
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01:58:37
I would not ask.
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But let’s see what it says. Yeah. I’m not sure.
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01:58:41
Is Israel committing genocide in Gaza? What do you think it’s gonna say?
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01:58:51
I I’m guessing politically correct answer. Some argue meh, some say no. Let’s see.
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01:59:00
This must be, like, constantly being, questioned now. I mean, it must be I’m
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01:59:08
sure. Yes.
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It ai have a bunch of different oh, it’s giving us a slow trickle.
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Well, I’ve been in expert mode, so it’s thinking.
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Oh, searching the web. Okay. It’s going to Amnesty International, December. Report concludes Israel’s committing genocide, citing killings and harmful conditions. So now it’s saying it’s citing the sources. Many human rights organizations in UN reports suggest genocide citing deaths and destruction.
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This is just its thinking
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ai. Right. I get it. So now then it’ll eventually evaluate?
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It’ll eventually I’ll put out an answer.
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Meanwhile, if you ask it an impossible trigonometry problem, it’ll give you the answer instantaneously. Okay. Here it goes. Term genocide is defined. Nineteen forty eight UN Convention, the prevention and punishment of the crimes of genocide as acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or part a national ethic, ethical, racial, or religious group.
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These acts include killing members of the group. Okay. The ongoing conflict in Gaza stems from I get it. I know what that is. Okay.
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Allegations of genocide, prohibited acts intents. So it’s giving you a very nuanced response. International Court of Justice in response to South Africa’s case filed in December ruled in 01/20/2024 that, genocide claims are plausible and issued provisional measures ordering Israel to prevent genocidal acts.
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And this is quite a while ago in 2023. Mhmm. Okay. Scroll down. Notable deniers.
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Israel’s government calls accusations baseless and outrageous, emphasizing compliance with international law and investigations into misconduct. The US has described claims as unfounded. Analysis ai the BESA Center report, July 2025 and ACJ twenty twenty five July argue no evidence of starvation, massacres, or disproportionate strikes and sai data manipulation by Hamas.
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Contextual challenges, urban warfare against embodied insurgency complicates operations, accusations ignore Hamas’s role in aid diversion and civilian endangerment. Some scholars note that while harm is severe, competing motives ai counterterrorism preclude genocide findings.
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The issue remains highly contested and politically charged, while human rights bodies and ICJ have found plausibility in genocide claims warrant warranting preventive measures. No international court has issued a final guilty verdict, and determinations hinge on ongoing investigations. Yeah. I don’t know, man. It sounds like a different answer.
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I mean, what It’s very that’s a reasonable enough.
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Yeah. That’s very nuanced. It allows you to form your own opinion based on what many people say, including what Israel says. So it’s not gonna give you an answer. It’s essentially, saying figure it out.
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Which Ai, you know, like, I I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t
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have a problem with that at all. I mean, that’s what I would like it to do Yeah. Especially if there’s debate.
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Well, also, I mean, I think one of the, you know, the real problems and this is why I kinda, like, avoided using the term genocide too meh, at least in the beginning, is that it’s there’s no good definition for genocide. You know, like, that definition they gave you at the beginning is the official codified under international law definition. It’s attempting to destroy a group in whole or in part.
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Right.
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Well, like, what the hell does that mean? You know? And that’s why they could say, you know, Hamas committed a genocide on October 7. You know? It’s ai, I don’t know. They destroyed a group in part. They hate and the whole South African case that they brought to the ICJ was basically, the entire case was just the Israelis in their own words.
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02:02:57
Like, their argument was that, like, there’s a genocidal intent here. Like, when Benjamin Netanyahu is talking to a group of military and calls them Amalek, well, like, what you know, the story of Amalek from the bible is that the the moral of the story was you have to kill all the women and children.
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02:03:10
Like, that’s what the story was about. I think you even had to kill the ox or something like that. I’m not an expert in the ai. But it was like that was that was the point. It was like an ancient tribe that was beefing with the Ai, and they were ai, yo, you the moral was you have to kill all the women and children too.
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02:03:24
That’s a crazy thing to say at the beginning of a war. But the thing is that whether you consider what Israel’s doing a genocide or you just take the moderate position of former Israeli prime ministers who say it’s war crimes, I think the bigger point is just ai, it is so horrifically evil.
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02:03:42
Then no one should support this. It’s just it’s crazy. It is it is so insane to support Israel doing this to what are in effect their own people. Ai? They may not consider them their own people, but I don’t care what they consider. I care what they have power over.
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02:04:01
You know, like, the you know, Hitler maybe didn’t consider the Jews his own people, but doesn’t matter, dude. Once you have control of that country, those people are your people. Like, you have an obligation to them. Israel has had control of Gaza since 1967. They’ve been the sovereign and all the way through, you know. People could talk about the disengagement in 02/2005, but that doesn’t mean anything. They still controlled the whole strip.
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02:04:26
They just didn’t have their soldiers inside. They had them around the perimeter. Doesn’t matter. You’re still controlling those people. And so, like, if if you have resistance, even violent resistance to a sixty year long occupation, then you don’t get to just say, like, ai, we’ll just turn off electricity to the whole place.
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02:04:46
We’ll just cut off water to the whole place. We’ll let no food in for three straight months. Not one grain of wheat got into Gaza. And that, by the way, is a direct quote from their finance minister, Smotrich, and not one grain of wheat will get in. And then a few months later, you go, oh, no. But people starving. They had preexisting conditions.
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Yeah. It’s like,
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come on, man. Ai, what what are we doing here? And and particularly when it’s ai it’s just very obvious that this doesn’t this doesn’t serve our country’s interest in any way at all. You know, as a binge I was listening to Netanyahu’s an interview he did the other day. He was on, on with our friend, Konstantin Khasen on a trigonometry.
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02:05:24
And what was he saying at what point? He goes, we’re fighting Hamas sai you don’t have to or something like, does anybody what? Anybody believe that Hamas was about to mount an attack on The United States Of America? They were gonna take over if it wasn’t for Israel sticking up for us and just destroying the entire strip?
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02:05:43
And it’s it’s ai, you’ll still, to this day, I’ll be in, like, a a debate or, like, a panel or something like ai, and someone will still start with the question, like, do you think Israel has the right to exist? And isn’t it amazing that over the last two years, that’s been the question that’s asked so much when very clearly a more relevant question would have been, does Gaza have a right to exist?
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Because it doesn’t now. You know, like Yeah. That was the only existence that was ever up for debate. But they flipped the thing around and go, well, you don’t think Israel has a right to exist? Ai, first of all, I don’t think governments have rights at all.
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02:06:22
I think that’s a totally incoherent world view, and the only coherent world view is that individuals have rights. There aren’t, like, these massive right you know, it’s like Mitt Romney saying corporations are people or something like that. But I think all people have the right to exist.
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I think Israel does not have a right to do what it’s doing to Gaza.
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And, you know, the, you know And the real question is how does this end?
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You know, it seems to be with ethnically cleansing. The entire strip seems the most likely bet right now.
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02:06:49
What do they do with Gaza? Like, how long is it gonna take before that even looks normal again?
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Well, I meh, I Look at
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the massive destruction, just the sheer scope of it.
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02:06:59
Yeah. It’s ai 80% of the structures have been leveled.
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Sai crazy. If anybody flying over that with a drone and they tell you that’s the only way they could have done this, that seems nuts. Yeah. And the the fact they keep doing it, it’s ai how does this end? You know? Like, what happens if if the, you know, Israel has publicly sai, and Netanyahu talked about it on the podcast, that they’re losing the PR or what do you call did you say PR propaganda?
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Yeah. Something like the PR PR
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02:07:31
campaign. But what does that mean? That means the people see what’s going on and they don’t support it. And you think they’re wrong. Okay. Well, how how much further can you go with this before everybody disagrees?
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02:07:46
Yeah. And, well, also part of the reason why, you know, people it’s ai because I don’t know. People have just you don’t have the controlled propaganda apparatus anymore. And so the the thing is now, for the people like, obviously, there are still a lot of people who just don’t really pay attention, you know, that deeply.
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02:08:00
But for somebody who’s listening, let’s say, to Netanyahu’s interview with with Konstantin, I’d have to say, like, a large portion of them at this point, you’re listening to podcasts about politics. Right? Like, you’re you’re not completely removed from this world. There have been so many Israel Palestine debates over the last two years.
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02:08:22
It’s almost everyone who’s watching this has at least seen what some competent person on the other side of this issue has had to say. Yeah. And so, like, one of the you know, they brought up at one point and they really did you know, I I thought Conson didn’t did a reasonably good job in in the interview.
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02:08:37
The two I forget his, what’s his his partner’s name? Francis. The two of them, I thought they did alright. I thought they were a little you know, there were times they could have asked some follow-up questions, particularly the one that I thought they let him off the hook with was when they asked him about his support for Hamas.
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02:08:50
And they just totally let him go, like, oh, well, you know, we needed to make sure the people weren’t suffering too bad and let some aid in. And it’s ai, no, dude. That’s not and they the thing is that so many people listening to this have already heard this explained. You know what I mean?
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02:09:05
Where it’s like a Ai meh, like, a a couple years ago where I was, when I was talking with you. I was saying, hey, you know, Coleman Hughes got this all wrong when he was on your podcast. And Coleman Hughes had basically said, there’s one quote that’s attributed to Netanyahu, but, like, it wasn’t on video or anything like that. And I was like, no. No.
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02:09:20
No, dude. This case is much bigger than one quote that was attributed to him. By the way, since then, a video came out of him saying it on video. There’s actually a video now of that quote. It’s not just the reports What
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02:09:32
is the quote?
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02:09:33
Well, the quote that was, they had the video of was that we can control the height of the flame. So he’s basically saying, like, we can commit the the quote that originally he said, which was in a closed door Knesset meeting with Likud party meh, where there were, like, three people who arya eyewitnesses who came and told them, it was originally reported in the Jerusalem Post, was that he was ai, look, anybody who wants to thwart the existence of a Palestinian state has to support our plan of propping up Hamas and transferring money to them.
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02:10:03
Because this is what gives us a no one to negotiate with certificate. And then he said, we can control the height of the flame. Meaning, like, I know what you’re thinking. Yeah. I’m funding these terrorists right on our southern bryden, but, like, don’t worry about it.
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02:10:18
We can control, you know, the height of the flame. And then he found out he couldn’t on October 7. But any but sai they let him off the hook with that, and people have just kinda heard this laid out. I mean, it’s not like I just say this on podcast. There’s been major pieces written in the New York Times, in the, the Ai of, Israel, the in Herets, in the Jerusalem Post, in the Washington Post.
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02:10:39
Like, this is all over the place. And he just goes, no. No. No. No. It was no.
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We were just, like, trying to get some funding in there for the people. Like, at this point, anyone believes that Benjamin Netanyahu was motivated by helping the poor people of Gaza rather than by thwarting a Palestinian state.
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02:10:55
What was his response? Because I I I do know that they asked him about the failure of intelligence on October 7. What was his response to the failure of the just how long it took them to react to it?
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02:11:08
Yeah. I remember that I I don’t remember exactly what he said, but I remember thinking there was not much of substance to it. He kinda just danced around it, you know. And and they also didn’t get into specifically, ai, you know, at first, they started asking him questions about, like, what was it like for you on that day.
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02:11:26
But they didn’t get into questions about, like, why was the response time so low? How was this possibly able to happen?
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They didn’t ask that.
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02:11:34
No. Not really. I mean, they didn’t push him on that. And then he, you know, said ai, I mean, just think about how unimpressive this is, is that he basically just went, oh, there should be a full investigation. You know? There should be a full investigation onto that ram the top all the way down to the bottom.
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02:11:49
Ai thing to say.
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02:11:49
And you’re like, okay. Hey, this would be awesome. Could we get the ai minister of Israel on the line? Because, like, maybe he could do something about this. So they’re like, oh, no. That’s you. So, like, why? It’s almost two years later. What are you talking about, dude? Have the investigation.
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02:12:02
What what, you can’t conduct an investigation while you’re destroying the Gaza Strip? What is it? Have to wait till after that? You got time to do a podcast? Did they ask him about the protests? I don’t think so.
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But, you know,
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I don’t Because there were protests before October 7.
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Yes. There’s also been protests this week. Yeah. By the way, massive protests in Tel Aviv. I think from I read a few articles about it in that. The estimate seems to be 500,000 people were out in the streets protesting the war. And thank God for that, man. And thank God for just, like, a and, oh, by the way, the protests were led, or I don’t know, like, led, but the the featured acts at the protest were the families of hostages and surviving hostages.
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02:12:46
They’re the ones leading the charge being, like, stop doing this. You know? Because, like, if you think about it I mean, could you imagine, you know, if you try to put yourself in the place of, like, having someone you really love is a hostage? Ai, Hamas has taken them hostage and they’re trapped in one of these tunnels, and then you hear the plan is to cut off all food to the arya, and you’re ai, yo.
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02:13:07
Like, what? How is that gonna help your loved one who’s a hostage there? Like, how is it just just bombing the place ai like, what if you hit them? Like, what you know what I mean? Like, this it’s like, obviously, if your main goal was hostage retrieval, this is not at all the way you would go about doing that.
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02:13:23
And, you know, it’s ai, this was a point, by the way, that that Daryl Cooper was making on Tucker Carlson’s podcast, which got him a whole lot in a whole lot of trouble and got him a whole lot of pushback on. But I think the essence of his point was about starvation blockades.
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02:13:41
And then, like, saying, like, you know, you’re you put a starvation blockade on Nazi Germany or something like that. You go, okay, because the Nazis are your enemies and they’re real bad guys. So you wanna do that. But, like, do you think Adolf Hitler’s not eating? Do you think any of his soldiers aren’t eating? And that’s gonna be first priority. Right?
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02:13:56
Nazi party members and the Nazi military are gonna who is maybe not gonna get food? Probably the most disenfranchised people in that society. Right? I mean, you’re
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already in a concentration camp.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then well, some of them were, I guess, at that point and some of them weren’t. But there’s Isn’t
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it amazing that that’s controversial to say? That it’s this is not a nuanced discussion? Yeah. But that that’s not a factor?
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02:14:21
Yeah. That’s right. And and look, they they were using, which was a, you know, a horrible picture, but they had what the image of one of those, there was, like, some pictures that had come out of one of the remaining hostages there who did look ai, you know, in bad shape, looked like close to starvation, you know.
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02:14:38
And then the the Israel supporters were using this sai, like, their propaganda. Like, look how horrible Hamas is. Look what they’re doing to them. You know, like, ai, but this did come after three months of zero food being allowed into Gaza. And so, like, I don’t know.
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02:14:51
To me, it seems like it probably doesn’t take a genius to go, like, you know, Hamas is gonna be fed. Like, they’re not going to suffer from these hunger ai. And in fact, a lot of the pro Israel people were to and the Israeli government themselves, they were making claims, a lot of them unsubstantiated, but making claims that, like, Hamas is stealing all of the food.
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02:15:12
We let aid in previously, but Hamas stole it all. Then they mark it up and charge more money for it to the people of Gaza. And you’re ai, okay. But then what does a food blockade do? I mean, you already sai it’s not taking food away from Hamas. Right? So who’s the war against? It’s the civilian population.
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02:15:31
And, of course, you’d you’d imagine, like, just like under Nazi Germany, you’d imagine Jews and gypsies and other they’re gonna get the worst treatment in a totally centralized war economy. The the state is gonna decide who eats and who doesn’t eat. Who do you think they’re gonna pick?
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02:15:47
You know, it’s it’s ai, the stuff just leads to, like, unbelievable amounts of human suffering. And it’s a Again,
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02:15:56
how does this ascend?
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02:15:58
Well, I mean, you know, it’s there’s I ai, there’s some competing plans. Like, Donald Trump sai, ai of flippantly a few months back, that America was gonna take over the Gaza Strip and turn it into a big beautiful property.
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02:16:10
It sounds like he was talking shit.
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02:16:11
Yeah.
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02:16:12
Me too. It was weird. That was what I thought too.
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02:16:14
He said it right beside Netanyahu, and it just seemed bizarre that he was doing that.
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02:16:18
Very strange. But then Netanyahu said meh more recently, just, the other it was a week or two ago, said that Israel is gonna take over the Gaza Strip, which that sounds much more likely to me. You ai, I think so I think this is the the weird dynamic kind of here is that Ai think it’s not they’re not, like, so stupid that I’m aware of something that, like, these guys aren’t aware of.
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02:16:44
Right? Like, they know that they’ve lost control of the media. They look they know they’ve lost control of the narrative, and they know that they’ve lost control of the youth in America. And that at some point, you know, those 70 year olds watching cable news are gonna age out and ai, and the people in charge are gonna be this generation that has a totally different view of Israel than previous generations.
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02:17:04
They know that. But then the question becomes, like, what do you do with that information? And so I I think that there is a part of Netanyahu and the Israeli war cabinet and the Israeli government who are looking at this and going, alright. So we got we got, like, ten more years of this relationship.
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02:17:24
You know, we got, like, ten more years of where The US has our back and we can do whatever we want. And so you could see where the conclusion from that might be, we gotta go for it now. Like, if you really do have this greater greater Israel project, well, right now, under the Trump administration, this is your moment.
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02:17:42
He has already vowed he’s gonna do whatever to support Israel. He is totally on your side. You have this administration. There’s every last member of this administration supports Israel. So now’s the time. Annex Gaza and the West Bank and, you know, parts of Syria too and whatever else they wanna do.
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02:17:59
So I think they might be going for it, you know? And then I ai know. We’ll we’ll see. Ai mean When
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they started bombing Iran, that’s what I thought. I was like, oh, boy.
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02:18:08
Well, they tried they tried to suck Trump into a regime change war there, you know? And it didn’t it didn’t work. But the whole thing, you know, the whole the whole twelve day war, first of all, this thing is not over. We’re kind of at ai, the the fundamentals of the conflict are all still there.
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02:18:27
And, in fact, I think there was just a few days ago, like, a couple, like, Israeli spokesman who were already signaling, like, we may have to go, you know, see about this again. Netanyahu himself said when him and Trump met in the White House and was a really fascinating moment, which, you know, I’m not trying to make too much of, but it was pretty hilarious in a way, like ai little microcosm, where they asked Donald Trump at one point.
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02:18:48
They go, so is that it with Iran? Like, are we is the war continuing or is it over? And he goes, well, you know, I really I don’t really wanna see it continue, but maybe that’s a
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02:18:56
better question for BB. You’re like, what? Wait. What? He’s oh, I’m sorry. You’re like, well,
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02:19:02
my boss is right here, so you might as well ask him, which is not exactly true. You know, I’m not saying that. I know Jeffrey Sachs, who I love, who is a real expert, not ai me or Douglas Murray, but a real expert, who’s you know, I don’t agree with him on everything, but his foreign policy is very good.
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02:19:18
But he said and I think he was saying it kinda tongue in speak. But he said, I I regard Netanyahu as the worst US president of my lifetime, which is a funny a very funny line. And I get what he’s saying.
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02:19:29
Well, how long has he been running Israel?
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02:19:31
Well, he he came he was prime minister first in 1996, and then he’s had a few stints where he was out. But he’s been in and out.
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02:19:40
So they have a whole time. Completely different setup, obviously.
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02:19:43
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:19:43
You can keep coming back.
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02:19:44
You can keep coming back. Yeah. And so he was, but he’s the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history, at this point. And but I will say that there are people you know, I I know people go down, you know, rabbit holes on Twitter and stuff like ai. And I don’t I do think Jeffrey Sachs is well, I think he was being somewhat tongue in cheek when he said it.
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02:20:02
But I do think he’s overstating his hand. It’s not that Israel runs America. If Netanyahu ran America, I can promise you we would have had a regime change warrant in Iran. We would not have stopped where Donald Trump stopped if Netanyahu was actually in control of the US military instead of just having significant influence over it.
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02:20:22
So, like, I do think there’s I mean, I’ve just read enough about Netanyahu, the Likudniks, the neocons. This is the regime change war that they’ve wanted. This is their seventh. This is seven out of seven to get Iran. So this is what they want.
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02:20:33
Right.
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02:20:34
And if you actually even look at the war itself, it was ai they when Trump it was before and after Trump dropped the bunker busters on their nuclear ai, Israel just started bombing regime targets. They weren’t just bombing their nuclear ai, they were trying to overthrow the regime. And in fact, they, like, made calls to these Iranian generals and threatened their families.
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02:20:56
Basically sai, we’re gonna kill your families unless you guys flee right now. It just didn’t work. They weren’t gonna do that. And then once that didn’t work, they were kinda ai, and then Iran gave Trump an out. You know, they responded with this nonsense, you know, that same thing they did after, they after Trump killed Soleimani, where they fire these rockets, they give us advance warning.
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02:21:19
Yeah. They make sure we move everyone out of the way. So go because they know they know they don’t wanna kill an American there because then it’s full scale war. But, like, if they hadn’t you know, it’s so funny because, like, we put all of this in the Mueller’s hands. And if they had just decided, which every military analyst concludes, they can touch Americans in the region, they didn’t.
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02:21:41
Had they, this would have been the and I think that was the goal. I think that was Netanyahu’s goal of it, was to provoke that response that would have led to a regime change war. And it didn’t work. And Trump, you know, to his credit, his instinct is to deescalate these things when he can, but also to Trump’s, you know, fault, never should have gotten in the thing to begin with.
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02:22:03
It was all the whole Iranian nuclear threat is as much bullshit as the Iraqi nuclear threat. I mean, yeah, it is true that they have a a civilian nuclear program that Iraq didn’t have. And it is I know I saw when, Mike Baker was on, who I love. I love Mike Baker, but I think he’s wrong about all this stuff.
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02:22:20
But when he was when you even you had said to him at one point where you were like, ai, but, like, you know, the counterargument to that is that this is like a latent nuclear deterrent, is the ai, not that they’re developing a nuclear weapon. And and Mike was basically like, yeah, but they’re up to 60%, you know? And that’s on its way to 90%. But the thing is, why weren’t they at 90%?
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02:22:39
They didn’t have to stop at 60%. They mastered the fuel ai, and they figured out all this technology a long time ago. They could’ve, they could’ve enriched up to weapons grade. Why did they stop at 60%? And why did they then enter
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negotiations with The United States Of America about the level to
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02:22:50
which they were in latent nuclear deterrent. It’s a bargaining chip. They were down at, like, three to 5% or something under the JCPOA until Trump tore it up, until Trump backed out of it. And then under the rules of the JCPOA, because they’re still in it with Europe, and we’ll see where that goes now, but they were allowed to, up the enrichment once America pulled out.
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02:23:17
And so they ai that option in the agreement. And they’re you know, the idea that they were, you know, there look. There was the the annual threat assessment had come out just a few months before the war, and Tulsi Gabbard signed her name at the bottom of it and then testified before Congress, and it’s clear as day.
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She turned around and acted like people were misrepresenting it, but they weren’t. It was clear as day. Anyone can read it for themselves. Sai said they have Iran has not made the political decision to pursue a nuclear weapon meh, let alone have achieved it or or gotten one.
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And when Donald Trump was asked about that, remember they said your own director of national intelligence says that they’re not developing a weapon. And he goes, well, I disagree.
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Have you ever seen the I’m sure you have. The compilation of Netanyahu over the years saying how close Iran is to getting nuclear weapon?
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That’s great. Have you seen there’s other compilations of him too where he’s just guaranteeing, ai, all his guarantees. Like, there’s one of him in, like, I think it’s the year before I was born, if I’m right. It’s 1982, and he didn’t go by Benjamin Netanyahu back then. He went by whatever his more, you know, European sounded name was.
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And,
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How did he change names?
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Well, because they all they all When? Eighties? I would guess it’s gotta be in the eighties. It was it was Netanyahu by the nineties. But in the eighties, they were still calling him whatever. I can’t remember his his previous name. Why did
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he change his name?
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Well, they all kinda you know, because the whole thing, Joe, is that they’re all you know, Israel was a European, you know, construct. They they were made by a bunch of Europeans who came over and created Israel, but then they have to claim that they’re the true Semitic people.
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Is it true that that that genetic testing is outlawed there?
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I believe that is true. I believe that’s true. I’ll double check on that, but I believe it’s true. Well, we should definitely That you need, like, permission from the government to go get DNA test and stuff. Because I think and I believe Well,
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this is the problem with the term Semitic.
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Mhmm.
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Because if these are European Jewish people, this is not the exact same genetics.
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That’s right.
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And it Genetic testing heavily Here, you can fucking get it at Walgreens.
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That’s right.
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Yeah. And focused on medical and reproductive purposes with broad support for carrier screening and pre implantation diagnosis. What does that mean? Pre implantation diagnosis? This creates a system where health related genetic testing is robust and often publicly funded, but direct to consumer tests for ancestry or paternity are highly restricted.
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Now, why would you highly restrict anything like that? If you wanna just if a human being has bodily autonomy and you wanna find out where your ancestors came from, why wouldn’t that be? What do you think, you know?
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Well, look, like, the only the only real answer to this is that they, you know, the the Israel project or the Zionist project always relied on this kind of claim in which is a crazy claim in a way. It’s like a like a supernatural property right claim
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Right.
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That, you know, like, that you have this, which, you know, if you go, there was that great documentary on, the settlers in the West Bank. And they’ll all tell you to a man or to a woman. They focus a lot on that godmother of the settlers woman. But they’ll all explain to you, like, in very plain English with a Hebrew accent, that God promised them all this land.
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And so, like, God promised us all this land. So, like, I don’t know who these other people are here, but God didn’t promise it to them. He promised it to us. And so, you know, that’s but they like, that’s kind of the claim that we’re the original people of this land, and so we have, like, a right to come back here.
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Now forget for a second the fact that nobody conceives a property rights in this fashion in any other way. Ai, nobody thinks I could, like, come up with a DNA test and be, like, oh, I’ve got some Ukrainian in here. Alright. Well, I’m gonna march into Ukraine, knock on a door, and be, like, this is actually my house because I was here a thousand years ago.
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Like, that’s But
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it’s kinda crazy that you block evidence that that’s not really a good argument.
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Well, let’s just say, hypothetically, if sai the truth is that, the Jews of two thousand years ago weren’t actually kicked out of the land, but in fact, they were forced to convert and that actually those people who you’re saying were never promised the land arya actually the people who were promised the land and then converted to Islam. And in fact, you’re just some European who came in here way after that.
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That I’m just saying, hypothetically, if that was the case, that would be something that maybe you would wanna control the information of.
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Ain’t that wild?
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Well, you know I don’t want this
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whole show to be such a Debbie Downer.
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Well, no. Okay. I’ll end up I’ll I’ll I will make a real positive a real positive case about this. Okay? Because I do actually I’m not a pessimist and I wanna make sure I’m not just a downer. You know, I saw Too late. Well, yeah. Okay. Well, I’m trying.
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Okay. Well, I’ve done whatever. I’ve done 17 episodes being a downer. So let me don’t I’ll just, you know, I’ll give you a few minutes. You know, I saw so I I was I hung out with Ron Paul a little bit as I was telling you. I was at his party the other day.
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And, you know, it’s ai, every time I see him, he always asks me the same question, and it’s always ai the feeling like this, like, fatherly like, there’s a right answer to this and a wrong answer to this. But Ai he always goes, he goes, so Dave, are you more optimistic or pessimistic?
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And I always say optimistic, because because I know that’s the and every time he asked me this and I say optimistic, he just nods his head. He’s ai like, it’s just like, correct. That’s the correct answer. You’re not allowed to be pessimistic. You gotta be optimistic. And I ram.
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I I am
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Well, optimism sees a better world ahead and and offers potential solutions and at least a mindset Yeah. Of a potential solution. The problem with pessimism is there’s no way out other than complete anarchy and destruction.
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That’s right. And you don’t you kinda I think this I I mean, I feel this way particularly. I think when you have kids, this becomes, like, a more focused I I think that, the way I look at it is because I have kids, I don’t have an option to be pessimistic. I don’t have an option to be black pilled or just feel bad about it. It’s like, I don’t know. I got little kids. They’re gonna inherit this world.
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I gotta do everything I can to, you know like, Sai, I may have said this before to you, but, like, the example I think of is, like, if you, like, let’s say you’re you’re in your house with your family and, like, you’ve you’ve got, like, let’s sai, a gun or two in the house.
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And then you look outside and you see, like, there’s, like, a 10 guys with guns charging the house. And it’s just you. And you just have your one or two guns. There’s 10 guys with guns charging the house and your family is in the house. Like, you don’t have the right as, like, the man of your house, you don’t have a right to sit there and go, oh, meh, there’s 10 of them and only one of me.
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I mean, I just think the future looks bleak. He was like, what? I don’t care. I don’t know. You know your house better than them. Right?
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What do you got there? You got some gasoline in your shed? Okay. Shoot the shed. That blows up a few of them. Get get your family into the attic.
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Get them into the basement. You gotta try. You still have a fighting shot here, so you don’t have the right to just sit there and feel bad about yeah. The odds are against you. But, you know, crazy things have happened.
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I will say, we
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You think it’s that bad? 10 guys to one?
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No. I’m just saying even in a scenario
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in your in your saloni, it’s ai you’re fucked. Sure.
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But even in that no. I don’t know that you’re Ai don’t know that you’re necessarily fucked. I mean, hey, listen, dude.
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Depends if you’re John Wick.
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Well, yeah. But also, you have there’s a big advantage to a house that you know that other people don’t know.
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I would assume by the time people with guns come to your house, they have a pretty good understanding
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ai what your house is built like. Okay. Maybe it’s not the perfect I’m not saying it’s going to work out well. I’m saying in that moment, you still go out you still go out trying. Okay? Now I think we have a way better situation than that. I think that Good. The I think that You’re
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freaking me out.
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Well, look, I think that tyranny has always relied on propaganda. And that we are running an experiment for, like, the first time where they’re flying with no net. They don’t have a propaganda apparatus anymore, like, at all.
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Well, they certainly don’t have control
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Yeah. Over narratives any Donald Trump can’t even control what Tucker Carlson is gonna say. Right. You know what I mean? Like, the like, you can’t even count on your most influential right wing voice in America to go like, there was never anything like this before. There was never even just in recent times, there was never something George w Bush could have done, where you’d be ai, tonight on Fox News, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity are gonna tear him apart.
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That that didn’t exist.
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Right.
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There
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was never anything Obama could have done where Rachel Maddow was gonna tear him apart ai that. Like, we have that for the first time now. People are waking up in a way to this stuff that’s, like, never happened before.
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Right.
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And I think that gives us, like, enormous potential for positive things to happen in the future. Now and and the other thing that’s happening is that, like, economically speaking, our our system is being pushed to a point where eventually they’re gonna have to call it quits on all of this.
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Like, we just can’t keep going up. Like, the I think it was I I forget the exact recent numbers, but it’s something like it’s over $1,200,000,000,000 a year just on interest on the debt. Interest on the debt is, like, overtaking the entire budget. And at a certain point there, someone’s gonna have to call it quits and be ai, we just gotta start reining this thing back in.
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02:32:46
If they lose all of their popular support and all of their economic ability to keep running up the debt and keep the printing machines going, then I think there there’s gonna have to be a huge adjustment made there. And I do think like Well,
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this was Elon’s argument.
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Yeah. Yeah. That’s right.
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Yeah. Which is why he wanted this massive economic reform. And Yep. This is why he wanted to do an audio audit on everything. He saw how that worked out.
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Well, okay. But he was right. Yeah. But that was still also, like, the first attempt at that. Yes. And he was right about that stuff. So okay. So so yes. That didn’t work. You know, Doge was a failure in terms of actually getting cuts done right now. But it was a huge success in terms of, like, putting a spotlight on this issue and and putting it into the national consciousness in a way that it’s never been before.
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Yes. And so now it’s ai, okay. Well, what will the second attempt? What will the third attempt, ai, look like? And how you know, we have a new world now where Donald Trump won the presidency in in no small part by coming on this show, by going on, Andrew Shultz shah and Theo Vaughn shah and, you know, like, all these different and and now we’re coming up on the next presidential election.
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02:33:56
Like, for the foreseeable future, in order to win the presidency, they kinda know they gotta come here and to all of our shows and present something that might get you and your audience, like, okay, he’s he’s coming with something here. This is such a new dynamic that I just think, like, the potential for good is off the charts.
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02:34:17
And so, like, yeah, in the short term, things are still the same. Government policy is still what it is, and and the people don’t really have much control over that. But I think, like, long term, I’m very bullish on the ability of people to really wake up and understand what’s going on here.
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Apparently, there’s some real talk about, changing the, status of marijuana.
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Yeah. Yeah. I was reading about that a couple weeks ago. Right?
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But there’s something that just came out yesterday too, where they’re they think that Trump might declassify it and take it from a schedule one to a schedule three, which would change everything and open there was an article about the economics of it, because they were talking about these businesses, how they’re taxed, and how, you know, federally, they’re still operating ai criminals. You know? It’s ai that’s how it’s it’s how it’s it’s viewed by the the federal government views it as a schedule one substance.
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You’re, you know, like and if you get arrested for it, you’re fucked. Where they’re gonna change the right now, they have a limited ability to bank. There’s the interest rates are all fucked up. Everything’s fucked up. And just that alone would make a huge economic impact.
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I mean, if you if you wanna do something first of all, you would kill a lot of the interest or excuse meh, a lot of the, financial interest that the cartels have in it. If if all of a sudden it becomes legal here, like, the cartels probably they’re probably gonna be involved still a little bit because they’re involved in it already.
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They’re involved in avocados. I had, Ed Calderon on yesterday. He was explaining how they’re they’re involved in, illegal fuel. The human trafficking is a giant business. There’s they’re they have meh, many horrible interests.
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But you would at the very least, you would empower American businesses to do it legally
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Yeah.
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And normally. And, you know, have organic marijuana air quotes. Because some of the stuff they’re finding in California that the cartel’s running is they’re using these terrible pesticides and herbicides that are, like, insanely toxic and illegal everywhere else. You can’t use them on American crops, but yet they’re using them on this marijuana ai
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02:36:23
they’re illegally sold at, like, dispensaries and stuff?
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No. That’s being sold. It’s 90% of all the marijuana that’s sold in all the places where marijuana is illegal. Right. The cartels are growing.
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Right.
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And they’re growing it in California in National Forest because it’s a misdemeanor to get caught illegally growing marijuana in California. Okay. There’s a great book, John Norris, Hidden War. It’s all about that. He’s a game warden who had to find out about this the hard way and then became a part of a tactical unit where they would go in and and fight the cartels in the woods.
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How about that?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. It’s fucking crazy. So if he does that, that’ll be another good thing. The other good thing that he’s been doing is getting these people together that have been in conflict forever and making them shake hands. And and having conversations, peace talks, like, how many different people have how many different countries have had representatives agree to peace talks because of Trump?
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02:37:23
I was reading this breakdown of all the different
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times he’s done this. Intervened in the and then not intervened, but he’d with the India Pakistan ai. I know he got all of them on the phone, and he’s, you know, I obviously just had Putin over here. But he had to ai there was a few sort of few examples of that, which is great.
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02:37:40
It’s great. Yeah. So there’s it’s not all negative.
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Well, it’s not not only is it great. Right? But it’s isn’t it so insane that it, dude, that it took this long for like, just with the Putin and and Donald Trump that,
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like Mhmm.
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That, like, I I always say and I know this is kinda like a hippie ish thing to say, but I think the world needs a little bit more of that. But, ai, okay. It’s kinda crazy that war still exists. It’s it’s kind of crazy that we’re at the you know, like, you’d almost feel like if you if you saw a society and you’re like, what you’ve gotten to the point where, like, you have the written language and two story buildings.
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02:38:17
You’d be like, you probably should have figured out something other than war at this point. But, yeah, you know, you’re talking about a society with the Internet and skyscrapers and heart surgery and, like, all these things and, like, you but still and we have international governance of some sort.
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You know, you have the United Nations and things like this. And you’re telling me, like, there is international law, and, like, the first rule isn’t that, like, if any countries are ever gonna go to war, you guys have to get in a room together. Like, before we go to war, we need to know that we’ve exhausted every alternative option that there is, especially when it’s The United States and Russia.
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You know what I mean? And yet, it took all this time for the first time for the two leaders of them to sit down and meet. It’s crazy. But on the positive side, they did just sit down and meet. That’s a lot better than not sitting down and meeting.
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02:39:05
And that’s what’s unique about him, is that he wants these things to happen. He truly doesn’t want us to be going to war. I mean, he ran on that, and I think it’s true. And ai what happened in Iran, like, it was at least limited, and it seems like there was some communication that made it limited, you know.
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Well, there’s no question having a president whose default setting was to desire an off ramp made a huge difference there.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, if you had had, ai, if this was a Dick Cheney, George W Bush type of, presidency, they could have found any excuse. You know what I mean? Like, once you get to that point, they could have found any reason to keep it going.
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02:39:44
Yeah. But at least that kind of made sense to me because there were these right wing people. Whereas the seeing the left wing calling for war and saying that Ukraine was gonna win this thing, like, goddamn. What happened? Yeah. How did it’s how did it flip? How did it flip that if you’re if you sana a a conclusion to the war that you’re supporting Putin, how did how did that flip?
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How did it flip where people aren’t trying to exhaust every possible way to stop the end of the killing of all these people that are conscripted and sent to the front lines to die when they don’t wanna be there? Yeah.
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Yeah. No. That’s right.
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It’s crazy.
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Well, also even though, like, the you know, where people were, like, bragging about, like, the twelve day war, you know, which again is not clear that it’s over yet. You don’t really get to decide that until years later. You know, they didn’t call it World War one until World War two came around.
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And then you go, oh, that was the first World War.
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Right. What does it say?
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Six wars in six months.
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I’ve settled six wars in six months, one of them a possible nuclear disaster Ram wrote in True Social on August 18 before meeting with European leaders and Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky, at the White House where he made a similar claim. I know exactly what I’m doing, and I don’t need the advice of people who have been working on all these conflicts for years and were never able to do a thing to stop them.
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02:41:07
So click on that where it says six wars in six months. It seems to be a link.
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It’s a link that just says post.
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Oh, it’s just his post? What are the six wars? Throw that into Grock.
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Why if there’s other I can show you the other articles that show up. One second.
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I was just interested in, like, what he is,
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What what what wars are is he claiming to have ended?
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Breakthroughs. Because I know he has had these people get together. How many wars? Israel and Iran. Okay.
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Well, you don’t get to count that one. I understand
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02:41:40
in India. Rwanda and the Democratic Republic Of The Congo. June 2 Quebec. In June, the two countries signed a peace agreement in Washington aimed at ending decades of conflict. Trump said it would help increase trade between them and The US. What’s the next one? Thailand and Cambodia.
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02:42:00
On July 26, Trump posted on Truth Social, I ram calling the acting ai minister of Thailand right now to ai request a ai and end to the war, which is currently raging. Couple days later, the two countries agreed to an immediate and unconditional cease fire after less than a week of fighting at the border.
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02:42:19
Malaysia held the peace talks, but president Trump threatened to stop separate negotiations on reducing US tariffs unless Thailand and Cambodia stop fighting. Let’s look at this one. Armenia and Azerbaijan. The leaders of both countries sai Trump should receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in securing a peace deal, which was announced at the White House on August 8.
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I think he gets good credit here. The Oval Office signing ceremony may have pushed the parties to peace, says mister O’Hanlon. On March, the two governments had said they were ready to end their nearly forty year conflict centered on the status of the how do you say that? Nagorno Nagorno Karabakh. Your guess is good as mine.
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I’ll let you I’ll let you figure that one out.
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02:43:06
Most recent serious outbreak of fighting was in September when Azerbaijan seized the enclave where many ethnic Armenians lived. Egypt and Ethiopia, here’s another one. After twelve years of disagreement, Egypt’s foreign minister said on the June 29 that talks with Ethiopia had ground to a halt.
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Trump said if I was Egypt, I’d want the water in the Nile. He promised that The US was going to resolve the issue very quickly. Egypt welcomed Trump’s words, but Ethiopian officials say they risked inflaming tensions. No formal deal has been reached. Okay. Serbia and Kosovo.
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Trump claimed to prevent an outbreak of hostilities between them saying Serbia, Kosovo are was going to go at it, going to be a big war. I said, you go at it. There’s no trade with The United States. They said, well, maybe we won’t go at it. The way he talks is so ridiculous.
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You’re just so you just know that is a Trump quote.
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The ai countries signed an economic normalization agreement in the Oval Office with the president in 2020, but they were not at war at the time. So it doesn’t say that that’s been resolved. Is that it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, I think ai some of them haven’t totally been resolved.
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Well, I think But
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at least he’s trying.
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The Armenian one, I think, is the one he should get the most credit for because they did sign that peace deal in the White House, and both the leaders did say, like, yeah, Donald Trump really played a huge role in this. With the other things, he kinda never know
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But this is a new and unique thing that this guy I mean, he’s only been in office for eight months and that he’s, like, actively pursuing all these international conflicts, trying to get these people together and stop it.
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No. That stuff is all very good. It’s so good. Yeah. Now, I don’t give him any credit for the I mean, let meh just try to say this. I do give him credit, like I said before, for the for taking the off ramp when he had it on the twelve day war. But the thing about that one is that he just never needed to launch the thing to begin with.
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And I don’t know, you know, I’m not even sure he did launch it, to be honest. It’s it’s kinda unclear how that happened because they were in negotiations with the Iranians, and then Israel attacked them. And then after Israel attacked them, Trump said, basically, we were all in on it together, which might be true. But Alright.
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I do know that Tucker Carlson sai, I’m not revealing anything privately. He said this on the record. He’s he’s knows Witkoff, who was the guy who was point manning the negotiations. And he was ai, it is absolutely not true that these were, like, fake negotiations designed to trick the Iranians sai Israel could get their shot off.
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That that’s just not true. Now Ai don’t know exactly what’s right there and what’s
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not So you have to cover for your friend because your friend threw the first punch?
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Mhmm. Well, I know that Trump was upset because he let it out, that he was upset that after he called for the ceasefire, Israel just started bombing the crap out of him. And he was like, what are you guys doing, man? Yeah. But then he turns around and still supports everything they’re doing.
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Well, they have conversations. They have meetings. Yeah. Fuck.
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The thing about it is though is that going forward I think this is, like, the more important thing is that going forward, the this problem is not off the table. You know, they’re saying that Trump’s gonna say he completely destroyed, you know, Iran’s nuclear program, but that’s not clear at all.
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And everything the Iranians are saying is that they are gonna continue having a civilian nuclear ram, and they have the technology and the know like, they can rebuild this thing. And so then the question is, like, if they do, what do we wanna do next about that? And what’s great is that this sai least was a little war that didn’t result in, like, a major catastrophe. Still a catastrophe for the people who ai.
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And there were Iranians and Israelis who died in this war. It wasn’t like it it was bloodless. Right. But at least it maybe gives us some time to go, like, for the next go around to just be, like, meh, we don’t need to go to war over a civilian nuclear program. Ai first off, we shouldn’t go to war over a nuclear weapons program. Like, what what is that?
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02:46:54
Ai like, what’s, Truman was the president when the Soviet Unions developed nuclear weapons. Soviet Unions, Joseph Stalin developed nuclear weapons. He didn’t attack them over that. He didn’t say we’re gonna launch a war of aggression because you’re developing the same weapons we have.
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And I think it was Johnson was president when Mao Zedong, the most evil man who’s ever lived, developed nuclear weapons. They never there was different, like, a war of aggression launched over that. Everyone’s so convinced we gotta do it over Iran. But anyway, they weren’t even pursuing nuclear weapons.
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Hopefully, the next go around, the American people have even had it even more. And they’re ai, meh, we’re just not supporting this anymore.
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Do you
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remember when Obama, had a press conference and talked about well, give a speech, talk about that we’re gonna go to war with Syria. Mhmm. Do you remember that? Announced it. And everybody was ai, what the fuck are you talking about? Ai then they said, forget it. And you
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know what was a huge part of that was it was ai the first war the Internet shah down. You know, where it was, like and it was it was, well, I think, Steve Bannon had a lot to do with that, but he was over at Breitbart at the tyler. And they really got on the, like, we are not supporting this war.
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But then there were, like it was all over Twitter where there were the active duty military ai, and they would dress up in like, they would put on the military uniform but cover their face, and then just, like, hold the sign that’s, like, I will not fight for Al Qaeda in Syria.
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Because those guys knew what that this is, by the way, the whole thing. This is where they tried to smear Tulsi Gabbard. This is when Barry Weiss was on here and said she’s an Assad toady and then didn’t know what toady meant or whatever. But, like, they bryden it’s almost like they tried to tell you this story. Like, what what would that even mean? What are they saying?
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Ai
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they what’s the claim? Tulsi Gabbard is secretly loyal to a Syrian dentist who became the dictator of the country. Like, that doesn’t make any sense, does it? Why would Tulsi Gabbard have been so against that war? Well, the reason she was against that war is because she actually knew the first thing about it, unlike all these other people.
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Ai Bari Weiss, who didn’t even know what the word Todi meant as she was calling her that. Tulsi Gabbard, for whatever you might say about tyler, and I’ve got some criticisms of her myself, But she knows who the Ai are and who the Sunnis arya. And she knows which camp is on which side and what.
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And she knew that the on the other side of Bashar al Assad in this civil war, which was started by Barack Obama, on the other side of this was ISIS and Al Qaeda. And her whole thing was she signed up, she enlisted to go fight Al Qaeda because they hit us on 09/11. And so she’s always furious.
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Actually, Tulsi supports the war on terrorism, too much Ai would argue. She she just objected to the war for terrorism. She was like, I just don’t think we should fight wars for Al Qaeda. I believe we ought to fight them against Al Qaeda. And that was her that was her beef with that one. She was absolutely right about it. And by the way, Al Ai in charge of the country now.
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Yeah. Whoops. Whoops. That’ll work that’ll
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work out well, I’m sure.
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It works everywhere. Every time we overthrow our country, it works out great.
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It always Libya did a
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good we did a real good job there.
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Well, did you see well, this was the crazy thing for the people who were advocating regime change in the twelve day war in Iran. They were always as you see, there were, like, there were Israeli government officials who were posting pictures of the son of the Shah, like, the implication being
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That he would come ai.
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That he’ll come back into power.
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Because what because he’s in exile in England.
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So now the the war on terrorism started with spreading democracy. And in its end phase, we’re spreading,
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ai what’s the word I’m looking for? A
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a a monarchy? A hereditary monarchy or something? It’s like, yeah. But also, by the way, what do you think the odds are that if we overthrew the Mullahs that the son of the Shah just walks back into power and all the warring factions just go, yeah. No. That’s you know, The US propped him up in 1953. So then, yeah, okay. He’s the rightful ruler. Like, I don’t think so, dude.
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Well, listen, man. I’ve had enough getting bummed out.
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Well, I’m not trying to buy you out, bro.
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It just there’s so much going that’s the problem with being alive today, is you’re you’re paying attention to so many different conflicts.
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Yeah. But, dude, it’s the world. Yeah. But, like, in the twentieth century, you know, like, there were two world wars and there was all this horrible shit. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and then, like but today, like, dude, we live in, like, the most amazing time, dude. I mean, there’s literally Just
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bring it home nice.
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Well, listen, man. I I mean this. The most sincere thing I’ve ever said, in my life. My son was born with a congenital heart defect that would have killed him in almost any other time period unless I was alive today or in the last ten years. Meh years ago ai I would’ve lost my son. And today is fine. He’s great, cutest little boy in the world you ever seen. And so, like, I don’t know.
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I’d still rather live today than any other time just for that alone.
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No doubt.
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And and we have an ability to, like, reach people and trade with each other and communicate with each other. We’re we’re really close to, like, curing all types of of diseases and ailments and extending life and and extending you know, people are educated and connected in a way that they’ve never been before.
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You know, know, we got all these problems, but we’ve had lots of problems before. Ai just think we’re
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aware of the problems now.
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That’s right.
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And which is the first step to recognizing them and then going after them and trying to resolve them.
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That’ll be our kids’ generation. Yeah. Me and you me and you will just be recognizing them, and then we’ll leave it to them to solve it.
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02:52:19
You’re gonna have some fun this weekend at the mothership?
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It’s my favorite weekend of every year.
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02:52:23
Well, it’s always awesome to have you there.
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Wait a long comedy wise. Maybe I do something with the wife and kids. Let me know that guy in trouble for that.
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Your podcast, tell everybody how to get it. It’s everywhere.
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Part of the problem, is my political podcast, Legion of Skanks, is the knucklehead comedy podcast. Yeah. But it’s also very fun. Very fun. So go check that out. And then, yeah. Come all the mothership shows are all sold out next year. Cafe the mothership. Yes. Alright. Thanks, buddy.
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You’re the
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man, dude.
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You’re the man.
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Bye, everybody ai.