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Our heartbell was the best. Driving That was a good one. Art was the man. He would get Yeah. That’s why we put that photo up there because he was, you know, a lot of the subjects that we covered, he was the original guy talking about these things on the radio.
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Yeah. And then the the fact that he just kept the open lines. If you’re a time traveler, ai to if you’re a time traveler, just call call in and tell us to tell us what’s gonna happen in the future.
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People that were kidnapped by Ai, like, no matter what, Art was ai, interesting. Tell me more.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like, he was open to just talking to anyone. It was great.
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Meh never called bullshit.
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No. No.
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So the last time I saw you, you gave me an Aztec death whistle and, Ai Saloni blew it on the air and it caused the the pandemic.
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He was very good at it out of nowhere. He just, like, grabbed it and We have another one. Oh, no. Don’t look at this probably.
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That’s Luke Caverns gave us this one. Yeah. That’s a good one. Right?
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That is a beautiful one. I’d probably let’s not repeat it again.
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Ai not blowing it. I don’t know if it’s true or not true, but it’s an odd coincidence.
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It definitely it definitely was. I got I got a lot of messages about it, like, hey, this was ai of coincidentally at the start of this pandemic that could do it today. Don’t don’t put this on me.
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Listen, man. People have been blowing them whistles all over the world. Yeah. There’s a bunch of those whistles out there. There’s no way. There’s no way. No. The only thing is Ai don’t think anybody ever blew one on a podcast that was seen by millions of people.
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I mean, you were directly responsible for those to become this viral popular thing. No, ai, few people knew about them, but they became this international thing now. Ai, everybody talks about death whistles now because of it.
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Well, I don’t know. They are weird. The sound is creepy. Yeah. You know?
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Definitely weird. Ghostly.
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Yeah. If you heard dudes in the distance making that noise and you knew that people arya after you and you heard that, you’d be like, oh, fuck. Yeah.
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I mean, it it keeps it definitely keeps you up at night. Seeing people do pranks with them, just screaming them at randomly in the middle of the night in the street, you know, people running around.
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What is the origin of that? Like, Aztec death whistles, like, when did they start using them? Do ai does anybody know?
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People keep finding them. I mean, Aztec is a modern word for Mexica, which were a bunch of tribes that moved from Northern, you know, Northern America down there. And they brought with them a lot of customs, but I think those were around before them. You know, a lot of them emulated animals.
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So a lot of it was, like, ai. People kind of imbue themselves with the spirit of an animal. So a lot of them, you know, have jaguar sounds coming in. But some of the ones that with the scream, apparently, they’re more about the screeching owls that live down there. Oh.
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But, they’ve been like, people tyler me that native people down there told me that they were very much specifically kinda utilized for psychological, like, effect. Just to fuck with people. Yeah. You know, make them not speak. During these, flower wars that where they they they would have with the I think, the classical Teckens.
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They had this agreement where they would go and try and capture, people to bring back to the pyramid to sacrifice. In a way they would they would, you know, tire them is to, you know, blow those at night where they were encamped or where the or the places where they were about to attack.
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Sai, you know, lose sleep with those. Vatsal like a few 100 of those just
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Yeah. People can be really devious. Yeah. When they know how to mess with your head.
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Yeah. Yeah. Meh, being a people glorify a lot of people from Meh, like, everybody’s Aztec. Probably you’re probably not Aztec. You’re probably some other tribe that didn’t, lose that, initial conquest.
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Yeah. A lot of badass dudes have, like, Aztec tattoos on their back and stuff like that.
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But that’s the losing ai, though. The the the Spanish came and allied themselves with everybody that hated the Aztecs, including, like, the Tlaxcaltequins who were who were apparently, like, badasses. They, the Aztecs used to send tax collectors out to them, and, apparently, one of them didn’t come back according to one story. And, the soldiers came over ai, hey.
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Where’s our tax collector? Let’s let’s feed you before you before we talk about anything. So they fed them, pozole. And at the end of the meal, they were like, well, you can take your people back with you. Where are they? You just ate them.
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They were in the stew. And those are the guys that the Spanish allied with ai against the the Mexica. Jesus.
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The history of Mexico is so strange. I mean, it’s so long and storied and there’s so many chapters of it that are very confusing because, like, where the Mayans go, like, the when they found the Aztec pyramids, people weren’t even living in them when the the people eventually wound up living in them.
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It’s they found them.
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Shah. The the which they call the the it’s basically the city of the gods is what the Aztecs called them because it didn’t. It was abandoned when they went through.
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Which is nuts.
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Yeah. They were, the Aztecs, in essence, were violent immigrants coming from the North into into the South, which is pretty interesting ai, you know. But, yeah. The the city was abandoned completely. And when they passed through, it was the city of the gods. They call the Pyramid Of The Sun And The Moon, but realistically, nobody knows what those pyramids are for.
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And, when they made it their way into the Valley Of Mexico, there were already a bunch of tribes already there, and peoples older peoples. Sai Mexico has an ancient history. People that wanna assume that the Aztecs arya ancient history don’t know anything about history. They’re pretty new on the on the scene as far as history when it when it comes to Mexico.
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Which is really crazy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And it’s really crazy that most modern people don’t even I mean, especially in America, don’t even understand that the reason why everybody speak Spanish is because of the Spaniards. Yeah. It’s not that the Mexican native language was Spanish. No. No. It was the language they assume once they were conquered.
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Yeah. And there’s a bunch of lost languages. Yeah. Something interesting happened with them and Hernan Cortes and the Conquista and the Spanish are all perfect villains in history. I I guess people it’s it’s it’s perfect, man. If you ai look at it from the outside perspective. Colonial invasion.
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But when you go but when you had to look at it, I mean, they were they were just getting off their own conquest. They were conquested by the Moors. Sai they were getting free from that. So they were already mixed in there. They’re they’re brown people on ai boat.
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It’s not blonde haired white people coming on that boat. There’s already brown people on that boat coming. Hernan Cortes is very much painted as a villain in this story. But when you ai look at the way that the conquest took place in Mexico versus other parts of the world, there was a lot of brutality.
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There’s a lot of ignorance, a lot of, religious nonsense on both sides because the Aztecs also did a lot of horrible things. But in the end, I think Mexico went around the route of. We decided to mix. Like, the Spanish decided to take wives among the natives. They decided to give honorary titles to the people that helped fight the Aztecs to help with the conquest of what wasn’t Meh.
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It was just this valley at that ai. And it gave birth to this culture, this mixed culture, that very much hates parts of itself, which is a weird part of Mexican culture. Because you ask anybody in Meh, a lot of people, and then, like, I went to Meh school, so I got a lot of this education of how the evil Spanish came in and wiped out all of the natives, you know, or most of the natives.
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When in reality, you know, a lot of a lot of us in Mexico have mixed blood. Most of us have mixed blood. There’s a lot of Spanish blood in us. So we were very meh taught to hate ourselves in a way. And I think that that has something to do with a lot of ai and the culture in Mexico.
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There’s a whole part of our history and ourselves that we hate, but it’s essential. Like, we we we sai, like, the president of Mexico, the past president, the current president arya are all about sending the the the the king of Spain letters to for to have him apologize for the conquista.
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And it’s ai, like, some of the bloggers from Spain will respond ai you’re you’re you’re asking that in Spanish.
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Yeah. Right? And you’re probably an ancestor of those very people. So it’s kind of you more than us. Yeah. Because we didn’t even go over there. We’re still here.
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Yes. Yes. And and well Right. And and people ask where the Ai went. They’re there. You go down there. Yeah. There’s some. They look
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They look Ai.
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Exactly like the paintings. If you’ve ever been to the the the anthropological museum in Mexico, which I highly ask people to go and visit, it’s beautiful. They have a whole, ai exhibit there, and it’s, like, startling how their culture was so advanced, so detailed, so detail orientated.
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And they you know, the whole feeling of them just being gone or, like, disappearing as a mystery, but then you go down there and you see these people there. They
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And first of all, you just to I mean, I know that the Pyramids Of Egypt dwarf even that, but when you go there, you’re ai, what happened?
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Yeah.
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Like, how did you guys do this? Like, how how arya you building these immense stone structures in the jungle way before Europeans ever settled into Ai, like, way before there was anything like this anywhere else.
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A lot of strong backs, a lot of work ai, you know, there’s no doubt.
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There’s no doubt. There was a lot of that, but there was also a lot of, like, incredibly sophisticated engineering. Yeah. Like, this isn’t just like a one time project. You got it right the first time. Like, how are you guys so good at like, when you look at the the Chichen Itza Pyramids, well, you can’t walk up them anymore, unfortunately.
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But when I was
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You’ll you’ll get lynched.
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Yeah. You meh in big trouble. But when I was there back in the day, you could climb up them. This is ai, I guess, early two thousand and you were you were allowed to walk up that. But they’ll fuck you up now. There just been videos of people doing things and then
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Yeah. The locals They’ll get lynched in the bottom if they if you ai to climb that thing right now. Yeah. People are like There’s a there’s a watch guy all the way on the top and a bunch of dog always on that’s a weird thing about all pyramids. I don’t know why dogs, like, hang out up there. Oh, really? Yeah.
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Like the the one in in in in the Sana Pyramid in in Mexico, there’s always dogs on top of it. And this one oh, there’s also always dogs on top of it.
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Like, feral dogs or
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domestic dogs? Wild ai. Just hang out better.
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But Ai mean, when you see these things, like, give us some of the images of when you see, some of these there’s some dogs. When you see some of these pyramids like that, like, that’s so different. I mean, that is so sophisticated. It’s so bizarre. Yeah. We had a really good guide there when, I went and the guide was showing us this one area where they would take whatever psychedelic plants.
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They had ai some ceremonial room where they would take psychedelic plants. And, he was telling me that it’s not totally understood what they were doing or why they were doing, but it is widely accepted that some of what they were into had to do with psychedelic rituals. And he thinks that had a lot to do with why they were able to make these kind of insanely complex structures.
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And and and a weird thing that I’ve also kind of, like, realized after just talking to people and going down there and and ai of seeing some of the artifacts, A lot of the psychedelics that they actually took were self harm and mutilation, bloodletting type tyler, activities.
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Really?
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Yeah. A lot of the Aztec priests, you see the pictures of them pulling a cord with thorns through their private parts, trying to trying to, in, trying to invoke in them these, Ai don’t know, visions.
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So just being in such extreme pain and such a bizarre state of mind that you transcend?
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Yeah. Which is which which matched up perfectly with some of the Catholic worldviews when they when they arrived. When when you when you look at a lot of the cultures, specifically in Mexico, you see that they met they met kind of, like, a perfect culture. Like, they matched in
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lot of ways.
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When the Catholics arrived.
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Yeah. The Mexicans were venerating a mother goddess, at a at a grotto, area in Mexico. That’s where the, the basilica is. Yeah. These are some of those rituals. Oh, yeah. They’re what’s going
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on there?
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They’re calling these,
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bloodletters. Yeah.
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But they’re ai boss. Porky ai, something spine.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They’re coming out of that arya, and there’s a
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Oh, that’s wrapped around his dick?
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It looks like it. Yep.
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It’s pretty close to that area.
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A lot a
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lot of people wanna go take coming out of a lot of people wanna go take Ayahuasca down there, but I don’t see a lot of this probably coming back. Ram maybe. I don’t know. But that that was that’s a big part of what they also did, you know, a lot of bloodletting pain.
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A lot of human sacrifice too.
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Yes. Yeah. Which they which a lot of people in Mexico are now. Oh, it’s a big exaggeration. It’s like propaganda ai. And then you go there and there’s ai saloni skull piles commemorating whatever war and depictions of them in and Cody sees that they themselves made of just getting be, ai people on top of pyramids, pulling out their hearts.
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Well, that was that one statue that’s on top of the pyramid that’s like a bench. They were explaining to me that that’s where they would sacrifice people.
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I mean, it it, it it makes sense. It’s even the way that in the art it’s depicted, you can’t fake that. Most people would think you’d go through the rib cage to get at the heart. No. They go through the diaphragm right down here. So that’s why there’s a lot of depictions of some of these gods ai Mican Tlacutli, which is the lord of the underworld in the Aztec.
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Sometimes it’s depicted in with a skeletal form with its hands spread out like this, and you’ll see a split, diaphragm on the bottom coming out underneath its rib cage as a signifier that, you know, that’s
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Well, they go up to grab the heart.
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That’s where they go up to grab
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the heart. Show show that sculpture. That sculpture, that flat bench sculpture that is like a man. It looks like he’s, sitting on his hands and knees, but with his, you know, torso faced upward. That one.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. That was the one they’re explaining to me.
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And and again, I I imagine that a lot of these things, I mean, you have to interpret because there’s there there are things out there that I I don’t understand. But I know blood was very essential, and it was an essential thing for these cultures. It’s one of the most powerful offerings you can make.
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And a lot of the Catholic side of things that came into the country that came into this area, just intermingled perfectly. You know, they also they were also talking about a God that,
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that Those skulls in the corner right next to your cursor,
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Jimmy, in the middle there. I think. Right there. Yeah. Where where the capital of Mexico is right now, there’s a big cathedral behind it. There’s a there’s a Templo Mayor, the the major temple of the Aztec Ai. And it there there’s a lot of those, types of symbologies around it, just skulls, because that’s where they would have the the Ai think it sai called.
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Sorry if I butchered the word. They would have these racks of skulls on top of the pyramids, on on top of their central pyramid, ai of displaying all of the people that had gone, you know. Off it. And what
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was the story? What was the completion of Tenochtitlan or one of the Aztec pyramids where they sacrificed 80,000 slaves? Yeah. Over the, like, whoever they had. Yeah. Ai I’ve
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I’ve heard, like, numbers of 50,000. I have no idea how you would ai of figure out those numbers.
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Right.
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But you do get, accounts of some of the Spanish conquistadors describing the smell that some of these pyramids had, which if you were into a kill house, like a like a slaughterhouse Yeah. You don’t have this this this
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this dark smell.
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Yeah. It’s like it’s sai uncanny. And there’s something about human tallow that I’ve also smelled and and blood that is very Distinct. Ai mean, yeah. At at at, we’re monkeys, and we probably have some genetic memory of what that smell is, and it makes us wanna run, I guess.
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And and they ai the smell on on some of these pyramids when they when they when they finally got into the city. The city don’t get me wrong. The Aztec Ai, like, the Spanish, peasants coming off that boat were, like, awestruck of when they saw this city. Yeah. Like, it had water coming into it.
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It has Super complex. Sisters complex, just this this structure and culture that was un uncontested there. So when they
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when they got there, they’re looking. And completely different than anything European. Yeah. So they came over here and they’re like, what is going on in this part of the world? Yeah. What what what are you guys doing?
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Yeah. How do you have so much gold? Well, there was some gold. Not I mean, you you you hear these stories about the city of gold and stuff like that. There there was gold there, but they valued other things. You know, that that wasn’t their main central things. It was a kind of puzzle about why they were so interested in some of that golden regalia that they had.
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But, when the when when the conquest kinda, like, finally ai of subsided and the the the parties that lost were all being divided up because that’s what happened. The lords within the same culture became allies of the, allies of the invading forces. And when they won, they were like, you’re now the title owner or the leader of this arya, and here’s the royal decree.
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Where’s this, Jamie?
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Oh, yeah. Sacrificial saloni. Yeah. That’s that’s in the that’s in the media.
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60,000 human sacro oh, my god.
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They can see where the blood was was, channeled to drip down from that. I think I think I think this is I don’t I’m not sure if this is the one, but there was one stone where they would tie somebody onto the saloni, and he would fight several people until he finally died. True. It’s like ai I don’t know. It’s like a sacrifice above, it. Like a fighting sacrifice. It was a different, type of sacrifice they did.
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Human intelligence, applied to cruelty is very bizarre. It’s it’s very bizarre when you see Yeah. Torture? Yeah. Torture, just that kind of stuff. Just to what people would do for just pure entertainment or vatsal or to to I mean, because everyone’s afraid to ai, so you just show death in the worst form, in the most cruel and uncaring, sacrificial form in front of everybody.
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Children, cutting people’s hearts out while they’re still alive. It just keeps everybody on.
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It’s a spectacle.
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It’s a speak, and I’m sure it keeps yeah. There they go. Sacrificing people and then throwing their bodies off the side. Yeah.
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And peep people keep denying that that actually happened, but it’s we we Ai I I think it’s the same phenomenon you get in The US, where all of Native Americans were, like, peaceful and it was like a utopia Right. Before before they came in and Yeah. But
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Well, that’s one that really bothers people when they want this binary sort of analysis of North Meh. You know, the white people were bad and evil, which for sure they were. And they came over here and this is good people that were just living off the land in harmony like, not really. In fact, they were killing each other. Yeah.
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Not only that, that was their favorite thing to do. Where we are right now, the Comanches, all those motherfuckers did was eat meat. They didn’t have any artwork. They didn’t have anything other than bows and arrows. That’s all they made. They made teepees. They made bows and arrows and they fucked everybody up.
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And their favorite thing was to go to nearby tribes and kill everybody.
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Yeah.
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That was their fun time. Yeah. They loved to and they would torture people in the most horrific ways. In Empire of the Summer Moon, which is an amazing book on the Comanche ram right in this speak, and they would take people that they captured, they would cut their arms and legs off while they’re alive.
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So they would hold them down, immediately hack their arms and legs off, and then throw them on a bonfire to watch them wiggle. Fucking yo. Like, you gotta be that’s
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dark. Yeah. That’s that’s bloodlust. I don’t know what that is. I mean, if you let’s say let’s say they did that in front of the enemy, the enemy that they just conquered.
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Yeah. Well, they would make sense. Keep one guy alive to watch and then let him go. Yeah. Go tell everybody. Psychological operations. Sai everybody else gets butchered, one guy they let go. You go tell everybody. No. We’re out here.
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No. No. And also ai if you think about it, some of the horrors shah are still happening down south Yeah. Which is we you sent me this message last night of these, six or seven.
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I’ll send it to Jamie. Because it’s pretty crazy how often this stuff happens down in Mexico and how little of it we ever hear about it. We we don’t really hear too much about these, insane mass murders that take place down there.
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There was a there was a beheading in in in, down down in Meh. And it was, it’s a it’s it’s a safe or not a historically safe part of Meh, that where this type of stuff doesn’t happen that meh. But things are changing, rapidly down there. It’s evolving quickly. The and and and the but but the the culture that we have, down there, I ai
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I bet there is. Ai makes sense. I think there’s genetic memory. Sai severed head founds on the side of the road, the chilling meh, one of Mexico’s safest regions. And what, part of Mexico is this?
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I think
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it’s Puebla region, if I’m not mistaken. Yeah. Yeah. Puebla in Toscala. I mean, it’s a beautiful place. If you go to Puebla, visit Puebla, guys. It’s beautiful. But this is Don’t be there at the wrong time. I just don’t work for the cartels, I guess. The the act so this is an interesting thing that I I heard long ago from somebody.
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I I, one of the first jobs I did was cut cut cut somebody off a bridge. And one of the older guys that was with meh, Ai was, like, horrified ai by by this kid, you know, 16, 17 year old kid, told me, oh, they’re being kind. Then I’m like, what’s kind about leaving somebody hanging from a fucking bridge naked? His family’s gonna get something to bury at least.
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So it dawned on me that that was an act of kindness. So having somebody beheaded is even Sai normal. It’s even crueler. Yeah. Because now They have no body.
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They have nobody to bury. Yeah. And there’s a lot of coffins with just a head or not even that in Mexico buried in the ground.
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But just think of how insane it has to be to where hanging someone from bryden is an act of kindness because at least you could find the body.
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It it is the evolution of what is considered normal in Mexico. People will get shot by the dozens. People will get displayed in this horrific and people will just go back to work. It is that’s every day. And that’s the scary part of it, I think, for most of the people that live down there is how normalized it has become.
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There’s not that’s it’s not an abnormal thing to hear some of these
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things. And this is not in terms of America, our understanding of Mexico and cartel culture, this is not something that was ever talked about when I was in high school. It was never talked about when I was a young man. It it never came up. It wasn’t a thing in the news. Cartel violence was not I I think I think the
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the first time people start getting, like, a inkling of this was in the nineties when the phenomenon of this guy Adolfo Constanzo happened. This was on the this was on the border between Texas and Juarez area. He was, they called him the Narco Satanico, the satanist narc. Oh, boy.
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He was a high level practitioner of something called Saloni and Santeria. And he would do rituals for people, ai, in cartels. And he started his own cartel because he was pretty successful at social engineering and and and folk magic, basically, is what he was doing. And at some point, he started believing in in his in his power, and he instructed some of the members of his gang to abduct an American because he needed a brain for his, cauldron where he would do some of these rituals.
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And I think that’s the first time Americans got a little, ai, a, like, a, like, a small glimpse of the underground brutality monster, religious occultism, and just torture and murder that that has been going on down there for many years. But it has gotten really bad in the past, twenty, thirty years.
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So this has always been going on?
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In in a lot of ways, yes. Brutality in Mexico has has been going on for a while.
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But cartel brutality? Like, when when did the cartels really start start gaining power?
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I think the seventies. Seventies and eighties is when they we start seeing the formation of the first, large organizations and federations that are working to produce and or to traffic substances through Mexico up into The United States. Was it originally cocaine? Marijuana. I think originally heroin actually was at the start or the initiation of a lot of this stuff.
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I think
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Where were they getting the heroin?
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They were they were planting, they were planting poppy, in the Sierra for the war effort, apparently, for the Americans because they were they they were running on a shortage of morphine, so they need to place the planet. And that’s one of the places where they kinda started like, oh, you can grow this here. And people start getting ai.
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This
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is the Vietnam War?
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Yeah. Around the Well, that’s sai Vietnam World War two era, that that’s when you arya seeing the initiation of, like, people planting certain things.
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So forties, fifties, sixties,
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similar ones? Fifties. Yeah.
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Wow. Well, it’s like Vietnam itself is connected to heroin. Yeah. Because that that’s the dirty secret about why we were interested in that whole area of Vietnam and that there was a trafficking area.
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Yeah. And the Bryden Triangle.
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Yeah. And, coincidentally, a lot of people got insanely rich somehow or another connected to that, but we had to be over there to stop communism or something.
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And and it’s an interesting point you bring up of Vietnam because it has something to do or elements of it remind you of Mexico. It is Mexico has been a place that has been ruled over by a single party for eighty years, if if that, the PRI. And then it went through its, democratic period, and now we have other parties coming into play.
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And now we have a ruling party all over Mexico called Morena, who is you know, this is the party of the avrassos novelasos. That’s how they started, you know, hugs not bullets against the cartel’s policy, which allowed them to grow. And also
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Super effective. Hugs not bullets.
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But this is coming off a
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Mexico has liberals too, I guess. Yes.
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We do. Mexico is three Mexico is three things. Southern Mexico, that’s that’s rural Mexico. Central Mexico, that’s where all the all the woke comes ram. The capital of Mexico. That’s where
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all city.
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That’s where all the general pronouns get issued into law. That’s where the violence, against women specifically, and sai is now a new thing catalog under the law. You can kill a dude, you’re ai, but if you kill a woman, that’s feminicide, which is way worse. So it’s that’s where a lot of that a a a lot of that policy comes from.
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And then Northern Meh, where I’m from, that’s where, I guess, conservative, that’s ai all the factories are. That’s where all the people the the hard work hardworking people and, people that ai, like, go the other side of the politics that are woke. That used to be the case, but now Ai all ruling all over the country.
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And a lot of the policy they’re bringing with them are, you know, to the left. Mexico was very tired from the drug war that it had been going on for twenty years, that I was a part of for for twelve of those years. They saw Felipe Calderon bring the military into this fight to fight the cartels and just kicking a giant beehive.
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He had realistically, he really didn’t have a clue what we what he was about to kinda kick off. He had the idea that if you just put the military out, you know, which are not corrupted well, he thought they were not corrupted. And you militarized a lot of the policing going on around it, you can eliminate all these cartel meh. Like, oh, just this guy’s gone.
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This guy’s gone, and we’re gonna just now secure this area and control. But it’s been just basically gremlins. You know? One gremlin will turn into four or five. You cut one head off, and it’s ai. Just bunch of heads come out now.
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So Mexico has been going through that for for a ai, and then this president comes in, Lopez Obrador, with this plan of, like, we’ll just leave him saloni, and they’ll they’ll they’ll they’ll they’ll stop. Violence will stop because we’ll stop fighting them. How’d that work? He has one of the most violent presidencies in history.
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His main he ai Calderon who started the struggle war over his handling of it. He out he out matches him from death during his administration. What we saw in his administration was the politicalization, and they were already in politics, but they now they’re really overt about it.
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Now cartels arya, like, they have their own candidates running for office. The mayor of a city and the police chief of the city, they’re all cartel members. And the police force, they’re all cartel members in parts of Mexico.
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Oh, boy.
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The all of the political killings that meh in Mexico don’t happen because there’s a bunch of John f Kennedy’s out there ai are trying to change things. Right? It’s because that cartel is sponsoring that candidate. And this
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cartel is
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sponsoring that candidate. So I don’t want your candidate to win, so I’m gonna go shoot them.
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Well, there was some insane amount of murders during the last election. Wasn’t it ai 30 plus murders? See if you can find out how many murders
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there was. That sounds about that’s what it sounds about right. It is again, these criminal organizations have politicized. They figured out that, you know, how can we operate in this region without having too much issues? Right. Let’s put let’s make the mayor our ai. Right.
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And let’s elect the governor. So
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We like to think that we’re innocent over here, but how much different is it with what we do with pharmaceutical drug companies sponsoring people? Because they pay for people’s campaigns, and those people get in with a specific understanding of what kind of laws you need to push through, what kind of mandates you need to make in terms of the, you know, mandating the use of certain medications.
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It it, it’s a different type of corruption.
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It’s different type of ai,
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but it’s it’s it’s
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it’s Still drugs. Still drugs. Yeah. Up to 60. 60 politicians in the twenty twenty four general and local elections. 60 politicians were assassinated Yeah. During pre campaign and campaign periods. Fucking yo. Imagine if that was going on meh America. Marjorie Tyler Greene’s getting whacked. AOC’s getting whacked. Like, that would be fucking crazy.
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And and it it is a clear sign that whatever division people had in their heads about the cartels or this organization here, and they’re they don’t they’re not openly at least involved in any of this political stuff and no. All that shit’s gone. Something happened something happened last year. The arrest of one of the biggest cartel heads in history from Mexico, El Mayo Zambada.
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He was arrested in Texas. He flew into a private air they flew him into a private airfield under pretty interesting, circumstances and then handed had he handed himself over to authorities. He was arrested there. I mean, that kicked off a lot of violence in Mexico.
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Why was he willing to fly in?
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So there’s different stories around it. He’s told his own story. He’s actually talked about this many times openly with his drivers and stuff like that. They’re driving around, so he just speaks about it. He’s he’s older now. He was a ghost. This is El Ai Zambada was the legitimate leader of the Sinaloa cartel.
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The US would say that it was Chapo Guzman. Not really. The Sinaloa cartel was a federation. And a lot of the bigger, older parts of that cartel were kind of headed up by this figure, Ai Zamballa, who in fifty years was never arrested, never grabbed, never caught. You would hear about them about him vaguely in certain circles, but everybody knew that guy is the head of the Sinaloa Cartel or the he’s the the bigger guy in that organization, which is a federation of groups.
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Last time I was here, it was after the Culiacanazo, the incident where they rescued Ovidio, one of El Chapo’s, sons. Two years ago, they finally got up to him. Right? The army did this operation. Same thing happened. All the cartels burned the city, blocked roads and stuff like that.
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A lot of the special operation soldiers died in his arrest, a few of them. And he was finally arrested and extradited to United States. Conversation probably happened with his with within The United States with when he was finally in US custody. And El Chapo Guzman is in a hole, and he’s not gonna get it out of the hole.
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His sana probably figured out that if they don’t wanna get into a hole too, they probably need to cut a deal. And I think and the theory is that that deal probably included handing over the head of the Sinaloa Cartel of Mayo Zambala.
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Sai ai US law enforcement for more than two decades. He was taken into custody after arriving in a private plane at Texas airport with Guzman’s son, Joaquin Guzman Lopez. Guzman Lopez has pleaded not guilty to federal not guilty to federal drug trafficking charges in Chicago. His brother, Avedio Guzman Lopez, pleaded guilty last month.
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Zambada said that he was kidnapped in Mexico and hauled to The US by Guzman Lopez, whose lawyer denies those claims.
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So this is the the the the shah stuff that happened. El Mayo gets gets brought into a meeting in in Sinaloa by by, by Joaquin, who is he is not one of the he he’s not really into the drug. He’s not one of the powerful brothers of the the Chapo Guzman brothers that are in the drug trade. He’s kinda like wanting out, basically.
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So at some point, he cuts a deal. And in this deal, he said, I’m gonna get this guy on a plane, and I’m gonna fly him over. You know? And we’re gonna make a deal. That’s the story. He has him he has Ai come into a meeting between the governor of Sinaloa, which is known publicly.
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People know this. The governor of Sinaloa was gonna be in the meeting with Omayo Sinaloa cartel, who is a member of Morena, the current ruling party all over the country. Also, no investigation. Also, he’s still in power, which is shady as fuck. Between him and a man named Gwen, who was, I think he was the director of the university there.
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They had some sort of political dispute, and Ai was being brought in to, I don’t know, negotiate or, like, influence that, which tells you a lot about how the cartels and politics and the universities are tied. Right? At that meeting, Nemesia Quinn, who is, Cuen, who is the the a friend of El Mayo, the the guy who’s the director of the university, gets killed.
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They shoot him. There’s a video published of a gas station shootout where supposedly this sai, who was the director of the university, gets killed. But it’s fucking made up by the state prosecutor. You know? They try they’re trying to make this shit go away. Meanwhile, all this stuff stuff starts unraveling.
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Oh, they abducted El Mayo at that meeting, and that’s why they killed this guy. We don’t know or there at least, I don’t know if there’s any specific confirmation that the governor of Single Law was there. But he said he went to The US. He was in The US. He wasn’t there, but there’s no travel logs of him being in The US.
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It’s a it’s a shit show. They somehow overtake his bodyguards, El Mayo’s bodyguards. They’re gone. Nobody knows where they went. Probably dead somewhere.
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Got El Mayo on a plane and flew him into Texas. Homeland Security was apparently involved. FBI says that they they meh have been involved. But I was talk when last time I was here, I was talking about at some point, we’re gonna see either a direct US intervention or military action in Mexico that’s gonna kick off things.
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And I think that was it. Wow. After that happened, El Chapo Guzman’s sons cut deals. 17 members of the Guzman family were secretly flown to Tijuana and crossed the border with suitcases and were put into FBI vans and
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Suitcases.
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Yeah. They’ve they’ve moved they they’ve they’ve rescued their family meh, and they took him out of the country. So they’re in The US somewhere.
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Under some kind of protective custody?
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Yeah. Of course. Jeez. And if you wanna talk about people that know everything, ai, all the ins and outs, El Ai Zambales want it’s he he’s the guy. He knows
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Where where is he being detained?
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I think he’s in New York, and I think he just declared himself guilty, and he’s probably gonna cut a deal. He’s he’s older. He’s he’s a diabetic. He’s he’s not he’s he’s not gonna spend life in prison. El Chapo Guzman went to Which is ai.
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We think about how long he was running shit and how many people died ai how many
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drugs got He learned his straight craft from, he learned his straight craft in LA.
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Here it is. It’s August 25, so it’s soon. A Brooklyn federal judge on Monday scheduled August 25 change of plea hearing for Zambada. Ai leader of Mexico Sinaloa Cartel development comes two weeks after federal prosecutors said they wouldn’t seek the death penalty against him.
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There’s a deal there. And and and I don’t They’re gonna put ai in the
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same prison as Glenn Maxwell.
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Yeah. I don’t Ai don’t see him jogging, but yeah. Probably doing yoga. This this there’s a deal coming. And I there’s a there’s this sense in The US that, you know, Trump came into power and declared these organizations terrorist organizations. And there was an ex there was a expectation that that meant gloves off and gonna see military action pretty soon.
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But what we’ve seen has been a very calculated surgical operation, Ai it looks like. I don’t know. I mean, you sai, they took out the head of the Sinaloa cartel, and Sinaloa has been on fire ever since. It it is open warfare between the last remaining sons of Chapo Guzman and the sons of El Ai, who are now
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I’ve seen video. It’s bananas. It is A war zone on the streets. See if
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you can find some of that Sinaloa video, Jamie, because it is, shocking. When when when when that when when this when this war kicked off between these two factions in Sinaloa, schools closed. You know? People didn’t wanna go out because their cars were gonna get jacked to get burned and put in the middle of the street. Companies closed.
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All of the luxury environment around these criminal organizations that they built up. I mean, these were criminal organizations that had Louis Vuitton stores and and click on, you know, and Really? And and exotic car, exotic cars being sold in in in in store and in these, dealerships and all of the bands that play live music at their places and all these speak exotic seafood places.
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All these places just how and how how how are they gonna sustain themselves now? This this economy started crashing, and it’s it’s, the Mexican government comes out, the president, the president, the the current president, Shah Baum comes out, and she blames this state being on ai, The US.
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Like, The US came in here and abducted El Ai Zambada, a Mexican national. And they charge Joaquin Guzman, who was involved in the operation to pick up El Ai. They charged him with high treason in Mexico for abducting El Mayo Zambada and putting him in The US, which is High treason. He’s he’s charged with high treason.
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So if they’re For
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abducting a drug lord.
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Yes. Woah. Which is like I don’t know. Like, I’m doing the math on all that. Wow. But you have this you have this situation now where she’s blaming The US for basically causing this stability.
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Give me some, some volume on this because Oh,
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this is the the this is this is the members of Ai family shooting up all the luxury houses of those Chapitos.
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Jeez. I hope these guys are using ear protection.
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No. They’re not. We’ll talk about that in a bit.
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Yeah. You could probably sneak up on all those motherfuckers. They’re probably all deaf.
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But they’re basically shooting up all the luxury apartments that they know are owned by the Chapos in that area. They they they love a 100 round drum magazines in Mexico for some reason.
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That’s a 50 cal with no hearing protection? Ai?
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You don’t need it.
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Because how
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many of those guys are deaf?
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Oh, a lot of them have a severe hearing loss and and a lot we I recently went to Jalisco with a friend of mine who’s a he has a YouTube channel called The Connect, Johnny Mitchell. He talks to drug dealers and, like, people in the in that life. There’s a friend of mine in in Mexico and who’s, he had he’s basically the Mexican Shah Ryan. Agathe four two three is his, handle.
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And he interviews, like, cartel members and people from
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that life. And Do they wear masks
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or something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We talked to a kid that was six months out of working with the what is currently, I think, priority number one, should be priority number one for The US, the new generation cartel. This militarized cartel out of Jalisco that has been with this war going on between the single law factions. I mean, it’s Christmas for them.
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Sai, when when, when we went down there, he introduced us to his kid who was freshly off base the he he was involved in tank warfare on the borders between Jalisco and Zacatecas against Los Mayos, who you see there firing at these houses.
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Tanks.
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They they’re making their own tanks. If you get your truck stolen up here and probably gets driven to Mexico, they’re gonna make a tank out of it, probably. They’re making these, these artisanally made tanks, basically. Mostly what they are are Yeah. Yeah. That that’s a pretty old one. The the I think that’s the Zeta period.
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That’s cool, though. That looks like a fucking Mad Max vehicle. But what they do is they make these these tanks, and his job was to be in the back of one of these with a 50 cal rifle. Is that this so what they do is you’ll you’ll get to you’ll get into a dirt road, and they’ll put their trucks like this with their backs turned.
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And I was like, why don’t you just ram with the front? The engine will go out. You have to ram with the back of the truck. So they’ll just go into, like, this destruction derby in the hills and shoot at each other until there’s a clear winner is what they did they they do, basically.
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And their main weapons are 50 caliber rifles. So they’ll be in the back of the truck, and they’re like, now now now. And they’ll just somebody’s on radio inside the cabin trying to call out what’s going on, and they’ll pop out and start.
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How come no one’s figured out ear protection?
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They put bullets in their ears. I’ve seen I’ve seen that. They put, like, plastic things in their ears, but realistically, they don’t get shit and they’re expendable. That’s why they don’t give that’s why there’s no ear protection.
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You can get, like, a pair of Walkers game ears on Amazon. It’s not that expensive.
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No. None of that is down there. This kid walked us through how he was all the way from his recruitment, through his training, through this tank warfare thing that they sent him sana, and now into his life where he was like, why why I laughed about your question about hearing protection is Ai was of the guy the first person that showed him what tinnitus was and what hearing loss was.
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Because he kept ai, what did you say? It’s like, hey, dude. Do you have hearing loss? Like, no. Like, Sai just like, dude, you have severe hearing loss from what you went through. This is Yeah. Probably.
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These are tanks going after each other?
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Yeah. That’s this is you’ll see this in in in different, I mean, they’re fighting over drug routes, basically, and and and and territory.
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And Jesus Christ. They’re so close to each other.
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It’s it’s
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it’s 50 caliber at, like, 10 foot distance.
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And, the the drones are now involved in this as well, because ai not?
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Of course.
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So the and and the way he was recruited is pretty interesting. He was an Uber driver. This kid again, you you will look at it. This kid, if you found him somewhere, just normal kid. He’s twenty twenty three right now, I think, but looks like a kid. Uber driver crashes into somebody, accident, doesn’t have enough money to pay the extra for the insurance. So he’s like, god. What am I gonna do?
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You know, married, newly married. What am I gonna do? Goes on TikTok. And he sees an advertisement on TikTok for, like, hey, you need money? This is how much we pay you if you come work with us.
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The cartel advertisement. The cartel uses TikTok to recruit.
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Yes. Facebook, TikTok. Of course.
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But Totally makes sense.
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But specifically, TikTok is one of their biggest, recruiting, methods. And it’s in the open. It’s not like like, you have to access this private page and go and do this. No. It’s like, hey. You sana come work for the four letters is the way they call themselves? Yeah. Just call this number. Right?
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So he called this number, and he was, like, told to meet somebody at a bus station. He goes and meets these people at the bus station. They put him in a car. They check them, like, give me your phones. Give me like, we don’t wanna be tracked.
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And then he they drive them to a place where he’s they were gonna be trained, I guess, is what he said. And then cops stop them in the road, beat the shit out of all of them there, torture a few of them. What are you doing? Where are you going? They don’t don’t tell them anything. Anything. Don’t tell them anything. And after they got the beating of their life, they good. You passed the test.
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53:08
And now you’re gonna go to the camp.
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53:10
Oh, so that was what it was for.
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53:12
But the uniformed cops were all cartel members.
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53:14
Oh ai god.
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53:15
And the police, the like, all these are places where everybody’s in on it.
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53:21
So it’s just to see if you’ll crack.
Speaker: 3
53:24
He he gets driven to one of these ranches, these training camps. And it’s not like, you know, I remember seeing the Al Qaeda training camps where the guys are on the monkey bars and stuff like that. These are military compounds that are that are in the Sierras and the in the mountains.
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53:42
There was a case recently where they they thought they found these mass graves that turned out to be actually training camp. There were dead people there, but there was they they found all these shoes that Mexican they were calling them Mexican Auschwitz. But what they actually found is a processing space.
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53:57
Like, you go there and they strip off all your clothes and your shoes, and they leave them there because because they give ram new shoes because they don’t wanna be tracked. So it was one of those process in places. So then you end it and then and you you then end up in some of the training camps.
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54:10
He describes active duty military personnel training them in the hills. Mexican military personnel training them in the hills. Former special operators from Colombia. Some some former special operators from Mexico. Some from America as well. Right?
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54:29
There’s rumors and again, Ai I’ve not talked directly to anybody that knows of that that sai that had eyes on them. But there are rumors of at least two American specialists of some sort because I’ve heard Delta Force and Speak and Ai don’t know. But there there is a clear, communication of methods and technology. IEDs are a thing in Mexico now.
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54:56
Like, IEDs are very reminiscent of things that you would see in Afghanistan and Iraq. And the only way that they come over here is not from an Afghani or an Iraqi coming over and showing us how to do IEDs. It’s probably an EOD tech of some sort from The US that has some experiences and know how to make some of these.
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55:13
That’s one where that’s one place where they were learning their trade craft. Another one is Colombia. Colombians, Colombian operators have been have been showing up in weird parts of the world fighting. I mean, they’re they’re in the Ukrainian war right now learning about drone technology.
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55:26
Some of the some of the operators from Mexico that went to fight in the Ukrainian front are now back in Mexico showing the cartels how to what they learned about drone warfare in the Ukraine war. Woah. So this kid describes his training camp where it’s the army. People are marching around. People are in uniform.
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55:44
People are getting trained, and you you they’ll get people bring brought into this training camp and, like, hey. Let’s see if you’re worthy. And then they’ll give you a gun and, like, kill.
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55:58
Just Kill some random person.
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56:00
Yeah. And this kid describes how he that’s that’s the first dude he killed. Just an unarmed dude that he was dragged into that camp.
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56:07
So they just ram a dude just to see if you’re capable of
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56:09
taking some stuff. Ai think he was one of the guys that tried to run. Oh. Because it’s it’s I meh, it’s, like, it’s I say it’s like the military, but they’ll kill you there if you fucking fuck up or or they’ll beat, you know, or or they’ll beat you, flog you. It is a job. It is a it is ai a structured job.
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56:27
You get a you get you get money paid to you, every every quincean, every 15 days, and a bonus sai the at the end of the month, you get equipment. You know? You get selected for certain activities. He was selected for tank duty, and they sent him on his fucking tank to fight, in the hills.
Speaker: 3
56:43
Some people get selected to be to manage some of their drugstores. Some people get managed to just be lookouts. But it’s a giant network of people, that they’ve managed to create for themselves, in this region, this new generation cartel. It’s one of the largest and fastest growing cartels in Mexico, and it is now probably operating all over Mexico.
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57:07
And recruiting people on TikTok?
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57:09
The most of their their recruiting is through TikTok. Yes. Openly. And again, it’s not in it’s not you don’t have to search for it. It’s it’s there. Ai smugglers ai on TikTok constantly as well. Ai, they’ll have videos of people here in Texas that went through the border recently and with a newspaper, like, hey, I’m in Texas now. Look at the newspaper.
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57:31
And, like, they were but they were in Meh, like, a few hours later, they a few hours before with the newspaper and, like, this is Saul. Saul is the best smuggler out there. Ai him for, like, sai like, a safe crossing. This is on TikTok. Ai mean, it’s it’s in the open.
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57:48
Ai speak people people people don’t realize how how big of a tool that’s being utilized in in in Mexico as a recruiting tool. It’s propaganda tool as well. That’s what they’ll they’ll talk shit to each other through that medium.
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58:01
How did this kid get out?
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58:03
He he ran. I think he he he managed to prove himself a bit, and he managed to get the, favor of one of their leaders. And he told them, like, hey. I know you don’t wanna be here. You know, leave your shit and run, I guess. Don’t don’t come back. Don’t look back.
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58:20
Oh, so
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58:21
they let him run? They let him run. But not everybody gets that opportunity.
Speaker: 2
58:26
So it was just somebody who liked him, maybe?
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58:29
He he got he got he he he got he he he said he worked well in that organization. He got favor and eventually sai, you know what? I have a wife and a kid that I need to get back to. Is that is there a way? Let let him go.
Speaker: 2
58:40
How long was he being held?
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58:42
He I ai he he said something about six or eight months. And he he went through some shit. Ai most of what he went through was in and the border between Jalisco and Zacatecas where the Ai are trying to fight over that territory. It’s basically one of the corridors up into the border region of Mexico through Mexico. So that’s people are always fighting over these these regions.
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59:05
He he came back with PTSD, hearing loss. And, again, all these things are unknown. Like, he’s a Mexican kid without health insurance. Ai is he gonna know any of these things?
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59:17
Right.
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59:18
When I talked to him for a meh, he was like, oh, that makes sense. Oh, yeah. Do you drink a lot? Yeah. Oh, I know why. I Ai used to drink a shit ton, you know. The ai? Yeah. Like, ai moments? Yeah. Like, this sounds like you have PTSD, dude. Like, sit down.
Speaker: 3
59:37
So but he’s, like, one in a thousand thousands of kids like that out there who are have gone through some of these things, both on the military and police side and also the cartel side. Highly traumatized ai that just but there’s no there’s nothing for them down there. If they talk about what they did, they’re in trouble.
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59:57
If they look for help, there’s no help out there. So this kid is trying to reform his life with all this fucking damage in him. He lost his family Wow. That he fought so much to get back to, Which is, you know, this is just it’s one small one small story and tragedy of but you go to Jalisco, and they have a roundabout there in Jalisco.
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01:00:23
It’s ai the missing arya, and it’s covered in posters of missing people, in in Guadalajara. It is ai, one of those zombie movies where they have all these, but, like, the where the all the missing people posters on the because zombie outbreak happened. It’s It’s like that, except it’s people. A 100 over a 100,000 according to official numbers in Mexico as far as missing. It’s gone.
Speaker: 3
01:00:51
And that’s another aspect of this this this war that people don’t kinda, like, realize. The numbers are skewed, you know, because there’s no there’s no confirmed dead person for a number of the amount of people murdered if there’s no body. And Mexico has become very good at getting rid of bodies, the cultures in Mexico. I was in Coahuila, working with a with a with a tactical group out there.
Speaker: 3
01:01:21
They they they, they showed meh. I mean, I’m always learning from people. Different regions have different ways of getting rid rid of bodies. You know? Some just burn them.
Speaker: 3
01:01:32
Just throw a few fuel on them to see if they can burn. In this part of the country, Coahuila, which is on the East side of the, the country, they will heat up fuel drums with diesel inside of them. And diesels diesel can get really hot without ai, and that’s where they put the bodies inside. Basically, boil them down to their essential essence.
Speaker: 3
01:01:52
And there’s nothing to find is what they tell me with that process. You go to my hometown of Tijuana, that’s where we had a
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01:02:03
cauldrons of diesel to dispose bodies.
Speaker: 3
01:02:06
Yeah. And then you you go to Tijuana where I’m from and then you got the the phenomenon of, phenomenon of a pozzolero who would get rid of people with caustic soda. Just a mixture of chemicals that you could ai, find vatsal hardware store, and they would make people into pink slurry, and they just dump the pink slurry in a hole and just cover it up.
Speaker: 3
01:02:26
So the numbers that we see as far as dead and dead and missing, there’s there’s it’s it’s not a real number. It has to be bigger. You know, it’s it it is a it is a place where you’ll go into some towns and there’s just a bunch of old men and females because all the all the men were gone.
Speaker: 3
01:02:45
You know? Or you’ll see, you’ll see, like, these abandoned graves in some place. This, there was I talked to a lady who’s a part of some of these, there’s these organizations all over the country right now. They’re grassroots organizations that are basically just dedicated to finding clandestine body disposal places. They’re looking for their family members, basically.
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01:03:10
How do you say that word? Isagwiri?
Speaker: 3
01:03:13
That yeah. That’s a that’s sai that’s a that’s the the one I told you that was peep people were trying to make it seem like this was, like, an an extermination camp. How do you say the word?
Speaker: 2
01:03:24
Ai concentrations of ash suggest the presence of clandestine crematoriums.
Speaker: 3
01:03:29
Yeah. It it it it bodies were disposed of there not at the volume of an Auschwitz level thing, but, yeah. There there were definitely people getting burned there.
Speaker: 2
01:03:39
So they’re just killing people all the ai.
Speaker: 3
01:03:42
Yeah. I mean, body disposal to a level where there’s nothing left is is something you do in a place where you’re worried about the government catching you. But this is this is Guadalajara, ai is at least because it’s new generation cartel territory they’re not worried about, but body being found.
Speaker: 3
01:03:56
There’s no for the forensic services in some of these places are ai ai here here’s some spent casings from this murder. Oh, thank you. Just throw them in this hill of the ai held casings that they have in this evidence locker. Right? They’re overwhelmed. There’s no Ai guess, there’s a moment.
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01:04:15
You can’t solve any crimes.
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01:04:17
You’re dead. 90% of all Imagine
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01:04:19
your job, if you do it well, you’re dead.
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01:04:22
Yeah. Exactly.
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01:04:23
But you’re not gonna do it well.
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01:04:25
No. Ninety percent of all murders in Mexico are never solved.
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01:04:27
90.
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01:04:29
Maybe a bit over that. Sai it’s, you you you you have this cartel now that is you know, you have El Mayo Zambada is gone. El Chapo’s sons are cutting a deal. One of them apparently has made an alliance with the the head of the the the new generation cartel, a man by El Mencho. His nickname is El Mencho.
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01:04:54
Nemecio Seguela Cervantes is his real name. Last time I was here, there was, like, ai sai almost five years ago Sai was here. There were questions about if he was even alive or not. You know, people thought that he was, like, being kept alive as a folk figure, because he’s low key, very low key. Not like he’s not flashy. Everything’s militarized.
Speaker: 3
01:05:15
He’s very good at his bryden ram. But recently, you know, he’s very much alive. He’s very much, exposed himself a few times. He was almost arrested recently, and the federal police apparently tipped off his security about the operation against them. It’s the second time he was almost arrested. Arrested.
Speaker: 3
01:05:35
He’s the biggest target right now in Mexico. We recently learned through the media of, the the Trump’s authorization of utilizing military action in in Meh in Latin America in general, you know, all the way from Venezuela, all the way up to Mexico. And, you know, you hear these rumblings of, like, how is this military operation gonna look like? Is this gonna be an invasion?
Speaker: 3
01:05:58
You ai, is are we gonna see, like, a column of US marines driving down to Tijuana? We’ll probably meh speak some time in Tijuana for it’s probably not a good good idea. Are we gonna see, like, people, Delta Force guys showing up in in Tijuana, in in Culiacan and and going on a raid on on their own without permission of the local authorities?
Speaker: 3
01:06:18
What’s this gonna look like? I I don’t see a direct trust between Mexico and The Meh and The United States anymore. There’s, like, there’s issues there. The US has realized that politics are are compromised at high level in Mexico.
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01:06:37
Completely.
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01:06:38
With the example of the recent almost arrest of, Nimesio Segah Cervantes Olmenco, you see that the federal forces are compromised as well. So, like, who do you trust as an American force that is trying to, cut the stem of drugs into this country is is is ai of the excuse that they’re utilizing for this designation.
Speaker: 3
01:06:58
And then who who do you trust down there? Ai I posted, I I’m I’m I’m friends with a bunch of dorks, and they’re all looking at flight tracker and intelligence and stuff like that. And I’m a dork too. And one of them sent me this this, suspicious drone American drone flying over the state of Mexico in circles. And I posted it immediately.
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01:07:22
You ai, I think I was one of the first ones to post it online. And a press briefing happened almost immediately. And the head of, public safety in Mexico, Omar Garcia Jarrar Fusa, like, oh, yeah. This is we asked for this drone to fly over this area. Who did you ask?
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01:07:40
This is not a military drone, but we asked for it to fly over this arya, which I I don’t think he knows what’s ai fuck is going on. I don’t know why the I don’t think I don’t think he knows why there’s a drone flying out over a very specific part of Mexico. I don’t know. It seemed like he didn’t or either he didn’t sana reveal the this this drone or but, there there have been many times recently of drones just flying close to the close to the border or over over Mexico.
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01:08:07
They’re clearly drawing a map, an intelligence map of targets in Mexico. So something is coming, I think.
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01:08:14
Woah. But what
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01:08:16
is it gonna look ai, though, is the question that people are asking. I Ai don’t know. Speak to somebody ai, Gafe down in Meh, he was a former member of the speak operations. And I asked him, like, hey. What is the military gonna do if The US says, like, we’re going in without your approval?
Speaker: 3
01:08:36
He said, well, you if you start fighting the cartels without approval of the Mexican government, you will turn criminal organizations into freedom fighters. And they’re already integrated into the military in certain ways because some of them are working for them and some of them are working for us.
Speaker: 3
01:08:57
So you will make the whole a cohesive force against you. Oh, boy. Which is an interesting theory, you know, if that happens.
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01:09:07
That seems
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01:09:08
likely. It
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01:09:09
it does.
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01:09:10
I mean Yeah. Because there’s, like, anti US sentiment already. It is. And then also the the closing of the borders and
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01:09:16
It’s a perfect storm. I mean Yeah. Trump is divisive. And in Mexico, he has been turned into this very, clear, like, enemy. Like, this is the enemy. You know? Specifically ai politicians down there, he’s pretty easy to just vilify. Like, it’s sai. You know? Why is Sinaloa on fire?
Speaker: 3
01:09:39
Maybe it’s because you have a corrupt governor there who was clearly in cartel ties and stuff like that, who’s part of your party, but you haven’t figured out how to get him out of office. Maybe it’s that or no. It’s The US because they abducted El Mayo. That’s why that place is on fire.
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01:09:53
That’s why
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01:09:53
they charge someone with treason.
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01:09:55
That’s why they charge somebody with high treason, which is unheard of. But there you go. So, like, who who are you gonna trust in that realm? And so Mexico has pressed the whole The US is is responsible for this, and they’re ai wiping their hands from it. And The US is keeps pointing their finger at the high level government, which is something, again, ai years ago, I I spoke about this on this podcast, and I got a lot of shit for for it.
Speaker: 3
01:10:23
I said, there’s no way of going after cartels in Mexico without going after the government because they’re one and the same in a lot of places. And that was back then, and now it’s even more clear as how ai they are.
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01:10:36
If nothing happens, if The United States doesn’t do anything, how much bigger can the cartels get? This is the question. It’s like Yeah. What is going to happen to just this entire country? The the if you have a if you have an and this
Speaker: 3
01:10:57
is what that that’s why you have a lot of conflicts happening in routes that are leading towards the border. The sana saloni cartel operated in a very old fashioned way. You know? They wouldn’t no ai in the comas. It it it was their politics. Don’t shit where you eat was their politics for a long time.
Speaker: 3
01:11:15
You you saw a change in this when, I don’t know, the brutality aspect and how this shah changed in Mexico. There was an incident. Members of Los Arellano Felix cartel, the Tijuana cartel, were in a direct conflict with elements of El Chapo Guzman’s organization. And they had a assassin.
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01:11:40
They had an assassin basically infiltrate the living circle of one of El Chapo’s main guys, Eduardo Palma. And he seduced his wife, killed her, and abducted his kids, and threw them off a bryden, and sent that video to. And I think after I mean, brutal shit had happened after that before that, but I think that set off this.
Speaker: 3
01:12:12
At some point, that whole war that happened, you know, you start getting the element of the sai that’s coming in who were former special operator guys who basically sai, like, we can start our own cartel, which a lot of them were Fort Bragg trained individuals that went down to you know?
Speaker: 3
01:12:33
Some of them some of them went through the Green Beret course. Foreign nationals go through that course a lot. So they went to the Green Beret course, and then they go back to Mexico. And then as soon as they get back to Mexico, like, oh, congratulations on your cool Green Beret and all this training.
Speaker: 3
01:12:48
Come train the hard guys or come work for us. So at some point, all of this started militarizing the conflict in Mexico. It went from gang against gang violence, which is, like, very reminiscent of some of the stuff that happened up here during the gang, era, or some of the Al Capone era, you know, shootouts between people.
Speaker: 3
01:13:13
The Zetas changed the game. They started bringing in guerrilla warfare tactics into the into into this realm. They started doing all those torture videos and cartel execution videos. That’s that that comes from them. They ai that, you know, part of a guerrilla warfare campaign is propaganda.
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01:13:36
And how can you make propaganda of shooting a guy in the field? Right. Filming. So they changed that game. They arya realizing that, yeah, it’s one thing having a kid with, like, sneakers on the back of a truck with an AK whose dad was part of the organization and he brought his kid in.
Speaker: 3
01:13:54
But it’s probably a better idea to have militarized or paramilitary groups working with us. You know? So they started getting these evolutions of ideas of what a criminal organization should be. And all of that, you know, the members of the new generation cartel that is now kind of, like, dominating Mexico started off as a Zeta hunting force by the scene that the scene of the law cartel formed in Jalisco.
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01:14:20
And they said, like, well, we can do this for ourselves now too as well. So that’s how they originated in a lot of ways. So this organization has taken the textbook learning process of all these other cartels and is now this cartel with all this foundation, educational foundation, as far as how to set up an organization, how to set up all these transnational routes, how to operate on both sides of the border, how to augment their capabilities constantly through technology.
Speaker: 3
01:14:48
Drone warfare was first seen, I think, in Mexico. You start you saw drones dropping bombs and shit like that in Mexico before the Ukrainian conflict, but they got really good at it. I mean, the Ukrainians have fucking taken that shit to an art form. There are Mexican nationals fighting for their foreign services, their foreign, brigades in in the Ukraine.
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01:15:13
And some of them have gone into that route, drone operators. And some of them are coming back. And you started seeing this sudden sophistication. It used to be bomblets dropped from these commercial drones, and the explosives in them were probably mining level explosives. You start seeing these, these, bomblets made, and they’re more reminiscent of Colombian explosives, or IRA era explosives.
Speaker: 3
01:15:40
And now you’re seeing these, coordinated drone attacks on military forces in Mexico. I think they recently got a some high ai, army official. They got him with a drone. I didn’t didn’t kill him, but they almost they almost killed him. So we started seeing these drone now being op drones now being operated, as scouts, so you can’t get close to them because these drones are in the sky.
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01:16:03
So now you’re seeing drone, cartels fighting against other cartel drones. So now we’re seeing cartel guys with these futuristic drone anti drone guns
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01:16:13
in the field. Seen those things.
Speaker: 3
01:16:14
Yeah. They look like space guns, but they but on the hands of a cartel guy wearing, like, sandals, which is what’s go what the fuck is going on with these people? So you start seeing all this augmentation of capabilities. This single cartel now has all of this history behind it, all of these lessons behind it, all this training behind it, all this technology.
Speaker: 3
01:16:34
And it is poised to make punch a hole right through its territory and go up north into The United States. Right? There are no segments of the border wall currently that is that are actually controlled and or or a city that is controlled by the new generation cartel that is on the border.
Speaker: 3
01:16:54
That’s not the case now. But there are places that are starting to maybe look like they’re going that way. Tijuana being one of them, where I’m from. You start seeing, the last remaining sons of El Chapagoes when they’re free. Archivalo is the strongest one.
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01:17:12
And his faction of Los Chapitos is is what they call themselves this past year, announced that they had reached an alliance with this new cartel, this new generation cartel. So it’s now it’s a cohesive force, and they had historical ties and and and and and and and a part of the border that they owned already that they inherited from their dad.
Speaker: 3
01:17:33
So that nightmare scenario having this cartel now having a clear doorway into Ai States is pretty close if it’s not there already.
Speaker: 2
01:17:42
And how wild would it be if the border was still wide open? Because ai cut down on illegal immigrants by some high 90%.
Speaker: 3
01:17:51
Yeah. It’s it’s way down. There’s still crossings going on. Oh, yeah. It’s really expensive. It’s really expensive.
Speaker: 2
01:17:57
You gotta get that guy off TikTok.
Speaker: 3
01:17:58
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there’s a bunch of ways they do. I saw one where they were ai, hey, they’ll ram a a portfolio full of, copies of IDs And ai, oh, you look like this dude. And then they’ll give you, you know, they’ll sai, like, just get really drunk before you cross and pretend you’re asleep.
Speaker: 3
01:18:19
And they’ll give you paperwork that looks like the dude that looks like you. And that’s how they cross up people, and that’s a lot it’s very expensive. That’s how they cross you. Fast boats, you know? There’s a bunch of videos ai, just boats just arriving on the beach and just dudes jumping out.
Speaker: 3
01:18:34
It’s a classic They’re running. And running. There’s like Ai
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01:18:36
they’re in, they’re in.
Speaker: 3
01:18:37
There’s a shortage of those, wave runners. There’s a shortage of them in Mexico because they just buy them just sai
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01:18:43
Well, short trip. I mean, if you think if you’re you get on one in Tijuana and you hop over to San Diego
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01:18:49
Yeah.
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01:18:49
That’s not that far.
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01:18:50
No. And and and they and they’ll swarm it now. They’ll do many of those boats. And and if you were in TJ, you you could see off the coast. There’s a bunch of our, Navy ships now off the coast there. So, like which is a cause for alarm for a lot of Mexicans. The next when I say Meh view any sort of intervention by United States with fear.
Speaker: 3
01:19:10
Although they are also fearful of what happens if this is allowed to continue in Mexico, and they don’t see any solutions from the government. Sai It
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01:19:20
seems like the opposite. It seems like it’s going more and more towards the cartel. Yeah. So what would happen if The United States didn’t infiltrate? If The United States didn’t attack, if something didn’t happen, if they just
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01:19:31
I Ai think that’s stepped ai. I think we’re already involved, you know, this this the this arrest of Sana Zambada, this, this this designation that allows a lot of things, safety safety is off ai of thing against Meh against, some of these cartels. What’s worrying in the eyes of Mexico and in the eyes of, Mexicans, I guess, the, you know, the fact that there was a promise of no negotiating with terrorists or it’s at least it’s it’s something that is assumed.
Speaker: 3
01:20:01
You know? You don’t negotiate with terrorists. It’s like a thing you you know? But all of a sudden, one of these factions just made a deal, and now they do. They’re negotiating with them, and now all these people are crossing that border.
Speaker: 3
01:20:12
Their family members are crossing that border now in the safety of The United States. The dude that The United States made a deal with is responsible for the death of a few special operators that were a part of his arrest. What what are they gonna tell their families of of that loss and why they died? You know?
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01:20:30
And also the the the piles of bodies that were around after both of his arrest attempts. So there’s distrust on all sides. Mexicans don’t trust the government to solve it because it’s a
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What’s the deal with your president? What’s her deal?
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Shah meh. Woke. Very woke. Very to the left. A few guerrilla forces in in Central America have come out and said that she’s one of her that she was one of the resistance fighters with them. Jewish heritage That’s kinda odd. It is very odd for Mexico. Very loved by large segments segments of the population.
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What is meh about it that she’s loved? Like, what is about her policies or
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what she represents? Sai think she’s feeding off a lot of the love that they had for AMLO. AMLO AMLO was our Trump. That’s the best way of describing him. Popular populous guy, drained the swamp rhetoric, ai, all these other guys, all of the they’re the the conservatives can go, they’re gone. We’re gonna win this.
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He won by a landslide. But he keeps talking he kept talking about conservatives and the the previous parties and then but but all the Moreno party is made up of all these other politicians just switching sides and joining his party. Sai, you know, Shah meh Shay mom came in with a big job on her hands as far as security. She immediately reversed the whole of Raso and the Velasos.
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I mean, there’s Velasos on the table now. You know? I recognize that. She brought into the into, into office with her, man.
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What did you mean by that? When you sai Velasos, was it?
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Ai no Velasos. Like, hugs not hugs not bullets. She got rid of vatsal. Now there’s there’s a lot more there’s a lot of Velasos. There’s more bullets now. Okay. There’s a man in power right now, a security official named Omar Garcia Jarfush, who he has sai sordid history in Mexico.
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He comes from peep there’s there he has been in circles of people that have been involved in some shit, but he himself has not been there’s nothing on him that we know of. You know? Yeah. Super policia, the super cop is what he called. He’s very well loved by his men.
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I actually talked to a few people that work directly with him. He’s he seems to be ai a guy who’s willing to go up to task. And he’s receiving all this pressure from The United States. So, like, we need results from you guys. Like, what are you doing?
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So he has he has been heading up operations against some of these organizations, specifically in Sinaloa, and we’ve seen record breaking, fentanyl, seizures, and high level politicians being caught up in some of these things. And, specifically, the interesting part of the operations he’s conducting all over Mexico was he’s actually going after municipalities.
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So he’s going after, like, municipal presidents and some of the government local governments that are basically all corrupted. He realizes that, hey. Where’s the cartel here? Oh, the cartel sai they do these mass swarm operations on some of these places where they arrest the police chief. They arrest the mayor.
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The the there this is that he’s realizes that this is the front that he has to now fight because the cartel isn’t just these organizations out in the hills anymore. They’re inside. They’re infiltrated. They’re in politics, you know. And people think about drugs only, but drugs don’t that these cartels are fighting for shah you call as well, fuel trafficking. You know, there was a family Avocados. Avocados.
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If you go to if you go if you if you go to Chipotle and order extra guac, you’re putting money in the in the pockets of this new generation cartel and or the Familia Mexicana. How crazy is that? It’s wild. And and and it’s it’s, fuel theft. And the fuel theft ai of it, what shah calls what they call it in Mexico, is interesting.
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But that catches that, that, puts in a lot of people in The United States that have been involved in it, taking illegally siphoned fuel from Mexico by some of these criminal organizations, putting in on a ship and and then doing a lot of magic with the paperwork, and then it ended up ending it up and ending up in The US and money exchanging weird hands.
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So that’s another side of it that people don’t kinda realize. One of the
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Look at this. Mexican authorities seized nearly 4,000,000 gallons of stolen fuel. AP News.
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This has been going on for years and against another part of the way they finance themselves and these criminal organizations have been able to grow without Yeah. They branch out. Though they they diversified years ago.
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Yeah. So they’re not just because even if you shut off the drugs totally, they’re still making billions.
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And and low key, Mexico shah become first world in a lot of ways. First, we’re, you know, we’re welcoming all your huddled masses. You know, Mexico is. Mexico is the the la stato the the Statue Of Liberty. All the economic migrants that can’t afford to live here in The US Mhmm. Move to Mexico.
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Oh, yeah. A lot of people do.
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There’s, like, giant communities of Meh living down there. When meh were in Jalisco, we were surprised to find, like, goddamn gringos living in the middle of cartel territory.
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Well, weren’t the Mormons the first people to do that?
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They they were they’re they’re some of the first ones to do this some of these communities, but, like, expat communities down in Mexico are common. Yeah. The Mormons were pretty big down there. Actually, yeah. Yeah. That there’s you know, they they, you know, I think the last time I was here was when that that massacre happened.
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Yes. Yes.
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So they’re they’re, They have
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Mormon compounds in Mexico.
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Yeah. Armed. Yeah. Yeah. They they they
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That have been there since the eighteen hundreds.
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01:26:18
Yeah. Mitt Romney’s dad was a Mexican.
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Yeah. Yeah. Mitt Romney’s dad was born in Meh. That’s why he couldn’t be president in The United States. Wild. Wild. Yeah. And Mitt Romney’s dad was a part of one of those massive encampments of armed people Yeah. Protecting Joseph Smith’s ideas.
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Yeah. Crazy. Oh, also, like, I remember, like, when I talked about it on on this podcast, Mormons from The US corrected me and said that those guys weren’t real Mormons.
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01:26:49
Oh, how convenient. And I’m like, I don’t then Well, didn’t they go over there because they want didn’t sana get rid of polygamy?
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I think so. Sai think there there was there
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was they should have stuck around. It’s coming back. But the Polygamy is back in Toronto. Oh, cool. Yeah. Canada because of Islam. Because, so many Muslims have moved to Toronto, they made polygamy legal again.
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Yeah. I was in Canada recently. I was like, wow. It’s It’s pretty interesting.
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Yeah. Good job, guys. Keep keep at it.
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01:27:16
The Ai I I think Mexico was on its Mexico is probably the if you can invest in any country in the world right now, I think Mexico would be it. Really? The industrial plant that is that that has, a lot of the stuff that is leaving Ai, it’s moving to Mexico, youth, and has a consumer base that is growing exponentially.
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01:27:38
So how do you get Population.
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All the ai. Is that possible at this point in time? Is it so soaked into the culture?
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I think it is. I think Yeah. I think we’re a point a tipping point where the Mexican Mexican culture as in general is, like, sick of it. Like, it it doesn’t want this shit anymore. We’re seeing attacks on freedom of expression in Mexico in a way because, some of these popular singers that would sing cartel songs are now Narco songs.
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Banned from performing performing them live. So that’s ai an attack on freedom of speak. But pop population is pretty cool with it, though. They’re letting it ai. So it means that they’re they’re kinda, like, ready to give up shit.
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It became an issue in Meh. Right? Where there was a popular singer that they wouldn’t allow back into the country, and he has these huge sold out arena shows.
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01:28:29
Yeah. The the I mean, ai, I talked about how if you’re gonna attack these organizations, you have to attack all of these or ai, just like you attack Al Qaeda, you attack who finances them, who and a lot of these a lot of these, organizations were basically utilizing some of these popular singers to launder money or to gain influence in The US or to sing about their exploits.
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01:28:53
They would pay them to sing about their exploits. So when this designation came down, it was clear that some of these guys were on the chopping block. The terrorist designation came down from the government. The US government is clear that some of these singers are gonna be on the chopping block. Wow.
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Another phenomenon is that The US is actually,
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Just the guy.
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4,000,000, listeners on Spotify every month.
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Yeah. He’s one of many.
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Parking lot yesterday.
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There’s a
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He was killed in a parking lot yesterday? Oh, wow. Musicians celebrated drug cartel exploits and song shah dead in parking lot in Mexico.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is This
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is yesterday.
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Yeah. Enigma
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Was this today?
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The Enigma It’s just 20.
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01:29:31
Wow. Yeah. This is the singer, yeah, Grupo Enigma. He used to hang out with Ai Zambala and El Chapo Guzman and talk about it openly on podcast in Meh. And, you know, that’s another phenomenon that’s currently happening. YouTubers. Since since it was so normalized in Mexico, you’ve just a bunch of YouTubers started popping up ai, I’m a cartel YouTuber. I’m gonna talk about cartel stuff on YouTube.
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And and, they’ve been getting when when the when the Chapitos and the Ai started fighting over Sinaloa, those Mayos put a plane up and started, dispersing pamphlets with pictures of all the YouTube influencers that they’ve that they knew were helping out the the Chapitos faction or they were working with them.
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And they’ve been going down that list. They recently killed one one one dude, at his house who was talking about cartels. You know? So Like TMZ for cartels? Yeah.
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Yeah. They they they the the the the the the hackers that that that’s him. The he, apparently, the cartel hired a a hacker to figure out to send a link to his wife that she opened, and they tracked the tracked the they tracked the more they were hiding. Wow. Like, he he was he’s he’s all he was all over, social media in Mexico and and even even regular media in Mexico talking about the cartels.
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As of Sunday, no arrests have been reported.
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No. Somebody just walked into his house with a ski mask and shot him through the bathroom door when he tried to hold it shut. And, like, this is these are all signs that the populous in Mexico, independently of cartels, just the the general mass of Meh is this is the tipping point.
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They’re done with this. They don’t want this anymore, which, you know, what do you do with that energy, that momentum?
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01:31:35
How many people are we talking about
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when you’re talking about all the cartels? How many like people are in there? Yeah. These are Ai, how big Thousands. I I’d say So
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01:31:44
if it was an army, how big would the army be?
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01:31:47
I don’t know. 400,000 people maybe?
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01:31:50
Woah.
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Just ai doing doing really quick math in my ai. I was like, approximations of how many new generation cartel members are apparently out there, which there’s no way real way of knowing, but there are the formulation How many
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01:32:04
Taliban were in Afghanistan?
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I don’t I don’t know.
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That’s a Ram, Google that. In the height of the war, how many Taliban were in Afghanistan?
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And and and and and and then you you see these organizations. I mean, there’s the people fighting out there, the people in charge, the people settling up shop, the people in finance, the people that are running the shell companies, the people that are running the actual companies because these cartels own companies.
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You know? Sai, like, how Okay.
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Look at this. Early estimates from 2001 to 2017 range from 45,000 to 60,000.
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Yeah. I think it’s way there’s way more fighters down there than that.
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01:32:41
How crazy is that? So we were we spent trillions of dollars. We’re there for twenty years in Afghanistan for 60,000 dudes Yeah. That were ai hiding out in the mountains. Yeah.
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That’s And
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then we left and we left behind Blackhawk helicopters, tanks.
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And a lot of the and a lot of those firearms are showing up in Mexico.
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Oh, of course.
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They’re for sale. The the the the the the the ai vision equipment or the night vision, like, high, ai, expensive. I know about night vision. I’ve been learning about all this stuff in The US, from my friends who are all gun nuts. And I’m looking at, like, oh, ai. Look at these.
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Ai, dude, where are those? They’re in a house in Culiacan. It’s ai, holy shit, dude. How the fuck did they get from there’s routes.
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I bet dudes got on a plane the moment The US left. They’re like, look at all this shit. We got money. Let’s make a deal with these guys.
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Yeah. Weaponry is coming coming in from that side. Obviously, The US is responsible for most of the gun running down to Mexico.
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01:33:43
Well, let’s talk about operation Fast and Furious, which was bananas.
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01:33:48
Sai wide receiver. It started off as wide receiver, I think.
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01:33:51
That was the original name for it?
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01:33:53
It’s it’s sai Bush era.
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Explain it to people. What what happened? Ai Bush administration, it was ai receiver, and then Obama administration
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01:34:00
was fast and furious? And, again, I’m I’m gonna speak of this. My participation in all this was I was in Mexico, and a bunch of my friends got killed with those guns. Wow. We started to see just imagine Ai I’m I’m in my twenties back then, and, you know, we meh in shootouts and people arya running around with guns and stuff like that.
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It’s mostly ai AR fifteens, AK 47. Some of them are really rusty and old. Norengo rifles from China. Just weird firearms. And all of a sudden, you start finding people with 50 caliber Barrett rifles with scopes on them, zeroed in in the box with munitions and and and then you look at the box where it came in and you see a label that says Arizona on it.
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And you’re like, you know, that’s a weird thing to find on this fucking crack house that we’re at. And then a few of my friends got killed with these FN five seven pistols that come it’s a it’s a high velocity round that comes in them. It was kind of fabricated in the Cold War to fight Russians invading Europe, and they wanted to be able to penetrate their body armor with small pistols and small sai guns that they might have in urban areas.
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01:35:13
So we started seeing those. And just just a massive amount of firearms being delivered specifically to the scene in law cartel groups in the area we’re working with. And we didn’t know anything about it, like, where all these things come from. Apparently, in The US, during the Bush administration, they started an operation that was meant to track firearms being straw purchased in places like Arizona, and other parts of The US ai individuals being gathered by cartel members, put into cars, and then driven down to Mexico to supply the cartels.
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The ATF was involved in all this. Eric Holder was very involved in all this. Their plan or theory was we’re gonna track these guns when they go down to Mexico. But nothing got tracked, or at least we don’t know of anything that got really tracked or any high level arrest made because of the guns that they they were just allowed to What do you think is really going on?
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Because that sounds like a bullshit cover. We’re just tracking these guns.
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I mean, what do you do when you wanna destabilize ai if you’re another country? You give guns to the shah suckers.
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Why why would they wanna destabilize them in in such a immoral way that they they needed this to happen so badly. They’re willing to give them weapons to kill each other.
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I mean, it’s a it’s it’s it’s a back then, it was a Sana cartel trying to fight control over the arya, over some people that were coming ai the Meh does in other organizations. And I don’t know why why would you send guns to this specific region. I’m not I’m not saying that The US purposely armed a single cartel in Mexico, but that’s what it kinda looks like.
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Yeah. You
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know? That’s what it looks like.
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01:36:57
Ai that’s the only thing.
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01:36:59
And this Shah was the purpose of it. And this is what we saw because, you know, a lot of the a lot of the things that they were because it looked like a laundry list. Is that some of the stuff that they were bringing down 50 count why do you think 50 calibers started getting, like, were so hot back and still aren’t so hot?
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It’s because people started doing armor. So they need a way to getting getting through armor. So 50 cal. Right? And Americans, especially some of my American military and and police friends, are always making fun of the fact that none of these big ass rifles have any sights on them.
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They do have sights on them, but they get stolen by the cops before they put them in front of the picture for the news. But Ai heard. I’ve heard. It wasn’t me.
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That makes sense. Get a nice expensive Yeah. Red dot on that. Fuck you.
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01:37:49
These ai don’t even have sights on their guns. They can shoot. They can shoot far. They could shoot they could shoot well. Some of them, not all of them.
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Yeah. If they’ve got expensive guns, of course, they’ve got sights. Yeah. That’s ridiculous.
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Yeah. But everything gets stripped off, you know, donations. Of course. Makes sense. These these started showing up in Mexico. A bunch of people started dying. And then two federal agents that were doing a protection detail ai down there during, a cartel shootout. I’m not too sure on the details of this, but, they’re involved in a shootout in Mexico. They were doing a protection detail down there.
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One of them was a border patrol agent assigned to this, Ryan Terry. He set up they actually set up a found they set up a foundation to in in his memory, and I I think I raised, like, a few grand for this foundation. And I did that only as a point to, like, be able to say, hey. Yeah.
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I raised this money for this foundation to honor this fallen police officer that was going that was in Mexico that was killed by American guns that were given to the cartels to bring attention to the fact that, you know, we know who Ryan Terry is, but do we know who my friends are who were killed by ai these guns?
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Arya lot of the unknown people that were killed by some of these guns that were allowed to walk through that border knowingly by ATF officials even though the people running these gun shah were like, hey, dude. Are you sure? Like, there’s they sana, like, four AKs. Like, are you sure? Yeah.
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Yeah. Let ai walk. We’re we’re
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they were they’re under surveillance. We we’re we’re tracking these. And then he was good go down.
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01:39:16
Sai if you had to imagine no one’s saying this is true. But if you had to imagine what kind of a deal would be made where you would guarantee the shipment of weapons from The United States into Mexico by the federal government, for what purpose?
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To destabilize? Destabilize, support a specific faction.
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01:39:39
Right. But that’s the question. Why them? And, like, because Was it money? Was it influence? Were they working on something? You know, there’s a lot of
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01:39:46
We’re we’re we’re in the realm of theory right now. Of course. But, El Ai Zambala learned his trade ram in Los Angeles in fifty years ago. And one of the people that was instrumental in showing him how to run drugs and move things through countries was a man who was a Castro era police officer who was involved in the Bay of Pig incidents.
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Woah. That man married his, El Ai sister, and that’s who taught El Mayo Zambada everything he knew about moving things around ai. Wow. So I’m not gonna say the Ai. But
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Oh ai god. Well, you know, I’ve had, Freeway Ricky Ross on the podcast multiple times. And for people who haven’t seen those episodes or heard me talk about Ricky, Ricky is the real Rick Ross. Like, Rick Ross, the rapper, that’s not his name. He named himself Rick Ross because Freeway Ricky was a legend. He was a legend in Los Angeles.
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He was the number one cocaine dealer in Los Angeles and he was getting it all from the CIA. And he was helping funding the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. And he had no idea because he couldn’t even read.
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Yeah. And that same contra situation pops up again with the death of Kiki Camarena, the DEA agent. They one of the people one of the there was two major prisoner extraditions of cartel members from Mexico to The US, and the first one, that came through, I think a year ago was, the the the apparent murderer of Kiki Camarena, cartel member.
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And they’ve always pinned it on him. Like, he like, the cartels were that there was this giant grove of marijuana out there and that Kiki Camarena saw it and reported it. And Caro Quintero, who owned this plantation, had him killed. Right? And we actually went down to Jalisco where he was tortured and killed and talked to the locals there, and they were ai, oh, la Casa de la Cia.
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01:41:52
Like, the the CIA house. Ai, what? That’s what some of the people there sai. And I
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01:41:57
Have you ever seen the video of Michael Rupert, who’s was a friend of mine who passed away years back? He, he was a former Los Angeles narcotics officer.
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Mhmm. And he
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was on C SPAN, at a hearing. And during the during the hearing said I have personally witnessed the CIA selling drugs in Los Angeles, and everybody goes fucking crazy. It is the wildest thing to see because this is ai Jamie, was that the nineties?
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Yeah. Do you remember?
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Were you around when Rupert was a guest? No. No. Rupert was pre Jamie.
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Wow.
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Yeah. So Rupert was on a couple of times and then, he took his own life one time. He was very depressed. I don’t I don’t doubt that he took his life. He was living predestitute. I think he was in a tyler.
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You know? I get it.
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01:42:49
It wasn’t the end wasn’t good, but there was a movie here, list list. Mike Rupert, 1996. Let’s play some of this because it is crazy. It’s crazy. This is all live on C SPAN.
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01:43:03
Los Angeles police narcotics detective, and I ai South Central Los Angeles. And I will tell you, director Deutsch emphatically and
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Can I get further into the mic, sai? These mics don’t seem to be
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I I will tell you director Deutsch as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time.
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01:43:23
Yo. It was great. And he goes into detail. And look at these are all LA people. They’re ai, fucking thank you.
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01:43:32
But it’s this is ai,
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01:43:34
I know the CIA is up there too
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01:43:35
Yeah. I believe at the moment.
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01:43:37
Yes. This is this
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is ai conspiracy theory. This never happened, but Exactly. There you go.
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01:43:42
Now, can you please Look at the
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01:43:43
head of the CIA.
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01:43:44
Now, can you please
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01:43:45
Look at him.
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01:43:46
I refer to it.
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01:43:47
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait a minute.
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01:43:51
That guy’s got a human skin suit on. That’s a demon.
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01:43:57
I mean, listen to what
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he talk when Grouper talks.
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01:44:00
Just wrote a note to that guy
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too. Yeah.
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Minutes here. Wait a minute. If you don’t like what’s going on here, please leave now. No. No. No. Leave. No. No. No. Leave now because there are others who do want to hear what’s going on in this room.
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Shout out to Juanita for getting control of the room because everybody went nuts when he said that. So he elaborate.
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Cross to the center section.
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I mean, when when you sai it went nuts.
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01:44:27
Director Deutscher
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They’re they’re looking at he talks
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to the director.
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Operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus, and Watchtower. I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency. I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late seventies to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.
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I have been trying to get this out for eighteen years, and I have the evidence. My question for you is very specific, sir. If in the course of the IG’s investigations and Fred Hitz’s work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity
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Let him speak in the mic.
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And it’s classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity, or will you tell the American people the truth?
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He’s like, should I handle this?
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They’re gonna activate the bomb in his head right there. Alright.
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You wanna hear the response first from congressman Julian Dixon and then from the director.
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He did. He’s like, I don’t sana talk.
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Wait. Wait a minute from your from your I’m sorry, sir. I will allow the director Look
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at that
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guy in the back with his fingers taken. Nervous.
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He’s he’s he’s there ai try and pull him out if something happens.
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Have information about CIA illegal activity I
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don’t know about those hands.
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That guy’s doing Bill Gates hands.
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Should immediately bring that information to wherever you want, but let me suggest three places. The Los Angeles Police Department.
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Please. Ai sorry. Others wanna hear this answer. I am sorry. Others wanna hear this.
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Check out the dude in the front with the leopard hat, the leopard scarf.
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Amazing. Amazing segment of time.
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Or, office of one of your congress, persons from this
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for a future. Years ago, sir.
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I got shot at for it.
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute, sir.
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Do you
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hear him? I did that eighteen years ago. I got shot for it. Jamie, find that find the trailer for that movie they did with him. So there was they were interviewing him. I forget what the entire premise of this thing was. They were interviewing him for something, and he was so intense.
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They decided to do an entire movie of just Michael Rupert sitting in a chair in ai a warehouse smoking cigarettes and talking about the collapse of the global economy.
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Got it.
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Collapse. Play the trailer for this because it’s so nuts. See if you can find the trailer for Collapsed.
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Yeah. The the whole CIA thing is This is Michael.
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We are all collectively responsible for what may be the greatest preventable holocaust in the history of planet Earth. I have thirty years of experience as an investigative journalist. I’ve broken major scandals going out to try and map how the world really worked as opposed to the way we were told it worked.
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Our map has proven deadly accurate economic predictions. Oh, we had it so right. In 02/2006, we said, get out of debt right now. Check your mortgage carefully. We issued a whole series of warnings. Nothing like we have ever seen before.
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That’s January 2005.
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What’s gonna happen is taking place right now. Gold prices, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the stock market. It’s not that Bernie Madoff was a pyramid scheme. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme. Of course, I’ve been called a conspiracy theorist, but I don’t deal in conspiracy theory. I deal in conspiracy fact.
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The mortal blow to human civilization will happen when oil prices spike and nobody can afford to buy that order, and everything will just shut down. Unlike the Great Depression, we do not have infinite resources. Nothing grows forever. There is a ai, birth, growth, maturation, decline, and death. Cars don’t run. Mail stops getting delivered.
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Planes don’t fly. Law enforcement stops working. This is all part of the collapse. If you’re in a camp and a bear attacks, you don’t have to be faster than the bear. You only have to be faster than the slowest camper.
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Challenge being faced by the human race now is either evolve or perish, grow up ai die. You have to believe, not hope, not pray that there’s a way out of it, and you’re gonna find it.
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The the the whole documentary, just this dude sitting there freaking you out. The the there
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there’s ai, our Mexico’s Mexico’s UFOs are it’s it’s always been ai Meh Bigfoot is CIA. Like, there have been, Ai Bendy, I think, was a he was a writer, in the ‘7 sixties, seventies. He was he would talk about the Ai, and he got shot. There, ai, recently, in the past ten years, a bunch of, CIA documents have come out of Mexican presidents being on the payroll by the CIA ram, like, all the like, all the cold war era presidents were, like, CIA agents pay on the payroll.
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So, Meh has this vision of the CIA and this and and The US’ perception of responsibilities. It’s
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probably more accurate.
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I mean, it’s direct. It was shocking to me when we were there at Kiki coming in, that house where he was kept ai I think tortured and and and and ai killed, that the people around there that have lived there when it happened, call some of them would call that the CIA house.
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So that was a that was a weird thing to and maybe they’ve been ai, like, polluted by all the all the stuff they’ve been looking at or seeing after that happened. But Or maybe they’re just being accurate. Maybe they’re just being accurate. Let’s say this in the again, realm of theory.
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You have The United States dealing with Mexico and ai eleven happens. And then you’re worried about things going through the border like a nuke. You know? You’re paranoid. Do you entrust the Mexican government to keep that border safe and tell you if anything goes through that bryden?
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Or you talk to the cartel that actually own that border? Who do you talk to?
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You have to talk to the cartels.
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So I think there’s there’s always been a backdoor channel communication there going on or direct communication going on of some sort.
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Which only makes sense.
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Yeah. And also makes
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I wonder how much of an influence it has in our drug laws. The Because sensible drug laws would treat all drugs the same way we treat alcohol. Yeah. Sensible. Because alcohol’s a drug, and we know that when we had a prohibition, it lasted for how many years? Like, thirteen years in this country?
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It did nothing but prop up organized crime.
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Yeah. And last time I came here, I was on my way to becoming alcohol sober. So alcohol is a very dangerous drug. You can kill yourself with it very easily. You could buy a bottle that will kill you. Yep. And no In
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any store.
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Any store. Yeah. I had to lock myself in a fucking ranch. I did it old school. Just fucking long
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How long did it take?
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My whole life, it’s gonna take, I think. I’m always gonna be I like to think about it, you know, ai. But I I I’ve been sober for about four years now. Congratulations. Thank you. That’s awesome.
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But It’s hard
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to do. It is not easy. Yeah.
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I don’t have the addiction gene, the physical addiction gene. I don’t know why. But, like, even I chew on these nicotine pouches all the time. Yeah. I went on vacation, and I sai, no nicotine. Let’s see what happens. For five days, I was fine. Nothing. Coffee, I sai, I’m gonna quit coffee.
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I quit coffee for five days. I’m like, no no weirdness.
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Yeah. I I think ram me, it was, medication. Mhmm. When I got out when I got out of work, I I had shit I had loads of PTSD the first time I was on the podcast, and we talked a little bit about it. And then afterwards, you, like, gave me some names of some people that Ai should talk to, and I I did.
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I went I went out and looked out for help. Eventually, I just got sober, but it’s insane to me how differently alcohol gets treated versus all other substances.
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What’s one of the only ones that if you get off it too quick, you’ll die?
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Yes. Which I did research Did you get real close to that? I had to I my heart I’d start feeling my heart do do shah. Woah.
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Did you think, well, Ai just have a little drinky poo and get back on track and do this slowly, a slow trip? When when
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I left the studio the last time, it was you’re still in LA. Mhmm. Ai marriage ended around that same time. You know? And I had a few things going on. PTSD and and trying to figure things out and drinking myself to sleep every third day because it’s the only way I can go through a sleepless through a dreamless night Oh.
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Was unsustainable. Sai my life was falling apart, and I had to, like, do something. I had a friend who owns a a big ram, and he had a cabin that I could stay in. He said, hey. You can stay here.
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How long did it take to
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I got there and I didn’t wanna feel like a freeloader, so I I I got there and I gave them they had a little small community, school there for the kids. So I I bought a TV and, like, DVDs and, like, gave them all this stuff.
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That’s awesome.
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Okay. Okay. Stay here. He he stand he stood me in front of everybody and said, this ai an alcoholic. If I catch anybody, give him an alcohol or if you see him, give meh an alcohol, you’re out. Embarrass me. Like, I felt like shah, but it gave me what I needed. Yeah. Third ai, shakes and sweats. Yeah. Just wild dreams.
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I I I I think I pissed myself, but it was a sweat. Then I started getting meh heart, chest fans, and shah like that going on. And I think it it it took me about two weeks, I think, to really, like, be, you know, on the level. It’s it’s don’t do it that way. It’s sai stupid way of doing it. You you almost die.
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Eventually, I got
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Some people do.
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Right?
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Yeah. I think that’s how Amy Winehouse died.
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Yes. That’s probably yeah. Yeah.
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That’s what isn’t that the case, Jamie? Don’t they think that Amy Winehouse died from complications of alcoholism of trying to get sober?
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Yeah. It it it is it is you you feel it. Whatever feel people often sai, like, feel I feel like I’m dying. Like, no. You that feels like you’re dying. Like, you like somebody sitting on your chest, and you can’t get up. And also your brain is screaming for something that it can’t get. Right.
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I I
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Alcohol poisoning after binge drinking following a period of abstinence. Oh, even worse.
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Eventually eventually, I started speaking about it. Ai guy I was embarrassed about it, but I started writing about it and publishing on my on my Instagram account just ai my experience with it. And I I got a lot of help from a lot of people.
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Did you ever do Ibogaine? Yeah.
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Yeah. It it did things. It opened up a few warm cans of worms of the past in meh. But it, yeah. It it helped.
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That’s the one thing that I hear over and over again for people that do suffer from PTSD and people that do suffer from addiction. Yeah. Ibogaine’s the one.
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It it, it’s like a weird converse it’s like a weird it’s like you you’ve avoided these very specific things for decades, and now there’s no way of avoiding them, and they’re there. And it’s like, you know, I don’t know. I don’t like, I don’t sana, it it it it it would led me on a path.
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And and and it, specifically opened up a bunch of doors for me in the realm of, you know, you know, I’m the cartel ai. And I, like, I used to do this, and that’s what I do when I train people on that. But then, some of them go Ai a guy going through alcohol sobriety in public. You know? Mhmm.
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I had Randy Blythe, the lead singer of Lamb of God, reach out out of nowhere. This random guy that I used to listen to when I was working, you know, meh headphones. He’s like, hey, Ed. Yeah. He’s speak. I’m out here.
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So I’m like, if you need do you have a sponsor? I was like, I never went to AA. I just fucking locked myself in a room. You’re stupid for doing that. But he, like, I’ll I’ll be your sponsor. He’s sai Oh, wow.
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So he started to
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How fucking cool is that? I’m still a sponsor. He’s
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he is. I don’t know. He’s he’s a he’s an amazing guy. Ai got that’s why I call him when I’m close. Mhmm. But, I yes. It is insane to think about the fact that the bottle of a bottle of liquor you can buy the store go kill you. All you all you have to show is your ID.
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Well, it’s the problem of addiction. You know, this is this this is the actual fuel that runs the cartel is there’s a giant problem in The United States of people and this appetite for illegal narcotics. Yes. And this pretending that people aren’t doing these drugs and, like, they’re pretending that making them illegal is gonna stop this. No.
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All you’re doing is propping up the cartel. That’s all you’re doing is funding the cartel. And then also helping the alcohol lobbyists in this in this country.
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Yeah. The, you know, the the perfect storm was, the outbreak of the prescription opioid epidemic in the in the in this country. That was ai this initiation of what later turned into, like, oh, well, this is off the table now because we passed all these laws and didn’t put some people in jail.
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They should’ve they should be in prison, some families that I don’t know how they’re free. Yeah. But then what takes its place? Somewhere in Mexico, people were growing poppies, and they said, ai, let’s add a little bit of fentanyl into these very weak poppy yields of heroin and see what it does.
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And it kicked. Oh, so that was the source of it that the heroin was weak?
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These these hillsides have been leached for years from growing weed on.
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So Oh, so the topsoil was bryden.
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Let’s let’s They
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were doing monocrop agriculture with drugs. Sai Oh ai god. Industrial monocrop agriculture with drugs led to fentanyl being introduced into them to make it more potent.
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Wow. And then also, weed legalization in parts like California led to interesting phenomenons. Some of these fields were no longer profitable, so they would switch to poppy. And one thing that people don’t realize is that a lot of these things get tested out first in the mark markets in Meh.
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Because Mexico has giant drug markets and that are fought over, And people will, you know, try this. You know, try this.
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Oh, boy. It’s ai trial samples that they hand out at the supermarket?
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Oh, no. So at some point in the past, somebody down in Jalisco probably tried the first load of Mexican fentanyl y loaded heroin. Somebody somewhere out there probably did the first hit and was like, holy shit. This is good. You got a winner here.
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Or died immediately.
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Or died.
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And they said, hey, that’s a little too potent. Yeah. Because the amount of fentanyl that you need to kill somebody so small.
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Yeah. But it it it was a hit here though. It was a giant hit here in The US. And then
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you Is it as big a problem in Mexico as it is in The United States?
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No. The the reason is the reason is wild though. It’s not because Mexico cracks down a fentanyl and there’s no fentanyl on the streets. It’s because the cartels down there will kill you if they catch you selling that shit locally. Wow. Because this poison is meant to export. Wow.
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If the cartels catch you selling anything that isn’t from them or fentanyl in certain areas, they’ll kill you. So that’s the that’s the best. That’s the Mexican D. A. R. E. Program.
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That is so crazy. Like, they know it’s bad.
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Yeah. Yeah. That will the other they know. And you you see some of these cartels publicly claim, like, we’re we don’t deal in this fentanyl thing. This is not us. Fentanyl as a whole, I think, in The US is kinda down. And I ai I know that not all of it or not most of it is now coming from Mexico.
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I mean, you’ll you’ll get pill shipments of fentanyl pills coming from Meh. A lot of vatsal lot of those. But, you also get fentanyl from ram in the mail all over The US. There’s a there’s a loophole that is finally being closed about exporting things into United States. So if they’re, below $800 or something like that, they don’t get the full scan.
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So I know for a fact there are cartels in or groups of people in The United States organizing, shipping things to The United States that have fentanyl in them, and they arya loading and they’re selling fentanyl y loaded substances into into US without any sort of cartel and Mexican involvement.
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That is also happening in The US.
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And the precursors for this stuff all come from China. Correct?
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They all come from Ai. And this is an ai observation, I guess. When COVID hit, these precursors started getting really rare for some of these organizations, specifically, the SignalR cartel was actually getting their fentanyl in The US from some of the last shipments that they were receiving in the ports in The US because The US kept the ports open for a bit longer.
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So you you had cases of people, cartel members getting caught with fentanyl smuggling into Mexico because they didn’t get their regular supply from China from the regular ports. And that’s what they were utilizing to infuse the the drugs that they would send over to The US.
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But the one that didn’t have any of those issues was the new generation cartel because they, own a lot of the ports, on both sides of the country. And, also, they’ve always had, I don’t know, this I don’t wanna say that the People’s Republic Of China purposely has been sending fentanyl or has been turning a blind eye to all this phenomenon as a way to fuck with The US.
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It’s probably the case, though. Yeah. It’s probably the case.
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Well, it seems like that would be a good move if you wanna destabilize ai country. How about you get hundreds of thousands of people hooked on this terrible drug?
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Yeah. And, I mean, they’re all they’re they’re all over the illegal weed trade in in in The US as well right now. Yep. Hundreds of them Ai saloni the border crossing in in in single file.
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I was watching some some video that some guy made about Maine, about there’s this town in Maine, but there’s all these Chinese nationals living there, and they’ve taken over weed operations in Maine.
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It’s it’s wow. It’s it’s, when we talked about Vietnam, I think Mexico is a weird Vietnam in a lot of ways, because you see foreign influences in Mexico in different ways. The current administration is very close with Venezuela and Cuba, which are enemies of The United States. You know, they’re they’re pretty friendly with them.
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02:04:36
So that’s one influence in the country. All of these precursors and supplies and all of these involve Chinese chemist, industrialist individuals. A lot of the cartels were were basically hiding their money through Chinese banking institutions. That’s the way you hide money from The US. You know?
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You put it you take it to a Chinese money broker. He puts it in the Chinese banking institution. You go to Mexico. You have a shell company down there or or a real company down there. And then you ai your investments with that Chinese company.
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Now you have legitimate money just transferring from one end to the other, and nobody nobody the wiser. So Mexico is a war is is a is a war field or a battle a battle is being played out in Mexico that has a lot to do with The United States and affecting the interest of The United States.
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02:05:23
And China is clearly not The US’s friend in this vatsal, probably. And things have changed. The dynamics have changed, but you can clearly see that vatsal some point, they people in China and when it’s I’ve I’ve heard people say that the the largest intelligence opera intelligence organization in the world is this Chinese pop the Chinese government because everybody in China is part of the intelligence apparatus, basically.
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02:05:55
Mhmm. So it’s hard for me to believe that all these industrialists and all of these chemists come to Mexico and show these cartel members how to cook, manufacture, make, or actually fabricate. Like, they’re they’ve been fabricating fentanyl in Mexico. There there there have been a ai meh found in Mexico where they’re actually making meh in Mexico.
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02:06:16
This is very common now. But they learn their tradecraft and scalecraft from people from China. How can the Chinese government have these people moving in and out of the country and showing these things in the back and forth and not ai, oh, we don’t know anything about this.
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Right.
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They’re probably directed to do it.
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I don’t know.
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Look, it makes sense. It makes sense. You know, there’s so many countries that are involved in destabilizing America just like we’re involved in destabilizing other countries. It’s a whack a mole game that’s going on all over the world.
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02:06:45
Trender Ai, which is talked about a lot here in in in The US, these Venezuelan gangs, they’re operating in Vatsal Mexico openly now. There’s power vacuums all over the country where all these cartel guys are getting hit and people are the the the age of the large organizations is probably coming to an end.
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02:07:04
Sinaloa is the Sinaloa cartel doesn’t exist anymore. There’s smaller factions basically in control, which is allowing things to come in. Like, arya the Venezuelan gangs that are operating in a way where the Mexican government hasn’t hasn’t dealt with that. It’s more like a localized gang shit. You know?
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02:07:22
Camorra, ai, Italian mafia type dealings that they have. So they’re they’re which is ai old school Mexican cartels used to do. So now they’re having to de evolve. Would I mentioned this with I I I talked to some people who are actively working against that federally in Mexico.
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02:07:41
And then all of a bryden, we hear these mentions of, Maduro, the president of Venezuela being placed on that, 50,000,000, I think, that they’re offering for his head. And he’s basically now the head of the the ai cartel, which is an interesting narrative that The US is putting out there now. Is that real? I don’t know.
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02:08:01
You you see you see a lot of these Venezuelan, the Ai people, having clear, like, knowledge and skills, you know, and training. And then they’re operating in Mexico clearly with some sort of, command or or directive structure that isn’t ai. Like, no. There’s no, like, who’s the head of the Ai cartel? It’s like, nobody’s nobody’s gonna tell him. They they don’t know. You know? Who’s supplying them?
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Who’s sending them who’s sending them out? Who’s, controlling them? Who’s organizing what? And it’s it’s it’s ai a destabilizing thing element, I I think. You know?
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It it it it’s interesting that he that when we hear this new mention of, well, authorized military actions in South America, they don’t say Mexico specifically. They say just South Meh, and a very big thing that comes up is Venezuela and Mexico. I think this I think whatever The US is attempting is beyond cartel and drugs, and this is about regional stability now and security.
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Mexico’s industrial plant is the most valuable resource on the planet right now, I think, think, moving into the future. It’s poised to be the next China. Mhmm. And The US sees this. And what does The US need more than anything right now? An industrial plant. Right. And where is it gonna get one?
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Mexico. And Maduro, is this the first time where there’s been a gigantic bounty on a president of a South American country
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in our lifetime? Sai Ai think I Sai don’t remember anybody else with it one of those.
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But it’s
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barely making
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the news. But it’s
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it’s wild. He’s It’s wild.
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He’s the president of a country. The president? Frank fifty million dollars for his capture.
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Yeah. And he’s he’s on the TV screaming. He’s has these daily fucking
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pisses. Keep from getting kidnapped?
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I have no idea. They they tried to kill him. They they ai to blow him up with a drone once. They tried to
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Imagine, like, for 50 meh, like some Figure out you figure out ai level guys might snatch him up.
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Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know how that works as far as a bounty on him, but he’s he’s worried. He’s ai militia forces all over the country. There was three years ago, five years ago, a bunch of Americans were apparently hired by these private institution private groups, to go and try and liberate Venezuela, and they all got caught by fishermen on the coast.
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I think Sai got caught by fishermen?
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There was some fishermen on the coast that were like, ai. What are these guys doing here fucking with a 50 cal on top of a pickup truck? And I think they were they were they were they were they were grabbed and they were put on media and, like, oh, these guys were all peep they I think one of them did security for a Trump event, so they put it all on Trump.
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Trump organized this. I don’t know the whole of the details. This is, like, a little bit out of my ai. But what I’ve heard is that a lot of that money actually came from Cuban intelligence people who were just trying to orchestrate an embarrassing moment for The US by paying all these mercenaries who are American to try and liberate Venezuela and just catching them.
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02:11:07
Wow. Ai think that something like that’s happened. There’s a lot of gold coming out of that country. It has a lot of gold. There’s a lot of shady things coming in and out of that country.
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02:11:17
Any country that is outside of the scope of Friends of the United States is a country where shady shit can happen.
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02:11:22
Jamie, what is the official reason why they have a bounty on Maduro?
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02:11:26
Like, what It’s a cocaine smuggling operation
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02:11:29
Yeah.
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Is allowing or responsible for. And Mexico, the president says they don’t have any evidence of that.
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02:11:35
Yeah. See see? And it’s it’s but you don’t have any evidence of that, but there’s a bunch of Venezuelan organizations in Mexico ai that you’re fighting against, you know.
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02:11:46
That are clearly involved in smuggling.
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02:11:48
Yeah. And that that clearly have some sort of free movement between Venezuela and Mexico. Oh. What’s going on? What is going on? But, I I think we’re we’re headed for something. Last time I was here, I said in five years, we’re gonna see some sort of direct military intervention in Mexico, which has already happened, I think, with the rest of the Ai Zambala.
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I kinda called the whole terrorist designation thing. I said I didn’t I think Sai I didn’t think he was gonna do it on his first term, but the second one. And he skipped the he skipped the term, and then we had we had some ai, and then he came back with a force. What do
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02:12:29
you think would happen if he didn’t win? With who didn’t win? If Trump didn’t win, the border stayed wide open.
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02:12:36
Oh, yeah. I’m an immigrant, Joe. And I’ve seen that side of policy in The US and how it’s affected the community and generally the people. But on the other end, I’ve also experienced Biden and the open borders policy sana the amounts of, horrible shit that I saw on that border and people being bunch of kids that went missing or kids that were, like, what’s going on with all these kids?
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02:13:10
And why do they have armbands? And, and all these, migrant ram. Trafficking. Yeah. All these migrant camps being set up on the border and Which generally,
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02:13:20
like, good people don’t wanna believe that human trafficking is a real business. It is the best Child trafficking is a real business.
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02:13:27
It is a real business, and it is a big business. And most of the anything related to sex trafficking, specifically related to children, what part of the world do you think is the largest market for it?
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Is The United States? They’re always catching people too. They catch people and you’re like, how many have they not caught? Yeah. You know, whenever they catch some new guy that’s in trouble.
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02:13:53
The the the the phenomenon the phenomenon that’s going on that I Ai don’t see a lot of people talk about is that the fact that, you know, a lot of Americans who are into this moved to Meh. And in Mexico, it was harder to find some of these people. So a lot of it some in some of these expat community places, there are people hiding out who are pedophiles.
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02:14:09
And they don’t no longer have to figure out stuff in The US, so they’re moving down there and they’re doing some of that down there. Trafficking of children, the sales of children, child theft, kidnappings arya common in Mexico. They’re very common in Mexico. And it’s not something in that you hear a lot about, but masses of people and children being moved up into the border have had some sort of organized effort with them to, like, help that out.
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02:14:44
You know? If you’re a cartel member and you’re on the border and all of a sudden you see 14 kids that are all asleep, you’re like, what the why are all these kids, like, asleep? Oh, they’re tired from the trip. I mean, I I have a kid. You know?
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02:15:01
She’s she’s ai, I stop vatsal Starbucks, and she wakes up ai, where are you getting? Right? Right. All these kids are, like, asleep. They’re drugged.
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02:15:08
So they carry them drugged up into the all all the way up to the border. This is is this is Ai era. The so they would drug all these these these these kids to not make them interact with anybody that ai ask them any questions, basically. They put an arm band on them, and they had some sort of organized effort on The US side to receive them and put them wherever they need to be.
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02:15:36
All that was shady. All that was really shady. I’m not I don’t know.
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02:15:42
That’s so horrific.
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02:15:43
I don’t know what happens on this side. I don’t know what happens on this side. I I know that as an immigrant myself, I know that this administration, specifically in this part of its in in this history and what’s happening right now is, there’s a lot of stress and fear. You know?
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02:16:02
I I, I see the I see the effects of it in in in in different industries, from agricultural to culture to just this general anxiety that is, that is that is felt across the country by people of my color skin that look Mexican or are Mexican, you know. But I also am not blind to or not stupid enough to see and compare it to the past administration and some of the shit that went on there.
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02:16:29
That’s the problem is that it’s an overcorrection. The problem is when you have an open border and you do know that cartel members are just freely going across and you do have human trafficking and you sana stop it, then you wanna get everybody out that came in during the last four years.
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02:16:45
So now you have 20,000,000 people you have to account for. Yeah. And the problem is some of them are good people. Some of them are not gang members. Most of them are just people that wanted a better life. Most of them. But they have mandates now, and mandates get creepy because then people become numbers.
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And if you say we gotta get rid of x amount every day.
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Yeah.
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And
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then you just show up at Home Depot and you get some hardworking guy with a family who just wants to, like, do some roofing jobs. Yeah. You know?
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02:17:14
Dude selling flowers. Yeah. Lady selling, fruit, in cups.
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02:17:19
And then there’s this pushback on amnesty. People have this crazy pushback ai if someone’s been here for twenty years, they were working on a farm and they’re good people and they’ve established a family here. Let’s figure out a pathway to amnesty. And then there’s the hard right push back to, like, fuck you. You got here illegally, get the fuck out.
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02:17:37
It’s ai those are jobs Americans could do. It’s like I mean Well, first of all, my take on that is if you’re using illegal labor at the very at the bottom line, what you’re doing is not paying people what they should be paid.
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Illegal immigration is illegal because people want it to remain Right. Ai because they need that cheap labor. That’s that’s another addiction.
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02:18:02
Someone explained that to meh, that he was having a conversation with this extremely wealthy guy who was upset at the crackdown on the border because they need illegal workers. It’s a part of their business model because you don’t have to pay them any benefits. You don’t have to pay them whatever the They’re
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02:18:21
off the books?
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Yeah. Exactly. And they can’t complain.
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02:18:25
If they do?
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02:18:26
Yeah. Which is that’s not good. Like, you shouldn’t have that. So they should find out, first of all, forget about whether or not someone’s illegal or not. Like, what are you paying them? Yeah. You should have, like, a detailed record of how much everybody who works for you gets paid.
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And if there’s a bunch of people that are working for you that are on record, what’s going on?
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02:18:46
Yeah.
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Like, what why you have this enormous corporation that relies on illegal labor? There are there are
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02:18:52
legal means of coming up to US and and and and migrating or as a worker
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02:18:57
and but it’s It’s hard. That’s the problem if you’re poor. If you’re poor, it’s almost impossible. I have good friends that have immigrated to The United States and they have to prove that their job is something that can’t be done by an American or that they’re exceptional at their job?
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02:19:12
When I went through my immigration process, I had my wife, who I’ve known since I was 16, next to meh, and my daughter. And they didn’t believe that our marriage was real. Jeez. So I did it legally, and I had all of the things that I needed to have to have that immigration go through, and it was the most difficult process that I’ve ever gone through.
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And I can’t imagine other people that have, I don’t know.
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02:19:43
How about they don’t speak English? Right? How about they have no money? And
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02:19:47
But there are quotas for other countries. Like, I remember when I got mine, there was, like, a Nigerian dude that couldn’t speak English. And he got it. And Ai got, like, we need more information. Wow. And that’s another aspect of it. Again, somebody bryden in this country that is an immigrant.
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Ai, it’s the foundation of most cities. Sai ai They’re crazy? I’ll just You sai that meh, A Day Without Mexicans? Yeah. The fucking whole country shuts down, especially LA.
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02:20:15
I mean, the California fires and all the houses that we’ve gotten, like, ai like, people in construction, you go to some of these work sites. Yeah. You could you you Yeah. Exactly. And, it’s it’s it’s been wild seeing that and the effect that it it has had on just general on the on the Mexican side is fear and anger and, like, more anti American feelings, you know.
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02:20:48
And also this new arrival of these Americans because think about this. And I have a friend, that I that I sometimes help out in in in places like Tijuana where we bryden deportees show up in Tijuana, and there’s a lot of them right now. Imagine you live in The US from when you’re two years old all the way your thirties, and then they tell you. Right.
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02:21:16
And then you’re now you’re in a shantytown in Tijuana. Crazy.
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02:21:20
That doesn’t make any sense. That’s immoral.
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Speaking the clearest English, like Yeah. Somehow they pay taxes for all this period. So, like, the Right. I got look. I paid my taxes and, like, some of them have careers. Some of them have families. Yeah. That’s that’s
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is the kind of shit that drives me nuts. That’s that’s insane. Like, they should be grandfathered in. You should figure out a way. Like, if someone came over here when they’re two, stop. Yeah. Stop.
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02:21:45
The the amount of people getting kinda separated and also the the I mean, they’re they’re not we have we have a we have a situation right now where there’s American homeless people in Tijuana asking for money.
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02:22:00
Woah.
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Right? That’s one thing. And we also have people that you think are American, but they’re actually Mexicans who are recently deported, who are living in very dire conditions. And, hey, you want a job? I can’t speak Spanish. Like, dude
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02:22:14
Oh meh god.
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So so it’s ai and this is a phenomenon that’s happening across the border. And on this side I didn’t
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even think about people that can’t speak Spanish.
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02:22:24
Some of them can’t speak Spanish. Oh ai god. Met one I met a dude that again, he I think he was since he was two, he was brought brought across. And he found out that he he found out that he didn’t have any, he found out that he had any paperwork, I think, at 18 when he started to do some sort of process.
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02:22:39
And they’re like, wait. Where’s your birth certificate?
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02:22:42
Oh ai god.
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And he got caught up, I think, somewhere in LA. And, you know, he sai down. The this this, this perception that it’s all criminals is No. No.
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02:22:56
Did well, they’re saying it’s all criminals because if you come here illegally, it’s a crime. Okay. So it was a two year old criminal? Two year old hardened criminal in his diaper?
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02:23:05
Yeah. Come on.
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02:23:07
Ai fucking insane.
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02:23:08
I I think I think you’re you’re you’re spot on when you say this is an over correction.
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02:23:14
Yes.
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I think that is a very true statement.
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02:23:17
It’s also treating people like numbers. Yes. And, you know, and not having the resources to look at each individual case, ai having enough manpower and people, and also everybody loses their compassion. You just deal with it over and over and over again. You’re like enough. Yeah. What’s your story? That’s not really your kid. That’s not really your wife.
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02:23:37
Yep.
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02:23:37
You know? Like people they, you know, they get lied to enough that they lose their humanity.
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02:23:42
Yeah. I understand that aspect of it. It’s horrible. But, you know, this is this is, we’re gonna live with the consequences of this, and our kids are gonna live with the consequences of this probably in the future. And when people look back
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02:23:54
The national karma of it.
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02:23:56
Yeah. When people look back at this, you know, The United States leaving Afghanistan as it did, guaranteed that it’s gonna be very hard for America to find friends internationally now, realistically. However it deals with Mexico in the next few years is going it’s going to define this nation.
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02:24:15
It this is whatever’s happening right now, whatever deals are being done, whatever this administration is pointing at is gonna define us for, I mean, my kids are gonna have to live with the results of this.
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02:24:29
Yeah. What were the there was mass deportations going on during the Obama administration too. Yeah. This is what a lot of people aren’t aware of. They used to call them the deporter in chief.
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02:24:39
Ai and this is one thing that just makes me nuts because whenever I hear people appear, they sana vilify just one sai,
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02:24:49
I guess. Yeah. You can’t do that.
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02:24:51
It’s a trap. Yeah. That’s a trap. Obama when Obama was in, he deported a lot of people.
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I think it was somewhere around 3,000,000 people.
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02:25:00
It was like this at the border.
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02:25:01
How many people did the Obama administration deport over the entire eight years? Ai think it was, like, 3,000,000 people.
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02:25:09
Yeah. So and and I and I
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02:25:11
and why why was he deporting so many people?
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02:25:15
Pressure. They probably had some sort of political pressure. I’m not sure. But I the the thing I I point at is that within my same community, they try and point at people in politics sai, like, no. But he’s part of the Democratic Party. He’s gonna help us, you know, whatever government governor it is in whatever state. Yeah.
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02:25:35
But, no, he was a part of the same party that supported Obama, and Obama was doing all this.
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02:25:41
3,307,000. So what is that total on the left, Jamie?
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02:25:48
Total apprehensions and then the meh number you just read is the border US Mexico border apprehensions.
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02:25:54
So those are just apprehensions or what about deportations?
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02:25:58
And then removal. Total deportations is 5,000,000.
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02:26:02
5,000,000.
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02:26:03
That’s not just Mexico. It’s ai of the point it’s making.
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02:26:05
Right. 5,000,000.
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02:26:07
Bush administration, 10,000,000. Woah. Clint administration, 12.3. Wow.
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02:26:15
How many is, Trump deported? Let’s find that out. Yeah. And the the kind of
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the perception of the villainy, like, in the community, it’s all it’s it’s about pointing to those are the enemy, these are our friends, those are the enemies, these are friends.
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02:26:30
What they’re doing exactly right here, you know, people get so caught up in, you know, it’s, MAGA versus the Democrats. Like, you’re being played. Yeah. You’re getting fucked no matter who’s in office. The whole thing is a scam. And it’s these giant corporations are laughing in your face.
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The whole thing has nothing to do with you. You’re just a little pawn. And they use TikTok too. Yeah. They use there’s so much propaganda being going on online.
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02:27:02
In in my mind, Sai I I always I always think about this first. Like, I’m an I’m an immigrant. I’m new here. I’m trying to figure things out. I’ve seen more of The United States than most Americans. I think I’m missing Hawaii, Iowa, and Alaska. Ai think I’m ai, Iowa, and Alaska, but I’ve been every other place.
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02:27:17
Ai was in a room in Tennessee watching a bunch of dudes dance with poisonous snakes at one point.
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02:27:23
Oh, boy. You went to a snake handler place?
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02:27:27
Beautiful experience. The Mexic Meh go down to Mexico and watch bullfights. And when I was there, I was like, I’m doing exactly the same shit you guys are doing. Shut up. Yeah. I I grew up around snakes. I used to hunt them and sell the skin to the bootmakers and stuff like that.
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02:27:42
So How
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did you get in contact with snake handlers?
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02:27:46
I did a I I I do a lot of training across the country for, police, government institutions ai. And, we we got a I did a meh class out in Tennessee. And somebody there is ai, hey, Ed. You’re going like, we we want to show you around show you around. Ai you wanna go and see a ai distillery? He’s like, no. Like I said, hey.
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02:28:07
Are there any of these types of churches around here where they you know? Sai, yeah, why would you wanna go there? Because it’s exotic to me. Yeah. Ai
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02:28:17
sana go there too.
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02:28:18
Ai what I wanna see. Yeah. I can’t tell you too much about them. They just told me to keep it low key. But, when I went there, they asked me, are you Christian? Ai like, I’m Catholic. So you’re not Christian.
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02:28:28
Catholic is Christian?
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02:28:29
No. According to them, it’s a it’s a saloni, institution. Oh. But I said, okay. Ai then you are you ready to accept their true words? Yeah. I wanna see. Right? Baskets start kinda getting pulled out, and, you know, again, I I grew up around snakes, so I know what a what a basket with a snake might kind of, there’s something in there.
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02:28:56
I thought they were defanged in my mind. Those those things arya definitely real poisonous snakes. I don’t know if they give them something so so they’re, like, chill.
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02:29:05
No. They die all the time, those guys. Yeah. One got whacked recently.
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02:29:09
Yeah. But but, like, they they they were still, like, handling. They’re just fucking just proving their faith with these snakes.
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02:29:16
Well, if you’re handling snakes all the time, they get accustomed to you handling them.
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Yeah. As long as you’re feeding them. I don’t know. I was I was, like, oh, it’s cool, but I I don’t have enough faith, I think.
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02:29:25
I think as long as you keep them fed and they don’t feel like they’re in danger
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02:29:29
Yeah.
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I don’t think they’re gonna fuck you up. It’s like when you encounter them in the wild, it’s like they’re just protecting themselves. They don’t wanna get you.
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02:29:35
Yeah. But there were some pictures around of some of the people that didn’t have enough faith, I guess. Oh, Ai You got whacked?
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02:29:42
Yeah. Did they die ai they just like
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02:29:44
I think I I mean, I think they have pictures there of people that passed.
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02:29:48
Because some people don’t ai. You just get horrible necrosis around the wound. Yeah. Where you need massive skin grafts and you lose, like, half your fucking muscle tissue in your leg.
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02:29:58
Yeah. And
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sai if you can find that article about a guy recently, snake handler, who got killed.
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02:30:03
No. Hopefully. Hopefully.
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02:30:05
Ram thing before I move on. Okay. He did his first term He did half during, during his first four years. He did 1,500,000 deportations. That’s about half of Obama’s first term, which was 2.9. Wow. And same about the same as Biden’s term, which is 1.49 also.
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And what is he at now?
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02:30:25
Ai mean, they’re only six months into the year. Yeah.
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02:30:28
How
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02:30:28
crazy is it that Biden deported 1,549,000 while letting in 20? Like, what do you think they were doing? Was that a part of destabilization? I know there was also efforts to move people to specific states sai that they can get a larger number for the census, so you get more congressional seats.
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02:30:49
This is a dark thing that people don’t wanna admit because they’re ai in the wool Democrat, but listen, it is. They said,
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02:30:56
remember who to vote for, and they just get dropped out.
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02:30:58
I had a conversation with my parents about it. They’re like, no. I’m like, yes. It’s about congressional seats. It’s like the census counts illegals. And not only that, they’re trying to make it so that those people can vote. And if you can make it so that those people could vote, then all of a bryden, you you ship these people to a place, you give them EBD cards, you you get them on food stamps, You give them Medicaid money.
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02:31:21
You give you they have money.
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02:31:23
Yeah. And now, who are
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02:31:25
you gonna vote for? Yeah. You’re gonna vote for the people who got you money. Yep.
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02:31:27
You’re
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02:31:28
gonna people who give you the food stamps. Like, who are you gonna vote for? You’re gonna vote for the people that shipped you to Springfield, Ai. This is a good spot.
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02:31:35
And and why do you think that is? Like, meh. Vote votes, congressional seats is one. Mhmm. Swing states. Swing states. Net population growth?
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02:31:47
I think there’s a little of that too. I think Sai think that’s population collapse.
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02:31:50
There’s a population that I mean, nobody’s there’s no immigrant, crisis in China right now. Right. And I think they’re on their way to probably collapsing if if if they go through this downturn in their population. I think The US is, at some point of its history, I think has been ai close to that, I guess.
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02:32:07
Japan is in the middle of it. South Korea is experiencing it.
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02:32:10
And I ask because I I’m trying to find logic between deporting by the Biden administration doing that and then Mhmm. Opening the door, in that way. For me, it’s always been interesting how a lot of these migrant caravans have a story or a narrative in their head all the way from where they were where they’re coming from up into The US.
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02:32:31
So, like, Shah Ai was here a a while ago, and I think he mentioned that we we we actually went I took him down to TJ to one of these, migrant caravans that was right on the border. And I told, hey, Sean. You sana talk to some of these people? Sure. And he got a kick out of the fact that in the middle of this camp, there was a giant Biden flag flying.
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02:32:51
But that wasn’t the that that wasn’t the funniest thing. I’ll I’ll I’ll sai if I could send you the picture. All the all of the all of the the guys that we were interviewing, this is still COVID mask era. Some of them had, make America great again masks on. I have no idea who gave them those, but somebody with a sense of humor probably did. Ai.
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02:33:13
Me Sai have a picture of me and Sean Ai with some with with some of the people that we interviewed, and they have, let’s make America great again mask on. But they they were told by the the organizers that they had a clear that they had a clear, path to The US. And then all they needed to do was make a make a make a lot of noise on the bryden, you know, make a lot of newsworthy events on the border, talk to all the press they could, and somebody there was keep keeping tabs, and then they could go.
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02:33:44
Wow. That that was their the the mindset that a lot of them had, which is a weird one. You know? And then the some of them would talk to us about the fact that they would get aid from The U like, from Americans would come down and give them their camps, their tents. USAID. Yeah. And, there was a lot of dollars being handed out to pay for things. So it was all it was shady. Right?
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02:34:09
Now, like, I actually talked to three three, I think they were Honduran. They just got they just got to the border. Now their, I their their idea is to go to Europe. They have this weird sense that somebody told them somewhere down there that Europe is taking immigrants. So they’re they’re they’re trying to make their way to Mexico. So from Mexico, they wanna go to Europe.
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02:34:35
They’re not looking to The US anymore, which is a weird change in their narrative,
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02:34:40
I guess. You see the mass immigration in Europe is bananas. Yeah. Yeah. It’s really crazy. Yeah. And, again, I But what is it about? Like, why? Why would someone organize this? Why would someone fund this?
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02:34:59
Ai I don’t know. Destabilization, political means, Maybe they want the The US wants to avoid population ai sai that this is one way they can backdoor it.
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02:35:10
There’s probably many factors. Right? The political the the destabilization is one, but just politically to get more congressional seats because of the way they use the census, which I think Trump is trying to change. Is he changing that? They said they weren’t gonna count illegals in the census anymore.
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02:35:26
There’s I I haven’t heard of that.
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02:35:28
Is that I mean, what kind of laws are involved? Could you do that with an executive order? Ai, I don’t know Yeah.
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02:35:35
How you would do that. I don’t know.
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02:35:37
But so you have that and then you have the true need for labor that people don’t Which
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02:35:44
yeah, which is I mean, again, I’ve I’ve been all over the country. And every time I go into a hotel in the Oklahoma, Buenos Dias. Buenos Dias. Ai I I was I was to the Buenos Dias. Yeah. And I hope 80% of the ai, like, Buenos Dias? Like, what part of Mexico are you from? Like, we have this cool conversation, kitchens, ai, I’ve,
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02:36:05
throughout New York City. Anthony Bourdain told me about that. He said all his best cooks were Mexican. Ram Puebla. Wow.
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02:36:13
Sai, I was in Vegas in, this sushi restaurant, high level sushi restaurant.
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02:36:18
Trump calls for new US census that excludes undocumented immigrants. Census has historically counted all residents regardless of citizen status as required by the fourteenth amendment. So you can’t really do that.
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02:36:29
Yeah. The con congress has the power for the census, not the president. So he’s changing something.
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02:36:35
So congress would have to agree with him on something like that, which I think politically there might be motivation to do that because you could game the system bryden administration allowing not just mass immigration, but then the moving of all these immigrants to all these areas where you wanted to take over.
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02:36:55
Yeah.
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02:36:55
Which is crazy. Ai, using these people as political ploys and then they get a fresh start in Meh, so it’s kinda like a win win.
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02:37:02
Yeah. You
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02:37:02
know, they’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the cats.
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02:37:07
Yeah. You you when whenever I when I when I whenever I travel, I always look at people in the service industry. Like, I try to see where they’re ram, and it’s always it’s always Mexican. You know? A lot a lot of them are Mexican. In different parts of the country, it’s different, but mostly Meh. Minnesota, there’s a lot of, not Mexicans there. Ethiopian?
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02:37:30
Yeah. A lot of Simoleons.
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Simoleons. I mean, I think there was one that was running for mayor there who was, recently that was Yeah. Was online. Young fella. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty radical. He looked he looked exactly like somebody that appeared in a movie Yeah. Where he was a captain for a moment. Yeah. Exactly. It was pretty ai. Exactly.
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02:37:49
But independently of that, the the amount of, like, cultures I’m experiencing across the country is ai, wow. This is just like the UN of countries.
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02:37:58
You ai,
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02:37:58
like, everywhere I go, I meet people from all over the world.
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02:38:02
Well, that’s the part of the beauty of Meh, really. The beauty of America is that it’s a melting pot. That’s supposed to be what’s cool about it. But when it’s sort of weaponized in this way, when people are using it for their political gain and bringing people in for political gain and then making a person like you go through crazy hoops and ladders and all this shit to try to get in here legally.
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02:38:28
You’re like, oh, you’re discouraging legal immigration in favor of illegal immigration, which is really easy.
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02:38:34
Yeah. And and and I understand the part of the the part of the American populace that are just ai, we wanna keep America America. Guess what? I wanna keep America America. Ai that’s why I came up here. Yeah. Going to Kentucky and experiencing that Meh.
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02:38:50
Yeah. Cool. Listen, there’s no more American people than Cuban Americans. Those motherfuckers are hardcore America. Hardcore America. Yeah. You know why? Because they know what the
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02:38:59
fuck Yeah.
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02:39:00
Communism looks like. This isn’t just ai some theoretical shit they teach you in college. Like their grandparents and their great ram grew up oppressed. Ai, they had to deal with that stuff. They escaped and they came over to America and they have no tolerance for any bullshit.
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02:39:16
Well well well, in Mexico right now, there are things you can’t sai, you know. There’s laws that prohibit you from being violent verbally against a political figure if she’s a female, and you’ll have to go on TV and, like, read out, like, a whole thing, ai for your insults.
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02:39:35
Public humiliation basically is being legalized in Meh, and Mexico was going towards that side of things.
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02:39:42
Oh, yeah.
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02:39:43
And but I’m up here, and I’m seeing some of the things up here as well. You know? So, like, I don’t I have this I have this vision of The US where it’s ai, cool. This is a place where I’m safe to pursue whatever happiness I think exist. I don’t I didn’t find that happiness in my country where I’m ram, where where where I came from because this or this or this or that.
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02:40:08
Why do I wanna bring some of that here? I guess, would be one of the ways Ai think about it. Sai, I don’t I don’t want I don’t want, hey. This Texas is kinda boring. Let’s bring in fucking militarized cartel members sai they roll around the city and pick up kids and shit like that and ram
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02:40:23
them in the camps. Well, that’s the big fear about Texas having Californians come here.
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02:40:27
Don’t
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02:40:28
California art Texas. Yeah. You know, because they’re like, man, California is just bullshit. We gotta get out of here. This place, the laws are dumb. Just like, what made this place this place? Those fucking laws, dumbass. Yeah. Ai, constitutional carry. Cool. Cool. That’s sai cool thing. Keeps everybody super polite.
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02:40:45
Yeah. Everybody super polite and also, like, hey, you know, call the cops after, you know, whatever mentality that is. In Mexico, airsoft guns are, like, on weird list. Like, you can’t buy a a a ai for a gun. If you wanna buy a gun, you have to fly to Mexico City, which basically makes it prohibited to anybody that doesn’t have any real means or money to get get get guns or training.
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02:41:11
So it’s basically you you’re not you don’t get the privilege to defend yourself in a country where you can’t trust the cops. 90% of all murders are never solved. And look at all these fucking roving gangs rolling around with fucking capabilities of taking down helicopters. They’re cool, but you can’t have a 22 caliber pistol. That’s the ai.
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02:41:31
When I came up here, I’m like, oh, cool. This is, like, this is a place where the some of that is not the case. But then a bunch of gun laws passed in California while I was going through my process, and people started showing up to the gun range that I would go to train with, like, weird California compliant guns that you have to, like, weld the magazine to a certain place and stuff like that.
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02:41:52
And I was like, oh, meh. It’s changing up here too. Just California. Yeah. Sai just California.
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02:41:57
Just California. California is rough.
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02:41:59
They they
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02:41:59
the some of the things they did, like, they made pistol companies make magazines with lower capacity. Yeah. As if you can’t kill people with a 10 round magazine, like, what what sai how many lives does that save? Zero?
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02:42:12
Some of those laws are retarded,
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02:42:13
but like Ai. But that’s it. It’s just the illusion that they’re doing something to combat drug violence or gang violence or gun violence or it’s all illusions. Yeah. It’s all ai optics.
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02:42:23
But it it is it is it’s I mean, it’s it’s when I when I when I get asked about my American experience, you know, I’ve been profiled. I’ve been I’ve some racist shit has been sent to me, you know.
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02:42:36
Where are you living these days?
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02:42:38
Texas. Houston. Beautiful Houston.
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02:42:40
It’s
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02:42:40
the right amount of ghetto.
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02:42:42
I love Houston. I love it.
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02:42:44
It’s a little bit it’s a little bit of Mexican there.
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02:42:47
Yeah. This Houston is a big ass melting pot. It’s one of the best cities.
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02:42:51
Yeah. It really is. I I, when I when I got there and again, I’ve lived in Kentucky for a bit in California and then there. I’ve I’ve experienced great profiling and racism in California, which is pretty funny to say, but that’s where I experienced the most of it. I’ve experienced people opening their houses to me and, like, just being the best people on the planet.
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02:43:16
I experienced that in Texas and and, Kentucky with some people who are just, like, cool as fuck. I’ve experienced the best and the worst this country has to offer, I think. And I can see in it, like, I get it. I get what America is. Like, I dude, Ai I finished high school, and then I went to work for a paramilitary institution somewhere in New Mexico.
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02:43:36
And then I came up here, and I have seven employees now, a company. I’ve spoken to members of congress. I’ve, trained federal forces and people that I’ve read about in books, on how to do things that I learned in this horrible country warfare that I had to go through. There’s no other place on the planet that were ai me these opportunities for myself and for my for my daughter. There’s no other place in the world.
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02:44:00
So, like, I definitely have fucking skin in the game when it comes to this country. It is disheartening that with the way things are now, like, we’re it. Like, bryden Mexican immigrants of any kind, legal or illegal, are it. Right. We are Yeah. It right now.
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02:44:21
In the sai of Ai.
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02:44:23
In the sights of any sort of authority figure that might wanna, like, sai, like, wait, wait, what are you doing? Who are you? So that’s it’s it’s it’s sai it’s an anxiety. And, again, it’s I I’ve talking to people from my community across the country, it’s it’s it’s a generalized anxiety of not feeling at home at home, which is Dark.
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02:44:45
Dark. It’s dark. Yeah.
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02:44:46
It’s dark. Yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s the problem with these fucking braids. It also makes the rest of us feel awful. Like, people that aren’t scared of it, you feel awful about, like, what America stands for. Like, the idea that we would find it right to send some kid who is born here or born in Meh, but came over here when he was two, can’t speak Spanish at all.
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02:45:11
Some kid in LA that just doesn’t have paperwork, and all of a sudden he’s in Mexico. Yeah. Like, that is fucking dark. That’s crazy. And that makes everybody else feel like, oh, this isn’t a good country then. That’s not a good thing to do. That’s a bad thing.
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02:45:25
That’s an immoral thing to do. That’s That’s a thing that you do when you don’t care, and this is supposed to be the shining light of the world.
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02:45:33
Yeah. And ai you, I talk to everybody. Like, I’m I’m I’m I’m an open conversation, open book with anybody. I don’t see anybody as an enemy. I don’t see anybody as an opponent. Dude, I’ve been through shit. I’ve been through hell and back. I’ve, so I’ve encountered situations where I’ve had to talk to immigration officials and, you know, ai I’d sai, like, hey, dude. What’s it like?
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02:45:54
Like, what’s what’s ai being the villain right now? Like, the the amount of a lot of these guys are getting doxxed. Mhmm. They’re utilizing AI technology to take a picture of them and removing the mask, and it gives you a guesstimation of what their faces are like. There’s there’s people that arya documenting their tattoos and then doxxing them online. And I’m ai, what they are like, why do you ask that, Ed?
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02:46:16
Because we were vilified too. And that’s how they, you know, that’s how they got to us. You know, they started making us into the enemy. There is there is a lot of interest out there I can see at high levels to separate us and keep us ai, like, at a cultural level, I think.
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02:46:35
More destabilization. So you think this is part of the plan?
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02:46:39
I I don’t know if there’s a plan or not.
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02:46:41
But hopefully It kinda makes sense. Like, the part of the the whole agenda is to create even more conflict.
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02:46:49
Hopefully, somebody has a plan. Like, I hopefully, somebody knows what the
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02:46:54
they’re doing somewhere. But maybe not.
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02:46:56
Right? If they don’t, man, ai vatsal dark thing to think about.
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02:47:00
That’s what makes me wonder. I wonder Ai wonder if it really is a big plan or if it really is just fucking human chaos.
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02:47:07
If I find myself in a room with Illuminati people and there’s ai a then then I’m like, oh, these guys are smart. Like, you know, whatever whatever this is, if we’re gonna be cattle, at least somebody that knows their shit is gonna be in charge. But I don’t I don’t know. Like, Ai don’t know. I see this I I see I see The US in ai, people internationally see The US declining. You know?
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02:47:29
I got to experience The US in the eighties, crossing the border and going to San Diego and going to SeaWorld with my parents and shopping and seeing the portions of everything bigger in the supermarkets. And then as an immigrant in The US now, I got everything smaller, and, infrastructure is very dilapidated in certain parts of of the country, and it’s not The US of of the eighties.
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02:47:51
It’s not The US of the nineties. It’s different. So, yeah, I can see why people are screaming at the fact that, yeah, there’s something has to be done. We’re losing it as a country. But I think you you hit it on the on the nail on the head.
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02:48:06
We went through, Biden administration that was all about who was in charge is the question I have. Like, I don’t is was that dude in charge? No. Somebody was.
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02:48:19
Yeah. Not only shah, I think there was more than one of that dude. You know? There’s, like, fake Bidens.
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02:48:25
Yes. And his son going online and doing an interview and he’s giving us giving us, like, a intimate view of his family conversations and Sana
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02:48:35
sounds fun. He’s a
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02:48:37
part dude, I have a party with that ai. No. Not not
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02:48:39
Not anymore.
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02:48:40
Back then, maybe. Yeah.
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02:48:41
Ai don’t think he even parties anymore.
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02:48:44
But, it’s wild to think those and then people question why things are the way they are and why people are struggling in different parts of this in different parts parts of society in this country. Ai came here to work and to make a better life for myself and for my kid. And I somehow managed to be in a place where I have, like, employees, and I have a company, and I’m working. I’m doing work.
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02:49:07
And I
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02:49:08
get It’s the American dream.
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02:49:10
It is the American dream and it’s it it still exists. And I’m proof of it still being real, but it is under attack from all ai. Mhmm. From all sides. Yeah. From all sides. I’ll do I’ll say that three times. Yeah. People need to realize that it’s not just Right.
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02:49:29
It’s every there there’s there’s there’s definitely an interest to keep us all fighting.
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02:49:36
Yeah. And social media is a big part of that.
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02:49:40
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
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02:49:42
mean, that’s literally how most people are getting their information and getting their narratives.
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02:49:46
And the same fight that he that this played on social media ai, sai, is kinda like the same fight that is being sold to us as far as Mexico versus The United States. We’re not enemies. We’re not we shouldn’t be enemies. We should be the best of friends. There are thousands of Americans living in in Mexico now.
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02:50:07
There there’s protests going on for gentrification in Mexico City from people being locals being pushed off. Yeah. They go home, ringos, ring down the walls. Meanwhile, there’s ice raids in LA, and people being rolled up and being deported. And that’s happening all the while where people are trying ai, Mexicans are, like, sick of all these Americans living in all these cool parts of, Mexico and gentrifying them, which is wild.
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02:50:31
I mean, are we into mass American deportations next ram Mexico? Is that gonna happen? In the past, you can just cross the border as an American and they wouldn’t ask you for shit. Now they ask you for ID.
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02:50:46
Oh, really? Yes.
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02:50:47
A lot of Americans that live in places like Tijuana and then work in San Diego have encountered this, oh, things are changing. Like, what where’s your ID? They look Mexican. Yeah. Well, where’s your federal voter ID? It’s like, you’re you’re an American. Right? And you just work in San Diego. Yeah. You go back.
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02:51:08
And they Really? Yeah. They send them back. Do you have to pay for, like, a, like, a visa extension thing sai you can cross the border regularly, or you can be in Mexico for long periods. But things are changing. Again, these these lines are being drawn on the ground, and I I don’t think are good for anybody. Free commerce be at that bryden.
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02:51:28
San Diego and Tijuana are one and the same From blood, family, commerce Yeah. They’re one in the same. Why draw a line there?
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02:51:38
Yeah. When I used to work in San Diego and I used to stand up down there and, you know, if I hung out after the shows, I’d meet a bunch of people that came to the show from Mexico. Yeah.
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02:51:47
Yeah. And I’d say, wow.
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02:51:49
Did you you just came over here for the show?
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02:51:51
Yeah. Drive drive across. Yeah. Drive across. And there there’s again, we we’re get as both of our Mexico is poised to be a powerhouse economically if we don’t fuck it off with socialism.
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02:52:05
Meh. And why is that being pushed too? More destabilization.
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02:52:11
But it is poised to be a powerhouse. You know? We have we have the youth. We have everything we need to just fucking explode. Resources, everything. But there but that’s the same reason why we’re being targeted so much for destabilization there. Wow. There’s no path forward, I think, to have a isolated United States with giant walls and guards on the walls and nobody crossing that wall, and Mexico next to it.
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02:52:42
I don’t think that I don’t I don’t wanna I don’t think that’s I don’t I wouldn’t wanna go there.
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02:52:45
No. There’s always been this free flow back and forth. They just gotta make it so that cartel members can’t just come across, or or terrorists from other countries don’t have an an easy pathway.
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02:52:58
The flow of armaments going down to Mexico Oh, yeah. Is one issue. The flow of drugs coming up from Mexico is another issue. The organized crime elements in Mexico doing horrific things to the local populace and to each other when they fight each other is a issue. But also The United States historical foreign policy to Mexico and its responsibility for a lot of these things happening in Mexico is also key.
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02:53:28
What should The United States do about its responsibility in the past? And some of its foreign policies in Mexico that have led Mexico to be where it is right now as far as ai? I don’t know. I I don’t I don’t think a full on military attack like, Afghanistan or Iraq would be the answer because we see where that goes.
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02:53:48
It’s not as easy as sending just drones down there and exploding a few dudes because we’ve also seen what that happens when you cut the head of one speak. You know, you you just abducted the head of the Sinaloa cartel and brought him to Texas. And all and all that did, it didn’t quell cartel violence in Meh.
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02:54:06
It didn’t end the Sinaloa cartel. It just made a GI war in in in the state of Sinaloa, and it divided up one cartel into two and probably made one of the biggest threats to The United States vatsal security, as far as cartels go, bigger and more influential. That’s what that did. Wow. And as again, the path forward, I don’t know, man. I I this vatsal ai, both countries are linked through blood, genetics, culture. You know.
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02:54:36
There’s a dude online saying that Mexican food is better in The US than Mexico is nuts. Nonsense. He’s just idiot. That’s not nonsense. Stupid dude.
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02:54:45
And you you you will know who I’m talking about. But, you you the both countries are like, again, I’ve I’ve been across this country. I traveled across it, and it is a great country. I Ai love it. I love it. I love it. I love Mexico as well.
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02:54:59
It’s it’s my home country, and I travel when I can there as well. I don’t see a future without both of our countries just, like, figuring things out together. There’s no I don’t I don’t see a future like that.
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02:55:11
Well said.
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02:55:12
Well said. We are gonna need each other more than we think when in the coming years. And open warfare between both countries is not
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02:55:22
Fucking insane.
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02:55:23
It’s not gonna be it’s not gonna lead to anything. You The United States doesn’t have the manpower to stop the wave of migration that will come out of that country if you start fucking lobbying, targeted strikes in certain parts of that country. There’s no way. So if you sana talk about it ai I’d like meh migration is your issue, that’s you’re you’re going the wrong way.
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02:55:43
And also, what at what point do some of these criminal organizations, as I sai, become freedom ai?
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02:55:52
Right.
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02:55:53
And once they become freedom fighters, at what point do they start targeting Americans living down there? Right. And it’s just sai
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02:56:03
Not good. I wonder if they’ve thought it out. Ai, the US government’s thought it out the way you’re laying it out.
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02:56:10
I’ve I’ve I’ve spoken to members of Congress, and I’ve spoken to meh. Ai been in Washington a few times, and I’ve spoken to people that are in charge of things. And they have notions, some of them, you know, but some of them are clearly, you know, they they took that
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02:56:31
They don’t get that world. And if they’re not, like, fully invested in finding out and really diving deep and getting an understanding of it. How how could they know what you know?
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02:56:41
There’s well, they’re doing the right thing by look. I’ve I’ve been I’ve been in rooms with people who were part of this conflict, and and they they’re they’re asking the right people. But they’re some of them are ai, like, oh, we were just in Meh, and we spoke to the local officials there.
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02:56:59
And they told us that they’re doing this now. And look at all those drugs that they just got. They’re doing their job now. And I’m like, dude, I used to work for them. And I could tell you that those boxes beneath those pills are probably empty, and they’re just there to, like, produce a visual weight Yeah. Of it.
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02:57:15
And also, like, that unit that that did that, that seizure, yeah, they’re on a payroll for this organization. And and also the governor of this place where this seizure happened, yeah, you just took her visa away because the husband is involved in fuel smuggling. So, like, is this a win? Wow. But, yes.
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02:57:43
Glad you’re freaking me out.
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02:57:44
I’m sorry. But, yeah, yeah,
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02:57:45
it’s alright. There are people that
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02:57:46
are trying to figure it out Yeah. In the government. There are people that are asking the right questions. I just I don’t know what they’re doing. I don’t know what what what’s gonna happen with, with the information, but a few things are clear. Everything is on the table as far as military options in Mexico and beyond in in South America right now.
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02:58:07
There is an interest by The United States in some of that going on. That’s clear. And what that’s gonna look ai? Is it already happening with the abduction and subsequent arrest of Ai Sana, on a plane in some pretty kinda weird circumstances? Do The United States is The United States already doing political op, political counter operations against the regime that is ruling over Mexico in some way, shape, or form?
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02:58:39
I don’t know. There there there’s a bunch of, political, exposes going on over Mexico right now with a bunch of, like, documents and members of their very austere political party having lavish lifestyles, outside of the country, and they get photographed, and then that goes on the news.
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02:58:55
And then the the president of Mexico says the CIA probably is taking all those pictures as a counteroperation to what they’re doing. Oh, boy. So I I think I think whatever’s happening is it’s it’s it’s already in motion. Ai get my point is the cost of this is if it’s if it isn’t done in a in a if it isn’t done if it if it isn’t done correctly, if it isn’t done in a way where it’s not taking into consideration the outcome or the fallout of something ai abducting another giant head of a cartel down there or taking him out.
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02:59:31
And I think the biggest target out there is, the head of this the new generation cartel. I think that’s if I if I could be a psychic right now, and I sai The US is gonna plan some sort of direct action operation, I think that’s gonna be aimed at them. But, you know, if if the Americans have a vision that they’re gonna go somewhere and everybody’s gonna be wearing cartel member vest on, I don’t think they’re ready to go to somewhere and they have a bunch of police officers with with full uniforms or actually police officer there or members of the military that engage in in a firefight with them and call backup from the military.
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03:00:13
And then now you’re involved in a in a fight with the with the army down there. Because
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03:00:19
they’re all involved with the cartel.
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03:00:22
Some of them are. Again, we hear these stories of these people who was draining them, who’s supplying them, who’s who’s showing them how to use those rocket launchers that they’re getting from ram Ukraine. You hear these stories and you’re ai, just like that dude standing up there, the CIA was involved in drug dealers.
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03:00:39
Like, Ed, you’re fucking you’re just talking out of your ass, this conspiracy theory shit. Five years ago, I said terrorist designation and direct action in Mexico of of a high ai a high level cartel head. And here we are. Yeah. And maybe Ai meh be on that side of conspiracies, but I’ve been pretty spot on.
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03:00:57
You’ve been pretty spot on. Ed, I appreciate you very much. I’m glad we did this. I’ve been following your work over the last five years, and you you’re always on it. So it’s great to hear you lay all this stuff out. Tell everybody how they could find you online.
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03:01:12
Last time I was here, they, deleted my Instagram account of over 500,000 followers.
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03:01:17
After the podcast?
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03:01:18
I posted something about Chinese people being welded into their homes during COVID, and they Instagram didn’t like that. And they they they took down my account. Wow.
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03:01:31
Sai what is it now?
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03:01:32
It is manifesto radio podcast at, it’s at manifesto radio podcast on Instagram and on YouTube. If you wanna check me out, I have a small podcast Ai talk to just people related to this, ai. And I post pictures daily, and a bunch of weird memes and stuff like that. Alright. It’s basically an open blog of my travels.
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03:01:56
I’m I’m constantly traveling, talking to people that are involved in this and, just putting the word out there. I’m not sai I’m not in politics. I am not a reporter. I’m not a cartel reporter. I am a dude that went through some shit. I’m still going through some shit.
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03:02:11
I’m trying to figure things out as a new American, and I want the best for both countries. That’s who
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I am. Beautiful. Thank you, Ai. Appreciate you, brother.
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03:02:20
Thank you.
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03:02:21
Alright. Bye, everybody ai.