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Brandon Epstein is a mental performance coach, speaker, and author of several books, the most recent of which is “The Success Code: “Programmed to Fail: How to Break Through Your Mental Block and Achieve Greatness.”
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Train ai day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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So the ai on who fall into the camp who had their YouTube channel deleted and were talking about, like, wellness, like, doctors talking about COVID stuff.
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There was a bunch of doctors that had their their YouTube accounts deleted. Really? Yeah. It was a weird time, you know. It was a it’s a weird time. The, the world of medicine is interesting because you’ve got so many positives. Right? Like, people are healthier, they live longer today than they ever have been before.
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If you get certain diseases, they have cures for it that didn’t exist before. But there’s financial incentives involved in prescribing medications that maybe people don’t fucking need because they can make more money if more people take these drugs. And that’s the problem, like, there’s we gotta separate the baby from the bathwater and know what to throw out. Right? And it’s you you can’t throw out meh.
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Like, that’s crazy. It’s amazing. Like, what these pharmaceutical drug companies in coordination with all these brilliant scientists have created is the greatest medicine system the human race has ever known, at least probably. As long as maybe the Mayans knew shit. Like, you know what I mean?
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Ai, there was
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some magic back then.
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Yeah. Maybe some, like, civilizations that collapsed because the Europeans gave them all fucking smallpox ai. Who knows what the Egyptians do? You know, who knows what those people knew about health and about meh? But what we know today is that there’s incredible stuff that comes out of the pharmaceutical drug companies. But also, they fucking ai to you.
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They also they’ll publish fake studies or not fake studies. But they’ll they’ll publish studies that they’ve engineered to be successful even though they’re not going to be. They’ll hide data that shows that it causes side effects. They wanna make money. And it’s not the people that are making the medicine. That’s what’s crazy.
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Like, the people that are making the medicine are fucking geniuses. It’s the money people. It’s always the money people Of course. In everything. And that’s the same thing with YouTube, and that’s the same thing with everything. It’s the money people.
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And there’s there’s oh, when you have a giant corporation, you have, like, all kinds of stuff going on. But the number one thing that’s going on is everybody has to make more money every quarter. Mhmm. And that’s where it gets nutty.
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Yeah. It does. And we also live in a culture that wants that, like, fast food experience. Right?
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Oh, yeah.
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No. And so it’s we’re so susceptible to it. Yeah. Right? For everything, for weight loss, to any issue you have.
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We’re experiencing it a little bit in the comedy community. Because, and this is by the way, this is like a normal thing that happens to young comedians. They wanna be further than they are. Maybe they think they deserve more than they’re getting. They do think they deserve more shows, better spots on shows and it it does happen. And then there’s also, you know, ai, there’s a competitive drive involved in it.
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So there’s a little bit of delusion, a little bit of a competitive drive. It’s very similar, I would imagine, to fighters.
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Mhmm. First of
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all, we just tell everybody, success code, you’re a mind coach.
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Yes, sir.
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You, worked famously with Sean Brady
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Yes.
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Who I love.
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Yeah. He’s ai here and talked about it a little bit.
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He’s a fucking animal. Yeah. I got that guy. He’s fun.
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He’s fun. And he’s got, like, extra muscles on his back. I don’t know what the fuck that guy does, but
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he looks like a turtle. He’s Ai
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don’t know
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what the fuck that guy does, but he looks like a turtle.
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Tattoos coming to life.
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We were all talking about it the other day. We’re like, he looks like a turtle. Like, he’s got, like, a shell on his back. It’s just Crazy. Just jacked muscle. Like, I know what that is. Like, when I see a guy like that, I’m like, that guy will squeeze your fucking face into jello.
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Like, ai
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He’s scary.
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He’s so strong. And what he did to Leon Edwards was ai, holy shit, man. That’s a world champion. And though to do it that decisively on a world champion, like, he’s completely turned a corner. He was always awesome, but he post the Bilal fight, completely turned a corner. And a lot of that success, he, he attributes to you.
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Yeah. It’s interesting. He talks about this openly, but after the Bilal fight, that’s when we started working together. And it was because I think this happens to a lot of fighters, a lot of high achievers is he built this identity of being unbeatable. Right? So all this belief that was wired around who he was was I am unbeatable. And so when he lost, everything shattered. And so he was broken.
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He didn’t know how to pick up the pieces after that. Ai was like, how is this possible? I believe I’m unbeatable, but then I lost. And so we literally had to go into his nervous system, and it’s almost ai clearing out, almost like we’re doing surgery vatsal energetic level of clearing out all the bullshit around these new beliefs shah are starting to form, like, in the confusion of, like, I am beatable.
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When am I gonna lose my next fight? And we had to clear all that and bring him back into that state of being of I’m unbeatable again.
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And how did you learn how to do all this? Like, what’s your background?
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Yeah. So I was a college football player. And, my freshman year in college, I rode the bench, and I was looking for solutions. I was a typical meathead. The most important things for me was getting jacked and playing football. Like, I was literally at a supplement shop looking for pro hormones.
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This is me 18 years old, just ai hypertensive, big neck.
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Right. And And by the way, they used to sell some shit. What it People don’t know. Basically, steroids at local supplement shah. There was this stuff that I took once, the strongest shah I ever took in my life. I think it was called Meh ten.
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Mhmm. Do you
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remember that? I remember that one.
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Ai, but I was
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It was bananas. It was full on steroids. And after I got off, my dick was, like, what are we doing?
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Ai. We
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don’t have any more testosterone left.
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That was amazing.
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It took him for, like, eight weeks. It was crazy. They gained, like, 15 pounds. And I couldn’t believe you just buy it from a store. I’m, like, this can’t be that good if you’re just buying when someone told me about it. I was, like, really? And they’re, like, ai, you have to try this.
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There it is. Is that it?
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I don’t know. It’s the 2,000
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Adabolic dominance. Damn. I don’t know if that’s the stuff, but you definitely can’t get that anymore, can you?
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They they just keep banning it.
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What’s in there?
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I’ll look. But here’s
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the other thing about what’s in there. Says who? Yeah. Right. Says who? Who’s checking it? We had a problem with, my company with Onnit. When we first started, we were we would send stuff out to third party labs to get it analyzed. Right? Mhmm. And we’re finding all sorts of things in it that aren’t supposed to be in there.
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Like different vitamins, creatine, all kinds of shit that’s just not supposed to be in there. Ai, why is this stuff in this? This doesn’t make any sense. And this is what you hear about with tainted supplements with fighters all the time. So what happens is we found out that some of these companies that mix your products for you.
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Sai, if you have, like, some b three k two supplement, you put them all together. They’re mixing them in the same bin where they’re making steroids. They’re mixing them in the same bin where they’re making creatine. Like, they don’t give a fuck if you’re Especially
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on the residue just like If
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you’re shipping that shit overseas, they’re just they don’t give a fuck. Okay? They probably don’t even want to be working there. They’re probably ai held it there against their will. Yeah. Like, who knows what how where this factory is? And so we had to upgrade our factories.
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We had to we had to figure out where the the most ethical sources are and make sure and then we had a third party test again and make sure we’re on the level. But that’s a real problem. So if you’re buying something like that, they can tell you whatever’s is in there. They’ll fucking throw Viagra and Deeball and who knows what’s in there. Who like, just because it says what it is on the label.
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There was there’s that’s the wild thing about supplements. Right? There’s no FDA process. Whack a mole.
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Right? They figure out they’re, like, someone reports it and then they get rid of it and then whack a mole, the next one pops up. They’re like, it’s pretty much the same thing with different branding.
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Yeah. In some ways, it’s good. Right? Because you can get all these vitamins when I have to get a prescription. Because we all know the efficacy of ai. It’s legit. But in other ways, it’s ai, I read something about Amazon, and this is crazy if it’s true, is that I think it was, like, 30% of the supplements on Amazon were forgeries.
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Yeah. I think I’ve seen people putting fake labels and stuff and making it look just like it.
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Yeah. I’ll look into that. See what to see find out what the number is. And ai the way, you know, I don’t know how they even determine that number. But it’s not zero. And so I stopped buying supplements from him. I buy fucking everything from Amazon, and Ai stopped buying supplements from them.
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I would get, like, pure encapsulation stuff. Ai was like, I don’t know. I don’t know if I’m getting it from the company. So I just buy it from the company now. So where where do
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you buy
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it to know it’s, like, pure? Is that good good?
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Well, that company, Pure Encapsulations, is really good. I have no affiliations with them, but I I use their stuff all the time.
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I think a lot of people have that question, though. Like, for meh, it’s like, you just see 100 brands on Ai. You’re like, well, which one’s actually shit? Because you know some of them are trash.
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But you just gotta find a company that has, like, a great history of a bunch of people that have tested their stuff and that use their stuff. And Pure seems to be one of those companies. I mean, there’s a I’m just using that name because I use it. Mhmm. But there’s a ton of, like, super legit supplement companies where, you know, if you’re gonna get ten thousand milligrams of d three. That’s exactly what it is. Yeah.
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You’re they’re just above board. They know what the fuck they’re doing. Ai, everything else, man. Like, you can get the shittiest car in the world or you can get a fucking Mercedes, you know. They know what they’re doing.
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But, you know, people will listen to podcast like this. We’re just kinda, like, listening to influencers in a way. It’s like, oh, Huberman. Well, I trust you. So you have supplements you represent? Alright.
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Well, Huberman is honest, and that’s the most important thing.
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That’s what we do now. Right? We’re looking Yeah. To these it could be doctors, but these people who we put our trust in. It’s ai, that’s kinda like the bar that we’re setting for, like, alright. I’m gonna trust you.
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Honestly, like, that is everything. Yeah. Right? And including for yourself, like when everything falls apart, like what happened with Shah after the loss to Bilal. Like that the thing in your head, like, what it is is what it is, man. You know, like Meh Holloway sai, it is what it is.
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He always says that. It’s a beautiful way to look at life, really. It sounds simple, but it is what it is. Like, you’re not gonna change it by freaking out about it. You’re not gonna you’re you’re not going to. This is what it is. That guy was better than you.
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So how do you go what are you gonna do? How are you gonna improve? What what did you do mentally that was different? Was there decisions that you made during the fight? Was there something going on? And if you can’t be honest with yourself, you’re not going to improve.
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But if you can be honest with yourself, it can make you stronger. Yeah. You know, there’s a lot of guys that have gone through losses and came back way more dangerous. And there’s other guys that go through losses and there maybe they didn’t go through a process like yours ram maybe they had a little some self belief issues already and, you know, and they were ai manifesting themselves before the podcast.
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Yeah.
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Maybe they’re starting or before the fight rather. Maybe they were starting to get impostor syndrome. You know, like, some fighters get imposter syndrome. They start winning and they’re like, there’s no way I can be the champion. Yeah.
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This is crazy. And there’s a governor. Right? Like, a governor in a car that comes up where it’s like, alright. I can be successful up to this level, but anything beyond this is not safe.
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It’s scary. Yeah. It’s scary.
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But it’s like that that real animalistic primal part of yourself that comes out and goes, I couldn’t even constantly tell you why, but, like, I can’t go there. Like, I can’t get to that level of success if I ai. I’m gonna tear it all down. And we see people do that in
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everything. Well, it’s a it’s a weird fear for people that are trying to be successful because they’re listening to this and, like, that doesn’t make any sense. Mhmm. Like, why would you to be it’s because the pressure of maintaining it, especially, I think, if you came from nothing.
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Because if you came from nothing that you realize how lucky you are and you realize that, oh, my God, look how successful I am. I’m a world champion now or I’m in whatever you do in life. Yeah. And then you start thinking, what if I fuck this up?
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Yeah. What if I can’t keep it up?
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What
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if I can’t keep it up? What if it all goes away? Yeah. And I what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? And you start freaking out. And then if you go on social media, you start reading comments about yourself. So for fighters, that’s a real problem. Yeah. There’s a lot of fighters I see arguing with people. Fuck you pussy, I’ll smack you. Like, don’t do that.
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Yeah.
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You are wasting so much energy. You I’d rather you do heroin than do Twitter Yeah. If you’re a fighter. Like, get off there.
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But what we wanna do is we wanna get to them in place where they’re matter of fact by what they read, which sounds like almost impossible for a lot of people who are listening right now. Like, what do you meh? This person’s talking shit about me. But Brady is matter of fact about this now.
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Like, truthfully, he’s wired in a way that where someone starts to talk some shit about him, he can laugh about it. He can just matter of factly not be emotional about it.
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But it’s also because he’s on a hot win streak right now, and he looks awesome. And he’s super confident.
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He’s got a lot
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of momentum on his side.
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It’s compounding of the belief from the physical experience and then the belief that we we’ve wired into him. Right. So it’s both of those together. Right? It’s like the perfect perfect confluence of those two factors come together.
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Right. Right. Right. And then the confidence that comes from these wins, especially the the the last one. I mean, god, he looks so good. He looks so dominant. And to do that with a guy like Leon, who, you know, we saw those Usman ai, you know, we saw saw him knock out Usman. He’s really good, man.
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And for Sean to do that, I was like, wow, that’s a big turn of the corner. Not just a little turn, just a giant turn of the corner.
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But stylistically, that was kind of a fight made for Shah, though, don’t you think?
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Well, it could be until you take into consideration the second Kamaru Usman fight because Usman couldn’t take him down. Mhmm. That fight was primarily a stand up fight because Leon’s takedown defense had gotten so good. And Sai think there was that bump in confidence after the knockout, and he really felt like the champion now.
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So for Bilal to just step in and put a stop to all vatsal, and then, you know, to see then him lose the title to Jack Della, and then see what Sean just did. And you you look at the whole thing, you’re like, what a crazy shark tank of all these killers. Leon Edwards, Bilal, Mohammed, Della Madeline, and now you got Islam Makhachev in there. And it’s like, who can keep it together the most is a giant factor.
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Yeah. They’re all Giant factor. I know you don’t really fall football, but, like, this is like the Sai in football. Right? It’s the division that’s Alabama, LSU, Texas. It’s like, they’re all killers. So any given night, anyone could be anyone.
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And it’s
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just ai, who’s gonna show up and execute the best? And that’s what it comes down to.
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And then you got Michael Venom Page, who’s ai the biggest puzzle in the entire sport. Like, he’s also a one seventy.
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Yeah.
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That ai, good luck. Good luck training for that guy. Like, just good luck. Good luck. Super tall welterweight who moves like nobody, who is a world point fighting champion. Like, that is a totally different thing, that port point fighting thing. Have you ever watched that shit?
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No. I haven’t.
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Okay. Michael Venom Page was, at one point in time, the best karate point fighters. And the way karate point fighters fight, they stop after one person gets hit. It’s kind of like an elite form of tag with lethal weapons. Like, these guys are fucking good at these launches forward and blitzes, and they’re really good at getting out of the way because guys are blitzing at them all the time.
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So because of the style of the competition, they developed this very unique skill set of being able to close the distance extremely fast with a lot of lot of distance in between them and land very unpredictable shots. Like, he’s super creative. And he also knows how to wrestle now, and he also knows jiu jitsu now.
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So, like, now he’s a mixed martial arts fighter, but he’s got this one skill set that’s crazy unique. And I always said that’s the thing that’s missing in MMA because we see what happens when you get, like, a really elite boxer. We’ve seen what happens with a really elite kickboxer, a really elite jujitsu guy or wrestler.
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We haven’t seen really elite point fighter who learns all those other skills because it’s a different thing. It’s not like like, you know, Pereira fights. He’s not moving around a lot, dude. He’s coming right at you.
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Yep.
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There’s not a lot of dancing and it’s not a lot of, you know, fucking there’s not a lot of finesse.
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He just
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Sandhagen moves. You know, Sandhagen is, like, constantly giving you different looks and overloading your mind. Pereira is stalking you. Right? It’s very what Meh is doing is something totally different. Like, you can’t even touch him. He’s he’s hitting guys like guys that have, like, a lot of experience in the UFC. He’s hitting with shots they don’t see coming. They can’t hit him.
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Kevin Holland was like, where the fuck is he? I can’t even find him. This is nuts. The guy just launches himself at you, pops you, cracks you, and then he’s gone. And you’re like, okay.
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He’s moving way faster than anybody you’ve ever fought before and covers way more distance quicker than anybody you’ve ever fought before. So it’s ai the difference between someone who, is, like, standing in front of people and knocking sticks and an elite fencer.
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You
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know, you ever see those elite fencers? They dive forward. They dive forward and crack you. This guy can do that with, like, knockout
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shots. That’s wild.
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Because this is him when he was an, elite karate fighter. So this is point fighting. This is what it looks like. It’s really weird because the judges make decisions after each contact. But Sai
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can I Raymond Daniels here?
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This is Raymond Daniels who’s also, he was an elite point fighter who then went on and had big success in Glory and also big success in Bellator because of that style. It’s like a nutty style. He pulled off one of the greatest Raymond Daniels pulled off one of the greatest KOs I’ve ever seen in my life in kickboxing.
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It was a jumping ai that in midair, he turned into a spinning back kick to the face. It’s I’ve I’ve done it to a bag before. Yeah. I’ve never done it to a human being. And for him to do it to a human being in glory now sai if you you find the kickboxing one.
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It’s from glory. That this is the nutty one where he did, like, a 360 degree punch. Watch how crazy this is. Play play that because that’s what that was, what you just had. Watch this punch. So he hits him with its spinning back kick to the body.
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He lets him get up. Now watch this. What is that? That is bananas. He ballet punched that dude.
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Ai like anime. It’s like Dragon Ball z stuff right there.
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If that was in the kick like, Mortal Kombat Yeah. People, like, get out of here, bitch. Yeah. That shit would never work. But I want you to find his his, kickboxing KO. I wish I could remember the gentleman he was ai, but the guy who fought is legit too. And he hit him with a jump side kick, spinning back kick to the face in the air. So it’s ai that is a different thing.
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Mhmm.
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You’re like, what what what the fuck is this?
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So I know boxing a lot better than I know UFC. I’m just getting more into UFC recently. What where’s this guy in his career right now?
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He’s really high level. In the UFC, he’s gotta be top 10 in the welterweight division. But he, like, he shuts people down, man. He shuts people down in a wild way that I you you just don’t see much. The only person who figured him out was Ian Garry. Ian Garry out grappled him. He just got a hold of him and grappled him. But watch this jump ai. This is this is so bananas, dude. Watch this. Boom.
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Pissing that nuts. Ai sidekick to the body and then mid air turns into spinning back kick to the face. I mean, not everybody can do that. But when a guy can do that, if you don’t know that he can do that, you can get fucked up. Like, this Raymond Daniels can do some wild shit, man. And, again, he’s pulling it off against elite kickboxers. Yeah. Unbelievable.
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I mean, he had a couple of losses where they figured them out. Like, Joe Saloni, he’s the first ai, like, really brutalized his legs, brutalized his legs. He just had a high guard, move forward. And Valtellini is, like, very classic, like, hard nose kickboxer, arya lot of low kick, strong punches.
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He just kept breaking down his legs to a point where he just couldn’t walk and then he had kicked him. It’s pretty powerful. So that style could be figured out. You know, MVP lost in, he fought Douglas Lima and Bellator and got stopped in that fight because just Douglas was a beast at the time and and KO’d him.
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But it’s just ai that is a different puzzle, man. Yeah. It’s a different puzzle. It’s crazy. I just love the fact that there’s guys like that now in this sport where you’re looking at the sport that’s, like, 30 plus years old now.
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And there’s still guys that are complete innovators that are coming in when the whole thing’s changing. You’re like, woah. Okay. Alright. Now now we’re doing that.
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Now we’re doing front kicks to the face, you know. It’s an evolution. Now we’re doing calf kicks all of a sudden. Like, Bisping went his entire career without getting calf kicked. I mean, that’s nuts.
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Yeah. When you think about it. That’s crazy.
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That’s crazy. He’s a world champion. Went through his entire career. No one calf kicked him. That’s how weird the sport is. But I think what separates the guys is not just technique. It’s it’s not just being a specialist in one very particular area, which is obviously a huge factor, but also the mind.
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And a lot of guys don’t want to get help in that because they think that if they consult a sports psychologist, they’re a pussy.
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Yeah. 100%. Being vulnerable makes me weak. Yeah. Ai? That’s a core belief for a lot of guys. And so when you believe that to be true, you’re not going to create weakness within yourself, so you’re not gonna seek it out.
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Exactly.
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And there’s also a big stigma around, like, guys in professional, ai, anything. Right? Yeah. There’s, like, a range to comedians. Right? There’s a range to people who do what I do. There’s there’s kind of pussies who do it in a way. Right? There’s, like, people who are very, like, soft.
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Get in
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touch with your feelings.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Ai, the too far to, like, the woo woo or too far to, like, hey. I’m gonna follow this textbook where, really, this work is it’s art at the end of the day, what we’re doing. It’s ai, it’s a it’s something you feel your way through, and it requires years and years of practice to get to any level of mastery.
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That’s interesting. You’re talking about, like, managing your brain as art.
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Yeah. Well, because it’s it’s not just the brain. It’s the nervous system. It’s the whole body. It’s the energy body system. Ai? Sai we’re talking about you’ve heard of, like, meridians, right, that runs through the body.
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Is that all real?
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The chakras.
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I hear about that. But those those are things that I hear about, and I go, Ai wait to talk to somebody about it that’s a scientist. You could
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you could call it whatever you want. Right? We all feel like everyone feels anxiety right here, like, in their solar plexus.
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Yeah. You kinda feel in the center of your body. Right?
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Right. Boom. Right here.
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Like, oh.
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It’s this is the patterns Ai see with all these elite guys I’m working with. It’s like, I can just my awareness with them is I can just feel the same thing they can feel.
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Don’t you think that’s probably constricted breathing, though? Like, constricted breathing, that’s where you’d feel it. Ai feel it a
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great way to go. Constricted breathing is a byproduct of, like, a blockage in their body, and they just feel it.
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Don’t Don’t you think it’s adrenaline, though? It’s a giant adrenaline dump, and it’s also there’s an anxiety that comes with that if your mind starts spinning out of control. Like, do you do you train?
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Ai used to train boxing. Yeah.
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Have you ever done jiu jitsu?
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I haven’t done jiu jitsu.
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One of the things that happens in jiu jitsu when guys first get started, like, say if a guy has, like, maybe a distorted idea of how tough he is and he’s ai a big strong muscular ai, there’s a the those in particular, for whatever reason, seem to have a real problem when they grapple with a really good guy where they get pinned down and then they get, like, side controlled and mounted and they start hyperventilating. I’ve seen it I’ve seen it, like, several times from people that have never trained before, but the real buff.
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And they maybe have this idea of who they are arya that that idea is getting shattered.
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Yeah.
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Like, just shattered by a guy that doesn’t even look impressive.
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Mhmm.
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You know, but he’s just manhandling you. And the the hyperventilating thing to me seems like a bunch of stuff. It’s like the battle with reality. This can’t be happening. Oh ai god. This is happening. There’s the forgetting to breathe. There’s the elevated heart rate. There’s the dump of adrenaline. There’s all these different things.
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Connected. This is ai a a domino effect. Right?
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Right.
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Like the constricted breathing Yeah. The not being able to think clearly. It’s all a domino effect. Yeah. And kinda how I operate is, like, the belief is the thing that starts a domino.
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Ai? Sure.
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And so if your belief is being destroyed that moment, that’s what creates sai domino effect to the body, and the nervous system reacts in the way it does. Right. And so belief is formed in one of two ways. One is just it’s formed through life experience. Right? Like the Goggins of the world.
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He’s a very rare person who just builds belief off of doing it. Yeah. How many guys are like that in the world?
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By the way, shout out to my brother David Goggins who just completed the Bigfoot 200. Let’s go, Goggins. That dude that dude has no knees, ladies and gentlemen. He’s got no knees, and he just ran 200 miles through the fucking mountains. Did what did what did he do it in, like, sixty hours? It was posted today.
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Ai out what his time was. Yeah. Dude has no knees. Like, I don’t run. My knee’s pretty good.
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Well, that’s In comparison I
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ai that’s sai example of how belief can actually break reality of what’s supposed to be possible. Right?
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Well, it it certainly bryden it in the eyes of his doctor. His his doctor, when they first saw his knees, because he didn’t go in for anything for a long time. When the doctor first saw his knees, he was ai, I can’t believe you can walk on these legs. Forget about run thousands of ai. Like, this is nuts.
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He was not just bone on bone. His bone was distorting. So because it was rubbing bone on bone, it was ai forming these, like, little mushroom curves at the end of it. It’s like a it’s a type of, there’s a name for it, ai, that distortion. It’s called wolf something or another. He said they’d it’s ai theoretical.
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Like, they’d never seen it in a person before like this.
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So, like, alright. If that exists, like, that could work, but it shouldn’t. Like, we’ve never seen it.
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Maybe that doctor said it. I should be real clear on that because this is I’m hearing it from David Goggins. You know what I’m saying?
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Yeah.
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And Ai, like,
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what the fuck? Like, he’s telling me that. They told me it could never happen before.
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But regardless, he’s he’s breaking what reality is supposed to be in a way. Right? When you compare it to, like, a very large sample size.
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He is David Goggins is as much as you would sai, this is crazy. He’s ruining his body. Like, he doesn’t have to do this. That’s great. But what he’s doing is he’s carrying a torch for the human will
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Yes.
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In a way that very few people have ever done it because he’s doing it publicly. He’s doing it publicly, and that’s why I think it’s so important when I ai I talk about it all the time about how nuts it is. This guy has no fucking knees
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Yes.
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And he’s operating this way. So what does it say?
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I could try to find total I don’t know how they track it, but he was moving for a total time of two days, one hour, and seven minutes.
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Oh, so
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he did it in two days? I I thought I saw online ai. It took three days total?
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It’s the twenty hours of stop time. That’s like your rest time.
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Oh, right. I don’t know what course the overall ai. It says
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it says it listed here, which would be the race tracking.
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It says when he started and when he finished. Right?
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Sai he’s finished.
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Oh, it doesn’t say what time? Yeah.
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I don’t know when they started.
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Oh, is this all off the website ai is this ram leaders? Yeah. What place did he come in? Ninety third. He’s also 50. I mean, he’s a freak, dude, but he’s, like, carrying this torch
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for Yeah.
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You might not wanna do what he’s doing. Don’t I wouldn’t do what he’s doing. But I’m saying, it’s kinda crazy that this guy can, at 50 years old, can have these endurance workouts with world class MMA fighters like Israel Adesanya. And he’s got Izzy throwing up in a bucket, and he’s not even breathing heavy. And he does, like, multiple of those workouts a day in silence.
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He doesn’t listen to music. No one is telling him to do it. He’s got no coach. Yeah. Like, he’s out there, man. He’s out there.
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He just built it through pure willpower. Yes. I would say most people, almost everyone else in the world, they don’t have the ability to build that level of belief through their willpower.
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I don’t know if they don’t have the ability, but they don’t do it.
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He’s twenty third to finish. But if
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they don’t do it
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He was twenty third?
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His bib was 93.
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Oh, no shit. That’s amazing. Twenty third place, 50 years old, no knees. Crazy. What a monster. What a monster. Imagine that guy was after you. Like, what a monster. That’s just it’s beautiful. It’s like the a beautiful expression of will. Mhmm. Because that’s all it is. It’s just the will to go on, you know, and the discipline to continue to train like that every day.
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And then every time you test your will, you push it further. He’s like, I’m in the lab every day. Yeah. Like, he’s literally learning more about himself while he’s doing this.
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So why do you think, you know, millions of people read his book and then such a small percentage of people can kind of replicate that example he’s setting?
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I don’t think you wanna Not
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to his degree, but to any degree. Right?
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Yeah. Sai think it it ai moves your what your ai is. Right? It moves what you expect out of yourself. Moves that up a few notches. Because you know a guy like that’s out there. If you didn’t think a guy like that’s out there and you worked out the Ai three days a week and no one else did, you’d probably be impressed with yourself.
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You know, I’m about that fucking Y three days a week using the Nautilus machine. You know, it’s like
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Yeah.
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It’s all in who you’re comparing yourself to.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, obviously, I can’t compare to David Goggins. But when I when I know that a guy like that is out there in the world, it raises my own personal standard up a notch. I don’t ever I’m never gonna hit where what he does. I don’t have the time. He’s working up four or five hours every day.
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Yeah.
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It’s crazy. I don’t have that commitment either. It’s not what I’m interested in. But him doing that has, like, raised mine. When I look at, like, Jocko’s Instagram and every day it says 04:30 on his Timex, He, like, shows his Mhmm.
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You know,
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he’s got one of those what is that watch called? What’s that watch that he has that everybody wears? The digital Timex watch. It’s it’s a famous classic. Iron Meh? That’s it. Right? Is the Iron Man.
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Yeah. I know what you’re talking about.
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Yeah. This fucking bulletproof watch, of course, that’s what he wears, like, 04:09AM. That’s when he gets up to work out
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Yeah.
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Every day. But guys like that, guys like you, you guys are dogs. Right? You want it. You get inspired by that. Some people, they just feel deflated when they see that ai. Right? They’re just ai, that’s
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No, man. You gotta embrace it.
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It’s gotta be a It
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isn’t deflating because you’re so far from the finish line. It’s deflating.
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You know? But that’s why there there are fundamental ways to actually build belief within yourself. Like, there’s Yeah. Steps to do it. And that’s what, really, I wanna drive home for anyone who’s listening to this is that you can build belief, and it’s not just banging your head against the wall.
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I believe you. I’m sure there’s systems to it. Then that’s why I sana really wanted to talk to you. But the the whole idea of the meridians, like, how does that factor into it with you? Like, how do you what do you hang on this idea of, like, meridians in the body? Yeah.
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So I’ll talk about how I came to know them. Right? Yeah. Please. I was playing football and walked in the supplement shop looking for my next pro hormone.
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Oh, that’s right. I interrupted you ai there.
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Oh, good, bro. Well, we came back circle. We came back ai. Here
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we go.
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Like, we needed to. So two hundred and thirty pound, five foot three dude in there, just jacked. And I’m like, hey. What pro hormones do you have? And he looks at me. He’s ai, you know, he’s very, like, meh type of dude. And he’s like, why do you want it? And I was like, I’m trying to get on the football field. Like, what else could I do? I’m ai meathead. Like, I need to get stronger.
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It’s the only thing I can do. And then he’s like sai, how do you feel? Like, how do I feel? Like, this is me, 18 years old, atheist, don’t believe in anything, biggest skeptic you’re ever gonna meet in your life. And he’s like, I want you to try this exercise. And he has me just look off into the peripheries of my eyes.
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How long had you known this guy by then?
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Literally meeting him, and he just starts going in on me. Yeah. Yeah.
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Do you think he was trying to have sex with you or anything?
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Well, we can get into that.
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It’s just an odd thing to go right into meridians. How do you feel? Like, woah. Trying to get jacked.
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Yeah. Well, he’s just that type of dude. So I I call him like a sensei now because I have no
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Oh, you know ai still.
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. So I’m still
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So he’s just a weird ai?
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He’s a weird guy. Super weird guy.
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Lot of guys would have their hackles up though. Like, what? How do I feel?
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Like, meh
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100%. Oh, no. First, I was like,
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fuck off
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me, you know.
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Look at the creatine, bro.
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Get the fuck off. Yeah. You know what I mean?
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Like that. The fuck. Insecure meh energy, posturing up.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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Ai this guy’s trying to fuck me.
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But no. He just made everything feel approachable to 18 year old meathead. So he started teaching me these breathing techniques, like, for meditation.
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And he worked at a supplement store?
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He was working there at the time. He was he was studying for his neuroscience degree out of college Wow. To meh his master’s.
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What a, like, fortuitous coincidence
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Yes.
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To run into a dude like that where you’re trying to get jacked.
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That’s life. Right?
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Right? It is kind of. Right? Like, think about it. You’re looking for, like, the full meathead path and you run into a guy ai like, how do you feel? Like, what? What fuck?
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I don’t feel nothing, bro. I didn’t, though.
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Because nobody was talking about anxiety back then. Right. You ai, I had crazy performance anxiety. I didn’t know that was a thing. I was just like Yeah. I was like, I don’t feel good.
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I don’t know. What do
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you mean? Like, nobody is talking about their emotions.
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Yeah.
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And so he just started teaching me breathing techniques. He taught me up at the meridians, very simple ones that he’s like, okay. Visualize breathing energy in. This is martial arts stuff. Right? Mhmm. So much has to do with breathing. So he was into martial arts as well. Be like, alright.
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I want you to imagine breathing up your governing meridian and your central meridian, which is, like, right on your spinal cord and up to center line of your body. It’s like, alright. Breathe in deeply here. How do you feel? I was like, sai, I just feel more confident. I feel stronger.
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So he started just teaching me how to do simple stuff like that and then bring it onto, like, the football field. I was a ai lineman, and so I needed to knock people over. Same thing as martial arts. Right? I needed to feel grounded, so I needed to connect to my root chakra, which is you can call it whatever you want. I don’t care.
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But it’s, like, the root part of your body, primal, you know, ball sai area down there, the gooch, that.
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If you
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if you can start to breathe into the area of your body, you will feel more grounded, and you can actually become more grounded. So I started using these techniques just to play football. And by doing so, I was like, I don’t really care about studying the system super in-depth, but I was just taking the tools that were useful to me.
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Like, literally use these and use them to get stronger, like, to bench press more. It was just breathing techniques along with visualization, and they’re just following this ancient Eastern medicine.
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How did breathing techniques help your bench? So
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there’s some breathing techniques Ai sure you do in martial arts. Right? You put your, tongue behind your teeth.
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Mhmm. You can
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start to breathe in deeply. And if you start to visualize bringing energy down through the crown of your head and then meeting ai kinda like in the just below your belly button there, you can just start to build more energy, more power. You’re just focusing energy. Okay. That’s all you’re doing. And then if you visualize yourself lifting the weight, you’re gonna lift it heavier. And so How much heavier?
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There’s a bunch of research. You could look up, tons of different strength based task studies that show that visualization increases strength. Like, for example
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So that’s just kind of a a ai of visualization, you think? Vatsal breathing exercise?
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I was just stacking what was known as, like, basic meh lep imagery, p e t t l e p imagery, along with these breathing techniques and visualizing a specific way.
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Oh, I thought that when they say visualization helps performance, I thought it was, like, long term. I didn’t think it was, like, right before they did a thing. I thought the I thought I think it’s built, like, part of training.
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I think okay. So there’s two types. Right? So there’s, like, for example, there’s literally a study you could look up, and it’s ai a bicep curl. They did the study. There’s four different groups. The first group just didn’t do anything. Second group just did bicep physical curl.
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The third group did bicep curl plus visualization of doing curls. The fourth group did just visualization. The group that did the just the bicep curl and the group that did just the visualization performed the same. They had the same increase in strength, and the group that performed the best was the one that did the visualization plus the bicep curl.
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Interesting.
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And so there’s a bunch of studies like that that just show how when you just stack these different tools together, they can be beneficial. Yes. In the short tyler, for, like, a fighter, for example, like, this is what I’m training my guys. When we go into fight camp, every single time, we’re just training the subconscious to be comfortable being in the setting and just training the subconscious to my right.
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We’re just wiring, just digging in those grooves of, like, this is what’s gonna feel like. This is gonna be the experience and just wiring it
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in the
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way of having success. And then what I do is I notice. I’m like, how do you feel? How do you feel? How do you feel as we go along here? It’s like, oh, there’s doubt that’s coming up. Boom. Let’s go in there. Let’s get rid of that.
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And it’s not an intellectual thing to remove doubt. It’s a feeling thing in the body. And, honestly, I I don’t care what we call it. We call it in the shah. We call it just feeling in the body. You can say, alright.
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I feel doubt coming up right now at this point in the fight. Why? Well, I have this memory that’s created this scar tissue within my nervous system right now because this has happened before that I believe if I try to do this, then something bad is gonna happen. I’m gonna lose a fight. Right. So we need to actually accept that. Right? Zen proverb, what I can’t accept won’t change.
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So you use these breathing techniques to accept your way through it. The body ai relaxes through it, and then we let it go, and then we choose the opposite belief. And that’s the alchemy of the process.
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Do you know how many people were involved in the study that showed that the visualization right before the performance was better? Jamie, did you find it? Different one. This is about hip flexors? Hip flexors.
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Interesting. There’s a bunch of them out there though.
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Study whether mental training alone can produce a gain in muscular strength. 30 male university athletes, including football, basketball, and rugby players, were randomly assigned to perform mental training of their hip flexor muscles to use weight machines to physically exercise their hip flexors or to form a control group which received neither mental nor physical training.
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The hip strength of each group was measured before and after training. Physical strength was increased by 24% through mental practice. Strength was also increased through physical training by 28%, but did not change significantly in the control condition, whatever that means.
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That just means that people didn’t do anything. They didn’t visualize ai they didn’t change
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Oh, in the control group. Yeah. Okay. The con Ai I’ll I’ll I’ll get it. The I thought they were saying a different thing. The strength game was greatest amongst football players given mental training, mental and physical training, produced similar decreases in heart rate, and both yielded a marginal reduction in systolic blood pressure.
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The results support the related findings of whoever that is, that giant name. Interesting. Very interesting. So it definitely has an effect. And, and it seems like it definitely has a positive effect right before you’re performing any kind of athletics.
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Yeah.
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And I think these studies are over, like, at least a six week period of time. So if you sana see, like, strength based tasks, improve over time, like, they’re incrementally getting stronger. Right? It’s not just them. They’re ai maintaining that strength, I imagine, as long as they continue to do the visualization.
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Yeah. I wonder, you know, that’s the thing is ai most people that go to the gym, like most people who are listening to this have regular jobs. If they go to the gym, they don’t go visualize.
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Yeah. This is peak performance stuff we’re talking about.
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Yeah.
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Alright. This is proactively.
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This is elite. Don’t you if you’re trying to get better, like, what way to you you wanna get better, this is good for you too. Yeah. I know it sucks. You don’t wanna visualize your your kettlebell routines and visualize your muscles growing afterwards, but it might be worth a go.
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I’d like to hear from some people that try it. Because if that kind of results, that’s pretty Ai,
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it’s crazy.
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That’s pretty nutty, man.
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Ai like I’m saying, like, I did this stuff, and then I actually abandoned my football career because I liked it so much. And I went on and did research. I got a research grant just to look at the effect of using some of these techniques on bench pressing performance and also decreasing anxiety.
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Because for me, I realized when I was 18, 19, I had crazy anxiety. I was like, alright. This stuff is helping. You know? Call it meditation, hypnosis, whatever you mean. If you can progressively relax yourself, right, sitting in a float tank. Right?
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If you can just do that if you can progressively relax yourself, your anxiety is gonna go down, your cortisol levels are gonna go down. The whole body is gonna thrive. And this is actually, like, connected to so much that has to do with our health, kind of ai sai full circle is I see so meh.
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All the professional athletes come to me with these injuries. The physical therapist working on it, working on it, working on it. Nothing’s happening. It’s just a nagging injury every single time. If I can relax them enough and I can get to the root emotional core of whatever’s creating this pain for them, and it’s usually emotional.
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It’s actually ai a memory or some ai of mental block, like, the governor is coming in. Right? I’ll see it with some guys in, like, the lower minor leagues. He’s trying to go up to the major leagues. And it’s ai these things will just start to express themselves when they’re just about to get to that next level.
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And if we can move through the emotional side of it, the pain disappears.
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Right. But not in all injuries. Right? Like, there’s gotta be, like, legitimate injuries where guys blow their meniscus out, guys have broken shin bones that have to be reconstructed.
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Stuff that can’t be explained. Like, a ai of ai, right,
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you go to the doctor, like, I don’t know what your
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ai is. Right? That happens all the time.
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Okay. Well, that’s a different thing. I mean, the the realities of physical injuries that guys get from combat sports training are real. Ai, if you have bulging discs in your neck and your arm goes numb, that’s that’s a real problem. Yeah. You know, it’s not just an emotional thing.
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Ai speaking about things that are, like, nagging and you’re doing the physical therapy and it’s not working.
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Right.
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K? If that’s you, then Ai.
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So, yeah, we gotta be specific. Right? So you’re talking about, like, weird stuff that does come up where they’re almost ai psychosomatic injuries because guys are responding badly to the pressure. And not even just the the pressure. It could just be
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it could be an injury that existed before, but it’s just not healing. For whatever reason, it’s not healing, and it’s just kinda recurring. If you can get to the emotional root, it’ll keep that. Ai, I have a phone with this now. I always look up whenever someone tells me their injury.
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I just look it up, chat GPT. What is the spiritual emotional connection to this injury? And it’s usually right on point. I’ll be like, what do you think about this? They’re like, oh, yeah.
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That’s
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Spiritual emotional connection to but not to, like, legit injuries ai a broken hand.
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Yeah. I mean Do you know what I mean? Yeah. For sure.
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Ai, someone breaks their hand, they gotta get screws and plates in there. Sure. Yeah. That’s not you can’t look that up on chat g b t. Yeah. He broke his fucking hand.
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I’ll give you an example. Like, I have so many of these. Right? It might be, like, someone has, like, a a hamstring that’s just nagging. Right? A lot of athletes. Ai, I pop my hamstring, it just won’t feel normal again. Alright? Right. I look that type of stuff up. It’s like, alright.
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Well, why is this going away? Ai I work with, like, pitchers in Major League Baseball. It’s like my hip. It’s like, well, why why is this coming up now? And usually, there’s always, like, some kind of root. And if we can get to it, we can relieve it.
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I bet there’s a lot of guys too that have if you think about making a living with your body, you make a living in a sport with your body where you’re putting your body through explosive movements that could blow joints out. So there’s always this anxiety
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Yes.
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That all could go away.
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Yes.
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One twist of the ankle, one blow out. I mean, look at, people all the time lose their careers in football and in martial arts because they blow a knee out or they blow their back apart.
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Bro, there’s only, like, 10 core beliefs that create fear in athletes I’ve seen. Like, there’s not that meh, and one of them is the one you’re pointing out right now is like
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Life changing injuries.
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Will I be able to sustain it? You know, the core is ai, will I be able to sustain this or will I be able to continue to do the thing that I love?
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Right.
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And, of course, like, ai. If you get injured, then you’re gonna lose it all.
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Did you ever talk to Weidman after he broke his leg?
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I did. Did you? I did.
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Yeah. Does he openly talk about that? Are we allowed to talk about this?
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Yeah. I mean, he gave me a a testimonial, so I think
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he’s Okay.
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He’s pretty open.
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He gave him, like, like, ai, so he could talk about it.
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Yeah. He put, like, a video testimony. I’m He’s one
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of the toughest guys that’s ever fought in the UFC. He’s an animal. And that guy in his prime was fucking terrifying. Yeah. But that injury that he got is one of the absolute hardest injuries to recover from. That broken meh, when they break their shin in half like that, very few people ever come back. Yeah.
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I mean, there’s one guy I believe that’s a heavyweight in Bellator. It happened to him, and he’s fighting again and fighting well. I don’t know his name. See if you could find his name. But Anderson was never the same after his. Tyrone Shah was never the same after his. Ai was never the same after his.
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It’s just and psychologically, it’s gotta be fucking crazy to think that you threw a super powerful kick that broke your own leg in half. And now you’re expected you went through a year and a half of hell to try to just get to the point we can hit paths again. Yeah. And now you’re gonna go risk it again, might kick someone’s knee again and break your shin again and do that again, and then you can’t walk again?
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What we’re talking about is like that just so it could be a physical scar tissue, it’s that emotional scar tissue, you know? It’s just ai, it’s hard for those thoughts not to come back into your head of, like, I need to be extra careful here.
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Well, they’re reasonable thoughts. Yeah. Of course. If you think about it. But it’s ai Chris had that style. What I meh, that the kick that he threw in Uriah Hall was full blast. I mean, he fucking ripped that kick. And then when I heard that snap,
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oof.
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I’ve heard that snap a couple of times and it is the most horrible sound, man. The sound of a bone breaking, like a person’s bone breaking is ai, oof. Fuck. It gets you, like, in every cell in your body, like, goddamn. That’s awful. And I’ve seen it a bunch. I’ve seen it, you know, at least half a dozen times. I’ve seen people get a a bone broken.
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Yeah. It’s traumatizing.
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Yeah. To come back from that is very hard. Because we’re talking about the anxiety of always worrying about getting injured, and then you get injured from maybe a kick you through or Tim Sylvia Ram Meh. Frank Mir broke his arm or Frank Mir Minotaro, a spiral fracture from that Kimura, like, fuck. Coming back from something like that is really hard. Yeah.
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But what do you do for a fighter when you’re trying to rebuild them? Do you do you take each fighter as a a a unique project and you just wanna know everything about them and how you know, what what bothers them about themselves? Yeah. What bothers them about their discipline?
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Sai how
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do you do it? I’m gonna explain
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what I do. It’s gonna sound woo woo, but I also wanna contextualize it with the fact that, like, I didn’t believe in anything. Like, it’s just ai my experience of, like, doing this stuff for seventeen years now and just seeing and feeling my way into this art that now I speak about things that the old me, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, would be like, shut the fuck up.
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Right? But so what I do with any of my clients is I bring them to a very relaxed state. You know? Like, Like, think of custody motto. What do you do with Mike Tyson? Like, that’s what I’m doing with these guys. Right?
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So I’m bringing them almost into a hypnotic state, and I’m bringing them down into this place where they finally let go. They’re no no longer trying to, like, keep me out, defend, keep up this, like, identity they want to project into the world. Mhmm. So they can actually get to the insecurities because I don’t touch any of the beliefs that are working for them.
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If someone has positive beliefs or successful, I don’t touch any of that stuff. All I’m trying to find is their insecurity, their fear, their anxiety, their doubt. Right. And so I’m just digging deeper and deeper into their body until we start to, like, think about things they wanna achieve as ai, oh, what was twitchy there? Right?
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Something twitches in them. It’s like, I’m feeling ai I’m getting angry now. Why ai you getting angry? Right? Why do we get angry?
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It’s because we’re afraid, and we’re trying to defend ourselves. And so if I find someone like that, I feel into it with them, and then I ask him. I’m like, what would what do you believe in to be true that make you feel this way right now? And if I sit there long and I hold him in that tension, it’ll eventually come up. And through that, we can release that belief.
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We can accept our way through it first. We can release it, and we can reprogram it.
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How are you setting this up? Are you is this actual hypnosis? Are you doing, like, hypnotic techniques?
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Yeah.
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Yeah? And how did you learn how to do that?
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Same ai. Sensei.
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Sensei? Yes. Does he have a cult? Yeah. Do you have a cult that we could join? A one
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of one.
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So this guy taught you hypnosis techniques as well? Yeah.
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Yeah. He taught me a lot of different thing. Hypnosis, NLP, ai therapy. And then I didn’t go on and get a secondary degree. So I studied the I created my own degree. I went to a liberal arts school in LA, the the mental aspect of human performance. But everything I was learning that was helping me and my teammates, I was learning outside of school.
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So I was like, I’m not gonna go get spend $200,000 in getting a secondary degree when I’m learning everything else outside of school. So I’ve just continued to go to workshops, learn, study with different people who know how to do different techniques, and I that’s how I learn very kinesthetically.
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In the same way that if you’re doing martial arts, you’re just trying to go to as many masters as you can.
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Mhmm.
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This guy jiu jitsu. This guy kickboxing. That’s just what I’ve done. I’ve gone and tried to find different people who are really good at what they do, and that’s how I learned through doing and actually experiencing the work of myself first. If it works for me, then I try it on my clients. If it works for them, I just keep it going. And I just I don’t have one technique.
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I use many different techniques. Whatever the moment calls for, that’s what I use.
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Are there even degrees that you could get in human performance that would sort of match the kind of studying that you’re doing? No. Is there anything like, if you went to a major university, do they consider human mental performance and human performance, whether it’s in athletics or chess or anything like that, where you have to really think through things and deal with pressure?
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Do they consider that an a discipline? Is that something that they study?
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I think sports psychology, I think you need to do
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That doesn’t that sounds very rudimentary.
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It is.
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Like sports psychology versus human performance.
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It is.
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When you think about this conversation that you and I are having, we’re we’re one of the things that we’re talking about is the how important it is to have a mindset that allows you to work your way through difficulties and become successful at a thing and just get out of your own way. Everybody wants to do that. So if that’s a real thing, why wouldn’t that be taught in every major university? They won’t let you smoke the toad at school.
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That’s why. But they don’t have to specifically advocate for it. But the kids are gonna do it anyway. But but what’s important is that they should recognize that this is a thing. Yeah.
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Like, if it’s a thing if we all agree, and I bet any competitive athlete in any sport has experienced anxiety. And you’ve had days where you felt amazing and you performed amazing, and then you’ve had days where you doubted yourself and you fucked up and you dropped the ball or whatever you did.
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There’s there’s this weird battle that goes on in the head, and it’s all it has a giant result, whatever’s going on in your head, and how you perform.
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Yes. And you always talk about where do ideas come from. Right? Like, where do they magically come from?
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Mhmm.
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I don’t know where they come from exactly, but I know how they’re getting filtered. And it’s just through the beliefs because our belief system deletes, distorts, and generalizes information. And the fact that nobody not nobody, but many people don’t understand how that filtration system works just limits so many of us from achieving what we want because we’re literally, like, we all know, like, the girl who’s, like, dated an asshole, and she’s, like, all men are assholes.
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Right? She’s deleting the story and generalizing, like, her best friend who’s married to an incredible guy. Right? But when you believe something, you literally shape the world to make it match it.
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Right. Yeah. You you kind of do. Yeah. And if you believe bad things, bad things will happen to you.
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No. 100%. There’s millions of pieces of information that you can see, smell, taste, or touch in any moment. There’s so much sensory information. We can only pick up on a few in our conscious mind in any moment. So that’s where the ideas come from.
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I also think it’s interactive more than we like to admit.
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Tell me about that.
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I don’t think, you can manifest your own reality, but I think you have a part in the process. And the thinking part about and the visual not necessarily visualizing, but staying on a path. Yes. It there’s there’s an element that’s going on there that’s affecting reality itself.
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It’s there’s there’s a weird exchange of energy between human beings and between reality itself that I don’t think we’ve figured out how to measure. I don’t think it’s as simple as, you know, life is a series of events and it all takes place randomly and good luck to you.
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The synchronicities are undeniable.
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Yeah. There’s some stuff that’s weird. There’s some stuff that’s weird that makes me think without going full woo woo, maybe we just don’t have a grasp of the full spectrum of all the things that are happening, of all the factors at play. And how many of them have to deal with, you you know, we would air quote energy?
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Yes.
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You know, that’s where the woo woo comes in.
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Right? How I appeal to my rational mind to make this make sense. Right? Sai I think about beliefs are ai the code of our mind that’s constantly filtering in the information. All this code does is determine how I’m gonna feel, and that feeling is either gonna either gonna make me wanna go towards something or pull away from it. Yeah.
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So I just want my beliefs to push me or pull me towards the things that I want because it’s gonna lead to me behaving in a way that gets to an outcome. Yes. Sai simple as that.
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Yeah. Well, that’s logical. But everybody’s starting from a different place. Right? So, there’s some people that are starting from a devastating place of a lack of self belief. Yes. And for those, it’s just gonna be a longer journey
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Yep.
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To get to some sort of positive outcome. But a lot of people just don’t know how to begin the first steps. Like, they want to. Like, if you didn’t have, like, no confidence, you feel like shah, you feel like every day is garbage. Everywhere you go, you think, oh my god. Everyone’s gonna hate me. Well, there’s a lot of people that walk through life like that. Yes.
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You want the first step? What’s the first step? It’s awareness. Awareness. Yeah. Set an alarm on your phone every three hours just to ask yourself how do you feel.
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But you feel like shit every hour on the hour. Like, I feel so uncomfortable.
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In that. Right? Because most people, like, cut themselves off at, like, the the head, and they just stay in the thoughts, the negative thoughts, but they don’t actually go into the feeling. So that that’s step one.
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Okay.
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Just to sit in the shit pit of full awareness of all the feelings. Then from there, set an alarm for the next week that go, okay. Feel what’s coming up and then ask yourself, what were you focused on? Then you could start to take some kind of ownership over, like, where are those thoughts coming from?
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Right.
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How is my focus creating the way that I feel? Right? Uh-huh. And you can start to start you can start to see your beliefs by connecting those dots of, like, alright. Why is that making me feel angry? So you have to feel first and then notice what you’re focusing on. And then you start to come into this feeling of, alright. Well, I’m seeing it. Right?
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It’s the the four stages of learning. You’re getting to this place of conscious incompetence. I see that I make myself feel bad. I don’t know how I’m doing it. And then you can go, okay. What if I arya to flip the focus and I started to build that muscle?
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Because this is the way I think about the mind and all of these things is it’s a muscle just like the body. You can start to train it. Your mind just picks up on these patterns of repetition just like striking back, just like anything else if you do something over and over again. Right?
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You say the same things to yourself over and over again. The repetition starts to make its way down to subconscious level.
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Well, Huberman talked about that that area of the brain that actually grows larger when you do things you don’t wanna do and you build discipline. So it really is like a muscle.
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So you don’t wanna focus on the thing that is good for you because it feels like, ugh, yucky. It’s like I’m lying to myself. But that’s the ai. Just flip it. Just continue to flip it.
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But for some people, they don’t know how to get started with these thoughts, like, without hiring a coach. Ai mean, is do you have it laid out in the book like what what someone’s gonna do ai the most are?
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It’s a literally playbook. Just do everything in the second half of the book.
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It’s sai ai
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What I’m
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what I’m getting to this is though, like, you know, do you’re dealing with a guy like Sean Bryden. He’s already tough as fuck. He’s already, you know, elite MMA fighter. He has this loss, but he’s already a beast of a human being.
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Yeah.
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When you’re dealing with people that don’t have any athletic background and, you know, maybe they just have a job and they just have no fucking confidence when they’re sick of it. They’re sick of, like, living life in this anxiety pit of despair and they wanna find a way out. There’s gotta be, like, multiple different things that have to happen.
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Right? So it’s not just the way you think, but there’s also, like, actions. And I think
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This is an action. Right? Step into awareness. Yes. Feel it. The next set of actions the next week, step into awareness of what you’re feeling and what are you focusing on that makes you feel the way. That’s another set of actions.
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But do you feel like this is all possible for someone to, achieve without some kind of physical exercise in coordination with it? Because it seems ai
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exercise you talking about?
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It feels it seems to me that people with depression in particular, like, one of the best cures for depression is regular ai. Any kind of sai. Ai it’s jog you know, fucking go jog around the lake, whatever whatever you wanna do.
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Well, listen. Even before any of this is low hanging fruit. Sai, like, in the book, I take it I have people do an intake of their ai. And I have them also kinda just look at all the low hanging fruit of, like, if you’re drinking vodka bottles at 7AM in the morning, like, that’s sai low hanging fruit you need to start to find a way through.
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Drink one instead of three. Right? There’s all these, like, small steps you have to take.
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One bottle instead of three? Is that what
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you’re saying? Little tiny bottles. Come on. Oh. You know know what I’m saying? Like, this
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If you’re drinking vodka in the morning, like, you’ve got bigger problems.
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Bro, I’ve I’ve had clients who are, like, you know, high level executives that are so stressed that they drink first thing in the morning. I’ve had and I’ve helped them get off it completely, but it starts with something like that of, like, alright.
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Well, that’s a big duh. Right? But what I’m getting at is, I think, if you want to have less anxiety, you gotta ring some of it out of your physical body as well, and that’ll help you achieve clarity. You have to think about it like an like a nutrient that you’re taking or brushing your teeth or doing some take your medication.
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You have to really think about it like that. And it doesn’t matter what kind of stuff you do. It doesn’t matter whatever you like to do. If you like to do yoga, you wanna go hike with a weight vest on, you wanna do push ups in a a parking ai, like, do whatever. Do something.
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I couldn’t agree more.
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You just
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have to do something where you push yourself because if you don’t, your body stores up. It seems ai all this anxiety.
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Yes.
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And the reason why I believe this one of the reasons why I believe this is like, I’ve had some of ai the best mindsets ever in my life after yoga classes and long stretching sessions
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where
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Ai I’m working on something. I’m just like, you know what? I’m gonna stretch out here and I’ll just sit and stretch for an hour and a half, two hours. And when I get up, I feel wonderful. I feel like the world is beautiful. I wanna hug people. I feel so peaceful. I love doing that, like, right before I do stand up. It’s, like, one of my favorite things is to really stretch out right before I do stand up.
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And I just feel so relaxed. It’s so diff so you’re carrying around actual physical tension
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Yes.
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That affects your mind. That’s why I think regardless of the tools that you use in turn yes. All of it.
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I’m all of it. That’s why I’m not just mental performance. Yeah. Like, it has to be all of it. It’s nutrition. So important. Right? The gut brain axis. It has to be nutrition, exercise, rigorous exercise. How about your career? Living a life where you have, like, some sense of meaning, right, and starting to move towards that?
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Right. Don’t do something you hate just because it pays you if you have an option to do something that you might possibly love. If you want a better life, that’s the life. Even if you’re making less money, that’s the life. You don’t wanna be doing something you don’t wanna do.
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You’re trying to decrease the amount of stuck energy in you.
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Yes.
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That’s what
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you’re trying to do. When you feel suppressed
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Right.
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You’re not doing what you wanna do, the energy gets stuck.
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And if you’re doing a job that you hate and you know you could be doing something else, you just have never fucking gone for it. Like, oh, that’ll eat away.
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Back of your head, it’s just always there. It’s always there. It’s always there.
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Forever and ever and ever. It’ll always eat away at you that you never took a chance. You just they show up every day, 9AM, kachunk chunk, punch in, fuck. Just waiting for 5PM. Fuck. And then you get off and you’re tired.
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Yeah.
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You know, and then you see other people that didn’t do that, and you you feel like shit even more. And then, you know, it’s like it’s you’re 40, and it’s too late you feel like but it’s not.
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It’s never too late.
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Are you breathing? Are you alive? Okay. Then you can figure out something better than what you’re doing. You don’t have much time left.
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Yeah. That self suppression creates a depression in any aspect. Right? Yeah. Anytime you’re trying to just just, like, squeeze in, hold it in, hold it in, whether it’s an inspiration you have, whether it’s like, hey. I wanna go play this sport
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Right.
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But I just never make time for it. That’s self suppression. Like, you have to make time for your natural inspiration to flow through you. And if you don’t, I think that’s what creates depression.
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Well, it’s very hard for people to get going, to just to just to actually do something. And, I brought this up a million ai, and I’ll bring it up again, unfortunately. Steven Pressfield has an amazing book called The War of Arya. And it’s about vatsal suppression that you put on yourself, that that weird and he calls it resistance.
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Yes.
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And, you know, he talks about summoning the muse and deciding that you’re professional and show up every day. And I think it’s the same with that. It’s the same thing. It’s, like, it’s hard to just get off the couch and put your shoes on. Like, Goggins talks about it. He’s, like, I stare at those motherfuckers for half an hour sometimes. Meh. I don’t know. But he always puts them I believe him.
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He doesn’t lie
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for thirty minutes?
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Yep. A 100%. He doesn’t lie. He’s telling you the truth.
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That’s wild. Yeah.
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Because he brutalizes himself. It makes sense that he stares at them for thirty minutes, but he probably literally stares at them. Yeah. Fuck
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you. He’s just cussing him out.
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And then he just puts him on.
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You don’t
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know me, sai. Exactly. Then he puts him on. So it’s there’s something there, you know?
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There is. That resistance that Pressfield talks about, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Right? Yeah.
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It’s doing something to you.
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Whether you’re an athlete Yeah. Whether you’re a creative. I mean, I think it ai to everyone. Like, the resistance is whatever is holding you back from following your natural inspiration.
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Well, I think a big part of that resistance is a fear of failure. There’s a thing that hovers over people, this fear of failure, and that that actually it keeps you from just doing the things that you need to do to be successful. You get you get you get afraid
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Yeah.
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For for whatever weird reason. It becomes a predominant fear in your head.
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Broken code. There’s so many reasons. Like, I’ll give you an example. So I ran, like, a big fitness channel when I was trying to make it before I started working with cool clients who were like Shah Brady and built a big fitness community. And I would see that, like, a mom who’s not doing her ai, and she’s like, why don’t you just do it? Just do it. Just get up.
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Just do it. You deep you go down into a subconscious to find, oh, well, I believe that if I start working out, I won’t have time to be the mom that I am right now, and then my kids will leave me. Completely irrational. But subconsciously, that’s what exists down there. For so many people, they think they’re gonna lose out on something.
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And if they lose it, it’s not worth it subconsciously than doing the thing that they’re inspired to do.
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It’s but it’s also ai people that their health is bryden, and then, unfortunately, they’re not eating correctly. And that’s why their health is bad, and they have zero energy. And so the daunting task of doing something on top of working all day, it’s almost, like, overwhelming to them.
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Yeah. And
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then if they have kids, and they have a bunch of and then the option is get up at 6AM, like, no. Fuck you. Well, that’s
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the power of transmuting the energy. So just flipping the energy on it. Right? To go from this is gonna make me a worse mom to this can make me a better mom. And maybe that will give them enough juice to actually go do the workout.
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Maybe. Maybe. I mean, there’s gotta be something that you can do to trick yourself into having the energy to get arya. But that’s kind of what it is. It’s ai you’re you have to trick yourself into getting started. And then when you get to an elite athlete level ai Brady, it’s gotta be about making sure the process is airtight. Right?
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It’s gotta be, like, really tuning it in. Right? Like, making sure it’s finely tuned.
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Yeah. Basically, fight week, I want his energy. I want him to be matter of fact about everything. Just a matter of fact. Just neutral. Just sitting right here. You know that feeling you have in your heart where you’re just, like, ai?
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Mhmm.
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Just right there. Right there.
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And but what how do you get there? Like, what’s the way to get there?
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So for him at the elite level, it’s going down, and it’s clearing out anything that comes up during camp. It might be and this isn’t actually Sean, but, like, I work with a lot of other fighters. And for them, it would be, oh, I’m losing in, some of my sparring sessions. And so their confidence is actually going down because of that. Mhmm.
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And so it’s literally reprogrammed that belief inside ai them. And this sounds if you ever want to do a session, you’ll actually be able to feel it with me. And what happens is we transmute the energy to make them feel that it’s okay to believe that even when they’re losing and sparring, they’re getting better.
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And so if something just shifts inside of them, instead of it creating a seed of doubt when they’re, like, working on something, they’re drilling something, and they’re not winning everything, now it’s okay. I’m getting better. And it’s just a feeling that shifts in them.
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Well, that is reality. Right? I mean, as long as they’re not getting truly beat up
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Rationally, of course.
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Sparring vatsal good place.
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But that survival instinct or that goes, I should be winning everything
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Yeah.
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Doesn’t like that. And so we sometimes we have to rewire this thing. So that’s what we’re doing as we’re going through camp ram, like, seeing what comes up, what’s decreasing confidence, what are you dialed in everything? You know, I’m working with the other coaches as well ai making sure, are they doing what you want them to do? And if they’re not, what’s going on here?
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And that’s ai of my job.
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So it it it has to have, it it rather, it requires a very strong connection between you and the athlete.
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Oh, deep. I would say that nobody knows any of my clients better than them except for maybe their wives.
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Better than you know them?
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Yeah. It’s an extreme intimacy because I talk about some in the book called the core wound. So the worst thing that ever happened to you is the worst thing that ever happened to you. But some people have you know, they might have witnessed a murder ram maybe they lost a parent when they were young, ai, something really bad.
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Another person might have been bullied when they’re in the fourth grade and kicked out of a friend group. If we identify what that core wound is for them, that fundamentally hurts their confidence to this day and we clear that out, we can exponentially increase just their confidence and their self belief.
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But the only way we get there is they’re telling me their deepest, darkest secret.
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Right. But how do you clear it out once you
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There’s just some of these techniques. There’s something like called, like hypnosis. Right? You can use it with hypnosis, NLP. They’re all these mind techniques that you can utilize to clear the energy, which clears the emotion.
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So NLP, that is, like that Anthony Robbins stuff. Right? Neurolinguistic ram. That’s what he does. Right?
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I think it’s part of what he does. I don’t know. I’ve never worked with him. But
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And did you go to school to learn neurolinguistic programming? No.
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I just studied with someone who taught it to me. Yeah. I just learned very well one to one. Just ai that’s how I learned.
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You’re not totally familiar with it. How how complicated is NLP? Because I know some people, like, really believe
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in it. Perception. Right? I that’s why it
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explain what it means when you say neurolinguistic programming. What does that mean? Yeah.
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I don’t even know what the I don’t know how to explain neurolinguistic programming, but I would just tell you what it is Okay. Fundamentally. You’re just playing with perception. Right? So someone has something’s easy for me to get rid of is ai the the fear of flying. I have this baseball player this year I’m working with.
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Every time he gets on a flight, he starts freaking out. Unnecessary. So what do we do? We imagine him on the plane, and I have him sit, visualize being on the plane and starting to get to that place of anxious where the thoughts, oh, the plane’s in a crash. He knows it’s irrational, but why is he feeling this anyway? We have to go into it. Feel the emotion. Feel the emotion.
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Then I have him imagine, for example, a giant picture in his mind in his mind’s eye. And this picture is holding him and all the anxiety and the worst case scenario happening, and then we, boom, get rid of the color in the picture. And then we imagine this picture becoming super ai, and then we imagine it just disappearing.
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And then we put a new picture in there of him being able to fly, not crash, be able to do it all the time, and be successful.
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01:10:57
That’s it?
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That’s it. What if
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it was 09:11 and
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he flew
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right into the tower right after he gave him that advice?
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Well, that sucks.
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How would you feel? Would that be it? You’d be like, I quit. I’m done. Yeah.
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Ai mean, they sound like very simple techniques, but it’s something you have to experience.
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Yeah. But it would it would seem to me that it would be very difficult to get people to actually change their beliefs that easily. Like, the idea sounds sana, but the, the actual process of shifting how you view the world, depending upon the person, is like turning a battleship around.
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Yeah. It is. It’s heavy. I don’t know. I mean, this is the stuff that goes beyond the rational mind. Like, if you were to experience it, you’d be like, okay. I get it. Yeah. But it’s a it’s a emotional experience. I mean, how do you there’s some things we can’t explain. Right? Like, how do you explain going through the veil on a psychedelic experience?
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It’s something that you can’t really explain
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when
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you come back on the other side. It’s that kind of thing where it’s ai, when you’re in the experience, it’s ai like, how is this supposed to be possible? I explain the techniques irrationally, but, like, what are you talking about? Same thing if you have this immense psychedelic experience and you’re passing through the veil and you’re seeing all these things, having this experience of interconnectedness, Ai try to come back and you tell someone who’s never had a psychedelic experience.
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And be like, what are you talking about?
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Yeah. There’s not enough words. No.
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No words work. This stuff goes beyond language. It’s the same thing.
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Yeah. You could sai, like, I saw a beautiful rose, and I’m like, oh, cool. I know what that looks like.
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That’s why it yeah. Yeah.
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Exactly. There’s not enough words for a psychedelic experience.
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So this work that’s why I like I put together the playbook. So I give people actual things that they can do ai I understand not everyone’s gonna work with me one to one and be able to experience this. But people can do these simple ai. People can audit their life, and they can see some of the patterns of thinking.
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And just the awareness of seeing some of the ai you’re thinking, if you study enough, you might be able to change it. Right? We’ve all had bad habits. And sometimes it just gets to a point where, like, ai. I’m not doing that anymore.
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So this neurolinguistic programming, do you specifically design this kind of so you what you you do that as one of the things you do?
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Yeah.
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I
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Ai you specifically design different ones for different people that you work with if you’re gonna work one on one with a client?
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Honestly, I don’t know what I’m gonna do before I go to go into any session. It’s all just Ai just feel it in the present moment. I mean, you could think of it ai, I have all these tools I can use, and then I feel into what their issue is. And then I do my best with the tools I have to fix their issue. I’m just problem solving at the moment.
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Does it feel weird to do that as a career? I mean, that sounds like a crazy job. It feels like honestly so much so much weight on your shoulders to try to help a person, like, especially ai to help an elite athlete. Like, knowing what to say and how to get their mind tuned in right and what to what to introduce and whether or not this technique is effective.
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Am I doing this right?
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I just don’t think Ai I surrender to something bigger than myself. Mhmm. Alright? That’s what I have to do. It’s just allow
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How did you know that you could do it, though? Like, how did you know that this was gonna be, like, really effective, especially on someone ai a fighter where it’s, like, this is a really complicated gig. Like, you really you wanna talk about a a sport where you have to have your mind right? Mhmm. Like, there’s no sport like fighting.
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Yeah.
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Because any mistake you make, you you’re gonna get head kicked.
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Yeah. Well, I lose too sometimes. Right? So, like, Weidman, I helped him come back his first fight back from after he broke his leg. And he said that’s the best he’s ever felt in his career going into a fight. He still lost sai fight.
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Yeah. There’s a physical factor there too, that whether or not a guy like Weidman never wants to admit because he’s so tough, because he has this incredible belief in himself. But a catastrophic break of a bone like that when you’re in your late thirties, that is hard to come back from, man. That’s not simple.
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Yeah.
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It takes a long time. And, you know, he came back, you know, he he eventually reached a higher a higher level than his first fight back, but he doesn’t, you know, necessarily look like Chris Bryden when he beat Anderson Silva.
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Yeah.
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Or Chris Wyman ai 39 now. Yeah. 40. Yeah. Unfortunately. And these guys, it’s like, if you’re natural and he’s natural, they they get to a certain point where the body just can’t keep up with the brain. Like, their brain is so strong and they’re so tough, but their body is not a 24 year old’s body anymore. It doesn’t move right anymore.
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Yeah.
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And this accumulation of injuries regardless of your belief system Yeah. It’s just your foot doesn’t work anymore, bro.
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You know
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what I mean?
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That was me understanding, like, when I was 18 years old, I’m like, I’m I’m not that good at football. Like, I don’t have the physical gifts. Like, I’m just not that, but, like, I’m not gonna run that fast. And when so this is how I discovered it. Right? I started to learn these techniques.
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Like, I can do things like get rid of someone’s headache very easily with some of these techniques. So, like, I have a teammate, had a terrible headache. Ai be like, alright. Let’s do some of these hypnosis relaxation techniques. He’s like, my headache’s gone. I’m like, I’m way better than this than I was at football.
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And that was a spark within me that made
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me money.
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Ai would take him to the hospital. I’m like, bro, you might be having a stroke. Let’s get you to the hospital. It’s sai headache. Come on. When a guy who’s a tough guy complains about a headache, I always get concerned.
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He wasn’t that tough.
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Well, he’s a football player. He’s gotta be tough. Yeah. Bro, you wanna see tough? Look at LeBron James’ feet. I was looking at LeBron James’ feet ai online. Have you seen him, Jamie? Yeah. For sure. Bro, how does that guy play elite basketball
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Yeah.
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With those fucked up feet? Like, his feet are so broken because of all the years of exploding and twisting and turning. And he’s been playing professionally for how long? Twenty years, which is
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Twenty one, I ai.
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That’s bananas.
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Yeah. I don’t understand
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that.
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Think about the amount of explosions he’s forced his feet to perform. Imagine moving back and forth and you weigh two hundred and fifty pounds. Like, that’s nuts.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That’s so much force.
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He’s not the same species as us. He’s something else.
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Discipline, bro. But look at those toes. That is bananas. That’s bananas. Like, his his toes just take, like, sharp turns.
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That may or may not be accurate.
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01:16:57
That might not be. Right? That other one looked better.
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That one looks pretty good.
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Meh me see that.
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That looks a little better.
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It’s a little over it, but
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Yeah. It’s a little over it. But he might be getting it. Maybe he did that on purpose. Maybe he did that for the picture just to be silly.
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This is the one
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that went
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viral a while ago. He was on the beach.
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Yeah. That’s pretty obvious. So his big toe goes under the next toe. It’s that twisted in. That’s obvious.
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It also doesn’t ai the same foot as that foot.
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01:17:21
You know, Ai Simpson was having a problem with that too because he’s got wide feet, and I told him about yoga toes. Yep. That stuff works, man. You ever use those?
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01:17:28
Mm-mm.
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They stretch your feet out. You put your toes in there and they stretch. It’s like a little rubber stopper in between each little toesy.
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I need some of that.
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And it stretches your foot out and makes it, you know, feel better. It relieves the 10 the pressure that you’re getting with narrow toed shoes where it’s squishing it in the front, fucking your feet up.
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Nice.
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But to be that tough to play basketball with that kind of a foot for twenty plus years, that’s nuts.
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Yeah. It’s taking a lot of
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To be God and to run with no knees, nuts. Nuts.
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That’s that’s what inspiration does though. You know, I think these guys just want it. They want it. They wanna keep going. They wanna keep pushing it. They wanna see what’s possible.
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01:18:08
Yeah. I was watching a fight today. One of my little chat groups that I have with Dean Thomas and Matt Sana and John Rallo. A guy was, fighting in a box it looks like a boxing match, and he has one leg. So he’s hopping around with one leg trying to fuck this guy up. So if you ever think, like, maybe, hey, let me find this. Yeah.
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You ever think, like, maybe life has been too hard on meh, maybe the barriers in front of me
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Yeah. Arya
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Insurmountable. Ai fucking doing what this ai doing. Because this is really kinda crazy. And I don’t understand what they’re doing because, they’re they’re barefoot, but they’re, not kicking. And Ai guess the guy can’t kick because he only has one leg. Maybe they agreed no kicking. But, like, why put a shoe on?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, I don’t understand why if you’re if you guys aren’t gonna kick, why don’t you have shoes on? It’s better for your grip. But this guy’s hopping around. Did you get it, Jamie? Yeah. This guy’s hopping around throwing punches with literally one leg. Look at this. Oh. How nuts is that?
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One thing you do have to think, it sucks that he only has one leg, but I bet he weighs about 40 pounds lighter that way. Oh, yeah. So, like, he’s got probably got some strong ass arya, but you can only generate so much force with one leg.
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I can’t even balance on one leg.
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I ai. His balance is insane, man. And his movements are really good too. Ai, there’s people that have two legs that don’t move that good. It’s nuts. The other dude is ai, I wish I could leg kick you. Like, that’s so not fair. You can guarantee that dude can’t kick you back.
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So explosive.
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But it’s just pretty nutty that, you know, he’s still willing to ai, and he’s hitting this guy.
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Ai mean, it’s The human will. Yeah. It’s incredible.
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It is incredible. The human mind can do very strange things if you let it keep going down a path and keep getting better and better.
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01:20:02
Yes.
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You know, you can get to a very strange place that, you know, a lot of people don’t wanna believe exists.
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01:20:08
Yeah. Just to keep expanding the possibilities. Right? Expose yourself to new things. I think that’s why, like, people in my field traditionally, like, they’re not doing psychedelics. Like, it’s not really a thing that people do.
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Why do you think that is? I would I don’t think that anybody that’s really exploring how
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to ai
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01:20:28
Actually, maybe more ai sports psychology, stuff like that, because they’re more clinical. They’re more clinical people. You know? They’re doctors. They’re Yeah. Their people are much more clinical and methodical about things. But for me, like, my full ego death through the BUFFO toad was fundamentally the most important part of me learning to do what I do. Because Yeah.
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In that experience, it created enough space between me and all my beliefs. You know? It’s that, like, that neuroplasticity that gets created in those moments afterwards where you can actually kinda see things. You can kinda see the the forest from the trees. If you never have the experience, then like, this is something people talk about all the time, right, is the whole thing, the ego is the enemy.
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01:21:06
Mhmm.
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01:21:06
It’s ai, well, it depends what you’re considering the ego because you can’t get rid of the ego. If the ego dies, then you’re just in the oneness. Right? So you need the ego. We have to build it up. And I think for fighters especially, like, they need massive egos, but they need healthy egos.
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01:21:21
Egos that are programmed ram succeed.
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01:21:24
Yeah. No ego is not attainable. If you’re a human being, you’re gonna have an ego. You just have to figure out how to manage it and don’t let it burn your house down. You know, it’s like that custom auto quote about fear. Fear is like fire. You can cook your food with it or if it gets out of control, it’ll burn your house down. Yeah.
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I think that’s the case with, many many things, including psychedelics, by the way. I think there’s a lot of people that burn their house down.
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01:21:49
Yeah.
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01:21:49
I think there’s a lot of people that go really far and they lose their grip on reality. And reality gets real slippery, then they sort of try to redefine reality to fit their own narrative, and they seem schizophrenic.
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Yeah.
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I’ve seen that from multiple people that have taken too many psychedelics.
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I mean,
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they’re just abusing it. You gotta use like a tool. Well,
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yeah. But it’s also everybody has their own specific way that they interact with the world. And if you’re taking psychedelics to justify your specific way of interacting with the world Yeah. And then you start indoctrinating other people to your specific way of running the world.
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And you try to, like, have a branch off civilization, like, vatsal, like, this thing that happens to guys in particular. You don’t see a lot of, like, female guru, psychedelic ladies, you know, or they they arya more ai mother figures, but not ai gurus. The gurus are all dudes
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01:22:49
Mhmm.
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01:22:49
And it almost always Facts. It’s always just a couple of boys down to pussy. Almost Yeah. Always or or, dick, depending on what you’re into. Yeah. Because the guy out here in, Texas, in Austin was, there was a there’s a building that Ron White loved called the 1 World Theater that we were actually in contract under contract for before I wound up buying the mothership.
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01:23:12
And that place was run by ai cult. And this guy was a gay guy. He was a gay porn star and a hypnotist.
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There you go. That’s a deadly combo right there.
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01:23:22
Who was teaching yoga to folks in West Hollywood and slowly but surely formed a cult. And then after Waco remember the Waco thing went down? Everybody panicked and the Cult Awareness Network apparently was, like, looking for him and looking into him because, like, a lot of the family was, like, my we lost my sana.
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01:23:39
He went to that so then he decided to change his name, and then he moved to Austin. And, he had his followers build him a theater so he could dance in front of them, and that’s here. And, it was it’s there’s a crazy documentary called Holy Hell. But this ai, this is what’s crazy.
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01:23:57
The people that hated him at the end of the documentary, the people that said that he was a a giant scammer and he was a piece of shit and they wish they had never met him, they all said they had gone through this thing called the knowing. And the knowing was, like, he would withhold it from them and they a lot of them are, like, really upset. They weren’t getting the knowing.
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01:24:17
And it was this thing that he would do where he’d make them I think they were on their knees, and he would touch their face and tell them that it was gonna happen. And they would all say the same thing. They would all say afterwards, it was one of the most beautiful the most beautiful experience of their ai, that they felt a complete total connection with God, and it changed their world view and their perception forever.
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01:24:38
Like, it’s available in your mind if you believe, if you truly believe. And they truly believe that this guy was, like, a legitimate mystic. That he was a legitimate guru. And because they believe that, even though this ai sai gay porn star and a hypnotist and a fucking ai, because they believe that when he put his hands on them, they felt it.
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Mhmm.
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01:25:00
So what a complicated relationship. You have this guy who, one of the guys left the cult and he’s like, hey, meh, this guy’s been hypnotizing me and fucking me for ten years. And then everybody was like, me too. It got crazy, and then they all wound up leaving. But he also did this thing for them Yeah.
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Where he connected them to God Yes. Which is really nuts, meh. Because you would think, fuck that guy. That guy sucked. I can’t believe it.
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But they’re all ai, but there was this one day. And this one there’s almost ai a part of the little cosmic joke of life. Yes.
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01:25:37
Is that
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A cosmic joke.
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This fucking weirdo possesses the ability to literally connect you with God, but he behaves like a demon. He’s just Yes. Butt fucking dudes and just taking all their money, and it’s just madness. But what he’s able to do when he touches you is real. Yeah. What a cosmic joke, if that’s true.
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01:25:58
You know, there’s all those, like, Indian gurus. Right? Where, like, people tyler the stories of, like, all they have to do is, like, gaze on me or touch me. I’ve never experienced any of this, and then you just feel ai you’ve had experience with God.
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01:26:09
Yeah. I believe it. I believe if you believe it. That’s what I think. I think there are guys that are living a very different ai. Just like, you know, we’re talking about, like, someone who could get to this David Goggins level of discipline and physical will. I think there’s guys like that with meh.
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01:26:24
Sana and I think there’s guys who get so far out there. And if you recognize that they’re so far out there, I bet you sync up with the way they’re seeing the world. You let them think for you, and you believe in them, and then they do something to you. They put their hands on you or whatever they under, you believe it’s going to happen and then your mind allows it to happen. Yeah.
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01:26:45
I think we have access to a bunch of different states of consciousness. We just don’t know the tools to to access it. We don’t know the code to ram, to open them. And for some people, it’s a near death experience, which is, like, seems to be a chemical reaction. It’s ai a an undeniable reaction that people have when they come back from the dead. For other people, it’s not.
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01:27:07
For other people, like, sometimes it’s some sort of a life changing revelation. For some people, it’s ai it’s falling in love or having a ai, or there’s something that happens that, like, rewires the way they see the world. And whatever those states are that are inside of us, I can’t imagine why there’s not courses at major universities studying how to access this stuff, studying how to achieve endogenous states
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01:27:40
Yes.
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01:27:40
Of psychedelic experiences. Like, they they like James Nestor’s book when he talks about holotropic breathing and all his different Do you
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01:27:48
ever do that? Any of the holotropic?
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01:27:49
I’ve done a bunch of it. Yeah. I’ve had, like, legit trips from breathing. Yeah. I guide
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01:27:53
some ai, some of my clients, like, they leave their body. You know, they have experiences, like, leaving their body.
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01:27:58
It feels very weird. You can get it, especially when you do it, I like to do, breathing exercises in a tank.
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01:28:06
In a flow tank?
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01:28:06
In the yeah. You do it in a flow tank. Oh, it’s cool. Because the flow tank itself is a psychedelic experience. Totally natural. It’s the best one because you there’s no side effects and you can just open the door and it’s over. Anytime you’re freaking out, like, I can’t take it.
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01:28:21
Open the door.
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01:28:21
Yeah. And then next time, sai in a little longer and then settle in. Mhmm. But doing breathing exercises in there, I mean, you might as well be taking mushrooms. You can you can get some bizarre experiences doing that.
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01:28:33
Yeah. So we talked to, like, how do we get people on this path? I think it’s these types of experiences that, like, open a doorway. It’s like a hard reset. I think, actually, for most people, they should not do psychedelics. Most people? People who are, like, in a really dark state.
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01:28:47
Do you think most people are in a dark oh,
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01:28:48
okay. No. No. No. Most people who are in a very dark state, they’re stuck struggling with really bad depression. I don’t think they should go right to psychedelics. I mean, there’s steps before that. I think they can do Right. Autotopic breathing, flow tanks. There’s different
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01:28:59
Just get healthy first too. Yeah. Yeah. You know, take some steps.
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01:29:02
But, like, there’s things
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01:29:03
you can You know one of the things that’s a really good thing to tell people to do? Find a fun physical hobby. Something you can get good at. Whatever it is. Whether it’s fucking pickleball or whatever it is. Yeah. Find a fun physical hobby that forces you to do a little bit of activity.
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01:29:17
You know, it doesn’t have to be super strenuous, but something that you actually like
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01:29:22
doing social even better.
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01:29:23
You get moving. You get moving. And then there’s also the thing about getting good at something that for whatever reason, like, really helps people. I’ll give you if you really focus on getting good at something, that thing becomes the puzzle instead of just, like, dealing with all the anxiety of ai, then that becomes your focus.
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01:29:39
Your focus becomes getting good at this thing.
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01:29:41
Humans need something to pour their energy into.
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01:29:43
100%. And then if you don’t have that, you feel lost. And that’s a lot of people in this world. And that’s the problem with just having a regular job, which also saps you of your energy, you know?
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01:29:54
Absolutely. It could be something very simple, you know. But just find something that you just wanna move on a path. Just get on a path. And that just incremental progress feels good.
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01:30:05
And the best thing is physical. Anything anything that you can do that that’s why jiu jitsu is so awesome. It’s because you you could find that you find the physical struggle, but also this incredible mental puzzle that you’re figuring out every day. And then also you’re dealing with all these anxieties and emotions and these weird feelings ai, fuck, I don’t wanna roll with him. Oh, goddamn it. He’s gonna get me.
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01:30:25
And you’re rolling with people that you gotta learn how to relax. You gotta learn and they’re like, ai, my God. He didn’t tap me this this session. Ai, maybe you got dominated, but at least you didn’t tap. And then next ai, maybe you, reverse someone. Maybe you, sweep someone that you never swept before.
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01:30:39
Ram mean, and you’re just ai, oh, my God. I’m getting better at this. And you you you’ve got this puzzle, and then you’ve also got this extreme physical activity where the rest of the day seems so easy. It seems sai, like, so relaxing. Yeah.
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01:30:53
No matter what happens, you’re so calm because you’ve been getting your fucking legs yanked on and your neck yanked on and fucking take it down and ai control crushed and getting arm ai. And this is easy. Like, no matter what you experience outside of that, your bar for what sucks is, like, your thing you do the most that sucks so hard is what you love Yeah.
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01:31:16
Which is nuts. So it cures you in a lot of ways. And it’s I think it’s the remedy for young men.
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01:31:22
Yeah.
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01:31:22
There’s a lot of men that just and it’s filled with nerds. You need to know that too. Like Yeah. That it’s not meatheads. You think it’s meatheads. It’s mostly not. And mostly it’s ai really intelligent people that excel at this physical puzzle. And then through that thing, they develop all this confidence and become ai much cooler people, much more interesting to hang out with.
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01:31:44
Ai, all my friends that are like black belts in Jiu Jitsu, they’re all interesting. They’re all cool to talk to. Like, if I can talk to a guy and they tell me they’re a black belt in Jiu Jitsu, I’m like, oh, okay. You’ve gone through the whole thing. Like, you’ve gone through some shah. Like, okay. I guarantee you and I can find common ground. Like, we could talk.
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01:32:01
Yeah.
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It’s ai, there’s things that are out there that are available to you that are a vehicle for developing your human potential. That’s what I was taught when I was, a kid and I was learning Taekwondo. That’s how they described it. It’s a I never forgot that. A vehicle for developing your human potential.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, that’s perfect. Because I think you don’t just do it from thinking about stuff and in thinking different. I think you need physical stuff that you do, and the best physical stuff is scary stuff.
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01:32:30
Yeah. Ai of passage.
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01:32:31
Yeah. You know,
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01:32:32
we don’t have many ai of passages.
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01:32:33
Yeah.
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01:32:33
And doing any type of martial arts and having to compete is ai, oh, this is scary. Yeah. It’s building. It’s building. It’s building. What’s gonna happen? And you kinda have to fee you have to face that fear of death in a way. It’s like, you know you’re not gonna die, but in a way, it feels like it when you’re going to competition.
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01:32:47
It’s ai, this person is gonna try to hurt me. Yeah. And to come through that and get to the other side, there’s something that changes in your nervous system.
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01:32:54
For sure. You’ve you’ve actually experienced something that very few people ever experienced. And it’s it’s very different than a street fight because you’re agreeing to it, and you’re training for it. You’ve got this other person who’s ai training, you know, they’re scary as shit and they’re on the other side of the cage and then you step in and the two of you arya about to go to war.
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01:33:12
It’s the nuttiest job in the history of the world. It really is. Other than war and being a firefighter or a cop, it is the nuttiest job in the history of the world. You’re agreeing to throw bones at each other in front of the world, millions of people. Yeah.
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01:33:26
People love it.
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01:33:27
And today, they just announced UFC just signed some crazy deal with Paramount Plus.
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01:33:31
I saw that.
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01:33:32
There’s There’s gonna be no more pay per views. All the events are gonna be available for everybody for free. Every pay per view, every fight card that they have from the Apex, which are my favorite.
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01:33:44
Yeah.
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01:33:45
Everything is gonna be available for free. It’s an amazing deal.
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01:33:47
I think it’s gonna explode the sport even
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01:33:49
though ai god. For through the roof. And it’s a super smart move for Paramount.
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01:33:53
Yeah.
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01:33:54
What a great move to not just have the UFC for seven years, but have it for free. Like, I don’t think Paramount cost, but what? How much does it cost a month?
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01:34:05
It’s like 8 or $10, I think.
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01:34:06
$10. So if it’s 10 let’s say it’s $10. That’s crazy. That’s a $120 a year. You could watch every UFC pay per view. Two UFC pay per views is, like, a $140. Right? Isn’t it? I think, like, $70.
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01:34:19
Bucks. Yeah.
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01:34:20
So you get all of them? Everything’s free? That’s incredible. Because this is the sport is gonna go fucking ai.
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01:34:26
Because the average person only knows about the stars. You know what I mean? But they’re kinda detached because they’re only watching highlights. Now they get to actually watch about the stars. They’re gonna be so much more bought into the sport.
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01:34:35
Yeah. That’s gonna be nuts. And it’ll be it’s sai such a smart move for Paramount because you have a built in audience that’s immediately gonna jump over there. Because everybody you have to renew your ESPN subscription anywhere, you know. Like, you have to renew it. So it’s just buy a Paramount subscription.
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01:34:52
Yeah. Absolutely.
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01:34:52
By the way, you ESPN has everything too. It’s great. I’m kinda bummed out, and I hope they don’t lose the relationship that they had with ESPN with all their MMA shows. I hope they don’t go, like, fuck them. They went to Paramount. I hope it’s, like, a mutually beneficial thing, like, the UFC at least does some content still on ESPN.
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01:35:09
Because I think that’s also a big factor in pulling people from, like, casual viewers that watch other sports that might occasionally watch a UFC ai. And then they see, like, Dustin Poirier versus Max Holloway, and they’re, like, holy shit. And then they’re hooked. Right? It’s like having that coverage on SportsCenter, that shit’s huge.
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01:35:29
Having those post fight shows on ESPN plus, that shit is huge. For the real dorks like me, that’s huge.
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01:35:37
Yeah. I think even for, like, the average person that cares more about storytelling, you know. Yeah. It’s, like, maybe the wives are, like, this is interesting to hear about the drama of their life a little bit and the hero’s journey.
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01:35:46
Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Well, it’s unbelievably compelling when you watch two world class fighters fight in a world championship fight. Yeah. Unbelievably compelling, you know. Like, when you watch Sugar Shah O’Malley try to get the title back from Rob, that was so compelling. Yeah. Sugar Sean changes his whole life.
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01:36:06
Did you talk with him at all?
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01:36:07
I haven’t. I’m very curious. I would love to talk with him because I know he cut out weed. Right? And he
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01:36:12
Cut out weed, stop jerking off, I believe, and bryden all social media
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01:36:16
Yeah.
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01:36:17
Which is very fascinating. I might be wrong about the jerking off. I think I might’ve added that in there. But he recognized that this guy’s a a motherfucker. He’s a completely different thing. Like, Marab is like a David Goggins in that respect that he’s so far down the path of pushing himself
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01:36:37
Yeah.
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01:36:37
That it’s almost like you’re never gonna catch him in that game. You know? Like, six months of not jerking off and staying off TikTok, I don’t think that’s even close to enough. I think what he’s been doing has been really insane for a long time. Everybody that I ai to that’s trained with that guy sai he’s fucking superhuman with his cardio, And his work ethic is through the roof, man.
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01:37:05
When DC went to see him the day after he won the the title, he was out running. DC went to his house. Sicko. And he’s film DC’s filming his his his garage is that his garage gym meh up. He’s ai, this motherfucker is out running.
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01:37:17
He’s out running the day after winning the world title in a spectacular five round performance where he shows superhuman cardio, like, superhuman pressure. There’s a few guys like that.
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01:37:30
Yeah. It’s it’s fascinating to look at just that level, the elite, elite, elite, elite level Mhmm. And to see the commonalities between them. For ram, as someone who loves studying the ai, and it’s like, what is different about these guys? And then is there anything you could do to catch up, or are they just built different? Are they just wired in a way?
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01:37:49
Did you see the Anthony Hernandez, Roman delete ai fight this weekend? No. Bro. You gotta see that fight. You have to see that fight. Anthony Hernandez is a fucking problem. He’s a fucking real problem. He doesn’t get tired, man. He pushes an insane pace and he doesn’t get tired. He melts dudes.
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01:38:09
He just melts them. You know, he does stuff where you just go ai, what how are you pushing this kind of pace? It’s like a middleweight version. Someone said it in the the, comments too that Marab was in Roman’s corner because they’re both from Georgia. And he’s ai, and Marab is in the corner ai Roman fights the middleweight version of Marab because it really was like that. Fluffy Hernandez is wild, dude.
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01:38:32
It’s ai whatever he’s doing in his training or whether he just has a a a ai, some people like Cain Velasquez had a natural cardio gift. I don’t know what it is, but it’s insane. He submitted Rodolfo Vieira. Multiple time world jiu jitsu jumps. Just exhausted the fuck out of him and guillotined him, which is just nuts to watch that guy tap. Do you know who he is?
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01:38:54
Mm-mm. No. I know boxing way more than UFC. So
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01:38:57
Vieira is built like a superhero. Like, he doesn’t even look like a real human. He he looks like a cartoonish, like, CGI version of what an elite MMA athlete looks ai. Just chiseled. And Fluffy doesn’t look like that. Covered in tattoos. You know, it looks athletic. You know, looks tough, but Rodolfo Vieira is a that’s him.
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01:39:18
Oh, yeah.
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01:39:19
Buh roe. I mean, good. You know those photos of, like, what your girlfriend tells you not to worry about?
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01:39:27
Yeah.
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01:39:27
Meh with that one where he’s got his sleeves down and ai his elbows in the lower yeah. That one right there. Bro. Yeah. What are you talking about? And I don’t think Fluffy was even a black belt. I think Fluffy was a brown belt at the time. I wanna be correct about that. He’s a black belt now. Right? Anthony Hernandez, MMA. I think he’s a black belt.
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01:39:48
But to submit that guy was just one of the like, if you had a if you had a bet in Vegas, you know, ai, if you were on ram sport DraftKings sportsbook and you bet Fluffy Hernandez to submit Rodolfo Vieira, you would You
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01:40:04
made a
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01:40:05
lot of money.
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01:40:05
Like, 25 to one odds. Brown belt. He’s still a brown belt. He’s still a brown belt in jujitsu. He submitted a multiple time world champion just by melting him. Just melting him. I’d love for you to talk to that guy. Find out what the fuck he’s made out of.
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01:40:21
Love to. Love to. Hit me up, bro.
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01:40:23
He’s different, man. There’s certain dudes that are just different, you know, like what Goggins likes to call uncommon amongst uncommon men. That dude’s uncommon. If I was a middleweight, I’d be, like, closely watching that ai, like, Jesus Christ. Because he’s also, like, every fight he keeps getting better.
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01:40:40
And it’s just a storm that starts from the first minute of the first round and never stops. You never get to break. There’s no breaths. He’s constantly on you. He takes a great shot. 52 takedowns, eight fight win streak, six finishes. Bro, that guy.
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01:40:58
There’s there’s guys that just emerge from groups of, like, super talented contenders where you just go, holy shit. And that’s one of them.
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01:41:07
That’s awesome. Yeah. I’ve been looking for ram. I
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01:41:09
gotta go
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01:41:10
back and watch the fight.
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01:41:10
So for a guy like you that’s, like, a mental coach, I always, like, wonder. Sai I’d like to to, like, talk to that ai, and maybe you can pass some of that on to everybody else. Like Yeah. How what is he doing? Yeah. How is he is he just training harder than everybody else? Is he just is it his mindset?
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01:41:26
Is he just a dog and just just does not give a fuck? Because it seems like there’s a lot of that there too. Yeah. He’s just mentally super strong and super aggressive.
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01:41:36
That’s what I love to do. I give these guys these prompts, and I just audit and I pull out all their beliefs. And it’s super interesting to hear what beliefs create an elite performer and just hearing all the ones that are making them successful and all the ones that are causing them problems.
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01:41:52
Wanna hear what’s really crazy?
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01:41:53
Dude smokes a ton of weed. Ton of weed. Like, Sugar Sean and Malorie’s like, I’m gonna quit the weed. This dude’s like, give me all your weed.
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01:42:02
When I was when I was doing a lot of boxing, I would I was smoking a ton of weed. I was smoking weed every single day, and I don’t anymore. But at the time, I was like, you know, I had to get surgery on my nose because I ai busted up so many times.
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Yeah. I got that surgery. Yeah. Oh my ai. Isn’t it nice when you get it done, though? Ai fell down a flight of stairs when I was five. So I’ve never had a good nose. My nose has been fucked since I was a little kid, so I never could breathe out of my nose. And then years of getting punched and kicked and getting head butted and cracked with glasses.
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01:42:31
I had it I was going to the doctor because I was still sparring during COVID. And I was going to the doctor, and they were just telling me, oh, I think you have COVID. That’s what they told me. They’re like, oh, I think you just have stuffiness. We’re gonna have you tested from COVID, like, two different times.
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01:42:44
And eventually, I just got x rays, and I’m like, oh, your nose is destroyed. Yeah. But I ai It
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01:42:49
happens like an ear. Right? You know, ears get cauliflower.
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01:42:52
Uh-huh.
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01:42:52
You get that same kind of buildup of calcium deposits inside your nose.
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01:42:56
It off.
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01:42:57
They have to carve it out. Yeah. Ever sai what it looks like when they get the chunks and they lay it out for you after they take it out?
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01:43:02
They took a piece from my ear. It took the ear cartilage.
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01:43:05
To rebuild your nose?
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01:43:06
The funniest thing is so I speak a lot of time in Colombia, and I went down there for the surgery. And, You went to Colombia
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01:43:13
for Yes. Ear to nose surgery?
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01:43:15
Oh,
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01:43:15
I do everything. All my stuff in I got LASIK eye surgery in Colombia.
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01:43:18
Jesus, bro.
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01:43:19
They invented it in Bogota, Colombia.
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01:43:21
Did they really?
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01:43:21
They did.
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01:43:22
No shit.
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01:43:23
Yeah. Meh stuff’s amazing. Honestly, like, this is gonna sound funny, but when I go there, it almost makes The US feel like a third world country
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01:43:31
That’s crazy.
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01:43:32
Just because it’s so inexpensive. The doctors are good. The facility’s great anyhow. So I go get the surgery. I come out of it. I’m missing the back of my ear. They I didn’t understand that part.
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01:43:41
Why didn’t they do the rib? Usually, they do the rib cartilage.
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01:43:43
They said they might do the rib, but I don’t remember.
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01:43:46
Ai and went with your ear?
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01:43:47
I guess they do.
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01:43:48
What would your ear look like now?
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01:43:49
I’m gonna show it to you.
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01:43:50
Show me. Okay. You got a missing chunk, son.
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01:43:54
Woah. Yeah. Yeah. Now it’s it lays kinda flat.
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01:43:58
Oh, that’s crazy. Not that bad.
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01:43:59
Not bad. Not bad.
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01:44:01
But you don’t grapple, so you don’t have cauliflower. That would get weird because the the there would be no structure. So it’d, like, super droop like a like a like a Labrador.
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01:44:09
What do
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you think? I haven’t gotten into jiu jitsu just because I was told by some of my friends that, like, I would I could re speak my nose just by the pressure of people, like, leaning on it all the time. I just don’t wanna get the surgery again.
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01:44:19
When I got my surgery, I was addicted, fully addicted to jiu jitsu. So I waited six weeks, and I started rolling again.
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01:44:24
And how’s your nose been?
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01:44:26
It’s ai. But I protected it, and I told everybody that I was rolling with him, and I just got no surgery. So please don’t, like, cross face me if you’re trying to get a rear naked choke or something like that. You know, like, there’s certain guys that are real meh, and they get they get your back, and they’ll fucking do
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01:44:40
this with your
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01:44:40
nose to get you to lift your chin up. They’ll they’ll go forearm blade right into the nose, which I understand for competition. But for the gym, the problem is, like, you could really break a guy’s nose and then fuck him up for the the rest of his life until he gets it fixed.
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01:44:54
What about now when you train? Like, is it is it a concern?
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01:44:56
Well, I haven’t been training in a long time. I haven’t been training in over a year. No no rolling at all in over a year. But it’s not a concern. It works great. It’s fine. If I got it broken and it was a problem, Ai definitely 100% get it fixed again. The benefits of being able to breathe out of your nose, and I’ve I’ve talked to a ton of fighters about this.
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01:45:13
Some of them are like, I’ll wait till after I’m done ai. But Drakos du Plessis, who’s defending his title this weekend, Drakus, he, started his career with a fucked up nose in the UFC, and it really affected his cardio. His mouth was wide open. He got it fixed, and there was, like, this immediate bump in performance. Ai I mean, immediate.
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01:45:30
For sure, he was getting better along the way and, for sure, he was, you know, figuring out how to tightening up tighten up his techniques and he’s just an animal. Right? But on top of that, having that nose fixed was a significant difference. He didn’t have to have his mouth open all the time.
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01:45:45
That’s the ideal way to breathe if you can just breathe through your nose. Right?
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01:45:48
It it limits your cardio in a significant way. I noticed, like, a 10% bump in cardio is what it felt like to me. Like, I could feel the difference in being able to breathe out of my nose. Yeah. And also to be able to bite down on your mouthpiece, like, if you’re really clamping down on something and you could still breathe perfectly. That was huge. Yeah.
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01:46:05
Because before Yeah. Because like
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01:46:07
a dog skin.
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01:46:08
Squeeze while your mouth is open. That’s terrible. Like, you if you wanna squeeze on something, you sana be like this. You wanna feel like fucking Mhmm. And you can’t you can’t bite down. I wonder how they they’ve done studies on that. Right? Like, people lifting stuff with, like, certain mouthpieces in and certain mouthpieces actually increase their strength.
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01:46:26
Power lifters use them. Right?
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01:46:28
Yeah. I think they do it for sure also to not break your teeth. Because, I went to a dentist once and the dentist was like, ai know, like, micro fractures on all your teeth. You know, like, do you do you lift weights? And I go, yeah. He goes like, you’re clenching your teeth Do you? All the time. Oh, yeah. So Ai growling.
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01:46:43
I stopped doing that so meh, and I I definitely started I worked out with a mouthpiece for a long time, like, lifting, but I think there’s a certain mouthpiece that they designed that sets your jaw in a certain way that it actually enhances your strength. There’s, like, some sort of a connection between, like, having your jaw perfectly aligned and clamping down on this mouthpiece that allows you to actually lift more weight.
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01:47:05
Ai out if that’s true. Because I know that that was definitely a marketing claim for this mouthpiece thing, but I just don’t remember much of it. But I remember, like, looking into it years ago. It was like a weird mouthpiece with, like, the bottom had, like, a hole cut into it so you could I think I’ve
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01:47:21
heard something about that. Ai know grunting is supposed to help you lift more weights.
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01:47:24
That makes sense. That’s why they keep it out of that elite fitness place to get mad at you.
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01:47:27
Yeah.
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Because that’s what no. Planet Fitness.
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01:47:29
Planet Fitness. Yeah. I did see a study because I was looking at
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01:47:31
all
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01:47:32
these ai, increased strength performance. You know, when I was studying all this stuff, and I was like, grunting.
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01:47:36
That’s so crazy that if you if you lift weights, they’re too loud, they sound an alarm and they kick you out.
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01:47:42
It ai called back.
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01:47:43
Too hard. The lunk alarm.
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01:47:44
The lunk alarm. That’s funny. It’s safe for those people who wanna be there. It’s a nice safe environment.
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01:47:50
Yeah. I get it. But, also, don’t you wanna be inspired by someone who’s working out really hard? Like, if I go to the gym and there’s a guy there, like, woah. That guy’s there.
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01:47:58
Of course.
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And you watch that guy do some crazy routine, like, as long as he’s ai. Like, what do you care if he’s grunting?
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01:48:04
But that’s ai society. Right? We got the the padded walls in many places for people.
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01:48:09
Yeah. I guess it intimidates people. It scares them. And then maybe people what is this, Jamie? Mouthpiece? The airway? Mouthpiece. Yeah. That’s it.
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01:48:16
I don’t know if it’s proven.
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01:48:18
Yeah. I don’t know if it’s proven either. But is this, official mouthpiece the world’s strongest man? It’s patented. Boosting muscular force and power. It’s patented. So how does it work? Does it say how it works?
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01:48:31
No. I was looking. I didn’t see any
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01:48:35
this is I don’t know. It’s what it says.
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01:48:37
Thing is, if you believe it works, it probably works. Yeah.
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01:48:40
I don’t
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know how many
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01:48:41
Ai to absorb clenching while guiding optimal tongue positioning during ai stress exertion. I don’t know. But being able to breathe out your nose is giant, kids. Sai if you don’t have that if you’ve got that problem, get it fixed.
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01:48:58
What do you
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think about If
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01:48:59
you can.
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01:49:00
Weed and fighting? Because I’m gonna ask you a couple different questions. Okay. When I was living in LA, I knew this neuroscientist, and we ran, like, a little fun study where Ai was a big stoner. So he had me stop smoking weed for two weeks, I think it was. He tested me did all these brain tests with meh, and then he tested me two weeks afterwards. And I ai football. I box. Right?
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01:49:21
So a lot of hits to the head. Right. And he said that without weed, he showed, like it showed that I had a a fair amount of, like, brain damage. Like, my brain wasn’t functioning how it would. When I smoked weed, went back in there. You said there was some kind of, like, neuroprotective effect where, like, I was my brain was, like, registering as more healthy.
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01:49:41
Well, isn’t part of the problem with CTE and any kind of, bryden issue in general? Part of the problem is inflammation. Right? Yeah. Isn’t it? That’s one of the things that they sai, like, changing your gut bacteria has an effect on mood. You You know, there are a lot of people that have, like, real gut problems.
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01:49:59
Weed decreases inflammation
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01:50:00
in the brain. Yeah. It’s well, weed certainly increases, decreases rather inflammation, and that’s why people use it for pain management. People with sore backs and yeah, people going through chemotherapy. It also improves your appetite for people going through chemo because it’s hard for them to eat.
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01:50:18
But weed, most certainly can help with pain management with some kinds of pain. I know some people that have tried it for, like, debilitating pain, and it just doesn’t do a damn thing. It just makes them almost more aware of it. Yeah. But it’s variable, man. Because I was just, Jamie, who’s the guy who killed Bin Laden? You know, that Navy Speak guy who killed Bin Laden?
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01:50:40
He’s on, yeah, he’s on Instagram. O’Neil? Right. But but let’s say his full name out of respect. I
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01:50:50
believe it’s Robert.
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01:50:51
Well, how about look it up? He’ll believe. And find his Instagram because he he has something to do with the cannabis business. And, like, this guy is just super badass tip of the spear speak forces operator. Right? And there it is, Robert O’Neil. Go to his, see if you can find his Instagram.
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01:51:15
It’s what
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01:51:15
does it say? He’s helped that’s him. It says, set to pedal pot in New York City and said it helps get rid of the noise. He’s also an advocate for, Ibogaine. He’s done Ibogaine, ai times. But go click on go to his Instagram page, Jamie, if you could. I have it there. I ai.
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01:51:33
It’s like mister hoo you or something like that. But he said that it it helps him go to sleep at ai. Helps him relax and go to sleep at night. Like, there’s there’s scroll down. Go back to the grid and scroll down.
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01:51:48
There’s a There’s him in an actual, pot farm, ai, his own pot farm in there, like, where they grow all the stuff that he, he sells.
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01:51:57
That makes sense because it has that dissociative effect. Right? Right. And so it’s easier maybe to get out of your head.
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01:52:04
But it flies in the face of this very, public narrative, the which is pot is for lazy people, pot is for losers, pot’s gonna rot your bryden, pot’s gonna make you stink, pot’s gonna make you an idiot. Can’t find it?
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01:52:18
That’s not ai Yeah. Ai
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don’t know where it is.
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01:52:21
Company’s thing. I’ll find it a second.
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01:52:22
Maybe that’s the far right one with his hands outstretched like Jesus, that’s the one him talking about Ai, and I looked at that. Mikuya on, Instagram. With a guy like that smoking weed, you you meh you gotta throw it out the window. Ai your preconceived it’s like everybody is biologically different.
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01:52:43
And for some people, alcohol just fucks them up. Yeah. For some people, marijuana is a no go. It’s not good. They freak out.
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01:52:51
But for some people
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01:52:52
When you’re a dog, you know, like, we’re dogs. We like to get after it. We like to work out. We like to do things. Like, I almost like when I was smoking weed every day to be the guy who could be super fit, to be training boxing every day and, like
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01:53:03
And still be achieving
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01:53:04
my business and smoke weed every day. Like, I kinda took this, like, weird pride in it for some time as well of, like
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01:53:09
Bro, one of my favorite things to do was to smoke weed and hit the bag.
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01:53:12
Oh, you still So meditative.
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01:53:14
Yeah, man. Well, you also
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01:53:15
Form goes out the window a little bit.
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01:53:17
No. It doesn’t. For me, it’s the opposite. For me, I feel everything. Like, for me, I feel Maybe I’m
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01:53:23
just judging myself.
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01:53:24
The timing more when I’m hitting things. Like, Ai feel it feels more coordinated. Like, when I’m throwing a kick, it just whoop. Ai, I feel the the the time to, like, accelerate, the time to get the hips into it vatsal. I’m more sensitive. It feels better. Like, you you you tune into it. It makes my pool game 100 better.
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01:53:44
Really?
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01:53:45
Oh, 100%. It’s it’s like steroids for pool. But I also hear you on
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01:53:49
the podcast when you’ve done it before, like, you stay dialed in to a degree. Like, maybe you don’t have the same recall.
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01:53:54
That’s right. But that’s that’s the point that it Yeah. That I was making earlier. It’s different for everybody. It’s not, like, I am different than other people. There’s there’s people that don’t think the way I think. They don’t they don’t have a life experiences that I have.
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01:54:04
They don’t have the ability to manage, like, the weirdness that comes with weed, which Yeah. The paranoia, I like. Yeah. I genuinely like.
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01:54:12
You kinda need do you like that voice just kinda question you a little bit? Like, don’t don’t get too big for your britches.
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01:54:17
Yes.
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01:54:18
Yeah. I like it. I like being scared. I think it’s good for you. Yes. As long as you use it ai, like, you take that weirdness, like, oh, maybe I should go give him a call and explain myself better. Maybe I should reach out. Maybe I should do this. Maybe I should do that. Maybe I ai, like, make it easier for these people.
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01:54:36
Maybe I ai, you know, it makes meh, like, very considerate. And I think it’s a really potent tool for managing your state of mind. But that’s just for me. I don’t know how your mind works. I could would only be pretending. Right? Like, we’re all on a different mind journey too. Right?
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01:54:56
If you’re a person who was beaten by their parents and you were fucking mugged and then this happened to you and that happened to you and you got fucked over at work and it and then here you are there, like, that’s very different than a person who’s had a lot of, like, success and been real lucky and got to a point Yeah.
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01:55:14
And has a healthy mind ai.
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01:55:15
Maybe it’s more nostalgic. You ai smoke what you’re thinking about. You know, it gives you time to separate a little bit from being in the grind versus
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01:55:22
Well, my point is, like, if you’re all fucked up, maybe pot’s not for you. Yeah. Right? If you’re a real mess and you’re, like, barely hanging on, like, to regular life, maybe freaking yourself out with a potent THC is not the way to go.
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01:55:35
Especially these days.
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01:55:36
Yeah. Just what I’m getting at is, like, maybe as your journey progresses and you get healthy and you get more confident and strong and more successful, maybe then. Yes. Maybe not even then. Maybe that’s not your thing. You you have to be honest about what’s your thing. You know, you have to find and the problem with things being illegal is you don’t have that opportunity.
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01:55:55
And then you have people that had bad personal experiences with it and they’re ai, pot makes you stink, pot makes you a dummy. Maybe it does that for you. Okay? But it doesn’t do that for me. For me, it makes me nicer to my friends. It makes me wanna pet my dog. It makes me wanna chill out.
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01:56:09
It’s ai, it makes me wanna have fun with my friends. It makes me wanna laugh. It doesn’t make me stay well, ai probably makes me speak. But it doesn’t make me, any dumber. That’s for sure. And it makes me more inquisitive.
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01:56:24
It makes me more interested in, for sure, subjects that I have no understanding of that are fascinating, like cosmology. There’s nothing like getting high and watching a space documentary
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01:56:36
Mhmm.
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01:56:36
Just to try to put it into perspective, ai, what it what it is worth living in? What what is re the reality of the physical universe and its majesty that’s above your head every day? Like, that is when you’re high, you’re like, how am I not paying attention to this?
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01:56:52
This is
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01:56:52
really a crazy thing that this is probably the most profound experience that a person could ever have in their ai. It’s like being on a planet going through speak, and we completely take it for granted.
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01:57:03
Yeah. I think to a degree, it’s good to have some ai of cadence where you have something that allows you to kinda step back from yourself.
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01:57:10
Yeah. I think it’s good.
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01:57:10
It could be some mushrooms.
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01:57:12
Could be just meh, ai, breathing sai.
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01:57:15
Float tank.
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01:57:15
Yoga class. Yeah. Doing something or running. That’s Ai think that’s a lot of the high of running. You know, when people ai really exert themselves, ai, you’re just thinking about your breath. You’re just getting after it and you’re ai, six miles in and when you’re done, you’re ai, that runner’s high is 100% real.
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01:57:37
Oh, yeah.
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01:57:38
100% real. And, that’s how they’re getting it, and that’s how they’re separating themselves. And I think a person who can regularly run on a on a regular basis, ai tyler and miles and miles, that’s a special person. That’s a very unusual person. That’s a person of will, you know.
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01:57:55
A person who could just add any time, you could just tag them, let’s go run, and they can run ai that’s what Goggins and Cam Haines do to each other, these fucking psychopaths. Yeah. Cam Haines, like, calls Gog and say, hey, I’m in Vegas. Let’s go running. And so, Goggins calls out a spot check.
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01:58:10
Like, if you have a true friend, he spot checks you. Yeah. Those motherfuckers ran a marathon in the streets of Las Vegas. They ran 26 miles just
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01:58:19
Just just because.
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01:58:20
Yeah. Ai, like, a six minute mile pace. Like, bananas. Just bananas. Like, out of nowhere. Like, you didn’t know I was coming. I call you. Let’s go. Let’s go running. Let’s see what’s up. And Yeah. Two fucking complete total psychopaths running 26 miles in the Las Vegas heat.
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01:58:37
Nuts. Sick.
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01:58:38
Yeah. So there’s there’s people like that out there that are just different. And their their journey to be different has taken a long time to get to where they are right now.
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01:58:49
What what are your beliefs around because I have mine just from my experience. What are your beliefs on where they were before they were born? Do you think that this is they have something in them because of a previous life?
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01:59:00
Oh, I don’t know. That’s a good question. If if previous lives were true proven to be true, which right now they’re not, it’s ai just an idea because you can’t know. How could you know?
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01:59:11
But a lot of
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01:59:12
people and a lot of religions and a lot of different cultures have believed
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01:59:15
in reincarnation. Actually, I think, what university? Maybe University of Virginia. There’s a whole department that’s studying people who’ve had these, like, near death experiences that are going back and talking about previous lives.
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01:59:27
It’s a interesting question, But it’s there’s no there’s no evidence. Right? There’s no data.
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01:59:32
Jamie, I don’t know if you’ve seen this or heard of it.
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01:59:34
Well, I mean, even if these people have stories, unless they have stories that match up with historical facts.
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01:59:41
Yeah. Well, I think it is ai. I think it’s like you have, like, some kids who are just telling you about someone else’s life and they should not know it, but they’re like I
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01:59:49
have heard those stories. Yeah. But I don’t know if those are real because one of the problems is people bullshit. And they, you know, they they make things out to be a little bit more profound than they are, so it makes for a better story. And if you’re a true believer, maybe even juice up the results a little bit. It’s hard to know. Yeah. But I’m not opposed to the idea of a reincarnation.
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02:00:07
And I’m not opposed to the idea that some people are just speak. Because it seems like that’s real. It seems like there’s certain people that just emerge, and there’s just something about them, and it’s not necessarily just the hard work. You know, it’s not necessarily just the mindset. There’s something ai.
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02:00:24
Framework of it, of thinking about this infinite game. You know? Because then someone it’s like, well, why am I gonna do this work? Like, this sounds like a lot of work, all this self introspection. It’s ai to understand that, like, you’re playing this infinite game. Yeah. If you deal with your shit now, then your life is gonna be more peaceful and have more flow in the future.
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02:00:40
If you don’t deal with it, this is just you know, you’re just kicking the ball down the road.
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02:00:44
Yeah. Well, that’s true.
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02:00:45
At least it is true in this ai, and Sai don’t know. I feel it could be true in your next one as well.
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02:00:50
If you have a next one. I mean, that’s the thing. It’s ai, maybe it’s not as simple as that. We’re just assuming every time we wake up that we’re in the same ai line. Mhmm. But just the idea of going to sleep is really kooky. Yeah. It’s really kooky, you know.
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02:01:05
You just you ai to close your eyes every night and you just disconnect from physical reality for hours at a time and it’s necessary, and we all just take it for granted.
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02:01:15
Where do we go?
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02:01:16
Oh, normal. I don’t know where we go, but I go to a lot of zombies.
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02:01:19
Do you really?
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02:01:20
Oh, yeah. I have a lot of zombie dreams. I have a lot of last night, I had a great zombie apocalypse dream.
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02:01:25
We need a a dream interpreter in here.
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Yeah. Well, I don’t think I have a whole lot of confidence in the human race keeping it together. You know, at the very best, I’m like sixty forty plus that we’re gonna figure it out. But that 40 During your
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lifetime or just Yeah.
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Ai, how maybe this week. Like, who fucking knows? It’s all dependent upon what kind of disaster takes place. You know, it’s all dependent upon, what ai of shit goes down. And when you look historically, shit has always gone down when people thought shit can never go down, and that’s us right now. And, that’s why zombie movies work.
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Yeah. And that’s why they’re making them way infiltrating into your brain.
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Yeah. I started watching twenty eight years later, Jim.
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Oh, yeah. That’ll do it.
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I shut that bitch off. I was about to go to bed. I was like it was like 08:00 at night. I’m like, let me watch this. I’m like, no. No. No. I I figured it out ten, fifteen minutes where they, I don’t wanna say what happens. I don’t wanna spoil it.
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You gotta
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watch some Barney after that.
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But right away, I was like, okay. This is one where I’m gonna have to do hours before I go to sleep because them zombie dreams.
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Even watching, like, the House of Dragon and the Game of Thrones, ai, some gruesome stuff before bed.
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Yeah. Ai, real hardcore, like, realistic violence is rough Yeah. Before you go to sleep.
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I mean, just what I know about the mind, how the subconscious works, like, it’s just obvious every time Ai go to bed, I’m like, you shouldn’t have done that.
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For sure. For sure. Here’s what’s interesting though. I can watch brutal fights and sleep like a baby. That seems weird. I wonder ai. That’s weird because that’s real violence. Right? The stuff that I’m seeing in the movies, I know is horseshit.
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Yeah. For some reason, it feels more controlled.
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I don’t know. I think I’m just used to it, honestly. I think it’s like everything else. I think, you know, there’s a lot of doctors that they’ll tell you if you they’re being honest with you that, there comes a time when people die that it doesn’t affect them the same anymore.
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Mhmm. You know, they’re so used to people dying, especially, like, emergency room doctors dealing with, like, traumatic injuries, and do you get accustomed to people dying?
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I think it’s also the idea of, like, evil, though. You know, if you’re watching something, you’re seeing evil take place versus, like, for me, when I watch MMA, I’m like, I know these guys. Like, I see I love these guys. You know? I’ve never met I’ve never worked with a guy who I don’t love.
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They all have great hearts, and, like, I feel this genuine, like, goodness.
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Mhmm.
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Like, I haven’t met that many guys. I don’t know them all. But, like, when I see it, I don’t see, like, evil.
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There’s a lot of really, really, really good guys and good women that fight in Meh, and it’s because of what we talked about before. They’ve gone through something insanely difficult. They’re a very special person. Mhmm. Even people that you don’t think are, like, great people. Like ai Shah Strickland, super controversial.
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Sean Strickland is a fucking great guy. If you get him alone, you talk to him, he’s a great guy. He’s super smart, super disciplined, saved up a ton of money. You know, I was talking the other day about, like, he’s got, like, $4,000,000 saved. Super smart, man.
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For him.
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Yeah. So he could, like, retire at any moment, live a simple life, and never work again. You know? And he’s not but he’s outrageous. You know? He’s outrageous. He says wild shah. But it’s also it’s like, what do you expect from the way that guy grew up? Like, he didn’t grow up the way you grew up.
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He’s got someone to resolve the trauma.
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A 100%.
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And Ai don’t know. This is something Ai think some fighters think about. It’s like, if I get rid of my trauma, am I gonna be weaker? You know? Do I need this
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at an edge?
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I don’t believe they do. That’s been my experience.
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Yeah. I don’t think they do either. But then again, some fighters, they go and do Ai, and they come back and they’re not Kumbaya. Yeah. They don’t wanna fight anymore. Kumbaya. They say that happened to Deontay. Deontay Wilder went and did Iowa City. Oh,
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goody. Really?
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When he
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came back, he just it’s a little too peaceful. Interesting. It’s hard to say though because Was
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that before or after the Tyson Fury fight? After.
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So that’s the problem. It’s ai Yeah. We might be drawing a force a fake correlation here because those Tyson Fury fights were fucking brutal.
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Yeah.
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They were brutal.
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I feel like speak of belief, right, he had an identity that was bulletproof, that was unbreakable. And I watch all the excuses. Yeah. Jonathan, no offense.
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Yeah. No offense. No offense. But his excuses were kinda crazy.
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Yeah. I think there’s just a meh product of, like, he believes he was unbeatable. So he had to come up with something
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Mhmm.
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To tell the story about how he lost Mhmm. For himself. It wasn’t even I don’t even think it was malicious. I think he was trying to cope with what is this reality now.
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Yeah. Well, what he was was a spectacular puncher who wasn’t a real, fluid and, movement based boxer. Right? He wasn’t a guy like Usyk. Like, Usyk is the most fluid movement based boxer the heavyweight division has seen since Muhammad Ali. Right? So what he was was what Teddy Atlas calls the eraser.
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Like, all the mistakes he made, it was one right hand and they were they were erased. That he’s the most spectacular one punch knockout artist in the history of sport, I think.
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Mhmm.
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I
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mean, his powers and not a big ai. Not in comparison. He fought Tyson Fury the first time. He told me he was two zero nine. That’s crazy. And ai him in, like, what? The eleventh round? Oh, the twelfth. Right? Dropped him in the twelfth. Yeah.
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Then, like, a minute left or something.
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But that twelfth round changed the course of the rematches because Tyson Fury realized that if he goes after Deontay and he gets him on his back foot, he doesn’t fight as well. Yeah. And so then he figured it out, and he just took it to him. And then he took it to him in the second fight ai took it to him in the third fight.
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But, yeah, it’s hard when you hear a guy like that make excuses. But you understand, you do more than anybody, the destruction of the belief system and how difficult it is for fighters to manage that.
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Yeah. But if you do the work to rebuild it afterwards, you’re stronger.
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Right. But you have to do the work. Right? And for a lot of guys, again, they don’t totally know where to start. Like, say if they have a camp and inside their camp, they have a trainer, they have the strength conditioning guy, they have, you know, different coaches for different aspects of their whatever they’re doing, whether it’s a stretch coach or a boxing coach or, you know, whatever it is.
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But they don’t have a mental guy, you know. Yeah. They don’t have someone who works with you and really make sure that your mind has the tools to manage itself out of there, and they don’t know where to start. Like, where do you if you’re a guy in your training, you know, what’s any any contender, and then he gets knocked out, and he comes back from that knockout, and you’re rebuilding him, but he’s got all these confidence issues now.
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Like, where do you even look? Like, if you like, I gotta help this guy get back on track mentally, get him back to where he was before look, he got caught. It happens. Mhmm. But he’s still an amazing boxer, and he’s just gotta recover from this, and he could still get back on the horse and still be a world champion.
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But where do they even start? You know? If they don’t know you, where do they start?
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Well, I think they start by going through the process, just feeling into it, and it’s always diving into the where you don’t wanna go. Right? It’s okay. Right. What what are the insecurities coming up now? Where are the fears coming up? Where are the doubts? Usually, we try to, like, stay in our head and escape that.
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It’s about going into it, feeling, feeling, feeling into it, and then seeing what comes up there and even, like, writing it down and just bringing it into awareness. Once you have awareness of it, then you can actually do something
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about it.
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Ai manage it.
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02:08:10
Yes.
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Yeah. So this book, how long does it take you to write it?
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Ai, six months.
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02:08:17
The success code What
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was a year, but with
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the ai
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performance playbook for eliminating mental barriers and scaling your career, relationships, and health. Yes. So did you think about, like, different approaches to, like, different kinds of occupations and different kinds of ways people are living their life and how it applies?
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02:08:36
So the first half of the book is my story. It’s kinda like Okay. I’m trying to build rapport. So I tell people, this is how I learned all this stuff. This is how it worked for me. These are my client stories. So by the end of the first part, you either are like, this guy’s full of shit or I believe you. Right? And then the playbook starts.
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02:08:51
And it it is something that anyone can use because it’s it’s simple stuff. Like, it starts with, like, grade the different areas of your life from one to 10. Right? And then we’re looking at closing the gap in each area. If you’re like, my career is at a four. I I want it to be at a 10.
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Okay. Let’s get the low hanging fruit of, like, what are some of the things you need to stop doing?
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That vodka.
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Ai. The vodka. Let’s cut that out. Right?
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Those three glasses in the morning.
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Stop. Yep. Yeah. And just going through the that auditing system of understanding, like, what’s holding you back, or needing more conscious conscientious about. And then I start getting into the training for the mind later on.
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Do this system, this, writing this stuff down and having these numbers, is this something that you invented? Is this some something you learned?
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Yeah. Something I invented.
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Yeah. Yeah. So you just how did you come to that conclusion that that’s how you should do it? Works. Yeah. Disc works. Works for you, works for ai.
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For clients. Yeah.
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Yeah. So when you first started doing it, was it sort of ai, who? What’s the best way to mentally manage this situation for this person?
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Just trying to solve their problems. That’s all I’m trying to do. Just being really creative with my problem solving. And so over the years, I just picked up better tools. I’ve gotten better at practicing things to be able to solve problems better. I wanted to be full time at this at 22 years old. It wasn’t gonna happen. I just didn’t have the experience. I didn’t have enough tools.
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That’s so young to wanna help other people. You know? Like, most people at 22 are trying to help themselves.
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Yeah. It just it worked for me so much. It transformed my life so much that I was ai, well, this is what I’m supposed to do. Sana wanna help other people with this.
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Interesting. So how did it transform your life? Like, what were the big benefits?
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02:10:28
Where do I begin? I would say it started just with coming back the next season and playing football. I went from riding the bench to becoming a starter to being one of the best players on our team. So it helped me with football first. I was like, alright. Cool. That helped. Then I started to get actually confidence from being able to help other people, which I didn’t have before.
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02:10:47
It was never something because football, I was like, okay. I wasn’t great at it. But once I learned the skill, I actually started to build confidence and just tyler to manage my own state, my anxiety, my performance anxiety, and just starting to feel confident. So for the first ten years or so ai knowing about this play, first more ai nine years, I was mostly using more elementary meditation techniques, some hypnosis, some NLP.
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02:11:12
It wasn’t until, I’d say about seven years ago that I started going deep into the beliefs, and then and that transformed my life in a major way. I mean, one thing I did recently was I had hypothyroidism, and I was able to completely heal that naturally.
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How’d you do that?
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Change in all the the underwriting beliefs and then everything. Right? Everything I do with any ai, it’s the same thing I sana do for me. It’s holistic. So, of course, I went through a huge gut cleanse. Right? Because the gut is everything. It’s the foundation. So did a lot of fasting, elimination diet, cutting out almost all foods except for a few boiled chicken, bulk of carrots, coconut oil.
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02:11:49
Started slowly noticing how I felt as I started to increase the portion and start to bring other foods in. I did red light therapy. There’s some good red light therapy research out there for the thyroid if you just put it on. There is a study that showed that people were able to cut their medication in half just by using the the infrared right Woah. Light therapy. Yeah.
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02:12:09
It’s good for a ton of things. Great for the gut. So I just started synchronicity. Right? I met this lady on the beach in Miami Beach who studies this stuff, red light therapy specifically for the gut. And I was like, what about the thyroid?
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And she’s like, yeah. Of course it’ll help. It’s light. Light heals everything. So I just started researching it. So it was all I did a lot of things.
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I cut out caffeine this year. That was a big thing that I don’t think caffeine creates hypothyroidism. But for me, when I turned on that gene, right, epigenetics, I turned on the gene for I didn’t have to have this, but, like, my mom has it, my brother has it. And so I had the gene, and I put it on through stress, through excessive caffeine and just a very stressful life in my mid twenties.
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02:12:46
So the way he turned off was turn off the things that arya associated with that stress response. So pulling out the caffeine just put me more on the parasympathetic nervous system, allowed me to relax more. And then, yeah, all this stuff. And just noticing the fears come up when I pull away my the things Sai like. Right?
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The comfort of the food, the comfort of the caffeine, just all ai things that I like, all the comfort and just seeing with the fears that came out through that and just recoding it, recoding it. This is gonna sound very woo woo, but I was taking the meh. Because, you know, if you ask a doctor, they tell you you have to take this medication for the rest of your life. Right.
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And they get mad that you even ask about what an alternative is. Like, I’ve had doctors be like, be grateful. You just have to take a pill. Like, get out of here. But there was actually experience I had two years ago where a doctor wouldn’t give me my medication even though my blood didn’t change.
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He said, oh, you’re gonna have to come back in here every three months. I wanna monitor it. He tried to put me on, like, subscription plan to pay more money just to keep getting it. And it was, like, flip something to me. I was like, I’m not doing this anymore. Wow. I’m gonna find a way to get off this medication.
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It just This is something that RFK Jr is trying to stop is financial incentives.
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The gatekeeper Yeah. Of this medication.
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Yeah. The financial incentives to subscribe things and then gatekeeping whether or not you can get useful meh. It’s kinda crazy.
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02:14:04
Yeah. But yeah. So, I just had I did all these things very holistically. Right?
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Mhmm.
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Doing Sana, doing all these things. And then just feeling into my body one day, it was just ai intuition just told me. It was like, hey, you’re done. You don’t need anymore. Wow. And so what I did, of course, I asked Chiachip T. I was like, I can’t just stop taking it.
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And What did Chiachip T say?
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It said take one day on, one day off. I did that. By the third day of taking it again, my body rejected it. I felt terrible. I felt like a depletion of energy.
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It’s just three days?
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02:14:37
The third day of not taking it. Really? Third day of taking it. Wow. So I took it. I didn’t take it. And the day that I took it again, my body rejected it. And I was like, I get it. I’m done, and I haven’t touched it since.
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That’s crazy.
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Ai think there’s a lot of things like that.
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02:14:51
Well, I wonder if that that study that shows that visualization increases physical strength. Like, I sana I really wonder if there’s if you have the ability to accentuate healing, if you just concentrate like, if you get an injury and the injury is gonna heal, but if if concentrating on that injury helps it heal more.
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02:15:11
Oh.
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But how many people actually do that? Right? How many people actually, like,
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02:15:14
really visualize something? Well, even just the placebo effect of thinking you got it. So there’s a study. I think it’s done on, ACL surgeries. Could be it could be meniscus. It was one of these knee surgeries where they took two groups. They give one’s one group the surgery.
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The other group, they just cut their knee open and then sewed it right back up. Same results over whatever the Wait
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a minute. It can’t be ACL surgery because ACL is a stabilizing ligament.
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It was one of these knee surgeries.
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Yeah.
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And they had the same results.
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That doesn’t make sense. That that seems Tell
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me how you’re
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That seems a little wacky. Because ACLs are it’s that’s sai the the that’s a ligament as a center that keeps it from moving side to side and up and down.
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Maybe it was meniscus.
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Maybe. That makes more sense. Oh, yeah. Meniscus surgeries are rough because when they take it out, then you have this hole there. You have, like, a gap missing depending on how much you take out. And some guys get a bunch of their meniscus taken out. Guys even get, like, artificial meniscus put in or, donor meniscus,
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you know. But, I mean, was that book I
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think visualization is a factor. And belief.
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Yeah. If you you’re not
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gonna regrow your ACL though with your brain. No. Ai mean, if it’s not connected, get that shit fixed. But because I know a lot of guys who didn’t, and then eventually they did. I know a lot of guys who got their ACL blown out, and they just tried to rehab it. But it kept grinding, so they’re always it’s always slipping out.
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They’re always tearing their meniscus more. It’s ai, fuck, dude. Just get it fixed. Yeah. Get it fixed. Six months later, you’ll be back on the mats.
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Get your ACL fixed.
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Yeah.
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Get your
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ACL fixed.
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02:16:46
Yeah. Ai. It’s wild. I mean, if you start going down this rabbit hole of seeing, like, how many placebo studies have been done, that’s why it’s so hard to find drugs that actually work.
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Okay. This is weird.
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Ai think
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this is sort of thing.
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02:16:55
What does it say? Hundred and eighty patients, osteoarthritis, knee surgery. We’re randomly assigned to receive arthroscopic Debridement? Meh. Ar ar ar ar ar ar ar arthroscopic lavage or placebo surgery. Patients in the placebo, group received skin incisions and underwent a similar deep debridement without insertion of the arthroscope.
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02:17:18
Patients and assessors of the outcome were blinded to the treatment group. Assignment outcomes were assessed at multiple points over a twenty four month period with the use of five self reported scores, three on scales for pain and two on scales for function, and one, objective test of walking and stair ai.
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02:17:36
A total of one hundred and sixty five patients completed the trial. Results, at no point did either of the intervention groups report less pain or better function than the placebo group. Interesting. For, but this is just ai I always wonder, like, how bad was their injury? What, you know, what are we talking about? How many people were there?
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02:17:58
How many people were in this group? 165 patients. Conclusions in this controlled trial involving patients with osteoarthritis of the knee, the outcomes after arthroscopic lavage or arthroscopic debridement were no better than those after a placebo procedure. That’s kinda nuts, man.
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02:18:17
And I think, like, it’s weird how we talk about the placebo that way. It’s kinda like diminishing it. It’s like, yeah, look, it didn’t work, but that’s not what happened. The people believe they got the surgery.
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02:18:26
Right. That’s the fucked up part about placebo effects. It’s measurable. Like, the benefits are measurable.
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02:18:31
Ai, those people did they did heal. They did have less pain. They did
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have But the question is, like, would they have healed anyway without it? I don’t know. Or is it because they believe that they were healed? That it relaxed them, and then they were thinking, okay. It’s healing now. I got the surgery. It’s on the right track. It’s getting better now.
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And maybe if they have that ai,
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if they
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could figure out a way to make that mindset without the surgery, they could’ve just do it. Yeah. Belief. Belief. Alright, dude. The success code, did you have, an audible or an audio version of this?
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02:19:03
It’s on Spotify. It’s audible. Did you read it? I did read it.
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02:19:07
Nice. Ai me. I I love when It’s all
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02:19:09
my my dirty stuff.
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02:19:10
Read their own stuff and a bunch of people, sing your praises in the back of the book
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02:19:15
and, You can look up my name because I rebranded it and I haven’t changed the name on Spotify. So just look up ram apps and you’ll find the book.
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What do you mean you rebranded the book? Yeah. How did ai What you called on Spotify?
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02:19:25
Programmed to Fail.
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02:19:26
Okay. We’ll let people know.
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02:19:27
Yeah.
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Sai they could
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Programmed to Fail on Audible. Okay. Success code on
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02:19:31
Alright. Beautiful. Thanks, brother. It was fun. Thank you, brother. Alright. Bye, everybody ai.