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Mike Maxwell is an artist whose work explores many themes, including humanity, consciousness, and the unknown.
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hey. Mike Maxwell.
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What’s happening, Joe Rogan? My man.
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Good to see you.
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It’s good to be here.
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For anybody who doesn’t know, Mike Maxwell is an amazing artist sana did not just that painting with Quentin Tarantino in front of it, which is pretty fucking cool, but also the JRE logo.
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Yeah. The Internet logo. Yeah. That was funny.
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How many years ago was that? Like, fifteen fucking years ago? Yeah.
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It has to be. I think you were, like, on episode 10, maybe. Wow.
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Yeah. That’s crazy.
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Yeah. And super fucking random too. Like, I get the question all the ai. Like, how the fuck did you do that? You know? And for me, like, my whole, like, art experience has just been ai, make the work and whatever the fuck happens afterwards is just all bonus, you know?
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Well, if the work is great, that works. You know? It’s ai Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn’t have to be discovered. Someone has to find you. But, yeah, ultimately, it’s about talent.
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Yeah. And and, you know, hard work too.
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Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
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I mean, because that talent really doesn’t come like, artists sai often are, ai, people are like, Ai, like, I wish I could draw. Like, you’re so lucky. Like, god given talent. I’m like, bitch, I had to fucking I work every day and have been grinding at this for twenty five, twenty six years.
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There’s no god given talent with art. There’s some people have an openness or maybe an ability to see things differently than others. But when it comes to the actual technique
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Yeah.
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And developing that fine hand eye coordination and the the ability to draw exact or paint exactly what you’re looking for Yeah. That’s work. That’s work.
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Yeah. And it it nothing came easy. Like, I feel like there’s some arya and, like, some creative people who they have some, like, inert talent that’s in there somewhere, or it’s ai we have the right brain chemistry to, like, get started. But, like, I’m still improving. Twenty twenty five, twenty six years in, I’m still recognizing improvements.
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Yeah. I thought that that particular one that we just posted a picture of, that was, like, one of your best ones. That that is fucking amazing.
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Well, I told you, like, I probably put more time and effort into that piece than anything I’d made previously.
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Look at that thing. I mean, that is so sick. That is so sick. And it’s ai, that is this show.
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Yeah. Right? And what’s funny, like, that piece was really, like, all the components were just separate drawings that I had been, like, compiling.
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Oh, wow.
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And then it, like, eventually just ai of formed itself. Like, sometimes Sai just let the work do do what it needs to do. Sometimes it’s almost like I feel disconnected from it. Yeah. And I have like, there gets to a point after, like, all the, like, prep work where it’s, like, the painting starts to paint itself.
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Like, it tells me what it wants. Yeah. It’s very strange. Like, there’ll be a moment where it’s like Ai could feel something’s not ai, and then, like, I can’t consciously think of, okay, well, I need to do a, b, and c. But it’s kinda like I sit and wait and something tells me. Right?
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It’s so crazy that you say it that way because so many people, including authors in particular, they they talk about the exact same ai of process. It’s like something just comes to you.
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Yeah. And that’s I’ve I’ve done a little bit of ai, and I’ve I’ve recognized that in writing too, where, like, I’m telling a story, and then all of a bryden, it’s ai the characters come to ai.
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Yeah.
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And they start to dictate what’s actually gonna happen.
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Yeah.
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Ai, it writes itself eventually. But you have to do all that beginning work, like the prep work. Like, you have to get the idea going. And then once you’re a certain, like, path in, like, it starts to it starts to communicate with you.
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I always wondered why that’s maybe that’s why Stephen King wrote his best work when he was coked up and drunk. Because he was out of his head. Yeah.
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Ai think he he could
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get away from his own head.
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Yeah.
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I know that sounds ridiculous, especially to sober people.
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Yeah. They don’t you know what I mean? Yeah.
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Like, they don’t wanna admit that there’s there’s that’s there’s a a net positive effect of some people with drugs in writing. Hunter s Thompson is a giant example.
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Yeah.
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He’s one of my favorite authors and it’s a giant example. The guy was an inveterate drug user.
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Yeah.
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He was a fucking complete maniac. He was always drunk and he wrote some shit that just to this day cuts to the core of our society. Yeah. Like, he was He’s
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one of my all time heroes. Like, I started reading him when I was in high school. I’ve read all almost everything, I think. I even like the Hey Rube stuff. Yeah. Like, a lot of people are ai, like, he was in his ai. But I remember when that was coming at, like, pretty early Internet. Mhmm. Right? Like, no social media. But those little articles would pop up.
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And I I still enjoyed it. Like, I I love everything that that he made.
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Well, he at the end was gone. He was really gone. And Macumber, so David Macumber, who is his editor, who also co wrote a book with my friend, Tony Saloni, that’s one of the great pool books. It’s called Playing Off the Rail. It’s a really and for anybody who’s a fan of pool, the game, it’s an amazing book about a guy whose name is Tony Antigoni, who is a world class player, who went on the road with a journalist and just gambled across the country.
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Yeah. And did it did it like a real pool hustler would in the the most dangerous, dingiest places
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playing against
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I’m not
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that shit.
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High level guys for, you know, $10,000 sets and twenty four hour joints in New York City. It’s sai amazing book. Well, Macomber was Hunter’s editor too at one point in ai. And Macomber got him towards the end. To like there’s video of seeing if I ai video of Hunter Thompson and David McCumber having a conversation.
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Because Hunter was
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It must have been a fucking nightmare.
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Nightmare. Never never got his stuff in on time. Yeah. He he famously would destroy the fax machine because he did because he was supposed to fax his pages to Rolling Stone magazine.
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I love that video when he’s in the Rolling Stone’s office. It’s, Jan Wenner is, ai, like, looks like the whole building’s gonna fucking burn down. Just panic. Meh.
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I mean, just try to imagine controlling a guy like that. You can’t he can’t control himself. But out of that, sometimes ai that no one else is capable of writing comes through.
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Yeah.
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And it was much less so at the end. And they got away from him at the end, which it’s going to do that. Cocaine and alcohol, you’re not gonna it’s unsustainable.
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At that level for that long
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It’s unsustainable. Everybody I know that has done a lot of coke, they at the end, they’re a mess. It’s a neurological condition. All sorts of weird shit happens
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to them.
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You can’t fry your brain
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for a ai time. And these guys will fry it.
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Well, it’s like it’s the deficiency afterwards. Right? Sai you’ve used up all the available dopamine that you have in your brain. Exactly. And it’s just ai, well, fuck it.
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I had a friend who was a crack addict who, was also friends with my friend who ran a pool hall, but also was involved in recovery and was involved in helping people with recovery. He was so he was As for the fact? Well, he was helping people that were getting sober and he wasn’t trying to help my friend Johnny.
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My my friend Johnny didn’t sana any help. He was like, fuck your help.
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Right.
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I’m smoking crack.
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Yeah.
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And, he was explaining to me the whole dopamine thing. The dopamine and serotonin receptors just get cooked.
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Yeah.
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And then you’re so depressed that you need it just to feel normal.
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Yeah. You’re you’re always at a you’re below baseline.
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Right. You
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know? I kinda feel like I fall into that little category a little bit to where it’s ai, I’m just below baseline normal. And, like, a couple like ai, I don’t get super excited for shit, but it’ll be ai something something that I’m looking forward to will kinda just get me to ai.
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Mhmm. Like, right around normal. And I I sometimes wonder, like, I used to do a lot of LSD when I was a teenager. And I I wonder if ai, define a lot. I mean, we had we had one summer that me and my boys just it was, like, every two days. Each.
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Like, you know, ai a week. How old were you? 16. Oi. Yeah.
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But also at the you know, at the same time, maybe that has had some power in the sort of creative aspect too. Right. Right? Even even if it’s just ai looking at the world differently, which is just so common with psychedelics.
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Right.
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Right? Just kinda gives you some perspective that’s so far removed from our normal day to day reality. Right. Right? So it’s ai you Sai Ai think for meh, it’s like, what more am I not seeing? You know? Like like, what am I what am I missing in my normal reality that maybe exists? But Ai it could be total bullshit. Like, I don’t know.
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It might not have done anything for my creativity, but, you know?
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Ai it seems to have a profound effect on a lot of people that have experiences and just they’ll talk about like this one. Like, didn’t Steve Jobs talk about it? One else LSD experience and just kinda shift to the way he thought about things. Oh, here it is.
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With those tiny shorts on him?
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Fucking great. This is the meh. The crazy I’m so sorry. Walk around with a gun. I can’t even understand them.
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Lumber thieves. You die with these. Do one of these things in this coming. Turn that person. What? What did I do? I was behind the fence. No. I understand. I couldn’t go. I I I, I made you go look at him. We’ve got that. We’re trying to get seriously busy here. Okay.
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If you’ve been calling me every conceivable dinner, mate, you dirty sock. You dirty stupid bastard. I’ve had a whole affair.
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You flaky ants, small.
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Yeah. No. Well, we’re, we’re an hour away ram, perdition here. Well, not to mention the first edition. I don’t, I Sai ai, we’re gonna do it.
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Do you have a computer? It’s hard to tell.
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Oh, you have a computer? I wonder what year this was.
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’80 this came out in ’88, so probably, like, ’87.
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When did people first start having computers? When did you have your first computer, Jamie? You were you’re younger than that.
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Ai was later than that. I had, like, Windows, I think, was our first one.
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In what year? Like, ’95?
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No. We had to whatever Windows was before that.
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03/2008 or whatever it was?
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Just went one. What was is that what it was? When Windows ’95 came out, that’s it was a big day.
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It was a big day.
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Oh, yeah.
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I remember.
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I could do stuff.
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I got my CD ROMs. I’ve I got a Apple computer from, CompUSA in 1994.
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Yeah. I think Sai was right around, like, ’97. Big ass fucking thing too.
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But my friend Robbie knew what to buy. My friend Robbie, either he worked in computers or his brother worked in computers. So So he took me to CompUSA. I had no idea. I’m like, what is this?
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My mom, she worked in a computer lab at the community college in San Diego, and she was, like, one of the first to start using Apple products. Like, everything was PC
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Oh, wow. In the spot.
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And she knew, like, something was, like, getting ready to pop off. And she was, ai, like, she had the first iPhone, like, early, like, those fucking Apples that, you know, it looked like a TV from the eighties.
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Yeah.
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Just weighed 600 pounds. Yeah. And actually, like, got into graphic design early. And that’s kinda how I started doing some because I I made art my whole ai, but started doing some ai, like, learning how to actually use the fucking computer. And now, like, I’ve learned What kind of programs were available back then? Photoshop and Illustrator were out, but it was ai one and two. Wow. Yeah.
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And she was in there and and taught me how to do it. And then, like, I still, like, do graphic design, but it’s like it’s from like, I still use the techniques from, like, 1999.
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Well, it kinda shows you that there’s a lot of, like, untapped comedic talent in the tech industry. Because memes were one of the first forms of new comedy Yeah. That hit the Internet and it had to be by someone who knew how to work the old school Photoshops. Yeah. So you had to have some technical understanding of the programs. You had a view it was probably people that were using them already.
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You know, they were graphic artists, and they were ai, fuck this guy. Let’s make a funny meme.
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Yeah. Because, I mean, before before that, you had to do everything by hand. It was a lot of, like, cut and paste and, like Yeah. And, like, different techniques. It was everything was by hand.
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When did memes, like, really funny memes first start appearing? I had to I feel like
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it has to be, like, February. ’99, February.
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The Internet meh. Oh.
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John Dawkins concept 1972. Right. But Internet That was
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that book that he had. Right? The Selfish Gene. It’s what was coming up? Wasn’t it in that?
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That dancing baby was coming up. Yeah. That’s that I feel like that’s the earliest.
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The dancing baby was the first?
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Yeah. The, ram, like, a TV show. Oh,
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yeah. A terrible animated dancing baby. What year was that? Shh. Bro, that’s just stuff of nightmares. If you’re in the woods, you see a dancing baby, it looks like that. The uncanny valley dancing baby.
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It would just fuck that would be so scary.
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Imagine if you sai arya of the ones you
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would have to punt it.
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Bro, you’d have to run. You you if you kick it, it grabs a hold of you and bites you like a wolf. Yeah.
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But what if it runs ai fucking a 100 miles an hour?
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Well, you’re gonna find out. At least you’ll find out. Actually, if you run it’s
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worse because then you’re ai, it’s probably right there watching you. Yeah. You’re you’re just trying to catch your breath.
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Yeah. And you see it’s
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a little face behind the bush.
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No. No. No. It stays just far enough from you that you think you have to run. If it’s really trying to trying to scare you, it doesn’t wanna jump on you. And once it gets really close for a long time
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Yeah.
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For a long ai, so it wears everything out. You wanna wear it out. Ai, that’s how you do it if you’re chasing a person. You don’t just run up on them. That just spoils all the fun.
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Right. Isn’t that like the old school hunters too? Just ai chasing a pack of deer for Oh, yeah. That’s why human beings
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can run so long. But that’s a different thing. They’re overheating them. It’s that’s called, it’s called persistence hunting. Yeah. That’s why there’s so many amazing marathon runners come from that part of the world. Because, like, these guys have a history of literally running animals to their death.
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Right. Fucking That’s a phrase. Who had to figure that out too? Bro. Who’s like, well, I got five miles in me. Yeah. Let me just keep Ai. I need 10.
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Let me just keep running until this deer stops running. Like, how would you ever think that you a deer, you would eventually catch it?
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Yeah. Especially if they’re so fucking fast.
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They’re so fucking fast. Like, how would you think that one day that antelope was gonna get tired? Like, how would you even have that in your head?
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Yeah.
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That it couldn’t just take a speak. It’s gonna be 300 yards ahead of you like that.
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I love those thoughts. Take a break,
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catch its breath. They didn’t even know that it’s the issue is the animals don’t have sweat glands. So they overheat.
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Shit.
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Yeah. So we have sweat glands.
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And of course, they weren’t ai. So ai also didn’t know that either. Well, that’s why we’re so weird.
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We’re such a weird animal. And then our bodies really can kind of adapt to different climates and they self cool and regulate. Like, some animals, if they’re outside of their climate range, they’re fucked. Yeah. Like, they’re in deep shit. Yeah. You know, like, Marshall over here.
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Where are
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you, buddy? Oh. Oh, he’s right here. He’s right beside me. We have to, you know, if we’re gonna exercise in Texas, we have to do it in the morning. Right.
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Or we
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have to jump in the pool because, you know, his body’s adapted for cold. He’s got this crazy wool
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coat that he wears everywhere he goes. Yeah.
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It sucks. But for us, man, we can we sweat and they figured out, I guess, a long time ago that these animals, if you just keep running after them, eventually, they just can’t do it anymore. And then they lay down, and then you fucking stab them.
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Yeah. That’s so fucking wild.
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But it it made insane runners.
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Yeah. You’re running
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the only way you’re gonna feed your children is if you run after that deer, bro. You’re gonna become a fucking runner.
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And now the evolutionary process is, like, you go to the Olympics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they
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have you like this on the cover of Wheaties.
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It it is it it really is interesting because, like, that’s before I started doing jiu jitsu, like, that was what I was doing. I was running. Oh. Like and but it just got fucking boring. Yeah. I mean, it got boring. And that that’s when I was like, okay. I gotta find something else because Yeah.
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That’s what most people the problem they have with the gym. And jujitsu is the opposite of boring. Jiu Jitsu is it’s one of the most rewarding things in ai, because it’s super hard to do. It’s really good for your head. Like, Jiu Jitsu people in general, like you get dickheads in all walks of ai. Sure. And female dickheads too. But for a lack of a better word.
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But you you get the nicest people, like, for the most part. You get people of character.
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Yeah.
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Because you have to have character to stick it out.
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Yeah.
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To be doing Jiu Jitsu if you’re if you’ve been doing Jiu Jitsu eight years, I can 99% sure I can hang out with you. Yeah. Exactly. You’re a dude who’s got his shit together.
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It’s almost like we’re we’re like distant family members or something.
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100%. Yeah. 100%. It’s like you recognize you’ve been through this thing. Yeah. You know, I started doing Jiu Jitsu in ’96. So ai, I was at Carlson Grace
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Ai. I was ’29?
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’29?
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Yeah. Sai, I start Ai arya at 30. Yeah. Like ai ram same time.
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Yeah. Around the same ai. And and I started right after it was kinda like a year or two after I first saw the UFC. You know, it’s right around that time.
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Yeah.
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And so Ai started at Carlson Gracie’s place in, in LA that was right down the street from ram Comedy Store. It’s real close to the Comedy Store. And, that was when Vitor Belfort was he had just fought John Hess in Ai. Yeah. He was about to enter the UFC.
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And that that was that first crew in California from Brazil too.
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Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Marilla Bustamante. Uh-huh. You know, there was a a whole ton of these guys that came from Brazil.
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I think Maderos was there too.
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Mario Sperry was there.
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Uh-huh.
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I got to train with Mario Sperry, dude
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Yeah.
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When I was a white belt.
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That’s wild.
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And he didn’t have no idea who the fuck I was because I wasn’t anybody. I wasn’t famous at all. Yeah. And, he was the fucking nicest guy in the world, man.
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Yeah.
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You know, he he he speak Mario Sperry explained to us how he got his triangle really good. He would make his girlfriend sit in his guard and he would just ai and go and she would complain like stop stop. Just let me do this.
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Poor guy. Let me let me
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use your body to practice triangles.
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I mean, because that’s what it takes. It’s, like, it’s kinda hard to do it by yourself.
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I have a dummy,
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but I don’t use it. I have one of them.
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I used to have a Gracie dummy back home in LA.
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Yeah. Every gym has one that just sits in the corner and nobody fucking
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You really wanna do it with people. Yeah. It’s not just, you know, the difference between the rolling and the drilling. It’s like the the people that get really good, they they put the the shitty work in. Yeah. You know, the long drilling sessions, that boring ass shit.
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Yeah. You have to. Yeah. I I have because I teach now. And, like, what belt do you know? I’m a black belt.
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Oh, snap, son. When I met you, what were you?
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I was probably a purple belt. How did we meet? Shit.
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I don’t even remember how we met because it was so long ago.
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Well, it’s ai yeah. Like, I get I get the
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the question. I can’t even answer ai question.
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That’s funny. Well, I so my sister worked at the Comedy Store in La Jolla as a waitress. She’s a she’s a nurse now. And you were doing a show at somewhere downtown at, like, the Balboa Theater Probably. Maybe?
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Yeah.
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And it was sold out. And, I just hit her up and was like, hey. Do you think you can give me tickets? Because she knew everybody from the store in La Jolla. And Ari ended up getting a pair of tickets for me. And so I went to the show, whatever. Did you know Ari already? My sister was friends with Ari.
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Oh, okay.
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Ai yeah. I didn’t know anybody yet. And, maybe two weeks later, she hits me up. She’s like, hey. Can you do a poster for our marquee for it was Ari, Tony Hinchcliffe, and Ai it was supposed to be Duncan Trussell, but maybe it was Duncan. But regardless, and from what I meh, you must have seen that poster at some point.
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That makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense.
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And then meh did the we did the Atlanta four twenty show.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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So that was probably I feel like I meh you before, because I popped in on one of those, those Ai House Chronicles from back in the day.
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Oh, those were fun. Look at that one, man. What a great one.
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Yeah. That was the 04/20 show. Look. So that was 2012.
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Goddamn. Time flies, son.
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And so that ended up becoming the the graphic for the logo. We had the microphone. It’s perfect. Duncan with the little hit acid on his tongue?
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It’s the perfect logo. I mean, you fucking nailed it. Now it’s everywhere. That’s gotta be weird.
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Yeah. It’s re it’s fucking strange.
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It’s like this bug.
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Almost, like, disconnected from it.
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Yeah, dog.
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Yeah. Ai, like, of course, it’s grown. It’s ai it’s its own thing. But every time I see it, like, I know like, I drew that by hand. I was like, I Ai have the ink drawings still.
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That’s crazy.
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Yeah. It’s pretty fucking wild. Sai, you know, I put stuff out into the world all the time. I have thousands of paintings, thousands of different fucking places. But, I mean, more people see this image than guaranteed all the other ones.
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But more people see that image than anything else I’ve ever done. Yeah. That image is everywhere.
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Yeah. It’s pretty wild. What it was What a fucking weird trip. Right? I mean, you I I went to the show on Tuesday, and you were doing the, like, q and a Mhmm. At the end. And somebody had asked you about, like, what your goals are.
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Yeah.
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And you were, like, I I don’t have any. And I’m kind of in that same routine where, like, what I was saying, like, I do the work, zero expectations. Like, what happens will happen, and I’m just along for the ride.
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Well, that’s I think as long as you put the actual energy into the work, I I think, at least for me and you, that’s the way to do it. I don’t have like people there’s a lot of people out there with vision boards. I was talking to this dude the other day.
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He’s got
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this vision board. He’s got all these goals he wants for his company and goals all he wants for his life and this and shah. Yeah. Ai get it. That probably works too. That probably works too, but for me, I just only I feel like I only wanna think about the process. I wanna put all my energy into thinking about the process.
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Because that’s the rewarding part for a creator. Right? Like Yeah. Me in the studio by myself painting, I I get that clear mind Right. Where it’s ai, I I feel like I fucking meditate six hours a day, you know
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Just from work.
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Every day. Just from work. Because at some point in the painting process, like, the paint brush turns into a mantra almost to where, like, everything in my mind just like in jujitsu, like, everything shuts off because we’re in a hyper focused, like, mode of accomplishing a task.
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Right. Right.
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Right? And that’s for me painting all the reward is that. Yeah. It’s those moments, those even when Ai fucking hate it. Because there’s plenty of times when I’m like, this motherfucking painting. Like like, I can’t get it like, I know where I sana it to go, but it’s it’s ai, well, first, you’re gonna have to take 35 fucking steps before you can get there.
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Right. Right.
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And my you know, like, I know that, like, the finishing a painting is a little bit like a drug. I don’t know if you ever experienced this. Maybe, like, after getting off stage or something. Mhmm. But it’s, like, there’s a little, like, dopamine reward When it’s done. When it’s complete and done.
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You’re ai, oh, look at that. Yeah. It’s ai catching your breath.
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Yeah. Ai used to feel
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like that. I don’t know it.
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Sketches. I used to feel like that with drawings. Yeah. But on a smaller scale, obviously. I think it’s the same thing with martial arts. Because, you know, people always talk about martial arts sai being a moving meditation. Yeah. You know, I think I think and if you thought about martial arts, ai, if you if you’re a white belt and you thought about all the time that it’s gonna take before you become a black belt, you’re like, oh, my God.
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Yeah. I can’t do this. But if you just think about the process, the process will get you there. Yeah. You just have to just only be thinking about this idea, this process of improvement of dialing it in.
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That there’s and people oftentimes refer to martial arts as a moving meditation. Because to do it right, you’re kind of out of your own way. Like, did you ever do any did you do much striking?
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I did a year of Muay Thai. I got punched in the face a lot. Ai actually I found my brain not functioning quite the same way. Oh. And I even
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getting hit. Yeah.
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And I even found myself, like, getting frustrated, which was stupid. Right. Ai, to be in there. Yeah. Well, like, in in the process of of Muay Ai.
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Oh, okay.
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Like, I had a coach, and this was forever ago, who was kind of a prick, and just he had eight morning students who knew fucking dick, and we were terrible. You know?
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Oh, he wanted to be coaching pros. Right?
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That’s what it seemed like. Like, very That’s common. Very distant and, like like, phoning it in. Ugh. And I I recognized myself ai getting frustrated with it. But when I was in jiu jitsu class, if somebody caught me in something, I found myself laughing. Interesting. To where I was like, wow.
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That like, I never got frustrated. I never got, like, down on ai. Because I’m I mean, my whole first year, I don’t think I tapped a single person my first year. And Ai, like, I was in a tough gym. You know, it was a Noguera gym. And so, like, the whole first year of them being open, it was just ai the MMA guys were in there.
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It was ai pros training for, you know, a year or six months. And then they opened it up to the public,
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which is where I got in.
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And it was just it was just ass whoopings every day. Like, I I remember my first class like it was yesterday. Like, I got when we got to sparring, it was like I got like, I just looked at another white belt. It was like, okay. Let’s ai. And neither of us knew what the fuck we were doing. And the coach was like, hey.
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And, like, ram this purple belt who’s now he owns, Del Mar Jiu Jitsu, in San Diego. He, he came over his purple belt just just fucking, like, vanilla gorilla and hip tossed me.
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Oh, no.
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And I was like, what the fuck was that? Like, I had no idea what had happened. I was on my back, you know, trying to catch my breath, like, holy shah. What was that? And at that moment, like, I knew I like, I thought I was tough.
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Yeah. Like, I
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thought I had a little bit of toughness in me, and I was, like, just a complete humbling experience, but also, like, encouraging. Like, I feel like it was that singular hip toss, like, led me to be a black belt.
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Interesting. So because it was so overwhelming, you were like, I need to learn that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And And Ai was at kind of, like, a weird phase. So that was probably, like, around around 2008 when Yeah. Shit seemed to be it was, like, a little moment of, like, everything was going to shit. And, like, I had this weird feeling
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like like ai financial crisis. Yeah. This was when the banks collapsed.
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Everybody’s money was weird and
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it just The mortgage collapse thing.
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Yeah. And I felt like if shit hits the fan, like, maybe I should know how to do something, which is such a weird yeah.
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Yeah. That’s a crazy thought.
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It’s it’s fairly abstract. Like, to me, it wasn’t ai I was, like, super concerned or, like, really serious about it. But I I had the thought of, like, if I need to defend myself or if I need and that’s why I was running too. It’s ai, if I need to fucking chase down a deer in, you know, until it overheats,
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then Right.
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And it it bryden up just being a little bit of a motivation. And then Ai just found the joy in it. I always said ai I ever opened a jiu jitsu gym, I would call it fun jiu jitsu. Ai steal that. Just because I mean, I was talking to, Zach, your security guard, at the comedy club. And, like, for me, I don’t get into street fights.
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I haven’t been in a street fight since I was a teenager.
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Yeah. Me too.
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You you know? Like, I’ve broken up fights more often than I’ve got into them.
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And You know, one thing I do find that’s really disconcerting, when fights break out, I don’t get nervous.
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That’s how beautiful is that? I’ve I’ve had that because I remember when fights would break out, your your anxiety shoots up, your heart rate
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I get weird if, like, someone close to me is with me and I’m worried about their danger.
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Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah.
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But the fact that two people are fighting, I’m so used to it. Yeah. It’s weird.
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I stopped a bar fight a couple years ago where a group of guys attacked this dude. One of them got a hold of him and he he sunk in a guillotine. Ai the guy got taken down ai away. A deep guillotine. Ai, all the way up over the shoulder, you know, like And was not
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letting him tap? Was not letting him out?
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No. No. No. No. And I I saw it all sort of ai of unfolding and I ran up there and I just whispered in his ear, if you do jiu jitsu, you should probably let go right now. That calm. He, like, looked at me, let go, dude was out cold. I actually grabbed the the guy who was out cold and picked his feet up.
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That’s a great way to handle it, the way you talk to him.
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Yeah. And he immediately looked at me ai, okay. Yeah. I hear what you’re saying. I’m gonna
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let go. This could be the difference between nothing happens to you, you’re just defending yourself, and you’re going to jail for a long ai, because this guy’s dead.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Especially if the guy’s out, you’re still holding on to it.
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Yeah. Oh. Yeah. And it was quick. It was tight. He he might not have known he was out, but Sai
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mean He’s probably so jumped up with adrenaline. Yeah. He’s, like,
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he had his girlfriend with him.
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And Yeah. Dude, street fights are stupid.
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So dumb.
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And if I see them, I just get the fuck away. But what just weird that I’m I’d I’ve seen so many people beat people up.
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Yeah.
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I have seen, ai, firsthand, there’s probably a tiny percentage of people on Earth that have seen more fist ai in person than me.
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Yeah. I I can’t imagine especially at that close range.
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At close range with world class fighters.
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Because it’s sai when you’re in at a UFC event, like, those fights feel so much more intense and so much more, like Dude, you gotta come with meh.
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You gotta come with me to the Apex. The Apex is the place to see fights. Yeah. The Apex Center is the UFC’s private little auditorium. It’s tiny. It only seats, like, a 100 people.
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Is that where they’re doing the fights during COVID? Yeah.
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Yeah. Dude, I saw Francis Ngannou versus Stipe Miocic in a small cage with no audience. That’s wild. It was wild.
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Those sounds are sounds you don’t hear.
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Bro, it was wild. Yeah. It was so different because Francis’ punches and kicks without all the cheering.
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Yeah. To hear that sound.
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It’s a different thing, man. Because you’re you’re experiencing what that fighter is experiencing. Not you’re not getting the pain Yeah. But the thud, the force that that you feel it different. Yeah. You feel ai through the arena, you feel a small little ram, you feel it.
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And Ai remember Concussion in the air.
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When he collapsed, when he hit him on the left hook and dropped him and then punched him when he was down, I was like, oh ai god. It was so different than seeing it in an arena. It was so intimate. Yeah. It’s ai, I always say that it’s like the difference between going to see an acoustic concert and going to see a concert in a a gigantic arena.
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Right.
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You know, you go see someone in a club doing an acoustic set ai Gary Clark Junior did an acoustic set. It’s different. Like, wow, this is intimate.
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This is cool. That’s why I always like the prelim fights for the few fights that I’ve gone to.
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Right.
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And it’s interesting. I noticed myself getting nervous for the fighter walking especially that first fight, like, first prelim. Ai, I can
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get, like, 10 people in the room. Yeah.
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Yeah. It’s weird. Yeah. And that that walkout moment is Mhmm. So peculiar. Yes.
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Ai Very peculiar.
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And I don’t I don’t know if everybody else feels it, but it’s ai Sai can almost feel their anxiety Oh, 100%. As they’re walking out.
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And some ai, you don’t feel that at all. You just feel this confidence, this crazy confidence. That’s fascinating too. The guys can get so good and work themselves into a headspace where they they ai, Ilya Toporia. He walks in there ai he’s already won. He celebrates the night before. He has a celebration dinner with all his friends and family the night before the fight.
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He walks out there with there’s not a doubt in the world. No doubt.
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I wonder how much of that comes from everything that he’s done so far, ai, just a a supreme confidence.
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Oh, it’s definitely from that, but I also think Ai think he’s touched by the universe. I think there’s there’s certain people that have a saloni. Obviously, hard work. Obviously, discipline. Obviously, intelligence. Obviously, great trainers. All those things are
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Yeah.
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You can’t get past the technique that he has, but there’s an understanding of what to do and how to do it and when to do it and an ability that’s above and beyond.
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And Ai see this all the time where it’s ai two people who seem ai they would be equal Yeah. In skills or even just in knowledge. Right? But one of them out can completely outshine Yeah. The other.
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Well, you learn early on in martial arts that it’s it’s all hard work, but there’s certain dudes that have physical attributes that are just freakish.
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Yeah.
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They’re freakish. Like, the first thing that I ever my first introduction to real, like, high level martial arts was this guy named John Lee. And John Lee was the national light heavyweight champion in Taekwondo at the ai, and he was training for the World Cup. And I was leaving with my friend Jimmy.
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We’re coming home from a baseball game. We’re coming home from Fenway Park and we just passed by this Taekwondo school. And, I was like, let’s go up. It was we’re waiting for the t. The t takes forever. It’s a train. It’s always packed. Everybody’s leaving the baseball game at the same time.
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It’s gonna be a mob scene. Let it die ai for a little bit. Let’s go check out this Taekwondo class. And as we’re walking up the stairs, I hear kachunk. Yeah. Kachunk. Ai, this crazy noise, like a thump and then a rattle of chains. That’s what I was hearing.
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And it was this dude practicing a spinning back kick on the back in his ai. Big long dude who had fucking ferocious power. He was just bending this bag in half. Yeah. And I was 14. And I was like, holy shit. I think I was 15.
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It was like it was the summer of my fifteenth birthday, but I I changed my life. I was like, I need to learn how to do that. Ai, that’s crazy.
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Yeah.
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But then, after a while, I realized, like, not everybody can do that. Like, there’s guys that are, like, high level guys that can’t do it. That ai Sai could do. That guy had some weird gift. He had a weird power gift.
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Yeah. Even ai it’s just biology. Ai, how your body was shaped.
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It’s a 100% biology when it comes to power. There’s like, if you have tiny hands and and sloped shoulders and girl hips, good luck.
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You’re you’re
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not gonna you’re you’re there’s no way you’re gonna generate John Lee type power.
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Yeah. And that’s ai like, I can’t punch to save my life, but I got these long skinny ass arya, like, I’ll darce the fuck out of you.
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Oh, they’re perfect for Jiu Jitsu. Yeah. Long arms and thin arms are perfect for Jiu Jitsu. Because it’s all leverage, man. Ai think one of the best things, most inspirational things that can happen to you if you can handle it in Jiu Jitsu is getting mauled by a smaller person.
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Yeah. As a person, like, quite a bit, 30 pounds lighter than you and just runs through you. And you’re ai, wow. Yeah. Ai, okay.
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It’s not about strength at all. Yeah. It’s about skill, knowledge, technique.
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Timing. Timing? Timing is fucking everything.
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Timing is a lot, but you have to know what to do with the timing.
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Yeah. And you gotta be on time. You have
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to have technique. You have to have technique. Your technique has to be because there’s some ai, like, some guys they’ll wrap something up and it’s ai nine out of 10. Like, you’re gonna squeeze it, maybe get the tap. But there’s other ai, they lock something and you’re ai, oh, there’s no way out of this.
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Yeah. This is death.
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This is death. Yeah. Yeah. This is 10 out of 10.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Like an Eddie Bravo triangle. You get locked in Eddie Bravo’s ai, like, I’m not getting out of this. This is tap time.
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That’s I’ve been wondering. So I I play lockdown a lot, and maybe getting too technical is probably fucking boring.
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But That’s okay.
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I have an extra muscle in my calf. What? It well, it’s this I have the same muscle in my left calf, but my right one is twice the size. Just a little strand from making that little hook on the shin.
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Oh, you’re just from Jiu
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Jitsu. Locked down. Wow.
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Yeah. You know, you could exercise that. You know, there’s a a thing called a tib bar.
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Do you
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know what that is? Uh-uh. This would be really good for jiu jitsu for especially for people who really love butterfly guard. And it’s just good for overall knee stability. I learned about it through the knees over toes guy on Instagram. Have you ever done any history?
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No. But I I need to start looking into it.
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Look into it. Yesterday. Really good for knee health and strengthening the knees. Yeah. A lot of amazing exercises. But one of the things that he, has that he recommends is a Tibbar. And so what it is is, it’s like a thing that attaches to your shoe and you lift weights by lifting your foot upward.
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Ai lifting your toes towards your knee.
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Yeah.
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Which is an exercise you very rarely meh. But it’s really good.
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Yeah. That’s It’s
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really good. And for butterfly guard, that would be it, man. Because you could get that motherfucker strong as shit
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with Yeah.
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Not just doing butterfly guard, but lifting lifting for that you would for sure. I always thought, like, leg extensions too, that would help in a big way. Right? Yeah. You know, for the same kind of muscles, the forcing, like, the extending the leg Yeah.
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Because that’s sai that feels awkward at first to try to elevate from that position. Yeah. Right? Like, especially if your knees are fucked. I’m I’m kind of I’m sixteen years in now, and I’m like, I’m avoiding the the heavyweight roles. Right. Like, the super tough like, I just have to, like Protect yourself. Protect myself. And still, like, I never wanna stop either.
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So, like, I wanna be able to get in there and and fuck around as much as possible. But Yeah.
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You gotta pick who you roll with for sure. That’s important, especially as you get older. Are you doing TRT or anything like that? No.
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I wish.
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Why don’t you do it? Oh, you son of a bitch.
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What does that mean?
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What does
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that mean? What does that mean, Mike Maxwell?
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What does that mean?
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I I I just haven’t had a chance, I suppose. I mean
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While ai you’re in town, I’m gonna hook you up with Wayswell.
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Okay.
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How many more days are you here?
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I leave tonight.
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Oh, shit. Yeah. What time tonight?
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Nine.
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Oh, yeah. We could do that. We could make it happen. We’ll make it happen. I’ll make a call as soon as we get out
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of here, and I’ll have
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you go over there, right right before you take off.
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Yeah. Because shit has gone gone pretty south.
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You should get blood at the very least, if you don’t do anything, you should get blood work. Good blood work, find out where your hormone levels are at. Yeah. How is your diet?
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It’s not bad. Like, I I eat pretty good. I actually, cut out sugar this year. Wait. Big impact? Humongous.
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Ain’t it crazy?
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Humongous. You’re poisoning yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s just, like like, what I was saying, like, being that, like, slightly lower than baseline, like, sugar gives you that little dopamine, like, fix that is, like, okay. I feel ai now. And so, like, I had a little soda habit, which, I mean, there could be fucking worse things. But It’s a lot worse than this.
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Maybe not though. You know? Like, sugar is pretty fucking bad for you.
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Well, it’s just so
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I lost 15 pounds, like
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Like that. Like that. Isn’t that crazy?
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Yeah. It’s so stupid.
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It’s so crazy how many people are just down in that stuff all day long.
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All day long. Yeah. And it just eating you from the inside. Well, you
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could see it in their body. Yeah.
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You could
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see it in their body. People oh, I’m sorry, buddy. I’m sorry. I put my foot on Marshall. I forgot he was there.
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I mean, you see it with kids. I mean Oh,
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it’s terrible for kids. It’s so bad. It’s so bad for everything. You know, but in moderation, it’s okay. But the problem is speak human beings are really bad with moderation of things that are literally designed to be addictive.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it’s so hard. And I’m a creature of habit to where it’s ai Sai build a routine and then I stick to that fucking routine.
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Yeah.
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And if that includes, you know
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Sugary drinks.
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Sugary drinks and a fuck of ice cream at night, whatever, ai, it’s gonna be there.
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I know. And especially if you’re putting in the work, if you’re working hard and and you’re working out, you’re ai, I deserve it. I deserve the poison myself. Yeah.
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Be ai, it’s saloni.
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There’s times like I’ll come home from the comedy club and it’s late and everyone’s asleep and I’m like, fuck it. I’m eating cereal. You know? I just
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Ai mean, you’re an adult, you get to choose.
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Every now and then and I always feel terrible after I do it. I’m like, why did you do that? Yeah.
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All those ideas that sound so great and you just build up a a beautiful idea and then you get done and you’re like, what the fuck?
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The only time I feel good is if I come home and I’ll cook a steak. I I do I do like that. Like, I’m sana actual take a whole hour to make myself a meal even though it’s 11:30 at night and I’m tired. I’m ai take a whole hour and make myself a meal and have the discipline to not eat any garbage before that because Yeah.
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When you’re tired, you make the worst dietary decisions.
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Yeah.
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There’s a part of you when you’re ai. I forget what it’s called. I forget what the the this is actually ai a thing that happens where you are impulsively going to go towards things that are bad for you.
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Yeah.
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You’re impulsively gonna go towards potato chips and ice cream and candy and bullshit because you’re fatigued.
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And there’s convenience. Right? Like
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It’s not just that. If there was a fucking home cooked meh, like mashed potatoes, green beans, a a beautiful, like, half chicken that was cooked on a on a on a on a grill or ice cream. You might take the ice cream if no one was around.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, you might you might grab a Kit Kat bar.
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It’s fine.
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You know? That’s You for sure, if there was a bowl of chips, just an inviting bowl of, like, ruffles Yeah. Sitting there, like, I’m a grab a couple of ruffles.
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And that’s that weird dopamine thing. Our brain rewards us somehow, and then it fucks with us later.
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You know what the thing is? The reward is not worth it. It’s not a good reward.
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Yeah.
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Like, it’s not like an orgasm. It’s not like the completion of a project. It’s not like the accomplishment of some great goal. The the the amount of whatever rush in your brain that you get from eating a shitty potato chip is not that much. Yeah. For what it does to you but if I eat a bag of ruffles, I feel like shit for five hours.
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Yeah. For sure. I started, it came from a a time place where I was really poor, and I tried to figure out, like, what’s the least amount of food I could eat in a day and still ai. Right?
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Oh, boy.
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And I what I started to do was, like, do little fastings during the day. So, like, I’d wake up, get a coffee, and not eat until, like, five. But then Ai started realizing that I felt good doing that, you know? Like like, my body started feeling better. And ai now Sai I pretty much do it regularly now, even though, like, I have money to get food. I would just just wait. Just wait.
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And I found myself actually getting, pleasure from the pain of I just said starvation. Like, I started to I started to like the feeling of being hungry. At a Really? Yeah. At a at a at a certain point.
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But how hungry are we talking about? This is, like, 24 in or how many hours in?
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No. I it’s like so I would I would basically eat one meal at, like, 05:30. Okay. So no food all day except, you know, I’d have some coffee with a little bit of half and half in it. So some fat and and drinking water, of course, or maybe, like, eat like a fucking banana or something.
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And I like, my body just felt great to where, like, before Sai, you know, I was probably eating something shitty in the morning, feeling shitty. Yeah. Spend till noon, eat some other fucking shitty thing. You know, as a young person, you just do whatever the fuck.
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Well, your body will get adapted. I mean, that’s why that whole intermittent fasting thing is interesting. Right? Because you’re you’re making your body digest food all day long. Like, if you’re eating all day long, your body your digestion system never gets break.
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Well, I started thinking, like, even, like, you know, back to chasing the fucking deer, like, our bodies used to have to go hunt Oh, yeah. To to get something to eat. So this idea of, like, waiting, you know, eight hours, six hours before eating anything from waking up, like, it all it arya to feel natural for me.
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Well, it is natural as long as you’re eating natural food. Yeah. That’s the thing. Yeah. So if you’re eating processed foods and a lot of bread and a lot of pasta and a lot of stuff that human beings have made especially ai our American bryden. Your your body is accustomed to a lot of sugar. Your body is accustomed to those complex carbohydrates just pouring into your system all day long.
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And you’re using those as a fuel source. If you’re subsisting off of fat and protein and meat and ai avocados and you’re getting healthy food, your body is working off a lot of ketones. Your body is it’s making its own glucose through gluconeogenesis from the meh, and it’s also running off of ketones from the fat.
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It’s a way more efficient way of doing it. And when you do that, you don’t get nearly as hungry. It’s you don’t have that feeling, that awful feeling. When, I was eating a lot of carbs and if I would go like four or five hours without eating, I would start getting fucking famished. Yeah.
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You don’t get famished when you eat only meat. It it stops. You get hungry, but it’s totally manageable.
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Yeah.
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Just that alone, I love. That the the the the not requiring food. Like, I can go sometimes I’ll I won’t eat breakfast. Sometimes I’ll work out. I won’t eat breakfast. I’ll come here. I’ll be here all day. And the first meal I have is dinner. Yeah. And I’m fine. Yeah. I’m literally fine.
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Like, it’s not bothering me. And it’s only because my body’s adapted to not eat processed shit.
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Yeah. Because it’s different if you feel like you’re gonna throw up or pass out because you haven’t fucking eaten and That’s people
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that eat a lot of fucking glucose. Yeah. People that are eating a lot of ai, a lot of bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Your your body needs fuel. You get low blood sugar and you start feeling like shit.
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Yeah.
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And, like, you gotta get something in you.
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Well, I noticed as soon as I started doing that, like, the stored fat, like, in my, like, little love handles or whatever, like, immediately just it was ai the sai like, okay, I gotta use this shit now. Yeah. And and burn it up. Just complete body change and, like, and meh, I felt so much better.
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Yeah. People that fast, and I have never fasted for more than twenty four hours. But people that fast for, like, three days, they all talk about how great they feel at the end. You feel euphoric and incredible and, like, you have so much energy. I’m ai, that sounds nuts. It sounds like you should
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be fucking done. Yeah. Because Sai mean, I do get miserable sometimes of like Yeah. Ai, I could just eat a fucking steak.
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I hold it off. I hold off the idea of of fasting because, like, I make all these excuses for myself, like, oh, I’ve gotta do my show. I gotta I’m it’s important. I can’t be out of it. Yeah.
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And that’s for meh, I I don’t have any, like, stringent routine of, like, I’m not allowed to fucking eat something. It’s just the routine that I’ve got into now to where it’s, like, I just sit down and work. But that kinda probably helps a little bit too because of that mind state of like Right.
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I don’t really if when I’m in the mode of painting, like, I don’t have to go to the bathroom. I I I’m not hungry. Do you
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drink coffee or anything while you’re doing that?
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Yeah. Yeah. I I drink espresso during the day. Or, like, I meh a quad espresso and then it just ai of lasts most of the day, you know, tyler, like, noon or whatever. Mhmm. And that I mean, that keeps me kind of on the level, I suppose. Because there is some fat in there and, like, the caffeine obviously helps.
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Yeah. It’s a little it’s a little something. Yeah. Yeah. Caffeine helps with hunger. But I think that what you’re saying that the focus is probably the big thing, that you’re just so locked into what you’re doing that you’re not
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even Yeah. It’s like I’m not even in my body anymore. It’s like the the body is separated from the mind in some way.
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That thing that you were talking about earlier, that is such a weird thing. The where it feels like the whatever you’re working on just sort of takes over.
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To me, it’s something subconscious. Because, like, the way I I look at jujitsu or painting or any real art form as, creative problem solving. So what for me, all of those things, like, it tickles the same part of my bryden. Mhmm. To where the like, I’ll ask myself questions.
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Like, it tends to be, like, you have to ask yourself the right questions. Like, I’ve had like, I don’t know how to use how to fix a car to save my life. But I’ve had to fix some shit to where I’m, like, what should I do here? Or, like, you know, you’ll just try something. But it’s almost like a subconscious, voice. Like Sai was saying, how the painting will kinda tell me how to how to ai, where to go next.
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Uh-huh.
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To where I’m I don’t know an answer, but somehow Ai come up with it. Right? Just by kind of asking my brain, you know, what what should we do here? And it’s it’s it’s always ai fascinated me that Ai I’ll it’s like my brain comes up with solutions to these problems by, you know, running some computation of, like, well, if we did this, this will happen.
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If we did that, this will happen. Mhmm. And I’ll come up with ideas that are like, I don’t have. There aren’t conscious ideas or thoughts. Right.
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That seep in from some depth in my brain that it’s ai I’ve in it’s not my control. It’s it’s not like a like a brag.
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Right. Right. Right.
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It’s like some some way of thinking that I can get solutions to problems that I don’t know the solution to.
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Right. And you don’t feel like those solutions are yours.
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No. Yeah. That’s No. That’s yeah. Yeah. It comes from somewhere else. So it may and Ai like to think of it as, like, some part of my subconscious or some part of the brain that I’m not accessing in conscious reality that is coming up with answers. But it I’m I’m amazed by it all the ai.
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Like, if you’ve ever had, like like, a light that wasn’t working in your house ai, but if you, like, flip the switch three times and then, like, turn the fucking heater on, somehow the light comes on. You know what I mean? Like I don’t mean you figure out these ways to to accomplish a a a task or figuring out a solution to a problem.
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And for me, I feel like with painting and jujitsu or now anything, like, I remember I I pinched a nerve in my neck, like, bad to where it’s ai Sai couldn’t even sit up. And I was like, how the fuck am I gonna get out of bed? And just ended up, like, picking my leg up, hooking my arm behind my leg, and doing, like, a jiu jitsu thing to, like, sit myself up because I couldn’t, like, actually sai myself up.
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And I was, like, I’ve never done that before. That’s so fucking strange. But, ai, like, my brain just told me to do that.
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Well, that makes sense though. You know how to use your body from jiu jitsu, and this
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would be a way to get
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up without using your abs.
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Yeah. Yeah. But there’s all ai of like like fixing the fucking car. Like, I I don’t know what I’m doing, but this seems to be, like, my brain telling me, maybe try this. You know. And with with all of these processes of, you know, martial arts and painting, just some creative problem solving aspect of the brain that’s almost separated from Yeah.
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And and gets nurtured with use.
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Yeah. It builds. Oh, yeah. Ai, it gets strong.
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Well, this is what Pressfield talks about when he talks about summoning the muse. You know, when he wrote did you ever read the book, The War of Art? I haven’t. I’ve got a copy. I’ll give you a copy of it. Okay. He gave me a box of them.
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Because I I used to have
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a box of them on the desk in the old studio that I sana out to people. But it’s a short read, but it’s an amazing read on this concept of the muse. And that, like, treating this thing ai you’re a professional, you you’re gonna show up at this time, and you’re gonna summon the muse.
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Yeah. And you’re
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gonna do it with sincerity. And if you do that, and you show up every day, it’ll work. Yeah. And it really does.
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That’s what I do. Yeah. That’s exact I mean, I I live that. Like, I get up, get coffee, I go to the studio. And I’m there until it’s time to leave, then I go teach at night, and then I’d I speak the whole process. Yeah. And it’s joy. Like, there isn’t a lot of like, I I probably have a bit of a short attention span to where, like, things can get fucking boring.
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But obviously not painting.
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No. I I leave after a long day, and I feel myself feeling guilty that I’m not still there.
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Wow. You see, that’s why I have a problem when people use that term ADHD. Because I think about myself as a boy and I’m like, I know they would have fucking diagnosed me. If I had the wrong parents
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Yeah.
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I know they would have diagnosed me and they would have brought me to a doctor who would have put me on some fucking medication Yeah.
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And it would
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have ruined whatever weird quality that I have that lets me focus on things intensely.
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Yeah.
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You know, they wanna pretend that everybody has to be the same thing. Like, everybody can’t be the same thing. We’re we’re all wired different. I’m not wired normal. I’m wired like if what you’re saying is boring, I’m like, oh, God.
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Yeah. How ai Sai get
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out of here now? I know some people that
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are gonna, well, so what are you gonna do about that, Fred? They can have
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the boringest fucking conversations all day. I literally feel physical pain. When I’m being bored. But if I find something that’s really interesting, ai, really interesting, I can lock on.
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Yeah.
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And when I lock on to that, I have no problem paying attention.
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And that’s a fucking superpower.
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I think so. And I think they’re fucking kids up, man. And I think there there’s a lot of lazy parents that don’t wanna deal with this extraordinary child that has this weird thing that you haven’t harnessed. Yeah. And you’re putting that kid on fucking speed. They’re putting them on Ritalin shit.
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That’s they were gonna try to give me Ritalin when I was a kid. You know, I wasn’t a spazzy kid. I wasn’t it just I was bored as fuck by what, like, whatever they were trying to do in school.
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You’re an arya. Yeah. But no one can recognize that. It’s they want it’s almost like they wanna pretend that that is not a real option for a human. But why are there so many artists? No. I know. Like, what are you saying? How how is that possible that you want everybody to fit into this fucking square peg?
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How is it possible that you’re teaching and a kid comes along and he’s bouncing off the wall, but that motherfucker can play video games like an assassin. I go, okay. Yeah. Clearly, there’s something going on with the video games that you’re not providing him in the real world and his ability to excel at video games shows he’s extraordinary. Yeah.
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It’s just about focusing that. Yeah.
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If you
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take some little girl who just wants to talk to her friends and joke around in class and you fucking medicate her, she could have probably been an amazing artist. She maybe she would have found a subject that she just ai, some kind of a science subject shah locks onto, and now all of a sudden that thing doesn’t exist anymore.
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It’s not like she scattered all no. She’s just bored.
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Yeah.
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What you’re doing is boring. Your class is fucking boring. You have uninspired teachers who are underpaid. No one gives a fuck about them. They’re basically babysitters
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Yeah.
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And you’re bored. And because the teacher doesn’t wanna deal with you being bored, they tell the principal, the principal tells the doctor, the doctor recommends another doctor, and then a little Billy is sitting there in his fucking doctor’s office, and then they pop him full of Ritalin.
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I had Henry Rollins on the podcast once, and he’s telling me they put him on Ritalin when he was a little kid. Yeah. He said he was just fucking like, like, all day long. I’m like, goddamn, man. That’s so nuts.
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Yeah. I remember seeing those kids too. Yeah. They just, like, fucking spun out. Spun
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out. And now they’re all on Adderall, man.
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Yeah. And that’s fucking
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Bro. There’s a ton of young kids out there in the world that do not have a problem. And they’re on Adderall because it helps them concentrate. It helps their scores for college. Yeah. 100%. I guarantee it. There are kids out there in high school right now that are popping Adderall all the time sai that they could do better on tests, so they could do better in college.
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And then they’re taking Xanax to come down off the fucking Adderall, like, so terrible. So fucking terrible.
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It’s fucking terrible. And, you know, these pharmaceutical drug companies are just vampires. Yeah. This is what you need. This is what you need, Mike.
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Seeing the fucking commercials, like, during
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your show you wanna be happy? Don’t you wanna dance in a wheat field with your child? Don’t you wanna go to the barbecue? Actually Look, everyone’s at the barbecue. They’re happy. Everybody’s happy. Happy. Yeah. Don’t you wanna go to the barbecue? Yeah.
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First thing finding the thing that is actually gonna bring you joy.
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Yeah. My friend, Sana Mott, has a a great, bit about it. I don’t wanna give it up, but it’s sai great bit if you ever see him at the Mothership. Did you see him?
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I caught the very tail end of his set when I got there.
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He’s got
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a great bit about Great guy.
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Arya he’s great. He’s got a he’s a funny dude too. He’s been my friend since he was a door guy at the Comedy Store. So it’s, so interesting to see him, like, from a very raw beginner
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Yeah.
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You know, to where he is now.
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I mean, you get you’ve gotten to see a lot of that. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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All the guys All the guys
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Ari and Joey and yeah. Duncan. All those guys.
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Yeah. Pretty wild.
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Oh, it’s
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Even seeing that how the comedy scene has kinda started to flourish here and kinda, like, build it, like, that little Sixth Street, way there is pretty wild.
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Oh, dude. There’s five full time comic clubs. Yeah. Right there.
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I Ai I hung out with my buddy Roy, yesterday. And I I feel like I meh, like, four or five comics just, like, standing around figuring out what we’re gonna do.
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It’s the hub, and it’s also this is the most important thing. It’s the hub for development of young people. It gives young people a real pathway, a real possibility. And we set it up that way on purpose. Like, this is the idea. Ai like, you cannot have a sustainable comedy community without new members.
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Yeah. Yeah. I I I find a little Emmy, in that, like, with that’s a little tougher in the, like, visual arts world is because we’re so fucking isolated. Mhmm. We’re not, like, hanging out at the same spots all the time. And it’s, like, that’s how things used to be, like, back in the day.
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Like, the arya would all go to the same bar after they’re done working
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for the day. Right. Like, have an artist neighborhood. Yeah. And, ai, LA had a bunch of neighborhoods where a lot of artists lived together.
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Yeah. I mean, LA is a little bit different from besides New York than the rest of the the the art world. It’s ai if you’re not in one of those two or three hubs, like, you’re you’re kinda isolated. Mhmm. You’re, like, outside of that realm. Meaning, we don’t have that opportunity. I I I really, like, enjoy that aspect of the comedy community.
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Towards, like, you see everybody meeting up, like, they see each other every day. They hug. They talk over shit. They can, like, kinda workshop stuff with each other. Like, having that ability is is or, like, that community in that aspect is so powerful.
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Ai. It’s so nice. And so when you were there, it’s, like, perfect setup. Like, Shane Gillis was there. Ron White was there, Bryden I got
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to talk with Ron for a while.
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He’s the best. Yeah. He’s the best. He’s such a fucking character.
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Yeah. So
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Tony was there. It’s sai we have this beautiful community. But it’s also like the young people. The young people coming up, they’re good, man. Yeah. They’re good and they’re hungry and they’re focused and they ai that there’s a real pathway. So because we meh it up sai we have two nights of open mic nights, which is really important. Yeah.
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Like, you have to have chances for people to get on stage for the first time and and just chances to just develop. Yeah. You just got a few minutes, you go up there, you tell a couple of jokes, try it again next speak, try it down the street, try it over here, try it over there.
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And if you wanna do it, if you really wanna do it, there’s a bunch of people that are also doing it here. So there’s ai a great community and it’s pretty fucking positive, man. Everybody’s pretty. Instead of being cutthroat and backstabby, everybody’s real supportive.
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Big difference from LA. Right? Big difference. Like, Sai noticed just the sort of, like, every interaction I had while I was here for just three days just felt so genuine. Like, not like somebody’s trying to get something from you. There are regular folks out here. Everybody just seemed, like, so laid back and chill. And they’re they’re focused.
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Regular humans. What we were dealing with in Los Angeles was some amazing people. I miss there’s a lot of amazing people in LA, but the overall vibe of the city was a vibe of you were trying to stand out from everybody else and get famous.
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Yeah. You could feel it. You could feel it. Yeah. Ai I mean, growing up in San Diego, like, I’ve spent a lot of time in LA. Like, I could sense the feeling of, like, everybody like, it felt like everybody was trying to do something. Yes. Like, every single person you saw on the street was up to something.
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And then it got real weird when reality TV came along because you didn’t have to have any talent. So it used to be you wanted to be an actor. And people that didn’t didn’t have any act talent in acting, you couldn’t convince them ai. They thought they could do it. Everybody thought they could act.
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Because acting is essentially just talking. It’s just pretending to talk when, you you know, like, you know
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Some people do it so badly.
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So bad. But they don’t think they
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do. Right? So
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it’s a but it’s a thing that you can’t discern. In a way, it’s a little bit like comedy. Like, you see a guy like Ron White tell a story on stage and it’s so effortless and hilarious that you think, oh, he’s not even trying. I can do that. I I tell stories. My stories are good too. And you think you could go do it because you don’t understand what’s actually happening.
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Yeah.
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It’s just confusing you. It’s tricking you.
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Well, that whole routine, like, the idea of, ai, like, writing a monologue seems so obscure to me. Like, I feel like I can be funny in a scenario where it’s, like, people are talking and you have something to bounce off of. Yeah. But to get up there and do a monologue by yourself, like, that it it feels so alien to me.
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To you, because you’re smart. But to a dumb dude who sees that, he’s ai, I could do comedy. And sai, there was all these people that were just looking at comedy and also looking at acting as a pathway to getting attention. Yeah. And then, it really got fucked with social media. Sai, when I was leaving, but but ai a year or two before I left, I was already thinking about leaving.
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I was like, I gotta get out of here. And then, I remember Sai was at a steak house and these people were there and people were taking pictures of them. I’m like, what is this? And someone said, Ai don’t even think it was a TikTok influencer. I think it was a Vine influencer. Ai, this is a Vine influencer.
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I was like, what does that mean? Like, what do they do? And it’s like, oh, they dance. They dance around and ai people are here. I’m like, what are you talking about? Like, this is nuts. So it became another way that you could get famous.
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You could just fame get famous by doing pranks or being obnoxious or, you know, taking your clothes off and yelling in traffic, like and so everybody was just trying to get famous. When you get out of there, you come to a place like Austin, there’s this relaxation because they’re just people. Yeah. All that’s gone.
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No one here is trying to get famous. It’s very rare that someone’s trying to get famous. And then, if you can insert a comedy community there that really values the process and the results of the arya. That’s what we’re really all about. We’re really all about killing. All that other stuff comes.
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The reason why Shane Gillis is the number one comic in the world is because he works hard and he’s really fucking funny and the process yields an amazing result.
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And he’s so sincere.
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Super sincere. But the point is, like, he doesn’t give a fuck about fame. Like, he’s not trying to get famous.
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Yeah.
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I know him. Yeah. Like, it’s just not something that happened. Well, we were joking ai. Bro, fame sucks.
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Ai, we’re in the we’re in
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the green room the other night talking about how how much fame sucks in some ways. I’m like, you can handle it. You’ll be fine. You’re gonna handle it.
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Yeah. It’s such a different experience. Like, as a as a painter, like, nobody really fucking knows what you look like most of the time. They do now, bitch. They have fun. Oops.
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Oops. I spilled coffee. Shah. Not meh, luckily. I was almost out.
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But there’s some, like, sense of stress Yeah.
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To that. I
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ai, I’ve even experienced it a little bit with, like, hanging out with you a couple ai of, like, people coming up. Ai like, fuck. This is so weird. Like, why like, why do people act like this? Like, around the celebrity.
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They get weird. But that’s the thing also that people like about being famous. They want people to be uncomfortable around them. They wanna be extraordinary without even trying. Yeah. You know? It’s a it’s a weird thing, man. It’s a weird thing that has existed with royalty. You know, it’s ai of the same thing.
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It’s ai this desire that people have to be exceptional and stand above everyone else for almost no reason. And the the fame thing in Hollywood was the thing that was holding, the art form of comedy back too because it was this velvet prison that existed. That if you were a good boy or a good girl and you drew between the lines and you didn’t say anything too crazy, you could get a sitcom or you could get a TV show.
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You could
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I mean, I’ve seen that.
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Ai
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where people just, like People who wanna be actors take that comedy route.
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Yeah. You
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know, do you see
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really good comics tone their shit down. They don’t say what they actually think is funny anymore.
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Yeah.
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They say what they think they can get away with and still get a TV show.
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Well, that’s something that I noticed at the the show of, like, having everybody’s phones in the Faraday bags or whatever those are, like, allows people to be a little bit more honest and It does. And direct or, like, really say what they wanna say.
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And more importantly, it allows the audience to totally lock in. Yeah. Because for a lot of these people, it’s the only two hours of their whole life where they’re not gonna be on their phone.
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No. I know. Other than sleeping,
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you know, when you’re when you’re locked in and you’re at a live show, it’s so fun. It’s so good. It’s the it’s the correct move for everybody. It’s a correct move because, of course, everyone is working on new material and you don’t sana get released before it’s done because new material takes forever.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It’s ai, it’ll take months for a bit to and sometimes it sucks at first or you it’s offensive, ai, something’s wrong with that.
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You gotta
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I gotta figure out a way that people are not mad because Ai that’s not what I’m trying to say.
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Yeah.
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And you could figure it out, but it just takes a bunch of different iterations. And if someone fucking videotapes it and puts it up Yeah. It’s ai they did with Louis CK when he first came back. It screws up the whole process. It’s ai you’re ruining that for literally millions of people because it’s eventually gonna get on Netflix and and people are gonna see it, but it’s gonna take time.
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It’s not Yeah. It’s not a simple process, and we have to do it in front of people.
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That’s the interesting thing thing about that art form too. Like, you gotta work shit
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out. In front of humans.
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Yeah. It’s not it’s I’m sure what what like, the writing process in your head feels so much different.
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Yeah. There’s a lot of processes. There’s the on stage writing process. There’s the writing process in your head, and there’s the idea process, which is the trickiest one. Because the the the most difficult thing with comedy, really, is coming up with a subject that’s actually interesting to you. Yeah. Where you really find humor in it.
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And if those are the ones when I can really find humor in something, like, that’s the ones that I dig into the most because I’m enjoying the shit out of the whole process of, like, uncovering all the ridiculousness. But it has to be something where I’m like, what?
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That’s how it is with painting too. Like, I’m I’m entertaining myself first. Sure. And then, hopefully, that connects with people somewhere.
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Yeah. I think it’s all together. I think tattooists are like that. I think musicians are like that. I think it’s the Miyamoto Musashi quote. Once you understand the way broadly, you see it in all things.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s beautiful. It is beautiful.
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Because I think you probably see it in the other things that you do. You see it in your art. You see it in Jiu Jitsu. And there’s people out there that are they’re seeing it in writing. They’re seeing it in sculpture. Whatever you there’s a thing whatever it is that allows you to get really good at the thing that you love.
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That thing takes over while you’re doing it, and you’re almost not there anymore. You’re almost like a passenger.
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Yeah. Yeah. And that’s when you know you hit the good spot.
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Mhmm.
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Like, if, I’m a big Bukowski fan. And on on his on his gravestone, it says don’t try. Like, that’s the insignia, and then it’s like a pair of boxing gloves.
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Another guy, famous drunk.
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That’s I’ve all of my favorite writers are self destructive. I don’t know I don’t know why, but they are.
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Oh, I found this the other day about Hemingway. Hemingway always thought that the FBI was, trying to get him. And apparently apparently, they actually were.
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Really?
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Yeah. They actually were. He he thought that he was here, I’ll send this to you, Jamie. Ai saw it. You saw it? I saw it. It was like a meme going around the other day. Oh, here it goes. The FBI investigated Ernest Hemingway for decades with surveillance beginning in the nineteen forties due to concerns about his activities in Cuba and his associations with individuals suspected of communist ties.
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01:09:42
While initially dismissed as paranoia, it was later revealed that Hemingway’s fears were grounded in reality, and the FBI did monitor him, even tapping his phones and intercepting his mail. The surveillance continued throughout his later years, including his time in the hospital and may have contributed to his mental anguish and suicide.
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Damn.
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Yeah. You can’t fucking what about booze? Yeah. And drink your depression. Severe depression. 42 to ’74, they studied them. What did you learn?
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That’s wild. What a crazy That’s that thing. There’s that, like, there’s a meme or, like, somebody saying that, like, you have to beware of the artist because they associate with everybody. You know? Like, they’re not just locked into, like, an upper class society. Like, they’re, ai, even, like, where I was staying, like, I made friends with, like, three or four homeless guys just out on the street that I just kept seeing around town from being around, you know?
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Like like, we associate with everybody. There’s no, like, hierarchy of, of class.
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Well, I think if you really wanna be open, like, really open, you have to encounter a lot of different kinds of humans.
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Yeah.
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You know, if you really like, if you especially if you’re a comic, because you sana or a ai. If you wanna understand people, you have to interact with them.
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Yeah. Because if you especially as a writer, like, you only have your own experience. Yeah. If you just write your own experience, it’s just gonna come off as, like, every character is you.
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Exactly. Like,
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to put yourself in the head of somebody else
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is
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Yeah. Like, you have to be open.
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01:11:14
Yeah. You have
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to be. And have, like, a a certain form of of empathy.
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Right.
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To even understand how somebody else feels.
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Well, that’s why there’s the contradiction of the star comedian. Like, that’s where things get weird. Like, the star comedian. Because if you’re a star and everybody’s cheering you, oh, Jerry Ai here.
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Yeah. Ai.
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Take the pictures like you’re walking the red carpet and you’re ai, you gotta be down with the people. You gotta be in the nitty gritty.
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Yeah. You gotta find some trenches somewhere.
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You better figure out the trenches because if you don’t, and Ai think if you think about ai my favorite comedians, they were all self destructive too. Yeah. All of them. Richard Ai, Hoover lit himself on ai. Like, that’s about a self destructive
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guess. Yeah.
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Kinison, cocaine and alcohol, Hicks, lots of drugs, and then cigarettes till he got pancreatic cancer.
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Yep.
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They were all vatsal least some way fighting some fucking thing inside their head.
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Yeah. It makes me wonder, like, how much of it is, like, maybe that empathy is too meh. Maybe ram maybe you feel too much, you know, and you gotta you gotta kind of disemit.
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There’s the there’s just the stress of the job itself.
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Yeah. Like Especially when you find success.
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Right.
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Because you gotta keep that.
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You gotta also still be putting out new stuff. Yeah. So you got a chance to see meh. I’m this is all new stuff. Ai. This is stuff that didn’t it wasn’t on my Netflix speak. Sai it’s all in development. It’s all ai and that process is it’s ai. I love it. Don’t get me wrong. But, like, before I go on stage, I’m amped up. I’m pacing. I’m moving around. I’m listening to Nas. I got some music playing.
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I’m getting my dance on. I’m having an espresso. I’m fucking breathing. I’m like, Ai wanna get ready.
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That’s how Ai always feel a little awkward in the green ram. Like, I don’t wanna be too, like, I’ll be like, sai.
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01:13:07
Listen, you’re cool in the green room.
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You know how to handle green rooms.
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There’s some dudes that are a real problem. Yeah. Some dudes that start telling really terrible stories in the green ram. You’re like, oh my god. This is so boring. We gotta get a movie. But the green room is supposed to be just for comics, you know. And sometimes people will bring in people that are not supposed to be in the green ram.
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And, ai,
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I was actually telling a story about that yesterday when we were all at, the American Comedy Co in San Diego when Doug was doing that, Doug Benson was doing the Chronic Con documentary. Mhmm. Do you remember that?
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Not really.
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It’s a fucking long ass time ago. But some guy came in who I don’t know, like a fucking investor, ai, somebody besides shaving.
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Coked up. Right?
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I don’t know. But he grabbed a Bud Light bottle as though it was a bong. He was ai, where’s the weed? And, like like, he was gonna, like, smoke a bong load out of this Bud Light beer bottle, drop the bottle, broke it everywhere, like, made a fucking scene. Everyone’s like,
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who the fuck is this guy?
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Like, what is going on? Like, just the, like, way that people wax so fucking strange when they feel almost like they have to perform, but their performance is horrible.
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Well, I don’t think it’s that. I think that is that guy was on drugs, I think.
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And then,
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also, I think they get anxious.
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They get a documentary.
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They get anxious. Right? Yeah. People just get weird. They don’t know what to do.
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Yeah. We’re fucking strange.
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There’s a lot of fucking people that are barely keeping it together out there, dude.
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So now Ai think that’s me, but just just barely hanging on, you know?
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01:14:38
No. You’re fine. Yeah. You’re fine. But I think every artist feels like that. Yeah. You Ai Every artist feels like is one thing that they could do one day that’s gonna ruin their fucking life. They’re always like that close to just it’s all just like this keeping it together thing that you have in your mind, you know.
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And you have to have you have to have some process that you do that keeps you on the work and not on the self destructive path.
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Yeah.
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Because if you’re a person that, like, maybe has a drug issue and you’re fighting that off and as long as you work all the time, like, you’re cool. Ai, you but then, if you wake up late that one day and you’re ai, fucking one hit, Ai be good for through just one little fucking just a little tipsy.
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I could stop. In the beginning, I was only doing it every now and then. Yeah. You know, I can just go back to just ai in moderation. I think it’s good. You know, it really gives me a little pep up when I need it. Addiction is fine. Maybe a doctor gives you a little Adderall.
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Ai, the
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Adderall is good, but two pills is better. Three pills is really
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I get so productive. I think I’d get my company off the ground. If I ai just really concentrate with these three pills.
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Yeah. Yeah. And then then you then you’re fucked.
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Then you’re fucked. So it’s ai it’s this balance that we all have, and it’s not just artists. It’s just people in life. It’s just It’s
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01:15:53
like dealing with insecurities. Whatever the insecurity is, you could fucking mask it with, you know, some drug or alcohol or whatever. Or you could lean into it and be ai, okay, I feel this way. I I accept that. What can I do?
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01:16:07
I think the problem is the term insecurity. Because, like, good lord, everything is insecure. Ai, the secure things, a lot of secure things are really boring. I mean, these secure things that are awesome, you know? Yeah. But there’s a a lot of that that’s it’s that’s not what it is. It’s uncertainty.
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Uncertainty is what freaks you out. Yeah. The the options that are possible. The things that the possible results, the variables, all the different things.
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Yeah. And that’s gonna handcuff plenty of people.
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But you gotta learn how to handle that.
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Yeah.
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You know, I used to when I was teaching ai I was teaching martial arts, I taught a lot of kids and I had a lot of kids compete in tournaments. I really love doing that. Ai really loved it when they really got into it and they got better and I could see them improving and then winning tournaments.
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It was amazing. But I remember I would some kids would really struggle with competition. And I would tell them that’s because you’re smart. And I go, you see these people that are not worried about this, they don’t know what can happen to them. Yeah. They’re delusional.
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They think they’re gonna be okay no matter what. But you’re smart. You know that this is dangerous.
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Yeah.
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That’s good. You just have you gotta use that. You gotta just hang on to it. Use it. And then get in there and you’ll be fine. Once it once the fight starts, you’re not gonna be scared anymore, which is weird. Yeah. Then when the fight starts, then it’s Hate
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Jesus to exist?
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It’s just happening. It’s just happening, and it’s all automatic. And it’s all your you know, you have instincts and you have an understanding of the game, but you also have just just dialed in technique. That’s all it is. It’s all about the execution of all the things you’ve practiced and it all just happens. But the lead up is so bad.
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The anxiety before when you sai in a locker room waiting for your time, you’re like, fuck.
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And and
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I would just tell them, I would go just you gotta understand this sucks, but this is just something. If you just can accept that this is here, accept that it’s here, and and recognize that this is a gift, and this is here because you’re smart. And the reason why you’re worried about all these possibilities is because you’re intelligent enough to recognize that that’s the thing.
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Yeah. You’re looking for the outcomes and then figuring out way that’s kinda what I was talking about before, ai, predicting outcomes and figuring out solutions to problems that have yet to occur. Yeah. Like, when you’re thinking that far ahead, like, that’s it’s a different chess game.
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01:18:34
Yeah. And you and the dull minded nitwits out there that don’t have any fear. There’s a reason they don’t have any fear, because they don’t have the capacity to comprehend all the possibilities. Yeah. So if some ai, like, doesn’t know how to fight at all, you’ve seen this a 100 times Yeah. On videos ai.
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01:18:50
And he gets in someone’s face and that ai like, bang. Just cracks him, like, that dull minded shithead, he is not the fearful one. He’s not the he’s not the intelligent one. The intelligent people are fearful. You should be fearful. It’s good. Yeah. It helps you. Yeah.
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01:19:08
Especially, if you’re about to do something difficult. And you should do difficult shit because it teaches you about yourself. And if you don’t learn about yourself, you’re always gonna wonder. And that’s the problem with ai a lot of men in the world. A lot of chest puffy, a lot of ai fucking really arrogant aggressive people, like, it’s because they don’t know themselves.
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Yeah.
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So they’re trying to impose a version of themselves on other people to be respected. Yeah. You know? You find this in these fucking ai business CEOs and execs who are like really aggressive and they weigh eighty pounds ai this is what this is. It’s like they’re they’re finding a way to try to figure out who the fuck they are. They don’t even know themselves.
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That’s one of the things Ai, like, I I fucking know myself. Like, speak so much time with myself in, like, a clear sort of frame of thought, knowing my limitations, knowing what I’ve accomplished when I was even more limited, like, if anything, that’s I think this whole process is
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01:20:08
That’s the difference. Tyler process between an artist and, like, sai, someone who wants to be famous or somebody who wants to be worshiped. Someone who wants to be the head of a company or the president of The United States or somebody who wants to be beyond reproach.
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Nobody who wants to be president should ever be president.
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A 100%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It should be but then again, you know, if you have ai some some truly benevolent dictator that we’re all waiting for. We’re all waiting for, ai, the benevolent leader who’s just gonna take control of it, but do it for the people. You know, Marcus Aurelius, some Yeah. Someone who just really really does have the people’s best wishes in mind.
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01:20:47
Human greed is too fucking strong.
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It’s too strong. And anybody that’s willing to go through that process, that brutal process, you know, like, all the stuff that’s in the news today. I mean, there’s still there’s possible legal ramifications of things that happened in the two thousand sixteen election that we’re hearing about today.
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Yeah.
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It’s ai these people are gross.
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Like Yeah. The whole thing.
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01:21:11
It’s it’s the opposite of the Austin comedy community. So, like, if we had to choose a president of the Austin comedy community, it wouldn’t be that hard. Like, whoever wins is great, you know. Yeah. If Shane wins, great. If Duncan wins, great. Who are you gonna elect? Who cares?
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Yeah.
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01:21:31
Everyone’s cool. But the the presidential world is like, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. You have the backings of enormous, enormous military industrial complex Yeah. Corporations, enormous amounts of money, Pentagon budgets beyond comprehension.
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Yeah.
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01:21:50
It’s gonna be a trillion dollars this year. And what
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does that even fucking mean?
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01:21:54
What does this mean? So, like, the the the the ability to be at the helm of that, like, there’s gonna be no cooperation with the left and the ai, and and you’re seeing what happens when one group gets into power. What’s the first thing they do? Like, what did they do when they got into power? They immediately went after Trump.
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01:22:12
They hit him with a ton of different fucking legal charges. Most of them didn’t make any sense. The fuck the all the crazy shit about overestimating his property in Mar A Lago, ai, that is the the way they were using the law is ai, oh meh god. You people are gross. Yeah. On both ai. On both fucking sides.
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That’s the whole system is so fucking corrupted. And it’s so obvious, like, we’re at a stage where, like, we have enough information to see Yeah. Like, that how much greed and money just corrupts the system.
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But we I don’t think we really got to see it until Trump ran. I think you got to see it unveiled in a way when Trump ran that you never got to see before. Because also, you got the rise of independent journalism that happens at the same time.
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Yeah. So you
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have people that record report just on the facts, not like this CNN fucking lean or the Fox News lean, but just ai just reports on exactly what’s happening and how it happened. That just didn’t exist before. So you get an under if you’re paying attention and you follow those people and a lot more people are than ever before, you get a way different understanding of how gross this game is.
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Yeah.
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And because the guy was so polarizing and because he was such an easy guy to turn into a Sai, ai, you like you pointed to him, you’re like, this is the this is our fuck him. Look out of the way he talks.
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Yeah.
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He’s he’s gonna ruin the world. It’s a threat to democracy. We could do anything we can to stop him. So what do they do? They stop all our primaries. They they don’t have real primaries anymore. They haven’t had a real primary since 02/2012.
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Yeah.
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They rig them. They rig it with Bernie Sanders. They rig it with RFK Junior. You know, they’re just the whole business is gross. It’s gross.
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I wish us as humans were all, like, together enough to just self govern.
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You would need you would need people to enter into politics at the highest level that didn’t need the money and really were good people that really wanted to just change the tone of how everything is governed. And that’s gonna be so hard to do because the money is so nuts. And that’s what I think?
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Do you
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see the Nancy Pelosi thing? The new one?
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Ai she was being interviewed and then was ai, I didn’t wanna talk about that.
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Yeah. Anderson Cooper. Yeah. You put that on. Anderson Cooper, he sneaks it in. She’s like, I came in here to talk about the anniversary of Medicaid. Like, she cares about Medicaid. She’s worth an estimated $400,000,000 now.
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How? What’s the salary? 70,000 a year?
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$170 a year, something like that. $200 a year maybe. You know, but watching the panic in her face realizing that Trump is now president and they’re they’re talking about literally going after her for insider trading and the undeniable evidence that they have had better results on the stock market than literally anyone ever
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Yeah.
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And they have access to information about laws are gonna be passed. Yeah. If that’s not insider trading
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What the fuck is And that’s what I mean. The the the the greed, the level of greed is so strong that you shah You got that video? Shah might even have good intentions getting into office.
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Shut the fuck up, bitch. Shut the fuck up. Or anybody. Any Shut your mouth.
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I feel like it’s a system
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that demons.
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That corrupts Yes. The minute you get in.
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I think so. I think if you wanna succeed, like, what happens, maybe you have these idealistic, ai know, perspectives on how politics works or what you can do in your contribution. And then you get in and you’re like, oh, Jesus.
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Yeah. It doesn’t work
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that way. To ai. You know? Ai, I’ve had candid conversations with Tulsa Gabbard about what it was ai. And she’s a person she was like tries to be friends with everybody, tries to reach across the aisles and she’s got that whole saloni spirit.
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Uh-huh.
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And she was like, it’s crazy. Like, it’s ai, the the just the the amount of back stabbing that’s going on. Like, when she got into office, like, first of all, you ai, like, you’re not really in control of everything because there’s another person who’s in control of each individual department, and they’ll stop whatever you’re trying to do every step of the way.
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They get in the way of everything. And what are you gonna do? You gonna replace everybody? And how are you gonna find qualified people to take those jobs? This ai been at that fucking he’s been the czar of this commission for twenty five years.
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Yeah.
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So he knows, like, all the ties and all the financial agreements. Here, let’s watch this because it’s so funny.
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Let me just read what he said. Ai sorry that that we had some sort of technical issue. Nancy Pelosi became rich.
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I might have to read that. We’re here to talk about the sixtieth anniversary of Medicaid. That’s what I agreed to come to talk
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about.
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But I wanted
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to that means in the election.
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I wanted to give you a chance just to respond. He accused you of insider trading. What’s your response to that?
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Yes. That’s ridiculous. In fact, Ai, very much support the stop the the trading of members of congress. Not that I think anybody’s doing anything wrong. If they are, they are prosecuted and they go to jail. But because of the, confidence it instills in the American people, don’t worry about this.
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But I have no concern about the obvious investments that had been made over time. I’m not into it. My husband is, but it isn’t anything to do with anything insider. But the president has his own exposure, so he’s always projecting. He’s always projecting.
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And let’s not give him any more time on that, please. We’re going forward here, and I’m very proud of my family. And while he might make fun of us, while somebody inspired by him breaks into our home and hits my ai in a deadly fashion, hits my husband over the head and he thinks that’s a ai, I’d rather not go into some of my other complaints about him right now.
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Rather to talk about the sixtieth anniversary of Meh.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. First of
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all, what crazy projection. She immediately turned herself into a victim. She immediately, like, went from and Jake Tapper’s like, what’s your response? Oh, ai is ridiculous. Nothing was ai. Nothing we have $400,000,000, whatever whatever. What’s really important is Trump inspired a man who broke like, first of all, how do you know?
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That guy was a literal crazy person that broke into that house.
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Yeah. That was a weird fucking thing too.
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He’s schizophrenic. He had a hammer. He smashed the back window. He broke into the house. Paul thought that he could talk the guy down. It looked like Paul had a drink in his hands, so he’s probably a little lit.
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Yeah.
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Probably a little more calm than he should have been. And then the cops are at the door, and the dude hits him in the head with a hammer. That guy was a crazy person. You’re blaming Donald Trump for that? No. That’s so nuts that you have gone from you made an insane amount of money.
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A lot of people say you’re insider trading. What’s your response to the job? Ai husband got hit in the head with
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a hair. Someone black ai at deflections.
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It’s funny. You know? It’s because they’ve it’s all because the president has a lot of exposure. Yeah. Well, okay.
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Because it’s funny Ram does the same shit with her. If he’s on the hot seat, Nancy Pelosi. Yeah. You know? It’s they all have that, like, natural deflection.
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Yeah, man. It’s like
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and it’s like we all fucking accept it somehow. Like, we might make fun of it or, like, be like because my bullshit meter goes off all the fucking time. Like, you’re fucking
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lying to me right now. Ai you can see it. There’s a reason why that whole ability to trade stocks is still in position, and it’s because they want it there. They make a shit ton of money. They have
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all the insider information.
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They have to figure out at what point in time is this too dangerous, and who’s willing to, like, make this a law? Who’s willing to change this? And are the what politicians are gonna sign our board for that because they’re actually voting against their own self interests.
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Yeah.
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Right? If they all decide, like, it’s like they’re playing chicken. Like, as long as they don’t do it Yeah. As long as they don’t do it, then they could still make a ton of money. But if you look at the numbers, like, if you look at, like, who’s making money on the stock market, it is not all Nancy Pelosi.
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It is meh, blue, red, blue, red, blue. It’s pretty much down the middle.
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Yeah. I mean, as long as you could skirt the the legalities, why would you not take information that you have gained and try to ai it to your improvement?
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And you’re hanging out with Harry, the senator from fucking South Dakota or whatever, and Harry’s got a yacht. Like, how did you get a yacht, Harry? Yeah. Like, you know, the Bobby’s got his own private jet. How’d you get your own jet, Bob? You’re a congressman. Like, what are you doing?
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And those people that are able to generate that kind of wealth, and I think she’s ai the the poster girl for it, unfortunately. But it’s not her like, who’s made the most? I was looking up Yeah. Let’s find that out.
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There’s an article here. I don’t know if this is officially the most, but there’s people that have made more than her.
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Yeah. I’m sure they have. Where does it say though?
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More than 20 meh here.
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Okay. More than 20 members made almost double the Sai and P 500 average gain, which is crazy. Yeah. So
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You tell me it’s ai point 5% more, but percentage more. Okay.
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David Rouser, Republican, North Carolina. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Democrat, Florida. Ron Wyden, Democrat, Oregon. Roger Williams, Republican, Texas. See, that’s the point. It’s, like, it’s not blue. It’s not red. It’s just corruption across the board. They’re all doing it. If you’re making more than 50%, that’s bananas. That’s bananas.
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Yeah.
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Like, what is their hold on. Scroll back down. Scroll down. Okay. Look at look at this. The Pelosi one, an almost cult like following for her financial disclosure sai the value of her household’s portfolio rise by 71% in recent years. Ai, that kind of trading is super unusual. Yeah. To make more than double the average gain of 24.9. So make more than 50%. That’s crazy. Nobody does that.
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No. And then how would you how do you how do you explain that?
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And how
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do you explain those decisions? Meh.
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When you look at the decisions, like, she dumps stock and then three months later, some big bill comes down the line that fucks that company. Yeah. She buys stock and then three months later, some big bill that comes down that, you know, they’re they’re funding for this new project. It’s crazy.
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More than a dozen US officials sold stocks before Trump’s tariffs sent the market plunging. Of course, they did.
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Yeah.
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Well, how about when Trump tweets out to ai? Remember that?
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That was part of this. Yeah.
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Oh, that’s crazy.
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Yeah.
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It’s ai Hey. Don’t do that. And it’s crazy that he’s in his own money too. How about that?
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And yet still, like, poor people are sitting here arguing about who’s the better person. Like, it’s fucking wild. Like, they’re all corrupt, and they’re all fucking us.
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Some less than others. Some are some are allowing us to talk.
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You know? Ai that’s I think that’s when you see, like, the South Park episode with Trump, like, I know we’re not we’re not in a fascist state yet. You know what I mean? Yes. Like, we’re still okay.
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Exactly. We’re still okay. As long as South Park exists, we’re okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, look look, it’s all weird, man. Because this system is completely fucked. It’s completely fucked. And we don’t want it to be, and they want it to stay the way it is. And so there’s this weird thing where they have to get elected. So to get elected, they have to say the things that we want them to say. Mhmm.
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And
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so then we believe it every year, ai, fucking Charlie Brown going to kick that football, loose, pulls it away. Can’t. Yeah. Yeah. But what’s the weirdest thing to me is that we’re in this complete shifting of the polls where the Republicans now are in favor of free speech. The Republicans wanna end the wars. They wanna stop contributing to foreign countries. They, you know, they’re they want comedy to be comedy again.
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They don’t want restrictions on people’s behavior and thinking.
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Yeah.
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And the Democrats have developed this sort of, like, cult like idea of what everyone should accept and what’s normal and what’s not normal and what needs to be what needs to be elevated in our population and what needs to be ignored. And it’s just ai, goddamn, you guys are you’re ruining it for everybody that thinks in a left way.
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Like, anybody who’s reasonable, ai, a reasonable left thinking person, which is most arya ai the way.
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Yeah. Of course.
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And then you get to this point where you’re like, no, I can’t go along with you on all these things.
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Yeah.
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You guys are you’re you’re just a bunch of fucking assholes who are using these subjects as a a way where you can behave incredibly shitty, incredibly uncharitable, like vicious, mean, ostracizing people from I don’t want any part of
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you.
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I don’t want any part of the way you guys think and behave. And you to to pretend that you’re doing it for good, you’re doing it for you’re gluing yourself to the wall for climate change. The fuck you are. Yeah. You’re just a nut. You’re just a crazy entitled nut and you’re fucking up society.
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Yeah.
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This is not the way that people should be behaving. And Ai can’t believe it makes people go to the and the the Republicans are smarter about it. And now, in this day and age because they’re like, hey, we’ll take in. Hey, it’s ai. Come over
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to us.
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You could say whatever you want. Comedy is back.
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It’s a big ebb and flow. To me, it’s like it’s like some weird natural balance of, like, things shift a little bit to the left. Yeah. Things shift a little bit to the right.
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But we gotta hold the center.
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If if we motherfuckers could just figure out, like, we’re so we have so much in common. People just generally who would be considered more left or more ai. And it’s just a few things Yeah. That really are the the basis of our our contention.
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Well, the real problem is the team aspect of it.
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That’s the it’s fucking retarded.
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Yeah. Sure. Retarded. Yeah. You can say it. Ai can’t you
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say it? I I Sai
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01:36:03
You’re joking.
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You’re joking. Yeah.
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Thank God you’re joking. Some people panic. Please edit that out. No. No. Retard’s back. It’s just, you know, I think it’s gonna take time, but I think we’re gonna eventually get to a place where we work it out. And my best hopes of AI this is my best hopes. Because it could just ruin the whole world and take over everything, and we could become slaves.
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Yeah.
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My my best hopes are it gets to a point of efficiency and intelligence where corruption like that is impossible. And it figures out a way to organize government spending in a way that actually helps us.
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Because that’s what we want. The left and the right both want, like, our tax dollars Yeah. To be used to benefit the like, everyone.
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01:36:50
Yes. Unless you’re running a business and you can get an advantage, and that’s where it gets gross. Because those people can
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That’s what I mean.
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Meh so much. And I think AI is probably gonna recognize that. It’s gonna say, listen, you wanna really fix this? You have to stop this competitive advantage.
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Well, it’s our ape genes. Right?
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Yeah.
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We’re we’re just fucking more advanced apes. Yep. That’s it. Yep. And we still have, you know, a tribal mentality that’s
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Mhmm.
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Encoded in our fucking DNA. And we have to we have to elevate above that. Yep. And that just takes, like, avoiding greed.
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Which also it’s ai what you do when you paint is you focus on creating this thing. Ai, this is what you’re focused on. What they’re focused on is numbers in a bank account.
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Mhmm.
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And they’re focused on getting those numbers in there.
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Yeah.
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And they’re fucking obsessed with getting those numbers in there. Yeah. So all those other steps that they do, ai, you’re trying to figure out your painting, you’re trying to like brush techniques and different things, you’re trying different angles, maybe shadowing it differently.
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Mhmm. What they’re doing is trying to figure out how to push this and push that and get this politician to make this legal. And that way, they can make more money. And then Nancy Pelosi is ai, we’re gonna pass it, Paul. Put in put in the wager. Because it’s basically wagering. Right?
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You know, put in the gambling.
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Ai the stocks. It’s gonna roll.
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But if you have all the cards marked Yeah.
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It is. And it’s, it’s fucking it’s a real unfortunate thing and how do you avoid that? Because you really you want corporations, you want them to make Apple fucking laptops and shit. Yeah. You want a Samsung TV. You want these things. Right?
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So how do you how do you motivate, how do you get people that are motivated to make the best products in the world and every year make them better and not have them think only about making money to the point where they’re willing to bribe politicians so that they can pollute a river in India.
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Yeah. And that’s what’s so different about artists. It’s ai, we I but Ai would make paintings my whole life. Nobody bought them. Nobody gave a shit about them. I would still make them and would give them away or put them in a fucking closet somewhere. Like, we for me, I saw, like, art as a way that maybe I could get out of, like, the area that I was in.
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Like, I could grow a little bit. But at the at the same time, like, doing the work was what was important, and what came with that was secondary. It was all just added bonus. Right. Right?
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So, like, if I worked if I was selling fucking wheels or car tires, like, I would only be thinking about the how much money can I make?
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Right. That’s the problem. Especially if it’s not if you’re not, like, a wheel and car tire enthusiast. It’s one thing Yeah.
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If you love it.
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01:39:29
Yeah. Ai, I know dudes who work on cars and they they fucking love it, especially builders. Yeah. Like meh friend Steve Strope, who’s been on the podcast before, who made my Nova.
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Uh-huh.
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That guy loves working on cars. He loves it. I mean, that is his arya, but he makes custom made cars and it’s ai to him, it’s just like making a song. It’s just like making a painting.
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Yeah.
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But when you’re only thinking about money, man, those are the people that are the hardest to hang out with. Like, you ever hang out with financial people? Like, you ever get stuck at a party in New York with a coked up financial guy?
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Have you seen this fucking, Derek Moneyburg fella?
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01:40:08
Oh, is he the jiu jitsu guy?
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Yeah. Ai his black belt in three and a half years.
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01:40:12
Right. But he is is he legit? Because he’s with legit people. So I can’t imagine Jake
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Shields is a savage. Like, all the respect And Jake
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says he’s legit?
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Ai think Jake gave him his black belt.
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Well, then he’s legit. There’s no way. I know Jake. There’s no way. Jake is his jujitsu is top of the food chain.
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Yeah.
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And Ai know Gordon is trained with him. I know all these other people trained with him.
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Yeah. I haven’t heard was over there with him.
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I haven’t heard anybody say anything negative. So here’s the thing. Someone who is, like, super rich, which apparently this guy is, who trains with the best trainers in the world and actually puts the time in every day. It’s super easy to dismiss someone because they’re rich. Super easy.
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Yeah.
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Zuckerberg is a primary example of that. Right? I know for a fact Zuckerberg trains really fucking hard.
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Yeah.
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And he goes with real ai. And he brings in people like Dave Camarillo trains with him. He’s trained with a ton of people.
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Yeah.
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So he takes it very seriously. He has access to incredible trainers and he’s an obsessive. He’s a very competitive obsessive person.
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Sure.
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So you could say, oh, he’s got $200,000,000,000. He can’t kick my ass. That dude will fuck you up. That nerdy dude will fuck you up, and it’s because he’s actually put in the time. Now, he doesn’t have the time that this Derek Moneybirt guy has.
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Yeah.
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If this guy’s got if he’s putting in, like, hours and hours every single day, which is what I heard, that he was, like, literally training multiple hours a day every fucking day at jujitsu. You can get to black belt level. I don’t know if he is, you know, but I know that if those guys say he is, I believe them.
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That’s ai I told somebody. I was like, let me just see him do an armbar from closed guard. Let me just see how how sloppy that is and then I’ll I’ll know for sure.
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01:41:55
Or not sloppy at all.
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Yeah. Then exactly.
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01:41:58
Right. Why doesn’t he just like show some drilling?
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That’s all it would take.
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01:42:01
You don’t even have to show me you rolling. Let me see some tight drills.
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Yeah. That’s all it would take. Yeah.
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01:42:06
Let me see you go through. But, you know, he doesn’t have to. But then again, you ai do have to if you project the fact that you’re doing that.
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Yeah. If you take some sort of, like, braggadocious sort of angle, like, three three years, seven months, got my black belt.
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01:42:20
Right. You should probably show something. Like, hey, let me show you guys. Yeah. You know? Because otherwise I mean,
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because when I start I was doing fucking two a day. Two a morning class, night class. And Yeah. You know, none of that came fucking fast for me.
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01:42:35
But you might not have been the most naturally athletic guy. True. Yeah. True. But night classes and day classes are great, but one on one is the ultimate. If you’re a guy like him and you can get John Donahue to coach you, you can get Gordon Ryan to coach you, you can get all those Jake Shields, all Sai mean, I’ve seen photos and videos of him from training sessions
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01:42:58
Yeah.
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01:42:58
With the best guys in the world.
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Yeah.
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01:42:59
So if you can get and you’re hiring them
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01:43:01
Yeah. It could be a cheat code or It’s
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a 100% a cheat code.
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Yeah.
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It’s 100% if you do it. Yeah. You actually do the work, it’s 100% a cheat code. Sure. But that’s the that’s the thing. Like, you have to actually be training, like, really hard. It’s not as simple as you know those guys, you talk to those guys, they give you the fucking secret handshake, and now you’re good at jiu
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jitsu. Right. The
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only way to get good at jiu jitsu is hard work. That’s it.
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Yeah. And I but I could never see somebody like Jake Shields, like, fucking giving out a belt that No. Wasn’t deserved.
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No. No. No. No. It’s like ai you hear Guy Ritchie is a black belt, you go, really? And then you hear he’s a Henzo Gracie black belt. You go, oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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He’s legit. Yeah. Yeah.
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He’s legit.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But there’s not a lot of fake jiu jitsu black belts out there, man.
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No. Ai feel like we used to see more of them back in the day. Oh, yeah. There’d be, like, those funny videos of, like, somebody just.
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Oh, Eddie caught a couple of those.
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Yeah.
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There’s a bunch of those videos where a guy shows up at a a school and he’s got a black belt on and then he rolls at people and he gets tortured.
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Yeah. That was, like, before YouTube existed or any social media existed. You kinda get away with it.
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Yeah. Well, I think people, they’ve they’re crazy. There’s certain people that are just completely schizophrenic, and they just
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Yeah. They
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get it in their head, and they just, you know.
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They’re not even trying to, like, con people. It’s just they really truly believe in what their their mind is telling them.
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Well, that might be possible, but I think there’s also a bunch of people that their whole life is a con. It’s like a series of lies from Yeah. Beginning to the end. It’s just they never live in the truth. And so for them to put on a black belt is just the latest of yes. I was reading about this guy that, like, said he was a doctor and, like, did surgery on people for years.
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He did.
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Yeah. His people that are nuts, man. There’s, one out of three pilots in I think it’s Pakistan doesn’t have a license.
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That’s fucking wild.
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They have fake licenses. Sai if that’s true. I I know I saved the article, but I don’t feel like going into my phone again. But it was ai, Jesus Christ. Like, imagine you’re on a plane and the guy doesn’t really know how to ai. Like Yeah. It’s fucking horrifying. Who’s he how does he figure out how to land that fucking thing?
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I mean Does he know how to pull out? The amount of intelligence to pull that off? Like, he probably could’ve got your fucking pilot’s license. Well, after you had a con
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a few successful flights, you you would think that the guy would just go ahead and get the license. Yeah.
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You’re you’re already doing the thing. That’s ai Sai see artists in art school. I’m like, you’re already making art. Yeah. You know how. There’s a story from five years ago, so I don’t know if it’s changed.
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Almost one in three pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses.
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They didn’t take the test or something. 262.
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Oh ai god. 262 pilots in the country did not take the exam themselves and had paid someone else to sit in on their behalf. They don’t have flying experience, he said. Pakistan has 860 active pilots serving in its domestic airlines, including the country’s Pakistan International Airlines flagship, as well as a number of foreign carriers. Oh ai god.
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How many crashes are they having?
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Ai mean, if they’re if they’re
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keeping them in the air?
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Right. Ambitious dudes. Yeah. Fuck.
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Sai ai sometimes you don’t need a diploma. You found that out because of a crash. Oh, whoopsies. Oh, shit. Yeah. Alright.
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Whoopsies. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. That’s so crazy. People are so nuts, man. If you let them be nuts, they will be nuts.
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Yeah. I think.
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Ai see you gotta you gotta have like, people don’t want any regulations. They want anarchy, like, shut your mouth. Shut up.
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I I have this idea of, like, an altruistic anarchism, where it’s, like, everybody just treats everybody kindly in the way that you would wanna be treated. That would be great. Yeah. But it’s sai it’s we’re the our fucking ape mind is there’s too many of us that are fucking nuts
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Yeah.
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And greedy and, like, just out for self. And I get it. Like, it makes sense. Like, there’s a lot of self preservation that comes with that. But if we could all just ai pull the clink is pull our shit together.
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Self preservation makes sense when you’re surrounded by a bunch of people that are also selfish. Right? That’s part of the problem. Yeah. It’s ai, if you if you get lucky and you find a good crew, like, early on in your life of people who are down with you, they’re your friends and they love you no matter what, Life is way easier.
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Yeah.
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It’s way easier. And there’s people out there that, man, they don’t fucking have that. They don’t they have a bunch of people around them that suck.
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Just ai a form of competition at all times.
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I mean, I’m a lucky person. I’m a very lucky person. But I think the biggest luck that I have is the people that I’ve meh. Ai friends. Yeah. Because it makes your life so much better.
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Well, I mean, it shows, like, how much you you support your friends too. Like like, the idea that if we can all get lifted up together versus I’m gonna step on your shoulders and work my way to the fucking top.
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Right. But not only that, but it also shows that this ai way works. Yeah. Like, you don’t it doesn’t hurt you to make other people successful or to help other people get more successful or to just to tell people they’re awesome and give them their, as the kids call, their flowers.
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That’s the kid. I I I struggle with that one. The young hip hop kids like to say that, give them their flowers. But, you know, used to be giving their props. But it’s like that if you really love that person, that’s good for everybody. That’s good for you too.
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Ai, the people that wanna step on that person to elevate themselves, like, you’re just ruining your own life. You’re you’re you’re missing the big picture.
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Yeah.
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And it’s not necessary. It’s not necessary even in a competitive ai. Even in something you’re competing, like your friends, these people that you’re competing with, they help you. Yeah. They really do.
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It’s almost a necessity.
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I think it’s a necessity with comedy for sure. Yeah. No. I always say this, that no great comedy exists in a vacuum. I mean, there’s people that have talent that are in the middle of nowhere and some real small local scene and they could become a great comic one day, but they’re not going to on their own.
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Yeah. They have to be around great comics. They can’t just see them on YouTube. They gotta see, like, Dave Attell ai. You know, you gotta see something like that where you’re, like, woah. You know, you gotta see Colin Quinn live.
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You gotta see these people that are masters and see the thing that they do and get inspired by it.
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Yeah. And And to start to learn it, ai, understand the process. Because, like, that’s what sai thing for meh, like, I I thought I was gonna be, like, like, do the Sunday comics in the newspaper, like, as a kid. Like, I didn’t know I didn’t know what people did to make money making art. Were you into comic books at all? Not really.
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But Ai, like, I was more leaning towards that kind of aspect Mhmm. Of, like, this is how you can survive, like, actually pay your bills and make art.
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But you just wanted to make art.
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Just wanted to make art. Right. And it took I I became an assistant for, a really well known artist who, you know, ran a design firm, did fine art, did, like, ran like, was just, like ai, at the top of his game. And I didn’t go to art school, but I saw what he was doing. And a couple other artists, like, in the same same arya, was ai, oh, okay.
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You’re you’re making paintings. You’re you’re working with these companies to do some design. That design money is going back into your art, practice. Like, it was just being able to see how something exists, and then knowing, like, okay, I could do that. Mhmm. Right?
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We’re we’re already doing the same process, but here is the sort of market of it. Here’s here’s how you ai, and here’s how you continue to grow and thrive.
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It’s how you become a professional.
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It’s how you become a professional. But Yeah. I mean, for if you’re, you know, in fucking Wyoming somewhere, you might not have these people that you see. You you might you’re so disconnected from a community, you might not know. And then you’re ai, well, I I gotta give this this art thing up and, you know
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Right.
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Get a job because I gotta pay bills. Because you just don’t actually have the awareness that there is a pathway.
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And this is the failure of the school system because it never teaches kids that are artists or people that have alternative ways of existing in society that there’s ways to make a career.
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I got kicked out of the only art class I ever took in preschool. Woah. This motherfucker, we had to draw, a shoe or something. And I turned mine into, like, a robot because I didn’t like how the shoe was turning out. And he said, you have to draw a shoe or I’m failing you. I’m gonna kick you out of the class. You would have to draw a shoe.
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And Ai just like, kick me out then. And I knew, like, at that at, you know, at 15, 16, that, like, art is what I ai is. That no nobody else can say what the fucking rules are. Like, this is for me to do. And now, I forget his fucking I wish I knew I remembered his name. And tell him to fuck off. Right?
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There’s a
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lot of those guys that turn people off. They I had a high school art teacher turn me off to art too. He was just a dick. And then I found out that the most talented guy in the class, this kid John Devore, who I I still contact every now and then, we talk on email. He was the most talented guy. He gave that guy an f. Yeah. And I go, no.
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So it’s like, I I hadn’t communicated with John since I left art class, but we did a bunch of stuff together. We did a bunch of drawings together. Yeah. And when Do you ever draw a flower? No. Not really. No. I do sometimes with my daughter. One of my daughters is really talented. I draw sometimes with her.
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But for the most part, no. It’s interesting. I did a little drawing on vacation. We were drawing stuff together. Yeah. It was fun.
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But, you know, I just don’t have the time to get obsessed with it Sure.
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Right
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now. I’m obsessed with too many things and I have to
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I know. Manage my I’m still waiting for you to start golfing. No. No. No. No. No. Dude, putting is
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pool. No. No. No. No.
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Putting is pool on an undulated, warped table.
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Oh, I understand.
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Sai get it.
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Listen, I know everybody that I know that I love who’s into it is obsessed. And that’s part of the problem. Yeah. It’s ai Sai know what’s coming. And I know it’s like a fucking multiple hour thing. You gotta dress like an asshole, wear stupid shoes.
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You have to dress like an asshole. That’s for sure.
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And then I see all these fucking fights where people are fighting on the golf courses. Do you see that drunken guy that got in a with a with a hockey enforcer?
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Yeah. Through through the dude in the fucking lake.
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First of all, the size of that guy, the fact that you’re squaring up, but you’re just bluffing, you’re squaring up with this fucking
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That’s one of those spots where people think they’re way fucking tougher because they got a bag full of clubs than they actually are. People get out of fucking control on
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them all.
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But it’s just dudes. But it’s so dumb.
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And it’s drinking too. The guy was clearly hammered. And I think he made a video afterwards apologizing.
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Yeah. Good.
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Because he was just drunk. He’s just drunk and he got stupid, but he got stupid with that’s what
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I always tell people, like,
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don’t get in fights. One day, you’re gonna get in a fight with a guy who knows what he’s doing and you’re gonna get fucked up.
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Imagine that fucking fear. Like, when when he got grabbed by that fucking hockey player He
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got his jacket. He’s just fucking hair right in his right hands.
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What a nightmare. Ai, like, I hope he was ai, wow. I really made a poor choice.
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No. At that time, he was just drunk as
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fuck. Yeah.
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And probably thinking, I’m gonna get him back. Yeah. I’m gonna get him back.
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Because I know what that fear feels like when somebody really fucking, like, you know, in a gym scenario Yeah. When somebody really grabs you and you’re ai, oh, fuck. There’s nothing I could do right now. Like, I tapped to Big Nog’s side control. He squeezed me so fucking hard, it felt like my ribs were gonna come out of my mouth. Oh, god.
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And Ai I you know, I was like a blue belt, maybe he’s still a white belt, and Ai I tapped to side control.
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That’s crazy.
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And I started to think, what if he was fucking punching me too?
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You know? Well, also, he’s way bigger than me.
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He was fucking massive.
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Yeah. He’s way bigger than you. The the the the amount of pressure, if you’re a really big person, you put down on a small person, it’s really kinda unbearable.
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But even somebody who’s, like, my same same weight or whatever, like, that Mhmm. When you really, like, I’m fucking wrapped up and, like, if this person wanted to, they could end me right now.
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Oh, yeah. That was always the most, eye opening to me when I would roll with guys who are thirty, forty pounds lighter than me. They just fucked me up.
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And immediately, I was like, I never wanna act tough in public again, ever. Ai, that fear of, like Yeah. If somebody I I got in there was a guy who’s I was in a, like, a time period where I was partying a lot. This guy was just being a dick to a bunch of people, said something shitty to my friend, and I’m trying to walk away, and it just, like, my my brain was just, like, say something.
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And I was just like, why are you being a fucking dick? Like, you know. And he puffed up and started coming at meh, and, like, he, like, swiped something out of my hand, and immediately ai instincts kicked into jiu jitsu. I grabbed he had ai a like a like a flannel on. I grabbed his collar ai a lapel, and I grabbed his wrist and just meh like, immediately, I was just gonna throw him.
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And then, like, the other voice in my head is like the guy had a dog actually who wasn’t on leash. And I ai, like, if I throw this guy on his head right now and his dog runs in the street, I’m a feel a little guilty. Mhmm. But I sensed in him that you know, like, when a grappler, like, grabs your wrist, like, you feel it. It feels different than Yeah. Somebody else.
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It’s
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someone who knows what they’re doing.
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Yeah. Like, immediately ram both and, like, put the squeeze on them that I could read in his eyes, like, oh, that wasn’t normal. And and then I was, like, no. No. No. And, like, let go. And then he, like, walked away talking shah, and I
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just laughed. That’s good.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. And, you know, that that’s really rare for meh. But it was, like, he had said something shitty to somebody. But to have somebody grab you like that and the fear that can come with that
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Yeah.
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I would never wanna experience that in real life. No. Like, fucking horrifying.
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Well, street fights are stupid. They’re terrible. And the people that know how to fight don’t do them. They they don’t want anything to do with it. You should just go to a gym. Yeah. You should go to a gym if you have
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this desire. Did you see this video recently? I saw it yesterday. You guys ai making me think of it.
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What happened?
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This guy on top, they’re saying the guy in the bottom’s a white belt. He gets choked out without the use of arms. It’s all legs here. Gets put in the arm.
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Oh, this is so rude. Why is he doing this to a white belt?
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That’s Well, I’m in the training, I guess. I know, but
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it’s sai rude.
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That’s for the Ai would go to you guys being experts.
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01:57:21
Yeah. Oh, Eddie can do that. Very rude. No. Well, it’s ai of rude. Yeah.
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Did you see
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him shake his head there? It’s also that guy is just training. He’s just using that guy as a practice dummy.
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Yeah. He will sharpen up
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his ai. It’s ai rude. But Sai mean, what do you want to happen if you roll with a white belt? Do you want him to win? Or you wanna let him win? No. Like, what do you do? Yeah. You tap him. You tell him what to do.
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Along the way, like, you gotta protect this arm. This arm’s in a bad spot. Don’t reach back like that because then you open yourself up for the arm triangle. You gotta tell them T Rex, keep your arms in tight.
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That’s how I coach. Yeah. Yeah. When I’m training with somebody Yeah. Like, I’m talking them through it. And I’ll even I’ll do the thing where I tell them what I’m gonna do before I do it Yeah. So that they can start to work out their defenses Right. And, like, get an idea. You know?
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That’s good.
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Because as a black belt, like, you could beat everybody up. Like, that kinda loses some of its shine after a while.
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Ai that guy was using that dude as just a training dummy. He was ai Yeah. I could just work
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my time. Working on his legs. Yeah. Yeah.
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Because if you can cinch up a triangle even on a white belt with no legs, at least you’re getting reps in.
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No. Yeah. And it probably makes it, like, somewhat more difficult.
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It’s better than that dummy I have collecting dust in my gym. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Dummy that
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I don’t know when you get reset. Back vatsal. Just, like, slight resistance.
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01:58:33
You know what I do use though? I’d use that Bubba dummy. You know that thing? Uh-huh. The the punching dummy? It’s like the rubber
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the big one.
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There’s something good for that. Just target practice. It’s good. You can’t kick it too hard because it falls over. But if you, you can kick the face, you could slap the face. Yeah.
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And there’s something about those that just you wanna kinda give them a little bit of the business.
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Yeah. Fuck you, Bob.
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We have one sitting right next to our our boxing ring in the gym, and I always post up and
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01:59:02
It’s really good for practicing certain kicks. It’s really good for question mark kicks because there’s a shoulder element. And you’re with with a question mark kick, you’re really trying to go over the shoulder. Yeah. That little Yeah. Like the glabe vatsal, the fitosa one.
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Glabe fatosa fitosa had the absolute best question mark kick of all time. And his question mark kick would come down on you. It’ll go over the shoulders and just chop down.
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Yeah.
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And ai the that Bob dummy is great for practicing that. It’s like the best thing for practicing because a bag is so straight. You know, the bag kicking down like that is like it’s you don’t have a real target
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Yeah.
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Like you do with that Bob dummy because you’re really trying to get the neck. You’re really trying to go over the top and get that neck just sai hack.
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Yeah. Such a strange looking kick too.
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01:59:46
Oh, yeah. It works though, man. Yeah. That fucker works. That works a lot. Because, like, you worry about that front kick to the guts, so you’ll do this, you know, or you think a low kick is coming and then it comes over the top and by the time it’s you don’t react in this you can’t react in time.
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Yeah. Like you’re already planning to get kicked in the leg and by the time you figure it out, it’s in your fucking ear.
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Exactly. And the guys that are good with like Luke Rockhold has a nasty one.
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There’s
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Yeah. Guys that are good with it ai, oof, oof. It’s just so sneaky. Over the top. Yeah.
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That’s another imagine just running into some Thai guy who you you think you could throw around. He’ll just fucking blast you with a fucking knee.
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Not only that, the trips, they’re so good at the tying up and the clinching and dumping people. Have you ever trained with ai a guy who’s like really good at tripping you?
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Yeah.
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As soon as you tie up, whoops, your leg is up and you’re ai, motherfucker, are you
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That’s what I always wanna throw ai flying like ankle blocks.
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Yeah. Well, that’s the difference ai, like, Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu. Because in Jiu Jitsu, okay, you threw me to the ground. Now, it’s just started. Yeah.
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Because now, I have
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a hold of your leg. Then the referee is not gonna stand us up. I’m gonna break your knee.
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Yeah.
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Like, you dumbass. You threw me down with an inside control. Ai have a inside hook.
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It’s like a fucking superpower too, man. Yeah. I’m so glad I found it. Like, I owe a lot to you, I think, ai, the way you you spoke of it, like, back then to, ai, even just to get into the gym. Because that’s the fucking hardest part, like Mhmm. Like, crossing that door path and Right.
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And getting on the meh, like, there’s so many days where you’re gonna be like, I don’t wanna do that. Like, I don’t feel like it, but as soon as you get there, it’s, like, so worthwhile and sai valuable.
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Yeah. You just gotta force yourself to do it. And and that’s something Ai really owe to Eddie. Eddie is crazy, you know, like creative and
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Yeah.
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Abstract as he is. He’s super disciplined when it comes to his training. He was always, like, super super disciplined.
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Well, you sana see it. Like, my game is is very similar to, like, to Eddie’s and, like, Lucas Leche, like, that just wherever you can get a hold of the leg. Like, I pull I I like to pull to quarter guard. Mhmm. You know what I mean? Like, I like to play from there. And, like, Sai I’m curious.
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I I wanna know how many people have the lockdown muscle in their fucking calf. I’ve got a lot too. No. There has to be there. Yeah.
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But I’ve never seen one. And it’s so cool. Get that tip bar, dawg. Get that thing. Get that thing.
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It’s ai expensive. You put, like, a little plate on it and you lift you lift with your foot. It’s legit, man.
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No. You could do
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tip bar raises where you just stand on your heels and lean against the wall and just lift your foot up Yeah. Over and over and over again. That does it too. Yeah. But the tib bar thing, you could do it with weight. That’s it right there. Look at that sucker.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. I have that. I use that fucker every day. I have both of them.
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I have both
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of them. I’ve been wanting my butterfly guard to
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get better too. Yeah, man. This this will have a big impact on it. And you could also use it to do a leg extension. So you could do a leg extension and then you could lift the foot at the top if you wanted to. So you could actually emulate
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That’s so funny.
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You actually do it from your back now that I’m thinking about it.
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You could put one
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of those in on each leg and you could lie down on your back and you could speak yeah. And specifically work butterfly guard. There’s so many cool ways to work out now.
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I know.
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There’s so meh, amazing people that have, like, figured out ways to protect your knees and protect your back and, you know, and help your shoulder stability and and just they give it away. They give it away ai. Like, it’s we have such an amazing resource available now for training.
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Ai think about, like, if you’re a young ai, like, there’s these guys that are coming up that have only been doing jujitsu for sure, like Ai Chen. Like, only been doing jujitsu for a short amount of ai, you know, like, less than seven years, I think. And dominating. Yeah. Also, what why?
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Because he’s obsessed and because he has all this information online. Yeah. You you can watch so many instructionals.
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Yeah.
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There’s so many videos of guys pulling things off. You can rewind it, watch it again, rewind it, watch it again, get together with your friend.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Put your no. Put your hand on the left knee. Okay. And then when I push, you pull, and then watch that. Yeah. Like, oh, shah. That works.
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And that takes so long if you’re just doing it, like, in an organic, ai, training way.
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Yeah. For sure.
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But the the beauty, like, I, like, I came up with what a a technique that I haven’t seen or haven’t done before that, like, it can everything continues to evolve. Even as much as we’ve all trained the same shit for so long, like, there’s still new avenues to to explore. If there’s still room to be creative.
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Always. Ai That’s one of the cool things that Eddie will do. Someone someone pulls something off and they have a thing, Eddie will go, show me that. Show me that. Everybody check this out. And they’ll have the whole class gather around and then ai, tell me what you’re doing. Talk me through the thing. Yeah.
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What I ai to do is I like to get mission control and then I shovel this arm through and then I grip it like this and ai, okay try that. And everybody tries it and then Eddie Eddie will go do it on meh. And ai,
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Yeah. Alright.
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Let me try to do it on you.
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Yeah.
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Like, do not somebody try to get out of this. And then, they’ll try to like shah it. Ai, would it be better with this? Would it be better with that? Like, how did you get to this spot? Like, why did did you do you have a pathway that you take to get to this? Do you get to this spot all the time?
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And that’s so similar to your, comedian sort of community too. Like, you have that option.
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Well, I think that’s why I brought that to the comedy community because that was always the way it was in gyms. Yeah. Like, in jujitsu sana in in kickboxing and taekwondo and Muay Ai. Like, people teach you how to do stuff.
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And it’s so good for us as a, like, a culture too. Like, the way to interact with people who you may never interact with in your day to day life Uh-huh. Ever. Yeah. Like, to have that sort of community speak. Like, I feel like that draws a lot of people in. Outside of all the other benefits.
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Yes. Yes.
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There’s a
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lot of community to it.
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And it’s and it’s such a, like, vast array of different types of people from every culture, from every sort of class level. Yeah. And we all find a common equality, of course, with a hierarchy of of experience. But we’re all in the same boat together.
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Well, that’s the same with yoga. It’s the same with a lot of things. Yeah. You know, it’s just like you find a group of people that have also found this very productive, very beneficial thing.
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Yeah.
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02:06:03
Where you going, Marshy?
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Ai, puppy.
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Marsha just woke up.
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I saw your new puppy. Oh, he’s adorable. Jesus Christ.
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He’s Marshall’s new buddy. Yeah. They’re really fun together.
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Is it a Cocker Spaniel?
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No. It’s a King Charles Spaniel. Okay. Ai, come here, buddy. Marshall. Shah everybody. Come say hi to everybody. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come on, man.
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Such a cutie. He’s tired. Long day. You guys go running?
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Come on up. Not today. Today, he just just came here to hang out.
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Yeah. He’s the best.
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02:06:32
Golden retrievers are the absolute best dogs. They just all love they just they would just wanna cuddle with you Yeah. Hang out with you and Yeah. They wanna play, but the whole thing is just, like, be with you.
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Yeah. They’re dressed up for us.
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And he’s sweet to everybody.
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I wish they lived to, like, a hundred and fifty years. I know.
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They ai, if you’re luck well, he’s on a really good diet.
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Yeah.
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We’re putting him on a farmer’s dog now ai changing his food. He was on the Maeve stuff, which is great. But he’s on a raw food diet.
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Yeah. That’s what I was gonna ask you.
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Do you do the raw? Made a giant difference. Giant difference in the way he looks, the way his coat is. Yeah. It made a giant difference in his energy levels. Yeah. You know, it brought dogs. Well, it’s also it’s ai, they’re just like people, man. If you have a person and you feed them nothing but processed food, they’re gonna be sick.
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Yeah. If you eat cereal every day.
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Yeah. I mean, that stuff just sits on a counter Yeah. Forever. It it sits on a shelf. You go to the pet food store, those bags are just sitting there. Like, any real food shouldn’t be just sitting there ai that. It’s gonna rot.
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Yeah. So
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that means that food has nothing ai in it, you know.
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You got you gotta give them the fucking ram. Mhmm. The raw.
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Well, like I said You
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can cut it with the with the ai
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food a
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little bit.
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02:07:45
You don’t need to. Yeah. You don’t need to. This the the way they have these, like, with Farmer’s Dog and with, the stuff that he’s been eating, Mave, it comes with it’s ai frozen, like, green beans and blueberries and potatoes Yeah. Food. And meat. It’s food. Yeah. And it just changes everything, man. They don’t fart as meh. Like, it’s it’s so much better for them. They have way more energy.
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It’s like their her whole his whole body composition changed.
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Yeah. I love it when people, like, actually fucking care. Ai, the Yeah. Their pet isn’t just a, like, a fucking decoration.
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No. Dogs are the best. Yeah. They’re your your life will be more loving if you have dogs. They’re just always around. They’re always cool. They’re so consistent. And they they have simple needs. Yeah. They just sana be
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unless And they’re uncondition they’re unconditionally loving Yeah. All the time.
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Unless you get a working dog. And there’s a lot of dummies out there that go and get a Belgian Malinois and Yeah. Not understand, like, okay.
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Yeah.
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They’re great dogs, but you have you have a responsibility now.
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Yeah.
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Because you don’t have a regular dog. You have a super athlete. Yeah. You’re living with, like, a canine race car.
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Yeah.
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That’s really what that is. Like, you you can’t just leave that in the yard.
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You see those people that train those dogs, like Oh, yeah. Doing the little walk in between their legs as they’re walking down, like
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Yeah.
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Meh friend Anthony just
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got one.
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Have a couple of He just got one.
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He’s sending me videos of the puppy. I’m like, oh meh god. This thing is, like, broke.
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Oh, and they jump, like, 25 feet in the air, Yeah. They fly. They ram flips and shit.
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They run right up walls.
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Yeah. There’s a big one. Imagine one of those fuckers chasing you.
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Yeah. It’s hell. They’re meat missiles. This this is, I’ll send this to you.
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Ai sent it to I sent it I’ll send it to Jamie because I sent it
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to Brian Callan. Because me and Brian Callan are both retarded and then we talk about dogs all day long.
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We talk about, like, what what’s the coolest animal?
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But this video shows the difference between how a shepherd, a German shepherd, which is also a great dog, approaches, something to the difference between a Belgian Malinois does because
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have you seen it?
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02:09:44
Yeah. It’s
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across the chairs and shit. Here. I sent it to you.
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02:09:48
It’s it’s nuts. Like, the the shepherd runs around. He’s like, I’m gonna find a way to get to that guy. I’m gonna go around this way. The malinois runs over the chair. Watch this. Here’s the shepherd. So the shepherd, he’s going around. He’s gotta find the guy, and he gets to him. He bites him.
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02:10:04
Watch the malinois. Now let’s do look at the fucking Malinois over the top, over every chair. It’s, like, just so driven. They’re so driven and so athletic, man. And it’s not that a German shepherd’s not athletic.
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Yeah. Right.
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But, like, in comparison, look at what this fucker does, man.
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Yeah.
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He just runs over these chairs. He gets there in one second. Throws. Insane. They’re so athletic. So, like, a dog like that is not like Marshall. Like, Marshall is cool. Just hang in here. Yeah. Chill. You got a Belgian Malinois. That motherfucker needs tasks. Yeah. It’s just ai it’s basically ai me.
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Yeah.
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Like, you gotta work him out. He’s gonna do things. You can’t just have him sitting in the house. He’ll go fucking crazy.
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Otherwise, he’s gonna be smoking crack back in the alleyway.
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02:10:47
He is ADHD in dog form. That’s what a Belgian Malmont is. Like, you can’t put him on Ritalin. You gotta ai that little guy.
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Yeah. You gotta work that shit out.
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02:10:58
Yeah, man. He needs and it’s ai, if you have the time to do that, they’re incredible dogs. But it’s ai, you gotta know what you’re getting, you know. If you want a dog that just chills, get yourself a bryden retriever. You want a family dog? Yeah. Get yourself a or a Lab. They’re the best.
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02:11:13
Tyler just chill.
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02:11:15
I had a Boston terrier for a long time.
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02:11:17
Oh, they’re sweet dogs.
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Ai haven’t been able to get another dog since since he died. Like, it was, like, too draining. Yeah. Too emotionally draining. Like It’s hard, man. Yeah. Ai was like a family meh. You know? Mhmm. It’s hard, man.
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It’s hard. I still get sad thinking about my dogs Yeah. That have died. But, you know, there’s there’s loss and there’s ai. You just gotta appreciate them ai they’re here
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and Yeah.
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I always love new ones too. I love everybody’s dogs. I love Carl. Carl’s here today. He seems like a little calmer with Marshall today.
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02:11:48
Growing boy. He’s growing. He’s getting his shit together. Yeah. He’s just a puppy. Right?
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02:11:52
He’s also listening when you tell him to stop now. He’s listening. He’s listening.
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02:11:56
Bulldogs are a special breed. Yeah. Especially the English ones. Like, they’re just stubborn little pricks. Yeah. Like, they’re gonna do what they want. Ai I’ve always watching a lady try to walk her two, like, young English bulldogs this morning. They were walking her. Like, and they’ll they’ll put that little you’ll actually get it with the French Bulldog when they put the brakes on, and they’re ai, we normally walk this sai, but right now
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02:12:20
I’m going that way, bitch.
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I’m going that way, bitch. Exactly.
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I’m the boss. Yeah. Yeah. Especially male dogs with their balls. They’ll they’ll test you. He’s never tested meh. Once. Not once. Not once. Never growled. Never growled.
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He’s pretty fucking mellow.
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02:12:33
He’s the best. He he you know what he barks at? Snowmen.
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In my neighborhood
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in my neighborhood, this guy had a a one of them inflatable snowmen and I’m taking him for a walk and
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he sees, like, whoop. He’s like, what the fuck is
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that? Is that a guy? Like, he was the form of it, whatever it was, and it was one of the inflatable ones, so it’s kinda like ai around.
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Meh. Moving around.
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02:12:57
He was like, yo, what the fuck is that? Is that a bear? Like Yeah.
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I would love to jump in a dog’s brain when they have those moments.
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02:13:03
Right. Like a snowman freak out.
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Yeah. Probably looks like a fucking monster.
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Bro, it’s so funny because, you know, because I’m relaxed sana he’s barking. I’m like, bro, can’t trust me. Yeah. I would I’d be he’s thanking you if that was a bad
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He’s looking back at you ai, are we fight are we gonna fight this fucking thing? Are you fucking serious?
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02:13:21
That’s a fucking guy. Like, no. It’s just it’s just an inflatable thing.
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02:13:26
Yeah. He can do that. But other than
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that, he never barks. He’ll bark if he wants to be let in. That’s it. He goes to the door and he just let out a little bark. Yeah. Just tyler you know, hey.
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02:13:33
That’s Jamie and I were talking before, like, it’s very interesting how you start to communicate
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with
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your dogs. And you start to understand what they need. And, like, over enough time, you’d like Yeah. You have a silent communication, which is Yeah. Very, very peculiar.
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02:13:48
And he knows the difference between going for a hike and then coming to the studio. He knows the difference. Yeah. He ai he like, you know, when he if we go somewhere and he’s gonna go run,
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he’s like, he’s all amped up when he
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gets out of the car. He gets here and he’s like, hey, everybody’s cool. What’s up? How’s everybody doing?
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02:14:04
Air conditioning’s on. He’s ready to lie on
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02:14:06
his back and get pet, you know? Yeah. It’s like, he’s he’s the best.
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02:14:11
Yeah. Dogs are fucking amazing. We almost don’t deserve them.
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02:14:14
Well, it’s just such a weird thing that we’ve done because
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So bizarre.
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02:14:19
They used to be wolves, and you can’t train wolves. There is a reason why wolves aren’t in the circus. Think about that. Think about that. You’ve got monkeys, bears, and tigers that you can train to do circus shows
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02:14:33
Yeah.
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In front of everybody. Yeah. You can’t train a wolf. They won’t listen. But yet
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02:14:39
Somehow we turned turned
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a wolf into a dog that, like, literally listens to everything I say.
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02:14:45
Yeah.
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02:14:45
That guy will say, sit down, buddy. Relax. And I’ll just sit. Yeah. You know? Okay. Alright. You ready to go? He’s like, I’m ready. And he just gets up and goes. Ai, he’s just like, how did that happen?
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And the fact that they have that, like, fucking super gene that they they could transform into so many different variations Right. Of the same thing.
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02:15:02
Through selection. Yeah. That’s what’s weird. Ai, selective breeding where you could turn a dog into Carl. Like, if you have enough ai, you can turn a mastiff into this tiny little thing.
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Yeah.
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02:15:14
You just need enough time and enough different select genes. And finally, this female is a little smaller. It was bryden with a smaller male and this one has a shorter snout. Like, how are they even how? What’d you do? How’d you get a chihuahua?
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02:15:29
Right. From a wolf.
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02:15:30
A wolf. You know, they didn’t even they weren’t even sure of that until, like, I don’t know, fucking twenty years ago.
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02:15:36
Really?
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02:15:36
They didn’t know they thought they came from wild dogs and shit. Yeah. It’s when they started sequencing the genome. They’re like, what?
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Yeah. It’s exactly the sai.
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02:15:44
These are all wolves. Ai, they kind of thought probably a lot of them came from wolves, like huskies and shit like that. Yeah. Ai, no. All of them.
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02:15:52
That sort of symbiosis is really interesting too. Like, how plants like, we have that symbiosis with plants and Mhmm. Like, like, certain plants who have followed our evolutionary line down the way or, you know, like, we get connected to these I think sometimes we forget that we’re still a natural part of the environment.
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02:16:11
Well, how weird is it that plants literally put their seeds in the middle of delicious fruit sai that we will So we shit them out? And shit it out. Yeah. And that shah will act as a fertilizer and help it grow.
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Yeah. It’s fucking wild.
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02:16:24
What a not only that, but if you eat the seeds, they’re bad for you. But if you swallow Yeah.
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It has cyanide in there.
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02:16:30
Sai it’s like evolutionary design evolutionarily designed for you to just pass it through digestive tract whole. Yeah. Just swallow them.
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Or even the fact that it’s the certain color that reminds us of a flavor
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02:16:42
Right.
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That, like, a certain color looks delicious. Yeah. Or And all it’s doing is tricking us into eating it, to shit it somewhere, and allow itself
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to reproduce. Tyler that looks poisonous.
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02:16:54
Right.
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02:16:54
So you’re
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scared of it.
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02:16:55
Yeah. You know, I was watching this, video the other day of a spider that makes a decoy spider and puts it in
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02:17:03
its body. That. How? It’s building a sculpture. Right.
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02:17:09
Yeah. And it looks like a fucking spider Yeah. Which is really crazy.
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Sai how
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does a spider even know what a spider looks like? And how did it develop
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It doesn’t have a mirror. Right.
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02:17:18
How did it develop this ability to make a sculpture
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02:17:22
Yeah.
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02:17:23
Out of its own webbing? Like, look at this. That’s crazy, man. Yeah. I mean, that’s really crazy. It’s making a decoy.
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02:17:32
Yeah. Ai mean Or like those caterpillars that look like they have a speak? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or
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02:17:40
mantises. You ever sai mantis that make it look like their their arms are giant teeth? They put their their arms together, like, those ridges. And they they make it look like they have a giant mouth.
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02:17:49
Yeah. Such a fucking bizarre
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02:17:53
Wow. That’s that’s the wild thing about evolution. It’s ai, how? What is the entire process that allows something to develop where when the the moth opens its wings, it looks like eyeballs? Yeah. Like, what is that?
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02:18:06
Yeah. Fucking just life is really good at reproducing itself.
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02:18:10
How do you get a Venus flytrap where a plant tricks you into coming onto the center of this ram? And then, swam. Yeah. And then it eats flies. Nuts.
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The whole thing. I mean, that’s why you gotta, like, find some joy in it. Find find, like, find a little, you know, entertainment in how fucking bizarre everything is. We get so wrapped up in our day to day, you know, just getting ai. Like, just having the moment to be ai, wow.
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02:18:39
Wasn’t that a part of a problem with working really hard too? Like, you you, you know, you don’t see the forest for the trees.
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02:18:45
Yeah.
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02:18:45
And you can get caught up in whatever the fuck you’re doing and, like, forget, like, god, the world is pretty amazing.
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02:18:51
Yeah. The the whole thing is so fucking bizarre. Yeah. And I, you know, we’re so we try so hard to act like we fucking know it all to to just leave some room for some some mystery. Yeah. It’s so important.
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02:19:04
Well, people are weird, meh. And there’s no real good working manual of how to live life.
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02:19:10
Yeah. There’s there’s no right way. There’s no right way. Like, any advice anybody tries to give you, they’re only working on their own experience.
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Especially when you’re trying to pick a weird career. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like like an artist.
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Yeah.
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Like, good luck. Or a comedian or an MMA fighter or anything. Like, you wanna do that?
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It’s Like, who
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are you gonna even ask?
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You gotta find what you love and literally just fucking go for it. Like and I and I I know there’s a sort of, like, okay. You got kids. You got a fucking mortgage. I get it. You know? Like, I’m I’ve hustled all kinds of different ways to to make sure I continue on the process, you know, on the path.
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But,
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like Yeah. It’s very different if you have people that you’re taking care of, and those responsibilities are paramount.
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Again, ai, maybe that that reward system that you would get from something else maybe comes from that.
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A 100%. 100%. But what what we’re saying is that, like, as you are listening to this, if you’re going on your journey into ai, and you think you might be going in a safe direction that’s gonna make money versus the direction that you really wanna go to, ask yourself how bad you really want it.
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Like, what do you wanna do with your life? Do you want your life to be really fun? Do you want your life to be really rewarding where you wake up and you’re excited about what you do? Or do you want every day to be a grind? Do you want every day to be ai you can’t wait to get off sai you can get a cocktail?
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So
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you can
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fucking calm down because you hated you hate everybody in the office and everybody treats everybody like shit, and the boss is a dick. And you just get home, you just wanna drink and watch Netflix. Like, you gotta decide. You gotta decide. And you it’s gonna you’re gonna have to take some drastic speak, and you’re probably gonna have a lot of doubt, especially if you’re doing something weird.
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Like, if you wanna be an artist or you wanna be a comedian, ai, phew. Yeah. It’s a long road, man.
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That doubt fuels. It can it can handcuff you and make you stop, but it can also push you to go further.
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Well, that’s where doing something else that’s difficult, so you know that you can do difficult things really comes in handy. And that’s what I always preach about jiu jitsu. Yeah. Ai think jiu jitsu above all of them is the one that you can do the most, and you get the most out of it.
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And you can get hurt for sure, and I’ve been hurt a bunch of tyler. Don’t get me wrong. But it’s a different ai of hurt than sparring. The hurt that you get from kickboxing and, you know, that you were talking about from Muay Thai, it’s different. You can’t do that every day.
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You can’t you can’t spar every day. You get hurt. Yeah. You get your brain gets beaten up. Your fucking your nose gets fucked up.
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We can’t breathe out of it anymore. It’s just you don’t want that kinda hurt. It’s too debilitating and it could fuck with you for the rest of your life in terms of, like, the just literally the way you think, which was always the scariest thing for me. I remember when I was thinking about stopping fighting, it was like, because I was lying in bed at night with headaches. Yeah. From sparring days. Meh.
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And I was like, what am I doing to my brain? Like, this is the only thing that I have that’s gonna help me decide how to get through life.
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It’s the
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only thing that I have. Yeah. And once you start meeting people that you know are compromised, meeting people that you know have brain damage, ai,
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Yeah. You’re starting to see it, man. Like, I think people who have been fighters their whole life, you know, starting to see a lot of that, like, go to the CTE or whatever the football players we’re dealing with. And ai, how big of an effect I mean, head trauma is sai, so fucking damaging. Yep.
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Ai, and the way that it could show itself in so many different ways.
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Mhmm. And, like Gambling addictions, drug addictions, depression, even ai
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manias, like like, like hallucinations. Yep. You know, I I feel like it almost transforms people into, like, like waking nightmares Mhmm. Sometimes for some people.
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Sure.
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To where it’s like that feeling of, like, you know, like you see somebody who but there’s somebody else.
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Exactly.
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Right? Like, there’s there’s so many, like, aspects that, like, just end up destroying your your normal day to day life. It’s Yeah. It fucks up
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their hormones. It fucks up everything. And, you know, meh, it makes for this insanely attractive sport to watch.
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Yeah. And they love it. Right? You just gotta know when
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to get out. Yeah. You gotta know when to get out. And that’s what’s hard.
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Yeah.
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And the really the hardest thing is that they don’t have anything else. Because in order to be really good at something like fighting, you have to dedicate your entire life to it. It has to be everything about your waking moment.
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Yeah.
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And when it’s not and it’s just a job, that’s when it gets fucking dangerous because those guys get really fucked up a lot of the time.
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Yeah. When you have to get the next fight to to keep the fucking train rolling.
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Yeah. And then you have a family and you and, like, you realize, like, you don’t have any savings. Yeah. And so then to quit, like, what are you gonna do? How are you gonna generate, you know, if you’re fighting and you’re making 250, $300,000 a year fighting three or four times a year?
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Like, how are you gonna replace that? With a regular job. Yeah. You’re not. You don’t have any skills. Yeah.
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Like, all of your skills are in how to fuck people up.
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Yeah. So what
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are you gonna do? Are you gonna teach? You could teach, maybe, especially if you’re real technical.
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Yeah. But that’s not gonna give you the same quality of life or, like, the, you know It
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could eventually. I mean, there’s some guys that make a lot of money off of teaching.
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Sure. You know? That’s ai rare, though. I mean We have to
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be really good. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be really good.
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Because there’s, like, be franchising.
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There’s a lot of demand, you know, ai, you could if you’re an Eddie Bravo, you can teach seminars and you have a bunch of affiliates and a bunch of schools.
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But he’s in the top, you know, 5%.
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Exactly. You know? Exactly. For most people, it’s a grind.
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Yeah. And so I mean, I teach I I was telling Zach, like, to me, jiu jitsu is like a sai, and it got in me. And now it’s trying to find other hosts. Like, I I literally am just trying to shah, but it’s like it’s it’s like jiu jitsu is forcing me to share it, regurgitating it into some other host so that it can regurgitate itself into somebody else.
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But it’s a beneficial parasite. Don’t you think that teaching helps your jujitsu though?
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A million percent.
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Yeah.
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Like, I I show all of my students all of my tricks, so that when I try to use my tricks on them, it stops working.
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Yeah.
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And then I have to evolve the tricks or, like, create other little smoke screens and diversions Yeah. To get to the spot that I need to meh, because they know.
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Yeah.
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And Ai I like to I’ll show stuff that I don’t normally do, but a majority of my curriculum is stuff that I do. That I know works. That I I know all the ins and outs of. I know every little detail of how you get to the spot. Ai, what you do, what you do if they do a, b, or c. And that’s what I share.
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And as I do that, like, I I I notice little techniques not working anymore.
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Well, don’t you think it’s also as you explain the techniques to people, it tightens up your own understanding of the techniques? Yeah. And it makes you better
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at it? Thousand percent. Because you have to think of it and it like, a lot of times our movements are muscle memory. Mhmm. Right? We don’t really consciously think too much about it because we’ve done it a a thousand times where it’s like Sai do this, then I do this, then I do that.
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Right. And you don’t think about it. But when you have to show somebody Yeah. You have to think about all those things that you never think about, help explain it to somebody who doesn’t know what the fuck you’re talking about Yeah. And get them to grasp it.
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I’ve seen that time and time again in Jiu Jitsu, where a ai pretty good and meh starts teaching, like coaching, like beginners one on one private lessons and stuff to make some extra money. Yeah. And next thing you know, he’s a killer. Yeah. It’s ai, wow. That’s it’s I think that’s a missing part of the key to development is teaching.
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Ai think I I’m honestly surprised when others don’t want to do the same. Like, I never, like, I never gatekeep techniques. Like, I if I see something that I think will work, like, I I honestly think I’m a much better coach than I am a jujitsu practitioner. Like, I’m horrible at competing.
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Like, just sometimes Sai just have to be like, okay, I’m just gonna stay here until Ai kinda have a room to get out, and I don’t have to try too fucking hard. But Ai can see the game much better in my ai. And Right. Like, we’re my gym, Speak MMA, is a little bit of, like, a ragtag sort of, like, bad news bears ai gym because there’s so many high level competitive gyms in San Diego.
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Yeah. But we go to all the local tournaments, and we get on the fucking on the podium.
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That’s cool.
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You know? Yeah. We get
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That’s very cool.
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And we’re not San Diego is a
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tough place for jiu jitsu, dog.
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Shit. Yeah.
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You got fucking Jocko’s place down there. Yeah. Barrett Yoshida’s down there. Mhmm. How many people isn’t was Hoehler had a school down there?
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Hoehler still in San Diego? In
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San Diego.
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He actually gave the guy who was the purple belt who threw me on my head that I was talking about earlier, he got his black belt from Hoehler. Wow. Atos is there.
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Oh, yeah. That’s right. That’s right. Oh, what a hotbed of jiu jitsu. Yeah.
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It’s like little fucking Brazil.
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Ain’t that funny? Like, California, especially, like, during the UFC’s growing period became one of the biggest hotbeds of jiu jitsu in the world.
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Yeah. They all went there.
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They all went there. Because they could surf.
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Yeah. They could surf.
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Yeah.
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It’s, like, probably, like, climate wise, fairly similar.
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Fairly similar. Yeah. And then a ton of population to draw from to get students.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially in that LA area where it’s, like, people were already kinda, like, into Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris and shit. Right? And then Yeah. You know, you see Royce just fucking freak everybody out. Mhmm. We I mean, I watched all those early fights as a kid.
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I had a friend’s dad who, like Of course. Would always fucking get the pay per view.
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That’s another thing about Austin. We have so many jujitsu gyms here now.
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Yeah.
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You know, Gordon has his place now. B team has their place. You have got Gracie Baja’s here. You’ve got, Shanji Ribeiro’s here. Yeah. Everybody’s here. There’s, like, so many different gyms here. There’s multiple tenth planets here. You know, there’s there’s, Gabe just opened up a tenth planet in Bastrop.
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There’s a tenth planet right down in in this area. There’s a a tenth planet. There’s, like, three or four tenth planets. Yeah. I think there’s at least three.
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And they’re all packed. Right?
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Packed.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s beautiful.
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It’s like there’s so many people that are interested in it because, you know, it really does work. It really helps you. And not just works ai as a martial art to learn how to defend yourself. It’s a, like, vehicle for understanding yourself better. It helps you in everything you do.
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As long
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as you just do it smart and don’t get hurt.
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Exactly. That’s ai me trying to get up when I fucking my neck was pinched. Ai, that was jujitsu. Yeah. Like, I use it in so many aspects of my life. Like, it’s such a such a beautiful, weird, little sport Yes, sir. Lifestyle.
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02:30:06
Mike Maxwell, I’m glad you came in.
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Joe Rogan, thank you so
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much for having me on, my brother. Tell everybody where they could find you online.
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Mikemaxwellart.com, and all the social medias are at mikemaxwellart. My gallery in Santa Monica is BG Gallery, and I got a gallery out in, New Orleans, mortal machine. You can find my stuff out there.
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And is it all on Ai Maxwell art? Yeah.
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You can find all
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that stuff. Beautiful.
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Alright, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. Ai man. Alright. Bye, everybody.