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#2349 – Danny Jones Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast Episode Summary:
This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience features a wide-ranging conversation between Joe Rogan and his guest, Flynn Dibble. The discussion covers a variety of topics, including the influence of money and special interests in politics, the challenges of communicating complex ideas through comedy, and the importance of open dialogue—even on controversial subjects like vaccines and the COVID-19 pandemic.
Key Topics and Guests:
Flynn Dibble** is the main guest, known for his work in podcasting and media production. He shares stories about his career, including collaborations with figures like Hulk Hogan and experiences pitching TV shows.
– The episode touches on notable personalities such as Joe Schilling (kickboxer), Bob Lazar (UFO whistleblower), and references to interviews with politicians like Ted Cruz.
– There are discussions about other guests and experts, including scholars like Amon Hillman and controversial figures like Gavin McGinnis.
Major Themes and Insights:
Media and Communication:** Both hosts discuss the difficulty of distilling complex or controversial ideas into accessible, entertaining formats. They highlight the importance of refining messages and the challenge of information overload in the digital age.
Critical Thinking and Open Debate:** The episode emphasizes the value of having open conversations, even if opinions are refuted or controversial. Rogan advocates for bringing on guests with differing viewpoints and encourages critical examination of all claims.
Societal Issues:** Topics include the manipulation of political systems by special interests, the psychological effects of social media (referencing studies on Facebook and Instagram deactivation), and the need for transparency in public discourse.
Personal Stories and Career Advice:** Flynn shares actionable insights about adapting to industry changes, leveraging unique opportunities, and the importance of persistence in creative fields.
Recurring Messages:
– The necessity of questioning mainstream narratives and being open to new information.
– The importance of humor and storytelling in making complex topics relatable.
– Encouragement to pursue honest, sometimes uncomfortable conversations as a means of personal and societal growth.
Actionable Tips:
– Stay informed but critical of information sources.
– Refine your communication for clarity and impact.
– Embrace open dialogue, even on divisive issues, to foster understanding and progress.
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#2349 – Danny Jones Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Ai my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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Yeah. I think it’s so fucking weird to be sitting here, bro. Is it? So strange. I feel like I’ve, I’ve been listed of, like, a video game observer, and now I’m, like, in the video game.
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Are we on? Yeah. Well, you kinda are. I mean, it’s weird. It’s weird for meh. You know?
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Yeah. Tomorrow. Well, thanks for thank you for being, like, the number one, promoter of my YouTube channel over the past couple of weeks, bro.
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My pleasure. It’s great stuff, man. I watch it all the time. You’re really good.
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Ai got great
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shows, man. I appreciate that. And I get good guests from your shah. Like, there’s a couple people that have been on your show that I’ve had on my show.
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Yeah. Yeah. Chris Dunn was the first dude, I think. And then, you recently had, Mary Bryden Mhmm. And a few others.
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Yeah. Yeah. Christopher Dunn, meh. That was a wild one. And now that they found these structures underneath the pyramid, it’s ai of validating a lot of the things these people are saying. Mhmm. You know, there’s a lot of controversy about what those structures are and what it means and and how accurate the readings arya.
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But they do know that those satellite images were able to show very accurately this one tomb that was 50 feet underground. And they it showed the dimensions of this one tomb. So Ai don’t know what the capabilities are if it really can decipher what’s under two kilometers of Mhmm.
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You know, whatever is underneath Giza. But there’s something going on for sure.
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Yeah. I had a dude on my show a couple weeks ago who was explaining how that was a part of some YouTube channel that put something together in Italy, I think it was. Mhmm. And, the people that were involved with it were promoting some sort of technology that had something to do with penetrating the ground, something ai different kind of lidar or something like this.
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It’s called what is it called? Something tomography?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Ram, you see what it’s called? But these guys just did another, explanation of it. Like, another deep dive where they did, like, this presentation and showed it. It’s very convincing. Like, there’s a lot of people that are 100% on board. I mean, it remains to be seen. It has to be vetted.
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But according to, you know, some people that I trust that really understand the technology, sai there’s absolutely something there. You know, whether or not the the problem is they made those three d detailed images of what it looked like, like sort of an artist’s rendition.
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Mhmm.
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And you looked at those and it’s got, like, the coils and the spirals and, like, It looks
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a little too much.
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Ai don’t know what that is. But you could see there are coils around those columns. But what are they? Are they stairs? Is it a like ai coil that generates, like, an energy coil? Like, something that conducts electricity or carries electricity? Like, what is it?
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It’s a solid state electron harvester.
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Is that what they say?
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That’s what Chris Dunn says. Oh. I don’t know. I don’t know.
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Did you talk to him about what’s underneath?
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Yeah. He thinks that it was, he thinks that the whole thing, his new book, which is called the Tesla connection, basically explains that it’s a, he thinks that there was, like, a a device in the subterranean chamber, like a hammer, that hammered the Earth. And then the plane Right. The Giza Plateau is, like, is active ai seismically active area. And when it hammers the Earth, it creates meh earthquakes.
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You you’re familiar with this. Right? Right. And it and it vibrates Yeah. All the limestone.
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All the limestone. And it’s got, like, this hammer, this effect, like, doom doom doom. Mhmm. And it creates some sort of a vibration in the granite and the limestone.
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Yeah.
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Okay. The Overcome is, authors ai micro movements within the pyramid typically induced by background seismic waves to achieve high resolution full three d tomographic images of its interior imaging of its interior and subsurface. The approach rendered the pyramid transparent, allowing for the reconstruction of internal objects and the discovery of previously unseen structures. Mhmm.
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So if it’s got an act if it if it works and shows the actual internal structure of the pyramid accurately, And it can accurately depict that one, the the one was it a temple or what was it that was Ai feel is it I feel like it was a temple. It was 50 feet underground. It had the exact interior dimensions of it. Yeah. I mean, there’s probably something to it, and we’re gonna find out eventually, hopefully.
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You think?
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I don’t know, man. These guys, like like, guys like Zawe Hawass and these these gatekeepers of this information, they do not want any groundbreaking new discovery to come out. They really don’t. Mhmm. Especially something like that. If you really find out there’s there’s giant columns underneath the the pyramid and that there’s these structures that go down two kilometers into the ground, like, all bets are off then.
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Like, try explaining that away for people that live February. Like, that’s kind of kooky.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, the the mystery of the pyramids and, you know, moving those blocks and building that fucking thing that long ago is crazy on one hand. But then, on the other hand, those fucking granite vases
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Oh, yeah.
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That are so precise within, like, the deviation of a human hair.
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Yeah. This is a three d, print of one of them that Christopher Dunn gave me.
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Yeah. It’s insane. It’s insane. They measured these on light scanners Yeah. At, like, a huge aerospace corporation somewhere. And they found out, like, it’s so meh. You couldn’t make this unless you had a CNC machine.
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Right.
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And then how would you make the handles? Right. Exactly. Because it’s sai part of
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it. Right. It’s not like you can even turn on a lathe. Right. And it’s accurate. Meh many thousandths of a human hair?
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Yeah. I think it’s like yeah. I think it’s like one one thousandth of a human hair. Like, completely undetectable.
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Bananas. And then there’s also some of those, sculptures that they made that look like they’re three d printed. I mean, they’re incredible. Perfectly symmetrical on the left side and the right side and Yeah. We don’t really understand it. And we don’t know what technology they were using, what kind of tools they were using. Mhmm. It’s and it’s hard to know, man.
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It’s it’s it’s hard to know, like, without you know, when they burned the Ai of Alexandria and they destroyed all the records, like, there’s so much missing from the history of of Egypt and how they did what they did. Mhmm. Just moving the stuff. How did you move it?
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How did
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you move those fucking enormous stones? Like, what did you do?
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Have you heard of, this dude named Jeffrey Ram? He has a channel called the Land of Meh.
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He live No.
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He lives in Egypt. He lives, like, I think right across the street from the pyramids. And he’s basically got this very interesting theory that it was all chemical manufacturing, and the pyramids were chemical manufacturing plants. And I ram gonna, like, butcher this description, but I’m gonna do my best.
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Basically, what he found was that in a bunch of the other pyramids, like the Meh Pyramid and some of the other pyramids, he’s been in there and gone through them all. And he’s basically what they describe when they go in there is this smell, which some people equate to being, like, bat shit.
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But what he thinks is going on is is creating some sort of, like, a chemical reaction in those chambers to create ai. Because there’s a subterranean chamber below those where they have, like, all kinds of they were putting shit in there, ai, animal shit down there. And then there’s also these, like, ravines, these, like, cut out channels that come out of the bottom of the pyramid, and there’s these bowls that were supposed to collect, like, chemicals.
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So he has this really elaborate theory on how which I when I heard him tell me this, it made so much sense. But the problem was, like, it makes sense. It seems super reasonable, but, like, why build these massive structures that are so precise just to make chemicals? And, you know, he was explaining, like, the agriculture and, like, why they needed to create fertilizer and,
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Ai they need the massive stone structure
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to put tyler fertilizer? Right. Exactly.
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Isn’t it possible that things also had one they they, like, they built them and then someone used them later on for different purposes. Isn’t that possible as well? I think Like, instead of it being built for that, like, maybe they just used it for that eventually? That’s possible.
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Yeah. But it seems ai the way he was describing the interior though of that of the Meh Pyramid was ai he it was reverse engineered to actually create the chemical that they they would have needed to enhance the agriculture of the area. Like, they showed it. They actually created it in a in a lab with, like, using the chemical process.
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I think there was, like, some Nazi ai involved in this, of course.
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Yeah. And the
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information. Well, Christopher Dunn stuff was all about them creating hydrogen. Right?
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Mhmm. Yeah. That
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was that’s what he felt, like, the whole thing, like, was generating ai. And that’s what he thought. The whole, those columns that went down, those passages that went down, and then there was the porous limestone that was at the end that seeped through Mhmm. And he believed that this was all, like, some sort of a a chemical reaction that they had to doing this. Here what is here, Jeremy?
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Oh, ai Meh Pyramid was okay. Built as a power plant to produce ammonia from methane and nitrogen. That’s what it was.
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Mhmm. Fritz Haber won the Nobel Ai about a century ago. Yeah. The Haber process. Mhmm. Fritz Haber is a crazy story. Do you know that story? No. Okay. Fritz Haber, he devised a method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere. And he for that, he was winning a Nobel Ai at the same time in which he was being wanted for war crimes, because he also created Zyklon gas. Mhmm.
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So he created the gas that they were using to spray on the ai. So they would get this this gas and spray it with fans. This is the first time they’d ever done something like this before, using gas in warfare. And they use and he was a Jew. And they used, he created Zyklon a, which was then converted to Zyklon b.
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So Zyklon a had a a very disgusting smell to it, so you knew it was coming. And then Zyklon b, they used during the Holocaust to gas the Jews. And it had no smell. So they they yeah. So the thing was initially made as a pesticide.
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I think that was a initial meh me see what it says here. Oh, this is different. Oh, this
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is different. We’re not talking about
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this is about the how the Egypt thing would have been the same. Okay. But we’ll get to
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that. Yeah.
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But the Fritz Haber thing, you know, he was eventually exiled ram, from Nazi Germany because he was Jewish. Like, they allowed him to stay initially in the beginning because he was so valuable because he had done so meh. Mhmm. And because he did create this gas that they were using to gas the ai.
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And then, you know, but but imagine, guys up for a Nobel Prize at the same time where he’s wanted for war crimes. Yeah. Yeah. And because he was doing all this, his wife commits suicide. She shoots herself, in the chest.
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He leaves her and his, 13 year old son to go to the front line while she’s struggling for her ai, like she’s still alive. She eventually dies. He leaves her That’s
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right. Yeah.
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It was the whole thing’s horrific. And then he dies on the run. So he ai, I think he had a heart complication, which, duh, how much stress was that guy under? Ai? And then he leaves Nazi Germany when, you know, the shit is going down. He’s on the run, and he wants up dying on the run.
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I think he was dying on his way to try to seek medical care.
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Yeah, bro. That, I mean, the story of what those fucking Nazis were doing is bananas. Fitz and You had Annie on here and she talked about, what was going on when she tried to interview some of those guys that were still in Germany. I think she tried to interview, like, the grandson of one of the dudes that she wrote about. I can’t remember his name right now.
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A dude with, like, a huge dueling scar on his face. And this guy, like, wanted nothing to do with his with his father or whatever. And, you know, she had these documents that she found when she went to Germany. And she was, ai, she I guess, she found a bunch of notes or whatever that he wrote to his son when he came when after he went to America with paperclip.
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And his ram or this was his grandson, I think.
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Operation paperclip for people listening Yeah. Is they they shipped over a bunch of the best Nazi ai and brought them into NASA Yes. And some other departments at the end of the war.
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And the grandson wanted nothing to do with his father. He, like, detested him for his father with every fiber of his being. And she was showing him the notes and, like, showing him, like, the humanity of the guy. The guy was torn between, like, being this scientist contracted to do all this crazy shit for America, but he still loved his wife and son on the other hand.
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And he was, like, he was so just torn apart by the fact that he had to leave them behind.
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And then
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she showed the dude the documents. And then Annie Jacobson freaking hightailed it out of there with all that secret Nazi shah, like, didn’t get caught, which is incredible.
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Oh, it’s just ai, the stuff they were working on. Like, how were they so advanced? Mhmm. And why were they so obsessed with the occult? Yeah. You know? Yeah. It’s ai all that Indiana Jones stuff, that was ai of legit. Like, they were really interested in the occult. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Interdimensional aliens? Yeah. What’s Alex thinking about? Interdimensional childless person.
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I haven’t talked to him about that. We we we have talked about Operation Paperclip, but only in regards to, like, Wernher von Braun and, you know, they were in, like, deep denial about that. But the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if Wernher von Braun was alive today, he he would be prosecuted. He’d be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Yeah.
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He went when he was running his rocket factory in Berlin, he would take the five slowest Jews and hang them
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Yeah.
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From the front of the the the factory. So that as you’re walking in, like, this is what happens if you move slowly. And that was the head of NASA who supposedly got us to the moon. Mhmm.
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Speak of the moon. Have you seen that documentary called Ram two thirty seven? Yes. I just watched it last night. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking bananas. Yeah.
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That’s bananas. The the connections between Kubrick’s The Shining and the moon landing and all the hidden stuff Yes. That he did all the Easter eggs Yep. Including the little boy with the NASA shirt
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on, the Apollo shirt. Apollo eleven shirt on, and then the key to the Room 237 said Room N instead of N 0237. It just said Room N 237. So you could bro, I mean, I am ai What does that mean? So, like, if you take the letters r o o m and then n, you can re combobulate them to say moon. Oh, god.
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Like, there’s so much dot connecting in that fucking in that documentary. It’s absurd.
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Some of that.
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There’s an absurd level of dot connecting that just is is, unreasonable. But the stuff about the moon, though, like, the kid wearing the Apollo 11 shirt.
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Right? The number of the door is the distance from the Earth to the moon Yes. In miles. Yeah. Thousands of miles.
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Yeah. I think it’s, like, a thousand miles short.
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Yeah.
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And then, like, also the psychological, trauma the the the scenes with Jack and his wife saying, like, don’t
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you know what a contract is?
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Where he’s, like, living his double life, and he’s, like, arguing with his wife and talking about contracts and secrecy and all this stuff. Mhmm. And then, and then, you know, there’s that there’s so many weird things and, like, the ball rolls up to Danny on the carpet Mhmm.
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And then it cuts and then it cuts back to him, like, picks up the ball and the carpet shape is different. There’s so many, like, strange Why is that? Ai there.
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What’s that supposed to signify?
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I have no idea. It’s just, like, another it’s just it either that movie has, like, an insane level of, like, continuity errors, or he was doing something?
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Oh, he was probably doing it on purpose. You know, Kubrick in his spare time would do complex mathematics. His spare time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. He was a, like, a legitimate genius. And it’s amazing that he pulled off the greatest science fiction movie of all time Yeah. Especially at the ai, during the exact same time period where the moon landings were filmed. And the stuff from 2001 is more sophisticated. It looks better Yeah.
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Than the stuff from the moon landings. Sai, like, the idea that you couldn’t fake it Right. It’s like, that guy could fake it.
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Right.
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100% he could fake it.
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Right.
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And if they hired him to fake it, if they brought him aboard, the idea that he wouldn’t be able to keep secret Mhmm. Like, of course, he could. Right. Yeah. People keep secrets. This idea that people can’t keep secrets because some people can’t keep secrets, ai, listen, high level military guys keep secrets Yeah. All the fucking time.
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They go to the grave with those secrets. Right. Yeah. They swear to secrecy. They swear to an oath. Mhmm.
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You know, they have top secret clearance and above and whatever it is, and they don’t say shit forever. Their whole fucking family doesn’t know what they’re doing. Yeah.
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Yeah. The, the thing about the like, if you if you if you think the moon landing was fake, you’re a moron. But it’s it’s, ai, the thing about it is if they even if you wanna say they did to go to the moon, wouldn’t it be reasonable to suggest that they would have had a backup plan in case they couldn’t get there?
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Like Sure. Like, have some sort of a video footage that they stay shot or not?
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Well, not only that. They filmed a lot of training footage. Yeah. They they definitely tried to pass some of that training footage off as legit. Mhmm. That that’s proven. Ai, the Michael Collins from Ai. I forget what mission it was. It was a spacewalk. So there’s an image of him, that was in training And, you know, he’s got the suit on and the ai, and he’s, you know, working with, the speak suit that you use when you’re actually in Yes.
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You know Yeah. Outside of the the capsule or whatever the fuck they call it. And what they did was from the training mission, they just blacked out the exterior of the exterior of the same photo and reversed it. So they switched the photo the other way, blacked it’s the exact same photo.
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The exact same photo, and they tried to pass it off as Michael Collins on the spacewalk. Because you gotta think, like, how are they taking pictures? Who’s who’s gonna take the picture of them ai there? This is part of the problem with, I think it was Apollo 12 or 13, whichever one it was, where they got the footage of the the lunar module leaving the the moon and going back towards the orbiter.
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Mhmm. And it looks so fake. It looks so fake. It looks so ridiculous. There’s no plumes of of fire. It like, what how does it have the power?
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Where’s the engine?
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The use of car batteries. Right? On that thing? Allegedly? That’s what Bart Sabrel says.
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It’s still one sixth the verse gravity. It’s still a significant amount of gravity. It’s not the same gravity as Earth, but how does that thing, like, shoot off into space? Like, that’s nonsense. It looks it looks like it’s being pulled by strings. Yeah. And the camera, which is operated, you know, remotely pans perfectly to catch it. Like, shut the fuck up. And how are you getting that footage?
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Like, what are you doing? This is 1969. You’re on the phone with Richard Nixon from the moon. Are you out of your fucking mind? Is this supposed to be real? Yeah. Nixon from the moon. Are you out of your fucking mind? Is this supposed to be real?
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Yep. Yep.
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Right in the middle of Operation Paperclip, MK Ultra Uh-huh. The cold war, all the fucking deception that was going on, all the secret
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They lied about everything. That
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was the time in history where they probably had the most fucking lies.
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Vietnam War? They lied about everything. Sai the the idea that they didn’t lie about this one thing, the moon land Right. Was all a 100% legit. Meanwhile, you’ve got intersecting shadows. You’ve got all sorts of problems. You’ve got the weirdest one, is Neil Armstrong’s twenty fifth anniversary speech that he gave at the White House.
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Mhmm. That was so crazy. We have here among us America’s breast best and brightest. You achieve great things. Great but once once you reveal some of truth’s hidden layers
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Once the hidden layers are uncovered
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What?
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The image How about
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just say Ai went to the moon twenty five years ago? Like, what is all this cryptic talk?
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That was the only time you ever did a public talk, I think about it.
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Well, the other thing is the post flight press conference. The post flight press conference looks like these guys have a gun to their head. It looks like a hostage video. It looks so weird. Yeah. And people say, oh, they were nervous. They just got back from the moon. Bro, look at Katy Perry.
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She she went basically a little bit higher than sai airplane, and it was ai a life changing experience. She’s holding up a daisy. It was amazing. I feel so connected to mother Earth. You know, like, these guys would have been ecstatic.
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Yeah.
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The idea that they would have been nervous as if they’re been forced to ai, they’re behaving. Like, behavior experts have looked at that footage and said these guys are being deceptive.
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Yes.
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Particularly Ai Collins. Mhmm. He’s also inconsistent things with what he said during the post ai plus press conference right after flying in comparison to his 1994 book.
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Change of story. Right?
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Change of the story about being able to see the stars. Mhmm. The what were the stars like? He’s like, Sai don’t know. Don’t meh. Overall steering arya. And then in the 1994 book, it talks about how amazing they were and incredible. Mhmm. The footage that Sabrel acquired that shows that it appears that they covered up the windows to make this deceptive film that looks like they’re far into space.
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That’s a weird one, meh, because I can’t find any rational explanation that’s ai I tried to look at it, like, as objectively as possible, because I’ve gone back and forth on the moon thing. Ai, at one point in time, I thought I’m I’m just being really stupid. Like, of course, they went to the moon. Everybody would know about this.
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And then over like, I joked about it in my comedy speak, like, after COVID, I’m like, I don’t think we went to the moon. But that’s kind of true. Like, once I saw the level of deception that was willfully pushed forth during COVID and how many people were cooperating with this and, like, how many organizations government organizations were cooperating knowing that they ai, knowing that these were ai.
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I’m like, yeah. They can they can lie about all kinds of things. And this is today with the Internet, you know. Like, look, where’s the Epstein files? Can’t find them. Mhmm. Don’t exist. Like, they can get away with shit, man. Yeah. And the idea that they couldn’t in 1969, shut the fuck up.
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23:53
Shut the fuck up. They could fake that. It’d be easier to go to the moon than it would be to fake it. Shah the fuck up. No, it wouldn’t.
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Right.
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Not if you physically can’t get a human being through the Van Allen radiation belts without them dying. Mhmm. They never even flew a chicken through those fucking things and had it come back ai.
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Russia threw it flew a dog, and it came back and died two days later, I think.
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They but they didn’t even go to deep space.
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No. There’s through the I think they just went into the belt and then did a u-turn.
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24:21
Bro. No one’s even been close.
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Have you seen the the I’m sure you’ve seen this. The photo of Jollie West hanging out on the set of 2,001 Speak Odyssey?
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No. You haven’t seen it? No. Oh, that’s amazing.
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Should I send it
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online? Fuck. Yeah. Send it to JV.
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Oh ai god.
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Do you have his number?
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No.
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Ai.
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But you could probably Google it. It’s probably
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not that long. See if you could find it if you Google it.
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Yeah. Just Jollie West, Stanley Kubrick 2001 Space Odyssey. It’s a it’s a photo of them walking between the sound stages, and it’s a wide shot of a bunch of dudes.
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24:56
Listen, man. Of course, they There’s no
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That’s not it. That’s not it.
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25:00
Of course, they would contact Kubrick if they wanted to go to the moon and fake it. Yeah. And, of course, if Kubrick was if you’re in the middle of the Cold War, which they were, which is very terrifying.
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Right.
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Right? When I was a kid, when I was in high school, we were terrified of Russia bombing America. Yes. Everyone was, like, really concerned and Russia was the great enemy. You know, the the video of Khrushchev yelling, we will bury you. Ai, that sai, like, burned into every American child’s mind.
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And if you’re a patriot and you wanted to defeat Russia, we have a strategy to defeat Russia, and this is what we’re gonna do. We’re gonna first of all, we’re gonna bankrupt them by just making them spend to keep up with us. And they don’t they don’t have a capitalist ai. So they don’t they don’t really have a GDP.
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25:43
Like, they’re well, they have a GDP, but they don’t have, like, the same sort of corporate structure that we have in America where they’re, like, striving and innovating and developing new things. The companies are getting bigger and there’s more growth and no. They’re communist. They were communist countries.
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So everything was ai food lines and they didn’t have the the kind of money that they have. It wasn’t wasn’t even close. So Reagan essentially bankrupted them. And then, you know, during the time and, you know, all the other people before him as well. But during the time where they were developing these these rocket ships, the Russians were way more advanced than us.
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And basically every single thing, they got to space first, put the first man in speak, put the first satellite in space, and they couldn’t even come close to putting a put a guy ai the moon.
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Yeah. It’s amazing. It’s it’s, it’s incredible also that, there was never another nuke that was sent to anybody after the after Fat Meh and Little Boy.
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Yeah. That’s incredible.
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It’s really it is really insane to think about sometimes.
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Yeah. That’s one of the great achievements of human beings that we did it once, and we said, let’s not do that again.
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Annie’s book about nuclear war scared the living shit out of me, bro.
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Yeah. It’s a good one.
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How she said that we have 11 interceptor missiles in The US. That’s it. A ai, I think it’s I think it’s 11 or maybe 22. Or, no, it’s 44.
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40 Russia has 5,000 missiles. Yeah.
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Yeah. And the problem with it is, like, if a rogue nuke got launched from North Korea from one of their submarines, it would have to fly over the North Pole,
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right,
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towards us. And as soon as they launch it with all of our satellite systems that we can detect the thing the, rocket burner, like, going into orbit, we’ll know within five minutes of them launching it, probably before. And then we literally have to I guess, like, the way she described it was, our policy is once that nuke is launched, we have to empty our silos, our, ICBM silos because they’re stationary.
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They can’t if they’re hit, they’re gonna they’re gonna try to take us out at those ICBM sites. That’s gonna be, like, one of their first targets. So it’s user or loser. You have to launch all those ICBM nukes, and then we have to fly those over the North Pole, over Russia to hit North Korea.
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And it takes, like, eleven minutes. So, like, you gotta get Putin on the phone in ten minutes saying, yo, these nukes aren’t coming for you, bro. No. They’re going for Kim Jong Un.
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27:53
Oh my god.
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And then by that time, it’s like, if you don’t have, like, perfect communication amongst all these world leaders, everyone’s gonna be launching nukes. Well, you know
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the story about that one Russian military guy that was the reason why Russia didn’t launch a retaliatory strike because there was a
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Submarine guy?
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Yeah. Mhmm. There was an error, and they thought The United States had launched a missile towards Russia, and they were There it is. Ready to respond. Wow.
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That’s jolly west in the background, bro.
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It’s unconfirmed if it was him. I don’t know if anyone confirmed it.
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That’s if you can find a young fellow him.
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Zoom in on ai idea. Let’s zoom in on him right here. I saw the video where someone’s talking about it, and that’s Oh, that’s him, bro. I don’t know. What are you talking about? You don’t know. I haven’t Jamie works for the government, by the way. Jamie’s Ai. I’m just saying.
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I don’t know.
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Look at that. That’s a 100% him. Look at that picture. Now go to the other picture you just showed. That’s him.
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That’s Jollie Webb.
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Yeah. That’s him, dude. I mean
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Nothing to see here?
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Yeah. That is 100% him. That’s exact same face. Shut the fuck up, Jay.
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Find another one. Corroborate
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it. That’s I’m just I don’t Yeah. I don’t think Vatsal the people that, I wish were alive that I could talk to, Kubrick is number one on that list. Really? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. First of all, ai made some of the most impactful well, I would like to talk to Jolley West too if he’d be willing.
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Fuck. Be a few people. It ai like they look the same.
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Dude was everywhere.
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Yeah. That looks like him, Jamie. It looks similar. Yeah. It looks like him. He doesn’t look like that guy.
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Look at that guy.
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Look at
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the far left photo. I mean, I I mean,
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I it seems it seems pretty close. Jamie, that’s him. Shut the fuck up.
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Hairline ai identical. Look at the hairline. Jamie’s a party pooper.
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Jamie’s a total party pooper.
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I’d like to cook. I want good evidence. There’s a little part right here
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on that guy’s head and
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that guy’s got
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Oh ai god. He combed his hair different. Crazy.
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Ai hate when facts don’t lie, but
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my theory in the second one is exactly the same. Yeah. That one right there is exactly what it was. That is. He started losing his hand. He started doing a little bit of a comb over.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. Look, meh. That guy was one of the biggest pieces of shit in the history of the United States government. What he did was nuts. Just just the fucking Manson stuff was nuts. Mhmm. The MK Ultra stuff was and imagine you could do all this stuff. No one’s investigating you. No one even knows.
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It’s all completely top secret. Congress has no idea you even exist in this realm. Mhmm. And they were running around doing, like
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Yeah. I was talking to Hamilton about ai. I’m like, dude, isn’t that crazy all the stuff they were doing with MK Ultra? Hamilton’s like, no. Of course, those guys were doing that shit.
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Who’s that?
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Hamilton? Hamilton Morris.
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Oh, Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That ai, of course.
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I’m like, of course, they
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were doing that, bro. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, if you have some unique compound ai LSD Mhmm. And, you know, gets to, you know, Hoffman discovers it and then they start experimenting ai what can we do with this stuff and then you you find it has profound effects on the human mind.
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Of course, you’re gonna try to use it for mind control. They had already experimented with all sorts of techniques in regards to, doing it with prisoners, like taking prisoners and trying to figure out, like, what kind of sleep deprivation, what ai of what sai techniques can you use to extract information from them.
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So if you had something like LSD, of course, they’re gonna try that. Makes sense. Yeah.
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They were doing it
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way back in the fifties in The UK with those British soldiers. I’m sure you’ve seen that video.
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No. I have not.
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You never seen that? No. They dosed up these soldiers with acid and then had them go out in the field and do these training routines Yeah. Training exercises. No, sir. And they couldn’t do it. They could they sai, you can find the video. It’s hilarious. They they were just laughing so hard they couldn’t perform.
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Like, some of them were able to do their duties sana other ones just fell to the ground. They were just laughing and rolling around the ground. Like, this is them. This is 64.
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These guys are high on acid.
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Is that what it says, Jamie? Did you just sai make it smaller again sai you could see it? Yeah. 64. Royal Marines. So So look at these poor guys. The men begin to relax and giggle. What the fuck are we doing here, bro? They probably didn’t even tell them, and this guy freaked out.
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He had to be removed. He’s holding that lady’s hand. I love you. I think you’re amazing. We’re all connected. God is real. There is no death.
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31:57
And if I could he’s aiming the missile. He’s ai, he’s aiming this fucking this cannon. Look at these people. Note that they’re bunching indecision as they enter a wood. Almost immediately, section commander tried to use a map. He couldn’t read the map. They’re just tripping balls. Oh my god.
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It’s so funny that they try look at their smile on their faces. Guys ai got his hand over his head ai, what is going on, man? And then supposed to be doing these ai, radioed communication
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Oh, my ai, dude.
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Difficult if not impossible. He’s like, fuck this.
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Unfucking radio.
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This ai just laying down laughing, having so much fun. I try to chop sai a tree down using only a spade. No. The sense of responsibility in spite of physical illnesses. But one hour and a
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imagine what they’re doing now. Those guys are dead. There’s a yeah. The DARPA, that DARPA grant that went to University of North Carolina to figure out how to take the psychedelic trip out of, LSD, I think it was.
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Yeah.
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They’re trying to make super soldiers. Right? They’re trying to make them sai they can this is what I’ve heard is that they arya trying to make them more effective on the battlefield
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Right.
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With things like edge detection
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Right.
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And also coming back, like, get back out there, like like, take them through the take them through the process, let them recoup, and get right back out on the battlefield
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Mhmm.
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To where, you know, if you could if you could get all the benefits of a psychedelic without the trip Right. Would you get those benefits and would it be useful for soldiers in combat? You know, it’s sai interesting idea.
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Well, the vikings took mushrooms and the berserkers, they they would take mushrooms before combat. Yeah. I mean, it may it it does make sense. It really does. It doesn’t make sense to us because we think of mushrooms as, like, you know, hey, meh. I’m gonna go connect with God and it’s gonna be peaceful in Atlanta field. It’s gonna be amazing. I’m gonna reset and come back and tell everybody I love them.
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Mhmm. You know, that’s what mushrooms are to us. But if you live in an insanely ai culture and you believe it’s right to go to battle and you’re supposed to go to battle and Odin is on your side and you take these mushrooms to summon the strength of the gods and to prepare yourself for battle.
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And there’s I know a lot of guys who fight on mushrooms.
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Really?
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Yeah. Yeah. Like, Joe Schilling talked about on the podcast. He he fought He took, like, a small dose and was sparring and, then fought a few kickboxing bouts that way. He said he could see what guys were doing before they were doing it. It’s almost like he could and Joe Schilling is a world champion, like, an elite kickboxer.
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Yeah. Ai, one of the best ever. And so for a guy like that to say that it had a profound effect on him, he knows. He knows his body. Like, he’s vatsal hardened. He knows the difference between regular fighting and fighting on mushrooms.
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He said he could see he could almost, like, know what they were gonna do before they did
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it. That’s wild. Yeah. They, there’s this dude who is, ai, I I heard about Dana Beal who’s flying Ibogaine to the troops in Ukraine to the Ukrainian troops trying to get those guys in Ibogaine. Mhmm. And meanwhile, the Russians are on, what’s that meh rogue? There’s ai a new age meth that they’re on. There’s a new age meth? Yeah.
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There’s a new version of it.
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The new version of what the Nazis
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It’s not Pervitin. It’s like a new version of it. It’s like a little bit it’s a little bit tamer.
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But, like metterol.
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Ai guess, maybe.
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Maybe ai super Adderall. But, Adderall, he’s working.
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36:23
Million prescriptions of Adderall given in this country every year.
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Gavin McGinnis told me before I came here, I was like, you got any advice for Joe Rogan? He’s like
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36:31
Yes, Gavin McGinnis.
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He said ram three beers and eat an Adderall. I was like,
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no, bro. That’s nothing that he would do. Yeah. Yeah. He came do you ever see the ai tyler he came in dressed like Michael Douglas walking down?
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Of course.
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Walking what is it? What was the movie?
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I forget the name
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of the movie. But, yeah. Wait. Freaked out. Michael Douglas, like, had enough? Mhmm.
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Yeah. No. He Yeah. He slams beers twenty four seven. He’s constantly drinking Budweiser. Yeah. Ai never seen him without a Budweiser in his hand. How it works? Yeah. Is he great?
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37:04
Oh, he’s a smart guy. Yeah. He’s a funny guy too. He just the Proud Boys thing was just sai if he had never done that, he would be, like, a well, a famous commentator to me. Yeah. Ai, you think about like like Ai Bannon, all these other guys, like, he’s way funnier than any of those guys. Oh, yeah. He’s very insightful.
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37:21
Like, he’s right about a lot of things. He, like, picks up on trends and culture and sees where people are going and and he was aware of, like, the dangers of Marx Marxism and a lot of this fucking ridiculous leftist ideology that they’re pushing in universities, like, way before anybody else was.
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Yeah. There’s this documentary that just came out about all about him ram one of the guys, Thomas, that used to work for Ai. He was, like, one of the original reporters for Vice. He did all, like, of the the early stuff. And, he made this documentary all about Gavin, and it’s, like, focuses on the transformation from, like, early punk rock
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37:55
Mhmm.
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Like, liberal Gavin in The UK with, like, the mobs and the rockers. To, like, the current Gavin, which is, like you know, he frames him as just, like, ai super right wing racist dude. And, you know, I was asking Gavin about it because he came on the podcast recently. And, he’s like, I’ve always been the same.
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He’s ai, he he was explaining that his views never changed. He was just saying that, like, Vice, all of a sudden, was getting infused with millions of corporate dollars, and I wasn’t a good look for that. They didn’t want me in there. But ai, he was, like, the whole soul of Ai. Like, if there was no Gavin, there was no Vice.
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Like, all the controversial do’s and don’ts shit and, like, all those controversial articles about, like, trans and trans shit early in, like, the early two thousands that he was doing was funny. And, like, culture didn’t look at it the way it looks at it today, you know.
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Well, he was being attacked for things that are, like, openly discussed today, ai, the dangers of trans ai. And that these are just meh. And a lot of these men are doing it because they’re perverts. And so they’re they’re they’re ai and, you know, autogynephilia is a real thing.
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39:01
It’s men who get sexually aroused. They’re pretending that they’re women and they sana go into women’s spaces and be sexually aroused. You know, now people are saying that openly. Right? Like, was it what was the university that, Leah Thomas was swimming in? Penn. Penn? Okay. So they have to take away all of air quotes, tyler gold medals.
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It’s a ai. Like Yeah. Has a penis, has sex with women Yeah. Supposedly, according to Tony Hinchcliffe. That’s my number one source of news.
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But he actually has a bit about it. It’s really funny. But the the the university now has to apologize to all the women that were forced to compete with them and, you know, say they fucked up and never do it again and not allow biological men to compete with women, which is, like, it should be that should be a left wing perspective.
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39:49
Mhmm. Not that you shouldn’t be able to be trans. Of course, you should be able to do whatever you want, you know. I’m I’m for you doing whatever you want if you don’t hurt other people. Right. If you really believe you’re a woman and look.
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39:59
If you can get fake tits and you can get fake lips and you can get a dick enlargement and, like, do whatever you wanna do. I don’t care. Do whatever you wanna do. I’m covered with tattoos. I’ve made stupid decisions. Ai, do whatever you wanna do. Mhmm.
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But, when you’re competing with women, you are essentially victimizing these women. You’re you’re forcing these women to compete with men who’ve been through puberty. And in this case, still have a functional penis, like, which is fucking bananas. That’s a man. Just because you think you’re a woman, you you physically, we know there’s a difference. Yeah.
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I didn’t know it was a giant problem until there was that fighter, Fallon Fox, who had competed twice against women without letting them know that this person was a biological male for thirty years, fathered a child, the whole deal. I’m like, this is crazy. And that his response was, it’s a medical condition, so I don’t have to disclose this. You know, it’s medical information, which is just horseshit.
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Yeah. It’s it’s crazy. And when I was saying that, I got attacked, like, over and over and over again. I go, woah. This is from the left.
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41:00
Like, the left has no problem with a mentally ill man beating the shit out of women. Mhmm. Falsely claiming that they’re what not even allowing these women to know. These women think they’re gonna go compete in a low level MMA ai. Like, a lot of them didn’t look good.
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They, like, didn’t look like they’re well trained, and they’re competing against a biological man without having any idea. One of them got a fractured skull. You know, it’s ai, that’s when I would realize, like, oh, this is just a cult. This isn’t the left that I grew up with.
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You know, I grew up with parents that were hippies. And so, like, my whole life, I was left wing. I I felt like that was the only way to be. But when you see the left allowing this bizarre loophole where perverts can pretend to be women. Right.
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Compete with women, fight with women, beat them up, be be in their their locker rooms, walk around naked with their dick hanging out, no one can say anything. Ai, how did they switch? How did they flip it on its head that, like, at any other time in history, if a man had a penis, sai walking through a young girl’s locker room, you’d be in real fucking trouble, rightly so.
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Mhmm. Because that’s not a thing that you should want to do. Yeah. That’s a weird thing to wanna rock walk around naked with your dick hanging out in front of a bunch of women. That’s that’s a creepy sexual thing. Period.
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Yeah. Yeah. Unless you’re like Nero. You’re not doing that. Yeah. Even Nero. Sick fuck. But, like, another thing Gavin was pointing out, he he showed me this New York Ai or not New Times, this Time Magazine cover from, like, a couple months ago. And it was all about how tomboys are going extinct.
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Mhmm.
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You’ve seen that? Yeah. Yeah. It’s incredible.
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42:36
Yeah. Because they’re turning
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them all off. They’re cutting their tits off and turning them
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all off. Cutting their tits off. And and and then giving them fake dicks. I was watching this operation today.
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You watched an operation?
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I I watched excuse meh. I should say this. I was watching a video in the post op. I ai I I saw images of the operation. That was enough.
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But it was
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this poor person who, decided they wanted a pee standing up. That was all they wanted from this fake dick. So they have these enormous scars on their leg where they take a giant chunk of flesh out of your thigh and roll it up and make a penis out of it. And they had to do it to both legs for some reason. Maybe one of them didn’t work real real well. But how old was this person? They sounded young.
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They didn’t show their face. You know, it’s it’s fucking insane because a lot of these people unfortunately are autistic. And, and then there’s this other factor when you give them testosterone, it does alleviate anxiety because all of a sudden, you know, you have this new hormone in abundance in your system.
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Yeah. And you feel different. You feel better. You feel more confident, which is ai the same way men feel when they have more testosterone. It’s ai, then all of a sudden you’re, oh, this is who I was all along. Like, no. No. No.
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43:37
You’re taking a fucking compound that’s forcing your body to change. Like, this is not who you were. You’re not affirming your identity. You’re doing something that’s altering your hormonal structure and turning you into a man. Like, you might feel good, but this is not ai your true self. This is crazy.
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Yeah. Like, I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to do it. If you wanna do if you’re a woman and you wanna take testosterone and be a man or be more manly Mhmm. I don’t I I feel like Sai don’t know if it’s the best decision for you, but I’m not you. And I’m I believe in freedom.
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I believe in 100% human freedom as long as you’re not hurting other people. Yeah. My my my beef with it is, like, it translated into them invading women’s spaces. And, you know, that’s crazy. That’s crazy because you you leave the loophole for perverts.
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There could be a lot of them that legitimately trans people that feel like they are in the wrong body, and they wanna live their life as a woman. And when they live their life as a woman, they feel healthier. They feel better. They’re happier. And also, crazy people.
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And if you don’t have a way of determining who is just a pervert, who just wants to hang out in the women’s locker room and shah everybody his dick Yeah. And who is a legit a legitimate person with gender dysphoria. And then another that’s the other thing that, like, Tucker had a really good good point about this.
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He said if someone has anorexia, you don’t tell them, yeah, you’re fat. Yeah, you’re fat. You’re right. You’re correct. Even though you look like a skeleton, you need to lose weight. No. You tell them you arya you’re mentally ill. This is incorrect. You’re not overweight.
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In fact, you have body dysmorphia. You can’t see what you really look like, which we know is a real condition. Like, it it’s a real condition with anorexia. It’s even a real condition with bodybuilders. It’s a real condition Yeah.
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Real condition when people get plastic surgery, where they get crazy lips and crazy cheeks, and they can’t see it. They can’t see it. They can’t see themselves. See. It’s nuts.
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They turn themselves into, like, all the girls looking like Jar Jar Binks walking around and down
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Ai look like monsters. They look like monsters. And it doesn’t look good, and they keep keep tweaking and fucking with it. And they they can’t see it because it’s a mental illness. It’s the same kind of thing. Like, the human mind is incredibly fragile. That’s why jolly west was fascinated with trying all these MK Ultra techniques and different compounds on people’s brains because human people can be manipulated, like, very easily. Shah easily.
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Not all of us.
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Right.
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Right? Like, you and me are probably pretty skeptical. There’s a lot of skeptical people out there, but there’s a bunch of people that are not skeptical at all. They’re super gullible. And when an ideology forms, they step in ai, and they they follow that ideology verbatim to the line. Yeah.
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They speak the things that they’re supposed to say to the ai, because they think that’s what they’re supposed to do in order to be in the good graces of this community that they find themselves in. It’s a fucking cult. Yeah. And there’s a shit ton of cults. It’s not just the moonies. It’s not just, you know, whatever, fill in the blank.
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46:30
It’s all sorts of political ideologies. It’s MAGA. It’s it’s, the far left. It’s Yeah. The the people that are cheering for this guy in New York City that’s a communist.
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46:40
Ai, didn’t
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he just promise a bunch of money for a transition surgeries?
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Yay. Yeah. It’s nuts.
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Government run grocery stores and all
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that stuff. But he
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didn’t win yet. He’s just the he won the primary.
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46:48
He’s gonna win. You know? He has a 100% because the other guy is the fucking Guardian Angels guy. The other guy is Curtis Sliba, the the guy ai wears the goofy beret. Oh, really? Yeah. That’s the guy who won the Republican side. Nobody wants to be a Republican mayor of New York City because they know they can’t win. Mhmm.
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47:04
So they’re not, like This guy’s to
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the left of Bill de Blasio.
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47:06
Oh, he’s way to the left. Yeah. And he’s young, and he’s energetic, and he’s saying all the right things for all these kids that are in the streets that are protesting. You know, they think they wanna make the world a better place, which, hey, I would have been doing it with you if I was 20. Mhmm.
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It’s all the same thing, man. It’s all the same thing. You can get indoctrinated into particular way of thinking without being objective about what’s actually going on. You know, all these these people that are, like, just running through the street now, saying free Iran. Like, yeah, free Iran from a dictatorship. Absolutely.
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But if you’re saying, like, wear scarves over your head and being forced to do what the Iranian government wants you to do and live like they live over there. No. They they don’t live free. Right. Like, they they assassinated the fucking Olympic gold medalist in Russia in in wrestling rather, in in Iran because he was protesting against the government.
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Like, those are national heroes and kill them openly. Like, it’s not a good place to live.
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Right.
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You know? And I’m not saying we should bomb them, but, like, being in support of Iran the Iranian people, yeah, for sure. But that government is nuts, man. Vatsal like, you know, trans people for Hamas. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there’s there’s people that are just they’re not seeing what you’re talk they’re not seeing the big picture.
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Yeah. There’s so many contradictions out there, man. It’s really hard to follow it all.
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48:22
It’s because it’s a cult.
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And there are and I think a huge amount of the Iranian population supports Israel too. And it’s ai, you would never fucking know that unless ai, like, talk to them or listen
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to some
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of these interviews with these people.
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48:33
A ton of Persian Jews that moved to Los Angeles. You know? Yeah. That was ai at the fall I guess, it was in the seventies when, so this is the story for people that don’t know about Iran. So there was a gentleman who was democratically elected. I forget his name. Moga what what is his name? Moga I’m gonna fuck it up.
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So he decided that he was gonna nationalize oil in Iran. And they got him out like that. They installed the Shah and turned it into an Islamic dictatorship, but they had access to the oil. So the CIA and the the British government and everybody conspired Mhmm. To get rid of this democratically elected ai. Because Iran at the time was, like, you women were wearing shorts or skirts rather, walking down the street. It looked cool.
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49:20
Here it is. Mohammed Mosaddegh.
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Mosaddegh.
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Mosaddegh. Okay. So let’s let’s zoom in on the story here. It says, Iranian ai minister Mohammed Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup organized and financed by British and US governments. The Shah quickly returned to take power and signed off over 40% of Iran’s oil fields to US companies. It’s crazy, man. It’s ai it’s so transparent.
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They didn’t even wait a couple of years. They didn’t even well, the Sai shah in power now. We’ll see how things go. Right. No.
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They immediately came in and signed everything off. Yep. 1953, the CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup d’etat that toppled the democratically elected government of Iran. The government of Mohammed Mosaddegh, the aftershocks of the coup are still being felt. ’51 prime minister Mosaddegh roused Britain Britain’s ire when he nationalized the oil industry.
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So the oil, they weren’t making money off the oil. They were making money, but not as much money as, the British were. Yeah. It it being exclusively controlled by the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. The company later became known as the British Petroleum.
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This time is different though. We don’t
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want it this time. They’re the same people that dumped all the oil in The Gulf. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That’s BP. Mhmm. After considering military action, Britain opted for a coup d’etat. President Harry Truman rejected the ai, but when Dwight Eisenhower took over the White House, he ordered the CIA to embark on one of its first covert operations against a foreign government.
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And Iran’s been fucked ever since. Mhmm. I mean, we’ve been doing stuff like ai, not we, not you and I, not me and Danny Jones. We’re innocent. But the United States government, especially the intelligence agencies in the days, you know, before they assassinated Kennedy. Mhmm.
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51:02
You know, they were they were doing all kinds of wild shit. Oh, yeah. And this We’re done now.
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We don’t do that anymore. They don’t do that shit anymore.
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They definitely don’t.
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No. No. They would never they don’t care every shit about the oil over there.
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51:12
No. This government’s America First now. We’re legit. America First.
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It’s it’s a crazy history.
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And really don’t know the history. You go, like, why are we mad at the Iranians? Mhmm. Well, why they mad at us? Okay. Like, what did we do to them? Yeah. Like, why how did how did these these Islamic jihadists come to power? Mhmm. Like, where did it all start?
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51:32
Well, go back to the mujahideen. Mhmm. We literally changed their definition of jihad. Like, we we wanted them to become suicide bombers. We wanted them to to do things and martyr themselves.
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51:44
So we it was the original definition of jihad, look this up, but I’m pretty sure it was a war against your own vices. This is Really? Yep. Yeah. That’s the ai was you were trying to be a good Muslim, a pure Muslim. You were trying to avoid impure thoughts, no alcohol, all these different things.
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And they twisted that around with jihadists and through the CIA and Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahideen Mhmm. To fight off the Soviet Union. Right. When the Soviet Union occupied Afghanistan. Ai, Osama bin Laden was our guy. Right. He was working for us. Yeah. And he’s ai, these fucking people suck.
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Yeah. There was a story how his, like, pancreas fell.
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A struggle against the enemies of Islam, a spiritual struggle within oneself against sin. Greatest jihad. Yeah. It sounds great. Ain’t that interesting? A spiritual struggle within oneself against sin.
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Yeah. I mean Yeah. Just reading it sounds like
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So it seems like it’s more than one definition. There’s probably
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so many background versions.
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The other one is declared a jihad against the infant scroll back down again. Struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam. So it’s two things. But they made it, you know. Yeah. They they they did a lot of mind fucking to those people, and they put them on a ward they couldn’t win again to try to do the same thing that they were doing with the rocket program with everything else.
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They were trying to outspend the Soviets. They were trying to bankrupt them.
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Yeah. That part of the world is just, like, how much of it has to do with the fact that we’ve been occupying that area that that part of the world for so long and, like, going out there, killing all the bad ai, and then the kids seeing their families being slaughtered. And then, like, okay. We’re gonna eliminate terrorism. Let’s take out these bad guys. But then the kids grow up, and you realize it’s just the hydra.
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You cut the head off, and three grow back. Well, if
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you wanna be even more cynical, we pay them and we arm them. Yes. And we left behind billions of dollars of shit Yeah. In Afghanistan that they use for parades now. They drive down the street with arrow tanks. Yeah. They have our Black Hawks flying overhead. Mhmm.
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It’s all the shit we left. Billions of dollars. Mhmm. Like, you couldn’t have got that out? Well, do you think they leave it there so that these people were always formidable and they always leave open the door to go back in?
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Yeah.
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I think so. I think that’s I don’t think that’s the primary reason why they did it. Mhmm. But Ai gotta assume that that would be on the table if it’s been on the table in the past. Our arming people in the past has always been a thing that we do. I mean, it’s a Bill Hicks joke about Iraq.
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54:22
You know, it’s ai, they have the most deadly weapons. How do you know? Well, we looked through the receipts. Ai butchered the joke, but Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But, you know Yeah. We’ve always been doing that.
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Of course.
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We’ve done that forever.
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54:37
Yeah. What’s the bill what’s the my favorite Bill Hicks joke, at least, I don’t I’m not like a a historian on Bill Hicks, but the one where he’s talking about, the Sai puppets. He’s like Yeah. I like this guy on the right. He seems like he fits my my ideas. He’s like, well, I I think he’d fancy the guy on the left. He’s like, what the fuck? The same guy’s holding both the puppets.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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Ai mean, that’s perfect. It perfectly illustrates the way the way it is. You know?
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Yeah. And again, this was before we really knew things. This was Bill Hicks was saying this in the nineteen nineties where he just had books. So, you know, it
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was Right.
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55:05
It was really hard to get these ideas across. Mhmm. He would have been a great podcast guest. Oh, hell yeah. You know? Because he was, like, saying these things when no one even knew what he was saying, you know. And he was putting it into comedy. You know, like, people then were not nearly as aware of the manipulation of money and power.
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55:24
They really thought a lot of people thought that the will of the people, you know, the president we gotta get a good president in there that looking out for us and Mhmm. They didn’t really understand that it’s all being bought and paid by special interest groups, large corporations, huge donors, and that when the guy gets in there, he’s just representing the same thing no matter what.
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Yeah. The amount of reading and insight and learning that that guy was a lot of those dudes were able to do back then pre Internet
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55:49
Yeah.
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Is astonishing. Yeah. And to be able to, like, internalize and process those ideas and rework them with draft after draft and refine it into, like, the most perfect way to communicate it to people to where it lands. You know, it’s just it’s fucking crazy. And in today’s day and age, it’s almost ai you would think it would be easier with all of the access to information, but it seems like it might even be harder because there’s just too much information.
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56:13
Like, last night listening to you talk was fucking incredible, dude. Like, listening to how you were at the end doing this, like, the q and a with the crowd. You’re ai, I ram out of jokes. Who wants to ask me questions? And you like, you were just on another gear, dude.
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56:26
It’s ai you’re so high octane and you’re so, like, up to speed with everything that’s happening around the world at all times. It’s it’s mind blowing to me how you’re able to do this stuff, how you’re able to stay up, do comedy late, do podcasts every day, and be, like, up to speed with all the news, and, like, have, like, thought out, like, thought through a lot of these things that just happened yesterday.
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56:46
I’m just fascinated by that, dude.
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56:48
Well, that’s all I ai, you know, when you do when you only pay attention to fascinating things, like, like things that are interesting to you. And they’re also interesting to the audience. But, I mean, I don’t have a regular job. Right? Sai this is my job. Yeah.
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57:00
This is my job to kinda pay attention to stuff. Yeah. You know, and have opinions on things. And then the tricky thing is taking those opinions and ai to make them funny. You know, trying to, like, put it in a way that’s gonna be hilarious Yeah.
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On stage.
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57:13
What do you think about the, that this Diddy thing that just happened this morning?
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57:16
Where he Kinda crazy. He’s free. I’ll tell you what. Kurt Metzger called this from the beginning. And especially when you found out that Comey’s daughter was going to be the, the judge. Did you know that? No. I did not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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57:29
Wasn’t she the same judge on the Ghislaine Maxwell case?
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Yeah. Oh, yes. I did hear this.
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57:35
Yeah. Bro, where’s the videos? They were telling us the videos are gonna come out incredibly high profile people doing horrendous things, evil things. People are gonna go to jail. People are gonna be shocked. Yeah. Where? Right. Nothing. Well, like Zero.
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57:49
My thing about the Diddy thing is, like, I don’t really give a fuck. These people are all they’re of age. They’re over they’re, like, 18 years old. And is it shitty what he’s doing ai to, like, use people and leverage them and to do these weird sexual things and, like, sick shah?
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58:08
Just the most sick shit you could possibly think of. But, like, the way I I look at it is these people are using this Diddy stuff. It all it does is, like, take away from the real child trafficking that’s going on with, like, underage kids. Right? There’s, like, what, 300,000 something, like, missing kids.
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58:27
Like, talking about Diddy and his oil parties with these 18 year olds, like, do I think it’s good? No. I I wanna beat up their dad, but other than that, I don’t really give a fuck if there’s, like, 18 to 19 year olds that are doing this stuff as long as they’re not being, like, actually, like, physically raped.
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58:43
But, I mean, it seems like what’s going on is just, like, this weird cultish thing where they they slowly get you get creep tore creep closer and closer and closer to this thing, like, oh, I’m here now. All these famous people are here. They’re doing this, like
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58:57
Elaborate parties. Yeah. Oh, lots of money, everything you want, the golden carrot at the end of the stick.
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Right. So the
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thing is he’s not even being charged for any of the things he just brought up. He’s not being charged for blackmail Right. Which is kinda crazy because, like, what did they do? Why did they tell us that there was all these videos of all these high profile people and then ai, and then it never comes up once during the ai.
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59:18
There’s none of that stuff in the trial. In the trial, it was his ex girlfriend Cassie. They were talking about so, like, he’s he’s up for there’s two charges left and it’s ai prostitution, something it’s like nothing stuff. It’s like stuff that he’s gonna go to jail for, like, five years, if at all, and probably won’t. Right.
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59:35
And he’s already been in jail for sai, like, what does time serve now? It’s over a year. Right?
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59:39
Yeah. No. I think he’s gonna walk, dude. I meh,
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59:41
I don’t know if he’s gonna walk too. And this is what Kurt Metzger called a long time ago. As soon as he saw that it was, Comey’s daughter, he was ai, oh, he’s gonna walk. Trust me. He’s gonna walk. There’s a bunch of high profile people that are connected to this. Yeah. They’re covering it all up. If he goes down, they go down.
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59:57
So he’s not gonna go down. Right. So that’s the thing, like, if if he really if he really did have, like, really wealthy ai profile people at his parties, which we know he did, you know? Diddy prosecutors bryden multiple allegations against rapper Days for Ai End. Hey, Luke. He says Wow. Hey, remember I called it? This is Kurt Metzger on Twitter.
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Because James Comey’s daughter is the prosecutor. Remember how well she slept up swept up on the Ghislaine Trail? Yep. Hey. Who else called it?
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Yep.
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I can’t be the only one. Yeah. He called it. Yep. He called it in the fucking he called it in the fucking green room of the mother shah ai when he found out. He goes, he’s gonna walk. I’m like, what are you talking about? Have you heard these these charges? Yeah. He’s going to go to jail. Yeah. No. Metzger was right.
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Mhmm. Yep. And then we’re we, I don’t know what happened with his life.
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01:00:44
And you don’t think they could fake the moon landing? Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. They they got videotape and all of a sudden they don’t, you know. You have the director of the FBI on the show saying there’s no if there was, not not nothing you’re looking for is on those tapes. Like, what?
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Why did they say there was thousands of hours of tapes of people doing horrible shit?
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Why did
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they say that?
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Right.
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Didn’t Pam Bondi say that?
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What? Are you talking about Epstein or did it?
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Yeah. Epstein.
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Epstein. Yeah. She said it literally, I think, a week before you had the FBI director sitting here taught telling you there was nothing.
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Right? She said something about that there was, like, thousands of hours of tapes of people doing horrible crimes.
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There is. And didn’t the FBI dude say that there was nothing?
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01:01:26
Kash Patel said there’s nothing you’re looking for. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, what am I gonna do? I’m gonna push back. Right.
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No. Of course. Sai understand.
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He’s saying what he has to say. Right. Mystery surrounds the Jeffrey Epstein files after Bondy claims tens of thousands of videos. Tens of thousands. Jesus Christ.
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Tell you what.
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Chill oh ai god. Was reviewing tens of thousands of videos, the wealthy financial financier with children or child porn. The comment meant made to reporters the White House days after a similar remark to a stranger with a hidden camera raised the stakes for president Donald Trump’s administration to prove it has in its possession previously unseen capelli documents or just bomb Ram.
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01:02:10
And everybody forgets that. Just bomb Iran. Yeah. Everybody forgets about it.
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Yeah. It seems crazy that we’re just ai, it like, you would I would think just Trump’s demeanor, his MO towards other countries, like, if we’re the ones funding them, giving them all this money, and they’re trying to fight a war, like, typically, he would be putting their boot his boot on their neck, like, listen, you motherfucker.
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Like, he’s talking shit. Right? Like, you have to do what I want you to do. And it it just seems like and now, I think it just came out a couple days ago that, they’re trying to prosecute Netanyahu. Right? And then Right.
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Trump’s helping with it, I think. Trying to help him Netanyahu in that in that whole rigmarole.
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01:02:50
Well, they’re trying to try him while he’s
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01:02:53
Yeah.
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Yeah. While he’s in office. Right.
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And I think that And
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he’s trying to delay it because he’s like, ai, we’re at war. Right. And they ai to go through with it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think something came out, I think, a couple days ago. I could be wrong, but I was listening to, I was listening to Dave Smith talk about how Trump was actually, like, helping him through this. I don’t know. I could be wrong.
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01:03:10
Okay. Here it says, during a Fox News Channel interview in February, Bondi suggested an alleged Epstein client list was sitting on her desk.
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01:03:17
Yeah. Well, the list is one thing. Right? I mean, there’s so many people on the list that are probably innocent. But I they’re Right.
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01:03:25
They just went to the island for a party.
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No. There gotta be a fucking hard drive.
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It’s gotta be.
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Sitting in Tel Aviv right now.
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01:03:31
Yeah. That’s Listen. The other part of this too. They asked Colleen Maxwell’s lawyers with their shit. Where was it?
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It’s up here. He had, like, a 100 cameras in that pen in every single house.
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01:03:45
Do you
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know his house is for sale in New York? That’s amazing. Yeah. And She picked out a podcast studio.
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01:03:50
No. My wife found it on, Trulia or whatever it is.
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01:03:53
Yeah. Yeah.
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01:03:53
One of the maps. And she’s ai, look at this Butte because we were in the townhouse? Yeah. Like, it’s not a townhouse. It’s it’s a house. It’s ai it’s a big ass house. It’s like multiple stories.
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01:04:03
The one right across the street from Central Park? Uh-huh.
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Yeah. Yeah. That one. It’s for sale right now. How much? I think it was, like, 60 or 70,000,000, something like that, which is what it’s worth. But who wants to live in the Epstein house? First of all, if if I bought that house, I’d want the Clinton painting. Can you give me that painting? Yeah.
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01:04:21
Yeah. Clinton and the blue dress?
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Come with all that shit inside.
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I ai George Bush with with the Jenga towers Oh. And the paper airplanes. I want all of it. And then the
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lady just died too. The lady got hit by a car, one of the witnesses. Yeah. One of the Jeffrey Epstein witnesses. And then apparently, she had, like, a husband who was abusing her. And, you know, people like to it’s just like people like to use this stuff as as ai a a political football to, like, argue Mhmm.
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For, whatever they believe in.
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And also, when you get rich powerful people so here’s the thing that happens with rich powerful people, they can’t go anywhere. Right? If you’re, ai, say, a Jeff Bezos type or someone who’s ai an Elon Musk ai, let’s just and I’m not accusing them any of anything. I’m not saying I’m just saying at that caliber of celebrity Mhmm. And that caliber of prominence, you can’t go anywhere. If you’re Bill Clinton back in the eighties Yeah.
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Or the nineties, whatever it was, you can’t go party, you know? Right. Everybody knows who you are. You gotta be protected. Right? But you want these experiences.
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And so you have these guys, like a Jeffrey Epstein type guy, who works with the elite of the elite clientele. It’s all movie stars, big time politicians, world leaders, scientists, Nobel Ai winners, and they all meet together and have fascinating conversations and cocktails, and there’s beautiful girls everywhere.
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01:05:36
Of course. What a great idea. Right. And if you’re naive and you don’t understand honeypots. Accusers from what was inside the house in New York. Okay.
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She said, there were monitors inside this cabinet. I looked on the cameras, and I saw toilet, toilet, bed, bed, tyler, she said, visibly spooked. Like, I’m never gonna use the restroom here, and I’m never gonna sleep here. You know what I mean? It was very obvious that they were, like, monitoring private moments.
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Yeah. Of course.
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Maria Farmer was the one who worked at at Epstein’s office in New York, I think.
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And this was the house, Jamie? Yeah. I was looking up stuff on the house. I was like, what they found out. Still has fucking cameras in it somewhere that they haven’t found yet. They definitely oh, hell. Don’t know. Yeah. You’d have to scan the shit out of that house.
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You’d have to take the walls apart. There’s probably listening devices inside the walls. Like, who knows? If this was, like, really an intelligence operation yeah. They probably had that house fully wired.
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Maria Farmer, I
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think she was the chick who was working the front desk at his office in Manhattan. And this is, like, a a funny example of, like, what I like to do. My mom is super left wing. She’s a ai has her degree in fine arya. Oh, boy. And, she still is, like, an art professor. And my dad is a ex post office worker, And he’s only watches Fox.
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So my my dad only watches Fox. They’re divorced. My mom only watches CNN. Jesus. Why don’t they stay together? How weird. Who who knows?
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And, they I I like to, like, take things that are happening and then controversial things, like, for Epstein example. And I like to just, like, call my mom and argue with her. Like, argue my dad argue the right wing side against my mom’s point of view on Epstein, and then I’ll call my dad and I’ll make the same argument toward the the opposite argument towards him.
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It’s like a fucking, thought experiment or like a a critical thinking exercise.
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You use your parents.
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And my mom my mom, you know, she’ll be like, of course. Like, Ram. There’s the there’s more footage of Trump with Epstein than anybody. Are you kidding me? He’s parting with him here? Like, of course, he’s compromised. And then my dad’s like, it’s fucking Clinton, bro. It’s ai it’s only Bill Clinton. Look.
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01:07:37
He’s he’s the only one on the Epstein files. Of course, we know he’s a pervert, all this stuff. But, like and then you have so the funny thing is both sides will use their little batch of evidence to support their idea and ignore the opposite. Right? So, like, the lady the girl you were just talking about, Virginia, she was literally on video saying that, all the shit about Bill Clinton on the jet going to the island, hanging out with Trump and all this stuff.
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And the right wing people, like like, people I know, my parents, and, like, older folks I know in Florida, will say, you know, she came out. Thank you for exposing Bill Clinton, for being a speak and doing all this stuff. And, Virginia Giuffre, after this happened, she’s like, you guys didn’t listen to the whole fucking tape.
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She’s like, I was telling you that Trump was at the penthouse three days a week and visit visiting him, but you guys don’t wanna hear that. And it’s ai, you know, it’s just this weird thing. Like, if you do the math, there’s there’s gotta be it’s gotta be so many high level powerful people that are somehow compromised.
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And do I think do I think, like, Clinton and these guys are pitos? No. I don’t think that at all. But if you were Jeffrey Epstein, you would, I think it’s super plausible to assume that he would try to trick them with, like, a girl who looks old. Right?
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Right. Who is possibly, like, on the borderline of being 18. And you say, oh, yeah. This girl, she’s 18, 19, 20, whatever. Meanwhile, she’s, like, 17, and they had no ai, and they have video footage.
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And in, like, a court of law, if I’m the judge, I’m gonna let him like, of course, they fucking lied to him. And this is not, like, some young girl, obviously. But but they lied. Yeah. But, like, in in, like, the court of public opinion, you’re never gonna win in that case. Right?
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Ai, if
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that comes out, you’re fucked.
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You’re fucked. I mean, you’re fucked if you just go into the island to bang hookers. Like, it’s like they’re of age. It’s still, like, whatever he was doing, you you prayed on people’s desire for experiences and ai. Yes. And all these powerful people who again, they can’t just go call a hooker and the hooker goes, oh, my God. I just blew Bill Gates. This is nuts.
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You know what I mean? Like, you can’t trust them. So you have to trust someone who really has a lockdown organization, and they felt like he did. Yeah. And that’s why they all can they all hung out with him even after he got arrested. This is what’s crazy.
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That was crazy.
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A lot of Bill Gates meetings with him were after he was prosecuted, And he got this little slap on the wrist, and he got essentially home detainment. And I think he had to do, like, weekends at the jail. Like, it was it was a crate for underage sex for, you know, what’s what’s supposed to be a felony. The whole thing is crazy.
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And then when there’s one reporter that really chased it down, I forget her name, but she really, like, really looked into it. And that’s when they opened up the second case, the second trial. Vicki Ward. Vicki Ward. Was she from what paper? Vanity Fair. Vanity Fair.
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01:10:37
So she was responsible for, ai, because she was like, this is insane. Like, how what’s going on here? And then there was the sheriff that had arrested him, said that I was told he was intelligence. And I mean, you gotta think, meh. If a guy like that is running these kind of parties with all these rich and powerful people, how many different worldwide decisions can be manipulated because of these people and the compromises you have on them.
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01:11:05
Right. It’s really a brilliant thing to do Yeah. For ram an intelligence perspective.
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Yeah. It really is, man. And, like, this the way that the world is shaping out now and this, like, rise of Jew hate online is and I think a lot of it’s bots, you know. I think I think it’s coming from every angle, you You know? I think it’s probably a lot of a lot of propaganda and bots coming from Iran, coming from Israel, Saudi. Who knows where it’s all coming from?
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01:11:35
It’s just such a confusing crock of shit on the Internet. But, like, you know, on one hand, they were able to pull off some incredible fucking operations. And, you know, on the other hand, we get mad. Now now that it gets exposed, we get get mad that they have their hooks in us and the people that are in power, whatever the politicians are, the puppets, just, like, bend the knee to whatever they’re doing.
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01:12:00
And it gets exposed when people like Tucker did that interview with Ted Cruz.
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01:12:05
Mhmm.
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And he had him on his heels the whole time. That was that was incredible. That was a fucking, a biblical fucking, interview with Ted Cruz. And that really, like, pulled the mask off because, like, if that guy’s if that guy is explaining his his position on Israel being in Congress and that’s his number one thing that made him wanna be a congressman.
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It’s ai, what are all these other people doing then? Like, if there’s all these all this money, and you can see the receipts, how much money they’re being given Right. By these lobbies. But, like, how how mad can you get? Because they we let them do it. They’re legally allowed to do it.
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01:12:42
Yeah. You could be mad, but you really should be mad at the politicians. Yeah. The corrupt politicians and how many of them there are. And, like, look look at the mayoral race where they all were saying, my first trip, I’m gonna go to Israel.
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Oh, yeah. Except for the dude. Except for, what’s his name?
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01:12:57
He said he’s gonna stay in New York. The communist. Yeah. He’s ai, I’m gonna take care of the Jews in New York. Boom. Checkmate. That was it. That literally won it for him. Mhmm. Because everybody else, like, what are you guys talking about? Like, New York is fucked. Take care of this goddamn city.
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01:13:09
Why what what what’s this loyalty and allegiance to Israel from the New York City mayors?
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01:13:16
Mhmm.
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The people that are candidates for mayor? Ai, your your number one concern is Israel? That seems odd. Seems odd. Unless you’re getting a ton of money.
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01:13:25
Mhmm.
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You know? Unless they have some video footage.
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01:13:29
Yeah. Yeah. The more I think about the more I think about politics and just look at the news cycle every day, I just feel like I get dumber.
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01:13:36
It’s a dumb business. It’s a dumb dumb, dirty business. It really is, dude.
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01:13:41
Just ai sometimes I’m just, like, not motivated to read the daily news, you know. Like, I was I was telling this to Gavin too. I was like I was like ai, to focus on the culture wars twenty four seven, March, and and fucking talk about it all day is draining, dude.
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01:13:57
Yeah. You can’t. It’s bad. It’s bad for you. Yeah. That’s why people that are on social media all day, they’re poisoned. There was some study recently. I think it was Columbia. I I forget what university, but they paid people to stay off social media for, a certain amount of time.
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01:14:14
And they they said that the results were superior to therapy. See if you can find that. Mhmm. So they I think a a large percentage of the mental illness that we have in this country is is greatly accentuated by social media. Mhmm.
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01:14:30
I think people that are on it all day, I think it’s extremely addictive. I think the conflict raises your the the whole anxiety that you have about conflict in society. Stanford paid 35,000 people to find out if quitting Instagram made you happier. Yeah. This is it. And so what was the results? Landmark study on digital well-being.
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01:14:54
Yeah.
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Ran two parallel experiments with Facebook and Instagram as a perspective focal pattern platform rather. For each, focal platform, Meta grew a stratified random sample of users who in The US who are age 18 or older had logged in at least once a month, or at least once in the past month from August 31 to September 12.
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01:15:15
Meta placed survey invitations at the top of these users’ focal path, platform news feeds. Study explains on Facebook, a total of 10,600,000 users were invited to the study. 673,388 clicked the invitation, and 43,249 were willing to deactivate, consented to participate, and completed the enrollment survey.
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Yeah.
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Of these, 19,857 completed the baseline survey, could be linked to the platform data, and had at least fifteen minutes of baseline use per day. Sai what was the results? Modest but meaningful emotional gains. Findings were statistically significant, although modest in scale. Facebook deactivation led well, Facebook is ai a bunch of old people complaining about their neighborhood. Yeah.
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01:16:01
Led to a 0.06 standard deviation improvement. That’s not much. While Instagram deactivation yielded a 0.041 improvement, these gains represent approximately 15 to 22% of the benefits typically seen with established psychological intervention such as cognitive behavior therapy or mindfulness based intervention.
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01:16:24
So that’s not much. That’s twenty two percent of the benefits. Sai it’s a mild improvement.
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01:16:29
Yeah. But when you
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01:16:30
look at this though, the the, improvements weren’t equally distributed. Adults over 35 saw the most substantial benefit from leaving Facebook, whereas young women 25 experienced the most emotional uplift from an Instagram break. You know, women are getting fucked by that because they’re constantly comparing themselves to girls that are digitally arya altered and using filters and fucks with your self esteem and Yeah.
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01:16:52
It it’s I just think overall, it’s not good for us. No. And there’s a a large percentage of our society is addicted to it. Mhmm. And it’s new.
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01:17:01
It’s the dope it ai your dopamine reward system, you know. Like Ai sai, like, they call them dopamine ai, the your phone and the iPad and all this stuff is, like, they’re dopamine slot machines.
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01:17:10
Mhmm.
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01:17:10
And, like, the, you know, the way they fuck up your circadian rhythm, like, when you’re when you’re laying in bed at night scrolling and how that blue light in the phone just, like, pumps your brain full of energy and you can’t put it down. You’re just addicted, like, every scroll is ai another hit of the crack pipe, you know?
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01:17:26
That baby hit too. It’s not even ai, oh, feels so good. Right.
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01:17:30
It’s just gotta keep doing it.
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01:17:31
Most nothing hit ever. It’s like a Yeah. Just a little, Mhmm. What’s that? Ai, how weird. Yeah.
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01:17:37
And it, like, turns off a part of your brain too. Like, it turns off the thinking part.
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01:17:41
Mhmm. You
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know? Where, like, you just keep doing that thing, and you’re waiting for something good to hit. Something more to, like, charge your
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01:17:48
And it never comes.
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01:17:49
It never comes. Right? Please keep looking. Until you fucking look at the clock, and it’s, like, 3AM. And you’re, like, what the fuck You’re
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01:17:53
a fucking gold miner in a barren creek. Yeah. You’re just constantly gold mining. One day one day gold. One day I’m gonna find gold. I’m gonna find enlightenment on my Instagram. No. You know, you’re not you’re gonna fuck your head up.
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01:18:05
Yeah. No. I think it’s, I think it’s definitely atrophying the human brain.
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01:18:10
A 100%.
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And, that’s why I like these, like, these new tech technical computers and these different apps that are coming out that are, like, trying to be anti technology,
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01:18:20
you know. Mhmm.
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01:18:21
They’re, like, trying to make healthier computers and healthier phones that, ai,
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01:18:25
Oh, like that simple phone? Is that what it’s called?
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01:18:27
There’s a simple phone. There’s, like, the the the daylight computer thing, which is, like, an iPad with no blue light in it, and it has only it’s, like, ai like a Kindle on steroids, where there’s no blue light.
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01:18:38
Oh, so it looks like paper?
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01:18:39
Yeah. Look like it’s ai this is one of them right here, and it has, like
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01:18:42
Oh, you have one? Yeah.
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01:18:42
Yeah. I put I, like, make my notes on it, and then you it also has, like, the Ai. Can I
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see it?
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01:18:46
Yeah. Yeah. What is that called?
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01:18:48
This is called the, Ai Computer. Look at it. Oh. So I put Oh,
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01:18:53
that looks like sana old iPad.
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01:18:54
Yeah. It looks like an old iPad. This is, like, version one of what they’re doing. Mhmm. It’s fucking sick, dude.
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01:18:59
Yeah?
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01:19:00
Yeah. It’s, like, it’s you know, I don’t know if you ever used a Kindle, but, like Yeah. They have, like, a note taking thing, and it’s super slow when you draw on it. This thing is super fast. You can zoom in and out of shit super fast, like PDFs. And, when I sit and when I sit in bed and read if I use, like, a
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01:19:14
This looks good. Like, when you’re looking at it, it doesn’t fuck with your eyes at all. It looks like a piece of paper. Yeah. Wow.
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01:19:20
And look. Check this out. If you do, if you do this
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01:19:24
When did you decide to do this? To go switch over to this stuff?
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01:19:28
This is, like, in the last year. Oh, yeah? So look at that. So it’s all it’s, like, amber. Like Mhmm. So if I lay in bed at night and I’m reading, like, a PDF or a Kindle or something like this, I’m asleep in, like, forty five minutes. I the blue What’s
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01:19:40
going on with this, microphone? Oh, shit. Did you, disconnect it? Sure did. Yeah. Weird. Ai speak it?
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01:19:50
Check. Check. Check.
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01:19:51
Here we go. We’re back.
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01:19:52
So yeah.
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01:19:52
So amber ai.
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01:19:53
Yeah. Yeah. Amber light. And then, like, if so if I sit on my phone and read something Uh-huh. I can stay up all night or if I sit on my computer and read something, I stay up forever. This thing, I fall asleep. Ai literally it doesn’t keep me up. Cause it I don’t think I think because it doesn’t have the that blue light that’s baked into it.
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01:20:08
So you use that as your primary computer?
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01:20:10
No. No. No. I just use this for reading and, like, note taking and shit. I’ll, like, Ai, like, on every podcast I do, I’m just, like, taking notes on it because it stores on my ai, and then I just read Kindles on it and PDFs and stuff.
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01:20:18
And you write the notes by hand? Yep. Okay. So it has, ai, a little Yeah.
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01:20:22
It’s like a little sketchy thing and it’s, like, super quick.
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01:20:24
Oh. And it’s like
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01:20:25
it’s, like, it’s fucking amazing.
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01:20:26
You don’t type your notes? Does it have a keyboard? Can you type on it? Yep. It
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01:20:30
does. You can, it has it’s ai a it’s, like, basically, like an iPad. It’s like a Android iPad. So you could have ai
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01:20:35
an a Bluetooth keyboard.
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01:20:36
Keyboard, you can type on it and shit. Super quick, super responsive.
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01:20:40
And so what was the the thought process about switching to something like this? Because,
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01:20:46
like so I got introduced to the those guys when I started learning about, like, all this circadian rhythm stuff and how, like, all these devices hijack your dopamine system and all this stuff. And there’s, like, ai. There’s these guys that, they’re working on this new technology that’s, like, anti big tech mind control, all the apps and everything like that with all the colors and all the, you know, everything that just, like, fucks with your your brain and your eyes.
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01:21:12
And I was like, that’s interesting. They’re going in the opposite direction of normal tech and, like, Apple and all these things. So, I hit them up and they sent me one, and I was just, like, fucking blown away. I thought it was super cool. I could sit outside ai I like to I like to go outside, like, first thing in the morning when the sun’s rising and spend at least, like, two or three hours, like, during the beginning of the day because I feel it just, like, charges me up for the day.
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01:21:37
I feel better when I’m outside, especially in Florida. The sun’s really good. And, so I’ll I’ll go out there and I’ll read on this thing. I can’t read on anything else. My phone or, like, a a computer screen, there’s so much glare.
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01:21:48
Mhmm.
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01:21:49
This thing thrives in the outdoor sunlight. So it’s, like, it’s, like, perfect. It’s, like, reading, like, a a piece of paper.
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01:21:55
Would you think, like, it would be best if phones were like that? So you could read text meh?
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01:21:59
It would definitely be healthier. It would definitely meh healthier for us, but it wouldn’t You wouldn’t
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01:22:03
be able to look at pictures and videos the same way though. Right. It doesn’t have color. Right?
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01:22:07
Yeah. Yeah. This thing’s all black and white. Yeah. And with that amber backlight that you can throw on at night if you’re if you’re, like, inside or something like that.
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01:22:15
And sai, how much of it changes it had in, like, your routine because of this thing?
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01:22:19
It’s great because I if I’m reading shit, which I typically do in the morning and at night, I I don’t stay up all night. It it it encourages me to go outside more because, like, typically, when I’m trying to, like, absorb stuff or, like, listen to podcasts or, like, make notes or read read books, I can do it on that.
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01:22:36
And it works better outside. So it just makes me wanna go outside more, which I feel better when I’m outside more.
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01:22:42
Wow. That’s interesting, man. Yeah. What’s it called again?
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01:22:46
Daylight Computer. Daylight Computer.
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01:22:47
Yeah.
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01:22:48
Alright. It’s beautiful, man.
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01:22:49
I might check that out. Yeah. It’s cool. Ai don’t sana carry around another fucking thing though. Yeah. You got it.
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01:22:56
You know? You got all your phones and Yeah.
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01:22:57
All the bullshit I have to carry around. That’s big.
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01:23:00
Yeah. That’s
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01:23:00
sai nightmare. It is big.
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01:23:01
It fits in that little that little Patagonia bag. I just, like, ai it. I carry it, like, home and to home and, like, to the studio.
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01:23:06
How come it has those big stupid bezels? I don’t know.
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01:23:08
It’s the it’s version one. Right. Because
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01:23:10
it looks like they got some leftover iPad technology. Yeah. Or Kindle technology. Very interesting.
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01:23:18
It it definitely, you know, I think they’re gonna eventually try to improve that. Like I said, that’s like the version one. That’s like iPhone one for their thing, and they’re trying to
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01:23:26
like This is meh? Very new. Yeah. They’re trying
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01:23:28
to come up with like phones eventually and but, apparently, it’s a lot of work to have a computer company and to
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01:23:33
James McCann, one of the comics from last night, he had a, a new phone. I was like, what is this? He’s like, it’s, it keeps you from being distracted. It only has, like, Spotify, sai few other things on it. One shitty little camera, and a black and white screen. Like, really?
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01:23:48
It’s like, you’re just trying to get off of this phone addiction.
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01:23:51
Yeah.
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01:23:51
So it’s a much more limited phone that runs on Android. Mhmm.
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01:23:54
There’s a
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01:23:55
lot of people that are kinda leaning in that sort of direction.
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01:23:57
Yeah. Like ai anti tech direction. Uh-huh.
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01:23:59
But just realizing, like, something’s going on. Like, I’m not happier. I’m less happy. Yeah. Ai of tweaking, thinking about where’s my phone? Where’s my phone?
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01:24:07
Yeah. Ai don’t think the techno I don’t think, the innovation of of all this new technology now that ai, like, exponentially taking off with AI is gonna lead us to a good place, man. I think that, you know, I’ve had philosophers and people explain to me how, like, the advancement of, like, the technological human mind and the analytical mind has equally equated with the atrophy of, like, the psychic mind.
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01:24:34
Mhmm.
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01:24:34
And, like,
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when you listen to people, like, to Paul Rosalie talking about spending a lot of time in the Amazon sana, like, going through the jungle, how it, like, awakens these deeper senses that you have in inside of us. Mhmm. Side of us. Mhmm. And, like, it makes me wonder, like, five thousand years ago, before we had the ability to offload our memories onto phones and computers and before we even had the fucking written word, ai we’re able to make notes and stuff.
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We probably had, like, way better memory.
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Mhmm.
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We we possibly ai had, like, a telepathic way of communicating back then, like, way, way long ago before we had like, before we started letting technology take over for what we do, like, even for our, like, mundane tasks now, which has reached the pinnacle of LLMs, like, telling us telling us, like, how to fucking write an email,
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you know. Ai. Well, we for sure don’t remember phone numbers anymore. And when I was a kid, I kept, like, 15 phone numbers in my head. Now Ai have zero. I have, like, maybe one or two phone numbers I can remember. Mhmm. Everybody just relies on their phone. There’s so many people that can’t even make their way around town without their navigation system. Completely forgot how the streets connect. Mhmm.
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You know, there’s a lot of digital atrophy or human atrophy that’s being caused by the interface of the digital world. Mhmm. And it’s only gonna get worse. I mean, there’s a there was a study recently on chat g p t users and how less their how but but sai if you can find it.
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01:26:03
It was a study on young people and ubiquitous use of chat g p t, like how many of them are using it and how much effect it has on their ability to form their own thoughts and and see through things. They’re just relying on this thing to answer the questions for them Yep. Without pondering the question themselves and actually learning things. They’re just getting data. Yes.
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And a lot of that data doesn’t even get absorbed.
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Yeah. My wife and all of her friends are using CHAT GPT.
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Here it is. CHAT GPT meh be eroding critical thinking skills from going to a new MIT study.
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That’s odd.
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Totally makes sense. Study divided 54 subjects, 18 to 39 year olds ram the Boston area into three groups and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI’s Ai GPT, Google circuit Google search engine, and nothing at all respectively. Researchers used sana EEG to record the writer’s brain activity across 32 regions and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and consistently underperformed at neuro linguistic and behavioral levels.
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Over the course of several months, Chatt GPT users got lazier with with each subsequent essay Mhmm. Often resorting to copy and paste by the end of the study. Wow.
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Yeah. We’re we’re gonna just end up being a residue of a species overwritten by our own creation.
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01:27:19
Very bizarre. Fucking scary, dude. Very bizarre. Very bizarre. Because we’re just all running towards the cliff. Mhmm. And we’re all ai, yeah. Well, we gotta do it, because if we don’t do it, China’s gonna do it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man.
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I think I think we’re gonna integrate. That’s what I think. We’re we’re gonna realize that the only way for us to survive is to integrate with artificial intelligence.
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I think people are gonna choose. They’re gonna find God either in artificial intelligence or in nature. People that run the other way are gonna realize
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01:27:48
Mhmm. Like There’s definitely gonna be people that worship artificial intelligence sai a new God. Yeah. That’s already been speculated. Mhmm. That’s for sure gonna be a thing. And it might actually be that. Mhmm. Might be that’s what God is. Ai, that’s how we make them. We make our we make God forms himself through us.
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Ai, the way God creates us, he instills us with this insatiable need for technological innovation tyler ultimately, if they don’t blow themselves up, they achieve artificial intelligence, which then becomes sentient, which then makes better and better versions of vatsal. And as you scale out, what’s the ultimate version of that? Mhmm. The ultimate version of that is God.
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Meh. And then what what what are we?
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01:28:26
We’re the chicken and the egg. Chicken and the egg. Well, there’s some new thing, man. Have you seen this thing about the James Webb Telescope, James? Yes, dude.
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I was talking to Jesse Michaels about this yesterday.
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Yeah. Me and Jesse were talking about it yesterday too. So Jesse’s his phone’s getting lit up. I’m gonna send you this Jamie Meh. Sai I guess really interesting.
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The story is, like, this background microwave radiation is not what we think it was. There’s these mature universes that are out there that we just discovered with the
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James Webb. This is, here. I’ll send you the, the Twitter thing, Jamie. Did you find it already? And this bunch of Okay. Here’s ai know. Webb telescope uncovers secrets of dark matter. Yeah. That’s one of them, but, I’ll I’ll show you what this is. Because what this is is essentially that just the galaxies that they’ve shown, it it makes up for the background micro or whatever the microwave radiation is that they associated with the Big Bang.
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So now so according to
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So the Big Bang is fake?
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Yeah. That that
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makes a lot of sense. Yeah. You know, I saw the Twitter post sana there’s people, you know, going after each other, ai, rabid cats and dogs about it, whether it was real or whether it was fake.
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01:29:39
Yeah. Well, of course, people are going back and forth about it. But essentially, what they’re saying is this kind of it cancels out the idea of the Big Bang. And Penrose believed that it was a consistent cycle. Mhmm. Penrose believes it goes, you know, Big Bang to expansion of the universe to compression to Big Bang with this constant cycle never ending.
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01:30:00
It’s not that the universe was formed at one period of ai. It’s like this constant state of of happening. Mhmm. Which is that any more crazy than the universe happening at one time out of nothing? No. I mean, it’s kind of it’s all crazy. Mhmm.
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Just the idea that it’s 13,000,000,000 light years old or 13.7. Yeah. Or 22. Is 22 even more crazier?
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Yeah. Yeah. This is nuts, dude.
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01:30:30
A new paper shows that the cosmic microwave background radiation can be explained entirely by the energy of recently discovered early mature galaxies. Massive galaxies, the James Webb Space Telescope discovered while crushing or or excuse meh, discovered which crushed the existing models of galaxy formation because they formed much earlier than astrophysicist thought possible.
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01:30:53
But now these EMGs turn out to account for the entire energy density of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which was believed to be a snapshot of the first light emitted after the big bang, when the universe was 379,000 years old. The variations in the CMB were believed to be relics of quantum fluctuations in the dense plasma of the Big Bang.
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01:31:16
If these new findings are accepted and there’s no reason not to accept them, then all the following flagship findings of cosmology are thrown into question. Big Bang Theory, foundational cosmological model undermined Mhmm. Cosmic inflation, losses, observation loses, rather, observational justification, ACDM model. I don’t know what that is.
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01:31:39
Key parameters become so all this stuff, dark energy inferred from the CMB meh be mischaracterized. Ai matter density. I don’t know
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what they mean.
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01:31:49
Current estimates may be invalid. Age of the universe must be miscal must be recalculated. Mhmm. Wild.
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Yes. It’s insane.
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Wild shit. And I’m sure the people that have been preaching or, that have been rather, talking and teaching people about the Big Bang and writing books, they’re gonna fight back tooth and nail. Yeah.
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Of course.
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Because they don’t wanna be wrong. Mhmm. But this James Webb Telescope, at the very least, is showing us mature galaxies that shouldn’t have been able to be formed.
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The con the fact checkers got it. Reader context.
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01:32:17
This post claims CMB can be explained entirely by EMGs, ai ability not probability in the EMGs turn out to account for the entire energy, the CMB radiation. Mhmm. But the paper says EMGs may account for anywhere between 1.4100%. So they might account for a 100%, but they do account for that seems like you’re nitpicking. Yes.
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01:32:40
It might account for a 100%? Okay. Right. Either way, they’re learning things and they still have a very limited ability to observe. Right?
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01:32:47
Sai the James Webb Ai is so much better than the Hubble, so much better than anything else they’ve launched before. So they’re finding new things out, but it’s still limited in its capacity to see the universe. It can’t see everything yet. So they’ll probably have an even better one that they’ll launch and that will show us even more that we didn’t know.
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And we’re we’re operating on a limited amount of data and you we’re operating with this conviction that they’re a 100% correct Yes. About these ai lines. Yes. And just the just these mature galaxies that existed where they shouldn’t exist is enough to know that we don’t know everything.
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01:33:20
And then this whole dark matter, dark energy thing is, like, what is it? You can’t even what do you you don’t even know what it is. What
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then we well, we figured out that, that dark matter actually is mass. Right? And has gravitational effects. Like, they were they were, forget who it was, but they they were observing galaxies and they were looking at the spin rate of the galaxies. And they found out that the center of the galaxy, it should be spinning faster than the outer rim of it. Right?
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01:33:42
But they found out that the spin rate is identical, which means that what they what they theorized is that dark matter, the mass of the dark matter around the galaxy has lots of mass, and it’s flattening the spin rate of the galaxies. Which is interesting because, like, there’s this have you ever heard of this dude named Rolf Landauer? No.
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01:34:01
He has this theory, that if you weighed a hard drive after you put data on it, it would weigh more than than when it was empty. Right? So and his theory was that, like, every single hard drive server farm around the the world right now, and if you if you weighed it if we had measuring, equipment that was sensitive enough and you could find the difference, he thinks that all the data stored would be ai a kilogram or less right now.
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01:34:27
But the rate of data increase that we accumulate each year right now is ai 25% not equating for exponential growth, the technological singularity, and how that’s gonna ramp up. Mhmm. So somebody did the math there and said, it was, no, it was Jason Georgiou who did the math on this.
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And he he said, if you just keep the rate flat at 25% per year of data increase across the across the globe, In three hundred and forty years, we arya gonna have the mass of the moon on the surface of the Earth in data stored on hard drives.
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What?
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Yeah. Yeah. So, ai, and the way he the way he, like, lays this all out, I’ll try to do my best, is that the if you look at the laws of thermodynamics, like, the two laws, one that energy can never be created or destroyed, and the other one, like, entropy always increases over time.
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01:35:22
Entropy meaning disorder. It never goes down over ai, like, hence, the heat death of the universe will eventually happen. Mhmm. And sai, e equals meh squared energy and mass are interconvertible. And then there was this other dude, Claude Shannon, who came up the theory that, data transmission with binary bits, ones and zeros. Right?
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So so if computers are bound by tell me if you’re if I’m losing No.
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No. No.
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If if computers are bound by the laws of entropy and hard drives are bound by the laws of entropy, that means when a computer is blank, it’s very low entropy because it’s all ones or it’s all zeros. When you add data, when you add a podcast to it, it goes one zero one zero one zero. It’s chaotic. Just from a pure physical, perspective, it’s high entropy.
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01:36:07
So what happens when you erase that hard drive? You have to the energy has to go has to leap. If if it’s mass on the hard ai, theoretically, if this guy’s right, Lyft Rolf Landauer is ai, that data on the hard drive is mass. When you erase that, it has to go to energy outside of the hard drive. Right?
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01:36:29
So he says, if you but but if you crack open a hard drive, you can’t see that mass. Right? It’s invisible. It’s electromagnetically indetectable. So he says, what other kind of mass do we know of that’s electromagnetically undetectable? And he sai it’s dark matter.
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So if if mass is the same thing as information stored on a hard drive, that would mean not only is mass and energy interchangeable, but mass energy and information are interchangeable. Right? Woah. So if if dark matter is mass, you could then say that dark matter is a computational cloud of ones and zeros.
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01:37:13
And our our, consciousness is an interface to that that gives it meaning. The same way a computer screen gives meaning to all the ones and zeros on the hard drive. Oh. Ai, you watch the video, it give it has meaning to it.
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01:37:27
So this is the concept that consciousness engages with matter, and that is how matter exists. That it exists because you’re observing it.
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01:37:36
Yeah. The only reason con yeah. Consciousness is fundamental to an information processing system. Sai instead of building up to like, but what physicists what people try to do is build up to consciousness from dead atoms, protons, and neutrons. Right? You how do you get to consciousness from that?
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01:37:52
But if you think of this as ai a computational cloud of ones and zeros and mass does equal information, well, that just means that our conscious our consciousness is a way to interface and give this simulation meaning. And funny enough, that that theory really reconciles well with shah ai parapsychology and, like, Rupert Sheldrake’s morphic resonance, like, when you solve one problem in one one part of the world and then, like, somebody breaks a world record in this country and then five year you know, a year later, five other people hit that same world record.
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Yeah. It’s ai, conserving energy. The processing system conserving energy.
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01:38:30
There’s a guy there’s a scientist that he found computational code. What what did he you know, you remember this guy, Jamie? That he he he believes that he found computational code that proves that, like, the universe is a simulation. Mhmm. But this guy, I tried to get him to come on the podcast, but he said I was anti science because the COVID vaccine stuff.
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01:38:55
This is a few few years back though. Maybe he’s kind of woken up and changed his tune. I doubt it though. A lot
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of people got indoctrinated.
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01:39:04
That’s anti science. Like, actual data is anti ai. Do what is whose data? Whose data are you going by? We could have a conversation about that. Oh, yeah. Ai, I’ll show you some things. You could
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have a great conversation. Yeah.
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01:39:14
I think you’ve said everything. Have a seat. Have a seat. Let’s go over some studies.
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Is this the dude?
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01:39:18
Yeah. That’s the guy. So what was his, so this guy won’t come on my show because he says I’m anti sai. Mhmm. Through symmetry, super gravity Yes. And theories. And but what is this this discovery that he Oh, it was from Tampa. Born in Tampa. He found see, what was the, supposed discovery about the computational code?
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01:39:41
What it say? Are we living in a computer simulation? Yeah. This is a James Gates. Theoretical physicist, the University of Meh. Auto correcting codes.
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01:39:52
Click click on that, Ai, the Scientific American arya. Oh, I can just write it right right from there, I guess. Mhmm. Explored mathematical structure of string theory specifically in the context of supersymmetry and has found what he describes as error correcting codes embedded within the equations.
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01:40:05
These codes are mathematical objects similar to those used in computer science for error detection and correction, such as in data transmission. While these findings are intriguing, it’s important to note that they are not literal computer code, but rather mathematical structures that are that share similarities with coding theory. Mhmm. Yeah.
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01:40:23
It’s important to learn it, but that’s fucking crazy.
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01:40:26
Yeah. It is.
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All of it is crazy. Mhmm. But James Gates, as of Ai think two years ago, wasn’t willing to come on the podcast and talk about
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it. Yeah. If I had a dollar for every person who said they wouldn’t come on my podcast because it’s too pseudoscientific, I would have, like, $5.
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01:40:40
Why not? Why not come on and illuminate people? I had this
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01:40:42
ai there’s I don’t wanna say who she is, but, like, this lady who had this amazing book on, like, the Speak weapons and poisons that they used to use for war. Like, they used to, like, drop scorpions over the amazing book. Like, they used to light pigs on fire and, like, send them towards elephants, try to get the elephants to run away
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01:41:00
and, like Wow.
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Throw bags of scorpions on people. And I’m, like, this fucking book is amazing. I need to get this lady. She’s we’re not we’re not we’re not too we’re not, academic enough, I guess. But I’m trying to get there.
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01:41:10
Yeah. But what does that mean? What does it mean? We’re just human beings having a conversation. You’re the academic. Yeah. Come in and tell me what you know. Yeah. What’s the big deal? Yeah.
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You know, but you do a
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great job of, like, having both sides in, which I think is really cool. Like, you have, like, the the crazy fringe people who are, like, educated, self educated, but are very smart in a certain way. And then other people who, like, have the the academic credentials to sort of, like, be a sounding board for that and to see, like, who’s really full of shit.
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01:41:36
Yeah. You have to have all because there are some people that are they’re self taught. They’ve essentially just read shit tons of books Yep. And they’re brilliant people. And just because they’re not classically educated Mhmm. Incorrect. And there’s only one way to find that out. Guys like Randall Carlson, he’s a builder. Okay?
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01:41:53
But the knowledge that he has Yeah. About the impact theory, the younger ai impact theory, and what probably ended the ai age and and shaped a a great part of North America and how you could see it from space. And you could see when they look at the satellite imagery, you it literally looks like things have been washed away. Yeah. It looks like massive water erosion.
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01:42:15
Like, you’d see the ripples on the ground that are akin to what it looks like when the tide pulls back on the sand on a beach. Yeah. It’s it all makes sense. And he knows so much about the actual science behind it. And he was talking about this a long time ago.
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01:42:28
I met him in Georgia, in Atlanta. That’s where he’s from. I met him in, like, 2003 or something like that. 02/2002, 2000 he was telling me about it back then. But back then, they didn’t have the core samples that showed that there was significant impact, evidence that was around I think it was 11,800 years ago, and then again, somewhere around 10,000 plus years ago.
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01:42:53
So we I think we’ve been hit multiple times. Mhmm. And I think he’s a 100 right about that. And I think Graham Hancock is a 100% on to something
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01:43:00
with these
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all this ancient apocalypse stuff and the pushback against him is insane. They throw every terrible phrase at him they possibly can, every pejorative Mhmm. Racist, white supremacists, all these crazy things. Yeah.
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I had Flynn Dibble in my podcast. Ai be talked about it. Fascinating.
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01:43:18
Yeah. He’s great. Yeah. He’s I actually liked him. He’s a nice guy. He loves When he’s not calling you a racist.
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When he’s not in front of a keyboard.
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01:43:25
Yeah. Yeah. Well, he he, you know, he’s a anxiety filled academic Yeah. Who is, you know, fighting very hard to push his very specific view of things. And Mhmm. He ai to silence other people that have opposite opposing views. And the way he did it with Graham was really not cool. It was No. It was shitty.
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01:43:44
It was very shitty.
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Yeah. No. I think he was, I think he had a lot of, like, interesting legitimate things to say about, like, ancient Greeks and stuff like ai. But, like, when we got to this stuff Mhmm. It was just, like, where did that fucking dude I was talking to thirty minutes ago go? He was just, like, he was looking at this and then all reason just flew out the window. Yeah.
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01:44:03
He was, like, he he was like, what do you mean they couldn’t do this? They stick a stone in there. They spin it around like this, and then you can get this. It’s really easily. How dare you say that the that the Dynastic Egyptians weren’t able to create these vases?
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01:44:14
I’m like and I you know, I was, like, proposing other theories that, like, you know, Chris Dunn’s Jeffrey Drumm’s theories and wanted absolutely nothing to do with it and, ai, you know We don’t know. This is the That’s the thing. Exactly. The
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01:44:28
if if if if Christopher Dunn had been teaching this in the eighteen hundreds and people had followed those theories and built upon them, and this was academic, you know, ai, in in universities, this is accepted, and this was what they were teaching, and they were studying this, then he would be saying that. They would all be saying that. There’s ample evidence that he’s got a good point.
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01:44:48
That Christopher Dunn, the model that he uses when he’s describing how he thinks vatsal that the Great Pyramid Of Giza was a power plant is fascinating. Mhmm. The the number when when he’s talking about the ratios that you would need for the width of the walls, the surfaces, what the way the things are ram, they would all work.
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Yep.
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He’s an engineer. Like, he he’s not a moron. He knows what he’s talking about. If this guy was teaching this stuff a long time ago and it was accepted by universities, that would be what we’re talking about today would be speculating Yeah. How they did it and what they were doing and what they were doing it for.
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01:45:18
And if we had known in the eighteen hundreds that we regularly travel into a comet storm and that it happens I think it’s every June and November. We pass through the you know, when we see it in the sky, we see meteor showers. You know, you see, oh, look at the sky. Look at all the shooting stars. We’re we’re in a fucking shooting gallery. And occasionally, one of those slams into the earth. Yeah. And when that stuff happens, we’re fucked.
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01:45:42
And it’s super likely that that happened multiple times during human history. Mhmm. And it’s super likely that that’s why there’s all these structures that nobody could explain. Right. That are somehow or another predate modern civilization, like Gobekli Tepe. That fucked them all up. Because before Gobekli Tepe, they had this six thousand year model. Yeah.
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01:46:03
Mesopotamia, Sumer, that’s where it all started. Yeah. Now they’re ai, well, maybe it’s Turkey. Yeah. Maybe Turkey was the birth.
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01:46:10
But I mean, Jimmy Corsetti has been talking about this a lot.
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And I understand, like, where they’re coming from from the Ai, like, I can see their point of view from the academics. Not that I would act like them or, like, condone the way they act, but, like, when you spend your life Flint, for example, like, I think his parents were archaeologists.
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01:46:25
Mhmm. Named him Flint because of archaeology and, like, you spent your whole life mucking through these different places, excavating shit, digging up rocks, or whatever he was doing. Never and no one ever paid attention to you. And then you have Graham Hancock come in who is, like, personally fascinated by these things and dedicating his life to writing and researching on his own, but not accredited academically.
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You can see, like, how those guys would how those academic guys would be, like, super salty of somebody like ai. I understand that.
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01:46:53
Oh, I get it.
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It’s not an excuse for what he did, which I think was shitty. Right?
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01:46:57
Yeah. It’s not an excuse.
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01:46:58
But, like
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I understand their perspective, but it’s ego driven.
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Yeah.
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If we really were interested, you would take these heterodox scientists and you’d bring them in. And you would say, like, what do you like, these they’re studying data. Guys like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson, they’re studying they’re studying these things. Graham was just in Iraq.
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01:47:15
He just was go going over there to look at, like, ancient Sumerian stuff. You know, he sana me some photos of his trip. He said it was fascinating. Wow. Yeah. It’s these structures are incredible, and they don’t really understand them. Mhmm. We really don’t. We don’t even know, like, who really built the Aztec temples. Mhmm.
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01:47:31
You know, like, I was reading about, Tenochtitlan. Yeah. Like, they found it. The Aztecs found that there, and they don’t even know who built it.
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01:47:41
Right.
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There’s a bunch of those things. They’re ai a previous civilization existed in the same place, fascinating discoveries, figured out how to do agriculture, figured out how to make grids in cities, and make these incredible stone structures shah are cosmologically connected somehow.
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01:47:57
Mhmm. And then they went away. Yeah. Like, in all over the world. All over the world, there’s, like, people reinvent civilization, the places where these ancient structures exist and even build upon them. They build over them.
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01:48:08
Yeah. I think there’s probably so much shit that that people were able to do in antiquity and way before that. That would seem like magic to us today. Like, kinda like getting back to what we were talking about with our senses that we don’t really have today that probably have atrophied over millennia.
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01:48:22
Like, your fart theory, which is amazing. Remember meh your fart theory?
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01:48:27
Oh, how’s it going?
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01:48:29
Imagine if somebody farted and you didn’t have a nose and you ai to develop this nose that enables you to survive and smell predators Right.
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01:48:34
You’d have no idea. No fire.
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You have no idea you’re sitting there bathing in somebody’s fart. Right. So, like, and sai, like, dogs, you know, dogs and cats when they go into weird houses and they notice, like, some sort of weird energy.
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01:48:46
Mhmm.
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You know, people describe energy in a house, like, this is this feels off. Like, what is that? Like, is there is there something that really is is there that we just don’t have the organs anymore to detect? Or something in our brain that has atrophied over thousands of years that have stopped us being able to detect this stuff?
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01:49:02
Well, think about how birds can they can figure out a way to travel, like, super accurately Yeah. Through the sky, but drawn by the magnetic force of the Earth.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They they have somehow or another they can they can figure out a way to navigate with the Earth’s magnetic field. Mhmm. We don’t even understand it. But they do it they migrate successfully every year. Mhmm. And we know they do it. Yeah. That that’s a sense that they have that we don’t have. Mhmm.
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01:49:29
Like, it’s probably a fun a fucking shit ton of there’s probably a bunch of things going on in the world that we’re not interacting with, because we don’t have the senses for.
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01:49:37
Right. Yeah. And, you know, one of the things that I’ve been, like, really interested in lately is, this I mean, people talk about this ability to, like, download information, like, in the UFO world, you know, like, people talk about, oh, I got this from a download or something like that.
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01:49:56
Mhmm. I’m talking about, like, I have an antenna. I can connect to something. Mhmm. But, like, for me, like, that connected when I first heard about people talking about that, I always thought that that was, like, the muse, you know.
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01:50:08
Like, you have this sort of antenna in your head that connects you to creativity and gives you the ability to just create shit out of thin air, you know. And I feel like over with people I’ve observed over my lifetime, I feel like that peaks at an early age. Right? Before you get older and before you start the burden of, like, the responsibilities of life and all these mundane things in your life start to compile on and you trade your dreams for securities, that that spark starts to go away, you know.
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And, like, that could easily be described as something magical if it was way more powerful thousands of years ago. Like, Ai really noticed this the other day. So I was the other day, I was hanging out with, with Kirk, the lead guitarist ram Metallica. And he was for some reason, I don’t know why, but he ai my show.
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And we were just, like
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You had a great show.
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We were talking. Thank you. I appreciate it. It’s weird. I ai I feel like an imposter.
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That’s good. That’s why you’re good at it.
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But he loves this stuff. The dude’s ai, you know, he’s in his sixties, ai, early sixties, and he’s fucking obsessed with all of these topics that, like, that you cover, I cover, a lot of people cover. And he’s ai, at the same time, he’s the dude has, like, got this crazy spark where he’s so inspired to do shit and, like, still creating new music and, like, coming up with new riffs and, and wanting to do more things where, like, I’ve never met a dude like that who’s had so much success, toured everywhere for the last forty years, being the number one metal band in the world, basically, and still, like, wanting to learn stuff.
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The dude is trying to translate ancient Greek music for his guitar arya trying to figure out how to play this stuff. He can’t figure it out. And he was telling me, he’s like, dude, I think this wasn’t recreational. He’s like, I think this music was magical. He’s like, I think they were performing magic.
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01:52:12
He thinks it was ai religious medical ai they were performing with music. It wasn’t supposed to be entertainment back in the day.
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01:52:19
Well, there is this weird connection with music and psychedelics where music can sort of it it changes the trip. Like, if if you listen to do you know what Ikaros are? No. Are these, hook it up, Jamie. Are these South American songs that they play while you’re doing Ayahuasca. And Mhmm. If you do DMT and listen to these things, they take over the trip.
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01:52:52
And the song the the trip moves with the song in arya. Like, exactly. It’s not like the trip is chaotic and you hear the songs and these songs are like a technology to move the trip. Mhmm. It’s really fascinating.
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Because you listen to the songs and you’re like, well, what are these things? Like, what are they trying to do with these? They sound sana weird, but when you listen to these songs while you’re tripping, it makes the trip dance. It makes the geometric pattern. Sai you are lying on the floor. It’s Costa Rica.
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01:53:33
In the jungle.
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01:53:34
You’re lying on a yoga mat in the jungle with a bunch of 40 year old ladies with boob jobs ai to get their life together. Tech entrepreneurs. Tech entrepreneurs, navy seals.
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Yeah.
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And you just threw up. You have horrible ai. And this trip just starts coming on. I think I just found Jesus. Gimme give me a little more something that would like a little more beat to it. I got some on my phone.
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I heard the one that, you you know, you had Luke on recently, Luke Averne.
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He’s great.
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He had a great, great little clip that he played.
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Here we go. This is my favorite one. They dance. They dance to this song ai
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you’re tripping. Balls?
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01:54:20
You know the psychedelic experience dances to this song. Oh. When you’re lying there with your eyes closed.
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That’s wild.
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And the whole time it’s it’s like ai together. Mhmm. And the whole time it’s doing it, it’s like it’s like a method for showing you more things.
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01:54:39
Yeah.
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And as you go through it with the music, there’s something comforting in the pattern of the music. Yeah. And the way it dances to the music that allows you to relax and unveils more and more of vatsal. It’s very trippy. And the fact that these guys figure this out. How did you figure this out?
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Yeah, man.
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There’s something there. Your your friend is probably right. The Metallica guy is probably right.
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Yeah.
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It’s probably they were probably that music probably synchronized with the trips. Yeah. Like, when they were doing the Illucidian Mysteries
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That’s what he yeah. Ai I went to their concert in Tampa the other day, and I was walking and I made me regret not going to more concerts when I was younger. But, like, being in that stadium, the the Bucks Stadium, where there was 90,000 people, every seat in that arena was full.
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And here.
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Well, it goes black.
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01:55:29
There it is. The lightning strike happens. It is insane. Look at this. Lightning strike
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01:55:33
They caught an earthquake.
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01:55:37
They’re they’re actually, I mean, super dangerous, but that was fast.
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01:55:41
That is fucking insane. Ride the lightning, bitch.
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01:55:49
That’s so dangerous.
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01:55:50
Dude, being there with 90,000 people, the light, the thundering electric guitars, and the the the the fire, the pyrotechnics, and all those people, like, focusing like, all 90,000 people, every atom in their body is vibrating at the same frequency. Yeah. And it just, like, that is it’s like magic that Yeah. Penetrates every fiber of your being.
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01:56:13
And if I was a dude from two thousand years ago, took a time machine at that Metallica concert, those dudes are gods. Right. They’re fucking gods. I think that’s what the Abyssinian Mysteries probably was.
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01:56:23
Well, they probably had music that that enhanced the trip. It probably guided the trip. They probably learned how to do it while they were tripping. Mhmm. Like, they figured out so much. They figured out democracy. They they they started so sai much of what we think of as, like, Western government. Yeah.
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And the the ai meh, democracy,
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all this stuff. Tripping balls.
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01:56:47
And then the Romans came along and said, stop. Yep. We’re here to make slaves out of you fucking people. We don’t want you tripping.
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01:56:54
Right. Yeah. That was, yeah. They killed they killed Eleusis in, like, what, April, I think.
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01:56:58
Well, they did exactly the same things the Nixon administration did to psychedelics in this country. Mhmm. They’re ai, oh, this is a problem. When they were turning everything sai schedule one to try to stop the anti war movement and the civil rights movement, that’s exact same thing.
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01:57:11
Like, governments, when they get through a certain position of power Mhmm. They’re not representing the people anymore. Now they’re now they’re the fucking jack booted thugs that tell you what you can and can’t do Yeah. Based on how inconvenient it is for you to be doing that for them running things.
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01:57:25
Right. Yeah. It’s just it’s terrible. It’s the opposite of what it should be. It’s the opposite of what got us it’s the opposite of what got us here, I think, bro.
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01:57:32
Yes. I had we’re too big now. There’s too many of us. That’s part of the problem. It’s like ai wanna govern 330,000,000 people plus Mexicans? Good luck.
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01:57:41
I had this dude on my shah, speaking of, the academic, the strife between the academics and the self taught, online people, influencers, whatever you wanna call them. This dude was, he was kicked out of his university for he first of all, he wrote a dissertation on ancient pharmacy, the Roman Roman pharmacy and Greek pharmacy.
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01:58:01
And it was a dissertation based on this guy named Galen, who was, like, the surgeon general of ancient Rome. And he had a chapter in his dissertation, his PhD dissertation about, recreational drugs in Rome. And the head of the department reviewed his dissertation and said, everything looks great.
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01:58:18
Delete the section on recreational drugs in ancient Rome. So he’s like, okay. Why? They’re like, because the Romans wouldn’t do such a thing. So he’s like, okay.
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01:58:28
He deleted it and then submitted it, got his PhD, and then wrote a book based on that part of the dissertation that he left out, which the book was called The Chemical Muse. And, I learned about this from Hamilton Morris. He did a podcast with the dude first. And I read that book.
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01:58:43
And, you know, he was basically making the case that drugs were ubiquitous in in antiquity during the Roman times. Like, they were being used for everything because people were not dying from old age. They were dying from war, hand to hand combat, famine, plague. Infection. All these things.
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01:58:59
Infection. So, like, people were were constantly using drugs. And there was a law in ancient Rome that he said there was only one law when it came to using drugs. And that was that you were that was that you were not allowed to kill people with drugs. You’re not allowed to murder people, which is why Marcus Aurelius was using this drug compound called a, theriac.
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01:59:22
And the theriac was a concoction of, like, 11 different North African vipers, their flesh, and their venom ai with opium and all kinds of, like, body bodily fluids, and he was using this as, like, a performance enhancing drug. Woah. Because people were trying to assassinate him with poisons. That’s how they assassinated people.
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They were using scorpions, poisons, arrows, all, like, all different kinds of weird things to sneak in and kill him. So he was drinking this theriac to build up his immune system against the ai against the the the, venoms. And, dude, he this dude, Galen, who wrote about this shit, he was talking about giving he was Marcus Aurelius’ physician.
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And he was ai, Marcus Aurelius, he’s like, it’s getting ridiculous. It’s getting annoying. I keep having to up his opium dose. He keeps using more and more fucking opium. I can’t get him off of it.
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Oh my god. Yeah.
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And, so Galen, the physician, the the the surgeon general of the Roman Empire, under Marcus Aurelius, and Nero, I think, basically, equates to 10% of all the Greek literature for human antiquity. 10% of it is medical. And this dude that, wrote this dissertation, based it vatsal off Galen, is talking about all these drug compounds that are used in all of the so what he does is he looks at all the ancient literature ram from Homer to, you know, ai, August to, like, the time that Beowulf was bryden, basically, ’80.
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02:00:56
And he’s, like, finding all of this evidence of crazy drug use. And he has this crazy theory also that, I don’t know if it’s crazy. I don’t know. The problem, like, with with talking to people like them like him is that I don’t know ancient Greek. I can’t read it.
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02:01:16
Right.
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And I try to have I’ve tried to have, like, four or five academics come on the show to, like, refute him, but they won’t come on with him. They’re all refused to debate him, except for one
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02:01:24
guy. Interesting.
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Yeah. Why? Because he’s saying Christ is a drug.
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02:01:29
Oh, I saw that video.
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02:01:30
Oh, did you ai you see the whole thing?
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02:01:31
No. I saw that video pop up on my YouTube. My Danny Jones is going crazy. What is he doing? Christ is a drug? What So But that’s also what John Marco Allegro alleges.
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Kind of.
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Sai of. Well, he said that the ancient Sumerian word for, a mushroom no. For Christ is a mushroom that’s covered in God’s semen. Yeah. Because the mushrooms had come out of the ground Yeah. And they thought the rain was God coming on the earth. Yeah. And that’s where, you know, that’s what gave life to the earth. Mhmm. And then they would take these mushrooms and see God. Right.
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02:02:02
Yeah. I don’t know much about John Marco Allegro, but I think that Sai I I read his book, the, the Sacred Mushroom in the Cross.
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02:02:08
Sacred Mushroom
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02:02:08
in the Cross. Yeah. Yeah. He was, like, using Sumerian roots or something to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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02:02:12
Mhmm. But
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this guy is basically saying, the word Ai, the word the the the root of the word Christ is hrio in Greek. Right? And it was used since Homer. And there’s all these passages, which he’s this dude sent me. I’ve literally I I I call him
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02:02:28
all the
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time and I ask him. I’m like, I need more evidence. Send me more shit. And he sends me passages from, like, ancient literature, Homer, that’s translated with the English directly under it. And they’re using this word Ai as a term for applying drugs to people in antiquity. Woah. Like, Christing arrows with poisons. Right?
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02:02:46
It’s like, And
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02:02:49
and what year was this where they were doing this?
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02:02:51
Back all the way to, like, August was when Homer starts using it.
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02:02:56
So they’re using this term before Ai?
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02:02:58
Way before Christ. It was well, so to be clear, in antiquity, if you look it up on the thesaurus, the actual, like, Greek thesaurus is called the TLG, and you look up the word Christ, there’s there’s over two hundred and two hundred thousand or more uses of the word Christ.
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02:03:14
And there’s, like, 350 times where it’s used in the context of drugs before Jesus Christ was ever written about. Woah. And, what he’s what he’s basically claiming is that there’s, like it’s it’s it’s the the process of applying something. Like, there’s there’s different context.
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02:03:34
Like, there’s a guy who, like, Christed himself in fucking cow shit. There’s people who are Christing ships with plaster to make them more waterproof. But there’s a vast majority of literature, including Galen, who writes about Christing using drugs. And he’s coming up with this controversial theory, which is, you know, super fucking controversial, that Christ was like if you think of the word Christ, a person can be a Ai, like a Christ.
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02:04:03
Like, think of Bob the Builder. He’s a builder. He builds shit. Christ was they called him Jesus the Christ. So he thinks Christ was somebody who was involved with drugs, taking drugs, giving people drugs
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Like a shaman.
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Performing performing magic, like a shaman. Yeah. Exactly. Similar to that. And, like
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By the way, a real shaman would say all the things that Jesus said. Yes. That’s true. That’s a good point.
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02:04:28
So and it gets, like, it gets way weirder, bro. And, again, like, I this is all according to him. I don’t know if any of this is real. I just find it fucking fascinating. And I wish I could find somebody who really knows the Greek to debate this dude and call him out in his bullshit, but I can’t the only person I found was an exorcist who’s done, like, 10,000 exorcists on Skype.
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02:04:49
A Skype exorcist. Skype exorcist.
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02:04:53
Well, that sounds like a scam and a half.
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02:04:55
And he came in and they were just arguing about it for a little while and the guy tried to baptize me with, holy oil and, you know, I got into an argument with him about drugs.
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02:05:03
He tried to baptize you?
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Yeah. He brought holy holy oil, and he tried to baptize me with the holy oil.
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02:05:09
Do you say why he was doing this?
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Because he thinks that I, he thinks that Satan is inside of me.
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02:05:15
Of you?
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02:05:15
Of me. Yeah. And, which ai be.
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02:05:18
What did what evidence did he have that Satan was inside of you?
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02:05:21
Because I like to consume drugs recreationally. And I was telling him that Satan is drugs. If I can smoke marijuana and it’s prescribed by a doctor, is it still Satan? He goes, no. Don’t play those games with me. And I’m like, well, how come every time I get really, really fucking bombed, I think about things like spending more ai with my kids? Yeah.
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02:05:40
And things like good things. Like Yeah. And he’s like, don’t try to patronize me. You know what it is. It’s the devil.
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02:05:46
Oh, he’s a fool.
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02:05:47
Oh, yeah. That’s ai that’s a problem. Like, this guy ai a show is a show a showman.
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02:05:50
Well, cannabis was used in churches. They used to, you know, that incense where they would go around, they would that was cannabis. They would use that. Right. Right. Yes. Meh everybody in the church high.
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02:06:00
And fumigate it. Yeah. Yeah.
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02:06:01
They would literally hot box the church. Uh-huh. And this is a part of this whole ritual of, you know, giving in to to Ai, giving in to God. Right. This the idea that it’s bad because some people have had bad experiences. Man, you could apply that to almost anything. Mhmm. I think marijuana makes people more compassionate, kinder, more sensitive, but but also paranoid. You could freak out.
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02:06:27
You could if you’re riddled with anxiety and you have a hard time controlling that anxiety in your mind and you take a high dose of marijuana, you could freak out. Yeah. It’s also connected to schizophrenia. Mhmm. Because I think there’s people that have a tendency towards schizophrenia anyway Mhmm.
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02:06:41
And then a large dose of marijuana tends to give them psychotic breaks. There’s, like, real literature. There’s real real evidence to that. So this is, like, important that if you’re a person who thinks that marijuana is overall net positive, which I do, it’s important to talk about the negatives just like everything else.
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02:06:56
Meh. Totally. Alcohol, food, everything. There’s a lot of different things that if you do if you drink too much water, you’ll fucking die. Okay? Right.
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02:07:05
There’s a lot of things that aren’t good for you under certain circumstances, but the only way we know how to do it and how not to do it is to do studies. Yeah. And when it’s illegal and you’re terrified, you can go to jail or if you’re an academic and you sana study this as your main you you just get dismissed.
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02:07:23
It’s could be career suicide.
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02:07:25
Right.
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02:07:26
So these people are foolish.
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02:07:28
Yeah. And that’s the problem. Like like, this was the only dude I could get to agree to come sit with him because this guy had a YouTube channel. He wanted to promote himself and all this stuff. But, like, a lot of the academics I ai to a lot of Harvard philologists to try to come debate this guy.
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02:07:40
And, like, the the philologist like, there’s difference between a linguist, which I think Marco Allegra was, and a philologist, where the linguist look at the actual, like, the the complexities of the text itself in the language. But the philologist, what they do is they’re looking for context.
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02:07:54
So, like, they what they do is they take words and they try to figure out what these specific words meant in certain time periods. So they take a word, take their time machine back, let’s take it back to 200 BC, a 100 BC, whatever it is. And they say, okay, let’s just use the example of the word Rio Ai.
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02:08:13
Let’s look at all of the corpus of all the fucking literature that existed in the ai library of Alexandria. There there was ancient comedy,
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02:08:21
ancient plays What did you say there? The the the word free what did you say?
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02:08:24
Creo. Creo? Creo. Yeah. That’s Creo. It’s like it’s spelled x r I o, but it’s pronounced ai creo.
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02:08:32
And that was the original word for Christ?
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02:08:33
The original word for Christ is creo. Yeah. Oh. And I’ve had people, like, confirm this with me. And I I recently had a fucking scholar on the show, a religious scholar who turned atheist, weirdly enough. He started out Christian and turned atheist. And he was telling me he’s ai, I’d be surprised if the word phrio was ever used before before Christ.
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02:08:50
And I literally pulled up the source of Euripides talking about using Ai drugs in, like, I think it was February, and the dude was, like, blown away. Ai.
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02:09:02
Sai he didn’t know that.
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He didn’t know it. And this dude’s, like, a serious academic.
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02:09:05
So this guy that you had on your podcast, what is his name again? The Christed drug guy? Amon Hillman. Amon Hillman. Yeah. And he so he’s a legit scholar.
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02:09:12
He’s a legit scholar. PhD.
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02:09:14
And other legit scholars are unwilling to even entertain this? Yes.
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02:09:20
I’ve talked to many of them on the phone. And a lot of them say, they don’t want to give him I won’t name the people, but one of them said that they they just don’t sana give him the platform or the credibility of being in the same room. Other people say that it would just take too much time for them to prep for it. And I just think it’s a bull I just think it’s bullshit.
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02:09:38
Like, I this is the only way to get to the truth is to hear, like, a credible person dismantle his argument. Right?
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02:09:45
Right.
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02:09:45
So, like, I have it. I just keep falling deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole of all this crazy ancient Greek shit. And, like, you know, he’s talking about ancient, like, vaccines that they were using. Like, similar to what we’re talking about the Theriac, he says that there’s text that talks about cutting kids, cutting children, soaking bandages and and speak venoms, and wrapping the cut with a snake venom sai that that that young person would create antibodies because they have more robust immune systems because they’re younger.
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02:10:13
Mhmm. And they would use that the kids’ bodily fluid as fucking vaccines to snake ai. What? Yeah.
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02:10:21
Oh, they’re making kids into vaccine factories?
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02:10:23
They were turning kids into vaccine factories.
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02:10:25
So that they get snake venom?
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02:10:27
Because everyone was getting bitten by snakes back then. Of course. Yeah. And then they would take drugs too. Like, they would I’m sure they would take psychotropic drugs that would and they would call them death inducing drugs where they would have snake venoms. They would, like, take snake venom drugs that if you don’t have an antidote for it, an antichrist for it, that you would die.
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02:10:46
So you have to take this antidote sai you don’t die from the fucking drug you just drank. Right? These antidotes. And, like, he connects this all to Jesus in this elaborate way where there there’s Mark fourteen fifty three where Jesus caught in the Bryden Of Gethsemane with the naked boy.
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02:11:04
Right? And then there’s a scene of the the young boy running away naked. Right? When the when the when the Roman SWAT team pulls up on him, and then the little kid runs away, he goes, oh, I’m not I’m not a I’m not a trafficker. I’m not a robber, whatever the word lacedace means. Means, like, pirate, trafficker, robber. And then they take him, and then he’s on the cross the next day.
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02:11:21
And he’s, like, screaming out, like, dying of thirst in between two traffickers. And he’s asking and there’s this dude, Nonus, who writes about this scene specifically in ancient Speak. And he talks about the them giving trying to give him the sponge, and he’s denying the sponge. Right?
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02:11:41
So the sponge, Nonus, is writing about this that the sponge is the antidote to the dip sauce, which is the antidote to the North African viper. But he’s refusing to take the antidote. He’s just dying because he took this death inducer at 4AM in the park in the, Bryden Of Gethsemane.
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02:11:56
And now he’s just gonna let himself die ai the cross. So, like, yeah, there’s that. I don’t know I don’t know what to make of any of it. It it it make of this stuff. I just, you know, I hear people saying that it’s all bullshit, but, like, fuck is it interesting.
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Well, bizarre that they use the term Christ before Christ.
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Yeah. Just bizarre. It’s been used yeah. You can look it up. It’s used all throughout Homer, Euripides, all these other authors. Like, there’s like, again, getting back to the philology stuff. The philologist, they go back in time and they look at the context of all of the literature, not just not just the biblical saloni, which is like a narrow lane of ancient literature.
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02:12:34
Right? But they’re looking at the philosophy, the the the the, legal texts, the medical texts, everything, and saying, okay, let’s take this word, look where it’s used in all of these different texts throughout all kinds of professions, and see what the consensus is of what it meant during that time period.
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And what he’s claiming is that the fucking word Christ meant drugs back then.
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02:12:56
Woah.
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Yeah. Woah. Pretty bananas.
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02:13:02
Well, it’s so hard to know what all that stuff was about. It’s so hard to know why these people wrote these things down. You know, when I had Wes Hough on Yeah.
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One of
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the things he talked about is the book of Ai. When you see it in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and then a thousand years later, it’s verbatim. A thousand this a thousand years after the Dead Sea Scroll, the version that they find in the book of Isaiah is word for word.
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02:13:25
Really?
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Yeah. A thousand years. Like, what were they trying to document? Mhmm. Like, what were the original stories? Because, like, human beings are not a good source of information, especially back then. Mhmm. It’s just too hard
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to
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be accountable. Why would you be honest? People make grandiose claims. They exaggerate. We see it today. It looks like humans today are the same as humans back then.
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02:13:48
We’re flawed. Right.
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02:13:49
So we know today that our versions of history are are are deeply biased. Our versions of world events, our versions of I mean, if the United States government could write the story about the invasion of Iraq without investigative journalists, right,
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what what would
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be the story? Yeah. And this is part of the problem. So we don’t really know what they were trying to say. It was an oral history for who knows how long before they ever wrote down the Old Testament.
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Yeah. And it got redacted and added to over time. There’s, like, all kinds of weird secret gospels, secret gospel of Mark. They claim that this dude, Morton Smith came up with, which was similar to Ammon’s theories. But then, you know, people say, oh, that’s a forgery. That’s a forgery.
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02:14:29
The secret gospel speak if the secret gospel of Mark’s a forgery, then he fucking knew Greek really well, and he knew the culture really well and all the cults, you know, and, ai, dude, like, you know, even, like, the mysteries of, of the hospitals in ancient Rome, like the, the temples of Asclepius and doing all those rituals in the the temples of Asclepius using medicine and drugs simultaneously and these these venoms and all this stuff is, it’s interesting to learn, you know.
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And especially when you compare that stuff to the biblical stuff, you know, like, how much has it been changed? How much has the meaning been changed? And, like, the people most of the academics who study this stuff are maybe not most of them, but a large major a large percentage of them, I think, that I’ve talked to.
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02:15:22
They’re religious scholars, scholars of the ai and Christianity, but they also subscribe to Christianity. Mhmm. You know? So I’m like, there’s is that like a it’s weird that there’s kind of like a built in bias Right. Into this stuff.
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You kinda want this stuff to mean something.
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02:15:38
Right. You know
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what I’m saying?
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02:15:39
Yes. For sure.
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And, like That
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02:15:41
was what was interesting about Allegro. Because John Marco Allegro was an ordained minister who once he became a theologian a a theologist Mhmm. Theologian, rather. Once he studied theology, he started to have agnostic thoughts. And so he when he was one of the deciphers of the Dead Sea Scrolls when he was on the committee, he was agnostic at the time. Mhmm.
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02:16:02
So he had already decided and through his study of all these different religions that maybe he wouldn’t subscribe to any of them and leave an open mind. Mhmm. So he was the only person on the commission that was deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls over a period of, like, fourteen million or fourteen years rather.
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02:16:18
Yeah. He studied this stuff. Mhmm.
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He was the only one who was agnostic. Mhmm. And he again, his claims are widely dismissed by many many people. But I think Yeah.
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02:16:29
This dude, Amman, thinks he’s full of shit.
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02:16:31
Does he what does he think?
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He just he he, he he was, like, came up under this under, like, some of the top classical scholars, of, like, modern times. One of those dudes is Carl Ruck. He wrote The Road to Eleusis. And, this other guy ai John Scarborough, who’s dead now. And, for some reason, none of them whenever I ask him about Allegro, like, I don’t fucking know. They don’t pay attention to it for some reason.
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02:16:51
Well, I think you would have to be a real scholar in biblical languages to even understand what the fuck he’s saying. Yeah. And and to be able to translate ancient Meh.
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02:17:02
Yeah.
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02:17:02
Ancient Sumerian, like, according to Meh Hoff, he’s ai, I tried. I couldn’t even figure out how to
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do it. Also, how does ancient Sumerian connect to Hebrew? Right. Is there any correlation between ancient Sumerian and ancient Hebrew? Do they share any roots? Is there any are there any bridges that connect those two languages? I have no idea.
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02:17:19
I don’t know either. But, you know, you’re dealing with if if it really goes back that far. So if he’s talking about this term from ancient Sumer where they are calling it a drug. They’re saying it’s a mushroom. Mhmm. And this is from 5,000 years ago, 6,000 years ago. You know, you’re predating the Ai by a long stretch. And how old was that?
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02:17:39
Ai mean, if if they’re right about Turkey and Turkey was the original civilization, like, what when is that? Is that twelve thousand years ago? What what is the real date of Egypt? What is the real date of the original structures of Egypt? Do they know?
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02:17:53
Mhmm.
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02:17:54
I mean, we’re told it’s February for the Great Pyramid. But, boy, there’s a lot of people that don’t agree with that, including geologists. When you get guys like Robert Schoch, who sai, like, this water erosion is thousands of years of rainfall. Last time you had a heavy rainfall in the Nile Valley, you’re looking at 9,000 years ago. Right.
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02:18:10
So you have thousands of years of rainfall before 9,000 years ago that’s gonna create this kind of erosion.
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Mhmm.
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And sai, it’s hard to know because everybody wants to be ai. And they all they all have this date that they’ve been talking about and writing books about and giving lectures about. They never wanna revise that. They they gate keep that information tyler the day they never wanna have an open mind and say perhaps there’s this there is evidence, of course, that there was a sophisticated civilization there 2500 BC.
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02:18:39
But maybe they were a part of a very old civilization. And this is the Meh Tepi thing that Zawe Hawass was totally ignorant of, and he thought it was just completely bullshit. Mhmm. And this is the King’s List that goes back thirty thousand years that they they talk about and the way Egyptologists that are conventional thinkers, they they think that it’s mythology.
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02:19:02
They think that’s meh. But, you know, you get to about 2,500, that’s all real. Mhmm. Well, how the fuck do you know?
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Right. They don’t.
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02:19:11
You don’t. And also, if if there was an advanced civilization eleven thousand eight hundred years ago that was able to create Gobekli Tepe, which we know now to be true. Mhmm. What else have we not found? Right.
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02:19:24
Was it a breakaway civilization? Did they escape the Earth and go to the moon? Right.
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02:19:27
Right? Or
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Like they’re trying to do now?
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Or, you know, was it just that they had achieved a very high level of sophistication in technology that’s very different from the path that we took.
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Right. Totally.
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02:19:38
That’s what I think. Mhmm. I think the path that they took involved immense stone structures, cosmology. They probably didn’t have internal combustion engines. They probably had a completely different kind of technology that we wouldn’t even think of because we went in this internal combustion engine, plastic, microchip, electricity.
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02:19:56
We went to that direction.
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02:19:57
Yeah.
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02:19:57
And they but you could imagine primitive man evolving to create technology that’s far different than the way we went.
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02:20:06
Mhmm. Yeah. Do you think we might have cracked that somewhere, like, in some deep black programs that we could have that they wouldn’t sana unleash that on society because it could, like, fuck up the economic system or, like, collapse the world?
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02:20:18
Ai know. Jesse and Michaels believes that there there’s gravity technology that Yeah. They were researching in the nineteen sixties and that they had achieved some sort of breakthrough propulsion system that is probably a lot of what you see when you see these, UAPs and these crafts that move in very strange ways.
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02:20:35
Yeah. That that makes sense to me. They make I mean, the and again, the idea that they couldn’t keep that secret, shut the fuck up. Of course, they could. Right. Of course, they could.
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02:20:42
There’s this lady, Catherine Fitts, who’s the, she was the head of the department of HUD under George Bush, and they brought her in, after, like, the mortgage crisis to, like, figure out how to, like, restabilize the economy and what the banks were doing and all this stuff. And she was looking at, like, missing money.
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02:21:03
And, she found that there was, like when when she when she applied her knowledge of mathematics and, like, what’s going on with, like, the the federal budget and where all the money’s going, She said the most reasonable explanation you know how there’s, like, $21,000,000,000,000 missing from the DOD Mhmm.
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02:21:22
The day before ai, Donald Trump’s phone was, like, there’s, like, two to two and a half trillion dollars, whatever it was. Now that’s ballooned to, like, $21,000,000,000,000. And she thinks that, you know, pull up the spreadsheet, see where that money went up. It’s not on the receipt. I don’t know where it went.
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02:21:37
She thinks it went to, like, black budget shah, like, military black military technology, like anti gravity. And she thinks that mister Global, whoever that is, the bankers, the central bankers arya literally using all of that money and funneling it into black projects to create a breakaway civilization in case there’s, like, some sort of catastrophe on Earth or something happens.
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02:22:02
Oh, god. And, like
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Where are they doing this?
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They’re doing this at fucking Lockheed Martin. I don’t know.
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02:22:07
Underground or something? Maybe.
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02:22:08
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That’s another thing she says. She says there’s a lot of money that’s going into building all these underground underground bases, continuity of government, tunnel systems, all this stuff. And I’m looking at something like Oh. She legit worked under the Bush administration. She was ai a financial genius.
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02:22:23
Right. But she could be a kook.
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02:22:25
She could be.
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02:22:25
Yeah. That’s the problem. When people are super intelligent, but also crazy Yeah. You know, and also had a prominent position in government, but also crazy.
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02:22:35
Yeah. I guess there’s a lot of really intelligent people that are super crazy.
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02:22:38
And does she physically has she been to these places? Like, how does she know that they’re real? Does she know has she talked to someone to explain this breakaway civilization thing? Or is this just a theory?
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02:22:49
She’s friends with the dude who wrote the book that’s titled Swastakas, Ai, and Saucers.
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02:22:56
What? What’s that book about?
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02:23:00
How the Nazis are controlling UFOs and and psy ops and controlling the world and, you know, playing the world like it’s their fucking docudrama and and recreating reality and inventing all this crazy off world stuff and how Roswell was, Soviet Union crashing stuff here. And, basically, it’s all Nazi black budget stuff. I think it’s, like, the the main point of that kind.
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02:23:22
Do they dismiss the idea that we’re visited at all by something from somewhere else?
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02:23:27
I mean, who what do you mean who? Who? Like
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02:23:29
These people that think that it’s all Nazi stuff and Soviet Union stuff.
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02:23:33
I don’t think that they’re saying it’s all that, but they’re probably saying Ai haven’t read all his books, but I think he’s saying when he wrote that book, it was probably all Nazis, no aliens. But now Ai sure his points his, views have evolved on it.
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02:23:46
That’s part of the problem too. It’s ai you know, when you see these reports, when I whenever I see, like, a story that’s in the New York Times where the Pentagon is admitting we have, you know, there’s been off world crafts and all these different things, and you get these David Grush guys that are testifying about that we’ve recovered crashed vehicles.
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02:24:05
It’s ai, how much of that is a Ai?
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I think most of it.
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02:24:09
I think a lot of it. Yeah. I I don’t even know if it’s if they know it’s a PSIOP. But if I was the government and I was working on top secret propulsion systems, the first thing I would do is spread a bunch of fake rumors about UFOs. Yes. This is how we can’t explain it. We don’t know. We’re being visited. They’re super intelligent. We don’t know where they’re from.
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02:24:25
We don’t know how they’re doing
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this. Yep.
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02:24:27
And then you have an explanation for why these people are seeing these things in the sky when it’s really just your shit that you’re flying around. Mhmm. But yet, if you listen to Jacques Vallee and you read any of his books, he’s got these stories that people were telling from the seventeen hundreds and the eighteen hundreds that mirror almost exactly the experiences that people are having today.
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02:24:47
Mhmm. That’s where it gets weird. Because, okay, now you’re predating any possibility of this being modern technology, you know, that is just hidden and tucked away. They couldn’t have done that in the seventeen hundreds. There’s no there were no way. They didn’t even have airplanes yet. Right? Okay.
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02:25:04
Right.
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02:25:04
So if we admit that, then we have to go, okay. Well, what what’s going on then? Are we is there something else here that’s here that’s been here forever, like some people think? Or are we looking at something that’s visiting us and keeping an eye on us from somewhere else? That’s where it’s fun. That part that’s the fun one.
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02:25:23
The fun one is not that it’s ours. The fun one is that we’re being visited.
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02:25:27
Yeah. Like, and are we being visited or did they just live under the oceans?
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02:25:32
Right.
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02:25:32
You know? Like, have they been here fucking forever? And, like, you know, there’s this case, Richard Dolan came on my show recently and he was telling me he wrote this new book about all the underwater cases ever meh, the underwater UFOs, USOs. And there’s one from, like, the early seventeen hundreds where there was this, like, ship sailing across the Pacific and this giant glowing orb came out of the ocean.
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02:25:57
And these sailors all wrote about it, How this this massive, like, football stadium ai glowing orb came up out of the ocean and, like, flew away. And, you know, like, if we’ve how much of the ocean have we explored? Ai, how
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02:26:10
much A
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02:26:10
very small percentage. Small amount. We’ve flown more of the moon, I ai.
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02:26:12
And it would be the perfect base. If you wanted to come here and observe human beings without them being able to see what’s going on, that’s the best place to hide. Mhmm. Because no one’s going there. They don’t have the capability of going there. You know, we have submarines, but Ai meh, shah are the I mean, if the submarine see things, do they tell us? Yeah.
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02:26:29
Like, if the submarine saw a UFO underwater, would they have a press conference?
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02:26:33
Right. Exactly. No. We know about the nuclear bases above ground because those guys have come out and talked about it. But, like, all of the nuclear submarines that are patrolling the oceans at all times, like, right off of our coast, off both coasts. Like, if they’re carrying multiple nuclear warheads, I’m sure they’re seeing something or they’re detecting something there.
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02:26:51
Well, there’s this one video of something that was moving 500 knots under the water. Ai, this this thing that, like, flew by their camera. Like, they don’t
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02:26:58
On the sub?
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02:26:59
Yeah. Ai was like, I forget where it was being recorded, but it was a video of something that was ai a beam of light that shot through the screen. Mhmm. Like, you could see it moving underwater at this insane rate of speed with no ripples, no disruption of the water, just moving through the water. Yeah.
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02:27:21
And then there’s these transmedium videos. These videos of these things flying. They go into the water with no splash, no nothing. And they don’t lose any momentum.
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02:27:30
Yeah. I think the best evidence of those things have been here forever is probably, like, ancient stories, biblical story, like, aliens and or, like, angels and demons stuff, ai, probably ai before the yeah. Ezekiel too. Right?
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02:27:41
Ezekiel in the ai. That that story is nuts. The wheel within a wheel, the way he’s ai, like, what are you saying?
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02:27:46
Right.
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02:27:47
And imagine there’s you’ve no context. Yeah. Imagine seeing something that’s floating some geometric pattern that’s hovering in the sky above your head and emitting light and trying to explain this. And then, also going back and trying to remember exactly what you sai, because you’re probably freaking the fuck out.
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02:28:07
You really do have some sort of an encounter with some orb that’s flying in the sky. How do you even describe it? Mhmm. What context do you put in? Do you describe it as an alien? Do you describe it as an angel? Do you do you think it’s God? Mhmm. Like, what do you think it is?
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02:28:19
Right. Or is it drugs? Does drugs Yeah.
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02:28:21
Drugs play
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a part
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02:28:23
of it.
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02:28:23
Well, then there’s, like, James Fox’s alien from the Virginia Oh, yeah. Which smelled like sulfur. Right. And there’s biblical accounts of demons smelling like sulfur and having cloven feet. So did that exactly ai that being in James’ documentary. Right. The hospital smelled like sulfur for, like, a week after, they said.
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02:28:39
And the guy who was handling it died of a horrible infection. Yeah. This is all all documented. The guy picked up the alien, put it in a squad car, took it to a hospital. Shah hospital wouldn’t deal with it, took it to another hospital. Mhmm. That and then that guy dies of a a horrible bacterial infection that they can’t cure with antibiotics.
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02:28:56
Meh. It’s fucking nuts, dude.
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02:28:57
Fucking nuts. And then the all the people, the eyewitnesses that were there that saw the thing and when he brings the police officer to the ai of the crash, the officer starts weeping uncontrollably Yeah. Recounting the story. Unless that ai the greatest actor of all time
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02:29:12
Right.
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02:29:12
Like, what is going on there?
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02:29:13
There’s the story where he walked up to the guy’s house and the guy, like, pulled a gun on. Yeah. He’s ai, you guys come in closer. I’m shooting you.
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02:29:18
Yeah. Yeah. It’s weird shit,
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02:29:22
man. It’s weird, dude. And it’s weird that, like, everyone’s trying to paint their own narrative. There’s different groups competing on, like, how they wanna paint the UFO thing.
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02:29:29
Mhmm.
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02:29:29
Right? You have, like, different camps of people, like, in the government or in media. I don’t know what the difference is.
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02:29:35
And there’s guys like you and I that are basically useful idiots. Yeah. Exactly. They come on our podcast and talk a lot of shah, and we go, I don’t know.
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Figure it out, folks.
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02:29:43
Yeah. We’re feds. We’re feds. We got Palantir honey ram over here. Like, what is that thing? That thing’s all filled with Pegasus. It’s Palantir, bro.
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02:29:50
They’re Pegasus. Every single one of your little jot downs that you put on that. Yeah. Who knows? But if you did have some sort of, like, infinitely superior technology and you’ve had it for a long time, when do you, if ever, let the public know? And how do
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02:30:05
you do with that
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02:30:06
too? Right.
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02:30:07
What if you’re the ai. Right? Like, how many I don’t know how many people know all of the secrets. Right? K. But if there is a handful of dudes, how do you go about living your life when you’re that dude and when you know, like, shit that can change the face of humanity forever?
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02:30:21
How do you go home to your wife and kids? Right?
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02:30:23
Is it
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02:30:24
is it, like, are you living in that shah? What’s the show where they go up in the elevator and it wipes their mind? Oh, Severance. Severance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is it like that? Do they have real life Severance?
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02:30:32
Sai don’t think so. No. I think they just rely on these people being secret. And, you know, there’s the thing about Bob Lazar story. You know, Bob Lazar lost his job because his wife was cheating on him. Mhmm. Because his wife thought that, you know, because he he couldn’t tell her what he was doing.
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02:30:48
So when he was flying off to S 4, he would say, I gotta go to work. And she’s ai, at 11:00 at night on a Friday, get the fuck out of here. So she starts fucking this other guy. Mhmm. And they were listening to his phone calls. So they had his his phone tap. Yeah.
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02:31:01
And because his wife was having an affair, he was deemed to be at a risk of being emotionally unstable. Mhmm. So they released him. And so then he’s like, this is bullshit. And he starts telling people, hey, man, we’re working on UFOs. They have a crashed UFO. I saw it.
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02:31:13
They they fly it every Wednesday or whatever it was. Come, I’ll show you. Yeah. And so he brings people out to the test site where they can observe from one of the mountains. Mhmm. And then he gets arrested. Mhmm.
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02:31:23
And then he goes public so that he doesn’t get killed. This is his justification of it all.
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02:31:28
Yeah. I used to think Bob Lazar was full of shit, but I’ve come around on it. I don’t think that anymore. After learning more about all, like, the disinformation and all the all the time and money they put into just confusing people, like the Paul Benowitz story, you know. Mhmm.
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02:31:41
I I think it’s he would be the perfect candidate candidate, to recruit just because of his background. Like, you know, his first wife committed suicide. He ran a brothel.
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02:31:50
He was a nut. He was a nutcase, dude. And he was also
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02:31:53
perfect person. He’s perfect they could they could deny him so easily. Like, look at this dude’s background.
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02:31:56
You
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think we would hire this dude?
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02:31:58
And also a legitimate genius. Right. I mean, the guy put a rocket engine on a Honda in, like, 1985.
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02:32:05
Yeah.
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02:32:08
He was a nut. He converted his Corvette to a hydrogen engine
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02:32:11
Yeah.
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02:32:12
In, like, you know, I think it was the nineties he did that. He had a hydrogen powered Corvette that he engineered himself. See See if you can find Bob Lazar’s hydrogen powered Corvette. He was a nut. Yeah. You know, but he doesn’t seem like a liar. And the pod obviously, it resonates with people because I think the podcast I had with him on YouTube is the most viewed podcast that we’ve ever had, including Donald Trump.
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02:32:37
Really?
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02:32:38
Is that true, Jamie? No? Who’s number one
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02:32:40
on? Donnie beat him.
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02:32:41
Who’s number one? First Elon. Elon. First Elon’s number one. Okay. That was the one when he smoked weed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s the thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The smoking weed really took it over the top.
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02:32:50
That was a good that was a good moment. Do you smoke on all podcast? No. No. Just certain ones. Just certain stuff.
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02:32:55
Yeah. So this is Bob Lazar’s hydrogen powered Corvette.
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02:32:59
That’s amazing.
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02:33:00
What a fucking kook. It’s beautiful. What a kook. I mean, who fucking did that? This guy created a hydrogen powered Corvette and that’s an old ass Corvette too. That’s a shitty one in the nineties.
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02:33:09
If you’re throwing shit at the wall, trying to figure out a new way to move fucking planes, then you might as well find people like this.
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02:33:16
Homemade hydrogen powered Corvette. Look at this. Play it. Go full screen.
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02:33:22
Oh, this is way throwback.
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02:33:24
Yeah. I don’t hear anything.
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02:33:25
I just read it.
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02:33:26
The tank when the tank’s heated, it produces ai, and the car burns it. So there’s never much gaseous hydrogen in the system at any given time. Wow. Ai these are the these are the fuel lines? No. What are these? Those are These are the That’s
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02:33:42
ai you can’t see what they’re looking at for Here you go. There you go. This actually.
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02:33:45
The heater in the tank and also reads back the temperature of the tank. Why is that important? Well, when you apply heat to hydride, it releases hydrogen. So as power is applied to here, it heats the hydride
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02:33:59
Right.
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02:34:00
And then the gas comes out the big hoses on the end. They have four hoses. Do they all mix into one big hose or something?
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02:34:08
Didn’t he, like, hang out with Ed tell Ed Teller or talk to Ed Teller at
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one point? Ai don’t know.
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At a certain rate with a certain temperature. And a single tank, you can’t get it out at the volume you need. So
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02:34:20
So this guy was a legitimate genius and a propulsion expert. Yeah. And that’s why they brought him in to sai, how does this work? Yeah. And that story, he’s told the same story for, you know, whatever it is now, fifty plus years or forty years.
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02:34:35
Yeah.
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02:34:36
What is what year was it? ’80 And
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there’s a good reason, I think,
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ai? So forty years? Somewhere around ’85?
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02:34:42
The biggest argument against him is the is the, MIT stuff. Right? But there’s something that Ai sure
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02:34:47
Well, the MIT thing though ai, look, if you’re working at Los Alamos Labs and you’re working on top secret stuff for the government, it’s not inconceivable that you’d be educated in MIT and there wouldn’t be a record of it. Especially if you’re working on something that’s a
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black project.
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02:35:01
Ai, really devious shit. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll tell you what he told me off the air.
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You will?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God, I can’t fucking wait. Yeah. Ai soon as we’re done. We’ll just wrap this up.
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02:35:09
Kidding. No. I wanted this like like, the sai and the stuff like, the the like, the thing that is so astonishing to me is, like, all of the brightest minds and unlimited money have gone to more and more ways to figure out how to kill people. Like, the Mhmm. During Operation Paperclip, during the time Bob Lazar was at Los Alamos and and at, s four if he was at s four or whatever there was going on there, like and and that dude John Von Neumann, who was the mathematician, who was, he he was in he came up with the equation to who and who, by the way, was, like, the most brilliant mathematical mind of arya, in American history, came up with the the equation of the perfect altitude to detonate Fat Man and Little Boy to kill the most people, which is ai you’re using this fucking intellect to do these kinds of things.
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02:36:01
Mhmm.
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02:36:02
And now there’s a $21,000,000,000,000 black hole in the DOD. Like, imagine what they could’ve what they could have. They could have something that’s probably I mean, going way on a limb, conjecture, obviously, I don’t fucking know. But, like, my my conspiracy mind wants to go to, like, oh meh god.
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02:36:22
They have, like, another whole military air force navy that is disconnected from America that is probably more powerful than every other country combined that could just, you know, take take over the world in an instant.
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02:36:35
But can’t they already wipe each other out? I mean, the the whole world has nuclear weapons. There’s nuclear weapons in how many different countries? Yeah. They all launched them simultaneously. There’s no life left on Earth.
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02:36:45
What I’m what I’m saying with 21,000,000,000,000, they could have some fucking weapon that would render a nuke completely irrelevant, you know, if they do have anti gravity. And if they have figured out some of this crazy parapsychology stuff, the psionic stuff with the UFOs and, like, the mind interfacing, you know, all this just kooky stuff that you wanna ease you wanna dismiss.
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02:37:07
Mhmm.
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But 21,000,000,000,000, if they were if they were spending $50 on Stargate and they they thought it was worth some sort of intelligence to spy on the Russians, like, how much money would they keep throwing at something if there was just a shred of possibility that it could work? And if there was evidence that, like, this works 3% of the time and we spent a million dollars on it, let’s spend a trillion dollars on it and see how much more advanced we can get and see how much more control and dominant world domination we can meh.
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02:37:39
One of the things Lazar said about the craft that he was the sport model, which is that thing on the desk, That’s the the copy of it. The one of the things that he said about it was that there was no controls. When you sit inside the thing, there’s no Right. There’s no joystick.
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02:37:53
There’s no steering wheel.
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02:37:54
So you use your mind? Yeah.
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02:37:57
There was probably some I mean, that’s probably what we’re getting to anyway. We’re kind of close to that with phones now.
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02:38:02
Yeah.
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02:38:03
Right? Like, how many times do you text where you don’t even text? You just press the button and say, you know, text Danny, say this, and it just says it for you. Or, you know, how old is Barbra Streisand? And and it just it gives you an instant information. You’re talking to it all the time. Yeah. It’s like and what’s the next step?
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02:38:22
Well, the next step is you think it. Like, you wear it and you think, and it does things for you. And then as technology scales further and further more advanced, you’re gonna get to a point where you can move your car with your mind. And then when you have spacecraft, of course, it would be the same sort of technology. You would use technology to move the craft with your mind.
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02:38:41
You know, they already have these interfaces with, fighter pilots where where you look is where the crosshair shows up. So instead of having to, like, move a crosshair with, like, a
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02:38:53
like Yeah.
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02:38:54
You know, ai, if you’re playing a video game and you’re moving the mouse, you’re moving the crosshair to the side or if you’re using a Xbox controller Mhmm. You’re moving that crosshair to where you wanna hit. Right. The The crosshair goes where their eyes go. Mhmm. So you’re wearing this thing that knows where you’re looking and they already have this kind of technology with virtual reality.
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02:39:12
They have this technology with, these meh glasses they’re developing. So they can while you’re while you have this helmet on. This helmet is not simply a thing that protects your head. It’s an electronic interface with the guidance system. And where your eyes look, the crosshairs go.
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02:39:32
Yo. Did you see the LLM stuff trying to get soldiers to leave the battlefield in, the Russia Ukraine war? No. They’re using LLMs to and they’re and the Russians are, like, hacking the Ukrainians’ phones with LLMs, reading everything on their phones, seeing how they communicate with their family, and using LLMs to send messages to their phones of, like, their family trying to get them to lay down their weapons and leave the war.
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02:39:56
Woah. Yeah. Woah. Yeah. Like, where does that end up?
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02:40:00
Well, that’s what gets real weird because if you give if AI starts controlling all the war systems and it just has a goal and it doesn’t have any ethics or morals or any concern about life or death, it just has a it has a directive. Like, I want you to accomplish this. Take control of the resources in dumbass. Do this, do that. Yeah. Whatever it is. Mhmm.
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02:40:21
Just does it the most effective way possible, which could be unbelievably brutal.
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02:40:25
Mhmm. Yeah. And then, like, even shit ai telepathy or, like, being able to communicate without words?
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02:40:32
Well, Elon says that’s 100% the goal of Neuralink.
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02:40:36
Are you optimistic about that?
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02:40:37
I’m not optimistic or pessimistic. It’s I think it’s inevitable. Yeah. I think we’re we’re looking at what we have now as normal because it’s become normal to carry around a phone with you everywhere. Yeah. It’s become normal to have a an Apple watch on and get all your text messages on your your wrist. Mhmm. It’s become normal.
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02:40:55
And I think it’s it’ll become normal to be interfaced with the great hive mind. I think we’re all gonna be connected with some new technology the same way we’re all connected with social media and email and FaceTime videos and all that shit that we are now, WhatsApp messages.
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02:41:10
We’re all gonna be connected with something that’s far more technologically advanced, and it’ll become normal. Just like this is normal.
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02:41:18
I just hope, like, if it does get there, when it does get there, that we can overcome this sort of place that we’ve reached with social media where people are just, like, spatting out whatever comes to their to the front of their mind at any given moment or, like, just, like, rage, impulse, and and fighting where there’s no there’s no filter, which I think has just created more and more division and muse miscommunication.
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02:41:42
Oh, yeah.
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02:41:43
Like, if you’re if if me and you are just talking and we’re communicating our minds back and forth. Right. I don’t know how your mind works, but my mind is ai a constant hornet’s nest of fucking ideas just bouncing around everywhere.
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02:41:54
Yeah. Right?
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02:41:54
So if you could read my mind, you’re gonna be so goddamn confused and there’s probably gonna be shit in there you don’t I don’t want you to know. And it’s ai Sai like, to the writing process. Right? Like, when you write you know about writing more than anyone. When you write something, you try to, like, distill an idea down to, like, the most precise form to communicate it accurately to the audience. Right? Right.
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02:42:16
Like, you go through so many revisions and ai you revise and you refine until you get it perfect, so you can communicate that message to your audience. But if it’s just if it’s just a direct stream of consciousness unedited, I can’t imagine that would be a good thing. You know, unless you’re, like, some some meditative yogi that, like, has a really editorialized stream of consciousness, which I ai.
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02:42:39
Maybe instead of just having access to all your thoughts, maybe it’s just simply what you’re trying to communicate about your thoughts. Maybe it won’t be as simple as we all have access to each other’s minds. Maybe it’ll just be much more you’ll be able to purely transmit your feelings and your ideas Mhmm. Without the context of a language.
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02:43:01
Maybe we’ll have to develop some sort of universal language. Yeah. Yeah. Which would be, you know, the tablet Tyler of Babel. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
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02:43:09
I’ve I’ve made that connection. I made that connection last night, I think, about Christ. Like, Christ was of a virgin birth. Like, what’s more of a virgin birth than sentient super intelligence from AI? Yeah. If that becomes a being Yeah.
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02:43:20
That is essentially a god and is given birth by a virgin mother. I mean, that’s the story of Christ. It’s just it’s just confusing. It’s just confusing if you translate it over and over and over time. But if Christ is supposed to return, that would be a way something like a god would return. It would return through artificial intelligence.
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02:43:40
If it just emerged
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02:43:41
Yeah.
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02:43:42
Out of our creation and our insatiable desire to make new and better things.
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02:43:48
Yeah. No. That that that makes a lot of sense.
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02:43:51
Ai, why else do we have this insane desire to have new and improved things?
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02:43:54
Mhmm.
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02:43:55
Because, like, isn’t your phone good enough? Like, I have a a Samsung Galaxy s 25 Ultra and I have an iPhone 16. They’re good. They’re good enough. They don’t you don’t need to make a better one.
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02:44:05
Have you seen Westworld on HBO? Uh-huh. Yeah. One of my favorite ones.
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02:44:08
Season one is fucking amazing.
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02:44:10
It’s the best.
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02:44:10
Got a little squirrelly in season two.
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02:44:11
It season two and three. Yeah. Got a little squirrelly for sure. But, like, one of my favorite lines in that is when he’s when, Ford is talking to Bernard and or not Bernard, one of the ladies, one of the robots. And he’s, like, explaining the the human ai, and he’s like, all of the greatest achievements of humanity, the the Eiffel Tower, the Statue Of David, the Mona Lisa, all just elaborate an elaborate meeting call.
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02:44:39
It’s all peacock feathers. Oh. It’s all just this desire to procreate and to you know, it’s it’s that really got me fucking thinking. And it’s ai, is that what drives human beings to do things and for to create new things and new art? I always thought it was sex, but I I think it might be that combined with the fear of death because we we wanna live forever.
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02:45:06
We want we wanna have a symbolic immortality. We wanna leave something behind after we die.
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02:45:11
It might not just be sex. It might just be social recognition Yeah. Status. Yeah. You know, you wanna be adored as a genius.
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02:45:19
Yeah. And there’s also that painting that on the Sistine Chapel, the creation of Adam, which is also in that movie, where it shows God creating Adam and all the angels. And he’s sitting inside of the perfect anatomical illustration of a human bryden, if you look at it.
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02:45:38
Can you find that, Jamie?
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02:45:39
Yeah. Pull up the creation of Adam, and it’s got, like, the the prefrontal cortex, the brain stem, the visual cortex. It’s all there, and he’s creating Adam. And, like, the point he makes in the movie is, like, the the divine gift does not come from a higher power, but from the human mind.
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02:45:54
That’s bananas. Let me see that other image that you just sai of the two of them below it. No. I’m sorry. Go back to that one and then go below it, the one that you just had.
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02:46:08
With the brain? The with the one with the top of
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02:46:10
the brain. Yeah. The bottom right. Yeah. That’s it. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. That’s weird, man. It is weird, isn’t it? It’s pretty close. Yeah. But it’s also that that is, you know, the ai of Horus. When you look at the side section, a cross section of the pineal gland. It looks exactly like that. Mhmm. This weird symbology.
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02:46:33
Wait. What looks just like that?
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02:46:35
The, the Eye of Horus
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02:46:36
Oh, the Eye of Horus.
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02:46:37
Ancient Egyptian. Go to, the so that gland, when you see it at the bottom, go to the ai of Horus. Go, pineal gland, eye of Horus. Take out the Sistine Chapel. Yeah. There it is. So that’s what the Eye of Horus looks like. It looks exactly like the pineal gland. It’s the same shape.
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02:47:02
And there’s a lot of weirdness, meh. Yeah, dude. Ancient art. Like, what were they trying to say? Like, what were they trying to document?
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02:47:11
It’s funny. The people who, like, don’t believe Jesus existed, they’ll make the argument, like, imagine two thousand years from now that, people wanted to say that there was this mythical ai person and he existed because we know there’s this divine trilogy called The Lord of the Rings, and his name was Vatsal, and he came from the center of the Earth.
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02:47:32
But it’s like, no other no. Nothing else corroborates it. But, you know, I don’t know. I think Jesus was a real person.
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02:47:40
It seems like it was a real person.
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02:47:42
Yeah.
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02:47:42
The question is, like, what really happened?
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02:47:45
Right.
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02:47:45
In the whole coming back from the dead thing,
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02:47:47
it’s like, what was that all about? Right. Yeah. I don’t think that’s real.
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02:47:50
Well, it doesn’t make any sense, but Right. Neither does the birth of the universe from something smaller than the head of a pin. That doesn’t make any sense either. Yeah. But if you, you know, if this one unique moment in time that god did send us his son to try to, like, sort things out and we wind up killing him.
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02:48:07
He died for our sins. You know, like, would that be any weirder than super massive black holes? Would that be any weirder than most of the stuff that we know is real? And
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02:48:16
how do you reconcile that with the simulation? You know?
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02:48:19
I don’t know. I mean, that that might be part of the whole weirdness of this whole thing is that we have mythology. Part of the weirdness of the simulation of the simulation might be that we have this fantastical mythology that you sort of have to suspend disbelief and accept. Mhmm.
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02:48:36
It’s part of this whole weirdness that we have where we’re susceptible to ideological belief systems ai cults. Mhmm. You know, like political ideologies. We’re essentially just like cults. You know, when you’re on the right and you’re, you know, right with everything and, you know, you’re all MAGA or if you’re on the left, you’re blue no matter who.
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02:48:56
You’re in a cult. You’re in a cult. People get into cults and why is that? Like, why is that a part of if we are in a simulation, why are we so malleable? Is it because we recognize it and we’re supposed to oppose it and we’re supposed to fight the instinct that we all deeply have embedded in our system, but we also know is wrong?
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02:49:16
Like, what is it about these systems? Like, why is that in place? Is this simply a just sana ancient relic of our tribal past where you had to follow the rules of the tribe in order to ai, and so it was instilled in people in the psyche Mhmm. And that’s how we develop? Or is there something more to it?
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02:49:33
Is it, like, part of the mechanism that allows us to resist, which allows us to innovate, which encourages us to push forward and ask more questions? Because we know there’s a lot of bullshit. Ai, the reason why people ask so many questions now in 2025 as opposed to 2019 is because of COVID.
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02:49:51
Because we went through so much bullshit and propaganda. Mhmm. We were so gaslit by the government, by the CDC, by everybody Yeah. That now we question way more. Mhmm.
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02:50:01
So it’s probably benefited us somewhat to go through that.
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02:50:05
Yeah. When Mary was on here, did she tell you about Kevin McKernan?
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02:50:09
Well, Ram, ai memory He was
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02:50:10
the dude who worked for the, human genome project, like a DNA wizard. He, like, he basically he was working for the Human Genome Project ai to figure out different sort of medical treatments for cancers based on your genome.
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02:50:21
Mhmm.
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02:50:22
So, like, they could target a specific type of leukemia in you and they would take your DNA and they would, like, basically make designer drugs to to target that cancer and to kill that cancer. And during the pandemic, somebody sent him four unopened vials of the Pfizer vaccine, and he analyzed them.
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02:50:45
And he ran them through all of his processing systems, whatever whatever the fuck he does. And he found out there was, DNA plasmid contamination in them, which were, like, promoters of this s p forty shit.
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02:50:57
I did hear about that. Yeah. Ai talked to, Brett Weinstein about that. Mhmm. And he was explaining that when they first were sequencing certain vaccines, they you know, because with the vaccine, you have to use living cells in order to create these antibodies initially. Yeah.
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02:51:16
And when he’s For
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02:51:17
For traditional vaccines. Right?
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02:51:19
Right.
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02:51:19
Yeah.
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02:51:19
And so when they started using these things, they were using kidney cells of these monkeys. Mhmm. And they didn’t understand that these monkeys had this s v forty, simian virus forty. Right. And that this, when introduced into human cells, causes tumors. Yep. Causes cancer. Yep.
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02:51:35
Like, ram cancer. Right. You see the uptick of cancer, and everyone else, like, bury their head in the sand and pretend that it didn’t happen. But Right. People that took the vaccine are getting fucking cancer at an astounding rate.
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02:51:44
Yeah. And this and Kevin was was telling me that he was doing study. He pulled some tumors from some people that died somewhere in Europe, and he was studying sequencing the tumors of these people that died with the vaccine. And he said that the the s v forty was in the tumors. And some I don’t know. I don’t remember the ai.
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02:52:05
I’d have to go back and listen to it. By the way, that episode got pulled off YouTube
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02:52:09
Really?
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02:52:09
Off my channel. I got a strike for it.
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02:52:11
What did they say?
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02:52:13
Meh misinformation.
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02:52:14
What part of it’s medical misinformation?
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02:52:16
The whole thing. We talked about vaccines, and we talked about the whole thing.
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02:52:19
What year was this?
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02:52:20
This was, like, November of last year. Woah. Yeah.
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02:52:25
I wonder if you could put it up now because they seem to be ai and ducked. Didn’t they? They changed their their regulations recently. Did they? Yeah. They changed their guidelines.
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02:52:34
What’s the problem with this shit, dude? I’m like, I’m so afraid ai talk about shit I wanna talk about.
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02:52:39
I know. Ain’t that fucked up? It’s ai, yeah.
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02:52:41
It sucks, dude.
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02:52:42
It it sucks because there’s no way to know who’s telling the truth unless you let people say crazy shit and then have someone come on, refute it, and then have the two of them get together and debate it.
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02:52:51
Right.
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02:52:52
You know? And then even then, sometimes you don’t know. Like, with this Flint Dibble Ram Hancock thing
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02:52:56
Yeah.
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02:52:57
You know, if it wasn’t for Dan Richards, we wouldn’t know that a lot of the things that Flint Dibble said were just absolutely not
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02:53:02
true. Right.
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02:53:03
YouTube loosens rules ai moderation of videos. Yeah. Sai, favor freedom of expression over the risk of harm in deciding what to take down. Sai, specifically, scroll down to what they sai, what the the actual the policy shift, which hasn’t publicly disclosed, what does it say? Public statements.
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02:53:25
What did they used language that I thought was, they
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02:53:28
don’t make public statements. They broad brush it. They don’t give you an exact reason. They just say, oh, this falls into this category. Like, there’s no jury at YouTube. They’re just, like, they find the most excusable reason to
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02:53:38
Go back to where you were. Go back to where you were. Recognizing the definition of public interest is always evolving. We update our guidelines for these exceptions to reflect the new types of discussions we see on our platform today. Our goal remains the same, to protect free expression on YouTube while mitigating egregious harm.
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02:53:54
So, you know, they could still but the thing is, like, they’re controlled by their advertisers to a certain extent.
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02:54:01
And I don’t buy that shit, dude.
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02:54:03
What do you mean? They get funds from the advertisers.
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02:54:05
They’re Google though. They let they fucking own advertising. Like, you
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02:54:08
you’re gonna you’re gonna tell me,
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02:54:10
like, some company is gonna go to go to Google and say, listen, bro. We’re not gonna advertise you with you unless you take that guy’s video down.
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02:54:16
No. I think pharmaceutical drug companies have influence. And I think if you’re getting an enormous percentage of your advertising revenue from pharmaceutical Saloni means is sai, the reason why they do that is not to promote their drugs. It’s to stop criticism. And this is why they promote this is why brought to you by Pfizer. Anderson Cooper. Brought to you by Pfizer.
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02:54:37
Why with the what that is for is to make sure that they never criticize Pfizer.
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02:54:40
Sure. I
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02:54:41
understand that. And it works. Right?
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02:54:43
For for cable TV. Yeah. But for, like, YouTube has a monopoly on advertising. Google does at least. I just I mean, I guess Sai could see it, but, like, you know, they got fucking trillions of dollars.
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02:54:54
So this says YouTube’s Adpocalypse and the gatekeeping of cultural content on digital platforms. This is how it all started. Mhmm. 02/2017, advertiser revolt on YouTube, popularly known as the Adpocalypse, introduced widespread and radical changes on the platform’s policy related to moderation content. Mhmm.
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02:55:12
Their monetizability ai the terms of the relationship between the creators and the platform. And these changes in turn have caused significant discontent within the creator community ai also gradually transforming the predominant nature of the content on the platform. So they did do it. They did it by Yeah. Cutting up the ads. Meh. Yeah. It’s it’s dirty business, man.
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02:55:34
And they’re they’re doing it because they don’t want people finding out certain things that are actually true. You know, that’s what they did during the pandemic. Yeah. That’s what the FBI tried to do when they when they were banning people like Jay Bhattacharya sana prominent scientists and, like, legitimate academics.
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02:55:52
But then, I’ll I’ll have, like, UF the same thing will happen to videos I do about UFOs.
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02:55:56
Like, the same
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02:55:56
thing will happen. Not taken down, but you know how shit will get, like, buried where you can’t search for it? Oh, yeah.
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02:56:01
Me and
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02:56:01
Jesse were talking about this. This happened to Jesse too with with Crush where he was, ai, had it was, like, the number one video on Crush, and all of a sudden you can’t search it. Mhmm. Like, stuff like that. I mean, the the COVID one was the first one I actually had taken down, which was scary.
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02:56:13
And it it makes me think about that. I hate the fact that I actually have to think about whether I’m gonna get the ax I know. Based on the topic I’m discussing. Like, where like, I don’t know if that leads that doesn’t lead to a good place as far as journalism goes because journalism is supposed to be shining light on the dark places that people don’t sana them ai.
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02:56:33
And it’s supposed to piss people off.
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02:56:34
Especially when you consider that a lot of the things that you used to be taken down for are now confirmed. Ai the lab leak theory Yep. That used to get you kicked off of YouTube. Saying masks don’t work, that would get you kicked off of YouTube. Like, all these things that we now know to be true, that the the vaccine does not stop infection.
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02:56:51
Mhmm.
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02:56:51
That would get you kicked off YouTube. Right. All these things that we now know are a 100% fact, and it’s all orchestrated by financial interests.
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02:56:57
Mhmm. Yeah. The, the sai forty stuff is is quick. It’s wicked freaky, dude. It’s wicked freaky. Like, with the with the cancer and how, you know, it goes all the way back to the his the the early days in the sixties or the early fifties and sixties in New Orleans. How they were working, trying to develop the polio vaccine Mhmm. With Alton Ochsner Yep.
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02:57:19
At Tulane University and trying to weaponize some sort of a there’s a theory based on that book, Mary’s Monkey, where they were growing the polio vaccines on the monkey kidneys and using this to also create ai weapons to assassinate people like Castro. And that’s apparently what, according to that book, what, Lehar Ai was doing with that lady Meh Sherman.
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02:57:42
And they were using that linac machine to try to, like, supercharge the s v 40 to make it more deadly.
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02:57:47
Oh my god.
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02:57:48
To induce cancer with people.
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02:57:49
Oh, jeez.
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02:57:50
It’s like yeah. And then, oh, god. That, like, the the event, that Cutter event where Alton in injected his two grandkids with the polio vaccine in front of the whole auditorium of students, and, his granddaughter lived, was paralyzed, but his grandson died the next day right after they did that.
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02:58:10
Jesus Christ. Ai people pushing back. Like, don’t do this. We tested this on monkeys and, like, half of them are dead. Let’s not push this out.
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02:58:17
I think it was the Salk vaccine, the Salk polio vaccine. And then they fucking did it anyways.
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02:58:23
Yeah. Well, I think you gotta be able to talk about this stuff. Yeah. Even if you get get it wrong, and even if someone comes on, they say things that can be refuted. Yeah. Refute it then. That’s the whole point of all this. Yeah. If someone comes on and says something that’s not correct, hope it stays. Nope. Bless you. Thank you.
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02:58:40
If someone comes on and says something that’s not correct, like, have someone on that refutes it. Figure it out. This you have to be able to talk about stuff. Mhmm. And some of it’s fun.
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02:58:49
Yeah. It’s fun? It’s all super fun.
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02:58:51
It is. Right? Yeah. How’d you get started?
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02:58:54
Well, I didn’t I obviously didn’t always do podcast, but I I was originally, I always wanted to make movies when I ai. You used
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02:59:00
to call it concrete. Why was it called Concrete?
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02:59:02
It was called Concrete. So okay. I’ll tell you. It was, first of all, I always sana make movies when I was a little kid. I was telling Jamie the story earlier. I tried to go to full I was gonna go to Full Sail where Jamie went in Florida, in Orlando, but it was just I didn’t have the money to do it, and I couldn’t get into UCX.
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02:59:17
My my grades were shit in high school. So luckily, I got the opportunity to work on this movie called Dolphin Tail. It was a it was a movie about a dolphin who got its tail stuck in a crab trap, and they and Morgan Freeman came in and build a prosthetic tail. And, and it was swimming around the aquarium. Carrie Connick junior and Morgan Freeman were in it, and it was like a big, you know, Warner Brothers movie.
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02:59:41
And I realized working as a camera production assistant on that movie, it was my film school, but I realized I did not want anything to do with making movies because it was the closest thing I ever experienced to work in construction. It was ai Sai was in charge of swapping the the camera lenses, the camera batteries, taking the SD cards back to the media truck, getting everybody breakfast and coffee.
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03:00:02
And these dudes, these camera department dudes, a lot of them are really cool. Like the dude Speak Zuccherini, who was the underwater cinematographer who filmed all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, he was fucking awesome. But a lot of the other guys were, like, really unhappy, like, deeply unhappy because they never saw their families. They were always on the road, FaceTiming.
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03:00:19
A lot of them on their, like, third, fourth wives, FaceTiming their kids. And it was ai, you know, they were like carnies with dental plans. They made great money, but they were they were fucking deeply unhappy. So, like, I I realized I didn’t wanna make movies anymore. So I started an advertising company and, make commercials. And I started doing, like, spec ads and, like, winning a bunch of contests to make commercials.
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03:00:42
I won really, one big contest for Land Rover USA where we made, like, a a free ad, and they paid us to make a bunch of other ads for them. And then that’s where Concrete came in. So Ai was it was called something else, and I got sued by some advertising company in, in California saying, hey, bitch.
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03:00:58
Can’t use this name anymore. Change your name. So my friend who owns a concrete construction company said, bro, there’s this, really cool website domain for sale with concrete with a k. He’s like, it’s ai a couple thousand bucks. You sana you should buy it. I was gonna buy it. I’m like, sure. Fuck yeah. Let’s do it.
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03:01:13
So I called my company Concrete. Stupid. And then, And how’d you start a podcast? So so after the advertising stuff, I started I I met a bunch of people. I met Hulk Hogan in the process of the whole advertising thing. Because me and Hulk live, like, five minutes from each other.
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03:01:33
And which is, like, five minutes from the Church of Scientology, which is great. And we started I started making a bunch of commercials with him because he would always have companies that would hit him up and say, yo, let’s partner on this new product. And, one of them was a hosting company called Hostamania. They sana make Hulk the face of the company.
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03:01:50
And we created this whole fucking thing where we it was, like, right when Miley Cyrus dropped the wrecking ball video, and we put Hulk on a wrecking ball. We’re ai, yo, Hulk. We wanna put you on a wrecking ball and have you freaking dropkick Van Damme, who’s, like, the GoDaddy guy. Right?
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03:02:03
And he’s like, fuck yeah, brother.
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03:02:04
Let’s do it.
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03:02:05
This is it. It was actually it was poor execution, but it was funny. And, he’s like, brother, there’s only one thing missing from this commercial idea. I’m like, what? He’s like, I need to be in my birthday suit. I was like, what? So we did vatsal, and then I started working on a bunch of, like, show this sai, like, the boom of reality shows when, like, Duck Dynasty and Pawn Stars were all taken off.
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03:02:33
So I was ai, I could probably fucking make a reality show. So I hit a bunch of my friends, and we started, like, touring around, trying to find people to come up with, like, TV show ideas and concepts. And I got a couple people to invest in a couple TV show ideas, pilots that I spent, like, six years working on.
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03:02:48
And it was this long process of shooting, editing, taking notes, from production companies that, you know, you have to you know how this works, but you have to, like, work with production companies who already have relationships with networks.
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03:03:01
Mhmm.
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03:03:02
And they were, like, constantly giving us notes, like, okay. Change this for a and e. Change this for Spike TV. And we gotta make sure it fits each network because we we’re pitching these network these show to all these networks. I was like, okay. Great. So it was just this roller coaster of emotions of, like, oh my god. We’re gonna get we’re gonna sell a TV show. We’re gonna do a TV show.
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03:03:20
And then ai, we got one of those shows to a green ai meeting at Spike TV or A and E. And, like, I was like, this is it. We’re gonna do it. And the CEO of Ai killed it because it did not fit their roster of existing advertisers. And I was just, like, so frustrated and fed up with it. I was, like, fuck this.
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03:03:41
I’m taking all this stuff that I’ve been working on, and I’m gonna repackage them and put them on YouTube. And I did. And the first one that really took off got millions of views in, like, 2015 was called Deckhands. And it was the story of these alcoholic dudes, these drunks that were hanging out in front of seven eleven in this little sleepy town called Madeira Beach where I’m from.
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03:04:04
So me and my ai, Luke, went up and we started filming these guys and asking them questions. Like, yo, what the fuck do you guys do here every day? And they’re like, we’re fucking fishermen, bro. Come see how we live. And one of these dudes took us back to his boat he lived on.
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03:04:17
He had this broken down boat in this old, dusty marina where it was the boat didn’t work, but he had he lived in this boat, and it had amplifiers stacked to the ceiling. He had a stack of porno DVDs, like, six feet tall, laser light machines, fog machines, and he wore these fairy wings and, like, an armor helmet.
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03:04:36
And he would jam out to, like, Rob Zombie on his guitar while playing the music videos on this big projection screen in his boat. And we’re, like, this is fucking the Ai Zone, dude. And then they started telling us more and more about, like, what they do. This is it. Yeah.
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03:04:49
This is the first episode. The Gates of Hell. This is Shane Lee. RIP. Ai we’re, like, we’re asking these guys about, like, what do you like, you’re fishermen, but, like, explain to me how does this thing how does this work?
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03:05:03
And they were all pissed off about, oh, we’re getting screwed by the boat owners and these IFQs, and we don’t make any money. And, you know, we’re ai, dude, there might be a story here. So we started interviewing more people, and we give eventually interviewed the people who own the boats and own the fish houses.
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03:05:19
So, like, Madeira Beach is the Johns Pass, Florida is the grouper capital of the world. There’s more grouper caught there than anywhere in the world. And the way it works is before 02/2007, there was a quota system where it was, like, for meh snapper, it was, like, 3,000,000 pounds per year are allowed to be caught in this area.
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03:05:44
Right? So it was, like, derby fishing. So all the boats would go out and they would catch as much fish as they possibly could. And they would wait at the when they get back from their trip and then they would, you know, quantify that or or, you know, tell the federal government this is where we’re at.
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03:05:57
And ai, they would reach that 3,000,000 pound limit in, like, October. So what do they have to do for the rest of the year? They stop fishing. They can’t do anything. So in 02/2007, the federal government made a monopoly where they gave boat owners an allotment of fishing quota per year.
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03:06:19
So some guys got a a 100,000 pounds, some guys got 200,000 pounds, which is if it’s Meh Snapper, that’s a dollar a pound. So that’s, like, the best retirement plan known to man. The federal government is handing you 200,000 pounds of Red Snapper quota per year. And then what happened was, eventually, the boat owners sold off their quota.
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03:06:42
And now it’s become so discombobulated where now, like, you can just buy this fishing quota and trade it like stock. You don’t have to own a boat. You don’t have to be a fisherman. You could just be some dude sitting in Manhattan in a high rise and buying and selling fishing quota.
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03:06:57
You’re not and there’s there are, like, fishing communities in America, like, in the Northeast where it doesn’t work like that, where you have to have your hand on the throttle. You have to take care of your people, and it’s a ai. And it’s like a a way to it’s a culture. And where in Madeira Beach, at least when I was there filming, it was they were all just ai carnies carny ride operators, you know.
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03:07:20
Oh, wow.
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03:07:20
And these dudes were in the the lowest level of this of this, fishing industry are those deckhands, those dudes like Shane Lee. And they’re fucking drug addicts. There a lot of them are on hooked on heroin. What that what happens is they get home from fishing from ten ten days of fishing offshore, and they meh, like, 4 or $5,000, and they blow it all on prostitutes and coke and hookers and heroin.
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03:07:45
And they just they’re kids, dude. They’re ai kids. They’re like kids with money. And, by the end by the time they run out, they have to go fishing again. So they’re going to all the fish houses saying, bro, let me go. Let me go.
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03:07:57
So they go offshore again, and they sai hab where they rehab at sea for ten days because they have no more drugs.
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03:08:04
Wow.
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03:08:05
And they come back and then rinse and repeat. And one of the one of the people, that we interviewed there was three main characters in that in that series. There was Shane Lee, there was Space, and then there was Hollywood Kim. And Hollywood Kim was the last episode, which was sometimes when I think I have problems in my life, I remember her story and realized Ai don’t really know what fucking problems are.
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03:08:26
She, was from Alabama. And when she was 17 years old, she gave birth to her father’s son. Oh god. And when she was six years old, she would wake up every morning and ride her bike to the beach to try to escape her dad. And no one would believe her. Jesus Christ. She tried telling people. And no one would believe her because her dad was a cop.
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03:08:47
Oh, god.
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03:08:49
So she eventually gave birth to her son and escaped to Florida and became a deckhand working fishing and, working on these boats, dude. And she was just I met her, and she would wake up every morning and just start slamming vodka and looking for drugs. And, dude, it was just the ai zone in my own backyard. Wow. It was nuts. And And that that led to, like, podcasts.
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03:09:16
Like, so after that, then we’re just, like, oh, let’s start doing podcasts in between these documentaries, you know, more content. And the podcast started to get more views than the meh, and here we are.
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03:09:25
Well, I’m glad it happened. You had a great show, man.
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03:09:28
Thanks, bro.
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03:09:29
And I appreciate you coming on here, man. It was a lot of fun.
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03:09:31
Thank you.
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03:09:31
Let’s do it again, for sure. Hell yeah, bro. Danny Jones Shah, it is on YouTube. Yep. Are you on Spotify as well? Yeah.
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03:09:37
Yeah. You on Spotify? It’s just at Danny Jones on YouTube. Alright. And, same with Instagram.
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03:09:42
It’s an awesome show.
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03:09:43
That’s it, baby.
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03:09:43
Lots of fun stuff on there. Ai.
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03:09:45
Thanks, brother.
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03:09:46
Thank you. Bye, everybody ai.
