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Jim Norton is a comic, actor, broadcast personality, and host of the podcast “Jim Norton Can’t Save You.” He also co-hosts “Sword Fight with Nikki and Jim Norton,” and “UFC Unfiltered.” Watch his new special, “Jim Norton: Domesticated Animal,” on YouTube.https://www.youtube.com/@JimNortonComedyhttps://www.jimnorton.com
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#2342 – Jim Norton Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast Episode Summary
Key Points & Major Topics:
– The episode features Joe Rogan and comedian Jim Norton in a wide-ranging, candid conversation. They discuss the evolution of media, comedy, technology, and personal experiences.
– They reflect on the history and impact of radio shows like Opie & Anthony, the transition to podcasts, and the changing landscape of content distribution (e.g., SiriusXM, Spotify, YouTube).
– The conversation covers the influence of social media and AI, including concerns about privacy, censorship, and ideological bias in tech platforms.
– They discuss the psychological effects of fame, criticism, and the challenges of being a public figure, including dealing with online feedback and personal attacks.
– The episode touches on societal issues such as free speech, media bias, and the importance of defending principles even for those you disagree with.
– Health and wellness are discussed, including diet (bread quality, supplements), exercise, and the impact of lifestyle choices on mental and physical health.
– The conversation includes anecdotes about celebrity encounters, acting, and the unique personalities of high achievers in various fields.
– They also share personal stories about relationships, pets, and the quirks of daily life.
Important Guests/Speakers:
– Jim Norton is the primary guest, sharing insights from his career in comedy and radio.
– Occasional references are made to other comedians (e.g., Tom Segura, Anthony Cumia, Andrew Schultz), public figures (e.g., Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Cruise), and media personalities.
Actionable Insights, Advice, or Tips:
– Limit social media consumption to protect mental health and allow for independent thought.
– Be cautious with processed foods, especially bread in the U.S., and consider dietary changes for better health.
– Use supplements like vitamin D, B12, and magnesium, especially if you have limited sun exposure.
– Embrace self-reflection and be open to being wrong; don’t seek validation from online feedback.
– Defend free speech and privacy rights universally, not just for those you agree with.
Recurring Themes/Overall Messages:
– The importance of authenticity, self-awareness, and resilience in the face of public scrutiny.
– The need for open dialogue and defending principles over partisanship.
– The value of adapting to change, whether in media, technology, or personal health.
– A humorous, self-deprecating approach to life’s challenges and the comedy profession.
Summary:
This episode is a deep, humorous, and insightful conversation between Joe Rogan and Jim Norton, exploring the evolution of media, the impact of technology and social media, the challenges of public life, and the importance of health and authenticity. They offer practical advice on mental and physical well-being, stress the need for defending free speech, and share personal stories that highlight the complexities of modern life and comedy.
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#2342 – Jim Norton Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Showing my day. Joe Rogan podcast ai, all day. How do I fucking put this up?
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Riley, what are you gonna do with
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it? Yeah. I should’ve thrown it out, but I’m just I feel like if somebody put effort into it and gave it to me, just keep it.
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Yeah. I know. Well, that’s how I went up with this fucking snake on the dust.
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This is from
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this during the entire podcast, Arya Williams had this in his pants, and he was saying that he had a he got a worm. And he he named his worm Dimitri at the end of the podcast. He pulls it out. And then he got such a fucking kick out of the fact that it was still on the desk when I interviewed Trump.
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I hope you explained where
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it came from.
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I didn’t see.
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President hold that. I didn’t say anything. I think it’s funny because when you said that, I’m like, who gave that to? Is that a seven year old in Mr. Farley? I was like, ai. Works out perfect. That feels correct. He is so unique. He is. And, I forgot he was in Something About Meh. Oh, yeah.
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Which is literally one of the funniest movies ever made. Ever. And I watched him again. I’m like, goddamn. I wish I was in that.
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I wish I had one line in that movie.
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Right. Right. Right. That was one well, the Farley Brothers, they’re the best. They they have some bangers, man. You know, Kingpin?
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Yeah. Bill Murray. Oh my god. I’m a take this off.
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You don’t like them?
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No. No. They’re fine. I just I I’m so used to I hate my own voice and hearing it come back. It’s ai I’ve been doing radio for twenty years, and I still don’t like to listen to my own fucking voice.
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To do one. He used to do the one ear thing.
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But I saw Rich Voss. Like, too many times I’ve seen clips of Voss, and he just does vatsal.
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And I’m like, do I
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look like that? Have I looked like that for two decades? I’m like, fucking Rich, put it on or take it off. Ai like one ear. He just likes one ear open. Ai it on one ear. I I firmly believe that’s some kind of like a a a childhood, like, defense thing. Like, there was something fishy that happened in childhood where you wanna just kinda somehow stay present.
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Always be aware. Yeah. Somebody get attacked.
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Somebody fumbled. Yeah. Somebody fumbled ai. Interesting. Gotta keep my ears.
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I don’t know. That’s a thing though. A lot of people like one ear on. I’ve it’s not uncommon. You feel
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when you have both ears covered, I just feel like I’m lost sana I’m not in the room. Mhmm. And it’s it’s I guess I’ve gotten a little bit better with it. But just now, I’m like, wow. I really, I can’t hear.
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I always feel like I’m just fully locked in. You know? I don’t hear anything else.
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I don’t hear any When the headphones are on. Yeah.
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I like the headphones on. I like to be locked in.
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Yeah. I do. But I just feel like it feels like I’m underwater sometimes. Mhmm. I don’t I went in for an MRI. I just go for them, like, once a year. And they
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put Just for the fuck of it?
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I I want to. Yeah. I’m Pam getting older, and I’m like, you know, I wanna fucking make sure I’m ai. Like, make sure there’s no lumps ai anything. And, they give you those shitty headphones. And I’m so claustrophobic. I’m I’m laying there, and I’m terrified. And the ai. Yeah. Being married prepares you for that.
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You get good at blocking out Oh ai god. Talk.
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You feel claustrophobic. There’s a loud noise. You wanna kill yourself.
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Yeah. My wife will be in full conversation with me. I have no idea what she said. I just fully blocked it out. Yeah.
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How many things have I agreed to? Exactly. Because I wanted to shah up.
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I told you about it the other day. I’m like, you did? Oh. I don’t wanna argue. I’m like, I forgot.
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Yeah. I’m sorry. I just I won’t tell you. But it sai I asked the guy, he goes, you want music? And I’m like, meh. I’ll have sai I’m like, play rock. Ai rock. And he was, fucking, like, he didn’t speak English that well. So he started playing the Rocky theme song over and over. Ai I actually bailed out and got out of the machine.
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I couldn’t
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You couldn’t hear the song anymore?
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No. I just was too freaked out. I’m like, this guy’s not hearing me. I’m squeezing that fucking ball that meh it’s awful. So he had to take me out. And I’m like, I’ll go back in. He goes, no. We’ll have to start over. Because once apparently, in MRI, like, you have to be in the same position. Yeah.
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So I just I said, fuck. If they did my whole body and they just they couldn’t finish with the brain, I was just like, I’m done. I’m out.
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Your brain’s fine. You don’t wanna look in there anywhere. I don’t know.
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No. Ai don’t really wanna see what’s going on. No. No. No. Just little wires across the wrong way. Imagine if you could look
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into your brain and see your meh.
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Eventually. I mean, Black Mirror did an episode of that where you like with I love how they keep the technology simple, where you’re just kind of scrolling through something, and they can, like, see all the the meh. And you’ll eventually be able to to do that. I mean
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Yeah. Eventually, we’ll have a hard drive in our head.
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I would do it too. I like I would absolutely link up. We I think we talked this last about Ray Kurzweil, who talks about, like, singularity.
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Uh-huh.
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I still think his time frame is wishful thinking. He thinks by, like, ai. Right? Yeah. He’ll be in his, like, nineties. So I think he’s just trying to hope it happens ai.
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Be right. That ai sense. Twenty years from now? Yeah. I think that’s correct.
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I hope so.
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I I think everything’s moving in exponential pace. And I think, you know, if you just look at what’s happening with Ai. AI meh years ago was non existent. You never heard anything
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about it.
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And now, everybody uses it on their phone all the time.
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I use it. My wife’s obsessed with it, which is irritating, because shah, like, literally will just talk to it. And so I’m ai, alright. Let me try it and see. But it’s great if, like, you get an error message on your computer. Like, what does fucking Meh, error one one zero one meh?
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And then you add it, and it actually tells you in a very comprehensive way what that error message means. Better than googling something.
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Oh, yeah.
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So I’m using it for that. But
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It’s great for a lot of things. Kids are using it though, unfortunately, for, like, term papers and shah, and they’re getting busted. Because AI knows when it’s Ai, so they just run the paper into Ai. And AI goes, oh, yeah. AI made
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Oh, yeah. That’s that’s my work. Yeah. That sucks.
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I did that. Yeah.
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But Ai mean, it’s good for, for looking things up. Right now, I’m just using it as a better Google. But when I attach it to my bryden, no. Because I was in it the other day, and they just said we detected suspicious activity, so they sana me to log in. Maybe because I had a VPN or something. Mhmm. Because in Texas, you can’t jerk off without a fucking VPN.
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They want your license
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to watch porn. Isn’t that crazy? It sucks. It’s a we’re we’re protecting children too fucking late. First of all, as if kids don’t know about VPNs, they all do.
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And it’s also one of those things where Ai get you don’t want your kids to watch porn. That’s fine. And it’s a lot harder. It was harder when I was a child to get you to find, like, magazines in the woods. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I meant the smell of those old shitty magazines and ai them in fucking it was the best.
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But now if I had it on my phone or I had the availability, I mean, my sex addiction would have been even worse. So I guess what I get why they wanna protect kids.
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Oh, it’s gotta be fucking kids up. It’s not just that, but the violence that they sai. You see so much violence. I see way more violence now than I’ve ever seen in my whole life. Way more murders Yeah. And car accidents and animal attacks. And I see and Tom Segura and I have this horrible text thread. We text each other the worst shit we find every day.
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We’re trying to freak each other out, and we’ve been doing it for years. And so it’s just ai algorithm is fucked. Yeah.
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It’s just fucked. Do you there’s there’s certain sites and I never promote the site just because it’s like, it’s just too gruesome. But there’s one ai I go to where you can do everything. They’d be headings. And I would look at this stuff before meh. And I don’t know why. I I wouldn’t enjoy seeing it, but I would look at it, and it just gives you some kind of a weird, horrible feeling.
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But there’s certain things I can’t watch at this point. Like, I can’t watch people burning anymore. That’s a rough way. More. Yeah. Yeah.
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At one point, oh, burnings were all the ai. Ai can’t watch them anymore. You know, it’s all bad.
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That’s such a crazy thing to say. I can’t watch people burning anymore. I’m just I’m all burnt out.
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It bothered me. It was it got to a point where I could I can’t see beheadings anymore. Like, there was a point where I could watch them and just almost watch detached, but now I just it’s too Do
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you remember the journalist? It was ai Daniel Pearl? Yes. Yep. That’s right.
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Yeah. He was like the fur but the camera band panicked and kind of came off him a little bit, and and so they didn’t, it was ai they showed it, but that was the first one. Yeah. And then that guy they called Jihad John
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Mhmm.
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Who was, ai, because he was British. And they eventually caught him. I forget the other people he did, but it was, like, certain contractors and stuff that they would they would put in those orange jumpsuits Mhmm. To mimic Guantanamo, and they would just brew gruesome shit, man. Really gruesome shit. Gruesome shit. And it does fuck you up.
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A 100%.
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I don’t know what it does, but it fucks you up. Like, I don’t know how it messes me up, but it it definitely is not healthy.
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What makes you filled with anxiety and just knowing that that exists and then seeing it arya two very different things.
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Yeah. Knowing it exists and seeing it. And then I’m always like, well, I like watching I can still watch car accidents because it’s tangible. Ai, a car accident is a tangible thing. Like, if you if you’re not careful Right. And you drive like an asshole, this is what happens to you.
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Or if someone’s driving like an asshole, you’re not paying attention, you gotta be aware of everybody.
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Right. So I try not to text and drive anymore. I remember one time Sai was doing a gig, and I was in full sex addict mode, and fucking Sam Roberts, he was still an intern, at that point came with me because Kenny was busy. So Ram came to help me sell ai, and I remember he was, I think I did I let him Ai drove, but he was in the passenger sai, and I was just dirty talk texting the whole way home because I couldn’t text and drive because he was in the car.
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And I was like, I can’t get fucking I can’t be texting some woman, and kill the intern. That would just be a lot to just waiting to happen. So I it’s like the texting and driving thing I’ve kinda backed off of.
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Yeah. Well, that’s what Apple CarPlay is for.
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You know? No. You don’t do that? Fuck, dude. The idea of I sai I did that one time. I connected my phone to a BMW x six. My girlfriend at the time, my ex girlfriend came with me to the dealership, and the guy is telling me, oh, you should connect your phone. And I do, and my fucking phone my, my phone book, my contact list comes up.
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Right.
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And one of the girls, you know, I put where how I knew her, and it was ai a domination fantasy. Sai that came up her name, and domination Fantasy came up on that little window in the x six. And I’m like, I’ll never connect anything to my car again. There’s just just too much going on.
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Just change the name.
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I mean I mean, how much time do I have to go back and change all the names?
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Change the name to, like, personal trainer.
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But that’s another code word. It doesn’t
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have to be.
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I got busted one time talking dirty. I was texting dirty, and the girl the the escort’s name came up on my phone. And it was, like, one of those names that cannot be, like, a regular person.
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Right.
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So I ran my and my girlfriend was fucking screaming at me in the car. She’s like, who the fuck is that? And I’m like, it’s fucking Anthony. I’m like, I have a code word for Anthony in case I ever lose my phone. So I had to run up into the bathroom and just, like, my fingers were shaking and change it to Anthony, and Ai came in fifteen minutes later.
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I’m like, sai, it’s Anthony, but it was by ai, it was like, you blew it, Tim. He ai caught. He So I don’t connect anything. Even though I don’t I’m not, you know, fucking anybody else, I still don’t I don’t trust it. I don’t I don’t connect anything to my car.
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Well, your phone is listening anyway. Mine is for sure. Mine I I’ve come to grips with the fact that everything that I text is getting read.
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Probably. A 100%.
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Yep. No questions.
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Through the
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ads? Including, like, stuff that’s on signal. You know, Tucker told me that. He sai that the sig they found his, the government knew that he was gonna meet Putin because they read a signal. And he’s like, I didn’t even know that that was possible.
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Yeah. Is that the one that they got they got caught using in the defense chat Yeah. The signal?
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But that was because there was another guy in the signal chat that I think someone let in the signal chat on purpose.
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Was it on purpose? Or do you think it was one of those things where you fuck up and you just, like, you know, how you you’ll send something and a and a and a and a predictive text and, like, name comes up, and you just hit like, if I’m gonna text you and I accidentally j o and all of a sudden it Jodie Rosa.
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Jodie Rosa comes up. Yeah. Right. And I I just send him
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I’ve done that before, but this was a giant group of people that are in the defense department.
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How do you include a reporter in that? That’s a terrible mistake.
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That doesn’t make any sense.
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My ex publicist was bad mouthing me to somebody, and she actually sent it to me by mistake. I was ai, what what did she say? It wasn’t an overt it was one of those things where we weren’t working together anymore. And I was doing, Neil Brennan’s podcast. And, like, you have blocks where you you you talk about these things that blocked, and I and she sana something about, like, well, Norton’s on three blocks already.
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No shock. It was just it was some comment that was not complimentary. And, and then it was ai, oh, sorry. I meant that for him, and I just kinda left it there. I’m like, I got it. I I ai even like me. That’s why I left you.
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You don’t publicize hate your guts. It’s a fucking
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Publicist can be such a problem. And you’re so incompatible with people that are wild.
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Yes. Because all they wanna do is they have to paint it in a way that’s palatable to everybody. Like, I understand that. It’s a hard job, and you have some fucking asshole who’s out trying to get laid. I’m still
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like a guy like you or someone who says wild things, you know. It’s ai, that’s part of the fun of being you.
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Yes. But it also comes back, and it it it’s it’s here’s where it’s negative. I do on YouTube, I have the podcast sana I’m trying to do podcast ads. I’ve never, you know, I never bought ads on YouTube before. But I’m like, it doesn’t buy you views. It just puts it, like, where people will see it and if they like it, they click on it. Every one of my ads gets shot down.
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They they accuse me of election advertising in The United States. I I put up an ad, and they said this violates election advertising in the and I I didn’t even know how to respond to that. What was the ad? It it might have been a Ai had George Santos on, but it was it was just a funny podcast.
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That guy’s hilarious.
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Dude, he was fucking he told me how bad, Jerry Nadler smelled. Sai I asked him who had the worst breath in congress, and he wouldn’t answer, but he told me the worst body odor was Jerry Nadler. It was just funny. Funny. This is funny.
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He’s a character. He is. It’s just amazing that he was a congressman.
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I know. I I have a real affection. You know how it is when you meet somebody? It’s ai, they’re they’re always more human when you meet them, and it’s harder to not like somebody. Like, I don’t agree with Lauren Bobart, but I met her, and she couldn’t have been nicer. I’m like, I can’t dislike her. She was nice to me. You know?
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Right. So whenever you meet someone and I had him over and he was great. He was funny. Sai a sense of humor about himself, and he was shit talking and catty and Yeah. I was like, fuck. I love this guy.
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But they accuse me of election advertising. So now so many times I’ve tried to put ads after, and they continually say it’s either shocking content or election advertising. Oh, they’re just targeting you. They’re just targeting me. And sai how are you supposed to advertise comedy Yeah. With with some profanity in it if it’s shocking content?
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How was that election? I mean, he’s not even running for anything.
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And it wasn’t it wasn’t a political, rally podcast at all. It was just us talking about what happened. And we chatted politics, but I don’t I don’t push political views on people.
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They’ve got you labeled right wing, which is kinda funny.
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Is that it it really is.
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It is so funny.
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And the people don’t know what to like, the conservatives, it’s so funny. People come see me from Gutfeld. Because I do Gutfeld a lot, and and his people will come see me. And it’s just fun when I talk about my wife to watch the joy drain out of their faces. Ai, that
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was a trans woman.
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I know we had no idea. That’s not the type of Tucker we like, buddy. They get very, it’s a very weird place to be. Yeah. People who like my humor don’t necessarily like my personal life, and people who like my personal life don’t necessarily like my humor. It’s a weird I guess Right.
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If if nobody feels like you’re a 100% in in with them, they they don’t know what to make of you.
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Well, you were saying that about Oliver Anthony Anthony and that I wasn’t aware of that he was getting in trouble apparently right after Richmond North of Richmond came out that people were saying he wasn’t really conservative.
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Yeah. They they were giving him shit about saying, like, oh, he’s not who we thought he was. Meanwhile, he writes this great song and people love it. And and they they look at his arya, and they love his art. But because he feels a little bit differently, they a lot of people turned on him.
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And it was like, what what do you
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I wasn’t even aware of that at all. Yeah. I didn’t know what ai you know what the subject was?
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I don’t remember if they if he had said something after it or if they went back and found out things he had said prior that they felt like his politics didn’t line up. It’s almost like when they got mad about, a a fucking, Dylan Mulvaney. Like, needing to connect to the belief system of somebody who drinks the same beverage is just such fucking psychotic. Thank you. And again, I’ve drank piss.
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I don’t expect a whole lot of people to line up politically and rally behind me with fucking yellow flags. But I don’t like I just don’t care. I don’t give a fuck. I don’t care who who believes it or, like, I don’t care, like, what the I meh, I’m a I’m a fucking Sabbath fan.
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I don’t give a shit who those guys vote for.
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It’s it’s
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so So stupid. Inconsequential to me. Well, It’s just a
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a symptom of this bizarrely disconnected society where everybody’s so separated.
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It is. And you got it’s gotta be driving you crazy or or maybe you detach from it because you see things. I mean, I know you, so I’ll see them say, like, he’s just right where and I’m like, ai you guys really know Joe? It’s it’s ai it’s they don’t to see yourself painted in such a way has gotta be at one point frustrating, and then you have to just let it go.
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Right? Ai just
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Yeah. You gotta let it go. But when when I I mean, the most frustrating thing was seeing it on CNN. I was like, okay. You so this thing that I thought was the news forever. Right. Now, I know you’re not accurate at all because you’re you’re attacking meh, and you’re painting me in this very bizarre light because it’s convenient for you.
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There is a weird thing, and maybe this is again, because I’m in my fifties and I remember, like, thinking the news was real and accurate. Because I, you know, remember Walter Cronkite and all that shit. And it’s I it’s this constant sense of disappointment. Like, fuck. Like, they’re really not what I like, I’m still an idiot who believes in, like, the the adults and they’re gonna do the right thing. Yeah.
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And it just constantly is a confirmation that yeah. They are. They’re liars. They’re fucking
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biased liars. Yeah. And they’re paid to lie. They’re just propagandists. That that’s what the news, the mainstream news is. I mean, there’s real news now. Sure. You can get the real news from Glenn Greenwald. You can get the real news from Matt Taibbi. There’s a few people out there that’ll give you unbiased news.
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But it’s so funny, like, even them, you know, when they will highlight a very particular thing that maybe Trump did or someone did on the right and everybody attacks them. It’s ai, do do you want them to lie? Yeah. Just because you you sana your team to be infallible? Like, what do you what do you want?
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And Glenn Greenwald, I I had never heard of him. I I don’t really follow a lot of, like, what people are saying. I don’t watch debates, But Ai obviously heard about him when that video came out, and I saw, and I loved how he handled that. Yeah. He handled it great. Privacy invasions are so fucking disgusting. Right. They’re disgusting when they’re done to anybody. I don’t care how much you hate the guy’s guts.
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But I was I was like, I don’t even know who this guy is, but I like how he addressed that. Like, yeah, it’s my private life and tough shit. You know, I I kind of I ai that he handled that. I thought very, very, he just took it head on and
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Well, John Ronson talked about that in his book, you’ve been publicly shamed. Yes. You know, like if you’re not ashamed, then it doesn’t work. And that’s the reality of it. And Glenn handled it perfectly. He’s not ashamed.
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Yeah. Or we meh can’t let them see you’re ashamed. Because Ai, you know, Sai wake up and just dipped in it. I fucking it’s the first thing I think of. Good morning. Shame.
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But that’s you’re open about it, though. I mean, that’s the thing. It’s ai they can’t really attack you for something you’re attacking yourself for.
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Yes. And if you tell them like, I did something I like, I I it’s so it’s so I watched I my special premiered, and I went into YouTube and I watched it with people as they were watching and just commenting and talking. And this horrible feeling of shah, even when people are being nice, I can’t get away from how embarrassed I am.
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Like, it’s almost like when people see you doing something, you’re like, oh, Jimmy’s trying. Look at little Jimmy trying. And I was typing back and everything, but it was it’s so anti what feels good for me
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Mhmm.
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To do. Even when people are being nice, I find it horrifying and humiliating. Yeah. I don’t know where that comes from, but I kinda wish I didn’t have it.
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Well, I think everybody hates watching themselves. First of all, because when I watch a comic, I wanna watch a comic doing material either that I know and I wanna see again, you know, like if I’m watching Shane and he’s doing his bit on the Navy Seals, I wanna I wanna see it again.
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Or I want I just wanna see it, you know, I wanna I wanna just I’ve never seen it develop. I wanna see the thing. But when you’re doing it, you’re aware of everything. You’re aware of all the edits you’ve made. You’re aware of all the different ways you’ve done it.
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Yeah.
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Your way of when you’re trying to sell it a little too meh, and you’re not in the moment, you know, like Yeah. There’s all the grossness that you see that other people aren’t gonna see where you’re ai, ew.
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It’s fucking
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I hate watching myself.
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Dude, it was sai hard. It was so hard not to just attack myself in the chat. Like, all I wanted to do was watch it and go, there’s
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fucking booze,
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socks. Ai nice blinking 56 year old. But I didn’t do it. I’m like, don’t be a fucking I think it was Jay Okersen was doing something, and he did his special and he shot it at Skankfest one year. And I think Lewis took him out and that they were looking at the stage before. And I was one of those guys, like, you know, Jay is just like, ai, he’s a fucking oh, fuck.
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Sai think Lewis goes, you know, sometimes I know we’re like that, but you just gotta enjoy it. Like, once and I thought of that. I’m like, sometimes just enjoy things are going okay. Yeah. You’re happy with what you did. I love the special. I love the material.
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Don’t put yourself in a position where you’re ai, you fucking like, it doesn’t have to be that way.
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Just put it out there and walk away from it. Leave it alone. Let people decide what they ai. And if you don’t like it, you just work on the next one and make sure that you don’t make the same mistakes twice.
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Yeah. That’s
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it. That’s all you can do.
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But I speak a lot of time like, I I I wouldn’t I I don’t think I’ve ever loved anything as I put it out. This I like more, but the older you get, the better you get. So it’s, like, a little easier now than it was. Yeah. The first ai show I did, was 02/2004. And I I was out in LA, and I there was my buddy, Joey Silvera, who works for Evil Angel and would film a lot of greatest porn.
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Joey sai a fucking you’d recognize him if you saw him. He was in old movies. So I went to his house to watch my first tonight show with with another guy, this other guy, Brandon Iron. And, I went to the basement while they watched upstairs. I couldn’t watch it in front of other people.
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23:07
Oh, that’s hilarious.
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It was just and it’s not to be because I think I’m an artist. It’s just humiliating. It’s Right. Fucking it’s embarrassing. Yeah. Because you I feel like I’m like god. Are you gonna laugh? Like, I just I don’t want people to feel pressured to laugh
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Right.
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Because I’m around.
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It’s weird. It’s weird watching yourself.
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Some guys can do it though. Yeah. They’re psychos. They are fucking psychopaths. They’re probably not healthy. Oh ai god. Dude, the fuck do you know what mental illness you need to sit someone down next to you when you’re special playing?
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How about people that want you to watch their thing? And they wanna sit there with you. Like, hey, watch this. And you’re ai, I don’t I
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23:40
don’t wanna I don’t wanna ai this. It’s it’s it’s it puts you in a weird if I if I do an acting role, I don’t love acting, which is great because nobody loves when I do it. It works out nicely. But if I do something I like, I have to see it first, and I have to watch it and go, okay.
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23:54
I’m not embarrassed by this. I can go and watch it in the in a premiere. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I I I have to see it first
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to
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know if I’m gonna feel humiliated. The Irishman, I didn’t see first. Obviously, Scorsese is not gonna send me a fucking cut. And I didn’t know I made it until, like, literally the the night before. But that was different because I’m like, I don’t care how whatever. It was just it was a stand up performance.
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So
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Right. Right. Right.
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A little bit easier than Oh, yeah. Acting. It’s humiliating.
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Yeah. It’s gross. I don’t like any of it. I I went I’ve been in a couple movies. I’ve refused to go to the red carpet. I sneak in through the back. I’m like they were like, I want you to walk the red carpet. I’m like, nope.
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Is it because you don’t ai, because everyone would talk to you. I’m afraid no one’s gonna talk to me on the red carpet. Like, it’s it’s do you know how embarrassing it is when you you hear that person who walks you through in the front and, like, you’re you’re standing there ready for your moment and you hear them going, oh, Jim Norton.
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And then what you’ll hear a second and then she goes, Jim Norton. He’s comedian. I was like, oh, fuck. They have no idea who I am. It’s just humiliating.
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Sai I don’t like doing it, man.
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Ai I do don’t like the attention. I don’t like standing there while they take pictures. Just standing there, just looking around. Look at me, Joe. Look at me. Look at me.
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Look at me.
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Over here. Over here. Some people love it. Yeah. Actresses
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love it.
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They pose. They, like, give you their good side.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Give you a little bit of
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practice in the mirror. Ugh. But I almost understand that.
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I have more tolerance for actors who love it because even though they’re as big of the, you know, attention idiots as we are, they don’t get the constant feedback. Like, for them, it’s their night of feedback.
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Right. Right.
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Whereas with us, we’re ai I mean, I’ve been on a run for, like, four ai. Before I came here, actually, at the cell, I had four, like, shit nights in a row. Just, all the material I’m doing now is new, so it’s ai I’m trying this. And, you know, it just feels like you’re Frankenstein ai it. It’s not there yet.
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But I know I’m gonna have another night and another night. And it’s and and that comes and goes quickly. But actors, they have, like, one night to stand there and ai, and then they just get attacked in the fucking in the comments or in the reviews. So I’m a little more tolerant of them than comedians who because comedians who love that, it’s ai, how much fucking attention do you need, dude? Yeah. Yeah.
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You constantly get feedback.
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Yeah. You should be shying away from feedback. Too much feedback is bad for you.
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Ai, I
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really believe vatsal
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100%. And I stopped I I stopped reading Twitter comments. Occasionally, I’ll do it now. And it wasn’t just to say I wasn’t reading them. It was because even positive feedback, I call I’m a you needy fuck. How much how much, you know, how many taps on the shoulder do you need?
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How many, like, good job, Jim, or you suck, Jim. Like, how much interaction from people do you need? It’s not normal. It’s not healthy.
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I stopped reading almost everything, even stuff that’s not meh, and I stopped a couple weeks ago. I just stopped going on social media. I will occasionally if someone sends me something funny, I’ll watch it, but then I get off my phone right away. Ai I just and I think on my new phone number that I’m gonna get, I’m not gonna have any social media.
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I’m just gonna keep my old phone number and only use that for social media. I just don’t think it’s good for you.
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It’s not. And although there’s times, like, my algorithm I I’m I’m obsessed with I think we talked about a lot of just Japanese Hornets and a lot of MMA. Like, my algorithm is healthier now than it would be. There’s still a few things that will pop up, that, you know, show what I’ve been looking at.
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Like, if my wife is next to me, she’ll see what I’m looking at. I’m like, meh, no. It’s just, you know, you know how it is. Yeah. You go down the rabbit hole, you probably shouldn’t go down. But it’s not as unhealthy as it would have been at one point.
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Like, a lot of it is just Meh stuff and and and animals and nice shit.
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Yeah. I get a lot of that. A lot of it is people getting knocked out.
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You like the knocked out? I I like watching jujitsu tips because then I’ll bring them in and ask ask the guy to show me, like, like, how do you is it possible to do this? And he’ll kinda show meh, and I’ll just forget it, but it’s it’s fun.
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Yeah. I’ve got a lot of that too. But it’s just I just think it’s a giant waste of time. And it’s also your brain needs time to just think, and you need time to just be in your own head and think about your own thoughts and ai to formulate them properly. Really, like, get an under like, why do I think this way? Ai what is what is it about this that is that I’ve decided is correct?
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Right.
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And roll it around. And when you’re constantly looking at other people’s thoughts, I just don’t think it gives you much time for that.
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That’s exactly it. Why do I think what I think? Yeah. Like, Hitchens did a great speech. He was in Toronto about free speech. And one of the things he was talking about is when somebody says something that you don’t agree with. I think the example he gave was Holocaust denial.
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He goes, you have to protect that person’s speech because if nothing else, it makes you examine, okay. Well, how do I know what I know? Yes. How do I know other than someone told me? Like, you have to kind of examine how you come to your own conclusions. And I do that a lot.
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Like, in the shower, I’ll just kinda stand there. It’s really like, we all have a weird showering method. I just kinda stand there with my hands like this. It’s bizarre. It’s, like, ai like. And I just stand there and I think or I go through arguments or I go through conversations or debates.
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And that’s the one time I really get to to think during the day where I don’t meh anything else interfere. But being off social media is probably a lot healthier. Just again, it’s other people’s thoughts. Who care I don’t care what people think. I don’t know why I it.
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Well, I care what people think, but I don’t care enough to have that intervene and invade my thoughts all day long. I mean, I’m fascinated by people, but I like to talk to them for real for real ai this. Yeah. This is ai, you know, because Ai think that’s also having a podcast and having what I think is the best way to communicate with people and to be able to be so lucky to be able to do it all the time.
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I think I meh plenty of other people’s input. Right.
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And you get the the real opinions and you get to you sense up in a room with a person. Again, it’s it’s it’s harder to dislike or to or to caricature somebody when you’ve met them and when you’ve actually sat with them. It’s ai, no. I I know this person. I kinda felt their energy, and it’s like, ai. They’re just a regular person. It’s easy when you look at somebody to hate their guts.
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Yeah. And I bashed a few people. It was always so embarrassing. We would do Jocktober. And, you know, O ai A never went into other people’s studios, but I would.
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And I’d be on the road, and it was the fucking I was in Boston with Kenny one time. He’s like, they’re having you in, but you Jocktober’d them. And I was like, oh. Oh. Sai I went in, and, you know, you you you just go there ai, yeah. You really, and I’m like, yeah, man.
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It was just something we do. But you have you face it and you realize, yeah, they’re nice guys. It was just Yeah. It’s a dumb radio show. I had fun.
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And I’ve actually become friendly with a couple of guys who we used to attack, but you only get that through meeting somebody and actually talking to them more than than one.
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The the worst is when you meet someone and you have a conversation with them and you’re cool. You think, oh, we’re good. And then they’ll go and talk shit about you somewhere else and completely mischaracterize you.
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Have you had that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I’ve had that.
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Yeah. That’s embarrassing. It’s sad. It feels bad. Yeah. Well, it’s just like, okay. Sad.
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It feels bad.
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Yeah. Well, it’s just like, okay. Well, I’ll never talk to you again ai I know that you do this now.
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It’s crazy.
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Yeah. And but it’s also it’s ai, why are you doing that? Generally, it’s when I had a conversation with them and it didn’t go well for them. Right. So they’ll then they just harbor that thing and then they just fucking stew it in their head and then they just mischaracterize you and try to twist you around because they’re trying to win this argument they already lost.
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Yes.
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You know, it’s ai, you know, when you get in an argument, you you didn’t have anything to say and then you’re in the ai, oh, I should’ve said this. Uh-huh. Ai. I should’ve said that. Yeah. They’re just doing that, and they’re just going and doing that on another podcast. Yes. Re relitigating Yeah.
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What the jury has already come in at you. Yes. And it’s human instinct to do. I also think sometimes people do it, and they don’t think you’re gonna see it. Like, especially when you’re you’re you know, you have such a high level of, like, recognition that if somebody they’re ai, like, he’ll never see this, and I can just and then you see it, and they’re probably, like, ugh.
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Yeah. I ai have said that. But I’ve read things that hurt my feelings. I’m like, why would you say that? Like Yeah. I was nice to you.
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I don’t know. It’s weird. It’s like, you know, humans are so strange. We’re so strange in our weird little quirks and the way we communicate with each other and what is truth, what’s real, who are you, you know, who are you you’re you’re different every day. Yeah. You’re you’re different depending on how your day went. You know, your reaction to something is I remember one time this guy wasn’t paying attention.
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Traffic was stopped, and he rear ended meh. And he didn’t have a license. He’s from Meh, but I had been doing yoga, like, every day. And I was like, you okay? And he’s like, yeah. I’m okay. I’m like, alright, man. And I go, why don’t you have a license?
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He’s like, I can’t get a license. I Ai go, well, so why are you driving? He’s like, I gotta work. I go, alright. I get it.
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I wasn’t mad at him. But it was because I was doing yoga, like, every we’re doing this hot yoga challenge, Ari and Tom and Bert and I.
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I remember
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that. We’re doing it, like I was doing yoga, like, every day. So I was so calm. I was like, okay. Well, take care of yourself. I’m gonna get out of here. Because his car was fucked. My car was fucked, but it was it was drivable.
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Yeah.
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It was a Porsche. Like, it was a really nice car.
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Yeah.
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And he had, like, this fucking shitty Honda, and he but, you know, the way he broke, like, when you break your your front end dives down.
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Mhmm.
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And so he kinda got under my car and lifted my car up a little bit and caved in my back bumper a little bit, but they just replaced the bar and the engine wasn’t fucked, and my exhaust was dented a little bit. His car was fucked. He couldn’t drive. So he gotta be there when the cops came, and then, you know, he couldn’t drive away.
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Right. And
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I was like, I don’t know what’s Ai gonna get out of here.
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Oh, you just left. Yeah.
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I was like, he doesn’t have any money. Like, I’ve I’m gonna pay for this.
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Yes.
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And I’m like, this is gonna hurt me. I have the money to fix it. So alright. Take care, man. Glad you’re okay.
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Being zen like that, like, because it reminds me of I was leaving the link the Holland Tunnel with Karen Feeham. We were doing a gig in Jersey. That was bumper to bumper. And I came, you know, it sai there was, like, that merge where you think you’re never gonna get out of it, and a guy stopped.
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He goes, you hit my car. And I’m ai, I know I didn’t hit this car, but he made us, it was bumper to bumper. I’m like, let’s just talk on the other side of the tunnel. Like, let’s get out of this fuck because I was gonna be late for the gig. And he goes, no. We’re gonna pull over and wait for the police. Sai I’m like, oh, this piece of shit is trying to shake me down. Yeah.
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So we wound up, one of those awful traffic women was there. You know, the the the people that just, they work for the city and they dress like cops, but they’re not cops. Right. But if you assault one of them, it’s ai a big deal. So we pulled over and and I said, is it okay if we just trade licenses?
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And she went, meh, just trade licenses, which I think kind of shamed him into, like, letting us move on. Otherwise, he was gonna have me fucking held up there or or pay him on that.
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So you didn’t hit
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his car at all? Karen said I didn’t. It was a merge. And if I did, it was a one mile an hour bump, but there was no mark on his car at all. I think the whole thing was a ram. Could we trade the ai? And I never heard from the guy. Have you
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seen that thing where people get in front of people’s cars and slam on the brakes?
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It’s I’ve seen it. Oh. And it I mean, it it it’s terrible. And the best of what you have a dash ram.
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Oh, yeah.
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And then you see them that they recognize the dash ram, and then they just scurry back into their cars.
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But this or this lady’s car, but she had a dash ram the entire time.
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Yes.
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And she’s on the phone. Oh, my god. These people just backed up into meh. And then they got out of the arya, and they’re ai, what did you do? What did you do? And then they saw the dash ram, like, oh, fuck.
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36:21
Yeah. I’ve seen that. I don’t know if that’s what I’m referring to where where they they straight back into the car and take off. Yep. Yep. When I saw like, I’m so cynical. Like, people in Philly you got a lot of people in Philly. Like, if a bus hits something, there’s, like, locals that will just run up and just lay next to the bus like they were in the fucking accident, which is I get it.
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36:39
You know what I mean? But they forget that there’s cameras everywhere, and they could just see you walking out. But this India Air Air India plane crash, I would my first thought was that this guy, they said, survived. I’m like, oh, he’s bullshitting. He didn’t.
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Right.
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36:49
He’s faking it.
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No. He survived.
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But he did ai. Yeah. Because he said his brother was on the plane or something.
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36:55
Eleven a. Speak eleven a.
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And ai the way, to all the people who are gonna now look for eleven a, stop. Yeah. Stop. If if anything else, that’s the last thing you should do.
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Usually, it’s the back where you’re best off.
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Yeah. I wonder if the plane broke open and he just got there’s a woman who who was a I think she was a teenager when it happened. It sai called the woman who the girl who fell from the ai, and she had apparently they were, like, two miles up and her the plane blew up whatever, and it came apart and she fell two ai.
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Somehow ai. The ship
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had ai. Right? Didn’t she hit
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go through the roof of a barn or something like that? Fell into the, what do they call the, the fucking the the Brazil Rain Forest.
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Oh, the Amazon? Brazil?
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She fell into the Amazon, was gone for ten days. Woah. Apparently, again, unless Ai was bullshit, they said she found an old boat with gas and she had to pour that ai of her wounds to kill the maggots. Woah. And then she finally did get out and get rescued. And,
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look at this. Juliana 17 year old girl miraculously ai falling 10,000 feet from a plane then surviving eleven days. Isn’t 10,000 feet? Isn’t that two miles? No. What’s a mile?
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Yeah. It’s about two miles.
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Two miles? Yeah. Jesus Christ. You imagine falling two miles from a plane? Sai survived eleven days alone in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest. After the plane, she was on she was struck by lightning.
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Jesus, I didn’t read that part.
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The plane was struck by lightning and disintegrated in the air. Still strapped to her seat, fell from the ai, and survived. Holy shah.
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What did she hit, though? Did she hit ai a mountain in slot? Like, how do you the impact, though, I don’t know how you survive that impact.
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Oh ai god. Shah had a broken collarbone, a torn knee ligament. That’s it. Ai the crash, she spent eleven days alone in the jungle before being rescued. She found a lumberjack camp. Wow. Yeah. It’s crazy. Wow. She became a a respected scientist specializing in mammalogy and focusing on bats.
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Wouldn’t it be funny if she was the lady who released COVID?
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Because her memory is no good anymore after the plane crash? Ai. Drink this.
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Speak yeah. She ai on bats, and she got a job in Wuhan. She had no idea.
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She had no idea. She’s ai, be free. Get some guy selling fish on the corner, and he went meh fucked some money. Oh. But there was another one too. There was a a flight attendant, and again, who I think was trapped. The front of the plane fell, and I think that she was almost from 30,000 feet.
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And if I remember correctly, it hit a mountain and like, it was almost like she hit it on the right angle and slid. Oh. There it is. Yeah.
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Arya ai without a parachute in history. 33,000 foot plunge after a plane explosion in ’72. She was the only ai. Crashed into the mountains of Czechoslovakia after sai suspected bomb detonated. Cheese. You
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felt meh parachute didn’t open sana she landed on a pile of ants, fire ants, and the fire ants kept her alive.
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Right. Right. Shocked meh body and Yeah. Somehow or another, the fire ants the the the shock of the sting of fire ants kept her alive.
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Ai? Did it slow her heart down or something or stop it from No. What? Meh mentioned the odds of falling into a fire ant tyler?
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It’s usually a bad thing to land an amount of fire ants at 80 miles an hour, but not if you’re Joan Murphy. Oh, Joan Murray. 14,000 feet right into a fucking pile. Fifty percent chance of surviving a fall of 48 feet.
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Yeah.
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Which is a four story building. Mortality rate rushes all the way up to 90 when you fall 84 feet, a distance of a seven story building. So if you’re falling from a whopping four 14,500 feet, just over two and a half miles, Safely bet you’re almost definitely not going to get out alive.
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One woman did. So she fell. A backup parachute opened at 700 feet, quickly deflated. She continued to plummet towards the ground at 80 miles an hour. She survived.
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There it goes. She ai. Thanks to the fact that she landed directly on a mound of fire ants. Doctors believe the intense shock of being stung over 200 times by the ants released a surge of adrenaline that kept her heart beating.
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Woah. Ai the way, does that prove to you how little I know about the human body? My instincts said that, oh, your heart slows down. Like, I felt like, oh, maybe it would slow your heart down when they bit you and it does just the opposite. I I felt like maybe maybe it slows your beat down like being frozen.
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I bet that’s just a wild guess as to why it kept her alive because if she was putty, you know, there’s no way it would have kept her alive.
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Yeah. Maybe maybe it stopped her heart from or maybe they got to it right after too. Yeah. Who knows? You watch that guy who fucking lets things bite him in the woods, coyote something. You know, we talk about the fire pit ant. He’s a psychopath, but his stuff is very entertaining. But I think he said the bullet ant. The bullet ant or the Japanese hornet was was the the worst.
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The bullet
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ant is supposed to be the worst. The bullet ant is supposed to be, like, twenty four hours of intense pain. Yeah. My friend Speak got bit by one of those. On purpose or no? No. He was in, the Amazon. He got bit on his foot.
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And was it as bad as he said?
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He said for hours, it was just impossible. The pain was just impossible.
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Doesn’t And
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then it’s slowly dissipated to, like, kind of manageable.
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Is that the one that they put in the gloves? Yeah. You see that one that the the the tribe where they do that and their hands are, like, blackened by bites?
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Steve O do that? Yep.
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Did he? Yeah. He did that. Was.
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Yeah. Ai put the gloves on. Ai
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long did he last?
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Well, once you get bit, it’s a twenty four hour experience.
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Yeah. I’m very squeamish. Insects, it’s funny. I’ve never gotten over this insect. I think I saw a kid. There was a brother and sister when I was a kid. We were all the same age. I think she was a year older than me and him were. And they were such a such a bizarre little friendship because they used to pee their pants, and I would ask them to sit on my face with their pants.
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It was a really bizarre yeah. I ai. It was a very it’s a lovely childhood in good old Edison good old Edison, New Jersey. But I saw him get stung by yellow jackets. We and What was that?
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That’s sai That’s
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the worst thing? Executioner wasp. Oh. But Coyote Peterson said it was worse than a bullet ant.
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Oh ai god.
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Watching a guy run with bees on his arms and screaming. I think that scarred me for the rest of my life with insect. We used to break up bees nest, and I’ll never forget the sight of this kid running with just three yellow jackets on his arya. And I just that stuck with me for, I guess, forty nine years now, fifty years. It bothers me. I just can’t they weird.
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Insects have a very weird effect on people. Oh, yeah. Like, to be so skeeved out by something. It’s like rats instead of like, small bunnies don’t bother you, but rats do. Maybe it’s in the DNA or something where it’s supposed to bother you.
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I think so for sure. I think that’s what aphidiophobia and arachnophobia comes from. You know, Sai bet someone in your DNA, someone down the line was either killed by a spider or, like, really badly hurt by a spider, and it’s just in your DNA to be absolutely terrified when you see a spider.
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What’s a what’s a, Phidiophobia is snakes. Oh. Some people just they have it so bad. Like, they see snakes and they just fucking start panic and they go they have a panic attack and they just can’t handle it. Where the other people, ai, I’m scared of snakes for sure. Yeah. But but I can look at them, you know, they don’t freak me out.
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Can you hold them? Yeah. Yeah. I
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can hold them, but I, you know, obviously, I don’t wanna be around them. They’re they’re fucking serpents. They’re literally in the Bible.
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Yeah. Yeah. The Bible does frown the speak sana the bryden ram in the fucking Bible.
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Ai Satan. Satan comes in the form of a certain.
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A certain. Yeah. I I can hold one if I know it’s not gonna I got again, I have a a healthy fear. Like, if it’s like Yeah. If if it’s if I know it’s a boa constrictor, like that guy in the Greenwich Village who walks around the giant yellow one, which kinda creeps because if it was to really attack someone, I I mean, I guess you’d have to kill it.
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There’s nothing you can do. Yeah. Just a large bowel constrictor.
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There’s not much you can do once it’s around your neck. You need help. You know, they’re very strong. I mean, they they crush deer and swallow them whole.
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They do.
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Yeah. I mean, you gotta you gotta be a real special kind of fucking idiot to have one of those things as a meh. Because you just have a monster as a pet as long as you feed that monster. But if you leave a baby in a room with a python, you come back a half an hour later, you’re gonna have a fat python and
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no baby. Absolutely. And a nice quiet night sleep. They don’t give a fuck.
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They’re just, like, they’re that’s what they’re there for. Nature has designed them to kill everything they can.
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I can’t Annie Letterman has a lot of snakes. Like, she has them as pets and her her fiance has they have
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a ram.
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A room full of fucking snakes. And I don’t get it. I’m like, they’re not warm. Yeah. They don’t have any recognition of you.
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Interesting, I guess.
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I guess. But I have we have a puppy, and I’ve never owned a dog before. And it’s, like, it’s nice to have I don’t like taking care of anything. I fucking I don’t have that instinct in me. I just don’t like it. But this dog kind of, I get why people like having a dog. Ai, I get it.
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Oh, I love dogs. If if ai wife only lets me have one, I have one dog. But if it was up to meh, at one point in time, I had five dogs.
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You did? Yeah. Does he shit in the house? No. Mine does a lot. I mean,
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he does if he eats things that are bad. He gets ai, and he gets diarrhea at least a couple ai a year.
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Oh, he does?
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Yeah. He’s a dumbass. He’s a golden retriever. He’s not that smart. Like, he ate a turtle recently, and he got horrible diarrhea shah all over the place. He got little pieces of shell stuck in his stomach. He had to go to the hospital.
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Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was a nightmare. And he also ate gravel. At one point, he ate five pounds of gravel because someone accidentally, dropped some chicken food on the gravel, and he just assumed that the gravel was food, so he ate all the gravel.
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It is crazy how nothing registers halfway through the gravel pile of the sea. He’s not just a dumbass. It doesn’t taste like chicken.
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He’s a dumbass, but I fucking love dogs, man. Ai I wish I I Ai could have I I can’t go to a pound. I I can’t go. If I just Can you bring them
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all home?
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I’ll bring them all home. I just, like, I’ll take them all. If I had a giant piece of land, Ai probably just have all every dog I could never get.
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We went we went to, North Shore Animal Rescue and, actually, Beth Stern helped me. I don’t know her well. I met her through Whitney, and Ai met her what and but she’s, like, is huge there and, like, has great connections and helped us get a very nice little, what is it? A fucking Yorkie. We we we’re so stupid. We thought it was a, I thought it was a Cavapoo.
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I don’t know what the fucking kind of
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dog is. Cavapoo?
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It’s like it’s like one of those things where it’s like a bryden dog. It’s it’s a cavalier and a poodle, I think. But it’s hypoallergenic. Ai can’t have dog ai. Oh, look at that. I mean, come on. Is that not phenomenal?
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Come on. Look at little bow. That used to be a wolf. That’s how fucking creepy people are. They turned a wolf into that thing.
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That little adorable no shedding thing. You look good, that little face. Yeah. He’s very cute, but that’s what we thought we were getting. I didn’t know because a Yorkie looks a lot like that when it’s young. I mean, it was, like, this big when we took it home. But, yeah, it’s I I love it. My dog photographs like ai, though. I never put up pictures of my dog.
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He’s a sweetheart, but he looks like a fucking wig and a hamper. Just sucks. I can’t humiliate an ugly fucking dog I have in in pictures. But in person, he said, great. But I just I never post pictures. Just Put a filter on him. Nothing’s gonna help. He’s just kinda sitting there.
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It looks like he’s fucking, like, ai, like, some homeless guy’s dog. But I do, I love having him, but the shitting in the house is very difficult. Oh. Oh, yeah. I think that’s when I first got him. Aw.
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Well, you
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see, he looks a little like a Cavapoo. That’s adorable dog.
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Then he was. But as he’s gotten older and his hair’s gotten longer He’s got shitty looking? In person, no. But Ai and and I he photographs fucking terribly.
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Let me see a picture. Let me see a bad picture of your dog.
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Let me see if I have I Ai put up if on my Instagram, I think I put up a video recently and the screen ram. I tried to find the cutest screen grab, and I just couldn’t. So let me see here.
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Maybe it’s just you. Maybe if I saw him, I think he’s adorable.
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I can guarantee you’re gonna go, like, he might be great in person. It’s ai when somebody but I wouldn’t I would never, I would never classify this as a cute dog. Hold on. Ai. I’m it’s not opening because of,
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but I’ll find it. Oh, there’s no cell phone signal in here.
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Is that on purpose?
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No. It’s just the walls are thick.
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Do you guys have Sai Fi or no? Yeah. I can’t find it.
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Forget it. Ai. It’s okay. I get it. Oh, wait. Is that it?
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That’s that’s actually not that bad.
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That’s cute.
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But there was one I put on. That’s actually a very nice Ai a little blue bow. Yeah. We’ve trucked in. Somebody in the house really mowed him up. That wasn’t my fucking
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That’s a cute little dog. Yeah. Alright.
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That’s a nice picture. But typically photographs very poorly. Mhmm. But I we can’t he won’t stop shitting in the house. Like, I can’t,
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Well, you live in an apartment?
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I live in an apartment.
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That’s part of the problem.
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We put him on the terrace, and she’ll go out there with him and and she walks him. I won’t walk him. It’s ai, it’s your dog. I don’t wanna fuck him. I don’t you know what I mean? Like, I’m not again, I don’t have that instinct. I’m happy you have him and you love him, but, he just won’t stop shitting in the house. Sai don’t know what to do.
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I’m getting to a point where, like, I I’d like, this is why I didn’t want a fucking dog. Yeah. I can’t handle dog shit in my house.
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It’s kinda gross. Yeah. Yeah. It’s pretty gross.
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I heard that, Ai I’m debating, do I pay for a trainer? Do I pay for someone to come in and just
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They might not be able to. It might be one of them broken little fucking tiny dogs. You just can’t stop shitting in your house. I don’t know though.
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I’ve never had,
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like, one of those kind of dogs.
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But in New York, it helps. Like, you a small little, first of all, I’m not qualified to own a big one. I don’t know how, like, people own, like, Mastiffs and I in New York In New
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York City, that’s crazy.
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You can’t. And you can’t get insurance for them. That’s what made meh, like, if you have a Doberman or a Rottweiler or a Pitt, you you can’t get insurance, homeowners insurance. So if somebody gets bit, you’re fucked.
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Oh, yeah.
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And that’s what scared me about those dogs. German Shepherd.
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Yeah. Especially German Shepherds. Well, also, like, those dogs need a lot of exercise. They need a lot of activity or they get anxious Yeah. And they get kinda crazy because they’re not supposed to be penned in like that. They’re working dogs. They’re supposed to be out there running around.
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And if you don’t run them, if you don’t exercise them every day, they they get ai people do when they don’t exercise every day. They get kooky.
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Yeah. I became a little obsessed with they usually those Caucasian shepherds.
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Oh.
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Like, I I wanna pet one of those things or those,
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that’s a big giant fucking thing.
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Comes up it goes like 200 pounds. Yeah. It’s fucking hairy. It’s a disaster. Yeah. It’s a werewolf. It’s a monster. Yeah. But something like that, I would love to, you know, spend a moment with or go someplace and and play with it, but I just, you know yeah.
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I mean Look at that thing. Jeez.
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Slobbering on your
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fucking sofa. 220 pounds. Yeah. Jeez. Shitting. Well, they use those things to keep wolves away from sheep.
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Yeah. Yeah. And Russian prisons, I think. The I’ve seen footage of Russian prisons, like, where they have them around the perimeter. Oh. In there’s a fence in between, like, freedom and the jail, and they kinda keep them in there.
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I wonder what their temperament is like.
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They’re aggressive. That’s what I’ve heard. They’re very aggressive.
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People. Strong, powerful, alert, quick, dominant, calm. What?
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Yeah. They just somebody just threw adjectives up there.
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How they throw calm in there? Steady, strong, independent, faithful, self assured, calm. That’s weird.
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The do you ever see those do what are they called? Dogo or or Ai ram a those are they look like giant pit bulls. They’re gorgeous dogs. But again, they’re
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Hyper aggressive.
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They are aggressive. Right?
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Great guard dogs, hyper aggressive. They will fuck you up.
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And they I think
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those were the dogs that Ving Rhames had when someone he killed, like, someone working at his house. Yeah.
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When he was Ving Rhames or before.
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Yeah. Oh. Ving I’m pretty sure it was Ving Rhames. I think something happened and someone maybe they were there where there’s not supposed to be there or something happened. And someone I think it was someone working for him got killed by his dog.
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Was he is is it him or Charles Dutton who did time in jail for murder? I think it was murder. I don’t wanna get sued. Ai I think it was Charles Dutton or him that actually before they were actors went to jail. Ai just don’t remember if it was Ving Ram or Charles Dutton. I don’t know. I don’t know. We as one of those guys that had, like, a really interesting back story.
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If that happened
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Go find out with Ving Rhames’ dog first, then we’ll Google did Charles Dutton murder somebody. I think I think it might have been Dutton. I think you’re right.
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This is the funny thing to Google.
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Yeah. Warner said that that he did not die from the in the Ving Rhames case, he did not die from dog bites. They were waiting for a toxicology. Oh, did
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he maybe he had a stroke and then the dog bit him. Like, sometimes that happens. Like, if someone has, like, a seizure, dogs will bite them. Like, dogs don’t know what the fuck is
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going on.
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They freak out and they bite them. When animals attack humans or other animals, victims usually end up with bites around the head and neck. He had none. This leads us to believe he went down for some other medical reason. Oh, that makes sense. So the bites were around his arms and his legs.
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Sai, yeah, the dog ai. Bullmastiffs. English bulldog and three bullmastiffs.
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200 pounds.
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Jeez. 200 pounds.
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You wonder if they’re trying to wake him up or trying to pull him somewhere or if they were attacking like, because you’re right. Ai they don’t bite the face, what’s the purpose of what would
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they do? I bet
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it wasn’t. I bet I bet that’s
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what it was. Sometimes that does happen when dogs will freak out if someone has a seizure. Right. They don’t know what the hell’s going on. They, like, bite the person.
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Yeah. Like, what’s he doing?
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They’re freaking out. You know, probably not even bite him to try to hurt him. Just try to stop whatever’s happening because it’s freaking him out.
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Well, there was speculation after, Siegfried and Roy when when Roy got dragged off. Ai don’t know what’s true or not. Did did the thing bite his head, or was it actually trying to save him? Away. Yeah. I don’t know what Yeah.
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There was, like, a lady that had a crazy hat or something like ai, and the tiger was kinda weirded out by this lady’s hat.
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Is that what it was?
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That’s what I meh, but I Ai just remember thinking, duh. Like, the tiger just did what tigers do.
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Yeah.
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Just decided I don’t like this anymore.
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Are they both dead?
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Ai you.
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I don’t know. I know Roy Horn died, I think. Yeah.
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I just saw they’re making a Netflix series about or Apple TV series about them. Eight episode series. Andrew Garfield and someone else are playing
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54:31
Did you ever see the HBO, thing on, Liberace?
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54:36
Is is that where with, Tom Pompa, was it?
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Opera. Well, it was Matt Damon and, what the fuck is his name?
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54:44
Who played Scott Thorson?
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The guy Greed is Good. You know, that guy.
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Michael Douglas?
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Michael Douglas. Yeah. Michael Douglas played Liberace, I believe. Right? Didn’t
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he? Did he? Yeah. I didn’t remember that.
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Yeah. It was Michael Douglas and Matt Damon.
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Oh, he played Scott Thorsen and Matt Damon? Yes.
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Okay. He played the guy who got plastic surgery to look like Liberace.
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He’s a classic.
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What? A psycho.
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Yeah. I
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interviewed a boyfriend, get plastic surgery to look like him. I wanna fuck me.
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I know. That’s the last person I would wanna look like. I go to a surgeon and say anything but this.
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Isn’t that such a psychotic thing to wanna fuck you? Oh ai god. That’s so crazy. I want you to look like me. Get your chin done to look like me.
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Is that a power thing or is it a fucking it’s a very bizarre Yeah. Pure narcissism or just crazy?
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Yeah. All the above. Power for sure. Power over that guy. Right? He probably had the ultimate power in that relationship. Yeah. Because he’s Liberace. He’s this enormous superstar, and this ai his bitch. You know, like, I want you to get a different chin.
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You’re gonna look like me.
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He got a crazy chin.
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Yeah. He did. He looks Liberace. Yeah. He looks very silly.
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It was a fun fucking film, though.
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Yeah. Top it up. Vatsal plug. Look
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at that.
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Rob Lowe. Wow.
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It’s a really Joey Diaz used to have a great bit about it.
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About the about the About
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the HBO thing. Yeah. I mean, Liberace was a fucking weird case. Right? Because he had to pretend that he was straight forever.
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Yeah.
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And it’s so like, today, he wouldn’t have to. No. Right? He could just be Liberace. But back then, he had do you ever see the sana? There he is. Look at that. Super straight. Look at the rings. You do you ever see the song when Liberace winks at me? No.
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So this is a song that played on television in, like, the nineteen fifties when, you know, the world was in innocent. And there’s a woman who is, like, swooning when Liberace would wink at her. And then sai they played this it’s Liberace playing the piano and, like, looking at the girl and winking.
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And then ai made, like, a twinkle in his eye when it went you let’s let’s play it because it’s it’s so bad. Here it is. Here it is. We can put the headphones on. You gotta see this. What is it? 53? Is that what it said? 55. So she’s watching him on TV, and she sings.
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Watch this.
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Oh, god. Freedom of the fan club. I’m dropping you with slime. Wow. Wow. First of all, it looks like Jim Florentine. It really creeps me out.
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I wonder when he winks here
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at the piano key. A little tinkle. Clink. Clink. That’s so weird.
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What a weird time it was back then.
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Dude, there’s a video of him too on Instagram where the it was it was in the sixties when he was trying to get with the, he was trying to, like, you know, be with the movement meh. Be cool, man. And it was, like, something about something groovy, and it’s just him on a piano with all of these, like, like, you know, 20 year olds just trying so hard to get the kids.
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Oh, really? Oh, it’s sai It’s in the sixties?
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It’s I think it’s in the in the it looks like it’s, like, 1967. ai yeah.
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Is that it?
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Oh. Oh, boy. He’s playing.
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Groovy. Look at these guys with their pants. God. Look at their pants. Yeah.
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The piano’s got flowers on it.
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God. People really lost their fucking minds in
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the sixties, didn’t they? Yeah. This is very drug inspired.
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Imagine putting those pants on.
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Where’s where’s he? He does come out. You wait. I’m not sure where he does. Oh, there he is. Oh, there he is. At least he’s dressed for the occasion. Look at him. He’s getting thumbs up. You’re looking wild. Look at his fucking vest. Look at him.
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God, that’s so weird.
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Oh, what you’re shaking? I gotta try that
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Liberace’s turning on. Isn’t that great? God. That’s so weird. And, like, the piano’s moving. And he
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had to hold two girls. Like, yeah. I’m just here to get some puss. He’s turning on. Yeah.
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This is, like, the acid days.
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But it’s so crazy that, like, this was actually meh not meant to be ai and ironic, but it was meant to be like, hey, he’s this cool guy getting with the scene.
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He’s getting with the scene, man. And he’s out there with his piano and all these weird people with flowers on their pants.
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And the dancing the dance routines is just not the straightest.
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Look at him go. But the vest the vest is hilarious.
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Yeah.
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It’s like plastic. Yeah. It’s like this fucking raincoat that they turn into a vest. And a long, like, orange, like, almost ai Shakespeare sleeve type of shirt. Sai strange. God. People were so weird. But you gotta think, like, in the nineteen sixties, television had only been around for, like, twenty years. Yeah. That’s what’s weird.
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This is really weird if you really stop and think about it. It was so new. No one it’s kind of like the Internet. Right? Like, the Internet was the Internet is older today than television was then. Yeah. Yeah. You’re right. It’s 30 years old now. Yeah. Yeah. The Internet basically came around.
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I got on the Internet for the first time in ’94. I got on America online. You’ve got mail. Yes. And I remember this is crazy. I couldn’t believe it.
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It hooked up to my phone. It was a +1 44 connection.
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Yeah. 14. Yeah.
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Slow as shah. And Sai got 56 I thought it was a boss. Like, look at meh. 56 You know? And I remember thinking this is crazy. Like, this never existed before. So that was thirty years ago, thirty one years ago. This was just twenty years after TV really. Like, when did TV really start happening?
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In the I wanna say in the fifties. Yeah. I don’t think it was in the nineteen forties. I mean, it was in the fifties.
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What was the first television?
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Hitler broadcast it. I I was on it, but that must have been in the forties. There there was because in the movie Contact where they show you that Hitler broadcast, which they say was, like, one of the first
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He broadcasted on the radio or television?
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No. It was a TV.
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I think to do a lot of World War two stuff in the movie theaters. You’d go to the movie theater and you meh the news. The ai front, and they show you the news. They show you, like, propaganda footage of the news. Our troops are out there fighting for your freedom.
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Yes. And the Japanese, you know, they they show you They show you. The brave American troops smiley. Yeah.
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Yeah. And then they’d have those propaganda movies.
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Nineteen fifty three, 50% of American households had a TV set. Ai the end of 1960, almost nine out of 10 did.
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Wow. So what was the first television? When did it first Oh,
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they had them they started in the twenties. And then Oh, really? They were expensive as shit and probably very big, and there wasn’t anything to watch, so why would you have one? Oh. And then there was
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When was the first broadcast? The first television broadcast?
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Oh. Oh, yeah. It’s yeah. Up until the fifties, it was really just, like, public information, it says.
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Oh, so just ai the news?
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There
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wasn’t I mean, there wasn’t a lot of shows being made.
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Like, what was the first television show?
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Yeah. Let’s
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see. Before caval Gleason did cavalcade. Uh-huh. I think it’s called cavalcade. It was, like, ai the honeymooners, debuted, and he would do Reginald Van Gleason. But I don’t that’s definitely not the first one. I Ai Lucy was probably same time or before that.
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Right. And what year was that? It’d be the ’53.
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‘3, maybe ai. Or it might have been later. I don’t remember.
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So probably the television really became like, when did it become a thing where people would watch the news? Probably, like, late forties maybe?
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Yeah. Because ’63, again, the Cronkite broadcast I mean, so by then it was, like, in in full effect.
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So you gotta think that ’63 with, you know, Liberace or the the fifty five one with Liberace, that’s so new. Yeah. That’s crazy new. And then twelve years later, you know, when he’s fucking dancing with the flower pants on.
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Here’s a Wikipedia version.
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First national color broadcast, the nineteen fifty four tournament of the Rose Parade with The US Kurd, 01/01/1954. So the nineteen thirty six Summer Olympics. Oh, they have the Summer Olympics they they broadcast.
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World Series, it says, was the first catalyst, like, big big buying.
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Wow. You must have been a boss if you had a fucking television in 1936.
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Yeah. And then first, like, variety show was Milton Berle’s show. So he became known as mister television.
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What year was that? ’48?
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’47, ’48. Wow. It took his radio show and made it a TV show.
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So by the time that Liberace dancing with the pants on, it’s only 20 years old
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Yeah.
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Which is really wild.
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Was that ’68? I’m gonna I’m gonna assume it was definitely late sixties.
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’68 Meh Skelton television hours.
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And and the fact that people just didn’t know he’s a flaming homosexual. Like, the fact that How
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did you not know?
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How did you not I guess, there wasn’t enough, gay people publicly, so everyone didn’t recognize like, people knew, like, when you spoke a certain way that you could be, but it wasn’t I guess, that wasn’t, like, the the the voice that everybody recognized.
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Everybody hid it too. You know? You had to hide it. Imagine being a gay guy trying to find other gay guys back then, like, what did you do? What a risk. Oh, yeah.
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To being gay in North Korea. Like, how do those guys fucking what signal do you give when you know the other ai is not working for the state? Right. You’re in a rest area.
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Even if he is, he might throw you under the bus anyway. Ai, they have a whole culture on throwing people under the bus.
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On tattling.
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Yeah. Their whole culture is based on tattling. And if you don’t tattle on people, they they assume you did something wrong.
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I’d still like to kinda go there. I wouldn’t do it because I wouldn’t I would I would. Yeah. Just because they sai there’s all those fake storefronts and all of those or or or stores that are just for the tourists that come through, that they have all those fake stores that people They get a lot of tourism?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, they get they get enough, like, through China. They there’s companies that go through Ai, and every country doesn’t have the negative relationship that we do with them. So I would kinda like to go, but I don’t I wouldn’t trust it after that Otto, Warringer. What what was his name? Warren Warringer?
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Yeah. The kid that got Sorry.
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Yeah. Otto. Yeah. For for taking a propaganda poster. Yeah. It would be very scary to go, but I I really kinda want to. They have that giant building, the, it’s like a thousand foot tall hotel or building that is just kind of half empty, like, it’s never was finished. They light it up at night, so it looks like they have a big downtown. Oh. But the North Korea has, like, a thousand tall a thousand foot tall building.
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YouTube video of a guy that went. His name’s Mike Mike O’Kee. He went three, four months ago after they had not been opened since COVID.
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Really? Yeah. And he went just to tour around North Korea? He’s a
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British person, so he’s not from Meh. Yeah.
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And you’re not supposed to film a lot of this stuff. These guys take really, really, like, clandestine footage. You’re allowed to film in certain arya, but I think your phone you had to leave at the border when you come in. Wow.
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Yeah. He explains what he was I think he says he wasn’t supposed to, but he just
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Is he eating food there?
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Yeah. He goes to a few little towns, talks to him. I remember watching some of this. Wow. It’s like a random Coke or something somewhere or Meh Bull, I think.
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That’s so fucking risky. It is risky. Because you just the wrong thing you do, you insult them, and next thing you know, you’re in jail for the rest of your life or you’re beaten
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to death. Yeah. They said that, like, if there’s a picture of Kim Jong Un or or Kim Jong Il, you have to be respectful when you stand in front of the pictures to take your photo. They’re really and they just ram on each other.
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Well, Shane Smith went. Shane from Vice Yes. Back in the day, like, before things got too crazy over there. And he said that they set up a fake restaurant for him. Like, they pretended that they had restaurants, and so they had a fake restaurant. And he went there. There’s, like, only him there, and people are serving him.
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Bizarre. Yeah.
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He said it was really weird.
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I guess, when you’re seen as a god and everybody just cosigns it, you don’t know how bad of a liar you are. Like, you don’t know how badly you’re presenting because everybody is just, oh ai god. Like Right. So they’d have no idea. Kim Jong Un has no idea that people look at him and go, like, that’s not real.
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Right. And then the people that are there, they have no Internet. Like, their their world is the North Korean Internet. They don’t they’re not connected to the rest of the world.
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No. They would, I guess people will, like, sneak in thumb drives and stuff like that of I know South Korean TV.
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They catch you.
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If they catch you, you’re fucking but you know you know Ai Masseini, he he’s, he’s from Afghanistan and he ran, I think it was called the Moby Group in Afghanistan, but they would go next to the Iranian border and and pipe in, like, American TV shows and they would illegally send them over the border to try to get people, like, a little bit westernized or to at least see things a little bit differently. But it’s an illegal feed.
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You’re just shooting it over somehow and, you know Hoping they don’t
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kill you.
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Hoping they don’t kill you. Yeah.
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Speaking to kill you. What’s that? Sai speak of kill you
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in Iran. What oh oh, what’s going on there? Yeah. Oh ai god.
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Oh my god.
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But no one’s surprised. You know what I mean? Ai, it it I bet
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the guys who got killed were surprised. They were supposed to meet with Trump to have a peace negotiation.
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Wasn’t the time up? No. Didn’t the I thought the time lapsed. No. Did the Israelis jump the gun on the time?
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Well, the speculation according to Grok I sent Jamie this. Somebody said, did were they killed, like, ask Grok? Were they killed because they were negotiating for peace? You know, that the Israelis wanted they didn’t want a negotiation.
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Oh, because they wanted to get those nuclear sites out
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of there. They they didn’t trust the Iranians, and they wanted to make sure that these guys were gone.
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Yeah.
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They they essentially killed everybody that he was, negotiating with. So this guy’s response above it, it sai, what evidence might there be to support this position? And the position was go above that. Yeah. Israel did not attack Iran because Iran was about to attack Israel. Israel attacked Iran because there was about to be peace.
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And then this guy asked Grok what evidence might there be to support this position. And then Grok says evidence suggesting Israel’s 06/13/2025 attack in Iran aimed to disrupt US Iran peace talks includes its timing coinciding with the sixth round of nuclear negotiations scheduled around June 2025.
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International reactions ai the UN and the Oman condemning the strikes as undermining diplomacy support this view. However, Israel justified the attack as a preemptive strike against Iran’s nuclear program, citing its noncompliance with the IAEA. No direct evidence proves intent to stop peace, and the focus on nuclear sites suggests security concerns drove the action. The issue remains debated with perspectives varying by geopolitical stance.
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This now ask Grok. Grok is kind of Twitter’s AI. Right. How influenced is it by like, Sai Chad GPT I’ve gone to, and I was kinda curious because my wife’s obsessed with it. So I was like, I think this is probably still ideologically influenced.
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For sure.
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So other people have done this. I put in write five jokes about Jesus, and it did five Jesus jokes. And then I put in write five jokes about Mohammed, and it came back with, well, we like to keep things respectful
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and blah blah blah.
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And I did the same thing with write five jokes about white people and then write five jokes about black people. And it did the same thing. It wrote the white person jokes, but the black people jokes it wouldn’t write. So I was like, oh, okay. This is still somehow ai in. There’s guardrails and it’s it’s ideologically slanted. It may not always be that way.
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So I’m wondering if Grok is the same way, like, is any answer it gives you almost ai coming from either somebody at PBS or somebody from some place else?
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Grok is probably the best of them for that, but the worst was Gemini. Remember when they asked Gemini to make photographs of Nazi soldiers and they had a diverse group of Nazi soldiers, including Asian women, Native American women.
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Yeah. Just black people. Keep it keep it fair, folks. Keep it fair. Keep it fair.
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They just got locked up in this woke ideology thing to the point where the the images they created of Nazis were woke.
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I don’t know what happened where people become so afraid of, ai, I know truth can be unpleasant sometimes, but, like, where where where it goes to that level. Like, we will write jokes about Jesus, but not about Muhammad. Like like who’s programming that and thinks that’s a good thing?
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Well, they’re scared.
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They are. That’s what it is. Ai almost respect them if they said they were scared. Like, if they could look, we all understand what goes on. We don’t want somebody running in with a bomb belt. Like, you know, there’s violent retribution. Uh-huh. I would respect that, but they won’t say that. No.
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They they act like you’re crazy for questioning. What? Yeah. That’s not true. It’s not
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Yeah. It’s weird. We’re in a weird stage. We’re vatsal weird stage. We have all the information, but still it’s still got guardrails on it.
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Do you feel I feel better about myself though the older I meh. The more like, yeah, I I years ago sai it and knew it was getting worse and worse and, like, I was never stupid enough to think it didn’t exist. Sai kinda ai, yeah. Well, if nothing else, it validates what I kind of thought. You know ai I mean? Like, I feel like Ai wasn’t a fucking idiot. Right.
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I’m not taken off guard by it.
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You knew it was coming.
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Yeah. Not necessarily to this level, but, you know, when you saw this happening and then that happening, and then little weird things like Donald Sterling, that one always bothered me. His private communications being used against him, and it’s like
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ai anybody Which one was that?
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He was the owner of the Golden State Warriors.
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I don’t oh, this was the guy that Visteviano. Girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I’m sorry.
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I’m sorry. The Clippers. Yes.
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He was the guy the girlfriend who’s this little side piece. Visteviano. Yeah. And the girls the girlfriend recorded him saying a bunch of things about black people.
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And it was almost like he was like, blah ai. It wasn’t like I don’t ai he was a hateful ai, but he was just like an old guy. Like, you know what I mean? Don’t hang out. Black.
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Well, he was saying don’t do it publicly. Right?
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Yeah. I just
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Feel like it embarrasses me Yeah. Or something like that.
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His friends are probably calling him.
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Yeah. But he was, you know, he’s talking to his side piece and she’s recording him. The whole thing was gross.
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The invasion of even even if he’s a piece of shit, I don’t care about him.
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But Exactly.
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It’s the idea that people are comfortable. Like, nobody sticks up for ai. Like, everyone Right. Complains about we don’t want ai Google boot, and it’s like, hey, motherfuckers, where were you when this guy or stupid Hunter Biden’s big dick is all over the Internet? Where were you complaining about it? Yeah. Just judge them on it. So I wish people would stop doing that.
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Yeah. The the the Hunter Biden stuff, the fun stuff was ai him smoking crack and hookers
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and foot
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jobs. This is just fun.
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Did he foot jobs?
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Yeah. He did a lot of stuff.
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There’s a
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lot of wild stuff going on there. He’s a wild boy, but
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I guess,
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you know, you’re smoking crack. Sure. You know?
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You got a tub, unshaven.
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You got no guardrails. You’re off the fucking reservation.
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He’s naughty boy.
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But then the other stuff that was in there was really interesting. Yes. The the emails about 10% to the big guy Ai guy. And all that stuff. And there’s just bryden, rampant, obvious corruption that they just look the other way because it’s a Democrat. And it’s just really strange.
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If Trump junior did anything that Hunter did
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Right.
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They would kill him. Like like, they would it would be at the front page. It’s all they would talk
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about.
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They certainly wouldn’t have hid it from Twitter. They wouldn’t have. Which was really crazy. It was a New York Post story, and then FBI got involved. And the Twitter files, like, you know, when Shellenberger and Ai and all those guys went over the Twitter files Yeah. It’s so damning.
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It’s so it’s it’s so crazy that that’s not so illegal that there’s, like, just massive trials on television and people are prosecuted
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for it. I guess with private companies or even though the the media operates like But
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it’s the government. The government is what I’m concerned with. Like, because it’s absolutely election interference.
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A 100%.
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A 100%. Because there’s a lot of people that were on the fence. You know? They they didn’t know whether they’re gonna vote for Trump or whether they’re gonna vote for Biden. They didn’t know what they’re gonna do. And then they saw that, and they were ai, fuck this.
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And guys like Jack from, from Twitter have come out and sai, like, yeah, we shouldn’t have censored that story. Yeah. But it’s, like, too late now. It’s like you did it, and people were telling you when you did it. Yeah. You shouldn’t do it.
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Zuckerberg talked about it on this podcast. He talked about the FBI getting involved on the podcast, censoring COVID information, censoring a laptop information, and that this weird feeling that he got from the government all of a sudden telling them what they and some of the stuff that they were telling them they had to take down was actually true, factual information.
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And they were like, oh, boy. And so they diminished its reach, and they did a lot of weird shit.
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And the penalty for not taking it down would have been, like, what were they threatening them with, like, section two thirty is a big one that all the big companies are scared of, like, if they change that, because they said that Ai think the Internet, freedom comes from section two thirty Mhmm. Where a company can’t be held legally liable for what’s posted on their site, which is how, like, you can post anything about people and the sites themselves can’t get sued because they’re like, yeah.
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We’re just like a phone company.
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It’s a public square.
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The public square. Although it’s not anymore. It’s it’s much more ideologically based, and it’s much more of a publisher, in my opinion, than a public square. But maybe they threaten you with that or maybe that’s where they start to go, like, we’ll see to it at 02:30. I mean, I know I’m guessing.
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01:17:00
But what else could they threaten them with?
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Yeah. It’s a good question. I mean, just the fear of being on the wrong side of the government. I mean, that’s the thing because then they could go after you, like, you know, for someone like Zuckerberg who had already sat in front of those congressional hearings and they, you know, they had already asked him about a bunch of different things that the company had done.
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01:17:22
And you remember those weird those weird, hearings that he had to sit through or
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01:17:28
Yeah.
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01:17:28
Sip water very strange and people said he’s a fucking robot. He’s probably so nervous.
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01:17:34
Of course, he
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01:17:34
is. Yes, senator. No, senator. Thank you for asking, senator. Ai, all those weird moments. Like, you gotta be terrified of those people because they could change laws or they could just decide to prosecute you for thing. I mean, look what’s happening to the guy Durov from Telegram.
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01:17:49
I don’t know that story.
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01:17:50
You don’t know that story? No. He is essentially, he’s under house arrest in France. He has not been tried with anything. He has not been charged with anything. But what they’re saying is essentially, they sana a backdoor to Telegram. Telegram is an encrypted app.
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01:18:08
Right.
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And a lot of people use it for illegal things. Just like a lot of people use Twitter for illegal things. A lot of people use DMs for illegal things. They they I’m sure they use signal for illegal things and WhatsApp for illegal things. And they wanted a Telegram was especially popular amongst criminals, and they wanted to be able to get in there.
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01:18:27
But then the question is, like, well, what do you determine as a criminal? Is it a political dissident? Like, is you know, what does it what does it mean?
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01:18:33
Is it is are you looking for underage people being photographed?
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01:18:38
Right.
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01:18:38
Or are you looking at just people who like, they because they can always expand what they consider to be illegal. Oh, yeah.
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01:18:44
I
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01:18:44
mean, they took Backpage down, so they can get certain company like, if you don’t do what they want you to do, there is a way for them to get you by saying you’re too complicit in certain activities. Sai you want
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01:18:55
to Silk Road. That’s that’s what happened with that.
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01:18:57
Ross Albrecht.
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01:18:57
Yeah. And now he’s luckily, Trump freedom.
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01:19:01
Did he did he pardon him? Yes. Oh, he did. Okay. Him.
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01:19:04
Yeah. Yeah. We tried to get him on, but he’s just not ready to talk, which is totally understandable.
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01:19:08
Yeah.
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01:19:08
He said if you ever do, if you wanna talk, I’d be happy to hear your story.
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01:19:11
Well, because you’re probably afraid that they’re gonna come with something else. Like, it’s almost like Ai don’t
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01:19:15
wanna put it in their face.
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01:19:16
You know what?
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01:19:17
Now I’m out. Fuck those people. What they did to me was wrong. Oh, new charges.
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01:19:20
That’s right.
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01:19:21
Yeah.
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01:19:21
That’s why whenever somebody’s exonerated after thirty years of being in jail, they’re ai, I I’m not even angry. I just want because you’re afraid you’re gonna say the wrong thing and then you go, ai. We’re gonna come back.
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01:19:29
Well, that was the really scary thing about the Trump stuff. Like, when they were trying to get him for thirty four felony counts, with none of those were a felony. All of them were past the statute of limitations. It was just bookkeeping errors or bookkeeping, you know, they they wrote down the wrong things, and they tried to hide the fact that he was making hush money payments.
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01:19:49
But the the reality of that legal system being used against you, lawfare being, you know, they target you. Ai, the the real estate one, When they they tried to say that he overvalued Mar a Lago and it was really only worth 18,000,000, and so they charged him, like, hundreds Yeah.
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01:20:07
Millions of dollars, which is fucking insane. Because Mar A Lago is an enormous piece of property that is on the most expensive place in the country. Ai, that arya, he’s got I think he’s got is it more than 20 acres there? I mean, it’s a huge piece of property there. And the next door neighbor had a place that was, like, five acres and sold for $50,000,000. Just the property. Yeah.
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01:20:33
Sai They fucked him. They fucked him.
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01:20:35
Right. And it’s obvious that they were fucking him. They were they were doing it because they were trying to make him a felon when he was running for president.
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01:20:42
Yeah. Letitia James went after him really badly in New York. It turns out she had done so. Little bank little bank stuff going on. Yeah. She did some Little mortgage questions. Yeah.
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01:20:51
She did some inappropriate things.
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01:20:53
But he’s a whether people like him or not, I like I don’t always agree with him at all. But he’s an amazing person. Ai, to to have withstood that the pressure of that. Again, just as a to to continue with with the pressure that they were putting on him and the way they were coming after him and to still run again anyway.
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01:21:11
I mean, it’s the fucking craziest thing you’re ever gonna see in your life. And they shot him. And they shot him, and they would the guy was gonna do it again, or try to. And another and a fucking, oh, yeah. That that guy with the hole in the in the fence where his golf course was. Kooky. It’s kooky. But it’s ai and somebody pointed out to meh.
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01:21:28
It’s like I mean, I’m surprised he doesn’t expect this. It’s like he went after them. Like, he he went after the CIA and the FBI and said, oh, they’re gonna make it their life’s work I know. To come after you now.
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01:21:38
It’s also crazy when it gets real transparent like that, though. You know, but when someone like Zuckerberg or any of these other people that run afoul of the federal government or the intelligence agencies, when they see stuff like that, I understand why they comply. Yeah. They’re probably fucking terrified.
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01:21:54
It is a little or very scary when when you’re on there. Like, you never want them to dig in and be focused on on you.
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01:22:01
Ai of Sauron. Yeah. Yeah.
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01:22:03
We’re coming for you and because, again, they don’t pay they don’t pay legal fees. They can do it all day. They can do it through the next administration. Because Leticia Jay, she went after what I didn’t like about her was a lot. But I didn’t like the fact that they went after Cuomo for his book money.
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01:22:19
Like, they went after Andrew Cuomo for his book money, I think. They wanted to get back five yeah. For
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01:22:24
what reason?
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01:22:24
I don’t know what her reasoning was. I mean, obviously, she just wanted to stick it to him and fuck him. But I I think it was that he it was seen as some form of a government payment or I don’t remember the technicality, but I remember being very annoyed that she was trying to go after I think it was a $5,000,000 advance.
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01:22:40
Lawfare is fucking terrifying.
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01:22:42
It’s terrifying when they do that to people when everybody could see it. But, like, that’s the real problem with the Trump one. And my problem wasn’t my my real problem was, like, don’t these people understand? Doesn’t the general public with their lack of outrage because, you know, he’s on the right and they’re on the left.
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01:23:00
Don’t those people understand that now they’ve set a precedent, and then they could use that on you now Yeah. Or anybody else. And if a Republican president gets in like ai in now, it could be easily used on his opponents because they’ve set a precedent. That’s scary shit, man.
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01:23:17
It’s really scary.
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01:23:17
And nobody’s again, it it’s like whether it’s with Donald Sterling and ai. Nobody sticks up for each other on principle. And the conservatives don’t do it, like, the for the the they’re they’ve got, like, the free speech thing in their corner now much more than progressives do.
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01:23:30
But it’s ai, I don’t hear them sticking up for progressives who are annoying. It’s ai Right. You have to stick up for people you don’t like Yes. And that you think are shit. Yes.
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01:23:38
It’s it’s not just you’re not a big free speech warrior if you only fucking raise a flag for people who agree with you. And Ai I find them falling into that ram, and it’s ai, don’t fall into that fucking trap.
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01:23:49
Right.
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01:23:49
Stick up for progressives who suck and who are saying stupid things. Defend their right to say it without getting in trouble. Don’t look at them getting fired as, oh, good good taste your own meh, ai, we get it. Yeah. But then that’s how they justify you getting fired.
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01:24:01
A 100%.
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01:24:02
So it drives me crazy that people don’t defend other people’s right to privacy or right to say what they sana, and everyone in the country thinks they’re a free speech absolutist, but they’re not. They’re not. Yeah. Elon’s as close as I’ve seen. Like, he doesn’t seem to be shutting anybody up, like, regardless of what they say on his platform.
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01:24:19
People are talking shit about him every day.
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01:24:21
I saw one person was was alluding to, bad things happening to him, you know, ai, wanting that or I wouldn’t say encouraging it, but close to encouraging it. And I’m like, if he’s leaving that up, nobody has any room to complain. Yeah. Like, if he leaves up horrible shit about himself, then
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01:24:37
And Buddy also left up the Kanye song. The the Hitler song?
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01:24:41
Oh, yes. Is that where he blew his cousin or is that a different one?
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01:24:44
That’s a different one.
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01:24:45
Oh, wow. All the hits. Yeah.
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01:24:48
That I mean, these the song is Heil Hitler. He’s singing Heil Tyler, like, in a catchy song. It’s ai, wow. I I This is crazy.
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01:24:56
It is crazy. And I don’t know Kanye West at all. I’ve never particularly, loved him. I I I find a lot of it is just, like, he’ll just say the most troll. Like, something tells me he’s gonna come back down to Earth one day and go, look, I was off my medication. I didn’t mean any of that shit that I said. I feel bad about it.
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01:25:12
I think he’s gonna stay off his medication. I think when he puts on his medication, he can’t be creative. I think part of his thing, whatever his the way his mind works Yeah. You ai, I mean, it’s a this mania.
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01:25:25
There’s
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01:25:26
yeah. Ai was gonna say I I understand that in a way because I’ve I’ve always like you know, you go through your pressure whatever. I’m like, do I wanna go on something? But I’ve always been scared that it would fuck up my Probably will. Creativity.
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01:25:37
Yeah. It probably will. I mean, I think I mean, I don’t know what’s going on in Kanye’s mind or anybody’s mind other than my own. But I would imagine that you meh, a guy like Kanye who’s so prolific. I mean, he’s put out so many albums and he’s a complete workaholic And just has like, when you talk to him, ai, I had him on the podcast, and it’s almost ai when you’re talking, he’s upset.
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01:26:00
Like, he doesn’t want he wants to talk. He wants to just constantly talk. Yeah. Ai, his brain’s like a tornado. Just it’s all just going all these different thoughts and but that’s also why he can make so many great songs. It’s ai it’s all just pouring out of him.
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01:26:14
But, you know, it also gets out of hand. And then, you know, you you wind up
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01:26:19
in the situation where he’s in now. It also he’s the only person he went into him and Trump were he was in Trump’s office one time. Yeah. And he’s the only person I’ve ever seen Trump just kinda sit there and go, alright. Well, whenever he’s finished, I’ll jump in. I’ve never seen ai do that to Trump.
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01:26:32
Well, Trump was happy that any celebrity was on his side because at that point, he was Hitler. You know? There’s a lot of people that were calling him Tyler. And to have a guy like Kanye West, who is such a contrarian. Also, there was the thing because Obama said he was a jackass. Yes.
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01:26:48
And so he was like, oh, really? Well, fuck you.
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01:26:50
That’s right. It was about the Taylor Swift thing.
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01:26:53
Oh, yeah. That’s right. That’s right.
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01:26:55
Yeah. That guy’s a jackass. Well, it wasn’t even that harsh of an and he said it privately, and I think somebody heard it or it was picked up on a mic. I don’t think he said it to be public. I thought he I thought he said it ai, and then somebody got the audio or whatever.
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01:27:08
Is that was it really the Taylor Swift thing?
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01:27:10
I believe
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01:27:10
it was. Yeah. Oh, here it is. Here. Yeah. It wasn’t Young
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01:27:16
lady seems like a perfectly nice person. She’s getting her award.
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01:27:19
What’s he doing? Ai would he do that?
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01:27:21
He’s a jackass. No. No. This all this stuff That’s our gangster.
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01:27:28
Cut this out. Look.
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01:27:29
I’m assuming all this stuff. Where’s the pool? Come on, guys. Cut the president some slack. See, it wasn’t even that
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01:27:38
And he wanted that cut out. Yeah. That was private talk.
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01:27:41
Yeah. And it wasn’t even said with real Malice. Real rancor. Yeah. It was just ai, he’s a jackhammer. People laugh. Yeah. I guess ai would annoy me if I was him. I mean
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01:27:50
If I was him. Yeah. If it was me, I’d be like, yeah. He’s right.
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01:27:53
I guess so. Yeah. I feel ai, yeah,
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01:27:54
I was being a jackass.
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01:27:55
But at what point do you because, you know, everyone has a Joe Rogan opinion. Everyone weighs in on you. It’s crazy. Like, I see on the Daily Mail all this time. At what point are you able to go, like, Sai just don’t give a fuck what
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01:28:05
I don’t read any of it. You don’t care? Nope. I don’t read any of it.
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01:28:09
No. I guess. Does it bother you? Has it ever bothered you?
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01:28:13
You can’t do anything about it. Why would it bother you? What are you gonna do? You’re gonna change their mind? You know, you can’t. And a lot of it is disingenuous. A lot of it, they don’t know you. They don’t listen to what you sai. You know, if they far right whenever they say far right, far right podcast, they’re like, okay.
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01:28:28
Yeah. I’ve had comics say that. Like, they just don’t know. And I’m like, you don’t really you really never paid attention. Meh mean, you stuck up for gay marriage. He loves Bernie. Like, it’s Silly. It’s crazy when you hear I I was very jealous that you and I talked to Hinchcliffe about this when you interviewed Magnus.
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01:28:43
Magnus Carlson. Carlson. Yeah. There’s very few people I really wanna meet that I haven’t meh, but he’s somebody. Did you see him, like, bang the chessboard?
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01:28:50
That was, like, big news in chess. Yeah. Yeah.
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01:28:52
Because he he made a fumble. He fucked up. He was ahead of the game.
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01:28:56
He was winning. Yeah. Made a blunder. It it and it was. And and but here’s the genius of the people, like, they actually call it, like, a speak. And the the the people watching it knew he fucked up, ai means they’re all geniuses.
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01:29:08
Right. Right.
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01:29:08
Right. Magnus blundered. Magnus blundered. Yeah. They couldn’t believe he had made that. It was I think it was a rook move. But he’s somebody I would like to, I don’t know what I’d talk to him about.
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01:29:18
Oh, he’s fascinating. Fascinating. Well, any high achiever or really high level person like that, world champion in something that’s insanely difficult, they’re fascinating people. I feel that way about MMA ai. Yeah. Any kind of pro athlete, anybody who’s ai Aaron Rodgers, like any any high level performer. Those are very, very unusual people.
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01:29:39
Do you give them speak, like and I meh, just in in your brain as a person, like, if they’re a little whatever. Ai they’re rude, they’re rude. But if if somebody’s a little quirky or weird, if if you’re that good at something, that might just be the price you pay.
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01:29:52
Oh, for sure.
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01:29:52
Like Bobby Fischer, I love. He’s one of my favorite people ever. Yeah. Even though he completely went berserk. But I just I have such an affection for Bobby Fischer. And I’m like, well, it’s just that he’s such a genius that sometimes it just there’s a price you pay. Ram from you. It gets away from you.
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01:30:06
100%. I think it absolutely does and can. And I think that when you you’re dealing with a high level performer in in any discipline, whatever drives them to be that much better than any anybody else probably makes them insane. I mean, I just don’t think I don’t think real true excellence comes without a price.
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01:30:27
I don’t I don’t think there’s any way to get there without just not being balanced in a bunch of other areas of your ai, because you’re focusing almost all of your attention on one very specific thing, whether it’s moving chess pieces around or throwing a football, whatever the fuck it is.
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01:30:43
Like, you’re there’s no way you can be balanced in every aspect of your life if you want to be 5% better than anybody’s ever done it. Yeah.
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01:30:52
And it is weird too, like, because to be better than everybody at something. Yeah. It it’s I mean, whether like, if you ever talk to somebody at a party just when our life is doing stand up and they’re talking about their job, a lot of ai, I’m like, oh, shut the fuck. I don’t care. Give a shit. I know.
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01:31:07
So to be that on such a level better than everyone on Earth at something has gotta it’s gotta be hard not to live in that place Yeah. Where You can’t relate. Very few things are interesting. Very few things are are moving. Right. Like Buzz Aldrin, he snapped at me when we interviewed him.
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01:31:24
He’s a bit of a cranky, guy. Let’s not dilly dally. I’ve ai get to CNN. Fuck you, Buzz.
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01:31:29
That’s what he sai. Yeah. Meh.
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01:31:30
I asked I Sai asked him a question, a good question about his book on Mars. I asked him about space travel and I said about, what type of psychological testing would you maybe need to go on a three year space trip.
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01:31:42
Yeah. And, Good question.
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01:31:43
Thank you. John, I felt it was too. Buzz did not. He fucking snapped at me. So Ai but I bet again, like, Reagan had a bit about him walking on the moon. And it’s like ai you’ve gone there, it’s almost like anything else, and I took it by the way, because it was Buzz. I wasn’t gonna yell at him.
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01:31:58
It’s like this fucking Buzz Aldrin or whatever. I’m an annoying blinking idiot asking a question that I think sounds smart and he just shut me up. But, like, how how do you find other people interesting when you’re that guy?
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01:32:08
Right.
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01:32:08
When you’ve done that, maybe my question was just banal and stupid.
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01:32:12
Well, there’s a lot of people like that that are the best at the whatever the fuck they do that they can’t relate to anybody else other than other people that do their thing. And they’re usually very competitive with those people, so they’ve alienated them from their friend group as well, which is really ai crazy.
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01:32:27
Well,
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01:32:27
the worst is people who think they’re that guy
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01:32:29
and who are just Mediocre.
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01:32:31
Ai just me the average comics.
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01:32:33
Oh, that’s the worst. The comics are the worst with that. The the narcissist comics that believe they’re better than everybody else when they’re just mediocre is crazy. And then they just, like, shit on all the other comics. It’s ai, do you ever watch your own act? Like, do you don’t hate your act? Like, that’s crazy.
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01:32:48
It it and and you think you’re doing Shakespeare. And, like, every comic, like, we all have a a narcissistic quality. Like, you need that to be in front of people. Look at me. Like, that’s a narcissistic quality. But there’s a difference between that and being, like, a legit narcissist.
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01:33:02
Yes. And the way comics are fucking they’re very petty about ai, like, they attack Matt Ai. I’m, like, he’s harmless. He’s just out there doing his act in front of fucking 20,000 people.
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01:33:10
They hate him because he’s successful.
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01:33:12
Yes.
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01:33:12
But if he was nobody, they wouldn’t hate him. That’s all it is, man. There’s so many you very rarely see these comics attacking someone who’s not doing as well as them.
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01:33:22
It’s always a guy who is doing better, who they feel I’m entitled to.
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01:33:26
Deserve it. Yeah. But, yeah, my comedy is so much more cerebral, so much more interesting. Like, oh, is it really?
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01:33:33
I I that’s one thing I’ll say for ai. And this I have a lot of faults, but I’ve always put the blame squarely where it belongs. On me. Yes. I never think it’s the world.
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01:33:43
Loves you. It’s Ai mean, that’s a very good quality to have. You know. Like, maybe self deprecating to a fault. Sure. Like, you’re a little bit self deprecating to a fault. Like, I don’t care I don’t know how many times I’ve had to tell you. No. Jim, you’re fucking great. Stop. You know, like, you and I ai had a lot of those conversations.
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01:33:59
Yeah. And I but I don’t do it for
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01:34:00
I don’t It’s better than me saying, Jim, you’re not great.
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01:34:03
Yeah. Jim, you’re okay.
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01:34:04
Yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. Leave everybody else alone and look at yourself.
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01:34:07
But I don’t I don’t do that because I want people to compliment me either. Like, I Ai never out there going, you gee, ai, am I facking? That’s that’s the pulse. But but it’s the guys who think, like, I I I went and watched and I don’t know Matt. I just I went and watched some of his clips. I’m like, he’s funny. He’s just doing crowd work. Like, what’s the problem? And he’s good at it.
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01:34:24
He’s good at it.
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01:34:24
It’s the reason why the arena’s full. First of all, he’s very handsome, good looking ai. Yeah. Cute, adorable, lovable. Really nice guy in real life. Ai knew him before he was ever famous. I met him when he was 20 years old. He was coming around the store. He was a nice fucking guy. Yeah.
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01:34:38
I’ve been friends with him for a long time. I don’t understand that hate. But, you know, I was coming from a different position. You know, I was coming from ram position where I was already famous, and I wasn’t looking to be more. I wasn’t, you know there’s there’s some people that, like, always feel like they haven’t gotten enough.
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01:34:54
They haven’t gotten enough bryden, haven’t got enough speak, you know, that this other people are stealing from them. Yeah. It’s a famine mentality. It’s a terrible mentality to carry around with you because you never heal from it. If you go through life with this famine mindset and everybody else is doing better than you, like, you you have the worst attitude ever for getting good at things because you’re always going to be focusing too much of your attention on other people.
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01:35:20
Yes.
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01:35:20
You’re really sabotaging yourself whether you believe it or not.
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01:35:23
What they’re getting, what they’re doing. It’s the feeling of entitlement. Like, if I was if I was bitter about every person that used to open for me that passed ai, I mean, I’d be on a comedy club roof with an AR 15. Ai just I couldn’t handle it. I mean
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01:35:35
I know.
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01:35:35
You have to learn to live with it and go, like, yeah. You know what? I recognized people that were funny. Like, I like funny people and I was right about certain people. Like, they’re really good comics. Sai, yeah, it’s that sense of entitlement that guys get that drives me fucking crazy.
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01:35:49
But I see them attacking certain people doing well, and I’m like, I don’t they always did it to Carrot Top. Even though he’s actually ai, he’s a funny comic.
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01:35:56
It’s a funny show. He’s got a great way. Show in Vegas. It’s fucking great, and he’s a really nice guy.
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01:36:00
Yeah. He’s a great guy. He’s not
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a mean guy. It’s doesn’t deserve anyone’s hate. He’s a sweetheart. Yeah. And then when I had him on the podcast, he was so happy and so thankful that, like, someone wasn’t shitting on him. And they said, like, dude, I got great crowds now. My crowds are packed. Like, it’s a great show. If you’re in Vegas, go check him out. Yeah. It’s fun.
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And he’s a really nice guy.
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And I watched him, ai, on Kill Tony. There’s a clip of him, and they pulling up these things and, like, gay mouse. It was a disco ball over a mouse ram, and it was so stupid. But it’s, like, it’s it was really as funny stuff. It’s silly. And comedians think all props are bad or all and me and Colin talked about that one ai, and he goes, why should the hacks own McDonald’s?
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Like, meaning, like, if you have something that’s original and funny to say about a subject, who cares if hacks have touched it? If your thought is original Oh, shit. Fuck them.
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Exactly.
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And And it’s this weird thing where comics think they sound smarter if they go after certain things.
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Yeah. It’s stupid. It’s dumb. It’s a dumb perspective. It should be here’s the world through my eyes, and everything is in the world. Traffic is in the world. If you have a traffic joke and it’s actually legitimate, like, maybe you have a perspective on traffic that I’ve never heard before.
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Maybe your airline travel bit will be the airline travel bit,
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which I really love.
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Because, you know, there’s that’s the problem with comics too is that when you’re on the road too much, your experiences are very limited. Because all you’re doing is performing in front of people, hanging out in the green room, going to dinner, flying in a airplane, staying in a hotel.
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So how many comics have jokes about hotel rooms and and and, you know, they knock on the door even when the do not disturb is on, you’re jerking off. Like, how many guys have done those jokes? Yes. But it’s just because you’re you have a very limited experience to draw from.
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I actually I I started taking days off, and my wife and I will go on vacation somewhere. We’ll do because it becomes what you’re feeding on yourself. Like, you you you’re only doing a b c d a b c, and there’s no life. Right.
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And I’m
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like, what am I gonna fucking talk about? We get it. You’re at Newark Airport. It sucks.
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Yeah.
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So I I I just wanted to do more life things. A, because it’s fun to do, but, b, it’s ai just I allowed myself to because I’m like, you could at least talk about it on stage. It’s not you can’t just talk about being a comic or you’re Right. I’m I’m almost too much talk about myself. Like, I wanna start talking about other things.
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I just feel like the only thing I’m really qualified to discuss in my own life, but I kinda wanna talk about other shit too because, like, life is kinda stable now and it’s I I don’t know what to do with that. I don’t know how to handle, you know ai I meh, like not being out and being crazy and fucking riding around for four hours a night with a piss cup in my car.
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I mean, it was just it was ugly. It was a fucking ugly scene show. So I did when ONA ai kicked off the I would ride around and just fucking just ride around for for for four hours a night. Listen, I couldn’t listen to any comedy. I couldn’t because I was so in such a fucking depression. I would put on Sports Radio six sixty, Joe Beningo overnight.
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I don’t know. Do you know who he is? No. He was a guy on six sixty, two forty on the fan, and he was a Meh fan, and he was a fucking maniac. But I would listen to him complain about the Jets and, or Art Bell. I Sai fell in love with Art Bell.
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He’s right there.
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Ah, I didn’t even notice that.
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Yeah. He’s on the wall now.
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That’s why I heard about Michio Kaku, which was ram him. Okay. And I tyler you, he lived in my building in New York, Michio Kaku. Yeah. So I, would listen to Art Bell, and I would listen to Joe Benengo and just look at hookers all night. And, I piss in a cup, and I would fucking ride around, and it was just my my way of and go to bed, wake up maybe eight hours later, and go to tough crowd when I was on.
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It was a very crazy fucking time. Yeah.
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So that life when the ONA got pulled, that was, that was an interesting moment of censorship. Right? Like, that homeless guy came on and said terrible things about Condoleezza Rice.
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And the queen of no. That’s a different when we got fired was for sex for Sam. That was, 2002
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Someone had sex in a church. Yeah. Yeah.
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You got
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points. Ai. That’s right. That’s right.
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But the company had signed off on the bit. Like, I got why they were meh, but they had signed off. It was a sponsored bit. The company knew what was going on. Saloni could have survived that if the company didn’t Throw
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them out of the boat. Panic.
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And in fair it’s so much it’s so funny, like, regular radio is what saved the career because when XM suspended the show for a month, we were on K Rock at that time. Right. And they kept us on for the month. Oh. So then eventually, we came back to satellite a month later. But I think they would survive.
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Those
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days. Yeah.
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Yeah. It’s I’m I’m not doing radio now. It’s the first time in twenty years. It’s very strange Wow. To, to not have to be up. I get up at, like, nine now and just go to the gym, so I have some kinda schedule. But it’s very weird after twenty years to be gone from that day.
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On radio forever. It’s been more than twenty years, hasn’t it?
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Well, it was twenty on this run and, like
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But well, the when did the ONA start?
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ONA, I did like 02/2001, 02/2002. Okay. We got fired, came back on October of o four, and my contract expired the December, Sana of twenty four. So it was about twenty two years total.
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Every comic owes Sana a debt of gratitude. All of us do. Without them, I don’t think there would be podcasts. I think that was the real podcast. Because that was the first time we realized because ONA did the show with no structure. Whereas, like, I did Howard a bunch of times, but when you did Howard, you were a guest. Yeah. They wanted stuff that you were gonna talk about.
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They had questions for you. They had setups. You know, they were ready. And then a couple ai, I did Howard where you would write jokes for him. So you would sit there, and there was an overhead projector. It was the Jackie chair when Jackie left.
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Right.
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So they brought a bunch of us in and then already wound up doing it, all the time. I couldn’t do it. I just, like, it was too early in the morning. Yeah. It was, like, I didn’t wanna live in New York, but I did it a bunch of times. But it was structured, you know, and Howard was always in control of it, and he’s actually running the keys.
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You
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know? He’s he’s running the board, the soundboard. And, you know, it was a very structured show, and, you know, that’s how he did it forever. I get it. But the way ONA did it was so different. There was no structure. You’d go in there and just sit and just have fun.
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Yeah.
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And it was be Patrice and you and me and then fucking, you know, everybody would come in.
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Bobby.
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Voss and Bobby and all these different people come in and burr and, you know, I mean and it was some of the wildest moments ever, like the baby bird that It’s
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the I’ll never see anything crazier than that in my life. Never.
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Yeah. Yeah. He died recently,
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01:42:23
Pat from Wenaki. Yeah. Pat from Wenaki. Pat Philbin, I think his name was.
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Rest in peace, Pat from Wenaki. That one thing that you did that one day was one of the most shocking things I’ve ever seen in my fucking life. Yeah. It was, Ari was there with meh. Burr was there. And I meh it was my idea.
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I think it was. Right?
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Because, you know, I was doing Fear Factor at the time. I was used to people doing horrible shit. And I was like, how about you lean your head over the garbage can and he throws up in your mouth? Yeah. And fucking Pat Duffy was such a psycho. He was like, okay. He would do anything. He brushed his teeth with cat shit.
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I I thought it was dog shah, but you might be right. But I’m gonna say Pat Duffy was a fucking Fucking psycho. He was like a marine if interns had that. He was a speak. He was a seal. Fearless. Fearless. He was funny. He didn’t give a fuck.
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He
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got it. He was great.
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It was great. He was the best, like, radio employee of all time.
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He really was.
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And that that moment was the fucking craziest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I couldn’t believe it was happening. And the amount of vomit that was coming out of Pat’s mouth when he was thrown into Pat Duffy’s face. And Pat was lying there with his mouth open
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Yeah.
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Letting I mean, people at home listening to this, you know, come on. There’s cell phone footage of this
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01:43:36
Yes.
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From, like, a 2002 cell there it is.
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01:43:39
2007. Yeah.
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Was it 2007?
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Yeah. And he because we’re in K Rock. That’s the K Rock studio right there. Look. He just froze up in his mouth. His mouth is
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wide open. It was so disgusting, and it kept coming. Yeah. Because Pat ram, like, some fucking he was like
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01:43:53
70 something things of eggnog. It’s ai two gallons of
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eggnog. It was fucking insane.
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And he had die oh, there he goes.
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There he goes. And it would just keep coming. Like, you’re like, no. It’s over. And if you hear us in the studio, we’re all screaming. And he just keeps throwing up. You think it’s over? You think it’s over? Nope. He’s got more. And at the end, I mean, it’s cartoons.
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01:44:17
It’s like that scene in Stand ai Me with the blueberry eating contest.
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01:44:23
Yes. Or in, ai Monty Python.
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It keeps going. It keeps going. It doesn’t end. He thinks it’s over. Oh, it’s fucking absolutely completely insane. Do
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you ever see the meaning of ai, Monty Python? Yes. When the guy went buy a wafer thin mint monsieur, and he starts vomiting. Get me a bucket. I’m gonna throw up. Oh, yeah. That’s what he reminds me of because he’s not moving. He’s standing there, and his mouth opens, and the vomit just shoot for the exact Dude, usually, you wretch, and you move.
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But he just opened his mouth, and it was ai a button got pushed for the fucking it’s the craziest fucking thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
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Yeah. And if it wasn’t, there it is.
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01:44:59
It keeps sai shoe It’s just
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01:45:01
like but it’s not that’s not even as extreme.
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01:45:03
No. Look how fat that guy is. I mean, he was just great. Insane. A Waffer thin mint. Yeah.
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01:45:08
And, you know, that show having that kind of a format, let us all realize how fun it is to just get comics together and just talk shit. Yeah. You know, and then when Anthony started doing live from the compound when he did his own show, that was and and then, of course, Tom Green’s show because Tom Green
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has
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his own show in his living room. And I Ai was a guest on that too, and I was like, that really lit the light bulb in my head. Yeah. But when Anthony started doing his own show from his basement, I was like, why don’t I do something like that? You know, I could see and he had a professional setup.
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He had he had fucking beer kegs and he had a beer on tap and he was doing karaoke with a machine.
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With a machine gun. I mean, just a psychopath singing you light up my life with a fucking Arya 15.
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But he was having a good time. And I remember the the radio station was trying to get him to stop doing it. XM or Sirius, whoever it was, was trying to get him to stop doing it. And he was like, but why? It’s not radio. Right. Because if if anything, he’s getting more people to watch the radio show.
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He would do it on weekends. He didn’t interfere with the show. It was ai he would just go and fuck around and
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That was back when we were on Pal Talk too. Remember?
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01:46:12
Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah.
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The video would be on Pal Talk because most people would only be watching or listening on radio. Right. But then they would broadcast live on Pal Talk because it was, like, so unheard of. Like, nobody was doing that.
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01:46:24
That was how the Anthony Weiner dick photo got out. Really? That was from Opie and Anthony. That was we had Vincent D’Onofrio in studio, and we had, Andrew Breitbart. And, because I had met Breitbart doing red eye on Fox. So they both came in and we were talking, and the Pal Talk window was open.
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And apparently, I didn’t like Andrew had the picture of Anthony Weiner’s dick. So he showed us in studio. We just looked at it on the phone. I didn’t but apparently, Anthony held it up to the Pal Talk window and showed them and somebody grabbed it. Oh, wow. And that was how that photo got out.
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Wow. SiriusXM and sticky situation. I want an investigation from Sirius into what the hell happened there, Breitbart says after he shows an x rated picture shah shock jocks, Obi and Anthony, who then shah it on Twitter.
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01:47:14
Ai. Yeah. But, it was one of the but Breitbart got mad at meh, and he’s like, I was friends with Jim Norton, and he tyler us to Elliot Spitzer on his show, and he goes and he betrayed meh, but I really didn’t. It wasn’t me. I was doing Tom Papa’s fucking podcast.
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01:47:26
So he thought you did it.
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01:47:27
He thought I set him up, but I really didn’t. No. And I saw him years later in LA, and we Ai I explained to him, and he was very cool. I was happy because right before he ai. So I always liked him. I was happy that we at least I ai to tell him that, dude, that wasn’t me at all. Did they whack him?
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01:47:40
Did they whack Andrew Bebopart? Yeah. No. Because they would’ve crashed the site. I mean, I he was doing coke. Right? Wasn’t it an overdose or something?
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I think he had a heart attack.
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Oh, it was a heart attack. I thought it was you know, I’m just starting rumors. I sai doing coke. Right? That was
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01:47:51
I don’t remember. I mean, maybe he was doing coke. But I think it was a heart attack.
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01:47:54
Oh, it
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01:47:57
ai whacked. Really? Because, yeah. He was one of those guys shah was, you know, exposing a lot of
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01:48:02
shit. Yeah. But they didn’t they didn’t crash the site. Did the site change after he was gone? I’m wearing headphones. Goddamn it. It’s just so bad. Come on.
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01:48:10
Ai put them on.
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No wonder I was enjoying myself so much.
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01:48:13
We did when Liberace winks at me. Liberace got you to wear headphones.
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01:48:17
He sure did.
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He just noticed that you were wearing
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01:48:18
them. Yeah. I I didn’t notice either, but when Liberace winks, you have to hear it in both ears.
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01:48:26
Yeah. There was some there was some speculation that he got ai. But whenever anybody dies or speculation, they got whacked.
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01:48:31
Yeah. I didn’t I didn’t know that. Oh, yeah. But I felt bad about that.
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Was that collapsed on the street near his home?
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01:48:38
Collapsed on the street near his home? Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Mhmm. Focal coronary arthrosclerosis ai from congestive heart failure, which had been diagnosed the year before. Oh, so he had a heart attack.
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01:48:54
Okay.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, when you’re running a site like that, I mean, matching the stress.
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01:49:00
It’s constant.
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01:49:00
Yeah. And then, you know, you’re also, like, your your business is exposing people politically and opening up yourself to potential assassination.
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01:49:08
Who do you think put up the OPM Anthony homeless Charlie audio? Oh, he did? It was Andrew Breitbart. It was before I knew him. But that that’s where it went up on Breitbart. And the headline was, will this crash? Will this stop the merger between Sirius and XM? Wow. So that was why they reacted because they were afraid. I think people in regular radio wanted to stop that merger.
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01:49:30
Oh, a 100%.
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01:49:31
So they
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Radio was terrified of Sirius XM.
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01:49:34
They were terrified of it. And I think so I think they pushed that story hoping that it would fucking tank the merger, which, of course, it
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01:49:41
did not. You remember those days when you first went over there? It was so crazy because we could talk like we had talked in the green room.
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01:49:47
Yeah.
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We could speak. We’d call someone a cunt. You could say anything you want. It was crazy.
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01:49:52
They never I’ll tell you one thing but seriously, even though I didn’t like the way the contra way my time there ended, I I I wish that was handled a little bit better. But Ai guess everybody who leaves a gig wishes things were handled differently. They never once fucked with me about content. I’ll say that for them.
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They never came for me and goes, hey, meh, we that thing you talked about, could you not? Could you back off? Even long into where everybody was getting canceled in trouble, Sirius never came and and asked me not to say something. Jim McClure who ran the channel never broke my balls about jokes we did or a stance we would take, like, they kinda let that go.
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01:50:27
Well, they had a crazy situation where they you knew that one person was getting insane amounts of money.
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01:50:33
Yes.
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Howard Stern. And everybody else was getting very little. It was real weird. It was because it was very open that Howard was getting all that money, which obviously, he was the reason why everybody went over there in the first place. Yeah.
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01:50:46
He he said I get it. It. It was it was serious. And we were at XM, and he was at Sirius, and that was the giant get was Howard going over.
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Also, there’s also the thing that if he leaves, the stock collapses, especially now. Yeah. You know? I mean, if if you don’t have Howard Stern anymore, what do you got? What do you have that’s not available for free?
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01:51:04
Yeah. I sold by Sirius speak, so whatever happens. Ai I I did. I was happy. It spiked up to, like, seven, and I fucking dumped.
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01:51:10
Were you allowed to sell while you were working there? Did you have to wait till you weren’t working there?
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01:51:13
No. They didn’t nobody can. Nobody asked me. They didn’t give you stock
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or you bought? No. I ai
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01:51:17
bought it I bought it years before when I thought they’re gonna go bankrupt. We we bought a little bit. But I was guess when I talked about the lawsuits, I was getting sued, so I didn’t buy as much because paying for fucking lawyers. Ai, yeah, they ai to cut me like an unreasonable amount and so we were still negotiating and then they just go, oh, yeah, we’re not gonna renew.
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01:51:33
They waited till Christmas break and they go, we’re not gonna renew. So I was like, alright. I guess Ai get why they did that but
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but it’s gotta be weird when you’re over there and you know that Stern is getting hundreds of millions of dollars. And everybody else is like, you know, they’re just pinching pennies with people.
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01:51:47
I never minded that and really didn’t care because I only cared about what I was getting. And when I saw what they gave certain podcasters that went over there, I’m like, okay. They do have the money. So if they’re choosing not to give it to me Yeah. I have to just accept that. Like, you know what I mean?
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01:52:04
Like, I never knew what Opie and Anthony made. I still to this day don’t know what their salary was. I never asked.
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01:52:09
That’s great.
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01:52:10
Begrudge those guys. I never gave a fuck. Like, you know, they were the ram, Opie Anthony. It was ai they took me in, so I never care what they got. I never felt entitled to their money. And I never asked what they made. Meh me and Opie did a show. I never said, what’s he making? Like, they gave me a raise, but I didn’t I don’t look at money like ai.
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01:52:27
Like, where I have to know what you’re because it’s ai Yeah. That’s not my That’s good.
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01:52:31
That’s a healthy way to look at it.
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01:52:32
Yeah. Yeah. So whatever Howard made, I’m sure some of it was inflated, but, like Oh, he made a lot of fucking money. He did. He made a lot of
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fucking money. But but, again, if he’s not there, how are you selling it? If he’s not there, what are you what are you selling that’s not available for free everywhere?
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01:52:49
That’s why I was, like, bummed about the way it happened. I’m like, because we did a a talk show. Maybe they were just like, ah, we can put more money into the rest of the channel if Jim go whatever. I’m glad. I’m doing a podcast. Like, I haven’t noticed any change in my life, which is great, because I’m on the road more making you know, I’m making money on the road, but it’s weird not having it.
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01:53:05
It’s weird it’s weird not knowing that it’s there.
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01:53:09
Right. Right. Right. Like Yeah.
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01:53:10
It hasn’t affected anything, but the knowledge that that income was gonna be there is gone. So it’s a ai of a weird naked feeling.
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01:53:18
Does it make you more motivated to do stuff, though, to, like, to get your own thing going on?
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01:53:23
In the I’m on the road more now. Like, I’m doing extra road work. And the special was one of those things where I wanted to do one anyway, but it like, I shot it in November. And before we even came back from break, I had my channel set up. I had already started doing episodes. I was like, fuck this. I’m not sitting and waiting.
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01:53:42
It’s not gonna take me a year.
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01:53:43
Yeah.
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I’m just gonna get up. And if it takes me a year to get moving, fine. But I’m gonna start now.
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01:53:48
What is Sam doing these days?
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01:53:49
He’s doing a show. They gave him the show.
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01:53:51
Oh, so he still has the shah, and they got rid of you?
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01:53:53
Yes. Woah. Well, I mean, I kinda saw that coming. Ai you still Really? Yeah. I mean, I I almost because they they had cut me the year before a little bit. But, again, I’m not unreasonable. I’m not a fucking idiot. People take cuts.
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Oh, they cut your money? Yes.
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01:54:08
By 10%. But I’m like, you know what? It’s still good money. My wife had just come to The States. I’m like, I wanna make sure I have money for lawyers, whatever. And then I told my manager, they’re gonna cut me by this much, guaranteed. And they almost to the dollar offered me what I predicted. So we pushed back and ai to negotiate, and they were acting like they were negotiating.
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01:54:26
And then the day the day of Christmas break, like, we were off the air for two weeks, I got the call, like, yeah. We’re not gonna so they were just kind of, I think, keeping it going until that. Ai I don’t I don’t have any I truly don’t. Like, they bought me two apartments. I had a great life there. I fucking I broadcasted for twenty years. Like, it’s time to move on anyway.
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Yeah. And I was telling you a long time ago that you could be doing better on the Internet anyway by your own.
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I think you you I remember I remember you talk to ai, I mean, 2017, around even before then about pod I I wasn’t allowed to podcast because of my, my contract. They wouldn’t allow ai. And I think that was one of the sticking points with this one. I was like, I have to be able to do my own podcast, especially if I’m taking a cut.
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01:55:07
And I’ll just eat shit for a while until it gets where I want it to go.
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Yeah. You have to be able to be your own boss in this day and age. It’s just it’s not it’s and also the as big as Sirius XM was, it’s just not that anymore. You know, it’s just not what it used to be. Like, if if I didn’t have a podcast sana during the O. B. Anthony days, what it was in his height, if they offered me a show, I’ve been like, woah. Yeah. Okay. That would have made sense.
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But now, I’d be like, what am I what? That unless I wanted to do kinda what Howard’s done, just make a ton of money and kinda, like, slip away, which is really what I kinda tried to do with with Spotify. I was hoping that Spotify was gonna make me, like, 10% less famous. That was, like, the idea behind it. Yeah. I ai, like, give me money. Give me money.
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01:55:52
I’m smart.
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Be any more famous. I don’t need that. I’m like, just give me the money. But, you know, if but nowadays, it’s like there’s just not enough people listening. And I know they own Pandora now too. So they made a bunch of deals with podcasters ai I think they’re gonna try to get people to listen to Pandora and do it that way. But You’re Ai.
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01:56:11
I think they do too. Stitcher. Yeah.
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Yep. I used we used to be on Stitcher too. But that’s the thing. It’s like the Internet is just too there’s so many more people that are listening to all these other platforms, Spotify, YouTube. It’s just it’s just too enormous. It’s too big to Right. Ignore.
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01:56:28
It it is it is. And it’s ai, I think that they kind of they handle podcasting in a way that terrestrial radio handled satellite, which was, you know, it’s not a big deal and then meh involved with it or somehow embrace it, but a little bit later in the in the game. A little
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01:56:45
too late.
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01:56:45
Yeah. But Ai mean, they have some big podcasts. I mean, like, again, I don’t think They ai
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01:56:49
to call her daddy now.
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01:56:49
They do. Yeah. And when when I knew I realized the money they gave her again, ai I don’t begrudge her at all. Like, whatever you make, you make, and it’s got nothing to do with my salary. But I realized they do have the money. Right. So if they’re choosing not to, I
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have to just fucking accept that. But you gotta wonder if that’s a good idea for her. But she’s still on Ai, though.
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01:57:06
I don’t know. Is she? I don’t know.
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01:57:08
Yeah. Isn’t she? She is. Right? Yeah. I think she’s still everywhere else too. Yeah. Which is makes it a good idea. The thing is if they limit your distribution, that’s what makes it a bad idea. Like, one of the new things that we did with this new deal with Spotify ai they were actually into it was put it everywhere.
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Yeah.
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You know, not just beyond Spotify, but also go back on YouTube, back on Apple Right. Back everywhere, which was made me very happy. Like, it should be everywhere.
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01:57:34
Yes.
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You know?
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Because you want people to go to just to stumble on it or to go, Ai heard this thing about about this thing today. I sana go look at it right now. Right. They don’t want to sign up for something into the fucking email. Exactly. Give you a credit card. Yeah.
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01:57:45
It it’s kinda silly.
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01:57:46
And some people just get accustomed to using certain platforms. Like, for me forever, all I listen to is Apple Podcasts. You know, the podcast app on Apple Yep. Simple. I’d ai download whatever the fucking shows I wanted to listen to, and I would get it that way. I don’t wanna have to change. Right.
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01:58:03
I don’t
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wanna have to look around, you know. It’s just one of those things. People get accustomed to getting things in a certain way.
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01:58:08
It’s right. It’s there. Yeah. Yeah. It’s great to see too, like like, Sai don’t know Schultz. I’m sure he does get the bryden, but, like, Dane deserves a lot of credit because of of the ai social media.
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01:58:19
Oh, yeah.
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01:58:19
And I think Dane history has kinda forgotten about what he like, he did a lot to change the way we promote. A 100%. And then Schultz, that that fucking thing of just turn your phone this way now
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01:58:30
Uh-huh.
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01:58:30
Like, holy like, it revolutionized the way comedians put out clips. And it’s ai I mean
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01:58:36
Well, what he did was do he he capitalized on COVID in the best possible way. He came up with a a different he’s so smart. He thought of a different style of comp because there was a lot of people during COVID that were doing, like, late night talk show monologues, on the Internet, and they were terrible.
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01:58:55
Terrible.
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01:58:55
Because there was no audience.
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01:58:56
No audience.
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01:58:57
But what Schultz did was he made up for the fact there wasn’t any audience with visuals and rapid fire punchlines.
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01:59:04
That’s right.
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01:59:05
And he did it differently than he does his stand up. Ai, his stand up, he’ll say something really funny and let it sai. So it’s even funnier. Like, it builds, you know, and he’ll look at you. Like, what? You know, it’ll hold the laugh. Yes. Whereas in this Netflix or in the the you know, it was on Netflix as well. But when he was doing the sideways thing, it was just rapid fire.
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01:59:26
And then it is he’s more than a this and
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01:59:28
a that Yeah. That and a this. And the photograph of the thing
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01:59:30
and you’d watch it, you go hilarious.
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01:59:32
He’d give him the stand up.
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Yes. And everybody was sharing it. It was a genius approach to a a genre instead of trying to apply stand up style comedy and monologues to, you know, your Ram. He did a whole new thing.
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01:59:47
Yeah. And his stand up is funny. He he did something on on on jokes that only work in Ai. And I it’s in an arena, and he’s fucking murdering the way you murder in a club. Yeah. But it’s ai they’re all new jokes just for and it was like goddamn. It’s really fun. Everywhere he goes. I know.
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02:00:01
He did that in Abu Dhabi.
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In Dubai.
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Yeah. In Dubai. He had jokes only about Ai, about, you know, about shitting on hookers. It was
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02:00:10
ai Oh, that’s so awesome. It’s my life. But I was happy to see somebody doing something really, creative as opposed to blinking their way through Chip Chipper Sana on a fucking TBS show. We do what we have to to survive.
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02:00:23
I don’t shit on Chip.
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02:00:24
I love Chip.
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02:00:25
I love Chip too. I I love the fact that that’s your your closet character. When you put the wig on and
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02:00:30
the glasses You understand it’s the bane of my ex I can’t do anything without being called a sock cucka, fucking speak of kiss. In the in the live chat today, it’s all Chip. Hey. When’s Chip coming back? Chip is it’s all people love and hate Chip.
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02:00:43
I love Chip. I love Chip. Yeah. It’s, sai. It’s such a fucking weird thing. It is. It really is.
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02:00:50
I might do it again. I miss doing it, like, when Anthony would come on, it was the, like, the best. We did a few live ai three live shows with it, and it was fucking amazing. There were theater shows, and the crowds loved it. It sold better than I do, which is absolutely humiliating. I sold tickets faster as Chip than Jim Norton. Jim Norton, there’s still a giant curtain. Chip fucking sold out.
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02:01:09
But I do miss doing it, but I don’t miss getting guests. Like, I fucking now Ai have one podcast to do. I love doing it, but I still hate saying, hey, could you film meh ai, I hate
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02:01:19
Did you do it all yourself? Yourself?
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02:01:20
Is that what you the way you did it? Pretty much. To
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reach out to people?
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02:01:23
Well, they yeah. I had a my co host, my my for the co host Ai was using most recently was Zia, and she was great. And she would do, like, a lot of the behind the scenes work for ram, and she would, you know, help reach out to people and coordinate, but I ultimately had to ask.
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02:01:36
It was like one of those things Sai wanted a comedian on. One time, Nick DiPaolo came on and he was sitting across and this was what Chip would give us all sailor hats. And we’re all wearing sailor hats and I remember What do
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02:01:46
you call him Chip. I have to.
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02:01:48
I can’t say me. I I can’t I can’t face it. It’s like Ted Bundy. We’re talking about himself in the third person. Why? Because he’s not proud of it.
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So I
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would I would always we we had on these sailor hats. Ram remember Nick was talking, and we were having fun, but it was the way he was, like, looking, like, he was looking at Jim as he was talking. And he didn’t sai he was he played along, but I was like, oh. That’s like yeah.
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Yeah. He fucking
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I just had a Nick stare at meh, and I knew he was seeing his friend, Jim
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02:02:18
With a wig on.
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02:02:19
In a wig and glasses. But I do miss it made me laugh, to do it, but people would just be too annoying about, like, oh, get this, guys. Get that. And they would complain. I was like, like, oh, I made zero money doing it. And here’s ai. I didn’t make a video on YouTube ai I didn’t realize that I shouldn’t have had the word fuck in the theme song.
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02:02:37
I’m so Jamie Jaster from fucking Hatebreed sang the theme song, and it was Chip has a fucking but, like, literally, that automatically fucks you for monetization. Right. And I had no ai. So all of my episodes had fuck in the first five seconds. I I never made any money doing Chip.
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02:02:53
Few $100 on a read here and there. But it was it was a labor of love. It was one of those things that you did.
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02:02:58
Bring it back with a new theme song?
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02:03:00
I could. Oh, I did change it at one point. I I changed it. Ai took fucking out.
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02:03:04
Change it.
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02:03:04
People love Chip. Put gosh darn. It was speak some obvious Oh, that’s even better. Some awful edit that went in. But it’s ai, when am I gonna do it? Where am I gonna do once mine gets up in it like, mine’s been up for a few months. I love doing it. We do callers, which I like the live interactions. Like, when you do radio, it’s hard to not feel like anybody is listening Right. In the moment. You know?
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02:03:24
And it takes you in weird directions. Like, people will call up with legit everyone like, some comics, like, but then as soon as somebody goes, what do you think about this? And they’re talking about wanting to commit suicide ai they’re talking about fucking it becomes interesting because people like, everyone wants to give advice.
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02:03:38
Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
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02:03:39
So So I like that. I like knowing that something alive will take you into a different direction than we would have gone in.
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02:03:45
Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. There’s something to that. Yeah. There’s definitely something to that. But there’s that, you know, there’s also something it’s ai it’s it becomes very chaotic because people arya calling in just to fuck with you and
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02:03:56
I’ve surprisingly had very little of that. We’ve been I mean, again, I’m always with coming from o and a, like, nothing is too much at this point because you become so used to Right. Craziness and peeping death threats and the fucking I still use a fake Damon de Cellar because I would get death threats.
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02:04:13
Like, there was a couple of them that actually concerned me because people using their real names. And I’m like, if a guy is threatening to kill you with his real name attached to it, like, he’s fucking he’s a problem. What was it over? There was one time Anthony had said something and the guy thought I said it, and the guy said something about I’m gonna fucking kill you.
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02:04:31
I don’t remember what it was, but it was it was the tone he said it. I’m like, that feels different than anything anyone’s ever said to me. Plus, again, last time we talked about the fucking lawyer, who hadn’t committed a murder at that point, but I still knew he was crazy.
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02:04:44
And I would get I have a hate mail fucking ai, and I used to argue with them
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02:04:48
Oh, boy.
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02:04:48
Back and forth like a dummy. But people would tell meh, watch your back. I know where you live. I’m gonna shoot you. And then I would see a real name ai to it. And I’m like, yeah. That guy’s mentally ill.
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02:04:59
There’s a lot of those out there.
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02:05:00
Fuck, yeah. There are a lot. So I started doing the I would at the Comedy Cellar, I would always use names from the JFK assassination. Ai, David Ferrie was appearing. It was never Oswald or Kennedy. I wasn’t that on the nose, but it was him. It was it was, you know, Clay Shaw.
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02:05:14
It was just all these weird people from the fucking from the, Kennedy assassination.
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02:05:18
Ali Wong used to have to do that at the Comedy Store.
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02:05:21
Oh, because she was famous. Why would she
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have stalkers? She’d get stalkers. There was this one crazy guy that kept showing up. But, you know, I guess, stalkers for a woman are even more creepy.
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02:05:31
Much more terrifying Yeah. For a woman. And it’s like there’s gotta be a way. Like in Black Mirror, there’s one thing you’d they they had a thing where you could block people from seeing you. And again, it’s a futuristic thing. But the the the penalty for stalking should be so fucking severe because the the way they allow someone to ruin someone else’s life.
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02:05:49
Yeah.
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It’s crazy that that that they haven’t figured out something where when you’re convicted of stalking, you should be forced to have something in your phone or some type of a monitor bracelet that alerts the other person. It ai me crazy. It’s nothing I hate more than some fucking creep stalker. But I guess I’ve dealt with it.
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02:06:05
So
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Again, it’s very creepy for women. Way more creepy for women, you know, and they get a lot more of them. Like, a lot a lot of guys get obsessed.
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02:06:14
Yeah. Because I don’t get no. Ai not interesting to stalk because I fuck you. If you wanna stalk me, just show up and have nice tits. I mean, you got me. But I I did fuck one stalker, which was great. It turned out to be Oh, no. Yeah. It was a bad move.
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02:06:28
And I ai I was bad in bed. I couldn’t keep it up. I was just it was it was during the lawsuit. It was a really bad time for meh. And I I kinda felt bad, like, she thought I didn’t like her, but I was just but anyway, for two years, it was phone stalking.
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02:06:42
Oi.
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And it was not scary ai it would be for a woman. Just annoying. But But it becomes a part of your life. Like, you become like, this is with the old iPhones. So I would always get these I would leave LA on a red ai, and I would land in ai, my iPhone would be filled with voice messages
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02:06:58
Oh, boy.
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02:06:58
About, you know what, Jim, and just, you know, what a piece of shit I was, the bad guy. So, like, she used to think I was talking to her on the radio, like
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02:07:07
Oh, she was schizophrenic.
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02:07:09
I don’t know. We would talk dirty a lot. And I and I and I and I, you know, and credit where it’s due. Get good
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02:07:16
dirty talk?
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02:07:16
Oh, you have no idea.
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02:07:17
The crazy ones are the best.
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02:07:19
Fuck. They anticipate exactly what you need right before you get there. Oh.
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02:07:24
Psychotic and erotic. Yeah. Real close.
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02:07:27
It really is. It it because it’s something about the inhibitions Mhmm. Being lowered and, you know, the cock ai. I always like that. Not as much now because, again, I’m married, but I always enjoyed good cock talk. It would always make me very happy. And I get why guys wouldn’t like that, but it would make me fucking crazy.
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02:07:42
It’s so weird what people like. Like, the the shitting on the chest thing. That’s bizarre. Like, influencers get paid to go to Dubai a lot of money, and those guys will shit on them.
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02:07:54
Wait. They shah on the influencer or the influencers on them?
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02:07:57
They shit on the influencer.
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02:07:59
Real I can see that. Yeah.
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02:08:00
Yeah. Ai, hot girls hot girls go over there, and they can make half a million dollars. And a guy Ai shit on for a weekend.
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02:08:08
That’s so that’s crazy. Yeah. Like, just I guess that you Probably
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02:08:11
more than that. I mean, if you’re thinking about people that have insane amounts of money, you know, what you’re you’re dealing with, like, oil money. These ai, like, we you know, we talk about the richest people in the world. Yes. Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.
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02:08:24
Yes.
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02:08:24
Well, he’s the richest public man in the world. I mean, I’m not saying he’s not insanely he’s worth 200 something billion dollars Yeah. But that’s nothing compared to these royal families.
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Right.
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These oil families, they probably have trillions. They probably have trillions of dollars, but it’s not public. They don’t have to disclose Yeah. How much money they have. Whereas in America, like wealthy people that arya, like, on the on the legit and the up and up, you, you know, everybody knows what your net worth is.
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02:08:52
Everybody knows how much you have. But to pay somebody see, I thought you meant to get shit on. Put to shit on an influencer. I’ve seen a few TikToks where I’m like, I’d give her a thousand if she let me take a dump on her. She was annoying. She was annoying.
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02:09:04
I think that’s what they do.
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02:09:05
That’s crazy. I mean,
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this is people have talked about it openly. Girls have talked on some of those weird podcast. Girls have talked about how they go over there, and they’ll they make hundreds of thousands of dollars and, you know, it’s only, like, twenty minutes of their time. They just lay there. Some guy shits on them. Everybody cheers.
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02:09:21
That’s oh, there’s a group of people watching?
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02:09:22
Bunch of guys. Your boys are there and you shit on her.
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02:09:25
An influencer. Because you ai probably said something you didn’t like.
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02:09:28
Or you just wanna shit on a hot girl’s tits.
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02:09:30
That I mean, that would do nothing for meh. And I’m a pervert.
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02:09:34
I think it’s ai a humiliation thing. They wanna humiliate people, and they wanna know that they have so much money that they can get you to submit to this willingly.
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02:09:43
Dude, I’ve seen the humiliation look every time I fuck someone. I know what that look is.
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02:09:49
It is a fucking weird desire to wanna shit on somebody.
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02:09:53
It it is because it’s so not sexual. Like, it’s weirdly punishing or, like, deep like, and again, being dirty is I’m not saying having the fetish is wrong because I’m pissed off. Like, it’s whatever. I mean, a lot. I’ve I’ve done a lot. I’ve tried it. And I don’t even know what I liked about it.
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02:10:07
I I don’t know what I liked about it. Was it because it’s naughty. It it was intimate and naughty. It was private.
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02:10:14
And not private, intimate, and naughty. Yeah. And I think well, that’s you’re getting pissed on. Whereas, like, if you’re having someone lay there while you shit on them, that is, like, just an ultimate expression of the the power of money.
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02:10:29
I suppose it is. I just don’t understand the desire. There’s like, there’s so many things I would love to do if people would let me do them for money, but not shit on them. Like, that would just be so like, my shits are horrendous. Yeah. Like, I’d be embarrassed. And,
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02:10:42
I know. And you wanna make sure you could shit at the proper time because you can’t really time your shits.
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02:10:46
No. But, again, if you have enough money to bring her over and shit on her, you have enough money to keep her on hold. Yeah. Like, you know, she’s not gonna stay busy.
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02:10:52
I’m drinking ai cigarettes, drinking coffee, brewing up a good one for you.
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02:10:59
I have not heard that. I have I know that people get sent over there and they fuck. I actually wanna go to Dubai. Like, it’s the one of the few places Beautiful. Have you been to the Burj?
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02:11:07
No. I’ve I’ve been to that, but I’ve been to Dubai. I I was at Dubai once because they had the weigh ins there for the UFC. And it’s ai everywhere you look, it’s like Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Lamborghini, ai, there’s the amount of money there was preposterous. And this was quite a long time ago.
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02:11:21
This is, like, 02/2007, I believe.
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02:11:24
That’s probably before the bryden was built. Was was the bridge to the Sai don’t think it’s there. No. I don’t
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02:11:29
think it was there. So what I’d seen is just, like, what was there then and just the obscene amount of wealth. I mean, it’s really, like, shocking.
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02:11:38
Yeah. I wanna go just to go because I’m afraid of heights. Sai, like, I wanna go into that, that that that observation deck on top, the one that top How
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02:11:45
many floors is it?
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02:11:47
I wanna say it’s, like, one twenty or something. It’s it’s crazy. It’s 3,000 feet, the, the tyler. So I think it’s the tallest structure in the world. And there’s a few people who have sat in that like, there’s a you see that picture of Tom Cruise who is batshit crazy. Like, he actually jumped out the window of that thing for real. Do you ever see footage of him training for that Mission Impossible?
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02:12:08
He jumped out the window.
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02:12:09
He jumped out the window strapped in. And I’ve seen footage of him, like, taken by people on the observation deck of Tom Cruise hanging out on the outside of the Burge Tyler. And there’s a picture of him sitting on the very, very top. It’s 3,000 feet, and his feet are just hanging off, and a helicopter is circling.
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02:12:26
He was the first guy to do it.
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02:12:28
Harnessed or anything?
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02:12:29
He’s probably harnessed on his back somehow. What is this for a Mission Impossible? One of the Mission Impossible. But yeah. That’s Oh
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02:12:35
my god.
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02:12:35
But he actually is
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02:12:36
in space. Oh my god. Look how tall that is. He’s running.
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02:12:41
It it’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen.
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02:12:42
He’s a fucking maniac.
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02:12:44
He is.
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02:12:44
The fact that he’s still doing these stunts and he’s 62 years old. Do you see what he did the last Mission Impossible? He jumped in a flaming parachute, ripped the parachute off, and then opened up the second parachute. And, you know, I mean, there’s no backup parachute for the second parachute.
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02:13:01
He’s doing this for a movie.
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02:13:03
If I met I’ve never met Tom Cruise. If I ever meh, all I wanna ask him is, how do you get insurance companies to agree?
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02:13:09
Right.
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02:13:10
To let you do this? Right. Like, I can’t imagine. He he was running down the the face of the and some of it was shot in Sai, but that’s legit. Like, that was real.
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02:13:19
Yeah. Here it is. Look at this. So he’s he jumps out in a flaming parachute, and this is all planned out. I mean, they doused the parachute with gasoline, jumps, they light it on fire. Ai at that.
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02:13:34
He hit 16 times.
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16 ai. Oh ai god. So he has to cut it loose, and then he has to open up his secondary parachute.
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Is there you wonder, is there a kill switch that if, like, like, if you push a clamp and you can’t get the clamp on it.
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He’s fucked. Like, if he can’t cut loose, he’s fucked. And if his second parachute doesn’t work, he’s double fucked.
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Yeah. I heard him say sort of, like, he figures out something crazy he hasn’t done and then just goes through all the processes of, like, how do you learn how to do this?
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Yeah. He learned how to fly helicopters for one of the stunts. So, like, one of the stunts where they’re they’re bombing through the canyons.
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Yeah.
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He was actually flying the helicopter. He wanted to make it really obvious that it was him Yes. Flying that helicopter.
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And he and the side of the I’ve seen him talk about, like, being on the side of the plane that took off when he was hanging off the Yeah. Plane. But you wonder, like, what what is it in you that like, what kind of a rush when you’re not working? What do you do to thinking how, like, fucking cowboy Saloni will fly a plane and then cut the engine and fall because he needs that he’s fucking crazy and needs dopamine.
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What do you do to match this in your life?
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Ai new one, the new plane thing. He’s done a couple of different plane ones. This is just one of them.
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Oh, oh, you see the string there. Yeah. Yeah. But they edit all that
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in the movie. Right?
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Yeah. But what if the string breaks? Yeah. What if the string breaks?
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That’s right. You can only have so much faith.
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Right? In in in Also, if he gets hit by a bird right here and gets KO’d.
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Or falls back and bangs his head on the side of the This
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is a thing that’s only for these Mission Impossible movies. But ai the way, he’s been doing these Mission Impossible movies forever.
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Yes.
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I was listening to an EPMD song the other day. And in the thing, it’s ai Mission Impossible, not Tom Cruise. Ai, there was joking around about Tom Cruise being in Mission Impossible in an EPMD song From, like, what year was that?
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Oh, EPM, you know what I was saying?
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The rappers.
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’97.
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’97.
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Do I not know them?
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That was his first Mission Impossible movie?
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I mean, that’s when the lyric came out. The song’s called The Joint. That’s the where where it’s in, I guess.
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Well, what year was the first Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie?
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The
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same time. Maybe even ai, ’95 if they were writing
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about it. Wow. Oh, shit.
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That’s wild. That is wild. ‘6. So he’s been basically doing Mission Impossible for thirty years. He’s 62 now.
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Yeah.
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Crazy. But he doesn’t do that in the other movies he does.
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Well, some of them.
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Does he? Does he do crazy stunts in all of his movies?
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What about that? You mean the one that Live, Die, Repeat? That’s
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Oh, yeah. Was he doing stunts in those?
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Not, I mean, I don’t know exactly how many of them he did, but he did the,
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feature too. Thing I
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was trying to think of too. Yeah.
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And he also broke his ankle. He was jumping from one building to another. It’s destroyed his ankle. He destroyed but he actually fucking limped and tried to finish the shot. Like, what a fuck? The shot. Yeah. It’s it’s insane.
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Sai his ankle collapse when he hits the wall. He’s a fucking nut, man. Like, a real nut. It’s like when you
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02:16:19
look but you watch old Buster Keaton footage? Oh, yeah. The crazy shit that he would do, the train or the building How many
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Mission Impossible movies are there? Ai, there’s
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11. Is there 11? No.
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I thought
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it was, like, seven or eight. Seven. Yeah. Seven?
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Yeah. So and it all started in ’96. Is that what you said? Mhmm. Jesus Christ. That guy’s been in some fucking banger movies. Scientology works for some people.
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It’s it’s, it’s interesting that he wants to do all of his own stuff. The Firm, I just rewatched. It’s funny. I hated the music in The Firm so much it took me out of it. But that’s a pretty that’s a great film. Gene Hackman was great in that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What a shame he died, man. I I he’s one guy I never met that I wanted to meet. Gene Hackman.
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Ai would have liked to have met him too.
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Oh, is he fucking He died bad, though. He did. But he died kind of the way you wanna ai, just alone and home and Well,
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he’s died. His wife died first, I think.
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02:17:10
Yes. And he had he had dementia, I think. Yeah. So I don’t even know if he knew she was dead. They sai he might have just been wandering. Maybe he just Boy. Wandered around hungry.
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Oh, boy.
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I know. Doesn’t matter who you are.
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Oof. Yeah. When when your body stops working, it doesn’t matter how many fucking people love you. It’s over.
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Brando was like that. Like, I I I Ai love because he was just so difficult. Like, you gotta love a guy who’s so good at something that people tyler it.
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He was such a nut. He bought an island and moved there.
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I just would never acknowledge being a good actor. Like, you I just always interview with Connie Chung, and she’s like, you’re a great actor. And his dog is there. He goes, he’s a better actor. He acts like he loves me because he wants food. I’m like, what a great what a great what a but he meant it.
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Like, you knew he wasn’t, like, some fucking douchey poser. Like, he was really this guy.
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Well, that’s why he was so good. But he was also good before anybody was good. He was the first actor that was, like, acting like a real person
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02:18:04
Yes.
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In movies. Whereas, like, every other actor was, like, hey, stay away from my girl. See?
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I can’t watch old stuff. And and look, I’ll acknowledge Ai stink. I know. I stink. So I can’t judge other people’s. I’m not gonna judge James Cagney or fucking Humphrey.
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Cagney is a good example.
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But you watch them and you’re, like, they were so, like, Victor Mature. They’re, like, Tommy, why don’t you cut it out, Tommy? Yeah. And then you see Bryden, Ai can’t watch the old stuff. It’s just
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Yeah.
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Theater acting or something.
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02:18:31
Right. On film. He was the first guy that figured out how to be real in a film. And James Dean did it as well. Yes. And then a bunch of other people now, you know, there’s a lot of people that do it. But nobody had figured it out. But again, it goes back to that thing where this is a completely new medium. Right? Like Right. It didn’t really exist before him.
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You know, he was ai one of the very first movie stars that figured out how to do it correctly. But there were a lot of wasn’t a long history of movie stars. It was a fairly new thing.
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02:19:02
Yes. And I’ve seen footage of his, his screen test for Streetcar Named Desire. And like, you know, Stanley walks into the kitchen and he’s just talking and he’s talking to Stella or not it might have been Stella. And he’s just moving and grabbing stuff and you’re watching him and you’re like, I would never have the confidence in it to to just touch and
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Well, I wanna see that.
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Behave. Can
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you find that screen test from Streetcar Named Desire? Is that it right there? Hey. Let’s listen.
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Oh, we got headphones. Gotcha. Yes. And this is even different to what I was thinking. The one I think it was in the kitchen. Maybe it’s part of the same one. Here he’s just putting a cigarette out in a fucking bottle. Yeah. Hold on. Go go back to that. Yeah. Action. What the?
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You did the plaster crack.
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Alright, Johanna. Cut out the cat in there.
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Oh, you can’t hear us. Well, you can’t hear me. I told you to hush up. Cut it printed. That’s all. One.
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Oh, so this is actually real footage, though.
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02:20:14
Yeah. And this is different than the one, but it’s it’s interesting to sai. These are outtakes. Yeah. Action.
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You can hear the camera.
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02:20:42
Yeah. But even the way she’s looking at him looks old school compared to what he’s doing. Right. She’s looking at him in a very strange way that doesn’t feel like
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Right. It doesn’t feel real. It feels like she knows she’s in a movie.
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Yeah.
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02:21:00
Good good looking guy back then.
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02:21:02
Oh, he was a fucking put a pussy machine. He fucked them all too.
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And then he just he didn’t like the fact that he’s good looking, so he became a blimp.
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Just ate ice cream. I mean, Sai love that guy.
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He got so big during Apocalypse Now. They had to film in the shadows.
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And he wouldn’t acknowledge that because they were trying to make it like Kurt had gotten fat and, like, was living that life of, and he wouldn’t do it. Yeah. Just sat there in the shadows.
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Yeah. What a fucking nut. But, you know, again, it’s just there wasn’t a lot of people like that. He would I mean, how do you not go crazy?
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02:21:35
He’s the only ai. And I can’t watch Shakespeare. I mean, I know he was the greatest. I just can’t watch him. And I watched him doing I think he played Mark Anthony or Julius Caesar. And watching him do Shakespeare, it ai you felt like he’s really saying these like, you know what I mean? It always feels so British, you know.
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Right. Right.
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What’s hot for a window speak? It just doesn’t feel connected to the person.
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Right.
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And I watched him. I’m ai, this is like a real guy actually saying this.
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02:21:57
Yeah. So he’s
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the only person I’ve ever been to watch do Shakespeare.
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02:22:00
Yeah. There’s an art. There’s a real art to acting when it’s just done badly so often that we hate most actors.
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Yeah. And it’s hard to do. And I I again, I I there’s very few things I give my credit self credit for, but I do give myself credit for recognizing my limitations.
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Yeah.
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In that area. It’s been easy to recognize when people have pointed it out, but I understand it.
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It’s also not an area that you really concentrated on nor were you drawn to it. You know? Right? So when you’re doing it, you’re ai, how am I doing this? It’s like if you get Tom Hanks to do stand up. And when he did punch ai, it was fucking terrible. It was ai. Because he wasn’t really doing stand up, you know. He’s an actor.
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But if you wanted to be an actor, if that was your thing, you’d probably be great
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02:22:39
at it. Do you know who was I saw they were shooting some of the, Will Arnett. I think Bradley Cooper just directed a movie at the Comedy Cellar. Is that him doing Shakespeare?
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02:22:48
He’s 29 years old here.
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Let me
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ai. He’s 29. 53.
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02:22:52
The noble Brutus have told you Caesar was ambitious. If it were so, it was a grievous fault, and grievously hath Caesar answered it. Here on the leave of Brutus and the rest, for
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02:23:06
Brutus is an honorable meh. So are they all all honorable meh.
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Come I to speak in Caesar’s funeral. He was my friend, faithful and just to me. But Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is an honorable man. He has brought many captives home to Rome whose ransoms did the general coffers fill to distance Caesar seem ambitious. When did the poor have cried Caesar hath wept?
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02:23:36
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is an honorable man. You all did see that on the lupacal ai, Rice presented him a kingly crown, which he did. Rice refused. Was this ambition?
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02:23:58
Yet Brutus sai he was ambitious and sure
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02:24:02
he is an honorable man. I still know what the fuck he’s talking about.
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Yeah. I don’t know either, but I believe him. It’s powerful.
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Yeah. He’s locked in. He’s locked in, meh, and he’s he’s really he understands what he’s saying. Yeah. He understands the words. He’s
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Right. I’ve done He’s living the words. Yes.
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It’s in
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his head. He believes it when he’s saying it. That’s that’s like the Daniel Day Lewis thing. Yes. When he’s playing that crazy guy and there will be blood. Oh. He believes it. I ram your milk. Yeah. Like it’s real. Well, when he’s in, he’s locked in.
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Craziest part of
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02:24:31
that movie is when he’s sitting there with the kid and he’s petting the boy’s head. At one point, it sai supposed to be his son. Yeah. And I’m like, as an actor, to touch a kid, like, even though you’re acting, he was petting this boy, like, the way you would pet your son. Like like, it was like he’s so comfortable and so in this Yeah.
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That you really believe this is his
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side.
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It was like, that was that stuck out for ram, like, the level of comfort you need on a set to do that. Because I’ve been on a set with a kid there. Everybody’s like, make sure you don’t curse. Make sure you don’t and this guy didn’t give a fuck. He just picks the kid up and starts petting his head.
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02:25:02
Ai, he’s gotta be that guy. And, you know, he would be he’s a method ai. So he’d be that guy for months.
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02:25:08
Have you met him? No. No. I haven’t either. Gary Old sai, I like a lot. I which is not exactly a stretch. Gary Old man, I think, is one of the most, versatile.
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02:25:17
Have you seen Slow Horses? No. It’s a Apple show. It’s really good. It’s a spy show. He plays a spy.
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02:25:24
Old man or Daniel Dhillis?
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02:25:25
Old man. It’s a new show.
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02:25:27
Oh, no.
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It’s really good.
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02:25:28
I haven’t watched anything on Apple. Like, I I I tried to watch The Morning Show, but I didn’t love it.
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02:25:33
Do you see Severance? Severance is great.
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02:25:36
Season one, I loved.
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02:25:38
Yeah. Season two got a little weird.
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02:25:39
It got it it almost got a little weird ai the way Lost did, where they were doing things to serve the kind of show that they were. Right. But I didn’t I’m like, what does this mean? Like, this is just crazy and weird, but they’re just doing it, like, to be Again, I I watch it, and I probably will watch season three.
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02:25:56
But season one, I liked more.
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Yeah.
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Season one was better. I think there’s some shows like that where they the concept is so out there. It really has, like, a finite amount of time where you’re allowed to, like, maintain that.
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02:26:08
Yes. And then it just becomes we have to get to season again, like I said, like Lost.
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Yeah. Lost is the best example. Because first season, it was fucking great.
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02:26:16
It was. And the backstory telling like, I I look at the writing in that. And, again, it was TV. They only had a certain amount of, leeway they could do. I their backstory stuff was great. The writing on, you know, John Locke and on on Kate and all these people. Mhmm. The way they would tie in their backstory, I thought was brilliant.
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But then the way they ai, I was like, fuck. You know, everyone complained about it, but I’m like, they missed what they should’ve You
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know what’s done? Fucking story or a great show rather? Mobland. Have you seen Mobland on Paramount?
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02:26:42
Who is wreck somebody it it was either Colin or Bobby was recommending Mobland. Fucking great.
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02:26:48
Is it? It’s fucking great. It’s a Guy Ritchie show. It’s fucking great. Who was Tom Hardy.
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02:26:54
Shah.
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02:26:55
Pierce Pierce Bronson plays the old mobster. He’s fucking amazing in it. Know, you think of Pierce Brosnan, you think ai a kind of a campy James Bond. Not in this fucking movie.
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02:27:06
Really?
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02:27:06
He plays a maniac, like a stone cold maniac, and it’s great.
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02:27:10
Did you see footage of Tom Hardy? I just saw footage of him still, like, submitting someone. Oh, yeah. He’s good. Black belt. Right?
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02:27:15
No. No. No. He’s not black.
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02:27:16
Oh, he’s ai?
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02:27:17
I think he might be a purple belt or is he a blue belt? He competes, though.
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02:27:21
I know. I just saw footage of him.
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02:27:23
But he’s all fucked up now. His neck’s fucked up. His knees are fucked up. Purple belt. Purple belt.
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02:27:27
Oh, okay.
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Purple belt. He’s legit, man.
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02:27:28
Yeah.
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02:27:29
He’s legit. I’ve I’ve watched him compete. Yeah. I was like, okay. And ai Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg’s legit. He’s real. He gets in tournaments. He he’s very competitive guy.
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02:27:38
I’ve seen footage of ai.
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02:27:40
Worth $200,000,000,000. It’s kind of crazy to enter into a local jiu jitsu match and, you know, risk getting spiked on your head by a plumber, you know. Some fucking some plumber who’s also a blue belt fucking, you know, suplexes you on your skull.
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02:27:56
And he recognizes you and his fucking account just got banned. Yeah. Yeah.
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02:28:00
Yeah. Yeah. He’s been posting QAnon memes. Ai
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02:28:05
And then he sees you and you think it’s destiny.
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02:28:07
And ai the way, he wear a he wore a mask up until the time he’s about to compete. So they don’t know they’re gonna compete with Zuckerberg until he’s in there with him, which is really a mind it’s kind of a huge disadvantage to the opponent. Yes. And you’re like, what? Because especially if you’ve never been around a famous person before.
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02:28:21
Right.
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02:28:22
And all of a sudden you have to and you’re also an amateur because he’s an amateur. Yeah. So you’re all like, what? You’re probably, like, blown it’s maybe the first time you’ve ever competed too, and you’re competing against Zuckerberg.
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02:28:32
It’s it’s a and but he’s he’s I think he’s a blue belt too. Right?
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02:28:35
I believe so. And let’s What belt is Zuckerberg? Zuckerberg brings in legit people, though. Like, he trains with very, very legit people.
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02:28:42
Volkanovski, I know, is training with him. I know he’s around Alex Star
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02:28:45
ai lot. Yeah. Yeah. Perrera. Yeah. He brings in, like, Dave Camarillo, who’s a top level Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. He brings him in.
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02:28:55
Bluebell. Yeah.
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02:28:55
Yeah. He’s legit, man.
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02:28:56
He blew his knee too.
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02:28:58
Yep. Tore his ACL. He, ai up getting I tried to talk him out of the type of surgery that he got. He got the difficult surgery, which is a patella tendon graft. I’ve had both my ACLs reconstructed, and my left one was a patella tendon graft. My right one was a cadaver. And the cadaver was so much easier to recover ram. And I told him, I’m like, dude, get the cadaver. Trust me.
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02:29:19
And his doctor wanted to do the patella tendon. He wound up doing that. It’s a long rehab with the patella tendon. But, you know, the fact that he blew his knee apart and still kept training is pretty impressive as well.
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02:29:31
Yeah. And I I’m in that place too, like, where I have inflam I’m just trying to get healthy, like, I’ve I’ve been seeing some guy. I don’t know if I need surgery, but I’m getting MRIs, getting insurance to approve MRIs. It’s a fucking nightmare. But I wanna get my my ankle, my hip, my knee. I’m all fucked up. What’s wrong? I’ve been fucked up for years. I’ve had, like, my leg goes numb.
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02:29:47
My right leg was going numb in my thigh.
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02:29:50
Ai you ever get your back looked at?
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02:29:51
I I did. I have to get again, I’m trying to get approval for the MRI for that, but they I twisted my ankle very badly a few times. Uh-huh. How long are
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you in town for?
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02:30:00
I’m supposed to come tomorrow.
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02:30:01
Okay. What time tomorrow? When’s your flight?
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02:30:03
First thing. First flight. Oh.
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02:30:06
I might be able to get you into Waze two Well this afternoon. Waze two Well is the local stem cell clinic. They’ll they’ll shoot you shoot you up with stem cells. That’ll fucking help everything then.
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02:30:15
Does it help?
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02:30:16
Oh, tremendously. Tremendously.
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Where do
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they shoot them? Tremendously. Right into your injury.
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02:30:22
Yeah. I got back. I got I’m a fucker. But I but I feel better now. I’ve been doing these stretches, like, the the guy that my my physical therapist recommended. And, I’m I’m going to someone who’s he gave me some anti inflammatory pills for a speak, and I feel a tremendous difference.
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02:30:38
Be careful with those.
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02:30:39
What do they do? Well, it depends on
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02:30:40
what you’re taking. If you’re taking a non steroidal anti inflammatory, they’re terrible for your gut your gut biome. It destroys your gut biome.
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02:30:47
Okay.
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02:30:47
It could be really bad. It can actually make inflammation. Like meh friend, Cam Haines, he was taking eight hundred milligrams of Ibuprofen every day. And I talked to him about it. I go, what? You’re doing what? And then I sent him some stuff that Rhonda Patrick had put out about it.
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I’m like, dude, get off of that. He got off of it. All of his pain went away. The inflammation was being caused by the fact that he was taking so much ibuprofen. It was ruining his gut ai,
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so it
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was creating inflammation. So to combat that inflammation, he was taking ibuprofen. And he thought the only way he’s gonna be able to run the miles that he was running was to constantly chew on ibuprofen. So he got off of it ai. All the pain went away. Totally counterintuitive.
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Yeah. I’ve only been on these, he said one week is all. He goes, I don’t I don’t want you to take them for a week.
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What is it?
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What is it?
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I don’t meh, but he goes, I just wanna see if it he’s trying to see, like, how severe the injuries. I wanna see if this does help at all. But he goes take them for he gave them to me for a month because don’t take them for more than a week. So I like the fact that he’s showing restraint.
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He’s like Well, the thing is doctors have a limited amount of tools. If you want to prescribe medication to somebody, you know, whatever the, you know, what whatever the the common practice is is what that doctor has to adhere to. They can’t step out of line. And the reality is a lot of that stuff has side effects.
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But there’s natural ways that you could deal with inflammation ai curcumin, turmeric. There’s a lot of different Right. You know, that stuff. That helps a lot. That’s legit, and it’s not bad for you. But a lot of inflammation comes from diet. A lot of it. A big factor.
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Like, I remember I talked to this lady who’s a physical therapist sana I had a a neck issue and she was ai, you’d kinda be amazed if you cut out all the inflammatory foods of your diet, how much it would affect it. I’m like, really? She’s like, yeah. I mean, you probably do have a neck injury, but I guarantee it’s exacerbated by the foods you’re eating.
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She sai, cut out bread, cut out sugar, and and see see if it has an effect.
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You know, I’ve tried to because I fattened up and I know it. Like, I I put weight on and the again, for me, it was a dopamine thing. I’m not doing the things I used to do. Right.
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So you need something to do that just ai give me a sandwich.
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Something. Yeah. You know what I’m gonna do on the road. I’ll have a pretzel.
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Right.
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That’s what my bane of my existence are fucking pretzel. Like, it really is. It’s not like I’m eating pizza. I’m not eating cake.
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All that shit is terrible.
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Sourdough pretzels. I
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All that shit. So our bread is fucked. And our bread is so fucked if you go and I’m I’m sure you’ve been overseas. You go go eat bread in Italy. You don’t feel bad at all.
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No. You’re not it’s not as bad.
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We’re fucking poisoned. I’ll I’ll play this thing because, Brian Simpson sent me this, and it’s very good. Hold on. Let me ai here. I’ll show you right here. But it’s all about bread. Ai Simpson sent me this, and he’s like, I think I’m done with bread. And I was like, oh my god.
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Like, this is kinda crazy.
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Ai I need my glasses? No. No.
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No. I’ll put it up on the screen. I’m I’m a I’m a find it though because he sent it to me. Here it is. Copy. Send it to Jamie. Here it is. It won’t matter if there’s World War three, but if if there’s not World War three, probably stay away from bread. American bread. You mean, eat sourdough bread. Sourdough bread is fucking great for you, but play this from the beginning so we could this guy’s gonna explain what’s wrong with American bread.
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And to me why I can eat bread in Spain and in I can eat Greece, Italy. No problem. Ai? I was gluten gluten free in fifteen years Ai been gluten free in, Canada, America. Can’t eat it.
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That’s because in America, what we call bread can’t even be considered food in parts of Europe. See here in America, it’s not so much the gluten as what we’ve done to the grain. About two hundred years ago, we started stripping the bran sana germ or the fiber and nutrients to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead.
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Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can’t even ai. Therefore, many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation. But then the bread wasn’t ai enough. So they bleached it with chlorine sai, the bread didn’t rise enough.
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So they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which has been in several countries like Europe, UK, and even China. Then we wanted to ramp up production. So we started using glyphosate to dry out the weed before harvest causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut.
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So now you’re bloated, brain fogged, tired, and blamed gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat. The real issue is ultra processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled wheat soaked in glyphosate. This isn’t bread. This is.
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Who who is that dude? What’s his name? Danny Durer? Click on click on his so we could give that guy some props. Dennis, Eckelberger. Echobarger. Echobarger. Echobarger. Danny Denny, d n n y underscore d u r e on, Twitter and Instagram. Do you
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know, I will never as I’m watching him do that, I will never be able to do anything into camera as well as he just described how shitty Bryden is. Like, I was watching him doing, like, he’s getting all the words proper, and he’s fucking he’s giving the information. He’s not blinking. He’s not twitchy.
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He’s just He’s not annoying? He’s not annoying. Yeah. He’s just giving it to you. Yeah. Perfect delivery.
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But that should be something that everybody should see. When Ai know that when I cut that stuff out of my diet, it it makes a giant difference. Also, I should sai, Joe DeRosa, who has this amazing sub shop in Meh York, and he’s gonna open up one out here in Austin.
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Oh, nice.
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Joey Roses, fantastic sub shop. Their wheat is all flown from Italy. It’s all, like, natural wheat. Ah. Yeah. And so their bread doesn’t fuck with you. And they they make it fresh every day, and they throw it out at the end of the day. You never have day old bread. It’s always fresh, and they bake it there. So it’s ai when he’s getting bread for his sandwiches, it’s the kind of bread that you get in Europe.
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Do you know? I think I I have to think you’re right because there was one time we had DeRosa on the show. It was in the morning show, and he didn’t bring us any sandwiches. I’m like, wait. Where’s the fucking sandwiches, Joe? How about a sandwich? He couldn’t.
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He that’s what he said. Yeah. And I was like, fuck him. Because then he did chip and he brought in sandwiches, but we taped in the afternoon. Yeah.
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And I’m like, he was telling the truth. Tell the truth. He was telling the truth about his bread.
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Yeah. When they they had a pop up out here at South by Southwest, and he brought over sandwiches. They’re fantastic.
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They are They’re very good. Unbelievably good.
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That is my number one my if I have a vice, it is Italian food. My my my big vice is Italian sandwiches, Italian subs, pasta, lasagna. That that stuff gets me. I fucking love it. But you you have to get it from a place that’s using, like, heirloom wheat. And then you can find places.
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There’s a
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lot of great restaurants in New York. There’s great restaurants in LA that use heirloom wheat, and you’ll eat their pasta and you don’t feel bad. Most of the bread that you’re getting in America is ai what that guy ai, and that’s why you feel like shit when you eat it.
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Yeah. I feel like shit most most of the time when I’m especially, like, just always tired.
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Mhmm.
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I finally got I I whatever. It’s the apnea. It’s a fucking you know, I’m an old man complaining. I just I just I I can’t breathe when I sleep. It sucks. Have
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you tried a carnivore diet? You ever tried that?
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No. And Ai meh I know that my fear of eating too much meat is probably unfounded. But I’ve no. I’ve I’ve done Whole 30, which actually Ai should weigh.
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What’s the fear? What’s the fear
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of eating too ai meat? Because Ai does cancer feed on meat? No. Like like, that’s what I was always afraid of.
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No. Cancer feeds on sugar.
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Okay.
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Yeah. That’s the really the the number one thing that cancer. Oncologists will tell you, when they if they’re trying to adjust your diet, some don’t, and it’s very infuriating. I’ve had family members that have cancer and their doctor tells them you’re gonna go through chemotherapy, eat whatever you want. Like, oh my god, don’t eat whatever you want.
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Ai, part of what is wrong with you is your diet. It’s a giant part of your overall metabolic health. But a lot of oncologists now will try to get people on a ketogenic diet because it gets your body to burn fat instead of burning sugar. Yes. And then it starves the cancer.
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They’re also they’ll try to get you to do, some some fasting, like intermittent fasting, ai, have a window of feeding where you fast for sixteen hours and then eat for eight, or you can only eat during eight.
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The keto diet, I never did it, but this is what a delusional idiot I am. When I was in Montreal during the pandemic, I I joined Costco, and I would go and eat keto chocolates. And I somehow convinced myself that I was like, oh, it’s keto, but I wasn’t doing the rest of the fucking diet.
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Right.
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But they have some actually good shit you can eat if you’re on the keto diet. I guess you’re doing it right. Yeah. But I would go there and buy all these delicious, like, keto chocolate clusters. Sai, yeah, that one I heard it gives you bad breath keto. That was what I’ve I’ve heard. Again, I just I don’t remember where I heard it, but they were ai, there’s something about ketosis fucks your breath up.
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I bet it does. Yeah. I bet it does. But just brush your fucking teeth and have a mint.
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Was it coming from the gut though?
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Yeah. It probably is. It’s probably ketones. Ketones smell terrible. Have you ever taken it exogenous ketones?
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I’ve I’ve never even I’ve heard of ketones. What’s an exogenous ketone?
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You can take exogenous ketones. It’s ketones that you drink, and it puts your body into an instant state of ketosis where your body instantly starts to burn vatsal actually, it’s really good mentally. Ai like I take exogenous ketones sometimes when I have to perform where I have to do something. So I’ve taken them before UFCs too.
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UFCs are ai the big mind fuck for me because it’s six hours of thinking Yes. And I have to think about previous fights. I have to, like, predict techniques. I have to see what’s going on. And then, like, we’re gonna when it goes to the ground, it’s kinda like my job is to explain particular submissions when it goes to the ground, especially in the early days before I did it with DC because I was, you know, the only like, when it was me and Goldberg, Goldberg’s not really a martial artist.
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So it was just me. So I would have to go, like, explain why someone’s in trouble and what’s gonna happen to someone who’s doesn’t understand, like, a a triangle or something like that when someone goes to the ground. And you need brain fuel. And so, ketones help a lot. Another thing is, like, I eat these gum these are gummies now, alpha brain gummies, but I always take some type of nootropic neuro gum or the this neuro gum has mints too.
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I’ll take these mints. Like, if you see me at the UFC, I’ll have those. I take these little, nicotine, pouches.
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What ai you call the,
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Anything.
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Pins? Are they what’s what are they called? There’s a word for those little nicotine.
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Oh, pouches?
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Zin. That’s what I’m thinking of. Yeah.
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These are different. These are from a company called Lucy. These are called Breakers.
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Are those do those have THC in them?
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No. The No. No. No. It’s just nicotine. This is all just nicotine.
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I mean, those. The No.
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These gummies. No. No. The gummies are just nootropics. Nootropics are, like theanine. There’s, like, a little bit of caffeine in these, and they like, one of the things we did with Onnit, we we made, this thing called alpha brain, which was there’s a bunch of different nootropics out there and a bunch of, like, acetylcholine, bunch of different things that have shown to have an effect on your memory.
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Yeah. And so we put together a a group of these that would all work synergistically, and then we did two double blind placebo controlled trials at Boston Center for Meh. And it showed efficacy. It showed that it it helped increase vatsal memory, which is ai your ability to form sentences and recall the word the correct words to use Yeah.
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Reaction time, alpha state, and sai it’s, like, it does work. And it’s not just on it because I’m connected to it. Like, I have no connection at all to NeuroGum or NeuroMints. Right. But but it works and I tell people about it.
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There’s another company called True Brain that’s really good. There’s another company called NeuroOne. That was the first one that I ever tried. That’s a that’s Bill Romanowski, the football player.
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Oh, yeah.
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He developed that because he’s having memory problems after getting fucking hit in the head for all those years playing football.
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Didn’t, I I as far as I’ve ever gone, what was that pill you it’s not echinacea. There was one pill you were taking shah was supposed to be good for memory. It was ai one of those things you get on the fucking shelf on the vitamin store, and I don’t remember what it was. But I used to take that, but I didn’t see any.
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Ai was taking it?
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Or No. Me. Ai see it to collect of you. Yeah. People would take ai.
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I don’t know. But there’s a bunch of those things. They’re real. Like nootropics, it’s a real thing. And a lot of people call it snake oil, and I understand. I understand that you’d be very suspicious. But there’s a the real and this is one of the reasons why, you know, like, I have a connection obviously to Onnit.
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We found the company together, but I don’t have any connection to Neurobrain or NeuroOne. Take them. They work. There’s real legitimate solutions that help your brain function, and they don’t seem to carry any side effects. Some people, they take high doses of some of them meh headaches.
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I think that’s probably just ai some people react very badly to caffeine. Some people, you know, it’s like everybody has their own different biological stuff, but try it. And the gum is a great one. Neuro gum is great because it’s a delicious gum. It tastes good, and it really works, man. I take it all the time.
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It helps your brain a little bit. Yeah.
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I take it before I go on stage. I chew neuro gum before I go on stage. It’s very legit.
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Do know what I wanted to take? Because Tommy’s got a big bag of it right there.
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And, again, we’re not connected to them. Right. This is just this is just stuff that works.
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I wanted to take because flying became such a, again, a fear for me again, like, in this phase phase ai my life, I don’t fucking need that. So I talked to Whitney, and she’s talked about beta blockers. I didn’t take them, but I got I I like, do they help at all to, like but I have a low heartbeat anyway, so I don’t know if it’s gonna fuck me up to take a beta blocker.
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But Sai
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Ai blockers stop you from getting anxious. Ai stop adrenaline. They still they’ll ai a lot of people, they get busted using them in, like, archery competitions a lot. They they ban them Sure. Because, you know, like, you’re, like, in the Olympics and you’re just trying to hit that bull’s eye every ai.
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Like, any kind of nerves or jitters is gonna fuck with you. But, you know, the problem is it’s gonna be something that you get you get addicted to or you you maybe not even physically addicted, but you, you know, you become dependent upon.
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That’s what I don’t want. And I think I’ve asked. They said they weren’t, but I I for flying, it’s it’s something Ai, like, I literally have to fight to do. Yeah. Ai. I’m getting a little bit better, but I Ai like, I just Anxiety. Dude, I’m a fucking I’m a grown up.
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I have to sit by the window and look at the wing and try I I’m really eatable on a plane. Fucking six in the morning, but just trying to sleep, and I get my fucking fat face pressed up against the window staring like I’m eight. So I I’m trying to get out
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of that. Well, there’s there there are things you know what’s another thing that’s really good for your cognitive function that a lot of people aren’t aware of is creatine. And creatine is really good particularly if you are sleep deprived. Like, there’s a study that they did that showed that if you take, I think it’s twenty milligrams of creatine, it has a really positive effect on your ability to maintain normal cognitive function while ai sleep deprived.
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Really?
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Yeah. Ai heard of it. Very good for women. Creatine is especially good supplement for women to take for some strange reason. But it’s, you know, it’s a muscle building supplement. It’s ai really good for helping you, gain muscle mass and and strength if you’re weight training.
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That was what it was initially used for. But now they’re realizing there’s a lot of cognitive benefits for creatine as well.
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Yeah. I don’t take any of that stuff. And I probably should at this point I take
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creatine every day.
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I take nothing. Other than just ai like my the little thing ram my heart and, you know, just You
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don’t take vitamins? No. Oh, Ai.
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I know. I probably ai.
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I take everything.
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I take b I do take b and I take one other one.
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You should take d for sure. You live in New York City. You know, you’re probably not getting enough sun.
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No. Definitely.
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Yeah. D is huge. Because d is a hormone. D is actually a hormone, and it’s a hormone that your body produces when you get into the sun. The best way to get vitamin d for sure is to be in the sun. But if you’re not in the sun enough, one of meh one of my friends who’s a doctor was in New York City when he was doing his his, residency, and he said they would do tests on people in New York City, and they found that they had undetectable levels of vitamin d in the winter.
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And he was ai, you know, this is has a huge effect on your immune system. This is the reason why people get like everyone’s, oh, it’s flu season. No. It’s lack of vitamin d season is what it is. The flu doesn’t thrive in the winter.
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The flu exists in the winter because people have a low immune system in the winter and then they start catching it and giving it to other people. But it’s really a function of your immune system not working properly. So you need d, and you should take d with k two, vitamin k two and magnesium.
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They all work synergistically together.
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I’ll remember it like hard. I will text you and ask you the same question. Ai, what are those things? Because I’m
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text me. I’ll I’ll tell you. But you should take that, but you should also take b. You should take b twelve. You should take c. C is huge. You you can’t take enough of it or you can’t take too meh. Right. C is great. I could take liposomal c. It’s really good for you.
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Yeah. You know, because it’s, you know, as you get older, man, you start thinking ai, these things are starting to affect me now a little bit. Not terrible. I’m still in pretty good health, but, yeah, you start to panic and start to think How
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old are you now?
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56.
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I’m 57. I’m almost 58. And, my body works great. And it’s really because of that. It’s just it’s a huge effect. I don’t skip days. And when I do, I feel it, you know, but I try not to. And I have a whole cabinet filled with supplements that I take. I, you know, I take a lot of vitamins.
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My buddies never worked great though. So it’s only guys I don’t see any real drop off.
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Yeah. Well, that’s the problem. You know, if you’re working out and you’re doing all these different things and you want your body to function better, just force yourself to do it. Get your wife to, like, make you a little packets. It’s really simple. You know, just lay all the stuff.
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I need two of these, three of these, one of those. Put it all in a package. This is Methylfolate. Put that in there. This is and all that stuff has a giant effect on your health. It is you wanna you want your body to function optimally.
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Yeah.
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And when I noticed the difference is when I eat poorly, when I don’t get enough sleep, and when I don’t take meh, I get that. I quit drinking, ai, three months ago. Little more than little more than three months ago.
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Ai, nothing? You’re not
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drinking at all? I haven’t drink anything in three months. I feel great.
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Was it hard?
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No. It was super easy.
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Yeah.
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It was really easy. You were ready? Yeah. It was like, I just there was too many days where it’s kind of hard when you own a club and you’re there a lot and, you know, you’re having drinks with friends and they’re like, ai sana drink? Yeah. I’ll have a drink. And then the next day, I’d be at the gym. I’m like, ugh. Feel like shit. Yeah.
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I’d be drinking all this water and taking all these electrolytes and getting a sauna on the cold plunge. Just trying to get back to normal.
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Yes.
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I’m like, why am I doing that? Well, in the three months of no drinking, I have not had one bad day. I have not had one day where I felt like shah. And it just confirmed what I thought. I was poisoning ai. Poisoning myself with fun. I was having a good time. Yeah. I was, you know, it wasn’t terrible. I wasn’t an alcoholic.
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I wasn’t drinking and driving or anything stupid, but it was a couple of drinks, a few nights a week. Maybe I go out ai wife on date night, have a couple glasses of wine. It was just at the end of the week, it’s ai you’re drinking eight drinks, and that’s just not good. It’s just not good for you.
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I can’t imagine drinking and doing comedy. Like, I I again, I quit before I started. I ai guys who are like, like, I can’t because I was not a fun drunk at all. I was a fucking crier. I was one of the fucking worst. No one liked me. You fucking piece of shit.
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Sai I Ai would But you got me
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when you’re, like, 19?
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18. I was 18. Yeah.
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You’re not even supposed to be drinking back then.
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I know. And people are like It’s crazy. It’s, oh, he was too young. He’s thinking but it’s like
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02:50:18
Try it again now, Jimmy.
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The the people would love that they wouldn’t like me. I was a cutter. I mean, who the fuck was that? A 56 year old cutter? Ai mean, how awful is that?
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That’s awful.
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So I was it’s the best thing I did because I I was I was not a fun guy to be around. Some guys are fun. Like, some of them, like, when Anthony drinks, he’s, you know, at tyler, I wish his fucking Twitter fingers were broken. Yeah. But I always would lock his fucking phone. But he is a funny like, he’s not an, usually an angry drunk.
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Right. He’s functional.
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He’s a functional guy. I was never functional. I was vomit. I was the phone, I should call the FBI. I fucking you know, I used to call bomb threats into my high school. I was fucking crazy. Oh, boy. I called, I could say it now. I mean, I called, let’s say a threat into the White House. But I was I was 13. I was 13. 13. That’s so crazy.
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What a crazy thing to do. The Ku Klux Klan. I called the fucking because I was like little lib Jimmy, and I read that there was a Klan book I read, and the guy was, like, a preacher for the Ku Klux Klan. So I called him I looked his number up on 411 back then. It was in the early eighties. Wow. And, I got his name, and I called him.
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I was like, are you fucking racist? And he actually talked to me. And he was, like, no. I got out of the ai. I’m not in that anymore.
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We actually had a con he actually engaged me, for about twenty minutes. I had a a conversation with with some clan. A kid? I was 14 years old, 15 years old. Wow. Midday. Again, that’s I remember calling for information. I forget what Just for him for doing that. Yeah. For getting out.
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Yeah.
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Got it. Getting out and talking to you about that on the phone. He didn’t have to talk to you about
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ai because many people did. Yeah. Many I I was a I was a I’ll fix the world on the phone. Thank God I did a fucking job. Do you
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know who Daryl Davis is? No. Daryl Davis is a guy who’s been on the podcast a couple ai, and he’s a, blues musician. Is he black? Yes. Okay. And he’s the guy that would convert the clan members.
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I know
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who he is. Yeah.
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And he gets their costumes. They give him their wizard costumes at the end.
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He’s just because he’s probably a guy who’s not and Ai I have seen stuff by him. He probably is just a good guy and and it’s hard to dismiss him because he’s not force feeding you.
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Exactly.
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It’s hard to dismiss anybody when you’re just when you’re not no one wants to be messaged at me.
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Right. Right. Right. Right.
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I don’t I I can’t in stand up, I can’t even do it. Like, my job is not to convert people. I want you to know what my life is. I hope you have some respect for it. Like, I’m just living the way I wanna live. Yeah. And I’m not out to tell other people they have to feel this way. Right. Because no one wants to be messaged at.
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Nobody. It doesn’t work. It’s not effective.
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It’s if it was effective, I’d probably do.
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Effective is what Daryl does. He just shows you, like, this is a good man. I must be wrong if I think that all black people are evil. Right. This guy’s, like, become a good friend. You have more for dinner, and then the ai, like, I’m telling you right now, I’m getting out of the clan because of you.
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And he did it to, like, 200 different people on a one on one basis.
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Where he gets to know them and getting beyond it’s ai we talked about before, like, anytime somebody is an asshole publicly, but when you meet them and you realize, oh, there’s a person here, like, it’s the way people
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are supposed to communicate. And this is what I think is so terrible about social media. I said, too many people are just become so accustomed to barking at people, just barking out into the abyss.
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Yeah. I have to stop myself from doing it. There’s been times people have tweeted something, and I wanna make, like, a cunt y remark. And I’m like, shut up, dummy. They’re not talking to you.
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Exactly.
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Mind your fucking business. I really do say that to myself. Mind your business, you fucking hen. You know what I mean?
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Sai people do it, I think that guy’s mentally ill. Like, you’re engaging with these people. You’re yelling at these people on Twitter. You’re mentally ill.
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Yeah. Like, I don’t care what other people like, I care what people think about me in the sense that I want them to think I’m funny, and Ai want them to to of course, we all wanna be ai, but I don’t care what people’s opinions on The Middle East. Sai don’t give a shit.
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They’re not gonna change their opinions.
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And I don’t need them to agree with mine. Like, I have enough confidence in my own brain. Yeah. That I ram not always right, but I’m always comfortable in my opinions. And I’m not afraid of somebody I’m okay being wrong too.
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Right.
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Like, I don’t need, I don’t I don’t need the power of agreement from somebody. It’s just Good for you. But but it’s only because I I’ve tried it in my life and it hasn’t worked.
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Right.
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It doesn’t make you happy when you get it. No. It only makes you angry.
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It doesn’t work. It’s not it’s a terrible way to communicate. Yeah.
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It is.
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Jimmy, I love you to death.
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I love you too, Joe. Thank you, buddy. Ai was
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great to see you.
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Yes, sir. And can I
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tell everybody?
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Yes. The special is called, Unconceivable. I kept forgetting the name, and it’s not a misspelling. Unconceivable is actually a word in English language, and it does ai of fit. And, the podcast is Jim Norton Can’t Save You. Both are on at Jim Norton Comedy at YouTube. And I’m really happy with this speak. Ai, nice.
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I I would say that anyway, I’m not gonna come up here and shah ai own special. I’m not that self destructive. But I actually really was happy with
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this one. Beautiful. So I hope you like it. Alright. Thanks, pal. Bye, everybody ai.
