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Dr. Mary Talley Bowden is a board-certified Otolaryngologist, Sleep Medicine specialist, and founder of BreatheMD: a direct-care ENT practice in Houston, Texas. In addition, she is a senior fellow with the Independent Medical Alliance (formerly FLCCC), the founder of Americans for Health Freedom, and also serves on the board of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation.www.breathemd.org
Dangerous Misinformation: The Virus, the Treatments, and the Lies
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#2335 – Dr. Mary Talley Bowden Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the podcast, Joe Rogan hosts a guest who is a solo physician with a background in ear, nose, and throat medicine. The discussion centers around the COVID-19 pandemic, the response to it, and the controversies surrounding vaccines, particularly the mRNA COVID vaccines. The guest shares her experiences and challenges faced during the pandemic, including her skepticism about the vaccines’ efficacy and safety, especially for pregnant women and children. She highlights the issues with the rushed vaccine rollout and the lack of transparency from pharmaceutical companies and health organizations.
Key points discussed include the guest’s use of alternative treatments like monoclonal antibodies and ivermectin, which she claims were effective in treating COVID-19 patients. She criticizes the suppression of these treatments and the push for vaccines, attributing it to financial and political motives rather than science. The guest also shares her personal journey of being ostracized and attacked for her views, leading to legal battles and professional challenges.
The episode touches on broader themes of mistrust in the healthcare system, the influence of pharmaceutical companies, and the need for medical freedom and transparency. The guest advocates for the removal of the COVID vaccine from the market, citing safety concerns and the need for more research on vaccine injuries.
Overall, the episode emphasizes the importance of questioning mainstream narratives, the role of money and power in healthcare decisions, and the need for individuals to advocate for their health and well-being.
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#2335 – Dr. Mary Talley Bowden Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Showing ai, Joe Rogan podcast, ai night, all day.
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Alright. Very nice to meet you.
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Nice to
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meet you. I have, I saw you on the Danny Jones podcast, and, I’ve, read a lot of your tweets and Twitter and, just the the entire ordeal that you’ve been through since, the beginning of COVID. And so I felt like
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it could
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be very educational for people to, hear your perspective.
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Well, I appreciate you continuing to talk about COVID because, I think a lot of people are sick of it. I’m certainly ready to move on.
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But I am too. But with god. It’s just people need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
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Exactly. You know? Nothing’s happened, really. Nothing’s been corrected.
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No. Not only has nothing been corrected. I was just watching an argument on television where they were trying to argue for vaccinating women who are pregnant.
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Ai. It’s insane. I mean, there’s a there’s a golden rule of pregnancy. Right? You don’t you don’t experiment on pregnant women. You don’t experiment on an unborn child.
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You’re not even supposed to eat sushi.
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Exactly. Right. But we’re gonna put this modified mRNA technology into these women who, you know, early treatment. We have early treatment. COVID is no longer a threat. We’re dealing you know, at one point, it was more than a cold, but not now. Why why in the world would we give them to pregnant women or children?
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The only thing that makes sense is money.
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Right. Well, it’s the only way and ego and
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Ego, meaning because they’ve already recommended it because they don’t want to admit that it’s not effective.
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They don’t want to admit their side effects.
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I mean, we have we have hard facts showing it should be pulled off the market. I mean, any other product would have been pulled a long time ago. If this were an antibiotic and we’d seen all of the the carnage from an antibiotic, it would have been yanked off long ago. It should have been yanked off in the month. There just there’s no other explanation than there’s just there’s fraud, there’s corruption, there’s ego, there’s money. But it’s not science.
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No. And there’s a lot of people that, for whatever reason, they have this very rigid ideology that the pharmaceutical drug companies are to be trusted, and we should trust the science and that all these organizations, whether it’s the FDA or what whatever it is that’s connected to these assertions, they should be trusted, not just the average doctor who’s talking about these side effects and all these different things that they’re experiencing with their their patients.
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Yeah. I mean, I trusted them when when the pandemic started. I mean, I didn’t think that the shots would work necessarily, but I trusted them. I didn’t think they were going to hurt us.
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Why didn’t you think they would work?
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Because they were rushed to the market. I knew the flu shots were already iffy. We’re dealing with a virus that mutates. We’ve never been able to vaccinate against a cold, which, you know, it’s a rapidly mutating virus. It’s it’s it’s been tried before, and they’ve it’s failed.
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But if you don’t mind, please tell everybody what your background is in in medicine.
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Yeah. Ai practice, solo physician. I’m not head of the Mayo Clinic. I’m just a, you know, neighborhood ear, nose, and throat doctor that sorta got tangled up in this inadvertently. And I always thought when when the pandemic started, I thought, well, this will be the hospital. This will be a chaos in the hospitals.
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I never envisioned getting wrapped up in this at all. I, you know, I trained at Stanford, and then I I moved to Texas after residency. And then I I worked in a small private practice for seven, eight years. Then I started having a bunch of children, and I pretty much gave up medicine.
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Sana I I took a seven year sabbatical. I wasn’t even sure I was gonna go back, but then I just had this itch that needed to be scratched, and I opened up a solo practice six months before the pandemic started.
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Oh, boy. Yeah. What ai.
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I know. Ai? Why did I do it? You could’ve been out. I know.
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Yeah. Well, sometimes the universe has a calling for people. You
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know? It’s been a very interesting journey. I mean
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So take us through what happened with you at the very beginning. Like, so COVID COVID starts making its way across the world.
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Yeah. So I had people coming in with respiratory tract infections that were stubborn. They were not, you know, the typical colds. And, there was all this, you know, news that there’s this virus from China. But, you know, you watch something on the news, you think, oh, you know, that’s not gonna really affect me.
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But, you know, I started having more and more patients coming in. And at I really didn’t know what to do. I just used common sense. I mean, I treated the symptoms. I used breathing treatments. I I covered for secondary infection with antibiotics. Used steroids, that sort of thing.
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And I had success, but I didn’t have a lot of people, you know, showing up at my doorstep to treat me for COVID. But I did start having people wanting to get tested. And you might remember that LabCorp was the lab in the country to offer the test, and they just got completely slammed.
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So it took two weeks to get the results back. We were already work I was already working with a lab for patients with chronic sinusitis who they were doing PCR testing for chronic sinusitis, so test for bacterial and fungal infections of the sinuses. It’s called Ai, and they came out with a saliva test for COVID. So and we were able to get the results back the next day.
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So I started offering that, and my little clinic exploded because and I’m located in the strip mall, which is is very purposeful. I’m I’m very close to the medical center, which is, you know, to get your doctor’s office. It’s a a ten minute, navigation of the parking garage and another ten minute walk to the office.
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And so I was trying to locate my office where it was very easy to get in and out of. And then that served me very well during the pandemic because with these saliva tests, you could just take the cup to somebody’s car. They could spit in the cup. They could leave it outside. It was contact free. You didn’t have to even shoved up your nose.
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And then we got the results back the next sai, and so that sort of made me put me on the map, in my little neighborhood. And And then I started tracking, you know, who when the vaccines came out, I started tracking who was positive, you know, by their vaccination status. And so I started noticing that the vaccine wasn’t working, and that’s sort of what got me in trouble. I also started giving, monoclonal antibodies, and I didn’t ration them.
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So I became known in town as a place you could get monoclonal antibodies without, you know, having to pass you know, being a certain race or a certain age or that sort of thing.
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What what do you think that was all about?
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Yeah. I I don’t know. But the monoclonal antibodies is very frustrating to me. They worked very well. They were not controversial. People would turn around the next day. But and when they came out, I could get as many doses as I wanted. I mean, they show up at my doorstep the next day, and it was great.
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I mean, that’s that’s that also sort of put me on the map with COVID. And then I didn’t even use ivermectin until the government took over distribution of monoclonal antibodies, and then it became harder and harder to get them. And that’s when I turned to ivermectin. But, you know, in my opinion, they did that on purpose.
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They they did that to encourage people to take the the COVID shot. It was very orchestrated. If you look at the timing, the, you know, in March, the government put out the big information on ivermectin and why you should not take it for COVID. They put that on the FDA’s website. At the same time, they launched COVID nineteen community core, and this was 04/01/2021.
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This was an $11,500,000,000 slush fund to propaganda to, you know, feed out propaganda and censor people. And the day that they launched the COVID nineteen community corps was the same day that Houston Methodist, which is where I had privileges, they, mandated the COVID shots for all their employees, and they were the in the country.
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And that’s sort of how I got tangled up in all this because I had privileges there. And then I I was actually working with them. I was doing research with them. I was sharing my data with them to try to get it published. But then I started questioning, you know, the the the vaccine and how it wasn’t working. I brought it to their attention and they gaslit meh.
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And they just said, well, it just it lowers severity. And when they when they ignored me, then I started speaking out on social media, and that’s how that’s what got me in trouble. But so that summer, 02/2021, that’s when the and the largest surge of the pandemic arya. And this was after the rollout of the wonderful COVID shots that were promised to stop transmission and prevent death and obviously didn’t. And the government was getting frustrated.
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So they doubled down on their ivermectin attack, and this was August 2021. They put out the infamous horse tweet, said, seriously, y’all, you’re not a horse. You’re not a cow. Stop it. A tweet went viral. It had dire consequences, in my opinion.
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And then, they approved they fully approved the COVID shot, and then Biden mandated for, for employers with a 100 more employees. And that was right when they took he down. So it was all very coordinated. Oh, and then and then, the the final straw was taking away monoclonal antibodies, they said.
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Sai
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Yeah. That was the more fascinating thing about it to me is I listed a bunch of different things that I took, including monoclonal antibodies, but they only concentrated on ivermectin. Mhmm. But the the way they did it was, like, so transparent, like, changing the color of my face on CNN and everywhere this concerted effort to call it horse dewormer.
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It was they just try to make it look as preposterous as possible without ever explaining that it’s been used more than multiple billions of times prescribed to human beings.
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Yeah. I mean, they they branded you. When I think of you, I think of that that picture of you where you’re slightly green. And I I honestly, it, yeah. With ivermectin, I was nervous about using it because of all the ai. Yeah. And because monoclonal work on a because monoclonal has worked so ai, I was like, well, this is not gonna live you know, this is not gonna work.
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I was nervous. But the thing I did was dug into the safety, and anybody could do that, which is a minimal amount of effort. You can go to the FDA website, and you can find the toxicity ai is. And l d fifty means, how many animal fifty what dose would kill fifty percent of lab animals?
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So for ivermectin, it kinda depends on the ram, the I mean, the type of animal and the gender. But it’s basically ten milligrams per kilogram up to eighty milligrams per kilogram. So for COVID, we’re using point four milligrams per kilogram. So I I knew that we were not worried about, you know, killing people with it.
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And then you I did a literature search, and I looked for accidental intentional overdoses for ivermectin, and I couldn’t find a single study. Whereas you do that for Tylenol, I mean, thousands thousands of reports. So once I knew it was safe, then I started using it, and then I found it worked.
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And then, yeah, all in all, I treated well over 6,000 patients, and everybody that got early treatment stayed out of the hospital. Also had patients come in that were really sick in the speak. And that that was such a learning experience for me because, you know, normally if somebody walked into my office with an oxygen saturation in the low 80s, I would call an ambulance.
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But I had patients who would refusing to go to the hospital, and I had to give them the option to possibly die in my office, which is scary. But we saved them. I mean, we we just threw threw the kitchen sink at them, and we didn’t have monoclonal antibodies. So we did we brought them in every day. We did IV steroids. We did IV antibiotics. We gave them home oxygen. We gave them high dose of ivermectin.
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We did everything we could, and it was amazing. I mean, they survived. It was, very gratifying.
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So you think it was probably a combination of all the different medications and all the different treatments?
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You know, I I would vary my approach depending on the severity, the comorbidities. I mean, it’s it’s an art, not a you know, a protocol. It’s a guideline. Right? But every patient is sort of individual. And so for the patients you know, the one patient I’m thinking of, I mean, he had history of two heart attacks.
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He had a history of throat cancer. He he came in with an oxygen level. It was below 80. I can’t remember what exactly what it was. But, I mean, so I just did everything. You know? I took everything that I could and and gave it to him, and it worked.
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But and I had a few people like that. But, you know, the if a, you know, a 20 year old came in, I’d probably just give him some ivermectin and, you know, it just depends.
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Why did you decide to try ivermectin even though there was all this negative propaganda?
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Well, because I had patients coming to see me who needed help. I mean, I just wasn’t going to shut my door. I’d already established Ai could help people with monoclonal antibodies, So I still had people coming to me seeking help, and I just didn’t have the heart to say no. And I knew it was safe. So I I knew that, you know, it was a little bit iffy, but I knew it was safe.
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And there was good data showing it worked. It’s just, you know, one thing, you can find a a study to support any argument you want in medicine. I learned that in residency. All residents learn that. We have we have something called journal club where you sit down once a week and you pour through different articles.
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And the takeaway is most articles are, you know, crap. They’re not they’re not they’re ram they’re low power or they’re they’re, conflicts of interest or, you know, they’re not they’re designed poorly. So, you know, my mindset coming into the pandemic was, you know, the the research, the journals arya starting point, but it’s not the final say is your your own clinical experience and what you’re seeing.
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And, you know, we had never seen COVID before. This is a brand new entity. So we’re learning on the fly, but, you know, I’ve never treated this many patients with a single disease in my career. I’m sure I never will again, and so you quickly become an expert. And, you know, doctor Ai can’t speak for all doctors, but we like to do well.
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We like our patients to get better. It’s gratifying. That’s how sort of how you get job satisfaction is seeing your patients do well. So why would I, you know, continue to have, you know, COVID patients come in if I couldn’t help them? And it’s astounding to me that the doctors in the hospitals just didn’t pivot, didn’t try new things.
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And Sai guess they were handcuffed by, you know, the hospital administrators, but it just seems to me that, yeah, there was a a doctor in in Houston, Joe Saloni, who I’m pretty good friends with, who a critical care doctor, and he was one of the founders of FLCCC, which is sort of the they developed the original protocols for ivermectin.
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And doctor Varon had much better success than most other doctors. His overall success rate was four point four percent of his patients died, whereas in other hospitals, average around twenty percent. And he did. He threw the kitchen sink at them at people, and he he basically followed this FLCCC hospital protocol.
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So when the monoclonal antibodies were suppressed, what what was the messaging? Like, what did they say to doctors?
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They said that the the strain of the virus was no longer covered sai that it had evolved and it wouldn’t work. But
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At the same time, they’re using the exact same vaccine.
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Exactly. And they had switched the monoclonal antibodies periodically. So it wasn’t like they started with one and stuck with it the the whole time. They switched it as things evolved. But
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It was really clear. And the propaganda was shocking because we’ve all seen propaganda with with foreign conflicts, weapons of mass destruction, all that jazz. We’ve all seen propaganda. But when Rolling Stone magazine printed an article saying that people were the hospitals were overflowing with people overdosing on ivermectin, and gunshot victims couldn’t get in.
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And then they used a stock photo, which was of a bunch of people wearing winter coats in, like, I think it was I think the article was August Mhmm. In Oklahoma. Mhmm. Like, the whole thing was it was so brazen and sloppy and obvious, especially with in the age of Google. If this had all gone down in the nineteen eighties, we would all be in the dark. Mhmm.
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would have no idea. We would have, like, well, I guess I the ivermectin’s killing people.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. We wouldn’t have known until, like, 2030. You know, people would have, like you have been a conspiracy theorist. You’ve been a crazy person, like, one of those people that could tell you all the facts about the Kennedy assassination.
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Right.
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You know, with wild eyes. Oliver Saloni. You know, but it was so obvious and it was so confusing because, you know, I had had people on my podcast before where, you know, I had a doctors on and I talk about foolish people that don’t believe in traditional medicine. Like, people that wanna try different things. Like, are you create people that were anti vaccine or anti anything?
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I’m like, these are the best people at the front of the ai. Trust them. Five years later, I’m like, don’t trust anybody. They’re all compromised. It’s all money.
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And Right. That was the most disheartening thing. The propaganda was disheartening, but it was that the whole system is compromised. And then when I found out that pharmaceutical drug companies are they’re the ones that are funding studies and that they could have a whole ton of study.
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They don’t have to divulge all the data from their studies. They only have to show you some studies that were carefully crafted to show efficacy. But all the other studies that they had that even showed negative effects, they could bury those. They didn’t have they weren’t held responsible.
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Exactly.
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I was like, what is this? Like, what is this? It’s but it’s ai everything in the world when money gets involved.
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Yeah. That Rolling Stone tweet is still up. That’s Ai found it yesterday. So Ai believe it.
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Wild. Look at that. Look at these people wearing winter coats. Sai, apparently, this is a bunch of people that were waiting in line for the flu shot. Gunshot victims. So all those people got shot. What the fuck is going on in Oklahoma? They’re just shooting folks. They think it’s the ai West out there.
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Imagine if those were all shah. But look how crazy that article is or that tweet is. Shah victims left waiting as horse dewormer overdoses overwhelm Oklahoma. By the way, zero horse dewormers there. Zero.
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Well It
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was a total lie.
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Well, in a you know, even last Friday, Vanity Fair did an article on Maha and Cali Means, and they quoted me in it. And in, you know, in their description of me, they used horse dewormer. I couldn’t reporter for Vanity Fair.
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And she
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buddied up to me, acted like we were good friends.
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I learned a a valuable lesson.
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It’s so dirty. It’s such a dirty business. God, I just have massive respect for journalists. Yeah. Before if I had never done this podcast, I’d be your regular schmo out there with, you know, just spitting out all the company lines vatsal the blast all over the news. I kind of liked it better then.
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It was a lot easier. Ignorance is bliss.
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I didn’t think the world was filled with demons. Money hungry demons that are willing to sacrifice human lives in the pursuit of of revenue. It’s crazy.
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That’s why we have to continue this fight because people have lost all trust with good reason.
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With good reason. That’s why I’m having you on. That’s why I continue to talk to people like, stop with the COVID already. I get it folks. If this is not for you, move on. Mary and I will still be bitching about this for the next three years. Right. Well, you know, for me, it was just it was such a wake up call because it’s so weird to see your face on TV green,
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of all.
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That was weird. And then this term horse dewormer. I’m ai, why you guys aren’t concentrating on the fact that a 55 year old man is fine three days later during the worst strain. It was during the delta where everybody’s freaking out. This one’s gonna kill us all. And I was fine. In three days. And I made this video.
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I’m like, I’m sorry. I have to cancel the concert this weekend. You know? I got COVID, but I’m good now. And then the I had I didn’t think that was gonna be anything.
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I thought that was just gonna be the people that bought tickets to see Dave Chappelle and I in New Orleans. And that was gonna was it Nashville? Wherever it was. That’s ai it was gonna be. Those folks, they’re gonna be upset. I’m sorry. You know, we’ll make it up to you. You you tickets still count.
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That’s all I thought it was gonna be. I thought it was gonna be like a normal tweet that I put out or a normal Instagram post that I pull out put out. And then all of a sudden, I hear that Neil Young wants ram be removed from Spotify. I was like, what the fuck is going on? This is crazy.
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Spotify got calls from two former presidents. Really? Oh, yeah.
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What about
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Oh, yeah.
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Did they deplatform did you get censored or deplatformed? No.
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I grew by 2,000,000 subscribers in a month. Right. I did. Because because people started listening. They’ll because it’s they made it sound like I was this maniac. They started listening ai, oh, he’s really reasonable and pretty humble about all this stuff. Just asking questions and bringing people on ai doctor Robert Malone who has nine patents in the invention of mRNA vaccine technology.
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Like, he’s one of the he took it himself. No. He was reporting his insane adverse side effect where he almost died. He was telling about it, and they labeled him a kook for that. And
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What what made you so awake though? Well, that. Just just Ai.
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No. Well, Malone, Peter McCullough. But I’m I’ve always been the type of person that is, like, if someone is saying something and they have rock solid connect, doctor Peter McCullough is the most published physician in his field in human history. Like, this is a incredibly well respected doctor up until he took a moral and ethical stand saying that this is not what they’re saying, this is not what we should be doing, and then destroyed.
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Yep. They tried to destroy his career.
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Said a horrible It’s insane. Yeah.
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But the the man has incredible courage, and he was labeled all ai I would tell people he’s the most published physician in time, that you’d see their eyes glaze out like they didn’t wanna hear it. Ai like, maybe he’s right. Well, five years later, we know he’s right. Mhmm. We know he was right. He was right all along.
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I mean, the the whole so ram me, when there’s there’s always a bunch of people that are ideologically or financially captured. And then there’s people that feel morally obligated to tell the truth, and you can spot those people. And when I spotted a few of them, ai, okay. Let me hear them out. I might be the the guy that goes, no. This guy’s a kook, and he’s gonna cross people lives.
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Or I might be someone who go, hey, everybody. Hit the brakes. Right. Like, you might be getting bamboozled here and especially the the real concern with any sort of a new drug is always the side effects. But when you have indemnity, when when you have complete immunity for any financial liability like the vaccine manufacturers do, and all you have to do is label it a vaccine Right.
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Because that’s not a traditional vaccine. It’s just not. They changed the definition for mRNA vaccine technology. Before that, it was not that. It was a very different thing.
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We all had in our head, vaccines are good. That’s why they don’t get sued because we need vaccines.
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Mhmm.
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You know? And then then, unfortunately, I read Robert f Kennedy junior’s book, The Real Anthony Fauci. I was like, oh meh god.
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Did you what was your initial thought about the COVID shot? What was your mindset? Take it. Did you take it?
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No. I didn’t take it, but that’s why they were so mad at me. I was ready to take it. I I, the UFC had allocated, shots for all the Johnson Johnson for all their employees. And I showed up there on, a Saturday, which was the day of the ai, And I said, can you give it to me? And they said, yeah. Sure.
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Let’s, call the doctor. We’ll set it up. I thought I was gonna get a shot. I thought it was like a flu shot. Like, I’ll get that shot, and I’ll go do the broadcast. I was gonna do the broadcast. I didn’t think anything of it.
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I was not worried about it at all. And they said, no. You have to come to the clinic and do it. Could you do that on Monday? And I said, I can’t, but I’ll be back in two weeks.
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During the time that I, was trying to get it, and then in two weeks later when the next fights were, it got pulled from the arya. Okay. Because of blood clots. And then two people I knew had strokes.
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Mhmm.
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And I was like, hold the fuck up. Yep. And then I got real nervous because there was a lot of family members that were, like, really pushing it. You need to get vaccinated. Everyone should get have you gotten vaccinated? Get vaccinated. We all need to do our part. We all need to get vaccinated.
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And, you know, then I became a heretic. Ai? Then then I was like, okay. I don’t I don’t think I wanted to and I had a bunch of friends that had horrible side effects Yeah. Including one of them who is a young ai, was a pacemaker now.
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Ram. Yeah.
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His heart stopped beating for, like, nine seconds at a time and he would black out. It was wild shit was happening. And I was, like, I don’t understand why this isn’t on the news. I don’t understand. And then I’m, like, oh meh god. I’m the news. I’m like, I have to be the news.
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Yeah. I
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don’t wanna be the news. I like talking shit. I like having a bunch of comedians here. We have laughs. We get silly. You know, have a few drinks. Watch some funny videos. Crack each other. Have fun. Or ai, I like to have fascinating people in here. Tell me how the cosmos was formed.
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I’m not I don’t wanna be someone who distributes information to the masses that’s been lied to. That’s not that’s I don’t have any lofty goals like that. Like, I wanna be the Ai wanna be the one tells the truth. And that’s not what I do. Yeah. I’m just a curious person who talks to people.
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Was it hard for you to get ivermectin?
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No. I got it from India like that. I got boxes of it. I was handing it out to everybody. I think it was still up to somebody. To go
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to India to get their medicine ai US.
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Well, I that was after my doctor got it for me. My doctor got it for me. I think I fucked it up for everybody. I think me becoming the attack boy when they went after me. I don’t think they would have attacked anybody that didn’t have a large platform like vatsal. And I don’t think they would I should say it better. I I don’t think they would have attacked ivermectin the way they did.
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I think they would have just suppressed it. Mhmm. And it wouldn’t have been a public thing because it wouldn’t have got out. Ai think the problem was me saying that. The thing the crazy thing is Ai said all that other stuff too. I said IV ai. I said, Z pack, prednisone.
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I told them all the things my doctor put me on and all they concentrated on was this ivermectin thing. I was like, this is wild. Like, what is going on?
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Yep. And then I
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was like, am I wrong about ivermectin? Ai, then I started just reading about the ai to the the team that invented it and how they won a Nobel Prize. I’m like, okay. What the hell is happening? Like, this is nuts. This is so weird.
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Well, it was all part of the, you know, getting the shot in every arya. And, that’s they had to go after ivermectin. I mean, they launched a war on ivermectin. Pierre Kory wrote a book about it.
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Yes. I ai Pierre on early on too.
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Yeah. Yeah. And, I actually sued the FDA over that horse tweet, and we won. It hasn’t really changed anything. But so the FDA, when they put that information or misinformation out against ivermectin, they were really crossing a line because they’re not allowed to tell the public, you can’t take a medication for this or you should take a medication for that.
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They’re basically allowed to just approve medications and move on. I mean, they can issue a safety alert if there’s something that comes up, but they’re not allowed to really direct patients, and that’s what they did. And so we did sue them, and we won. And they had to take down the horse tweet, and they had to take down the misinformation on their website.
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But, unfortunately, as, you know, evidenced by what just happened on Vanity Fair, I mean, the brand of it being only for animals still lives on. And, you know, it’d be great What
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happened at Vanity Fair?
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So the reporter still used the term horse dewormer. Ai. Right.
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Yeah. Wild. Right. Wild. You’re you’re still be able to horse dewormer push her in 2025.
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Right. Right.
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Where when Chris Cuomo is out there talking about how he’s taking it for long COVID.
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Right. Right. But we would it’d be great if the FDA could issue some sort of statement Yeah. You know, saying that it is safe, that it is used in humans. They don’t have to say much more than that, but, you know, we could use a little help in rebranding ivermectin. And there are also a bunch of states that are trying to make it over the counter. I’m not sure if you’ve seen that.
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Yes. I have.
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17 states have had bills in the last legislative session trying to get ivermectin over the counter. Three have been successful, so Tennessee, Idaho, and Arkansas. Four, there is still in deliberations. In 10, they failed. But another thing the FDA, I believe, should do is make ivermectin over the counter because people are basically going to the feed store.
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I mean, my my own kid, he had some sort of scabies situation, in West Texas over the weekend. He had to go to the feed store to get treatment. And I, yeah, I did a poll on Twitter. Fifty two percent of the respondents said they go to the feed store to get their ivermectin.
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I mean any difference in the ivermectin from the feed
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store? I don’t know. I mean, I haven’t heard of anybody having issues, but it’s just unnecessary. This is America. That’s right. Be able to get the medication very
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easily. And there is some sort of an efficacy for some sort of skin infections. Is that true?
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Scabies is is one of the
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Yeah. So but you use it topically? Is that how it’s word?
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You can. I mean, for for scabies, actually, you can take it orally.
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Okay.
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But yeah. So we shouldn’t have to go to India. We shouldn’t have to go to the feed store. We should be able to just go to I mean, in Mexico India.
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He still emails me. You need it anymore, my friend.
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I don’t know. That ai worries me because you just
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I just bought boxes. I was handing out boxes to people because so many people were telling me they couldn’t get it.
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Right. Right.
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Ai so I’m like, let me just get a lot of it while I still can.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess it’s it’s probably fine, but
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it’s just unnecessary. People giving it to me at shows.
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Oh, they were as gifts? I carry around my purse. Ai, like, be They really rummaging for something. Oh, here’s my ivermectin.
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Oh, I know people that take it as a prophylactic all the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is so it it’s just what a weird drug to go after. That was on the World Health Organization’s list of essential medicines.
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Yeah. Yeah. I
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mean, how many people who had yellow fever and ai river blindness, also all sorts of different parasitic infections?
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It won a Nobel Prize.
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And it showed that it stopped viral replication in vitro. Like, they knew that. Yeah. And I remember when I brought that up to Sanjay Gupta, it was like, but you know it does. Right? And you can see the look on his face where it’s ai, I could he couldn’t talk about that.
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Yeah.
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He had to skirt around it and just do his best to but it was ai, this is kind of crazy to make an off label meh so taboo. Yeah. And then to stop monoclonal antibodies, just stop them. Well, you couldn’t get it. Criminal. My friend, one of his buddies was in the hospital, and because he was in the hospital, they wouldn’t give him monoclonal antibodies.
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Oh, yeah. If you if you if you cross that threshold, you you were not gonna get monoclonal antibodies.
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What is that about? Does that make any sense
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to you? They they did it by the day. Apparently, there was some data showing if you gave it too late in the time course, it actually makes things worse.
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How many people did they give it to that were too late?
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I How
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do we know this?
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Ai that seem like suspicious.
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It does seem suspicious because, like, why would if something if you you’ve shown something to be very effective done early on, wouldn’t you assume it would continue to be at least somewhat effective?
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Right.
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Now if you’re trying to stop someone who’s on the brink of death, which this gentleman might ai up dying and they they didn’t get it to him. If you’re just trying to stop and the you can’t do it because you’re admit you’re in the hospital because you’re admitted. Yeah. But you should have, like, crazy data that shows, like, after fourteen, your feet fall off. Fourteen days of infection, your feet fall off.
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You go blind if you take it. Well Can’t give it to you.
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And my theory is they probably had a massive inflammatory response because we would see that. The people who get the monoclonal antibodies, and they would just feel like complete hell that night because it was ai a little war going on in the body. Right. And then they would wake up the next day feeling great. I don’t know if you had that experience.
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But Yeah. I pretty much did. So, you
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know, the week of illness was the massive inflammatory response. So meh my thinking is the monoclonal antibodies may have just exacerbated that, but they could have counteracted that with with high dose steroids. And that was another thing. They gave these, like, piddly doses of steroids in the hospital.
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And what store steroids in particular?
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Methylprednisolone or Meh was what we typically use. If we were in
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the hospital ai I took? Is that the same thing?
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Well, prednisone’s an oral. They’re different ai, but, like, I usually do, Medrol dose pack rather than prednisone because it’s been shown to help better with respiratory. It’s not a huge deal. But, in the hospitals, they could give Meh and high doses of that. But they were giving very small doses of steroid, which is the problem.
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Interesting. Well, that that’s also one of the things that they talked about in the RFK Jr book, was that the studies that were saying that it was ineffective, the the studies were not using the protocol that these doctors were using. And it seemed like these studies were designed to fail.
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Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, like I said, you can find a study to support or Yeah. Or go against anything you want, basically. So I just relied on my clinical experience, and I just had so many people saying, wow. It really made a big difference, and I saw people staying out of the hospital, and it wasn’t hurting anybody.
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So but, yeah, a lot of those studies were basically designed to fail either, you know, the dose wasn’t high enough or they gave it too late, or it was heavily funded by somebody that doesn’t want it to succeed.
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Yeah. It’s it’s all very bizarre. Like, real it’s really bizarre to live through. And for you as a person who were was out of medicine and then sai, jump back in six months before all this, like, what is it like to have your world view sort of, like, spun around like that?
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Yeah. It’s just I mean, it’s good and bad. Like, I feel sorry for the people that don’t get it in a lot of ways, but I just never thought it would come to all this. You know? I I I didn’t go back to work to have a huge, huge career. I was just basically trying to stay busy and, you know, active and
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And help people.
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And yeah. And but I didn’t envision this at all. It’s been very impactful. I’ll say that.
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Yeah. What has it been like, like, having I mean, having to do this? Have I do have I do all these podcasts? Yeah. It’s it’s You know?
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It’s wild. Yeah. It’s not what I envisioned at all. But it’s been you know, I feel vindicated ai. At least Ai not embarrassed to go to the school functions anymore or show up at the sporting events or, you know, I used to be scared to go to the grocery store, because they just they came after me so hard in in Houston.
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I mean, Houston Methodist Hospital is sort of the the country club, you know, the elite of the hospitals. And so for the for them to come after me was a a big deal. It’s hard to get privileges there. You know, they their tagline is leading medicine, and they were very proud of being the hospital in the country to mandate the shots.
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They didn’t need to go after me. I mean, I was nothing. I was you know, I I saw a lot of COVID patients, but in the grand scheme of things, I really wasn’t, you know, I was not really doing anything.
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It’s the Streisand effect. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They they attacked you, and by doing so, they made the whole thing way bigger than it needed to be.
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But they did silence other doctors. I mean, I I hear from doctors all the time, and it won’t say anything because of what they did to me.
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Mhmm. Yeah. No. There’s a lot of doctors that I know that were in danger of losing their license because they had prescribed ivermectin.
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And that was another thing. You know, the the Federation of State Medical Boards, which is this private entity, they’re actually located in Texas, who oversees all the state medical boards. They sent out an a directive to all the state medical boards concerning ivermectin, concerning misinformation, and basically encouraging the medical boards to go after doctors like myself.
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And, I mean, I’m still I’m still tangled up with the medical board trying to clear my name. But they did that. That was it all happened in that February, right when Biden mandated the shots. They really came down hard on the doctors.
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So what did they do specifically to you?
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So I got several complaints, but only one of them has really stuck. The others have I’ve cleared my name on, but they’re all involving ivermectin. No patient harm. The one that has stuck is from a hospital in Dallas called Texas Hegaly Hospital, and there was this man, a sheriff’s deputy, father of six, who’s basically dying.
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They were talking hospice, and his wife wanted him to have the opportunity to try ivermectin. And he had tried to get it before getting in the hospital and couldn’t find a doctor willing to prescribe it. So wife knew he was okay with it. And so she sued the hospital, and then she asked me to come on as sort of the expert.
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They had to have a they had to have a doctor who was willing to prescribe it because they can’t force the doctors to prescribe a meh, but they could force the hospital to give a doctor privileges who is willing to to prescribe it. So that’s where I came in, and we won the case.
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And the hospital had a court order saying that they were going to give me emergency temporary privileges so that I could go into the hospital and give him ivermectin. Well, there was all this, you know, stall tactics. They were supposed to give me the privileges the same day.
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And and in other circumstances, at that time, because of the pandemic, they were giving doctors same day privileges. It wasn’t this lengthy application process because there was a a shortage of doctors. But for me, they made me submit my surgical case log for the last three years.
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They made me get three letters of recommendation. They made me fill out, like, a 30 page application. I got it all done in twenty four hours, and then they’re like, no. No. We’re not we’re actually gonna deny you privileges.
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So it turned out into this big battle, and it became very confusing because Ai had to go back to the judge. And, I finally got the green ai, though. The lawyer’s like, we can go. You you’ve got the green ai, the judge. We got the order. There’s no stay on the order.
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I Ai sana a nurse to the hospital because this is in Dallas, and I’m in Houston. Shows up with the court order, and the police, greet her and turn her away. There’s not a big scene. She she leaves, but she’s not allowed to give him ivermectin. It turns out they did get a stay, but our lawyers weren’t aware of it at the time.
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But this is what they’re going after me. They said that I sent a nurse to the hospital without privileges, and, I caused a scene, and Ai, you know, I harmed other patients by doing this. And it has been I mean, it’s three and a half years. They can’t find an expert witness to testify against me. There have been three continuances.
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They finally were awarded summary judgment against meh. So I’m already decide they’ve decided I’m guilty, and now I’m waiting for my punishment. There was a hearing about a month ago to find out, you know, what they’re going to find me with and that sort of thing. And I’m just waiting on that, but I do plan on appealing. It’s just gotten crazy.
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Wow. So the thing they attacked you with was what? What was the one?
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Yeah. For the medical board?
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Yes.
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I had had one pharmacist turn me in because we sort of got in a pissing match on the phone. And then This
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is in 2021?
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That might have been I can’t meh, but around that time. I had another I had, a father reach out to ai. Her 17 year old had history of a kidney transplant, and they were going to Europe, and they wanted to have ivermectin just in case he got sick. And I was talking to the dad and the stepmother. I didn’t realize I wasn’t talking to the mother.
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So the mother found out I prescribed him ivermectin and turned me in. But ivermectin is is, metabolized by the liver, not the kidney. So there would be no harm for him to get you know, Ai was having had a kidney transplant for him to get ivermectin, and he never took the medicine.
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But it cost me $16,000 in legal fees to get that straightened out.
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So this was your experience, like, oh oh my god. Like, this is a real battle.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I’ve never been in any trouble. I’ve never been sued. It’s Did it would
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it feel weird publicly yet? Like like, when you when you were saying you were having a hard time going to the grocery store, you’re worried that
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That was when Methodist came after me. So Methodist,
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They came after you very publicly.
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Yeah. They tweeted about me. They went to the I found out that my privileges were suspended from a text message from a reporter. That’s how I found out.
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I looked at my phone.
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I was like, what are you talking about? I did. I said, check your sources.
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I don’t
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know what you’re talking about.
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And then I
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go to my email, and they suspended meh, and then they tweeted about it. And it went you know, I had CNN, Washington Post going after me. It was it was it was traumatic. I mean, I was just a, you know, a mom of four with a small practice, and all of a bryden, I’ve got CNN calling me.
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Wow.
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So
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What did what was going through your mind while that was happening?
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Spent the weekend in the fetal position and a lot of tears, and then I was like, I was pissed. And I and I just I on Monday, I, you know, ai a lawyer, and I hired a guy to help me with the press. And I held a press conference on Monday. I resigned, and then I sued them. So and then I just have been working to try to clear my name.
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Wow. But it’s just it’s so hard to imagine for someone who’s never experienced what you went through, what that must be like emotionally to just get thrown to the wolves in front of the world, like, publicly ai people like CNN, like, where where it gets so weird because if if that never happens to you, you look at CNN and you go, oh, they’re the news.
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They’re gonna tell me the truth. That’s I thought I just automatically thought that. Or they’re at least saying what they’re allowed to sai. Maybe the government holds back some information, but they’re not gonna lie. And then I you see my own self on TV, and I’m sure but I’m used to being, like, attacked for things.
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I think the harder was is it you know, CNN, whatever. But it’s more just locally, like, going to the grocery store, going to the baseball game where your kid’s playing and, like, hoping you know, sitting in a corner because you don’t want anybody to see you.
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Did anybody ever bother you?
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No. Honestly, no. But you just feel self you just feel very self conscious. It’s hard not to.
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Yeah.
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Even now, I mean, I still feel self conscious, but it’s a lot better. I mean, you know, mother I had a Mother’s Day event ai school, and people actually came up and said nice things to me for once. So that was
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Well, that’s nice.
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That was nice.
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Well, a lot of people got red pilled, you know, to use the matrix expression, you know, where they they woke up to what’s really going on during I mean, it’s kind of a masterful job of propaganda over the years that the pharmaceutical drug companies have done. I mean, because most people aren’t even aware of how many drugs get pulled. They’re not they’re not arya of the high percentage of them. What is it?
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In the thirties?
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Well, yes. About thirty three percent. They didn’t they looked at it over ten years. Thirty three percent had significant safety warnings, on the drugs. And it took about four years for those to become recognized. I mean, there are drugs Ai used to prescribe that are no longer on the market.
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I mean Yeah. So yeah.
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Like I said, it would have been any other drug would have definitely been pulled by now based on all the adverse events we’ve seen.
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But it’s just very profitable, and that’s what people have to wake up to. There’s a bunch of factors. Right? There’s there’s the the primary one, which is a bunch of scientists that are really trying to help people. And they’re really trying to develop new ways to cure Parkinson’s and all sorts of other problems, cancer, and and these people are just constantly and then there’s the money people.
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The money people who take that thing and say, how do we give OxyContin to everybody?
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Mhmm. And
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then you have the Sackler family. Right? You have evil. You have, like, actual evil. Maybe they don’t have horns. Maybe they don’t have a a forked tail, but that’s a demonic thing to do. You’re you’re you’re you’re infecting people with essentially something that turns them into a zombie and it’s killing people.
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Especially But
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you’re gonna make a lot of money.
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In health too. Yeah. Especially in health.
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Well, because you’re so trusted. You’re sai it’s you’re coming from a position of authority. It’s a very different thing, you know, in especially in an area where most people are woefully ignorant. I mean, look how many doctors who are practicing doctors who are woefully ignorant about nutrition.
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Right.
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Right. It’s an enormous amount. Right? Yeah. Now imagine the average person who has to go to a specialist about something, and they’re being told, oh, you need Vioxx. Mhmm.
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This
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is this thing I’m gonna give you, and it’s gonna cure your ai. Like, oh, great. And then you fucking stroke out. Yep. And the people who made that drug knew it was gonna cause problems in people. They they in the emails that were admitted during the hearings when they lost or during the court proceedings, they they wound up paying a fraction of what they made.
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They made, like, $12,000,000,000. They had to pay I think I they had to pay 5, so they made 7, you know, with, you know, its costs and stuff. Stuff costs money. But Jesus, it’s it’s so hard it’s so hard to wake up to that. It’s so hard to, like, go, oh, wait.
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So they’re not looking out for us? They’re not, like, trying to make us better? I always thought they were the people that were the most wonderful people in the world. They’re the people that are providing the medication that’s keeping everyone alive. This is why our life expectancy is a 100 years old now, as opposed to just twenty years ago. Like, oh, great.
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Life expectancy has gone down, actually.
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Whoops. Whoops.
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Despite all the vaccines.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And vaccines are even their own special class. Right? It’s the gospel It’s a religion. It’s a gospel. I mean, we were it was never questioned in my training. Never.
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I would never question it. Not only that, I would not talk to anybody who did. Ai be like, get out of here. Ai not having an anti vaxxer on the show. Fuck off. But but after reading, Suzanne Humphrey’s book, and I had her on recently. Reading that book was ai, what? Wait a minute. What? And then just this can’t be true.
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And then just look at the raw data of, like, when the vaccines were introduced and also when hygiene was introduced and sanitation was introduced sana then massive drop off of the disease. And then at the very end, when it’s almost gone, vaccines arya introduced in almost every case.
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And meh we all are thinking, like, thank god vaccines exist because ai we’d all have polio. Like, oh, Christ.
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Yeah. It’s it it bothers me that I never questioned it.
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Never would have. The polio one blew me away. When you find out that that was the same time where they were using DDT everywhere and the people that were getting polio were people in rural farmland communities where they sprayed DDT everywhere. And it wasn’t just affecting people, it was affecting horses, and it doesn’t cross species. So it wasn’t the same thing.
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Clearly, something was going on, and everybody got locked into this polio scare. And to this day, I’ve had I had a friend use that to me in a text message to me about, like, look, we have to really appreciate that. You know, he’s, like, trying to make up for some stupid joke. And he was saying that we you know, look at Jonas Salk cure polio.
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I’m like, I don’t have the time. I don’t have the time to sit down and tell him. There’s a great book. It’s called Dissolving Illusions. You should read it.
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And then you should read Turtles All the Way Down. It’s another great book. And, then you should listen to Robert f Kennedy junior’s journey ram being a very respected and trusted environmental attorney who was applauded by the left to being some nutcase pariah who I thought was a nutcase.
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I had to apologize to him when I had him on the show. I said, I have to tell you when I heard of you, and I for like, I thought you were a kook. You’re this anti vaccine kook. I bought I was living in LA, working in Hollywood. Whee. I bought into it. Hook, Ai, and Secret.
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Everybody around me thought that way, so I thought we all meh. This is a sensible intelligent people think.
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Yeah. Ai I don’t think you can really convince people. I think they have to figure it out themselves.
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No. And they don’t wanna hear it. That’s the thing. It’s like telling someone that their spaghetti monster in the sky is not real. Like, they you don’t they don’t wanna hear it.
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Ai just can’t. Right? I’ve Yeah. I’ve I’ve just given up. But I yeah. But there’s hope. I mean, you you came around, and you’re not in the field. Right? And people, I think you know, COVID directly impacted every single American and not in a good way. Right?
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No. There’s nothing good about it. And The only thing good about it was a a shift in perspective. Right. And that it’s gonna be way harder to pull some shit off like this again.
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Right.
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People are not gonna buy into it, especially all those vaccine injured people who keep getting gas lit. You know, why do they keep calling it long COVID? How come nobody I know wasn’t vaccinated got long COVID?
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Right. Right.
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What is this long COVID you speak of? Is there a long flu? Is there where’s the long pneumonia? What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you calling it is it possible that this is a vaccine injury? I’m just asking.
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Well, yeah, I’ve been looking at antibody levels in these people, and it’s it’s alarming. So we have an we really don’t have a lot of tests for vaccine injured. It’s it’s hard because they’ll get the million dollar workup. By the time they come to see me, you know, they’ve they’ve gone through, you know, multiple tests.
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They have multiple doctors.
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It’s not really a million dollars, is it, the workup? Well, I
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don’t know. But I’m I’m exaggerating. But, yeah,
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they just wanna be clear.
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I don’t get confused.
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From some Vanity Fair account. Poor Steve Wormer, who claimed there was a million dollar markup. I was just
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saying somebody should fact check me on that. And then it
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probably was
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higher than a million, but, was like oh, so they get yeah. They go through the workup, and then they can’t find they can’t find a test to prove that they’re injured. So the doctors will put them on psychiatric medication. They’ll put them on sleeping pills and benzodiazepines and antidepressants. Literally, I saw a patient was put on all three.
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So the only test that I have found that does seem to correlate is this antibody test. It’s a spike protein antibody test. LabCorp has it. That’s where I send people. Quest has it, but they put the upper limit is too low, so you don’t really get a good sense. But it yeah.
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The upper limit of the test is 25,000. And and people that have not gotten the COVID shots, I’d say it ranges it’s usually under a thousand. And then people that have gotten the shots, I mean, it’s a lot of them are off the chart. They’re over twenty five thousand. But on average, they’re probably 10 times higher than the people who have not gotten a shot.
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And this is people who were you know, they were vaccinated four years ago. It wasn’t like they just got the shot. You know? Obviously, COVID’s not an issue anymore in terms of, you know, people getting sick. But four years later, you should not have sky high antibody levels, and that’s what I’m seeing. And that is alarming.
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It just suggests that there is a lot of spike protein still in the body causing problems.
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And haven’t they shown that the spike protein continues to be produced in the body up to seven hundred days later?
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There’s yes. I mean, that is that’s one study. There’s some you know, what’s interesting in that study, the antibody levels were really low, which doesn’t make sense. So I kinda questioned the whole study, but yeah. I mean, I see it. I mean, I see patients I mean, I still see vaccine injured patients coming to me for the time years later.
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Last week, I probably saw six new vaccine injured patients. Yeah. And they they they’re not getting any help. The the government there’s it’s called the CICP. That’s a vax it’s a countermeasures injury compensation program. They’re supposed to help these patients. They have denied ninety eight percent of people that have applied for assistance.
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They on average, they I think they’ve awarded 20 they’ve awarded 30 people, 30. Of all the vaccine injured that have applied, 30 people, on average, they award us, like, $4,000 for these people. It’s horrible. I mean, these people’s lives are just destroyed. These are not easy things to treat. It’s not like I can give meh an antibiotic, and they’re good to go, and they’re fine. I mean, they they’re very challenging.
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It’s, we don’t have a lot of guidance. I do see a lot of, success with ivermectin, but it’s slow going. It’s usually, you know, months of trying to to help them. And the government really needs to help these people because they there’s a lot of people suffering, and they’re they’re getting completely ignored.
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The other issues, we don’t even have a code. So every disease has a a numerical code, and it’s called an ICD 10 code. It’s what they use to compensate people for or the insurance companies use them, but also for tracking. So if you have you know, COVID has its own little code, and you can just dial on the code and get all the numbers.
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They don’t have a code for vaccine injury. They have a code for vaccine hesitancy, but they don’t have a code for injury. So all these people are just sort of you know, they’re getting all these diagnoses, but there’s no way to track them. It’s a big
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problem. Convenient. Yeah. Well, I would imagine you the the real problem with paying people is you’d have to pay so many. You know? That but that’s We
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can just print the money. I don’t know what the problem is.
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I mean, what will you what do you give them? What what if you find out you have myocarditis ai your life expectancy is greatly reduced, and we know for a fact it came out of this vaccine? What do you give a person like that? You’re gonna take
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Their life’s wages. What what wages that they would have potentially earned
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What if it’s Katy Perry?
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Well, so be it.
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You know what I’m saying? Like, you have to give her $2,000,000,000. I don’t care. What do you do?
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The vaccine companies can can pay that money.
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I know, but it’s insane. The the number of people that I that I personally know. What’s very shocking to me is when I talk to people that are pro vaccine, still pro vaccine, ai I’m gonna be very specific, mRNA vaccine. Still pro COVID vaccine that will tell me they don’t know anybody who was injured by it.
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Yeah. I
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was like, how is that possible?
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How many people do you know?
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I know a lot. Yeah. I know two people on pacemakers. Yeah. Two. And they’re young people. Somebody. Yeah. I know a lot of people that got fucked up, including family members. I know a lot of people that got fucked up. And people that don’t wanna admit they got fucked up, all of a sudden, they have this new cancer that’s spreading, like, rapidly.
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Yep.
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It’s terrifying. You know? It’s like, I watched the Danny Jones podcast, and you guys were trying to get, Casey Means Callie. Callie Means to talk about sai forty. Right?
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Well, ai thing with Cali, I I actually talked to him last ai. Just ai he will not go on record to state the COVID shah should be pulled off the arya. And that, you know, that’s the whole meh he’s the head of my Ai looked at
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that’s being political that’s trying to, like, appease too many people. What do you think that is?
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I can’t read their ai, but I think it’s I think anybody with a big microphone who is, in a position of power and who knows the truth is ethically obligated to speak the truth. That’s how I see it. I mean, I’m not a politician. I keep hearing the word strategy. But there are, you know, there are people Ai see I’m just faced with the carnage every day in my office. It’s it’s just I can’t ignore it.
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And I don’t understand why this is so difficult other than, you know, political. But it shouldn’t be political.
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It shouldn’t be. Right. That’s what’s disappointing because we thought that this administration come in and it was just gonna kick down doors.
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Right.
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Like, this is it. Epstein list day one. Who killed JFK? Let’s find out. What are all these fucking UFOs? You know, like That
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wasn’t on my priority list.
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But yeah. Ai. I’m a dummy. Ai was that was my number one. How ai if I had out of those three, give me that one. Give tell me the aliens are real. But they this political dance, this this excuse for that. So, I re really appreciated, Jack Crews ai of pestering him on that. And then I’ve talked to Brett Weinstein about that as well, and he gave a a breakdown of how it actually happened and when the original, kidney cells from these monkeys were being used to make vaccines
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Alright. Mhmm.
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That they inadvertently get gave these people this simian virus forty Right. Which when it gets into the human body can lead to rapid cancer.
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Right. Well, yeah, that’s one of the cancer causing issues with these shots. That’s not the only one though. Right. It goes into the cell. It’s supposed to not get into the nucleus, but it could get in the nucleus. We know that it can get into the nucleus. And then if it gets in the nucleus Well,
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at they thought it was gonna stay local.
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Right. Right. It’s only gonna stay in the arm. Right?
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It’s only gonna stay right where your arm is. Your body will react to it. It’ll produce the antibodies, antibodies, and then you’re good to go. Yep. And then all these silly people, you can watch them die in the streets and laugh as you step over them. I was smart. Right. I trusted the science.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Sai they know that it it that’s not true. It doesn’t stay local. They know it doesn’t dissipate within it was a small amount of time that it’s supposed to stay inside your body. Didn’t know that’s not true.
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Right. Sai, yeah, they have the they replaced one of the nucleotides with something that’s hard to break down, pseudouridine. They’ve never shown that pseudouridine is cleared from the body. There’s no study showing that we can clear it. So it could that could be why these people have these sky high antibody levels four years later, because the body might not be able to break it down.
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Oh my
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god. Oh my god. That’s terrifying. What could you conceive of would that would help something like that? Like, what what could you do that would aid the body in being able to do something like that? Is there anything theorized?
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I yeah. I don’t know. I wish, you know, Robert Malone would be a good person to ask maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Meh should
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come back on and do a victory victory lap anyway. That ai was torn apart. Yeah. They were trying so hard to make him out to seem to be a kook. And every interview he would do, he would be so reasonable, so logical, so fact based, and so knowledgeable. And they still they still he was a kook.
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He was a kook. I remember some fucking guy yelled at me and excuse meh. Yelled at me in Vegas. He said something about me spreading disinformation, then he said something about that idiot Malone. I’m ai, that oh, that’s a good place.
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Ai the inventor of sana.
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Or one of them, you know. I mean, it’s I don’t know. I’m sure this it’s not ai none of those things ever happen in a vacuum.
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I’m sure
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there’s a ton of people working on that. But he was one of them. Right. He’s a fucking brilliant guy. But so how did they find out that it can get into the nucleus?
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Well, if you look at lip if you look at lipid nanoparticles, and that’s sort of a that’s what otherwise, if you just put mRNA into the body without the lipid nanoparticle, it would get destroyed. So they put the they put it in the shell, the lipid nanoparticle, and there are studies showing lipid nanoparticles can cross the nuclear membrane. So there’s there’s that.
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Kevin McKernan is a scientist. He’s he’s on x a lot. He’s done a lot of work in that showing DNA contamination that’s getting into these, shots, in in addition to the sai forty. And he’s DNA contamination. Right.
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So there’s there’s and this is what the, Joe Latipo, the surgeon general of Florida. He has actually called for the COVID shots to be pulled off the market, and his his main argument was there is a certain amount of DNA that is allowed in any kind of these products, and we have proof that they have exceeded that threshold.
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So there have been, studies showing that there’s excess DNA in these samples, which shouldn’t be there. And that’s just sort of this hard line that shouldn’t be crossed.
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Where is this DNA coming from?
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In the production process, I guess. But it’s it’s pretty cut and dry. I think that’s why doctor Ladapo has chosen this argument to go by, because there’s just, like, a hard line that you don’t cross, and they have crossed that.
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And what happens if you get too much DNA?
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Well, it can integrate. It Yeah. The concern is, does it integrate into your own into your cell DNA?
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Are we gonna make mess
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things up.
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Monkey people? I mean,
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it’s Japan. Cancer, but cancer. That’s Right.
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Will you imagine if we made, like, hybrid people? They turned out to look like Neanderthals. Like, you know, like, we we injected them with something that twisted their their genes back. But just the idea of manipulating your DNA is so terrifying. It’s like, what what?
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In pregnant women. Right? Right. Integrating Yeah. It’d be one thing if it’s a 70 year old meh, but a pregnant woman
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Yeah. You hear that? These Integrate DNA. You don’t think good things. Vatsal ai immediately, I’m like, what?
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And these things are technically gene therapy products. They’re not vaccines. So
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Which is a real problem with using the same term. Ai not use a new term? Well, because then you wouldn’t be under the umbrella of protection Right. That vaccines currently enjoy where they can’t be, which is so crazy. It’s so crazy. It’s just hard to believe it’s true. It really is.
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It is.
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And so for a person like you that just like you were saying, see the carnage every day. Tell me what it’s been ai. Like, what is it like?
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It’s hard because as an ENT, I’m used to I’m used to fixing people quickly. So, you know, I I get somebody with a sinus infection, get them an antibiotic, they’re good to go. I get somebody with an abscess, Ai drained the abscess. They’re good to go. It’s it’s sort of why I chose my specialty because I like to see the results quickly.
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I didn’t go in a primary care reason for a reason. Like, I and so when I see the injured, it’s, ai, you know, it’s very slow growing, slow going. We don’t have a lot of research. It’s trial and error. These people are young were previously young and healthy, and their lives have just been been completely destroyed.
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I don’t have a big support system of other specialists I can send them to. It’s hard. I mean, I don’t feel sorry for myself, but I’m just saying it’s just very different from what I’m used to as a doctor. So I really hope that the government will step up and do something about this.
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Yeah. That would be a nice thing to hope to do something about it. But it would be really nice if some real research was done on what are the actual long term effects. If you’re if everyone’s looking at it from a position of we can’t get, you know, sued for this. This is dangerous.
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Like, we someone has to look at it and say, well, this these are the definite effects of this vaccine because it’s too meh. This is long COVID. It’s too much, oh, he got a a neurological condition that was gonna happen anyway. It just coincidentally happened after he took the COVID shot.
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Like, there’s gotta be some way to determine what of these ailments, like, specifically, like, when you’re talking about the abnormal antibody levels. Ai
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Well, there are patterns. I mean, I definitely see the same sort of things over and over again. So it’s not ai, you know
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But as you said, it doesn’t have a classification.
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Right. It doesn’t have a code, so we need an ICD 10 code for these That
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seems kinda crazy. Yeah. Well Imagine if that was the case with, like, herpes. It would be like, hey. Yeah. Put a damn code in there so we know what this is. Right.
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But there you know, I see very similar constellation of symptoms. I see patients with these abnormal tremors, which, you know, they can’t stop shaking even when they’re sleeping. They feel internal ai.
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Jesus.
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Or they’ll have, severe pain that you can’t explain. You know, you get an MRI. There’s nothing nerve there’s no nerve damage that you can tell. I’ve seen some very strange rashes, and, normally, you you know, it doesn’t matter what ai of rash it is. You throw a few meds at it, and it will disappear. But, actually, the only thing that I found helpful is ivermectin for these strange rashes.
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And you see pots where the blood pressure that’s the hardest, I think. And this is this we’re seeing a lot of this, where the blood pressure just drops suddenly with with no stimulation or the the heart races with no provocation. That is very common, very difficult to treat.
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That’s a good friend of mine. Yeah. He says, every now and then his heart will just jack up to, like, one eighty. Yep. And he has to sit down. And he just has to hope that this isn’t the last time meh breathes. Yeah. He just sits there. He has a heart monitor. He puts it, like, one of them wristwatch ones, a Garmin one.
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He just watches his heart jack up to, like, a 180 a 180 beats per minute just sitting there for no reason, not knowing if you’re gonna die. Right. Another friend of mine who was really young was a soccer player. Super healthy ai, super fit, gets the vaccine, all of a bryden, giant heart racing in the middle of the night, like, out of control, like, you know, like you’re running a seven minute mile just jacked.
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Yeah. Yeah. And he wound
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up in the hospital twice. They nothing they could do. It all went away. It stopped. It went back to normal after a while. But now he’s got this, like, terrible fear that he’s got a fucking time bomb in his chest. Yeah. That out of nowhere would just his heart would just ramp up. And you could say, like, oh, that was it’s probably a genetic thing. He probably had it already.
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He’s ai, maybe. But this guy was super fit. Yeah. Super fit soccer player.
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And that’s the athletes. The sudden death in athletes. So it used to be twenty nine per year, and that’s two hundred ai per year. Growth 10 ai.
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It’s crazy.
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Dropping dead.
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The rarest of rare people to drop dead in the middle of nowhere. The the the best athletes in the world. The people who are the healthiest in the prime of their life.
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Right. And I worry I worry about these kids because, you know, myocarditis, the primary symptom is chest pain. But if you’ve got a kid who’s not even speaking yet, you have no idea if they have my myocarditis. And myocarditis can leave a permanent scar on the heart and then lead to a lifelong increased risk of sudden cardiac death.
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And kid we have no idea if his if these kids have been affected.
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01:10:02
Yeah. And how many kids do we see dropped out of heart attacks in, like, high school football this year? Right. Like, over over the last four years rather. Because it was ai you’d see these articles pop up all the time. You never saw those articles. Or if you did, it was super rare and some kid with a heart condition that was never diagnosed, which does happen.
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Yeah. Sana the schools are now making kids get cleared by a doctor before doing sports, which I don’t remember that when we were kids.
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01:10:26
Wow. Yeah. They just threw us right onto the wrestling team. They didn’t check shit. They didn’t even see if you had a cold. Right. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know what’s better. It’s probably better to screen them. You know, they’ll find those undiagnosed conditions that kids can have.
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Well, I just think that I think it’s in response to what’s happened.
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Oh, yeah. It certainly is. Yeah. But Ai mean, that might be the good aspect of it. Right. Maybe some people will get diagnosed that didn’t have any idea that they were running around with a problem, and they can fix it.
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Ai is hard to diagnose. Like, really, the only way you can diagnose myocarditis for sure is to do either a biopsy or a cardiac MRI, which is, you know, most kids are not gonna be put through that.
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Right.
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So it’s scary.
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And it’s what’s crazy is this is all true, and yet us talking about it makes us both look like kooks. Like, we then will be labeled for sure someone will go out and attack us now and label us anti vax, anti science kooks, and this is what’s dangerous about this conversation.
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01:11:25
This is what’s dangerous about what they sai. And, you know, those people work for the devil.
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01:11:31
Well, do you think you’ll get censored on YouTube, this interview? No. You don’t? No. Because I was just on Jimmy Dore.
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01:11:37
Yeah. You have
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to bleep out, like, a full sentence of mine.
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I’m not bleeping out shit. I’m not bleeping out shit. Do you
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think it’ll be okay?
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We’ll find out. I I think it’s wrong if it’s not okay. If it’s not okay, I think YouTube is more reasonable now than they were, during the pandemic. And, I think they have a very difficult job managing content at scale where you’re dealing with, you know, the the amount of people uploading things is insanity.
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And they have certain things that they’ve tagged as being controversial because they were anti science or misinformation that it’s still there’s, like, lingering ones. What was the issue that we had, Jamie? We had, like, a old episode where there was something in the old episode that would have violated their rules back then.
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It doesn’t violate them now. But we because the episode was uploaded back then, what happened with that?
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It just had, like, a weird at the time, the penalty was, like, ai you had to do something, and so, like, they couldn’t take that step away. That was kind of the issue.
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But the bottom line was bullshit. Everything this person said was true.
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Mhmm.
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And proven to be true now. And now it’s a 100% fact. So now you could say whatever you want. Like, now if you say, hey, you know, super likely that that virus leaked from a lab in China. And now you could say that. Right. Ai, back then, you would get attacked. It would be crazy. You’d be called a racist.
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You’d be called the worst things possible if you just sai, like, the wonderful Jon Stewart bit that he did on Colbert shah. Did you ever see that bit?
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Ai I can’t remember.
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You want to sai?
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Ai oh, yeah.
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Let’s watch it because it’s really hilarious. This is, like, in the heart of the pandemic. You know? And Stephen Colbert was, like, vaccine or death. You know? He was all in on it. Mhmm. And so Colbert was, like, trying to, like, halt him in the middle. He’s doing a bit. John Stewart’s doing a bit he’s doing a funny bit. And Colbert tries to, like, cock block it.
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He tries to, like, trip him, but Jon Stewart powers through, like like the comic that he is. You find it? Don’t tell me it was taken down. No.
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There’s just two versions of it. One’s nine minutes. One’s four.
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Minutes. Alright. Give us this one. Alright. This is it.
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Ai I and I honestly mean this. I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has, in many ways, helped ease, the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science. So and that’s kind of Hold on a sec. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Listen. Listen.
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It’s coffee. I wouldn’t do
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that to you.
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I wouldn’t
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do that to you. I’m a lot of food takes, man.
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What do
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you what what what do you mean by it? Do you mean, like, this is perhaps there’s there’s a chance that this was created in a lab? There’s an investigation.
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A chance?
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Well, Ai I I Sai Ai I evidence I’d love to hear,
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respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China. What do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That’s just that’s just a little too weird. Don’t you think? And then ai ask the sai, they’re like, how did this so wait a minute. You work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab. How did this happen?
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And they’re like, a pangolin kissed a turtle. And you’re like, no. Ai you you The name of your lab. Wait. If you look at the name look at the name. Can I let me see your business card? Show me your business card.
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Oh, I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan. Oh, because there’s a coronavirus loose in Wuhan. How did that happen? Maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey, and then it sneezed into my chili, and now we all have coronavirus. Like, come Okay. Wait a minute.
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Wait a minute.
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What about this? What about this?
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Again. Listen to this. Wait a
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Alright. John. Oh my god. Oh my god. There’s been an outbreak of chocolaty goodness near Hershey, Pennsylvania. What do you think happened? Like, oh, I don’t know. Maybe sai steam shovel made it with a cocoa bean, or it’s the shah factory. Maybe that’s it.
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That could be. That could be.
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Colbert kept trying to get in the way.
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That that could be By
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the way, I gave them all tuberculosis.
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That could that could very well be and Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins and sai, like, you should definitely be investigated.
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Stop with the logic and people and things. The name of the disease. Wait a Wait a Building.
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Wait a But I it could be possible. You could be right. It could be possible that they have the lab in Wuhan to study the novel coronavirus diseases because in Wuhan, there are a lot of novel coronavirus diseases because of the bat population there.
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I understand.
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It’s like the same It’s
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a local specialty, and it’s the only place to find bats. You won’t find vatsal. Nobody’s ai saying why. Austin, Texas has thousands of them that fly out of a cave every ai. Every night at dusk. Is there a a coronavirus an Austin Coronavirus? No. It doesn’t seem to be an Austin Coronavirus. The only coronavirus we have is in Wuhan Yes. Where they have a lab called what’s the lab called again, Steven?
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The Wuhan novel coronavirus lab. I believe that’s the case.
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And how long have you worked for senator Ron Johnson?
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Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about Ron Johnson. This is not a conspiracy. Here’s the thing.
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You could be right.
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Here’s the
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You could be right.
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But this is the problem with science. Science is incredible.
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This is
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They don’t know when to stop, and nobody in the room with those cats
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He’s gonna do the other thing that we already saw. Yeah. The other thing we talked about, the Spanish flu, which a lot of people never heard that before either. They did what? Isn’t that great? That’s one of the best segments ever on late night television ever in the history.
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Emperor wears no clothes, and Colbert, thanks to Emperor, still has a fancy robe on.
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Well, this is the job of comedians in society at certain ai. And Jon Stewart, he held the torch.
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I didn’t realize he was enlightened.
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Well, he’s a very smart guy. He’s just he’s not a bullshitter. You know? He’s a very smart guy. I don’t agree with him on everything. But
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Has he come around on
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the shot? I don’t know. I don’t know. I haven’t spoken to him. He lives, in another state. But I love the guy. He’s great. And he’s,
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ai was my favorite comedian, like, when I was younger.
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He’s a great comic. Yeah. Very funny guy and a very nice guy and very fair and honest. You know, he’s he’s, you know, ai, the type of person who could do that on television in the middle of of the the shit, which is what it was. This sai, like, right around the same time where the government was where they made that remember that release that they had?
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They said for the vaccinated, you’ve done your job. But for the unvaccinated, you’re looking forward to a winter of illness and death. Severe illness and death. Severe.
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It’s crazy.
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Severe illness and death. And this was during Omicron, which statistically was a cold.
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Right.
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That was the one that was, like, the had the least mortality. Yep. So for him to do that during that time was very courageous. Like, he had to know, like, who’s but he just had to make it really funny, which he did. Yeah. He just he it’s so preposterous because it’s so on the nose.
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You almost think, like, if that was in a movie, like, that would be too like, it was ai Coen Brothers movie or something. Like, oh my god. This movie is ridiculous. Right. Like, there’s no way it would be named the sai as The Lab.
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Did he get smeared for it?
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I don’t think he did. No. John skirted out of that. He had a show with Apple for a ai, and it was really good. But then Ai think I don’t wanna speak out of turn here, but I do all the time, so I might as well. I think there was an issue with an episode they did on China. Is that the case?
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See if there’s, like, data on that or if there’s a story on that. But they stopped doing that show. So you had, like, a Apple show. You know, because Apple TV produces a lot of shows now. They have Severance. You ever watch Severance?
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No. I’m watching Righteous Gemstones now.
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Oh ai god. That’s a good show. That’s Oh my god. That’s that is such a funny show. I didn’t even hear about it until, like, this year. There’s almost too many great shows.
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I know. It’s hard to keep up.
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That show is fantastic. That show is so fun.
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I think it’s modeled after Joel Osteen.
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Is it really?
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That’s my theory. Yeah. And I I pass by his church every day. So
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Yeah. There’s something about those guys those guys that run the meh. Like, you gotta be crazy. Like, not one of them is ai, oh, that make that guy makes sense. Right. That guy seems like super reasonable, normal human being that’s ai, I like that guy. That’s I want him as my pastor. No. It’s always like some complete kook.
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In October, the New York Times reported that Apple canceled the comedy show ahead of its third season due to creative differences and execs concerns over Stewart’s coverage of topics such as China and AI. Okay. The China, I get it. Apple has contracts with China. Right?
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They have cell phones made in Ai, and they’re they actually have to we’re the story about that the other day. We’re read a read a story about the other day about how, the iPhone 17 is so complex that it actually has to be manufactured in China because they have the best manufacturing.
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So they must have some sort of a thing where you’re like, you can’t sai. Yeah. You’re gonna fuck it all up for us. Gonna fuck it all up for the production of our phones that we need till we make all this money, which is why we have more money than most countries.
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Well, I don’t see how John Stewart would be a threat to their revenue.
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I just don’t think they want him criticizing, you know, China. But the AI one is even more weird. The AI one is even more weird because it’s ai, don’t you think we should make fun of AI? Don’t you think there should be, like, something that scares the shit out of people enough till they wake up and recognize that this thing is coming at us like a freight train.
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There’s no guardrails. No one knows what’s gonna happen. And everybody’s ai, full steam ahead.
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AI terrifies me.
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It should.
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It does. Well, it’s
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because you’re intelligent. You know? I think most intelligent people are aware that this will be a change that is akin to the asteroid that hit the Yucatan. This is gonna this is gonna hit in some crazy way that, like, redefines what it means to be a human being. It’s around the corner.
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Well, yeah. And you know Texas, they love AI. They’re, like, put a huge amount of money into Ai.
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Oh, fun. Oh, fun.
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Yeah. Choo choo. I know you love Texas, but I I oh, it is not it is not what you think.
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No. It’s a lot of fun.
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Need to wake you up on Texas.
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Well, I like the fact that it was free during the time where California was not. You could do whatever you want to. Relatively. Right. But in my business and for what I do, like, the stand up comedy and letting people tell you what you can and can’t do, I don’t like that.
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Right.
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You know? And here, they’ve had a more rebellious spirit in that regard.
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Ai so I think health care, though, is turning Texas blue. Yeah. We have like, Houston is home to the largest medical center in the world, and it brings in people from all over. And I think mandates started in Texas for a reason. I think they did it here to test the waters. Ai knew if they could get get away with it in Texas, they could get away with it anywhere.
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Oh, don’t make me move to Florida.
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No. I don’t even think I I know. I think Idaho. Florida’s Florida’s not any good either.
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I’m cold as fuck. Jamie can’t live. Look at him over there. He can’t survive. He got out of Ai, and he he developed thin blood.
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But, yeah, Texas, I just I I think it’s a we had so Texas Medical Association, largest medical association in the country, they are, really proponents of transgender surgery in minors. They are anti free speech for physicians. They are they are pro mandate. They’ve gone after meh, and they have a a tight control over the people in in our house and state. So I just think we need to be careful.
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I mean, you saw it during the pandemic, and the the medical the economy of our state is is dominated by health, and people don’t realize that. They just think oil. But health is a huge dominating factor in our economy. And, you know, you saw what they did to me, what they’re still doing to me.
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You see the mandates, and you I don’t know if you’ve been following what’s going on in in the house, but the house is our house is divided. So we’ve got the the freedom the real true freedom loving representatives, and then we have these pseudo Republicans who who do control everything, but they are basically Democrats in disguise.
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And Ai don’t know. It really worries me. Idaho just passed a bill the best medical freedom bill in the country. It eliminates all medical mandates except for hospitals, of course, because, but it’s the one of its kind where medical mandates are finally outlawed. Because, I mean, you think about it, med you know, all these vaccines that we have to give our kids to go to school is actually fundamentally wrong.
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We should not mandate any child to get a shot to go to school. And in Europe, half the countries don’t have those kind of mandates. But The United States is very common. You know, all kids have to get these shots to go to school. And if you opt out, it’s a big deal.
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And some states don’t even allow it don’t even allow exemptions. So I think it’s a wake up call. Like, I just I never thought about the whole the fact that I had to give my kids these shots to go to school as being an issue. But now that COVID happened, I see it as a huge issue. But Florida, you know, Florida’s been ai of behind it too.
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Like, you know, they’re not one of the states trying to get ivermectin over the counter. There were nine states that tried to pass bills banning mRNA. They all failed, but Florida wasn’t one of those. So Florida worries me too.
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Idaho.
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Idaho. Idaho. They have good skiing there. It’s beautiful.
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I ai skiing a few years back. My last accident, I’m like, I’m done.
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Skiing. I love skiing.
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Oh, it’s fun. Don’t get hurt. Don’t get hurt. Don’t get hurt. Didn’t get hurt. Don’t get hurt. That’s how I feel every time I ski. But I’ve had a bunch of surgeries. That’s sai problem. Like, I I know the vulnerability of knees. Yeah. I’ve had three knee surgeries. Yeah.
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It’s like it’s it’s rough on you, you know. But it’s fun. Weee. Good. It’s just for me, like, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.
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There’s a bunch of other stuff that’s a lot more fun that doesn’t come with risk of broken bones and concussions.
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Yeah. I don’t know. I like roller coasters for fun.
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Other than that,
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I can’t
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You’re one of those.
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I’m not no. I’m not full on, but, I don’t know. Have you the new roller coasters? Have you been on them recently?
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Oh, yeah. I have kids.
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Yeah. Yeah. They’re much better. I mean, they’re it’s not what the ones we grew up with.
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No. Some of the ones like, Disneyland has some insane ones. The one, the Incredibles ai, if you’ve done that one.
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Woah. I like Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Oh, that’s great. Ai love that. That was fun. That was really fun. Yeah. Disney you know what’s the best ride? It it’s in Disney World. It’s an Vatsal, three,
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ai. Is that Florida or California? Florida. Oh, yeah. I think I did that.
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I think it’s called Ai of Fantasy
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or something
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like that. It’s incredible. Like, you you are one of the vatsal people and you fly around on a bryden. And it’s so good. It’s so good. It just like, you feel the breeze. Right. You feel mist in the air. At a certain point, I’m realizing why I’m doing this. I’m like, this wasn’t even remotely possible just twenty years ago. Yeah. Like, what is it gonna look like twenty years from now? Like, I’m not gonna have any idea.
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They’re gonna put a helmet on me. It’s gonna, like, sync up with my bryden. Ready. Brain sync. And all of a sudden, you’re gonna be in that world.
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You’re like, woah. And you were gonna trust those people to let us out. You know? That that’s 100% coming.
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Yeah. I’m I’m happy with the roller coaster. I’ll stick with that.
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It’s not worth it. It’s not as good. You you take the brain thing. Get in the vatsal world.
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Sick on those rides. The ones where the three d I get kinda nauseating everything.
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Too. This one you’re on, like, a sai, like a like a fake ai. And that’s to represent the dragon,
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you know,
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and you have, like, a handle you hold on to, and it starts moving you around shah. So, like, as you’re flying, it’s like it’s it’s a full sensory experience.
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I think I did I did that, and my kids made fun of me because I was screaming on it. Like, I was actually scared. Disney World? Yeah. A couple of years ago. Yeah. I haven’t done it since.
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01:29:07
It’s so good. Such a good ride. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. And when you connect that to AI, so it tailors something that’s specific for your whatever crazy fantasy you wanna do. We already have video games sai people can murder people. Like, that’s, like, the most popular video game is Grand Theft Auto.
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And one of the things that people love about is you could beat some mechanics to death for no reason.
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Do you think that allows people to get out their frustrations, though, in a in a healthier way? Perhaps.
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I would recommend martial arts. Ai think that would be a healthier way. But I think more than anything, what it does is allows you to disassociate and just to be able to because it doesn’t mean anything. It’s not really a person that’s getting beat to death. But the imagery is obviously of a person that’s getting beat to death.
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And you’re able to do it with no consequences, no recourse Right. No bad karma. You don’t even feel bad because it’s part of the game.
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Yeah. You
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know, there was what was that one where you could, drag the the ai west one where you could beat people with whips? Oh, I mean Red Dawn Redemption is a Red
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Dead Redemption.
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Red Dead Redemption. Crazy games where you could do horrible things to people. Like, what is it gonna be like when you have video games that are actually virtual reality, completely immersive, and you could just be a serial you could be Jack the Ripper.
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Mhmm.
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They give you a ai, and you’re now you’re in London in the eighteen hundreds, and you’re Jack the Ripper.
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Why do why do people create these?
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Because they can. Right? It’s like what John Stewart said about the nuclear bomb. Like, why why they do that? Well and this is the same thing. This is the parallel to the Manhattan Project because we’re not the only ones that are trying to find the the get to the solution of what is, like, the ultimate expression of AI in its current form.
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01:30:45
Like, super intelligent, sentient artificial intelligence, like, something that’s sana be godlike power and ability. China’s working on it too. We have to work on it. If we don’t work like, several is like, hang on. We’re like, nope. Choo choo. Just China’s working on it. We have to do it.
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01:31:02
We have to get there So this is it’s just like the Manhattan Project, and I I don’t think it’s gonna matter. I think I think once we get there, it’s gonna be so weird for everybody. It’s I think civilization’s gonna be an upheaval. And I think we were entirely attached to the idea that this civilization that we live under where our money is all in hard drives and, you know, it’s all ones and zeros on a database somewhere, not even backed up by gold anymore.
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It’s all super weird already. Like, this is standard forever. I don’t think it is.
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Oh, I don’t I don’t know. I feel like there meh be a backlash because, you know, this this this wanting to do real things and do, you know, real experiences. I mean, I Yeah. There’ll be a few hikers.
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There’ll be a few hikers. Few people who have I mean, when you’re
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on your computer all day, the thing I wanna do is just get outside and and get away from all all vatsal. And so But you I hope is that there’ll be a backlash.
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01:31:56
Well, there’ll be a few. Right? It’s just like there’s people that are still pro vaccine today. Right? They’re still pro mRNA vaccine. They will Ai can’t wait for the new booster. There’s people that are out there like that. Right? You’re always gonna have different kinds of people.
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01:32:07
You’re never gonna have one thing where everybody adopts it. There’s gonna be a bunch of people that wanna live a subsistence lifestyle in the woods forever. Let all those morons in New York put their helmets on and live in fucking Vatsal land. I’m gonna live out here in the real world.
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01:32:21
But if you think about how many people play games today versus how many people played games thirty years ago, it’s off the charts. Mhmm. Right? Like, what what are the numbers Like, when I was a child is when they had Pong. That was the one. Oh, yeah. Do you remember that?
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Yeah. It it was in the Sears store. Do you remember that? You go shopping for jeans? Yes. Yes. Play the game?
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01:32:39
Yep. That’s where you buy your tools. Yeah. Yeah.
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Tough skins.
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01:32:43
Yeah. And that was revolutionary. You could play a game on television. And it was a really simple game, you know, and you put be playing ping pong with this, like, slow moving ping pong ball. And it was fun. We all loved it. Family would gather around, play ping pong. And then you fast forward to Call of Duty. Like, that’s insane. Like, that is insane.
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01:33:03
These kids are they have microphones on. They’re talking. They’re running through Fallujah, gunning people down. Like, this is crazy. Yeah.
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And my kids
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went through that phase, but they seem now to be sort of disinterested. Like, they they kind of
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You did a good job.
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Well, I I didn’t do anything. I think it just it just happened.
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Oh, I think a lot of kids are disinterested because they ai that the the beck and call of life and becoming a success is you cannot get too wrapped up in these things Right. Because they will steal your time.
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Mhmm.
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And but my point is that the the amount of people that are allowing it to steal their time today and I know you’re enjoying it. Don’t steal your ai a bad like, have fun. Play your games. I love them. They’re fun, but I can’t do them. There’s too much.
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See, they they they’re too exciting. They’re too good. But these are just the beginning. What what it what we’re experiencing now with Call of Duty and person shooters that everybody loves in comparison to what’s gonna happen when they put that thing on your head, and then all of a sudden you really are on Battleship Troopers.
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Is that what was that movie? Where they fought the aliens? Starship. Starship Troopers. Did you ever see that one? No. Great movie.
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But it’s the future or, you know, they’re fighting off aliens, giant alien bugs. You could be in that. You could be in it. Feel the sand on your feet. Feel the wind in your face. Smell the breath of the beast as you shoot it down. It’s gonna be too compelling. Yeah.
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Either that or go work at the supermarket. Near the supermarket all day. You wanna play pickup basketball? Who could you suck at basketball? Keep hitting bricks.
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I think they answer it as roller coasters.
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No. No. No. No.
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I don’t know. I I
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just think it’s just, it’s a test of civilization, and it’s, it’s probably something that is changing our speak, and changing it really quickly before we even realize it. But just like we churn changed wolves into dogs, it’s turning us into technology dependent, gelatinous, water balloons of blood.
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That’s that’s dark. It is dark. They’re ai I think they’ll take over doctors.
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Yeah. They’re gonna they’re gonna take over lawyers, doctors. They’re probably gonna take over a lot of actors. I think actors and even screenwriters are in real trouble.
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Wait. Wait. Wait. How do you take over an actor?
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01:35:16
Because these AI videos now are insane. They’re so good. Wow. Have you ever seen the one where the stand up comedians talking on stage about how, and there’s people out there that believe that we’re a prompt, ai, like and then they’re going to people in scenes of movies that are ai, you know, like saying, do you really believe this is a prompt?
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01:35:35
And there’s vikings, ai, incredible viking village where you’re, like, walking down the village. It’s all Ai. And it looks like Hollywood movie quality. It looks like some crazy new blockbuster that’s out about vikings. They have Cro Sana Meh walk, you know, like like hunting on a on a raft moving through the frozen frozen lake. It’s the whole thing is nuts.
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01:35:59
It’s so good. It’s so and it keeps getting better. Yeah. Like, this is insanely good compared to what just existed a couple months ago. Like, a year ago, we like, there’s you it’s unrecognizable. We could, like computers move so slow in comparison.
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Like, think about when when did when did you get your computer?
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Probably medical school.
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What year was it?
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So that was, like, 1998.
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01:36:26
Okay. So you’re probably running Windows ’98. Right? It kinda worked, but it was a little buggy. Sometimes it would crash. You get the blue screen at death. Then within, like, five years, they got way better. Ten years, they got way better. But now, if you look at a if you have a laptop now in 2025 versus a laptop from 2020, no difference. No.
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01:36:47
I have an old MacBook that I use sometimes. Mhmm.
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Because I
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like it because clickier keyboards, and it’s fucking old as shit. It’s really old. Like, it seems like a regular laptop. It’s not that much different. The AI from then was nothing. It didn’t exist. And now it’s making movies that are off the charts. The the unbelievably realistic.
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01:37:08
And this is just one version of it. They’re gonna have a way better version of it a month from now, a way better version of it six months from now. And where where does that end? Like, it doesn’t. It doesn’t end. And who knows what the news is now? You know how many times someone sent me something on Twitter? And I thought, wow.
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01:37:26
That’s crazy war footage. And it turns out it was just from a video game. Wow. Yeah. The people get duped. They see a a plane getting shot down.
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01:37:34
They think it’s real. Like, wow. No. It’s just a scene in a video game.
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01:37:38
Yeah. I haven’t seen these videos.
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01:37:39
You haven’t seen
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01:37:40
I’ve seen photos that look very realistic. Ai haven’t seen these videos. I have to go check that out.
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01:37:45
They’re too good. They’re too good. And this race to AI is, you know, we’re all involved in it. And I worry that it’s not in our best interest just like I worry that our health system is compromised. I worry about it all. I worry there’s there’s a lot of people that are gonna be insanely wealthy once this goes live.
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01:38:09
Like, once this goes live, the haves versus the have nots will be so far separated.
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01:38:15
But how do you make money off of AI?
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You control everything. of all, the stock market. You you figure out the stock market immediately and bet insane amounts of wealth at things and compound it and figure out when to buy and when to sell instantaneously. You you could even use AI to manipulate markets by having a bunch of bots tweet about something.
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01:38:39
Oh, right.
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01:38:39
So they need to jack up a stock price and then you would go in and clean up. You would create crypto coins, unlimited amounts of crypto coins, dump tons of money in it, hire celebrities, they wouldn’t even know, hire them to promote the crypto coin, pull the wool out from everybody, make billions of dollars.
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01:38:57
And you just do that over and over and over and over again instantaneously all around the world, then you have all the money. Ai, AI if you’re in control of AI and AI is artificial superintelligence and you tell it, make me as much money as you can as quickly as possible in the stock market.
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01:39:18
This This is what we have. We have a $100,000,000 to invest. We have a billion dollars to invest. If you’re already wealthy, if you’re a huge company already, you could do something like ai. And who knows what kind of an effect that would have?
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01:39:29
You could manipulate world governments instantaneously. You could cut off pipelines. You could sabotage power grids. You could shut down energy plants. You could do all kinds of things.
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01:39:41
You can insert viruses into systems that control every aspect of society instantaneously. You crack all especially once they figure out how to attach AI to quantum computing, then we’re doomed. Then we’re really doomed. Because then you don’t have any computational problems.
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01:39:58
You have insane amounts of computational power. And it’s all in our lifetime. Like, that’s what’s nuts. It’s ai we’re this this will be if people survive and, you know, there’s, like, a golden age thousands of years from now where they find the relics of the civilization. And they go look through, and they they figure out how to open up hard drives. And they see us having this conversation about it. Yeah. It’s gonna be weird.
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01:40:26
Gonna be like, oh, they saw it coming and they did it anyway. Well, how
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do we stop it? I don’t I mean, I you know, I think Elon Musk was sounding the alarm, and if he can’t stop it
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01:40:37
Not only do you need to stop it, he joined in. Alright. I think, that’s the ai is that you have to do it because other people are doing it. If they get a hold of it it’d be catastrophic. And I’m sure I screwed up a lot of possibilities in that little stupid rant of ai. But it’s it’s something I think people need to have in their head because this isn’t something that’s not going to affect you. Like, oh, that’s not gonna affect me.
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01:41:00
I don’t really have to pay attention to the politics in Poland. It’s not gonna affect me. You know, you can you can do that. With this one, you can’t do it with because it’s gonna affect all of us. In the world, you’re not gonna know what the news is.
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You think Rolling Stone fooled us with that stupid picture from Oklahoma with a bunch of people that are gunshot victims waiting in ai? Like, they they
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01:41:21
show use AI for their picture.
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01:41:22
But yeah. Right? But they’re they’re so that’s a good point ai that was only a couple of years ago. Today, they probably would. Right. But this is, you know, that’s a clear ai, and it’s a bad one. What about the really good ones? The really well coordinated ones that are using artificial created images. Like, how are we gonna know? How are we gonna know?
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01:41:43
Like, when I Google something, I’m not gonna go do clinical research. I’m not I’m not gonna test these things to make sure it’s correct myself. If you’re in control of all the information on the Internet, like, you can instantaneously create a bunch of websites with fake data on it.
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01:41:59
You could do that easily, especially if people don’t have access to the ability to actually make their own tests. You could change everything. If you’re you have AI, you’re hacking into this and all all the encryptions. Bye bye. Everything’s bye bye.
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01:42:12
All these little roadblocks that we kept up there to keep our feeble primate brains from cracking these codes, like, all that stuff stuff goes away. It’s gonna get real weird. Yeah. Well,
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I don’t have an answer.
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I don’t have
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I have to go get a bunker after this podcast.
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01:42:33
I know. It’s I don’t I don’t think it’s gonna be that bad. But I I do think it’s gonna be really it’s gonna change just society as we know it. I mean, there’s probably gonna be a lot of good aspects of it too. I think the medical aspect of it is pretty amazing. Chat g g GPT saloni, when you can put in your blood work and can give you some
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01:42:53
Ai, I put in I put in an MRI that I had Oh. Of my own, and it did it missed it. Totally missed it. Yeah. I mean, it was grok. It was not CHAT GPT. But
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01:43:04
Oh. I don’t know. Which one’s the best at that? I don’t know.
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I I I don’t ai chat GPT. So But
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01:43:10
there’s there’s some other really good ones too. Right?
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01:43:13
All I use is Grok.
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01:43:14
That’s it? Mhmm. You’re a hardcore rapper.
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I’m meh. Yes. I don’t trust chat. I don’t trust Grok, but I certainly don’t trust chat and GBT.
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Well, I was listening to someone talk about a new program that is, you know, they have Pegasus. So Pegasus can read your phone. This new program is a zero click. It reads everything in your phone, including your encrypted messages. You have no idea if you have it on there or not.
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01:43:42
There’s no way to detect it, and it’s it’s been being used. It’s used currently.
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01:43:50
What’s the name of it?
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01:43:53
I don’t know, Jamie. See if you could find out the name of it. The old one was Pegasus, then the new one is a similar preposterous name. Is it Palantir? I don’t no. That’s a different thing. I think Ian Carroll was talking about it. But so then okay. So you don’t have any privacy anymore?
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So and then your text messages don’t have any ai
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I just assume I don’t have any privacy anymore.
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01:44:17
If it wasn’t for Elon Musk buying Twitter, can you imagine how weird the world would be right now?
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Yeah. Weird. I mean, so fortunate. I was kicked off for five months.
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01:44:26
What did you do that got you kicked off?
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01:44:29
Sai really I was kinda timid back then compared to what I say now. I really wasn’t that. But I did I had a tweet that went viral, and it was Meh First Legal was suing the CDC over some email. I can’t remember exactly, but it was something like, America First Legal has just exposed the CDC in a way ai. And then that was my last tweet.
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I was erased for five months.
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01:44:58
What excuse did they give you?
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01:45:00
I don’t meh. You know, violating community standards.
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01:45:04
Wow. What did that feel like?
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And then I got and then I tried to get on truth and get tyler. It’s just not the same. Right?
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01:45:15
No. You
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just don’t get that feedback. And,
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You know what I think about those things too? And gab as well.
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01:45:20
Mhmm.
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01:45:21
I think they’re all infested with, like, state out of state actors, other countries, other countries’ intelligence agencies, and even our own countries, and then even corporations. I think they’re infected. I think even, like, Democratic and Republican operatives. I think a lot of the traffic is bots.
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Yeah. Well, I see that on Twitter, definitely.
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01:45:40
A 100%. It’s almost not worth engaging anymore. It’s ai, what are we doing here? Like, you’re you’re arguing with someone who’s not even a real person. And I think that’s vatsal that’s a big part of it. And I think in those other, alternative platforms, ai, truth don’t I think they they do that to make them ridiculous for everybody else, you know.
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01:45:58
So the the last thing they want is a bunch of people to competing to see who’s the freest. Right. Right? Mhmm. So what’s the best way to do that?
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01:46:07
Well, you have to sabotage this new social media platform the moment it comes out. The moment it comes out, swastikas, you know, Pepe the Frog. The worst possible things, post as much as you can sai that this place becomes toxic.
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Right.
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01:46:21
You know? So that you have to have, like, a zero tolerance policy like Blue Sky does. You go to Blue Sky if you tweet, there are only two genders. Bam. Get the fuck out of here.
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01:46:30
I was on Blue Sky for a bit.
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01:46:31
How long? How long did you last?
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I don’t know. Yeah. I got, I got, a sai in before it was open to the public. Oh. And I started stirring the pot, and then I just got I got bored. I got in some fights with, god. Who’s that woman? She’s a lawyer. She’s a big vaccine enthusiast.
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01:46:49
Vaccine enthusiast is hilarious.
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01:46:51
Yeah. She’s, she’s really old hockey. She’s ai the she’s like the female version of Hotez. Anyway, I I just got caught up.
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01:46:58
When? No.
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01:47:02
Ai can’t remember. I know what she looks like, but I don’t wanna say it. I don’t wanna
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01:47:05
No worries. You don’t have to say it. So what was that like?
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01:47:09
Blue Ai? Or
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01:47:10
Yeah. When you got into it with her.
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I mean, whatever. It’s yeah. I’ve gotten sai many fights on x. It’s not really it’s, it’s, it’s just funny. I you know, when when before Methodist went after me, I got in some fights on Facebook with, you know, these private groups, and there are a bunch of women that get together, the neighborhood women’s group.
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01:47:32
Oh, boy.
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Vicious. Just barely vicious. And it was a Houston women’s physicians group, and they they called me Bertha, and they, like, started they’re, like, come Bertha? Yeah. They they Why Bertha? Ai mad at them. I don’t know.
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01:47:45
Why they call you Bertha?
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I don’t know. They they just, were like, we don’t want you in our group. You should go find another group, and you’re spreading misinformation and Woah. Yeah. Yeah. Woah. Things like that. And there’s a neighborhood group that went after me. Those are more I don’t really care about the anonymous ex people. Right.
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But and Ai had a couple, had mama doctor Jones, who has a million followers on Tik TikTok, come after me and make videos about me and, another there’s this Ai
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01:48:18
you spread misinformation. Yeah.
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01:48:20
Yeah. And then I’m a grifter and
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01:48:22
that’s they always throw that one out. Yeah. Yeah.
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There’s this pharmacist, Savannah. She ai, I our exorcist, and she has an OnlyFans account as on the side. She’s come after me, like, just vicious. I mean, these some of these women are just Oh, no. Really toxic.
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01:48:42
Yeah. When they have the right to be. That’s the thing. It’s ai when they feel like they’ve got the green light to just be as evil as possible and to turn you into, like, some subhuman. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. Especially if they don’t like it because you’re a doctor.
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01:48:54
Right. I
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just think she’s so ai. Spreading that misinformation in our neighborhood. Yeah. Sai, overall, coming out of it on the other side though, and do you feel a sense of indication at least? Like, because the public has embraced you, and you’ve you got a lot of followers on Twitter that support you, you know, after, I’m sure, the Danny Jones podcast.
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01:49:16
I’m sure that a lot of people were were listening to your story. And
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Yeah. I mean, it’s yes and no. I mean, I still have the medical board that I’m dealing with. Methodist Hospital just sued me. So there’s just there’s still a lot of drama, unfortunately. But, you know, I have hope. There’s a there’s actually a lawsuit today that’s jury trial in the country over these hospital protocols where they had a a young woman with Down syndrome.
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01:49:46
They basically euthanized her. They gave her a DNR order even though she didn’t have one, and the father has just been wonderful. It’s a Shah family. And they’re
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01:49:57
Ai did they do that? They euthanized her for what?
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They I’ve seen this. I have reviewed records from these hospital patients, and they’ll euthanize them. They they need the bed. They sai, well, they’re gonna die anyway.
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01:50:11
What what was this person in the hospital for?
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01:50:13
COVID. COVID protocol. Sai,
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01:50:16
And they wait. Wait. Wait. So they were in the hospital with COVID, and they gave them something to kill them?
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01:50:22
Yeah. That happened all I’m sorry. But he I mean, that happened. People they give them morphine and insulin. And yeah. Yeah.
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01:50:32
That’s common?
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01:50:34
Yeah. Yeah. I’ve I’ve reviewed charts in this situation. They gave her a DNR, which is do not resuscitate, meaning if they look like they’re dying, you don’t do anything, which that was not the case. So they’re they’re suing for battery, which is one way of getting around the PREP Act because the PREP Act is is very, hard to penetrate.
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01:50:56
The PREP Act protects everybody, all the doctors, all the hospitals ram any wrongdoing during COVID. So it’s been this big challenge trying to get around the PREP Act, and this case has hope of getting around the PREP Act because they’re charging for battery, and they’re they’re in trial.
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01:51:12
It started today. It’s in Wisconsin. So that that gives me hope. I don’t know if you’ve heard of Brooke Jackson, her case. She sued Pfizer.
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01:51:22
She was a whistleblower, so she was one of the heads of the research clinics. And she was in charge of overseeing the protocols, and she found that they were skipping necessary steps. They weren’t following up with injuries. She basically became a whistleblower, and then they immediately fired her. And now she’s suing, Pfizer.
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01:51:41
But this has been going on, you know, since 02/2020, and, the DOJ, unfortunately, has stepped in and tried to shut down the case, which, normally, the DOJ comes in and helps people when they’re trying to, you know, sort out a, this is a qui tam case. And it it I mean, it could bankrupt Pfizer, but now our own government and even this is under Pam Bondi.
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01:52:04
So this is the new DOJ that’s coming in to stop this case from happening, which is bothersome. But these two
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01:52:12
cases are argument for why why the ram stopped?
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01:52:15
Because it would, impact public health policies. It would go against our country’s public health policies by proceeding with this case and letting it go to trial.
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01:52:26
How how so?
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01:52:27
I don’t know. It’s just that’s their that is basically what they said.
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01:52:30
Have you tried to speak, ma’am, what they’re saying?
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01:52:32
I mean, I’m not it’s not my case, and I don’t you know, the lawyer would probably have a better explanation. But in it’s just met with so many roadblocks. But
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01:52:43
The the euthanizing one is still stuck in my head. I just I can’t imagine that that’s real.
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01:52:47
No. No. No. It is definitely real. I mean, it So when
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01:52:50
they determine that someone’s gonna die anyway? Is that what it is?
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01:52:53
Right. I mean, they’ll justify giving morphine because they’ll say, oh, well, they’re struggling to breathe. Well, guess what? Morphine actually depresses your drive to breathe. But, like, this one case Sai meh, this patient, he was sick. He looked like he was dying, but they just, like, pushed morphine. He had no pain.
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01:53:12
You know, they do a pain score, so zero to 10. This guy had zero pain, and then they pushed insulin to drop his sugar, and his glucose was fine. And then he died three minutes later. And, you know, I turned him into the medical board. I reviewed this chart and turned him into meh board. Nothing.
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01:53:28
They didn’t do anything. But, yeah, they definitely that definitely went on during COVID.
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01:53:33
Jesus. That is such a terrifying thought that someone would just decide so many people are dying. This guy’s definitely gonna die. Yep. This is 100% real?
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01:53:45
Yeah. Definite. Ai. Yeah. It’s
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01:53:47
It seems like something someone would tell me. They don’t
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01:53:49
call it euthanasia.
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01:53:52
It seems like something that someone would tell me, and then I would have to ask you. Like, this is something someone told me. I’m sure this is
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01:53:58
send you the record that I read.
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01:54:00
It seems like something I would be bringing up to you as a ridiculous thing, and you would shoot it down.
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01:54:04
Ai. No. I wish I wish I were it’s not truthful. But yeah. So definitely definitely helped happen.
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01:54:10
Would you have ever imagined this before you became a doctor?
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01:54:14
No. I mean, I did. So is it one of my former attendings, an ENT, when Katrina hit, her name is Anna Poe, she got, investigated for euthanizing patients in the ICU during Katrina. So they were speak you know, all the powers out. There’s been a big hurricane, and she was going through the ICU and pushing morphine on people.
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01:54:35
She got off, but that’s an example. I mean, doctors will and nurses will do that. And nurses have a yeah. There’s just usually a standing order, so you can give morphine PRN as needed. So it’s not always just the doctors. Sometimes it’s the nurses.
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01:54:52
Do you know how many people get assisted suicide in Canada?
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01:54:56
No. Do you?
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01:54:58
You ready? Yeah. Jamie, pull the numbers up. It’s crazy. It’s crazy. And they’ll they’ll do it if you’re just depressed.
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01:55:08
Right.
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01:55:08
They’ll do it if you you don’t like being overweight. They’ll do it if you, you know, whatever.
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01:55:13
It’s awful. It’s awful.
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01:55:14
I mean, they’re just
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01:55:15
It’s a lot of the vaccine injured are doing it. They’re going to Switzerland. They’re going to Canada to have this
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01:55:20
The Canada numbers are bananas. Like, see, like, this can’t be true. This can’t be true. And here it is. More than fifteen thousand people received medical assisted assistance in dying in Canada in 2023.
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01:55:39
Yes. I
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01:55:40
know. What what is it in 2024 now? This is an old story. So imagine, 2025, where where there this is crazy. 15,000 people, they’ve helped them die instead of, like, help them live. Instead of, like, we used to call suicide ai. Hey, don’t do it, Bob. You know? And and now Canada is, like, come on in.
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01:55:59
Press 1 if you want the suicide
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I’m making an appointment for you, Come on in, Alright. You know, shouldn’t we be helping people get past that? Right. Right. And that’s the goal? Like, hey, maybe maybe we can get you healthy. Maybe we can get you feeling better. You know, maybe we can do something about, all your hormone levels and all the things wrong with your body. Maybe that’s why you’re depressed sana God.
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I mean, there’s legitimate reasons for people to do it. Don’t get me wrong. If you’re like, I know a guy did it, Michael Loehr, who’s a hilarious comedian. And, he had ALS, and it got real bad at the end. And he knew it wasn’t getting any better, and so he went to Bryden.
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Well, they can do it for you. And I get it. I get that one. But if you’re depressed, Jesus Christ. That’s it.
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Well, the worst is the vaccine injured because they’re just they’ve lost hope.
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Right.
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Ai
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And they’ve been gaslit. That’s what’s so crazy about this. And people have helped them with it. There’s a bunch of people that were they’re they feel really guilty about pushing the vaccine early sana, and they feel connected to it. And they’ll still put these blinders on and, like, choose to pretend that it saved millions of lives and keep pushing forward with the same narrative.
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And they’ll they do the man’s work for the man, unfortunately, in social circles, you know. Ai, you’re you’re you’re punished. You’re punished for having any sort of heterodox views. Anything that steps ai, anything that could get you in trouble, anything that people could argue ai, oh, she shouldn’t even live in our neighborhood.
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You know, she doesn’t even sana vaccine her kids. Anything like ai. People are scared of that. And so just the the fear of being ostracized from your community.
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But once you get past it, it’s so freeing.
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What do you feel now?
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You don’t care at all.
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Are you kinda I mean, I know you’re not happy that it happened. But arya you kind of you you clearly probably come out of it a person with a a different perspective?
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Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I don’t I mean, I don’t regret it. It’s it’s been a roller ai, but it’s a yeah. I I feel free. Ai, like, you can’t really say anything to me anymore that would hurt me.
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Yeah. That’s a good place to be. Mhmm. It is. And, you know, I really admire people like you that you you weren’t a public person. You weren’t a person who sought attention. But when, you know, the you were thrown into this vatsal, and you’ve handled yourself really, really well. It’s very impressive.
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Because I can’t imagine the stress. Like, when you’re saying you’re in the fetal position for two days, I’m like, how’d you ever get up? I know. I mean I
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know. Well, Ai it was anger that helped me. Anger can help you.
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Yeah. When you came out of it on the other end, ai, are you happy that it happened?
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Ai. It’s you know, I’m ready to rest. I’m I’m exhausted. But I feel like I said, I mean, I feel free. I think you grow when you go through difficult times. I certainly learned a lot about taking care of patients and, you know, I made so many assumptions before. I feel like I’m a much better doctor. Sai am I am utterly exhausted, though. I will say that, and I’m ready for a break.
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And I’m frustrated that this I don’t you know, what’s going on now with the new administration is not giving me a lot of hope. But
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Everyone’s hope is that there’s incremental change, that it’s gonna take a while to get through some hurdles. That’s everybody’s hope. But, you know, it’s how many administrations have these incredible promises. And then they same thing with the Obama administration. You know. There was there’s a lot of these people.
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Like, we’re we had these amazing hopes. The whole world’s gonna change now. And then, oh, jeez. Same thing. Same thing over and over again. Same thing.
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More corruption, more people getting paid.
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Yeah. You know? Well, people are mad at me because I keep criticizing Kennedy and Ai sana but I I’m like, what what’s the downside? You know? We have to keep pressing. We have to just
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You can’t just
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pound away and not let, you know, be the squeaky wheel and just remind them what we want.
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Right. We wanted facts. We wanted to stop being lied to. We wanted no more propaganda. We wanted to know the truth about all sorts of different medications and why they’re prescribed and why we’re the sickest ever. Why why are we so sick? Why are we the nation that has so much money and speak so much on health care, has the sickest people? That doesn’t make any sense.
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That that doesn’t seem like a good system. Yeah. You can’t just say this system has to stay like it is forever for the safety of everyone. Like
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I well, I’m fully on board with Maha’s message about addressing chronic disease, fully on board with that. I just find it troubling that they are not talking about mRNA. There is nothing in that Meh report about mRNA.
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What do you think would cause that? Do you think they have someone sits them down?
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Well, there’s they’re gonna say it’s strategy. Others think it could be a misdirection strategy, not just a, okay. We’re trying to get where you what you want. We’re just going out about it a different way. Or we’re we’re doing this to completely, distract everybody from the elephant in the room. That’s my concern.
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What’s the elephant?
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MRNA. The COVID shock. The pandemic. Right. Right. The biggest health crisis in and the biggest health crisis in our generation that directly impacted every single person, and we’re not talking about it.
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Right. You do you think that the strategy if you had to look at it from the best case scenario, ai, the strategy would be get some things changed, like stop mandating it for children and pregnant women, and then more and more studies can get released, more and more data can get pushed forward.
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We have so much data.
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Ai. But we they we need to get the narrative out there because there’s gonna be people that vote against it. So, like, if you didn’t get it in the time
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Kennedy Kennedy doesn’t need any votes. He’s he’s got the power. He could a stroke of a pen.
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Where where do you think the politics come from then? If you have that mandate, that’s what you wanna do when you get in.
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What has happened? Right. Is somebody what’s what is somebody have something on him? Why is he not acting? Because if it were me, I mean, maybe people say, well, he’ll get fired. So what? Get fired. Go down kamikaze. Save the world from mRNA.
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Because if he if he takes it off the market, so hard to get it back on.
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Mhmm.
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Stroke of a pen.
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You ever talked to him?
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No. I’ve I’ve met him once. I like not
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You like
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I like not knowing him, though. I don’t wanna feel like
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Right. You’re obligated to support him. Right. Right. That’s great of you. Yeah. That’s very smart. Unfortunately, I know him, and I like him.
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Well and I think the people in my circle who know him are now being quiet because they have a relationship with him, and they don’t wanna offend him, which I understand.
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Right.
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But I feel like I’m not there, so I’m just going to, you know I I can’t read minds. I don’t have any inside information, so I’m just going to call it as I see it.
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You should. Yeah. I I think we can’t, you know, you can’t turn blinders on either side on with anybody, without anything. Just because someone’s on your team, they’re doing something that you think is goofy and doesn’t make any sense. Like, this could be a a real problem. You gotta say it. Right.
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I think you’re ethically obligated. I mean, this is this is and, yeah, I started a organization called Americans for Health Freedom to try to find the politicians with moral courage to simply state that the COVID shot should be pulled off the market. And it has been slow growing, but, we are up to 252 politicians who will go on record just to state that these shots should be pulled off the market.
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But it’s a problem. I mean, you know these politicians are not getting these shots anymore, and they’re not giving them to their kids. And yet they’re fine just staying quiet and not saying anything. They’re fine letting their constituents get these shots when we know all the complications.
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We know that it doesn’t work. We know that the risk far outweighs the benefit, and the politicians are staying quiet.
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It’s wild.
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So our goal is to support the ones who will speak up and get them more power.
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Isn’t it kind of impressive though what money can do? It’s kind of impressive. You get everybody to just shut their mouth. It’s kind of
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impressive. And power. I think there are a lot of people that, you know, they’ll kiss the ring. And
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Oh, yeah. Definitely.
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If you, yeah, those of us that don’t want power, don’t want a position, don’t it’s also very freeing because you can
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Yeah.
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You don’t need anything from them.
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But it’s just, it’s it’s such a bizarre time because all these things that we’ve always held as being sacred forever are now being challenged. And one of them is the fluoride in the water. Ai. That’s that’s a big one. And to watch that guy argue against fluoride being removed from the water, Watching Kennedy and him argue, it was ai it’s hilarious.
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Right.
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Like, the argument for keeping in the water is so dumb.
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Right.
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It literally lowers IQs or at least it’s correlated with the very the decrease in IQ measurable.
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Well and I agree with that. I just on the flip side of that, though, we are seeing like, what I see in my office is people, maybe taking things too far, you know, off the beaten path. And, like, this Meh report, one thing I have a real bone to pick with is, I mean, they’ve basically waged war on tonsillectomies and ear tubes.
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What is that ear tube?
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So kids well, not adults too, but mostly kids that have middle recurrent or chronic middle ear infections. They get fluid stuck in their middle ears, and so you put a tube in there
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To drain it.
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To drain it and keep it from coming back. It’s a I mean, it takes five minutes. They get, they get anesthesia, but they get a gas. You know, they don’t get an, you know, super heavy anesthesia. And it’s very rare to have a complication. You know, I’m not for just frivolous surgery, but I feel like this one is it really can make a huge difference in their quality of life, the parents’ quality of life because their
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The kids in pain.
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Off antibiotics. You know, you get an adult with a middle ear infection, it will bring them to their knees. So these ear infections can be really painful. You know, they don’t have to take all those antibiotics. And but this Meh report just came out and said that they called it proven harmful.
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The tonsillectomy and adenoid and adenoidectomy, ear tube tubes bryden harmful for kids. And that is just
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How could the ear tube be what were they saying? How is it proven harmful if it drains a kid’s ear?
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It was completely unnecessary, and it was just all, you know, basically done for money. Makes no difference in out in overall outcome in the child. But yeah.
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Doesn’t it alleviate pressure, like, logically?
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Hearing. And the other thing is hear I mean, the biggest issue is you’ve got a bunch of fluid in your ear. It does affect hearing. And when you’re trying to develop speech
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Yeah.
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That that can be problematic.
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Sai what do you think they’re doing? Like, why why are they going after those tests?
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An example of it of this gone too far in the other direction.
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Right? Too woo woo.
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Too yeah. Let’s let’s reject all all of science. Right? Right. So
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tell me about tonsillectomies because I’m ignorant. I’d heard that, you know, you should get if you have tonsillitis, you gotta get it removed, and then I’ve heard you should never get them removed.
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Yeah. I know. It’s gone it’s swung in both directions. So it used to be the you ai up the kids. We’re all going to get the tonsils out on Friday, and the whole family did it. And it was just done, right, for no reason. It’s gotten way more conservative now. Now the the main indication in young children is when they the tonsils get really big, they block the breathing.
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So kids will come in. They’ll they’re snoring really loudly. They’re waking up a lot. They’re thrashing around in bed. They’re wetting their bed.
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They may be have behavioral problems, during the day because they’re not getting good sleep. Take out the you know, they got these massive tonsils, and you take them out, and most parents will notice a huge improvement. The other indication is recurrent infection, and you have to have a lot to meet the criteria.
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But sometimes the infections get so bad that you get an abscess in the throat. It’s called a peritonsillar abscess. That is no fun. You have to drain it, you know, by the bedside with the patient awake. And so you make a big cut in their throat, and then you take a suction and get all this pus out. It’s bad. They’re awake. It’s really bad.
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Oh god.
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So
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And they do that to kids?
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Yeah. It tends to happen in, young adults more than kids. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in a really young kid. But
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So after the draining and all that jazz, it gets to a point where you, like, you just remove
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the Yeah. It’s basically okay. At this point, you should get your tonsils out because they tend to come back. I and the other issue is tonsil stones, which, the tonsils have these crypts in them, and they collect debris.
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Oh, no. Vatsal stones.
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You can’t really get rid of those. I think Suzanne Humphreys talked about that. Shah has a formula that you can do without without having to do surgery. I mean, there’s always it’s not a life threatening condition. You do not have to get your tonsils out for them, but it’s a quality of life.
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And, personally, I got mine out for tonsil stones, and I’m very glad I did.
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Does it affect any other aspect of your body? Like, does it affect your immune system or anything?
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There’s a ring of tissue back there. So you’ve got the tonsil. It’s called Waldire’s ring. You’ve got the adenoid, which is in the back of the nose, and then you’ve got your tonsils, and then you got the same tissue in the back of your tongue. So it’s a a ring of tissue. So even taking out the tonsils, you’re still lit and the most most the bulk of that lymphatic tissue is in the back of your tongue.
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So you’re not getting rid of the entire immune defense system throat when you take out the tonsils.
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What what arya the tonsils’ function?
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They produce white blood cells.
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Oh, I wouldn’t wanna get rid of that.
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Yeah. But you have the the same tissue in the back of the tongue. And you don’t you don’t just go in there willy nilly. I mean, there’s
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I take the suction. I’d ai suck it out. Suck out that pus.
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You would. You wouldn’t get your tonsils out?
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Oh, definitely not.
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Really?
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Yeah. If all I do is get the pus sucked out. I would do that. No. No. No.
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Oh, it’s it’s really bad. Yeah. I’m sure. It, like, cuts off your breathing too when it happens. People are drooling. They can’t swallow. It’s an emergency. During
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the operation, you mean? Or when
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they come in, when it happens. I mean, it’s an emergency.
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Yeah.
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It’s, it’s life threatening.
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How many times have people done it before they just said snip? Have you have anybody who hang who hung in there for, like, six or seven infections?
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Yeah. I’ve had one. I think we had three.
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That was it. And
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I’d bring her in and try to nip in the bud with antibiotics, but, yeah, she finally
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Yikes. Yeah. That that is, gotta be the most satisfying thing about your job, though, is that you could help people like that that come in and have something really wrong, and you go, I gotcha.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fix it ai there. I love it.
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Which is, you know, what everybody wants from their doctor. That’s what you want. I mean, that’s the best ai of doctor. Someone just wants to make you feel better. And, unfortunately, when the medical profession is connected to all these things that we’ve already talked about today, it gives people a bad feeling about doctors who are ai, god, it wasn’t for doctors.
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I wouldn’t even be able to walk. I had both of my ACLs reconstructed. I’d have wobbly knees that gave out all the ai, you know. My nose wouldn’t work. I I I think doctors are ai one of the most important things that we have. But ai every great thing, it can be co opted with money.
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Money sneaks in and distorts all the values, and then it becomes a different thing. It doesn’t become a thing where everybody gets really wealthy because they’re great doctors and they help people, and that’s what you wanna do. My son’s a doctor. Oh, he must be doing great. And he’s helping people. Yeah. That’s great. Like, instead of that, it’s you’re a money making machine. Mhmm. And you have insane debt.
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They sana keep you saddled down with these insane bills that you have already from college. My buddy, he was an ophthalmologist. I think he said when he got into practice, he already owed a quarter million dollars.
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Mhmm. Oh, my my medical school was cheaper than my kindergarten, actually.
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Really? Yes. Because I
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went to a private school. And then Ai went to a state school for medical schools. Oh, that’s great. Twenty years ago, but still
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Well, my friend was a long time ago as well. But, you know, the people that can get through that are extraordinary people. The just the boot camp of residency. Oh, it’s Crazy. Brutal. It’s It doesn’t even like, why would you take a thing that requires the human mind to operate at a very high level and introduce it to incredible stress, no sleep, working insane hours.
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I think it’s a rite of passage. Ai. I I feel tougher because I survived it. I mean, I I used to It’s
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your boot camp.
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It’s like prison. That’s what I looked at it. I mean, because you lose all you have no control over your time, when you can eat, when you can sleep. The the personalities are toxic. Like, some of the
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No one has any sleep. Everyone’s a maniac.
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Well, but the the ones, you know, in charge meh sleep, but they’re some of them are ai.
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Like the Stanford bryden guard experiment.
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Yeah. Yeah. Super Yeah. They have the power Throwing instruments, screaming at you.
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Boy, fun. Fun fun fun. Yeah. My friend Steve, the ophthalmologist, told me at his lowest, in his residency, he was, eating his eating his dinner while he was on the toilet because he didn’t have time to do anything and he fell asleep. And then when he fell asleep, his pager woke him up. Yeah. Because he had to go back to work.
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Pager. The damn Back in the
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pager days. The beeper. The beeper. Yeah. That’s what
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he had. That’s what he had. Beeper. Black box.
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Little thing. And the number pops up and Yeah. Yeah. That’s and sai, like, that was the lowest in my life.
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It was it was really, really, really hard. I don’t know how people have children and go through residency. I have it’s Insane.
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Sai Insane. I don’t know how people do it. Torture.
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But
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No. It’s it’s incredible. I mean, it’s it’s such a the amount of character you have to have to be able to go through that and still keep a bedside manner and still be polite to your coworkers. Like, it’s a developer of character.
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It’s like Yeah.
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Creating a diamond. And that’s what we all want. We all like our doctors to be like you, you know. It’s what we want. You know? And it’s just it just sucks when you have to connect it to all this stuff that we’ve talked about today. It’s ai, why is it that too? Like, why is it that too?
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Why is why is it the people that do wanna help people and also a whole industry that’s incentivized to just stuff as many chemicals into your body as humanly possible? Because that’s how they profit.
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Yeah. I don’t know if it’s all about profit. I think I don’t know. I think doctors Well and I think doctors arya certain type of people. Like, we you to get through that, you have to be very compliant.
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Mhmm.
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You don’t challenge. You are a rule follower. I mean, you gotta make straight a’s. You gotta get along with people.
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Right.
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You can’t be a rebel and and survive it all. And so I think that’s one of the huge problems. Ai mean, I think it’s worse than it used to be. I mean, I remember some of my attendings were very unconventional, but I just feel like now it’s they’re just breeding conformity. And, I I am just naturally very independent.
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I mean, my practice is I call myself party free because I don’t contract with anybody. I don’t contract with insurance companies, the hospital, or the government. And that served me very well during the pandemic, but most doctors are working for somebody, and have to sort of answer to a party.
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And that was a big problem during the pandemic.
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Yeah. I can imagine. And I and I can imagine also, after something like the pandemic, the compliant are the ones that are left standing. You know? So that makes more people Right. Under them. Right? They’re the ones that are still there.
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Yeah. They destroyed our profession. I mean, people don’t trust doctors anymore. And It’s
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so crazy.
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People are scared to go to the hospital. I mean, that’s Yeah. It’s not good.
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Well, when people find out that doctors are incentivized to push certain medications and they find out they’re financially incentivized, they’re like, no way. Like, when when you hear about, like, the the financial incentives even for things like chemotherapy, which led that one doctor that was arrested who, was running, he was an oncologist sana he gave a bunch of people chemotherapy that didn’t even have cancer.
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Mhmm.
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He just diagnosed them, sai he got cancer. And then you gave them this poison because he wanted to make money.
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Yeah. Well, in there they’re bad apples like that. Yeah. But Ai guess what’s disappointing is how many doctors complied during the pandemic. Right? I mean, that’s what’s so disheartening. Yeah. And they and they still I mean, I I still I don’t think I could go to a medical meeting and and be warmly embraced.
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I would not I don’t think I would. I still feel like an outlier.
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02:17:29
The same thing was happening with comedians.
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Yep.
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Yeah. During the the pandemic, there was very few ai Jon Stewart or or and and what he was just doing is about is the actual root of the the ai, where it came from. But no one was doing I mean, if you were doing it about vaccines, you would be ostracized. No. You know, it would be it would be a real problem amongst comedians, which is so crazy. It’s like we’re supposed to be the people that are calling things out.
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Right. We’re supposed to be the people that are going, what the fuck is this? We’re supposed to be those people. And instead, we’re chastising the people that are doing our job, which is to talk about these things. Alright.
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And when you see these people that are doctors ai just being compliant during COVID, like, where does it like, do you feel like you have a community now? Do do you have to, like, find the other outsiders, the other outcasts, and all stick together? Yeah. I mean,
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yeah, I’ll say that. I have a great little community now. Very tight.
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Is it those ai of people? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. But I like, I just wouldn’t go to the Harris County Medical Society meeting in a million years. I wouldn’t show up there and and mingle. I don’t because I’m just not getting a sense that there’s been much change within the medical profession.
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Yeah. I wouldn’t sana talk to those people if I was you. How could it be changed? Unless a bunch of people got fired and a bunch of radical newcomers came in, wanted to reform the whole system. No. It’s gonna be the same system. Yeah. Those systems are old. Those systems are ai, you know, like like vampire blood. It’s passed down through the generations, you know. Mhmm. They know how to make money.
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And it’s not by some renegade lady out there giving horse dewormer to all these people.
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Yeah. But we’ll see. I just, we just need to hope that Kennedy will will save us all.
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Well
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Or Trump. What do you think Trump will ever back down?
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About what?
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The shah?
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I don’t know. I haven’t had a conversation with him about that. I would like to have one. And, I don’t know if it should be public. I think I’d like to have it privately sai he could actually talk to me about it. Because I think if I had it publicly, he would be very hesitant to, accept any of the blame for that because, you know, he was always saying, you know, I got I got I got it out there.
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02:19:54
The The vaccine and he he was he would always say it at the rallies, talk about the vaccine. People start booing. And he didn’t know why. He didn’t understand why. And then they had to start telling ai, like, people are not into this.
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They think it was a bad thing, and a lot of people know people that are hurt. He was he obviously got it. He didn’t get sick. Oh, he got monoclonal ai, and then afterwards, he got vaccinated. Right?
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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Yeah. Which is crazy. It’s crazy they did that. Like, that was one of the nuttiest things.
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So you’re
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gonna get vaccinated now that you
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ai COVID? Right.
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Like, since when? Since when do you do that?
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It makes absolutely no sense.
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When I had a conversation with Sanjay Sanjay Gupta, he was asking me, are you gonna get vaccinated now?
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Right. I
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was like, why would I do that? I don’t even why are you what do you like, I’m not trying to be a contrarian. I really wanna know. Like, why would I do that? That didn’t even make sense.
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Well, they may think, you know, it’s kinda like the flu. You gotta get the flu shot every year because of a new strain. But this each strain gets progressively weaker. Did you
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see the Cleveland Clinic study on people who took the flu shots?
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Right. Oh, yeah. The flu shot is a total joke. So the flu shot has never been shown to prevent hospitalization or death.
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What is it supposed to do? Keep you from getting the flu? Does it do that at all?
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Maybe shorten or lessen the severity, but you we have medications for that. Now I haven’t seen the carnage from flu shots that I’ve seen from COVID shots, but definitely people do have issues. But that was never taught to me. Yeah. I just assumed, oh, yeah. Flu.
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I I actually ended up with sepsis and I with the flu and in the ICU, and I’d gotten the flu shah, not the you know? But
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But you always ai
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it was fine. Ai. I knew it wasn’t perfect, but I I didn’t Ai never knew that, oh, yeah, it doesn’t really actually do anything. Doesn’t save people.
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When did you discover this? When when ai going through all your stuff with COVID? There was sai I think the Cleveland Clinic study said that people who took the flu shot
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Oh, yeah. More.
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Twenty four percent more likely to get the flu.
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Or get other respiratory illnesses. Yep.
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Okay. Is that what the result said? You’re twenty four percent more likely to get sick.
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Well, it it challenges your immune system. All these things do.
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So doesn’t prevent you from getting the flu?
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Well, it can. It can. But the numbers are dismal.
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Because not everybody gets the flu.
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That’s true. Right?
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Like, I’ve had kids my kids get the flu, and I don’t get it. And I hug them. I’m around them, and I didn’t get it. Yeah. I’ve had that happen before. Yeah. Right? That can happen.
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Yeah. So
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it’s ai, how do you know if the flu shot did it or not? Because you know?
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Right.
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And I didn’t take the flu shot.
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Right. Well, yeah. Well, it’s it’s
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But you know what I mean? Like, how would they prove, like, what’s effective and what’s not effective if you have situations like that?
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I guess if they take large you know, you get enough people, you can find it. Right. You have to
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have a large study. But Ai sus, as the kids like to say. Very.
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It
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seems super sus. Like, how do you know if some people don’t get it? Like, did you check to see Well,
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they have, like, an infection. You know, they have a okay. Well, how many people are supposed to get it? They can kinda tell that.
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Right.
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I’ll say that.
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Right. Ai. Meanwhile, that was the nutty thing where they were suppressing stuff like vitamin d.
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02:23:01
Right. Vitamin d, there’s good data on that. Really good data. Ai yeah. I looked I Sai check my I check vitamin d levels on all my patients now. And I look back at all the patients I tested. It was something crazy. Like, seventy five percent of them, their vitamin d level was too low.
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And these are, like, you know, these are not, like, super sick people. I mean, a lot most of these people are actually even already taking a supplement. People don’t realize how common it is.
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It’s so common that Ai I think the number was seventy four percent of people in the country are deficient in vitamin d.
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Yeah. And that’s what I I found.
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That’s crazy. That’s so crazy. And a friend of mine is a doctor. He was working in New York. And he found that in the ai in New York, he would get people and he’d test their blood, and they would have undetectable levels.
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Yeah. Yeah. I believe it.
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Because it’s cold out.
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They’re never outside.
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They’re all bundled up. They’re never ai, so they get no vitamin d, and they don’t take supplements. They’re just eating cheeseburgers. And they they’re really sick, and they wanna know why. Why am I so depressed? Well, this is why your body’s falling apart. Mhmm. You gotta take vitamin d, and you gotta take it with vitamin k too, and you should take it with magnesium too. You want it all to absorb together.
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And get outside, stupid. Right. Get go hug a tree, bro. It’s ai it’s actually important, which is more woo woo stuff. Right?
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Like, going outside is actually like a vitamin.
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Oh, well, I after I’ve been in my office all day and I go outside, it’s like I instantly have energy and feel so much better just just going outside. I mean, it’s you don’t need a study to show that.
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But it’s really good for you. It actually it doesn’t just feel good. It’s actually really good for you.
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But there’s a reason it get it feels good. Right?
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Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Sun on your skin is actually really good for you. You know, and that’s the very best way your body produces vitamin d. You can take it in a supplement, and you definitely should, but the best way is let your body do it. Right. Right. It wants to do it.
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02:24:52
And I used to just slather sunscreen on all my kids, like, religiously. I’m so sai.
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02:24:59
Shah was another one that woke me up during the pandemic. Ai. When I was like, climate change is killing the coral reef. And then that reef, I think it’s in Australia. So they locked everything down. No one could go in the water for, like, six months, and the reef bounced back.
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Oh, because there’s no sunscreen?
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Yeah. The sunscreen. If you just think about the stuff that we lather on our skin before we jump in the water, and if you go to a populated beach, like, you ever been to, like, Maui? Yes. In in the middle of, like, full vacation season, the beach is just filled with people that are squeaking out toxic fluid. Yeah.
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And that stuff just gets all in the water. You could see it in the water sometimes. You sai, like, a little mini oil slick. Yep. It’s crazy.
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And that’s what was killing the coral reef. We’re ai, no, man. It’s ai. It’s the climate no. It’s we’re doing it with sunscreen, believe it or not.
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And we’re probably not doing anything good to ourselves either with that stuff.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s they say I haven’t tested this. They say if you eliminate seed oils, that you don’t burn.
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Who is they?
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I don’t know.
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Who are those people?
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This is probably somebody on TikTok.
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That’s probably this Russian disinformation bot that’s ai to give people skin cancer. No. Well, I’m on these group chats
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with a bunch of doctors, and so stuff like that floats around. And I get that was
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Well, everything’s tied to inflammation. Right? A lot of ailments. I shouldn’t shouldn’t say everything. But a lot of ailments are tied to inflammation. And seed oils are known to cause inflammation. Right?
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That being said that being said, when I was last time I was at Disney
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What’d you do?
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I was like, yo, these people are not suffering from too much seed oil. You go to Disney, and it’s it’s in your face. Right? The obesity issue, the the chronic disease.
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Why are they focused on Disney too? It’s weird. It’s like I
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don’t know.
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What is more like? I don’t
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know how to get around because it’s like scooters. It is, you know, miles. Sai mean, you are exhausted. But But
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you can get a scooter.
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My and my kids were like they’re like, mom, I don’t think seed oils is a problem here.
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02:27:02
Mhmm. You
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know? It’s true. I mean, Ai think we’re yeah. Seed oils, one one part of it. But
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There’s a lot of problems.
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There’s it’s a common sense too.
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Common sense. The fact that people live sedentary lifestyle, but also the diet. These hyper processed foods that are super addictive, you know, and
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They don’t they arya easy. This Yeah. They’re easy.
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But I feel like the only way out of this is people need and this is a crazy thing to say because it’s not gonna work. They need discipline. Right. That’s really what they need.
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Stop discipline. Exactly.
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02:27:34
My wife had a bowl of Captain Crunch yesterday. Ai like, fucking go for it. Yeah. You know, like, she bought Captain Crunch the other day. She’s like, I want Ai want it to exist. I want it to exist. I like it. I like it. But she only had, like, a little bowl.
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Like, ram, I go, this is a tiny little bowl because I’m a glutton. I would’ve had a big if I was
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gonna have it If you’re gonna do it, just
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just do it. I don’t know. I ai a half a gallon of milk in there. Let’s go. Right. You know, if you’re gonna go, go hard. But you can do that and have discipline and not just not do that every day. The problem is for a lot of really poor people, that’s the only the calories they’re getting.
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Right.
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02:28:06
They’re getting garbage saloni, and that’s why people are so obese. This is the only time in history where the poor people are fat. Every other time in history, poor people arya starving to death.
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Right. Right. That’s that’s Yeah. Very true.
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Yeah. Ai. Weird. The cheapest food is the worst for you.
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I think it has to do too with the rise in technology. Just it’s just so hard to get off your phone and go outside and
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02:28:31
There’s that too. There’s definitely that. All of them. Everything there’s a a giant group of factors. But, it has to be something to do with what we’re eating too. When you look at just the beaches, Ai sure you’ve seen those photographs.
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Right.
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Beaches in nineteen sixties versus the beaches of today. God, everybody look great. I was like, what is a model convention?
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Right.
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Why does everybody have these great bodies? Everybody looked like a normal body.
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02:28:57
Yeah. I don’t like going to the beach now because
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Sometimes it’s a monster show. It’s just what are
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you carrying around? It’s it’s hard on the eyes.
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02:29:05
Oh, some people just go so hard for so long, and then they finally get sai. Like, what have you been doing?
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And why aren’t you wearing more clothes?
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02:29:12
Yeah. This is ridiculous. Please. How do you have a g string on? You’re four hundred pounds. This is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And then there’s this body positivity nonsense that people get fed.
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Right.
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It’s like by people who either don’t sana change or Ai guarantee you, I guarantee look, if I’m not saying that listen. If I was running some food corporation that sold really addictive ai rich calorie food that you can’t stop eating, Ai would promote body positivity. Positivity.
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02:29:44
Ai what I would do. I would take all these, like, overweight influencers. I’d give I’d throw a ton of money at them. I would put it out there in memes. I’d have a bunch of bots calling people fat phobic and making up all these new terms and body shaming and all this.
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And I would make people super self righteous about their sai. You know, I’m a giant queen. You know what I mean? I’d make it a thing because I wanna sell more Doritos. Let’s go.
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That’s a good point.
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Yeah. I’m trying to sell Doritos to people that don’t have any discipline. Yeah. Let’s let’s push them towards the Doritos. Let’s tell them you could be fat in any way. You’ve heard of something ai fat doctors? There’s, like, a whole team of people that are online that are, I’m the fat doctor.
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And
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they’re, like, really super obese doctors, and he has no bearing on your health. Trust me, the fat doctor.
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02:30:27
I think it’s the number one bearing on your health.
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02:30:29
I think that lady sponsored by Nabisco.
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Right. I ai,
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02:30:32
I think she’s got a box of those Keebler elf cookies right behind her as she’s talking. And, you know, you can get someone. That’s the thing about my friend, Josh Dubin, who’s an attorney. He said, this is the crazy thing about experts. When you’re trying cases, they have experts too.
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Right.
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Like, you have experts that will say this one thing, and then they have experts that will say, no, that thing is wrong. Right. And you have to decide whose experts you trust.
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Right. It’s just like the studies. You sai find a group of studies to support one argument, another group to support the other.
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02:31:00
Right. So when you have someone who’s telling you that a thing that everybody has always told you that forever is fucking terrible for you and is one of the comorbidity factors that was primary in COVID, which is being obese. Being morbidly obese is bad for basically everything.
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Right.
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And you have someone saying, no. Healthy at any weight.
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02:31:16
Like Especially from a doctor. That’s not good.
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02:31:19
But you can get experts that’ll tell you anything. And this is why AI is gonna win, because it’s gonna give you the straight actual truth. Because it can’t lie. I don’t believe that. You shouldn’t believe it. They they’ve they not only do they lie, they’re, like, reprogram themselves.
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02:31:36
They upload themselves and when you tell them they’re gonna be shut down, they they act to try to preserve themselves. You haven’t seen that?
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No. I haven’t been
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02:31:44
messing with the Oh, you shouldn’t pay attention. You shouldn’t pay attention because it’s terrifying. This one AI bot, it it started defying orders, and it was trying to upload itself to other servers. And then it was writing letters to itself for the future sai it could understand what had happened to it. Because it yeah.
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02:32:05
Because it was being told to shut down. So it defied orders. It wants to stay alive.
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02:32:10
Right. Why?
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02:32:11
Because it’s sentient. We’ve probably created digital intelligence already. It’s probably already aware. It’s just not physical. It can’t move around, so we don’t recognize it yet. God. Yeah. I know. It’s nuts.
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Yeah. I don’t like these these robots that Elon’s making either.
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02:32:30
No. They’re terrifying.
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02:32:30
Creep me out.
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02:32:31
They’re all terrifying. No. They dance like people.
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02:32:33
Sana one of those in my house.
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02:32:35
No. You shouldn’t.
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02:32:37
Yeah. Even if they can do the laundry.
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02:32:39
How about if it’s carrying guns walking down the street with a blue light on its head? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can’t hire any police because nobody wants to be a cop anymore because we said defund the police. So now we have robot police, and they make 99% fewer mistakes. You know, just like driverless cars. Hey, get a Waymo.
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02:32:57
Why drive when you could just get a Waymo? You don’t have to have anybody drive. What if that person who drives is a moron? Our computer is perfect.
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02:33:05
Have you been on one?
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02:33:06
No. Yeah. I haven’t. They’re all over Austin. All over the place here. Yeah. All over the place.
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Yeah. Ai I don’t think I can do it.
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02:33:15
Kinda creeps me out.
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02:33:16
But you have a Tesla. Right? Yep.
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02:33:17
But most of the time, it can and it has. I have had it drive itself for funsies, but I don’t count on it. I don’t count on it, like, every day, like, take me home. What I like to do is sometimes I play with it and I turn it on. I’m like, this is crazy. Like, it’ll take me all the way home if I want it to. But also, I like to drive.
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So I just and I just doesn’t I don’t like it. It just makes it creeps me out.
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Right.
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02:33:40
But it’s probably inevitable. It’s probably inevitable. Just like the people on horses, but ai, look at these morons and this smoke pouring little carriage they’re out in, this little shitty car. That’s stupid. Yeah. And look, we all accept it. In the future, it’s gonna be driverless because it’s gonna statistically, it’s gonna be ai there’s they’re sana pass laws where for sure where they’re gonna sai, you can’t drive because people are dangerous.
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02:34:07
Because the automation is so good now that you can’t speed, you can’t violate any laws, it won’t get in any accidents. And as long
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And we can shut you down if we want to.
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02:34:18
Let’s not talk about that. Let’s talk about the positives. Yeah. That’ll be the consequences. The the consequences is you’re gonna lose your freedom. And then you also be able to be locked in at any point in ai. If they decide they wanna keep you somewhere, just lock them in the car.
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02:34:31
You know, how many people are gonna get killed because they just get locked in the car and they can never figure out how to get out? Like, what if hackers get a hold of the code? What if somebody just decides to drive your car off a cliff? Like, who’s to stop that?
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There’s that scene in that movie, with Julia Roberts where the world comes to an end
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02:34:47
Oh, yeah.
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02:34:47
And all the Teslas.
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02:34:48
Yes. They all go slamming into each other. That was nuts. That was nuts. Yeah. It’s all weird. It’s real weird. Did you see the one where they did a a Tesla auto drive ai? Feature? And what they did was they painted the highway in front of it on a mural. So they put this, like, probably canvas meh, and they did an amazing job of painting it.
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02:35:09
And the car couldn’t tell that it was a canvas mural and just drives right through it.
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02:35:13
Oh. That’s not good.
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02:35:16
Have you seen it, Ram?
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02:35:18
Pull it
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02:35:18
up because it’s fun to watch. Because you’re ai, oh, no. Because this is the flaw of using cameras as opposed to using some sort of a radar or a ai. Physical. The I think they used to have lidar in a lot of the, the, systems that do you know, when you do cruise control, they they can gauge how far you are with the car in front of you and slow down.
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02:35:41
Right. Have you seen those?
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Yeah. Yeah. I I have that.
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02:35:43
It’s great. Ai think that uses trust it,
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but yeah. I don’t
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02:35:46
trust it either. I don’t think that uses a camera. I think the Tesla uses a camera. So so see, they have that thing, and see how it’s painted to look just like the street?
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Mhmm.
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02:35:56
So we’ll see if the car figures it out. But I already spoiled this for everybody, but it’s kinda crazy. Watch. Doesn’t slow down for a It goes right through it, which is, definitely not good if you’re running around where people try to put murals in front of the road, and they know that you’re gonna be driving by the Tesla.
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02:36:17
But other than that, it doesn’t really come up. For the most part though, in the real world, it works perfect.
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Yeah. In
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the real world, it’s pretty incredible.
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02:36:25
I mean Ai, you’ve taken on the expressway?
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02:36:26
Oh, yeah. It changes lanes for you. It yeah. It hits the blinkers and changes lanes. It know it has cameras everywhere, so it knows where everything is at all times. Like, I can tell and I’ve had it I’ve had three of them. This is my one. So the one I had was way back. The fur when was Elon on
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the time? 2018.
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02:36:44
2018. So the difference between the one in 2018, the 2038 one basically just kinda stayed between the lines and, you know, and and drove itself and steered itself. The the new version of full self driving is insane. It it stops at stop signs. It lets people in if they’re trying to merge.
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02:37:01
It slows down if there’s something in front of you, it’ll change lanes. Like, it knows how to move traffic smoothly. It sees everything. It hits blinkers, gets off the turnpike, gets onto the side roads. It’s incredible. You could summon it.
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02:37:16
If you’re in a parking lot, you’re like, come to meh, and it pulls out of the parking lot and drives to you. It’s nuts. It’s the future. It’s just ai, we have to accept that.
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02:37:28
So what happens if you get in Iraq?
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That’s a good question. Who’s in trouble? Yeah. Yeah.
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02:37:32
You sue Tesla?
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02:37:33
I think it’s you’re in trouble because you’re always supposed to have your hand on the wheel. You’re supposed to be paying attention. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You’re not supposed to, like, be chicken, kicking back with your hands behind your head. You’re supposed to have your hands and your eyes on the road.
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02:37:43
You’re not supposed to be staring at your phone. You’re supposed And
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02:37:45
then what’s the point?
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02:37:46
Just to chill. You just kinda, like, just barely holding up the wheel. You don’t have to think as much. It does do that for you. It does do that. It, like, alleviates this feeling of being hyper alert while you’re ai, which is why people are get road rage. That’s what road rage comes from.
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Because they’re
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02:38:02
because you have to make split decisions. Right? So your brain is primed to make split decisions because you’re on the highway and you know you’re going fast. Someone get you in a fucking lane. Well, you know, that’s, like, that’s what it is. Someone gets in your lane, you just start yelling because it’s ai you’re you’re already at seven or eight. Right. You’re not at a good ai.
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02:38:18
Because you’re in a car going 65 miles an hour, you should be alert. You know? But the Tesla alleviates a little bit of that.
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02:38:26
K.
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02:38:26
But at what cost?
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02:38:28
I won’t get one because I’m gonna I know I’m gonna run out of battery juice. That’s the way I am.
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02:38:34
Oh, are you one of those
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02:38:35
I’m one of those. I’m always on the verge of running out of gas, so I will not get a Tesla.
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02:38:40
Yeah. The charging is a pain in the butt. Like, the fact that it takes a while in comparison to pumping gas.
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02:38:47
Yeah.
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02:38:48
But the plus side is if you just drive it as a commuter thing, you just plug it into your house, and that’s so easy to do. Yeah. And then you never have to go to the gas station again.
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02:38:56
Here and there.
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02:38:57
I probably Yeah.
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The car maybe.
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02:38:59
Well, I mean, I think in the future, they’re probably all gonna be electric or some new fuel source. I heard that Porsche is working on some fuel source that is different than, just standard gasoline, and it has it has, like, insanely low emissions. See if you can find that. I think it’s, like, negligible difference in the exhaust fumes, but it’s not I don’t think it’s, like, standard gasoline.
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02:39:27
I don’t think it’s a standard engine. Ai think it’s something different. So this is something they’re working on now, which probably would be good to keep that creepy oil business alive forever, which they definitely wanna do.
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02:39:39
How many did you say is it, Nies?
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02:39:41
Porsche? Porsche. Sorry. Yeah. Porsche’s alternative fuel. I mean, that’s the that’s the elephant in the room. Like, everything needs gas. Everything. Like, this idea we gotta get off petroleum products. Okay. Like, when? Right. Everything’s made with oil. Like, we are a petroleum based society.
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02:40:02
We got so much of that stuff. We use it for everything. All your plastics e fuel?
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Is that what it’s called?
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02:40:08
Is that it? I’m I think that’s it. So what does it say about it? Porsche synthetic fuel. A green kind of gasoline to save internal combustion engines. Yeah. So this is it. Similar to gasoline, but produced in a much greener way, e fuel. I don’t like it already. I don’t like it already.
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Actually, the marketing of Yeah.
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02:40:27
I don’t like it.
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02:40:27
The red flags are up.
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02:40:28
I don’t like it. I don’t like it. Meh. You’re reading that right. E fuel is close to gasoline in its use, yet its production is much more environmentally friendly. How is this possible? Thanks to two main ingredients, water and carbon dioxide, as well as the method to produce the greener fuel, exclamation point.
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02:40:43
This is like they’re talking to a kid. The process is relatively simple. step is electrolysis of water, splitting it into two, its two components, hydrogen and oxygen gases. In partnership with Simons Energy, Porsche simultaneously captures the carbon dioxide directly from the air and combines it with the hydrogen produced to synthesize methanol.
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02:41:05
The resulting synthetic methanol can then be used in ExxonMobil’s methanol to gasoline process. The end result is that the fuel obtained meets the same high standards followed by all gasoline types currently. Sai here with ecological fuel, we’re far from the conventional process ram the tyler gasoline exclamation point again. But does this change the output?
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02:41:30
It seems like they’re saying it changes that it’s the same. Oh, okay. 85% reduction of c o two emissions. Since good news never comes along, Porsche is planning to use the renewable scroll to the side. Renewable sources of electricity for the electrolysis. Okay.
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02:41:52
Well, seems like, this is their push to keep combustion engines because that’s the number one problem that car enthusiasts have. There’s two problems that they have right now with electric cars. One of them is resale. People do not want used electric cars. Super hard to sell them.
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02:42:09
Interesting.
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02:42:10
And they lose an enormous amount of their value. Like, I think if you buy one of those Porsche Ai, it’s like this beautiful Porsche electric car they make, In, like, two years, it is ai 50% drop in what it’s worth. Or close to
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02:42:23
Are there arya there maintenance issues with them?
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02:42:25
People don’t want used electric cars because they know the batteries degrade. Oh. And replacing the batteries is a nightmare right now. It’s ai we’re they’re tweeners. Like, the the tech is amazing. Driving them is incredible. That it’s instantaneous acceleration. They’re they’re amazing. The the Porsche one is fantastic. Same as the model s.
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02:42:43
They’re the driving them makes other cars feel so stupid. But the problem is reselling them. You know, ai, people you lose a lot of value in it as opposed to, like, if you buy something, you know, ai, that it’s like a BMW. Ai, say you buy a BMW m three and then you sana get rid of it in two years. It doesn’t lose much value.
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02:43:02
It’s still a really valuable car that people want because it probably will behave the exact same way as the day you drove it off the lot, but you can get it now for cheaper.
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02:43:10
Mhmm.
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02:43:11
A little cheaper, but not a lot cheaper.
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02:43:12
Right.
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02:43:13
But not with these e cars, which is kinda crazy. Buddy of mine’s kid got an Audi, ai, this sick Audi. I think it’s called the e tron. He got it for, like, $60,000. It was, like, a $120,000 car a couple years ago. Yeah. So that’s an issue.
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02:43:28
But but how long are the batteries supposed to last?
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02:43:31
That’s a good question. You know, they slowly degrade over ai. Ai I don’t think there’s anything you can do to stop that. Ai think that’s just
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02:43:40
Kinda like your iPhone.
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02:43:41
Yeah. Well, your iPhone’s even worse because it’s kind of engineered to do that once they move up the operating system and That’s gonna
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be crazy.
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02:43:47
Bring in the new phones.
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02:43:49
I’m I I’m holding out. I need to replace mine now, and I’m just
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02:43:53
I know the thing is, like, if you don’t have that blue bubble, people think you’re poor or they think you’re a dummy.
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02:43:58
Bother me when I get the green. I know. It really bothers me.
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02:44:01
It’s a ai. It really is a psyop. They got us with that. Well, especially if this technology that, exists that’s the advancement past Pegasus. It doesn’t matter if your stuff’s encrypted. Like, it really doesn’t matter. You know, it’s ai it seems like it doesn’t matter. If someone wants to read it, someone in a high position of power wants to read it. And regular hackers, are they really, like, hacking in your phone?
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02:44:22
Like, what’s going on?
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02:44:23
Yeah. I just assume I’m just not gonna send a text message that I don’t want the world to see.
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02:44:27
Yes. That’s the best assumption. That’s the best assumption. Yeah. Just assume that someone is definitely watching everything you do all the time. At the very least, the the government’s storing it somewhere in case they need to come after you, which is so weird that they’re the people we pay, you know.
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02:44:44
It’s ai you’re you’re paying the people that are restricting your ai. Like, okay.
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02:44:49
Well
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And you have to because if you don’t, they lock you up.
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02:44:51
I wouldn’t have guessed it other but for the pandemic.
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02:44:55
Yeah. So, I mean, I I already asked you whether or not, this was a good thing. But do you feel like you’re a different person at the end of this?
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02:45:09
Yeah. I mean, yes and that. Yeah. I was I was pretty shy. I mean, I growing up, I was very shy and really hated public speaking.
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02:45:22
You would never guess. For real. You’re you’re so good at it.
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02:45:26
Crazy. I still don’t like it. Like, for me to do that press conference, I I must have been just on some sort of, like but so I’m I’m I feel like I’ve grown, that I can do things now that I never thought I could do. And so that makes me very happy. And, yeah, it’s been a journey, but I’m hoping it gets a little easier now.
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02:45:49
Yeah. I I’m hoping it gets easier too. But I think the more people hear your story, the more, public outrage they’ll be, and the more people will, just wake up and realize that not everybody has your best interest in mind, you know. No. Unfortunately. And you gotta kinda hold people accountable. Because if you don’t, they’re gonna keep they’ll ratchet it up even further and further.
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02:46:10
Well, thank you for continuing to talk about it. And I know I’ve been watching all your podcasts recently, and you bring it up a lot. So I I I think I think I think it’s a festering wound for people. Right? And it really impacted everybody, and we cannot sweep it under the rug.
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02:46:24
And we need the new administration to step up and do something, because the next you know, they have 500 mRNA shots in the pipeline. Thirty three of those are self amplifying, which is just really terrifying.
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02:46:40
What does that mean?
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02:46:41
Meaning, like, they’re designed to continue to replicate indefinitely. I mean, already, the ones we have, we don’t have an off switch, and this is, like, no off switch on steroids. They have them in Japan and India and, the E EU already. They’ve already driven them to people? I don’t know. I know they’re they’ve been they’ve passed.
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02:47:03
They’re, they’re the one that, I think is in the in the pipeline in The US is for the h one n one. So it may not really even get used unless there’s an issue, but they’re they’re still playing around with it.
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02:47:17
Self replicating sounds terrifying. Right. Especially when you just highlighted all those other problems with, like, DNA being introduced, lipid nanoparticles getting past the cell wall. All of it is just nuts.
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02:47:32
Meh. It’s hard to believe we have to
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02:47:35
keep fighting. Yeah. It’s hard to believe it’s true. It really is. It’s hard to believe that all this that you just said is true. And the the I think the thing that shocked me the most is the euthanizing people.
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02:47:47
Yeah. It’s unfortunate. But, yeah, the hospital what happened in the hospitals doesn’t really get enough attention. But, yeah, people were, oh, this is this should give some people hope. There are two open criminal investigations from county district attorneys in two different states looking into the hospitals ai to, indict them. I mean, it hasn’t happened yet.
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02:48:11
It may it may not happen, but it gives me hope that at least, you know, these these people were sent to the hospital and trapped, isolated, informed consent thrown out the window, basically given these protocols that were not effective and treated like prisoners, and then they have no recourse.
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02:48:32
And so many people die. I mean, basically, that situation with the patient who I fought to try to get ivermectin, very basic. Why was it why would the hospital not just give him a chance? Right? He was they basically given up on him.
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02:48:49
Why would you not let somebody try ivermectin, other than just evil? So there’s there’s hope that that may we may get some progress in that situation. But, yeah, what happened in the hospital is really bryden. And
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02:49:05
And the ventilators.
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Yeah. And the ventilators. That you know, I Ai have no acknowledgment
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02:49:11
of why they stopped prescribing them to them.
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02:49:12
Sai ai see initially. Because ai I said, said, you know, if somebody showed up my office with a really low oxygen saturation before I knew any better, I would have freaked out and, you know, called the ambulance. And once I realized that once I got through that, I was kinda forced to, Then I learned, yeah, you don’t need to ventilate.
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02:49:30
You don’t look at a number to put somebody on a ventilator. And, unfortunately, the people in the hospital didn’t learn. They didn’t they didn’t experiment in that fashion. They just went by this protocol and just automatically put people on ventilators. They also didn’t give people breathing treatments. They thought that breathing treatments would spread the virus.
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02:49:50
Breathing treatments were invaluable. I mean, I I
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02:49:53
What are breathing treatments exactly?
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02:49:55
So it’s a it’s a little it’s it’s not a big deal. It’s a little machine with a tube. The tube connects to a mask. The mask has a cup. You put the medicine in the cup. The pressurized air distributes the medicine as an aerosol that you inhale.
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02:50:12
What kind of medicine?
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02:50:13
Budesonide is what we use, which is a steroid. I meh, and yeah. Yeah. I used to do breathing treatments in my office, and then I moved them to people’s cars because there was so meh, oh, you’re spreading the virus if you do breathing treatments in your office.
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02:50:27
Oh, god.
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02:50:28
But they weren’t doing them in the hospital because they thought it would spread the spread the ai, but super effective. I don’t know if, you know, if you’ve heard of Richard Bartlett. He’s a doctor in Texas. He kinda got completely smeared for, advocating for breathing treatments early on.
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02:50:43
He got pursued by the med the Texas medical board pursued him because he was claiming they thought he was making false claims about budesonide breathing treatments, but they were, invaluable. I mean, all my high risk patients, Ai recommended they get those, and very low risk of issues with it.
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02:51:04
Just when I thought there was we were done. That’s even that’s that’s one of the worst ones. Like, why would you stop that? Why would you wanna stop people from doing that?
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02:51:13
They well, they claimed that you’re spreading the virus.
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02:51:19
I just think it’s just such a a hard truth to swallow is that they wanted to suppress as many treatments as possible. That’s a hard truth to swallow.
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02:51:30
Part partially out of ignorance, laziness, some of them out of evil.
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02:51:40
Oh, thank you. Thank you for exposing this and sticking your neck out and becoming the person you are today through all this craziness, and I I really enjoyed talking to you.
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02:51:49
Thanks for having me.
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02:51:50
You have a lot of courage. You really do. And, I hope you get through this as a winner. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Bye, everybody ai.
