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#2327 – AJ Gentile Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the discussion revolves around a variety of intriguing and controversial topics, with a focus on conspiracy theories, government secrecy, and the dissemination of information. The conversation touches on the potential existence of extraterrestrial crafts and biological entities allegedly in possession of the U.S. government, and the implications of disclosing such information. The episode also delves into the challenges of distinguishing between credible information and misinformation, particularly in the context of COVID-19 and media narratives.
A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to the exploration of conspiracy theories, such as the HAARP project and Project Bluebeam, with an emphasis on the skepticism surrounding these theories. The speakers also reflect on the impact of media and government manipulation on public perception and the importance of independent research.
The episode features a guest who shares personal experiences in the entertainment industry and the transition to creating content on platforms like YouTube, focusing on science and unusual topics. The guest emphasizes the importance of making complex topics accessible and engaging for a broad audience, encouraging listeners to pursue their own research and interests.
Actionable insights from the episode include the encouragement to question mainstream narratives, conduct independent research, and remain open-minded about unconventional ideas. The recurring theme is the pursuit of knowledge and understanding, even when faced with skepticism or controversy. Overall, the episode promotes curiosity and critical thinking as tools for navigating complex and often obscured information landscapes.
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#2327 – AJ Gentile Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Ai my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Thank you so much, bro. We’re doing this? Yes. I’m glad you brought We alien echofish.
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You did not have to do that. I appreciate it.
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I fucking love your channel, dude. I’ve spent countless hours watching your hilarious videos.
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So cool that you’ve even found it.
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Well, you know, Gino told me about it a lot your brother, Gino, who I’ve been friends with for years, told me about it a long time ago that you guys were doing this. And I was like, really? Alright. Interesting. And then I ai them, like, this is fucking great. It’s right up my alley.
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You would show clips all the ai, and it would drive Gino nuts. And then ai, it it got named Reggie Watts was here. He’s like, you ever hear of the Ai Files? You guys are talking about moon landing shit. And you’re like, what’s that? And, I don’t know. A week or two later, Gina gets a text. Are you the Y Files?
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He didn’t tell me the name of it.
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But he was so excited.
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Yeah. It’s a great show, dude. It’s ai everything I’m fascinated by. Anunnaki, aliens, secret bases. How did you get involved with making a show like this? Is this something you’ve always been interested in?
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All I mean, like, grew up Art Bell. Yes.
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Dad. There he is.
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There he is. The I mean, the goat. The goat. Dad was an overnight cop, so always overnight radio. And so it was always doctor Demento. Yes. You remember him? And and Art Bell. So I kinda grew up with the weird stories, and it just got in the Twilight Zone. We watched as kids.
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It sai, like, required watching from dad in the old black and whites, the classics. Sai that was always in there. So, I’ll I’ll skip twenty years. We had a a podcasting studio in LA on Sunset. We’re doing pretty well. Hosting a lot of shows, guys you knew.
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Like, when COVID hit, Kill Tony came and worked out of our studio. Jeremiah, Metzger, all all the guys didn’t make any money, but it was a cool setup. But then they locked down the city, impossibly, and, we didn’t really know what to do. Then they set fire to the city somehow.
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And, the wife and I are racing down Hollywood Boulevard being chased by people with bats and and boxes of Adidas. And, we’re like, this is this went this is too meh. And we just started packing. That’s it. We got out. And I didn’t know what to do.
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So, now I’ve been working in showbiz, not super successfully, like, on the cusp, but I’ve been a professional host, editor, producer, writer for TV. So I was like, YouTube. Easy. I’m a natural. So I started the channel talking about science and weird stuff, and it was the hardest thing Sai ever did.
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It was it was, like, impossible to do. And I started out, like, following all the consultants. Yeah. High energy. Smash the like. Be a YouTuber. Top 10 list.
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And I did that for a little while. It’s like, no one’s watching. This feels stupid. And then I just I sai, fuck it. Let me just talk about the shit I ai talk about. So I I think I would the first, like, good one was Operation Highjump.
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You know, Admiral Byrd goes down to Antarctica with a with a armed fleet, supposedly looking for a Nazi UFOs, and it’s a six month mission. And in, like, a few days, they have to turn back and this crazy stuff. So I did that story and got a you know, I think I got 50,000 views.
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I don’t think I saw that one.
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It’s an old one.
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What happened in Operation Highjump?
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Alright. Admiral Byrd goes down. This is just after the war. Remember, the Nazis were were fleeing to South Meh. Mhmm. So mostly Argentina. So, the Nazis had established or tried to establish a base in Antarctica. That’s true. It’s Neuschwabenland. Now people say they were trying to build a Nazi base and all that stuff. They were really just looking for a whaling station to get oil.
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So Hitler didn’t sana rely on outside sources. Saloni, anyway, after the war, they go down there. We still don’t really know specifically why. It was supposed to be just to see how our aircraft would operate in cold weather. That was what they said.
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But this was a fleet that was armed to the teeth, like, super like, armed. The first helicopters were there, destroyers. So they go down there. It’s supposed to be a month a a multi month mission, maybe six months. They get down there and in, like, a matter of weeks, maybe even fewer, they just they just bail. And, no one really knows why.
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There’s a press con contingent there. No one knows what’s going on. And Admiral Byrd starts giving these weird interviews, and the first one was in Spanish. It might have been either Argentinian or Brazilian newspaper. And he talks about how there could be these craft that attack The United States from the poles and craft that can fly pole to pole.
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And people are like, what is what’s that? And just sparked this crazy stuff. And you can hear him talking about these things. So Ai goes down there to look for stuff. We don’t really know why they left.
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Admiral Byrd was talking about these crafts?
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Admiral Richard e Byrd is famous ai, flew the North Pole Uh-huh. Like a super badass. He was, on paper, the the commanding officer, but he preferred to just fly his plane and do stuff. So the legend is they get down there, admiral Byrd takes his plane, starts flying across Antarctica, and sees patches of green. He doesn’t can’t believe it.
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And he’s and he’s on the radio saying, I’m seeing this rolling hills. Sun is shining. He keeps flying. It gets greener and greener, and then he’s ai, I just saw woolly mammoths. Wooly mammoths grazing in the green.
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And he keeps going and he’s on the radio and then he’s talking. I’m seeing all this stuff. The sun is bright and then radio contact goes out. He’s flying and flying. Suddenly he’s engulfed in light and he doesn’t know where he is. The the green is behind him.
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He’s just flying in light, just trying to get his bearings, and then up beside him, two flying saucers just kinda next to him. Almost like, you know, the f t f 16 is trying to wave you down.
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It’s two
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flying saucers. And he looks over, and they have swastikas on them. And he’s ai, uh-oh. So he’s on the speak, and he feels the stick shaking, and then the stick just goes dead. And then he goes down with the UFOs, and they just land into a cavern in the hollow Earth. Right? So that’s how that happens.
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And they take Admiral Byrd out, and they’re tall aliens. The ai
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With swastikas on their crafts.
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On the crafts.
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Like the ancient symbol.
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I don’t know. Would you be reversed? Right?
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Well, I think there was a bunch of different versions. I think the Nazi one, it was, like, kinda tilted.
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Yes.
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But there was a bunch of the Hindu ones and a lot of the Japanese ones.
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For for thousands of years. Yeah. A positive symbol of life and prosperity. We don’t know how they’re oriented because I debunked all this. I’m telling you the legend.
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Right.
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Because that’s kind of my format. Right.
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Right. Right. I
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get Ai get you excited.
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We should explain that to people. You you meh everybody all jazzed up, and at the end, you kinda.
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I get so much heat for it.
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Yeah. It’s fun.
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And I watch the numbers. Like, as soon as I say, but is it true? Like, everyone’s done. Nobody wants another truth. Wants to know.
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They sana know fun.
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And then I’ll get the hate mail. You ruined it for me.
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So what is the truth?
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The, the truth is a lot of that comes from admiral Byrd’s diary, which was discovered years later, which was not his diary. Oh. Right. Oh, yeah. Horseshit. And and he he flew the North Pole, not the South Pole. But here’s the interesting thing. He was in a single man aircraft and only had so much fuel.
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He was which can only fly for a little bit. He was out of radio contact for three hours. Nobody knows where he went.
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What was his take on it?
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It we don’t really know. That’s kind of So
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it’s just he went radio silent for three hours, and the legend grew.
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It’s ai he did that interview as soon as they got back, and then something must have happened because he got real quiet. But he would go on TV and he would talk, but the pole to pole thing was he was just warning that the poles are a vulnerable space. Like, we need to keep an eye on the North Pole because if there’s a base on North or South Pole, you can attack from there.
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So let’s keep an eye on that. That was kind of his point.
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The the Antarctica situation is very strange because, I don’t know if you ever saw the Sean Ryan show where he talked to this guy that worked with the neutrino detector down there, and he was, yeah,
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have you seen that? I haven’t seen Sean do it, but I know the guy.
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And the guy was saying that it’s not just a neutrino detector. It’s a direct energy weapon that can cause earthquakes and
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This is ai the DEWs. The US has always been fascinated by
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the Directed into Ai.
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That’s where the, like, the HAARP conspiracies ai from and all of that. And if if if you don’t know what HAARP is, that’s the ai altitude of rural research project. It’s just this array of antennas in Alaska that’s built by the US government to study the ionosphere. But for some reason, it cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
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And when you look at it, you’re like, where’d the money go? It’s like a building’s a box, and it’s a bunch of antennas. Ai I’m getting at is it this is a this is a an array that can ionize parts of the atmosphere. So I did an episode on project Bluebeam, which is a conspiracy about how the United Nations, the or the shadow government will create these holograms in the sky, and that will force one more government.
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We can get into it if you want to. Yeah. But I kinda debunk it saying, holograms need a substrate. You know, you need Clouds. Glass is really what you need.
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But then the the technology has gotten to the point where you can ionize atmosphere and create things in
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the
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atmosphere. So something like HAARP conceivably could create something up there. Something visual. Something visual. And I’ve heard people say that, you know, the UAPs, UFOs may not be real. They could just be holograms for some reason.
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I heard that too. Mhmm. Yeah. Or a combination of many different things.
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Yes.
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I think there’s probably a lot of different factors that people are seeing. You know, we I was watching a video the other day. I’m not sure if it’s real, but I put it on my Instagram anyway, on my my story because it was just fun, of ball lightning, which is real. But this ball lightning was moving around a parking lot, and it was extraordinary. This one. This is the Oh, yes.
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The plasma lasers that the Navy apparently has the ability to make Yes. Some stuff like this. Three d images in the air and Yeah. It can also make them make sounds somehow too, which is an interesting
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Well, because you’re just vibrating air molecules. So in project Blue Beam, the the energy comes from from a satellite array. So can satellites do that yet? If it can, they won’t tell us.
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But that could be a way where you could throw off the enemy or freak people out and pretend that there’s some sort of an alien invasion. It’s really just a hologram.
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Really just a hologram. And that’s, you know, that’s Blue Beam is supposed to get rid of religion because what will happen according to the legend is the hollow realms will manifest as whatever deity is dominant in the area, whether it’s Jesus or Buddha, who whomever. And atheists will see different things, and people will just freak out. Net nationalism will go away.
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Atheists will see different things. Like, why?
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Because according to the legend, the the array or with the technology wouldn’t will manipulate your mind. Again, Harp has been accused of this because you can manipulate someone’s mind with electromagnetic frequencies,
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at
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the right frequencies. So they could just tell you to see something.
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Sai, like, that specific? That specific. Allegedly.
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Now I I debunk a lot of it because because, the story originally came ram, a Canadian journalist named Serge Monast, fascinating figure. He comes out with this theory that’s that’s bonkers, and then the Canadian government takes his kids away because they’re homeschooled. He he gets harassed by authorities.
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He gets hauled off to jail for spreading, disinformation, dies of a heart attack the next day. So then, of course, that’s just ai that lights the fuse. So now it’s like, what what did he find? So and he talked very publicly about all of this. So that’s that’s supposedly how it happens is they manipulate our ai. They show us what we wanna sai, and then it’s not like we won’t resist authority.
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We’ll beg for it. We’ll just beg to take take our freedom, take our rights, keep us safe.
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Woah. Because something huge is happening, and we need to consolidate.
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I feel like that’s what would happen.
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Well, I’m sure you’ve seen the Hal put off thing. Did you see when Hal put off Hal put off George Bush, during his presidency, they floated the idea of disclosure. Did you ever see this?
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I didn’t see it, but I know how it’s worked very well.
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So what how what Hal said was, he and several other scientists were brought aboard, and they were given a task of writing pros and cons to disclosure. What are the things that are gonna be disrupted and what are the things that’s gonna benefit the ai and attach a numerical value to each thing.
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And all the scientists at the end of the day showed that the numerical value for con was far higher. Like, it it was gonna cause much more disruption than it would be beneficial, and so they decided not to disclose. But what they were telling Hal was this was what what you were planning for was retrieved crafts not of this world and biological entities that the United States government is in possession of.
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Should we disclose this?
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Right. I think I I’ve definitely heard that. I don’t know if is that connected to the Brookings report if I’m getting that correct?
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Which one’s that?
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I forget when it would even come out. Here’s all the CYAs. I’m an expert on nothing. I don’t know anything. I tell stories. Me too. Okay? How can you talk about Planet Serpo if you’ve never been? Look. I’ve just Ai just like this. I just all due respect.
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That that’s gonna go on
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forever. Forever.
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You’ve never been. He’s never been. I hope he’s okay. Douglas Murray’s a lot of fun. Oh, he’s great.
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Yeah. So I’m not an expert in anything. So I don’t know when Brookings was, but it was the same thing. It was a recommendation from the government that look.
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It was ai 1960. ’19 ’60.
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Same thing? Well, I
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don’t know about the exact same thing, but,
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same kind of thing?
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Studies of the implications of peaceful space activities for human affairs, commissioned by NASA and created by the Brookings Institute collaboration long range study.
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Same result. Don’t do it.
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Yeah. I think they’re probably right, but, also, I wanna know.
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Well, that’s that’s put puts us in a pickle, I think, is let’s say it’s real. Ai I sana know too.
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Mhmm. But I don’t want the Chinese to know, and I
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don’t I definitely don’t want Iran to know. So I understand.
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Do you not want them to know? Maybe we could all get along if we realize that there’s actual aliens that are visiting us. I mean, wasn’t that the Ronald Reagan speech in front of the UN? You’ve seen that.
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Right? Sure.
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Yeah. The famous speech.
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But wasn’t the SDI part of that speech is we’ll all get along, but we’re gonna have laser weapons in space just in case we don’t? Wasn’t that that same it might not have been, but it was about that same time. And that was all smoke and mirrors.
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Right. The Star Wars thing was fake. Right?
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We couldn’t get it to work.
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Yeah. It was all fake.
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So maybe we’ll all get along. Boy, that sounds nice. But, you know, Iran produces brilliant people, so intelligent, great engineers, doctors, all of that, but the government is bananas.
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Yeah.
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Sai, I mean, you don’t wanna have brilliant scientists working like that. I mean Right. We had brilliant scientists working for dictators in the past, and it was not awesome.
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Right. Sai Nazis.
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That’s who I mean.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That’s what I mean.
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So Yeah. It’s really sketchy if they get the technology.
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Right.
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Well, this is what Hal Pudov said. He said that the government of the United States has at least 10 of these things. And I said, well, other governments have them? He said, yes. And I said, do they have similar numbers? He’s like, we believe so. So they don’t know.
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So, essentially, what he was kind of alluding to is that there’s basically, like, a kind of Manhattan project to try to back engineer these things. And whoever figures it out first is going to have a massive advantage.
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Right.
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And it would be nice if it was us.
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It would be nice. Halputtoff has been connected to a lot of disinformation campaigns. I love the guy and his work, but he has been connected to information campaigns with known disinformation.
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Think about what what subjects?
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About disclosure. Like, you heard the name Richard Doty?
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Yes.
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Okay. Sai, I mean, he Want some coffee? Yeah. Let’s have some coffee. I’m off booze right now.
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For forever?
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No. Not for cheers. I just needed a break. It was becoming a little bit Me too. Like a habit. You too?
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Yeah. I’ve been off for two and a half months. Maybe even a little more now. Yeah. I I just for I just decided one day, I’m done. And then I feel great.
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Feel better?
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Oh ai god. Think clearer. Wake up feeling better. I have a nightclub, so I’m I’m at my nightclub, my comedy club all the ai. And, you know, everybody’s buying shots and you don’t sana a beer, you want this, that. After a ai, you’re like, god, I feel like shit.
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Yeah. You do.
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You know, but I’m at it’s like the illusion is that you won’t have fun. I’m having the same amount of fun. It’s so much fun.
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Of course. And
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because I
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Ai guess I meh I’m funnier because I know what I’m talking about. Yes. And I’m not embarrassed the next day.
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You just it just doesn’t kill your inhibitions, but that’s it’s overrated. It is. It’s fun. I’ve had a good time boozing, but, yeah, enough.
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I’m allowed to go back at the first of the month. Okay. I just need it you need to quit ai once in a while, if anything, just to should prove that you can.
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Yes. Yeah. It’s a good thing just to prove Mhmm. That’s not doesn’t have its hooks in
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you. Right. Yeah. I can quit whenever I want. It’s I know. But can you?
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I’ve taken a few days off of social media, and I always feel better, but I always go right back in.
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Ai don’t I don’t know why I hardly ever look at it.
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It’s just just a massive distraction. Like, I don’t read anything about myself, but I’m always but more sai, I’m always looking at but I find a lot of interesting things too, especially on Instagram. But more so now than ever, my screen time on my phone is dedicated to YouTube.
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It’s ai, when I come home, especially at the end of the night, come back from the club, I’m tyler. I want nonsense. I want Bigfoot. Same.
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I don’t wanna think too hard.
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I want, you know, I want, you know, Bob Lazar. I want Bigfoot. Yep. I want, you know, ancient civilizations. It’s just me and the dog ai TV.
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Yep.
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You know, everyone’s asleep. That’s that’s my favorite.
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Because no booze for me doesn’t mean no gummies.
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So Oh, okay.
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So a half a gummy and a Bigfoot episode. I’m I’m having a great time.
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That’s the one that I wish was real, but I’m 99% sure it’s horseshit. Same. But I also wonder I wonder, like, I wonder if under certain conditions, it’s real. Like, this is my thought. This is is gonna sound squirrelly. I think under heightened states of anxiety and fear, when you’re alone in the woods, maybe it’s possible that the barrier between dimensions is slippery, and you can see things that you would ordinarily never see.
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Ai, it might not even be as simple as this is a biological creature that lives here on Earth with us, but no one’s ever found a body. It might be weirder than that. It might be these are some sort of hominid from somewhere else that can can appear. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace.
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Native American legends say exactly that, that it’s this creature that lives between worlds. And the Really? Sai with giants as well. They have the legends of the red haired giants that were chased west.
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I’m glad we’re getting to that. We’re getting just Yeah. Because the ai thing is weird when you go into the story, and I watched your episode on giants. I loved it.
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Maybe it was
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the the law that
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Smithsonian. Oh, that was yeah. That was GE Kinkade and the Smithsonian cover up
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Yeah.
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In Grand Canyon. That’s a good story.
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Well, the whole Grand Canyon thing is bananas. Like, there’s areas of the Grand Canyon you cannot explore.
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You cannot go. You cannot fly over. Right. And you can’t fly under the rim. Yet when you go to those bad places, suddenly, a white plane flies over under the rim, black helicopter show up. I showed them meh episode. I shah the black helicopter showing up. Like, it’s they do show.
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Yeah. Like, they are protecting something.
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Something.
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It’s not as simple as this is a dangerous area because you can go to any dangerous area.
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You go to just to the normal tourist arya. It’s ai, be careful. People fall two people, what, a year fall.
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Yeah. Someone fell recently.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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An influencer. Of course. Take me a selfie. But the, Grand Canyon, there there’s been these crazy stories of people finding these, like, Egyptian these caverns with, like, Egyptian artwork and hieroglyphics and these stories of artifacts that have been removed from there.
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So the story is, it shows up, I believe, in, like, the Phoenix Gazette’s nineteen o three or sai. And the explorer is GE Kinkade, and he’s going down. He’s, he’s looking for gold deposits or whatever. This is, just before rose Teddy Roosevelt made the Grand Canyon a preserve. He was a naturalist.
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So he finds these steps that are clearly man made. He follows the steps up and there’s a cave, and he goes in there. And he describes hieroglyphics that look Egyptian but are not quite. He finds a statue that he ai as like Buddha ai, not Egyptian, not human, but sort of like Buddha.
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And all these weapons, shields, gold, all sorts of stuff, he keeps going. He finds a deserted city in the caves, and all these tunnels and caverns go everywhere. And he’s trying to map everything. He comes out, and he goes back to town, and he gathers together a group that we’re gonna go we’re gonna go find the stuff again.
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And people are are excited about it. And a couple of weeks go ai, and everyone’s gathered to go on the expedition. He never shows. The expedition goes nowhere, and that’s really the last we’ve heard of it.
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Well and is there any photographs or anything?
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No. No. There never is of this stuff.
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Right. Just descriptions?
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Just this and a good just a great story.
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Well, the great part of the story is the fact that you actually can’t go there. And that just the the idea that there’s an area where the military is protecting people from being foolish, that doesn’t make any sense.
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Nobody asks why. Right. Like, nobody asks why. It really bothers me about about that story in all of these, whether it’s disclosure or whatever. I don’t hear anyone asking why. Well, they won’t let us. Well, who’s they? Someone’s in charge of stuff that’s not the president Right. Or congress.
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So who who is it?
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So, you know, I Is it possible there’s, like, some sort of a government installation down there somewhere?
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You know, it’s it’s all gonna be woo woo conspiracy stuff or or it’s real, or GE Kinkade found something and someone got to him.
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But if GE Kinkade found something, why would they wanna hide some ancient civilization discovery, particularly in the early nineteen hundreds? Like, why? For what reason?
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I I don’t know why Graham Hancock is marginalized now.
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Right. But that wouldn’t you think that there’s, like, less of a grip on that stuff in the nineteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds?
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I would think so. Yeah. So my guess would be treasure and money. That would be my guess is it shows up in the paper. Mill, the government goes down there, like, there’s a lot of stuff down here. Let’s grab it. Send it to the Smithsonian who keeps 99% of the stuff under wraps.
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They have, you know, a billion items that nobody can sai. And then that’s the end of it.
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Shah the fuck? Which Ai I would love to know the official reason. See if you can Google. Is there an official reason why you’re not allowed to go to certain areas of the Grand Canyon?
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They use a VPN there, brother.
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The story I was looking at the article about the original article, and it says that the two guys meh might not have even existed.
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Right.
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There’s no evidence of them. Meh Kinkade? And another guy named Sai Jordan.
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Oh, so it might be just a story that someone printed some ai? I’ve
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when I was
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looking into one of these things before, I found something explaining that back in the, like, early nineteen hundreds when newspapers were really popular thing to read. I don’t know if it was ai a a game or if there was actual prizes people would play or, like, amongst themselves to try to get fake stories printed.
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You if
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you could get
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the craziest story printed, you win, like, $500 or
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I might be wrong, but I think Jordan was connected to the Smithsonian, at least according to, to the story.
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I pulled this from the Smithsonian debunk, which I mean, obviously, they would if this is the way we’re gonna go with it, but them debunking this, and they gave two links, one to the original nineteen o nine article and one to a 02/2008 update, and that’s where I was pulling that from.
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I don’t trust the Smithsonian. They’re exempt from all kinds of stuff. Yeah. Well, like, you’re there’s a law passed not too long ago that if you have Native American artifacts that are important to that culture, especially burial artifacts, they must be returned. Unless you’re the Smithsonian
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They’re allowed to hold on there. Then you can make you can make
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a case that you don’t have to give it back.
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How do they have so much power?
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Ai it’s a government agency.
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Smithsonian is a government oh, I didn’t even know. I thought it was a private agency. So there’s no official story as to why this area of the Grand Canyon is off limits.
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For your safety.
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The Forbidden Zone, they call it.
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Yeah. It’s all I can find. That’s
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fucking weird. That’s fucking weird that this story comes from the very area that’s forbidden. That’s fucking weird.
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I think What are the odds? I don’t believe in coincidences. So it there are a lot of these stories come from places you just can’t go.
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Sai anybody tried to hike in? All the time.
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Or ram in.
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Yeah. Do they get busted?
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And busted. Yeah. And arrested.
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Really? You ai
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find you could find online. I wish I knew the names, of a team that that went up there. That’s who found the black helicopters, and, I use them in in the video. And, and I credit them so you can find their videos that were up they’re up there for an hour, hour and a half, trying to trying to find stuff.
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And what they found up in that forbidden zone is anchored into the ground, a giant hook
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Right.
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Or ai a loop. Yeah. Like, what would you use that for? And that would be to repel down. That’s the only reason that would be there. There’s no explanation for what is this. They also found artifacts from that era, from the early nineteen hundreds, artifacts that people were there.
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So it’s possible that they rappelled that. Like, they might have been standing right above that entrance, and there are reverse angles of that rock face that look a little weird. It could be pareidolia, but it What’s pareidolia? Pareidolia is the is the mind’s ability to see objects in random noise.
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You know, it’s something we evolved to, you know, to see predators in the forest. That’s why if you see a cloud that looks like an Abraham Lincoln
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Right. Right.
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It’s not Abraham Lincoln. You know? It’s it’s pareidolia. But, but debunkers will always fall on pareidolia. Sai so, like, the real believers, they hate that word.
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God. That would be imagine. Everything would have to be rewritten. If they found some evidence of a a lost civilization with no connection to any known civilization that was advanced, that was living in the Grand Canyon.
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Did you ever think about going?
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To the Grand Canyon?
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To go and just be an outlaw and go see.
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How would you get in, though? I mean, if they have black helicopters and they’re scanning the sky or scanning the ground with some sort of a drone or a plane
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We go in. We ai Are you planning something? No. No. No. Hold on. What should we do? I don’t have I’m in. I don’t have a contract. Alright? So this is the it’s already dangerous me sitting here, but I got
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your back. If I go?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because even if they drag you out, questions have to have to be posed.
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Right. Why couldn’t I go there?
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What what did he do wrong? Well, he violated this area. Okay. Well, how come?
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Yeah. What what when you think about how dangerous the Grand Canyon is overall, there’s not a safe area. It’s literally a canyon. You could fall at any of a million spots along the way to your death.
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Have you been there?
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Yes.
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On book it’s it’s Incredible. Incredible. You couldn’t paint a better picture. But as you get closer to that edge, you can feel your your amygdala going,
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oh,
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oh, back up. Yeah. Like, it’s seriously dangerous.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ai. The problem is I wanna believe. With all these things. Ai, yeah, sai. Most people that enjoy your shah. Sana believe. That’s why it’s so fun.
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And I don’t believe most of the stuff I talk about. But when I approach a story, I try to find as much evidence as I can to support it, and I also want to find the other side
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so
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that what we’re left with is some truth. And not all stories can be fully debunked. And I I’ve had my mind flipped a couple of times, you know, crop circles, hollow moons, some really crazy shit have flip have flipped me around.
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Crop circles is a weird one. So weird. It’s a a weird one because when I first saw them, I’m like, what is that? And then I saw that these guys were doing them with boards and string. I was like, oh, it’s just people being silly. And then I watched a whole documentary about how the energy that bent these things over caused these nodes to explode as if they’ve been cooked in a microwave. Correct.
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Ai? And then you find out that the actual stalks are woven together.
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Correct.
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It’s not that they’re pressed down, they’re woven together. And that these are complex geometric designs that would have taken people weeks to map out. And and and there’s no footprints leading up to it. There’s no roads, no machinery, no evidence of any use of any kind of machinery, and these things appear like that.
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Like, people have flown over an area and then flown back an hour or two later, and there’s immense football field ai perfect geometry that no one can explain how it was created.
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Correct. So so the nodes in the stalks, the node is like a knuckle on your fingers. So these those are there for phototropism to bend toward light. So what you’re talking about is these things are bent over. They’re bent over at right angles. It can only be done with high energy.
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But also around these crop circles, they’re finding microscopic metallic spheroids in around the circles, and that’s ai a conspiracy theory. They’re finding them. And there there are these magnetic fields around the circles. And you can see videos online of people going into these crop circles and their their hands start to get red. Things are happening to them.
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So I went into crop circles thinking it was all guys with boards. Mhmm. But then when you watch people with boards make a crop circle, it’s a mess. They can’t do this, and you cannot bend the nodes of reeds and weave them together in a perfect you can’t do it. So that was as I’m doing the research, I’m like, alright. 99% of them are fake, but there’s this 1% that I cannot explain.
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The famous video where you see the orbs circling around the field in England and then the crop circle slowly starts to emerge, Has that been debunked?
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Semi. It’s controversial because the the guy released that video, I don’t know his name offhand, allegedly went to a visual effects house
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Oh, boy.
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And and released it. But they somehow put that thing together in a matter of hours, which is suspicious. So in in my episode on it, I said, alright. Here’s what the the skeptics say. But, you know, in the nineteen nineties to do that that kind of VFX work because it looks real.
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Mhmm. I
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don’t know. To me, I’m I’m on the fence about it. You know?
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It’s very convenient that they got the footage. It is. You know?
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It is. Operation Blackbird was a famous operation in 1990 to try and capture the footage live, by a great researcher named Colin Andrews. And Oh,
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he’s the guy that does the books on crop circles. Right? Yes. Yeah. He’s all in.
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He’s all in, and he got a lot of support for for Blackbird. And not only did nothing happen, he was totally embarrassed by it. And it was all, like, streaming ai, and a lot of people were involved. He’s embarrassed. We find out later that while they’re, like, waiting for the circles to happen, just a few miles away, there’s a millet a top secret military operation doing whatever they’re doing.
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He doesn’t know why. And then he gets a knock on the door from someone, you know, meh in black, whoever it is, that sai first offers his him money to stop his work, then threatens him with whatever, threatens his family, and he doesn’t know who this guy is. They go back and look at the tapes, and he sees the guy in the background of, like, one of the TV crews.
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So the theory is some type of intelligence was embedded into Blackbird, made to discredit him, and that was kind of that was kind of the end of Colin Andrews because he was he was a legit researcher at that point. Now he’s now he’s fringe, and now he’s pseudoscience. But I get into that in the episode. That was something I discovered. I never knew that there was intelligence involved.
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I didn’t know that there was a military op, which is confirmed. It’s all it’s it’s wild.
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So do you think they discredited him on purpose? Yes. Interesting. To make the crop circle thing looks foolish. But, like, what is the crop circle thing like, what is the out of the believers, what is the best theory?
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The believers is that it’s a it’s a way to message craft or it’s a landing site or it’s some type of communication.
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But why why would why are they doing it in wheat fields?
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I I don’t know. It doesn’t make sense to me. If you have the technology, just, you know
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Yeah. Pick up the phone.
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You know, you there’s better ways than just mowing wheat down, but Ai, you know, I don’t understand.
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Do you know the one about the the Mandelbrot set?
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I’ve I’ve seen it.
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Yeah. I think that one is really weird because I think it coincides with the fractal creation of the Mandelbrot set by these people that are into this kind of geometry and fractals. They’re ai, someone made the Mandelbrot set, which is essentially an infinite fractal of, like, spectacular
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And this is before Lorenz and the Lorenz attractor, I think, is before that, isn’t it?
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I don’t know.
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Before it was mainstream.
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Yeah. Before it was mainstream. Yes. And then when this thing appears and ai, like, what is this design? And then they connect it to this Mandelbrot set, which is someone would have to have some very esoteric information to be it.
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And it’s Mandelbrot set using Fibonacci numbers
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Yes.
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And and the fee, the golden ratio.
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That’s accurate.
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It’s accurate down to inches.
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Yeah.
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You can’t do that.
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Well, maybe you can, but, like, how and how long would it take and how much planning and how many people and what would you use? Like, what what is the technology they would use to bend those things over that way and weave them? It’s very weird stuff. It’s weird. Because it’s these, you know, the way these fractals work, it’s this ratio in the in the geometry is ai their specific sizes.
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This one is half the size of that one, which is half the size of that one, which is that. And it goes on and on forever. And when you see it all see if you can find the Mandelbrot set. It’s the
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maybe the most spectacular crop circle.
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It’s weird. It’s really weird because it’s fucking enormous. Mhmm. You know? And it seems so stupid.
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It’s just which one of it?
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Wow. There’s a whole bunch of them. The Mandelbrot set is the one with the look like a heart above that one right there. Yeah. That’s it. That’s the Mandelbrot set.
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Yep. And there’s some other fractals there as well.
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I was looking at an arya. It says these two guys took on the challenge and did it for a TV show on the BBC.
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They did. If you watch them do it, it’s it’s clumsy AF.
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Yeah. It it doesn’t look as good. Like like I’m trying
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to find it. Because that’s
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I know they always say that these guys did it, but, like,
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you you can’t really see it there, but those flattened reeds, they’re they’re woven together.
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Well, the the weird some of the weirder ones, go back to other crop circles. You had some other images before that. There’s some other ones. That those ones, those spirals. Right. Like that one right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is fucking wild.
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That’s wild.
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Like, this is multiple football fields long and wide. So how? Make that one a little bigger, please.
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And one of ai, I don’t know if it’s that one in particular, showed up right next to Stonehenge. Like Yeah. Like a tennis ball throw away.
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Like, that is crazy. To not first of all, if you’re on the ground, alright, just the measurements alone to make each one the equal distance between circles, you know, in the whatever six different blades that you have that stem from the center. They’re all the same distance. They’re all the same size.
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The small circles are the ones that are most interesting because how hard is that to do?
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Right. Right. And they’re uniform. And it’s ai, what is that? Like, what the fuck is that? And who’s if that is a hoax, it’s so bizarre that it’s only these two goofballs that were making really shitty ones with boards and strings. And meh, there’s hundreds, if not thousands, of these, like, really complex ones.
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Yeah. Those those are the guys that arya. You can see them doing it live.
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And with those guys, there’s no way they had enough time to do all these things.
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And it looked terrible. Yankee. Look. He’s just trampling it.
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Yeah. I mean, look. You can certainly make crop circles with a string and a board. You certainly can make crop circles, but you’re and, you know, it it always gets connected, like, believing in aliens and everything else, but it’s not no one’s even saying aliens. Like, what it it could be some sort of energy from something that we possess, some something that humans possess that they somehow or another aim at these areas.
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Like, what is that one above it? Go go that one right there above, like, right right there. What the fuck is that thing? Look at that.
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They are in the same count. 80% of them come from the same county in England.
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Which is all also weird.
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Now people correct me in in the comments, but I believe that middle piece of geometry is a hypercube. Isn’t it? Isn’t that a a four dimensional cube?
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I don’t know.
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A tesseract?
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It does look like it, but
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Like, what the fuck? How long would that take? That seems like that would take a long time to do.
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Stonehenge is under constant surveillance, and and circles show up overnight. Very weird stuff. There’s an interesting conspiracy Shah
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the fuck, dude?
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To crop circles that we can we can get into later.
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Wiltshire has the most crop circles in England.
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Yes.
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And it’s mostly in England too, which is also weird.
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And then mostly in Wiltshire. Ai,
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like, is there some sort of a theory by the kooks?
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Lay lines.
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Lay lines.
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That they’re happening on these these segments of energy that intersect.
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What is that black and white one, Jamie? Click on that one. Just a No. No. No. No. No. The one that one. What the fuck is that? Wow.
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Wow. On on a mountain.
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Crap. It could be
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in sand, I think. This is, like, sand dunes.
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Is that what that is? Not circle 60 That’s crazy. I don’t I’ve never seen that one. It’s wild. I mean, just the amount of time that it would take to do these things. So ley lines. So this is the theory?
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That’s the theory. Have you heard about ley lines?
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Kind of.
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It’s this this, alleged grid of energy that circles the Earth and, almost like how magnetic fields work. And these these energy lines have intersection points. And on these intersection points are things like Stonehenge, Giza Woah.
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Since snow on a mountain in France. Wow.
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Where are the tracks in? What?
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You know, it Okay. What the fuck is that? So this is No footprints. No tracks.
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Footprints right here.
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Yeah. But that could be
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That could be the people that discovered it.
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Right.
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Oh, there’s there’s a guy that did it, though.
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Oh, the guy. The guy that ai this. This is actually These
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aren’t crop circles. This is an artist doing it. That’s kinda what I was trying to say.
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Fucking incredible. An artist did that?
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Yeah. It has the guy’s name on that first picture we had. Amazing. Simon Beck.
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So the artist angle is a conspiracy angle. There’s a man named John Lundberg who is, was part of a group called circlemaker makers.org, which is, an art project and also a sociology experiment. He would make fake crop circles to see how people would react. Years later, Lundberg and some associates create a documentary called Mirage Men, which is an excellent documentary.
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It’s mostly about Richard Doty and his disinformation campaign on behalf of the air force to discredit the UFO community drove Paul Benowitz nuts. Bill Bill Moore, who’s the who’s the guy who essentially brought Roswell out to the public. Bill Moore was taking payments and being fed information from Doty to muddy the waters in the UFO community.
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He finally came clean in ’89, was booed off the stage at MUFON, and everything just unraveled. So it’s all this info.
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Boot him off the stage?
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Because he fine he finally said, look. I’ve I’ve been working with the government. A lot of the stuff I’ve been saying, they told me to sai. Majestic 12, all this stuff was coming from Doty, and they didn’t wanna hear it. They didn’t wanna and his career was basically over that day.
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Wow.
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Bill Moore. He there was no Roswell story before Moore before his book, and, you know, that was Doty. So the the documentary about Doty was directed and put together by Lundberg and his associates. Lundberg was one of the original circle makers that would make these fake crop circles to see how people would react. I just thought it’s an interesting connection.
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But it’s interesting because clearly some people are making these.
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Mhmm.
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But, like, what was the origins of it? Because I’m I’m sure you’ve seen that image from the newspaper of the devil with a a scythe. You know what I mean? And they’re talking about crop circles, like, back in, like, the ’17 and eighteen hundreds.
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’16 ’70 ‘8.
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Yeah. Sixteen hundreds. Wow. First crop circle ever reported was in 1678. According to the story farmer, a crop mower were arguing about the cost of harvesting the farmer’s oat field. The farmer was furious at the mower’s price and stormed off swearing that the devil himself should harvest the crop.
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That night, a dazzling light lit up the oat field, and in the morning, the farmer discovered perfectly round circles in his crops. He was so frightened by the circles, which he thought could only have been so neatly mowed by the devil or some infernal spirit that he abandoned any attempt to harvest the field.
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That’s sai little sketchy. You’re scared of circles. Come on, pussy.
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Really though? If there were crop circles in my backyard, I would be a little nervous.
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I would be curious. It’s not terrifying. Right. They’re not something that would scare me away from harvesting my crop.
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No. I’m more afraid of the government than I am of, you know, that’s done. That Crop
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circles don’t seem to be killing anybody. No. But it’s ai, what so ley lines. So these things are to differentiate areas so they could see them from the sky. Is that the idea?
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The ley lines are the are the energy lines. Mhmm. Whatever a mystical energy. It’s not a scientific energy. And where the lines intersect is where you see sites like Machu Picchu, Giza, Stonehenge, all these ancient sites. There’s the ley lines. Oh. But ley lines is, you know, it’s it’s semi debunkable because if you if you connect enough lines, you’re gonna find patterns. You’re gonna find geometry.
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Right. Right. Right. You go looking for it. Right. Yeah. Very just very weird stuff. The I like I said, I used to think it was total nonsense until I saw some documentaries on it where they were talking about the nodes. They were talking about some of these things arya just so complex, and they appear so quickly.
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The nodes and the braiding to me was ai, okay. Now I gotta change my approach to this.
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What do you think it is?
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Yeah. I don’t know. I I think, yeah, I think it’s beyond us. It it’s just we’re just monkeys trying to trying to guess math.
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Mhmm.
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You know? I don’t know. We every time we make a guess on this show, someone’s laughing. You know? Of course. Yeah. Someone’s ai and they, you know, they think it’s a landing site.
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Well, it’s one of those subjects that if you even entertain it, you’re almost immediately a fool, which, I’m super comfortable with being a fool. I entertain a lot of foolish ai. But that one is particularly foolish because people always point to those guys with boards. And I’m like, not so fast. Yeah.
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Those guys with boards definitely made some circles. But this is there’s some of them that are really spectacular. They are. And it it just doesn’t and when you factor in the nodes, and you factored in the weaving, and then these incredible geometric shapes, like, how are you even mapping that?
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Like, how are you doing that? How many people are involved? How long does it take?
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Sai you know, I it would take people so long. It would never be that accurate. Yeah. With, you know, with ropes and boards, Sai you know, I just don’t see it.
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Right. But, like, it leaves you with this weird mystery. Just ai what what is this?
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I wish I knew.
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It’s just one of those things that, ai, it’s almost like the universe is laughing at us. Every now and then, it just shows you something that’s, like, so goofy that you have to go, well, what is real?
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The you know, a great it was a hoax, but a great crop circle was the Arecibo response. Do you know that one?
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Yes.
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That was a great one. Yeah. That was we sent the Arecibo message out.
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Mhmm.
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It had had all the symbols on it that
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And it sent it back with, like, a half a u alien face.
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Right. And it showed where on the in their solar system they live, what their DNA was like. You know,
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it was a great one. Who did that one?
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I I don’t know who did I don’t know if it was Circle Makers. I don’t know who
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it was, but it was a hoax.
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But I was but it was ai a really well thought out one.
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Well, that one kinda looks like a hoax. Like, it’s so on the nose. You have a alien face in the crop circle.
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Wasn’t that different than the than the Arecibo response? Was that Is it? Ai forget.
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I think they were related. I’m not I’m not sure, though.
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The responses, I thought, was so cool.
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I thought the Arecibo response was aligned with that, UFO thing, the the alien face. See if you can find the crop circle that sai it, Jamie.
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You could be right. As soon as you see the alien face, you’re out.
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I think the Arecibo response is next to the there it is above that, Jamie. You just had it. If you scroll, go to the top ai there. Bam. Okay. So that’s different.
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That’s different. But there’s there’s
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An Arecibo is the answer.
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Album cover for someone on Apple.
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Apple. Right. But the crop circles are real crop circle. That that is somebody actually made that ai.
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And that’s a message in that circle.
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That spiral
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is a message.
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Look at that one to the right.
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There is the Arecibo response down there with the humanoid face.
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Yes. That’s it. That’s it. Very weird. So that’s a hoax.
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That’s a hoax, but, boy, it’s a good one.
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It’s a fucking great one. Go back a couple of posts. Yeah. Right there. That one on the right hand sai. That’s crazy.
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It’s the small circles that get me.
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Well, it’s fucking if it is a hoax, it’s amazing. That is just so weird. But, again, it’s ai one of those, like, it doesn’t there’s it’s not satisfying.
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No. It’s not.
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You know, there’s not, like, every it just at the end of it, you’re just ai, I don’t know.
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That’s why the worst question is what do you think it is? It’s like, right.
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I was hoping you had something stupid. Well,
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I don’t know. I don’t know, man.
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Yeah. I don’t know either. But I do know that I want to believe Mhmm. Which is always the problem with me with all these things. You know, I wanna believe the bases in Antarctica. I wanna believe that there’s pyramids up there, all that stuff.
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Yeah. And when you find out something’s debunked, how do you feel? Oh, you know. Are you okay?
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Yeah. I meh, disappointed, but
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But there’s a party that goes,
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meh, it’s probably right. Well, I think most of them are bullshit. I think ai most UFO sightings are bullshit. Most UFO sightings are probably people seeing experimental military aircraft and things along those lines. Satellites, that’s a big one. Ai, those the Starlink ones ai across the night sai.
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People are
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like, oh ai god. It’s an alien.
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It’s not an alien. You could see them with with your naked eye. Yeah.
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But if you didn’t know what it was, it looks like a fleet. Of ships flying across the sky.
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And the way that they alternate ai, it looks like there’s an intelligence to it.
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Ai never seen anything myself. Have you?
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No. Gino has. What did
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Gino sai?
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Gino saw ai, and and I think, I think maybe Jeremiah said he saw the same thing. Gino saw a giant orb of light over the Pacific Ocean, and he watched it for a long time. And I said, where where’s the photo of it? And he said, I was so in awe. I didn’t even think to to meh out my phone. It’s like, meh. But that’s a common thing you hear. Right.
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Is you’re just so in awe you don’t think I gotta Right. Selfie this.
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Right. You probably if you were actually saw something, there’s a high probability that you’d be so freaked out. You’d be just in the moment. Like,
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what? Yep. And, you know, Gino’s legit. He’s not he’s not bullshit.
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Artist. Yeah. Now I’ve talked to quite a Dave Foley had a a ai. He saw something. The
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Gino talked to Dave about they saw the same thing.
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Yeah. Well, there’s always the question of, like, what’s going on off the coast. And I’m sure you’re aware of this one. The we actually talked about it the other day, but we never found it. There’s a structure that’s off of Malibu in the deep water that was available on Google Maps. Was a structure. Was. Mhmm. And now it’s blurred out. Yep.
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But it looked like there’s openings in it. There’s a top that’s flat. It looks like
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Looks like a base.
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Looks like a base. Looks like a base. Yeah. You know, if And now it doesn’t.
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Now it just looks like blurry water.
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Yeah. Like, why does it look different now? Like, what’s going on?
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With a gun to my head, all the weird stuff is in the ocean. It’s not from another planet.
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Really?
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No. I don’t know. Who who knows? But it’s it makes a lot more sense that the stuff we’re seeing, it’s the best place to ai.
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It’s just deep water. So not from another planet originally? Like, maybe originally and that’s where they they make their base?
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I, it’s hard for me to square how to travel great distances. It’s hard for me to square that. You know, I know that we’ve got the AlbaCare ai and warp drive and all these theoretical things about about compressing space time and all of that. I you know, I get it, but it’s hard for me to think that that’s solvable.
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But what is interesting is maybe another species evolved alongside of us a long time ago and has been here a long time and said, you know what? Let’s go here’s this is where we go to avoid cataclysms and geological instability. Let’s go underwater.
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That’s a weird one, though, because, like, what kind of technology are you ai? How do you how did you achieve that level of technological superiority and not completely control man? Because if I was an intelligent species that was capable of developing bases under the water, I’d be super concerned at all the different things that human beings are doing to ruin things.
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Like, if we had chimps that all of a sudden had flamethrowers and they were lighting the jungle on fire, we’d probably take their flamethrowers.
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So, like, we would turn off the nuclear reactor. Yeah. Right. So we talk about humans. If if if this theory is true that they evolved here, there were no humans. Humans is are 300,000 years old. That’s not it would take whatever species a lot longer than that to evolve to this technological level. We’ve seen the craft just zip into water with no displacement.
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Right. You
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know, where are they going? And there there are unnamed whistleblowers, you know, anonymous sources that say there’s a there’s a base near the Bermuda Triangle. The Navy knows about it. They know not to get close. It moves around a little bit. I’m sana do an episode on it soon because it’s just too good not to.
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Corroborated by another biologist who said he worked with the retrieval team and, yes, their stuff. And what this base does is it it from raw materials creates craft to go on specific missions. So there’s always the question, you know, why is there a saucer? Why does it look like a pyramid? Why is it this? It’s because they’re custom built for a mission.
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And there’s an AI and a species down there, and they sai, oh, we’re gonna go survey Mount Hays in Alaska. Super, super fascinating, place. So we only need a scanning gear, some propulsion, and we just build it. It fits in an orb, send it out, does its thing, comes back, and then it gets broken down to the its parts. And then another mission, build it.
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It’s gonna be a triangle. It’s gonna be this or Does its mission comes back? To me, that makes good sense. A good way to do that, a good way to conserve resources, not have to go out and get stuff. Ai like the theory.
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That’s a fun it’s a fun theory.
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It’s a fun theory. Yeah. It’s a fun theory also that if you were if you were creating bases here, like, say if they’re coming from somewhere else and they sana visit us, it would be far more logical to develop some sort of a base with resources and, you know, where you could you could observe things and they can exist there completely undetected and then be able to go to wherever they’re from back and forth.
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But when they’re here on Earth, it would be undetected. Right. And the earth the ocean is literally 70 something percent of the Earth’s surface.
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And we’ve mapped, I think, two or 3% of it.
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Yeah. It’d be a good place to hide in plain sight.
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That’s what I would do. And to make things from raw materials, meaning, like, molecular level stuff, you’re I mean, you’re totally off grid. You know? Yeah. We don’t need to strip mine. We got everything here.
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Right. Right. And if you have something that’s a transmedium vehicle, so it doesn’t displace the water. It works on some sort of a warp drive or some
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I think you have to get into interdimensionality then and all. It gets a little it gets a little wild.
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Mhmm.
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But if you’re not displacing air or water, that that means you’re phasing through matter
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Right.
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Which is theoretically doable because everything is mostly space.
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Well, they said they’ve mapped things going under the water 500 knots.
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Right. Without making a splash.
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Yeah. No ripples. No discernible waves.
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Jeep, Greg Louganis, ai in there.
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Nothing. 500 knots under the water. I mean, what the fuck could do that? Amount of energy, you’d have to have you go through that much resistance of deep water, 500 miles an hour, 500 knots.
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Right. Look at how when they do missile tests from subs, how those things are just ai, sai, trying to get out of the water. Yeah. And these things just go bloop. Yeah. And nothing.
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Well, that’s the weird ones. And may but that would make you also think, like, maybe it is a ram. Because if there are these transmedium things but the thing is they’re seeing them with radar.
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Right. Which means heat signature or mass
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Right.
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Or electromagnetic displacement.
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Or if it was if it is some sort of photons, ai, some sort of a projection, would that not have some kind of a heat signature?
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It would if it was ionized air. It you know, that would be plasma, so that was hot, if that’s what it is. But when they go into the water, we see them under the water for a second, and you don’t see any refraction.
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Right.
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So that kinda screws up the, like, the holographic projection theory a little bit because there’s no light refraction. Sai how did you do do that? Yeah. No. I’m asking you how do you do that.
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I don’t know. I don’t know either. I mean, that’s my answer. Yeah.
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I mean, you’ve had physicists on here ai I’ve seen go.
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, the really crazy ones are the ones that the fighter pilots have seen because, you know, particularly Commander Fravor and the other people that were on that mission with him. So two separate jets. You have four people that are ai to this thing and then that there was something actually under the surface of the water like an aircraft carrier, an enormous thing that this Tic Tac is hovering above and then that thing descends into the water.
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The Tic Tac turns towards them, jamming their signal, is hovering in space, and then shoots off at such an insane rate of speed that most of the things that we have on Earth would just disintegrate and fall apart just from the sheer pressure.
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Of course. And from the inertia Yeah. Can be done. Now if I were doing an episode on on TikTok or Go Faster Gimbal, I would be remiss if I didn’t include Mick West’s analysis of those. And I know you’ve talked to Mick on and off throughout the
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ai. Like a professional debunker.
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He is.
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He wants to debunk things that I don’t think can be debunked.
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He does. He approaches it as it’s definitely fake, and I’m gonna show
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you why. Everything is definitely fake. Almost to the point where I’m like, who you working for?
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Right. Right.
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Who you working for?
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Everyone thinks we’re CIA, by the way. I mean you? Oh, yeah. Reddit is convinced I’m CIA.
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58:38
Oh, me too?
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That’s why my channel blew up in two and a half years.
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58:42
Because the CIA?
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CIA is back.
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Oh, I’ve heard that before. I’ve heard that about many people. Mhmm. Like, the reason why they got successful. I’ve heard that about me too. Yeah. Like, go back to 02/2009 where I have 200 viewers. Like, the CIA sucked back then. They weren’t
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they weren’t helping me at all. Dude, I remember just watching you in little squares on Ustream just like the top of your head and Brian and Duncan. I mean, that’s what if Gino’s ai, you gotta watch Joe Rogan’s show on on Ustream. I’m like, what are you talking about? He’s a comic.
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He’s like, he’s got Graham Hancock on. And I went, oh, I gotta watch that. And that’s that’s when I started watching.
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I think Graham was our first serious guest. So it was Duncan and I and we’re in my house and Graham flew from England. We ate pizza in ai my kitchen. It was the first time meh got to meet him. I was so pumped because I’ve read his book in the nineties. I read Same. Yeah. Fingerprints of the Gods. Amazing book.
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From Arya Bell sai
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you told me about it.
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Yeah. I remember my wife was like, you should read, like, real real archaeology. I’m like, no. This is fucking interesting shit.
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Why should is your wife a scientist or something? No.
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No. No. She’s just a little more serious than me.
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Yeah. My wife She’s smarter than me. Same. Same.
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But it’s ai, I I still to this day will pick up those books and read them. And it’s like, I I do not think that modern archaeology has the full story, and I’ve seen the way they behave. I saw the way Flint Dibble behaved with Graham. They’re gatekeepers. They don’t want anyone to have any information that they don’t have.
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So even in the face of very compelling information, they dismiss openly, quickly without any consideration. They they just wanna dismiss it, and then they wanna pretend that any archaeologist that presents any kind of information that fucks up the narrative isn’t immediately attacked, and they are.
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Their careers are ruined. Whether you go back to Clovis first or in any of these different archaeologists that have proposed alternative theories of the human timeline, all of the conventional archaeologists, all the mainstream people attacked them.
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01:00:41
Randall Carlson, Robert Shah, John
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Andrew West. Mhmm.
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If I were advising Graham, I would have said don’t do that debate. Don’t do it. There’s no way to come off. You’re not gonna convince anybody, and you’re just gonna come off not looking great. And, and I’ve seen his response on his own site. He’s even said that was probably a mistake. He wasn’t prepared enough, but you’ll never be prepared enough for a professional debunker. You just won’t be. Ai have too much.
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So I told him, don’t don’t go in don’t go into the lion’s den.
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Well, the problem was he wasn’t being honest. Flint was not being honest about the information that we have, particularly about offshore shipwrecks. Mhmm. He was just not honest. Nope. You know? And the amount that they have discovered, not honest.
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And Graham didn’t know that at the time?
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And also the ai of, like, how old these are. When you get to five thousand, six thousand years, there’s no ship left. All you have is, like, the pottery and whatever is on the ground at the bottom. And if you’re talking about ten thousand years, fifteen thousand years, who’s to say that that’s not completely covered by sediment by then? And it probably would be.
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Well, you know, I watched a little of, of Ai on on here.
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That’s all you need. Just a little for that episode. You get it.
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I couldn’t believe he was he’s still doing it. I mean, I maybe he was around when they actually built the things.
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I think that was probably the best advertisement for alternative archaeology you’re ever gonna meh. When you see the guy that’s the gatekeeper and how close minded he is.
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He didn’t mention the capstones, the the the limestone facing from Tora, he didn’t even talk about it.
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Well, also, this just saying it was the national project, and that’s how they were able to get 80 ton stones 500 miles away through the mountains on sleds. Like, come on.
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The Aslan stones are from 1,200 miles away.
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Yeah.
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You know, the the tourist stones are, I don’t know, twenty, thirty miles away or whatever.
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Those Lebanon stones at Baalbek.
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Baalbek, they can’t I I how many tons is that? You you need a person standing on it to give and see the size of it. You’ve never seen the Baalbek Stone if you’re listening. The thing is it’s it’s like a skyscraper on its ai. Yeah. And it’s one solid piece.
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And it was moved there. Yes. See, pull up the Baalbek Stones in Lebanon because there’s stuff that’s above it that is, like, of a more recent time period, but it seems to have been put there on top of these older stones that are so big they don’t make any sense. Like, that’s just one of them that was quarried but not moved.
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But the ones that are in place, go to the ones that, ai, see, like, these ones, the ones that are above so that the lower stones and the ones above, you don’t realize how big they are unless you can get a human being to stand next to them, but they are preposterously big. Like, there you go. Right.
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Like,
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you 15 feet ai, thirty, forty feet long. I mean, they’re showing in meh, so I’m confused.
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Incredible. Right. And who who did it and when? When was that done? And then there’s, like, Malta, like, that stuff that they think Malta was constructed when the sea levels were much lower. So there was a a way to make a path to there from Italy and from these other places Sure.
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Because they found Neanderthal bones there and
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And vatsal, allegedly, ai built vatsal. And Derinkuyu and all the hidden cities underneath, Cappadocia and Turkey that they’re finding are connected. Bryden nuts. No one knows who made them.
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No one knows who made them, and they can have thousands of people living underground.
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They can bring fresh water from the from the aquifers. They can bring fresh air and circulate it. They have defensive mechanisms with these giant stones, and nobody knows how they made them.
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01:04:30
Yeah. And who?
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And and why? Yeah. Great flood.
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Yeah. That’s the theory. Right? The theory of the great flood and then the Younger Dryas impact theory destroyed the atmosphere where there was just, like, above the Earth, which is, like, chaotic, and they sought refuge underground.
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01:04:47
I lean more toward that that the the ice sheets melted from a solar event than an impact, but it certainly could be either. I mean
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But it could be a combination of these because it’s also they think there was more than one. The the impact event happened. They know this based on core samples, iridium, the the nano diamonds that come from impacts.
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This is the Greenland impact?
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Yeah. Not just Greenland, North America. They think it have I think they found these the evidence of this stuff, ai, 30 of the Earth’s surface where the they believe these things had hit. I think we got bombarded.
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Right. So that would be, like, flying through an asteroid field,
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like Mhmm.
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Like the like the Leonids or the Perseids and the Torres. So the remnants of of some giant object that that is rubble Right. We just fly through it, which means we fly through it frequently.
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01:05:36
We fly through it twice a year.
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Twice a year.
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But we don’t always you know, most of the ai, we get lucky, and it’s not a really a hot one. But, like, what happened to Tunguska?
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Tunguska. Right. That’s that’s Grandma. That’s nineteen o seven.
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And in the same month that we passed through that comet field.
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That’s right. Yeah. Right. That’s over Ai. And that was an airburst, I believe, because there’s no impact crater Right. But it flattened, like, millions of square miles of trees.
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And it’s still fucked to this day. Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah. There’s images of that if you wanna look up that. There’s, there’s actual, like, film of it. It’s crazy. It looks like a a bomb went off.
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01:06:13
Yeah. We’re in a shooting gallery. You know? Earth is flying through a shooting gallery. There’s 900,000 near Earth objects that are just hovering around out there.
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And NASA says we ram most of them. Because in those fields with with the Perseus towards, there are big objects.
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Mhmm.
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There are Earth killers in there. Oh, yeah. You know, and Apophis is is lurking. Apophis is the big one. That’s due to fly by in a few years.
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01:06:40
What’s that one?
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That’s a that’s a giant asteroid that’s, I think it’s due to fly by maybe twenty, thirty something.
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01:06:47
How big is that one?
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I I I’ll get it wrong. I mean, I’m gonna say a million things wrong today. I’ll hear all about it. But it but it’s a it’s a planet killer. Like, it’s a it it’s a civilization ender, and it’s gonna fly near like, we’re gonna be able to see it during the day.
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01:07:02
375 meters across, about the size of a cruise liner. It will pass within 32,000 kilometers of Earth’s surface on 04/13/2029.
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Now stop there. That’s about that’s closer than the moon. Woah. That’s I mean, way closer than the moon. Yeah. So that’s what about 70,000 miles where the moon is Two hundred
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and fifty?
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Two fifty to 300. So we’re gonna see that. What Wow. You don’t wanna see that in in this you don’t wanna look up
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and see that. Well, just knowing that one’s far larger have passed through. Mhmm. And then we know for sure a bunch of hit, you know. For sure. You know, Chichen Itza, that one.
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Ai. Chichen Itza, but that was that was pseudoscience until, the father son went down there and
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found it.
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Mhmm. And that wasn’t that I think that was when I was growing up, the dinosaurs died. It was that was a conspiracy theory. Right. Ai asteroid. Right. Then they and the guy they found it, I
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think, around the knee. Yucatan impact. Yeah. And that’s Under the
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ocean. And the Iridium Yeah. Matches it.
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Uh-huh. Yeah. All that is really spectacular stuff. Yeah. It’s just ai when you look at the moon, you see the craters all over it and realize, okay, this is what happens when you don’t have an atmosphere, and you also don’t have water and you could see everything that hits.
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01:08:19
Like, the whole thing. The whole Covered.
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But why are there so many fewer impacts on the other side?
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Are there? Fewer. Really?
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01:08:28
I can’t I don’t know. The I have I have a, it became a saying on the show. I even have a t shirt. The moon is weird. Yeah. Like, Gino is my my weird topic guy. It’s like, what should we talk about? He’s like, do Hollow Moon. So I went into that story thinking this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
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Right. The
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moon is hollow. And I’m doing the research about halfway through. I’m like, the moon is weird. And then by the end of my research, I was convinced that clearly the moon is a hollow spaceship that was brought here from another part of the galaxy, and it’s here. And the lizard people are absorbing our soul energy. That’s the only explanation for it.
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01:09:02
Probably not true, but, man, the the moon is very weird. Well, it’s also weird that the alignment and the size and the distance of the moon makes the eclipse perfect. Like, what are the odds of that? What are the odds that it it is the exact distance from the sun so that when the moon and the sun align, it’s exact?
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Right. It’s like a 400 to one race. It’s it’s exact.
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It’s nuts.
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But but you could debunk that by saying the moon is getting further and further away.
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01:09:36
Right. But why is it perfect?
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What I mean, we have not found a planet in this solar system or anywhere else that has a giant moon right next to it.
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Core to the size of the Earth.
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We haven’t found it. Yeah. We’re the only one with it. And there are ancient legends that talk about a moonless sky and when the moon ai. And when it arrived, it it caused a, caused a great flood.
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01:10:03
What are the ancient stories of a moonless sky? Where are they from?
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Ancient Indian texts will have it, but also native legends will have it about the moon Really? About a moonless sai, ai
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01:10:13
then the moon arrives. And When do they think the moon arrived?
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It’s it’s hard to tell. You know, I always go to younger Ai younger Dreyas, but but who really knows? The Earth was apparently just covered in this haze, just very wet, very hazy, maybe ai Venus or something like that. Then the moon arrives and all that water from the atmosphere drops down to Earth. The tidal forces are crazy.
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There’s a huge flood and everything just settles, and then the moon is here. And and the moon is now, like, the guardian of the planet, which it really is. We could, you know, we couldn’t really survive without it.
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01:10:47
Because it stabilizes our atmosphere. Right?
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Stabilizes us and Stabilizes our orbit. Our orbit and and our, spin and our axis.
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Yeah. Ai, when
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there’s a major earthquake, the Earth changes speed. The spin chain ai, our spin it change like, measurably if there’s a big earthquake. And if there’s a lot of those, that could throw you off the axis, but the moon steps in like a bouncer and it settles things back down.
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So the idea would be that some sort of a superior civilization place the moon there to ensure our survival?
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01:11:19
I don’t I don’t think they care about us. Really? No. I don’t think so.
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01:11:24
How come?
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Again, we’re we’re we’re in very speak territory because nobody knows.
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01:11:29
Right. But I
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would think it would just be for resources. Hey. This place has a lot of stable water. That’s useful.
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01:11:37
Don’t you think they would be fascinated with us as an emerging civilization? And, like, I would say that if we found a planet that had cave people on it, like, just starting to learn stone tools and stuff like that, we would for sure be interested in them. We’d be so fascinated, and we would probably try to accelerate their learning curve.
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You think we would?
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Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Well, think of what’s a lot of these jerk offs have done with, like, uncontacted tribes and stuff like that. We’re always trying to intervene and do something with them.
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01:12:08
You know the dark forest theory? No. It’s Lucian Shah who wrote The Three Body Problem sana all those.
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01:12:14
Oh.
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Dark forest theory sai that if you attain a certain level of technology, the best thing you can do is just be quiet because because the universe is a dark forest sana the first person to stick his head out dies because you don’t want a competitor in your region. So as soon as a a culture gets close to some technology that could make that they’re on a path to threaten you, you gotta take them out.
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You gotta you gotta halt their technology. And three body problems is ai based on that. That’s what they do in the books. And that seems to make a little more sense to me than sort of this altruistic, hey. Let’s help them, you know, the Star Trek approach.
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01:12:51
Let’s make first contact and all of that. You know, I I like you know, human nature is a tricky thing. We’re very selfish. You know, you and I might want to see those people and help them along, but there’s a there’s a lot of people that would not want a competitor in the neighborhood.
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Well, ram, maybe. But what if they don’t even think of us as a competitor? What if they’re they’re so advanced? Like, if they’re millions of years advanced, wouldn’t they they like, this is the thing that Diana Pesoka and Gary Nolan, a lot of these people that study crashed retrievals, the the there’s a term that they use that these are donations.
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01:13:32
Right. That these vehicles are donations and that the ai is we’re supposed to look at this and formulate new ideas through reverse engineering.
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And there you know, there’s circumstantial evidence that that’s true if you look at Bell Labs and all the crazy discoveries after Roswell. Like, we’re using cathode ray tubes and suddenly transistors are made in silicon semiconductors and wireless transmission, and Bell Labs is all these leaps forward.
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Fiber optics.
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Fiber optics, laser technology came out of Bell as well. And, you know, the retrieval experts say that fiber optics and lasers for sure is reverse engineered. And it kinda makes a lot of sense because it seemed to have come out of nowhere. Suddenly Bell Labs has it. You know, but it it you know, it’s ai question is where where is the stuff? You know, we’ve got World War two. We go into Korea in 1950.
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And at the time, Russia Russia had the Meh 15. It was basically on par with us. I think we had the the f 86 at the time, which and MiG might have even been better. So that would be would have been a great time for some advanced meh. But America did catch up and exceed the Soviets about 51, 50 two, you know, during Korea and then has been superior ever since.
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But you would think that after 47 with the Soviets there, let’s get some of this anti gravitic stuff going.
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01:14:58
Yeah. Maybe the problem is that you’re working in this very compartmentalized environment, so you’re not allowed to share with all these different scientists. So because of that, there’s no collaboration, which is necessary for real innovation. You have to have extroverts from a bunch of different fields ai all the different aspects of it.
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This is what Lazar pointed to the problems that they were having at s four when they were trying to back engineer this stuff. He’s like, you can’t do science like this because everything is so top secret and so compartmentalized. The metallurgists were not allowed to talk to the propulsions people, and no one was allowed to talk to anybody else.
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And everybody was just like, what the fuck is going on? Right. What are these things? Where ai, they didn’t even tell him allegedly, you know, if the story is true. They didn’t even tell him where this thing came from.
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01:15:43
They they show it to him and there’s a United States flag sticker on it. And he’s like, oh, this is ours. Oh, that makes sense. And then he’s examining. He’s like, oh, no. It’s not. Like, there’s no seams in this thing. Like, what is this? What’s what is the metal?
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Why is it designed for something that’s three feet tall? Like, there’s no controls inside this thing. Like, what is this reactor? How does this thing work?
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01:16:06
There’s a chair. Yeah. You know, there’s a couple of chairs. It looks like there’s a neural interface maybe. I you know, you hear a lot of the ai, their frustration. Like, if I could just talk to these ai. Right. You know, I’m I’m picking up a an an EM field from this. The metallurgist would be helpful here
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01:16:23
ai
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tell me what’s going on. You know, I I keep coming across spinning mercury all the time. Spinning mercury. The spinning mercury engine has been part of the lore since ancient India has the Sana. You know, those Mhmm. Those ram. If you look at the ancient text, it meh have been the in the Mahabharata. Yeah.
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01:16:40
But they allude to this liquid meh, and then you fast forward to, like, the Nazis building the bell, the Diglock. That was a Mercury engine. And then we fast forward a little further, Mark McCandlish in the ARV vehicle. The, I forget, the flux ai. That is a that’s spinning Mercury engine.
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01:16:58
So spinning Mercury keeps keeps popping up, and spinning mercury would cause some type of field. What that would be I’m not a scientist or physicist. I’m not sure, but it would certainly throw off a bunch of ions that could maybe be harnessed or used for something.
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01:17:13
Well, it’s it’s like we’re trying to explain things to us based on our current understanding of technology. Like, glass was invented a long time ago, but imagine showing up with a a ram new Samsung Galaxy s 25 Ultra with Gorilla Glass, you know, in a thin frame and looking at the they were, what the fuck is this?
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01:17:38
There’d be statues of you for a thousand years.
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01:17:40
Well, you know what glass is. You know what metal is. Right? Well, this is glass and metal. You’re like, what? What? No. What the fuck is this?
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01:17:47
We took sand and made it real hot, and it made it clear.
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01:17:50
What? Ai. You can drop it on the concrete. It doesn’t break. Ai. Yeah. So just our current understanding of technology based on the origins of that technology, just metal and glass. You know, you you show someone metal and glass is thousands of years old. Show them what we have now with metal and glass, they’d be blown away.
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01:18:11
And you just keep going. Keep going. Go go a thousand years from now. Like, what does it all look like? It’s ai probably some sort of gravity propulsion system, probably three d printed sai there are no seams.
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01:18:23
Right. Yeah. And that’s the frustration about disclosure is how far could we be by now?
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Right.
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You know, had had it been disclosure in ’47 or or whatever.
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01:18:32
It’s even more of a psy ai if it’s all bullshit. Like, it’s a psy op if it’s if it actually is, like, wow. The government is actually really good at one thing. They’re good at keeping secrets about UFOs. That’s right. But if they’re not, if it’s all bullshit, like, boy, how weird that we’ve been, like, focusing on this nonsense.
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01:18:49
Like, as a culture, it got in the front page of the New York Times in 02/2017. But ai, it’s all nonsense.
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01:18:55
Right. That’s almost less likely. Well, if you look at what Doty did in the seventies and eighties with Paul Benowitz, when when Benowitz discovered this advanced technology on Kirtland Air Force Base, He called the base and said, hey. I think there’s UFOs. So they sana Doty out. He was where he was Air Force Intelligence, OSI.
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01:19:13
They sana him out to Benowitz, and they and and he’s like, Paul, I think it I think it might be UFO. It is aliens. And Paul, you know, Paul gets a little bit wacky, and he starts intercepting signals from outer speak. And and they’re sending him messages, but it turned out it’s really the NSA rented a house across the street. And Paul is committed at some point.
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01:19:33
And then Dodi, over the years, changes his story and instances, no. A lot of it is actually true. But Dodi is also he said as recently as 2019, Hal Puthoff tried to recruit him for disinformation campaign with, with ATIP.
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01:19:48
Really? So Hal Putoff has been a part of disinformation campaigns?
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01:19:53
Allegedly. Allegedly forever. And
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01:19:56
what have they been doing with these disinformation campaigns? Whatever they’ve been trying to muddle?
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01:20:03
Just to keep guys like you and me fascinated and trying to figure stuff out while they can just operate their advanced technology in peace. Like, let them think it’s aliens and UFOs. That’s fine.
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01:20:14
What a dirty thing to do to us. Filthy.
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01:20:16
In the fifties, they were very public about anti gravity. It was in the papers that, you know, the g engine, they were talking about it. And then suddenly ai.
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01:20:23
Yeah. Jesse Ai talks about that all the ai, the Townsend Bryden. Yes. Yeah.
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01:20:28
That has and and, Ning Li, remember her story, the physicist who just Ai.
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01:20:33
And then she died in a car accident after she came back from China.
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01:20:36
Oops.
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01:20:37
Whoopsies. Mhmm.
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01:20:38
Yeah. Yep. So that was so that was AC Gravity, if you guys wanna look that up. She she used to give talks and all of that. Mhmm. She was funded by DOD for $400,000, so we know that for sure. And then she just goes dark. She goes dark for eleven years, shows up, I think, in 2013. She’s back. 2014, she gets hit by a car.
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01:21:03
Why is it so fun?
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01:21:04
I don’t know. Mark McClain just found all that stuff, ends up killing himself.
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01:21:08
All that stuff is so fun, which is why the Y Tyler are so good. Because it’s ai, I always get the same feeling when I watch your show. It’s like, oh, what is the answer? What is real? What is it? But it’s what is it about us that’s so intrigued by these mysteries? I There’s so much that we know that is real.
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01:21:27
Just the just the nature of the cosmos vatsal, of black holes and solar nurseries and all all the wild shit that’s absolutely real. But there’s these things that are ai, yeah. But what is that? I I don’t think enough people are interested in it, to be honest.
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01:21:44
I think that’s part of the problem.
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01:21:46
Well, Ai don’t you think it’s because for the most part, it’s dismissed. And if you engage in it sai, like, if you’re a normal person, not like you or I, but if you’re a person that has, like, a job in an accounting firm, you’re, like, a very respected legitimate person, especially, like, pre 02/2017, pre the New York Times arya.
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01:22:05
And you wanna start talking about, like, gravity propulsion systems ai the government’s been hiding, and it is back engineering ram. They’ve got crashed UFOs, and there’s one of them. It’s only, like, a couple hundred feet ai you go inside of it. It’s the size of a football field.
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01:22:20
Like
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Right. Like the TARDIS.
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01:22:22
Yeah. Or the one in Korea that’s so big they had to build a building around it Mhmm. Because they couldn’t move it. Right. I wanna know what that is. Sai.
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01:22:31
Same. I don’t I wish more people were interested in it.
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01:22:33
I’m I would almost be willing to run for president just to get access. Just ai I ran for president, the company would be in shambles, but everybody would know everything about UFOs.
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01:22:43
Dude, you have no shot.
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01:22:45
You have no shot. Shot. They’d kill me for sure.
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01:22:47
I can’t I can’t believe the things you say are news.
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01:22:50
Oh, yeah. Well, it’s because news is, like, really dead.
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01:22:53
Yes. That’s that’s what they’re they’re angry about about independent media.
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01:22:57
Well, they are, but it’s also the news is not so their business is just clicks, and what better way to get clicks than I said something crazy. Mhmm. So then, you know and then it also ai supports the idea that we need to be gatekeeped and someone needs to, you know, be able to stop us from spreading misinformation ram my favorite term, malinformation.
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01:23:18
This is something that came up during COVID that we need to stop the spread of misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation. Malinformation is real information that is true and accurate but would be negative in its impact to ai, which is It’s bonkers. Crazy.
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01:23:39
We can’t live in that society.
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01:23:41
Well, that’s they’re they’re making us infants. Right? They’re saying we can handle this, but the the vast majority of you, even though we’re all supposed to be equal and the government’s supposed to be working for you and serving the people, no. We will have this information, and we will know what we’re doing, and you won’t be able to have access to it because you’re not ready for it because you’re too stupid.
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01:24:00
They lost. They lost already. They just don’t know it yet, but they lost.
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01:24:04
They lost a long time ago.
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01:24:05
I’m gonna I’m gonna put out an episode about how dragons are real. And when I get to the debunk, I’m gonna say nothing. They’re real. Peace out.
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01:24:13
Triangular spacecraft. What is this?
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01:24:15
I stumbled down a little rabbit hole and found a patent that exists or did exist. It was abandoned in 02/2006.
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01:24:22
This could be the I forget the title. The Sai r is was it 7 R B?
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01:24:27
Is it t three b?
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01:24:28
T three This is ai the ones that they always see, like the Phoenix lights and that one. So it says a spacecraft having a triangular hull with vertical electrostatic line charges on each corner that produce a horizontal electric field parallel to the sides of the hull. This field interacting with a plane wave emitted by antennas on the side of the hull generates a force per volume combining both lift and propulsion. What?
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01:24:55
Wow. All the math, but, like, I don’t know ai to do this math. And if someone
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01:24:58
Oh, we need to get Eric here.
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01:24:59
Someone can look at it and be ai, that’s not real.
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01:25:01
Get Eric Weinstein to, like, do that meh.
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01:25:03
Hasn’t been made, obviously. Or or know of.
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01:25:06
Has been. Ai what yeah.
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01:25:07
And I’m surprised it’s not classified.
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01:25:10
There’s other according to this article, that’s where I found it. There’s it ai about the t three b thing.
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01:25:15
Right. So that that is that’s a real experimental aircraft.
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01:25:17
Does America have a reverse engineered UFO?
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01:25:20
Oh. But this goes back
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01:25:22
to 1991 with
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01:25:23
a desert storm. There’s reports of what they call the t r three a, which looks a lot like what the stealth bomber kinda is.
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01:25:30
Yeah. But also Woah.
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01:25:32
Yep. No control.
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01:25:33
T r three b is said to be ai nothing we’ve seen before.
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01:25:38
This was what the I got to from liquid mercury. I was trying to find stuff about it, and there’s theories that people sai that, like, this is probably what they’re running off of.
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01:25:46
It’s supposedly powered by a reverse engineered gravity drive that was recovered from a crashed bryden spacecraft. The T R 3 B is where reports of UAP performing seemingly impossible aerial maneuvers intersect with stories about very real aircraft.
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01:26:02
Read the next paragraph.
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01:26:03
There are lots of claims over the Internet about t r three b’s anti gravity drive, most of which include using nuclear power to rotate highly pressurized mercury to produce plasma and, in turn, a gravitational field. Woah.
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01:26:20
Something about the meh.
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01:26:22
Have you ever heard Eric Weinstein talk about this, there’s a college in Upstate New York that has an incredibly overqualified physics department, and they’re attached to a hedge fund that does Bernie Madoff type numbers. Yes. And he thinks the whole thing is a cover for some sort of advanced physics that they’ve been keeping a lockdown on.
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01:26:43
And it would make total sense. I mean, SRI would be another good example of that. Right? Ai how where how was in the seventies with Project Stargate and all of that and separate.
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01:26:52
The idea that the government can’t keep secrets, like, what about Epstein? What come on.
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01:26:57
People ask me all
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the time.
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01:26:59
In front of everybody’s face, and they’ve kept the list a secret.
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01:27:02
We’re never gonna see the list. Stop asking me. You’re not gonna see the list. Why not? Because everybody all your heroes are on it, and they’re on it a lot that’s never coming out.
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Yeah. And, you know, the you know, I have a friend that thinks, like, a lot of the world events that you’re seeing, one of the reasons why people support it is because of the Epstein, because of the list, because people are compromised, because no one can talk about things, you know, which is, like, really wild.
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So the government can keep some secrets. Manhattan Project was
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was a secret?
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They yeah. They did a great job with that. And that was one that, you know, I mean, it was a race between us and the other foreign powers. They were all trying to come up with a nuclear bomb first. We did it first. The idea that there’s no way that we could have some sort of advanced propulsion system and that modern physicists would be aware of the state of the art and they would tell you, yeah.
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No. This is not possible. I don’t I don’t think that’s correct. I think you could probably if you were working on something and you had a very specific hierarchy and you were really good at compartmentalization and you were recruiting these people at a very early stage in their career, people with promise, these geniuses, giving them a very high salary, a prestigious position, but then everything’s locked down.
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Cell phones, email, you they’re under constant surveillance. And if somebody steps out of ai, like the lady in Maryland, the Chinese lady
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Yep. A lot of them.
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Yeah. A lot
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of them go that way. Yeah. You know, I’m I’m very I’m skeptical about a lot of the whistleblowers, especially the ones that come out of air force intelligence and all that. But
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do. Even when I’m talking to them, I’m like,
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Well, I mean, you know, I have I have kinda have that needle of skepticism, and it starts with do you have a background in intelligence? Yes. Military intelligence. Sai force intelligence. Are you are you still on the payroll? Right.
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Did you
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get your information cleared from the Pentagon?
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Yeah.
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Do you have a book? Yeah. And it all goes. Did you did you release some photos that were fake? Ai over here. Then you go Bob Lazard. He has none of that stuff. Did the government target you? Did they try to discredit you? Yeah.
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You know,
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have you been ostracized? When when Lazar came out, I think it was to to George Knapp.
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Mhmm.
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He was he didn’t say his name.
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Right.
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He didn’t have any books. The first book, I think, was with him and Jeremy in 2019.
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Right.
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So Lazardomy is the most credible of the whistleblowers.
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Right.
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But, but Jeremy and George just had a whistleblower a couple of weeks ago. He’s pretty credible. He’s a young guy. He’s clear clearly nervous, and he has some very interesting information about, what is it, immaculate constellation.
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Which guy is this?
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I don’t I don’t remember his name. It’s very new.
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Is that the bald guy? No. The No.
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No. The the bald guy, I think, is Air Force Intelligence, the Imperial this is a kid whose career is ruined, and he’s maybe in his twenties. And you can see he’s clearly nervous.
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And what is his claim?
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His claim is that he was going through some files. You know, he’s got top secret clearance, and he found the Immaculate Constellation project, basically, a PowerPoint presentation. And his job was just to sort these files. He and he’s looking through it, and suddenly, it’s like, woah. This is about recovery and alien ram.
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And, and he did the right thing and went to his superiors and said, you know, there’s a leakage. I saw information I maybe wasn’t supposed to. I’m just letting you know. And his peers were like, forget about it. And he’s like, and that was it. It’s just no reprimand, no nothing.
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I just went back to work. But he was too fascinated by the document, so he kept pursuing it and pursuing it. And, and now he talks about it. I don’t know his name, but if you track down, you know, Jeremy and George, you’ll find it easily. That’s the kid.
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Yeah. So here’s a way that I would kind of try to debunk that of I was being logical. If I was the government and I did have some very sophisticated propulsion system that’s beyond the understanding of what we think to be current state of the art physics, like, beyond far beyond that, I think I might release a bunch of horseshit about UFOs.
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A %.
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Yeah. I might put a bunch of that stuff out there to say, oh, it can’t be ours. It’s not ours. It’s it’s not of this world. Muddy the waters. Yeah. Not not just that, but attach, like, really kooky stuff to stuff that’s real so that you think the real stuff is kooky.
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Right. Like like the drone scared. Remember that? That that was very manufactured, and the the press was all over. We don’t know where the drones are. They’re all flying over the military bases, all of that stuff.
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Ai What do you think that was?
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I know what it was. I’ve seen the NOTAM reports. I don’t you know what NOTAM is?
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No.
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That’s a notice to airmen. So ai, private pilots meh warning of no fly zones. And, usually, you’ll see a lot of swaths carved out if, like, Air Force one’s flying through. But for some reason, this NOTAM reports have all these little circles all around that you can’t fly through where the drones were, and I’ve seen that.
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And when did the drones they suddenly stopped when?
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Right.
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Right before inauguration day.
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Yeah.
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And then no and no one talks about the drones anymore.
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Yeah. It’s gone.
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Gone. I mean,
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it was mainstream news all over the place.
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And they had people nervous. Yeah. They had them nervous, and
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I think that was the point. So you think they did it as a ai just to see how people would react?
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I do. And meh, I know nothing.
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Right.
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But that is my opinion is that it was ai and that most of this is.
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01:32:34
If there are visitors and there are from somewhere else, wouldn’t the best way to prepare us just to start flying a bunch of, like, really wacky shit that we have in the air and not explain it?
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That would be a good way to prepare us.
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Get us comfortable with seeing things hovering over New Jersey that defy what our understanding of drone capabilities are in terms of the time that they can stay in the air. Some of them were in the air, like, for five hours.
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But if that but if that’s what was the reason to get us ready, it backfired because it freaked people out. People were very nervous about it. Ai, so our military installations are vulnerable.
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Mhmm.
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People were very frightened.
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That was the other thing. Ai, Wright Patterson Air Force Base had some drones, and then they had to shut the base down.
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And Wright Patterson is is ai ground zero for all of it, Project Blue Book that Roswell. Roswell went there. Yeah. The second ram.
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What’s the second crash?
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The second crash was some miles north and west of there, and you’ll hear Doty talk about it. And that’s where other pilots were recovered. I think the total of five Pilots? The the EBEs. Oh. The EBEs. And according to to Dodi and others, one of the EBS was stayed with the government, I think, in Los Alamos for five years, saloni 1952.
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There was EBBA one or whatever. He ai strawberry ice cream.
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01:34:00
Who doesn’t?
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Who doesn’t. Right? That’d be the first thing I do if I went to Planet Serpos. What’s the ice cream like here?
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01:34:07
Well, just the idea that they would eat ai we eat seems crazy. Right. And then also they could breathe our air. Like, what are the odds of that?
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You know, the theories are, you know, we never see alien shit or whatever, but but there’s always a rebuttal is that, you know, they have a metabolism that absorbs nutrients and their waste is recycled and all of that stuff.
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Photosynthesis or something.
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Something like that.
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01:34:30
Well, they do seem genderless. Mhmm. Genderless, giant heads. You know, I always say that the archetype, like, the the grays, like, close encounter grays, if you go back to, like, Neanderthals and then you go back to, like, Australopithecus covered in hair, heavily muscled, and then you go to, like, the average dude who plays Call of Duty, you know, like, what do we do?
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I play
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Call of Duty.
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It was fine. It’s a great game. But you know what I’m saying? It’s like people become ai these frail, muscle less things and then your head keeps getting bigger and bigger as the mind evolves and then human capabilities increase in terms of ai our ability to communicate telepathically, all these different they no need for mouth noises anymore, so your mouth shrivels up.
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There’s a little sai.
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01:35:15
And why the eyes are so big and black because you’re evolved underground?
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Oh, I thought it was, like, sunglasses built in.
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Well, it could be the same. Like, that’s what
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I thought. I’m like, well, that looks like sunglasses. Right. Like, you’re gonna protect your eyeballs if, like, your atmosphere is far brighter and, you know, you have to be able to see things.
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01:35:34
I think that was there was one retrieval story that that had that. Like, one of the black eyes was half open that they thought it might have been something that Like a little shield? Like a shield. Like, it’s a legit recovery story. I can’t remember it offhand.
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Ai, camels have a weird shield over their eyes for sandstorms.
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01:35:52
Right.
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Yeah. Like, they have, like, an eyelid, a clear eyelid that covers over their eyes that’s they can, like, go through sandstorms and not get blinded.
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01:36:03
You know, it’s an interesting point that you brought up about Neanderthals is ai a lot of people don’t know that just just about fifty thousand years ago, Neanderthals had basically an empire Yeah. Over over all of Europe and and
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Hundreds of thousands of years ago.
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Hundreds of thousands of years. And then suddenly, boom, they’re defeated by frail, weak, careless humans out of caves. And it’s attributed to we figured out a bow and arrow, you know, we could harass from a distance projectile weapons, and that’s how we defeated this vast empire of Neanderthals who were not stupid, you know, who were
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Bigger brains than ours.
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Bigger brains than ours. They had art, culture, music. They trained in warfare. They had organized warfare. I mean, could you imagine staring down the barrel of a division of organized Neanderthals coming at you?
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01:36:50
Right. Like, essentially super athletes. Yes. With chimpanzee like strength.
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01:36:55
Right. And speed Yeah. And intelligence, and we came out of the caves and defeated them.
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01:37:01
Okay. And eyes so large that they think their eyes might have been they might have been able to see nocturnally. Mhmm. Yeah. I love that episode you guys did on Neanderthals. You debunked it at the end, but the idea that they they were, like, more ape like than they were human.
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They look like monsters, dark skin, fangs, and Yeah.
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01:37:20
That was a cool episode. They’re mostly debunked, but yeah.
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01:37:23
But, I mean, there probably was some hunting of humans, you know, for sure. And when you’re dealing with something that’s a far superior physical specimen
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01:37:35
Yeah. When you eat
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01:37:36
denser bones Sure. Much stronger than us.
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And when we know that we have some of their DNA in us, and it’s you know, when when you hear, oh, we interbred with them, that’s not precisely how it went down most likely. It’s most likely the women were carried away. What is well, that’s how the interbreeding happened.
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01:37:54
Yikes. Uh-huh. Yikes. Or horny men and some lonely Neanderthal lady. Some dudes like a big lady. There’s no shame in it. Yeah. A big thick one to make you some fucking warrior children.
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That’s it. Just wanna be cock.
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01:38:10
Someone’s just got dense bones. You know? I’m looking for a lady with a dense head.
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01:38:17
Let’s have a dense baby.
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01:38:18
Yeah. What do their fucking language sound like? What do them? It’s ai the we used to think of them as being really stupid and until they ai that their brain mass is actually larger than ours and they’re capable of language and all these different things, like, okay. Like, how did we beat them?
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I don’t know. That is a puzzle. The, you know, the answer is projectiles.
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01:38:39
Well, it kind of makes sense. I mean, if we were the only ones to figure out bows and arrows and ad libels and all that kind of stuff. It would work. Maybe. Yeah. Especially if we ai. You know?
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01:38:51
But you could still overwhelm how you know? Mhmm.
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01:38:55
You can
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overwhelm a few archers with just we would just throw bodies at it. Mhmm. You know, warfare has been fought like that for humans forever.
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01:39:03
Just Maybe their language is too crude to allow for that ai of communication, like, to strategize and to you know you know what I’m saying? Like, maybe their language is, like, very bryden, normal day to day stuff. I’m hungry. I wanna fuck. Like, just kill these people. It was not complicated enough to say, like, we had an issue here. Right. Here’s the issue.
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01:39:23
We gotta get around them from the back end, you know, and you guys gotta distract them from the front, and this is what we’ll
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do. You know? Sai mean, that’s the only thing that makes sense. Yeah. But it still doesn’t make complete sense to me.
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01:39:35
Ai were their brains bigger than ours? That’s the weird one. Like, we associate larger brains with more complex thinking. So why would what we think of as the most brutish version of human beings?
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01:39:47
I don’t know. But don’t don’t Neanderthal brains, even though they were larger, had fewer convolutions. So
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01:39:52
Oh, really? Do we know that?
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01:39:54
I that’s part of my research, which, you know, most of it’s bullshit, but that’s what I read. You know, large brained, but not as powerful. But Interesting.
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01:40:03
Well, so maybe the large brained was attributable to physical capability.
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01:40:09
Just the fact that you can produce music tells me a lot so so much about your brain.
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01:40:14
And they produce music?
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They produce music. How do you know that? We found we found relics and artifacts of it.
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01:40:19
Of musical instruments?
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Instruments and cave ai and all that stuff. We you know, they used needles and thread to make clothing. Really?
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01:40:28
Mhmm. Wow.
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01:40:31
Yeah. Very strange that we beat them.
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01:40:33
That’s a Neanderthal tool?
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01:40:35
Flute? A flute?
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Some sort of flute.
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01:40:37
Woah. A bone flute.
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01:40:40
Made with the bone of your defeated enemy.
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01:40:43
Yeah. Some dude you
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ate. Mhmm.
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01:40:46
Made a flute out of his shin. Oh.
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01:40:49
I figured out that death whistle back then too. That’s that’s sort of musical.
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01:40:53
Oh, the ass Aztec death whistle. Not the sai, but Aztec death well, that’s that’s a scary one.
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01:40:58
Yeah. Ai Saloni blew it on the show in 02/2019, and COVID started right afterwards.
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01:41:03
That’s some of the demons.
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01:41:05
Yeah. I think remember that?
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Yeah. It was just January 2020.
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01:41:08
Oh, okay.
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It ai, like, weeks weeks weeks before.
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01:41:11
Weeks before the lockdown?
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01:41:12
COVID was already here.
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Might even been closer.
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01:41:15
I think COVID was already here by then.
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01:41:16
It’s like with the anti gravity. Why can’t we cooperate with the Chinese? Yeah.
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01:41:20
Nope. Nope. Well, we
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01:41:22
ai we kinda we know how to do that.
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01:41:24
Yeah. Yeah. It’s also fascinating to me how many different versions of human beings existed. You know? There’s, the Hobbit people on the island of Flores. Right. That’s a fascinating one. Florian since something like that. Physicist, whatever it is.
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01:41:41
Yep.
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01:41:42
Yeah. The three foot tall little furry creatures that they think had tools and Yep. Wore clothing and all that jazz.
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01:41:50
Yeah. And there’s even the different branches ai Cro Magnon is not really from our branch. That’s Really? That’s a different yeah. We branch from a different branch. So that’ll Denisovans. Denisovans. Right.
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01:42:02
And then the what are the big head people that they just found recently? This is, like, super recent. Like, there was a a an article that was made in December of twenty twenty four about this other new branch of the human species that had much larger heads than ours. And they think it was ai this really thick, muscular, like, heavy human being. What is it called again? Jeweler. Jeweler. Jeweler.
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01:42:27
Yeah.
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Big head people. Which we yeah.
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01:42:31
So they disappeared around the same time as the internals fifty thousand years ago.
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01:42:35
Have you seen the images of what they the reconstruction? Shah meh see go to some of the drawings of what these people look like. They looked fucking insane.
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01:42:43
Were they taller?
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I do not know. I don’t know how tall they were, but they look fucking cool as shit.
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Yeah. There was, like, a jack one
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wasn’t there? Yeah. That’s the one I want. No. That’s one, but that’s not the one we’re looking at. We’re looking at one that theorized that it was completely covered in hair.
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01:43:08
Interesting.
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Yeah. Sai this is a very recent discovery. So how many this is the thing. I think something ai 90% of the the species that that have existed, we don’t have fossils for.
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01:43:22
But that well, I mean, 99% of species ever existed are gone.
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01:43:26
Right. But fossils are very difficult to happen because it has to happen in a mudslide. Somehow the body has to be preserved and it’s mineralized.
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01:43:34
Right. I don’t know how many dinosaur complete fossils we have. Of, like, a T Rex, I don’t even think we have a complete one yet, but one or 2,000,000,000 T rexes lived and died on the planet. We have a couple of skeletons. Right. It’s billions.
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01:43:48
Right. Ai. Yeah. And it just makes you wonder when they’re finding things like this in 2024, how many are yet to be discovered? I mean, how much of the ground’s surface has really been excavated to a very high level?
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01:44:02
Right. Yeah. Very little and and it’s and it’s very difficult to even dig there. I mean, what’s happening in Turkey is a shame with Gobekli Tepe. Mhmm. You know, just paving over it and planting orchards on top of it.
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01:44:15
They took they’ve taken down the orchard. They did? They’ve taken down the yeah. The olive trees, the problem with that was that and this is Jimmy Corsetti had talked about this long ago that the the issue with them doing this is the roots are gonna destroy the artifacts below.
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01:44:29
And they’re ai, no. No. No. No. It won’t. And then turns out, actually, it is. Mhmm. So they had to pull them.
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01:44:34
And so they they pulled the, olive trees. But they planted them purposely over the the area, which is like
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01:44:42
I’m glad Corsetti’s out there. I like him, and I know him pretty well.
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01:44:45
He’s great.
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01:44:45
The Turkish government, I think, has banned him
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01:44:48
Mhmm.
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01:44:48
And he’s trying to get him in trouble here. Ai to get him sanctioned.
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01:44:51
Sanctioned? How do you sanction the guy off YouTube? I For what?
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01:44:56
Look. Look. When you were when when CNN was going after you and they were, like, trying to get Spotify to to cancel you, creators like me who go against ai mainstream were very nervous.
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01:45:07
Mhmm.
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Because, like, if YouTube just pulled my show, I’m kinda fucked. Right. So it’s ai if they could take down Joe, we’re done. Yeah. But they you know, Spotify with a lot of respect hung fast.
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01:45:19
Yeah. We’ve talked about that. Like, if I wasn’t on Spotify ai I was only on YouTube at the time, I might have been fucked. Ai you mind? They were taking people down for actual real truthful information Yes. That was, in their eyes, malinformation that would cause vaccine hesitancy. Yeah.
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01:45:35
Still no apologies. No. But, you know, it’s a risky time, you know, to be non politically correct, you know, before it was safe to.
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01:45:45
Yeah. It was arya very dangerous time and weird because it’s, like, instantly dangerous. Like, it wasn’t like that before, then all of a sudden, like, anything you could say could get your career ruined. Yep. You know, and you’re and again, everybody turned out to be right. Everybody was right that masks don’t work.
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01:46:00
Everybody was right that the vaccine didn’t stop the infection, didn’t stop
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01:46:04
Wasn’t a vaccine. Transmission.
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01:46:05
It wasn’t a vaccine. It has a bunch of side effects.
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01:46:08
The the pangolin is nonsense. I mean, we knew that all of this was just intuitive. Mhmm.
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01:46:14
The lab leak theory was racist.
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01:46:17
That was racist.
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01:46:19
Oh ai goodness. The r word, dude. They tried anything. They tried anything they could to silence any opposition. Why? You were gonna say something. Do you mind? You’re gonna say you got a quicker question, I think. I forget. We steamed over it. But we’re talking about, like, the weirdness of that time about how dangerous it was. Like, you know, it was real touch and go. It was real weird.
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01:46:38
There was, like, a lot of forces that were trying to get me removed because I was talking to people that they were deeming quacks. One of them, which is Robert Malone, who has nine patents on the creation of mRNA vaccine technology. These are rock solid credentials these people had.
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01:46:54
They weren’t kooks ai Jay Bhattacharya. All these people arya Stanford, MIT, Harvard, all these the all the people from the Great Barrington Declaration. These are legitimate researchers and scientists that didn’t agree with the narrative, and they were getting them removed from Twitter.
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01:47:10
And they had awards Mhmm. Through their careers, highly revered and respected, and then suddenly no. It
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01:47:16
didn’t matter because these people, unfortunately, had a conscience, and they were saying, well, this is not what I know. I am an actual expert, and I do not think that the information they’re giving out is correct. So I’m gonna speak my mind. And I just they were just and then there’s also a concerted effort by Fauci, like, and his group to go after these people and to attack these people publicly.
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Yes. And, when it was very early on, I forget even what paper I had. I released an op ed in some paper, criticizing a lot of this and lockdowns. You know, ai, my dojo was closed down and was trying to fight with masks on. So I was angry. And then within weeks of that, it suddenly became politicized and I was like, now I’m fucked. Now it’s a political issue? How is it if this a political issue?
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Right. But it was. It was politicized, and I don’t know why. I don’t know why Ai don’t know why it was all shut down.
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I think it’s all just money. I think the vaccine companies wanted to make as much money as possible. And then anything that contributed to vaccine hesitancy was not for the greater good of public health. It was because the more vaccine hesitancy, the less profit they would have.
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I think it’s real simple.
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Yeah. I agree, but that’s really gross.
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It is gross. But it’s also gross that they would prescribe it for children because it was totally unnecessary. So the only reason why they would prescribe it for children or mandate it for children to get into schools because they wanted to make as much money as possible. And they made an insane amount of money. So it did work. It was effective. But, boy, did it destroy a lot of credibility.
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It certainly did. It it definitely worked. Where my wife was working, they it was a mandatory vaccine situation, but it she was working remotely, so didn’t really have to get it. But I can see that the narrative was starting to catch with
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her. Mhmm.
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And I’m like, honey, hold fast.
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This is
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a this is a story. You know, it’s a it was a left wing company, and they’re just following the narrative. They don’t just hold fast. Do don’t get that shot.
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Mhmm.
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And she didn’t.
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Yeah. Luckily. I know people that did. I know people that have real fucking problems right now.
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Same. Yeah. Loss like, they got long COVID suddenly.
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Yeah. It’s weird that long COVID is something that mostly affects people that have gotten vaccinated, but they wanna call it long COVID. They don’t wanna call it vaccine injury. Nope. This is the whole thing is, like, very creepy because it just shows you if something is, like, very clear and obvious and it’s a real disease and we know the origin of it now and we know that all this stuff has been done to obscure it, How many other elements of ai, how many other stories that are in the news have also been distorted and twisted around in order to promote a very specific narrative, and how effective have they been at doing this?
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It’s not like this is the only time they’ve ever done this. So COVID was kind of a window into disinformation and about how the government can use these ploys and manipulation and, you know, using these tactics of humiliation, humiliating these established ai, ruining their careers, attacking their credentials, and what what other things have they used these on?
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What other, you know, geopolitical aspirations have they masked in all this bullshit? Like, it’s the whole thing is just like, it’s very disconcerting to find out that the people that have been running the country are super comfortable with lying.
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Here’s the good news. It is the irony of COVID is the forces that were forcing us to be locked down and stay home gave rise to independent creators and journalists and independent thinkers and folks like you. And because of their forcing the lockdowns, they destroyed their own industry.
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Yeah.
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And there’s no going back. I mean, I haven’t watched MSNBC or Fox News in years, and you turn it on. It’s like, oh, this is just I hear the same stuff from the left and the right. I just hear the same stuff. I get my news from YouTube, from all different sources, and that’s what I want. And they destroyed their own industry.
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Yeah. And it’s interesting to see, like, was what is it gonna look like, you know, five, ten years from now? Because five, ten years ago, you’d never ten years ago, you’d never would have imagined that CNN would lose all its credibility.
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No. That would we watched, you know, Desert Storm on there. Yep.
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Everything. Always. When you wanted to get the news. And it was always also, CNN CNN was thought of being as this, like, sort of nonpartisan environment for the news. It just showed you what the news was. And then somewhere along the line, it became very editorialized, very opinion based, and very, you know, these people telling you to do your own research.
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Do not do your own research. Like, imagine saying don’t read. Right. Don’t read. You’re not smart enough, AJ. Right. You think you can go read? Right.
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You you absorb information? You’re not smart enough to absorb information. Leave that to the experts.
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Don’t listen to Rogan. He takes horse pills. Got that from his doctor, you
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But it’s also calling it horse dewormer was so stupid because everybody knows it’s used on humans.
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Oh, ivermectin’s in my cabinet. But it’s just
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a simple Google search would tell you that something’s wrong.
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That’s required medication for foreign service.
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01:52:24
Yeah. So it’s one of those things where you wonder after something like that has been happening. Well, this seems like a playbook they’re really comfortable with using. How many other things do they use this on? Like, what are what other aspects of society are just complete horseshit?
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When did it really start? Right.
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You know, I’d you know, probably during the forties. Maybe even before because if you read War is a Racket by Smedley Butler, that was ’33.
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General Butler. Yeah. The the business plot general. Yeah. Yeah. He he was a very, very honest guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. If you guys don’t know the business plot’s worth looking into, that was a they tried to recruit him to overthrow the government.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Because he had all the troops at his disposal.
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Yeah. That was wild. They were gonna have a coup.
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They were gonna have a coup.
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Ai States. Mhmm. Yeah.
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And nobody has answered for that. That’s that’s the JPMorgan’s and that whole set.
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So this kind of thinking has been going on forever. And now and then there’s also kind of gatekeeping of information, like hiding the truth from people in order to preserve narratives, in order to preserve power and authority.
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Well, let’s connect let’s go back to to Butler for a quick second. You’ve got Tesla who gets funded by JPMorgan to create wireless technology, but Tesla gets a little ambitious and says, I’m gonna do wireless communication, but I’m I’m gonna take your hundred and $50,000. I’m gonna do wireless energy, and we’ll do free energy around the world. And Morgan’s like, how do you put a meter on that?
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Tesla’s like, what do you mean this propel mankind forward? Morgan pulls his funding Mhmm. Tells everyone in the investment class, this guy’s a a kook, and if you invest with him, you don’t do business with me. A few years later, Wardenclyffe Tower gets torn down. Tesla dies in poverty. Yeah. And where are those 20 boxes? Yeah.
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And why why was the government so quick to respond to that crime scene?
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Yeah. They showed up at that guy’s house quick. They gathered up all that information. I wonder what they got from that.
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Uncle uncle uncle John Trump there was in charge of that. Right. What did they get in those boxes?
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01:54:22
Donald Trump’s uncle reviewed Tesla’s death ray secrets and found mysterious royal letters.
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01:54:28
I think that
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Well, he looks like a Trump, doesn’t he? He kinda does. How does ram Trump look like if he didn’t do the comb over?
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Wasn’t he working out of Wright Patterson as well?
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Was he?
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For this?
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Wright Patterson is a weird place. Like, they think that that’s where one of them is. Yes. Yeah. You know the the Nixon story with Jackie Gleason?
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I know that Gleason was into UFOs. Tell the story.
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The story is Gleason got into UFOs because him and Nixon were drinking one day. And Nixon was like, Ai wanna see some shit.
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I wish I was drinking with that.
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You’re right. And then he takes them. He flies them out to wherever the base is and shows him a crashed UFO and these bodies that they have in freezers.
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And it was Wright Patterson?
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I do not know. I do not know. I don’t know if Jackie Gleason ever sai. The story came from Gleason’s ai, and it was an article in some sort of a magazine. But then there’s the house that Gleason built in Upstate New York that looked like a UFO. Like, Gleason built a home. Yeah. That was ai like a disk.
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I’m gonna look into this. It’s such a good story. I wonder where they went.
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Reportedly would have been in Homestead Air Force Base. It might be in Florida.
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In ’73.
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So I think that’s where they were when that when they were playing golf in
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’70. Was reportedly shown embalmed bodies of four alien beings. Dun dun dun. So Nixon exposes UFOs to a civilian, and then
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it does not go well for Richard Nixon after that.
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Well, I think what went badly for Richard Nixon was that Richard Nixon was inquiring as to who killed JFK, and he said he thought he knew. And he was kind of talking about it publicly, and they’re like, okay.
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Yep.
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And they had already, you know, brought in Gerald Ford, kicked out Spiro Agnew. They got rid of him. Gerald Ford, who was also in the Warren Commission report.
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That’s right.
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They and then all of a sudden, Nixon and Watergate happens.
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Nixon, the most popular president of all time. Of
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all time. And it turns out that Bob Woodward was actually an intelligence agent, and this is his first project ever.
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Operation Mockingbird.
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And then the people that were involved in the break in, all Ai. The g g Bryden Liddy? Yeah. The whole thing is a coup.
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01:56:33
Hall was a coup. Hall was a sinner.
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And we’re all parroting, you know, Nixon was a crook. That guy was a crook. He was this or that. Like, they did a great job. The ai was wonderful.
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I’m a patsy. Yeah. They say it over and over.
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01:56:46
Mhmm. Yeah. It’s all really, really interesting stuff. But it’s just, you know, it what what come what it boils down to with stuff like your show, like, how much of it is how much is real, you know? And when you have these mysteries, one of the amazing things about mysteries is you’re never gonna run out of topics. No. There’s so many of these things.
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And as long as there’s a US government, I’m I’m good. Some of the CIA exists.
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01:57:15
They’re always gonna be hiding something, but the the fun ones are always the alien ones. That’s the most fun ones. The alien ones, the ancient civilization ones. Like, what do you think when when you go over the Bob Lazar story, like, what what do you ai much have you how much of you cries bullshit?
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How much of he’s ai,
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I’m more on the side. I think he’s the most credible whistleblower because he he Didn’t profit
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from him.
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Profit, and they, Ai mean, they prosecuted him for run for running a prostitution ring. Mhmm. You know?
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Which maybe he was.
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Which I think he was.
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He he
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pled down to pandering, but
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he They also raided him during the Jeremy Korbel documentary. While they’re filming the documentary, the FBI raided his facility. Mhmm. And they said they were looking for something. Meh supposedly, he has a version or a a sample of stable element one fifteen.
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01:58:10
What?
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That’s supposedly. Yeah. And that’s supposedly what they were looking for.
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Well, of course.
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Supposedly, he had gotten that from the lab. And when when he was at s four and that he had managed to smuggle out a a stable chunk of this element one fifteen, and there was a video that George Knapp had from back in the eighties where Lazar was demonstrating how this stuff bends light and, you know, what it does.
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Like, it has weird effects.
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How soon after that raid was one fifteen is now called Moscovium. How soon after that raid was one fifteen synthesized? I think it was synthesized in Russia.
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It’d be Well, synthesized by a particle collider. And so the the when they got it is a very temporary, quickly dissolving form, but they proved its existence. Mhmm. And supposedly, what Lazar is saying, wherever these beings are from, they obviously have a completely different ai, and they have a stable version of this this element. Yep.
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And this element is crucial to this gravity propulsion system. That it’s a part of this reactor. It gets bombarded with radiation, produces this gravity field, allows you to just slingshot through the the universe.
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I I don’t know. Are they working to stabilize it? You know, I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, man. I
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don’t know. Ai they raid Bob Lazar?
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That’s that’s that spectrum of believability again.
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Mhmm. Exactly.
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A guy who’s being attacked and and tormented.
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In the middle of filming the documentary. I mean, I just had my fight
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first IRS audit. I don’t know how you’re doing.
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01:59:42
Oh, what’d you do? I didn’t do anything.
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01:59:44
I don’t work in weed anymore.
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01:59:46
What do you think they were auditing for you you for? What what what when you go over all your episodes
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I’m sure it’s just coincidence.
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What do you think? Definitely coincidence. What do you think are the most problematic?
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02:00:00
Most problematic for me are probably this the, the CIA ones. Sai the one I did that ended with the Agent Orange ai of expose was a kind of a dangerous one. Sai it was the dark history of DARPA and all the bad stuff that DARPA’s done since, since its founding. It’s done some horrible horrible, horrible stuff, and that was an episode I was afraid to release. There’s been a couple of those. Yeah.
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MK Ultra is kind of afraid to because I named names. A scary one was, how Lyme disease might have been a lab leak.
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02:00:30
Yeah. That’s a weird one. That’s sai Bobby Kennedy fully believes that.
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That was Eric Ram was, like, the chief Nazi biowarfare specialist that was brought here, operation paperclip.
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And We do all that. We do know that there have been some studies done where they were trying to devise diseases that they could aerial spray, whether it’s through bugs or something, onto a population, overwhelm their medical system sai they’d be easier to defeat.
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That’s documented.
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02:01:00
Yeah. The entire enemy, super weak. Everybody’s weak over there. And then
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Also documented is some ticks got out. Dun dun dun. Some ticks got out. So it’s you know, when you look at Ai, Connecticut as ground zero and it just spreads from there, and there was no Lyme disease before, That’s a scary one to release. Yeah. But whenever I get into Operation Paperclip, I always hammer home. These are Nazis. We you know, Wernher von Braun is not a hero.
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He’s a hero, but he’s not a hero. You know, a lot of these guy these is all evil dudes. And most of the operation paperclip was just bringing over intelligence assets. They don’t like talking about that. It’s the 1,200 scientists that we learned about.
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It’s not the 6,000 intelligence agents that just lived here until the seventies and eighties.
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02:01:47
Right. Oh, with their fucking dueling scars on their faces.
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Mhmm.
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02:01:53
Scary looking dudes, like, right out of Indiana Jones.
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Right. SS on the shoulder.
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And that’s what was a part of NASA that was running NASA. Like, Wernher von Braun was an actual Nazi, and he was the head of NASA.
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He and SS Nazi. So the v one rocket program killed 3,000 people in London but killed 30,000 Jewish slaves building the rocket. You know, way 10 times more people died building the thing. And if you didn’t work hard enough in the rocket factory, they would just hang you for the raptors.
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But Von Braun said he didn’t know anything about it, And all of his team sai, we we didn’t know anything about it. Okay.
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02:02:29
Well, that’s convenient.
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Well, every time I bring up someone who’s from there, I just remind everybody, these are Nazis. These are liars. These are bad dudes. That doesn’t mean, you know, they’re not they didn’t do amazing things for America because you could do both.
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02:02:44
Yeah. That’s what’s weird.
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You know, the v one rocket eventually becomes Saturn five, which takes us to the moon, allegedly. Allegedly.
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02:02:50
Ai the allegedly. Yeah. That’s my favorite one.
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02:02:53
Same.
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02:02:54
Did you ever see the episode I did with Bart Sabrel?
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Yes. And I talked to Bart from time to time. He’s
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02:02:59
Boy, he’s all in
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All in. For decades. Eventually, I’m gonna do a conversation podcast, and, he’ll be one of the first guys I have on.
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02:03:08
I had dinner with Bart Sabrel in, like, the year 02/2003 or something like that. I had dinner with him in Los Angeles. I, I had seen a funny thing happen on the way to the moon, which what year was that? Great ai. What year was the funny thing happen on the way the moon released? So it was, like, shortly thereafter.
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Somehow I do I do not even remember how I got connected with him. But we had dinner in Los Angeles sai this Italian restaurant, sana I sat down with him. 02/2001? ‘2 thousand ‘1. Yeah.
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So it was probably around 02/2003 that that Bart and I had dinner. And then, you know, twenty two years later, I had him on the podcast.
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I I need to look at it. Going after it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He still emails meh, and I’m like, Bart, I’ll have you on. I’m just I’m still building the studio.
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02:03:54
Well, he’s so all in on this. And the more you talk to him, the more you go, goddamn it. He might be right.
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He might be. I debunk a lot of his claims.
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02:04:02
Which one?
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02:04:03
Not all of them. You know, ai, the parallel shadows and and how there shouldn’t how a shadow on the moon should be completely black, but that’s not really bryden. And shadows, you
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know Well, things are reflective and the surface is reflective. That’s part of the issue. But the parallel shadows are fucking weird. Like, you could find a reason why these intersecting shadows could exist, but it also could be more than one source of light.
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Sure.
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It’s there’s more there’s a lot of weirdness to it.
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And shadows are not parallel. They don’t work that way. Shadows disappear to the to the to the horizon. Right. You know, there are no parallel ai.
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02:04:41
Right. But going in completely different directions is very odd.
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It, it’s odd.
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02:04:45
But odd. That that’s not nearly as odd as Ai mean, there’s so many different things. You know, there’s there’s so many things, like, how goofy it looks when that craft lifts off from the moon and takes off into space. It’s wobbling around like it’s on a fucking string.
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Looks like it’s on a string and,
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you know It’s so fake.
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The camera tracks it nicely. Pans.
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02:05:07
But it’s From where? From from Houston?
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From Houston with the what? Seven second delay or whatever?
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02:05:14
How about the fact that Nixon is on the phone with them? In real time? In real time. Like, you don’t got a delay that would be with 1969 technology communicating. Like, one of the reasons why Gus Grisham, you know, the this is the the big theory is that Grisham was murdered because he wasn’t willing to go along with it.
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02:05:34
Gus Grisham hung a lemon on the lunar module because he wasn’t wasn’t able to communicate with the tower from Earth. It the communication system wasn’t working. And he’s ai, this is a fucking lemon, and he puts a lemon on a coat hanger and hangs it on the thing. And then
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Well, let’s go back and look at the original films, and we maybe we’ll learn something.
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02:05:54
Oh, they they don’t have them anymore.
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Gone. They’re gone. They don’t know.
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About the telemetry data. That’s really important. Gone.
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With the episode I did on the on the moon, which is a fun one, I even have a NASA scientist saying we don’t know how to redo the technology. We just lost it. Yeah. Didn’t write anything down or nothing.
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02:06:12
And then there’s the reality of the Van Allen radiation belts.
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That’s true. That it could be explained scientifically. Can it? The the the radiation is high particles, high voltage, all that, but they’re spread wide apart, so you just gotta go really fast through them.
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02:06:28
Right. But it took hours to get through it. It. It did. It did. But they
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still were moving fast. Sai look.
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Or or kill everybody.
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Or we kill everybody. That this is why these people
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but the Apollo astronauts ever got through that. What I ai say is, like, they never even flew a chicken through that shit and had it come back alive. No. And they’re just gonna try it out with people?
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02:06:45
Lyca the dog did not survive Alright. When they threw Lyca up there.
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02:06:48
Well, how about Operation Starfish Ai? Where they they shot a nuke into there to try to blow a hole through it and it wound up making it more radioactive.
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02:06:57
Of course.
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02:06:59
They thought they’re gonna blow a hole Right. In the Van Allen radiation belt sai they could just pop through that hole.
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02:07:04
Right. And and now thanks to that, we’ve got the South Atlantic anomaly where there’s just no protection anymore. We appreciate all that.
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02:07:10
They blew out the power in Hawaii. Right. Yeah. They fucked up the grid. They were detonating nukes in space.
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02:07:18
Really crazy.
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02:07:19
The people in the nineteen fifties and sixties were buck wild.
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02:07:22
They were.
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They were just they had so much power. There was no Internet. There was no ai. And they were doing things that, like, were completely new, like nuclear bombs. And they’re like, let’s see if
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it does this. Even Oppenheimer, they didn’t know what was gonna happen? They
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02:07:35
had a more than 0% possibility that it was gonna cause a chain reaction that would destroy the entire environment of the Earth. Yes. And they were ai, let’s see.
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02:07:47
Well, we gotta try it.
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02:07:48
There’s only one way to know. Mhmm. Ai. Detonate it. And then
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02:07:52
and something like Bikini Atoll, which I think was Castle Bravo, was, like, three times more powerful than they thought. You know? It’s like Yeah. We’re going for 10 kilotons, but we got 30? Dude, you gotta carry the one. Be careful. Be careful. Just be careful. Carry the one.
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I don’t even know why we meh with it.
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02:08:10
Yeah. It’s well, it’s too late. Too late. The genie’s out of the bottle. So if you had a bet, if you had a hundred thousand dollars and you can give a bet, we went to the moon, we didn’t go to the moon.
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02:08:24
That vatsal money is not enough. But, gun to the head.
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02:08:28
Gun to the head.
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Gun to the head. We went to the moon without people. Ai would, that’s what I would go with. But let me preface by saying, on my head, I’m like a bobblehead. I go back and forth, and I can meh be convinced one way or the other. It’s a it’s a very complicated issue. Like, I can be convinced both ways.
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02:08:47
There’s also the weird footage that looks like they’re on wires where they’re pulled up when they fall down.
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You could see the reflections. Uh-huh.
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02:08:53
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:08:54
I get into Weird. It’s it’s a good episode. I get into all of that. I cover cover Bart. Buzz Aldrin knows how to throw a shot. Kinda. You get
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02:09:03
his hip into it. Cold shoulders. But it’s also the thing is, like, every other technology from 1969 is cheaper, easier, and faster to reproduce today except the moon landing. Right. That no one has ever done it again. No one has ever even been to deep not human beings have ever even been to deep space.
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02:09:22
I you’d I don’t there’s no and I don’t know why. You know, if we could three d print anything, why don’t we send the three d printer up into orbit? And then every time Elon launches a Starlink, just bring some substrate, bring some wire, and just deliver it there. Every time because you’re gonna do 10,000 of them.
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02:09:40
Just bring some wire, bring some wire, bring some aluminum, and we can just build the stuff in orbit. We don’t have to worry about escaping gravity. Just build stuff up three d print stuff in orbit.
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02:09:51
It sounds a little more complicated than you’re making it out to be, but I see what you’re saying. You know, the the film footage, the lost footage that Sabriel had is also very compelling, where it looks like they’re filming the moon from, you know, 30,000 miles out. But then when they pull the covers off the windows, it shows you they’re actually in near Earth orbit.
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02:10:12
It fills up the whole window. And they even say in that film, we’ve got the camera right up against the window. Ai can no one can get in between it.
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02:10:20
But then someone walks in
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between the ai. And then you see what looks like a like a piece of plastic. Go
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whoosh. Uh-huh. Yeah.
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And then everything opens up.
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Uh-huh. That’s a hard one to explain. It is. And then not for public display? Not for right.
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02:10:34
That’s absolutely right.
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02:10:35
It’s and also, the the why would you ever delete all of the original film? What why would you destroy the original film? Why would they lose the telemetry data?
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02:10:47
And we don’t even have a direct feed because they broadcast the feed on a wall and then pointed a TV camera at the wall. Yeah. And that’s what we see.
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02:10:57
Yeah. That’s why it looks so shitty on television in 1969.
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02:11:00
Because the networks were like, hey. Can we get the live feed? And I was ai, ah, you don’t need that. It’s so weird. It’s weird.
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02:11:05
It’s a weird one. It’s also just weird that we keep saying we’re gonna go back, and we still never even get out of Earth’s gravity or never even got out of Earth’s atmosphere ai Earth’s orbit rather.
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02:11:15
As soon as the Chinese start mining, like, helium two or whatever Mhmm. We’ll meh we’ll get there.
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02:11:20
And people always say, oh, well, there’s photographs of the the the lunar lander on the moon. You can see it.
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02:11:26
Like, how’d
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02:11:28
they get that buggy up there? How’d they piece that buggy together? Yeah. Little tiny ass fucking lunar module.
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02:11:34
Because you can’t see the tracks up there if, you know, if if you believe this stuff.
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02:11:38
What does that mean? How easy is it to there’s there’s video of me selling Kentucky fried chicken. Oh, I gotta look that up. There’s, like, you know what I’m saying? I gotta
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02:11:45
write that down.
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02:11:45
It might not even be Kentucky fried chicken, but it’s ai, there’s AI video of me hawking all kinds of stuff that I’ve never even seen.
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Ai know. You show up in my feed. I’m like, oh, he’s selling chicken.
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02:11:55
It’s all fake. But but that is easy to fake because it’s blurry blurry nonsense photos.
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02:12:01
In my episode on the face on Mars, I show exactly how NASA copy and pasted cloud formations. I you literally see it’s the same cloud formations. And then you see the Mars photos. They copy and pasted chunks on Mars. They did that. Like, I didn’t make that up. I just
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02:12:16
What do you mean by that? They copy and pasted chunks on Mars?
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02:12:19
You’ve got this, Martian rock face. Cydonia. Over Cydonia is where the face was and the alleged city and all that. Square. And the square is crazy.
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02:12:29
The square, but that’s a recent one that we’ve been seeing.
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02:12:32
Yep. That one’s nuts. Cydonia was one of the original landing places, and they changed it at the last minute. Why? I won’t land there and go to the face. Let’s see. Because if if you don’t know the story about the face on Mars, the first image is it does look like a face, and then suddenly the images got blurrier, and then it was just kind of a plateau.
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02:12:53
It was, you know, pareidolia. It wasn’t really a face.
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02:12:56
Right.
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02:12:56
Well, then land there. Drive drive, you know, Sojourner over there, whatever.
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02:13:01
Let’s have a look. What’s crazy is that the face is ai down the street from the square. Yes. The square to me is way more compelling than the face. Because if the second images were more clear and it really is just how do you say that word again? Pareidolia. Pareidolia. That’s really what it is.
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02:13:16
That kinda makes sense. Because the first one’s, like, real blurry and shitty and it’s from the seventies. True. Right? But this square is nuts. Right.
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02:13:24
It looks it looks geometrical. You ai, right angles.
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02:13:27
And us an actual square or at least similar to a square. It looks like a structure made out of right angles, and it’s on the fucking moon. I showed it to Elon Musk. I’m like, oh, very interesting. We should probably go up there and look around.
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02:13:40
We should. Yeah. I mean, they’re finally admitting that Mars used to have an air an atmosphere and and oceans, giant oceans.
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02:13:46
They’re finally getting frozen water on Mars. Yeah. Which is ai, okay.
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02:13:50
Yep.
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02:13:51
Well, if we go back millions and millions of years, like, what what did it look like? What was going on there?
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Remember they sent Joe McMonagle to remote view back on Mars.
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02:14:00
Oh, what did he say?
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02:14:01
He said he saw giant tyler beings there in a very advanced society. And, John McMonagle, part of the project Stargate, remote viewer. So that he goes into his thing and he’s he’s drawing the aliens and the the cities and all of that, but he didn’t know where he was looking.
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02:14:17
They, you know, they wouldn’t tell you at first. And then he’s done. He comes out of his transfer, whatever, opens the envelope, and it says Mars with coordinates 1,000,000 BC or something. He said he saw stuff. And Arya again, Ingo Swann saw all kinds of stuff on the far side of the moon, which I don’t see I don’t hear covered a lot with Ingo.
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02:14:37
But he remote viewed the moon because he always wanted to do more stuff. He’s like, I don’t wanna look at a bridge. I ai go to the moon. And he said he saw structures on the far side of the moon that sound a lot like Karl Wolf, disclosed in 02/2001. Karl Wolf
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02:14:51
What did he disclose?
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02:14:53
Karl Wolf, air force airman. He’s basically a technician. Fix it. Think of a a Xerox repairman. He he has to fix some imaging equipment for NASA slash DOD. It’s images from the from the moon surveyor. So he goes in. It’s a dark room. The guy’s working there. The guy’s like, Carl, look at this.
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02:15:12
It’s pictures of the dark side of the moon. He sees domes, towers, roads, all kinds of stuff. I can’t believe it. And Carl goes home and he tyler his wife, I can’t wait to see this on the news. This is crazy what we found on the like, this is a civilization on the moon and it just it just goes away. And Carl Wolf said he saw that.
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02:15:31
If you
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02:15:31
Remote viewing.
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02:15:32
No. Photographs. He saw photographs? He saw photographs of it. He saw photographs.
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02:15:38
Who took the photographs?
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02:15:39
It was the moon surveyor satellite that takes pictures all the time. It’s it’s like we we have images. We have stuff around the moon. I don’t know why there’s no webcam. You know? I don’t know why we can’t just tap into the
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02:15:53
end satellite up there.
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Or something. They’re they’re there. Just send a signal back. I I read that they just got, like, five g working in space. Send us sai send us a signal. Put a webcam on the ISS. Let us tune in. So Carwolf saw that stuff. Ingo Swann saw the same things, but he saw actual beings there and he said they were able to sense his consciousness and he, like, snapped out of it.
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02:16:18
He said aliens are on the far side of the moon and they are not our friends. It’s a very interesting story. Ingo Sana, very interesting
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02:16:27
cat. So what took these photographs?
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02:16:30
The moon surveyor, lunar surveyor, ai
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02:16:34
None of that stuff’s ever been released?
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02:16:36
Oh, they released a lot of images from the far side, but they release what they release. That’s why we know there’s fewer impacts on the far side because we’ve seen those images.
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02:16:45
But there’s no images of these domes or what?
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02:16:48
No. Ai seen some that maybe are faked that look pretty compelling. I forget what episode I I just showed them in, but when I found them, I I was it was mind blowing. And now I can’t find them again for some reason. Like, I I wanted them for another episode, and I I can’t find the photos, which is always suspicious to me.
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02:17:05
It’s like it’s like suddenly the thing is blurry off, off of Malibu. So you just can’t find the stuff. But, so Ai you know, my gut tells me something’s going on up there. Someone’s aware of it. Ai I just I’m dying to know what it is.
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02:17:22
It would be unbelievable if Mars was the first planet that had life before Earth was capable of supporting life. It reached a very high level of sophistication and started seeding Earth.
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02:17:35
Right. Panspermia theory.
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02:17:37
Yeah.
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02:17:37
I believe we have, at least one rock from Mars that just landed here. I think we have one of those. So ram maybe a giant impact or something through some of Mars over here.
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02:17:47
Dump. Dump. But the idea, I think, is that their atmosphere was deteriorating or that they were getting further and further from the sun.
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02:17:56
The the their magnetic field was weakening
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02:17:59
Mhmm.
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Strips away the atmosphere.
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02:18:01
And so this would be the thing. If you were a super advanced civilization, the race would be get so advanced that you could leave your planet.
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02:18:09
Yes.
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02:18:09
And that’s the only way you’re gonna survive because, eventually, your planet is going to move over millions of years further and further away from the sun, not able to inhabit life anymore.
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02:18:20
Right. So maybe send your DNA or whatever to
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02:18:24
the third rock. Or Anunnaki. Or Anunnaki. That’s the good one.
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02:18:30
Yeah. They show up everywhere.
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02:18:31
That’s the ultimate one.
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02:18:32
That is the big one. The the Anunnaki is the big one.
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02:18:35
That’s that’s a good one. That’s that’s one that makes you go home.
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02:18:39
Because it shows up everywhere. It shows up in the Ai. It shows up in the Mahabharata. It shows up in ancient Chinese literature. It shows up everywhere. Not always called the Anunnaki, but, the Anunnaki and then they have their sai their servile species that could be the Nephilim, could be the ai, and then they take take these primitive humans, give them just enough intelligence to mine, you know, to mine the gold
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02:19:04
as part of the lore. Yeah.
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It’s a good one.
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02:19:07
Oh, it’s the best one. Mhmm. It’s the best one because when you do look at ancient Sumer and you you look at their detailed map of the solar system, you’re ai, what the fuck is that? Like, how did they figure that
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02:19:21
out? Right.
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02:19:21
Like, you’re talking about six thousand years ago, they had depictions of the planets all in the proper air like, they weren’t the exact right size, but, like, the bigger ones were in the place where the bigger ones would be. The smaller ones in the place where small would be was representative. And the sun looks like a sana, like, it’s got the rays around it Right.
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02:19:40
Showing that this is the center of the solar system.
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02:19:43
Right. And this is to well, how many thousands years before Copernicus. Right? Yeah. Didn’t even know. Something I don’t think doesn’t get enough attention is when these ancient cultures are obsessed with equinoxes. A lot of people think equinoxes when day and night are the same, but that’s that’s not what that is.
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02:20:00
That’s when day and night are the same is called the equilux and it’s different for everybody on earth depending where you are. An equinox is when the Sana is over the center of the Earth’s equator. Well, how did you know there was an equator? So Stonehenge is aligned to the equinoxes.
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02:20:17
How did you know there was an equator? And how, you know, how was the the pyramid the sizes are directly divisible to a number like forty three two hundred that could be factored in to calculate the circumference of the Earth sai you can calculate the equinox. How did they do that?
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02:20:36
Right. And how is it pointed to true north, south, east, and west?
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02:20:39
How did they do that?
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02:20:40
Why does it mirror the stars of
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02:20:42
the Orion Belt? But mirrors them thirty thousand years ago because of precession.
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02:20:47
Right.
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02:20:48
So I’m in the camp that the Egyptians found the pyramids, not built them, but I’m glad Zahi’s not here.
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02:20:57
Here. Well, that would, you know, get you to the ancient civilization theory. But when you’re looking at an ancient civilization that is as complex as Egypt, and then you factor in the Anunnaki story and all these other things, you gotta think, like, why were the Egyptians so advanced?
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02:21:12
Like, where did they learn this from?
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02:21:15
Christopher Dunn has the answer.
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02:21:17
What did the power plant? Power plant. Yeah. Is that what you think?
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02:21:21
You know, it’s one of my favorite episodes because Ai, you know, you can either watch my stupid thing with the fish or the better thing is to just buy Christmas books and and read the science. Oh, don’t be a sheep. Don’t be don’t be a sheep. The next one’s gonna have taxes are theft.
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02:21:37
For people who don’t know, if you haven’t watched the shah, hecklefish talk shit from the aquarium during the entire show, it’s really a funny little it makes the show fun because it’s, like, shows you’re not totally taking it seriously. You have a talking fish who talks shit to you the entire time.
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02:21:54
What I’m trying to do is take weird topics, complex topics, break them down, make them accessible to everybody, have a good time, get you thinking on your own. If I get things wrong, that’s okay. As long as you go out and just get interested in stuff. That’s what I’m trying to do.
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02:22:07
Have fun and get you interested.
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02:22:09
Have you been looking at all under the structures underneath the pyramid?
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02:22:13
Yes. And, Ai skeptical of that research because if you look at the imaging, Sai don’t see the coils or any of that stuff. I don’t see it. They also said they found the tomb of Nefertiti. No. This tomb of Osiris. It just looked like splotches on on on arya. And they also they haven’t released any of that information to the scientific community. Nothing’s peer reviewed.
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02:22:36
But when it first hit the news, I was like, that supports the power plant theory, the coils, and all of that.
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02:22:41
Mhmm.
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But I have a feeling that their research will be debunked. Hope I’m
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02:22:45
wrong. Really? Well, they they re released more of it. And the because they released more of it and the conversations that Graham Hancock and Brian Murarescu had with them, well, they were initially skeptical as well. They’ve come around more to thinking that these guys might be onto something. Because they’ve done this multiple times now with multiple scans, they keep getting the same results.
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02:23:06
And it does kinda look like coils. When you look at the images, first of all, the pillars. The fact these pillars are uniform and they see and then the fact that the structure goes down two kilometers into the Earth
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02:23:17
Yep.
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02:23:18
Like, maybe people four thousand five hundred years ago were so motivated. As Zawe said that it’s ai, this is the project of the entire country, the pride of the country. Mhmm. Okay. Maybe. Maybe.
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02:23:31
But two kilometers down, like, we’re starting to get real crazy.
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02:23:35
I mean, if you look at the so, like, the temp Khufu Pyramids, perfect. And then you’ve you look at the pyramids that were built later that we know were Egyptian built, and it’s like the Timu version. It’s ai you didn’t you’re not even it’s ai a mess. It’s just a pile of rocks
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02:23:50
Yeah.
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02:23:51
Where where the Great Pyramid is ai. And there’s no reasons for these different chambers and the chemical residue ai, And why are there copper rods going down into the aquifer, which is exactly the technology Tesla was using at Whartoncliffe Tyler, the same exact technology.
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02:24:08
Why? You know, there’s hydrochloric acid. We have evidence of that. And we’ve got the, zinc sulfide, and it creates hydrogen atoms that go up the gallery. And then there’s an opening that’s exactly the right wavelength for hydrogen to flow through, and it resonates at four forty Hertz, and it makes an f sharp chord.
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02:24:24
And you’ve got the it’s tuned inside the king’s chamber to exactly that chord. Or, you know, maybe it’s just a place for a dead guy. You know, the why use rose quartz, which is so highly you know, rose granite is so dense with quartz. It’s very rare, but it creates a lot of piezoelectricity when you apply pressure to it.
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02:24:45
And hydrogen could do that if you if you pumped it through the the king’s chamber.
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02:24:49
It’s so fascinating to me that the gatekeepers are so they’re they’re so reluctant to even consider any possibility that it might have been something other than what they’ve initially asserted.
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02:25:01
It’s frustrating, but it it it ruins their career and their reputation. It’s ai everything you said was wrong.
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02:25:07
Over time, I I have a buddy who just went to Egypt, and he hired these two archaeologists to take him on a tour, and both of them were saying there is no way the original the the actual mainstream story is accurate. They’re like, there’s no way. Like, this stuff is beyond. And then as he was, like, going through it with him, he said he was just fucking blown away.
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02:25:26
He said, I haven’t been, but he sai, you can look at it all day on television and on your laptop. When you go there, you’re just ai, what the fuck?
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02:25:35
I’d love to see it.
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02:25:36
Yeah. We should go together.
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02:25:37
Let’s do it. Let’s go.
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02:25:38
Let’s ai. Zahi wants me to go with him, but I just don’t think I could. I think after an hour, I’d I’d be like, dude, I gotta get away from you.
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02:25:45
Yeah.
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02:25:45
You’re freaking me out.
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02:25:46
He’ll ruin everything.
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02:25:47
I discovered this. This is my discovery. Yeah. Just
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02:25:53
He didn’t even mention the limestone from tour. Didn’t even touch on it.
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02:25:57
What’s the significance of that?
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02:25:59
It’s a great insulator of electricity. It’s also ai from very far away. We know it was definitely there. Herodotus talked about the limestone pyramids that could be seen from the mountains of Arabia. So Herodotus, they were still there. We know that the limestone facing was there because a lot of it was looted after a couple of earthquakes. They built bridges out of it.
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02:26:20
You can go touch it. It’s there. But he didn’t talk about it. But if the pyramid power plant theory is true, then you use the limestone as an insulator. Inside, you’ve got the granite, which creates this piece of electricity, and then you’ve just got this other limestone in between that kinda keeps everything
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02:26:37
modulated. So if it was a power plant, like, what was it powering, and how was it doing that?
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02:26:43
That’s the big problem I have is, you know so if Tesla wanted to project this energy into the ionosphere, and then we can everyone could tap into it with some type of receiver, like a radio. But there’s no evidence I can find of them powering anything. So we can make the the argument that maybe if the capstone were gold, this energy could resonate through the center of the pyramid, come up through the golden capstone, and then go straight into the ionosphere.
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02:27:08
And we know that the pyramid will resonate at certain frequencies and amplify it. That’s been tested at about 200 meters is the ideal wavelength. But the only other theory is the obelisks at some point were these receivers. But there’s no evidence that they powered anything.
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02:27:24
But maybe they used the energy for something different.
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02:27:27
I don’t know. And if we’re looking at the wrong time line, if we’re not really looking at February BC, if we’re looking at 30,000 BC or something even before that, which is also a weird thing that Ai dismissed. He dismissed this idea of the king’s list that goes back 30,000 years. Right.
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02:27:45
Yeah. And he says that just Mitt. Mitt. Ai. Just Mitt.
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02:27:49
Yeah. We know exactly. Also, he said he didn’t believe in carbon dating, which is like Yeah. Well, that’s convenient.
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02:27:56
That’s convenient. Yeah. Did not believe in carbon dating. And and what about rock dating? That, you know, that is that is a thing with certain types of rock. Ai, not so much, but something like igneous rock, you can you can you can get a pretty good idea.
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02:28:10
Yeah. The whole thing is very weird. It’s so weird because it’s so vast and so spectacular that no matter what you think, no, no matter what theories you have, you still have to look and go, how the fuck? Like, it’s so it’s so nutty that you can’t even imagine people making it. Right. Not people as, like, we consider people today.
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02:28:27
Like, if a a civilization today,
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02:28:27
ai, ai, for some reason, no one had ever visited a part of the Earth, and then they went to a part of the Earth and they saw people with these structures today. We’d be like, what happened? How did you do this?
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02:28:47
We would think they were wizards. Wizards.
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02:28:50
Ai and beyond. 2,300,000 stones. Mhmm. Hundreds of miles through the mountains, you carried the big ones for the inside the king’s chamber. You you you put them up a 30 feet up in the air?
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02:29:02
With a ram.
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02:29:03
Yeah. I don’t think
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02:29:04
I don’t think so.
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02:29:05
But it’s all just if they did, how where’d that technology go? Where’d that construction knowledge go? Like, where did their engineering go? Like, how arya people that advanced that long ago?
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02:29:18
You know, I Ai like the acoustic levitation theory is an interesting one where they use sound vibration to lift heavy objects. You know, we see that occurring throughout history as part of lore. But even in the ai thirties, a British maybe he was an archaeologist, naturalist went to see Buddhist monks And using instruments, he watched them levitate heavy objects.
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02:29:42
And there’s film of it. This is this is all the legend. And when he when he went back to The UK, they seized the film. But they were using instruments and chanting to levitate these rocks up a cliff face to build whatever they were building.
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02:29:54
Well, how about that wacky dude in Florida that made the Coral Castle?
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Oh, yeah. That’s, Edward Lee Scanlon. I found it’s hard to find, but I found him using levers and pulleys and stuff to do it. It’s still amazing what he did. Yeah. Ai himself. By himself. Ai, he’s, like, five foot one, a hundred ai pounds.
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And I think that door is tons, and you can push it with your finger. That door in the Coral Castle is amazing.
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And supposedly did it for his girlfriend?
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I didn’t I didn’t read that.
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His beloved? Yeah. He did it to impress a lady.
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You went too far, man. You don’t have to do that. Just you just buy a nice car. Don’t don’t do the the she doesn’t care.
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Anybody could buy ai car. I’m gonna rock this chick’s world.
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Literally gonna rock her world.
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She’s gonna see my coral castle, but this motherfucker’s the one. She bailed. She you
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you bail if a dude builds you a castle.
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You’re like, look at the time. Mhmm. Gotta go. Mhmm. Yeah. When you do these shows and, you know, you’ve amassed, like, this channel now with all these, like, fascinating things, which ones to you are the most exciting to create?
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The most ai.
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Like, one of the ones you get really jazzed about.
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The the ones that that that ai shatter my belief system, like the hollow moon or the the crop circles.
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The the the ai of the moon being hollow is because they shot something into the moon and it rang like a bell. Right. Right. Well, a few things.
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You know, one was they deliberately crashed their their rocket into the moon to and there was seismology, you know, seismographs were placed in the moon to to check what would happen. And it did reverberate, but mainstream ai says it reverberates because it’s extremely ai, and that’s why ai waves travel like that. That’s what they say.
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But other scientists have said there it seems to be if it’s not hollow, there are hollow cavities within the moon.
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And why do they think that?
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Just just the way that the sound travels and just how there are parts of the moon where the surface dirt is let me get this ai. Where the surface dirt is older than the dirt underneath. The soil on top is older. And the only way you can do that is through excavation. Moonquakes. Yep.
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You know, and the and the moon had volcanoes on it at some point.
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Passive seismic experiment ai monitors were placed during the Apollo twelve mission, remained active until 1977, recording both natural and human made moonquake ai. Human made moonquake also. Why are they doing that? Right. Why are you trying to make moonquakes? In fact, moonquakes happen fairly regularly as space debris like asteroids hit the moon more frequently than Earth because the moon’s atmosphere is much less dense.
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Right above it, it
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ai. They they detonated
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or they crashed the the module back on the surface.
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One ton of TNT. Good idea.
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Oh, wow. First human made moonquake to take place, the PSC ai monitors oh, seismometers size seismometers, record the resulting vibrations which were much bigger and lasted much longer than the scientists had anticipated. They were far different from the earthquake vibrations we’re familiar with.
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And that next paragraph said it’s because the moon is 60% as dense. It doesn’t mean it’s hollow, but it’s just different. Right.
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Right. So if the if the collision theory is true, which is the mainstream theory, then the moon was made mostly out of Earth’s mantle, which will be less dense is why. It just kinda clipped us. Yeah. But the moon is weird.
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Yeah. So the hollow moon one freaks you out, crop circles.
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Crop circles. Though you know, those are the fun ones. I do the the conspir the government conspiracy ones are interesting to me, but a lot of times they make me angry. So it’s it’s not really fun, but I think it’s important.
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With the CIA stuff, Meh Ultra.
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MK Ultra and Agent Orange, that stuff really makes me angry.
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Yeah.
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You know, the the DARPA episode, I I I end up kinda losing my temper and crying a little at the end, which I didn’t mean to do. It and it was just in the course of the research. Just that’s what happens. Things start to unfold. I just wanted to see DARPA’s history. And as I’m learning about it, it’s like, oh, these guys did some bad, bad stuff.
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And then when you get to Vietnam and, you know, you got they got the chemical company, Dow Chemical, and, DuPont and all this creating Agent Blue, Agent Purple, Agent Orange.
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Yeah.
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And, and more I mean, more American soldiers got sick than actually got killed in the conflict. You know, my I dedicated the episode to my father-in-law who had all kinds of injuries from Agent Orange. The government denied any responsibility for years. They finally agreed to a settlement in 1981. He applied for his benefits, and the government made due. They they kept their word. He got a settlement forty years later.
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Jesus. And even that’s never gonna be enough to deal with all those health problems.
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Right. So your country needs you and you answer the call, and then when you need your country, take
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a number. And your country needs you based on a false flag.
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Gulf Of Tonkin.
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Yeah. Which is also very dark. LPG. They they fake attacks to get us to go to war. And then there’s operation Northwoods, which is a really wonky one.
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That was the one to get us into Cuba.
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Yeah.
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And and that was probably the beginning of the end for Kennedy because I because I believe Kennedy put a put a stop on Northwoods.
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Mhmm. And Bay Of Pigs wouldn’t allow air support. Ai. He got screwed
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on that. And the Bay Of Pigs, that was the end. That was where Kennedy says we need to start again. We gotta dismantle this and start again. Huge. I can’t rely on my intelligence community. And Yes. And Eisenhower he talked to Eisenhower a lot. And Eisenhower gave him advice and said, watch out for the CIA.
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Keep an
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eye on them. Because remember when Eisenhower left, he gave that famous farewell address where he sai, beware of the military industrial complex. You make war profitable, you’re gonna have more war.
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Mhmm.
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Because America was never like that before. You know? We kept we had a defensive military, not an aggressive military forever.
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Profit is where the devil does his best work.
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That’s right.
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Yeah. That’s right. That is from the Bible, isn’t it? It might be. But it that’s it’s really what it is. If evil is real, justification for evil, like, if you have a compartmentalized situation like they do with corporations where you have this diffusion of responsibility because you have a bunch of people that are all working together.
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Hey. It’s not my I’m just working. This is part of my job. And And then you have a responsibility to shareholders to make maximum profits every quarter, and then you justify all kinds of things and you get rewarded. Great job.
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You did a great job, AJ. We like how you made those profits. Mhmm. You got a nice fat bonus, and then, you know, you drink yourself to sleep every night.
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My my stepsister just retired from, from Grumman. She worked in top secret ram. She won’t tell the family what she did.
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Dun dun dun. She wants to ai. Good. Keep your mouth shut, lady.
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Keep it shut. Lisa, be quiet.
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I’d keep my mouth shut.
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She never said a word.
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Why would you? No. It’s not worth it. No. It’s not worth it.
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Pension’s too good. Also, like,
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you don’t wanna die. You know? It’s just ai they get rid of people. If if you’re in the business of killing people, which is what military contractors are, they are in the business of killing you if you get in the business of killing people. Mhmm. They’re ai, oh, we just have to kill one more person, then we can kill a whole bunch of other people and make a lot of money? Yeah.
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Of course. Oh, look. He’s got he had a heart attack. Whoopsies.
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He fell out of a hotel when the Frank Olson murders is is taught by in Israeli intelligence is the perfect murder.
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Which one’s shah?
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Frank Olson was part of Meh Ultra and was starting to have second doubts about it, So they sent him to a psychiatrist who he didn’t know was actually worked for Sydney Gottlieb and was, you know, into ram, and he was freaking out. And he’s up in a hotel room with with someone else from Meh, and he falls out the window.
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But if you look at the window where he fell, it’s ai, you know, two feet by two feet. You can’t just jump out the window. So he was found on the sidewalk by the doorman. That’s Frank Olson worth looking up.
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Oh, Oh. It’s Joe Ford talking to his family afterwards. Ai gave him, $750.
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That’s right. And it took and it took sai lot of a claim. Meh. It Sai Right. It ai. It was be quiet. We’ll give you the money, but be quiet about it. Yeah. Sai, I mean, it’s all it’s all real, and it’s just
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Yeah. But just the stuff that’s undeniable is enough to make you just go, woah. What is what is happening? What is what is really going on behind the scenes?
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You know, I don’t the NBA Ultra, the testimonies from the women is really heartbreaking to watch them. The, you know, the sexual abuse that they endured for years at that, you know, the whatever that was, that lodge in the on the water near DC and just just tortured and crazy stuff.
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Operation Midnight Tyler, you know that one?
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Which one’s that?
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That’s, it happened in San Francisco where they had agents hiring prostitutes, and they’ve
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Oh, midnight climax.
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Midnight climax behind behind the two way glass. Sana.
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Nuts. Nuts. Bunch of weirdos.
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Sai tax dollars at work.
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And it’s because they had no no one was no oversight. You’re No. You have ultimate power. It’s all totally deniable.
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And it was I think it was I think it was Nixon who banned it in ’72. It might have even been ’69 before he came in. They kept doing it anyway. Same with bioweapons. They were ordered by executive order to get rid of their bioweapons, and it was found out years later, they were just stockpiling them. They still had them.
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Yeah.
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And you know they still do. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Yeah. Do you hesitate do you hesitate sometimes when you’re doing these government cover up ones?
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Yes. Yes. Yeah. I you know, I don’t wanna say I I’m because they’re dangerous.
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They are. Bigfoot’s not dangerous.
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No. Bigfoot’s not gonna hurt me.
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02:40:00
Bigfoot’s a fun
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one. It is funny. He’s UFOs are fun ones. Different dimensions. You know, we Fun stuff. Yeah. It’s it’s hard for me because I consider myself a patriot, ai, very, like, pro military, pro law enforcement, but also anti war and, you know, pro criminal justice reform. Like, I I’m a very con
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Me too.
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Politically confused.
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Yeah. Me too.
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You know, I just like fairness and
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Mhmm.
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Transparency, that sort of thing.
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You like to think that our government’s good.
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I I do like to think that, and this journey has shown me that it’s mostly not. You know, it’s really mostly not, but it’s it’s a government made of meh, and men are flawed and selfish, and men will hurt each other.
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And there’s also justifications that be made can made be made rather for doing terrible things because there’s terrible people out there, and you have to stay ahead. Always. Yeah. Don’t become a monster when you’re fighting monsters.
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That’s exactly right. And these this collateral damage is is just part of it. It’s part of it. Yeah. You know? So we give them a settlement to stay quiet, but this is for national security. Yeah. Great or good?
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What other ones have freaked you out?
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And it’s it’s hard to it’s hard to say off the top of my head. MK Ultra is a tough one. You know, I have I have covered Northwoods and and and some of those. Operation Gladio was a crazy one. That was that was where the CIA was killing civilians in right after World War two.
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Saloni Dulles I’m gonna do an episode on Alan Dulles, the Dulles brothers, their connection to the Nazis, and all of that. It’s gonna that’s gonna be a dangerous one.
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What were they doing? They were killing people for what reason?
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02:41:33
So we had to fight communism. Communism, communism. So, they trained a secret army, a civilian army in Italy to bomb civilians and then blame it on the communists. The communists at that time were the most popular party in Italy, you know, post war because they had just went through fascism, right, with muse Mussolini.
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So you just it always swings too far the other way. Right. So we swing way the other way. Communism, very popular, can’t have that. So civilians were killed in bombings by the CIA trained guerrilla army, and they were trained by a a Nazi general who was tight with Saloni Dulles and it was and this was planned during during the war.
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You know, while while American GIs were being killed fighting the Nazis, they were already planning this next phase. But, but civilians died in massacres, and they blamed it on communists. And it was denied and it died, and and eventually came out. It was called Operation Gladio.
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Gladio is a Gladius is the sword of the of the Roman soldiers.
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02:42:37
Kill the people?
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Bomb. Car bomb. Car bomb was a big one. I think it was in Milan, but there was a few.
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I think they’re just blaming the meh ai to stop communism. Because it was a it was a
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huge Italy was a lot of turmoil. I think it was called, like, the the years of lead or, like, the decades of lead, something like that. Because people were just getting killed all the time. I don’t know how many constitutions Italy’s had since World War two, but it’s it’s probably over two dozen at this point.
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You know,
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it’s a chaotic place.
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02:43:03
Wow. That’s my people.
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02:43:06
It’s my people too.
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02:43:07
We’re goofy. What about the Shah structure?
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You know, people ask me about that, the Ai. I usually I usually say, you know what? Go to Corsetti. Go to Ai Insight. Go to Randall Carlson.
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02:43:23
Corsetti is the mode. Vatsal Carlson doesn’t believe that that was Atlantis. Right. Corsetti makes a very compelling case. Mountains to the North, river to the to the South. The circular and
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the concentric rings.
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The concentric rings to the correct size.
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02:43:37
Yep. The
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fact that there’s still salt on the ground there.
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02:43:39
I wanna believe it. Yeah. You know?
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02:43:41
I And then there’s, like, when you pull back and you get the satellite image of the surface, and it looks like it was just completely deluged.
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It does. Yeah. Well, we know for a fact it was deluged.
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02:43:53
Yeah.
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It just it doesn’t line up with Atlantis. I mean I mean, Carlson has shown us that how the surface of the of Africa was just altered
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Yeah.
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By by, you know, by the flood. So it all lines up, but there’s all these leaps that we have to make. I enjoy making them.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, I on my show, I try to let people know, look. I connected some dots here. Mhmm. You know? Ai had to fill in some gaps with a little bit of creative license. But if you’re interested, go pursue it. Go learn more. I want that to be Atlantis.
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02:44:26
Yeah. It seems like Atlantis was a real place Because, you know, once they found out that Troy was a real place, Troy was also dismissed. Right?
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02:44:33
Yes. It was.
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They found out no. Troy actually existed. And it doesn’t seem like any of those stories were bullshit. It seems like they were historical accounts. And the thing about Plato’s writings about Atlantis, he talks about it having existed nine hundred years prior, which lines up perfectly with the younger Dryas.
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Right. And he learned it from an Egyptian priest who learned it from someone else. Mhmm. So the story goes back beyond Plato, if if you believe Plato, which you can’t believe Plato.
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02:45:03
Well, he was ai about a lot of things. Mhmm. And it’s just it’s so fascinating when we think of, like, that kind of historical record keeping that you’re getting these depictions of what kind of a civilization existed thousands and thousands of years ago.
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02:45:18
Right. So what you know, with Homer’s Iliad, what did they think he was writing about? A fictional place? I mean, that was this that was this
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I said I think I said nine hundred years. I ai nine thousand years. Nine thousand ai. Meh. Which is, like, first of all, like, how do you get nine thousand years of history 2,000 ago? Like, what are you even getting?
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Yeah.
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Like, what how are these stories? How are they documented? Like, how do they pass them? How do they pass them sana? Like, who who are the original people? Like, what what’s the actual version of the story? Like, which one is more accurate? Epic of Gilgamesh? Noah’s Ark? Which would ai, something seems to exist in almost every ancient civilization.
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They all have a flood myth. Yeah. And, you know, Gilgamesh and and Noah’s Ark sounds very they’re very similar stories.
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02:46:06
Mhmm.
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And there there are other cultures that have a Noah’s Ark story.
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02:46:10
Yeah. Yeah. That’s that’s my favorite currently. I’ve seen, like, a a ton of videos, and Ai think Jimmy Corsetti does the best job about the Reichardt structure. But he’s all in on it. Yes. And I think, like, it doesn’t look natural.
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No. It doesn’t.
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It doesn’t. It looks like exact and it it’s it’s ai what a coincidence that it matches the dimensions of Atlantis as ai?
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And it’s in the right place. Sai, you know, when people argue for Bimini Bimini being Atlantis, it’s like, meh. They didn’t know what any of that was, but they knew what North Africa was.
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02:46:44
Right. And, also, it’s so close to Egypt. It’s so close to what we already know was a super advanced civilization that existed.
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There’s been no excavations of that? I don’t believe so.
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02:46:57
Of the Shah Structure? Yeah.
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I’m reading all about it.
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02:46:59
What what have they done? Like, deep?
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Nineteen seventy four was discovered. They found artifacts. Looking right now, that’s what I was about to show you. Some this isn’t a great example, but there’s other this isn’t it. Another eye that looks similar to it in the same area. Interesting. This ai and then the comments say that there’s even two or three of these. Woah. And I was reading, Steven Novella’s breakdown of Jimmy’s video.
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02:47:24
He says he’s leaving out some known vatsal. Like, there was a canal that connected each of those circles that isn’t apparent in the reshot structure. But those are the things I was just getting at right now.
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02:47:38
But this looks like canals.
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Well, that’s a different This isn’t the reshot structure.
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02:47:42
Right. Right. Show the reshot structure.
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And the reshot structure is strange because the coloration is different than the rest of the,
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02:47:47
Mhmm. That was also the depictions of the colors of the rocks is the same. Red and black. Yeah. Like, that is fucking crazy. That’s crazy. It is. And there were
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the one guy who found artifacts said there was there was some stuff, like, out here on the outer circles, but not very many inside.
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02:48:04
Well, how the the question is, like, how big was the catastrophe and how much would be left, and what would you actually see? You know, like, how much was the structure altered by whatever the fuck happened?
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02:48:16
Right. So when we talk about ancient advanced civilizations, we’re not talking about more advanced than us. We just mean advanced.
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Right.
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So people will sai, well, where’s their plastic? Where’s their
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02:48:27
Yeah. But it has it doesn’t have to be
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the same
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ai of advance. It doesn’t. Combustion engines, all the different things that we’ve done, electronics, like, we’re just assuming that technology always goes in the exact same path. But it’s whatever the fuck they were doing, we know whatever we know they were doing in Egypt was extraordinary with in terms of, like, their ability to core the drills, extraordinary with in terms of, like, their ability to core the drills.
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02:48:48
When they have these cores that they like, high speed drills that seem to be, like, if not diamond tipped, something of a similar vein that allowed them to dig into that fucking granite like that. Like
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02:49:00
Right. How do they generate the 2,000 RPMs or whatever?
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Right.
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02:49:03
How could they do that?
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02:49:04
Yeah. It’s all freaky, man. It’s ai the history I mean, Graham has the best depiction. He sai, we are speak with amnesia.
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That’s the perfect way to say it. You know, it’s a shame that he’s marginalized, but I like that Netflix has stuck by him and Yeah. Keep pumping those out.
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Well, the facts are the facts. You know, just the the structures that he’s uncovering when you you’re looking at Gunung Padang, when you’re looking at all these different places, when you look at, you know, just Machu Picchu, all these different places, like, what the fuck was going on?
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Like, why is this stuff so complex? Why is it so fascinating?
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And why aren’t we allowed to ask? Why aren’t we allowed to investigate it? Yeah. Remember meh at one when, his ancient apocalypse season one came out, there was a British newspaper sai Graham Hancock is the most dangerous man in
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02:49:51
the world
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because of the
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white Ai has a just dumbasses. Well, they always sana connect it to white supremacy, which is so crazy because Graham Hancock is the furthest from a white supremacist. You know? He’s married to a woman of color. He’s ai he’s like the sweetest, nicest guy. He’s a vegan.
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Of course. He’s like He never said they’re they were white folks? No.
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He said no one says that. And who cares?
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I just wanna know who they were.
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Well, they couldn’t be white folks because white folks don’t live there. No. Like, if they’re Egyptians, they’re Africans. Right. The Africans were the most sophisticated civilization that we have ever seen that existed at that point in time. We don’t know if they’re as sophisticated as we are, but within we know they did some stuff back then that we’re not capable of today. Yes. And that’s real.
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It is. And we don’t know how. We don’t know what technology they had. But here’s the thing, if it’s not from February BC, but it’s really from 30,000 BC, what do you think would be left? Like, only maybe the stone.
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That would be it.
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That’s prob that’s part of the problem. I mean Steel, any kind of Gone. Gone.
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It would only take a hundred years for Manhattan to be covered by vegetation.
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Right.
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A thousand years, the the skyscrapers would crumble.
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Right.
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Ten thousand years, it’ll all be washed away.
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Right. A hundred thousand years, you’re not gonna see jack shit.
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Nothing.
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Nothing. Yeah. Who’s that, British archaeologist that we brought up the other day, Jamie, with the, where he has this, like, really good point that human beings have been in essentially the same form for the last three hundred thousand years. Like, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that we have achieved very high levels of sophistication multiple times and have been knocked back down to the stone age again Sure.
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By cataclysmic events.
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Right. And that makes a lot of sense to me that it’s just part of a cycle. Yeah. You know, the doomsday clock is it’s kind of a real thing is that you just get to a level of technology where you just are too dangerous for your own good. We’re not sophisticated enough for nuclear weapons. We’re not smart enough to have those.
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No. Well, that’s the hope is that that’s what the aliens are here for, to go, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.
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Ai? Because because they have. Yeah. Put them down. Why did they allow just The United States to detonate 60 something bombs?
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And Well, here’s the thing. Two of them that caused mass death. Right? Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But that’s also when the UFO starts showing up in mass, you know. And, you know, I have this comedy club called the Comedy Mothership, and the rooms are named Fat Man and Little Boy.
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Okay.
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And the reason why is because in UFO folklore, after those bombs were dropped, that’s when the mother shah started showing up.
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Right. Yeah. And in some tests, you can see stuff in the sky in the films. I think you could see something at Castle Bravo. Could be wrong, but there are some tests where you can see stuff in the sky. Like, what what was that for a few frames? Like, they were keeping an eye on I hope they are.
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Yeah. That would be nice. Yeah. Please. That’d be nice. Well, listen, AJ, I love your fucking show. You ai me with hours and hours of entertainment. It’s an awesome program. You do a really good job. It’s really well done. I don’t know who’s doing it with you and how you promote how you produce it, but you you guys fucking kill it.
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Thanks, man. Great team.
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It’s a great show. The Ai Files, it’s available on YouTube. 4,730,000 subscribers, so I’m not alone. And you guys have only been around for how many years now?
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Two, twenty twenty.
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That’s amazing. Five years in your arya, you have almost 5,000,000 subscribers.
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CIA is just backing me up.
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It’s a great fucking show. That’s what it is. So, I’m glad we finally did this.
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Appreciate it.
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Very much, man. And if you ever got anything crazy, you wanna break it here, we’re ready for you. If you got an episode coming out you want everybody to know about, come on back. I think we probably do this a hundred times. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Alright. Bye, everybody.
