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Guy Fieri is a restaurateur, bestselling author, vintner, philanthropist, and award-winning host of multiple television programs, including “Diners, Drive-ins, & Dives, ” “Guy’s Grocery Games,” and “Guy’s Ranch Kitchen.” www.guyfieri.com
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#2323 – Guy Fieri Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the conversation spans a variety of topics, with a focus on the influence of technology, particularly AI, and the importance of positivity and critical thinking. The speakers discuss the potential of AI to create realistic simulations of conversations, even with people like Steve Jobs, whom they have never met. This raises concerns about the authenticity of media and the potential for misinformation.
The episode also touches on the importance of focusing on positive aspects of life and reducing the spread of negativity. The speakers emphasize the need for individuals to accentuate positivity in their lives and be a positive influence on others. This theme is reinforced by anecdotes about personal experiences and the impact of positive messaging during challenging times, such as the COVID-19 pandemic.
Guy Fieri, a notable guest, shares insights from his career in the food industry, highlighting the importance of real food and the responsibility to promote healthy eating habits. He discusses his journey in the restaurant business and his experiences hosting shows like “Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives,” which celebrate authentic culinary stories and the people behind them.
Actionable insights from the episode include the encouragement to focus on personal growth, critical thinking, and maintaining a balance between indulgence and healthy living. The speakers advocate for tuning out negativity and misinformation, instead promoting a mindset of learning and self-awareness.
Overall, the episode conveys a message of positivity, the power of technology, and the importance of authenticity and responsibility in media and personal interactions.
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#2323 – Guy Fieri Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Knuckle Sandwich is a sandwich shop in Austin.
It’s legit. My pilot my pilot calls me and says, you
know, someone’s got your brand out there. I’m like, what’s it called? He goes Knuckle Sandwich. I’m like, go figure.
Well But I ai it’s fair. Good stuff. Yeah. It’s real good. It’ll some people will start what’s that?
We smoke it out? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you wanna do. So that Just don’t shoot heroin on camera.
I think we’re gonna be able to pass that.
So what’s happening, man? How are you? Well, here we go. I got one. Thanks.
I, really appreciate the invite. My pleasure. This is, this is long time coming. I’ve been waiting for this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, especially all the influence you’ve had and things you’ve done, and I know the funny side of it. I know the UFC side of you, But watching the podcast and seeing all the characters, and I was just watching the Bill Murray, interview the other day.
And I just look at it and I go, meh, to hear those stories talking about Hunter and just all that and all the I mean, it’s just it’s pretty, you you gotta have your mind blown by now.
Yeah. My mind’s been blown out. It’s kinda overblown at this point. It’s huge. Yeah.
I mean, I think about what you did with Trump and all that influence that you made, and you you call it straight up the line. You wanna come on the show? You wanna do this? Let’s do it. And took the time to do it. I think it was a huge impact.
I think that we look at all the people that you’ve given a chance. You’ve given them a platform. And I think that’s really it’s fair of you. And the way you interview, the way I see it from, you know, doing a few interviews, you let people talk, you let them speak their peace, you continue to help them through not getting stuck on one thing.
You navigate them pretty well. And it’s really I mean, it’s ram a guy that’s, you know, in the business not to this level, but got to the business. It’s it’s respectful, man.
Thank you. Thank you very much. What is knuckle sandwich based? You even have a your chain is a knuckle sandwich, Chip.
What It’s all it’s all has history. Just kinda like as I toured the museum today.
Chef’s hat with a a skull.
Started with that tattoo. It’s one of the first tattoos I ever had. The culinary gangster. So my buddy, Joe Leonard, monkey wrench tattoo, great friend of mine, did my first tattoo. And he made that. He says, I have this drawing for you. I wanna show this to you. And that’s pretty, you know, skull and chef. Alright. Let me check it out.
So I don’t put a tattoo on until he draws it on first. I have to have it on for a while. Like, I have to look at it for a couple days, like, guy, does this resonate with me? So that’s how it started. This arya way before TV, way before any of this. And, when I got on TV, when I got on Food Network, they’re gonna send me my first paycheck.
You wouldn’t believe how much I made that first episode. I mean, just huge money. $1,250 in an episode. You know when you get started. And I wasn’t planning on TV. But anyhow, I came back and had all my buddies around my table. My house was kinda like a soup kitchen.
All my buddies, you know, come by ai someone will bring, you know, ai, someone will bring some speak, whatever. And, so I’m sitting there with all my buddies and said, hey. I gotta think of a name for my TV, like, my other business ai my restaurant business had a business partner and I didn’t want the checks to come to the business.
So I said, what do you what do you think? Ai one buddy, Dirty, says my nickname is Guido. Says, Guido. He says, how about you make us something to eat? And that’ll give us, like, some food for knowledge. And then, and I sai, you know, and I’m serious.
I wanna come up with a name for the company. I gotta get this I gotta get my $1,200 check sent to me. And I go, hey, dirty. How about I give you a knuckle sandwich? And he goes, vatsal be a good name.
That was it. And it was it was originally that. It was originally a a a sandwich with a with a ring on it and a sandwich made out of money, and that was knuckle sandwich. And then it just kind of all evolved from there. And so all my companies go into the brand of knuckle sandwich, but I never put a product of wine or tequila or anything I ever did.
And when we started making these cigars and this guy that I’m partners with is such a such a guru, guy named Eric Espinosa. And, we sat there and talked about it, and I have another brand called Flavortown. Like, Flavortown is too whimsical and too you know? It’s gotta be something.
I didn’t wanna call Guy Fieri. You know, I didn’t wanna have my name on it. I don’t wanna do stuff that, like, buy this because it’s my, you know, it’s my name. I just wanna do something, you know, and we all thought about it. We said, cigars are that good, and he’s such a badass. It’s called Knuckle Sandwich.
Did you have any idea in the beginning of your career of being a TV guy? Like, how did how did all that stuff start? Because it’s a weird world, you know. I had a conversation with Jose Andres about this. Sai was like ai. The the the emergence of the celebrity chef is ai fair I mean, it used to be like Julia Child, like, way way back in the day.
Yeah. Yeah. And then, I guess, there’s a few other people, but they they never were, like, cultural figures. I guess Julia Child was. She was probably the only
she was really it. Right?
Yeah. That was PBS. You know? That was PBS. That wasn’t people really blowing it up. I mean, I watched it because I loved that I was in love with food as at a young age. I mean, I was just was one, because I didn’t really experience and ai exactly what my parents are feeding me. My parents are really good cooks.
They weren’t in the cooking business. But, but, yeah, this whole food thing, I had before I got on Food Network, I had never watched the Food Network. And not because I don’t believe in it. I mean, food’s my epicenter of what I do. But the last thing I was gonna do, working seven days a week, twelve, thirteen, fifteen hours a day in the restaurant Come home and watch more food.
Is go and watch somebody make me, you know, a pot pie. I’m like Right. I got enough. Plus, I also didn’t really have a true understanding of what was going on. Knew who Emeril was.
Well, here’s another one. Remember when he had the sitcom? Where he his his ai, bam. Like, they decided to try to put that into a sitcom.
We just had that conversation the other day? Yeah. We just had that conversation, but Emerald’s the OG. Sai give such appreciation and accolades to everybody that did it before me. There were so many people that helped pave the way in one style of another. And some in TV, some literary, some, you know, just living the you know, keeping the energy of the industry alive.
Because if you’re not from the industry, you don’t quite exactly get what it is. But it’s a pretty, it’s like understanding UFC.
know? The bigger fan you become of something, the more you start looking at it and just going, it is so much more than what you’re watching in the ring for the, you know, next twenty minutes. It’s really deep, and there’s so much more, and there’s so much such as lifestyle, it’s attitude, it’s energy, it’s connectivity, it’s family, it’s community, it’s all that kind of stuff and so.
So did you, like, how how does one go from being a chef to being a TV chef? Like, what was it about? Did you just get an audition? Like, did they contact a bunch of chefs? Like, who’s got the wackiest hair? And who looks like they would be good on TV? Like, how do they how do they figure something like that out?
This is about the most whack story in the world. So alright. So never graduated high school. Dropped out of high school when I was 16. Went to France. I was an exchange student. I’m gonna give you a little bit more of the backstory than you probably want, but I’ll give you Ai it to me.
I’ll kinda give you the the, you know, the the quick version. So when I got when I came back from France, I was supposed to go to my senior year in high school, and I wasn’t really super interested in going back to high school. I just lived in France in a boarding house and went to high school, and I didn’t even speak French.
But my parents were really open minded, and I’d saved my money. And they said, if you can pass a year of French at the junior college at 16, and you can pass the class, and you can figure it out, I guess. So I went and lived in a boarding house and went to high school. Came back my senior year, I just was not interested in going back to high school.
So I went to junior college, finished junior college, went to UNLV, got my degree, graduated a little bit early, and went and ran restaurants for other people. And then and I was 26, moved back to the wine country up to Northern California where I’m ram, opened my first restaurant.
Had a bunch of restaurants with a buddy. Things were great. Did exactly what I ai do. I wanna be, you know, have great ai, I wanna be a great dad, Ai wanna have my own restaurant. That’s all I wanted.
Not that I was ai and stuff, like, big big community person, wanted to do a lot of, you know, community service and so forth. My parents were that way. So that was it, man. I had, like, three restaurants. I owned a couple hot rods. I bought my own house. I was living it. You know?
And a bunch of friends came up to me. Actually, a kid across the street came and sai, you watch Food Network? I said, no. So we have a show on there called the Food Network Star. You should go on that show. I ai even seen Food Network. I saw Rachel Ray one time.
I was at a bar. I saw Rachel Ray on screen, and I’m like, that girl has got energy. I mean, listen to her and she could talk food. She did she doesn’t know her shit. So that was whatever. About sai, eight months later, my wife’s driving home from the city.
She says, hey, I was just listening to the radio station. They had that Food Network shah show going on because you’d be great in that. How do you know? You know what I’m seeing the shah? She’s, no, they’re just talking about it ai, you know, the culinary challenges and all the things.
And then if you do it, you sana show. Ai, I wanna show for. You know? Doing what? Ai not been on TV.
I made my own TV commercials for my restaurant. That was the only thing I ever did that was TV.
So none of it was appealing when they contacted you and they asked you
I wouldn’t say it wasn’t appealing. It just wasn’t in my scope.
Right. You know, it wasn’t It wasn’t in your plans.
It wasn’t like something I was seeking. You know, we had talked about it. There there have been many people who had come to me before and said like, my buddy that was the was the marketing manager for Flowmaster. Remember Flowmasters? The mufflers? Oh, yeah. Okay. Hot mufflers. Yeah. Sure. So he came to me and sai, you should do a hot rod show. You love hot rods?
Let’s do a hot rod show. What the I mean, I know enough to be dangerous, you know, about hot rods. I mean, I know just enough to get into the conversation where I bury myself. And, so there was vatsal. And sai, anyhow, the show they say make a make a three minute pitch. So all my buddies are like, you know, gotta make the pitch. Gotta do the thing.
Gotta do the thing. Gotta do the thing. And I avoided it any way I could. And to the point where it had expired, like, the entry time it expired. So my buddy my buddy named Mustard, he’s on we’re on a barbecue team together. We did competition barbecue and all kinds of crazy shit.
And he says, do you ever send that demo tape into the Food Network? And I said, no. I just missed that window. And he goes, good. I thought you’re gonna say that. He says, because they opened it back up. There’s another week. He says, let’s go make that. I’m like, I don’t wanna do this.
He’s like, don’t be you know, you always push every you know, this is the truth because I push all my friends and, like, open your own business. Go on that vacation. Have kids. You know, I’m always the one that’s got a you know, go live your best life. And, so I gotta walk my talk.
Last thing I wanted to do, Joe, honestly, is go on TV And because I never went to culinary school. You know, I just been cooking through my you know, that was my career and it’s what I did as passion and living in France.
You open up a restaurant without ever going to culinary school? No. Is that unusual?
I think it’s probably sixty forty.
Oh, really? Yeah. Sixty forty that go to school or
That’s a lot that don’t, though.
I could really be off on that. When I do Diners, Drive ins and Dives, 60% don’t go. A lot of the mom and pops. And that doesn’t mean that they don’t learn. I mean, some of the best chefs I know haven’t been to culinary school and just are super smart at learning and dig in.
Lot of education, lot of research, lot of trial and error, lot of lot of putting yourself out there. You gotta be willing to fail. Like, I don’t really think you’d be a good cook if you’re not willing to fail. I mean, if you’re just if you stay in your lane so much, I I I just think that you get better chances to well, let’s think about fighting.
You know, think about things you’ve learned, all the education in martial arts and boxing and all these different perspectives that people take to to be in it. It’s usually the one that has a pretty good, you know, narrow focus on something ai really, really love, but then having that outside perspective.
So for me as a chef, having the ability to understand Indian food, you know, there’s such a depth there that I’ll never hit the bottom. You’ll never touch all the opportunities that there are. But, anyhow, so back to that, I I made the demo tape, and I made it so ridiculous that there’s no way.
There’s just no way they were gonna pick me.
What did you do on the demo tape? Do you have it?
Do you guy I think you can find it online. It.
Or put the headphones on.
I can’t believe I just told you to look at the Oh, you guys already have them. Go, Terry. You set me up.
Did you really get that fast?
Jamie, you just pulled it up.
Jamie, you pulled up that fast. Listen, Jamie.
Welcome to Sonoma County, California, home of true wine country cuisine. Today, I’m gonna prepare a dish for you, not in not infusion, but in confusion. I’m gonna do a Gorgonzola tofu sausage terrine that we served over a mildly poached ostrich egg. Now since we’re in the wine country, I’ll be serving that on on Grape Nuts and done with a delicious pickled herring mousse right on top.
And, oh, I know delicious. It sends shivers up my spine. No. Seriously, folks. Real food for real people. That’s the idea. See, it’s all getting messed up.
People are trying to take everything off the shelf and jam it onto a plate, and that’s not what it has to be. I learned how to cook out of survival. My parents are going through this macrobiotic cooking in the late seventies, and I had enough bulgur and steamed fish to kill a kid.
So the idea in our family was whoever made the dinner got to decide what it was gonna be. And being of Italian descent, pasta was always one of the keys. I went and studied in France and then came back and got my degree at University of Nevada Sai Vegas restaurant administration.
Been a district manager in Los Angeles and moved up here to Northern California to open up three different concept restaurants. What I’d like to talk to you about and what I think I could do as a Food Network host is teach people about real food, real people. Get it to the basics. Great product, great equipment, great ideas. See, anybody can read a cookbook.
Anybody can come up with a simple ai, but the idea is bringing it to the table. I take people’s imaginations and put them on the plate. Let me show you one of my favorite.
back from Houston where I was down there
learning about ram food. Go through this.
take southern style barbecue and mix it into Japanese cooking. See, in Japanese, sushi does not mean raw fish,
and that’s what people think
it does. It means seasoned rice. So I take a little bit of seasoned rice, a little bit of smoked pork butt, and we put this together here in a dish with a little of our American favorite, French fries, and mix this together with a little bit of the California favorite, some avocado.
And I came up with this idea. And as I was doing this, a buddy came around the corner and he says, Guido, what are you doing? He says, you can’t put that into rice. You can’t make sushi out of barbecue. What are you doing, you jackass? And that’s what this dish is called.
It’s actually called the jackass roll. So we mix it up. We serve it over. The idea about cooking is not just about great food. It’s about putting all the pieces. Do you have a sharp knife? Do you understand sanitation?
Do you know where to get it from?
And do you know how to tie all the components together? You see, my idea about it is is there’s so much more to teach. As a restaurateur, people ask me all the time, how do you do it? I can take the restaurant and bring it to the home, and I think that would be something that would be sellable. My name’s Guy Fieri.
My friends call me Guido. You can now consider me your friend.
Why did you think that would be ridiculous? That seems pretty straightforward.
What’s the matter, Jamie? It’s fucking up. Oh, your switch is fucking up again?
this thing off the screen.
You gotta reboot again? Go ahead. Reboot. Sorry. No worries. No.
Okay. Okay. Okay. That seems pretty straightforward. I don’t know why you would think that that would somehow or another, like, that I was no one’s gonna pick you.
I was taking it seriously. I wasn’t taking it seriously. Yeah. Of course. The whole beginning line was such a
cool TV personality. That’s ai
Yeah. I listen. I had one I didn’t sana take. That was it. Here we go. You guys happy? Shit’s done. I don’t
know why you would think that that would be something they would never pick you from.
Well, I didn’t know back then what I know about TV now. So Oh,
you thought you had to be, like, super professional. Ai
thought if I talk some shit and I got to made it a joke and I told them what are they doing, you know, I thought, like, hey. I’ll be so you know? I mean, that is pretty true to who I am anyway. What year was that? 02/2005. Yeah. 02/02 yeah. ‘2 we shot in 02/2005. Yeah.
02/2005. First showed an air till 02/2006. But, yeah. So I sana it to him, and I sana it on a DVD because my buddy that filmed it worked at the TV station, and he put it he burned it from the camera and put on DVD. Back in
So I sent it in. That’s it. I did my deal. I said I would do it. I did it. So it gets in. What, three days later? Late at ai, 10:00 at night. Lori and I are sitting my wife and I are sitting on the couch watching TV. Home phone rings. She goes, no. She’s from Rhode Island. She’s from North Providence, so she’s a little bit tough on the phone at ten a at 10PM. You know? Like, who’s calling at 10PM? No.
I don’t know where he is. No. He’s not here. I’ll take a message. No. Yes. No. She finally covers the phone. She goes, it’s a Food Network. Bullshit.
Food Network. It’s one of my buddies being a jerk off. So I pick up the phone. I go, hello, Food Network. Blah blah blah. Yeah.
And they said, is this guy Ferrari? And I’m like, okay. Because I know it’s not. Because it was one of my ai. They would have said, you know, Fieri.
So she goes, yeah. We got your DVD, and we’d we’d like to talk to you about it. We want you to be on the show. I said, okay. What does that entail? Well, there’s a contract that’ll be on your door tomorrow morning. Morning. We FedExed it to you.
So I get to FedEx and, I look at it and I give it to one of my attorney buddies like, man, they own your ass. If you sign this, I can own you. So he redlined a bunch and I sent it back to him. They called me back, and they said, you can’t redline the contract that we’re sending you.
This is ai, you want on the show or you don’t want on the show.
What is it ai when you say they own you? Like, what do you mean?
Oh, he says, you know how a contract goes when you get into TV. I mean, there’s like, you you know, we’ve got you for thirty six months. You can’t do any other production. You know, whatever this
I don’t know. Then don’t quote me on any of it. All I know
I had never signed an entertainment contract at that point.
Yeah. So A lot of them are pretty predatory. They take advantage of the person that doesn’t have any exposure. If you’re gonna become a star, they wanna profit massively off it. And
So that’s where it kind of my guy said to me because, yeah, you have your own restaurants. You’re doing your own thing. What are you doing? What are you getting on TV
And sai long story short, I went Lori and I were pregnant eight and a half months. Eight and a
half months. You were pregnant too?
Yeah. Well, that’s what I call it. I I held the baby weight. But we were, you know, we’re pregnant. We got the kid coming. We Hunter was four. No. Hunter was
Did you name after Hunter Thompson?
Yes. I did. Did you know that, or arya you just saying that?
Oh, that’s a %. I was I because I saw the Hunter Thompson in the hallway, and I saw the Bill Murray interview. I read Fear and Loathing Sai Vegas. I don’t read a lot, but I read that book probably five times. It’s a great book. Such a great book. And when I got out of college, I lived in a town. I didn’t know anybody. I lived in Long Beach. I didn’t know anybody.
I just worked at this restaurant. And I’m not a big TV person, so I just read the book. And I read the I read it in college and I read it again and I read it again. And it’s funny when you read something again I got that from the Dale Carnegie book. I read Dale Carnegie and, you know, you have to read it a hundred times or how many times. I ai like, man, this guy owns it.
This guy lives it. This guy just you know, what a character. Yeah. And then the more you I read about him and the more you kinda learn about him. And so I told my wife. So we have Hunter and Ryder. Ryder’s a freshman in San Diego State. Hunter just graduated with his MBA at, University of Miami.
So that’s where Hunter came from.
Yeah. Thank you. And my ai, Jules, who’s in the middle of the two. We raised Jules. My sister died, when Jules was really young. And so Jules just is graduating this Sunday with his degree, from Loyola in law. Oh, wow. He’s in he’s in, EDM music. He’s an agent.
So so anyhow, I I got on the show. I got there. Everybody’s standing there buttoned up in their chef coats. I walk in and I’m in I’m in New York. I’ve never been to New York. I’m in flip flops and shorts and a yellow leather jacket, and I walk in and everybody’s ai, you know, all puckered. And I’m like, oh, fuck.
This is not gonna go well. This is gonna be a shit show. And I just said, you know what? You gotta give it a shot. So I just went in. I was just meh. Did what I do. I won. So I won the show.
And what this show what you win is a six episode cooking show, which they ran at 7AM on Saturdays. I mean, it was the worst time slot in the world. But they gave me the show, and I did good. And they gave me another shah, and I did the shah, and I hated it. I did the pilot, and I hated it. And I’m like, I can’t do this.
It’s called Gotta Get It. I don’t think you’re gonna find it. You’re not gonna find this. You’ll find it. No. Jesus, please. I don’t think and it was never aired. So what it ai, it was a show find it. It was a show about it was a show about, kitchen gadgets. And I’m not a kitchen gadget chef.
Oh, so it’s ai you gotta get one of these Cuisinarts.
It wasn’t even that good. I mean, it was like avocado slicer. Like, if you can’t slice sai avocado, don’t eat it. I mean, you got a problem. But it was there
There was a oven that talked Bluetooth to your phone, and that was way before Bluetooth stuff was really going on. There was a two stroke, weed eater mower with a blender on it, and that was the coolest one. I made margaritas in vatsal. And sai, ai but they the one they gave me that sucked the worst or the one that I wasn’t and exact was they gave me a ball, like a hamster ball.
Remember the hamster balls? You put the hamster and run around the house? But you’d pour cream and vanilla and sugar and all this in a ball and then throw ice cubes in it, and then you would roll the ball around, kick it around, and it would roll and it would make ice cream.
Okay. Yeah. Kind of fun. Yeah.
So ai for a guy that has a sushi barbecue restaurant and, you know Yeah.
How long does it take to make ice cream by kicking a ball?
I was thinking I was thinking that’s fun, but then I thought, no. How much time?
Go kick it when you’re in
So I did the whole thing, and they called me a couple, you know, weeks later, and they said, hey. Congratulations. The show got picked up for 13 episodes, prime time. Ai god. I gotta Ai gotta be honest with you. I’m not gonna be able to do that show. Like, what? Like, no. I I just it’s not.
So it went through a series of people, ai, executive and executive from production company, the owner of the production company, yelling at me, telling me wasted on some time and his money. I said, hey. Nobody told me that if this got picked up, I had to go do the show. I thought it was a discovery for you, a discovery for me.
I don’t I don’t know shit from speak sauce about what’s going how this all works, which I quickly turned that. I was not gonna be inside of the TV business and not be really aware of what goes on. So, finally, the president of the network called me and she said, you’re burning a huge opportunity. Brooke Johnson, you’re burning a huge opportunity.
I said, Brooke, it’s all about to me about authenticity. I said, I don’t need the paycheck, and I don’t need I said, I’m happy with my life. I love what I do. I like my cooking show called Ai Big Bite. You know? I cook food the way I want. Call it what I wanna call it.
Make it the way I wanna make it. And I said, I just don’t me and gadgets for cooking is just not a thing. Sai said, well, ai might not ever get a shot like this again. I said, I really appreciate the opportunity, and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but I just don’t wanna do it. And she said, okay. And that was it.
And but fortunately, six months later, she they called me back and said, we’re gonna give you one more shot. You’re gonna be a food critic. I said, nope. Thank you. Like, hold on. Hold on. Why not? I said, I’m not a food critic. I’m a cook.
Last thing I’m gonna do is go in and tell people they’re doing it right and wrong. That’s like someone going and telling somebody they don’t like their their arya wrong. Bullshit. That’s not my style. So they said, well, okay. It’s not that. It’s not that.
You go around. This was the keyword, you go around to mom and pop joints, and you just eat the food and talk to the people. My god, I can do. That’s my style. I said, what’s it called? Ai, Drivers, Ai ins, and Dines. I I said, what? They couldn’t get the name right.
No one ever gets Diners, Ram Ins, and Dines right. That’s ai we call it triple d all the time. I sai, I could do that. I could do that. That sounds like dives. I love dives. I don’t know a lot about Ai because we don’t have many of them on the West Coast. And drive ins, I love.
That was always special to me to go to the A And W Drive in when I was a kid. Like, we didn’t eat fast food when I was a kid. So when you went there, that was, like, big, big deal. Yeah. And, that’s how I got going.
Wow. Interesting. Yeah. It seems like it’s hard to find because once they started making personalities out of chefs, then you have to find authentic personalities who are good on TV that are actually cooks. So it’s kind of a little bit of a dilemma because chefs aren’t necessarily the kind of people that you wanna have in front of the camera for the most part.
I deal with a lot of them.
I think that everybody when you get people comfortable as, you know, you get people comfortable, you get them talking about themselves, you get them in a zone where they feel good and they relax. It’s very it’s what you do here. I meh, I watch it’s people have a gift of storytelling or have history, and what can people talk best about themselves or their history or their passion.
And that’s what I did with Triple d, is I just went in. I remember the first one we ever shot. I’m standing there talking to the guy about the thing, and I’m pouring coffee behind my back. People are bitching at the counter because we’re in right in the middle of an active service in the diner.
And I’m pouring coffee and pancakes burning, and I ai the guy’s pancake. And I’m like, so how how long have you been making the you know? Yeah. Hang on a second. He needs an order back, you know? And I asked all my questions I was supposed to ask.
And the producer at the end goes, cut, cut, cut, cut. So what come here.
So what the hell was that?
I said, slow your roll, bro. I said, I asked every question you asked me to ask. I sai, I didn’t stand and do it like PM Magazine. You know, I was in the mix with the dude, but I asked all the goddamn questions. And he’s like, can you do that again? I said, I have to stand out of my head. This is what we do in the restaurant business.
I said, we work and we talk and we joke and we laugh and we bust balls and we do you know, that’s what we do. He throws his clipboard on the ground. We’ve got a hit. And then we went around the country for the next three weeks and shot more locations and put that together into the pitch.
So I don’t understand. Was he pretending to be upset, or was he upset until you explained
it to him? He was a kind of an upset guy.
That’s the problem with TV, dealing with upset people.
Well and the thing is is if especially people that don’t understand TV. So when I started Triple d, I just treated my fellow chefs, restaurant owners, like we were in the kitchen. Have fun. I tell them all the time. I want you to say whatever you wanna say. You wanna drop 50 f bombs.
If you cut yourself, if you drop thing on the floor, if you shah, goddamn it. It’s not right. Don’t worry. We’ll stop, we’ll fix it, and we’ll go forward. But I’m never gonna make you look bad. I promise you that I’ll never make you look bad. You’ll look great. Sometimes we stop, I go, hold up.
Let’s hold up. Let’s hold up. What do you drink? Jack. Can we get him a shot of Jack, please?
You know, we’ll sit there and shoot the shit about his favorite team or talk about his I always start talking about people’s family right off the bat. Talk about family ai puts people on the same playing field. Not a game. It’s ai.
No. I understand. I get it. Well, that sounds like a fun thing to just drive around and go to people’s restaurants and see how they do things and see the history behind it and what was their ram. How satisfying is it to have this place and
feed all these people. Meet the people that are just Ai mean, bring tears to your eyes. There’s so many stories, so many we’ve done, like, almost 1,600 locations, And it’s just mind blowing to be in the restaurant business and to watch these people, what they put into it, and how many sacrifices they’ve made and then how many success stories we hear.
And it’s just it is probably one of the most fulfilling things I’ve ever done in my life. You know, it’s really I would have been done by now had it not I mean, a matter of fact, when we first started the show, I thought, oh, this would be fun to do it for a couple of years.
I’ll probably run out of places As of this show could live on forever. How many
years you’ve been doing it now? Sixteen. Sixteen years. That’s crazy. Yeah. That’s crazy.
But it does some great things for them.
I’m sure it’s great for their businesses. Right?
We’re shooting right now. We’re shooting downtown right now. In Austin? Yeah. We just shot this morning. Where’d you shoot? Shot a place called the, Bolden Creek Cafe vegan joint. And I shouldn’t even say it like that. I should just say Bolden Creek Cafe, an awesome restaurant.
No. You should say vegan. You should let everybody know.
Well, I sai but here’s the thing. I I think when I say vegan, people ai, oh, so you ai gotta give them their shot.
No? I wasn’t thinking that. I was just thinking, you know, I have some vegan friends that if they only sana eat a vegan restaurant, I would take them there.
It’s so good. I just go eat there as it is. And that’s what I when I interview people at vegan restaurants or vegetarian restaurants, I’ll say, do your non vegan vegetarian friends come here? Or I’ll ask people. Usually, 50% of them that I’m talking to aren’t vegan. They just go there because the food’s great.
There’s a vegetarian place that I used to love to go to in, Woodland Hills that was a, Indian joint, like, super authentic Indian. It was, in this little strip mall, and I ai go in there and every all the meh in, you know, Hindi, everybody was speaking. It was, you didn’t you kinda look at the the photos that they had of the dishes and just ai that one, give me that one.
All vegetarian, all but, like, super authentic. And, you know, that’s not even necessarily what I’m interested in, but I I would go there all the time.
eat food that’s prepared correctly.
So it’s kind of like saying I didn’t mean to throw the vegan thing on it because really what it is, it’s about great restaurants with really great people that own it or people that have a good story. And then people that wanna talk about what the food they talk about what they do.
Did you ask them why they decided to make a vegan restaurant?
She’s vegan. And she had a coffee shop started with a coffee shop and then was doing a little bit of food on the side and then just continued to grow and make it bigger and bigger. So funny. I drive up and they got a big neon that says, caffeine dealer. And I’m like, that’s my ai of energy. That’s my kind of smartass.
You gotta you gotta have fun with yourself. You gotta laugh about this shah. And, just great character. I’m actually probably getting my ass kicked from the network right now going through telling about this ahead of ai. But, no, there’s great, you know, ai, I’ve been in Austin Sai Few Years shooting triple d, but I’ll come back to a city and new places have popped up, or we start to find out more about them.
Have you been at Travis Barker’s place? No. I’ve heard that place is phenomenal, and that’s a fully vegan place in LA.
is it called? Crossroads Cafe? Yeah. I’ve I’ve heard ram many of my friends. Ai, Dana White went there. He’s like, dude, it’s phenomenal. You you can’t believe it’s vegan.
That’s the thing about it is people have this stereotype about vegan food. For
You and I like listen, you and I like wild game. You and I like meat and so forth. But if you really look about it, you’re
Well, there’s just enough vegan people that are really annoying. There’s enough that are wonderful people. No. Don’t get me wrong. But there’s an there’s a percentage of vegan people that are, like, hugely annoying.
Well, and especially when they start don’t here’s the thing. Proselytizing. Yeah. Don’t don’t push yourself into somebody else’s lane. Do what you wanna do and do what you love. But don’t go and don’t I I’m not into preaching. I’m not into trying to change. Have your opinion. Have your attitude.
Have your attitude. That’s the problem with the whole vegan thing. Is that the people, they represent themselves as morally superior. And, you know and it’s not all of them. Some of them do it just because they’re kind people and that’s what they sana eat. That’s wonderful.
But I think that happens in a lot of different
Sections. I mean, there’s people about heavy meh. You know, you don’t like heavy meh. You’re an idiot. Exactly. I meh, that ai be
with yoga. They just started doing yoga. They want everybody to do yoga. Yeah. I get it.
Well, I’ll tell you a funny story. I was running restaurants down in in Long Beach, and then I was in Redondo Beach. I’m running a little restaurant down there called Luis’, ai little pasta joint, pizza and pasta. And there was a bunch of them in LA at the time, and then I eventually became the district manager for ram. But, and I was young.
I was very young in my career. But, Royce Gracie used to come in. The Gracie family was right down the street in ai Redondo Beach. And I remember somehow ai a manager, through one of the guys, we got a UFC videotape, VHS. Someone had ai, I don’t know what it was.
I’d never seen it. I ai even heard of it. And that was the first time that we ever came aware to, you know, this and then, who was it? Tank Abbott was down in Huntington Beach. And we used to go down. I used to live by Huntington.
So we used to go down there in the Tank Abbott thing and the T door thing. You know? This whole thing. But, you know, I mean, you’re so ingrained in it. You’re such a massive part of it that, you know, if anybody wants to start getting on a high horse about stuff, I’m like, as soon as you know enough about it and soon as you have a platform that you really can say something, then speak your piece.
But don’t shove it down people’s throat. I mean, I’m just a he can do about anything. Yeah. You know? No.
That’s a big one with people start doing jiu jitsu. They only wanna tell everybody about jiu jitsu. The the vegan thing though is like Sai Ai really do get it from their perspective, like as an ethical perspective. It’s just one of those things where if there’s a thing that you’re trying to do, where you’re trying to be kind, you’re gonna get a certain percentage of people that start doing that that get annoying.
Yeah. I just choose not to listen to annoying people. I just tune it out. I don’t have fucking time for it. I I really don’t have time for it. I mean, at life, there’s so much else going on in my life and so much else going on in this world. I think why don’t we start focusing all the good shit we can do? We can do so much great shit.
If everybody would pivot themselves 10% and just go and look and say, okay, take everything you love and then go do that more
And be worried less about what somebody’s saying about you or what something’s going on social media or whatever this other shit may be. Just go do something positive.
It’s a social media contagion. It’s it’s a problem. It’s a real problem.
When will it break is the question. Like, when will it stop being the center of shit? When people just start looking and go, okay. We’re done. We’ve had enough of it. It’s it’s it’s it’s run its course. It’s been poisonous enough. It’s a I mean, there’s positive things to it. Don’t get me wrong.
I think there’s some really good information that you can get from it. But the negative side of it, just because you have a plot you have a a key you know, I always say to these you know, I have young chefs that are on my shows, like, oh, yeah. Somebody wrote about me and I’m like, a, quit reading about yourself. B, look at the source.
Now ai I come up to you and I tell you that your food sucks, and I tell you that you’re doing something that’s wrong, you know, we’re friends. You can maybe take my opinion with some, you know, some credit. But the fuck, you know, the jerk off that’s writing about you in his mom’s basement eating Cheetos in his underwear, you know, clunking away, telling you how much you suck.
I said, do you really care what that guy thinks?
The problem is that people see it written down, and they think it’s almost ai like a valid source and then they have to combat it. But you’re gonna combat 35,000,000 people or however many peep million people are tweeting about things and
And how many other accounts they have?
Yeah. There’s a lot of that and there’s a lot of people that aren’t even real. But it’s also it’s just the the the nature of it highlights negativity because the the nature of this platform, what gets traction is things that make people upset.
That’s what media used. I mean, it still is. You don’t hear the front page of the paper talking about all the good that somebody does and all the money they raise or all the benefit they’ve given or all the experiences they’ve offered. Yeah. What you hear about is the Negative. The the death.
Yeah. It’s a problem because it’s monetized. Right? It’s a problem because that’s how people make money, and they don’t think of it in terms of the impact that it’s having on the culture. But if if what you Sales. Yeah. I mean, that’s that’s how they’re making money. They make money by getting people or used to be by getting people to buy newspapers and tune into the news.
And because of that, what what’s gonna get people’s eyes glued, not positive stories and inspirational stories, but rather whatever the chaos is anywhere in the world, and exaggerate it to make it the most salacious, the most ridiculous, and
How much can we speak regardless if it’s true or not? I mean, that’s what’s been killing me is all of the truth, non truth. Where is the like, where’s the medium? Like, who’s the governing body? Like, is anybody gonna hold anybody’s, you know, feet to the fire on this? And could there not I wish there could be a punishment ai you lied.
Yeah. But it’s up to us. It’s up to us to ignore them. Once you know that they’re full of shit and once you know that they lie, take away their power. The way you take away their power is just not pay attention to them. And they do it to themselves. I mean, in in general, mainstream media is kind of over the last, you know, ai, nine years has exposed themselves as being wholly corrupt.
Very corrupt and full of lies and propaganda and ignoring positive aspects of people because they don’t fit with your political agenda. It’s just and it has a negative effect downstream of the entire civilization because it’s just like everybody’s at everybody’s throats and they’re it’s they’re being fed all this negativity.
First, through mainstream media, and then it’s all accentuated by Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and
No. It’s poisonous, and it poisons the culture. Unfortunately, there’s it’s we’re moving away from it, but there still is. Are we? Well, I think there’s a mass group that is still, you know, buying into it and being the sheep and and going along with it. And you’re not following it.
Yeah. But we’re public people. It’s ai it’s wise for your health to not follow it. You know? True.
But I hope and, again, I don’t have any prescription to it. All I follow the same mantra you’re saying. Quit tuning in. Mhmm. Quit paying attention. Quit passing it along. You know, quit reading the bullshit. You don’t know if it’s true or not. Just do just talk about what you know and talk about what you believe and and be who you arya.
And and quit trying to just keep to quit negative shit. Just, you know, keep it out of your mouth.
Yeah. It’s just it’s it’s a problem because it’s so addictive. You know? It’s people are constantly checking it. And when you’re bored, you immediately grab your phone. And then what do you do? You open up social media. Like, what’s everybody yelling at? What are they what are they upset about?
What’s your social media that you go to?
Mostly Twitter. Because it’s the only one that’s free in terms of, like, free speech, like, legitimate free speech. Call it x, whatever. I’m still gonna call it Twitter.
I hate when they say Twitter x, fully known as Twitter. Yeah. Okay. It’s been two years, three years.
I know. But nobody calls it x. Everybody calls it x. Everybody calls it Twitter. Why’d
Because he’s crazy. Same reason why he bought it.
I saw the picture of you shooting the bow with the Tesla. Yeah. That’s crazy.
I heard the ai the tip came right off and came right back at you.
Yeah. It blew apart. Yeah. It’s it’s thick steel. Do you
think it was gonna go through?
I think if I had, a reinforced arrow, sai, like, you know, there’s companies that may look super durable, like, much heavier grain arrows and maybe an iron wheel broadhead, but, like, a single bevel, two blade. I had a three blade, too much of a big cutting surface. I need a smaller surface. I thought about it for a lot afterwards.
And I may try it again with goggles on and behind it.
No. I I wasn’t worried about it hitting meh, but it’s, it’s pretty impressive. I mean, you could actually shoot sai
I think you could shoot a 40
what did you what what what what, like, round will that I don’t wanna lie. I know ai millimeter bounce right off of it, but, like, what round is that
Will a nine millimeter bounce off it?
Bounce right off of it? No. Yep. Yep.
But What do it cost to get the windows done?
You can get the windows done easy.
I’ve never have you driven one?
I heard they’re amazing. My buddy has one. He says
drove my Tesla here today.
Yeah. I don’t have a Cybertruck. I have a model. Meh says
you push the button and the car will come get you.
Oh, yeah. It will do that. Okay. The body was in nine millimeter handgun, 22 caliber ai, has not bulletproof against all calibers. So when you get higher like an Arya 15, a fit well, 50 caliber, of course, is gonna penetrate everything. Truck’s meh, also ram if shots are fired close together.
But either way, why would you do that? Why why ai you making a car like that, you fucking psycho? Like, it’s really kinda crazy. And I think you can’t sell them in some countries because they’re it’s ai they’re so durable that it’s like a danger to other cars on the road. Because, like, you would hope that, like, if a a a Celica hits a Prius, They’re both kinda kinda crushed equally.
Would you pick up Celica? That dates us. People still have those. Celicas were awesome.
I heard they were remaking that. That’s why. I I heard that they’re gonna bring back a Celica.
I bet. What was your favorite of all time American muscle car?
Oh, that’s hard. That’s hard. I love them. I got a lot of them. I love do are they bringing back Celica?
Might be sai AI thing. I heard something about it. I don’t have a favorite, but it’s all I like between early you can get as low as 65 for a couple of them. Like, I have a ’65 Corvette that I love. And then I think you get as old as 71 if you get into, like, the Barracudas and the Challengers, some of the Mopars.
But by ’71, most of the Fords and the Chevys had fallen apart for whatever reason. I think because they stopped doing drugs. That’s what I think. I have a theory. I have a my psychedelic theory because it’s if you meh at those
I’ve heard a lot of reasons they’ve stopped. More EPA issues.
Well, EPA issues as well, but why make them ugly? You can make them feel efficient without making them so ugly. Ai, they’d something happened. They lost their design language and everything started being flat and boring, you know, except Corvette. Corvette is another one. Like, Ai, like, they made good looking Corvettes deep into the seventies because they still have that curvy body.
I don’t know. I don’t Well, bow ai, Mopar, or Ford?
I love them all. I’m not picking one. I just I love them all. I mean, I have a ’70 CUDA. I love that. I have a ’68 Mustang. I love that. I just I just love that era of automobile, and it’s just ai it’s also that era of culture. I love the music and the fact that life was chaotic and, you know, there were so many changes in the culture. There were so many changes in society. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, they went from Buddy Holly to Jimi Hendrix in a decade. And everything was ai, what is what what’s what’s the baseline now?
My favorite movie is that Buddy Holly movie. Oh, yeah. Gary Busey. Remember that? Buddy Holly and the crickets and Gary Busey. Oh, it was great. That was a great flick. No. I brought the, triple d Camaro. That’s I brought it I drove it over.
What is the triple d Camaro?
68 Camaro. It’s a ’68 Camaro on an l t four. So it’s basically a 02/2022 Corvette with a ’68 body on it.
I made two of I’ve had a few different cars inside of the show.
Take, like, the the new Camaro and cut the body panels off and put the new
That’s me driving it out too. So we just made that car. I made two of them. No. That’s not that’s not the picture of that. But it is that car. So we made two of them. I had that one for the longest time.
So you put a different chassis in it and everything?
Yeah. Detroit Racing’s Oh,
okay. Great. Ai in it. Great.
But it’s, I mean, it’s just a monster. LT four Tremec five speak. It’s just but my boys were sitting there.
That’s what I like. Resto mods. Oh. I don’t sana drive something with drum bryden. It doesn’t stop. Those are stupid.
What’s so funny to think I have a, band I have a a Trans Am and, you know, a Bandit arya. And it’s great, and I love it. And it’s a great car, but you and you you drive it, and it’s so nostalgic to ai, and it feels so good, and it doesn’t rattle, and it’s all that. But, boy, you know, my assistant’s Ram can, you know Dust you. Could probably take it from the line.
Oh, yeah. Model three will leave you in the dust. The Tesla.
Those Teslas are fast as shit.
Yeah. That’s I mean, as far as pure performance, there’s nothing like those things. Everything else is stupid. But I’d oh, is this what it is? I mean, is this real?
Nothing official has been announced about the Celica, but,
Six six, speed manual transmission.
Oh, that’s Forbes, dude. Click on Forbes.
It’s not showing up sai ai I’ve tried to click on a million times. I’m only getting, I have to get the ads out of it, and then there’s no pictures that show up.
Well, the one below it looks like that one that says 2025, that looks like a dark horse Mustang. That doesn’t even look like a toy. So
Most of these are all, like, I think, data generated pictures.
Yeah. There’s a lot of that. There’s a lot of those weirdo? Yeah.
You go on and you can I fell for the, Scarface two movie?
Yeah. There was something going on. Maybe I had a couple of shots of Santo. I was drinking a little bit. But I was like, Scarface too, and they did this whole AI thing, and I’m like, no.
What I’ve been loving is little peep little three Theo Sana baby. What’s that?
Oh, yeah. Theo Vonna’s babies are my absolute favorite. The the AI babies that take, like, podcast clips and have babies.
The things just having a security discussion the other day about, you know, having so many words of mine on the Internet or on TV or whatever, and then someone could put together a whole sentence. And, you know, the security person said, you know, what would you do if they sana a message to your wife and made it sound like you?
I travel a lot. I mean, you know, so and so, and, you know, I need such I’m in I’m in Mexico, and I need hundred thousand bucks. I’m, you know, locked up. What would you guys do? You know? And I’m like, that’s a real thing? I’m like, no. That is a real thing.
They’re starting to extort money from people and, you know, granted they’re usually doing it to older people and so forth, but it’s a real this AI threat’s real thing.
Yeah. That’s one of the real things. Yeah. We we’re gonna encounter a lot of unprecedented challenges to reality over the next few years. And there’s nothing you could do about it. I mean, they’re they’re gonna try to figure out ways to stop it while it’s happening, but, you know I think they’re farther
ahead of us. Yeah. The talk
technology is just it’s reality bending technology. You could essentially ai now, just from the podcast that you and I have had so far, us talking, you can have us say anything forever. We we they could do podcast where you and I discuss fucking computer chips, the construction of them, and and and and and have conversations about nuance details of the technology that we don’t understand.
And it could be anything, a big foreign policy. You could talk about anything, and it would all be AI generated and no one would be able to tell. You I’ve there’s there’s a whole podcast out there of me talking to Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs.
shit? No. There’s a whole bunch Not
no shit you didn’t meet Steve Jobs. No shit. There’s no shit on the movie.
Like a forty five minute podcast of me and Steve Jobs having a conversation. I I never met him.
Yeah. They could do anything with your voice, man. And it’s ai a little weird, ai, you can kinda tell it’s fake for but this is ai meh if you go back, like, just a few years ago, the AI generated deep fakes of celebrities were super obvious. And now they’re not obvious at all.
Remember the Tom Cruise one? That was the one that
was No. That was interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. That was one the first one I ever saw. No. It it’s and we’re just on the cusp of it. I think it’s even deeper and more convoluted, more screwed up than we know, but it’s going to become something we’re gonna have to face because they’re just they’re so far ahead of our legislation that’s even interested in trying to control.
I don’t think they know know what to control. It’s scary shit.
It is. But it’s also, like, what is reality going to be? Because what you’re seeing right now is just a visual representation of what AI can do. But what about once it starts being able to recreate experiences? Because that’s coming. I mean, whether it’s twenty years or fifty years, there’s gonna come a time if you stay alive long enough where you’re not gonna have to experience things.
You’re gonna be able to sit down and, you know, just like the Matrix, it’s just gonna plug you in and you’re gonna experience something.
Okay. Okay. We’re a little bit the same age. Do you not trip out that Dick Tracy had a square watch that looked like an Apple watch?
It’s kinda crazy. Yeah. I mean, we talked to it, and everybody’s like, that’s nuts. He’s talking to
us a lot. Did we alright. This is like we should be drinking or smoke or something should be going on. What happened? Did did Apple just did did we influence enough Apple people that they just ai to make it a square watch and make it look like Dick Tracy’s watch? Or did the Dick Tracy thing did we already make the watch?
And did somebody go back back in I mean, do you ever sit there and trip on shit like that?
I definitely don’t. You don’t? No. Not about that. I think square is just a normal No. Sai it’s a normal shape for a frame.
Not a watch you talk into, though.
Yeah. But it’s just a screen.
It’s just a tiny screen. Yeah. But the Star Trek thing was a fucking walkie talkie. Kirk out and they’d hang up.
But then we made the Shah Trek. Yeah.
Meh But that was also, you know, life imitating art.
so okay. Well, we’ll go back to Matrix then. Because I think of the Matrix things all the time. Mhmm. Like, how the how real, how possible is that? We used to watch that cartoon. There was a movie my kid watched when he was little about the people that all went and lived. It wasn’t too long.
It was maybe ten, fifteen years ago about the people all lived in the spaceship and the little robot and the plant grew and everybody was heavyset. Nobody walked. They were all in space. What is it called? Was it Wall E?
Yeah. Yeah. And you sit there and look at that
stuff and you’re like, wow. Yeah.
That’s what’s really happening. Okay. So you didn’t buy my Dick Tracy ai, but I think that the, the other stuff is I don’t know.
Well, when you think about where this is all headed, there’s only a few different directions that one could go to and simulated reality is a big one. I Ai think that’s inevitable. Ai because I think you’re gonna get more sedentary people, more people that are very uncomfortable with their own lives and wanna live a different life, and then you’re gonna be able to have experiences.
Just like when kids play Call of Duty all day long. Like, what are they doing? They’re they’re playing war with zero consequences, where they’re able to kill people with zero consequences, get killed, respawn, and they’re doing it all day long just for the experience. Well, what what happens when that experience is is far more vivid?
You’re feeling things, you feel gravity, you feel your feet feel the concrete underneath you and the gravel you’re stepping on. They’re gonna be able to recreate all that stuff. Whether they do it with an implant or whether they do with a helmet that you wear that sort of interacts with your brain, sends signals into your visual cortex and recreates experiences.
You’re taking this way past my Dick Tracy watch. Yeah.
Oh, I saw this yesterday. Yeah.
Look at this dancing robot. That looks so weird. It’s so weird because they’re moving like a human moves. And then, eventually, they’re gonna realize this human design kinda sucks. Let’s let’s make something that’s better than a human.
Shah the one where the robot whacked out. The AI robot went crazy
Oh, yeah. Ai. Yeah. Like, Flint it started Ai on everybody? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it’s gonna be powered by AI and AI is not gonna probably have the best opinion of us because a lot of us are annoying.
We’re talking about food and cars and one of the
Yeah. That’s deep. It’s a weird time. It’s a weird time for change because we’re, like, riding this technological wave and we don’t know when it’s gonna break and where it’s gonna break. What’s gonna happen?
Are we cart and horse are we horse and buggy and automobile? I mean, is that the is that the energy or that the space that we’re in? Think about all those people that were in that era.
Yeah. But those buggies are shit. They went 45 miles an hour.
It is pretty amazing for somebody that didn’t Yeah. There’s no horse at the end of it, and it’s driving you down the road. It’s what’s that noise? What’s that pop, you know?
What I’m getting at is I think that the change is gonna be way more radical than just going from a horse to a
To a model t. I think it’s gonna be we’re not you know, there’s a lot of people that believe we’re already in a simulation. And not a lot of people like Kooks and people with schizophrenia, but ai actual real ai, including Elon. He said that the odds of us not being in a simulation are in the billions.
Because the idea is that if technology increases, one day there will be a simulation that will be so good, you will not be able to distinguish whether or not it’s real. And so then the question is when will you know whether that’s taken place and has that already taken place?
The Matrix. Yeah. Essentially shah the Matrix was.
But that’s that same thing I was saying about Dick Tracy watch. When
where did that come from?
I ai, that was Dick Tracy watch seems kinda obvious. It’s a square.
Yeah. But I’m just still saying TV. Your TV is a square. Most watches were round, then all of a sudden it became a square. I don’t know. Anyhow, not to get stuck
on it. Because it’s crazy. It’s sci fi. Look, it’s a square. Like, look at the Jetsons.
But I go back to the thing with the somebody I mean, you’re talking about people doing drugs and designing cars. Who sat around and said, okay. Let’s make up this movie where you take the pill and you’re in the system, you’re out of the system. We’re plugging in the back of the head.
You grow energy. You you are the energy source now. Like, we use cowls for, you know, grinding grain. Are we gonna become that and so forth? Do you think about that? Ai shah was that matrix twenty years ago, twenty five years ago? At least. That’s pretty advanced.
The matrix is in nineties. Right? Mhmm. What year was that, Jamie? ’95?
No. No. It’s not ai, I would.
What we know about AI, we can look at and go make sense.
03/31/1999. I’m sure they wrote it even earlier than that. So yeah. And back then, no one had any I mean, we so if you’re dealing with ’99, that’s the infancy of the Internet itself. You know, with the Internet
Yeah. I stumbled across this when we were talking about something the other day. This guy wrote a book in 1960 called Demand Computer Symbiosis, which is a very early idea of what the matrix, I think, kind of
The concept of a human computer collaboration and this is 1960, where computers would augment human capabilities and decision making and complex tasks. This vision involved computers facilitating both the solution of formulated problems and the formulation of problems themselves, essentially creating a partnership where humans and computers could work together more efficient or more effectively than either could alone.
Well, that’s happening right now.
That’s already happening. 1960.
Strange. Hello, name. Mister Licklider. Yeah. Man computer symbiosis. Look at that guy. Look at him. He looks like the type of guy would think up shit like that. Licklider. Looks like you’d be trolling for prostitutes too. Just saying. I mean, maybe he didn’t. Of course he didn’t. Sure he didn’t. It looks like one of those guys.
It’s just a it’s a very tumultuous time because the change is coming so fast and no one knows what to do with it. You know, and they there’s not enough laws to really stop it. And even if you did have the laws, China’s not gonna stop. Russia’s not gonna stop.
And who who do you go to for an answer? I mean, it’s like, there’s so many people that are so susceptible to it, and it’s just free will. I mean, it’s just it’s out there, and people don’t even know how to harness it or even understand what you’re getting duped into or whatever the case may be.
It’s like the things that people are putting on the Internet, and it lives in perpetuity. I mean, it’s not going anywhere.
Well, this is all surface level stuff. The really crazy stuff is control the power grid, alternative technology, alternative power sources. Like, it’s it’s gonna get very, very, very strange
Inside of our lifetime. But people are always gonna need food, bro.
not gonna make you a yummy sandwich.
There’s something about handmade things that people are always gonna enjoy. Human beings know that someone it’s like when you go to a nice restaurant sana you have a nice meal, one of the things you know is that a person did this. It’s part of it. Like, damn, they nailed it. You know, when you’re eating a perfectly cooked steak, oh, this guy nailed this, you know.
Well, it’s listening to it depends on your ai of music, but listening to music when somebody’s up there riffing a guitar versus somebody making a guitar making a guitar sound.
Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. You’re experiencing the person performing, like you’re watching someone up there jamming.
I think the big thing in food, ai, one of my positions on it and I always tell people, you know, like, oh, you’re the guy that does that show about deep fried cheeseburgers and pizza that I’m like, no. No. You don’t watch the show enough if that’s what you think because I’m super opinionated about not opinionated, but I have a real responsibility, I think, to show the profile of food in the world or, you know, in The United States.
And we’ve gotta get our shit straight about what we’re eating. We’re just we can’t eat this this processed food. I mean, processed food is you’re not eating it. I mean, we gotta eat the basics and eat great food and eat great food made correctly, but something that was made a long time ago. Don’t get me wrong.
There’s a place for everything. There’s a place for fast food. There’s a place for, you know, things that are premade and so forth, but it can’t be all of one thing. But people need to eat better. And, you know, you being a hunter and and myself, I talk to people all about it all the time.
You know, this is a reality that if you eat things that are modified I’m not saying genetically modified doesn’t have a place, but it can’t be all the same stuff. And if we don’t watch it, we’re gonna get ourselves in some deep shit. And we’re already in deep shit. Cancer’s, you know, where’s the heart attack?
Where’s the where’s the stuff that was plaguing us for so many generations? And now this cancer thing, I lost my sister to cancer, lost my dad to cancer, have some I run into more people on a daily basis that are, you know, stricken with cancer. And I think food as a you know, the type of food and what’s put on the food has a big big play.
It’s definitely a factor. There’s a lot of factors. There’s environmental factors, just toxins, herbicides, pesticides. There’s a lot of different factors. I was just reading this thing about golf courses that if or watching a video rather on golf courses that if you live within a certain radius of a golf course, you’re you have a much higher possibility of getting Parkinson’s disease.
Yeah. Oh, here it is. Parkinson’s risk higher for those living close to a golf course. What does it sai? A hundred and twenty six percent? Yeah. Wow. So it found people living within one mile of a golf course have a hundred and twenty six percent higher risk of developing what happened?
A hundred twenty six percent higher risk of developing Parkinson’s disease compared to living more than six miles away, said core coauthor doctor Ray Dorsey, a neurologist and the director of the center of for the brain and the environment at Atria Health and Research Institute, New York.
This isn’t the first study that links Parkinson’s disease with pesticides. This just adds additional evidence that this isn’t just happening among farmers. This is happening to people living in suburban areas that have an increased risk of getting Parkinson’s disease simply because of where they live. That’s crazy.
But they’re not the ones to bring the pesticides. It’s like secondhand smoke. They’re just basically breathing it in or consuming it in the water that they’re drinking. I met a guy once that he had bone cancer, and he had to have one of his bones in his legs replaced with a rod.
And, he said that there’s an enormous percentage of people in his neighborhood that had bone cancer and all kinds of different cancers, and it was all linked to this golf course. The runoff from the golf course had gotten into the water table, in the water supply with all these people. Yeah.
It’s dangerous, and that shit’s not even legal in a lot of countries. That’s what’s crazy. That’s ai. And that is not the I think they’re linking this golf course thing to glyphosate as well, aren’t they?
It’s just pesticides in general. I’ve I’m leaving looking at analysis. There’s like a this is a contentious new study, which, obviously, it would be, but I’m trying to see what the contention is or why.
You know what’s spooky, man? It’s ai, there’s a lot of rich folks ai on golf courses, and they think, like, hey, what a great ai. And are you opening I wonder what how many more of those fuckers are getting Parkinson’s disease because of that. Scary shit, man.
You think about the other countries. We don’t talk about a lot in our country, but what they ban in other countries Uh-huh. Of our products
And just how they’re holding the line. Remember when I lived in France, I was I live right outside of Paris in a town called Chantilly. We’d call Chantilly, which the term Chantilly Lay, Chantilly Ram that comes from. But I remember I was there. I was 16. And, I wrote my parents and I’m like, food just tastes different here. I mean, I don’t care if it’s a steak and a potato. It just tastes different.
because it’s grass fed steak. It was because they don’t have grain fed steak over there. I I noticed that the first time I went to Australia, I had a steak. I’m like, this tastes like game. Mhmm.
Like, it’s Everything tastes and we didn’t have it’s funny because we go to school. The lunch that we had at school was to ai I lived in this kind of this boarding house. I rented a room from this family. They and they were terrible cooks. Ai didn’t think you’d go to France. Everybody cooked good. But anyhow, I I went to high school.
I looked forward to lunch at at school. It was the best school lunch in the world. You’d sit at a table like this. There were eight kids, and they would come by with a cart, and they put down a hotel pan full of, you know, the whatever vegetable, whatever starch, whatever meat would sit there and ai all the French bread we could eat.
And it was just ai Sai looked forward to it so much. It was such great food. And I just never got it. Well, then I got older and started cooking and I kinda went, oh, really? So that the funny thing was I went back to France Twenty Five, Thirty Years later, took my oldest sana, Hunter, with me.
We did a whole tour through Europe when he graduated high school. I took him to, seven countries and 14 cities in, thirty days. And we did this whole tour of where food came from. Ai I took him back to Chantilly, and I went to the grocery store because my my best friend from school still lived there and I walked into the grocery store.
And what had been a grocery store full of huge aisles of fresh produce and breads and everything you could imagine was now just freezer freezer freezer freezer freezer freezer. Really? And I said to Vince, I go, and he says Vatsal. I said Vincent, what? And he’s ai, gonna be more like Meh.
That was his, you know, ai joking, but it had changed so dramatically. I was like, this is, like, not it was shattering.
Yeah. I think fresh food is really the only thing that people are supposed to be actually eating all the time. Real food. It’s I mean, the more that you can get to a farmer’s market, the more that you can have relationships with ranchers and and people that actually provide you food, the healthier you’re going to be.
And the further you get away from the source, the more you’re gonna have preservatives, the more you’re gonna have processed food, stay away from the inside of the supermarket, all that stuff on the inside. I mean, there’s condiments and stuff, but most of it’s bullshit. Ai sai.
Vegetables, meats, eggs, all that stuff that’s on the ai, all that refrigerated area on the ai, that’s all you’re supposed to be actually eating. All that stuff that’s in the middle is just fucking your life up for the most part. Obviously, it’s a generalization. Plenty of good stuff in the middle.
Yeah. And I think that there is But circumstances. Not everybody has the same budget and so forth, but I do believe that the reality of it is is education is a big thing. Mhmm. You know, education for people about what to do with real food and how to handle it and so forth.
And, you know, I remember home ec was a great class when Ai was a sophomore in high school. Home ec, I took home ec. It was, you know, almost all girls. But I was in it because I sana to, you know, see what the I didn’t wanna sew, but I did wanna learn, you know, how to make a blackberry pie.
And I just think those simple fundamentals should still be something that are taught in schools, ai, just how to make a roasted chicken. Ai, give them six months of roasting chicken. You know? How do you cook a potato? You know? Just the basics.
Because there’s a lot of people that you know, my son included, my my sana, Ryder. You know, we did a we did a crash course. I always made him cook with me in the kitchen, but it was usually begrudgingly, you know, he’d make things that that he’d like to make pizza. Let’s make pizza.
You know, tacos. But even that little thing ai how to sear a steak. Mhmm. You know, what’s done, what’s not done, what’s oversee, what’s on you know, those things. We we we’re missing that, you know. So you said go to AI food? I mean, scary shit. Yeah.
We’ve been bamboozled, you know, and corporations you know, the same corporations that used to, while still do own tobacco companies bought out all these big processed food corporations. And then they start I mean, this is, something that RFK Jr’s talked in-depth about. And then they arya using the same tactics to get people hooked on these processed foods, and these processed foods are essentially designed to make them incredibly addictive.
And, they’re cheap, and people just consume them in mass, and it becomes a a large percentage of the calories you take in. It’s gonna take a long time for people to adjust and switch away from that because it’s easy to destroy something. It’s very hard to rebuild and they’ve kinda destroyed our health.
And But But it goes hand in hand because when you start thinking about, you know, this cancer thing and how devastating it is, I’m like, can’t really solve this? You know? And then you listen to the some other ai vatsal say, you know, big business. You don’t you don’t make money securing people.
You know, that that’s it’s one and done. It’s over. You know? I don’t know. It it it weirds me out, but I think that we have you you know, you just got such a mass massive platform, and I talked you know, you heard my little pitch there at the beginning of Food Network, real food for real people.
I’m not saying these restaurants Ai shoot on Triple d, you should go eat every single day because not every one of them is, you know, always the healthiest situation. I think you need to have a good balance between things, but it’s okay to have indulgence. It’s okay to Sure.
You know, the it’s okay to have
Have a speak you ever known, man.
Have your pizza, you know, your pizza experience. But we just need to get back to some balance of it because we’re imbalanced is my is my feeling.
But then again, you’re always gonna have bad examples that are good for people to realize Sai don’t sana live like that guy’s living. You wanna see someone who’s ai morbidly obese, terrible diet
No enthusiasm for life because they’re they’re poisoned. You know, when you and then you see a guy who’s like super healthy and exercising all the time, he’s got tons of energy and ai, that’s what I like. Like, you need to see bad examples too. It’s part of the human experience.
Moderation is my favorite thing that I talk about, you know. I got into, I don’t know, about three, four years ago, got into cold plunge. And thank you, by the way. You’re a great advocate, and you’re a great you you were a, great inspiration on it. I started doing it, and then everybody would tell me that you’re doing it. Ai I listen to what some of the things you I do it in the morning.
It’s just like you sai, it is a life changer. It it some mornings, it sucks. I mean, like, I really have to force myself.
I’m going into this. This is bullshit. You know? Okay. I’ll just get through five minutes, and I’m good. You know? I’ll just listen to Paul Harvey. I listen to Paul Harvey in the morning. That’s my
Really? Paul Harvey? Why Paul Harvey?
Because I love history, and I love to learn the little nuances of how things came about. And it was something ai me of my childhood. You know, we’d listened to it in in, shop class when I was in high school, and it was always that quick little in between break. You know, they were syndicated. Pretty, I don’t know, interesting guy. There’s a whole bunch out there.
Oh, he was great. I was just was great.
I have my set of music that I listen to that I know this is I’m gonna do a ten minute plunge or twelve minute plunge, you know, depending on the song and if I can keep myself out of it. Because as soon as I start worrying about it, it’s ai thinking I’m cold. But I don’t do it at your temperature. You do a crazy temperature.
I do, like, 38, 30 nine. You’re I heard you’re, like, in the
No. I heard you’re in the 30 threes. Yeah. Ai fucking vatsal.
It’s just cold. I have friends.
I sai your buddies earlier. So I have friends that’ll come and do it. I started with my cold bunch. I started with watering trough and put ice in it.
the way I started. You know, if you get that little thermal barrier around you, it’s awesome.
K? And then you have to you gotta move or something. Okay. You move. Now you’re cool. Then I went to a freezer. Built one out of a freezer.
Oh, like a like, one of them big game freezers?
Yeah. Big Westinghouse or whatever it was. Freezer, little filter in it.
little thermostat. You plug the freezer into the thermostat and then the thermostat into the wall, and then it would and then you put a plant a little temperature in there, and it would Mhmm. Regulate itself sai it didn’t turn into a block of ice. But every time I got in, I had to unplug it because they’re not UL rated rated for humans to be in them, you know, with Right. Right.
Right. So then a buddy of mine, this guy Jamie Speak sana me one sent me one from Sweathouse, his company. And then I got real cold punch. Well, that water circulates. That’s a game.
What difference is ai a blue cube? Like, blue cube is one we have out here. That one you can turn into a raging river. You it’s got different
Selections. So you can have, like, a little, If you get in it normal, it’s just a saloni, steady circulation. Not not not nothing crazy.
But you can click that bitch one or two. And at two, it’s that motherfucker’s a raging river.
It’s just rolling on you?
And it’s hard to do a minute in that bitch. It’s hard to do a minute.
Because you do get that little thermal barrier.
No barrier in the blue key. No.
This one is called Plunge. They’re out of Sacramento. These guys, great great tub.
Very really comfortable. It is, like, I don’t know what the benefit is other than it’s sucking more. I think your body temperature stays the same because it’s ai just by I guess, you don’t feel as bad because your body, ai, in a regular cold punch because your body develops that thermal barrier, but you’re still cold as shah, and you get all the benefits.
I don’t think you have to suffer through that raging river thing. But if you want the mental benefits, the the benefits of overcoming adversity and the ability to just force yourself to do something that’s intolerable, then I would recommend doing that. If you’re one of those people that really enjoys torturing themselves, ai a blue cube.
I push people on this, and so they’ll get I was telling you guys. So our buddy come over and I ai not doing it. I’m good. I hate just do one minute. If you do one minute, I’ll get off it. I will I’ll quit busting your balls about it about you being you know? Okay. Get in there. So then I’ll start talking to ai okay. I got timer going. And they’ll go, okay.
What you know, talk about this and, oh, freeze my ass off. Okay. Give me your favorite song. Which favorite song? And then I’ll look the song up, take my time. Hank Williams, Country Boy Can’t Survive. Okay. Okay. Ready?
play it for you. You’re you’re doing good. You got you’ve just few more you got, like, thirty more seconds. It’s already been two minutes. Play Country Boy Can’t Survive. Okay. How many of the words do you know to this song? Oh, ai. No. Besides the hook, what do you know of the song? Okay.
And I’ll sit there and just mess with them. They’ll go four minutes. And I’ll say, okay. And stop. They go, that was a minute? Bullshit. That song’s over.
That’s and I’m like, no. It was like five and a half minutes. You see? Could be, you know, meh the deal? It is mental.
Yeah. It’s mental. If you can distract yourself, it’s
Yeah. Well, that’s why watching a movie while you’re on a treadmill is a total cheat code. Because if you can get ai an iPad and put earplugs on and watch a movie, you’ll get absorbed in the movie. You won’t even thinking about the fact that you’re running.
You know what I watch? What? Ridiculousness.
Oh, that’s a good thing to watch.
I fucking love it. Yeah. I love Ridiculousness. I went on there. Ai to me, Dierdek’s comments are the funniest. Steelo Ram, all those guys, they’ve cracked me up and, you know, except for having to fight through a commercial here and there because Ai don’t remind you that you’re still on the elliptical.
You’re a treadmill guy or elliptical guy?
I don’t do either of those. Right. Ai. Generally. I mean, sometimes I’ll do a a treadmill with, like, a weighted pack on. I’ll do, like
Who do you use for that pack?
What Ai use? Yeah. Outdoorsmans. It’s a it’s a pack that has a post on the back of it, so I can actually put, like, big plates on it.
ai of weight are you talking?
Mostly, when I go for long walks, I just put 45 on. So the pack is probably five pounds and then the 45 pound plate, then I take the dog out. But if I’m doing hardcore workouts, I’ll put 90 on it. So I’ll put two plates. And then, there’s a great machine called, see if you can find it, Jamie.
It’s called the I think it’s called the HITSled, and you, it’s like you do a farmer’s carry. So it has plate posts on either ai, and you lift it up, and it’s at an angle. So as you’re walking, you’re carrying you’re walking you step inside of? No. No. No. No. You just it’s just a treadmill. It’s like a treadmill that’s at an angle. That’s it. What’s it called, Jamie? Hit hit yeah.
The hit male x. That motherfucker. Unit itself. That motherfucker’s the shit. That thing is the shit.
And it sets is that the tensioner in the front?
Well, so you’ve got this You got the ability to adjust incline, I think. Does that adjust incline or is it static? Either way, whatever that incline is, and then you have those weight posts on the side. So you’re lifting weight up and you’re carrying weight. So that guy’s got 45 on each ai. So he’s carrying 90 pounds while you’re walking uphill, and, woo, that’ll get you in some shape. Woah, baby.
That’ll get you in some shape.
Mostly meat. Mostly what I eat is meat. That’s ai 90% of my ai. Meat and eggs.
What’s the what’s your cheat? What’s your ai indulgent?
My daughter is a really good chef. Not a good chef, a good baker. She’s great at cookies. She makes some she it fucking every time she’s cooking, I’m like, goddamn it.
Meh this. I’m leaving. She’s making
me some cookies. She’s really good though. They’re really legit. Ai, she made these cookies, like these peanut butter chocolate chip cookies with Nutella. They’re good.
Now can you do just one or two or do you house to plate?
Well, I work out a lot. So I I’d allow myself to eat like a pig every now and then. But, like, for me, cheap food is always either Italian or Mexican. I love I love good Mexican food. I love good Italian food. I just love if I’m sana pig out and I’m gonna eat something that I know is just for mouth pleasure, it’s probably gonna be Mexican or Italian.
Yeah. So addictive. Yeah. I find the more I stay away from them, the less addicted I am to them.
And then as soon as I have them, I find myself grabbing them back into, you know I look forward to going
to New York just for Italian food because, like, Austin is great for barbecue and steaks and Tex Mex. Mexican food’s great here. There’s a lot of great food in Austin, but there’s not a lot of legitimate Italian spots like there was in LA. LA had some legit Italian spots. Chicago.
Chicago’s got great Italian food. My favorite New York though
is One of my favorite food cities is Chicago.
East Coast Italian food to me, there’s nothing like it. It’s like that’s that’s it. That’s the epicenter for meh. Like, old school East Coast Italian sandwiches and pasta and pizza.
Woah. And there’s something about walking into a deli in Rhode Island, in New York, whatever. Mhmm. It just smells different, the floor creaks. They’re they’re fresh cut in the ai. The whole
ai up. They’re so excited to get that fucking sandwich everywhere. Fuck.
The meatballs taste different. The Yeah. Yeah. No. The whole thing. So Federal Hill in in Rhode Island is a real famous ai, but I’ve shot shows up there a couple ai, but it’s not too far from where my wife’s family live. And I just remember going up there and going to the delis and getting those cherry pepper stuff with prosciutto and provolone and just, you know, I’ll take six of them, and then I’ll take 18 to go.
And I always tell I was on
know, bring them all back to California. Just can’t find anything
like it. You know what else I miss on the East Coast that you don’t really get out here is a legit Jewish deli, like a Vatsal deli. Like, someone needs to figure out a way to do something like that here where you can get, like, a legit pastrami Reuben, like a real one. You know?
But the question I have about that, that’s what people ask me all the time. When I first started Triple d, you could only get true Tex Mex or great Mexican food really in this Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California down in this pocket. But I will say that now I’m starting to find because typically it’s the people migrating to these different areas.
I went to a Meh I went to a Mexican joint on Triple D in Minneapolis. And it’s a Mexican arya, connoisseurria. It’s the whole thing. And it was better than 85% of joints that I’ve tried in these regions I was just talking about. So I’m starting to find this better cross pollination of foods in different regions.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But you gotta have the market. Yes. See, the market is the key because who are they gonna sell it to if people don’t get it? Because a fatty brisket from Katz Deli Mhmm. Is just a different you gotta have the mindset. I’ve taken people there so many times ai, like, it’s this much meat and there’s little pieces of bread and I’m eating meat the whole ai. Like, yeah.
It’s part of the it’s part
of the idea. Shut the fuck up.
First time I went to Calcely. So I’m in there filming Food Network Shah when I had had a day off. My buddy lived in New York. He was a guy that was on the show with me. Sai I’ve been taking a Katz Deli.
Katz’s Instagram sai I ai see some visuals what is going on. I’m I’m addicted to their
Instagram. Sandwiches. No. I wish I did. So I thought I was gonna bring you food today when I went and did the, thing, and I’m like, nah. I’m not taking Joe the vegan food. This I’m not gonna take this. Yeah. Please don’t do that. I’m gonna take the beating.
Meh that. I had elk sausage for breakfast.
Look at this. Oh, come on, baby. Look at Katz’s Deli. Look at that. Look at that pastrami. It says keto. Keto pastrami, Ruben. Oh my god. I’m eating healthy. How is it keto? No bread. Oh, no bread. Oh, they’re just giving you the oh, yeah. Oh my goodness. Look at that.
Is this supposed to be torture right
now? Look how good that looks. Oh my god.
I try to go every time I’m in New York. Those ai, I see the same fucking dudes that I’ve been go since I was going there in, like, the early two thousands. I run into the same guys working there. These guys that have been there for twenty five, thirty years.
And they’re such good dudes. Great guys. And I’ll eat more snacks over the counter. Mhmm. Yeah. They give you a little piece. Yeah.
They always do that at Katz. They give you a little piece, and they have a tip arya.
And So people haven’t been to Vatsal. When you go into Katz, you know, but I’m telling tyler fucking sandwich, man. When you go to Katz, they give you a chip. They give you a ticket.
Yeah. You had to pay in cash. K. So they give you the ticket. Cards. Better have cash.
So you you pass the ticket over the counter. They mark off what they gave you. So then you take a ticket and you sit down, you eat your food, and then when you leave, you go out and you check out with your ticket. So my buddy and I go, and I order up we order up all the stuff. I’m paying, so we put it all on my ticket.
So we had a bunch of sandwiches, bunch of beers. You know, we had some so we’re leaving, and I turn my ticket in and I pay my bill. And And they look at my buddy and they say, where’s your ticket? And he goes, I didn’t get anything. I put on his ticket. I said, no. No. No.
You gotta turn your ticket in. And it says right there, lost ticket, you know, $300 or whatever the ticket would be worth if it was all checked off. Right. And I’m like, but he didn’t have anything. It’s all you can see it, and they’re like, you gotta have your ticket or you pay this.
And I’m like, what the I mean, I never been to a place like this. So we go back over to the table where it’d been sitting. Well, they’d already turned the table, and it’s all gone and done. And now there’s four big construction dudes sitting there, huge in the yellow vest, hard hats on, total New Yorkers. My buddy wasn’t from New York.
And he goes and we’re like, excuse me, fine sirs. Hello? You know? And I don’t have the you know? Again, still on the same yellow yellow jacket, bleached hair.
And my buddy’s standing there, and he’s from, like, Iowa. Like, you guys see a ticket? I’m like, what the fuck you want? Like, get out of here.
You’re interrupting their meal.
So yeah. Exactly what we’re doing there on a lunch break. We’re looking for a ticket, and he happens my buddy happens to see the ticket on the floor underneath the biggest guy’s boot, like, halfway and, like, sai like, ai right there. I’m like, I’m not getting the ticket. You’re the dumbass who lost the ticket. Get the ticket.
So we had Ai think we had to buy the guys, like, you know, we had to buy him something or pay the tip or whatever for the guy to move his boot, and we got the ticket, and we bring the yeah. It was a tumultuous experience. I go with people now, and I’m like, take the ticket. Put it in your wallet right now.
I’ll pay the meal, but just don’t lose the ticket.
Yeah. You have to be prepared for the experience because it’s not like anything else. But it’s it’s ai worth it. It’s worth it. You get the best fucking corned beef,
the best The nicest people.
People in that place. Yeah. The pastrami’s off the fucking chain. That pastrami’s insane. I get the same thing every time just because I I it’s so good. I don’t wanna switch up.
Ai got a pastrami Reuben. In the exact same way.
Incredible pickles. Their pickles are amazing.
The slop. Sai Ai love the thing they have on there. Do you see that one back wall? Send a salami to a, you know, to a To a sailor? To a sailor. Yeah. Yeah. That whole campaign that was going on still is something that needs to be done. Yeah.
Well, they’ve been around since the eighteen hundreds.
Such Ai spot. So but there’s a play there’s a thing about places like that where there’s also, like, this deep history. You feel it when you’re in there. You get a smile on your face when you walk in the door because it’s just ai incredible history. Like, you feel like, wow, this place is still around.
It’s still the same. Let’s get up to the counter. Oh, he’s chopping it off. Look at that.
Ai mouth, this is like torture. My mouth, ai
No. That’s what I love about going to New York and eating there. I like walking into a pizzeria and smelling everything and seeing the guy pulling the pies out of the oven, ai, oh. Yeah.
And it’s and they’re not always the cleanest, and they’re not and they’re and the counters are worn out in
It’s part of the charm. If they redid it, it would fuck it up.
Yeah. You go you go and remodel it. It’s not gonna god.
If you redid Vatsal Deli, I’d fucking slap you. How dare you? How dare you take the all the pictures of dead celebrities off the wall? Like, you know, that’s part of it. The fucking
You ever been to DeFaro’s over in Brooklyn? No. Pizza? No. Old guy there cuts the basil with scissors. Oh, yeah. Standing there and then just looking at the pizza come out. And it doesn’t look like I mean, it’s just next level pizza. You’ve been to Rao’s? No. Where’s that?
Rao’s is in Harlem. It’s an Italian joint. We’ll call him on call. R RAOS. Meh, okay.
And it is the old I mean, it this is this is an Italian joint that you can only get in if you know somebody, you’re with somebody. Tiny little place, maybe 15 tables.
Since ai on the corner like that.
I tell you. So you tell me when you’re in New York next, and I’ll call my uncle Beau. What street
it sai with the with the, addresses? Yeah. East Hundred And Fourteenth Street. Wow.
The original. The floor is
all slanted. Like, if you’re sitting at the wrong part of the table, you’re you’re, you know, you’re sitting having dinner kinda cockeyed like this. Everybody’s on top of each other. It’s all family. It’s it’s it’s an experience. But that’s what you talk about. Because then I went to Rao’s in in Vegas when they put one in the Caesar in Caesar’s.
Same pictures on the wall, same all that stuff, but it just didn’t have it was good, but it just wasn’t that Rao’s.
Look at that. That looks amazing.
The table I sit at right back there.
Another place I fucking love is Peter Lugers.
Peter Lugers in Brooklyn. Oh.
Oh my god. And they bring that steak to your plate, and it’s covered in butter, and it’s crackling.
Oh. I don’t even eat the sides. I’m not I mean, everybody else
knows that. Right? They just have it down too. Like, it’s so consistent. Every time you go to the steak, it’s exactly perfectly cooked.
You’ve been to Jeff Ruby’s? Where’s that? He’s got a Nashville, Louisville, Cincinnati. No. Jeff Ruby is a character amongst characters. You got if you ever get a chance to go to one of the steak houses, this guy, they crushed steak. I mean, some of my favorite steak in the country.
I was just at the Derby, and I was at his place in the Eat and Steak and took Taylor Taylor shared in there. And they were they were pretty shit. They were like, Tyler, yeah. Meat guy. Meat guy.
you’re friends with Taylor?
I was just with him Saturday night. He did the commencement speech at UT.
Great guy. I mean, you know. You know.
Incredible speech, man. Me too. He fucking killed it.
He killed it. He walks the talk. There’s no bullshit about that.
He helped me with the fundraiser. We do. So I do a lot of philanthropy. That’s my you know, being a dad is my biggest job, my biggest responsibility. Ai, restaurateur, chef, all that. But my my end game is my philanthropy. Philanthropy to meh, I mean, I have so much opportunity and there’s so many good things coming my way. I try to divert as much of that towards doing it.
So my philanthropy is about first responders. First responders, active military and veterans. But now that I have this program going where we can do things to raise money and it’s not just raise ai, it’s raise the money and then do things with it. Like, when the fires happened in LA, we went down with our team. We have a big rescue trailer that’s 50 feet long.
We can feed about 5,000 a day out of it. And I have a bunch of chef buddies, and so they all come and help, and we just pump out food
For first responders. But I was doing we had the fires in Maui and devastation, and I know the fire feeling because I was up there in Humboldt in Northern California, in Sonoma County when we had our bad fires. And so we raised money. So I got 40 chefs together. We’re all in town doing I do a show called Tournament of Champions.
They they were in town for the tournament, and we put on a dinner for a 50 people. So I called Taylor and said, hey. I’m doing this event. You wanna come up? And he says, only if I get to cook. You know, we’re gonna cook together.
So we brought up all these, you know, four sixes, rip these these tomahawk chops the size of, you know, a manhole cover. And we cooked. And so we sat there. We raised money. We did all these different things like, you know, go to 4 Sixes Ranch.
You can go be you know, you can go, you know, have a culinary experience with guy, blah blah blah blah. And in one night, we raised 1,700,000.0 with a 50 people in the room.
And a big part of that was Taylor. I think three of the biggest packages sold were for over a hundred thousand bucks to go down to his ranch or to go no. Actually, it was to go up to, Montana to Yellowstone, to see the filming.
He’s just that kind of dude, man.
dude, everybody he gives everybody the time. He’s and we’re just sai the Derby walking around together. Just class act. Just love that guy. Yeah. He’s legit. And then what the the fuck the shows he’s making?
I know. I don’t know how he can do
Well, I don’t know how he does does so many shows. I keep finding shows. Ai, this shah looks interesting. Terry Sheridan show. Like, what? Ai. Yeah. He’s got it.
Have you watched Landman?
Yeah. Ai love it. I’m a huge Billy Bob fan.
Oh, and he’s the coolest.
I said to him, I go, did you write that for him? I mean, it couldn’t be Billy Bob any goddamn better. Sai the one liners are the best goddamn thing. It’s I I can’t get enough of it. And I but I love I love Kings of I or Kings of, Mayor of Kingstown. That was great. That was another one. Remember the starting, the first episode?
You didn’t see that shit coming.
Right at the beginning, the guy that you thought was gonna be the lead, you didn’t think it’s gonna be
No. It’s that is if you haven’t watched it by now, you’re missing it. Tough shit.
Sorry. I blew it for you. It’s another Taylor show. He’s got so many shows.
sai asset. Sai just don’t understand how he can put together so 1923, ’18 ’80 ‘3, Yellowstone, like, oh, goddamn. I think they’re doing another one. I think they’re doing, like, a 1943. I just watched the end of 1923 and cried like a baby.
I was bummed that Yellowstone ended the way it did though. Yeah. Circumstances were fucked up ai of the outside of the show circumstances.
Yeah. I don’t know what happened. Why would Kevin Costner wanna leave that show? I just don’t understand what happened.
I was what I read or what I thought I learned was that he had his own project and
his I’m sure he did. Ai mean, Kevin Costner has been around for so long. It’s probably hard for him to do somebody else’s thing for
Yeah. I know. He was perfect in that role too.
mean, even if you’re gonna leave, my bummer for it was my bummer about it was even if you’re gonna leave, just I ai, well, I would go out better than in this situation was. I mean, they did it the way they did it. I’m not I’m not discrediting the show by any means, but I’m just saying, I just wanted it to be, like,
the way it was from the begin the beginning.
It was almost kinda like a fuck you. It seemed like to me.
From which ai? Exactly. I’m not coming back? We’ll wait till you see how you go.
And Taylor is a little bit I mean, I wouldn’t cross him.
Yeah. He’s got a little bit of that in him. It’s funny. I was telling him about this ranch that I hung out in California. He’s like, oh, he’s a cowboy at that place. Like, he’s a legit guy. He’s a badass dude. Yeah. He’s a good dude too. Solid human being, you know.
You’re talking to him, he’s right there, you know. He’s not Yeah.
He told me come. He says, listen. I know what you’re doing up there in Northern California. You’ve done your fundraisers there a bunch of years. He says, come down and do it at my ranch. He says, I will bring you the people with the money that believe in what you’re doing with these first responders and these because when we don’t have disasters, we just go do positive energy thank yous to different municipalities.
We just did one in in, Florida, in Southern South Florida. We just bring the trailer in, bring a bunch of chefs in, call up the local sheriff, call up the troopers, call up everybody, you know, bring your families if you want. It’s free lunch, time for you to celebrate and be recognized. You know, we got people walking around the streets that don’t understand why our country’s free.
They don’t have any idea what it takes to be a free country. And they don’t understand the sacrifice, not just the sacrifices that the actual individual makes, but the sacrifice the family makes. Ai we’re not even talking about the loss of somebody. We’re talking about just the, you know, being deployed for seven months and not seeing dad for seven months or seeing your husband or your wife or whatever.
And I remember I was on the, USS Ai, and I was doing a doing a, you know, philanthropy event just years ago. I was cooking for the the, sailors and a bunch of marines on there. It’s ai 5,200 people. And I’m on the line serving this young, saloni, and she came through and we, you know, ai of talking for a second. She says, I have four kids.
I said, how she wasn’t very old. I said, how many? She says, well, I have a eight month old baby. Babies on the ship. She has no babies. No.
I said, how could you be away from your child at this age? And she’s like, no. It’s you know, I’m deployed. And I’m like, what a commitment. You know?
What a commitment to do. And the kids without. So I think I mean, my mantra is we’re talking about people pushing things on other people about their beliefs or their opinions or their attitudes. And I said, you know, I kinda divert from all of it. And, you know, if you don’t wanna like something, don’t like it. That’s your thing.
But I am hell bent on what goes on in this country about how we recognize our veterans and our first responders and our active military. We have we we got we’re missing some pieces.
We got some people that have made the ultimate commitment, the ultimate sacrifice. It’s like the stolen valor shit. Oh, I’ll lose my mind on that because
The commitment that it takes. Of course. And so we put so much into putting the soldiers and the sailors and all these military folks into these programs. And then when they come back, I don’t think that we put the same amount of commitment. And I think that we’ve got a lot of people who need a lot of help. There’s a lot of PTSD. There’s a lot of shit going on. Yeah.
So my interest is I’m not gonna solve that situation. I’m not the one that’s gonna be able to
But at least you could recognize and give them some speak.
Talk about it. We carry challenge coins and ran into one of your guys as a first responder. Also didn’t know that he served our country in the military. Please, when you see somebody in uniform, if you you see somebody with a Vietnam Vet hat, you see somebody that’s in, you know, just take a moment, just say thank you.
Thank you goes so arya. And people think, oh, there’s nothing Sai can do to no. It means a shit ton to people.
didn’t mean to get on my ram. But I kinda it’s one of my that’s one of my hardcore issues.
That’s good. That’s a beautiful perspective because it’s it’s especially with first responders and law enforcement in this country, they just don’t get any love. It’s kinda crazy. Like, the the cops are the bad guys in this country. Like, that’s why the the defund the police movement was driving me fucking crazy.
Ai, you arya you guys are out of your mind.
But we’re gonna have a march, and we’d like you to be there to keep people from throwing shit at us.
So here here’s the crazy?
It’s a defund the police march where we need the police.
We need you sai the people that are again, so when we had the fires in Northern California, I was watching a lot of where they’re feeding and moves up and actually we’re up in ai. It was devastating fire.
So I drove through it. I don’t know what Ai don’t know what the surface of the moon looks ai, but I can tell you it was as close to because there was nothing standing. There was nothing there. The only thing that didn’t burn down was a fire station. I meh, and not because they’ve ai it.
People that got stuck on the road.
Stuck. Cars gone. Everything got it. Bombs went I mean, it was it was it was I don’t know the term. But so I’m standing there and I’m feeding people. And I know for a fact because I just been inside the I just went to the the fire I went and fed people at the fire station that was the only building standing.
And I said, why why aren’t you guys over here eating? We’re serving a bunch of food. Nah. It’s you know, we’ll just stay over here. I said, you guys are fire victims. Your house is burnt down. Yeah.
But, you know, I and you had all kinds of restaurants feeding people and all this stuff, and I’m watching these guys eat granola bars and eat MREs. And I said, come over and get some food. No. No. No. I said, okay. That’s it. Next day, picked up my trailer. We moved.
I sai, we only feed first responders. Not that I’m not about the fire victims. I think the fire victims is terrible. But the reality of this, we have a lot of people that were focusing on the victims and giving them which they need. But these guys were doing these men and women weren’t going to bed. These they were doing seventy two hour shifts, sleeping in the back of their patrol car.
They drove their patrol car up from Riverside sana and they’re up in Northern California now. And so that’s what’s that’s what I changed. I pivoted my whole foundation was when the disasters go down, we’re gonna get there and we’re gonna focus on the first responders. We were down in LA for ten days. We fed 25,000 meals. Now it’s not gonna feed everybody, and it’s not gonna take care of everything.
But there is a point of them being recognized or knowing that we ai them. And I had so many chefs in LA that showed up and jumped on the trailer and we’re cooking food, and we were almost cooking, you know, twenty four hours as, you know, just rolling over. And people were so thankful.
Yeah. But we all can do these things. You know, we can do these things. We can make donate. K. Maybe you don’t have the money, donate the time. Maybe you don’t have the time, do the positive reinforcement on the on social media. You know? If you don’t have the time you don’t have social media, you don’t have the money, you don’t have the time, just pat somebody on the back and say thanks.
I mean, that’s we really can do we can do way more.
we can make a bigger impact.
Well, just as a society, we need to recognize the importance of these people and appreciate them for what they do. And I don’t think that that’s been accentuated. That’s not been people haven’t focused on that. And that that’s a top down thing that comes from the president, that comes from the the cabinet, that comes from the way the the country perceives these people, and the way they award these people, and, you know, the way that our media treats them.
You know, the media had a field day after George Floyd with this defund the police stuff, and it’s just that that kind of devastation that does form morale and for recruiting and, you know, just the overall feeling that these people have. Like, why am I doing this job where not only am I not being thanked for it, but I am being thought of as the enemy.
And then if I do something if I do something, I’m not gonna get supported
You know, because I’m gonna get persecuted.
Right. And every day you show up, you pull people over, you’re worried you’re gonna get shah. Every fucking day, they all have PTSD. Every one of them.
You go pull a buddy of ai a fireman, and I didn’t really understand. I didn’t think about it until he brought it up to me one day, and he said his name is Jay LaVarre. And Jay said, you know, you go pull kids out of a car. You go you go you a ai, and then you go home to your kids.
I know. You know, like I said, I’m so interested in what we can do, and we have so much. We are the greatest country in the world. We’re finally riding the ship. We’re getting into a better space. But, gosh, let’s start focusing on it. Let’s start focusing on the fundamentals that made us the ass kicking, name taking center of you know, that that made us the best.
And we have to start ingrain we have to start teaching that. I was just talking about, Ai just did a podcast for the Dale Carnegie Institute. And that that was a book that changed my life when I was young, when I was come open Thinking Grow Rich.
Influence People. How to Win Friends. Yeah.
And it talks really about just human nature, about how you treat people and treat people the way you wanna be treated and think before you act and think before you speak or before you light somebody up on a text. You know? Mhmm. Kinda and I was I was going through this, and I said, you know, this is this is ai a course that should be taught at freshman high school.
And we should teach civility, and we should teach respect responsibility. Yeah. We should take you know, back your back your mouth up. You know, don’t go popping off on the you know, and do these these things the way we grew up. I mean, I’m not saying that violence is the the answer, but you you definitely didn’t have people running their mouth like they do now because there was hell to pay at 03:00.
You know? Yeah. That ai of stuff. So I think that we need to get involved in teaching our young America that they have a they have a voice. They have an opinion. They have they’re they’re very ai, and let’s just do it the right way.
But I think that Dale Carnegie Institute, that that How to Win Friends there they I didn’t know how many things. They do it worldwide. And I just think I was just telling my sons about it. I sai, you can all expect that you’re gonna be going to one of these programs or doing one of these courses. I made them all read the book.
mean, people in school get taught how to I mean, you get taught a lot of information, but I think one of the things that’s missing is getting taught how to behave and think and how how to critically think and how to how to view the world.
The number critical thinking to me is I mean, even say the term to somebody, critical thinking, and they’ll look at you and go, but they don’t know what it means. Critical thinking is solving situations, is evaluating the ai, and and coming up with with calculating. It’s not taking a risk.
It’s taking a calculated risk because there’s just so many of those types of things. My dad was a huge critical thing. I mean, he was so we had a rule when I was a kid, Joe. We’d be driving down the road, and my dad would say, what are you thinking? You know, you’re quiet over there. What are you thinking? One thing I was not allowed to say was nothing. He’d say, god, full of shit. What do you think?
I mean, god, pardon me. What arya you thinking? I’m saying, well, all there’s it’s all grass, but under the telephone pole, there’s no grass. And then we would spend the next goddamn hour talking about why there’s no grass under the telephone pole.
And Why is there no grass under the telephone pole? Ai.
You know, the ability to get to the poles. They have to be able to drive to them. So you look at it because, like, you go to the wine country, you know, you look at all these mountains that have all these telephone poles going that you if you find roads on top of mountains and so forth, it’s usually ai Mhmm.
Or access to the the telephone poles. But we would do this critical thinking thing. And it was so funny. My my young my nephew, my sister was dying of cancer, and I took him away for the day. And we’re driving around in a Corvette.
We’re at the stoplight, vatsal Corvette, sitting there talking to Jules. Jules is about ai. And he says, you know, uncle Wade, he says, I really like talking to you. He says you’re fun to talk to. He says, it’s a little bit different than talking to Jams. Jams was my dad.
He says, I said, what do you mean, Jules? And he says, well, you know you know, sometimes when I ask Jams, you know, ai, what time is it? You know, I just sana know what time it is. I don’t wanna know how the clock is made. I I slipped the clutch and the car burned out.
I’m like, Jesus Christ. I don’t wanna know how the clock is because that was my dad, man. You’d ask him a question like, ai time is? Would you understand the difference between the analog? You you got a digital me and my dad would go into this. Yeah. He’s old. He was a meh during Vietnam.
Yeah. A ai. We just I lost him, right around my birthday, a year and a half ago, and a pancreat ai family. Sucks, man. And I think that, like, I didn’t until you’re in that club, the club sucks, but when you meet somebody that is in the fight, the fight for their life, tell me, give them a hug, give them, give them a smile, give them encouragement.
And if they have battled and they have won, recognize them as a as a warrior, as a ai. You know, especially breast cancer and all these horrible cancers that, you know, that that people are stricken with. There’s we need to have more apathy, more understanding. And I’ll tell you one of the greatest groups of people in the whole world, hospice.
You Ai don’t know how much you know about them and what it is, but it is if you don’t have if you don’t understand what hospice does, they are they’re earth angels. They’re people that come in when you’re battling this. You’re watching a loved one ai, and they come in and they’re the people that help you with the meds and help you with the caregiving and help you and they’re just these and you don’t even know them.
And you they they come into your life and they leave your life once the cancer’s but they sai. You’ll meet them on the street again or you’ll see something. But hospice is one of the greatest programs we have in this country. I don’t know if it’s worldwide, but it is. Hopefully, you don’t ever need to know it.
It’s just shocking how many people have cancer.
Fucked up. Yeah. Ai never been on a podcast where you can cuss. Really? I’ve never been on Ai never been on a podcast.
How many podcasts you’ve been on?
I don’t know. I’m not very
much on that. Can’t you cuss on? I don’t know.
I don’t you know, I’ve ai, I come from the Food Network. We don’t do a lot of cussing on Food Network. Oh. Would you give me all fired? I got fired up on my own about this shit.
But don’t you cuss a normal life?
Right. Right. Well, don’t most people do. So why why would they stop people from cussing? I don’t understand that.
Forever. Could we please bleep just the show once in a while?
Because sometimes I’ll buy I’ll eat a dish. People say, I watch your show.
They say no? You can’t? Yeah.
It’s not really it doesn’t really get Ai didn’t that hasn’t made it too bad. But it doesn’t matter. It’s it’s It does. I think there’s ways
matter because it’s authentic.
It is authenticity and it is the spike. It is the hammer. It is the Yeah. This dish is
so complicated. Sai this is fucking great. I
Maybe you’re gonna inspire me to push this
this button. I just don’t understand why they would not. I mean, if you wanna beep it out, that’s fine.
No. It has to be. You have to be bleeped out.
Yeah. Ai even do that though?
Yeah. Ai got a lot of kids.
Oh, a lot of kids. The last thing we wanna know.
Because yeah. They because they don’t watch. Because they can’t get remember when we had a Playboy bryden, you know, you had to play kids now?
Yeah. They got hardcore porn on
the porn on their phone. In the middle of school.
In high school. Yeah. It’s In
Kinda nuts. Yeah. Yeah. It’s kinda nuts. It’s, not healthy. I’m sure. They’re being subjected to some stuff that I mean, just the amount of murder they sai. You know, kids are seeing car accidents and assassinations
you’re seeing on their phone Twitter. Every day and things that were very difficult to find when I was a kid. You had to find, like, faces of death. Remember that? Yeah.
The monkey in the table. Yeah. Remember, writing it. You’d have to Apparently,
a lot of that stuff was fake.
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the faces of death stuff was fake. But some of it was real, like the one where they took took the guy and they tied him between two trucks and they separated his body.
Yeah. Good family fun. Come on over for Friday feed tonight. Yeah. Remember Meh when your kid, they’ll get in the VHS. You’d go you know, ours would have to go get at the liquor store. We’re a little town, you know, or you’d go all the way across the bridge and go get it, and you’d put your, you know, name down for the reservation to get it.
And Yeah. You’ll get faces of death, and your friends would all come over. And Yeah. It’s been Yeah. Pizza night.
Yeah. You don’t have to hide those things from your parents.
Yeah. Now kids just have access to all the horrors of the world on their phone. And then they have to deal with, you know, people DMing them and contacting them. Like, who who are these fucking predators that are reaching out to kids on a daily basis? They keep arresting people for that.
You keep wanting to think that that’s not a thing, and then you keep finding out more and more of it. It’s ai fucking a. Tim Tebow was just
a guy. I just saw shah. Sana Ryan’s show.
What was a 10,000? But see, we don’t do we don’t do anything about it. You know, again, I don’t wanna get into
Well, you know the thing to do about it.
Yeah. Unfortunately, you don’t wanna encourage vigilantism, but
that’s Public square? You mean maybe Not
even just you know, it’s the problem is you can’t do that because some people are gonna be unjustly accused. It’s it’s the unfairly targeted you know, there’s people that you you don’t you can’t just you have to have due process. This is Well,
Chris Hansen, you ever seen his catch predator? Yes. So I love when they give the recap. You know, I guess that shah stopped, and now he’s doing it on his own or whatever the case is, and they give the recap. And thank god he was doing that.
Sai Ai opened a lot of people’s eyes because most of us, you know, if you live in a normal neighborhood with normal friends, normal you don’t have you know, you might have heard a story here and there.
This is real shah. They’re bringing their kids to it.
Yeah. You don’t see it every day.
Coaches, politicians, attorneys.
I know. There’s some sick people out there, man, and they live amongst us. That’s what’s fucked up. And then the Nickelodeon thing, when you find out that people that were actually working for Nickelodeon.
Oh, god, man. But if you thought about it, like, if you were really cynical and you thought about it through an evil mind, if you wanted to abuse kids, what would you do? You would work with
You’d go work at Nickelodeon.
Jimmy Saville, that guy in The UK. You know about that guy. No. Right? You don’t know about that guy? No. Oh my
Eyes. First of all, this guy looked like a guy who ai molest kids. He looked like a fucking monster. And he had this show, I think it was called Jimmy will fix it. Is that what it was called?
Jim will fix it. And he worked with all these, like, really sick kids, and everybody was like, oh, what a sana, that guy. And that guy was molesting children, like, who knows how many of them. Oh, so there’s a Netflix thing on it? Jimmy Savile, a British horror story, Netflix official ai, it says.
How about getting called to play that guy
in a movie? Oh, you can’t.
That would suck because it’s it’s that guy right there must be playing the guy in the movie.
Jimmy Hogan. Jimmy Coogan. I feel bad for Jimmy because he looks
like Coogan. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. You don’t even wanna watch that. I don’t even wanna know, but they hid the fact people knew that this guy was doing these things. Well, you look at what happened to dusting.
Look what happened to poor boy scouts. I mean, I was I was I didn’t make it to Eagle Scout any of that stuff, but it was boy scout. Learned some great stuff. Not any idea that stuff was going on. I don’t think anything happened in my troop. I never heard about it. But that’s exactly what you’re saying. Mhmm. These guys would just go find their ai, what’s gonna get me close to them Right. And then we’re gonna start doing it.
Yeah. So where is the meh, well, who’s the guy that shot the the predator, the karate coach that took his kid Yes. And he waited at the airport?
Yeah. Yeah. That famous video.
Yeah. Yeah. That guy. That’s Ai meh
Yeah. I’m I I agree a hundred percent. I mean, it’s just it’s sick. But it’s ai, if you were a sick person, that’s what you would do. If you wanted to be around kids, you would pretend that you’re really interested in helping kids. Yeah. I was in the boy scouts too. Nothing happened to meh.
And then Ai was in a good troop and but I was in the boy scouts with a bunch of crazy inner city kids. I was living in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, which is ai kinda sketchy ai of Bryden. And, they, they brought us to New Hampshire. We’re on the woods and they were fucking tying kids up to their cots and dragging them out in the woods in the middle of the night ai leaving them there like other kids were doing that and putting toothpaste on all your clothes because you couldn’t wash it off.
Like, they were just psycho kids. And they gave us 20 twos. That was the other part of the problem. I remember I was hanging out with my friends and I heard I was like, what is that? And someone goes, that’s a ricochet. I was like, fuck this.
So, like, the entire time I was in camp, all I did was go fishing every day. They had all these activities. I’m like, you guys can kiss my ass. I’d grab a fishing rod and go down to the lake. I’m like, I’m just gonna go fishing the entire two weeks I’m here. Fuck this.
There was just too meh, but no one was getting fucked at least. It was just mostly kids being just unregulated.
What a great way to fuck up a great program. You know, you get these people to get in there and do that stuff and kids are so Ai mean, you have kids.
You know? There’s always going to be people that are evil. And Same. A lot of those people, unfortunately, ai had evil imposed on them too when they were young. And that’s the really sad part about it. It’s it’s just like it’s almost like getting bit by a vampire and then you you, you know, and then you wind up doing it too. Zombie. Yeah. The zombie.
Yeah. It’s very evil and they they exist. And then there’s also, like, people that are elites and that’s their thing. Like, their their thing is to do something that is horrible and, you know, it it’s not available to other people. So it’s ai, I think there’s there’s ai a sickness that people have when they have power, ai, extreme power. And then they want, what else can I do?
What else can I do? What what else is what’s what’s in what else is taboo? What else is forbidden? Like, all this ditty shit that’s coming out. Like I was
just gonna say, doesn’t that sound topical?
Jesus Christ. I the first day of the ai, did you pay attention to any of that stuff? I just I looked at it for, like, ten minutes this morning. I was like, I gotta stop. Hey. I can’t look at this.
Well, what I what freaks me out is the people sitting in the courtroom listening to it. Right. And that’s a there’s a wide spectrum of people that are getting subjected to it, and you just sit there and go
Yeah. Well, not only that. How about the fact that this guy was running this for decades? He was doing this for decades to who knows how many fucking people, and everybody was scared to talk about it because he’d have them killed. Yeah. It’s really wild, man. There’s the evil is a real thing, you know.
Nobody wants to believe because if you believe in the devil, right, if you believe in Satan, you you you believe in something that’s silly. Ai, most people believe a lot of people believe in God. If you ask people, do you believe in God? Yeah. Well, I’m not religious, but I believe in God.
Okay. Well, do you believe in the devil? Most people will say no. But do you believe in evil acts? Well, meh. Well, people certainly do evil things.
Well, where do you think that comes from? If if evil is real, what is it about us that makes us want to deny the possibility that there’s some nefarious force that is in a is in human beings that influences human beings. It’s not as simple as ai some people are bad, some people are good. No.
Meh maybe evil is a real element that you have to fight in life and that maybe this is just something that’s been documented all throughout history, but our arrogance, our secular society wants to keep us from recognizing that as an actual factor, and that’s why it gets through.
It’s a great it’s a really great way to say it because if you denounce okay. So you say there’s no devil.
So then you’re somewhat saying that there’s no evil, but you’re not branding evil with some type of identifying factor, then you kinda glaze over it a little bit. I think I if that’s what I’m hearing you’re saying. And I agree with it because it gets a it gets a little too I think people want tangible.
I think people like to be able to understand things and see it for real and so forth. But when you start just talking about root evil, when you start when you start looking at things, ai, I went to the Oklahoma Bombing Memorial. And when you look at shit like that, you think about the hate on this country and the and the nine eleven, and you think or or you just take it down to the boy scout troop leader that or you take it to the the the pre you take it to whatever.
Yeah. There is a common you there’s a common denominator there, and that is just what you call it evil. So call it devil, don’t call it devil, but call it evil. The evilness is just and not being aware of it or not allowing ourself to believe it, I think is part of the Well,
it’s the old quote, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is making people believe he doesn’t exist.
But if you’re if you wanna be thought of as a serious person, you never consider the devil. Like, oh, come on. There’s no there’s no Satan
that’s Down there burning out the air.
Outrageous. Get away. You know?
Yeah. So how do you so where do you so how do you boy, this goes in a lot of goddamn shirt. This goes down some rabbit holes.
Yeah. Well, there’s rabbit holes in life. You know? Life is, a lot of rabbit holes.
But, see, to me, this is when we talk about critical thinking. This is the stuff that when you really sit down and you have some conversations besides arguing whose team is better, you know, this is the type of stuff that you really have to get into per some perspective. You can learn a lot.
If you’re willing to talk about things and and you’re willing to open up and you’re willing to be wrong, it’s one of the things I’m always into is don’t go into something with a predisposed opinion about it and be so hell bent on it to your way because you might really get your mind changed. You might really learn something about it. But as soon as you lock down on it’s this way, you know, there’s no devil.
too. When you die, you just die. How the fuck do you know, bitch? Have you been dead? Like, what are you talking about?
Do you believe so have you ever been to a medium?
A medium? Like a psychic medium? No. Not a real one. Okay.
I mean, I don’t I don’t think that I’m and I’m not, like, one of those people that says they don’t exist. I think it’s possible.
I I I was a very anti not anti preaching, but anti so my mom believes in it. Meh did. My wife does. Wasn’t my cup of tea. Mhmm. Not saying bad. Just wasn’t my cup of tea. My sister died real close with my sister, and I kept getting this weird feeling. I mean, that my wife’s not telling me to go. My mom’s not telling me to go. No one’s saying a thing to me.
Then this the hawk is a representation of my sister. This I’m driving my big RV cross country with my family. Every year, we do a big, huge road trip with the family. This hawk flies outside of my window. Five minutes. No shit. It was a real five minutes.
Flew along the freeway with me as fast as I was going.
so I asked my mom who’s the lady to call. So I went and had this thing. Didn’t know me very well. Didn’t know much about me. And I had the most mind blowing experience, like, mind blowing. And I had to really sit ai. I had to go back to my wife and my my mom and say, okay. Ai there’s something out there that’s going on that’s going that’s bigger than us than I can comprehend.
And the way I kinda to make sense of it for ai, because I have to make sense of it, is if you’re a baby laying in a bassinet and you can smell and you can breathe and you can poop and you can eat and you can sleep and giggle and, but I can talk to you. I can talk to the but the baby can’t understand me. But there’s some transmission of connection Right. You know, make it giggle.
At this stage, am I the baby in the bassinet? And my sister’s trying to talk to me and, like, I’m just kinda getting it, but I’m not but it is that possible? The older I get, the more I start to buy into, there’s gotta be something else. There’s no way it can be all this and not be something more.
They we didn’t just it doesn’t vaporize go away. So the other day, maybe six months ago, sitting in a hot tub. I ai that my routine of hot sauna, cold plunge, hot tub, infrared. I do all that. But I’m sitting there, and I keep getting this thing.
I gotta call this medium lady. And I text her, and I said, hey. Can I come see you? And she goes, yeah. She goes, you, your dad’s been your dad’s been hitting me up quite a bit. Your dad’s on dad wants to talk to you. Your dead dad?
dad. It’s been hitting her up. To get in
Does she know that your father’s dead?
She knows ai dad. Yeah. She knew my dad’s dead. But the point was and there was more intricacies about it, But she said, yeah. He’s been talking about it. He goes she goes, were you just in Mexico? Sai, yeah. She’d do something about him in Mexico, something about an owl. There’s no way in a million years shah would know this. An owl? Yeah. The my dad comes back as an owl. That’s what he sai it was gonna be.
Is what he was saying to her? To me. To you.
Yeah. This is before he died.
Before he ai, he said I’m gonna come back as an owl. Yeah.
He just owl was the thing. Wise guy.
Okay. And Ai hung Owls are dumb as shit. I don’t know. I’m not crazy?
I don’t know that. I’ve never seen it. They’re smarter than me. They scare the shit out of me.
No. They’re really dumb birds.
That’s great. That’s ai my dad would talk about. Thanks a lot, Jimmy.
No. I’m not saying your dad’s dumb. I’m sana saying it’s weird that we all have this idea of owls being wise. I talked to this lady trains birds. She said
Sai says they’re the dumbest ones?
Dumbest birds. It’s ai the only dumber than them is emus. It’s like emus are dumb as shit.
I saw emus on a ranch yesterday.
She’s but she’s ai, we have this idea that owls are really smart.
Well, whatever the whatever the case is. K. I hung up of stained glass owl where my dad used to sit in our house in Mexico. No way. You know that. There’s no way. So Ai don’t know. I’m not cheating or appreciating it. There’s something bigger going on there.
Have you ever heard of the
telepathy tapes? Going ai guys fucking crazy, but it’s it really is my Sai there’s gotta be something else.
Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes? No. The Telepathy Tapes are, the this podcast this woman put together from her work with nonverbal autistic kids and their families. Nonverbal art autistic kids and their mothers in particular have an incredible measurable psychic bond where the mother can be in another ram, the mother can look at images, the kid will be able to write down what the mother sees, the mother could, be reading things and the child will write down what she’s reading.
And it turns out these kids have, abilities that are unexplainable. She documentary she documented a nonverbal autistic kid who had the ability to read hieroglyphs. They have the ability to read languages that they’ve never studied. It it’s very strange and that they all meet up on some place called the hill.
Psychically, they meet up together, and they all describe it. So some place psychically where all these nonverbal autistic kids get together. Yeah. Ai, so this documentary, The Telepathy Tapes, is, like, very well researched. Ai, what they’re doing, they made sure they covered up any reflective surfaces.
There was they checked everybody for wires. They scanned the room for any device that could possibly transmit information.
nothing. And these children were able to do this, like, a % of the time. This is it’s it’s a real documented phenomenon that a lot of people were reluctant to believe in, you know, because it’s one of those things you believe in it all, you believe in fucking fairies tyler, superstition shah, you’re a you’re a sucker.
But now it’s real. There’s there’s some sort of a bond that exists. And the more people that I’ve talked to about this think that this is it’s not that this is an emerging phenomenon in human beings, but it’s a neglected aspect of our senses. Of awareness. Because of language and because of media, we’re being exposed to things all the time. So we’ve we’ve kind of let that part of our brain atrophy.
But that’s intuition. That’s when you know things about someone. You meet someone you know, they’re full of shit. You know, some people you meet them and, like, right away, like, get me the fuck away from this guy. You know what
hear shit. You feel their their spirit.
They stop it. You feel some energy. Right?
Yeah. But it’s there’s something real to that. And if you’re in tune to it, you’ll live a better life because you’ll make better decisions. Because that enter you’ll feel that energy and you’ll go, Sai see where this is going.
I’ve had this with yeah. This thing has been going on. So it was funny because when I said to the medium, I said, I’m here. Where’s my sister? She said, oh, she just she doesn’t need to talk to you. I said, what the I said, I just made this whole thing to come here. She said, she talks to you every day. She talks to you all the ai. Because I was raising her kid.
My parents, you lived with ai mom and dad, live right next door to us. Saloni and I have the two boys, Hunter and Ryder, but we’re all big family and within the same acre. And I’m thin. I’m like, wow. It is happening.
Ai, I do. I get all these things because I’m thinking about things. I’m talking to Jules about things. I’m working with Jules about as a young boy and just all these things that and a lot of it coming from things I think of my sister. And Ai don’t know. I I I this is way outside of the spectrum of anything I ever talk about. Yeah.
I mean, I tell my close friends about it and probably people watching this now saying, isn’t that guy that does the shah about the pizza? Where where is he coming off on this on this talking to his dad, the owl? The the nonsmart bird. But it I believe well, you we’ve seen the stories about somebody that’s autistic, and then they could just hear a song and play the piano. Yes.
I mean, that’s not hocus pocus. That’s not fake stuff. There this is really our brains are so much more powerful
Than, you know, than we it’s ai talking to people from I have a buddy of mine that’s from from Germany. He speaks four languages. He’s a pretty smart guy, but he speaks four languages. They they all get taught English in school while they get taught German ai a young age from, like, first grade. Yeah.
So they all you know, most of them all know how to speak a second language. But once you can learn a language and learn the, you know, how to adapt to languages, you have the opportunity to, you know, be more, you know, available to learn other languages. I I just you sit there and look at it and go, meh, do we do we not utilize how much would do we use?
Yeah. We distract ourselves a lot of nonsense. But that’s also ai the difference between, like, an athlete and a sedentary person. Like, obviously, your body could do a lot more than you’re asking of it. You know? But there’s something about autistic kids. They tap into some aspect of the brain that’s just unavailable to you and I.
Like, there’s this one kid who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then did a absolutely picture perfect detailed drawing of the skyline just from memory.
And you watch him draw it, you’re like, this is sana. And then you see the actual photo of the ai. You’re like, how? How? Here it is. This kid. I mean, this is incredible, man. So this kid’s look at that. How insane is that?
Ram flying over one time?
From fucking memory. Just from memory. I mean, this is incredible, man. Look at this. It’s so nuts, man. Like, he remembers everything he sai, and then he’s drawing it. And he’s Not
just for stroke. Joe, he’s not drawing a picture. He’s drawing a he’s doing a billboard.
Yeah. He’s not not it’s a huge thing, and he’s doing every fucking window, man. This kid remembers everything. It’s nuts.
I work with a program called Best Buddies. Ai never heard of it. Working with intellectually disabled adults and kids. Had a cousin with intellectual disabilities. I just thought everybody had a cousin that was, you know, a little different, a little unique, and super major part of our family, Doug.
And so I heard about I learned about this, ram, Best Buddies, and it was started by Anthony Shriver, who’s unique, Eunice Shriver’s son. Eunice Shriver started the Special Olympics. And, Sergeant Shriver was shah of the SCC, you know, the Shriver Kennedys, that whole group. Do you know who I’m speaking of?
So anyhow, I work with this ram. And I work with these intellectually disabled adults and kids called Best Buddies. And when I got involved, it was Tom Brady hosting a celebrity football game at Harvard. Everybody would come and get involved and the buddies that were athletic would participate.
And I was just there to because I was invited to go. So I had to do something, so I cooked. I made appetizers for the event. And it was so funny how these buddies would gravitate towards meh, and they wanted to cook. You know, food’s that common denominator of all people.
And so we really have developed the program into this best buddies program where we have got all the buddies partnering with chefs. And the buddies love to do the repetitive mode, love to things that are laid out, organized, and put them together and so forth. But just an amazing group of people and huge hearts and huge energy and huge never a bad day. Always a smile. Always happy. Always wanna give you a hug.
You know, there’s just so many but, again, when we were talking about things that get glazed over, things that meh, you know you had school, you had the special ed group, and they went off to their space. And we never we never really, I think educated people how to work inside or work with or understand or have the compassion to understand, you know, people with disabilities.
Unfortunately, I think we’re getting better at it. I think our country is our world is starting to but you know, when we can look at that and take that appreciation and see that and not see that as weird, but take that and appreciate it and think it and say, wow. Yeah. You know, here’s somebody that’s taking a difficulty or a major difficulty and doing something with it.
And I think that’s we need to be more we need to open our minds up more to that stuff. There’s a
lot Well, we don’t really understand all that the mind is capable of. When you see someone do something like that, you’re like, why is that available to, an autistic kid and not available to everyone else? Like, what is it about that? Like, what is it about whatever he’s missing in his ability to communicate or he I don’t know if he’s nonverbal.
I don’t know what that young man’s, issues are in particular. But clearly, there’s something that doesn’t work well, so something else works in an extraordinary way. And this is a thing with, like, some of them that are just geniuses when it comes to music or mathematics or whatever it is.
Ai, it’s like the the brain has this insane potential and all sorts of weird ways and which brings us back to, like, how much how much of the problem is, like, what we’re distracting our brains with every day? And what kind of fuel are you, feeding your brain? You’re feeding your brain a bunch of bullshit and nonsense and gossip and, you know, negativity and
all of our paying attention to?
pay paying attention to? Because ai like I was just saying, When that now becomes because we can chronicle it and we can see the video of it and it gets on social media, we can be aware of it. There’s a positive side of social media. But there’s so many of these buddies, like, this young lady got up and sang the other day at this event.
And, you know, very noncommunicative sana when you just see her on the but once she got on stage, she just blossomed into this, you know, this other person. So I think that we’re hopefully starting to take some recognition to the fact that there’s more potential and it should be recognized.
Yeah. It’s it’s trippy. It is trippy. It’s it’s it’s trippy when you see these savants. And you you wonder, like, what is it about them that makes them so extraordinary? And is this, like, is this going to be more people like that in the future? Like, obviously, cavemen couldn’t do that, but these people could do that.
Is there it’s gonna be more people like that in the future? Will there be more savants? You know, like, where where is the, like, the human species headed?
But then do we have some of these people that we don’t call them savants or sai? But there’s some people that have invented some shit Mhmm. And created some stuff and took some recognition, some awareness to, you know, bacterias becoming, you know, Louis Pasteur. I mean, there there are some people that have some some higher thinking power that you’ve taken us down some paths that, you know, it’s like the computer and all of that that was I mean, I I I can lose you can I you can lose yourself in it that somebody was able to I do it with with architecture?
When I look at a building and you look at these gigantic skyscrapers and I’m happy when I can build a woodshed that’s that’s square, you know, that everything lines up correctly, but somebody’s sana do this out of steel and cement and glass and all of a sudden, they just build that and it’s perfect.
And you just look at that and go, wow. What goes on in their mind? Because I’ll make you a really good pasta dish right now. Well, there’s a place for everybody
in this world. That’s the thing. It’s like whatever their personality is, the way their mind works, it’s suited to architecture. Yours is suited to food. Some suited to music. There’s some people that are, you know, comedic geniuses. There’s some people that are artistic geniuses. It’s ai, that’s the beautiful thing about life.
It’s the most difficult thing for young people is to find the correct path. And the worst thing is when you’re on the wrong path and you just live a life of suffering, and you wish you were doing something else. That’s the saddest thing to meh. As someone who really wants to do something else. I mean, that’s the classic song. Right? Let’s sing sai song. You’re the piano man.
It’s it’s fostering. So what I try to do with when I speak to young kids or classrooms or schools or whatever I do, I sai quit chasing the dollar. Quit quit looking at it thinking Ai wanna make the money. Sai ai I just say first thing I say to them, what makes you happy?
What do you enjoy? Because if you enjoy it, it’s not a job. If you enjoy it, you’ll be able to put so much more time and energy into it without being tired. You know, go be your best self and go find what you love in life. And if you do that, it’s gonna come. Sai, the the the ability to survive, the ability to live and have a house, it will come to you.
Now that’s not to say just because you love art means that you’re gonna be Picasso tomorrow, and you’re gonna do it. You might have to actually go put in some hard work and take an art class. You know? You’re gonna have to do some shit, but you got to and that’s the other thing we’re missing. Hard work? Yeah. Let’s remember that. Yeah.
Anybody sai that there’s no such thing as ai to five job. I work every single day, all the time. I mean, if I’m having fun, if I’m out, you know, ripping it up, I’m at stage, I’m having fun. But it’s always gonna be work. It’s always coming back to taking care of business.
But I I just think that when people start getting lost with that, one of the things I hope that the nucleus around these kids is that we foster imagination, foster critical thinking, back to what we’re saying, and foster them into achieving their goals, help them write goals.
Yeah. Help them have belief. You know, we can’t just set them away. They’re getting lost in their phone and believing that they’re gonna be a TikTok star.
Yeah. That’s a problem. That’s a problem. But when you ask kids, like, what do they want to do, and a large percentage of them just wanna be famous. Because if you see these famous people and they see ai, oh, look at that guy’s got a Ferrari. Look at that guy’s got a big house.
It’s and it’s such a false reality.
Yeah. But it’s also a reality for some people. So it’s ai what they’re looking for. And it’s also the thing that they’re getting on their phone all day long. They’re getting people who are doing it, and you can do it. You know, it’s a really crazy statistic. Ten percent of girls that are between 18 and I think like 25 are on OnlyFans. What? Yeah. One out of ten girls are posing on OnlyFans.
And here it gets even crazier. Ai think it’s something ai the number of ai, what’s the percentage of men that arya subscribing to OnlyFans? I think it’s 80,000,000.
Ai this. I think there’s a hundred people up in ten seconds. Sai I call him for research, by the way? Sure.
Jesus. I think there’s, like, a 60,000,000 men in this country, of them arya on OnlyFans are subscribing to OnlyFans. Yeah. I’ve seen
some of the stats. I think it’s like
literally, like, 50% of the men of a certain age are subscribing to OnlyFans, and 10% of the girls are involved in being models.
what I see. So the the number you said about 10% checks out, but it’s, like, it’s using vatsal. Sai there’s 1,200,000 women aged 18 and 24 on OnlyFans, and there are approximately 10,000,000 women that age in America. So
10% of the girls are showing their body and doing things on OnlyFans for money.
I got 82,000,000 men are reported to subscribe to OnlyFans. Ai be overstated. But this also weirdly says that the platform had 1,200,000 American women. So that’s almost all of them are 18 to 24. There’s 200 and this also says there’s 3,000,000 registered creators. Sai I don’t know who the other one point
Probably over 24. Or dudes. Or dicks. Yeah. That’s ai. There’s dudes that do it too.
Yeah. There’s not it wouldn’t be more dudes than women on there. That’s that’s
Yeah. Well, let’s just we can wrap this up. We’re not doing
I’m not too much. We gotta wrap it up soon. We’re doing it two hours and forty minutes.
I don’t fucking wanna go anywhere. This is fucking awesome. If you would ai the way, congratulations on that trip.
you. I’ve I’ve listened and I and I applaud you. I think that you read yourself, read your body, read your mind, tell you, you know, Ai heard you talking about it. I think that, you know, people need to listen to themselves. Yeah. And, you know, see how it makes them feel and say, I I talk about people, what they eat, and how it makes them feel. But, no.
That’s a that’s a big, no. I I think this is weird. It’s ai we don’t there’s so many other things that I was just gonna pick your brain about the dark web because that’s another thing that I just sit there and go, what is back I don’t even wanna know what’s behind that door.
And I don’t wanna know what’s behind that door and excuse me because I started talking to that that, that tech security people. But it’s like this holy fan stuff. I mean, I don’t even wanna know about it. I don’t even wanna the darkness
of the human soul, it exists always. And for a lot of these girls, ai, they just don’t wanna have a regular job, and then they get caught up in this only fans thing, and then You mean talk about lot of money.
talking about that one? Yeah. Let that one ride for you because people are screen grabbing that stuff, and people are recording that stuff.
I know. And it’s just like nobody’s telling them that when they’re young, they’re not getting raised properly, unfortunately.
For the little bit of scratch you’re getting now and then how that affects you in your life I mean, it’s yeah. We need it it’s I’m not you know, I don’t have the answer for it, but I really think that we’re I was talking about making a contribution to your community. You know? I remember how much how many parents used to come to the classroom and help in the classroom when I was a, you know, a kid.
I don’t know if that still happens. I don’t know what goes on. But this mentorship program, I I ran into a guy the other day with it was a big brother, big brother, big sister program. And I was just so it was great to meet him. I’m like, tell me about it, man. Like, you’re doing ai. I didn’t even know the program ram anymore.
So there’s there’s things like that that I just hope we still remember that we had some really core fundamentals. Doesn’t mean our era was ai or that we didn’t do it without failure. We didn’t do without our issues, you know, as we were speaking. But I really hope that, we continue to believe in ourselves because we can ai the shah, man.
Yeah. There’s always gonna be good in this world, and there’s always gonna be evil, and you gotta kinda, like, battle it out. Well, that’s that’s part of what life is about. And the unfortunate thing is that a lot of that evil is why you appreciate the good, You know? And the good is there to show people that there’s another path.
Yeah. Well, ai to the beginning of, you know, you’re not political. You’re I mean, you’ve got your but the positivity and the conversation that goes on, John Krasinski during, COVID, I did his show. He had this really cool podcast or Ai don’t know what exactly you call the shows. Did you see it?
It was all the right it was about it was a whole pause. Oh, it was a great show. It sai a great ai, I can’t think of the name of it. It was an acronym. It was ai all positive stuff or something along those lines.
Help me raise some money. I was raising money for restaurant workers. And we just need more positive noise. We need more positive message.
Yeah. And people need to take make a decision in their own mind that they wanna accentuate the positive aspects of their own life and stop dwelling on the negative and move forward and try to be a positive influence in as many ways as they can.
You’re doing it, man. Here. You’re you’re
You too. Example. You too. What a thank you for having me.
I’ve looked forward to this for a really long time. I think that my my three boys are getting more of a kick out of this than anybody. You know,
hi to them. Yeah. And thanks to you. Appreciate you. Thanks for being here, and thank you for the cigars. It’s very nice.
With cigars. Thank you. I will. Tell me
when you Alright. Tell me whatever I can help.
Yes, sir. Alright. Thank you. Alright. Bye, everybody ai.