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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, several key topics and themes are explored. Joe Rogan discusses the importance of perseverance and practice in creative endeavors, emphasizing that success doesn’t come overnight. He encourages aspiring podcasters and comedians to start small and improve over time, highlighting the value of learning from experience.
The episode also touches on the benefits of therapy, with a sponsorship mention of BetterHelp, an online therapy platform. Rogan discusses the importance of mental well-being and how therapy can be a valuable tool for managing stress and improving communication skills.
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around societal and economic issues, including taxation and wealth distribution. Rogan questions the efficiency of government spending and the idea that the wealthy should pay more taxes, expressing skepticism about how effectively the government manages funds.
The episode features a discussion on the power of suggestion and belief, referencing a documentary about a cult leader who convinced followers of his mystical abilities. This leads to a broader conversation about human psychology and the influence of charismatic leaders.
Rogan also reflects on the comedy scene, noting how the path for new comedians is clearer now than in the past, with more opportunities for exposure and growth. He emphasizes the importance of being genuine and honing one’s craft.
Overall, the episode conveys themes of self-improvement, skepticism towards authority, and the value of community and shared experiences. Rogan encourages listeners to pursue their passions, remain open to new ideas, and critically evaluate the world around them.
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Ai my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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We got pain, you fella. We’re up. What’s going on, Ronway?
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I’m feeling good ai after my little bout with fucking COVID.
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They gotcha. They got you with the new COVID.
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They got me with the new COVID.
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Ai thought the new COVID was total bullshit. I thought it was like a bay baby cold.
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I had, you know, my my girlfriend raised two kids, and she said she’s never seen anybody puke as much as I did for two days. Wow. And, and it was it was brutal. It was just bile, and I don’t even know if I ever, I’ve ever been that sick. It only got after that part of it a couple of days.
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That’s interesting. I wonder if you got multiple things at the same time. Do people usually puke a lot if they get COVID, Jamie? Do you know?
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No. I don’t remember that being a symptom.
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I don’t remember having that either. You might have had a couple things at
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the same time. Because there
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was a bad flu going around too.
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Well, I went to, you know, I went to Vegas and, early, and I had a kinda I just thought I had a cold when I went. And, my doctor here gave me a shot of steroids, and I felt way fucking better. I mean, I felt better everywhere. I was more flexible. I was like, fuck. I sana do steroids every goddamn
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day. Was it?
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I don’t know. But whatever it was, man, I could touch the floor without bending my knees without stretching at all. Like cortisone shot? I I don’t know. Shah she said steroid. She gave it to me. I don’t ask a lot of questions. You know what
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I mean? Felt loose?
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I felt loose and good. I played really good golf. And then I got there, and it started catching up with me. I had my girlfriend. I’m staying in the mansion down at, you know, at, MGM Grand, which is pretty sweet. And, Ai had that show just on Saturday. We got there on Wednesday, and I’m like, fuck it. I’m not gonna make it. I felt it all arya to deteriorate. So I called this doctor here.
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Sai bad. You didn’t think it was you were gonna make it on Saturday.
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I didn’t Sai didn’t. I I thought I would need a blood another shot of steroids. That’s so I called the doctor. I had the hotel call a doctor, and I thought I was getting the doctor that was, you know, whatever it takes to get through the show. Right. And, you know, but that’s not the doctor I got. I the doctor I got was we need to let’s test you for COVID. I’m like, no. No.
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I don’t have COVID. He said, I won’t charge you if it’s negative, which didn’t make any sense to me. And I said, well, okay. And then it came up positive for COVID. And he said, see there the t and the x and the and the thing? And I said, yeah. I see it.
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Let’s do it again, because I don’t think I have COVID. So we did it again, came up positive again. Not only would he not give me the COVID shot, he told me to quit taking the antibiotics I was already on. And, and he did nothing except for call the CDC to tell them I had COVID, and they both said you cannot do the show. I’m like, wait a minute.
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You’re the wrong doctor. I Ai don’t want to fucking retire today shit. I sana here’s the your drummer’s a junkie. He’s out of heroin. Get him some fucking something to get him through this guy.
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So they were telling you you can’t do the show because you had a specific kind of a cold, a COVID cold. So if you had the flu, would he have stopped you from doing the show?
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I’d say absolutely not.
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That’s so weird.
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Think it would even come up.
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That’s so weird. Because right now, like, the deaths from COVID now are so low. Like, the idea that this is still a pandemic and they still have to treat it differently than they do a cold. They do. And what
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Why? Well, I you know, I I was faced with, do I cancel a show? Well, that’s not the same as Sana Louis when they just moved the date. The people from Saint Louis come back. Right? This is Las Vegas. Right. A lot of those people come specifically to see me because I don’t do all those shows that I used to do.
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So it’s kinda if you want to come see it, then that’s a good place. And so it’s a problem. You know? It’s a refund. You gotta refund them all because those people aren’t gonna
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be there. Most importantly, your fans are bummed out.
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Yeah. My I’ve disappointed them. Everybody’s here. Fuck. Let’s do the show. So I just said that I didn’t know what to do. So I’m like, well, I’m just gonna call MGM Grand and tell tyler what the fuck’s going on. Let it be their call. You know? And, they were like, so, how do you feel? Ai like, I feel like I ai make it through the show.
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And they’re like, well, I say let’s just go ahead and do it. You’re you know, it’s a big room. You’re not within six feet of anybody.
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It’s 2025. It’s 2025. You if you told me you had you did tell me you had COVID, and I’d give you a big hug on Monday. I saw
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you on Monday
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Yeah. When we did Kill Tony.
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Right. Ai that was fine.
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Sai super spreader on Kill Tony. You son of a judge.
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Ai an asshole. The biggest asshole ever. It would be sai horrible. Sick. I know. Nobody Nobody got sick. It’s And it wasn’t until the next day that I got sick. That’s when the vomiting started. It wasn’t in Vegas. It was day two. It was Tuesday after Kill Tony. That’s when I got sick. And, and and it was fucking awful. I mean, for two days, just awful.
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Did you get another steroid shot?
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No. Nobody would give me one. So I don’t know, man. I just got the wrong guy to
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You gotta go to Gold’s Gym.
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Yeah. Right. They get
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Find the biggest guy in the room.
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It’s like, who’s your doctor? Something, don’t you?
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You know you got something, bro. Come on, man. Aren’t you a Ron White fan? Give me some fucking steroids.
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Just to get me around the corner. So Yeah. So I’m back. I feel fine today,
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and That’s good.
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And, which is you back. Really good night.
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You come to the club tonight?
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You know, they asked me to I don’t know who’s got the set tonight. I don’t know who’s got the show.
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We do. Fuck it. Let’s go. Okay.
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Let’s go. I’ll go.
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Let’s go, Ron White. Plus, bottom of the barrels tonight too.
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The, Kill Tony was on Netflix
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last night. Isn’t that amazing? I’m so happy. I’m so happy for Tony and Red Band and for everybody on the show. I’m just so happy that that show is now on Netflix.
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It’s speak. You know? I Sai always believed in it, and you know that. And I Yeah. I always saw something in Tony. I don’t I was never sure what exactly it was, but I saw something, you know, that this kid works hard. You know, he’s got a dream that he’s Yeah. Fucking making it work, and he’s making it work with hard work.
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He works hard. He works really hard at that show, man.
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Really does.
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I mean, I call him in the middle of the day ai, and he’s just laying out, like, how he’s gonna do the show, what he’s got. He’s ai, he’s planning it. He’s wandered around his apartment ai notes down, just planning it out in his head. He’s legit.
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He is.
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This is the the thing about success. It’s a product of hard work. And in that example, I fucking know it’s a product of hard work. Those guys did that show every goddamn Monday for ten plus years.
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Starting with six people in the crowd.
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I was one of them. I was there when they were doing the belly room shah, but I always encouraged it. I encourage people to do shows when no one’s watching because I think that, you know, the only way something builds is you gotta get it started. You can’t think you’re gonna launch a podcast and it’s gonna have a million downloads. It’s not that way. And you don’t want it that way anyway.
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You wanna get good at it. You wanna learn how to do it. You wanna iron out the kinks.
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I agree. I agree.
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And they did it. They fucking did it. They did it. Now it’s one of the best shows in the world. It’s the funniest fucking show on television for sure.
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You know, as as far as just a fucking entertaining thing to goddamn do, I mean, just to come down you know, my my last girlfriend was so addicted to the show. She would come almost every Monday. And it’s hard for me to go down there on Kilotony night because they got the, you know, the green ram hocked out to 19,000 people, and there’s no place for me to go.
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And ai,
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so you know? But but she was addicted to it. I mean, just as something fun to do. You know?
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It’s a fun thing to do.
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Because you’re gonna get some great comics. You’re gonna and it doesn’t matter if if if the comic eats it on stage because it’s still funny. You know? That’s not the point. The point is that everybody has access, you know Mhmm. In some way. And, and and there’s no shortcut to get there because I tried to shortcut it because I thought I could because I was Ron Ai.
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And I my banker said, yeah. I’ve been doing stand up, and I’d love to get I’m like, no problem. I’ll tell him. I’ll be like, Ai I’ll fix this for you. And, and, he was like, yeah. Yeah. No. You you can’t. It’s a bucket pull.
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That’s the only way he can do it is to get his name in there in the order.
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It’s a legit bucket pull.
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It is. And
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it really is. And sometimes one of our guys gets in ai a son’s been on a couple of times now, you know, and sometimes not. You put your put your name in the bucket. You will sai. There’s hundreds of names in that bucket. It’s a great idea. It’s sai great idea.
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It is. And it’s inclusive to anybody. I mean, it’s amazing to me who he saw the had the vision to put anybody, anybody, no matter what kind of physical shah. If they you can’t even say a word. Right. And handicapped on top of that. Ai and, you know, just All I
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have to do is just give it a go.
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Give it a go.
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Give it
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a go.
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Try to be funny.
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Yeah.
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Do your best. Just do your best. Yeah. Absolutely. A lot of people doing their best.
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I’m thrilled, I’m thrilled for the success of it.
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It’s incredible.
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Yeah. It really is.
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It’s fun too. It’s ai it makes everything more fun. When when there’s a fun thing like that out there in the world, more more of us have fun. We have more fun at the clubs. We have more more fun talking about comedy.
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Yeah. And then, you know, ai made me really proud too to to I mean, just to walk out on stage, and it’s, you know, it’s you and Shane and and and Segura and and Saloni, and and these are my friends. You know? These are my buddies. This is my tribe right here, and, and we’re doing something really speak, and it’s a fucking hoot.
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You know? It is a fucking hoot.
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It’s a fucking hoot.
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Yeah. And it’s, that club’s the best place for it.
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I had a I had a nightmare the other night. Oh, no. Yeah. And it was, about the club.
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Oh, no.
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And, that I was the headliner that ai. And I got down there, and there were, like, nine 11 year old girls, and that’s all the tickets we could sell. And I was like, did you tell him I was coming? I’m like, yeah. We put it in the thing and, nobody showed up, Ron, except for these chicks.
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If I was your psychiatrist, I’d sit down and go, Ron, what do you think this means to you? What what inside of your subconscious makes you think that only 11 year old girls would come to see you do comedies?
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That’s because for for thirty eight years, I’ve been waiting for the end, You know? And Ai and it finally happened that that night in the middle of that dream scene. I knew it would happen. I knew it.
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Ai that, and it drives me crazy. I don’t understand how you can think like that.
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I just always have because I you know, it it it never works as good as it works for me. You know? I mean, it’s worked okay for you, but, I mean, you know, these ai of careers don’t last forever until unless they do, and there’s not very many of them that do, you know, last fucking four decades.
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It’s a different world now, Ron. I think they do last now.
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I I guess so.
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I think the thing that was going on before was everybody thought you did comedy to get to something. You did comedy to get to the movies. You did comedy to meh to TV. And if you didn’t, then you were a failure. And you thought of yourself as a failure, and other people thought of you as a failure too. And that would diminish your confidence. That would diminish your draw.
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And only a few people survived that and escaped. And a lot of great meh, like Richard Jenny, for instance, he got caught up in that and felt like he was a failure and a loser and ai up fucking killing himself. Meanwhile, he was one of the greatest comics that’s ever lived.
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He never lived.
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He just missed the boat. He missed the Internet boat. He would have been far ai. Missed it too. You didn’t though. But you didn’t. You didn’t miss it. You didn’t. You’ve you caught us. You caught the whole wave, brother. You came to the
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grocery store right now. Catch a I did catch a great wave.
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And it it it’s great for all of us. It we all know each other. It’s great for all of us. There’s no more, you know, waves, like, in in terms of, like, your career is gonna die off. Your career your career is dependent entirely on your work and your work’s never been better.
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No. I Sai don’t think it has.
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It’s never been better. You’re on fire right now.
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You were killing it the other night.
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We were in the green ram, and we’re watching for the saloni, fucking howling. It’s great. It’s great. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be great. Like, you’ve been doing it forever. You love doing it. You’re passionate about it. You work hard. You’re always riding. Of course, it’s great.
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And it’s and it’s fun. You know? It’s the best. It’s there I don’t think there’s any environment that’s more conducive to getting chops than I mean, that really is a gym
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Yeah.
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To meh. And, and everybody there is just getting better. And it’s sai fucking stage time. There’s no fucking substitute for stage time.
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Time. No substitute. Stage stage time and a good tribe.
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Yeah. You gotta ai gotta have that.
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Because everybody’s killing it. Like, when I see Hassan up there killing it, I’m like, oh, let’s go. I get excited. Everybody’s Come a long way. A long way. And you you see these guys like Arya Matty, these young guys coming up. You see all these people in the Cam Patterson on Kill Tony Monday night was on fire. On ai, you see the growth.
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You see these guys emerging and you’re ai, this is incredible. We’re in a we’re so lucky. We’re in the, like, the we have the luckiest job and the luckiest place in the world.
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I think so, man. And if I was a young comic now, I would go to Austin, Texas.
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1 Hundred Percent.
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And ai. Because they’re just all that stage ai. And now you don’t actually automatically get to go to the mother shah, but that can be your goal.
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You can get in there, man. You can get in there if you’re good. You can get in there if you’re good. There’s a lot of guys meh in there. All you have to do a lot of women get in there, a lot of non binary people. All you have to do is just be good. Yep. There’s showcases all the time. Adam’s picking people all the time. People sai you.
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If you’re funny, you shits on the inner it’s ai, the path has never been clearer now for a young comic. I mean, when I was young, starting now, I’m just like, how do you do this? How do you get on stage? How do you get a manager? How do you get paid? How do you do Right. You know, now it’s, like, it’s kinda laid out.
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It is. And and there are people also hanging around ai me that that have been through all this stuff before, you know, the the the growth spot to know how to get better, you know, because I was like you. There was no direction. There was nobody giving advice. There was you know, you just looked at it and went, okay. I’ll Yeah. I’ll try this.
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Yeah. Let’s see. And, But you made it late in life too. You know, that’s probably why you have this thing in your head. Because, like, when did blue collar was, like how old were you when that that tour kicked
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off? 45, I think.
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Yeah. Sai, that’s that’s that’s why. That’s the thing. Do you know who else had that same sort of feel? Phil Hartman. Phil Hartman didn’t get on Saturday Night Live. I think he was 36. That was his first break.
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36?
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Mhmm. Yeah. I’m pretty sure.
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Now did he do stand up also or is he a
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He was going to. He would do some stand up to warm up the crowd sometimes.
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Oh, okay.
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And he would fuck around. And he and I talked about it. And I said, anytime you wanna do it, I’ll go, I’ll take you to the store. I go, you you can get on stage ai. I go, you don’t need a lot of time. You just, like, put together five minutes. I’ll help you. I know you could do it. And he had some really funny impressions. He had a really funny Bill Clinton impression.
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Right.
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He was a funny fucking dude and a hard worker. You wanna talk about a hard worker? That dude used to make me everybody felt like they weren’t a professional when they were on that guy. Sai you’d have, like, tabs and shah, a notebook where all the scenes were, everything was organized.
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Yeah. I already feel unprofessional.
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While he he was doing that, he was also trying to take his pilot’s license. In between scenes, he’d be reading airplane books. Jesus Christ.
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What a fucking tragedy, man. What a fucking tragedy.
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Oh, bro. You don’t know the half of it. I tried to get him to divorce her a long time ago. Ai told him, like, right when he was struggling. I said, man, just give her half. Just get out. You’ll make more money. And he was like, well, it’s not half. It’s a scam. The lawyers get a third.
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Yeah.
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It’s a third. You get a
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third of your fucking money. And I was like, okay. Okay. Okay. Just give her the money. Just give her the money. Money is fun coupons.
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Right.
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If you’re having money and you’re not having fun
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Then what are you
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you gotta cut something off. You know, you gotta figure out what where’s the cancer? Hack it off. Hack off that melanoma, and let’s get this party rolling. Like, you you shouldn’t be involved with someone that you hate. That’s crazy. You come home to someone who hates you. That’s crazy.
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That is insane. That’s crazy. And Ai, you know, and I’ve been in bad relationships before that I that I cut off and Of Of course. And, and then all of a sudden you can breathe again, you know.
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You’re a different person when you’re in a bad relationship. Like, you’re bad too. Like, you’re not your best. Just like a bad friendship. Like, you’re not the best friend if the your friend is a cocksucker. You know, you’re you’re good friends with good friends.
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Right.
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We all inspire each other. And if you got a one way street or if you are one of those unfortunate people that hooked up with a hot lunatic, because that’s the problem. You got a hot lunatic. Right. And they’re sexy and they’re fun for short bursts Right. A few hours at a time and then you’re like, oh, my God.
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This person is in my life. And if you move in with them, oh, Christ.
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I know. And if you
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have kids with them, oh, ai if you’re married to them, oh, Ai. You married a hot lunatic.
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The hole gets deeper and deeper and deeper.
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You ai, you’re Johnny Depp and you’re on TV. Yep. And you’re in the court.
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With the whole thing falling to five pieces.
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Whole thing falling to pieces in front of the whole world because you married a hot lunatic. And that’s the thing about symmetry and beauty and and women who are sexy, they just could trick you. And then and men are so easily tricked or so vulnerable.
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Oh, I’m the I’m the worst. I’m just sai easy to lead me down the road. I’ll just sniff my way. Oh, this is bliss.
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I’m in love. Yeah.
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We’re gonna elope. Fuck it. I don’t care about my money.
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Yeah. She used to, like, insult him at parties and shah, Phil Hartman’s ai. It was really rough. Ai remember we took him we all went to this party once, like, some industry type party, and she was insulting him. And I was like, oh, I just I had to bite my tongue, which I’m not very good at. You know? No.
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And I was like and then, you know, he and I were in his green his little dressing ram. And I was telling him, man, like, there’s another way. You know, if you do, you’re a great guy. Like, you’re a great guy. You’re a lot of fun. You’d be a better person if you’re with someone better.
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Like, you’d feel better about yourself. Like, you can’t be feeling good about yourself.
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Fuck no. Fuck no.
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You gotta you know, but he had kids too, which complicates the fuck out of everything.
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He had kids with her? Mhmm. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. What a horrible fucking story.
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Did I tyler you the story about, like, the worst I ever bombed on stage right after that? Like, easily the worst I’ve ever bombed on stage. Did I ever tell you a story?
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I’ve never seen you bomb on stage.
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I was at the gas station, and, I was getting gas. It was two weeks after he was murdered, and it was the first time I was gonna go on stage again because I was everyone was wrecked. I didn’t even know, like, how long it would take before I felt like I could do comedy again.
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So I’m at the gas station getting gas and, just randomly run into a buddy of mine who’s a cop. And, I go, hey. What’s up? What’s going on, man? He’s like, how you how you doing? You you doing okay? I’m like, man, we’re all fucked up, you know.
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And he goes, did I tell you that I was there? I go, no. You were there? He goes, dude. What?
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He goes, I was there when the kids ran from the mom. I go, what do you mean? He’s like, after she killed herself, she barricaded herself in the after excuse meh. After she killed Phil Hartman, she barricaded herself in the bathroom, and she had the kids in there with her with a gun.
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And a lot of times when moms kill themselves, they’ll kill their kids too. And the cops saw that, and so they kicked open the door. And when they kicked open the door, the kids ran from the mom. The kids ran out of the bathroom, and then the mom blew her brains out.
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21:30
Fuck. I forgot about I forgot about that part of it. I mean, I forgot that she killed herself.
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I’m seeing my friend at the gas station right before I go on stage. I’m going on stage in about forty five minutes.
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21:42
Jesus.
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Yeah. Half hour drive at the Comedy Store. Fifteen minutes before I’m gonna go on stage. And this this is my face. I’m just ai, there’s nothing funny in the world. There’s nothing funny in the world. And then, after I recovered, you know, I took, like, another week off. And then I came back, and I was ai, he would just he would just want me to keep going. I had a dream about him once.
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22:08
It was like the most realistic dream I’ve ever had about anybody in my life, ever in my life. He was sitting a lawn chair, and I ran into him. And I was like, what do you how are you doing? What are you doing? And he’s like, oh, I’m fine. He goes, we made up.
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He goes, it was a lot. He goes, obviously, we had a lot to work out, and he laughed about it. And, I said, well, that’s great, man. And then he pushed the chair back and he was gone. And then I woke up. Ai, he was gone.
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It was the one of the most I’ve had two very realistic dreams in my life that seemed so realistic. They didn’t even make sense. That was one of them, where it was ai, I felt like he was there. I didn’t I didn’t I feel like he wanted me to let it go. It was it was so weird. I felt like, you know, he wanted it’s ai, that’s how he was whenever they would fight.
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Because it like, I’m not I don’t like fights in real which sounds crazy because I commentate on fights, But I don’t like I don’t like conflict. I wish it didn’t exist. The reason why I got good at fighting, like, martial arts is because I was scared of conflict. I don’t like it.
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Ai I understand it, but I don’t think it’s necessary. And I don’t think fighting in a relationship I think that’s the worst. And you screw the people that get in these relationships, they scream and yell at each other and call each other horrible names and but with a lot of people, it becomes a cycle of getting mad at each other and then making up.
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And then the making up sex is ai very addictive to a lot of people. It’s like it’s a different ai of thing. And you get on this weird roller coaster ride of Sai hate you,
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I love you, I hate you,
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I love you. And he was he was on that roller coaster ride and he was letting me know. Like, it just went too far. It went crazy.
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You know, I I lived in Mexico for a while with a with a woman who eventually took her own life. And, I mean, I was already out of the picture for a couple of years and, when that happened. But when I was in Mexico with her, I knew that I was I’ve I’ve I was trapped. Number one, I was I moved down there to start a fucking pottery company because I was frustrated with stand up comedy.
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24:35
They had just cut my the funny bone chain had just cut my pay by a third Ugh. Because they realized that I just worked for them. Oh, boy. And I couldn’t patch this schedule together without them. Oh, what a bunch of assholes.
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24:48
And I I told the guy that that ram the funny bone, Gerald Kubach, to go eat a steaming bowl of fuck. And, Ai I don’t
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even know what that would look like.
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25:01
I don’t know. But it cost me a lot of work to say it, but it was still fun to sai. And Wow. But I moved with her down to Mexico, and and I knew that she was crazy. And I and the way it came up was, she called a a friend of mine and told her that sometimes she stands over my bed with a knife and just stares at meh.
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And I and my son was there also part of the ai. And I’m like, well, that’s over. I gotta get out of this. And but but the the big thing was I was depressed because of my situation because I didn’t see a way out of it. Yeah. You know?
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I didn’t see a way out. Ai just couldn’t see I just couldn’t see a path. And, and it got to where when I was around people, I couldn’t talk and, and and, you know, I did I had no tribe, you know, at all. I was cut off from all my friends and and it’s just something I did to myself with that move down to Mexico, which I was there for three years.
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Wow. And, and it was just the worst time of my life, and I really didn’t think I’d ever come out of it. I mean, I never never thought I could even get back to a place where I could sit down and have a conversation with somebody. That’s how depressed I was. Wow. And and when I it was funny because I I moved into Mexico.
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I had the biggest truck that Ai makes pulling the biggest trailer they make, my van pulling the biggest trailer they make, all headed down south.
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All your shit.
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To everything moved to Mexico.
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Why Mexico?
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26:34
Because my girlfriend at the time did this mosaic tile application to existing pottery, and she would sell it at art shows or craft shows, you know, whatever. And it would sell really fast, but it took her six months to make any of it. So I thought, why wouldn’t you just go down to Mexico and train a bunch of women how to make it ai let her orchestrate it?
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And and I fucking did it. I I was part of that sucking sound that Ross Perot was talking about going to Mexico. Three Years later, I had the exact same equipment headed on, north out of Mexico with sai exact truck, trailer, everything. Meh, that was a bad idea. Three years.
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And, Wow.
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But but She was ai. Once I oh, she was so hot. Oh, she was so hot. And I’d never been with a a hot woman before. I had never been with I mean, that was my girl. You know? Yeah. And, she was just so she was so beautiful. I’m like, I’m gonna I’ll be with her even though I hate her just so I can look at her. You know?
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Because I just stare at her, and that’ll be enough. That’s all I need. Turns out Ai needed a little more than that. So but,
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You can only tolerate so much.
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And then, and I ended up marrying this other girl that was horrible. I meh, I mean, I I know she’s probably listening to this right now, so I don’t mean horrible, but horrible. And, but she always searched the Internet for things about me so she could say, hey. This person said thanks for signing my girlfriend’s tickets.
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What, you out there signing girlfriend’s tickets? Oh, yeah. I’ll sign anybody’s ticket. You know, just always looking. Every time she’d turn on her computer, it’d make me sick to my stomach because I didn’t know what she was gonna come up with. You know?
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I’m no angel anyway. And, but so that girl’s sister, when she killed herself, sent me a post that that that my ex wife found. She printed it saying that she killed herself. She brought it in and handed it to meh. And all I did was sit down on the couch, and she goes, oh, now you loved her. I’m like, just give me a minute. Okay?
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Just give me a minute. Her sister doing this to
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me? This is my wife. Oh, geez. She got the note from her. She got
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the letter from her sister and handed
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it to meh, and she saw it affected me. And
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she’s like Jesus.
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Oh, now you loved her.
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Jesus Christ. Shah are you supposed to do? Yeah. A lady that you used to live with, kill herself. Yeah. What the fuck?
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Yeah. Just give me a minute. Give me a minute. Yeah. Give me a minute.
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Jesus. It’s a human being that you know that killed themselves. How many people do you think you’ve know that have killed themselves?
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Oh, man. Let’s see. Not very many that I really knew. My best friend, one of my best friends from childhood killed himself and, but we thought he died at the massacre in Waco because that’s he was a big Koresh guy.
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Oh, boy. He missed the massacre?
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Yeah. He missed the massacre, but we thought he would we we thought maybe he’s there when it was all going up going down, but he wasn’t. And, and, eventually, it was an odd thing anyway. He was he’s a he’s a dear friend from childhood. His dad was the music director at my church, and he and I used to bluff buff the floors of the church with those big bluff.
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That was our our job on one day a week that we’d go down there. And we’d actually sing Neil Young songs to the top of our lungs because we we Ai, I dreamt us all the nights, you know. We just sing the fuck out of Neil Young songs. That’s the only tape I had. You know?
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I I know you and him had a little problem, but
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I don’t have no problem with that.
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I know. You were so sweet about that.
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I love that guy. I love his music. He just had he didn’t get it.
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No. He didn’t. That’s all he is. That was a that was a dumb thing.
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Well, he just missed. He didn’t understand what was happening and nobody did. I don’t blame him. Nobody did. I’d I’d talk to him in a heartbeat. Even though he pulled his music and tried to get meh removed from Spotify. Right. That was a I still don’t care. I love that guy.
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And I loved his music. Even after he did it, I still listened to his music. He just got he missed he didn’t know what was happening. He got tricked. Well, a lot of people got tricked, you know. A lot of people thought that this was the only way out.
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We had to listen to these evil ai fucks that were telling us that everybody had to take this vaccine. There’s no other medicine available. And if you didn’t, everybody was gonna die. And, you know, he got caught up in it. They got us all, though. They got the whole country.
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You can’t be mad at the whole country. Right. That’s crazy.
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Right. Sai
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don’t wanna be mad at anybody anymore, Ron White.
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I don’t either.
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As I get older, I’m less and less inclined. There’s people I don’t wish to talk to. Right. I’m like, I don’t need that in my life. I don’t need whatever you bring in my life, but I don’t wish you bad.
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Yeah. I have really, really healthy boundaries when it comes to people that don’t make me feel good. You know? I just don’t I just won’t hang around.
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Yeah. I don’t wanna be around them and confront them. Like, who cares?
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Yeah. No. Good luck to you.
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I’ll give you a hug.
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I got some other shit going on.
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Yeah. I have friends.
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But you know what? I Ai tell you what what makes you a good friend. When you get successful, and I’ll just talk about successful like I am, it’s hard to find anybody that’ll disagree with you, you know, that, because there’s something to gain. And and that’s true with you too. I mean, that, you know, you you hold a lot of power, and and you have something a lot of people fucking want.
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And I know that because I have a I have a box of and I should have brought them and given them to you anyway. I’ll bring them to the club tonight, ai it’s just a guy I met that owns a sunglass company. And he makes sunglasses for hunting. And he Oh. And so he said Wait
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a minute. Who wears sunglasses when they hunt?
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I don’t know. Nobody?
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You can’t wear them when well, I guess maybe some people probably do. I bet rifle hunters do.
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Yeah. They he said that one of them were specifically for bow hunting that makes you see the target better or something. Interesting.
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Okay. So he’s got an invention.
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Ai, you know, I don’t know. I I don’t hunt, so I don’t really know anything about hunting and glasses. He just said he’s gonna send a box. Would you give them to Joe? And I said, yeah. I’ll give them to him, And I didn’t. So
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I would think the glasses would get in the way because the you know, when you shoot with a bow, there’s a thing called a peep sight. So you have your string, and in your string is, what one of the things that’s sewn into your string is this little plastic circle.
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Sure.
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Do you know what it is? Yeah. Okay. So you know it lines up with the scope, the housing of the bow? No.
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Ai don’t know that.
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So where the peep ai is when you draw back and you you don’t look through through the string, you look to the circle that’s on the string. It’s sewed into the string. And that circle, you line it up exactly with your ai housing. And so where your pin is, it’s all about, like, staying calm and keeping that pin there, and you wanna keep it all, like, connected together.
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So my eyes, like, right there, like, right next to this this this peep ai, if I had glasses, it might get in the way. You know what I mean? Like, because the string is touching my nose and the thing is right there. And I’m just drawing back and I’m looking at it like that ai through.
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I’ll give them to you. See what you think.
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I don’t know anybody who should but I knew I know some hunters that have glasses, so it must be a way to adjust.
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I don’t know. I don’t know. That’s what he told me, though.
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Okay. Ai try it
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out. Alright.
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I’m open to anything. You never know. And anything that makes you good at that, there’s that’s a fucking difficult thing to do. You know? Like, if I meet a guy and he’s like, I’m a bowhunter. I’m like, oh, okay.
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34:42
Oh, ai, what I was saying is this.
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Go ahead.
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What I’m saying is this, that that you’re one of the only friends that I have that’ll say, no. That’s fucked up. Right? You you you you don’t agree with me to make me feel better because you have something Ai I have something you need.
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Right.
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You know, you’ll go ahead and go,
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Well, that green room’s great for that. Mhmm. A lot of because everybody knows that everybody loves everybody. So everybody can just talk openly about anything, you know. Ai, and if you have, like, some dumb argument with someone, someone will come in and go, Ai think he’s right. Yeah.
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Yeah. And you gotta go, oh,
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really? What? Okay. Let me think about it. You need that in your life.
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You do.
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You don’t wanna be a tyrant. No. You know, and that’s what happens to a lot of successful people is they get real insecure, and so they become kind of a tyler, and they don’t wanna listen to anybody else. You know, you see that with people that are, like, on shows, they run the shah. It’s the show’s all about them. You know, they’re the show.
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And they’re, you know, they’re the producer and executive producer, and the cast all kisses their ass, and they’re at the top of the fucking casting call or whatever it is. Fucking The call sheet. Yeah. It’s a bad place to be. You don’t wanna be there. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. You just you gotta resist the urge.
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So I went back to, my Ayahuasca place Uh-oh. Down in, Costa Rica. Sai I I went four years ago. Right? And, and that’s when I quit drinking. Right. Which you know I did. Right? You know I quit drinking.
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I quit too. When? A month ago.
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38:01
I knew that you weren’t drinking.
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Yeah. But I didn’t know Stop drinking.
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I didn’t know that it was a
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Yeah. I think I’m done. Yeah. For no reason other than it’s not good for you.
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Yeah.
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No. I didn’t have to. I enjoyed it.
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Right. No. You were having a good time. I was watching.
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But the the days after drinking were just too rough. And I’m like, what what kind of a moron who takes so good care of his body is poison himself a couple of days a week for fun? You know, why am I doing that? And then I’m like, well, will I have the same amount of fun if I don’t poison myself? Turns out, yes.
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38:35
Exactly. Ai. Well, there’s more than one way to skin a cat. I mean, you haven’t Yeah. Quit everything. Right?
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I mean Exactly.
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Yeah. And I’m just skinning the cat a different way.
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Tell me about your cat. Well, I’m gonna play some Eco Rose. Did they play those while you went through the there we go. Jamie’s got them already.
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So what’s that?
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This is the songs that a lot of the shaman like to play while you’re tripping balls.
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39:00
Oh, okay.
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And if they play the song while you’re under the influence, the hallucination will dance to the songs.
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39:09
Oh, wow.
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It’s there’s certain songs you’re like, I don’t get it. Like the Grateful Dead, I’ve never been on acid at a dead concert. But they say, if you are, you get it. So ai I’m missing that part. Right. You know? So So to me, it’s ai it’s just this jam music, which is fine, but I’d rather listen to Skynyrd. You know what I mean?
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39:29
I saw Skynyrd Monday or Sunday ai. And it was The original
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Skynyrd, the real Skynyrd before the plane crashed.
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39:36
No. I’m just saying. These guys are putting the show together. I’m sure. Ricky Medlock, playing Allen Collins’ play. They have two other guitar players, and but it is a band. Ai mean, they are nailing this shit. I had tears coming out ai eyes during fucking Freebird for a lot of reasons. Number one, I saw him in ’73.
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39:59
Me and Steve Cook, who was my best friend till the day he died. Sana, and Ronnie Van Zandt was lighting joints, and he was handing them out into the crowd. Well, me and Steve had worked our way up to the front. He handed one of them to me, and everybody else was taking a hit.
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40:15
I just stuck it in my pocket and, and and went in the bathroom and smoked it because we’re cutting. It was illegal then, and I was listening to skit. Well, Sunday night, I’m at the Skinner shah. There’s cops where I was, and there was outhouses right next to it where you go through this fence.
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And I told my girlfriend, I’ll be right back. And I was over there. I was in the outhouse smoking a joint, listening to the Skinner. Ai like, well, I haven’t changed much in fifty fucking years, you know, the exact same thing. So
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Some some songs, people just nail it, and it stays great forever. Yeah. You never get tired of Freebird. But there’s guitar saloni.
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Yeah. And and they just fucking hammered it home. I mean, it was so good Oh, nice. That it was just I I couldn’t believe it, you know. Ai I brought him on stage at the Greek one time, maybe twenty years ago or fifteen years ago. I don’t know. And, it was fun because I got to I got to say that what you know, when I was 16 years old, we were at the Scared Shah, and we had taken enough mushrooms to kill an average teenager, but we weren’t average teenagers.
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And, ai and gentlemen, scattered. It was great fun.
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That’s cool.
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And, so it kinda brought back all those memories, you know, but when then watching him play it again, It’s kind of it’s weird because especially when I come back from Rythmia, which is my place out there, that Ai I always come back emotional Right. And, and kind of full of love and forgiveness and those kinds of things. That’s quite kind of what I learned from, from those hallucinogens. Yeah.
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And, you know Isn’t
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it crazy that that’s illegal?
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41:54
Yeah. To to to feel good.
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You gotta go to another country to be a better
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42:00
person. Yeah. You gotta go
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to another you gotta leave the land of the free. Right. Leave the land of freedom to go to another country that’s much more lawless and and taking the divine and come back a better person.
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It’s and it’s crazy. And and I also and I don’t think it’s for everybody, you know. I I’m I’m not somebody out there just going, yeah, you gotta you gotta do this. Because I think you have to be open to some things.
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Yeah.
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You know? You have to be open to, hey. Maybe I’m wrong about everything. You know? Maybe there is If
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you’re not open to it, you’ll get hit hard.
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42:36
Well, and that’s why it’s not for everybody ai I, you know, I’ve seen people wig down there Mhmm. And and which is why Ai I you know, I know you can get Ayahuasca locally and have they have, you know, people that are I don’t know where they got their shaman title from, but you can do it here.
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Yeah. But I know that there, you know, it’s a licensed medical facility with doctors. It’s the only one in the world that’s a licensed medical facility. And, it’s and they’re prepared when people wig. You know? They know what to do.
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They know how to hold you down?
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43:12
Yeah. Would and they do too. They they all fucking bind you up and wait till it to to clear because they know that you’re at a point in this that you’re going through some heavy shit. One of them was an NFL player last time I was there, and this guy was fucking huge. Plays for Buffalo. And, and he just and I was like, god.
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If if you had to pick somebody to wig, you would say, please don’t let it be that fucking dude.
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Did he wig?
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He wigged. Oh, no. He wigged big ai. Oh, no. And and started just screaming, get the fuck away from me. Oh, no. Which will you know, that kind of, you know, you got 70 people in this room that are tripping and so
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Oh, no. What a what a bummer.
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And it was. And but they’ve got big guys too.
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Oh, there you go.
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And, so they just got him out of the room, got him calm down, and he didn’t leave. You know? He he just he was going through some shit. The first time I went there, this girl from Japan started kicking and screaming, and they took her ai, and they had to fucking subdue her.
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But at the end of the day, the person with the biggest smile on their face was her, because she worked through some shit that I can’t even talk about that I happen to know what it was, but it ain’t worth knowing. And, but she found pure fucking joy and peace in her life, and you could see it in her face. You know?
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And I was wondering why when she was wigging out, why is nobody flipping out but me? Because the people that weren’t there weren’t flipping out at all because they’ve seen it. Yeah. And there’s nothing they haven’t seen. There’s been 18,000 people through that facility, and so they’ve seen it all.
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Right.
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And, but they just know how to they know how to handle it. Well, I wonder if you’re just in some mansion in Beverly Hills or whatever, if there’s somebody there that knows how to handle it.
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Probably not.
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Probably
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not. Probably not. Especially if you don’t know what you’re gonna hit get hit with.
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Yeah. And you need to be, in a really safe place where people know how to guide you through it.
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Yeah.
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You know, you don’t it’s not something Ai think you wanna grab a handful of and go sit in a fucking closet, you know, and try to figure it out for yourself. So
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That’s the real weirdness of any kind of a psychedelic journey is that you’re probably gonna be going through some shit And someone could either manipulate you during that time or help you during that time.
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Right.
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And there are people that will manipulate you.
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Absolutely. And and that’s why, you know, that that’s why I go to this place that’s not that easy to go to just because it’s so safe. Mhmm. You know, it’s just it’s set up perfectly for what they’re trying to do, and, and it was it was this guy’s dream to do that, to make it accessible to regular people.
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So back then when he opened up, you had to go to a corrugated tin shack in Peru or wherever to get this stuff. And he said, I wanna make a place that’s safe to go, and people feel comfortable and, you know, so
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Isn’t it kinda crazy that that’s illegal? I mean, it’s kinda the weirdest thing of all time that we haven’t just as a society went, okay, why are all these people going to these places? Okay. When they come back, do they have positive experiences? Does it help them? Yeah. A lot of them. Okay. Why don’t we do that here? It should be that simple.
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Should be that simple.
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It should be so simple.
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Yeah. There was a guy there that was on a scholarship they had for, basically, wounded warriors that are going through heavy PTSD. There’s an organization that is that’s sending guys to arrhythmia. And, so and I I got to talk to him a lot while he was there, and he was a ai. And but and he was he was fucked up.
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And, but I kinda got to watch his transformation a little bit, watch this ai coming around. And I’d seen that, and I’d seen the transformation in myself where I could just not be so angry and not be and not hold all this hate, you know, that that I that it that takes so much energy to fucking control and to have them really show me a way to let all that stuff go, you know, to, and to be a happier person, you know, that, it and it’s hard to I really don’t understand Ayahuasca, so it’s really hard to explain it to somebody else, you know, but, but I
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don’t think anybody really understands it.
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Yeah. Right. And I know there’s some stuff that’s stronger than that, but I don’t know That’s crazy. That I don’t know what it’s called. What
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Ibogaine, you mean?
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Is that what it is?
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Ibogaine is the one that people use for addiction. There’s a place called Beyond that’s in Mexico that does that. Rick Perry was telling us about that. A lot of, former governor Rick Perry
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is
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a part of that. He really wants to bring, Ibogaine to Texas and have treatment centers.
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Eat gambling here.
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I think they can get Ibogaine. I think especially with a Republican ai Rick Perry who’s really concerned about the mental health of veterans because I think that’s where it really shines. Ibogaine in particular helps a lot of people. Vatsal lot it gives you, like, a review of your life. Apparently, I’ve never experienced it.
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But the people that have have very positive things to say about it, and it’s incredibly good at helping people get over addictions. It has a very high success rate. For one treatment, I think it’s in the eighty percent. And then for if you do two treatments, it’s it’s in the mid nineties.
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That’s fucking amazing.
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Yeah. People that never go back to the drugs. Never never go back to whatever it is, gambling, whatever you have, whatever’s wrong with you.
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All you gotta do is figure out what’s wrong with you.
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Yeah. You gotta figure out why you’re doing that. Like, what is this pathway that I keep going down that’s sabotaging my whole life, and why why can I not resist it? Why do I keep reaching for the bottle? What is it? Why do I keep snorting Coke? What is it? What is it?
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Well, that was the question I had with myself. It’s because I ram like a fool for years. You don’t say. It was funny because whenever I I was single again, and I was in the green ram, and I said, maybe I’ll start drinking again. And everybody at one time went, no. Yeah.
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No. No. No. No.
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No. That’s not ai. I was I was just kidding. I was just kidding.
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Well, you quit like that, though. You did, like you were gone.
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I did. And, but but I went to to to read me with intention. I wanted to know why I was doing this to myself and why I could not see a way to quit. And it was so tied up in my persona, my stage presence, who I really was at the time. And I’m like, why is this all tied to meh, and why can’t I shake it?
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And and so with that, Ai also went through hypnosis because I had to get sober before I went to, because that’s not what their deal is. They’re not a treatment facility. It could be a byproduct of it, but they’re like, yeah. We’re we’re not gonna we we don’t have detox here.
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You know what I’m saying? You have to quit some other way. And and and then once you’ve been sober for a month, you can come down here, which is exactly what I did. I came up with a way to do that through hypnosis, which I thought was pretty effective. And and but I got sober once before in one of those rehabs in Malibu for ai, and which was at the time, I was spiraling. You know?
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I was I was living in a five star hotel in Beverly Hills. I was doing a bunch of blow. I was screwing expensive hookers, which is exactly my life plan. You know? Ai so I’m like, okay. Here it is. This is and it ended up feeling pretty hollow.
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You know? And I I ended up going there. And, and I stayed sober for about maybe six months or something like that, but it was white knuckle the whole fucking time of, you know, no fun. But when I when I did it the way I did it, when I checked into that facility, I got to sweat night sweats so bad when I quit that I would they had two beds in the new people’s things, and I would soak the sheets in one of them and move to the other bed and soak the sheets in that one.
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I was detoxing big time. Never happened this time. I never had a night sweat, never regretted it, never thought about it again, never tempted Wow. To drink again. And and, you know, ai I I I own number one tequila still, and and it’s there at the green room every night.
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And I’m not even it doesn’t even bother me a bit.
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That’s interesting. And So that’s what the big fear a lot of people have is how will I still be around bars?
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Right. And it you know, and and and, yeah, is it a little awkward at first? Yes. And do I hang out in bars all the time other than our club? No. I don’t. I mean, I I’ll go listen to music if there’s some but just to go to a bar and hang out, I just don’t do it. Right.
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And, for whatever reason.
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Well, it’s not that much fun being around drunks when you’re sober.
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No. It’s really not.
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I You gotta be in the vibe of the drunks to appreciate drunk talk. Yeah. When you’re sober and someone’s drunk and they’re telling you some fucking story about their boss being a douchebag, it’s ai, woah.
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Right. So and I also have a tendency, a natural tendency to just kinda isolate anyway. You know? And so I I really that’s one of the things I love about the club is it gets me out of the house. It gets me to go down there where my friends are and do what I do for a living and Ai what I do for a living and what I do for fun, both.
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I think a lot of people have that problem, that isolation problem. You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because I think that Ai I think that that people like you and I, I think, a lot is a lot gets dumped on us, you know, because I’m the of all the friends that I know that I’ve known for a long ai, I’m the only one that has that’s been very successful, not out of my comic friends, but out of my regular friends.
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And and, and it seems like I get just Ai have to take in a lot of stuff, and I never knew how to get rid of it. So I would just get to the point where I was full and I couldn’t take anymore, and that’s when I would isolate myself.
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Right. Too many people want something from me.
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Too meh people want something. That’s why I gravitate towards you is because I know you don’t want jack shit ram me except for me to be your bryden. And, let us be brothers in comedy and whatever. So And life. And life. And so, you know, so that’s really good for me even today. You know?
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That’s what gets me out of the house sometimes. You know?
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Oh, me too. And I mean, I love being home. I love being home with my family, hanging out. But my comedy family, I love being around too. And that’s what I feel like. I feel like when especially when comics are in town that I don’t get to see that often.
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Oh, it’s cool shah.
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Oh, we all hang out together. It’s beautiful.
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Who are those two actors that were at the club the other day? It was so much fun to have them in there.
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The, the it was Which night?
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Fuck. I don’t know. We we we get a lot of visitors.
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When when Woody was there?
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No.
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Ai, I’m not
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Will Arnett and Brad Cooper. Yeah. Brad Cooper and well, it was fun to have him in the green ram because, you know, we we’ve we we all we’re all around each other all the time. So I just wanted to have a new people in there with the with stories we’ve never heard. Oh, I wasn’t there
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for that one.
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Yeah. It was it was cool as shit, you know, just to have them hanging out, you know, just good ai. You know?
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Woody was there. You weren’t here when Woody was here?
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No.
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Oh my god. He was so much fun. He’s so fun.
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Did he do your show?
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No. Ai did yeah. He did my shah. And but then this that was nights before that, and he just wanted to come to the club. He’s been to the club a couple of times now.
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Harrelson? Yeah. Oh, Sai didn’t know that.
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Yeah. He’s just been hanging out.
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Fuck. I always wanted to meet that guy.
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Oh, he’s so nice. We just all hung out in the green room, and he was just, like, one of the boys. It was so easy.
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How fucking cool is that?
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So cool. So he’s so easy to talk to. Sai, like, and talks to everybody the same way. He’s, like, so easy. He’s just a genuine dude. He don’t even have a phone. You can’t even get a hold of him.
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Really?
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Yeah. Ai don’t have a phone. Doesn’t have he doesn’t do email. Fuck you.
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Hell shit. Yeah. He’s ai
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a got an assistant that handles everything. Yeah. It’s probably a freeing thing, you know, just just be just stop. Just stop. Leave me alone.
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Right. You know? Well, I don’t answer emails anyway.
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But it’s also, like, let me know what I actually let me think about what I think about things instead of being inundated by all these other people’s thoughts constantly all day long, which is valuable. It’s good to get other people’s perspectives on things. I think it enriches you. But at a certain point in time, you come become captive to it.
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And I think there’s just too many people that are captive to other people’s thoughts.
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I think so too. That’s why I’m so closed minded. Ai I really am. I’m truly closed ai, and I think you’re open ai.
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And I try to be.
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And and I and I and I struggle with that because just letting people pour information into my head Yeah. You know, I just Ai I just tend to avoid it. I I I am engaged, you know, in that I I do follow things closely and, not the stock market, but everything else. But, you know, that’s been a little
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bit easier. Don’t follow the stock market right now. It’s so baffling. It’s so crazy. Like, what is going on? Like, the whole world’s mad at us. Trump’s playing golf. And in between, swings, he’s on the phone with presidents of countries. Yeah. We’re gonna need more money.
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Yep. That’s what somebody told me the other day. Ai, is he playing checkers? Is he playing chess? He’s playing golf.
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He’s playing golf. Ai, what does that mean? Everybody wants to think there’s some, like, grand plan to it. Well, they think the grand plan is look, you the you know, we remember back when, the was it the ninety two elections when Ross Perot was in? Mhmm. So when Ross Perot laid out what happened do you remember during that debate where Ross Perot laid out what happened with the tariffs?
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So that, like, they when we try to sell stuff over there, we get a a high tariff. It’s like a 35% tariff, but they don’t get tariffs when it comes over here. It’s not the same. It’s not like, you know, you ai, there’s a tax on everybody if you sana sell your goods to encourage people to buy American products.
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If you wanna sell your products in America Sure. We get a tax. That tax goes to the fucking grid or whatever the hell they’re fixing with it.
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Right.
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Ross Perot was laying it out. Like, this is how all the jobs went to Mexico because have you ever seen that, Jamie? I don’t know. It’s it’s see if you could find it. It’s a great speech because Ross
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Perot talked about the giant sucking sound?
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Yes. You you actually mentioned that earlier
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in the fall. Ai about.
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Yes. That’s it. That’s funny. Did you see that recently or something?
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No. I just remember it.
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Oh, boy. The giant sai let’s
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He would have been a great president.
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He would have ai voted for him.
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He had, big ears. You know, he he didn’t come across us on TV. He was an independent.
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And nobody was voting for independent. By the way, they changed the whole way debates work after this because it used to be if you got 5% of the vote in the primary that you could be a part of the presidential debates. And, that’s not the case anymore. Or it was 5% in a poll. I forget what the number was that you had to reach, but it wasn’t a high threshold.
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And then you could be a part of the debate, and they changed the shit out of that after this because Ross Perot tanked it. They thought h w was gonna go for a second term.
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Right.
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And meanwhile, Ross Perot fucked it up because a lot of people that would have voted for Bush voted for Ross and the people that were already gonna vote for Clinton voted for Clinton and Clinton won. Bill, play this, Jim.
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$13, 14 dollars an hour for factory workers. And you can move your factory south the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire young 20 let’s assume you’ve been in business for a long time. You’ve got a mature workforce. Pay a dollar an hour for your labor, have no health care, that’s the most expensive single element, making a car, have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement, and you don’t care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going on.
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There it is. Right there.
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Let’s see. If if
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the people send me to watch, the first thing I’ll do is study that 2,000 page agreement and make sure it’s a two way street. I one last point here. I’ve called I’ve decided I was dumb and didn’t understand it, so I called the who’s who of the folks who’ve been around it. And I said, why won’t everybody go south? Ai sai, we’ll be disrupted. I said, for how long?
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I finally got them up for twelve to fifteen years, and I said, well, how does it stop being disrupted? And that is when their jobs come up from a dollar an hour to $6 an hour ai ours go down to $6 an hour, then it’s leveled again. But in the meantime, you’ve wrecked the country with these kinds of deals.
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Jesus Christ. He was right. What a fucking smart man.
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He was right. And that’s exactly what happened. American manufacturing collapsed. Yeah. And they did it all for money, and they did it all because they were greedy. They were already rich.
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Right.
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And if we could’ve just gotten those motherfuckers some Ayahuasca
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Jesus Christ, they’d have smoothed the fuck out, man.
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They ai said, oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Yeah. Let’s be nice.
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Let’s make America great again.
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I don’t understand the trade war with with Canada because have you ever met a Canadian that had 35 in his pocket? No. They’re all broke. They have $22. That’s and they’ll buy you a beer. You know? I love Canadians. I’ve always yeah. They’re broke. They don’t have any money up there.
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How come they don’t have any money?
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Because they’re because it it’s socialism. You know? They just they I think it’s a great place. Don’t you love Canada?
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I love it. Well, they have socialized medicine, but it’s not it’s a capitalist society.
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It is, but socialized meh. And it’s expensive. So they
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What how much what percentage of the Canadians speak in taxes?
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So I don’t know.
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Let’s find that out. What is, what’s the Canadian tax rate? Ai know it’s higher than Americans.
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I know mine’s a bitch.
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And when you go over there, you have to pay taxes too. Like, if you do a gig.
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Yeah. You have to pay taxes.
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Yeah. You pay Canadian taxes on your gig.
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And you get paid in Canadian dollars. I don’t I’m not going up there much for shows. Yeah. But, you
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know So here it is. Canadian Canada’s top federal income tax rate is 33%, while The US is 37%. Right. However, when combining federal, provincial, state taxes, Canadians often face higher marginal rates across various income levels. That’s interesting that theirs is only 33%, ours is 37.
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I thought ours was lower than theirs.
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I thought ours was 40.
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Well, it is when you get to a certain tax bracket. Correct? Isn’t it? Ours changes when you get higher. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. That was it does.
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33% on the portion over $246,000. What’s, what’s ours in terms of, like, the highest tax bracket? What’s the highest US is it 37? That’s what it is? What’s really crazy to me is when people say the rich should pay more taxes. Okay. Fine. But where do you think that’s going? Where is that going?
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Where is the money going? Is the money’s going to the federal government? Do you think they’re good at it? Do you think they’re good at managing your money? Have you paid attention to all the shit Elon’s fucking uncovered? 37% is when you make over $609,000 a year. That’s you, motherfucker.
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Hell, that’s that’s me last month.
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This is the thing. It’s ai, I’m happy to pay tax if I thought that they were doing a great job. But it’s just you arya being strong armed into giving money to people that do a really shitty job of protecting your money and and and investing it in the country. It’s a lot of it is going to bureaucracy and bullshit and a bunch of things that you don’t have any sai in.
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If you could, like, opt out of it. If you could, like imagine if you, like, pick what you you know, if you had, like, a whole tax sheet, would you like your money to go to? Would you like your money to go to, overthrowing governments? No. Like, what if the federal government’s budget was entirely based on the will of the people?
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Like, you get to choose. Like, how much of your money you wanna put into drone strikes in Yemen? I sai, I don’t want zero
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of
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my money going to that. You know, how many how much money do you want to go to this or that or clean water? Okay. Clean water sounds good. You know, how much infrastructure? Fuck, yeah. Fix the streets.
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Well, I’m kind of, I I agree with you and I and I’ve just heard you say this that, you know, that everybody should have access to health care and education.
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A %.
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And, The whole country. The whole country. Everybody that that would rise us all up.
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100%. Less losers.
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Yeah.
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That’s how you make America great. Less losers. Less people that are saddled down with a lifetime of debt because they broke their leg. That’s crazy.
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Yeah. All ai, you know, all my son’s, friends are all saddled with $90,000 worth of fucking student loan debts. And, ai. And my son was lucky enough to that I had enough money to pay for his, you know, and, and so he doesn’t have that bryden. But goddamn it, nobody should have that burden if for an education.
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It’s
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And it’s just a for profit institution that roped you into thinking that that was necessary, that you have to be. And ai the way, you can get as good in education right now online as is available anywhere on Earth.
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If you have the discipline If
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you have the discipline. Right. Yeah. That’s what’s so wild. That’s what’s so fascinating about this time is that it is basically obsolete, and yet people are still paying $70,000 a year for it and more. Like, what what does Harvard cost? How much is shah what’s Harvard’s yearly tuition, Jamie? What do you guess? I was at least 50.
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Yeah. At least 50. I’d
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Imagine if you’re a middle class guy and you got two kids and they do real good and they don’t have scholarships and you gotta pay for them?
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I can’t imagine. I mean, I I I don’t see how people do it. I mean, I really don’t.
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Barely do it. Oh, boy. The total cost of attendance include, including fees, housing, and food reaching around $82,000. Undergraduate tuition is $56,550 for a year. That’s a lot of money, man.
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Oof. That’s one year. Oof. And if you drop out after one year, then then you have nothing and you’re down $80.
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But if you make it through those four years, now you’re $200 in the hole that you owe. And then you have to get a job, and then you get a job that pays 50. And you’re like, what? Yeah. Oh, my god.
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I’ll never pay this off. Ai.
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I’ll never pay this off.
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And then you have to throw a couple of kids on top of that and and Yeah.
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You know, some ai there’s people out there, their Social Security is getting docked because they owe student loans. So they take money out of your Social Security to pay for your student loans because the student loans is the one thing you can never escape.
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Bankrupt it. Which is
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so crazy. It’s cruel. It doesn’t make any sense. You’re saddling an 18 year old with the burden of a lifetime. Harvard were off of free tuition for families earning $200,000 or less a year. Oh, that’s great.
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To who?
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That’s a new thing.
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It to who? You can’t even get into Harvard.
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Right. But it’s still good. Will be free for students, families earning $200,000 or less a year. College announced Monday. Harvard has long sought to open our doors to the most talented students no matter their financial circumstances. That’s great.
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Yeah. It is.
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That’s great. I just don’t know if it’s necessary. I think it’s probably necessary for kids to go to school just to, like, a passage, a rite of passage, you know. Like, I think ceremonies and rites of passages are missing in our society. Yeah. And especially Mhmm. I could speak for young men. They don’t know when they’re a man.
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Like, am I a man yet? Am I a like, there’s some men that, you know, in their thirties, their dad’s still yelling at them.
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Right. You know
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what I mean? It’s like, when am I when am I a man? When am I an equal? When am Ai, you know, we don’t have a ceremony. You know, in other tribal societies and all all throughout history, people have had rituals, ai of passage rituals, where people feel like, okay, we fucking made it, you know.
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I give a black belt ceremony. You got your black belt. Alright.
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Right. I
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made it, you know. I’m in. But, you know, that’s so I think there’s a benefit in that society. But then you gotta, like, unlearn all this shit your fucking crazy professors are telling you.
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Did you go to college?
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Yes. I went to UMass Boston.
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Oh, wow. That’s sai good school. Yeah. Ai.
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Easy to get into. I was I only went because I didn’t want people thinking I was a loser. That’s the only reason why I went. I just wasted my time there. I went for three years. Just wasting my time taking class so I could tell people I was going to college.
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Oh, I didn’t waste any time. I I got kicked out of high school in the tenth grade. So, you know, my mind is an open book there. There’s a lot of the pages aren’t filled in. And I you know what? And I I always kind of I I regret I regret that a little bit, you know, that that I didn’t go to college, that I didn’t What do
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you regret about it?
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Well, just you know, I I well, I number one, I think I’d be smarter. I but I I don’t know what it is. And I and you and I’ve I’ve made it just fine with what I’ve had. You know? And, and, you know, I’ve got attention deficit disorder and, and all these things. It really kept me from doing traditional schoolwork very well. I’m not even sure that’s real.
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Attention deficit disorder? Yeah.
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I don’t think it’s real.
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You don’t? No. Let me change your mind.
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I think there’s a lot of people that aren’t interested in a lot of things. But when they’re interested in when I when they say attention deficit disorder, why are those guys so good at video games? Like, why are they so good at things that aren’t school? I think it’s just you I think the I think we could categorize it into a bunch of different, like, disorders and problems and but Ai think a lot of that is a way to get you hooked on some sort of pharmaceutical drug that’s gonna fix whatever problem you have that doesn’t allow you to sit in class and listen to some boring shit for fucking six hours.
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Right. You
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got no problem writing jokes, Ron White. No. You got no problem performing. Like, it’s it’s not like there’s not a thing that you can’t excel at that you can you can pay attention when you’re
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on stage. I don’t know. I don’t know about that. I think stand up comedy was the answer to every problem I had. No. You’re just Because that’s what I was good at.
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You’re a comic. You’re you are a comic. Like, that’s who what you’re supposed to do.
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But but let me give you an example. That’s my point
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is that there’s a lot of different, like, functions in society. There’s a lot of different roles in society.
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I think they probably tag ADD to people that don’t have it, but I know that I still have it. So if, let’s say, that I was gonna put together a ceiling fan
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Mhmm.
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And hang it in my roof, which I’m not, I could no more do that than the man in the moon without an Adderall. If I take an Adderall, I’ll read the directions. I’ll put the whole thing together and hang it on. No problem. Without it
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I bet you can do it without it.
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Stare at it. I’ve I’ve tried. You just skip I’ve tried.
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You’re bored. You need you need excitement. You just you’re a certain type of dude who needs a certain type of stimulation, and which is why you like the high wire act of performing live. I don’t think it’s a disorder. I think it’s a superpower.
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Ai do. Well, I like the sound of that.
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I do. I think the ability the inability to pay attention to shit that’s not interesting is not a disorder. It’s just you know what’s interesting and what’s not. You know, to this they’re like, maybe I have it too. Because this sai, when I’m talking to someone, they’re saying something really boring. I go I wanna run away.
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Right. You don’t you don’t hear a word that’s coming out.
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I don’t hear a word and I just can’t. It’s ai
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it’s Yeah. I just wanna get out. I’m the same way.
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But that doesn’t mean I have a disorder. I don’t think I have a disorder because if I’m talking to you, I got no problem at all.
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01:11:39
Well, let’s let’s let’s get two ceiling fans out here.
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Yeah. I’m I’m I’m sure I’m not that good at putting together a ceiling fan either. I wouldn’t enjoy it, but I could do it. You just follow the directions. Like, you could follow directions. It’s not hard. It’s just you wouldn’t enjoy it. But if there was something that you enjoy doing, like learning how to swing a golf club better Yeah. Then you could pay attention.
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Sai do pay attention to that.
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That’s all I’m saying. I think there’s roles in this world. There’s there’s and and different personalities fit perfectly into mathematics. Different personalities put fit perfectly in philosophy. Different meh engineering, different personalities. Sai it’s ai, you just gotta find out what what vibes with the way you think, and we all think differently.
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We all have different backgrounds. We all have different biology. You know, you just gotta find what is the thing that, like, syncs up with the way your mind works. And the problem with traditional education is there it was designed by the Rockefeller family. Like, the school system in this country was designed to create better factory workers
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Right.
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And and soldiers and to get them real early. That’s why they sana start you at ai, because they figured out when you start people at 12 or 13, they already got their ideas of what the world is and how the world works, and I’m not fucking shooting somebody for you. You know, so what they do is they get you when you’re five.
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And when you’re five, they can kind of indoctrinate you, separate you from your parents most of the day while your parents are at work. And so vatsal ai most of your day, you have other people other than your parents telling you how the world is, how the world works, what’s happening in in, you know, in your life and, what you should be doing.
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And that’s kinda crazy because a lot of those people suck. I remember thinking that when I was a kid, Like, thinking that how strange it is that people that I don’t respect and I don’t enjoy are the ones that are in control of communicating to me most of the day. I remember very clearly thinking that when I was a little kid, like 10. 11 years old. Yeah.
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You know, I know that when when I was a kid, I used to have this, this history teacher who was also a PE coach. Now he had something as intriguing as history to teach me, but I could not listen to him talk. So he couldn’t even make American history interesting. But a good teacher could have done it. Yes. A good teacher could have roped me in Yeah.
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To what was going on and the story of it and how it affects my life and the lives of my parents and my grandparents, how it all went down. You know? And, you that’s an interesting story. But if you’re a dull, fucking assistant coach, basketball, and now you got a fucking one period of history and and you have a monotone voice, and I’m just out of it.
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Ai imagine what it would have been like to have access to wonderful educators.
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01:14:30
Right. But if you were listening to, like ai ever listen to Dan Carlin’s podcast? No. He’s got this podcast called Hardcore History. It’s incredible. Incredible. It’s amazing. It’s such a good podcast. And this guy will, like, lay out the events of World War one in a way that you you will hang on every word and you’ll park your car.
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Like, if you gotta go somewhere, you’ll keep your car running because you just wanna listen to where this is going. Wow. Yeah. But so if a guy like that was teaching you history?
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That would have been great. Ai mean, I think I would have been engaged.
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01:15:01
You probably would have been historian. Yeah. Making nothing. Yeah. I mean, but this he’s Dan Carlin’s doing well. But that’s, someone who loves what they do. And that’s the difference. School is this weird indoctrination fucking ritual that we all have to go through. And then we all have to feel real bad about ourselves because we don’t wanna be there, and we’re not doing good at it.
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I felt like a fucking complete loser in school. I never felt ai I was that I was supposed to be there. I never felt like I was smart. You know, but I remember, ai, like, finally, when I realized that I was never, like, when I was going to school for three years, when I went to college for three years, when I ai was like, what am I doing?
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Sai ai stop doing this. It’s just wasting time. Because that’s all I was doing. It’s just completely wasting time. It was like a huge weight lifted off my shoulders.
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I could just go, this is not for me.
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Well, the one thing is I didn’t waste that time. You know? Right. There you go. There you go. Ai did. The, but, you know, I I think I’d have a better understanding of how the world works if Ai understood world history.
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Right.
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You know, that I mean, those kinds of things. Sai, you know, I just wish I was, you know, I wish I had an education. But ai would I do with it? I have no idea. I’d still do stand up. So
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Yeah. Well, hopefully.
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And Ai wouldn’t be any fucking funny.
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Christ. Imagine if you did imagine you did go down a different road. That would have sucked.
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01:16:35
I know. I was before I started doing stand up, I was a window salesman. And, and I was broke, and I had nothing, and I was unimpressive. And, my in laws bought us a garage door opener. So I had a garage door opener. Now you’re gonna think this is really fucking weird. I used to wear that garage door opener on my belt so people would think I had a beeper. I just hang it, clip it right there on my bill.
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People don’t know about the beeper.
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01:17:15
Yeah. Yeah.
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A lot of people listening right now,
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like I have no idea what that is.
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01:17:18
Ron and I have been through all the various stages of technological inter
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Wizardry.
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Yeah. But the in intertwining of our in our lives, the way it you know, the the first thing was the beeper. Like, you would get a beeper, like, my friend Johnny had one. You could page people. You could page him and he would call the number. Yeah. Hey. What’s up?
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You stop at a phone booth now that what a phone booth is.
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And you have to, like, put quarters in the phone and look at the beeper
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and Yeah.
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Hey. What’s up? Hey. What’s going on? Where you at? And you’d have a conversation with someone. That’s how you’d get a hold of him. You have to page him. Right. Yeah. Joey Diaz had a pager forever. Joey Diaz had a pager deep into the, like, maybe the two thousands. Wow. Not kidding. Yeah.
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Definitely in the nineties, he had a pager. Because I remember sometimes he would go AWOL, and you I’d be paging him, like, where are you? Like, one time meh were doing a gig in Jersey. We’re doing Rascals in East Orange, and he fucking never showed up. And I finally got a hold of on the phone.
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He’s like,
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I’m not gonna lie to you, dawg. I never left Vegas.
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Goddamn it, Joey.
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I’ll never forget that conversation. Never left Vegas. I’m not gonna lie to you, dawg. I never left Vegas.
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It was just having a good time. But that’s how you got a hold of him. You’d have to page him. That was it. And then when you got then one day he got a phone. And when he got a phone, you better not fucking text him. If you text him, he’ll yell at you. Ai, Brian Redban used to text him.
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He goes, stop fucking texting me.
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And then Joey eventually got an ai, and Brian got a text from him one day. I’m like, he’s texting? He’s like, he fucking texted me. Now we’ll text you. But he doesn’t like to text.
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01:19:04
How do you do it?
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He’s good. Yeah. He’s coming down soon. He’s gonna be here
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in a couple weeks. Good. Good.
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He, he’s come becoming real soon. Right? When is he here? Two weeks. Two weeks.
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Okay.
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Yeah. He would, he only wants to talk to you on the phone. I go, why? Why do you why don’t you like talking to people? He goes he goes, I’m insecure. I wanna hear your voice. I wanna tell you I love you. Yeah. I’m like, okay. I get it. I get it.
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He’s old school. Yeah.
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He yeah. He calls me every once in a while just to say hello.
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Just to say hi.
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Yeah. Just to say hi.
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Yeah. He’s ai the He’s
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checking on you.
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He might be the number one dude that I just talked to mostly on the phone. Very few text messages between me and Joey. Other than I’ll ask him, like, hey, is April 22 good? Yeah. We’re good. Okay. See you then.
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01:19:46
So is he gonna just come down to do sets and
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He’s coming down to do sets. He’s getting ready. He’s gonna do a special. So he’s, he’s doing a bunch of shows. He’s got a a residency. I think he’s doing it in Philly. Is he doing it in Philly? We’ll find out when he gets here. But he’s doing a residency. He’s done a few of these residencies where he shows up, like, every weekend. He has shows, places. People love him.
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01:20:08
He did, he opened up for Tom in Madison Square Garden. Tom said when he went on stage, they went fucking apeshit.
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01:20:13
Oh, how cool is that?
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They went apeshit because they didn’t know he was coming, you know. And then all of a sudden, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Joey Diaz. He’s like a snuffle ofagus. He’s a mystical creature.
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Right. He is. He is. There’s nothing like him. Nothing like him.
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Completely unique human being. You know?
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It was fun to watch him just stomp the fuck out of the fucking room at the at the store, man. He just beat that Oh, yeah. Shit out of those crowds. Oh,
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shit out of those crowds. Some of the sets that I’ve seen him have in the OR were, I think, Ai think it’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I’ve seen everybody. I’ve seen everyone. Great, great, great comedians who I love to death. I’ll and I’ll watch them every time they perform. But I think Joey hit RPMs that nobody hit.
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Like, he he hit these moments.
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Oh, I saw him wind them up, man. Just wind them up.
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It’s like when people say, like, who’s the funniest guy ever? I’m like, come, man. I don’t you know, there’s guys with great ai, like, Patrice had great insight. He was really hilarious, but he also had, like, great insight. Joey Diaz, you ain’t getting no insight
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01:21:26
out of Joey Diaz. No.
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He’s giving you he’s rock them, sock them robots. He’s here to fuck you up. Boom. He’s gonna fuck that crowd up. Oh. He he used to have this bit about Terry Crews. Ai, when Terry Crews, accused some guy of grabbing his dick, you know, and he had this bit about Terry Crews in the underwear commercial. Oh ai god.
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It was so funny. You’d you’d be in the back of the room just barely you couldn’t breathe. Everyone like, I was looking around the room. People are falling out of their chairs. Like, they couldn’t handle it. And he was on ai. Just purple, fucking red in the face, screaming and yelling. Yeah.
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Like, oh ai god. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god.
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That’s just some of the first sets I saw you do with at the store and when you were doing that bit where you were standing on top of the stool Oh, the Kim Kardashian bit? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking and I I just remember you just go just how just dick sai those fucking crowds. Ai like, goddamn ram. He he’s good at this. Fuck.
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It’s a fun job, bro.
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It is the funnest job.
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We’re so lucky. We’re we’re so lucky in so many ways. It just it doesn’t make sense.
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01:22:41
Yeah. When Ai think about a life without stand up, it makes me nervous to even think about it.
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But we almost did it. Right? Yeah. I mean, when we all went through that with COVID, I mean, you were basically saying you’re done.
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I thought it was done. Yeah. I I I didn’t like it anymore. It was yeah. Ai would halfway through every set, I was couldn’t wait for it to be over.
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01:23:01
Wow.
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01:23:04
And and now Ai go on stage, and I have this whole new gratitude for these crowds, you know, that are still there waiting bigger than ever. My show sell out faster than they ever have. Isn’t that amazing? And part of it is just because there’s less of them, I guess. But also it’s because of my friends, you know, ai the word gets out. You know, you guys didn’t let me die.
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01:23:28
Yeah. Yeah. We knew Ai mean, I tell everybody, but it’s true. Like, you’re one of the reasons why we decided to buy a club. Because, you ram because you grabbed me when you got off stage that first time you had been on stage, like, eight months. And you grabbed me by the shows.
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01:23:45
Whatever the fuck we have to do, we’re gonna keep doing this. Yeah. And we did. I will never forget that moment.
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I was like, okay. We’re gonna do it.
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Because you’re gonna get that fucking club open.
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01:23:54
Ai, we’re gonna do it. I was already thinking about doing it very seriously because I realized, like, early on coming here, I was like, we need a place. We can’t just, be working out of these rock and roll clubs. They’re not set up right. No. You know?
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01:24:10
No. There’s there’s a difference. I don’t even like to do I don’t even like to do sets other places.
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01:24:15
I don’t need it.
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01:24:15
That’s really what’s wrong with the with the mother shah. I don’t know. It’ll spoil your fucking ass, you know, with great crowds and perfect acoustics and an amazing sound system and and, you know, just and then when you move over to another room, which I rarely do, do another set in town.
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01:24:34
I did one of the other couple months ago, and I was like, this sucks. If you guys wanna find me, I’ll be down to mothership. And, but, Yeah.
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We did it, Ron.
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01:24:46
Yeah.
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We actually did it. You know? It’s interesting when you look back at those conversations we used to have, like, we’re in the Vulcan, hanging out in the green room, talking about what the club’s gonna be like. Yeah. It seemed like a pipe dream. Ai I know a lot of people probably did think it was fake. There’s a lot of people in LA.
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01:25:02
Like, Tony used to talk
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to him all the time. Yeah. When’s Joe open in that club? Club’s never gonna open. It’s all bullshit. You guys moved down there for no fucking reason. Because the
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thing about you taking a making a choice, that’s a scar.
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01:25:14
No. It is.
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01:25:15
Yeah. If the thing about, you making a choice to go and, you know, start something up and the people that are left behind, they kinda want you to fail, especially the haters.
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01:25:26
Right.
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They want you to. So Tony was, like, encountering that all the time. These people that just, for whatever reason, they don’t want other people to they don’t ai other people to escape the bomb that they’re in. You know? It’s like people from the neighborhood that don’t want you to leave, and when you do leave, oh,
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01:25:44
look who’s back. You’re right. People
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01:25:49
for whatever reason, people really like when people fail. You know? It’s a gross feeling. It’s a gross thing, but it’s super, super common. Looking for a joint?
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01:26:00
Yeah. Jesus Christ. Wrong point. Don’t you know we’re in Texas.
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You know, that’s the first thing they gotta fix is make this shit legal in the whole country. It’s so crazy
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01:26:13
that What’s stopping them?
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01:26:15
Oh, I don’t know. I don’t understand it. I mean, it’s a political beach ball. It’s one of those things just gets tossed around that I think is good for the establishment that runs the country. It’s good to keep it up in the air. Like, I’ll promise when I get in office, gays will be able to marry. Yay. Yeah. Right.
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01:26:36
And then they’re talking about there’s people that sana take that off the table, you know. It’s ai there’s a bunch of those things ai Roe v Wade, that was a big one. There’s a bunch of these cultural beach balls that are very important issues to some people, and, they get exploited by politicians as a way to promise you this and promise you that, but sure.
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01:26:55
But it never nothing ever gets fixed. Nothing ever changes.
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01:27:00
Right. You know? Well, it’s changing a little. You know? I didn’t think marijuana would ever be legal in Oklahoma. I thought they’d be behind us, you know. But before you go there now, it’s billboards on every fucking street corner. Come get your weed. You know?
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01:27:13
New Mexico just authorized psilocybin therapy. Really? Yep. People with depression I think depression and ai. Is that what it’s for? Is that what they’re they’re using it? Those terms which apply ai
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01:27:27
For sure.
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01:27:27
Basically everybody?
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01:27:28
Right. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody’s had
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some depression and some anxiety. There you go. Now you can get some mushrooms and figure your life out.
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01:27:35
Well, maybe I’ll give it a try.
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01:27:37
Yeah. It’s just the problem is, federally, it’s still not legal. And that which is it’s so dumb. It’s so dumb. You know? And I don’t think it’s gonna change, unfortunately. I don’t think I think Trump is too busy with all these other issues. I don’t think he’s interested in that.
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01:27:53
So cosponsor sai, here it goes. The bill would establish an advisory board treatment equity fund and research fund as well as remove psilocybin from the Controlled Substances Act to provide to protect qualified and registered patients, clinicians, and producers according to a news release jointly, a news release released jointly by the office of the Sana and the House Democrats.
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01:28:20
If so this is what the Democrats have over the Republicans. Freedom to explore your consciousness. Republicans, for whatever reason Yeah. They they shy away from that. It doesn’t fit with their conservative mindset of what you should and it used to be it didn’t fit freedom of speech didn’t fit with their their mindset.
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01:28:43
And now, the Republicans are all about freedom of speech because they ai the consequences of it during the last election cycle. You know? When things get censored and when you have a town square that’s curated by not just the big tech companies, but also by the federal government itself, things can get weird when you’re trying to access the truth.
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01:29:04
You wanna know what is actually going on. When certain stories have actually been suppressed for the news because the federal government deems them misinformation, even if they turn out to be true, that’s not good. And so for because of that, the right is supporting freedom of speech, which I think is fucking great. That’s great. That’s what we all should be supporting.
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01:29:24
But we all should should be supporting the freedom to expand your consciousness, and people have been doing it in certain ways for thousands and thousands of years.
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01:29:36
Thousands of years.
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01:29:37
And you don’t know better if you haven’t done it. If you haven’t done it yourself in your past judgment on people that have, you’re not qualified. If you if you wanna go, you know, do a psilocybin session, like a heavy what Terrence McKenna would call a heroic dose, you wanna do that and then talk shit?
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01:29:54
Okay. Yeah. But until then because the the thing is, like, it would preclude you from doing the things that you’re doing. Know this. Okay?
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01:30:05
If you are a fucking rampant capitalist sana all you give a fuck is about is your hedge fund, and all you give a fuck about is the stock market sana numbers and buying this exclusive vatsal and that exclusive this and getting tickets to this exclusive thing, and all you’re about is, like, status and numbers, it will fuck that up.
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01:30:26
It will fuck that whole thing sideways. You won’t be able to take any of that seriously anymore, but that’s good. It’s good for you. You’re not supposed to be taking that seriously. If you got half a billion dollars and you’re still scrambling to try to make more money, like, pause.
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01:30:43
You’re 67 years old. You’re gonna die if you’re lucky in thirty years. If you’re so lucky to hit 97.
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01:30:52
Oh, yeah.
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01:30:52
Thirty years happens so quick, man. Oh. We’ve been here for five, Ron. I know. We’ve been here you were here for six.
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01:30:58
Yeah.
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01:30:58
You were here. You were patient zero. I always say you’re patient zero in the the Austin invasion. Because I remember calling you it was a 02/2018 when you moved here?
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01:31:08
Seventeen, I think.
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01:31:09
Seventeen.
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01:31:10
I remember calling you going, what are you doing down there?
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01:31:13
Like, we miss you at the store.
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01:31:14
Oh, I fucking love it down here. Middle of the country. If I wanna fly, fly
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01:31:18
anywhere real quick. People are nice. Food’s great. Ai I was like, fuck. Can I live in Texas? I started thinking about it then. But then when the pandemic hit and I knew you were here, and then I had some some friends in LA that were also real sketched out by all of it. They all wound up moving somewhere else. A couple of them moved well, two families that I was real good friends with, they moved to Dallas.
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01:31:41
And then another good fam family friend moved to Vegas, and then another one just decided to stay. And we all came out here together, you know, as groups of friends. And, when we’re looking around Austin, I was like, fuck. Ron White lives here. I ai live here. That was, like, one of the first things I thought. Thought. I thought if Ron lives here, at least I have Ron.
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01:31:59
Yeah. I got a friend.
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01:32:01
Yeah. And I was like, okay. I can’t do stand up right now anyway. But then as soon as I moved, Tony’s like, fuck it. I’m moving. I was like, you’re moving too? And then Segura is like, I’m in. I was like, holy shit. And then Brian Simpson came out real early, and I didn’t really know Brian well at all, until Tom introduced me to him.
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01:32:21
Tom was like, dude, you gotta meet this guy. He’s so funny.
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01:32:23
He is too, man.
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01:32:24
He’s so funny. So he was here early too, and then Sana and Derek both moved out here early. I’m like, oh, shit. We got something going on. And then Tim Dillon bought a house out here. I was like, oh ai goodness. What is happening? This is crazy. And then Duncan was like, man, fucking North Carolina.
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01:32:39
I don’t know. I’m like, come to Texas, motherfucker. And then all of a sudden, Duncan’s out here. I’m like, holy shit. Holy shit. This is crazy.
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01:32:47
Ai I’m like, alright. We’re up and running. And by the time we decided to make that club, fuck, we had, like, 10 great guys ai here.
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01:32:54
Yeah.
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01:32:54
12 and more were coming.
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01:32:56
And they’re still coming.
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01:32:58
Yeah. Dylan, Tony. There’s so many different guys from the store that used to work at the store all the time.
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01:33:03
Yeah. I roped, Tony in, man. Ai, I’m like, we need Tony here. I gave him my fucking condo and let him use one of my Range Rovers to go out to Dallas. I’m like, yeah. I ai here for a week. I don’t know where I was. But, Yeah. Ai spend a week here, you’ll go, yeah, this is doable.
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01:33:20
This is doable. Well, we all were so excited because it felt like we were doing something different. Yeah. You know? I felt like we’re doing something different. I’ve always had this fuck it part of meh. I was like, fuck it. Let’s go. I’m that’s me.
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01:33:33
I’m I’m doing that. I love it. You do. You’re impetuous as fuck. Oh, I like it. From the time I you told me you were gonna I’m gonna move there. You had a house, like, two days later. I’m like, goddamn. This guy moves when he moves.
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01:33:46
Yeah. Ai kids helped a lot because they really wanted to move. They didn’t
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01:33:51
sweet ass place on the lake.
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01:33:53
Yeah. That’s what That’s good
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01:33:53
that’s good living over there.
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01:33:55
It’s also, like, when we came here, no one had masks on, and everybody was acting normal. Yeah. And so my kids are, like, what’s going on? Like, why how come everyone’s normal here? We should live here, you know. And then it just it just happened. And then all of a sudden, the stores closed sai I could get all the employees. And then I was like, look, I’ll pay you now.
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01:34:15
You don’t have to work. Just hang out. Yeah. Let’s let’s we’re gonna do something special.
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01:34:21
That was more money than you were thinking. It was, but it
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01:34:25
money is fun coupons.
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01:34:27
Yep. Fun tickets. That’s right.
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01:34:28
That’s what it’s supposed to be. A good time. If you’re not not having fun and you have money, you’re doing something wrong. Because you should be trying to have fun and ai, some things you have to pay for in order to have fun. A lot of fun is free, but there’s a lot of fun where you go like, oh, we gotta buy a building. We have to hire an architect.
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01:34:48
We have to pay a construction crew. We have to, you know, we have to do a lot of things, but that’s the way to do it. That’s what you’re supposed to do. And that I was the person who was able to do it. Because the the universe had decided that this thing wanted to get bryden, and we hit every green light. And then Sai was like, okay.
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01:35:05
Well, clearly, this is the thing I’m supposed to do. It’s, you know, I know it sounds crazy, but let’s go, you know. But I the whole thing was crazy. Like, is in the middle of the biggest deal I’d ever done ever in my whole life, Spotify. This crazy thing.
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01:35:22
I was like, the show was already like the number one show.
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01:35:25
What does that feel like? It was nuts. Ai that fucking deal and Bananas.
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01:35:28
Bananas. But I was also like, okay. Well, what should, you know, you have to figure out what you’re gonna do. Like, you have to be you you can’t be at the whim of all these other people’s ideas and expectations. Like, what do you wanna do? I was like, I wanna get the fuck out of LA. So let’s do it. So I moved in the middle of everything.
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01:35:48
So this is giant deal I have and all of a bryden, they’re like, where are you going?
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01:35:52
Yeah. I bet they were. Ai
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01:35:53
going to Texas. They’re like, don’t go to Texas. This is crazy. Like, are you sure you won’t be able to get gas? I’m like, look, I’m flying, guessing three times a week anyway. Right. Us already flying people in from New Mexico and
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01:36:06
New York. And New York’s closer than, you know, it’s a great spot.
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01:36:11
Really? Right. It’s not like a six hour flight. That’s sai hour flight across the whole country is a pain in the ass. The you know, the people were worn out by the time they got there. So, you know, they had to, like, have a night to rest and relax and rehydrate. And then the next day, maybe, you know, still they’re probably not a hundred percent. Yeah. This is ai three hours. Three hour flight ain’t shit.
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01:36:31
It’s a three hour flight from everywhere.
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01:36:32
Yeah. It’s easy. It’s a great spot.
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01:36:35
Yeah. But it’s also ai I feel like sometimes the universe calls you in a way and tells you just ai he gives you a feeling. Like, Ai think I ideas are ai a life form. I really do. I think it’s like an unexplored life form. I think that’s why the concept of the muse is so enticing to people because there’s something real to it.
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01:36:59
Like, when you decide you’re just gonna sit there and write and you just have it doesn’t always ai. Like, sometimes you get nothing, but sometimes because you sat there, you’ll have some of the best lines you’ve ever written. Because I think they’re like life forms that you have to call into your life. And I think sometimes these life forms, these ideas, they just exist in the ether.
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01:37:20
And by circumstance, they, like, kinda gel together and become more more valid and more ai, and then they enter into your mind. And if you’re ready to receive these ideas, you have to act on them, especially if they’re positive. I’m not saying, you know, go fucking build up the Capitol Building because you ai an idea. I mean, positive ai, not vengeful.
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01:37:42
Like, if you have a good a good soul, if your your your goal in life is a positive thing, these ideas will come to you and you’re supposed to if you can, you’re supposed to act on them. And I felt like, wow, what a unique opportunity I have to be able to do this. I shouldn’t be scared because it’s daunting and it’s expensive and it’s ai,
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01:38:01
what are you doing? Like, you just just do it. Just do what you do. Just do it. Here’s one thing that I believe. I believe that things disguise themselves, and we call them coincidences. But there really are no coincidences. And if you’ll look for things that look like coincidences, you can follow that line and go somewhere with it.
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01:38:22
Yeah.
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01:38:22
And, and I I feel like that that’s what happened whenever, you know, with the mass exodus sana people arya coming to comedy. It was to to make this the best comedy scene in the world. Yeah. You know, those things fell into place because that’s what was supposed to happen, and and, and I think it all happened because of me.
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01:38:42
In that, I needed it the worst. I needed this more than anybody else did. And I feel like I was able to cash in all my fucking karma or whatever and draw it all into me a little bit because I needed it. And vatsal and so, you know,
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01:38:59
that Well, it makes sense. Like, it’s a certainly a huge factor. Right? Because if you didn’t inspire me to even think about Austin, I wouldn’t have. And I wouldn’t have moved here if you weren’t here, I don’t think. Maybe I would have, but it helped a lot that you were here.
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01:39:12
I was like, this makes it so much easier that I know Ron’s here. And because it was weird times then, meh. Everything was even going to a restaurant, you felt like you were a rebel. Like, it felt weird. It would felt weird to not be scared.
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01:39:24
Like, you like, you wanted to hide the fact that you weren’t scared. You wanted to just go out. It was sai strange, strange, strange time that I think even now we look back on and we can’t like, I watched a, a UFC fight the other day, an older fight, and all the corner men had masks on.
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01:39:43
I’m like, this is the craziest thing
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01:39:45
that we want to ai right there. You know, it’s bizarre.
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01:39:49
It was a a fight that took place in an arena in Florida with no crowd. No crowd. It was Justin Gaethje versus Tony Ferguson. It was one of the first fights we did back. It was ai
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01:40:04
And you were there? Uh-huh.
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01:40:06
Yeah. And I was watching the fight, the other day. And I was looking at the corner, man. They all had masks on. I was like, what a weird fucking time. What a weird I remember, like, people would get upset if I didn’t wear a mask backstage. I’m like, what are we doing? What is this for? Like, this is crazy.
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01:40:22
These guys are beating the fuck out of each other and sweating on each other, you know. And all of us tested negative. That’s how we got through here. Like, is someone gonna magically gonna get COVID while we’re all wandering around together? Right. Don’t we all test negative?
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01:40:35
So you had to get in this room, they had to be able to test you. Everybody get tested.
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01:40:39
Like those shows that you did with Chappelle.
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01:40:41
Yeah. Exactly. So we’re all in this room. Take that fucking stupid mask off.
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01:40:44
Right. But
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01:40:44
even the shows we did with Chappelle, ai, the people were supposed to wear masks. Ai. Outside. Everyone’s tested. Is this a mystery, magical disease that we’re encountering that it’s ai demons hiding in the woods for you?
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01:41:00
But it but it was too at one time, wasn’t it?
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01:41:03
No.
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01:41:04
You know, I Sai lost Vic Henley to that disease in New York City early on.
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01:41:09
But Vic was not a healthy guy. Well What the what the disease did is exposed metabolic health problems. Ai, it didn’t
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01:41:17
I’ll admit that. I mean, he he was a raging alcoholic, and he knew it. And I I knew he was really considering, making some changes in his life, you know, that he was talking to me about, and then boom, you know, gone. So
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01:41:33
So in that sense, yes. It was. Yeah. But it wasn’t in the sense where all these healthy people who have been tested
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01:41:40
are wearing No. No. No. No. That’s that’s ridiculously
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01:41:43
the athletes and the ai. Like, what we would have to do is if one of the corner meh got COVID. Even if the fighter didn’t have COVID, the fighter was pulled from the card. So one of the corner men test positive for COVID because the fighter had been around him, even if he’s negative. We treated it different than we treated anything ever.
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01:42:01
And especially for the fighters, it had, like it was not gonna have an effect on them unless they did there’s one guy it did have an effect on. He got COVID really, really bad, but it’s because they kept training. These guys kept training while they had COVID. They a lot of these guys, they don’t give a fuck. They have the flu. Who cares? They’re showing up at the gym. It’s part of being an animal.
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01:42:22
It’s ai you’ll show up sick and you’ll train through a but you shouldn’t do that. You’re just breaking your immune system down further, and especially if you’re in camp. So being ram for a fighter is very different than regular working out. Being camp for a fighter is you are basically redlining your body, trying to get it to recover, like, trying to get it to keep pace so you can get to a superhuman level that’s only achievable after, like, a twelve week camp, and you can only hold on to it for a couple weeks.
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01:42:58
They got it. They know when you’re speak ai, and they’ll back a fighter off. They’ll go, we’re done today. We’re done we’re done today.
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01:43:04
Ai their own time.
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01:43:04
You’re peaking too early. You don’t wanna overdo it. So you wanna back off your training when you’re feeling absolutely perfect and get yourself a just slow down. We’re we’re we’re we’re a little too soon, like a really good trainer knows when you’re speak, but you can’t maintain it forever.
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01:43:23
It’s it’s really only for that’s why it’s so crazy that a lot of these ai, they’ll accept a fight on, like, ten days notice. Like, that’s nuts. That’s nuts. Like, you need you need to be speak. You need to be, like you’re gonna fight in a fucking cage.
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01:43:36
And I know you’re doing this as a financial decision, but that’s why Jon Jones is the smartest. Jon Jones never did that. They changed opponents. Fuck you. Ai off.
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01:43:45
Jon even guys like Chael Sonnen who eventually stomped in the first round, like, absolutely destroy it was a it was not even remotely competitive. It was an annihilation. It would have been an annihilation three hundred sixty five days a year for decades. It wouldn’t have mattered how good Jon Jones is and his greatest Chael Sonnen is.
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01:44:06
Jon Jones was the bigger man. Chael had fought at a hundred and eighty five pounds. Jon was a big two zero five, and he was the most talented guy that ever fought in the speak. And he’s gonna win every time. But when they change the opponent, they try to make it Chale, son, and he’s like, nope. Nope. We we do things the right way.
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01:44:18
I go through a full camp. That’s it. Fights off. Meh. Everybody’s like, because they want you to play ball. Meh it? We need a new guy.
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01:44:26
But look, to this day, everybody says he’s the GOAT. Well, why is he the GOAT? Because he did everything the right way. He he knew, especially when he wasn’t partying, he did everything the wrong way too. He did a lot of partying and still beat the fuck out of everybody because he was that good, because he was that talented.
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01:44:42
And one of the craziest things he ever said, Daniel Cormier, when they were having a rematch, they were talking shit in the press conference. And Daniel Cormier said something to John John goes, I beat you when I was on coke. Is the craziest statement. Because he says it, you’re like, oh, shit.
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01:45:01
And it’s true. It’s true. That’s how good John was. But if you try to change opponents, John’s like, uh-uh. Try to call John Jones in for a late notice fight on five days notice. He’ll tell you, go fuck yourself. Like, nope.
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01:45:15
I’d rather hang out at home with my dog. Like, he’s not doing it. Like, you gotta so these ai, when they’re peaking, they’re vulnerable. They get sick a lot, especially when they’re cutting weight because you’re redlining your body, and you could overdo it. And guys overdo it all the time. They overtrain.
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01:45:32
They just break themselves down when they just they they haven’t they’ve kept too much pace and not enough recovery, and they’re declining and declining and ai. They show up at the gym. They have no energy. They’re ai, fuck. And if you get a guy to the fight that’s overtrained, it’s horrible. It’s horrible to watch.
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01:45:49
I’ve seen it many times. The guys just can’t recover. They’re too tired. They overdid it. They’re too tough for their own good.
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01:45:54
So the one of those guys got COVID. This ai, Khamzat Chimaev, and this motherfucker is a psychopath. He’s a savage. Like, one of the most savage guys that’s ever fought in the sport, and he just kept training. Just kept train he this motherfucker trains, like, eight hours a day.
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01:46:09
He trains like a Wolverine. He’s an animal. He was training with COVID, and he kept kept getting real sick. Wound up getting hospitalized, ai up blood, gets out, goes right back to it. Same thing. Hospitalized again.
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01:46:23
He got hospitalized, like, twice because he wouldn’t stop training because he’s that psychotic. But other than him, regular athletes that get it, they just take a few days off. Right. Daniel Cormier had COVID trained through it and won the ai. Won the heavyweight ai. Training through COVID in his camp. He was sick during camp and kept training.
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01:46:47
And everybody was ai, let’s just keep going.
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01:46:49
Get off the couch the whole time I had COVID.
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01:46:53
So just imagine those level of athletes, and we’re worried about it so much that everybody has to wear a mask. Like, shut the fuck
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01:47:00
up. Right.
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01:47:01
This is nuts. So all that had to happen too, where we were the reckless ones. We were the ones that, like, I don’t I’m not buying this. I’m gonna live my life. I’m going to Texas. And there was a lot of people that were really mad at that.
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01:47:15
Like, what are you doing? You’re not scared. What are you doing? You’re doing shows and doors. You’re killing people. Blood is on your hands. It was a They were screaming at you. And they were screaming
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01:47:25
ai you. Massive people that were just all caught up in this psyop. They were just the you know, and it was great. Not good, really. But it was great in that it exposed these fragile thinkers, so many fragile ai. They couldn’t couldn’t see the forest for the trees. They just they couldn’t see it.
Speaker: 1
01:47:49
And when we all came out here, when we said, we see it. Like, this is bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’ll make you sick. Yeah.
Speaker: 1
01:47:57
You’ll have to be at home for a week. Yeah. Get get vitamin drips. You’ll be alright. Like, yeah. This is what we’re dealing with for real.
Speaker: 1
01:48:05
And a lot of people agreed. And then it turns out we were right. It turns out we were right. At the end of the day, we were correct. We were correct to sana live our lives.
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01:48:17
We all went back to live our oh,
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01:48:18
it’s not too soon. Sai who?
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01:48:21
Says who? The fucking government that’s been lying to you about this disease the entire time?
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01:48:26
Back on it and and and realize it that it happened. You know, that it really fucking happened, that we were locked up locked down.
Speaker: 1
01:48:34
It’s not good because it’s it’s like when you find out your friend’s a bitch, and then you have to count on them again in the future. You’re like, dude, don’t fall apart on me here. Right. Show up. Like, don’t get scared. We you need I need help.
Speaker: 1
01:48:48
Or you find out your friend falls apart under pressure. You’re like, oh, great. Why are you crying, Mike? What are we doing? Don’t cry. This is crazy.
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01:48:59
Like, now you can’t count on Ai, because Mike falls apart when chick gets hot. And this is how it feel feels with, like, a good percentage of the country. You know, it was a joke from my my last special, but I it’s I really feel this way. We lost a lot of people during COVID, and most of them are still alive. That Ai wrote that lines thinking about specific friends.
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01:49:21
It’s ai, what did you think was going on? What did you think was going on? Yeah. It’s a disease. But what what since when have you changed your entire fucking life for years for a disease? This is nuts.
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01:49:34
Since when have you listened to the entire government tell you you can’t have outdoor dining because of a disease like, a disease you’ve already had? You’ve already gotten through it, and this they’re still telling you this? And we’re we’re a year and a half into this fucking thing. And so we were right.
Speaker: 1
01:49:50
And so so many people because we were right, so many people also came. And that’s the beautiful thing. It’s ai people speak with their actions, and the people that are willing to make a leap like that, those are the ones you want there. Those are the ones sai, like, we got the best of the best. We got the the most fuck you of the fuck you people.
Speaker: 1
01:50:09
Because comedians are fuck you people. They are. Something happens in society like, hey, meh, fuck you.
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01:50:15
Right.
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01:50:15
You know?
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01:50:15
Or eat a steaming bowl of fuck.
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01:50:17
Eat a steaming bowl of fuck. No matter what it is, you know? And, the world needs that. I need that. I need that. I need you here. I need Tony. I need I need people like that the same way that you did. So we we all sort of collectively manifested it together. But without you, we wouldn’t be here.
Speaker: 0
01:50:37
Yeah. So you guys come on down to Austin, Texas and check out the mother shah and see how much fun we’re having if you don’t believe it. If you’re like, we’re making this shit up.
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01:50:45
Because of you, I also almost bought the cult house.
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01:50:48
Yeah. Right. That would have been you know? You ai have made it happen. I I people say, yeah. He did. That would have been horrible. It wouldn’t have been horrible.
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No. Ai would have been amazing.
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Because it was a cool place, and I you know, Ai I it it was,
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It would have been amazing. Yeah.
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It would have been amazing.
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It would have been amazing. It’s an amazing speak, and it’s hilarious that a cult used to own. I Sai feel terrible for all the people that were roped into building it and all all the people that guy butt fucked. You
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01:51:13
were doing that piece that was so funny and you quit doing it. You didn’t do that under your speak. No.
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I didn’t.
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01:51:18
Oh, that was so funny.
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Yeah. It’s a true story.
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Meh, I I gave you that line that it’s okay to hypnotize people and butt fuck them because it falls under the category of I talked them into it.
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Yeah. It’s basically
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01:51:30
the same thing. That’s not illegal at all. Yeah. I talked the guy into letting me fuck him in the ass.
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It’s kinda technically not illegal.
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01:51:37
With a watch going back and forth. I’m sorry. Face. That’s not illegal. That’s not true.
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01:51:42
The guy was a hypnotist and a gay porn star. Like, what a combo.
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Right.
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And then when they found the gay porn, ai, the doc you watch the documentary. Right? Mhmm. The documentary is incredible. But Ron, for people don’t at home, Ron had performed at this so you performed at that place.
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You’re, Ai fucking love that theater.
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You should buy that place. And then it was for sale. I was like, oh, we’re in. Right. And then Adam Eget is is what he goes, have you seen shah documentary
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01:52:07
that’s on that cult? I’m like, oh, no. Oh, no,
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01:52:10
Ron Ai. What have you done? Shah have you done?
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01:52:13
I watched the documentary and also the Hollywood. Ai it at that time that that’s what that building was. I don’t think I knew that it was a cult Yeah. Building whenever I first took it. I’ve maybe You’ve seen the videos of
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the guy dancing around
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01:52:26
inside the building? Yeah.
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That was what it was built for.
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01:52:29
Years ago. I mean, years and years ago. So I knew about that anyway, but I didn’t realize that that was the building or maybe maybe I’d fuck. I
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don’t know. Those are the same people wearing masks in their cars. You know what I’m saying? It’s like that’s why you can start a cult. If you just get everybody who wears a mask in their car, you could rope those motherfuckers into doing almost anything, And that’s how cults get started.
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01:52:50
Yeah. Yeah. No. People are looking looking for leadership. Well, they’re also looking for community. Really dumb.
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Ai, think about the positive aspects of the mothership. Right? Like, we’re all having a good time. Well, this is what everybody really wants. But what if the only way you can get that is to believe Baba Ganesh over there, who’s like, who changed his name and now he wears wooden beads and he sits in the lotus position and everybody’s gotta suck his dick, ai, I just wanted to do yoga and hang out with everybody.
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Why ram I gonna suck this guy’s dick? This is
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01:53:18
But they kept sucking his dick. And you know what? They’re sucking his dick somewhere else now
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01:53:22
in Hawaii. In Hawaii? Yeah. They’re
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01:53:24
still getting his dick sucked.
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Some guys are just really good at at, like
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01:53:27
At getting their dick sucked.
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It’s like the thing where you need to be on acid to understand the Grateful Dead. It’s ai you need to be at the special frame of mind with a special nine volt brain where you can get talked into a cult like that.
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01:53:44
But it happens every day.
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Every day.
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Every day.
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Every day all throughout the country. Then, you know, I was talking to Mark Mark Andreessen about this, venture capitalist ai. He’s a brilliant guy. And he was telling me that there’s a ton of active cults right now in California. Oh, yeah. That are functioning. Like, you only hear about the ones that wind up getting in shootouts with the feds. There’s a bunch of them that actually function somehow or another.
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01:54:08
They keep it together. You know, people leave. They tell the horror stories and some people join. Right. But, like, Wild Wild Country is a great example, that Netflix documentary.
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01:54:18
Yeah.
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The crazy thing is in the beginning, it looks so fun.
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01:54:22
Yeah. It looked completely fucking doable.
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So doable.
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01:54:25
You know, our leader’s got really nice fucking cars. Look. Yeah. How can he be wrong?
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01:54:30
He can’t be wrong. He’s got 20 Rolls Royces.
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01:54:33
There’s so many of them.
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01:54:34
It’s it’s ai whatever the way that we evolved in tribal society to listen to the chief, we all have this, like, strange desire to either be the chief or listen to the chief. Sure. You know? Either be the alpha or listen to the alpha. And someone can pretend to be the chief.
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They can pretend to be the chief with magical insight and you know what the most fucked up thing about that documentary is? The thing that still fucks with my ai? Is it that guy would do these thing this thing to these people called the knowing, where he would Right. And they would orgasm. They would just ai, like they would literally meet God. To this day, they all say that it was real, that that thing actually did happen.
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Like, the power of suggestion, the fact that he kept it from them for so long, and then the one day, or this is your coming of age ceremony, which is the one day you’re gonna get the knowing, and he would put his hands on them, and they would really experience something. And they said it was ai they were they were experiencing God.
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01:55:35
Like, they it was the most bliss they had ever felt in their ai, and that they never felt it again. So there the circumstances and the ritual activated this innate part of our consciousness that’s always there, this ability to talk to God, the ability to communicate with God, which is probably what every religion is trying to do.
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01:56:02
It’s all like this whisper of the truth that’s out there in the ether, and everybody knows that it’s out there. There’s Right. Something there. I just have to figure out how to and this ai, this crazy gay porn star, hypnotist, butt fucking all these dudes, still, even this guy was able to touch these people, and they were able to access that part of their brain.
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01:56:24
And they were in. They were in. They were like, oh, we’re in, man. I’m I’m following this guy everywhere. This guy really is, like, connected to God.
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01:56:33
Well, you know, I I think that that that prayer, I’m sorry with that, just with prayer, is a physical thing, not a spiritual thing, and that’s why it works for anybody. You know? I believe it’s a way to channel energy, and you changes the way you feel, but it doesn’t matter what you’re praying to, that it’s a physical transfers of injury
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01:56:57
Right.
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Not not a spiritual thing. Ai I I and and because anybody can do it. And and and also hypnosis is so powerful when it’s done correctly. And I know that because I’ve experienced hypnosis done well. And, so, boy, if you have both of those things, you know, you could have power over anybody that’s stupid enough to fucking
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01:57:19
buy. That’s the problem. That was what they did during the Manson family, MK Ultra, during those days. There’s part of, the Chaos book by Tom O’Neil. It’s about the Manson family. Excuse Excuse me. The Manson family murders. And one of the things that they went into is the fact that this guy who worked for the CIA at the time was part of MK Ultra.
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His name was Jollie West. And Jollie West is this figure all throughout the counterculture resistance movement that the federal government had sort of concocted. And part of what he was doing was teaching people how to manipulate people with LSD. And he was teaching Charlie Manson in jail.
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01:58:00
Like, they’ve he this guy visited Manson in jail. Then Manson would get out of jail, and Manson would get in trouble, get arrested, and then get released. And the the sheriff’s all say it’s over my pay grade. They were all told to let him go. And so he was implicated in murders and violent crimes, and they all they always let him go. They always had to let him go. And he was getting acid.
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And he had sophisticated methods of manipulating minds. It wasn’t as simple as, like, this is a charismatic dude and they all wanna Right. Cut a baby out of fucking Sharon Tate’s stomach. No. It was way crazier than that.
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It was sophisticated mind control ram MK Ultra, and they wanted to see if they could get people to become homicidal maniacs. And they were right. They could. They knew how to do it. They used it, and they got Manson to do it, and it threw water on this whole anti war hippie movement.
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All that peace love shah. Now hippies are murderers. Now hippies are Charles Manson. Now now, you know, your kid wants to just, like, fucking paint flowers and show up at Grateful Dead shows. No. Your kid’s a murderer. Your kid’s a fucking.
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01:59:08
These all the the hippies are suspects now. It worked. It was a fascinating thing they did. Like, the the way they threw water on this movement that was happening, like, in 1970. There’s this just threw it down and put schedule one on everything.
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01:59:29
If the Nixon administration hadn’t done that in 1970, who knows what the world looks like today? Like, who knows? Who knows if you can get ibogaine and ayahuasca in Meh, if psilocybin had stayed legal? What? It was made illegal in 1970.
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01:59:46
All that stuff ’70?
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Yep. All that stuff became schedule one in 1970. Marijuana was always illegal. It was illegal from, like, the nineteen thirties, and that was because it was a ai, and that was because it was a commodity. It had almost nothing to do with the drug itself. They were trying to outlaw hemp.
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02:00:03
They were worried because they had come out with a new way to process hemp fiber. It’s called the decorticator. They invented this thing. It’s big thing. Pop Pop Arya Science Magazine, hell, hemp, the new billion dollar crop.
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02:00:17
It was ai they were saying, we’re all gonna use hemp now because now there’s an effective way to process the fibers and they’re superior to everything else. Make superior paper, superior cloth, superior everything. Right. Everything. Much much much meh better plant. And, William Randolph Hearst sai ai, fuck that.
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02:00:35
So William Randolph Hearst starts publishing stories in his newspapers about how blacks and Mexicans are taking this new drug called marijuana. They invented the name. It was a wild Mexican tobacco. That’s what marijuana used to be. It was slang for a wild Mexican tobacco.
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02:00:53
So they put that name on cannabis, something that people had had forever. People have been smoking it forever. It was literally the the origin of the term canvas.
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02:01:04
Comes from cannabis?
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02:01:05
Yes.
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02:01:05
Oh, I didn’t know that.
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02:01:06
It’s all hemp. Well, if you go, like, the Mona Lisa, those are all painted on hemp. The first draft of the Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Hemp was a far superior paper. It’s really difficult to tear. It’s a crazy fiber.
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02:01:19
Hey. Can we put this on pause for a second?
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02:01:22
Ai gotta piss?
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02:01:24
Can we put it on pause for a second? Yeah. Okay.
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02:01:26
Whew. So, ladies and gentlemen, Ron White had a moment there where he, the cold came back, the sickness came back, and you
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02:01:36
Yeah. That was a moment. That was a moment. I don’t know what that was.
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02:01:41
Well, I was over here blabbing about the illegalization of weed and how crazy it is, and we were talking about Ayahuasca and all these things, and all of a sudden, you just got a little pale.
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02:01:51
Yeah. I got a little pale and started sweating. I I don’t know what it is. Ai just got a little sick. I feel a little better now. Ai had a nice yak and
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02:02:00
This is a how long has this sickness been with you?
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02:02:04
I felt fine all day. I felt fine yesterday. I played golf. I had,
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02:02:09
you know, I Sai has this happened before though or just comes on out of nowhere?
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02:02:12
No. This should be the first time.
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02:02:14
So maybe it’s ai a maybe it’s another thing. Like a food poisoning thing or something?
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02:02:18
Fuck. I don’t know. I don’t know what it is.
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02:02:21
Wow. And you’ve shah a couple IVs. Right?
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02:02:24
I had two last week, and I’ll go home and get another one.
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02:02:28
I’ll have
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and I’m sure I’ll be fine in just a little bit. Damn. Sure. I’ll be cool. Damn.
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02:02:35
And you play golf?
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02:02:37
Yeah. Ai golf with my son. Had a great time.
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02:02:41
It’s a nice day to play golf too.
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02:02:44
Absolutely. One of the
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02:02:45
things that we have out here, in Texas is real weather. I love it when it rains and everything’s so green and pretty. And
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02:02:52
You need to go down to Costa Rica.
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02:02:54
I do need to go down to Costa Rica.
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02:02:56
That, stay in your neighbor’s place.
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02:02:59
I do need to go down.
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02:03:00
It’s the sweetest thing
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02:03:01
Yeah.
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That I’ve ever seen. Yeah. My big pet peeve is when people say it’s the best thing you’ve ever seen. I’m like, this
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is the
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best thing you’ve ever seen, buddy. I’ve seen some shit. You know? I’ve seen some shit.
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02:03:14
Exactly. Like, what are you saying? I’ve seen so many things.
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02:03:18
But, but that place down there that, so that’s another driftwood or, like, you know, kinda like Driftwood.
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02:03:24
But,
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02:03:25
it is fucking gorgeous.
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I heard that Driftwood place is amazing. Place out here.
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02:03:30
It’s the best, man. It’s so pretty right now because all of they, you know, they blow in a bunch of wild flowers all over it, and it’s just fucking gorgeous. It’s a great golf course.
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02:03:39
I almost wish I played golf.
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02:03:41
It’s a waste of time and money. You don’t have, you you don’t I know you don’t have time. So
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02:03:47
Ai yeah. I would love it. I’m sure. But so we should probably wrap this up because you’re not feeling that that good. Right?
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02:03:56
I feel a little better.
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02:03:57
You’re ai?
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02:03:57
Yeah. I’m I’m I’m You ai rolling a little? That a little bit. Yeah.
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02:04:01
Alright. Well, it’s a it’s just a when someone gets sick like that, you don’t know what to do.
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02:04:07
Like Ai. Yeah. I don’t know what to do. But Ai I’ve I swear I feel better. I feel I don’t feel hot anymore. That’s so Weird.
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02:04:15
Sai weird. Like, what is that?
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02:04:17
I assumed you’d get something out of my stomach real quick, I think. Crazy. The quickest way to do it.
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02:04:23
It’s just crazy that something’s been, ai, you know, you have a little invader in your body Yeah. That you’re fighting off. That’s what we’re doing all the time, fighting off these invaders.
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02:04:32
Yeah. I’m still coming to the club tonight. Okay. I’m gonna I’m gonna get a drip and come do a set.
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02:04:38
Of course. This would be fun tonight. It’s Ram Patterson’s show tonight.
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02:04:41
Okay.
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02:04:41
Good.
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02:04:42
Good.
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02:04:44
It’s ai time. Really is. And the world is so chaotic right now, which is great for comedy. Whenever the world’s fucked up, comedy is at its best. Gaza sana Palestine, ai, and it’s fucking Ukraine and the tariffs. Right. It’s great to come out and do do some comedy.
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02:05:05
Yep. And I’m you know what? I and I stay I stay away from all of it
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02:05:10
Good.
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02:05:10
And and and of that subject matter, any politic or anything like that. And the reason is, you know, I know my I I know my crowd. I know what they sana, and and they want to laugh really hard. And they wanna and and Ai think that I’ve always taken the position as if I’m just not gonna bring that into it. I’m gonna let us do something.
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02:05:31
Ai Sai love it when other people do that are really good at it and, you know, that are it’s fun to watch and it’s entertaining as fuck. But I just decided a long time ago that I’m just gonna I’m just gonna go out there and make them laugh as hard as I can make them laugh ai let them have some time off from tragedy or whatever.
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02:05:49
And Yeah. And and Sai and I’m not that good at it anyway. So, you know, it’s I’ve never been a political commentator. Right? So why be one now?
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02:05:57
And and,
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02:05:59
Well, the problem with politics is you’re gonna alienate 50% of the crowd.
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02:06:03
It Dead split. Yeah. Dead split.
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02:06:05
And if you’re one of those people that takes a stand on stage, ai, okay, great.
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02:06:09
Right.
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02:06:09
Now you’re taking a stand.
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02:06:10
Yeah.
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02:06:10
Okay. But just just let’s let’s have fun.
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02:06:13
It’s silly.
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02:06:14
Unless what you have to say is so good that you can make someone laugh.
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02:06:19
Oh, if you’re good enough. Yeah. If you’re good enough. Right. You know, I saw people try to, you know, take on 09:11 right after 09:11, but I only saw, like, one person that was really if if you’re good enough to write about that, then write about it. But if you’re not good enough to write about it, leave it the fuck alone.
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02:06:38
Leave it the fuck alone. That’s some black belt material.
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02:06:40
Yeah. Yeah. You have to be skill level whatever.
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02:06:43
Yeah. You know, Mitzi Shore wouldn’t let Brian Holtzman on stage for two weeks after 09:11?
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02:06:47
No. I didn’t know that.
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02:06:51
She’s ai, no way.
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02:06:52
Keep him
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02:06:53
off the stage. Holtzman couldn’t wait couldn’t wait to say something fucking completely outrageous. Whatever that demon inside of him that comes out when he’s on stage.
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02:07:04
Yeah. I don’t understand him. You know, I really don’t. I love him I love him to death, but he’s such an original character and The most. Yeah.
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02:07:13
He’s from a different time. It’s like he was brought here from another dimension. He’s like a different thing. Even the way he dresses, it’s like he’s from the fifties.
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02:07:20
Right.
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02:07:21
He’s and he’s ai my age. Like, he’s he’s not he was like that when I met him. He was from a different era when I met him in ’94. I was like, what Oh,
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02:07:30
you’ve known him that long. Yeah.
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02:07:31
I’m like, where is this fucking guy from? Like, you’re from a different time.
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02:07:35
People fucking love him though, man. They He’s got a crowd now. Yeah. He does.
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02:07:39
That’s the difference between the way he was treated at the store. Unfortunately, he fell into this in through nobody’s fault. But it was ai everybody waited till the end and Holtz would go up. But, like, why have him on the end? You know, it’s ai, well, have him on when the crowd’s hot. Right. Like, don’t put him on at one in the morning. Put him on at meh.
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02:07:59
You know, let let’s see when the crowd is, like, popping. Like, let him let him cook when the crowd’s popping. You know? And now, he sells out. People come to see him.
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02:08:08
Right.
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02:08:09
In the headlines, it’s ai people get excited. You know? He’s a maniac. And he’s got a crowd now. He’s got, like, a legitimate draw.
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02:08:16
They get it.
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02:08:17
Yeah. They get it. Yeah. It’s nice. It’s fun. And, you know, that’s also the difference between our our when a comedy club is run by a comic. You know, because Holtzman has always been a comic for comics. You know, we all would go to see Holtzman at the end of the night when he was doing these insane sets for 15 people in the main room.
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02:08:36
Right.
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But now, like, we’re running the shows. Like, give him a fucking weekend.
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02:08:40
Like, let’s let’s go.
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02:08:41
Give him a Thursday night. Let’s go. Let’s have some fun.
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02:08:44
Right. Especially, he’s
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02:08:45
a lot of 10PM shows.
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02:08:46
Ai does a lot of Thursdays.
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02:08:47
Yeah. Especially, 10PM shows. That’s the best time to see him. When it’s late and you’ve had a couple of cocktails Right. You feel crazy about the world Yeah. Let that guy Let let that guy lose.
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02:09:00
You understand it’s a joke.
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02:09:02
Yeah. You get jokes. You get someone saying something that he doesn’t really meh. Right. That’s completely ridiculous to say. Yeah. That’s part of the fun.
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02:09:09
Yeah. Yeah. And then he acts like he means it and you buy into it. No. It’s a joke still.
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02:09:15
Yeah. But every now and then, he’ll show you behind the curtain.
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02:09:17
Yeah.
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02:09:18
Every now and then, he give you a little peek speak you’re like, okay. Yeah. This is an act. He’s having fun.
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02:09:24
He is. He’s having a good time. And he loves Austin too. I see him walking around downtown at most every time I’ve drive through the city. He’s just
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02:09:31
Yeah. It was a big get getting him here. It was a big get because we wanted to bring a lot of the there was some magic that was trapped in the town of The Comedy Store. It was magic. And some of it wasn’t being utilized correctly, and Holtzman is the best example of that.
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02:09:47
But what a fun hang it was, you know?
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02:09:48
What a fun hang. Yeah.
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02:09:50
It was it was great.
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02:09:51
As some of my favorite times in my life in that back bar Yeah. Just laughing. Just laughing. We would be back there just laugh. That was a great thing The Comedy Store did when they put together that bar Yeah. That it had Mitzi’s actual bar from her house Was the bar there?
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02:10:05
I didn’t know that.
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02:10:06
Yeah. That bar didn’t used to be there. Like, so the early days, that was ai a storage room. And so, at one point in ai, when the store was, like, really killing it, they decided, like, we should turn this into a bar. And I Sai don’t know what year was that. I wanna feel like Ai feel like that was, like, February, ai, which is right when I came back.
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02:10:27
And the store was killing it. And we all were ai, oh, yeah. We’ll have our own bar. This is incredible. And you had to go through the kitchen to get to it ai a scene from Goodfellas. Right.
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02:10:38
And you get back there and you could only be back there if you were cool. Like, you you couldn’t buy a ticket.
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02:10:45
It was police too.
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Yeah. You had to have a friend. You had to know somebody to get back there,
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but we would be
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hanging with some of the coolest people in the world.
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That was my favorite place to drink in the white.
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It was so fun. There’d be musicians back there.
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Smoke pot back there.
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Everybody was just chill, and the drinks were free. Yeah. It was crazy. It was ai it was so fun. The store was a magical place, meh. A magical place. And there’s something about the fact that, you know, it had this insane history to it that you felt ai, wow. I can’t believe I’m even here.
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Right. Standing on the stage, same last stages ai
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and Kennison. Kennison. Yeah. And you just you’re in the the belly of the beast on sunset in Hollywood, like, right in the middle of everything. Right. In the middle of everything, where everybody I remember when I was a kid in, 1988 when I first started doing stand up, they would talk about the Comedy Store like it was Meh.
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Right. Like, you had to make your pilgrimage to the store. And some guys would say they went there, but they bombed. I went back ai try do do some meetings. I did a set at the store. I bombed. I fucked that place.
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Like
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Yeah. My first, trip out to LA, I, you know, I I was trying to get on at the Improv. I couldn’t get on. And, and I was like, oh, man. I went to the Comedy Store. And I told them my story. It was Monday ai, and they they put me up first, which wasn’t a really good speak, and I ate it. And, but they did put me on stage. Yeah.
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They’re well, there it is ai there. There were about 10 people in there or whatever. Nobody, but and it was a horrible experience. But, but I I but it I always look back at it finally, you know, because they did it. You know? They said, yeah. Go go get on stage.
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First time I ever came out to the store, I was out in I was out in LA to do some pilot thing for Meh. And, I was staying at a hotel, and I I knew where the store was. Sai was ai, I I gotta get there. I just gotta see what it’s like. And they let me in because I was I said, hey, I’m a I’m ai comedian from New York. Can I just come in and watch the show?
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And they’re ai, yeah, sure. They just let me ai in. And then I sat in the back of the room, ram there’s, like, 19 people in there, and they were all, ai, the comics that were on stage were terrible. They were all, like, botacs. They’re, like, people that sort and then I realized years later that what had happened was a lot of these scenes, they go in these peaks and valleys, and I caught it when it was at a valley.
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Mhmm.
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And before it was at a peak, like the Kinison years, it was a giant peak. When people would come to it was the wild place. Kinison was there. They all come at midnight and watch him, and celebrities would be all there. And he had died in, like, ’92, I think. And I got there in ’94.
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So there’s, like, there’s this, like, absence.
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Low. Ai.
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It was a real low. There wasn’t there’s a lot of, like, leftovers. People that didn’t that were in the eighties that didn’t make it. Right. But they were still around. They’re still doing stand up and hoping that something was gonna happen, but they had tired acts. They were just tired.
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It hadn’t happened for them. They’re out there doing pilot season. They they didn’t wanna be at the store because you’re at the store, there’s no no, agents. There’s no executive. No one comes to see you at the store at that time. They would go to the improv. Right. Right.
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They would
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go
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to the laugh factory. That’s where the industry was. So if you really wanted to have vatsal career, you wouldn’t be doing sets at the store.
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Instead of two sets in front of Bud Freeman going, language. Watch your language.
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Yeah. There’s a lot of that back then. Right? The TV days, everybody thought you had to be clean?
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You know, when I came back to the store, it was in its heyday. You know? You were, you know, running the podcast and, you know, fucking place was packed to the rafters and the comics were solid as fuck. You know? Yeah. We had a magical run. Yeah. That was Yeah.
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It was a magical run.
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And and we’re having one now. So it’s sai it’s
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It’s the same thing. I mean, we’re it’s based but it’s our version of it, the new version of it. But it’s the same thing. It’s just ai it’s a beautiful thing when I mean, that term artist is very pretentious. So I’ll just say comics. Realize that we’re all doing this thing together, and there’s not a lot of us, and it’s fun to hang out together and enjoy each other’s company and and appreciate each other and appreciate the ride.
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We’re all in this wild ride together.
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That’s right. And it it is quite a ride.
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It’s a beautiful ride.
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Quite a ride.
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Yeah. We’re very lucky, Ron Ai. And Ai say it all the time, but it’s true. You’re you’re patient zero.
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Alright, man. A guy. I’ll take the title. I’ll take the title.
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You’re really patient zero because you just threw up. Imagine if you have some fucking new COVID picked up some new COVID in Vegas that kills
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us all. Yeah. I
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love you to death, brother.
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I love you too,
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man. For being
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here. Alright. You got thanks for having me on. Goodbye. See you guys.
