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#2299 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Description
Dave Smith is a stand-up comedian, libertarian political commentator, and podcaster. He’s the host of the “Part of the Problem” podcast, as well as a co-host of the “Legion of Skanks” podcast.
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#2299 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, several key topics and themes are explored. The episode features discussions on the influence and impact of podcasting, particularly focusing on Joe Rogan’s own show and its significant audience reach. The conversation touches on the backlash against certain public figures, such as Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson, and how these controversies have not negatively impacted their popularity. Instead, they have often led to increased attention and listenership.
A recurring theme is the authenticity and freedom that podcasting offers, allowing hosts like Joe Rogan to speak candidly without external constraints. This authenticity is highlighted as a major factor in the success of podcasts, contrasting with traditional media outlets that may struggle with viewership.
The episode also includes a segment on the use of “woke tactics” by individuals who have historically opposed such ideologies, noting a shift in public awareness and rejection of these tactics. Additionally, there is a discussion about the power dynamics in media, with references to how traditional media figures have had to acknowledge the influence of podcasts like Rogan’s.
An actionable insight from the episode is the emphasis on authenticity and genuine conversation as a means to engage and grow an audience. The episode also briefly mentions ZipRecruiter’s ZipIntro feature as a tool to expedite the hiring process, likening it to speed dating for job candidates.
Overall, the episode underscores the transformative impact of podcasting on media consumption and the importance of maintaining authenticity in content creation.
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#2299 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe
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Rogan experience.
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Ai my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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That part of this, man. Good to see you again, sir.
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Good to see you too, man. Good to
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see you again in these times of trouble and chaos.
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Ai, wild times.
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Where leftists are ai Teslas on fire and putting swastikas on them.
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And that’s and that’s the calmest they’ve been in years.
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This is actually, for them, probably the best. It’s so weird how these people are so easy to wind up and get them to do what you want them to do. Just put a narrative out there. You’re a good person if you go do this, and they just go run out and fucking cause chaos.
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And it’s the most I mean, look, it’s not ai as much chaos as, say, like, the Black Lives Matter protest in 2020 or something. But the one about the test, it’s ai you’re destroying electric cars.
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Which are mostly owned by liberals.
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Yeah. Like but the but I thought you’ve been telling me for so long that this is gonna save the world. Like, the importance on going green was that we’re all gonna die unless we do it. And now you’re taking the most successful, electric car company and trying to destroy them because for the crime of pointing out that maybe the $7,000,000,000,000 that our federal government’s spending has a wee bit of corruption in it.
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You know? Like, maybe we could cut some of that. It’s so I don’t know. It’s so on every level, it’s just so surreal.
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It is surreal. It feels fake. It does. It genuinely feels like we’re living in some sort of a stupid movie.
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Yeah. But it makes you wonder. It makes you wonder how controlled the whole thing is. You know? And I don’t know. I don’t know. But there is a do you remember I think I sana it to you at the time. But there was a like, four years ago, there was a Time magazine piece about the twenty twenty election.
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It was ai a real long article, about it was some like, the title was something ai, how the shadow government, like, tyler. Ai I it wasn’t exactly that, but it was, like, basically went through the real conspiracy of 2020. And they’re writing it from the pro conspiracy point of view.
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But they’re forget anything about, like, ballots or any of that stuff, which I don’t you know, even when you interviewed Trump, he didn’t really have a good answer for that. You know? He’s like, it’s it was stolen. And you’re like, well, how do you know it was stolen? It’s ai it was stolen. You know?
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Do I have the information?
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Yeah. But the but what we we do know, like, the real conspiracy in broad daylight that they just totally, like, tanked the economy, overhauled yeah. That’s it. The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the twenty twenty election. Saved. And they go deep into, like, admitting so much about, like, the censorship on social media, the the support of the riots and the protests.
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And what’s amazing about it is it really is incredible their ability to turn on and turn off the protest machine.
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Well, it’s just money. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just money. There’s a lot of people out there that have nothing to do. There are a bunch we were talking about the other day. I was like, if I was 21 years old and someone said, hey, they’re gonna pay you $400 to go to a Kamala Harris ram. Would you go? Fuck, yeah.
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Yeah. Ai go. I’d hold that sign up. I probably vote for When
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I was 21, you had me at $400. The conversation was over. It was like $400. I heard you get a thousand
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to go protest for Tesla.
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Shah. Can Ai sneak in both of those? Can we do
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one now? 1,400 in a day, dude. Nice.
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Yeah. I was I mean, I was thrilled when I was 25 to make, like, $75 at the comic strip or something like that. So yeah. The the but, also, it’s a you know, it’s ai and this that’s kinda like the whole CIA deep state game is it’s always moving around the margins. You know, like, if you if there’s, because, like, when I you know, on the show, I’ve talked about a bunch, ai, the Maidan revolution in Ukraine.
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Mhmm.
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And when I when I’d say, like, this was a US backed coup against the democratically elected president, the response Ai get from people who disagreed with it would always be like, oh, you’re denying the agency of the Ukrainian people? Because, like, look at these pictures. There’s all these Ukrainian people in the streets. And you’re like, well, yeah.
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But The US poured a hundred million dollars into that street protest. Like, you think that made a difference a little bit? You know? And so, like, it’s not that there weren’t real people there.
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Sure.
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But, man, you wanna keep a protest going through the Ukrainian winter, and then all of a bryden, you get a hundred million dollars. And now you got heat lamps and celebrities and concerts and and then you keep the whole thing going until the democratically elected president has to flee for his fucking life.
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And then what are you supposed to look at that? Oh, that was just an organic revolution? Like, no, it fucking wasn’t. You know? This is DC overthrowing Putin’s neighbor.
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And, you know, they don’t like that detail because then it fucks up the whole unprovoked
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Yeah. People don’t like that detail. They don’t like the detail that there’s many layers of subterfuge inter exchanging with each other. There’s just so much money and so much influence, and they’re so good at it. They’ve been doing it for so long that they can get Time magazine to write an article saying how it’s good. Yeah. It’s great.
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It’s good that we saved the twenty twenty election.
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And that’s and by the way, I love, I know your your podcast with, Mike Benz was phenomenal. That dude’s great.
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He’s phenomenal.
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I’ve done
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a few of them now. Yeah.
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He’s he’s great. But I’ll tell you, I already I knew all that, he’s right about all that USAID stuff. And I’ll tell you, that was the whole thing. It’s, Scott Horton’s book Provoked, which is, like, the best book that’s been written on the the history of the buildup to the war in Ukraine.
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And it was it’s all in there, dude, if you went. It’s all footnoted, but it’s like, meh. They’re the ones pumping all this money in. And then they make it out, like, when you when you try to cut it, they’re like, oh, no. We were just helping some kids get on a school bus over here and overthrowing the democratically elected government in Ukraine.
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You know, like, we did we did all of that. But
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Well, that’s the beautiful thing about USAID. You know, it’s ai they had the money to do all this stuff. There’s the money to do essentially whatever they want all over the world. And the way Mike Benz describes it as the stuff that’s too dirty for the CIA.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well and and sai they can have plausible deniability too. Because, like, ai are you talking about? An organization? Yeah. There you go. That’s total. Right? Yeah. Exactly. It’s, like, in the name. It’s they might as well call it. They’re like, we’re not the CIA. The good guy.
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We’re just George Soros’ NGO, not the CIA at all. Totally removed. But, also, the the thing is that, you know, when you look at, like, the actual money, because sometimes they’ll they’ll ai point out that they’re like, oh, this is a very small percentage of the budget. And it’s like, yeah.
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It’s tiny
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amount of money.
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Well, right. It’s a small percentage of our budget. Yeah. But our budget I mean, the I know the entire GDP of Russia is, like, $2,000,000,000,000, the entire economy. And I don’t know what Ukraine is, but smaller than that. And we spend, like, between 6 and $7,000,000,000,000 a year, just our government.
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So when you’re talking about flooding in a hundred million dollars, flooding in a few bill I think, like, it’s, like, 5 or $6,000,000,000 since ’91 we put into Ukraine. That may not sound like that much money in the context of America, the biggest economy or the second biggest economy in the world.
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But politically, in a small country like Ukraine, that moves mountains. That changes the entire landscape when the world empire is pumping that type of money in.
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What do you think the world looks like though if The United States doesn’t do that? So The United States doesn’t this is like the Mike Baker perspective. Right? Like, if The United States doesn’t make friends with these dictators, if The United States doesn’t put people who are sympathetic to our causes in power, China does, Russia does, It looks very bad for America all over the world.
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Things get dangerous.
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It’s almost almost always the, Warhawks rely on an unfalsifiable counterfactual, You know? So it’s like, oh, but if we didn’t do this and we ran the counterfactual, it would be this crazy other scenario that’s somehow even worse than this. Right. Now the problem with that from my perspective is, number one, the the factual scenario is, like, something like four to 5,000,000 dead civilians over the last twenty five years, entire nations destroyed, $8,000,000,000,000 depleted from the US Treasury, tens of thousands of our bravest young men blowing their brains out.
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So, you know, if you’re relying on this unfalsifiable ai, but it would have been worse if we hadn’t fought a war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and Somalia and Yemen and all these places over the last years. Okay. I’d say the onus is on you to really have to demonstrate that and not just assert that it would be worse if we hadn’t done this.
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But also, like, you know, we are going broke doing it. Like, we’re $36,000,000,000,000 in debt. We can’t even afford it. And the idea that if we were to get out of the game of being the world empire, then, like, China would go, okay. Great.
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Now we get to destroy ourselves, and it just seems completely it seems extremely unlikely that that would be the case. And, also, you know, it’s like people act like, okay. If we weren’t doing this in Ukraine, then Vladimir Putin could do whatever he wanted to. Or if we weren’t doing this, then China could do whatever they wanted to.
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But they’ve got adversaries all around them too who are richer than them, maybe not in China’s case, but certainly in Putin’s case, richer than them, are opposed to them. There’s an all of Western Europe is not just a pushover. Ai has Japan and South Korea, and they’ve got they’ve got their own, you know the the truth is that there’s nobody has the power that the US government has to do this shit.
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It’s only like, we’re the ones who can do this, and it would just be a better world if we just didn’t. Like, you just can’t convince me that, like, if we just hadn’t fought the terror wars, ai, which was totally a possibility. We coulda we had, the whole war on terrorism could have been over by Christmas of two thousand one with the special ops taking out the Al Qaeda cells.
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They could have trapped Osama bin Laden and Tora Bora when they had him there. They let him escape into, into Pakistan because, you know, if you if you Why
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do you think they did that?
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Because they already had their eye on Baghdad. And, you know, if Osama bin Laden is caught, you don’t get your bonus war. You know what I mean? He’s got the whole the whole, war propaganda for invading Afghanistan. It wasn’t everyone remembers WMDs, but it wasn’t just that claim.
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It was the claim which Dick Cheney and George w Bush and all the neocons pushed real hard was that he was in on nine eleven. Now this totally fell apart because it was never true and they knew it wasn’t true. But the claim was he’s got these weapons, and he could hand them off to the terrorists.
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And then, you know, what was the Condoleezza Rice, line was ai, we don’t want the warning to be in the form of a mushroom cloud or something like that. Like, the the fear was they’re gonna nuke Kansas or whatever. As soon as as soon as Saddam Hussein gives the weapons he doesn’t have to the terrorists he’s not friends with, but if they caught Osama bin Laden, I think that would’ve, that would’ve destroyed the the whole seven wars in five years.
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It’s the Wesley Clark strategy.
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Yeah. You wanna hear someone else on the Wesley Clark thing? This is new. So, Pierce Morgan, say what you will about him, he hosted a debate between which I love doing the show without Treshette. But, it’s it’s a circus. But, It
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is a circus.
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Yes. I
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think he’s very smart.
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Oh, he’s a genius, dude.
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That circus is, fucking a lot of people lining up.
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Dude, he is. He figured out and I you gotta give him so much credit because he’s probably the only one from, like, the old guard of corporate media
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Yes.
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Who figured it out. He went, okay. I see where we are. Yes. I see what’s going on, and I know what people want to sai.
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Well, Tucker figured it out too, but in a different way.
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Tucker Tucker is actually yes. Tucker is the one who really figured it out.
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Doing this kind of a show. Yes. Yeah. No. I think He’s basically doing long form podcast.
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Well, look. But with
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people who sucked Obama’s dick. Sometimes. And other various experts. And other really Not
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only that. Yeah. Really amazing people. Maybe 10% of the coverage is about who sucked Obama’s dick.
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Did you see that physician who was on the other day that was talking about all the cancer rises?
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Yeah.
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They’re seeing cancer. I didn’t
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watch the whole thing, but I saw a few clips from it. It’s very very interesting.
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Crazy. They’re seeing pancreatic cancer in kids, little kids, which is just unheard of. He was saying that in all of his career, he had never seen pancreatic cancer in a child before. Right. And now now they’re seeing it.
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Well, they I mean, they used to call, type two diabetes adult onset ai. Right. Because it was, like, the kids don’t get it. Right. It’s, like, unheard of. Right. And now it’s, like, all over the place. Right. I saw that thing I saw it because you, posted it, but the, Kaley means
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Yeah. Things were fucking amazing. Sai great. Wasn’t it fucking amazing? It’s just amazing that they’re arguing against this.
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Well, there’s, like, no argument. And, like, I’m far from I I don’t really understand the shit that well. But you go, okay. It’s crazy that Bobby Kennedy is overhauling this whole thing and cutting all this, and you’re like, okay. Okay. We spend more on health than any other nation in the world by far. And we’re sicker. Sickest. Yeah.
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You’re telling me there should and and your position here, the it it just, like, exposes that the entire media it’s ai your your position here is to get in between the regime and any threat to the regime.
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Well, it’s also radical change, and radical change causes controversy, and controversy is what they sell. Right? Yeah. So the media is going to sell that, and they’re going to sell it on on the angle of this is creating all sorts of problems, all sorts of people losing their jobs, budgets are getting cut, people are getting fired, they’re out on the street.
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It’s that. Like, that that’s just what they they have to do that. That is what if you’re doing television media, newsprint media, subscription media, that’s part of your job. Well, but you could also get huge ratings by covering the controversy that is we spend more money
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and have the worst outcomes.
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Can’t do it. Can’t do it. Because you get too much money from the pharmaceutical ai.
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But that’s the point.
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Also what Ai pointed that out.
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Right. And and, I mean, look. If the if the media was just driven by ratings, they’d be doing shows on Jeffrey Epstein every day. Every day. I mean, because they would you’d be the number one show in cable news. You could go, I’m gonna talk about no other topic. Give me the the 8PM hour on MSNBC or CNN or Fox News or whatever, and I’ll sai, I’m just gonna make my show about Jeffrey Epstein.
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That’s the every single day, that’s all we’re doing. I guarantee you I have the number one show in cable news.
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Right.
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More people would wanna watch that.
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The Candace Owens shah that’s on YouTube.
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Yeah. That’s right. And it’s doing better numbers than any of the shows on cable news.
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It’s it’s phenomenal. It’s it’s ai they created a monster with her. When they when they fired her from the Daily Wire, they created a monster.
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Yeah. They sure did. She can’t be stopped. Yeah. Oh, no. No. No. There’s no stopping Cammyone at this point. She’s hitting all
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the fucking third rails that no one wants to touch. She’s got a six hour presentation on how Bridget Macron is a man. I mean, it’s fucking six hours plus long.
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I’m like, I don’t know I don’t know if she’s even kinda right about that.
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I think she’s right.
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But she’s got a lot of shit to say on it.
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Bro, she would be getting sued right now instead of trying they’re trying to bribe her. Instead of trying to give her money to shut the fuck up
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Yeah.
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They would sue her.
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Yeah. No. You’re probably right about that.
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Sai don’t
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know if
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they are suing her. Have they have they ai to file anything? They probably have. They probably filed some bullshit lawsuits.
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I’m sure she’s dealing with several.
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I’m pretty sure she’s right. I don’t know. I might be wrong.
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Yeah. I
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think she’s right. The whole thing stinks. And what stinks way worse than that giant distraction is that the number one opponent ram Macron just got sentenced to four years in jail and barred from political life for five years.
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And the front runner, not just the number one runner, the one who’s winning. Winning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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It’s It’s fucking crazy. It’s what they ai to do to Trump plus.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ai. No. They were able to take it further. Yeah. And then we’ll see if there’s the backlash the same way there was when they tried to do that to Trump. And it’s just so it’s ai the, the there’s some propaganda that’s, like, almost too it can’t be successful propaganda.
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Like, saying Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and is in bed with terrorists, that’s good propaganda right there. You know, right after nine eleven, you could totally convince the average American that, okay. Well, we can’t let that stand. You know, in a post nine eleven world, we can’t allow some Arab dictator to have nuclear weapons, and he’s friends with the terrorists, and he’s in on nine eleven.
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Okay. We got but to say the propaganda is democracy is on the ballot while you’re trying to arrest your your opponent because he’s winning in the polls. Ai, that’s just too like, it’s too ridiculous. It’s too on its face.
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That, you have to say what you’re arresting him for. Yeah. And then when people look at it, you’re like, wait, Mar A Lago is worth how much?
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Yeah.
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Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. 34 what? Bookkeeping errors? Their misdemeanors? How where’s the felony? There’s no telling isn’t it past the statute of limitations? It is. And and
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ai a felony. Nobody’s ever been tried on this chart. This is a novel Yeah. Like like, a charge where it would be a misdemeanor, but you’ve ramped it up to a felony. Novel. And
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there’s no victim thing too.
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And there’s no victim involved. The banks themselves are telling you Right. We were happy to do business with Donald Trump. We do business with him again. Yeah. Yeah. It’s We
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got our money back. There’s no victims at all, and it’s what every real estate agent does. Yeah. Every real estate salesman, every real estate investor. They ai their properties. And your property is essentially only worth what people are willing to pay for it.
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Yeah. Look. Ai mean, it’s so op it was so obvious that they were just weaponizing the the legal system to go after them.
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It’s so crazy. Like, they they tried to sai Mar A Lago. It was only worth 18,000,000.
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Yeah. It’s about It’s ai, dude, I would buy it ai away.
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If someone told me you could get Mar A Lago for 18,000,000, Ai call my accountant right now. I’d go, don’t lose this. Jump on this.
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Dude, we do some ai podcast tomorrow.
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Ai the money. I’m moving to Florida.
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Just bring down Austin. You ai, everybody.
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I’d have to have the call with Jamie. He’d be like, fuck.
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Yeah. She go, you thought We’re moving to Florida, bitch. You thought you had some uncomfortable summers here.
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Did you love golfing? Lot of golfing for you.
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I lived in Florida for a while. I ai back.
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Lot of golfing. Alright. I like I like some parts of Florida. Florida’s fun.
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Well, I don’t think, I don’t think Trump’s selling, and I don’t think you’re getting for 18,000,000. I’d like
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Yeah. It’s the just don’t don’t leave your kids unattended, but yeah.
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Sure. No. No. No. No. No. Give your kids a gun.
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So let me alright. Let me tell you because I forgot what I was so okay. So Piers Morgan hosts a debate between Scott Horton and, Wesley Clark. Oh, interesting. Sai in this debate, one of the most interesting things Wesley Clark just very casually said this, but it’s not it’s ai breaking news.
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But he said so everybody I Ai assume we played it, like, a bunch of times on the show before, but Wesley Clark’s four star general. He was the head of NATO, and he told Amy Goodman on Democracy Now that he saw in late two thousand one the what is become known as the five, seven wars in five years.
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That the plan from the neocons in the government was that we were gonna overthrow all these governments in the region, in the next, five years. Now this plan obviously didn’t end up happening in five years, but it’s literally he names seven countries and there’s one to go. And that one, by the way, happens to be the one that Donald Trump is flirting with a war with right now, Iran. All the rest of them have happened.
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Israeli news reported today that a strike on Iran is imminent. Yeah.
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21:09
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There’s I mean, the we’re it’s we’re very clearly moving toward this sai, yet another catastrophic war. But sai Wesley Clark gets asked about this in the debate, and he goes, oh, it actually goes back much further than that. He goes, I first saw the plans in 1991, and it came from Paul Wolfowitz. Okay?
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21:28
So he goes, Paul Wolfowitz had these plans in 1991, and he took them to Brent Scowcroft who was, George h w Bush’s national security adviser. So he takes them to them and according to Wesley Clark again, this my source on this is a four star general. He says that Scowcroft went, we’ll look at this after the election. Ai two is the election year. They lose.
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21:48
Bill Clinton comes in, and he goes, and the plan kinda got killed. And then he said it was revived later in a study paid for by the Israelis and that this was done, that Richard Pearl was really the one who brought it back to life and that it was explicitly done because this is what they thought was necessary to protect Israel.
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22:07
And, like, as I’ve mentioned to you before now I don’t know exactly what study he’s referring to, but he said that’s what he said. But I do know, as I’ve mentioned before on this, that anybody can go read, the clean break. You could Google ai. It’s a a clean break, a new strategy for securing the realm, which was a letter written by the guy he mentioned, Richard Perle and David Wormser, to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996.
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22:31
It was his first year when he came in as prime minister. And the whole thing is basically the clean break is a break from the peace process, a break from Oslo because, essentially, Bill Clinton had gotten Yitzhak Rabin and, and, Arafat to agree to, like, start this two state solution process that should be loosely based around 67 borders.
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22:52
You gotta finally give these Palestinians a state. You’ve been occupying them since 1967. You gotta finally take your boot off their neck. And the clean break strategy was to go, listen. We gotta get away from this whole idea of a Palestinian state and giving them land.
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23:07
And, basically, the thinking the Itzhak Rabin old school thinking on this, loosely speak, it’s it’s a little more complicated. But, basically, they were like, look. We’ve been occupying the Palestinians for for decades and decades now. The the broader Arab world hates us over our treatment of the Palestinians.
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23:24
And so what you gotta do is you have to make peace with the Palestinians so that you can get along with all these Arab states around you. That was ai of the thinking. And the clean break strategy was ai, no. No. No. No. We’re gonna reverse that.
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23:37
Instead of making peace with the Palestinians so that we get along with the Arab states surrounding us, what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna overthrow all of those states sai we never have to make peace with the Palestinians. So we never have to have a two state solution. What we’ll just do is we’ll go overthrow all of these governments.
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23:53
Of course, Israel can’t go overthrow all of these governments, but The US can. And so after ‘9 they had these plans in in according to Wesley Clark in ’91, we know about the clean break memo in ’96. But after 09/11, that’s when ai a terrible twist of fate and all this shit, the neocons are in power.
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24:15
They’re in George w Bush’s, but there is no Brent Scowcroft. There is no h w. There’s nobody with, like, a little bit of wisdom at the top. It’s Dick Cheney at the top and then his sidekick George w Bush. And they go, so now we’re gonna move to get this.
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24:30
Do you remember when Dick Cheney was in the bunker and w wasn’t? Yeah. That’s when we knew it was up.
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24:34
Yeah. Yeah. That’ll tell that’ll tell
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you something. We we were informed that he was in the bunker, which is so crazy. Like, why would you say where the guy everyone’s trying to kill is hiding? Yeah. Are you are you that confident in your bunker? And where’s this bunker? What does it look like? Can I get a fucking MTV Cribs tour of this bunker?
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24:52
What what’s going on with the bunker?
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24:55
And look, man. And then just and and you could see now where there’s, like, so much, there there’s such a rise in people being so fed up with with this stuff. But the idea that we’re now I mean, look, just even, with those this whole signal gate shit that just happened. And it’s ai the real scandal there isn’t even I mean, I I do think that Mike Waltz should be fired over this.
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25:21
It’s I mean, it’s a crazy screw up, and it’s totally embarrassing. How do
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you do you how do you do that? I mean, I don’t understand how you do that. It doesn’t make any sense to me.
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25:30
Did you see his interview?
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25:32
But it it is a signal chat between high level government officials with classified information that’s being discussed about war plans.
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25:43
They would claim it’s not classified, but it was information about an imminent attack that’s about to take place. How’s that Seems like that would have to be. How’s that not possible? If that’s
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not classified, somebody else should get fired. Yeah. But the at the end of the day, you have, I believe there’s 18 people in that chat. Is that correct?
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25:58
It’s something probably around there. Yeah.
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26:00
And no one goes over those things before you start addressing this information? If Jamie and I were talking shit about someone and we decided to do it on signal, like, I would make sure that I didn’t accidentally include my mom. Yeah. Right. Or or or a fucking reporter I know. Or worse ai Or the or Trump himself.
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26:24
Whoopsies. Ai your enemy. Like, the person who hates you the most. How could
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you even have that guy in your contact list? Like, what’s going on?
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26:30
And also, I like, how do
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you say accidentally include someone.
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26:34
And the chat is, I mean, this is you can’t overstate it. Short of the president of The United States, it’s the most senior positions. It’s you have How do you not sign on
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26:43
going over the list before you go ai.
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26:46
It’s it’s unbelievable. But I will say that, like, that and and perhaps there’s another element. I mean, I don’t know, you know, I don’t exactly know. I I know in Trump’s first term, the efforts from his own government to sabotage him were profound. They were
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27:03
avoiding him.
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27:03
Yeah. I mean, they were they were framing him for being a Russian spy, his own intelligence agencies. And so when you have a conversation like this meh leaked to the most anti Trump, you know, propagandist at the Atlantic, it does raise some questions like
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Ai question.
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27:18
Was this done intentionally? Was it not? Whoopsies. Yeah. It’s and and I don’t know if you saw, but, Walt’s was he did Laura Ingram’s show, like, a couple days after it came out. Ai, I mean, his answers were just ridiculous.
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27:32
What did he say?
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27:34
It was like, she was like, so was this a staffer who messed up with someone? And he goes, no. No. No. You know, I take full responsibility. But it was you know, I’m sure a lot of people have a contact with the wrong number saved in the contact or something like that.
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27:46
Yeah. But you don’t include that. Yeah. But also Every time I get a new phone, one of the things I do is I go, oh, wow. Look at all the dead people on my phone. Right.
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27:56
I have
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a lot of dead people
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on my phone. Yeah. It’s ai. Yeah.
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It’s so sad. But I have a lot of friends that Ai look through my contact list. I’m like, fuck, he’s gone. Oh, fuck, he’s gone. It’s, you know, like and I have to make the decision. Do I delete them from my contact list? Generally, I don’t. I like to see in their Yeah.
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28:11
I know it’s it’s weird.
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I have a an old message ram, an old boss of mine. I keep the phone just because it’s got the voice mail on it.
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28:19
Yeah. No. I get that.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s ai, you keep things that you don’t need. I have contacts for people that are not just dead, but people that are dead to me. You know what I mean? Like, why why do I have them in there? Sure. I don’t talk to that guy anymore. Like but you don’t add them to a fucking chat list. That doesn’t make any sense.
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28:38
Well, right. And also and he was claiming, like, the idea of which I’m sure has happened to all of us before where, like, maybe you’re taking down someone’s number and you enter it wrong. So, like but that wouldn’t you wouldn’t happen to hit the Atlantic journalist guy’s number.
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28:52
No. He was he had to be in contact with that guy.
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28:55
Well, he claims he’s never been in contact with him. He’s never met him. He’s never had to put him in the chat. By the way, then they found pictures of ai together at, like, different events. Oh, so
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29:03
it’s already lying.
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29:04
Deal. Yeah. He’s already lying. It’s not but I will say, like, that and it’s ai with a lot of these things. It you know, there ai, like, which I’ve we’ve talked about before on the show, but there’s the leaked Victoria Nuland phone call where she’s, deciding who the new government in Ukraine will be.
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29:22
Right. And I’m Like, right around the ticket. Okay. And then at one point, she’s furious at the European Union for not, like, moving in faster. And she goes, at one point, she goes, you know, fuck the European Union. We’ll just do it ourselves.
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29:34
We should play that recording Sure. Because it’s so crazy. Ai should hear it.
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29:37
But the point is that the, the scandal became that she sai, fuck the EU. And you’re like, no. No. No. No. Dude, that’s not the scandal here. That’s not they’re like, isn’t this undiplomatic of her saying fuck the European Union? Like, that’s the least of what’s interesting about this.
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29:51
Isn’t it interesting that congresspeople swear now? It’s very bizarre. Everybody’s swearing. Yeah. Everybody’s ai, fuck this. Call people retards. It’s great.
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29:59
Well, it’s it is a it’s like they lost they were trying to play that, like, Donald Trump’s, like, down here and we’re the dig and then that didn’t work. So they were like, I guess, we’ll just try to be like him too now.
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30:09
Fuck Elon Musk. Yeah. Shah. Everybody’s excited again. It’s interesting. They’re they’re adopting podcast language is what it is.
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30:17
Yes. But it’s, I don’t think it’s gonna be successful for them because what they’re not adopting is the authenticity of it, and it comes off as kinda ai, it goes, oh, now you’re doing this? Like, after all these years of pretending you were all formal and everything was about decorum and how Donald Trump wasn’t he wasn’t presidential enough.
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30:36
And now you’re like, oh, so you never really believed any of that shit. It’s like it’s like them trying to turn on the woke stuff. It’s like it just does it’s too long.
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30:43
Right.
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It’s you you were so married
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to this for too long. You you gave up your authenticity for too long. Yeah. And we’re now it’s like a Chris Cuomo type deal.
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30:52
It’s it’s Yes. It’s like Chris Cuomo. It’s it’s Elizabeth Warren drinking the beer, but, like, not doing it right, you know, putting, like, her whole mouth over a bottle of beer.
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31:00
I I want people to get better. Right? So if you were a propagandist and then you’re ai, you know what? This is bullshit. But there’s examples of those people out there that are legitimate, you know. And then there’s also people that realize, like, oh, well, that job is over.
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31:14
I can’t do that anymore. Now, I have to be something different. Let me try to be authentic.
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31:19
Yes. And but you can people can read that, ma’am. They can tell. They can tell the difference.
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31:22
Never gonna fully be authentic. You’re always gonna hold something back. You’re always gonna you’re gonna say things because you want people to think of you a certain way rather than, okay, this is uncomfortable, but this is how I think.
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31:34
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That’s right. Oh, but so so anyway, just on the signal thing, though, again, like, the real scandal here is not that they whatever. Either intentionally or were just so incompetent that they they added this journalist to it and it got leaked. Like, the real scandal is, like, when you look through the chat and that it’s ai, what are we because what are we doing here?
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31:56
We’re bombing another country in The Middle East. We’re bombing the poorest country in The Middle East. Yeah. By the way,
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which been bombed forever.
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32:03
Oh ai god. On behalf of Israel, because they’re standing up against this fucking brutal war in Gaza right now. And so we’re gonna bomb these guys again. And then you have, like I gotta say, meh, like, I was disgusted by Tulsi Gabbard’s response there. Someone who I’ve, you know, said a lot of nice things about over the years and who I really supported as being the the DNI.
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32:23
But, like, literally only JD Vance is the only one who offers the mildest pushback and goes he’s like, hey, guys. This is kind of a mistake and it’s kind of everything against what Donald Trump ran on. And ai the way, like, it’s ai such an insignificant amount of our trade that even goes through this area. It’s really Europe’s problem, not ours.
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32:43
And but I’ll go along with it if you guys want to. If you guys say and then they literally say on the thing, they go, we’ve we’ve tracked the missile ai, as they call him. This is the target they’ve they’re trying to take out. They go, we’ve tracked him to his girlfriend’s apartment building. And so we’ll level the apartment building.
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33:00
And then, Tulsi Gabbard’s just ai, job well done, team. Everybody’s cheering it on. There’s not ai nobody nobody even has the thought to go, like, you know, like, any is there a way we could do this without, like, murdering an entire apartment building’s worth of people here?
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33:16
Is there a way man, this is a lot like, it’s like, did none did none of you guys even kind of believe in god? Are none of you even scared that maybe god exists and that, like, Jesus Christ, what are we doing here? There’s none of that. There’s not a feeling of that. There’s not a sense of, like, we’re and and, you know, ai I’ve talked about this before on the show, but we got the whole history of of the war in Yemen going all the way back to Obama’s first term.
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33:39
I mean, what we’ve done to this country, the poorest country in the Middle East, I mean, there it was a goddamn genocide that happened in Yemen. I mean, it was the drone bomb campaign from Obama was bad enough, but the Saudi invasion and the blockade and the war on the civilian population, you know, hundreds of thousands of people died, Hundreds of thousands of cases of, like, cholera and these other, like, real very easily preventable and treatable diseases that they just babies were just dying of because they had a full blockade around the country.
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34:07
Our the US Navy fucking enforcing the blockade. The US, fucking refueling the Saudi fighter jets and backing them the whole war there. And the idea that we think what launching a couple tomahawks is gonna break the Houthis after they went through all that shit, there’s no chant.
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34:24
Like, it’s not you’re just killing people for no strategic benefit. It’s there’s the only thing that would actually like, we could overthrow the Houthis if we wanted to invade the country. Like, the US military could do that. But, like, short of that, the idea that But you have
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to do that’s ai a big public thing, which is bombing somehow or another, especially drone bombing, sort of ai is in the ether. Yeah. You know what I mean? It’s almost abstract. Yeah. Like, you don’t like, if we sent a a tyler one team to go take this dude out, that would be front page news.
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34:56
That would be ai an act of war. That would be a good thing. We’re declaring war on this country. We’ve invaded their land with actual boots on the ground. It’s different for some weird reason. Like, you’re allowed to use flying robots remote controlled by drone operators who, by the way, have some of the weirdest fucking PSD. Yeah.
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35:16
PTSD rather. These people are all fucked up for a long time because they watch these folks. Because they’re they’re watching these folk. They know the people around. They get to know they watch them for days. They see them hug their kids, and then they get that fucking call.
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35:29
And And
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you don’t get any of the, and I don’t know. I mean, I’m just kind of speculating here. I’m no no psychologist.
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36:57
But there’s something I think where like, if you’re in the fight, if you’re in the action, you know, you it it like, a lot of different, you know, primal things are gonna kick up. Like, you’re you know, as all the troops say, and I’ve talked to a whole lot of them, it’s almost unanimous to a man that they always sai, the thing you’re fighting for once you get there is your brother next to you.
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37:17
Like, it’s not even it’s like, forget the mission or whatever. It’s like, you fuck this is your guy right here. Right. And you guys are going in to make sure your buddy doesn’t get his legs blown off or whatever. But when you don’t you don’t have any of that, there aren’t bullets whizzing at you. There’s not your friend next to you.
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37:31
There’s not this, like, sense of, like, I had to do what I had to do in this when you’re just watching it on a monitor ram a safe distance Yeah. Ai think there’s some way that that fucks you up on a whole different level.
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37:41
It’s got to. It’s gotta haunt your dreams. It has to. There’s no other way. I mean, you you see a a man holding his child and swing her around in his arya, and then you know you’re gonna blow that man and that kid to smithereens.
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37:52
Yeah.
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And you have to because the kids are near the dad, and we gotta kill that guy.
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37:57
Yeah. When you got orders, you know, like that’s, And
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37:59
a whole apartment building. Like, what we’re talking, like thousands of people? Shah are we talking about? To get to this guy?
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38:06
Well, you know, there’s a
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38:07
Mushroom cloud? Boom.
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38:08
Yeah. Well, there’s there’s a clip that, Tim Pool got, like, a a real short interview with Donald Trump during the campaign. Like, he I think he was the first one, but it wasn’t like a long form podcast. Like, it was he was the first podcast, but they did, like, twenty minutes or something like that.
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38:23
But he did get this one clip out of Donald Trump on that thing where Donald Trump is is, eviscerating Joe Biden for bombing the Houthis for the same exact reason, because they were firing on shipping lanes. And Donald Trump’s like, what type of idiot is Joe Biden? I mean, these guys, their answer for everything is to drop bombs on it. Pick up a phone.
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38:46
Diplomacy can work here. Like, you don’t have to do this. And the the fact is that, there were during the ai, which Trump’s envoy negotiated, which has fallen apart now. But during the ceasefire, there were no Houthi attacks on the shipping lanes. Like, they’ve stopped them. And then when the ceasefire fell apart, they picked them back up again.
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39:06
Now feel however you feel about that. I’m just saying there is a diplomatic solution here. Right? Like, they they are willing to, like if there’s a ai, they will stop these attacks. But there’s not a military solution short of invading the country and having yet another catastrophic war in The Middle East.
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39:25
And it’s ai, so which one of those do you wanna speak? America First crowd? I mean, like, Donald Trump was Donald Trump was explicitly elected for this reason as a repudiation of the foreign policy of the last thirty years Right. That we’re, like, done with this. We wanna put America First.
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39:42
And as you could see, even JD Vance and then a little bit Pete Hegseth, their only issue you know, it’s never the innocent people being killed. You know, for a bunch of Christians, I just it’s kinda weird that that never comes up. But their their issue is, oh, this is us bailing out Europe because Europe actually relies more on these these shipping lanes than The United States does by orders of magnitude.
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40:03
And but even that, that is part of the America First thing that Donald Trump totally ran against. Like, why is it that we have to foot the bill for everybody else’s defense? That makes no sense. We’re broke. Our our country is in bad shape.
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40:16
We need those resources here.
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40:18
What is the justification for these bombings? What is the public justification?
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40:22
That the Houthis, have attacked a few US, cargo ships and, that there’s, you know, that their international trade that they don’t have a right to disrupt international trade in this way, which is ai, oh, okay. It’s it’s true. I mean, the the thing that I’ve seen the most is, like, that people will go, well, we can’t just turn a blind eye to this aggression by the Houthis.
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40:44
But I also do think and and I don’t even blame people for this because it’s nobody, you know, in the corporate media or it ever talked about any of this stuff or very rarely talked about it, never really told the story, that it’s like, yeah, if you’re just coming into the story now, I could see where you might think the Houthis are the aggressors.
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41:01
But if you’re rewinding the tape from this, there is just no debate about it. Ai mean, there’s no question that we we literally started, you know, in it was in 02/2009 when Obama started up with the drone bombing, the then secret, drone bombing, campaign. And Yemen was one of the major theaters.
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41:22
You know, this was, where if you meh, because it were it was, like, the biggest scandal of the Obama administration, also not talked about much in the media, but was talked about on a lot of podcast, was that Anwar Al Aulaqi and his, like, 14 or 15 year old son, his two American citizens, were both killed by drone bombs in Yemen.
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41:40
And this was caused a bit of an outrage among some people because you were like, hey. You know, you really can’t murder American citizens who have never been charged of a crime. You can’t just sai, you know, I just you know, forget that whole bill of rights thing. They’re on my list.
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41:56
And by the way, the kid was not Al Qaeda affiliated or anything, and they claimed that that wasn’t intentional, but it sure seemed like it was. But sai Obama had a drone you know, he was fighting at the tyler. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula had, like, a presence in Yemen.
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42:11
So he’s drone bombing these these al Qaeda sites. They’re I think the estimates were something ai ninety five to ninety six percent of the people who died were not the arya. So just killing a whole bunch of innocent people. And then as always happens, in these situations, Ai Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula just grew stronger and stronger and stronger, because this is, you know, it’s insurgent meh.
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42:32
Like Yeah. General McChrystal said, you know, you kill a bunch of innocent people and then, you know, you kill one little girl, and she had three brothers and a father and two uncles, and they all join up Al Qaeda now because, like, fuck you. They’re gonna get you back for that shit.
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42:45
Everyone’s radicalized.
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42:46
Yes. So so we’re doing this drone bomb campaign over there. It’s completely failing, and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is just getting stronger and stronger. At the same time, Obama kinda bribed off the dictator of Yemen at the time, this guy, Sana. And he was like, listen.
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43:02
If you let us do our fucking drone bombing campaigns in here, we’ll give you a whole bunch of weapons and and money. And so he took the deal. And then he used those weapons to go attack this group, the Houthis. And then he also started losing to them. Like, even with The US weapons, the Houthis were fucking him up. And then little by little, the Houthis, like, kinda took over the whole country.
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43:23
And then in a now the Houthis are also enemies with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Like, these are radical Sunnis, al Qaeda versus radical Shiites, the the Houthis. And so they’re fucking enemies, and they’re fighting a civil war while all this is going on. And then Saudi Arabia decided to invade in in early two thousand fifteen.
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43:42
And it in 02/2015 and you can you could look this up if you, Google Obama, to placate the Saudis. These are literally what the Obama officials told, tyler the New York Times. I believe it was the New York Times. That they told them that literally this is why so Obama stabbed the Houthis in the back, took Saudi Arabia’s side, took Al Qaeda’s side, started fighting on the started using the fighting in a civil war against the Houthis, which is, you know, in effect, taking Al Qaeda’s side in that war.
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44:16
And so the Saudis invade the country. Now Obama said essentially that because the Saudis are ai an important trading partner, and they were pissed off at us at the ai. They were very upset about the war in Iraq. The Saudis were the ones in the region who arya against it the whole time because they knew.
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44:31
They were ai, you’re just gonna give Baghdad to Iran, basically, and this and that’s their big enemy is Iran. And then they were also really pissed off because Obama did the one decent thing he did in his administration was he worked out that deal with Iran. Same goddamn thing that Trump tore up and is now demanding they get back into some type of nuclear deal.
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44:48
But so in order to placate the Saudis, Obama goes, okay. We’ll back your your war here. And ai I said, full blockade around the country, refueling their military jets.
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45:00
Quiet support for Saudis entangles US and Yemen. This is, Yep. Here it is. Obama, in an awkward twist, becomes Saudi Arabia’s defender.
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45:14
Wow. And it is, it is hard to overstate how brutal the Saudis were in this war. I mean, like, you know, this think of Gaza, something not too unsimilar to that. But you’re talking ai a full blockade around the this was the poorest country in the Middle East before any of this. Full blockade around the country.
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45:35
The Saudis were bombing they were bombing their agriculture. They were bombing their, like, wheat silos. They were bombing their irrigation ditches. They’re just ai a total war on the civilian population all the way from 02/2015 into 02/2021 when it essentially ended in, like, ai Afghanistan style, I guess we give up.
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45:57
Like, it was just eventually, the status I think the Houthis you know, one of the things that’s really interesting that happened this whole time, like, you were talking about the drone wars. So back in 02/2009, first of all, it was secret. The drone program wasn’t everyone knew it. There had been good reporting on it.
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46:12
But the way they got the good reporting was, like, people found the drones in Yemen, you know, and they’d take, like, little, you know, grainy cell phone pictures and be like, look. This is a US drone. So there’s clearly but, actually, the, Obama’s press secretary, it’s not, goddamn it, not Jay Carney, his first press secretary. Ai blanking on his name.
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46:33
But he admitted this on NBC News. It was, like, a really amazing but he, like, was talking about how the drone program this is years later, ai, 2012. He’s at NBC News now. And he was talking about how when he used to get questions about the drone program, he wasn’t allowed to he wasn’t allowed to even acknowledge that it was real.
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46:53
Sai he would just sit there. Yeah. Yeah. Robert Gibbs. I apologize. I should have remembered that.
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I was told not to even acknowledge the drone program.
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There’s video of this.
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When I went through the process of becoming press secretary, one of first things they told me was, you’re not even to acknowledge the drone program. You’re not even to discuss that it exists, said former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs on up with Chris Hayes, Sunday.
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47:17
So now think about okay. By the way, there is video of this. It wasn’t you know, I don’t know if it’s in this article or not. But Sai mean, that was essentially the point. But the thing in the video is so funny is that they all are laughing about it. Like, they’re talking about, like, what ai of what a funny thing it is.
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47:30
Like, imagine being in the position where you can’t admit that a real thing’s real and journalists are asking you questions. And he said because it is ai funny in a weird way, but that’s ai you’d think a newsman would that wouldn’t be the number one thing. Oh, here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is it.
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47:48
Ai certainly think there are aspects of that program, that are and will remain, highly sensitive and very secret. But but let me give you, an example here, Chris. When I went through the process of becoming press secretary, one of the things one of the first things they told me was, you’re not even to acknowledge the drone program.
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48:07
You’re not even to discuss that it exists. Wow. And so I would get a question like that, and literally, I I couldn’t tell you what Major asked because once I figured out it was about the drone program, I realized I’m not supposed to talk about it. And but here’s what’s inherently crazy about that proposition. You’re being asked a question based on reporting of a program that exists. Right?
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48:31
So you’re the official government spokesperson acting as if the entire program pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Right. Yeah. It’s I think in many ways, and I think what the president has seen and I have not talked to him about this. I wanna be careful.
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48:43
This is my opinion.
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48:44
Yeah. Yeah.
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But I think what the president has seen is our denial of the existence of the program when it’s obviously happening, undermines, people’s confidence overall in the decisions that their government makes.
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48:59
That’s really that’s the major problem with murdering people in the poorest country in The Middle East. You know? It might undermine people’s trust in you and therefore your ability to murder more, people in the poorest country in The Middle East. So just ai by the way, whenever you see anyone over the last, like, say, eight years on MSNBC or CNN talking about a threat to democracy and the free press and all this, shut the fuck up.
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49:22
You hired that guy. The guy who’s sitting there telling you. Like, when it comes to the forget whether you’re for the war or against the war. It’s a secret war. You’re not forget democracy. The people aren’t even allowed to have an opinion on that.
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49:36
Even as the White House press secretary, you’re not even allowed to acknowledge it.
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49:42
And and, like, why not? Ai I mean, it’s just it’s not as if they were ai, well, if Al Qaeda knows that we’re coming for them, then something is compromised. It’s just like, oh, yeah. Obama ran as the peace candidate. He collected a Nobel Peace Prize before he had done anything.
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49:57
And he didn’t particularly wanna tell people that he had just started this new campaign of just murdering whoever he wanted to for whatever reason he wanted to. And, you know, one of the things that’s interesting about the technology of it, and I remember people much smarter than me predicting this at the ai, I guess Ai never really appreciated, like, exactly the the timetable of all of it.
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50:16
But it went in 02/2009, which he’s talking about 02/2009 a few years later there. It went ram, like, oh, The US has this new technology where we can use drones in war to all of a sudden now in 02/2025, you’re sitting around and everybody shah like, this is just part of war now.
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50:34
You know, literally, the the even the Houthis, I mean, they don’t have the capabilities we have, but they have drone bombs. And that’s part of how they were able to get the Saudis to finally back out is, like, they could hit some of their oil fields with their drone bombs, and it was enough of a pain in the ass for the Saudis to be ai, alright.
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50:50
Like, call it quits. You know, ways and so they ended that war in in ’21. But now these Houthis have been in charge of Yemen the whole time since, you know, in the same way that it was ai we fought this whole war to get the Taliban out of Afghanistan. We just lost. Like, they just still run the whole place. And so these guys are still there.
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51:08
They have gone through the what was the worst humanitarian crisis in the world from 02/2015 to 02/2021. They ai all of that, and they’re still there. And now they see the same goddamn thing happening in Gaza, and they’re the one again, I’m not, like, this is their stated thing.
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51:24
I’m not saying, like, they’re all great people or something, but they’re going, like, no. Fuck that. We’re standing up for the people in Gaza. And so they were, like, as long as all of you guys are supporting Israel, just slaughtering all these people, then we arya gonna start, you know, like, trying to shut down these shipping lanes, which they don’t really have the capacity to do.
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51:41
But they can hit some cargo ships and hit some military ships.
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51:44
How does this ever settle? How does this ever relax? Like, when you look at what happened in Sana, and you think about the tensions that existed before October 7, and then this happens, and then got then the the Israeli attack happens, like, how does anything come to a peaceful resolution at this point?
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52:05
Well, it looks really bad at the moment right now. You know? And, like, what I always like to say, which Ai, you know, is, like, 50% just me telling myself something to feel better about the situation. But then 50%, like, it is kind of, you know like, you look. You could go around the world right now and, like, England is right next to, is right next to Ireland, and everybody’s just cool there right now.
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52:30
And that would have seemed ai impossible. You know? And, like, France and Germany and you know what I mean? Like, there are all these countries where, like, there was a time where it just seemed impossible. And, you know, that was Egypt and Israel.
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52:41
So Egypt and Israel went to war four times in the first, twenty something years of the existence of the state of Israel. They just kept going to war and war and war against each other. And then in the late seventies, they made a deal, and it was like a land for peace
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swap. But isn’t it part of the problem that Palestine is not a state?
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53:00
Like Oh, that’s yeah. That’s, like, the whole problem.
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The whole thing is, like, you you can never come to peace if you never even acknowledge they exist.
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53:08
Yeah. That well, they’ve had so Israel Israel, took control of what what are known as the occupied territories. They took control of Gaza and the West Bank in 1967. And it’s one thing ai, I’m not, like, saying it’s ever ai, but, like, it’s one thing to, like, occupy an area for a few months after a war as you’re going through the process of turning it over to the you know, like, to themselves or it’s maybe even a few years.
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53:34
But, like, we’re going into, like, sixty years of complete Israeli control over these people. And and under Israeli control, they have zero rights. Zero rights whatsoever. I mean, like, they don’t have the freedom of movement. They don’t have freedom to trade with the outside world. They don’t have voting rights.
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53:54
They don’t have the right of due process. I they get they get if literally, to this day, like, in the West Bank, where there’s, like, all these big Israeli settlements because the Israelis are just constantly slowly stealing more of the Palestinians’ land, they if, like, an Israeli settler in the West Bank, in the same jurisdiction, gets in a dispute with a Palestinian there, the Israeli citizen he’s a citizen of Israel.
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54:17
He has rights. He goes to a trial. The fucking the Palestinian goes in front of a military trial if he’s lucky enough to get that. They have something like a ninety nine percent conviction rate. You’re just totally fucked. Like and this and and then look. A lot of people will point to, like look.
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54:36
Like, there’s there’s been terrorism on the Arab side toward the Israelis going back many years. But, like, I think you’re essentially right. You can’t expect a group of people who have to just be subjugated for eternity and not nobody’s gonna try to violently fight back. And, of course, when they non ai try to fight back, that gets squashed too. That gets met with violence.
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54:58
And then the wildest thing, Trump comes along and says, we’re gonna take it. Yeah. We’re gonna dig it. We’re gonna turn it into the Mediterranean of The Middle East.
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55:05
It’s such a man, it’s such a I really just and Ai say listen. I know like, the last time I was on was on election ai, and I I look. I supported Donald Trump in this last election. I think Donald Trump was, like, a necessary force. Donald Trump is a once in a century type of figure. If that Yeah.
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55:26
I mean, there was just nobody was positioned to do the things that Donald Trump did, and there were, like, enormous positives that came out of him winning this election. I mean, Donald Trump landed a devastating blow on the Republican establishment in 02/2016 when he won the primary, and he landed a devastating blow against the Democratic establishment by winning the presidency this year.
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55:49
And he, like, destroyed the corporate media, like, in a way that nobody else could have done. And all of those things are, like, incredible achievements, you know? But there is this, like, kinda tragedy with Donald Trump too, where it’s ai he’s the one guy who was able to do all of this.
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56:07
And I will say there were just there were hopes that it was like, hey. He maybe this time around, meh, he’s got Bobby Kennedy there. He’s got Tyler Gabbard there. He’s got, like, all okay. This is like a whole bunch of things.
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That war in one day.
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56:19
Yes. Right. He’s got he’s here to end the wars. Also, like, he had been burned by the system now. You know, hold it’s not just that they called him a Russian trader or whatever. It’s like they tried to throw him in jail. They tried to murder him? Okay. This is amazing. Oh, yeah. No. No. I’m sorry. That was totally totally happened.
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56:35
He had five phones.
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56:36
A lot of times, as we all know Professionally
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scrubbed department.
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56:39
Yes. That happens all the time, Joe. Many tyler, presidential candidates, the front runner to be president, once again former presidents, a sniper gets a clean shot a 30 yards away from them. That’s a very common thing.
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56:49
A guy who was in a BlackRock commercial just a couple years ago.
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56:51
And that’s and a lot of those guys were in BlackRock commercials once, Joe. This is a these are normal things that happen to normal people. It’s part of everyday politics. But but so a lot of this made people think, like, oh, maybe. But I will say already into Trump’s presidency, it’s just a lot is it’s like, shah, shit.
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57:09
Now Ai I guess I gotta be happy with the things that he did, but the idea that he’s really figured this out or he’s really on to ai or he’s learned a lot or he’s got. The guy is out there. He’s saying we should primary Thomas Massie and throwing his support behind Lindsey Graham. I mean, come on.
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57:23
What is Thomas Massie doing that’s pissing him off? No. He didn’t vote for the freaking spending bill. He he voted against the CR because it increased spending and was increasing the debt, and it was refunding all of the programs that Doge had recommended be cut. So he was like, no. I’m not voting for this. And Trump was like, well, I’m gonna need you to vote for it. And he was like, no. Oh.
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57:43
And that’s it. That’s his crime. The same thing same reason Trump hated him in 2020 because he wouldn’t vote for the, the $2,000,000,000,000 COVID spending bail. Because he was like, what you’re telling me because the country’s locked down? That means we have to bail out every giant corporation around the country? Like, no.
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57:58
I’m not supporting this. And then Trump sent all his people to go, you know, he’s betraying America First or whatever. And there’s once Trump gets in it, he just wants, like, you know, the next win. But, you know, the the real problem here is, like, the I look. The idea that we are going to go and and ethnically cleanse like, finish the job of ethnically cleansing the Palestinians out of Gaza on behalf of Israel.
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58:25
It’s ai, what first of all, what do you think what do you think the reaction to that’s gonna be? What do you think what do you think that’s gonna do to our country here? You know, it’s like Sai feel, it’s like I I see a lot of people who, get very upset about what they they call the rise of anti Semitism, which certainly, you know, according to my Twitter feed is is real.
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58:47
It’s real. There’s a lot of people
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Do you think it’s well, is it a rise or is it the ability to express it now been unlocked? Or is it both?
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58:58
I don’t know. Maybe both. You know, I I have a tough time kind of figuring out exactly what it is. It’s also, there’s there’s a troll aspect to it. You know, there’s there’s when you make one thing, the thing that you’re not allowed to say and the thing that’s gonna get a rise out of everybody, there’s this has been true and it’s been building for for many years.
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59:20
Kind of the alt right back in the day was kind of the first, you know, version of this, but where you could be some guy just at on your computer. You could be a 15 year old on on your phone or whatever, and you could get, you know, the New York Times senior editor to be ai, oh, look at this ai.
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59:38
You know, and just the ability to provoke that reaction out of somebody is that’s fun. Shit first thing. Yes. That’s and for you’re you’re handing this person who has no power, ai, some real kind of power. Right.
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59:51
I also think that, young for young men today, particularly, like, young straight white men, I think it’s kinda hard, like, for me and you to even understand the world they grew up in. It’s very different than the world we grew up. Like, they grew up in this woke era. And, okay, now it’s kinda like that’s receded and wokeism has been defeated, but they grew up in a time where racialism was accepted by every powerful institution just against them.
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01:00:23
Right. You know, like, it was totally fine to demonize straight white men at your high school, at your college, in your movies, in your TV shows, your politicians, celebrities, everybody. It was just and that does, like it unlocks a certain thing that we kinda all had a gentleman’s agreement to not unlock.
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01:00:41
Like, we’re just not really gonna do that. You know? We don’t wanna be, like, racialists. And so that’s I think that’s a component to it too. But there’s also no question that it’s, you know, it’s exploded since Israel’s launched this war on Gaza.
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01:00:56
Yeah. And it’s exploded on the left, which you never heard anti Jewish sentiment in public spaces before. You you really never saw that on campuses. You know, if Israel did something, you may see a protest, but it was gen generally, it was organic. These don’t seem organic.
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They seem very funded, and they’re very disruptive. And, you know, some universities experience vandalism and fires and crazy shit and people being threatened and doxxed. You know, it’s, it’s different. It’s it’s it’s a different level of it than I think we’ve ever seen before.
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01:01:33
And it’s kind of it’s it’s created a giant divide on the left. Right? Because on the left, you have a lot of people that are their whole life, they’ve been in support of Israel. Right? And now, all of a sudden, there’s these free Palestine people that are also on the left. So you have this divide on the left.
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01:01:50
Yeah. And and and there was that divide goes back a lot like, there there were leftist divides over the Israel Palestine question going back really to, like, 1967 Mhmm. Where most of the, the kind of, like, the the Black Power movement people, like the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, those guys, they all started with the Palestinians because they all saw it as, like, an extension of, like, yeah, that’s the whole, you know, we’re against, this kind of, like, racist colonizing, you know, like, force.
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01:02:22
And then, of course, there were a lot of influential Jewish people on the left who were, like, no. Not in in this case. We’re okay with it. But you you guys sure are right about all that civil rights stuff. But, like, let’s not look at it. Let’s not look over there.
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01:02:35
But so a lot of that has kind of reemerged. Now I do also you know, I don’t know, like, I’ve talked to, I talked to one kid who was, like, a grad student in at Columbia, which was really, like, the center of so many of these protests, and he’s Jewish. And I was like, I was like, so what’s it like that? And he was like, yeah, they’re annoying, and they’re Latin.
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01:02:57
Like, some of their their their chants are, like, real kinda weird. Yeah. Like, I don’t really know what they mean by it. And I was like, well, do you ever feel, like, threatened or and he’s like, no. No. It’s not. Like, it’s fine. They’ll just chant as you walk by.
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01:03:08
And then I do know also that they, they had at least one time, they had, like, a Seder service, which because they got, like, Jewish people in those protest movements too. And so they over last Passover, it was a year ago, they had, like, a Seder service with the Jews, like, in there too.
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01:03:24
So I also don’t I don’t know, like, what percentage of them are, like, just against the war and seeing pictures of dead babies and stuff like that. What percentage of them are actually, you know, like, harbor resentment toward Jewish people. Like, it’s it’s kinda hard to to measure.
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01:03:39
But I would just say that, like, it almost in a very similar way to, like, what I was talking about with the the drone war against Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. It just made them stronger. Yeah. It’s like, hey. If you wanna see less Al Qaeda, maybe stop having the American military kill innocent civilians in their land because that seems to be fueling them.
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01:04:00
And at the same time, for the people who are so concerned about the rise of antisemitism, you’re like, okay. Well, it has exploded since Israel’s been doing this to Gaza. Right? So, like, maybe The US shouldn’t be funding and arming the whole goddamn conflict because that does seem to, like, at least give those people a giant talking point to latch onto.
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01:04:18
Maybe we shouldn’t have a system where, like, our political class is not allowed to criticize a foreign government. And and a foreign government that’s gotten us into, like, seven wars, at least play a large role in getting us into those wars explicitly. I’m not, like, alleging some secret conspiracy. I’m saying, like, Benjamin Netanyahu is John McCain. Right. Like, he’s very he’s he’s been telling us Iran has a nuke.
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01:04:44
He’s been telling us they’re five years away from a nuke since I was seven. Literally, he’s been saying Iran is five years away from a nuke the entire time. And he he came over here. He testified before congress in 02/2002 that we, as a regional expert, that if we were to overthrow Saddam Hussein, democracy would sweep the region, and there’d be all these positive reverberations.
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01:05:03
And then he goes, and you also gotta overthrow the regime in Iran, and you also gotta overthrow Muammar Gaddafi. And, like, every single one of these things, we not Iran meh. Still pushing for that. But we went and overthrew Saddam Hussein. We went and overthrew Arya Gaddafi.
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01:05:17
And I don’t know what swept the region, but it wasn’t democracy.
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01:05:20
No. I remember in the early two thousands when I realized there’s two fighting factions of Islam. I was like, what? Yeah. And that Saddam Hussein had actually kept that from boiling over Yeah. Because he was in control.
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01:05:36
Yeah. No. It’s I remember learning it too ai around the same time. You’re like, you’re telling me there are shirts and skins over there?
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01:05:41
They fight against each other? Like, what are they? Do you know the difference between Sunni and Shah?
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01:05:47
I mean, I know that they’re different sects of Islam, but, like, in terms of, like, the religion itself Is it,
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01:05:51
like, the Catholics versus the Protestants? Yeah.
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01:05:53
I think it’s something something like that. Like, it’s always the people with the, like, most minor interpretations of their holy book differences who, like, go to war the most aggressively. Right. You know what I mean? Like, it’s like The Catholics and the Protestants or, you know, like, you agree on 95% of this religion, but, like, whatever.
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01:06:09
If you didn’t know about that conflict, you would never believe it’s real. Ai, Christians going to war with other Christians, ai, different meh.
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01:06:16
Like, bryden, horrible wars. Especially when you could, like, read about Jesus and you’d be, like, this doesn’t seem to be what he’s saying at all, man.
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01:06:23
Yeah. Who’s at the helm of this fucking battleship?
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01:06:26
It’s un it’s unbelievable to me that any and I’m not claiming to be any type of religious expert, and I’m not a Christian. But it is unbelievable to me that anybody could be a Christian and could then, like, somehow do the mental gymnastics and rationalization to be ai, and that’s why you gotta support every war.
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01:06:45
That’s why we gotta fight every single one of these wars. Because, you know, just like that guy Jesus told us, slaughter women and babies. Ai like the opposite of his message from my humble understanding of it.
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01:06:56
So the argument of that, if you sana take the argument, would be, like, you have to do that to protect everyone here.
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01:07:02
Yeah. I
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01:07:03
mean That’s the argument. Ai?
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01:07:04
Like, we have to go to war with Iran, a country that doesn’t have nuclear weapons or an air force capable of delivering them here.
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01:07:12
And it’s so convenient that they’re evil. So convenient that they torture students, and they they execute Olympic gold meh in wrestling because they protested against the government. It’s so convenient.
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01:07:24
Well, it’s also, like, you know, there’s evil shit going on all over the world. Oh, yeah. And it’s terrible that there is. But isn’t it interesting how, like, the next war you know, like, I was, I was in I I did a debate, at Princeton University, a a few months back, against Josh Hammer, who’s, is a editor at Newsweek.
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01:07:47
And we did, like, an Oxford style debate on whether The US should support Israel. And, you know, one of the things he said to me so I was talking about, like, all this stuff, like ai clean break strategy in the seven countries in five years. And he was ai, oh, the war in Libya, that was a totally separate thing. Like, that was that was ai a liberal interventionist war.
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01:08:06
And I was like, well, it sure is a coincidence that it was one of the seven countries. You know what I mean? Like, what a wild coincidence
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01:08:13
Kinda crazy.
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01:08:13
That we the the government we decided to overthrow was the exact government that four star general Wesley Clark told me we were planning on overthrowing way before any of these claims about how Gaddafi what then they made
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01:08:24
all these bold claims. Wild. Yeah. The Libya one’s wild when you see how good of a leader he he was obviously an evil dictator. No questions. An eccentric fellow? Yeah. Definitely a piece of shit. However, for the people that lived there, they got no interest loans. They they had incredible infrastructure. Their economy is doing well.
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01:08:45
They were at peace.
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01:08:46
And it was one of the richest countries in Africa, which is, you know, grading on a curve, but
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01:08:51
still Then a few years later, after we invade, it’s or we helped people. We we assisted. It becomes a failed state, and they have slave auctions on YouTube.
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01:09:01
Yeah. That’s right.
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Now I’ve heard it’s recovered somewhat. I’ve seen people reach out from Libya and tell me that Tripoli is actually not bad now.
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01:09:08
It’s doing better than it was. But also and and the other, part of this is that this was a huge contributing factor to the migrant crisis in Europe. You know, like, all these things do have, like, these domino effects where it does. So then Gaddafi also was ai, like, not allowing that to happen. Mhmm.
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01:09:25
And then you had these huge numbers of refugees pouring into Europe. But not just pouring in,
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01:09:30
but it seems like they’re they’re wanting them to pour in. Yeah. It seem I mean, this is where it gets really strange. You know, I I had a conversation with someone about this that didn’t understand it. And we were we were going over civil unrest and how what the use of civil unrest.
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01:09:46
One of the things that civil unrest does do really well is it makes people want to have measures to stop civil unrest that ultimately bryden liberties. Yep. It’s a really good strategy. So if you want to, take away people’s guns, take away right to protest, take one of the best things to do is to release as many criminals as you can and flood your your city with violence and crime.
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The more violence and crime you have, the more people will be freaked out. The more people will be freaked out, the more likely they are to give in to new measures of control.
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That’s exactly right. Exactly.
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And you could do that worldwide. Well, you could watch it. But also, let’s talk about Europe. Okay? In particular, let’s talk about Germany. Let let’s just talk about The UK. What have they been doing ai letting in immense numbers of migrants? One thing they’ve been doing is arresting people for Facebook posts.
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They’re arresting people for stepping out of line. So they’re moving closer and closer to totalitarianism. And if you look at the numbers of people, you know, that have been arrested for just face one one of them was someone just got arrested, pulled out of his house 02:00 in the morning for a Facebook post saying that he didn’t like the Palestinian flag.
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Ai mean, this is wild stuff. It’s wild stuff and thousands of arrests, not just you ever seen Konstantin Kisin talking to someone about this and he was explaining yeah. He’s ai, like, Russia imprisoned 400 people for posts on social media. That’s crazy. Right? How many ai The UK did? And he’s like, oh, I have no idea.
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Ai was like, 4,000. Ai like, what? Yeah. Thousands of people are getting arrested in The UK, and you you’re only seeing some of them. You’re seeing the people that are filming it at the time who have the wherewithal to grab a cell phone.
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There’s a lot of people that just couldn’t buy themselves that just got scooped up.
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What was it? Is, I think it was sixty Minutes did a piece where they had, like, three lawyers. They were sitting there and, like, or kinda, like, asking them, like, so would this post be okay? Would this be okay? Could I say something? And they’re ai, well, posting it is actually much worse than just saying it. And, I mean, like, it is really creepy. It’s really creepy. But you’re so right.
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You’re so spot on about this kind of, like, this this, like, one two punch of, like, destabilization and then government coming in with the solution. Yeah. It’s Harry Brown, who was, he’s he’s, deceased now, but he’s a brilliant, guy. He was ai a he ran for president on the Libertarian Party in ’96 and February, but he used to, he used to say the, the government, breaks your leg and then offers you a crutch.
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Mhmm. And then, like, they convince you to be thankful for the crutch. Mhmm. And you’re like, oh, man. If this government wasn’t here, I wouldn’t have a crutch.
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01:12:30
I’d be walking around on broken legs. But you see it where, like look. Even, if you just watch I remember, like, during 2020, in when the George Floyd thing first happened, and the and forget, like, whatever the autopsy, there was the one autopsy that said it was fentanyl that killed him.
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01:12:45
Like, leaving those that all of that aside. Just when the video of of that, Derek Chauvin kneeling on this guy’s neck who’s on the ground and crying in pain and he’s ai smiling and he’s and then the guy dies, everybody I know I mean, it was so unified. I knew hardcore right wingers, you know. Yeah. Ai my Fox News watching father-in-law.
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I remember the I was at his house the day it happened, and he goes, every one of those cops should be put in handcuffs on national television. He goes, they should all be charged with murder. Like, there was you know, that was ai, you cannot do this. And then after the ai started in the summer, all those same people were ai, send in the military. You know what?
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01:13:26
Like like, you just see how, like, someone could so quickly go ram, like, you know, we really need some police reform here. Like, there is too much state power Right. Of policing. To then then after you see some riots, what are you asking for? Well, who’s gonna stop that?
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01:13:37
Martial
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law? Yeah. Like, oh, we need the government to come in and crack down more police power than ever before. So you could see, like and that’s just like a little scale. But you could see how much that that demand and and by and sometimes, very understandably sai. Like, in that example, very understandably sai. Because you’re like, well, I don’t know. Like, I’m totally against, like, the over militarization of the police.
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But when you have these huge riots across every major city in the country, you’re like, well, I guess that’s this is the one time we have a reason to have that. And then, by the way, of course, they don’t do anything to stop it.
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Yeah.
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They just let it go.
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It’s all it’s the the George Floyd one was fascinating because it wasn’t a setup. It was just an organic moment where someone was filming some guy who had a a guy lean. Now, was he on his neck or was he on his shoulder? Because I keep hearing people online saying he was on his shoulder.
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Maybe maybe that that might be right.
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The thing is on the neck, you’re really gonna go out. You’re gonna go to sleep. You know, if if the ai really pressuring your neck like that, you’re gonna like, anybody who thinks that’s not a big deal, get someone who knows how to put weight on the knee, lean on your neck.
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01:14:48
Okay. He’s right on the neck. No question at all. Okay. That will put you to sleep for the most part, and that will definitely con constrict your breathing depending upon how much weight he actually has on that neck and how strong George Floyd is.
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Now imagine this ai already fucked up. He already has an enlarged heart. He’s on fentanyl. He’s already fucked up. But would he have died without this happening?
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Well, from what I understand, there were two autopsies.
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People wanna say it was an overdose. Well, may you know, it’s certainly he had poor health because of drug abuse, and it certainly must have contributed to it. But are you saying that if that that wouldn’t have a giant effect on someone in poor health? Like, if you did that to an old man with emphysema, if you had some ai who’s been smoking cigarettes for fifty years and you got on his neck, he could fucking die right there.
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Was whereas if he didn’t if you didn’t get on his neck, he’d probably live a long time.
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Right. And you can’t say it was the smoking that killed him if you if it was that.
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Right. Remember Eric Gardner? It was another one. Yeah. Eric Gardner, people were saying, you know, he died because he’s fat and he had a heart attack. I was like, no dude. That guy’s choking him. Yeah. And if you don’t think that guy’s choking him, let me grab your neck like that.
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You don’t
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think that’s a choke? Yeah. Because oh, because it’s one arm? Ai put you to sleep with one arm. Yeah. That’s Oh, yeah. You could put someone to speak.
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01:16:05
I’ve lost you. UFC fighters get put to sleep. Professional fighters get put to sleep with one arya.
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01:16:09
Professional world champion Shah Brady choked out Leon Edwards for the most part with a one arya guillotine.
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And Luke Rockhold got a Yep. Mike Mike Mike sai been the same way.
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01:16:19
One arm guillotine. Yeah. Peter Ortiz got somebody with that. The one arm guillotine is legit.
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Oh, and anybody who’s ai if anybody who, like, knows what they’re doing Yeah. It was grappling anyone who doesn’t know what they’re doing Right. They could all one arm choke you out. Yeah. Ai they
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01:16:34
they were saying, oh, he just restrained him. Like, no. No. No. No. No. No. When you restrain someone, you get their arms behind their back, you pin their weight down. You could just restrain the ai. If you’re a good jiu jitsu practitioner, with your body weight, if you have a good you’re on top. He’s face down. You put your hooks in.
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01:16:51
He’s not going anywhere. Yeah. You you flatten them out. You under hook them. You pull his arms out. Someone cuffs them. You don’t choke him.
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You have to choke him. The guy wasn’t resisting at all. So that was another one. Right? But these are real moments. These are organic moments.
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They’re not setups, but, boy, are they good at capitalizing on those fucking things. And then when you see public officials going with this swarm of narrative, the swarm of narrative was defund the police. Like, are you guys out of your fucking ai? In the middle of these riots, you’re gonna go against the police instead of going against the rioters? You got one bad cop.
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That bad cop should be prosecuted or something should happen. He should be you know, if the guy died of an overdose, at the very least, what he’s doing seems to be brutal Yeah. And unnecessary. Yeah. Yeah.
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Unnecessary and brutal. The guy’s not resisting. You put your put your weight on his back. It’s hard enough. It’s so hard to get up if someone has their fucking knee on your back.
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It’s so hard to get especially if you’re out of shape and you have an enlarged heart and you’re on fentanyl.
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01:17:51
Now there’s also seven cops around him. And he wasn’t I mean, I’ve watched the whole body cam footage. He was, he was clearly fucked up, and he was clearly, having, like, a massive panic attack. Yeah. But he wasn’t, like, being, like, violent with the cops. He wasn’t,
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like, he wasn’t,
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like, a he wasn’t a threat for that many cops. The cops get
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so desensitized, and you have so many Yeah. Experiences as one individual. This guy had a long criminal record. The people that worked that area probably all knew him. Didn’t, Derek Chauvin and him work together somewhere?
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01:18:26
Ai. I remember I remember hearing that, but I don’t remember what the yeah. They were ai yeah. They they were doing some security together. I think so. Yeah.
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But yeah. So it’s probably some get back involved in that knee on the neck?
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01:18:37
It’s right. Quite possibly. It’s also one of those things where, like, it is look, most of the time someone won’t die Right. If you do that. You know what I mean? That’s all the time. Yeah. Exactly. But there is Most of the
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time someone’s not filming it. Yes. That’s sai big.
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Also true. That’s true. And if the if the the body cam footage comes out, it’s usually much later, so it’s not kind of, like, as a media, but a thing. Also, usually, every single media outlet in the entire United States Of America in the middle of a lockdown doesn’t play the video on repeat all day every single day.
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Because it’s sai there was no reason the the thing about George Floyd that was crazy is that there was no reason for it to be a national story, and there was no reason for it to be a racial story.
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01:19:17
Ai, there wasn’t Wait a minute. Really? When why don’t you think there would be no reason for it to be a national story when a cop kills
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01:19:23
Oh, well, I just mean
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for a false $20 bill.
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No. No. No. I should when I say that okay. I’m not saying it there’s no, like, story there. I’m saying there wasn’t we’re a country of 330,000,000 people. There are a number of these incidents that happen every ai. Not like a crazy high number, but, like, there’s there’s a few hundred of these every year.
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01:19:43
This one kind of seemed to get picked as, like, we’re all gonna run with this right now.
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Because we got the full video. We got four minutes. It’s like, rock, go back to Rodney King. It’s the same thing.
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Yeah. I guess okay. That is a fair point. The Rodney King one was a a bit different. I mean, number one, the video element then was way crazier because it was
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01:20:02
Nobody had ever seen a video
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No one has it it there was there’s a guy with a giant thing who happens to be on his balcony at the right time. Right. And, also, they beat the ever loving shit out of him. Like, it was yeah. I mean, they were just after he was down and tell you, they just kept going and kept going.
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But the other thing that I always thought was, like, you ai of the George Floyd thing, it’s not like there was, like, any element in there where, like, they were calling him the n word or there was some type of, like, racial, like, thing. Like, it it didn’t ever seem to me that there was any reason to believe that, like, had he been a giant white dude tweaking out on drugs doing the exact same thing, it wouldn’t have gone the exact same way.
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Right. But he wasn’t.
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Yeah. That’s true. The thing
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is is is post Rodney King. It is a white guy on the neck of a black guy.
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But there was also a Asian cop and a black cop and Yeah.
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But they weren’t doing the kneeling. And they also
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got prosecuted. That’s a fair point. That is a fair point.
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Didn’t he get prosecuted?
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Ai he he got convicted of murder. I do not remember that.
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Asian cop got prosecuted as well. Yeah, man. See see if what other cops got prosecuted. I think it’s one of those things where you you’re supposed to to step in and sai, you gotta meh off his back.
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I think that’s totally reasonable. I mean, yeah. That’s, you know, to be like, hey, listen, he is totally
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The thing is, like, I sana know, was he on his neck the whole time? Because I had heard that he was also he was on his shoulder. And then but that is on his neck.
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So Sai
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was like, yeah. I’d have to go watch that horrible video over again. Ai don’t I don’t wanna do that. I was Yeah. It’s dark. Today, I was watching some horrible videos today from Gaza. This guy carrying around a headless baby showing what happened to his child is just so fucked.
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Another guy was holding a child’s arm in his hand.
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Dude, it’s it is so I mean, like, the level the level of evil that that this shit is. I mean, you see I I know you’ve seen the you see the drone videos, like, the aerial footage Yeah. Of Ai. Gaza’s gone.
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01:21:56
It’s gone.
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They fucking destroyed the whole goddamn place. I saw one
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It’s hard to believe.
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Ai saw I saw one estimate said that, it was, 90% of the population has been, what what’s the word I’m looking for? That they’ve been Displaced? Displaced. Yeah. That they’ve 90% of them are gone
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out of nowhere. 10%.
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Yeah. I know. It’s still there.
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I’m good. Find that guy and train him. That’s your Rambo. But it is, cops.
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Three of the cops were found guilty of violating his rights and one other one got pled guilty to aiding and abetting second degree murder ram manslaughter.
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Yeah. That was the Asian guy.
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They got three and a half years. Jesus.
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Alright. Eating and bedding. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I think you kinda have your ear cup. You ai have a responsibility to stop that.
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01:22:41
And then there’s also the level of fentanyl. We’ve discussed discussed this. Right? Because people keep saying that he died of a fentanyl overdose. But I don’t believe the level of fentanyl in his body was enough to give him an overdose. For the you know, you know what how LD fifty weight, rates work? You know how that works? No. I I Lethal dose for fifty percent of the population.
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01:23:01
That’s how they determine ai or not they’re. So the problem is, you know, you get a hundred people, give them all the same amount of stuff, fifty of them are gonna die, fifty of them are gonna live. So that’s how you find what the LD fifty of a drug is. So when you have something like fentanyl, this is the ai like a inveterate fentanyl user.
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You know, he probably has a very high tolerance to opiates, you know.
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And I don’t And he’s huge. He’s a big dude. He’s a big dude. Yeah.
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He was obviously dying from drug abuse. He had an enlarged heart. He he was fucked up, you know. And the the levels though, when they were ai at the threshold.
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Not the official autopsy, but this is the doctor that did one of them, I think. And he said here I don’t know if you can read that.
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But Yeah. Nanogram fentanyl ram eleven nanograms, deciliter. This is the this is higher than chronic pain patient. If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be accepted. Call on overdose. Deaths have been certified. I don’t know what that says.
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Let’s see what that is. Level of three. So level of three. He was at 11. So deaths have been certified at a level of three, nanograms per deciliter.
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He was at 11 nanograms per deciliter. I am not saying this killed him. Fentanyl metabolite ai AMPP. I think this is non commercial meta Meh. Meth. Meth.
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Nineteen oh, he had meth too. 19, nanograms per deciliter. This is
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Relatively low.
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Relatively low. That’s bad for
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your heart.
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But but meth’s bad for your heart. From video I’ve seen, it appears like his knee is on the side of the neck, not where the structures are. That doesn’t mean anything. That’s silly. That’s a person who’s never been choked. You shut your mouth. Shut your mouth, doctor. Let me lean on your neck, bitch. Breathe deep.
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Yeah. Right.
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What are you talking about? That’s so crazy. That’s that’s not gonna crush his ai.
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Yeah. What are you talking about? No. That just seems ridiculous.
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That’s so stupid. He crushes everything. If I got on your neck here, you’re not doing nothing. There’s none of this is gonna work. Look, when you’re when you have a big neck, you can die from your tongue. You know that? People die of sleep apnea ai football players.
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01:25:21
Big old Like swallow their tongue?
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No. Their tongue closes over the back of their mouth because they’re they have so much neck tissue
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01:25:27
Right.
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That their air hold gets smaller. Right? Now, I want you to imagine someone compressing that neck tissue with 210 pounds of body weight, all positioned on their knee.
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Yeah. Yeah. That’s Bro, you could
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put someone to sleep that way.
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Yeah.
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Like, they’ll die. If you hold on to it, they’ll die.
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01:25:45
It’s indefensible. And,
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It’s crazy.
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And the the and I think the country had kind of, like, the appropriate reaction to it.
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Then they they’re trying to say that cops can’t use choke holds anymore. Well, that’s crazy too. Because you should be able Well, if you’re a cop, you gotta be able to choke people. Like, if you get some wild meh up fucking dude and he’s attacking cops and he’s got his shirt off and fucking swastikas on his chest and he, you wanna strangle that guy.
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01:26:09
Sure.
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Put him away. Put him asleep, then you can cuff him. You can do that. Get asleep. In fact, it might be
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It’s the ai sai to than, like, tasing someone and then where they stiffen up and just fall over.
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01:26:22
If he just choked George Floyd out and then cuffed him Yeah. That would be way better for everybody.
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01:26:27
Yep.
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Like a real simple ai second rear naked choke. He goes to sleep temporarily. You cuff him. He wakes up. None of the trauma to his neck. None of that shit. None of the none of the four minutes, whatever it was, seconds.
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01:26:41
No nationwide riots.
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No nationwide riots. It’s Maybe they would have been
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01:26:45
for a different reason.
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01:26:46
But It’s just a jujitsu move and then you cuff him and, you know. But meh, being a cop is the most fucking thankless ai job in this country. And every day, they pull up to cars and they worry that they’re gonna get shot. Everybody seen videos of cops. They pull up to fucking tinted windows and they get blasted. Yeah.
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01:27:04
I just saw one today.
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There’s so many of them.
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01:27:07
Ai it was it was great. The one I saw today too was one where, like, it there was almost no tell. Like, it was they they they had to stop and they were just ai, hey, you know, buddy, is this your car? He’s like, yeah. Yeah. It’s my car. He seemed totally cool. They’re just like, okay. License and registration. He goes, I actually don’t have my license on me. And he goes, you’re driving without a license.
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01:27:25
Ai, sir. I’m gonna have to ask you to step out. And then just comes out, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, shooting at ai and shoots one of the cops. The other one gets behind the car, starts shooting back. It’s like yeah. No. Listen.
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01:27:33
I ai that’s gotta be a a crazy thing to you know, it’s like, I remember hearing a baseball player say once that he was ai, he goes, the toughest thing about being, like, in the outfield is that, like, every if you think about the game, like, every single pitch, you gotta immediately, like, be like, oh, is it coming to me?
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01:27:53
Right. And then it’s just, like, not not not not not not not is. You know? Like, you gotta, like, be ready for that one time where, like, it is coming to you. And I I’d imagine there’s something like that with the cops who’s like ai million. Every routine traffic stop, you gotta be a little bit concerned about that.
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01:28:08
On the other hand, that is the job, and there are expectations when you’re you know, if your salary is paid by the people’s taxes and, like, you the standard has to be probably the same thing Ai think the standard for fighting wars should be. The standard should just always be, do you absolutely have to do this?
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01:28:29
You know, like, if you don’t have to Ai
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01:28:31
the Eric Arya situation.
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01:28:32
Yes. Like, do you have to do this? He’s
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01:28:33
selling loosey. Okay.
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01:28:34
He’s selling loosey’s. Okay. There’s gotta be some I I understand Sound
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01:28:37
not to do that. Right.
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01:28:38
And I I understand, like, maybe there’s like, human beings could get very creative, man. We could find I I understand you’re saying, okay. There’s the guy sai the store has to, you know, sell cigarettes with the tax on them. He gets to sell these Lucy cigarettes. It’s hurting this guy’s business, and maybe he’s asked him to leave and he hasn’t. We’re talking about selling loose cigarettes outside of a store.
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01:28:55
You just don’t need to bring this level of violence, you know, to the to Right. For this situation. And, you know, it’s one of the things, like, I know I I saw you were talking about the other day, with the Trump, deportation stuff Mhmm. Where there’s, like, this very it’s a it’s an interesting moment that we’re in right now because you have if you remember in Trump’s first term, this was one of the biggest kind of, like, controversies that he he lost a lot of public support over was the kids in cages.
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01:29:30
Right.
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01:29:30
And okay. Now they,
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01:29:32
you you know Turns out they’d always put kids
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01:29:33
in cages. Meh. Yes. They they were built under the Obama administration. It was ai bullshit. They took some pictures of a kid crying that didn’t wasn’t even really about the Trump deportations. Like, you know, the media lies. That’s what they do. But there is something about, you know, like, in the, in the civil rights movement, you know, Martin Luther King and those guys, they picked Birmingham, Alabama.
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01:29:52
Like, they knew what they were doing. And they were they knew that they were gonna get this reaction and that then it could be on TV. And they almost forced the American people to watch these young black men in suits and ai, have fire hoses and dogs sicked on them. And even for the nineteen sixties American person who maybe harbored, like, some significant degree of prejudice, Even for them, just seeing that was like, oh, Jesus.
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01:30:25
Like
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Yeah.
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01:30:26
I can’t support that. You know what I mean? And there is something with you know, the The US has had just an insane immigration policy really since 1965. But, I mean, the Biden immigration it was the just ai the most insane policy. Joe Biden seems to me like his at least part of his legacy, is he moved the country further right on immigration than you could have imagined.
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01:30:51
It’s not supermajorities of the American people support mass deportations. But just like there’s a difference between being a little bit racist against black people and being able to watch, you know, cops unleash German shepherds on black dudes in suits and ties, it’s one thing to ai believe.
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I think the people who are here illegally gotta go back. It’s another thing to, like, watch it unfold and see what type of and I’ll just say this, like, on the theme of what I was saying, like, earlier about the signal stuff, you know, there were so many efforts to, like, sabotage Donald Trump’s first presidency.
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In this moment, if you really wanna see mass deportations, which, by the way, we’re not seeing, but if you really wanna see that as most Americans do, you ai won the argument. You finally won the day. You’ve now got supermajorities of the American people on your ai, and you’ve elected a president that this is his signature issue.
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The last thing you would wanna do is go round up 234 of them with no due process and send them to the most notorious brutal prison in El Salvador.
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And get some of them wrong. What the fuck are
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you thinking?
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And get some of them wrong. Yeah. And that that’s and the thing is, you’re saying there haven’t been mass deportations. What do you what do you mean by that?
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I mean I mean in large numbers. Like, there there have been there have been deportations. They’ve already kind of slowed down, but we have 10 tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the country. Right.
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But that that’s not the what they’re looking for. What they’re looking for is the criminals. And here’s the allegedly. Right? This is what we’re hoping. But here’s the problem that bothers meh. Quotas.
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I had a friend
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who was a cop who would tell me about quotas for speeding tickets back when they weren’t supposed to tell people about that.
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Mhmm.
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They have quotas. Right. And I said, so it’s basically ai being a glorified revenue collector. He’s ai, pretty meh. Pretty much. It’s if I’m not writing tickets, you know, it’s it’s gonna come down on me. Like, imagine a day where everybody made a decision. Like, for the next sixty days, collectively, as a country, no one’s gonna violate any traffic laws. Everyone’s gonna stop to a complete halt at every stop sign.
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No one’s gonna go a mile an hour above the speed limit. What happens? What do these cops do? If you have quotas so you’re assuming that people will always break the law forever. And if they don’t, do you adjust? Do you fire the cops?
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Do you cut your budget? What do you do?
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Do you remember when this happened in New York City? It was over a decade ago. There was a they had this, like, unofficial official police, like, slowdown where they they were upset about ai. I can’t remember the exact story, but it was the head of the police union said that he was ai, we will only be, enforcing, like, violent crimes.
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It was over the stop and frisk. Yes. It was over the stop and frisk controversy. And they were ai like, oh, you guys wanna all call this recent, which already Ai thought was so hilarious. I used to have a joke in my act about this many years ago, but where it was just ai, that was the threat from cops.
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It Ai, like, we’re only gonna arrest violent criminals. And you’re like, that’s probably what you should be doing to begin with. Like, what do we and so then, like, all these and everything was fine, by the way. There wasn’t a rise in in violent crime. It was just they just stopped doing it. But revenue started collapsing. And then they, like, whipped the cops into getting back to it.
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Like, they were, like, threatening their pensions and shit. And they were, like, yo, you cannot do this. Isn’t that crazy? You gotta keep policing for profit.
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Isn’t that crazy? Policing for profit. It’s crazy. It’s crazy that they write tickets. Like, tickets are kinda nuts. You know, it’s ai you you have to give us money because you went too fast.
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Well, I’ve always because that’s
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the incentive that everybody that everyone agrees is gonna work. God, I got another ticket.
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Yeah. Fuck. I always thought, like,
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would you You’re gonna stop speak? No. I’m ai get a radar detector.
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Yeah. Well, right. People find a way. I always thought there was something really unfair, that some I’ve heard some progressives talk about this, but it never seemed to, like, get that much traction. But there is something about, like, giving a ticket that’s, like, you know, what it just seems so regressive in terms of, like, like, it’s so much more punitive toward poor people and working class people Oh, yeah.
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Than it is toward the and it’s the same number for all of that. You know what I mean?
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Like, there’s something that meh ideas, dude.
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No. Not not not. I know. This is the the way the this is the problem is that progressives that will take that and go, oh, okay. So that means up it on the rich people. It’s like, no. That’s not what I’m saying.
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The rich.
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But, like, you know, you you hand out a $75 ticket to to somebody who’s making, like, $400 a speak, and you’re ai, Jesus Christ, dude. Like, that is devastating to that person. Yeah. Whereas, like, you hand out a $75 ticket to, like, a rich person, it’s kinda ai, okay. Yeah. You know?
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That’s a reasonable Oopsies. Punishment for that. I mean, you know? Anyway, listen, I’m not advocating with like, I’m not a a leftist. I don’t care about equity.
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It is no. That’s not a good idea. But it is a strange thing that there are revenue collectors who are also peace officers. Like, it seems like that should be a completely different thing. Yeah. It seems like cops shouldn’t be pulling people over because your fucking taillight’s out. That seems silly.
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That seems like a totally different proposition. Yep.
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Yeah. No. I completely agree.
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They pull people over for doing stupid shah, and a large percent of them are carrying drugs. A lot of them have fucking bricks in the back of their car. That’s the craziest thing about guys who are trafficking drugs. They’re trafficking, like, fucking 30 pounds of fentanyl, and they get pulled over for speeding.
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For some speed. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Or something like that. Oh, dude.
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They’re coked up, and they’re fucking driving fast, and they got a trunk full of fucking illegal guns and cocaine and meh. And why aren’t you going so slow and cautious? Why aren’t you using your blinker? You You should be listening to country music on your radio. Not, dude.
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You got meth to get somewhere.
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You should have a fucking cat diesel hat on. You should be be nice and calm and slow. You’re a regular guy just going about your day.
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Oh, by definition, these people aren’t making the wisest decisions, probably. Oh, so that’s You get
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to drive your fucking car filled with meth. You gotta get a crazy
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It’s not as easy as you think. You really gotta you can’t and you can’t just put a Craigslist ad up or whatever. Ai, I’m sure you gotta go through some sketchy channels and get there.
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Tom Homan guy sending everybody across the border. You can’t even get the Mexicans to do it anymore.
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Jesus. I mean, that guy is it is funny where, like, he’s I I get where he’s kinda ai the guy you’d want if you’re ai, we’re a hard we gotta we need a hard ass in here to do this. But when you do start getting these concerns about due process, I mean, his response it was in some interview where they were asking him about due process for the people he’s deporting, and he’s like, what’s the girl?
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Where was a good
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due process for Lake and Riley?
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For Lake and Riley. Where was the due process for her? And you’re like, yeah. But, dude, that’s not what due process means. But ai sure Murder victims don’t get due process. That’s why it’s illegal to murder somebody. And even, by the way, in that case, her killer got due process and then got convicted of you know what I mean? Like, that’s the whole point.
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And there’s just again, like I was saying, it seems there’s a few moves that the Trump administration has has made so arya. And I don’t know who is in his ear and who has convinced him, to pursue this policy. But, like, again, if you wanted to pursue, like, mass deportations, which I understand. I think there’s a strong case. I mean, look.
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He’s done a great job of, stopping the flow, which was job number one. Mhmm. And that was his best line at his State of the Union, where it was ai the Democrats kept saying we needed legislation to close the border. Turns out we just needed a new president, which is shockingly true.
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Like, it is unbelievable how it went from record high border crossings under Biden to record low border crossings over Donald Trump. Yeah. And I do think that so much of that is just that it’s a real difficult journey. And if people feel like, oh, Trump’s in there, obviously, we’re not gonna be allowed in. And they just won’t go through it.
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I also do think that Donald Trump is fundamentally correct with his idea that, like, you don’t have a nation if you don’t have borders. Like, you can’t listen, the the the ai, at least, I’m not saying this is really how it works, but the idea is that we’re a free country because we have self government.
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And in other words, the American people get to decide how many people we bring in here and how many we don’t. And that it’s at this point, nobody actually knows the number for sure, but it is north of 30,000,000, illegal immigrants in the country. But ai god, if you wanted to wait to start deporting people who are legal residents, who are not violent criminals because they wrote a pro Palestinian op ed.
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You’re diving into the most contentious issue and then picking one side of that and then like, this just seems like it it’s almost as if you’re trying to to poison the possibility to ever really have mass deportations. It just seems so counterproductive by his own stated goals.
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And
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Well, there’s so many layers of it that are hard to unpack for the average person. What’s really hard to unpack, especially for, like, tried and true blue no matter who Democrats, is this idea that they were bringing people into this country, moving them into swing states, getting them on social security, giving them money and incentives, and all sorts of government programs that would get them eventually to be voters.
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Yeah. And these voters would vote for that party, and you’d have a unit party. So in that sense, that that’s that’s the big one that a lot of people that are left wing people have a really hard time swallowing. They don’t believe that’s true. And they’ll take it well, what about when Texas sent those people up to New York?
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You know, the governor of Texas sent people to New York. Right. But do you know that New York’s not a swing state? Yeah. He did that.
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But why did he do that? He do that as a big fuck you to New York for turning for the government to turning a blind eye to the problem at the border and saying, okay. You you think this isn’t a problem? I’m gonna send this problem to you.
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It was a it was a sanctuary
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state. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You have a sanctuary city? Oh, that’s cute. I’ll send you thousands and thousands of people that you’re gonna have to take care of now. And they did. And then that’s even weirder because then they took over fucking luxury hotels and they had to deal with it. Mhmm. I think it was it Pakistan owns one of those hotels?
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Oh, is that I
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don’t know that. Who owns the the the big one that was in, the fucking Jennifer Lopez movie where she was a hot maid? Remember that movie? Maid in Manhattan.
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I never saw it, but I vaguely remember. I watched
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it recently with my family. It’s the most ridiculous thing. She’s ai 10. She’s just ai this poor little sad maid. Pakistan International Airlines has owned the structure. They own the Roosevelt. So the Roosevelt’s an iconic hotel in New York City, and they get paid by the federal government, or they did get paid by the federal government to house immigrations immigrants there.
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And they give them food, and they give them money. They give them and, like, what are you doing? Like, if you’re allowing these people to vote in regional elections, okay, you’ve essentially now you’ve you’ve bought regional elections. And if you want them to eventually become United States citizens and give them a pathway to citizenship, which all good people would want, Dave Smith. Okay.
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Now you have voters. And if you do that in mass, which they did, they brought people in this they invited people, helped people. The Red Cross was, like, giving them maps. Like, this is how you do it. They had stops along the way.
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We give them water and you walk right through when everybody just gets to be on a bus and you get shipped off to swing states. That literally happened. And people on the left do not sana to address it. They wanna deny it. It was an attempt to take over.
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Yeah. And, look, I’ll say I just I know this because I’m like, you know, this is I guess that one of the benefits of, like, getting older and paying attention to this shit is, like, I can remember shit from fifteen, twenty years ago. Like, I was paying attention then. And I remember all of them admitting this was their plan. Yeah.
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Like, literally, all of the Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow and all they used to call it the Browning of Meh, and they used to openly brag about how the Democrat will have super permanent majorities forever. Because look ai, hey, you old dying white Republicans, like, sorry, that’s it for you because the Latinos vote overwhelmingly for Democrat, and we’re gonna be a majority minority country and then a majority Hispanic country, and then the Democrats rule the day forever.
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So this is just, you know, Mitt Romney or whoever’s running for president right now. This is the dying throes of the end of a but then when people started objecting to that policy, and they they called it the Browning of America. And then when people objected to it, they would call it the great replacement or whatever. And then they’d go, you’re not allowed to say that.
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That means you’re a Nazi. And you’re like, but I just heard you saying it. Like, five years ago, I heard you saying it.
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You can’t use the term replacement standard.
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And sai there was this weird and then there was also the, also the, one of the other big tells of this was the way they attempted, which really failed, but the way they attempted to make voter ID ai a toxic racist policy, which was so I mean, the logic of it just collapses on itself because if it’s first of all, it seems like some bigotry of low expectations to imply that black people are, like, just can’t figure out how to get ID.
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Do you remember Kathy Hochul saying that they don’t know what computers are?
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Yeah. Hey. Hey. Yeah. That’s right. Yeah. Do you remember that video?
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That is the
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craziest person that every
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fucking human being has a computer in their pocket.
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Dude, what was the the black dude who made that video? It was the funniest guy there. I think you sent it to me. But he was, like, there was, like, a computer and who comes in and is, like, dancing around it. And he’s, like, trying, like, trying to bite it and stuff too. It was so goddamn funny where you’re, like, that’s literally what you’re saying. Like, I don’t know.
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And it’s, like, spliced. Like, on the left side of it is her explaining that black people don’t know.
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Looking at it with this all. Inner city kids, they don’t know what a computer is. Well, but then, I mean, like, just, you know, just like using the most basic logic, you’d be like, okay. Wait a minute. But, like so if requiring ID is racist, then, like, we got some other really big problems in this country that we should be looking at
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like that. Well, not only that, but it’s in the direct memory, the recent memory of everybody needing ID because you had to prove that you got the COVID vaccine.
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Right. Right. Yeah. Which then and then that was fine. Somehow that and when that, by the way, disproportionately affected minorities Yeah. No one seemed no progressives seemed to care about that No. That it was overwhelmingly black people, wildly disproportionately black people and immigrants who just refused the vaccine.
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By the way, let the record show, they were smarter than everybody else for doing it. You know who else? Me and you? PhDs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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That that is an interesting detail, isn’t it? Overwhelmingly.
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Mhmm. Like, overwhelmingly skeptical about this new vaccine.
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And here meh and you got called out by Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden for fucking being ai, for being absolutely right. I mean, it’s it’s so wild too that that that was only, three years ago or four years ago when you said that your advice to young people was to just be really healthy, and that was, like, a national controversy that you just think of it.
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I mean, you just think about how upside down
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everything else. People doing the man’s job for the man. It was everybody piled on. Like, every and especially once you got the shot yourself, you’re ai, I did the right thing because you knew it was risky. You fucking know it’s risky.
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On some level too.
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Yeah. Absolutely. It’s medication. Anytime you get medication, you know it’s risky. Anytime you get some pharmaceutical drug in your system, not to mention some completely novel new way where it turns your entire body into a vaccine or an immunity producing spike protein factory.
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The ai the way, which is the most toxic aspect of getting the disease is the spike protein, so your body’s gonna produce it itself. What? Yeah. PhDs were ai, I don’t know.
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And it was also way past way, way, way past the point where we had already figured out that, like, if you weren’t very old and very sick, this was you Yeah. Statistically had almost no chance of, like, a serious incident.
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We had very long ago realized it wasn’t a threat at all to kids. Yep. So there was no justification whatsoever to force kids to get vaccinated, and yet we did it. And California did it. They did it to schools. They did it everywhere. And the fact that they pulled that off, and then a couple years later, they’re ai, you don’t need sai ID. So vote?
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Yeah. Why do you
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need ID to vote? That’s racist. In California, you’re not allowed to show ID. You’re not allowed to show ID.
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So, like, come on. I mean, listen. Obviously, this is and, like, there’s a reason for all of this. It’s not they didn’t just pick showing your ID voting and decide to make this the issue that they harped on and tried to pretend you were somehow racist or you were somehow infringing on voting rights by requiring an ID.
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And so look, like, ai this did a a couple of things happened. Number one, it totally turned public opinion against this this level of of crazy immigration. And number two, I mean, Donald Trump ended up winning Latino vote than Ai believe any Republican in my life,
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which is really I mean Especially after Tony Inchcliff. That’s pretty wild.
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I think Tony Inchcliff, he might have gotten him more votes. It seemed
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like Listen. Nobody takes a joke better than Puerto Ricans, by
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the way. By the way, it there is something really funny about that where, and this has been a theme for for years in the country, but real Tony was a great example of that. But we’re, ai, you know, for all their talk about diversity and anti racism and all of this, what they always seem to do is try to impose white lady values on minorities.
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You You know what I mean? Like, just imagine you know who’s That’s
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a great way to put it, white lady values.
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It’s always white lady values. It’s always you know who’s really offended by a joke? Well As as we both know, Joe, as professional comedians for many years, you know, black people just get very offended by jokes. No. They fucking don’t. That’s white women. That’s white women’s shit. That’s not Latinos or African Americans. They are they they’re the ones who take a joke the best.
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Especially a good joke.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, also, like, the the more offensive, the better. Like, they love that shit. I mean, by and large, like, there’s exceptions.
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Well, there’s exceptions for sure. But Puerto Ricans are known, like, if you grew up around Puerto Ricans, they’re fun and they talk a lot of shit. Yes. It’s part of the culture.
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Yep. They’re So it’s ai you’re trying to, you know there’s something about it that was always, like it’s always the liberal push for, diversity is always, like, we want different shades of people in our culture. Right. You know what I mean? Like, it was never ai there was never a thing
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where it’s like, oh, we’re gonna
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go into the hood and we’re gonna adopt your culture. Like, that’s not what we’re talking about.
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Which is why they hate black Republicans.
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01:49:31
Yep. That’s a big a big part
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of it. That’s a problem. They they go after black Republicans so hard. Even harder, I think, than they go after a lot of white Republicans.
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Oh, in some cases, much more viciously. Yeah. Yeah. Ai mean and and I think by you know, we talked to you about Candace Owens before. That’s part of what her freaking, you know, boot camp before pissing off all the Israeli supporters was, is that she’s already been through the fire. Yeah.
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And she’s been an outspoken black female conservative. And that’s ai, they really hate that because they do kind of view you as like which is fucked up in a way, but it really is kind of, like, you’re they decided that they’re the champion of women and black people. And therefore, if you’re a black woman, it’s your responsibility to support these liberal white women.
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You know? Shah used to. That’s the thing about Candace.
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Right. She went from she went from being
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very young. She was liberal. And then she
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was also a hardcore Zionist, at one point, like, very big supporter of Israel and then changed her mind on that. But it is you know, there there is a a viciousness which with which those people get attacked. I do think and I still I think I said this the last time we were on, the last time I was on, but I still do think that in many ways, that’s the best part of Donald Trump winning again is just the cultural phenomenon of it, where it does seem like there’s been a big rejection of all of that shit.
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Mhmm. You know, I, I had a I had dinner with, with, Daryl last ai. With Daryl Cooper? Daryl Cooper and, with Daryl Cooper and Scott Horton. And we’re talking a little bit about this, but, like, what happened first of all, I meh the record show, for both good and bad.
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I was promoting Darryl Cooper before everybody else was. I was the first guy. Not meh maybe not the first, but I was like, yo, this guy’s podcast is amazing, and it really, really is. But there was something so interesting about, like, his Tucker appearance, the backlash against it, the fact that it did absolutely nothing to harm him and his podcast just shot up on all the charts, and now more people than ever are listening to his stuff.
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Ai, there there is, like, and I do I’ve seen a lot of this, and I’ve gotten into some arguments with some like, Konstantin Kasin. I’ve argued with him about this. I respect him very much. I like him a lot. I think he’s very smart.
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But there are, ai, there there are these woke tactics now that are being used by many people, who have been opposing wokeism for a very long time. And I think it’s interesting how much people have woken up to that, no pun intended, but how much people, like, kinda recognize that now, and that stuff has just been rejected.
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And even, like, on the most basic level, the thing first of all, the fact that there was such an outrage for what Daryl Cooper said on Tucker Carlson’s podcast already proves the point. It already proves the point that you’re ai, yeah. This is insane. This is insane that the this like, you’re not even you can’t even, like, have a conversation about these things without this massive pile on, this barely Not
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only that. These pejoratives that get Yes. Is stuck on him, that got stuck on me for platforming him. Yeah. I read Joe Rogan had a Nazi apologist and Holocaust denier. Well Or skeptic. I think they said Holocaust skeptic. I forget what what term they use, but none of those things are true.
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And none of them I I mean, he’s got this big I I’m very excited, for it, but he’s he’s putting together this big, piece on World War two. And, like, none of them are gonna come back and go, oh, yeah. I got it wrong. I ai. Because he’s totally not doing that at all.
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If they were, they would have listened to Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem.
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Well, I said this to I said this to Konstantin when we were arguing about it on Twitter. And I go, listen, dude. I go, listen. Just take I I called it my non woke challenge. I go take my non woke challenge. Okay? All it takes is an hour of your time. Listen to the first thirty minutes of Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem, and then listen to the thirty minutes in the, like, he he put out another piece after it.
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I forget the title of it, but it it took from the history where Fear and Loathing left off up to, like, the eighties. Mhmm. And there was a, in it started, like, around or maybe it was part of Fear and Loathing. But anyway, he had a half hour chunk that was on the Jews suffering in World War two.
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And I was like, so listen to these two half hours, and you tell me if it is conceivably possible that a Jew hating Nazi sympathizer could have ever put this out because it’s impossible. Ai,
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it can’t.
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01:53:48
And he goes, I have listened to it. And I was like, oh, well, then we can’t talk anymore, Ram. Sai ai, not in general, but I was like, we can’t talk about this anymore. But I I think there’s something almost more simple that was ai, look. If you listen to what Daryl said on Tucker’s podcast, he essentially goes he goes, you know, I say this sometimes to get a rise out of my buddy, who’s like an Anglo Saxon.
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01:54:09
And I’m kinda being hyperbolic when I say it, but I I kinda say it to prod. But in some ways, I think Churchill was the real villain of the war. Now he didn’t commit the most atrocities. I’m not saying he was the worst person there, but I think he’s primarily responsible for this not being maybe ai a little conflict in Poland and turning into, like, the big bloodbath that it did.
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01:54:26
Okay. Say whatever you will about that. There’s a fair argument to be there. I tend to think Daryl’s right, but maybe, maybe he’s not. But every single person who repeated that would go, he said Churchill was the was the real villain. And you’re like, you know what, dude? We’re not doing that anymore.
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01:54:45
Like, we’re just we’re not very fine people on both sides in this whole thing. Like, come on, dude. No. That’s not what he fucking said. And you could take out all that other con but any honest person looking at that just goes ai, no. That’s not what he said.
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01:54:57
And, you know, in and I was on Piers Morgan’s shah. One more shout out to Pierce. But but it even when he played the clip, he cut out all that context and just played the part where he says the real villain or was was Churchill. And you’re like, I think people have after so many years of this being the constant tactic to, like like it’s like there’s a there’s a giant rejection of that, and I think that’s really good.
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01:55:22
Ai think a lot of that has to do with Trump winning again. I mean, there’s other factors involved too. But I do just think it’s like these woke tactics of, like, where you call everyone who disagrees with you a racist or a bigot or this is just not like, we’re not playing that game anymore.
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01:55:35
Or at least it seems ai most people aren’t playing that game anymore.
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01:55:39
Yeah. It’s not gonna work anymore. And the people that are that have their minds made up, that have just knee jerk reaction, they’re gonna decide someone’s a Nazi or someone’s a Hitler apologist, they’re not looking into it at all anyway. They they have this cursory examination of the ai, good enough, I wanna run with it. I wanna argue with it. There’s always gonna be people like that.
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01:56:00
But the majority of people are, like, what is this all about? What did he actually say? Well, let me listen to his shah. And then the show shoots up to number one. Yeah. You know, and it shot up to number one again after he was on my ai.
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01:56:10
The same kind of thing. It’s ai, it’s a fucking great show. It’s a great show. And it’s not just great about Israel. It’s not just great about World War two. His fucking thing on Jim Jones is insane. Sai good. It’s so good. It’s so insane. And he does that with everything.
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01:56:26
And he has empathy and compassion and and and a a a general ai, a general desire to empathize and see how someone could join this cult. How Jim Jones can turn from this guy who was a civil rights leader.
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01:56:44
Yeah.
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01:56:44
He was a civil rights leader in the nineteen fifties. I mean, this guy was living in a time where he had adopted a black child and was persecuted all throughout town because of it. It was genuinely like a real Christian. Then he’s hopped up on meth. He’s out of his fucking mind.
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01:57:01
Now he’s in Guyana, and he’s got a whole group of people with him. He talks small into killing themselves. And the ones who don’t, they he kills them. And, yeah, it’s a crazy tragedy. But what Daryl Cooper does is long form editorial like, you got you have to look at it from an editorial aspect because it’s it’s opinion, but it’s also information that he he’s citing his sources and he’s ex like, put yourself in these people’s shoes, which is what he does.
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01:57:31
Which is essentially his only, like, demand. Yeah. It’s through all of his work. His only demand is, like, listen, you have to. If you’re gonna listen to my work, you have to do your absolute best to put yourself in these person’s shoes and then put yourself in the other side’s shoes.
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01:57:45
Fear and loathing in New Jerusalem starts out with Jews being persecuted. Imagine these people are your neighbors. Yep. And he he brings you through And he he brings you through this horrific scenario that absolutely did happen to some of the people there.
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01:57:58
And you don’t it’s it’s cool the way I mean, I don’t let it spoil or alert or whatever. It’s just the beginning, but it’s so good. But, like, you almost don’t know what he’s talking about at first. You’re like, is this a Palestinian getting fucked over? Is this because the story’s about you know going in, this is gonna be about the creation of the state of Israel or whatever.
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01:58:13
But then you ai, like, oh, no. This is a Jew in Eastern Europe going through a pogrom. And I will say this. Right? As somebody who, is, fairly well read on the subject compared to, like, the layman, not compared to Daryl Cooper, there’s levels to this shit.
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01:58:28
It’s ai, I used to think Rich Franklin was the best striker in the world, and then Anderson Silva fought him. And you’re like, oh, okay. He is not. By the way, Rich Franklin was great, but Anderson Silva was amazing. But listening to that series, it it made me much more sympathetic to the Israelis, if I’m being honest.
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01:58:43
And I know I’ve heard that from other people too, but it does because Daryl insists on doing that. Like, look, it’s real it’s easy. Ai I’m not saying I’m not saying this is an excuse for anything. Like, the the Nakba in 1947, ’19 ’40 ‘8 is horrible. Ai was a giant ethnic cleansing campaign. You know? Okay. But if you do put this into context, you know, like, the year’s 1947. Okay?
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01:59:07
First of all, just think about, like, even the attitudes of 1947 that you know of, like, you know, just in terms of racism and things like that. Like, very different attitudes in 1947. Also, you’re two years removed from the end of World War two, where the, quote, good guys in the story arya or the winners in the story are ai ai Bryden who just firebombed Tokyo, dropped two nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bombing of Dresden, the bombing of Berlin.
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01:59:43
Joseph Stalin is in the process sai this is happening as this is happening of ethnically cleansing millions of of ethnic Germans all throughout Eastern Europe. This is only a a couple years after Stalin’s army raped their way through Europe. You know what I mean? And then, of course, there’s the atrocities of the Nazis, and you’re the Jewish people who just went through this holocaust.
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02:00:03
And all of this is in the background, and you’re gonna say, you tell me we can’t move a few hundred thousand people off their land to create our new state? Like, who’s gonna fucking morally lecture us about doing this little thing here? You know? And, like, I’m not saying any of that excuses it.
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02:00:15
And it wasn’t the Palestinians’ fault that any of that happened. And so, like, you but, like, it is worthwhile. Like, that’s what doing history should be. Right? It should be, like, understanding that these were real human beings. These aren’t cartoon monsters.
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02:00:28
There there was a now they may have done monstrous shit, but, like, there was something, you know, going on there. And there was kind of, like, you know, it it’s I think it’s just beneficial to understand all of that stuff. And, you know, Menachem Begin, who is, like, the worst, I mean, like, was a straight up terrorist.
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02:00:48
I mean and and in that series, if you remember, he he talks a lot about, like, how the evil shit that Menachem Begin and the Ergon and the Stern gang and the Hagenar, all the the shit they did. And they were just straight up terrorists. That’s what they were doing. Terrorism, in order to drive out an occupying force, you can’t make this shit up, is what led to the creation of Israel.
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02:01:09
And now they’re, like, you know
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02:01:11
Not universally regarded as terrorist groups.
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02:01:13
Oh, you self admitted terrorist groups. Like, we’re committing acts of terrorists. There were debates about whether we should embrace terrorism or not, and the ai saying we should embrace terrorism won the day. This is how Haim Weitzman he was supposed to be the David Ben Gurion.
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02:01:26
He was the number one ranked, Zionist at the tyler, and he stood up and was like, ai. We can’t do this. We can’t embrace terrorism. Like, his thing was, like, we can’t achieve a Jewish state by un Jewish means, and which he considered terrorism to be. Like, this violates our religion.
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02:01:42
We can’t do this. But even him, there was this one point, which I had never heard before, but I learned it from Daryl Cooper’s series. Sai think it was probably the one of the things that stuck with me the most was that, if you remember, it’s right toward the end. It’s when they’re they’re doing the, you know, they’re doing the King David hotel bombing, and they’re doing all this terrorism to try to drive the drive the British out.
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02:02:02
And at one point, the British, like, caught a few of the I can’t remember if it was, from the Ergon or the Lehigh, but it was from one of those two militias. And they caught a few of their guys, and they, like, publicly flogged them or something like that. And then Menachem Begin and his terrorist boys, they got a few, of, like, the of the British soldiers, and they fucking flogged the shit out of them and then killed them and then booby trapped the bodies so that it fucking blew up more people when they came to try to get it back.
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02:02:31
And that now he’s a wanted man at this time, Menachem Begin, so he’s, like, living underground. And so he then he did, like, a radio address. And in his radio address, he was, like, he said something ai he was, like, hey. Just so you know, Jews don’t get flogged anymore. We do the flogging now.
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02:02:48
And look, this guy was a bad guy. He was a fucking terrorist. But there is something so badass about that that there is a party that’s just ai, whoo. Like, you you can kind of understand a people going through this fucking collective struggle and then getting to a point where they’re like, we will be the ones inflicting struggle from now on, not the ones receiving it.
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02:03:08
Right.
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02:03:09
And I’d you know, look, I still come out on the side that I think Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is is horrible and excusable, and I favor a two state solution. I think America should stop funding Israel. But I think it’s nothing but beneficial to kind of, like, understand that perspective a little bit more.
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02:03:24
And even though I kinda grew up on the pro Israel propaganda and then ultimately rejected it, That was Daryl’s effect on meh, was being ai, you know, there is, like, I’m seeing the humanity in the Israeli side a little bit more. Yeah. So give me a fucking break about these people saying, like, he’s some fucking neo Nazi drumming up Jew hatred. It’s not true.
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02:03:43
Yeah. They just said they just have established boundaries of what you’re allowed to talk about.
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02:03:49
Yeah. That’s exactly right.
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02:03:50
Yeah. And there’s there’s, you know, there’s narratives that can’t be breached. You have to you have to follow it to a t, and that’s it. That’s it. And anything else, you’re, anti Semite. And, you know, he’s labeled all over the place. I’m sure his Wikipedia calls him that. I’m ai. Yeah.
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02:04:07
I mean, it’s just it there’s so many people that have really irresponsibly done that and defamed him. And it’s it’s fucked up, but ultimately, it doesn’t work. It just makes him bigger.
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02:04:18
I I 100% agree. And then I also think that it’s, it’s almost like it’s very obvious, I think, if you’re looking at it with clear ai, that it’s like, look, like okay. Look. Look. I’m Jewish, and I don’t wish to see a rise in people hating Jewish people. Like, that obviously, I’d be opposed to that.
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02:04:37
But you’re gonna you’re if you’re gonna say that anybody who criticizes the government of Israel or anybody who criticizes the Israeli lobby and the, unbelievable influence that that has over the our our government, and you’re gonna label all of them as anti Semites, Like, alright.
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02:04:57
Sai would think that it would be wiser to at least be thankful that there are people who are not Jew haters who are pointing this out rather than just leaving it to all the Jew haters to be the only ones Right. Who are are pointing this out. Like, you know, it’s like, you think Daryl Cooper is like, okay. Like, what’s your goal here? To shut him down?
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02:05:16
Who do you think’s gonna replace him? You better hope that they’re gonna be as thoughtful and responsible as he is. Right. And they probably won’t be.
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02:05:23
Not too many people are. But that’s how it always is. Right? I mean, this is this is the the problem with suppression. The problem I mean, it’s it’s essentially a version of the same problem of creating terrorists. You attack because you think you’re gonna stop the terrorism, you just create more terrorism.
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02:05:39
You know, you think you’re gonna stop people from expanding the narrative and and talking outside of these borders that you’ve clearly established for how people are able to discuss certain sensitive topics? No, you’re not. You’re not gonna do that. You’re just gonna make people realize that there’s a third rail, and they don’t understand why there’s a third rail, and then they start looking into it, and they go, oh, how much influence does Israel have on our country?
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02:06:03
And then they arya asking those ai of questions, and and this gives way to the rise of antisemitism. I think suppression of people’s ability to talk about very polarizing topics ai Gaza, suppression of that is a cause of antisemitism. Because people start start thinking, like, is there some sort of grand plan to control us and keep me from being able to talk about something that clearly is in the news every day?
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02:06:29
It seems like a big issue.
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02:06:30
Yeah. Well, there’s also, you know, like, to the thing literally, this is my origin story of being the guy that I am now, being obsessed with all this stuff, was seeing Ron Paul versus Rudy Rudy Giuliani in 02/2007 at the Republican ai debate. And Rudy Giuliani is arguing about how the terrorists hate us for our freedom.
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02:06:52
And then Ron Paul, who I’d never heard of, just like this country doctor from Texas with an r next to his name, starts going ai, no. You know, they don’t hate us for our freedom. They hate us because we’re over there. Like, how would we feel if somebody else was doing to us what we’re doing to them? And then Rudy Giuliani is like, shah.
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02:07:10
That that’s a pretty absurd explanation that the reason they did nine eleven is because we were bombing Iraq. And he goes, I’ve heard a lot of absurd explanations for nine eleven, and I’ve never heard anything that ridiculous, which, by the way, was in Osama bin Laden’s declaration of war on America.
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02:07:26
So, like, to be like, I’ve never heard of this is not quite the brag or flex that you think it is. And then Ron Paul just fucking schooled them ai was like, you know, he was like, you know who came up with the term blowback? The CIA because it’s a real thing.
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02:07:40
Yeah.
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02:07:40
There is blowback. And if we think we can go around the world and do whatever we want to people and that’s not gonna incite hatred, we do that at our own peril. Like, let’s be but for whatever reason for me, it was always kinda just easy to connect that. Like, I I remember, you remember, there was the scene in Good Will Hunting where, like, at the end when he breaks him and he’s like, it’s not your fault.
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02:08:03
It’s not your fault. And he starts crying. But there they he finally gets him to start talking about the abuse he went through in his ai. And Matt Damon’s character is is talking about it, and he’s like, he’s like, oh, he used to lay, like, a a stick, a belt, and a wrench on the table and tell me to speak.
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02:08:20
And, and Robin Williams was like, I’d have to go with the stick on that one. And he goes, I used to pick the wrench. And he was like, why would you pick the wrench? And he goes, because fuck him. That’s why. And, like, okay.
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02:08:30
There’s something about that that I was always very easy for me to understand. Like, you just get to a point where it’s like, yeah. Because fuck you. It’s like, why would why would some Palestinian who’s let’s sai, there’s there’s an Israeli who kicks him out of his house that his grandfather built, that his family’s been living in for a hundred years.
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02:08:49
And now that Israeli guy is living in his house, and you’re watching from, like, a refugee camp. This guy live in your house. And as Daryl says in the series, he goes, now you have no means by which to give that house back to your grandmother, but you could burn that house to the fucking ground.
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02:09:05
And, like, it’s easy to look there and go, but why would you do that? That’s irrational. It’s ai, no. Not really. It’s really not. Because it’s picking the wrench.
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02:09:12
It’s going because fuck you. You know what I mean? Right. And they’re like, all of these things, it there’s always, like, reactionary movements. And, ai, so, again, like, this it sai, okay. Yes.
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02:09:22
You’re gonna sit here and for fucking fifteen years, tell young white men that they’re toxic and they’re the problem sana their masculinity is inherently wrong. What do you think’s gonna come out of that? And then, like, the same people are like, where did this Andrew Tate guy pop up from?
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02:09:37
And you’re like, you made him. You made him. If you wanted to make him, you couldn’t have done a better job. Look. That’s the whole fucking story of the Nazis to begin with. That we imposed the Treaty of Versailles and insisted on internationally humiliating these people and crushing them.
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02:09:51
And then fucking, oh, where’d these Nazis come from? It has a reaction to that, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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02:09:57
And we never learn. That’s what’s fucked. Do you think we’re gonna learn more now? I mean, you you have to ai, if you’re thinking about history, this is the first time where people have this kind of access to all the different layers that are in operation all over the world.
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02:10:14
And if you’re paying attention, and most people aren’t, but if you’re paying attention, you have a much broader understanding of all the things that are at play than ever before, and how these things could be avoided. And I think that’s one of the reasons why people were excited about Trump getting into office when he was saying, I can stop that war in one day.
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02:10:34
I can we can make deals. There’s deals that could be made. You know, we can we’d stop all the killings. Everybody’s like, yeah. Finally, someone is not gonna do it the way we’ve done it before.
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02:10:44
I think there’s I’m, I’m incredibly, like, optimistic on a long, like, time period. I think that, like, exactly what you just sai. I mean, it’s it’s the the propaganda apparatus has been completely destroyed. Like, it’s just not you know, there’s and there’s been this, I I really do think, a massive awakening. There’s there’s several factors to this.
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02:11:12
I think COVID is the biggest single one. You know, I think that there’s there was something about imposing such draconian measures on the domestic population. Like, look, we start a lot of wars over bullshit, but the the truth is for most Americans, that’s kinda over there somewhere.
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02:11:30
And we’re living our lives and, you know, like, you might be against it, but it’s a different thing than, like, instituting totalitarianism in The United States Of America, which lockdowns were objectively. And they did it not only it’s just that they got it all wrong. It’s that it was, you know, they were fucking lying.
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02:11:48
Like, you motherfuckers made the thing, and you knew you did. And then you covered it up. Like, there is even now this is, like, everywhere. It’s like the shit that we used to talk about a few years ago that was, like, the controversial, you know, conversations. Everyone’s talking about them now.
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02:12:01
It was just Bill Maher the other day brought up that, like, yeah. You know, how crazy is it that we figured out that British intelligence in March of twenty twenty said that I forget what it was, but they said with 85% certainty, this came from the lab. You know? And then so they did all of this, and they got it completely wrong, and they were so full of shit that that’s ai that spell’s been broken.
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02:12:21
People see this now. I do think you’re right that there was, like, a tremendous look. You know, as Ron Paul used to always say, the peace candidate always wins. I mean, like, if you in the year February, George w Bush, he he campaigned on a humble foreign policy. No nation building.
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02:12:42
No using our not being the policeman of the world with our military. It’s a people who remember. That’s what he ran and won on. Barely won, but still he won on that. And then in 02/2004, you know, John Kerry refused to run against the war, and that’s why he wasn’t able to win.
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02:12:55
And then in 02/2008, Barack Obama ran on a peace campaign, you know, destroyed Hillary Clinton in the primary ai had all the institutional money, all the big support behind her, but she had voted for the war in Iraq. And Obama said, hey. That was a big mistake. She you can’t give her the presidency when she made such a big mistake. People went, you know what? That’s right.
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02:13:12
You know? And even though he wasn’t in the sana yet when the war in Iraq was going on, he hadn’t he didn’t vote for the thing. And he said some beautiful things about closing Gitmo and ending torture and not fighting stupid wars, and and he won, like, a dominant victory. And then in 02/2016, Donald Trump ran and won on we’re gonna stop fighting these stupid and then in 02/2024, again, he wins on this like, the American people have spoken.
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02:13:36
Now that’s a very different thing than the regime machinery vatsal, so that’s a different, you know, battle. But the public the battle of public opinion on that has been won. And then I do think, even though, Jamie told us before the show started that there’s now they’re saying Elon Musk is, gonna be stepping away from Doge soon.
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02:13:56
And and, yes, it’s true that Doge didn’t actually get any drastic cuts through, but it is amazing what they have done in terms of, like, bringing to the cultural forefront the issue of how corrupt government is. And sai, anyway, the my long term thing is that Ai think go I I think corrupt regimes, which, unfortunately, we live under one, I think they are completely dependent on propaganda.
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02:14:21
And that propaganda just broke. You know? Like, it we’re just getting out of that now. Yeah. And I think there’s there’s, like, amazing possibilities.
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02:14:29
Dude, Ai I mean, three years ago, four years ago, I couldn’t have imagined we’d be here now. Like, I just couldn’t imagine that, like, the COVID restrictions have been completely defeated. Wokeism seems to have been, like, pretty much defeated. You know, like, this is already just incredible.
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02:14:45
Yeah. It’s incredible. It’s interesting. And there’s a lot of possibilities. It could go a bunch of different ways. And there’s also examples of it going ai, like what’s happening in The UK and what’s happening in other parts of Europe where the totalitarian measures are ramping up.
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02:15:01
And they didn’t win the war on woke. In fact, they
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lost No. That’s true. That’s true.
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02:15:05
They lost that war. And I think that’s a a shining example of the difference between what we tolerate in America. Having the first amendment, having that freedom of speech, and then also having the second amendment, the ability to back that up. The you know, people are always gonna use your I mean, I remember even Biden was talking about that.
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02:15:22
You’re gonna you’re gonna you’re gonna fight off of a fucking jet with your your ai. Like, that’s ridiculous. Like, no. But guess what? You can’t just do what they did in Australia and shah people off to camps in America. Yeah. Try that shit in Georgia.
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02:15:36
Well, it’s so stupid too because number one, the Taliban just did that to you, sir. Like, literally, you just pulled out in disgrace of a war that you couldn’t win against a bunch of illiterate goat herders with rifles. So Not only
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02:15:48
that, we left behind billions of dollars of weapons. They got
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02:15:52
a lot more rifles now.
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And they go on parades with them Yeah. Where they’re driving tanks down the street and flying over fucking Blackhawks.
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02:16:00
But the but, of course, the point is that, well, meh, if if the US military decided to nuke its own, you know, population, yes, you’re ai. Our guns wouldn’t do any good. But the point is that that’s not they’re trying to do. They’re trying to rule us. And, like, yeah. Of course, having guns like, I look. I I don’t know, by the way. Let’s say, like, the the Jews in in Nazi Germany had had been well armed.
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02:16:25
Would that have been enough to stop the Holocaust? Or, like, if the Ukrainians had been well armed, would that have been enough to stop the genocide that Stalin inflicted on them or whatever? But I’d be better they are than not. Like, I don’t know. Like, yeah.
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02:16:39
It it might at least give them a a second to go, like, well, we can’t go, you know. And the truth is, like, if you were to try just think it the the state that we’re in right now, it’s ai, what? Let’s say they were just, like, tomorrow, some leader was, like, we’re rounding up all the guns in Texas. Like, no. You’re fucking not. Good luck. Yeah.
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02:16:58
You’ll have a civil war on your hands. Meh, these people are not giving up their guns voluntarily. And the thing about people who won’t give up their guns voluntarily is if you try to force them to it, they have guns.
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02:17:07
Especially if they think you’re gonna shoot them. Yeah. Yeah. You’re coming with guns. They have guns. Now you have a fight. Yeah. That’s right. And that’s terrifying. And then you’re also you’re paying someone to go do that. That’s a regular person. Like, this is the thing about people in the army or in the police.
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02:17:21
These are just regular folks.
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02:17:23
Who tend to lean right wing and tend to light guns and and the saloni meh. Yeah. Who may not be so keen on, you know, taking away the second amendment. No.
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02:17:30
And they’ll understand that this is a totalitarian meh, and then what’s gonna happen is it’s gonna be the collapse of what we understand of as America. We we just America is we think of America in terms of our ability to express ourselves first and our ability to defend ourselves.
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02:17:46
Yeah. No. That’s why it’s number one and number two. And it’s not to say that this is the entire reason because, obviously, things like, there’s many different variables and factors, and there it’s sai complicated history. But the a huge part of the reason why America is the most prosperous, most successful country, and and has largely been the freest country in the history of the world is because of that.
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02:18:07
Because the first thing we enshrined in our bill of rights was ai, listen, meh. The government is and that’s and it’s not, you know, it’s it’s not what the people are allowed to do. It’s what the government is not allowed to do to the people. Congress shall write no law. Per you ai, like, this is, like, it’s the fact that this is the only country in the history of the world that was started on that premise Yeah.
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02:18:29
And then has gone on to be the most dominantly successful country in the history of the world is not a coincidence.
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02:18:35
No. It’s not. This is this is freedom’s last battleground.
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02:18:40
Yeah. Yeah. And we’re in the middle of it right now.
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02:18:43
We’re in the middle of it in a weird transitionary ai, where things are being exposed at a level that have never been exposed before, and people have an understanding of how corrupt the system is at a way they’ve never been able to fully comprehend before. You you you know, you have an uncle that tells you, you know, what they do is the CIA sends people. Uncle’s crazy. That guy’s out of his fucking mind.
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02:19:04
Then Mike Benz explains it to you and shows you charts and graphs and brings up articles and has a bit ai documents that have been released and he’s showing you those, like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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02:19:16
Well, I mean, his stuff and Sai mean, look, like the the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. I mean, it’s just like All of it.
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02:19:22
In every in every category that you could imagine. Just what’s happening with the American Heart Association trying to get people to be able to buy sugary drinks and and crap food with food stamps, and then you realize, oh, wait. Look. These companies ai Coca Cola and Pepsi have actually donated to the American Heart Association.
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02:19:43
Yeah. They’re ai And evidently, some, some Twitter influencers too.
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02:19:47
Oh, yeah. Bunch of them. See
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02:19:48
that? Yeah. We have a bunch of, taking in that big Pepsi money, and then they’re going, it is an assault on liberty to tell people they cannot buy Pepsi.
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02:19:58
So many people that have prominent x accounts and prominent, I’m sure, other social media platforms as well. They all said the same thing, and they’re probably being paid. Because a bunch of people were being paid to support Kamala Harris, and there was a bunch of people that exposed that. They showed that the emails that they got.
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02:20:15
We were ai to do this, and you would get paid, like, a considerable amount of money to make some sort of a statement saying that you would vote for that person. And I guess they said, well, if you have 500,000 followers here and a million followers there, and you add all those up and you give this guy $25, this guy $50 moves down.
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02:20:35
11,000,000. No problem.
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02:20:36
By the way, I hear constantly, people, when they attack me on Twitter that I’m getting Russian money or Qatari money. I’ve never got a goddamn check from any of them. Like, get guys, give me the money. I’m already saying the thing, I think. So, like, hey, why not? At this point I’m just kidding. I don’t want your money.
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02:20:51
Well, I I get it all the time. People think that someone’s guiding this show and that I have, someone who tells me what to talk about. Like, I would have never had Kurt Metzger on yesterday
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02:20:59
if that’s the case. That’s when you know no one’s guiding anything. Which Kurt Metzger Kurt, who I love dearly. Everybody.
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02:21:07
He was screaming about Elon. He was screaming about everybody.
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02:21:09
I love Kurt Metzger dearly. I’ve known him for over twenty years. He’s one of the most brilliant comedic minds in the world. But let’s be real, nobody if anyone was guiding anyone with the show, they would never allow Kurt Metzger to be on that show. He is ai he appears sana show, that is proof that there is no big money behind this show.
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02:21:25
Well, the scary thing for people is that there’s not a guide and that it really is the Ai West out here. And that’s that’s real. Like, this like, this show is a great example of that. Because this is the number one show in the world, and this show is literally me and my phone.
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02:21:39
It’s very interesting for me ram from my perspective, and I’m sure much more for you. But, like, from my perspective, it’s just that, like, somebody who’s, like, a regular and and a good friend of yours and has been on the show many times. I mean, I get, you know, constantly, people will always come up to me as, oh, what’s Joe Rogan really like?
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02:21:54
But which is always an interesting question to me because it’s ai, and I always say my answer is always, I go, but you already know. Like, you already know what Joe Rogan’s like. If if you watch the show, you already know what Rogue it’s more of that. It’s ai, I don’t know.
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02:22:07
It’s that or it’s you know, like, I’m not saying, like, there’s not, like, any element of, like, something you might tell a close friend that you wouldn’t say publicly. But, like, generally speaking and this is true, by the way, almost with all of my favorite comedians. You know, people would be like, what was Patrice O’Neil like?
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02:22:20
You’d be like, like Patrice O’Neil. Like, exactly the guy you saw. He was that. A lot more of that.
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02:22:24
Same man.
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02:22:25
Is exactly like that. It’s just always the case. But it was really interesting. At least I I don’t know. It was just so entertaining for me after this last election when it was almost like they finally had to admit the power that you have. You know? Because, like, for all those years and we would always make fun of it over the years.
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02:22:41
But, like, Brian Stelter would be on CNN and he’d be ai, the fringe Joe Rogan is over here. He’s very controversial. And he’d be like, controversial? It’s ai, these are 15,000,000 people listening to his show and you’re struggling to break 200,000. How do you get to say he’s fringe? You know?
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02:22:56
Like but it’s almost like they had to admit after this last election, they’re like, oh, shit. And then the way they start going, oh, we need our own Joe Rogan or we need our own this. And it’s just Sai don’t know. It’s very interesting where it’s like, man, talk about, like, you guys just
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02:23:10
don’t get it. Well, my favorite one was there was a guy on CNN saying that there’s a well funded network of right wing influencers that are organized. And they were trying to make this argument.
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02:23:23
And who are the people, like Theo and you?
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02:23:25
Jen Psaki was trying to make this argument with Jon Stewart.
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02:23:29
Oh, yes. And Stewart called her out. I mean, he was like, yeah. No. That’s not right.
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02:23:33
No. It’s she she was like, well, it’s a a right wing movement. She’s like, it’s more of a comedian libertarian movement. Yeah.
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02:23:40
Yeah. That’s Which ai, I think, is more ai, you know I mean, I I think Ai mean, I think generally speaking, like, you know, as you’ve always said, you’re kind of a mix of, like, some kind of more sympathetic to left wing ideas, some more sympathetic to right wing ideas, some sympathetic to libertarian ai.
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02:23:53
But it’s just so especially, like, if you just know the people involved, like, ai you and Theo Vaughn as a right wing network organizer. There’s it’s the most disorganized ai in the history of the world.
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02:24:06
Organized and well funded. I’m not organized and, I guess I’m well funded, but it’s not for that. I can have
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02:24:12
no one has having the audience.
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02:24:13
Yeah. But it’s also it’s like, no one tells me anything. Like, I can have on UFO people. I can have on comedians. No. There’s no feedback. I have no feedback. There’s no exchange between me and Spotify in terms of who you got this speak, what’s the month look like, tell us the big names.
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02:24:34
We they started at the beginning of the deal. They said, okay. Who’s gonna be the people the first week? And my manager’s like, hey. Hey. Hey.
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02:24:42
It’s the same show. You bought the number one show in the country. He’s not doing anything different. And they’re like, well, we would like to get some big names out of the gate.
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02:24:49
Like, ai e e e e e e e.
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02:24:50
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that’s that’s not that’s not what we do here. You know?
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02:24:54
I’m not gonna change. It’s the same show. But the
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02:24:56
thing it’s such a funny thing because it is almost ai it’s like a you know, it’s like somebody in a meh, you know, like, in the corporate media, I’d sai, they’re, like, in a marriage and they’re just lying through their teeth to their spouse. They’re constantly cheating on them. They’re getting caught left and right. Then they’re saying, no. No. No. It wasn’t that.
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02:25:12
It was you, and you’re the bad person and all this. And they’re just, like, the worst, most dishonest, fucking obvious liars. And then they’re, like, looking over at, like, someone in a healthy meh, and they’re, like, so what’s that guy’s trick? Like, how does he do it? And you’re, like, it was, like, he just doesn’t lie to her. He’s he’s nice to her and, like, I don’t know.
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02:25:29
Like, it’s just ai the the thing is the big secret is that you’re authentic and just say what you mean and invite the people on who you’re interested in talking to. And that that was ai the antidote to your insane, tyrannical bullshit.
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02:25:44
It’s also that I started it not for money. I started it for fun, and it didn’t make money for years. And I was independently wealthy. Like, I had money from Fear Factor. Right. And I had money from stand up comedy. I was like, I didn’t have, like, a crazy lifestyle. I was like, I can just I’m fine. Like, this is fun to do. I’m just gonna do this. And then it just got big.
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02:26:03
And it was so new.
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02:26:04
And I never changed it. I just kept doing it this I made it better, got better cameras.
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02:26:09
Yeah. That was it. No. It’s funny. Sometimes you look back at those old, episodes and you’re ai, holy shah. That’s grainy. I don’t remember it being that grainy, but
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02:26:16
it was compared to were terrible back then. And we we just used regular webcams that you go to Fry’s Electronics and buy. We just ai regular fucking USB microphone in the beginning, plug it into a MacBook. The whole thing was so janky. It was ai and now, you know, they think somehow or another because it’s big, well, some it’s been infiltrated. It’s not that I haven’t been offered.
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02:26:38
People have tried to buy percentages of the show and give me large sums of money. And I’m ai, Yeah.
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02:26:44
Yeah. Yeah. That’s the I’m glad you didn’t make that decision.
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02:26:48
Once you have fuck you money, you better say fuck you. Because if you don’t, you’re not you’re ruining the one of the most beautiful gifts the universe can bestow upon a person to never be beholden to money anymore. Just be able to, like, be yourself. Ai what you like to do.
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02:27:05
I,
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02:27:06
Tucker Carlson said about me once, and I thought it was, like, one of the best compliments I’ve ever gotten, and it really meant a lot to Tucker. He’s someone I really admire a lot. But he was it was, I think Patrick Bet David, if I’m meh correctly, he was on his and it was before, like, the the debate with Cuomo had been announced, but it was before it happened.
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02:27:23
Mhmm.
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02:27:23
And,
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02:27:23
Patrick was ai, he’s like, how do you think that’s, gonna go? And Tucker was like, look, man. He’s like, the thing about Dave is he is just totally unencumbered by any restraints. You know, like, there’s no I I mean, I think what he meant was just, like, there’s no one who’s, like, cutting his check.
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02:27:40
There’s no one who’s, like there’s nothing that holds him back. Ai, I get to do the biggest show in the world a lot because you like what I have to say. And so then that’s it. It’s not like there’s no I I feel no, like, man, I wish I could say this, but I really can’t say that.
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02:27:53
And there’s something about that that is, like, that’s the new thing. And I’ll say, I think you and look. This is what’s really crazy. Right? Like, the impact of what you did during this election going forward is gonna be and I know you don’t like when I, like, suck your dick too much, but I’m just saying.
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02:28:11
There’s the fact that Trump did the show got such a great response from it. Kamala Harris refused and then tried to get you to change what the show was and then obviously in ai, like, oh, you know, the conventional wisdom is you really should have done that. The new normal now going forward for presidential elections is gonna be that the expectation is that you can and not just your show.
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02:28:38
I’m not saying, like, you’re you have to have the candidates on every single four years, although I think you should, but that’s your choice, obviously. But the new expectation the expectation used to be that two or three times, a presidential candidate is gonna have to go do one of these CNN debates where they will be asked these, like, very narrow questions.
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02:28:56
They’ll have ninety seconds to respond. You know, it’ll be Obama. You know, how do you feel we do this in the war on terrorism? Go, like, well, first of all, thank you, and thank you for coming out, and we appreciate
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02:29:05
this good.
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02:29:06
Fluff and bullshit and blah blah blah, and then then hope you change it. Glass of water? Meh. Exact like, there but nothing. Just emptiness. Nothing happens. And now the expectation is that you gotta go have an organic, unscripted, three hour conversation and probably do it a few different times with a few of the big shows.
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02:29:22
Right. And you meh, you know, like, you get to kinda see that person in a whole different way than we’ve ever gotten to see presidential candidates before. And the truth is that a candidate like Kamala Harris will never be a major party nominee again. A candidate who is this, what’s what’s her running mate?
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02:29:41
It’s a Waltz Tim Waltz.
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02:29:42
Tim Waltz. These guys are not because they are not built for that. The future is gonna be guys like JD Vance, guys like Vivek Ramaswamy, guys like Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard. And ai the way, maybe the Democrats will find somebody in there, you know? You wouldn’t have predicted Donald Trump
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02:29:58
in 2012. Is trying to do that.
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02:30:00
And that’s why ai
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02:30:01
he wants it to be him so bad. Yeah. Ai Bob. Doing his podcast. And he’s doing a podcast where I’m inviting everybody on.
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02:30:08
Well, he’s at least right for doing that.
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02:30:10
Everybody, come on in, whoever you are. I’m inviting them all.
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02:30:14
Hey, Gavin. Invite me on. We’ll have a nice we’ll have a nice chat.
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02:30:17
He probably would. I’ll do it. He had Steve Bannon on.
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02:30:20
Gavin, mister Newsome, governor Newsome, I would, I would love I would be honored to be on your show. We can have a nice civil conversation about the issues.
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02:30:28
He’ll probably have you on right now. He’ll probably hear that and reach out to you.
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02:30:32
Look. I will give him credit for this. He is at least smart enough that, like, that is the move, is to go do a podcast and start interacting and try to figure out I think the issue that Gavin Newsom has is he is he’s a very talented old school politician. Yeah. And I think that that, archetype has been rejected.
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02:30:51
Yeah.
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02:30:51
And that’s gonna be very tough. I think that going forward like, you know, you saw, I don’t know if you saw recently, it was a few weeks ago, Bernie Sanders and AOC had, like, a few big rallies. Mhmm. And they’re drawn, like, you know, tens of thousands of people to these rallies. Now I don’t think either of them are gonna be the ai.
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02:31:06
I don’t think they’re really drawn those people.
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02:31:08
Well, that also might that also is probably true. Do you
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02:31:10
know they got the cell phone data on those things?
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02:31:12
Yes. No. I know. And it’s though Ai I’ve seen that, and they are probably pretty artificial. But still, there is no way like, no one’s reading Chuck Schumer’s new book. No one cares about Nancy Pelosi. Like, the establishment wing is not gonna be what the future is. It’s gonna have to be some populist It’s gonna be Jasmine Crockett. Ai not sure she’s the one.
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02:31:35
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jasmine Crockett in a cage fight.
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02:31:38
Let’s go. Dude, that’s your, that’s your old bit from, Talking Monkeys in Speak. Or you’re just ai, we could go dumber. Yeah. Just keep getting a dumber dub. So this is the level now. It’s fucking it out. You really protected the future. Yeah.
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02:31:51
Ai definitely did. That was about George Bush getting us into Iraq. He got we won he won again?
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02:31:57
How do you wanna
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02:31:57
and then someone in the back of the room going, I think we can go dumber. And he’s right. And he was a % right with Tim Walz. I mean, that that guy was almost the ai president of The United States. You’ve yeah. I’m sure you’ve seen that thing where it shows Obama saying, I need a vice president that’s dumber than me. Yeah.
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02:32:15
Yeah. Yeah. And then it’s Biden and Biden saying
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02:32:18
I need a vice president dumber than me. And it’s Kamala saying, I need a vice president dumber than meh. And it’s Waltz.
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02:32:22
No. This is why
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02:32:23
Men have tampons.
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02:32:24
Yeah. You gotta you gotta lose because we gotta break this cycle. We’re getting way too dumb.
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02:32:28
You know, regroup. It wasn’t just that we were getting dumb. We were getting scary close to people justifying totalitarian measures. You know what? Tim Walz in the campaign trail was literally saying, free speech doesn’t include hate speech and misinformation. Hey, man. Fuck you. Yeah. How about fuck you?
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02:32:47
Because everything that we called misinformation just a few years ago is now being fucking on it’s on the front page of the New York Times now that we were lied to. I mean, the New York Times just printed a thing. It turns out we were lied to. Yeah. You lied to us. Yeah.
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02:33:01
You were
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02:33:02
part of it.
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02:33:02
Yep.
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02:33:03
You you spit out all of their propaganda without doing what you’re actually supposed to do, which is be a journalist.
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02:33:11
Yep. No. The only way you can be
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02:33:12
a journalist today is if you’re independent. A real journalist, you have to be a Glenn Glenn Greenwald. You have to be a Schellenberger. You have to be a Matt Taibbi. You have to be someone who’s independent. That’s the only way you could do real journalism today. There’s just too many fucking guardrails.
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02:33:25
Glenn Greenwald, who is, debatably the greatest journalist of the twenty first century, and, I maybe I’d give it to Julian Assange, but he’s he’s up there. He had to leave the publication that he was a founder of Yeah. You know, The Intercept.
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02:33:41
Yeah.
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02:33:41
Right? He had to leave them because they were going the route of propaganda and not letting him tell the truth about Joe Biden. And and it’s it’s a testament to Glenn Greenwald that he was just like, okay. Cool. Bye. And I’ll go be just as big without you guys. And that’s That’s crazy. That’s another thing that’s really interesting about, like, this which is very recent though. Right?
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02:34:00
That there was a time, like, where, like, cancel culture was so effective. Ai I remember thinking this was something that really kinda scared me, like, a few years ago because it was, ai, you know, you’d have these people like, some of the people who kinda started getting, like, big, like, before May.
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02:34:19
I mean, I was I was doing what I do, but it it I had a slower, like, progression. But, like, some of these people shah up to the top, you know, Milo or, like, people like that got totally removed from the conversation. Like, it was like ai were just He’s the best example. Yeah.
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02:34:32
Well, this guy was gonna be the guy Ai on Sana then Bill
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02:34:35
Maher Shah.
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02:34:35
Yeah. And and did great on Bill Maher Show.
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02:34:38
Compared to him to Hitchens. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah.
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02:34:39
I remember. Yeah. Like a gay Christopher Hitchens or something like that. I like that. And and and now it just seems all over the place. There’s lots of examples of it where it’s ai they tried to and they’ve tried I mean, they they you went through, I think, the biggest cancellation attempt where they were just ai you could see it was like I remember in those few weeks, it was ai, a decision had been made.
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02:35:02
We’re going after Joe Rogan. And they just emptied every bullet they had, and it all just bounced off you. And then you see this with, ai, a lot of other people ai, you know, Alex Jones, Andrew Tate. You know, however you feel about these guys. I’m not even making a comment on
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02:35:17
You just made them bigger.
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02:35:18
I’m I’m just saying that them getting kicked off every platform has not worked at all.
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02:35:23
And Doesn’t work anymore.
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02:35:25
And that’s and and Daryl’s another example of that too, where they tried to go after him and it just was, like, not happen. Just made him bigger.
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02:35:31
Yeah. It’s fascinating. So they’re gonna have to adjust or go away, adjust or perish. And I I assume they’re gonna perish. I don’t see them adjusting. The only thing that could change is the people that own them, like Jeff Bezos has kinda put the clamps down on the Washington Post and said, look, I I don’t want any of these fucking crazy left wing opinion pieces anymore.
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02:35:50
I want you to report about lifestyle, health, news, objective news. Like, let’s become a fucking newspaper again, which is what is that’s the only way you have value with everybody. Otherwise, you’re alienating literally 50% of the country, and the 50% that buy it, they have to be retarded, because you’ve been lying so openly about so many different things.
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02:36:15
Everything has to be gone through a filter. Everything Yeah.
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02:36:18
Yeah. It’s and and so, like, it’s not even just that they’re lying, but that they’re lying in such a brazen such a 180 degree from reality. You know, like, the the way they’ve tried to make this threat of Doge, you know, ai, the the where they’re just kind of, like, you know, what right does he have to go through all these bureaucratic’s email bureaucrats’ emails and what and you when you zoom out, it reminds me a lot.
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02:36:42
There’s this weird parallel between, like, what Bobby Kennedy was able to insert with the Sana movement, where you had this thing where we had, like, what they’d call a national health crisis, you know, a pandemic. Like, the all of our focus has to be on this health issue. And then Bobby Kennedy just kinda came along and was like, could I point out that, like, there’s a real health crisis that we have Yeah.
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02:37:05
That’s not the one you’re talking about at all? Like, you’re claiming to care about health so much, and it’s like, okay. Look at autism and and diabetes and obesity, and we’re the like, we lead the world in chronic illness. Heart disease. Heart disease. Like, all these things.
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02:37:17
Like, that’s kinda and then it was just the the Doge thing, it was ai, okay. So we have the the US federal government is the biggest organization in the history of the world. We spend more than any other government in the history of the world has ever spent. We are so far in debt now that the interest on the debt is now I believe last year, it was $1,200,000,000,000, and it’s going up.
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02:37:41
Yeah.
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02:37:41
And the interest on the debt is now overtaking the entire budget. Like, I remember when trillion dollar deficits were crazy. You got if we balanced our budget tomorrow, we still run a trillion dollar deficit every year just because we owe it on the interest on the debt. This is so obviously a crisis.
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02:38:02
And then they’re trying to convince you that the real crisis is that Elon Musk and a few of his genius nerd buddies wanna open the books? Like, how the fuck can you convince anyone of that?
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02:38:14
Well, the Democrats are really good at having a narrative and then marching with it. Yeah. Yeah. They’re really good at it. And that’s what you see with all these tweets that are all from the same kind of verbiage. They’re using the same sentences. You see them all throughout the whenever it comes to certain issues, they’re really good at, like, meh staying united and getting out this one message.
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02:38:34
Yep. Which does which does work, to ai of shockingly well. But, again, it is ai you can watch it. Like, it’s like this thing that’s getting diminishing returns and diminishing returns, and it’s like, oh, it’s not the same old thing isn’t working anymore.
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02:38:48
We’re also in this big Manhattan project style race to create sentient Ai. And that’s another issue that’s gonna completely transform society. If you think the Internet and podcast transform society, just wait till you have super intelligent ai computers that are telling us what we should do.
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02:39:07
Yeah. And there’s, you know, look, there’s some pretty, spooky implications of all of that. I mean, I you know, I’ve read a decent amount about the way, like, the IDF was using artificial intelligence to, like, track, you know, like, like, suspects and stuff like this. And, you know, like, ai, the the military using AI is kinda creep.
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02:39:27
But then at the same time, you know, what what might that do to, like, people’s ability to keep secrets and keep corruption going? And, you know, it’s kinda ai who gets in charge of that Right. Is gonna be a that’s gonna be, like, the fate of mankind.
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02:39:44
Well, I think they’re prepping for that. That’s why they’re jailing politicians. Like, there’s a lot of that going on right now. They’re they’re in a hot panic because you’re not gonna be able to hide anything anymore. It’s gonna we’re we have just a it’s gonna come in waves, and it’s gonna be I mean, I’m just guessing what its impact is gonna be, but I think the world’s unrecognizable in twenty years.
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Yeah. I think you’re probably right probably right about that. And it’s, you know, it’s gonna be very it’s gonna be very interesting. I remember you said, like, a long time ago I think it was, like, at the very beginning of the podcast. But you had said one thing where, like, you were, like, it’s gonna be harder and harder to lie.
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02:40:21
Like, that’s just gonna be the future where it’s just harder and harder to lie. And you’re talking about just, like, even how much right now, like, you know you know, like, I was I was born in 1983. So I grew up in, like, the eighties and the ai. And, like, you could lie back then.
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Mhmm.
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02:40:35
You could just tell why.
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02:40:37
Make up stories.
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02:40:37
You make up whatever. I used to do this. I was the head of this. I worked at this company. You have to say that.
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02:40:42
Just say have a narrative of this way.
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02:40:44
Totally, like and you were just like, I don’t know. I mean, he says it. There’s no way to really check that. And now it’s ai, you just sai, like, oh, I used to do this. It’s like, no. No. You didn’t. You know what I mean?
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02:40:52
Like, that that’s a crazy shift that you know, it happens slow enough that you don’t ai. But the more that that goes on and on and the more technology there is and the more with the, like, singularity type shit or the more, like, ai it’s gonna it’s gonna become increasingly more and more difficult to deceive people.
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02:41:10
Ai least with that would be my guess.
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02:41:11
There’s gonna be an app in our lifetime that’s a lie detector, and it’s gonna be a %. It’s gonna read your retinas. It’s gonna look at your ai, and you’re you’re gonna use it just the same way you use Ai. And you’re gonna have to talk to your boss through that thing. And it’s gonna be able to tell you, what did you do? What did you actually do?
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02:41:30
Where’s the money? Why is money missing?
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02:41:32
Oh, imagine that just ai on politicians though.
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02:41:34
Yeah. Oh, boy. It’s gonna be great. Get that bitch on Nancy Pelosi.
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02:41:38
Because I just happen to be really good at picking stocks. Too bad.
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02:41:42
Dick Cheney’s dead. Would you like to stick him in front of that thing?
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02:41:45
Oh, he’s still alive. Isn’t he? Is it Dick Cheney? I thought he died.
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02:41:50
No. Dick Cheney’s still alive.
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02:41:52
Is he? Yeah. No. Somebody I I think somebody else. I’m trying to think of who you who is the guy who died?
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02:41:57
One of the big ones died.
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02:41:58
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Someone real evil did ai. But that guy’s What’s that? Wow. Yeah.
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02:42:02
He’s still alive with another dude’s heart.
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02:42:05
Still alive with another dude’s heart.
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02:42:06
Isn’t it crazy? All these people died from COVID, and that fucking ai just still kicking.
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02:42:10
Yeah. Well, it’s a fake heart. The thing about making it the deal with the devil is, you know, you get you get paid off.
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02:42:15
At one point in time, he had no pulse. He had something that was just circulating blood through his body and he didn’t
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02:42:20
have a pulse.
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02:42:20
That’s gotta be
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02:42:21
in the Ai. Yeah. Yeah. No. There’s definitely something to it.
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02:42:24
A guy responsible for a million innocent people dying who doesn’t have a pulse.
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02:42:27
It’s and can you imagine It’s just crazy, like and I don’t know, like, I don’t know how much he was acting
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02:42:33
on his own or, like, they were Oh, McCain’s dead.
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02:42:36
John McCain is dead. He’s been gone for a while. He’s dead. Why
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02:42:39
do I think that Cheney was dead?
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02:42:41
I feel like there’s somebody else who I and but maybe not. But you know what’s crazy?
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02:42:46
Did Rumsfeld just die?
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02:42:48
I’m not sure.
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02:42:50
There was a fake report earlier this year that Dick Cheney died.
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02:42:53
Oh, maybe that’s it. They got me. They got you with a scam.
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02:42:56
They got me to fake it.
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02:42:57
But isn’t it crazy that which but, you know, like, there’s a million examples of this, but just, like, how tone deaf the Kamala Harris campaign was that they now Ai don’t know how much Dick Cheney they, like but Liz Cheney, they started threatening
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02:43:12
on the jail.
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02:43:12
Because Trump
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endorsed him.
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02:43:13
He came out to endorse it and say that Donald Trump is the most dangerous threat to Meh, and then she started campaigning with Liz Cheney. Like, as if the I I mean, it’s just forget even, like, the fact shah, obviously, like, I’m the antiwar guy, and I think all these people are blood soaked monsters who should burn in hell for eternity.
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02:43:29
But leave all that aside. Just the politics of it. Liz Cheney lost her congressional race by, like, 50 points. What market is that? Like, what margin on the edges did they think, like, I know I know what’ll move this. Okay. We’re down, but we’re not out.
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02:43:44
Bring in the Ai, and then we’re gonna tell them about how much we love fucking the war in Iraq or something like that. And it was I think it was just a signal to, like, military contractors to be ai, hey. We’re cool. You know, like, send us some more money.
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02:43:58
Internally, apparently, they already knew they were losing.
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02:44:00
Yeah. They said the, from Which makes the spending even weirder. Yeah. Well, evidently, the, the internal polling there’s a few really interesting questions about this because so the it’s been reported that the internal polling of Biden before he dropped out was, ai, a crazy ai, way, way more than what Trump ended up winning by.
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02:44:22
Like, they had him winning, like, 500 elect I forget what it was, but it was like a crazy fucking blowout. And then similarly, on when Kamala Harris took over, like, they knew. But then there’s also something interesting where it’s like, hey. So, like, pollsters, could could we ever get the real polls? How come, like, they can figure out the real polls?
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02:44:40
Right.
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02:44:41
But then you because there was something, like, there’s only been a few elections in my life that I remember where, like, it was, it was just obvious who was who was gonna win. Like, Obama in 02/2008. Right. It was obvious. Right. You you could not have convinced saloni, like, looks like John McCain’s the front runner. No. It fucking does not.
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02:45:00
Like, this black Jesus has drawn 80,000 people, and then John McCain’s over here, I don’t think we can do you know, it’s like, clearly, this guy’s losing, and this guy’s gonna win. But the polls reflected that. It was like, oh, yeah. Obama’s up big in the polls. Yeah.
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02:45:14
But this year, everything you could see, taste, touch, like, it was just oh, obviously, Donald Trump everywhere Donald Trump went, he’s getting, like, a king’s greeting. He’s, like, with all all the culture has totally shifted in his direction.
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02:45:26
Imagine if they hadn’t astroturf those conventions for Kamala Harris. Imagine if they hadn’t paid people to show up. How many people would be there? They’d have an arena?
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02:45:34
They it ai. It would have been imagine, like, right, it wasn’t people coming to see Beyonce, and they just had to come see Kamala Harris and all you know? It’s it was, the this campaign was the the Kamala Ai. And this is part of the reason why ai though I am, really upset with Donald Trump and I’m upset with a lot of the cabinet people too.
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02:45:53
I mean, I look. Bobby, I will say, does seem to at least be doing some real structural like, he’s he’s talking about really, you know, changing some things at the health department. I I think it maybe he could take a break from tweeting about the virus of anti Semitism, but whatever.
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02:46:09
Tulsi, I’m really upset with over, you know, her, like, cheering on these these strikes. I I, you know, I thought she was supposed to be the one who was gonna stand up in that signal group and say something and not just leave it to JD. And I think Donald Trump’s messing up in a lot of ways.
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02:46:26
But I really, at least at this point like, if he invades Iran and we have another war there, then I I will apologize for voting for him. Then I think I made a mistake, and I shouldn’t have done that. But short of that, I do think it was the right thing to do. And part of it was ai that that had to be exposed because this Kamala Harris ticket, it was the most astroturfed ticket ever. Yeah.
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02:46:45
You know, ai, it’s one thing. Look. Obama had a lot of institutional support. It it wasn’t as organic as they made it out to be. You know, like But there was a lot of real But he had real support. Like, he did have real grassroots support.
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02:46:57
She was just she never won a she didn’t win a primary. She didn’t win a delegate when she ran for president. She didn’t even make it to Iowa. It was all fake. It was all phony. And it was ai that had to be exposed. It’s dangerous.
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02:47:10
That’s dangerous. Yes.
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Because if
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they can get that through with her, even if you like her or anything, she would have done a great job. It’s scary that you were given that kind of power. Yeah. And the same people that were auto pending all those Biden executive orders would have been in charge for another four years, if not forever.
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02:47:26
Yeah. That’s right. And the and and look, even, you know, you could say whatever that Joe Biden just feared that Donald Trump would abuse the justice department, which is, you know, a little ironic to accuse him of the thing you’re actually guilty of doing. But to go out and to pardon your family, and forget the family even because that’s a little less relevant, but to pardon Fauci Yeah.
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02:47:45
And go back to 02/2014
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02:47:48
Yeah.
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02:47:49
Ai you pick that year? Yeah. You know, Joe I mean, obviously, Joe Biden didn’t pick anything, but what who’s the person who picked that we gotta go back and give this guy blanket immunity going all the way back? Like, come on, dude. Yeah. What the fuck? It’s crazy. That’s I mean, it’s too much.
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02:48:04
It’s crazy. And who who really signed that? That’s the other thing. The thing about using auto pen for writing all those pardons, does that count? Is there a legal battle about that?
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02:48:15
Well, that’s
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because if you can’t remember, if Mike Johnson testifies that he brought up the the natural gas deal, and he’s ai, why did you Yeah. Why’d you go and he’s like, I didn’t. Yeah. He’s like, no, you did. And then he asks to be alone with Mike Johnson. So he always has handlers with him. And then when he’s alone with him, then Biden tells him, I didn’t sign that. Yeah.
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02:48:36
Well, it’s And then you realize it’s the same signature.
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02:48:38
Well, when you’re the level of senile that Joe Biden was, it’s like, it leads to the question, ai, how easy was it for everybody to manipulate you? Also Because you could just tell him he did or didn’t do something, and he may not you know, like, he Right.
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02:48:54
He’s remembered.
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02:48:55
But, like, we don’t know you know, like, I’m there was this one thing ai. Like, one of the things on October 7 and I try I try almost to avoid this topic sometimes because I don’t want it to come off like I’m downplaying the horrors of of October 7. Ai, Hamas in invaded Israel. They did some really fucked up shit.
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02:49:11
They indiscriminately killed a bunch of civilians, and they had grenades and and ai, and they did it was horrible. And they took a bunch of hostages, and it’s you know?
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02:49:20
Everyone else.
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02:49:20
Really However, there were some claims that were made that turned out not to be true. The 40 beheaded babies and some of the, like, claims of mass rapes and stuff ai that. Just turned out not to be true. They were set in the fog of this thing. The whatever. I’ll give the benefit of the doubt of, like, you know, maybe it was you know, I think they were kind of abused by some politicians in order to get you to turn your brain off and be very emotional and and not pay attention to what this response is gonna be.
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02:49:43
But Joe Biden claimed that he had seen the videos of the beheaded babies. And then it turned out to just like, that never happened. And then you’re almost wondering. You’re like, was he lying? Does he not remember? Did someone just tell him that you’ve seen that? And that because he’s a senile man.
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He’s also a liar. Like, his whole life.
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That’s right. It’s so it it’s it’s, like, impossible to know because he’s also been a liar his whole life. He’s also the guy who’s, like, I was first in my class, graduated with multiple degrees, and blah blah blah. And you’re, like, none of this is even kind of true. None of this is even kind of true.
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None of it’s even kind of true. Yeah. And and it’s just wild that you could be too old and senile to stand trial for having classified documents, but yet you’re fine giving out pardons.
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02:50:30
Yeah.
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Like, how do you let a person with a mental disease give out pardons? That seems like that’s the guy I manipulate. And if it turns out that guy gives out more pardons than anyone ever upon leaving office Yeah. How’s that that seems like that seems like those shouldn’t be legit.
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02:50:44
Well, look, on on its own of course not. But on its own, that and and there were things that come above that to me, like COVID and the war in Ukraine and, you know, a whole bunch of other shit. But that alone is ai Kamala Harris and the corporate media and the they had to lose. Yeah. You can’t do that.
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02:51:00
You can’t Emperor’s New close the entire American public And, like, fuck it. Just lie through your teeth pretending this guy’s not a vegetable.
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02:51:07
Ai times, Dave Smith. We gotta wrap this up. Alright. Ai bitch home. Thank you, sir.
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02:51:11
Love you to death. You’re awesome.
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02:51:13
Appreciate you very much. Tell everybody how they watch your show.
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02:51:16
Oh, part of the problem is my podcast where I talk about all this political news stuff, and then Legion of Skanks is where I’m a degenerate, with my comedian friends. Check both of those out. Skank Fest is in New Orleans this year. If anyone wants to come, that’s gonna be a lot of fun. I believe it’s September Nice.
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02:51:33
Of, this year. And then, you know, comictsmith.com if you wanna come see me on the road. Beautiful.
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02:51:37
Alright. Bye, everybody ai.
