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Dr Humphries is a conventionally educated medical doctor who was a participant in conventional hospital systems from 1989 until 2011 as an internist and nephrologist. She left her conventional hospital position in good standing, of her own volition in 2011. Since then, she’s been furthering her research into the medical literature on vaccines, immunity, history, and functional medicine. She is the author of “Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History.”
https://drsuzanne.net
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#2294 – Dr. Suzanne Humphries Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the discussion revolves around themes of misinformation, societal beliefs, and health. A significant portion of the conversation critiques the spread of misinformation during the COVID-19 pandemic, highlighting how some narratives were accepted without scrutiny. The speaker reflects on the societal impact of these narratives and the eventual realization by many of the misleading information they were fed.
A guest on the show, who has authored a book titled “Dissolving Illusions,” is mentioned. The book is praised for challenging commonly held beliefs and shedding light on beneficial practices that are often dismissed. The guest discusses the intentional and profitable nature of certain indoctrinations and the importance of questioning mainstream narratives.
The episode also touches on health and wellness, with specific advice on dog nutrition provided by a sponsor, Farmer’s Dog. The sponsor emphasizes the benefits of feeding dogs a diet of real meat and vegetables, offering a service that simplifies this process for pet owners.
Additionally, the conversation includes insights into health supplements, cautioning against overuse and the importance of understanding individual needs through methods like hair mineral analysis.
Overall, the episode encourages critical thinking and skepticism towards widely accepted narratives, advocating for informed decision-making in both societal beliefs and personal health practices. The recurring theme is the importance of questioning and verifying information rather than accepting it at face value.
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#2294 – Dr. Suzanne Humphries Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Showing my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Joe. Alright. We’re all
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you just said something that’s, like, very important. Can’t be dogmatic when you’re talking about vaccines or about anything.
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Yes. It is good to keep an open mind, isn’t it, and be flexible and look at a 360 degree view of things rather than in your tunnel vision and what you’re indoctrinated into, isn’t it?
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Yeah. And especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose and profitable. And, you know, one of the great things about your book is, first of all, your book’s called Dissolving Illusions. I know I’ve talked about on the podcast a bunch of times, but you, you also highlight a lot of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into nonsense, Like, even cinnamon?
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Like Yeah. Cinnamon is a is a powerful herb, actually, and it’s known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now. I noticed, at the end of my nephrology career, that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules, but it also has a lot of vitamin c in it.
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And I think that was probably one of the keys. A lot of those old remedies that we wrote about, the magic in them probably was the vitamin c in them.
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I dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense. I was like, oh, that’s hippie nonsense, ai, echinacea. Like, get out of here. It’s hippie nonsense. Garlic. Come on. Get out of here. But then the more I’ve read things, especially, like, garlic is incredible for staph infections for some reason.
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It is. And it doesn’t be develop drug resistance ai a lot of the drugs that are engineered for it. Yeah. The hippies seem to have got it right, I think.
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Well, it just that that whole idea of natural remedies is so just universally dismissed by non silly people. You know, when you say natural remedies, that’s great. If you have a heart attack, go to a doctor, stupid. You know, that’s generally people’s appeal to authority.
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Right.
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But it’s the doctor should be recommending those things too. Like, they’re they’re good too. Like, vitamin d, super important. You know, vitamin a, super important. And one of the things that you talked about in the book is that, I think this is really important when you’re talking about the measles vaccine.
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You were saying that, either if you get an infection with measles, just a natural infection, or if you get the vaccine, you’re still gonna get depleted of vitamin a. Like, if you get vaccinated for the measles, you should be taking vitamin a as well. Your body’s gonna get depleted just by getting that shot.
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They don’t tell you that.
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No. They don’t tell you anything. Just Tylenol, which actually makes the vaccine not work as well in addition to causing all kinds of immunological disturbances at the time that you’re supposed to be upregulating your immune system against this dreaded disease. Yeah. But one of the things about the the recommended by the, you know, the white coats and the authorities is is that they the public believes that so many drugs and remedies are standardized that the conventional medical system gives out.
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And when you go to actually look at them, and this includes vaccines, even though they’re standardized, meaning that the manufacturers are told what the regulation should be in terms of production, when people go and look at them, they find it’s anything but standardized. It’s very variable, which is why we see such variability in the, in the results when people re receive them. That’s only one reason why there’s so much variability.
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And do you think it’s the immunity to, any legal consequences that has allowed them to sort of operate like this?
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Well, we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986. So ’19 actually, in 1986, you’re you’re referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986. But before 1986, Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986. But before 1986, we had 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco.
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And that was that was a situation where there was so much injury that the vaccine producing companies were no longer able to get insurance. And so they went to the government, and they said, we need you to indemnify us, and they did. And so the government absorbed all the lawsuit cases that happened as a result of the Guillain Barre that happened from then.
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And so that ai set a precedent for 1986. So back then, vaccines were just kind of, you know, pieces of microbe or maybe a live attenuated ai, and then they would put a background of all kinds of hard things inside of it and tell you it was just a clear, beautiful, pure solution, but that’s beside the point.
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So, then 1986 comes saloni, and because there’s so many lawsuits happening because of the diphtheria pertussis tetanus vaccine vatsal, again, the vaccine companies couldn’t continue to go on the way they were because they were being sued so much. So then this this horrible act was passed, which to some people seemed like a good idea.
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And this is always how it goes is we’re gonna make you this promise. Yes. Yes. Yes. We’re gonna we’re gonna cover all the lawsuits now out of taxes, but it’s gonna be okay because we’re gonna we’re gonna pay out these lawsuits, and you’re gonna be fine.
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If your if your kid takes one for the team, you’re gonna be okay. And what happens is after time, after they get their foot in the door, they narrow down the, they they basically have a kangaroo court that decides if you’re eligible. And so the qualification tables got narrowed down because in the beginning, they were paying out so much of this.
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So not only did it make the vaccine companies very, very wealthy and indemnified, but as you alluded to just a minute ago, the creativity of the vaccine companies expanded. So after that, they could add different, what we call, adjuvants, things that stimulate the immune system so the vaccine works better.
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Then they start that’s why we’re able to be in a messenger RNA vaccine situation today, which which that wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for this indemnification shah, you know, the vaccine trials have always been a bit of a joke, but they’re even more of a joke today than they were in the beginning.
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I mean, we’ve never seen a vaccinated, unvaccinated, study that’s that is accepted by the powers that be as, you know, good enough. The the the vaccinated, unvaccined studies that they have, they use another vaccine for. You probably know that. So if you’re testing a measles vaccine, you know, you could test it against a diphtheria vaccine, or a flu shot vaccine is tested against sai hepatitis a vaccine.
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There’s no saline placebo because the few studies that exist with saline placebos show how bad the vaccine actually is and how it makes you not only not respond to the disease when it comes around, but more susceptible to it in
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meh cases.
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Have there been any instances where vaccines have been helpful?
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The question of the century, isn’t it? Okay. Now we have to back up a minute because I had that same question, and I had to go dig deep to all the questions you have in your head right now. I had them too at one point. So here I am, a medical doctor working in the field, believing in pretty much everything I was told, giving hundreds, if not thousands, of vaccines out to my patients, hepatitis b vaccines in particular, flu shots for sure.
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I was a nephrologist, kidney specialist, and dialysis, etcetera. And, initially, you know, we all kind of have an aversion to needles. I think it’s a natural human aversion. Sai when we’re kids, we don’t no one’s going, oh, I wanna go get my vaccines. Ai, you know, okay. Fine. Sore arm. You get over it.
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Most of us were lucky enough to get over it. So by the time the first instance of a problem occurred in front of my eyes, I was already a fully seasoned professor of medicine, you know, working in a in a tertiary care medical center. Okay? And so it it’s been a bit of a process because ram me, it was the influenza vaccines in 02/2008, ‘2 thousand ‘9 that showed me without a doubt that vaccines can and do cause kidney failure and put people on dialysis, that that does happen.
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It can cause hypertension. So we’re not told to take a vaccine history in medical school. We’re not told to even look there. It’s not even part of especially in adults. But when I did start looking there, I I I started to see more and more associations.
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Let’s just put it that way. And so first, I had to go down the flu the flu vaccine bunny trail. And every time I went down that flu vaccine bunny trail, guess what I was asked? What about polio?
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Right.
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So I thought, alright. Even though this has absolutely
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zero to do with polio because I’m watching people crap out in front
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of me after influenza vaccines, let’s see about polio. Because I knew very little about polio just like most people walking around out there do that, you know, it was invented by this guy named Jonas Salk, and it saved humanity. We don’t see these little crippled kids anymore. We don’t have iron lungs anymore. Yay.
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Well, I would have to say that the Polio Bunny Trail was the darkest one of all. And, so after polio then became smallpox, and I thought, you know, we still have people walking the Earth that have experienced the polio years. So I I kinda like to stick to polio because most of the smallpox, you know, people that would have been would have been familiar with it are are off the planet.
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But there’s still some doctors around that’ll talk about smallpox, like a guy named Thomas Mack, who’s probably close to 90, who was kinda ground zero in the nineteen forties and knows a lot about it and still says we shouldn’t be vaccinated for smallpox today. So then there was that. And then everyone and their dog was talking about autism.
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And I didn’t really sana have anything to do with autism because I was an adult doctor.
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I think we should break down step by step, like, what about polio?
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Yeah.
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Check it out. Because you said polio. Once once we’ve breached that because that’s the big one. Yeah. Right? This is the one that everybody points to.
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We don’t have crippled kids.
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Yeah.
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What when you look at the historical ai of of polio, what do you think caused it to go, to essentially not be a problem anymore?
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Okay.
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You you don’t think vaccinations had anything to do with that?
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Well, I also it’s not what I think. Because that’s the thing. Like, look, when I got into this, I didn’t say, oh, you know, I wanna argue that vaccines are great. I said, look. I don’t care. I didn’t have skin in the game. I didn’t have vaccine injured kids.
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I couldn’t have cared less about it and essentially accept that it was something in front of me and and didn’t make sense. So I thought wherever the truth falls, that’s what I’m gonna talk about. So what I say is that I I what vatsal line up to show you is that polio is still here. Polio is still alive and well.
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Polio is called different things today, whereas back in the ai forties, ai fifties, the criteria for diagnosing polio were completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced. The the the playing field, the goalpost, everything was changed sai that despite the fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was introduced, They were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it.
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And they started testing for the virus where before they would never test for the virus. And when they started testing for the virus later, what they would find that people had Guillain Barre syndrome, they didn’t have virus, or they had coxsackievirus ai echovirus, or they were lead poisoned ram mercury poisoned, which was the mercury and lead were the leading treatments of the day, including bloodletting.
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They were telling people to put take your cigarette and put a little bit of arsenic in there. It’s good for your lungs. Yeah.
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They were literally blowing smoke up people’s butts. Like, that that’s where the term comes from because they’re if you wanna Google that now, you’ll see that
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there’s an instrument
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that does Yeah. So, but, yeah, the polio story, where to even begin? And so there’s about 70 pages, and so that became my obsession. So when people sai, what about polio? And I started digging this up, I went deep into it.
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Did you dive into pesticides?
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Yes. Yes. You have to dive into pesticides because the tonnage of production of DDT absolutely mirrored the the diagnosis for polio in the days. And the countries that still make DDT today is where we’re still seeing this paralytic polio situation happen.
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And, also, weren’t the first cases didn’t they break out in a rural community?
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The first cases of polio. Yes.
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In The United States, Paralytic Polio.
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Yes. It was out in the countryside. Well, and that was probably more because of the sheep and cow dipping. So arya. You’d have to look at arsenic. You have to look at the mercurials. You have to look at the calcium, arya, lead, arsenic sprays that are put on trees. But what you’re talking about in particular, they would call the cow disease. They’ll go out in the in the family.
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When you would go to the house, they’d sai, all the kids have the cow disease, what the cows had before. Well, what were they doing? They would have these trenches. You talk to farmers even today. Oh, yeah. We had trenches.
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We would just walk them straight through, and I’d be soaked with the stuff by the end of the day.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah. So they’re basically soaking and bathing in arsenic, which is great for killing fleas and ticks. Oh. But it’s not really great for keeping your nervous system happy because the fact of the matter is and this, again, I’ve got medical references, everything. I can’t get away with making stuff up. Okay? I have to put a reference for everything. But arsenic causes the exact same spinal pathology that and fevers and everything.
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It literally mimics what they were calling polio and a poliovirus back in the day.
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I read this crazy statistic, and I still can’t believe it’s real, that ninety five to ninety nine percent of all polio is asymptomatic.
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That’s exactly right. So poliovirus is what we call a commensal. Just like you have staph on your skin and strep on your sai, and it actually serves a purpose. It keeps other microbes in check as long as you don’t get a cut, and have not a good immune system to deal from the inside out.
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So polio and the reason I can say that polio is a commensal is because, again, there are medical studies that showed that, people who dared to get on the edge of some of these wild native tribes down in South America or elsewhere, but in particular, I’m talking about a South American tribe called the Givente Indians.
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So the, Indian Health Service got to the edge of it and bargained that they would get some stool and some blood from the tribes so that they could test it for polio. And what they found was ninety eight to ninety nine percent of every person they tested, and it was hundreds of people, had all had evidence of immunity to all three strains of polio.
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And they said to them, well, where are your crippled children? Where’s your short legs? Where are the people that died of respiratory failure? And they were like, we don’t have we don’t have any of that problem. So it was well Could
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it possibly be that whatever they’re you’re calling polio evolved and became less powerful over time and more contagious? Does that does happen with some some viruses. Right?
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Most viruses in nature don’t become more problematic as they go through the human the human system. They become less problematic. Remember remember the the whole COVID thing? Like, in the beginning, people were getting super, super sick. It was it wasn’t as contagious, but it was more virulent.
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And as it attenuated into the human bodies, it sort of spilled it ai of fizzled out a bit. And then we got the omicron, which was, you know, less it was more spreadable, but it was much less pathological. And that’s the natural process that happens. So when you’re gonna have problems real problems with, microbes, they’re usually going to be reverse attenuated, meaning made more lethal in a lab, and then they’re introduced into the population.
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And look. I’m not making this up either. Nineteen sixteen, Upper East Side Manhattan, there was a Rockefeller lab that their their specific stated goal was to try to create the most pathological, neuropathological strain of polio possible. And they did that by taking monkey brains and human, spinal serum and injecting it into monkeys.
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And, there was a big problem with that, which was released into the public by accident. And the world experienced the worst polio epidemic on record, twenty five percent mortality. That’s unheard of. Really freaked the public out. But as it as it and then you can see the epicenter as it fanned out.
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And as it fanned out and as time went on, never heard of it again, it it attenuates as it moves through the body because it’s a normal human commensal that goes back to its normal state when it’s in a human. And that’s generally what happens. If you have a highly lethal virus and it kills a lot of people, those people are dead. They can’t spread anything.
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So that’s kind of a different story if you wanna talk about hantavirus or something like that. But as far as polio goes, no. Polio was only made more lethal by the stupid things that humans did around it. So make it more invasive into the body just like you can go do stupid things and end end up with herpes outbreaks and, you know, staph outbreaks.
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Poliovirus is a normal commensal. It used to be until we obliterated it with oral vaccines and replaced it with vaccine strain, but the wild strains are, normal human commensals.
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So there’s vaccine strain polio that just comes from a vaccine and is transmissible? Absolutely.
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Today, it would be the oral polio vaccines because they’re the live strains, and they’re still giving them pulse fashion all throughout India. They they did a campaign a few years back in, Israel, and they always say that a nomad came and, you know, pooped in the sewage system, and they find it in the sewage system.
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And they don’t want an outbreak to happen, so they treat everybody. So that’s today the most common reason to sai, polio poliomyelitis disease from a virus. If you test for a virus, they’ll usually find the vaccine virus. And that’s why today, we don’t remember when we were kids, because we’re about the same age, I think, they would give us the sugar cube.
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Maybe you didn’t, but I did. I got the sugar cube, and that was the live, vaccine. Well, they stopped doing that because after a while, the only cases of polio and it became so obvious that the only cases of polio we were seeing related to a virus, when they tested for poliovirus were vaccine strains, then they started injecting us again.
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But the early injections caused more paralytic polio than it prevented. And that’s the part that people don’t understand when they sai, what about polio? Because they they, like you, just go, well, there’s no more iron lungs. There’s no more crippling. There’s no more these little poor little kids walking around with their their cast. Well, that’s that’s not true because the iron lung is now called a ventilator.
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So that’s out the window. Transverse myelitis, which there are about thirteen hundred cases, I think it’s a month ai in one particular. I I put a quote put a quote in here on that. But transverse myelitis is actually something that would have absolutely it follows the same patho pathology as polio.
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It would have been called polio back in the day. So we still have polio that we had in 1953 because in 1953, all you had to have to be diagnosed is polio. Anyone could diagnose you. Just one examination with, one set of muscles being paralyzed. There was no time frame on it. There was no testing done on it.
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And then it was considered a public service to do it because then you’re eligible for funding.
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So what do they call it again? Can you say that word again? Myelitis?
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Polio ai is the definition of the actual pathology. You know? So it basically means inflammation of the gray matter of your spinal cord. That’s what polio in Greek, poliomyelitis. It means gray matter inflammation, poliomyelitis. Poliomyelitis is is what happens in the body. Okay.
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If you wanna talk about what causes it, then, okay, maybe in some cases, the poliovirus causes it, and all the other things we just mentioned, arsenic, lead arsenate, calcium arsenate, injections. Tonsillectomies were huge cause of some of the worst cases of poliomyelitis. And in fact, injections and tonsillectomies and unnecessary surgeries were put on hold during the years where the epidemics were the worst.
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So that’s just proof that even the surgeons knew that.
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Why why why how does it affect it?
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Okay. So if you happen to have poliomyelitis circulating in your body that’s not just sitting in your intestines and say it made its way into your body, because we can. Things can go from your intestines into your body, and you happen to, have it close to a nerve that’s up, say, around your throat and then you go and take tonsils out, then what you’ve done is you’ve given that access to the blood compartment, the lymph comp the lymph compartment, and the brainstem, which is right there, local.
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So those are the people that would get what was called bulbar polio, which is the ones that put you on a ventilator and may and it’s highly lethal. It’s one it’s the worst kind of polio to get, bulbar polio. And it was very well known to have been coincident with tonsillectomies.
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Not only that, but tonsillectomies changed, the structure and antibodies and the immunity that occurred in the throat and changed it for the for the worse, not for the better.
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Do you think they’re unnecessary, or is there some times when people have to get their tonsils removed, or is it just a nonsense practice?
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Okay. So, again, it’s not it’s not just a cut and dry answer because let’s just say that anyone who’s ever brought their child to me because the tonsils were touching or they were snoring has not had to have a tonsillectomy. Now does that mean that a tonsillectomy won’t solve that problem where you’re snoring and your, you know, your kids maybe not oxygenating. No.
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If you let it go that long, probably you’re gonna need a tonsillectomy. But I I’ve seen so many cases reversed. It’s a very easy thing to do. But as doctors, we’re not taught about all the things that you were talking about earlier, the the natural remedies, but just simply gargling with a solution of, of sodium ascorbate, vitamin c, can make a huge difference because tonsils are like they’re like porous golf balls if you wanna think of them that way.
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They’ve got pits in them and and so food you eat and bacteria and pus can build up. But if you just start rinsing the outsides of them and start nourishing the body from the inside and getting rid of things that the kid might be allergic to, which almost every kid’s gonna eat if your parent doesn’t know better, it can make a remarkable difference in these kids that have these huge tonsils.
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So I think that a lot I think everything else should be done first before taking out the tonsils if there’s time because I’d say ninety five to ninety nine percent of the time, you can prevent that child from needing their tonsils removed.
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Before we go to smallpox, I wanna talk about this because he just brought it up. One of the things that Brett Weinstein has, explained to me is that, aluminum is, when that the concept is that giving someone a shah with aluminum in it and triggering an immune immune response, if they’re eating certain foods during that time, they can then develop an allergy to those foods, like certain people with peanuts and and various things like that that are used to be very common for people to eat, but then a bunch of people developed, like, pretty severe food allergies.
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And he makes this connection that he believes he is just reasonably it’s a reasonable connection to say that there’s something
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Absolutely. Oh, %. And and it’s it’s not just something he’s dreamed up. Again, provable medical literature in the book, Dissolving Illusions. The the physiology, the pathology is known. It’s very well known that, the vaccines that have aluminum in them skew the immune system.
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So the immune system kind of just if you wanna break it down just really simply, you have your t h one arm and your t h two arm. Your t h one arm is a really important one. Those are the those are your t cells, you know, your lymphocytes, the cells that, you know, chew up any garbage that’s going around.
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That’s the part you want activated in any infection you have, whether it’s COVID or measles or smallpox or whatever. Then you have your t h two arm, which is there mostly to deal with parasites and things like that, and it’s mostly an antibody arm of immunity. That’s the one the vaccinologists are obsessed with, making sure there’s enough antibody.
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So though the vaccines that have aluminum in them, as opposed to the live attenuated vaccines, which don’t have aluminum, all the other ones do. So your DTAP is gonna have aluminum in them. All your killed vaccines are gonna have aluminum in them. And that is very well known to trigger that t h two response, which is the allergic response, which can set up your body for autoimmunity.
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And so part of the part of the purpose of of, you know, breastfeeding, which is, you know, part of the the blueprint for humanity and every other mammal, is that the mother is able to introduce antigens in the world to her baby through her own breast and things that she’s been eating and breathing in, and then the baby’s able to develop tolerance.
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So, you know, while vaccine scientists are obsessed with getting antibodies and ramping up an infant’s inadequate immune system, the fact of the matter is is that it’s more important to learn what not to react to when your immune system’s developing rather than to becoming defensive against every microbe that could get you.
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So that’s kind of the paradox there and one of the the battlegrounds for, you know, immunology within immunology. And for those of us out here that are going, what are you doing here? You know? Anyway You
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would do you’re also talking in your book about the importance of breast milk and the the amount of nutrition that’s in breast milk for for a child and what it does for a ai, you know, and and the differences in their immune system, the differences in a a lot of different aspects of their development Mhmm. Which is pretty fascinating. And most people fascinating. Kind of just assume it’s food. It’s just food.
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Mhmm.
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But it’s a lot more than that.
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It’s so much more than that. And I was actually quite startled when I really went down that rabbit hole, to see not only I mean, it is food. It’s it’s it’s excellent nutrition with short chain fatty acids and sugars that the baby needs. It actually trains your gut to be healthy in the long run as an adult, which trains your immune system as well.
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But what that mother is putting through her breast milk, you know, things like something called hamlet, h a m l e t, which stands for human alpha lactalbumin made lethal to tumors. And this is a substance. This is a protein. It’s like a transformer protein that, can literally turn into a cancer busting molecule that is being, used by the oncology industry. Okay?
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And when it’s not in that form, it’s a powerful protein that fights off, pertussis, all kinds of pneumococcal bacteria. And when it’s not doing that, it’s food. Okay? So it’s ai it’s got so many different purposes. Stem cells are coming through that that mother’s milk. Activated t cells.
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Activated t cells have another substance in them that’s that is kind of hijacked by the oncology industry. And that is when when they’re immunosuppressing kids for leukemia or whatever, and they come in contact, say, with, chickenpox, what they can do is get somebody like me who’s immune to chickenpox naturally and take my memory t ai leukocyte extract.
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When you put that into another child, even if whether they eat it or inject it into them, it transfers cellular, that t h one important arm of immunity I just told you. It transfers it onto them and protects them for a long time. So that’s kind of in the old days when when mothers had measles in the old days and and normally, and they were were able to pass this powerful immunity through that that DLE factor as well as all these other things, including preformed immunoglobulins.
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I mentioned something like 80,000 stem cells. It’s it’s just incredible all and we still have only hit the tip of the iceberg in in in terms of what we know about breast milk. But breast milk also, it’s been proven again that if you’re gonna if you are gonna vaccinate your baby, if you’re breastfeeding, the vaccine will bring that baby more into a t h one.
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If you’re not breastfeeding and you’re giving formula, that baby’s gonna move more into a t h two in response to that vaccine. So, like, if I think if if most women understood the powers of breast milk, they they would do everything possible to be able to do it.
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Ai I think you make a very compelling point for that. I just I think it’s arrogant that we could assume that we could replace something with a I mean, have you ever read the ingredients of formula? Yeah. Like, how could that be good?
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Like The
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ai. We we have parasites that have been parasites upon humanity for such a long ai. And that’s what happens is that something is discovered. And for some people, maybe it can be a good idea, but then the parasites take it and and wanna so with when it came to breastfeeding, it was you don’t have to do that.
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You don’t have to bother yourself like that. You don’t have to pull your boobs out in public. You don’t have to become a dairy cow. Just strap them down. The milk will stop, and then you can start putting this wonderful when I was a kid, I was fed soy milk in a warm plastic bag.
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That was the fad then growing up. So the the formula industry is a huge moneymaker, and some women do prefer it. Fortunately, seventy five percent of women in The USA today do initiate breastfeeding. So that’s very much better than the polio days when almost nobody was breastfeeding, and they were using milk in the infant formula that had been contaminated by what the cows were eating.
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Oh my god.
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And so that was another part of the polio story that’s not been told.
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So the cows were all eating these pesticides
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Yes.
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And herbicides.
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Yes.
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And the cows were getting sick with it. And then these people were drinking the milk from that cow and getting sick as well.
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Oh, well, the
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cows wouldn’t have been getting necessarily getting sick from it, but it would be concentrating in their milk. And so the milk the milk would have been expressed. But but you’re you just brought me back to another place. Cows were also used during the smallpox era, and what you’re saying is true about that.
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So they would basically take, what they thought sorry. It’s just so dark that Ai sometimes you have to laugh. But they would take pus from other animals, scratch it into the belly of a cow, then take the pus the pus off of the the big pimples that would form on the belly of a cow.
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The cow could become very sick, and yet that cow could still be butchered up at the butcher shop. The butcher would get sick with pemphigus or some hand and mouth disease or, you know, the things that the cows normally catch. And so those cows could still be used to produce meat in those cases. I don’t know that it was used to produce milk.
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I don’t think that would’ve I I don’t know. But I know it was used to produce meat because the butchers were getting sick and the people that were eating the the meat were getting sick, and certainly the people that took the vaccines that had certain who knows what in them because it was shown, like, into the nineteen seventies, eighties, and even recently, I have a reference from after the year February, that there was more bacteria and fungus in the smallpox vaccines than there was smallpox virus.
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So it was because they had this thing called pure lymph, which was pus that came out of the horse of a horse’s foot or, a donkey’s pus skin or or a cadaver of a human or a cow’s, ulcerating udders and scraped into glycerin and called pure lymph and marketed all over the world as a this is the look, Joe.
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This was our success. This is the one vaccine that eliminated eradicated a disease. Can you believe that fairy tale? I’ll tell you another one. Like, that it doesn’t get crazy. This is our success.
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This this vaccine that I have described in great detail with what was in it and what people saw under microscopes and then later tested genetically was what was called a quasi species, meaning they don’t even after a while, it became its own thing. It wasn’t from a horse anymore. It wasn’t from a human anymore.
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They called it, humanized horsepox when they, when they genetically characterized the dry vax and then ordered that every dry vax specimen on the planet be destroyed. I think that was around 02/2009.
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Why did they do that?
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Good question. I don’t know. Hiding the evidence, possibly, but they now have a new vaccine, which doesn’t work. But they wanted to bring this one back when I when I was in my the peak of my career in 02/2003. They I got a letter on my desk sai stating that they needed people to get vaccinated for smallpox so that those other people that were getting vaccinated would have somebody that could treat them that would be immune to smallpox.
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Because it’s well known that if you get a smallpox vaccine and you get these horrible scabs that you are going you’re gonna spread smallpox and you’re gonna have a horrible itchy time of secondary infections. You will need a doctor at some point. Well, it turns out that the trials that they did on super healthy people, soldiers that were in top shape were so bad in terms of cardiac disease and other diseases that the government put it on hold for a second and said, oh, no.
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No. We can’t do this. Meanwhile, guess what? They were using the same vaccine in the seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds. Late yeah.
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Seventeen late late seventeen hundreds, all through the eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds, they would sometimes you probably saw the picture of the the child’s arya, considered a good take, five huge ulcers on the arm be with sanitation being what it was, no antibiotics.
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Can you imagine having your baby have five scars on its arm, ulcerating from these things, having fevers? Sometimes the arms became necrotic. Sometimes the disease spread all over the place, and there was nothing to give them except bloodletting, mercurials, and arsenicals, and heating them up in a dark room with no sunlight.
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That was the treatment for smallpox. So you tell me why smallpox was so lethal.
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Well, what’s fascinating also is that most people aren’t aware of the just the general public health conditions during the time of the smallpox outbreak.
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That’s right.
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And, the just the way the way people lived is almost unheard of. You you you wouldn’t you wouldn’t be able to imagine just the smell of human feces everywhere. Like, streets were filled with outhouses. There was animal shit in the streets. There was no sanitation. There’s no running water. It’s a disaster.
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It’s a disaster, and there’s no good food. So you got malnutrition. You you’re exposed to numerous pathogens and just waste. You probably have fecal matter on everything. It’s probably unavoidable. It attracts in your house. It’s everywhere you go.
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It’s your drinking water. Yeah. Yeah. Drinking water was the pet you would skim the top off for your drinking water back then. And we know that co infections make make any primary infection worse. You know, if you have measles and you get a co infection, it makes it worse. COVID with a co infection, anything makes it worse. You end up with, you know, pneumonias and pus pockets in your lungs. Sai, yeah, thank you for that description.
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I don’t think I could have done it much better myself.
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But that’s that’s the That was normal. Go watch Gangs of New York. Like, that’s that’s obviously a a drama and, you know, it’s probably not completely accurate because from I bet it’s pretty close. Yeah. I bet it’s pretty close to how people live back then.
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Yeah. The the slums, like, you can you can actually like, in here, it’s not all medical articles articles quoted. Some of the quotes that we use are historical quotes from, you know, anthropologists that would go through the slums in New York. You know, the Ellis Island was just bringing people in, bringing people in, and these they would sometimes have 20 people in one room with no privy, dark, you know, ai you say, some of the and the the sewage would run underneath the house, so the smell of it would be coming up through the whole time.
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And then you have them working sixteen hours a day at the age of anything up upwards of four to five years old could be sent to either coal mines or canneries, to bring money in, for the families to barely survive. So people weren’t being paid very well. But you just said smallpox being what it was, but what people don’t realize is that in the sixteen hundreds, late ’16 eighties, doctors were describing smallpox as one of the easiest diseases to treat if you simply just supported the human.
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Again, quoted, that and then what happened is the industrial revolution and people were taken with the Land Enclosure Acts out from the farms and brought into cities, which didn’t have the the pigs basically were the garbage men back then. So the pigs ran wild. Thank god. Because if they didn’t, it would have been even worse. Horses were your cars, so your horse were dumping everywhere.
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You know, some people just they said there was a foot of horse manure to get through to walk across the street. So, it it was it was horrible in pretty much every way you can think of and and then the human oppression on top of it in terms of the poverty that was there and the wealthy elite at the top kind of, you know, living the the good ai.
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But it was starting to filter up to them at some point, which is why, it was actually individual people that sponsored the first, public drinking fountains and things like that. It was probably partly to save themselves. Because if you can if you can stop disease from run running running rampant through society, look, they still had to go into the cities to get things.
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Right.
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And and even if you sent your servant into the city, your servant could bring you home something lovely from the city.
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Yeah. This is not the picture that was painted when we were children of what society was like. You know?
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No. We were told that that this vaccine was so important, and it was it was so effective that we don’t need it anymore. I actually ended up with one when I was very young.
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I think what we’re talking about when we’re saying the conditions, that these conditions aren’t known to most people and that these conditions coincide with these diseases. And that that’s probably it’s probably not just a correlation.
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So the the conditions correlate with the the with the diseases, and the conditions also correlate with the death rates. Okay? And so there were many of the diseases that we’re talking say just diarrhea. Do you know diarrhea killed more people in the civil war than bullets
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Yeah.
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And lots of other wars, diarrhea. Diarrhea can be caused by lots of things. Nothing that we vaccinate for, essentially, at the well, I mean, today, there’s rotavirus, but that wasn’t a thing then. It was more, you know, typhus and things like that. So, and cholera Are
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they getting it from water?
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Yeah. That’s what that would have been because they would be out, you know, in the in the in the bush or the trenches, you know, drinking what they could. Sai, redirect me again. We’re just talking about the, okay. So the the diseases that there were never any vaccines for, we see the death rate come down at the same exact avalanche as the diseases that we did vaccinate for.
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And in some cases, there’s a little blip when the vaccine comes up and things get worse for a bit and then come back down. So, again, the point of the book was just interpreting the data that’s existed for a really long time, vital statistics throughout the world as to the decline in death rate.
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In some cases, disease rates went down too, but the most important thing was the death rate because that’s what people your baby could die. You have to have a vaccine. Right? It’s not your baby could have a rash.
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Right.
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You know, so different diseases have different severities and, and different solutions and different ways to treat them so that they never have to present to a hospital. But ai you said, you know, back in those days, you know, there wasn’t the the pharmacies basically had your Mercurials, Arsenacles, if you were lucky, some homeopathics.
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That was pretty much medicine back then until aspirin was invented, which was probably one of the reasons why the 1918 flu looked as bad as it did because they were giving people up to ten grams of aspirin a day, which can cause pulmonary edema in a healthy person. So So
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what was this logic behind the arsenics and the bercurials? Like, how did that become an approach that they use for medicine?
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Well, I don’t know, actually. Don’t know the answer to why they started doing that.
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Those are two really bad things.
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Well, I’ll tell you I’ll tell you how they prescribed it as they would say, give one grain until emesis occurs. That means throwing up. So give it until a person throws up because back then, they believed that if they could get you to throw up. They thought if bringing stuff out of your body was good, bloodletting, throwing up, and diarrhea.
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And so that’s how that was the threshold for giving a lot of these drugs. So they thought instead you know, how can you get someone to have diarrhea with as a doctor? Okay. Well, we can give them Mercurials and our arsenicals. That will do the trick.
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And so they thought that they could purge the body
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by doing that. Meh past, present, and future.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Paradoxically, it’s a therapeutic agent that has been used since ancient times for the treatment of multiple diseases. So does it, actually cure some stuff in small doses?
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Well well, how what could it cure if you have a dead patient or a patient with neuropathy? You haven’t really cured anyone, have you?
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Right. Well, isn’t it dose dependent? Right? It says arsenic trioxide, the active ingredient in a traditional Chinese meh, was shown to produce dramatic remission of acute you could say that wordly, ma’am.
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Promyelocytic leukemia.
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Thank you.
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Yeah. Similar to the fact sai ai vitamin a could do it. Okay.
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Right. Trans retinoic acid. So retinoic acid, which is vitamin a?
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Yeah.
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Okay. That’s interesting.
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Well, I would love to say vitamin a is probably less risky
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than What’s that?
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I’d say it’s less risky for vitamin a than Yeah.
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A little bit. Arsenic.
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I mean, is it definitely slightly different? Arsenic?
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Slightly different kind of arsenic arya lower dose of arsenic? Is that?
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They would they meh things in grains back then. So I I I guess that’s probably, like, maybe, like, a milligram, something like that.
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But the Chinese meh probably the root of it. Right? Why they thought it was medicine?
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Could be. But Maybe
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they use the wrong arsenic or
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that’s possible.
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I guess you cut you start trying the things that you have. Right?
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Mercury is a crazy one though. Haven’t they known that’s poison forever?
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Ai, it Wasn’t that quicksilver though? They used wasn’t it in the same thing or no? I don’t know.
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It’s a fascinating metal because it’s liquid. It’s a liquid meh. A lot of people played with it when they were kids. I know some of the smartest people I know talk about how they played with the mercury ball when they were little.
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Yikes.
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And it’s in thermometers, and, obviously, it works quite well. There’s there’s a use for mercury. But the reason that, that that it’s put into the it was actually in the MMR vaccines and some of the flu vaccines is because it’s an antimicrobial. They’ll kill everything. So maybe that was part of that. It will kill everything. It will kill the microbes in a petri dish.
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So in order to because this is one of the realities of vaccine manufacture, which I want your audience to understand, is that vaccines, while it might look like just a clear liquid, in order to make a vaccine, you have to have either a cow that you put ulcers on and scrape the pus off, or you can evolve it as it had evolved to, maybe getting, you know, some tyler cells that came out of a Cocker Spaniel’s kidney or monkey balls or, or monkey kidneys.
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And you plate those cells out, and then you inoculate it with what you want to grow to put in your vaccine later. But in order to keep those cells alive, you have to put animal blood on it. You have to put different nutrients on top of it. You have to put antibiotics, kanamycin, you know, things like that related to the COVID. Here, mercury. Okay.
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So in the end, you can kill you can make sure when
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you have your final product that if you put
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a little bit of mercury in there that it’s less likely for any of the fungus or the spores or the bacteria or the adventitious viruses that you didn’t know about that were there before will be in your final product. Wonderful. So you have a product now that you can be not completely sure has any of these, deadly microbes, but now has mercury, which the only places it’s actually okay to have on a on the planet, mercury, is in vaccines, your tooth, or toxic landfill.
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So if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor, the hazmat guys will come in. You you’re not allowed to just pick it up if it’s got a if it’s a mercury containing vaccine. The hazmat people have to come and take that away. Yet we’re okay to take, you know, set a portion of that vial and inject it into, you know, a child, a three month old child. How does that work?
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It doesn’t sound logical.
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Six month old, actually.
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There was also the the issue with the different types of mercury. Right? There was is it methyl and ethyl? The two different ethyl. Yeah.
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Apparently, ethyl is good and methyl is bad according to Paul Offit, senior vaccine scientist. But the fact of the matter is, once once mercury is methylated and like, fish fish can methylate mercury and they can get rid of it. Once we demethylate mercury, it’s it’s in us until you do something like something called chelation where you can put a chemical into the body that can grab onto it and pull it out through your urine.
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Otherwise, you’re stuck with it. So in my opinion, all mercury is bad, shouldn’t be put into humans, shouldn’t be in our food sources, shouldn’t be in our environment except for in the look. You can even find uranium in nature. Right? It’s what people do to it to concentrate it and how they use it that becomes a problem.
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Wasn’t the the issue that one of them, I don’t know, it’s methyl or ethylmercury, leaves the body quicker?
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Yes. It’s ethylmercury that leaves the body quicker because methyl is a it’s a it’s a chemical that gets put onto it, naturally. And, apparently, I’m not an expert on mercury poisoning, but, apparently, methylmercury, we don’t have the ability to excrete. But ethylmercury, we do. Yeah.
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But wasn’t there also an issue that it crosses the blood ram barrier?
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Well, anytime there’s inflammation, anything can cross the blood brain barrier. With the it’s the aluminum that we really know crosses the blood brain barrier, and that’s still in vaccines today. And, meh. Anyway, we get into blood brain barrier if you want to. That’s a whole that’s a whole other story. But yeah. So mercury, obviously, it can get into the brain.
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It’s it’s it’s found in the brain. It can get into, you know, your adrenals and your other glands and important areas of your body. And even the thing is that even at such low levels can cause problems. There’s no neurotoxin. There’s no has no place for circulating or being deposited in the human body in any form.
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But isn’t it fascinating that they’ve done such a good job promoting this that people are gonna get outraged at what you’re saying? They’ve done such a good job.
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To my life.
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And you’ve got a lot of courage. Ai don’t wanna commend you for that because writing that book and and being here talking about it takes a lot of courage. And it’s from regular people who want to believe the vaccine. They’re scarier than anybody. The people that are just rabid vaxxers, and they want they they stand for ai, like, they’re the warriors for ai, and they get very aggressive about it.
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And they don’t even wanna breach the subject. They don’t even wanna look at it. Because the more you look at it, if you’re a logical rational person without, like, a deep seated ideology attached to vaccines and you just looked at the reality of it, you just go, what what is this?
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Like, how did you trick people into injecting how many a year now for kids? What is it?
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In the seventies. We’re in the I believe we’re in the seventies.
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That’s insane. Yeah. That’s and then you want to demonize anybody who says anything about vaccine side effects. You arya the craziest of kooks. They come down you with the hardest publicity campaign. It’s so transparent. You see it coming a mile away, and you’re still shocked by how blatant it is.
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And no one wants to look at the actual issue itself. And no one wants to sai, like, well, is she right? If you read your book, you know, is she right?
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Mhmm.
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If if you’re ai, and I think you’re right, like, we’ve been lied to. And we’ve been tricked into thinking that this is all settled ai. And that’s what’s infuriating. It’s not that it’s anti science. It’s like, this is not science. What you guys are doing is not science. You’ve subverted you’ve you’ve perverted that notion and you’ve you’ve done it in an amazing way. I mean, hats off to you.
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What the what they’ve done in terms of, like, brainwashing people to believe that all this is it’s not just necessary, but it saved millions of lives. And anybody that is against it in any way, shape, or form is a quack, and you should be deplatformed and never talked about again.
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And ai public society and cocktail parties, you’ll be shunned.
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Yeah. Well, the way they were able to get away with it is February worth of propaganda, because the fact of the matter is that ever since the beginning of the smallpox vaccines, there have been vaccine deaths. The reason and, look, we we’ve added Ai brought you a a a special copy. This is a limited edition. In the tenth anniversary edition, we added 200 pages.
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We added a chapter called the white plague. The white plague is also tuberculosis. Tuberculosis was a side effect of the, of smallpox vaccine. Tuberculosis rates were ram. And and, in fact, the the the inventor of the smallpox vaccine, his child died of tuberculosis and so did his two test subjects that he used.
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And it was a well known to follow smallpox. Lots of doctors talked about it. But, in in about two or three years after the vaccine was, accepted in in England, you hear doctors speaking out about it, cursing the day they ever agreed to do it to people, to children, to anybody.
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And so what happened is that the government came down harder and started making it mandatory and would take your furniture away and started intimidating the doctors. And that’s an age old thing as well. And I experienced it. And any doctor that’s ever stepped out of of of line and said something bad about vaccines will either be intimidated or worse.
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So two hundred twenty years of prop two hundred twenty six years of propaganda. And and so I’m just gonna give you one example, and I’ll and I’ll give you a copy of this to have, and you can put it up later if you want. But in 1984, because there was so much so much going on in terms of the public learning about the problems with the diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis vaccine, and the polio vaccines, that a federal register was issued by the government and went to all health departments in The United States, which is supposed to have been just kept there and never circulated.
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And it said, quote, any doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccination program must not be allowed to exist. That’s literally what it said. It’s straight out of, you know
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George Orwell.
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Lennon. Yeah. So you had that, and then you have the changing of the goalposts and the outright lies within scientism because it’s not science. It’s the religion that that’s calls itself ai, and we still are a victim of that today. Most science today is sponsored by the very people that are gonna profit from it. And and Ai think and even look.
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Even Jenner, who invented the smallpox vaccine, never did a scientific study. He never did a controlled study. He never did non vaccinated people, vaccinated people, and then expose them to smallpox in in in a large enough group. He would cowpox them and then expose them to smallpox, and it was well known that smallpox followed cowpox. So it it’s just been look.
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Again, I never expected to be here. I just wanted to be a healer. I just wanted to be a doctor. I wanted to be a nephrologist and teach medical students and make the world a better place for people. That’s all I ever wanted.
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This is a nightmare for me, actually, to while while I’ve met some incredible people and and I’ve had a really good life and I have no regrets sana I would do it all again, no doctor wants to be put in a position where their integrity is doubted, their sanity is doubted. And if you wanna pull up a page, called, it is called RationalWiki, I think, maybe.
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Wikip anyway, I’m considered as a Sith Lord, a very, and in fact, I didn’t know what a Sith Lord was back then. I had to actually look it up, sai I’m like Darth Vader. So a bit it was a bit of a meh. But on the other hand, most doctors can’t tolerate being called quacks or having their reputation destroyed.
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And and, you know, I went from treating the CEO of of of, actually, the, the head of the laboratory at my hospital for hypertension to becoming, you know, somebody that was doubted on every levels after a while because of one thing that I said, which was, can we stop giving vaccines to my sick patients, to people who are having, chemotherapy while they’re having chemotherapy, to my patient before I’ve even seen them on the ward?
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Can we just can we just hold this up and give it to them on the day of discharge? That was my request in the beginning. That’s how this all landed here. And had they not tried to intimidate me, doubt me, and pushed me to research and show that what I saw was actually real, I would still be lockstep working as a regular doctor because there were some good things about it.
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So the the look. Even if you look at what happened with COVID, let’s just look at that. Like, how did how did they pass this off? Look at the media today. You know that they’re giving COVID vaccines to six month old children now. We know how bad it is.
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We know that it ruins stem cells in pregnant women. They don’t give stem cells to their babies. The industry is upset because the placentas no longer have stem cells. They used to use those stem cells in research and cosmetics, etcetera. They’re not getting them anymore because of what the COVID shots did to the placentas and those infants.
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That’s not being talked about in the media. Nothing bad about the shots being talked about when we have Kevin McKernan and all these people looking at it going, there’s sai 40 in it. There was a staphylococcal endotoxin gene. There were two snake genes in there. You know, it’s a definite gain of function. Nope.
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We gotta put it on the vaccine, the baby vaccine schedule. Because any doubts whether or not well funded about the vaccination must not be allowed to exist. That’s why.
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That sounds like a religion. And it’s the norm. Ai a cult. It sounds like a crazy cult that the whole world’s been sucked into. Giving a COVID shot to a baby today is insane.
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Three of them. They get three by the certain Sai you’d have to look up the schedule, but I I believe it starts at six months, and they get three of them ai of boom boom.
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Are the
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doctors really recommending this?
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It’s it’s on the it it look. There’s there’s a group of people called ACIP. They’re doctors usually with with, vaccine interest in their bank accounts that make the recommendations for the vaccines, and they have recommended that that six month old. So if your doctor is following the ACIP program, you have to be offered that vaccine.
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And now that doctor this is another part of the story, is that doctor’s likely to lose $250,000 a year if they don’t do that because there’s incentive given to hospitals and doctors, which is what, naively, I was on the other end of when I woke up in 02/2008 and said, wait a minute.
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Why are we doing this stuff to my sick, inflamed patients? You’re giving more inflammation. It’s because the hospital would lose something like $40,000 if they didn’t give a vaccine within the first twenty four hours of admission.
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Oh my god.
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And they would get 40,000 if it it it was all a money game. That’s really the bottom line of it. And I didn’t know that until a nurse years ago, who was a high level administration. She she said, Suzanne, this is why they do they did that to you. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, at least it makes sense now.
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Nobody wants to think of it as a business. The the nobody wants to think you’re making business decisions at the expense of someone’s health and and possibly whether or
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not they make it. Like, what are you what are you doing?
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Well, that that’s been the case since, you know, basically, the the medical profession was infiltrated in the early nineteen hundreds by, you know, high level interest that that didn’t want us thinking for ourselves and carrying on with the natural cures that actually work, carrying on with normal midwifery. There was just so many changes that happened as a result of best practice medicine, not to mention, you know, the forming of the AMA by a couple of real quacks.
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That’s a really good story. And the AMA would give their stamp of approval. So sai you created an infant formula, well, the it would say AMA approved, then your infant formula would sell even better. Meh when doctors smoked camels? Because camels were better. Those were the days.
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And this is also the time when this coincides with when Rockefeller was designing the school system. Right?
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Well, first, Rockefeller I think oil was one of their primary
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So that’s the pharmaceutical speak of it.
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That’s right.
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Yeah. Oh,
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so so you sana talk
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about the school system? He did both. Right? He was a part of both. So he was a part of the he the the reason why natural cures are so easily dismissed and why it’s so dismissed, because Rockefeller put the entire medical establishment on oil based That’s right. So all pharmaceutical drugs that are made by using oil. Yeah. And he did it because he sold oil.
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You know that one of the ironies is it kinda works.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Like, I got I got rid of a really bad case of mange in a dog by kerosene, putting kerosene diluted in olive oil. And and they’ve been through everything. They could not get rid of this mange on this beautiful dog.
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Oh, wow.
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It was a pain corso dog. And, yeah. Sai,
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mange is horrible for dogs.
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Really bad. But one spray, it was done.
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Ai had a dog that I picked
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up. To keep her careful around the like, you know, flames and stuff.
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I had one a dog that I picked up off the street and, took her in, and she had horrible mange. But it all went away with just food. I just gave her healthy food.
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No. We can’t. Joe, come on. You had to have an expert help you.
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No kerosene. No nothing. Just love.
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Food? Oh, that was an argument I had in the hallway once with the senior, chief of medicine. He was he was ai he would always say, so how are you today? Normally, he’d be ai, good. You know, superficial comp I said, by the way, I’m having real trouble with, you know, the h one n one vaccine. My patient’s getting, kidney failure after getting it.
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And he turned dark on me. I never saw him dark before. And he said, no. That just didn’t have time to take effect. And, of course, then I heard every kind of sound ai in the book from him, which I didn’t know were sound bites at the time.
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And then he said, well, what do you think has happened with meningitis and these these college kids? I’m like, oh, come on. That’s a total no brainer. It’s ai their nutrition goes down the tubes when they leave home. They’re smoking. They’re staying up all night long. They’re hanging out with their pals.
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They’re doing everything they couldn’t do when they were at home. Oh, you gotta be kidding me. So you think it’s their food that’s that’s that’s causing problems? And I was like, well, what medical school did you go to? Like, I was actually taught that nutrition matters and how it matters and why it matters, but that’s been almost completely like, if you’re if you wanna sneak a vitamin c into somebody’s hospital room, you know the best way to do it?
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Don’t bring a jar of vitamin c because they will stop that at the door. You get yourself a McDonald’s milkshake or a burger, and you just dump that milkshake out and you put something else in there, a smoothies with some vitamin c, and they will say, off you go. That’s perfectly fine. That’s gonna be great for this person, this child. That’s how you can get it in because they think that McDonald’s is wonderful.
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In fact, McDonald’s are ai of situated proximal to a lot of hospitals and the McDonald’s Ronald McDonald houses are there and everything else. But bring in a homeopathic or, you know, magnesium or vitamin c, and you’ve gotta get permission for it and go through so much red tape.
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And a lot of ai, you’ll be tyler, no. You can’t give it because, oh, you’ll cause bowel necrosis. You’ll cause diarrhea. You’ll cause kidney stones. Everything in the book that doesn’t actually happen with vitamin c. But it’s what most look.
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They’ve measured vitamin c levels on people that enter hospitals, and pretty much everybody is deficient or on the border of deficient when they enter. And pretty much everybody when they leave is got borderline scurvy, if not full full scurvy. Fortunately, they go home and start doing other things and can rebuild some of their vitamin c scores.
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But there there is a there’s a lot of subclinical scurvy walking around out there, and those are the people that are gonna do the worst with the vaccine and then the worst they’re gonna do the worst with the
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Subclinical scurvy in modern ai. Oh, absolutely. Poor diet.
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Well, do you know it’s not just the poor diet. So any kind of stress will consume, vitamin c. A cigarette will consume seventy five milligrams of vitamin c, and they tell you that you only need a hundred ninety milligrams a day. That’s the FDA requirement.
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Wow.
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So you just have a few cigarettes, and you’ve depleted your your stores. So
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Wow.
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We don’t make our own vitamin c as, humans. Humans and guinea pigs, you know, that’s we don’t we don’t do vatsal. And so we have to consume it. And we’re reliant upon our fruits and vegetables or supplements to do or if you eat organ meat, you can eat the adrenals that are loaded with it.
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But, aside from that, it’s your fruits and vegetables that that are gonna give it to you. So if if you’re under a lot of stress or you’re taking medication or you have a lot of inflammation or arthritis, whatever, that’s gonna consume vitamin c, because vitamin c is an antioxidant as well as an antiviral and, you know, good for your nerve sift nervous system.
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Sai, yeah, most people are walking around skimming the the edge. If you have you can see kind of a red line on some people’s gums. They’re probably vitamin c deficient. If your gums are bleeding a lot when you floss, you probably need some vitamin c. And, you know, you could have an infection too.
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But it will deal to the infection as well as the integrity and the collagen inside of your bones and your soft tissues. I mean, it’s it’s like one of those things that’s so important. It should be given upon admission to every hospital.
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And what’s really crazy is if you’re one of those people that thinks that all you need is a a balanced diet and you’re eating, like, a a piece of chicken and some lettuce
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Yeah.
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Like that, there’s no vitamin c in any of that or not enough.
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Probably not enough. Yeah. Not enough. Won’t do it. Yeah.
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You know, if you’re if you’re not consuming, like, some sort of liposomal vitamin c supplement, if you’re not taking something on top of that, you’re probably not at an optimal level to survive anything, which is it’s also it’s, like, part of why we have so many metabolic diseases. We have bad metabolic health. We have metabolic diseases. Like, they should it should be super obvious.
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Like, oh, everyone’s, like, really unhealthy and doesn’t have any nutrients in their system, And they’re all getting really sick from all these different things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But everyone’s ai, no. You need medicine. You need a shot. You need this. You need that. You need to get on this. You need to get off that and get back on this.
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And you’re a hippie If you wanna just eat kiwi fruits and get your vitamin c from that or have oranges Yeah. Or broccoli. Oh ai gosh. Broccoli makes you a total hippie. Or kale. Yeah. Forget about it. Nuts. That no.
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See, we have a different kind of malnutrition today than than we describe in the book. Back then, it was people were toxic from basically drinking poop water and being being worked to death and having diseases all around them. And so they were protein calorie malnutrition as well as vitamin as well.
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Today, we have kind of dysnutrition, you know, like d y s, dysnutrition, and that everyone’s fat, so you don’t they don’t really look malnourished. Pretty meh, you know, you you go on a cruise or you go to the beach. You even Steve, you have big bellies now. Big belly is the thing.
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01:03:54
What was that?
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I said go to Bert Kreischer’s house.
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Who who’s that? That’s my friend. Okay.
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How’s that? Hate that you don’t know who
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he is.
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But, you know, so today, we’ve got inflamed guts from, you know, glyphosate and, you know, the wheat that’s been altered to to make us inflamed and and then just the chemicals that are added to our food and the the vitamins that actually don’t help us and set us back that are fortifying our, you know, bread and milk, lack of vitamin d. So we have a different kind of a problem, but essentially causing the same bodily dysfunction.
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Yeah. The wheat thing Ai used to think was nonsense until I, ate pasta and bread in Italy. And I was like, okay. Why do I feel so much better? Yeah. Why do I not feel like I just ate poison? Because I love, like, pizza.
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Yeah. You love it.
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Ai love lasagna. Oh, I love it. I love it. It’s so good. But after it’s over, I’m like, I’m incapacitated for, like, an hour or two. For, like, a two hour period, you’re just, like, a shadow of yourself just
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Yeah. And you you think, oh, maybe it’s just the high carbs, but you just proved that it wasn’t because in Italy, you were okay with it.
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I ate a whole pizza in Italy, and I was waiting for it. I was like, I’m gonna eat this margherita pizza. It’s so good. They made it in brick oven. Yes.
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I was
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like, this is so good. I’m eating the whole pizza. I don’t care. I don’t care what it’s gonna feel like afterwards. I ate that whole pizza, and then I was like, where is it? Is it coming?
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Waiting for the
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Never came. Never came. I felt normal. I felt like I just ate food. I was like, this is nuts. Like, no crash.
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01:05:24
Yeah. Bryden in Scandinavia, same.
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That’s what people used to eat.
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People don’t know that that what’s that?
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I said that’s what people used to eat.
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It is, like, real real food.
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Real people ai need to understand. Like, what they did was and this is according to, Maynard from TOOL. Do you know Maynard Keenan, the lead singer of TOOL? No. He actually runs a farm. He, he has vineyards, and he has, like, like, he’s Caduceus is his wine label, and he’s, like, really good at growing things. Mhmm.
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Because he has a restaurant. He sai explaining to me that what they did is they just engineered it to have higher yield. So they put more it’s got more complex glutens in it. So it’s not the normal organic wheat that grows in Italy where they don’t have genetically modified crops.
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Right.
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So you could still get that flour and you could still get that pasta from Italy and it’s much more consumable.
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Yeah.
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Definitely. But the American stuff is just thick. It’s just your body’s like, what is this? It just comes in like sludge.
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It is interesting.
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It feels
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like I hate glue. That’s what it always feels ai.
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Yeah. And it’s
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over, like unless it’s, really good sourdough bryden. That doesn’t seem to have that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Kind of agree. Like, I’m not gluten sensitive, but I I definitely feel more awake when I don’t have it.
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Yeah. It’s not.
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Good on holiday or
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when you wanna go
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to sleep. Delicious. You know? I know.
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It’s so delicious.
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But this is also a problem, and this goes back to when RJ Reynolds was going through all their stuff with, the lawsuits that were coming from people realizing, oh my god. Cigarettes give you cancer? They’re not good to, like, smoke if you have emphysema. Mhmm. I thought they were good for you.
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01:06:52
Add
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some arsenic, and it’d be great.
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01:06:54
There was a movie, and I forget what movie it was. And it Thank
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you for smoking.
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01:07:00
Well, there’s that. Okay. There was a movie where, Leonardo DiCaprio was young, and he was sick, and his doctor was prescribing cigarettes to him. Oh. And, like, the mother was saying, did you smoke your cigarettes that the doctor told you? You’re like, you’re not smoking. Like, you need to keep up your health.
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Like
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Well, you know, there’s something to that because you know about the nicotinic receptors, and you know the smokers got less COVID than the rest of us.
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And I do.
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You never know that.
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Protective effect.
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01:07:26
Well, also, doesn’t nicotine kill COVID? Like, people were saying that nicotine no. So that’s what it is? That’s how it kills it?
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01:07:33
What happens? So so the spike of COVID, just the evil part of COVID, has all these horrible lab engineered proteins encoded into them. And two of them are snake toxin proteins that bind onto your nicotinic receptors. Okay? So if you can smoke nicotine or take nicotine gum, then you’re gonna block those receptors up so sai that so you can trade off some of the stuff that’s from the ai.
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What about, like, nicotine pouches?
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01:08:00
Like, these kind of Ai would probably if you’re having, you know, long COVID or, you know, any kind of post COVID syndrome, that’s related to the nicotinic receptors, you only know by trying it. But listen, I always say start small. Don’t go out and be a hero and, you know, take a whole dose at once.
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Start with a quarter of whatever it says and wait and see what happens.
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Yeah.
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Because nicotine’s a powerful drug.
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Try a cigar. Pick up the cigar. Yeah.
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There you go.
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It’s a wonderful habit. Yeah. That was, an uncomfortable thing in the beginning of COVID. They were saying that, for some reason, smokers seem to be having a much easier go of it. Like, what? How do you have a respiratory disease where smokers are, statistically speaking, getting less COVID.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, I’ve been around I did a tour one tyler, and there were two heavy, heavy smokers on the bus with meh. And they were the only two people that didn’t come down with whatever flu with all the rest of us got. Not even that flu couldn’t even live in their throats.
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It ai of makes sense if you think about it.
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Well, it changes the polarity of your mucus meh, the charge of the cells on your mucus meh, and that’s probably part of why that even the viruses can’t adhere properly.
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We’re not encouraging Tigris.
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No. We’re not at all.
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But we are saying it’s
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not necessary. Should be non cured, naturally cured.
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Oh, like American spirits? Yes. Like, those kind of deals?
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I get all my smoking friends to convert to that brand.
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Does that help? Totally help. Come on.
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Are you kidding me? You know how many horrible carcinogens there arya. Do you know back in the native days when they were smoking and and people were smoking natural cigarettes, it was almost unheard of for them to develop lung cancer
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Right.
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01:09:32
With a natural tobacco.
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01:09:34
American Spirit cigarettes are not healthy.
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They’re absolutely wrong.
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01:09:38
They it is. It’s marketed as natural and additive free, which may lead people to believe that they are a safer option. However, there’s no scientific evidence to support this claim. They may even have higher levels of nicotine than some other brands, but the nicotine is not the problem.
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So That’s exactly right. Just by them
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saying that there, that leads me to think that this might be propaganda. Because saying that nicotine is not the problem, that that’s
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That is our
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source. Rather saying that they have I have more nicotine.
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Interview. Okay.
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Meh, I’m just
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But I understand. But AI should understand that nicotine cliff. Oh. He smokes I know I know he does. I’m just saying Ai doesn’t make sense. What doesn’t make sense is that it’s saying they might have more nicotine, but that doesn’t matter.
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They’re not addressing that question.
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Skip time to save time so we don’t have to go through the
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whole process. No. No. No. I’m not saying to you. I’m just saying to them, like, what what they’re writing seems to kinda be silly. Marketing of American spirits as natural can create a false sense of healthiness, which may make it more difficult for people to quit smoking. I think smoking companies wrote this.
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I think the other companies fed this information.
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But
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but but the the package just have the people
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spitting up blood on the packages and stuff. Do you
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see it?
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01:10:45
Oh, in England, you meh those. No.
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01:10:46
They have it now.
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01:10:47
Oh, they have it in America here?
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01:10:47
They’re not having it.
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01:10:48
They used to have it in America. You go to England, and they had photos of people with, like,
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01:10:52
rotting faces.
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01:10:53
First saw it, but it’s moved to the rest of I know it’s hilarious.
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01:10:56
It’s ai,
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01:10:57
and they still buy them and smoke them.
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01:10:58
Well, the the interesting thing is, and I’m glad you brought this up, is just cancer in general. Like, there’s things that cause cancer that they’re just everywhere, and and there’s a lot of things in the environment can cause cancer. But sometimes things get into medications that can cause cancer. And what is what is sai v forty?
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01:11:25
I just wrote down s v forty while you were talking. And I’m gonna I’m just gonna give you an example of what you’re saying is correct. And the fact of the matter is is that all cancers in humanity have gone up since the inception of vaccination. In my opinion, my educated opinion is that our ai should be a hundred and twenty years.
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01:11:41
And I think with the knowledge that we have and the and the wealth that we have on this planet, the ingenuity we have on this planet, we should be able to be touching the hundred twenty year mark more commonly than we do. So when vaccines started, coming into humanity, we were in we started introducing, animal disease into humanity through the sai, And then we started doing intramuscular injections, after the hypodermic needle was created.
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01:12:04
And then you started having deeper injections of of of animal disease and of chemicals and and mercuries and things like that. So along comes polio research, and the polio vaccine, even to this day, is made on African green monkey kidney cells. Now the African green monkey kidneys early on were basically taken out of their wild habitat in India, and millions of monkeys were brought, to The USA for use.
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01:12:32
Unbeknownst to them and discovered by a scientist named doctor Bernice Eddy is that there was a, cancer causing entity inside of the, inside of the the substrate that they were using to make the vaccine on the petri dishes, and that entity was simian virus forty, s v forty, called s v forty because before, there were 39 others discovered before it.
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01:12:55
Now we’re up over 100. So that information was suppressed heavily. Bernice Eddy was offered a ticket to wherever she wanted to go and as much money as she wanted, and she said, no. I’m staying. Long story short is they just kept taking her away from her work and distracting her, and there was another doctor, J. Anthony Morris, as well.
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01:13:12
Anyway, so s v forty was around, and then Maurice Hilleman validated it later and said it came from the African green monkey kidneys. Now it’s benign in African green monkey, s v 40. It is not benign in human beings. In human beings, it was called the perfect war machine by doctor Michelle Carboni, who was one of the primary researchers looking at the carcinogenic potential of simian virus forty.
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01:13:33
So simian virus forty would have been in the, live polio vaccines because there was nothing to kill it, but it was more most likely also in the killed. And African green monkey cells are actually still a listed ingredient on vaccines, so you can go ahead and look that up. It’s a fact.
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01:13:51
So how this affects me is that, I’m ai I’m a kidney specialist, and I looked at the curve of kidney cancers that have gone up since the inception of, vac of polio vaccines and s v forty introduction. So what this virus does, it is it enhances two cancer promoting genes, and it inhibits two cancer suppressors. Okay? That’s why it’s called the perfect war machine.
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01:14:17
So that was in the vaccines that were injected. And so the the bad news is that we don’t need vaccines to give it to us anymore because we’re gonna give it to each other forever, and it’s never going anywhere. That was introduced to humanity like a lot of other diseases were through vaccination. We can give it to our kids. We can give it to each other.
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01:14:34
It comes out in the urine. And so it lives in the green monkey kidneys. It lives in our kidneys. As a kidney specialist, there are a lot of mysterious diseases. Lo and behold, there was some research into some of them, and the research was just put this is the other thing.
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01:14:47
The research that that’s really important just gets killed. The funding gets killed. In terms of Sai forty kidney cancers, there’s no doubt that the rate of kidney cancers has gone up alongside with the, with the infection rate of humanity for SV forty, as well as diseases like glomerulonephritis, which they do find the pathogen, genetic material inside.
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01:15:09
And they’ve and and even in the old days, they found it in the tumors, but not the surrounding areas. So that just tells you that it was a stimulant for the tumor cells to just start, propagating. So that’s that’s just one of the things that that’s just one of meh, many of the obvious ones.
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01:15:24
And even though it’s been well defined in the medical literature, you will see still see that they only admit that it causes mesotheliomas and one other thing, not that it causes all the other things that it does that it’s been shown to cause in the other medical literature that got its funding revoked.
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01:15:39
So s v forty is now contagious amongst people?
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01:15:44
Absolutely. Yeah. We probably both have it. Most of us probably have had it one time or other, you know, whether it’s lying dormant in our kidneys. It depends on it’ll everything depends on your background immunity, which depends on what you’re doing for fun and not fun and how you’re eating and how much you’re sleeping, etcetera, how much sun you’re getting.
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01:16:03
Sweating. Sweating gets rid of a lot of stuff. It’s really good to sweat.
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01:16:08
It’s just such a disturbing thought that this was introduced to people through vaccines and now it’s spreading. And what is the what’s the, like, the worst health impact that it could have if it spreads to you and not through a vaccine? If you didn’t get it through this vaccine and you just get it from another person, like
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01:16:25
Oh, it’s the same thing. It’s not gonna make much difference in terms it’ll it’ll gravitate to your kidneys. Obviously, it probably goes to lung as well. Brain brain tumors were a big problem with it, back in the polio days. Doctor Michelle Carboni was looking at the brain tumors, with that.
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01:16:40
There’s a really good book called The Virus and the Vaccine by Bookchin and Schumacher. It’s an incredible book that details everything about those years, the scientists involved, the suppression, the oppression, the lies, the skullduggery. Then they would bring in the ai who had no experience in actually detecting Sai forty. And lo and behold, he couldn’t find it.
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01:16:58
And he was the one that got to make the ultimate statement on whether SV forty causes human disease or not.
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01:17:07
I just how could they keep injecting that into people if they know this?
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01:17:11
Oh, and this the stocks that contained Sai forty were still, basically being used by the vaccine manufacturers up into the nineteen nineties and probably beyond because there’s two different kinds of SV forty. You’re making me remember a whole bunch of things that I thought I forgot. But there’s the, there’s the fast ai, and there’s the slow dividing.
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01:17:30
There’s two different kind of strains of it. And the original test, though, when they made a vaccine, they would test it for fourteen days looking for SV forty. If it didn’t have it, off you went, and your your vaccine was good to go. But the problem is there was a slower dividing Sai forty that remained in the vaccines that were injected and probably in the stocks that are the stock is basically like your your your mother tincture or whatever.
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01:17:52
It’s what you use to kind of inoculate all the new batches over time. And so the stocks were and that’s again, quote doctor, attorney Stanley Copp’s quote in the book about the, sai forty still being in the stock up in through the nineteen nineties. And, you know, god only knows if there’s if it’s still if they’re still using those same stocks.
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01:18:12
I don’t know because I haven’t gone into the to the more modern times of Sai forty. But, yeah, we all have it. And, there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s just, like, another one of the things that the parasites have finally pretty much put into us to set us back.
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01:18:26
Demons. It’s like like real world demons.
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01:18:31
It’s so crazy that someone would know this and still have this as an ingredient in a vaccine.
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01:18:38
Well, they’ll say that it was it was just an unfortunate set of events that happened because they took wild monkeys from India. Sai, I could work for them. That’s their excuse. And they sai, we’ve we cleaned it up. You know, we started our own monkey colonies, and we started breeding our own monkey colonies that were now found to be free of Sai forty.
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01:18:54
The only problem with that is that, as I said, they had already inoculated humanity, and and it’s it’s with a virus that can be spread, vertically and horizontally as the scientists would describe, meaning we’ve all given it to each other. I think there are gonna be very few people walking around today that haven’t been introduced to it.
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01:19:11
Have there ever been a comparison of, pre cancer rates pre sai forty and post s v forty?
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01:19:18
That’s what I’m talking about. That’s what I did is I I I in one of my videos, I did that and and looked at the cancer rates since they were you know? So, again, what they’ll say is, well, we just didn’t look at the rates beforehand, but the the the rates were quite low before.
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01:19:32
Like, you can you can know what the surgical what the nephrectomies were. So it’s kind of an easy thing to look at because that’s the treatment for kidney cancer. You take the kidney out, because you got another kidney, and it’s a slow growing tumor even though it can metastasize.
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01:19:45
But anyway, I did look at and the the the the rate has skyrocketed for kidney cancers. Pretty much everybody knows somebody who had a kidney cancer.
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01:19:55
And that was not common?
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01:19:57
No. And, also, these protein losing diseases, which is again, it’s not controversial. It was documented when they looked at the the areas that were affected in the kidney, which with with this horrible disease that makes people lose the proteins that need to stay in their blood, in their body, out in their into their urine, that the s p forty was related to that.
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01:20:18
It’s called focal and segmental glomerulosclerosis, and it’s a real problematic disease in children and adults. Ultimately, you have to go on horrible chemotherapy drugs that ruin your immune system and then transplantation if you can’t stay on top of it. Big moneymaker. Now do I think that that was the purpose? Look. I don’t know what was in the hearts and minds. I don’t know what was accidental and what wasn’t.
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01:20:40
But I do know that there was intentional suppression of the truth. Any doubts whether or not well funded must not be allowed to exist. That is a fact, and it’s always been that way. And there have been scientists and doctors talking about that since the beginning of vaccination.
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01:20:55
It’s just too horrible to believe for most people, I think. And then also Yes.
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01:20:59
You’re correct.
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01:20:59
It goes against religious dogma, you know, especially with, people that are, like, firmly on the left Yeah. Trusting the science and trusting the experts. Those are those are two things at the front. Yeah.
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01:21:13
It’s kind of a childlike situation that humanity most of humanity is in is that they’re you know, I think most people are good, and they wanna believe everybody else is good. Yeah. And they wanna believe that the government is looking out for them. And it’s really it’s a kind of horrifying imagine if it was true that your government actually wasn’t looking out for you and that might be the one of the causes of your decreasing lifespan.
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01:21:33
Imagine that if the government might not care so much if your baby ends up with no stem cells or your baby gets cancer or autism, which will be outright I mean, look at autism. Hello. Like, do we how many I don’t even know where to start with that. But that was another thing where there was no doubt whether or not well funded allowed to exist what came to autism.
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01:21:55
And every autistic parent, parent of an autistic child will tell you this. Everyone that’s tried to lobby and get to the truth with autism will tell you that the brick walls and the plexiglass and the lead walls that went down were intense and still are intense. And the the lying studies that they use to uphold vaccines don’t cause autism are so easy to dismantle.
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01:22:17
But you know, Joe, you know, the lie gets around the Earth three times before the truth has a chance to get out of bed, and and that’s just pretty much what happens when the media, is owned. And, like, you’re you’re like one of the cracks in the matrix here, quite frankly.
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01:22:31
I think for a lot of people, it’s too horrible to believe, especially if they have an autistic child, that this was caused by a vaccine. I know a guy who told me that he believes the vaccine had an impact on his child having autism and then later was shaming people for not taking the COVID vaccine.
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01:22:52
That’s how strong Yeah. The impulse is, and that’s how good the propaganda was. And that’s how cowardly a lot of people are when it comes to fighting against a narrative. They get very scared of being socially ostracized, and they they just they can’t speak their mind. They can’t tell the truth, and they’ll whisper it to maybe this one guy that they’re friends with.
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01:23:13
Like, hey, you know, I don’t I I don’t wanna take it, man, but I have to for work. Like, yeah, I want I don’t trust them either. But, you know, shah, don’t tell anybody I said that. You know, you don’t want anybody thinking you’re on the bad ai, and we all saw the propaganda on television.
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01:23:26
There’s some amazing montages that people put together lately of people saying horrible things about the vaccinated people unvaccinated people, horrible things, saying that it’s, it may be ghoulish to laugh when unvaccinated people die, but may it it ai be necessary. Like, what?
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01:23:44
Well, yeah, few of us have to
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01:23:45
take one for the team.
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01:23:47
It’s it was just the weirdest propaganda campaign, and people were doing the job of the man. It wasn’t the man forcing the people to do this thing. It was people doing the job of the man and going after the people that hadn’t stepped in line. And I think for a lot of people, it’s like they felt terrible that they had to do it. But if they did it, now I’m righteous.
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01:24:08
Now I’m I’m on the good side. Why don’t you do it too, man? I fucking did it. You should do it too. You’re fucking selfish.
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01:24:14
And you get a lot of that. You know? You get a lot of people who they know they made a mistake, and they want you to make that mistake too. You know?
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01:24:21
Yeah. It would be good to know what really goes through their heads. I I I think COVID was again, it was unique. But when you talk to parents who have autistic children, the vast majority of them not only know absolutely without a doubt that their child became autistic usually within twenty four to forty eight hours after a certain vaccine, but that every doctor told them it wasn’t the case.
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01:24:43
And then they go digging deep into the scientific literature and learn how to sometimes resuscitate that child’s brain or detox them and then recover them. And then they’re they’re they’re they’re actually beaten up even worse for doing that because just because they’re just neurodiverse. You know? There’s nothing wrong with your child.
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01:24:58
They’re just quirky. No. Your child banging its head against the wall, walking around with a baby bottle and a diaper at the age of 18, your big hairy son doing that, that is not neurodiverse quirkiness. That is a serious pathological disease that probably could have been dealt to at the time and should have been prevented, should have never happened.
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01:25:15
So most parents that have that situation are on fire. It’s the it’s a minority that will sai, have the situation that you have right now. Most of them, that’s a wake up call, which is why they get beat up and suppressed even worse than I do. But when it comes to COVID, there was the the psychological campaign, I think, was was very effective in that people that I would have never imagined took the jab.
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01:25:38
Like, friends of mine who Ai, in a million years, would have I would have bet my life that they would say no to it, ended up getting it, didn’t want it, were really upset about it later, but nonetheless did.
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01:25:47
Sai they read your book?
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01:25:48
Yes. I ai I sai. I didn’t lose any friends during COVID because I ai already lost them back in, like, 02/2009. My my family and friends were solid. My tribe is here. But, yeah. So did but I still love this person. And and and she’s, like, really upset about it, but it’s, like, it just shows you that the psychological campaign, like, to to to get into that person’s brain was was really into, like but I don’t know about you, but there was there was I never had a doubt.
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01:26:15
I never I I was like, well, you’re gonna shut me down, shut me down. You’re gonna stop me from traveling? Go ahead. Stop me from traveling.
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01:26:20
I hadn’t read your book yet. And I was all gung ho to get the vaccine. And, the UFC had allocated 50 something vaccines for all their employees who were doing shows during the pandemic. So I showed up in Vegas, asked for the shot. They said I couldn’t do it. I had to do it on Monday, at the clinic. I couldn’t do it at the UFC. I was like, okay. Fine.
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01:26:41
And they said, can you come back in two weeks and do it when during the next UFC fight? I said, fine. I’ll do it then. During that time, it got pulled from the market for blood clots.
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01:26:51
Which one? Which jab was it?
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01:26:52
Johnson Johnson.
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01:26:53
Okay.
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01:26:53
And then two people I knew who got it had strokes.
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01:26:56
Okay. In that two weeks? Yes. Well, you’ve got a few angels, don’t you?
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01:27:00
Yeah. And I was like, hold on. And then ai whole family got it. There was, like, a bunch of things that happened. My whole family got it and everybody was ai, and I didn’t get it. And I was trying to get it. Like, I had sex with my wife. I I hugged my kids.
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01:27:12
Get COVID?
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01:27:12
No. I didn’t get it.
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01:27:13
But you didn’t get the jab either?
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01:27:15
No. Yeah. No. I I didn’t, but I didn’t get it first time around. I was like, this is crazy. There was two days when I went to the because I was trying to get it. And this which sounds horrible, but I was Ai
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01:27:23
allowed to not get it, Joe.
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01:27:25
I just wanted to get over it. Like Yeah. My kids got over it so fast. Like, my one daughter was one day. She had kind of a headache, and she tested for COVID. She thought it was hilarious. She started laughing. You know? She’s like, oh meh god. I have COVID.
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01:27:36
But we had already told them it’s not dangerous for kids. Don’t worry about it at all. You know? And because there was a lot of kids that were talking about getting vaccinated. I’m like, you are not getting for them, I was like, no way.
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01:27:46
Ai, it’s not I’ll do it if
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01:27:48
I have to work. Ai say no way. Like, what what did you think about it that you didn’t even want your child
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01:27:53
to get it just in case? Unnecessary. So no need to risk it. Totally unnecessary. They got COVID. They got over it like ai. But what did you think
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01:28:00
they would have?
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01:28:00
Before the vaccine. But this is before the vaccine. So after that, I was like, there’s no way. Because there was pressure from their friends to get vaccinated. Ai was like, you’re not getting vaccinated. You have seven times better immunity than someone who gets vaccinated, which is proof. And this is just antibodies. Right?
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01:28:16
Which is and you, enlightened me in your book to the fact that there’s cellular, immunity that’s different than just antibodies. Antibodies is one type of immunity to things. Right?
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01:28:26
That’s right.
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01:28:27
So,
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01:28:28
I was that t h two slant that we were talking about.
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01:28:31
Meh with my kids, it’s it’s like they’re vaccinated. But we did it on a delayed schedule because that’s what my doctor meh, and we had a really good pediatrician. And it worked out great. They’re fine. But I was were a little worried. I was I thought it was quack like to be worried. Like, this is science.
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01:28:46
Like, vaccines Worried
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01:28:46
about what?
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01:28:47
About what could vaccines could do
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01:28:48
to kids. Regular ones.
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01:28:49
Absolutely. And the schedule, the way they wanted to just bang them up, like, real quick. And with weird ones, ai, the hepatitis b one, that one, I was ai when I hear that, I’m like, what are you talking about? You’re gonna give a kid for a sexually transmitted disease, a vaccine when they’re a baby?
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01:29:05
A one day old baby.
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01:29:06
That’s crazy. And, also, is their immune system even working right? I mean, will it even accept this and turn it into an antibody? Like, have you approved that? Like, you’re just jabbing kids?
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01:29:19
Bryden that the child the infant won’t make antibody, and that’s all they ever have to prove. What they don’t ever want to prove is that when when you give let’s ai your child had gotten a COVID vaccine, there’s something called original antigenic sin. They changed the term to linked epitope suppression. It happens with flu shots. It happens with lots of different vaccines.
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01:29:37
Is that if you program your body to attack, you know, the strain of vaccine that you’re a virus rather that you are, injecting against sana then a different strain comes along, it actually has negative efficacy. You are the one that’s more likely to succumb to terrible problems from the infection than, because of your vaccine rather than it actually protecting you.
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01:29:57
And that’s been a well known look. Anthony Fauci writes about it. Morin’s and Fauci wrote a paper basically admitting everything. I think it was in 2023 or 2024 about these shah. And he said the COVID shots are exactly the same as the flu shah.
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01:30:10
Despite that, despite Fauci and Morin’s talking about how these shots would never have been licensed if they were held to the same standards of DPT, etcetera, etcetera, that they don’t provide lung immunity. They only provide blood immunity, negative efficacy. Their their conclusion at the end of it is that we must make better vaccines, more effective vaccines to add to the already existing vaccine program.
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01:30:30
It’s not that we shouldn’t do this. It’s not that we should pull this off the market. That’s always the logic. Again, you they arya not they never will admit to any problem with vaccines to take it off the market. It’s always adding to it, not removing a vaccine. Okay?
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01:30:45
You think it was bad? Let’s start six months now. Six month old babies with parents that are just like you back in the day going, okay. If you really think it’s necessary because, oh, granny doesn’t wanna catch COVID, we’re gonna do it.
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01:30:57
Yeah. That was the logic. Worry about granny. But, you know, this is the Great Barrington Declaration, right, where those guys were like, why don’t we take the people that are vulnerable and isolate them and treat them and and care for them and not worry so much about everybody else and not shut society down because it’s gonna have profound impacts.
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01:31:17
And they were called kooks. And that’s what’s crazy. It’s ai during the the the the the censorship was so rampant that prominent scientists and physicians were removed from the social conversation because they disagreed.
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01:31:36
People were actually case, though. That’s always been It’s
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01:31:38
just but when it’s happening on social media, and it’s so transparent, these people getting removed from Twitter, you’re like, this is wild. Mhmm. This this is so then you find out that the government’s involved, and the government contacted them and asked them to take things down.
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01:31:52
You’re like, what are you what are you saying? Like, what this is nuts.
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01:31:57
Medical papers were retracted. I mean, there’s this one guy named Pradhan, p r a d h a n, who, he showed that there is a GP one twenty, protein on the, spike. And he said it was an uncanny similarity to the GP one twenty in HIV and that there was no way that that would have come out of nowhere and showed up in the February.
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01:32:21
And he showed genetically how that just couldn’t possibly happen. A flurry of emails went through the CDC and to NIAID and to Fauci, And within six days of that paper being in preprint, it was removed. Six days. And what we’ve got we’ve got access from the Freedom of Information Act to some of those emails.
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01:32:39
They’re have bit heavily redacted, but that was the that was the series of events that happened with that because any doubts whether or not well founded.
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01:32:48
All the things you said about the COVID vaccine, I’m sure are correct and true. But isn’t it also different than the vaccine that they used in the test?
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01:32:57
Yes. The vaccine that was produced for the general public, I I believe, at least when it comes to Pfizer, they used magnetic beads for purification, which was totally different to what they did for the one they gave to us. And they produced it using, Ai can’t remember exactly how they produced it, but they didn’t use plasmids, and they didn’t use, you know, all the con all these different components that were given to us.
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01:33:23
I I have a slide on that somewhere that I could show you about. There were two aspects of the test vaccine that were very different to the it was both the production, how they produced it, and how they, quote, purified it.
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01:33:36
And what’s the significance of the differences? Like, did they do it
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01:33:39
to save money? They just didn’t have the plasmid. They wouldn’t have had the lipopolysaccharide with the DNA from the, from the E. Ai that was in there that they told would never get past our deltoid muscle and would be disintegrated. Well, lipopolysaccharide actually is a transit protein that can bring everything right through through your cells, into your our cells are made of it’s like a lipid on the outside.
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01:34:00
So that was the whole purpose sai to shuttle this into your cells. Not only that, but the the the vaccine produced the the the plasmid part of the vaccine that’s injected into you, the messenger RNA, has a substitution for something called uridine. They call it pseudouridine. And pseudouridine was put in there because they didn’t want the immune system to destroy the vaccine too quickly.
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01:34:22
They wanted it to really be able to take hold of your body sai you could have a strong response. Well, that’s one of the reasons why vaccinated people had such, you know, horrible time with actual coronavirus when it did come, and one of the reasons why you didn’t. Maybe you were exposed and you don’t you don’t I don’t know if you’ve had an antibody level tested.
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01:34:40
But, again, that’s another long history thing is people who don’t get sick while everyone else is have been have been accused of witchcraft and sorcerers in the past, and sometimes hunted down and killed. You know, in the times of smallpox, the groups of people that were into cleanliness, and that was that that was a real problem for them.
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I did do nasal swabs to see if I had any, antibodies. I did do that, and I didn’t.
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Well, that won’t tell you antibodies. That just that’s a PCR. That would be your PCR test or your rapid which one did you do? The one that The rapid test. Antigen test. But that’s only gonna tell you if you’ve got active in your nose. What you wanna know is if your immune system again, there’s a good use for antibodies sometimes.
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It’s not
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to see it’s not not not the end all be all in terms of your immunity, but it will show that you have had an experience inside of your body with COVID and
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What was bizarre to me was that there was this there was this narrative that you were going to get it no matter what, and that’s why
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will stop it from you getting it.
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Yeah. Well, it was this is before the vaccine was even around. There was this there’s this talk that there’s no way to not get it. Like, if it’s around you, it’s so contagious, you’re gonna get it. And that’s why I was shocked that I didn’t get it when my whole family got it.
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Like I said, I didn’t isolate at all. I did it on purpose.
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Yeah.
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And I had two days in the gym where I was sluggish. Uh-huh. And so Ai was like, I feel ai tired today, but a weird ai. So I’m just gonna go through the motions. Mhmm. I just, like, really light workout. And the next day, I felt the same thing, like, yeah, another light workout.
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Let’s just take it easy. No need to push it. Just gotta break a little sweat, never stress myself. And then the next day, I felt great. I felt a %. Like, I started working out. I was like, oh, I felt good. And then I was fine.
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I was like, okay. I guess I didn’t get it.
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And then everyone in my family recovered. And then I went from there to, a couple months later, I was doing this, gig in Florida. And I was up with my friend, John Shoman, who’s a a pool he makes pool cues. Shout out to John, good friend of mine. And, we’re playing pool till, like, 05:00 in the morning. And I had, like, five margaritas, and we’re having a good old time and laughing a lot.
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And, then that night, I was like, oh, I don’t feel so good. But it was alcohol and no sleep and playing pool and, you know, and big shows and giant arenas and flying on jets and being tired all the time. You know, that’s what it was. And then I got sick. But even then, it was ai a couple days.
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How was that how close was that to the time when you just said you felt a little tired in the gym that day?
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Few months.
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Okay. Few months difference. Yeah.
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It was a few months. Because by that time, the vaccine had been out. And this was, I guess, the Delta, which was everybody was ai, this is a bad one. The delta is sai bad one.
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You’re supposed to be fearful, you know.
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Yeah. It was, it was a shocking time for meh. Because before that, I never would have guessed in a million years that, I would be even questioning other vaccines. I would have never guessed that. I would have told you that vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history, and it’s, like, saved us from polio.
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It saved us from smallpox. I would have been that guy, ranting off all all those statistics. I would have told you that. But then I read then
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I read your book. Ai read,
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Sorry.
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Sorry. I
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read Robert f Kennedy’s book. I read your book, and I started reading, Turtles All the Way Down, which, also which is really interesting because they wrote another book called Turtles All the Way Down, and someone else published it
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Oh.
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That has almost the identical cover, and that book is a pro vaccine book.
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Nice.
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Like, they literally ai they’re like, what do we do? Oh, this is what we do. We fucking confuse the shit out of people, make one with the exact same cover. Mhmm. Exact same cover, exact same name. Wow. And they made it a pro vaccine book. It’s Yeah. Ai wild. I mean, it’s really kind of a genius.
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Like, what a great way to, like, flood the market with bullshit.
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Mhmm.
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And, the RFK Jr book was bananas. I mean, I the people had told me to read it, and my initial
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The Fauci book?
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Yes. Yeah. My initial thought was, that’s that guy that’s like that anti vaccine kook. Mhmm. That’s what I thought. Mhmm. And I’ve apologized to him for that. When when I talked to him on the podcast, I I said to him, I ai, I I Sai speak I succumbed like everybody else did to the the casual narrative.
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What’s the casual narrative? Oh, that RFK ai a kook, talks weird,
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got a weird voice.
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He’s
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ruining the world’s immunity. Yeah.
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Well, I
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had the same thing. Like, you know, when I was first waking up, I had a friend who had unvaccinated kids that were part of a Steiner school, and they were, like, mutant freaks to me because they had never been on an antibiotic. They were, like, bright and happy and interactive and talented. And, at one point, one of them was playing with a hammer and nail.
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And I said to her mother, I was like, you gotta be careful because she doesn’t have a tetanus vaccine. And someone in the room said, well, Suzanne, what do you know about tetanus? And, like, in my head, I’m I’m a full fledged doctor at this point. I thought, I don’t know anything about tetanus. And outside, I said, I know you don’t wanna get it, and I know it’ll cause lockjaw.
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And then I started reading about tetanus, and I had to go back and, you know, kind of apologize. And then I did a big video. I have a big video out on tetanus and the actual truth about the tetanus vaccines and actual tetanus, which, you know, that’s even harder for most people.
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01:39:48
Like, most people who don’t wanna vaccinate their kids, they’ll vaccinate for tetanus if they can get a single shah, and second only to polio. Everybody’s got their two vaccines that they’re they’re two diseases they’re afraid of for their kid that makes them feel like they’re at least doing something.
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Well, the polio one always gets thrown in my face.
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Yeah.
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Because they sai it all all the time. What
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about polio?
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Yeah. And I just go, I don’t have the time to do this.
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Thank you.
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Read the book. Read the book.
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I just I to to explain to someone the whole DDT connection and the fact that livestock was getting polio, like, this is the thing. Like, polio dogs don’t get polio. They don’t get human derived polio. It doesn’t cross speak. But they were getting paralytic polio symptoms Mhmm.
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Because they were getting poisoned by DDT. The right? That was a big part of the whole thing that was very confusing.
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Well, they started killing dogs. You know, in in New York, in that incidence I told you about where the the vaccine the the gain of function, strain escaped, people were throwing their cats out the window. Some 20,000 cats in New York City were killed during that time because they there was a belief that cats spread the disease.
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Oh my god.
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Jesus Christ. That’s so crazy.
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And it was all a mutant man made virus. The man made virus thing is
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01:41:00
It was a wound up
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virus. Wound up. Wound up.
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Wound up
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by it was basically a natural virus that got kind of wound up by
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So man made to the final form? Yeah. That that’s just crazy that that’s a thing that we do. Because if this gain of function research was so important, wouldn’t you have a cure, like, ready? Like, you’ve been studying this for so long, but didn’t they but it didn’t didn’t really cure it. Right? Oh, okay.
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I mean, wouldn’t you have something that, like, stops it dead in its tracks?
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Allowed to cure it. Look. I was living in a country where, the government said there’s no cure for cove COVID. There is no treatment for it, and there is no prevention for it except the vaccine. And lo and behold, we found out that there was a contract between the government and the pharmaceutical industry to have the emergency use of the vaccine trial on on the population only under the condition that there’s no other treatment available.
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And that’s why the treatments were shut down.
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Right. Yeah.
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Because emergency use, there has to be no other treatment available. If you have ivermectin or if you have zinc and all the other things that we use with success, you know, there were so many people that I treated that should have been dead. I gave COVID to a 95 year old woman who had chronic lung disease called bronchiectasis. She should have been the low hanging fruit.
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I was starting to feel a little bit unhappy one day, really just sluggish ai you mentioned. And when Ai when I was done seeing her, she go, I just wanna give you a hug. And she came over and I was going, oh, no. And after about three days, I was like, I’ve definitely got it. I tested and I I rang her daughter.
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And I said, I’ve gotta tell you, you know, I was exposed. Margie was exposed to blah blah blah. And she’s like, yeah. Mom’s not feeling so good right now. And then two weeks later, I thought, I’ve gotta call back again. I’ve gotta make sure this lady’s okay. She said, oh, no.
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Mom’s out at the hairdresser getting her hair done two weeks later. I still wasn’t recovered two weeks later.
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She was out getting
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her hair done.
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Was she as well?
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She probably used to. I don’t know. She I can’t remember that detail. But there was my senior partner had leukemia. He should have been absolute absolutely dead. Well, not on my watch. He wasn’t gonna be dead. So he’d survived the entire thing and died, like, two years later of something else. So yeah.
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The most shocking aspect of, getting attacked and, like, all the CNN stuff to me was that no one had any interest in why I recovered so quickly. Because if this is supposed to be this death sentence and there’s no treatment, and then Ai a guy in my fifties, and I I got over it quick.
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And then no one cared at all about that. All they wanted to do is mock this idea that I was taking veterinary medicine
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Right.
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Which I wasn’t.
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But it was just the fact that they used that term horse dewormer on every TV shah. On it like, wow. This is it’s wild to watch the machine. It’s uniquely wild when it’s coming after you.
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01:43:45
Mhmm.
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And you’re ai, but this is, like, such a dumb checkers play. I’m like, this is so stupid. I’m still doing my podcast, you fucking idiots. And, like, everyone’s gonna know that you put a green filter over my face. I’m gonna show everybody that. You think you’re just gonna get away with that? No.
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You’re you’re gonna, like, lose all of your credibility, you idiots. It was just so fascinating to watch, like, this distorted understanding of, like, what America is willing to believe or the world is willing to believe. Like, you’re only preaching to the converted, the super hardcore closed minded converted people.
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Everyone else knows you guys are a joke now, and that’s the good part of getting through COVID. The good part of this enormous gaslighting experience that we all just went through, where people are finally, after four years, apologizing to friends, you know, for calling them a plague rat.
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Mhmm.
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You know, like, like, literally, they they got down to that where friends couldn’t be friends with people anymore because they weren’t vaccinated. And people are kind of, like, realizing, like, oh my god. Not only did I get COVID more than anybody else, because I got three shah.
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Like, I’ve I’ve I had a friend telling this. He goes, I got COVID more than everyone I know, and I had all three shots. Mhmm. He’s like, I got COVID eight fucking times. And we’re like, how many times did you get it?
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And everybody that got it naturally was like, I got
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it once. Maybe I got
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it as I got it twice. But the second time I got it, it was literally a sniffy nose. Mhmm. Just literally a and I was joking because we used to test everyone, including the, the guests. Everyone shah came here, we tested for COVID. And, I was joking. I’m like, maybe this is it, and maybe I got it again. And she’s like, you actually got it. I was like, no way.
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This is COVID, and it never got worse. It stopped right there. It was Yeah. That was it. One day. One day of a sniffly nose.
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And then a couple days later, I just said, alright. Let’s try and get tested again, see if we could still do another podcast. Yeah. And that was good. But I had to cancel podcast.
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01:45:43
A healthy immune system.
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01:45:44
You’re not allowed. That but the the fact that that that’s the thing. It’s ai there’s real science behind all the things you talk about in your book in terms of, like, the the, nutritional aspects of healthy foods being an important factor in your immune system. Healthy we’re talking about juices and vegetable juices and all the different times that it’s helped people overcome certain diseases and vitamin a and cod liver oil, which also has vitamin a, which was always prescribed to people that were sick.
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01:46:17
Like, all these things are this is real science. Like, there’s real science in nutritional supplementation and the effects that it has on the immune system. And there’s a real science in nutritional deficiencies and what a negative impact it has. This is all real. And if they truly cared about you, they would be telling you about that as a primary way of defending your body against disease and against all sorts of things that could go wrong.
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01:46:42
All sorts of things. Like, get fit, eat healthy, and you’re above everything. Take supplements, you’re above everything. Like, you’re in the top one percent of people that are gonna do great in life when it comes to getting sick.
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Mhmm.
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Just that. And because most people don’t do that. So you have, like, what percentage of people, like, really eat healthy and really try to exercise on a regular basis? Is it even 10? Is it even ten percent of us? I don’t
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it depends. I get maybe what state you live in.
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Let’s just let’s just have a guess nationwide and see if there’s a chart. Let’s see if there’s a statistic. Let’s guess what percentage of people eat healthy, take vitamins, and exercise regularly. I say ten percent. What do you think?
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Yeah. It could be because you still have got
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your teenagers and your young college students that are in sports and things like that.
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01:47:31
A lot of older people
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are They would qualify.
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Yeah. But a lot of people, like, you know, even though they have a hard job, they still realize, like, I gotta go to the gym before work and just just get it in. Because if I don’t, I won’t have any energy. I’m better off this way. I know it sucks, but just do it. There’s, like, people in it that have enough discipline to do that. So I ought to give it I think it’s one out of 10. That’s what I think.
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01:47:50
What do we got, Jamie?
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01:47:51
I mean, this is impossible Yeah.
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It’s a little bit impossible. What about AI? Run that shit through chatty ai d.
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01:47:57
Well, I’ve just you how are you gonna get the answers? My my point. Not like
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01:48:01
Well, let’s see what chat Americans Meh
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01:48:04
have to honestly answer the the question in a poll that they’re you know?
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01:48:08
Well, let’s ask ChatGPT just for a good I
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just Ai my point Chat GPT has to find the answer somewhere.
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01:48:13
Right. But let’s see what she says.
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Well, okay. Well, hold on.
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Let’s just for funsies. Let’s just say
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I know. Right out of the gate, the answer is that eighty six percent of people take vitamins and supplements, which is four in five Meh adults.
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01:48:24
Is that real? That’s good, if that’s true. That’s really good. I wouldn’t take that’s true, though. I don’t
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buy that. That’s what I’m trying to say.
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01:48:30
Yeah. I don’t buy that. That’s that’s written by a supplement company.
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01:48:33
Yeah. And what supplements and how, you know sometimes you can overdo. You do a hair mineral analysis on people and sometimes you find things that are, you know, pretty shocking in terms of that came from meh, you know. You you can overdo it with even selenium.
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Sure.
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It can end up with big problems. So There’s
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01:48:49
also a problem with cross contamination. We one of the things that we found out when we were selling Alpha Brain is that, in the beginning when we would hire a lab to, make the formula for us, like, sai you you you have, like, a list of ingredients, and then they they put together this thing, which is a nootropic.
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They we’d find stuff in there that we didn’t have in there.
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01:49:10
There you go.
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And it was from their bins.
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So they
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didn’t clean their bins. So it’s like, why is vitamin b twelve in this? Like, why is this and that? Why is that? And it’s just because that’s the same factor manufacturing place where they make all kinds of stuff, creatine and
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01:49:24
It did say how it got the answer, but it says less than 10%.
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01:49:27
Okay. Likely less than 10%. Okay. If you’re talking about people consistently do all three, it drops significantly. Less than 10, maybe even closer to three to 5% depending on how strict your definition of healthy is. Yeah. That’s sai that’s what I was
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01:49:42
that was a good guess.
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01:49:42
We’re talking about adults here, presumably. But, you know, one of the facts is that the foundation that your immune system is is created and developed in is probably, if not as more important than vatsal. And that is being born the ai birth versus sai c section. Not putting down people who’ve had c section.
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01:50:05
I’m just saying the science the science shows that there is a distinct difference in c section babies’ immune systems versus non c section. There’s a distinct difference in breastfed babies versus non breastfed. And then there’s a distinct difference in babies whose mothers have a healthy diet and breastfeed versus mothers who don’t have a healthy diet and breastfeed.
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01:50:21
So that foundation, I think, is Sai that foundation actually makes your gut grow normally, which is a large part of your immune system. It colonizes your gut because the bacteria from your mother’s gut goes into your gut, goes in from her gut through her lymph system into her breast sana then into your gut.
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01:50:38
And so all that foundational stuff is something not to be ignored because it’s gonna make you deal with diseases better. And if you have to get vaccinated, it’s gonna make you deal with vaccines better even as a child. Not that I’m in favor of that, but I’m just saying, if you wanna set things up as, you know, solidly as possible to be able to take that insult.
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01:50:55
The problem is we don’t know twenty, thirty, forty years later what the associations are between, you know, bone diseases, skin diseases, cancers, autoimmune diseases. We have some clues. I have some clues that nobody wants to look at, but we’ve got this long term problem that nobody looks at.
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01:51:10
Long term effects of lifestyle, of vaccination, of even Sai forty. There was one study that started tracking a thousand s v forty people that they knew were infected with s v forty looking for diseases later in life, and they stopped it after nineteen years, again, axed, when they still had over 700 people left in the study because they said too much time had gone by.
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01:51:33
Well, the fact of the matter is that’s when the study should have arya. Seventeen to twenty years later is when they sort of started looking at that point, not one year, two years, but, you know, most vaccine trials and drug trials, they don’t they don’t vaccine trials, it’s like two weeks is almost a miracle for someone to follow out that long.
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01:51:49
Forget about looking months or years later. Doesn’t happen.
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01:51:54
When you first decided to write this book, how much apprehension did you have?
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01:51:59
Zero.
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01:51:59
Zero. You were just fully convicted to get this idea out.
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Well, you know, it was a
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bit of a process if you wanna know it.
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Yeah. Sure.
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Yeah. So what first happened is that I kept getting challenged while I was I stayed on for two years as a nephrologist in my hospital. So I wasn’t kicked out. I left because, like, my soul just couldn’t hang out there anymore. And, so during that time, even though I was kind of ostracized behind my back, everybody still respected me as a nephrologist. But I still had to go.
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01:52:27
And in that in that time, I started doing public appearances. Like, I went on the Gary Null shah and started doing things like that, just talking about smallpox and polio because those were my focus because everyone’s saying, what about smallpox? What about polio? And then when I started finding out, I just, I became obsessed with it. It was so interesting.
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01:52:44
So I was morbidly fascinated by the whole thing and and about how everything I found was absolutely contrary to what the mainstream dogma is. And what I had was a mountain that, you know, pile high to the ceiling, and they had sound bites. They had nothing to fight back with me on. Nothing.
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01:53:00
So, this guy named Roman Bystrianek heard me on the radio show, and he he rung my office. And after his third call, I was like, I guess I better call this guy back. And, and he had this idea for a book, and he had done all the charts and the graphics and, started writing the narrative around that of of what the historical meh showed.
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01:53:21
And then I came in as kind of the medical person that was obsessed obsessed with polio and smallpox and happened to know quite a bit about pertussis. So we arya writing the book together, and there’s probably about there’s gotta be, if you were to take a full time job, twenty years, at least twenty years.
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01:53:35
But for me, it was condensed because I became obsessed after I quit my job. All I did, I basically had no money. I lived in a tent with a pop up camper. That was my office. And I sai, like, crazy Ted Kaczynski obsessed with polio in my tent. And, Wow.
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01:53:49
Sai, ai. I didn’t have apprehension. I was like, this information, it’s been so the the US polio surveillance unit charts were supposed to be available in libraries. Lo and behold, every library I went to to find them, I was told they’re not here. There’s only one library, the AMA library, and you have to have special high security clearance to look at them.
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01:54:08
Well, I won’t say how, but I got a hold of them. And what those documents show is that it wasn’t just Cutter Laboratories that had a problem with live polio. It wasn’t just Wyeth. All the vaccine come we didn’t talk about this, but all the vaccine companies had a problem with live virus in their injectable vaccines during Salk’s year.
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01:54:27
So 1954, ’19 ’50 ai, up to 1959, they all were producing vaccine with live virus in it because Salk wouldn’t listen to the scientists abroad who were saying his inactivation curve was where the sun doesn’t shine. So, that beginning of that and just tracking all that down and tracking asking the questions that you asked, well, where did polio go?
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01:54:48
Or, you know, what was really causing the paralysis? Why don’t we see it today? Like, I had to answer all those questions, and every question I answered, it was so satisfying that I just wanted to go on to the next question. And so there was never any hesitation because I just actually I was so single-minded that I didn’t think about, you know, the the threats that could happen as a result of that.
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01:55:09
And it wasn’t until the after the book was out that the threats happened, and I’m still here. And, look. I figure if anybody wants to do me in now, the timing is really bad because this is pretty meh out there now.
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It’s been out there for a while. The Jonas Salk thing was also wild. I thought Jonas Salk was this genius that created this incredible virus that saved humanity.
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01:55:30
Yeah. So did I. So many of our childhood fables turn out not to be true, but that was a big one. And, it’s still hard for a lot of people to to believe, but I I just think it’s like anything. Like, if you’re open to different information and and I always say, look. I am I meh may I can make mistakes. I’m not infallible.
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01:55:51
Some someone has actually found a mistake in the book. I actually went in and corrected it. Sai that’s the difference between me and these other people is that if I made a mistake, I wanna know about it and I will go and make it right and I will publicly admit that I made a mistake.
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01:56:01
But I will say that 99.9% of what in this book what’s in this book is true, factual, and provable. And because I’ve done the research, but it’s a hard thing to do. What doctor’s gonna quit their job? Sai was lucky. I didn’t have kids.
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01:56:15
I didn’t have, you know, medical royalty ancestors who would have been disappointed in me. I came from nothing. I wasn’t afraid to go back to nothing, and so that’s why I was willing to live in a tent until this thing was done and, published in 02/2013. So
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01:56:29
How long did it take you?
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01:56:31
I started working on it. Roman had been working on it for years. He had been going to libraries because his kids got hit hard by ai an ex wife who who jabbed them. He didn’t know about it, and they got really sick. And then he started looking at old graphs and going, oh, that doesn’t make sense.
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01:56:46
So he got obsessed in his own way with the numbers. He’s the numbers guy. And, so he’d been working on it, and then the two of us together worked on it probably from 02/2009 to 02/2013. And then it was published in 02/2013. Ai couldn’t find a publisher. Even the alter alternative publishers didn’t want anything to do with it, so we self published.
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01:57:07
And then after it was successful, guess who wanted to publish our book? And I was like, nope. Sorry. We’re gonna carry on the way we are. Oh, but you’re gonna get such more credibility. It’s ai unlikely.
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01:57:18
That’s funny.
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01:57:18
We did okay.
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01:57:19
If you give us money, you’ll get credibility. Let us take a part of your successful business that you worked on for five years or four years.
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01:57:26
We’ll give you $1 a book.
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01:57:28
That would be sweet.
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01:57:29
Yeah. What a great deal. And then I’ll have a prestige behind my name. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve been published by a real company. When was the last time you looked at a book and said, let me check who published this?
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01:57:39
Exactly.
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01:57:40
Right. Maybe make sure. Somebody recommended this book. Published. It’s all lies. Never heard of this publisher. This is outrageous.
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01:57:48
What’s that there? Forbidden Ai.
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01:57:50
Oh, Jacques Vallee.
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01:57:51
Okay.
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01:57:51
Jacques Vallee is, probably the most interesting UFO researcher that I’ve ever talked to. He’s the guy that was you remember the French scientist? Do you remember Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Did you see that movie?
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01:58:03
A long time ago.
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01:58:04
Long time ago. Do you remember there’s a French scientist on the grounds coordinating with with the army and explaining to everybody what’s going on?
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01:58:10
Okay.
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01:58:11
That French scientist is modeled after this guy. This guy has been following UFOs since, like, the fifties or the sixties? Did you say the fifties?
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01:58:18
Sixties. I mean,
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like, a long time. He’s an older gentleman, but he’s fascinating.
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01:58:24
Okay.
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And he’s very rational. Like, when he talks about it, it’s ai he is very objective in what’s nonsense and what’s true and what we can’t explain. Mhmm. It’s it’s a fascinating subject.
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01:58:36
Ai think similar threads would run through his experience, definitely. Oh, I’m sure. Science.
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01:58:42
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it’s for the longest time, it was a ridiculed subject. Not it didn’t have the same societal impact as being a vaccine skeptic or a an anti vaxxer.
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Right.
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01:58:56
Like, by with that pejorative, they’ve done an incredible job of scaring people into just falling in ai. Because if you question it and someone said, oh, did you know he’s an anti vaxxer?
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01:59:06
Ai. That’s enough. That’s it.
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01:59:07
That’s all you need to hear. And you’re gonna get the after this podcast, sana I I’ve already got it.
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01:59:11
You’re
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gonna get it big time.
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01:59:12
I’ve gotten it already. You know?
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01:59:14
They’ll start picking apart my facts, and they’ll wanna come on and dismantle. This is what always happens. I come in first. I tell my story, and then they bring in the experts who are able to take without me being in the room, of course, because I can’t be able to defend myself and then let the public believe that everything I said was just one big sack of lies.
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01:59:30
Well, they’ll definitely be the usual suspects that’ll be doing that. Yeah. But has anyone ever tried to sit down with you and have a conversation publicly about this and refute it?
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01:59:43
Not that I can recall.
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No one’s offered?
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01:59:46
Yeah. I I have to say I’m not that interested in in doing that because I just feel like, you know, debate is it’s an actual skill to be a debater. People people study debate, and people get really good at it. And I’m I’m not a debater. Like, I put if somebody wanted to debate me in writing, I would be happy to do that because then I could sit there and take my time, you know, go through the the references that I needed rather than having to, you know
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02:00:11
Right. That makes sense. You know, have your artillery
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02:00:13
ready, you know, at me without having a shield. Right.
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02:00:16
And there’s an anxiety aspect to that and, like, you know, there’s a lot of adrenaline and emotions and, yeah, it’s a skill.
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02:00:23
But I would do it only if we had a topic that was, you know, basically agreed upon beforehand that we could both upskill on and use what we know as as that debate point. But it usually just becomes character assassination.
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02:00:35
It does.
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02:00:35
Yeah.
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02:00:36
It does. It’s super unfortunate. And it it’s really transparent when it’s some about a serious subject. Like, why do you have to attack someone’s who they arya, make make it ridicule them instead of just refuting the facts or or it laying out your case. Mhmm. It just doesn’t make sense that anybody who’s right would do that. That’s not what you do when you’re right. That’s what you do when you’re trying to ridicule people.
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02:00:57
And you’re usually trying to ridicule people because you need an edge. You know, it’s like a a bully. They’re they’re ai if you see fighters, like ai a like a UFC fighter in his prime, like Anderson Silva is one of the greatest of all ai. If someone, like, got in his face and tried to intimidate him, it would be kind of hilarious because he was the best fighter in the world. Right.
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02:01:18
So he wouldn’t even have to do it back. He could just smile at you. And that’s sort of the same here. When you’re ridiculing ai, like, right off the bat, a bunch of, you know, ad homonyms about that person, you’re trying to diminish that person to set up your argument as being superior because you’re the superior intellect.
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02:01:35
Mhmm. And you’re doing that because you don’t feel like you’re on level playing field.
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02:01:39
Yeah.
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02:01:39
And so you wanna try to do something to push them off. Make fun of them in some sort of way. Instead of just, like, laying out your version of what reality is, lay out your version if you’re so strong. If you’re so correct, it should be super easy to do.
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02:01:52
Well, just like in sports, it’s the same here.
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02:01:54
It’s like cheating is for losers. You know, if you’re a winner, you’re not you don’t have to cheat. And Yeah. And that’s the same with them. Like, if their product is so wonderful that everybody needs it so badly, then why is there such is they what they say is that we’re too stupid to understand how they’re saving our lives and how they this is one of the big arguments that we really ought to touch on is that they say that our lifespan has improved as a result of medical interventions.
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02:02:15
When what we show in here, what other scientists have shown is that, it’s about 3.5% of, the contribution from medicine goes into our expend extended ai, 3.5% based on antibiotics, vaccines, etcetera. The rest of it was all about the revolution, the health revolution, the clean water, the shelter, the electricity, the child labor laws, you know, ending.
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02:02:40
So, you know, the magic of medicine is not what people think, and it really traps it really traps a lot of people. Like, I I think there’s a value to to the medical field in terms of surgery and certain drugs and if you have an organ failure, like, absolutely. But why not? Like, my Hippocratic oath said that I should consult, you know, any consultant that will help my patient and keep the well-being of my patient stable.
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02:03:03
Well, to me, that includes, you know, using every therapy that is is as the most benign therapies possible first. The ones that work along with the blueprint of the human body, that go along with the the the the theory of health rather than pounding down disease. You’re always gonna get a better result that way, assuming you’ve got time and, you know, you haven’t waited till the last minute.
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02:03:24
We certainly will get a better result if you do get the disease that way. Like, the idea that you could just ignore everything but a a medication is so silly. Right. And it doesn’t the only reason why you would do that is if that’s the only way you made your money. And that’s really especially if you’re in the vaccine business and you’re you have an enormous ad budget and you’re sponsoring all the television networks.
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02:03:47
Well, that’s the big thing. And the other thing is people trust what they see on the television. You know? CNN Ai ai. Yeah. And now I ai at it, and I think, oh my goodness. You know what cracked it for me is when when they when they publicly, villainized Andy Wakefield. And I actually knew the story behind Andy Wakefield at the time.
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02:04:06
And I was
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02:04:07
like story?
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02:04:08
The story behind him is that, you know, he was he was the doctor you’ll hear. He was publicly shamed. His license was removed. He he published an article about what what he called toxic nodular enterocolitis in children with gastroenterologist, a very high level, very well respected decorated gastroenterologist.
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02:04:26
And he published this paper, which remained in a journal for twelve years. And all it said at the end was, further research needs to be, done in order to see if there is any real connection ai disease. It’s not just bryden disease. And so after he was about to publish another paper showing that in this certain type of monkeys that were vaccinated against hepatitis b lost a lot of their reflexes and had problems.
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02:04:54
And it was on the eve of the publication of that paper that his original paper was revoked. And ever since then, he has been the poster child for vaccine, nonsense, for anti vax crazy people. And in fact, every time I’ve done anything, his name funny that I brought his name up. I love him. He’s a great guy.
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02:05:11
But, his name would always come up. Well, you you’re a friend of Andy Wakefield. Or, no, Andy Wakefield because autism and vaccines has been, debunked because Andy Wakefield ai. He didn’t lie. All he said is Ai did biopsies. I saw this, and this is possibly a connection.
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02:05:27
And since then, other scientists have come in, done the same thing, biopsies. Then they looked at whether the vaccine virus was in that biopsy, and it was. It wasn’t a wild virus. It was the vaccine virus in that area, not the surrounding area. So there is a relationship between gut disease, MMR vaccine, retained, you know, virus that hasn’t been processed properly because it didn’t come into your body properly, and disease, brain disease.
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02:05:51
So that’s a fact. But CNN did a hit job on Andy Wakefield, and I remember going, Well, what’s going on here? Because I know I know what happened with that whole situation. Now CNN is saying this, and that was kind of when, you know, the windscreen cracked for meh, and I just had to start questioning anything.
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02:06:08
And then you’ve got, you know, the doctors that go on there. There are a couple doctors. I think you interviewed one of them, didn’t you?
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02:06:13
Sanjay Gupta.
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02:06:14
Yeah. Yeah.
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02:06:15
There was a guy before him, and some of the stuff he said was pretty unbelievable. That’s what the public is gonna hear. You know, your best chances of dealing with this is to just get the vaccine. If you don’t wanna get shingles, Get that vaccine. Never ai the whole other truth around that because, like you say, it’s the advertisers, but it’s bigger than that.
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02:06:32
Does the shingles vaccine work?
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02:06:35
What do you think about giving yourself a vaccine for something you already have? Like, you think about it. Like, chickenpox is a disease that we all got as kids. You got it as a kid, probably. Oh, you’re kinda superhuman, though. You didn’t even get COVID. I got it eventually. You did. Yeah. So I got eventually.
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02:06:51
You got it eventually. Mhmm. It broke you down. But I got, chicken pox really bryden. And then I
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02:06:57
got chicken pox when I was
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02:06:58
a kid. There you go. So back in the old days, we would all get chicken pox, and then we’d be exposed to other kids that had chicken pox.
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02:07:04
We’d we’d go over kids’ houses if they had chicken pox.
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02:07:06
Yeah. People do. They still do that. I didn’t have to. I got it somehow. I don’t know how I got it, probably from my brother. And so you have this dormant it this this virus lays dormant in your body until your immune system breaks down. So but part of it is not just your immune system breakdown.
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02:07:22
It’s the fact that all these kids are now vaccinated and the circulation of the disease see, some vaccines work in terms of they stop the circulation of the disease, but at a detriment to us. So it’s been a detriment for measles and it’s been a detriment for chickenpox. So chickenpox, we used to get continuous you didn’t have adults didn’t get shingles.
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02:07:40
It was very rare for adults to get shingles before the the chickenpox vaccine came out. Extremely rare. But since then, the rate of shingles in adults and children has skyrocketed because we’re no longer getting our boosters being exposed to the circulating, microbes. So now the solution to that is to give adults, like, four times the the dose of the childhood chickenpox in an injectable vaccine against something that they already have.
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02:08:03
And so the theory is that you’re gonna ramp up your antibodies, and then you’re gonna be able to do battle if your if your, viruses come out again. The only problem with that is that the problem is is the immune system. If you get AIDS or you’re on chemotherapy, your chances of that happening are really high.
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02:08:18
And, yeah. Does the vaccine work or not? I don’t know. But I I I just don’t think it’s it’s just, to me, just a completely strange concept to inject myself with something that I already have along with all the other excipients and compounds that go in a vaccine that nobody wants to talk about either.
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02:08:33
So can you explain how a vaccine is manufactured? Like, how could they not know all the different stuff that’s in it? Like, let’s let’s let’s talk about, like, how the s v forty got in there. So to to you need something alive. You need some sort some sort of tissue from a living creature in order to grow these things.
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02:08:56
Well, in terms of the COVID vaccine, you just needed to pile ram, actually, because it’s made on E. Coli cells, and that’s where you find E. Coli. So, with a lot of the other vaccines, you do need living like, for for tetanus, you need rotten meat. K? That’s how the tetanus vaccine’s made with rotten meat.
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02:09:13
You were talking about tetanus earlier, and you kinda glossed over it, but you didn’t finish up. You were saying that that that tetanus vatsal. You started, like, googling and, like, reading about tetanus itself.
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02:09:23
Yeah. Yeah. Big wake up call with tetanus. So, you know, what we see if if if anyone’s worried about tetanus, what we’re shown is a picture of a soldier from, like, the eighteen hundreds with his well, he’s naked and his art art his back is arched. If you just Google tetanus right now and you look for images, you’ll get this image. And so that’s what we’re told will happen if we get tetanus.
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02:09:44
It’s a sure thing. You’re just gonna get tetanus and you’re gonna die. Well, the fact of the matter is that when I started doing my deep dive in World War one, look, it was fought in the trenches with horses. That’s where you get tetanus from ruminant animals. Lives in their gut, then it goes in the soil, and it’s just a spore.
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02:09:57
Doesn’t do anything until it gets into an area that doesn’t have oxygen. So you get a cut. You get a surgeon to close you up real nice without cleaning it out properly, and you’re a setup for tetanus, which will transform from a spore to a different kind of a microbe and start releasing a toxin that can it first starts as numb numbness, usually in that limb.
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02:10:18
It’s the extreme case is in that soldier who would have been malnourished, stressed out, probably vaccinated for smallpox before he hit the fields, and exposed to enormous amounts of, of tetanus, possibly gunshot wound or a slice somewhere, and then sewn up. Sai, yeah, his nervous system could’ve had a real big dose of toxin and nobody did anything about it. That’s the worst case scenario. You don’t want that to happen.
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02:10:42
But in today’s today, I’ve treated tetanus. Let’s just put it that way. I’ve treated several cases of tetanus. Some One of the cases was neurologically diagnosed tetanus. So tetanus is treatable. You can get on it early.
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02:10:53
Rabbit rabbit studies have shown that if you give vitamin c, if you have a good high vitamin c level before you put glass with tetanus spores on it inside the skin of a rabbit, that you can prevent the tetanus from happening. Even if you give the vitamin c at the time of the injury, you can prevent it from happening.
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02:11:09
If you give it after the event, the death rate goes down to, you know, very, very low, if not zero. So vitamin c is a main factor, but the biggest factor is cleaning a wound and keeping the wound open if you think it’s a dirty wound. Not to close it straight up, which is why nails you say stepping on a nail is the classic because rust can kind of hold the old spores inside of it.
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02:11:30
You step on the nail, you get inoculated, and then you wait for it to to heal over. Well, you that you have to open that wound if that’s gonna happen. But, you know, but tetanus has been there were there was a there’s a whole series of reports on, instances where the cotton that was made ram, menstrual pads for women postpartum was impregnated with tetanus, and they they got horrible cases of tetanus just from using those menstrual pads.
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02:11:53
So the hospital systems have also been, you know, responsible. The biggest thing is that being vaccinated for tetanus is not necessarily security against not getting tetanus. Now am I telling people not to go get vaccinated or or not? No. I’m not.
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02:12:06
I’m just saying there’s so much ai, every vaccine, there’s so much more to the story that should be considered. You can have different strains of tetanus. And and if you’re living on a field that has room in animals, you will be whether you like it or not, you’re gonna be eating whatever’s down in that field, and you’re gonna be inoculated and have antibody and probably cell mediated immunity against it.
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02:12:26
So you’ll already have some immunity to that. So worst case scenario is you have no immunity. You go get a dirty wound, and you don’t get any real competent, medical care for it. Yeah. You can end up getting having a problem with tetanus.
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02:12:39
Whether you’re not gonna have locked jaw and an arched back and die, unlikely today for that to happen. But most tetanus that happens is delayed onset. So the earlier your symptoms come on, the worse the tetanus is gonna be. If it comes on later, generally, the better you’re gonna do.
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02:12:56
Treated with high doses of magnesium, high doses of vitamin c, local wound care, that’s the best thing that you can do. Up to you if you wanna go get jabbed for tetanus after you learn everything about it. Everything’s on my Odysee channel, by the way. That’s where all that because I got canceled out of YouTube for talking about vitamin c for of all things. So everything’s now on Odysee.
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02:13:17
All my videos are on Odysee, and I do do one that’s just on tetanus. And, again, medical reference after medical reference, I don’t make this stuff up. I just report what I read. Yeah.
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02:13:25
It’s crazy that they just kick you off YouTube for reporting studies.
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02:13:29
Yep. Yeah. You can have, like, pornography and murder and all kinds of other stuff on there. It’s pretty ai, some of the things that flash across. Like, I wish I can’t unsee that
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02:13:38
now. Have you
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02:13:39
ever posted your stuff on x?
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02:13:41
Yes. Lots of stuff on x. Yeah.
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02:13:43
So most of this stuff is available there?
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02:13:45
Well, I got canceled out of Twitter when it was Twitter, and I I could not make another account. It’s like they knew where I was. They they were able even ai I was using different phone numbers and different emails, I could not restore an account or anything.
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02:13:56
Ai.
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02:13:56
Yeah. They maybe that’s what Ai used. I used VPN as well. Couldn’t do
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02:14:00
it. Really?
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02:14:01
Then Ai would get an account set up, and then they would say you went against standards and cancel it. So anyway
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02:14:06
They must have put
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02:14:07
a cookie on your phone or something.
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02:14:08
Maybe.
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02:14:08
Did you try a new phone?
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02:14:10
I tried a computer too. Wow. But I did finally get a get an account. I was able to open an account and get a blue check mark, but I’ve only got, like, I don’t have that many followers. I mean, I went from having over 95,000 to having nothing and now rebuild. That’s they love that.
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02:14:24
They love to let us build ourselves up and chop us down and make us rebuild.
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02:14:28
What is your account? We’ll help
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02:14:29
you out. It’s d r it’s doctor Suzanne h seven, d r s u z a n n e h seven. Yeah. And I only look. I don’t post my opinions about different things in the world or dog and cat pictures. Ai. You know? I ai I stay in lane as as best as I can.
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02:14:49
So for you, was the COVID pandemic, was that, like, a big wake up call for people to start reading your book?
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02:15:00
We’ve we’ve had pretty good sales. Like, Roman keeps because he does all the accounting, and he says we just have a good amount of steady saloni. And once in a while, we’ll see like, every time you mentioned the book, we had a little blip on it. During COVID every time Bill Gates comes out and says something stupid, we have a big surge in our sales.
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02:15:15
So they actually help us when they sai with their you know, we’re we’re gonna if we vaccinate enough people, we can help depopulate. It’s like, okay. And for whatever reason, our book sales go up.
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02:15:25
When he starts talking about vaccine deniers and vaccine skeptics, when whenever they started doing that
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02:15:32
and the way the language that they would use was like, when the president was saying our patience is wearing thin. We’ve been patient with you, but our patience is wearing thin. And the White House prints this thing that if you’re vaccinated, you did your job. Mhmm. But for those unvaccinated, you’re looking looking forward to a
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02:15:48
what did they say? A winter of
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02:15:50
Oh, a dark winter.
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02:15:51
Of death and disease. Like, what?
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02:15:55
Do you know dark winter was a tabletop exercise? Do you know about tabletop exercises?
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02:15:59
I do. But what is dark winter?
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02:16:00
So dark winter was one You
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02:16:02
can explain tabletop exercises.
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02:16:03
That involve smallpox. Well, there are lots of them, but Johns Hopkins does I have a whole PowerPoint on this too. But Johns Hopkins conducts a lot of them. They they involve, fictional scenarios where, you know, there could be pandemics and terroristic depositions of toxins and chemicals and microbes that were manipulated in a lab.
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02:16:25
And then who in this in our society is gonna respond and how they’re gonna respond, like the CDC and DARPA and the news outlets arya always of utmost importance is the news outlets and the messaging that goes to the news outlets and these tabletop exercises. But dark winter was one that was a tabletop exercise after the World Trade Center is thing when we were pointing our fingers at Iraq and weapons of mass destruction and a Russian scientist that, you know, had, weaponized smallpox and brought it to Iraq, which they never found, by the way.
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02:16:56
But because of that, that’s why I was asked to get vaccinated for smallpox in 02/2003. It was that dark winter whole that dark winter thing that was going on. Thank god there were a few people on the CDC and consultants, old guys, the old guys with integrity that, like, knew the deal from the old days who were saying, wait a minute.
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02:17:10
Smallpox is not easily transmitted. So that’s a that’s a no no. So even if there is a terroristic smallpox drop, it’s not gonna be easily, easily transmitted. It’s treatable, not high, and the vaccine doesn’t necessarily prevent it. And so that was kind of one of the things that stalled it all out, but then they did the study on the marines because they the part of the the exercises are we must do tests for the new vaccine.
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02:17:34
They use the old vaccine, the ai vax. And there were lots of problems with those, military people. And then, I was asked to sign a 63 page, informed consent, basically, saying that I understood all the problems that could happen to me, that I didn’t have little kids in my life, that I wasn’t gonna be able to spread it.
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02:17:53
I would isolate after I got the vaccine. So they were ultra, ultra careful about this one because they knew they were dealing with something that could be get a very bad reputation. The reason they ultimately canceled it is because any doubts whether or not well funded must not be allowed to exist. Because if we were saying, oh my gosh.
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02:18:09
We have this terrible smallpox vaccine. How did they do it back then? We have the same vaccine, and people are getting really sick and dying and having cardiomyopathies. That’s a problem. And so that’s why the truth gets locked down over COVID. We know. Look. You’ve seen the athletes dropping dead.
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02:18:23
You know about the cardiomyopathies and the pulmonary emboli and and all that kind of thing. Nobody’s talking about the stem cells that the newborn babies are born without. Nobody’s talking about the fact that there are now death doulas to deliver dead babies. Like, that wasn’t even a thing before.
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02:18:37
But I’ve got a friend that’s a midwife who tells me that they are now creating a new field, which are midwives that only deliver dead babies and do nothing else. They didn’t need that before. COVID was an absolute nightmare in terms of, obstetrics, gynecology, labor, and delivery.
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02:18:52
A lot of midwives that that got done and and because they didn’t get vaccinated, they don’t even wanna go back now that they can go back because they don’t wanna have their good reputations of a % of, you know, normal births being dealing with what’s being dealt with today in terms of the birth problems that are happening because of the actual vaccine itself.
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02:19:12
It caused look. If it causes problems and blood clots in our circulation, what do you think it’s gonna do to a placenta that is pretty much all blood vessel? That’s all it is. It’s like a big blood vessel sandwich is what it is.
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02:19:25
And there was no studies that showed that it was safe to give to pregnant women, but yet they were saying that.
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02:19:29
Well, there’s look. Every influenza vaccine pack package insert says it’s never been tested for carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in pregnant women, yet it’s recommended every year for every pregnant woman and every time they get pregnant or not. It’s recommended. Same with the pertussis vaccine. Give it to pregnant women. Never mind that it changes the immune the immune reactivity of the infant. Nobody talks about these things.
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02:19:51
This is what I say when, you know it’s ai the truth is so much more complicated than the sound ai lie. The sound bite lie is what gets around the world three times.
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02:20:01
The science is settled.
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02:20:02
Science is settled. There’s no debate needed because the likes of me are so crazy and, you know, whacked out and, you know, well, I’m trying to just destroy the the good the good order of the the general public. Things like that.
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02:20:13
In your hands.
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02:20:14
But oh, that’s a good one. I always love that one.
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02:20:16
Yeah. It’s a fun one.
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02:20:17
I like that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put see if you
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02:20:22
can pull up RationalWiki and Humphreys. You’ll enjoy this.
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02:20:24
I wanna see the image of the, guy with tetanus. Did you find that? Can I just see one? I wanna see what it looks like when you’re locked up.
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02:20:33
Old painting.
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02:20:34
Well, the one I saw was, like, Ai one. Owl.
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02:20:37
So can I ask you when you’ve treated people that have tetanus and didn’t have the tetanus shah, or did they get tetanus and they had the tetanus shot?
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02:20:44
The one that had the worst tetanus had Meh Lockjohn had the tetanus shot.
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02:20:47
Like, does that comes
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02:20:48
up? Put in painting. Woah. Put in artwork or painting.
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02:20:51
That dead guy. But go up to that dead guy. Yeah. Right there. That’s not real? I mean, it looks real. It looks fake as shit.
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02:20:57
Does it?
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02:20:57
It does.
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02:20:59
Not to me, bro.
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02:21:01
It could be. It could be. But look at he’s he’s clearly been in the hospital for a really long he probably got hospital acquired tetanus.
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02:21:06
A bunch of kids. I don’t wanna put this on the screen.
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02:21:09
Okay. You know? Right.
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02:21:10
Now this was the first one. Right there, why what makes you think that that’s fake?
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02:21:13
The blur it’s very blurry. Yeah. That is weird. That part there looks it definitely It
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02:21:17
does look fake. Tattoos,
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02:21:18
I guess.
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02:21:19
Oh, yeah. It’s probably a bunch of Nazi tattoos.
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02:21:21
But if you put in, painting
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02:21:23
painting soldier tetanus, that then it will come up.
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02:21:26
Is that it
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02:21:26
right there? First one right there. It’s very famous. That’s what’s on the Wikipedia page as well.
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02:21:32
So this is So that
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02:21:33
that you don’t want that to happen, though.
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02:21:35
If you do get tetanus and there is no antibiotics This
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02:21:37
is surely what will happen to you.
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02:21:39
Now today, how would you treat someone who got tetanus?
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02:21:42
Although there are antibiotics, you know, that you you but mostly it’s supportive care until, you know, your therapy starts to work. So some people end up if if it’s not dealt to in time, you can end up ventilated. But, again, that’s it’s a theoretical problem. But if you get on it in time, that’s not certainly not been my experience.
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02:21:59
And so the ones that I’ve treated that haven’t been vaccinated have had the easiest, mildest cases.
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02:22:05
But so your point is I know I’ve
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02:22:06
not done a large ai controlled study.
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02:22:09
But but what’s really important here is what you’re saying is that even if you get the tetanus shot, if you step on a nail, like, you could still get tetanus.
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02:22:16
Look. The one of the tetanus In order
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02:22:18
to make tetanus immune globulin, which is another option when say you have a a cut and your magic tetanus shot doesn’t work right away, then you can get, an immune globulin injection that came from somebody who has had tetanus. Usually, these are people who have actually had tetanus, not who have been and one of the one of the donors that’s in the literature that I use is somebody who has had natural tetanus despite having several, several vaccines.
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02:22:42
Sai, no, the tetanus vaccine is not a guarantee against
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02:22:46
It says it’s it’s ai a severe tetanus. Yeah. It’s a a a That’s right. Before you die, they call it severe.
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02:22:51
Yeah.
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02:22:52
But it sai it could also be caused by
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02:22:54
many types of tetanus. The ai of the dead baby equivalent, of, you know, that they use for tetanus. Sai this was a soldier, I believe, during a a very long time ago, and he was, they don’t even show you his wound. He’s probably stepped on something. It can happen. Not saying it can’t, but, again, are parents given well rounded information? No. They’re not.
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02:23:13
They’re not told that there are actually things you can do to prevent tetanus. Shouldn’t they at least be told how to clean out a wound?
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02:23:18
Right.
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02:23:19
And not to let anybody sew it up and secondary healing is a thing. Like, some people get open heart surgery and because they get infections, I’ve seen this happen. They they just leave everything open and let it fill in on its own. You end up with a big scar, but they’re still alive because the the infection was able to heal from the inside out, or rather the wound was able to heal from the inside out.
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02:23:37
What you don’t want to happen is a wound to heal from the outside because then you’re locking in dead tissue, which is a perfect setup. Tetanus loves dead tissue, which is why they use dead bryden meat to grow the vaccine.
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02:23:48
Oi.
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02:23:51
Toxoid. What
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02:23:52
is it like to have your entire view of medical history do a a one eighty? Like, what what is it like to be a practicing doctor and someone who never would have imagined this until you faced these
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02:24:09
It’s kind of exciting actually because, during my medical residency, like, towards the end of it, I was like I just thought one day, I’m not a healer. I don’t I don’t know how to heal anything. I’m just prolonging people’s lives treating their diseases with drugs. Like, I’m a glorified pharmaceutical technician. I realized that one day.
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02:24:27
And I was like, I’m not a surgeon. I can’t do surgery, so I write prescriptions. I do ai, and I write prescriptions. So I decided to go into a field where people really needed prescriptions. Like, if you don’t have kidney function, you’re on dialysis.
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02:24:39
Like, that’s one of the glories of medicine. Like, you can prolong people’s lives. I really enjoyed that. But then after I left completely and I started studying real physiology beyond what I learned in meh, ai, I’m learning a lot of the stuff you’re learning too, you know, the nootropics and all that stuff that you talk about.
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02:24:53
Well, I’m learning about that that we’re I I love it, actually. It’s exciting. I’ve been liberated from from a prison, essentially, from a stupid prison where where your where my brain was locked down and I was told what to do and how to do it and then watching the results.
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02:25:07
It would be one thing if the results were good. Okay? But the results aren’t good. Like, you we treat symptoms. We treat hypertension. Hypertension is a symptom.
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02:25:14
It’s not a disease. Hypertension can come from lots of different things. That’s just one case in point. So I really love being able to now have the freedom to look at the full human being and their physiology and look at them as an electromagnetic entity that has some chemicals and and and vitamins and help them direct their body back towards the blueprint that it was designed upon.
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02:25:37
And that’s, to me, what real healing and real medicine is about. It’s not about being anti ai, anti this, anti that. It’s ai, how about pro life? How about we get your you know, you’re going out working every day. That’s great because you know ai? You’re getting your blood and your lymph flowing and you’re sweating.
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02:25:51
You sweat you know that aluminum comes out in your sweat. Toxic metals come out in your sweat. You create salt levels in your blood that stimulates your skin immune system, which is a separate entity. Like, I didn’t know any of this when I was a conventionally practicing doctor.
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02:26:05
Ai even say like, I wanted to detoxify mercury out of my patients in order to lower their blood pressure, and I was told that that was not allowed. We’re not like, well, then Sai don’t wanna do this anymore because I know from a hair mineral analysis and from a chelation test that that person is burdened with aluminum and mercury.
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02:26:22
And I know that those both of those things can raise blood pressure, so why wouldn’t we wanna remove that? The same reason we’re not allowed to sai vaccines, but you know what a multibillion dollar industry blood pressure treatment is and cholesterol treatment is?
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02:26:35
Oh, no.
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02:26:36
Forget about it. Yeah. I mean, I saw malignant hypertension after happened after a tetanus shot in an adult patient of ai. And so that was another one, you know, thing that woke me up. And I was like, well, gosh. That’s weird. And then Ai you’d look up. You see there’s other case reports, and then you’re told, well, case reports don’t mean anything. You need randomized controlled studies. Yeah.
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02:26:57
So it’s it’s it’s ai there’s frustration at every corner. But, I love doing what I do now. And and I love I love the fact look. It was all it’s all great. Like, I I wouldn’t change anything in my life. Just put it that way.
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02:27:08
And I’m really glad I have the background of conventional medicine, but that’s ai background of conventional medicine is ai year one in really learning about healing and life. It’s just it’s the very basics. And and and doctors still need to keep learning, but in but most conventional doctors are mandated to keep learning, but they can they’re told where they can read to get their credits every year.
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02:27:28
You can only get your credits from reading this and answering the questions like a good little doggy every year, which I still have to do. But but beyond that, when I have my own spare time, you know, like, I’ve learned ozone therapy. I’ve I’ve learned how to use vitamin c.
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02:27:43
I’ve learned how to look at the body electromagnetically and use ai resonance. And there’s just so much stuff you can do that really helps people and keeps them out of a whole bunch of trouble that they would have gotten into if they went and took allergy medicines and got their tonsils out or kept on their blood pressure medications and let the inflammation go wild in their body and didn’t know anything about how to dampen ai.
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02:28:02
Most disease comes from inflammation. You know? Cholesterol is trying to save you. It’s not trying to kill you. The cholesterol is a response to inflammation.
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02:28:09
It’s like your fever is trying to save your life. It’s like everything in medicine is about dampening down the the symptoms that are trying to save your life. You know? So it’s like I look at it, and I think I can’t believe I ever actually agreed upon that.
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02:28:25
Well, it took a lot of courage to step out of line and speak your mind, and I’m really glad you did, because, I I hope more will realize that this is what a doctor is supposed to do. And you’re not supposed to be a spokesperson for an industry that’s pretty sociopathic, you know, which makes some, you know, great strides.
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02:28:47
Look, there’s a lot of amazing orthopedic surgeons and eye surgeons and neurosurgeons. There’s a lot of amazing work being done by meh. But then there’s also the pharmaceutical drug company, which when attached to that and to the money people, they wanna make more money every time they can.
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02:29:07
Every quarter, they wanna have a bigger quarter. They sana a bigger house. They want a bigger jet, and they just keep going. And the way to get money is to get you to take their stuff. It’s not to heal you.
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02:29:17
The way they really make money is to convince you that you’re sick.
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02:29:21
And if that wasn’t the case, we would have more medical freedom than we have. Right?
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02:29:25
Right.
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02:29:25
Because we would have choices. We would have options. We wouldn’t be told what we have to do to protect the public.
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02:29:30
You shouldn’t be shamed for getting better from some other way. That wouldn’t be a thing.
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02:29:35
I know.
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02:29:36
That wouldn’t be a thing.
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02:29:36
Pretty crazy, isn’t it?
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02:29:37
Yeah. It’s pretty weird. Well, thank you very much for for doing what you do and for writing that book because it was it was a real eye opener for me. You know, it, I had no idea. I had no idea the history of these things. I had no idea the correlations between, like, when the vaccine was induced and what when the death rates had already dropped down.
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02:29:56
I didn’t know all that stuff until I read the book.
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02:29:58
Gave me the book.
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02:29:59
I do not remember. I don’t I don’t remember. Somebody recommended it.
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02:30:03
Okay. And, And you read it.
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02:30:05
Yeah. Cheers to you.
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02:30:06
Well, it’s a page turner. You know, it’s, I listened to it in my car too, and I listened to it, in the sauna. It’s one of those books that you kinda have to go over it a couple of times just to sort of digest it and go, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
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02:30:24
Wait a minute.
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02:30:24
Wait a minute. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Apple cider vinegar they were using to stop people from getting smallpox? Like, what the fuck is that? How is that real? Like, the doctors were saying that they were treating people with smallpox, and they didn’t worry about getting it because they were consuming apple cider vinegar multiple times a day.
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02:30:41
And it actually worked.
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02:30:42
That’s what the reports showed. And even today, apple cider vinegar, you know, it’s had a big resurgence in terms of new you know, keeping your gut pH nice and low so that you can digest your food better, which has downstream effects to everything. But it’s also a fermented product. You know, it’s it’s it’s got a lot of benefits.
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02:30:58
Not just that, but even on the skin, it’s, like, really great to put on chickenpox and probably smallpox as well. But, if I may just direct people to dissolvingillusions.com, because if you just go to Amazon, you’re not gonna there’s two different versions of the book. There’s the original one that you read, and then there’s the tenth anniversary version that has 200 extra pages.
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02:31:16
And we delineate early on what the new what the new pages, what the new chapters are sai you don’t have to go read the old stuff if you don’t want to.
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02:31:23
The new 200 pages cover?
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02:31:25
It covers, tuberculosis. It covers oh, one of this one of the chapters I really love. It’s it’s, toxic medicine of the past, all the different crazy treatments that I was telling you about. And then I added a whole bunch of the whooping cough because more information came out after 02/2013. So we added that in.
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02:31:41
And then we published a second book, which is all full of doctor quotes from 200 years. Because people say, why are you the only one? It’s like, well, I’m actually not the only one. It’s like back then, this was what was recorded from doctors and public health officials, which is probably one percent of what actually was said.
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02:31:56
And then we have hard to find vaccination tragedies, Royal Commission on Vaccination ai, and then we have rare documents at the back, that has, like, the Sai Britannica where they hired a very highly decorated, well known, highly respected doctor to write a chapter on smallpox.
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02:32:14
And at the end, when he did what I did and basically looked at all the facts, he decimated the the vaccine completely. So that you can’t really find that very easily anymore. So this one is called the companion book to dissolving illusions. And then but if you you can see all the versions and all we’ve been translated into eight languages. We’re about to be translated into Chinese.
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02:32:32
But the best, resource is dissolvingillusions.com, and it will show you what your options for purchase and where you can purchase the different books if you sana, you know, an alternative press. We have an alternative press for those people that don’t wanna do Amazon. Sai yeah. And all the different languages and the different versions are on there.
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02:32:49
Alright. Yeah. Thank you again. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it. Ai pleasure. Alright. Bye, everybody ai.
