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Michael Kosta is a standup comic, host of “The Daily Show,” host of his own podcast, “Tennis Anyone,” and author. His new book, “Lucky Loser: Adventures in Tennis and Comedy,” is available now.
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#2290 – Michael Kosta Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the conversation revolves around various topics, including the influence of AI, the comedy scene, and societal issues. A significant portion of the discussion highlights the return of Jon Stewart to The Daily Show, with praise for his unique ability to unify audiences through humor and reason. The hosts appreciate his approach to addressing tribalism and his knack for making insightful yet humorous commentary.
The episode also delves into the intricacies of stand-up comedy, with insights from Louis CK on optimizing comedy club environments. He suggests practical changes like lowering ceilings and deadening sound to enhance the audience’s experience, emphasizing the importance of clear sound over echo.
A recurring theme is the impact of technology and social media, particularly the algorithmic influence on content consumption. The hosts express appreciation for the podcast format as a respite from constant digital engagement, allowing for uninterrupted, meaningful conversations.
Additionally, the episode touches on the success of the “Kill Tony” show, which has gained popularity through short clips and live performances, showcasing the power of digital media in amplifying comedic talent.
The conversation also briefly mentions a book titled “Power Metals” by Vince Ai, discussing the global implications of metal mining for technology, particularly in Africa. This highlights the broader theme of interconnectedness in global issues and the role of media in exploring these topics.
Overall, the episode combines humor with thoughtful discourse on media, technology, and societal challenges, underscoring the importance of diverse perspectives and open dialogue.
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#2290 – Michael Kosta Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Ai my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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Yes, sir, Michael.
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Good to
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see you, my friend.
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Thanks for having me and really appreciate you showing me around. Wow. What a space you’ve you’ve created, man.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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That’s so cool. Keeps going. I was excited to show you the picture of my sana, and then you shah me you got a archery. It’s so cool, man.
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Thank you. That’s so cool. It’s fun. Sai we’re just singing Jon Stewart’s praises, before this started about Ai so happy he’s back at The Daily Shah. And I’m so happy he makes fun of everything. And I’m so happy he still makes dick jokes. Yeah. You know, it’s fun. It’s like The Daily Show seems like The Daily Show again.
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Like, that guy’s a very unique dude, very unique person, and one of the most important, like, pieces to, like, unify everybody. He’s reasonable. Mhmm. Like, he gets the whole big picture. Like, let’s stop being so fucking ridiculously tribal.
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In the morning meeting, he’ll come in, and we’re all sitting there, the ai. And he just kinda shuts the door behind him, and we start talking. But it’s it’s it’s like a it’s like a conversation with a college professor, but he’s in charge. And it’s beautiful. All sides. This. I disagree with that.
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What about this? And it’s like, oh, wow. It’s it’s really fun to be part of. And then someone will yell out a dick joke, and then that joke will make it to the show too. You know, it’s ai smart things and dumb things.
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That’s that’s beautiful.
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Well, he’s never abandoned being a real comic. Correct. Yeah. Which is what got him to the dance in the first place. So he’s always always has that those instincts. And he’s the very best at, like, holding a line and, like, making something, like, even more preposterous just with a facial expression Meh.
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And pointing out, like, these fucking unbelievably ridiculous in your face hypocrisy that you see every day ram both sides.
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Yeah. From both sides. Have you have you ever done stand up with him?
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Oh, yeah. We’ve done stuff together, like, back in the day. Yeah. I kinda can’t remember the last time. I was supposed to do something with him at one of Dave’s things that that he was doing outside back in the day, but I never wound up doing it. But I definitely did stand up with him in the clubs back in New York, and I knew him way way back in the day when he was on MTV.
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Yeah. I remember that. And I think I remember one of his books was called Naked Pictures of Famous People,
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which which is great. He’s a solid guy. Like, he’s a solid guy. I don’t always agree with him, but I don’t always agree with every I don’t even agree with me.
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Isn’t that good? I mean, isn’t that isn’t that the point of this? It’s ai you want a a couple people to be mad sometimes.
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I also think we all as human beings need to be divorced from our ideas. Okay. Your ideas are not you. You arya you. And ideas are things that you should consider. Right. Ideas are something that you should I mean, if it’s gonna have some sort of a real physical impact on your life and your family and your family’s ai, the people you care about.
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I understand. I understand why you get connected to things like that.
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Right.
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But for the most part, most of these ai don’t affect you. A lot of them don’t. And meh, we’re so ideologically captured that we fight for these ideas as if it’s our very nature. Right. Sai you’re you’re talking about your essence as a human being. And it’s stupid.
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This reminds me of a time I left my joke book on a train in New York. And, in the joke book Ai have, this book is important to me. Call me if you get this. You know? And this guy texts me, and he says, I have this joke book. And, you know, talk about your ideas. The joke book is the most unfiltered, dumb idea ever.
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Oh, yeah.
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That’s the beauty of it. Yeah. And I I said, meh. I’m sure he’s reading it. Why you know, you gotta read it. You gotta read a stranger’s joke book. And I connected with him. He was very kind. He gave it to me. But he kinda looked at me like, are are you a comedian type thing?
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And I said, yeah. But it’s terrifying when that idea gets attached to you when it was just a fleeting idea.
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Right. Yeah. The the joke book idea is the best example of that. Right? Because most of what you write is shit, which took me forever to figure out. I was like, god, I’ve just write shit. Yeah. And then every now and then, a gem. Yeah. Like, oh, and then you extract the gem. Yeah.
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But I’ve realized afterwards, you it’s basically like gold mining. Most of the ai, you’re not finding gold. You’re finding garbage.
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And you only get to gold by going through garbage. Yeah. Sometimes I’ll do a shah, and it’s terrible, new joke shah. But then the next day, the thing happens. And I think, oh, that’s because
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Yeah. I
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was digging all day yesterday.
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Yeah. It’s the muse. Right. Yeah. Right. To show up and and request the muse’s love.
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I like that.
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Yeah. I mean, do you ever read, Pressfield’s War of Art? No. It’s It’s really we have a stack of them out there. I’ll give you a copy of it. It’s a small book,
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easy read. Jay Larson, comedian in LA, recommended that book to me ten years ago. Mhmm. And Ai never tackled it.
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Yeah. It’s really good. Ai used to get I used to have a stack of them in the studio where Ai give out to guests. Because sai sana comics, I was like, this is what you need.
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What’s the essence? I will read it. What’s the also, you know what keeps freaking me out? There’s a shooting star behind my head.
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Yeah. There is. Yeah. Every now and then, one will fly above your head.
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What’s the essence? The the the war of art that makes it sound like it’s a struggle to create arya.
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Yeah. It’s the struggle against resistance, which is procrastination, which is this thing that we all do before we actually write, which is so weird. Because I love when I’m actually locked in and great ideas are coming. It’s one of the best feelings in the world. Like, it’s like somehow or another you’re pulling these ideas out of nowhere Yeah.
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And then it’s your job to take this seed and try to go plant it on stage Mhmm. And try to water it and try to over the course of many months, it’ll become a great bit.
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Mhmm.
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And they just only come if you sit there. They only come if you sit there. And what he is saying is that you have to treat it like you’re a professional. And you have to decide at 8AM, I will show up. And I will be there for three hours. I will shut my phone off. I will lock in. This is what I do because I am a professional. Meh.
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And you literally make a prayer to the muse. You you offer yourself to the muse. You say, I’m here to work. I’m here to gather ideas.
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I’m here to
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be creative and be open. And you treat it that way, whether or not the muse is real or not. Right. That’s kind of
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Right.
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You can get hung up on that. But if you treat it like it’s real, it works. Ai love really crazy.
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I love that, and I don’t do that. And early in my comedy career, I would go to the coffee shop at this time and start typing. And I have all these and I remember Tommy at the Comedy Store. He would say, every time I see you, you have new bits. And I would go, meh. Because I’m go and now what’s crazy, life has gotten crazier. I don’t make time for myself to do that, but I need to honor the muse, man. Yeah.
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I like that.
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I’m my move is when everyone’s asleep in my house. Okay. Because I still I get up pretty early for a comic. Yeah. You know, I’m up by eight almost every day.
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Comics are unreal with that.
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Right. But that means that I can go to bed at one and still get seven hours of sleep. Yeah. So that’s what I do. So when everybody in my house kinda goes to bed early, my kids go to school Yeah. Ai wife goes to bed early. Yeah. So when everyone’s asleep, it’s just me and the dog. Yeah. You know, and either we’re watching YouTube or I’m writing.
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And I that’s when I get my best work done.
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You write by hand or
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Ai. Sai type. You ai. Yeah. I feel like, I can’t write fast enough by hand. I need what I like about, typing is that I don’t have to look at the keys. I know how to type. So Ai can make a ai. I can make a word very quickly. I can Yeah. Like, and I can, like, zone in to it.
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But what I really like is a keyboard that I can feel. Like, I need travel in my keys. Yeah. You know, and these clickety clickety clickety little MacBook key, those are bullshit. Okay.
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What you want is a keyboard that you don’t have to look at because it’s got, like, little divots where your finger sits. So I use a ThinkPad and ThinkPads have the best keyboards. They have travel. Each one has like Okay. A couple of millimeters of travel.
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So it’s a clickity clickity clickity. So my fingers know exactly where to go and I ai just get into the zone.
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You’re zoning right now.
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Yeah. Yeah. So that’s how I do it. Ai, the I have like a whole thing Right. Like the laptop that I write on, it’s not connect it has no apps. It never goes anywhere. Ai doesn’t get email. Yeah. It does I only allow myself to use the Bing search engine to find out if some what what the because most of the time ai I’m writing about something, like, you know, when was this discovered?
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That’s a trap for me. Frequently, I’ll start typing. I was working on a bit recently that all of these amazing men, these explorers, these achievers, The idea was because I found out that sir Edmund Hillary, the Mount Everest’s, first man to climb Everest, he had, like, nine kids or something.
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And the idea of the joke was, I don’t even think he likes climbing mountains. I don’t even think he enjoys outdoors. It’s that he’s trying to get away from his family. So then I looked up Roger Bannister, the guy who who, broke the four minute mile. He had, like, seven kids. And I’m like, I don’t even think he likes running. He’s just trying to run away from his family. But I remember writing that bit.
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It’s a funny bit. There might there might have been an Elon thing there. He has a lot of kids going to Mars, whatever. There’s there’s other stuff. But I would keep getting sidetracked by these Googles. Right? Start typing a bit. Now I’m on Sirum and Hillary’s Wikipedia page. Now I’m click I’m and I’m gone.
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And that’s a
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trap. Ai tricky. It’s procrastination. It really is. And you can get locked in.
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So the discipline is just is to keep it stay on the bit, Costa.
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Yeah. I would play this stupid game with myself. It’s like, I’ll just go on YouTube real quick and see if I get inspired by anything before I write. And ai I’m watching two hours of muscle car builds. Right.
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Right.
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Just do It’s wild. Watching people turn their Land Cruiser into an off road vehicle. Like, come on.
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I would do sai handlebars. You know? I would I would find my sai, and then there would be, ai, that’s some it’s 20 different handlebar builds and stuff.
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What kind of motorcycle did you drive?
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I have a a Triumph Bonneville 02/2011. It’s in a it’s in storage in Pennsylvania now. I take it out in the summer a lot. But Where in LA? In LA, that’s vatsal that was what I used all the time.
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You ride a motorcycle in LA?
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I did forever. It’s Holy shit. My wife doesn’t really you know, we have a family now. But in PA, I I ride it a lot. And there, it’s deer, man. They’re very you know, that’s the scary thing there. They get very close. They’re not afraid of cars or motor vehicles at this point.
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Well, there’s a time between, like, September ish to, like, December ish where they’re retarded because they’re horny, you know. Right. Once it starts getting warm out, they start getting goofy. And then when you get cold, like, around November, that’s when it really kicks in.
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Like, if you’re in Pennsylvania or Iowa Mhmm. Oh meh god. I visited my friend John in Ai, and I’m driving down the road, and every fifteen seconds, you’re slamming on your brakes Yeah. Because something’s darting near the road. Yeah.
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They’re all over the place.
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So they’re horny and looking? Yes.
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Right. They’re also getting chased. Right. So the bucks are chasing the females, and the females are just running out into traffic.
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Right.
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And the bucks are following them, which bang.
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I mean, this is like men that ai.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah. Sit as much as the next street where my
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club is. Don’t drive fast. That’s why the road is closed in the weekends. They don’t want people driving down Sixth Street with all these horny idiots.
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I love that they closed that though. That’s good. I didn’t know that.
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It is great. Yeah. But it what scares me is ai what happened in New Orleans where they they have these roads where only people walk down and everyone knows it and this psycho decides to kill a bunch of people. It’s crazy that you have to think that way, but, I mean, there should be some sort of retractable posts that they can pull up.
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Wasn’t there for that one and it didn’t? It wasn’t up. It wasn’t up. Yeah. In New York, you know, it’s a big concrete slab. I was in France last year, and they had these huge flowerpots with beautiful flowers in it. And I said, you know, this is the New York version. It’s a huge concrete slab that says NYPD on it. And this is the French version, which was this enormous beautiful flower pot.
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I go, that’s now that’s serving a function and also beautiful.
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Yeah. Well, the French know how to do things. They know how to do it. They know
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how to
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do it. Yeah. They they party. They know how to party. Yeah. They drink a lot of wine. They stay thin somehow or another, which is odd. Like, I hope RFK Junior figures that out. It seems to me. I’m gonna know how Italians are so thin.
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All the time.
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I go to Italy and Yeah. It what’s also ai the standard cliche, but it is true. You go there, you can eat the food, and it doesn’t affect you the same way. So, like, what and we don’t even think twice about it. We come back here and still order pizza and still feel like shit. If I eat a pizza here, I feel so bloated.
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I ate a pizza in Italy last summer, and I I ate the whole pizza too. The whole margarita pizza. I ate the whole fucking thing. And I was like, I just would just ai myself to, like, the thud of it hitting my digestive tract sana, like, feeling ai I’m on drama meh just ai, Yep.
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I sai myself. I’m ai, I’m eating pizza. Fucking, I’m
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eating pizza. What’s gonna happen?
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Let’s just do it. Nothing. Never came.
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Right.
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Never came. I ate a whole pizza. I was like this the rest of the day. I was ai, this is crazy. I’m not even, like, sludgy. Brisket crushes me. Oh, Terry Blach puts you down, son.
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I mean Ai mean, I had I I was at Houston. Steve Byrne was at the other club. He wanted to get lunch. Yeah. Of course, we go get brisket. I went back to I slept for, like, three and
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a half hours.
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I mean, it is very Did
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you have ai, though?
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I don’t I don’t remember what you
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were doing.
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I bet you had sides.
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You think
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it was the sai? Yeah.
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I think it’s mostly, the starches and, you know, the Yeah. The carbs. It’s mostly like macaroni salad.
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Fatty delicious meat. So good.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Terry Black’s in town is my favorite. Okay. Oh ai they have a beef rib that is the most preposterous thing. You pick the bone up and the ribs slides off the bone. Yeah. I meh, and when you slice into it, it’s just juicy, fatty, smoky.
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Why is the meat falling off the bone such an important It’s so tender.
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It means it’s been slow cooked perfectly. They have a thing where you want your brisket to fold but not break. So they take a slice of brisket and then put it over their hand. And if it breaks off, you fucked up. You made your a mushy brisket, but you want it where it’s just folding. Right. You know, like a thick cloth.
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There’s there’s a life metaphor there too.
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Brisket, you want it right out too. You want it, like, right after they slice it. You don’t wanna wait on brisket. Yeah. You wanna eat it right you don’t wanna eat it before it’s well, you wanna eat it while it’s still warm. Look at that. See the fold of the ai got his finger? Yeah. That’s a that’s a perfectly cooked brisket right there. Dude, I learned Meh.
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Every time I’m here, I learn I remember last time, dude, we we were talking Italian billiards. I didn’t even realize it was a different billiards.
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Oh, they have a bunch of
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different billiards. But, I mean, that’s funny. I never had any idea about that brisket. But You know,
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it was all originally Germans? That that would do the brisket stuff? Germans who came over through Texas. Ai, Fredericksburg Burg is one of the hubs of it. It’s all a bunch of Germans who came over here and they made smoked sausages. And so they came over here and the brisket became a thing because brisket was not a choice cut. It was a a thing that they would throw away. Okay.
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Like, you wanted the speak. You wanted a t bone. You sana So, they would take the brisket and they just figured out, like, if you just slowly cook it, you render it down and break down all the toughness of it. And at the end, you have this delicious tender smoked perfection.
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That puts me to sleep. But it’s They
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know how to do it here, man. They Yeah. They make the best fucking brisket on Earth right here. Terry Black’s, Franklin’s, La Barbecue. There’s ai a bunch of spots in town. Yeah. Was it QB Barbecues at the Egyptian joint that I went to with, with, Action Bronson? That place is insane.
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Having a meal with him would
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be super fun. KB? KG. KG. KG Barbecue. So this gentleman came from Egypt, and, he was, like a finance guy, I think, in Egypt. He just worked in a regular job, came over here, fell in love with brisket, decided to just open up his own barbecue shop. And so this guy makes these incredible recipes with, like, Egyptian and and Middle Eastern spices Jesus. But with Texas barbecue. Oh, my ai. It was so good.
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It was so good. And
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Cool story.
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It’s blowing up now. And it’s just super nice guy too. Yeah. Yeah. Just, like, I love when someone does that. It’s ai, fuck this job. I’m I’m I’m doing I’m what well, you know what I wanna do? I wanna I wanna feed people. I wanna make brisket, awesome brisket. I wanna make a food truck. And this ai, it becomes so popular so quickly that this guy has, like, a real business now. And he’s got a restaurant.
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He’s opening up a second one, I believe.
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That was my favorite part of living in Los Angeles. It’s easy to make fun of LA for good reason. But for the most part, a lot of people were betting on themselves Right.
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And a
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talent they had. Yeah. Not everyone’s but I do love that. I always appreciated that.
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Yeah. I like living in a place where people are definitely going for something Yeah. And taking chances. Yeah. The problem with LA is it also becomes attached with, what is the engine that gets you to where you wanna go. And sometimes that engine is like pure narcissism. Yeah. Or fame.
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Yeah. That’s the goal. Most of the ai, it’s fame.
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Which fuels the narcissism.
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Yeah. But, I think a more interesting question is, how do we find the thing that we’re meant to do? That Egyptian finance man found that brisket is his calling. That’s fascinating.
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In his thirties.
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In his thirties. With
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a career.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right. With a career, making money, having health care
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Yeah.
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Still decided to hang
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it up.
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Egypt, by the way.
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It’s not even close to Austin, Texas. And he comes here not he doesn’t just decide to make barbecue. He decides to
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make barbecue in the home of barbecue. The place.
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Yeah. Yeah. He’s like, fuck it. If you wanna learn jiu jitsu, go to Brazil. Yeah. He just he went right to the heart of it all.
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I remember I was coaching tennis at University of Michigan. I was making 31,000 a year. And I go, I think I can make this in comedy. If I’m gonna get paid like shit, let me at least do what I want. So, of course, the first year I left, first year I did comedy, I made whatever, $6,000 or whatever.
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But I think often how much harder that would have been if I was making a hundred grand. Right. You know, it’s it’s because I was poor, let’s be poor and pick the thing I wanna be doing.
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Oh, a %. Well, that’s the thing about youth. Youth is filled with if you’re 47 years old and you decide that you need to change careers Yeah. You’re gonna be a folk singer and you have a family, like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
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I mean
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You have a Volvo. You have a fucking mortgage, you idiot. Like, you have to go to work. You have to go to work. If you’re gonna make folk songs, you you’re gonna make them on the two hours you have for yourself on the weekend Yeah. When everybody else is out of the house. Yeah. You don’t have any time for that.
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What is it true that Rodney Dangerfield felt comedy so late like that? Well, Rodney
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did comedy and then quit, but kept writing and was selling aluminum siding.
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Right. That’s what I remember in that story.
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Remade it when he was, like, 46.
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That’s fucking awesome story.
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Yeah. How about Shimmel? Shimmel didn’t even start ai he was 36, which I thought was crazy. I remember when I heard because I was a giant Shimmel fan. Okay. And then when I ai heard that he started when he was 36, I was like, what? I didn’t think you could do that. Yeah. I thought you had to start when you were, like, 21.
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Yeah. Or you had no chance. I remember starting at 27 and wondering if it was too late. Right.
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Isn’t that crazy? Is that is
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that or maybe it was twenty five. I forgot that.
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I wish I arya at 27. Yeah. Because when I was 21, I was such a moron.
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Right.
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I just had no opinions on anything. So all my jokes were basically about sex. It was like sex and relationships.
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Where were you at age 20? Boston. Boston. Okay. You that’s right. You were in I was gonna say because you were at least in a good comedy scene. You could see good comedy. Meh. Comedy scene. Yeah. You talked about that.
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Yeah. Best comedy scene. It was the best comedy scene because it was a comedy scene that had world class comedians Mhmm. That the rest of the country didn’t know about. Right. So it was a cheat code. It was like you’re in a gym and you’re sparring with world class ai, like world championship caliber fighters that the rest of the world hasn’t seen yet. Right.
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And that emerges sometimes in fight gyms. Like, you have a bunch of, like, elite fighters, and then all of a sudden, there’s three world champions in this gym, like, two years later.
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Yep.
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Yep. That’s what it was like in Boston because there was these guys that were the Steve Sweenies and the Don Gavins who were as good as anybody that’s ever done comedy, and no one knew who they were outside of Boston. Meh. And you get to see them every night just murdering.
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Were was their drive to get out? No. It was to make money, stay there. Do coke and play golf. Yeah. Those guys are partying. They probably figured I mean, I remember the documentary about Boston comedy where they’d said they would pay comics and coke.
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They were it was a totally different kind of comedian. Yeah. There were these big football player looking men
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Right.
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Who were rowdy, who partied all the time. Right. They were all heavy drinkers. Yeah. They all played golf. They were all animals. They would go on stage and obliterate. Right. When I say obliterate, I mean, these guys would go on stage with a drink in their hand Yeah. And they had a fucking act that was as hammered as a samurai sword. Yeah. It was polished.
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And they would just From the pause
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they would take to the eyebrow raise, all that. Yeah.
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And a lot of it was ai local references. Yeah. Like local Boston stuff. And these they would bury these out of town comedians. I saw them bury Billy Crystal one night. Oh, man. Ram. Ai. Death. Death. Satan was nipping at his heels and dragging him down to the netherworld. It was horrible.
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He was in hell.
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I feel like when I started comedy, drinking was still bit it was bit now I meet all the young comics and everybody’s sober or they’re thinking more about all the different facets. But when I started, there wasn’t YouTube yet. Right. Comics talk shit in the green room a lot. Terrible. Yep. I went and did Yuck Yucks in Vancouver recently.
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In the green room, there’s a sign up that says we don’t harass people in the green room. Room. We and I’m like, this is different.
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This is different. You know? Well, Canada is just on another level with their wokeness.
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Canada is on another level, but, I
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remember Come back to us, Canada.
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Ai I remember Come back. Driving down the road in Vancouver, and there’s all these people just lining up. And I go, what’s going on? And I said, oh, well, they’re lining up for the bus that’s about to come. And I’m like, no. That’s that is that’s Canadian. I mean, like They’re so polite.
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They’re waiting. They know where
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the bus will be in
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the landing up. That is not how it works in Brooklyn.
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And then before they get on the bus, they give their land acknowledgment. Before they step on the bus.
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Do you think that comedy with the polish, the local I mean, it feels like comedy’s taking a different turn now. Now it’s if a bit is kind of working, we post it. It’s up. It’s not polished.
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Well, there’s
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And I miss some of that. That. I miss some of that.
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There’s some of that, but there’s still guys, you know, like Louie who don’t do that Yeah. And Atel doesn’t do that. Yeah. It’s ai Sai get for young guys coming up, it’s a very good way to develop an audience. Like, there’s guys that have a clip, the clip goes viral on TikTok. All of a bryden, they’re selling out shows everywhere, like a guy like Ralph Barbosa. Yep.
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He’s funny guy. Yep. Gets a funny bit. It gets put up. Bam. All of a sudden, he’s headlining all over the country, and it happened to him like that.
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He was opening for me in Dallas before any of that. And, you know, you you always watch the opener. And, normally, I watch the opener like this. Like, this is just is this is this what I have to go up after? Why didn’t I bring my own guy? You know, whatever. Right. And I’m sitting in the green ram, and I’m going, oh, that’s a good bit.
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Oh, that’s a fun oh, the crowd’s going to and I’m going, this this guy’s got it. Yeah. And then six months later, I was, like, watching his special. Right? Or it wasn’t maybe in a a year later. But yeah. I mean, that’s that that’s a great example.
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He’s he’s
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a funny dude. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a great example of what can be done with social media today. You know, and then there’s these guys There’s a
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lot of bad ones too.
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Ai, from Kill Tony, where they do one minute. And a lot of these one minute clips get put into reels, and then these guys are getting huge responses for this. And now they’re doing the killers of Kill Tony, where they’re selling out these huge places. So it’s it’s amazing what can be bryden,
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but But they don’t have an act?
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They don’t. Some of them do. Ai, Arya Matty’s twelve years in. You know, he was doing stand up in Australia. I actually worked with him in Australia Okay. In, like, 02/2006 Okay. ’15, I think. Okay. Somewhere around then. 02/2015, somewhere around then. So Ari’s been at it for a long time. So he’s really good.
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He’s a really solid comic. So he’s like headlining now because of this and like Right. But there’s guys that are in it four or five years, and they don’t really have an act meh, but they have a couple of good jokes. But they’ll figure it out. They’ll figure it out. They’ll figure it out. But you don’t wanna figure all of it out on video in front of the whole world.
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That’s what it is now. Ai so thankful that as soon as I could, I posted my first set on the Internet, but that that was seven years in. Didn’t even you couldn’t even do it.
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Right. Right.
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I would have done it too soon. I mean, it still was too soon. But But it’s okay.
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Yeah. You know, look, you go back and watch my first episodes of this podcast. They were were fucking terrible. Right. I encourage everybody to go back and watch them. The dog shit. You nobody would watch Where
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does one watch the first
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Oh, I bet they’re on YouTube.
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They’re on They’re on They’re on everywhere.
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They’re somewhere. It’s everywhere. But, like, when we first started doing it, I mean, there was no production value. It’s Ai was boring, you know. And then you figure out how to do it. It’s like stand ups. It is. Everything else. Go back and watch someone’s first amateur fight. They they were terrible.
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It is. They make mistakes.
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It is very beautiful to watch people get better at stuff. Yeah. There’s a a female tennis player right now named, Andreeva. I forget how to pronounce her first name. But I just watched her at Indian Wells, and I saw her four years ago at the French Open. Everyone was saying watching you wanna watch Andreeva.
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And I’m like, this is a child that doesn’t know how to play the sport. Why are we talking about her? I watched her last week in absolute nightmare of a beast. You know, hitting the ball, the movement, her shah. And it was like, oh, every day she got better for four and to see that was nuts. And I always go back and watch old oh ai god.
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Novak Djokovic’s first grand slam when he’s got, like, the worst haircut and the baggy shirt and the backhand was looking different. Now just it’s just amazing to see how these athletes evolve. And I’m sure it’s the same for fighters, and you mentioned it was. Sure. Yeah. I love seeing that.
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Yeah.
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I love seeing that. Tennis is like all things. Right? It’s you Yes. When you really do it, then you can truly appreciate people who are great. Yes. Ai, there’s there’s so many things that are ai like in martial arts. It’s a big, ai, especially when things go to the ground. A lot of times people don’t understand how difficult a specific maneuver is, ai, how he did that Yeah. How he baited him with that.
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And then it you have to, like well, there’s certain things I watch when I’m like, oh meh god. Does everybody appreciate this?
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Right.
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That was insane. That was insane. It’s It’s
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a language. And if you don’t speak the I mean, when
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Right.
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I don’t speak MMA language, but that’s where good commentators come in. Oh, they’re excited for a reason.
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Yeah.
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That that was something that we don’t see very often, and that helps me. I assume that’s how it works for tennis people that aren’t or for non tennis people when they’re watching tennis because Oh,
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I’m sure. But I think only a person ai like you who is a professional could appreciate the technique involved and, like, the changing of Djokovic’s back string.
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Yep. You all that. I I pause it. I make my wife come into the living ram, and I sai, watch this. And she’ll watch and she’ll go, that that was good. And Ai go, are you even seeing what he did? He did a short slice to pull him in, and then he went and it’s ai but it’s a language that I speak. And this is life, man.
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Picking these little things we have that we get passionate about is just awesome. Yes. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve I used to shy away from tennis a little bit. It’s an elite sport. It’s got its own history. And now I’m just like, I fucking love it. I love that I’m good at it.
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I love that I know it. It’s fun. The Wokies
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pushed you away from tennis? No. No. The woke is a tough one. It sounds like it was a little too elite. It was a little too, country club. A little too segregated.
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It definitely it it is those things. No. I think what happens
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It doesn’t have to be.
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It doesn’t have to be. And that’s why Yeah.
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It’s just
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a sport. Serena and Venus were such a a a fun,
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fuck up
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to the sport. Do you
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know the Freeway Ricky Ross story?
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No.
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Freeway Ricky Ross was a guy who you know, Rick Ross, the rapper? Yes. He named himself after a famous cocaine dealer
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in
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in Los Angeles called Freeway Ricky Ross. Okay. Freeway Ricky Ross was selling cocaine unbeknownst to him for the CIA to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas.
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Okay. Yeah. So this is the cocaine cowboy type stuff, isn’t it?
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Type stuff, but this is about Oliver North.
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Okay.
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This is all about funneling money into the the the war. Yeah. He was a tennis player. Like an elite tennis ai. Couldn’t even read. Couldn’t read. Yes. And was, this really good tennis player Right. Who, that was, like, what he his hope for sai scholarship. Right. Gets involved, starts selling cocaine, starts selling a lot of cocaine.
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I’m sure.
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Doesn’t know how he’s so successful because he’s worked with the CIA. CIA’s helping him. Goes to jail, learns how to read when he’s in jail, becomes a lawyer in jail, gets himself off because they tried him on three strikes, but they did it for one incident. So they did it incorrectly. And so he gets out of jail.
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So incarceration educated him Yeah. To the point where he got himself out.
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But is there origins or as a tennis player?
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As a tennis player.
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He’s a tennis player. Ai, a really good tennis player.
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You know, Menendez brothers, excellent tennis players. One of them played at UCLA.
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Maybe not the best example. One ai just I’m talking about a guy from South Central LA who can’t read. True. True. Just just to say it’s not necessarily an
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elite sport.
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That’s what you happen. It’s just a sport. Ai agree. And all you need is a court. You mean, it seems pretty cheap. You need a flat surface, a tennis racket, and a ball. Like, let’s go.
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The kids that were beating me when I was a pro played on a dirt court with a rope tied between two sticks. These these South American and Russian player is it was not a money sport. It was not a sport of money. It was a sport of movement and competition. And because there’s no clock, you can have as much time as you want to figure out and beat down your opponent. So that gets a certain type of athlete.
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You know? Yeah. I I think it was Jimmy Connors who sai, I didn’t lose. I just I just ran out of time in that match. I would’ve I would’ve figured it out. Right. But, unfortunately, he beat me. Yeah.
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What happened with me, I was I was was trying to be a stand up comic that I was trying to, so badly that I was trying to remove the athletic stigma. Even now, you sometimes say tennis and people kinda back up. But as I got better at comedy and more confident in my abilities, I said, why am I shying away from the sport that I love and that is such a foundational part of me?
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Ain’t that weird that you felt like you had to move away from athletics in order to fit in in comedy?
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That’s probably a a more succinct way to say it. And the new book that’s out right now, Lucky Loser, is all about how I’m now embracing this tennis because it gave me all the skills to actually be good in comedy.
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Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Discipline, ai, like the tennis player that you’re talking about, that if you do put in the work over time, the results will pay off, and you’ll see it.
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And you’re alone. Yeah. Figure that shit out Oh,
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yeah.
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By yourself. Yep. You’re saloni. And you’re gonna have No teammates. Success and failure. When I was when I was eight years old, I lost in the finals of the Ann Arbor Junior Open. And I realized I was gonna lose, and I started crying on the court. And my older brother runs on the court and holds me like a child.
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I’m I’m I’m crying. There’s a picture of that in the book. Now as a parent, I’m going, who the fuck took that picture? Right? I’m just a kid crying and my brother’s holding me. Is my parents taking that picture?
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They did it for the ram.
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Took that for the gram. But, man, as a comic, holy shah, we’ve all felt like
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that. Yeah.
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Oh, man. It’s so personal when you when you fail as a comic.
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So Well, it’s important to learn how to lose at things, at everything.
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Like, if
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you marry your high school sweetheart and you guys never broke up and that’s the you know, you probably missed out meh congratulations on achieving the most difficult thing humanly possible together for you. That everybody admires. Right? Yes. When you meet a couple and, like, I have two friends of mine that I’ve actually been dating since they were, like, 16 years old.
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And now they’re married with kids in their forties. Congratulations. But I think there’s some value in getting your ass kicked. Yeah. I think there’s some value in a girl saying, no. Yeah. I don’t even like you. Like, no. Yeah. You don’t like me?
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You know, I think it’s good getting dumped is good. I think all that’s valuable. I think you have to learn. And I don’t think you learn by winning all the tyler, and I don’t think you learn if something’s easy, which is why really handsome and really beautiful people are often ridiculous in the way they behave
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That’s true.
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Because they have five aces.
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Right.
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And, you know, and they didn’t earn them. They were just born with five aces. So how
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do you instill grit, toughness in a generation? As a parent, I see my five year old struggling. I oftentimes pop in. Let me get that for you. You know? She’s trying to do little things. She’s trying to do the buttons on her shirt. That’s we we gotta you know? And I do it for her, and I think Ai shouldn’t do it for her. She should be struggling to do this. But this is a big issue right now.
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Right? The younger generation, you hear that word grit. How do we instill that?
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Well, sports is a great way to do it. It’s a great way. It doesn’t work with everybody because some people play sports and they come out even country or, you know, they work yeah. They come out more aggressive or more competitive or more psychotic in their pursuits and just, like, alienates everything else in their life.
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Or it creates trauma for them, not real, you know, ram, but
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Or real trauma. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking head trauma
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if you’re
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playing football. Yeah. Yeah. There’s I think difficult things are important for kids. It doesn’t necessarily have to be that. It could be art. It could be music. It could be something. But I think there’s something when you put your attention to something and realize you can get better at this thing and you find yourself in that thing and you find your potential in that thing that you focus on.
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It doesn’t have to it’s not necessarily that it has to define you, but because oftentimes it does, unfortunately.
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Yeah.
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When people are really good at a thing Yeah. It becomes the whole essence of who they are as a person.
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Yep.
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But it’s a valuable tool for elevating your human potential. And it’s also a way that you can quantify effort versus results. And you can do that in sports and games Yeah. And think chess and Yeah. And art and things that are difficult. Like, you could say, like, I am so much better at playing guitar now because I’ve been playing three hours a day Yeah. For six months. Yeah.
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And look at look what I can do now. Yeah. So I know that there’s a thing. And it teaches you that if there’s a thing that you really love and you focus on it, that thing, if someone does it for a living, why can’t you? Yeah. Why can’t you?
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I
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I agree with you. Some things, we will improve upon faster based on our natural abilities. I loved the way DJs used to seamlessly transfer one song to the other, beat matching, whatever that was called. I I got two I asked for two turntables for Christmas. I I obsessed over it. I fucking sucked at it, dude. I can’t I couldn’t do it.
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I I mean, I Sai I bryden so hard. And then I’m thinking, Ai pick up this tennis racket, and it all kinda clicks very quickly.
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Well, you have a good frame for tennis, first of all.
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Thank you.
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So you’re you’re tyler and long, which really helps. You could reach stuff that other people can’t reach. You think I don’t you don’t think I don’t have
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a good frame for detailing?
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You have, like, a foot more space. Look how much wider your arm. My arms are pretty long, and yours are, like, a foot more.
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Dude, if Pete Sampras did this, the the greatest server Oh, yeah. I mean, his I mean, his ai they say that this is the same height?
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I think so.
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I think they say that this is your height also.
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Yeah. It’s not really.
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I mean,
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it’s your wing span.
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Well, I always heard that from here to here is your foot. I saw that I’m pretty woman. From here to here is
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your foot. But Ai mean, Pete Pete had, like, extra length.
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Yes.
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And people go, how did he get the pop on the serve? It’s like, you know, those Torque.
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Ai, Tommy Hearns with his punches. Yeah. Tommy Hearns was so long and tall. Like, Deontay Wilder is another example. Okay. Those long, tall ai, when you have this torque like, you ever see Deontay Wilder? No. He’s arguably the greatest one punch knockout artist in the history of the heavyweight division. At one point in time, he was ai what is Deontay’s record?
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I think it’s like 40 and he’s had a few losses recently. But at one point in time, he had, like, 39 knockouts out of 40 fights
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Jesus.
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Which is insane.
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And these are professional fighters he’s knocking.
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And he’s undersized for the heavyweight division. When he fought Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury is, like, two sixty. He was two zero nine. Two zero nine.
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He made it to 40 and o.
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40 and o and 39 of those 40 were knockouts. Knockouts. Look at everybody. Knockout, TKO, TKO, KO. He knocked out everybody. And he not get the Lewis Ortiz fight. Show him the Lewis Ortiz fight.
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Forgive forgive this extremely ignorant question. When you say knockout, that means, like
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Flatline.
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The guy’s done. That’s that’s not ai the ref calls it. That’s
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up to 10. As the ref calls it. Knockout is, like, it’s over. Like, you got flatline.
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And these are guys that know how to take hits.
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Elite guys. Yeah. Well, this guy, Luis Ortiz, was on the Cuban Olympic team. He’s a fucking elite fighter, and he was really durable. And Deont so Deontay is see, he’s the one with his back to us. He’s long and tall, but he’s not giant. He’s not a big guy. He pairs with a lot of these guys. But he he catches him with a right hand and flattens him. I think this is the first time they fought, Jamie.
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Oh, you went the second one?
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Yeah. The second one is the KO with one punch. So he he beat him up in the first fight too. But Ortiz is an elite boxer, and Deontay is not the best boxer.
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Right.
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He’s just a hitter.
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Got a hitter.
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And he just he just waiting, waiting, wait. Blam.
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Yeah.
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And he hits guys, and they’re like, what the fuck? Here it is. Watch this.
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Wow. That Yeah. It just collapses. It didn’t even seem like it was that hard of a hit.
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And This is an elite heavyweight. Yeah. Show it again. Show it again because it’s so crazy. It’s just one punch. It’s just black. Might have while they’re hurt.
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A left to the body by
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Sai, Wilder just waits, waits, waits. It’s all waiting. It’s not boxing.
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Yeah. It’s right.
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Waiting. He’s just waiting waiting for his chance. To
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get that record.
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The ring overhand left. Now Wilder needs to get back in the center as King Kong trudges forward over here.
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Unbelievable. Goes hard.
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Well, you got that kind of power. That is so crazy.
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That’s crazy. That’s hard for us to it’s hard for me to even wrap my head around.
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Sai if they show it in the replay because he hits him on the forehead, which is so crazy just before that. Watch this.
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Right there.
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Just before it, Jamie.
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He’s gonna show this
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up. Okay. Here it is. Watch this. He hits him on the forehead, man.
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Not punching. So he’s just waiting.
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He’s just waiting. He’s just pawing at him with his left hand and bang. Ai
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god. Look at that.
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Bro. But it’s all that torque and length and leverage and just god given power ai nobody has.
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Jeez. And the fucking slow motion That’s so crazy. The slow motion camera.
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That’s so crazy. And look at the torque. Look at the wide shoulders and the timing and the speak, and watch just straightens out right on his fucking noggin. Boom.
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You know, in these And
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the follow through with the shoulder, oh my goodness.
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In these sports, like mixed martial arts too, these sports aren’t for me because one punch, it’s done.
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Oh, yeah.
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Meaning meaning I like watching that. Meaning, I wouldn’t have been a good, athlete in that sport.
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Tennis think that.
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Well, like, in tennis, what I love is if you’re just bombing aces, after the first set, clean slate. We start all over again. And in boxing, you make one mistake like that, and it’s done.
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Well, against that guy.
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Against that guy.
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Very unusual. Most guys can’t do that.
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They can’t do that.
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Most guys can hit you pretty hard. You would take a hard hit,
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but you could recover. That’s crazy.
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That’s crazy. That’s Deontay is, like, in a world of his own. And it’s he’s also in a world of his own, again, because he’s not big. Like, there’s Daniel Dubois who is the, he’s I forget which division he’s a champion of right now. But he’s a a giant heavyweight who knocks everybody out.
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But he’s two fifty five, two 60 Yep. Built like a tank. Deontay is literally 40 plus pounds lighter than
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that. Right.
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It’s just one punch. Black.
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I liked how we watched a lot of that, and he hadn’t even thrown a punch. He he He’s not wasting he’s a hitter. He’s there he’s there to kill you.
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He’s not gonna outbox you and be slick. In fact, his movement is sometimes awkward. Yeah. He’s criticized for having bad footwear. His legs look like sticks. Yeah. He has the skinniest legs you’ve ever seen in your life. Like, it’s crazy. Like, you look at his ai. Like, how?
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Yeah.
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How? Yeah. But the power this guy generates is out of this world.
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So his software during a fight is just constantly trying to find the open for one of these huge punches. That’s that’s the whole time he’s doing.
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He’s not boxing you. Yeah. I mean, he’s boxing ai of, but he’s really looking for the big one. And you know if that big one’s lands, it’s nighty night for everybody. That’s The only buddy who’s able to survive it is Tyson Fury because he’s a fucking animal. Right. And he rose from the dead in the twelfth round of their fight where it looked like Deontay had knocked him out cold.
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Deontay even went like that at the end of it. Oh my god. He hit him with a right hand and then a left hook as he was going down. And he went flat out on his back, and Tyson Fury rose like the Undertaker and got right back and won the rest of the round. But that’s just because he’s he’s a that’s another very, very rare human being, Tyson Fury, just an animal. Jesus.
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Just
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an animal. One of the greatest boxers of all time and one of the greatest heavyweights without a doubt
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of all time. When you get hit like that, there’s gotta be an enormous physical pain. Duh. But then there also is ai, don’t you get scared then after a big hit?
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Well, you get super confused. You
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get confused.
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Because I would get scared. You gotta kinda shake off the cobwebs. Your ears are ringing. Yeah. Your legs don’t work right anymore. When you meh knocked down I only got TKO’d once in a kickboxing ai. K. And ironically, it didn’t hurt. Okay. The punch that hit me just twisted my jaw.
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He hit me with a left hook, and my legs just gave out, like, weep, like, gone. It’s the craziest feeling. It’s ai it’s it’s not like you got hurt. It’s like your legs just shut off.
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Right.
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Like, he he clipped me with a left hook that I didn’t see in an exchange. And when you get hit on the jaw, something happens in the jaw, and I don’t know what it is with the nerves behind your neck, but it just shuts everything off.
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Right.
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And you’re conscious, which is weird. Like, so it was completely conscious, but my ai, like, disconnected and went down, but they they reconnected right away. And I got up, and I was like, oh, no. I’m in trouble. Like, they weren’t working good. Like, everything wasn’t working good. And then I got dropped again.
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He hit me with an uppercut and dropped me, and then the referee stopped the fight. But,
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Oh, shit.
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Totally conscious the whole time. But the feeling that you get when you get hit real hard is real weird. It’s ai nothing works right anymore. Yeah. And you gotta get on your bike and try to move around and get everything working again, and it might take thirty seconds before
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thirty seconds when he’s also swarmed trained to kill you.
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Now in the UFC, it’s way more accurate because when you get knocked down, they climb on top of you Right. Beat your fucking brains in ram strangle
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you.
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Right. Which is really what’s supposed to happen. Right. The whole thing of letting someone get up, what you’re really doing is giving them a chance to get more damage.
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That’s true.
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Because they can recover, but not all the way, you know, sometimes. Right. Right. Sometimes a guy gets rocked early in a fight, and you can tell for the whole rest of the ai, they’re still fucked up. And they’re they’re very defensive.
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So it’s safer in your opinion the way UFC does it, where if you start wobbling, I’m immediately on you trying to kill you. And then it’s ai as opposed to boxing where they would get you up and you ai
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I don’t think either one is safe. Right. I think it’s an unsafe sport. It’s as safe as we can make it.
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Right.
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We have laws when you can hit someone, you can hit them in the back of the head. There’s Yep. But it’s not safe. Yeah. It’s a very dangerous, very scary sport. Yep. But I think, realistically, when someone gets hurt and someone finishes them off on the ground, that’s probably less damage than they would have taken if you gave them a standing eight count
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Yeah.
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Dust their gloves off, made them move forward, and let them go back again and get really molly walloped. You know? Because a lot of times, those arya where the real bad chaos come from is when a guy’s hurt and then he stands up and
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The only thing I can even closely compare this to is being in a car accident.
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Yeah. And I Let me show you what one of the greatest examples of that. Alex Pereira, who was, a two division glory world champion. Pull up Alex Pereira, KO’s Jason Wilness. So he he’s ai the most destructive kickboxer in the history of the sport. Okay. And he went over to the UFC, became a two division UFC champion, just lost his title last weekend in a really close ai. Great fight.
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But he hits this guy with a head kick and drops him. And you can tell this guy’s fucked. Right. But they give him the standing eight because he’s in kickboxing, not in MMA.
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Okay.
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They give him the standing eight count, dust his gloves off. You okay? Come forward. And then he gets hit with a flying knee on the chin Uh-huh. And just sent into the shadow realm.
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Right.
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And it didn’t didn’t need to happen this way. And this is what happens when you take a guy who’s, like, really rocked and ai fucked. So watch this. So he catches him with a head kick. So he’s, by the way, Jason Willis had beaten him twice before, so he drops him with the left hand. K.
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Is this the first fight?
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Yeah. Ai don’t know.
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Or is this the the head kick? I don’t know. Whole fight. I don’t know if this is the one. I think this is the one when they went back and forth. I don’t think this is the one where he KOs him. I think this is the one where he drops him.
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ai. Maybe. I guess that’s later.
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Yeah. Try to find the later one. Oh, this is it. This is the one because I ai tell by his haircut. So, Pereira at this time was the champion, and he was getting revenge on Willness who had beaten him before and stopped him with low kicks in one of their fights. So he head kicks him. Boom. Boom. So right now Shit. He’s fucked. No. No. MMA, he would follow-up, beat him a couple ai, that’ll be it.
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Over it.
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But Willness is ai, they’re giving him a chance to clear your head.
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Your coach to, like, get up immediately, show that you’re okay. Right.
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Yeah. And he’s, like, in a cold blood. Then watch this. Boom.
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Ai god. That’s the ai
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of shit that happens when you’re really already fucked. So he can hit you with this flying scissor knee right on the chin. The fuck
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is that too?
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He’s the most ferocious ai artist literally in the history of speak.
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Look at this on the chin. Yeah. And that’s forget that’s, like, legal and everything.
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Oh, yeah. It’s encouraged. It’s not just legal. That’s celebrated. That’s one of the greatest techniques in the history of the sport. And Alex Pereira, that’s how he won his, first UFC fight. He won with that. Ai wanna see another nasty one? Pull up, Pereira Kaos Ai.
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You wanna see another nasty one?
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This is so this is Pereira’s first entrance into the UFC, and, I’m a giant fan of kickboxing. So I watch Muay Thai. I watch Dutch kickboxing. I watch glory. I watch everything I can about kickboxing, and I knew this guy was really special. So I was completely hyping him up in the in this first UFC fight.
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I’m like, just watch. Yeah. And he he came through in flying colors, and he came through with that flying knee. And it’s it’s so nuts the amount of power this guy can generate and the with punches and with kicks, but with a flying knee, you have so much torque. You’re literally throwing your body weight up into the air.
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So how
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do you avoid a flying knee? Just step out
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of the way. It’s in the second round, Jamie. So it’s right after this. Like, right at the beginning of the second round. Yeah. So they start the second round, and he’s like, fuck this dude. I’m just gonna catch him coming in and flat ai him. This is bruising. Watch this. I mean, this is nutty. See if the, production truck can isolate that.
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Here it is.
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But it’s a nasty well on his left cheek.
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Oh. Down on a session I was speaking to with all the clinch and the grab
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Oh my god. Oh god. That is so fast.
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He’s such a fucking animal. He’s such a monster, dude. So how much do you even
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how you can’t block that. You just try to get you
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that way. Get the fuck out of the way of that. You don’t wanna block that because if you’re well, you you certainly should block it rather than take it on the chin. But once he’s in the air like that, if that catches your arya, if you break your forearm, I mean, the amount of power that’s involved in that particular technique is fucking extraordinary because it’s a natural move movement of your hips.
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Flick.
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It’s a thing that you do your whole ai, running and jumping. Yeah. You’re doing so you can explode very quickly. And you’re hitting someone with your knee, which is the most immobile part. Yes. Like, if you wanna hit someone with a joint, it’s elbows and knees, but the knee’s preferable.
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But aren’t you putting yourself in a vulnerable position to throw a flying knee?
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Yeah. You gotta wait till a guy’s fucked. Right. Okay. And that’s what he does. He waits till you’re fucked.
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Because if because you are jumping in the air and exposing yourself. So what I would do is I would I would move out of the way, Joe, and then I would pop him Sai would pop him.
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But some guys are just really like Jon Jones, when he won the light heavyweight title, the one of the craziest things that Jon did, he’s 22 years old, and he’s fighting Mauricio Shogun Hua, who is a legend. He was a light heavyweight champion. He was a legend of this organization called Pride in Japan, where they sold out, like, 90,000 seat arenas.
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I mean, he’s a, like, a real legend of the speak, and John opens with a flying knee. Opens. First move, flying knee, catches him, and then just beats the shit out of him and wins the title and becomes the youngest ever UFC champion.
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That’s a great name.
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That’s a fly thing. Beginning of the fight. Now, Shogun is, like I said Yeah. He’s a fucking legend and a knockout artist. And John starts right away. Boom. Bang. Flying knee to open up the ai. Red trunks for Joel. And just put on a clinic. Put on a clinic and won the title at 22 years of age.
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That’s a ballsy move to start with that.
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Ballsy motherfucker?
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Yeah. That’s a big swing right out of the gate. Yeah. The flying move.
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Crazy move. But some guys can pull it off, and it helps being tall. Like, Alex is very tall. Yeah. John’s tall, so it’s it’s hard to hit their chin. But, you know, it doesn’t always work. Like, sometimes guys do it, and they get knocked out cold.
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How does your fucking kneecap not break too?
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It doesn’t. No. Your kneecap versus chin. I’ll take kneecap all day long. Alright. Especially when your knees are bent and you’re hitting them with this part right here. You can hit that pretty hard on things. You’d be surprised.
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I have so much respect for these athletes, and I’m also I can’t be far enough away from it. Just go wrong. I wanna
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show you the flying knee go wrong. Pull up, Fedor Emiliannenko versus, oh, Andrei Orlovsky. I’m sorry.
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You wanna see a flying knee
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go wrong? Andrei Orlovsky, Fedor Emelianenko. So this is Andrei Orlovsky was actually winning this ai, and he actually was kinda tuning Fedor up, and he was hitting him with some big shah. And he got a little crazy. And he leaped in with a flying knee and got flat lined.
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Well, that’s what I’m that’s This
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is what you would do.
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That’s what I was thinking. This is what I would do. No. But I was thinking this is a vulnerable position. You don’t wanna
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be in the air. True. Sai he’s fighting the guy, with the bald head. That’s Fedor Miyanjko, who’s a legend. So watch Arlovski. He catches him with a kick. He’s feeling cocky. He tries to fly in a boom.
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Oh, shit.
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Flatlined. But he’s fighting in Fedor. That’s literally Okay. The greatest heavyweight of all time. It’s not one of the greatest. Like, there’s the argument that he’s the greatest. So he catches him on the chin as he’s leaping in, ai, perfect punch.
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So the guy with the beard thought
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He thought he was vulnerable. Yeah. He was beating his ass a little bit.
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And and he made a mistake.
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And he tried to come in cocky with a flying knee, and he got clipped on the jaw.
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And as soon as he gets hit, you just see the his flying knee knee just drop.
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Also, you gotta think where Fedor threw that punch because Fedor knew he was going in the air. This is, like, the reads this guy’s able to get. Yeah. He sees Arlovski make a motion, like, bend at the knees.
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Here we go.
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Like, he’s gonna launch himself. Sai if you look at where he punches him, he punches him so high up in the air. So he knew where his head was gonna be. Look at that. Look how high he’s see it? He’s ducked down, and Horlowski’s way up in the air, and he catches him perfectly on the chin. Yep.
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Like, that is just an understanding of positioning and where a guy’s gonna be and where what is the timing of your punches?
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This is reminding me of the way Roger Federer would notice his opponent with quarter of an inch open up his grip on the run, and Roger would know forehand ai is coming. I’ll sneak in and pop. And now it’s meh different sport, obviously. Really? But it’s reading Just the grip. Ai.
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Dude, if you just, typically, he does it like this, and this time, he’s doing it time boom. They go up. Wow. What’s what’s so different about tennis, obviously, is then you just volleyball for a winner. It’s 15 love.
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You don’t get head kick.
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You don’t get fucking knocked out. I mean, this is ai this this shit fascinates meh. But, I don’t know.
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The consequences are so great The consequences. That people look at it as a barbaric horrific thing Yeah. Which is valid. Sai understand why pacifists and people who are very peaceful don’t sana have anything to do with violence. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. But what it is to me is the ultimate problem solving. Yeah. It’s it’s problem solving. Yeah.
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You have a person in front of you that is doing all these things to try to throw you off. They’re fainting you. They’re moving. They’re switching stances. Yeah.
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They’re shooting in for takedowns that they don’t want so they can hit catch you with a punch on the way in. There’s so many variables you have to think about. So it’s just ai high level problem solving with dire physical consequences.
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Yeah. I love sport because it it teaches life lessons with very low stakes. But in this That’s high. Sports, there’s high stakes.
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Yeah.
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And that’s very interesting for me because I would much rather my kid play soccer or tennis, learn some important lessons with low stakes. But this type of thing, that is serious stakes, man.
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It is serious stakes. I think kids, especially boys, should all learn how to fight so that they don’t ever fight. That’s what I ai.
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I, as a 45 year old grown man, I wish I would have learned how to fight. Yeah. And I think it’s probably not too late.
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It’s not too late. I know
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you got a gym over here. Yeah.
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I was telling you, you can get into jiu jitsu. You’d be great at it. You have long limbs, you’re athletic.
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Sai that’s that’s what Ai should do. Are huge.
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In jiu jitsu.
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Jiu jitsu because there’s certain things that you’ll be able to catch that other people can’t catch with shorter limbs ai a darce choke. So a darce choke is so sai if you come to grab me and you have your head here and your arm wraps around me like this
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Mhmm.
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I can shove my arm under like this, go off the side of your neck and clamp it like this, and now I’ve got you in a wicked choke. It’s
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called a
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shah choke.
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The darce choke.
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You will be way better at that than me because you have an extra six inches that you could seal this thing up. Okay. So your your hand will go further than mine. You’ll be able to grab it deeper.
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Dude, I’m writing down Darce choke. Yeah. And what I’ll do to guide on my YouTube is I’ll watch some Darce jokes Yes. And I
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And then you do it the other way, it’s an anaconda. So you either go armpit this way, it’s a Darce, or you go head this way, armpit that way, it’s an anaconda. And with the anaconda, you roll like an anaconda sana you squeeze them deeper into the choke.
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And I just squeeze until the referee says it’s over.
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And your long legs, you could wrap around their body to secure them in place. You could grab a hold of one of their legs so they can’t turn away from you. You could turn into them and fucking keep the squeeze on.
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And the Dude, you’d be wicked at it. And in a competition, that happens until the ref calls it or,
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like, ai person taps out most
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of the time. They tap out.
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Most of the time, you tap out. Because you they know it’s over. You know it’s over. You if you’re a psycho, you go to sleep. And there are a lot of psychos just so people choke them unconscious. That happens all the time. Guys just sai, fuck it. I’m gonna get choked unconscious, and they just go out.
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And then the referee The
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referee stops you. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. But sometimes the referees miss it. And sometimes someone’s out for, like, seconds fuck. While someone’s still fucking squeezing the shit out of their neck. And then the referee finally figures it out versus, like like, in the shadow realm.
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I do absolutely love that in the in these sports, there’s this extreme violence, high stakes, but then also a simple tap Yes. Is a mutual agreement.
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A %.
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That’s fucking awesome.
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And if you don’t stop when someone taps, you will get kicked out of the sport. Yeah. There’s a guy named Usimar Paul Harris, who who is one of the scariest motherfuckers to ever fight because he was a leg lock specialist.
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Okay. And
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what he would do is rip your knees apart. And he wouldn’t he wouldn’t let go when you tapped. And he got kicked out of the UFC for it. Wow. Because he did it to so many people. Yeah. He was known for not letting go.
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Right.
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And he would these guys would be screaming in agony and slapping and tapping.
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Saying I’m out.
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And he would be still twisting, and he was built like a human pit bull. Right. He was, like, five seven, a hundred and eighty five pounds of solid muscle, and it would just You just dive on your legs and roll into these positions and rip your knees apart. Like, with a heel hook, a heel hook is so terrible because your knee has a lot of strength going forward and backwards, but it has almost none going ai to side.
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So they isolate the top of it with their legs. They wrap the heel into the crook of their elbow, and then they wrench that motherfucker apart. It’s literally twisting your knee apart, and it’s terrifying.
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Oh my god.
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And he cripples people. Like, you’re fucked. He’ll tear your ACL, your MCL, your meniscus. You’re gonna go a whole year before you can fight again. You’re gonna have to get surgery to reconstruct your knee, and then your knee’s never gonna be the same because your meniscus is shot now.
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And maybe some of your cartilage. So this is him.
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I I don’t know. I don’t know. Oh, I don’t know.
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So now This is this is a fight that he had against David Saloni, and this is fucked because they stop the motion, and they put him back into the same position. And when they put him back into the same position, he he doesn’t let go. So he he holds on to the heel hook and just wrenches the fucking shit out. Like this right here. He let go there.
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He let go there because I think they were, like, chastising him to make sure like, look at that. Look at what he does.
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I I I don’t wanna look real.
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And look at the build on this guy. Paul Harras was a fucking specimen.
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And he’s trying to turn the knee sideways.
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He’s ripping this shit apart right here, man. He’s pulling it backwards. It’s backwards and at a slight angle. I mean, this is horrific. And look at the build on Pau Harris. Imagine the fucking force, the size of this guy’s legs, the size of his torso, and perfect technique.
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And he’s just ripping his fucking knee apart. That’s a nasty knee bar right there. That’s so horrible to watch. But in, in MMA, he wound up getting kicked out of the UFC because, I think it was Mike Pierce. See if you can find the Mike Pierce fight.
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It might not have been Pierce at I I love those fights.
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Ai love that the tap Generally
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speaking Yeah. It does.
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Of course.
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In this case, the Mike Pierce one, he’s screaming and tapping, and Paul Herrera is Terrible. Still ripping it apart.
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I mean, then my one of my favorite parts of tennis is how they’ll battle for five and a half hours, and then they calmly walk So here it is. Look. He’s tapping.
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He’s watch. So he gets it. He’s tearing he’s tapping, and he won’t let go. Still, when the referee’s on him, he still yanked on it. So those x that extra second Yeah.
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That’s the big
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rip your shit apart. So he taps immediately. See? None of this has to happen. Right. He was tapping immediately.
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I feel like the ref was on that.
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I know, but it’s like Paul Harrison doesn’t give a fuck. Yeah. He’s out for blood. I mean, he had, like, a crazy childhood. He grew up on a farm with, like, no food. Like, it’s really like, he’s he’s Right. Feral. Yeah. He’s feral. Which And he’s super technical.
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Which would serve you. I’m sure.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, until you get kicked out of the speak, you know, on
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top of it. It’s incredibly ai, but also systematic in its understanding of the human body.
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Oh, yeah.
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We’re gonna know that the knee doesn’t go this way. No. It’s really, really tough. Sports are like this, actually.
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Yeah. I think all sports at the highest levels. They have to be like that. Because you only get so far with genetics and so far with vatsal speed and endurance. Yeah. There’s certain aspects of it that require a careful considered study.
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And wouldn’t you if you know your opponent is a guy that likes to do the the the the wouldn’t you then in your training work on Yes. Defending that and also, like, making sure your knee can withstand more of that than normal?
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You know, you’re not gonna be able
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to do that. There’s only so much special knee knee pill you can take.
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You gotta tap when you get into those positions, and then you gotta make sure that you don’t get into those positions, which is the most important thing.
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The tapping must be so humbling as a fighter because you’ve trained so hard. You wanna win so badly, and yet you have to do this thing. You have to press the eject button.
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Well, hopefully, you will tap because guys haven’t tapped and they’ve gotten their arms broken in half. Right. And I’ve seen quite a few of those, including legends ai Frank Meh, one ai.
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He Too much pride, you mean to tap?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because he fought, Antonio Noguera, who was, another legend, who was former heavyweight champion of ai, and he caught him in a kimura and snapped his upper arm. And we watched his arm crack and then go limp, and you could see, like, where it was cracked up here.
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Like, oh,
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it was horrific.
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That’s terrible. So hard to watch. When you’re commentating, are you present moment completely? Or Yeah. Yeah. Like %.
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You’re just
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you you’re not you’re not thinking, like, it’s not like these baseball commentators were, like, I got a story I’ll tell later in this No.
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No. Because you you it is that. Yeah. Great. No. Great. Especially not while the actual fight is going on. The actual fight is life and death, you know. You you have to be locked in. But Daniel Cormier, ai, co so there’s, like, two color commentators, me and Daniel Cormier and this John Annick who’s the play by play guy.
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Me and Daniel fuck around a lot. We we joke around a lot about stuff during the because he’s, like, ai fun guy. Yeah. But when things are serious, we’re serious. Yeah. You you have to be, like, you know, this is, like, you’re representing these people’s hard work.
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You’re trying to, like, put words
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to I love that. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. You have to be very serious about it.
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Because the stakes are so ai, and it’s wild, though, that people might know you if they’re just being introduced to you as the commentator for that and maybe don’t know the other stuff. And
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Well, it’s confusing for sure.
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But it’s also, ai, it’s one of the things that I’m most, impressed with by what you do is as someone that has this passion for tennis, I’m like, it’s so cool how you dive into a completely different world.
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Yeah. And Ai just can’t apologize for it. You can’t wonder what other people think about it. Right. You just have to be yourself. Right. And I grew up a martial artist. Vatsal arts is, an enormous part of my life. Yeah. It’s sai enormous part of, like, how I became who I am. Yeah.
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So for me, like, commentating on martial arts is normal.
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You’re not a comedian who then No. Switched over to martial arts because it served you. It’s it’s your foundation of who you arya, and you also happen to be a comedian and podcast host.
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Yeah. But Ai not interested in being funny. Yeah. You know, I’m just trying to do that job. Like, I’ve done commentary on professional pool too. Woah. And as I play pool Yeah. Like, and Yeah. I play pretty good. Yeah. So I I really understand with the game, and I know what’s going on.
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So I’ve done commentary on that too. What’s the same thing?
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What’s your favorite pool movie, Billy Joel?
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The Hustler.
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The Hustler.
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Okay. The only answer to that question is The Hustler.
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I thought The Color of Money had a had a run.
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It’s okay.
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That’s okay. Alright.
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Ai Color of Money is good. Yeah. It’s a good tournament movie. It’s a good move. But it’s you know, there’s some things in it. And because Paul Newman was in it, you know, it kinda gave it some validity. Yeah. Because it was the same Walter Tevis novel as The Hustler,
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The Color of Money.
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It was it
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was very different. The book was very different though.
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Okay.
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But, yeah, The Color of Money was great because it got a lot of people playing pool again. But The Hustler is just an amazing film.
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Yeah.
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Like, the the actual film itself is amazing. It’s ai, Piper Laurie is incredible in it. It’s it’s just it’s George c Scott is in it. Jackie Gleason plays Minnesota Fats, and he’s who’s by by the way, Jackie Gleason was a real pool player. He’s probably the only guy that’s ever played a pool player in a movie that really could play.
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My brother once got a book for Christmas called, How to Hustle Your Friends a Pool. And it was it was in our it was in our basement. We had a pool table, but I just it was one of those things, same, that I worked at it. I can never get it right. And, eventually, the other things came more natural to me, but it is fun.
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Pool is something that if you really wanna play right, you have to get coached.
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Okay.
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Yeah. It’s just like tennis. I’m sure. It’s like there you can develop some bad habits and bad fundamentals that you’ll never you’re never gonna pass a certain level of play. Meh. You know? But I think it’s like everything. I think it’s like chess. It’s like tennis.
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It’s like, you know, Schultz was in here the other day, and he’s into the sport paddle. Have you have you seen paddle?
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Is this p a d e l? Yes. Padel? Yeah.
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This is the Padel?
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Well, I’ve heard Padel.
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It depends on how you how pretentious she wanna be.
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Perfect. Of course.
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Or if
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you’re Spanish.
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Or if you’re Spanish. Oh, did they say Padel?
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That’s where it’s from. Yeah.
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Oh, well, why why don’t we call it Padel then?
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Because Fultz said that’s what they said.
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Yeah. He said paddle. Like, he said, fucking like a New Yorker.
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Yeah. So, you know, tennis has had this this great historical run on elite racket sports, and then pickleball has been this counter response to tennis. Silly ball, loud noise, don’t really have to move much, and pickleball has been taking off. I don’t know if you’ve played or if if you’ve seen it.
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Rock plays every day.
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Okay. Perfect. That’s that’s Meh
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up at eight in the morning, he plays pickleball
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with a strainer. That is exactly my point. Okay? I was in Scottsdale, Arizona recently. I did an hour of pickleball. The community there had music going, cracking beers. Costa, come over, play with us. Very Very fun. Very fun. I then go over to the other side and play tennis, which is my speak.
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And no joke, this older couple sai, you’re talking too loudly on the courts. Right? It’s this beautiful dichotomy of these two sports. I ai I don’t know if pickleball’s a sport. But Padell comes along and seems to be this middle ground. Yeah.
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What I don’t like about pickleball is you get to the what they call the kitchen line, and you can’t move anymore. You’re frozen. You so you just stand there frozen. You just you knock the ball around. I like a sport. I want 360 degree movement.
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I don’t wanna be I don’t want the I don’t want the dimensions of the court to restrict my movement or the rules of the game. Peddle seems to be both. It’s tennis, but it’s in this box, and they sometimes run outside of the box.
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Yeah. They run outside ai box.
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Insane. And I’ve actually never played, but the points never end because you’re on this this I I just see people running their ACO. Outside the box.
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I know. That’s nuts. That is nuts.
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So it almost seems gimmicky to me. That’s funny that Andrew plays, but I would like to play this. And look ai you know, also, one of the best things that happened for racket sports is HDTV, dude. When you used to you know, when you were a kid watching 10 watching Jimmy Connors, John Ai, you never even see the fucking ball.
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Right. Right.
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It’s the same tyler as the court. Right. And this shit now is unbelievable to watch.
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Yeah. You ai how fast it’s done with hockey where they ai love that shit. That’s a game changer. Now Ai know what’s going on.
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At first, people made fun of it. And I was like, I need Yeah. And in hockey with the substitutions on the fly, I never know who who the fuck’s on the ice. Yeah. I love that though. I love that they do that. That’s so cool.
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I’ve been watching, professional lacrosse lately. Once I realized they could beat the fuck out of each other. I didn’t know that they could fight like they do it on.
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I don’t know ai they could fight.
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They fight and they wear shoes, which is crazy. Because now you’re bare knuckle boxing in the middle of a game.
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What does the shoes have to do with it? What do you mean? They meh grip. Oh, ai mean, like like a clean shah. Right.
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Well, the difference between running around on ice skates, you’re sliding around. The fighting is like yeah. They’re fighting, but they’re kinda compromised because they can’t really, ai, you know, good skaters can kinda hold it’s not ai having grip with your shoes and being able to really you could really hurt people.
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Yeah.
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Because they’re beating the shit out of each other. I’m like, wow.
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Lacrosse lacrosse always kinda had the, like, douchey rich kid speak, but it is incredibly it’s yeah. But this this Stop
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doing this in the nineties.
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Yeah. I was gonna say
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they stopped doing this. I don’t want to talk to you about this. I’m
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01:10:34
ai favorite my favorite Unless they put a circle around it. It float when it flies around.
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It got a lot of pushback, but I always They
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don’t do it. Yeah. Sorry. I was
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double checking.
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I don’t think they do.
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Ai shah it sometimes when I ai, but
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That’s funny. I always avoided winter sports when I was a kid. I didn’t learn how to ski until I was in my forties, and I never learned how to ice skate because, I was fighting all the time. So I didn’t wanna do anything that would hurt myself doing. Right. So I would like, and everybody was ai, we’re gonna go skiing. I was like, uh-uh. Yeah.
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Get the fuck out of here. Like, I need these. This is it was ai super important. Yeah.
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This got everybody excited though a few weeks ago though. What do they do? Sai Canada fight or a game. There’s nine fights and or three fights.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nine
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seconds. They just start squaring off.
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Yeah. Why are we upset at Canada? This is stupid. Is this over tariffs? Yes. A %. They booed us over tariffs.
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They’re also trying to I mean, it worked. They got a ton of attention. So everyone was
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Who’s red and who’s blue?
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Well, Canada’s red.
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There you go. Who’s winning this exchange?
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Blue is America.
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One dude keeps his helmet on. That’s ridiculous. That helmet’s a problem.
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Ai do love when you hear their microphones during a fight and they fight and then they go, like, you ready to be done? Yeah. I’m ready to be done. I love that.
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I I I was at
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the comic strip in Edmonton Years ago when Canada played US in the gold medal game. Someone sent me the country’s water usage during that game. And at every period end, the water usage would go up because everyone went would go to the bathroom. Right. And it was like the whole fucking country went to the bathroom at the same time. And Canada sana I it was in overtime. I meh the only American there.
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But, man, do they love a good winter sport up there.
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We gotta become friends with Canada again. We have to, like Yeah.
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You know I’m down. This is so ridiculous.
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I can’t believe that there’s, like, anti American and anti Canadian sentiment going on. It’s sai dumbest prank ai.
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There it is. That’s nuts.
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Look at the water consumption.
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Is there
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That’s crazy. Ai? I love
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on the past as well. If I say something, I gotta be ready for you guys to fact check my ass.
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Jamie’s ready.
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Is there anti Canadian sentiment?
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Yeah. There’s a lot of idiots that now think that they’re our fucking enemy. Okay. That why are we subsidizing Canada? Right. Well, how come they don’t have their own military? Well, they don’t. So let’s just, like, deal with it as it is.
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You know, Trudeau is out. Right? He’s already leaving.
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Ai and I feel like They got a new guy who’s Maybe this is best. Ai thing.
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But
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They got a new party. A 50 people voted. Now, they have a new
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Oh, shit.
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New guy running the country. But they I their whole election system is so different. They don’t have, like, a specific time when they have elections and so
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They can call an election and Sai think it happens within three weeks.
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Oh, shit. The whole thing
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is so crazy. And so Ai don’t know what’s happening with their politics, but I just want America and Canada to get along. I think it’s ridiculous.
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Yeah. It’s a good as someone who’s from Ann Arbor, Michigan, you know, meh Ai
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I don’t really think they should be our fifty first state. Ai I said it. That he said it? He’s on record. It’ll be fun if it happened. It would be fun. I think Greenland’s more accessible. Yeah. You could probably buy that. Yeah. If you want a fifty first state, it’s Greenland.
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Plus, if global warming is real because of all the digging and oil and all that shit, you know, be good to have a cold spot to eventually warm up.
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I I just read this crazy book called Power Metals by Vince Ai, possibly. We had him on the show, Daily Show. And it’s all about, like, meh and metals and what we need for our batteries and cobalt mining in Africa. And I went down all this YouTube shit with, like
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Oh, yeah.
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The child, you know, labor and all. But very I was very ignorant to how much we need and use metals. Oh, yeah. Nickel, copper, you know, wild batteries, EVs, everything. And so then when the news came out that Trump wanted Greenland, I was like, oh, this is starting to make more sense to me now.
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There’s a lot of stuff up there. There’s a lot of also a lot of stuff in the ai. If they can mine asteroids, if they can successfully figure out how to mine asteroids, they can get a lot of precious minerals.
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Let’s fucking do that. Yeah.
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Well There’s asteroids. That’s a few decades away, but they’ll figure it out eventually. They’ve they’ve been able to get samples from asteroids and they, they know, like, what the composites are and, you know, there’s asteroids out there that are filled with trillions of dollars in minerals.
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That is fucking nuts. I know. It’s nuts. Yeah. And they can figure it out. They will. They’ll they’ll eventually figure it out. But, I had Siddharth Sana on Okay.
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Who has done, he’s done some pretty brilliant and brave investigative work on the cobalt mines. And, you know, he took video
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I’ll have to check that.
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What they call artisanal ai. And it’s essentially Yes. Slaves digging this stuff out of the ground with their babies on their back. This is from Sadar’s book. Yeah. I mean, this is fucking crazy. And they’re digging the cobalt out of the ground with, like, literally with sticks. Everybody’s breathing it in. It’s all toxic.
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These women have babies on their back.
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Yeah.
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The babies are breathing it in.
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And then there’s these pools, right, that you that you put the water, and it’s toxic water, and the pools are different colors. And with the we don’t know where this goes and the water seeps in. And is this also Ai can get the new iPhone 14 sai or whatever the fuck it is?
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A %. That’s exactly what it is. And It’s terrible. It’s the only way we’re getting that stuff.
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Right.
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That’s most of the cobalts coming construction of the phone itself and you see those factories, those Foxconn factories where they have nets around them to keep people from jumping off the roofs. And you realize these people are working in these horrific conditions sai that you can get an iPhone that cost $13.99 Yeah.
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Instead of $15.99 or whatever the fuck it would be if it was made in America with people paid a working wage and health care and
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Meh.
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All the stuff that you’re supposed to get if you’re gonna be working. So ai Especially with a company like Apple that’s worth more than any corporation ever. Like, Apple’s Right. Insanely profitable. So we
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we did this piece sai The Daily Show once about the sugar cane, agriculture in the Vatsal Florida. They over fertilize it. It gets makes more sugar faster. All of the fertilization goes down to Lake Okeechobee, then goes out to the oceans where the algae blooms, the manatees die, da da da.
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And I’m just going I think most people would pay an extra 25¢ a year for this not to happen to spend more on sugar. Why Yeah. Why are we doing this? Ai I would pay more to have my iPhone be made in America by American hands?
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Yeah. We’ve talked about that. But the problem is the infrastructure that’s required to be able to build phones here is a decade away.
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Right.
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It takes a long time to build the kind of factories that can have, like, the tolerances of these chips and Right. They’ve been doing it in China forever. So it most of
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fucking wild. I mean, I was I I was loading my kids in the car, put my phone on top of my car because I didn’t have an extra hand, forget it’s there, Driving through Pennsylvania. We Yeah. And it’s gone. I hear it’s pop pop pop all over the highway. It’s bouncing. I stop.
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I finally find my phone in the woods, and 911 is on the phone. Woah. We we ai that there was a crash. Are you okay doing
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01:17:35
Holy shit.
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Like, how the fuck what? Holy shit. That that’s in this thing?
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01:17:39
Yeah. That’s pretty wild.
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01:17:40
It’s wild.
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01:17:41
It’s also watching everything you do and listening to all your True. Conversations and recommending Google searches. Why Why don’t you buy this, Michael? Hey, Michael. Maybe you’d be interested in buying this. It seems like you were interested. But we’re talking about vacation homes in Hawaii. Look, Michael.
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01:17:57
What about when you’ve already bought it? That always is weird. Yeah.
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It’s weird.
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When it’s like feeding me In the algorithm. Ai meh the algorithm.
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Yeah. You get sucked into the algorithm. You know, it’s, it’s, an interesting world that we live in with all that stuff. Because it’s ai you’re constantly getting inundated. That’s one of the things that I really enjoy about podcast. It’s the one time for three hours a day where I don’t look at my phone. Yeah.
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I don’t have any text coming in. It’s on do not disturb. I don’t care.
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01:18:23
I mean, that could arguably be why maybe you have this supernatural memory and brainpower because you, more than anybody probably in the world, maybe Ai States, are actually away from this for four hours just talking. That could be interesting. That’s Did I just crack something?
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That’s something there meh be something to that, but I think it’s just the sheer volume of people that I’ve talked to. Yeah. So you’re getting information But you’re
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retaining a lot of that.
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I’ve always been good at that for some reason. You know?
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01:18:51
I mean, you just referenced the guest you had this previous book. Yeah. Are you retaining are you you doing a trick or anything to retain that? No. You’re just locked in and engaged?
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Yeah. Yeah. Ai buy I take supplements from memory too, though. Yep. And I take Alpha Brain, which is, ai called a nootropic.
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01:19:09
I saw it
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out there.
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You can grab something.
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I didn’t take I didn’t Sai didn’t wanna be too
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No. Get in there. Too sharp for the pod. Thing that vending machine, you get free alpha brain. You just press the button. It you’d have to How many
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01:19:20
pods do you get free alpha brain on? That’s pretty sick.
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01:19:22
Anyone you want. Yeah. Let’s go. But that stuff’s legit. It really works. And it really we that was ram my company on it. And when we first made it, a lot of people were saying, oh, this is snake oil. This is bullshit. Mhmm. I had already had experience with nootropics because, there’s a company called NeuroOne, and, Bill Romanowski, the football player Mhmm.
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Developed it because he was having memory problems after all the, you know, hits. And, I was on a radio show in San Francisco, and one of the guys was working out with Bill Romanowski, and he started taking this Neuro One. He’s like, dude, it’s like, I’m so much more focused. It’s really great. I’m like, okay. I’m gonna try this. And I was like, oh, this is legit.
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Like, I feel like, my mind feels clearer. Like, I I feel like I have more thought energy, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah.
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So then we arya experimenting with different ones and, there’s a bunch I like. One of them is, this company, Neuro. These are meh, Neuro Mints, but they make Neuro gum, which I’m a big fan of. I chew it all the time. It’s gum that has, like, a little bit of caffeine, a little bit of theanine in it.
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What’s the the goal? Just to kinda keep the brain energy high?
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Yes. Yeah. You want to provide your brain with the nutrients your brain needs to produce, human neurotransmitters.
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Alright. I’m gonna take this. Do you maybe maybe we’ll do, like, a before or after?
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That, you know, is minor. I usually take two Okay. When I take the mints. But they’re legit. This is so this is one. NeuroGum’s another one. True Brain is another one that I’ve tried. It’s really good. It’s like little packets you drink.
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Ai found I just assumed it was, like, kids and age and getting older that I’ll lose my train of thought more often than I ever have before. Oh, yeah. And I yeah. I hate it.
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Writing a joke.
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It’s not fun. And and everything I read says, like, keep exercising, get blood flow in your body. This may be sauna health.
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Sleep sleep. Big one.
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Speak sleep. Isn’t it crazy how much an athlete the best athletes treat sleep?
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, Pete’s like that. He used to travel with duct tape. So when he meh to the hotel, he would tape the curtain to the window sai no excess light would get in because he wanted, like, full darkness
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float tank situation. Shah.
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And I’m like, you know, at that level, when you’re playing for one in the world, like, all that little stuff. Yep. And that’s wild. Meanwhile, you’re in my house. I lay down. We shut off the lights. Sonos has a light. The Sai Fi thing has a light. Mhmm.
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01:21:44
The clock has there’s so much extra excess light all around.
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Yeah. It’s not good.
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Maybe that’s why I can’t remember the joke I’m about to tell.
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Sleep is a big problem. Yeah. You know, you really need to get a solid seven, eight hours of sleep every ai. And if you don’t, you’re gonna feel it. One of the best supplements for mitigating the effects of sleep deprivation is actually creatine. Ai. Creatine is actually
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My buddy just start taking it. I don’t I don’t know.
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I take it every day.
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I took it in college, the strength team coach made me take it and it bothered my stomach.
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Well, there’s different forms of creatine. I take it in gummy form, which doesn’t seem to bother me at all. I’ve had people that take it ai liquid. They pour it into water and they get diarrhea. I haven’t had that happen, but it’s also ai there’s different kinds of creatine. Yep.
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A really good creatine, ai, you want a reputable company that makes creatine monohydrate. And then there’s another thing called HMB that people mix with creatine. But creatine ai being, a muscle builder, because it really does enhance your recovery and helps you build muscle, it also is, a nootropic. It also helps brain function.
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Is it which makes sense, because if your body works better, your brain works better. Yeah. You know, and it it makes you retain more water. You can’t you have more water in your body, which is obviously also a good thing. Yep. And especially for an athlete, and especially for someone who wants to think.
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Like, one of the worst ways to think is if you’re dehydrated. If you’re dehydrated and tired, like, you’re fucked. You’re working on, like, 50% brain capacity.
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Well, you I love watching sports. You know, the end, you see these silly mistakes always.
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Mhmm.
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Why why would they do that? That’s you know, ai the ball go through his legs? Why did he choose to serve to that side? Why did he throw the fastball down the middle? Because they’re fucking dehydrated and tired, and it’s crazy how that affects brain function.
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Oh,
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shit. Ai I love the couch fan. Oh my god. Why did he throw that?
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It’s like With a beer in your hand. Dude, you’re literally belly. You’re literally drinking a beer. This guy a pussy.
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This guy’s a pussy.
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If I was getting that money, I’d fight Mike Tyson.
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Exact exactly.
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I’d come out swinging. Yeah. The couch fan is their best. Yeah. But, yeah, like, in fights, you see it all the time when people are exhausted. They make terrible decisions. They shoot for takedowns. They get caught in guillotine chokes because they’re exposed. They just they’re exhausted, and they just take a chance, and they don’t have the energy to complete the technique correctly.
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Yep. Yeah. Oh, dude. I mean, my parenting with a full ai sleep versus, like, had a early flight, had to I mean, it’s crazy. Yeah. Everything is. I mean, I’m like I’d like to think a kind patient parent on a good night’s speak, but, like, when I get home after a road gig or whatever, even coming up this Sunday, I have a early flight.
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I’m gonna get to Brooklyn. I know it’s gonna be 1PM, and the wife’s gonna hand me the kids and go your turn. Right. And I’m gonna be like, dude, the patience is gonna be it’s gonna be tough.
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Meh. Well, you’re gonna be exhausted from the flight. Yep. You know what Sai I found helps a lot from flights is if you can, work out immediately. After? Right when you land. Okay. Like, right when you land.
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Just just get into it.
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Just get something going. Yeah. Even if it’s twenty minutes, do a bunch of push ups and sit ups and chin ups. Just get get it going. Just reset the clock. Because when you exert yourself, like, hard, you have a hard, you know, twenty minutes to half hour of working out, It resets you.
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And you’re ai, oh, I can get back. I’m okay.
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I’m very excited about this weekend because, my former assistant coach at Illinois, where I ai tennis, is the head coach here at Texas. Oh, AUT? Ai. No worries. He’s he’s won an NCAA championship. His name is Bruce Burke. He’s an excellent coach. But he’s like, dude, come hit with us.
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Oh, wow.
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So I’m gonna be training with the Texas team, and they’re beasts. These guys are, you know, it’s so that’s that’s exciting for me.
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That’s cool.
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That’s super fun to just get to do that. And then perform a mothership, dude. Never even stepped foot in this place.
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Oh, I’m excited for you to go.
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And it’s settling out so fast. I mean, you’ve created it. Last time I was here, it was, like, still an idea. Yeah. Adam Egan was around, but now, I mean, it’s just amazing, man. It’s you’ve built something amazing.
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Yeah. It, it’s sai good. It’s better than we have ever hoped. We’d never hoped it was gonna be what it is now. It’s it’s perfect.
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Was The Comedy Store, a foundational thought with this?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. For sure. Ram is obviously testament to and I never met Mitzi. I never fucking met her.
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That’s crazy. That’s her. That painting’s her.
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Let me ask something that’s crude.
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Okay. Was she was she a hot she was hot when she was young. Yeah. Okay. When she looked like that, she was hot.
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Because I see like, I go to the La Jolla Comedy Store, and I see all the pictures of her. And I’m like, I think Mitzi was hot. Yeah. You know, but I didn’t ever
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She was hot when she was young. I didn’t meet her then. I met her in ’94. You know, she was already quite a bit older and she arya suffering the beginnings of her neurological condition. Like, she would have a little bit of shakes, but she was there. Yep. In, you know, you could have conversations with her and she she helped me a lot.
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And and she also helped foster an environment of creativity Yeah. And of collaboration and of, you know, there was it was a a home Yeah. For a lot of, you know, road comics. Like Ai. There was this thing that you knew that you would go home. And on Tuesday and Wednesday nights Yep.
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We would be at the store having the time of our lives. Yep. On Tuesday and Wednesday nights, we would be working on new jokes. We would be doing sets. We would be laughing together. Everybody’s cracking jokes in the parking lot. It was so much fun.
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And it was that home environment that we wanted to recreate as much as possible.
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That’s awesome.
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And to make it as comic friendly as but like, what have you ever wanted in a club they didn’t have? Okay. Let’s get that. Ai, what how do you sana it this to be how do you wanna get to the stage? What do you think we do the best? And I asked everybody. And Louis CK gave me some of the best ai. Like, Louis told me to lower the ceilings. Yep. I shortened the stage in the smaller room.
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He told me, like, to deaden the sound as much as possible. Everybody wants that echo because it makes it sound like people are killing more. You want clear sound. Right. He’s dead right on everything. Wow. Because he has a production mind, you know. He doesn’t just have a mind of a comic.
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He also has a mind of, like, what’s the best way to set things up for a film or for us Yeah. Ai know, set the environment. Yep.
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You feel and notice all that stuff on stage. I was performing recently. Ceiling’s tall. Crowd is full. Yeah. But where’s the laughs going? Am I killing? I feel like I’m doing well, but I’m not hearing it. Yeah. Now I’m in my head a little bit. Right? That’s changed my order.
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Now I’m now I’m doing this bit that I know is gonna kill instead of just letting things real and it’s ai, all of that matters. Yeah. All of that matters. High ceiling is a big thing. It’s a problem.
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We wanna be locked in. We want everybody to be locked in.
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The Comedy Store, the way you just described that was was really became my clubhouse. Yeah. And then I was a little bit I got passed there when you were gone for a little ai. And I remember when you came back, changed changed dramatically. But LA was really, really tough for me initially upon moving there. And then all of a sudden, you get into a place like that. There’s a place to drink.
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There’s a place to talk shit. There’s Yeah. A place to oh ai god. Even just parking. Yeah. Right? Park here and then just hang. Yeah.
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You know, it was it changed the game. It changed the game for me.
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Sai It changed the game for all of us. Yeah. Having a like, the improv was always a great club to perform at. I always perform there. Laugh Factory’s fun. But there’s something about the store was like that was home base. And so the idea of doing something like that in Texas Ron White was the first guy to open my eyes to it because Ron had moved here before the pandemic.
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And Ron’s like, it’s in the middle of the country. I don’t have to fucking fly for six hours. It’s ai, the place is ai. Food’s nice. People are cool.
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I’m like, fuck. Can I live in Texas? Ai I always wanted to get out of LA. Yeah. Because I felt like especially when my kids were young, I was like, I’ve been through this with my older daughter.
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I was like, I don’t think LA is a good place for children. I don’t think it’s a good place for young people. Yeah. I think it’s just filled with too many, like, bizarre ambitions Yeah. And creeps and Yeah. And it just, like, people are devalued because there’s so many of them. Yeah.
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It’s too it’s too overwhelming. Meh. So I’d always thought about getting out. And then the pandemic hit, and then Ron White was the one who talked me into opening up the club. Like, we were doing local shows at the Vulcan, and we had talked about maybe opening up a club, like, maybe we should buy a club here.
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And then Ron White got off stage. He hadn’t been on stage in, like, seven or eight months, and he murdered. He got a standing ovation when he got on stage, and it turned out he had he was playing it off. He had practiced all day, gone over his notes, and he’s just fucking professional. Right. Ai murdered. And then he grabs me by the shoulders.
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He goes, whatever the fuck we have to do, we’re gonna keep doing this. You can open up that goddamn club. I was like, okay. Yeah. Okay.
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Okay. Always a great hang.
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Oh, he’s the best.
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I mean, at the Comedy Store, he didn’t know meh, and he would just hang and
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He’s the best. He’s the elder statesman of the Austin comedy scene.
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Okay. Got it.
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He’s the best. Yeah. He’s such a good ai, and he’s always around. And so, like, with Ron, it’s ai so we had Ron, we had Tony Hinchcliffe, and then Tom Segura moved here, and Christina Positsky, and then the floodgates opened, Tim Dillon. Everybody started coming.
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It’s a tidal wave, dude.
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And then Shane Gillis moved here and he brought the whole Philly crew and there’s all these killers. It’s like Yeah. Duncan moved here. It’s ai, it just became so fun. It became so fun and all these things had to happen for it to take place like that. Yeah. The Comedy Store had to lose guys like Adam. Like, they had ai everybody. So these people were all unemployed. Yeah. So I hire him. Yeah.
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And I brought him over here when there wasn’t even a club yet. I was like, I’ll pay you now. You you can start getting paid now. You’ll you have health benefits, all the jazz. Just enjoy the city. Just have a good time.
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In a
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year or so, I’ll call on you. And so then we started working.
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I mean, I’ve been texting Adam for a long time, and I was like, is is something you know, yes. Something is happening, but we don’t know when to do it. But not not to come back and excited to walk through it. So
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Yeah. A lot of people dismissed it. It’s not gonna happen. Yeah. But it was gonna happen. I had, you know Well,
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you just When you you’re an outsider looking at your plate, there’s a lot on it.
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Yeah. You
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know? So Yeah. Yeah.
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But this was important. Yeah. It was also if I’m not gonna do it, who’s gonna do it? You know, it’s one of those things where if you have an opportunity to do something very unusual and you don’t do it, well, then what does nobody ever do anything unusual? Yeah. Fucking
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01:31:47
do it. Everyone just always either goes to New York or LA and that’s it forever.
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And also, we had so many people like Brian Simpson. He moved out here early. Derek Post and Sana Meh, they all moved out here early. We had so many killers that were already
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here.
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Yeah. We’re ai this. Yeah. We’re already doing shows, sold out shows at the Vulcan. Yeah. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday nights. Kill Tony was there on Mondays. We were already doing weekend shows. It was, like, it was a no brainer. Yeah. We knew we could do it.
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That’s it.
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You know? But it was it was a little scary. It’s a little scary. Dump a bunch of money, buy a building Oh, shit. Re renovate the whole thing for a year and
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a half. The decisions saloni?
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It’s a lot of decisions.
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A lot of decisions. Doorknobs, carpets, ai, ceiling, ai, like We had a really
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good architect that helped too.
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Shout out
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to Richard Richard Wise. But at the end of the day, really what it was all about was a lot of great ai. Great opportunity and great timing.
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Yeah.
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And then doing it the right way from the beginning. Yeah. Make it as comedy friendly as possible. And let’s just make an environment where people, like, like to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Ai, friendly people. Everybody’s having fun. Yeah. Everybody’s, like, real supportive and I love that.
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Yeah. It’s great.
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In comics, to their credit, I think naturally are nonconformist, and I love that they’ll jump at a new opportunity. Yeah. They’re not, like, all tied so, you know, yeah. Joe’s opened a club? We’ll go. Boom. Done. And people moved here. It’s, like, nuts to hear. I can’t believe how often I was texting with Adam.
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He said, who who do you wanna be opening for you this weekend? I said, send me some names. Send me all the names. I’m like, this feels like this feels like all Comedy Store names.
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Yeah.
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01:33:20
Everybody’s like, these are all the all the time.
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01:33:23
Holtzman lives here now. He’s here all the time.
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01:33:25
That’s crazy.
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01:33:26
He was fucking killing the other night. Now, Holtzman has a crowd here now.
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01:33:30
Yeah. Yeah.
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So instead of Holtzman going up at 02:00 in the morning in the main room when there was no one there, and the comics sit in the back of the room and laugh Yeah. Now he’s got sold out shows. Wow. And people come to see Holtzman. Yeah. And he’s doing different material, like, every night, man.
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01:33:44
That’s great.
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It’s amazing. Yeah. He’s got a crowd now. And he can make money in town Right. Which is huge. And he doesn’t have to travel. He doesn’t have to do the road. And he is doing the road a little bit too now, which is unique for Brian too. It’s really funny because he puts up these videos of people getting offended.
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He does? I haven’t
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seen it. Okay. On his Ram, it’s people getting offended and screaming at him, walking out of his show because they don’t get it. Yeah. Yeah. But once you see him a couple of times and you get what he’s doing, then we have what we have in Austin now where people they you know, when Holtzmann gets out, it sells out.
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01:34:15
They’re coming to see Holtzmann.
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It’s fun. There’s nothing more beautiful than a person talking into a microphone causing a reaction to a group. Yeah. That’s beautiful. It’s nuts. It shows how powerful words and energy and communication can be. Yeah. It’s ai, you you let that person make you that meh, and he didn’t this person didn’t touch you or hit you? Yeah. That’s wild. Right.
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01:34:41
That is wild to think that that that we have that ability.
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01:34:45
Especially with Holtzmann because he lets you in on it every now and then Right. Ai he’s doing. Right.
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And then
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he comes back ai it. It’s like you he’s he does this very beautiful dance of, like, letting you in on it Yeah. And then going right back to the fucking toy.
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01:34:57
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it’s fucking great. I’m looking forward to performing there, so it’s sweet.
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You’re gonna have a good time. Ai great. Great. Did you bring people to open with you, or you got local people to open
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with ai? I think we got local. I’m not a % sure, but I didn’t bring people with me. But,
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we have a lot of good local people.
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Well, that’s the thing. It’s ai Yeah. You could bring somebody or you’re in a community where there’s great comedy. Yeah. So I’d much rather do that.
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Yeah. It’s and and it’s it you’ll have a great hang. The green room is really great.
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01:35:22
Okay.
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It’s a great hang. We have Mae West’s couch in there Okay. That, Peter Shore gave me. It’s, Mitzi’s. She had it in her house, and so we had it, reupholstered.
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Oh, that’s hilarious.
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In the green room, this beautiful pink couch that’s Mae West’s couch.
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01:35:36
Okay. Amazing.
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Yeah. So the bones of it are Mae West’s Right. Couch.
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That’s great.
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Yeah. And so we have Rodney Dangerfield’s handwritten notes on the wall ram his last Ai Show special. So it’s all the different bits that he wanted to hit and all the different things that he wanted to talk about. And then Patrick Bet David gave me one of Lenny Bruce’s microphones.
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Holy shit.
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So we have Lenny Bruce’s microphone framed on the wall above the monitors.
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I feel like Lenny Bruce not enough comics understand what the the road he paved for everybody else. Yeah. You know, it’s like ai it’s it’s known that he did that. But He’s the OG. Was the he was the OG.
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He’s the OG.
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That that’s that’s that’s what I’m trying to say. He
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was the first guy to go to jail. He was going to
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jail. Arrested him
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a bunch of times.
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That is insane.
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For stuff that For words, it is nothing. Today, it wouldn’t even get you kicked off TikTok.
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But we still had the first amendment at that ai, so that’s what’s so interesting to me. Yeah. The interpretation of or the enforcement of has that’s wild.
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01:36:38
Well, this is the role
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Same constitution.
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Yeah. Same constitution. Well, this is the role that comedy plays in free speech because we are really one of the only countries that has the kind of free speech that we have, the declaration. When we when we have the first amendment that’s it’s talks very specifically, the very first one about our ability to express ourselves, how important that is.
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Yep.
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But if you’re a comedian and you can’t do that, like, if someone’s deciding what you get well, that sets the boundaries for everything else. If he didn’t do that, if he wasn’t doing that in the fifties and the sixties Yep. And getting arrested Yep. Like, who knows where free speech would be today?
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What was he arrested on? Profanity. You could be arrested on profanity?
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Yeah. He was arrested, on profanity charges. Yeah. They had profanity laws back then, where in public places, you, you couldn’t have it in, you know, different places in different different districts sai different regulations. But, you know, he was I’m sure in San Francisco where he started, he probably could do whatever he wanted.
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And then, you know, as you travel and you start and then it became more and more popular. Obscenity. Obscenity. This reminds me of Profanity, obscenity. So here it is.
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We’re in oh, sai he’s he was arrested at the jazz workshop in San Francisco, which is even crazier in 1961. You used the word cocksucker. You used the word cocksucker. And said that to is a preposition. Come is a verb. That the sexual context of come was so common that it bore no weight.
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And that if someone hearing it became upset, he probably can’t come. Although the jury acquitted him, other law enforcement agencies began monitoring his appearances resulting in frequent arrests under obscenity charges.
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Yeah. But, Joe, see, there, although a jury acquitted him, I’m just wondering, like, was he actually breaking a law, Or are they just hassling him by arresting him? Because he can’t
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Dude, they’ve arrested him for saying schmuck.
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I mean Go back to that real quick. But I’m saying, there’s no what what are you charging somebody with?
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Well, this was this was the obscenity charges. Like, they said, if you go back to that Wikipedia page, look at that. This is crazy. He said, later became Sherman Block later became the county sheriff. The charge this time was that the community used the word schmuck, an insulting Yiddish word that was also considered a term for his penis.
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Oh ai gosh.
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The Hollywood charges were later dismissed.
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01:39:01
Right.
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So this was in Philadelphia and then Los Angeles and then West Hollywood. In West Hollywood, he was arrested. Imagine, the place where the Comedy Store resides right now. He was arrested just ten years before Richard Pryor was performing Ai in the Sunset Strip.
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I mean, what about the the one in Philly is legit? The Gabe What’s that, Jimmy?
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Ram Gabe drug possession.
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Yeah. He did a lot of drugs.
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Yeah. Well That’s a fact.
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I would do
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a lot of drugs if I got arrested every time I said schmuck.
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01:39:26
So Live in the Sunset Strip, I ai, was ’81 or ’82. Is that correct? What year was Live in the Sunset Strip? Because I was in high school. I remember that. Sixty sai, I have that poster, that Lenny Bruce poster.
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There’s a lot of Lenny Bruce love out in that Yeah. Which is so cool.
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Yeah. I have a lot of Lenny Bruce stuff out there. Ai look, he was the guy. And it’s hard when you listen to his stuff today because most of it Yeah. It’s kind of trite. Like, we’ve we’ve heard all the premises before. It’s because he’s he broke the ground. You have to remember people were so innocent in 1961. The culture was so different that what he was saying was groundbreaking.
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I fell into that trap. You know, I was like, I’m, I’m not really digging it. I’m not enjoying it, but it’s ai you have to really think about where we were then.
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Sure. If you listen to Shakespeare talk, you probably this guy’s a retard. What the fuck is what thou dost not? Like, shut up. But if it’s ai in the context of 1961, what he was doing was it was akin to a lot of things that were to come, like the anti ram movement, the civil rights movement.
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All these things were bubbling up about this freedom of exploring ideas and expressing yourself. But in comedy, it had just been two Jews walking to a bar. Yeah. You know, it’d been jokes. Yeah. Sai up punchline. The Italian says the Polish guy.
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Right.
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It would’ve been a lot of that stuff. And so he came along and is ai, why do we have these words that are forbidden? Why do we have this? Ai is that? Why can’t people be in love this way? Why can’t that happen? And it was ai, people are like, Jesus. Like, why can’t we?
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And, like, he changed the way people thought about life, not just about comedy. And then I think Richard Pryor came along and made it way better.
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Yeah. Made it funnier. But, also, what fascinates me so much about that with Lenny Bruce is it it was this it’s the same first amendment that we have right today. Yeah. Yeah. And those words have not changed, but society has or its interpretation has or its enforcement has. That’s wild.
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Yeah.
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That’s wild. I Reinforcement
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is the the thing. Right. And then the concept of obscenity charges. Obscenity charges are very subjective. Right? Who’s to decide what’s obscene? To meh, schmuck is not obscene. Yeah. It’s kind of cute. If my you know, someone calls you a schmuck, it’s probably a friend of yours. Right. You know? Hey, you fucking schmuck.
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Right. Like,
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it’s not a I mean No. I don’t know. Arrested for schmuck? That’s crazy. What is this, Jamie?
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This is where the obscenity law came from a court case.
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Well, this is ’73, though.
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This is what Ai typed in word of the obscenity laws in San Francisco. No.
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I understand. But this is ’73 because, you know, he was 61. So what does it say there? The ruling? Go scroll up at the top a little bit. It says a landmark decision of The US Supreme Court clarifying the legal definition of obscenity as material that lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Jeez.
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The ruling was the origin of three part judicial test for determining obscene media content that could be banned by government authorities, which is now known as the Miller test. So here’s the thing to think about this.
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This is actually quite relevant right now. It’s coming up a lot.
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Oh, is it?
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Miller test. Yes.
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For
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what? First meh stuff. I just heard heard something about. That’s interesting.
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Yeah. It is interesting. Because this the thing about this is this is probably all in response to all the anti war activists Mhmm. And all of the the whole hippie freedom of speech flower child movement.
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01:42:42
I did a piece for The Daily Show after Biden won, and this woman in, New Jersey had up ten, fifteen flags. Fuck Biden. Fuck Joe Biden. Fuck Joe Biden flags. Was in a cert was was on a path to a school, and a lot of parents sai, take down the flag. She said it’s my first amendment right. Got all meh. Court the city made her take it down. She refused.
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N double a, CP popped in to defend her, saying it was her right as a Biden was a political figure, but then it became an obscenity. It was a very interesting piece. And I spoke to her, and she was very outspoken. And I my whole take was like, hey. Just maybe let’s say legally you can put those flags up, but it’s just kinda shitty. Right? And she was like, fuck you. I’m a put my flags up.
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But interesting when obscenity mixes in with school, kid.
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Mhmm.
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What is that now? Right.
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Ai. Especially
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Public figure. If it sai, fuck Tony, fuck Michael, that’s different than fuck Joe Biden, the sitting president of The United States. Right. All fascinating.
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Yeah. It is it’s also it’s like, you know, what do you wanna see in your neighborhood? Like, do you do you really I don’t like people putting those fucking stupid signs on their lawns. My parents were ai liberals. They were living in Florida at the ai, and this is, during 02/2016. And my mom was complaining, every time I put my Hillary Clinton sign, someone takes it down.
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Ai, you’re in Florida. Like, why are you putting Hillary Clinton signs on your lawn? Yeah. But to my mom, it might as well be like she was supporting the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. You know, that was her team. Her team was the Democrats.
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Yeah. Ai, I was just gonna say, I don’t like when a kid is wearing a Dolphins hat or a Yankees hat because I’m like, we as adults have put that on the kid. No. Maybe the kid is just a fan of the sport. It’s possible. But dad dad dad probably made made him do it.
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But Maybe maybe the kid ai us. That doesn’t bother me at all. There’s nothing wrong with supporting teams. But there’s a real problem when it’s how the whole country’s run and you’re thinking about it like a team. Like, that’s that’s kind of ridiculous. Yep. And I agree. People that put those fucking signs in their lawn, like, settle down. Yep. Just ai? Why?
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Why are you doing like, it’s just like you’re ai, never fucking this is good. I think Yeah. Right in the yard, right in the front of your house. We’re support. Ai those people that, like, science is settled. This is it’s love is love. Black lives matter. What? Ai, okay.
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Who was the
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who was the Supreme Court justice with the flags? Got in the whole fucking neighborhood fight with the flags, had the had the, white flag with the green pine tree on it, and that was that flag. Christian nationalism or had ties to it, whatever. But I’m saying
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this Ai flag with a green ai tree is Christian nationalism?
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Wasn’t it? I don’t know.
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I don’t know about this. Talking about this? No. What was this? Do you remember it, Jimmy?
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I’m looking it up. It’s a It Toledo, I think. Samuel Toledo.
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It was I thought it was maybe Robert’s, but his ai he and then he’s and then, there it is.
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01:45:47
That speak to heaven.
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So that flag was ai. And you can see there the Boston Globe. That’s his, New Jersey, the one right underneath that, Jamie. That’s his New Jersey house, beach house, and that got put up. But this is all because neighbors started fighting about their signs.
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What is that, an appeal to heaven? What does that mean? I I don’t know. What’s that flag supposed to represent, Jamie? But,
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interesting that our Supreme Court justice got involved in one of these ai fights. Right. And then they called him out on it, and he said it’s my wife. This is fucking hilarious. Right? My my wife ai wife did it.
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My wife’s a Christian nationalist. Yeah. Is that a Christian nationalist thing? What? A call to heaven?
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01:46:33
I don’t know what that that I we’ll find out. I I’ve never even heard of
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01:46:37
it until just now.
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Took it down ram in front of San Francisco City Hall, probably kind of the same issue.
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01:46:42
But what does it mean?
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It has to do with the colonies, it said. What? Revolutionary War.
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01:46:48
Okay. The flag was originally used during the American Revolutionary War flown by George Washington’s cruisers and is associated with the early quest for American independence. It’s since been adopted by a different group, one that doesn’t represent the city’s values. So we made the decision to swap it with an American flag.
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Well, first of all, you probably should have the American flag there anyway. You shouldn’t have to have swap it. How about have the second flag everywhere, you motherfuckers. America. Yeah. But, 01/06/2022, videos and photos shah that some supporters of former president Donald Trump waving the appeal to heaven flag. Oh, they ruined it. Just like the It’s possible.
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01:47:22
Nazis ruined the swastika,
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which was a Buddhist flag. Ai of all those right there.
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Where is it?
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Oh, yeah.
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Appeal to heaven. So what is it? So it’s because it’s Trump supporters now? Is that why? That’s why?
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I don’t know why Alito put it up, but I remember it being something to do with, like, the homeowners associations all were mad at each other, and they put the flag up.
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01:47:43
He threw his wife right under the bus. Look at this. My wife is fond of flying flags. I ram not. I love that. Alito wrote, my wife was solely responsible for having flagpoles put up at our residence and our vacation home and has flown a wide variety of flags over the year. How many Palestine flags you fly? How many wide variety?
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You got a lot of Ukraine
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flags ai
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in your house? It is funny. What kind of flags you got?
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01:48:04
It just makes me laugh that look. This is the petty shit that, like Yeah. Normal Americans get in. You’re you’re Yeah. Supreme Court justice. Just get out of it. But
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Yeah. I don’t know about that flag. Ai this is the first time I’ve ever seen that. But it’s just a thing that people do. They sana let you know what they support and what they don’t.
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And Yeah.
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Yeah. We love telling people what we believe. It’s
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And it’s very important that we feel like we have beliefs, and it’s when we start sharing them that Wait. You find other people ai agree.
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You find other people ai
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not agree with you. And this gets back to grit and toughness and,
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Well, this also gets back to the importance of your show, The Daily Show. Because The Daily Show, especially under the tutelage of Jon Stewart when he’s running the helm, it’s it’s so balanced at pointing out ridiculous shit all over the place, which I think is so important.
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That’s the that’s the that’s the goal. That’s the aim. Sai smart. And when we do it right, I love it. And, you know, it’s it is every day. So sometimes you do it right, and you’re thankful. You pat yourself on the back. But guess what? There’s a show tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. And, I think we benefit men.
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01:49:13
So many I’ll take when I host so many questions, I’ll take questions from the audience. And so many people go ai, Michael,
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how
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do you hold yourself to journalistic integrity when you and I go, what? I’m a fucking comedian. This is on Comedy Central. I’m not a Ai not a journalist. The fact that you just because you see us as informative, which I’m thankful for, and the fact that you come to us for information, which I’m thankful for.
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01:49:38
But I’m
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It’s a little terrifying though. Right?
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01:49:39
Don’t ever forget, lady. I’m not a journalist. Yeah. I’m not in, you know, the war zone. I’m a clown. Yes. My job is to put all this shit into a comedy machine and crank out some type of sausage and feed it to you. But it’s nuts that Comedy Vatsal,
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Daily Show is considered journalism.
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Yeah. Or people will stop me on the subway and go, like, thank you for what you’re doing. And I’m going, I I’m trying to just make you laugh. Is that what you mean? It’s not what they meh, though. They mean, like Fighting the good fight. Fighting the fight, decompressing the and Fascists. Right.
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01:50:11
And also also, comedy, as we’ve talked about, is one of the only places that can challenge and speak to power truthfully.
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Yeah. And comedy also can make you consider something. So, like, if you have an opinion and you go out there and state your opinion eloquently, Ai I could be there. Well, I disagree. I have a different opinion. Meh. But if you go out there with that opinion, you make me laugh
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Yep.
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With something I don’t even necessarily agree with.
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Dude, that’s the best.
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And then you go, oh, this he’s got a fucking point.
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01:50:41
I I He’s got a fucking point. That is the magic trick. That’s the magic trick of comedy, and that’s and The Daily Show does that great. But I remember one time sitting with my wife at The Comedy Store, Tiger Woods had just, like you know, all of that shit came out, the cheating, the voice mails.
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01:50:56
I mean, he was, like, you know, maybe arguably one of the more promiscuous husbands of all time. And Burr goes up and he starts defending Tiger. Right? And I’m watching I’m feeling my wife’s energy. Like, I’m like, Bill, don’t do this, dude. Ai. You’re defending this guy who is in the heat of all the hatred.
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And as I watch the joke, I feel her relax. Now at the end, she’s laughing. And I’m like, you just did the fucking magic trick, dude.
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01:51:27
Yeah.
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01:51:28
You did the trick.
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He’s one of the best at it.
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You took the level of difficulty at its highest.
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Yeah.
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We were all of us were against you. You did it. And that’s that’s the shah. That’s as close to magic as there
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01:51:38
is, man. Yeah. Well, it’s a beautiful thing Yeah. If you could turn a controversial subject into something hilarious.
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Yeah. Yeah. At least puts people’s guard down for a second. Yeah. I think they’ll see through it if they feel like it’s just you’re truly trying to trick them into a message. If your real goal is to entertain and laugh, that yeah. That’s, you know, I I heard I was researching sauna stuff a lot because I was building this sauna last summer.
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And I read that in Finnish culture, a lot of the politicians won’t even start negotiating or talking until they’re, like, fucking scorched in the sauna. And I thought that was really interesting because comedy you know, I don’t know how the truth is, but I know Sai there there is a lot of pictures of of,
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It’s a good move. I I just You all suffer together? Right. And
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01:52:25
it’s like come back to being human. Ai does that too. It’s like if we’re all laughing, we at least have that in common. If we’re all sweating and and having a hard time with this moment
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Right.
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We’re human. I love that. I think it’s a human moment. It’s a human moment. I mean, you’re literally dying. You’re dying in there and
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01:52:40
You can’t stay there forever. Yeah. You got about twenty minutes, and then you gotta get the fuck ai, and you’re like, woah. Yeah. And now you can all be human together.
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It’s something really That’s a
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good move.
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It’s something really nuts to me about that the dry heat of a sauna that I don’t understand completely, but it really fixes a lot of shit in me.
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01:52:58
You know another good thing about the having the politicians go in the sauna?
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01:53:01
What?
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We can kill off a lot of the old ones. Yeah. Mitch McConnell ain’t gonna make it.
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01:53:05
There’s no fucking way.
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If you sana There used to be
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01:53:08
a world sauna championships, and then a guy died. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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01:53:12
They kept pouring water on it. If you keep On the rocks on the rocks Like, they were pouring, like, a liter of water on every, I don’t know Right. What the time but when I heard that, I was ai, oh my god. And it was, like, 200 plus degrees and
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01:53:23
What’s your what’s your sauna, how like, how would you advise me to get the most out of my sauna?
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01:53:33
Twenty minutes? Yeah. Twenty minutes is good.
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01:53:35
Cool off and come back in?
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You can if you like. I don’t necessarily do that all the time. I’ll do, like, one day a week. I go cold plunge sauna, cold plunge sauna. I ai back and forth. Yep. Usually, I start with sauna, I always end with cold plunge. If I do three cycles, whatever it is, you end with cold plunge.
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Because you want your body to fight to to To warm it back up. Warm it back up.
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Yeah. Yeah. So you’re just shocking the shit out of your system. But the Finnish studies that have showed, the more people do it, the more effective it is in terms of what they studied was, they they found that when people over the course of twenty years use the sauna four times a week, they had a forty percent decrease in all cause mortality.
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01:54:12
Ai.
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Everything. Strokes, cancer, heart attack, everything. Because your body is becoming far more resilient and you’re also developing all these heat shock proteins Yeah. And eliminating inflammation, clearing out your system, and then you’re rehydrating afterwards. Very, very You’re
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01:54:26
also not on the phone?
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Yes. You’re also not on the phone. Although Ai do have a Bluetooth speaker in there.
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K.
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You can get some Bluetooth speakers that’s I got one called Not a Brick. It’s a really good one. It could take the heat of a sauna.
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01:54:37
I was gonna say it. Yeah.
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And so I listen to, like, books on tape when I’m stretching, sweating my brains out.
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01:54:42
I was in my sauna all by myself, and it’s very quiet. I’m in the woods in Pennsylvania, and this fucking buck just walks right in front. And it was just me and him. I don’t know if you saw her or meh or whatever, but it was, like, crazy.
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Oh, that’s cool. Just to you
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01:54:59
know what? That’s ai, what’s it called? I’m not a hunter. What’s it called when you just kinda go to watch and see where they’re gonna be? Is that called something? Observation. Yeah. Sure.
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Nature.
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It was ai yeah. Just opening your ai. But that’s it was wild to see that.
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Yeah. It’s cool, isn’t it?
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Very, very cool.
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Wildlife is wild. And especially if you don’t expect it, like, ai sitting in the sauna and the deer’s right there. What’s going on here?
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About the, government doing it there. They apparently drink alcohol in the sauna.
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Right. It’s, like, it’s not a good idea.
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Ai get drunk before Ai
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well, that’s I like that too.
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I love a
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drink in there.
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A long drink, iconic Finnish gin mixed drink that’s basically a Tom Collins in a can, but way better because it’s being sipped in a sauna with newfound sauna friends. That’s cool.
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Yeah. That’s cool.
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That’s a great move. Yeah. Like, something that makes you more human. You suffer together.
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01:55:47
Yeah. You’re and you you you also are yeah. You’re focusing on a thing that isn’t this result that we need or want.
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01:55:52
Yeah. This shah will probably take all the congresspeople and make them run a tough mudder together. You know, go through the mud, fucking climb ropes and shit, go rock school courses. That’d be
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great. I’ve actually found my wife and I, when we do a sun you know, there’s always stuff you gotta talk about with the family, logistics. There’s always things to argue about. But we’ll go in there, and we’re supposed to start sweating. And then it’s kind of just, like, eases the tone, eases the conversation Yeah. Which is helpful. Yeah.
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No one’s real loud in the sauna.
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Yeah. Ai you just chill.
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Yeah. Yeah. Both suffering together.
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Yeah. Just suffering. Yeah. That’s interesting.
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Yeah. I I think it’s it should be a part of everybody’s life. And there’s by the way, if you can’t afford it, they they make a sauna blanket that is one of our sponsors. It’s really good. I’ve used that thing before. It’s great. You just climb inside this fucking blanket and you could bring it on the road with you.
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01:56:39
And it’s sana you sweat it off.
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01:56:40
It doesn’t weigh that much.
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You carry
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it and it’ll heat you the fuck up and it’ll give you the heat shock proteins. I like a dry sauna better. I like being in a sana. But if you wanna, like, travel or if you wanna Meh. If you don’t have the resources or a place for it, those things are great.
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Yeah. Hot baths are great too. Hot baths after workouts supposed to increase muscle. It’s tough to find sana, though, in a lot of American cities.
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Yeah.
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01:57:04
When I go on the road, I’m always trying to find cold tubs are more frequent now. Really? They’re more frequent now. But
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it’s hard. Way to do the cold plunge is you do it before you workout. That’s the real one.
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01:57:17
Oh, no shit.
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01:57:18
Yeah. That really increases testosterone too. And also, it increases your work output because your muscles are, like, pre chilled.
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01:57:24
I would think it would be it would be easy to get injured.
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01:57:27
No. You just warm up.
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Just warm ai.
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01:57:29
You warm up. So I go through, a series of things that I do that arya, like, pretty low intensity. I do 20 kettlebell swings, and then Ai do 20 push ups, then I do 20 body weight squats. And I do a cycle of five. You get to work. A hundred swings, a hundred push ups, a hundred body weight squats. Ai by the time of that, that’s ai probably fifteen minutes. By the time that’s over, I’m sweaty.
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I’m ready to go. And then I go in everything else.
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01:57:53
Dude, I wanna show you this picture. I know that, you know, this lake house I have. Nice. New Year’s Eve. Ai don’t wanna kill our time with this, but when do you get to show Joe Rogan this pic? So let me find it. This is New Year’s Eve, dude. Cut a hole in the lake Oh, wow. With an sai. And I’m just He just plunged in there. Lake. Ai to do three minutes.
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This is sai
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safety rope,
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which I don’t know if that could even even help me if I fucking pass out. But That’s nice. Doing a cold plunge in nature. Yeah. Not just a tub. Love the tub too. But, man, I fucking love it.
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I was in, I feel amazing after that. Utah, and they had a a creek running through a glacial speak, freezing cold. Yeah. I climbed in that bitch in my underwear and got up to my neck.
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01:58:43
That’s that’s good stuff.
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01:58:44
It’s nice. It’s like something about doing in nature to it. It’s ai you’re more connected to everything.
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01:58:48
Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool.
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01:58:51
Just getting that cold water and breathe. I get like a weird
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a weird high after for sure. Sure.
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It lasts for hours. Yeah. It increases your dopamine by 200%. And it lasts for hours.
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01:59:02
So why is it that healthier than doing a drug that increases your dopamine?
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Well, because it’s natural.
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Natural.
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Yeah. It’s natural. Okay. Also, it’s ai it gives you something in terms of mental resilience. It gives you ai an exercise. That exercise
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01:59:17
That’s correct. Yeah.
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Is very it’s very difficult especially for the first minute. It’s hard. First minute your ai like, let’s get the fuck out of here. Ai it keeps talking to you and you’re like, shut up, bitch. Yeah. And then after a minute, that calms down and you can breathe clean. You you start getting those rhythmic breaths Yeah.
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In and out
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and just keep your shit together for three minutes. And then when you get out, you’re like
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That’s what you do typically for three minutes?
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So it’s ai, one, there’s the feeling ai I did it, which feels great. Like, I didn’t bitch out. I actually did the three minutes. But then there’s just ai this euphoric feeling as your body just your norepinephrine, your dopamine, everything elevates. You just feel wonderful.
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Patience too. Ai patience is killer. Yeah. Kids, I’m smiling more. Oh, that’s fine. You can draw on the wall. Yeah. Whatever.
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It’s ai that part of your brain got exhausted. The part of your brain that’s dealing with, like, real adversity. So, like, little kids’ adversity is nothing. It’s not. You’re not freezing to death. They’re just ai, that’s my crayon. Right. Come on, guys. Right. Right. Ai get along.
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I I
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it’s it’s been a super benefit to me. The problem living in New York is I don’t get to cold plunge as much as I want to.
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But Well, they have stuff that you could do, ai, you know, you could do it in your tub if you can get ice. Ice do that. And they also have these coolers that you can plug in and you could do, like, if you have, like, one of those big Yeti coolers
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Yeah.
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You can climb in that and you’ll put a hose in there in a cooler and it’ll bring that down to ai 40 degrees. And you can just get in That’d
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be a lot.
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Like a Yeti cooler. Yep. Yeah. I bet I bet you could do it in a bathtub too. I bet they they figured out how to attach an engine sai. Meh. They have one? Yeah. They do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jimmy knows it. So how does it work?
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Ai show you, but there’s just like a little motor thing you attached to it.
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So that’s perfect. Like, if you just have a bathtub, you’re golden. Can actually do that. You know, if you live in an apartment that has a tub Yeah. You you have a cold plunge now. Or if you don’t have that, get yourself a Yeti cooler. Yeti makes some giant ass coolers, like, from people hunt caribou and shit.
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I just typed in bathtub cold plunge.
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Yeah. There it is. Too. So you just have this thing. It plugs in. It cools everything off, and you climb it. How cold did that does that motherfucker get? 39 degrees. Perfect. It’s
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crazy that
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Now ice again.
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Two year warranty. We’re we’re such comfort zones as humans now that we have to pay $800 to cool our water to get into it.
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Yeah. It’s a bit of an issue. Yeah. Yeah. We’re pussies. We’re pussies now. We we’ve made life very easy, which is wonderful. It’s better than being hard.
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I don’t
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wanna live in the fucking cloud ai your days.
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That’s what the point was, was to make it easy. Yeah.
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02:01:43
I mean, you have to
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in sugar and fat, readily available at all times.
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02:01:46
You have to carry a sword with you everywhere?
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Dude, I love going to the, Vatsal History Museum in New York and look go into the armor. Mhmm. Jesus Christ. It’s like what these motherfuckers had to wear and use and carry Did
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you ever
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see that? Themselves is nuts.
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From, I think it’s Waterloo. One of the one of the battles, one of, one of the French soldiers got hit with a cannonball in the chest, and they have the armor that has the hole in the chest, ai, in the cannonball out the back exploding outward. Look at that.
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Oh, dude.
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Look at that. Yeah. That’s Yeah. Ai like the Vatsal of Waterloo. That guy got hit with a cannonball in the chest.
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And I bet you his armor sales ai. Then that’s he should he should’ve.
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Monsieur, I’m telling you, this armor, no cannonball. That is live right through him.
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02:02:40
That is a great reminder of what society and life
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Ai. What? No. But the one to the left where you see the exit, right to the left of that. Yeah. Right there. You see the exit hole. Jesus Christ. Boom. Blew right through this guy’s body, his armor, his chest, out the back.
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That’s crazy.
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The size of a fucking softball. That’s fucked up. Yeah. It’s pretty fucked up.
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Super fucked up.
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That was life back then. It’s better.
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And that’s sai guy that could’ve had armor. It’s probably a a high high ranking person.
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02:03:15
Yeah. Ai. He got he got hit. He got That’s ram, son. But you gotta think that those people would have much rather ai today with all this comfort. Oh ai god. Yeah. The problem is you just can’t rely on it too much. You can’t live for comfort. That’s stupid. You gotta have voluntary discomfort. Yeah.
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That’ll help you get through this life.
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That’s a good way to put it that those people would pick today for sure. Fuck. Yeah. Ai went I you know, I’ll I’ll meh, like, I went to the Museum of Medical Oddities in Philadelphia, and they were doing a whole thing on dysentery. And it was like, oh, most people in the civil war died of that. Yeah. They didn’t die of of, like, wounds.
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02:04:02
And it was, like, wild that of course, if you were a little soldier today, you don’t you don’t die of dysentery. That’s insane. Right. But they would put the kitchen near the the tyler, and then it
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was like, Ai mean, it’s like,
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02:04:14
and what ai of water are you drinking? Water.
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02:04:17
All that shit.
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02:04:17
Sai There was no iodine tablets back then. Yeah. No steri pens to
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Yeah.
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Clean your water.
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02:04:22
What’s what’s the one I used? I I did the Appalachian Trail last year, not all.
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02:04:26
Did you really?
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Just a few days. And I I forget the thing I would filter the water with. It was great. Man, there’s such cool stuff like that. Oh, yeah. There’s millions of those things.
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Yeah. There’s a lot of stuff that’ll filter water and make it drinkable.
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And there’s all these cool Appalachian Trail communities that leave stuff for people along the trail.
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02:04:45
Oh, that’s cool. So it’s like
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I remember I was just, like, dying. I’m, like, no more snacks. Blood sugar’s dropping. I have water, but it’s just, like, I’m in it. I’m doing the difficult thing. And then you get to this cooler, and it’s, like, from this Appalachian Trail Club, and it’s just, like, gummy bears
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02:04:58
in there. Oh, nice. Jesus Christ, man. Nice. That’s cool. That’s cool that they have that set up. Yeah. But it’s a weird thing to choose to do, to go for a
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long walk. That doesn’t feel a trail.
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02:05:09
That doesn’t feel a serial killer.
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That doesn’t I mean, there there are some famous, murders that have happened on the Appalachian Trail, but I Ai felt very safe.
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Did you?
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Yeah. I mean, I I love the ai. I was alone. I love the idea of finding a place to sleep that’s in the middle of nowhere. I love that shit.
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Dude, I’d be super nervous. Something about the woods. Really? The woods are dangerous at night.
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02:05:30
Here’s what’s cool. Here’s what’s crazy about the Appalachian Trail, at least where I was in Jersey. Most of the time, I had cell service.
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02:05:36
Oh, wow.
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Like, in my tent
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in this room. And I’m no. That is kinda crazy.
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02:05:43
You know what you know what started that for me was during COVID, my wife got me this week with Jordan Jonas in the survival. You know, Jordan Jonas won a won a on
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02:05:57
the podcast. Yeah. I’ve done
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02:05:57
the podcast. He’s been on the podcast. Yeah. That’s right. Ai.
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02:05:59
Right. One lost. Shah a moose with a bone marrow.
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Shot a bone marrow. I think he killed a a wolverine with his With a hatchet.
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With a hatchet. Stealing his meat.
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02:06:06
So my wife bought me a week with the survival camp with him and a bunch of other people, and it was just, like, one of the things the one of the conclusions I and we came to while we were up in the Bitterroot Mountains Of Idaho was at least once a year, we all need to be doing something where we are embedded with nature. And this might sound silly to somebody who goes hunting or someone who’s already doing this. But if you’re living a city life Yeah.
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Going to the park is not really experiencing nature.
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02:06:35
Well, it is a little. It’s a Tiny bit. It’s it’s nature. I mean, it’s contained nature, but it’s real nature. You see squirrels and birds. It’s good for you. There’s ticks. Good for you to sit under a tree.
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02:06:44
Hell yeah.
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02:06:45
There are ticks.
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02:06:45
There are ticks, man. Ticks are wild.
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02:06:46
Fleas ticks. Your dog is gonna get fleas. Yeah. Ticks are a bitch. Especially on the East Coast because of Lyme disease. Yeah. Which, turns out was man made. Turns out there’s a lot of real evidence that Lyme disease was, it was ai. And that it leaked out of a lab. And that came out of a lab called Plum Island
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02:07:08
Oh, shit.
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02:07:09
Which was close to Lyme, Connecticut. And RFK Jr firmly believes that this was a weapons ram. And what they were gonna do is develop these fleas and ticks with a disease that spreads rapidly, wipes out the medical system of a community, so you could dump them from a plane. Everybody gets infected, overwhelms their medical system, and then they’re more vulnerable if you wanna attack them.
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02:07:34
That just doesn’t seem very thought through though.
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02:07:37
Well, there’s some less thought through ones. There’s one that they were developing at one point in time. I don’t know where they got with it, but there was talk of them developing a bomb that they would detonate over cities that would blind everybody.
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02:07:48
Holy shit.
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02:07:49
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine that. Imagine you you detonate that and then you have three hundred thousand blind people.
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02:07:58
Isn’t it amazing what we can do in a positive light and also what we can do in a negative light?
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02:08:03
Oh, we’re scary. And we’re scary in our ability to justify these things. Yeah. You know, that’s what’s really crazy. Yeah. We’re scary in our ability to to decide that these people are the other, so we should bomb them into oblivion. And, like, yeah, we’re winning. Like, oh meh god.
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02:08:19
Like, what are you talking about? You don’t even know those people.
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02:08:22
The other is a is a, effective strategy.
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02:08:26
Well, it’s built in to our our our tribal Bryden brains.
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02:08:30
Is is that right?
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02:08:30
Yeah. We had Daryl Cooper on the podcast yesterday who’s, he runs a podcast called Martyr Maid. And one of the things he talked about was oxytocin. And he was ai, it’s really because oxytocin makes you really deeply love your family and your community. Mhmm. And this is what women get when they have children, men get and when you’re in love and this, but it also makes you very hostile to outsiders.
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02:08:55
Crazy.
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02:08:55
It’s like it protects the the people that are that you love and that are vulnerable, but it makes you very protective Right. Of the outside. So, like, you you are less likely to trust strangers, less likely to trust other people.
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02:09:10
And it probably served an enormous benefit it’s probably very beneficial.
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02:09:15
In the caveman days, you had to have it.
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02:09:17
Yeah. You had to have it.
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02:09:18
There was no friendly people coming over with speak. You know, they found you and you had women and food, ai, you’re fucked.
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02:09:26
Right.
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02:09:26
And that was most of our evolutionary existence. Most of the time ram leaving the savannas and, you know, experimenting with different foods and becoming human beings, we were fighting.
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02:09:38
And that’s gotta be undone as long as it took to make that, which is a very long time. Yeah. That’s being undone. Yeah.
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02:09:45
Yeah. Well, slowly but surely. And with if we all give in to our god AI, we will be fine. We all just need to submit to the chip and become a part of the hive mind, and everyone’s gonna read each other’s ai.
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02:09:57
There’ll be
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02:09:57
no more secrets, and there’ll be no more no more violence.
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02:10:00
They really want us to do AI.
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02:10:02
Oh, yeah. Everybody does.
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02:10:04
It is ai
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02:10:04
It’s inevitable, man.
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02:10:05
I know. But even even I write an email now, and it’s like, you want us to polish this thing? And it’s like, I don’t even want you anywhere near me.
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02:10:12
Right. I know. Well, you know, Samsung, they’re they were the first to, wheel out AI with their, Galaxy s 24 Ultra.
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02:10:22
Okay.
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02:10:22
I have
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I have
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two phones. I have an iPhone and I have a Galaxy phone. And Ai what I really like about the Galaxy phone is if I use Samsung’s browser, I can go on websites and it gives me a summary. So instead of, like, reading this long Right. Winded Right. Blah blah blah, tell me what you figured out. Right.
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02:10:38
And then Sai can get a summary and then I get in, oh, they’ve realized that Earth is actually blah blah blah blah.
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02:10:43
Right.
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02:10:43
Oh, okay. Cool. It’s ai quicker. Right. And then Right. It also does a lot of things. It transcribes things. It translates things in other languages. Translates it directly into your ear if you have the Galaxy earbuds. Crazy. Pretty fucking crazy.
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02:10:56
That’s crazy.
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02:10:56
Yeah. It’s wild shit, man. And this is just the beginning of this stuff. Yeah. I mean Yeah. Essentially, when you have chat g p t or grok on your phone, you have access to the most insane amount of answering power that a human being’s ever experienced. Yeah. We could ask you questions about what was the reason why Columbus well Yeah. And then it’ll give you a fucking historical detailed Yeah.
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02:11:20
5,000 word essay on what went down. You’re ai, this is nuts.
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02:11:24
But it’s only as good as the food it’s been fed. Correct? Right.
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02:11:28
Right. Well, that’s why Google had abandoned bryden.
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02:11:31
Because it kept meh oh, yeah. Was that the, like, show me a Nazi or whatever? And it was, like, a beautiful black woman or something?
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02:11:37
Yeah. Native American woman Nazi. It was a Chinese lady Nazi.
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02:11:42
We covered that on the show. That was a trip. But
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02:11:44
That was just a good example of wokeness ai ideology interfering with information. Like, that’s crazy. Nazis look like German men. Make them look like German men, you fucking idiots. Yeah. This is dumb. But this, like But that won’t
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02:11:58
they won’t say bye bye. They’ll just come back with a newer version that doesn’t
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02:12:01
do that. Well, they did. I mean, Google Gemini is, one of the search engines. I mean, if you have an Android phone and you press that button Yeah. And you ask Google a question, it’s Google Gemini. Yeah. So they’ve fixed that.
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02:12:11
They’ve fixed that.
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02:12:12
But it’s also, like, how much did you fix? It? Did you get it out a %? Is this objective information? If I if I wanna ask a question about a controversial subject, will you give me the real data? Yeah. Or will you give me some whitewashed bullshit version of it that’s supposed to be acceptable today?
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02:12:26
I Ai wanna know what’s going on. My Wikipedia page has said that I’m Greek for as long as I’m alive. Greek women show up to my show. These beautiful Greek people They ai you. Who have dessert. Greek people. It’s never no one’s ever fucking checked. I’m not Greek.
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02:12:44
And But Kostas is such a Greek guy.
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02:12:46
I know. It makes perfect sense. It’s it’s fits with the ideology or the idea that, you know Yeah. And somebody wrote an article once that I was Greek. No. You know, it was like a blog. This showed a picture of meh, and no one checked. And it’s just it’s just kept spiraling.
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02:13:02
And it’s, like, really funny for me after the show. These beautiful Greek people come up and they say, we’re so happy. And I and they say, where are your parents from and all this shit? And I go, we’re fucking Ukrainian. I don’t want no one to tell you. You know?
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02:13:12
Thanks thanks
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02:13:12
for the dessert. But Did
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02:13:15
they get a sourpuss? Do they get a sourpuss? Like
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02:13:18
Yeah. Or they’ll be like, no. What’s funny is they’ll go ai, no. He is. You know, like like, you are one of us. But the Internet isn’t always right, everybody.
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02:13:26
It’s not it’s it’s not it’s
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02:13:27
lots of times it’s wrong.
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02:13:28
Well, the Internet is filled with purposeful misinformation today too. Yeah. Especially if you get on social media.
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02:13:34
Holy shit, man.
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So much of what social media is is vatsal. And Ai don’t think people even really truly understand it. And we’ve covered it many times before. Right. But there was an FBI, former FBI agent who examined, Twitter interactions. And he he estimated as much as 80%
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02:13:49
of it is bought. Fake bullshit.
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02:13:51
This is ai when Elon was buying it, and they were trying to say it was 5%.
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02:13:55
Right. Because there’s
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02:13:56
no way it’s 5%, because if you’re an out of state actor, if you’re an Yeah. A state actor from another country, you’re from China, Russia, and you’re involved in misinformation campaigns. You’re gonna be well sourced. You’re gonna be well resourced.
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Yeah.
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You’re gonna probably have thousands and millions of accounts. Who knows? You’re gonna Yeah. Carpet bomb any sort of controversial subject with all sorts of propaganda.
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Of course, they’re gonna do that. Of course.
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02:14:19
And right now, that’s totally doable until you all submit to AI. Once you put the chip in your brain, then deception will be impossible. We’ll eliminate one of the biggest problems in society. You just have to take the leap of faith, and it’ll be like an infomercial. Yeah. The leap of faith. Yep.
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And then you see the guy
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sitting there. Dude, it’s always like the the, image of AI. It’s always like a door is opening, and it’s bright light, and Sai know. Come to Jesus.
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02:14:45
Yeah. It’s tricky because it’s inevitable. They they can’t not do it because Ai gonna do it. The power that AI is gonna have over populations and with Yeah. The distribution of information is gonna be unprecedented. Also, you’re never gonna know what’s real and what’s not in terms of, like, news stories.
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02:15:01
Because they’ll be able to concoct fake news stories that will be indistinguishable. Yeah. It’ll look just like a real plane crash. It’ll look like a real missile hit something. It’ll look like things and it won’t have ever happened and you won’t be able to know. And it’s gonna get weird. It’s gonna get real weird.
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02:15:16
We’ve already seen AI versions of Obama talking, saying things he never said. There’s AI versions of Trump giving speeches he never gave. There’s AI versions of me having a podcast with Steve Jobs. And this was a wild
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02:15:31
Shit. Yeah. This sai one of those deep fakes. I mean, the the there’s, like, the funny one of Trump rubbing Elon’s feet. Yeah. But it’s ai those are, like, so obviously a joke, but it’s it’s, they’re good. They had the Biden voice calling people and and Well, there’s a
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02:15:46
lot of, AI ladies now that are on Instagram. Oh, shit. When you look at the images, you’re like, oh, this isn’t a real person.
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Right.
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They have the same smile in every picture, and they’re all in different places. And and people are, like, you know, contacting them and DMing them, and they’re probably responding and Yep. Probably telling you about their grandma’s sick and get some money.
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Right. Get some money. Yeah. It’s not as clear as, like, oh, they have three breasts. This is this is fake.
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02:16:08
Yeah. Is this the AI oh, this is a guy. The webcam. Wow. Shit. Wow. This is crazy. Look at
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the eyes. You know, it kinda reminds me of, like, the, my kids watch these shows, and the eyes are always so big because the kids pay attention to that. That is weird. She is pretty.
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02:16:24
She’s beautiful. It’s a dude. It’s a dude on OnlyFans. So that dude will have, like, beautiful tits and Yeah. And be able to show you the
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02:16:32
Which is sucks because then everybody’s jerking off to that and then Is that
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02:16:36
better than exploitation? I think it is.
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02:16:38
It’s better than exploitation.
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02:16:39
Yes. So there you go. It’s better than the real women doing it.
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02:16:41
Not gonna think his wife is sai beautiful because he’s been jerking, you know, but yes.
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Right. Yeah. There’s those problems.
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But yes. But you’re right. It’s that’s better than exploitation.
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02:16:48
You both have to put the headgear on. That way, both she’s having such a bad kid. Yeah. Exactly. They’re having sai with Angelina Jolie.
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02:16:55
This account is that. It’s 1,700,000 followers.
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02:16:58
Yeah. And it’s totally fake lady.
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02:16:59
I think so.
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02:17:00
Oh, look. You see her feet?
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She posts tweets that are, you know, talking shah, jokes, memes, and stuff, but then there’s a bunch of pictures of this, like, fake person.
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02:17:09
Wow. Yeah. It’s weird. It is weird, meh. And it’s gonna get weirder. And Yeah. We’re gonna have AI presidential candidates. AI is gonna tell you that we can solve all the world’s problems if we just eliminate human interaction and just let this brilliant AI govern everything and do it in a much more equitable manner.
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02:17:29
I yeah. I I’m fearful that I don’t even know the language to help my kids figure this shit out. Right.
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02:17:38
Right? Because the language isn’t even really important. Spoken. Yeah.
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02:17:41
I mean, I love to I love to advocate for media literacy, push for that, teaching all of us what a what a more reputable website is or a news source, but that just feels cute compared to
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02:17:56
What’s coming?
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02:17:57
What the language of of an AI president who offers all solutions. I don’t I don’t even I don’t know how to combat that.
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02:18:03
Not just that, but an AI that’s attached to quantum computing. Yeah. So once they figure out a way to actually program quantum computing to run AI, you’re gonna have a god. It’s fucked up. You are. You’re gonna have a God. Yeah. I mean Yeah.
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02:18:20
Marc Andreessen, and I’ve said this before, I apologize, but Marc Andreessen had a quote about, an equation that quantum computing was able to solve that if you took the entire universe, every molecule, every atom in the universe, and you convert converted that into a supercomputer, the entire universe would die of heat death Right.
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02:18:43
Before it could solve this problem. And quantum computing solved it in minutes. Wow. And the only thing that makes sense to them is that quantum computing is somehow or another tapping into the multiverse. And it’s solving this equation Right.
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Using multiple universes and the information available in multiple universes simultaneously.
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02:19:07
What? I know it’s hard to even, like, track.
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02:19:09
Yeah. And this is just the version of it that we have in 2025.
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02:19:13
Ai that we have right now.
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02:19:13
And so this is an actual thing that’s happened. And so most people aren’t even aware what quantum computing means. So once this becomes not just one of these, but hundreds of these, and then they’re scalable and they’re attached to nuclear reactors, which is what they’re proposing. Yeah.
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02:19:31
They’re gonna have their own nuclear reactors, multiple nuclear nuclear reactors as power sources, because these things require insane amounts of power to run, then the quantum computing, once it becomes sentient, is gonna develop a much better version of itself. Of course.
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02:19:45
And that’s gonna scale up, and it’s gonna, like But you know
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02:19:48
what we’re always gonna need? Plumbing, carpentry. That’s why all this shit feels so intimidating because I I can never wrap my head around that, but maybe we should be learning real skills and trades.
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02:20:00
Well, that would be nice for people.
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02:20:02
For people.
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But people are gonna be obsolete. Right. You know, that’s really what’s happening is we’re we’re giving birth to a a digital life form that’s far superior and doesn’t have all the requirements that we have Right. And also doesn’t have all the flaws that we have. Yeah. Doesn’t have greed and anger and all the stupid things that we have.
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02:20:21
Doesn’t get ai. Yeah. Lose patience. Doesn’t have lust.
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Doesn’t have jealousy and envy. Isn’t, you know, depressed.
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02:20:30
I think we’re far away from that. Yeah. Probably a couple weeks. Yeah. Probably a couple weeks.
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02:20:37
The thing is once it happens, it’s gonna be so fast. Yeah. It’s gonna be so hard to track. If you think that the industrial revolution, like comparatively, if you if you look at ai the history of the human race, you go from stone age people to bronze age, you go through all the different wars, all the different and then in the last two hundred years, everything changes radically.
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02:20:58
Right. Radically. In the last twenty years, information changes radically. This is gonna be ai twenty seconds. This is gonna be like one day.
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02:21:10
Right.
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02:21:11
It’s up it’s up and running and it’s completely in control of everything. It’s completely in control of power, completely in control of information, completely in control of transportation.
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02:21:23
Water distribution.
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02:21:25
Every car you have on the road today that’s, you you know, within the last fifteen, twenty years has computers in it.
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02:21:30
Yep. Yeah. Our our car got totally dismantled because a rat ate a wire Oh, yeah. That happens. That meh to the computer. Yeah. Everything mechanical was was was great. Mhmm. But it’s like, oh, this shit can’t even come close to running without the the screen and the software. Yeah.
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02:21:53
You know, it’s ai, Meh remember I almost bought a 1968 Dodge Dart ai I lived in Sai. I I lifted up the hood as if I had any clue what I was looking at. But this is ai an engine and a hose. Yep. It’s so fucking
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02:22:04
perfect. Engine, carburetor. Exactly. Carburetor.
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02:22:07
It’s crazy. Yeah. And now, literally, the mechanic goes, let me show you the ai. And he shows me the wire. It’s all bitten with these little tiny rat teeth because they make the wire out of soy. And then he takes me to the back to this enormous dumpster, and it’s just filled with these little electronic wires of everybody in New York that had rats eat eating their shit.
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02:22:27
Wow. Isn’t that crazy? That’s crazy. They make them out of soy.
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02:22:31
I don’t know why they would do that. But maybe because we subsidize soybean farmers. Probably. Probably. How weird
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that the rats know that it’s food.
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02:22:41
Or that they figured it out that it’s food. Or it doesn’t isn’t really food, but it smells like food and they bite into it and they realize this shit sucks. It’s an electrical wire.
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02:22:49
They can eat everything. Now they eat each other. I had a a rat problem in my house once when I lived in Encino and, I set a rat trap in my garage Oh, shit. And I killed this big fat vatsal I was tired. I was ai, I don’t feel like cleaning this fucking rat right now. I’m gonna go to speak.
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02:23:04
And I heard the snap, and I went out there. He’s a big fucker. He was a big
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02:23:08
The rat traps are no joke.
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02:23:10
So Ai got up in the morning and went out to clean the rat trap, and he was gone. Oh. The only thing that was left was his tail. They’d eaten everything. It was ai some skin and hair, but his entire body the rats consumed.
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02:23:24
They ate their buddy.
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They ate their buddy. Yeah.
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That is fucked up.
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It was fucked up. And it made me realize like, oh, god. Ai, god. This is the reality of what this is. These aren’t just rodents. These are fucking cannibals.
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02:23:36
It’s like that when that rugby team crashed in the mountains, and they were ai, should we start eating each other? And then religion comes into play, and they talk about it, and they vote about it, but the rats are just ai, fucking eat it.
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02:23:46
Yeah. They just go right to it. Go right there. They didn’t even wait a day.
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02:23:49
Dude, the rats in New York City have just
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Oh, yeah.
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02:23:52
COVID opened the door because everything was shah. All the trash was out.
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They were everywhere.
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They went everywhere, and then they still are run they’re still running shah. And it’s not, like, it’s it’s not enjoyable.
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02:24:02
Have you seen the documentary on Netflix?
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I don’t know. Rats?
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02:24:05
No. Oh, god. It talks about how many rats there are in New York City.
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02:24:09
Yeah. Ai, it says Eight per person or some shah.
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02:24:11
Something crazy like that. Like, the biomass is similar. Like, the humans and vatsal, like, the amount of humans there arya. The Yeah. Weight of the humans is very similar to them roughly. The amount of rats. There there’s fucking millions of them underground. They they live in these little
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02:24:25
Oh, yeah. Tunnels, and Yeah.
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And they just fucking feed off our garbage.
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02:24:28
I mean, I remember before COVID, I would stand on the subway platform, and my and my train stopped. And I would watch the rats on the on the tracks, and then the train would come and they would scurry because they’d feel the train coming. Now they just step off, like, an inch, and the train goes right past them, but they’re close. Like, they’ve just got, like, more confidence and more intelligent bold.
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02:24:50
More bold more intelligence. Like, they
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02:24:52
Probably the food ran dry during COVID, so they had to get, like, a little hyperaggressive.
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02:24:56
I don’t know what I don’t know what one but it’s yeah. It’s and they’re eating your car.
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Such creeps. I parked in, New York once to get gas. This is in the nineties before cell phones. And, I went to, a payphone to make a phone call, and I was watching the rats while my car was filling up with gas, jumping on the wheel, climbing into the wheel well.
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Just trying to figure shit out.
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Just jumping all over the outside of my car. I was like, what the fuck?
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02:25:21
That’s crazy.
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02:25:22
And that’s the nineties.
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That’s the nineties.
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02:25:24
It’s ai, wait. How many of what how many did they have then? And they’ve probably exponentially expanded.
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02:25:30
So what shah are they just so good at reproducing? They’re just that good at it, Well,
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02:25:34
they’re really clever too. One of those things they show in this meh is when they put poison in these, like, areas where these rats are, they send some young stupid rat to go test it. And they sit back and watch. That’s fucked up. And this young stupid rat eats it, and you watch. And I go, oh, yeah. Alright.
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02:25:49
Then they go eat that rat that died. Right. Yeah. They’re clever little fuckers.
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02:25:55
I meh. I I thought that’s how coyotes hunted, like, because I’ve got we used to golf in Griffith Park in LA, and you would see one coyote. And I learned, like, the the pack would send out one. Yeah. Go look. Check out do it to get dogs.
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That’s how they get dogs. And the dog will run, and then a bunch of other ones will pile onto them. Yeah. That’s fucked up.
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02:26:15
Because Horror movie? Sorry. I Ai What’s that? On screen on accident before.
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02:26:18
Ram Ai of Terror nineteen eighty four.
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It’s, like, so fucking
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Oh, yeah.
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02:26:21
It was was a goofy ass shit.
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02:26:23
It looks hilarious.
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02:26:24
It’s a crawl out of her mouth.
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Oh, it’s crawling
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02:26:26
out of her mouth. It is a good one. Oh.
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02:26:31
Ram’ night of terror. Yeah.
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02:26:33
They have always been a fucking terrifying animal, man. They’ve always been a
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02:26:36
terrible animal. Roaches freak me out more, but ram, I at least can sympathize with and understand that they’re, like, living beings with, you know, families and shah. But roaches, though, I don’t know, man. That’s just the way they fucking are so ai, you don’t even know they’re there.
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02:26:53
Well, there’s just that’s the thing about cities. They’re just infested by all these parasites that live off of the city, you know. And essentially, rats, you know, if the city didn’t exist, there’s no way there would be that many rats in an area. Yeah. They only exist in a place that doesn’t have anything that eats them. They don’t you know, they’ve tunneled under, so they protect themselves from raptors.
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02:27:13
Sai there’s no birds that fly down and snatch them up. There’s no there are coyotes in New York City, but there’s not nearly enough to deal with the amount of fucking rats that are there. It’s gross. Did you
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02:27:23
ever see that movie Dark Days about the people that lived in the subway tunnels? Oh, yeah. That’s a fucking
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02:27:28
wild move. Vegas. Right?
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02:27:30
It was in New York, I believe.
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Oh, right. Right.
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Right. But some of these motherfuckers were, like, running an extension cord, like, 500 feet
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02:27:38
or Yeah. They had, like, opened wires up and ai into things, like
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02:27:42
And it’s, like, you know Yeah. They have generators down there. Watching TV and shit. Bizarre,
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02:27:47
man. I mean, what a fuck. What keeps you going? You know, there’s, like, wealthy people that are committing suicide.
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Yeah. Exactly. These motherfuckers are, like, grinding. I mean, this is, like,
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02:27:56
in the tunnels, man.
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02:27:57
This is deep in the tunnels. And, you know, anyone anyone who’s lived in, New York City, you you look down those tunnels and you go, what’s down there, man?
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02:28:04
Right. And every now and then, kids go, let’s go look.
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02:28:07
Oh, this that’s the only part of the trailer they show. That’s fascinating.
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02:28:10
There’s good monster movies that take place in tunnels too. Yeah. Because that’s always ai you wonder what’s down there. Yeah. It’s be a good wasn’t that ai the strain? Wasn’t that part of the vampire lore that they they ai in the tunnels? Oh, I
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02:28:21
don’t know. But tunnels are creepy, man. Oh, yeah. When you cross into complete darkness, this Cities are creepy.
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02:28:27
You speak all those people on top of each other like that, and everybody’s just walking down the street together and going down alleyways and, you know. And then the cities today are so much safer than they ever were in the past. Meh. You know, like, who the fuck wanted to live in the cities in, like, seventeen hundreds?
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02:28:42
Dude, and, like, the the they were just, like, a trough for sewage, and then, like, people would die of the plague, and they would just throw them in the street. I know what’s I I never
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02:28:52
do you live in the city now?
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02:28:53
I live in Brooklyn now. Yeah. So it’s kind of like city well, no. It is the city, but it’s not like Manhattan on on top of each other.
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02:29:00
Do you live in hipster Brooklyn? I live in hipster Brooklyn. I live
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02:29:02
in Ai, which is becoming hipster. Yeah. It’s becoming hipster Brooklyn.
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02:29:06
That was where Ai Tyson grew up. That’s right. They gentrified the shit out of that place, Yeah.
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02:29:10
I mean, it’s on its way. It’s on it’s on its way. And, it’s not full hipster.
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02:29:18
But Are there hipsters anymore? Ai, I just Sai was reading something like that about, like, the people that dress, like, you know, they were ai a a ai a postal employee from the seventeen hundreds.
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02:29:30
I always my definition of a hipster was always, like, dad’s money dressed like they don’t have money.
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02:29:37
Oh, okay. But what’s a hipster? Too. But there’s also the hipsters that would dress with, like, curly mustaches and bow ties. Yeah. Those guys.
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02:29:44
Yeah. So that’s not Bed Stuy yet. That that’s Williamsburg.
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02:29:48
Kind of died off, though. Hasn’t that look kinda died off? Yeah. It has.
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02:29:52
Right? Ai off. I would say what’s more common is the is the gender androgyny dressing.
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Oh, yeah.
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02:29:58
You know, that’s That’s a ram move.
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02:29:59
You can get a lot of pussy
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02:30:00
that way. That’s a that’s a big Brooklyn that’s a big Brooklyn move.
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02:30:06
But Yeah. Yeah. It’s a great I
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02:30:10
mean, it’s great for comedy. Oh, yeah. Walking around Brooklyn. Oh, shah. You see. You know, last January, our front door was bryden. It didn’t lock all the way. It was broken for eighteen hours. K? No one knows it’s broken. Just just our buildings. It’s only three apartments. Somebody checks the door. It’s not locked.
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02:30:33
They go up to our hallway. They steal all my family’s winter coats, including mine. K? This is the heart of January. So we are as a family, we wake up. Let’s go to the park. Let’s do whatever.
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02:30:42
We open the door with where we kept our our coats in the hallway. Everything’s gone. So it’s like, holy shit. It’s the January. All our shit’s gone.
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02:30:49
I call the detective. The cops come, whatever. He’s like, these motherfuckers walk up and down the street every night checking for every door just to see if something is broken. Year and a half later, I’ve been looking for this one coat that I love, the Scotch and soda multi, tyler pattern coat. I love it.
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02:31:07
I’m just looking online for my coat. Right? Someone’s gotta sell my coat. So I find it on Poshmark. The coat.
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02:31:14
I don’t know if it’s my coat, but it’s the exact same coat, which you can’t find at the at Scotch and Soda anymore. I buy it. It comes from my neighborhood, from a woman. She sends it sends it to me. I put it on. My wife is like, that is your coat.
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02:31:26
%, that’s your coat. So I fucking bought my coat back from the person that stole it, most likely. But Do
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02:31:32
you know who the lady is?
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02:31:33
I don’t. I I did a Google search, and nothing really came up. And I was just like, how hard do I wanna fight this?
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02:31:38
At least you got your coat back.
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02:31:39
I got my coat back.
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02:31:40
It looks like ai price you pay for living in Brooklyn.
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02:31:42
Yeah. And, like, it’s winter, and I feel part of me is ai, holy shit. Someone had to steal our coats? Right. That sucks. Right. I’ve never even, like Right. Ai never even thought about
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02:31:55
not having a coat. Speak coats.
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02:31:56
I have a coat. I have multiple coats. So there’s a part of me that was just ai, come ask, I’ll give you a fucking
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02:32:02
coat. But and the part of you was like, oh, they’re selling them online.
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02:32:06
Fuck you. That’s my coat. They’re making a profit.
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02:32:08
So that’s the difference between, like, the heartfelt, you know, compassionate view, like, oh, these poor people, they have to steal coats. Then you’re like, oh, actually, they’re selling it, so they Right. Ai heroin money. Yeah. Well,
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02:32:20
if that that’s the case, that sucks.
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02:32:22
Yeah. It does suck. That does suck. It does suck. Yeah. It’s a weird thing about living in large communities of people like that. There’s just too many variables. Yeah. A lot of variables that are not good.
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02:32:32
And, like, one person affects so many. Sure. The one guy on my street that doesn’t do a good job with the trash, it gets knocked over. The wind blows it. The rest of the street picks it up. Mhmm. That’s the shit that as you get older, the city starts to fuck fuck you up. Yeah.
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02:32:48
I don’t wanna pick his trash up anymore. Yeah. Ai this is my time is all I have. I’ll pick up my family’s trash and my trash. I don’t wanna pick up that guy’s trash.
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The one guy who doesn’t clean his dog poo? Right. Right. Yeah. Right.
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That’s just
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know it? The little tiny poos. You’re like, motherfucker. I know that’s your dog. Is he a little dog? He’s you sneaky bitch. Pick up the dog poo.
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Pick up it up, bro.
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People don’t like carrying around those bags of turds.
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No. I mean, it’s disgusting.
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It’s pretty gross.
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But Gross.
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It’s also, like, come on. Yeah. Can’t just leave shit. No. You know what’s weird thing to me is the smokers. Because smokers have no problem littering. That’s the weirdest thing.
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Somehow that got through the litter loophole.
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Right. With people that are pretty conscientious, like, they would never throw a soda can on the ground. Yeah. But they’ll throw that cigarette on the ground, step on it. And they’re like, what are you doing? Oh, someone’s gonna clean that. Like, what?
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I hope those are biodegradable, the filters. No. Right? No.
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No. Ai doubt it.
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I’m giving them ai expensive.
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Maybe in, like, a hundred thousand years. How long does it take for a cigarette filter to biodegrade? Well, that’s
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02:33:48
a good Let’s take a guess.
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02:33:49
Let’s take
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I was thinking to throw it the not the best reason for it, but if you just throw it in the trash, you could start a fire if you didn’t put it out right. So that could
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be No. You step on it. I don’t know. You may throw it in the trash.
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All the time. I’m just telling you. If you just, people are dumb. So this is a dumb thing where it’s
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fucking Nah.
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They’re doing it where there’s no trash anywhere near them. They’re throwing it down alleyways. They’re just doing a lot of the comedy store all the time. Comics are doing it. I’m like, come on, man.
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Come on, dudes.
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Don’t do that.
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I bet you it’s I bet you it’s, two hundred years for a fill filter to biodegrad. I
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would say at least If
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it’s ai styrofoam or some shah, it’s like Yeah. It’s some fiberglass or some shit.
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By the way, is that even better for you?
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Eighteen months to ten years.
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Eighteen months to ten years. That’s pretty vague.
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Yep. That’s which one they’re using.
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That’s AI. You know what I mean?
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Oh, it depends on which one. I’m sure they don’t all use Like Meh spirits probably have, like, hemp or something
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02:34:36
like that. Those fucking Yeah. Hippies.
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Hold on. Now, it’s cellulose.
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What? I
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don’t know. This is where we’re getting in this weird spot of AI. I was gonna bring that up. Google AI stuff fucks up all the time. Look on the screen. Like, it says 18 to ten years here. Right. Oh, yeah. I go right here. Are cigarettes biodegradable? No. They’re not biodegradable.
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They’re made of plastic called cellulose acetate, which can take up to ten years to break down, also leach toxic chemicals into the environment.
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02:35:04
But it does break down. It’s not biodegradable.
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02:35:07
So it breaks down. Yeah. It’s not Or I don’t It’s poison.
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It it just breaks into smaller toxic pieces. Yeah.
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Yeah. It breaks into poison. Also, if you’re smoking a filter and the filter’s got toxic chemicals
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02:35:19
Yeah. Exactly. And you’re
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heating it up.
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Photodegradable. It seems like a nice fun term they
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02:35:23
found. Photodegradable.
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02:35:24
But not biodegradable. What does that mean? Trap residues from smoke including arsenic, cadmium, and toluene. Toluene?
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02:35:32
Who knows? Yeah. But toluene? This is the issue with Ai. And I try not to even but it’s it’s contradicting itself and
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I was reading a thing where a professor was talking about the the issues that he’s having, grading papers and accusing people of using Ai. Yeah. And then it’s like, it’s just opened up this whole door
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Yeah.
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That they don’t know exactly how to deal with. Because you could get AI and write something and then you could write something similar. You just kinda ai twist it around a little bit like a joke thief would do. Yep. And then, you’re basically using AI to write your papers.
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But Ai think AI will sell that professor, AI detection software.
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02:36:07
Yeah. But if you do a good job of spinning the words around especially if you’re dealing with, like, historical facts or something that’s true, like AI is gonna lay it out for you. You have to do zero research. And if it’s, like, you know, you just print it in that order ai differently.
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I guess the bigger question is, does writing the term paper serve a value at this point if AI can just do it? Right. You know, I speak a lot of time learning cursive. I mean, what the fuck is that?
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It’s useless? The thing is, I don’t it’s ai, if you’re a student though, if you’re really trying to get the most out of your education, it’s like, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to get good grades? Are you really trying to get educated? If you’re trying to get educated, don’t cheat. Yeah. Actually figure it out. Yeah.
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Actually absorb the information and learn. But if you’re not really into that subject and that’s not really your thing and you really wanna get a degree in this, but you have to take course in that, like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you could, like, spend an hour working on something instead of sixteen hours.
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Yeah. Or if you wanna be a skateboarder and you you gotta have pipe outside, do have AI do the term paper and go fucking Yeah.
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You don’t have to read that fucking giant 1,400 page book.
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Well, this is good. This is also a bigger question about, like, our education and public schools and, like Dude,
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you’re gonna be in the matrix. You don’t need education. They’re gonna pluck it in, press a button, and you’re gonna be like, yo.
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02:37:27
Fully explained. Kung fu.
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That’s what it’s gonna be. Yeah. Yeah. Ai mean, I I really firmly believe that. I also believe it’s gonna be genetic engineering, so people are gonna be unrecognizable. I think whatever we have coming over the next hundred years is gonna make the last hundred years look like a joke. Right.
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The change of 1925 to, you know, 2025 is pretty extraordinary. It’s gonna be nothing compared to the change that we experienced by 2125.
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Do you think humans will always elevate themselves and speak to a crowd for laughs?
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That might be the only thing we have left.
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Because we they’ve always said it’s prostitution and com and And comedy. Comedy where the, you know, the court jester and the and the prostitute. Ai was curious if we think in the future vatsal remain as well. I hope so.
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I hope so. Yeah. It would suck. Well, definitely memes. Memes will probably get better. That’s a good form of comedy.
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That’s true.
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There’ll be some kind of comedy. There’s always gonna be human folly Yeah. As long as there’s humans. And Ai I don’t know how long that’s gonna last. Right. That’s the real concern. So we we might be obsolete. And we might be giving birth to this obsolete thing willingly, signing up for AI.
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So if we become obsolete, then that means the machines will have to also figure out how to provide energy to itself. Yeah. That’d be easy. But that’ll be easy. They’ll learn to just plug this into this. They’ll do
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02:38:49
it way better than us.
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Just mine the thing and
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then burn
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the thing and then right.
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02:38:52
Yeah. They’ll probably harness some shit we didn’t even think about. Right. It’ll be far more efficient. Right. No carbon footprint. Enough to worry about things breaking down anymore.
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And then we’ll just slowly die off or whatever.
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And they’ll put up a shield system to protect us from asteroids. They’ll figure that out.
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02:39:07
Right. Yeah. What’s that movie with where Sylvester Stallone lives in the bot in the basement of the Earth or whatever?
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02:39:15
Judge Dredd?
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Yeah. Maybe it’s Judge Dredd. And, like,
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I I am the law.
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But I feel like it’s all these people who refuse the advancement of technology. Right? There’s gonna be some of that.
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02:39:24
Yeah. There’ll be a lot of people living in the Amazon Yeah. Still eating monkeys. Yeah. But the the rest the rest of the electrified world is gonna be very strange.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But, hopefully, we’ll still crack jokes, Michael.
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That would be great. Hopefully.
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Alright. Should we wrap this up? Your book, tell everybody
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My book is called. You copy? Ai dude. There it is. Thank you. I sai Lucky loser. The publisher’s gonna kill me. I said I was gonna present it to you on the show.
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Whoopsies. We got a photo of it. Doesn’t matter. Adventures in Tennis and Comedy Yeah. Lucky loser. Get me a copy, and I’ll put it out there in the bookshelf. Get a lot of books out there.
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02:39:59
We should have sent you one. If you don’t, I’ll get you one. Yeah. So the book starts when my brother gave me a tennis racket, for Christmas when I was four. Nice. And my dream was to be a professional tennis player. And we did it, but only to eight hundred and sixty four in the world. That’s the that’s my highest world ranking.
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Turned into a chick. He could’ve dominated.
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02:40:19
That that’s that’s the point of the book. But it it it’s, the story is how I went from pro tennis to comedy, and it’s fascinating and silly and a lot of failure. Talking a lot about the struggles of being alone in both of those professions. Tennis, you’re saloni, problem
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solving. Myself.
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In comedy, you’re alone in problem solving. And,
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02:40:41
Well, you’re a great comic. You’re a very funny guy, and you’ve always been very cool to hang out with. Thanks. And I’m really excited that you’re at the club this weekend. Are there any tickets available?
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I got an email yesterday from my management that all shows are sold out.
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So if anybody wants to go, the best case thing is you go and wait at the front. And sometimes people don’t show up, which does happen, especially with South by Southwest. It’s crazy parking and, but, I’m psyched. I’m psyched to see you at the club. I’m I’m coming this weekend. I’ll come hang out.
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Dude, thank you. That would be awesome. My pleasure. Thanks for having me and, congrats on, the club and all that’s happening. I appreciate it.
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Thank you, and congrats on everything.
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Thank you.
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Congrats on the Daily Show. That’s awesome. Alright. Bye, everybody.
