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#2273 – Adam Curry Podcast Episode Summary
In this podcast episode, the discussion revolves around the evolution and impact of podcasting, with a focus on local content creation. The speaker reflects on the early days of podcasting, mentioning a conversation with Steve Jobs about integrating podcasts into iTunes, which marked a significant milestone in the medium’s growth. The episode emphasizes the importance of local podcasts, suggesting that communities can support and benefit from locally produced content, as traditional local media like radio and newspapers have diminished.
The episode also touches on the challenges faced by podcasters, particularly regarding music licensing. The speaker explains the complexities of playing music on podcasts due to various rights and entities involved, which has hindered opportunities for music exposure through this medium.
A recurring theme is the potential for podcasts to fill the void left by the consolidation of local media. The speaker advocates for the creation of community-focused podcasts, suggesting that this could be a viable way to make a living while serving local audiences.
The episode features a sponsorship segment for ZipRecruiter, highlighting its efficiency in helping employers find quality candidates quickly.
An actionable insight from the episode is the encouragement for individuals to start local podcasts, leveraging the “value for value” model, which allows listeners to financially support creators directly through podcast apps. This model is seen as a way to sustain podcasting efforts and foster community engagement.
Overall, the episode underscores the transformative power of podcasting, its challenges, and its potential to revitalize local media landscapes.
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#2273 – Adam Curry Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Ai meh day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. That’s
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bullshit. I never got it until this year, but that’s what they say.
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That’s what
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they say. You get it within a couple years, you get it, and then all of a bryden, you got it. Yeah. I don’t know what the
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fuck they are, but it’s not bad.
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I could hear it the other day.
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I I heard it. Stuffiness? Yeah. Yeah. I heard you. Yeah. I had it for, like, four days. I’ve had stuffiness. Yeah. But the thing is, like, when I work out, I feel great. The way I can really tell, like, the way I judge whether or not I should even work out is when I get in the sauna and the cold plunge.
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If I feel tired and weak when I’m in there, then I know something’s going on. It’s not as simple as allergies.
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So I thought for ten years, I had the Austin allergy. For ten years, it was so bad. I go out to dinner, even when we moved out to Fredericksburg, we come into Austin. I thought it was Austin. Ai serious. I like, Austin has given me this we go out to dinner, start eating, and then, yeah, my nose, my eyes, everything just and I have to always excuse myself, always have to have tissues in my back pocket.
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Then I got my teeth done, which we talked about, I think, the last time Ai was here. And, Maverick, my periodontist, he did one of these three sixty MRIs. He says, you know, ma’am, you’ve got some low level infection here, and, that could be responsible for a whole bunch of stuff.
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Now Ai had hearing aids for five years. So when he did the initial extraction, I think I took one or two shows off, and then I went back in the studio, put my headphones on, and I’m like, woah. I thought I’d hit something, you know, a volume knob or something. Came back.
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Your hearing came back.
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Because this was infected, and it was basically clogging up my sai, and that was affecting the, the hearing.
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Yeah. And a mouth infection like that’s very dangerous, isn’t it?
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People have no idea how important oral health is. It’s really, really critical. And, also, I feel better because, you know, I’m not fighting infection continuously. That’s crazy.
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And, yeah How did it all start? Like, what what was going on with your teeth that, like, made all these assumptions?
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I had a bad start in life when, when I was two or three were living in Uganda, and my parents would put me to sleep with a chocolate cookie. So I had kind of a bad start, you know, and I had a lot of work. I had, you know, just tons of fillings on my baby teeth. Everything was messed up. Then I had the big outboard headgear, which really traumatized me for life taking that to school, you know. Oh, ai. Ai. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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It was bad. And about, meh years ago, maybe a little bit more, I went to the dentist here in in Austin. And, you know, he’s like, you know, we really gotta start doing stuff. We gotta start looking at repairing. And then this dentist arya hitting on me and texting me and, you know, I’m like, that’s not ai. Guy or girl? Guy. Damn.
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Like ai, no. No. No. No.
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No. So and I knew that there was a Pandora’s boxing ai. Wild is that?
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Like, what a what a
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risky move. It was so dumb. Like
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You’re a a married straight guy. It’s like, yeah. I think I can get
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him, though. We can get we could he
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could be on our team. That is such a a man move. It’s such a thing that men would do. It’s so stupid.
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You’re like, I’m here with some buddies of mine, you know, sending a picture. I’m like, no. No. No. No. No. Somewhere else. Shirtless. I’m
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fucking wearing kinda wet. Yeehaw.
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I’m not going back. I’m good. And then, Tina and I, you know, we got together. We moved out to Fredericksburg, and she and she’s real big on, you know, preventative anything. You know, her car has the oil everything on ai. Everything’s all sai. And her teeth, of course, are impeccable.
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And she
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That’s not a good fit for you. Total. Dude. Ai labor.
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You have I have a credit score of 350. Oh, no. I didn’t have credit card. Ai was just cash, you know, like, I didn’t care. Like, you know, I had cash flow. Everything’s good. I don’t care. She straightened me out. Oh, yeah. Oh, big time.
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You know, we we
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pay Disorganized men very much need organized women. Yes. You just can’t have one that turns into your mom.
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Oh, no. No. That was my that was my first ai.
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That does happen with some of them. Some of them when you give them the reins and they start telling you what to do, all of a sudden then it becomes very non sexy.
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I will say props to my first wife. She kept me that was the height of my show business fame, MTV. She kept me out of trouble. I I did not I did not participate.
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Sai was a
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good mom. She was a good meh. And she’s a good mom to our daughter, you know, so Yeah. For sure.
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Well, you know, you change, they change, you need a different kind of a mom.
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Things things change. Things change. Yeah. So then, you know, I I went through it. Yeah. It was ai, and that’s also when I stopped smoking, you know, because Mhmm. Maverick called me up. He said, hey, man. I’m gonna be operating on you in a week. You know? Could you do me a favor and stop putting fire in your mouth? And I’ve been smoking weed and tobacco since I was 15, and I quit at that moment.
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I haven’t it didn’t ever I mean, I vape like a like a crazy horse.
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But Well, that’s not good. Good, is it?
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Well, that’s the question.
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This is you and I have gone over this, and we will go back to it.
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It’s sai nicotine, delivery device. Yes. That’s what it is.
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We’ll get to that.
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Yeah. Sure.
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But
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sai so just cleaning out the infections, what was going on that that was fucking up your hearing? It was ai the the whole area was inflamed?
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It’s right by your sai, and so that you know, everything’s connected. You know, if you hold your nose, you can hear Right. You hear differently. So Right. Whatever it was doing and it literally just a couple days after he extracted though extracted more than that, but after he extracted those teeth, it just came back.
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And Ai didn’t have horrible hearing loss, but it was enough where I was sick of saying, I’m sorry, darling. What’d you say? I’m ai. And then the moment you get to, like, I didn’t hear her. I’ll ask her later. That’s when I went, no. I gotta get hearing aids.
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I don’t wanna I don’t and it’s one of the biggest reasons men, get depressed is when they can’t hear and they ai of withdraw and it’s a it’s Really? Yeah. It’s oh, it’s a real crisis. Yeah. Anyone you need to go if you think just just have your ears tested anyway. Why not?
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I mean, you get your eyes tested, get your ears tested, get your teeth taken care of.
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So they find out your ears are not good. Do they ever check for infections? No. Because it seems like now you should get
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in the medical book. He thank you. We actually, he’s been writing a paper on this for this very reason, and it’s only because he did the three sixty MRI
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Mhmm.
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That he saw it. And he and he also knew what to look for. It’s his expertise. You know, he’s he’s when I met this guy, I was ai, he’s, you know, he’s young. He’s, like, in his thirties. I’m like, so why did you choose this profession? He says, I like operating. I really love doing that stuff. I’m like, okay. You you sound cool.
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Ai turns out he’s a pilot, you know, so we become friends. But, yeah, he he says people have no ai. And so he has been working on a paper to publish about this very thing. It’s just not known. I talked about it on the podcast sana people from all over the world, like, really, man? You know, I’ve been having hearing issues. Meh an MRI.
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Get a three sixty MRI of your head.
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And the the goofy fucking solution that someone came up with along the way was putting fluoride in the water. Mhmm. Which is so goddamn insane that you’re taking a neurotoxin sana you’re putting it in the water. But it and again, like, I’m I don’t wanna take even a political position on this. I just wanna look at this.
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I wanna look at this from a a human lens. There’s something that people do where even if something is obviously stupid, if it’s a part of a system and there’s enough air quotes experts that have endorsed this, regardless of the fact we’ve seen time and time again throughout history that experts are compromised, experts are you could put in you could have a court case for a murder and bring in experts that will tell you he definitely did it, and experts would tell you he definitely didn’t do it.
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So we know this for a fact. But still, people argue on the side of the experts, and I’ve seen this about Florida. And it it’s so mind boggling. There are conclusive studies that show a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride in the local water
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Mhmm.
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And lower IQs. Mhmm. And it’s a neurotoxin. We know it’s bad for you in large doses and yet there are fucking people out there with college degrees who read the New York Ai who think they’re sensible people that will get angry if you wanna remove this neurotoxin from water because look at all the strides it’s done in preventing tooth decay.
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Yeah. And you just wanna say, hey, meh. Fuck you.
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This is stupid. I went to dinner at Mitch’s house.
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I I call him over.
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I’m a
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little upset. I go No.
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No. It’s okay because because we’re sitting down. It’s my wife, his wife. You know, he he has a one of those houses right on the airport with his plane rolls out of the garage, you know, the hanger.
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Out of touch.
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Exactly. I paid for that. I’m ai, I paid for that hangar. And and we’re sitting down, and we’re having a good time. You know, we’re talking about stuff. He says, so what do you think about Florida? I said, should not be in the water. He’s like, you’re wrong. You don’t know what you and this is only a couple years ago. And now he’s come back and he said, oh, man.
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This is I was this
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was apologize?
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Yeah. Of course. This was drilled into my head, like Yeah. But what I understand is fluoride is a byproduct of aluminum production. And a lot of this you know, they had this fluoride waste product, basically, they needed to get rid of. And from what I understand, it was Alcoa.
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I could be wrong, but I think it was Alcoa who made these deals. And who knows how they set that up with the American Dental Association, and that’s how fluoride got into our water, and we got this kind of sai of it’s good for you. I knew it was wrong in, February in February, and there was a book that came out called Legacy of Ashes.
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It was written by a guy called Tim Ai, who used to be New York Ai. And it was all about the Ai. And it’s a great book because my uncle is in it many times, Donald Gregg. He’s still with us. He’s 95 or 96, and he was really high up in the CIA. He was, you know, part of OSS back in the day.
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And in it, it talks about how the how the agents would go in, fluoridate the enemy’s camp water sai they could go in at ai, and they could they were docile, and they could pull them out and they could ai of attack them. And I said, uncle Don, is this true? He says, yeah. Pretty much how I remember it. I’m like, well, of course.
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This so the neurotoxin has been used in actual warfare in actual warfare in the water.
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To make people docile.
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Yeah. Docile and
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And then the argument is so dumb because, you know, my friend Eddie Bravo had a great point. He said, when you get toothpaste, do you ever see toothpaste that says fluoride free? Why would they say that and advertise it
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Tom’s.
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If fluoride wasn’t bad for you? Why would they do that? Like, why would that be a selling point? Mhmm. If we’ve always looked for
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fluoride in toothpaste, my whole life Mhmm. Crest. Oh, fluoride. Got it.
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You know, when you’re going through the CVS, ai,
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meh whole life.
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Mhmm. Crest. Oh, fluoride. Got it. You know, when you’re going through the CVS, you’re grabbing stuff and throwing it back. Yep. It’s always fluoride. You’re always looking for fluoride. That’s what kills the fucking germ. I don’t want cavities. I don’t have to go to the dentist.
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Yeah.
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Give me that fluoride. But they’re selling toothpaste without fluoride. Why is that? And the guy who sai saying it to like, he had this look at us, he sai ai he was trapped. He said he’s just trapped. Ai, so you don’t think fluoride is good for you? It’s like one of those things. Like, that’s just what he just said. No. Just brush your fucking teeth.
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Yeah.
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It’s really that simple.
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As a kid, did you get those trays at the dentist? Do you remember those?
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What are the trays?
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It was and so it would be that so we’re gonna do fluoride treatment on you. Oh, yeah. They did.
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And it
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was ai, it’s it’s, it’s fruity, you know, and and this gunk will be dripping back in your throat. You’re gagging with this horrible it’s ai, that’s not And
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you go to school. Ai get a d in English because you’re fucking stupid. Pretty much the story
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of my life, Joe.
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Yeah. It’s it’s so bad. It’s really bad for you, and it’s not necessary. And we’re being co opted by something and someone. And I think we looked this up on the podcast, Jamie. Didn’t it come out of there was some town in Texas, I believe, that had naturally fluoridated water, which occasionally, you know, just We
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have it in the hill country. The water is definitely naturally fluoridated. Yeah. This is in
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the ground.
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There’s natural levels of different minerals and there’s different stuff that and this one area had a a fairly high natural level of fluoride and these people had, like, great oral hygiene. Whether or not that was a convenient study that they pointed to or convenient case they pointed to to make the argument to get rid of all that ai.
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You know, this is ai, you gotta look many layers into all this ai of stuff, because they’ve been throwing fluoride in the water for how long and how much money has been spent throwing fluoride in the water and how many people have, like, built mansions and have fucking, you know, Mercedes Benz, they’re tooling around them because they’ve been throwing fluoride in the water.
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And that’s that’s a deep system to try to untangle after fifty, sixty years
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of doing this. It’s the petrochemical industry. That’s where all our medicines come from. Ram Mhmm. I was watching the Grammys, and I don’t really What’s wrong with you? I know. Well, I usually watch for the Satan segment. I would say, oh, okay. There it is. There’s the Illuminati.
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There’s the There’s always one.
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There’s the they didn’t have one. They had crazy beautiful women in nice dresses.
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Trump is president.
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I’m nervous. Oh, no. Presidents are important for the culture.
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It’s very important for the Sana. But the People. They’re in trouble.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They’re in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus is making a comeback, man. They’re in
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Ai. And
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place that doesn’t have a basement, by the way.
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We’re reliably informed. And I hadn’t really watched network television a lot, and there’s a lot of commercial breaks. But the first ten all had a pharmaceutical product which had never heard of, a name I can’t remember, and side effects literally included death. I’m like, what is going on with this? And, like, ask your doctor. I’m like, do I have this? Should I have this? Do I want this?
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I mean, is this going on with me? And people are all happy in the commercials. They’re like, look. My skin looks good, and I’m happy, and I have a beautiful family. It’s almost like we used to, you know, sell cars. Now they’re just selling the pharmaceuticals.
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Well, that will be an interesting thing if RFK Junior gets in place. If RFK Junior gets in place and they stop this Advertising. Advertising on we are one of two countries on Earth that allows yeah. New Zealand and New Zealand’s far more restrictive than us. We should be really restrictive about this because advertising works, you know. And there’s advertising that doesn’t bother me at all, like Chevrolet Corvette. You know, it’s okay. It’s fine.
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But when it can give you bloody diarrhea and suicidal ideology
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Sana leakage.
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Yeah.
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And you you’re just fucked up in the head and you’re depressed and, like, you don’t know why, but now your zits are gone. Like, hey. Slow down. Yeah. That was not in that commercial with the the lady dancing in the field with her child and the people at the picnic, and they’re all smiling and laughing and having a good time together.
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Yeah. That looked like fun. Like, what where’s that part?
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Well, of course, you know, this was they tried they’ve all tried all kinds of things to stop this and, you know, first amendment comes up, although we have stopped, tobacco ai, and there’s all kinds of things that have been done throughout the years. But what happened with television is all the money. I mean, really, sixty, seventy, maybe 80% of all the advertising income is from pharmaceutical companies.
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That’s why there’s also no reporting. Like, we’re not gonna bite the hand that feeds us.
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We need the real problem. That’s that’s That’s the real problem. The real problem is that these news organizations are not independent. Not just news.
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Not just news. Everything.
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Everything. They’re not independent. Like, even television shows. Like, could you imagine if let’s say a network has a prominent reliable source of information for, you know, people that believe them. And they’re sponsored by pharmaceutical drug companies, but then they also have a crime show
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Yeah.
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On and this crime show wants to do a thing about an evil guy who promotes a vaccine that winds up killing a bunch of people, and they hide the data, and then they arrest him at the end of the the end of the show. Like, no fucking way.
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That’s not getting meh. No green light for you.
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Simple rewrites to the script. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. This is a bad guy from, Guatemala. Let’s let’s come with this. Because that’s fucking he’s definitely not from here. He’s definitely not from Moderna, and they definitely aren’t working in conjunction with the government to develop this thing, and the government’s profiting off of it. That’s not real.
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Well, we’ve I mean, I’d say that we’re in the season of reveal. I’ve been saying this for about a year now, because and it’s really happening real quick with what we’re uncovering and starting to understand. I haven’t seen your your talk with that band.
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Dropped some fucking seeds yesterday. If we’re we’re in the season of flowers, it’s it’s he’s blooming today because Yeah. He was so nervous yesterday. Jamie was talking about it before, like ai was making all these tweets like they’re gonna kill him. Probably yeah. It’s probably been discussed.
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Well, I I think it’s way too far beyond. And I think, you know, I look at, Leave It to Beaver. I call her who who’s the the new press secretary? She’s 27 years old.
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Oh, yeah. She’s good, though.
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She’s fantastic. She’s younger than my daughter.
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She’s a a ai. I don’t think you should say leave it to beaver.
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Ai sorry. I’m sorry.
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That’s just that’s how
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I remember her last name. Alright. Caroline, leave it. I think it’s leave it. Thanks, Joe.
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Thanks. Thank you. Sai shah because we’re old enough to remember when beaver was a vagina. Most kids are like, I don’t even know what the fuck they’re talking about.
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Leave it to beaver.
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What are you talking about? Name for a ai, a beaver. Because dudes didn’t really have any derogatory names for dicks. It’s just dick is the worst one. Like, shah, your dick. Put your dick away, you fucking weirdo.
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You know what
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I mean? It was like ai but ever
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Well, we only had pecker.
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Yeah. You
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know, it’s like But pecker’s kinda cute. Yeah. Exactly. It’s just it was just a pecker.
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Yeah. There’s no, like, real bad names for dick other than dick.
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But she comes out, and she does this whole list of USAID, which is very little money. But Sai ai our president is very smart. He he’s showing us things that enables people like Mike Benz and you and I to have these conversations about you know, because it’s not ideological that USAID, which is not Sai.
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This is ai one of these
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Mhmm.
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One of these ai ops right up top. Like, you know, Federal Express is not owned by the government. Federal Reserve is not owned by the government. USAID is the agency for international development, not aid. And we see on television, there goes another pallet onto the c one thirty, aid, US aid from the American people.
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Oh, we’re being nice.
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Yeah. We’re being we’re being nice to people.
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We should be nice. We’re the nice people of the world.
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But, what these and I’m sure Mike talked about this, you know, like LGBTQ. These these dance parties and things, if you look at I’m a look at these countries. Like, these are countries where we wanna keep them away from Russia, overthrow the incumbents Yes. And the way to garner support is to and I really love how they added the queue. That just became so clear to me all of a sudden.
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If you sponsor LGBTQ, these are outcast. These are people who feel that they’ve been marginalized. Then you add a q ai, wait a minute. I can be queer. I’m different. I’m odd. You bring more people in. Then you can bring the anarchists in.
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You can get a. They have the a’s in it.
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Oh, yeah. The a’s is so crazy.
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Everything. But the a’s don’t even have a dog in the fight.
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But that’s the point. You want them to come to the party. Come to the party. You’re allowed to the party. That’s why so long now. And I saw this, you know, AFD in Germany. You know, this is the the extreme right party, and they wanted, you know, to slow or remove immigration.
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And, so now that there was a protest, against the AFD, you know, some they’re getting ready to vote now. And there’s a hundred thousand people there. Ai like, wow. I do so I thought can I know people in Germany? I have friends in Germany. They really are sick and tired of this immigration stuff.
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So where are these people coming from? And in the news report, right up front, there’s a dude in a blonde wig with ai shadow saying, we just wanna get along. We just want can’t we just be diverse? I’m like, that’s the psyop. He he’s talking about himself.
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So he wants to feel included, which, by the way, in America, you can do whatever you sana, call yourself whatever you want. People really don’t have an issue with that. But they’ve just taken this and abused these people into their political agendas all over the world, and, of course, it sparked something here in The States.
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If you look the Democrat party, there’s they’re gonna die on this hill. They’re still ai, oh, no LGBTQ. They’re taking away our rights because they know they can mobilize people to do that. And then you can throw in Palestine and all kinds of people Did
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you see the city council thing in Worcester, Massachusetts yesterday that’s gone viral today?
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Which one is that?
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David, did
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you see it?
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I’m seeing it right now on Twitter.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pull this bitch up.
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I haven’t
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seen it. There’s a there’s a compilation of these people, like, absolutely freaking out. The best one’s the compilation, if you could find the compilation. But it’s all these LBGT people show up at this city council meeting to say there’s, like, a trans genocide. It’s one of those dude.
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We’re sana round up in concentration camps. Yeah. Five minutes saloni. Yeah. Just give me start from the beginning.
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Give me give
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Can you wrap up, please?
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Yes. I can. If you say that you’re afraid of Trump and that’s why you don’t want city to be the city to be a space safe space for trans people, you better prepare for trans people to make this a very unsafe space.
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Oh, brother.
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I’m shaking right now. I don’t want to be
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here. Please.
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I’m sorry. Am I taking too long pleading for my life? You remembered how many children I have and how many and that two of them are trans.
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There it is. Yeah.
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I speak as both the b and the t in the LGBT. It’s both.
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I
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am multiply disabled. I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder that causes me immense physical pain. I, I’m on the autism speak, and I have narcolepsy, and I couldn’t drive myself here. So I had to hide from my driver that I was in drag, which is not an easy thing to do in drag.
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I do not want to be here. It’s my day off. I do not want to be in your DMs. I do not want to be in your email inboxes. I do not want my creativity writing diss tracks like Kendrick. I don’t want to spend an hour applying glitter on my face so that you will hear and see me.
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What? I want you to
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listen to me.
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Let us remember that the knocking is going. No. That’s enough. So it’s like, you made me put glitter on my face, you piece of shah, because everyone knows when you go to court, you have to have glitter.
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These people these people need hugs. They need love. I pray for them. Yeah. The biggest way to psychologically manipulate people is or there’s three ways. Old people, puppies, and children. And the whole and I followed this. It started around 02/2012, not coincidental when you know about Smith Mundt, the Smith Mundt Act?
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So that’s you know, it was a law that was put in since the church commission. You can’t propagandize the American people. Defense department and others went to the government and said, well, you know, like, we’re on the Internet now. We might accidentally, you know, push some propaganda on people.
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It started with bullying in schools. I know because John Dvorak and I, we followed it on no agenda. Started with bullying, then it was, we needed anti bullying laws. And we’re literally going, like, what happened to sticks and stones or break my bones or punch the bully in his nose? No. No. No.
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Then the teachers, and then we got hate speech laws, not actually laws, but, you know, hate speech punishments. And this kept building up until you guaranteed parents through the American Medical Association, the Pediatric Society, all of these different, trade groups that if you don’t transition your child, that child will commit suicide.
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Right. And that’s just that is a horrible thing they’ve done. Think about these parents who may or may not one day wake up and go, what have I done? What have I done?
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Well, there was someone was talking about this the other day that this is the real problem is that so many parents have committed to doing this to their children, and they they cannot face the reality of what they’ve done. And so they’re gonna dig their heels in forever. Mhmm. And vote democrat. About gender affirming care. Yes.
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But the thing is, that’s a small percentage of people in the general population.
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Thank God.
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And thank God. But they’re they’re overrepresented in the fact that they make it their whole ai. And so they they’re they’re very loud and very vatsal, and then they become a political beach ball. Ai I talk about beach ball.
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I heard you talk about that with Bridget.
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That’s what it is. Totally.
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The political beach balls at
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a concert. They chuck them up in the air, so we always have something fight about. So we’re not paying attention to, like, the Sai stuff or a lot of the stuff that’s, like, really important. And this is, just a a part of this intertangled web of ai that’s been running our our culture. I mean, I would say our government, but it’s it’s everything.
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Right? Culture.
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Yeah. So it’s the government has established its hooks in us and put fear and law and rules. And the more law and the more rules, the better because the more likely you’re gonna break a few of them, and then you’re gonna shut the fuck up. Yeah. And they they’ve got these fucking things everywhere. And it’s just allowing them to run this mafia business.
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And there’s a bunch of people that are reasonable educated people that have Stockholm Syndrome. Ai, they they don’t want to admit that even their people, their cherished heroes ai Obama was a part of this.
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Mhmm.
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Big part. And these all these people that you think of as progressive Democrats, they were all a part of it. And fortunately, today, we have the convenient access to YouTube instantaneously where you could watch Obama in 02/2003 say some very MAGA things. Or you could watch Hillary Clinton go more MAGA than MAGA.
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About deportation.
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Yes. Yep. Yep. Yes. And that if you stay, you have to pay a stiff fine. Mhmm. I mean, the whole thing is it’s cyclical. Right? Like, this is why the left is now supporting war and censorship. It’s it’s not real. It’s not that there’s a good group of kind, compassionate, educated people and a bunch of fucking buffoons who are racist who wanna bring that back to Confederate flag.
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Yeah.
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That’s not what’s going on. No. There’s people that are nice, kind people that also understand the value of hard work and reality and kindness and also sternness and rule of law and you can’t just let violent criminals out in the street. And, hey, maybe you should do some actual rehabilitation with the fucking billions of dollars you make in the in bryden industrial complex when there’s no rehabilitation.
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Like, no real concerted efforts to completely change these people in
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studies. It’s sai mess.
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It can be done. It can be done. And it probably could begin done with ai psych with psychedelic drugs. Ai, it probably can do some things with people, especially non violent criminals that are trying to figure out, like, why have I been stealing from people my whole life? Like, what the fuck is wrong with me that I unless they’re a legitimate ai, they have no empathy.
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There’s there’s people that can be kind of woken up to why they’re in this horrific pattern of continual abuse in their ai, and there’s there’s ways to do it. And you know, Rick Perry has been really, like, brave in this case because, you know, he’s a former Republican governor of Texas and
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That’s right.
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And now he’s advocating for Ibogaine therapy, particularly for veterans, for guys who come over, they’ve seen the most horrific shit, their brain is in a shambles, and they wanna do something. And they they they have no no help in these pills that just dull their mind and make them feel detached from reality and all these fucking antidepressants and things they give them.
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And they they wanna fucking end their ai. And they can go and get therapy that it cures eighty percent of them with one dose, and it’s ai ninety five percent with two doses. It’s fucking nuts, man. And we’ve been hiding this because because of the sweeping Schedule one Drug Act of 1970 that was put in place directly by Nixon to go after his political opponents.
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It was directly put in place to demonize the anti ram movement and demonize the civil rights party and the Black Panthers and anybody who was a problem with the government. So they just said, let’s just make all these things that these people are taking on a regular basis completely illegal.
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Not only just schedule one, like, with no medical use whatsoever. Things that people have been using for thousands and thousands of years, and it’s all the same shit. It’s all psy ops. It’s all psy ops. Have you ever heard of the audience effect?
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30:43
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Well, the number one thing that happened around that time, of course, during Kennedy is we realized that television was a big force. Television and radio. They got that handsome guy. And they got well, he and if you listen to some of the debates, like, you know, it’s it would sound on the radio like Nixon did better.
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I mean, it’s it’s it’s it’s amazing how this worked between radio and television, but then newspapers, we know the intelligence agencies were all writing stories. I mean, you look at CNN, you still see ex ex CIA guy shows up. A little story, when I saw you sitting at the inauguration, and I think I texted you, I’m like, dude, I can’t believe it. I see you sitting there.
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32:48
You’re texting me American flag emojis and stuff ai and then you you and Ram, I’m like, oh, look at him. He’s in a tuxedo. And I thought sai my in 1983, I was still a teenager, and, I I grew up in Amsterdam, Socialist country. The airwaves were controlled by the government.
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It was horrible. It was almost like Russia. Your phone was a gray phone, and that was your phone. You couldn’t get a different phone. You could it was illegal to unplug it from the wall.
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And I was doing pirate radio at a place called Radio Decibel in Amsterdam, and
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we were playing You were Christian Slater.
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In a way.
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In a
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way in a way In a way oh, yeah. Yeah. What was that what was that movie called?
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I
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don’t know. Maybe it was called Pirate Radio?
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But it was crazy. They were trying to arrest him. Remember?
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Well, so we all got arrested several ai, and we were playing 12 inch imports from your Chicago warehouse.
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Arrested several ai.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, they would always get they would always come and arrest us.
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Behind
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you? We we literally had the station name on the door. People would come around. We’d be smoking weed. We’re hanging out. You know, we weren’t making any money. We were basically paying to do it, you know. And we had this huge antenna on the roof.
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34:00
Ever come up when you got hired by MTV? Did they get nervous about that? Like, do they have to do a background check? I said, this guy’s got a record.
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No. Ai I’ll remind me to tell you my Sai story in a minute. So no. But this is 1983, and I and I felt it was so first, I was a gawky, awkward kid. I got ticks, you know, I got the wrong hair. Every I got the wrong moped. Everything’s wrong. But on the radio, people are like, wow. And I was doing it in English. You can do that in Amsterdam.
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If you’re like, wow. It’s so cool you got that black guy on your station. I’m like, I’m black? How cool. So I was I was John Holden, the 23 year old black guy who drives a Harley. But the point was, it was liberating.
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I could speak my mind and, you know, everything felt so stifling. Now we go forward 1993, and I’m on MTV. I’m the hair of generation x. I’m on z one hundred in New York, number one station. And I’m also on the Internet, you know, I’d set up MTV.com. It was very, very sai.
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We had dial up modems at the ai, and it was so restrictive. You can’t they let me do my own material, but they had censorship called a line producer. Like, now we gotta burn that segment. You said something bad about Richard Marx. Oh, you said something that was off color about Madonna. Oh, we can’t do that.
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The radio was the same. It was, you know, like, read the liner card, you know, and then always end with z 100. And there was a a guy at Sun Microsystems in San Francisco, and he said, Adam, I see what you’re doing with MTV.com on the web that’s gonna send you a computer. So he sends me this big Sun Speak workstation. He said What year? Ninety three.
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So this is pre Windows ’95. So this is Yeah.
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It’s pre yeah. Go ahead.
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That’s right. Windows, what is it? 3.8
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something like that? Oh, Solaris OS. It’s it’s Unix, basically.
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35:40
So it wasn’t Windows back then. Right? Like, what came before Windows nine? It was I had
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a Meh. No. I had a an early Ai Apple two. Three point one. That’s what it was. Yeah. It was yeah. 3.1. And an Apple two. I was more Apple guy at the time. And and ai and so I hooked it up to my 56 k ai and dial in. He says, watch this.
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And he
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says and I’m on the phone with him. He says, watch this. And up on my screen pops a little player, and it’s and he’s streaming in PC. We didn’t have MP3s back then. PCM, pulse code modulation, nine inch nails. I’m like, this is broadcasting. I’m going to figure out how we use this thing for broadcasting, because think about how we can use this outside of all the systems.
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And so 02/2003, now we’re ten years later, I’ve been very involved with RSS feeds and blogs, and I see my first iPad. It’s like speak, crackle, pop. Hold on a second. This is amazing. We can combine this is a radio. This isn’t this is not not a music ai, it’s radio.
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So I cobbled together this program that basically takes this RSS feed and then puts a program onto, you know, as a so the show was an album and then each track was an episode number. And then I immediately start doing a show. I start you know, what I do is just try meh people involved.
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That’s how Daily Source Code started because I was trying to get software developers in. And then two years later, three years later, Steve Jobs is having a private conversation with me, about putting this into into the ai and making it official, making a podcasting thing in iTunes.
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And I’m like, this is so perfect because now you have this RSS feed which you control. No one else can control what you do with your RSS feed, and you can anybody can slurp that up and subscribe to your radio show. And then twenty years later, I see the the president of The United States wrapping up his campaign with Joe Rogan on a podcast completely being himself, being a dude for by the way, props for you sticking to your guns.
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I love that you did that. Now it’s gotta be here. No restrictions on time.
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Well, he didn’t impose any. He was more than willing to do it exactly how I do it.
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He understands it. But at that moment, then I see you sitting there. I’m like, we just broke the elite messaging machine. Phase one complete.
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All because of you, dog.
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No. No. You, dog. You, dog, man.
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But you
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were glory to God. I I I think I was just you. I I always
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give you your props.
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Ai think you were the first. I was just a vessel. It’s it makes sense to me now.
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Well, they I’m just a vessel too. I think that’s the case with all of it. Absolutely.
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I say
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that to the guys at my comedy club, you know, like, well, they’re always, like, so thankful that I built this comedy club. I’m like, I think this thing built itself. I think it was just I was a thing that it did through me. It caught me because it knew that, you know, I was capable of doing it Mhmm. And impulsive enough and and brash enough to, like, say, fuck it.
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Let’s just dump a bunch of money in this spot and see what happens.
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You were given gifts. I was given gifts. And you stuck with your gifts. And and I know you’re a very generous guy. I know you help a lot of people with all not monetary necessarily, but just helping them, getting them on their feet, you know, ai, even, you know, Parker. I’m like, can I bring this kid? He’s a big fan. You’re like, absolutely. Bring him in. You you’re a gracious guy.
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And so when you get whatever word it is to build a comedy club, you did.
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I think you have to do that. I think that’s the the universe is testing you. And if you if you pay attention to yourself, you’ll feel ai what’s the right thing to do. Ai, what’s the thing what is the greedy impulsive thing to do? What is ai the miserly thing to sai vatsal. It’s my money. Save it all.
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You know, that’s the the, you know That
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usually doesn’t amount. Usually doesn’t end well for most people.
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It’s just it’s bad for you too because it’s I always talk about this in terms of careers, ai, and and I really try to put this in young comics ai. There’s an impulse that you will have when someone’s doing better than you and you’ll you’ll be angry at them. It is a bitter, pathetic, jealous, normal instinct that people have.
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The enemy. The enemy talking to you.
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It’s just you have to recognize what that is. What that is is you have a desire to be doing the same thing. This person is doing this thing. They are in the movie. They are on the TV show. They are headlining at the club, and you feel bad because it’s not you. So you decide that they are bad.
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And so you start looking at them as a source of negativity towards you, and you don’t do all the logical objective reasoning that allows you to go, oh, no, no, no, no. They didn’t do anything wrong. It’s just me. And then those people who get really super big and famous ai get very defensive and very elitist because they do understand that people are mad at them now.
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So then they’re like, fuck those people. Yeah. Those people are fucking losers.
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Yeah.
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And it’s bad for everybody. It’s bad for everybody. The correct way to do it is to go, wow. Look at what this person has accomplished. That’s fucking amazing. That’s inspiring. I wanna do something like that with my life.
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Which is what America used to be. People would come to a yeah.
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Thank you. I think it is.
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It was it’s been covered up. It’s been papered over by media, basically. That’s why I’m so happy that we’ve bryden through that elite messaging system. In the way I was raised is in America, you can look at the guy with the Rolls Royce or the Cadillac or whatever and go, I want that and you can be that.
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41:01
And we’ve we’ve kind of devolved into a, you know, it’s international now into a victim mentality. It there’s good and evil.
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Well, it’s just a ploy. It’s again the same thing as Florida in the water. It’s a fucking psyop. It’s a ploy. And it’s a way to keep us, instead of empowering people to recognize that all these people that are successful are inspiration. That’s what they are. They’re fuel for you.
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You can use them every whatever that person is singing at the Grammys, when Kendrick Lamar is doing the halftime show, when someone wins a fight, that’s supposed to be inspiration. That’s a fuel and you can use it correctly.
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Mhmm.
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You could or you can fuck your whole life up by paying attention to other people and comparing yourself in a negative way. This is part of the problem with kids and social media. Oh. Because kids are supposed to sai, like, oh, look at Bobby. He’s nice to everybody and everybody likes Bobby. Be like Bobby. Like, look at Mark. He’s fucking awesome at the guitar, and everybody wants to go see him play. Mhmm.
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I want someone to come see me do something. I gotta I wish I was as good at something as Mark is at arya, and that’s what’s supposed to, like, raise us all up.
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But instead, we see a thousand followers and likes on someone blasting somebody in a funny way in a in a video. Yeah. This is a big part of the problem.
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But sometimes funny way blasting is important too because that’s my line of work. Like, you gotta talk shah. You are
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a professional, Joe. You’re a professional. Yeah.
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How do you become a professional? You start off as an amateur. You start off talking shit.
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42:35
We can’t we can’t all be a comedian or a comic. We just can’t.
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There’s a
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lot more Ken than
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you think.
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I think a lot more there’s a lot of people out there that have the inclination that just don’t don’t get that speak, which is also one of the things we’re trying to do with the club, which is also why we have two nights of open mic nights.
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Oh, that’s cool.
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Yeah. We sana make it accessible. We wanna make this is ai a place where users there’s a real path. You can work on your act and you’re gonna see guys like on a daily basis. Guys like Ron White and Shane Gillis
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and Right.
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You know, there’s people coming in out of town. They’re doing my podcast. Sai like the best of the best in the world. Yeah.
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And they’re
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coming to the club.
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Oh, this is the the center of the universe now for comedy. It is. It’s amazing.
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It’s amazing. It’s amazing. And again, I think this was I think it built itself. I think I just had to do it. I was like
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I just gotta tell you, no, no, no. God loves you, Joe. He is at work in you. He’s all over you and has been that way for a long, long time. There’s no doubt in my mind.
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Well, whatever it is, I’m listening. You’ll accept it.
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Yeah. I accept it and I listen and
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I and I go with it. Yeah. But I think it all like, too many things had to happen. Like, if you wanna believe in fate, if you really wanna believe in fate, I should believe in fate. Because especially with, like, this move here, too many things had to happen in line. It had to be the pandemic, and it had to be me with young kids who just was very uncomfortable with the direction that LA was going.
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And then it had to be the George Floyd riots and the lockdowns. Mhmm. And then, I had to come to Texas and go, oh, oh, there’s other ways that people live. And I know and knew for a long time and you lived here
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Mhmm.
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And you spoke very ai. And then meh good friend Gary, Gary Clark Junior, he came here, like before the pandemic. And I remember talking to him on the phone, ai, why did you move back to Texas? He’s like, man, I just cannot fuck with those people in LA. Ai Gary’s like the realest dude I know. It’s like one of the realest.
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Ai, he doesn’t give a fuck about fame, about that guy cares about playing that fucking guitar and playing songs as good as he can. And that guy just locks himself up in a studio. He’s got a studio on his house at his house. Yeah.
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That’s what you want. He locks
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himself up in there for twelve hours a day, and it’s just that guy only gives a fuck about the art. Like, he’s about the ram. And, like, so all the bullshit that came along with living in Hollywood, like, he would just come hang out at the comedy store all the time. That was just because it was ai, oh, you guys are real. Like, I can hang with you.
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We’d just be cracking up and hang so when he came out here, it’s like, fuck. And then Ron White came out here, I’m like, goddamn it. And then and he’s like, oh, Sai fucking love it. It’s it’s fucking airports sai breeze. No traffic. Everyone’s nice. It’s the middle of the country. Oh, fuck.
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And then the pandemic happened, and it just it was like ai all pulled me to the spot. And then it had to be the Spotify thing, and then it had to be the Comedy Store shutting down for a year.
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Yeah. And
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then it had to be all the Comedy Store employees that I loved were all unemployed. And so then it was like, okay. Let’s fucking do this. Exactly what I’m seeing.
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I’m seeing that with every that’s why I started in 1983. I’m like, I see where the path was.
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I’ve always been doing it.
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They’ve always been doing this stuff.
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And that’s the thing
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about so much sense.
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Podcasting to me too. It’s it was oddly compelling. Like, it didn’t make any sense. I was making no money and I was busy.
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45:42
It was costing you money probably on bandwidth and stuff.
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It was definitely costing you some money. And I had young kids and it was just ai, why am I why am I spending my time doing this when I should be spending my time maybe doing something to make more money? Because especially back then, it’s like Sai I wasn’t doing Fear Factor anymore, so I wasn’t really making the kind of money that I was making when I was on television.
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So I had a tour a lot. So I was doing stand up and I was doing, like, way too many dates with the UFC. The UFC, although I love it to death, it’s I mean, that’s the only job job I still have.
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I still work for somebody. Mhmm.
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That’s because I’ve been there for so long, but it was, like, 22 dates a year.
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46:17
Did they send you a w nine?
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I don’t know. I think I’m an independent contractor. What’s sai w nine? How does that work?
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I have accountants. I got you.
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I was just messing with you.
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I’m like Joe Walsh. I have accountants waiting for it all.
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Meh. Right. I got a maser Maserati that has 2280. 1 80 5.
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The 185. I lost my license. Now Sai don’t drive.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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I have a limo, ride in the back, lock all the doors in case I’m attacked. Yeah.
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Great song.
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Life’s been good to me so far.
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That’s right. It’s a great
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song.
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I use that song all the time. Everybody’s sai different. I haven’t changed.
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46:44
You know, he’s a ham radio guy, Joe Walt.
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Is he really?
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He takes his rig out on the he doesn’t go on the road that much anymore. When he’s out on the road, he has this huge ham radio rig, and that’s ai I’m a I’ve been a ham for a long ai. And that’s like the if you have a a as we call it a QSL, QSO. That’s a that’s ham code for a conversation
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Oh, okay.
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With Joe Walsh. Oh, man.
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There it is.
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Look at that.
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Joe Walsh is the fucking meh.
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He’s awesome.
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Life in the fast lane. That’s gonna change the eagles. The eagles are on the the way to killing your testosterone and making women cry all day. And then all of a sudden Joe Walsh comes along and now you got life in the fast lane. Yeah. Give me give me that riff. Give me the beginning of ai fast lane.
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Doom diddle diddle diddle diddle
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diddle diddle
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diddle diddle diddle diddle
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diddle diddle
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diddle diddle diddle
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diddle diddle diddle diddle.
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It was wild rock and roll guitar attached to this beautiful voice and lyrics and songs and ai. Give me give me this, Jamie. Give it to me.
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Just to see how accurate it was.
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But it was there was a there’s a, you know, guitar, like Sai was talking about Gary, like, here oh, no. It’s close.
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Boom. Bam. Bam. Oh,
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alright. That’s all we can do. Alright. We’re having trouble. Too. Get in trouble. Get in trouble.
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Is that already gonna get us in trouble? Probably.
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Probably. Probably. Probably. No. It’s you’re screwed. Because here we have all these pod you know, there’s four and a half million podcasts, really only 400,000 update regularly. So it’s not even that meh,
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and that’s
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global. Dave man. So We Oh, how dare you? We
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You’re teasing me.
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We can’t play music in podcast because of all these different, entities that own it. And so, you know, you if you if you perform something on the radio or in a ai stream, that’s a performance. Right? Which, you know, the club plays for that too if you play any music. So that’s ASCAP BMI. Then you have the, the publishing right.
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Now because you download a podcast, well, all of a sudden now you’ve made a copy of it. So that’s another group over here. So you have the publishers, then the record companies, you have all the and they they just could never agree, and they’ve locked themselves in so tight that the biggest opportunity for music would be to play it on podcasts.
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They’ve just they’ve they’ve painted themselves into a corner, and it’s so and we all know now that most artists, you know, you get 10,000 streams on Ai, and you get a, you know, a penny after, after a couple of years.
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Did you see it with Snoop Dogg when he he was going over this?
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Oh, ai it’s it’s horrendous. No. I I’m I’m sure it’s it’s horrendous. He got a thousand bucks. Billions
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Mhmm.
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Of streams,
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and he got
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a check for $45.
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And Taylor Swift gets all the rest of the money. I mean, it’s it’s very hot.
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Ai Taylor Swift owns her music? Isn’t that the whole deal? Ai, if you own your music
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If you’re the publisher. Right? Any of you know, this I don’t wanna get too deep into to Spotify and all that, but people are starting to move away from that and what I call the value for value model where, we actually built this with Podcasting two point o, where you can sai you can send a boost, like, I wanna send some money to this person straight from the app.
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So you can play it you can play a song in the podcast as long as they’ve agreed to the to the license. They own all their stuff. You can send the money. We just did Suzanne Santo. We had sai invited you to that. Yeah.
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I couldn’t make it, unfortunately. Sai
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all I had to say is I invited Joe. That was all I needed to say. And, you know, we had six people on stage, six different bands, and they all made between 6 and $800 coming just from from out there. They were not there was maybe 50 at the end of the night, maybe 50 people left. It’s a Monday ai.
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But they were all making more money than they had ever made on any other platform in their life just because people can send it through the Internet through we actually use
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Isn’t that crazy that $600 for a performance that goes in the Internet is the most they’ve ever made from the Internet? Absolutely. Isn’t that crazy? Like, you think about how many times they streamed, like, I found out about Suzanne from, online. Some dude named Balls of Steel sent me a meh, and he said, this is your new favorite song. And I was like, what?
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And it was Honey Honey Angel of Death. They did an acoustic version on the top of a roof in Downtown LA, and it was incredible. And I was like, oh meh god. And then I became friends with them and Yeah. She and Nick are great,
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and their baby is super cute.
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I’ve just seen
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much That’s adorable. Yeah.
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It’s adorable. It’s so cool to
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see her mom. I love it. Yeah. But it’s all it’s like that there’s been so many streams on the radio. And the fact that you never made more than $600 is crazy. Like, something’s broken. Well, that’s because the the publishers are getting all of that. Right. Exactly.
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Because, you know, it’s and then But then
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on the other hand, you get, you know, you can get really famous. Like, people like Tyler, the creator, and all these different people that have blown up just from being on the Internet, and then they do live performances.
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Yeah. But it I still feel that the
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Someone’s making money.
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Well, we know the publishers are making money. The people say the record companies, but it’s the publishers. Yeah.
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They don’t they can’t call them record companies anymore if they don’t make records.
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51:44
Thank you. Four records. I was in my garage the other day, and I put my wall of fame in the garage. You know, ai, time to move this out of the house. Like, I’m old enough now. And I’m looking at, like, there’s a a platinum record, with a cassette with a platinum cassette. Woah.
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I feel ai, do people even remember these days where you got a platinum record with a cassette on it for a ai copies sold of a cassette tape?
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Jelly Roll gave us one of his platinum records. We got it out there in the hall.
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That guy that guy is awesome.
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He’s the boss.
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Jelly Roll is I love that. What a story.
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He’s such a sweetheart. He’s such a nice guy.
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He’s a big crossover artist. You know, the Christians love him. The country guys love him. The rock and rollers love him. It’s ai he’s the perfect perfect, crossover artist. If I were an evil record executive, he’s the perfect he’s the perfect crossover arya, Joel. We need to sign him.
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That’s what
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I also
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do. Like most unlikely looking to be the sweetest guy ever. The fucking all the face tattoos and everything.
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Just goes to show. Yeah. Can’t tell a book by its cover.
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No. You cannot. You cannot. Ever.
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Ever. Ever. So, anyway, back to that, it’s just it’s a shame that we’ve you know, the right the the music industry has moved it into this protectionist place.
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Mhmm.
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And it’s I mean, even if you have a a spin studio, you know, the the gestapo comes around, like, you know, you got more you got more than 75 people a day here. You need to pay us more. And it’s, you know, they’re very litigious. The whole thing is just a mess. You know? It’s a mess.
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Yeah. I mean, law is great because it protects you from scumbags, but law is not so great. Protecting now?
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Because the artists are making no money.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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Although it’s become easier to, you know, to do your music at home. That’s I mean, I remember going to the Hit Factory in in New York and hanging out, you know, watching people record records. Ai was amazing with, you know, the big machines and lots of people running around. That was cool.
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I think YouTube and social media presents very unique opportunities where a guy like Oliver Anthony can all of a sudden explode out of nowhere with one song. Yeah. He’s another sweetheart.
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Yeah. You had him on.
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I saw. He was at the club the other night too. We’re really hanging out. Where does he live? I think he still Is he down south? Maybe he doesn’t want people to
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know him. Okay. Well, he lives I
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don’t wanna say. Around. But he he was I mean, back was he was he was he was in Virginia?
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West Virginia. Okay. Yeah. West Virginia. That makes sense.
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Richmond, north of Richmond was the song. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. That’s where he was. I don’t know if he’s ever
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And and god bless him because he sai he stayed away from the system.
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Meh. So we had a phone call. Yeah. I I called him up when it when it would all started popping off for meh.
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So I
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I’m gonna sign you, boy. I’m gonna sign you to my broken records. You’re gonna make millions. Here, take this Cadillac. It’ll be great. Yeah.
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I sent the Cadillac right to his house. That’s the last thing you wanna give that guy. You wanna give him, like, a 1983 Exactly. Chevy that’s redone, you know, a pickup truck Yeah. Like an an f one fifty from the ai. It’s like redone with the boxy ones. Yeah. That’s your Eight
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track and the dash. Good to go. Yep.
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No. He’s a genuine guy. He’s a really nice guy. And, we had this conversation over the phone. He sai, people are offering me millions of dollars to this and that and this. I go, stay independent. And then he goes, they keep saying Ai gotta strike while the iron’s hot. I go, no. No. No. No. No. Listen to me. You you’ve already made it.
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All you have to do now is just keep doing what you just did and you can do that. Right? I’m sure you have other ai. Oh, I got a bunch of other songs. Mhmm. Then you sent me some of those other songs, which are just as good if not better.
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And I was like, dude, you have talent. Talent is what you that’s what everybody needs. All this other stuff is people just trying to take advantage of your talent. Stay independent.
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That’s what I mean about you, Joe. You are you’re a good guy.
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But I was already Ai I I was already past that spot where he’s at. Like, I’d been in that spot before where people are offering you deals and stuff like that. I know what the the trappings of that is. You’re broke, and then all of a sudden, you have money. And, ai, for me, it worked out great. That that that happened to me in 1993.
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I got this big development deal with Disney.
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55:49
Oh. And I
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moved out to California to do a sitcom. And but it was ai but it was I wanted to be a comic. And then all of a sudden, I’ve got all this money that’s coming from TV.
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I’m like,
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this is so weird.
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55:58
Was that news radio?
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No. That was Hardball. That was a a baseball show that was on Fox that never made it.
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56:03
I was an Meh, man. I wasn’t paying attention to any of that stuff. Oh, did it
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make it?
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It actually arya at MTV because I got a development deal with MTV first.
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Really? Yeah.
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But the development deal on MTV was, like, $500 to do a pilot. I’m not kidding. Ai then it’s Sounds like MTV. I’m not kidding. It was, like, $500 ai something. Maybe 5,000. Mhmm. I don’t think it was, though. I think it was $500.
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And if I did the pilot and the pilot was successful, they would have me locked in for some exorbitant amount of time. I think it was, like, five years
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Yeah.
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Where I couldn’t do anything other than MTV. And it was because they had a few people that became really famous off MTV and then left. And so they had decided that MTV is, going to keep all of their saloni. You know, like, just the leery
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funniest thing because when I got there in ’87, VJ’s were expendable. They’re like, you know, you’re expendable. Shut up. You know, we can we can now they couldn’t because they brought me over from Europe and had a two year contract. I think the first year was a hundred and $50, the second year was a hundred and $75, and I got a car service.
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57:07
And, and I could do radio, any any radio I wanted to do. And so and they just they a lot of the not they, but a lot of the people at the office really disliked me because they’d be ai, cut your hair. I’m like, no. I’m not gonna cut my hair.
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57:21
Why do they want you to cut your hair?
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57:23
New creative direction for the for the channel. I’m like, no. And, you know, Ai I’ve had different lengths of hair throughout the years. Eighties, man.
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57:32
That that hair was gold.
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57:33
Have you seen the arya we’re playing?
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Let me let me
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give you a photo of Adam Curry in ’88.
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It’s glorious. It’s Glorious. Ai hair of generation x. Don’t call me a boomer.
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57:45
Look at that. Come on. Who the fuck would tell you to cut that Farrah Fawcett? That’s a beautiful head of hair. That’s an amazing
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57:52
Good times, brother. Good times.
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57:53
Imagine someone telling you that that probably that was like a huge hook too. Ai, probably sai lot of the ladies.
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57:59
Well, you know what, Merv Griffin always sai? What Merv Griffin always said, people with big heads are successful on television. That’s why he had Pat Sajak and, of course, Jay Leno. Jay Leno. Big heads. Right? Sai don’t have a big head. You have big hair.
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58:12
Ai had big hair, so I had a big head. Exactly. The formula works.
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Ai. There’s no, like, little tiny headed dudes that are like
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58:19
Oh, wow. No. No. What is that about? No. That works on YouTube now, but on television, it’s
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Does it work on YouTube now? I’ve got a tiny head
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of skin on it.
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58:26
I think anybody can be successful on YouTube. Right. I mean, it’s all kinds of
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58:30
Wasn’t that show you that the formula is bullshit then? You know, like, you got a guy like Meh. Beast who is not, like, classically good looking guy who’s got the biggest show in the world.
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58:39
That guy has I mean, so I don’t people say he’s a creator. I think he’s a creation. He he is a creation of YouTube and how it works. You don’t have this, because you’re, you know, you’re so established, but they his team, and he’s talked about this, micromanage every second of each video, every cut, every the poster images, all these things, and it’s all about time spent viewing.
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59:06
If one video does a minute thirty eight and the other one does one forty, that other video is more successful. I mean, it’s really in order to to, like, hook the algos, get everything rolling
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Mhmm.
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You have to bring that down to a science. And, of course, and this is not for you and I, I don’t think, because you have to always keep feeding the machine. You gotta keep feeding it, feeding it, feeding it. You have to make your life a part of your YouTube channel. Otherwise, you know, you drop off very quickly.
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Yeah. Well, I just think he has a different approach. I mean, his approach is very, like, scientific. He’s very Yeah. Very intelligent about it. And Ai I’m a feel person, which is why I when I get people as guests, I never think, ai, peep sometimes people think, oh, you try to get, like, the biggest name guests because vatsal be the most popular videos.
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Ai don’t Wow. I don’t do that at all. I only who do I sana talk to? That’s exactly how I’ve always done it. So that’s Ai gonna always do it.
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Do I want and if it happens to be Mel Gibson, you know, and he
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Ram. Interview by
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the way.
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He was I mean, I’m like, that’s for me, he’s always Mad Max. When I was a kid, you know, we we’d play hooky from school. We go back. We’d and somewhat have a VHS. No. I ai a Betamax. You had a Betamax. Yeah. And, like, watching Mad Max and then Diana Ross in the round.
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I mean
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Diana Ross in the round.
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We love Diana Ross. She’s like, oh, she’s so awesome with a Mad Max sai, that original, and he’s standing there with his boots in the desert and at the beginning. It was
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just fucking movie. Uh-huh. He had a bunch of bangers, but he just he’s an interesting
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ai. You know? And that blower on top of the the engine, I mean, the whole thing was just we just loved that.
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Shah was a fun movie.
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And then tyler, Lethal Weapon. And then and I didn’t realize because I’d seen The Passion, which is, you know, as a as a Jesus freak ai, it’s like, that was ai, woah. That was a heavy movie to watch. And when he sai, I didn’t realize that Sai figured, oh, the whole thing was an Aramaic. Mhmm.
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And it was the subtitles that you were basically reading the subtitles.
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Mhmm.
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And his theory that it, you know, it it penetrates you differently. The story, I think, is so spot on.
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I think so too. I mean It’s
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really, really interesting.
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Well, he’s a a very underrated filmmaker, and I always point to Apocalypto as another example of that. Yeah. There’s no English in that movie. No. And it’s a masterful movie. Mhmm. It’s a great movie.
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That guy has a calling, man. He’s he’s doing and talent. He’s got just and he fought the system. He really, really fought the system. So Well,
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that was what was fascinating about talking to him about what happened when he made The Passion of the Ai, because it was really it wasn’t that it was an anti Jesus, reaction to that film. It was an anti Jesus reaction to that film that was really made by the motion picture industry because he had gone outside the normal distribution system. Yep.
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So in creating that movie, he financed it himself. He went outside that he got a smaller distributor, and it did really well. And they were like $800,000,000 or something crazy. Ai gotta make sure this doesn’t fucking happen again. Yep. And that’s where the attacks came.
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And that’s also where Jim Caviezel, his career completely stalled out. You would think the ai in a gigantic blockbuster movie like that, like, he’s gonna be in blockbuster movie after blockbuster movie after this. No. They ai blackballed him.
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Yes. Well, and sai you have smaller studios now ai, Angel Studios, and they’re in Utah. And they did, they crowdfunded, this, The Chosen, which is, you know, the story of Jesus. And it’s, I mean, unbelievable. They’re in the fifth season now, completely outside the studio system, completely away from it, and it’s all crowdfunding.
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At the end of the season, the credits are, like, fifteen minutes. Oh, wow. Everybody who donated and everybody who donated, you know, x amount, they get to be extras on the set. I mean, it’s a whole new way of looking at producing stuff.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. Then, of course, they went on to do the an apocalyptic movie called Homestead, which is a dog. It’s so horrible. It’s ai, what is this? I mean, it’s
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01:03:06
Oh, it’s a bad movie?
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Bad acting. Is it
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bad enough to watch it?
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No. No. Tina and I were watching. We’re like, do we bail? No. Ten more minutes. Do we bail? No. No. It’s gonna happen. Do and it was ai, no. No. It was too bad. I mean, just like what?
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It’s hard
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to make a good movie.
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Of course, it is.
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Well, imagine the amount of people that you have. If you have a bunch of idiots telling you to cut your hair, imagine how many dumbasses you have in the background of the movie Yeah. They’re telling you what to do, all the money people, all the executives, like it’s so it must be so hard.
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You have to be like a Quentin Tarantino who’s ai, they just leave him alone. Leave him alone. Let him do his magic.
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01:03:41
He’s an interesting have you met him?
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Oh, yeah. He’s been on a couple ai.
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Interesting fella.
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We hung
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out with him the other night. We went out to dinner with him, him and Roger Avery who’s also awesome. Mhmm. And, then we went to the club. We hung out at the club.
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He’s an interesting guy.
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He and that’s what he, like, what he, like, requested to come to the club.
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01:03:55
Was he wearing his tracksuit?
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No. He was dressed normal.
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I saw him in LA when I was there for about a year. I was like, you see him, like, tracksuit. Tracks are comfortable. Tracksuit.
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I get it why the mob guys wear tracksuits. Yeah.
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Of course. What you’re wearing, you know,
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this is the way to do it.
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Adidas, comfortable. Adidas, that’s my uniform.
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I think the move is ai stretchy jeans. Because stretchy jeans give you all the feel of a tracksuit, but you don’t look like a weirdo.
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01:04:20
Ai become a hoodie guy, you know, much much to my my wife’s chagrin. She’s ai, you know, I got friends of mine saying, hey, Fetterman. I’m like,
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I’m not really ai. Fetter really wore a hoodie to the fucking inauguration.
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That was a little wild. I mean, the hoodie was one thing, but the shorts, I’m like, well, you know, that’s Fetterman, I guess.
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That’s really who he is. Mhmm. I mean, it’s kinda weird in that, like, come on, everybody else is wearing a suit. But it’s also kind of like, well, that’s how he dresses twenty four hours a day.
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Like Yeah. But you wore a tuxedo. Dude, you wore a button down for the president being in your studio. I was impressed by that.
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Well, I felt I felt like I had to. The vice president too.
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Yeah. It’s
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like I gotta wear
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something nice.
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It’s because, you know, it’s a little bit it shows a little bit of respect.
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Yeah. I didn’t even clean the table off though. But you ai, my friend, Harlan Williams is very happy that Dimitri was on the table.
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Oh, speak.
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Yeah. He he gave me a giant hug. He goes, Dimitri was on the table. He’s the one meh interview with the president. Yes. This is a gag that Harlan did. He said he had a tapeworm, and then three hours into the podcast, he pulls out this fucking snake out of his pants. You gotta see Harlan.
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He’s fucking he’s so funny and so unusual and so eccentric that, like, for him, like, that was it was such a huge thing to see the snake on the table that he pulled out of his cage. I get it. I get it.
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I mean, it was so interesting where, you know, ai you’ve talked about the the Harris campaign and all the stuff that they were saying. And, you you know, it’s like, well, we talked to his people. I’m like, his people? I think it’s Jamie and then maybe one other ai?
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Well, I do have managers, and they did talk to them.
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Oh, they did talk to
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them. Yeah. But but what they said just wasn’t true.
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But, yeah, I mean, it’s not like you have a super big team here. No. You
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know, it’s a very Even the team outside of here is not that big. But it’s, just can’t it’s just normal political bullshit. They just lie. They cover their ass and they lie. I would have been very happy to have her on. And like I said, the goal was to release both of them the same day.
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Ai was trying
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to figure out That’s a great idea. It would have been great. That would have been fantastic.
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Yeah.
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I was trying to figure out if that would be possible to do, you know. And that’s what I wanted to do. I wanted to put them out both at the same time.
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But that’s it. That’s where we broke the meh the elite messaging system. We broke it because they could not put her into the new system. They couldn’t because they knew that she would fall down.
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Well, they just got scared. They could’ve They could’ve put her in. I would’ve held her hand. I would’ve we would’ve had a conversation. Not that I need to hold
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01:06:39
You probably would’ve ai
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vote for her. But what I meant was no. I wouldn’t have done that. I wasn’t gonna move forward.
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I don’t know, Joe. She might have charmed you.
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But I was more than willing to strong meh or steel man all of our positions to try to like That’s true. I wanted to That’s true. I wanted to know what would be the good in this and ai, you know, and let the even if it doesn’t make any sense, express it the best way possible that you can.
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I will help you do that. Mhmm. And then I’ll ask you questions.
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Yeah.
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But I’m not gonna be antagonistic. I’m not gonna be a shithead. I’m not gonna be I have no ai to turn this into a viral clip thing. I’m not trying to
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do that. I don’t
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think you’ve ever done that with anybody.
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01:07:17
No. I don’t sana it I I never wanted that done to meh. So why would I do that to someone else?
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01:07:21
Why I wore this hoodie, ai sharpens iron. That’s that’s what you are, brother. You know, you you get bring people in, iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend. You’re always you know, I come here Sai come here cause I wanna learn from Joe. I want my iron to be sharpened by Joe.
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01:07:35
You do that with everybody who’s there.
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01:07:36
Well, I just want whoever’s in that seat to do the best they can. Right? So, like, whatever it is, whether whether you’re talking about quantum physics, whether you’re talking about human psychology or ancient history, I want the best version of you, and I sana, like, kinda help you get the best version out.
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And if you’re running for president, I’d like to get the best version of that from you. And I think that the the whole system of of debates and public speeches and interviews is so bad for getting to know a human being.
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Yeah.
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You know, Ai guarantee you, like, I’ve seen interviews where she’s really funny. I’ve seen this one I I talked about it before, but I’ll say it again. This is one interview she’s talking about meeting her mother-in-law for the first time Yes. And her mother-in-law grabbed ram
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01:08:22
Jewish lady.
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Like, oh,
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you’re so beautiful. It’s very funny. Yeah. And she laughs and she laughs in a genuine way. It’s not like that sort of defensive laughter that she does sometimes where it seems like it’s orchestrated. It was of a genuine laughter, and it was fun.
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Well, she’s a prosecutor. That’s why she kept going into prosecutorial mode, the same with the so called debate with Trump. She was prosecuting him. So she has a switch that she just The right.
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01:08:48
And then becomes an authority.
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And then she whereas our president, you know, he’s kind of him all the time. They’re eating the dogs. I think that won him the
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01:08:56
election too. That was awesome. I mean, that’s one
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01:08:56
of my favorite jingles of all time. They’re eating too. That was awesome. I mean, that’s one of my favorite jingles of all time. They’re eating the dogs. They’re eating
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01:09:02
the cats.
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01:09:02
Are you kidding me? This is that that that just I ai that. That’s fantastic.
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01:09:06
Well, it is, it’s very interesting to watch, it all take place. It’s it’s very interesting to, watch this, shifting of the consciousness of the country.
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01:09:19
The culture.
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Yeah. And but also to see the reaction on the left, ai, to see the really crazy people, ai, those people that Worcester Town Hall thing. Like that it’s interesting to see that too because you’re gonna see these, like, really exaggerated grasps sai retaining relevancy. Ai, really exact
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01:09:38
Well, they’re crying out for help is what they’re doing. They’re they’re crying out for help. They’ve been psy ops. I mean, I I I’m only on x. I’ve I gave up Facebook and Instagram. I’m not interested. And x, I really only use as kind of an inbox. You know, people will, you know, send me stuff and things for the show.
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01:09:55
But early on when, Blue Ai was still a, a secret project within Twitter that Jack Dorsey was running. I knew some people who were in that secret project. And so I have an account. And I went on there the other day. I’m like, oh ai lord. This is horrible.
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01:10:13
These people are spinning up and spinning out and just going nuts with each other. It’s Yeah. And ai it’s like, I I don’t know how we we we have to figure out a way. And, you know, president Trump says success will bring us to together. Ai think that’s probably true. But, you know, we can’t just, I’m a little worried that we’re all gonna be stomping on them. You know?
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It’s like, sai, look at these stupid libs. Look, you know, they’re idiots. They’re crazy. And I I just feel that, you know, you you gotta you gotta love them and not hate them. You don’t have to forget what they’ve done or what they’ve said, but they have been abused by multiple entities and systems within our own government and political, organizations.
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Yeah. Also, they’re in this feedback loop, this echo chamber, and they Yeah. They don’t have outside people that are kind. And, you know, everybody outside is the enemy and they’re they’re trying to, like, they’re trying to make their way through life like all of us. But without forgiveness, you don’t you have nothing. Like, you you have to be able to forgive people. Yes. You have to. Without that, there’s nothing.
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Like Well, you you remain trapped in your own prison.
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01:11:22
Yeah. And you’re also you have enemies forever that could have been your friends. Mhmm. There’s no reason for it. It’s not good for you. It’s not good for them. And it’s just ai this stubborn inclination that a lot of people have to stick with vatsal. Like, fuck those people forever for life. You you really shouldn’t do that.
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It’s not good. Well Especially if those people feel bad. If they apologize Yeah. And they realize they’ve made mistakes, yeah. Like, that’s what life’s about.
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01:11:47
You you gotta be able to understand that in the past, you’ve made mistakes and grow. And if we, the people that have made mistakes and grown, do not accept the people that are currently making mistakes and growing, well, then we’re hypocrites.
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01:12:00
Well, that’s the same with, COVID. You know, I know many people who either lost their job or were forced to take something they didn’t wanna take, and they they will never forgive them. Like, I won’t forget now forgiving is not the same as forgetting, obviously. But they they can’t bring themselves to forgive those who were caught up in a massive psychological operation, and they are they’re held in their own prison of anger, and it’s with their own family members.
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01:12:29
I mean, that it’s almost ai, did that happen? That just went we’re now back. What are we doing? All these things have gone so fast. We you know, we had an attempt on, on a on a president’s ai, and it’s like we don’t know anything and all the what what what just I mean, we’re, like, our heads are on a swivel spinning around.
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01:12:47
Like, what is going on? And I think And the drones. You know, the drone
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01:12:53
What about the drone?
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01:12:54
So the drone thing, for me, it was so odd. First of all, there is a base over there, and they they’re testing some some drone technology. But people in The United States, but really around the world, this is how we go through life. We go through life looking down. I’m a pilot.
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01:13:07
I fly helicopters, airplanes. I’m looking up at the sky all the time. There’s a lot going on. There’s a lot happening in the ai. And then the minute What
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01:13:15
have you seen?
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01:13:16
All kinds of things, Joe. What have
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you seen?
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01:13:18
I’ve seen the Starlink satellites go over my house.
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01:13:21
Those trip people out.
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01:13:22
It’s amazing. It’s ai, woah. And, you know, it’s ai eight or nine in a row. Like, woah. Ai they go fast. Very fast. And they seem pretty low, actually. Ai don’t know, like 60 miles up. I’m like, but and of course, you know, once it becomes a story, then every I know all these people with drones are ai, dude, I’m gonna get in the news.
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01:13:40
I’m flying my drone. They got six foot diameter drones flying around. Of course. I mean, aliens and, Chinese drones, they always wanna have their red and green anti collision lights on. It’s important.
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01:13:52
It’s like
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01:13:53
I was like, no. No. And, of course, there was some, you know, some actual, legislation that they sana to pass, which happened that same week, which was to get, Chinese drones out of Meh. The DJI drones, they don’t want them. They wanna get They passed that the same week
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01:14:09
that this
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01:14:10
is going on? Dude, same week. Sai week. That’s that’s why they sai ed all of these, local people, and they’re all Meh
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my god.
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01:14:18
Yes. Oh, yeah. It was it was the it was the These motherfuckers. Yeah. They wanted the DJI DJI drones no longer to come in and, you know but really for for law enforcement to also have local authority over drones, which they didn’t have. And now they have they’re gonna have that as well. So they can say, hey. You with the drone down, we’re doing something important here.
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01:14:39
Right.
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01:14:39
So it’s always to remove your freedom. Trust me. Whatever the yeah. That was the same time. And all I had to I looked at this and, like, okay. I’m trained ai, like, oh, let’s go take a look. What’s going on? Oh, that’s interesting, isn’t it? Look at this legislation.
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01:14:54
Argument for deregulation too. Because when it comes to innovation, the issue with drones is that if you want, like, a really high level sophisticated drone in America, you have to have a pilot’s license.
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01:15:05
You do.
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01:15:06
Yeah. Yeah. This is this is a that’s a big deal. And the FAA is very involved in the policing of
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01:15:13
Well, you need that. I mean, you need that for our ai, obviously. 100%. Yeah. China don’t have that, bro. They just
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01:15:19
they got a social credit score system and If, you know, I talk to freedom.
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01:15:23
I talk to a lot of guys who do, our audience who just got people in every you know, we’ve trained them. You’re producers. You know something about one particular topic. You you have an obligation to let us know. So we have all these guys drone for hobbies, drones for law enforcement, drones for news. Mhmm.
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01:15:39
And they all said, you know, these DJI drones, they’re so much better than The US drones. They’re just better. They got better stuff, better technology, better cameras. So they, you know, they’re like, I don’t wanna lose this. And, you know, I guess,
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01:15:53
the thing is Without the free market, the innovation is gonna be stifled. If the innovation is only available to the highest level military contractors, that’s crazy. Like, especially when it comes to drone technology, like, you’re competing with China and they’re doing these enormous light shows with a fucking dragon flying through the sky.
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01:16:10
Have you seen some of those?
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01:16:11
Yeah. I sai I’ve seen them fall out and hit people.
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01:16:13
Oh. Gotta crack a few edges if you
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01:16:16
wanna make an omelette out there. I hear you.
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01:16:18
I’m glad I don’t go to drone shows for this very reason, Joe. I’m careful. I’m careful
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01:16:22
about that. Probably like like, the those air shows where they fly jets around, like, I’m not gonna be on the ground. No.
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01:16:27
I’m not gonna go to those. That’s why I like, Starlink because Starlink is really, first and foremost, a military system. And and very smartly, I think Elon is very good at at marketing. It’s like, let’s give this to the people. You know? So that’s everyone I mean, I have it as a backup at home. I have fiber, but I have a Starlink. Of course, I I wanna have this.
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But it’s really a military system.
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01:16:51
Dude, I took one with me to the mountains in Utah ai I went hunting. Worked perfect. It’s the size of this path.
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01:16:55
Yeah. The the to go, the little It’s incredible. Little to go thing.
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It’s incredible. You can make phone calls. You can do Ai, all from the mountains in the middle of nowhere.
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01:17:03
I know. I know. It’s it’s we used to dream of I think I had databelt.com at one point. I dreamt about, you know, wouldn’t it be great if we have these satellites and they’re circling around, and we call it the data belt, and we’d have all this stuff and, you know, all these things that I can just see, the delight of, and, of course, a lot of it’s, you know, SpaceX.
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These are very sophisticated NASA people. You know, there’s all ai the best of the best is in there. I think he knows how to hire the right people. And but he’s smart at how he markets that. He really is.
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01:17:36
I mean,
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01:17:36
just Ai, the newest thing is they’ve teamed up with T Mobile. So they’re Saw that. Yeah. Sai you have Starlink compatible phones. Compatible phones only, Joe. Right. So you you’ve gone to flip phone now?
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01:17:46
I’ve gone to flip. Yeah.
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01:17:47
So are you texting me on that thing?
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01:17:49
No. Ai we do it on signal, so I do that from my computer.
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01:17:53
Oh, boy. You’re a weirdo. So now you’ve gone completely flip phone.
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01:17:56
Sai you
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01:17:57
don’t text anybody anymore?
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01:17:58
No. I can text Sai can text message, but
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01:17:59
we’ve But it’s ai t nine?
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01:18:01
No. No. There’s actually so, I still have my GrapheneOS, which is the d googled stuff. And that? No. You can’t put that on here. So this is Android, but all I really have on here is text messaging, RCS.
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01:18:14
Can I see it?
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01:18:14
Yeah. So I’m still a green bubble.
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01:18:16
This is a big
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01:18:17
flip phone. $63. And it’s from Caterpillar, baby.
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01:18:21
Woah. So this is, like, for job sai? Yeah. Yeah. Your battery lasts a year. How long is the battery?
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01:18:26
Literally two days ai I don’t charge. It keeps going. Oh, yeah. It’s no problem.
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01:18:30
And so this is Android. And you have a touch tone a touch screen?
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01:18:33
Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you text, it pops up. Now it’s this might be the moment. The whole thing is it’s hard to use, and that’s why I like it because I don’t want it’s a trap.
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01:18:44
Well, reading your text messages is a trip.
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01:18:47
What am I saying?
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01:18:48
No. They’re they’re so small. This is crazy. Yeah. How do you get back?
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01:18:54
Use the the back button on the keyboard.
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01:18:56
Oh, my god. That’s hilarious. Sai I This is hilarious.
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01:19:00
So in a pinch, I can bring up a web page. In a pinch, I can bring up my email.
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01:19:05
Right. But it makes it complicated.
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01:19:07
Yeah. So I’m I’m I’m hindering myself so that I’m not enslaved to it. And actually, I hear from, from our daughters, you know, that there’s a lot of kids who are doing this now. They they because they want to be more bryden,
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01:19:20
particularly the
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01:19:21
sana a text message. Like, if you wanna get into your messages, what are you using to send a text message?
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01:19:26
Ai, here. I’ll show you.
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01:19:27
Are you doing, like, t nine?
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01:19:28
No. No. No. No. So
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01:19:29
You’re typing you have a little tiny keyboard that
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01:19:32
comes with a little tiny screen. Emojis for my wife.
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01:19:34
Oh, key See?
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01:19:35
You just hit that, and then up pops the keyboard. But you can also swipe. So you can just swipe and swipe around. Keyboard’s hilarious. You can also you can also do
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01:19:46
try to write hello.
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01:19:46
Hello. Ai wife will be like, what’s going on? It’s probably auto completing, like This is terrible. Yeah. You gotta I have it in swipe mode. Yeah. So just swipe along the letters.
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01:19:56
Know how
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01:19:56
to do that. Yeah. Just l l l. Nope. Ai. Nope. Didn’t work. No.
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01:20:01
No. I have fat
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01:20:02
ass fingers too, man. This is not gonna work.
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01:20:05
It’s it’s not easy. And, but Ai, you know, it’s like, I just need to I like talking to people now too. Like, it’s it’s a great phone for talking to people.
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Yeah. Talking to people is better.
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And you know what’s cool?
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Do you have navigation on this thing? No.
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Well, I could put it on there.
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But then the GoPro
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might be fine with that.
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Work. But, you know, you talk to someone ai, yes. That’s satisfying. Yeah. That is satisfying. Ai and look, has little alerts if
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we I
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get a text message so I can see
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So if somebody tells you, hey. The meeting got moved to 10PM.
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I don’t have meetings, Joe.
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Well Ai got no. Whatever.
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No meetings. Our dinner reservations got changed. You’ll
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get it. Yeah. You know, it’s Dvorak, my my partner, on no agenda, he, he literally has a phone in his drawer, and he never takes it out. He has decided, no. I don’t use navigation. He lives in San Francisco. He wants to, you know, wants to keep his mind sharp by driving around.
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He says, whenever I need a phone, I just turn around to someone and say, hey, Matt. Can I use your phone for a second? There’s always someone with a phone, he says. So if I really needed to look something up, I just ask him for it, and it’s and good to go. It you you know, you get the feeling that you need this thing, but you really don’t.
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Well, you definitely don’t if you have a laptop. Yeah.
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And And spend dedicated time doing certain things.
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Right. You know? Especially, like, if you I can’t keep up with emails. It’s impossible. Just doesn’t doesn’t make sense.
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Sai, that’s basically all I do.
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I can’t do it. It doesn’t work.
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I have filtering and all kinds of stuff. There’s, like, people who will email me 15 times a day. Okay. And, well, the thing is, of those 15 messages, there’s one gem in there.
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So you have to check them every day. Otherwise, in three days, you’ve got 4,500 messages. Well It doesn’t make any sense.
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How many? 45. Hundred. 40 five hundred messages.
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That one guy. Oh, yeah. But 15
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in a day. But I put him in his own email box.
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Oh, I see.
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And so then, you know, like, when I’m prepping for the show, like, no. No. No. No. I can just see Right. No. Maybe. Maybe. Check that out. Yeah. So I’m a real that’s a I’m a real information manager. That’s by the way, I am not a big believer in the benefits of AI at this moment.
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But if it can fix my email, then I’ll believe it. And so far, no one’s done that with me.
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How could it possibly fix your email?
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It should know what I want to see and what’s relevant to me based upon how about the transcript of my shah? Or, I mean, all these wonderful inputs I can give it. How come it can’t do that? It’s no one has fixed email for me. When you do that, then I’ll be a little more little more of a believer in AI. Right now, I think it’s a great parlor trick.
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I think it’s keeping the stock market afloat. You know, we’ve gone through three AI winters. Even has its own Wiki page, AI winter. It it it comes and goes, you know. At a certain point, it was, list was the programming language and then, you know, that went away and then funding dries up. And, you know, now it’s like, what?
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We don’t really need a hundred million dollars to build a model? Oh, but wait a minute. They stole that from you sai you can copy. I’m I run these models at home on my own computer. I run the llama model, which is, Meh. They’ve open sourced it.
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01:23:15
I’ve, I’ve run the French one, whatever their frog model, whatever they call it. And, and then deep seek, you can also just load that on your own computer, And it’s not very impressive. I mean, it’s just not. The the error rate is too ai. So I’m I’m skeptical of it really taking off. And I certainly don’t think it’s sentient or anything of that kind.
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I think it’s on its way. And, I think also the versions that we’re getting are not the versions they’re currently working on. And the people that I know that are in the loop at the highest levels of AI are alarmed, including Elon. I had a conversation with Elon. We went to,
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we were
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in line together to go to church the day of the inauguration. It just happened to be right next to him.
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Mhmm. And we
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just walked through together. I’m like, hey, what’s up? And that’s all I wanted to talk about was, the leaps that Grok AI is making. And he’s ai, it’s like weekly we’re shocked. Mhmm. And I think this thing is exponential. And when they start attaching large language models to quantum computing, it’s gonna get very, very weird.
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That’s the pivot I’m waiting for when people start
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arya, and that’s gonna be ai an asteroid hitting the Yucatan.
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You know, we’ve been waiting for quantum computers to actually work for thirty years, and it’s always ten years away. And right now, it’s ten years away.
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Yeah. But right now, they’re able to do things with them. You know? They’re able to solve very complicated algorithms.
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One there was I’m not an expert in this, but there was one computation they did Mhmm. And, you know, that may be a computation it could do. It’s not necessary that you can give it any computation.
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But you know that the computations that it’s doing are are so insanely complex that they believe it’s proof of the multiverse?
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Yeah. I’ve heard this.
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Yeah. You’re not you’re not buying it.
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No. Not at all. Really? Not for a second. Oh, no. Because I how dare you?
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I know
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you. I’m a Luddite. I’m a Luddite.
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Look Look at me. I hear you crush my face.
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Believe in this. Yeah. Ai got no smoke shackling in my car. For a number of reasons. One is I’m not using it. I am I am the techno guy. I’ve always been early in computers, early in the Internet, and I just can’t find a use for it. When I find a it’s you know, it does some simple things. It’s very good at language. Honestly, if I’m look if I was like, okay. Here’s my situation.
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I’m looking for Ai scripture. It’ll come up with something good, and then I can say and read it to me like a like a Baptist pastor. And it’ll go, hey, brother. You know? You know? He’ll do all that stuff. But okay. You know?
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It has all of the translations of the bible in it, and so it can it can predict reasonably what scripture will work. It’s usually not all that great. It can do term papers. It can do you know, we’re in a position now where people are putting their resume into ChatGPT, sending it off, you know, thousands of people are sending off for a job.
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And the other end, the people are taking that resume, putting in a chat g p t and saying, please summarize this resume. I mean, that’s insane.
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Mhmm. I mean, we’re we’re
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it’s ai, what are we doing here? That doesn’t make any sense. If it can fix my email, they’ll be very impressed. That’s all I want. That’s all
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I ask.
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Particular puzzle, though. That’s a fact.
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Everyone’s email is a puzzle. It it’s like, you know, the spammers get around stuff and they figure it out. And you you say report a speak, then it comes back in a different way. And, you know, every and how many older people, especially, but even people our age who get scammed by, you know, these emails that look pretty convincing.
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And then the minute you click, you know, then you’re they’re like, oh, I should put my password in, and then then you’re gone. You’re done. There was there’s a phone scam going around right now, which is unbelievable. They had me going for fifteen minutes. I got a call, it was 08:00 in the morning, right at 08:00. And I’m about to walk the dog, so I press it to voice mail. I come back.
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I listen. This is the sheriff, from, Travis County, and had a 512 number, and, you know, I need to talk to you urgently. I’m like, okay. This is kinda messed up. I call back. I get a I get someone, oh, I want sheriff so and so. Yeah. Hold on a second. We’ll transfer you.
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I’m hearing, you know, like, police radio chatter in the background. The guy gets on and he’s saying, well, you were an expert witness. You were called to be an expert witness in a case. I just happened to and maybe this is not coincidence. I was asked to testify on someone’s behalf in a in a case. And sai you were supposed to be an expert witness in this case.
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You didn’t show up, sai, you know, you’ve basically broken federal law, and, you know, we have to come and pick you up. And we have to, you know or you can pay a fine. And and then I’m like, okay. And it and it just kept on going, and I’m like, woah. Hold on a sec. It sounded so real.
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And then at a certain point, he’s like, well, you need to go you need to get a coupon to send this money. I’m like, I’m gonna call my lawyer. You can’t call your lawyer. I have a do not hang up, order. I have to walk you through the whole process. I’m like, okay. Now Ai got it.
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But that was ten, fifteen minutes later. Wow. And a lot of people have fallen for this one. It’s re it’s good.
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Super sophisticated,
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Very sophisticated.
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So is that overseas? Are they, like, spoofing a number that’s in Texas?
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These were American voices. It sounded like a sheriff. It really did. And the deputy sounded like a deputy. I mean, it was sophisticated. It’s good. Wow. It’s
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real meh How much was the fine?
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Like, 3,000 for this for this infraction and 2,000 for that infraction, you know, for these two different things.
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And then you’re gonna bank transfer, so they’re gonna get your bank numbers.
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But, I mean, at that point, I I I caught on, like, no. Hold on a second. You know?
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How’d you get off of it?
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I said I’m gonna call my ai, and he’s like, no. No. Yeah. I’m like, you can’t tell me I can’t call my lawyer. This is bullcrap. And then and I I had to calm down. I’m ai, I said to Tina, I said, just listen to what just happened to me. This is crazy. Some people I know in our in our in our in Fredericksburg actually went all the way. Wow. Yeah. The older people, you ai, and they were afraid.
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They’re like, oh, I
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think it’s authority. That’s how they meh you.
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Yeah. I’m sure you’ve got the the one that says, this is my favorite Bitcoin scam. It’s like, ai. I’ve installed a spyware on your computer, and I saw what you were doing looking at that porn ai, and I’ve recorded everything. And I’m going to release it all to your to your friends and on your social media if you don’t send me $2,000 in Bitcoin right away.
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Don’t even think about contacting the authorities. Have you gotten that one? No. They’ve sophisticated it even more now. Well, they’ll they’ll use your name and your address. Oh.
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Like, I know you live at this address. It’s it’s freaky, man. So that kind of stuff will be nice if we could have AI protect us from that. Yeah. If it can do all these wonderful things, focus on that. Help people. Save people now.
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Yeah. Cut out cut out the the scam. Yeah. Cut out speaking of scamming, what do you
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think about shitcoins? Like, what’s
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what’s your take on, like, Ai coin Okay. And Melania coin and Those are more meh coins.
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More meme coins. Shit coins.
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Right?
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Isn’t that what a meme coin is?
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Any so the only coin I believe in is Bitcoin. And we’ve talked about this before. Right. In fact, I looked it up hoping you would bring it up. Two years ago when I was here the last time, Bitcoin was around $40,000. Today, it’s close to a hundred thousand dollars. Thousand dollars. Damn.
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This this will continue to go up, until we’re long gone. It’s very interest so I don’t believe in in shitcoins at all because if you have, Bitcoin has no CEO, there’s no one in charge of it, it’s literally tens of thousands of people around the world who run these nodes that make it open and make it run and keep it at this 21,000,000 coin limit.
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I’m totally down with Bitcoin. Okay. I’m with you. Good. But I think the shah coin thing is fascinating that anybody can create a coin. Yeah. You know, like Jamie has a a pull it up Jamie coin. I don’t know if you know that.
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Well, but you I did not make it. Ai put that on me.
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You Do not Sai let’s stop there now. I mean, now that you just said it, now that we just said it, because we brought it up yesterday with the Boneyard ai, with John Reeves.
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Mhmm.
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And, we sai, you should have your own coin. Get it the Boneyard coin. And now, apparently, somebody made one.
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So this is you bring this up in context of scams because they are scams. The way it works Trouble. So if if I wanted to make a quick quick amount of money, I’d have a a a shah coin ai have my bots ready, and I’d say, hey, Joe. Have you heard about my my Currycoin? And And you’d be like, no. Wait a and it would come out, and it would skyrocket. My bots would sell it.
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I would make a lot of money, and it’ll be dumped right away. It’s a scam over and over and over again. If you don’t sell it? Yeah. Then then you’ll have, empty bits worth nothing.
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But if you so it’s only available for pump and dumps?
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That’s what that’s the only thing it’s good for. It’s it’s not good for anything else.
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What about if you wanted to use it to finance charity?
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Is it possible Bad idea. Bad idea. Is
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that a bad idea?
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Yeah. You know, a lot of charities now, they will accept Bitcoin. And why is that good? Because people who have Bitcoin and I have some Bitcoin. You know, I’ve I’ve been saving my Bitcoin for a long time. Instead of selling it to which I then have to pay capital gains over the difference between what I bought it for and sold it at, I can give it to the charity.
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I can still take my my tax deductible write off. They can do one of two things. They can convert it right away into dollars, no capital gains because it’s the same the same minute. So I’ve actually been able to give more than I would have, or oops. Or they can, they can sell some of it and hold some of it for a longer term. Ai really, really believe in Bitcoin and what we’re seeing now.
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There is something interesting going on. Our dollar is in big, big trouble, and president Trump knows this. This this falls into kind of the tariffs, talk. Have you heard about stablecoins? No. Okay. Do you mind if I just give you a little Go ahead. Sure.
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Our monetary system, it really started after World War two ai forty four. We were nearing the end of the war. D Day was coming. I mean, it just happened. It was we’re getting pretty close.
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And, Europe in particular was very worried that after the war, they would fall into the same Great Depression that happened after World War one when we had the Great Depression. So they brought in all the, all the economists and all the money, and people got on to Queen Mary and went to the stage to Bretton Woods.
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You’ve heard of Bretton Woods, probably? No. The Bretton Woods system? Okay. So Bretton Woods is just this resort.
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They all got together, and they decided that they would have a new monetary system for the entire world. I’m not an economist, but I’ve I’ve looked at this long enough to understand it. And, when they came out after two weeks, it’s okay. We’re gonna have this thing called the International Monetary Fund, the IMF, and they’re going to, manage the interest rates or they manage the currency exchange between all the individual countries with the US dollar as the reserve currency.
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So we became the money of the world, and we back it by gold. And the idea was $1 could always be exchanged for 35 ounces of gold. And, you know, when you’re the reserve currency, everyone has to have the dollar. So everybody wanted our dollar. What did we do? We signed the Marshall Plan.
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01:34:37
We sent tens, you know, just billions of dollars over. All our companies went into Europe, started building factories. And and, you know, so all so the dollar kept going in. All these other currencies kinda came a little bit weaker because we were so strong with our money. And then people got a little worried about the dollar. They looked around and went ai, hey. Do you guys have the gold to back that up in Fort Knox?
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Of course, we didn’t because we just kept printing money and sending it over. And then you get into this thing called the the Triffin dilemma. And that means that when you are the reserve currency, your currency is basically overvalued, and you can’t export anything. And that’s exactly I know Ai skipping over a lot, but that’s where we are today.
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01:35:18
Our products are too expensive to ship to China and sell in China because of the value of our dollar. This is why president Trump is saying, hey. All our money is flowing out towards you. We need to get some of that back, so we’re gonna raise tariffs. I think it’s a short term solution.
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So I think, two things will happen. One is we have this sovereign wealth fund, which you’ve heard him talk about, the sovereign wealth fund.
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Mhmm.
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So in that will be the value of, you know, our our public land that the government owns and all kinds of other things. It’ll be valued at this astronomical amount. And in that will also be the strategic Bitcoin reserve that the president, promised. Now he gets stablecoins. This is this is a crazy, crazy thing that’s happened. There’s this so a stablecoin is a digital dollar. It’s it’s pegged to the dollar, so it’s always a dollar.
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01:36:12
And you can pay with this through the Internet, through, you know, apps and everything. It’s already being used all over the world. The only reason it’s worth a dollar is because the stablecoin company that creates it, they have debt and paper to back it up. So they buy America’s debt.
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01:36:31
They get treasury bonds or T bills, which actually pays, a a dividends. You get interest on that. And for each dollar they have bought in treasuries, they can create a stablecoin. So if you look at the company Tether, they have bought more of The United States debt than most countries. They have a hundred and $60,000,000,000 worth of US debt.
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And for each of those dollars, they’ve created a stablecoin, which now people can use all over the world transacting.
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Woah.
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And what’s their business? There’s, like, 50 people in the company. So they have a hundred and $60,000,000,000 at 4% interest annually. They’re making bank just for just for holding this debt. So I think president Trump is very smart, and he’s seen that we can flood the world with our stable coin, and you ai of get a two for one.
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01:37:24
So you you you create you create a dollar of debt, but then you create another dollar on top that can be used all over the world as our as the reserve currency. And that should probably result in, I don’t know, the the Mar A Lago Accord or some new monetary system that we’re going to have to come up with, to really have our dollar be valued properly, but also still remain the reserve currency and remain the strong export country that we need to be because, you know, what do we do?
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01:37:56
We don’t make anything that that we sell abroad. You know, we we can’t all be, you know, serving each other burgers and fries and and washing each other’s cars and cleaning each other’s homes. We have to we have to build something. And all of that went overseas. Everything. Everything we got. All of the stuff on this table.
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This, you know, it didn’t come out of his butt. This is from China. Although, I don’t know. So there’s something big coming, really big. And it has to happen.
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And Trump is a very meta guy. People misunderstand. He under he’s gonna refi the country. That’s what he he’s a real estate guy. He’s gonna he’s gonna figure out a way to refi it, and it’ll it’ll be digital.
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01:38:40
And a lot of the Bitcoiners don’t like this because they like Bitcoin to be the money that the whole world uses. You know, that may one day happen, but, you know, now it’s more like the digital gold. You know, you can you can keep your your value in it. And, you know, I can send a billion doll if I had it, I could send a billion dollars to another country, to another person in ten minutes and, you know, no one can stop me.
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01:39:03
So it’s a very useful tool, but it hasn’t quite turned out to be money or currency, the way it was originally intended. But it’s going to be a very important part of it. I think you’ll see Bitcoin, be a part of that strategic reserve. It’s very it’s easier than sending gold, you know, than, oh, I’m gonna ship you a billion dollars worth of gold. I need, you know, armored cars.
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01:39:24
I need dudes, everything, security and the ships and whatever. So it’ll be a part of it, and you’ll still be able to use it between people. But it looks to me like stablecoin, Tyler in particular, is going to be the the future of of the US dollar payments. And this is where a lot of people on the ai, certainly, are very afraid of control grids, you know, because a stable coin is not necessarily like Bitcoin.
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01:39:59
You can stop it. You can control it. You can see who sent what to whom. Mhmm. But there’s a lot of fear about this, and particularly, although I don’t see any maliciousness, this fear that Elon or the PayPal mafia and Peter Thiel, all guys you’ve met, all guys you’ve had on the show, I think, are actually quite nice people.
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01:40:17
That they’re going to bring in the new with Ai, and we’re all gonna be locked in and, you know, Stargate will bring cancer mRNA vaccines that’ll be mandated. I mean, people are spinning up over this stuff. And I’m not saying that they’re necessarily wrong or there should be no concern, but we are moving towards a digital dollar, and it will have aspects of control, which is why I like the backup of Bitcoin sai I can still transact and do things without anybody being able to stop it.
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01:40:48
And you’re gonna get none of that with a shit coin. Nothing.
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01:40:51
When FTX, that scandal, what what were they trading in? Was that all meme coins? Was that different cryptos? Is there is there a difference between meme coins and established crypto coins?
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Well, an an established anything but Bitcoin has someone who can who can change the ledger, who can change the blockchain. Bitcoin, you can’t do that. It has it’s it’s a beautiful system. The checks and balances are immutable. I mean, that that’s the beauty of of Bitcoin. Any other blockchain that is owned or operated by a company or people can be and will be manipulated, and FTX was one of those.
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01:41:31
What I believe FTX was really used for was slush fund into Democrat party and politician, not just vatsal to some Republicans as well. That kid that Ram Bankman Fried, he got abused by his parents, I think. I’m just alleging this. I don’t wanna get sued over it. But when you see what what was going on there and the money that was just being, you know, slush right through into different foundations.
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Democratic operatives. Right?
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Big time. They had they had nonprofits and all kinds of,
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And he was the number two donor to the Democratic Party.
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That’s right.
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Which is very That’s right. And you’re doing that to kind of buy your way through this
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That’s what it seemed like to me.
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Yeah. Because you’re doing shenanigans, you know.
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Big time.
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And And they’re all also doing amphetamines and ai relationships in The Bahamas. Like
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01:42:17
It’s a polycule, Joe. It’s just a polycule. I mean, it it it was it was sad for these kids because they were just all excited and doing stuff and, you know I mean, when I’ve been in I’ve raised money from Kleiner Perkins and Sequoia Capital. And, you know, when you get them all googly gaga over, oh, this guy was so cool.
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01:42:39
He was sitting in the pitch meeting, and he was playing a video game. He’s such a genius. I mean, what? Are you kidding me?
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Right.
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01:42:46
Venture capital investors are not necessarily the most sophisticated.
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Well, they want results. And if they’re getting results, they’ll put on the blinders.
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What I I I was just reading about Elizabeth Holmes.
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Oh, yeah. I love that story.
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She got screwed. She got screwed? Oh, yeah.
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How so?
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Well okay. So she was in a situation where the the so called smartest investors in the world, which included Colin Powell and, you know, everyone was in on this deal. Everyone’s like, you gotta meh your money in now. You know, bring everybody in. We got this big fund. This is gonna be it. This is the blood test.
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It’ll change medicine. And, you know, they hyped her up. They put her in the magazines. They got on you know, she’s looking like the female Steve Jobs, and she got caught up in it.
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And and falsified ai away from her. Shah changed her voice. She started dressing like Steve Jobs. She started lying about results. This is She fired people that didn’t go along with it.
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Yes. But does she deserve to go to jail for ten years for ripping off people who were stupid?
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Yes. Really? Well, you can’t rip people off. I think you Like, it’s fraud. Restitution
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and things that you can do.
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Millions of dollars people lost. Like, that’s not restitute. You don’t have that money. You’re not gonna pay it back because your product sucks. Sai they’ve dumped all this money and lost.
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It’s a
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civil it’s a civil crime and there’s there’s definitely some blame on the investors, but the investors were too big to look stupid. So I think they pushed a little bit more on her than she does. I’m not trying to defend her her fault, but she can’t vatsal? Yeah. But not for ten years.
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How long? Couple days?
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Yeah. Just a couple days. Yeah. Just just enough to transition, Joe. Yeah. Just enough to come become a dude, and then we’re good to go. No. I mean, the it’s just another example of of big money being stupid. And they maybe they could just admit that. You know, like, they pushed her.
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I know how it goes. I know I remember we had a pod show, which was, you know, a lot of sophisticated investors, Kleiner and, and Sequoia. You know, this is, like, sai people Elon. I met Elon when, when they launched the Tesla. I was at the at the hangar where they where they did the first test drive. It was it was interesting.
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And I was like, this guy seems ai on the spectrum. He’s not really talking much.
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It’s like it’s like,
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what’s going on here? You know? It’s like, what’s happening with this? And, you know, so we were doing podcasting. So this is right after maybe a year after Steve Jobs put it into into iTunes and the and the ai, and and sai there was money coming in and, you know, the first thing they said is, you’ve gotta be in San Francisco.
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Well, if you want a media company, where’s the last place you wanna be in San Francisco? You need to be LA or New York. No. No. No.
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You gotta be here. And Why
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do they want you to be in San Francisco?
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So they could come and see the office and check out the operation and make sure their money is being spent well. Oh.
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And How often are they gonna visit?
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Oh, you have no idea. They’re always dropping bryden, like, what’s going on? And so you’re doing reports and it’s No.
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They just wanna hang out with the cool guy.
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That well, that too maybe. But then, you know, it it it was definitely a struggle. We were actually kind of profitable for a bit there, but it it was, you know, like GoDaddy ads with promo codes. Mhmm. You know, code Bongino. I mean, it was like, you know, it was ai, yeah. Is it are people really listening? Are they just using the codes?
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There was there’s always a lot of scams in With
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the Honey scam?
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Well, no. Not like that. No. There’s there’s scams of, you know, when companies need to we didn’t do this. But when companies need to raise more money in Silicon Valley, then they’ll buy some traffic from bots. And I’m sure it happens on with comedy videos too. People, like, I need some traffic on this video. Let me buy some bots on something.
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Sana do that. Right?
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Right. Of course. Yeah. But then at a certain point, YouTube had come out, you know, and, oh, YouTube. Everyone has to do video now. You gotta do video. You can’t do audio. You gotta do video. And then it got even worse. Like, we sat in a in a board meeting, ai, have you seen Juiced? Juice?
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I’m ai, do you remember Juiced? No. J o o s t?
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Oh, yeah.
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There was the ai who who built Skype. They built this video platform that was basically a peer to peer streaming television shows.
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Mhmm.
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And there was no doubt about it. You’ve got to go video, be more like Juice, make your interface like Juice. So the at a certain point, you’re like, well, what am I gonna do? Am I gonna risk running out of money? Am I gonna listen to what they say? Do they really know what they’re talking about? And, ultimately, you know, the company ran for ten years and no one exited.
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You know, it just kind of got folded into other things. So it was not a great investment, of their money or my time, honestly.
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Well, it’s kind of amazing that the big video platform is still just YouTube. And now, you you know, YouTube just passed Netflix now. It’s the most watched thing on television.
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Oh, they’re they’re the big they’re not even counted in the streaming, data, in the streaming wars. But, yeah, they’re the big I have YouTube TV. I don’t I cut the cable. I don’t watch I don’t have cable anymore. It’s ai I’m just
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I watch YouTube on TV more than I watch anything. Because there’s so much variety. There’s so many different things you can search. The fact that you could essentially find anything like, if I’m interested in, you know, some particular region of the world of ancient history, I just punch that into YouTube, and I have hundreds, if not thousands of videos on it.
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It took them a long time, to get I think to make that profitable inside of Google because if you if you see how many videos are being uploaded daily and transformed into digital video and I mean, it’s it’s crazy the amount of computation that goes into YouTube and the amount of bandwidth that is being sent. So I think it took a long they never really reported the numbers. They’ve only done that in the past couple years or how much revenue.
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Now, of course, YouTube is is making bank. I mean, it’s really it’s an incredible shocking that
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no one has come up with anything even remotely
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would take too much money. It’s so much investment that goes into doing that. It’s it’s it’s a lot. I mean, you remember your bandwidth cost back in the day pre Spotify. Mhmm.
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You
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know, think how how do you solve that when you have a hundred million videos being posted every single day.
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Yeah. You can’t.
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I mean You would
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you would have to have billions of dollars in startup money. And then and then you’re still struggling to get people to use your app. Like, ram remember that one company that came up? Was it Quibi? What was it?
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The one
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shah is
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that what it was? They spent so much money.
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Was it was it Katzenberg? Katzenberg and, I do not remember. It was a Hollywood thing. It was called
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a Hollywood thing. It was a Hollywood thing. I think
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it was Quibi Jay.
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And they got a bunch of famous people to do short videos.
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Short short drama. And they put $2,000,000,000 in and
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Yeah. Gone. They blew
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it real quick. Because you can’t
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You can’t manufacture something that goes
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viral. No. You can’t. And that’s kind of like TikTok. We talked about TikTok last ai, I think, while I was here. And, you know, obviously, it’s not an issue now that China is spying through TikTok because it’s still here. I think, as I told you then, I I think it’s because they were eating Silicon Valley’s lunch, you know, doing $4,000,000,000 taking away revenue from them.
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And just looking at the people who sponsored the bill, it seemed like they had a lot of, donations from Google and Amazon. You know, that just seemed to me like there might be some some issues there. But what people misunderstand about TikTok is it’s not just about the videos and the and the format and how it flies by. It’s about the shop.
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The shop is their magic sauce. The if you look at the back end, the influencers who get paid on TikTok, they have this whole back end with rankings and who sold more stuff. Half the videos on TikTok, once you get out of your algo, half of them are about products. And people are, you know, just selling products, and it’s all from Ai, and it’s all been coming in under the $800 de minimis, tax regulation.
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So there’s no there’s no import duty or anything paid on it. They they actually have I think TMU now has warehouses in Meh. So it’s just Chinese crap that we’re buying over and over again as wildly successful. It’s not really about the ads on, on do you get ads on TikTok? A lot
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of ads?
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Ai don’t
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use a TikTok. Okay.
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Good. Yeah. I got so when it was gonna go away, I’m like, I gotta get this app. I gotta see what happens. You know? I was like, this is gonna be crazy. So I get the app, and I’m using my, my GrapheneOS phone sai I can lock off all access. All it all it had was my location. Can’t hide that from the IP address and my name.
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Sai, Ai can get TikTok on a Graphene phone?
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01:51:35
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you can actually block it from accessing your contacts, block
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it But still, that was too much for you. You had to go to a flip phone. That’s interesting.
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Well, that was my it’s my experimental thing.
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And
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so all it knew was Adam Curry in the Hill Country, and it went I think it went Curry, black name, Hill Country. There’s probably about 50 churches where he is. Boom. Right away. I’m getting black preachers, brim hellstone, brim oh, yeah. And it’s just ai and on and on and on.
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It’s been phenomenal. So and some of these guys are pretty good. The ones that fall back, you know, it’s like and the guy catches them every single time. And so their algorithm is just give that person more of what they want. They’re not they’re not trying to do like us, ai, in like, you know, meh or, I’m not sure about x, how that works, but let me inject some people who are against it or have a counter, a counter argument.
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Ai, when, when I was on the last time and I talked about my my coming to Jesus, dude, there were TikTok videos with millions of views of just this, you know, this is one bit. And and if you looked at it one time, it just you get the same over and over again. They get all kinds of Jesus stuff back and forth.
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That’s all. Not anyone going, yeah. You guys are crazy. You know, this is no good. None of that. Mhmm.
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So it’s a very friendly it’s ai of the Chinese model. You know, it’s ai, give people what they want and don’t try to interject them or spin them up or get them angry and then throw an ad in their face when they’re all emotional. So it’s very different. It’s very different. Ai I don’t know if it’ll be worth anything to anyone buying it unless you have the shop portion.
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Without that, I
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don’t know. I don’t know. Think they’d have all that too?
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I mean, if
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you You gotta have you
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gotta have the products. You gotta have the cheap Chinese products. That’s what that’s that’s the problem. It’s ai, do you have that that stuff? I meh,
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you to be buying them from China.
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Yeah. It’s it’s fun for, you know, for us, like, oh, you know, different crazy people. I mean, Dvorak use it all the time. He’s he’s in an algo of just nut jobs. You know, he’s ai, blue hair. Look at this. He plays clips on the show. I’m like, dude, you gotta you gotta do something else with your life during the day.
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It’s just watching amazing how many of those kooky people are getting so much traction. And that was the thought that it was a Chinese sai that they were accentuating all these people and that was, like, ruining the culture of America because it was showing you all these blue haired psychopaths with beards and lipstick and
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But it’s really polish. It’s really so I heard the same thing from I heard people saying, dude, you’re wrong. They wanna get rid of TikTok because that’s where MAGA lives. I’m like, And then it because that’s all they got. They got MAGA. Right.
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And then
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because that’s what offends them.
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So they didn’t get that. Exactly. Sai it’s just it’s just it’s very social media the Internet in general was kind of a bad idea. It’s it’s kind of hurt it’s good for many things, but there’s two sides of the same coin. It’s good and bad. I mean,
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Why would
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you say it’s a bad ai, though? I think it’s a great idea.
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01:54:35
Well
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I mean, you were just talking about the shift the balance of information.
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Because of the ai ops. If we’re not aware of the psy ops, you know, the Mhmm. DARPA, the Defense Agency Research Project Agency. Agency.
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I had
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too many agencies in there. DARPA. Yeah. Since the seventies, they’ve been looking at social networks. And, really, in the there’s a, ah, there’s a ai. He can’t count with the law of large numbers. And they’ve they figured out that in a computer network, regardless of the content, depending on if you have enough nodes, you can predict where the information will flow. Mhmm.
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So, if I’m talking about something here, if they boost the right nodes, they can predict where that information will go. And that’s that’s how yeah. I don’t think even Elon can stop that from happening. It’s not an algorithm thing. It’s it’s literally ai a law of nature thing that just it that’s the way it will flow, and you can start injecting things to the right nodes, and you’ll propagate some message.
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And Ai mean, it I think it’s happening all the time everywhere. I mean, once you start looking, it’s like, oh, where’s that coming from?
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Well, I think we need to educate people on how to how to digest social media. And, you know, I think you should treat it the same way you treat junk food. Mhmm. You know, and I think there’s certain aspects of social media that are really interesting, and I like them. I mean, most of what I get on social media is what my friends send me. So that’s how that’s how I do it. Sure.
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And this is how I stay sane. Mhmm. It’s ai my friends send me wacky things and I go, oh meh god, what is this? Ai, my me and my friend, Christina Przycki, she sends me, like, the the nuttiest, like, trans activist screaming and nutty guys who think that they’re women. And then, me and Tom Segura, we exchange, murder videos. Murder Oh. And, and car accidents and animal attacks. And then, you know Before breakfast? No.
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I try not to in the morning, but sometimes Sai have to check my text message because I have business stuff. I have
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some
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things things going on, you know, guests and this and that. And so Ai do check, but, you know, it’s just it’s very intoxicating to just sit there on the toilet and just start scrolling.
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Toilet scroller.
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But you gotta, you know, you gotta develop discipline. And discipline is important for every aspect of your life. You just you have to know, like, when you’ve had too much.
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But that’s that’s not easy for young kids, you know.
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Right. It’s not. But I think they can learn just like they’ve learned everything else in this world.
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And I think that parental guidance and most of the parents are hooked on it themselves.
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Well, I think they need a message, you know. And I think this conversation is part of that message. You know, I think kids need to realize, like, you are wasting time. Like, if you spend two hours just scrolling through TikTok, you have wasted time. And there’s stuff that you probably should be doing, and you’re gonna be depressed if you don’t do those things. You’re gonna feel weird. You’re not gonna feel satisfied.
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You’re not gonna feel like you’re on a good path. You’re gonna, like, not have a lot of, respect for yourself. If you just, like, sit on the couch all day and scroll through TikTok, which many people listening to this have done a whole day. Just sitting there eating chips
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Mhmm.
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Scrolling through TikTok Yep. And just wasting your day. That is possible to do. I think there’s ways that you can incorporate it into your life where it’s interesting, you know. And I’ve got good algorithms now, especially on YouTube, but pretty good algorithms on Instagram too, where most of the stuff it’s showing me is stuff I’m actually interested in.
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So Do
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you get those videos when you’re interested in a topic, and then there’ll be, like, five different videos that are being suggested to you in about five minutes, and you’re like, this is just an AI voice that’s that’s cobbled a whole bunch of old things together, and it’s a new version of it. And
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I’m not learning anything.
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01:58:30
Yeah. There’s a lot of that.
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There’s always those too. Ai lot of that. I think YouTube is the best because, like, I’m interested in specific subjects. Right? Like, I’m a car nut. I love old cars
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in specific Mhmm. Particular. This, by the way, lots of people love restored things.
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Mhmm.
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People love restored cars. We love you have I I think do you still have your car?
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Which one?
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01:58:53
The Corvette? Oh, yeah. I mean, beautifully restored. Just just speak last time I saw it, which was, I think, in LA. Yeah. This is what I think the president is doing. He’s trying to restore us back to being that great American muscle arya. And I think people everybody loves a beautiful restored muscle car.
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You know
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what I mean?
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Well, Meh making real muscle cars right now. Like, this is one of the rare times where America’s got very exciting automobiles that are out now. You know, we we’ve talked a bunch of times the Corvette z r one, which is breaking all these laps.
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01:59:30
That’s the is that the mid engine?
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It’s the mid engine
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01:59:33
Mhmm.
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01:59:33
1,000 horsepower Corvette
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that that
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01:59:36
Tina won’t let me buy one. I’m ai, let me know.
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Why not? Why not? She’s just You gotta put your foot down. Down.
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No. No. I’m good. I’m good.
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No. No. No.
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No. No. No. No. No.
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She’s like, that’s a douchebag car. So, yeah, for me, it would be kinda douchey. Why?
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Yeah. I meh, Ai That’s awesome. Don’t think that way.
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That’s silly. Ever since I started flying 350 miles an hour, I don’t care about how fast they go on the ground, Joe.
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It’s not even how fast you go. It’s just But that’s why I like old cars because it’s not even how fast
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I had a c ai, though. I did have a long time ago. Those are cool. Yeah. They were they were
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a little shitty, actually. C seven was
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02:00:12
That heads up display was cool, though. It was like Oh,
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c five had a heads up display? Yeah. It had a heads up display. Look at that. That’s the
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new one.
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That’s the z r one. Come on, son. That is not a douchebag car.
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That’s a goddamn miracle car. Yeah.
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That’s a fucking American worker
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car. Yeah. Yeah. It’s nice. Can can I get my dog in as well?
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Look at that.
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Ai can I get my dog? Ninety five pounds.
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02:00:31
What is he?
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02:00:32
She is
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a Shah.
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A great
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Pyrenees Akbash rescue mutt. Oh, that’s cute. Completely white.
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I didn’t mean to misgender your dog.
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02:00:40
Yeah. She looks very angry.
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Look how awesome that looks, man. You don’t have to take your dog everywhere. Reward yourself, Adam Curry. Get a pod father. Get a fucking Corvette. Look at that thing. That’s beautiful. Cockpit inside of that thing.
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02:00:52
That is beautiful.
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And the performance of that is unparalleled. It’s like it’s an amazing automobile.
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A friend of mine, he just we because he’s a real American car nerd.
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Ai hero.
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He just bought a Look at that. A Tesla model three. Okay. And he bought it for the autopilot. He says, I wish this came in 16 cylinder, you know, multi turbo. He says Oh, yeah. But he says the autopilot, he just loves that. He loves the autopilot.
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I have a s, the Plaid. I have a Plaid Tesla, the four door larger sedan Yeah.
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Plaid. Does it have the autopilot? Yeah. Full self ai? It’s incredible.
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Ai don’t use it that much. I like to drive. But just the capability of the car is amazing. Yeah. The speed and the effortlessness in which it merges with traffic and just takes off
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02:01:37
with no sound. It’s beautiful, man. It’s beautiful. Yeah.
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But it’s different. So I like Yeah. I like old air cooled Porsches.
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I had another 11 a long time ago.
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They’re not fast. They’re not fast in
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because you’re a vatsal. Manual. Yeah. With the big The trunk clutch ai, you gotta push that thing in.
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Well, it’s they’re floor mounted too. They’re different. They’re old Porsches are different. But it’s, what they are is, a physical experience.
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Yeah.
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It’s like a ride. It’s a fun exhilarating experience where you hear the. You hear the engine. You’re shifting the gears yourself. It’s exciting and engaging. And that is more important to me sometimes than just speed. Like, I don’t need to go fast. It’s not even about going fast.
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It’s about The whole the whole experience.
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Yeah. You’re feeling the rear end speak a little with your ass. You know, is it Can’t do that anymore
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in these modern cars, man. It doesn’t work anymore. We used to put Porsche engines into VW buses back in the day. Jesus. That was awesome. That
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was probably
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You could
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all you can fit it in a in a Beetle too. You can fit you can fit a Porsche engine into a boat.
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Oh, yeah. A lot of people done crazy Beetle transformations where they’ve hyped up Porsche engines and put them in the back of those things.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. There’s a whole, like, modding community of Beetle freaks that take Beatles and
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They’re Volkswagen. They’re Volkswagen. Remember how many there were in the seventies coming in from Germany? We all had a I had a 13 o three. I loved my Beetle. It was Yeah. When I was
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a kid, my friend Jimmy had one. He had a he had a Beetle. It was just cheap on gas. It was easy to drive.
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And mine was, like, I like, I had to jump start it because the lock had bryden.
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Sai, like So you
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jump arya every time you got in?
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Every time you got in, and then I’d lost my gas cap, and so I’ve just had a rag in there. Oh, god. And, and if I went, around the highway to the right and if my tank was too full, then gas would leak out and my front tire would start to slide off.
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That’s like Jesus.
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It was the back, you know, we were 18, you know Yeah. You know, just like, hey. I gotta drive this thing. It was great. I love that
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and you were going outside to do things and people did physical activities. But then as we got older, we recognized that there’s this new technology that’s connecting the whole world in this weird way, and we’re getting to experience it as people who know the world before that.
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Mhmm. I think we’re real lucky.
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Well, you’re you’re a big part of of of a change certainly in young men. I mean, I’ve seen so many young men who, follow you and follow your workout regime and follow you know, listen to you. They listen to you about what you’re saying about health, about food, and that’s a that’s a real you’re an important voice in that regard.
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You’ve really, really, helped a lot of young men in our country and far beyond. It I mean, I know you don’t take compliments like this well, but just you’re it’s it’s very important
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what you’re doing.
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But I’m
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very happy.
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That’s true.
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Very important what you’re doing.
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There’s a lot of young men that just feel, like, real disconnected to the world. Nothing seems to be anything that is interesting to them, and they’re being pushed into this box where someone’s trying to turn them into a fucking chihuahua. You know? Like, this is like the evolution of the wolf into the dog. That’s what’s happening with men. Like, for some reason, men are supposed to be neutered.
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You know, there’s, in the sai so I’ve been ever since Ai, I got saved and become a believer, there I’ve really learned about our American history, and I’ve been blown away by how much because because a lot of you know, you can talk about the sixties and when they outlawed psychedelic drugs and put it on schedule one. That was the exact same time when the Ai was basically taken out of school, and it was, you know and and, I think the church in general, you know, kind of went into itself and kind of, you know, became, you know, a thing you do over there on Sundays.
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Can we pause real quick? Because I have
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to take a deep breath.
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Yeah. You gotta speak. Yeah. Let’s pause. We’ll come back. We’ll talk about Jesus. We’ll be right
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back.
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Yeah. Alright. We’re back.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man.
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Much better. Right?
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Thank you. Thank you.
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So we were gonna talk about the vaping thing because you’re saying that there’s nothing wrong with vaping.
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Well, I didn’t say there’s nothing wrong with vaping.
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What is that? Meh me can I see it? Yeah. Of course. Can I
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hold it?
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Yeah. So this is a brick.
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I mean, you could hurt somebody with this. If you sana fuck somebody up Well if you get a good grip Yeah. Yeah.
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No. You just yeah. It’s like a brass knuckles almost. You know, ai holding a a roll of pennies.
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Yeah. This no. You wouldn’t do that. You’re gonna break your hand. That’s all silly.
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That’s why I I carry my gun.
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That’s probably better. It’s the The
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meh is That’s the battery. The battery This is heavy. So it’s
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Ai you take a pull of this? Yeah. Yeah.
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So it’s
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the top How do
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you do it?
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The top button.
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Press it.
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Yep. Press it and just suck.
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What was the the flavor of this? Tobacco ish.
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Tobacco ish. Yes. Tobacco, basically. So
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That was a little hit.
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Yeah. You you ai You take a big one. Right? Let let it warm up a little bit. Tyler Let it yeah. Press the button and then yeah. There you go. It’s it’s cracking. Yeah. Yeah. Go. Go. Go. Go. There you go.
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Oof. That’s definitely different than the gas station ones.
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Oh, you don’t want those. This is organic juice. It’s got 0.3 mill percent, nicotine. I wind my own coil made out of silver. The cotton is Meh made cotton, not from China. No. I’ve I’ve got into this.
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Yeah. Cotton? What’s the cotton for?
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So if you look at the the mechanism see?
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Okay.
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So the cotton sucks up the juice, and then the coil warms up.
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So the cotton’s ai the filter?
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No. The cotton has the juice in it, and then when the coil worms warms up, it creates the vapor from the juice that’s in it.
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So do you have to constantly refresh the cotton?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Sai you just dumped your cotton in the juice?
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No. No. No. No. It’s, the The juice is inside. It’s in the tank. Yeah. It has little wires in there. Sai it’s the coils.
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New cotton in every now and again? Yeah.
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And I unwind a new coil from time to time.
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Long do
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you have to wait before you put new cotton in?
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Yeah. It depends. I do it usually at once every couple of days.
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That doesn’t give me the weird head rush that the gas station ones do. That’s Chinese crap. That’s the what I like though.
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I like that. Ai. Well, good luck to you.
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I would like the first hit. That’s what you like off those the gas station vapes. It’s like you’re chasing the dragon. You get that first hit and you’re ai first hit’s ai, So it’s So relaxing. And then after that, you never get that again.
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So I really got into this. There was a store in Fredericksburg called Vaporlicious. They’ve retired now. They’ve ai, Jerry and Kathy, and they’re two old hippies from,
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a Why do they make it so unwieldly? Well, you can get
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all kinds of different versions, but I’m a serious user, so I need this whole battery. I have a whole kit with me, man. I got a screwdriver to open this up.
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And then does it work with your lungs or your health or anything like that?
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No. I’ve I’ve never felt this good.
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Okay.
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And so this is different juice. So what is the juice? Because the thing about the the the actual oil is the issue. Right? Yeah. And this is a thing ai a lot of these cheap ones that you’re buying off the gas station.
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Know what’s in there. This is this is glycol, which is it’s essentially the same stuff that’s in the theatrical mist machines.
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Okay.
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Only much watered down. And and all it does is just produce vapor. And so what is vapor? Well, it’s mainly water. And, of course, you’re mixing it with nicotine. And nicotine, you know, that’s that’s the piece that I’ve always liked, about smoking. But now I don’t get the tar.
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I don’t get all other contaminants, and I also don’t get high. You ai? I stop. Ai I kinda stop. I used to smoke a lot of weed. Yeah.
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I stopped. It’s just I haven’t felt like doing it anymore, you know, like a glass of wine, but no. And so this yeah. I do have gorilla grip on it. It’s ai everywhere I go, I’m like, where’s my vape? Where’s my vape?
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So I’m fully fully aware I’m addicted to more the the motion of it because, I mean, I would I would roll up, you know, I could roll them with one hand behind my back. I’ve been doing it so long. So a real spliff with tobacco, with weed. Mhmm. And then it will go out, and I put it down, and I come up, pick it up again. At a certain point, it was ai three in the morning.
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I’d wake up, like, I think I’ll go roll it roll a joint. You know, Ai smoke a whole spliff, go back to bed. I mean, it got to be a little I was smoking a lot. You know? And without it, I’m very productive, Joe. Ai got that crazy. I gotta tell you.
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I’m super productive. I’m Well, nicotine
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is very good for productivity. And for me caffeine.
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It can well, those are those are my two drugs, you know, caffeine and nicotine. I I kinda I kinda dig it. I really do.
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It’s They’re very good for productivity. Yeah.
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Is it is there any bad stuff? I mean, I know it it, constricts your blood flow, in your mouth and in other parts, probably. I mean, obviously, you’re putting something in your ram. So it I don’t know. But you like those, those pouches?
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Yeah. I do. But I Ai wanted to see what happens if I took time off and I went out of the country for five days and didn’t bring them and I was fine. Didn’t bother me at all. I was like, I was I was wondering if I’d ai, like, itching
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for one.
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Like, I’m okay on the plane. I can fly to Europe. I’m like, you know, I’m I’m okay. I don’t I don’t need to vape. Can you
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go to
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the bathroom or just
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get a quick one in there on the plane?
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You know, this is a very bad idea If you do not wanna be caught vaping on the plane.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. Of course, I have Did
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that set off a fire alarm?
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I don’t know. Can you blow
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it right into the toilet?
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No. It’s you can do what they call zero zero zero vape, which is basically you inhale and you just hold it in
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Until that
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until nothing comes out.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. Or, you know, I’ve done one of these, like
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And they go on their jacket. Yeah. I know. I’ve seen people do that at the movie theaters stuff.
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That is not approved behavior, so I do not condone that. You know? It’s okay. I can handle not not vaping for eight hours
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a month. What’s in the gas station ones when you’re getting that
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Who knows?
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What’s in the oil?
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Who knows? Who knows? That’s maybe what killed some people early on in COVID. You know? It might have been bad, a lot of THC, of course, these premade cartridges. You just don’t know what’s in it. It’s ai, no. Don’t don’t vape that stuff. Do not vape the premade things. I mean, this is fun.
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You get to learn how to do it. It’s manufacturing. You know? It’s you get into I can really get into it. Like, I got this this diameter silver wire and five you know, you do ai, five loops or six loops for different impedance. Oh, yeah.
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There’s a whole I mean, this tank, you know, this thing is ai it’s you you ai different I have must have 18 different vapes that I’ve ai, and, like, this is the one.
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Somebody gave me one at one point in time. It was like it was carrying around a phone. It was like Sai was carrying around it was the size of your flip phone.
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Yeah. And I was like, this is ridiculous. That’s me, baby. That’s me.
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I don’t
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sana have
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another heavy thing in my pockets or in my fanny pack. It’s ai Yeah.
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No. I bet this is this is okay. I mean, it’s alright. And then this thing
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But you decided that the phone was too invasive even with the Graphene OS. Yeah. And you had a
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Yeah. Because you could still do everything just not being tracked. And and so I used to go to meh, you know, we go to bed at the same time. You know, we we always watch some stupid like, we’re in season seven of Seinfeld right now. You know? So we’ll watch a half hour of stupidity, and, and then we go to bed.
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And I used to be on my phone, you know, for half an hour scrolling stuff or whatever. And then, you know, okay. I’m tired. Yeah. Because my brain has been working overtime on whatever inputs I’m giving it.
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And now I’m like, well, there’s nothing to scroll, so I just go to meh, and I’m out in three seconds. I’m ai, Sai sleep. And I sleep all the way through, and I wake up in the morning. I’m refreshed. I feel good. I don’t look at social media the first hour I’m up.
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I mean, on I do bible readings and stuff and devotionals, and I ai text a buddy of ai. And I’m ready, man.
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Then
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Do you do social media in the morning?
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No. What no. Almost not at all.
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So when you do it, you do it ram, computer? Yeah. If you check it out
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at all?
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Yeah. And when you do that, one of the questions I had about that, does that do voice to text
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It can.
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From Andrew? Oh, that’s a game.
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However, of course, when you do that, Google is basically keeping your transcript. There’s a company in Austin called Futo.
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Wait a minute. So if you just text, it doesn’t keep your transcript?
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Oh, I’m sure it does. But if you I’m not sure what how much of that it does, but when you read when you speak into it, it goes to the Google servers. The Google server then ram transcribes it and sends it back to your phone. It’s not happening on the phone. It’s happening on Google servers, and they probably keep all of that ram my voice or whatever.
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There’s a company in Austin called Futo, f u t o, and they have an open source voice to text system that don’t keep your transcripts. And they’re some good guys. I’ve I’ve been messing with that. It’s not quite as fast as
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it would. Work on that phone?
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Yeah. You can install it.
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Yeah.
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Just as a extra
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T Mobile. Ever send messages with Google Voice or with with voice to text on that phone?
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I
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I’ve been using FUTO.
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Oh, you have? Yeah. On that phone? Yeah. Yeah. So I use it on my phone all the ai. Mhmm. Like, when I’m in my car, press the little button to
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Sai that will yeah. Sai, ai know, who knows what Apple’s doing or that? You don’t know.
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I mean
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Sending it it right to Ai.
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All the memes.
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Maybe. Maybe. Sai don’t know. I it’s alright. It’s okay.
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Yeah. Sai I went to Boston. You live in Boston, don’t you? Sai we went to go see the Doobie Brothers. And
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When was this?
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Last year.
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Really? They’re a lot they’re around.
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Yes. And it was wild. It was in it was in Massachusetts. It was one of these, you know, ai, amphitheaters that’s half covered.
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Mhmm.
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And we were the youngest people there. And people were just sparking weed. You could smell the whole they’re, like, 80 year old dudes smoking doobies. It was amazing. And the Doobie Brothers play, and it was ai, what? This it was the first forty five minutes is them doing this is from our album from five years ago.
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Dude, we want China Grove, you know, you know, give us saloni train running. Sai, eventually, they get into that. But then they would ai, Michael McDonald, What a Fool Believes, you know, I love that song. He would do it syncopically, like, what instead of doing the song, ai, we all remember it, he’d do, What a fool believe he ai. Like, no. No.
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Don’t do that. It was really disappointing. But the opening act was Steve Winwood. Steve Winwood’s now almost 80 years old, and I get goosebumps just thinking about it. He railed. He wailed. He did you know, mister fantasy from Traffic? Sure. Which that three quarters of that song is guitar solo.
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And he’s just ai, sana go and the crowd is going nuts. And he has all these young kids with him. And you you see the close-up on the screens, and they’re like, dude, look at look at what he’s doing. It was amazing. I bring it up because the next day did you go ai up to to Plymouth?
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Did I go to Plymouth? Yeah. Massachusetts? Ram. Plymouth Rock?
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Right. So Plymouth Rock is kinda disappointing because it’s, like, it’s a rock. It’s just a rock, and there’s a structure around it and, like, okay, you know, it’s sai rock. And there’s a little sign next to it that says, we don’t know that this was really The Rock, but some guy in church who was 90 years old at the time said, yeah, I think this was The Rock.
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So that’s The Rock. You were talking about the Georgia Guidestones a few episodes ago with somebody. Did you know that we have an actual Guidestone in America in Plymouth? No. It’s called the Monument To The Forefathers. I’d never heard of this.
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It’s about two blocks in, and it’s, I think, arguably the largest granite structure in the in Meh, certainly, but maybe in the world. It was completed in 1890, and it is the Ai of America. And if How do I not know about this? No one knows about this. This is yeah.
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Check it out. The thing is huge. Woah. And it’s literally in a in a cul de sac, a residential area. Really? There’s no road.
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How old is that?
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It was completed in 1890 after fifty years of building it. Wow. And so this is the formula for America. This is why I was going before our pee break. The formula for America this so they constructed this so that if we ever lost our way, we could find our way back. You know when they talk about Meh was built on Christian values, ai, what does that mean? What does that even mean, Christian values?
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I mean, I don’t think even the word Christian is ai, that was actually a slur back in the day that they came up with for Jesus believers. So in the middle is Faith, that’s her name, Faith, and it’s four ai. And one is, law, education, morality, and liberty, and has all these cool inscriptions.
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It’s really something amazing to sai, and I believe that’s the formula that we need to meh back. You actually you live like this. You’re Joe Rogan lives these four sides. You live you understand law, morality, education, and liberty. And if we can get back to that, you know, that would be just an in fact, so all of our all of our early presidents, all of them ai by the Bible, Congress was to print sai Bible for everybody.
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So I brought you this is done by a group called the Wallbuilders, and David Arya, he has all these are the receipts. So that’s it’s a Ai, but it has three quarters of that book is writings by our early presidents all the way up through, through Reagan. And this David Barton guy, he has all of these originals, I think he lives in Alito, Texas, and it shows you what our code was in the early days up until the sixties, and that’s when, you know, we got this big argument about, meh, we can’t have, you know, you know, the whole ai the First Amendment is the right to establish a a religion.
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And that has been perverted throughout the years to say, well, you can’t have, you know, the Bible in schools, and the government can’t tell you to do this, and you can’t be talking about they used to the the Hall of Congress used to be a church. I mean, that that’s how we started.
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And you don’t have to necessarily be a believer or saved by Jesus just to understand where we came from and the basic tenants of law where those guys created it from. You know, the receipts are in the Declaration of Independence. Our our Bill of Rights, our amendments, our ai, not that the government gives us, you know, they all say the government shall not infringe, the government may not do this.
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It’s what the government could not do because we had rights given to us by our creator. And I think if we got back to a little bit of that in America, we might get a bit more on path, which is ai, certainly, all the all the Jesus freaks are like, president God president Trump is talking about God.
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He says God saved him to to save America. I mean, this is a president is a big deal when he does stuff like that. And you can see just look at the people around us. Russell Brand, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens. I mean, there’s a lot of people who are now starting to see this. And I know you love history. That’s why I bought that for you.
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Because when you see where it comes from, a lot of things start to be clear. And that that sculpture, that was ai I had no idea it was there. I’d never heard of it. It’s not in any books, but it’s kind of a template for where we came from. And I think it’s it’s kind of important that we look at that as well as, you know, all the other things that we’re looking at now with AI and social media.
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And we can’t just be sitting around for four years going, yeah, Ram. Yeah, Elon. You know, stomp the libs. We’ve gotta find some spirituality one way or the other. It doesn’t have to be God.
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Ai would like it to be, but people ai
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find that. I think, you’re saying some wise things. Ai think that people need some sort of a moral and ethical structure to live their life through. Jordan Peterson always has this thing, ai, whether
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or not if you believe in God, if you live like you believe in God, you follow but
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you you believe in God, if you live like you believe in God, you follow about you will live a better life. And that is true. I believe it. I think
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that’s true. I believe it. Absolutely. And it’s it’s very simple
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things. Scaffolding.
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Yeah. It’s very simple things. You know? It’s the 10 commandments aren’t that hard. You know? Right. It’s ai that’s your that’s your law. If you believe that government I mean, government is an extension of of God if you believe that he in in states governments. And I think that I think that God gave us Joe Biden for four years. Ai really do. He said, y’all gotta take a look.
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He has humor too, by the way. Like, you got you should take a look. And there’s a story, I think it’s Vatsal, about King Nebuchadnezzar. And King Nebuchadnezzar, he did not follow, God’s law, and so God turned him into a donkey, basically, and he and he was out grazing for seven years eating grass.
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I’m like, that sounds a lot like president Bryden, that he just turned him into a grass eating donkey who had nothing left, you know? So this,
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Well, you have to see what happens when things go sideways to really understand it. That’s why people who grow up in poverty really can, appreciate success a lot more than someone as a trust fund kid. Right?
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Of course.
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You have to know what it’s like when things go bad. And our country just experienced four years of being governed by people other than the elected leader. And it’s pretty clear now.
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Yeah.
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And and, you know, the way Mike Johnson laid it out that Biden didn’t know what was in some of the executive I didn’t sign that. Yeah.
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Oh, no. It’s kinda crazy.
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It’s ram,
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meh. Crazy. It’s interesting because some of that, like, how much can you attribute it to faulty memory and how much of it is actually they passed things by his desk. I don’t know. But at the end of the day, we got to see that this was not a good direction. This is a terrible direction.
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I think that was, like, one of the biggest mistakes that Kamala Harris did is when she went on The View and they asked her what would you do differently, and she said nothing. Yeah. Which is crazy.
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But also look at president Trump. I mean, can you take a more wrong guy in the auspices and the opinion of presidential and everything? And he learned a lot during his first term. I mean, this was a turnaround of epic proportion. Epic proportion
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vatsal and and I know what’s What’s the biggest political comeback
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in in
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the history of the world?
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It it’ll be in the history books. It this show will be a part of that. It is going to be incredibly important for us to look back on this because, you know, like, it’s it’s often the misfits. You know, that’s that’s who we’ve gotta love the most. So when I see the blue haired people, I’m like
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Right.
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I really wanna love them. You know, they probably
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ai understand it, but Crazy chaotic energy. If they just found something they loved and pushed it into that,
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they’d be
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better off.
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But it’s
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also it’s ai what damaged them up into that point, ai, what kind of a life did they live that left them in this place where they’re 35 years old weeping in front of a city council meeting. Ai, who are they and what what went wrong? And this is the thing is ai we kind of encourage this victim mentality. We do. And we reward it.
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It has social credit
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to it.
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Mhmm. And you you, you know, you get to be in a special class of people and you get to say outrageous things and and people allow you to. And that’s not good for anybody. Just like as you have kids, you know what it’s like. Yeah. It’s not good for kids. Ai, you gotta tell them, like, well, that’s not real. You can’t do that. That’s not yours. Like, there’s things that you have to learn.
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And if you reward victim mentality, then people look to become victims. And so that like, when that lady laid out all of her fucking physical ailments and all of her problems, if it’s as if that makes any of the things she’s saying makes sense because she has all these problems.
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Like, no. That’s not that’s not how the world But
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you’re right. It’s been rewarded Rewarded. And it’s been rewarded by political operations
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Yes.
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Mainly to get votes and to bring. These people have a vote too. You know? Right. They can vote, so bring them in.
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This is a part of the SIOP of USAID. Mhmm.
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And
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the SIOP of just the government in general, these control control structures that are essentially put in place to make sure that they remain in power. Do you
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know John Perkins? Yes. Have you ever had him on?
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No. I have not.
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Oh, man. Because he wrote about this, you know
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Economic hitman.
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Yeah. Confession of economic hitman. Mhmm. Wow. I mean, basically, USAID. That’s what they do. But also state department. Mhmm. So, you know, Marco Rubio seems like a good guy. I’m kind of liking him, but there’s there’s they’ve got intelligence units inside there. There’s all kinds of things that happen with state department.
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So I hope that also gets uncovered.
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Well, Mike Benz was explaining yesterday. I was like, this is seems so intertwined. Like, how are you gonna what what can be done in four years? He goes, no. This is gonna take fifty years more. Is that That meh
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be true.
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It’s gonna take forever to unwind. Because you have to understand how deep these tentacles go. And he laid it out in four and a half hours yesterday.
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Wow.
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I probably talked for three minutes for the whole podcast. I’m not kidding. It was
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just With Mike, he got it like, can I get the transcript of the show and go over it slowly? Because he goes ai.
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Well, he’s
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He goes fast.
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The thing that will happen is viral clips of specific things that he highlights and says that are very significant are gonna go out. And those are already out. And I’m sure they’re all over x right now as we’re speaking.
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And I
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Ai love that, Doge is Ai was skeptical because, you know, we heard this during the Reagan administration. Reagan wasn’t gonna do all this. He was gonna make government efficient, and, of course, it didn’t. When I hear that they’re gonna do the same thing to the military, amen, man.
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Yeah. Well, they have to be accountable to to an audit.
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Yes. You can’t They haven’t done one ever.
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Well, the Pentagon’s failed seven of them. And the the thing is, like, fraud’s real. We know it’s real, and we know people are pilfering. And if you go unchecked for long enough, that becomes a part of the way people do business. And once that’s established and it’s been established for decades, then it’s very difficult to stop. Because as soon as you start investigating it, people go to jail.
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And so they’re gonna try to stop you from investigating it. They’re gonna they’re gonna try to, like, bury records, and it’s gonna get wild.
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As as I’m sure Mike told you, and I can’t wait to see it, it’s not just fraud. It’s it is the actual system. Instead of us being open and Ai think like Trump is doing, like, hey. We’re just gonna have tariffs on you. NATO, you don’t like it. Boom. We’re not gonna protect you. You know, we’re gonna be fair about this. You can’t just be ripping us off. We’ve been doing all these subversive thing things Mhmm.
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With money that’s just going to NGOs and nonprofits. I mean, the whole Ukraine thing.
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Mhmm. He
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highlighted all of this stuff.
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Did he did he play the Victoria Nuland, recorded phone call?
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No. He didn’t make ai statement. Showed the Biden thing where he said, you know, the the prosecutor had to be fired or they wouldn’t get the billion dollars in saloni.
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Right. Right.
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And son of a bitch.
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Well, Victoria Nuland in 2014, the Russians, I think, they released it. They recorded a phone call, and she’s literally talking to the ambassador. Okay. We wanna put this guy in the government, that guy in the government, this guy in senate. Klitsch, leave him outside. He can be the mayor or whatever.
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I mean, that’s that’s not cool. We have some stuff to repent for when all this comes out, and we should pick ourselves up and move forward and just be honest. I think we I think we can do it with a lot of honesty too.
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I hope so. But the problem is there’s a lot of people that are gonna be in deep trouble, and they’re gonna try to stop that from all this accountability.
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Was Mike bullish or bearish on it?
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Well, he’s, you know, he’s in the storm. You know, it’s ai, you don’t no one knows exactly what’s gonna happen when you’re in the middle of the hurricane. You’re telling people what’s going on, and that’s where he is right now. I mean, I asked him how do you sleep because I don’t. He needs prayers.
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He needs some prayers.
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For sure he needs that.
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Will cover him.
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And I think his, his fight is very noble, and he’s right. He’s right, and he’s accurate, and the the amount of information that ai got in his head is astounding. Yeah. And, he can he means pulling it all off the top of his head while we’re talking because he lives this constantly.
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Yeah.
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You know, used to work in the state department, uncovered all the stuff, been chasing it down forever, and it is a, you know, a legitimate historian on this.
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And it’s and thank you for giving him that platform. He’s and thank you for giving Trump a platform and all the things you’ve done. But the people, when they think of CIA and, you know, these types of agencies, they always think, you know, dart guns and, you know, secret stuff.
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But, no, it’s really subversive writing articles, and my whole family kind of comes from military and intelligence background. So I’ve heard you know what I learned? This is crazy. So my uncle was big in the CIA. He was he was the nationals he was basically Tulsi Gabbard to, Bush senior when he was VP.
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And then, you know, like, Iran Contra happened and, you know, he basically became ambassador to Korea. Moved he he was exonerated, but he was moved out to a different post. My my aunt passed away a couple years back. And when my cousin was doing her eulogy, she said, aunt Meh, well, actually outranked uncle Don in the CIA.
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She ran the Russia desk, spoke fluent Russian, but had promised never to tell anybody, not even her own kids. I’m like, what? Aunt Meg spoke fluent Russian and ran the Russia desk for the CIA and outranked uncle Don? Like, that’s some crazy stuff. Crazy.
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And all those folks, you know, they remember Russia as the real real bad guys. I mean, I went to, this is my own USAID story. So in 1988, I think it was, we had the Moscow Music Peace Festival. Do you remember that? No.
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02:31:45
And this is before the wall came down, and it was, I was the only MTV person who went we went on a seven twenty seven from Newark. It was Ozzy Osbourne, basically, Black Sabbath. It was, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Skid Row. We stopped in Germany to pick up the Scorpions.
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What was that flight like? Dude.
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So he dude. Dude. This you’ll love this.
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Look at you guys.
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Oh, yeah.
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There you go. Wow.
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So the reason
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filming things even back then.
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So the reason this happened
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was
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Look at you.
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Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Tico Torres from Bon Jovi. I mean so Doc McGee, who was the manager of Bon Jovi and Motley Crue, his I’m I’m paraphrasing the story, but I’m pretty sure it’s correct.
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That was Ozzy. Oh, really? I just realized that was Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne. Ai, who are those people?
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Look at look at Sharon. Look at Sharon. She’s like a a A kid. And ai a a British house frow. Nice roly poly. She’s not the no O face for her. So
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O face? Oh, o
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O xanmpic. Yeah. Sai
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Look at Ozzy.
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02:33:00
So so Doc McGee’s Learjet had been caught smuggling in, like, you know, bales of of marijuana into Florida. And his get out of jail free card was he was supposed to organize an anti drug and alcohol concert in Moscow. Oh. Right. So this is where I’m pretty sure USAID came into it and the CIA. And so this was supposed to be a complete drug free, alcohol free.
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We’re all gonna go there. We’re gonna do a huge one night concert. We’re there for a week. On the plane, Ozzy is so drunk. He he’s so drunk.
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He you know, so we’re we’re in the back there, and he’s he’s at the at the laboratory mid mid mid plane, and it’s someone else’s in there. And he’s like, Shah. Sher. Sher. And she’d go, oh, Ozzy. And he pees his pants right there in the aisle. Like, holy crap. Ozzy peed his pants. Shah.
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This was a wild trip, and I got a briefing beforehand by some dudes in suits. I you know, this is ’88, so I don’t you know, I wasn’t really thinking USAID CIA, and they’re like, here’s the deal. You’re gonna be there. Do not talk to any women. Don’t go to any hookers. Do not take any hookers to your room.
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They’re all gonna be KGB, and, you know, you don’t want any part of this, and and there’s gonna be our people are gonna be watching you and just making hookers. KGB hookers. We actually did go to the hooker boat, which is pretty wild.
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It was a boat?
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02:34:34
Yeah. They had a prostitute boat. The ugliest hookers in the world is ai, no. No one’s gonna Pirates. We all we all kinda went to go check them out. We’re we’re in the hotel. They had they literally this is, you know, Soviet Union still. They literally turned on the heat in that part of the city.
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It was winter. And the the mattresses were made of straw, and you had to bribe the lady for a phone call. You’d reserve it it twenty four hours in advance. You have to give her a tuna fish and toilet paper rolls. It was wild. Wow.
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Middle of the night, I’m with Sebastian Bach ram, Skid Row. We’re outside. We go to Red Square. We’re drinking vodka on Red Square at three in the morning, walk back to the hotel. There’s the Moscow Hells Angels show up, and they’re on, like, these Yugoslav ai, and they’re popping wheelies and falling off. And we’re ai, what’s going on?
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Then this this Russian official comes up with he had the really big hats, and he’s ai tap tap tap on the back of one of the merch trucks, and all he wanted was t shirts. And so, you know, he gave him a whole bunch of t shirts, everybody leaves. Crazy. So we have this concert, and the kids are go they went nuts.
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Of all the bands, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Ozzy. They all knew Ozzy. They could they were all singing phonetically. They they, you know, cries is high. They didn’t know the words, you know, but the crazy train kind of came out of their mouth.
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And and what was
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Look at this.
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Yeah. It was in you can see all the Can
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you give me some volume?
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There’s some military in front, I think. There it is. But the Lenin Stadium Look at that. And the crowd
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Flying high.
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Showed you.
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Fans stood in harmony for twelve hours to watch and listen to the likes of Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, and Skid Row, who all agreed to play
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Wow.
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So here’s the kicker. The Scorpions had a number one hit, Winds of Change.
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The winds of change.
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You don’t remember the song? And it was the only song they did not ai, and that song was the anthem when the wall came down, which happened lit oh, here you go. The sai ra Did the CIA
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There you go. Our ballad to bring down the USSR? Yep. What?
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02:36:45
Yep. Yep. Is that real? I think so. I think so.
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I don’t remember that song. Can we play some of the song Cut It Out, Jamie?
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I could play it
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for that.
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Play it for us and cut it out. We’ll we’ll cut this part out of the show, folks. Just go listen to Scorpions.
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02:37:00
What a shame, man. We couldn’t sana a ai more Germans.
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Nineteen ninety.
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Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
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Man, it was a good fucking song.
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Yeah. A CIA writes hits, baby.
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That’s crazy. The CIA wrote a banger. A huge banger.
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A huge and the crate here’s the funniest part. So when the wall comes down, this is number one. Like, you know, it was 1990. Right. And and I think I can’t remember. I think they might have been phonetically singing along with it in Lennon Stadium when we were there because it was it was a number one hit.
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It was everywhere, this song.
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This is a year before The Wall
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Came in?
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This song was written, after the concert, like, in response to the concert.
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Yeah. Okay. There you know, I told you. I don’t have it all right. But
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but But the CIA wrote it.
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The CIA wrote it. They had probably had it in the archives.
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Oh my god. The
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funniest thing was, so huge in Europe at the time was Baywatch. You know? You know the whole Sure. Have you ever had Hasselhoff on? No. There’s a funny guy. This guy, he’s
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He was on Fear Factor.
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Ai, he
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did celebrity Did you like him?
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Yeah. He’s a nice guy. I mean, I’ve met him a couple ai. You know, he had to go to the bathroom a lot at the time, but, you know, whatever. You know, MTV Beach House, like, his manager would be like, David, I think you need to go to the bathroom ram get some energy. Oh, yeah.
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Ai, but so, you know, the story of Baywatch is phenomenal because he self financed it. Nobody wanted it in Meh, and it became this monstrous global hit everywhere except America in the beginning. And, you know, he became wildly successful, rich, and Germany is where it was number one. It was just for years number one Baywatch.
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And so Hasselhoff or as they sai, Der Hoff is hello, Deutschland. Here’s the Hoff. Everyone knew him. He was standing on top of the wall with a sledgehammer, and he claims that he brought down the Berlin Wall.
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Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Is that what you got now?
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I don’t know.
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But Oh
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ai god. Well, this is also part of the thing that Mike Benz got into with the music business that they do sort of finance these, you know, disruptive kind of songs and political movements and Sure.
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02:39:11
Of course. Wow. Of course. I meh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that’s the powerful tool,
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man. That’s that, the book about Laurel Kennedy.
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There he is. There he is. Look at him. He’s bringing down the wall.
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What is he singing? Oh, he was a pop star. Right?
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02:39:26
Disco hits. He had these poppy hits. Yeah. And freedom, baby. I did it. And he sai glittering jacket on and everything. Awesome. American ai, ladies and gentlemen.
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Even glittery. That’s an LED jacket. Like, that jacket’s got a back there.
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02:39:40
Of course. We loved him from Knight Bryden. You know?
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Oh, yeah.
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He was
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a cool dude. You know, Ai had this we all wanted a kit a kit watch,
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you know,
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which we now have.
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Of course. Huge overseas. Right?
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02:39:49
That’s it. That was it was because of Baywatch, and he had a whole music career going on. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Good times in the old days, bro. Good times. We had so much fun back in the early days.
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So crazy that that song was written by the CIA. That that Laurel Canyon thing is really interesting because I really dismissed it at first.
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Yeah. I
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was like, come on. United States. But the government didn’t have nothing to do with the rock and roll movement, but kinda seems like they did. What is it, Strange Times in the Canyon? What is that book called again? I believe
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that’s the name. Is that it?
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Yeah. Something along those lines?
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Yeah.
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It’s a weird book, man. Yeah. I read the book and I was like, what the fuck? Like, how much of this is
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But you know, when in the sixties when the agents were infiltrating, Europe, it was it was all literature, art, music. They were bringing everything they could, art especially.
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You know,
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just and that was really at the time to make sure that
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Weird scenes inside the canyon.
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To make sure that the Russians didn’t take over Europe. You know, there’s all these all these things that they were doing.
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Well, they also did it with the modern art movement. Ai Jackson Pollock is a complete creation, which totally makes sense because I was I was like, who’s paying for this? Like, help me out. Yep. Like, no. Don’t you see the way the splatters arya? Like, no.
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02:41:05
That’s why we’re all questioning you, Joe Rogan. Yeah. What USAID connections do you have?
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I think I skipped the system. Ai think somehow or another, they fucked up.
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02:41:13
Look at meh. It’s true. My whole family’s intelligence and military. I was a pirate radio guy in 1983. What the they must have been ai, this guy’s lost. We can’t we can’t we can’t use him. He’ll be no good.
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Oh, but the real cookie people probably think you’re my handler or something because you created podcasting. That’s
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right. Yeah. Because there is
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that thought that, like, this is one of the things that comes up now all the ai. And we talked about this on CNN. We’re saying that there’s a whole finance impact ai wing ecosystem that’s created these podcasts. Where’s my check? Well, this this is just stupidity. This is the problem where when you look at some conspiracies, you think, oh, well, that applies
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to all things.
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Yeah. That no. There’s actually some things that are organic. Well For some weird reason.
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What what I think we’ll see, you know, the first thing after the election is, we need a Joe Rogan on the left. We need a Joe Rogan. Well, you know, guys, you basically had a Joe Rogan on the left, but you were so crazy that Joe started to think right.
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They didn’t want me. That was the thing. Ai, they didn’t want you. But it’s that’s all the ai op working against them. Because in the past, they could take someone like me and demonize them, and it would be effective. And they could just remove you from the airwaves Right. And then remove you as a problem because you’re not playing by the rules. But now, people go, oh, you know what?
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I think he’s the one who’s actually telling the truth. Let’s stop listening to them. And so then CNN crashes Mhmm. And then faith in mainstream media crashes and faith in podcast rises.
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I think what we’ll see though is and it may come from YouTube. We’ll probably see them try to hype someone up to become the Joe Rogan of the left.
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Oh, they’re already definitely doing that. But the thing is Ai don’t care.
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Give us a fuck.
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Let them try. Alright. But the thing is it’s not going to work unless that person’s authentic because
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Without authenticity, it doesn’t work.
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If you
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hear a person long enough, you know what the fuck they’re really saying. You know what they’re not.
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That’s right.
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You know, I’m wrong all the time. I’m you might not agree with me. That’s all great, but I’m not gonna lie. And that’s the difference. Yeah. And there’s sai lot of these people are just propagandists, and they’re also trying to make an argument for something without looking at the other ai, which instantaneously, I know now you’re propagandizing.
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Ai, you’re not you’re now, you’re bullshitting me. Mhmm. I always try to look at the other sai. I know you do. Everything.
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I know you do.
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As a human, I think it’s an important quality. As a person who’s, like, broadcasting to millions of people, it’s a very important quality. But it’s an important quality for human beings, like, know why you think about something. Like, know is this just a knee jerk reaction? Or is this well thought out?
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Is it are you being objective? Or are you try are you captured by this ideology that you’re a part of to the point where you’re just ignoring? Like, this is the thing that I find fascinating about all this USAID stuff. Because there’s so many people that are so against Donald Trump dismantling the organization shah they’re not looking at the craziness of all the propaganda that’s being exposed.
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They they somehow or another are gaslighting themselves and all their followers to say that, no, this is aid. People are gonna starve to death. There’s food that’s rotting. Ai, they I think Ai pretty sure even when they passed this thing where they were trying to put a stop on USAID, they give exemptions for food and medicine.
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Yeah. Sana and certain yeah.
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So you’re hearing these bullshit stories of, like, food that’s rotting now, people are gonna go starving, everyone’s dying of AIDS, like
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Well, you have figures who people see as authority because they have a million followers and likes, and then they’ll they’ll believe that. And, it typically doesn’t work. I mean, it’s like I
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ai it works, but it works for less people. There’s people that want to they want to be lied to. To. They wanna believe the cult. They wanna drink the Kool Aid. They they want to. Yeah. And that is where they’ve dug their heels in, and now this is where they they stay.
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But when you see Rachel Maddow, who shah come back, you know, for, the first hundred days, she’s doing a show every single day, and she’s blatantly lying. I mean, literally, like, factually, clearly lying. A lot of people won’t watch anything. You know, they’ve been told, Joe Rogan is part of the bro casting and, you know, the the this right wing conspiracy all funded by whatever to, you know, to propagandize, and people are gonna go over there, and they’re gonna believe what she says.
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And, I mean, I have family members who who truly believe that president Trump will take away their Social Security. Like, he’s saying quite the opposite. And ai the way, he can’t take it away. Only Congress can take it away. USAID created by executive order by president Kennedy can be shut by executive order by president Trump. That’s just a fact.
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Also, what they’re doing is they’re highlighting there’s people that are supposedly a hundred and 50 years old that are getting Social Security.
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Awesome. I need some of that. But there’s some weird shit
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going on with Social Security.
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But you know what happened? This I think this is this is what we’re not being told, but I have a lot of sysadmin friends. From what I understand, the Doge team, four guys initially, they were in so the treasury is like our bank account. It’s, you know, it’s just it’s one system, and it sends payments through the Federal Reserve system.
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And they all they needed to do, January 21 at midnight, they were in there. They got all the payments. They’ve had that at Mar A Lago. They’ve been, you know because I’ve heard this that they’ve been going through it ai, hey. There’s no reconciliation.
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There’s there’s just a payment with no no purchase order or no confirmation that the work was done. I think at this point, they’re just sitting back going, you know, they can they can release more information whenever they want. Department of Education is gonna be next. You’re gonna see a lot of common core craziness. I mean, remember that common core?
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The Pentagon, I hope they do the state department too because there’s a lot going on there.
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It’s gonna be interesting to see a little resistance. Well, the people who are squealing
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are the ones you wanna pay attention
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to.
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Well, that’s the thing is that, first of all, the one we were talking about this the other day. Me and my friends are saying, part of the problem is these people can’t conspire right now because all their phones are tapped. Mhmm. Everybody that for sure. Yeah. Ai, if if they’re investigating you, if they’re investigating these things, like, the the power that they have
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Is astronomical.
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It’s crazy. The power that they have to look into people’s emails, look into people’s phones, find out what text messages they’re sending, they can look into your signal, all
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that They
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get Pegasus, baby.
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Yeah.
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They look into everything. Sai the the idea that they’re not doing that, if they’re in the middle of some fucking multi trillion dollar investigation into rampant fraud, so they know that this is going on. So they can’t ai. And then they also have to worry about people taking deals. So there’s gonna be some people that squeal.
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Good point.
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And so then, you don’t know who’s your fucking enemy and who’s your friend. And everywhere you talk, you go to have a lunch with someone, he’s wearing a fucking button camera.
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Yeah.
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You could be fucked. And sai, they’re not united right now.
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Yeah.
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And this is why it’s working. And this is why they’re able to release all this information, and everybody’s in this hot panic right now.
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Yeah. So they’re squeezing they’re squeezing them because they they have it all. And thank God for James O’Keefe too, man. He’s he’s done some interesting stuff over the He
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certainly has.
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Over the years. You know? He he, like, gets people to it’s amazing how many guys will open up when they think they’re on a date with a hot chick or a hot guy, whichever whichever one that happens to be. And, like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, man. I’m doing all this. Yeah. We do oh, we don’t care. We we just hated Ram, and, you know, it’s ai, woah.
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These people, they need to learn how how to shut up.
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I think he just got another video that he released today. Oh, meh? There was another video today about people going around the Doge system to try to, like, still still do the same work.
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Bro, that Well,
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there wasn’t there there was an issue with
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Season of reveal, Joe?
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Yeah. Wasn’t there an issue with FEMA releasing is this true?
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Well, so FEMA, paid $59,000,000 for illegal, illegal entrance into our country for them to stay at the Roosevelt Hotel, which is double the the room rate. Have you ever stayed at the Roosevelt Hotel?
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I did way back in the day. And the Roosevelt Hotel, by the way, is owned by Pakistan.
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That’s right. And it was a dump. It was everyone was smoking weed in their rooms. I mean, I was there maybe ten years ago. Eleven years ago, I stayed at the Roosevelt Hotel part a
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little bit.
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It was oh, it was very cheap, you know, right there on 40 Second Street. Yeah. So they were paying double the room rate, but this wasn’t this isn’t just in in in, The United States. This has been happening all over the world. This is a gigantic
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scam. Four federal employees were fired Tuesday over payments to reimburse New York City for hotel costs for migrants. Department of Homeland Security officials said the workers were accused of circumventing leadership to make the transactions which have been standard for years through a program that helps with cost to care for a surge in migration.
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However, officials did not give details on how the four had violated any policies, but they they put a freeze on the payments.
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Oh, he said luxury hotels is ai of funny.
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Yeah. In quotes. Sai did they definitely do it? So far so sai I I Yeah. And it wasn’t Anderson Cooper disputing it.
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I don’t know.
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He was saying yesterday yeah. He was talking to Sununu and he called him a dick. But just Don’t be a dick.
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Go to Chicago. All the hotels on on the Miracle Mile are all, all migrant hotels Yeah. Because it was super good money. I mean Crazy. But that’s everywhere in the world. That’s the same in Europe. A big hotel change, like, you can’t get a hotel room because they’ve got migrants for double the price.
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Well, this is also ai
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that the Biden administration lied about because they said that FEMA funds were not being used for this, but they were.
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I’m with president Trump that it’s better you know, when, when Helene happened, what happened there was really beautiful because every everything fell down. Even the own, you know, North Carolina’s, their, their own state government. No one really was doing anything. And it was funny enough for the first time tyler seeing ham operators actually be successful. But, you know, the helicopter guys were all going out there.
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02:51:03
Everybody was pitching in. People were driving from all different states to come in and help people. I mean, I, I don’t have a helicopter anymore, but I literally called up the airfield. I said, fill them up. Here’s my credit card. Fill that one.
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Fill just fill them up. Fill up until, you know, until this limit that I have. Fill up the fill up these I know what it costs. You just burn a lot of money in a helicopter. This was this is how America works.
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It really works well when we help each other out in all kinds of circumstances. And we’ve become so reliant on the government, so reliant that, you know, uncle Sam is gonna come in and save us. And it turns out they’re not really efficient at it. They’re not really good at it. A lot of money gets stuck and flows to other places.
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We’ve gotta come back to loving our neighbor and and knowing your neighbor. How many people don’t even know their neighbor anymore?
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Right.
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This is critical. This is and I think you have this you know, when when Clinton was president, everything changed in America. All of a sudden, oh, that’s not sexual relations. Oh, you can do that to me, baby. That’s not actually sex. You know, all all these kinds of things, that sets a tone. It sets a cultural tone. And Trump is setting a cultural tone of let’s get this done.
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Let’s let’s stop getting ripped off by other people ai ourselves, and let’s be successful together. And it’s a short amount of ai. So I hope that But isn’t
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it interesting that half the country doesn’t see it that way? Well, unless the country sees it as a constitutional ai.
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Well, that’s just that’s just a term. It’s not a constitutional I know,
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but it’s interesting. That’s what’s being top FEMA official is fired over payments. New York City migrant shelters. Trump administration fired the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s chief financial officer and three others after Elon Musk misleadingly claimed the agency had used disaster relief funds for migrant services.
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Wait a minute. Is this New York Times?
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This is just gonna be back and forth back and forth forever.
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02:53:01
Misleading. What is misleading about it? So let’s see here. Misleading. City officials race to clarify that the federal money had been properly allocated by FEMA under president Biden last year, adding that it was not a disaster relief grant and had not been spent on luxury hotels.
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Nonetheless, just two hours after mister Musk post, FEMA’s acting director Cameron Hamilton announced the payments in question have all been suspended even though most of the money had already been dispersed sana that personnel will be held accountable. But is this a recent payment and did they put a freeze on payments even if the payment had been properly allocated by Biden?
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What I was reading is they just pulled the money out of, bank accounts.
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Mhmm.
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Who
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did? It says Trump administration. Trump revokes $80,000,000 from New York City after threat. Ai seeing this on multiple websites, but I don’t know.
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See can you go to the title there on daily news? Oh, hold on sai second. He just had it there.
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That’s right here too.
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Oh, Trump revokes $80,000,000 from New York City after threat to claw back FEMA cash used to care for migrants. But it’s still it’s still money to care for migrants, and they still put a freeze on that money to care for migrants.
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That’s your constitutional crisis. Yeah. We’re in a constitutional crisis because of what’s happened to our country.
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But that’s that seems like gaslighting to justify spending $80,000,000 to pay for migrants, which they shouldn’t have done. No. But it is not just that. It’s fly these people there, fly them into the country, let them into the country, and then pay for them with EBT cards, with with
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Well, a lot of that
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is debit cards.
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Was the economics. Yeah. I have a friend, former New York banker, and he said, we always win as long as our population is growing. We will beat China long term because their population is declining. And he sai, that’s why the borders are open is because we need you need it’s just like economics.
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You need more people, and with more people, your economy grows one way
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or the other. I think
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it’s a multifaceted argument because I think that’s I’m
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just telling you what the what the bankers say.
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I think there’s some truth to that, but I think also they were trying to buy votes.
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That yeah. I mean, all of that’s a part of it. I mean Well,
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you saw
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the thing in New York where they were trying to let people who arya illegals vote in regional Yes.
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Yeah. Well, that’s your constitutional crisis. Right?
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That is a constitutional crisis.
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Here’s the thing that I hope, and I’m working to make this happen. So we have great podcasts. You know, your your podcast is we can’t not everybody can be a Joe Rogan, and we can’t just all be looking at national news. What has happened at a local level is radio stations, you know, they all got bought up. They’re all, you know, consolidated. No one has local programming anymore.
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There’s almost no local newspapers, even local television stations. They’re all going away. Now is the time to create a podcast for your town, your burg, your city, your community.
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Wasn’t Gavin Newsom doing that, like, right after the election? Didn’t he start a podcast?
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Well, I don’t know about Gavin Newsom. That’s not
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I think he did. I think that was their idea to try to combat the podcast like this.
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We don’t need that. We need local voices. You know, Mhmm. All the advertising locally has been slurped up by by Facebook. You know? That’s where you advertise. I’ve started I’ve started a local a local thing in Fredericksburg, and people really love it. They oh, wait a minute.
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There’s something going on in Fredericksburg, and all they have is Fredericksburg ram and raves on a Facebook page. And will you imagine what a mess that thing is? That is crazy. That’s no good. Ram and ai now, that’s no good.
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And so I’m actually I started a thing called Godcaster.fm, and, it’s it’s tailored towards helping radio stations do this. But I think churches are content factories, and they’re not just all talking about Jesus and God. They’re doing stuff in the community. That’s what that’s what churches used to do, you know, and they’re doing stuff at the high schools, and you got kids in there.
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I want a thousand podcasts, you know, within a year all over America of local people, and it’s so easy to do now. It’s become so possible. And I think that local communities will even sponsor it. That’s the next level. That’s my phase two.
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That’s the next level we have to get to is where people just get a microphone, talk to your city council person. You know, it’s this is nuts. All all it is is national news presented by heads on television, and who needs that nonsense? Right. You know?
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02:57:30
And you’re an you’re, an exception, and you’re really important, but we need to have this at a local level. And it’s never been a better you wanna start a podcast and be able to actually make a living out of it in your local community, I guarantee people will support it. I guarantee people will wanna be a part of it, and I hope that that happens. That’s that’s what I’m dedicating myself to now.
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That’s awesome.
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Getting these local ai podcasts.
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That’s a great idea. Yeah. I think what you’re saying is all of it’s hopeful.
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Right? I’m very hopeful too. Yeah. Of course. Of course.
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Which is great. I mean, because being cynical ai sucks, you know, especially when this really is a very unique time of possibility. There’s a lot a lot of things are happening right now.
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02:58:10
Yeah. It’s a perfect time.
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And it also feels like even to the people that didn’t want what Donald Trump is doing, the idea to keep going with what was happening before, where you had someone running for president that never went through the meh,
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you know? Constitutional crisis.
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That’s a real question. Right there. The soft coup against Biden.
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Mhmm. All
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that it that should disturb you that that didn’t well, it should be good that that didn’t work, cause that’s not good for anybody. Because if they can keep doing it that way, then you never have a primary again.
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Well, primaries, of course, are up to the party. It’s not necessarily a constitutional thing, but that should tell a Democrat people who who vote Democrat and are part of. I’ve never been a part of a party. I’m not that interested. I vote for people. But that should tell them something like Yeah. There’s something bad going on here.
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Yeah.
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There’s some shenanigans going on. They could’ve had a primary.
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Like, what was it like in DC when you went for the inauguration? Was it just ai show business for ugly people? There are a million people all over the place.
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Million people all over the place.
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Shah was it nuts? It
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was nuts. It was weird. You know, I did a lot. Yeah. Very weird. Because you go into I went to a lot of these things. I went to a few of these things ai these dinners and stuff and balls. Yeah. And it’s a lot of people that donated a lot of money. And so the it’s very transactional and everybody’s hyper aggressive to get photographs and talk to people and they they interject themselves into conversations, interrupt, stand right in front of people that you’re talking to and Oh, yeah.
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Want pictures and wanna introduce themselves and it’s it’s very entitled and very transactional and
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but
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I think that’s always been the nature of politics Sure. Particularly with people the reason why they were there is because they donated a substantial amount
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of ai. A million million bucks sai pop
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in a
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week ago. Yeah.
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Which is nuts. Like, how how this many people have a million dollars to donate? This is crazy.
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Amazing, isn’t it?
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Amazing. A
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lot of people got a million bucks.
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It’s like
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Ai know. It’s
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it’s all The USA ID money.
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Ai don’t know what it is. But it’s
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Well, there
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are a lot of successful people in in the world who have that who can access that ai of cash, but wow.
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But there’s a lot of hope. It It was a very positive obviously, because the winners were all there. But it was it was a very optimistic vibe, which felt good. And even the speech, when he gave his inauguration speech, I mean, that was pretty fucking wild.
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I love the I love the black pastor from Detroit.
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Yeah.
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He was channeling MLK. He was just, like, going crazy. It was what you were sitting maybe, like, five rows behind Hillary Clinton. Mhmm. Did you smell sulfur?
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I smelled everything. I saw Bill and made eye contact with Bill. Me and Bill staring at each other for a while.
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He’s he’s larger than life even though he’s kind of frail now. I mean, he still is Well, it’s just an imposing guy.
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In the room with you. Yeah. You know, it’s like they’re it’s a different kind of a celebrity.
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Like this
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like, I remember when I went to see the Rolling Stones at CODA, I was blown away. I’m like, Mick Jagger’s right there. Like, that’s actually him, and he’s dancing a button.
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And and he’s this big. His butt’s that that boy.
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Ai a stick. Yeah. But it’s he’s right. He you know, he has two trailers that he brings with him that are just a gym.
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Oh, it doesn’t surprise me.
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Two of his he works out every day. What is he, like, 78? He’s a thousand years old.
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And he had a open heart surgery Yeah. And all Like recently.
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Yeah. Yeah. Recently had heart surgery.
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Ai was amazing guy. Really, truly is.
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Just fucking loves it, man. And they put on a fucking hell of a show. But my point is, like, that’s one of those things you’re ai, I can’t believe that’s really him. And that’s what it’s like when you’re, like, looking over there. You’re like, holy shit. That’s George w Bush.
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03:01:39
Do you think it was the real Biden or the daddy long legs Biden?
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I think it was the real one.
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Okay.
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I think.
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Because you’ve seen the daddy long legs guy.
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Right? Too tall. Yeah. Yeah. It was like That one guy was nuts.
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And he’s jogging to the helicopter. I’m like, no.
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Nuts. Like, I wanna know the story about that. Like, is that is there any paperwork on who that guy actually was? I’d love to know Joe Biden. That’s a guy with a I’d love to. Not Joe Biden. That’s a guy with a mask on.
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The mask things are real. Ai can tell you I can tell you this from family cock. From family experience.
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You could see them on oh, from family experience.
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Yes. Yeah.
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In 1967. Let’s just leave the family members out of it. But someone brought home a colleague from work, and the colleague had dinner and had coffee. And then, at dessert, the wife was sitting there, been talking to this person, and then this colleague took off his mask, and it was someone who the wife knew extremely well and had no ai.
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Nineteen sixty seven. Woah. So imagine what they can do now. The stuff that that CIA like lady shows on the YouTube video Yeah. That’s I think that’s just old.
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I mean, it’s amazing. 67, that stuff already existed and worked.
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How come they couldn’t get somebody Biden’s height?
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You know, that’s Tina says that too. I said, you know, they just didn’t care at that point. Just ai they needed someone who had his cadence, which I think is harder to do to to be kind of, you know, like that stumbling bumbling.
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Also, like, how many people do you bring this to? Like, you know And
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what is
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that guy doing now? He needs a broadcast. Ai guy’s dead. He’s got he’s got no That
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guy is a bottom of the ocean.
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What gig does he have now?
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He took that guy fishing.
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Ai hope not, but it’s Yeah. It’s possible. Yeah. So there’s Who knows? There’s a lot of that going on. I mean, we’ve spotted throughout the years. Hillary Clinton had Ai know she had a double. And it was actually women who noticed it. Like, she’s carrying her handbag on the other shoulder.
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It’s like no woman switches that up. That never happens. And you look at her like, ai. She does look a little different.
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But it’s also isn’t that a mind fuck, though? Because then you start looking at everybody ai, that’s not the real one.
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Are you Joe Rogan?
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Yeah. Who’s what happened? Who is it?
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Yeah. It’s pretty crazy stuff.
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It is.
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I hope I hope some of that comes out too. But, you know, it’ll be great to know these things.
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It would it would be great to stop lying. Mhmm. Yeah. Basically. Ai should not have a fake I mean, is there some sort of national security explanation that you could give for why you would have to have a fake president?
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Well, I mean, holy moly. Have you ever seen the Kevin Ai movie? Right. Yeah. I mean, there it is.
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Wag the dog.
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There’s your was it no. I ai. One. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave.
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Right. Right.
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Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, this this happens all the time, these things.
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Bizarre.
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Yeah. And who knows? You know? But, again, season of reveal. We’re learning things. We won’t learn everything, but we will become a lot wiser. I’m I’m convinced of it, and I’m excited. I am 60 years old and super excited and very bullish on the future, particularly of The United States, and I’m seeing the influence we’re having in Europe.
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I’m seeing it. People like, we don’t want this. It’s tougher for them. Ai, The UK, they don’t really have a first amendment like we do.
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Right. So
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it’s ai, you hurt someone’s feelings on Facebook, you go into jail. I mean, so they they got a lot of work to do. But, you know, I think Germany has a shot. You know, I think, The Netherlands has Geert Wilders. France are really pushing back hard on on Le Pen and and, right wing people. Viktor Orban in Hungary.
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I mean, there’s there’s a there’s at a certain point, the people will just not take it anymore. And it could get ugly over there, but they people are people. Sai mean, we’ve had revolutions ourselves. We’ve been pretty good at it. Yeah. You know? Of course, we got guns. You know, that was a smart move, founders. Yeah.
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Smart move.
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First and Saloni Amendment were both
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The Second Amendment was there to protect the first as far as I’m concerned, you know? And I I am I’m bullish. I really am. I’m excited, Joe.
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I am too.
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Oh, good. Alright. Good.
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Well, thank you, brother. It’s always great to sit with you.
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Joe, I Thanks for starting
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this whole thing.
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No, brother. Thank you so much for what you do, brother. Thank you, Jamie. Appreciate you guys so much.
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Tell everybody where they can watch No Agenda.
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Noagendashow.net. You can’t watch it. It’s only a podcast.
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It’s on the
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Or listen. Yeah. Only listen. Yeah. Only listen. We’re too ugly. We don’t sana we don’t we don’t want you to look at us and meh it and get it on the modern podcast app at podcastapps.com. That’s, so you won’t you we won’t disappear overnight from Apple or some other platform. Alright. That’s what you want.
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Bye bye. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Bye, ai ai.
