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Dr. Mark Gordon is an expert in the field of neuroregenerative medicine and the treatment of Traumatic Brain Injuries.
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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the discussion revolves around several key topics, including biohacking, nutraceuticals, and the impact of supplements on health and well-being. A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to the concept of “Biohack Yourself,” a program developed by the Lolli Group, led by Anthony and Theresa Lolli. This initiative focuses on promoting scientifically-backed methods for enhancing brain health, longevity, and anti-aging, with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as a media representative due to his trust in their scientific approach.
The episode delves into the benefits of various supplements, highlighting ingredients like quercetin, EPA, DHA, glutathione, and B vitamins. These are discussed in the context of improving mitochondrial function, which is linked to reversing neurodegenerative diseases and enhancing mental performance. The conversation also touches on the importance of taking vitamins regularly, especially when traveling, to maintain optimal health and well-being.
Additionally, the episode briefly explores cultural shifts from the 1950s to the 1960s and the rapid technological changes in recent years, particularly with AI. This is contrasted with the relatively stable period around 2015, where technological advancements seemed less pronounced.
Throughout the episode, a recurring theme is the importance of optimizing health through informed choices and the use of supplements. The discussion emphasizes the need for scientific validation in health practices and the potential of biohacking to improve quality of life. The episode also includes a paid advertisement for BetterHelp, promoting therapy as a valuable tool for personal growth and achieving life goals.
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Showing my day, Joe Rogan podcast ai night, all day.
Good to see you again, my friend.
Hey. Sai it’s great to be here.
4 years. January 8th. Ai no. January 15th.
Yeah. That long ago. Years. Jeez. Yeah. It’s been 4 years.
The last time you were here. Right?
Correct. Yeah. I think the last 2
was, like, right after a couple months after I moved here.
Yeah. Yeah. So almost exactly 4 years. Yeah. Crazy.
Well, waiting was great. Waiting? Waiting. I mean, the tyler, 4 years waiting to have another chat with you because so much has gone on since, last we met.
Uh-huh. Where do you wanna start?
A, z? Anywhere. Anywhere. Let’s see.
You know, the family’s expanding. Yeah. That which is great. All three daughters have, been meh, and each has a grandchild, which is making me feel old. So I’ve ramped up, stepped up my hormonal treatment to keep me on the edge because I wanna be a lot around a lot longer to take care of these kids or to be with the kids.
They’re just 16 months, but they’re still fantastic. Unterrible. I love it.
Absolutely love it. But in the world that I work in in the medical arena, it’s been expanding rapidly.
The new administration has a part to play in
it, which is great, but even before that, the number of results that we’re having, the outcome from, TBI, PTSD, and what have you has been accelerating, because of some of our testing that we do as well as our, treatment that, we’ve initiated that’s changed since 4 years ago, since last time.
What have you added in the last 4 years?
Well, we’ve added a lot more nootropic excuse meh, not nutraceuticals, natural products into our regimen. You know, I spent 16 years looking at the science behind things that can get into the brain and alter the inflammation that occurs in the brain. The whole premise of everything that I’ve been doing for the last 30 day 30 years has been based upon inflammation in the brain, And the inflammation is what stops all the chemistry and why we develop anger and, you know, problems.
I don’t know if you saw the article, which is called Influence of Media on the Mental Health of America, which used to be called the Trump Derangement Syndrome, but I got so much backlash from having that title. People wouldn’t read it because of the ai. And it talks about how constant stress from the media, echo chambers, social media, reading all this bullshit, causes cortisol to go up. No doubt.
And it shuts down the chemical that protects your brain called fratalkin, and then it starts dumping all this inflammation and causes loss of serotonin, so you become more depressed. It causes loss of melatonin, so you can’t speak. Generates another group of chemicals that induce depression.
And Yeah. It essentially generates this response in your body that prepares itself for a fight that never takes place.
And then you’re always thinking you’re about to get into some sort of a physical altercation with the armed enemy coming over the top of the hill.
Just like our army goes through.
Exactly. And and the thing the army and with a lot of these people that you’ve worked with is, from IDs and from blowing through doors and stuff like that. They get damage to their pituitary gland. You know, we’ve talked about it many, many times in the podcast.
But I think one of the, misperceptions is, as you said, and I apologize for that, is that we think it’s all due to pituitary gland, but it isn’t. In the work that we’ve been doing, it shows that when you have inflammation in the brain, regardless of how it’s developed, whether or not it’s sai IED or sai and fall or as we’ve talked in the past, even wave runners speak Sai Doos, or skiing, or water skiing, snow skiing
Or going to the range, the 50 caliber gun gunners. What happens is it creates this inflammation that shuts off the ability of the brain to regulate the pituitary gland. So you can do all the MRIs as they do at the VA, and they see a normal pituitary gland and says, oh, pituitary is normal. You’ve got PTSD.
But there’s no radiological or neuroradiological procedure that allow you to look at inflammation in the brain. Sai they assume Right. They can’t find any structural damage that it has to be all psychiatric.
Sort of like when they used to have to diagnose CT after you’re already dead. Correct. Right?
Isn’t that how they’re doing it now?
No. I think they can scan for it now.
There’s a PET scan that can look for the tau protein that creates it meh.
yeah, tau proteins, hyperphosphorylated, tau becomes these NFTs, these neurofibral tangles, which is an interesting issue. It’s been part of my last year of deep dive trying to find out why is it that you develop CTE or the symptoms relative to CTE. Why is it that you develop the symptoms relative to Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s or multiple sclerosis? Well, it turns out that the biochemistry is all the sai.
Something called beta amyloid, which is the hallmark for someone with Alzheimer’s disease, and then these tau proteins, hyperphosphorylated tau proteins that they call NFTs that they circulate around the blood vessels and they create this intense inflammation, and that intense inflammation causes loss of blood supply, damage to neurons
And you develop it. So we’ve had, using our protocol, we have our 6th case of multiple sclerosis that was totally put into remission. It took 90 days to put them in remission. It was a, lieutenant yeah. It’s a video up on, replacing the hormones that are deficient that protect the brain.
What is in the nutraceutical?
In the nutraceuticals, there is, quercetin. You know about quercetin. Mhmm. It’s got, EPA EDA, e d DHA from, omegas. It has in it glutathione, n acetylcysteine. It’s got b 12, that’s on one component of it. The other component has b 1, b 2, which deals with neurocommunication, sana then it’s a Pqq and coq10.
Pqq is a form of coq10. It’s sai sister. Mhmm. And it’s a 100 to a 1000 times stronger, but it’s what it does. It increases mitochondrial function.
I know you’ve had a lot of people here talking about mitochondrial function. Mhmm. And that’s a major piece in how to reverse things like neurodegenerative diseases and improve mental functioning. Mhmm. I mean, products like you have, like, Alpha Brain, you know, has an effect on improving mitochondrial function and that’s what you sana do. That’s a key.
So you have to drop the inflammation because inflammation causes mitochondria that produce ATP. It causes mitochondrial dysfunction. So in all those neurodegenerative diseases, mitochondrial dysfunction has been ignored in the past and you need to address it. So pqq and co q ten are 2 very, very potent. When added together, they stimulate mitochondrial ATP production and replication of mitochondria. Quercetin does the same thing.
That’s why it’s so important. So
Quercetin, you were you were explaining to me before that it’s an ionophore and that it it it gets ions into the bloodstream better, so it’s when you consume it with zinc. Right. This is a paid advertisement for BetterHelp. Life is kind of like a book, and every new year is the start of a new chapter.
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But But that’s one. That’s one of its functions, but there are ai functions that it has. Quercetin is amazing. It’s an ionophore, which is when we talked about COVID and zinc. It carries zinc into the cell to shut down the ability of the COVID Sai from replicating.
Or ai, essentially. Right?
Well, it works with SARS and it works with influenza a and b, works with rhinovirus and enterovirus gut viruses that you can get during, summertime.
So what I was just getting at is is it’s beneficial for people all year round, not just Absolutely. People that think they might be getting COVID?
Absolutely. So I take 500, milligrams twice a day.
Of course it is. And how much zinc
with that? Thirty milligrams. Okay. I take 30
And you do that twice a day?
I do that, the quercetin twice a day, but zinc because my levels are where they’re at
I don’t put a lot of, zinc in because zinc’s involved in about 300 processes in the body. It’s antiviral that we just talked about. It’s anti Alzheimer’s because it turns out that the production of the chemical called beta amyloid, there’s an enzyme that regulates it and it’s zinc dependent.
So if it’s working, it’s called secretase. It’s called alpha secretase. It’s zinc dependent. Beta secretase is not. So beta secretase takes and makes the beta amyloid that causes the Alzheimer’s, the inflammation. And with that inflammation, you then start getting the same thing in CTE.
So in all these inflammatory conditions, they have the same beta amyloid and cause for CTE, the hyperphosphorylated tau protein that we call not, NFTs Mhmm. Neurofibrotangles. So they’re all related. So what quercetin does is it increases mitochondrial replication in about 7 days, doubles the amount of mitochondria intracellularly.
It helps increase in the liver something called IGF binding protein 3, insulin like binding protein 3. Binding protein 3 is always looked at as being the carrier for IGF 1, insulin like growth factor, growth hormone, turns on and delivered the production of insulin like growth factor, which is the main below the neck growth factor for our body, improves, protein synthesis, decreases inflammation too.
Wow. Okay. A sidetrack, when you’re talking about beta amyloid and Alzheimer’s Mhmm. Wasn’t there a significant amount of fraud that was exposed about, Alzheimer’s studies that put into question a lot of the ai that people had about Alzheimer’s? Wasn’t that something happened recently?
Well, in the train of, thought on Alzheimer’s, you know, they’re saying that it’s due to the recessive genes. Well, if you look at the real the studies recently Mhmm. 95% of the cases of Alzheimer’s disease appear to be due to trauma and aging Trauma and aging. Only 5
So ram, like, head trauma?
Head trauma. Because what happens is trauma stimulates the brain because of inflammation to increase the production of beta amyloid, and it’s because there’s they found recently another secretase. What secretases are are the enzymes that convert a protein called APP, Alzheimer’s precursor protein, and it’s a long protein and 2 enzymes go in and clip it here and clip it here, and that piece is beta amyloid.
That’s the bad stuff. That’s a beta secretase and a gamma secretase, but they also have something called alpha secretase. So if alpha secretase and gamma secretase cut this APP, it generates alpha amyloid, which is inert, not inflammatory.
so what did they find recently? Something called delta secretase. Delta secretase and gamma gives you beta amyloid. So how do you generate delta secretase in the body? Trauma, aging. So that’s why most of the cases of, of Alzheimer’s disease are inflammatory based. So what are the things that Ai sorry.
most cases, is there a certain age where people start to develop it? And has there been any cases of very young people that get Alzheimer’s?
There’s a young form of Alzheimer’s, and that might be directly due to having had head trauma and developing this delta amyloid or, delta secretase generating amyloid beta amyloid that creates the Alzheimer’s disease. As you get older, 65 years of age and above, that is could be 5% genetic, but I think what the literature is really speaking towards is that it’s all has an inflammatory basis.
Remember, trauma in the brain equates out to inflammatory processes. It’s part of the brain’s ability to try and protect us.
Okay? Remove junk, bacteria, mold, viruses
bryden, and also metabolites of, abnormal, metabolism in the brain.
What what was the scandal?
Ai don’t Alzheimer’s research scandal because it was pretty significant, and they were saying that it it throws into question all of these, previous assumptions and therapies that they were providing for Alzheimer’s disease, and this person had, made a significant amount of money.
Yeah. It’s the antibodies. It’s the treatment protocols, the antibodies against beta amyloid. And they found that even though you’re against beta amyloid, you were still progressing on to develop symptoms of, Alzheimer’s disease.
But they were talking about fraud. This is ai fraud in scientific research.
How a retracted paper affected the course of Alzheimer’s research.
But it’s one paper. And what was the focus of?
Okay. June 2024 landmark Alzheimer’s research paid toward yep. Was retracted due to fraud allegations. Do we waste 1,000,000,000 of dollars and 1,000 of hours of ai’ time? Maybe not. Are new potentially hopeful drugs on the market targeting the subject of the paper, amyloid beta?
The review video breaks down the amyloid beta hypothesis, the fraud itself, and where we go from here. So what is the fraud itself, Jamie? Does it say? So you can find an article that’s just not a video, not attached to a video.
Beta amyloid data. See, they’ve been relying on beta amyloid as being the focus, and what they’re finding is the treatment that addresses beta amyloid antibody against beta amyloid. People are still getting, progression of the disease.
I understand this, but I just wanna know what the what the fraud was.
So what is the fraud? Amyloid ai. Scroll down a little bit, Jamie. What’s the fraud? Where does it get to the what what did the paper bullshit about?
Putting it into perspective. Mhmm.
But tyler, Publix failed to find
Where’s that fraud? What’s it say?
Let me try a different search.
Yeah. Just find out, like, what was the this seems ai very involved. This is a science journal.
Well, you know that in there are papers that have been written about reproducibility. Mhmm. Reproducibility is where a researcher does a paper, makes a claim about the results of his science, and then people look at that and they sana go and reproduce it to prove it. They found that 70% of them can’t be reproduced.
And when you looked at the actual ai who did the original work, goes back and tries to reproduce it, 7% failure rate. So there are major publications that have talked about this reproducibility error. I mean, you can go on to, you know, Google Scholar or else into Google and look at, reproducibility.
Okay. Here it is. But over the past 2 years, questions have arisen about some of meh Vatsal. How do you say his name? Vatsal?
great. Maslia. Maslia. Maslia. Maslia’s research, ai investigation has now found that scores of his lab studies at UCSD and NIA are riddled with apparently falsified western blots, images used to show the presence of proteins and micrographs of brain tissue. Numerous images seem to have been inappropriately reused within the, within and across papers, sometimes published years apart in different journals, describing divergent experimental conditions After science brought initial concerns about Masliah’s work to their attention, the neuroscientists and forensic analysis ai in scientific work who’d previously worked with science produced a 300 page dossier revealing a steady stream
of suspect images between
1997 and 2023 at a ram ai papers. Science did not pay them for their work. In our opinion, this pattern of anomalous data raises credible concern concern for research misconduct and calls into question a remarkably large body of scientific work.
Okay. So it seems like the fact that he was reusing the same image images
Stating that they were new images. Mhmm. So he was, stacking the deck in his favor. Right. Because he had a point to make
$2,600,000,000 That’s what the budget was. That’s National Institute of Health. Yeah.
Jeez. Dwarves the rest of the National Institute, the NIA combined.
He was in charge of the division of neuroscience.
That is so crazy. So the budget of the division of neuroscience alone was $2,600,000,000 in the last fiscal year, and this guy was, a key leader for the effort. Man, how gross. But that’s pressure and competition and very ambitious people who have shitty morals.
Publisher perish is the That’s motto.
Right? The motto. If they don’t publish and have a positive finding, they’re not gonna get funding for the next project that they have.
And when someone does publish, like this gentleman who, allegedly published falsified data, is there someone who goes over that stuff to make sure that that’s not the case?
Yeah. The editors of the journal that he’s presenting it to.
Right. But is is there preferential treatment for people that are established scientists that are thought to be beyond criticism? Theoretically a gentleman like this who has an enormous position of power and a $2,600,000,000 budget behind ai?
Well, but look at the bottom ai, which pharmaceutical company was involved in it? Okay? Which pharmaceutical? And, you know, that’s one of the the problems that, you know, RFK Jr. Will be, generating is that as he finds that this science is 70%, you can’t reproduce it, meaning that Right. It’s maybe not accurate?
Maybe there’s a little bit
of ai? That’s being kind.
Yeah. Because, otherwise, it’s fraudulent. Right?
I was just reading an article about Ai. It was claiming that Alzheimer’s didn’t even exist until modern ai. Statins. Statins cause Alzheimer’s?
this article was connecting it to our diet, the standard American ai. And they were saying that all the bullshit food that people eat is contributing to this, this condition. And I was what I was gonna get to you is that would lead to an inflammation. Correct?
Because the bullshit American diet filled with crap is terrible for you and that leads to inflammation.
You look at the inflammatory neurodegenerative diseases. What does everyone have now? It says a low inflammatory diet. Right. That’s what it talks about. Also, in hit in high impact, interval training and high impact aerobics, what happens is you can increase a chemical in the brain called brain derived neurotrophic factor
Which is something that helps to improve neuron to neuron communication and neurology of your brain. And I don’t know if you sai, we have, one of your favorite guys, Gerald McClellan. I don’t know if you’ve seen some of the papers that have come out. He had a stroke in 95, fighting, Ai Meh in London. Mhmm.
And during that fight, it was a horrible fight if you’ve ever seen the
It’s a crazy fight. It’s Yeah.
So, anyway, he had a stroke ram that and was hospitalized for 11 days in a coma in ICU in Bryden. Gets out. His sister, Lisa McClellan, refuses to put him into a nursing home, into a hospice health, takes him into the house in Chicago, and for 29 years dealt with him. She develops a organization called, Ring of Brotherhood, where Muhammad Ali’s niece and son, I think, are part of it.
And they take care of, boxers who are leaving the ring who have symptoms, punch drunk or what do they call it, precox or pugilistic, meh pugilistic. Yeah.
And she contacted me and, told me about her brother, and I looked at stuff, and what we did was we set up a fund and we paid for his laboratory work and his initial assessment, and we found he was hormonally deficient. So what we ended up doing is putting him on to the hormone replacement and to, one of the peptides that we use, which is called n Acetyl c sai, which stimulates the brain to produce more brain derived neurotrophic factor.
He’s in Chicago. I’m in in California or here in Texas, in Magnolia, and one of our docs in Chicago took the lead. I just gave her what to do. He’s 20% better in 4 months on the protocol. He’s now remembering things. He’s communicating.
He’s on the phone, and a boxing journalist, Oliver Fennell came from London to Chicago and wrote a paper, which is called A Day in the Life of Gerald McClellan, and talks about how what happened Mhmm. And where he’s gone. And he’s had some improvement.
20 yeah. Phenomenal. 20% improvement.
Yeah. I’m sure you we talked about Rick Perry before Sure. The podcast arya, so sure you you’re aware of his, push to, legalize Ibogaine and start using Ibogaine for Yep. People with traumatic brain injuries. And he was talking about how it regenerates neural tissue and and and helps people significantly. And and then on top of that, the addiction Right.
Issue where people have addictions and Ibogaine is incredible for for curing those. Ai, literally curing them. In 1 in 1 with 1 session, it’s in the 80% range. With 2 sessions, it’s in the it’s somewhere around 97%, which is just crazy. ai to 97 is phenomenal.
I I give a lot of, credit to Rick Perry in, 2022. They had HB 1802, which is the first bill in any state where the state put money into a research project at Baylor for, it was for, psilocybin is where he started. So it was Rick Perry. Andrew Marr
Was part of it along with doctor, Martine.
Shout out to our friend, Andrew.
Yeah. Hello, Andrew. And, let’s sai. Doctor Martine Polanco, who I’ll cycle back to because the Ibogaine issue was what he helped to develop. So, it was also, representative Alex Dominguez who helped to push it through to get the funding for it, and it’s at Baylor with, a doctor by the name of, Lynette Averell, PhD.
She’s, Ai believe, the one who’s in charge of it. But recently, you know, we have Ayahuasca, we’ve got Ibogaine, we got, LSD, we’ve got NMTA. The Ibogaine seems to be really good for addiction and for neuro regeneration, which is what you were talking about to improvement in the neural function.
Ai is the cardiovascular, so it has to always be under a very strict, very close observation.
And the, doctor that I talked about, MD, Arya, Polanco, who has clinics in Mexico uses Ibogaine. And, one of our new vets who came on board in, one of the other states, set up a ai charitable organization. The 8 is a religious organization. Meh imports, Ibogaine from, I think it’s Chile, and gets it here in the states and then sends it to Mexico to, doctor Polanco to do studies.
So right now, I believe he has the largest group of, studies. And one of the things that, really has to be looked at is the compassionate use of these products. You’ve got guys that are coming back from war Right. Who everything isn’t working, you know, everything. So you have to start pulling the stops out and treat them. I mean, if you really want them to get better.
Especially when there’s real evidence that there’s not not just anecdotal evidence that they work, but there’s actual scientific
Evidence of their effectiveness. You could there’s meh, we understand.
Right. So, I think I showed might have sent you a preliminary paper Ai working on on the neurotransmitters to identify how each one of the, psychedelic assisted therapeutic agents work in the bryden, and the science is already out there. So what does it tell you? The foundation for how they work, why they work, and how they work is already there. So why aren’t we using it?
Well, because of a stupid law that was passed in 1970 to punish Richard Nixon’s political opponents. That’s really what it is.
Yeah. That’s what it is. It was about the civil rights movement and the anti ram movement. And so one of the ways to get at these people, they knew that one of the the big shifts of culture, if you go back to, ai, we talk about it ad nauseam on the podcast, but there’s just a gigantic shift in culture from ai 19 fifties to the 19 sixties.
It’s almost unimaginable the amount of change that takes place, and what you have to imagine as a person today is 2015. Now you think in time, things accelerate even more rapidly and change is more exponential. It’s more crazy in ai, and it’s kinda sorta true with some technologies, especially today with AI.
But if you go back to 2015 and if you were just driving around in 2015, everything is essentially the same. The phones look pretty much the same. The cars look pretty much the same. There’s not much difference. There’s not much difference in your life.
If you go from 1959 to 1969, you have a totally different fucking world. You have a totally different world of culture, totally different world of movies, totally different world of music, totally different world of automobile ai. You have a totally different world that I believe is inspired by psychedelic drugs.
And when Nixon throws the water on the psychedelic movement in 1970 and makes them all schedule 1, including things that aren’t even psychoactive by the way, missed a bunch of really good ones. Missed a bunch of really good ones that are still legal. One of them was, salvia, which is fucking bananas, an insanely potent psychedelic drug that was completely legal.
So if you look at it culturally, you see this shift. You see the movies get clunkier and goofy. Yep. You see the car start to look like shit. You see the music starts to suck. It starts to be, like, real frivolous and very surface. It’s very it’s cocaine music.
Right? It’s not it’s not Led Zeppelin. It’s not psychedelic music. It’s not The Doors. Hendrix. Yeah. It’s not Hendrix.
It’s not it’s not voodoo child. You know, it’s something completely divorced from feeling. Yeah. Right? And this is because of Richard Nixon.
Okay. So you’re you’re basically saying the importance of psychedelics in expanding the visions that we have to advance our culture and society Yeah. Has been removed. Exactly.
You you talked about the sympathetic use. Yeah. There’s there’s, you know, there’s people Compassionate use. There’s people that are gonna use things and they’re gonna abuse things. Just like you and I are having a glass of whiskey. Cheers, sir.
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in there, you fucking drunk.
I took my Google bio. Did. I know you did. I I apologize. I finally went back and listened to our first podcast for 38 from August 8, 2012.
Ram. That long ago? Wild. 13 years ago?
Wild. It was wild. And the thing that stuck out was the glutathione. So I started this morning with my glutathione.
knew we were gonna finish this bottle.
Oh, well, I’m not finishing that bottle. There’s not a chance in hell. I have stuff to do. Oh, we all do. And I just worked out.
I haven’t taken it yet. Ai. I I take it every night. Sure. If you got some, go get me some. I take it, every night.
I take liposomal That’s what
that is. There you go. Oh, this I have to suck on this right? Ai tastes like shit. No. Brain rescue number 3. No. Is this your company?
Millennium. Yes. Yeah. That’s our product and that is our core product for fixing the guys with TBI. Mhmm. Yeah. How’s the new flavor?
actually doesn’t taste bad at all. I was getting nervous. Oh. When you’re eating something out of a tube,
Depends on whose tube it is.
Yes. In Metro. It’s not not actually even a tube. I don’t know why I said a tube. It’s a packet, like a ketchup packet.
There you go. But it’s not ketchup.
But it doesn’t taste bad at all.
But, yeah, you turned me on the glutathione decade ago, decade plus. 13.
Long time ago. But, yeah, because of meeting you, I I mean, I really ramped up all of my nutritional supplements, you know, in a big way. Because back then when I first met you gotta be 15 years ago. Right? Somewhere around then? Yeah. Elise. When I first met you, I was just basically taking multivitamins.
I wasn’t really, like, strict about it. And then when you started doing blood work and explaining things to me and, you know, and breaking down the nutritional deficiencies, ai, you need niacin, you need this, you need that. And I started taking all that stuff and it’s it makes a significant difference. It really does.
And I ai to a lot of people that are skeptical about vitamins and they talk to their doctors, unfortunately. And the reality is that you’re very educated in this department, but many doctors have a cursory at best understanding of nutrition. They their their specialty is their specialty.
If they are a urologist or they’re an orthopedic surgeon, that’s their specialty. And most of them are
very unhealthy, unfortunately. Correct. And they’re under the illusion that you can get everything that you can get everything that you can get everything that you can get everything that you can get everything that
you sana meh And they’re under the illusion that you can get everything that you need to live optimally with, a balanced diet. That’s horseshit, people.
Yeah. And you notice it eventually. Look, when I go on vacation, I’ve gone on vacation before, ai, 7 day vacations and not taking vitamins with me.
Yeah, man. Yeah. Like, I feel different. Like, at the end of 7 days, I’m, like, Jesus, I need some fucking vitamins. So I don’t do that anymore. Yeah. Now when I go on vacation, I take vitamins with me. I’m, like, what’s the big deal? I pack underwear, pack my fucking vitamins, and I just make sure that I have everything that I need. And if I don’t do that, I don’t feel the same.
And I think it’s just the difference between being ai, that do you need it to be alive? No. But we’re not talking about just ai. We’re talking about optimization. And if you you wanna feel better, and everybody does, you should take ai, and you should take a bunch. You should take a lot of different stuff.
Yeah. Absolutely. One of the one of the times you’re talking about our progression throughout ai, back in the nineties, doctors were against vitamins saying that it’s expensive, urine, expensive flushing in the toilet. You remember that?
And then what happened? And then all the signs started coming out saying how we needed b 12 because our nutrition was devoid because the soil not being rotated, devoid in the nutrients to feed the plants to give us our
I thought b 12 was essentially from animals.
It is, muscle. Yeah. From muscle, but talking about b complex, really.
know, you can get it in plants as well. But it’s the trace elements as well, the minerals. And without having adequate amount in, you gotta replenish it.
you don’t replenish it, you lose important, you know, pathways.
What about folks that are getting their food organically? They’re getting, like like they go to a farmers arya. They get really good organic groceries.
It most of the organic people, supplement the animals with quality supplementation food.
I mean organic vegetables.
Organic vegetables. You know, or to be organic, you can’t have pesticides on it, you can’t have heavy metals, so it has to be nutritionally enriched with positive, soil. They might put at they might put additives in it.
Ideally, you’d like just a natural process of compost and manure and stuff like ai, and that’s where
I I use chicken shit on, in my
It works. Yeah. I’ve got some great, lemons and vegetables.
know that people used to go to war over bat shit?
Yeah. Ain’t that nuts? Yeah. Ai guano was so important for fertilizer.
For not only ai, then it became, the the base foundation for lipstick and ai.
Yeah. Bat shit was the foundation for lipstick? Ew. Guano. You Imagine kissing someone, they got bat shit They have guano wars. Yeah. They really did have guano wars. Isn’t that nuts?
Isn’t that where bat shit crazy came from?
Crazy as bat shah, bat shit.
Ai know. The term bat shit crazy, I think that had something to do with how fevered people would fight in a war over batshit. Is it fervent?
Yeah. Whatever it is. Yeah. It’s a good word. I like batshit.
lot of words I don’t use, but I I read them.
when it’s time to use them, I’m like, that’s the appropriate road.
I’m like, how do you fucking say that? Yeah.
You know, I think that that’s where the term bat shit creation came from. It’s In one bizarre link, guano ruled US agriculture and the world. How fertilizer madness sparked into a turd war and turned guano into gold. Yeah, man. People needed that for fertilizer.
Yeah. Does it talk about the cosmetic use of guano?
Fountain of youth. The bat shit’s the fountain of youth?
It’s I what is it? The nitrogen, composition of it is very good for, growth of plants.
This is interesting. It says ai to modern science and agriculture, the whys and hows of soil health largely were mysterious. How soil additives functioned or the knowledge of which minerals were needed and when was the realm of the blind. Beyond animal manure, farmers added soil amendments to by the barrel, composts, human waste, fish, coal ai products, chalk, or whatever unholy concoction was hawked by the latest charlatan Yeah.
To pull to pull up in a wagon at town’s edge and promise a yield bloom. Decade upon decade, the pitfalls of fertilization tormented growers until 1802 when German explorer and scientist Alexander von Humboldt strolled down a waterfront in Peru and felt his nose hairs curl in ammonia rebellion in an odor emanating from barge loads of yellow bryden cake guano.
Von Humboldt was told the stinking bird droppings covered the nearby Chincha Islands in deep layers and were massively popular with Peruvian farmers. So this is interesting. So that’s how they started doing this. So this is in the 1800 Can
I read the next sentence? Sure. Okay. A little dabble do you. Curiosity building the nostril burning von Humboldt took home a scoop of guano to Europe and turned the spigot on agricultural fountain of youth, Ai. E. He sparked a vatsal ai war.
You know what’s the interesting most interesting stuff about fertilizer
Yeah. The what the the do do you know that soil that they have in the Amazon that was, created by man? No. Yeah. It’s it’s called terra preta, and, Graham Hancock, told me about it. It’s there’s a a very specific soil in the Amazon that they think people from, you know, 1000 of years ago figured out how to make.
And this is ai some sort of a compost process, and it’s a very dark soil called terra preta, and this dark soil that exists on the surface layer of a lot of the Amazon was put there by meh. And not just put there by man, but created. Like, they had a process that they have not replicated to this day.
They don’t know what it is or how they did it, but they’re very aware that there was a process involved in making this stuff and that it’s not a natural process of this stuff forming. At least that’s what
he said. That’s what he said.
But meh me see show show him some terra preta. It’s pretty fascinating.
So it’s a dark Yeah. Dark earth.
Yeah. It’s it’s very interesting because you see it, you know, ai, this is, that’s what it looks like. So you see the terra preta is on the surface.
And then you go below it and you just meh, like, regular dirt. But this terra praetida made everything very, very rich. And, you know, it grew so much plants. It’s just, like do you know that the Amazon is mostly human planted plants that grew out of control?
Yeah. That’s Who planted it?
The original settlers of the this is the theory. Right? So they know now that the Amazon was heavily populated. They didn’t used to think that. They used to think there was just this ai, crazy, wild jungle and there’s indigenous populations ai inside of it. Well, at one point in time, there were cities.
So there’s grids. They found indications of, you know, some sort of, transportation of water. They had it looked like streets. They had grids that indicate there were structures there all throughout from the use of LIDAR. Oh, sure. From ai. Yeah. So they well, it’s from actually drones. Oh, meh.
So they fly over with drones and they scan the area. They probably could use satellites too, but they they use drones. They scan the air and even airplanes. They scan the arya, and then they get these images that show these geometric patterns
That exist below. And so they’ve unearthed a lot of these, and so now they think there were millions of people living in the Amazon. And that what probably happened was Europeans came over and gave them all smallpox.
Just like they did with ai% of Native Americans.
But what was done there was done in a place where they had made this environment with terra preta and just because of the, you know, the lush rainforest. It’s ai it rains constantly and vegetation grows so well that as soon as they were gone, within a couple 100 years, everything’s consumed by the jungle.
And then you lead thousands and thousands and thousands of years in the future, there’s nothing left. And that’s what they think they’re looking at when they’re looking at these large sections of the Amazon that have these patterns and structures that indicate civilization.
Yeah. It’s pretty wild. Yeah. I start my mornings looking at, archaeology.
Ai get yeah. I look at archaeology, but the archaeology that I look at in Ai, is in Europe because, you know, I collect ancient coins ram, Europe, from Italy and Germany and so forth and Spain. And I’ve seen the photos where they go over and they see the foundation, as you said, in structures that are man made structures. Yeah. So it’s neat stuff.
It just makes you wonder, how many of those exist out there, you know, in the Mexican jungles and in the Guatemalan jungles and that we don’t even know about?
And Mayan. Yeah. There’s probably a ton of them back there. There’s probably a bunch of stuff because the Amazon is so huge, and most of it is not explored. Most of it is you know, there’s a a bunch of different uncontacted tribes that live in there.
In fact, my friend Paul Rosalie do you know who Paul Rosalie is? No.
Is he the one with the archaeology?
No. He’s essentially working to save the rainforest, and what he does is he goes down there and he hires these people that were loggers to have a new job, and the new job is to protect the forest instead. And they’ve saved, like, shah. I don’t know what the number is, but an incredible large number of acres they’ve saved this way.
And they continue to do this, and they’re trying to work with these people and try to stop them from just destroying the Amazon.
I think Sting, donated a large amount of money to the Brazilian Amazon.
And a lot of, entertainers who have donated a lot of money to protect it.
So my friend Paul, he runs in uncontacted tribes all the tyler. Really? Meh times.
He sent me a video the other day that I can’t share. It’s crazy. These uncontacted tribes, these naked people in the jungle in 2025. Yeah. It’s really wild.
Yeah. They live in isolation.
Yeah. But well, you know, isolation from what? From us From us.
Yeah. What what they they ai the the way people lived, you know, a 100000 years ago, and I would god, if I could be a fly on the wall. Can you imagine the documentary? If we get really good at drones to the point where you can have an an a bunch of drones that really do look like insects and fly them in there and film these folks.
Yeah. And just without them being but the problem then, people would wanna go visit them, you know, and then they can fuck everything up.
Yeah. You have to kept keep it hidden ai your video you were talking about because the
That’s the reason why he doesn’t want the video to get out. He doesn’t want people to know that there’s these people out there, and there’s a lot of them. He sai, well, one of his friends was killed. One of his friends was, murdered by these people.
With the dart? No. With arrows. With Carrari on it.
They could do that. But they, you know, they shot him with bows and arrows. They just fucking killed him. And, you know, this was a guy that was, like, giving them stuff too. It’s like he was bringing over rafts of food, and they’re ai, you know what? Today I
Fuck you. Yeah. You know, we killed a bunch of fish today. We don’t Yeah. We don’t need your bananas.
Have you seen them where the ones the Indians living in the Amazons, they’re shooting down the, the monkeys
Oh, yeah. Ai love monkeys.
They don’t need anything. They’ve they’ve already established a a culture of, hunting, harvesting, and, building their homes or the building their, tools.
Ai out recently? The term Indian is not because Columbus thought that he was in India.
I’d been told that in fucking high school.
It’s the children of God. It’s, what is the original term of Indios? There’s ai I I forget the term, but it’s not about India. It’s just they called them Indians because they are the people that were living here in this place that they had named
But is you know, like, everybody thinks, like, Meh, you know, like, you think of Native Americans, you know, that we used to call them Indians because they thought we landed in India. Columbus landed in India, or he thought he landed in India.
It says that they had the Portuguese word indios, but because Columbus was Portuguese.
Right. But what is there’s a term though. There’s a term ai the people of God.
That’s what the I AI said.
Yeah. But there’s another term. The in something something that has to do with Indios. See, Ai, I don’t Ai is wrong about stuff sometime. Where did the the term That’s
what I just Sai just typed in word the word.
Right. Right. Right. Just just type in why are Native Americans called Indians. That’s that’s not gonna get you there either. Indian. What was the the
fortune of the word Indian.
Ai. So I was listening to this guy talk about this in a lecture. I wish I saved it. I I absorbed too much information Yeah. And don’t follow-up through on it.
I’ll go with our shredded post.
Here’s this one. What does it say? Always in the impression that we use the term India because Europeans were mistaken and they landed in India. However, this HuffPost article explains that it wasn’t possible that we use the term Hindustan for India. That’s what it is. And that Europeans use the term Indio earlier on, which had morphed into Indian. That’s right. It was Indio.
So click on the HuffPost article, the name Indian and political correctness. From 2007. Right. Well, this guy was it was a lecture this guy was giving.
Oh, whoever wrote this could be the guy that gave the lecture.
Mhmm. Could be. Happens. Right. Could be. Tiago. What is he saying? What’s his term? Because there was something there was something that had to do that’s right. Los Ninos Indios.
Okay. We call them Los Ninos. Spelling meh be wrong. The children of God. The description by the Padre means something like the children of God. After many years of use, the word Indios emerged into this day. The indigenous people of South and Central America are called Indios.
Sai this is what this guy was saying. So it said stop. Scroll back. Go back. So it sai, here, I’m a firm believer that most historians are wrong when they credit Christopher Columbus for corning the word Indian because he thought he was landing ships in India.
By 14/92, there was no country known as India. Instead, that country was called Hindustan. I think that it’s close to the truth that Spanish padre that sailed with Columbus was so impressed by the innocence of the natives, he observed that he called them, meaning, spelling may be wrong in the Spanish words, but the description by the padre means something like the children of God.
After many years of uses, the word Indios emerged. And to this day, the indigenous people of South and Central America are called Indios. I’m told that as the word wound wound its way north, it evolved into Indian. Of course, some will say that there’s was a place in the East Indies in ai, and Columbus may have thought he was headed for that region.
So how and when did the effort to politicize the name start? Speak some of it started when Native Americans enrolled in some of the white colleges. I think they found the word Indian offensive and set about to remake it. They found that the word Indian was often used in a derogatory fashion such as drunken Indian or rotten Indian.
Perhaps the white people would have found it more difficult to say drunken Native American.
Yeah. Those dirty white people. Absolutely. They’re a problem. And ai, when some Indian journalists made it to the newsrooms of large and prestigious mainstream newspapers, they reacted the word Indian as they did when they were in college. They went to their editors and tried to impress upon them the paper should no longer use the word Indian, but instead switched to Native American or native. Interesting.
The problem even with Native American is, native for how long? So, like, if you believe the bearing land mass theory that they came across that way that
In a lot of Native Americans, and this was actually tested because of, Mormons. So there was a wealthy Mormon who spent a bunch of money on DNA testing for Native Americans because he was sure that it was gonna relieve it was gonna show that they were from the lost tribe of Israel.
Because he believed that, you know, the Mormon teaching is that, like, the Indians and Native Americans are lost tribes of Israel. But then he found out when they did the DNA testing, no, they’re from Siberia. Like, a lot of them are from Siberia. So that would make sense. They crossed the Bering land bridge their ancestors did, and they wound up in North America.
Well, my people came from, Communist Podolsky into Russia.
Yeah. The Yeah. It was from there from Siberia.
Yeah. We bought Alaska for, like, $50. Yeah. That was, like, the deal of our lifetime. They talk about Century. Manhattan might be the better deal. Like, financially, it’s worth a lot more. Yeah. But ai, Alaska is bigger than Texas. Alaska is huge.
Yeah. And you’ve gone there hunting. Right?
Oh, yeah. I’ve gone there a few times. It’s it’s an incredible place. Alaska’s incredible. It’s really, it’s really wild. Like, that’s the last real frontier. If you wanna get away, move to a small town in Alaska Yeah. And go go live next to Sarah Palin.
I can see Russia from there, so I should become secretary of state.
Remember when you said that?
Russia. Bitch, you can’t even see you can’t even see the rest of Alaska. Alaska is huge. What are you saying?
Yeah. I loved it there. You know? It’s gorgeous. The salmon fishing Mhmm.
And the I love the people. Yeah. The people are just different, man. They’re just rugged people. They’re more reliable. They’re built better. Ai, you have to, like, you usually, like you know how certain genes expressions are turned on and off due to stress and imagine their genes.
They’re dealing with fucking grizzly bears and moose and shit. You know, ai, this is sai I’m sure you’ve seen this video of this guy goes outside of his house in the morning and 2 gigantic moose are duking it out I’ve seen in his ai.
head. Head to head. But Bouncing off cars and shit. Sai. This ai like, woah. And he lives in a neighborhood. It’s like this guy isn’t in the woods somewhere, like, on his own. He’s in a fucking neighborhood. These moose are duking it out.
Yeah. I love that. In in my neighborhood, the old neighborhood in Chatsworth, we had brown bears coming in.
No. You didn’t. You had black bears. You had black bears.
of California. No. No. No. No. No.
What do you mean no. No. No.
No. No. But our brown bears have been extinct in California since the 1800. The last guy to
Yes. The last guy to die from bear attacks ram a brown bear was Steven Levesque, and he died in what’s now Levesque, California. They named the town after him. Yep. And it’s, right outside of Tejon Ranch.
I’ll have to show you send you the pictures.
Well, I’ll tell you what it is. It’s called a color face bear. Cool. So it’s a different it’s a different bear. Okay. So there’s a brown bear, which is a grizzly bear, and the the Kodiak bear
And, you know, those bears. These are norm but they’re all the same bear. The difference between a grizzly bear and a brown bear is just mostly what they eat. So the brown bears in, like, Alaska have so much salmon that they have immense amounts of protein, and they’re the the largest of all the brown bears.
They’re fucking huge. They’re meh, much, much, much bigger than a black bear.
Yeah. We had parks and rangers come to our house because, one of our refrigerators failed. So we had all this great beef in there, so I had to throw it out.
The next day, the bears found it. It was in
You know, canister, and they came there. So I took videos of these what I thought were brown bears coming in. So you’re saying they’re not. What’s the
No. They’re they’re brown color phase. So brown bears can be, excuse me, black bears. Black bears can be brown. Most of them are black. Some of them are even blonde. There’s blonde color phase bears that they find up in Alberta, but they’re black bears. So a black bear is less aggressive than a grizzly bear.
A grizzly bear is a brown bear, and they were killing so many people in California that they wiped him out. That’s what happened.
Well, this one jumped over a 6 foot fence. But before it jumped over the 6 foot fence, it ended up eating chicken and filet mignon and rib ai and everything. The only thing it didn’t eat was the garlic naan.
No. Well, tell you what, that bear is gonna be back.
On the 3rd time, Parks and Recreation came by with a a, dart gun
To try and put it down so that they can transport it to someplace else.
No. No. It jumped over the fence. Yeah. I’ve never seen a bear jump 6 feet.
It sai £250 at least is what they said.
Oh, they can move. They move very, very, very fast. It was unbelievable. Amazed at how fast they can move. Yeah. Like, when they’re chasing after another bear or something’s happening, they’re they move very fast.
And then there was it jumped into our swimming pool.
you know Yeah. I had a but in Pasadena, they have a lot of those. A lot of them
Mhmm. There’s a funny video of this guy in Pasadena. He’s, walking down the street, and he turns into Alley, and he’s just staring at his phone. And he’s walking with his phone and this guy gets to them, like, 30 feet of a fucking bear.
And he just, like, freak sai if you can find it. It’s hilarious.
Yeah. I was, like, 10 feet away.
In Pasadena, ai, in full on Pasadena, not ai the outskirts and the woods the bush. Right. No. Like, actual street city street in Pasadena, black bear.
Yeah. So what do you do when it’s looking you face to face?
Well, you you usually make a noise and try to startle it and frighten it.
And get the fuck out of it. Yeah. Like, hey, bear. You say, hey, bear. That’s what people do. They say, hey, bear. The thing is, like, bears that have been accustomed to people so that right there is a black bear. Okay. That is not a brown bear.
The one that I saw and I think I have a brown bear. Ai might have it on my cell phone, but it was lighter than that.
Yeah. They make like I said, they get even blonde. So that’s a brown black that’s a color phase black bear.
Yeah. Well, let’s see the difference though. Pull up grizzly bear. So grizzly bear is a completely different motherfucker.
Yeah. So on the state flag
of California grizzly bear.
Yes. That is the brown bear that is no long look at the size of those motherfuckers.
nine thing. Woah. See the difference in the size? So that’s a black bear and that’s a grizzly bear.
Grizzlies are much much bigger, much more aggressive, much more dangerous. But interestingly enough, black bears turn out to be more predatory towards humans. So when a black bear attacks people, usually it’s trying to eat them. Whereas, when a grizzly attacks people, generally, ai, a a large percentage of the attacks are I’m good.
A large percentage of the attacks are, people accidentally stumbling upon a mother and their cubs. Mother that’s the worst case scenario.
Yeah. You get near a mama bear. Yeah. That’s so terrifying. They they because they just try to eliminate the threat immediately, and they just go after you and fuck you up. They don’t they don’t look at you and go, what are you doing? What’s this about? They have to protect their cubs.
And there’s so much, cannibalism in the bear world.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Male grizzlies eat cubs, and they they hunt cubs. And so there’s so much cannibalism of cubs from male grizzlies that the females are always on edge. Because everywhere they go, their fear is that they run into a male who’s gonna eat their cubs. Grizzlies are fucking ruthless.
These assholes that think they wanna bring grizzlies back to California. Right. This is like a movement now to bring grizzlies back because just like they brought wolves back to Colorado. These people are retarded, and they’ve never spent a second in the woods. They don’t know what the fuck they’re dealing with.
They don’t know what you’re bringing back and what the consequences are gonna be of those things. And look, there’s places they exist and they’re great. It’s awesome. Go to Montana. You could see them.
Go to, you know, Wyoming. You can see them. Yeah. They’re starting to make their way into Colorado. A friend of mine saw one in the San Juan Mountains. You got video footage of it.
Yeah. I know you go with your archery, hunting. Mhmm. There’s no hunting of bears? No.
There’s a lot of hunters of bears, not in the lower 48. So they’re trying to change that Alaska. They’re trying to change that in Montana because they have so many instances
And, you know, and attacks and a woman was killed a couple years ago. She was dragged out of her tent. Yeah. It’s scary shit, man. Ai I’m not advocating for the eradication of grizzlies. I’m just saying that with our modern ai, when they haven’t existed in an ecosystem to reintroduce that to the ecosystem, you’re you’re gonna cause chaos. You’re gonna cause havoc.
Mhmm. And if you want healthy bryden populations of them, good luck. Good luck. Because now everything changes. All your livestock changes, your dogs change, your dogs are gonna get eaten. Anything you you have a dog chained up in the backyard, that’s meat on a stick.
Yeah. That’s over. They’re gonna they and they’re going to do that. They’re going to target your garbage. You’re not gonna be able to get rid of them. They’re gonna keep coming back. It’s they’re dangerous animals, and they’re beautiful and amazing and an important part of the ecosystems that they exist in currently, like Montana and Wyoming where there’s elk populations and a lot of food for them
Yeah. I personally can’t see for myself going out hunting for bears or elks or moose. And I know you do that, but they’re such incredible animals.
They’re just incredible animals. They are. Yeah. I just can’t see If you don’t put
The way they die without me is way worse. If I get them, I’m gonna get them with an arrow, and they’re gonna be dead in seconds.
If they get attacked by a bear or a mountain lion, it’s fucking brutal. It’s brutal. And the worst you mean, they might just freeze to death. That’s how most of them go. I know I shot an elk a couple years ago that was 11 years old and he had almost no teeth left. His teeth were ground down because, you know, they’re just they don’t live long and part of it is because they can’t grind food after a certain age.
Because their teeth are I mean, they’re just digging into the ground and pulling out shrubs and grasses, and they’re constantly mashing and smashing. And over the period of, you know, 11 years, his his teeth had worn down to the roots.
Yeah. So you’ve gone after bears?
And you’ve eaten it? Yeah. What’s the meat like?
It’s like beef. It’s like a like a like a pig fucked a cow. That’s what it’s like. It’s like a weird kind of beef. Okay. Maybe a deer fucked a cow. It’s, it’s good though. It’s good. It but it’s dependent upon the diet of the animal. So, like, the people that hunt grizzly bears and they’ve eaten grizzly bears or brown bears, they say they taste so fishy. It’s it’s almost intolerable.
But you could turn them into sausage. You could do the right spices and stuff. Like, bear sausage is great. But you also has to be have to be careful because of trichinosis. Sai you have to make sure you cook it to a 160 plus degrees Yeah.
To kill the trichinosis. Yeah. Because I know several people that got trichinosis from bear meat. Heart? Well, it’s just parasites in your muscles. Yeah.
And it doesn’t have too many adverse effects. It means very painful and brutal for the beginning exposure, you know, the beginning infection. But then the thing is ai if if you’re a cannibal and you eat that dude and you don’t cook them right, you’re gonna get it from him, which is really crazy.
One of the reasons why Ai don’t eat pig that you got after me in the last time we were here, pig has a lot of ai. Sure. And a lot of them aren’t cooked to the level to kill the parasites, cysticercosis and so forth.
Yeah. Especially wild pigs.
Yeah. You know what the number one source of trichinosis is for people in America? Nope. Black bears. Isn’t that crazy? Think about how few people eat black bears.
number one source of trichinosis in America for people that test positive for it.
So it’s through contamination?
From food. From eating them.
Yeah. Because there’s a lot of people that hunt black bears.
Yeah. Sana get really get blown away?
What you know what has the state has the largest population per capita of black bears in the country?
Yep. New Jersey. New Jersey. New Jersey has an infestation of black bears. New Jersey, we played this video a 100 times ai there’s these giant bears that are duking it out in a beautiful suburb of Far Rockaway, New Jersey.
So it’s ai nice nice normal not like the woods. Yeah. Not like, you know,
fucking Residential area.
Yeah. Not the mountains. Yeah. Residential area. They knock over this mailbox, and they’re duking out in the street. Big fucking bears. Big bears. A guy recently shot the state record black bear in New Jersey, and he was £800. Yeah. You should see it. Pull that video up, the photo rather up of this guy’s bear. So, I’m pretty sure that was archery as well.
They banned bear hunting in New Jersey when the new governor came into place. That lasted for about a year. And then the human interactions with bears were so frequent and so that they re restarted their bear hunting program. It’s an important tool. Look at the size of the bear. Look at the fucking ai.
7 70 dressed. Wow. That’s 770 after they gutted it. And they added another £800 for its intestines and organs. Another another £100 rather. So it was they think sai so it’s field dress, the bear, before it was officially weighed in at 770. So it’s probably quite a bit heavier than that.
you see there’s other pictures of it where you really get a better size of it, see if you can find some other pictures of it because That is huge. Yeah. Some other pictures of have it laid out and they’re you know, you could see what it looks like. It’s a fucking giant bear, but it’s because they have so much food there. And a lot of these bears exist look at the size of that thing.
A lot of these bears exist around, humans.
And you’ve gone after a black bear?
The the black bears that I’ve shot are like £200 to 250. Well, they didn’t look like babies.
but, yeah, you eat them, man. And it’s also it’s an important part of conservation because if you don’t control their populations, no one does. This is the thing about bears. They are the top of the food chain. Yeah. So if you’re not controlling them, no one does. And so what they do is they eat each other. That’s the only control of bears is the, infanticide of the cubs by the males.
Sai And the females too, by the way.
You wanna hear a crazy thing, my friend Jonathan? He watched this bear and this female bear. Because sai the male bear came around, the female bears trying to fight him off, and she eventually can’t. And the male bear gets a hold of 1 of her cubs and kills it, and she chases him off of her dead cub.
Then she eats her cub. Woah. Woah. Woah. That’s the real world. Woah. That’s the real world. She ate her cub right in front of him, and he was he came back to camp. He was like, fuck.
Yeah. So that’s the balance that has to be struck in where was it? Montana where they had open season for, for elk or for, moose? No. Was it moose?
No. There’s no open season. There’s no, like
Which state was it? Were they had
open? Season open season you
didn’t need a permit? Right. They had a cull to haul
There’s no way. They would never do that with elk. Elk is a very valuable moose. No. No. No. They never do that with moose either. They would never do that with they wouldn’t they do it in some communities with white tailed deer, and the reason why they do it is because they’re completely overpopulated.
And oddly enough, this happens a lot in the suburbs. Like, there’s places in the suburbs, yeah, where people there’s ai people who bow hunt in the suburbs. Because, like, look, if you’re bow hunting, your arrow doesn’t go more than a 100 yards. Right? It’s not like you have to worry about you shoot and someone a mile away gets hit by a bullet
If you miss. Yeah. You you your your arrow drops. It arcs. Right? Archery. It arcs. Sure. So it drops down to the ground. It only goes so far, and so it’s safer if you have competent hunters who are skilled to hunt in the suburbs. And, you know, most of these suburbs have wooded arya, and they’re infested with deer. So I think it was Pennsylvania. The states that were were bringing in bowhunters.
In New York and in all their wisdom, these fucking dorks, in, in the area around the Hamptons, they have this issue. But the people are so fucking retarded
That yeah. Well, it’s just it’s the Hamptons because they’re rich. Yeah. It’s ai if you have regular Long Island, regular Long Island probably say, yeah. We should hunt them because they’re food.
Yeah. There you go. Sai, they decided they were gonna just try to sterilize the deer and give them birth control. They were good. They came up with all these wacky concepts, but
wanna bring in bowhunters.
But wasn’t there in the last, what, 5 years, there was an overpopulation of moose or deer?
Elk? There’s never been an ai. No. No. No. No. There’s been times where they had seasons in winter for elk in Montana, and the reason it was a a complete depopulation effort. So they had had, this is before the reintroduction of wolves though. So the reintroduction of wolves, which is in the 19 nineties, has significantly impacted the elk population.
And now it’s actually more difficult to get a tag. But back then, they would have certain seasons that would have in the winter. So you’d be able to get these these elk that were out there in the snow moving very slowly in the deep snow, and you could just kinda pick them off.
And it was basically just a meat hunt, and it was a lot they killed a lot of cows that way, cow elk. And it was just a way for people to get meat, And, also, they were trying to put a dent on the population because it wasn’t sustainable. So they would have an elk herd of, you know, thousands of elk where it really should have been, like, 800 elk with the sustainable the sustainability of the area.
And the bear couldn’t keep up. They couldn’t eat enough of them. The mountain lions couldn’t eat enough of them, and then they brought in the wolves. And the wolves were way better than everybody else because they hunt together, and they started really chipping away at them. And now they’ve knocked the elk population down.
I think it’s in the neighborhood or they dropped it by 40% or plus.
Now what was the need for reducing the elk population?
Well, if you don’t have a balanced ecosystem, right, if you don’t have enough predators and you have a large animal like an elk, like a bull elk is an 800 pound animal and a cow elk, a mature cow elk is north of £300, £400. So this is a lot of food and they can decimate little vegetation and there was a documentary that’s, kind of like poo pooed by people, but interesting nonetheless.
It’s how, how wolves changed rivers, and it’s all about how the Yellowstone eco system changed because of their introduction of wolves and more songbirds came in because there was more vegetation, because the introduction of wolves, they killed off a lot of the elk. The elk had been just, like, maybe overbalanced in the fact that, like, overrepresented. They were eating too much vegetation. Yeah.
So it’s all interesting, but what you really want is things to happen naturally. And then when there’s a problem, you know, really the best way to handle the problem if there’s, like, an overabundance of these animals is to bring in hunters. The other solution would be to bring in predators.
The problem with bringing in predators is if you have a predator like wolves that has been forever, maligned because they go after livestock and they do target ranchers, ai, there’s there was an article I read today actually about these these ranchers that were kind of optimistic about wolves being introduced into Colorado, and now they vehemently oppose it because they’ve seen the impact.
And one of the reasons why they saw the impact is because the governor of Colorado and all his fucking infinite wisdom, he had a a mandate to get these wolves introduced during a certain amount of ai, and they didn’t have the wolves. So they got wolves from Oregon that they had captured while they were preying on livestock.
So these wolves were already accustomed to preying on livestock and those are the wolves they reintroduced into Colorado. They reintroduced wolves that had already been there have been, like, naturalized to killing livestock. And so what they start doing? They arya finding livestock and killing them again. Duh.
Arya you But that’s the thing. It’s ai you’re you’re fucking around with nature and you don’t know how this calculation is gonna end. You’re there’s like a good example is Australia. Australia is a fucking mess because they kept bringing in animals, and then they’d bring in animals to kill the animals, and then they’d have an overpopulation of certain animals, so they bring in vatsal.
And now they have an overpopulation of feral cats, the point where they hunt feral cats. Like, if you look at an Australian bow hunting journal, you know, they have bow hunting magazines. My buddy, Adam Greentree shout out to Adam Greentree. My buddy, Adam, gave me a magazine from Australia bow hunting. I’m like, bro, what the fuck is this? It’s all cats.
These guys are holding up house cats because they kill feral cats whenever they can. Because feral cats have decimated ground nesting birds, and they’ve destroyed you just all of a shit ton of native animals that were in that area. So they brought them in to kill some other animal they brought in. It’s ai, you can’t fuck around with nature like that. You don’t know what the consequences are.
And when you do ballot box biology, which is essentially what this stuff is. So the reintroduction of wolves is something people voted on. The people that voted on it are living in fucking Denver. Ai? They don’t encounter wolves. They don’t know what they’re doing. It’s like the same thing happened in Vancouver.
So in British Columbia, they outlawed grizzly bear hunting. Why they do that? Because, hey, meh. Why would you kill it? They call it trophy hunting, but it’s important to manage the predators.
And the people that knew this were the people that ai in the rural areas that were vehemently opposed to this bryden, and then what happens? Well, you get ballot box biology. You get people that have no experience with bears, don’t encounter bears, don’t have to worry about bears, and they say, yeah, let’s not ban them anymore.
Now you got bears breaking into people’s houses, and there’s much more of them than ever before, and people are freaked out. You can’t do anything about it.
Yeah. I freaked out when the bear came to the house. Yeah. You should.
I’m seeing this fucking bear, £250, swimming in my swimming pool, you know, going back and forth. And then the, Department of, Parks and Rangers came, you know, came in to try and, deal with it.
Yeah. They said, stop feeding it. I’m not feeding it. I put the fucking, you know, beef into the garbage can because it’s no longer you know, it wasn’t frozen.
Bear kept on don’t put it there. Where should I put it? Yeah. Where do you put
asshole neighbor’s house.
have some guy that’s annoying, go use his garbage in
I’m gonna have to put it into
You should dress up, though. Dress up like a Ku Klux Klan member or something like that
so they don’t know you look like bear to
the Rolls Royce. Oh, there
remember that one? No. What was that?
You didn’t see that? It’s, Oh, that’s right. A guy
was wearing a bear suit and did an insurance fraud. Insurance fraud. They brought in the bear expert and said that bear would not have gone into the Rolls Royce and done those scrape marks on it.
So this guy was trying to get rid of his car?
He was trying to get, insurance money.
Yeah. Yeah. I’ve learned right now so much more about bears.
Yeah. They’re a wild animal. Yeah. I mean, not wild. Just wild, but fascinating.
You know, Teddy Roosevelt and, you know, when he did his bear hunting
Loved it. The bears are such
You know what the scariest bear to run across is?
You know why? No. Because they don’t eat anything but meat. At least grizzly bears if you find a grizzly bear that’s in a blueberry field, you probably don’t have to worry about them. Are sana gonna be Oh, yeah. They’d be gorging on blue but black bears and grizzly bears are omnivorous. So they eat vegetation, and they also eat meat.
Polar bears are just carnivores. Wow. And they’re hyper aggressive. Wow. Yeah. They just eat seals and occasionally people. But they they hunt people. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. They’ll go after you. They smell you from a distance to hunt you.
Meh bed body odor or something?
Just you smell. Everybody smells.
You know, you’d be amazed at how much a bear can smell. There was a a a video where my friend was in, I forget what part I think they were in Montana, maybe Ai. And, a bear was 700 yards away plus, and the wind hit the back of his neck, and the bear started running.
And he’s like, did that fucking bear wind us?
Like, the bear caught their smell from 700 yards away.
No. The other way. It was a black Ai
Black bears run away. Shah.
Yeah. Well, in any area where the bears get hunted, they run away.
You know, like in Alaska, if they smell you, generally, they run away because people hunt bears in Alaska. They don’t have saloni experience with getting hunted. Black bears do, but grizzly bears don’t in the lower 48. In the lower 48, it’s not legal to hunt them meh. But they’re trying to
Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Great new information for me.
Absolutely. It’s a wild world. And, you
know, you you live in the city and you think it’s cute. Oh, let’s go for a ai. Yeah.
of a sudden, you meet a fucking mountain lion.
Well, we have mountain lions for Oh, fuck. Houses. Yeah. Mountain ai.
Deer, bobcats. Mhmm. Lot of You have
a lot more deer if it wasn’t for the mountain lions. And that’s what the wildlife, lovers want. They want nature to balance itself out. The problem is they eat your cats and dogs too. A lot of them. In San Francisco, it was, like, 50% of the, problem cats that they caught. They found out their diet was pets. Yeah. 50% of their diet was pets.
Yeah. And the coyotes mostly. Right?
The coyotes Yeah. Were the ones they were, indoor cats and every now and then they would go out.
Do they really? They they swoop in and pick them up and Yeah. Take them ai.
A buddy of mine, has a friend who works in, like, tree service, and they found a nest, an owl nest. It was filled with cat collars. They had, like, 10 cat collars in there.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We’ve had owls where we are. We’re in Santa Susana Pass.
Do you know owls are stupid? No. Yeah. They’re dumb. Know that whole thing of wise old owl? They’re one of the dumbest birds. They don’t learn things. They’re stupid. I talked to a lady who’s a falconer, and she trains birds. And she has an owl, and she’s ai, it’s the dumbest bird I have.
She’s like this idea that owls are wise. She’s like the the 2nd dumbest bird.
I forget. Ostrich? See if you can find it. It’s in the ostrich family. It’s another animal that’s in the ostrich family. It’s ostriches might be dumber than than owls. They’re really dumb.
Always got their head in the sand.
Well, they’re also big. Yeah. They’re big. They don’t they don’t fuck you.
don’t kill you. They kick you to death.
What’s the other breed that’s it’s not ostrich, but it’s in the same family.
Castleway? It’s Cassaway? I think that’s what it’s called. That’s the one that’s dangerous. They they kill people. Yeah. That’s you ever seen that fucking weird bird?
what it’s in that am I saying it right?
Cassaway. That’s right. Cassaway.
Yeah. They’re freaky looking, man. They’re freaky looking. Looking. Yeah. They’re a big ass bird too, but they kill people. The people have died by being attacked by these birds.
And what? Speak them on their face?
I think they claw them. I think they attack you with their claw. It might be their face too. Their face looks like a fucking hatchet. Yeah.
That’s wow. Beautiful bird. Beautiful.
Wow. Sana looking at you.
Yeah. Wow. Look at the comb.
Google cassowary kills people.
And where are they found? Just in Australia?
I don’t know where that one is. A massive flightless emu like creature.
As the most dangerous bird in the world, owing to the fact that it’s it can seriously injure or kill a human or a dog in an instant with his deadly claws. Yeah. It’s the claws. Yeah. They just rip you apart. So they go for your guts, you know. That’s the sai like, yeah. Yeah. Look at their tips.
Oh, my God. They got fucking talons for claws.
They can eviscerate a human being with a single kick. Although there’s no record of this happening, was it because the people are dead? Are they gonna run 13 miles an hour?
Killed a 75 year old man who was raising 1.
He tripped and fell on it and the bird’s back.
Oh, Jesus Christ. It’s come to his head. Yeah. Wow. Well, that’s a bird I’m not gonna collect. Yeah. What’s your one name?
What’s the dumbest bird, Jamie?
Ai so it’s Well, hey. It said owls are smart when I Google where our dumb are smart. Lies. Lies.
they’re almost as smart as a crow or
I did see some stuff saying they’re not that smart or their brains are different, but they have really good eyesight and stuff.
yeah. They have color eyesight. No. Owls are not dumb.
Yeah. That’s right. Lies.
Lies. I was talking to a lady.
And she one lady told you they’re not dumb.
Falconers. And if you have 3, it’s a done deal. 2 different people. And now you’re like in the last year, I’ve I’ve hung out with 2 different falconers and their animals Yeah. Believe it or not. One of them had an eagle. Yeah. She had a, a female bald eagle. It was amazing. Dude, you we I caught it on my arm. You know, you put the glove on.
You have to put a different glove for the eagle than the other animals because its talons are so powerful. Yeah. But having that thing land on your arya, it’s crazy.
The shoebill might be the dumbest bird. Shoebill? Even though it makes that cool ass sound.
Oh, yeah. They’re cool. Have you ever seen that fucking thing? A shoebill?
Stupidest bird in the wild.
They make a sound that sounds like shah. Like, They slap their jaws together, and they stand like that. That’s what it looks
See how the the thing standing up? The thing’s ai 5 feet tall. Imagine a 5 foot tall bird with those evil eyes and that giant face. Look at his fucking mouth. Look at that beak. Get get a video of
That’s what it Ai mean, there’s multiple articles repeating it.
The dodo was really dumber too.
But can you do Google’s shoebill makes noise, shoebill noise? Yeah. It’s really cool. It sounds like a machine gun,
isn’t it? Clacking, so they kind of shake the bottom and the top of their beak or their bill backwards and forth
at different speeds. Shah the fuck up, dude. Shut this dude up. And that’s
Shut this dude up. How crazy is that?
Imagine that getting a hold of your face.
Imagine that Or fucking massive ai. Lower down.
It’s a big animal too, man. They’re big.
I think they’re, like, 5 feet tall. 5 fuck. Ain’t that nuts? Wow. And they they look like they’re from a different time. They look like they’re like you went back at 3.5 to 5 feet tall. Yeah. I think they look like they’re from dinosaur times. Yeah. It doesn’t even make sense.
Like, look at that thing. You ever heard of a terror bird? No. Terror birds used to exist, like, more than a 1000000 years ago.
Right? I work in human, you know, anatomy. I know that you’re on
a human. Meh. I work in meat fighting.
Oh, yeah. I work in people eating
the shit out of each other.
Yeah. And I sana complain. About what? I was expecting to find some elk sticks out in your front.
First time I had it complain? Yeah. Well, I’m not complaining. Ai. But I asked, and they said it’s not available.
Jamie, do you Google terror bird? Ai, yeah, that image with a human being.
Right there. So that is what they look used to look like. Imagine that.
A 9 foot to 10 foot tall ai flight flightless bird, and they called them terror birds.
Terror ai t e r r o r? Terror. Uh-huh.
Like, you’d be terrified if you saw that fucking giant bird.
Look at that fucking scared shit list.
They don’t exist anymore.
When did they die off? Look at it. It looked ai, woah.
Isn’t that crazy? Imagine seeing that 10 feet tyler.
Look at the size of it. That’s what they used to look like.
Well, that’s a recreation, obviously.
I don’t know where that is.
Said it was, based off of a fossil and
Yeah. Yeah. Fossil remnants.
What year did they go extinct? 55,000,000,000 years ago. I think it was a couple million.
Yeah. 55,000,000,000 years ago.
It says right there when did the terra berg go extinct? Cenozoic era? When’s that?
What date was that? Okay. It was January
66 oh, a lot more. A lot longer
Sai the current geological age of Earth oh, it’s the current geological age beginning 66000000 years ago and continuing to the present. So when did the terror birds go extinct? Does it say? When did they go extinct?
How do you pronounce that word?
Fungi. Hold on. How do you how do you pronounce that?
P h ferrousitis? Ai ferrousitis? Ai, how would you say it? You’re a dog.
Terror bird. I would say a terror bird.
Oh, it’s only 1,000 of years ago?
Survived in one of them survived ai the late Pleistocene. Woah. 60 3. I mean, they could have been Lungus, ai, you know.
Holy shit. One of them survived up until 6000 years ago? A ai well, between 9,600,000. I thought it was 1,000,000.
It’s a late Pleistocene. Wow. A 100000 years
Yeah. Neanderthal male. Around. Man, ages up. Right?
No. I don’t think Neanderthals were here. They were European. I think, there’s probably a bunch of assholes who wanna bring those back too. You know? They wanna bring back the mammoth. That’s probably next. Let’s bring back
ai They’ve been working on that. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. They’ll probably just call it a different name. They won’t call it a terror bird. They’ll call it something cute. Yeah. You know, the conservation bird. He’s gonna make sure that all
Big bird. Yeah. We’re gonna bring that
him yellow so people love him. Hello, big bird.
Unbelievable. Yeah. So Natural world. So speaking of which, since
we’re talking about ridiculous shit and you are a doctor, I wanted to bring this up to you because Jamie and I were, exchanging text messages yesterday about these mummies that they found in Peru that have three fingers. Not
don’t they don’t know what they are, but they have 3 fingers and not three fingers because they cut the fingers off. They actually they’re
Genetically, it’s 3 fingers. And their cranial capacity, it’s they have a large head, which a lot of times they think was due to, you know, they would form their head and, like, press press boards to make their head stretch out, which they definitely did in some tribes.
Chinese do it. But the question
is ai were they doing that, and then were they doing it to replicate something else? Yeah.
thing about these is that they had a cranial capacity that is larger than most human beings.
It looks like a fucking alien.
That’s a fuck that’s correct.
But is that real? Here’s the question. Appear okay. 3 fingered alien mummies. Click on that article and see where where are they getting this info. I know it’s in, yeah, New York Post. So 3 fingered alien mummies found in Peru have fingerprints that do not appear to be human.
So the fingerprints that it has, instead of spirals, I think they’re lines. And Google go and scope but scroll back scroll back. Go back to where you were. Look at that image. That’s x-ray image of their fingers. So these are ai real bones and digits. Yeah. So this isn’t just a a a statue that someone made.
This has real bone structure that is exact to ai what a human being has with all those little tiny muscles in the mid hand. Right? I mean, that all looks normal but weird with the 3 fingers and 3 toes. And so if you scroll down, you’ll see more images. So this is what it looked like when they found it. So the body is covered. Go back so I ai read that, please.
It says the body is covered with how do you say that?
Diatomaceous earth, a type of white powder made from the sediment of fossilized algae found in the bodies of water. The only possible explanation for the unusually straight fingerprints could possibly have something to do with the way her skin was preserved, he said, noting that it’s very odd.
So the US medical examiner traveled to Peru last April to study the bodies with the lack of human fingerprints is puzzling. He said it would be extremely premature to make any statements about the mummy’s origins. So they know for a fact that these things are biological and they’re not creative.
Have they done any sort of DNA? Look at the look at the picture of what it actually looks like. That’s fucking crazy. Yeah. That does look like an alien.
I mean, that’s exactly what people expect to see at their bed in the middle of the night.
Yeah. You said it looks like an alien. Yeah. It is an alien.
If it’s real. It’s so hard. And no no disrespect to the post, but, you know, people bullshit. Not those. Those those Ai think have proven to be horseshit. But if you scroll up, scroll back to where you were, back to where you were, that thing. Okay. I wanna know what that is. Like, what is that?
If the because it’s got 3 fingers and 3 toes, and it’s got an alien face. It looks like a gray. It has a tiny slot for a mouth and tiny dots for a nose. It looks like the archetypal angel or the archetypal ai rather that people see in, like, Close Encounters of the 3rd Time 3rd Kind. And what was that other movie?
The the Whitley Ai movie, Communion. Communion I
That’s a that’s a weird one because Whitley Stryver is also a fiction ai, and he wrote this book about his own personal experiences with aliens, which I wanna believe him.
Yeah. That’s classical impression
Face wise of an alien of gray as
100%. Yeah. Even with the shape of the eye like, the eyes are kind of slanted, like, not like a human’s. Like, they’re at angles just like they always they always show them with these kind of they look You know,
the the big ai, the ai, the large yeah.
Imagine one of them around here somewhere, don’t we?
There’s aliens all over this fucking
But that classic look is exactly what those mummies look like. Sai they have straight go back. Yeah. They What did you just wear? Three figures. Jesus Ai. All these pop ups. Isn’t that crazy? Yeah. It says the humanoid 3 fingered alien mummies have straight fingerprints. It does not match those of humans according to an attorney who reviewed one of the controversial specimens. Oh, an attorney said that.
That’s the rest of this came from is because this guy didn’t believe
everyone was saying. So he’s like, we’re gonna go look.
So Joshua McDowell, a former Colorado prosecutor and current defense attorney, examined one of the tiny strange bodies named Maria, with 3 independent forensic medical examiners from the United States. Scroll. It said he and the experts were shocked to discover that the fingerprints in the ET like corpses were in perfectly straight lines.
They were not traditional human fingerprint patterns, he told the Daily Mail. But what did they do an analysis of the tissue? Like, did they find out that it’s actually, biological tissue? Can you scroll down further?
It doesn’t say anything. It doesn’t say anything.
was trying to go to different articles to find better
a forensic prosecutor. I’m a criminal criminal defense attorney. I’ve seen lots of fingerprints, and these were not classic fingerprints. Look how weird it is. Look at that image. That’s so crazy looking. Yeah. How and also, how did I just find out about this yesterday? We ai about it before.
I ai, but I I never saw it look like this. What I saw were those other ones that I think have been proven I might be wrong, but I think at least allegedly had been proven to not be real. And that the person who was exposing those, those little tiny ones that were, like, laying down straight, that guy had a history of, doing some deceptive stuff, allegedly. Yeah.
So But you believe that they’re there. Do I believe You believe that the aliens are here?
Do not not believe. So I don’t disbelieve. You’re ambivalent as to the fact that they I believe that they’re here.
I wouldn’t even say I’m ambivalent. I am open minded.
Okay. But, You won’t say meh?
Yeah. I’m logical. Yeah. I think there’s a lot of deception going on.
I think there’s also the possibility that what we’re dealing with is not as simple as we like to think. Yeah. These things. So these things I’ve heard are bullshit. I don’t might be might be wrong, but I’m trying
Well, ai So that information? Vatsal journalists.
That Jane that journalist that unveiled the bodies and the guy who exposed the bodies the guy who exposed the bodies, I think, was the one the guy who came up with it.
That’s ai I was trying to figure out how so there’s an issue of them being found in Peru and taken to Mexico. Oh. It’s already that issue.
And then where they said they were found near NASCA in 2017. I’m trying to figure out, okay, who who
Yeah. That was the thing about that that alien looking one with the 3 fingers that was even more interesting to meh. Because that’s that area where there’s these incredible patterns that are made on the ground that you can only
Or not speak, the air. Right. You can only see looking down on them.
ai why would anybody even make those things? And some of them look like it like the images look like animals and stuff.
Yeah. Weird stuff. And some of them look like maybe even a a person. No. Where’d it go? Mexican doctors have examined 2 bodies that feature elongated heads and 3 fingers on each hand. Same thing, 3 fingers. They found no evidence of any assembly or manipulation of the skulls, but other scientists have panned the discovery as an elaborate stunt.
Ai sana 70, who touted the per purported extraterrestrial as the most important thing that has happened to humanity, has denied any wrongdoing. Scroll down. Look at that. How fucking weird.
Yeah. I believe that there are aliens. Why do you believe that? Why do I believe that? Yeah. Why would be why would we be the only people on a planet when there are millions and billions of planets out there? And we’ve reached a level of technology that allows us to send a ship to the moon, anticipation with Musk to go to, you know, to Mars and so forth.
Right. How about there are other, people on other planets who have accelerated, been there 1000000 of years longer than we have? Why is it
That they’re able to come to us to see what we’re doing? We’re going out to other planets to see what, you know, was on other planets. I remember reading that. I believe that, you know, there are other people out there.
According to the UFO Aficionado, by the way as as you say, according to UFO Aficionado Ai already started looking at you.
The analysis showed that the humanoids are not related to any known earthly species and that 1 third of their DNA is unknown. There
Well, take it and map it. Let’s make a new one.
Yeah. Let’s look at the DNA rods, guys. To ours.
Get those masked on ai and introduce some simian biology into them and turn it into a new ai alien.
Says these specimens are not a part of our evolutionary history of Earth. The university has since distanced itself from Sana, claiming its scientists took no part in the research and never came in contact with the full corpses. In no case do we make conclusions about the origin of these samples, the University’s National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerator Accelerator said in a statement. Okay.
The presence of arya 14 allegedly detected in the specimens prove the samples were related to brain and skin tissues from different mummies who died at different times.
What does that mean? Yeah.
From one individual? Is that saying from one individual? The presence of arya 14 allegedly detected in the specimens prove that the samples were related to brain and skin tissue from different mummies who died at different times. So they’re all different they come from different ai, and they’re all different little mummies. Sai that’s what they’re saying.
So what they’re saying is that the carbon isotope dating is showing that that’s what it is. Right? Is that what they’re saying?
So how do you account for the fact that in in Egypt and in the Mayan rooms and so forth Hold on.
This is our buddy, Ryan. US Navy pile pilot Ryan Graves, who attended the hearing to share his personal experience with alleged UFO sightings, later slammed Mao Zedong’s presentation as a stunt. He said yesterday’s demonstration was a huge step backwards for this issue. Graves wrote on x, formerly Twitter, I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt.
Well, he’s a very legitimate guy, Ryan Graves, and very intelligent. And if he’s saying it’s a stunt, now I’m super skeptical. He’s a hit okay. He has a history of making controversial claims about other alien remains that have been wildly discredited ai discredited. Okay.
In 2017, you participated in a TV documentary about other specimens recovered near Peru’s Vatsal ai, which experts have said to have been concocted out of modified mummies. Yeah. So one of their talking about that other thing when they’re saying that.
That’s that’s all older than the one we were looking at.
The one we’re looking at, when did they find that one? When they find that alien?
That’s I it’s at the same time. That’s why I was trying to get into this, and the sources aren’t great. It’s all this sai they’re all coming from the same area around the same time, but they all look different.
Yeah. That looks super different. That one looks more like the way something you’d find dead. Ai, the way it’s like, even the way vatsal legs are rotted away. Like, it it it doesn’t look fake.
That one video we watched or we you sent me was getting more towards, like, they could have been found in a burial type site than other groups used similar things.
Where did they find this one though? This is the one I’m interested in.
fact that they did an x-ray and they show the actual fingers and toes, and that it looks just like real fingers and real toes with actual bones. That’s crazy.
Cubiform bones, the phalanx,
you know, they’re consistent with, you know, looking vatsal human hands.
Right. But it’s consistent with a human hand that would have 3 fingers. Right? It doesn’t have Yeah. There’s not missing digits.
So you say it’s genetic abnormalities, so they only have 3 fingers?
It could be. Well, there’s a group of people in Africa that have, like, bird feet. Have you ever seen them? No. They have toes. It’s like a genetic mutation that exists, and it’s thought to be ai a prize thing. And these people have, like, 2 toes to and their their feet branch off like this. And there’s a bunch of people in this village Yeah.
That have these feet that are like this. I forget what they call them, like bird feet or Ai forget how they describe them. Yeah. These are the folks. So see that? Yeah.
So now if you found these guys and there’s not just one of them, substantial minority of vedoma have a condition known as extra you said that. You’re the doctor. Ectodactyly. Ectodactyly, which means the middle three toes are absent and the two outer ones are turned in, resulting in the tribe being known as the 2 toed or ostrich footed tribe.
So go to images and see what that looks like. It’s really wild because there’s, like, a bunch of them hanging out together. Like, look at their feet. Sai now if you found a body that had those, you would say, oh, those are aliens.
No. But look at that alien. If you go back to the one that was original with the eyes and the face and the ai
Well, it certainly looks like what I would think a gray would be. Correct. And the fact that it doesn’t have a thumb is odd too, but that is also one of the things that people have said about these things.
There’s also this they always has, always have said that they have very long fingers. And you look at his fingers in relation to the size of the body, they’re very long, long fingers and very long toes. Yeah.
I mean So how do you account for the fact that there are multiple, you know, from the Assyrians to the Egyptians to the Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayans, where they have on their, on their structures, they have imagery of flying saucers, helicopters on alien. You know, there is couple with the they look alien.
I think the helicopter one,
You think it’s all fraud?
I think that one is. But why is it people Shah. I think it is.
Yeah. I’m pretty sure that’s been shown, but the planes
That they found Mhmm. That are, like, wooden carved planes. Ai, they look like airplanes that have they found in tombs. That’s fascinating. They have a rudder. They have a tail. They have wings, and they it looks like a plane.
Yeah. So how do you count
How do you count for that?
Well, I don’t know what we’re looking at, and I think there’s more to reality than we see. I have a feeling that our senses are extremely limited and that there’s other dimensions that we don’t have access to that might have access to us. I don’t necessarily discredit the idea of something traveling from another planet.
I think we might be dealing with that too. I think we might be dealing with a bunch of different civilizations and entities that are at very different stages of evolution. So if life exists all throughout the galaxy, we we we know a bunch of things. Right? We know that planets have certain ages.
We know that some planets are very old and some planets are much younger, and we know that some planets are much closer to the sun and some planets live in a very hospitable environment. We know that some planets like ours are essentially in a shooting gallery because there’s 900,000 near Earth objects or more that are flying around slamming into things.
And if it wasn’t for Jupiter, we’d be fucked. If it wasn’t for Jupiter’s enormous gravity and mass pulling everything into it, that’s, like, basically our catcher. It catches all the shit ai course, the moon itself is pockmarked with so imagine a planet that doesn’t have that issue.
Imagine a planet that has a different environment where there’s not a bunch of shit flying around. And they think that flying around stuff is largely a part of collisions, like planets colliding with each other in the distant past, and that’s actually how Earth got formed. You got a bathroom? Yeah. Go go. Go. Go. Go. Thanks.
Ai this is a good time. I’m investigating this stuff. Jamie’s in the middle of the bath.
Meh. I’m excited. Investigate. Why would there be Just like go speak. Go pee. Come on, buddy.
To the left. Yeah. This dude’s already lit. Uh-huh. He’s had 3 giant glasses of, whiskey. He’s 78 years old?
Yeah. I got a clear picture of that egg too.
God, I hope my brain works that good when I’m 78. You know what I’m saying? Like, that dude just he doesn’t need any notes. He’s just pulling all his information out of the ether.
So the guy who took him you mean to wait?
egg? No. No. Fuck the egg. This is the Nazca mommy stuff.
He said he removed as many as 200 sets of remains from the cave. Woah. Some of the bodies have been smuggled out of Peru to France, Spain, and Russia. Oh. In an interview with Reuters, he sai, this is from
What would you do? 24. Let’s ask this. What would you do if somebody got you one of them mummies? If someone say, hey, Jamie, give me that money that you won from Shane. Oh, look at that. Woah. The same thing though, 3 toes. Yeah.
Look how long the fucking toes are.
I think that’s where the x-ray comes from as these. Oh. It’s the same ai, this McDowell guy.
Oh, the same guy keeps finding them?
Yeah. It’s the same people.
They found about 8, I think, is what they’re saying here. And then McDowell’s father is saying they’re a hard having a hard time getting them to the US to do more studies.
Oh, yeah. Super hard. Cut the fucking shit. They’re already pissed off. Meh me call Elon. Disappearing. He’ll shoot a rocket over there. Speak those things up quick. Let me see the skull again. Have they done an x-ray of the skull? Why would they do that?
Sai had an x-ray on one of these.
Oh, the skull? Oh, Jesus Christ. Holy shit, dude.
Yeah. But whatever. Look at this. The eggs. What?
Imagine if you found out those are, like, anal toys, and they’re just freaks.
I do believe one of these they were saying was made up of different animal parts.
Come sit down and put a microphone on. Woah. Sai we’re looking at x rays of one of them is bullshit. Look look at the fucking x rays of the skulls, man. Like, you’re a doctor. Look at that. That looks like real shit. Right?
That looks like real. Yeah.
looks like real bones. Meh, yeah. Completely different. Yeah.
X-ray shows it, the cavalierum, the space for the brain.
What is that thing across his chest? What’s that thing?
Instead of the sternum, it’s their former sternum.
Yeah. I guess. Right? It’s like some
Sternum holes are two sides left and right together. Maybe he had surgery.
Yeah. Maybe he had surgery implant. Jesus. Yeah. Maybe that’s it’s, like, neural length.
So this is I thought I was, like, digging more. This is a slight this is from this year.
Look at that one. Look at that. Show that to doctor Gordon. Mhmm. Look at the same thing. Different finger the long fingers, long toes, same thing 3.
And real similar in the way they look.
Peru is so all these are coming out of Peru? They all came from the Same area.
That’s why when you disappeared, they said they’ve gotten close to 20000. Here. Well, do you disappear? Yeah.
I just went to the bathroom, Jamie. Yeah.
I have a loud feeling. I did disappear. I just had a pee. Come on. Just up ai of the skull.
that x-ray of the skulls, the skeletons, though, rather.
This is what I was seeing too. The videographer isn’t known. They don’t know who shot this video.
it says the videographer behind the new footage is unknown in no small measure due to the thorny legal and ethical dimensions of handling these allegedly historical and culturally priceless ancient remains. That makes sense. I don’t know exactly who shot the video, but there are context clues in the longer, version.
One source who had also given, also been granted the tape told dailymail.com. 1 they call them haqueros, who has long been involved in promotion the these NASCA mummies, was convicted of assault on public monuments for taking artifacts in 2022. So if you take these artifacts, they’d go after you.
The man received a 4 year suspended sentence, was fined about 20,000 Peruvian souls, just 5,190 US dollars according to Reuters. A clear example of the high risk extra legal measures some have taken to seek either truth or profit from these aliens. That makes sense. So it’s dangerous to pull them out. You can get in trouble.
So then Ai think that’s that why I was getting 22 was the, the journalist Yeah. Has a lawsuit.
He’s taking the Peruvian government to court, hoping to negotiate with Peru, as he put it, to be allowed to export the samples to be done in America. The lawsuit is already in for $300,000,000. Wow. Explained he’s pursuing monetary damages to repair his enterprise’s damaged reputation, but it tends to spend the cash on a museum for the mummies and hookers and a Ferrari.
I want a Ferrari. And doctor McDowell himself has also recently plead with the with Peru’s government in an open letter published in one of the country’s top newspapers asking for official permission to study these specimens at top flight scientific facilities in the US. Well, I like that. I like that at least he’s trying to get them, if it’s true, that he’s trying to get them studied.
But, you imagine if you were one doctor who did find these things, you would receive a tremendous amount of skepticism and assholes like meh, like, making fun of them. West Hollywood,
Interesting stuff, man. So when you look at that as a doctor, does that look like horse shit to you, or does it look real?
No. It looks real. I mean, the x rays that you were showing. You know, the fact that they came from, NASCA Mhmm. With all those lines that I know about In Machu Picchu. In Machu Picchu.
Which is a really amazing place that they Yeah.
don’t really understand how they built it.
Correct. Allison went there Oh. To Machu Picchu. Yeah. So she was chewing on, she was chewing on Cocoa leaves? Coca leaves Yeah. Into candy and so forth. But I gave her cocoa leaves there. I gave her Diamox so that she can activate oxygen. Diamox is the tablet you take to boost your Cortisolx
mushroom’s good for that too.
There’s a lot of things good for me. This is a pharmaceutical pill. But, you know, in my mind, knowing that it’s NASCA lines and the association of possible aliens and then finding these, you know, these corpses coming from, NASCA, you know, you put 1 and 1 together, and it it makes sense that Sorta.
It also makes sense that if ai gonna hoax things, that’s where you would hoax them.
Correct. I got it. And that’s skepticism that you have for
it. Well, I’m just being rational. I’m not being skeptical. I’m honestly not skeptical. I’m kinda open minded.
Sai you don’t believe that it’s real?
I don’t know if it’s real. Oh, yeah. I like to think it’s real, but that’s the problem is that I really want
So what do you do? You say it’s not real, but it looks real?
I don’t say nothing. Okay. I just talk shit. Yeah.
That’s what got you here.
we do. We’re just talking shit.
I’m not an expert in biology. I don’t I mean, the skeleton looks real to meh, but what do I know? If I was gonna make a fake skeleton, could I do that with a bunch of, like, discarded bones? Maybe. What what I’m skeptical about is the way the joints, they extend
Well, not just the fingers. Yeah. But they look like ours. Right? Like, the same way if you go back to that, skeleton again, please?
If you look at it, in the x-ray, what you see is the bones, they’re formed that are that are very similar to the way ours are formed.
Where at the end of it, not not the one of the actual skeleton, Jamie. Yeah. Sai, like, look at how the bones are at the top and then the and where the joint is, that looks like how our bones are. Like, this the hinge in the joint of the elbow looks exactly like how a human’s is, except it’s one bone instead of 2, which is, let’s be honest, probably a better design.
You know, the 2 bones, that
little I broke the little
Yeah. I broke the fibula too.
Yeah. The small one on the leg. And,
No. Kickboxing. Kickboxing. Not even checking and kick. I just we were kicking at the same ai, and
he hit my shin. It looks suggestive, okay, of it being something that might be real.
It definitely looks suggestive of something that might be real and very unique. Right? Very different than our anatomy.
And it’s our prejudice that says that, oh, we’re the only people here. Well, I don’t think that. What do you think?
I don’t know. Yeah. I don’t I think there’s I think the possibility that something could be so advanced that all of our ideas of how it got here and how long it’s been here are just silly. I think we might be just like these people in the Amazon that my friend Paul Rosales running into.
They don’t know that he goes on the Joe Rogan experience and reaches 15,000,000 people. They don’t have any idea. They have no idea. So what they what do they see? They see some guy with clothes on, like, what’s this asshole doing?
And, you know, he’s out there in the Amazon and, you know, and then he takes a picture and this is their experience with him is probably ai of similar to our experience, but except, like, much more exaggerated with aliens. Like, if you came into contact with something that’s a 1000000 years more advanced than us, like, what would that contact be like?
Would it what I mean, are we so limited in our understanding of how you move through the universe that we assume that everything has to use rockets and everything has to burn fuel and shoot things and to defy gravity by, you know, by pushing against it. Maybe not. Maybe there’s much more advanced propulsion systems that exist.
Yeah. They’re dissecting it.
They’re dissecting it. Woah. What is that? What the fuck, man? Woah.
Yeah. The dissection What does
That looks like weird bones in a hand. That’s creepy. That’s so look at their skin. I mean, obviously, mummified, but how fucking weird. How weird. Look at the bones underneath it. That’s crazy. That is so crazy.
And you’re gonna tell me someone put this together as a joke.
Well, I don’t know. I mean, I’m looking at this. I don’t know I don’t know who’s a part of this, but when he peels that back and you see those bones again, that is fucking nuts.
That’s so wild. But also, why are those bones so clear for a mummified thing? Those bones look in my mind, they don’t look mummified. They look like more recent.
But what do I know? It almost looks wet. Go back to that image.
Ai the other thing was shiny too.
Right. So is that because they put something on it, or is that what happens when you cut that thing open?
I’ll try to find sai longer video and see if
we can figure out how they do it. Then putting, like, distilled water on it during the process of, dissecting it. Yeah. To dissect it.
Maybe they’re trying to clean off the bones, and they did something to it to brush it and
You know, how old that is. How old did they say that that was?
Did they carbon date it? Or They’re all they’re just the carbon date is to ai out whether or not if it’s that old, then it should be petrified, and therefore, it shouldn’t look like that.
Right. Right. Like, if it’s a 1000000 years old.
If it’s a 1000000 years old. But if
then it’s really weird. So the way that the bullet should look
Yeah. It’s weird as shit. Yeah. But the thing is, like, there’s so many people that essentially make a living off of lying. They they make a living off of bullshitting. Yeah. You know? Yeah. There’s a lot of that going on.
Yeah. So religiously, I mean, look at ram a religious standpoint, what’s the impact of acknowledging that there are other species in extraterrestrials? What’s the impact on religion here in the United States or here in the world?
Depends on which religion you’re talking about.
I think the Vatican has been pretty open to the idea that we’re not alone and that God could possibly have created other life forms. Sai, that’s true. Ai pretty sure that’s true. I think the Vatican gave a statement within the last decade or so about this. Yeah. But they probably know some shit.
Right? Yeah. They probably have it. They, you know a lot of our gonna You’ve seen some of the Russians. Meh. You’ve seen some of the Russian studies that I mean, where they had aliens who crashed in a in a flying saucer and they abused the ash the aliens.
Vatican astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption. Oh. That’s cool. Jesus gave them a fucking new home pass.
Blessed be those who come from other planets.
They may be a different life form that does not need Christ’s redemption, the Vatsal Vatican chief astronomer said. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean, if they come from somewhere else. Difficult to exclude the possibility that other intelligent life exists in the university noted that one field of astronomy is now actively seeking biomarkers and spectrum analysis of other stars and planets.
That’s true. They definitely have done that. These potential forms of life could include those that have no need of oxygen or ai or or hydrogen, he said. Just as God created multiple forms of life on Earth, he said, there may be diverse forms throughout the universe. That makes sense. That’s an open minded religious person.
It’s not in contrast with faith because we cannot place limits on the creative freedom of God. That makes sense. Yeah. Well, if you’re gonna be logical and be a believer in God, that’s the way to do it. Right? To say, look, if God exists, we just might be too limited in our understanding of the world to think that we we think that God just made us, and this is it.
But it might be God has made life all throughout the universe. Yeah.
If you believe in God, you have to accept the fact that he’s on other planets. We’re not the exclusivity.
Maybe God is the universe.
Well, that’s what they’ve been saying. God is the universe.
The universe is God. Yeah. Which makes sense because the universe is a creative force. It makes things constantly. It’s constantly making stars. There’s stellar nurseries and planets and
So what’s your take on Bigfoot these days?
I think Bigfoot is mostly nonsense that is, sort of a historical memory. I think, for sure, we know that gantopithecus was a real animal that co coexisted with human beings.
And we know that it what’s the what’s the date of a Gigantopithecus? It’s somewhere it’s more than 100 of 1000 of years. Right? But it just makes sense that if human beings have been around for that long and that thing’s been around for that long, and then 200000 years ago.
2,000,000 to approximately 300,000 to 200000 years ago. So as recently as possibly 200000 years ago, but that’s essentially based on what they found. Now they’re constantly finding new things. Right? So, like, they didn’t even know Denisovans were a thing which arya a new type of, human.
ones? No. They’re not gigantic. They’re they’re just a different like, there was Neanderthal, homo sapiens Denisovan was another group branch of the the human bryden, and they didn’t discover them. I wanna say 2010, when they discovered Denisovans.
I think they discovered them in Russia, and they found them in Ai, and so they they know that there’s that. And then there was another species that they found recently that’s even more bryden. That’s large headed people that were they had larger heads than us that existed with us.
They had, like, big fucking Yeah. Eyebrows and big heads.
What about that, they’re, what, 17 feet tall, 16 feet tyler? What’s that? Ai humans that
they’re you know, I don’t know. What’s that?
Here’s the problem. Here’s the problem. You don’t know
what is real. When was Dennis Sai?
I When did they discover that?
Well, disc They were they lived this thing ai years ago, but Right. How tall would they differentiate? They were ai Neanderthal cells.
When did they discover Denisovan fossils?
I’m trying to figure out. They had it’s it’s one piece they found.
Right. But it was pretty recent. 2014? Yeah. Yeah.
You’re right. There’s a lot of shit that’s coming on the Internet. The last thing that I was reading not last, but one of the things that I read was they found bones of people that were ai
Yeah. Giant people. Giant people. Ai never seen any of it. I I wouldn’t dismiss it. Mhmm. You know, there’s giants in the Bible. There’s giants in historical record ai they talk about yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s completely possible that if you have pygmies and you have, you know know about the hobbit people
On the island of Flores? No. You didn’t know about that? No. Homo
call them homo flore Floresisis. And what these are is these little tiny ape like humanoids that lived alongside people. I think they’ve dated them to a 100000 years ago. Ai be earlier. At one point ai time, I think they thought it was 10000 years ago, but I think they pushed it back.
But these were, like another branch of the human tree, and they were really tiny. And they used tools, and they hunted, and they think that, you know, that they’re probably wiped out at least partially. Yeah. Homo floresiensis.
And that that’s what they looked ai. And they lived alongside us. So they think that might be a case of, island dwarfism as well. You know, like, there’s a thing that happens to mammals when they’re on islands where they get smaller and, on ai weirdly enough, reptiles get larger.
That’s why you have Komodo dragons.
Pretty cool. Right? So there’s homo sapien and there’s homo florist.
There’s, like, a bunch of different types of of humans that that existed, and we were the most clever and the most vicious. Ai. We we went,
Yeah. And the smartest. We’re the smartest.
We’re the ones shah are the most The calvarium, the size of the skull as it got bigger.
But the thing is these these ones that they found recently sai if you can find that article. The large headed people that they found recently, another totally new branch.
They’re large headed Larger height as Yeah.
Same ai? Same height as ours Yeah. But larger heads, probably much stronger. They’re ai, you know, Neanderthals far stronger than us. Yeah. Dubbed large headed people, enigmatic group once lived alongside Homo sapiens in Eastern Asia. According to Ai, fossilized remains unearthed from sediment layers dated about 2 hun over 200000 years ago revealed individuals with disproportionately large cranial volumes.
So speak click on that, like, where they
have images. 2024, just last month.
Real recent, they found this, or they they’ve come out with this. I think they had images of what they look like, what they think they look ai. If someone did like a detailed a large head of people, you get regular folks. These regular folks are unfortunately the big heads.
Yeah. Homo Juliassus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is another branch. Look at the size of that fucker.
Jacked. New humans. Yeah. Wild.
Big heads. Larger heads and bigger brains.
Bigger brains than us ai 200000 years ago. It’s funny because we have them, like, with, like, a stupid stone tool. Like, maybe they’re smart. Maybe we just fucking wiped them out. Look at the size of our heads though. Jesus Christ. Crazy. Look at that one there. He’s got a 6 pack.
The guy standing up. Look at the one down where he’s walking like Bigfoot. Click on that.
Yeah. Look at this. This guy’s jacked. Excuse.
Imagine running into that.
Yeah. Yeah. Imagine running to that dude?
Look at him sending it. Yeah. Yo. This is real. Yo.
Big photos are helping to get
It was awesome. Look at that. Make that bigger. That fucking
story. Bro, could you imagine
Walking through the jungle and running into these dudes ai a bunch of them?
Yeah. Look at it. Imagine.
Yeah. There is so much more to be found, you know.
Well, just in our own history. Right? The history of Earth. Yeah. The the different forms of life that don’t exist anymore. And it you know, there’s so much variety that it really does make you wonder, like, what are we seeing? We’re we’re seeing these alien bones that they’re x raying.
What are we seeing when, you know, people report that they’re experiencing contact with these entities? Are they from another dimension? Are they from another planet? Is everybody crazy? Is everybody just making things up? Yeah. I don’t know.
How do you account for all the people that had said that I’ve been taken? Yeah. It’s very compelling. I’ve been taken.
It’s very compelling, but here’s the question. Were they physically taken? Here’s the question. The realm of dreams is a gigantic mystery, and the realm of dreams is hyper realistic sometimes. I had a hyper realistic dream last night. I wish I could remember what it was, but it’s one of those things. It was crazy. But I I got up in the middle of the night.
It woke me up, and then I got up to pee, and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me? And then I went back to sleep. But while I was experiencing that dream, I remember being aware that it was a dream eventually, but while it was all going down, I was like, this is a crazy dream.
Like, thinking like this is so vivid and so realistic. So if you live in a dream for the rest of your life, you are still alive and you arya still experiencing things. You’re just experiencing things in a a non physical way, the way we interact with reality today. So you and I are interacting with reality with a couple glasses of whiskey, cigar. We have a wooden table. We’re talking into microphones.
But the reality that you interact with in dreams is it’s it’s not tangible. It’s existing. You’re experiencing it, but it’s in some other realm. It’s some realm of the mind and some realm of consciousness. And maybe what you’re doing is accessing a dimension of possibilities that is entirely created by consciousness.
And maybe there’s multiple layers to that and things can come from other places to us that way. It’s always been interesting to me that these people that have these abduction experiences. Mhmm. It seems like the vast majority. And I’ve read, abducted, which is John Mack’s book and, you know, I I I I’m aware of the, Betty and Barney Hill story, and this is, Travis Walton, the guy who got abducted in there.
So black and white couple? No. No. The Betty and Barney Hill are.
Actually, Angela Hill, who’s the granddaughter of them, is a UFC fighter.
Yeah. She she was on the podcast and didn’t tell me that until after the podcast was over. I’m
like, damn. Yeah. Where’s your grandfather? Conversations.
Yeah. Sai crazy. Her grandfather was Barney Hill. But so these people all have very compelling stories. Now the difference between Travis Walton’s story and the other stories is people saw Travis Walton go up to that UFO. Travis Walton disappeared for 5 days. Travis Walton came back from being in the woods for 5 days with this crazy story. And the other people, most of them, it happens at night. Right?
And so when you’re dreaming, like, who knows what the fuck is really happening? And if you’re lying in bed and you get abducted by aliens and they return you to your bed, like, what really happened? Is there a video of you disappearing? Or if we had, like, a a video in that room, would you have the same experience, but your physical body never goes anywhere?
Sai, like, what are you really experiencing? Yeah. That’s the question. And I’m not doubting that these people have something happened to them. But we do know that when people are dreaming, there’s an endogenous release of psychedelic chemicals.
There’s this crazy experience of dreams and of vivid dreams and lucid dreams or so what is that? And if that is something that can be trans traversed, is that is that something that someone can enter into? Is it possible that other intelligence that’s different than ours, that’s more advanced than ours, that lives in a different dimension than ours, has access to the mind in these in these exchanges?
Yeah. In the subconscious. Yeah.
And maybe even physically. I’m not even I’m not even dismissing physical contact, but I’m just saying that many of these cases where people claim to have been abducted happened at night. I don’t think that is a coincidence. I think that the the realm of consciousness is I think we’re very arrogant in our belief that we understand what’s going on
With how we interface with reality.
We we know we have things that we count on because they’re like, every time I come here, I’m pretty sure the same carpet is gonna be on this table. It’s gonna be the same. But I don’t think we’re really sure with how consciousness interacts with the world and how much of it is real.
I agree. In the subconscious, space, you know, the question is, is that when the extraterrestrials invades our space, our psychiatric speak, and therefore, in in gives to us in our brain the perception of everything that we perceive, meaning the, alien, the, maybe even Bigfoot.
everything. But maybe that’s what Bigfoot is.
Right? But in you think so?
thing unconscious? Maybe it’s something you’re experiencing that’s from somewhere else. Or it’s maybe it’s your consciousness interacting with reality in a completely alien environment that is guaranteed to give you a heightened sense of anxiety, the woods at night. Right? A lot of these people are experiencing these things in the woods at night.
Maybe there’s a a level of consciousness you reach under those circumstances where you interact with things that you ordinarily cannot interact with, and maybe that’s why there’s a lack of physical evidence in our dimension. Like, the physical evidence in our dimension is very limited. One thing that’s compelling and maybe the only thing that’s compelling is dermal ridges that they find on these footprints.
So they find these footprints in muck, like, whether it where they step in mud and muck and stuff, and they leave behind not just footprints, but footprints with dermal ridges like fingerprints, which is very difficult to fake, especially in ai the 19 seventies, the 19 eighties or some of these things were acquired.
Sai, it’s ai, I don’t know what we’re dealing with, but there’s enough people that talk about that experience and it makes you pause. I don’t believe, but I don’t disbelieve. And as far as Bigfoot being an actual large ape that lives undisturbed in the Pacific Northwest, I’m very skeptical because there’s too many hunters now.
Too many people with cameras and too many camera traps. There’s too many cell phone cameras, you know, where they they, trail cameras snap things that are going ai. Wildlife biologists use them. Right. We know of, like, a couple jaguars that exist in the United States.
And the reason why we know about them is because of trail cameras. Sai the fact that there’s 0 trail camera footage that’s
Yeah. It doesn’t the Bigfoot thing is ai maybe. But maybe you’re inter maybe you’re interacting with something that’s not physical. It might be something that’s interdimensional or something that you you might be looking at the past. You might be interacting with whatever experience this thing has had many, many, many, many years ago. It’s ai left echoes.
It might be echoes in space and echoes in ai. And that under certain states, you can briefly access these echoes, briefly access the the these things that that may have existed or might exist in other dimensions. I’m not ruling it out. Yeah. I wouldn’t bet the house on it. Wow. I wouldn’t bet the house on it.
Yeah. Vatsal sounds like I
do think there’s a lot of bullshit artists ai, though. I’ve talked to a lot of big
people that are bullshit artists. Yeah. The the balance that obviously you’re talking about is the fact that there are so many people who are trying to present the factual evidence that it exists that causes you to doubt it. So, you know, I believe that there’s a possibility of all the things that we talked about from Bigfoot to aliens and so forth.
But there’s a tempered, perception of it as being reality
That it might be there, but we would rather deny it as opposed to accept it because what happens if you accept it as a 100% truth? What is the mindset done?
Accept it as a 100% truth unless you have a 100% evidence. Yeah.
You wanna have that. Yeah.
You wanna have physical evidence, but we don’t have it. So You
You know who really believes in Bigfoot? No. Jane Goodall.
Oh, okay. Which is a gorilla lady. Yeah.
Did you ever hear to talk about it?
No. Why does she believe in it?
She believes from all the eyewitness sightings and the possibility and, you know, her time living with primates. Right. See if you can find Jane Goodall talking about it. Because when she talks about it, she talks about it with great enthusiasm. It’s really interesting.
Enthusiasm with facts facts to back it up or just the large number of people who have stated that they’ve seen it or experienced it or
I don’t know. Yeah. One thing, though, is, like, when she was saying this was quite a while ago, like, more than a decade or 2 ago. And I think that, you know, over time, when there’s still no evidence, people get more and more skeptical. I’ve talked to a bunch of people that have had Bigfoot experiences. I don’t necessarily believe any of them.
I don’t disbelieve them, but I’m just like, there’s not one I’ve talked to UFO abduction people,
I believe them. I believe them.
Yeah. I believe Travis Walton. I talked to that guy. He does not seem like a bullshit arya, and he hasn’t changed his story in, like, fucking 30 years.
He talks to me about. I I would I’m romantic. I would like Bigfoot to exist. I’ve met people who swear they’ve seen Bigfoot. And I think the interesting thing is every single continent, there is an equivalent of Bigfoot or Sasquatch. There’s the Yeti, there’s the Yari in Australia, there’s the Chinese wild man, and and on and on and on.
And, you know, I’ve had stories from people who you have to believe them. So there’s something. I don’t know what it is. I’m always open minded.
Supposedly mythologicalized I guess I should sai, like the Lochness monster.
Ai. Alien beings. What you’re saying about?
I don’t. I think that it it doesn’t make sense to think we’re the only intelligent form of life. This wall that was built between us, we’re we’re just the only really intelligent capable of this, that, and the other. Difference in kind between us and the other animals, that wall is broken down and the chimps help to break it down.
Do you The chimps helped to break it down.
Well, her experience with chimps, you know, she’s been embedded with chimps.
I ai I I definitely don’t not believe like I said, don’t disbelieve. It’s not like I sai aliens aren’t real. UFOs aren’t real. It’s all lies. All the people are lying. I don’t think that at all. I think the the I think reality is weird. I think it’s weirder than our senses are capable of detecting. That’s what I think.
Absolutely. I tend to be more on the side that they exist until you prove that they don’t exist.
You know what’s really weird is underwater aliens. Underwater extraterrestrials or underwater
Yeah. I don’t know about cities. Are cities under there?
Yeah. Cities where they have their spaceships What? At the, trenches in the trenches. Yeah.
I don’t never seen any data.
There’s video of things moving underwater at very high rates of speed. In fact, some of the whistle blowers and again, how much that’s real? But some of the whistle whistle blowers from the government have claimed that they have detected things underwater that are enormous, like the size of a football field, and they’re moving 500 knots underwater with, which no visible means of propulsion.
They’re they think that this is where they hide in plain sight.
So those videos that have come out recently of the, Navy aviators who have, chased
UFOs that have gone Yep. Into the water, and they’ve seen these large reflections under the water of huge, spaceships and so forth.
I haven’t heard Ai haven’t heard any of, like I’ve I’ve heard there was the commander David Fravor, the Tic Tac event where there was this thing that was, like, 20
It looked like a Tic Tac.
And they think there was something under it in the water. There was a disturbance that looked like, you know, like like an underwater submarine that’s emerging or reaching the top of the surface. And then when they were flying near it, it went down. And then there’s been other people, other pilots that have actually seen large physical crafts in the water.
But, again, I have never seen any photos that’s that are compelling.
So the chasing of that UAP that’s found
yeah. Yeah. Is that real, or is that That wasn’t fake.
Chased the the the what they call those, you know, the what do they call them? Extra medium and intermedium, transmedium. They call them transmedium ram, which means they can fly in the air and they can fly through the
They they have seen things dunk into the water. They have video of 1, but it’s very grainy. It’s very grainy night vision, thermal vision of this thing dunking into the water, and then they don’t know what happened. Then it came out of the water. It was it was flying around again. They don’t know what the fuck that is. Yeah. They they’re just guessing.
And looking at the physics of it, the fact that it was able to do a ai degree
And then down into the water and then coming up. How do you count for that?
You don’t. Yeah. Okay. The really crazy one is the Tic Tac. Because the Tic Tac, they have a a bunch of different types of data. They have, first of all, the pilots who saw it. They have the video of from the ai cabins. They have, this radar footage that tracked this thing going from above 50,000 miles to 50 feet in, like, one second. Right.
They don’t know how the fuck anything can do that. Yeah. And then it takes off when they video it, this thing taking off from their their vatsal, from their, recording their screens. It takes off at such an insane rate of speed. They said anything biological would just be turned to jelly instantly.
The g ai. It’s insane. It’s just insane rates of speak. And no no visible means of propulsion. It does it from a completely stationary perspective, and then Boom. Gone. Takes off.
Yeah. Yeah. They’ve talked about, meh, the fact that those ai flying objects, they go into a different dementia
And dementia as well, You know, it’s
a different dementia too.
Dementia. Yeah. Dementia. But they’re in the state of dementia.
Yeah. This is the one that goes in
how grainy this is. It’s ai, what am I looking at?
So the fact that it’s grainy
means what? Well, they’re just looking at it from a a long distance with, aircraft. Yeah. You know So optics. So These are these are weapon optics. Right?
So graininess means it’s less costly. Yeah.
Well, it’s dark out, and this is how they’re seeing this thing. And then it just goes into the water. And then if you hear it, you hear the recording hear the recording, Jamie.
Listen to them freak out when it
Yeah. They’re they’re freaky
splashed. Mark bearing a rain.
Yeah. So the thing went into the water Yes. And then also went out of the water.
Yeah. But the thing is, how many of these things are ours? Not 0. How many of these things like, do have you ever seen that underwater drone that the United States has developed?
okay. Cool. It looks like a UFO. Looks like a UFO that flies underwater. It goes underwater. It’s not I don’t think it goes above the water. I think it only goes underwater, but it looks like a spaceship.
Meh. But with the rate of acceleration and the ability to change direction
You know, those are things that are in the reality in the real world. You know, the physics behind it, as you said, everyone, if it went in that rate of ascent or descent and movement, it would kill everybody inside.
Yeah. But then the question is, like, what is it doing? Is it actually experiencing g force at all? Because if it’s some sort of a gravity propulsion device, it might be experiencing no g force.
And it might be just pushing space out of the way as it moves forward. We don’t understand. Yeah. That’s ai
Do we have that technology?
It’s a good question. Yeah. It’s a good question.
If we have that technology, then it explains it all. But the question is, as long as we don’t acknowledge the fact that we’re at that level of technology, then you have to account for where’s it coming ram.
Right. There’s definitely a lot of questions. I mean, I definitely don’t claim to have any answers. Yeah. What is this one?
Oh, yeah. Look at this sucker.
This is the one that goes This
is a drone that we developed. It’s like a manta ray drone.
Yeah. It’s pretty cool looking. Up.
Well, it’s also mini. It’s pretty big. Is it? But look at it. It looks like a fucking UFO that goes under the water, and it flies through the water. And, also, like, what what are we looking for? Are we looking for foreign subs, or are we looking for aliens?
I wonder. Yeah. I wonder. I wonder. Wow. That’s imagine if they knew some stuff was under the ocean. They don’t wanna tell anybody because they don’t wanna freak people out.
Duh. Yeah. Duh. Yeah. I’ve seen articles where it talks about cities, communities underneath the ocean in the San Andre not San Andreas Fault. What is that fault line called? Not the fault. The
No. No. No. The deepest, trenches. The Mariana trench.
Yeah. Are there cities down there? What are where what ai are you reading?
I think I know what it’s algorithms.
You know what I’m talking about? You’re not losing know you see psilocybin or or Ibogaine or Ayahuasca. Just normal. Sai Just normal. I haven’t
heard anything about cities in the Mariana trench. Jamie, have you heard anything about cities?
Look it up. What I know where
I know that. I haven’t smoked anything or taken any pills.
You’ve been drinking whiskey since
Quite a bit of that whiskey, sir. Nah.
Yeah. I don’t know if it totally helps. You sound a little hammered. You think? Yeah. Give me another one of glutathione.
You need another one? Okay. How many
you got? Yeah. How many did you take while
you I took 2. I took one early this morning and then just took another one because Ai figured we’d finish the bottle.
Jesus. You with the finishing the bottle. Absolutely. You’re gonna die from that.
No. This really helped your level out. Nick who’s sitting ai, he and I sit down and we’ll drink a bottle Yeah. You know, over a period about 4 hours.
You might wanna go to a AA meeting.
What is the, Mariana Trench Cities all about?
No. It’s it’s not the Mariana. It’s one of the trenches that are out there in the world.
You’re gonna go right to Reddit.
We’ve been on this on this discussion about, bears and, Meh Trench and UFOs and abductions and and so forth. Fun stuff. Yeah. It’s, you know, it reminds me of 4:38 where we were talking about every fuck day. I mean, you blew me out of the water with that. I’ll tell you the truth. We were there for 3 and a half hours on the first one.
And when I left the suit, because I thought it was in Woodland Hills. Right. I thought it was only supposed to be, like, 30 minutes or so.
Yeah. But I left, and I sat in my car for an hour to recuperate for that first visit with you. It was just way beyond that. Yeah.
Yeah. If there really are things that are monitoring us and checking us out, it makes sense. Yeah. If they if life exists and it’s more advanced than us somewhere else, whether it’s in another dimension or it’s on another planet, it completely makes sense to me that they would visit us.
Yeah. They ai see how fucked up we are in terms of nuclear weapons. How Sure.
And if we’re on a path, a predictable path of evolution that almost all intelligent life goes on, there’s probably gonna be pitfalls that they could help us navigate.
I would think so. I would hope so.
Right. Like if Jane Goodall studying the chimps. Like, let’s imagine they’re still studying the chimps 500 years from now, a 1000 years from now
A 100000 years from now. Let’s imagine civilization still exist, chimps still exist, we’ve protected it, we’ve done a smart thing, and they still what if they start making tools? What if they start making weapons? What if they eventually start going to war with each other? What if one chimp figures out gunpowder?
Look, if their brains keep growing like ours allegedly did. Sounds like us.
Yeah. Ai. Like, so imagine
imagine if we are we’re observing emerging intelligence in other primates other than us. How would we handle it? Yeah. Like, how would we handle it if all of a sudden chimpanzees, not all of a sudden, but 100 of 1000 of years ram, what what would our future society do if in the future, chimpanzees start developing weapons and buildings and planes and and doing all the shit that we do when we’re far more advanced than that then?
Is that planet of the apes?
Well, it’s not because, like, you would think that they would become a different thing. You know, they would become ai we did. Right? Like, we used to be australiopithecus. We used to be all these different hominids with they eventually become, like, more hairless, they start wearing clothes.
It’ll be fucking real interesting to see how human beings would handle that. You know, like, what would we do a 1000000 years from now if hominids kept advancing down an evolutionary plane
And they eventually got to a place where they were ai ancient humans. How would we do? I mean, if we were, like, super advanced, like, oh, you guys can’t go to war. Don’t war. We stopped war a while ago. Wait. You guys need brain chips.
Brain chips stop the war. Control.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.
Well, I mean, it is interesting because, like, what’s different between us and any other, people that have ever lived is that we’ve figured out a way to optimize your health in a very substantial way. In the past, someone who was my age I’m 57. Someone who’s my ai, your body is probably broken. You know? Your body is probably, like, beaten down.
Your hormones are dead, you know. You’re probably, like, real tired all the time, you know. And I’m not, you know. And because of vitamins and hormones and all the different things that I do to keep my body healthy and exercise and we’re living in a different tyler. And because of that, you stay vital. You have vitality a lot much longer than anyone ever did before.
So you can explore things and and and you have more curiosity and energy for thought more than anybody ever has before.
Yeah. You do sai Pierre? Nope. Good. I was watching the other one. He does it? Jamie really does.
Jamie practices every night with different dates.
does. Yeah. I can imagine. Now, one of the greatest fallacies is that as we age, we don’t need to do anything to reinvigorate our body. Right. Supplements are very important. Hormones are key. Exercise. Exercise ai important because of, as I said about the brain derived neurotrophic factor, you can increase it to improve brain.
This guy out of the USC, Caleb Finch Finch, Kellen Finch, who talked about he believed that the reason for why we age and we die is because we lose our hormones in our brain. And therefore, extremely important or is, the Scotch? Yeah. There it is.
That’s what you need, more of that.
No. Ai need to clear your throat. Yeah. Look at that. I got my voice back. Yeah. So in as you said, you’re 57 years of age. I’m 72 years of age, and I think the reason why I’m at 72 with the level of clarity and functionality ai from my back is the fact that I’ve always 30 years I’ve been a hormone replacement nutraceuticals, getting in good ai, so forth.
Because our body loses it over the course of ai, and you need to keep replacing. And the people who are listening to this have to might understand that, you need to supplement. You need to be proactive on your quality of health. Otherwise, you start losing it.
And exercise not just for that, but also just to maintain your physical presence, ai strength, your bone density.
You know, at at my age, people say I still have my pecs. I still have my, you know, trimming this and fitness. Sai don’t know about the general energy.
Do you still do martial arts anymore?
No. I stopped doing the martial arts. What I do in place of martial arts is I dig holes
and Yeah. We talked about that before.
And put plants in. Garden. There’s hardware. Holes.
Digging holes is hard work.
Yeah. I remember one time you sent me a email. It sai, so be careful because I was using a big pike to to cut holes in the in the crown. But I end up with, lemons and I make limoncello, pomegranates make pomegranates, ai, and so forth.
Yeah. And I I sent you some ai. Did you ever get the kamkots? I said yeah. Did you eat them?
Okay. Yeah. High in vitamin c sai lot.
Are really good for you. Awesome. Like, much more high in vitamin c apparently than Correct. Even, oranges.
Oranges. Right. Every morning, I have 3 of them.
3 of them, and it’s great.
Do you take liposomal vitamin c as well?
I take liposomal I take liposomal vitamin c.
C. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I take that stuff too.
That’s such a great thing too if you’re sick is, high dose intravenous vitamin c. It’s a a big one.
IV. Yeah. IVs. Let’s do it.
Ai had a a skeptical friend of mine who dismisses all kinds of quackery. He was real sick with the flu. He couldn’t get over it for weeks. And Ai I told him, listen, man. I’m gonna hook you up. Do this. Get IV zinc and vitamin c and high dose vitamin c and b 12, and he was better immediately. He said 24 hours ai, he couldn’t kick this fucking flu.
He sai, I had it for 2 weeks.
Yeah. In 23 years, I’ve been sick 16 days.
That’s that’s it. I never got well, let me be honest. I got COVID for 130 minutes. 130 minutes? 130 minutes. Tested twice positive for COVID. That was a Wednesday. Let’s see. It was a Ai. I think we’re having Yom Kippur. No. We were having, Pesach, Passover. And I got sick that night, and, 24 hours later, no symptoms.
Nothing. Quercetin, zinc, a little ivermectin, you know. That’s crazy.
You shouldn’t talk about that publicly. No. I should not. Yeah.
Ivermectin. Horrible shits. Well Maybe
Oh, good. Now, you know, fucking people are
taking it. Yeah. I I think I sent you the ivermectin paper with ivermectin and fembendazole. Mhmm.
a 76 year old veteran who was diagnosed with a Gleason 7. You know, Gleason is a grade of cancer, the prostate, and it was a Gleason 7. He went on 12 milligrams of ivermectin every day for 8 weeks. And at 12 weeks, he got a PET scan done, a special PET scan done, looking at, abnormalities in the prostate. They couldn’t find anything.
And his PSA, prosthetic specific antigen, when he came when his initial one with the cancer was 12 point 6. He’s now at 5.3.
I don’t know. What does this cell phone sound like? Sounds like that. It does.
What do you think about all the people that are very yeah. You had a Samsung phone. It’s definitely yours.
that a Google phone or Samsung phone? Google. Google. You like that?
Let me shut yeah. I’d like it. They keep on trying to get me out of the the first bryden, 1st generation into the 7th until it dies. Oh, yeah? I use it. Yeah.
Yeah. I don’t like the software they put in there.
Google just gave me the new Pixel 9 9. XL Pro.
sick. And then they gave me ai Pixel Fold as ai a gift when I went to the inauguration thing. Yeah. Yeah. It’s pretty sick.
Oh, you were there? That’s the Yeah.
I wouldn’t the Fold seems crazy. I’m addicted enough to watch YouTube videos on a regular phone.
need a fucking tablet. I take have you seen what Huawei’s made? Oh. Huawei, they’re banned in America
awesome and also they spy on you. But Huawei has developed a threefold And apparently, Samsung is gonna come out with 1 next year.
It’s a 3 fold though. It literally comes out to, like, a 10 inch tablet. It’s and it’s very thin. Wow. Look at this.
Yeah. That’s the Huawei 3 fold. Yeah. And super thin, amazing cameras. They they were so advanced. I was trying to get a Porsche Design Huawei phone. They they were working with you know, Porsche Design makes a bunch things. They make, like, watches and sunglasses. They don’t just make cars.
Like, Porsche Design is ai a separate entity of Porsche. And Porsche Design work with Huawei to meh, like, the ultimate cell phone. And I was ready to buy it because I’m a dork. You know, I’m really into technology.
And, I was like, oh, that thing’s crazy. Let me get it. And then Ai think Sai had a 100 megapixel phone camera on the phone, and this is a while ago, and a 500 milligram ai milliamp battery, which is also crazy. But then they banned Huawei products in America. Sai you can’t get that trifold.
Backdoor right to the CCP.
Yeah. Allegedly, but isn’t isn’t TikTok too? Like, isn’t all these things? There are there’s a lot of backdoors. A lot of data getting scooped up.
Yeah. My cybersecurity people keep on telling me don’t use, Zoom because it backdoors into the CCP.
So I haven’t used it. So I use Ai. What the fuck? Microsoft.
Yeah. I don’t trust anybody anymore.
No. I’m scared. I’m there with you.
Yeah. Scared of all of it.
think it’s all inevitable, and I think, I think if you look at the the what’s going on, like, in terms of, like, what’s what’s the direction that technological progress moves us into? Well, it’s a direction, it seems, of more and more connectivity, which means less and less privacy.
So we’re gonna have to work that out because when quantum computers can crack all in encoding, it’s ai, any encryption that exists, quantum computing is gonna crack all that. So you’re not gonna have real encryption anymore. So, like, what happens with Bitcoin and digital currency? What happens with all that stuff? What happens with your bank account?
Like, I don’t know. Yeah. We’re we’re weird times.
Weird times. What is the thing that scared me was in the Ai Fi, they now could go back and using Ai, use the transmitted wave form to see who’s in a room. Yeah. You saw that? Yeah.
Yeah. Accurate three d representations of the people moving around. Yeah.
So I turned off all my Wi Fi extenders. It’s also crazy. A month. Yeah.
It’s just ai we’re we’re living in an ultra surveilled world, and I think the good news is that the new government is Yes. Emphasizing privacy and freedom of speak. And the other government was emphasizing cracking down on what they called misinformation and disinformation and more control of what you say and do and where you go.
And the way to get more control is more invasive technology, and that’s what scares the shit out of me. Yeah. Because it it’s people. It’s not necessarily the technology. It’s people taking advantage of the technology in order to have more control of the population, which makes their job easier.
Yeah. That’s the reason why I only use my cell phone when I travel. Otherwise, I don’t use it. People call me and say, who are you? Sai ai do you use my cell phone?
Yeah. It’s off all the time.
My, friend Adam Curry, he has he’s super paranoid. Maybe maybe not. Maybe not paranoid, maybe super aware of, like, digital surveillance and all that stuff. So he has a d googled phone. He has a phone that doesn’t have Google on it, and it’s, what are those, what’s that operating system that they use for that stuff? Do you meh, Jamie?
Yeah. Doesn’t your friend Musk have a phone that’s coming up?
No. No. I just asked him the other day.
We were talking the other day at the inauguration. I was saying, dude, every other day, I get an article about a Tesla phone. He was laughing. I hope we don’t have to make a phone. That’s what he said.
we don’t have to make a phone. He was
But whoever’s promoting it
That’s it. Graphene OS. So Graphene is de Googled phones. So they take these pixels and they de Google them and they put this Graphene OS, which is a completely different, operating system. Yeah. And then you have another phone called the the unplugged phone that, Pixel 7. Yeah. Yeah. That’s it. And so they they use these things and Yeah.
They work just like a regular phone. And you can get them where they don’t have 5 g because some people think 5 ai is bad for you.
No. I still work off of 3 and 4, and I don’t update software because updating the software gives them more access to you. Dun dun dun. I gotta go again.
Well, let’s just wrap it up. We’re at 4 o’clock.
love you to death. You’re an awesome guy. I appreciate you very much. It’s always good to see you. Thank you for all your research and all the work you do and spreading information and knowledge. Yeah. I really appreciate it.
I Ai appreciate the fact that you’ve supported me over all these years in the work that we do with our veterans, and they’ve been receiving the benefits of the work that we’ve done. And, you know, stopping the suicide is the goal for the Millennium Health Centers. That’s that’s it.
Yeah. And tell everybody the website so they could find
The educational one is, www t
b I help now. W w w dot Ai
the the ai help now. Tbihelpnow.org. Dotorg.
then is Warrior Angel Foundation still?
Warrior Angel Foundation’s there, but they’ve melded into, yeah. This is, improve
brain health by fixing the root causes.
Yeah. This is Biohack Yourself, and I’ll give a minute on it. A family called Laligroup, and if you were in Washington for the for the inauguration, The Biohack Group, which is the Lolli Group, which is, Anthony and Theresa, Lolli, they’re the ones who put together Biohack Yourself, which has been picked up ai, Robert f Kennedy junior as being their representative for media because they’re he trusts them because all they wanna do is get the science out there that’s real, not the bullshit that’s been thrown at us.
So they’ve been pulled in, and there were 32 of us, quote, experts is what they call us, who participated in this program. So what they’re doing is really cool because it’s presenting the the science behind what you’ve already experienced with us and what I continue to promote for brain health, for well-being, and longevity, anti aging.
Alright. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.