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Bert Sorin is the president and co-founder of Sorin Exercise Equipment, as well as an athlete, hunter, and advocate for the health and wellness of veterans.
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#2242 – Bert Sorin Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan and his guest engage in a wide-ranging discussion that touches on the nature of podcasting, the value of in-depth conversations, and the impact of having influential guests. Joe reflects on his journey in podcasting, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the spirit of doing what he enjoys, such as having long, uninterrupted conversations with interesting people, including scientists. He notes the challenge of building relationships with such guests and the logistical hurdles involved.
The guest, a strength and conditioning professional, highlights the wealth of cutting-edge information available through podcasts, often surpassing traditional sources. They discuss the benefits of listening to podcasts at different speeds and the unique insights gained from various guests, including a memorable episode with Mike Ben.
A recurring theme is the importance of open, respectful dialogue, even when disagreements arise. Joe criticizes the tendency to dismiss others’ opinions too quickly, advocating instead for conversations that are more about understanding than winning arguments. The guest agrees, noting that candid, curious, and respectful discussions can often lead to mutual understanding.
The episode also touches on Joe’s influence and the impact of his podcast, with the guest acknowledging the significant reach and effect Joe has had on the world. They discuss the idea of being a “rabbit hole guy” versus a “90% guy,” exploring the concept of personal boundaries and how far one is willing to go in various pursuits.
Overall, the episode underscores the value of genuine conversation, the pursuit of knowledge, and the importance of staying true to one’s passions.
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#2242 – Bert Sorin Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Ai my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Good to see you, Charlie. What’s going on, man?
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Good to see you, man.
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Thank you very much for that, extraordinary piece of, athletic equipment you brought to the gym. Absolutely. Is there a photo of that sai we could show people what it looks like?
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Yeah. It should be on the website, X Speak.
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And what is it called?
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It’s called the X Factor.
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Oh, it’s called the X. Ai, what is the website?
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Sorenex.com.
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Go to sorenex.com. Check out the X Factor.
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Sai I meh to actually pull it up, Jamie. Pull it up, Jamie.
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Isn’t that nice to say that?
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Shush, man. I’m ai you. It’s, it’s big.
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So this is the machine.
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Yeah. It’s actually Judd who was here a minute ago.
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Yeah. It’s a a brilliant machine, man. The idea that you could push and pull rotational rotational power machine. It really is a a genius idea, man. And, for things like striking sports, that’s huge. Like, the ability to push and pull at the same time while stabilizing your core, I mean, that is undoubtedly gonna help people, ai, it’s you’re definitely gonna be able to deliver more power and strikes.
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Right. Because you you take the ground force
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Mhmm.
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And then be able to put it through, obviously, with the core excess Yeah. All three planes of motion, all we’ve obviously go through your core and then puts it into your either your feet or your, your arms.
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It’s just so unusual that you can do something like that. I mean, I guess you ai can do something like that with cables with the cable machine, but that seems better.
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Yeah. Because you have a little bit of a balance component as well, but but you’re right like you’re blocking. Let’s sai, your right hand you’re blocking on that left meh. Mhmm.
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You’re
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stabilizing out the right hamstring and hip. But yeah. Especially when you get that little extra extension, I call it the riblets right there, your obliques. It just locks everything in. So I’m interested to see what you come up with.
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It’s pretty dope. And you were telling me that this was originally, ai, you you came up with this idea from an older machine that’s not allowed
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to go on? Yeah. Sai we’ve we’ve you know, I’ve been in this industry a long time and as well as you have, but it’s kinda taken a remastered series where we’re taking all, like, the cool stuff that was could have been our designs, but it could have been just old designs or just, like, kinda lost to the ages.
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Uh-huh. And they’re like, hey. That was a cool piece, but it sucked because you had to load it weird or it was, like, maybe wasn’t as safe as it could have been. And so it’s ai, let’s let’s break the whole thing apart, figure out what was good about it. And then that was ai the 8th iteration.
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We just kept playing with it. And there was ai, when you realize the double axis is what made the user experience cool. Mhmm. Then it was like, okay. This is badass. And, you know, I sent that video to you and and then, couple of colleges have already bought them.
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And then, Ryan Krauser, the world champion and record holder in the shah put was ai, yeah. Like, this is all rotational power. How do we turn that on?
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Yeah. It’s it’s so cool today because there’s so much social media and there’s so much so many videos and YouTube videos of people using equipment. Like, 15, 20 years ago, you had to go to a gym and go, oh, what is that? Oh, that’s cool. Where’d you get that? How’s that work?
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The big guy in the gym had to, like, hey. What’s the deal? Yeah. I mean, you and I grew up in the same era where we’re going to gyms all the time and Mhmm. There’s a bunch of quacks telling you to do stuff.
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Always. Yeah. And then you bro ai.
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Vatsal bro scientist. Yeah. And then and then you just ai, hey. If that guy’s really good at something, you know? Yeah. Back in the day, I would after I compete, probably much like you, after I compete, I would get whoever was better than meh, and I would offer to take him out to dinner.
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And I would just go, hey. Like, I’d feed him beers until they basically told me how they beat me. Ai like, well, how much are you cleaning or what are you doing? Then I would pick up some little idiosyncrasy of training, and they’re like, oh, we would do this contrast. And I’m like, what’s that?
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And I would just keep digging and digging and digging. I’d go back and figure it out. Well,
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I remember when I was competing, they would tell you to not lift weights, which is so hilarious. You don’t get much about
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it, Joe.
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They used to say that. They used to say it will slow you down. Sure. You’ll become tight.
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Yeah.
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And I remember thinking, like, why don’t you just stretch if you’re tight?
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Yeah. So what is happening? Makes the car slower?
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It didn’t make any sense to me. It’s like they thought that the only ai you should do is martial arts itself. Just hit the bag. Right. You know, train. Now when do you when do you think
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that well, you got, you know, Bruce Lee would do I mean, he did some ai.
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Did he do some isometrics? Yeah. Yeah. And he
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had some lifting, but it was always pretty light. But what would you say was the when that changed?
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I think it was Evander Holyfield. Ai think it was Mackie Shillstone trained Evander Holyfield when he went up to heavyweight. And I I remember myself at the tyler, so this was in the nineties. I remember thinking, what is he doing? He’s lifting weights. He’s gonna fuck himself up.
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Don’t doesn’t he know that all these coaches have already figured it out?
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Right.
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And then all of a sudden, Evander got all these ram. Dude, he was trapped and dealt it out. He got jacked. Yeah. And he became a legitimate heavyweight. Also, pretty sure there were some Mexican supplements involved.
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Yeah. He might have gone across the bryden. Ah.
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I mean,
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I didn’t I’m not
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I think. It’s a strong It
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was the nineties. The nineties were a good time.
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I think it’s a strong possibility that there was some help. Because also, like, you never heard of anybody tested positive for steroids back then. No. And I know for a fact that some of those guys were on steroids.
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I would not disagree.
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I know people who know people and I know
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I mean, we’re all the sai.
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I would fucking put it all on black. Yeah.
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Well, because up until ai, steroids weren’t even illegal as a controlled substance.
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Is that right? Who caused it to be illegal? Joe Biden.
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No shit.
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Yep. That motherfucker. It was all him. Yeah. You know? Derek from More Plates More Dates was telling us about it the other day. I’m like, that motherfucker, he did it.
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That should be saloni, a recent
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way. Well, I guess the idea is that people could abuse it. Right? Right. Here’s the deal, folks. You can abuse almost everything.
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Sure.
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This is my argument against online gambling. You know, there’s a lot of people that think online gambling should be banned because so many people are losing money on online gambling. Shut the fuck up. Do you know how easy it is to not online gamble? It’s so easy. You know how easy it is? I’ve never online gambled.
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It makes 2 of us.
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That’s how easy it is to not online gamble. I probably forget my password to
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get into the thing, but yeah.
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Ai, like, I’m not discounting the fact that gambling is addictive. I personally know gambling addicts. One of my best friends, Dana White, is a fucking gambling addict. He happens to be insanely wealthy, so he can get away with it.
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But That helps.
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I I’ve I grew up in pool halls. I know Yep. Gambling addicts. I get it. I’m not one. Yeah. So it’s possible to, like, fucking have some self control and discipline and will power.
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The weird thing, I’ve never done crack either.
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Crazy. It’s strange. Crack is everywhere and it’s sai scourge of humanity. I’ve never done crack. You know what?
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It’s really weird. I’m so I’ve never even seen crack.
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I’ve seen it.
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Yeah. I I Weird. I saw cocaine once in my entire life, which is wild based on That is pretty wild. Ai know a lot of people and it’s like, yeah. Like, did they just think I would just say no to that? Because I grew up in eighties, just sai no generation, but
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I haven’t seen I
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didn’t think it was ai a real thing.
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Since I was in high school. I’ve never I Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of crazy because I know so many people who do coke. Yep. But I was at a party in high school the last time I saw someone doing Coke. No way. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. In your world?
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Yeah. Ai world. Yeah. Why don’t I don’t do anything like that. I don’t ever fuck around. I’ve never done Coke. I’ve never even thought about doing it.
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Neither yeah.
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But I never had the ai. Because I I was around people that were abusing it when I was in high school. Sure. So I was ai, okay.
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Do you think that’s because you’re such, like, a strong personality and, like, kind of role model that people are ai, hey, Joe’s not into that, like, keep it away from
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him. Do
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you think they’re, like, respectful of that and just kinda know the deal?
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They just know I don’t want it. Yeah. I think so. Ai just not interested in anything that gives me more confidence. I’m not interested in that. I got plenty of that. I like humility. I’m looking for humility. Ai don’t like confidence boosters. Ai don’t like anything that gives you, like, a a ridiculous sense of, like, your abilities. Like, I’m not I I’d rather be humble. Yes.
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I’m not interested in I
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mean, delusion is a is a strong is a strong sai.
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If you Sometimes.
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Yeah. No. And it could get your bound up too.
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Definitely. Yeah. I think it gets you pretty far, and then your fucking wheels come off. It’s pretty big.
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It’s like when you’re skateboarding when you’re a kid, you Woah.
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Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
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Have you
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ever seen a on a motorcycle sana you see when they do that? You’re like, no.
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It’s like you had Josh Rollin on it the other day. That was ai what he did in Goonies. Remember he had the little bike?
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Oh, that’s right. He was
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he was talking about the ai, and all I could think about is my head is him flying off the cliff in Goonies.
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Oh, that’s hilarious. Child of years. I forgot he was in Goonies. Yeah. I should’ve brought that up. We could hold we should have wanted to bring it up so bad.
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Ai was on the plane.
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Biting my tongue the whole time.
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I was I was riding the plane. I was like, all I could see is that cat in sweatpants with his shorts on top of his sweatpants riding a tricycle or whatever down this hill
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because He’s one of the rare guys that was like a child actor that turned out really awesome.
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Yeah. That’s a that’s a that’s a small club.
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That’s a fucking super small club.
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Yeah.
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Because everybody that I know and I know a few people personally that were famous as a young person, they’re out of their fucking mind. They’re just they’re they’re ai you know what I sai? It’s ai, look at him.
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Hey, I have a good memory. Look at me.
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How old was he back then?
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He’s probably 17 or 18. That’s so crazy.
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Well, he’s 2 years younger than meh, 85. In 85, I was 18. So he’s probably like
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Well, the eighties not so awesome.
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Eighties were pretty cool. Eighties Except everybody’s worried that Russia was gonna blow us up. True story. Yeah. True story.
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Yeah. I remember ai, I believe it was 85 going to, Sai ai, obviously, we’re both into archery. So ai, Rambo First Blood part 2 came out. Pops took me to the movie theater. He and I saw it, and we went straight from there to the archery shah. I got my first bow that day. Really?
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Ai still have it. Wow.
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Yeah. It’s awesome. I still have some of the same arrows.
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No shit. Yeah.
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I I I strangely don’t lose things. But, yeah, I remember in the backyard shooting because, like, he kinda half taught me and then I was in the backyard zinging arrows and thinking, like, if I had explosive tips, like, how badass would this be?
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I went to, Ai and, you know, they have, the Pineapple Brothers has said archery and Ai brought my whole family. And then, they also have this area where you can go and you can, like, shoot sai, you ai, like, 44 wheelers up in the mountains and then they had, like, traditional archery ai bows and arrows.
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And I was, like, oh, let me try this. I don’t know how to fucking aim. I’m terrible at it. I was like, I’m a good archer. I should be good at this. Or I thought. I could barely hit the fucking target from 20 yards away. I’m like, man.
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It’s like the science and the arya. 2 different things.
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They’re totally totally different.
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Yeah. I’ve always said, like, the guys that are traditional hunters, you know, trad guys, they’re either weirdos or they’re absolute killers.
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Right. It’s like Aaron Snyder type dudes Yeah. Who are so good at compound archery. They get tired of it.
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Yeah. Or they’re weird guys that smell like sausage and live in the mom’s basement. And they’re like you’re like, I yeah. I know you do that, but you probably go to, like, Ren Fairs and stuff too. So I’m not sure what’s the deal is.
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Well, at Archery Country, you know, the local, archer shop here in town, Whenever I get a new bow or I get a new sight and I have to sight it in, we go to their they have an indoor range and a lot of times in the indoor range, there’s these dorks, sorry folks, dorks with recurves and they’re fucking they’re at 20 yards, they’re speak. It’s like my arm length. It’s wild. Ai barely hitting the arya. That’s wild. Don’t do that. This is stupid.
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You don’t you
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don’t shoot ai a like a cardinal direction. I’m shooting east today. Like Well,
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I when they get good, like, I’ve seen Schneider, like,
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make groups
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at 40. Ai like the size of a silver dollar, but most people struggle pretty hardcore. But they say also that if you do wanna hunt with it, you have to practice every day because it’s almost like throwing a ball. Mhmm. Like, you know, if you’re throwing a ball, you know how much the ball weighs because you throw it a bunch of times and you have, like, this muscle memory that if I throw that hard at 20 yards, I’m gonna hit that thing.
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Yeah. It’s like a quarterback. Like, quarterbacks, I know a couple of my buddies, college quarterbacks, they’re all good trad archers because they kinda, like, have that hand eye, vatsal, they know the curve. Yeah. But you gotta be on that. Ai buddy got into it. Brandon Lilly, the power lifter.
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He got into it and he all he hunted with for a couple years is ram. And that that cat window, like Argentina and Africa just nuts in a sack with he’s ai, no. I’m going to trad boat. I’m like,
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okay, man. I’m always like, do you hate accuracy? No.
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He he got it done, but holy cow, like
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I know. But there’s something about dialing it in to, like, 47 yards. He’s like drawing back and center in your pan and just watching that shot break and watch that arrow go exactly where you want it to go Just and shah and hit those ribs.
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Just the dopamine button of all time.
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It’s the greatest. It is. It does can you
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see the arrow? Does it slow down when you shoot at animals like it does for me? It looks like there’s no way this arrow is ever gonna get to it’s like everything in my ram. It’s like, that book, The Rise of Superman, when you go in a flow state. Mhmm. Like, everything speeds up in your brain, so actually the purse, purse, would be the perception all all lengthens out.
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They say your brain actually starts firing 3 times faster, the little pictures. So that’s why the it slows down. This morning, I watched that arrow just right handed turn. I’m like, that that deer sana move. And it was only 27 yards, but I’m watching. Oh, that’s interesting. But when I’m shooting targets, I’m just like, man, whatever.
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And it ai.
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I don’t seem to think that. No. Really? No. I always think
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it takes forever to get to the air to animal.
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No. I’m trying to think of when do things slow down for me? No. Jujitsu? No. Jujitsu just with when you’re really in a a good state, it’s just on almost like you’re not thinking. It’s like all of a sudden you have an armbar. It’s like So
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it is a flow state?
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Yeah. It’s a completely flow state. But it’s a flow state that’s established after, you know, thousands of hours of drilling. And that’s the most important thing in jujitsu really is drilling. Mhmm. Everybody loves to roll because it’s so fun. Sure. You know, because it’s like you’re playing a video game. You’re ai trying to kill each other.
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But the really important thing is drilling and drilling with ai a certain amount of rigor, like a certain amount of speed and intensity. You know, you’re not trying to hurt each other but you’re drilling with like intention so that your body is completely accustomed to these movements.
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Ai, your your body recognizes these movements and, like, you slap that elbow, grab that armpit, get that arm drag, and you get the choke. Choke. Ai almost like it happens before you even know it’s happening because your brain is so just it’s just wired in there. Your your your your whole nervous system knows exactly what to do.
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It’s like a cascading effect, like a
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ai way to drill is you drill with a little resistance
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from your partner. Like, you don’t wanna put your partner to
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go limp on you. Sure. But
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it’ll just a slight of you don’t wanna put your partner to go limp on you.
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Sure.
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But just a slight amount of like, you have good partners, a slight amount of resistance, but then go through those motions with, like, a little bit of speed, but not not ai full blast. Sure. But the whole idea is just get those numbers in. Ram. Bam. Bam. Eddie Bravo has the best, explanation for this.
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He says, you know when you tie your shoe, you don’t think about tying your shoe. You just go shhht ping and your shoe just ties.
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Yep. Right?
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Because you’re you tie your shoes every fucking day.
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Right.
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You know exactly how to tie your shoes. Once you learn how to tie your shoes, it’s just ping. Yep. He goes, that’s what a jiu jitsu movie is.
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That’s terrible.
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It’s ai, it just gets in there and you don’t sometimes you don’t know what’s happening until it’s happened. Ai, all of a sudden you have a triangle, like, woah. Like shit Yeah.
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That was helpful.
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Yeah. It’s just it’s just you’ve done it so many times that when someone overextends or when someone gives up their neck or it just cinches up. It’s just one of those things where your whole nervous system is just preprogrammed to ai very specific movements.
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Yeah. So you’ve taken all these little closed skills, which are replicable, and then put them in open format where, like, the if then scenario, like, the flowchart just goes, go go go go go no go.
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And the best guys are the guys that drill constantly and then also study and take notes. Like like Gordon Bryden, that’s his belt out there.
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Oh, that’s good.
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Gordon trains 365 days a year. With ai days a year. And So it’s pretty decent. Any days off. He doesn’t and he trains all fucking day long. So if you wanna beat him, good luck because you have to catch those numbers. You have to bypass those numbers somehow. It’s not like he’s not talented.
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It’s not like he’s not intelligent. It’s not like he’s not physically strong. So he’s got all those attributes already. Right. And then you have this insane work ethic along with dedication to technique.
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Yes.
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Which is
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And you’d have years or decades to catch up
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Exactly.
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And you just can’t.
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And so there’s too many guys in jujitsu that were just, like, big muscle heads Mhmm. That would just, like, muscle a move and those just give a lot of grunt and you’re never gonna beat a technique guy who’s just as strong as you.
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Right. If That uses less percentage of their power and everything to get the same job done.
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Also knows exactly where to be. Like, you don’t you might not know exactly where to be because you’ve gotten away with a lot of stuff because you’re big. You know, because you’re big and you’re strong and you’ve pushed through stuff ai Yep. Like big guys on their back. Like, there’s a lot of big guys.
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They get on their back and they become turtles. They they they don’t know what to do because they they never get put on their back. Sure. Because if they’re training if you’re a guy who’s £250 and you’re in a normal jujitsu gym, what are the odds is of the £250 guy there? Most guys are 190, 200, maybe there’s a 210. Right.
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There’s not a lot of really
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big guys. 3, 250
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you’re saying. It’s rare. It’s rare. So you usually can push these guys onto their back and that’s easier to do. So you probably do that more often and you ai smashing people, so you smash all these people. But the problem is then you never develop a bottom game. You never develop a guard. You never develop ability to get out from under a big guy and do it technically.
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You know, get that under hook, like, you know, work for a deep half, ai, figure a way to get back up to your feet. You you’re just always used to, like, overpowering people and then when someone’s bigger than you, you’re fucked.
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Way.
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You’re fucked.
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So were you always strong, like
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Well, I was always strong
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but I didn’t really start lifting weights
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Okay. Until I got into jiu jitsu. Okay. I mean, I always lifted a little bit of weights. Sai always worked out a little bit, but I was more into kickboxing than anything. Sure. But when I started doing jiu jitsu, I was like, oh, being strong is like a big advantage. Yeah. It’s a it’s a huge advantage. Yeah.
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Which is interesting because I was watching this video where these guys were talking about this, these wrestlers, and they were saying that wrestling has always acknowledged that power is really important. But for some reason, jujitsu, they would like to pretend that it’s not important, that that technique is everything.
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Was it cultural from where it was? Like, were the gracies and and would ai
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I think technique is more important. Right? Because if a guy doesn’t have technique and he has strength and you have technique, you can beat him. But
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you can’t discount really effing strong.
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Right. But you also can’t discount a guy who’s really fucking strong with technique. And they’re not mutually exclusive. No. Like a lot of guys who are really fucking strong also know how to grapple and that’s sai giant problem.
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Now is there like in the throws world, we always talk about, like, technique speed is everything.
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Explain to people what you’re talking about when they throw out world.
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Ai, meh. I’m I’m one of those nerdy guys that picked the sport that’s, like, the least paying sport of all time. So I was a hammer thrower. So it’s like a shot put speak ball, 16 pound steel ball on a 1 meter, you know, 3 foot long wire. So what you see on the Olympics, they spin around really, really fast and yell and scream and always make, like, the highlight reels of guys that
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Where did that come from? Was that a weapon at one point
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in time? Yeah. Sai they actually, in Scotland, they they would use it was a hammer. They would literally have, like, for agrarian to ai, and they have a sai cylindrical head on it sai they could use it every side. And so that would that became a a way to train for battle because they weren’t allowed the Scottish weren’t allowed to have weapons. Oh. Yeah.
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So they would start throwing stones After the Braveheart days? Yes. Or during those days.
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So they weren’t supposed
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to have weapons. So they’re like, f this. We’re just gonna take all the stuff we we have and stay strong, stay ready. And then actually their their stone was called the clachnort, which meant, stone of strength.
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What a great name.
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That’s sai wonderful name.
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That’s a Ai name if I ever heard one. Viking. Just tell me
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how badass this is. So, like, each family, like, the Bryden family, like, you’re the patriarch. Right? You have your Clacchnart up on the mantle or whatever it is. So at your family outings, whatever outings those may be, all the men, very much like in Braveheart, they would go and throw it.
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The fur the guy who throws the clacnort, the family saloni, the furthest is kinda like the dude. Like, he’s ai, alright. Are you now ai son has surpassed me. He’s shown he’s a man now. Right. Here’s the wildest part. This this gives me chills.
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So they would if they went off to battle, they would take their clachnoid, their stone. And on the way out of town, they would all put it in a ai. And they’re called out this is called a cairn or a cairn. So they would put in a pile. So if they did not return to battle, they had placed their own monument to their town of their sacrifice. Woah.
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So could you imagine so when you go past these old towns and there’s a pile, you’re like, a lot of guys didn’t come home.
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And those piles are still there?
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When I was in Scotland, they did say a lot of them are still there. I was competing when I did Highland Games, Scottish Highland Games. And it’s ai. So, like, you think about it. You’re like, man, you’re literally ai of placing your family’s stone of, like, I’m going off, and if I don’t show up, like Dude, I
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was in Scotland last year, and there was
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What part of Scotland again? Ai, I wish I could remember.
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I’m not exact I’ll
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Up in the Ai like Hobe
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Rules. Stuff in there and Aberdeen? I went with some friends and they they took us to this place that my friend owns property out there.
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Naturally.
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And, when we went there, there was a stone circle that is way older than than Stonehenge. Nowhere. Yeah. And it’s just sitting there.
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Sai A lot of stuff in Scotland is just sitting there.
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It’s just sitting there in front of this dude’s house, and you can go and stand on it. I was like, this is crazy and it’s got ai a little monument on it, but no one’s stopping you from, like, walking around on it. And they’re not big stones ai small saloni, but these stones are they’re like I’m like, who made this? I was asking the guy that we’re with, he’s pretty knowledgeable.
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He’s like, no one knows. Wow. Ai just left left laying around.
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Yeah. Sai, like, Scotland. There you go.
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Is that it? No. That’s not it, but it’s kinda like that. It wasn’t nearly as high. They were smaller standing stones and it was, and there’s a bunch of them, like, laying around like there’s a ai stone on the ground. Like, how old is that? Wow. Ai that’s probably, like, 1,000 of years old. Wow. But nobody knows. Like, no they don’t know who made the stone Yeah.
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Because somebody just put
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it there.
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It’s just a guide saloni. Like, so if you were on a trail through the Scottish Highlands, you would find these rocks. We’re on the right place, Lord. And this is fucking stone that’s been there for 3000 years or whatever. Like, they don’t even know how old it is. And it’s just sitting there. So cool though.
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But it’s a crazy thing. It was ai across the street from this guy’s house. Sai it’s got like this normal house and there’s a little street. Then across the street from his house is a stone circle that’s ai, who knows how fucking old. Nope. It’s not that either.
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Yeah. They have, like, the other stones of strength there, the inverse stone.
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The meh our order and the stonehenge in Scotland because all 3 of these I pulled up.
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God. Damn. How weird are you
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just really high? Maybe you’re in actually England.
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Oh, I was totally sober. Look look at that image right there. How weird is
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that one?
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Cool. The ring of Bryden. How do you say that? Brodgar.
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They have some sweet names over there too.
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Brodgar. The ring of Brodgar. Ai, what did they do in that ring? How many goats died in that ring?
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Ai lot of fights.
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How many fucking people got sacrificed to that ring? I mean, 1,000 and 1000 of years ago.
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Sai cool. The the stones over there, like, they a lot of people go over to a lot of strongmen. They’ll do, like, the stone tour. So they’ll lift all the they’ll lift the Denny stones and the Inverse stone. And the Inverse stone, I lift that. That was in a old lady’s garden.
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Right. There’s, like, a stone with
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ai 100 Yeah. It’s, like, a 265 pound, like, big egg saloni. And, like Just laying around? It it’s literally in this lady’s garden. It’s called the inverse stone. And people go there? People go there. And Ma’am, can I go lift your rock? 100% what happens.
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Really?
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Yeah. We were over there competing, the US team. We were over there and, like, all the Highland game guys were like, let’s go check this out. We all lifted it, and she invited us in for tea. She’s like, well, we’ll come and, come and sign the book. And you look in the book, it’s ai, Bill Kasmayer was here. So and so is here. You’re like, oh meh gosh.
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Like, the greatest strongman in the world had come as a pilgrimage to lift this saloni, and then they ai the book. And you’re like
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That’s so weird.
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This is awesome. And then across the street There it is. Yeah.
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There
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yeah. And then How do you sai that word? We call it the inverse stone. In invert Invert
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called Invert called saloni? Yeah. It seems like it’s almost been, like, honed.
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Well, that it that’s
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Doesn’t it seem like it was polished to
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that size?
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There you
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go. That one’s outside.
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Oh, Oh, that one actually has numbers
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on it. Yeah. That’s the one I lifted.
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It sai 6 ai. Is that what it says?
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Yep. And, sai we lifted it and then actually so what happened after back in the eighties when Ai was coming on the scene, you know, Bill Kaczmeier obviously, World’s Strongest Sai, ai started the stage. He allegedly picked it up. You know, it was the man thing if he could pick up.
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He picked up and carried it across the street and bellied it up to the bar and laid it onto the bar and had a beer.
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I ai be mad if that was my bar. Like, probably
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Oh, he he chipped the crap out of the bar. Ai did. That was up there. I was like, yeah, that’s where Bill chipped it. This is badass. That’s not a historian. I like that stuff. Sai we traveled all around, lift all the stones. It was cool. But, anyway, a thrower is a peep person who decides to do a sport that doesn’t pay a lot. No. I’m just kidding.
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But it’s a shot put, discus, hammer, javelin. It was all those original Olympic sports. They were all weapons. And so Ai
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That’d be a good sport if you’re a trans woman. You get in Oh,
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you would. Oh.
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You would dominate. Oh, if I The regular chicks wouldn’t have a chance.
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Oh, I’m at 48 years old. I could still throw the living crap out of a woman’s implement if I wanted to. It’d be it’d be a great move. But, yeah, it was a part of the track and field. I got into it in college, kind of a weird Forrest Gump like story, and it changed the course of my life.
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Have you done lift, run, shoot yet with Cam?
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I haven’t done it with Cam. No. I’ve we played around and done some stuff like that at my farm, you know, during
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You should do his his podcast, the lift, run, shoot shah.
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That’d be great.
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That makes you carry a rock up the fucking mountain.
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I went up Pisgah with him. I haven’t carried the rock And, but I’m sure you’ve done sai a
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good ram rock.
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That’s insane.
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I haven’t done Pisgah. I’m not doing that.
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Fuck out of here. That was rough.
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Yeah.
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That was rough. I started running. I’m not a big cardio guy.
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No. I just didn’t go anywhere where that guy’s running.
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Dude, he is he is as advertised as a badass. Like Oh,
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he’s a complete psychopath. Legit. He’s one of my best friends. He’s a complete psychopath.
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We did we’re I we all got running and then he kinda left me and then, like, he got to the top and then did his dance and then he came back down and like, hey, meh. And then it was it was very remarkable ai it he goes, ai. Why do I do this all the time? He goes, if we crested this corner right now and you saw the biggest bull of your life at 70 yards, could you make the shot?
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I’m like, bro, I’m looking on my ear hole right now. Like, I’m screwed. Meh. That’s why I do this every day. I’m ai, yeah, I’m tracking.
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He’s also addicted to exercise. He’s addicted to cardio.
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Yeah.
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I think so much. A state of mind that a lot of those distance runners get in that they get really, really addicted to. And it there’s a runner’s ai, like, the runners Did you experience that? Oh, yeah.
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For sure. Yeah. Long cardio
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sessions. Yeah. I never have. I’ve tried it, then I just either
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get bored or mad at cardio, then I go and lift weights and throw things. Wow. You’ve got, like, that power strength
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throwing background, you know, it’s ai it doesn’t really benefit you to be really into cardio. Yeah. It actually probably would diminish some of your strength.
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Like heavily. Yeah. Greg Glassman back in 07 when I was throwing highland games, he was like, ai, you you gotta do cardio or do CrossFit. And I was like, why? And he was like, no. It’ll help your throwing. I go
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Oh, the CrossFit guy? Yeah. Yeah. Doesn’t look like it works out at all?
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That’s the one.
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Yeah. Yeah. I’m not taking advice from you, buddy.
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Ai was sitting there. I was like, I’m £265. He’s like, you should do CrossFit. And I’m like, I’m trying to be the best thrower in the world, and that has nothing to do with any of this other stuff.
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Yeah. I have a I have a golden rule when it comes to taking advice. I don’t take advice from anybody who looks like shit.
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That’s sound. That’s sound advice.
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If you look like shit, I’m not taking advice. I know you had, like, some physical problems. Right? Yeah. Something’s wrong with him or something?
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But the bottom line is unknown and unknowable was not my sport. My sport was extremely known and extremely knowable. I know the Olympic trials are on this day, and I need to show up and go really far.
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And also, if you wanna be a power lifter or if you wanna do some just completely power focused exercise
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Correct.
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It does not benefit you to spend time getting in, like, extreme cardiovascular shape ai you do need to do what kind of running the cam does.
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Yeah. And then it’s not even not beneficial. It’s detrimental.
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Right.
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I mean, we would joke, like, why run when you could walk? Why walk when you could sit down? And why sit down when you could lay down? Like, as throwers, that was what we would do. I mean, we would lay down every chance and eat every chance you meh, and then we’re ai, I’m gonna stand up and do something really hard and fast for 3 seconds.
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Right. And I’m gonna go rest for a while. Yeah. Call me when I’m back up.
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Yeah. I mean, there’s different different things have different requirements. But if you wanna be a mountain elk hunter, what he does is very beneficial. I just ram run. My I have a bad left knee that’s been really bothering me the last few years. Yeah. And I just twisted it again this, September.
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Yeah. You’re saying your sciatica was a little tweaked there.
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That was another problem. That was from overuse of no. It’s just being stupid. That’s overuse of, archery. So What? I was yeah. Because, you know, I have two bows. I have a bow that’s £84 and a bow that’s £90. So I’m pulling these ai bows a 100 times a day.
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Are you sure meh do that many times a day? Oh, yeah. Good for you.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, you have to. It for that moment when, like, a fucking giant bull walks in between the trees and you have a 70 yard shot, you have to 100% be confident that you can make that shot. And so I’m shooting at 84 yards over and over and over and over and ai and oh, I’m obsessive but the problem was I developed, like, tendinitis in my lower back.
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And so it’s overused from the stabilizing, from, like, holding yourself. Sai it’s the pulling, well, I’m sure that’s it, but it’s also holding it right there in that position and it’s all in my right lower back. But, it’s much much better now. I started doing this thing called NuFit.
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Okay.
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Talked about it the other day with Derek, where they’re doing electrical muscular stimulation while you go through exercises.
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Mhmm.
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It’s really helpful. Really? Yeah. It’s been 3 ai. Microcurrent
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or more like a
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It juices you up. Ai, it’s all the all the muscles contract. Like
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stem kinda
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thing. Yeah. But it’s very strong. So this is and you can crank up the intensity. So, this is some shah ai you saw Mike try Mike Tyson when he was training for Jake Paul, he was doing that. Like, what I think it’s really good for I don’t I don’t know if it’s good for a lot of these things, but it’s really good for rehabilitation.
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Sure.
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For rehabilitation, I think there’s tremendous benefits to it. And I bet there’s some benefits for athletes for working on specific things and doing it while you’re getting juiced up. But man, for for me, it’s been it’s helped me quite a bit. Was Pretty quickly too.
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Ai, throw it on or that specific spot or are they they firing something else to
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go out there? Ai a lot of different parts of your back. So it’s like both sides of my back, my obliques, my core, and just going through a bunch of rotational exercises and a bunch of different things Yeah. To strengthen lower back and just, you know, you’re getting a lot of blood flow through there and stretching it and it’s it just was I was getting pain and I was like, shut up, pussy.
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And I would just ignore the pain and then it just got bad. Yeah. It got bad to the point where my hips were getting kinda numb. Mhmm. And when I was hiking up hills, like, in October, when I was hunting in October, it was bothering me a lot. I was like, okay.
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I’ve gotta really do something about this.
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Yeah. Because you could be, you know, talk yourself in or out of something really hard, but it if it’s something that’s just gonna be chronic, like, well, I’m still I’ll
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just turn it chronic. Yeah. But it’s a lot better now.
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Good. It’s a lot better now,
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and it’s only been 3 weeks.
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Oh, that’s great.
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Ai knee is still fucked, but not totally. It’s mostly soft tissue. It just I twisted it. I twisted it crossing, ai slippery ground ai, in September. And, I’ve had a lot of problems with it. I’ve had two knee surgeries. I had my ACL reconstructed. I had, a meniscus piece removed.
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And then when I was skiing, the last time I skied, last and final time I ever sai, this lady who didn’t know how to ski and she, like, slid into the trail and I had to try to not wipe out not not hit her rather, and I wiped out and I got what’s called the insufficiency fracture.
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So it’s a the bone fractured at the top of my shin, my fibula, or my tibia rather, right where the cartilage is. And so Really? Yeah. That created quite a bit of pain. And then I twisted it again one time when I was about to get on stage.
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It’s hard when the play out.
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Ai Stubs. I was going to Stubs, which is ai this outside, concert venue. And I was looking at my phone to turn my voice recorder on ai I could, like, record. And as I was doing that, I twisted my knee on this concrete step. Just yank the shit out of it to the point where my leg was shaking while I was on stage because I was in pain.
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It looked like I was super nervous, but it was really just pain. Because I don’t think
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at this point, you get super nervous on stage when you’re talking.
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No. Once I’m up there, I’m not nervous at all.
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Do you still get nervous beforehand?
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I get excited. Yes. Ai think anything you do that you really care about, you should get excited.
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Yeah. I used to call ai national leg when I would go to, national championships in the hammer. All year, I’d be fine. And when I would wind the hammer on the first one, when I took the hammer back, my right leg would bounce. And I’m like, oh, there it is. It was it was one throw a year, and I was like, here we go. Oh, wow. We’re back. They just had adrenaline.
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Oh, it
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was adrenaline. Because you’re in your physically, you’re speak for it. You’re ai, this is the day I have to compete. You you you remember how
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it was. Yeah.
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But you’re like, this is the day. And, like, everything else is kinda work. And then you’re like, I’m cashing out today. I get to cash out today. Like, I get to, like and then it’s ai, oh, that’s the best.
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Yeah. That’s the best. Doing exciting things is really fun. And Oh, man. It’s so important for you to grow as a human. Do something that scares the shit out of you. Do something that excites you. Do something that’s difficult.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s almost I don’t know. Sometimes it’s good when it’s a more dynamic where you don’t know when it’s gonna happen, but but looking forward to something is pretty badass too because then you could start focusing training, focusing efforts, and then going through, like, almost stages of guilt, the stages of ai.
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And you’re like, okay. Am I excited? No. I got this ai. No. I just go back and forth. Yeah. Let’s go. It’s live.
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Yeah. That’s what it is with everything. I mean, I think it’s the these processes of, like, recognizing there’s a goal Yes. Working towards it, solving problems, working hard, pushing yourself through discipline. That’s how you grow. And it’s like that. That’s how everything grows. Right? This is how your mind grows.
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This is how your body grows. This is how your life grows. Like, you have to do stuff that’s arya. Then you get better at doing stuff that’s hard, and that’s how you get better.
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Yeah. And then you level up and you’re in this next wilderness. You’re ai, alright. Well, what’s the next thing?
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But when that alarm clock goes off, it’s so hard to know that. You know all these things, but you’re this the force of the bed, the gravity of that warm meh.
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Oh, it’s cold in the room.
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Oh. Especially, like, shout out to people who live in, like, Alaska. Oh. When they have to get out of bed? Dude. Fuck.
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I’m sure you’ve done some some hunts where, you know, you’re in a tent or something. Oh, yeah. And then you’re ai, I know I really wanna get out there, but oh ai this you’re ai, my boots are bryden. And ai, maybe that bull will just kinda walk more this way.
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First hunt I ever did was with Steve Rinnell in Montana. Oh, yeah.
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Ai remember seeing that.
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It was 9 degrees. ai degrees in the morning. We’re just ai, Jesus Christ. It’s so cold.
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That that was the the hunt that started it all for you, wasn’t it? Yes. Little forky ai of buck from what
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I remember.
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No. Okay.
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That’s the buck. Oh, no way. Yeah. That’s the first buck I ever shot.
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That’s awesome.
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That’s him.
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Yeah. The the, the buck that launched a 1,000 hunting careers.
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Well, it was a life changing experience. But, you know, I’ve one of those things where, you know, you ai, like, wow, where would we be without houses? And it was only, by the way, it was only, I think, October. It was October of 2012. I’m pretty sure it was October, and it was already 9 degrees in Montana. Like, what what was it like in February to these poor fucks?
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37:38
What’s January ai in the morning? And you’re in a tent? Bro. Fuck.
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Well, it’s like Josh Smith up there at MKC has talked about. It’s like, yeah. Everyone loves Yellowstone. Y’all about to find out in February. He’s like, everyone wants to move here. He goes, stick around. It’s gonna get live here in about January or February.
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How many people got super confused by that show and bought a house there and they’re ai, what is this why is the ground solid? Exactly. Oh, I
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love it. It’s like, this is fantastic.
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38:06
Especially someone who’s never lived in the real north before, you don’t know what happens when your ground freezes. The ground is a piece of rock. Like, so if you fall on it Freezes.
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A rock. Everything freezes. Yeah. Oh, that’s a that’s a whole different animal.
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38:21
It’s a different way to live. That’s for sure. But, you know, I was talking with, this gentleman yesterday, Rick Strassman.
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Oh, cool.
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He was a ai. But we were we were talking about the time where he was living in Alaska, and he was living in Alaska, and he lived in Southern California, and then he moved to Fairbanks where it’s 39 degrees below 0. And he’s ai, what the hell? And then it’s dark for, like, 10 hours. Everyone’s depressed and then the ai D lights. We’re not dark for 10 hours rather.
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38:51
It’s, it’s only light for 4 hours. Ai light for 4 hours. So it’s dark for 20 hours.
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38:57
Yeah. Fuck that. Have you you’ve been to Alaska a lot, I would think. You like it?
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Sai like the people up there. They’re they’re hardy. They’re different kind of human.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I I was in a Battle tested.
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They they arya, and everyone wears extra tough boots.
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Yeah. You don’t want you caught outside with some fucking bullshit flip flops.
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Yeah. And if your boots are too clean, you meh made fun of openly. They’re like, hey. Nice new extra toughs. Ai, cool.
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39:21
You know, you’re you’re friends with Tyler from Archer Country. Tyler is always walking around everywhere with flip flops.
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Ai, that guy hunted yesterday in shorts. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. He’s a different guy. He killed
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a deer in shorts.
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If you’re in Alaska and you have flip flops, you’re gonna die. You’re gonna your feet are gonna freeze off. You’re gonna have no feet.
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Yeah. Like, you need boots. I was out of the bar out there. We were in Homer, Alaska, and it’s we’re playing pool and jacking around.
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39:44
Where’s Homer?
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Homer is, they have this big spit that comes out. I don’t know. It’s in Alaska somewhere. How far up there? Far?
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39:53
It’s all far.
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Alaska’s big, man. I don’t know.
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When you
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see how big
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it is and you, like, lay
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it over the country Jamie, where’s Homer?
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39:59
How how much we stole from
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the Russians. Of course, you’d have that. There it is. There it is. Sai we were yeah. Goddamn, Alaska’s big. It’s so cool, isn’t it? So we’re on that, like, big spit. So we were on that bay, which is crazy. And yeah. So we’re down there. And, we were at a bar goofing around.
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And, I remember I walked into the bathroom and I was like, I just kinda noticed. I was like, yeah. There’s no mirror on the wall, whatever. It’s like, oh, that’s kinda interesting. And when the guy ai like, yeah. There’s no mirrors in the bathrooms in Alaska because it doesn’t matter what you look like.
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You better just be capable or you’re gonna die. And I was like, what a cool place. Like, he was just like, no one cares what you look like here. Because everyone’s hair is all froed out and they’re dirty and oily and greasy. He’s like, yeah. That’s that’s the flex here if you’re can make it.
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That’s interesting.
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Yeah. I was like, oh, what a cool but, yeah, we were sitting in that bay looking across the bay, with a pair of speak dares and and looking at tracks and seeing animals across the bay, like, 19 miles away. It was crazy on that white snow. It was wild. I never thought you could see that far of a spotting scope.
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41:03
No kid. How much magnification is ai? Oh, wow.
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Yeah. Some monsters. But still, it was ai yeah. A big swarrow that you could see, you know, all of Elon stuff up in space with probably.
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41:15
Imagine those poor fools that had to hunt with traditional bows, no binos, no spotting scopes. Dude, no wind checker, no No app finder. App. No apps. I have apps. I have everything. Oh, yeah. I have a range finder that syncs up with my app.
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Of course you do.
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Ai, I don’t even I haven’t even set it up yet.
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But it’s Do you nerd out on all this stuff like I do?
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41:35
I do. Sai, here’s the problem. I have a Leupold range finder. I really like Leupold’s full draw. Yep. The reason why I like it is because it’ll show you the arc of your arrow. Just how nerdy it is, folks. So my arrows go 294 feet per second.
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Okay. How heavy?
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They’re these are 475, ai ai. And you calculate all this stuff. You put all this stuff into the ai. And the rangefinder knows exactly how heavy your arrow is, exactly what the peak of it’s gonna be as it comes off your bow, how fast it’s going, and it gives you a line. So that line so if I’m shooting through a gap in some trees, and I actually did this a couple years ago.
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42:19
I actually did it when I had a Garmin rangefinder. Right? So the Garmin is a range ai sight, which is pretty badass.
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42:28
I’ve always wanted to play with
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42:29
It kept fucking up though. Yeah. And apparently, they’re getting better, but Electronics. They’ve they fucked me a couple ai. And it would fuck me on my range. Like, I would I’d be at full draw ram my range and I know it’s 84 yards ai I press the button and I’m not getting a range.
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And I press the button again and I’m ai so you would press the button and it would give you a red dot. Right. When it works, it’s the greatest thing of all time. Sure. It’s like a pistol.
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42:50
Like, you see that red dot, that clear lens and then that dot, it’s the best ai picture of all time of all time. Yeah. Everything else ai the post or the side post Meh. They get a little in the way, just a touch. Not not bad.
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I can deal with it, you know, but that red dot was fucking amazing. So, I shot this I’ll show you the bow afterwards. I shot this big bow and he was coming through this gap and I wasn’t sure if the arrow was gonna make it there, so I pulled out the 2nd ai. Mhmm. And I clicked on that ai I got the height of the arrow. I knew I could make it and then I used the range finding sight.
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So
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A man that knows his tools.
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The opposite of these guys with their traditional bow. Boink. Yeah. Like, I’m Right. I’m, you know, I’m using technology. Sure. So the new loophole, though, the problem is it doesn’t have this this height thing in it. But the new one, when you range an animal with onX hunt Yeah.
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43:45
So you arrange the animal and it mark puts a pin down where that animal is.
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Yep. I actually had the I was one of the test subjects for that. They sai Oh. Yeah. Probably 2 years ago, I was hunting the Deseret with it, giving them feedback. We found a mule deer the day before, and I ranged and marked him. And we went back the next day, and I shot him at 14 yards.
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That’s crazy. It was awesome. That’s crazy because you can go back to the actual spot where he was.
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Yep. Yeah. It threw it off to my phone. And, it’s like the I can’t remember what it’s called. It’s the range, but it has, like, the l f
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Something ai?
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500. Yeah.
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Yeah. Something like that. So you find it, Jamie. Yeah. It’s pretty dope. It’s super cool. I love Leupold shit. I just wish their glass was as good as Swarovski’s. Yeah. Everybody I sai that about everybody, ai, Vortex makes awesome binos for the money, you can’t beat them, especially their HDX series. Those are really high end ones.
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44:34
Those are fucking great until you put
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it through the the Swarovski’s.
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44:37
Pick up those n l pures and you’re ai, fuck.
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You’re ai, yeah.
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It’s so it’s almost like I wish I never looked through them.
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Oh, it’s
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That’s it.
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Yeah. That’s it.
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The RX ai.
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Yeah. That thing is bad.
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44:48
It’s pretty dope. So it does. It syncs up with your Onyx hunt. See, it could show show you how it works there. So what’s really good about that is not just, you know you know where you hit the you know where the animal is. So if you have to go around somewhere and get back to him, you’ll you’ll be able to get ai to you know, if you’re trying to get away from the wind.
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Well, the spot and stalk is so nice because we were hunting mule deer in, Arizona, and you could sai thing. You’re you’re circling around and your depth of perception, you’d you know, I’ve I’ve been 200 yards off.
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45:21
I feel like this is more designed though for the rifle hunter, and this is, like, even they’re even showing guys, like, going 2,000 yards with this thing. I feel like, for the bowhunter, they just need to add the maybe they’ll just make it too big, but add that height of arrow technology.
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45:37
I don’t know why they wouldn’t put that in there. Yeah. Because I can’t use it. I I need that. That that is so huge for elk hunting. Yeah.
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45:44
For me, it’s ai gaps or everything. I wanna be able to be sneaky and just make my way around a tree. Just give me this. Give me this much and if it’s and if I know that the arrow is never gonna hit the top or the bottom, I’m golden and I have full confidence because otherwise it’s a mind fuck because I’m sure you’ve had arrows hit branches.
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46:02
Oh, yeah. It sucks so hard when you Boom. Whack. Yeah.
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We ai them in Cleveland somewhere.
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A few years back in, Utah.
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Here’s the one that’s for that one Ai had pulled up had a TBR was made for ballistics.
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ai, I think, this morning.
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These are all for archery.
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46:17
Meh. The foot well, the TBR is to the right. Yep. That that is, that one is a similar one. That was ai I don’t think that’s sai sophisticated though and I don’t think that has the app. The I think the RX one is the only one with the app, but I have that one, the full draw 5. I don’t go anywhere without that.
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It’s the shit. That that is to meh, I have a I’ve had a bunch of different ones that were really cool. Like Aaron Schneider turned me on to this Nikon a ai back that was, image stabilizing. That was a game changer. That was that’s a big deal because you could really, like,
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get the range
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ai on the animal. Yeah. Ai stabilizing range finder.
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Yeah. I use image stabilizing binoculars. Have you used those sai ones?
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46:57
I’ve used cams. I tried that.
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Those things.
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Pretty dope.
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I’m running sixteens.
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Yeah? Ai. Because you could just hold them.
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Because you just hold them. Ai mean, I have I’ve run Swarros since ai.
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Mhmm.
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And I started leaving mine at home because I like the sig so much. And they did the new HD, so it has a better, glass. Now it’s still not as clear as Swarros. I mean, that’s just but because you could stabilize, I could run 16ths. And I’ll run 16ths in the woods ai I could just peer through everything and, like, boom.
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47:25
I ran 12s in the woods this year, which is a little too much. When you when you’re not ai. Yeah. I usually run tens, but I like, sometimes
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10 by 40 twos?
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47:35
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes when you’re looking at something that’s really far off, you’re ai, I don’t know if that’s a good bull. Is that worth chasing? Yeah. The the twelves make all the difference in the world, but what I do is I grab my baseball hat. I learned this trick from Remy Warren.
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Oh, that’s a good idea.
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So what you
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do is you Remy’s a killing son of a gun.
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47:53
Sai use a killing son of a month. You clip that sucker down tight sai your vatsal on tight and then I’ll do this. Oh. And I’ll hold my binos right here or take my bow and put it here and then stack it on top of the bow. Press the bow up against your chest sai it’s not gonna go anywhere and then stack it on top of the That’s a good idea. Ram of the bow.
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A lot of guys do that. Sure. But Remy taught me this one and I think this one’s super legit.
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Just hold on to it. Super fast too. Yeah. And you
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can get your you could tuck your elbows in like this and you could really keep it stable. If I couldn’t do that I wouldn’t use twelves, but I don’t think I’m gonna use twelves anymore anyway.
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Really?
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No. I think tens are the way to go. And maybe even eights because you get a bigger field of view.
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Yeah. Because a lot
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of times I’m seeing stuff through trees and I’m I’m sneaking around, like, I I like to, you know, I’m a big spot and stalk guy.
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Sure.
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48:39
I’ve tried a bunch of different hunting. I’ve ai ground blind. I tree stand hunted with Dudley. Yep. That, you can go fuck yourself with that. Sitting in those trees all day? Fuck that. I am way too ADHD for that.
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You’ll find out if you’re crazy.
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Oh, I’m crazy. Yeah. I’m definitely crazy.
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Yeah.
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I don’t like it. I don’t like being up there in a tree like that.
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Here’s my question, though. I was just in Missouri. I went to our farm. I was there 6 or 7 days, and we sit up, you know, 30 minutes before to 30 minutes all day. Yeah. You have to. Sai is but I would think with as many people as popping on you and all this, like, it was nice because for me, I’m like, I’m quiet.
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I could just be Ai enjoy I enjoy that part where I could just unravel and think, like, think through problems. But, yes, you go crazy and then you burn out your phone because you’re like, and I’m gonna search for the dumbest things possible.
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49:32
I’m gonna buy socks.
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A 100%.
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49:36
In the city also, you you don’t realize, like, if it’s 30 degrees out, like, 30 degrees is no big deal. They could walk around 30 degrees, but as soon as you’re sitting there Dude. In 30 degrees, you get so fucking cold. So cold. You’re not moving. Sai you’re not generating any heat at all. Yeah. So then you’re in this stupid body warmer suit that zips up. Yeah.
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You’re
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ai like in a big snuggy.
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It’s a old oven, and my hands are in here. But the problem with that is if a deer comes in, he got a rip. Oh, yeah. You gotta make all that noise. You gotta get out of it. All this movement, grab your bow. Yeah. So you really shouldn’t do that.
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So you try to go with a puffy, but you’re still freezing. So then I start doing Bruce Lee exercises while I’m up there and fucking one thing I realized, ai there and fucking one thing I realized,
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I, I
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was so cold. I had a hard time pulling my bow back once. Yep. I was going to shoot this deer and I was up in that stand for, like, 4 or 5 hours.
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Yeah.
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In Iowa. Oh, yeah. And I go to pull that bow ai. I’m like, Jesus.
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Well, because you shoot a 90 pound bow.
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50:27
Yeah. But I was still cold part of it.
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Yeah. Oh, no. It’s yeah. I’ll sit there and just do, like, you
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know, like I had a 95 pound bow for a while.
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50:33
I remember when he made you that one.
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50:35
I couldn’t draw it on my knees. I had to stand up. You know how I found that out?
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Because you couldn’t
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because I was on my knees right behind sai bush and an elk walked behind meh fuck. Goddamn it.
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You’re like,
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that was sai hell. Weird spot too where I’d only lean on my left leg too. Like, so it was, you know, it was, like, I was on my knee, but I was even on my left knee. It was, like, a fucked up hill.
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You don’t have a good
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50:55
Yeah. Ai was, like, my right knee was up like this. My left knee was down there. Ai, this is bullshit. That bow was crazy.
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51:02
I remember when you texted
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51:03
ai 540 grain arrows, 305 feet per second. Bro. When it hits, it was just ai, wow. It was it was a like, I remember we were shooting at the Deseret, and we were all shooting at a 100 yards. It’s me and a couple of these guys. Yeah. And, they shot first, and then I shot. And the guys go, what the fuck are you shooting?
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Because the bow was
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so flat. Still rolling at that point.
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51:26
He goes, that bow is so flat. What is that? I’m like, this is a ai pound bow. It was the dumbest thing ever.
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I remember you sai to me, he was like, this thing’s preposterous.
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51:35
It was so dumb. It also had a really short brace height, so it was super sketchy. So if you moved your hand, it was so unforgiving that if you move your hand even slightly, you were off target by 6 inches.
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Oh, jeez. Meh.
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51:47
Just Really twitchy. Driving a
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little Tokyo
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drifter around all the time. Was so dangerous. Not dangerous really, but, like, you just wouldn’t Yeah. I wouldn’t trust it. You know? I killed a couple of animals with it and I I stopped trusting. Yeah.
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51:59
You get to put it on the wall and go, like
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52:01
Well, then I went to an 80 pound bow from Hoyt and I was, like, oh my god. This is so meh better. It was ai 15, 20% more accurate. I was like, that thing is just too too sketchy.
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I just got that RX 9, like, last week. Oh, that’s great, Paul. Yeah. It’s I’m shooting 76, but I’m 30 and a half inches. Sai I got pretty good stroke on it.
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52:18
Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. Ai need some extra horsepower at 28 a quarter.
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I need, like I’m shooting ai grain at about 282. So it’s moving out.
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52:30
That’s great. Yeah. That’s the, like, guys like Randy Ulmer. Mhmm. He likes 265 to 280. Yeah. He thinks that, like, that’s that’s the range where the arrows are, like, the most accurate. Mhmm. There’s this thing about having too much fucking whip. Yep. You know, there’s too much and it’s almost like
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Ai much flex on the arrow.
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52:52
Flex on the arrows and it’s probably more subject to wind drift when they’re flexing like that. Mhmm.
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52:57
You know? It’s like ai you used to throw the javelin, there was different rated javelins, and you could be too strong for the jab. And so if you don’t pull through the tip perfectly, just like aerospine. Right. And so you have a 50 50 meter jab, 60 meter jab, 70 meter. And when you start getting strong, you could bend a 50 meter jab like a banana. It’s kinda fun, actually.
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It comes out like, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, like, Lamar from ai, what was it, Revenge of the Nerds?
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53:20
Oh, okay. But yeah. That makes sense that it would be just like arrows.
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Yep. Because you got it.
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53:25
Folks at home, say if you have a 50 pound bow, you could probably get away with a 3 20 green arrow, 3 30, 3 50. So the higher the number, the more flexible the spine of the arrow is and the lighter the arrow will be.
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Right.
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53:41
So I shoot a 250. So it’s ai like a nice stiff Series. Kinetic energy. Yeah. Yeah. If you’re Especially
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how much weight you have in the front creates that more of a flex.
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53:52
Exactly. But it’s to me, it’s all about like, I’ve heard arguments before, like, people say, oh, you don’t need that much bow power. You don’t shut your fucking dirty little skinny mouth. Because the only reason why you would say that is because you can’t pull that back. That’s the only reason.
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54:08
And if you think that £70 to you is the same as £70 to me and you don’t work out, that’s just dumb. That doesn’t make any sense.
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Yeah. It’s like saying, well, you don’t need a £500 deadlift to look. Yeah. But it’s nice.
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54:22
Yeah. But if you can’t squat £500 and you have to squat £500, you can’t do it. I can. So shut the fuck up. It’s it’s
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nice to have in your pocket.
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54:30
Shut your dirty little skinny hole. Yeah. Because all that is is you’re you’re just saying there’s virtue in being speak and that’s stupid. That’s stupid. Do you need, to be able to pull back £80 to kill an elk? No. If you can’t pull back £80 and you’re really accurate with £60 and you have a cut on contact broadhead, you could be successful, but I’m going through that whole animal.
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54:53
Yeah. I’m getting a pass through on a giant animal and you’re probably not gonna.
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54:57
Yeah.
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54:58
And I think that’s it’s more important to be able to have the most ultimately lethal setup possible. I learned this from Cam. He’s my mentor.
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Yep.
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55:07
He’s the guy who taught me how to bow hunt and, you know, his whole thing is he shoots a 90 pound bow as well. It’s ai the most amount of power and you wanna make a big fucking hole.
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Yes.
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55:17
And you want that animal to die like that.
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55:19
Yeah. With with anything, why would more horsepower, if you could handle it, not be advantageous?
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55:24
It’s stupid. That’s why race cars have limits on the amount of power you could have. Yeah. Because it is more advantage, you know, for Formula 1 drivers figured out a way to get a 4000 horsepower engine and have it handled, they would win.
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55:35
They would win.
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55:35
They would win.
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55:36
Like and or or if you could punch 30% harder than everyone else in UFC
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55:40
Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Literally, if Ai Francis Zangano became the heavyweight champion of the world, Fuck. It’s harder than anybody. Yeah. It’s interesting.
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My buddy, Lauren Landau, strength coach, and I was talking to him last speak, and he did a actually, a study on, ground force power into into punching. Mhmm. And they did so they tested it on, ai, a force plate, jump and force plate. And then they, did a Proteus machine. Have you ever seen one of those?
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They kinda like it’s like, you kinda throw it and push it ai of the same thing. So they tested the the power of the punch and then tested ground force, and then they did, squats, but they also did ai a trap bar deadlift. And then the training was a jammer arm ai a, you know, a jammer arm punch, so they had the sequence of force.
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And he had a double digit increase of strength through the, or power through the ground, and it equated to a 12% increase in punching power. So almost almost percent for percent. So you look at that and say, well, if you’re if you’re stronger Yeah. You you squat more or deadlift more now as long as it doesn’t take away from the sport, but that has a a very, very real effect on punching power.
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56:47
Yeah. The the it does the the the way it takes away from the sport is if you’re sore from lifting weights, you’re not gonna train as effectively. That’s just a fact. Like
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Yes. Or it takes too much time away from your technique or
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Yes.
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Injury or what? That’s where steroids come in.
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57:01
And that’s why Gordon Riley can train 365 days a year. He’s open about it. Like, he’s open about his use. Yeah. Because they don’t test for steroids in jiu jitsu. So, you know, he’s a wizard. So he’s ai a tracking test.
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I I I figured that they would Nope. UFC, though, they do. Right?
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UFC, they do. Yeah. But you ever seen Gordon? You ever seen my
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shirt off? Oh, yeah. It’s,
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that ai type. He ain’t passing no tests. Give me a photo one of them photos of Gordon
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looking like a Greek god. He’s he’s squared away.
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57:29
Yeah. I mean, when you have that and then you have a a genius level Ai, and then on top of that Yeah. You the fuck out of this. Pretty typical. This big shit eating grin on his face. And then you have a guy who trains 365 days a year who also works on technique constantly. That’s how you have the greatest of all time.
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Tyler. Yep. Yep.
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57:47
But, by the way, all those guys ai Galval, the guy who’s on the bottom there, he’s on the juice too. It’s a level playing field. They’re all juiced up.
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Right. Right. It was kinda like the, the lifters and the throwers of the eighties. Everyone had a 600 pound bench because that’s what you do. And guess what? You gotta test now.
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58:01
Well, this is a a great argument to this idea of power being necessary, like, with jiu jitsu and grappling. You ai, like, if you have technique like Gordon’s and you’re built like him, yeah, giant advantage. Giant advantage to be super strong always. In all of life, there’s fucking zero advantage of being weak.
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No. There’s never a time where, like, you know what? If I could just get my squat down a bit, that would really pan out for me.
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One thing though that is really important, this this actually really pays off. If you can train with a guy who’s small, like, if you can learn jujitsu with a guy who’s small, you’ll learn the best jujitsu. Why is that? Because they have to use technique. They have to use leverage. Like, you’re a big fucking strong guy. If you learn jujitsu, you you could use that strength.
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58:48
You could squish people’s necks and throw them on the ground and grab their arms and stuff like vatsal. But a small guy can never do that. So if you can learn jiu jitsu from, like, a Barrett Yoshida arya Heuerler Gracie or Eddie Bravo or Yeah. There’s a few of those Gabe Gabe Tuttle who teaches over here at 10th Planet. Small guy jujitsu is the best jujitsu because Yeah.
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59:08
It has to be razor sharp because they don’t have the physical strength to, like, overpower an arm and Yeah. Get you into a certain position just from raw horsepower. They have to, like, sneak it in there with leverage, and they have to do everything perfectly. So those guys, if you learn jujitsu from them, you’re gonna learn, like, the most technical jujitsu.
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59:28
Is that, like, obviously a a reason why you should learn younger when you’re small and weak?
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59:33
Well, it’s always good to learn young because, first of all, it becomes a natural part of your movement. Ai, it’s like as your body matures, your body is it’s I think it’s more important with striking than anything. It’s very rare that someone learns how to strike while they’re already physically mature and can ever reach the level of, like, a Floyd Mayweather. Right.
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59:54
Because that guy, as he was a child, his his body, his reflexes developed striking. Yep. And he’s just got this massive encyclopedia of information that’s available to him. He knows exactly when he sees you do this, he knows that straight left is coming, and he knows all he has to do is do this, and he knows the counter’s gonna be there when you go to look for the right hand afterwards.
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Yeah. He’s just got it all ram. It’s sai. It’s all just ai right in there. For you to build that up after you’re 28, like, you’re gonna be you’re never gonna be at his level.
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You’re not you you you kinda have to unless you’re some physical speak, which do they do exist, you know? Yeah.
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But they what I’ve understood too is the potential for building speed, which is let’s be honest, speed is a big part of power, which is punching. Right? It’s the sequence of force. How do you create force to the ground, explosion of force, not implosion into your arm or your foot or whatever it is.
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That ends at 22. That the potential to develop the potential for speed ends at 22. Yeah. That’s why all the the weightlifters and everyone, gymnasts, everyone has to start young. So when you ai patterns.
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27 and you try, you’ll never
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You won’t reach the potential you could have genetically because you just don’t have this the sequence the speed. Right? It’s it’s the I know how to do this at speed that goes whack, whack, whack through here and I could crack that whip. Yeah. Your body just has it’s done too many other things at lower speed.
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And so You know where I really noticed that? With kicking. And when I teach people kicking, there’s certain things that they have a really hard time doing fluidly.
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Mhmm.
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You don’t want force. The big ones is ai anything that requires spinning. Like, if you look at a good MMA fighter that doesn’t have, like, a taekwondo background and you teach them how to throw a wheel kick, they’ll never be able to throw a wheel kick like like a real taekwondo black belt.
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01:01:52
There there’s certain guys that, like, as they’re young, they’re developing these spinning techniques and they’ve just got it wired in their whole nervous system just and it’s so smooth and fluid that the power is so extraordinary. And, you know, I’ve taught people that were, like, elite MMA fighters and I bryden teach them how to throw things like a spinning back kick for instance.
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01:02:16
And it it takes a long time for them. Even ai Jon Jones is one that he landed like, on on Stipe. That that guy ai a freak. Like, that that guy is, like, what we’re talking about. Like, you can there’s some ai, you could teach them things when they’re in their thirties, and they could develop it ai someone who’s been doing it their whole ai, but that’s that’s a rare exception.
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01:02:37
Another rare exception I was thinking was Alex Pereira. Alex didn’t really start striking until he was, like, 21 years old. He didn’t even start training.
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But my question would be what other things did he do that that ex exaggerate, like like, that developed that speed and power sequence because like You
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01:02:54
know what he did? He worked in a tire shop. Really? Yeah. So he’s ai hoisting tires and hammering Yep. Tires down and setting wheels. Right.
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01:03:03
So you’re learning you’re learning to do the most because if you’re doing for a job, you’re gonna do the most efficient method possible to move an object. Right? Well, you’re also doing that. That tire up there to
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develop rotational strength. Right. You’re throwing hammers down. I mean, he’s doing this 8 hours a day all day long. So, like, think about how many tires he’s hammered. Ai? Yeah. That’s not a training Francis Ngannou, when he was a child, worked in a sand mine. So he’s fucking digging sand all the time.
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01:03:30
Meh just his body’s just as he’s developing. Ai also massive physical specimen. Right? So he’s, like, 66 or ai, whatever he is. 265 natural built like a fucking Greek god, like a statue.
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It’s just
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And his whole body’s developing as he’s a young man digging sand and the anger you have. Like, I can’t believe I have to dig this fucking shit.
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Man. It’s like the wheel of pain. Like, Conan.
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01:03:56
It is like Conan. Yeah. He really is like a guy from a movie in a sand and then becomes a heavyweight champion of the world. He was homeless. Oh, yeah. His his you ever heard his story
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about Oh, yeah. So, buddy of ai, Bo Sandoval used to run the, strength conditioning direct he was a strict conditioning director at UFC. And so he told me about it years years. He’s ai, we got this guy. And I was like, really? He goes, no. This is gonna be a dude.
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And I’m like, really? And he told me his whole story about Cameroon. I’m like living in France and the whole deal. And I became like I never even looked eyes on the guy. I was like, this ai he’s my guy. I wanna like I wanna like him.
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Meh, he’s all over the world.
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Sai him ai, woosh. His life story told on the podcast about making his trek, like, he just decided he has to leave Cameroon and I was ai, what are you gonna do? You can’t go anywhere and he went through the fucking desert Yeah. All the way to Morocco and then gets in a raft and does it 7 different times.
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He gets arrested, gets taken into custody. They bring him into the middle of the desert, drop him off. He goes right back to Morocco, walks through, hitches rides, took him a year and a half.
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If he makes, I don’t care how much money that guy makes. It’s not enough for for just being able to do that. Like, that is so so so How
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about he has one boxing fight? He knocks down the heavyweight champion of the world, the one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time. He hits him with a left hook and drops him and almost won. Like, I thought he won the decision. It was over. I was like, they’re gonna give it to him. I think he won the decision. He was battering him in the 8th round. He dropped him in the saloni.
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I’m like, I think he won. That’s And a lot of people thought he won. Yeah. And he came that close. That fucking close.
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And so is that, like, obviously, genetically super gifted. Right? But then also, like, we’re talking about, like, shoveling and doing all this work. When you do that work for that long, you learn how to become efficient because you don’t wanna spend extra time and effort doing stuff.
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So you just learn how to ai move stuff.
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01:05:44
There’s a little bit of that, and I think to be to be really charitable, I think Tyson Fury probably didn’t think that he had a chance. I think Tyson Fury probably didn’t train as hard as he would have trained if he thought that Francis was a real threat.
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Right.
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I think he probably thought that I’m gonna box this guy’s fucking face off. How could this MMA fighter and then he gets hit with one of them hammers.
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Yeah. Thud. And he’s determined He gets left in
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the side of his head. He’s like, what the fuck did this guy just hit me with? And he’s on his ass as the heavyweight champion of the world, ai a guy with 0 professional fights. That was his first ever pro fight, his saloni ever pro round, and he drops one of the greatest heavyweights in the history of the game.
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01:06:29
You I think my here’s my, Mount Rushmore of heavyweight boxers. Mike Tyson’s number 1. Mike Tyson from 1986 to, like, ai, there was not or 88, whatever it was. It was a few years before the wheels came off because he was just going crazy and partying, fighting with syphilis and shah. He was at he’s a maniac.
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01:06:51
But that guy, the guy who knocked out, like, Michael Spinks Yeah. The guy who knocked out Larry Holmes, the guy who won the title from Trevor Burbank, I think that guy’s the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time. He was a juggernaut meh. The guy who knocked out Marvis Frazier, that’s the scariest version of Tyson ever, the Marvis Frasier version.
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But you saw were, like, probably late high school? Like Yeah. Yeah.
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Ai I
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was, like, a little kid, and I remember, like, walking out ai skateboard, and they’re like,
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did you see the Larry Holmes fight last night?
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I was like, oh, no. But I heard it was, like, 19 seconds or whatever it was.
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01:07:20
It was crazy. All pumped. No. They’re like, Sai was ai like, went a few rounds. Yeah.
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Differently than I did as a kid.
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01:07:25
Yeah. Ai, I was yeah. I was doing a little boxing myself and I was a giant boxing fan. He was a freak. He was a a very unusual thing. Mhmm. Because every other heavyweight was kinda slow and even if they could hit hard, they were lumbering. He was bobbing and weaving and moving and he was a small heavyweight. Wasn’t even 6 feet tall. Yeah. So he’s built like a brick shit house.
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01:07:44
He’s got a 20 inch neck. He’s, £220, moves like a guy who’s 150 Yeah. And he’s throwing lightning bolts at your central nervous system. Just Yep. Blang.
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01:07:55
He’s hitting you to the body and your fucking legs are shutting off. He was a monster. I just think you can’t maintain that forever. Yeah. And I think I I always when I look at fighters, I try to look at them like when they were when they were white hot Mhmm.
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Just burning hot at the highest level that they could achieve. What was that like? Like, what was that? I feel like as great as Muhammad Ali was, man, I just don’t see him surviving.
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I just Not at the height the height?
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01:08:24
No. Ai just I see, like, Henry Cooper dropped Ali when he was back when he was Cassius Clay with a left hook, and they cheated to get him out of the round. Custom auto cut his gloves, so they had to take his glove off and replace the gloves. They gave him all this recovery time. Yeah.
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01:08:41
You ever seen that Henry Cooper fight? Henry Cooper was a bad man. He was this, British boxer, this, guy from England who had a nasty left hook, and he caught Cassius Clay just, bap, perfect one. It is ai meh, and he’s, like, slumped down the ropes. He was Dunsville, but it was at the end of the round, and then Angelo Dundee I mean, that guy had been around the block.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Meh. His spells.
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Cut these fucking gloves. See if you can find that, Jamie, because it’s a it’s a crate it’s a crazy fork in the road in history. Right. Because if they don’t cheat, likely, he gets stopped. Ai, Henry Cooper who landed the perfect left hook hits him with a couple more.
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Right.
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That’s it. He’s done. Right. He looks done already. Like, watch this. Henry Cooper had a nasty left hook, though. Bryden. Look how he’s down there.
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01:09:29
Yeah.
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01:09:30
That’s not regular down. That’s fucked up down. That’s ai real trouble, but it’s the very end of the round. Look at this. Bro. But look how he goes down. That is that’s Dunsville. So that’s a minute earlier if he gets hit with that Yep. The whole thing changes.
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Right.
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The whole thing changes. He’s not undefeated when he fights Sonny Liston. He’s not this unstoppable force.
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Isn’t that crazy? How Crazy. Little.
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And that can happen.
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Yeah.
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And there are fighters that I have seen in the UFC that I go, this guy could be the next fill in the blank. This guy could be the next great welterweight champion, the next great lightweight champion. And then they have one fight and in one fight something happens, they get hit with a flying knee or they get head kicked or something happens
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Yep.
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And then their whole path changes and you’re ai, wow. If that guy wasn’t overmatched, if he didn’t fight that guy so which this is the difference between boxing and the UFC. The UFC is ai when you’re ready come to us and you’re gonna fight the best. Wow. Boxing is like we’re gonna build you. Mhmm.
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01:10:39
We’re gonna take you and you’re gonna fight a few guys that are ai real speak, but they don’t have power, and then you’re gonna fight a big guy with a lot of power, but he doesn’t have any of the orchestrated. Yeah. And they’re ai they’re they’re they’re like, he’s ready for this now.
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01:10:53
You know, if you have a really good trainer ai Tyson Fury’s trainer, Sugar Hill, he’s sana, like he’s analyzing your movements. He’s breaking down things. He’s figuring out what to change, what not to change, when to back you off of training. Like, you’re you’re a little too hot right now. Let’s, like Oh, interesting.
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01:11:10
Let’s not peak too soon Yeah. Because we got 2 weeks before the fight. Sure. I want you to take a day off. Like, take a day off.
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01:11:15
I’m ready to fucking eat nails. No. No. No. No. We gotta we gotta they they know exactly. And then they’re like, he’s ready for this level of competition.
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01:11:24
So they’ll give you a guy that’ll offer you some struggles, some tests. Maybe he’s got a big big punch and, you know, you might lose the fight, but you’re most likely gonna win and this is how you find out if a guy’s gonna make it.
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01:11:35
Right.
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01:11:36
You slowly move them. So there’s a lot of boxers, you know, by the time they’re fighting for the title, they’re 14 and o, 16 and o, 18 and o. Right. Charles Oliveira. I mean, what is Charles Oliveira’s record? Let’s let’s see Charles Oliveira’s record. So Charles Oliveira, when he became the lightweight champion, he had a ton of losses in the UFC. He got stopped by Paul Felder.
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01:11:58
He got stopped by Cub Swanson KO’d him. He got, I think I’m pretty sure Jim Miller knee arya him. So what is his record?
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Jim’s a free ai.
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01:12:09
Look at that. ai and 10. Ai. Okay? And so out of those 10, a few of them have been recently scroll back up to the top, please. So the Islam Makhacheffe loses the title and then Arya Sarukian, he lose a split decision. I thought he won that fight, by the way. But it was close.
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01:12:28
So those are the 2 out of those 10. So that means as a champion, he had 8 fucking losses. Eight losses and some of them brutal knockouts because you’re in there with the ai, with all the lions. Yeah. And so the UFC is ai, who’s the baddest lion?
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01:12:45
Let’s figure it out. Right. Like, you wanna be in the UFC? You win a few fights, we’re gonna throw you in. Or if it’s, you know, last short notice Yeah.
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Short notice fight
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Let’s go.
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01:12:56
And the thing you find out too is that the level at the UFC, as great as some of these guys look in these other organizations, the level at the UFC, that’s the peak. Those are the greatest ai on the planet. There’s no arguing about it. And we found out about that this past weekend because Alessandre Pantosha, who might be the best pound for pound fighter alive. He’s the flyweight champion. Mhmm.
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01:13:20
He fought this dude, Kai Asakura from Japan, who’s a fucking assassin. But Pantosha just ate him ai. Just ate him alive. And he got caught with a couple good shots too, a couple good knees to the body and, you know, Ai Sakaura is a really good fighter, but the level was just different.
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01:13:36
Like, Pantosia just he strangled him. But it’s just the way he did it. I mean, he was fucking him up on the feet. He was fucking him up everywhere. He was just pushing him in this, like, insane pace. You watch those little guys fight. Like, they can they fight like pit bulls, man. Yeah.
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01:13:51
Like, just like wild scrambles where they’re moving so fast. You’re trying to call the fight. It’s ai, meh and Daniel were talking about during the meh. Like, we have to recalibrate our brains. Yeah. Because you won’t go from a heavyweight fight to a flyweight fight. Like, woah.
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01:14:06
It’s like listening to a podcast when you turn it to 1.5. Yeah. I actually had to start listening to your podcast at regular speed because I was I thought you talked really fast. Ai was just like, oh, Joe. No one talks that fast because I listened to it super fast.
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01:14:20
Somebody sent me a clip of, someone some political person talking about one of the guests on the shah, and I was like, what is wrong with the clip? Then I had to realize, like, oh, they got it on speed it up version.
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01:14:30
Do you listen to stuff speed it up? Never. Never. A buddy of mine taught me that. He he listens to books. He got up to 44 x.
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01:14:37
And so he just downloads absorbing it the same way?
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01:14:40
I think if you’re kinda like Rain Man, which I’m not.
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I’m not.
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But I could go 15 pretty easy and I could I could just get through it faster.
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01:14:47
Yeah. I see how that could help, but for me, I’m I’m not doing reading the books on tape or listening to books on tape for anything other than my own enjoyment and Yeah. Education. So for me, I’m enjoying it. Yeah. So I like to think about the things and I’ll have more time to think about what this person is saying if if they’re not going at 1 and a half speed.
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Because if they’re going at 1 and a half speed and going one concept to the next, then Ai, like, wait a minute. I don’t understand what you’re Sure. Then I have to back up. Yeah. I like to think about stuff.
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So it’s,
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like, especially if I’m listening to something esoteric or really weird.
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Yeah. You know?
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01:15:22
Makes sense. Which is a lot of the stuff that I listen. If I’m not listening to fiction, I’m probably listening to a book on physics or something.
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01:15:28
Yeah. I listen to Jack Carr stuff at regular speed because I really just enjoy the books.
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01:15:32
Oh, that ai, what is his name? Who’s the guy who does his, ai The guy’s really good. Yeah.
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01:15:38
I can’t remember. He has a lot of good, dialects and everything. Yeah. Jack, texted me this morning. He said ai. He’s the man. He’s awesome.
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01:15:45
I love that. Did you see our he’s got we’re cross tomahawks on the wall.
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Oh, for sure.
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01:15:49
I love it. Yeah. He’s like,
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01:15:50
hey, Joe Jonas said hi.
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01:15:51
I love that dude. Yeah.
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He’s salt
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01:15:53
of the earth. Yeah.
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01:15:53
We just got him some CMBs Ray Ray Porter. With the
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01:15:56
Ray Porter. Yeah. Ray Porter. I knew it was a Ram.
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Across Tomahawks on there.
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01:16:00
He’s the fucking man. And, the thing about his books on tape though is you’re locked into Ray Porter forever. Some new person starts
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reading screwed.
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01:16:09
Like, who is this guy? This is bullshit. Yeah. You can’t you can’t have this guy doing it. The ai amazing. I’m used to all the voices. Ai Africa accent.
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01:16:21
Yeah. I know. It’s it’s
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01:16:22
You know who else is really good? Who’s the guy who does The Gray Man series? Mhmm. There’s a guy who does I’ve you ever listened to The Gray Man series? I’m so addicted. Really? Ram Mark Graney writes them. They’re so ultra violent.
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01:16:34
They’re so fucking crazy. They’re so crazy. It’s about a CIA hitman. Oh. It was ai a Singleton guy and they sana all around.
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01:16:41
Dude, it’s so like, they made a movie about Is it
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01:16:43
ai one of the weird ones who gave you, like, you think about it all ai? Kinda like Oh, yeah. When I would start watching The Sopranos, like, my view on the world would change.
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01:16:51
Jay Snyder. That guy is really good. He does really good girl voices to it. It’s weird. But, those fucking books, man, they are so ultra violent. They’re so crazy. They’re so crazy, like, ai I listen to them and I have to shut them off before I go to bed. Like, if I listen to them, like, I like to take the sauna before I go to bryden.
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01:17:09
And so if I’m listening to, like, you know, a book on cosmology, that’s great. It’s interesting. Yeah. Go to bed and think about space. That’s very cool.
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But if I’m listening to some Gray Man before I go to bed, I’m like, I’m gonna shut
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this off. Yeah. We don’t need that. You know? We don’t need that in the house.
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Yeah. People getting their fucking eyeballs like a giant sword shoved through their eyeballs getting blown up, grenades in their mouth, like, hey.
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Hey. Yeah. Hey. It was just
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Hey. Hey. Hey.
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Do you do you, like, scroll around? You’re not supposed to look at your phone before you go to bed. I I always just I I like look up ballistics. My wife’s like, what are you doing? And I was like, she’s it’s like ai Well,
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that’s good. That’s not social media. That’s good.
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Well, I do it because I actually could think about stuff and it doesn’t matter. I have to look at something that doesn’t matter. Mhmm. Like, if I look at, like, a good Right. Don’t check an email. Right. Right. Right. Right? Like and I’ll tell my wife, she’s like, hey.
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I got a question for us. Like, the lights are off. Don’t ask questions right now. Like, I’ll be all night, I’ll be thinking of this problem I have to solve. Yeah. So, like, I’ll just sit there. I’m like, hey.
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I wonder what the ballistic coefficient of a 350 Remington Magnum is.
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By the way, anybody with a beard like yours, I would assume they know the ballistic coefficient of a 3 it’s ai, they see a dude with a beard like that, he’s kinda jacked. I’m like, that guy knows how to shoot some things. Yeah. A 100 milligram. I’m just like, oh, yeah. So you would be Probably loads his own bullets. Yeah.
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I’d be
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about a 9 inch drop at 300. Interesting. Okay. I’ll keep that in mind.
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01:18:32
Yeah. You probably load your own rounds.
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Yeah. Well, you know.
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Yeah. I bet you do. I meh you get them in presses.
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01:18:37
Pops used to be really, really into that. Thankfully, I know the guys at Nosler, so they just sana me ammo which is nice.
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01:18:43
I’ve made the mistake of looking at social media before I go to bed and I get mad or I get upset or I get sad or Yeah. Ai out some weird shit that’s going on in the world. Yeah. And when I was younger, I’d read things that people would say about me and Ai be like, oh meh god, ai, what is this asshole? That’s not true.
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01:18:59
And you get all upset and then I realized, like, wait. This is just some person. Like, I Sai wouldn’t talk to them in real life. Like, what do I get? Ai is their opinion more valid because it’s written down? So then Ai stopped reading all comments about me and, oh, my god.
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It changed everything. Mhmm. Changed everything.
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You do the post sana ghost. Right?
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Yes. It’s the way to go. Ai I have friends and they’ll come to me, like, they’ll come to the comedy club or something and they’ll be, like, genuinely emotionally distraught because people are attacking them online. Sai go, but they’re not here. Like, right here, your friends are here, and you’re all freaked out because I know I gotta stop reading that stuff.
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I go, you gotta stop reading that stuff. First of all, it’s not true. You’re really funny. You’re a great guy. Right.
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So it’s all bullshit, and they don’t know you. Right. So they’re just deciding to do this and they know that it fucks with you because you talk openly about it. And so now they’re gonna accentuate it. They’re gonna, yeah, they’re gonna keep jabbing at you. They’re gonna rock. There’s a window. Yeah.
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They’re the cheap they’re in the cheap seats. We’re ripping
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them there. You gotta stop doing that, man. And a few guys have listened to me and a few guys haven’t. And the guys have listened to me, they all say the same thing. Like, oh meh god. I feel so much better. I’m ai, yeah. Social media is not the problem.
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01:20:06
The problem is either engaging in the anger and the hate or having reading people’s anger and hate towards you and having it fuck your head up. Like, hey. Do you
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think it’s something that’s, like, systemic that that is literally spreading and and and growing? Like, the people that put that type of trash out all the time and then they think there’s some sort of value to that and then other people see
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01:20:27
it and then value. Right? They do get engagement. Right? And if you’re a person that has, like, a YouTube show where all you do is shit on people, you have bad karma for sure. You for sure, you’re suffering. Rest of
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your life, like, dealing
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that poison. You can
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make a living doing that. Like, there
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are guys who make a living doing that. They’re all fucked up. Yeah. I’m not saying there’s value in it, but I do think you make something out you can create a career doing that. That’s part of the problem is that it’s effective.
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Right. Like the trolls.
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Yeah. Like Trolls and It does get engagement. But then, you know, that you’re what kind of engagement are you getting? Look, I have people that hate me on but not the ones who know me. Right. That’s what’s kind of important. Yeah. Like, the people that know me either in real life or through the podcast know I’m a nice person. Right. I work really hard at it. I’m like, sure.
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I’m actually I try hard to be a nice person. It’s not like it’s a conscious effort. I’m good at it. I I like doing it. I like nice people.
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I like being a nice person. Makes me feel good. Yeah. So I don’t engage. I don’t fire back at people.
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Ai don’t I don’t, you know, when people meh mad at me, I’m like, even celebrities have attacked me online. Ai like Yeah.
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How’s that feel? Like, probably being in that world a bit more and then now having people turn on you probably feels strange. Yeah. Perfect.
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01:21:46
They’re just they’re just revealing who they are. They’re just weak. They’re just weak people. They’re not the type of person that if you did that in front of me when you’re around me, we could have a conversation about why I feel like you’re incorrect. And this assumption that you have of me is totally wrong.
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And, also, if you’re not talking to someone in in person and you’re saying something about that person, like, you don’t you could just kind of, like, form some bullshit narrative. Of course. The person’s right there. They’ll go, that’s not true. That that that’s why so you’re saying something and if it was true, then you’d be justified in your anger.
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But what you’re saying is not true and you’re taking things completely out of context Right. And you don’t know what you’re talking about. And you’re doing this because your life sucks. And it’s the only time you do it. That’s what I said. Do you think Michael Jordan is posting on YouTube?
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Is he making comments? No. When he was in if YouTube was around when Michael Jordan was the king, would he be doing that? No. He doesn’t have time because he’s being a winner.
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Because he’s actually winning and
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doing Yeah. 100%. Ai Sai guarantee you, Michael Jordan reads the comments. And if he did read the comments, he’d be up all ai. Anger. You ai? Like, you saw that that Neil, Neil Brennan had a bit about Michael Jordan’s documentary on his last Netflix special. It’s pretty funny.
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It’s ai, unless you wanna be the greatest basketball player of all time. He goes, you know, don’t hold grudges unless goes, you want don’t hold grudges unless you you wanna have a $150,000,000 worth of passive income every year because it’s a fucking silhouette of you dunking unless unless.
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It’s a it’s a good unless. But, again, those are freaks. Right? Yep. These are the outliers. Yeah.
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These are the people, like, as a rule, as a human being, that’s not the way to
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go. Insatiable desire to, like, just hammer that nail until it’s just so far down in the woods. It’s ai, I don’t know what you’re doing anymore, but yeah, man.
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How you become the greatest of all time. You you
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leave no question.
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01:23:38
It’s just the difference in that in, sport versus that in fighting, though, is in ai, you could I don’t think you can maintain it. No. Ai, a guy like Jordan, how long was he in his prime? It was a decade.
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Right? Yeah.
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A deck for a decade, he was dominating the basketball. Wild. You can’t really do that in fighting. You you think it just John Jones is the only one who’s been able to do it.
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It just takes so much aggression, so much damage, so much damage. Body.
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You know, the damage to your body is huge. Yep. Because there’s so much damage that happens just in training. Sure. I mean, John tore his peck off of his fucking shoulder in training.
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Just yeah. And that wasn’t getting
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hit. That was Wrestling. That was
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And then there’s the the impacts that you get and then there’s the, you know, the back stuff, you know, you get thrown weird, you land on your back weird, you you you’re throwing someone, a knee hits you weird, you know, your ribs break all the time, hands break all the ai. Like, common gym injuries, knee blows out, noses, everybody’s got a broken nose. I don’t know anybody who does any kind of combat sports that hasn’t broken their nose.
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Sai there’s, like, you after a while, you can’t breathe out of your nose. Your nose is destroyed. Your fucking hand hurts when you try to, like, open your car door
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Yeah. And
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you have to punch people in the head with it. Your your knee hurts going downstairs. Kamaru Usman, you wanna hear something crazy? When he walks, he has to walk backwards downstairs because his knees are so bad.
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Oh, because he can’t get the knee over the toe.
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His knee hurts so bad. And he’s he was a welterweight champion of the world with those knees. And he was talking about it openly. He was like, oh, you know, you can know you can know my knees are bad. I’m still gonna fuck you up. And he did. He fucked everybody up forever. It’s coming. To Leon Edwards. But his knees are so bad that he would have to walk on the grass where everybody was, like, walking on the sidewalk. Loud.
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He’d have to go over to walk on the grass because just take a little bit
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of relief. Cushion.
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Just something. Yeah. Bone on bone, man. Yeah. Bone on bone.
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Meh. Well, it’s like the gate ai the operators, like, you know, guys are jumping out of Oh, yeah. Ai, all of them are jacked up.
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All of them.
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01:25:41
Everyone in the strength world, everyone’s low back, everyone’s shoulder, everyone’s knee.
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Everyone in jujitsu, everyone’s got a back problem, everyone’s got a neck problem. Just part of Everyone blows a knee out. Yeah. That’s part of it. Yeah. And if, you know, Eddie always used to say, look, you’re gonna have to get surgery eventually. You only have to get surgery.
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Just get the surgery, heal up, come back. You’re not gonna stop there.
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01:26:00
Are we yeah. We rebuilding this engine and keep erasing or is this, like, doing this least as you can to not get surgery?
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My second surgery, I went to his doctor, and when I had a bucket handle meniscus tear, so it would lock. You ever have one of those where it locks out? It was fucking brutal. And, he was ai, you’ve gotta stop doing martial arts. Ai go, shut the fuck up.
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I go, you don’t know
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what what you’re talking about. This? I go, fix this. I go he’s like, when you’re older. I’m like, yeah, when I’m older. Well, right now, I’m 30 years old. Fix my fucking knee. I gotta go strangle people. What are you talking about? Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? Stop doing this. Yep.
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I’m not gonna stop doing this.
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01:26:35
Same thing. I was 22 when I had vatsal, and I had an Olympic trial in 2 years.
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01:26:39
I was like Too much fun.
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I was like, yeah. No. Like, no. And I before I went in there, I was like, I’ve squatted this much ai I do this. When I come out of it, I expect to be back there. So fix it like that. Don’t fix it like I’m an old guy taking her easy and ai, I’m young.
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I got I got shit too. Do they fix it differently depending on ai who you are? I
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don’t know. I just felt better if I sai saying that.
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01:27:00
I tell you what, they do get they got a lot better.
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I assume they would actually fix you. Maybe they wouldn’t fix normal.
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Well, I tell everybody, if you have an opportunity to get, ACL reconstruction, please at least try the cadaver graft. Ai know a lot of people wanna do that patella tendon graft because you don’t have the risk of rejection. I don’t know anybody who’s had a rejection from the, cadaver. I do know people who have pushed it too hard, too early, and then re blown it.
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Because you know how it works? Do you know what happens?
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I’m not familiar.
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01:27:30
It’s really kind of interesting. You get this so my right knee, when I blew my ACL out, they take a cadaver. Like, I have a dead dude’s Achilles bryden, which is much thicker. I don’t know his name. I was a ai Francis Agato. Yeah. You’re ai,
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01:27:47
there’s some studs.
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01:27:48
Just fucking animal. Just giant Viking dude. So it’s, it’s thicker than the it’s a 150% stronger than a real ACL. Ai so they screw that in place, and then it’s not like you have this dead guy’s thing in there forever. What happens is your body re proliferates. It acts as a scaffolding. So it can feel like it’s secure, but it’s really vulnerable. Oh.
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01:28:10
So you have to be super careful up until, like, that 6 month mark
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when
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it should be re proliferated.
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And so does the does the foreign tissue eventually just kinda get reabsorbed
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which is
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kinda weird?
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01:28:22
Exactly. You you eat that dead guy’s Achilles with your knee.
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My my knee is just munching these dead dudes.
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01:28:28
Meh, I’ve had no problems with this knee. This right knee is amazing. The left knee, I had a patella tendon graft and, because I I had that one done in ai or 94. And that one back then, that’s the only way they did it, but it was really good. It but it took a long time to heal.
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01:28:46
Like, it was a long time before I could kneel down on the ground. Like, if I had to kneel down and put my feet on
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01:28:51
the ground. Flex? Because
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01:28:52
they take a piece of bone out of your shin Mhmm. And they take a piece of bone out of your kneecap, and then they take a slice out of your patella tendon. They pull that off, and they open you up like a fish, and they fucking drill it into your shin bone and drill it into your fibula. Love that.
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01:29:06
Your your tibia and your, femur rather. Yeah. And it’s ai Wrap it over. They get it in there. And then it’s ai a year before it feels like you could do anything with it.
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It took a while before I felt like I really trusted it, but I do have to say I was not as diligent with my rehabilitation back then as I was when I got this one done. With this one, I was I rehabbed it all myself. Mhmm. I didn’t I went to, like, 1 or 2 of these things. Ai, like, they’re just showing me things I already know how to do. Like, I know what to do. I’m just gonna do this. I’m gonna do it all this.
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01:29:36
So I sai doing bodyweight squats, like, all day long. Yeah. And I got it to 6 Blood,
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01:29:40
blood, blood.
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6 months later, I was training again. Full blast.
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01:29:42
No problems. Were you doing any, like, the BPCs or any of the peptides?
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01:29:45
There was nothing available back then.
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Oh, well, back then.
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01:29:48
So this was 2003
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Okay.
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That I got this one done. Nice. And this was the patella this was the cadaver rather.
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01:29:54
How do you think the recovery would have worked for us, like, with all these dings and injuries? Because I’ve had a I’m sure you probably have too. A couple of friends that got surgery that actually the doctor hit them ai injection and even IV with BPC 157 during the the reattachment of a speak or a bicep or something.
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01:30:11
Super legit. It’s super legit along with TB ai. Yep. Apparently, that combination of those 2 together is the most effective. Yeah. Yeah. Super effective. And, you know, there’s a lot of people that resist that for some strange reason. Ai? I don’t know. I think I think there’s a bit of ego involved in not knowing something when you’re an expert. Mhmm.
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01:30:33
I find that with, there’s a real problem with, unfortunately, some orthopedic surgeons. Aaron Rodgers was explaining this to me that his doctors were telling him not to do stem cells after he got his Achilles fixed. He’s ai, what are you talking about? Yeah. Like, shah the fuck up. And so, of course, he did stem cells. Of course, he went to ways to well.
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01:30:55
And, of course, he was back 3 months earlier than they thought he could ever be. Yeah. And, you know, there was, like, some real thought at the end of that season that he was probably gonna be able to play Yeah. Where everybody’s like, this is nuts. Like, nobody recovers from this stuff.
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But he was very smart and he didn’t push it
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too far.
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01:31:11
Yep. And he’d
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wait until Actually followed Brigham and all the stuff.
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01:31:14
But, yes, stem cells work. There’s a reason why you have to go down to Tijuana to get the good ones because it’s they fucking ai.
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01:31:20
And Like anything that works. It’s like you’re not allowed to do it anymore. Biden.
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01:31:24
It is fucking Really helped sell out. ai, that cock sucker.
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01:31:28
He really did. I was talking to a a strength conditioning professional the other day at the administrative level. We were just talking about different things going. I said, yes. Ai, you know, I said there’s people in my opinion in your world that that don’t know about BPC 157. He didn’t know about BPC, and I’m just like Crazy.
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01:31:45
Ai I’m I’m like, okay. I was taking it 8 years ago.
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01:31:49
You know what it is though? It’s like they don’t continue to learn. That was my point. And then they’re in practice all day. They’re constantly working on people. Yep. People are coming in the door. This guy blew his ankle out. This guy’s got a fucking blown shoulder. Yeah.
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01:32:01
Yeah. But then and I ai the weird part is is is you have a strength conditioning professional. And and in some ways, there’s more information cutting edge on a podcast from guys that are interested in training Right. Than there are from, like, the the the you know? And I’m just like, hey, guys. Just open this the scope a little bit.
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01:32:20
Like
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01:32:20
Well, there’s enough of these guys that are super smart and also jacked. Ai, these Andrew Huberman guys. Yeah. And and and super smart guys that are in the bodybuilding world. Sure. Super smart guys like, like Derek from More Plates, More Plates. He’s the best example because he’s just a fucking encyclopedia of data and studies and efficacy and what you’re how you combine things together.
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01:32:43
And he actually runs a clinic, so he he really knows what he’s doing.
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01:32:46
You get the boots on the ground. You see it in real time. Yeah. This, My doc is, Eric Serrano. I don’t know if you know doc Serrano. He’s up in in in Columbus, but, you know, everyone has gone to him over the last 30 years. But he’s one of those dudes that has, like, a base
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01:33:01
in Ohio? Columbus, Ohio. Yeah. That’s where Louie was.
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01:33:04
Exactly. He was Louie’s doctor. Sai yeah.
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01:33:06
He was
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he was Louie’s. He was, you know, you you go through all professional baseball. It’s ai, okay. Got it. Tracking.
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01:33:11
He’s one of the rare guys that, we went to him to do a podcast.
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01:33:15
How was that?
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01:33:16
Oh, it was awesome.
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01:33:17
Did you go to Bob Evans with him?
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01:33:18
No. We just we we hung out in his gym. Yeah. You know, and he, he just was introduced me to a bunch of freaks and showed me all the stuff that he invented and why invented it.
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01:33:28
Sai cool.
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01:33:29
Louis Simmons, he was the fucking man. He was so funny. He was so funny. He was such a character. He was telling me about how he got his shoulder blown, got his shoulder, replaced. And then immediately, when he got back to the gym, they made a max out bench. And I was, like, what are you talking about? You need to recover.
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01:33:44
It’s ai, don’t they were, like, don’t be a pussy. Yeah. You have to max out.
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01:33:47
Yeah. I was there in 2002, and so Louie and his ai, Doris, and they would always you always meet the Bob Evans in the morning, and he would eat and would, like, do the whole deal. And he was telling me a story about how he had a he got he got pissed off, and he couldn’t something to his cell phone, he threw it out the window while he was driving.
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01:34:05
And then sai he meh didn’t have a cell phone for a couple weeks. And then he got to the gym and he missed a lift and he punched his own tooth out, punched himself so hard he knocked his own tooth out and then took a ai brush that you, like, cleaned the chalk out of a barbell and smashed himself on the head.
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And he was just poor. His wife was like, yeah. Lou was pouring blood, and he knocked the tooth out. And I’m just thinking, west side was awful. Holy crap.
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01:34:28
So I got talking to him, and he was like
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01:34:30
Ai had no biceps.
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01:34:31
Yeah. Right. Because he blew them out.
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01:34:33
They just never got it fixed.
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01:34:34
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of those ai. Same yeah. It’s wild. But he was like, yeah. Those cats would they’d ai, and he goes, we would literally like, is there some some some tuned up dudes in there? I he said that we would just literally kick them out the door if they were fighting on the floor.
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01:34:49
We would kick them out of the way sai they’re out of the way of the monolith so we could keep squatting. Like, every 30 seconds, you’re up or 90 seconds, whatever. It’s like, I don’t care if you’re fighting literally, hitting each other with stuff. Move the next guy up. And, like, this place is wild.
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01:35:04
They created some fucking animals.
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01:35:06
Here’s a wild story. So we were there, and, this this drunk chick came in. She was like because it this was the old west side. It was like in this little shopping center with all the windows were all blacked out and everything. It was pretty dope. And this drunk chick walked in.
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01:35:19
She was like, sai. Y’all working out here. And she was tuned, man. She
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01:35:24
was she
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was ai all sloppy, like legit street person. Right? And And I’m like, oh, this is gonna go bad. Like, I’m just I’m just reading the room. Right? Like, there’s a it was not a lot of estrogen in that room. Right? So I’m like, oh, meh. This is gonna be bad. It was like, hey. Hey.
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01:35:41
Come here. Come here. Come here. So he puts a a a weight vest on her and then puts a saloni weight vest, a ai, 20 volts, a 50 pound weight vest and takes her outside, wraps a, a belt around her waist with a sled and had her walking doing sled pulls back and forth with a weight £50 of weight vest on her shoulders, drunk.
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Drunk as shit. And I’m just like I was ai, watch them. Like, what? She comes back in.
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He’s like, alright. Come over here. He puts her
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on the monolith, 2 red bands. Well, it’s maybe just the bar. Wasn’t a lot of weight on
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there.
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And had her doing speed box squats, 8 sets of 2 for speed. It was teaching her how to box squat. She finally stumbles out and just leaves. And, like, later on, I’m like, Lou, did you know that girl? I guess, no. I’m like, she was just some random street person and you had her squatting.
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Meh goes, shit. Half the people in this room were that person a year ago. I’m like, oh, he goes, shah could be world champion. You never know.
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Wow.
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And I was just like,
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that would that that’s What a crazy mentality.
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That stuck with me for so long. He’s like, most of these people are broken and they have some addictive thing and something. And he goes, if they could channel it into something, that might be the next world champion.
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Wow.
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And and I don’t know if you ever saw her again or if I if I was just there that one day and it stuck with me for, shoot, 22 years. And I just thought about that. I’m like, he put his money where his mouth was. He was a coach, and he wanted to see what could what’s could someone do.
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You know, that’s so interesting because one of the guys who trained with Louie was Matt the Immortal Brown. Matt the Immortal Bryden. I know he did some training with him. And I’ve always said that there’s something about guys that used to be addicts Mhmm. That have, like, died and Matt ai, and there’s been a few ai shah I know that that came back from ram they were the scariest fucking people because they had crossed over and then they ai, like, there’s a good addiction.
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The good addiction is to training. Yep. Just be completely addicted to training. And sai those arya some of the fucking scariest It was dudes.
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It was wild. I mean, I know I know a lot of those guys from that world and a lot of them are addicted to different stuff. And, unfortunately, they get into training and then if they get out of it, it ai of that addiction might pass
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might come back. That happens with fighters when they when they retire. Mhmm. And then also they’re generally dealing with some issues mentally Yeah. Impacts, you know. And so a lot of those guys start drinking. Sai arya doing coke.
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I always loved how how Louie just saw it differently. And my my dad was the same way. Like, he used to always say, look for something not of what it is, but what it can be. Yeah. And and that would that meant human potential, that meant designs, that meant, like, application of stuff. And it’s just ai, yeah, that person’s whatever.
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But if you push and you you tweak and you push and you tweak, there might be something in there that’s like super beautiful and awesome. But you never know if you just said that’s a drunk chick that walked in the gym.
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Well, it’s crazy with him because he’s actually done it a bunch of times and it worked. Right? Weird. So this attitude is developed over time to just accept the fact that this person might come in 16 Coors Ai Deep. Dude.
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01:38:46
Just just tuned. Just tuned,
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you know, but and I took
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a buddy of mine, he he trained at Ai and he said I mean, half the time he said there’s he’s ai, I’ve seen guys bench £700, like, on acid, Like, just freaked out of their mind. It’s just ai wild stuff. And I’m like, holy cow. Like, that whole world’s wild. Yeah. Like, you had an old, Ai mean, that’s a whole world, like, is so extreme. Right?
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01:39:11
The fighting world, the the lifting, the throwing, like, dudes who do some pretty wild stuff.
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Yeah. Well, and whenever you get ai these male oriented alpha characters that all get together and they’re all butting heads and trying to figure out who’s the baddest motherfucker around them, They they also develop, like, a culture of, like, acceptance of certain aspects of life that come with, like, the injuries and pain and suffering and, you know, like, wrestlers, they’re they, like, brag on suffering the most.
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01:39:41
They wanna suffer more than anybody. They’re, ai, that’s the badge of honor is sai Yep. What time did you get up? 4:30. I was on my 14th mile at 4:30. You know, like Yeah.
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Just drag you into deep water. Let’s make it worse.
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01:39:52
That’s the part of the culture of wrestling is embracing the grind. That’s the whole thing. It’s ai being the guy who can push, being that Cam Haines motherfucker that does those 340 mile runs.
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01:40:04
Is because I think I’ve read before. Is this accurate that the highest winning percentage in the UFC were all from the wrestling background? Is that accurate?
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01:40:12
I’d probably say that’s probably accurate. I Ai think if you had to see if you had to see, like, what’s the back I’ve always said that’s the foundation of martial arts because the wrestler can decide where the fight takes place. Uh-huh. A wrestler, generally, mentally, they’re gonna be tougher because they went through the hardest thing when they were a child. Mhmm. The hardest thing as a child is wrestling.
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01:40:33
You’re starving yourself when you’re growing, you know, you’re dehydrating yourself before matches, you’re training and competing dehydrated, you’re in a fucking hot room, you know, clashing with other alpha males and you’re throwing each other around. It’s just the hardest thing.
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You can stuff infections
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every once in a while. But that skill is so important. Yeah. The skill to be able to manipulate bodies and take them down. And if you could teach a wrestler jiu jitsu, oh, my god. They’re so much better at it because they’re just so accustomed. It’s just they just have to learn a new series of movements to go with the skill set Right. That they already they they’re great at controlling bodies.
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Yeah. And just the proximity. Ai, people aren’t good with being all up in people and they’re like, yeah, I live here.
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They live there. And then the other thing is, if you could teach a wrestler how to strike, they have such an advantage because you can’t take them down and you’re worried about them taking you down, so that opens you up to certain shots. It happens all the time where guys are worried about a takedown and they get blasted. Yeah.
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Because there’s they’re thinking this guy could take me down at any moment ai then you get hit. It happens all it’s like another element that they put in that you have to you have to deal with that they don’t have to deal with. They’re not worried about you taking them down. You’re not even gonna try. So they don’t they could be completely relaxed with their takedown defense.
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01:41:49
That’s terrifying.
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01:41:50
They yes. Horrible. Ai never been elite wrestling fucking horrible.
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I’ve even seen, like, elite wrestlers even in business and stuff like that. You could always it always feels like they’re trying to shoot in on you. Right. Right. They’re looking for the weakness ai to shoot in. You’re like, this is just kinda in you,
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01:42:05
Well, they also know that they can. You ai, you’re walking around knowing that you could pick up any guy you want, dump them on his head. Yeah. And most likely, they’d have no sai in it. Like, there’s nothing they can do.
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You don’t get to vote.
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Yeah, man. If you’re, like, if if you’re around a judo black belt and you’re wearing a winter coat, you might as well have a hammer, like, right above your ram. Because that guy’s just gonna you don’t use that coat and slam you into the concrete. You’re basically helpless. Yeah.
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If you don’t know judo and you tangle up with, like, a real judo black belt, you’re gonna fly through the air, and you’re gonna land on the ground with all of his weight and your weight on top of you. And even if you don’t bang your head, your your whole body is gonna be out of air. You’re not gonna you don’t know how to land. No.
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You’re gonna land it. Especially ai
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a guy’s controlling this fast.
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Sana shoulder right into you as he lands. Boom. You’re fucked. You’re fucked. So that guy is gonna look at every person like meat.
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01:43:01
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I never realized how effective a gi choke was until Hoist gi choked me. That was my first ever I was like, yeah. I’ll try jiu jitsu. Mhmm. And he did, like, a clinic. He’s like, come on up for this thing. And my buddy is on me trying to do the thing, and then I thought hoist put me in, like meh the old thing with, like, the paper cutters?
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Oh, yeah. Pretty sure that was what he has for a forearm. And I’m like, way different. Yeah. My big buddy that’s my sai, hoist is way different than that.
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It’s
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leverage and technique.
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01:43:32
Ai was
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01:43:33
It’s tying that shoe.
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01:43:34
It was ai his arm and sai many scissors.
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01:43:36
It was
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just like, this is amazing. Like, it’s so cool to see perfection. Right?
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01:43:40
Yeah. Well, that’s the other thing about coats and jackets or even a hoodie. You could choke someone so easy with a hoodie.
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01:43:46
Really?
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Just get your thumbs and teeth and squeeze it. Yeah. You could choke the shit out of somebody if you grab somebody with a hoodie.
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01:43:52
Ai just
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drew them in. Especially, like, like, Ai sai, a leather coat, like a leather
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coat or a windy coat.
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01:43:59
Yeah. You
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01:44:00
get a good grip. Grip. So what do you gotta wear, Jack? What do you gotta wear or not? Oh, yeah.
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01:44:04
Oh, I took the fuck
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out of somebody with a tuxedo. You got top and bottom denim.
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01:44:08
Jay Leno, you’re in trouble. That jean shirt, that thing’s durable. You know why they’re durable around your neck? You want some shit that tears easy. Like, you want a shirt that already has cuts in it. Like,
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01:44:20
you’re preloaded.
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01:44:21
He should, like, preload the back of your shirt, make some cuts in
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01:44:24
it just in case someone grabs you. Yeah.
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01:44:26
Because, someone someone can just grab your t shirt. There’s actually, a Gracie self defense thing that was on that I was looking at the other day. It was a really smart move where, this woman was showing that you can grab a hold of someone’s t shirt if you’re a woman and you’re getting attacked by a man.
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01:44:43
Just grabbing ahold of their t shirt and then getting your legs around their neck. No way. You’re you’re jamming your carotid artery their carotid arteries with your thumb while you’re holding the t shirt and squeeze with your legs. You could put a guy out, especially a guy that doesn’t know what’s happening and doesn’t know how to protect himself.
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01:45:00
I try I don’t know how to do
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01:45:01
that. That’s not it, but it was, she was on her back. It was on YouTube. I tried one of
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those things. Like that one ai. I was goofing around with my buddy. We call him the Sai. He’s an absolute just monster of a human. And, he and I were goofing around and I was on my back and, like and so I kinda, like, got him the little, like, ai, a flick of leg scissors on his head and I grabbed his arya.
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I’m, like, I’m gonna pull his arm off. Like, I’m a big strong deadlifter. Ai, like, I got him. I finally got him. He was ai, 62, ai all at looked like Gordon, but, like, bigger and stronger. And he literally just I thought he was going out, and he kinda went, shah?
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And woke up, and he picked me up while I was hanging up and then just slammed me down on the ground ai, man, screw this.
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01:45:44
Yeah. You can’t do that.
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People could do that to people ai, no. No one could stand up with a person hanging off them and slam them back on
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01:45:50
the ground.
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His leg. You gotta underarm the leg. I didn’t know that. Yeah. I just got clobbered.
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01:45:54
You wanna see the worst worst version of that ever? Rampage Jackson versus Riccardo Saloni. Did you ever see that in Ai? It’s the worst case scenario of holding on to, like, a triangle while a guy picks you up.
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Yep.
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And Rampage in his prime was a fucking machine. He was sai powerful. So he takes this dude who’s 200 plus pounds, hoists him over his head, and slams him down with a pill. So look at this. So he’s caught in the triangle. Watch how Rampage does this.
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01:46:26
Meh. Bro.
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01:46:26
I ai That was one of the worst KOs in the history of the sport. I mean, that dude could’ve definitely could’ve died. He probably got the worst ram. Yeah. The worst brain trauma.
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01:46:37
Did he knee himself in the face too?
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01:46:39
He I think Rampage collided heads with him as well. So it was probably a bunch
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01:46:43
of shah. Ai all kinds. I think right there is
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01:46:45
No.
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Slashing his guts and
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01:46:47
Yeah. So we hit his shoulder. But Rampage’s head went into his. This this is a crazy ram, man. Look at that. Ba boom.
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01:46:56
Mine was not nearly as devastating, but it was enough to maybe not wanna do that again.
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01:47:00
That was the worst. And this guy was never the same again. Ricardo O’Rourke was never the same again. That is such a crazy sai that all could have been avoided. Like, that’s not what you do. When when you have a triangle, if you see a guy posturing up, you immediately go under.
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01:47:16
Oh. Okay. It kinda locks him in.
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01:47:17
If he’s got you in the air, you let go of the fucking triangle. The thing that’s holding him in there was him. He’s holding himself in there.
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01:47:24
Yeah. So he was the pinnacle.
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01:47:25
Because sometimes you can keep it. Right? Sometimes you can keep a triangle and you get slammed and it just makes the triangle tighter. But you gotta know when you’re way up in the air. You gotta let go. Yeah. You gotta fully let go and then try to sprawl. Something has to happen.
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01:47:42
You have to disrupt this motion. Yeah. This thing that’s happening.
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01:47:46
Turning yourself into an ass.
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01:47:47
Best way is an underhook. Like, as soon as you feel like he starts to stand up, you hook the meh, and worst case scenario, you transition to a leg bar, you let go of the triangle, you you get control of that leg and you use that leg either to try to cement him or sweep him.
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01:48:01
But you can never hold on to a triangle if the guy’s standing up. It’s just it’s back look at that fucking concrete.
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01:48:07
You’re done.
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01:48:08
You’re dead.
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01:48:09
You’re done.
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01:48:09
Your head is pulverized.
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01:48:10
Yeah. It’s bad enough on turf, but I won’t do that again.
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01:48:13
And that was ai, you know, there’s a little bit of springiness to the ground because it’s in a ring still. Mhmm. And there’s probably a a certain amount of padding on the surface.
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01:48:23
How hard are those rings? And Ai walked around on them. They
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01:48:26
There’s a little bit, like, the UFC has a small amount of foam Yeah. Like a padding. And it’s it’s very important, really. Because, you know, guys heads bounce off and they get head kicked. They fall down. Their heads bounce off. They get hit with a big right hand or something.
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01:48:42
You you bounce your head. So you can’t have a real hard floor.
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01:48:44
Yeah.
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But it’s not soft enough where you want, you know Yeah. Jon Jones power slamming you.
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Yep. Not really any day. No days actually. That’s crazy.
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01:48:54
Yeah. It’s, I meh, to to be one of those people that make a living doing that, that is a wild way to go.
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01:49:01
Yeah. Ai What happened where that ai, like, that that was the direction they were gonna go? You’re like, you know what? I’m gonna get the crap beat out of me and and dole out a lot of pain and see how this shakes out? Or do you just kinda ai wake up one day and in that world you’re like, Ai pretty good.
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01:49:16
Well, you’re probably a wild person to begin with and you’re probably excited by dangerous scary things and you’re probably pretty good at it which is why you’re fighting professionally. Yeah. You know, so you probably trained in the gym and you realize you’re better than most people.
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01:49:30
Maybe a few amateur fights and fuck a few people up and go, you know, I think I’m the fucking man.
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01:49:35
Start believing right?
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01:49:36
Yeah. And some of them are right.
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01:49:38
Yeah. Some
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01:49:38
of them are Jon Jones. That’s what they figured that out. Every now and then every now and then a guy is correct. Like, that’s the way he should’ve went. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Damn. Fucking everybody up. Yeah.
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01:49:48
Everybody, ballet. It’s okay. You were talking about meh first. Sai, Ai,
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01:49:53
on your Yeah. That’s that’s my heavyweight. That’s my heavyweight, all ai.
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01:49:58
John Jones for you.
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01:49:59
He’s the guy that’s ai I feel like Tyson in his ram, you have to have him on the Mount Rushmore. You wanna have Jack Dempsey, you wanna have Joe Frazier, you sana I mean, it’s like a lot of guys who are really good. Mhmm. It’s hard to sai, like Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano. There’s a lot of ai for me, the one that you can’t remove is Tyson. Right.
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01:50:21
So there’s a bunch of other ones. Lennox Lewis in his prime was fucking amazing. Larry Holmes doesn’t get the credit he deserves in his prime. There’s a lot of guys who are really good heavyweight champions, but you have to have Tyson. Everything else is negotiable.
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01:50:32
Ai has to be there in my in my mind. Yeah. You know, different people disagree.
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01:50:37
Do you watch other sports besides fighting sports or combat sports?
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01:50:40
I watch a little football.
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01:50:41
Yeah. Yeah.
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01:50:42
I’ve been watching football lately. I enjoy it. It’s fun. Pro or college? I watch high school. Yeah. Right? I watch, college and I watch, pro. I went to an NFL game Yeah. First time this year. Kinda cool. It was fun. Yeah. Sai the Jets played the the Cowboys down at Dallas. That was wild.
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01:50:58
It’s wild when you see the scale of it. You know, the scale of it, the sai ai.
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01:51:01
You’ve been in college games before?
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01:51:03
A few few UT. Oh, you were at UT. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. I got to shoot the cannon at UT. Nice. That was fun. Isn’t it crazy?
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01:51:09
Like, have you been keeping up with, like, the NIL and all the the, transfer portals and how that’s changed the landscape a lot?
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01:51:16
I have not. What is that? What is it? What are you saying?
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01:51:19
Ai is it name, image, and likeness.
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01:51:21
Oh, that. Right. The money thing. Yeah. The
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01:51:23
money thing is crazy.
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01:51:24
Well, they should have been paying those fucking kids a long ass time, but they should retroactively pay all those kids. Vatsal be interesting. They should. They should. They were making money off of them. It’s crazy how much money they make.
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01:51:34
The the amount of money that’s that’s happening now. It’s interesting because, like, it it actually from a couple of my friends that are in that world, it creates a different, conversation with the new kids. Because let’s say in high school, they’re, you know, they’re they’re bringing in these recruits and everything like that. Everyone is kissing their butt. Hey, man.
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01:51:50
They’re like, ai, we really want you to be here. We want you to be a Right. Whatever.
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01:51:54
Pay me, bitch.
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01:51:55
And now it’s turning into pay me. Right? And but then the other side of the I
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01:51:58
want a Corvette.
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01:52:00
Oh, that’s dude, I have friends that tell me that they’re they’re athletes who, when they’re coming through a recruiting trip, say, if there’s not a quarter $1,000,000 sign signing bonus as just a part of the deal, I’m not getting on the plane for the recruiting trip. Wow. Like an 18 or 17 year old kid saying that. That’s ballsy.
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01:52:16
Blows my mind. They’re right. You know who else should be doing that? The fucking Olympics. The fucking Olympics. They should all sai, fuck you pay me. They really should. That’s the greatest scam in all of
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01:52:29
competitive sports. Everyone. Well, now they they can now. I mean, the Olympic Committee, but originally it was amateur which is
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01:52:35
Well, they can ai, like, what you mean is, like, the NBA players can represent the United States and play in the Olympics. That’s that’s cute. But what about the swimmers? What about the people? What about the gymnasts? What about the boxers? Those fucking all those people should get paid. Yeah.
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01:52:50
Every single one of them.
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And only and no one really cares about Olympic athletes but every 4 years.
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01:52:54
Like Right.
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01:52:54
A buddy of mine won the shoot the 2004 shot put, Olympics. And he was ai, I still have to ask my mom for money. Wow. He’s like, because no one cares about the Olympics but every 4 years. God. And you’re like, you have a degree at Dartmouth, a business degree, and you’re the Olympic champion. And and he was the 1st athlete to ever, eBay himself.
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01:53:18
So he had a a a shirt that says this space for rent. Uh-huh. And so he would he, like, would put himself on the murders, like, kinda like the first NLs. Like, hey, meh. I have to make money throwing the steel ball.
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01:53:28
And I’m 30 something years old. I’m a world champion, and I still have to ask for money every 3 every 4 years or for 3 years.
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01:53:35
They used to do that with the UFC. Used to be able to have sponsors. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anything you sana, all ai, Condom Depot sana your shorts.
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01:53:43
Man, how about this old days ai Tank Abbott and all these ai? At least I love watching all that. Once in college, we were ai, get it pay per view and, like, check it out.
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01:53:51
Yeah, man. That’s the the dark days. The early days.
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01:53:54
Those are
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01:53:55
those are No one knew what was going on. No. No one really knew what was effective. You saw some people were effective one way and you thought that’s the way to go ai like Yeah.
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01:54:02
It was kinda like when you’re in high school, you when you would go sneak out of the house and you watch faces of death.
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01:54:06
Oh, yeah.
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01:54:07
And it was like, wow, this is like a cool thing. It’s like the UFC, like
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01:54:10
Kids will never understand how difficult it was to see fucked up things when we were young. It was hard.
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01:54:15
Really hard. You had to try hard.
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01:54:16
You had to, like, know somebody.
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01:54:18
He had no older kids.
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01:54:19
Had to know somebody in the city. Someone someone had some dark warehouse and a copy of some There’s always yard Betty video.
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01:54:25
It’s always weird. Yeah. No. It’s just like, ai, you rode your bike all around and you, like, find some weird wood ai.
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01:54:31
I remember when we were kids, someone had a video. I think it was like a barnyard Betty type video, like, when when them ladies have sex with a bunch of animals. Oh, yeah. I ai that. One of us had to watch the door. So if we if we had a a video like that, we’re playing in the basement, one of us had to had to go up to the top of the staircase and wait by the door sai that no one could just open the door.
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And then they
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So they open the door, you would pretend ai, oh, I was just coming through the door, you know. So, like, you hold it on the door so they can’t get in. Like, oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. And then the kids downstairs would hear that and they’d pop the tape out and pretend they were, you know, playing Atari or something.
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01:55:09
Oh, shit. Atari?
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But you had to pop that fucking tape out quick because if mom caught you down there watching a chick blow a German Shepherd
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01:55:17
Yeah. That didn’t pan out.
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And they were, like, real grainy, like, copies of copies. You know, they’re, like, 2 guys get together with 2 VCRs and they record tapes.
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Oh, yeah. With all the weird you have to get the
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Yeah. Yeah. You had the cables in the back.
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01:55:29
So was that was that, you you live in the city grown up? Or I lived in the suburbs.
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01:55:33
I lived in Newton Newton, suburb Massachusetts Okay. Ai Boston.
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01:55:38
Yeah. Yeah. Did you live in New Jersey at one point?
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01:55:40
That’s where I was born. Oh. Yeah.
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01:55:41
Yeah. So was my dad. What part? Hillside.
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01:55:44
Have you seen all these UFOs in New Jersey lately? No. Yeah. Like, over the last few days, there’s been this steady stream. They’re not UFOs. They’re drones.
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01:55:53
Oh, I did see something.
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01:55:55
I think you posted something about
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01:55:56
the drones or something. Right?
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01:55:57
I don’t think I did.
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01:55:58
Somebody did.
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01:55:59
But a lot of people have been, but they’re not moving in any extraordinary way. They look like drones. They they they do. It just looks like a bunch of assholes thinks it’s fun Right. To put drones up everywhere. But now there’s all this, like, weird mythology attached to it where, like, the governor was saying sometimes as soon as we put eyes on them, they take off and but if I was a UFO though, like, if I was an alien and I knew that a bunch of people are trying to be smart asses Yeah.
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01:56:25
Yeah. And they’re putting these drones in the sai, Ai be like, perfect time to visit.
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01:56:28
Oh, yeah.
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These dipshits won’t know the difference. Yeah.
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01:56:31
He’s not.
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01:56:31
I don’t have to use my cloaking technology. I could just fly over their head and they’re gonna assume this is more nonsense.
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01:56:37
Dude, my, one of my buddies he, probably weird to even sai, like, he had a friend that sent him a video of some weird stuff going on in the desert whatever, and it went through and then he showed it to me and then it just disappeared. And he was ai, the the dude he was talking to said it disappeared, but then, like, can you have a file that kinda self destructs?
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01:57:02
Because it disappeared on his phone too. He’s like, how do they take this off? They take this off of my phone. Ai I don’t know. I mean
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01:57:10
I’ve never heard of a file. Jamie, have you ever heard of a video file that self destructs?
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01:57:14
Or that someone That’s like some, Mission Impossible sai. Meh. Someone could chirp into it, like, it was wild. Like, he Ai mean
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01:57:21
that, like, this this recording will destroy itself.
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01:57:23
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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01:57:24
In 30 seconds.
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01:57:26
Yeah. That was ai. Sai mean, I wondered though, like, could they somehow backtrack it where it had been shared?
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01:57:34
Well, that would be problematic because then they would have access to things on your phone. I think
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01:57:38
I doubt that’s ever a case.
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01:57:39
More likely would be they put, like, a time that someone could watch the video into the video where it’s it’s probably still fixable if someone still has it.
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01:57:49
Well, this dude took the video.
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01:57:52
And did it on his phone?
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01:57:53
And did it on his phone and shared it. And then he said one day he just looked into it, looked in his phone, it was gone. He might be retarded. Well, that could be the case.
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01:58:02
But my buddy
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01:58:03
is like a soft ai too. So Ai. I don’t know, man.
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01:58:06
Be ai too. It’s hard to say. It might be real, though. I’ve never heard of that happening, though, which I I would assume that I would have heard of something like vatsal, especially with the amount of people that I talked to that are in the UFO world.
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01:58:16
That’s what I figured
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01:58:17
in that.
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Excuse me. A thread on Reddit about an a glitch in iOS 17 that might have made some people’s videos randomly disappear. Mhmm. Important ones that they wanted.
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01:58:27
Right. And then they think it’s the UFOs. That makes sense.
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01:58:31
Oh, yeah. This doesn’t say anything about that. This is just, like, why is this happening?
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01:58:34
Is this
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happening to anybody else kind of
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01:58:35
Okay. Google this. Is it possible to make a self destructing video that only has a certain amount of plays in it?
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01:58:47
Oh, that would be cool. Right?
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01:58:48
Like, if maybe you could code it into the video that Yeah. Once this video plays for, you know, whatever 14 minutes. Right. It’s 14 minutes of play. It automatically 17 times. It codes itself. You know, or it randomizes its its path because it’s basically just information. Right? Right. Information viewed through a codec.
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01:59:07
Does that have ai a site ai a cyclical rate, ai, this many times that ai
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01:59:12
Because I know there’s certain things like, someone will send you something on Instagram and you could watch the video but then you can’t go back and watch it again. Right.
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01:59:20
Or they send you a voice message and then it And
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01:59:22
it goes away. Yeah. Yeah. That’s how Alex Jones likes to roll. He sends you voice messages and they can take it away. That’s probably a really good idea. For him. Yeah. Smart move. Best not to have a paper trail. I don’t even know, like, how much of that, encrypted messaging stuff works, You know, I know when Tucker was saying that he was organizing that meeting with Putin in Russia and that the government called him up because they knew that he was meeting Putin Right.
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01:59:49
Because they had access to his signal. And he’s like, what? You have access to I didn’t know even know someone could get into my signal. I thought that was encrypted.
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Nope. Yeah.
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01:59:58
Nope. They can get in there. So it’s like how much of this stuff is really how much of it is really encrypted and protected and how much would they even let you know if they can break it, why would they even tell you?
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Well, that’s the whole point. It’s ai, it’s exactly what you would say that you couldn’t do it.
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02:00:13
Exactly. Yeah. That’s But that was they they fucking spilled the beans. Right. So once they spilled the beans, like, I know a lot of people including Elon Musk started questioning signal. Sure. So I talked to someone in the government and I said, what can you handle signal?
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02:00:30
Like, how how does someone is it as long as the state actor knows the phone number was the answer. So all they have to do is know your phone number. So if they know your phone number and you have signal Game over, boys. If you’re, you know, I meh, I’m sure it’s probably they probably need to ask somebody if they could do it. It’s probably not something they could just do.
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02:00:48
But if if an agent is ai, Bert Soren’s acting a little fucking fishy. Let’s see what he’s signaling to his friends.
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02:00:54
Yeah. Yeah. And and the opportunity to just decide subjectively if that’s a thing is
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02:01:00
And then whatever you carry in your notes and whatever is in your folders or your photos They’re gonna know all
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kinds of ballistics.
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02:01:08
For sure. They’ve got all these It’s kind of weird crap.
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02:01:11
They’re gonna know where ai deer stanza
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02:01:13
are and everything. You got dick pics? They got dick pics. All of it. They have your dick pics. It’s ai there’s no way around that anymore. I think that’s that’s a myth. The idea that somehow or another you could have some sort of a protection from that happening today.
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02:01:28
Yeah.
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02:01:29
Are you making phone calls? You are. Okay. Are you on a network? Are you on Ai? Are you like, I think you’re fucked.
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02:01:36
Yeah. You would have to think so. Yeah. I mean, you have to think there’s enough backdoors and Yeah. Alleged probable causes or however someone wants to spin it that
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02:01:45
Well, that’s also how they got Huawei banned from the United States. Because Ai remember, you know, I’m a bit of a phone nerd and, back in the day, Huawei had the best phones. They their phones were, like, way more advanced than some of the American Android phones that were coming out. Yeah, man.
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02:02:02
They had incredible cameras and, like, big battery life and, like, crazy zoom possibilities and I was looking to get this new Huawei phone. Sure. And then Huawei got banned from the United States and I was like, what?
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It goes back to anything that’s banned, meh. Makes you really start questioning.
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It does, but when they kind of all agree, there was very little push pushback that there was real security problems with these phones and not just phones, but network devices, routers, different different, components that had third party entrance. Sai it was they had the capability of accessing information that’s being transferred back and forth on a network through these routers.
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02:02:48
And then Ai think people are like, hey, why is that in there? Yeah. And then they realize, oh, the Chinese government is in complete cahoots with Huawei. Yeah. Like, if you own a company like Huawei, you’re down with the government. You have to be. That’s how you stay in business.
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02:03:03
Right.
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02:03:03
You you can’t be some rebel out there operating on your own, making 1,000,000,000 of dollars creating, you know
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02:03:10
Yeah. Well, you had Mike Ben. Was it Ben’s on Yes. That was a wonderful podcast. Right? Holy
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02:03:15
crap.
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02:03:16
Yeah. It’s eye opening. Yeah. I spun that past a couple of my my buddies. Sai actually it was the same buddy. They gave me the Yuri Bezmov video that I gave you Oh. 4 years ago.
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02:03:25
That fucking video has changed my mind.
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02:03:27
Right? Yeah.
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02:03:28
When you first sent me that, you’re the first ai, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, because we played that on this podcast, ai,
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02:03:33
30 times. Yeah. We were at your house sai
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02:03:35
10:30 gym. When you played me that, I was like, holy shit. This is exactly what happened.
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02:03:40
Yep. I gave it to Jack Carr and Evan Hayford too.
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02:03:43
There’s no way that was a cool like, he just guessed it.
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02:03:46
Right. Yeah. Right. You’re ai, I’m gonna put this next baseball into the, you know, the 3rd Yeah. Aisle up the thing and crack. Wow. That was cool. Four speak from the left. Yeah. You’re ai, move back and look. So a buddy of mine that’s in that world, he gave that to me 4 or 5 years.
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02:04:01
So he told me, he’s like, this keeps getting deleted and he kinda gives me the whole briefing on the
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02:04:06
left side.
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02:04:06
It keeps
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02:04:06
getting deleted for a while.
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02:04:07
Yeah. Of YouTube, he’s like, they keep taking it down. No. I think, honestly, prior to you and Evan and Jack and guys like that, it was not easy to find. I think you guys just changed the algorithm on it enough. Wow. Which is pretty neat.
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02:04:21
But that doesn’t make any sense because I’m pretty sure we just found it online. He he We just found it on YouTube.
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He told me a multiple multiple ai. He’s like, they’ve taken this down often.
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02:04:31
Why would someone take it down? I’m not sure.
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02:04:33
But I know some of my buddies that were, in the teams and stuff like that, they were like, oh, I meh seeing this back in 95 when I went through BUDS. Oh. When I got out, maybe it was green team, but they were in that early early days ago. I haven’t seen this video in forever, and then they kinda watched it. They were like, oh my gosh.
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02:04:48
Like, you’re kinda getting all the background that but he’s he was giving me I can’t remember ai I was going with this, but he was giving me some ai, oh, about the Benz. And, it was interesting and that that sounds like, hey. Did you check this out? And he’s like, ai. He’s like, sounds like he’s read a couple of my briefings.
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02:05:02
I was like, interesting. Like
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02:05:04
Mike Benz
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some weird stuff going on.
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02:05:05
Crazy recall too.
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02:05:07
Oh my gosh.
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02:05:08
Yeah. He just no notes. Just spitting out all that information right off the top of his head.
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02:05:13
That’s you’ve had some amazingly impactful guests on here. Like, I I I’m not trying to blow you up, but, like, I’m sure you know the impact that you’ve had on the world which is probably really wild. It’s pretty weird. Pretty weird. Right?
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02:05:28
Pretty weird that I didn’t even try. That’s the weirdest part. About it. Right? That’s the weirdest part. It was all an accident.
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02:05:34
It’s like
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02:05:35
a 100%. Like, I just felt like this is what I should do. I ai, start a podcast sana then I should keep doing it. Even when it was totally nonprofitable for, like, 5 years, I was like, ai. I like doing it. Let’s just keep doing it.
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02:05:46
That’s how all the good stuff works. Yeah. It’s like you’re passionate about it. I wanna go do this thing. You know, Evan ai I have talked to you. He’s like, hey. I make brown I make brown water.
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02:05:54
And I’m
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like, I make steel rectangles. It’s weird. Ai, I don’t know why we decided to do it.
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02:06:01
But once you figure out a thing that you’re really passionate about, then you’ll become successful if you just keep following it.
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02:06:07
Yeah.
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02:06:08
But the thing about the podcast thing was, I managed to keep the same spirit of just doing what I enjoy doing. Yes. Like, if I could just have conversations with people Sure. With no phones and sai and especially if I could get a scientist to sit in here and explain things to me for 3 hours, I would have always been interested in doing that.
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02:06:25
Mhmm. But I just it’s you can’t do that. They won’t do it. Right. Right.
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02:06:30
You have to become friends with them and you can only be friends with so many of them, you know, and then you have to fly to them and sit down with them. Ai
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02:06:37
and you’re like, you create a honey a honey trap here. Then you’re like, hey, I’ll bring everyone here and talk to them.
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As long as you can guarantee other people are gonna listen, people wanna talk about anything which is really weird. It’s wild. Like, that’s the way you can guarantee that you can get them to come as long as they’re gonna other people gonna hear it. Right.
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02:06:52
It’s not
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02:06:53
that you can sell books and Yeah.
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02:06:54
The whole deal.
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02:06:54
Yeah. And that’s great. But it’s it’s
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02:06:57
it’s just genius that Ai just appreciate the illumination on varied, ai. Like, I love that there’s people on the right, people from left, people this like this, hate this, like, that is so refreshing. It’s good for all of us too. It is.
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02:07:14
It’s good to hear people even that you don’t agree with. Of course. As long as they’re nice. Sai long as that’s my course. Sai don’t wanna argue with anybody and meh in fucking screaming matches. There’s some people that are they’re like we’re talking about earlier that they that’s how they get engagement by constantly getting in these stew that’s why they have those shows like Piers Morgan likes to do that whereas like 4 people on the shah, they all yell over each other and they’re all remote sai no one’s there.
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02:07:36
It’s ai,
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02:07:38
that sounds horrible.
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02:07:39
It’s horrible. I don’t I don’t find out nothing. If you could sit down with someone, even if you disagree with them, and just let them talk, you could have a conversation. You know, find out why they think the way they do. You don’t have to fight them on it. Just, like, ask them what is it about this thing?
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02:07:56
Yeah. Candid and curious. Right? Candid as in Ai actually tell you what I think and curious I’ll actually care what you think.
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02:08:02
Yeah. And I always try to think the way they think. If someone’s talking to me about a certain thing, like, I will you know, people are, oh, you’ll agree with anybody. Ai, like, I kind of will if I can try to see things through your head, and I’ll try to steel meh it for you.
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02:08:18
Ai, if someone is saying something and I go, okay. So you’re saying that but if it’s preposterous, I’ll stop it. I’ll stop and go, this doesn’t make any sense because of this. Like, I can see that you haven’t thought this through because Right. Or you didn’t know about that or, you ai, how could you say this when this is possible? Like, how do you how do you manage those 2 things?
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02:08:40
People will push back with ai love. Right? Because the disagreement doesn’t have to mean dismissal. No. And and when it does, that’s the opposite of love and respect. It’s like, no. I know. I don’t like you. Well, that’s canceling.
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02:08:52
Well, especially if people get shouty and arguey, you know. It’s ai there’s a way to do it where you can just talk about stuff Mhmm. And not be dismissive of someone. I sana, I see so many people do it where they they have their opinion, ai, Bill Marlick’s do that, like, dismiss something.
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02:09:06
Someone’s saying, like, instantaneously as they’re in the middle of explaining it. It’s like it’s kind of a sparring thing, you know, you’re you’re trying to win rather than trying to just have a conversation.
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02:09:17
Ai to see if the other guy flinches.
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02:09:19
Yeah. You’re shutting him down. You’re shutting down things you think or you’re calling bullshit. It’s also a lack of patience. Right? Because ai you have you have to have patience to let someone express themselves fully before you disagree, which is really important because sometimes someone will begin to express themselves and I disagree, but then they’ll take it around and give me some nuance and some understanding of how they came to their their opinion, then I’ll go, okay.
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02:09:45
Okay. I saw I see I see how you At
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least I see the track.
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02:09:48
Ram. Yeah. And so it’s more important for you for this than it is to acknowledge that. And they’re ai, yes. I’m like, okay. I understand. So when did you decide that that was and then and then I I I wanna go, like, I wanna know, are you a real thinker or are you a person who has adopted a conglomeration of ideas that comes along with an ideology?
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02:10:08
Sai there’s there’s really smart people that have done that, and they might not even know they’ve done that until you corner them. Mhmm. And then you ai, like
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02:10:17
Where did it come? Where’s the
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02:10:18
trans kids. There’s ai occasionally, you know, there’s a subject ai, make sense of this. You make sense of this.
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02:10:23
Right. Yeah. Follow it upstream ai source and they go.
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02:10:25
Make sense of this and let’s acknowledge what a kid is. You I want I wanna know how vulnerable you think children are. First of all, I wanna know, do you have any? 2nd of all, I wanna know how malleable and suggestible like, how open to suggestion are children in your eyes?
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02:10:41
I wanna know how do you think kids should be able to get tattoos? Do you think kids should be able to get married at 5? Do you think kids should you know what I’m saying? Yeah. Do you think they should be what do you think that they can control and then not control?
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02:10:53
Do you even understand children or are you sacrificing them and their future, these kids that you don’t even know, for your ideology, for your ideological position that’s, like, cult like? And then you you find out about people that think they’re intelligent until they’re confronted with these, like, insurmountable ethical dilemmas.
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02:11:15
Right. A similar one to, let’s say, someone who eats meat but hates hunting.
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02:11:19
Yes.
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02:11:19
You’re ai, you could hate you you cannot wanna do it Yes. But there’s still a killing and a murder at some point, and you could either be a part of that or just outsource it Yeah. And be okay with it.
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02:11:30
Well, it’s also that’s a cultural thing too. Right? Like, there’s a lot of people in the UK that don’t like hunting. Yeah. And they eat meh. And, you know, they’ll tell you. Like, my wife sai having a conversation. She was at dinner with a bunch of people, and I was out hunting.
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02:11:43
And And this guy was eating a steak. He’s ai, that’s deplorable. She’s like, what do you where do you think that came from? Yeah. This is so stupid.
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02:11:50
Like, you’re literally carving a steak ai you’re saying it’s deplorable vatsal someone’s out hunting. Like, we eat those animals.
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02:11:56
And what is general and I’ve had this conversation a number of times as well. And and generally, if folks are candid, curious, and respectful, you could kinda kinda bring them around. Right?
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02:12:05
Yes.
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02:12:06
Have you had someone that really just dug their heels in or like No.
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02:12:09
No. Never really in person. Right. Online, they’ll dig their heels until the cows come home. But I feel like most people this is ai talking online sucks.
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02:12:18
Yep.
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02:12:19
Most people are good people. I really believe that. Even if they’re ai trapped in their bullshit and wrapped up in their own head and most people sana
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02:12:28
to be If given the chance to be Yeah.
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02:12:30
And you can kinda help them along. Yeah.
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02:12:32
You’re a good person.
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02:12:32
You kinda help them along. They help each other saloni, you know. Ai, part of an argument is you. You know? Like, it’s it’s I know that there’s arguments that I’ve been in in my life that I could have avoided if I was more skillful with conversation. And I know that I have avoided a lot of arguments especially now as a smarter person than I was when I was younger. I’m better at it.
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02:12:54
I’m better at just, like, not biting on some bullshit passive aggressive stupid thing that some guy says. When I was young, if someone got passive aggressive with me, I’m like, hey, fuck you. Yeah. Like like, let’s just go to 10.
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02:13:07
Where is that going?
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02:13:08
Let’s just go to 10.
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02:13:09
Yeah.
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02:13:10
I don’t like how you’re talking. Ai, I’m not gonna sit here at this stupid party and pretend you’re not a cunt. And, you know, there’s been many times where, you know, I got dragged out of a situation before
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02:13:20
That accelerates.
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02:13:21
Yeah. Because I’m like, let’s just go to 10. You’re a piece of shit. Like, I know what you are. Yeah. You’re just a shitty person who likes to throw jabs at people when I’m just trying to be nice.
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02:13:30
Yeah. And you also know in your pocket, you know a lot of physical things that could be That helps.
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02:13:34
Advantageous. That definitely helps. But it also it it helps that I know that I’m being nice. So if I’m nice to you and you’re being a cunt to me and I’m trying to be nice to you again, you’re just thinking that you can just get away with this. And that’s ai I like to go, hey, fuck you.
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02:13:48
Ai that dumb?
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02:13:48
And you see that look in their face ai, oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no.
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02:13:52
Yeah.
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02:13:52
You’ve gone into fuck you land. Yeah. Now we’re here. Yeah. And ai the way, emotional pain is something that people think they can get a free slap. They think they could just get off on you and hit you with emotional pain. Like, if we’re playing this let’s hurt each other game, how about I just fuck you up? Yeah. Like, how about that? How about I just sai?
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02:14:11
Well, I’ll spend the night in jail. Yeah. How about that? How about fuck you? You know, because, like, that’s what you’re doing emotionally. Yes.
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02:14:18
You’re trying to create Be abusive. Pain. You’re you’re absolutely being abusive. Yes. And some people have make a habit out of, like, demeaning people to their face, and they think they can get away with it. It’s a really shitty practice.
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02:14:31
I I do appreciate the people who physically put it into that. Like, I’ve never I’ve never really been, like, yeah, you know, I’ll I’ll do what I need to do. Right? But I’ve never been, like, I’m gonna go, like ai, had a couple days I’m not proud of because I I kinda went ahead and hit that throttle.
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02:14:49
Yeah. Most of the time it’s avoidable.
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02:14:51
Yeah. But in some days, unfortunately, you’re not in the emotional state, and sometimes it is avoidable and you don’t avoid.
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02:14:56
Yeah. That’s the thing. Yeah. Ai, sometimes it is avoidable. I’m so much better
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02:15:00
at that ai.
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02:15:01
I’ve expressed my ai. I had no I didn’t understand that you don’t have to do this.
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02:15:06
Yeah. I’ve I’ve expressed my emotional immaturity at times. I’m like, yeah. I could really take in that one a different way. Do you you’re thankful. You’re like, sai, I’m glad that one really didn’t go sideways because that’s good.
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02:15:16
Ai, it could go terrible and someone could get murdered. I mean, things happen and Zero question. Can’t believe what they did. And then all of a sudden someone’s dead. That happens every day in America.
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02:15:26
Oh, I’ve I’ve had a couple close ones that you just kinda everyone walks away and it’s ai, whoo. And because you meh ai it’s like, what was that movie like? Sherlock Holmes. Remember when he could see the situations and he, like, pauses it? You could see, like, and when, like, pauses and you’re, like, this would happen, this would happen, this would happen, and then you’re, like, oh, there’s a dead guy. Yeah.
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02:15:45
You back it up. You’re, like, glad that didn’t happen. Okay. Bye. I’m gone.
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02:15:49
Bye. Just walk away. It’s like you have to learn that. And the problem with young guys is, first of all, their brain is not fully formed. They’re impulsive. They do wild things. And then if they feel that they’re being slighted, they feel like to be a man because they sana be a meh, you have to do something about it.
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02:16:06
Well, it’s the number one question every man has. Every man has the same question. Ai I am I good enough? Right. That’s the wounding. Right? Right. And every woman goes her question is,
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02:16:17
do you I’m not enough.
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02:16:17
Do you see me? It’s exactly it. Do you see me? And a man says, am I good enough? That’s why there’s sport. That’s why there’s fighting. That’s why people try to make money. That’s why they try to flex on each other. It’s the little boy inside all of us going, am I good enough?
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02:16:32
Yeah. And then there’s the the people that get past that, and then it becomes this ultimate challenge. Like, the the ultimate challenge of life is the most difficult puzzle to solve. Yes. And that you can solve it above and beyond all these other psychopaths. So you’re competing with all these other people that are very much like you, but what separates you from them is the work that you put in. Yep.
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02:16:54
Discipline, drive, mindset, whatever whatever it is that you can find that gives you that edge to pull ahead with all the from all these other people that are very very competitive as well doing the same thing. Right. And then with men, they feed off each other in those environments.
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02:17:07
They feed off.
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02:17:07
Like a West Ai barbell Yeah. Like a mock gym.
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02:17:10
Yeah. And then when you’re you’re wondering that and then when someone questions it sana publicly questions it in front of your boys or front of whatever, it’s ai, no, I’ll show you I’m good enough. I’ll do something stupid right now and end up in jail.
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02:17:22
Especially someone who’s just a walking dead man with a mouth. Right. Like someone who knows they can’t defend themselves, and so they just feel comfortable doing that publicly because they think they’re being protected by society. Like That’s
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02:17:33
the worst. When they think, yeah, this this actual false state of security, like, man, if we’re in the jungle right now, you wouldn’t be doing that.
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02:17:40
Or when women think they could do it, when women get mouthy with men, like, don’t do Why? When I was, I think, all 16 or 17 years old, I was in high school and there was this kid that moved into the neighborhood. He came from Iran and his family had a lot of money and so they had this I think it was in Beacon Hill.
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02:17:57
I forget where it was but it was a really nice neighborhood. Yeah. And this kid had this giant fucking house on this huge lawn, so he decided to have a party. Of course. So he’s this is how he’s gonna make friends.
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02:18:09
He just moved here from another country. Right? Right. So he has a party and kids from every fucking high school came to this party. And I was at the party with a bunch of my friends and I was walking up the staircase. I’ll never forget this.
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02:18:23
So I’m walking up the staircase and then, you know, so it’s ai right here in front of me while ai is going down. Yeah. I can’t remember what the girl did. She either slapped this guy or she threw a drink in his face. I can’t remember which one it was. Some offense.
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02:18:37
But I remember he uncorked a right hand like Roberto Duran. This dude threw a right hand like he knew how to punch because I knew how to punch. So I watched him, like, oh, good mechanics.
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02:18:50
Yeah. Right. Right. Really. Dude just swallowed it.
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02:18:52
This just blap. Just hit her on the chin. Her head snaps back. A guy catches her. She goes out and then it’s bedlam.
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02:19:03
No. It’s
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02:19:04
bedlam. I mean, people are fighting left and right. There’s people fighting in the stairwell. I had to run out to there’s piles of guys out on the lawn. It speak like a disease. It was ai within 30 seconds ai to
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02:19:16
hit this guy because of that.
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02:19:18
It was screaming and then screaming arya people screaming at the people screaming, which people were fighting the people that were screaming. It was the wildest thing. It was like a disease ran through the house ai that like world war z where everybody’s like, and I I managed to not have any fights.
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02:19:34
A couple of my friends got in fights.
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02:19:35
Like, one of the better fighters there. You managed ai fight fights.
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02:19:38
Interested in street ai. I’m like, let me get out of here. This I know what this is. This is fucking I understand danger. Yeah. So I got out there and, but I’ll never forget that. That girl thought she could hit that guy or do whatever she did. I forget what she thought. Ai wish I could remember.
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02:19:52
Quality kinda
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02:19:53
All I remember is because it’s like 30 how many years ago was that? 40 years ago?
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02:19:57
That’s a while ago. Oh meh god.
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02:19:59
It’s 40 years ago. Yeah. So it was like this. Blap. I mean, just fucking I’ll never forget that, man. Horrible to laugh at it because she forgot a lot of things that night. She definitely got listen to podcasts now. Bryden. Yeah. She was probably like, that’s me.
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02:20:13
My heart I still can’t talk. Like, I she for sure got a broken face. I mean, he hit her so hard, and her head snapped back. Just sai like, she had no idea she was gonna get punched by a big guy who knew how to punch.
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02:20:26
Jeez. But he
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02:20:27
was like, hey. Fuck you. Like, you just got the wrong guy with, like, 3 millers in him. Oh. And he just unblocked
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02:20:33
one ai guy.
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02:20:34
Probably not the first guy he hit a check. Yeah. Because the way he did it was ai, he didn’t slap her. You know, he didn’t slap her.
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02:20:40
That’s a scary one.
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02:20:41
He could’ve just slapped her or pushed her or something. You didn’t have to KO her. But but there’s women that think that they can just go up to a guy and yell because they’re protected by society. There’s fucking psychos out there. It
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02:20:54
just goes back to be nice.
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02:20:56
Yes. Be nice, man.
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02:20:58
Like, be nice.
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02:20:58
But it’s ai, you motherfucker. I’ll fucking kick I’ll fucking kill you. Like, hey. Hey. Hey. Yeah. Hey.
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02:21:05
I’ve been backed up a couple ai with the pump pump pumps on the chest, and it’s like, alright. Alright. Alright. Then you’re, like, backed against a car, like, at a tailgate or something. You’re like
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02:21:14
Yeah. And when you say don’t touch me Yeah. And it it gets it gets hot and then it’s ai they might just touch you because you said don’t touch meh. And, like, I’m telling you don’t touch me and then you have to touch them and then, oh, you’re assaulting me. Like, no. No. No.
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02:21:29
You’re still talking, so I haven’t assaulted you. Like, if I assaulted you, this would be over super quick. Right. So let’s not do that.
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02:21:36
Yep. That happened to me, in DC. I was walking with my ai, and, it’s during when everything was popping off. Oh. Big, big time. Oh. Big, big time. Things people got real mouthy. Real real. And we’re walking through it. And, of course, you know, truth be told, I’m walking through ai wife looks like a Viking also, and we’re walking through DC during the height of everything, height of everything.
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02:22:00
No mask because I’m outside and I’m a sovereign individual and screw vatsal. And a whole chattering group of a certain population of, you know, ai, it’s antifa. And so they’re, ai I was like and I just said, I’m not gonna stop walking. Please move out of my way. Ai know, f you, f this, and then you just
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02:22:22
Meanwhile, you did nothing.
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02:22:23
I I literally was walking across, and they were 40 yards from me and ran across the street to come yell at me like a bark. Have you ever seen ai a like a bear or a or a wild boar gets, like, bathed by dogs, and they’re all like, Yeah. And we’re just walking, and it’s like, okay, please. And we’re trying to get to my hotel, and there’s a cop because they boarded everything off because everything was crazy.
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02:22:43
It was ai the 4 big groups were all doing the deal that weekend. And I was like, my hotel is right there. Sorry. I said, sir, do you think I really wanna deal with this? Like like in there, everyone has their cameras out because they’re ai big guys sana smoke somebody, ai, and there’s a whole deal.
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02:22:58
And then ai, one actually one of them was chirping at meh, shah fell down and tripped over something and I helped her up because that’s that’s what you do. And then get your hands ai. I was like, okay, man. Can I please get to my like, this is a thing? So and then they played music all night till 7 in the morning right sai of our hotel just to make sure that no one slept.
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02:23:19
It was it was a wonderful time.
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02:23:20
Fun times. It was a great time. Whatever happened to Law and Order? Why do people think that was a good thing? Why? There were so many goofy motherfuckers that didn’t want people mad at them, so they started yelling out defund the police. They started getting on board with it.
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02:23:33
Even Kamala Harris posted, defund the police. Like, I mean, defund the police on on Twitter.
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02:23:38
Yeah. Like, when is this a good idea ever to, like, kinda cancel anyway? Like, there’s, like, like, besides, like, someone that hurts children, like, after that, kinda do what you wanna do. Right?
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02:23:46
Well, that’s not even a canceling thing. That was just people had decided that there was an enemy out there. Mhmm. I I say this that, like, protests are too much like war. You’re on the ground and you’re marching around with a bunch of people yelling, you all have a cause and you’re all moving as one group.
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02:24:02
It’s too much like war. I think there’s some there’s triggers. That’s why mob mentality exists because you gotta be able to kill people if some shit’s going down if you’re at war.
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02:24:11
Because that’s like escalates.
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02:24:12
Right. There’s a mode that people snap into. It’s called mob mentality. Why does it exist? It exists because at certain points in history, we have gone to war with other groups of people on this on the ground. Yep. And I think that’s built into your psyche. Yep. And I think it’s just like catching a fish. You know how you catch a fish?
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02:24:30
Like, if no one’s ever caught a fish before, you catch, like, oh. You get so excited. I think it’s because your brain is hardwired to know that that fish is gonna feed you.
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02:24:38
Yes.
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02:24:38
And that’s why it’s exciting. And you’re hardwired to know that if you’re yelling and you meet an opposing group, those are the bad and you’re going looking for people that are opposing groups because you got power. There’s a bunch of them.
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02:24:50
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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02:24:51
You’re a bunch of bullies. You’re rolling deep. And you find that fucking white guy with the beard, and you’re ai, he’s the enemy. It was wild. It was wild. But it was like an open door to this psyche that that that has always existed. That that mop mentality has always been a thing.
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02:25:07
And if you open that door and you allow it to stay open and you don’t do something to close it with law and order, you have fucking madness. You have madness. And we had that. We had that on the streets. In certain places in this country for months at a time, it was fucking chaotic.
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02:25:22
Bonkers. Yeah. It was actually pretty cool in my and I’m gonna say none of that world was cool. But during my, in my town, they they started burning stuff and everything like that. And my sheriff, he’s a he’s a friend of mine. He’s like, yeah, we shut that down fast. I was like, what happened? It’s like, someone threw a brick. Ai got center mass with a with a bean bag. Period.
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02:25:42
First time. And I go, how long did that take us? We haven’t had a problem since. I was like, perfect.
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02:25:47
He’s like, you know And that’s kind. It’s being kind. Yeah. Exactly. The beanbag is being kind.
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02:25:50
Yeah. A a severe punishment Yeah. Really fast, generally trains people pretty quickly. And then there’s ai, alright. Our town went back to being cool. Everyone’s fine.
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02:25:59
Yeah. There’s there’s no reason for it. And it was it’s crazy how quickly it all boiled over. And the the it was all these events happening together at the same time. Right? The COVID, the lockdowns, the anger. Meh. Everybody got real weird because everybody’s just locked in their home for months at a time.
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02:26:14
And then the George Floyd thing and the public outrage and up and the people are on the street and then people were encouraging it and funding it. There was people that was there were certain groups that were encouraging it, organizing it, and funding it. And they got money from people to do it.
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02:26:28
And they they had pallets of bricks that were conveniently located on the street. All that stuff’s real.
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02:26:33
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. We we we saw it. It was it was remarkable to see it in real time.
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02:26:38
That’s why it’s crazy having a guy like Mike Benz lay out Right. How it all Yeah. Is going down. Yep. And you think, oh, it’s all organic. People are fed up. Uh-uh. No. No. There’s a bunch of people that are profiting off of this. Yes. They want this to take place.
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02:26:52
They want to be able to push new laws through. They wanna be able to grip tighter Yep. Tighter control on censorship. Tighter these social media companies have to pay. They’re responsible for this. No. No. No. You fucking funded it. You fucking funded it with tax money that was fault filtered through NGOs, you cocksuckers.
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02:27:10
You guys are a part of this. You want this to happen.
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02:27:14
Right. That’s where everyone just, ai, everyone just pause. Yeah. Just, like, pump the brakes if it feels like, what was that song by Iron Maiden? Ai can’t remember. Well, it speeds up at the
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02:27:27
end. You know?
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02:27:28
That’s what it felt like the last 4 years, especially during 2020. I was like, oh, this is the the end of, like, Paranoid or whatever it was. And it just sped up, and you’re like, oh, is this how the end of the story goes, like, as in humanity?
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02:27:39
It could be. Yeah. I think we got a taste of what’s possible, but I also think yeah. I think it was horrible. Anybody who lost someone, anybody where where it all went down, I I think it was horrible. Don’t get me wrong. But I also think we’re lucky
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02:27:53
Yes.
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02:27:53
Because we got to see it. It’s horrible if you lost your business. It’s horrible if you you got forced to get vaccinated. It’s horrible. All those things are horrible, but we got to see how many people are fucking cowards. We got to see how many people fold as soon as there are any sort of external pressure from either their surround or how many people got forced into it by their job.
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02:28:14
We got to see vatsal, and we got to see how there are unscrupulous groups in power that will coerce people to do things that are not scientific, they’re not ethical, they’re not moral, if they can profit off of it. And we got to see that, that they will use you as a human fucking ATM machine and they will they will figure out a way to maximize their profits and maximize the control.
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02:28:38
So now we know. So now we know. So now you can’t think that the world is some sort of 19 fifties movie where the good guys wear the white hats and the bad guys wear the black hats. You gotta realize, like, there’s a lot of human interest shit going on. And humans have a certain interest in getting control over money and over people, and they do it whenever they can.
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02:28:59
And if they can do it through the guise of being progressive and kind or if they can do it through the guise of, you know, whatever. Put yourself up by your bootstraps, like, whatever it is. Yep. They find a way to to rationalize these very specific patterns of behavior that the founding fathers of this country fought against when they created the bill of rights and they created the constitution.
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02:29:20
They did all that knowing that these human nature, these human instincts exist.
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02:29:26
Yeah. It’ll keep flowcharting back down to this eventually. It’s ai, hold on. People are people and people are gonna do people stuff.
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02:29:33
And every time they pass something like the Patriot Act or the Patriot Act too, they just chip away at that. They’re chipping away at that and it’s their job to do that in their mind. Right. It’s it shouldn’t be because there’s not enough oversight of them. That’s the problem.
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02:29:45
It’s like Right. This is the whole concept of the deep state which was always, like, such a stupid conspiracy theory for the longest time. People, oh, you’re worried about the deep state? Until you are. Until you’re like, oh my god. It’s real. Oh my god. How did that kid get on that roof?
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02:30:01
What is Come on. How did how did he walk around with a fucking ai? Like, we were talking about before. Rangefinders? Yeah. That’s what he had.
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02:30:09
That’s why ai used those folks
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for fucking shooting people. He’s not golfing.
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02:30:12
The whole thing was nuts. The whole thing was nuts, and we were all just sitting there going, oh, the deep state’s real. Like, oh, someone someone did something here. How did his apartment get professionally scrubbed? Is there are are there a a team of people that are actually organizing something like this? Has this happened before?
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02:30:32
Why won’t they release the Kennedy files? He died how many fucking years ago? 1963? Yeah. How why don’t that’s 61 years ago. How about you release that?
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02:30:43
Yeah. Maybe. Ai Or Hey.
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02:30:45
How about you guys release that?
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02:30:47
Yeah. Or there’s maybe a reason?
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02:30:49
Yeah. Do do you think that stuff’s good?
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02:30:51
I mean, do you think
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02:30:52
61 years is not a lot of time, though. That’s a good point. Like, maybe we should wait another 60.
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02:30:57
Wait a sec. Makes makes sense. Right?
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02:30:58
People aren’t
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ready yet. They’re not ready yet.
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02:31:01
I’ve thought about that a lot.
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02:31:03
I I wanna know. Right? I wanna see behind all the scenes. I wanna see the I wanna see the Epstein’s, the Dittys, the the the you know, the
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02:31:10
Patel says first day, day 1. Let’s go. That’s what he says.
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02:31:13
Let’s see it.
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02:31:14
If they get him in there. What a stud. Right? Oh, man. That’s the if you are the deep state you know what he said he sana do? He would close Langley and make it a a museum of the deep state. Jeez. This is the first thing he said he would do and then just reorganize everything and say now go back to chasing criminals Yeah. And stop attacking the fucking citizens.
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02:31:36
Stop spying on people, you fucking weirdos.
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02:31:39
I’m so pumped about him and Tyler and, like, there’s just such an awesome group of people that are just
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02:31:45
Certainly interesting.
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02:31:46
I mean, it’s
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02:31:47
I’m even excited about the way Trump is doing interviews now. Like, he’s doing it it’s like he’s become, like, a wiser person in interviews. Like, he does interview with this lady from, I think it was NBC. The recent one that he did was over an hour. But even the way he was talking to her, she was saying things. She’s like, you know, you would be so much better if you weren’t so biased.
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02:32:05
So he said to her, it was like a kind way of saying to her.
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02:32:08
Always had that and he’s just so intelligent. He’s play he’s playing cards at different ai.
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02:32:13
I think he’s realizing that part of the problem is not just the resistance that he faced, but his reaction to the resistance. And he still slips. Sometimes, like, he just tweets out, I hate Taylor Swift. Oh my gosh. Which I thought was hilarious. Ai couldn’t stop laughing when I saw that.
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02:32:31
I just love irrational tweeters. Right.
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02:32:33
Right. I mean, at what point does, like, the the incoming president gonna just just dunk on somebody?
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02:32:38
Well, he wasn’t winning yet. I think he was freaking out, you know. I honestly think he was freaking out. Did you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because, they had they were doing a ai, and they were all of a sudden making it seem like Kamara Harris was the dream that we’d always been looking for.
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02:32:54
And they were tricking people who ai that she was an unpopular vice president just 3 weeks ago. And everybody was all of a sudden on board and Yeah.
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02:33:02
That one spun around fast.
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02:33:04
Jesus. It was wild to watch. But that was another thing, like, if you can learn from it look. We got through it. It didn’t work. But you you should learn that the government will organize to do that to protect their position of power. Because here’s what’s up. The people that are in power no.
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02:33:18
Listen. We’re not even saying they’re evil. I’m not saying anything bad about them. But the people in the administrations there currently, they’re all gonna lose their jobs. Okay?
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02:33:26
Or they keep their jobs. So if they can keep their jobs, what is what’s the way we keep our job? The way we keep our job is we present her as the best option possible. Even if they don’t think that’s true, they have a vested interest. You’re talking about thousands of people that are in control of these very organizations that were going after social media and were getting them to take down factual information Right.
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02:33:49
Because it was dangerous to their narrative. So they have already shown that they don’t have ethics. They have already shown that they don’t give a fuck about freedom of speech in the first amendment. What they want is to keep their fucking job and keep power and also not get in trouble for some of the shit they did that was maybe illegal, which we wouldn’t even known about if Elon didn’t buy Twitter.
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02:34:09
Yeah. I mean, I agree. I think the Elon buying Twitter was like that. It’s a game changer. A game changer.
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02:34:15
Their fork in the road for civilization.
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02:34:17
Yeah. It’s wild to think, isn’t it?
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02:34:18
Marc Andreessen has said there’s 2 forks in the road. There’s 1, Elon buys Twitter, and 2, Trump turns his head and doesn’t get shot. Those are the 2. Yeah. Those if those two things don’t happen, who fucking knows where we are?
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02:34:31
I I don’t disagree. And and you look at those both scenarios or both, like, 1 in a million. Like, how would, a, the Trump like, Trump turns his head, like, that’s wild.
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02:34:41
Right.
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02:34:42
But then, like, how would a guy like Elon exist, first of all, in our ai?
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02:34:46
Right. What are the odds?
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02:34:47
What are the odds, right, that has the vehicle of Twitter or or, you know
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02:34:52
and all the things line up. Not just has the vehicle, has so much fuck you money Right. That he’s willing to blow $44,000,000,000 on something that’s worth 200,000,000,000 bryden. So or or rather 20,000,000,000 maybe. So one of the things that, like, this is narrative. Like, he’s such a bad businessman.
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02:35:11
Twitter is worth $20,000,000,000 less than when he purchased it. No. No. No. That was never worth that much. He overpaid for it. Right. He overpaid for it on purpose.
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02:35:19
Yeah. Knowingly. Yeah. Knowingly. He just wanted he wanted to take control
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Yes.
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Of this fucking thing that is always been so important to us, which is the first amendment. Yes. Like, here’s my favorite. People keep saying I keep seeing this where people that go over to blue ai, they keep saying, what Elon’s done is highlight right wing voices and accentuate right and Twitter is overrun by right wing now.
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02:35:44
No. No. No. No. This is actually representative of the real country, which is 5050. This is what you never had before because conservative voices were always censored. Always.
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02:35:56
So now conservative voices and progressive voices coexist, and the progressive voices who are the babies don’t like it. Because now they have people that think completely different from them, and they don’t they can’t stop them. They used to silence them. Right. You you used to not be able to say anything
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02:36:12
Of course.
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About certain things. You would get kicked off, and now you could fully express yourself.
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02:36:17
Sure.
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02:36:18
And you’re finding out there’s people you agree with, there’s people you disagree with. That is the world. The world is not some fucked up echo chamber where if you say, you know, to a man is never a woman, you get banned for life. That happened to my friend Meh Murphy. She got banned for life because she said a man is never a woman, which is biologically true. But they were, like, no.
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02:36:41
That’s transphobic for life. For life. For ai. Forever. Bye. So they don’t want any narrative contrary to what they have accepted as doctrine. And that’s what’s so fucked up.
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02:36:54
Remaining dogmatic in the face of alternate information.
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02:36:57
And pushed pushed by the government. This is what’s really important.
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02:37:01
And again, that’s where you kinda look back and go, if something is being pushed by anyone
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02:37:05
Right.
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02:37:05
Follow the money, follow the ram, like, why? So there’s doing
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02:37:08
it under the guise of being progressive. So this is why they think it’s worth doing. They it’s ai if you can allow the government to censor you under the guise of them being on the good side Mhmm. Then then you’re lost because then you’ve you’ve bought into this nonsense. And you have if you just looked at it objectively, you have people that are still supporting the military industrial complex, still supporting overthrowing democratically elected governments and other countries.
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02:37:34
Still the same shit that you hated about the ai, And that same government, you’ve let them into your home and you let them control this most important platform of free speech on the war in the world because you think they’re doing it for your side, which is good. It’s a good thing. Meanwhile, they’re drone bombing people in Yemen. They don’t give a fuck about you. This is so stupid.
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02:37:56
They’re just trying to stay in power, and they knew that they were gonna lose power if that Hunter Biden laptop got out. They’re, like, we’re fucked. This could cost us 10,000,000 votes next.
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Wild part is, I guess, because it’s after the fact, but it doesn’t seem like that whole thing really, really changed the scoreboard. And maybe I could be wrong.
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02:38:13
The Hunter Biden laptop thing? I think it did. I think it did.
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02:38:17
I I don’t think enough people were talking about it.
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02:38:19
They didn’t know. If they weren’t, if they well, first of all, where do people find out things? Most people are not finding out things through the newspaper. No. They’re finding out things through social media. And if you can block it on social media Yeah. Of course. They don’t find out about it.
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02:38:31
Of course. There’s so many things I talk to people about that’s, like, kind of in our world, like, just everyone knows this stuff. And I’ll talk to people just on the street, whatever. They have no idea.
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02:38:40
Yeah. Most people don’t have any idea.
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02:38:42
And that’s where I started going, oh, there’s different narratives being spun to different algorithmic groups because we’re all in the Truman Show, our own little Truman Show. 100%. And we all think that we know what’s going on. And I’m like, hey, guys. We all have our different scoreboard somehow that’s been put up.
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02:38:58
So, like, let’s just question the scoreboard for a minute. And
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02:39:01
learn how to communicate with people they disagree with. And this is the problem with these people that wanted all the right wing voices banned from Twitter. Like, hey, guys. That’s bad for you. It’s bad for you. Yes. And it’s bad for your your own objectivity, your own understanding of the world. Yep.
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02:39:17
And you need to even if someone’s wildly incorrect, if they’re wildly wrong, like, you you need to be able to know that people do think that way. It’s good for you.
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02:39:27
Yeah. Make a good point. And, like, let’s listen. Yeah. Yeah. And I enjoy talking to people from all over, and they’re like much like yourself. And I stupidly got into some some DMs with, like, people just, like, hit me up. They’re like, ai. Then and I’m just ai, oh, I’ll ride the ride. Yeah.
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02:39:42
And I’ll ask questions and this and that and the other, but it was very illuminating. Like, oh, wow. You’re looking at a totally different scoreboard, a totally different game clock, a whole different thing. And it it makes me at least question myself and go, well, maybe I’m watching. I’m the crazy one.
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02:39:56
Maybe I’m
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02:39:57
No. They’re just a Cowboys fan. They’re a Cowboys fan. The Cowboys can do no wrong. Right. And you’re like, fuck you. I like the Raiders. Like, whatever it is.
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02:40:05
Show you guys.
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02:40:06
That’s what it is. It’s teams for people who don’t believe in ai. And that’s politics
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02:40:10
for a lot of those fuckers.
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02:40:11
A lot of those fuckers are not into sports and they’re Or competition. Ai always been super reluctant to the whole team thing in the first place because when I stopped playing baseball and I started fighting, one of the reasons why I did it was, like, I didn’t like that little Billy can drop the ball and I’m a fucking loser.
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Oh, I get it.
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I didn’t like that. I get it. I Sai like to rely on ai. Like I never played a team sport. The most relying on myself to me was ai fighting. I was like, we have the same weight. We there’s no trickery. You’re 3, 2, 1, go. You know, you’re ai, are you ready? Are you ready? Go.
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02:40:44
It was ai so simple
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to meh.
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Ai, this is what I’m looking for. Yep. This is like competition that makes sense to
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02:40:49
me. Yep.
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02:40:49
And this idea of like joining a group of people and all of their opinions Ai have to agree with, like, that’s horrendous
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02:40:58
to me.
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02:40:58
Like that, like, what are the odds they’re gonna be right? What are they even in ai, so many people are so wrong in their ideas. Mhmm. Like, there’s guys in the gym that I’ll hear them giving ai, like, you don’t need submissions. You sana learn submission defense. Like, what are you talking about?
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02:41:14
Don’t tell him that. Like, you should shut the fuck up. Like and this ai a trained fighter in a gym. He’s telling people, you just need submission defense. Like, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. You need to learn how to do it so you can even defend it correctly.
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02:41:26
Just even know what’s out there. Just like listening to the other side. Right.
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02:41:29
It’s like, hey.
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Tell me why you believe x y and z that I think is absurd, but, yeah, give me oh, wow. Okay. Well, now I realize you’re crazy, but at least I know.
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02:41:38
It’s also, like, who who are you training with where you don’t think that works? No. Ai don’t you go train with Fabrizio Overdoom and then tell me you should learn your guard? You don’t know what you are talking about. You are talking nonsense. You are saying you are saying something from this very narrow minded perspective like you can only learn so many skills, like, no.
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02:41:58
You could you should learn the whole thing.
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02:41:59
Right.
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02:42:00
And if you can’t learn the whole thing, you’re in the wrong game. Because these kids that are coming up, guarantee you that. I watch some of these kids that are coming up in the amateur ranks and their kids that are fighting in the UK and they’re gonna make their way in the UFC.
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02:42:10
These motherfuckers are complete and they’re, like, 18. Some of these kids that are fighting in 1 FC, they’re, like, 17, 18 years old, and they’re complete. They can do everything. Like, you better learn how to do everything.
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02:42:22
Yep. You’re gonna meet that guy.
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02:42:24
Yeah. That guy’s out there. And ai, you’re in the wrong game. Right. And if you’re giving ai saying you don’t need to learn that, like, oh.
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02:42:31
Oh, that’s a good like, if you’re ever given advice to someone doesn’t need to expand their horizons, like, that’s just wrong.
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02:42:35
Right. But imagine if that guy’s your coach and imagine you have a team, and and everyone in the team has to believe that submission bullshit. Meh building that
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02:42:43
same narrative.
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02:42:44
Right. And then you get trapped with all these meat heads that think it’s just all about ground and pound, and then you get triangled every weekend. You’re like, I’m tired of getting triangle.
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02:42:51
Yeah. Well, it’s the same, tribalism and strength conditioning too. You either got meh guys are like, oh, all the power lifting moves, that’s all you gotta do. Bench squat. Bench squat, that lift. And it’s ai, all the other guys arya Olympic lift. Ai gotta snatch clean and jerk and everything else is stupid. And you’re like, okay, guys.
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02:43:06
Like and I used to joke. I was like, I can look at your shoes and I could tell you what tribe you’re in and what music you probably miss.
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02:43:12
What shoes are what are the shoes that you look Converse All Stars. A lot of guys live with those.
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02:43:17
Because they’re they’ll be Westside guys.
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02:43:18
It’s a hardcore dude.
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02:43:19
It’s a hardcore dude. He’s gonna run all star he’s gonna work run call Converse. He’s gonna box squat.
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02:43:23
He’s Let me ask
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02:43:24
you this. Sumo dead?
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02:43:25
Why doesn’t Converse make an all star with a wider toe box? You would because I try to lift in Converse. My feet are stupid.
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02:43:31
They’re hard. They’re hard to do. Yeah.
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02:43:32
Like a wide toe box.
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02:43:34
Yeah. Ai
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02:43:34
like a Vivo barefoot like that. But Converse are good because they’re flat. There’s not a lot of there’s no cushion there.
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02:43:40
Depends on what you’re doing. Right? If you’re like more of a of a, you know, wide stance sumo or box squat because your feet your heels aren’t elevated, it’s actually a better situation for squatting. Right. Well,
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02:43:50
if
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you’re an Olympic lifter, you’re gonna be closer, so you sana a heels elevated with a flexible toe. Uh-huh. And that’s also why you look and you’re ai, oh, okay. Well, this is what you’re doing. And then I kinda laugh. Like, the guys with the cross trainers are usually just dudes that do a whole bunch of crap and they’re doing ai and dancing around and whatever.
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02:44:05
But there’s always ai these little tribal things ai, if you’re this person, you’re wearing chucks and you’re listening to Pantera.
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02:44:10
Yeah.
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Like, it’s just part of the of the gig, you know. And it’s always funny and it’s like, alright.
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02:44:15
Some people think you have to ai heavy. If you don’t live heavy, you’re a pussy.
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02:44:19
Oh, or ai you have to listen to music at, like, 8,000 decibels to lift heavy.
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02:44:23
Yeah. And and slap your fucking thighs and scream. I’ve I’ve danced that dance before. Bro, the power of it.
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02:44:29
Oh, I’ve done the soul. I’ve done the I’ve done the Smelly
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02:44:32
salts? Smelly?
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02:44:33
Of course.
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02:44:33
Oh, we do smell salts in here. Let’s
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02:44:35
go. I ai. Yeah. Let’s roll. Let’s go. Woah. It’s a good one. Rough. It’s probably better than what I had back in the day.
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02:44:45
One, and it’s not even, that fresh. Yeah. It’s not even fresh.
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02:44:49
That’s worse. Worse
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than I remember. That’s Jujumufus. Yeah. Yeah. We don’t we arya, an unlicensed, promoter of this brand.
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02:45:00
Yeah. I know. Yeah. We used to do the little capsules and break them, and that’s a whole different animal.
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02:45:04
Yeah. That’s it’s real.
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02:45:06
That’s a whole jar of it. Yeah.
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02:45:07
It’s, like, just it’s potent. The fumes that come out are so strong. When you have a sealed bag, you could smell it on the outside of the bag. Then when you open the bag, you got a sealed ai.
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02:45:15
Just the ears are bleeding
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02:45:16
now. Just the smell from opening the bag is rough.
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02:45:19
Yeah. No. I I just what
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02:45:21
does it do? Does that really help you? Have you ever tried to lift before that and then at it?
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02:45:26
It just snaps the central nervous system. Ai like, you know, when you’re passed out. Right?
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02:45:29
Does it make you a little stronger, you think?
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02:45:31
More mad. More mad. More mad. That’s good. Mad’s good. On on big on big gross motor movements, squats, deadlifts, I used to call, like, deadlifts or just how mad you were.
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02:45:41
They used to have the strongest man competitions all the time on ESPN. Yeah. Well, those dudes were, like, holding on the cars. Oh, yes.
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02:45:47
They had the cars on the ramps.
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02:45:49
Oh, so cross.
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02:45:50
Yeah. The big stones and Atlas Stones are so great.
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02:45:53
It was fun.
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Yeah. Sai watched them all the time in the ai. And then, actually, my dad was, in 1980 at the Playboy Club, he was with Bill Ai when he did the silver dollar deadlift.
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02:46:03
What’s the silver dollar deadlift?
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02:46:04
He had ai 900 something pounds of these ai clear boxes and, and they were filled with silver dollars.
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02:46:10
Oh, wow. And it
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02:46:11
was super cool. And so it was ai an iconic lift and and, you know, pops is like hanging out with his cats and it sai funny because there’s like ai old picture of him and I’m pretty sure, I meh, he was obviously training that I think he was partying pretty hard too.
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02:46:23
So he
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looks straight off of a of a ripper and, and I was like, man, the eighties are awesome.
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02:46:27
It looked like he looked like
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02:46:29
Magnum Sai. It was awesome. Yeah. They
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02:46:32
were just learning things. Oh, man. The ai days, basically. Jeez. It was so cool. You always knew that if you’re watching the strongest man, if the dude’s name was Magnus, he was gonna fuck things up. Yeah. Yeah. He’s always talking about some Magnus.
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Is there a Magnuson, a Samuelson, if there’s
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02:46:45
some sons involved? You know, one of those guys is fighting MMA. He’s been fighting at Marius Pudzianowski. Oh, I remember Marius. Yeah. He went from being a strong man to being ai Terrifying. Really good MMA fighter.
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02:46:58
I could see that.
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02:46:59
In the beginning, he was getting fucked up, but he tried to dive in right away. Like, he tried to ai,
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02:47:04
god, he fought some good fighters, like, right away. When Marius was at the height because we used to do a lot of a lot with the Arnold Schwarzenegger classic.
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02:47:13
Sylvia. That’s ai he fought. Did he? He fought Tim Sylvia, like, really early on, like, when Tim yeah. So he fought Tim Sylvia in his 3rd pro fight and he got
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02:47:22
the fuck beaten
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out of him. Meh. Whatever happened. Ai that was just
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02:47:25
But I never
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02:47:26
I never thought he’d But he fought Butterbean, he beat Butterbean. He lost to James Thompson and he beat James Thompson. Oh, well, no contest it says. Yeah. What a stud. Fought Bob Sai. 1000 Bob Sapp was ai taking some
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02:47:39
kind of dives. My, my buddies to train with Bob.
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02:47:43
Holes Gracie beat Holes Gracie. Yeah. He knocked Holes Gracie out. Yeah. So he’s ai of like a bunch of, like, legit MMA fights.
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02:47:51
Yeah. Pujanowski was, like, one of the first guys I ever saw that was that big that had, like, vascular lats. So we’re in the backstage and it was kinda weird because, like, he was considerably bigger the year than before. And I think even taller too. I was like, this guy wasn’t much.
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02:48:06
Just like
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well, he got How did he get taller?
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02:48:08
I was like, yeah. That’s why I was questioning. He’s on all kinds of crazy shit. Him being taller than that.
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02:48:13
That’s amazing. Gold boy got taller.
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02:48:16
Look at the size
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02:48:17
of that motherfucker.
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02:48:18
Yeah. He was backstage and everyone was, like, big big, but it was, like, Marius is in a whole different category Oh,
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02:48:23
he’s a tank. On multiple guys. Sai if you can find him now though. He’s slimmed down considerably. He still looks fucking huge. But, as an MMA fighter now, he’s, yeah. See there, see. Click on that picture. Now the
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other one. He’s still terrifying.
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02:48:36
Go to what what above it? Right above it.
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02:48:38
That’s not new. That’s
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old. Yeah. But, what year is that? I don’t know.
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02:48:41
It’s clearly old though. 22.
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02:48:42
Oh, because it’s blurry? Years old. Does it say that
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02:48:45
it’s 22 years old? 2,002.
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02:48:47
Oh, okay. See if you can find, some footage of him actually fighting. Maybe there’s some I’m sure he’s got some high there he is ai there. Sai he’s on his knees. Oh, here we go. So he’s he’s still stiff, but he’s got good technique and he’s got a lot of power, man.
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02:49:01
Yeah. Look at the muscles on the back of his neck. He looks like when those bucks turn to rut, when
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02:49:05
their necks blow up really big. But at least ai he’s he’s throwing correctly, hands up ai, and this is all technical work here.
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02:49:14
Well, it’s like Brian Shaw has been doing a little bit of sparring with Derek Wolf. Oh, Jesus. How terrible is that?
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02:49:20
What does he weigh? 390?
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02:49:22
I don’t know. I mean, I know he was up to 440 something at one point. My dad is actually who got him in a strongman. He came by our booth, at 18 years old. And my dad was like, hey, you’re really strong. You should, like, get into this.
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02:49:35
Yeah. He should be on another planet. You’re too big.
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02:49:36
He is
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02:49:37
too big for this planet.
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02:49:38
Yeah. He was probably 2 40.
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02:49:40
That makes me believe in the Anunnaki. Right. You know? Right. You see There’s actually giants that are that, like, where what happened? 100%. How’d you get so big?
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02:49:48
Those dudes you remember Cleve Dean? You ever remember that guy?
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02:49:52
Who’s he?
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02:49:52
So he was a old, they called him ai a pig farmer. He was the one who won the original, World’s Strongest Man, but he was the arm wrestling champion. And meh was like all those old, like, weird. It’s like £440, like, just giant farmer.
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02:50:03
Yeah. There he goes. Woah.
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02:50:05
Yeah. That cat.
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02:50:06
Oh, why is that poor little fellow arm wrestling?
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02:50:08
I mean, look how big that human is. Jesus Christ. Look at his hand. Yeah.
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02:50:13
Oh, my god. Yeah. Look at that photo. That’s big daddy Goodridge. Yeah. It was Meh fighter. Look at that the hand holding the the table in the front. Look at this ai that function. Wild. Right? Yeah. If you could teach that guy to throw a jab, you’d fuck a lot of people up.
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02:50:29
I would like to see a fight between him and Andre the Giant.
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02:50:32
Oh, god. That’d been awesome. Definitely wouldn’t be long.
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02:50:36
Right. Right. Did you ever meet Andre?
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02:50:38
No. I did not. That’d been cool. Yeah. I would like to have met him. Ai been that’d been I met Hulk Hogan twice.
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02:50:44
Did you?
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02:50:45
I met him once when he was super tall and then well, I met him multiple tyler, but I met him once when he’s super tall and then now he’s just ai regular big.
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02:50:52
Really?
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02:50:53
Yeah. Because he’s lost ai 5 or 6 inches of height for his back.
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02:50:56
Oh, you’re just getting compressed?
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02:50:58
His back is all like, fused.
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02:51:00
Wow.
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02:51:01
His whole back is fused. He’s so fucked. How many surgeries did he say he had, Jamie? Some crazy amount of back surgery.
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02:51:07
Really?
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02:51:08
Yeah. His whole back is fucked. Like, he walks with a cane. It’s rough. Have you
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02:51:12
have you done ai in the last 10 years.
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02:51:15
25
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02:51:17
back surgery. Oh, so he just lost all this?
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02:51:19
He sai knees, hips, shoulders, face, abs.
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02:51:24
You’ve I’m sure you’ve met Stallone before. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Have y’all just talked ai random old weird stuff? Like
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02:51:31
No. I didn’t get a chance to talk to him very much. I I interviewed him once for I think it was Spike TV Mhmm. When, I was doing the UFC thing. I interviewed him. Meh was fun.
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02:51:41
He is he’s very similar to you. And sai, like, Wilde, like, remembers everything Mhmm. From, like, those eras of stuff. And and, you know, Gunnar Peterson? So I was at Gunnar’s Gym in LA, and Stallone was in there. I was ai, oh, badass. I’m freaking Stallone. Like, I’m a kid of the eighties.
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02:51:57
And I was like, hey. You know? Would you mind? He sat down with me for 45 minutes.
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02:52:02
Oh, wow.
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02:52:02
And we just talked ai but he mentioned Cleve Dean. Like, he meh, like, all the armwrestlers, the boxers, ai, historian of the human performance world. It was ai, oh, this is so cool. I figured you guys had to, like, have nerded out about it.
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Did you have you ever paid any attention to the old Catch Wrestling guys?
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No. What’s that?
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Okay. Catch wrestling was catch as catch can, which is what they used to call it. I think when it was when when they were in England. Okay. And then when they came over to America, it was called catch like, what what it was was basically wrestling with submissions. And there were certain rules, ai, you could pin a guy or you could submit him and they can tap.
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And there was a few guys that were legendary for their strength and conditioning routines. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Josh Barnett learned under Carl Gotch and Gotch was, like, famous for having, like, this unbelievable gauntlet of strength and conditioning work that you had to be able to get through before he would even train you.
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Really? Yeah. Like, he went over to Japan and gotch trained a lot of guys like there’s a lot of like catch wrestling influence. Well, when you go back to the early days of catch wrestling, ai back go Farmer Burns because Farmer Burns was like one of the what is this? What am Ram watching here? What is Catchas Catch Ken? So these guys Was it was that David Hackenschmidt? Did is that what it was?
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Yeah. Back up for a second. So yeah. Hackenschmidt.
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Yeah. So
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So he’s like one of the fathers of strength conditioning.
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Makes sense. Because a lot of these
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Hack squad.
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Carl Gotch and Hackensmith were duking it out at Comiskey Park. Yeah. And they would have, wrestling matches, but they were real matches.
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Wow.
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And then somewhere along the line, they started doing carnival matches, and then these carnival matches, they had, you know, regular people that they would find and they would like have predetermined outcomes, then it became pro wrestling, and that’s where pro wrestling was
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Okay.
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Given birth to. Right. It was out of this necessity to kinda rig the matches.
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Right. But You’re getting the wahoo chops.
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See, these are kind of enthusiasts that are doing it now ai in a modern setting. But the the guys who really know the stuff ai Josh Barnett has tapped out some legit Brazilian jiu jitsu black belts in competition with catch wrestling techniques. It’s like kumuras, Americanas. That’s cool. They call they call that a double wrist lock though. They have, like, different terminology for some of the same moves.
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But, Farmer Burns was this guy that was he was so legendary with his strength and conditioning that he would hang from a tree. He would literally, like, hang himself.
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Ai hang.
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Because his neck his neck was so built up, and he was a small guy. He was, like, a £160. But he was so jacked and his he literally had ai a pit bull neck. There’s there’s photos of him where he would do this stunt, where he would hang by the neck in front of crowds. Right. Like, look at him. That’s him.
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Oh, wow. Okay.
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That’s Farmer Burns.
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Farmer Burns. Okay. Probably very similar to the the ai Adam if you’ve ever heard of him.
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But you know how fucking strong your neck has to be to and not just hang ai. Hang ai all the time. Look at his neck.
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That’s amazing.
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Look at his fucking neck. But he knew that, you know, if your neck is weak, your body’s weak, your core is weak. If someone collar ties you and you got a neck like that, you can resist it and you could work your shit.
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Yeah. Anything that hangs out of your t shirt, you better train.
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There was a bunch of those guys, back in those days that just had these incredible strength and conditioning ram, and they used a lot of things like steel maces.
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Yep.
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Like Carl Gotch was see if you can find Carl Gotch strength and conditioning routine. Because even, like, as an older meh, when he was teaching people stuff, he would he would show how he maneuvered these, you know, these big fucking faces. It’s, like, super impressive stuff.
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Yeah. It just but it’s maneuvering something, not necessarily lifting it.
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All that functional strength stuff that he would have those guys do 500 bodyweight squats every day every day. Oh, that’s cool. So here’s him back then. Oh, gosh. And a lot of it was ai Hindu push ups and Yeah. Look how flexible he was for a big fucking giant dude. Yeah. Like super flexible.
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So they realized that, you know, like we’re talking about technique is very important but also strength. Yeah. Look at the size of his fucking thighs, dude.
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Yeah. Look at the neck and then
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Yeah. Oh. And so he’d make these guys do these crazy wrestlers bryden and look at how you could do that. Ai, support yourself and pull yourself back up like that. So they kind of, like, can resist against necks. Yeah. So these guys would have these unbelievably grueling physical sessions and then then they do their technique.
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02:56:45
Wow. So just they would attempt to, I guess, be a pre fatigue and sai you’d love to
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do it. Well, also, you just had to be in phenomenal shape because in wrestling, you know, that’s the first thing that goes. Oh, gosh. You you must have ridiculous conditioning to be an elite wrestler. Look at the size of his fucking legs, dude. So Carl Gotch was just ai super famous for this.
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He’s in Japan here teaching these guys. Wow. And obviously, this is black and white. It’s just a long time ago.
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Yeah. Have you ever seen the,
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it’s a Who is he training here? Does it say who he’s working with? Enoki. That’s Enoki. Oh, wow. Of course, Enoki who fought Muhammad Ali.
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Oh, okay. Right.
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You ever see that fight? No. Oh my god. It was like some crazy scam fight where Enoki Did
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you stand on his face?
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Dropped to his back. Yeah. Work his neck. So he’s lifting him up with his neck.
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On his face though, ai. Good job.
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02:57:36
Karl Gosh didn’t fuck around, dude.
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Yeah. That’s obvious. That’ll build your chin.
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02:57:40
So, Inoki had this fight with Muhammad Ali, and Muhammad Ali is trying to punch him and Inoki just goes to his back and kicks his legs. So he’s he fucked Muhammad Ali’s legs up to like, they were really fucked up for quite a while Really? After that. Yeah. So this is what they did.
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02:57:56
He just kicked his knees and kicked his legs. Yikes. And Ali is like, what the fuck? And it’s in Japan, and they’re paying him a a ton of money to do it. And so the referee has to separate him, and the referee is Judo Jean Lebel.
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No way.
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Yeah. So Judo Jean Lebel is the rest the referee. And Inoki is just lying on his back kicking him, and he’s he’s kicking him with, like, roundhouse kicks. Like, look at this. He’s sai he’s fucking Ali’s legs up, man.
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That’s bull.
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When you’re a guy who makes his living off of his footwork, which Right. Was Saloni. Like, this was super dangerous. Look. He’s getting him in a leg lock.
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Sai, obviously, this wasn’t boxing. This
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is No. It was some weird hybrid fight that, you know, I think Ali just needed money and they talked him into doing this. But Are you the ai
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we get today? Is that sort of ai what this was going on? Just crazy exhibition real fights that are happening?
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Well, sort of, but this was real.
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Call it.
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Inoki was really trying to hurt him. He really did kick the shit out of his legs. And Ali really see if you can find any articles on Ali’s legs after the Inoki bout.
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That’s bull.
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I think he really fucked his legs up because he didn’t know how to check kicks. He didn’t know ai what to even do. And all of a sudden, this ai on his back, roundhouse kicking his legs and stomping at his knees. Yeah. So who knows if his knees got hyperextended, tore his meniscus, like, who knows what the fuck happened there?
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Jeez. Have you ever seen there’s an old Polish documentary, this them training in the 19 seventies, and they’re doing all that kind of crazy stuff
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Something like
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2 blood cells. Throwing logs and Look
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at this. He has blood clots
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in the leg.
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Where I
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see it. Where
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does it say that? Nearly ended Ollie’s career.
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It was in the right before I clicked on it, it said it in the, like, little
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Mhmm. Sentences. Finally, the 15th round, they call it a draw. Wow. Ali is bleeding from the legs. He gets an infection in his legs, and he almost has to have an amputation. Holy shit. Extended stay in the hospital was the best case scenario coming out of the fight. Wow. What year is this?
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Ai, suffering 2 blood clots and an infection in his leg from Inoki’s vicious grounded kicks according to the sweet science. Wow. Wow. When he finally did so look at this. So he said he continued his tour of Asia despite this competing in exhibition matches in South Korea and the Philippines before returning to the United States.
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When he finally did get back to the US, Ali needed to stay in Los Angeles Hospital for multiple weeks to recover from injuries sustained in the Inoki fight. Holy shit, man.
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He put him on ice, man.
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They were concerned Ali’s injuries could even be life threatening. Well, that’s staph infection. He was bleeding from the legs, got an infection in his legs, almost had to have an amputation. Bro, staph infections are fucking terrifying. You had one? Yeah. Yeah.
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I’ve had 2. Ai, twice about staph. I had a
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blood clot.
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Caught it both times. I had
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a blood clot one time. I got jammed up, smoked my ankle, and Sai was like, didn’t think much of it. Felt like just kinda weird. It’s got hot, got swollen. I’m competing all over the world, and I’m like, yeah. It kinda feels weird. And, the doctor’s like, hey, man. You need to get that checked up.
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Of course, jumped back on a plane, went across the country, and they said that I had a blood clot from my knee to my hip. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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So it’s blocking off the blood coming in.
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Yeah. And that the my calf was a giant. And, what do they do about that? Just arya taking blood thinners and stuff. And so which was cool,
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but you can’t get cut.
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I couldn’t get cut which is kinda funny because I got on the blood thinners and I just pulled alligator tag ai a couple days before. No. So I told I told the ai. I was like, he’s like, don’t
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do anything to get you cut.
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I was like, well, I’m going alligator hunting tonight. He’s like, and I was like, no. No. Seriously. He’s like, no. You’ll bleed out if you get bit. Ai like, yeah. But I probably won’t bleed out. So I remember like in the middle of the night ai the swamp giving myself shots of whatever that stuff was in my stomach and then Oh
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my god.
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It was I’m not very smart.
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So, how long do you have to take the blood thinners for? I took them
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for about 6 to 8 months. Woah. Because I started on the shah, and then I went to, like, the warfarin tabs, and they had to to keep checking me, keep checking me because they had to let it all break out. And so I’d have to once a month get it ultrasounded. And
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There’s no better way. Can’t they pull that out of there or something? Yeah.
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That’s what
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I would have thought. Tweezers. You know?
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That’s crazy. It’s crazy. So I was at Christmas party couple months later, and my doctor saw me and he was like, hey. And he was had a couple beers in him. So he’s like, hey. He’s like, you’re gonna do you or you’re one of your descendants are gonna do something special for this world. I’m like, what do you mean?
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And he was like he’s like, you know where that blood clot should have been? Ai go, where? And he just tapped me on the chest. He’s like, right there. He goes, no way you shouldn’t have died on that one. I go, really? He goes, you heated it. You iced it. You massaged it. You flew. You trained.
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He goes, you did everything if you were trying to commit suicide by blood clot for months. He goes, how it didn’t travel? I have no idea. Woah. And but when someone tells you that, you’re like,
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well, that’s cool. I guess things
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are gonna go awesome for a while. This is Or you just got lucky. Alright. Yeah. And then what happened, my, my lower leg basically, ai, they said it grew another vein. So it grew a bypass around it. No. So it all the swelling started going down, and they’re like, ai. You one of your, like, minimized veins or smaller veins actually grew in in capacity and just worked its way around. They’re ai, the human body will do that.
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I’m like, so it just worked its way around the bypass.
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What would have happened though if you didn’t get that vein diluted with the blood thinners or that blood clot?
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Something that kicked loose ai meh. It was right at my hip.
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It doesn’t go away? Your body doesn’t absorb it ever? I mean, if
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if the, what, the hematocrit or whatever the blood, the the the thickness of the blood was still of that, if it ever broke loose, he’s like, it would have gone to your heart or your head. That would have been a stroke or heart attack. And, you know, but it’s weird ai and it was just an ankle injury.
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Ankle
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That’s crazy.
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Smoked it. It’s like, oh, okay. You know, I’ll be fine. Start walking it off. And what screwed me is the next day, it was all black and blue, the whole deal. Right? I’m walking, walking, walking. Everything’s not not fine. It sucked.
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And I had to go on a business trip, and I was ai, let me go check and make sure it’s not, like, broken that I have to get it, like, actually fixed. I went to the doctor, and they’re like, hey. You you gotta mobilize this thing. And I’ve been walking for a speak. And, so they they wrapped it up and mobilized it. And, I remember I was on a plane.
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I was sleeping, and it felt like someone lit a fire in my calf.
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And I
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was like, woah. What was that? And I went to my hotel room, and I filled the trash can up with ai. Sai just dumped my leg in there to cool my leg down, and that was ai in May. And I competed at the Hammer World Championships all the way to Labor Day. And I was in San Francisco, and I’m like, something’s weird.
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I pulled down my knee sleeve, and one of the docs was there. And he’s like, what is going on with your leg? I’m like, Sai think I pulled a hamstring or something. He’s like, nah. You didn’t.
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And so I I came back, call my guy at, South Carolina Sports Meh, and he got me in right away. And he’s like, dude, you got a big ass blood clot. I’m like, you gotta get this squared away now.
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Holy. Imagine if he didn’t do that. Ai you just just die.
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You just been like, hey.
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I’m One day you would have just died.
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I would have been a 30 year old really healthy guy that just keeled over. And so it’s ai that kinda hits you. And that was that was honestly ai of the end of my competitive sports world because I started realizing, like, all I cared about was winning, and all I cared about was training and winning.
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And I, like, I I forewent social relationships, being smart with my body and all this stuff because I was like, no. I’m gonna win worlds. I’m gonna go do this. I’m gonna be top, blah, whatever. Right? And it was just ai drive, drive, drive.
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And I was like, man, I didn’t see this very obvious thing that could and should have killed me. It’s like Sai need to grow up. Like, I need to, like, refocus how I’m looking at these things. And so I had to mature and just like, okay. I’ve competed for 15 or 20 years or whatever it was at that point.
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It’s like, maybe take a pump pump the brakes for a second and just go ai, am I making good choices for my family, good choices for my business, people that rely on meh? Because if, you know, cool and all things, but if Bert just keels over, like, you know, that’s that’s not optimal for really anyone.
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03:06:10
It’s it’s interesting how you can get completely caught up in one goal to the point where you don’t see anything else in life and you just miss out on a giant chunk of life. But if you wanna be the best at something, it’s kind of the
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the trade offs.
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The Neil Brennan joke, that’s the trade off.
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Yeah. I I’ve talked about, like, the the rabbit hole guy versus the 90% guy. And, like, the 90% guy, which I think I’ve kinda turned into, like, if I train for something and get into something, I’ve generally found if I really care about it, I could be as good as 90% of the world at it, ai, a lot of different things.
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Right.
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But if you’re the guy that wants to go down there to be the best, the goat, you have to go down so far around the rabbit hole and forsake all other things Yeah. To where you lose sight of of reality.
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By the way, you could still not make it. And
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you could still not make it.
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Yeah. You could be in the same weight class as Jon Jones.
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03:07:06
Right. And you’re just like, I picked the wrong year to be alive. Right?
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03:07:09
Yeah. There’s Mike Tyson 1986. Whoops. You wanna be a heavyweight boxer? Oh, no. Yeah.
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03:07:15
Yeah. And that’s Tyrell Biggs. That’s the weird part. It’s ai you could be the rabbit hole guy and go so far down and lose sight of life Mhmm. And still be the number 3 guy ever. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, I kinda ai use, like, the Yoda, like the Dagobah forest. Like, that’s where people went to get all the force. Like, they don’t write books about the 90% guy. Right.
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They write books about the weirdo that lived in the forest. There’s a little green man that knew the force. Mhmm. However, though That guy might be miserable. Might be miserable, man. Yeah. And I’ve seen it a lot.
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Yeah. You gotta know when to stop. Yeah. Ai gets fun to do in the beginning, but you gotta know when to stop.
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03:07:50
I mean, I would say you’re probably as good or better than 90 plus percent of the human population at ai. Probably. Probably. Yeah. You’re probably better at 90% of the human population at shooting a bow. Probably.
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03:08:05
Yeah. Probably.
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Right. And so you start looking at things, you’re oh, the thing Yeah.
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But you wanna be Levi Morgan. There’s a long road.
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It’s a long road.
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It’s a long road. Yeah. Long ass road. And, like, if you wanna beat Gordon Ryan, you’re probably never gonna catch him because he’s already still doing it.
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Yeah. And he’s not doing archery, and he’s not doing a podcast.
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Exactly. And he’s not doing a thing.
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And then sai, like, I’ve had to kinda went to this thing. I was like, am I do I sana be a 90% guy that enjoys semi balance in my life and is really passionate about 3 or 4 or 5 things and be really, really good? Or do I wanna throw all my chips in? And the probability is I won’t be the goat.
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03:08:42
Right. Especially if it’s a competitive thing. Right. The the where it gets weird real tricky with some people is if maybe it’s a thing that’s not a competitive thing and you can keep doing it. Yes. Like meh friend Gary Clark junior, when he records albums, he goes crazy. Mhmm.
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03:08:57
And he locks himself in the studio and he’s there for, like, fucking 130 minutes, like, every day. And it drives his family nuts. He’s just, like, constantly working on his music because to him, like, he wants to be all in. Yes. Ai, that’s what that’s where he lives.
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03:09:11
That’s where he creates his great music when he’s all in. And you could sacrifice all the other things in your life. You’re not gonna work out, you’re not gonna go on trips, you’re not gonna all you’re doing is just whatever that thing maybe it’s painting. Whatever it maybe it’s writing books. Whatever it is, you’re all in.
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And although it’s beautiful,
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I don’t know if I’m that guy.
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You don’t have to be. You know?
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And also Ai had to look at myself.
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03:09:36
In the greater, you know, if you’re looking at the universe, if you look at the greater picture of everything, it’s not really important what you do here in this life. But for you, it is. Correct. And the problem is if you’re compelled to try to be number 1 and you don’t really chase it, you’re always gonna have that thing in the back of your head.
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Ai never really went for it. Yes. At least you went for it for a long ai, And that’s the thing. Like, that I think is the best way. Go for something and then but know when to stop.
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03:10:07
That’s where it was for me.
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Don’t be a 70 year old dude out there in the Olympics who’s throwing a hammer.
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03:10:12
Please don’t. Please don’t.
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03:10:15
No. He was not there. Ai whoever threw the hammer.
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03:10:18
Gosh. Well, actually, my one of my mentors, Judd Logan. So he this dude made 4 Olympic teams and, in the hammer and then got out of it, and he was a coach. And then every time that he would hit a a 50 year or ai year or 60 year, he would train for 3 or 4 months, break the all time world record in that way in that age class, and he would go off again for 5 years.
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03:10:39
Good lord.
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And he would just come back and he would do it again and just shatter the world record, and he would come back and he do it. And he just did that up until pretty much when he when he passed.
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03:10:47
Did he keep training the entire time? Like, how did he be able to come back?
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03:10:51
He he was very genetically gifted, and he would he would just he was a coach. He was always doing it
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03:10:55
and ai screwing around. But he gets serious.
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03:10:57
But then he would get serious for the last little bit. And and all of his kids would come out, all these guys he coached. And, I mean, he was just a oh, gosh. I wish
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03:11:05
he would. Ai, when he was, like, 70, how far away was he from guys who were 30?
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03:11:11
He knocked me out of the Olympic trial finals in 2004, and he was 40 gosh. He was probably 45, 46 years old. He’s, like, a little bit younger than me now, but I was 27 and in my prime. Wow. And and he would that would have been his 6th Olympic ai. And you’re just like, but it’s Judd. Right? Like, he’s a mythical Bill Brasky creature. Like, he’s he’s Judd. And you’re just like, dang it. Yeah.
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Judd’s gonna figure out a way to figure out a way. And he just generally his 4th birthday
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03:11:46
age class world records did he hold?
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He went 50, ai, and 60, and then he he passed away a couple years ago. Actually, he got, had cancer, and then he had some COVID COVID complications. It sucked, man. I mean, you talk about a guy that’s just that statuesque, like, best conversationalist, like, poured into all these kids and stuff.
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And he’s ai, he’s the coach you always wanted to have. You know, and you’re just like, ah, but things happen.
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It’s interesting when you watch the way different people live their life because you could see benefits and you could see where it would be a detriment to the rest of your ai. And it allows us to look through these mythical creatures like that guy, these Jon Jones type characters, these Carl Gotchas and go, but is that what I sana do?
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03:12:32
Correct. Ai you should know what you wanna do. Don’t get tricked into doing something you don’t wanna do because there’s people out there that really wanna do that. And if you don’t really wanna do that, you’re never gonna beat them anyway.
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03:12:43
Ever. Ever. You’re already most likely not going.
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03:12:47
Right. Already most likely not going to. But if you’re not really sure Oh,
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03:12:50
you’re dead in the water.
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03:12:52
You got one foot in, guess what, bitch? You’re gonna get that foot’s gonna be snatched up by a crocodile. Yeah.
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03:12:56
One one foot in the grave and one in a roller skate.
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03:12:59
Yeah. You can’t you you can’t compete with a really obsessed talented person if you’re not really obsessed and talented.
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03:13:05
And the weird part is is when you you look at yourself and kind of question that, like, am I a 90% guy? And some people aren’t either. Some people are ai, I don’t care what happens, man. I’d be average. And that just sounds horrible. Right?
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03:13:16
Yeah. That doesn’t sound like you’re gonna get anywhere and you’re not gonna be interesting.
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03:13:20
Not in the least.
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03:13:21
Yeah. That’s that’s the problem. Like, you’re not gonna attract other interesting people because they’re not gonna wanna be around you. Right. And the biggest part really funny.
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03:13:27
Well, that’s helpful. Yeah. The biggest part about being interesting is being interested. Right. You know?
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03:13:33
Ask a
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03:13:33
lot of questions. Be interested in
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03:13:34
this crap.
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03:13:35
Like Yeah. That’s where I think you’re one of your superpowers ai you have a steel trap for a bryden. You’ve recalled things that we’ve talked about. Like, I was like, I didn’t know he was listening to that. So it was pretty impressive. But, the thing is when you come to that, like, am I a rabbit hole guy? Am I a 90% guy? In my opinion, those are the only 2 choices.
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03:13:56
Like, the other ones, so screw those. But when you ai, like, really look at, like have you ever seen, like, where your line really is? My line? Your line. Like, when like, you’re like, I I will go this far
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03:14:09
Mhmm.
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03:14:10
But that’s as far as I’ll go. Right. Like, down that rabbit hole to whatever that is or whatever stressor or whatever that may be.
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03:14:16
Mhmm.
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03:14:17
And, it’s weird. I hadn’t done it. And and in recent, like, I had an experience. It was like, okay. There’s my life. Okay. That that’s that’s
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03:14:25
What what did you do?
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03:14:27
I was in Africa, and, and and I was hunting cape buffalo, which is the most dangerous thing
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03:14:33
that kills bow or ai?
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03:14:34
Rifle, but still it it Good. One of those things. You get in there close and
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03:14:38
Yeah. Go with the boat. Right? Oh, you could die. Yeah.
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03:14:40
You die. It was pretty hairy. It kills more people than everyone. Yeah. We had an awesome ai. They’re actually awesome. We did the inner loins that night Yeah. In Namibia. It was fantastic. And the cool part about that is we donated the meat, to the local village, and they were super stoked.
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03:14:55
Wild part is after we gutted it, there’s, like, you know, £400 of guts on a buffalo. And I’m like, are y’all gonna, like, truck this out to the desert or out to the place and, like, let the hyenas? And they’re like, no. The villagers are taken. I was like, the guts. And they said, yeah. No. Like, there will be a party tonight. No. No running water.
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03:15:14
Hearts, lungs, liver, stomach, you know, guts. Mhmm. And they go, they will be so excited to get that. And so that was a for me, I go, oh, we think we understand poverty. We think we understand in this country, like, what not having. We’re ai, oh, yeah.
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03:15:31
I didn’t have a whatever. Like, no. This village is stoked to get £400 of guts off a Cape buffalo that’s been laying in the in the woods dead for the last 10 hours. Really? They were pumped.
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03:15:45
Old guts.
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03:15:46
Old guts. Old hot guts. And we put a tarp over it sai before we could get back out there to get the bull out of the, you know, out of the jungle or whatever it would be called. So so it didn’t get too per hot, but it struck a big black 2,000 pound animal.
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03:15:59
Shah are they doing with the guts? How are they eating it?
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03:16:01
They said they’ll they’ll wash out all the fluids or all the guts, shit, and everything else, and they’ll put it on the grill and fry it and do all this like they said protein does not go to to waste in Africa at all.
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03:16:12
Wow. So I’m
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03:16:12
like, you guys are gonna of course, eat a heart, but they’re like, yeah, they’re eating heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, ai, anything like
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03:16:19
What does lungs taste like? Boy, I
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03:16:21
don’t know. I don’t know if I wanna
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03:16:23
know. I’ve always thought about it. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, when you Yeah. Open up an elk, you look at it, like, can you eat this? Like, what does this taste like? Have you
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03:16:30
eaten heart?
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03:16:30
I’m sure. Yeah. Oh, I eat Heart’s good at all. Ai? I love heart. I eat lung I mean, liver rather. I eat the liver and I eat the heart.
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03:16:36
Yeah. But, you know, and then It
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03:16:38
seems like lungs are noble. I’ve never heard anybody.
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03:16:42
Ai and and then stomach and stomach ai. And I guess that’s what what haggis is. Right? It’s sai Yeah. Haggis, lungs, and
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03:16:48
You know what I know a lot of guys do? They take the caul fat from the Yeah. And then they chop up meat and then they’ll wrap it in the caul fat and put it
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03:16:56
on the grill. Ranella did that, didn’t he?
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03:16:58
That looked real cool. The grill good. Season it and then wrap it in caul fat and then slice it open.
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03:17:03
We ate the inner loins and they were really good, but they were talking about how the the the villagers out there, they’re like, yeah. All this meat that these hunters get, like, it all goes to the villages. I’m thinking people understand, like, how much that changes the game.
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03:17:15
So when you say your line, what did you mean by that?
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03:17:17
Well, they had another another opportunity, to do a lion hunt.
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03:17:23
Yeah. I’m not interested.
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03:17:24
That was my ai.
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03:17:25
Yeah.
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03:17:25
It was like, yeah. For multiple reasons.
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03:17:27
Well, first of all, you’re not gonna eat it. Right. You could. I mean, I know dudes who eat mountain ai. It’s delicious. Mountain lion is actually really good. According to everybody that I know that’s eating it, they’re not ai.
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03:17:39
Yeah.
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03:17:39
There’s people that are iffy on bear.
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03:17:41
I I enjoy bear. The rivets, of course.
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03:17:43
They the great the bears. Yeah. But the reality of a lion is I don’t think anybody’s out there eating African lions.
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03:17:49
Yeah. Ai right. And they’re just a multitude. I mean, they’re big I mean, I got nothing against the lion to start with.
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03:17:55
They’re too cool.
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03:17:56
They’re cool, but they’re they’re big. They’re scary. They hide really well. They’re really fast.
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03:18:01
They’re dope.
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03:18:01
There’s a lot of snakes.
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03:18:03
Exist, you’d be pumped. They’ve if you like, if somebody put one of those in a movie, ai, what a cool awesome
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03:18:07
animal. Yeah. Yeah. You know? So it’s just ai, okay. Like, for multitude of reasons, like, I’m I’m a hunter ai. I enjoyed it’s like, okay. Not that one. Okay. And then not this. And then you start looking at even training. You’re like, hey. I’ll do this, but I won’t do that. Right.
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03:18:20
And,
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03:18:21
I don’t sana shoot anything out ai meh mouth sana eat. I’m not interested in that. I’m not interested in going to hunt something that’s inedible. I just don’t get it. Ai get how people wanna do it, but I feel like the same about fishing. Ai kinda wanna catch stuff that you can’t eat.
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03:18:34
Yeah. You fish a good bit, don’t you?
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03:18:36
Yeah. I love fish. What’s your
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03:18:37
favorite thing to fish?
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03:18:39
I mean, if I really have the time and I don’t, it would be like salmon fishing in a river. Really? That’s some of my the most fun because they’re so big and they’re so strong and the way they jump. And there’s something about rivers, like ocean’s cool. I love ocean fishing, but it’s ai less personal. Mhmm. There’s something about being on a small boat on a river and you hook a saloni.
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03:19:01
It’s
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03:19:03
Yeah.
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03:19:03
You see a jump? Like, my friend Arya and Ai, we went up to, Anchorage a few years back when we did a show. We we did some salmon fishing. It was really fun. And then I’ve done a lot of, trout fishing. I love bass fishing. Yeah. Bass fishing is always fun. Topwater.
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03:19:20
Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. Late summer.
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03:19:22
Watched them smash
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03:19:23
that. That’s the best. Big frog across
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03:19:25
the lily pad. It’s fun. Yeah.
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03:19:27
It’s fun. Have you ever done sai, probably would be a bad idea for you, but, like, I put a green light under my dock in my house.
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03:19:35
Oh, wow. Dude,
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03:19:37
cheat code.
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03:19:38
Oh, and they all come to it.
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03:19:39
It’s the coolest thing.
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03:19:40
Oh, yeah.
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03:19:41
Sai this in in the, spring and, you know, February through March, April, and then right now, there happened again. The striped vatsal school under it.
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03:19:49
Oh, woah.
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03:19:50
And it’s like, you know, you’re catching 4 to 15 pound fish every ai.
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03:19:55
That’s awesome.
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03:19:56
Every night. And so I’ll sit up at the house. Cheating. And I’ll, yeah. No. Seriously. So I’ll be with the wife and she will have a glass of wine. I was like, alright. We’ll go to bed. And I was like, well, I’m gonna go fish. She’s like, you’re going fishing now. Sai I’ll be back. Don’t worry.
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03:20:07
And because you only get, like, 2 or 3 casts before they blow off the ai, but you’re going to catch 2 or 3 fish every night on the first 2 or 3 casts.
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03:20:15
Oh, wow.
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03:20:15
Which is awesome.
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03:20:16
Plus sai great way to get food.
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03:20:17
Yeah. No. Sai you’re you gotta catch a 7 or 8 pound striper, gut and throw them in ice and then do it. So I would literally fish, catch my 2 or 3 fish, and sometimes I got them where there’s fly fishing for. So you catch ai a 10 pound stripe on a fly rod which is badass.
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03:20:31
Dude, I went to Mexico once and we, went mahi mahi fishing Yeah. And then they cooked it within an hour of us catching it. Son. I was like, oh meh god. This is so much better than any fish I’ve ever had before. And then you realize that the more time it waits after it’s dead, it goes to supermarkets, it’s on a shelf, you lose all that. You lose it.
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03:20:50
The flavor of them ai when they pull it, I’m like, this is the best fish I’ve ever had in my life. It’s incredible. Yeah. It was so delicious.
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03:20:57
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s the best. You you need to get one of those those green lights on your dock.
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03:21:02
Sounds like fun.
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03:21:03
Oh, man. Deep glow is the one. Yeah. I’ll send you the link for it.
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03:21:07
Okay.
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Super easy to do. And mine kicks on right before before dark.
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03:21:11
Oh, nice.
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03:21:12
And, or if you get up early because they had the longest time to school on it. And so they’re, like, everything’s silent. You go out there and smash a couple sana comes up. It’s great.
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03:21:20
Oh, that’s a good move.
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03:21:21
No. It’s it’s and then the kids too. Because then
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03:21:24
Right. It
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03:21:24
makes you actually a bad fisherman because after that, you’re just ai, I don’t feel like going out. Like, I’ll just catch them tonight. Right. And then everyone starts, like, marking your spots.
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03:21:33
It’s like the guys out here that hunt over deer feeders.
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03:21:35
Yeah. Yeah. It works.
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03:21:37
It does work. It works. But they they’ll tell you, it’s like, well, we hunt, but soon. Yeah. It’s kinda it’s kinda like farming.
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03:21:44
Yeah. It’s fun. Yeah. It’s just different. Yeah. It’s not elk.
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03:21:48
No. It’s definitely I mean, you’re sitting down
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03:21:50
the whole
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day waiting, eating chips. It’s good it’s