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Scott Storch is a multi-platinum, Grammy Award-winning record producer, songwriter, and entrepreneur, with over 50 billion streams and more than 100 million records sold worldwide.
His new single “On My Own” featuring Abbie Stair is out now.
https://www.1217music.com
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#2233 – Scott Storch Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the conversation covers a wide range of topics, from personal experiences in the music industry to the nature of human interactions and emotions. The episode features a discussion about the podcast “Protect Our Parks” with Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, and Mark Normand, highlighting its unique and humorous approach, including plans for a potential episode at Mar-a-Lago.
A recurring theme is the complexity of human emotions and experiences, with a critique of reducing individuals to simplistic tabloid headlines. The speakers emphasize the importance of genuine human connection, advocating for in-person interactions over virtual ones, as they believe this fosters a more authentic experience.
One of the speakers shares their journey in the music industry, detailing their time with The Roots and the decision to leave the group to pursue personal growth and creative freedom. They discuss the challenges of balancing personal and professional life, including struggles with substance use and the subsequent involvement in the rehabilitation business to help others.
The episode also touches on the speaker’s passion for music, particularly from the 70s, and their plans to develop new artists and produce their own album, drawing inspiration from past musical influences. They express a sense of personal and professional fulfillment, attributing recent successes to a shift in mindset and openness to new opportunities.
Overall, the episode conveys messages about the importance of authenticity, emotional complexity, and the pursuit of personal and creative growth. It offers insights into the music industry and the value of maintaining balance in life.
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Showing my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Those are the 3 I probably have most iconic.
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So what do you what are the
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what we’re rolling now. So tell
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me what what’s, like, the most iconic beats you’ve created?
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Oh, we’re already rolling? We’re rolling. Hey. Fuck it. What’s up? How you doing? Hey. I mean, look. I’ve got not 100, but 1,000 of songs. I’ve got Thousands.
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For sure.
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Thousands of songs. I’m told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still Dre. We got Give me a little of that real quick. Let’s see. Now if you watch my fingers while I’m playing that, if I was just, like, a fucking sterile, like, just basic mother, I’d be playing.
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But I wanted to do it, like, sloppy. Right. Like, that perfect imperfection. Like, you don’t want sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice bucket. You know what I’m saying? Like, you don’t want things always, like, perfect picture perfect. Right.
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You like a little grit on your hardwood floor.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That’s where, you know, that perfect imperfection.
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How did you get started? How did you get started making beats? Like, what what started you in music?
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What started me in music? Okay. All the way back? All the way back. All the way back listening to, like, Ozzy Osbourne and Cheap Trick in a mirror with a tennis racket thinking, wow. I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit. And then it my parents had, like, a upright piano in the house, and it was a piece of furniture. And I had cassette tech.
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You know, at that time, it was all about cassettes, and I had a little baby cassette thing. I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs.
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Just just self taught?
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Yeah. And, you know, I ended up taking 3 or 4 lessons, and the guy was like, you should just teach yourself. Really? Yeah. Like and my family didn’t we didn’t have no money, like, and my mom to get to the piano lesson. All that shit was just I did my thing. And, like, it’s at a point where my mom and dad were like, can you go outside and play with the kids? I’m tired of hearing this shit. Like, no.
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No. No. No. No. And then that evolved into I moved with my father. My parents had divorced.
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My dad was a court reporter, stenographer, and we moved from I grew I was born in New York as an infant, moved to Florida, but when I was 15 just turning 15, I moved to Philly with my dad, and I was really getting into music. I was experiencing, like, hip hop now in my head.
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Like
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What year was this?
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I don’t even know what year it was. How old
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are you now?
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I’m 50.
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Okay. 7 years different than me. So yeah. Okay.
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I’m real horrible with the years, but, talking early 90.
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Yeah. Extremely early. The beginning of, like, the the big hip hop boom out
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of the park. And when I first found a love for hip hop, it was this music that they were sampling all these, like, cool, like, Fender Road sounds, like, like, say, Tribe Called Quest. That’s not one of mine, but it was that, like, relax yourself, girl. No. It’s like that, like, native tongue, the de la soul Right. Right.
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All that type of shit was heavy, and, like, I was like, wow. Music is really great in this. It was different than, like I mean, I love NWA, and I love, like but that was, like, hardcore shit. And then, like, this musical guru and jazz and, like, all this shit was coming around. So I got into that, and I couldn’t really afford a keyboard.
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I’m living in Philly. My dad was like I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to, like, get in the music scene at this young age, and it was like, yo. Go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out. He’s trying to do me a favor with tough love, but I decided to get the fuck out. 15.
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And now I’m, like, cow chopping at homies, and that, led to moving into the fucking hood in West Philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager that was a videographer that I met at my dad’s court reporting firm. And kinda like halfway against my dad’s will, he took me in, and we started hitting the pavement, man, and I joined the roots.
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They were called the square roots at that time. You know, the band on Jimmy Shaw, Questlove, etcetera. And, I didn’t have much money, and I bought what they call a Fender Rhodes. This is, like, big keyboard, which is they’re very expensive now because it’s a vintage. But at that time, I could get that for, like, $200.
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And I got the keyboard, had a couple of broken notes on it and shit, and I just made my sound with that. It was just like this soulful, this thing. You know what I mean? And, joined the roots, and now I’m a band member. You know?
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Simultaneously, I’m doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has, like, these, like, shell houses that I got to live in one for a while, and then I got my first place. I’m, like, living in this thing. He lived across the street in a kind of a nice one. This is, like, super horrible neighborhood, but he’s got almost, like, the whole block And, like, there’s construction site on the 1st floor.
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I had to walk up, and this was, like, semi finished one with no electricity, but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip for for my electricity. I ran everything on that one power strip. Like, I had a fucking a space heater like this because it was freezing cold. I had, like, a keyboard set up, like, so I could do my thing, and I was just I made my existence.
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And Wow.
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If I had never made it, I was like, man, I’ll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day. But I’d rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit. Right. And school wasn’t for me. Couldn’t focus on anything but the music.
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It always bums me out that there’s so many people out there like that that do have they have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug into normal jobs. You don’t realize like, hey, there’s other jobs out there. There’s other things you can do. It’s not conventional.
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The path’s not clear, you know, but you wanna get into music. You really fucking love music? Get get into music. Yeah. Get into music, and nobody tells you that.
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Man, nobody tells you. And they don’t tell you, like, find your niche within music. Yeah. Maybe you can do the actual music, but you can become a promoter or you can become there’s so many different fields within music that you can do if you’re an expert. If you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself because we know if we’re good or not. Like Right.
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You know?
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But what makes talent? What do you think?
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Passion is no talent. Passion. Yeah. If you’re a passionate person and you love something so much, you’re gonna end up being good at it, I think. If you’re doing it to get money or something else, it’s like, it’s questionable. You just wanna be cool because you’d like music, but if you’re so passionate about this shit that you’re showing results and you’re growing and you’re seeing that when you watch people’s reactions, I still do to this day.
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I’m in the studio. I’m playing some shit. Like, I have this, like, weird thing where I start receiving satellite, and I’m, like, playing, and I don’t even want to anymore. Satellite.
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So, like, where do you use?
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I’m not even there anymore. I’m just, like, all of a sudden, I’m just doing this thing. I’ve been doing it for 30 years, and I watched the room. I’m like, oh, they like this one. Okay. Let’s use this. You know what I mean? That’s how I know if I’m moving people.
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Receiving satellite is a great way to put it. Yeah. Because that’s what it feel like, I always say that, like, there’s sometimes I write things. I’m like, I didn’t really write that.
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That blacked out. And it got ready.
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Yeah. That’s that came from somewhere. I didn’t have any effort involved in this. It just came to me, like a gift from the gods.
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Yeah. It’s it was
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That’s why they always called the muse, you know, because the people that were, you know, like Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them. Yeah. We all do though. Right?
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For real. Yeah.
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But doesn’t everybody kind of say that when they’re being honest? Like, anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever.
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It flows through. Yes. If you have to work for it, it’s contrived sort of, like, I feel somewhat. Like, if something doesn’t come I I push myself. Yes. Because there’s technical stuff that you have to, but that initial light bulb that goes off and just it’s just
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Right. In that zone. Yeah.
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Downloading satellite.
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And it’s the the thing about it is it’s it’s so hard to control. It’s just it’s it comes. It goes. It’s there. It’s not. What’s that water you’re drinking? What is this crazy?
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You know what?
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It’s bag water.
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I’m a tell you what it is. I get, like, inflammation. Like, I’m playing piano, whatever. Like, I sometimes get, like, a little bit, like
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Okay.
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And this is, like, hydrogen water. Okay. And I I fuck with it. A friend of mine, my boy Adam, like he’s like, listen. I think you should try my water. He’s investing all kinds of things, and he’s just he’s been my best one of my best friends my whole life. This guy Adam Winder. He’s a fuck cool guy.
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I’ve been down and out and fucking dude would take me in and, you know, we’re both meshugan is, but, you know, he has this fucking water and, him and randomly enough, my boy who’s a big songwriter, Pooh Bear, they’re giving a go at this water thing. So but I like it. It’s h factor water, dude.
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Yeah. I’ve heard of this stuff.
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It’s really good.
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So when you say you’re getting, inflammation in your hands, like carpal tunnel type? Yeah.
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We kinda like yeah. Sometimes things like, sometimes if it’s cold and my hands, it’s, like, freezing or something. I can’t really, like, go in and, like Do you
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ever use CBD? You ever use CBD or turmeric?
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I yeah. Turmeric. Yeah. Like, I do that stuff stuff. I do, like, the little shots, like
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Yeah. You used to do
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that all the time. Raw ginger. Yeah. Raw. Yeah. There’s a place in LA that I like, that I don’t have it in my eyes. Like, my I’m real tight with I don’t know if you know Rick Solomon. He owns this thing, Sun Life, and it’s fucking they have great shit there. So I do that.
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Oh, the Sun Life place in in, California? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I do. Yeah.
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Yes. Rick is fucking he’s been an inspiration to me and, like, you know, everybody knows my story and, you know, he I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs
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Right.
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Very easily and stay there. For me, I have a hard time with it. I still struggle, and, like, it’s not drugs. It’s to put it bluntly, it’s pussy and drugs together. Okay? It’s a hell of a combination and drug sex and all that shit, and, like, you know, you get caught up in that wave and, like, it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs, and it’s just a fucking it just turns into something real ugly.
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So
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It it all
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He walked away from me for a while. He was like, bro, you’re fucking up again. But I’m in a great place now, man. I got good people around me, and, I smoke and, you know, I make my music and I chill these days, man.
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Well, that’s great.
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I’ve graduated. I was
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trying to tell you about your hands. Like, if you if you’re getting inflammation and you’re taking hydrogen water, like, hydrogen water would be great. But if you really wanna cut it down, what we were talking about earlier is the way to cut it down. Stop eating things that give you inflammation.
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That’s the big one. That’ll change everything.
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Yeah. Cut out all the
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sugar in the bread, and you’ll be amazed at how well you feel.
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Bread. Like, I’m not really, like, a sugar guy. Like, some people eat sweets and shit. Like, me, I’ll go Lately, because I’m trying to lose, like, a lot of weight, I’ve been eating fruit, like, constantly eating.
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Fruit’s great.
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And I feel so much better because, like, I I drink water till I’m blue in the face. I’m not hydrated. I eat fruits and shit like that. It’s like I feel like it just sticks to your organs and like just Well, there’s a lot of watermelon.
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Watermelon’s fantastic.
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I love watermelon and apples.
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Do you take, any sort of, electrolytes?
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Do you I do. I do. I mean Regularly? I’m just Gatorade.
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I’m just trying to help you with
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Yeah. Gatorade, but, there’s this other stuff. I don’t even know what it’s called, but it’s like a powder. It’s, like, supposed to be less Like calming? And you just put it in your water and
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it’s like an accelerated hydration. Like liquid IV or something like that?
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Something. Yeah. I don’t even know.
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There’s a bunch of those that are really good. But yeah. That’s, you know, you you could you could take care of that. Like, obviously, your fingers are still working, but if you’re starting to feel, like, real discomfort, there’s some things you could do. CBD is a big one. CBD helps so much. My friend Dave Foley, he, had arthritis to the point where his hands were, like, totally crooked. Couldn’t straighten his hands out. Yeah.
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He started taking CBD and it all went away.
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That’s crazy. Yeah. The benefits of that.
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And it’s incredible. It really is incredible.
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Yeah.
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But the diet is a big one.
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I think I’m getting my fair share of, CBD and tea. From the queen. Well, not just that not from the flower, but I I like edibles, but not like distillate.
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I know what you’re saying.
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I’m into rosin edibles.
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The the difference is the CBD, you can isolate just the CBD. Yeah. They can make it much higher concentrates.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. Like, I love this shit. When I have muscle soreness, it’s a CBD. I’m no affiliation. Cbdmd has this product called freeze. It’s 3,000 milligrams CBD. Just black. It’s a roll on. It’s a roll on.
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So if you have, like, sore muscles yeah. They have all kinds of
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It’s fucking great. I love it. But they have great gummies and oils and CBD is anytime you can eliminate inflammation in your life, that’s good. Yeah. Whether it’s your personal life or your body, just eliminate all
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the information. Tell me this wave of, like, sea moss.
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Sea moss?
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Yeah. Like, people would like to there’s the benefits of Are you hearing about sea moss, Jeremy?
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I’ve heard of it.
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Yeah. Are
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you hearing about people eating it? No. I don’t know.
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Yeah. I don’t know. I haven’t tried it, but
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I’m a big believer in rib eyes.
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Yeah. Rib eye. Medium rare. I love that. Salt. Butterflied with a char.
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Yeah. I’m not really, into your sea moss.
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No. I’ve never tried this shit, but everybody’s like you should do sea moss.
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Most of that shit is starvation food.
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Really? Yeah. People eat it when
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they couldn’t find fish. If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish. Why would you eat that stupid moss? That’s I think that’s what most vegetables are. Most vegetables are starvation food.
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Yeah. I think, I fuck with salads. I actually enjoy salads, but I do them I’m gonna put dressing on it and shit and, like Yeah. Destroy it. Right. Some ranch. A little Caesar vibe. I just like oil
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and vinegar. Olive oil and vinegar is all I like on salads. But I like salads, so I eat salads.
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Yeah. Like,
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I’m not like religious about it, but I just I know that when I’m only eating like meat and steak and eggs, I feel way better. It just I’ve everything feels like it’s in tune, my brain works better, my body feels more relaxed. It’s it’s a tangible thing. When I eat a lot of bullshit, I feel it. It.
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See, I met these coming from, like, being a fucking in the middle of nowhere kid, like, not a rich kid, not part of, like, some social, like, type shit. I I came up to, like, a certain level of people that was, like, pretty insane, like, Russian multibillionaires and
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What is that like? Hanging around with those cats.
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That’s fucking bizarre, but I
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remember be weird because they’ll get you killed.
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Yeah. Right? It it could happen. Yeah. But, like, I’m hanging out with this one guy who’s probably one of the richest men in the world, and we’re eating borscht. He’s like, Scotty, you should eat soup every day. It’s good. I know what I’m telling you. I’m like, okay. I eat a lot of soup. Soup’s good.
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Soup is veg best basically vegetable juice.
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Saying like the hot broth and shit like that. It’s just super good for you to live longer. Bro, I
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used to live in Los Angeles. I used to go to Jerry’s Famous Deli and get Jerry’s. And get their chicken noodle soup. They had
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that That’s good. Lots of balls.
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Oh my god. They’re chicken noodles.
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No chives, though, I tell them.
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Do they put chives in it normally?
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Jerry’s does. Yeah. But I I like Not in a chives kinda? I like dill. Dill? Dill. Yeah. Like, I got, like, a Russian nanny and different things like that that works for me. And they put that fresh dill in. Oh my god. And that just changes everything. That’s like that’s like mama never made.
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A good if it’s like,
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you think about how cold Russia is, of course, they make a good soup. Yeah. Anywhere that’s cold is gonna make a good soup. Yeah. You don’t hear, like, soup from Texas.
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No. Right?
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You hear chili. You don’t hear soup. I don’t hear about their soup. Queso. Queso? That’s kinda soup.
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I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night at the Four Seasons, and That’s just not my kind of soup. It was good, but it’s just not, like, it’s not my favorite.
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It’s basically vegetable juice.
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Yeah.
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That’s where you’re you’re drinking hot vegetable juice,
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but it’s, like, good for you. Table cream, all of them.
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Right. Oh, that kind of stuff where they make the little the white swirls on the top like it’s a latte. Yeah. Fancy. Yeah. Very fancy, Scott.
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So so, yeah, music, we started, like, talking about how my music career evolved.
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Pop up to that mic.
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So earlier, we were talking about where did it start, and I went all the way back. So now I’m hanging with this guy, Richard, that might you know, the videographer I was saying that might that I met in my dad’s office. He took me and started making, an attempt to be professionalized myself as a musician, join the roots. We got a record deal, and I I loved it.
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You know, I was now, like, a very, like, lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I I was bringing something real major to the table within the group. And I just felt like after a while, I wasn’t appreciated, and that I was just gonna be remembered as the guy who played keys for the roots.
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Like and I didn’t want it more than that. I left the group for a multitude of reasons. Some I usually don’t talk about, but, like, I, you know, boohoo. I felt some reverse racism. I know that people have dealt with shit, like, fucked up shit and but I was just, like, kind of mortified once I’m on a stage, and I just remember I’m performing with the roots at, in New York, this event called the Black Lily and playing the keyboards backing everybody up and this and that, and somebody was rapping.
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So this is they point at me. The white devil. Something else just like, what the fuck is happening here? Like, I’m I’m Were
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they serious?
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I’m the most loving No. No. It was fucked up shit, bro. It really hurt me because I’m like, I don’t see color. I don’t see any of that shit. I’m the most, like, just coolest motherfucker in that aspect. Like, it’s a me racism bothers me. But it was like, you know, my my family now were not representing for me, and that that let that happen and then just combined with
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So someone on the stage said that?
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Yes. 1 of the rappers. I’m not gonna say names, but just Damn. It shit was just like, how is this happening right now? Goddamn. And, like, you know, I felt like all the credit and for all the, like, big melodies and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug, and, like, I said I gotta leave this group.
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And I’m dating this girl at the time who is, like, urging me not to she’s saying, you’re gonna be the Pete Best of the roots. You know who Pete Best is?
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Yeah. The Beatles.
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He left The Beatles. Yeah. Yeah. So she was like, you’re gonna be the Pete Best of the roots. I was like, that’s cool. She actually dumped me. Oh, that’s it. And, and I I I, continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bands. And I met this guy through the whole process of being in the roots.
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His name was Derek Jackson, and he and I he embraced me into you know, you’re so talented. Like, let’s give it a go. And we would take these trips from Philly to New York and just go to every a and r, every fucking, label, trying people that contacts that this guy Derek had in New York.
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He was from New York. You know, like, he would just use them. And then the 1st week we were doing that, we got a couple of bites. And one was my first client was Busta Rhymes Wow. Who’s I’ll never forget it. Busta, like, believed me. He’s like, alright. And I went to the studio.
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We made a record. One shot, one kill, baby. That’s how it is. Like, you get one shot. You know?
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It’s not like and we made Blahdow, which was, on his album Anarchy. And, we also got that same week, maybe 3 days later, Capone and Noriega and, CNN, the album. You know? Norie’s got his, like, his, like, you know, his whole world in podcast now, so he’s proud of that guy. Great guy. But, yeah, they believed in me.
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And the day I went in, I’ll never forget it. Capone, whose partner was coming home from jail that day. And the theme of the day was, I guess, he got him some girls and, like like, on the way to the studio to come work, and now he’s like, all day he kept saying, it’s nothing.
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It’s nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and Scotty and this and that. It was just amazing day. We made music. We made, like, 3, and then I was off to the races, man. I was just making music. Wow.
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And, a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there. And then still ain’t make no money, but I’m now, like, doing shit. Is that you? Yeah. Let me shut this off.
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Isn’t it funny that that fear of, like, the the Pete Best type thing? That’s such a real thing. In the beginning, you don’t have any idea what your future’s gonna be.
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Like did I, like and I would see shit on them. Yeah. Like, they’re appearing here, they’re doing this, and that’d be like a fog, but what did I do? Right. I hold in there. And then I’ve always a lot of people say this, but I’m like a fucking very harmonious person. I always do good for everybody.
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I never, like I I you could accuse me of being a lot of things, but being an asshole, I’m not. So when I was in, my first trip to LA, alright, I went to LA to perform, and I did this this, open mic at the Martini Lounge. It was my first time ever going to California, and it was like it was a Roots event.
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I wasn’t in the group anymore, but, like, whatever I had to do, I was gonna make a few $100 to go play background on this on this thing. It wasn’t The Roots. It was like an open mic with Pete random people coming in this. Okay. So I did this thing, and who do I see come up to me but a chick I knew from Philly? And she was like, storage. What up? What up?
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She’s like, you’re not gonna believe this, but I signed a record deal with doctor Dre in Aftermath. And I was like, wow. That’s crazy. So she she’s like, I’m a hook you up with Dre. You’re always fucking good to me in Philly, and you never tried to smash.
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You let me go in the studio, and we did cool stuff together. And, like, it was a platonic thing. Like, she was my homegirl. And, sure enough, I go and I meet up with Trey. I’m waiting for him to come out as come in the lobby, like, nervous as hell.
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I don’t have anything to play for him. I’d have my fingers. That’s about it. And, I go into a room, and he sits me down. He’s like, I heard you good at them keys. I start playing for him and this and that. He’s real quiet and just like, listening. I’m like, he ain’t here.
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Nothing’s coming from this. I’m I’m gonna go home sad today. He leaves the room. I’m still sitting in there. I’m like, I don’t know if I should be just leaving or I’m supposed to stay in here.
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And this dude, Larry Chapman, is, like, one of his, like, head dudes comes back and says,
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Dre wants you to stay
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here for a long time. He’s gonna get you a hotel and here’s some money. It was like, I was like, really? Okay.
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Dre wants you to stay here for a long time.
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Yeah. He was just like, let me know if Dre wants you here, man. Like, you can stay because
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I was
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I was gonna get on a plane back to Philly that night. And I remember I went back to the hotel. I got all my shit, and now I’m being switched to, like, a fancy hotel. And I’m, like, chilling, and I got some money. I went and rented a fucking 5 series BMW, and I was like, wow. I am in LA for the first time. I have money. I just met Dre.
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I’m about to make a fucking album with doctor Dre. The next day, I go I go to the studio. I meet up with Dre, and he’s telling me all kinds of cool shit, man. Like, he accepted me into his world. Like, it was, like, such a it was surreal, bro. It’s a movie scene. It was it’s surreal.
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Dre once
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used to for a long time. I got this I got this, just tell me I got this rapper that is really talented. I believe in him, blah blah blah blah, the white boy and this and that, and in walks Eminem. Wow. And, like, he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him. It was like one of Em’s first releases at just the 2 of us.
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You know what I’m talking about? And I played a little keys on that over to the next day. Me and Dre went in to work on his project, and we made big egos, which made it to that’s like that one shot, one killed thing. Like, that first day worked out. It led to me being along Dre’s, you know, side and in his his, camp for a very long time.
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But there’s just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that I call, like, a musical magician. You know, there’s there’s people that people call upon. You know, like, you gotta get Storch. I’m a producer producer. Right. But what what is that? Like, what separates you from other musicians that makes you this savant?
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Do you think about it, or would that take
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away the match? Barely tie my shoelaces. But Right. But you know how
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to bang out some
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beats. This shit. Right. I was telling you about that Russian oligarch. Okay? He looked at me one time and he says, Scotty, you are not playing this keyboard. You are fucking the piano. Like, I don’t know what you’re doing, but you’re it’s raw. Like, I’m not an educated guy, but, like, I have rhythm, like, on some different shit, like Bob James, like, your your boys, the the, black the the black keys.
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Like Love those guys. Look. Not to jump around too much, but working with them is the first time. Like, I feel like I did anything good. I can’t explain it.
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In one way I have all these hits, like the candy shop, do this, that, like, Beyonce, every single I feel like the first time I really got into it on some real touch the culture real shit, not what’s people like trap music and dumb shit like that.
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Yeah.
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This is, like, the real as it gets, and I got to use these vintage keyboards. I’m playing shit with a wah wah pedal on a keyboard and, like, going crazy. And, like, if you look at my Instagram sometime, you’ll see some of the shit that, like, I’m doing. Like, their studio
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I do. I watch it all the time.
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Their studio is insane, man. Like and those toys, like, I was really tapping in. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It was so much fun. But
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I just love those 2 guys. They’re just and they’re so fucking talented, man. We saw them out here at Stubbs.
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Yeah.
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Fuck. It was so fun, man.
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Yeah, man. And something about Nashville is a great place to make music, man.
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Yeah. Then well, think about how much great music has come out of there, and then the memory of that shit is burned into the city. I I believe in that. I believe that places have memory.
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Mhmm.
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You know? I really do.
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Yeah. You feel it.
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Yeah. I think there’s a there’s an element. I mean, it’s not everything about a place, but I think places have memory, you know. I I think that a place like Nashville I mean and also it’s small enough because it’s because it’s kind of a tight community. Everybody kinda knows everybody. Mhmm.
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There’s so many musicians there. Kid
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Rock’s there.
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Black Keys is there. Yeah. Kid Rock.
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He told me he was he he yeah.
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Yeah. I read into it at the UFC. This Kid Rock’s my favorite fucking thing of all time was going to his giant track of land in Nashville and seeing his fucking White House.
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I yeah. Like, with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy son of He’s out of his mind. He did well, man. Yeah. He was one of I know when I met him I met him. He used to come up to the studio when we were making the chronic album with Dre. And I I think it was like it was like visiting, I think, with, a lot with Eminem.
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I don’t know if he’s doing some other stuff, but he was he was there quite a bit. Cool guy, man.
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Yeah. He’s always at the UFC with Trump. It’s hilarious because Trump comes into American Badass. The crowd goes nuts when they know he’s there, and then kid rocks behind him. It’s like the republican avengers.
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Dude, I performed at Mar a Lago not long ago. No way. Yeah. I jammed out. I did a blacks for Trump, thing, and I it was cool, man.
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Jeff Dye was telling me he’s done stand up at Mar a Lago. How crazy is that? Yeah.
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It’s a fucking he’s a genius. I’m I really am a He he got a sick sick operation over there. Mar a Lago is insane, bro.
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I need to check it out.
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We thought about doing a
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we do this podcast called Protect Our Parks with Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, and Mark Normans. It’s crazy park. We get hammered and drink beer out of, like, this giant freedom bong. It’s like an eagle’s asshole you’re drinking the beer out of. And we we talked about doing one from Mar a Lago. We might do that still.
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That’s cool. I’m supposed to go there. I think I’m gonna go there for us, on 13th. They’re doing some kind of, event like a roaring twenties vibe dinner and then, like, a whole weekend of
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Of roaring twenties. Like like you wear the outfits?
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I’m not gonna, but, like, the
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theme was them outfits?
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That’d be badass.
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What did they wear? What’s, like, a roaring twenties outfit? Zoot suit. I would imagine that’s, like, double breasted. Yeah. Like, the Peaky Blinders, what those dudes were. Yeah. What did they wear in the twenties?
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The Shelbys.
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Zoot suits, man. What do they wear? Roaring twenties men.
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There you go.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, that looks slick.
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Those hats. Look at that.
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They all wore hats.
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Ain’t that crazy? Shit going on.
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Ain’t that crazy that, like, nice hats just went away? We were talking about that the other day. We were watching an old school fight with Jack Johnson, and every man on the street, like, waiting in line for the fight, all the people in the audience for the fight, all of them had fancy hats on.
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Men used to just wear fancy hats. Something happened. Fancy hats just fell apart. Like, if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920, be like, bro, we got it forever. Like, fancy hats ain’t going away.
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But fancy hats completely fucking want if you
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were in the fancy A friend of mine was wearing a hat. Like, you know, his hat is, like, 4 grand. I’m, like, it’s just, like, some fancy company that got
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I’m sure there’s companies, but it’s not like they everybody’s, like, baseball hats. Everybody buys baseball hats, you know? But fancy hats, they just went LA. If you would ask those fancy hat people, you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat? They’d be like, a fancy hat.
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He’s the fucking president. Nope. Make America great again.
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Yep. Baseball hat with a suit on. That’s crazy.
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You know what? Fancy hats just fell out of style.
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Yeah. I think,
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You can’t bring it back either.
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It’s become a much more casual world, I believe. And it’s like I mean, sometimes I always bitch, like, ah, people knew how to dress. When we used to go out, I would put on a sport coat and wear it, you know. But, like, at the end of the day, like, I get it. Shit. Yeah.
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That’s when It’s all bullshit. Yeah. It’s nice to dress up sometimes. Sometimes. It’s fun.
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It’s a pain in the ass sometimes. Yeah. It’s a pain in the ass. Lately, I’ve just been changing my whole fashion ways. Like, a friend of mine said something. He’s like, even though I have nice things, like, he’s like, you don’t need a Ferrari. Be the Ferrari. When you walk in a room, there’s a fucking you’re on South Beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a pot to piss in, I’m getting out of the Lambo and the fucking, valet and the iced out and shit.
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Like, I’m the king of that shit. I was filthy rich and did all that shit, and I might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club. Like, I was doing everything, but lately, I just it turns me off. I look at myself, and I look like a I feel like a poser. Like, I feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking a fucking, a bare bones, no diamonds type shit.
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Like Well,
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look at Elon Musk. Yeah. Dude wears occupy Mars t shirts. Doesn’t even have a watch. Yep. You know, it’s just So that’s the thing. Hanging.
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That’s where I’m at.
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You don’t I think what happens is in the beginning, you want everybody to know you’re doing well, so you have all your stuff on. You you dress real nice. You know, you’re like, wow. Scott looks good. He looks sharp. But then when you’re undeniable, you reach a point in your life where you you’re just like, what am I who am I doing this for?
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This is stupid. If you’re like me and you have a point in your life where you had a $100,000,000 and you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn’t have any respect for money. Like, my financial manager walked away from me back in the day. He said, you’re unmanageable.
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Why? Were
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you going crazy? Going out spending so much money.
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But, look, you’re still here. Yeah.
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I
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had fun. I had fun. A good time. Bitch, you had a good time.
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But when you lose everything Yeah. You wanna, like, fake it and be like, oh, no. I still got it. And, like, I’m the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds. Right. They don’t broke as shit because I just wanted to look the art. My ego wouldn’t let me let go of that shit.
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That’s a negative feedback loop because that doesn’t feed into art either. That’s the opposite.
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It doesn’t. I had to get rid of all of that. I had to, like, really take it back to nothing. Like, I don’t care about labels and shit. I like nice things. Look. Not I don’t like have to do the pull up on the club, but look. There’s nothing wrong with a fucking 911. Like, it’s just a great car. Like Yeah.
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There’s some amazing engineers.
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Anything. Yeah. Like, I do it for me now, like, whatever I do, and, I’m just, like, I’m really getting into my music. I’m getting into a lot of things. I appreciate both things. I appreciate people who dress real nice, and I appreciate people who don’t give a fuck.
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I think there’s a place for everyone.
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Happy medium.
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Yeah. And then the stuff stuff is not life. Life is not your stuff.
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No.
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But some stuff is fucking cool. Hell, yeah. Like, Katt Williams when he was here, he wasn’t even living here or staying here, and somehow or another he got a electric Rolls Royce. So he’s here. That way, he’s here for a day to do a show. And wasn’t he doing a show somewhere else or something, like an arena somewhere?
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But one of the things he said, he said, when you’re sitting in his car, you know where you spent your money.
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Yeah.
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Because it’s like, it’s you we go, oh, I know why this is $600,000. Look how fucking amazing this thing is.
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No. Yeah. Lights on the ceiling. Nice things. I just like them for a different reason. Right.
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You don’t like them for showing off. You like them because you like them because they’re awesome. Yeah.
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Like, there’s nothing wrong with luxury.
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Yes. There’s nothing wrong with luxury.
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You work hard,
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but The problem is you’re trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it. Like, look, it might come.
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Or prioritizing it before your children or before things like that. Before anything. Before anything. Before food.
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Yeah. It shouldn’t come before anything. It should be just a fun thing. And when you get to a level of success that you’re at, if you don’t figure that out, that’s when it’s the saddest. When someone makes a ton of money and doesn’t go, oh, it’s not about the things, it’s about the relationships that I have. It’s about my friends.
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It’s about my loved ones, my family. It’s about the people that I work with. It’s about everybody having a good time. It’s about let’s all get together and break bread and eat and and hug each other and tell each other we’d love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience.
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That’s the thing.
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That’s the thing.
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The car is just like, look. That’s cool,
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dude. Icing.
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Yeah. If you pull up in a cool car, I’m like, check it out.
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36:46
That is all some people have to offer in their, like, life and, like, they think that that is great.
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Well, you know, the the problem is that’s seemingly the most unattainable thing. When you’re broke and you see some guy who pulls up in a a brand new 911, you’re like, what the fuck? This is yours? It’s it’s mind blowing.
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Yeah. I had Bugattis and all kinds of shit. I mean, everything. I had everything. I won for the best car collection on fucking, MTV Cribs. I I had, like, 26 cars, bro. If you name I had, like, $10,000,000 cars. Wow. Like, crazy shit. Like, I’m an idiot.
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But at any rate
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Yeah. But those are fun too if you can afford it.
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37:24
No. Yeah. But I lived a billionaire’s life as a millionaire. I had a 100,000,000,000. I thought it said a 100,000,000,000 in my account. I thought there was an extra 0. But recently, I met a guy. He just met Kevin. Kevin is a fucking, like he’s just a great person. I I had met him years years ago. He was the head of security for 50¢. And when he he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop.
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Okay? And that’s where I met him, but I lost touch with him for so many years and just, you know, not so long ago, just remet him at the studio. This guy BB at Circle House said, yo. I got you got this guy wants to you’ve met him before, but he wants to meet you. He’s now the owner of, the Platinum Security Group, which is, like, one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation. Like, this guy owns so much real estate.
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He owns half of Boca Raton. He’s, like, a major freaking guy, and he’s, like we started he wanted to, you know, initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label, and we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were, you know, different projects and shit that we’re doing.
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And he is like, yo. First of all, you need to get the fuck out of Miami, and I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music and stop worrying about because Miami, like, starts slipping into my old ways and girls are every day. It show up, and then it’s a cesspool, bro, and it’s so much fun, and it’s so fucked up.
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And there’s so much as, and there’s so much drugs, and there’s so much everything, and it’s like, fuck that.
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You should have to have a passport to go to Miami. Right? That is not America. That’s a new thing. That’s a new thing. Miami’s wild.
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It’s good to go there if you need to fucking be there, but, like The energy in that place is amazing. Down the road is beautiful waterfront living and normalcy and just far enough to where the
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You can get there.
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Garbage is not gonna, like Right. Hit you every day.
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You can get there if you want. Yeah. But, yeah, you’re outside of it. That’s what I think.
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He’s like he’s like from the outside. Move up here. And since I did that That’s why I was lead, so many great things are happening. Yeah. Even just, like, unlocking you know how you block your blessings? Mhmm. Like, I was blocking my blessings, and now they’re starting to come.
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I’m here with you talking and telling my story and, like like, things like that are happening, great things. I have, an artist that, you know, I’m working on. I have my album. I decided to, like you know how Khaled makes the album. He’s got all these different people and Mhmm. Like, I’m like, you know what?
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I’m gonna, like, I’ve made my whole life of this making hit records for labels and for their artists. Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects? And, yeah. I’m putting out a a slew of singles. This girl, Abby Stair, that Kevin introduced me to is, like, so amazing.
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I think there might be a picture somewhere of that, I was told, like, because I’m I’m using her for my single for my first single. Like, even though, you know, we’re gonna be developing her album and, but I’m doing my single featuring her and then a whole bunch of other ones that I’m gonna be putting out.
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I have one with Young Blue and, tons I have tons of singles, but we only have this song, and, yeah. I’m excited, man. Like, I’m doing the things I always wanted to do. I’m I’m taking, like, full on, initiative now.
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And you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that?
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I think, yeah, in order to, like, just Balance. Yeah. Balance myself.
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Need balance, man. You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax, and focus. You need privacy, you need solitude so you could think. Everybody needs that. You need balance in your life. If you don’t, you just go you lean in one direction you want it’s like it’s like your body.
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You only work out your biceps, your fucking your hips are gonna go. Some something’s gonna go wrong. You’re gonna fuck your body up with imbalance. You’re gonna fuck your life up with imbalance. Everything needs some sort of a balance and everybody’s balance is different. Mhmm.
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You know, for a guy like you who goes hard, you probably should get the fuck out of Miami. He’s probably should be living in Boca Right. With all the quiet people.
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Yep. And I’m loving it. If I need to go to Miami, I’m
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1 hour.
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Go to Miami. 1 hour. Fuck it.
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41:54
How hard is that? I love Florida. This is a fucking crazy ass place. It is. Crazy ass place filled with reptiles.
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Yeah. Right? And they literally were walking around on your dock, you
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know. There’s
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so many. I think iguanas like
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Giant iguanas falling out of trees when it gets cold out.
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Yeah. It’s funny as shit. It’s just such a fucked up place, but
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it’s so fun. There’s so many good things. And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida.
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Mhmm.
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Like, so many people moved down there. They’re like, hey. You can just just live here. You don’t have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government.
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Look. The northeast was a great place to as a as a young guy to build strength and the changing of the seasons and scraping the ice off your fucking windshield and just learning about being a man wearing Timberland boots because you’re fucking freezing cold. Right. And I think I think every young person should have to, like, experience that. 100%. Not just, like, sunshine.
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Bro,
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I grew up in Boston Yeah. And, you know, it’s cold as fuck in the winter. When when I was a kid, we made money by shoveling snow. And that, you know, that’s back breaking fucking work, shoveling long steep driveways and shit for a $100.
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Yeah. You
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know, but if if you could do that and do that all the time, like, you build resolve. You’re out there freezing. Your hands are numb. You know, we play outside in the snow. Your fucking hands are going now. You come in. You can’t feel your feet.
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Makes you stronger. It
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makes you stronger. Scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work.
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Yep. Salting this fucking, the walk.
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I feel bad for people that don’t grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge.
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And those changing of seasons Yeah. Amazing. Different feelings, different moods.
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All my favorite comedians for the most well, that’s not true. I was gonna say that but then Kinison. He was from Texas. Sam.
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Yeah. But that was different.
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That dude was that’s a different thing.
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I always think about back to school. I think about Sam Penson. I don’t know why my mind just goes right there.
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Was he right?
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Was he right? I was there. That dude is awesome. Yeah.
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He was awesome.
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I have an appreciation for film. I have appreciation for comedians. Like, I like I really like I grew up, like, too. I was buying, like, Richard Pryor albums as a kid and Eddie Murphy albums and, you know, I spent a lot of times. I became good friends with Mike Epps. I came a lot of comedians. Comedians are tortured souls, you guys. Like, I think a lot of, like, that whole comedy tragedy thing is, like, very serious.
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Well, there’s something to that.
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For many.
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Yeah. There’s something to that, but it’s you just gotta figure out how to balance it like we’re talking about before. For me, I balance it out with exercise. Exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that. That’s how I balance it out. That’s how I keep my mind straight. Yeah.
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But if I didn’t, I would be spiraling just like all of them. I think you you you need something in your life that’s more difficult than your life. Something that you do that you choose to do that’s more difficult than regular life because then it makes regular life way more manageable.
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Mhmm. Well, it’s kinda cool. I’m 50, and I’m, like, inspired like when I was in my early twenties and just, like, doing the music. And it’s like, sometimes I get reminded of, like, in fact, you know, like, when you try to, like, keep up, like, there’s a session, like, you’re gonna have to go meet little baby at 3 in the morning.
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It’s like
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And you piss
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me? Okay. Fuck it. I just do it. I just have to compensate for it. I coulda just went for days back in the day Right. Without drugs. You know what I’m saying? Right. Right. And I feel like then now I was like, alright. I’m gonna sleep real late because I’m gonna have to go at 3 o’clock in the morning.
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So is that, like, a standard thing? Like, what like, when rappers come and they wanna work with you, do they generally wanna work late at night? Rappers? Yeah.
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Yes.
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They all wanna work late
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at night. And my biggest problem is I know I can’t always tell them that. Like, sometimes you should just send them CDs and shit, but I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you feel in their energy, that’s when the best records happen.
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Yes. These dudes, like, a lot of dudes are not, like, with it, but there’s some are.
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That’s the extra magic. Right?
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Yeah. I think the best artists want that. The ones that aren’t really artists, they just want some bullshit to rap on, some more bullshit.
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But it’s there’s something you’re exchanging something as human beings.
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Mhmm.
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Right? You’re you’re with that person. You’re experiencing them. They’re experiencing you, the music, the song, everything together, the lyrics. There’s that’s a human experience. Mhmm. That’s why, like, I refuse to do Zoom podcasts. Like, some people in other countries, they wanted to be on a screen and just sit in the living room.
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You gotta be in the room.
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I’ll give you a perfect example. I got a call a week ago, FaceTime, and it was J Cole. I was seen on my phone. And, like, I was chilling. Like, I was like, oh, shit. It’s J Cole. And, my neighbor’s thinking something dope. He says he says he says, yo, Storch. I figured out a way that I can harness that Storch thing. You’re in Florida. I’m flying there. So I’m gonna I’m going home from this tomorrow.
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He’s gonna be there the next day. We’re gonna be working at at a head factory, but he gets it. Like
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We were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night. Oh, yeah. We’re all going, motherfucker,
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I am. I’m excited. I’m excited when somebody wants to get in the room, and they have Yeah. Idea of, like, what they feel, like, out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks. Like, they wanna, like, harness or encompass that.
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Well, you’re also a guy that, like, you find out you’re working with Scott Storch that day, everybody gets fired up. So there’s, like, a feat because you had so much success that this is, like, excitement about you, and you’re in the room and that creates, like, additional, like, inspiration.
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Yep. I give my all all clients because if somebody’s gonna be in a room when I’m not there and they’re like, this is the one Scott Storch did, that shit had better. If I like the artist or I don’t like, whatever the hell it is, they have to be like, yo. That beat is fucking flames.
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Like so I give my all the shit. And for some reason, man, like I said, like, I just this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again. I do it good. I give results. Nothing always sounds the same if somehow I managed to pull it off, and it’s like I just remember doctor Dre telling me, yo, because his work ethic is crazy.
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He says, you don’t have to be on every day, just most days. And it stuck with me, and I was like, yeah, man. Like, you know, you gotta be known for being the guy that hit home runs almost every time. Not every time, but almost every time.
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But when you’re dealing with something that involves creativity, you you can’t be every day.
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Mhmm.
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It’s not possible. Mhmm. You’re asking too much of the muse. Yeah. You know, but that’s also the problem with, like, being a workaholic. You’re going hard all the time. You’re you’re constantly working, and you’re gonna have your hits as and you’re gonna have your misses, and that’s just a part of the process.
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I go hard with everything that I do, whether it be a bad thing or a good thing.
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Yeah. Like, I Most people do.
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I got, like, you know, the same energy I give to that to the music and shit. I was given to, like, the wrong things for a while.
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A good friend of mine, we were talking about a buddy of ours that died. He died from, pills, and, he was super clean. He was a professional pool player, like, a really, like, world class pool player. Super clean, never did anything, never drank, never smoked, got in a car accident, fucked his back up, started getting on pills.
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And pain pills to him, he chased pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool. The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool that the same obsession
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Tore him down.
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That same obsession got wrapped up in the pills and he died. He died young. And we were talking about him, like, that is what it is. That’s that’s where obsession and addiction cross paths. 1 can serve you, 1 can ruin you.
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Mhmm.
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And they’re they’re the same energy. It’s just how you channel the fire. You could channel the fire to wood and cook your food or you can channel it to your house and now you’re fucked. Like, where do you put the fire? How do you how do you direct it? And if you direct it the right way, you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life, or you could do it the wrong way and just be on skid row
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Yeah.
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Covered in scabs.
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It’s hard to balance sometimes things that are take over your soul, like pills and shit like that. Later, I wanna talk to you about I I got into, like, the biz the business of rehab, not for money. I got into the business that we have to help people, but but that’s later. Honestly, like, I got my whole life was just all music, music, music.
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I loved music. I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I love, like music. I love music of the seventies, and I love Marvin Gaye. I like all this fucking I love Marvin Gaye. Incredible music, Earth, Wind, and Fires, and this, that.
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Like, I just that’s where it all comes from. So I base my music on the past 50 years of music, 100 years of music. And, I was doing good. I smoked pounds of weed, made my music, lived a very healthy life, and became very rich. And I was in a bubble for so long that one day, I’m living in a house that, Ivanka Trump recently just bought.
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It was my house on Indian Creek Island, okay, which I owned outright. I bought the fucking house for cash from the widow of the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits. And I bought this house. It’s fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing. I was living a healthy life, and I wasn’t in my mind, like, cool, but I was, like, happy. I was cool.
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That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do. But I felt like I was yearning for some something bad or I don’t know what I was yearning for, but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep, a very famous girl. And, look, I’m just I’m not playing the gateway blame game or anything, but it’s just a course of events happen.
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Paris Hilton shows up at my door initially to work on music, and we ended up connecting. And I learned this whole new way of life, like, with paparazzis and being, like, next to her and then, excuse me, inevitably hook it up with her, and we’re now an item and shit, and we’re, you know, kinda like we’re having tons of fun.
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We’re good friends, but I think we’re both using each other in a certain way, like, where I’m, like, like, so excited to be next to this girl who’s, like, the coolest, most famous girl in the world. She’s, like, my girl, and, like, she’s next to a few her passions at that time, music, and she was, like, next to me who I’m the number one music producer in the world at the time.
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And, it went on, and then inevitably, the nightlife led to fucking cocaine. And No. No. No. No. No. She don’t lie. She don’t lie. Don’t know. No.
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1st year year and a half going here on planes and Saint Tropez and Saint Bards and the flyest shit you could do and flyest the best fucking coke and all all that shit just having a blast, and then it just goes bad. And then it’s just like that you have relations. You’ve seen the movie Blow and Oh, yeah. You’ve seen how hot, Penelope Cruz Oh, yeah.
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And Dewar, like, in the beginning, they’re like, like, into each other. It just comes Of course. All, like, there’s no happy ending.
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Your foundation gets rotted out under you.
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Yeah. And, like, my a list life was, like you know, I was born there and, like, I was now, like, in that situation, and then it ends up with Kim Kardashian and all these different things. And, like, she wasn’t even famous at that point, but, like, you know, she’s cool, man.
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She’s always been a great person and, like, close to
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I gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform.
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Yeah. That’s a it just shows, like, she’s that that sits from the heart too. She’s
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Advocacy for people that are wrongfully accused. Yeah, man. She’s done a lot of good things. She’s that lady has gotten a lot of people out of jail.
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Yeah. I I look. As long as I’ve known Kim, she’s never been anything but just a super sweet person. And That’s awesome. I met her before the fame. Like, I we dated before the fame, and, you know, I just I was a hot mess. Like, I was the fucked up one when we were together. Like, I just was not focused. I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that.
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It was just I I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. I had a session. Now I’m I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because everything I was doing, I was trying to impress Paris and, like, I knew that everybody wanna be on Star Island and Palm Island and, like, close to the party.
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South Beach
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was Right.
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It was South Beach. South Right. I didn’t know that where I was living already was the big daddy. Like, those houses, you have to be a you know, everybody’s there. Like, Bezos, everybody’s there now. Like, where I was, I’m I moved to this house on Palm Island. I go from a 90 foot yacht to a much bigger.
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I take these leaps just trying to impress her and just blow her mind even though she didn’t need that. But, I’m doing it. Yeah. It was all some weird mental, like, thing, like, I felt like A lot
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of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money.
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I didn’t wanna be famous. I wanted to be the most famous. I wanted to be the biggest boss, not just a boss. I had to be that guy. Boy. And when I lost everything, it was like, it’s bad news. And, look, I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session.
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Pre or post nipple at the Super Bowl?
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I don’t even remember. I don’t remember the nipples, but I remember this sweet, cool lady. When I met Janet, I was told to not even, like, really, like, talk to her, like, more like like, talk to, like, somebody and, like, you know, it was like it was like a for rough like, it was like pass your message and tell this person that they’re gonna, like, relay it.
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Like, even in the same room, like, to the point where within a few hours
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When you’re collaborating with music?
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Just for the first few, like, minutes this happened, and then, like, dude, we became, like, homies. Like, we was, like, immediate like, I was like, fuck that.
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Well, sometimes it’s the handlers that
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fuck things. The handlers.
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I’ve seen people that they they give themselves extra importance Yeah. By, like, saying, if you wanna talk to her, you have to talk to me.
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Yeah. Like yeah.
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You know, that’s kinda
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creating a draw for themselves.
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And creating, like, a little bit of insecurity on your part too. Like, don’t address miss Jackson Crip. Right. Address me.
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Yeah.
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I’ll address missus Jackson.
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That that is exactly right.
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She might not even know about her. By
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the end of the day, I was, like, you know, I was smoking my I was smoking my weed. She was, like, I was telling her about the different kinds I had in these these New York plastic jars and this and that, like, just cool as hell. But flash forward to now she’s coming to to Palm Islands to work.
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I left her at my house for, like, 7 or 8 hours because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers. It was just like, are you fucking serious? Like, you’re really gonna do that? Like, you don’t see it at the time because it’s out of your fucking mind.
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You’re out of your fucking mind.
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Out of my mind. Yeah. Out of my tits.
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It’s just
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so much regret for things like that.
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When you have so much money and you have power and fame, it’s like you have too much possibility. Yeah. There’s too many things that can entice you. And if you’re doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time, it’s just like more titties in my face, please. Like, let’s keep doing it. Let’s keep partying.
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Let’s stay up.
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It’s selfish. It’s and it’s and you’re not thinking about it because you’re you’re what are you saying, Goodfellas? Ah, your brain’s going to mush.
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It’s in balance.
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It’s true.
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It’s in balance. Yeah. It’s like what we’re talking about. So You need a balance.
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The a list parties turn to b list parties. The b list turns to c list. The c list turns to fucking street urchins. You know what I mean? I I’ve had some fucking funny moments, though. Like, I remember having a party. It was like a Super Bowl party. I had, like, 7 or 800 people at my house, and now, like, everybody’s, like, fizzling out. It’s now, like, 9 in the morning, 10 in the morning.
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I think Snoop was there. Mike Epps was there. Different people were hanging out, lingering, chilling, like family people. Now now it’s like friends and shit, and, like, there’s a knock on my door at, like, 10 AM. And it’s Pamela Anderson, and that shit was the funniest shit.
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In my house living with me at that time was one of my favorite people, and I knew he was upstairs, like, sleeping or whatever, my good friend DMX, god rest his soul, and Pamela was showing up. And I was like, yo x. Yo x. Check this out. I was all geeked out.
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I’m like, so I think it is so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning, and he comes over the the, the railing of my house, and he’s like, looks over. He’s like, Baywatch, and then he just walked back away. He walked back in the fucking thing. Okay? X was, like, x was living with me, man, and, like, it was like the blind leading the blind. I’m a coke addict, and he is a crack addict.
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And I’m, like, trying to help him. I’m like, man, you really need to get clean, man. Like like, what the fuck is real? Yeah. So I’m like, yo.
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You need to go to rehab. I’m like, so I I get him. I convince him, like, to avoid, like, a a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever. He went to rehab and, like, he’s getting this shit together. The place that I had gone that didn’t really work for me, but I had him there. I really did care about him.
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I wanted him off that shit, like, whatever. That was, like, a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on. And, he ran out of the place. I got a call from him, but the place was directly across the street from the Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida. And he’s like calls me. He’s like, yo.
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What’s up? I’m like, how are you calling me? You don’t have phone privileges like that in his face. He’s like, I’m across the street from the rehab at the Hard Rock with 1 of the nurses. And, like, I’m like, oh my god. Are you fucking kidding me?
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I was like, yo, x. Cover yourself up. Come back to my house. I’m gonna talk to these people who let you back in. And they wouldn’t let him back in.
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It was like real tough motherfucker to own this place, and he ended up because it was court ordered, he had to go away. I’m at the Montreal one morning a couple of days later, and my security is like, yo, Doug. There’s 50 federal agents here. Like, crazy shit, bro. It was like, I couldn’t believe it. I felt horrible.
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And then you flash forward to not so long ago, I was heavily involved in a rehab center in, California in Studio City where we use cannabis for healing, and it came to my attention that he was on his last legs. X was in bad shape, so I was able to make a meeting happen. My partner, Steve LaBelle, I don’t know if you know who Steve LaBelle is, managed Bone Thugs and Harmony and all these people, like, real legend.
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We were partners on this place, and we had x come in. He had emphysema. He was one rock away from death. Like, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah.
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So we convinced him. We put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox. He went. He went through the whole detox, and his plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab. He never made it back on the plane to head back, and we never saw him again. Oh.
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And, like, that was me trying to save a man’s life that I really loved, man. He was, like, such a special guy, but, like Such a special performer. Yeah.
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Man, there’s there’s one
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of the greatest ever do it.
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Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. The power that that guy had in his voice. It was amazing, but wild people make wild shit. And sometimes I’m one of them. Sometimes Yeah. You can’t control it.
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Can’t calculate or?
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Yeah. I mean, going back to Kennison, I mean, that just did him and when I mean, he died in a car accident, but I mean, his he was falling apart because it was all cocaine. Cocaine and drinking. And, the wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because it’s you you escape yourself.
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It’s an escape. I was just about to say. Yeah. It’s an escape.
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The difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is But, no.
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Bro, like, the calm down, like, after, like because after a while, like, that, like, getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn’t work. It’s like it’s like now you wanna go for 2 days or 3 days. The way you feel at the end of that run Oh. Is no good, bro.
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It’s like not good.
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It’s just no good.
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Well, you’re closing in on death. Yeah. That’s the reality.
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You do 2 days down.
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You people don’t like to think that, but if you’re up for 2 days, you’re about 4 days away from death. Yeah. It’s You keep that up for 4 days, you’re gonna die. You’ll stroke out. You’ll have a heart attack. Something will go wrong. You’ll pop. Something will go off. Yeah.
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I mean, you’re you’re you’ll get emphyse or you’ll get pneumonia. You’ll get something horrible because your your immune system’s destroyed. Yeah. But it’s like wild people make wild shit. And, do you get a DMX without drugs?
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I don’t
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It’s like you call it sex drugs or rock and roll, rockstar shit, whatever you wanna call it.
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No. If you get those people I don’t know if you get Hendrix without acid. I don’t know if you get it. I don’t know if you get it. I don’t know if you get it without heroin. I don’t know.
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Maybe I’m so lucky because now I finally realized and I’m, like, understand, just die. And, like, I get it now, and I’m like, I’m not doing that. And, like, I lived it, though, and I got to experience, but the music is still fertile, and, like, I’m still doing my thing because a lot of those memories
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and Oh, bro. You made it through. Yeah. I made it through. You made it through. You’re alive. You’re healthy. You’re lucky. You’re blessed.
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Fucking lucky as hell.
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Lucky as shit. And it’s just, like, that’s the dance, man. The dance is how much wild do you let in your life? And if you don’t let any in,
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You might be sterile. You might be boring as fuck.
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Your your art might stop.
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I made it out alive.
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All my favorite artists are a little off the rails and always have been. From my favorite writers to my favorite musicians. I mean, so many of my favorite musicians died young.
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Mhmm.
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Kendrick is probably one of my all time favorites, but like that’s a great example. You know, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, all these people died young, man. Kurt Cobain died young because they went too fucking hard, too wild, too wild out of the gate. Amy Winehouse, too wild.
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Dealing with stuff that, like, it’s not like you could just be an organized drug addict. Like, some people just have less of an addictive personality, but, like, if you the the shit just takes over.
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Yeah. It takes over. And, again, if you live in that there you go. If you if you live in that wild life, it’s like there’s no one telling you to stop. There’s no one telling you to slow down. You have all the money in the world. Like, what? What? Who the fuck are you? Why are you telling me to slow down?
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Yeah. We Fuck out of here.
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I just did the star spangled banner with my teeth. Get the fuck off
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the stage. Right. You ever
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see him do that? Ever see Hendrix do the star spangled
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banner with
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his teeth?
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Yeah. Crazy.
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That motherfucker.
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Yeah. I’m I’m told I’m one of the only guys who could play, like, music and smoke weed at the same time.
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I don’t know how they play music and sing at the same time.
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I I’m I’m I’m I met this guy, Post Malone, part of his business team, like him and Dre London, this guy Austin Rosen. Austin Rosen’s a fucking awesome dude. Like, he owns a Electric Field Entertainment post all these guys, Lou Bell. They’re all part of, like, some of the most talented and, like, just one of the coolest things going on in music for these guys.
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So I wanted to make a life story, like, biopic. I was gonna do something. I had one idea I was gonna do, and then he was like, Austin says, dude, I want you to go meet this guy. His name is Charles Rowan. He owns Atlas Entertainment. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Atlas, but they made, like one of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies.
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He did, like, suicide squad, that whole series, the dark night, Oppenheimer, like, some of the craziest movies as the list just goes on. I’m like, oh, shit. This guy makes blockbuster scenes. He’s gonna make my movie. I was like, hey. Listen. Just go meet him. See what happens.
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I meet the guy, and I go in his office. I’m, like, so nervous. He he says to me, I don’t like you very much, especially from what I read. But if I like you by the end of this meeting, I think we’ll make a movie.
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What does that mean? I don’t like you very much, especially from what I read.
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Because, like, you know, you know, there’s some fucked up shit, like, you know, like
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No tabloid type shit?
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But a lot of it’s bullshit. Like Of
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course it is.
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Made me look a certain way. But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye, and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happen. There was one interview I missed because I wasn’t even told about it. And, apparently, it was rescheduled 3 times, and then I was told about it, and I unfortunately had to reschedule it. Guy wrote the most horrible story about me.
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It was a cover of a magazine, and it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler. And, you know, it couldn’t be any further from the truth. Like, I yeah. I made big mistakes, but I did it. I was the nicest person giving per I would give the shirt off my back.
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Any person that ever stopped me in the streets to, like, get a picture, like, I’m gonna ask them how their day was. Like, you know what I’m saying? Like, I’m that guy. Yeah. I’m very, very thorough and very consistent.
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Well, that doesn’t sell. Yeah. What sells is you’re the worst piece of shit of all time. Oh my god. Let me read about this piece of shit. So That’s that’s a horrible thing that journals do for money. Yeah. They make these pieces where they completely distort a person’s essence, and they only do it for money.
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Yeah.
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They’re they’re just like emotional hit people.
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Let’s not talk about everything I’ve left my footprint in the fucking world. But anyway
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Yeah. Right. Let’s just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective.
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Selfless.
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Life is nuanced and bound and it’s weird. Life is fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes people make mistakes, but it’s not their whole being.
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Yeah.
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And to try to, like, condense a person down to, like, tabloid headlines, like, that’s the essence of the person. That’s crazy. That’s, like, the least compassionate, the the the least kind way of looking at human beings. Mhmm. It’s that’s not how human beings are. We’re complicated.
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That’s why those little hit pieces, they’re gross and they don’t really work.
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Mhmm.
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Because people know that. They know that a per there’s probably a lot more to this. Like, why is this per why is this so negative? Like, this is not a balance Yeah.
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This is one side who that person is. I’m a complex character if I was in a movie. But Of course, you are.
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You’re an artist. Yeah. Every artist is complex.
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I’ve never met one that isn’t. Well, a very, very raw and real, look at my life is happening now with Atlas Entertainment. We’re making a movie, major movie.
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01:09:54
Who’s gonna play you?
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It’s gotta be several mes because my span of my career starts ultimately. I’m a kid. Yeah. I’m already a kid.
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Maybe they do CGI, turn you into a kid. You could play yourself.
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Nah. They could do well. I didn’t wanna be involved in production, writing, or acting or anything. I needed to be respected and real, raw. Like, it’s not gonna make me look like the greatest guy. It’s not gonna make me look like a bad guy. It’s just gonna make me look like who I was. You know what I mean?
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Do you have any say in, like, because No. One of the things that drives me nuts is when there’s a movie and there no one was there. And you see, like, this historical figure say some things, and you’re like, well, how do I he didn’t really say that. Some fucking writer wrote that shit.
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This is not a real conversation.
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I spent a lot of time with somebody. This guy, Dan, is freaking amazing talented guy, and, yeah, everything is gonna be cool. If I have my way, I have an 18 year old son who’s literally me, who I make all of my music with. This kid Jalen, he’s my son, and he’s, like, one of my best friends.
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What’s like when Ice Cube’s son played him?
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And this kid looks just like me. And at the time I was his age, acts just like me Perfect. To a point where it’s not even normal. So I can’t think of anybody better, but we’ll we’ll get to that. I’m not saying he’s going to, but I would I would love for that to be, and I think anybody could see that this kid’s capable. Yeah.
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And and he is me. He’s like, you feel me. Like, my mouth, every like, different fucking things. Like
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Yeah. But but it’s it’s weird when someone’s alive and someone’s playing that person who’s alive. And you know, like, oh, that’s not really Scott Storch. You know what I mean? It’s weird. It’s like a movie about you and you’re you remember when, Michael Jai White played Mike Tyson? Mhmm.
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You know, and Mike Tyson was I mean, they were friends. They were cool with each other, but, like, that had to be weird. You’re playing a dude who’s still alive.
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Mike Tyson’s a special guy.
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He’s a very special guy.
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He’s a very good friend of mine.
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I’m glad he got to that fight and didn’t get hurt. Yeah. That’s what I was I was hoping he would knock Jake Paul out just because that’s the Cinderella story. Not I don’t have anything against
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Jake Paul.
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I like Jake Paul. I think what he’s doing is genius. I think what he’s doing is, like I mean, he’s got he’s making insane amounts of money. He’s having a great fucking time. Mhmm. He’s a legit boxer. He’s absolutely a legit boxer. You can’t
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hate on somebody that works that hard.
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You cannot.
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I would never hate on it.
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You’re an idiot.
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No. I was I was like, you know what? This guy is fucking really driven. Hey, man. It’s brother. They’re, like, driven. Like, it’s not at all. Everybody starts somewhere.
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Yeah. You know
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what I’m saying? Like So
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they were YouTubers, bro. They weren’t on Disney channel. Who cares? Do with it? But but the reality is Mike is 58 years old, and I was worried. Yeah. You know? I just I love that guy, and he was a hero of mine
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when I
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was a kid. So to see him, you know, 58 years old fighting, part of me was like, fuck.
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And him fought a lot of the same demons, and we were there for each other, like, in a lot of ways. Like, I’ve I talked to him, like, pretty deep conversations with Mike, and he he actually checks on me and, like, yo, you good? Like and I do the same. That’s great. And my friend, Rick, like, we’re all, like, kind of
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That’s beautiful.
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Yeah. Like
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That’s beautiful.
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He’s a beautiful person.
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He really is, man.
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For a
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guy who was the most terrifying fighter of all time, he’s a really nice guy to be around.
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I felt like I was in the fucking movie Hangover one time, like, because I was hanging out with him in Vegas. I remember we’re cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulhaney at the time, and he’s like, yo, I wanna let’s go jam out. We went to the Palms from my hotel to the Palms, and we rented the studio there just so I could play piano.
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We’re jamming out playing, like, old records and shit.
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Oh, that’s
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awesome. Cruising around Vegas. I was like, damn. It’s like fucking hangover.
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That’s awesome. It’s great, dude, man. Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in.
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Yeah.
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It’s like living in Miami to me. You live in Vegas? You should probably live in Henderson.
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Yeah. Right? Live live out there. Celine Dion.
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Yeah. Exactly. Live close to the mountains out there. Like, don’t be right in the middle of all that.
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Yeah.
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Attack it from the outside. That’s what I did in LA. When I lived in LA, I lived like an hour outside LA. I never lived I did when I first moved there, and then
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I slowly started moving further and further away till I got about an hour outside. I am not comfortable in LA anymore. I used to be. It’s crazy. I sleep with one eye open. Yeah. I sold my house. I got rid of that fucking place in the valley of just home invasions everywhere.
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Yeah. It’s crazy. The it’s like what they’ve done to that city in a short mere amount of time is shocking. I never thought it would go that bad that fast, and it’s the way it is now. It’s bizarre.
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It’s Yeah. The the the,
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I always say that it’s like a girl that used to date. She was really cute, but now she does meth and she works for the cartel. Like, what happened here?
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The pandemic happened.
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You just remember her
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from when she was so
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sweet and cool. Yeah. Well, the pandemic was the the reason why the government was able to fuck up that city. It’s the pandemic was just that was their way to fuck up the city.
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Dude, there were stacks of bricks. Yeah. On the street. Yeah.
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Stacks of
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bricks. Came from and like
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Stacks of bricks that somebody left there hoping someone would throw through windows.
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Starting riots and stuff. That’s some weirdo shit, bro.
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It’s correct. It’s like
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Spooky and scary.
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It’s spooky. I don’t like to go full Batman on this, but it’s like they’re like there’s evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of the world, and that’s real. Those fucking protests are organized, man. People spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out.
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The whole thing was designed to disrupt society, and then the defund the police bullshit, how anybody bought into that is so crazy. Reform the police, yeah. Train the police better, yeah. But defund them, are you Yeah.
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Let’s just all not be safe because of the legal. Are
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you out of your fucking mind? Do you not know the law of the jungle? Do you not know the real streets?
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Let me know when your Klaus gets robbed. You wanted to fucking shit the you know, you’re not gonna get a cop. Like, it’s not coming now.
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I have had so many friends that completely flipped to 180 after they got robbed.
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Right? Right?
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180. They’re Trump supporters now. It’s crazy. People that were like full on liberals and then they, you know, get a gun pointed in their face and all of a sudden they’re like, oh, this is what we signed up for? This is you’re just letting these people out? Like, you arrest these people and let them out, and then they just do it again?
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And they get arrested, like, what the fuck? The assistant to, the the DA in New York just got attacked. Just got by some guy who had been see if he can find this. He got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023. I was looking at the story online.
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I was like, this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people, and they just rob the assistant to the DA. Alvin Bracken?
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R o r ed out.
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01:16:30
Here it is. Suspected gang member accused of exposing himself robbing Manhattan District. Exposing himself. He pulled his dick out, and he robbed him. Exposing himself is funny because because they have go to the headline. Exposing himself is first. The robbing part, that’s second. But he showed him his penis. That is unbelievable.
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Unbelievable.
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What does he know is he’s about it, but it’s just like it’s comedy, bro. It’s like satire almost.
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01:16:58
Brandon Samosa confronted the 38 year old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th Street around 2 AM. Authorities say he grabbed the victim’s purse, cell phone, and bank card before exposing himself. He pulled his dick out after he robbed her. He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself fur like, the the heart most horrible thing that he did.
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Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel in West 45th Street, 8th Avenue on Tuesday leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant. Possession of drugs about no. They know who the guy is, Jamie. They caught the guy. He’s been, see if you can find a more updated version of it because, he’s he was arrested a ton of times since 2023.
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Exposing himself makes more sense now that it’s a lady. I I thought was that, Jamie? He’s still on there. Oh, okay. Right there.
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He’s been arrested 6 times in the last 5 months for similar crimes. Six times. When you think after 5 times ago, hey. Maybe this guy’s a real criminal.
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We might need to block him up.
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Maybe we’d need to put him in jail. Maybe he’s a real criminal. Nope. Keep him out there.
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There’s reasons.
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Jesus Christ. That’s the world we’re living in now, and that’s LA, and that’s New York, and that’s, a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people.
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I don’t know. I just feel safer knowing, like Police microphones. Oh, I feel safer knowing that Trump is in office.
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I do too.
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I, like, feel great about it. I just, like, I don’t
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feel safer is right now they’re launching missiles into Russia. Yeah. The how do you how are you allowed to do that when you’re on the way out? Like, the people don’t want you be there anymore. There should be, like, some sort of a, like, a pause for, like, significant actions that could potentially start World War 3.
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Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a a dying former president.
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Mhmm.
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That’s it’s the whole thing is nuts.
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I mean, look, I don’t know shit about politics.
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Zelensky says Putin is terrified. Fuck you, man. Fuck you people. You fucking people are about to start World War 3.
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Yeah. It’s crazy. Russia fired
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a missile today. Oh, yeah. They fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever. It’s the first time one of those has ever been used.
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That’s insanity.
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Fucking insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This one didn’t, but if it does, the whole world changes, and it changes because the military industrial complex, and it changes because the money that’s going to Ukraine, and it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is actually running the country has decided to do some decided to do something fucking insane.
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Yeah. That’s right. Insane. And we’re all sitting there watching it, and people are cheering it on. CNN was saying, like, finally.
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See what what their headline was about Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long range missiles. US made long it’s not like nobody knows where they came from. It’s not like nobody knows we’ve been funding this. It’s a proxy war. The whole thing is fucking insane. It’s insane. Come to the negotiation table. Sit down. Work this out. Stop killing everybody. US allows Ukraine to use long range missiles.
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So what did they say? Someone had said that, like, CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is how? How has the left gone so far crazy that they think it’s a good thing to launch missiles?
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It’s just
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That’s what’s scary about life is, like, you don’t wanna pay attention to that shit. You just wanna live your life. You wanna just be carefree and have fun and do the thing that you’re passionate about. And meanwhile, the world is burning and You
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can’t do anything about it. It’s like at that high level, it’s like there’s nothing
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Well, we can. We voted Trump in and Yeah. His his idea is to stop all this shit, and hopefully, he can do that.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, man, fuck. It’s scary.
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Feel like none of the fucking, problems between the Ukraine and Russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went had Trump been in office.
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I like to think that.
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I’ve I’ve I’ve genuinely believed that he has a way of keeping the peace in a certain way and, like Well,
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as soon as he got elected, the Taliban said, let’s form a truce. You know, Hamas is saying, look, let’s cease fire. Everybody is saying these things, like, right away. China was saying, we’d like to do business
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with
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America. Russia was saying that. Like, let’s fucking calm everybody down and stop being so fucking tribal.
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Yeah.
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You’re so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you’re on the left. This is insanity. And for anybody that’s a a left wing progressive person to think that somehow another missiles are a good thing, goddamn it. Goddamn it, you people are out of your fucking minds.
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The answer.
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This it’s never the end. It’s this is craziness, especially with Russia. Goddamn. Yep.
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But, anyway That’s
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the shit that keeps me up at night, man.
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Oh, I know.
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When when I get paranoid late at night when everyone’s asleep, that’s the thing that gets me.
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01:21:52
World War.
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Yeah. The war just because it’s happened before, man. The the world has been at peace before and then all of a sudden chaos. And to think that that can never happen again, you’re wrong. It’s happening right now. It’s just not happening here, and we don’t feel it here. So we don’t it doesn’t affect our thinking process, and we support things that could lead to it happening here.
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And we don’t even realize we’re doing it while we’re doing it.
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As a human being, like, wouldn’t you think that keeping yourself and the rest of the pop the population of the world safe is priority? Number 1. It’s priority.
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That’s number 1. And peace. And and By the way, everybody wants peace. Everybody wants their children to be happy. Everybody wants to be well fed and healthy. Everybody wants that. Yeah. Just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out.
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Yep. Jesus Christ. Well, you don’t get
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We’ll get 60 more days till Trump gets in or whatever it is. How many days is it, Jamie? But who knows? Maybe once he gets in, they’ll ramp it up. Who knows? Maybe they’ll sabotage his administration. That’s what’s even more scary. People don’t want him in power.
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And the people that are in power don’t wanna leave power, and they’ll try every way they can to keep it. 60 days from today. Alright.
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On the news.
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60 days.
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Keep your fingers crossed.
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Yeah. Just hope, Putin understands what’s going on as well, and Zelensky doesn’t do anything stupid. But saying that Putin’s terrified, goddamn it.
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It’s like you’re trying to, like, tug the tail of a fucking sleeping
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dragon. Dragon. Yeah. Also, Zelensky, can I
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get a drug test? Can we just
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get one drug test before we send you any more money? Like, what are you doing? Are you doing a lot of blow over there? Like, this is, like, blow like behavior.
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01:23:39
I’m not responsible for him. I wasn’t there. But you
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know what I’m saying? This is, like, cocaine like behavior. Putin’s fucking scared, man.
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01:23:44
Yeah. Putin’s terrified. Jacked up. We got him.
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We got him, man. We got him. Like, what are you talking about? He has nuclear missiles, you fucking monkeys. Jesus Christ.
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It’s my chance right now. Jesus Christ. Destruction.
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Yeah. Putin should not have invaded Ukraine. Yes. 100%. But don’t start World War 3. Like, there’s gotta be a way to settle this. There must be.
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I gotta put some of this into my music, like, these feelings and, like, even the conversations we’re having and just
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One of my best my favorite anti war songs is Ghetto Boys. Fuck a War. Yeah. Bushwick Bill. Willie d told me he wrote that in 40 minutes.
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I like ghetto boys. I
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Love ghetto boys.
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Storytellers. Like Yes. Like polo, cool g rap.
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Oh, yeah, man.
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And that area.
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Cock blocking? Yeah. Fucking love storytellers.
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Oh my god. Scarface and Yeah. And cool g.
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The L Street Blues?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. No. I love cool g rap.
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I’m on the verge of committing murder. It’s like a whole fucking plot.
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He had a great flow too. Yeah. Yeah. He had a great flow. Yeah. Yeah. Cool g rap was awesome.
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Hip hop’s different these days, man.
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I heard he’s like a someone somebody’s a devout religious man now.
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Really?
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See if that’s true. I always wondered what happened to that dude. That that was a guy that I felt like didn’t get his due, like, on the world stage. Like, people don’t respect him for as good as he really was. Because I I would tell, like, some young guys about coogee rap, but they don’t even know who he is. And I played music in the the green room.
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You ever hear the brand new heavies, like the jazz band when they lay linked up with a bunch of rappers, the heavy rhyme experience, have you ever heard that album?
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Of course. Yeah.
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Koogee Raps Death Threat is the best track on that. Yeah. I play that shit in the green room with the mothership, and I was like, what is this, man? He’s saying some shit. Yes. He’s saying some shit, and it’s with the brand new heavies playing the music.
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Funky. Yeah.
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Fucking tremendous. Jazz. Tremendous. They did a great thing with Gang Starr too.
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Yep.
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They they have a a great song with Gang Starr too that’s on that. Mhmm. Yeah. I love That’s where
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I entered into my passion and love for hip hop is that era. Yeah. I was saying that earlier, but
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That’s one of my favorite eras. Nas, you know, Illmatic, God’s Heart.
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That’s like one of it’s almost like the Sergeant Pepper’s rap. Yeah. Illmatic.
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Yeah, man. Oh my god. And how old was he when he made that?
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He was young, man.
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Really young.
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I’d like to say, one love
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Yeah. Genius. How about rewind? Yeah. Rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time. Yeah. Because he tells a story backwards.
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Yeah. Insane.
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And it’s genius. And it’s it’s fun. And it’s it’s the flow’s great.
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Mind melting shit.
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I think Nas is my all time favorite lyricist.
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Yeah.
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It’s like Nas and and then everybody else is like I mean, I love them all, but, like, to me Nas is a special lyricist. Like, his lyrics are like like he’s got so many oh moments. When you listen to me, he’ll, like, oh oh. It’s not even
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just punch lines. It’s like just a whole subject matters of the way he described.
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The way he hits things. He can
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paint a picture.
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He paints a picture, but it’s the way the way he chooses his words, like, we were listening to Get Down last night. Oh my god. Goddamn. That’s good.
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A word choice. M is m is to me, like, one of the really, like, the greats of that. Oh, for sure. Things in a different amount of syllables or a word that you wouldn’t expect. It’s just real creative shit. Yeah. I love Jadakiss and style speed. I think Jadakiss is, like, in my my top tops. DMX.
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My workout music is Wu Tang Clan.
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Oh, yeah.
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That’s my workout music. Gravel pit, when you hit in the bag. Of course. You know, and when when whenever we do shows, we have, like, a a ritual. Like, when we’re driving to the arena, especially if we’re getting a police escort, which is the craziest shit of all time. You’re going to do a show and you got a police escort, and we always listen to protect your neck. Like, oh, we gotta play it. Like, okay.
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Here we go.
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Let’s go. Protect your neck. Let’s go. We’re on our way to the arena. And then once we get in the door, I’m your boogeyman. KC and the sunshine band.
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Boogie man.
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I know Casey. Man. Yeah. Like, just to get everything going. Like, let’s go.
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KC. You mentioned his name. I have to do it. I see him at the Hit Factory in Miami one time. I was like, wow. It’s fucking Casey. Casey and the sunshine band. And we meet, and he’s like, I saw your MTV Cribs, and I’m just gonna tell you, I spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month.
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I was just like, what the heck? Wow.
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What a weird flex.
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What a weird flex. I was like, okay.
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Okay. Cool. You got that. Wasted money because that flowers are gonna die. Right. And I got a Bugatti. So to each his own Bizarre quotes.
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That doesn’t even make any sense.
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You’re getting robbed. Okay? You’re getting your florist is a piece of shit.
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Hey. Everybody’s got their own thing.
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I know. You’re getting robbed. If you’re spending that much money on your flowers, you are getting fucking robbed.
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Facetious, buddy. He’s he was making a point.
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But that’s a crazy flex.
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It’s crazy.
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It’s also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody.
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Yeah. I had just met him.
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But in that one of those things where you, like, you used to be on top and you wanna show everybody you’re still on top, just like you were talking about, like, wearing the diamonds in the jewelry. Go up to the guy who’s hot right now and say, yeah. I saw your MTV cribs, but guess what?
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My flowers are Yeah.
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I spend more money on dirt.
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Dude, I’ve seen some crazy shit in my life, bro. I’ve had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from no nothing and rose to, like, a place where it’s like I’ve seen life on every side of, like I’ve seen life as a poor boy. I’ve seen life as making it, made it, blew it, this, that. I’ve seen like I remember sitting in St. Barts.
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I had been invited on the boat of pretty successful also very wealthy Russian people that I knew I know. And sitting there chilling, doing my normal, like, just hanging thing, and I see a a battleship pull up. Like, a actual, like, fucking army or navy, whatever fuck boat pull up near us.
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Somebody gets off the tender, gets on the boat I’m on, and it was Gaddafi’s son. Woah. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? This is surreal.
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This is and What year is this?
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Is Gaddafi still alive? Yeah.
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I I forget I don’t forget what year it was. I think it was, like, 2,000 8.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Like that. So he’s probably still alive. Yeah. Definitely still alive. He was telling me how his country is becoming much more, like, open minded and normal and this and that. And I had a keyboard. I was, like, jamming out playing and shit. I’m just such a fucking weirdo. I was, like, playing Hava Nagila. Like, fuck. I’m just like, I’m just a weirdo, dude.
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That was funny. But I’ve seen some shit, man. I’ve seen the fucking craziest.
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It’s a great American story. Yeah. That’s the great American story, you know, like, coming from nothing, chasing your dream, making your dream, fucking up your life along the way, but still alive to tell the story. You know?
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To see fucking BMF out at the club all the time and, like, be in the club. And I’ll be like, yo, these guys over there, they just sent you 20 bottles of Cristal. And you’re like, okay. Who are they? And they’re like, this is the fucking this is the guys. I’m like, okay. Cool. Thank you, guys.
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Like, they were fucking cool shit to me every time I see him. Weird. Yeah. I never had any drama. I never had any, like, crazy situations happen because I think in the terms of, like, I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people, like, trying to, like, make it, like, rappers from the streets.
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Like, so people were just always cool with me and, like, I was respectful to everybody around me.
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Did you ever have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? No. That was it?
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That was it.
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You ever talked to him after?
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I knew what I had to do. I had to, like, make my own world and, like, people that love me and be around those people. And
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That’s a terrible way to think. Yeah. It’s such a terrible way to think that someone just because of the color of their skin, even though they’re they work with you and you’re cool together, that you could just out that person.
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Shit that the other side has endured over, like Of course. Beginning of time. It’s like, okay. So what? Whatever. But it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam. Right. I thought and, like, I guess, like, I just felt like I just felt fucked up. And I was like, you know what? If anybody knows me, they know that, like, I’m not that devil.
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Like, I’m the guy that’s just as loving, like, free spirited, like, open minded, like, non racist.
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Right. But that doesn’t sell headlines, buddy.
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Yeah. I know.
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The white devil sells headlines. The white devil gets people feeling better about themselves.
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I moved to LA and and started working in Trey’s camp, and I felt so much love and respect and, like, I was I was made to feel like what I was bringing to the table and that crew was like they were, like, identifying that shit, and they were, like, praising me and making me feel great.
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Well, you know the expression. Game recognizes game.
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Yeah. Right?
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Yeah. That’s what it is. People see you and they hear you and they know they see, like, oh, this guy’s a wizard. Like, what’s going on? Okay. You’re staying here for a long time, Scott.
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I let a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs like like the doctor Dre’s of the world. It’s like they’re trying to hang in there with me, like, for fuck, bro. Like, at some point, you know, they gotta, like, put me on time out. You know what
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I mean? So Well, that’s probably good for you too. Yeah. When you disappoint people that you respect and care for
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Yeah.
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That’s that’s, like, that’s a real emotional rock bottom.
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Mhmm.
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You know? That’s and that’s sometimes people need that to course correct. If everything’s going great, you have no reason to stop doing blow and partying all night. Everything’s perfect. And, you know, there’s a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because they’re feeding off of you.
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Misery loves company.
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There’s that, but then there’s also people that, like, all they wanna do is, keep you happy because they make a living off of you, and so they don’t wanna rock the boat. Right.
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So they don’t care, like, if you’re destroying yourself. But the truth is there’s 2 different modes. There’s the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fucking eat pizza and just as, like, a normal guy. And then when I flip to that other thing, the cocaine is not a drug you can really make. I feel like good music on.
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It may seem good when you’re making it,
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but you
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listen to it the next day because any the emotions, it’s like a whirlwind of emotions that you feel when you’re in that world. Like, you really feel like happiness, sadness, this, that, the other, like, all these things all within 10 minutes. You could have all these emotions, and it’s no good.
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So how are you gonna stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way?
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Right.
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So
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That’s I mean, I’ve never done coke, but everybody that I know does coke says you can’t perform on it. It fucks you up. You don’t feel right. You you you know?
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No. Because you’re feeling 20 different emotions inside of the minute. And it’s like, you can only think about one thing when you’re on it is that. That’s it. So,
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yeah, there’s no real good Not
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recommended for anybody.
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Not anybody who’s got, like, a great Coke story. No. Maybe one night. But most Coke stories lead to my life fell apart.
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No happy ending? No. No happy ending?
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No. There’s no, like, Coke advocates.
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Right. You know,
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there’s a lot of marijuana advocates. They’ll tell you, hey, marijuana changed my life. Marijuana made me more compassionate. That’s me. Marijuana made me a kinder person, more sensitive, you know, more in the community, more into love. Nobody says that about there’s no cocaine fixed my life.
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My life is kind of a mess, and I started doing blow. And then, man, it all just came together, you You know? I realized that’s what I need. I was a little I think I’m a little imbalanced. I just need cocaine every day.
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I remember being so perplexed. I I I don’t like throwing people under the bus, so I won’t say who it is. But one of the most massive people in the world of technology, like, in the world of these younger computer guys that became extremely famous, like, start people that started Facebooks and this and that, all that type of shit.
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Like, one of those guys. I’m not gonna say who, but, like, somebody who’s fucking so huge. I went to visit him with some friends of mine. I’m sitting at a table, whacking it up, and he’s telling me that he just had a heart attack a couple of nights before. And then he started talking about how cocaine is one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world. I was like, what the fuck am I listening to?
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Me even being onto the influence was like, this is frightening. This was one of those guys, like, one of the big, big, like, change the world kind of people.
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So he was telling you he just had a heart attack, but cocaine is awesome. Yeah. And he’s super smart
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Yeah. Which is even scarier
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because you can convince yourself that
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you’re right. Knows who this guy is. Wow. Whole world. But, you know, I don’t know. I’ve had many situations where I don’t know. People so selfishly even knowing, recovering or recovered or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, wanna, like, have the opportunity to do something to pull me aside.
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Like, I always wanted to do a bump with you. Like, yeah, man. But no. We can’t do that, bro.
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When was the last time you did 1?
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Oh, shit. I mean, I’ve I’ve fallen within the past 6 months, but, you know, I got good people around me now.
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That’s good.
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And then, like, the shame and the guilt and everything just prevents you from from enjoying that and making like, even thinking about doing it. Like, can’t do it.
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That’s good. That’s good. Amen. 6 months is great. Yeah. 6 days is great.
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The whole the whole
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thing is just you’re gonna fall. And if you fall, get up. Yep. Get up. It’s okay. You’re human being. Human beings fuck up. They make mistakes.
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Yep.
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Especially when you’re dealing with something like addiction. And most people think that can never be me. That could be never be I’m not like that. Yeah. It could definitely be you.
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There’s things Definitely be you. Trigger it and, like, it’s usually pussy. Mhmm. You know what I’m saying? Like, you’re not it it is like, you have no intention whatsoever of of, doing something, and then all of a sudden, it’s right there in front of you. There’s a fucking ass naked girl and there’s a pile of this and there’s you had, like, 2 drinks.
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I’ve done it before. And I could just do it this one time.
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Yeah. I’m gonna be okay. Yeah. We’ll be okay. 3 days later, you’re looking out the window like, like, what the fuck?
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Bloodshot eyes. Like, you have pink eye.
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Uh-uh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But too much too much going on now, man.
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That’s kinda being the movie.
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With my my single, with, like, my album. You know, it’s just Well, it seems like you’re
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in a good place.
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That’s great. Place.
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That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Well, it’s, I think it’s so important for people like you to tell your story raw and unedited like you do. Because I think people wanna see a a person that’s been very successful, and they wanna have this rosy view of what their life was like.
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People love to, like, build you up, but they love tearing you down. Oh, yeah. Sometimes, like, it becomes like a and then for me, like, in my business, it’s such a desperate business. If people know I’m of sound mind and, like, at the top of my game and I’m making some fucking fire ass music, that’s a threat for certain people.
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Of course.
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So they’ll block it, like and they’ll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever the fuck to make sure that I don’t get behind. There there be, like, a goalie for the artist. Like Right. So many huge artists, they, like, they don’t want me to get with them because they know it’s gonna happen. I’m gonna make better shit.
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People don’t like when someone’s talented, and they don’t like when someone’s successful because everybody compares themselves to other people. That’s the real the real problem is that comparison is the thief of joy. Is that Thoreau?
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Is that what it was? Say that? I think
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it was Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson? Yeah. Thoreau is most men live live lives of quiet desperation. But comparison is the thief of joy is that’s a real thing, man. And if you’re a person that’s looking at someone else’s success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that, you’re doing it to yourself whether you real realize it or not.
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You are wasting your own precious life energy on hating on a person.
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Mhmm.
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And that will take away your gift. It’ll take away your creativity. It’ll take away your ability to be present.
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That. Because they’re fools.
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That’s why they do in the first place.
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Job security.
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It’s it’s a foolish venture. And even if it works even if it works, you’re doing yourself into because you know you’re a piece of shit. You know that you’ve done that to a person. You know you’ve distorted who that person is from just because you wanna feel better about your own life.
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You want someone to falter so that you don’t feel when you’re comparing yourself to them, you don’t feel inadequate. Mhmm. And that’s that’s the reason. It’s just pettiness. It’s just human weakness, and it’s one of its grossest forms. It’s not called out enough.
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You know, it’s it’s it’s really dis it’s a disgusting behavior pattern that’s bad for humanity.
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I genuinely feel joy and excitement and happiness for friends or colleagues that have success.
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Yeah. You should. And
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it’s inspiring. I just see so many others that just don’t, like, look at it like that. They because
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they’re selfish. Yeah. They’re But it’s haters. But that’s a good thing, and you could say that that’s selfish in a way because when you help people and when you’re inspired by other people’s success and when you enjoy other people’s success, you are experiencing a positive thing, and that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life.
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Like, to deny yourself that because you can’t control your emotions and you can’t control your jealousy and your feelings and to, like, hate on someone, you’re denying yourself an opportunity to feel good. Yeah. And you could genuinely feel happy for everyone’s success and still be successful. It doesn’t take away your success at all.
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It’s just a mental trap,
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and people need to understand that trap. It could be. It is insecurity.
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But it’s also an Insecurities. It
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is insecurity.
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But
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it’s also a lack of understanding of how your mind works, how the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you, and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views.
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01:43:00
We fall into certain
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ways. Yes. Like We fall into certain ways.
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When I was in the fucking the limelight and now I’m, like, in, like, team Hilton, and I’m hanging out with certain people. I’m hanging out with, like, some fucking, like, spoiled brat, lucky sperm club ass, fucking degenerates, and, like, basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew.
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Like, you don’t see that happening until, like, I looked back at videos and things. I mean, I was like, dude, what a chump. I was, like, doing that. Well, I was, like, slowly but surely, like, turning into that
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Yeah.
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Just to be like I don’t know. Just that’s the shit that’s fucked up. Like, he does have to, like, really always maintain who you really are and, like, not get lost in that shit and, like, live for others or try and be
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Did did we were we talking about this in the podcast the other day, or was it a green room conversation? Someone said that personalities are as infectious as diseases.
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It can be.
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Someone was saying that, like, energy, like, people’s energy is as of infectious as diseases. And when you’re around someone that has a great personality and and very positive, you get infected by that positivity.
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Start exuding that.
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And when you’re around shitheads, like, fucking dumbasses who just think in a stupid fucking way, you start thinking that way. It’s it’s contagious. There’s something to it.
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You gotta be careful about the company we keep.
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Oh my god.
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This world is so polluted right now.
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The most important thing. It’s the most important thing is your community. Right? Your family, your friends, your community, the people that you associate with. And if you’re associating with shitheads, you’re gonna have a fucked up experience.
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Dude, the less people I come in contact for me is the better. Like, I like being home. I like going to nice restaurants, and I like being home. I don’t really like going out and fucking because all that energy rubs off on you and Yeah. People’s karma, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah.
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Kinda like
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The anxiety, everything. Although the weirdness of people comparing with each other, who’s got the better watch, who’s wearing the nicer shoes. Like, what the fuck are we doing?
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Over that.
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It’s stupid. That’s good. You’re smart. You’re wiser.
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Yep. It takes time to figure these things out, like
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But
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But better late than never. Yeah. But but you still
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have the art. You still have the desire for the art. Like, that through the whole
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thing lost that passion that we spoke of earlier for a while, and now it’s back like a motherfucker. Beautiful. Yeah. I’m in there, like
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That’s the American success story. And when you rather that than at the type height of your fame with the party and the drugs and the fucking chaos and falling apart, it’s better to just, like, embrace the art. That’s where like, the
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creative real. I don’t wanna fuck with it. Right. Like, I’m I’m, like, not gonna, like, chase checks to work on music. Like, I’m gonna work on what’s great, and that’s how you fucking do what’s right. You stay in your lane and Yeah. You do what’s you know? Is there any way to play the single I got coming? Or Sure. I think I have it. I have it. But I’m a show you this girl who’s 21.
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Is there a picture that you can have a picture. You don’t have a picture? Because, like, it’s like, I have the single coming.
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I just have the song. I can Google it or something.
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No. It’s all good. I’ll I’ll show you. But the girl is, like, organic. Like, she doesn’t need auto tune. She’s not like like, she’s real. So
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Mhmm.
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This is just an example.
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Auto tune is a wild thing.
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Yeah. Abby Stare. Texture. I mean, I don’t see this every day in, like, artists. It’s usually, like, some
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it ain’t for the week. So don’t try this, Sam. Yes. It’s a fun game still. It’s your
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So what you’re listening to is a girl
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That’s amazing voice.
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Writes that shit. See the conviction. If you get a songwriter, a big fancy songwriter to work with some girl and, like, teach her how to, have emotion, it’s not the same as here she is.
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It’s a lot of Amy Winehouse vibes.
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Yeah. Let me Amy Winehouse vibes
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in that song.
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In in this fact that it’s both organic Yeah. Different, like
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No. Not different. Not like she’s copying Amy Wine, but, like, that vibe of authenticity. Yeah. Yeah. And she’s a real She’s 21?
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21. Damn. And the emotion is there that comes from
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And she writes all that.
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Yeah. She’s like That’s incredible. That shit is not something like that
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could be Put that up again, Jamie.
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Melody.
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Is that available right now? Can I get that?
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Yeah. Yeah. It would just I’m gonna add that
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shit to my Spotify playlist.
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Right. I’m gonna put that on the green room playlist right now. On my own? Yep. That’s gonna be the first one. Let me look. I’m showcasing her. That’s my this is my single. It’s Scott Storch featuring Abby’s there, but she we’re you know, I’m part of the making of her physical her album, which is already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own that she made, and then stuff I did with her and, 1217 records, me and my partner, Kevin.
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Yeah. We’re
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That voice is amazing, man.
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Oh, she’s dope. And, you know, I got some great records. I got records with a list celebrities like that. You know, it’s not exciting to play, like, for me, a record with somebody who has already sold 1,000,000 and millions of records, like, for my project. I wanna break I’ve I made a habit in my career of breaking artists, and, like, I’ve like, I did Chris Brown’s first song, and I told him sitting in the studio, I was gonna make you a hit record today.
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He was, like, 15, 16, and I did that. We made run it that day. I’ve done a lot of you know? When I came back into the business after my, like, dark period of just not doing anything except doing drugs, which lasted 8, 9 years, I met Steve LaBelle. And Steve, not only were we partners on the rehab center, but he was helping me get back into the music thing, and he I was like, yo.
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Get me a meeting with Jay z. Get me Beyonce. Give me all the people I made hits for. He’s like, fuck no. They’re not gonna work with you right now. Show them what you’re doing. I’m a give you the best blueprint.
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Some people like to jump the gun.
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Yeah. He’s like, this artist, this artist, this artist, this artist, this artist. These are all new artists. You don’t know who they are. But if you make them fire, everybody’s gonna look at you like you’re a fucking get the Heisman trophy again. Like you know what I’m saying? Yeah.
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1 by 1, every single one of those artists that he put me with that were nobodies at this point are all huge right now. Trippie Redd, a Boogie, Roddy Ricch, Russ, who’s one of my favorites. Like, I love Russ. I don’t know if you’re familiar with his music. He’s just like he’s got something to say. He’s like, he’s the man. Like, you gotta, like, fuck with Russ. He’s a really serious artist today.
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I’ve seen this guy without radio because he has a fan base, a cult fan base because what he does is so real. Without radio or any shit, he’s selling out arenas by himself.
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That’s amazing.
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Yeah. It’s amazing. He’s just
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I love that that’s happening today.
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Yeah.
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They’ve kinda taken the gatekeeper. The gatekeeper is out of the equation now. Yeah. All something has to do is be good and get it online.
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He released, 200 songs in 1 year just like SoundCloud or whatever the fuck it was. Wow. Yes.
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200 songs in a year? Yeah. Holy shit.
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You know, and he just started that consistency. Yeah. People always became an acquired taste, and then
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So you just you love watching people make it.
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Yeah. I like being responsible for that. It’s more of a challenge than just, I’m gonna make Drake a hit. You know, I really wanna work with Drake, but I’ve been roadblock with Drake. I know Drake loves me and my production, but for whatever reason, I haven’t been able to get in.
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I wanna get ahold of Drake and talk to him about his fight pics. Yeah. That motherfucker loses more money on fights. I wanna call him up and say you have Jon Jones by KO. Before it’s over,
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I need to get a record off
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with him. Hit. Right?
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I wanna get a record off with him.
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Wasn’t Jon Jones a 600 to 1 favorite? I mean, well, he had it by KO and just to win. But yeah. Well, that’s what I would have said. Yeah. Anyway But I mean, I would not have thought Jon would’ve I mean, that’s a easy bet.
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I wanna get a record off with Rihanna too. I had a very uncomfortable meeting with Rihanna, and I’m mortified to this day.
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Uncomfortable because of the cocaine? No. What happened?
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I she was in a VIP in New York years years ago and doing her thing or whatever, and they like, obviously, people know who I am, so they didn’t from. And they let me up into her table. This was a greenhouse and back in the day. And I introduced myself and whatever, and I gave her a hug.
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And I fucking got hooked on to her hoop earring. My clothes got hooked on. And, like, don’t move. Don’t move. Don’t move. No.
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It was shit’s gonna I almost ripped the fucking ear off accidentally. Oh, no. That walk out of that VIP room was
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the most
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mortified, most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life. I was
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like cool. I bet she
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I bet she doesn’t even remember that. Do that. Like, I wouldn’t mean to get her earring. I know, but That’s
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an accident.
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You’re that guy at that moment. Oh, no. Oh, that guy. So, yeah, it haunts me. You’re meaning somebody else’s name? Hook up with that earring. You wanna make a good impression, you get her ear ripped off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Life is full of surprises.
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Yeah. So I is is like your favorite is your favorite thing seems to be breaking new people then? Is it because you get to show the world new talent? Is it does it remind you of you when you were getting your breaks?
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You’re helping sculpt what somebody’s sound is gonna be with backbone, what where they started, like, like, creating something new. And, I think that’s, to me, like, my sound has always been to not have a sound and, like, you know, have, like, different, like, genetic strains of music.
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I call them, like Yeah. Like, different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing. And then when people start doing it so much, you’re honored, copying you, and then you move on to the next thing. But, like, with artists, you get to, like, concoct some kinda new vibe with them. I did Beyonce’s first solo album. We made a sound. We did 3 smashes.
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I did 3 straight smashes out of 3 songs I did. 1 was baby boy, naughty girl, and me, myself, and I. And at that point, I had just moved from LA, and, like, I had been working with Dre for so many years. And I’m look looking at Dre. I’m like, Dre has his empire, and I need to, like, go off and, like, create my empire, not competing, but doing something different within music and not using that sound that he and I created and sculpt together, which was like the new wave of West Coast music.
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I moved back to Florida to Miami where I hadn’t been in eons. I because I went from Florida as a kid into I lived there till I was 15. I moved to to, Philly with my dad and then from Philly to LA. And now I’m going from back you know, to go start my own little world. I’m now rich. Okay? And I go home to Florida. I’m rich, and I’m ready to fucking make my own little sound and shit, create some shit.
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Beyonce was one of the first contestants, and we fucking solidified that shit and made history with that album. Like, I remember she did the Grammys, and she thanked god, and then she thanked me first. Like and I was like, I have it up. I’m like, it was like one of the biggest honors of the world, like and, like, we made history, and that was like the that’s, like, that’s the ultimate thing that I wanna continue to do is, like, I wanna do that with Abby.
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And I feel like once I get driven like that, there’s nothing could stop me, to prove my point.
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That’s beautiful. Yeah.
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Scott, it’s been great talking
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to you, man. I really appreciate it. Appreciate you coming down here. It’s been a lot of fun.
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Thanks, man. Wow. We did 3 hours or
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It’s close. Like, 2 and a half hours now.
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That’s crazy. Yeah. I could talk. Right? Yeah, man.
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Well, you got good stories. You got good story, and you have a good story. Your your story is a good story. Yeah. And like I said, I think it’s a it’s a great story for people to hear. People that’s why people like biographies, you know, people like to find out, like, what was it easy for you? Why am I struggling? Like, what is this struggle like?
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Is it the same for everybody? When you’re struggling yourself, you think you’re alone. And when you have a dream and you don’t know if it’s gonna come true, you go, was everybody like this?
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Nothing great comes easy.
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Nothing. Nothing.
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Thank you for having me.
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My pleasure, brother. Pleasure to meet you. Pleasure to hang with you.
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My man.
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Appreciate you very much. Sure. Alright. Bye, everybody. Bye.
