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Jeff Dye is a stand-up comic, actor, and broadcast personality. His YouTube special “The Last Cowboy in LA” premieres on November 14.
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#2229 – Jeff Dye Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the discussion revolves around various topics, including comedy, politics, and social media dynamics. Joe Rogan and his guest delve into the art of comedy, emphasizing the importance of staying relevant by incorporating topical and political content into performances. They discuss the balance between originality and hackneyed jokes, using examples like a P Diddy joke and a Vegas Luxor joke to illustrate their points.
The conversation also touches on the role of social media in modern discourse. The speakers highlight how platforms like Twitter and X can be used for meaningful discussions, despite the prevalent narcissism and desire for attention. They suggest that engaging in interesting conversations with strangers online can be beneficial.
Marc Andreessen, a notable venture capitalist, is mentioned as a previous guest who provided insights into the “woke” culture, describing it as a form of religion with its own mechanisms for excommunication.
The episode also features anecdotes from the comedy world, including a story about comedian Tom Dustin’s controversial set at a Comedy Central event, which underscores the tension between artistic expression and industry expectations.
Throughout the episode, a recurring theme is the importance of authenticity and having fun with the audience, as well as the challenges comedians face in navigating the expectations of both the industry and the audience. The overall message encourages staying true to oneself while engaging with current events and societal issues in a humorous and insightful manner.
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#2229 – Jeff Dye Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe
Ai meh day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. I used to have a dog that had terrible I mean, Ai don’t have I’m always traveling, and also, like, I’m not real good with discipline of, like, someone else. You know? Like, I don’t know how to train a dog, so I just let him do anything. So I think it was hilarious. He’d be, like, chewing on something.
Like, check that out. They’re like, he shouldn’t do that. I was like, ai it. Let him like, I just liked the idea that he was wild. It made me happy.
It’s very bad though if, you know, your dog bites somebody.
Oh, he’s always just humping stuff and, like, eating the he was a Ridgeback. Oh, Rhodesian Ridgeback? Yeah.
my mind, I’m like, well, why do I wanna rain tyranny on this dog and be ai, he needs to sai. He needs kinda ai that
like this little psycho that would hump things and
That’s fun, but you gotta be able to control them.
No. Ai know. I couldn’t. Yeah.
How old were you back then?
I was young. It’s like 31 or something at the time. It was it was like young. It’s not that young. Young to me, dude. I didn’t become an adult for a while. For, like, 6
Yeah. Yeah. Well, about 4 years, I think, is when no. But I’ve that dog, I would open the door. He would just dart. And I was, like, ai, this dog is unhinged.
Ai let him You liked it. Yeah. I liked it. That’s cool. Yeah. I’ve had some crazy dogs but it’s ai you gotta train them. I know. They have to listen to you.
a lot of pit bulls when I was
You have they have to listen.
You look like a pit bull.
They have to have, like, they have to have a sense that you’re the boss. You have to be kind and speak. You love them, but you’re the boss. Like, you have to train them. I train my dog diligently. Ai was like, see treat, sit, stay, light up, make them stay for 5 minutes, and then give them a big treat and hug them and kiss them.
You gotta, like, make sure they fucking listen.
Well, that was the problem. Ai that I would literally like, he would be doing something, and I’d be like, he doesn’t respect me. And I would fit like, it was just it was that’s as simple as it was. My dog he saw me as, like, a cool guy. He didn’t respect meh.
Yeah. Exactly. So, like, I would leave him with his dog trainer in Sherman Oaks, and the dog trainer would send me videos, and he’d be ai, look. And I would I would think, look at me. My money’s going to good. He look at what my dog is doing. He’s doing a little turn and but it’s because he respected that guy. And so then he would come back to my house.
He’d just piss on the couch while he’s laying there. And I’m going, wait. What was all that stuff he learned? He goes, my dog’s looking at me going, not for you. Yeah. You’re my friend. Yeah.
You’ve been my fucking roommate, bro.
We were buds. It’s a bulldog.
Which is a metaphor for my life too. Like, I Ai was the fun piss on the couch ai. But at some point, you gotta grow up and be disciplined and
You really do. Yeah. You don’t have as much fun, but you’ve the fun that you have, you appreciate.
Yeah. Because it’s ai, it’s not out of control. Yeah. My dog that I have now is the first dog that I’ve ever had that was so easy to train. It’s like I didn’t even train him.
And it’s a golden, aren’t they kinda dumb? Is that No.
They’re just sweet. They’re sweet sai people think they’re dumb, but he understands words. Like, I’ll say not that door, dude. Let’s go in the side door. And he turns around and goes towards the side door. Like, he’s he gets it. Like, he’s a fucking smart dog, but training him was like that. Really?
Oh, my God. First of all, Bryden have no resistance. They don’t wanna fight. They don’t wanna they never growl at people. They never if they bark, if they see something weird, they never bark at people. Like, they’re just the sweetest dogs.
So they just want you to be your their friend. So I teach them to sit was, like, really easy. It was, like, sai. I push his butt down, and then I put then I give him a little treat, and then and then I’d say sit. He just sit down.
And then next day, it was, like, sit. He sat. Pat him on the head. Give him a kiss. He now he just listens.
It was like ai the metaphor for for humans. We like to have a little, approval. Like, it’s less
less of the treat and the pat on the head. Ai I made dad happy.
Yeah. They’re the most liked people. Yeah. Those dogs. They’re the most like ai.
What’s the dumb breed? Because I don’t wanna keep doing this. There’s a lot of dumb Sometimes I’ll see, like, a Dalmatian, and then I’ll ask that one. Poor little Carl. Carl was
Carl’s about the brightest, but his brain’s the size of my thumb. It’s not that one’s ever big head.
They’re cute though. That’s the thing. I
love the shah out of that dog. Yeah. He’s so jacked too. Look how jacked is.
His little muscles. He’s in constant shape.
Well, him and Marshall, like, go to war. Like, he just said when when Marshall’s here, like, Carl Carl gets so tired from playing with my dog because my dog doesn’t fight back, so he just totally takes advantage of it. Just throws himself at ai like a torpedo. But when it’s over, he, like, can’t breathe.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because he’s he was bred to not He’s got no Rest up. Yeah.
He’s got no fucking nasal cavity. It’s like,
it is a weird dog. That used to be a wolf. They look like aliens.
But it’s so fucking weird that humans turn a wolf into that fucking thing.
I think it’s our best invention.
It’s a pretty cool job. Ai, not saying it’s an ethical thing or a smart thing. It’s kind of like, you know, if you
you were doing to a wolf, it’s ai fucked up. But But he doesn’t need to survive.
That thing’s yeah. He’s got Jamie. He’s got us. He’s he’s in the safest place in America right now.
Like, when you see those ladies that carry him around in little purses, get a dog carrying around with their purse? Yeah.
That’s ai, they used to be a wolf. That’s wild.
They’re trying to do that to us.
What I know. That’s the problem. Jeff. Just keep your dogs.
They’re trying to do that to us.
Don’t change me. They sana do it to everybody. I know.
If Kamala won, we would have been one step closer to poodles.
That’s right. Yeah. Every day I was getting closer. That’s why I’m single too. I’m just trying to hold on to any freedom Ai got. It’s what you
gotta find someone that you jive with that gets you and that’s what’s hard. It’s ai people wanna change people. Girls look at ai. They look at some guys like a project. Like, I know
he doesn’t wanna settle down. I know he doesn’t want this. But if I could just get him to start changing the way he dresses I know. And then I meh him to do to open the car door for meh, like, my hands don’t work. I know. I’m still I’m the Ridgeback we were just talking about ai I’m going just tyler me be wild.
Let me, like, you know, like, I I I’ll spend, like, 24 hours with a woman and just enjoy every second of it. I enjoy every, like, all the affection, the door opening. I enjoy these kind of things, you know, taking care of someone, showing them out. Open up the car door? Do you I like that? Yeah. I like that. But, I’ll show them my life. You know? Hey. These are my comedy buddies, and watch me go kill on stage.
Oh, I got this. I’ll pay for everything. And about, like, at a 24 hours of my brain, I’m like, Sai gotta get out of this. Like, how, like, how do I reset?
Dosing. Maybe it’s like binge drinking.
You know, if you have a glass of wine with dinner, you don’t feel like
like, oh, get that fucking wine away from me.
But as you drink like Bert
drink fucking boxes of wine. Patrice had. He doesn’t know how like, he’s so this one of a kind person that everything he says and all the advice he tries to give don’t work for anyone else because he’s one of a kind. So he’ll say, here’s what you gotta do, and you go, that doesn’t apply to me. Do you know what I’m saying?
We can’t be on a treadmill drinking a box of wine and then go to a show for $200. We’re different people. He he keep going. I’ve never
seen anyone like him. He’s a freak athlete, believe it or not. I believe that. Tom Segura played him in a game of tennis, and Tom got a tennis coach. They had this, like, this big tennis match. They even did it on, like, one of those, your mom’s house live screens.
You know, like, they made a big deal out of it. Big tennis match. Bert destroyed him.
Oh, yeah. Drunk. Makes total sense. Yeah.
Yeah. Giant belly, serves like a pro. He said he literally serves like a fucking division 1 college player.
I didn’t know that about him. Great. That’s pretty impressive. He goes, what the fuck?
Yeah. He goes, his serve is insane.
That makes total sense. I mean, I’m not yeah. I’m, like, somewhat surprised by the ai. Yeah. Just got it. Yeah. He just knows how
to do he’s also got this bizarre confidence Yeah. That allows him to not have anxiety about trying new things.
Great for this business. Oh, yeah.
Just dives in, takes his shirt off. Whoo.
Look at me. Well, I was just thinking, like because early, he went on something where he was gone. If if you if someone tells you to quit drinking, don’t stop drinking. Tell tell them to shut up. Drinking’s the best thing. Ai go, oh, Jesus Christ. You know how many alcoholics are hearing this right now, Bert? Yeah. Like, some people should quit. Some people shouldn’t. I get what he’s trying to do.
he was trying to do. What am I ai this.
Boom. Oh, that was beautiful.
What what is he doing there? He hit it over the fence.
Yeah. But the form of that was beautiful.
Tom’s flustered. Yeah. He’s really good. Tom’s just happy he didn’t snap his leg here.
Boom. Yeah. Look ai look at that fucking serve. Yeah. Bro, it’s got a curve to it too.
Oh, that’s great. Also, Bert looks fit here.
Well It’s the outfit. That’s for him. For him, he’s fit. You know, he loses weight. He gets way down, then he binges up again.
He gets crazy again. He lost, like, £60 and got real fit, didn’t drink for, like, 3 months. Yeah. And then he just goes crazy again.
Yeah. Has a good time. Well, I love him, though. But I was just saying, like, the advice thing. Like, did did you ever work with Patrice or know him good? Yeah. One time I’m in New York. This is the late great Patrice O’Neil. I’m going through a thing with a girl at the time. And, you know, people ask you how you’re doing, and if you’re sad, I’m a pretty honest guy.
I just go, you know, this my my girlfriend’s driving me crazy. She’s back at, you know, the apartment in when I was in New York. Ai back.
it’s just stressing me out. I need to get on stage, have a good time, have some drinks. I need to, like, just whatever. He goes, here’s what you do, man. You’re a good looking guy. And I was like, yeah. I don’t think I’m gonna get advice from Patrice. You know?
This would be great. He goes, you’re a good looking guy, man. Bring another girl home. Right.
He, like, goes, I’ve seen the way these girls look at you around there. You find one of these bitches. You have a good time. Don’t worry about what’s back at the apartment. Then when the time comes, bring her back bring her back to your, apartment and say, yo, this is me. This is you know, you gotta deal with this shit. And if you ain’t and I was like, Patrice Patrice, you’re my hero. I love you. Terrible advice.
You’re gonna get me murdered.
You’re gonna get murdered.
Also, that’s just not the type of women I hang out with. They’re not gonna be fine with that.
Yeah. That’s a very specific type of woman. I could Who are probably gonna murder you. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah. Ai ticking on that. Exactly. Ai I just
a friend of mine that said that he was gonna he he I talked to my girlfriend and doing a threesome. And if I had the same exact feeling as someone saying to me, Hey, I started making my own bombs.
Right. You go, Don’t do it. This is the track. You’re not gonna die. Yeah, exactly. But I think that that’s what you should think when you hear your heroes or Bert tell you anything. Just just just know their lives are different than yours.
Yeah. There’s some certain one a kind people that you just gotta sai, like, we not everybody can do that. Yeah. Like, Bert went and got a liver screen and cancer. I was he’s fine. Yeah. He’s fine.
He can do it. He’s fine. He is not a machine. He get he goes he gets
his health checked, and his health is fine. He’s 50 years old.
He’s still going hard. How old is Bert now? He’s gotta be
deep into his forties. But Bert will be ai, don’t quit drinking. Have a good time. And then some guy’s like, I’m hitting my wife again, dude. This boozes.
He was probably drunk when he said that. You know, like, he probably got that he probably took some time off and then had a drink. Ai. Feeling good. I wanna tweet some advice. Yeah.
It was one of those things. Because I love him. And and some people and a lot of the comments were like, oh, another comedian not understanding another comedian. I was just I was like, no. It’s not that Ai love Bert. If you knew our relationship, you’d get it. Like, I where we’re good.
I just want people to know if you do have a problem, it’s okay to quit. You know? Yeah. You don’t
have to Especially you sai a person who quit. Yeah.
I was just saying, hey, you know, this is a sensitive subject for some people. It is. Yeah.
Because some look. I have certain friends that, have recovered from alcoholism. And this one buddy that I had that used to drink, he would drink and then his eyes would glaze over like a shark’s.
Like the pupils would be gone and he wasn’t there anymore. Like, oh, Bob’s gone. Now this is fucking drunk Bob. Drunk Bob, totally different human being. Yeah. For sure. He would blackout all the time, not remember things, ai, you don’t remember what you did? Like, you didn’t remember anything?
I was that guy. I would be fun fun fun till it wasn’t fun.
Dude, I think it’s a genetic thing. Yeah. Ai meh, I I ram guessing, but I I’ve never had that. Yeah. So I’ve gotta assume that it’s a genetic I’ve gotten fucked up before.
I’ve gotten really drunk. I’ve never, like, I need to get drunk. I’ve never been, like, I need to get drunk. But I I have friends that
So there’s a thing. Yeah. One gear? One gear.
If we’re gonna smoke weed, I smoke all the weed. And you know what I’m saying? If we’re if we’re If ai
a coke, you’re going to Tijuana.
Right. Yeah. I meh, I think I’m King Coke guy, you know. Why do one Viagra when I can do 6 Viagra’s? You know? Like, I just don’t have a and and that’s why I also, like, it works to my benefit. You know? The first time I said I’m gonna do stand up, I never stopped. Like, I was up there. I was obsessed.
Did you ever get hit in the head real hard?
Yeah. I played a lot of, like, sports growing up. So, yeah, I got hit. I’ve had 2 really serious concussions where I went to the hospital. Yeah. That was that’s it? Yes. Oh, interesting. Yes. Ai 2 big ones.
So I lost I mean, I’m not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but I do know that that is one of the side effects of brain injury is that you you lose impulse control. Interesting.
Yeah. I’ve got no governor, which works good. You know? It works good for some things. Ai, you know, like I said, when I’m hanging out with a girl, like, I’m best boyfriend ever. I’m king, you know, but and then it’s gotta be extremely not.
You know, there’s kinda these extremes. Yeah.
You gotta get to know someone. If you’re diving in with someone for 24 hours, 48 hours and you just met ai, like, the chances of you guys jiving perfectly are not
get lucky, you find the girl of your dreams and then, hey, we’ve been together. We we hung out together for 2 days in a row and then, fuck, we’re married 6 months later and we live happily ever after. That’s real. That can happen. I’ve met people like that.
It can happen, but generally Right. First of all, when you meet someone, you’re barely meeting them. You’re meeting the thing that they put on when they want someone to like them.
It’s performative a little for sure.
I ai say to young guys, try to become the person you pretend to be when you’re trying to get laid.
Try to be Become the person that you’re pretending to be when you’re trying to get laid.
And just be that person, and you never have to pretend.
I love that. I I I believe that outside of the idea of relationships. So, like, I would say, like, and I probably heard this somewhere, read it somewhere, but, like, the idea of, like, you can be like your heroes. Yes. You know, what, like, what do you like about the person you say you like? Right. They’re kind. Okay. So just be kind. That’s what people ai. You know?
Or, oh, I like that guy because he’s down to earth. Yes. So then you should try to be down to
You know, it’s very so you just you, you should be like the people, you know, and you can also have anti heroes. Me and my parents have a very tumultuous relationship, and so that’s a positive for me because I’m going, I don’t wanna be like that Yes. Or that quality that I don’t wanna be like.
it was always lazy people. I I had a, like, a severe disdain for lazy people, like, an aggressive disdain. I’d be angry at people if they’re lazy when I was a young man. It’s because I was so scared of being lazy. I was I love that. I was so scared of being a loser that I if I saw any laziness in people, I meh angry.
Which is weird because you love pot. Yeah. But that it’s a big ai guys are just they’re happy with their laziness.
I know. You’re the opposite. You’re ai the most productive pothead I’ve ever known.
It’s not a to me, it doesn’t slow me down. It makes me think more. And when I think more, I think about all the shit I need to get done. And I think about, like, how I’ll feel if I don’t accomplish what I wanna accomplish. Like, if I don’t put in the work Yeah. Ai I’ll start freaking out.
What’s your exact strand? Because that’s the one everyone needs. I don’t know. Whatever the strand is you’re doing.
I like sativas over indicas, but I don’t like to get super duper high. Yeah. I just I know. It’s like drunk. It’s like Ai like 2 drinks. Nice. Two drinks and I go on stage. I’m the life of the party.
We’re all friends. I lose a lot.
What’s up? Four drinks, and I’m, like, what did I just talk about 5 minutes ago? Make sure I don’t repeat my jokes, you know. Make sure I don’t bring up something that I’m not sure where it goes yet, you know. Like, I didn’t I didn’t look at my nose before
on stage, like, I can’t. Four drinks are too much.
Or you go, I’ll scrap these first four parts of the pit and just do this joke, and you’re ai, why’d you scrap those? I don’t know. I’m drunk. I just jumped right to that part.
Pop makes me really consider all the things I’m not doing. It makes me call friends and check-in on them.
It makes, yeah, it makes me, like, way more, like, kind and compassionate and friendly. I wanna hug people.
Mushrooms does that for me.
Yeah. That one was, like, a life changing thing for me. Yeah. Because I was, like, I I don’t know. I’m trying to explain something scientific that I don’t know nothing about. But if I had to describe how it felt, it felt like it connected things for meh. Where I was like, oh, I need to be a little bit more I need to work on this, or I need to check-in with so and so or I need to let go of that.
Mhmm. And that was all because of, I kinda came back a different guy after mushrooms.
Well, I think one of the primary things that it does is it dissolves your ego, and the ego, I think, is a giant cage that we all live in. And you can kinda see the world from outside the cage, but the ego is there protecting you from reality sometimes. The ego is there protecting you from your understanding of your own mistakes, which we all have and some some people bullshit themselves and but they keep it in the back of their head.
The ego is what’s doing all that for you and it’s doing that as ai this little shield, this little cage that you put in that allows you to move through the world. Mhmm. And mushrooms just takes that down. And then you just get to see the world for what it really is and see you for where you really are arya then see ai some of the behaviors that you always regret about yourself or you guys why am I doing that?
Ai what is that? And then you can kinda see the the roots of it all or and you see the cause and effect of interactions with people. I remember one time I had a psychedelic experience and, I was closing my eyes and I saw positive thoughts as a different pattern. Like Sai had a negative thought and the pattern turned ai dark and then I had a positive thought, oh, no, no, don’t think negative and it went ai flowered open.
These beautiful patterns and then it was like the thing, like the mushroom was telling me that’s the way to go.
Right. That’s the way to go. That perception.
Yeah. You can lean into negativity if you want. You sana be a ai.
out there. Yeah. But there’s people out there that are doing that.
They’re filled with anxiety. It’s wrecking their ai, dude. Just nice.
People love being wronged.
They do. It’s such a treat for them to hold on to their wrong how the things they’ve been wronged and the and so, like, that’s sai such a great way to describe that. Because, really, the my failures and my flaws and the things I wanna work on and all that stuff are the connection.
Like, that’s when like, when I was able to go, man, I think I really have a problem here, and I need I need some help. People were excited to help meh. Right. Because it gave them a chance to help and serve and connect. Yeah. Yeah.
And so as opposed to me thinking I needed to pretend I didn’t have a problem or they wouldn’t be my friends, it made them so much better friends knowing, like, oh, we can help them.
sai and that’s just I keep using sobriety as an example, but just in general, the connection is that.
You know? Connections everything. Like, real connection with people is everything. And that you gotta have good people around you. Like, this whole idea of being ai, I speak, cool. Some people can’t be nice. They’re surrounded by assholes. They’re surrounded by people that are fucking with them and taking from them and ruining their life and interjecting in their ai, and they’re just like,
have to stand up for themselves.
But you’ve gotta at least aspire to get into a better situation in life surround yourself somehow. There’s a way.
You’ve done it. Surround yourself with nice people. 100%.
It can be done. Yeah. It can be done. Ai a group. Find a friend. Find a church. Find a
And also Whatever. That person so that you attract those people. Again, ai, try figure it out.
I was describing my buddy Chris the other day ai like what I think the problem is, with the kinda, like, modern ai. Sai I know that’s kinda vague, but it’s ai I see I’ve always seen my life as, like, I got dealt a card of hands. You know? Some of those cards real good and some of the cards not good, but that’s the hand I was dealt. Right. And we’ve all been dealt some hand of cards.
A lot of people bad ones. Some people really good ones. It would just been dealt a hand. And I I thought to myself, how can I play these cards? I didn’t start bitching about the rules of poker. Like, I did I didn’t start going, hey, dealer. Let’s maybe we should change the whole board. Like, no.
I just all I can do is play ai hand. Right. Yeah. And I think and I I think that, like, that’s kind of how I’m viewing modern times where people would rather complain about the rules of poker instead of just playing their hands the best way they could.
Well, it’s outcasts for the first time meh collectively as a group and then act like bullies.
So they act like people have acted to them. Like, the most you know, it’s that old expression, hurt people hurt people. Right? So the nastiest, meanest people ai, I find, other than, like, white radical, white supremacists, Nazis and shah. What just you’re talking about social issues, the the meanest people are the left wing people for whatever reason.
And this is not to say there’s not some cunts out there that are right wing people. There’s a ton of them.
But I just it’s commonplace for people who consider themselves good, kind people to say things like punch a Nazi.
And then they get to define what a Nazi is and has nothing to do with the ai.
Nothing to do with hating Jews. You know, you
just be voted Republican. Oh, you’re a fascist. Right. Okay. What you tell meh, first of all, what does that mean? Yeah. You tell me what that means. Tell me what that word define that word. You throw that word around so often. Yeah. And there’s a word that there’s a lot of there’s a lot of definitions of that word, right wing, you know, authoritarian government, all that stuff.
But, also, like, forcing people to behave and think in a certain way. Hate about religion.
Yeah. And they also they hate religion because religious people tell them what to think and do. Religion. And then they do a religious act of being, like, a liberal going, if you don’t think like me, you must be bad. A 100%. Racism’s their devil, and it’s okay to hate the devil,
and so they try to hate it. Do you know who Marc Andreessen is? Mm-mm. He’s a brilliant, venture capitalist, like, super genius guy and been on my podcast a couple ai. He broke the whole woke thing down as a religion and, like, explained how you can get excommunicated
And cast out, and that’s and people are fearful of that, so they stay inside the lines. Yeah. There’s a doctrine they all follow.
They’re using race. Because guess what? Who would wanna be punches with the racists?
It’s also gender. It’s also, like, stupid shit. Like, you could be non ai. If you’re a white man, you got nowhere to go. Hey. I can’t be I can’t even be, like Right. Fucked with. Like, nothing no one’s discriminating against me. You could become non ai. Sure.
You can still fuck girls.
You just have to say you’re they them.
Well, for, like, in my ex like, for what I’ve like, in my observation, like, the left used to be really, like, the cool the progressive side, the nice side, the good side. Whereas to now, like, I’m like, listen to yourselves. You don’t like rich people. Right? You’re mad at everyone wealthy. You’re mad at the super wealthy. You hate, gym bros.
You hate ram guys. You hate, straight white guys. You hate boomers. You’re mad at your grandparents. You you seem to not like a lot of people
Yeah. For being the most sai objective ai. Just completely generalizing.
Right. Also, where’s our empathy? Right. I think what if I ever met, like, a crazy right wing, which I never have met any of these Nazis they’re talking about, but if I did meet 1, I believe that I could have some empathy for them and some sympathy and go, they’re just dumb.
Yeah. They’re not evil. They’re just dumb and they sai be short. They can be, like, convinced otherwise.
They’re also they’re also programmed. Right? It’s generally they’re programmed by the people around them. Yeah. Yeah.
But where’s our empathy? I watched this documentary on Netflix. It was about, like, the KKK. And the woman who made the documentary was, like, a kind of a cute Muslim girl, and she, like, interviewed actual white nationalists and and KKK members. And she brings them into this thing. And what I learned from that documentary, what I got from it was that, like, oh, they don’t even really believe this.
They just wanted a group. They wanted a daddy. They wanted someone to, like so they they they thought to themselves, I can hate black people. I mean, if, if they’re over there, I don’t ever have to confront 1, and I don’t ever have to be on and then when they we will meet a black guy, they’ll go, well, not you.
We’re talking about the idea. They’re not even talking about that actual person. And the girl in the documentary goes, well, you know that you let me in, and you’ve been very nice to meh, and I’m a Muslim woman. And the ai like, well, not you. We’re talking about yeah. Yeah. So it’s because they just wanted a group like you.
They They just wanted a group like like black gang members or Hispanic Meh ai whatever these groups arya. Whatever your little ESPN
group is, whatever your baseball team is. League.
They need a group. They need a group. And their group was like, I can hate some people I’ve never seen before.
Yeah. That’s why it’s so dangerous, like, groups, like, where where they can get entrapped because, the, the governor Whitmer case, do you know that case?
These guys conspired to to kidnap the governor of Michigan?
Yeah. And, there’s 14 people involved. 12 of them were FBI informants. Oh. Yeah. I mean So he got these 2 dudes who just wanted to be in a group.
Hey, man. We’re gonna kidnap them. We’re gonna take over the government. Fuck it.
That’s hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. They just wanted some shit. Yeah.
I’m in. I’m in. What time? I didn’t get that.
They probably had a name for their gang. Oh. They were cool. They called they had a group chat. Probably felt real cool.
Yeah. Chat about the gang. Sana make some change.
Yeah. We’re getting a duct tape.
Meanwhile, these 2 guys thought they were cosplaying, and then they got arrested.
Like, I don’t know. I didn’t really plan on doing it. I know. It wasn’t even my idea. It’s tricky. Another problem I’ve noticed too, like, along these lines is, like, let’s say we’re in a group. Let’s say we have some group, and then we find out one of the guys in our group did a bad thing. But we got we gotta pay our bills.
Ai? We got a group, and, also, we do we do have a ton of camaraderie. So a bad thing groups like to do is cover up for that person.
So, like, it’s not like every Catholic priest I’ve heard all your terrible bits at the comedy clubs about the Catholic priests from every comic I know. It’s not like all the ones were fine with sexually molesting children. It’s just that there were a lot that did, and the church thought this is not gonna look good for us. Let’s cover this up. It happens in the military.
Sometimes there’s some bad guys in the military, and they and instead of like, they they don’t want people to think if you send your daughters to the military, bad things are gonna happen. So they kind of internally deal with it. You know? And that’s a bad thing that groups do is that even in our own government goes, alright.
Let’s find a way to cover that up instead of dealing with this. Because if we just deal with it, it’s gonna reflect poorly on the group.
What are we gonna do this obscene client list?
Oh, it’s okay. Yeah. Let’s
Is it really helping the world? Deal. Does mister Gates need this kind of attention? Exactly. He’s out there trying to cure polio. Leave
him alone. Exactly. So you start to think, let’s protect the group. Right. And we do it in all these ways. I think that that’s happened with the LGBTQ plus whatever. I think a lot of gay people are waking up and going, why did we let the trans people in this group? They’re making us look terrible.
Well, lesbians are having a real problem with it because there’s a lot of trans men who ai as lesbian Yes. Or trans women. They say they’re a lesbian, and they get on lesbian apps. And these girls are ai, I’m looking for a vagina.
And now they’re waking up going, ah, maybe this maybe the trans struggle was different than the gay struggle, but we’ve let them in the group. And now Well,
a lot of gay guys think that the movement is homophobic because you’re telling a young gay guy, no. You’re a woman. You’re actually a woman. Well, it’s one of those things that you gotta say some people, it must be true because it’s always been a thing. Like, to to have real gender dysphoria, to be in your mind Mhmm. Feel like a woman has always been a thing even if you’re a guy.
There’s more effeminate women that feel like women. So it’s ai that’s real, but also when you encourage that and you reward people socially for that, and then you have pride day at kindergarten, and you’re you’re talking about, like, sexual orientation people. They’re nowhere near puberty, which is really crazy. And then you start, like, having people that become ram, all of a sudden they’re amazing.
they were just really mediocre before, like Bruce Jenner. Like, he was the goof of the Kardashian show. First of all, it makes no sense. No one’s accomplished shit. This motherfucker was on the cover of Weebie. Star. He was a star. He was a fucking gold medalist in the decathlon, the goddamn Olympics. Yeah.
national hero. Stud. Yeah.
He was a stud. Yeah. And meanwhile, he’s on this show with these influencers. Mhmm. And he’s just getting nothing. Right. He’s just mocked. He’s ai,
Openly mocked. He becomes a woman. He’s woman of the year in 6 months. Immediately. Yeah.
Meh. 6 months, he took over the fucking game. He’s a he’s a winner. It’s like a Chinese autistic kid coming into your math class and fucking up the curve. How do they get there?
What’s going on here? This guy’s a j he’s got
a 287 IQ. This is not fair.
He just came in and took over.
everyone loved him until he started saying he was voting for Trump.
Which was hilarious. Like, people are saying it’s okay to misgender her. Mhmm. This person, call him Caitlyn, call her Caitlyn Yeah. Whatever, doesn’t seem to care. Right. Like, is fine with you deadnaming meh.
you ai? This is who she is now. Right. She’s comfortable in her own sai, 60 years old, out of the closet, the whole deal. Yay. But people are I saw this thing online where someone was saying it’s okay to misgender Caitlyn Jenner because she voted for Trump. So okay. So transphobia is okay if someone differs with you politically.
It’s crazy. Like, what are you doing? I don’t know.
Ai not being compassionate. You’re not being kind. All these things that you said is only with total compliance are you willing to give people this grace. You must have total compliance to our ideology Yep. Or you’re cast out of the kingdom.
It’s a leverage of power. Even if you’re a trans woman,
which is, like, at the top of the oppression list, they’re above regular Cannibal. Poor black people, poor Mexicans, like, poor immigrants. Trans people
is a top of them. They’re attacking their own. They’re, like, literally, like, cannibalists just gone, like, this one, but it didn’t fall in line. Didn’t fall in line. Throw them out. Yeah. So that’s the word. I also think it’s, like, ai a big overcorrection. I think I think humans are, like, guilty of always overcorrecting.
So it’s ai Yes. We were racist Yes. Historically. I I could go on about that for hours, but, like, let’s say that’s the idea that we’re agreeing with. Historically, America was racist. So now the overcorrection is anything that is racist must be don’t ever even accuse a person of color of something wrong because Right.
Because we have to so overcorrect, and we have to say how many black friends we have, and say how cool black things are, and don’t say that, their hair is different because that that that would be a racist thing.
Or, oh, we used to be homophobic. So now if a guy sucks a dick, let’s give him a parade. Let’s put
Celebrate hell. Exactly. Let’s meh
him in charge of It’s like the fucking guy in the dress who’s in charge of nuclear energy
dick. Stealing women’s clothes.
Yeah. Just let him suck dick. We didn’t need him to be in power.
Is not exceptional just because they wear a dress. That’s crazy. That’s a nutty person.
You’re not virtuous because ai, and that’s and, like, I think that there’s a big difference between just letting someone live their life and not and being kind to them in society and not treating them different and giving them all the same rights as opposed to celebrating it.
I think you’re absolutely right. It’s just an extreme overcorrection. What
to do is just let people be themselves Right. And figure out who that is. But what what is weird is when it becomes encouraged, and so then you get, like, with girls in particular. It’s they’re very vulnerable. Abigail Ai wrote a book about this, but how many girls that are on the spectrum get convinced that they’re trans. Yeah.
And then the problem is there’s some states that allow you, I think if you’re 15, you can go and get, puberty blockers or, at the very least, you can get testosterone. I know you can do that. Do you know that, like, planned parenthood is like the number one prescriber of testosterone? Sai if that’s true.
But I think planned parenthood prescribes more testosterone than anybody, which is really crazy if that’s true.
Because I think in some places, they help people with gender transition. So and if you’re a girl in some states, you don’t even have to be an adult. You can go to them and you don’t have the permission of your parents. Right. And if you I don’t know who you have to consult with or what you have to do, but I’ve heard it’s alarmingly easy. Yeah.
And then now you’re on testosterone. And one of the things that testosterone does is alleviates anxiety. Makes you feel stronger. You feel, like, more tyler. You’re more alive like this. This is what I was missing. Right. I was missing testosterone. It’s like, no. You weren’t. No. No. You weren’t.
That’s not a natural part of your body. You just added something, and now you feel way different, but now you’re gonna change your voice. And if you grow out of this and if this is just a phase, well, now you’ve fucked up your ai, and you can’t ever have children.
And there’s a bunch of big ladies out there. The detransitioners, they’re stuck with deep voices for their whole lives. They’re stuck with masculine features. They’ve cut their breasts off. Ai got in trouble
for posting. For the adults. I got in trouble for posting this. Is that
true about Planned Parenthood?
Have you been sued? No. Anybody ever sued?
I see one article, but I don’t know if this is, legit. What
Oh, it says that, but I’m trying
know what the it’s the Dallas Express. It doesn’t seem like That’s
the number one newspaper on the universe.
It’s gotta be expressed. I was everyone’s reading that.
Express. Planned paired among arya suppliers of testosterone.
there. Meh. Let’s let’s see
what the numbers are. Do they say numbers? Ai didn’t even go
more than ai. Fucking expression gender affirming care freaks me out, man.
I got trouble for posting this. I said, if genitals don’t define gender, how does removing them affirm it? Oh, that’s fucking
right now. Ai, if Yeah. Like That’s really crazy. You said, like, I don’t need to have a vagina to be a woman, then why do I need to remove my penis to be a woman?
Woah. Back that up again. The number of gender affirming hormone therapy visits to planned parenthood tripled between 2021 and 2023 Mhmm. Growing from 800 visits per year to more than 2,500. That’s crazy. That shows you that it’s a social contagion, and that’s Abigail Shrier’s position on it.
And it’s a very compassionate, kind position.
And it’s about the future of children and them making decisions when they’re very impressionable. And, boy, do people attack her. They removed her from bookstores. They called her transphobic just for literally talking about facts and statistics and the numbers have increased and the psychological effect. Like, what’s going on with them psychologically?
Like, why are they being led? Who are these what is the the what what is the actual odds that ai friends all become trans?
It’s preposterous. It’s preposterous. Absolutely. Yeah. It’s
But then again, it is also sai real thing. Like, there’s always been people that have felt like they should have been a woman. And if you’re a grown adult and you wanna make that decision, yeah, you do whatever you wanna do.
I’ve met trans people that say they are very happy with what they’ve done. Yeah. That’s great. I guess. But you gotta know what the fuck that is.
And when you’re 13, you don’t. Yeah. I don’t know if I’d encourage it even in an adult. I know that the correct statement for me right now would be, like, just leave our kids alone. But I think that maybe Ai don’t even wanna encourage adults. I we just gotta pursue your own things, and I think that’s beautiful. And I think that’s what our country’s about.
Find a dude who doesn’t care about the dick. Exactly. If you’re a trans woman, find a dude who actually ai Jim Norton.
Oh, yeah. Exactly. You can find a Jim Norton. You could have ai him some leopardy. Yeah. Ai. I mean,
that’s what happened with Jim. Yeah. He’s got a trans woman for a wife. He’s happy. He talks about the dick.
You know what’s crazy about the Jim Norton thing? Is, that, like, you know, he’s with these tough crowd guys. He’s with all my heroes. I looked up Jim Norton my whole life. I love Jim Norton. I’m a fan. And then they go, you know, he’s, married to a trans woman. And I was like, the fuck? And every and and everyone’s ai, oh, you, Jeff, and your trans thing. I was like, no.
If I know Jim Norton, he wouldn’t have gotten married. That’s really what I was shocked about. The the institution of marriage he believes in? That’s ridiculous. This is Jim Norton.
That’s the over correction. You wanna show this is really your wife? You’re gonna marry her. Right. Whereas all the girlfriends, all the girls with they’re a little stinky vaginas.
Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. You ain’t getting married.
You’re telling anyone. You can’t take my last name. Fuck off. Yeah. Exactly. I’m waiting for a dick. Yeah. It’s very crazy, man. That’s the overcorrection.
But you wouldn’t encourage someone, and I know that I’m gonna take some hits for this. But you wouldn’t encourage someone who believed that they were that their body was fat if it wasn’t healthily you know, like, with an eating disorder, and they said Joe, but
Carlson said that. You don’t you don’t say, oh, you are fat.
Yeah, Joe. You don’t, Joe, but I believe I should be and you go, you’re dying, dude.
Right. Or it’s no. He what he said it about was anorexics. Like, you would never tell tyler an anorexic Right. Oh, you are fat.
And that’s real. Right. People are really out there believing. They look in the mirror. They’re a skeleton. Right. But they look in the mirror and they go, I’m gross. I’m fat. Exactly. You you wouldn’t encourage it.
You would never encourage that.
it. There’s something wrong.
Correct. You would treat it. I think
the other problem is that the whole way they do it, you can’t orgasm ever again.
Okay? And you don’t really have a vagina. You have this hole. Right? And then you have to keep that hole dilated. You have to stick something inside it. I think it’s like lip jobs. Like, don’t get the early ones. Right. Wait till they get this down. Don’t let people experiment on you by splicing your dick open like a hot dog.
Wait for the ai gene therapy.
Yeah. Because I firmly believe it might not be in our lifetime, but if maybe in our children or our grandchildren’s lifetime, gene editing will get to a place where they will be able to turn you into whatever the fuck you want. Right. And it’s probably gonna be a nightmare because every guy’s gonna look like Thor, and every woman’s gonna look like a prime Jennifer Lopez.
It’s ai there’s not gonna be any variations. Everyone’s gonna be super hot.
There’s no you’re not gonna appreciate hot people.
Yeah. You will big whoop.
Yeah. Because, like, you know, when you when a hot woman walks in a room and there’s no other hot woman, everybody’s
Look what I got. Look what’s whoop. Look at
she look like Megan? Right? But if everybody looks like that, it’s gonna be commonplace. And I think we’re gonna get to a place where every man’s gonna look like the Hulk. It’s just gonna be just giant dudes.
A 100%. They’re gonna be the 1st to sign up for that.
Fucking dudes that go to the coffee shop and sit there with their legs crossed like this
Do. They’re fucking their shoulders slump. They’re gonna look like The Rock.
They’re all gonna be beasts.
Dude, you know what’s interesting about the, like, comic book, world? All the guys who, like, they read comics, and it’s Thor. Right? He’s got shoulders like you and biceps like you. He’s Spider Man. They’re reading Hulk. The Hulk. All these dudes that are just fantastic, fantastic heroes that can give us justice and beat your enemies. Batman.
But then if they see you at the coffee shop, we go, look at this douchebag. You go, what? I look like your comic books. Like, if Joe Rogan walked in, they should be going, holy shit. How does he look like that? I wanna look like that.
Isn’t it also weird that it’s ai the feeblest men Oh, yeah. That really love the super powerful men in these fantasy, but but not real life.
But they don’t wanna just work out to look like them. They because that’s
But just do it. Be like your heroes. I go in there and they beg on me. Meh. Exactly.
They look at me weird. Yeah. That’s part of it.
It’s so hard if you’re, like, scrawny and you go to a gym for the first time. It’s so disheartening.
And there’s all these girls with those fucking yoga pants on that you might as well be a pile of shit to them.
Well There’s all these big jack guys doing squats. That’s motivation, baby. If you spot me. You’ll spot you. It’s like it’s Yeah. Sai think you’re sitting there with
your little fucking £10 dumbbells. Ai arms. Yeah. And it takes so long ai get
strong. Slamming weights. You guys love to slam weights.
So long, get strong. It takes forever. So many reps. Oh, you gotta keep doing it or you shrink. Yeah.
Yeah. You gotta come back tomorrow? Yeah. They go, oh, ai gotta do this again tomorrow?
It’s so hard that most people just wanna dismiss it.
If you could do it on a pill, you would all I
it to anybody. Can if I could give you a pill and that pill would give you more energy throughout the day, you could pick up anything. You carry things around. You never have to worry about yourself physically. Yeah. You’re you’re stronger than most people you meet. You know how to fight.
Wouldn’t wouldn’t you take that pill? Yeah. Well, you can do that pill, stupid. It’s called hard work.
Absolutely. That’s all it is. That’s so true. Yeah.
And it’ll change everything for you. It’ll change everything for you.
You know how it’s boring to take all those vitamins? Take the vitamins, you fucking retard.
We don’t know how to do that. Ai gotta work at Chipotle.
You’ve got enough protein and enough fat. Your fucking car is
a race car. But y’all, I don’t have this free time. I have a family, and I Everyone
is free time. You just choose to do it with other things. Just to sit there with your fucking phone out Yep. Scrolling through Instagram and checking your likes and arguing with people on Twitter.
Yeah. That’s how I feel like. It was like you got plenty of time to So much time. Go to McDonald’s. You got time to There’s so much time. Has that great quote where he’s ai he says he’s this guy said to me, oh, the gym meh too exciting. He goes, you got a motherfucking floor where you live? You got a ground where where you’re at? Then work out, motherfucker.
And I love that kind of mentality of, like, you could do you could do a whole workout right there.
All you need is a chin up bar. That’s the only and you don’t even need that. You can get those things that hang on your door. You don’t even have to get, like, a permanent shah. They have good chin up bars now that, like, attached to your door ram, and they’re sana. And they hold you in place. You screw them in. They’re they’re legit. And all you need is that and push ups, body weight squats, sit ups.
There’s a bunch of different yoga exercises
you sana do. You can pick up a rock, free rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It’s not a cool kettlebell with a monkey hate on it, but, you know, you could rocks are heavy.
Rocks are awkward. Tree branch?
I I know Sandbags. 7,000 parks by my house that have a bar that you wouldn’t have to buy on Amazon. You could just go hang from it.
Yeah. Yeah. Those are always good. Yeah. Monkey bars, those are great.
That’s the number one way kids break their fucking arms too.
Yeah. My daughter broke her arm on a monkey bar. I broke my arm in a monkey bar. Really?
At school? Like, she broke vatsal at school? At school. At park.
Ai school. And at this that school, I was like, boy, that monkey bar is really high off the ground. Like, these fucking
kids are 7. Like, this is crazy. I like that though.
It’s she’s a little reckless.
Yeah. Well, that’s what it is. All these kids are just trying to have fun, but they don’t understand their limitations yet. That’s why it’s dangerous to have them in a environment like that. Mhmm. Because they’ve you know, but that’s how you learn. So when we were kids, they had those domes
Ai inside. Kids were always ai
to get cushions. There’s foots in it, but they fall this sai, so
just They’re leaking. Rip apart. Those fucking things.
What’s the dome one? We had a we had an actual, like, circular one that was little triangles.
Yeah. We had one of those too, and there was but there was one that was, like, it was like a half a circle.
dome with all these monkey bars inside of it and shit.
Uh-oh. Yeah. Ai that’s the one I had. Yeah. We had that. Yeah. Yeah. And there there would always be, like, ai bar missing sometimes, like, on the thing. You’d be like, what happened here?
Edges and fucking screws sticking out of it. Yeah. But kids always bang their head. I bang my head a 100 times on those fucking
It also forces creativity too because you’re ai you know, there’s no iPad there. There’s no, like, a video there’s no candy crush. So you had to be like, alright. This is our igloo that we’re gonna protect.
doesn’t Ai wonder if that’s good. Everybody wants to, like, look back to the days when everyone was bored and say and, like, romantically, yeah. When you make your own fun, I’m ai, I think I’ve had a video game. It would’ve been way more fun.
Well, we had both. I had the nineties, so we had both. Like, when I was a kid, we would play video games all night. But during the day, there was something fun about, wrestling. You know, ai, the human part of, you know, ai? So we really were making up things with guns and just, like, shooting each other and Sai you’re
Before online media or online Oh, yeah.
Social media. Online playing video games either. It was just me versus my buddy.
I think the social media thing is the craziest part of it. I think kids are just first of all, they’re weirdly connected because they all get on Snapchat, and then they have a Sai meh
So they know where all their friends are at any given time. Yeah. And and sai they’re they’re constantly, like, paying attention to that and and finding each other, and they go in groups, and they go to this party. And, oh, they’re they’re at this party. Let’s go to that party.
See them on the masks. They’re adults. You just described adults. There’s not even kids anymore.
They’re little kids that are, like, traveling around with their friends with phones, and they only talk through text messages.
Yeah. But Which sucks. Fucking weird. It sucks. A weird new life. They still do like kids today, they still do physical things. They just still do sports. You know? But when we were kids, the thing about not having any other influences, especially, like, social media influences, you didn’t really aspire to be exactly like other people. You know?
It’s like there was peep there was groups of people that, you know, you gravitated towards being a jock. You gravitated towards being an artist. You but you didn’t try to, like, completely copy whatever trend is going on. Nowadays, kids are they leave their fucking stupid label and their their Nikes.
Like, what is that? What is that? Where it’s supposed to be cool to keep your fucking label on your in
all the tag. It’s ai, look. It’s a limited edition. It’s ai, it’s not. I made Daniel’s just cut it off. Oh, that’s hilarious.
The knife out. I go, cut that off. Oh my god. Are you a sheep? Are you a little sheep? You got a fucking tag on the Nikes?
you’re right. I go, I’m right.
I love that. Ai right. Yeah.
I love that. If everyone knows
there sai a stupid white label or whatever it is.
It’s called an off white. Yeah. What it is? That it has that red tag on it. Yeah. Stupid. Fucking nice. Nice, man. I love that. Cut it off right in the green room. Cut it off. Daddy moment for him. Ai give him a knife. You give ai you said, hey.
dad here. You need to This is nonsense. You are not doing this.
You’re not gonna have a propeller on your hat.
Keep a sticker on your Take that propeller off your fucking hat. Grow up. Yeah. You don’t have to
have that label. When I was a kid, dudes would have labels on their hats. I
They buy new vatsal, and they leave the tag.
Or the sticker on the bill is one of my biggest pet peeves.
The sticker on the bill is stupid. Take that sticker off.
Yeah. I, I think the one thing that I do look backwards and and and think about and this is a mushroom thought for sure. This came to me, you know, whereas, like, I would say my mom would go, why do you need these expensive shoes for school? And I didn’t have the intelligence at the time to explain it to her now, but now I look back and I go, I I wish I would have said, mom, my whole social structure is based on this because I don’t have the Internet, which would later come out.
I don’t have these things. When at least in the ai, in the in the late eighties when I was growing up, Amber Shoemaker was the hottest girl at our school, which meant Amber Shoemaker’s the hottest woman in our universe. I didn’t go online and go, well, Amber’s not I didn’t have anyone else. That’s the hottest girl.
what I’m saying? The coolest guy in our school, Anthony Medina, was the coolest guy in the world because that’s our world.
Right. Whereas kids now could go, who gives a shit about Anthony Medina? Right. Ai following LeBron, and I’m fight so, like, you we had our own little realities. You know? So it’s ai, I didn’t give a shit about the, the Bulls necessarily, but if Mike Jensen from my school said the Bulls are cool, I like the Bulls. Right.
I didn’t have anywhere to escape to. I need to do what I sana, and I think even before me was probably even better than that. I think, like, when cowboys roamed the earth, that might ai been number 1. No. No. No. No. You don’t think so? Because here’s why hear me out.
That cat let’s say we’re cowboys. Right? We’re on the Ridgeline. Alright. But we gotta brush the horses. We gotta do our shit. Right. Right. Right. We’re eating our can.
We see all these twinkling lights out there, and we go we got a picture of our lady in our wallet. Like, oh, man. Sai can’t wait to get home to her, you know, say some dirty things about her. And then I, would eat my beans, and then I’d sai, I wonder what everyone’s doing out there. I would just wonder.
Yeah. That is a really cute version of what it meant like to be a cowboy. Here’s what it really was like. You would stay up be and I would sleep because we don’t want anybody raping and killing us in the middle of the night because the Indians have been following us for miles, and we don’t know they’ve been following us.
And we’re too stupid reversed, by the way.
We’re not stupid. To cold camp. Okay? So we started a fire, which makes you really easy to speak.
And they just wait till that fire starts
getting dim and they hear snoring, and they come in and they cut you up and they fuck you and they do whatever they want to
ai. Awake and Well, I mean Slaughter them.
7 or 8 of them. And, you know, back in the Musket days
There’s a lot of reloading time.
Yeah. Yeah. I get one of them.
Yeah. Yeah. That’s why the Comanches dominated this area because they they were using single shah guns.
But you know that’s a race system. They were just sitting here peacefully.
The Comanches, they would not. The Comanches had multiple arrows on their fingers, so they’d keep, like, 4 or 5 arrows. And they would shoot 1 and then shoot another one and shoot another one. They were just fucking these dudes up. I bet it. The only thing that saved this entire state, the only reason why people were able to conquer was the Colt pistol. Right.
When they figured out how to make a pistol with, like, a chamber, it was Colt. Right? Wasn’t it?
I think it was Colt. So they they developed the the the the believe this or not, at the time, the military didn’t want. Really? They’re like, what are we doing with these 6 shots? We got 1 shot. Really? Good enough. Yeah.
I didn’t know. Couldn’t sell them.
That’s ridiculous. Sold them to the Texas Rangers.
Smith, that guy who’s out in the hallway, that ram, that’s why he’s there. That’s that’s the original Texas Ranger.
That guy was Wouldn’t they want more bullets quicker, accessibly?
Like, that’s because it’s the government. They’re always they’re always been retarded.
They were even retarded in the 1800. Bullets. So this was a a novel invention. Yeah. This guy figured out a revolver. And it was ai a you shah to take the cylinder out, put a new cylinder in, but every time he did, he got 5 or 6? Is it 6 shots or 5? But so it was the first time ever you could fire multiple ai. They just started fucking up these Indians.
Yeah. They started to go. Protection. Yeah. For sure. That’s great.
But it’s these guys that, like, they dressed like Indians. They fucking infiltrated. They cold camped. They would go deep, deep, deep into, like, uncharted territories.
Those were probably just bad guys pretending to be Indians to make the Indians look bad.
Oh, no. No. No. They they were bad ai. Just But they were bad guys to go after the Indians. Yeah. They were bad guys.
were the fucking Indians. Oh, for sure. They were bad to
each other. Exactly. They were also that’s why I always get so mad about the debate about, like, well, you came here. Like, white people came here and did bet. It’s like, dude, do you think that they weren’t all fighting for land here?
They were all just fighting. They they didn’t ever ever ever surrender.
Yeah. There was lots of tribes.
If they got if they surrendered, they were tortured and murdered. Like, the Comanches used to chop dude’s arms off and legs off and then throw them while they’re still alive on a roaring ai. That’s great. Watch them squirm around. Yeah. They it was fun. They were having a good time.
I meant mentally earlier for my early analogy of the cute cowboy stuff. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. What I was saying is that mentally, we didn’t compare. It was dangerous to ai. I don’t believe I I don’t care.
All that home on the range shit is straight up horseshit.
What I mean is they didn’t compare.
Oh, right. Because they were they were you hear that sound?
You had too many real things.
Someone’s raping an Indian lady. Right. You hear that? You fucking you hear gunshots and children screaming.
Oh, so what? That Jeff dies with me. And so what? That he’s funny. He’s no Dave Chappelle. You you didn’t compare,
but they did. Ai, Billy the Kid. Like, people became famous. They became infamous. These people that everybody wanted to be like Billy the Kid.
Well, that was one guy that we tried to be like. Right now, I’d go big deal, Billy the Kid. There’s a guy in Japan that can shoot 70 like, the phone makes you have 7,000,000. You don’t even appreciate your wife learning guitar because you go, she’s no Bob Dylan. You know, who gives a shit? So that’s what I was trying to say.
That’s what that guy’s a dick. That guy’s mean. But he’s saying that
What the fuck? She just started.
Yeah. But I meant mentally we didn’t compare.
I think we are not designed for it, but I think kids will be. I think the human mind is going to adapt to technology and interacting with each other. And I think socially people are adapting to interacting with each other. You know, like, the way kids, like, go after each other online, like, they’re adapted to it.
They’re not it’s normalized to them. Just like, you know, if you live in a war torn part of the world seeing dead peoples, it normalizes to you. Sure.
think kids are normalizing to electronics. And people wanna resist vatsal, and they wanna say, oh, I don’t tyler my kids to use electronics. Ai, it’s sai part of the world. I use it. It’s a part of the world. Does it it’s not a barrier to being a good person. It’s not a barrier to living a a happy, healthy life.
Just like alcohol is not a barrier. For for some people, it is.
Some people have a real fucking problem with social media, and you see a lot of comics, especially the unsuccessful ones, when they’re they start falling apart ram they get older, it just exacerbates their mental illness, and then it becomes all politics. Yeah. Because these guys used to talk about farts and getting their dick sucked. Now it’s all politics, and it’s all ai life hangs on every decision.
And we’re doomed if this takes place.
Doomed. You know what, comedian dude does that is Kathy Griffin. Oh, shoot. Ai guy does a lot, dude. Oh, you know what I mean? You just That guy yeah. Ai guy’s unhinged. You go on there. It’s all day. Just some doom and gloom. What do you think
do you think that that’s because, like, that’s how they find meaning in an otherwise meaningless existence? Like, what is it about people where their entire life becomes completely wrapped around politics to the point where they’re tweeting about it literally all day long and saying these things that they think are profound about all kinds of different issues.
I think it’s gotta be some sort of virtue signaling. Like, it’s their way to go. Look at how good I am.
It’s also a way to show that you’re relevant. Mhmm. You know, you’re talking about the things that people care about right now, and you’re chiming in and saying the things that need to be sai. You’re being heard. Yeah. You know, there’s a lot of, like, weird there’s a lot of just they want attention. There’s a narcissism to to a lot of it.
But then there’s also people that are capable of going online and having interesting discussions with people they don’t know. And if you can manage that, you can actually get a lot out of ai Twitter and x and all these different ways.
You can get a lot out of it. You can get a lot, but it’s so hard to do. I know. Because it’s ai so it’s such an it’s like you’re you’re deciphering smoke signals. It’s ai the person is not even in front of you. You know, like, you’re getting these weird interactions with people. There’s a lot of, ai, like, what does this guy mean by that? Is he being shitty?
Is he just being honest? Like, what is this?
Yeah. It’s very tough to to to translate their
To suck your way to community.
What are they doing? Like like, what is the were they trying to be funny right there? Were they ai yeah. It’s very tricky.
Well, I’m very lucky, and then I get to talk to so many interesting people. So I don’t need to have as many interesting conversations online with people. Yeah.
And, also, you’re a comedian. My favorite thing about being a comedian is I get heard a lot. Yeah. We get to be heard. That helps. Even when I’m wrong, I get to be heard. So, like, is I wrong and still funny. Yeah. That’s the beauty of it.
That was Patrice’s whole act.
Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I’m often sometimes wrong, and it’s just so funny to go, oh, yeah. Like, I like this guy.
If it’s funny and also this part of being wrong on purpose. Like, I say things that I know is wrong on purpose because it’s funny. It’s funny.
Okay. Go you’re going for the last. Yeah. I’m
just trying to be silly. I’m trying to be silly. That’s what I like. That’s the kind of comedy I like.
So I’m gonna do that and you can like it or you don’t like it. 100%. What infuriates me is when people try to take jokes or talking shit and just conflate it and pretend that it’s a statement. I know. Like, you It
Have any friends? Ai know.
You don’t joke? Yeah. Exactly. You don’t pretend. You don’t say all those comics wanna go to the right It’s because freedom of speech is a pretty big deal to us. Yeah. Naturally, it’s a pretty big deal that we can say whatever we want. Because here’s the thing. Racism is bad. Yeah. But it is kind of funny sometimes.
Sexism is bad. People. But it’s pretty funny sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah.
Yeah. It’s funny. If if it’s funny enough.
Good meh. A solid meme. Great.
And people go, well, that’s racist. You go, well, and it’s vatsal, and it’s funny, but don’t just assume that it’s this blanketly bad thing. Yeah. It’s such a silly
Like, it’s funny no matter who gets it. Right. It’s funny if white guys get it. It’s funny if white women get it. Right. It’s funny if Indian guys get it. Yeah. Things are funny when people get it. When they get them jokes.
It’s funny. Care about the racial stuff when it’s when it’s, like, a comic of any other race doing it. Right. You’re, like, if you’re gonna use that same measuring stick, go to the laugh factor. You could cancel all 12 comedians that are on stage. Mhmm. Making easy racial remarks.
But they’re, like, but he’s Persian. I know, but it’s still a racial
Remark. You know? Especially if you’re cracking on white people. You could crack on white people as hard as you sana
Which is so vague too. I don’t know if this is a smart idea or not, but it’s something I always think is, like, it’s so vague. These shitty comics like Harry Condoballou are ai white people white what white people? Which ones? French? Canadian? Do Jews count? Croatian? What a great lump you’ve done. All ai?
You know how many countries that covers? And then you go, well, that’s why we’re saying it because we don’t mean a specific country. We’re talking about a but then so then that’s racist. You go, well, white’s not a race. It’s just a it’s a color of well, then how come black is is is a race? Because black would be Haiti. It would be tons of parts of Africa.
You know, so I guess ai point is, like, then then it’s not racist when I say black. If it’s not racist when you say white because you’re over glomming the big thing.
Yeah. It’s so it’s ridiculous. Also, how much do white people vary?
There’s so many white people. They vary so much.
It’s so vague. To just say white meh, like
Oh, you must be rich because you’re white. You’re like, do you know how many poor white people there are?
Yeah. Go to where the fucking coal mines are. Those coal mining communities are people who just been popping pills since the eighties. Meh?
Yeah. Never heard of white trash? Like, we dominate the poor community.
Have you ever seen the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia? Dude. Jessica Ai. Fucking Those dancing skills. Didn’t Johnny Knoxville produce that?
I that’s how I saw it. Was Yeah. I don’t know if it’s Johnny Knoxville, but, Jack Hole Productions or whatever. Yeah. Sai ai don’t know if Johnny Knoxville, but, Jack Hole Productions or whatever. Yeah. I think
Knoxville made that. It’s fucking incredible. Amazing. But that’s white people too.
Okay? These poor white people are they’re just a victims of their environment, man.
They’re teaching college kids that, like, if you’re a straight white guy, they just hand you suitcases full of money and that you have no troubles and the cops don’t target you. It’s ai cops Do you
see what Trump said today? I’ll I’ll send this to you, Jamie, because this is wild. This is a wild move. I’ll send this to you, Jamie. It is what he said about, colleges
love it. And DEI endowments. I love it. I’ll I’ll send this to you, Jamie. He’s doing so much crazy shit because he only has one term, you know. Like, all the different things that he said so far about completely banning all, of these, gender transition clinics for kids, hormone therapies for kids, puberty blockers for kids, like, stop vatsal.
And, you know, and he he even called them out for the expression gender affirming kids. It’s a crazy, like, a a literal dystopian euphemism Right. For what you’re doing.
And he said Marxist multiple times. Yeah. And people are gonna go, they’re not Marxist. Do you know BLM self proclaimed themselves as Marxists? Yeah. So you can find hundreds of times where they say we are Marxists. Yeah. So before anybody comments, well, they’re not really they’ve called themselves
people, like, blanketly support that just because it seems like a smart idea. Yeah. Black Lives Matter. Of course, they do. Yeah. There’s cops who have killed people. We’ve seen it. Okay. Yeah. It’s definitely good to support that.
Sure. But then you find out all the other stuff behind ai, and then you find out that
the people that were running it would fucking buy real estate.
Do a little homework. Buy ai They gave all your money to trans people. They didn’t help the black community at all.
It’s not only gonna tax, but confiscate endowments of every university the Department of Justice finds has engaged in illegal discrimination under the guise of equity, which is basically every university in the country, but it’s especially true with the Ivy League, which is, if this happens, will die. They will crush, okay. But this is oh, it’s you know who suffers the most from this discrimination ram discrimination is Asian people. Do you know why?
Because Asian people score so high and they work so hard, They make it more difficult for them Yeah. To get it. They have to have higher grades, and they have to have a higher score. They, like, they score them based on, like, social interactions Which
Which if you’re studying 18 hours a day, like a
lot of these Asians gonna win. Yeah. Well, it’s their culture. Their culture is this, like, nose to the grindstone Disciplined.
Hard work, discipline this, like, nose to the grindstone
Hard work, disciplined culture. I had a buddy of mine
And no one in America is mad at them
It’s good. I had a buddy of
mine that was a national Taekwondo champion while he was going through his medical residency.
He was Korean and his no matter what he did, this guy won the nationals. He was the national Taekwondo champion, and he wasn’t, like, talented either. It wasn’t ai he was Hard work. It was a 100% hard work.
And this fucking guy, like, would work all day long at school and then put his books in his backpack and walk upstairs to get a workout in.
He would just do flights of stairs over and over again while he was at school because he had to do something and then go back to school. Won the fucking nationals like that. And that’s, ai, it’s this kind of crazy work ethic that some Asian households instill in their children. Yep.
And it’s tough to compete with them. So what they’ve done is they’ve you know, there’s been lawsuits about it. I Sai believe Harvard was sued. Right? Was Harvard sued That they were discriminating against Asian Americans?
So they have, like, ways that that what they’re saying is, what the what they were complaining was that there’s ways that they have that, like, accentuate certain attributes, like, that lets you get in, like, think social things that you do, different things you do. Mhmm. They give you extra points that they felt ai was designed just to keep less Asian people in. To, like Crazy.
To push some of them out because so many of them were getting in there and dominating.
Yeah. Dominating the fucking world. But that’s great. Yes. Well, this Meh,
How a hardworking household and you you develop that work ethic, you can you might not be happy. That’s part of the problem.
Yeah. Well, I like that they complain about their ai moms, and you’re like, dude, they made you successful.
Right. You gotta figure out how to be happy.
Right. That’s up for you to do.
This is it, the lawsuit, a threat to what happened? An organization created by antirac conscious admissions activist Edward Blum, citing itself students for fair admission sued Harvard alleging that the university discriminates against Asian Americans and seeking to prevent Harvard College and other colleges and universities from using a sai wide ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person.
Interesting. So this this that’s interesting though because on paper, that sounds like a good thing. A wide ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person, like, if you wanna educate a child, right, you want a kid to go from being a young teenager to being an adult and you’re educating them, there is a social aspect to it.
Right? Like, you don’t wanna develop, like, complete sociopaths that just go to work. But you can’t also you can’t, like, stop that option. Like, there’s people want a quality of outcomes, a very important point, but there’s not a quality of effort. Mhmm. There just isn’t.
And in the Meh Dog race of life, you’re occasionally gonna get a Michael Jordan. You’re gonna get a guy who works harder than everybody, and he’s gifted, and he’s gonna exceed. He’s gonna pass you all, and there’s nothing you could do about it. Nothing you do about Mike Tyson when he’s 22 years old. Get the fuck out of the way. Pick up tennis.
Yeah. He’s he’s gonna kill you. Yeah.
You wanna be number 2, maybe?
number 2, you’re eventually gonna get
to have fight number 1, and that’s not gonna be a lot of fun.
Right? The and that guy, when you saw the way he trained when he was a young man, he trained like a person possessed. Yep. He lived. He watched film all day. Yeah. He was obsessed with fighting That’s all he had. And talented and gifted. So if you have those things altogether, the world is not fair.
And you can’t make it fair with laws, and you can’t make it fair with rules, and it doesn’t make you any better to suppress someone in some sort of a way by diminishing their success. And then include someone who’s a fucking complete psychopath who studies 18 hours a day and dominates and starts a business when they’re 19 and becomes a billionaire by the time they’re 26, and then all of a sudden, you know, buys Twitter from Elon Musk.
Ask one of these crazy people who doesn’t understand these kind of things or has never even thought of it. Yeah. Say, oh, you know, you’re watch I noticed you’re watching the WNBA game. Do you think it’s unfair that, Brittney Griner makes more than her teammates? And they’ll go, no.
She’s the best. Right. Right.
Right. That’s the best. Just like anyone else that’s the best Yeah. Makes more money. How can you how can you understand that Bryden Griner makes more than her teammates, but you can’t understand that the NBA generates more money and is better, makes more than the WNBA. Right.
Well, what people get scared of is the amount of control and power that you have with that kind of money. And then some people wanna make decisions for all of us.
Like Bill Gates. Like, one of the wackiest ones he’s talking about, like, blocking the sun, putting particles in the sky to block the sun to cool the earth. Like, hey, fuckhead. Yeah.
a whole lot of people on earth. You don’t get to sai
You didn’t talk for all of us just because you have a $100,000,000,000. That’s crazy talk. Right. That’s what people are scared of.
Yeah. Scared of is that when you really do have ultimate money and ultimate power, with most people, there’s this desire to control people. It’s part of the gig. And some of them, when they decide they don’t wanna go into politics, they start, like, influencing things behind the scenes. They start donating. They have funds.
They have a giant fund, and their fund donates to all these different organizations. And it and Bill Gates’ case, it prevented
them from criticizing him because the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,
they donate all this money. These media ai you to help global health and whatever the fuck it is. But what it really does is it buys off people from criticizing you. 100%. And then you start doing wild shit, like telling everybody they should eat plant based food and Yeah.
Fucking buyout. Whatever they want
to eat. Yeah. You start controlling people. Just like people like to pull strings on people. The George Soros’s of the world Scares me so much. Get DAs elected and then put even more progressive DA to go in after him and see if he can fuck with things by letting people out of jail and defunding the cops.
And it’s like they’re playing these weird monopoly games with the whole world.
You know where you sai it? The, like, a great example was, when Barack Obama got into office, Michelle Obama’s whole thing was, like, nutrition. Like, that was what she was gonna, like, really, like, work on. And, dude, it was almost, like, after 2 weeks, someone brought her in the bag.
I was like, listen, bitch. Yeah. We hear what you’re saying about the food industry. I don’t know if you know how much bread we’re putting in your husband’s pockets. And then she immediately was like, maybe fitness. Maybe your kids could run around 10 minutes a day. How about that? Is that better? She gave up the food stuff.
Gave up the food stuff. It just was immediately.
No. I just I didn’t have it muted.
I wasn’t supposed to play it.
But then it was ai all of the all of it all the focus went towards, hey. Just 10 minutes a day. Have your kids go outside and play. It was all the food stuff gone. Wow. Yeah. And and you and you realize, oh, there are other things. You know?
There’s, like, all these other things that are
Just other things. It’s Money. 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of dollars. Yeah. When you’re that far ahead of the game, you know, if you’re playing a game and you cannot you cannot beat the game, there’s no way to beat it. You’re on level 1. There’s a 1,000,000 levels. The people that have been playing it, that you’re playing against, they’ve been playing for 30 years. They have all the armor.
They got all the magic spells. You’re not gonna win that game, and that is what people are really scared about with people who have a lot of money is that they don’t just have a boat. They don’t just have a house, but then they start influencing what people can and can’t do. Then they start funding studies to talk about particular types of energy Yeah.
Because they’ve got an enormous amount of money invested in this green renewable energy
or whatever it is. But what it really
is is money. They’re not ever doing anything for you ever. Whether it’s climate change
Or whatever the whether it’s energy, it’s always money, and they’ll flavor
With it’s for you. It’s for us. Right. We have to worry about the environment. We have to didn’t Al Gore become the 1st guy to make a $1,000,000,000 off of climate change?
I know he’s definitely the face of it for a long time.
But I I read that that Al Gore it could be bullshit, but I read that that Al Gore was the first climate change billionaire. Interesting. The things that he invested in in that movie that he put out that scared the fuck out of me.
We’re all like, we gotta do something. Yeah. I saw that.
Way, not a single thing not a single thing was accurate, not even close.
Yeah. Not Might as well have been made by Michael Moore. Because he might as well have just been Michael Moore
is more accurate. He was at least back in the day. Yeah. He watched Roger and Me. Michael Moore in the early days made some great films.
lot of it was just bullcrap. Well, not the first one. Not Roger.
Remember when he, like, ai he did a scene where, like, these kids go into a bank and they buy a gun over the counter from the bank. And I was like What? Yeah. It was, of this gun one, Bowling for Columbine or whatever. And I remember seeing that scene as, ai, I worked at Hollywood Video at the time, and I was, like, this is terrifying. We gotta get rid of these guns.
And then I looked into it years later when the Internet kind of grew, and I was, like, oh, it’s all total bullshit. It was, like, a made up scene.
Which that’s why we weren’t even allowed at Hollywood Video to keep Michael Moore’s movies in the documentary section. We weren’t even allowed to keep it in that section. Really? Because it’s not counted as a documentary.
Oh, sai. It didn’t used to be like that. I kinda I gotta be honest. I don’t think I watched Bowling For Columbine. I might have. It was so long ago, But I do remember Roger and me being very impactful because it was about the auto industry moving out of Flint, Michigan
Yeah. And about how the town collapsed.
It happens in Pittsburgh. It was just in Pittsburgh, and you see all these abandoned warehouses where Americans used to work.
And you go, oh, wasn’t it better with Chinese slaves making you $300 sneakers? Like, it’s no. It’s not better.
It’s not better at all. It’s not better for anybody. Yeah.
It’s crazy what they did, and they just did it for money. They did it for money. They shipped over things overseas because because they can get people to work for nothing, which is so crazy. I know. That you you can’t do it here, but you do it there.
I was talking to this person who, ran
a plant in Mexico. We were we were getting
a little tipsy, and I didn’t like what they were justifying Oh. This this procedure of doing vatsal. And they were trying to tell me that these people would starve to death if it wasn’t for that plant. I go, those people have been there for 1000 of years. Yeah. I go, and you know why they don’t have any money? Probably because we ai their government. Right.
We gave them loans they couldn’t pay off, and then we took all their resources. And then we moved plants over there.
And the the pollution of the plants is, like, just insane too. Like, they live in fog filled cities.
We can go back to the entire areas run by the cartel because we have drugs illegal in this country unless they’re prescribed.
And then you have the sack of
food and drink the billions
of dollars. Like, what about all this?
Nobody’s worried about that slavery. There’s no talk about slavery that we abolished in this country.
Everyone wants to talk about that slavery.
But not a slave that made the phone.
Current slavery that made this ram my shoes or or all the things you wear? Or how about the sex trafficking? How about the women that are slaves right now?
Let’s get to work on that.
Probably been smuggled across the border. We we don’t even know what those numbers are.
If I put together enough money, ai, I’m not the super rich, but I’ve got some money. If I put together like, my life mission was to fix that, they’d just kill me in a month. Go ahead.
What are you doing, dude? Tell jokes and talk about baseball. Why why are you trying to help in something that matters?
Yeah. Imagine trying to shut down the cartel. Oh. And you live in a normal house.
I’d make it a week. We wouldn’t let you go. What happened to Jeff?
That’s a $1,000,000,000 a month business.
Ai the fuck are you talking about? Why?
Ai not gonna let you get away with that. No way. They kill you. Yeah.
Why wouldn’t they kill you?
So you’ve got all these problems. And and then, you know, shipping things shipping these factories to these other places,
it doesn’t keep people from starving to death. Mm-mm.
It’s just we were doing an unethical thing. Like, you can’t do it on this patch of dirt. But if you just move it to that patch of
now you can do unethical things. Now it’s fine.
This is crazy. What is this? A casino cruise ship?
Not only that, like, now that we know. So they did that back then when there’s no Internet. You know, you speak it across the board. Nobody I’m still buying
oh, look. My car is $5 cheaper. Yeah. Yeah. And you don’t care.
Yeah. And so everybody like, you hear some stories about Michigan. If you don’t live there, whatever. I’m over here in LA. Right.
I got a nice car, but your car is made in Mexico. And it’s ai Right. We we don’t even realize, like, what the impact of that was. But now that we have the Internet, now you can see it, and we still do it.
Like, we it looks like it’s grandfathered in that you buy your phone from a company that uses slaves.
And the factories literally have nets around them to keep people from jumping off, and we’re like, okay.
And, also, I’m not pretending I’m better than anyone else. Right? Like, I I promise that, but I don’t yammer on on my social media about slavery all day.
I’m aware that I’m in this system or this network. It’s just sai hypocritical when I hear, like, LeBron talk about slavery that happened in our country over a 100 years ago while he’s dripping in Nike. Do you how dumb can you be to pretend to care about slavery while you’re making, oh, what, a 1,000,000,000 or something from from Nike over the think
that if you’re a person that is in mainstream world acceptance, whether a sports star or, you know, any kind of media personality, there’s, like, certain things you feel obligated
I would think so. I only know how I would behave, and I like, I just think there’s honest money and then there’s dishonest money. And I’ve never had the stomach for
ai the money they paid the people to endorse Kamala Harris? Oh, yeah. That’s what we’re talking
about. Dishonest money right there. So Cardi P, Beyonce. Did you know
that was even legal? Fools. Did you know that was even legal?
It It shouldn’t be legal. The vogue the, The View keeps yammering about how Elon Musk shouldn’t be allowed or, like, you know, I saw a video yesterday about you. Oh, the Joe Rogans of the world are influencing. You’re like
Oh, that’s that that feminist guy?
Yeah. And, like, they’re so mad.
Sai that there’s this multibillion dollar right wing ecosystem that’s been developed just like a terrorist network
That radicalizes young people? Like, what? By talking to sai?
By telling them to be good guys? To tell them to be honorable to their partner? Radicalize
this. Let me ask you. On air for this podcast, how much money did Donald Trump give you to endorse him? A $100,000,000. No. He didn’t. He gave
Gave you 0, Joe. Nothing. He gave you 0 because you thought I think that this is what’s best for the country, given the two options.
I I know I knew the resistance that Ai would face, but I
She had $10,000,000. 10,000,000. But hold on. She talked for, like, 3 minutes.
That’s good. What do you mean that’s good?
That’s too much. No. No. It’s plenty. It’s perfect. 10,000,000? It’s a good deal. It’s a good
deal, the taxpayer’s money. I I mean, it’s a good deal, all these people that are, like, donating money to the Democratic party, and they’re $20,000,000 sai. You That’s the crazy thing. Mutants. They’re $20,000,000 they spent sai $1,000,000,000. They’re $20,000,000 in debt, and Trump offered to pay their debt.
He’s like, we have a lot of money left over because most of our media was called it earned media. I had to look it up. So earned media is essentially whenever he’s in the news Yeah. Or when he’s getting interviewed on shows or on podcasts. Yeah. That’s earned media, and that’s what he did.
Well, I just love people go, why are you getting so passionate about this, Jeff? It’s ai it’s right in front of your eyes. Right. You you if you have to pay someone 10,000,000 to endorse a, but then, like, b is doing it for free because they believe in that, like, idea. Which one seems more nefarious?
1.8. How much is that real? How do
any evidence that supports this stuff.
Some of them being asked and said I was not paid.
But wait a minute. Oprah was paid. There was an FEC thing.
She would her her company was paid to host an event.
Okay. They paid her company $1,000,000, dude.
I’m just saying that’s Right.
Happened in that where they hosted it and how people
company. Dollars? What what did she do that hosted an event? Did she put together an event, like cater an event?
Campaign ai I’ll try to put on the screen. Show that they paid Harpo Productions for event production. It was paid for post ai streaming event Uh-huh. Which I don’t know how much that cost.
Production cost of a live stream event. That could be money.
Since she was not paid a personal fee for the event, She said I was paid nothing.
Right. But they she didn’t donate her company to do this. She she got paid for it. That’s right.
Sai don’t I don’t know, like, the
Sai this is where I got it.
So she got a gig is essentially what it is.
5,000,000 to Megan Thee Stallion, 3,000,000 to Lizzo, 1.8 for Eminem. I know
that’s in this article, but it doesn’t show, like, where And 1,000,000 for Oprah.
That could be made up. Okay.
This is an Instagram list poll.
Ai didn’t make it up, but I but that’s
I want it to be real. No problem. I want it to be real. Yeah. Well, if it
I I I it makes me believe in our earth better if they didn’t, if they just did it for free.
It makes me believe in the earth better if they did it. Ai I don’t wanna think that Eminem really believed that shit.
Yeah. Exactly. Well, it’s it’s always not true. People that do this. I wouldn’t
say you went out there for 1.8.
no There’s no federal ai showing campaign payments to Eminem or Megan Thee Stallion. So when it says mostly false, like, where did that rumor emanate from?
Someone put it on Instagram and it goes people run
wild with it because it sounds fun.
Damn. Ai thought it was fun.
Yeah. It is fun. If I’m wrong, I’m willing to, you know Ai, you know I read it, and Ai my blood boiled. Yeah. I was ai, what is going on?
The Beyonce one is crazy.
There’s no evidence that it’s true. It might be true. Doesn’t mean it’s not. There’s no current evidence out of today. It’s okay.
Mostly false, but this is political
Well, if it’s not true, then it’s not true. But, let me tell you. If it is true, then it’s that legal?
Crazy. Is that legal? Was it is it legal to pay Beyonce $10,000,000 to talk at a political rally?
I don’t think so. There’s all these, like, little companies.
Would they pay her that much? That seems crazy. That does seem crazy.
Yeah. But she doesn’t need the money.
Shah just ai to desperate times for the campaign trail, and then they go, I was gonna endorse her anyways. I’ll just do it for, you know, a little fee. My time is worth money. My private plane costs money. Can you cover that? You know?
Well, it seems suspicious, you know, because when someone’s got that kind of money to do something that people are gonna look down upon if they find out if it’s true Yeah. That’s what makes me skeptical. Because, like, someone shah that kind of money. For her, a $10,000,000 it sounds crazy to say this, but I believe that for Beyonce and Jay z, $10,000,000 is not noticeable.
Ai not gonna change their life at all.
No change their ai, but but you still notice. Like I think they’re billionaires, dude. They, Beyonce’s got almost $1,000,000,000.
Yeah. I think he has a 1,000,000,000 as well. Interesting. I don’t think they’re gonna notice. So that’s, like, not gonna change your lifestyle tyler.
Ai of your house to go do a thing that puts you in the news. Yeah.
Well, think about the Super Bowl. All those people that perform the Super Bowl halftime get paid $0.
But they perform. She wasn’t even performing. She’s just talking. I mean, maybe maybe $10,000,000 $10,000,000 you can’t help it even if you got $2,000,000,000 in the bank. But part of me is, like, I maybe I’m just looking at how I would look at it.
Like, I wouldn’t do shit. Yeah. I don’t know. Well, I always think and this maybe my naivety to, like, rich people is that, like, they don’t have to be bought anymore because they’re rich. Like, you’d think that. That’s how I think about it. Is that, like, I wouldn’t do anything against it’s easier to do things against my moral compass when I was broke. Right.
You’d say, Jeff, we’ll give you $500. Go steal this thing because I’d be like, you know, I need $500. Whereas, like, now I can be a little more generous with my money. I can be a little more ethical because I’m I’m in a place where I don’t have to worry about the the $500 isn’t worth breaking some ethical code for me.
Right. But money isn’t your existence. And for some people, money is a sai score of how well they’re doing in ai. And they get addicted to numbers. They get addicted to this idea of constantly. Yeah. And they compare themselves to all the other people.
Fox News is from Fox News. They have Washington Examiner reporting that money was spent in ways, I guess, you could argue maybe.
Well, they spent 6 figures bill building, the set for tyler daddy, but that seems Sai 100,000. That people are saying that’s outrageous, but that’s not that outrageous. A $100,000. You build a sai, you have to lease a building, you have to bring in cameras and all that shit. I could see that being a $100,000.
Campaign speak at least $15,000,000 on event production, FEC record show, with many payments lining up with high profile events and concerts with celebrity attendees or performers.
And that’s how you do it because it’s a performance. Right.
Sai you pay them for performing.
To perform. That’s the difference.
That’s the difference. The truth is just an epic disaster. This is a $1,000,000,000 disaster, Linda Lindy Lee, Harris surrogate, and DNC National Finance Committee member told Fox and Friends Weekend on Saturday. So they did they just definitely spent a lot of money. Harris’ campaign cut multiple 6 figure paychecks in September for left leaning groups that have been vocal about defunding the police, reparations that are tied to radical activists who have supported notorious anti Semite Louis Farrakhan, Fox News Digiately reported.
That’s wild. So they cut checks to left leaning groups. So they spend money to get people to talk
To the groups. The groups pay the performers and the people that speak.
Well, no. We also, the groups, like, you’re paying them to be vocal. Yeah. Like, by saying I cut multiple 6 figure checks, like, you’re funding these people to go out and do these things. The FEC camp,
Also spent north of $56,000,000 on payroll and payroll taxes in just 3 months.
Yeah. That’s crazy. That payroll is is your performers.
Ai also show the campaign gave an excess of a $100,000,000 to various consulting and marketing firms, including Gambit Strategies LLC, DuPont Circle Strategies LLC, and Bully Pulpit Interactive LLC. That is so crazy. They gave those folks a $100,000,000.
Yeah. So, like, $1,000,000 to Meh and M could have been lost in there, but I’m just saying that
Yeah. No There it is. You have
to Right. Play Well, I think with a guy like Eminem too, he doesn’t like performing. Like, he’s, you know, he has agoraphobia, like, he’s, like, he doesn’t like leaving the house, which is crazy. I saw him. He killed it. I saw him over here at the racetrack. Really? He played at COTA. Yeah. It was awesome.
It was ai a 100000 people were there because it was, I don’t know what the real number is. I might have made that up. But a lot of people
Because it was there. People were there for Formula 1 and they have this enormous place. Like, I saw the Stones there, and I think it was I mean, how many people’s code a seat? I mean, it had to be 80,000 people. It’s one of the biggest crowds I’ve ever seen. It was insane.
He said f one thing But I saw
Eminem there. He was great, but he performed so rarely.
My buddy was at an f one thing recently, and, like, he had one of the concerts that was performing afterwards or something ram maybe it was just f one. I don’t know. Maybe there wasn’t a concert. Whatever it was. Michael Jordan was just hanging out. Michael Jordan had a hat on, a hood on.
He had, like, the things over his ears from the noise of the car. And my buddy’s like, hey, man. Like, I you know? And then Jordan took, like, a selfie with him, chatted him up for a few minutes. And I was like, that’s how popular it’s getting.
Like, you said the Meh and M was performing in an f one thing?
Yeah. Yeah. He performed, you know, they had the race the races and then one night he performed.
That’s crazy. He performed
I think he performed Sunday night or Saturday night. I saw I just saw Post Malone there too. He was just there, 2 weeks ago doing his, country show. Yeah. He’s, doing like I
It’s great. Yeah. It’s fucking I love that dude. Oh, that’s the best. He’s so much fun. He’s such a fun dude too. Just fun to hang out with him too. Get to see him and give him a hug.
100,000. So it was just in fucking insane huge crowd. He killed it too.
So but he doesn’t like to do shows. So if to get him out there for a
political event, you gotta come out to Cheddar. Yeah. He better play the guy.
Cheddar. Especially, he doesn’t do a lot of shows a year. Yeah. 1.8 will go a long way. Yeah. Guy lives in Detroit.
living there is not that not that steep.
Yeah. You know? I I think that you I also think that it’s people care about money. You know?
Yeah. Well, especially if you’re a person who thinks about money all the time. That’s what I was saying about, like, I know rich dudes. I know dudes who are billionaires Mhmm. Who get uncomfortable with them when they’re around 100 billionaires because they feel like losers.
That’s wild. It’s hilarious to ai breaks my it’s like when you showed me all the planets in a row, and I was going, oh, like, that’s what you just did with money from
it. Firm. Because there’s always layers to it. Like, I’m pretty wealthy, but I’m very poor compared to my friend Elon. Yeah. Like, I’m a pauper.
I’m like a dude living in a shitty studio apartment
compared to that guy. Like, that’s what it’s like.
Like, there’s, like, crazy levels to it. But, also, he works in a way I am not willing to do.
And he doesn’t sleep. That’s one thing people don’t talk about these really even Bill Gates, whether you agree with him or not, like, the dude was willing to, like, sleep like a fish where he’d take, like he’d sleep for, like, 15 minutes and wake up and program again. Like, he worked really hard Yeah. To become Bill Gates.
Oh, yeah. There’s no doubt. And without Microsoft, like, who knows where we’d be without the Windows operating system?
It was fucking everywhere.
It was Yeah. It was everything. He’s also cured, like, 500 things. These, like, small, like, little nonprofits will say, well, there’s this disease called this. You got how much you need? They go a $1,000,000, we think, maybe, and then he just gives them a money, and then they close.
They go, well, what are we gonna work on now? We he cured it. You know?
Are you sure about that? Well, that’s what I’ve is this another one of these ones I
got wrong? One of these ones. Yeah. Let’s ask you to fill ai just put in philanthropicapitalism. Okay? And philanthropicapitalism is you’re acting like a philanthropist, but you’re making a lot of money through this. Like, he invested a lot of money in the mRNA vaccines, and that’s why he was promoting it. And he made, like, $500,000,000.
Then after he dumped his stock, he started talking shit about it. It wasn’t really that good. The the virus wasn’t that dangerous. Like, what? Yeah. Where was this guy?
Well, but I’m saying, like, all these, Ai don’t know how to look up if he’s cured any diseases or anything. I don’t know how you’d look that up. Is there a way to look that up?
They’ve invested in efforts to develop cures for those for diseases For sure. Including sickle cell. They’ve also
No. The only one I know that’s close, I think, is sickle cell, but I think then they just pull back
about that if they cured sickle cell. You
know where sickle cell came from?
I thought that he cured all these small ones.
You know where sickle cell came from? No. It came from, resistance to malaria. Really? Isn’t that crazy? Yeah. The people that, experienced malaria that’s tracked down in their genes and they pass it on to their ancestors. That’s where, sickle
a buddy ai mine died from sickle cell. When I was a kid, a guy used to do taekwondo with, dude named Walter. He’s awesomely talented guy. But, like, he would get, like, real sick, man. He just couldn’t train, couldn’t come in for months.
Yeah. There was a new drug that came out this year. I think that they thought was gonna be, like, ending it, but they’ve had to quickly pull it off.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
Yeah. Anticipated number higher than anticipated number of deaths reported in trials.
Yeah. Indicating the benefits of the drug no longer outweighed the risks. So it kills people quicker than sickle cell. He just goes Which is like
I guess that’s a solution of sorts.
There’s been so many of those drugs. You know, 33%.
what it is? 30 something percent of all drugs the FDA approves get pulled.
Ugh. Like, whoopsies. Yeah. We tried that one. What what’s the matter, you know? You ever heard that book? I think it’s called, like, 19 I don’t know the name of the book. It’s named after a year. Eighty 4. 1984? I think it’s Not the
No. Not George Orwell. It’s called Oh,
That would be ridiculous. Gosh.
It’s a What’s it about? I’m trying to look in my in my Audible for this book. But the basically, the premise is, this guy cures cancer.
Why don’t you just search and type in the number 19? Maybe.
But it might be called 2020 or something.
No. It’s a I listen to a lot of books. What’s it called there? I’ll find it. Okay. But the, the premise is this guy cures cancer, and then every and at every at first, everyone’s great. He becomes the richest guy in the world. Everyone’s happy that he cured cancer. But then, then people start to resent him because they’re ai, you know, I should have already had my inheritance by now.
This guy’s playing god, keeping my parents alive longer than they should. There becomes, like, these ideas of, like, no. He’s wrong for doing this. He’s affected society. Like, there’s no real estate being freed up as quick now. People should just die however they die naturally. And the the it’s it’s a fun little yeah.
It’s not obviously, not real or nothing, but the the it was an interesting kind of way to look at things.
Well, that’s a sociopath’s way of looking at things. Imagine that. Like, what you’re thinking is if someone dies, I get their stuff. I know. Why don’t they just die? It’s disgusting.
But I could see how groups would start to think that. You know, like, that’s how, like like, life is. You may you do a good idea. Look at the systems that we put in place, like, back in the day, and now everyone looks like that was just their way to trap people in the projects.
You’re ai, at first, it was like a really nice idea, like, that they wanted to give people that couldn’t afford places in the city. There’s they but it’s all been
That’s why how people react to that one dude who’s trying to live to be 2000 years old. You know, that one guy who gets, like, young guy’s blood injected in his body. Oh, yeah. Just do anything. Different things. It’s ai, I’ve seen so many people mad at him.
If everybody lived everybody lived for 500 years, the whole world would be overcrowded. Yeah. But everyone’s not trying to do it.
Yeah. Also, if I could give you a pill
would be healthy just take this one pill. You’ll be healthy for a 150 years. You’re not gonna take it? Shut the fuck up.
It’s called 20:30 by Albert Brooks.
But it’s interesting. Just kind of ai yeah. Because you start to do see how, like, over tyler, people just misconstrue things. Enough time goes by.
People are willing to do all sorts of mental gymnastics. I mean, that’s how this whole gender affirming care thing got
We would never let kids get tattoos. We’re letting them get their dicks chopped off. Like, sai who? Like, why? 30 years ago,
if you said that we’d be debating or even Right. Having to have a conversation that’s controversial about whether a guy can be a woman Right. They would laugh in the streets at us. You know? It’s real. And now it’s real. So Sai just, ai, that’s kinda how the book does a really good job of describing, like, they would just resent that guy after a while.
They would hate him for curing cancer.
Some people would. There’s always gonna be weak bitches in this world, and they exist to that you just you’re talking about your parents. I don’t wanna be like that. Yeah. That’s what weak bitches are there for. They their weak behavior, jealous behavior, you learn from ram. And you go, oh, okay.
I I see what that guy is doing. I don’t ever sana be a lazy guy.
Sai feel like that with a ton of people in my life right now.
Hell, yeah. Dude. You’re gonna always they’re there. They’re always gonna be there. There’s some people that just they’re not gonna keep up and you can’t keep them in your life either. You just can’t. You gotta keep moving. Yeah. Some people are never gonna run out of problems, and they’re never gonna run out of friends to throw those problems at.
Yeah. I was telling you this early, but, like like, the day after the election, like, I, like, woke up. I was with my buddies. I was just sitting there, and I was about to open up my phone for the first time since the since Trump wins the election. I just took a deep breath. I was like, I’m gonna lose a lot of friends today.
I was about to post some shit and, like, just, like, I was so
You’re not losing friends though. You’re losing friends that weren’t really your friends. They were friends with conditions. Mhmm. You know, Ron White is a giant Kamala Harris supporter, believe it or not. Ron White always votes Blue. Yeah. He’s one of them low information voters.
Like, you start giving him facts, he falls apart, but he’ll fucking tell you that guy shouldn’t be the fucking president. Like,
he’s like, he’s a good president.
Yeah. But he’s I love him to death.
of my best friends. I don’t care.
That’s how things should work.
That’s how it’s supposed to work. He’s different political ideas. He’s different ways of thinking about things. That’s fine.
It’s broke my heart that a lot of people have treated me the way because I feel like people were fine with conservative Jeff. They were fine. They knew that I’m a Christian and that I’m that I Ai lean, you know, ai, and especially now, lean even more right. And then but they didn’t really draw a line until I I became, like, supportive of Donald Trump.
Like, that’s when they drew a line, and they go, we don’t wanna talk to you now.
I didn’t I don’t think I moved right at all. I stayed.
But the but the whole thing is moved.
I’m saying. That’s I haven’t changed many of my thoughts. That’s just that it’s gone. I’ve what was a shah was a democrat is now republican?
There’s a few of my thoughts that I I used to, like, be all in on, and now I’m ai, and this is, like, just about, like, human psychology. Like, I was all in on universal basic income, which I think is gonna be necessary in the future because I think automation it’s something Andrew Yang talked about when he was running for president.
I think he’s correct. That automation and AI is gonna just consume so many especially Ai. It’s gonna consume so many jobs. There’s gonna be so many people that have to, like, rethink their life and figure it out. And I think if we don’t compensate those people somehow or another Mhmm.
We’re gonna have a real fucking chaotic problem on our hands just to keep people happy and healthy. Yeah. I think universal basic income might be the way to go. But I used to always think like, hey, maybe if we gave universal basic income to people then, you know, they would still be ambitious, but they’d be ambitious in ai pursuing their own career or developing their own business or, you know, taking that money and using it to be free.
But now I think that human nature, if you give people there’s so many people that if you don’t give them a difficult problem to solve and if you provide them with all their needs, their food, and their shelter, they just get lazy.
100%. So there’s what you don’t ai.
Right. So there’s 2 things going on simultaneously. It’s 1, we have to address the fact that there’s no way to get around the fact that automation and AI is gonna consume a lot of jobs, and I think universal basic income is probably the only solution for some of those people.
But then there’s also the psychology aspect of it. Like, if you do tell people you never have to work again, most people never have to work again, and they’re gonna regret it someday. One day, they’re gonna look at all these people they admire, that have accomplished things, that ai these fun sai lives, successful lives,
they and they’re gonna fear envy, and they’re gonna feel despair, and they’re gonna feel ai they could have done something more with their life. But they got trapped. The siren song of comfort led them into the rocks.
That’s the devil, the comfort. A 100%. Like like all my friends. Right? My friends not all my friends, but during, like, COVID, they’re ai, what am I gonna do? And this is, like, really stressful, and I don’t have any right? And then they got their government money, right, for for, you know, being out of work.
And you know what they did, Joe? They bought guitars and baseball cards. And I was like, I don’t think you were as struggling as you thought you were.
Well, ai, you needed something to make sure
you knew. Enough. Sai it’s ai you’ve got like, if if you give them they’ll say, well, this isn’t basic this basic income, it it’s not enough for me to really ai. Because what is really living? You know? Like so it’s just always gonna be more.
So it’s like it’s flustering to try to solve that. You know? The hard work’s the answer.
Well, you’re not gonna feel happy with no purpose, and that is another thing that we found during COVID. One of the things, like, people were so at each other’s throats at during COVID is because everybody is at home. Mhmm. They were all fucking bored, and they’re all just freaking freaking out and just, like, attacking people over every wear a fucking mask.
I know. Like, everybody is out of their ai. I lost my mind.
It’s like most people did, especially if you’re seeing your life go away. Mhmm. Because you maybe you’ve worked 30 years to develop a business, then all of a sudden some new thing comes along, and you have to shut your business down for a year and a half.
work. I don’t have money. Right. And you can’t get a loan and, like, oh my god. And the the the lease payments for the building, they keep coming in. Like, what am I gonna do? And then you’re on to a crawl day.
All small businesses that they claim they care about.
God. They crushed so many fucking restaurants. Yeah. They almost crushed the Comedy Store.
Oh, I haven’t made money in 6 months. And now a different group’s gonna break the windows out of that place that I didn’t even Yeah. So all at the same time Yeah. That’s enough to make people.
And people are saying defund the police at the same time. You’re like, oh, this is great.
That’s enough to change my political opinions, and it’s enough for a psychopath to grab a gun and go, hey. Maybe don’t knock out the windows of my store. Like, it was just too much at once.
If someone comes along from the left that is an objective sensible person that’s making sense of, like, immigration, foreign policy, then I’m still left. Right. I’m still tyler same person. I’m still as because socially, I’m left on almost everything on almost everything. The the, you know, the hard right is to me just like the hard left.
The the crazy fucks that are out there in the fringes, and they they sort of define the left and define the right for everybody. Like, you define the right by, like, white supremacists. Yeah. KKK. You’ve defined the left by Antifa. Like Right. Jesus Christ. Most people are, like, right here.
Most people are, like, I just want rules and law and everybody be kind and healthy and a prosperous society and no pollution.
like we could all work together and do a better job of all these different things.
But ai Jordan Peterson says, who’s ai my favorite human in the world, I love him so much. But he was saying, like, it’s really easy to identify and rebuke the far right. Like, we’re very good at identifying it and going, I ai or disavow or whatever the term is. We get we don’t want that. Yeah.
But then with the left, the very extreme left, we kind of celebrate it, and we post it, and we brag about it, and we go, look how good I am.
I think they thought we’d finally, we have thugs. You know? I think that it’s one of those things.
I’m against the far left. It’s the bullies. It I am. And the far right.
And the far right. It’s the bullies. It’s the bullies on both sides. The the people that just wanna use a group and have a a bunch of people, they’re all together and attack Yeah. And just go smash windows and light things on fire. And then there’s also they get funded to do that too. Yeah.
All this shit that you’re seeing where the the for Harris, the where they funded all these different organizations, people fund through political through PACs, through all sorts of different methods, fund all sorts of organizations.
They donate to all sorts of organizations. Some of these organizations cause problems. Yeah. And they do it because they want them to do it. They want problems. Yeah. There’s like, during
Lives Matter, when you see stacks of bricks laying around
I’m not buying it. I’m not buying this. Someone left $30,000 worth of bricks around. They were just doing construction. Just conveniently happened at the same time the protest is here.
Everyone loves coincidences. They think it is. It’s all coincidence. Conspiracy theories. Yeah.
But it’s just you know? And that is another group thing, you know, about being a part of the group. If you’re a part of a group that’s yelling and lighting things on fire, you know how much fun that must be?
Oh, yeah. For the yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s happening.
You’re doing it to support black
people? Who doesn’t wanna support black people? I’m the best. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. You know, and Starbucks is ai, what did I do? I didn’t do anything. Yeah. At least when I supported my group, I didn’t get a free Xbox. You know what I’m saying? Like, that’s I don’t think you really care about what you believe in if you if you’re getting lamps and shit.
And then in New York, they had the dumbest way of handling it. They just let people burn themselves out. It’s crazy. That De Blasio was the worst. You know that’s not even his real name? No. Yeah. What’s De Blasio’s real name? It’s some crazy, like, villain name.
His real name’s Mookie Betts. No. It’s like a villain.
He’s he sounds like a like a a villain. What’s his real name? It changed his name, dude.
Fitted with Warren Wilhelm Junior. William Junior. Or Bill the yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That’s a fucking that’s a evil name.
Warren DeBlasio William. Sure. Yeah. Warren Wilhelm Junior.
I like to call myself Jeff Ai. His name? Jeff Dye senior. And people ai, oh, it’s your sana? I don’t know. No. No. No. But if Ai, you know, just Jeff Dye senior.
If I were a kid, it’s ai and a half junior. Yeah. But Jeff senior.
Yeah. Just preparing for that.
You’re Joe Rogan senior. That’s perfect.
This is fucking so funny, though. The guy changed his name to make it ethnic. Oh,
Hey. De Blasio. The main New York. Right. I’m the guy. Gaba de Gui.
De Blasio knows how to take care of you. Eat the ai. Get a vaccine. Come on. William? What happened?
Are you old man William’s kid? You know? No. No. No. No. No. That’s not me. That’s not me. Ai the
guy who pays taxpayers money to interpretive dance performers with masks on
You’re ai Alec Baldwin’s wife. You remember her? Did you ever see the Oh, that’s
Dude, it was yeah. She’s from, like, Connecticut, and she’s ai, how do you say, orange? Is it orange? I’m from Spain. She made up my bachelor. Just made up a whole like, that’s crazy. It’s so great. That’s meh crazy.
Sexually yeah. Amazing. I bet she is fun.
To pretend. Ai gal that pretends she’s a different name.
That lady that that lady’s fun.
What was I just asking? Oh, the the video where de Blasio had the performative dancers.
Listen to this. Take it from the beginning so you can hear how fucking stupid this is. Look at this. They all have masks on outside.
You need a recovery that brings back the life and the heart and the energy of this city.
of it. Look at this dance.
Do that. We’re gonna really bring back the heart and soul of New York City. We need our arts and culture back, and we need people to see it and feel it, to participate in it, to know that that essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus
To come back strong in 2021. Month after month in 2021, as you see the city come back to life, culture will lead the way. Culture.
Culture is another step towards a recovery for our city. We’re launching with a 115 street locations in all ai boroughs, and it brings stations to our neighborhoods and culture to the heart of our neighbors.
Ai wonder culture is How many of those 115 people in a 115 neighborhoods shot at those dancers? Yeah.
Although, when I think of New York City, I do think of people spazzing out in masks like that. Sai do think of them going like this, like, on drugs asking me for money. That’s what I think of when I think of New York.
This is peak woke. This is absolute peak woke insanity. Stupid, shitty, out of rhythm dancing to terrible music while everybody’s wearing masks ai, and they spent money on this. And this was his way of bringing the city back through culture.
It’s peak woke. This is this I think this moment, this video, this is the historians will look back at this. Like, this is, like Yeah. This is when they clearly lost their fucking mind. The biggest metropolitan city on Earth, The one. Right. If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
That retard is the mayor. A 100%. And this is what he’s doing with the taxpayer ai. Wally’s got the whole city shut down. Yep.
And he wanted to defund the police.
believe that. People riot and smash windows and steal things. We need to bring our culture back.
Yeah. You need to leave the you’re terrible at this job. But people are gonna go, oh, you believe that? That wasn’t real. You’re gonna vatsal at it. Ai? Yeah. Yeah. They’re gonna go, oh, come on.
Peak woke insanity. If ai different that at any other time in history. Yeah. If that was in 1990 and the mayor of New York had people dancing with masks on in the street, everybody, like, what the fuck is this?
Someone bully them immediately. What ai? Like, what is happening? How
did you lose your fucking mind? But they that was when everybody was so confused and so mentally ill. I think as a society, we mentally had a cold. We’re all like,
No one felt healthy. The whole country was mentally ill, like, legitimately.
I And that’s that’s how they pulled it out. Yeah. That’s people You know what they’ll say to each other? They’ll go, oh, that was 2020, dude. Because they’ll dismiss it as crazy. They’ll go, oh, that was that’s different. That was 2020. As fucking he’s gonna bring up 2020 again.
That was 40 months ago. Right. Meh it go.
Exactly. Where’s the apologies? What’s the big deal? Where’s the, hey, we were, meh, you know, maybe we were wrong Yeah. About that. When when are you ever gonna hear that?
Not only do they not admit that they were wrong, but now they’re the victims. Yeah. You know, everybody else is spreading misinformation, and we have to censor online speak. How what about you guys? You got us into the Iraq war with ai, you cunts. I’ve been wrong all the ai,
and I just go, yeah. They go, oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t I’ve been wrong on this fucking podcast right now. Congratulations. But, like, the left will just go, no. That’s different. Like, I’m, like, just can you just at least sai, we’re sorry for calling you a a super spreading jerk because you wanted to leave your house to get coffee?
Yeah. They were wrong about everything, and they gaslit the whole fucking world. It’s cruel. With it. And they got away with it. And they almost got away with demonizing their political opponent and putting him in jail. They almost got him in jail.
Oh my god. They came real close. Yeah. That’s so scary.
Convicted him 34 felonies for things that aren’t even felonies.
Well, and also people can’t even tell you what those felonies are. They just it’s more fun. It’s more fun to call someone a felon. Yeah.
Well, that’s why you got convicted in the 1st place. It was all political.
It was like name calling.
The whole world just lost its mind in 4 years. In 4 years, everybody just it was, like, there was so many contributing factors of the hatred of Ram, and then there was the coronavirus, the chaos, and then The
The George Floyd thing, and then Biden seems to be dead, and he’s still around the country. Like, what’s happening?
And then, you know, and then now, finally, when Trump won, it was, like, the first time in a long time. I was like
Maybe we’re gonna be okay.
We see the stuff that he’s saying
about the competition. Optimistic about it. Yeah.
This is, like, what most logical, sensible people have been saying.
Well, ai also, like like, the the double standard is just really fascinating to me is, ai, like, what’s the Bosa guy from the 40 niners? He comes in, like, while they’re interviewing the guys that, were the stars of the game. He runs up and puts his MAGA hat on, and then he, like, leaves.
And everyone’s ai, well, he’s gonna have to be fined for that. Like, you can’t make political statements. I’m like, I don’t know if you remember that BLM that was, like, on the field, like, all their helmets
not a political statement. Political. Yeah. It’s a cultural statement more than it’s a politician you’re supporting. There’s a big difference between, like,
ai media. Political. Stop, don’t shoot. Is it political?
Well, it’s not political in a sense where someone’s running for office. So there’s a difference between, like, you’re promoting someone running for office while it’s on television and they don’t want you doing that on television. The other thing is, like, you’re taking a a cultural stand. It’s a different thing. It’s got political aspects to it. It’s political in nature.
It’s supported primarily by the left. Right? Okay. But it’s not the same as
not vote for so and so. Okay.
Right. But if you were if he had a vote for Harris hat on, I bet ai wouldn’t give a fuck.
I don’t know. Difference. Yeah. But that is interesting. Like, I remember seeing that going, we’re gonna have to ai those other players who wore defund the police on their things and Yeah.
You know? Little different. It’s it’s different. It’s a social issue, but I think the point is the same. It’s ai these guys are you it’s also it’s like how many of these fucking dudes who do this stuff just do it because they know they’re gonna get social media cred
and Instagram. That’s tough to figure out too.
Yeah. There’s a lot of that in the world today. Ai, when people know that you can say certain things, meh a it’s hard to know what you really think.
Ai. I’ve gotten accused of pandering ai there. Like, oh, he’s pandering to the right or whatever. Pandering. You know? Finesse Mitchell goes, you’re going real political lately to me. And I was like, well, I’m just saying what I think. Also, like, I’d tell you this, like, too.
It’s ai, when I was in Seattle, you know, and I was, like, making jokes, like, nobody goes, wow. You’re really leaning into this left stuff. You know, ai, like, when comics are going up and talking about all the things they talk about, I don’t go, oh, trying to make that Obama money, Ai, like, no.
They just are saying what they think.
Nobody ever accuses people of pandering until you do it, like, on the conservative side. Well, people Then they think you’re pandering.
People do like when they catch people pandering, though.
If you can catch them, but how do you know?
Well, they like to accuse people of pandering if they disagree with what that person says. Yeah.
Bingo. And our community, like, as far as stand up comedians, has been very left leaning. Yeah. Always. And I’ve never once gone, oh, you’re pandering to fit in here, or you’re pandering to get on The Tonight Show, or you’re pandering to get on Jimmy Kimmel. Definitely do though. For sure. But I never accuse them of that because how am I supposed to know if they really feel like that way or not?
I really don’t care as long as it’s funny. Right. If you you’re you’re pandering, but it’s really hilarious. But the problem with meh, what what I really get grossed out by is claptor.
Oh, yeah. I’m guilty of it sometimes lately, for sure, just in certain scenarios. I’ve done it. Yeah.
Where people just the only one sai things that people are gonna clap and agree to is to get the ai. Like, hey. You missed a whole part of this whole formula. We’re all participating in here. This is a comedy club. We’re coming here for funsies. 100%. Yeah.
Yeah. And I think also too, it’s ai that’s why it’s hard that’s why it’s really rough to accuse someone of it. Yeah. Because you don’t know. Like, what is the difference between pandering and just playing to a crowd?
Ai you go, oh, hey, Joe. You gotta read the crowd. Right. Well, what’s the difference between pandering and reading the crowd? Yeah. I guess reading a crowd is pandering. So then, I guess, yes, in a way, I’m a guilty of it, but we all are.
Yeah. I guess. I’ve never been one for reading a crowd. I was like
Let’s find out. I like that. Let’s find out how much of this stuff works.
In Madison, Wisconsin, they go did or, no. I was in, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Somewhere in Wisconsin. The the people have to show, I bet you don’t do that material in LA. I go, damn sure I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I do this material in LA for sure.
Yeah. People have this bizarre idea that you change your act depending upon who’s in the crowd. Right.
know how hard it is to come up with all
this stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I
I feel like fucking 6 months to come up with 20 minutes.
Hard of yeah. One new joke needs to be blossomed into a thing. It needs to be watered. But I will say, like, I’ll change you know, read a crowd, like, if it’s a corporate event, I’m gonna do different I’ll do different words of the same bits and things ai I have to, like, I have to adjust.
Yeah. Oh, that’s a different gig, though. Right? Yeah. The corporate gig is just, only, like, hiking up my skirt and stick my ass up there. Dude, that’s all it is.
That’s the real luxury of being a successful like, as successful as, you know, a lot of you comedians are.
You don’t have to do that. You don’t have to do that. The corporate gig I
don’t have to, but I still get offered it and I say meh, and I’m going, oh, stuff.
Yeah. Ron White did one. He goes, I did it because they offered me a fuckload of money. It was the worst experience I ever had in my fucking life.
you do it? You shouldn’t have done it. He was it was fucking terrible.
Yeah. It’s stressful. Yeah. It also is kind of sai, though. I kind of crave those moments where I’m, like, nervous again. Ai the like, in February when I came and did mothership for the first time, I was, like, oh, this is exciting behind the curtain. I’m a little nervous. Yeah.
I’m a little nervous to go out there. You’re up in the balcony ai I’m going, oh, I’m a little, like, I like this. Like, the first time I did The Tonight Show, I had all these, like, butterflies. Like, that was I like I live for those ai of moments. So, like, you know, sometimes I’ll take it corporate. I’m going You should do it live. I’m pretty nervous. I’d love to.
Yeah. That’s I’d love to. That I did that because it made me nervous. I I said no to it at first. Really? Yeah. I was like
Yeah. But then I thought, oh, why are you being a pussy? Then I called my manager back. I ai, don’t say no yet. Let me call
you tomorrow. I called him the
next day. I’m like, alright. We’re good. Let’s ai.
I love it. I think that’s the future.
Well, it’s definitely you prepare for it more, and you think about it in a different way than a regular show. Like, I I prepared so much more than I ever do normally.
We didn’t have to sit around approving edits from people at a big corporation with a bunch of laptops who aren’t creative who go Yeah. Maybe this bit. And you go, I’m the comedian. Why are you editing that? And so, like, I think live once. The future. I had to
do that once with the Comedy Vatsal. I had a Comedy Central deal to do a special and I bailed on it.
Yeah. Just after the phone call. Like, you know, can’t do this.
It’s ai you can’t say that. I’m like, why not?
we talking about? Do you guys want funny or not funny?
Like, it’s just It’s not that big cable.
They’ve changed their standards though. And then, like, by 2014, I got away with a lot.
a lot when I did a Comedy Central special in 2014. But they now I don’t even know what they make anymore other than South Park.
do they even have South Park anymore?
I’m not sure if they’re making new episodes, but they have that. They play a lot of reruns of things, and then they also have all those daily shows and all that stuff does good
for them. Daily shah. Of course. But, like, they used to have so many shows.
I know. I just don’t think TV can compete with Internet anymore.
No. And they had an app too. I know Comedy Central had an app for
a while. I don’t I don’t know if they still have that running.
They still have a Comedy Central app?
You wanna hear a good story about
the They hold it in the Paramount, I believe.
That makes sense. And that’s where the new South Park episodes are. Right?
What’s that comedian’s name that, Joe List just made a documentary about? Gosh. He’s a great guy from Boston. He now lives in the Keys of Florida. He’s a Boston comic, kind of a legend. Tom Dustin. Tom Dustin. Yeah. He there’s a great Tom Dustin story in Boston where the women that ran Comedy Central were, like, in the crowd. And, it’s like a showcase thing.
And the owners are, like, just keep it clean. This is you know, that’s the thing. And Tom Dustin is already
kind of a controversial guy ai
as, like, the Ai was ai, you know, you know our reputation here, and we’re letting you do this because we wanna help you, but, like, play ball. And so Tom Dustin goes out there, and he’s struggling a bit. And then he and just in the middle of the set, he just decides, I don’t wanna do this. You know? Like, I don’t wanna jump through these hoops.
So he goes, I heard Comedy Central’s here, and everyone claps. And he goes, how many fat, bearded, unfunny fucks are you gonna put on the network this year? And everyone’s, like, mortified. And then he’s, like, like, he, like they’re lighting him. Get off the stage. Get off the stage. And then, he he ram his ai.
That’s it. I’m editing it. And then he comes back, and he goes, oh, I forgot. You’re all a bunch of n word cunts. Woah. Yeah.
Just says that to the the audience. And the ai like because he just wanted to stick it to the comedy club and the and the people at that. Yeah. That’s the guy. Tom Dustin. Yeah. He’s a legend, dude. Yeah. Great fucking funny ai, dude.
He’s, you know, he’s grinding. He’s grinding it out. 1 of those Boston boys.
And where does he live now?
Now he lives in, the he started a comedy club in Key West.
What’s it called? And because I know there’s
is a comedy club in Key West that a lot of people go down to. Supposed to be a fun gig.
Doug does it all. Just stand up does it. I know Swartzon I don’t know if Swartzon’s done it, but, I know Swartzon was down there when I was down there.
So he just works his own club?
Yeah. Just made made his own started his own club. He’s happy. Pretty cool.
Comedy Key West. You ai did it in different ways.
Oh, yeah. There you go. Ram talent.
Pretty cool. Fucking take a trip to Key West.
Be fun to do a gig down there just for funsies.
Yeah. That helped him out a lot too.
It’s a fun area. Those people are wild people. I mean, that’s been a wild place for a long ass time.
Very uncharted territory.
Yeah. Kinda like, you know, nomads. Yeah. Fucking
It’s pretty cool. Sai type shit there. Yeah. And you can’t just fly into the Keys. I mean, I mean, if you can, I didn’t know that you could because I had to drive? Dave Williamson drove me for, like, 3 hours. Like, we like, how long have we been in the Keys? He’s ai, the gig’s up here. Don’t worry.
That’s well, I do. Yeah. I I think that’s how they get there, actually. Have you done cruises? Been on cruises? No? No. Yeah.
Not into it. Uh-uh. Yeah. No. Well, you know what’s funny about the cruise ships, while we’re talking about, like, corporate corruption? It’s international waters. So, like, the casino you kill you. Well, the casino, you’re like, this kind of is this ai feels unfair. And they’re like, sai. Who are you gonna complain to?
No one. There’s no pit boss
that goes, don’t worry. This is all sanctioned
ai there. They get you drunk and steal your money.
Oh, and they’re the games are rigged. They just just speak. You go, I would like to talk to the casino commission. They go, shut up. You’re in the middle of the ocean. You know? And you talk to the guy that works there. You’re like, hey, buddy. How much do you, you know, make?
And they’re like, I make, like, a dollar a week or what. You know? Like, it’s just some crazy thing. You got. They’re they’re just allowed to
do that? They give them free food and a bed.
Yeah. And the guy more than where I
you know? How about those folks that, like, live on cruise ships? Do you know those certain folks that gave up their house and ai just live on a cruise ship all year round?
I will sai, and I promise I’m not trying to be contrarian here because I love Tim Dillon. I love, like, all these guys who will shit on cruise ships, and they’re right. Every bit of criticism that my favorite people in my life criticize about cruise ships, the other side of that coin is some people just wanna eat shit and look at things.
They wanna be fed there are some people it’s nice for my dad. You know, like, he’s he’s happy to just go, oh, okay. What what are they playing? Rush Hour 2? Alright. Like, he it’s okay. Yeah. Those people are enjoying it.
Sure. It’s sai vacation. Yep. A vacation
whole bunch of people Sunburned y’all sitting around. You got water slides Yeah. And fucking all
kinds of shit to do. And Yeah. Yeah. It’s fine for ai. I get it. Yeah.
It’s not my brain. Right.
I don’t wanna do it. I don’t sync up that way.
Ai for me. Yeah. But then every 3 days, you get to waddle your fat ass off the boat and see, you know, Puerto Rico for 3 hours, and then you get back on the boat. Some people, that’s that’s a pretty cool deal.
I don’t wanna perform on those things.
How many times have you done it?
Oh, I’ve only been on a cruise ship, like, probably three times, and I got, like, some special deal. Were
you doing stand up or were you
I got to do stand up. Yeah. Ew, Joe. What a thing. Oh. One of the other comics, Tom Cotter, goes, you don’t be here. I know Tom Cotter. Tom’s awesome. He was the other comic on the boat. He saw that I was doing it. He goes, dude, you don’t wanna be on here. He’s like, go get the rest of your life to be on a cruise ship, like, if this is where you wanna end up.
And and it it he was speaking to the comedy aspect of it. Like, it was just pretty That’s a dark statement. Depressing. Yeah. Because Tom’s my age. Tom’s awesome.
I’ve known Tom since we were open micers.
Yeah. The first time I ever went to an open mic night, I Tom on stage.
Really? Yeah. I just found out that Greg Fitzsimmons was a Boston guy.
He started speak after me. Really? Yeah. We both started together.
Do you consider yourself a Boston guy?
Yeah. That’s where I started.
Yeah. I think you develop a a kind of sense of comedy and of urgency and, like, the audience’s attention span and, like, the comics from Boston have, you know, at least back in that day, they had shah material. They’re Oh, yeah. Like, the you there were too many good comics.
It was sai it was also ai a real it was a real pressure cooker because you had these guys that were these national level comics that could have been some of the best comics in the country, but they never left Boston. Right. And so you’re always working with these guys, the Steve Sweeney, Don Gavin, Kevin Knox, Lenny Clark. They were monsters.
Yeah. Lenny would have been pissed if he didn’t say him right there.
Oh, he’s a monster. He was the first guy or the second guy, actually, I ever get paid to open for.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are rock stars, and then they stayed put. And so you guys have to compete with the rock stars.
Exactly. So Lenny got out and he did a lot of TV shows and a bunch of stuff, but a lot of those guys ai stayed put and they they were still fuck like Speak Sweeney. He’s to this sai, one of the the greatest killers on stage I’ve ever seen in my life. They got
the day. I mean, destroyed. And Boston did a dirty thing. They did a dirty thing. The dirty thing was, like, say if you’re a famous comedian and you’re coming to play Nick’s comedy stop for the weekend ai Billy Crystal Yeah. They would put on Don Gavin
Oh, just Barry. Kevin Knox, Steve Ai.
Oh, it was hell. Mike Donovan.
And they would just eat shit.
And they would love that these guys would eat shit.
They bring in a head they pay him all this money to go perform at this club. This is a club, by the way, that would pay you in coke or cash.
Oh, yeah. That’s old days. Yeah. Right there. I’ve only read about that, which makes me so happy. Like, you want coke, money, or just coke, or just money?
Back in the day, there was a club that used to do that.
And I I think probably more than one.
I mean, these were partying people.
I would hear about that all the time.
No. They all got hit up, though.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ai paid cash. Well They
remember opening for Greg Geraldo as, like, the club that I started at. Like, we were he just used the open micers as free openers and, ai, and also, like, pick up the comedian at the airport. And we wanted to pick up Greg Geraldo and Chris Porter, all these we were excited to pick up the comics from the airport.
But that was his way of not having to pay a car service to pick up the comics from the airport.
Oh, the club owner did that?
Yeah. The club owner do it. And then but then he would also be like, you guys are all gonna do short sets in front of the headliner, which we’re excited to do, but that also means he doesn’t have to pay us to open. So he doesn’t have to pay for a minute
So it was a trick, but we were happy to be part of the trick because we we just wanted stage time. Sure. You get to hang out with Greg Giraldo. How cool was that?
Yeah. It felt like that. Yeah. And I was happy with the trade. Yeah. You know, that stage time is valuable. But and I got to meet all, like, the my heroes, you know, that came through. And I remember Greg Giraldo. You know, he’s tore he he’s he’s clean now. He’s trying to be an honorable husband, and he he’s, you know, he’s got the fit.
And he would just be ai, you know, Jeff, if this was back in the day, we would’ve been knee deep in coke. And I’m like, let’s do that now. Ai, why like, why? Why do I how did I miss it? You know, like, I’m I’m reading about all these tales.
It’s unsustainable. Yeah. The only guy who’s been able to sai in partying for ai career is Stan Hope.
Yeah. Well or they die. Well, Dangerfield was doing it till the end.
He did till the end. He was smoking pot and doing lines to
the very end. Yeah. But he was committed.
Yeah. Well, what what this is comedy.
The the notes in the Love
you saw me browsing those last night. I was pretty into that. Yeah. How’d you get them?
His wife his wife gave them to us.
Yeah. Whitney knows his ai. And when she found out, we’re opening up the club.
I love that. Yeah. I love stuff like that.
I wanna do something like what he did, where he had Rodney Dangerfield and Friends, where he did those, HBO shows.
Oh, yeah. Which introduced you guys?
World to, like, some of the best comics. I wanna do something like that.
You’d help a lot of ai. Let me tell you.
Because Doing that, like, from the mothership would be fucking amazing.
That would help a lot of guys.
I think there’s guys out there that that could use it too. There’s guys out there that have, like, 10 minutes of murder. Ai just put those 10 minutes of murder together and, you know, have 4 or 5 guys on a show and have some fun.
Would you be able to commit to picking the guys you like as opposed to the guys that Netflix wants you to plug? No.
If I was gonna do Joe Rogan and Friends, it would have to be people that I really think
Whether I know them or not. Like, that’s what I really admire. And that’s what what he did, what Rodney did was different than anybody else other than Carson who wasn’t really a comedian. Right? So Johnny Carson was the way that everybody got famous. You got on The Tonight Show Ai
the new Carson by the way.
get to sit next to Carson, ai, holy shah. I’m sitting next to Carson and, like, he likes you so much. You made it. You were ai in comedy clubs after vatsal. And traveling around the country and, you know, these guys like Rich Jenny did, like, dozens of
Yeah. Rich Jenny was great. Amazing. A very unhappy man, but, like, a talented man.
Super depressed. Yeah. But then you had Bryden. And what Rodney did is he introduced people to the HBO speak comedians. So these weren’t comedians like tonight show clean comedians. These were guys like Robert Schimmel, Dice Clay, Bill Hicks, Sam Kinison, Dom Ai, killers, Lenny Clark, killers killers. Yeah.
And, like, headliners already, like and then they all got HBO specials. Love it. And they be they all became, like, national talent and, like, people that would see them everywhere. But it all came out of Rodney because Rodney had this desire to introduce these comics to the rest of the world. Love that. Nobody else was doing that.
And I love that. That’s, like, that’s how you help people. Yeah. It’s by going, hey. I know this guy isn’t famous. He doesn’t have a sitcom. Yeah. But I right? I’m I’m funny. Here’s the guy that I think is funny. I was thinking, I think our Rodney Dangerfield is David Tell.
Joke, joke, joke, joke, just crushing killer. I think our Larry the cable ai is Theo Vaughn. Like, you know, like, it’s got the voice and the things and the you don’t know what is a story and what is a joke. Right. But, you know, our, Eddie Murphy’s Kevin Hart. You can cut you know, our normie is our Ram McDonald is kind of a Mark Normand.
Like, we have these kind of next guys. Sort of.
Ai think they’re all their own thing. They
Yeah. I mean, I don’t really think it’s our this or other. I don’t think about it that way.
Well, you don’t think styles influence people?
Yeah. They definitely do. For sure. For sure. I think, you know, like, if you listen to Steven Ai, then you listen to Mitch Hedberg.
Yeah. That and that’s great.
Yeah. That that’s that beautiful. Absurdest, non sectors.
Yeah. Oh, I’m very inspired by Norman, Patrice, and Simpsons. Ai, if you watch my act, you can go I can I know all the things this guy watched
for the first it tells his own thing? Like, it tells I think he’s one of the greatest of all time. I really do.
I sai him at the mothership 1 night. I came in just to watch the set. It was amazing.
And he’s so in the groove. He’s just this meh master
stage where every every beat is perfect. He’s a master.
He’s so good. He’s so good at just talking shit too when he has everybody come on stage with him. He gives everybody a microphone that just starts shitting on him.
Yeah. He’s the best. He he also, like, has still, like he still maintained people like when you don’t change. You know? Like, if you’re a fat celebrity, you better stay fat. We don’t wanna see you skinny. Right. You know? And if and if you’re a skinny person, you get fat.
They go, what happened? You know? Like, we don’t like any that’s why kid child stars are doomed, because they’re gonna have to change, and you’re sana, I liked him when he was a cute kid. You know? What’s but I think, the same thing is true with, like, Atel. He still looks like he’s broke. Yeah. You look at Atel, you’re ai, that guy.
he ai close? Sai meh dresses the same way every time you see him. Even ai it’s speak, he’s wearing a a it could be 80 degrees outside. He’s got a jacket on.
And ai a do rag and a hat? Like, he’s just He’s bizarre. I love that. And I love ai, like, you’re like, is he okay? Like, that’s one of the best comedians in the world. He’s crushing it. Yeah.
But he’s really in his own little world. Like, he really does still read newspapers, and he writes jokes in a a coffee shop and his flip phone. Yeah. He texts you.
Nope. From a flip phone? I didn’t know that. Every
Ai time I get a text from him, I appreciate it because I know how long it took
to make. These fucking things take forever. And he was
in here in the studio. He was sitting there. He had text on me. He’s going, do do do do
do do do do. That was like, what are you doing? Yeah. You’re like my dad. That’s wild.
But he’s right. Ai? If you don’t wanna be connected to that world, you don’t wanna be influencing, just stay in the zone. And who’s better at staying in the zone than him? Nobody. Yeah. Who’s better at coming up with new material? Nobody. Yeah.
He so he’s just, like, found this area to exist in. Yeah. He’s the best. I’m good. Yeah. I’m good.
I love it. I I think he’s one of the greats. So I’ll or we agree that he’s one of the greats. I had a a couple of friends. This is a long time ago. We just went to a theater show. We saw this comic. It wasn’t very funny. They love to do that.
Oh, I saw the special. It sucked. You know? Like, they love to shit on it better than just going, we enjoyed it. And so I go, oh, who’d you see? And they go, Ai can’t remember his name. But we’ll we’ll we’ll text you if we can remember or whatever.
And I was like, okay. These are good friends of mine. And so then, like, later on, they’re like, oh, it was Dave Vatsal. And I go, oh, you were wrong. You you are just wrong. And they’re, like, no. It was really bad. I go, wrong. You’re wrong.
There’s just no way that that is and I think that that’s, like, the disconnect of, like, maybe a theater show. Well, also Or like a Netflix special. Were you talking
to your friends? Were you looking at your phone?
They wanted some crowd work or something. I don’t know what they expected, but I was ai, you’re wrong. Like, that’s one of the greatest Yeah. I think sometimes if a venue is too big, you know, and the person’s also like, maybe that’s there’s a disconnect there.
Maybe. But I don’t know, but this usually screens. Yeah. It’s people have shitty tastes.
Yeah. I couldn’t believe it.
Yeah. I’ve heard things like that before about other comedians that I think are awesome. Like, shut up.
Well, also the stadium’s laughing and going, this ai the best, and then ai dumb friends are gone.
Cheap jokes. Maybe my favorite kind.
Like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. I like a good cheap joke. Yeah. Exactly.
me laugh. Did it work? Yeah. Cheap laugh. Yeah. Exactly.
I’m not yeah. I’m not necessarily a connoisseur. I’m just here to have a good time.
Well, that’s I do think that’s a good thing too about taste. Like, I think it was in Dave Grohl’s book. He was like, oh, you like, I’ll drink shitty coffee from, like, a gas station, but also appreciate, like, a nice espresso. Ai think that’s a good way to, like, think about even, like, jokes. Yeah. I’ll take a one liner, a cheap joke. I’ll take a story, a misdirection.
Just let me make me laugh. Yeah.
I like the good stuff and the bad stuff.
Yeah. But the thing that’s hard for comics is to maintain an audience enthusiasm. Right? Like, to watch comedy, like, and appreciate it ai you used to before you were a comic.
Because you you know the tricks and this it’s one way to, you know, ai, when you see someone who’s doing hacky stuff, you’re like, yuck. But just fun. Just have a good time. Yeah. Don’t start breaking down someone’s bits or critics. Sai comics, they they can’t laugh.
They’re watching things and everything is like, Sai don’t know. Yeah. I think it’s like a little extra time to get to
this joke. Could’ve edited that out a little bit. Mhmm.
You start ai, you know, too much.
Right. You you’re not an audience. Ai did that early at Police Ai.
Sai mean, like, when I was, like, passionate, obsessed with comedy open ai, I would be ai, you know, so and so has a bit about that subject. And it’s like, yeah. Like, we we’re all talking about the same subjects, you know. But I would be the guy that would be like, well, you shouldn’t do that because Daniel Tosh has a thing, you know, like, but it was all bullshit.
It was just me being so passionate about it that I was over
Well, you’re probably applying those standards to yourself too.
Yeah. So that’s part of it. You see someone who’s ai, come on, man.
You know that fucking Gilbert Gottfried had a bit about that. Yeah. But, like, also, just you don’t wanna overthink it. I think you’re a 100% right. Like, have fun with the crowd. Be out there.
Yeah. And just be able to enjoy different kinds of comedy too. Just sai some people just can’t and there’s so many people particularly left wing comics. Like, comedy has to ai up with their ideology or they just won’t they won’t get into it. They can’t.
I used to see that with Dice Clay. That was the big one. And we were talking about this last night because, like, I came in as, like, a Dice Clay fan when I was a kid. Mhmm. And by the time Dice had gotten kicked off of MTV and it was, like, in fashion for comedians to call him sai sexist pig and, like, this guy is ai it’s a character.
Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah.
Also, it’s, like, shut the
And then, there ai there was, like, so much jealousy. There was a lot of jealousy about him too because he was the 1st comic that ever sold out arenas. Mhmm. So he was selling out arenas when everybody else was, like, struggling to, like, fill a weekend at a little comedy club. Like, what? Yeah.
And these guys all started with him and and he was one of those guys that got on running Dangerfield speak and just took off.
he did his own special. I think it was just I think it was called Ai Rules and that special took off and then, dude, he was everywhere and it wasn’t it was different than any other kind of comedy because everybody knew the nursery rhymes and they wanted to say it with them.
The hits. So it was like going to a concert. Yeah.
You know, what’s in the bow, bitch? Oh, and everybody go, yeah. Yeah. Which different. If anyone was to criticize, you know, like, I know a lot of the old dogs in Boston won’t be ai, these guys aren’t doing anything different, but Right. That’s different. Yeah. So you get something that’s different that’s working, and then people will kinda get mad. They were mad.
Like, you claimed you wanted something different, and it’s working. It’s working, and it’s different.
Just because you do a different thing, like, if you’re an observational comic, comic. Yeah. Because you do a different thing, doesn’t mean that that thing that all
tens of thousands of people are screaming and cheering for is wrong. Right.
That’s that’s a crazy way of looking
you a great example. I was at Skankfest, right, this year in Vegas, which what a treat and so grateful to them for having me. So I don’t ever wanna make it sound like I’m not grateful. But I went and watched, Carrot Top, Scott Thompson. Right? I went over to I went over to the Luxor. I I’ve watched the shah.
And then I come back to Skankfest, and I was like, oh, we were at Carrot Top. You know? But and people were ai, Carrot Top? I was like, he’s better than all of us, just so you know. He’s He’s funny. It’s great, Joe. 90 minutes of not missing.
It was, relevant as far as, like, he was doing topical things. He he had a p ditty joke that happened, like, the night before I saw him. Like, he had, all the you know, it wasn’t all props. There was a lot of topical stuff, tons of Trump stuff, political stuff. There was, like, 3 like, maybe a 1 minute segment where I was, like, you know, because I was going in with an open mind.
Like, if it’s gonna be shit, I’ll say it’s shit. And if it’s great, I’ll say it’s great. You know? And there was, like, there was, like, a, like, a one little chunk that I was, like, that’s a little hacky, and it’s, like, you know, a Vegas Luxor joke about how, like, oh, they made it a a pyramid because if you try to jump out the window, you’ll just end back up at the casinos.
That’s kind of a I’ve heard that kind of thing. But then I started thinking about it. I was, like, no. He probably wrote that. He’s been doing this for 29 sometimes you watch prior. It’ll be like, black women are like this, white, and you go, that’s hacky. No. He did it first. Right.
And so in my mind, I was like, 90 minutes of not missing, and he’s the nicest guy in the world
And he’s crushing it. It’s a great, great, great show.
Well, he was a guy that in the early days when he was taking off,
Yeah. Everyone shah on, including Hicks. Hicks had a whole bit about Carrot Top.
Which sucks because he’s so good.
It was just a jealousy thing. It was just shitting on the guy who’s doing this thing that you think is somehow another coloring outside the lines.
Didn’t make any sense. And then he also kind of was alienated from everybody because he did then he did a residency in Vegas. He was, like, one of the first big guys to just do it. He’s been in Vegas forever. 29 years. That’s so crazy. Yeah. That’s a long time.
And that means it must be pretty good. Like, it was He does well. Oh, man. I want you to see have
you seen it? Really nice guy. Yeah.
I shah it. Oh, you saw it. I saw it.
It’s so good. And I couldn’t he was couldn’t have been more humble. And, like, it was just, like, such a nice guy. And I I I Ai said this to him. I wanted him to hear it that, like, you know, all the hate that my, like, comedy friends do is just because it’s become a thing. Yeah.
It’s not because it’s real. So, like, I think this happens in life. Like, people go, oh, Henry Winkler. Jeff, you worked with Henry Winkler. Isn’t he the nicest guy in the world? Yes. Henry Henry Winkler is the nicest guy in the world, but so are a lot of people.
But we’ve learned Henry Winkler is the ai. Hence, we just repeat it. You know? Oh, Taylor Swift only sings about her ex boyfriends. Every musician sings about their exes. Why is that Taylor Swift’s thing? Well, she’s got a lot of But it’s just something we’ve heard and we repeat as, like, a hacky thing.
And I think that’s the same with Carrot Top. It became hack. It became, like, a trend to make fun of him, but, like, he didn’t deserve it. That act is killer.
Yeah. There’s a lot of that. That’s Trump as a Nazi. Right.
Yeah. It’s not fair. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. There’s a lot of that. There’s narratives. There’s headlines, clickbait narratives that just meh spread.
It’s easy to define people in a certain way.
They’ll say, oh, I I I see it in, like, small thing. Oh, you know, you swallow 10 spiders spiders a year. Then they don’t. What are you sleeping outside with your mouth open? What are you talking about? Why are people repeating these things that aren’t oh, you know, you lose a 1000000 hairs a month. You’re like, no. You don’t.
Like, where are these things being repeated or perpetuated?
Internet. Just like we’re talking about how much Lizzo made. Yeah.
Which is like that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Which I’m probably gonna wear that a little bit. But, I think we got to the bottom of it.
Well, we probably are at least ai accurate. I just wonder who came up with that list in the first place.
Well, but that’s there’s difference between me saying something wrong on your podcast and millions of people repeating a thing that they heard about Carrot Top. You know Ai saying? Like, I just I don’t understand how that becomes a a reputation. And now this guy lives in some world where he goes, everyone hates me and even Family Guy is shitting on me. I don’t deserve this.
Well, one of the things that he said that after he came on my show, he started getting a lot of love.
He said it was way different.
of people are going to shows that had had, like, were fans of my show and then wanted to come see him and Yeah. Yeah. It’s ai he turned a corner and he should have never had to do that. I never met the guy. Right. Like, I I didn’t meet him until I did a podcast with him. Yeah.
So for meh, it was ai it was cool to just, like, just
Yeah. Just chill. Have fun with him.
Yeah. Yeah. Let him get out of that. Right. You know? Do you
When also he’s a comedian?
Yeah. He’s a nice guy. Yeah. He’s not hurting anybody. Like, he’s a sweetheart of a guy.
Right. Ai I I feel like what happened to more prop comics. They all went away because
he’s so successful. He defined prop comedy.
He’s ai Weird Al. Yeah. You don’t see parody music anymore. Right. Weird Al goes, I got 50 albums. Who’s next?
You don’t see anybody smashing watermelons.
That’s the only one. Yeah.
Well, I guess Bo Burnham does musical parody, but it’s not the same.
Sure. He does it, but he he started on YouTube. Right? Yeah. That was, like, how he’s But
it isn’t ai he doesn’t take a song. You know how, like, Weird Al would take Michael Jackson’s song sai you knew the song and then you’d repeat? That’s bad. Yeah. Yeah. Which is great.
I loved Weirdo. Sai ai thought about him a long
time. But, like, you but prop comics.
It’s it. Like, puppet comics. They they went away. Mhmm. You have Jeff Dunham, and that’s it.
What was the guy? I know you’ll know this.
Otto and George? Otto he was the
my ai. Dirty. I used to work with them.
We used to do, these prom shows at Dangerfield’s. So when I first moved to New York City, Dangerfield’s was, one of the clubs that I worked at the most because it was like first of all, I couldn’t believe it was Rodney Dangerfield’s club, and they actually filmed one of Dangerfield’s specials there.
And She was ai a fan of Dangerfield.
Oh, huge fan. And, we do these prom shows. The prom shows would start ai 7 PM or whatever it was, and they would go on until 4 o’clock in the fucking morning. And it was kids, ai, from ram Bronx and Staten Island. They’d come in on buses and limos, and they’d all be drunk. Oh, yeah.
And they would fill up these fucking little clubs with these kids, and then just want you to do the same material the next shah, so the kids leave. So ai never had the kids leave. So they would tell you, hey, you gotta stop doing new material. Do the same material every time.
I’m like, I’m not doing the same material. Why? You I’m not gonna bomb.
Because I’m not here to do my second. You can’t tell me what to do. You’ve got me here for 5 sets. If you got 5 if I look in that same drunk kid as in the front row Yeah. I’m gonna do a new set.
Yeah. That’s great. You know,
I have another 10 minutes.
Yeah. I mean, it was fucking ridiculous, but the shows would go on forever and ever, and I did a bunch of them with Otto.
Oh, wow. Ai so jealous to hear that. Ai I do you think that the Internet has a lot of Otto and George? Is it ai you could find stuff? Because the You had
to see him live because you couldn’t believe what the fuck he
He was so wild. Yeah. He would say the fucking craziest shah, and then he would say to the the puppet,
I George, what the fuck are you saying? Don’t say that.
Yeah. Which is great. You got it out, but it’s your hand. That’s the ai, here we go. Yeah.
Dude, sai funny. Dirty as does in 1988. I love it. I love that this is on the Internet.
I’m fucking uncomfortable here. Gotta take a shit and everything.
boring. I turtle waxed my dick, I was so fucking bored in there. Johnson’s turtle wax, 3 coats. I wanna see the water jumping off of it. That’s right. I got a wooden cock. I was circumcised with a pencil sharpener. At least I stay hard when I’m drunk. Clap it off your fucking hard arms.
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Ai girlfriend gave me skull last night. She did a good job when she was done. My cock looked like a totem pole, and her face looked like a glazed doughnut.
I just love the idea that, like, the premise is preposterous, but You had to see him live.
If you saw him live and you were in the room with him, it was so fun.
Oh, and that and that that’s been a like, I know everyone talks about blowjobs now, but, like, back at the time, that’s pretty, like, edgy stuff.
This is 88. Ai? Sai he was a kind of a wild dude and, you know, unfortunately, that kind of cost him a lot of substances.
Little off the rails. Little crazy.
We had a guy a couple of guys who these knuckleheads who lived in Seattle, but we looked up to him because anyone that was, you know, anyone who’s, like, an older brother or somebody in comedy was a big deal to us. And they did a thing called, robo, and he had his own Myspace page and everything. It was just this terrible robot.
It was a trash can that they just put a box head on, and the they had, like, 2 button like, the it was on a race car ai of thing, so it it could only speak, and the eyes would light up. And then when you hit, like, a thing, it would make his mouth make a little, line of lights. And the guy would just be in the back.
A comedian would be in the back reading his jokes off the notepad. Well, robo. Here it is. Robo. And the jokes were just so funny.
His head would fall off sometimes, but he’d be like, why do women wear makeup and perfume? Because they’re ugly and they stink. And then he would, like, spin around.
The bathroom to take a beep. I bet he need to get that big.
I can’t understand it. No.
Someone in there offered me some cocaine. I said, no thanks. I’m already wired. Get it?
Just terrible shit. But, like, yeah, you would just be, like, why do women get their periods? Because they deserve it. And then all you, like, spin around. And people would leave. I mean, it’s an open mic. It was not ai at least Autumn and George had, like, a sold out. This would be 2 guys just drunkenly having a good time with terrible jokes and putting it on the robot, which
is actually a really good idea.
So funny. Well, it’s cool because you
can get that robot to say things just like you can get South Park to say things because they’re not real people.
Oh, it’s not me in the back with a ai. It’s Yeah. It’s the robot.
Yeah. It’s Cartman. Right.
Oh, it’s so fun. Human. There’s a big round thing. He said one time they got booked too. Like, our vatsal, like, the first time someone tried to book them, like, hey, Rob o. We would love to have you at our venue. It’s ai, no. It’s robo. Like, it’s not like the ai might have been an automated thing or something, but they thought it was so funny that someone tried to book them off of a video like that.
That’s hilarious. I love that kind of stuff, though.
Well, somebody probably thought that was a real act. Yeah. You could take it somewhere.
You probably could’ve. I mean, someone could easily do that. Yeah. I mean, how hard is it to do?
seen that comedian on Kill Tony? What is the gentleman’s name that has, he has some sort of a neurological condition where he can’t talk, so he he has a Bluetooth speak?
I I haven’t seen him on Kill Tony, but US Comedy Club in, like, 2 weeks. Oh, that’s nice. Calendars. Aaron Ai is Aaron Belisle.
a very nice guy. Funny too.
Yeah. I know. I’ve seen this guy on AGT or something.
Right. That’s what it was. It was on America’s Got Talent. Yeah. I’ve seen him.
I, I almost did a thing after I had to follow him somewhere.
I can’t remember what it was.
Oh, but it was for, like, Louis j Gun. It was one of these shows where being mean is, like, okay. Yeah. I mean, it ai, like, Louis j Gun. It ai, like, Louis j is, like, you gotta tell your most fucked up joke first and then try to get out of the hole. And in my mind, I’m like, this sounds like a nightmare. Yeah. But they can tell us to do that. Yeah.
And every comic made the same mistake where we where we came out and went. We ai to get a you know, we you know, comics, we ai to play. We tried to get around the rules a little bit. I was going he told us we had to say the most fucked up joke first, so we all did that kind of buffer, so it just didn’t work for any of us.
But, that guy was before me. And so I thought about just recording into my phone like a thing and acting like I’m him as, like, my first thing. And I was ai, this isn’t gonna go over well. I’m just gonna
Yeah. You didn’t and that’s no one’s gonna be on your side.
Right. So but I was like, I I you meh a little more balls.
That ai incredible balls to
I mean, can barely walk, you know, can’t move his arms well. Play in your hand.
Yeah. He’s playing his hand. He’s playing
He’s been dealt that. Yeah. And he’s making the fucking best of it.
He’s ai in Key West. 100%. Yeah.
Play in your hand. Yeah. He’s you didn’t go, oh, this is bullshit. Send me money. Do you
I have to piss so bad. Alright. Should we wrap this up? Yeah. Let’s do it, dude.
Last Cowboy. Yes. Last Cowboy in LA, comes out today.
It’s out today. Right? This comes out tomorrow?
it? Yeah. Meh. So it comes out today when you if you’re hearing this. It’s on, 800 pound gorilla is the name of the production company. So, like, just go to YouTube. Ai search Jeff Dye, Last Cowboy in LA. You can find it.
Hopefully, you should I know. Well fuck your algorithm.
Yeah. We’ll see after some of this stuff.
Oh, yeah. Let’s can we watch this? Would that be alright?
It’s Ai mean, technically, it hasn’t premiered yet.
It’ll I know. But this is a little ai little trailer. Can we watch the trailer? Is that alright?
Yeah. Let’s watch the trailer, and we’ll wrap this up. Everybody go see it.
At rock bottom in Hollywood, California. That is a bad place for rock bottom because everyone is mean to you there. In Hollywood, everyone my entire career, everybody in Hollywood’s been like, you’re not even famous. I’ve never heard of you. You’re not famous. You’re not even famous. You’re not famous.
I have never heard of you. You’re not famous. You’re not even famous. Right? And then I have one bad day, and it’s ai, famous comedian, ram your score, fights cop. I’m like, god damn it.
Is a lot for Nashville. Yes. Yes. Also, Ai I’ll if I’m honest, I actually like trans women better than I like regular women. I do. Have you ever talked to a trans woman? They’re great. They’re like dudes. Just raw dogging ai. You know?
No. Music venue. Googledog. This is bryden what I’m doing right now. Hit them with the poetry. Like, oh, not the I like her. She likes naughty words. It’s probably not a smart subject to do on my first special, but, you know, like, to start it canceled. Ai.
Last cowboy. Last cowboy.
Check it out, brother. Thanks for holding meh on, man.