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#2226 – Theo Von Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the conversation revolves around the growth and authenticity of podcasts, particularly highlighting Joe Rogan’s own journey and success. The discussion touches on the importance of being genuine and true to oneself, even when engaging with high-profile guests like former President Trump. The speakers emphasize the value of maintaining authenticity in podcasting, which has contributed to the medium’s popularity and influence.
A significant portion of the episode discusses the potential for high-profile guests, such as political figures, to appear on podcasts and the unique insights they can provide. There is a mention of the possibility of Trump appearing on the podcast and the kind of revelations that could come from such an interview, including discussions about the JFK files and RFK Jr.’s role in the administration.
The episode also features a conversation about the career trajectory of comedians and podcasters, with advice on focusing on one’s strengths and saying no to opportunities that don’t align with one’s core skills. Tony Hinchcliffe is mentioned as an example of someone who should concentrate on comedy, given his success with the “Kill Tony” podcast.
Overall, the recurring theme is the transformative power of podcasting as a platform for authentic dialogue and the importance of staying true to one’s identity in the creative process. The episode encourages listeners to embrace their unique voice and leverage the educational and introspective opportunities that podcasting offers.
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#2226 – Theo Von Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Ai meh day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
These are ai conversation condoms, aren’t they?
Yeah. A little bit. Well, it’s like a a safe ram. Blocks out the world. Yeah. Conversation only exists inside your ears. You know? Locks you in. Ai I think it locks you in. That’s
I like about it. Yeah. It’s almost like
ai, football player kinda putting on their helmet.
Right. Ready to go. Ready to go.
Yo. How fun was election night at the mothership?
It was baffling, man. I mean, here, I’ll tell ai was, I mean, it was crazy. It was so much fun.
We had such a good time. That green room was so positive. Ai favorite part, at one point,
they were playing that song, You talk about a revolution. People were dancing. People were smoking weed. There was a I think there was a baby smoking weed. People there was everybody was, like, people were, like, meh it was crazy, dude.
It felt Adam and Eve were
in there. It was it there was just a lot going on.
It felt like Meh brighter. That’s what it felt like. We were we’re moving towards this insane world where we’re being controlled by liars. We’re just being gaslit left and right. We saw it all of the media. We saw it over the news. Things that were right in front of your face, they’re trying to deny. There’s just so much craziness, and then all of a sudden, the world spoke.
Did you see the map of the actual country? Like, how many places I’ve seen it before. Vote voted red?
Oh, no. I don’t know if I saw that
few cities. Even California was mostly red. That’s what’s crazy.
We had, I don’t know if I saw that. I’m trying to think of what I saw.
Tony was nervous, remember?
relax. Tony’s better be fucking nervous.
Dude, I kept just going up to him and going, Feliz Navidad to fucking get his vibe. Look at that. Oh, wow.
This is the one I saw Jamie. I’ll send this to you. It’s got music to it.
This sounds like when I got that hair surgery. You wanna talk them out? They played music in the background? No. But that it looks like that pattern.
Let me see that again. Yeah. It looks a lot like that, like a transplant. The ram. Ai micrographs.
Yeah. That’s what it looks like, man.
So what I sent you, Jamie, it just shows, like, the entire country. That ai you look at that.
That’s crazy. Interesting.
That’s crazy. There’s no blue states, just blue cities.
Well, then why do you think that that the why do you think the cities and states are so much different then?
Well, cities are always gonna be blue. It’s normal. It there’s a lot of factors. One of them is you have massive populations of people. Right? And you, when you have massive populations of people, a lot of times it’s based around universities. Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it’s ai more around Hollywood, which is equally delusional.
But most big cities are flavored by a university. Ai, Austin is flavored by the University of Texas.
That’s why Austin is progressive. Austin is for people that don’t know outside of Texas, Austin is one of the most progressive cities. Like, if you look at we voted in Austin, the city of Austin voted more for Kamala Harris than the city of Los Angeles did. Oh, wow. Really?
Ai percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles?
Well, I think a lot oh, it seems like a lot, like, a lot of Democrats I don’t know, like, a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats like, it’s I understand the a lot of the voting because it’s hopeful voting. It’s ai wishful thinking.
Well, they’re they’re feeding off of narratives. Like, you’re a good person if you believe this, but the consequences are what they’re ignoring. The pretending that the economy is in a great place, that’s crazy. Talk to anybody who’s broke. Talk to anybody who’s struggling to pay for bills and groceries.
Talk to anybody who’s trying to buy a car. The the economy is bananas right now. It’s sketchy, very sketchy. And it a lot of it is People are robbing
each other on Facebook Marketplace.
Sai lot of it is recovering from COVID, I’m sure. A lot I mean, there’s probably a lot of, blowback from that. I mean, they shut the whole fucking country down, which is just so nuts.
That was insane, man. I think that’s one of the, like but yeah. Sai mean, yeah, people are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace. My buddy was going to buy a couple walkie talkies off a guy. Right? Gets fucking mugged. Right? Really? Yeah.
He’s gonna buy a couple of,
So he meets the guy to go get the walkie talkies and the guy mugs him?
That’s, like, the 7th story I’ve heard, but it’s ai, you know, people are doing ai you know, people are resorting to crime, and that’s when it’s not good, I feel like. You know?
When people are resorting to crime.
This administration did ai I think is terrible, and this is a progressive liberal thing, is that you have these DAs, these George Soros funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime and get the no cash bail thing. And when there’s no repercussions for crime, guess what? Crime goes way the fuck up.
Oh, yeah. If I’m a criminal, and they’re like, hey. It’s crime time or whatever. Yeah. I’m gonna fucking put on my cleats or whatever. I’m gonna get out there.
Jail, and you’re just gonna get released.
Yeah. It’s ai catch and release. It’s almost like the, fishing rules or whatever.
Like, if you go trout fishing in the lake? Yeah. I mean, a little bit. You’re a fly fisherman. You used to be a cop, now you’re a fly fisherman with barbecues. Ai on the hook?
Yeah. You just put them out there.
Yeah. Those fishermen, they use barbless hooks, and then they meh the fish go.
Ai went fly fishing recently. Yeah? Yeah, man.
It it it yeah. You know what Ai did? I I thought it was ai,
me think about what I thought it was like.
It’s the more sophisticated way to go fishing.
Yes. It was like, hey, excuse me, fish.
It also requires a lot more skill.
Well, it require ai requires more patience.
You can’t, like, like, if you have a kid or whatever, you can’t do it. Like, you Right. Like, if you’re just fishing on the bank, you can have your kid and he can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do, you know. But if you if you’re in that, you have to constantly be moving it. Right. You know, it’s very kind of, like, it’s kind of homoerotic, almost.
It’s ai, hey, fish or whatever. Oh, yeah. Slailing. It’s ai, hey, fish.
Yeah. Have you ever seen those guys? It’s like, hey, fish. I’m over here. I’m over here, boys.
The least sophisticated form of fishing is ai a bobber with a worm on it.
Right? That’s the least. You throw it out there, but that’s some of the most fun fishing because that bobber starts moving, you’re like, oh shah. Yeah. Oh ai. I think we got one. Oh shit.
It’s like jaws all of a sudden.
Yeah. My grandma used to take us fishing, dude, and she would she was ai a malignant fisherman or whatever, and she would, Degenerate? Yeah. Like very malignant. She was like a staunch fisherman. Like staunch. Like, we’re fishing, you know? Oh, aggressive. You better not fucking not fish, you know?
that kind of behavior. Yes. She was very
you better fucking fish, white boy.
Woah. You know, she would kind of be like that. Yes. Very aggressive. Right? About fishing for little
Yeah. And we have to be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber, but she was really, she loved to fish.
Did she love to eat fish?
Yep. She ai to skin them and and grill them and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It was cool. Fish. Mostly catfish, bullheads. We used to fish up in, like, Spoon River up in, like, Illinois.
Do you guys use, like, chicken liver for Yeah. Yeah.
We would get out there. We’d have a little thermos full of chicken liver. Yeah. Chicken liver works, man. My grandfather would say anything, and she’d fucking look at it. I mean, he wouldn’t talk for a month after
She was the fisherman. She was. The fisherwoman.
Yeah. She was she loved to fish. I think she liked, she liked catching her own meals. Even you know, she didn’t like to hunt, but she liked to fish.
What’s that fucking dude’s name? The chubby dude that, dressed up like the devil and everybody got meh. He’s a singer. Ram. What’s that?
Smith. Sam Smith. Yeah. He he said he wanted to be a fisher them. Oh, god. Not a fisherman. A fisher her. A fisher she. A fisher them.
The the they them thing is that’s the best evidence you need that people are out of their fucking minds. You can’t be plural, you fucking idiot. Well, the
only thing I think it’s like it’s almost if you’re being plural, you’re I don’t understand it. Like, if you’re being plural, are you being, like, there’s more of me kind of? Like, that’s what I understand. Is it like an ego trip? Like, that’s, you know, like, that’s what I don’t understand about the
It’s just a way to be unique, and it’s a way to be in a marginalized community if you’re just a regular person.
So, like, if you’re a regular white person, you’re at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke woke people. But if you’re queer or non binary, now you’re in a protected group.
My buddy’s queer, actually.
Nice. What does he have to do to be queer?
Nothing. He’s cool. He’s just he doesn’t yeah. He didn’t, like, send you an email update or whatever. He’s just
Did he update his Twitter pronouns?
Yeah. He’s like a secret not secret. He’s like I don’t know. He’s just like a or I don’t even know what they call it. I gotta look at the chart or whatever.
What is queer these days? Because when I was a kid, queer was gay. If someone was queer, they’re gay. Or if you got punched in the head, then you’re on queer street. It’s like everything was confusing. Queer was confusing.
And then queer became gay somewhere along the line. But now Sai think queer is whatever you want it to be. Yeah. You could be gay, bi, straight, and then you could be pansexual.
He’s pansexual? He came out.
Damn. Came out as pansexual. I don’t know what that means.
I can barely handle whatever I am, dude, to be real honest, bro. It’s also new. Whatever I am, bro, it keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women. So whatever that one is, that’s what I am, bro. You’re theosexual. Oh, it’s fucking getting kinda heady, man. You’re theosexual.
Why are you afraid to talk to the women?
No. I don’t know. You know, I meh I I, I I think I get afraid to, like I just I’ve always I always got afraid to approach approach women. You know? Yeah.
Yeah. But, boy, you’re a handsome fellow. You’re funny. You’re successful.
I don’t know. I think something Ai just, Childhood shit? Yeah. Probably. There’s something, like, you know, just yeah. Like, I just I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy. You know, when I’m when I was a kid, I would be so nervous. Ai would yeah. I would be so nervous.
Which is interesting that you got into stand up comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous.
Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous, so that didn’t affect me.
Interesting. Because you’re nervous all the time. You’re like, fuck it. I’ll just go be nervous in front of all these people.
Oh, the audience is the when you’re on stage, the audience is just a woman. Oh,
ai, you’re just trying to get them to like you.
You’re just trying to get yeah. You’re ai, how do we get this to work out? You know?
Ai gonna get you to like me more. Who do I have to be?
The other night was crazy. Sorry. I cut you off.
The other night was crazy.
This week’s been it’s just been a crazy week. Yeah. You know? It’s been a crazy week, man.
It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was gonna happen. So you’re watching the first results roll in, and there’s, like, this weird thing. And then Trump gets way ahead, but you’re, like, you don’t wanna, like, get too hopeful. Like, how far ahead is he? He’s ahead by a 100 points.
Yeah. And you’re, like, what is it? And some channels are, like and then every channel is kinda different.
Yeah. They’re different numbers. I was getting a different number off my Apple News update than I was getting off of CNN, and then I was texting people ai, Tyler and JD Vance. I was getting a different up apparently, Elon created an app and he knew who won 4 hours before the results. So as the results were coming in before Wow.
4 hours before they called it, Dana White told me Elon was ai, I’m leaving. It’s over. Donald won. He just fucking he just fucking somehow or another.
I’m gonna go back in the pod and evaporate. I don’t
know what he’s getting where he’s pulling his data from, but he had, like, the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn’t put the results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states. Kabul is never gonna win those states, so tabulated that and, like, put it all together. Sai don’t know how he did it. Yeah.
Dana took I don’t even Sai haven’t even talked to Elon about this. I don’t know, like, the Dana translation, but Dana said he had an app and he was, like, showing him. He’s, like, it’s over. And He fucking left.
Dude just left. It’s over. Jon Jones won. He’s just saying that. He just fucking left. Dude. Yeah. I mean, the whole thing’s crazy to me. I’m so happy for, my biggest thing was I was so happy for Bobby Kennedy, man.
Because he’s the only person that I super know, like, as a human. You know? Uh-huh. He’s been a buddy of mine for years, and I’ve just known that he’s a like, I trust him. Like, you it’s almost ai you you have people that you know and that are good people. It’s like
I have to trust my own instincts at some point and know Ai know him.
You know, he’s a he’s a somebody I would vouch for.
You know, he’s a good guy, and he’s been helpful to me, like, in in moments, where I have have have struggled as a person and just bryden inspirational to me. You know, it’s like Sai know him. You know, like a friend. And so so that’s I think, like, that was something I was, like, super excited about just to see where everybody was, like, screw this guy. You know?
And to see him have a arc where it’s ai, because all he ever cared about, to meh, and I don’t know. This is just my opinions, dude. Some people everybody has their own opinions, and I’m I’m an idiot, but but he had he always cared about, like, the rivers and the ai. You know?
And then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies. Right? So for me, that all makes sense. Right? And so, like We
know where it all happened from. Right?
I was super like, that was I was super excited about.
Do you know how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs? Meh would give these speeches and he, he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers. They cleaned up these river. He was an environmental attorney. And, they were also talking about the effects of mercury poisoning in the soil and water.
And, these women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying you need to investigate mercury and vaccines. And, you know, he thought ai that is like in which most people think. You hear vaccine ai the last thing I wanna be labeled is a vaccine skeptic. Jesus Christ. A vaccine denier.
That’s like I mean, we talked about this yesterday, but it’s like Holocaust denier is number 1, but vaccine denier and election denier are, like, right under there.
And he started looking into it, particularly the MMR vaccines and and the correlation between the uptick of all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids. And so then he starts doing research on it.
And the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there’s this gigantic machine that’s protecting all of this because there’s so much money that’s being generated and most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration. They they gave them immunity to prosecution. So they couldn’t they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines came.
Yeah. That’s that’s pretty wild.
Yeah. And then, of course, these motherfuckers started giving little kids, little babies that were just born meh ai vaccines. Like, what are you doing? Like, that’s a a you get that from needles and sex. Yeah. This is a fucking pain.
Anderson’s baby, dude. I wouldn’t try it. I wouldn’t
put anything in that kid.
You know? And, no, I don’t even know if she has any kids or not. And I love Tommy Lee.
shouldn’t have I don’t know
Sorry, Don, dude. It’s a joke. What are you
gonna do? It’s a fucking joke.
Yeah. Sorry. Everything’s okay.
I feel the same way about Bobby. I don’t know him as well as I know Tyler, though. Tulsi
Tulsi is a good friend of mine. I love her. She’s great. She’s awesome person. She’s ai a a legitimate awesome person. You know, that lady, she served as a congresswoman for 8 years and the whole time shah was like she was against this divide of right versus left. She was always trying to be cool with everybody. She served overseas. She was deployed overseas in a in a medical unit, man.
So she was helping people that got blown up by the war ai. That’s where she got that crazy white streak in her hair.
Yeah. Vatsal came from the stress of being overseas working in a medical unit.
She Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It’s I guess, can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that?
No. Your body’s you can’t imagine. You know, I was just talking to my friend, Bruce, about this last ai. He’s a cop in Austin. We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the the stress that has on you. And what he was telling me is you take ai a cop that has, like, 20 years in the job, they what they see is probably 10 x what the average soldier who’s deployed sees.
Because you’re seeing murder all the time. You’re seeing car accidents all the time, suicide all the time, domestic violence all the time. You’re pulling people over. You never know if you’re gonna get shot. He goes, most of these guys are fucked up because they’re just constantly seeing this stuff constantly.
Oh, yeah. I’d be at home. I’d hear somebody open a jar of Pringles, and I’d fucking pull on them. You know? Yeah. You You
Yeah. What’s going on? What’s happening? We had a, police officer on a few years ago or about a year ago. Can you look this up, Jamie? Is that okay? I asked him to look something up.
Yes. This guy, retired police officer, sergeant Brad White. This guy was super unique. He lived in Los Angeles, but he told this story. He he he was, he didn’t have any political thoughts. He just told stories of what it was like being a police officer, and, he told the story of his first day on the job. They’re chasing a guy.
The guy runs into traffic, gets hit by a vehicle, and kills. Right? So even as it just a human being, like
You’re you’re just doing a job, but then you’re, like, trying to compartmentalize ai or how do you know, what effect did I have on this? What are my you know, like Right. He told this story of a mother had called and said that her son was, was thinking about committing suicide. Right?
The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up. He’s he’s a police officer. It’s his in, outside of Los Angeles. I think in Whittier Police Department.
I could be wrong. He shows up. The mom meets him outside. They see the sana comes into the doorway. Right?
It’s like a a glass door with another door behind it kind of takes his own life. Right? Right. Kills himself ai in front of them. So now he’s standing there with the mom. Oh my god.
Now he has to go he has to go he has to console the mother then go inside of the home. He walks ai. The door won’t open because the man’s body is there. Right? It’s sai he’s having trouble getting it open. Even just that moment, He gets it open.
Something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt, and it’s part of the ai, his brain matter. He had shot himself on the ceiling. So I know that’s graphic and stuff, but and then for the next 3 or 4 hours, he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his bat wings or whatever the whatever what
Oh, yeah. Shorter blades.
Yeah. And his brain matter.
Yeah. And it’s just ai that’s just a regular guy. You know? He might not even have finished college or something. You know? It’s like so just a baffling amount of stuff that police go through. Anyway, I was trying to just, like those are stories that stuck with me when I when I spoke with that guy. It was, like, unbelievable.
It’s just conveniently ignored by most people who never be police officers. And then that was one of the more offensive things about the George Floyd thing. All this defund the police shah, where people rose up and were saying, defund the police. Sana Ai mean, defund the police. And Kamala Harris was one of them.
She was out there tweeting, defund the police. And because of that, crime just ramped up in certain communities and so many people wanted the police back, but it didn’t it’s, you know, it’s a long process to try to and to this day, the most of these cops don’t have good morale.
They still have this this feeling of defund the police sai just a couple of years ago. Yeah. It’s hard to get people to be cops now. They don’t want that fucking job, and why would they? It’s a fucking hard job.
Yeah. And they don’t even Ai think the highlight, like, they usually they used to play, like, softball in our area against, like, the fire department. That was, like, the highlight of it, you know. It was, like, having, like, competition, you know. But I don’t even like, if you defund them, they’re not even super funded. You don’t ever see a cop with, like, a, boat or you know what I’m saying?
Yeah. You don’t sai a ai yeah.
Right. If you think about how hard that job is, like, hard jobs should pay more. Right? Yeah, dude. You know? Like, what is the I think if you paid them too meh, so then they just quit. Like, I got enough. I’m out.
Yeah. I don’t know if you ai.
Because, like, what’s harder? Being a rapper or being a cop? It’s fucking way harder being a cop.
Because But rappers get paid way more.
That’s true. Cops just I think a lot of cops will start making albums ram their cars. Yeah. But there really should be some there should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer. This is gonna happen. Watch. And makes a dope track with a cop. Right. And the and you could make a dope need of so much great vatsal.
And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department.
Yeah. Like, the cop could, like, be saying shit from behind the wheel, and you sample that. Yeah. Sample that and turn them into songs. We got them.
codes. Different codes. 5150. Isn’t that when someone’s crazy?
Oh, yeah. That’s crazy right there. That’s 50 I
think 44. Okay. Is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy nominated rapper Sacramento police officer records dupe deployment recruitment video.
Pull him up, man. What No.
I looked I just figured there could have already been one.
a Grammy nominated? Grammy nominated doesn’t impress me. Like, Grammy winning, that impressed me. Grammy nominated? Dude, my grandma won’t. You.
Yeah. My Ram nominated anybody. She liked, Travel and Wilburys. You didn’t? She I mean, I didn’t. I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, hey. They’re good. I respect that a little bit more, but that’s just me. You know? Saloni Wilson, I love. She’s great. Red Clay Strays, Stephen Wilson junior.
Red Clay Strays are great.
Yeah. There’s good music out now. It’s a good time for music because, like, you could find things so easily. You know? You don’t have to wait for the radio. You just find stuff. People send you stuff, like, in the green room all the ai. Someone will play ai, like, what is this? Shazam it, like, oh, shit.
It’s nice. Sai mean, that Shazam thing, that feature is so huge. Yeah. You know, on Google Pixel Phones, there’s an option to just have it on all the time. So anytime a song is playing, you can look down on your phone, it’ll tell you what song is playing.
They still do that? I think that’s still a feature. I think it’s only on the Google Pixel.
What was that thinking? I feel all over the place today, Joe. You ever feel like that?
Like, you haven’t been your ai. I haven’t been sleeping. Sleep well.
2 days in a row, I didn’t sleep. The ai of the election, I could not sleep. I got home. I was wired. Did you jerk off or
No. I just sat in front of the TV. I was watching professional pool, sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith. Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at, like, 3:30 in the morning. Yeah. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up. She’s like, what happened? Who won? Ai was like, Trump won in a landslide.
And then she was up. I’m like and it was a landslide. Like, it was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was gonna happen in 2022. Hey, Jamie. I’m hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020 versus the amount of people that voted, for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024, that they’re still saying it was a giant jump.
That’s that’s what I see too.
A lot of people think it’s bullshit.
Lot of there’s a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers because Biden got more votes than anybody by, like, 20,000,000. It’s really crazy if you look at the chart. Well, did,
yeah, did they say that the most people they’d ever seen at voting stations were this year? Yeah. That’s ai Sai I don’t know what the visual report is for this year, but then I ai is
the most consequential election I think I’ve ever felt.
The way people felt about it too, the people on the left thought they were convinced that Hitler was coming. They’re convinced that some right wing authoritarian is gonna come down and take away all your rights and
Well, that’s a meh that’s a lot that’s the media does that.
A 100%. But 100%. Not what he was saying, not what he did for 4 years in office. It’s all the media, and we’re all victim of it a little bit because you won’t defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him because then you’re you gotta defend the fact that, no.
He didn’t really do that. He’s not really a felon. There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. It this is just Texas.
Right? 61% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020, presidential race. But the the difference in, the numbers nationwide is what I’m interested in because the nationwide numbers were they’re pretty consistent, like, through the entire like, if you look at 2,012, it’s consistent with 2016, which is also consistent with 2024.
The anomaly is 2020. The in 2020, everything goes way up. Way up. Maybe because people were sitting at home and so bored,
and they said they said must do, you think?
Could be. Could be. Because it was during COVID. Could be they there arya lot of people weren’t working, so they did have the opportunity to vote. Voting should be a national holiday.
I agree. I don’t understand.
It’s crazy that you give some people a complication. Like, imagine if you have a shithead boss. Like, I gotta vote. Why did you vote early? Ai I was working for you, piece of shit. Yeah. Let me go.
Ai me go vote. Yeah. I mean, they give Christopher Columbus as a holiday, dude. The lieutenant Dan of the 1400, that dude gets a fucking holiday. Okay? Yeah. Why don’t you go read what what that guy did?
Let’s get rid of Christopher and they trained it to indigenous people’s day, like and the indigenous people, like, thanks after you wiped out 90% of us. Thanks for giving us a day. How about we keep that day? That’s fine. But how about we have an election, national election holiday?
more holiday. Celebrate it. It’s a great day. People can rejoice. And then I can yep. It would take a lot of stress off people too. It’s ai, today is also a day of celebration. It’s not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever. You should have a sai ai.
It should have a be a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day that election comes because everybody should be able to go vote. That’s what it should be. We should make sure we’ll talk to Trump about it, making a nationally mandated holiday.
I don’t have his number. I don’t know if you I mean, I I there’s a guy in his department have his number. We could look it up. I know some people. Yeah, dude. It was just what a I mean, just, like, what a crazy week.
Yeah. Very crazy. What well, you were one of the first guys to have him on the podcast. Did you have any hesitancy having him on at all?
Ai brother, actually, my brother’s ai brother’s a lot smarter than me, and he said, hey, man. I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on. Right? Like, you could people some people could be upset about it. Right. You know?
And I thought about that a little bit, and I was like, well, I don’t really like, I I like, I don’t know. You know? Like, I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that, and it’s like it’s hard to find a group that really embodies them. And if anything, right now, for me, it seems like Sai don’t even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties.
It doesn’t sai like, this isn’t Democrats and Republic. This is something else transmorphing right now.
Yeah. And so, I thought, like, I thought well, I think I’m I just wanna be able to have a chance to talk to this guy. You know? And the main thing for me was, like, ai, you talked about Dana White earlier. He’s really, you know, I know that you guys work together, and he you know, I knew that Trump’s brother suffered from addiction. Right? I knew that. Right?
I I I heard that or something, and I looked into it. It’s like, okay. He lost his brother. His brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that’s interesting to me. You know? And I wish that people I wonder if there’s more to Donald Trump.
Like, is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, look, try to get an emotional well like, more of an emotional well to him that’s than it seems like that’s in the public.
Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like, if you had on a guy like Trump, you arya platforming this bad person.
this was this thing. Yeah.
I didn’t think about that at all.
But it’s a it’s it’s an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people, and it’s stupid because people don’t wanna have a nuanced perspective on anybody. Ai, I’m this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris. I’m like, I bet there’s a person in there.
I bet I can get to that person. Yeah. I wanted to find that person. I don’t wanna hear all the speeches. I don’t wanna hear I was raised middle class. I don’t wanna hear any of that shit.
She’s a roller skater. You know that? No.
I would love to find that out. Yeah. I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit. I would I literally said, like, because there was a few restrictions of things that didn’t sana talk about. But I sai, I don’t give a fuck. Ai go get her in here. Like, whatever you wanna talk about. And they wanna know if I edit. I’m ai, there’s not gonna be any editing. There’s no editing.
Yeah. We’re not gonna edit. But Yeah.
That’s the same thing they asked us. Is there an edit, you know?
I just wanted to talk. I just, like, I feel ai you give someone a couple of hours and you start talking about anything. I’m sana see the pattern of the way you think. I’m gonna see the way you process ideas. I’m gonna see whether or not you’re calculated or whether you’re just free.
Or are you comfortable with you? Or do you are you projecting things? Like, she’s got 80 different accents. How do you decide which one to pull out?
Yeah. Like, she’s just like Yeah. Yeah.
She puts out different accents depending on who she’s talking to.
They should have maybe talked to a bunch of Chinese folks. I would have loved to hear that accent. I wanna see what
I do that too though. I like to meet people where they’re at. Sure. You know? Oh, if I see somebody else, you know, I’ll be like, what’s happening, my friend? You know? It’s like, I like to meet people where they are, you know?
Yeah. She did one with the Latinos when she talked with tyler Latino ai, like, this is wild. But she’s a chameleon. But if you wanna be a successful politician, that’s probably a good trait.
You know? It’s like a comedian that’s always on. They kinda get annoying, but if you wanna be a comedian, that’s probably a good trait. Sana be a politician? You should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. Ai mean
Maybe not. Maybe it’s just ai the I always feel ai the environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you’re doing in front of an audience, it’s so fake. It’s such a weird way to talk that you don’t get a sense of who the person is.
So, like, when I got to see Trump on your your podcast and you were, talking about doing cocaine, then it makes it like a owl.
Oh, god. It was hilarious. It was hilarious, but
it was ai, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out, like, who is this psycho I’m sitting here talking to?
I remember that shit. I’ll fucking make a nest in my living room, dude. That shit, boy. You fucking I’ll scoot over the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak, homie. I ai there’s nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man.
I can only imagine. Aw. You you talking to him, like, as a person is, like, almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does. Because when he’s in front of everybody talking about we’re gonna make America amazing, those are great speeches. But you don’t like, she had an amazing speech.
When I was like, she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like, scared to debate her when he says all these things. But you know what? What I always heard, if you wanna say something, say it to my face, and the whole place went crazy, and she was laughing.
I didn’t see that. Oh, it was so good. It was her best speech for sure, and it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president.
Maybe that is what what got people involved.
Biden stepped down, and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and, like, it really made you feel ai this is going to be a she’s hot.
She’s still alright. She got that thang on her, I bet. So the you know what I’m saying?
I do know you were saying. That’s why it’s so crazy.
Yeah. Because a lot of brothers love
her too. Everybody seems to love her.
Look. If their brothers like it, she got that thang on her. That’s all I’m saying. You know? Yeah.
I understand what you’re saying. But, like, that one speech was almost enough for her to win. And if she just didn’t talk other than speeches but they would’ve they needed to do a better job of the speeches because every speech was the sai. And the problem with that is, we were talking about this, like, the Internet.
You get to see that speech over and over again online, like and then people make compilations of speak. It looks Ai.
And they’re the same thing.
But it’s ai if someone goes to see your act. You know? They don’t understand, like, vatsal, like, to develop a bit, it takes months months months to really, like, put it together where it’s ai rock solid. And you’re gonna do it the same way or slightly different every night.
And if someone comes to see you
and goes, Theo’s so full of shit, man. He told us the other day that it was just the other day. Yeah. But but ai, he said it 3 weeks later. It wasn’t just the other day. It was 3 fucking weeks ago, dude. You’re just you’re repeating the same shit.
You got too many leap years, white boy. Yeah. And shit like that. Exactly.
So that’s what they feel about, like, a presidential candidate that’s telling the same speech over and over. Well, hey. You’re not supposed to go see all those speeches.
But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But the thing is about Trump following the Grateful Dead here. You know? It’s ai
Trump has a lot, though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive.
He does, but not in the same order. It’s like going to see a Grateful Dead show. It’s like, fuck. It’s all over the place. Yeah. You know, he’s when Trump gets out there, he just does tugging.
see he accepted he had this long winded speech about the rocket
That was an Eli car. The rocket. Yeah. I’m like, you just won the press edit.
Yeah. Edit that down. You can edit that down. Sounds good. That could be 2 minutes. Beautiful ai. I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking when he was talking about Lincoln’s bedroom. I was like, oh, boy. Like, where is this going?
I went I’ve been to Lincoln’s bedroom.
It was okay. I think you can bring it up, actually. It’s in Springfield, Illinois.
Oh, it is? No. He was talking about the one that’s in the White House.
Oh, no. I’ve been to just his ai, before he got elected.
To his childhood home. Oh, wow.
It’s really interesting. He used to keep his notes in his hat.
Oh, that was a good move. Pretty cool. Big ass hats back there.
That head, wallet, baby, head. That’s a good move. Move. Ai, yeah. It’s
like credit cards behind your phone. That kind of thing. Yeah. Except if you lose your phone, you lose everything.
But you ain’t losing that big ass hat. That was bugging long, dude.
It did crazy, man. You ever see, like, how many dudes wore, like, fancy hats back in the day? That shit just went away. It did. Imagine if you were a kid and you’re growing up in a hat family. You’re, like, our family makes hats, bro. I’m balling forever. Ai gonna take over this business, and then no hats.
If you watch there’s a great, outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada
Between Jack Johnson ai I think it’s Jim Jeffries. And I think this is Jim Jeffries? Yes. Not that guy. Another one.
No. I’m talking about the murderer.
No. Maybe. I don’t think so. I think he’s just a boxer.
James Jeffries. So see if Jack Johnson versus this is it. Who was who killed
the people with that hool aid
or whatever? When you there’s a video of all these folks that are walking, like, to the event, and every man has a fucking hat on, dude. They all look. They all have hats. Look. They all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys. They’re taking off their hats, waving their hats.
Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this. Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats.
They’re all dressed up nice with fancy hats. First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention of that many people on the streets dressed up in suits. Yes. Like, that’s it. It’s the only time ai ever gonna see this. These are ai regular men walking on the streets.
Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button up shirt and a suit jacket. That’s, Jim Jeffries right there.
Oh, those guys are good, dude. James j
Brad. That’s John l Sullivan.
The guy from an, that’s the guy from Monopoly too right there.
He was a bare knuckle boxer back in the dizzy. So, and he was still famous back then.
Wow. Look at him putting it all together. That’s
so cool. Ain’t that cool? They so they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries.
That’s how it goes. Jim Jeffries is trying to make a comeback. He was a little bit older. Back then, bro, boxing would go until someone died. Yeah. They would have I mean, what’s the most rounds they had back then? They were crazy. It was ai 80 rounds or something. Like, what’s the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie? I think they had some insane amount of rounds. That’s a good question.
The greatest number of rounds was ai in a 4 hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunney in Cheshire in 18/25. Holy fuck, dude. And we’re introduced in 18/67. Each round of a fight would last until someone was knocked down. Oh my god. Wow. Bro. Bro. 276 rounds is so crazy. Oh.
That’s when you get all your CTE in an IV bag.
Yeah. You have to That’s the British salt gauntlet right
there, dude. You just get your your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain.
I’m just joking, bro. 110, I guess.
Oh meh god. At New Orleans, that’s where it was. In 18 it’s well, he lived to ai. He lived to 1867/94. Oh, these are the when they die oh, because at ai, it lasted a 110 rounds.
ai god. 7 hours ai 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw.
Dude, most people couldn’t go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Much less 7 hours. Having to fend off a guy.
the middle of a 200 round fight. You have to take a shit.
They should have a diaper round. We have to fight and shit at the same time.
I would meh it affect your punching power if you just waddle it around
and shit. Of course. Dude, I don’t think there’s a way you can shit and punch at the same ai. It would be
Because yeah. Think about it. Yeah.
No. If he sai something ai all that up if you’re gonna throw a good punch, like, your ass cheeks tighten because you kinda use your legs as you thrust forward. You really can’t shit and punch not effectively.
You know, we cracked the code, bro. Yeah. We cracked the ai.
You gotta lose that round. Yeah. So I guess they probably just pissed themselves. I know guys who shah themselves in the UFC. Uh-uh. Multiple guys. Yeah.
I believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once. Who else? Someone came out there. Michael Chiesa looked over at me once while I was doing commentary, and, I think he got call. Ai mean, it was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker, so he didn’t get as much warm up time as he wanted. Yeah.
of a sudden, he’s running out there, and he looked at me. He goes, dude, I’m about to shit my pants. I go, really? He goes, yeah. I’m about to shit my pants. And he won. He went out there and won 1st round submission.
Yeah. Dude, there’s no So the
is this the fight? Oh, is this another guy who shah his pants? A ai in
Who pooped their shorts. Yeah. It happens, dude. This guy shit himself a
little bit. Dude, I would shit myself if I ai to go in there.
Yeah. So that’s crazy. Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself ram and shit himself? Yeah. It happens, man. Look, you’re you’re getting Oh,
Liver pounded on. You’re getting kneed in the guts.
Oh, I got caught in a car accident once and it happened.
I didn’t want to. It just I I didn’t have a choice. It just happened. It it wanted to.
She shut her pants too. Justine Kitsch, congratulations.
I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that that on OnlyFans. Oh. You you sell them shitty drawers.
And that’s Mark Goddard right there. Call time out, brother.
Is? That’s the poop? Oh, no. Imagine if you’re, like, face down, if someone’s putting you in a rear naked choke, and they didn’t clean the mats that good, and the person before shit all over the place. You get pink eye while you’re getting your ass kicked.
Oh, god. That makes me scared.
Yeah. That’s a scary job. That’s the scariest job. You think,
I went to that fight with you. Or no. I went to that fight. Remember me and Joey Diaz went? Which one? In New York. Oh, it was oh, I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went and saw the James j Braddock statue before. It was in New Jersey. Before Dustin and that last fight that he had. Mhmm. No. The the one before the last fight. Justin Gaethje?
No. After that. It was in New Jersey.
Okay. That was yeah. Yeah. Benoit sana Denis.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No.
Yeah. Yeah. Was it? Yeah. He beat up Benoit Saint Denis and knocked him out.
That was after He lost to Islam.
one was in Jersey? Islam?
one was in Jersey. He didn’t beat he didn’t beat Islam in Jersey.
Right. Right. Right. Sai he fought Benoit sana Denis, then he gets sai title shot against Islam.
Yeah. We went I went with Joey. We sai and I went to the, James j Braddock statue before. It was awesome, dude.
Islam’s a monster. He’s so good.
Yeah. It was crazy. And Joey was like, what do I dude, he was on. So this is all love, dude. He is so fucking tremendous. He’s one of a ai, and his book is great too if you haven’t read his book. But, he’s sitting there. He’d been eat he’d been eating mushrooms. You know? And once he even started eating a little, you could see Aaron Rodgers start to look over. You know? He was vatsal serious. You know? He’s like, what was happening?
You know? That’s hilarious. But by the 6th quarter or whatever, I don’t know how many how the fights go, but it’s like, by the 6 quarter, he’s just rubbing on his thighs. Right? He’s talking. He goes, who’s winning dog? That’s what he kept saying to me.
Oh, I can’t wait to see him again.
Joey used to shovel snow for James j Braddock.
Did he really? Yep. Wow. That’s crazy.
It’s one of my favorite things that I ever learned about him.
I’m gonna see him in a couple weeks. He’s coming out here. Joey is gonna start staying out here for months at a time. Yeah. He wants to get a place downtown in the club.
Meh, I’m a come back and look in about a week and a half.
Every time he comes, like, I gotta come out here, dog. I’m like, come on. We’ll make
I’m like, we’ll make it easy for you. You tell me when you wanna come. You come. We’ll fly you out, put you up, whatever you want. I’ll get your real estate lady. Let’s get the party started. And I’m trying to bring back the church of what’s happening now. Because him and Lee Ai, they were together when they were at the club together, and I’m like, come on. Let’s get the band back together.
You guys together were fucking amazing.
There was nothing like that show kept people alive.
That show, Joey Diaz’s show was one of the most ridiculous, silly, preposterous shows. It was so ridiculous. And then he went to New Jersey and here’s the problem with Joey in New Jersey. He loves New Jersey. He loves New Jersey people. He needs comedians. And you you you forget that until you’re not with them. And then you’re ai, oh, this ain’t no fun.
You’re just talking to plumbers or whoever’s got a decent attitude or whatever, you know, decent stuff that you
Ai like talking to all kinds of people Yeah. Obviously. But I need comedians in my life. Like, I need vitamins. Like, I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin d. Ai need I need comedians. It’s too like, that night that we had in that green room watching the elections, how many jokes were cracked? How many fucking times we rag on Tony? Oh, dude.
We talked Tony off the ledge.
We did it. Tony’s a shocker.
Tony’s, like, got statistics. 26% more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump. Bro, he
had the Puerto Rican app open up open on his WHOOP bracelet. I’m like, they have that? What is that? Bro, the
like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind.
They tried to label him as a speaker. They said he was a speaker. A speaker that was at the Trump rally? He said that Puerto Rico was a pile of garbage. These are human beings.
Was that Adam Wright? No. That’s that’s Obama. Oh, it is? A speaker? Yeah.
That was at the Trump rally? He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pile of garbage. Dude, the simple fact that Obama’s talking about Tony Hinchcliffe. Crazy. Bro, Obama’s doing a Tony Hinchcliffe bit. There’s a video of us at the mother shah. Going. We we played it yesterday, but I wanna play it again, Jamie.
Play the video. It’s on my Instagram of Tony is on stage in the main room. By the way, Tony goes on stage. It’s like Richard Pryor just showed up. Yeah. They were going nuts. He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it.
And not the Puerto Rican joke. And, you know
At the same time? Ai the same time. Yeah. We’re definitely in a simulation. Oh
Sai this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV ai Tony was on stage on the TV monitor.
That’s unbelievable. We did it.
He was so nervous because here’s what was gonna happen. If he lost you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories if Kamala wins.
have outs outlines for stories if Trump wins. If if Trump lost, they were gonna blame it on Tony. Mhmm. They had stories where they’re gonna blame it on that joke, and they were gonna say that that joke turned the tides and made people realize that Trump Organization is filled with Nazis and racists, and and they were gonna blame Saloni, and Tony would have been fucked.
Because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too.
Right. So it was like both sides would have disliked Tony.
Ab absolutely. Absolutely.
He would have to go to Puerto Rico or No. Costa Rica.
Maybe. Mexico. Mexico’s Mexico and Puerto Ricans don’t really
get along that well. In fighting, there’s always been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and a lot of Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. For sure.
I didn’t know that. Well,
you know, there’s no prouder group of boxers, I think, in the history of earth than Mexican boxers. Like, they have
Mexican boxers are known for a specific ai, like, if someone says you fight like a Meh, dude, that’s a huge compliment. Yeah. Mexicans ai Julio Cesar Shah, you know, fucking Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, you mean go down the line, you know, Morales, Fuck, man. There’s so meh. Manuel Marquez.
Yeah. They got just so many punches in one punch.
Well, there’s just is a there’s a culture of boxing there that goes back so arya. And it’s sai you know, and with boxing, it’s always people that are poor that wanna weigh out. And one of the best ways out if you’re a poor young man
Fight, you can you can make millions. Like Canelo, like Julio Cesar Chavez, like so it’s ai the the history of people rising through boxing, but there’s a similar history in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a history, a great history of boxing too.
always a rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico.
I could see that because you’re both Latino cultures and you wanna be the best. You know? Oh, yeah. I’m trying to think if I’ve ever been to a boxing, match or not.
You should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. It might be the last boxing match ever.
wanna see it if Mike Tyson wins?
I remember watching Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones junior.
And it was, like, 2 guys, like, in beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever. It was like ai. Yeah. Bring it up. They were wearing, like, big diapers or whatever.
They were wearing cups. There’s a protector that boxers wear that’s different than the protector that MMA fighters wear. So the protector that boxers wears is foam that covers, like, the front of your hips and things too.
Maybe I’m not thinking about it. Maybe I’m thinking about something else then. But it just This this they kept hogging.
This is what I believe. I believe really truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only gonna hit him to the body full blast. It looked like every time he hit him to the head, he was kinda pulling back.
That’s sai it just didn’t seem like this didn’t seem like a real fight.
Right. It seemed like a fight to the body, though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard, and I think he hurt Roy a bunch times really hard to the body. But, you know, both of these men are 50. Roy in his day, I maintain to this day was the greatest boxer I’ve ever seen.
Roy Jones in his prime was a freak. Like, I meh, a freak where he wouldn’t even throw jabs. He would throw a lead left hook. He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab. And people couldn’t understand it because you’d never been in a ring with someone that fast.
heard of Roy Jones’ highlight reel of KOs? You ever watched, like, Roy Jones and he’s in his prime?
They were execution, son. It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but a different thing. In fact, in a Nas song, Nas sai, the new Mike Tyson is Roy Jones. Wow. Roy Jones was just executing people. He was so much faster than anybody. His timing was so good. His power sniper. Oh my god. He was just so skillful.
Who would you rather knock you unconscious, you think, if you had to pick a good fighter?
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe Roy would just put it out quick. He just pop you on the chin, and you’d be like Roy
Both of them will knock you out quick.
Yeah. But the and this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinnie Pazienza. It was the only fight in CopyBox history where the opponent didn’t land a single punch. Wow. A single punch. This was ai when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signaled to the referee, stop the ai, and the the referee said no. And then Roy goes like this. He’s like, look at it, Vinny. Sorry.
lights it up. Bro, he was so good in his prime. But ai all fighters, they sai past their ai, and people really only remember them for when they lost. Yeah. You know, Roy in his prime was just something completely special.
He had a Allen Iverson vibe.
You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last. That’s what you would you would watch, to see what he would do to guys. I did a
fishing rodeo with him once.
Did he really? Yeah. He’s a big fisherman. He he dropped his hands, put him behind his back, and knocked the guy out. Like, lured the guy in and hit him with a one straight right hand and dropped him. It was one of he would just, like, toy and
his shoes. I can’t even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body when this guy’s doing this shit. That’s what blows my mind here.
So good. He was so good. Oh. And everybody that went in there brother right there. There’s a thing that happens when a guy is gonna fight, like, you would see it with Anderson Silva.
Bill Ai, who’s he fighting? No.
Some dude is in real trouble. They should have stopped this fight already.
god, bro. That dude did not need to take those other 2 punches. Dude, he was so fast.
Yeah, dude. Tony was Tony was. He
Changed He was terrified. Tony was terrified. Ai when I walked in, I hadn’t seen him in months. I’m just fucking grilling him. I’m like, there he is. I’m like, who’s an island now? That’s what I ai. He’s fucking sitting
there. Who’s in ai now? Did you really say that to him? Yeah. Yeah. Oh.
And here’s the best thing about Tony though. He laughed like, Tony is for the joke. Right? Oh, yeah. Like, even if he’s, like, going through it, he respects the joke and,
There’s meh layers to that whole thing. It’s ai you Tony is who he is. Yeah. And you you almost you respect that to the core. It was it the best timing? Probably not. Right? No. Was there a lot of supervision over him is what he said? No. Probably not.
shows how disorganized that meeting was.
It’s disorganized, but it’s also real. So it’s ai there’s 2 ways to look at it. It’s like it’s yes. It’s like nobody proofread it.
Let me clear something there because we did say that they went over his material. They didn’t. They did not go over his material. They did. Someone suggested he take one joke out. So he took this one joke out, and he had he’s like, oh, what do I put in his place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke. You fucking dumbass. Don’t you?
Yeah. But he’s just so silly. But he’s the But he laughs at himself.
Oh, totally. But, also, he’s it’s weird because it’s like, do you want things to be tyler? Do you not want them to be tailored? You know? Yeah. It’s like you could have you could have a group that goes through every every single joke and says no to everything.
And then you get nothing. You get you you know what I’m saying? Kinda, it’s like, how many layers of, like, when you drain spaghetti or whatever I’m talking about? Like, how many layers of Spaghetti. Shah. Shit.
know. It’s been a long year.
I I know what you’re saying. I know what you’re saying. But I think when you get to a certain level of your career, you gotta say no to things that are outside of comedy. Yeah. If you’re just coming up and someone says you wanna go speak in front of the president, go out there. Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best. Yeah.
But if you’re Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast, Kill Tony is the number one comedy podcast in the world. Unbelievable. Millions and millions of downloads every speak, don’t do that. Just do comedy. You’re really good. I that’s shah I was trying to tell people.
If you saw those same jokes on stage, he kills fucking crushes. It’s just the worst environment ever for it. Ai are bright. It’s in the day. Yeah.
No one knows a comedian. He goes up cold. No one goes on after him. There’s, like, his big ass paws after him. The whole thing was, like, organized terribly.
Terribly. Just complete disorganization. It was, like, there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing. Like, what do we do with all the extra time? Like, let anybody talk. Who wants to talk? This guy owns a fucking sandwich shop. Let him come up there. Yeah. Look. It’s my friend Giovanni. Like, look at you.
in there. They were letting people that were saying wild stuff too.
Oh, they were letting anybody in there. Anybody in there. And it didn’t seem like they vetted a
lot of the speeches. Some of the speeches are like, what do you what do you what do
with it? 40 minutes of ASMR in there. They were fucking letting people do anything.
you get an organization, whether
the Democrats, you gotta kinda,
like, appease everybody. And you got psychos and moderate people, and they’re all together under this one banner of this one like, have you ever been on a sports team? There’s always, like, one dude on the team that’s a fucking psychopath.
like, dude, don’t cause any fights. Like, leave everybody alone. Let’s go. Come on.
We had a brother. He would slash everybody’s tires, but then here’s the thing. We were giving him a ride home. So I was like, woah. Now we’re all you know what I’m saying? But that’s who he was. You had to respect him. He was a power forward, you know?
Yeah. Well, sometimes they’re not making the best decisions.
People don’t man a lot. People don’t, man. Ai football players, bro.
ai, you’re gonna make some sketchy ass decisions.
Nick Bosa got brave and shared his, political thoughts the other night. You see that?
Well, it’s just crazy how, like, on on mainstream stuff, if you share anything one way, it’s okay, but you share something another way, it’s not okay.
Right. Like, if you nobody got angry at people. They made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris. Like, we’ve made fun of, of Dave Bautista. Like, because it looked just so silly, ai, this performative commercial where it’s really important to vote for Kamala They
bought Tisa and Waltz. Is he minuta over
less espresso? The guy from, Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay. You know Ai talking about. Big Jack dude. He’s trying to get movies, man. He’s wearing pearls to, like, red carpet events.
I know what you’re doing. Mhmm.
You’re trying to get those movies. You gotta, like, show Shah, though? You’re an artist. You’re sensitive. You’re on the right side. Put him in the he wants to be a lead in a movie. He wants to be a movie star.
Then fucking turn on your camera vatsal house and make something.
Dude, I’m telling you, it’s the right move. What he’s doing is the right move. Even if he’s faking it. You mean for Hollywood, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wear the beads. Wear the wear pearls. That softens you up a little bit. Lose some weight. Lost a bunch of weight. Talk shit about Trump.
Because he’s allowed to be ai a tough guy talking shit about Trump. Do you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch they did? We called Trump a whiny bitch and you ever seen it?
Or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald
You ever saw it? Ai it because it’s kinda funny.
Is he the intercontinental champion? I don’t even I I haven’t watched wrestling in a bit.
Big time wrestler was a giant dude, like, fucking built like a superhero. And then he went to Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yeah. He’s a big giant wrestler, dude.
Now I know you’re talking about
But he wants to be a movie star, so he’s losing some weight. He’s a good actor too, man. He was good in that, what was that movie? The glass Onion? The glass onion. Yeah. That was a great movie. That he was really good in that.
Try to think of what I’ve ai.
He’s just like a if you’re a big giant dude and you’re a big muscle bound giant dude and you wanna do, like, serious roles, like, you kinda gotta lose some weight, you know. You gotta and you kinda gotta, like, support Kamala Harris. You kinda gotta, like, wear pearls. You kinda gotta, like, soften your stance.
You know, you gotta kinda, like, be performative that you’re the guy that they would wanna pick because that’s, like, part of the battle. Like, here, let me get this
those Eddie Bravos, dude.
Trump is some ai of tough guy. He’s not. I mean, look at him. He wears more makeup than Dolly Parton. He wants like a baby. The guy’s afraid of birds.
had his daddy pay a doctor sai his little feet hurt so he could dodge the draft. Look at that gut. It’s like a garbage bag full of buttermilk. He sells imaginary baseball cards pretending to be a cowboy fireman. Guy’s barely strong enough to hold an umbrella.
While he’s working out. And where
I don’t know. Pink chickadee.
He’s got drugs, big ones, like Donnie Cartman. He cheats at golf. He creeps around beauty pageant dressing rooms. You know that little dance he does?
Yeah. He’s a pervert, dude. Who isn’t a pervert?
He’s moody. He pouts. He throws tantrums.
No. Get those lights off. He acts like a 5
year old behind the wheel of a truck. He bends over for Putin. He’s catty on social media, and the middle school being curled. The guy needs help walking downhill. Almost there, grandma. For this November, let’s stop kidding ourselves. Donald Trump is afraid.
I don’t watch this kind of stuff. Look at this.
The punches. Windmills, merle a street and being rocked at.
Isn’t it past your jail time?
Mostly, he’s terrified that real red blooded American men will find out that he’s a weak, tubby tyler.
Mommy, take me home. Mommy, I wanna go home.
on a tough guy. Someone grab you by the
Wow. Vatsal closing line is pretty tough.
That’s not bad. He called me a bitch.
you know what he’s doing? Yeah. Try to become a movie star. It’s a good move. But the Hollywood Liberals 100% love that.
Well, Hollywood’s just crazy to me, dude. I just don’t understand it. Like, it it seems like they hate white men.
Well, some people that work in Hollywood, I’m sure don’t like white men, but that’s the thing about woke culture. It’s ai there’s a hierarchy of the, injustices that you have faced.
Ai white men have even if it’s not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because it was not you. White men over history have caused the most grief. They’ve caused the most trouble. They’ve been responsible for the most injustices in this country at least. You know? Yeah. Slavery, red ai laws,
ai people to help the needy Ai saloni just pin the deal 100%. On the honky donkey.
But in America, slaves were exclusively exclusively owned by white people. Right. In other countries, they’re owned by all kinds of people. This is where it gets weird.
Well, people don’t understand is there’s more slaves today than there have ever been.
More slaves today than there were before 18/65 when slavery was abolished in America.
Nope. There’s more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Gaddafi on television, do you ever see that?
It’s one of the most terrifying What channel
C SPAN. But Libya became for a ai, became like a failed state. And at one point in time, there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube.
How crazy is that? Like, look, goo Google the actual numbers.
Yeah. That’s sai real statistic. So and this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal. Okay? Because one of the things about the border, it’s not as simple as people coming over and they want a better ai, of course. But it’s also people being exploited, and there’s tens of thousands of kids that are missing. Who knows if they’ve been smuggled into ai child trafficking?
There’s who knows how many people have been okay. Hold on a second. It says estimates range from about 38 to 49.6000000 people arya slaves today. The number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to to determine. Estimates range from 38 to 49,000,000. What? Uh-huh. Yeah.
Oh ai god. I didn’t have any clue. I Well,
you have to include people that can’t leave even if they’re not, like, in cages. People that are trapped. Right? Like Like
Well, you no. I would talk, like, people that work in coal mines or, cobalt mines in the Congo. They’re essentially slaves. I mean, they give them the minimal amount of food and water. They work in horrific conditions, and they live in complete abject poverty.
But they’re treated better than the people in Gaza though.
Perhaps. Because they’re all getting poisoned. They’re all getting poisoned pulling that cobalt out of the ground.
Yeah. But still, they’re getting lunch, I bet.
Probably not not a good lunch, I would imagine. Either way, yeah, you you could find other spots that suck worse. But the point is, like, those people you could kinda consider slaves, and then there’s real slavery. You know, this friend of mine was telling me about, this place that was built in Jamaica or the Bahamas. I think it was the Bahamas.
And, they brought in, Chinese workers in, like, this giant shah. And he said they they had this patch of land, they put up a fence around the land, and all the Chinese workers lived on that land, and the Chinese workers built this resort there.
And they worked nonstop, 24 hours a day. They built the whole thing in 18 months. They would just have shift after shift. And once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back in the boat, put them right back to China. So what was that? Right. Was that was that slaves?
It would I mean, it seems like slaves. Like, it seems seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money. I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know what the arrangement was. Yeah. They put a fence around the area. They brought people in a giant ship, and then they put them back in the ship and shipped them back to China like it’s sai
a ai. Look at Fyre Ai. Remember Fyre Fest or whatever? Yeah. What the fuck was
dude trying to make money. Right. But still, those people had carded over there. Yeah. Nothing to eat. Nowhere to sleep. Definitely different than slavery, but vatsal, it’s like, yeah, it’s ai it’s funny. You think just because things happen a long time ago that it’s not slavery today. Right?
Well, I wouldn’t say that Ai Festival is a form of slavery.
Did you see prop 6 in California? Shah is that that’s on the screen?
Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude,
What? Wow. What? Wait a minute. What? Yeah. In California? Yeah. Proposed amendment to California’s constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime.
Because a lot of them gay producers trying to ram out them twinks, homie. That’s why, bro.
tell you, bro. They ai every now and then. How would you ai Every now and then, a freaking some twink fucking clambers out of an air vent.
Oh, here it is. Yeah. It’s forced labor in prisons. Yeah. That’s gonna
be paying people that’ll work in prisons and do like, they have to fight the wildfires and stuff.
Interesting. So they want them to have to work.
Wow. They just don’t wanna pay.
But that is what happened. Right? That was what the Jim Crow laws were all about, man. Like, one one of the things about slavery is slavery didn’t end, boom, now let’s give black people jobs. No. Slavery ended, and then there was this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything. Yeah. And then they’d be forced to work.
And they had work camps. And so you were still
You could just get caught and you’d be a slave. You meh a bad cop besides you’re speeding. Whatever it is, you’re a slave.
Yeah. And they get that wrong. Arya and you’re, like, you’re speeding.
Yeah. You know, you’re looking at people bad. You’re verbally intimidating people, whatever the fuck it is. People, like, you’ve sai with the when some when they someone wants to target you for something, you pissed off the wrong people, they fucking come after you with the law and they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn’t be free and we’re just gonna with there’s an industry around slave labor, which there is.
There’s also an industry now of around keeping people in prison. Right? Because the prisons are private. So it’s a a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money. You get paid for them being there. Sai Who gets paid? The private prison.
There’s contracts with the state.
Like, it’s like a summer camp or something kind of thing?
Who gives the contracts, but no. Prisons are owned by corporations.
Okay. So prisons own corporations.
Sai No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Bryden is owned by a corporation. So it’s a business. Okay. So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana. So the prison guard lobby, they were they were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison.
Because the more people in prison, the more jobs they have, the more hours they have, the better benefits they’ll have, and the prison wants as many people in jail as possible. Because they get money. Is how they make money. Wow.
Yeah. Who makes the money? It’s not the government?
No. Well, in some jails, but there’s private prisons. Like, what are the percentage of private prisons? Well, no. I know we’ve looked this up, but I forget the number.
Are they nicer? I don’t think so. What about the Excalibur in Las Vegas? That place is a fucking private prison, dude. Have you ever been there? Dear god. Bro.
I heard Circus Circus is going down. That’s the ultimate. Circus Circus is like, how is this place legal? Dude, that was the end of 2022, 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons.
Yep. Which is about 90,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system, which is mostly public, which, by the way, is even crazier. How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage? Wow. We have more people in jail than any other country.
Yeah. And we need a few more in there too, I think. To be honest, bro, freedom is safe. Some people can’t handle freedom.
Yeah. Freedom ain’t free.
What are you eating over there? The I need a hit or something, man. On this?
that’s Zen’s or something? Breakers?
You scared of it? You want
a vape on you? This is nonalcoholic.
What is that? Bust out the smelling salts.
I’ll take a hit of any of
I’m about to fucking jerk off just to get high, dude.
some. What’s happening, dude?
It’s been a long week, man. It’s just yeah. It’s just been a long year, man.
Well, you’re successful. You’re handsome. I don’t understand it.
I don’t understand it either. Yeah. I don’t I don’t trust it.
This one’s so bad. It stinks.
it knife jammer? You got a knife hole?
It’s not the, fish and bait one, is it? No, bro.
This one is so strong. I I haven’t even opened this meh. Ai Snip it. It’s not even open yet.
You can’t smell that? You have COVID?
Shout out to my friend, John Reeves, who gave me this knife. This knife is made with
You got a vape in here still, man?
on, BLM, dude. What you got, Jamie?
What do you need, man? What what’s wrong with your vape?
I just wanna hit a nicotine. There’s no nicotine in it.
What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Just faking it?
Yeah. Just trying to get through it all.
Do you want a cigar, perhaps?
It’ll make me sick, I bet.
Okay. I want you to get sick. I know. Before I bust out these meh salts, son, these are oh my god. Tremendous. What
What round are we in, dog?
This one. I’m smelling ram over there. Here we go.
Oh my god. Come on, boy. I’ll fucking ride that bitch, honey. Oh. Air back. Oh. In words in Paris, baby. Let’s get this. You feel me?
Get it. Get it. It. Oh, lord. Right? There’s nothing like a fresh
How many seconds did I do, man? That’s PBR shit. You had a good good haul. Let me get one more. One more.
Alright. Sorry. There. Sorry. Be scared. I like it. I ai it. Oh, lord. Yeah. I can’t leave you alone out there and to land. I gotta get a dose in ai.
Oh my god. Fuck. I just think I saw who won the Heisman. Oh ai god. Bro, that shit made something happen to me. Those are so strong.
gonna join woman’s sports. That was odd, bro. That was If every time
you did this and you left here and you felt, ai, you couldn’t remember things well, would you still do it? Do that? Yeah. Yeah. I would. Would lose, like, a little bit of meh. Like, where’s my keys? Nothing serious. Like, you remember your name. You know, still remember your phone number, but you, ai, where’s
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, one of my eyes just shut down. Yeah. And I like it. It feels like how far can we go? There’s something about doing something. It’s ai, I think when you have addiction, you sana do something that harms you. You know? Is that what
Yeah. You sana fucking because it’s control. It’s ai Sai wanna control how I feel. So even if how I feel isn’t great, the there’s a weird juxtaposition where it’s ai, if I have control over it, then that’s it’s almost like you’re the devil that’s trying to kill you, you know.
So if you have control, like so you have anxiety and you’re worried about things, and so in order to ai mitigate that, you do a little bit of damage to yourself, so you have control over the damage.
Yeah. There’s something about having control about how you feel. So even if you feel damaged, you still did it to yourself. There’s, like, I don’t know, man. I’m doing the worst job.
No. I know what you’re saying. The self destructive tendencies Yes.
big part of addiction. You know?
Yeah. Self destructive. It’s ai, I just things arya feel so hectic right now. At least if I damage myself, then I’m the one doing it. I’m not just letting the world do it. Right? There’s in in the moment, you don’t see that that doesn’t have any value.
Afterward, you’re like, shit. That was dumb. But in the moment, that feels like at least I’m taking control of the situation. Right?
Sai think sometimes you spend too much time alone. Me personally?
Yeah. Ai think that’s probably true.
Yeah. I think, knowing you and being your friend for many years now, I think when you struggle is when you’re by yourself too much. Yeah. Because when you’re with everybody else, everybody loves you, we all have fun together. So Ai said it before and I said it I’ll say it again, we need that, especially us, especially comedians.
We need to be around people that are just like us, like, you don’t have to worry, we could just talk shit and laugh and have fun. There’s no ai wondering where we stand with each other. It’s always fun. You need a home base, man.
You know, and you were you were doing better when you were at the Comedy Store all the time because you’re around us all the time. We’re all around each other. We were all we knew there was a place we can go where we could find like minded people and have a laugh, you know.
Yeah. On a regular basis, which is ai we’re so fortunate. Most people don’t have a place where they can go, where they’re guaranteed to see people that they love, and you’re gonna have a good time and just be silly with each other. And then you’re watching all these sets, everybody’s going on stage with that energy, and so
there’s all this That’s fun.
Killing in the air. Yeah.
I mean, mothership’s fun, man. I I would want to look for a place you guys haven’t had the time.
This year’s been the craziest year. You know? It’s just been a crazy year, and so it’s ai
Well, it’s good to be crazy because you’re busy and you’re doing great stuff. And your podcast your podcast is killing it.
It’s been scary. You know? It’s been fun. You know? I appreciate the couple you know, you’ve messaged me after a couple episodes and said, hey, man. That would Ai like that or something. I really appreciate. I wanna set tyler you know that I really appreciate that.
Oh, well, I appreciate what you’re doing. I’m very, very proud of you. I love to see how much you’ve worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks. It’s really good, man. It’s very authentic. It’s a perfect podcast and that it’s really you. You’re you know how to be you. You’re real authentic. Even if you’re talking to Trump, you’re being you.
You’re talking about doing cocaine with former president Trump or now new newly elected president Trump. So it’s like Well,
I just wanna have a voice, you ai. I Sai always just wanted to have a voice ever. And I even I just wanted I don’t know.
You wanna be able to express yourself?
Yes. Yeah. I just wanted things to be fair, and I just want to express I just like Yeah. There was always this feeling inside of meh. Like, I don’t have a I can’t speak up for myself. You know? And so, like, I think and even if I’m just listening to somebody but letting them speak, it’s ai there’s still, like, something that, you know, it means it’s ai, I I can’t explain it, but it’s like, it’s so it’s ai, I don’t know.
It means something to me.
Yeah. I think these kind of conversations are very good for you. Like, conversations that you’re having, conversations that I’m having, I think they’re good for you. You get to you get a chance to communicate with people that are, you know, really interesting unique people that have lived completely different lives than you.
Ai got Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to meh. Fucking, I could I was like a kid in a candy store. It’s like it’s so exciting to get this ai, he’s just like super intelligent person who’s also a really good communicator, could break down the fabric of the universe for you and what we know about it.
I mean, like, when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone ai that for 3 hours?
Yeah, man. Dude, I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for 2 years in a fucking tour bus. Right? And they perform and they do musical acts. Ai? And, bro, I’m not even joking to you. It was one of the most fascinating things Ai ever heard in my life.
Because her commitment to it. Mhmm. Imagine she got her CDL sai she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive.
Commercial driver’s license. Oh. And she goes around doing, feline shows for around the whole country, and she’s been doing it for 15 years.
That’s a good question. I don’t know. Whoever hey. Grabbed him by the pussy, probably that guy.
Do you know that, crazy cat ladies that there’s a reason for that? It’s, the same reason that, ai, it’s a cat parasite, toxoplasmosis.
So you’re saying it’s a, it’s a medical ailment?
Makes you aggressive. Man. No. It makes you aggressive. Yeah. I bet a lot like, that’s that term cat lady, crazy cat lady, that’s a real thing. That lady’s got a parasite. She’s got a brain ai,
toxoplasmosis. Tell them that.
bet I could test them. Oh, probably. Meh a cheek swab. Hold that lady down. Give me a cheek swab. I guarantee that lady’s got it.
Oh, that lady, what do you bro, I used to live with it, dude, bro. I used to live with this dude. Right? And I ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something and whatever, and I fucking cut a window into my closet, dude, and it was to the neighbor’s apartment. I thought it went sai. Ai got kicked out.
But before that, I lived with this dude, and he would get really When
you hear that lady in the the apartment next door and you hear a sai. Something’s cutting a hole in your fucking apartment.
the crazy thing about apartments. Right?
What’s the crazy thing about cocaine? There’s a apartments has nothing to do with it, bro. I’ve been up for fucking 430 minutes on drugs.
You wanna hear something crazy? Trump, at the day of the election, Dana White told me he’d been up for 730 minutes. Unbelievable. I go, how is that possible? He goes, dude, he’s a freak. It’s so weird.
Well, yeah, dude. I’ll say some things that here’s things that, like, whatever you think about, those things that the guy is as resilient. No one could go through all that shit. When the justice department started to fuck him over, that’s when a lot of people were ai, you know what?
The the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system. And if they’re fucking him over Right. And then he got shot at a couple of times, dude. He’s he’s a quarter of 50¢. Yeah.
what I’m saying? He’s like so it’s like how what else does it, you know, at a certain point you just ai I gotta bet on this dog.
You know, even if it’s ai you don’t even like ai. It’s ai, this motherfucker this dude, he you got a bet on that dog at it. If not, it’s just bizarre. You know?
I mean, the guy gets up and says ai, fight, fight after he got shot in the ear. He’s not freaking out. He’s like, holy god. I got shot. Get me out of here. They’re shooting. He he looked.
He was, Naro, stop. Stop. Fight. Yeah. Fight. Fight. Dude, I stubbed my toe. I called my assistant a faggot. You know? It’s like sai, yeah, we there’s something special about that guy.
You know? And if you’re lying about him, and I know you’re lying about him, why am I supposed to trust you that you’re lying for a good reason? Right? If you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating Obama was repeating it one of his speeches. He said about those white supremacists, they’re very fine men on both sides. That’s not true. Yeah. It’s not true.
don’t understand why left leaning media, which is mostly Jewish, are calling people white supremacists, dude.
Jewish. Did you sai that?
Yeah. I just don’t understand.
Left wing media is mostly Jewish?
Jewish friends, it is. You know? But why do they hate white guys?
It’s just woke things, man. It’s just virtue woke bullshit. It’s ai the Sai don’t understand it. Well, because the the hierarchies is have experienced a polar shift. Okay? So here’s what it is. If you go back to the 19 sixties, the kind of racism that people faced, like, before the race riots and all all that was horrific because it’s just a 100 years removed from slavery ending, and the echoes of that Oh, it’s still in our genes.
Meh. But the echoes of that were much more much more prevalent then. And so black people were heavily discriminated against. Gay people were heavily discriminated against. People recognize that that’s wrong. Young people go to universities. They get taught that it’s wrong. They recognize the sins of the past and then they overcorrect.
And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized. So you give people like, Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed. So the oppressed the previously oppressed now have a social hierarchy, a they’re ai level. If you’re a black trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting. You know, let the black trans woman talk.
There’s a hierarchy in all woke culture.
And if you are a white male who’s heterosexual, you have to be non ai because otherwise you can’t get in. You gotta you gotta be a they them because then now okay. Now you’re marginalized. Like, all you have to do is, like, change your that’s the the lowest level of entry is non binary straight man.
You just say you’re non ai, and they’re like, yeah. You just sai, I just don’t feel like a man or want me to ai fuck chicks. You’re a you know what you’re doing, you little chameleon. Yeah.
You’re just being a little secret care bear or whatever.
You’re sneaking around, but there’s hierarchies and gay people because gay people have been previously oppressed. Gay people weren’t even allowed. Even in 2,013 up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was, like, 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and woman.
So now kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past Yeah. Than we do unless we’re paying attention. As we get older, we pay more attention to what’s going on before, but now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been, how they’ve conquered North America, killed the indigenous people.
So they thus, they wanna, like, recorrect things.
Oh, yeah. If I was ever in office, dude, the Native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately, dude.
Well, they already have casinos. They already have casinos. Yeah.
But did they want casinos? I wanted I sana them to have back whatever they want. They’re getting it back. They’re getting the rivers back. They’re getting the lakes back.
They were taking it from each other too, dude. It’s ai No.
I agree. Everybody asked if Native Americans were, like, everybody’s just, like, whistling and just shaking hands, but they were fighting.
Yeah. A 100%. But you would have to figure out, like, who owned it, like, at that time Yeah. And give it back to them, and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Because if you wanna go back to the old ways, that’s the old ways. You wanna go back to when the Comanche ran Texas. Like, okay. Good luck.
But you know what the Comanche’s favorite thing was doing? Raiding other tribes. They loved that.
Yeah. They were gang bangers. They would shah up in other tribes
And slaughter people. And that they wouldn’t just slaughter people. They would torture them. They would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire. Nobody ever surrendered ever because they knew that there was no leniency. You’re gonna be tortured and killed.
to fight to the death? 100%. Fight
to the death. Not being able to surrender because you had no choice but to fight to the death. That’s why you
concept of surrender was completely alien to Native Americans. Yeah. They fought to the fucking death, and they fought each other to the death. And there was battles between all of them, and they they conquered and they made alliances and, you know, especially Little Bighorn. They all got together and fucked up Custer.
But all there’s so many different tribes that conquered so many and then you’d have to go back to when. Right.
when. When? Well, you got it because you killed all these people. Let’s go back to the Algonquins. Let’s give it to the fucking Apaches. Let’s meh, like, you’d have to figure it out, man. Like, this was a this was a You ai tickle a train, Patrick,
This was really, like, in some ways, other than the violence, it was like a utopian existence. It was these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, following them around. They didn’t even make art, dude. The the Comanche didn’t make art. They didn’t make any Why?
They were just warriors? Just warriors eating meat. All they
did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else. So if you
so so is it weird that that we feel bad about that? Like, is that a trap? Like, that’s what I’m wondering. Does that make does that question make sense
That was the way they lived. You know, I mean, is that better than drone bombs in Yemen? You know, when we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse, is it better? Is that better? No. The the whole thing is fucked. It’s fucked that Gaza is going on. It’s fucked that they’re using these these poor Ukrainians ai fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing’s crazy.
It’s all bad. But the crazy that was going on back then was a 1 on 1 crazy. It’s a different ai of crazy. It was ai there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these you’re gonna go kill them and take that thing from them. And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge Uh-huh.
And they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter everyone.
And they did that to each other. They did that to each other. So it was a horrific way of existing.
Because sometimes there’s this there’s this vision that you, romanticize that culture. Right? I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don’t know about. Right? Mhmm. Because there just seems like something like, oh, that’s romantic or something.
You know? These were this was a culture
of warriors. It was fucking hide and go seek for real.
It was a culture of warriors. Like, this whole country was filled with No. It’s not. Nomadic warriors. Yeah. Wow. And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox. That’s what’s the crazy. Oh. Most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the European.
How gay must that have felt, dude? You’re a fucking warrior. Right? Suddenly, you get a fucking couple of sneezes
on you at the depot. Yeah. You go to the trading depot to drop off some fucking skins. Some dude sneezes on you, and that’s a wrap. Yeah. You’re ai,
you’ve been training all day, dude. It’s some guy just fucking doesn’t wash his feet for half an afternoon.
Or just came here off a boat. Stinky bitch was breathing shit shit air and drinking shit water. You know? Like, can you imagine the hygiene on those boats?
Oh, Columbus is shit. It was ai the first burning man, dude. That place was a dump, dude. I heard the pent didn’t even have any chicks on it, dude.
It’s ai there’s an example. Columbus is an example.
I mean, probably if you live back then, that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored.
But you’re in the it’s early morning. You would wanna try
to try. You would wanna try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean. If you’re a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for 3 months and you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side is there’s gold everywhere.
They didn’t even know where they were. Yeah. But if you read the accounts, there was a a priest that traveled with them, some sort of religious man that traveled with them and
detailed diary of their the horrific things vatsal Columbus’s men did. They bashed babies on the rocks. They Nuh-uh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They told certain men that they had to give they had to give them their weight in gold, and if they did, they would chop dude’s arms off in front of everybody.
They enslave these people and use them for their gold because these people had no use for gold. They didn’t know how valuable gold was.
Even when they got to the Meh? Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah. People I mean, they just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude. There’s horrific depictions of what Columbus’s people did.
We romanticize I romanticize nature so much, and it’s really vulgar, isn’t it?
Well, it’s just humans have always done this to each other and for all of human history. Ai strong groups of men with weapons invade people that aren’t prepared and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. I mean, it’s always happened. It’s it’s the the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there’s a bunch of common things.
There’s, an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities. There’s machines. There’s the all these different things improve, but along the way, the consistent thing is war. It’s constantly happening from the beginning of time. As early as we know, tribes were battling other tribes.
And back then, when there wasn’t that many people, wasn’t that many resources, and you were competing to see whose genes speak. It’s just natural. You develop tools and weapons, and then that’s ingrained in our fucking DNA. So here we are in 2024 with iPhone sixteens and Starlink, and we’re still locked into this tribal war mindset because that’s how humans evolved.
And that that’s the scariest thing about being alive today is that we’re so advanced. We’re so much more civilized than at any other point in human history, and yet same amount of people, if not more, are dying senselessly all the time.
Right. Like, we’re civilized on the outside, but there’s a part of us that is will always be uncivilized.
Yeah. Well, the the part of it is war. Right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. You know, there’s parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous. Yeah. They’re the they’re the sai, you know, there’s places of the world where you can’t go with with without getting robbed or shot.
Yeah. Memphis, first of all. I’ll say that.
It’s where Elvis came from. Isn’t that where Elvis came from?
Actually, Graceland you know what’s crazy about Graceland, dude? It’s in Meh, and it’s cool. You go out. They let you in the backyard after the smoke, and Elvis’ grave is right there.
You could smoke right in front of Elvis’ grave?
Smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis’ grave or 80 centimeters.
That movie, that Elvis movie was so good.
Which one, the one Tom’s girlfriend?
Where Tom Hanks plays the colonel? Do you sai that one?
Well, that dude what is his name, Austin? Colonel. What’s the the fella’s name that played Elvis? Austin Butler. Austin Butler is really good.
He fucking he nailed it. He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis. A crazy story.
Elvis was the 1st guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous.
Like, there was no one that famous before Elvis.
No. There wasn’t. Well, yeah, there was Jesus probably. Who else?
Jesus got his reps. He, like, he got his Afterwards. Appreciation after he was gone. Yeah. You know, sort of ai Kurt Cobain.
Yeah. Kind of. It’s a good point.
mean, people love Kurt Cobain while he was alive,
but I think they really appreciated him after he’s dead.
There’s certain there’s certain guys. Sai certain there’s certain guys. What do you think you what what do ai, what
are you gonna do when what are
How about doing shit? I’m dead. Alright. We’ll see about that, Yeah.
Well, we’ll we’ll see about that. That’s what’s interesting. Imagine if you really do go to heaven and Saint Peter really is there with a book. You’re like, this is crazy.
First thing you’re gonna think is this dude’s gay as fuck, I think.
With that robe? Yeah. You’re the most in
a robe. Some dude has a checklist or whatever. That’s like you’re the most ai being to
hide or whatever. You’re the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on. Robes are stupid. I never wanna wear a robe.
When if if I have to go to, like, a a massage place, you gotta wear a robe before you take the robe off. I’m like, okay. You’re gonna see me in my underwear in 5 minutes. So why don’t we just do it now? It’s flirting. It’s lingerie.
A robe. Yeah, dude. A robe. Just male lingerie.
God be wearing a robe with a a robe tie, ai. Don’t you know about pants? I don’t know. You get yourself a pair of Origins stretchy jeans. They’re great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants. God, why why ai wearing a robe?
You think God’s got that thing on them or what? What do you think? He probably got a hog. You think?
He created the universe. Yeah. Oh my God. But it I bet you would want it. I bet I bet you would want it. If you saw it, you’d want it. I
wouldn’t tell I wouldn’t go
up to it. Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You know, like, you’re not even gay, but everybody’s gay for God.
Hey. Look. I’ll tell you this. I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude.
If God’s real, he made gay people. Anybody who thinks gay is a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people. Let me be real clear about this. I think there’s some people that are open minded and say, I’ll try being gay for a while. It’s not me. Maybe it’s you. Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it, and and he panicked at the last minute and ran away. Yeah. I would do it. He had to be open minded.
it, I feel like. I feel like it’s like a late night activity.
gay stuff doesn’t happen at 9 in the morning.
Past 1. Yeah. Past 1 AM. I like to get to bed at a decent hour.
My point is God made gay people. Yeah. So it’s clear. If God made everything, he made people that are gay. The craziest religious answer, like, Ben Shapiro gave me this answer. Mhmm. He sai, he thinks you should ignore don’t do it because it’s a sana. Just like you wanna murder people, but don’t murder them. Yeah. Like, bro, how much do you wanna murder people? Like, it’s like because gay people wanna fuck every day.
Yeah. Like, you know, who wants to if you wanna murder people every day, check yourself in. That’s that’s a crazy comparison. Like, the gay thing is literally your sexual expression. Like, you’re attracted to other guys.
So, like, if you’re not attracted to other guys, you think are you sure God wrote that down? Like, arya you 100% positive that God really thinks that’s a bad ai, but meh he made people that have that urge?
Right. It wouldn’t be it wouldn’t be fair if he did that. It wouldn’t be right. Right. I think the craziest thing is Ai think if you the first gay dude must have been like, what’s going on? You know? Like, he’s sitting there with his wife or whatever, and his buddy comes over to, like, you know, to just look around or whatever because they know that meh stuff back then.
And his buddy comes over just to, like, look around or tell him about it, like, an animal he saw or something, and he just starts thinking, man, I’m sana fucking
I bet it existed from the jump. No. Rabbit.
Little rabbit? What do you think is a gay dude?
I think you get that little rabbit. That’s what you’re saying. Little booty rabbit. A booty rabbit. Ai think gay guys have been here
from the beginning. I’m a snort that little fucking
You know why? Because I think human beings
That little dirt oyster. Jesus Christ. I’m just saying, bro.
do you think if you’re the if the the thoughts have to come in your head, something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts. I don’t think it starts in the DNA.
Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was, I think see if you can find this. I think it was University of Rome. They, proposed a theory that there was a variation of the x chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous and that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons.
Yeah. So the ai is that these women are just so they’re so dick hungry that it literally passes on through their genes.
Where was it? Was it in Rhode it wasn’t in Rhode Island, was it?
No. But that’s could that could happen in Rhode Island. Providence would be a good place for that.
That’s isn’t there, like, a gay mecca that’s kinda there?
Yeah. Provincetown, I think.
Yeah. Jeff what’s your name used to party there? Jeff from his comedy store.
I think Provincetown is Massachusetts. But there’s I know what you’re talking about. There’s a thing in Rhode Island, and then there’s Fire Island in New York. But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women, like, really promiscuous. They wanted a bunch of different sexual partners.
At this same that it might be actually a gene thing. Sai, the jean thing is weird, meh, because Bryden Weinstein explained this to me. He said, do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who’s hot? And I said, no. Like, what’s the difference? He was like, a beautiful woman is a woman that you would sana have a long term relationship and raise children with.
And then a hot woman, like, woman is wearing, like, very skimpy clothes and very, like, looks like she’s, like, really made up very the idea that that’s attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without having any consequences. So the this person Right. Right? You wouldn’t have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes, like, as primates.
Just spray and ai kinda thing. Ai Monsanto or whatever.
Fertility. The the amount of children they have, I think, or something.
thought it was, I thought it was the promiscuous women. I think
I thought I’ll show you the title.
hope that one of this is their interpretation. This is, yeah. That’s around the time. Gay gene survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children. Ai? But guess what? If you have more kids, it means you like dick. I I think they were talking about promiscuity, though.
However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and the mothers their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men.
I think we need more gay men in some of these areas.
Well, hold on a second. Doesn’t that make sense though? That would make sense, like, in terms of, like, natural selection. Because if you’re someone who’s, like, over having kids Okay. You have too many kids. You have, like, 10 children.
I would see how nature be like, you know what? We don’t need to spread these genes as much. Let’s make a couple of these gay.
Right. Nature’s like, let’s let’s even things out. Right? Right.
Nature wants people to be Saloni. Yes. Balance. Nature wants balance.
Yeah. And if someone has 10 kids and everybody else has 10 kids, that could get out of hand real quick. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids nature, but, like, you know what? Let me do this. What was that where was that study done from?
University of Padova in Italy. Okay.
And just as there’s people that’s gay, there’s people that are nonsexual at all, really.
100%, which is sai out of the stay out of the fight. You don’t belong to 2 a q plus a. Yeah. Whatever that is. So what is it? It’s q b d what is it? L g p t l g b t q a I plus. A is asexual. Stay out of it. Yeah.
Yeah. They got it. Some people It’s not your fight. Yeah. You’re just ai
You don’t even have sex with anybody.
Yeah. What if you’re just jerking off at your house? Are you in that or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people?
Right. That’s lonely sexual. Yeah. And l. Ai think they’re gonna put robots in there.
You see that you see that robot cutting hay the other day? I did not. Pull that up if you don’t mind giving
meh with a scythe like the reaper? Like a reaper? Yeah.
Little bit of, like, a not a slave bot or whatever.
We were talking about robot bodyguards. That in the future, you’ll have robot bodyguards. You can go anywhere you want.
That’d be cool. But then, like, the second you start, you gotta run. They’re gonna be, like, ai. And then they’ll run. It’s gonna take half a saloni. Half a second kills everything.
I bet they just pick you up, and they run with you. Wow. They just carry you.
Honey, Jamie, you’re a party pooper. Look how it’s moving. Super real.
You see that pod where they’re Tell
me that is so real. Yeah.
back. 100% that’s coming. Okay? Sure. But yeah.
That’s the same that video.
I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there’s a lot of those jobs they’re gonna be taken ai. Like, unskilled labor jobs are all gonna be robots. So
But don’t you think at a certain point that we shouldn’t have that? Like, at a certain point, shouldn’t AI it doesn’t if it doesn’t help us be human, that at sai certain point, we should stop it. That’s how I feel like.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you just stopped a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should have stopped a long time ago. If you want humans to survive, it should have stopped it a long time ago. Yeah. If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay, It’s that doesn’t make sense because you’re making something way better.
You’re you’re 1 arya 100% gonna make something and you’re gonna give it autonomy and you’re gonna give it sentience, and it’s gonna be infinitely smarter than us. It’s not gonna be restricted by any biological needs. It’s not gonna be greedy. It’s not gonna be mean. It’s not gonna be ai. But it might decide we’re useless.
They might decide that it definitely doesn’t need us polluting the ocean and fucking up the fucking rivers and It’s risky. Yeah. Nuclear waste. It’s gonna be ai, what are you doing, you morons? Why are you idiots cracking atoms? Stay out of that.
Like, you don’t even know what you’re doing.
Here’s here’s free porn and a a fucking VR mask. Just just you give you free food. Have a blast. Yeah. Let you stop breeding. Well, did you Our population will just drop off a cliff.
They just I sai, they, were we talking about a second ago?
Robots? Yeah. Oh, they’re killing people at the airport. You want another hit?
Yeah. I’ll take another one, man. I need another soda or something. You got anything on you in here?
We got coffee. You want something to kill Cliff if
Well, Jamie, go get you one. Wants a coffee?
Yeah. Yeah. I’ll try to to clean mug.
It is? Yeah. It’s warm coffee. Just came
out of the dishwasher. Oh, hell yes.
Why do you pour it with one hand trapped underneath that arm? You’re freaking me out.
Challenging myself, dude.
That is wrist stability. That was all wrist. You didn’t move your arm at all, dude. You were all wrist on that, Jim. Yeah. That’s what that’s hard to do, man.
That’s what the wrist is the weakest link. You ever do, like, wrist curls? I’m shocked at how weak bitch ass my ai are.
Oh, it’s amazing. Curls. Well, it’s amazing whenever you take, like, MMA any jujitsu classes, how the first thing you start to learn is just control the wrist. Uh-huh. It’s crazy. Changes everything.
Especially guys with big hands. If you get grabbed, like, a guy with a basketball player ai his hands. There’s this dude named Semmy Schilt. He used to fight in the UFC. Semmy? Semmy Schilt. He was 7 feet tall.
And the problem with Semmy is if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrist.
get your hands free. Ai, this motherfucker. Because he had these fucking baseball mitts for hands. He just wrapped his hands around you. That sai shah.
He was a k one ram prix winner.
Oh my god. He looks like Zach Bryden on top.
7 foot tall. He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA too. Wasn’t wasn’t a good grappler. Unfortunately, that was kind of his downfall, but had a nasty front kick to the body. Yeah. He fought Peter Ertz. He fought everybody, man. Ram was good.
And he was real tall and real good at, like, utilizing that height. Wow.
It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA because you’d there’d be more of you to be attacked by.
Sort of, but you’re way further away. You know? Like, the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can’t strike you.
Like, so a guy built like Jon Jones has the perfect fighter’s frame because he’s still very strong. He has a lot of muscle, but he’s also long and lean. So he’s not relatively bunk bulky compared to his weight because he’s long and stretched out.
So he can hit you from here, and you can only hit him from here. This this this amount of distance is so huge. If you have a distance ai that much, which in where a guy can hit you and you can’t hit him, you have to cross vatsal, and you’re so vulnerable while crossing that.
And if a ai a good counter striker and he’s active and he’s long, they’re so so hard to get in on. So a guy like John, that that’s always gonna be an advantage. And then with John, if you do get it, that’s no picnic because he’s a elite grappler. So he’s gonna strangle you. He’s gonna throw you to the ground. So, like, you you’re fucked. You’re in this fuck zone.
On the outside, he’s kicking the shit out of your knees. John is one of the nastiest, like, sidekicking people’s knees out. Yeah.
Yeah. Most dangerous guy.
People say that he’s Dana White’s favorite fighter. Do is that the truth, do you think, or is that
the truth? Dana White says he’s the greatest of all time Right. Which a lot of people say.
I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means, but if you sana
If you wanna say, like, who dominated his division longer than anybody, who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division and who never lost, that’s Jon Jones. The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight. It was Dominic Reyes was coming up. He was in his prime.
It was a really good fight, a really close ai. But Jon won what I think was a split decision, and then he had a split decision with Thiago Silva, Thiago Santos. But Thiago Santos, he he blew out both of Thiago’s knees. Thiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight. Oh.
I think that was a split decision.
But the bottom line is John won all those ai. And then, you know, he wins the heavyweight title too. It’s it’s tough to argue he’s not the greatest of all time. Yeah. I Ai I say, you know, if you had to only pick 1, I would pick John. But I don’t like only picking 1 because there’s a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time.
I always say mighty mouse because mighty mouse would do things where you’re like, what the fuck did he just do? He when he fought Ray Borg, he tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking armbar on the way down.
No. I’ve never seen that.
It’s one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying armbar in the air. Fuck. It’s so fast. Like, when it turn to me, it’s ai, when I just think watch this. Throws him. Boom. Woah. Bro. Wow, dude. Bro. Bro.
If that dude ain’t good at gift wrapping, you got the wrong god, bro.
Crazy that is? What look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air, he switches to an armbar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That’s like a stunt. That’s like a stunt move. If you saw that in the movie, you’d be ai, shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that. Right.
He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight. Yeah.
It’s crazy how many of those guys would be, like or, like, Hollywood stunt meh, you know. And then
you gotta you also gotta, like, if you just look on record this is where it gets crazy. If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions Mhmm. You kinda have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all ai, which is so crazy. He’s one of only 3 2 division champions. Right?
He so how many how many have been to do you have Connor. You have DC. You have Alex. I think that’s it.
I think that’s it. Amanda doing this? That doesn’t really count because 45 it does count, but 45 is kind of a nonexistent weight class. He’s, like, doesn’t exist.
Shah was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It’s it’s real, but, like, 45 is the most 145 for women is the most shallow division in MMA. So, yes, you would say Amanda too. So it’s a small percentage of people that have achieved that, and he achieved it in record time.
He’s knocked out so many fucking champions, knocked out Jamal Hill, not beat the shit out of Yuri Prochaska, knocked him out in the saloni fight. Crazy.
That ai unbelievable watching him.
He’s a fucking monster, dude.
He’s a force. What he did to Khalil Rountree was a clinic.
Amazing. To do that to a guy like Khalil, like, that was a clinic in, like, elite world class MMA.
And at first, the first two rounds, you’re like, what is this like? What’s going on? Khalil’s in it. They’re they’re both in it. But then you start to see that, prayer is hunting. It’s like this hunting. Yeah. The pressure
never ends. Yeah. And you’re like,
oh my god. It’s like literally watching one of those snake like a snake when they’re just kind of like like, did you see that snake that ate that deer? It’s ai a 77 pound deer or whatever?
That’s crazy, dude. Bring that ai. Bring that up to that big dog, man.
That he says snake because that’s kinda how Pereira moves. He moves like a speak. Like, he pulls back and then he strikes forward. He pulls back. He’s a master at just getting right outside of your shots, and then his shots are coming in right behind him.
And he operates at his own speed. He’s almost like Al Alvin Kamara is a football player that does that. He operates at his it’s a speed you’ve never seen. It looks normal,
but it’s different. Well, it varies a lot too. Like, sometimes he moves fast and sometimes meh moves slow. It’s very hypnotic. Yes. It’s hypnotic. It’s also unique. He’s got a unique frame, so he kinda looks he moves different on design. Wow. Like, he doesn’t switch his hips when he throws kicks, so you don’t see him come until it’s too late. Right. So he’s standing in front of you.
And when he kicks, there’s no movement of his shoulders. He’s just throwing his kicks out, and they land. And they’re not as hard as if he put his whole body into it. Right. But it’s hard enough where you’re like, oh, no.
And you get hit with a couple of those, 3, 4, ai of those. All of a bryden, you’re like, I can’t walk anymore, and now he’s hunting you, and he’s hunting you. See, I would put him already in the converse. I don’t think he’s better than Jon Jones, greatest of all time, but I I already put him in the conversation ai a potential greatest of all time nominee.
He’s the male Katniss Everdeen.
Fucking crook. For a few years. He’s a hunter. And
he’s only been in the UFC for a few years. Yeah. It’s crazy. A couple of Meh fights other than the UFC, and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division just smashing everyone to a blitherance. So then you got Khabib undefeated
What is it that you’re gonna say here?
2 oh, George Sai Pierre, another 2 division champion. That’s right. George won at 85 as well. That’s I almost forgot George. Yeah. So George, one of the greatest of all times for sure. You you put him in that conversation.
I got to see him in in Canada.
Anderson in his ai. Anderson is prime is in that conversation. You gotta look at him, like, in their In the moment. Whenever there’s a moment of time period, like, this amount of years to that amount of years, well, let’s all agree that this is the prime. Forget about when they should have retired. Let that go.
Just talk about them when they’re at their best, who is the best.
That’s a good point. Yeah. Because everybody that’s doing great, you wanna stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn’t probably.
Can’t judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out.
This is just a foolish endeavor. They shouldn’t have been fighting a killer at 20 at 42 years old, you know, natural.
Yeah. There’s but there’s just a lot. When fighters fight late into their career, you gotta kind of you gotta kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression.
feel like their prime is their ultimate. It’s everything they could do. They did everything right. They crossed every t. They measured all their food. They fucking did the ai chamber, and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills, and they were going over moves, their coaches.
They had a battle plan. Everything. Fuck. So those guys, you can only do that for so long. There’s that’s ai a 9 year at at the best when you’re at the so you gotta look like in that win, like, Fedor and ai.
You gotta look in that window. Don’t look at Fedor now and, you know, guys are knocking him out, and it’s just not the same. He’s an old ai. He’s been beaten up a bunch of times. He’s still a bad motherfucker, but it’s not not that dude who’s running pride in the early 2000.
Yeah. You gotta look at them when they’re in BJ Penn at his best. Yeah. The BJ Penn for a few years, I sai is as good as I know
you talk about him a lot. I’ve heard you speak about
him a lot. You just had us in his when he was in his prime, it was just a matter of was BJ gonna get him in 1st round? Was he gonna get him in the 2nd round? BJ was hyper ai and just unbelievably talented.
I wasn’t watching back then. And dexterity, dude. He had crazy dexterity. He’s the governor of Maui, isn’t he?
Or No. No. No. No. He was ai for the governor of Hawaii.
No. He didn’t win. Oh, no.
I went to Maui not too long ago, maybe 4 months ago.
Yeah. It’s all but we went to the place where the hurricane where the, ai were. Fires. Blew my mind, man. It’s still nothing. Right? It was unbelievable. Yeah. It was it was just ai it was unbelievable to see what it occurred, you know, and just ai, it’s crazy how quickly we just as a like, how we move past certain tragedies.
You know? Like Right. We don’t mean to. It’s just the news cycle does, and, you know, we get kind of addicted to the news ai, and so then it’s kind of hard. You know?
I’ll tell you one thing. What the way the administration handled that, I think, put a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouth ai at the same time they’re sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can’t do that.
You can’t, while you’re sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it’s ai, why do you why are you deciding in this manner that you don’t wanna help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you why are you deciding to give them $700?
of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist.
It’s like only that, but you’re not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right? Because one of the things that’s going on with this is, like, they gotta do insurance, and they go through insurance and this and that. But, meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages. So, like, what happens?
And And it’s hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people, they live as, like, 2nd and third generations all living in the same home.
And they’ve also a lot of you know, how how Hawaii is they, like, they’ll, like, take little pieces of ai. It’s, like, you know, people will build, like, something small and just live in somebody else’s yard. That ai of thing. It’s very, like, you know,
Well, there’s only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable.
Oh, yeah. It’s ai this perfect, like, slight Exactly. Slope heading looking down at
the ocean. What I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanna protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let’s make sure that this land doesn’t get snatched up.
sure that these people get their land back.
That’d be the first thing I would say.
Like, if they all wanna sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, you know, that’s one thing. But if if they get hit with a wildfire Yeah.
of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don’t have the finances to rebuild, maybe there’s a struggle with insurance, sai who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn’t pay your insurance that month. Who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you’re ai, woah. Yeah.
Because if they just like, one of the things that the governor was talking about was ai, you turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say? Acquiring it for the state? What was his exact term that he said? But he sai it like right after the tragedy. It was like, dude.
This is not the time to say it.
It’s not the time to ever say it. It’s not the time to ever say you’re gonna take people’s land and and turn it into a park because they just got hit by a fire. Yeah. So now you you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view. Not anymore. Now the government’s gonna take your land. Why?
Because you got in a tragedy. What? Yeah. Like, I got double fucked? You got double fucked. You don’t even get to keep the land?
Like, you can’t even rebuild there? No. Not anymore. There was a tragedy here. Like, wait a minute.
I think that’s a weird thing when you don’t feel ai as a person that your government is gonna support you. I think that’s but that’s probably ai a feeling why
That sounds like the opposite. It’s like your government’s trying to rob you.
Like, did you find it find the quote that he said? Ai gotta we gotta read the quote because the quote is ai, it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off. I’m Tyler was so pissed off. BJ was pissed off. Yeah. Everybody was like, this is crazy. Like, how can you say that right after a tragedy like this?
Yeah. I remember Ai went there. I I just walked up to the fire department that was, like, up the hill from there.
And I just walked up and I sai, like, ai. I would like to is there any way that I could go see what happened?
This when I was looking for it, this says that it’s the video was shortened and it makes the comments distorted.
It distorts Hawaii governor’s comments about the state buying land in Lahaina.
So what are the actual what did the actual say, though?
I’m already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so that we could put it into workforce housing to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost. We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place, and Lahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life.
The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the banyan tree may ai, but we don’t want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they’re going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first.
So maybe some of their goal maybe some of their goal was to preserve it.
Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Say that again. Scroll doc. This is interesting.
We don’t want this to become a
clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they’re going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. I think what they’re probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it. So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it ai selling it and putting something there.
But it still seems like overreach if you’re living in the fucking place where the state’s gonna take the land.
Well, it’d be very scary as just a regular person. Like Yeah. So I’m gonna lose so I’m either gonna lose my Right. Land from to here or to here.
Right. Like, where am I going now? Or what what what am I doing? You know? And you don’t hear anything about it.
You don’t anymore. Looked it
up once. There was a time where the government accidentally over sent money to Ukraine. They sent them $6,000,000,000 tyler shouldn’t have sent. Yeah. So we looked up. How much would it would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It’s 5,000,000,000. So the extra money that they accidentally
Ukraine, they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a $1,000,000,000 left over. But but we have we have give you $700.
That’s disgusting. That’s disgusting. Like, if you want us to pretend that we’re all on the same team, you gotta treat us all like we’re on the same team. You can’t ai be throwing all this money into Ukraine, and then there’s places in America that suck, and you’re not doing anything to help these folks.
Yeah. It’s just yeah. And people people will say, like, well, your tax dollars don’t affect it, but at a certain point, it’s not even about that. It’s just, like, do you not, like, if I’m a if I’m an American and I’m contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me?
You know? But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways. So
Well, I think whenever you don’t have a system I’m out of my mind. System, you know, system’s a bunch of people. And so when you have a bunch of people, an enormous amount of people, it’s too many people to think about as individuals. You think about it as numbers, and that’s that’s what that’s ai the sort of sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number.
Yeah. But when people start to lose their perp like, if you start to lose your sense of being an American, then you start to that’s a that’s big for a lot of people. Right? Like, so then it’s a sense of purpose. Right? One of the senses of purposes I feel like that we get are, like, having a job, having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love or having, being a part of a country.
Right? Being a part of a fabric of a society. Right. And when those things start to erode some of those things, and if you don’t have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue, you know.
Well, they get rogue, especially if they’ve been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins, you’re gonna be in a right wing fascist dictatorship. Yeah. That just that
just fucking pisses me off. I don’t understand that.
Vatsal should be a crime. It should
be it well, it’s the very least, it’s ai slanderous. Like, that’s not it’s not true. You can’t back that up. It’s not true. Like, you’re you’re saying something that we we have evidence of 4 years of him being a president and not doing that. And what does
he just mean? Let’s look up
the actual definition, but there’s a bunch of different versions of it. It’s usually connected to a right wing authoritarian ideology and a, power of the state over people. And it gets twisted around a lot because it’s also you could also say it’s fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain, speech, which is which would make a lot of left wing people fascist as well.
Far right authoritarian and utilitarian oh, ultranationalist. Political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interest for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to an art anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism.
Fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left right wing spectrum.
No one is. So it’s ai it’s a bullshit term that you’re throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please. It’s like there’s real fascists in the world. There’s real there’s really dangerous people. That guy’s not. He’s he’s got a big ego. He says ridiculous things.
Who are you talking about?
Trump. He doesn’t behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president.
But No. He just seems ai, just a older guy who kinda has, like, likes being Donald Trump.
I think he loves being Donald Trump, but I think he’s got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with.
Well, I think you need a businessman to do this. It’s not a it’s not a we don’t live in a, like, this, like, Care Bear world anymore. Our our politics, it’s become a dirty fucking business.
So you I think you want a businessman in there. Like, I don’t care if somebody like, somebody’s attitude. Can the guy do business? Then that’s who I because it’s not a it’s not it’s all business now. Like, we’ve been it’s been sold out. It’s ai, I don’t feel like it’s this I don’t know. Does that make any sense, dude? Sorry, dude. I’m fucking having a day, man.
No. Don’t apologize. I know what you’re saying. I know what you’re saying. Yeah. It is business.
But, like, you want a shrewd businessman. I don’t need Mary Poppins in there. Right? Right.
don’t need somebody to tell me everything’s okay. I need just, like, I need somebody to make our fucking food safe. I need somebody to make our street safe.
And that’s all I really need. Like Right. I feel like if I’m paying taxes, then those are the things that I should expect that my FDA and that my police department, which I’m paying for, are gonna be able to, make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children.
I feel like I don’t have any children yet, but I already feel, you know, that’s what I feel like people want. I I I don’t care about anything else.
Yeah. I think most people feel the same way. They just wanna be safe and happy. RFK Junior tweeted something. See if we could find that.
Well, Adam McKay had a great great tweet.
Did But our RFK tweeted ai a message to
The thing you sent me yesterday?
Yeah. Is that is it long? Right?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What’s the matter, bro?
They’re having the worst day today, man.
I got it ready if you sana, Jake.
I got Sorry. Being a downer.
No. You’re not being a downer. But you
keep wasn’t it? This that’s it.
Look at that. FDA’s war on public health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean food, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything else that advances human health and can’t be patented by pharma.
If you work for the FDA and are a part of this corrupt system, I have meh messages for you. Number 1, preserve your records, and number 2, pack your bags. Pew pew pew pew. Woah. That’s what’s crazy about Trump winning. That’s what’s crazy.
Yeah. That’s the thing. I like And then you got this.
People like Tyler, that’s, you know, that’s that’s the type of person you sana. Congresswoman
For 8 years, ai, impeccable character. And then you’ve got Vivek, who’s a genius. You got JD Vance, who’s fucking brilliant as well.
So you have a bunch of good people with him this go around. Well, yeah, it’s ai we gotta, like, get people off each other’s necks, man. You know, that’s what we gotta do. We gotta get people to, like, stop attacking each other. It’s so crazy.
Well, I felt a sense of, like, even after the election was over, I ai like people everything just felt kind of calm.
Yeah. Well, it’s a team thing, dude. It’s like your team lost. It really is. It’s these people that are super addicted to politics, they they’re ai people who don’t fall sports. Yeah. Never played any games. Then this is the the way they compete. They compete for the most important thing. Like, who gets to dictate the the tone of the country? Right.
Right. I’ve never expected politics to have any effect on my life. You know? Even when I was a kid, I didn’t, you know, my mom told us don’t ever depend on the government for anything. You know? It’s ai, you just you have to do it. You just have to figure it out. You know? Yeah. Like, they used to have some rich dude or whatever.
Like like, our street, it would, like, cut between, like, the highway and, like, this other road where people would go. And so they had a guy who was, like, a veterinarian or whatever, and he would go down our street. He would stop and throw out, like, these, like and he was a a veterinarian
And he would throw out, like, animal carcasses into our ditch and shit. Right? So we Jesus Christ. Like dead cats and shit? Yeah. Dead animals. You know, different animals. Nothing really, I would say medium size, you know, probably 32 waist and lower. Right?
He would throw those bitches out of the dock and Ai guess just get rid of them. And our neighborhood was, like, the poor neighborhood. So it’s like, who gives a fuck about these people? Right? Asshole.
Totally. But we call them on the streets?
Throw them in a ditch. But we call the police, and they’d be like, meh. We’ll help. And they would never come. You know? And my mom was like, don’t ever I remember telling her, do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do anything. You have to do shit yourself. You know?
Also, cops don’t wanna take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag. Like, that’s not what they signed up for.
And then go investigate the let’s see what what kind of animal is this. Yes. It’s a veterinarian.
And he would just throw those bitches. And sometimes we it would be, you know, after they died or whatever, like, after they, like, you know, after the bones got blanks or whatever by the sun, we would fucking throw, you know, do, like, games or shit, but nothing what? Or, you know, throw them at each tyler? You fucking do.
Throwing bones at each other?
Your fucking 6 rib cages there. Yeah. Oh, god. Bro, welcome to Haiti, dude. It was fucking illegal.
Sick a lot. Yeah. But got immunized by the all the bacteria and finding dead animals.
It got we yeah. We we had a good ai, but nothing like that snake had in that ditch. Bring that
wonder how many fucking kids, that get helicopter parented meh allergic to more shit because they don’t get exposed to things. They’re not crawling around, playing in dirt and shit. All that stuff’s probably gotta be good for your body. Right? When you’re little kids, especially playing in dirt, playing outside.
Oh, yeah. If you’re just sheltered or whatever.
Yeah. Just for your biome, it’s gotta be good for you.
Yeah. I’m trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever. You know? I gotta ask my mom, I guess. Yeah. That snake was crazy. That’s the crazy thing to me, man, to seeing a snake eat something like that.
Do you know how many snakes there are in, the Everglades? There’s more pythons. More pythons in the Everglades.
I would guess a 150 oh, no. That’s even lower bet. I would bet 200,000.
500. Wow. That’s just a rough estimation that could be off by a factor of who fucking knows. They don’t really know. It’s It’s dense, dense, dense, dense jungle.
Yeah. And the guy you’re asking is probably, like, meh, it’s probably 5. I had
this dude in here, python cowboy. He goes and hunts for him. He’s got a dog, and the dog will find the nests.
Let’s just say He’s pulling
these giant ass pythons out of nest.
That dog’s been sexually assaulted, I bet. Ai say
that, dude. That dog’s a psychopath. Yeah. He’s going after something that could easily swallow it.
Yeah. That’s a £77 deer. You see that? Yeah. I think I’m I think he’s a damn 6th grader, dude.
They eat alligators. That’s crazy. This is the crazy thing. Because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades Yeah. ai percent of all the mammals are missing. There’s no mammals anymore.
They ate them all. Wow. There’s 90% are missing.
How long does it how long does it take a snake to eat something that big?
Well, the thing is the number of snakes. Like, it’s the perfect environment for those animals. Like, it’s like they just got dropped off in paradise. Nothing eats them. There’s no crocodiles.
Snakes? Yeah. They’re living.
So some alligators must eat some of them.
But how long does it take a snake to eat some?
Look at this. 2012 study found that populations of raccoon had declined 99.3%, opossums 98.9%, and bobcats 87.5% since 1997. Marsh rabbits, cottontail rabbits, and foxes effectively disappeared over that time. Got it. So they’ve essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes.
But how long does it ai I mean, it yeah. It’s unbelievable. But how long that’s Satan working as well. And how long does it take? How long does it take a a speak to digest? Like, how long does it take once you get that deer? That’s a
I wonder. I know that, Like, is it days or is it, like,
weeks? Let’s guess. Okay. A full deer. 1 week. I say 1 week.
Oh, that’s sai pretty good guess. I ai
say because he’s like antlers and shit
and hooves. Yeah. Yeah. Wish I guess that.
swallow the antlers? Do they go to for the bucks and swallow antlers?
bet Imagine swallowing you feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down. You’d be ai, oh, my god. I can’t believe I swallowed the antler. It’s gonna take forever to break down. You’re just sana be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever. Meh, everywhere you go, ow. Ow.
Just the revenge of that deer. No comfortable way to sleep.
And what do they do with the antlers, man?
Well, they must die. I’m I’m sure they just get to that point, and the rest of the body is is deep. Well, the antler
is is just bone, but it’s so pokey. Like, look at it.
Isn’t that the wildest thing that nature does, dude? Nature gives them weapons for a few months. This is what what happens with a deer.
and when they stop breeding, these fall off every year. So these you find them on the ground, they call them sheds.
So you only defend yourself while you’re bryden?
Exactly. And it’s offensive as much as it’s defensive. They run at each other and clash. You see them fighting. It happens all the time. It’s pretty fucking cool. They go after each other and just fuck each other up and
Yeah. They’ll see them sometimes hooked together. Yeah. I mean, nature’s danger. It meh nature is really blow really unbelievable. What’s the that’s the number one person in the world.
I saw a horrible video of these 2 deer that got locked together. Sai they’re clashing antlers. They got locked together, and one of them got eaten by a coyote. So one was still alive connected to this body, couldn’t get away ai the other one got torn apart by ai coyote. Coyote.
And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that because neither one of them can get away. The coyotes recognized that they were locked into each other and just picked 1 and went after ai, just gutted him.
Vatsal like we were in a threesome, but nobody wants to touch you kinda.
You know? He’s he’s trying to eat
one with antlers and got Got fucked up.
Oh, it cut his own body open?
Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh my god. Oh, look at his mouth. He’s got the antlers stuck through his fucking jaw.
I would hate some I hate it when people
I hate it when people take a long time to eat. You know?
It went right through them.
Yeah. But don’t you hate that though? Like, when you’re eating and somebody, you’re done eating and they’re still eating?
That doesn’t bother me at all. That bothers you?
Why? It doesn’t bother me even a little bit. Really?
No. Yeah. Like, you’re at a restaurant and they’re done. Right? They’re done. You have to fucking you’re done. And they’re still just They’re still eating.
Yeah. Well, just talk to them.
Yeah. But then you kinda you feel like you have to pretend like you’re still, like, scraping your bowl or whatever. You’re like
No. No. You’re thinking too much.
I think it’s crazy to sit there and watch somebody eat. That’s funny.
you? Yeah, bro. Why? Because, dude, they’re eating.
Yeah. But you were eating with them too.
Yeah. But you’re done. So what? Now you’re just gonna fucking look at ai.
I’m just gonna look at them. Yeah. Like, how is it? Tell me about each bite. No.
I that that mean I don’t yeah. I just I feel like if somebody’s already if I ai Sai I don’t like I don’t like, when people eat real slow.
Makes me nervous. Well, you
should just, like, be real clear about that before you go out with someone. Like, let’s sai. Okay. Like, we can eat together, but Ai got this thing. Yeah. Like, when I’m done, you’re done. Imagine if you’re, like, super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule. When I’m done eating, no one eats.
And she’s, like, well, this is bullshit. Like, I know. It sounds crazy. I can’t kick it. It’s I have a tick. I have a psychological problem.
I can’t just sit there. So when I’m done eating, you have to be done. And I don’t eat fast. I don’t eat fast, but I’m warning you, when that fucking bell rings Bon appetit,
Bon Appet, time’s up, dude.
That would be the weirdest thing that you’re obsessed with. You have to you have to end at the exact same ai. Last bite.
That kinda shah. Yeah. I just that would make me I just yeah. That kinda stuff. So little things kinda make me uncomfortable, dude. Mhmm. But that, what else was I thinking about? Ai? Yeah. Pythons, whales, or whatever. Big animals.
Dude, it’s crazy, like, how they have all those Airbnbs now where it’s ai you can stay in ai a, like a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the bus. You know, it’s like ai Airbnb’s. Bring up some Airbnbs, please, sir. They’ve got weird. It’s like, welcome to this, it’s like, oh, it’s like, welcome to this 2 story whale carcass down here at Punta Verde, Mexico.
They make up it’s ai, Punta sai every month, there’s a new Punta in Mexico. You’re like, what the fuck are we doing? We renamed a city. Every ai, it’s like, welcome to fucking Punta Pescado, Mexico. You wanna stay in this 2 bedroom. Say that? It’s a potato.
It’s a giant potato. What is that? What did they call it? Okay. 10 weirdest Airbnb listings let you sleep in a shoe, an elephant, and a flying saucer. It’s a 6
Let’s go to the flying saucer. Oh, shit. I wanna stay there.
That’s yours, dude. Bro, if
I wasn’t married, I’d have the stupidest house. My house would one of 2 things. I’d need to have it built into the side of a hill like the hobbit. Oh, yeah. That’d be kinda dope. Or I would go full spaceship. Yeah. Just a a house where a a 16 year old boy would see it, be like, dude.
Yeah. Yeah. Just appear to the child in you. Like Kid Rock’s vibe. Totally. Kid Rock’s vibe.
But Kid Rock’s White House, I maintain, is the coolest celebrity house I’ve ever been to.
It’s not just one of 1. It’s he’s the only one that would even think about doing that. It’s ai him and maybe John Daly would would build a fucking White House.
John Daly is unbelievable, dude. Every time I go somewhere, every time he’s there, he get an ambulance, takes him home. It’s fucking unbelievable, dude. Every time I’m there, he like, he it’s almost like he hits a hole in heaven, dude. I’m like, this motherfucker’s headed. One time, the ambulance came.
He they came in to look for him. He went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him, bro. Oh my god. And they’re in the place, and they’re like, where is he? And we’re like, he’s
There’s something everybody in regulation. About tyler overweight dude who’s really good vatsal game.
Dude, do you see that golfer girl though? The girl that smokes the female John Daly dude? No. Yeah. Puffy. Oh, yeah. Shah smokes cigarettes?
Yeah. She’s hot? Yeah. Yeah. Woah. Welcome to
and love. Welcome to 1984.
It’s coming back. Let’s do it, dude. Let’s go.
Because I gotta get a damn wife, Joe Rogan.
That’s your move. Get yourself a golfer wife. Someone oh, look at that. Smoking cigarettes, looking hot. Yeah. Let me see. Uh-huh. Oh, baby.
And smoking in front of everybody too.
Yeah. She just ripped starts on the
They over there, they just fucking smoke. They smoke a lot more over there. Everybody’s got a goddamn cigarette.
Oh, yeah. I’ll smoke that lady. I bet you will. Sorry. That’s insane. That’s how John Denley is ai. Also, ma’am, shah could be married. I have no idea.
I don’t know. I’m just fucking everything’s high strung today.
There was a professional pool player.
And, everybody loved him because he was this big fat dude who played really good. But it was the big fat guy thing that people ai. Right. Oh, you don’t have to be a fucking athlete.
to be a guy eating salads and talking getting up in the morning doing yoga before you come to the pool hall. No. This guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was Kid Delicious. Yeah.
great book about him. Yep. John Wertheim, I think his name, running the table.
Yeah. Yeah. People love, short term fats, man. There’s something about it. If you know there’s a bigger guy and you know you think he’s not gonna live long, there’s an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately.
But John Daly back in the day wasn’t fat.
ai an athlete. This is just a lifetime of, like, living hard. Oh, he’s a fucking right there? He was a fucking stout dude.
Oh, he looks no. John is an exceptional guy. Great storyteller. He’s a fucking he’s the Santa Claus of every 711 I’ve ever been to.
Look at that hair. And and he’s a guy that’s been playing golf for, like, how many fucking years now? You know? I don’t know. You
feel you must have of that ball playing professional golf for all those years.
Yeah. He’ll hit a 68 in an ICU, dude. This ai one of a kind, I feel like. You know? Nobody could do it like him. He’s exceptional.
All he drinks is ai Coke.
Yeah. He ai things other than ai. I’m sure,
but he he doesn’t drink water. No. He’s great. Drinks alcohol too.
Yeah. Don’t you wanna stay at this air don’t you wanna stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in Bend, Oregon?
Do you? It’s it’s, don’t you wanna stay in our tree house?
ai all fine. Who built this? Where do I shit? Dude, Airbnbs have gotten so crazy.
Don’t people rent out, like, tents and shit?
Yeah. It’s yeah. It’s like
They’ll they’ll supply you the tent and everything like that.
It’s just like regular shah. People are like, yeah. We’ll go stay there. You know?
Not too bad for me though. If you don’t wanna set up a tent, like, I like camping, but I’m too lazy to set up a tent.
I’ll just show up at your house.
You get them rods and shit.
You got a piece of paint in the butt.
And fucking it’s all like
And you look sad in front of your wife too. You’re like
And you’re tying it down. Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink. Dink. And then you ai that you’re sleeping in a little cloth house
Yeah. There’s an Airbnb tent.
Dude. That’s probably in Austin.
You can fuck in this tent, bro. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. Let’s go.
You ever did a lot fucking outdoors or what was your life like?
Door fucking is the way to go. I ain’t scared of mosquitoes. I’m a outdoor fucker whenever possible.
Did you ever do any when you were younger, Joe?
Yeah. Ai stuck away in the woods. Me and this one girl, we’ve we’re fooling around the woods. We never got to the actual sex part. We got close. We got ate alive by mosquitoes. We tried to get naked outside and so, like, literally, our whole body sai covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific.
all near a stream or was it more landlocked arya? It was
near a river. Yeah. Yeah. It was near the Charles
Yeah. Kids are just going to the woods, you know, that we’d always find kids drinking in the woods. Yeah. You know, ai, we lived in an arya. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts when I was in high school and Newton is, it’s a great town, ai, a really cool area and, where I lived which is called Upper Falls
There was, all these, like, woods and trees and shit and the river was right across the street from my house and it’s ai it was always these wild kids, like, playing Billy Squire on a boom box and smoking cigarettes
it was like the sai. It was really interesting. And then one kid would get a car,
like, oh, shit. Bobby’s got a car.
Bobby’s driving us around. Rockford Ai Gates
in the trunk just coming down the street.
Dude, to this day, one of my favorite cars, I have a ai Chevelle. And I got You own it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, bring it up.
When I was but when I was a kid Yeah. Before I had a car, my friend picked me up in his buddy’s car. I didn’t know the other dude. I met him, like, from school or something like ai, but I didn’t know him. And, he picked me up in this ai Chevelle. It was black with white stripes and it was perfect. And I remember I saw it. I was ai, how does he own this? How can you own this? Yeah.
That’s how I felt. I go sit in the back seat of the car. I was like, this is this car is so crazy that you could own this arya. And he I remember he ran out of gas but coasted right into the gas station and stopped the car in front. It was ai the coolest thing I’d ever seen in the whole entire life. The guy owned that car somehow.
As a 16 year old boy, I was looking at this car going, how? How did you do this? How did you do this?
No. That’s that’s a different car, Jamie. That’s my 1970 Barracuda.
beautiful the 70 Chevelle is on anywhere, but it’s it’s sai just a Google black 70 Chevelle Sai ai stripes.
tell you, there’s nothing there’s nothing like That’s it.
There’s on the wrong video.
There’s nothing like running out of gas and coast into the fucking pump.
Mine looks almost exactly like ai. And but that’s exactly like this kid’s looked when he picked me up, and I got a ride in his car. I was like, this that’s a 69. That’s another amazing car. But that one up the upper one in the middle, that’s my that’s my actual car. That’s my car.
Yeah. Dude, I love that thing. That’s my favorite, I think, out of all of them. I love it so much. It’s just because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16 year old kid and this guy had this car. I was ai, how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car? Yeah.
was crazy. Dude, if a if a older
if an older kid picked you up
when you were a kid and he had a car that
was like Yeah. Getting into, like, somebody who had a car’s car when you couldn’t even have a car was the craziest feeling ever.
You couldn’t believe it. Yeah. You were ai, why? That we completely take for granted. Like, your buddy picks you up and give you a ai. Like, hey. What’s up? What’s up? How’s it going on? It’s normal for you now. Like, oh, I’m just sitting there and I see my friend’s car. But back then, it was like, woah.
do you yeah. Hey. Play something cool on the radio. Everything meant something.
I remember my friend Ai was taking flying lessons
I was in high school, and, I went up in an airplane with him when I was 14. He we’re both 14, and he was taking flight lessons. 1 of
was ai, what the fuck? I’m letting this 14 year old kid ai me around with him in a plane and an instructor. Yeah. But back then, like, you would just You just do shit. So thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You hop in your buddy’s back speak. You’re like, where are we going? Yeah. I don’t know, man. We’re gonna go to Bobby’s house. Alright. You’re listening to songs on the radio.
You couldn’t believe you were in a car.
Yeah. And it mattered, like, if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seat belt was on, if your arms are over this You wanna look cool. You wanna look cool.
Hand on the steering wheel, one hand out the window.
And you thought everybody drove past looked at you?
doing? Yeah. What’s up, kid?
Just looking for some pussy. I remember there’s this one dude days, man.
When I was in high school, there’s this one dude who was, like, he I think he was a couple of years older than us, and he graduated, but he was dating a girl that still went to the high school, and he had an iROC z Meh. With the t tops or
Have the t tops. And this dude pulled in from the high school and everybody, like, couldn’t believe it. He was, like, the coolest guy alive. Look at him in his ai rock z picking up the girl that none of us can date. Rock. We ai you.
Yeah. God. I fucking remember that shit, dude. I remember my brother one time fucking
I have more of the story.
That dude who had that eye rock ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles. Just tried to, like, get the body out from under his car a couple of times, but couldn’t do it, but just kept driving. So driving around this IIROC Z with a person stuck under the car driving for miles.
I hate that kind of thing. Have you ever had, like, a bag stuck under your car or whatever?
Yes. That’s different. I’m
joking. I’m joking. I feel like a total joke. Feel like
if you drive over someone, maybe pull over. Hey. Maybe pull over. But I don’t know. Pulling over. Dude, what do you do at that point? There’s, like, guys that you hear about from high school, it’s like you feel like you’re in a Stephen King book, like Stand ai Me or something like that, you know.
Oh, totally. Everything felt ai kinda had a Stephen King vibes back then, you know.
Well, it just people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no Internet and you barely remembered people if you didn’t see them for a month. Yep. Like, you didn’t even have a picture. I have, like, 5 pictures of my friends from high school, you know. Yeah.
And mostly because my friend Jimmy sends them to me. But it’s ai you don’t remember. You don’t remember what anybody looked like. You don’t remember anything. But now Too much. And now you know everything.
But back then, it’s like you would hear about this, like, one of your one of the guys you went to high school with, he got in trouble and, like, oh, no. Now he’s in jail.
Woah. Like, Todd’s in jail.
Yeah. Woah. I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail. Yeah. He was friends of my friend. The first guy I ever met that was in jail Mhmm. And he had just the weirdest vibe. Though I had a buddy of mine who actually ai was a training partner of mine who was one guy.
He was like this one way, and then he went to jail on a drug charge, and he came out, like, 3 years later. He was a totally different person.
He was super jacked. I don’t know if they were he was doing steroids or what, but he was, like, really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous. And he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the the fights that he had gotten into in jail, and he gotten, like almost like a fight to the death with a meh speak in this guy.
He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just changed him, man. I mean, I’d never experienced something like that before where I knew a guy before he went to prison and then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with.
Like, very dangerous. Like, he he would try to kill you. We’d have we would have wars, like, they weren’t really sparring matches, they were fights.
People were meh. Some people got dangerous, dude, especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear, you know.
This guy this guy I think was ai. I think he was on, he was on gear and I think he was doing coke ai I know he was selling he was selling coke. I know he’s getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up he wound up dying, but here’s, here’s where it gets really crazy.
While I knew this guy, like, while, he was training at the same gym as me.
He got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, they I think he was an informant. They they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones. So from him blacking out from the pain, they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer.
I think then they I think they cut his hands and his head off too, and, he got Somehow or another, man. He got implicated or at least questioned about that.
I was like, yo. Imagine even being in the other room while that’s going on. Yeah. You know, even ai to watch a show or what Ai like or just like hear. You know, like, keep it down.
Yeah. Jesus. Probably to Can’t you guys insulate your torture house? It’s fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck, dude?
I would never be able to torture somebody, I don’t think. I would be able I’m trying to think of the things I could do to somebody.
You might be able to do if someone someone did something to your loved ones. I think you’d be surprised what, like, a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of
her children. Children. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. But, I mean, even mothers who you wouldn’t think of as being, like, violent.
And do you think it’s a choice they make, or you think it’s something that’s just inside
bryden? Inside of you. And you there’s a choice too, but it’s inside of you. You’re like, we have instincts to protect our kids, you know, and you you could get crazy violent. Yeah. And normal regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children.
Well, you know, and it also seemed like there’s a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children.
Killing their own children? Well, there’s there’s always been that, man. There’s always been evil people.
But it’s just crazy evil now.
Have children. Yeah, man. There’s people that poison their kids. There’s there’s there’s there’s evil people out there. In in every, you know, stretch of the world, you’re gonna get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn’t come out ai.
You know? And that’s normal. It’s like everything. There’s always a percentage that’s just not right. Yeah.
There’s always not well, whatever vatsal struggle that the human race is involved in is if you wanted to break it down and, just philosophically, it’s essentially a struggle between good and evil always. It’s always a struggle between good and evil.
And you’re always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome. And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small, but I think it it it enforces this idea to do good. And that good conquers evil if everybody works together cooperatively, but you need something.
If you don’t have resistance, it feels like people with the way we’re designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives. We’re we’re always, like, trying for progress. Right? I think that’s all sort of tied in to competition, and competition needs a a foe.
You need an antagonist and a protagonist. You need resistance.
I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world. The fortunate thing fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love, and it it motivates people to stop evil Yeah. And it motivates people to limit evil. You know, like the calls for law and order in this country, like, during the the the riots. Meh, when everybody was like, we need law and order.
We need law and order. You can’t have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order. Like, that that kind of stuff. It’s like that that’s that that’s good versus evil. It’s evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don’t know who died unjustly. That’s crazy.
You know, you’re just you’re just using this as an opportunity to say fuck everyone. You can’t have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can’t have that. Yeah. You just you can’t have that.
So, like, when you encounter these different things, it makes you appreciate not having those things, so it motivates you. One of the things that got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit. He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, increase all the things that make people feel good about the future.
Yeah. And they didn’t feel that way about the message that we’re healing they were hearing from the other side. They they they felt like it was gonna be more of the same shah, and more of the same shit doesn’t get anything done. We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don’t wanna be involved in.
Yeah. Shut it down. Shut down everything it doesn’t have to do with us. I feel like for a while, it’s like there’s just a lot of stuff that we haven’t even healed from in this country. You know? Yeah. That’s the biggest thing. I think there’s a lot of things that we haven’t healed from that we should try to address as a group. You know?
And that could ai, like, you know, everything ram, Native American times, slavery times, opioid epidemic. There’s tons of things I feel like that it’s like and I don’t know how you do that. I mean, I know time has a lot to do with it, but it’s ai, I just don’t know if sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it’s like, we could, I think, try at least
Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts. I don’t know if he can, but the the point is, like, something has to be done. We can’t just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves. That seems crazy. And if you’re you’re saying we’re not ignoring ourselves? Well, we’re not spending the the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have.
Yeah. It’s ai even if you look at, like, you know, recently, I learned sorry. Recently, I learned that, like, the number one cause of medical debt is insurance, is, medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America. Right?
Crazy that there’s just such a laundering system that goes on. There’s a money laundering.
Well, yeah, I mean, hospitals and insurance companies. There’s definitely Ai mean, if you talk to Brigham Buehler from WasteWell, he’ll he’ll explain to you. Yeah.
I just went there the other day. He’s the man. I went to Kuyo, and I went there, dude. Nice. I’ve been trying to get well while I’m here. I’m trying to get get well. It’s been tough.
Shah were we just talking about? Medical debt.
Yeah. He’ll he’ll explain it real well. It’s ai it’s a, you know, it’s kind of a fucked up system. But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you’re you’re out of work because you got a medical issue, and you have medical bills.
If you don’t have insurance, you’re really fucked. If you don’t have insurance, ai, woah.
But it’s just a scam. Like, the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries. Just things that it’s ai our government doesn’t wanna make better deals because there is this middle meh that’s making a lot of money off of it. You know?
There’s that. You know? I don’t know. There’s definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money and also companies that we need, you ai. Pfizer makes good stuff. Makes I mean, these companies make really beneficial drugs too. Yeah. But it’s just the problem with all these fucking people is they just want to make more money constantly.
And if they can get you taking more pills than you need, they will. That’s how they sell. They wanna sell pills. They can come up with a reason. Are you anxious? Ai a little. Hey. Here you go. And next thing you know, you’re dependent.
Yeah. It’s ai, do you have 2 legs? You ever been on a bicycle? Like, the things are just crazy. You know?
Yeah. You ever read, oatmeal raisin cookies? You’re like, well, fucking, this is me, I think.
We, we we can’t let them advertise.
buy the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media too. Yeah. It affects what people are allowed to investigate. It affects what the the news is because the news is not gonna give you everything. They’re not they’re gonna conveniently ignore things that would affect their their partnerships. Yeah.
Now if you have a a Yeah.
Yeah. What what did we say it was again? Amount of 1,000,000,000 of dollars they spend every year on ai? Pharmaceutical drug companies.
Did you, were you were you nervous about endorsing Trump or no?
I usually try to stay out of it. Yeah. But I felt like I was getting urged to ai Dana and every oh, there’s quite a few people. I didn’t think it makes a difference. I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place.
In my opinion. I just I’m not buying, like you know, when we’re talking about before with the way the country feels, like, the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky because regardless of what you thought about his policies, what what he did in place, it was real clear something was wrong with him, and they were lying to us.
But that so that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy. Right? Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy is moving in the ai general direction, even if you agree to those things.
When you have a guy that’s at the front that’s obviously some in some way ai, there’s something going on, something going on that they don’t sana to admit. And everybody knows it, and he drifts off, and he says things don’t make sense. And something’s wrong, so everybody feels uncomfortable even if everything’s going well. Right?
Because for good or for bad, that person that’s in that office kind of sets a tone for the country, and the tone for the last 4 years was confusion. So regardless of their policies, the tone that’s being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk.
There’s word salad and then, you know, there’s, like, these moments where it seems like she does doesn’t know how to wrap up a sentence, which can just be nerves. It could just be nerves talking in front of large groups of people. It doesn’t mean she’s not brilliant. It doesn’t it really doesn’t.
Some people Yeah. She was new and kinda thrown into it.
But some people clam up when they have to do those things, but then there’s the argument that’s the job though. You have to be able to do that because you’re gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and, you know, presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world.
You gotta be able to handle pressure, so that’s kind of part of it too. Kind of part of it too is you gotta be able to handle pressure. But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he’s so antagonistic, you know, and that then that’s the tone of the country. And the tone of the country is not ai the the tone of the Obama administration Sai always felt was the best because he was measured, never attacked anybody, was very articulate and smooth.
There was not a lot of umms and ai. Like, some people they Trump throws too many extra words in, but it’s just his flavor. His flavor is he rambles, he goes all over the place like Ai joke. Look at this hair. What is wrong with my hair? He makes fun. He’s ai doing stand up up there. Obama was the smoothest, and Clinton Clinton was pretty fucking smooth too. Maybe Clinton and Obama, those are the goats.
So, like, when you get a person for good or for bad that’s smooth and talks like a a professional, like an actual president. It makes everybody, like, oh, he’s got this. This guy’s a real real professional president. Like, look at him. Yeah. With Trump, you’re like, I hate Taylor Swift. Like, no.
Don’t do that. Don’t say that.
Yeah. You hit the wrong button today, buddy.
He tweeted out that this that lady that he allegedly slept with was, you call her horse face. Why was the president? It’s so crazy to do.
But for a lot of, like, super sensitive people and progressive people, that’s why they wanna believe that he’s Hitler.
They wanna believe they they look at these things and then they they don’t look at it as ai a flavor in the soup, like, look, it’s all pepper. No. It’s not all pepper. Like, pepper is a part of it. Yeah. He probably shouldn’t tweet I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever. Yeah.
What’s important is, like, what is he gonna do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems?
And can he do it? And he can can he keep all these people in his staff, RFK Junior? I don’t know. I don’t know if he
can, at least we have hope. If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kinda clean up some of the corruption in the system, it’d be exciting. It’d be good for me, Bill. If we stop putting ingredients in foods that are illegal in Canada because they’re dangerous, how about we stop doing that here? Yeah.
Seems like a logical thing. It’s not like Ai Loops in Canada sell that less. Yeah. It’s probably equal sales.
And people would get unaddicted quick. You’re really just getting people addicted to things. You know? Even understand. About we prosecute that fucking Sackler family that fucking killed 100 of thousands of people in our country? How about that?
Well, you you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity. They were trying to buy immunity. They were gonna have, like, a settlement where they give x amount of 1,000,000,000 of dollars, but then they were immune to prosecution.
But ain’t that what they did though?
But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out. Wow. And that was we talked about it once, but I don’t know where it’s at now. But that family, they made 1,000,000,000 of dollars by getting people hooked on opium.
Unfucking this family is mass murderers. Yeah. If they anybody with the last name, they should I don’t give kick that gene pool out of our fucking country. Those people are fucking murderers, dude. I think a lot of people still haven’t gotten over that shit.
And do you know that was the same family that was involved in Valium?
Mother’s Little Helper, that was Valium. That’s shah ladies in the fucking
sixties were taking value. Lizards. Get those motherfuckers out of here. And that’s one thing that that was one of the reasons why I was, like, supportive of Vance. Like, you know, like, I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing, and I hope that it’ll get I don’t know if he can do anything because lobbies are so big now.
Wasn’t someone in his family an addict?
Yeah. His mother suffered from addiction, you know.
But, he’s just seen it. You know? Make sure
that the Sacro family was involved in the Valium thing. I don’t wanna have to edit that out. It was if I I called them a piece of shit about one thing, but, hey, we weren’t a piece of shit about that other thing. I think they were, though.
I just that’s like, even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry. You know? Here it is.
Because you know the family, a member yeah. Arthur Sackler, a member of the Sackler family, was a major figure in the promotion of Valium through direct marketing to physicians in 19 sixties. Yeah. That is it. So same family.
Evil. Evil. It’s literally evil. Like, it just You’re destroying lives.
It’s the it’s devil. It’s the devil.
It’s a drug dealer. It’s one of the worst drug dealers because you’re sneaking around with doctors. Yeah. You’re sneaking around under the, you know, this this ai of authority.
Well, one of the problems is that the say if you work for a politician, right, in in in DC Right. They can only pay you so much money by law
To work with them and be, ai, help put their bills together.
So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who’ve been writing bills for the meh and for the senators, so they then go to work as lobbyists. That’s one of the biggest problems.
So a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries. Right? And that we also have a law that a lot we we also don’t have a law that stops people once you work for one side that you can’t work for the other. Right.
Right. Right. That’s the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical drug companies.
And I’m not saying that there’s I don’t know the answer. I’m just saying that that’s one of the thing that’s one of the reasons why that happened.
It’s a conflict of interest Right. For sure. And it’s it’s it’s just nobody regulated it. Nobody they allowed it to happen. Yeah. It should be if you’re working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money.
That seems like a conflict of interest. Like, you would be willing to do if you had had conversations with these people and they’d say, listen, you’re nice to us in a couple of years, golden parachute. You want a yacht? I think you need a yacht. And next, you know, you’re you’re a millionaire, ai is bizarre that you can do that.
It’s just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress. You know that a bill is gonna get passed. You know this bill is gonna affect the stock. You gamble high on that stock. The bill gets passed and you make a lot of money. That seems illegal. That seems illegal.
That seems crazy. But there’s a lot of those things, meh. And this this system was set up by people, and people are flawed.
Right. That’s a good point. Yeah. It’s ai not that no one’s gonna do anything perfectly. I don’t know.
Well, it’s not just vatsal. Accountability and transparency in terms of, like, what’s actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now. Like, anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out this about the Pentagon and that about this.
Like, there’s just it’s you don’t have to look in the New York Times anymore. Right. You know, you don’t have to wait for the news to come on at 5. Now you get it whenever you want it, and that’s sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with.
So for the longest time, even though there’s rules and the constitution sai up in the bill of rights, there’s been people that have had a lot of power for a long ass time without a bunch of people looking at them, and now more people are looking at them than ever before. And then you get this guy like Trump comes in ai, Sai, the Crooked Drugs. Woah. Bro, what are you doing?
You’re going to war with the CIA. He’s like that drunk uncle, dude. Bro, what about Barron Trump, dude? No. There’s no bryden. Like, whatever you think about this election, I the whole thing to me is fascinating. First of all, because Dana White made so much stuff happen.
Oh, yeah. Right? Sana White made the Trump thing happen for sure.
He was a he was trying to get me
to have Trump on in, like, 2017.
Bro, you would hear rumors of that in the distance. Right.
He would call me up. He called me up. Joe, listen. The president wants to do your podcast. I go, you mean Trump?
I tried to change the name of it. Wait. What are
you doing, man? Why are you trying to get me in trouble? You know? And back then, I was like, I don’t wanna be a part of this. There’s too many people were angry. Too many people were pissed off. I was like, I don’t need to. And I didn’t pay attention to it enough. I didn’t pay attention to, the way they were misrepresenting things that he’d said enough. Yeah. I didn’t really I my wake up call was when they went after meh.
When CNN went after me, I was like, yo, this is ai. I’m taking veterinary drugs, bitch. Yeah. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dump also, why are you upset that I got better quick? Like, what is this about? Like, that I took veterinary drugs and got better quick?
And why in the article, hey, why wouldn’t you herald it say, hey, this could be a possibility, you know. It’s like
Not only that. It’s just the there’s no way they didn’t know that it was for humans.
Those people are it’s all a
But but when I saw that and that was so minor in comparison the way they’ve come up to Trump because they come up to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shah. And I don’t think he’s a perfect person. I think he’s fun and I I think he’s a very competitive guy which is why he likes playing golf so much and so why he wouldn’t quit until he became the president again and he pulled it off.
Yeah. And the best thing that I’ve heard from people on the left is it’s not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together. And I think we should all have that mentality. Yeah. This idea that we’re all separate.
We’re on team USA, and I think we should just, like, all publicly state nobody gives a fuck where you’re from, what you do. You’re on Team USA. We’re all in this shit together. That’s it. Oh, yeah. That’s it.
Let’s forget about all this identity politics nonsense and all, like But is
that gonna happen, you think?
If at least we can put that thought out there instead of everyone’s racist, everyone’s a Sai, every like Yeah. It’s it’s that ain’t helping nobody. You’re just pushing people further and further away. The people that used to identify as left, they’re being forced to these sort of center right positions just to maintain normalcy.
Yeah. When you’re giving puberty blockers to kids and you’re opening up gender affirming care clinics and treating kids, like, shut the fuck up. You’re not on the right side. You think you’re on the right side because you think you’re being compassionate. What you’re doing is crazy to most people, and we don’t want it.
And we think you’re you might be, like, in a cult. Like, you’re it’s a giant cult of leftist that think crazy things, and they’re allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen happen ai society, like the no cash bail thing, like, things you think are good. You know, structural racism is why there’s so many people in prison. Right? Yeah. But but you can meh let people out who shoot people. Right.
You can’t just have people robbing people and
back out on the street. You can’t have that. You can’t have that. You’ll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive, and you’ll be under chaos. You’ll be ai living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. Yeah. You can’t just keep this trend going.
You’re gonna fall apart, and it’s these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen. These people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done, but it can be done. That but, you know, that there’s there’s a version of all of these different communist philosophies Yeah. You can ai. There’s socialism that could work. Right?
There’s a version of it that can work and make it more equitable for everybody, but the end of that is always one thing. It’s totalitarian control over what you say and do. Because as soon as you sana redistribute funds, as soon as you wanna tell people they can’t have things anymore, then you’re gonna have to take it from them.
Yeah. Well, I I think, like, to me, everything kinda started to feel like this privatized communism. Right? Like Yeah. Once the post office didn’t work, I was like, the government’s fucked, dude. I was like, these bastards can’t even get a package to fucking Toledo in 2 days, dude.
You know? Like, but it problem with the police
office is that there’s, like, UPS now.
But it all but you go in there, dude. It’s like a western. They’re serving liquor at the counter. Like, it’s
Yeah. It’s supposed to have it’s gotten the it’s gone downhill. They have liquor? I mean, they don’t, but they you could probably score a gram up there at the cat. Like, it’s got it’s gone. The, you know, the doors, there’s no hinges. It’s got dude, it’s the Ai West over there. Which post office you’re going to, bro? Every post office, bro.
Bro, it’s 75% of the post offices are it’s gotten but I Ai just use that as an example of, like, a govern it just, like, started to fall apart. Right?
The last time I saw a post office was the last election. That was the last time I went to a post office. Well yeah. And Last election when I mailed in my California ballot.
Yeah. And how meh I I emailed it 20,000,000 of them apparently. How many and at that time, was there a saloon at at
the end? That, like, at least cause for concern that leap in numbers? Yeah. What is it now, Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now?
The California one hasn’t really I don’t know why it hasn’t updated more.
But California’s they’re digging in their heels. They don’t wanna make the election real.
I don’t think either one of these parties is what the people say, like, democrat they’re not the same parties it was 15 years ago.
Most people are waking up to that. That’s why if you look at the map of
Look at the map of California, red and blue ram 2,016, 2024. There’s a giant difference. A I mean, a giant difference. A giant difference in the amount of counties that went red. Yeah. It’s just the big population centers are always gonna be blue. They’re they’re in the trance.
If you’re in San Francisco and if you’re in Los Angeles, you’re in the trance. Like, 70% of those people are in the trance. There’s this less But
they also believe things that mean something to them. So they’re not, ai, because Right.
But socially, they’re connected to all these ideas, you know. And socially, they’re all, like, hyper liberal. They’re socially locked into, like, this mindset. It doesn’t allow questioning narratives. It doesn’t allow questioning these ideas. So, like, the idea of questioning science was, like, there’s no way. You’re we’re a science denier? Yeah.
Like, you could be a science denier. You couldn’t even say, like, hey. Are you sure that these companies who have been lying their entire careers, they’ve been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for for lying. We know they lie. You sure they’re telling you the truth about this drug when they they haven’t injected giant swaths of the population with it before, but they’re gonna do it now.
And they promise it’s gonna work.
And then they’re lying about the promises. They’re lying about whether it stops transmission. They never even tested for that. They’re lying ram whether or not it stops you from being infected. They didn’t test for that either.
Well, the same people that own this own the publication company. It’s just starting to be so obvious. It’s ai, I don’t know.
I’m sana money, man. It’s just money. Right. That’s what it is.
What point does money because if something over the fact of somebody’s peace of mind in health and wellness, ai, that’s the thing I don’t understand.
Because they’ve used their money wisely to connect it to an ai. So the this is what it is. If you’re a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it’s not even really a vaccine, I mean, you’re calling it a vaccine, but that’s kind of a sneaky move because it doesn’t really work like a regular vaccine does.
It works completely novel. It’s a completely new thing. And if you can connect that with the people that’s the the logical educated people Yeah. That are reasonable and convince them that you can’t look at it ai. You you can never examine it. You can never question it.
You never question whether or not it’s even necessary. You just have to go with it. You can’t question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them. You can’t you gotta reject that because you
Because you have that emergency use authorization thing.
That wasn’t cool, man. I never took it, and guess what? Doing great. You know? Yeah. I’m depressed. I’m suffering from depression. Yeah. You should. Issues and back pain today.
But You are suffering from depression.
You’re not hanging around with us. Come hang out here, man. Come move.
I know this year’s been busy, man. I ai I’ll I’ll Well,
if you lived in town, you’d be hanging out all the time. You feel better. You feel better. You need a little community. I know you, dude. You get weird. When you’re by yourself too long, you get weird.
Oh, and I speak a lot of time by myself. You know?
you call to check to see if people still like you.
That’s most of my childhood. Did I really do that?
Oh, yeah. I was talking about
you talking about? Well, I’m interested. I sana make sure we’re cool.
I’m like, of course, we’re cool. Like, what are you talking about? What happened? God. Nothing. Just we ain’t talked for a while.
Wow. Did I really do that?
Yeah. It was it was a weird conversation.
Fuck. That’s the story of my life, dude.
want people to make sure we’re okay.
Yeah. But I know you, man. So when you call me, I’m like, oh, 3 of them just need some love. You know? You’re out there in the woods by yourself.
You can’t be alone, man. Well, I think part of me, I wanted to do I’ve always just wanted I wanted to do, like, my own thing, you know, but then you start to realize that there’s, that you yeah. You’re doing it by yourself. And I think that goes for, like, whether it’s work relationships or, personal relationships too. You know?
I think it’s just like it’s been the same psychology for me. You know? Like, I’m the Ai I’ll think Scott, let me talk about this. I’ll think to myself, I wanna be in a relationship, but I wanna do it on my own. I just realized that dude. Amazing.
But it’s that’s how there’s some it’s just like Well,
you can marry yourself. People do that.
Oh, I would hate that, dude. I’m always just chasing myself kinda jerk me off. I would I wouldn’t get any
sleep, dude. Oh, it’d be a nightmare. That would be a real problem. Yeah.
Yeah, man. There’s I, I do Ai do, like, wanna be around a a group more. This year’s has been so it’s ai I’m
not by yourself, but you are doing it by yourself. Right? So you’re doing your podcast by yourself. You’re doing your stand up by yourself. The thing about, like, a club is you’re doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves. Right. So you’re around the same level.
But you’re hanging out. You’re having fun. You’re you’re charging up your love batteries. Yeah. That’s what it is. You know?
Oh, the other night, even just being there, being able to laugh with Tony and, like like, Ron White was right there. You got Brian Simpson. Yeah. You got Kurt Metzger. Everybody’s just watching and dancing and figuring things out.
And then then the fucking Tony was
Kurt would corner you with them conspiracies, bro. Did he ever get you? Did he get you? Yeah. Bro, he drowned me. He took me in a rabbit hole.
Oh, 12 years a listener, dude. I ai talk to him. I got caught up.
River. He held me under. Bro, he took me to the fucking I don’t I go, Curt, I don’t even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about. Yeah.
You don’t know about that? You don’t know about that one? He’s like, Jesus, Kurt. Yeah.
He’s this giant dude. He’s, like, looming over you, like, with conspiracies in his fucking crazy eyebrows. He’s like, you don’t know about the Vanna White conspiracy? You don’t know what’s behind the e’s? You don’t know what’s behind the e’s? Here’s the thing, dude. Until he’s one of
Jimmy Dore, he’s one of a kind.
Jimmy Dore’s ai, I never got to talk. A man. I got I got to see him for years, but I’ve always been, like, kind
of admirable about him. He’s a great dude. He’s a great dude. But, before he started working for Jimmy, he didn’t really have a lot of conspiracies in his head.
It was like ai got sort of exposed to all that work of for Jimmy and doing that show and he’s like, oh, my God. This whole fucking thing is rigged. And then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. That dude will send you a text and if you send him a
text back, he will send you
a chain of thoughts. A doctrine. Yeah.
Like a scroll. Yeah. I wanna save them.
I wanna save them. Because, like, that would be
a cool almost like a book to publish. Oh, it’s ai Text with Kurt. People would love that too.
I love how passionate he is about stuff.
Very, very, very smart dude.
It was fun. Yeah. That was just fun to see. Who else was there just like,
Brian Simpson, Sana Ahmad. Assan was there. Derek was there.
Derek was there. Dude because you tell any joke if it’s good or not, you can look at Derek. And if he’s laughing, it’s good. Yeah. Yeah. He’s just like
He’s a great green ram hang.
Yes. There’s he he he’ll let you know on his face immediately. He’s the to me, he’s the be all end all if something’s funny.
He’s a great person. He’s, like, just a nice guy to be around.
That’s vatsal, like, the beautiful
He is very funny. There’s a beautiful thing about the club is that there’s so many nice people. Yeah. It just, like I said, he charges up your love batteries. What’s we all need in this world? We all need a little more love, little more fun, and I’m just hoping that Trump doesn’t start attacking people.
That’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping that he just and I know people around him sana do that. Just concentrate on the positives. Yeah. Concentrate on the positives.
You got 4 years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people, and then you will be remembered as that guy.
Well, I just want people to tell us what’s really going on. If they can’t really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody would just tell us that. Well, Well, I think
if anybody’s gonna, it’s him, especially now and especially with access to podcasts. Right? So if he decides to do your podcast 2 months after he’s in office and you have questions like that, all of a sudden Ram could probably tell you. Whatever it’s not top secret, he could probably tell you. He said he’s gonna release the JFK files. We’re gonna find out a lot of this.
We’re gonna find a lot of things. We’re gonna find out whether or not he’s gonna really keep RFK Jr as a part of his organization or whether he’s gonna get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever
to not If he loses him, dude, he’s gay.
It’s not cool. So there’s that. And then there’s is he gonna release the JFK files? Because he was told that it he shouldn’t release them. That’s he said some of the people were still alive, which doesn’t totally make sense because that was 1963. So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age.
You know? But what does it mean though when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former of the president. So if that’s true, then would it be that they’re worried that it would erode all confidence in the intelligence agencies or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place?
And then people start saying, well, what happened with Martin Luther King, you know? Because there was one that Mike Baker who’s a former CIA guy was saying that one, like, he investigated for a show because that one doesn’t make any sense. That guy just started getting money. He was a loser his whole life. All of a sudden, he had money. In the mail? No. The the guy killed him.
James Earl Ai? James Earl Ray. So that guy, Mike Baker broke it down for us. I don’t remember exactly, but essentially what he’s saying is that that guy was a drifter, who was a loser, you know, in and out of jail, that kind of a guy, and then all of a sudden he has access to money.
He’s staying in a nice place Right. And he has
what’s going on? And, like, he thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King and that someone financed that, which is most likely. That makes sense.
Well, back then, you could kinda kill somebody and it was easier. You know? Think about, like, the Wild West. Right? Like, they if you killed somebody, they drew a picture of you.
Right. Wanted. All you have to do is shave your mustache. Yeah. Well, that’s wrong, man. Fucking I’m looking for a guy with a mustache.
You could book can’t put on glasses. Where’d he go? He killed my whole family. Where’s all the guys got glasses? I can’t be him.
Bro, you could literally go across the fucking behind a boulder shah come back to the town get a job as a sheriff and look for yourself for 20 years.
Bro, imagine how gross it must have been to come to some, like, fucking weird town. Back then? Weird brothel town with a saloon, and you just smell like shit. You’ve been riding on the back of a horse for 3 days and you just wander into this weird fire lit community.
Did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed? Or not. I don’t know how it worked out.
He yeah. You were saying, get a disguise. He changed. He got, like, a nose job.
But he also got a driver’s license, made it to Mexico.
Oh, he’s in prison. He used to work at a Kroger’s. Wow. Pornographic film director.
Establish himself as a pornographic film director. Yeah. Using mail order equipment. Who hasn’t, bro? After a quarter of an 8 ball, who hasn’t? Oh, he sounds saying that. Sound like a fucking psychopath.
He sounds like a bad guy.
Considered immigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority regime had unilateral unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965. Wow.
Yeah. Then those job Yeah. And then went to Atlanta and then very quickly
To yeah. Decided to do what he did.
Yeah. It’s tough, man. The heat down there is just fucking ruins everybody.
Those drive people nuts, especially if you got that cat parasite. Alright. You know? Then they’re all moving around your head ai, get them out of my brain.
Have you seen, that show ram on Amazon Prime?
I haven’t. Pretty good. Yo. You know what I’ve been watching, though, on Netflix?
What is it? 3 Body Problem.
I haven’t seen it. I’ve been hearing people say it.
It’s really good. It’s by the people who made Game of Thrones.
It’s really good, dude. Ai wait. Totally unique. Like, I don’t wanna tell you much about it.
It’s a science fiction, but it’s it’s totally unique. You watch and you’re gonna go, oh, shit. At first, you’re ai, what is going on here? Yeah. But after a while, like, oh, shit. I’m on episode 4 now. Fuck, dude. And there’s not gonna be in saloni 2 for, like, 3 years.
Well, like, Stranger Things. Those motherfuckers are making a movie every week, you know. Right. They’re making a 1 hour movie every speak, which is ai so much better than a movie. You know, like Game of Thrones is better than any movie that’s ever existed.
It’s so good. And it’s just one episode leads to the next one and to the next one. Oh, shit. I can’t believe she did that. Yeah. Oh, fuck. He’s dead now. Oh, shit.
Fucking they killed the king in the very first episode.
Unreal. Spoiler alert. And they handicapped that kid out the gate.
Remember? Ai out the gate.
Fuck. Usually, it’s 2nd season before you get a handicapped kid and sai, oh, handicapped.
My mind. Dude was fucking his sister, and he didn’t want anybody to know.
That’s crazy. But back then, there weren’t any rules, were there?
I think you’re never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that vatsal, like, back to caveman times.
Right. I’m sure there’s something in most people that feels like, hey.
Let’s shut it down. Let’s go outside instead.
Well, vatsal ai people always thought about that with rural communities.
You know? Well, people say this a lot. I mean, I’m from obviously Louisiana. People say, oh, you know, they’re always like, hey.
You’re sick. You know? You ever fucked your sister? Yeah. Yeah.
And the thing what happened was people didn’t live close to each other. So if you you’re not gonna travel, you’re only gonna travel so far to Are
you advocating for fucking sisters? Fuck.
It seems like that’s what you’re doing.
No. I’m saying this is what happened back then. People aren’t gonna people aren’t gonna get a train ticket to come. You know? They’re gonna people are only gonna have sex within a certain distance of their Right. Good call. Right. That’s why it happened. Right.
guy it’s like There’s no one there. Right. There’s nobody there. So they had to fuck their sister.
They didn’t have to, but at a certain point, they got lost and ended up back at right by the house. You know? Like, something’s gotta happen here. I’m not saying it’s cool. I’m just trying to tell you how it works out, like, you know Well,
that’s how it certainly works out in the mammal kingdom. Yeah. Like, if you have puppies, the boy puppy will fuck his sister. Yeah. 100%. He don’t even think twice. He’ll try to fuck you. They’ll try to fuck your leg. They don’t even know what they’re doing.
Oh, yeah, dude. Ai stay to my buddy Brad’s house one night. Right? We’re dead asleep. Right? And they let a bunch of puppies loose, dude. Those things are fucking gangbanging you. I ai have a chance, dude. I don’t have a fucking ounce of milk on me. Those things are fucking sucking me off, bro.
Isn’t it funny? Like, we accept we don’t think that about people.
Right. The second it’s crazy how it goes from animals to people, man.
Yeah. We’re we’re animals. We’re animals.
Do you think there’s a certain purpose for us? Like, we there’s a magical purpose for us, or do you think we are just an anomaly?
Well, I think even if there’s not, this is a magical time. It’s an interesting time and and especially for people like us. They get to talk to so many fascinating people. I mean, we have a really cool job, not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts, you know. And you’ve I think you’ve got a great education doing that, you know, a great, like, you’re you seem more introspective.
You you’re more curious about things than, you know, I remember before. You’re ai, I think it did the same thing to me.
Yeah. I almost feel like I know more. I wish I didn’t know more stuff. Sometimes Ai miss knowing nothing. Right. Yeah. Does that make any sense to you?
For sure. I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don’t need.
Oh, yeah. You’re a library, dude.
You know? The the thing More like
a meh box where you rent that one movie.
We haven’t been doing it as long. I’ve been doing it a lot longer. That’s all it is. It’s just No. It’s the amount I do too. It’s numbers.
But you’re a you have a you you are you are a library. You know, there’s sai certain types of people that can make it through certain things and that’s You
wouldn’t wanna educate a child on this library. This is not there’s not a library you’d love everybody to have access to.