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#2225 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Description
Dave Smith is a stand-up comedian, libertarian political commentator, and podcaster. He’s the host of the “Part of the Problem” podcast, as well as a co-host of the “Legion of Skanks” podcast.
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#2225 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the discussion revolves around the evolving landscape of media and the significant role podcasts play in shaping public discourse. The conversation highlights the contrast between traditional media outlets like CNN and the more in-depth, thoughtful discussions that occur on podcasts. The speakers argue that podcasts offer a platform for intelligent and diverse perspectives, which are often missing from mainstream media. This is exemplified by long-form interviews with influential figures like Elon Musk, which provide more substantial content than the brief, sensational segments typical of cable news.
A recurring theme is the democratization of information through podcasts and social media platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, which allow for the widespread sharing of diverse viewpoints. This shift challenges the ability of traditional media to maintain a singular narrative, as audiences now have access to a broader range of opinions and insights.
The episode also features a discussion about a debate involving Chris Cuomo, where the speaker criticizes Cuomo for not acknowledging the limitations of relying solely on mainstream media experts. The conversation touches on the importance of admitting mistakes and the impact of personal motives on public perception.
Nicole Shanahan is mentioned as a guest on another podcast, praised for her intelligence and insights. The episode underscores the value of having knowledgeable guests who can contribute to meaningful discussions.
An actionable insight from the episode is the importance of seeking out diverse sources of information and being open to different perspectives. The overall message is that podcasts are a powerful medium for fostering deeper understanding and challenging conventional media narratives. Additionally, the episode includes a sponsorship message for ZipRecruiter, emphasizing its effectiveness in finding qualified job candidates.
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#2225 – Dave Smith Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe
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Rogan experience. Ai meh day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.
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And I couldn’t even after we got off the phone last night, I was, like, I’m gonna go to bed. Ai didn’t get a few and then I just had to watch clips.
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What time did I call you? Like, 3?
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3:30, something like that?
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Yeah. I was just sitting in front of YouTube watching professional pool on TV going, what the fuck is going on? So turns out voting works. It’s real. As much as we fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there were shenanigans and bullshit, and it’s just a a puppet shah, and there’s no way anybody could buck the system, turns out voting is still real.
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At least partially. At least if it’s too big to rig. Yes. And clearly, he was too big to rig.
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Yeah. Wasn’t it it it was crazy because it was, like, for for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like it it almost felt like, 2008 when Obama was running against McCain, and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this.
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Everything you could see and and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him. But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama’s up big. He’s about to John McCain’s not gonna win after 8 years of George w Bush. The country doesn’t want another war hawk. They want this, you know, articulate, young peace guy.
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Right.
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And it was like that with Trump where it’s ai, all the signs are that he’s clearly running away with this, but then every single poll told you, no. This is the closest election of your lifetime. And then it was just there was a very interesting feeling to see it and be like, oh, okay. I’m not crazy.
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I was observing all the things I was observing.
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Do you know what what Trump told me about the polls?
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No. What?
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He’s like, they’re bullshit. They don’t do anything. You give them money.
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Oh, yeah.
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They come back. They have these results. You don’t know.
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He was ai, they charged $500 for
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yeah. Yeah.
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He’s right.
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Yeah. He’s right. And the media gaslit us to the the the absolute limits of their ability. The absolute limits. Joy Reid spent the entire time she was discussing Trump the other day comparing him to Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, talking about a right wing authoritarian regime Yep.
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As if he had never been president for 4 years and didn’t behave like any of those things.
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Yep.
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As if the economy wasn’t booming, as if people weren’t making more money, as if we weren’t involved in any new conflicts overseas. No new wars.
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Ai, I mean, I could I could point to a lot of things Trump did in his 4 years that I think were bad, but they were things that were similar to Obama and Bush. And they
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you know
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what I mean? It wasn’t different.
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He could point to them too. You know, when I talked to him about what it was like to actually govern for the first time ever, it’s a daunting task. He was telling me about the thousands and thousands of appointments he had to make. Thousands of people he had to pick. He didn’t know who any of these people were.
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He had to trust people that he knew and he didn’t know who was telling them the truth and who was just trying to get the system moving along in the exact same direction. And he got bogged down with a lot of that shit. It took forever for them to weed it out. Which is the crazy thing about being president.
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It’s the hardest job on the planet, and you start it without any knowledge of it.
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Well, that’s yeah. And, I mean, a little bit of that’s on him because there were some people who he probably should’ve known. What I didn’t like in his answer about that to you is that then he ai pivoted, to talking about how John Bolton was actually really good to have there because because
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he’s terrifying.
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Ai, and he’s crazy. Oh, this guy wants war with everyone. But the problem is that, like, that’s not how it went down. John Bolton ruined the North Korea deal. It’s not like it it was successful, and the North Koreans were so scared of John Bolton that they wanted to talk to Donald Trump. They were at the meeting.
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They were willing to talk to Donald Trump, and then John Bolton came in, and they were like, oh, these these guys are psychopaths.
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I don’t wanna make a deal with them. Pepods Vatsal alone.
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And I I will say look, man. I was, I was rooting for Trump last night as much as anybody in this country was.
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As much
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as Tony Hinchcliffe. Okay. 2nd 2nd most. 2nd to Tony Hinchcliffe. To say.
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Touche. More Puerto Ricans voted for Trump than ever ever by up 26%. Meh was
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so Well but wasn’t it what and wasn’t that just one of the it was look. There’s obviously a huge series of these things where the the Democrat establishment and the corporate media, but I repeat myself. They it’s death by a 1000 self inflicted
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Yes.
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Wounds. Yes. But it it is almost as if it’s like their whole thing relies on lies. Right. It’s just all ai, and they are just this force that is objective reality. And so all of it, you know, whether it’s Joe Biden shah as attack Yeah. Kamala Harris is joy. Yeah. You know, Donald Trump is Hitler. Tony Hinchcliffe was a man at an event who made some comments.
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Ai, that he he wasn’t really, that wasn’t a comedian who was ripping everybody?
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Not only that, but an insult comedian. Ai comedian who’s famous for insulting people.
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And we’re supposed to act like this it’s not 2024. Like, we we didn’t all grow up on Don Rickles, and we all know exactly what Tony Hinchcliffe is doing.
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Did you see the clip that the mothership posted? It’s on my Instagram. So they’re talking about the the comedian who made jokes about Puerto Rico while Tony’s on stage on the other screen. So Tony’s on stage at the mothership while this guy’s talking about what Tony did on CNN, and they’re going over, like, the Puerto Rican population and how they voted.
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Oh,
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it’s so cool. Up because it’s
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fucking crazy.
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So great.
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We’re watching it. And Metzger was back there. We the whole green room was packed. We were having the best fucking time. There should have been a camera on the green room last ai. It would have been the greatest reality show of all time. Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe and Hassan, everybody’s cracking jokes.
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Metzger
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any Look
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at this. About the Puerto Rican joke.
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Oh, dude. That’s so great. That’s what check.
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What is happening to?
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I said Metzger. Amazing
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slide by. Oh, that’s a.
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Ai just said after that, we’re in a simulation
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for sure. Yeah. It does feel like we’re
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it’s on the video. I said we’re in a simulation. It’s a 100%.
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Wow. It’s just ai it is just unbelievable, man. Like, the the the false reality that they were trying to present while you’re while you’re watching what’s actually going on
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Yeah.
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And seeing that it’s ai there was just an enormous shift, like, culturally ram, say, even 2016 to now. And I did I thought one of the big indicators to me I was talking about this a bunch on my show over the last, couple weeks was or I since the arya event, whatever that was a week and a half ago.
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And, dude, there were no protesters.
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No. That to me was so wild.
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It
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was all gas lined.
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It was but I’m saying, like, if this was happening in 2016 if in 2016, Trump came to Manhattan to give a speech, there would have been, like, thousands of protesters.
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I was there, actually, in 2016 when that did happen. Ai I was there the day that he won. I was there for the UFC. Right. So the next day, we’re walking down the street in Manhattan, and people are chanting. This guy was saying, Donald Ram, KKK, anti black and anti gay. He’s ai Not a
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terrible champ.
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It was terrible. This is the the biggest cuck ever. It was ai No. It’s just The speak cock. The guy was a super cock. He was one of those guys where
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you just like,
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look at you.
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Yeah. I wanted to follow him around. I’m like, you’re amazing. You’re
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a gift.
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Keep talking. Just let me listen to you.
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Like, what’s your life like
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after this? ai black guys started walking towards his sai, he starts chanting black lives matter. Soon as he saw the black ai, black guys, black lives matter, black lives matter. I was, like, this is amazing. I stuck right behind him. Me and Cam Haines, and I think Tony was there too. And we were just, this is crazy. This is crazy.
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But they don’t seem to have that in the same way. It’s all bullshit. Shah troops aren’t there for them anymore.
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It’s bullshit. First of all, back then, they didn’t know what he was gonna do Mhmm. And what he did economically. Chamath has the best way of explaining it. He said it was the right meh. It was the wrong messenger. But if you look at the actual actions and were they good for the economy, were they good for the United States, they were.
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But it’s Donald Trump as the messenger was so polarizing that people lost what’s really going on just based on who this guy is who has like, just like Tony Hinchcliffe is an insult comic. Donald Trump’s entire career is you’re fired. Yep. You’re a loser. Rosie O’Donnell’s a loser.
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Like, that’s his whole shtick, and you expect him to course correct once he get into office? No. He’s not. That’s not who he is. You elected that guy.
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But along with that, now you get RFK Junior. You get Tulsi Gabbard. You get Elon Musk, and you get JD Vance. You get brilliant people who aren’t ideologically captured, 2 of them who used to be Democrats. 1 of them that probably knows more about environmental polluting Yeah.
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And about the problems with pharmaceutical drug companies and health and the consequences of all sorts of pesticides and herbicides, ingredients in your food that should be banned, that are banned in other country. You got that guy in there now. Yep. And we got a real chance to make real change.
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This is,
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like, one of the first times ever where there’s a real chance to make real tangible change that’s gonna be for the good of everybody.
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Yeah.
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And he’s gotta unite people. He’s gotta not attack the left and not attack everybody. Let them all talk their shit, but unite. Now it’s time to unite everybody.
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Well, 100%. And then there’s there’s even more guys in in I mean, Vivek Ram Swamy That’s Vivek. Yeah. David Sachs. I mean, he’s got some really smart guys
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that are very successful Yes.
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Who are really Vivek’s incredible. Incredible. Just excellent and totally brilliant and so right about so many of the major issues.
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Yes.
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And and look. I mean, Donald Trump now, he has a real mandate, which is ai this is kinda what’s crazy. This isn’t 2016 where, you know, he lost by several million votes in the popular vote, but won the counties that were important and just by the skin of his teeth got in. This is ai he’s I I mean, the last I looked, he was up by over 5,000,000 in the popular vote.
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5,000,000 in the popular vote. And what was it when when I went to meh, it was 312?
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Yeah.
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He had 312 electoral college vatsal?
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Yeah. With still, I think, a few states. Arizona, I think hasn’t, you know, finished meh. And so it might it might even rack up higher than that. But the mandate is, like, very specific. It’s ai the basic policies of, like, okay. Immigration control. Can’t have just have an open border with no control of who comes into our country. A desire to get out of stupid foreign wars. Yes. You know?
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And, and and, obviously, the improve the economy Yes. Deal with inflation, things like that. But he’s got a mandate to do that right now, and he’s got all some great people around him. My bit listen. I was rooting for him as hard as anyone except Tony Hinchcliffe last night.
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It is. But
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but I will say now I think now till January 20th, the real the pressure should be on on Trump to to do better on the appointments than he did last time. He’s got a lot of better people around him than he ever had in 2016 or 2020, but he was floating out Mike Pompeo as the secretary of defense, and he did have Mike Pompeo speak at his final, campaign event.
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And to be clear, Mike Pompeo is Liz Cheney’s pick for defense secretary. It’s Hillary Clinton’s pick for, defense secretary. And so much of this will be lost if he puts that guy in there. That’s he he needs to keep all of the Lindsey Grahams and the Mike Pompeo’s and all of these guys away from his administration. Bring bring in the noninterventionists, man.
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No one wants to fight these stupid wars anymore, and that’s what you ran on and won on. I want Lindsey Graham to start a podcast. That I’d be fine with.
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We gotta get those minerals. There’s some expensive minerals over there in Ukraine. Tim Dillon was doing an impression of him yesterday. It was amazing. It was amazing. Dude, I
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don’t even like maybe I should no. He deserves it. But there’s did you ever see the thing when he was running for president where he was talking
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about He ran for president?
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Lindsey Graham
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ran for president.
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Amazing. In 2016 Ai imagine. And those hubris. Sai think Trump gave his phone number out or something like that.
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Really? Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don’t remember that? No. It was like because he was, like, attacking Donald Trump for probably not being an awful war hawk or something like that. And, Donald Trump, like, said something about how he he used to call him and ask for money, you know, when he was running for a campaign that he just gave his phone number out of the vest.
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He made he made a senator change his phone number. It was just so great.
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That’s ai a Chael Sonnen move.
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Yeah. It was just it
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was amazing.
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Sai funny. Amazing. But he said, Lindsey Graham was asked about being the first single president.
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Yeah. Never meh.
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Never married.
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And he goes, he goes he goes, there might be a bunch of different first ladies if I was at their wedding.
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Yeah. Yeah. Sure, buddy. First of all, that’s the last thing you say is you’re a meh, if you’re a heterosexual. You say Ai trying to find a good woman. Yeah. Realize. I’m trying to just find one good woman that I can grow with and that I love with all my heart. Just one good woman.
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I know that she’s out there. That’s what you say. Yeah.
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You don’t
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Ai be a bunch of first ladies. I’m a get divorced, married, divorced, meh, and keep on scooping up that minerals in the Ukraine. I gave those minerals to the Russians. We’re just walking around with women’s panties on and shit and ai. I’m the president. I
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mean, listen. I wouldn’t
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I’m ai first lady too. I’m gonna wear her clothes.
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I typically wouldn’t go after someone for that, but when you’re a war a war hawk, all
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Yeah.
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All is fair. But he’s just gotta he’s gotta keep those people away from a man, and that really was his failure in his in his first term. Ai and and, look, I do understand him ai. I don’t know. He was an outsider. He had never been he had never lived in Washington, DC. He didn’t know all these people, but he’s had a lot of time.
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This is 8 years later, and he’s got a great core of people around him, And those are the people to take advice from. It’s like, mister president Well,
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they’re on
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it. Listening.
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They’re on
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it right now.
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Well, talk to Rand Paul. Rand Paul will tell you who to put in those positions. Talk to Thomas mass I just saw he floated at Thomas Massie, for I I can’t remember what position it was. That’s great. Put those guys in there. These are the America first guys. Okay? And it’s not Mike Pompeo. It’s not the war machine, dude. And it’s and, also, you know, look.
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His rhetoric was so great on Ukraine through through the election. And when he had the courage to just say, like, no. I want the I want the dying to stop. That was one of the best moments of the entire campaign. But his rhetoric on Israel has been very bad.
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And the the other thing that you can’t get around is that, ai, listen. You can love Israel all you want to, and you can you can pledge to help defend them or whatever. But no. I’m okay. But but Netanyahu is John McCain.
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Right.
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That’s who he is. Right. I mean, he’s Mike Pompeo. He’s Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley. He’s the guy who came over and testified in 2002 before a congressional hearing and advocated that we overthrow Saddam Hussein and also advocated that we go have a regime change war in Iran, which he still wants to this day.
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He advocated we had the regime change in in Libya, in Syria. I mean, he’s John McCain. That’s not America first. That’s not you know what I mean? That’s not this we’re not fighting stupid wars anymore. So love Israel all you want to, but we’re not with BB Netanyahu. That’s something else.
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That’s the opposite of America first.
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Yeah. A lot can get done here, man.
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Yeah. I think so.
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I think he can listen to those people. He has 4 amazing people around him, you know, that really have experience, ai, especially, Tulsi, Congresswoman for 8 years. RFK Junior knows it inside and out. You’ve got Vatsal, who’s brilliant. You’ve got Vivek, who’s brilliant. You got 4 incredible people with him. Yeah.
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And then He can I think he can get through this in a different way than he did in 2016?
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I I think he’s the there’s real possibilities for it, and I think that that’s a huge component of it, the team that he’s got around him. And I would also put, I would put Tucker Carlson Yes. In that camp too because I think he is very influential, in on his thinking. I think in in many ways, he’s kind of
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Although he does think demons made nuclear bombs.
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And look. 50 50 shah. He’s right about that. I’m not saying he’s but when it comes to policy, I’m saying he’s very spot on on that. I love the guy.
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Don’t get me wrong.
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No. Me too. And and who knows?
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He’s a little bit obsessed with demons. He said a demon attacked him. Did you see that? Yeah. I Scratched him up.
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I did see that, and I wasn’t sure. I I when I was watching, I was like, is this like a Halloween thing that
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you’re doing? Why are you laughing? That is so rude. He’s a victim of demons.
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That sounds like a fun thing that could I don’t know. What happened?
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That’s the thing. Why? Demons never really get you. You know, they’re scary. Like, ghosts, they never steal you.
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Yeah. It’s true.
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Neither the aliens. They bring you back.
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They always bring you back. Yeah. It’s ai
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They bury you for a little bit. They freak you out.
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Do you think, like, demons are bummed about that? Like, they’re, like, did you kill anyone today? And they’re, like, we can only really scratch people.
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Tucker thinks aliens are demons. Yeah. I know. Aliens are angels and demons. He He thinks it’s ai this idea that they come from outer space is stupid. He said they’ve been he thinks they’ve been here all along. Yeah. This is ai legit sai that entertain this.
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Yeah. I’m not convinced of that, but I do think he’s really I think he’s great on war and immigration. He is. He’s
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a brilliant guy.
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But I do I do think another huge component of why Trump’s got such an opportunity right now is because, like, you just you see it where, like Sai was saying, the protesters aren’t there anymore. There’s a whole lot of really interesting reasons, I think, for why that is. But, also and I was I was getting in an argument, on Twitter the other day with, Michael Tracy, who I do like and respect very meh, ai I was basically saying that I think this is gonna be a death blow for the corporate media if Donald Trump wins again, and this is almost the best thing about him winning again.
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And he was saying, which is a reasonable argument, but I disagree with him. But he was saying, well, no, Dave. I mean, look. Last time he was in for 4 years, that shah was the best thing that ever happened to CNN and MSNBC, and they got a big ratings boost when when he was in.
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But I don’t think that’s gonna work again.
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I don’t
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think it’s gonna work either.
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Well, the thing is that so much of that ratings boost was completely driven by the Russiagate nonsense. Right. And what they were telling you at the time was that they had the biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America. Like, ai you can’t overstate how big that story is. I mean, they were telling you true. Yeah. Right. If if it wasn’t all completely made up.
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But they’re reporting that a foreign hostile foreign power has overturned our election, and the sitting president of the United States of America is in on it. He is involved in a conspiracy with a hostile foreign government. Like, that’s the biggest scandal in the history of Meh.
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And they for for anybody who wasn’t aware at the time of how fake and evil the entire system is, they were like, well, look. They got a special prosecutor on the president. I mean, there must be something there. And, hey, I just heard the the chair of the house intelligence committee tell me he’s seen the evidence and that this is he’s guilty of this.
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And you had the former CIA director John Brennan saying that Trump and his family are gonna be, hold off in handcuffs on television once Mueller’s investigation concludes. And so for the regular person, especially for the regular person who really hated Donald Trump, it was pretty easy to get sucked into that.
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But after that was exposed for being a giant fake, and then the big one is COVID. I just don’t think they can recover.
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Let’s pause here. No repercussions. Yeah. You wanna talk about misinformation. We have to censor social media because of misinformation. Right. You guys spread misinformation to the biggest news organization the biggest news audience in the world. Yeah. And you did it for 3 years.
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Yeah.
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You did it for 3 years. And then when it turned out that it wasn’t true, you never apologized.
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And didn’t just turn out it wasn’t true, but turned out it was actually Funded by Clinton. Well, it start right. It started as opposition research. Yeah. And then the intelligence agencies jumped on that and ai, knowing that it was all bullshit, decided to use it to frame the sitting president of the United States of America of treason.
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And and, listen, I a a few episodes back, one time we heard we went real deep into this, but that claim, it this is just a fact. They lied on the FISA court, the FISA court application to spy on Carter Page, who was a low level adviser for Donald Ram, just an excuse to spy on Trump’s campaign.
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And they lied to the FISA court. They they omitted the fact that the CIA had already told them that Carter Page wasn’t a spy and that he was working with them and that he was one of their good ai. As the FBI went to the CIA and they were like, we have information that says that the Russians approached Carter Page. And the CIA said, yeah. We know.
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He came and told us immediately because he’s working with us. And then what they put on the FISA application is they said, we believe that the Russians approached him, and the CIA confirmed that was true.
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Woah.
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So they which is technically true. It’s a lie by omission.
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You’re you’re you’re meaning the fact that he went straight to them to tell
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us. Exactly. So this that was, by the way, the only guy who actually got charged was the person was the FBI guy who submitted that application. But sai Well, that’s good. That’s. Yeah. But, look, when you said there were no ramifications, right, you’re right in the sense of, like, legally No.
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I mean people getting fired.
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News media.
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Yes. But I’m saying this is the ramification. The ramification is that they’re not gonna be able to pull it off again, And the ramification is that look. They they did everything they could to tell you this was a Nazi. This was the end of democracy. Yeah. But he incited an insurrection, and the American people said, we already get that.
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You’re full
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of shit.
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They cried wolf. Yep. Too many times.
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Way too many times. Way too many times. The Joy Reid stuff was working for Trump. It was working for Trump when she’s calling him a right wing dictator, comparing him to Mussolini and Stalin. And then when Oprah said that if Trump wins, you may never be able to vote again. That is I
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mean, it’s just so weird.
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The craziest thing when you go back and watch him on her show where she was encouraging him to be president. Yeah.
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You ever
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see that? Yep. Yep. I saw
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I I saw it, and then I saw when you played it, fairly recently. Gee, Oprah.
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Yeah. What changed?
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Yeah. That’s right. Well, here’s what changed. All this other well, he became the guy who wasn’t just funding a lot of politicians and being, like, a famous guy, and he became the guy who was calling all of them out and threatening to drain the swamp. Yeah. That’s really was his crime is that he threatened the DC power establishment.
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But it’s crazy how many rich and famous people stepped in line to help them take him out. Yep. Like Well so many famous influential people and I give a pass to Cardi b. I give a pass. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I’m saying? Yeah.
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I agree. I agree.
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I don’t think Amber Rose knows what Trump’s real policies are. You know what I’m saying? I give a pass to some celebrities that come out. But then when you have some of them that are making videos, all the Avengers get together, like, hey, you ai to get me to hate superhero movies?
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You ai to show me your real fucking weird personalities and get me to hate superhero movies? Why are you doing that? If I was running the Avengers, I’d be like, hey, ai. Cut the shit. Do you think one fucking person is gonna vote for Kamala Harris because they saw that Iron Meh wants them to vote for Kamala Harris? Are you fucking crazy?
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Well, it’s so look, man. I mean, did they think that one Puerto Rican’s vote was gonna be flipped because of a joke that Tony made?
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By the way, Puerto Ricans are known for being great insult comics. Yeah. Like, Luis Gomez
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Mhmm.
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Great insult comic. Yep. The fucking Freddie Prinze Junior was a great comic. Puerto Rico has a history of great comedy. They could talk some shit. Puerto if you grew up in New York at all, you know, Puerto Ricans can talk a lot of shah.
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Luis is one of the best shit talkers I’ve ever met. Also, garbage. But it’s also Tony had a point.
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Like Italians. Italian and I’m Italian. Italians and Puerto Ricans have a lot in common that we talk a lot of shit to each other, so we don’t get insulted that much by jokes. It’s not the same thing. Right. Like, it’s very hard to insult an Italian and have it stick. Yeah. It doesn’t work.
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You can
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call them a Guido.
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Again, I’m a Guido. You can
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call them a greaseball. No one cares. You you no one go back to your country.
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I don’t
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no one’s been there in fucking generations.
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It’s also my my wife is Italian and her all my in laws, her whole family is Italian. And it is ai, when you have a dinner, it’s just everyone yells.
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They’re animals.
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Like, everything’s a yell. To the Romans. Ai I’ll literally her her my brother-in-law, who I love, he’s a great guy, super smart, but he will if he’s agreeing with you in a conversation Yeah. And you were, like, in the next room, you would be like, is he about to fight his brother-in-law? Like, what’s going on in there? No.
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He’s just agreeing with what I’m saying, but he’s screaming it at me. You know? But that it but it is a thing where it’s very they’re very thick skinned. They’re not they’re not, like, fragile people. It’s one of my favorite things.
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Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans are are the same way. Also, look at Puerto Rico. Some of the best boxers of all time came out of Puerto Rico. It’s one fucking island. You got Felix Trinidad. You got Gomez, Wilfredo Gomez. You got incredible fighters came out sai one place. You have a fucking tough population, man.
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Yeah.
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It’s not that I mean, I’m sure there was a few people that were pissed off with that joke. But the reality is is one of the things that helped Tony is that joke was based about Tony’s concern for the environment. Tony is obsessed with recycling. He’s like, you know, ai bullshit. You know, it all goes in a landfill. You know, you told you put I’m gonna put it in the blue bin.
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It all goes in the landfill. So Tony was obsessed with the Pacific garbage patch, and then he got obsessed with Puerto Rico because they don’t have any room. So their landfills are just overflowing with garbage. They literally have a giant garbage problem, so he came up with a joke based around that.
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I think it’s called Puerto Rico.
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I I I was texting with him, after it, and I I thought it was so great. I mean, I thought even the, his the bit that he did on Israel Palestine was so funny. He he, ripped both ai. And then he did by the way, same with the Puerto Rico thing. There was an underlying really good point to it, which is always, like, the best comedy when you’re just being funny, but at the same time, you’re, like, oh, and he did kinda nail that too, where he was just, like, why are we funding wars that have been going on forever?
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Like, figure it out, guys. Yeah. And then he just got a great rip on Muslims, a great rip on Jews. And it’s so the way they kicked out Puerto Rican
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is good. In the morning. There’s no opening act. No one knows who’s gonna be coming.
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Yeah. The most difficult setup.
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And there’s no one on before him other than a prayer. They do a prayer. They’re sing they were singing prayers and songs. And then the music stops, and Tony goes on flat to a bunch of people in the middle of the day. Well, yeah. The lights are on bright. It makes no sense. It’s the worst setup of all time for comedy.
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I remember in real time when I was watching it, like, being like sai was ai, well, I mean, Tony is not gonna be able to do Tony in this setup. So, like, I wonder what he’s gonna do. And then, like, as it starts, you’re like, oh, he’s just gonna do Tony. Yeah. Oh, that’s crazy, dude.
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That’s crazy for him.
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It’s the nuttiest thing. Should’ve never done it. But the fact that he did it, whatever. It’s ai, listen, man. There’s gonna be some people that tried to capitalize on that, and that was a big thing. Like, AOC really mobilized, which is funny because I’m almost certain that AOC has been to see Kill Tony.
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Really?
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Yes. Interesting. Almost certain. Almost certain. Wait. Did he hear it in the other show? I don’t think so here, but somewhere saw Kill Tony.
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Well, she probably loves it.
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They’re
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all so far.
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I wonder who let’s call
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them up.
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Alright. Let’s get to the bottom of it. Wait. We have access.
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Call Tony Hinchcliffe. Yeah. Hey, dude. You’re live you’re live on the air right now with Dave Smith. I need to answer a question. I need a question answered. Did AOC ever come to see Kill Tony?
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She says that she did, but we’re almost positive that she didn’t. I never met her in any of the shows in LA. I mean, she could have conceivably have bought a ticket to Madison Square Garden, but she never posted about it.
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Well, she probably wouldn’t post about it. It’s it’s too sketchy. Your your show’s sketchy. But so how do you know that she says that she was there?
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She tweeted that she’s been to a taping. When all that stuff went down, she said that she’s disappointed in me,
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and she’s been
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to a taping. I can’t remember the exact tweet right now. But it was the day of
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the day
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of the Madison Square Garden Trump thing. She posted, I’m really disappointed in Tony Hinchcliffe. I’m a fan of Keltonian. I’ve been to a taping. Something like that. I don’t wanna misquote her ai she would certainly do to me.
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But she’s been there and she was surprised? It makes no sense.
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Yeah. No. Nothing these people fucking say make any sense. They’re out of their goddamn ai, and now their voices are quieted. Thank god.
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Tony, America’s back, baby. America’s back.
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Believe it. Let’s let’s fucking go.
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Let’s fucking go. I gotta go, brother. Love you.
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Rock and roll. Bye bye. Nobody who’s
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ever been to kill Tony would be disappointed.
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It didn’t matter.
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It didn’t make any sense. Political tool.
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Of course. It’s ai, if you need you have a wrench, here’s a bolt. I need it I need to use a wrench. That’s what it was. Ai, so AOC was sending telling people sana it out in all your group vatsal. Let people know. It’s not they’re not but you cannot the most sensitive peep they’re, like, resilient people.
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They’re not gonna people are gonna get upset about a joke, but they’re also gonna understand it’s just a fucking And then when they know and then when some if someone does tell them, oh, Puerto Rico really does have a giant garbage problem. Like, it’s a giant problem, the overflowing lamp. You ever see it?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It’s crazy. Look at the images. You’re ai, oh meh god. You gotta do something about this. You can’t cover your island in garbage. This is nuts.
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Yeah. It’s look. It’s I I just, like I was saying before, though, man, I just I do like I feel like if you zoom out like, if if you look at it closely, you would be ai like, you said with the Sorry. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
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She sai she’s been to mall
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She’s been to shows. Yeah. Wow. Before people try to act like there’s some PC overly sensitive nonsense, which is what it is, I’ve been to kill Tony shows. I’m from ram Bronx. I don’t give a shit about crude humor. Then what are you doing?
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Well Then
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what are you doing? Clearly, you do. Your support for Trump is a joke. Own it. You’re doing a set to support him. That’s a choice. Listen. You guys have a real problem with someone disagreeing with you. Yeah. And you you want to, in any way, shape, or form that’s possible, turn that person to a demon.
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You never wanna have someone who has an opposing perspective that should be considered or maybe countered with better information, which is what we’re all supposed to be doing. Ai, with people of good character and who go into arguments with good faith, you should be able to respectfully disagree and have conversations with things.
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This is ai everybody who thinks one way is bad. Everybody who thinks this way is good. We’ll do whatever we can to destroy the people that are that way. Obama. There was a guy there was a guy at the Trump rally that said the Puerto Rico is a pile of garbage. Those are human beings.
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Like, was that hey. Was that guy maybe telling a joke? Yeah. What do you think?
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Is he
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telling a joke?
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Do you
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know what jokes are? You’re my age. Do you know what jokes are? What are we doing?
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Come on.
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Come on, bro.
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Like, we and What
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are we doing?
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We we all grew up on, like, in in the America of Howard Stern and the Simpsons and all this stuff. It’s not like jokes are foreign to any of us.
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Yeah. We all forgot about Superbad. Was it do we forget about Tropic Thunder? Do we forget how ai things work?
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Right. And, you know, and and to and her point is so stupid. I mean, which she’s like, hey. You’re a Trump supporter. Own it. It’s like, yeah. He’s speaking at a Trump event at Madison Square Garden.
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Nothing to do with the joke.
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Saying just the fact that he’s there clearly already says, yeah, I’m I’m supporting this ai. And then he’s a comedian, so he’s like, I’m gonna do what I do here with it. You know? And if you Exactly. If you sana if AOC wanted to come out and say something ai she’d go, hey. Listen. I’m actually a fan of Tony. I really like the show Kill Tony.
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That shit fucked up. She goes, I don’t think it’s appropriate at a political event.
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And she’d be right.
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Ai comic. That’d be a reasonable thing
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to say.
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Okay. Fuck.
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But I don’t think it was appropriate.
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Yes. But that’s kinda fucking crazy. That’s on the campaign. That’s not a Tony. You know what I mean? And, like so but that’s not what she’s saying. And, again, it’s ai you know? Look. If you to the point you were making before, right, about the the Russia collusion hoax and no one getting in trouble for it.
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If you were to look at, say, the weapons of mass destruction lie that got us into war in Iraq, killed a 1000000 people, cost 1,000,000,000 of dollars and tens of 1,000 of our bravest young men blowing their brains out, you know, just unmitigated disaster. Sana none of the people who who sold that, lost their jobs
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or are, you know, they’re
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not, like, I don’t know what they should be doing. Maybe, like, picking up garbage by the side of the road, apologizing to every car that passes them. I don’t know. Let’s pause for a second and compare.
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There’s people that said that there was weapons of mass destruction. They willfully created this story. It’s sai it’s a fake story.
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100%.
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No one got in trouble. Trump paid off some lady, says he fucked her Yep. And made a bookkeeping error. So he got hit with 34 felonies. Yep. Now if you wanna just be that person sai he’s a convicted felon and just speak it over and over again, understand that now you’re changing what the law means because you don’t like a guy, and that can be used on you.
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This is what happens in dictatorships. This is what happens when communism takes over a country and you get a military dictatorship. They just throw the laws at you. And they’re doing it right in front of your face, and you’re okay repeating it. He’s a convicted felon. He’s a convicted felon.
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He’s a convicted felon for 34 misdemeanors, which arya all the same thing.
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Which weren’t really felonies.
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Which weren’t felonies, and were past the statute of limitations. So Yes. How much do you hate freedom?
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Yeah. It’s not listen. None of the Trump, legal charges were, an example where look. The the former president of the United States of America clearly broke the law. And, we don’t wanna politicize, you know, the the legal system here, but it’s so obvious he broke the law that we have to prosecute him.
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It was we’re coming up with a novel legal theory that we’ve never prosecuted anyone under before. And if you interpret it this way, then we could interpret this misdemeanor that’s past the statute of limitations as a felony that sai now
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how does this not freak out liberals who are obsessed with criminal reform?
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Because they’ve never because that’s not their
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side of the issue. Yeah.
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Just think about how that is.
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It is. One of the best things that I do on the show is when I have Josh Dubin on, who used to work with the Innocence Project Mhmm. And now does things on his own, where they’re trying to find people that have been unfairly prosecuted by bad judges and by bad prosecutors and get them out of fucking jail.
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Oh, can I just say real quick, dude? Because if I don’t I I wanna make sure I say this while we’re here. But to, president-elect Donald Trump, dude, he he came to the Libertarian party convention, this year, and he promised us and a whole bunch of people, myself included, like, supported him, for this, and he he did carry, I think, the libertarian vote.
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He promised us he was sana, free Ross Ulbrich on day 1. And, like, if you’re listening, mister president, if this gets to you, please, please come through on that promise, man. This kid has done over a decade in jail already. His he was guilty of creating a website. You know?
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He it it it was ai a dark web type thing, and Sai guess some people sold drugs on it and stuff. But he he’s done 10 years over 10 years. Yeah.
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Have you ever seen the documentary on that?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It’s interesting because
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it does seem I know his mom. It seems
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like he was railroaded.
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Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
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It seems like they they came up with some sort of a phony murder for hire charge.
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Well, they so they accused him of that, but then they withdrew that charge. He was never convicted of that. He’s he got life without parole ram making a website, and I’ve just I’ve gotten to know his mother, Lynn, over the years, and she’s, like, the sweetest lady, and she’s just in the middle of this nightmare.
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Like, her whole life has been a nightmare for the last 11 years or whatever it’s been. And just I really just please come through on that one. There’s no political capital even to be spent on it. It’s one of the best things he did when he was president last year was, last time was, you know, freeing people who were just in jail on BS and way over prosecuted.
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And he said he was gonna do it on day 1, and I’m just saying we a lot of people supported him for that. I really hope he comes through. That would be amazing.
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Well, we’re gonna know a lot about what he’s gonna do whether he comes through or not.
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Yeah.
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That that’ll tell us a lot. If he comes through, I think a lot of people will be able to hear. Wouldn’t you love to see him on a podcast? Wouldn’t you love to talk to him on a podcast?
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I’d love to. Yeah.
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And ask him questions about what actually happened.
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Yeah. Well,
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look, now that we know, what we know now, ai, the FBI did this whole internal thing with him and they they used people and agents to trap him. But now what we know about what they did with the kidnapping case of Gretchen Whitmer, we didn’t know that before. We didn’t know that you could have a kidnapping case where there’s 14 people and 12 of them are FBI informants.
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So you got 12 people working with the FBI, 2 retards, and you convince these dumbasses that they should go and kidnap the fucking governor, and they’re ai cause playing. These guys are idiots. They they might have been playing fucking game of Dungeons and Dragons in the woods. They’re idiots.
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Well, it’s sai there’s an old saying They’re
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gullible people.
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There there’s an old saying, it goes something like, the FBI always gets their man because it’s always their man. Yeah. You know? Because it’s just ai
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is a lot of that.
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There’s been dozens and dozens of these FBI, what they call, sting operations, which are really entrapment since ai Yes. Where they get, oh, we thwarted another terrorist attack.
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But no,
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they didn’t thwart a terrorist attack. They planned a terrorist attack and then thwarted it. Ai, it was never gonna happen. By the way, a little note on that, every single time I always find this fascinating. Every time the FBI wants to do one of these terrorist entrapment things, which, again, they’ve done dozens and dozens of since ai, every time when they approach, like, young Muslim guys who are, like, on radical websites or something like that, every time, they never go out there and they say, hey.
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How do you feel about America being free and prosperous? Or how do you feel about the fact that we don’t have Sharia law here or anything? They never do that. They always go, how do you feel about American foreign policy? Look at all these innocent Muslims that we’re killing over there in that part of the world. Doesn’t that make you angry?
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Doesn’t that make you wanna do something about it? See, like, when the FBI wants to do entrapment, all of a sudden they know what motivates terrorism. They’re not ai, oh, you hate us for our freedom or the dumb shit that they say to the American public. They know exactly how to entrap these people.
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They go, how do you feel that all these Palestinian babies getting killed right now? You know that’s America’s money and weapons that are doing it
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Yeah.
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And that’s how they get them. But it’s all it’s, if you look at the 1st World Trade Center, attack was all just the FBI screwed it up. Yeah. They were following it the whole time.
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Yeah.
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And then they screwed it up, and they almost took down the towers.
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And if we got to hear Ulbrich’s story, I meh it’d be Wow. Ai different than the narrative that we heard in the courtroom or it was in the documentary. I bet it it’s wildly different, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he got railroaded. Just we know too much now. We know about that case.
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There’s there’s multiple different cases. There’s the Dallas case Mhmm. Where they got that kid to blow up a building. They gave him a fake bomb and a cell phone and he activated they they radicalized that kid. He was just a dumb low IQ kid that’s, you know, 19 fucking gullible. And they they talked him into joining and here’s what we’re gonna do.
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And and then they say they’re preventing ai. Like, you’re actually making it. You’re making it and then stopping it. And that’s sai that’s fucking wrong. You’re cheating.
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You’re rigging the pinball game, man. Fucking you’d you’d and we know that now. So it would be really interesting to his their historic. Yeah. 10 years is fucking plenty.
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Too much. Yeah. Way too much.
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Yeah. No. You can never give that back to him. Yeah. But, like, just let him go free. And it’s also just such a situation where you just you know, and, obviously, like, I’ve I know his mother, so I’m, like, you know, I’m kinda personally invested in it, but it’s, like, this kid is no threat.
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It’s that nobody thinks, like, oh, if we let him out, you know, he’s some type of violent criminal who might do another violent thing or something like that. Like, that’s just not gonna happen. You could just end the nightmare that this sweet woman is going through and and him, of course, too.
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Okay. So we both agree on this, but let me ask you. Okay. What about Snowden? Do you think he has the balls to pardon Snowden?
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Well okay. So the thing about Snowden, right, is that and now the Julian Assange case has kind of been taken off the table, even though, I guess, technically, he could still pardon him. But, that takes real political capital. Now I think he should arya Snowden. How so? But well, I’m just saying that, like, Snowden pissed off a lot of very powerful people. The NSA are furious about him.
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The CIA, they don’t like him, and they do not want to set the precedent that you can release the fact that we’re doing a bunch of illegal shit that we are lying to the American people about, and then you can go tell them that we arya, in fact, doing the thing that we lied and said we weren’t doing.
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They don’t like that. There’s gonna be powerful forces that’ll oppose you. Ross Ulbrich doesn’t It’s not like that. No. No.
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Sai Ai completely understand.
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But If you if he were to pardon Snowden, that would be a real signal that he is willing to take on the deep state. He’s willing to take on the real powerful entrenched interest. Now, again, I’m not claiming to it’s obviously the right thing to do, morally speak, but I’m you gotta have a really smart strategy if you’re actually gonna do this.
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You know, I remember one time, during the Ron Paul, presidential campaign, I think it was in 2012, And someone asked him, you know, like, a question about, like, when you’re in there and you’re president, are you gonna tell the CIA, like, hey, you. You guys are done and you’re this and you’re this. And he went, well, I might say it a little bit nicer than that. It’s like it’s ai, listen.
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I like I am trying to abolish the CIA, but let’s be cool here.
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Well, let’s just face let’s look at this for what it is. So if Edward Snowden, if he really did expose things that were illegal, that were not supposed to be bryden, And the fear of bringing him back is that the people that did the illegal things wanna continue doing illegal things and don’t wanna have any repercussions for doing illegal things.
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That seems like a crazy thing to support even for them to defend it. Sounds insane. They should want internal accountability. They should wanna make sure that no one colors outside the lines, no one does anything without congressional approval, all the stuff you’re supposed to do when you’re doing certain things.
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But the problem is now with the the FDAA and FISA and all these different laws that have been passed that allow surveillance to be done warrantless. Like, it’s kind of a moot point almost at this point. Like, the things that you would like, back then, he exposed that they could listen to every calls.
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They they they have data centers. Mhmm. But we all know that now. Like, it he’s it’s everything’s still functioning, but we all know that now. The guy that exposed all that, leave him alone. You guys were you’re doing illegal shit, and now it’s kind of legal.
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We still should be outraged, but now you can kinda just do it.
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Yeah. Well, and and, also and one of the things that was so disappointing about Trump not pardoning Julian Assange and Snowden in his first term. And and, again, a lot of that is because it’s ai when he told you when why didn’t he release the the JFK files? Well, because he was listening to Liz Cheney’s pick for defense secretary, Mike Pompeo.
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And he was
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people convinced him not to do it. But it’s ai, at a certain point, you’re like, okay. First of all, the spying that Snowden exposed was weaponized against you. Right.
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You know,
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like, they spied on you. So you kinda I would think you have some, like, stake in being ai, yeah. That should be exposed and and should be abolished.
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But don’t you think he didn’t pardon him because he wanted a second term, and he wanted to, like I
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think that was ai of the
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run as smoothly as possibly and should The thing is he also compromising. They’re making deals here.
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Yes. But he also had a lame duck period. I mean, he had a period where he knew he wasn’t gonna have a second term and still had the power, but he was worried about the impeachment.
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And he wanted to run again. Yes. He always wanted to run again. He was gonna run again. He was like Ai
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think so.
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Yes. You. I’m running again.
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Yes. So there’s there’s a fair point to that. Maybe now Donald Trump gets in, and I do think this is what the corporate media and all of them are really terrified about is that now he gets in, and he doesn’t need to win another election. I mean, he’d like to win a midterm election and keep the I mean, he’s got the senate now. We’ll sai.
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The house hasn’t been determined yet, but he’d like to keep, you know, congressional control within the Republican Party. But he doesn’t need to worry about a a reelection now. If he really wanted to do the be the drain the swamp guy
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Yes.
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He’s got an opportunity now where I just, a lot of things have have aligned where it’s ai, I think he could really get it done, and I think he could get away with that. I think that he’s kind of he’s taken all their bullets, both literally and metaphorically. You know? He’s he’s been impeached. He’s been convicted of felonies. He’s been shot at.
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He’s like, all the things have already happened. He’s been demonized in a way that no public figure has been demonized in any of our lifetimes.
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And it’s ai made him more popular.
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Yes. He’s stronger. He’s stronger than he’s ever been.
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What do you think about that thing I sent you today that compares the number of people that voted in 2020 versus number of people that voted in 2024 and in 2016 Sure does look strange. And in 2012. Did have you seen it, Jamie? Yeah. It’s It’s crazy. I would say I could send it to you if you wanna see the exact chart.
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Counted votes.
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That that is a fair point. There are still votes out there.
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I’d like
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to take a look at that again after 100% of everybody has been reported, but it does certainly seem weird.
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Let’s not get technical, and let’s just enjoy.
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I’m gonna I’m gonna send you this, Jay, because it’s so bizarre that I can’t I can’t really believe it’s real. When did I send it to you? Earlier today? Hang on a second. I’ll find it. It’s so crazy. You look at it and you go, there’s is this real? Oh, here it is.
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Because it doesn’t seem to make any sense, because this is, like, one of the most consequential, elections ever. I think everybody’s pretty aware of vatsal, and everybody is very dug in on their side. The left, he’s Hitler. The right, he’s saving us. And so more people voted, at least at least the indication would be as much people voted in 2020, if not more. Probably more people voted.
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But let’s look at the numbers. Like, look at the difference in how many people voted for Biden in 2020. It’s unprecedented. It’s way higher than any other time since 2012. And I’m I’m sure probably before that, there was less people back then. Right?
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So if you go back to when I was a kid, there was only, like, 200,000,000 people in this country.
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Yeah. And and to be clear, 2012 2016 were not low turnout years.
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No. No. They’re all consistent. This is what’s crazy. They’re consistent. Look, they’re all, like, 60 look at look at where the number is. It’s all, like, 65,000,000. Is that what it says? So that’s all the same every fucking time except 2020. In 2020, it goes way the fuck up. Look at it. It’s ai 80 what?
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Is it 82? Is that what it was?
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Ai like 81 and change.
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81. Yep. So it goes up a fucking sizable chunk and only once.
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And it does seem ai even with getting all the other votes in, you’re not gonna get to that.
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But it’s also, like, look how many votes Trump got. He got even more in 2020 than he did in 2024. Mhmm. Like, what the hell is that about? Is that because they haven’t counted all the votes yet when they made this? Or is that the reality of the numbers? Because that doesn’t make sense either.
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Yeah. And well and and, you know, I I just sai you know how in, like, the corporate media world, it’s ai this is the biggest crime ever to even ask this question? But you kinda can’t blame us for asking it when everything you say is a lie.
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The ballots that came in the middle of the night are weird. And the fact that you had mail in ballots, that’s weird. Because the thing about mail in ballots is different than anything else. It’s not a chain of custody. Right? There’s a guy who drops it off and then the postman gets it. Who knows what the fuck that guy does it? They used to be going postal.
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Postman used to be scary because they shoot I meh. Yeah. Ai don’t know how they fixed that.
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But there
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was Yeah.
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Ai did stop.
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Yeah. There was a time. They were, like, fucking separating things by ZIP codes and, like, enough. And they were just killing everybody in their office.
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Do you remember the, old Seinfeld, bit on the show? No.
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Where
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he’s he asked Newman’s a post meh, and he’s like, why do you guys always, like, go crazy and just kill people? He’s like, because the mail never stops. So it’s so funny. It’s just
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He keeps coming. Yeah. That was always my suspicion. It’s just ai a mundane job that’s ai and you’re working with these people you don’t ai, and then one day, like, I’m gonna fucking kill everybody. Yeah. But there’s a bunch of those guys who it became a term. There was a video game called Postal. In the video game, you just ram around shooting people. Yeah.
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It was a crazy game.
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Yeah. Shah was a better time.
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It was but this is ai the nineties that all this was going on and something happened and they stopped fixing it. So ai point is, who knows what that post guy ai doing? Like, you could just throw some stuff in the garbage. If you know you’re in a Republican county, throw some stuff in the garbage.
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If somebody if you’re if you’re a cab driver from some other country and you’re over in America and someone says, I’m gonna give you a bag of ballots. I’m gonna put them in your trunk, and you’re gonna go take them to this place. You know, like, okay. You know, like, you’re gonna give me $500? Okay.
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I’ll drop off these ballots. Like, when you when you’re doing, like, low level scams in, ai, small counties or you have corrupt people that are working the voting machines, how many Republicans are paying attention? How many Democrats are paying attention to the corrupt Republicans? There’s always been election fraud.
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To pretend that we lie about the very fine people he said there are very fine people on both sides. Obama’s lying about that in front of the whole world. They lie about everything. You don’t think they would cheat?
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Well, that’s right. Exactly. It’s if every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie Right. That you can’t tell me that I’m not allowed to speak. And, also, you know, if it’s ai if what Rachel Maddow says is real. Right? Like, if you’re telling me your worldview is essentially that Adolf Hitler is running for president, it looks like it’s a coin flip if he’s gonna win.
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That’s what they were telling us that it it was 5050. Turns out it wasn’t. But Adolf Hitler’s running. This is the end of democracy.
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It’s on the ballot.
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We’ll never have elections again if this guy wins. So if that’s true, then why wouldn’t somebody who’s got a bunch of ballots for him cheat? I would do that if Adolf Hitler was about to win. Ai cheat to make sure he would. If Adolf Hitler’s about to win, you should do anything you can.
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Sai you’re gonna tell me on one hand, Adolf Hitler’s about to take over Meh, and on the other hand, but no one would ever cheat? You know? No one would ever did it.
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Speak the rules to stop Hitler?
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The conversation that people the dumb American pop conversation is, would you murder a baby if that baby was Adolf Hitler? You know what I mean? Like, that’s that’s the pop question that people ask about Adolf Hitler. Yeah. And and I think the implied correct answer is yes.
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You’re supposed to say Ai would murder baby Hitler.
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I’ll wait till he’s 17.
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Yeah. Probably. Feel a little bit better about yourself.
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Yeah. By the time he’s 17, I’d know he’s a piece of shit.
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And you could run a real good experiment on, like, nurture versus nature. Right. Like, raise him loving, be nice. Give him some mushrooms. Yeah. There you go.
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Ai that little
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fucker. But, anyway so but you’re saying someone wouldn’t it’s also it’s it’s ai it’s not even just that they’re liars who are in the business of propaganda. It’s that it’s incoherent propaganda. Your propaganda doesn’t even make sense. Like, if propaganda point a is true, then propaganda point b is impossible to be true. Right.
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It’s and and one of the things that I’m so happy that Trump won, about, you know, is she just needed to lose. Like, this there there’s
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a certain line of of that they crossed that you’re
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like, we need to be in a country where that doesn’t work. Like, that can’t work. But here’s It’s just too far. Here’s one of the most important precedence.
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You can’t have someone that’s running that didn’t go through a primary. Yep. You have to at least go through and respect the process of allowing us to pick who our representative is. No one would have picked her. She didn’t when she was trying to run for president, Tulsi Gabbard nuked her out of orbit, and that was it for her.
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She dropped off a cliff, and that was done. And that’s how it should have been until Biden picked her as his vice president. Get get away from that. You should always have a primary. Like, if you really believe in the Democratic process and if you really believe in the Democratic Party, you should want the best representative of your party as voted for by the population.
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100%. Sana then
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That that you can’t that you can’t have someone bypass that because you have a complete puppet.
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100%. And then on in addition to that, just think about how crazy this is. You’re gonna bypass the democratic process, and then you’re running on democracy is on the ballot. Right. Sai mean, this is just too much. Amazing. It’s too much.
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You wanna, like, punch yourself in the face. Like, you can’t do that to me. You can’t say that.
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Well, they’ve been so used to doing it before. They had full complete control of the narrative because they own the media, and they they own the media for so long. They they had the the run of the roost for so long that they got cocky, And they they didn’t pay attention to the game as it was evolving.
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They’re like a UFC one fighter
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Yeah.
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That, you know, takes time out of the gym then steps into 2024 and tries to compete against guys of today. Like, you missed the game. The game is way past where you were. And you guys are still doing goofy shit, like taking people out of context and not knowing that people are gonna make YouTube clips showing what he actually said versus you, and it’s gonna undermine your credibility even more.
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I’m I I used to Obama was my favorite president. He’s the best spokesman other than Clinton of all time. Now I think he’s a liar.
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Yeah.
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I look at that that thing of him sai, he said there’s very fine people on both sides. That’s not what he said. He said, I’m not talking about the KKK and white supremacists. They should be condemned.
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It was so clear. He made it totally clear. And what he was saying was that there were very fine people on both sides of the arguments about tearing statues down.
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Yes.
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Like, he was saying, look. There it’s reasonable that there are some people who are ai, no. This is our history. We wanna keep it up. And then there’s other people who are like, this represents slavery or something like that. You wanna take it down. And then and then, first off, it was clear when he said it that that’s what he meant. And then they asked him a follow-up question.
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Are you saying the the white supremacists are very fine pieces? Ai goes, no. How many times do I need to say that? Yes. No.
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I am
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not saying that any of the white suprem and, like, that’s not enough. And then there
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was a sneaky thing that they used to do. They would ask him, will you disavow white supremacy? Will you disavow white supremacy? Like, what are you talk first of all, that’s like saying to to someone, like, will you anything, any crime that you would never do. Like, will you disavow murder?
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Like, of course, I’ll disavow murder. Oh, well, well, all of a sudden, you’re implicated at something we have to disavow murder. You’re connected somehow in other to murder now. Dave Smith, under any circumstances, do you disavow murder? You’re like, I’m not murdering anybody. What the fuck are you saying?
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And after he had done it, like, maybe a 100 times, no exaggeration, they’d go, now you still haven’t disavowed white supremacy. And he’d be like, no. I have.
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Over and over again. Now but
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to your point, which I think is a really good one, and I think I love the analogy for people who are MMA fans, it really is ai a it’s like someone coming into MMA in 2,024 and being ai, I’m a jiu jitsu specialist. I’ve never trained wrestling or striking. Exactly. And you’re like, okay. That’s not gonna work anymore. Like, I know that worked in 1993, but, like, that’s not gonna work.
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It’s they have not adapted to the new world that we’re living in now. And you saw there was a lot of evidence of, of this. Like, these things that used to work now come with a heavy price. So one of the things that politicians used to do in general was that they would give, they would give the same stump speech everywhere they go.
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Message discipline is what it’s called, and they you always stay on message. And this is the ai is that you’re never gonna get your message out there unless you say the same thing over and over again to everyone. But now we have the Internet, and you have these compilations of Kamala Harris saying she’s in a from a middle class family, like, 75 times in a row, and you just look like a psychopath.
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You’re ai, oh, what are you so now there’s, like, a cost to playing the game in the old way, but they don’t adjust. And and and Trump, whether even intentionally or not, was always just kinda like, oh, well, I just speak off the cuff. So I I don’t do that. You know? Like, I mean, he’s got themes that he hits a lot, like all of us kinda do.
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Yeah.
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But he he doesn’t do vatsal, and he did and Donald Trump, one of the brilliant things and, man, I mean, I can’t believe I haven’t just asked you this already, about this. But one of the really brilliant things that Donald Trump did, which obviously look. RFK did it, and Vivek Ramaswami, I think both, like, they recognize like, look.
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We’re in a new landscape here, and there are these shows on the Internet that have much bigger audiences than these traditional shows. Oh, and ai the way, I get to go long, and I can really do give an in-depth, you know, like, point on on every single topic. And, dude, I mean, Trump coming on here and her refusing to this is I mean, dude, you kinda put Donald Trump in the White House. Like, this is amazing.
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Settle down.
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People are listening.
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Everyone’s thinking it. Well,
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for sure, him getting to be himself and just have a conversation with someone who’s not being hostile. Yeah. You know? And I did ask him questions that I wanted answers to, ai, this proof that he lost in 2020. He did not provide me with that. And I’ve said and I we talked about it in-depth yesterday that if I was accused of election denying, which election denial, it’s like the there’s holocaust deniers, number 1, and then there’s maybe a vaccine denier and and election denier.
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Election denier is probably a little higher than vaccine denier. You could be a kook and a vaccine denier, but still believe that Donald Trump lost election. But election denier, you’re cast out of the kingdom. There’s a couple other ones that go underneath that, but those are the big ones. Those are the big ones.
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And you get put into a box, like, instantaneously. If I was put in that box, I would have responses to every question. I would say, well, in Georgia, there was ballots that were this was this would have been these these people were dead. These people they they should have never been voting in the 1st place. They were not, United States citizens.
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I would have all the information ready to fire, and he didn’t. He was ai, there’s books. I tell you that I have the suspicion that he’s he’s he’s way busier than me, and I can barely pay attention to things. Yeah. Sometimes Sai agree to do things. My wife tells me we’re gonna do something. What are we talking about? She was, you said yes to it. Yes, sir.
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I did when? You were making coffee. I wasn’t paying attention. I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Where are we going?
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You know, but that’s just normal life stuff. Right? This guy is literally running for fucking president. He’s got what? All these golf courses everywhere and businesses everywhere and Mar a Lago and fucking family. There’s Yeah. Millions of things. So probably, they told him the election was stolen.
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He told me, find the results. Find it. Let’s get it overturned. These fucking criminals. I don’t know how much he really looked into it. I don’t know.
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I know I don’t know how much he studied it because Sai
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He didn’t really have an answer for you.
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Ai would want you to regurgitate it fact by fact, and I think Vivek could do that. If you ask Vivek a question about that, if you ask JD Vance a question about that, I bet if they were accused, they would be able to rattle off all those numbers and statistics.
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I I think that Vivek probably wouldn’t make the claim exactly in the same way Donald Trump does. Accused. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Well yeah. No. Vivek isn’t gonna say anything without having 100%. Ai answer to it. That’s not Trump. That’s not Nor
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is JD.
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Yes. Listen. Trump is different than Vivek and and JD. He’s a different type of animal.
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I mean
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sai much evidence.
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Well, the thing is one of the things that was really interesting and that was one of the most interesting, moments of your your show with him was that you weren’t asking it the way CNN would ask it. You weren’t badgering him and, like, kind like, you were after having a very sana, good faith conversation for a while, you were asking in good faith, like, what’s the and, yeah, he’d look.
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I think the truth is that his lawyers made a lot of outlandish claims, none of which they could prove in court. Essentially, what he has in terms of the argument, I think, is kind of what we have, what we just looked at. We’re ai, sure does look strange. Sure does seem weird to me that 80,000,000 plus people voted for for Joe Biden, and the regime was so working against him in every other way.
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Like, you know, Glenn Greenwald, who’s, you know, Ai I think just one of the absolute, like, most brilliant people out there.
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Ai
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work is incredible.
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01:03:15
I love that guy.
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I love the way he put it. I thought it was perfect, where he goes, he’s ai, like, I don’t really have any evidence that they stole the election from him, but they clearly rigged the thing against him. And then just kinda goes through, like, all the censorship, the Hunter Biden story, the the media. And so in that environment, it’s very easy.
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You know, the the analogy that I use I think I may have said this before to you, but it’s almost like if, if there’s a guy who’s, like, cheating on his wife all the tyler, and then one day, she’s ai, last Ai, you didn’t answer your phone when you were out. I know you were cheating on me. And she’s wrong. He wasn’t cheating that Friday.
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Right.
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But, like, she’s kinda right even though she’s wrong. Right.
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You know
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what I mean? Like, she she might get the detail wrong Yeah. But her overall suspicion is in fact correct.
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Yeah. I
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think there was a lot of that with Trump supporters which is like, listen, man. You framed him for treason for 3 years of his presidency, then you you shut down the economy, and that was totally, partially at least, to ruin his economy for his reelection year. Then you were totally supporting the riots that were destroying you know, like, you were just causing chaos.
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Then you overhauled the way we do votes, and you killed his big October surprise story by censoring it off all the social media sites. Mhmm. You and now you’re telling me the most unimpressive senator in the history of America, Joe Biden, got 80 +1000000 vote. He got more votes than Obama in 2008. Really?
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Like, this just smell but that is not something you can take to court.
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Right. That’s not something you can say definitively as a fact and defame people and slander people.
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Right.
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And that’s where Giuliani’s fucked. Right? Giuliani got hit with a huge lawsuit. How much was it? Like, a 150? I don’t remember.
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It was a lot. But, it but yeah. But also, Rudy Giuliani is a lawyer, and he should know that, like, you kinda can’t say that unless you got something to really present, with the power
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of is by presenting the evidence. You should even make claims. You should probably just present the evidence.
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Well, they were saying I mean, Sydney Ai, I think that’s her name.
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01:05:17
Ai. And and Giuliani $148,000,000 damages verdict adds to Rudy Giuliani’s, over his legal ai about 2 Georgia election workers. So what did he say that these ladies did? So this is a defamation suit? It must be. What did he say that they did? Defamation case brought by 2 former Georgia election workers marks a new low point for the man once lauded as America’s mayor whose advocacy of Donald Trump’s false election claims led to criminal charges and hefty legal bills.
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01:05:44
What did they what did he say that they did? He what did he say? What did he say? Let’s find out what his, statements were. See if you can find it.
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01:06:00
Remember when Ron Paul destroyed Rudy Giuliani on the debate stage?
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Here it says Giuliani He vatsal
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this is different, I think.
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Accuses him participating in ai range conspiracy to thwart the will of Georgia’s voters who had selected Democrat Joe Biden over Republican incumbent. He faces 13 charges including violation of Georgia’s anti racketeering law, the federal version of which was one of his favorite tools as a prosecutor in the 19 eighties.
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That’s crazy. Because he he’s the one who took out, like, the mob. Yep. Jesus Christ. So but let’s find out what he said if we can. I’m interested.
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Isn’t it annoying that they make it so hard to find, like, the actual thing? Yeah. Lies he spread about them that that upended their lives with racist threats. Well, what were the lies? What did he say? When it says upended their lives, click on that link. See what it says.
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01:06:52
Georgia election worker suing Rudy Ai tells jurors that his lies made her fear for her life. So what the fuck did he say? Repeated false claims about her and her mother saying that they were engaged in changing votes. I personally cannot repair my reputation at the moment because your client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further, she told Giuliani’s lawyer. She sobs.
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She testified that her life was turned upside down by the accusations, though they were quickly debunked by state officials. Her attorneys displayed a few of the graphic messages accusing her of treason and more that she received after Giuliani in December of 2020 falsely accused workers at State Farm Arena in Atlanta of tampering with ballots.
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01:07:39
Yeah. You gotta have real evidence if you wanna say something like that.
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And again, Rudy Giuliani is a a lawyer. Like, he should know that. You know?
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01:07:49
California’s only reported 54% right now. So that’s somewhere in the range of 9,000,000 plus votes, but that’s the biggest missing.
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Oh, so far still? Yeah. How do they not count at all?
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Only 54%. Meh.
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No. This is updated too.
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01:08:03
How are they what why ai they so slow? They suck at everything over there now.
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01:08:06
ai for Nevada, 73 or something for Washington and Oregon. Oregon’s at 62%. So they still have a lot to go up there.
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Ai. Sai we’ll see what these numbers look ai.
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But at the end of the day so there it might still be more millions. Yeah. So it might get close to the 80,000,000 mark? Ai be interesting to sai because that that then that’s a misleading chart. I didn’t know that there were so many that hadn’t turned in their votes yet. That doesn’t surprise me about California. Get your shit together, you fucking dorks.
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01:08:35
Yeah. They can’t do anything.
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01:08:36
They’re charging 14% in state taxes, then another 1% if you live in Los Angeles, the city of Los Angeles. You get hit with another 1%. Dude, that’s ai agent and manager fees, you know? Yeah. Can you imagine, like, you make a good amount of money. Like, say let’s say you make a $100,000 a year, you have to pay a 140,000 to the government for what? For what?
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And then if you move to Tennessee, 0. Move to Texas, 0.
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And they wonder why people are flooding out of their state by the 100 of thousands.
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You can’t even count the votes in time, you fucking knuckleheads. Like, what are you doing?
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Yeah. No. They can’t do anything.
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01:09:15
That’s such a goofy state just overburdened with regulations. You can’t even have flavored vapes anymore.
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Yeah. That’s true.
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01:09:25
Little Billy’s hooked on the strawberry mist. You gotta take it out of the store to protect my little Billy. It’s the strawberry that gets them. You can’t have flavored Zins.
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01:09:36
Well and isn’t it sai, like, the whole, like, war on tobacco, which Ai guess vapes aren’t tobacco, but, the whole, like, you know, like, crackdown on smoking and everything that ai happened in my lifetime is it’s really, really wild when you take into account all the stuff that Bobby Kennedy talks about.
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01:09:56
Oh, yeah.
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Where you’re
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like, yeah. But we’re, like, the most unhealthy country. And you took away like, yeah. A lot more people used to smoke cigarettes, and cigarettes aren’t good for you. Sure. But we were a healthier country when people
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01:10:08
were smoking cigarettes. Need regulation. My little Billy and his strawberry paste. Do you ever use Zinn’s? Occasionally. No. These are Lucy’s. These are espresso flavored. This is contraband in California.
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Are these These are Peet’s. Wait. Are these the Tucker Carlson ones?
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01:10:24
No. No. No. This is another company, Lucy’s. These are Breakers. They have a little thing in there. You break it. It gives you flavor. It tastes like coffee. Go ahead. Break it. Alright. Bite down. Chew on it. Oh, yeah, baby. Illegal in California. Right here, we’re in Texas.
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01:10:38
This doesn’t seem this doesn’t seem like it should be illegal. Freedom. Freedom in Texas.
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01:10:42
No. If you want flavor, you have to have that and a stick of gum. If you live in California, you could get your cinnamon gum and you could chew your cinnamon gum with your fucking no flavors zen and you could have a nice little experience almost like you have a cinnamon zen, but you’re not allowed to have a cinnamon zen because you’re too much of a fucking baby.
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01:11:00
You can’t control yourself.
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Well, it’s not and you
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can’t sleep either.
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You fucked. Dude, I mean, you know, I’m on the road all the time. Yeah. Ai. Sai was I and you go throughout this whole country, and it’s ai, speak. People don’t smoke anymore. That was effective. I mean, they not like the way they used to. You know, there’s not people smoking cigarettes like that. No.
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But every single town I go to in this entire country has an Arby’s and a Burger King and a KFC and like, they have every single town. Even when they have nothing else
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Yep.
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They have every single type of fast food. And you you look around and, like, everybody’s obese. Everyone’s unhealthy. I mean, when you rattle off you know, when when Bobby Kennedy gave that speech when he threw his support behind Donald Ram, and I was watching that with, my wife and my mother-in-law.
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They both, like, have tears in their eyes as he’s just reading down the stats of how unhealthy we are as a country. It’s just you know, man, one thing and I’m really, really glad that, that Bobby ran for president this year, and I’m really glad he ended up throwing his support behind Ram, and, hopefully, he gets a really important position in there.
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But the one thing that I almost felt like you couldn’t argue with him that even if you don’t blame the same culprits that he blames, which is what they love to to sai, it’s ai, how is everyone not talking about this? How is this not an issue that every single presidential candidate has to address?
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01:12:23
It’s killing people.
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01:12:24
Yeah. Terrible kids.
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It’s killing kids, and it’s making people way more vulnerable to a host of other diseases, including cancers. It’s terrible for you. Cardiovascular, ai, the 77 percent, I think, Bobby said, 73% of all, American boys are not eligible for the military. So they are unfit to serve because they’re either obese or they have a host of these metabolic conditions that have come about from poor diet Yeah.
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And from poison, from eating poison. Essentially, you’re eating you’re slow dosing your body with poison and sugar all day long, and that’s most people. And we don’t do anything about that, but then we try to regulate vapes.
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01:13:07
Yeah. Have you do
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you know a vape?
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01:13:09
Do you know Nicole Shanahan?
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01:13:12
Yes. Ai haven’t met her in person, but, I actually did a FaceTime with her, and I think Willie d from the ghetto boys. Really? Really?
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That’s an odd pairing together. I think she’s great. I had her on my podcast a couple ai, and it’s just yes.
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77% of young Meh between the 8 age of 17 and 24 are not considered fit for military service. Unbelievable, dude.
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01:13:35
Only 11s physical health
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01:13:37
11 health well, mental health, and that’s to sai substance abuse, education, social and behavioral factors, criminal records. US military is facing a recruitment crisis due to these challenges as well as a lack of interest among young people. So it’s, only 11% is, like, physically so unhealthy that they can’t do it. That’s obesity actually. So there’s probably a bunch of other conditions other than obesity. Right.
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01:14:04
Mental health issues, Ai wonder it says significant factors. I wonder what number that is. I bet drug and alcohol abuse is a big one. Yeah. That’s a big one.
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01:14:15
It says 8% for drug and alcohol abuse. So I wonder how much the mental health is. I bet that’s a big one. Doesn’t say, does it? Let’s find out because that seems like there’s a lot of people out there with mental health conditions. Meh, physical health, drug and alcohol abuse, 8%, medical, physical health, 7%.
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01:14:37
What does it say about meh, though? Mental health and overweight conditions? Oh, they are 4% mental health, 7% medical, physical only, 8% drug abuse, 11% overweight. Wow.
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Did she, Nicole Look
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at this 44%, though, more than one reason or condition. 44, almost half, more than one of these problems that that makes you ineligible.
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01:15:08
That’s crazy. I was, I can’t remember what town I was in. But, so Nicole Shanahan, who I I think she’s great, and, it was really, really interesting. Ai I had her on my podcast ai. Just really, really smart lady who’s really knows a lot about this stuff. So she sent me this, like, video that she posted, and so I’m in a hotel ram, and, I was there with, my my buddy Rob Bernstein, who’s a cohost of my podcast, part of the problem.
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Very, very funny comedian, very smart guy. And so we’re I’ve literally I I was texting with him, and we were, like, on our way to go to the show. So I was like, hey. Meet in the lobby in 10 minutes. And then I got an Uber taking us to the comedy club. I can’t remember where we were.
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01:15:51
And Nicole Shanahan sends me this video. It was ai a video that she put out on Twitter. I didn’t know what it was gonna be. You know? She just sent me it, and I just click on it and play it.
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And it was just about, like, what her family went through with their kids, you know, like like illnesses and stuff, and it’s this and it’s the most touching video ever. And I’m literally sit down it’s so powerful that I sit down, and I’m just watching this whole thing. And I started crying watching it because I I got kids with health issues really cuts close to the bone for me.
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But as I’m sitting there just, like like, literally sobbing watching this video, it’s so emotional. And tyler literally it just dawns on me in the middle of it that I’m supposed to meet my comedian friend in 1 minute in the lobby to go to this show. And I’m just sitting here, like, what am I doing? I’m sitting in my hotel room crying about these kids.
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But, anyway, the point of of it is is that, like, hey. Look. I don’t know enough about this stuff. You know, I know about stuff that I know about. I don’t I don’t know enough about this. I really should educate myself more on it.
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But if your argument is that, like, that Bobby and Nicole are blaming the wrong culprits, you know, it’s not the vaccines and it’s not the the Wi Fi and it’s not the the like, okay. I don’t know. But, like, what is it then? And why are you not interested in this?
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Right. Why are
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they the only ones who are talking about this? You’re telling me we lead the world in chronic illness, and that’s not something that comes up in any presidential election ever other than when Bobby Kennedy runs for president? That’s insane.
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01:17:18
You don’t think the increase in the number of autism cases is a an area we should discover, we should look into, we should investigate? You think that that’s all been figured out?
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01:17:31
Like, why are
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you so convinced?
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01:17:32
And explain I’m sorry. I’m I’m I’m letting you know that I’m I’m somewhat ignorant on this subject. So just, like, explain it to me like I’m really, really stupid. Talk slowly. They can’t do it. I can understand where if you’re talking about, very mild autism, okay, like what we used to call Asperger’s, which I guess they don’t call that anymore.
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01:17:51
But if you’re talking about mild autism and you wanna convince me that that went undiagnosed in the past, I can totally believe that. There is no way that moderate or severe autism went under it may have not been correctly diagnosed, but you did not not notice that. Like, I’m sorry.
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Enough of a rise in numbers that it should be a
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01:18:10
concern for everyone. I’m saying there’s no possible way that there isn’t an increase going on here. Because, obviously, even even in the 19 forties or in 19 fifties, if someone was nonverbal, they would have noticed that. Yeah. They would have noticed that this you know what I mean?
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01:18:28
Like, if there
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was a lot kids like that in your school. You would know.
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01:18:30
There’s no way. You would have called it something. Maybe you wouldn’t have, like, understood it the way we understand it today. And and thank god people do understand it better, and there’s a lot more, there’s a lot more tools that are provided, and there’s a lot more awareness about it and and and special schools and things like that.
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01:18:47
But come on. Like, there’s you know, so much of this is, it’s one of the one of the things that exposes the how how full of shit our whole system is is when you just see that there’s no even desire to get to the bottom of this. It’s like the Trump assassination attempt.
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01:19:04
But not only that.
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No desire.
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There’s no desire to get to the bottom of it, and it’s about children Yeah. Which are the most vulnerable people that we all should be protecting. But they’re so entrenched in this ideology that you have to trust science. And if you’re a vaccine denier, you’re a bad person. Like, no one’s a vaccine denier.
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01:19:20
What we’re saying is there may be a correlation, and there may be something that if investigated, it shows has been covered up. And there may be a situation where the vaccine companies have complete immunity to prosecution.
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01:19:35
Yeah.
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They can never be held liable, which was the only way that they could still manufacture these things because they said that they cannot be safe and effective. Yes. It is. They cannot be safe for everybody. There’s gonna be side effects.
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That’s exactly right, dude.
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And they can’t be liable for those side effects because then they would go under. This is, like, this is what set this whole chain in motion where when I was a kid, you got 3 vaccines. Now you have 72.
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01:19:59
Right. It’s wild. And it’s and it reminds me kind of of, you remember, like, when they were trying to push the COVID passports, the vaccine passports, and the logic would just fall apart on
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its face.
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Like, you’re like, wait a minute. You’re like, you you’re telling me the vaccine is 100% effective. You’re saying if you take the vaccine, you can’t get COVID or spread COVID, and then you’re also telling me that the people who are vaccinated in this restaurant need to be protected from the unvaccinated entering this restaurant.
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01:20:23
That doesn’t make sense. No. I’m sorry. I’m not a genius, but I can figure out the logic in that does not is flawed. Okay?
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01:20:30
Also And
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in the same in the same sense, though, it’s ai, so what is the if you’re arguing that all these vaccines are safe and Bobby Kennedy’s a kook, then why do they need the liability protection?
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01:20:40
Yes. Absolutely. There was also another thing that they did that didn’t make any sense because it went against the ai. And they were saying that if you don’t get vaccinated, it’s going to cause variants, and that’s not what they say. Yeah. What with people who study viruses and vaccines sai is you do not vaccinate during a pandemic with a non sterilizing vaccine.
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01:21:03
So meaning, if a vaccine if you give it to someone and they could still transmit and they could still catch the disease, you’re going to cause Right. These variants. And there is a scientific paper that I posted, like, the early into the pandemic that said this and people got so upset at me.
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01:21:20
I’m like, tell me what this says. What this said well, there’s virologists that would go on these podcasts that, you know, they’d have to be the people that willing to step outside the line and say these things. They’re saying this is not what you ever do during a pandemic because you’re going to create variants and that’s exactly what happened.
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01:21:37
And people start doctors started blaming the variants on the unvaccinated. But if you question those doctors, explain to me how that works. There’s no fucking answer. It’s just a narrative that they were have to vaccine, good. Anything else, bad. Ivermectin, you’re crazy. Killing people. Death, blood on your hands.
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01:21:54
It was all a psyop, and it was super effective. And it was a way for them to make ungodly amounts of money, and that’s what it was. And the quicker we accept that and realize that we’re vulnerable to that kind of shah, if we still keep following along the same ai of lines that we’re on today, if If as soon as we realize that, the better off
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01:22:13
we all are. All of us. Yeah. And I think I think I got here in a ai similar way to you, which is, I think, a story for, like, millions of Meh, is that I never even thought about this issue. I never dove into reading a lot about any vaccine until there was this COVID vaccine.
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01:22:33
And then I really dove into it and read a lot about it and found out that you guys were lying through your fucking teeth about the whole goddamn thing and that the whole clinical trials were totally rigged and totally fake and that you were able to get everybody in the, like, the the scientific institutions of our government to all repeat these lies and then everybody in the corporate media and the political class to repeat these lies.
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01:22:57
And then when Bobby Kennedy came along and said, well, you know how that was all bullshit? There’s a lot of bullshit with these other vaccines. I was like, I’m listening. That doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.
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01:23:07
It doesn’t seem unreasonable at all. And the fact that they were trying to silence legitimate scientists, doctors, professors at major universities for stepping outside the lines. They were trying to remove them from Twitter. They were trying to silence them. They worked in conjunction with the original Twitter to do that.
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01:23:23
They silenced the real experts, you know. And when that lady from Twitter had to testify in front of Congress, it was amazing. That was amazing. And watch those people grill her. Like, are you a doctor? Like, why are you silencing doctors?
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01:23:38
Like, shah was the sai that was the same, the one you had on. Right? With Tim Pool? Yes. And and one of the interesting things about that was, which is that was a great still probably one of my all time favorite JRE episodes. But it was when, you know, when she was they were, arguing that, like, they don’t have a bias. Mhmm. And then, I think Tim was like, yeah.
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01:23:58
But you ban people for, like, dead naming or misgendering.
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Right.
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01:24:02
And she was like, well, yeah. I mean, that’s that’s hateful. And you’re like, yeah. But that’s a bias. Like, that right there is a bias. That’s a bias. And it’s one thing when you’re just talking about, like, whether we’re calling somebody a boy or a girl, but then you realize, like, oh, you have the exact same thing when it actually comes to, like, very important medical information about a product that Americans are being forced to take.
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01:24:22
Right. This is madness.
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01:24:24
No matter what you say, they’re being forced. They’re being forced if they wanna fly. They’re getting forced if they wanna work in a place that has more than a 100 people, if the workplace mandates it, forced if they sana go to a university. Forced, forced, forced.
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01:24:35
And and they were they were implementing in a totally unconstitutional way, they were going to through OSHA, through workplace safety, like, just the the most blatantly unconstitutional, proposal that Joe Biden was going to make it the law of the land that every single business with a 100 people or more had to have everybody vaccinated. And it was only because of Donald Trump’s supreme court that that got struck down. And that’s something that people who are paying attention remember. And so, like, okay.
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01:25:07
You can demonize Donald Trump all you want to, but how many millions of Americans were not fired from their job, did not lose their livelihood because they refused, or were not vaccine injured for a vaccine that they never needed to take? I mean, how many people fell into the category that, like, me and you and so many other people fell into where we got the thing and beat it real quickly before we ever got vaccinated and just didn’t need it.
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And then
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01:25:34
we’re just didn’t make any sense even even with the information we had about the vaccine back then, which we have a lot more now. But even back then, I mean, you were you looked CNN’s doctor right in the eyes, and he goes, well, are you gonna get the vaccine? You go, no. I just beat COVID. Why would I need to? And he had no answer for you.
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01:25:51
Meh had no reason why there’s no compelling reason
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01:25:53
why you should.
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01:25:54
Join the team.
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01:25:54
That’s it. That’s it. Yep.
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01:25:56
They ai I mean, I had a very intelligent friend that I had a conversation with. You’re gonna get vaccinated now? Ai go, why would I do that? It was a weird conversation. I go, I beat it in 3 days. Like, I wasn’t even that sick, man. Like, I made a video 3 days later explaining, and I got in trouble because I took the wrong medication to get better.
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01:26:12
Are you guys out of your fucking mind? Like, if you re if you were really worried about people’s health and safety, when you say, hey, what’s this 57 year old guy doing getting over this so easy?
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01:26:22
Right.
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01:26:23
What’s he doing different? Oh. What’s he doing different? And you go,
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01:26:25
oh, he’s very serious about his health. Oh, he takes really good care of himself. By the way, I had you enjoyed me giving the business to Chris Cuomo over there. That was one of my favorite favorite moments this year. That was a good one.
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01:26:37
He was trying to do CNN outside of CNN. Mhmm. You know, like, when he sai, and I’ve never said that. And then they pull up the clip, like, immediately with him demonizing.
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01:26:46
Shout out to, Patrick Bet David’s, crew because they really had my back on that one. Yes. You know, it’s not ai Sai didn’t send them that clip before or anything. But they they in real time in real time had that ready to go. They
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01:26:58
had a Jamie too.
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01:26:59
Yeah. Yeah. They had everybody’s got a Jamie now.
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01:27:02
Not Jamie.
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01:27:02
Not Jamie. There’s only one Jamie. Right?
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01:27:03
There’s only one there’s only one Jamie, but there’s a lot of of, knock offs.
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Yeah. A lot of knock offs. But the fact that you checked him in real time and he just had to sit there and eat it. It’s just they were puppets. They were puppets for the system. They were doing it because that was their job. That’s how you get ahead in your career. You wanna be the main guy at CNN. That’s what you do. And that’s what they were doing, and now he’s not doing it anymore. Good luck to him.
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I hope he does stay on an independent path and and becomes an objective person. He’s he’s made some ai towards that, I think. I think he’s taking some fucking lumps, and I think you beat the fuck out of him in that debate. That debate was, Mike Tyson’s early fights. Sai fucking we should see that fucking white dude with the muffin top. It’s flat ai in 15 seconds. That’s what that was.
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Ai just mean look, man. And it’s not really, like, a comment on me. It’s not that I’m so amazing at debates. It’s just, like, the argument here is
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so weak. Debates.
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You’ve been pretty good
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at it.
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I’m pretty good at it. I’m not bad at it.
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But, also
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But I I’m just right about facts.
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Facts were on your side.
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Yeah. I
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mean, that’s that that’s ai my superpower isn’t that I’m, like, the smartest guy or the best at debates. It’s just that, like, I’m I’m right in what I’m arguing, and that makes it much easier. You know, I got, there was a, an organization that was pitching me on a debate, a 2 on 2 debate, which I don’t really like doing, 2 on 2 debates.
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I’ve done, like Too many
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people talking?
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It’s too much. Yeah. Yeah. 1 on 1 is the way to do it. But they they pitched me just, like, months after that. I think it was if I’m not wrong, I think the topic was about whether Joe Biden should drop out of the race or not, and they pitched me that it would be a 2 on 2 debate, against 2 people.
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I don’t remember who who were saying he should stay in, and it was gonna be me and Chris Cuomo against them. And I told them I was like, no. No. I will not be on his side. And, like, I don’t you know, I I’m kinda for you know, I I Yeah. We had our thing.
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I gave him a beating. I think he deserved it, but I’m just like, listen, man. I’ll team up with, like, a left winger on something I agree with. I’ll team up with a right winger on something I agree with. I’ll I’ll team up with, like, a moderate on something I agree with.
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But, no, not the corporate media guy who was the number one show at CNN. Like, I’m not on their side. Even if I’m on their side on this issue, I’m against them. And I I know that this has probably been a theme of, like, every single time I’m on this show over the last 10 years or whatever it’s been.
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But I just and maybe it’s a problem, Ai. I hate them so much, and I really think they deserve it. And it’s not just that they lie about everything. It’s like they lie about everything, and then they have the nerve to to morally judge us. Like, if you just watch even just the last few weeks of the the Trump election, it’s they’re not in the business of reporting the news.
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They’re totally just in the business of making you feel like you’re a bad person if you don’t fall in line with the regime. Right. And, you know, like, it’s like all of us know. Right? Everybody knows this. America has this giant war machine. Right? Like, we’re just always at war.
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We’re the most war hungry country in the world. Even if we’re taking a little bit of a break from a war, we’ll fight 2 more proxy wars while we do that. America looks back at the nineties, Bill Clinton, as the time of peace and prosperity. We call it peace because we only fought a war in, like, Serbia and had a blockade around Iraq and were, like, bombing the crap out of Iraq with a few other military interventions in there too.
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You know, the UN estimated when that Bill Clinton’s sanction and bombing regime of Iraq Okay? Everyone just thinks of George h w Bush’s war and w’s war, but Bill Clinton was bombing Iraq his whole and he had a full blockade around the country. The UN estimated that 500,000 children died of starvation or malnutrition due to the blockade. Now I’ve I’ve heard people argue, by the way, that that number is exaggerated.
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Maybe it wasn’t 500,000. It was only a 100,000. 1000. So Yeah. So that’s the time that we consider peace when we were just starving a 100,000 children to death in Iraq.
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And you, everybody in the corporate media, are in the business. Every single one of those wars, you’ve sold them. Everyone. My entire life, the media has sold those wars. And you’re gonna morally look down on meh? You’re gonna judge me? Motherfucker, you’re in the business of baby murder. Get the fuck out of here.
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You’re looking down judging an American because I maybe I’m gonna vote for Donald Ram, or maybe I dare to question the results of the last election. Fuck you, dude. And and, man and it was a challenge debating him because they were playing the clips, you know, even before they played that clip that summoned him because he had said he didn’t say that and then he clearly did.
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But they were just playing the clips of the way they were talking to people, during COVID and the pandemic of the unvaccinated. And it’s you, mister vaccine skeptic. You’re the reason why this and, man, it was getting me angry. Like, I was just like, alright. I gotta I gotta control this here because this is too ai,
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Sai sweet is it that he’s on Ivermectin now?
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Ai meh, it’s
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How sweet is that though? That is the nuttiest part of it all.
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Could you just set someone up for a better
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Meh wants to say long COVID. Like, hey, buddy. Let me tell you something.
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If you got a novel medication injected into your
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body more than once, you probably had to do it twice. You’d probably meh into your body more than once, you probably had to do it twice. You probably at least had to get one booster. And you have some problem, and you’re saying this long term problem is COVID, long COVID. Are you sure?
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Are you sure? Or maybe that medicine they injected into your body, you got vaccine injured. Yeah. You don’t wanna say that though because you still want some sort of a job in corporate media, so you have to tow the line. You should be very concerned that this novel before never mass injected into people.
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Who knows how many different people are gonna have different results from some medication, some terrible fucking weird way their biology interacts with this meh. It’s gonna cause a horrible side effect. And now you’re on Ivermectin to treat that. That’s rich.
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And and the the way he tried to speak it, that he wasn’t but but but he tried to say because, I mean, he was so he really should’ve just thrown in the white towel. He he would’ve done much better for himself saying that debate. If you go listen. I was at CNN, and I kinda just took for granted that they have the best experts.
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And so I trusted their experts, and now I realized they were if he had said that, that would have been very hard. Ai I still would have been harsh on him, but it would have been a different conversation and a different dynamic. What he did was he refused to admit vatsal, and then and this is really what got meh, is that then he started kinda, like, attacking my motives.
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Like, he was like, oh, yeah. No. He goes, I know that, you know, this is probably good for your podcast numbers and stuff, but blah like, as if I’m I don’t really believe what I’m saying.
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Well, because that’s how
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doing this to make money.
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They function. Right. That’s why they’re accusing you of functioning doing things just because you know they’re gonna be outrageous and get a lot of views.
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Which is but, you know, like, you know meh. I’m I don’t do that. I don’t do that.
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Yeah. I don’t do that.
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No. I know you don’t. I know
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you don’t. In the world,
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and I don’t do anything based on how many views I think it’s gonna get. That’s a fact.
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Yeah. And you you don’t ai there is nothing I say that I don’t believe. I might be wrong about some stuff, but I everything I say, I believe. I’m not, like, ever saying anything because just, like, oh, this will, you know, like, bring in bigger numbers or something like that.
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They think that way. That’s why he’s accusing you of that. Yeah. Because, like, that’s that’s a motivation for people that are in that industry. If you’re in the fucking industry of being a mouthpiece for network news, like, there’s a very narrow window of behavior that you have to operate under.
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You have to, like, you have to stay inside these lines and the whatever if you’re on Fox or if you’re on CBC CNBC or whatever it is, Meh, saloni well, you have a narrative. They have a narrative in the office. There’s a culture.
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There’s a
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way people think about that, and this is your job. So you’re gonna do the things that you think are gonna get you more ratings. You’re gonna do the stories that are gonna get people more outraged. That’s how you’re thinking. It’s the wrong way to think when you’re on the Internet.
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And they also have, they there’s a real incentive to never consider, like, what I said about them being in the baby murder business because that’s, you know, that’s pretty rough ai think of yourself as that. And, you know, I remember, this one time I watched a, a documentary on abortion, and it was, like, a very pro choice.
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How much free time do you have? This was
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this was before I had kids. This was before I had kids. I had so much free time before I had kids.
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If I’m gonna unwind in front of the TV, that’s the last thing I wanna watch.
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I’m a weird guy, Joe. But but that’s what I was that’s what I do.
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I might, though.
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But, well, it was it I forget where where it was. Ai might have been on Netflix or something.
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Know what was going on.
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Well, I was I was kinda interested in the the subject and, you know, was before I had kids. But I I remember I was watching. I had a very pro choice bryden. And there was this abortion sai this abortion doctor, this lady, and she was ai, she was like, listen. I’ve bryden, an an abortion doctor for 30 years, and let me just tell you something. There is no moral issue with having an abortion.
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It’s a thing in a petri dish. It’s not a human being. But I remember just watching and being like, well, yeah, but, like, you better feel that way.
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Right.
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Because if you even start to entertain the possibility that the, what does that make you? So there’s this very powerful social incentive for them to, like, dig their heels in and not admit that, like, oh, the United States of America, the greatest country in the history of the world with more freedom and prosperity and the cultivated the greatest economy and the greatest, you know, music and literature and just everything that is this superpower.
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Oh, we presided over the bankruptcy, destruction, and, like, the devolving into nothing more than a, like, military industrial complex, big bank, big pharmaceutical, most corrupt nation on Earth. And we didn’t cover that. We watched all of that happen, and not only did we not cover it, we demonized anybody who covered it.
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And we we were at every you know, like, that’s very difficult to ever confront, and it’s always just so much easier for human beings to just go, nope. The problem is misinformation
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Yeah.
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And Russia and racism.
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They were saying that the number one, thing for women was abortion. That was an that that was the the narrative that was being expressed over and over again. It was the number one issue for them. The number one concern.
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What was the only political winner they had?
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Did you shoot what Kurt Metzger tweeted? No.
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No, but I want to.
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Hold on. Give me a second. He’s the man. Kurt is the fucking best when things are flying and everything gets crazy. I’m a send this to you, Jamie. Oh, my God. He’s so funny.
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He is one of the funniest human beings on the planet. He’s a
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he’s a meh in the green room. It’s just ai Oh, I know. It’s just like he got me down rabbit hole after rabbit. You didn’t hear about this? And he’s like more conspiracies. I’m like, Kurt, I’m trying to, like, enjoy this experience of being at the comedy club and Donald Trump’s about the way.
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You’re hitting me with conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy. I’m like
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You got listen. You get caught on the side of the bar at Mitzi’s with Kurt Metzger. You might be in for a you might be in for a night.
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And he’s looming, and he’s big. He’s a big giant guy. Christina Applegate. Right? Why? Give me your reasons ai. My child is sobbing because her rights as a woman may be taken away. Why? And if you disagree, please unfollow me. Kurt says, good news. If she got all her COVID shots, she’s probably sterile now anyway. Also, what the fuck is a woman?
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Also, could you imagine a child imagine a child and your child is sobbing because their right to kill a baby inside of them might be taken away. I don’t believe that’s true.
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It’s very hard.
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I don’t believe that’s true unless you’ve distorted what we’re talking about to that child and said that someone’s gonna tell that child what they can and can’t do with their body, like, in in some sort of a weird dystopian way, like, what did you say to that kid? Do you explain what an abortion is? Do you explain how they came about?
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They were in your body and then they came out, now they’re a little tiny person that’s, like, super vulnerable, and you wanna protect their right to kill a little tiny person inside ai them. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to do it, and I’m I ram not I’m not a woman. I should not have the choice of what a woman can can’t do with her body.
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I would not want a man, if I was a woman, to tell me what the fuck I can do with my body. And I think if somehow and I think it’s all connected to religion. And if somehow or another someone decided and this would be a very minor comparison and not nearly as consequential. But if someone decided that men could no longer get hysterectomies or, excuse me, vasectomies. Mhmm.
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If men could no longer get vasectomies because of religious reasons, because of, some Sharia law or whatever the fuck it is, you you you cannot do that. Men would be outraged. If women were forcing it on men, we have low population, you cannot get vasectomies, vasectomies, ai, what we’d be, like, what the fuck is going on?
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And you’ve I wanna go to Oklahoma to get a vasectomy because it’s legal there, and then they they track you. Were you in Oklahoma to get a vasectomy? I’m, like, what? What the fuck? Men would be outraged. That’s ai with abortion.
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There’s talk of doing that with abortion, where in states where it’s illegal, women were are not gonna be allowed to travel in the United States of Meh, where you’re supposed to have freedom to go to a place where you’re gonna have a legal medical procedure. It’s legal in that place.
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Whether you agree with it or not, if you’re gonna believe in states’ rights and you don’t think that this is a giant prison where you have to show your ID when you go into Arizona, you should be able to drive around. Right? That’s the whole idea of one country. You can go to where the fuck you wanna go. It’s not your business. There’s other things to worry about.
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Worry about these fucking gangs that are taking over apartment buildings. Worry about the border. Worry about South Central Los Angeles. Worry about the South Side of Chicago and fucking gang violence that kills more people than half the wars we have going on right now. Worry about important shit.
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Don’t worry about what a a guy wants to do to get a vasectomy or
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what Yeah.
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Way worse a woman wants to do if she’s trying to get an abortion. It’s not your fucking business.
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I think that if the argument is that abortion is killing a baby, which, like, there is an argument to, then I can understand the argument being, hey. That shouldn’t be allowed. Now, obviously, I do think there are situations where it’s pretty indefensible to force a woman to carry a baby to term. Yes.
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You
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know, but There’s risk her life. There’s a lot of rape, incest.
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Also health, major health issues. Yes. I mean, there are these situations where you find out that there is some, you know, congenital disease where this this kid is not gonna make it to 3 years old. And I would never dream of, like, forcing, you know what I mean, that decision on parents rather than allowing them to make it.
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There is also a different the vast majority of abortions are not that. You know? And the vast majority of abortions are essentially people just don’t wanna have kids right now, and that’s a little bit that’s much tougher, to defend than those cases. But I will say that one of the things that always, like, I find striking to me is that because I’m, like, a radical libertarian.
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And it’s very interesting to me that, like, progressive Democrats vatsal of a sudden become radical libertarians, but only on one issue. And they make literally exact I’m I’m not even saying the libertarian position is to be pro choice. There’s libertarians who are pro life and libertarians who are pro choice.
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But the argument they make is a libertarian one. They’re like, listen. I own my body. It’s my body. It’s my choice.
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The government shouldn’t be involved in health care decisions. We believe in freedom. This is a basic fundamental right. It’s a very libertarian argument. Yes.
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And
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it’s just interesting that you only apply that to this one area.
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Mhmm.
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There’s not any other area where the the any progressive Democrat would ever go you know, if we’re talking about Obamacare, we’re talking about regulation, we’re talking about taxes, they would never go, hey. Listen. This is my money. This is my body. This is my choice. The government shouldn’t be involved in that. You know what I’m saying?
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And, like, there is something that’s very bizarre about that, where it’s kinda like maybe with immigration, they ai try to use that in an argument to, like, oh, you shouldn’t stop a person, freedom of movement type thing. They don’t really do that anymore because it’s been such a disaster. Right. But it’s just very strange to me that it’s, like, oh, what?
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You all become radical libertarians, ai, only when it comes to this thing, which is ai murdering a baby?
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But then there’s the other side that says we’re gonna leave it up to the states. Okay. Well, if you get rid of Roe v Wade and you leave it up to the states, if someone wants to go to another state where it is legal and you wanna stop them from doing that or prosecute them when they come back to your state That
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seems to be a problem.
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That’s a problem. Yeah. Because then it’s ai
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You can’t prosecute me for gambling in Vegas.
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01:43:40
Right. But you ai own that person’s body?
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What if
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that person ai to get an apartment in Oklahoma? Right. And now they kinda live there ai.
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What are you gonna do? It also it seems Is
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it where their driver’s license is?
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Like, what what what is that? It also just seems, I don’t even know what the the word it seems ai incoherent or unsustainable to say that if you’re not breaking a law in the area where you are, that you could then be held responsible for that when you come back to it. Because, again, like, it’s, you know, you go to a state where recreational marijuana is legal or where gambling’s legal or whatever.
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You know, the idea that it’s ai if if there’s, like, the speed limit was 80 miles per hour in the town over and then I come back and I get a speeding ticket for driving too fast over there Mhmm. Where you’re allowed to do that. So that seems unworkable.
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It’s a great that’s a great analogy. Yeah. That’s a great analogy. You it’s men too. It’s men controlling women’s bodies. That’s that’s the thing of it. That freaks people out, and it’s a step in the wrong direction. If you if you got rid of Roe v Wade, and that’s what you did, so now people have to go to a place where it’s legal.
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If you’re stuck in a state, you don’t have the resources, but you are pregnant and you wanna make a decision for your own body, that’s not up to men to decide. If you really believe in states ai and you really believe the United States is one cohesive community, you should be able to travel to do whatever the fuck you want.
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01:44:58
You wanna get your dick tattooed, you want whatever whatever you wanna get. You wanna get forehead implants so you look like a unicorn, whatever the fuck you wanna do. If you wanna travel to go do that, including if you wanna do something that’s legal, it’s a medical procedure that maybe I don’t look that I frown upon.
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But if they decided in that state that it’s legal, you should be able to do it there.
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Yeah. I mean, I I think that, the the reasonable compromise for right now is Roe v Wade was struck down. It’s a state’s rights issue. But, yes, I agree with you. The tracking of what you do in another state where it is legal in that state, that, first of all, just seems unworkable to me.
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I don’t see how that’s possibly gonna happen. And then I do feel like that’s gonna have to go back to the Supreme Court anyway because it’s such a precedent that you could be prosecuted for doing something that was legal in the area that you did it. It’s creepy. It’s creepy,
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and it’s an infringement on rights. I I don’t like it. Even if I don’t like the even if I, you know, I wasn’t a pro choice person, if I didn’t like the idea of abortion, I like less the idea of the government telling you what the fuck you can do and whether or not they can discover what you did in some other state.
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Like, shut up. Yeah. That’s it’s you can’t do that, and that’s what Ai think a lot of women are fearful of. And a lot of that, I don’t know if I don’t know how much of a push there is to make something like that happen. We tried to find that about Texas the other day. Well, there was one case, but we just kept talking. What was that one case, Jamie?
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There was something in Texas where someone maybe traveled to get an abortion, because in Texas, it’s 6 weeks, which is kind of crazy. Like, you don’t have any time. You you barely have enough time to realize you’re pregnant for a lot of women.
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You’re well, I mean, you’re probably not even gonna test positive on a, like, a home pregnancy test, I think, for, like, 28 days or something like that. So you got 2 weeks essentially. Yeah. After that.
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To find out, make a decision, do what you gotta do, and that you have to make sure you get in under the wire or you can get prosecuted. Like, 7 weeks you’re in jail Yeah. Which is kind of crazy.
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Yep. Look, it’s very I Ai don’t know. It’s it’s tough. When you’re drawing a line, it’s very tough it’s very tough to find a line other than conception that’s not arbitrary.
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01:47:08
Right. Bill Burr had the best bit. His bit about was fantastic.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I believe in
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one woman’s right to choose, but I think you’re killing a baby.
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Yeah.
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You know, it’s ai Jesus Christ. He’s dead on. Yeah. He’s dead on.
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Yeah. Louis CK had a great one too. I can’t remember. That was an old Louis bet. He had a great abortion meh too.
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It’s it’s a thing that I always say that if, men can get pregnant, abortion be an app on your phone. You’d be able to get a fucking abortion at the gas station. You’d be like, fill it up and take this out. Ai, that I’m not fuck that girl. I’m not carrying her baby.
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But she was I
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just think this is the case, and it’s a little confusing.
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01:47:42
Okay. A Texas woman who was jailed and charged with murder after self managing an abortion, what does that mean, can move forward with a lawsuit against the local sheriff and prosecutors over the case that drew national outrage before the charges were quickly dropped. A federal judge ruled on Wednesday.
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01:47:58
So US district judge Drew b Tipton denied a motion by prosecutors and the sheriff to dismiss the lawsuit during a hearing in the border city of McAllen. Lizelle Gonzalez, who spent 2 nights in jail on the murder charges of seeking $1,000,000 in damages in the lawsuit, did not attend the hearing.
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Texas Texas, one of the most one of the nation’s most restrictive abortion bans and outlaws the procedure with limited exceptions under Texas law. Women seeking an abortion are exempt from criminal charges, however. So why did they charge her? What did she do?
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What is self managing abortion?
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What does that mean? Oh, she took a drug. So, Gonzales was indicted in 2022 after she took the drug misoprostol while 19 weeks pregnant. She was treated at Texas Hospital where doctors later performed a cesarean section to deliver a stillborn child after they detected no fetal heartbeat. This is a little different.
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19 weeks is pretty late too.
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Yeah. This is different. The charges were dropped just days after the woman’s arrest. Okay. This is different. This is not someone going to another state. So I think that is probably, of JD Vance that he hadn’t heard of that before, and he certainly wouldn’t want to put those kind of restrictions on people ever.
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When you leave it leave it up to the states, if you’re stuck in one of those states, that’s where women get really freaked out that Roe v Wade was overturned.
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Yeah. Well, look, it’s not none of these things are perfect ai, and so even one of the things that’s interesting is, like, for so long, conservatives wanted to overturn Roe v Wade, and it always seemed like a pipe ram, like it was never gonna actually happen. But then when you do overturn Roe v Wade, you do realize that it’s like nobody’s really happy. You know what I mean?
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Like, it’s like, the the blue states are still gonna have, like, unrestrictive, you know, rules about it. So the meh the right wing people aren’t happy, and then the red states are gonna be more restrictive. So the left wingers aren’t happy about it. It is you know, it’s one of those issues that is enormously complex and it’s very difficult. You know, I’m not sure there is, like, a legal solution to it.
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I think it’s a much more of a cultural issue. It’s ai if you’re gonna if you were living in a society where, say, it was more similar to my grandfather’s society where it was very normal that you married your high school sweetheart, it was very normal that people waited till marriage to have sex, and it was very typical that you got married at 19 or 20.
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Well, Ai not saying they they did, but Ai just mean it was much more typical
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Yeah.
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To get married at 19 and be married for 60 years or whatever. It’s much easier to have rules about abortion in that ai.
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Yeah.
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You know, whereas, like, if you’re in, like, a hookup culture world where most people are not you know, people are getting married at, like, 35 if they get married at all, and they’re spending from, like, 17 to 35 being with many different partners.
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Using apps.
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Yeah. It’s it you’re just gonna come in and just write a law on top of that. It’s just a very it’s a very difficult situation. But, you know, to your initial point, it’s like the Dems were running on that because that was really the only political winner that they had. That was the only issue that people actually really cared about, and they were on the Democrat side about it. And that’s that’s why they had to run on that.
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That’s why Kamala Harris, which was one of the craziest things of this whole campaign, one of the most amazing things is that they actually tried to just run on nothing.
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One of my favorites was that Tim Walsh tried to claim that his wife got pregnant through in vitro fertilization, and she said that’s not true. So he lied about that.
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What a weird guy he was.
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His wife had to come out and say he was lying.
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Yeah. Well, so something okay.
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Ai guy lied about everything. He lied about being a a head coach. He was an assistant coach. Lied about his military rank. Mhmm. Lied about whether or not he served in a war. Lied about whether or not he was in Tiananmen Square. Yeah. Fucking lies about everything.
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Well, see, what happened is right? So Obama, who was obviously a very very smart guy and, you know, incredibly talented politician, at least in while he was running for president, he was. I think he’s lost a step. But, so Obama still was a bit of a narcissist, and he wanted to pick Joe Biden as his VP.
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He didn’t want someone who was gonna outshine him, and so he picked Joe Biden who you know, if you even before he went ai, was never particularly ai. So he picked Joe Biden as his his VP. And, then Joe Ai, well, he wanted some some, diversity points, and he also wanted someone to not outshine him because now he was becoming ai, and he was never that bright to begin with.
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So he picks Kamala Harris to be his VP. And then Kamala Harris needs to pick someone who won’t outshine her. You know what I mean? So it’s like the the idiocracy just, like, spun out of control real quick where all of a sudden you get to, like, the 3rd VP in a row and you’re like, yo.
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Really? This is
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who you picked? Like, he’s a knucklehead.
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You know what’s it’s crazy is that this was in in many ways, this sai, this presidential election was just so wild and so different from anything I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. You know, I’m 41, and this was different than any other presidential election of my lifetime for sure, and I think substantially before that.
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His lifetime.
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Yeah. I think I think before that too. But then there were these things that were also just, like, very conventional explanations for why you look at this Trump blowout. And it’s almost ai as you look back at it, it’s like, yeah. What you guys thought you could get away with?
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It’s just just very basic things that, like, Donald Trump picked a VP who, whether you like him or not, is a pretty impressive guy. Very impressive. Pretty impressive guy. There’s a guy who went to who was raised by a single parent who was a drug addict and ended up serving the country, going to an Ai League school, becoming a venture capitalist, becoming a a a sana.
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Oh, and and can sit and have a conversation with you for 3 hours and be very intelligent and expressive. Like
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And have fun. He has fun.
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However you feel about him, objectively Yeah. An impressive person.
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Yes.
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He picked a VP that could help him.
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Right.
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He could do things that Trump can’t do.
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Right. You
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know, like, he could go on on a a show Shannon. And and really make the case pretty well in a hostile environment. He’s got a very high verbal IQ clearly. You know, he’s a very intelligent guy. She picked a VP who can’t do anything to help her, who’s, like, the weirdest human being you’ve ever seen. Like like, what was the strategy here, guys?
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And they actually they really just banked on being not Ram. They they go you know, all of the things that she ran on 4 years ago, she walked away from every position and didn’t have an answer for any of them. Didn’t have an answer for what like, it’s totally fine to change your mind on something.
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And it’s totally have a reason. Yeah.
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I mean and it’s very easy. We’ve all changed our minds
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on a
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lot of things. And if you were like, hey, dude. You used to believe this, but you believe this. Now you’d be like, well, let me tell you something. Yeah. I read this guy, and he just made such a good argument about it. Yeah. And then he had all this data that I hadn’t really seen before. That’s fine.
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But she never had an answer for any of them. She went, my values haven’t changed. What? Well, okay. So the but, again, what’s the answer then?
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Like, you were ram Medicare for all, now you’re not. You were for Open Borders, now you’re not. You were for whatever, the a bunch of other stuff, trans surgeries for prisoners or whatever. Now you’re not. What hap she had no answer for that.
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She’s also the sitting VP, and they go, oh, sai. Are you running on the track record of the last 4 years? Like, no. No. No.
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I’m also not gonna run on that. What well, why not? Because I’m not Joe Biden. Ai, it’s like, what? What? That’s what you’re running on? That’s it?
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It’s just, like, it was so unbelievable.
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Sai many people were behind her, which is even wilder. It’s wild that so many people were, like, yeah, this is what we got. So let’s just fucking gaslight the shit out of half the country and run with it. And also Let’s see how far we can take. I ai piss. Let’s come let’s come back. We’ll talk about this. I’m ai Sai did the sauna earlier. Sorry.
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No. You did an hour? Yeah.
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He’s a old dude, man. He’s a old dude with bad posture. A different than old dudes with regular posture.
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01:56:05
That’s a very good point.
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Once they get to this
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Yeah. That’s it. Yeah.
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A lot. They can it fucking it’s hard to keep your head up.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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After a while, gravity just wins. Yeah. But Trump keeps on trucking. He’s the only guy that went 4 years in the White House and didn’t get older.
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Something. Really something really interesting
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about that. Sai. Pretty the same 4 years later where everybody else looks like they’ve been near a nuclear blast. You know what Ai radiation poisoning.
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Yeah. It’s a really, really good point. I’ve always thought there was something about, like because, you know, just from from doing stand up, you know, if you think about, like you if you really try to remember back to, like, your first, like, few months in stand up comedy, and you remember, like, how daunting getting up in front of people was.
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Oh, yeah.
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It’s like a thing.
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You
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know? And that’s that’s the first step to being a stand up comedian. Isn’t ai getting great material or even being it’s like, hey. Get comfortable with going up in front of a group of people and speaking into a microphone to them. Get comfortable with not getting a laugh when you wanted to get one. Get comfortable with that.
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And there is something where, ai, like, in in 2016, you know and people forget about this human element of it. Right? Like, Jeb Bush okay. He’s the son of a president. He’s the brother of a president, and he was the governor of Florida. It’s not like he was a, like, a a rookie.
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But when he’s on that debate stage, he is stepping onto the biggest stage of his life. He’s never been in front of a crowd like that before. Donald Trump, it’s Tuesday. Right. So this is what I do.
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Donald Trump’s, like, cracking his neck and going out there, like, oh, are all the spotlights and cameras on me? That’s about right. Okay. You know? Like, he’s just ai he’s and he was so comfortable. That was a huge factor in why he was able to just nuke everybody. Yeah.
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Because it’s like, yeah, this is what I do. I’m the center of attention. These guys have never been there before. Not bad.
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He was funny when he was just talking about the one liner that he cracked about Rosie O’Donnell. He goes, thank god I had that one because she was coming after me. She was coming after me. I I had that one. I got her with that one.
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Well, he he won her over.
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He did. Look at tyler. Speaking for ai. Apparently, she crushed it, and Yeah. She made fun of Mark Cuban.
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Yeah. Yeah. She did. She did. It was great. Yeah. I watched it. She’s got she’s Can ai watch it? I have a She is very sharp. Like, you can tell her it’s very impressive.
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01:58:16
She was the original Fox fembot. She was the original, like, super hot woman on Fox who was so so much smarter than you and you’re ai, whoo.
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01:58:23
Smarter ai ice queen. Oh, they’re all wearing something very inappropriate. Yeah.
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01:58:27
I said vagina curtains. I used to have a good about it, which is, like, not even a good curtain.
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That’s the
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kind of grandma has over here. She’s saying that flutters in the breeze. She goes ai, like, Jesus Christ. You’re inches away from vagina that’s covered by this the thinnest piece of cloth. It’s a wild way to dress.
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01:58:46
A weird culture over there
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at Fox.
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01:58:47
It’s amazing. Let’s hear it.
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Oh, 4 years ago, we had Mark Cuban on the program. You know? Yeah. May seem he was in the news this speak, and he started going on about how bad America’s race history was and how ashamed he was of Meh, and that’s why he was at all these protests. And he felt it was really important to stand up and speak out about human rights violations.
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And then it got awkward when I asked him about all the money he was taking from China. And then he dropped a bunch of f bombs and I thought I really enjoy this feeling of proving Mark Cuban wrong. And so here I am at a Trump rally, a strong intelligent woman to prove Mark Cuban wrong again.
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Damn.
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Yeah. That had a sting.
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Yeah. There was She’s she’s a beast.
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Yeah. That one that one had a sting.
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Yeah. It was very she’s it’s funny too because she’s not, like, been in politics, but that was very, like, politically savvy. That was, like, a really smart way to go at it.
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Well, she was very demonized as well. Remember when she went over to do that NBC show? That was crazy. Like, they took her from Fox. They gave her a shit ton of money, and then they just didn’t like her.
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Over the and it was over the lamest thing. I forget even the comments. Something about blackface Halloween costumes or something.
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Can you pretend to be a person that you admire that’s like if you wanna be Diana Ross? She’s like, I don’t think what’s wrong with that?
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Right.
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It’s not a bad question. There’s one thing if you are mocking African American people. If you have, like, fucking Al Jolson, blackface on. But if what if you wanna be mister t and you’re a 10 year old kid, if mister t’s his hero? Do you really think that kid’s racist? He puts a bunch of gold chains on and brown makeup on his face? Like, what are we calling blackface? Like, what what does that mean really?
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Blackface in terms of, like, Al Jolson tyler of yeah. Like, they literally used to use white guys pretending to be black guys in movies sai they didn’t have to have black stars.
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And they would be, like, overtly dumb and it was, like, insult it was very insulting. It was clearly, like, we think lesser of these peevals. But that’s not necessarily the case if you just have the color black. What if you want
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to shah it’s ai for Halloween. Yeah. It’s ai you can’t you can do everything but the skin color, which is just bizarre.
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Well, there’s that’s one of the other things that I I do think is is been very interesting over the last really over the last couple years, I guess, and it’s really on display with the Trump reelection thing is that the culture has moved.
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Did you ever see when I talked to Robert Downey Junior about tropic thunder?
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Yeah.
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I thought, do you think
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could you do it today? He was, oh, you could do it. Yeah. That
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was great. That sai such a great response.
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He’s This is great,
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man. Technically true. You could do it.
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I thought his conversation the avengers thing with Kama was goofy, but I love Robert Downey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was a real interesting one. I’d like to get him to eat meat. Every time I look at him, like, I’m very concerned.
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Oh, is he that’s right. He doesn’t eat. Yes.
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Yeah. California vegan. Well, I
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do think there’s some stuff that we look back at now at, like, 2017, 2018. The like, the wokeism of that era does seem to be, like, yeah, things aren’t quite as crazy as they were then, or at least this there was a little bit of, like, fatigue of it. You kinda can’t get away with it anymore.
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Isn’t that ai the pendulum, though? Doesn’t it, like, swing I guess. One way or the other way? And, ultimately, it moves into it it’s moving towards a better direction for ai, and it’s just a massive overcorrection. And then you have hustlers and grifters who get involved that then amplify the movement. Right?
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And those are, like, the Black Lives Matters girls who bought all the real estate.
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This is shit.
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There was also some accusation that they bought the house for substantially more than a person paid for just recently before that, and they they have a connection to that person. Ai just some it’s like other shenanigans
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Yeah. With the It’s the communists who are always, like, yeah, but I also wanna be a millionaire.
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It’s wonderful. It’s wonderful when the grift get exposes gets exposed.
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02:02:51
So I thought with in the the election this year, there were, like, kinda and and woke culture in general. Ai meh it broader than the election. But there were kinda, like, 3 major factors that I think were really interesting. One was that Ai think the anti, I think the the, like, for lack of better term, like, the kinda anti woke or non woke people kinda won out in the marketplace.
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There’s there’s examples of, like,
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with the Tom Brady roast.
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Well, I
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think you’re yes. Yes. I think you’re an example of that. The Tom Brady roast was an example of that. Shane Gillis’ career was an example of that. You know, Tim Dillon’s career is an example of that. It’s just vatsal certain point, it’s not even that Netflix changed their ai, and they’re willing to have these guys on because they had, like, some ideological transformation.
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It’s
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just ai, I don’t
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know, dude. They’re so they’re so big.
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They
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have so many fans. This is gonna get a ton of views on it There and and a mix of that and also ai for the first time, there was, like, a cost imposed with the Bud Light stuff and the Target stuff. There were these, like, kind of very effective boycotts where it’s like, oh, we’re you’re there’s gonna be a cost imposed on you if you do that.
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02:03:57
The second, factor with with the Trump stuff and why they weren’t able to get the shock troops out and when I say the shock troops, I just mean the left wing 20 year old useful idiots who will come out and protest. Yes. There’s a fascist movement here. Right? Yeah.
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02:04:12
So one of the things that happened, and this is part of why you know, this this is an a noncontroversial explanation for 2020 versus 2024 is that in the year 2020, Joe Biden’s central pitch to America was a return to normalcy. Yeah. And that was a very attractive pitch, I think, to a lot of people, especially if you can put yourself in November of 2020. Sure.
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You know, you’ve gone through the craziest year ever. And it’s there’s lockdowns. There’s riots. Ai the whole economy is a mess. Every ai freaking out. Still be Meh.
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All this stuff is just and and you’re constantly going ai, oh my god. Trump is is is crazy. And then the reaction to him is crazy. And then Joe Biden could just be like, listen. You know me. Yeah. I’ve been in the senate for 700 years. Yeah. Let’s go back to regular America.
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Turn the room.
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Yes. Exact and, by the way okay. I’m not campaigning. That’s true. I’m in I’m in my house the whole ai, but there’s a pandemic. That’s ai of the responsible thing to do. You know, Donald Trump’s doing a super spreader event right now. That was still the narrative at the time even though none of it was real.
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02:05:18
Did someone die from COVID that went to one of his events?
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Yeah. I think meh I I ai remember this.
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02:05:24
Was it Ben Carson?
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Ben Arya. He got COVID? Didn’t? I don’t remember.
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Who died from COVID that went to one of his earlier events?
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I don’t think
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I I don’t remember.
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I think somebody Sai think somebody might have I vaguely remember the story. Yeah.
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Ai who’s was a supporter of of Trump who wound up getting COVID and dying.
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Which, like, whatever. Who even knows whether he got it there ai whatever? Was.
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Well, he probably did. I think it was
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Maybe yeah. That’s ai sai bit.
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I think it was a tyler spreader event.
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But what yes. Well, it, you know, it might have been. I don’t know these outdoor events. I don’t know if they really were or not.
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02:06:01
They’re all in tight proximity to each other just like the flu. Herman Cain. Herman Cain.
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That’s what it was. That’s ai. That’s what it was. Okay. Yes. I do remember that.
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Yeah. Sai okay. Ben Carson’s still ai.
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Sorry, Meh. Ben, you’re doing great.
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02:06:14
Brilliant man too. Another guy was, like, very dismissed.
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Yes. Yes. Ai mean, he’s a bit of an odd duck, but he’s a genius for sure.
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02:06:20
You got the painting with Jesus behind him with his hands on his shoulders, like, hey, bro.
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02:06:24
Yes. There’s some weird stuff going on there. But he actually he is an interesting guy. Brilliant guy. Very, very brilliant. But so, anyway, this pitch of, like, the return to normalcy in 2020 is attractive. It’s attractive, and it also look. It fed into the the thesis essentially of the entire corporate media was, like, the problem is Trump. Right. The problem is Trump.
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Everything was Ai States of America, then this Trump guy came in and ruined everything. You know? Whereas the reality was always much deeper than that that, like, no. There were these huge problems, and that’s why a Trump like figure was so attractive to people. Yeah.
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02:06:59
But then what happened is Joe Biden came in, and nothing went back to normal. It got even crazier than it was under Donald Trump. So now people were looking back at the first three years of Donald Ram. Like, that seems pretty normal compared to what we’ve been going through in the Biden administration.
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02:07:13
So this sucked a lot of the energy out. And, also, you didn’t have the mystery of Trump. He’s gonna be Adolf Hitler in there. No. He’s not.
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02:07:20
He’s been in for 4 years. You know, in 2016, they were like, you can’t trust him with the nuclear codes. And there was a little bit of a plausible claim to that. Like, I don’t know. He would be the 1st president ever with no political or military experience, and he does seem like a little bit of a wild man, but you can’t really sell that anymore after he’s been president.
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02:07:37
So that kinda took away from the the energy. And another thing and I I don’t know. I have not I’m not saying I’m the only one making this point. I haven’t heard anyone else making this point, and I just I think this is a huge part of it. Okay?
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02:07:50
Like, a huge part of the reason why you didn’t see tens of thousands of young people out protesting Trump at Madison Square Garden, you only had, like, a 100 people there, is because those young left wingers who were reliable shock troops for the regime over the last decade, They’ve been protesting a genocide for the last
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year. Right.
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They’ve spent a full year protesting what they consider and at least the International Court of Justice plausibly considers a genocide. And it’s very hard to get someone who’s been protesting babies being slaughtered to turn around and pretend that something else is way more of an outrage and and especially to then go protest on behalf of the ones who are doing the genocide Right.
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That you’ve been protesting against for the last year. At least fund it. Yeah. Right. I meh, listen, man. Yes.
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02:08:41
It’s I mean, Israel forget, invading Lebanon or going to war with Iran. Israel can’t conduct the war in Gaza without the US. It’s our weapons. It’s our money. It’s our intelligence that they’re using to do this.
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02:08:55
It’s it’s, you know, America is if you view this as a genocide, which I don’t really use that word too often, but I do view it as, like, just horrific. And if you view it that way, there’s no way that the US isn’t implicated. This only happens because the US is funding and supporting this.
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02:09:12
And if you wanna get those activists to get outraged at something else other than that when that’s obviously the most pressing concern globally.
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It’s very tough. Yeah. They’ve spent a year doing that.
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Also And it really hurt her. These young kids, you think of the difference between 2016 and 2020 and then 2024, podcasts. Huge. Way different. They all listen to podcasts. Yep. Everybody gets clips. You hear opposing perspectives. You hear very intelligent people come on and make arguments that you’re not hearing on TV anymore and they get shared.
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Even if it’s just shared clips on TikTok and YouTube or YouTube Yeah. Shorts and Instagram reels, they’re getting shared left and right and you you can’t just keep a narrative going anymore. You can’t.
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Well, this was work. You know, like, even this came up a bunch in, when I was debating Chris Cuomo. But it’s, like, even just the way they, you know, the way they talk about you or, like, where it’s, like, oh, oh, these these bro culture guys or something like that. Like, Sai again, I’m sorry. Objectively objectively, this isn’t an opinion.
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What happens on this show is so much more intelligent and thoughtful and deep than anything that’s going on at CNN. You just can’t tyler. You can’t tell me that you sitting down with Elon Musk for 3 hours and then compare that to, like, Wolf Blitzer with all his graphics behind him, talking for 30 seconds before he goes to a pharmaceutical commercial, and then coming back and having the dumbest left winger yell at the dumbest right winger.
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Really? And you guys are gonna act like you’re the grown ups in the ram. Like, it it’s just it’s too ridiculous. And and that’s right. So the entire young generation has they’ve all turned that off. That nobody none of them are getting their news from from CNN anymore.
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And look, meh, that’s, I think, the most beautiful part of this election.
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Yeah, man. Media is dead. Yep.
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That’s right.
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Ram, son. And, certainly, not comparable anymore. And if you look at the numbers, like, what are the numbers that CNN has for a regular show compared to, like, the numbers of the Trump podcast?
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I don’t think they have a a show that regularly cracks a 1000000 views. The Instagram. Biggest one is still under a million.
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The Twitter, the x video that I posted when I posted Elon on the podcast, between me and him, it got 65,000,000 views in a day.
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It’s unbelievable.
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In a day. Yeah. And that’s not counting YouTube, which is, like, another I don’t know how many million he got on YouTube. That’s not counting
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Spotify. Yeah.
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We don’t even know those numbers yet because it was just 2 days ago. Right. 65 between his account and my account. 65,000,000 views.
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And, you know, there was,
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The x is the number one news source on Earth. Yeah. On Earth. It’s the most trusted because it’s the only one that’s not fucked with. Yep. So even if someone’s incorrect, the community notes will correct them. Yep. The the community notes are rock solid. It’s a great way to find out what’s real and what’s not real. And then you look in the meh, and you see people debating it.
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And it’s happening in real ai, and it’s happening whenever something breaks. And it’s it’s way better than what you’re gonna get on corporate controlled media. It’s way better.
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Elon Musk buying Twitter was at least as important as Trump winning.
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It’s
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election again. Maybe more. May the most important thing about Trump winning might be that he’s able to stop them from coming after Elon Musk.
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Well, that that’s a big factor, but I also think that Elon Musk buying Twitter, if if that doesn’t happen, I don’t think Trump wins the way he wins.
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Oh, 100%.
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I think it’s real tight. I think if if he does win, it’s barely. Okay. Let’s take podcasts out. He doesn’t win at all. You take him being on Theo Vaughn, him being on me, him being on all these different Nelk boys, all these different
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Andrew Schultz.
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Andrew Schultz. That was a big one. Yep. Schultz was flagrant was a big one because it got him to fuck around.
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Yep. You
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know, you see him laughing and joking around, and Shultz is joking with him. They’re having a good time. That humanized him more. Do you see that Shultz, they fucking pulled his special
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Yeah.
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From a theater 3 hours after the Trump thing got released?
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Yeah. And then he did it at a bigger theater.
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Of course.
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Which, by the way, that’s another thing that’s changed that’s really a fascinating thing to me. Right? Yeah. So I’ve Ai watched this happen, and I know you have too, where the the canceling stopped working. It was so effective.
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Yeah.
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And then all of a sudden, it just stopped working. A
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big part
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of that is Elon Musk for sure, but there’s other factors involved in it too. I mean but I remember, like, there were guys in 2016, 2017 who were very much, like, in the national conversation, and they got straight up removed from that. Milo. Milo Yiannopoulos, a great example. When he went on Bill Maher, he had, like, he killed it on Bill Maher. He killed it on your show.
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Bill Maher compared him to Christopher Hitchens.
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He went you’re, like, a gay Christopher Hitchens or something like that. Yeah. So he’s so now and then he made the other guys look like fools too. Like, he so then he’s then he gets taken down, and he went from being a guy who was, like, very much shaping the national conversation to being just removed from it.
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And there
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were other guys Meh. A bit of a drug problem.
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Yeah. I’m not even saying there weren’t other factors involved, but there were a bunch of people like that who got removed.
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Yeah.
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And I do think I think the tipping point was when they came for you and it failed, but it seems like around that time, it stopped work. Listen. I I heard of Andrew Tate for the first time ever when he got canceled from everything.
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Right.
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That was when I, like, found I I didn’t know who he was before vatsal. And then he was ai, oh, the guy who got canceled for everything, and now he’s bigger than he ever was. I know who he was. Most Googled man
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My ai.
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In kickboxing.
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Yeah. My kid asked me about him. Because my kids were getting in little videos off of TikTok just before he got in, like, real trouble when he was just starting to, like, run Manosphere and a bunch of young guys are resonating with it. She goes, what do you think about him? And I said, he’s a legit kickboxer. Like, I used to watch him kickbox.
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He was, ai, you know, in that organization, whatever organization, he was a champion. He’s legit. He can fight, man.
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Oh, yeah. I didn’t think that he ai in fighting. He can really fight.
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When he became, like, this, Manosphere influencer, I was, like, okay. That kinda tracks, kinda makes sense.
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Right. Right. Well, I just the thing that I found so interesting was just and and it happened with him. Great example is Tucker Carlson, Candace Candace Owens.
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Oh, yeah.
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And then even the thing we were just saying about, our boy Schultz, it’s ai these cancellation attempts, all of a bryden, they went ram, like, oh meh god. This could ruin you. So, like, it’s making you stronger. Did you
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seem to tell anyone on stage last night?
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No. Bro. At the mothership? Bro.
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It’s like Richard Pryor showed up.
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Do you
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have video of the
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opening? Oh, yeah.
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It’s bananas. They go nuts. Yeah. They go nuts when Tony’s there.
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This is the new dynamic now. Yeah. It’s ai the tool that they used to use to control the narrative is now losing them more and more of the narrative.
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Not only that. Tony now has 35 minutes on the whole thing.
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Really? Yeah. That’s great.
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Minutes on Puerto Rico with this whole thing. People at the
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Oh, is he do is he going up tonight? Oh, yeah. He’ll probably up tonight. I wanna go watch that. I’d love to go watch that. I love that’s the best thing in comedy, by the way. The best thing in comedy is, like, when there’s, like, a huge thing and someone’s got there’s just something about, like, when they got new fresh stuff on the thing that just happened is just the best part of stand up.
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Oh, it’s my like, my n word compilation joke.
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Dude, I remember, what literally one of my like, if I had to put a flag down on, like, 5 of my favorite moments since I’ve been in comedy, that, that show that we did at, what’s it called, the Vulcan? Yeah. It was before the mothership was opened, but it was the day after it came out. And it was amazing.
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There was something surreal about it watching you go on stage in the moment where you’re, like, in the crosshairs of the biggest cancellation attempt and then having you just do the bid on it is so goddamn good. I mean, you did you put it out on your, your last speak. But watching it the next day after it had just happened ai, like, there’s just an energy about that that you’re just, like, oh, shit, dude.
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Ai, this and it was just amazing. It’s sana amazing show. It’s so cool watching it.
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To take something and turn it into a positive. Yeah. Like, take this moment and create a bit out of it.
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Oh, dude. I,
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my
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ai favorite, show of
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the
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year, was Ai just literally I happen to be doing a weekend at the mothership when Trump got, got shot. I mean, I was leaving my hotel to walk over to the mothership, and then just all of a sudden, my phone started blowing up, like, text, text, text, text, text, all this. And I was like, what the fuck happened here? And then I ai the video. It was like, oh, shit.
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And then that shah, whatever the earl the early show on that day, man, for any if people were there, it was just the most fun it’s the most fun part of stand up where you’re almost just like ai go, like, well, forget what I thought we were gonna be talking about today because now we’re going in a whole new direction.
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What am I gonna go up there and not talk about this for a half hour? Right. How is that possible? How is that possible? Especially for meh.
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Yeah.
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Like, you know, it’s like, well, I’ve gotta go do this. And it’s just something beautiful. That’s the best part of stand up comedy, man.
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It’s a great part. And if you’re there live, it’s so fun. It’s so fun when you know someone is talking about something that just happened. It’s so fun.
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And I’ve gotten, I’ve gotten, like, messages and tweets and stuff like that, like, from people who arya at that show. I’ll still get, like, you know, like, someone will, like, come up and just be like, dude, I was
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at that show. That time,
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I’m like, ai. That was a good one, man. It’s a crazy That was a good one.
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You don’t get a whole lot of moments like that where the president almost gets fucking iced. And then all the nutty people trying to say he staged his assassination attempt so that he could regain the White House. That is a propaganda. Those are the nuttiest of left wing people. You think flat earthers are nuts? Yeah.
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You think a 78 year old guy is gonna allow some dude with iron sights to shoot and nick his ear from a 140 yards away? Well,
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also, another guy did get killed
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Yeah.
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There. It seems pretty young. Person got shot? Yeah. I really wonder if Trump’s gonna try to get to the bottom of that stuff ai if maybe he just doesn’t want to even push it.
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It’s hard to know what happened there, but he seems like a Lee Harvey Oswald type dude. He seems like a a guy that they’d set up. Well There’s a lot to that story.
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There’s, both stories, with both of the assassination attempts,
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are very fishy. Yeah.
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There there’s just something that just doesn’t add up.
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The one with Crooks is the most fishy. It’s the did you see the video of his dad? His dad leaving Costco? So he’s got Costco with a a whole full cart of stuff and there’s a dude who’s with him, was wearing gloves and a mask and sunglasses and a hoodie. And this guy’s helping him. He’s wearing gloves.
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Yeah.
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So he’s not leaving any fingerprints anywhere. It’s the weirdest look. This guy’s and this is, like, recent. Right? So this is in the heart of COVID where
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someone I don’t know Sai don’t know when it was. Meh.
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Ai this. It was really recent.
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Yeah. I think
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so. The assassination attempt was only a few months ago. Yeah. So you have Crook’s dad and his dad is pushing the shopping cart and you got this dude who’s with him, who’s ai in full disguise with gloves. It’s very weird.
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The well, look. I meh, so you have there’s the first one where you have the this guy is able and you could see this is all on videotape. This guy is walking around scoping out that roof. Look at this.
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Oh, he
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He’s wearing gloves. I think he’s just wearing he’s got his hoodie covering his hands a little
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bit. Ai there. Are they not gloves?
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Ai don’t think so.
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Ai do I
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think he wants to wear gloves?
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He is covering everything else up, though.
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You sure he’s not wearing gloves? Okay. He’s got his hoodie so he’s
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Ai see I see why you thought that, though. It’s a weird it’s a weird look for sure.
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Well, he’s he’s covering his fucking hands.
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Yeah. He is covering his hands. Okay.
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So this is not gloves. That’s right. So he’s got a full mask on. He’s got sunglasses on and a hoodie, and it’s nighttime. And this guy is okay. So no no gloves. But it’s just bizarre. Very bizarre. Obviously, the guy doesn’t want people to know who he is because he’s with the Yeah.
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The father of the guy who tried to kill the fucking president.
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Well, the the fact that somebody could be able to to get up on that roof with a rifle a 130 yards away from the president and then all the excuses that they made made absolutely no sense. It was sense it was too sloped of a roof
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in all this.
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Didn’t wanna step down.
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Yeah. This is very yeah. All very strange. And then the second one, you’ve got a guy who has a felony conviction for possession of weapons of mass destruction where he barricaded himself, while police were pursuing him with, like, explosives or something. I mean, he’s a it’s Oh,
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he did?
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Yeah. There’s a it’s the charge was weapons of mass destruction. I remember that because, like, I was like, I didn’t even realize that was a charge. I thought that was just something Bush lied about. But, evidently, there’s a real, criminal So he
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had bombs? Like, suicide? Yeah.
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I I
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you know, I don’t know exactly what they were, but I know that was the charge, and it was a felony. And then this mother fucker is recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort and is going back and forth to an active war zone ai to recruit Afghan fighters to fight in the war on the Ukrainian side.
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And then he comes back and tries to assassinate Donald Ram. And then the entire national conversation is, like, is the rhetoric about Donald Trump too far? And you’re ai, listen, man. I’m not saying it’s not plausible that if you call the guy Hitler every day, maybe some, you know, deranged young person will be like, I’m gonna take out Hitler.
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But when this guy is going and recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort, this doesn’t sound to me like someone radicalized by Joy Reid.
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You know
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what I mean? This sounds like something a little deeper is going on. And then there is apps meh like with Jeffrey Epstein. Right? There is no desire amongst the supposed journalist class to even look into it.
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And then his son gets hit with child porn charges. Yeah. So, like, if his son knew anything about what was going on, no one’s gonna listen to him now. The fucking ai jerking off to kids fucking.
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It’s just it look. At the very least, it’s very bizarre. And when you have a ai, you know, like, I’m not saying I’ve got, like, a case I could present in front of a jury and get a conviction. But when you’ve got a guy who has been targeted by the regime unlike any other political figure in American history, well, let’s say since Kennedy.
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But more so because he just survived an assassination. Yeah. Kennedy got shot. But the attacks on him, the lawfare attacks are unprecedented. The the weaponizing of the legal system in front of everybody’s eyes, like trying to find a crime.
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Yeah. No. That’s right. And sai, all of that and then you see these multiple attempts happen. It you’d be crazy to not at least want to have, like, some real investigation into this, some some interest in looking at this and all that.
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Press conference. Yeah. How about one press conference about crooks? How about tell me what you know? Did you get a toxicology examination or just burn the body?
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Yeah. And he can’t meh in his we can’t get into his phone. He had no social media footprint. Come on, dude.
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His apartment was professionally scrubbed. Yeah. Didn’t even have silver in his house.
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Yeah. So it’s all just very strange. Ai I wonder now that Trump’s back in, does he does he look into that? And I’m not even saying you know, like, I just really, I just want Trump to end the war. Listen. If Donald Ram, if he secures the border and ends the if he ends the war in Ukraine, secures the bryden, and,
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Ramps up oil production
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and stuff like that. Does something to help the economy, put him on Mount Rushmore. Like, that’s that’s enough, man. Like, I don’t you know what I mean? Like, that’s that’s enough for it. But I I am curious. Like, I wonder where he is.
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I always wanted to be on Mount Rushmore. I believe I deserve it.
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And I’ll I’ll say we kick one of them off. We’re not we’re not making more room. Face. You ai, we could take a vote.
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Can’t you imagine
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I’ll tell you.
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You imagine the fucking sock hats screaming in the street if they change Mount Rushmore?
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Yeah. TJ stays, but I’m thinking Lincoln’s gotta go.
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No. Oh, Lincoln’s a man. Lincoln was a wrestler.
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Keep him. Yeah. Alright.
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Fine. Giant freak of a meh. Probably gay.
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He was a giant freak of a man and definitely, I think, spent a lot of time in cabins of other dudes.
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I think everybody’s gay back then. That’s what I ai.
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It’s possible. I think there was
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a lot of gayness back then and, you know, I I base this on, ancient cultures ai Afghanistan, all the gay shit they do.
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Well, you also gotta think, like, if you’re in a world without, like, plumbing and and toothbrushes and razors, Fucking a man or fucking a woman, not that much different. Not a whole lot different at that point, dude.
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Especially if you’re in a trench.
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Yeah. It sai, at that point, you’re basically, like, you’re just you’re just you’re you’re having sex with an animal is what you’re doing.
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But so many warriors in the past were gay. Like, samurais did a lot of gay stuff. Yeah. Arya did a lot of gay stuff. A lot of gay stuff.
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Well, it’s one of the things that I think we’ve kind of found out, with the the the trans stuff, over the last few years is that it’s ai, there there are cultural norms that you can set up where people will do a lot of stuff that you might consider to be very, like, bizarre. Arya it’s very easy when you don’t have those cultural parameters to be, like, no one would do that just because you made it, like, acceptable.
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Prison.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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We’re so gross. If you leave us alone with no one but us, we just fuck each other. Yeah. That’s how gross we are.
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And it’s also kind and and it’s like a punch line in a weird way. Like, it’s just nothing like
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It’s also the one kind of rape you can hope someone gets. Yeah.
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You know, that was actually I hope
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he gets raped in prison.
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02:26:57
Kurt Kurt Metzger, made this point. I remember it was ai during, like, the Me Too movement. Oh, I know what it was. It was when do you ever see the Law and Order episode where they did, like, the Me Too comic? No. It’s the most ridiculous thing ever, dude. It was just in the you know, Law and Order, they just gotta bang out a half hour show, like, every other day or whatever.
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Don’t know.
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Yeah. So it’s sai so the it was the the height of, like, cancel culture, Me Too, and all this stuff. And so the theme I’m not exaggerating this. Okay? The theme is there’s a a a shot comic, and he’s he’s making all these rape jokes. And, now, of course, they do it in a way, like, as if this would work at a comedy club. Like, you’re just like, hey, you.
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I hope you get raped. And the crowd’s ai, yeah. Yeah. Sai they’re at a comedy club. I believe it was filmed at the Comic Strip Live.
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02:27:41
I think it was there. I’m not sure. But it was at a comedy club. It’s in this so some some girls get up and they walk out because they’re very uncomfortable with, like, oh my god. These rape jokes are not funny, blah blah.
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02:27:51
Then the girl leaves, gets raped. Turns out it was the rape comic who rapes arya, and that’s the it’s the most ridiculous, like, goddamn story ever. But this was an episode of Law and Order. And then Kurt just started he made the point that he goes, you know on this shah, it’s just a regular thing that they threaten men with rape?
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Like, every single time they’re in they’re, like, interrogating someone, they go, guys like you don’t do very well in prison. You know what I mean? And it’s always just, like, the threat of, like, we will put you in a rape torture dungeon if you don’t do x, y, and z, and I thought it was, like, a really brilliant point that that’s just totally acceptable.
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It totally
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sucks. A man with you would guys like you don’t do very well in prison is a common, like, saying and we all know what that means. They’re saying you will be anally raped against your will, But whatever, you’re a dude, so who cares?
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My friend was telling me about, the American Taliban guy.
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Mhmm.
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You know, that guy that went over to, to join the Taliban. Mhmm. He said they raped that guy like a 1000 times. He said, like, that guy was a prisoner over there for, like, 4 years and they just raped him continuously. And he said when he was working overseas, when he was deployed, he said you would see guys raping guys all the time. Yeah.
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There was this one very slow guy that worked in the kitchen. These guys were lined up to rape the guy.
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Jesus.
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There was one guy who had a colostomy bag and the guy kept getting sick. He had to get meh. He’s ai, he’d get infected. He would go they found out they were fucking the hole where the bag goes into his side. Guys were fucking the hole where his colostomy bag gets inserted.
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That’s not cool.
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Yeah. But when you have a culture that says, like, men, can’t have sex with women except to procreate, and the women have to be dressed up in a certain way,
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and it’s
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not you leave them alone with themselves. It’s very Freudian, man.
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And it’s old. You repress. Old culture.
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Well, this is the this is the Freudian observation, which is a very brilliant one, however people feel about Freud. It’s ai you repress, you know, certain desires and they reemerge in much darker ways. Yeah. You know, there’s just ai you have to have a release valve. Yeah. Otherwise, it’s like human beings go into very, very dark very dark places.
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Well, it’s just people don’t react well to other people telling them what to do. And when I was in high school, the thing was Catholic school girls were always freaks.
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Right.
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Like, Catholic school girls were wild because they didn’t get to be around any boys ever. They were just at school with girls. They’re all dressed in skirts, and they’re all told that they’re all those desires that they have, their body’s going through puberty, and they’re just horny all the time that they’re bad.
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Yeah. And then they can’t wait to get along with a girl.
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And as again, the same thing, like, you repress it in one area. It’s just that reemerges in a much uglier way than if you had just
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been yeah. Exactly. Best example of it emerging in the creepier way. And you know why they did that with Catholic priests?
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Why?
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Because the priests were, like, rock stars. They were fucking everybody. Sai they said, you can’t have sex anymore. You can’t get married.
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But imagine saying to, like, a grown man that you can’t ever have sex or jerk off. That’s the expectation. The expectation is that you’re supposed to never come.
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And they would give you medication so that you couldn’t get hard. They’d give you saltpeter.
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Yeah. You’re gonna draw you’re you’re gonna if that’s the job to sign up to, you’re gonna draw in some weird people who wanna sign up to that job.
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Twisted. You know? What what was that what’s that stuff called? Is it called saltpeters? Is that what they give them to make sure that they stayed impotent? Kills their sexual ai?
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Oh, I don’t know. I don’t probably heard of this.
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Fucking poison. I mean, what is what’s doing with that? Probably. Yeah. What’s doing that? What what’s killing your it’s killing your testosterone, killing your sex hormones? What else is it doing? How depressed are you? Yeah.
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That can’t be good.
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How many
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of them are alcohol? Do you ever go
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to a a Catholic church and you see the guy speaking the the the the whatever meh is, bishop, whatever the fuck he is, big stupid blown up nose because it’s just ai he’s got gin blossoms all over his face. He gets hammered every day. He lives in hell.
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Yeah.
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He lives in hell. He’s probably a closeted gay guy that took this fucking job 45 years ago, and now he’s ai, this is my life. Now, I’m 60. Here I am. Like, what am I doing with myself?
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Yeah. Ai I’ve I’ve I’ve talked It’s
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all Peter stuff, Jamie. Did you find it? Was what what is saltpeter used for and is it true it reduces certain carnal urges? The second part of the question is easy to answer. Saltpeter, the term refers to either potassium or sodium ai, has no effect on carnal urges. The story that this chemical was put into soldiers’ food to decrease their sex drive is a total myth. But what about for priests? That’s what I had heard.
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So is it one of those things they thought thought did that? Symptoms can range from double vision and difficulty in swallowing to paralysis and death. The spores of this organism lurk in many foods under the right conditions, lack of oxygen, low acidity, becomes active and liberate their toxin.
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Sausages are the classic example of ai of food that can be affected, And the word botulism, in fact, derives from the Latin botulist, meaning sausage. What so this this botulist scroll back up again. I feel like I picked this up at a weird place. Serious expos of saltpeter, one of the most deadly substances known to mankind is produced by clostridium botulinum bacteria, 7000000 ai more toxic than cobra venom.
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Botulin poisons its victims by blocking the actions of neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Symptoms can range okay. So this is the symptoms from botulism. Is saltpeter come from botulism? So one of the okay. One of the serious aspect aspects of his one of the most deadly substances known to mankind is this botulism bacteria. Okay.
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Botulism could be prevented by the appropriate use of sodium ai, discovery that actually became about in an accidental fashion. Salting of meat is an ancient method of preservation based on the ability of sodium chloride to kill bacteria ai drawing out much of their water content.
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About 500 years ago, some clever cook noted that the effectiveness of salt in preserving meat depends upon its source. Furthermore, salt that worked particularly well improved the meat’s flavor and color. Okay. The secret turned out to be an impurity, potassium ai, more familiar known as saltpeter. Okay.
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So this is how they came up with it to combat botulism. Okay. Now what about how how does saltpeter work? What what’s the point of it? Why would people take it? I don’t understand. What’s it say?
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You wanted to add about priests. Correct? Was the original thing?
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Yes. Okay. Because this is what we had always heard when we were kids, that they would give priests saltpeter to suppress their carnal urges. So here it’s, saltpeter known for used meh purposes in the past, including as a curing agent, key compound of gun powder.
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Meh, this this stuff does everything.
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Yeah. But what about sexual urges? They debunked the myth about Saltpeter lowering libido or sex drive. It’s false. It’s a myth that’s been going around for years. The myth started when what does it say? Let’s see where the meh started, Mike.
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Why don’t we go with QRL? Let’s try Military Times.
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Okay. But if you see that where it says there, top answer.
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I know those are all QRL things. Those are just those are mess message boards, essentially.
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Right. But I would just like to see what that person on the message board says. I think it’s kinda interesting. The meh started with the military. You see this article from Snopes. Popular myth promoted by youngsters in boarding schools. Interesting. Summer camps as well as men in the military and prison.
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Some boys or men use this as an excuse for sexual performance problems. Doctors and pharmacists have debunked the myth about saltpeter. Lowering the libido prostate or sex drive is false. Even if some ignorant random, prison did this to a group of inmates, they’ve proven it would not have the negative effects people keep saying it does.
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But that doesn’t prove that they didn’t do it. Right. They’re just saying it wouldn’t work.
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It doesn’t work. So maybe they, like, tried to use it against maybe it was ai a theoretical thing that they thought was gonna you know, like, wasn’t that ai Spanish Ai? Do you remember Spanish Fly?
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Yeah. Yeah. That’s the one Cosby, read out about. Right?
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Yes. That’s that’s that’s the
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creepiest tape ever. The creepiest.
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He had a bit about it.
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Oh. And then he did an episode Yeah. About it. They did an episode with his, like, barbecue sauce or something like that.
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A special barbecue sauce to get everybody horny.
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What a weird how did by the way, no one I guess, in the eighties, people had a lot of blinders on. But he was just ai he was like, hey, I got an idea for the episode, like, maybe it’s like, you know, we’re we’re doing, you know, the Huxtable family and I just make my barbecue sauce and all the chicks wanna fuck.
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You’re like, wait, what?
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Ai.
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Why would you do that on the show?
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Family ai?
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I thought we were gonna do, like, Theo gets in a fight, and then we have to talk to him about, like, keeping his grades up. The importance of homework. Yeah. Right? Like, it was it was just so out of the ordinary for what that show was. And ai, like, no. I really listen.
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I’m the shah, and it really means a lot to me that we do this episode.
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Ai, strange. So I think Spanish fly was another myth that people thought was real. And I remember hearing about it when I was a kid that you could give a girl a thing, this whatever the Spanish fly was. To find the what’s the origin of Spanish Spanish fly?
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I I stumbled across something crazy about this, saltpeter stuff. Yeah? I’m trying to read it. I was trying to read through as fast sai I could give you a quick answer. There is a job, and it says in, like, Bryden. I had to transfer this, saltpeter welder profession whose task consists of collecting urine soaked earth in order to make more saltpeter because they used it in ammunition.
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So they had these barns where Piaikas it says here pissing men. I was trying to get it
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here. Wow. And that’s how they make gunpowder?
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Yeah. You’d piss on the ground into the soil, and then they’d get enough of that stuff together ai. And then Wow. You could make some gunpowder out.
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How much how much do you hate?
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But how much experimentation did it take to figure out that, like, no. Listen, dude. Hey, listen. If I piss on the ground, I could make gunpowder. You’d be like, how’d you figure that out? You’re like, listen, dude. It’s a long story. Alright? I was doing a lot of stuff this weekend.
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What year was this? 18/30? The 1600. 1600, they fix this figured
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this out?
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Yeah. Oh ai god. That is wild.
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Yeah. They Hold on.
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Stop. Go scroll back up a little bit. What does it say here? All peasants, the priests made sure that no one was forgotten, were forced to deliver their imposed quota of saltpeter soil saloni with ash, wood, and coal to the nearest simmering plant. The obligation was replaced in 16/34 by a saltpeter tax. The saltpeter Jews, that’s always the Jews, now instead came to collect the soil themselves from under the farmers’ barns.
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The saltpeter tax was replaced in 1801 by an obligation for each mantle to annually supply 1 half what does that say? L I pound of saltpeter to the state? What does that mean?
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Yeah. This sai transferred or the What
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is l I pound? Swedish. Oh, okay. 18/30, the saltpeter tax ceased entirely. The farmers were required to have wooden floors in the barns in order for this saltpeter formation to take place. They were required to have wooden. This is crazy. The peasants complained about these impositions and about the visits of the Suds. The simmering lasted annually from May 1st to September 29th.
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The simmering consisted continued for 6 to 7 days or until an egg could float on the surface. At this time, lime and ash were added, which caused, which caused the included common salt to crystallize and be could thus be removed. The whole thing was then allowed to cool down to about 25 degrees when the saltpeter began to crystallize. The raw saltpeter was then transported to the gunpowder mills.
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The boilers had the to have the right few to take fuel for the cooking.
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Is this similar does that mean that they made, like, a a little pond of pee urine?
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And then
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they poured chemicals on it.
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It sounds like it’s spreading a little pond. I don’t
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know what
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it would be. It says it’s simmering. But Well,
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they must have had a vat of it. They must have had, like, a big cauldron of piss. That’s the piss dirt that they cooked until you can float an egg on the surface.
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Oh, dude.
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What? Bro, how did someone figure out your point? How?
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We’re sai lucky we live now. Oh, my god. I don’t wanna live in the time where I got pissed on the dirt to make gunpowder.
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People are gonna be saying that about the in the future about this time.
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God, that’s true.
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We didn’t live in a time where they were fucking the whole country was at war with the stupidest shit and controlled by this media that was completely controlled by corporations and everybody was being gaslit and people willingly gaslit themselves.
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I’ve always I’ve always felt the one, you know, if you could try to guess, like like, just say if we survive and things improve morally, like, what we would look back on and be like, holy shit. They and the the 2 to me were always, was always war and, prison. And especially, like, non violent, you know, like, prisoners, like but even violent prisoners, you’d almost think, like, well, they didn’t figure anything else out.
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Right.
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Like, they didn’t figure anything else out other than but the idea of, like, putting non violent, like, victimless criminals in a fucking cage
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Right.
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Like, human beings, you just throw them in a it’s slavery, dude. Ai, that’s
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what just that, but you profit off of it? Yeah. So you have private prisons that are actually a corporation that lobby to make sure that certain laws stay on the books so that you could keep your bryden stocked with live people that are essentially batteries that generate money for you.
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And and just the fact that that’s still going on while we have all of these technological advancements and, you know, like, if you go, you you know, you go down to, like, Sana Jude’s or something like that, and they’re like, dude, they have all of this technology because all of these brilliant people are here to save babies’ lives. You know what I mean? Like, that’s going on. Yeah. And then also there’s war still.
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Yeah.
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Like, we haven’t figured out a different way. Like, everybody doesn’t just agree. Like, listen. Obviously, to just go on mass slaughter campaigns and have nothing but destruction is in nobody’s interest, so here’s how we’re gonna solve Right. These conflicts. Like, it’s just it does seem that, like, if if human beings ai for another 100 years and and we, you know, are at a higher moral level, we would look back at that the way we look back at, you know, witch hunts or or, like, slavery or something like that.
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It’d be like, that’s insane. That people were so evil, you know, that they would like, they could do such evil stuff.
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And then we could do such evil stuff in the age of information.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, very hard. And maybe maybe we are, like, moving in that direction where, you know, it does seem for sure, I think that the fact that the the war in Gaza has had more, images come out of it than any other conflict. Yes. That’s a huge part of the reason why there’s so much protests against it.
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Technology that’s everywhere. Everyone has a cell phone.
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Very hard. Very hard. I think me and you might have talked about that last time I was on. Right? But it’s ai even the war in Iraq, which is not ancient history, you know, it was it was still going on. I mean, secondly, we still got troops there now. But, like, the video footage that would come out would be ai you know, it almost looked like a firework, like, kind of exploding, which is that’s easy to see and root for.
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You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Good ai kicking ass. But when you’re seeing a baby being pulled out of rubble who is just suffocated to death, oh, that’s tough, dude.
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On fire. They were hit by missiles.
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That’s really, really tough, dude. It’s really tough to find a way. Yep. There’s still people out there who will find a way to try to justify it, but it’s tough. It’s it’s much tougher.
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Well, that’s sort of the divide today. The divide today is objective reality versus what have you been saying. There’s objective reality versus you have a narrative. The narrative is Israel has to defeat Hamas. Hamas is using human shoulders human shields, rather. That’s the narrative.
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The objective reality is blown apart children
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Yeah.
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And not just one. Ai, tens of thousands of innocent people dead.
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Ai was just, I was just watching this, this interview. I’m blanking on the doctor’s name, but it was Dave DeCamp, was interviewing him, who’s, by the way, phenomenal. One of the best reporters in the in the country. DeCamp, Dave, d e c a m p. Dave is his Twitter handle. He’s phenomenal.
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I’ll follow
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him right now.
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How about
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that? He’s great, dude. He’s great. He’s one of, he’s he’s over at, antiwar.com. He’s what, like, Scott Horton’s guy. By the way, my guy Scott Horton just, I just gave you and Jamie a copy of the book. Unprovoked is, is gonna be out, I think, in the next week or so. I’m sorry. Provoked. Ai didn’t mean to say unprovoked.
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It’s provokedbook.com, the best book written on the, the history of the Ukraine, Russia conflict and how America just blew it at every single opportunity. Anyway, so he so Dave DeCamp was interviewing this guy, who’s a doctor. He’s an American who went over to Gaza. He was a doctor, and he had been there was a big piece in the New York Times written about this where he said that every day that he was there, every single day, they’d see they’d treat toddlers with bullets to the head, that they were just constantly seeing this.
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And then he says that he also talked to a whole bunch of other because so his working theory on this was but when he first started seeing this so he’s in this one area in Sana, and he was embedded there for a few months working at a hospital, and he figured there was, like, some lone sadistic sniper out there.
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You know what I mean? Like, these things happen in war. Then he started talking to doctors from all other points of Gaza who were there at all different times who all said the same thing, that they’re getting toddlers with bullet and then when The New York Times published this, they, a bunch of people who are defending Israel started being like, this isn’t true, blah shah blah blah, the Israeli utmost moral fighting force in the world.
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So he published the x rays. He’s, like, okay. You know, I’m a doctor. I have the x rays right here. They published them. It’s just 100% is happening.
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Like, it’s just
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So what is happening?
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I mean, Israel’s been on a mass slaughter campaign of a captive people for over a year now. You know? And they’re shooting babies. Evidently, I mean, there’s there’s a doctor who’s he’s an American. He’s claiming it happened, and he has X rays. So, yeah, it seems like that’s what’s going on there.
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And, I mean, look. I it’s it’s obviously just so horrific, man. The whole thing is sai it’s it’s really amazing to me the way to watch the way people will rationalize and justify what Israel’s doing. It takes so much mental gymnastics, and it’s always gotta, like, rely on you know, it just it lets you know. It’s ai, oh, so I get it.
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You see, it’s like, oh, how human beings through all of human history have had slavery and and genocides and ethnic cleansing campaigns. And at every step, there’s someone there who’s willing to justify it and explain why we have to do this because this is the only way. And, really, we’re acting in defense. That’s what they all claim. It’s what the Nazis claim. It’s what they all claim. They’re really acting in defense.
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Jesus Christ. But, again, we’re gonna look back on this ai. The way people look back on concentration camps, the way people look back on the Mongol campaign, the way people look back on the inquisition, we’re gonna go how? How did they do this?
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How how were you allowed to just, like and it’s it’s amazing the way people can compartmentalize it too. You know what I mean? Like, it could just be like, hey. You there’s somebody who could be a totally loving dad and a good husband and all like that, but then can go to war and commit, like, unspeakable horrors on other people.
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Yeah.
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It’s just ai they put that over here, you know. It’s very hard to to think about that or understand it,
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but Unless you talk to someone who’s done it and they Yeah. It’s this is one of the most important things, the messages that I wanna get to Trump. And one of the things that, I’m excited that Bobby Kennedy is interested in this as well is psychedelic therapy for veterans. I think if there’s a way to understand the benefits of psychedelic therapy for everybody, the real pathway is through veterans who Ai think are the most needing of it, the most deserving of it, the most the the most neglected in terms of the the just the horrors that they experience and having to carry this around their ai, and that there’s a way that many people have experienced relief and it’s not available to them.
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And it’s not something that’s dangerous. It’s not something that’s addictive. You literally can’t you can’t even eat enough psilocybin to kill yourself. It’s not even Oh, yeah. You can’t do it. No. You wouldn’t be able to consume it. Ai. So why?
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And
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it’s and it’s, been demonstrated to really help.
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At least a lot. Here’s what’s most important. All of it became illegal in the sweeping ai act of 1970 that was designed by the Nixon administration so that they could demonize anti war protesters. So they could they could arrest anti war protesters, civil rights protesters, the Black Panthers.
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They made all that stuff illegal because all these counterculture people were all using that to completely change Yeah. The programming that they received in society.
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Think about the irony of that, like, the deep, deep irony that they made this stuff illegal because they thought if it was out there, they wouldn’t be able to get their wars. So they make it illegal and they get their wars, and then it turns out that this is the thing that helps the people that are traumatized coming back from war, but you can’t have it because it’s illegal.
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Well, it’s the clearest shifting
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Is that irony? Something like that.
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It is irony. It is irony because it’s the pathway to help for a lot of these guys that come back. You ask them to do unspeakable things in modern society that are against the law, and you force them to do it. You go force them to go kill people. They see their friends killed.
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Yeah.
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And then they come back here, and there’s no tools when there are tools. So but they have to go to Mexico to utilize these tools. They have to go to Costa Rica and the Amazon. They have to go to all these different places because it’s illegal in the very place that sent them over there to the the very place that tells them it’s legal for you to go kill people that you’ve never met, but it’s not legal for you to take psilocybin that might help you get over the fact that you killed people.
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Yeah.
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It’s a I know my, ai buddy, Michael Ai, who, he just started a media company called Dissident Media. He’s been big on this. This is ai he’s like an activist who’s been working on, like, the decriminalization of, psilocybin for for years. And that’s one of the major reasons because it helps these soldiers so much.
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We need to be kinder, all of us, to each other. We need to, at this moment in time, especially. And I’ve I’ve seen a lot of people say we have to just accept the results, which I think is wonderful. We do have to accept the results. But, also, we have to remember that we are one team. This is team USA, and there’s plenty of room for everybody. We all want the same things.
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We all wanna be healthy. We wanna we wanna protect our loved ones. We wanna be safe, and we wanna prosper. Everybody wants the same thing. You wanna be able to do what you want. You wanna be able to have a happy life and a healthy life.
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This is the one shot that we get at this experience. We can all do this together. We can all do this. And one of the ways that people can come to these conclusions and realize that we’re all connected is through psychedelics. I’m not saying that they’re a perfect pathway.
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I’m not saying that it’s good for everybody. I think it’s dangerous for some people, particularly people that have a hard time with regular reality. If regular reality is slippery for you, if you have psychiatric conditions, maybe that’s not the thing for you. But for most of us, it would benefit us, and we should have been exploring this.
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And it was stopped 54 fucking years ago by a corrupt government that wanted to squash anti war protests. That car that I showed you Mhmm. When I was explaining to you
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Such a cool car.
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That car exists because of drugs. Yeah. The ones afterwards suck. Yeah. The reason why the ones afterwards suck is that’s a ai Nova. When you get into the 19 seventies, cars turned to dog shit. It’s exactly after they cut off the psychedelics.
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No one’s making a good car arya cocaine. You need the psychedelics to make
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a cruel
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car. Yeah.
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All the designs, they all turn to shit. Yep. The classic cars are cars from the sixties and the seventies and the early seventies. That’s what people want. Nobody wants eighties cars. Yeah. They don’t want them. They’re worth nothing. Like, nobody gives a shit about them.
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It’s very
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But you find ai 1969 Corvette, you look at it, like, woah. Look at that thing. Because the designers were doing drugs, man. Yeah. They were wild people. We’re do they’re artists. The music. Look at the music between ai sixties and then go into the 19 eighties, like, what the fuck happened? Yep.
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We had Hendrix and The Doors and The Beatles. We had this wild experimental stuff.
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Yeah. And then if you’ve ever done you listen to that music and you’re, like, oh, I know what inspired this.
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Oh, yeah. This is pretty easy to tell. The entire Grateful Dead catalog is all psychedelically inspired.
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And you almost have to be
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on psychedelics to appreciate them. That all was squashed by this desire to stop people from protesting in a horrible, unjust war.
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Yeah. And look, meh. I mean, that I think that’s a great message to get to Trump. Like, let these guys like, they were they were, like, the bravest amongst us who got totally tricked and bribed and propagandized into going to these wars, and then they come back and they’re blowing their brains out by the tens of 1,000.
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Yeah.
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And these are something that might help. Yeah. That is very low risk of of almost no risk of, like, it actually hurting, and it really might help. No risk of infection. Even better than that, man, would just be keep us out of these wars.
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Out of
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these wars. Not ai, man. Let’s just. And, look, I will say this this is one of the things that I’m really optimistic about is that of that team that we were talking about earlier that Donald Trump’s got around him, you know, all those people like Elon Musk and and, Vivek Ramaswamy and JD Vance and and, Tucker Carlson and and all these guy David Sachs.
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David Sachs is probably the best. They’re so good on Ukraine. Every one of them. Like, they’re all just like, yeah. No. This makes no sense.
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This is such a clear cut situation where you could easily make a deal. Vladimir Putin and I know I’ve talked about this on past shows. And anybody go listen to those and go read Scott Horton’s amazing book, Provoked. But just to just very quickly, it is all but accepted at this point.
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Nobody’s even debate when I first, came on the first podcast that we talked about Ukraine, wherever, a few years ago now, when I said, oh, there was a peace deal, like, that was agreed to in principle by Ukraine and Russia, and then Boris Johnson came in to on behalf of the US to make sure they didn’t negotiate a speak and kept the war going.
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There were a bunch of people who were, like, oh, that’s not true and blah blah blah. And there’s and now it’s just been totally, ai, fit like, that 100% I was right about that. They had a peace deal worked out. And then since then, the, the guy whose name I always butcher, but it’s Norwegian, so I don’t know how to Strassolberger, the head of NATO, he came out and said and he was bragging, but he goes, you know, Vladimir Putin, before he invaded Ukraine, told us that if we just put it in writing that we would not bring Ukraine into NATO, that he wouldn’t invade.
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And we told him no because we won’t be bullied by you. So he’s, like, bragging about how they had an opportune all they had to do was sai, we will not bring your biggest neighbor into our military alliance, which is very clearly against you, the most reasonable demand. Now I’m not saying it’s reasonable that he invaded. That’s not reasonable. But the it is a totally reasonable demand if the US was to say, no.
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Mexico can’t be a part of China’s military alliance. You know? Like Ai
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super reasonable.
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Sai that’s so he’s got so many great people around him on that, but I don’t it’s not exactly the same with the Israel Gaza war where he it seems like a lot of the people around him are not so great on that. Some of them are. Some of them are really good on that. But I’m really hoping he could
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a podcast with you, me, and him.
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Ai you’re speaking my language.
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Let’s go, Dave.
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Dude, let’s do it. Let’s go. I was and listen, I’ve I’ve been I’ve I’ve voted for him. I’ve been supporting him and stuff. Yeah. But, you know, I think, I would love to do that. But I just Sai whether it’s me or not, I just hope that he gets the message through somehow. The and I know it’s a complicated thing to to navigate because Israel has a lot of influence on our government, and they’ve got and he’s got people like, Vivek Ramaswamy and Tucker Carlson who really are non interventionists and don’t wanna see American taxpayer dollars being used to fund wars around the world no matter who it’s for.
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You know? Like, it’s just like, hey. We’re broke. We got our own problems here, and we can’t afford to do this. But then he also has, Meh Adelson who cut him a $100,000,000 and, is probably gonna give another 100 or $200,000,000 to congressional candidates in the next midterm election and all of this.
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And her she is singularly focused on one issue. And that issue is that we always unconditionally and unwaveringly support Israel no matter what they’re doing.
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We’re gonna set up that conversation.
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Let’s do
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it, bro.
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I’m gonna set that up. Dave Smith, you’re a fucking national Trevor. Treasure. Nat you you really are. You’re a national treasure. You’re you’re so important, and the fact that you can talk about these things, you have such great recall, but you’re also funny It’s so important.
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You know, I’m so happy you’re out there.
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Well, thank you. And that means a lot to meh, particularly just because it’s coming from you, dude. And I’m ai, dude, I’ve been so goddamn impressed with you since well before I ever knew you. And I’ll tell you, after the last couple weeks, dude, I’m like, I I just can’t even believe it. I can’t even believe it’s real, dude. But thank you.
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Thank you for having me again.
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My pleasure. And ai.
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We’ll do it again.
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Thanks. Oh, yeah.
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We’ll wrap it up.
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Alright. Bye, everybody ai.
