#2216 – Luke Bryan

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#2216 – Luke Bryan Podcast Episode Summary

In this episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the discussion covers a range of topics, from the pressures of hiring to personal reflections on life and success. The episode begins with a sponsorship message for ZipRecruiter, highlighting its efficiency in helping employers find quality candidates quickly. This sets the stage for a broader conversation about pressure and performance, both in business and personal endeavors.

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the importance of focus and mindfulness, as illustrated by an anecdote about elk hunting. The speaker emphasizes the mental benefits of concentrating solely on the task at hand, suggesting that such focus can improve one’s life and mental health.

The episode also touches on the pitfalls of media and public perception, with a story about a misunderstanding involving Waylon Jennings’ daughter. This anecdote underscores the challenges of communication and the potential for misinterpretation in the public eye.

A recurring theme throughout the episode is the critique of modern life, particularly the influence of pharmaceutical companies and the tendency for people to drift through life without purpose. The speaker questions whether individuals are truly making a positive impact on others and encourages listeners to reflect on their contributions to the world.

Actionable insights from the episode include the importance of staying focused, being mindful of how one’s actions and words are perceived, and striving to make a meaningful impact. The overall message is to be inspired by others’ success but to maintain a balanced perspective and not take life too seriously.

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The Joe Rogan experience.

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Ai day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

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Hey. What’s up, Luke? Good.

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This has been, thank this has been a long time in the making.

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Well, I need to thank you for taking care of my family when they came to your show.

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I hope they had a great time.

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They had a fucking fantastic time. But it was also my daughter was, like, freaked out because she was going to the show. She didn’t know she’s gonna get to meet you, and her friend didn’t know they were gonna get to meet you either.

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So we we were able to keep that a keep that a good little good little, good little secret to them. So

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It was cool. They had the best time. They they came back beaming. So thank you.

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Well, Vegas, you know, that was wrapping up Vegas. So, yeah, we, that was a that was a a fun 2 years of of residency there.

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Did you do 2 years there?

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I did. Yeah. I did 2 years, 26 shows per year. Dude, man, like

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Vegas will take a little piece of your soul. Just a little tiny piece.

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Well, the thing about it is, like, all of that get to Vegas and, like, you know, you run to the craps table or blackjack table your whole life getting to Vegas dude Ai got all that Ai could I’m like I get to Vegas I’m like man let’s just sit in the ram, watch a little sports, and I got got the gambling out of the system.

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Well, that’s good. Did you used to did you just gamble a lot?

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You know, I’ve always been I’ve never been a sports gambler. Ai dad raised me to kind of be a poker player kind of kid. He was ai a I meh, I used to joke if my dad didn’t play poker, we’d have never had Santa Claus. You know. He I mean, he was I mean, he was just a crazy little poker player and ai a little pool hustler and then and then

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Oh, so he was all in? He was all in?

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Well, so one of my dad’s famous quotes is so we we we he flies me out to Vegas when I’m 21 or whatever. And, man, Ai had, like we were in college, and I had took, like, 3 or $400 with meh, you know, just broke as shit. And 30 minutes in the trip, lose my money. And, you know, this was ai well, where we were still had truck phones. You know?

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I’m not even sure we were, like, toting no. We certainly didn’t have, like, the Motorola RZR where he could just call me. So he just goes looking for him, and he calls my hotel ram. And I’m he’s like, boy, what you doing? He’s real Georgia real southern Georgia.

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I said, I lost all my damn money and hell with this place. He goes, well, you ain’t gonna win it back in the goddamn room. Sai, I mean, once you have that That ai. That mindset in gambling, certainly. I mean, when that’s your dad going.

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And so that’s been a famous saying when my buddies, you know, when they when they’re down and out, down 2 or 3 grand and they’re pouting over the bar, you know, you’re not going to win it back at the goddamn bar. So but I did I went through phases where, you know, I I never really got financially behind when I didn’t have money.

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I would just I I controlled it pretty well. And I I did my 2 years out there. I never really, had any big beats or anything like that. But I do love to just, man, I love to just sit there, have a drink, have a cigar, and watch dice and cards because you’re just not you’re just sitting there and your mind’s checked out.

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Right. It’s like no different than, you know, going to the driving range and hitting golf balls or sitting on the bank fishing or sitting in the deer stands. Right. It’s been but I got out of there. I got all my gambling, at least for now, out of my system. But it was great to meet your kids there.

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And

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I really appreciate it. They they really enjoyed it. And ai I said, they were just on they were blown away meeting you. They were Well, it

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was a fun show because we got to really do a lot of bells and whistles out there that aren’t available on normal shows when you’re, you know, out touring and stuff because you’re having to take down stuff, be real mobile out there. We put a lot of stuff in the ram.

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And Well, that’s nice that the that’s one good thing about the residency. You know, you’re going back the same spot over and over again.

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And we had our routine. I mean, I have my my ram, and, you know, about 6:30, I’d hop in the shower, run down there, and get on stage about 8:30 and knock it out, and 10:30, somewhere at a craps table.

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I’m I’m lucky I don’t gamble. I don’t do it.

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You never got into sports? Nope. Nope.

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I ai, I used to bet on fights. Back in the early days of the UFC, I used to bet on ai, and they one day, they made it illegal, but I already stopped doing it because I was like, this is probably not a good thing for me to be betting on things I’m commentating on ai I can’t affect the outcome.

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Right.

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But I ai Still quite close.

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I also sometimes know some shit. You know, there’s been a bunch of ai. So one of my business partners, I I would just I would tell him to what to bet on and we were at, like, 84% at one time. It was

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crazy. Yeah. Wow.

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For, like, 6 or 7 fights in a row, 6 or 7 fight cards in a row, we’re about 84%. Because every now and then, they would have these guys who are coming in from Japan or from Russia and, the the odds makers didn’t know who these guys were. And I was like, oh, Jesus Ai. And you Meh.

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You already

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Oh, yeah. I knew those guys. Studying them for yeah. You have. Years. I knew I knew everything about these guys. I’m like, Jesus Christ, bet the fucking house. Lay up. Yeah. There’s a few. Like, when Anderson Silva came into the UFC, I was like, bet the house. Bet the house on the Brazilian.

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Love

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it. Whatever you got, I go throw it all at this guy. You can’t fucking lose. Because when he came into the UFC, he was, like, in his ai, and I got to see him evolve in Japan and then later on in England. And so when he when he came in the UFC, I think he was a favorite over this ai, Chris Liebmann.

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He’s a really tough guy, but I’m like, whatever the whatever the odds are, fucking throw it all at that guy.

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I bet y’all. Were you were you betting with him too at that time? Ai already stopped. Yeah.

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I was like, I can get in trouble. I don’t Don’t

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don’t need to get get any trouble now either. Don’t lose the gig.

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Well, now now the UFC made a law, and it was real bryden, like, 2 years ago. Up until, like, 2 years ago, all staff, anyone could bet. Now no one can bet.

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Really?

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Yeah. Because there was a scandal. 1 of the trainers apparently was involved allegedly was involved, would knew about an injury Yeah. And then it turned out there’s probably some other bets arya little shady that perhaps allegedly people were involved with. So they’re ai, okay.

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We gotta put a stop to this, which is too bad because it was fucking it’s nice to know. So if I was unscrupulous I had a little

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so I went my whole life no sports betting. Through college, I mean, my I through college, I’d walk in, and my buddies back then, they’d spliced 7 8 TVs together, and they’re they got all their ai got all their notes. And and I’m like and I’m like, dude, no wonder you’re fucking you got all d’s, and you’re you’re you’re you’re about to get shipped out of college.

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But I survived all vatsal. And, me and a buddy, we started picking 2 games a week, and we would load up. And this was this was ai 6 years ago, 5 years ago, so I would load up ai ram a game. And but I I was strict, and I and I I had my deal. And, yeah, it just, we, like, bet.

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I mean, just take Alabama and the points in the first half. You do that most of the year. I mean, it was 80%, so we did well. And then my buddy moved away from me, and we quit talking about it. And I just then I went rogue for, like, 2 years.

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I was betting, like, Utah State at at you know, the West Coast game midnight ai throwing bets in. Ai was like, man, I’m out. So I’ll stop. But Did

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you see Uncut Gems? Yes. Dude, that movie tripped so much anxiety.

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That movie tripped me out.

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I think it tripped everybody out there. What a great movie.

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Especially if you’ve dipped your toe into that world of, like, sana I’ve got buddies that do parlays and, like, I’m not even sure I even understand the inner workings of parlays now. Ai, I mean, and teasers and all that.

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Right. Right.

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And, you know, I’m I’m so removed from that level of sport. Like, let you know, so and ai doing 4 late gonna get 4 layups at the half. And, man, that that’ll that’s that’s opening up Pandora’s box there. So

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is. And you gotta think there’s people that are involved. Like, there’s been scandals where referees were involved, where referees are making calls they shouldn’t have made, maybe calling fouls they shouldn’t have called, and people getting paid. There’s so much money being thrown around and, you know, the average referee, what do they make? You know?

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Hey, dude. So I saw you at the I’m a giant Georgia fan, and I saw you obviously on the ai, on Saturday and just, man, some of those calls. Yeah. There’s some bad calls. Weird.

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We actually left after the Q1 and went to see Meh. Sai we had an epic day. We saw Q1 of, UT Georgia

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Yeah.

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And then jetted and went to M&M at the racetrack. Oh, in Formula 1? Yeah. M and M played in front of, like, a 150,000 people. It was fucking wild. Weekend for Austin too.

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I mean, because I had buddies Ai had buddies that were ai, why are you not coming? And I’m like, man, I’ve had to be me all year, and it’s like the weather’s chilly in Nashville. My boys wanna go deer hunting. I’m gonna take them deer hunting, sit on my back patio, and scream at the TV. And but, yeah, it got a little dicey there on the back.

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Sai was like, oh, it was weird.

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Yeah. Well, just the energy. There’s so much so much anticipation for a game like that. You can’t replicate

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it. You can’t replicate it in any other in any other I guess those big, global, Brazil versus matches. Yeah. Argentina or whatever.

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We had some friends from England who had never been to an American football game.

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What was their take on it?

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They were blown away. They’re like, oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. This is madness. Ai, this is Texas football.

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It’s so fun, though.

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It gets serious here.

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It’s ai. Shoot the cannon. Boom.

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Did you shoot it through the Georgia shirt,

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that one? Yeah. Oh, gosh.

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Maybe I gave

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it bad luck. You hurt my heart. No. Maybe it

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was bad luck because they lost. Maybe what? Maybe it’s a fucking rude thing to do. Oh,

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we, yeah, man. It was, it was, it was a good win for Georgia. And ai I said, both those programs are just so

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Incredible. Incredible. It’s when you’re watching it behind the scenes, you know, watching how much organization there is, and it’s it’s incredibly complex.

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Through the years, Kirby and Ai, have gotten to be pretty good buddies. You Kirby can’t be buddies with anybody because, that job requires I’ve never seen a ai of a job more than being a college.

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It’s probably like being a president.

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It’s it is. And and and sai I don’t text Kirby during the saloni, really. I I know he and, man, just watching what those guys go through trying to manage these big programs like that. I meh, and when they’re not coaching, I mean, dude, they are politicking. Yeah. I mean, they gotta go to the speak supper for this Mhmm.

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For this touchdown club here. You know, sai, man, it is a

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it’s a wild ride what those dudes go through. And when you think about gambling with calls, like bad calls, that has gotta be imagine all your money’s on the ai, and you see some horrendous call, and you fucking

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See, I’m out of that. And I I I didn’t really get into that heavily even when I was betting regular games. But, man, it’s it’s it’s free to man, I just watch the games with freedom, and I don’t I don’t get in. You know?

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I’m good friends with Dana White, and, Dana’s a a he’s a real degenerate.

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Ai, a I love how big that’s the best way to describe

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Oh, he’ll describe it that way.

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Oh, yeah. Like most from him. They most like, your big horse racing guys Uh-huh. They all their adjective of themselves is I’m a degenerate. That’s the first thing that’s

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Jamie and I Jamie and I went to visit. We went with Shane Gillis and a bunch of other guys who went to visit Dana Ai Gamblin. When we got there, he was down $600,000. And I was like, what is happening? I heard

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him say

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he learned how to play back ram because you can bet more. Ai, you can meh, like, 500 k a gun or something. It’s crazy like that.

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That’s so crazy. I could I I was getting anxiety just sitting there watching. And so then then Taylor Luan came over, and Dana and Taylor have this deal where Dana teaches Taylor what to gamble and how to do it. They’re down a $120,000 in what? 5 minutes? 5 minutes. 5 minutes are down a $120. And I’m just sitting there going, what the fuck, man? Look.

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Dana is rich as shit. Obviously. I know Taylor is wealthy, but there’s, like, a level where you could lose a $125,000 is a $125,000.

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Well, yeah. I mean, I’ve learned kinda ai if you’re betting a 1,000 a hand, you can get down 50 Yeah. Like, in Yeah. Quick. But when you transition to that 30, 40, 50,000 a hand, you’ll be down a 1000000 or a 1000000 or 2. And and Ai I say because I’ve watched some other buddies that bet on that level.

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I’m talking about, like, 15 hand swing is a $800,000 swing, and I’m like but that’s the scary part about gambling when you start when you don’t have much money and you grow into some money, but your your level of what you sana pressure, your anxiety level and your endorphins and all that, it grows with your your wealth, and then next thing you know, you’re

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Well, that’s the only way they get their fix too.

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They can’t pay $20 a hand. Yeah. Right. That goes away.

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Right.

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It’s like

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Right.

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Well, it’s like the whole you know, it’s there’s a lot in society that, you know, I think we’re preyed upon with those with that thought process, gambling, and and a lot of them.

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Hits. Ai.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then once one level of the dopamine levels out, then then you go to the next one.

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Yeah. It’s it’s hard to watch. Forget about doing it. It’s hard to watch. Like, I don’t I don’t get it.

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I’m glad I know it. Sana say that that I’ve always had fun with it. I mean, I I’ve always had fun gambling. And and a lot of times, I’d take my band after we get off stage, and we’d have one band night. And I’d, like, set them all up with some chips. And and I’ve gotten vatsal craps table where I can kinda manage everybody’s bets, and I’m like, don’t do that now. Wait. Wait.

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And it’s kinda like the, you know, steering the mother shah, and we we had some great nights, you know, just laughing and cutting up and, you know, cheering. You know, you know, like I said, 1 guy walks up, and everybody rubs his head for good. You know, it’s just it’s just camaraderie, you know, at the at the craps table. I I I gambled so much at the craps ai.

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My last night, They let my craps team that dealt me all the craps come on stage, and we’re ai. I’m out there, like, I’m playing, and I look at my you know, because they work in teams. You know? They all and my team comes out on stage, and, dude, I was roaring laughing. I’m like yeah. So That’s hilarious.

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Ai. I know people have a problem with gambling. I think it should be legal, but it can get away from you. Yeah. Well But that’s ai a lot of things in this world. Alcohol. Yeah. There’s a lot of things that can get away from you. Yeah.

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It doesn’t mean it should be illegal.

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Right. Well, Lord.

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It’s just weird that it’s only legal in a few states. I think that’s expanding now. And then Ai remember when online gambling was illegal.

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Oh, yeah.

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And then Wasn’t that long ago? The early days of the UFC, online gambling was illegal.

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And then my you know, in because we’re obviously Southeastern Tennessee Ai Belt, and I I I don’t know, but there’s there’s certain states. I guess Tennessee is a legal gambling state because ram maybe Georgia. I can’t tell. I have to I have to talk to my nephews, all of his buddies and see if they’re on the little apps.

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But, man, they’ll go sign their buddies up to get the $200 free I mean, they got all kind of little racket.

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Yeah. Well And then also people would go to Indian reservations. That was the big one. Ai.

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And you

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gotta Also crazy. Like, gambling’s illegal.

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The you gotta pay the Indian reservation tax.

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Right.

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You know, you gotta pay your 50¢ to do the dollar bet. Yeah. Do that math.

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Yeah. And you only have to be, like, a small percentage Native American to get a piece of that. So there’s a lot of millionaires just hanging around that casino just enjoying it. But if you got a place ai in Connecticut, like

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Oh, Mohegan and all that. They’re great places. Know, ai, on my way kinda the Mohegan, I’d go play there a couple of years. I did one night, I did 3 nights there, and, dude, I’m, like, getting off stage, just sitting there gambling, and, you know, I’m, like, am I coming out ahead on this gig or what?

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But I think I got out there making a little money.

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Yeah. It’s it’s weird, though, that you could do that legally. Ai, it’s

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Well, then even, like, in Tennessee and Tunica back in the day, you just put a barge on the Mississippi River and you can gamble. It’s ai, what is that all about? Sai ai,

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does that show Ozark? Right.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, totally the same premise, you know. It’s like put a barge on the river and now let’s take all these people’s money.

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Yeah. My buddy Johnny used to he was a pool hustler. He used to call people riverboat gamblers. When guys would just go off and, you know, a guy was a gambling addict, you just trick him into a game. He’s like, ai a riverboat gambler.

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Or yeah. That’s the 2 analogies. Degenerate or riverboat gambler. Yeah. Yeah. Be be be careful of all of them. So It’s

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just always been funny to me that, like, Native American reservations are essentially a country inside the country, and they could do whatever the fuck they want. Like, I was just reading about this Colorado wolf deal, you know, when they’ve, relocated wolves to Colorado and the Native American reservation let them know the moment those wolves get onto our land.

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We’re flying over in helicopters and gunning them down.

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I was I I I elk hunt every year in Colorado. And and is that where you’ve done?

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I’ve done Colorado. Most of the years, I go to Utah.

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Yeah. Well, first of all, Cam Haines and Ai, you know, we we’ve got a connection with Cam and just love that guy. But, yeah, we so when I saw Colorado do that, I was like, it’s just ai, what what are we doing, guys?

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Well, whenever you have biology that’s getting voted on by people who don’t understand it, It should be decided by wildlife ai. That’s it. That’s the only people that should decide whether or not things like that happen.

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Well, we can really dive into this, and let’s do it. Yeah. My thing is we are so governed in the world of wildlife biology through the states and stuff they’re not sana let animals they’re not gonna let humans ruin animal populations. I don’t think anymore. No. Of course. If anything’s gonna happen, they’re gonna mess it up and let animal populations get too big. Right.

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Ai was I was and I don’t know if I I don’t know who to name or whatever, but I was with some guys with Ai, and, you know, we’re talking about grizzly bears. Mhmm. And I said, meh, you know, because they they brought up, you know, grizzly bear problems, and I said, well, what what what is the deal?

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And they said, well, there’s 15 hun or 14 to 1500 grizzly bears in Wyoming. There needs to be 5 to 600, and and 5 of the 1500 are only hunting humans. Ai, have totally have totally

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But there’s not that many human deaths.

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Well, you meh in Yellowstone, you if you pay attention, there’s about 2 or 3 that get that get Right.

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But those 500 grizzly bears that are just hunting No. ai. 5.

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ai. 5. Not 500.

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So there’s 5 grizzly bears.

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Right. There’s 5 grizz sorry. This probably won’t be the first time I am not totally clear with you. But yeah. So there’s there’s 5th 4 to 1400 to 1500. There needs to be 500 to 600 grizzlies. And but of the

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of those 5 to 6 oh, of the all of

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them, 5 of them are have ai, oh, we don’t we don’t care about salmon anymore. We sana sit by this trail and pick off this hiker.

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Jesus Christ.

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That is a high up biologist in Wyoming telling me that, and I’m like, well, why won’t they let y’all go in there, let some hunters think about the the you can do the math chart do a $30,000 grizzly bear tag. Mhmm. Do a $20,000 one. They’ll go for that. Yeah. For sure.

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Go in and let it manage it right, but there’s one federal judge that’s got it all shut down. One judge.

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That’s so crazy. My friend went, moose hunting. He said he saw no moose, and he saw 12 grizzlies in Wyoming.

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I went on a bear hunt in Alberta, and there’s so many grizzlies now you can’t even go it was through Cam’s people.

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John and Jen.

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Yeah. They’ve I saw them recently, and they’ve had to move,

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like Yeah. They move areas. Yeah. They have abandoned areas because they’re overrun with grizzlies. They sent me some trail ram pics. They’re terrifying. Like, little school buses. They’re like school buses. Like, the size of these fucking grizzlies.

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Did you was it you that was talking about we were ai they were trying determine a male grizzly versus male gorilla and who would win? Did we ever was

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ai I think I’m on team grizzly.

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Me too.

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Because they eat things and kill things every day. Gorillas just they they fight. They just, ai, they puff their chest out. They mostly eat grass.

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Well, but when you think about 30, $40,000 per grizzly and then the the guiding fee Yeah. And then the taxidermy Yeah. Think about the taxidermist

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And then the Pittman Roberts. People need to understand all the gear, everything, 10% of that goes to wildlife management. All of it.

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And then at the end of that, nobody’s gonna let the grizzlies get

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Exterminated. Right. It’s not it’s they’re overpopulated now.

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And then when you look at the population, the how beautiful the elk population is in Colorado Yeah. And how amazingly Colorado for public hunters, for a guy like me

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that

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can go get a over the counter tag, I think they’re probably gonna wipe out over the counter tags for out

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of staters. They’re gonna make it a draw tag.

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And then now the wolves get to eat them, and I don’t get to bring my elk hunting money in and give it to the

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Right.

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But the thing

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is they’ve what they always say that they’re gonna get to a certain level of the population and then they’re gonna open it up for management, but they don’t.

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Wolf management?

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Yeah. But what happens is people sai. And the wildlife, you know, all the people that are ai that love wolves, they fault, they sue. And when they sue, they they stop the hunt and then it has to go to court and it has to get decided. And if you get a radical judge like this judge that you said that’s in Wyoming

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And these arya all things that people in the know are telling me. So, Lord,

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I don’t I

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don’t need a judge somewhere in Wyoming, like, pulling my

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No. You’re probably right. You’re probably right. Everyone that I know that hunts there says that there there’s a lot of grizzly bears, and it’s concerning because you don’t see all of them. If you see a lot of them, there’s a lot more than you don’t see because most of them are just not just out in the open hanging out with you.

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Most of them are deep

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in the middle. And and so I went on a Ai went on a saloni trip up in British Columbia. And what you 99% of your interpretation of a grizzly is this big old fat chunky thing. Well, so we’re flying in on these helicopters to go fish the salmon runs that are running up into the mountains of British Columbia, and it’s an amazing trip.

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Like, you fly over in the helicopter, you look down, you see the huge schools of saloni, you take your fly rod, and you go catch them and drink your beer. Well, helicopter pilot was like, hey, man. We’ve seen some grizzlies in the area just and, you know, at the time, we’re like, man, this is all part of the, experience. Yeah.

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It’s ai, get a get us kinda going a little bit. Well, we land, and the night before, we didn’t fish that day, so we’d flown in and drank some wine. And, dude, you know, my eyes arya, like, fuzzy, and we’re fishing. And I tell my guy I’m with him, like, hey. I’m gonna go to the helicopter and get a beer or something.

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And and, dude, I get there ai I pop my beer, and I’m ai, I looked down the river, and I’m like,

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fuck. That is a fucking grizzly

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coming toward my buddy. And I went, Jay. And, dude, it was slim and like a ram it was lean and like a greyhound. Not I wouldn’t say lean, but it hadn’t it hadn’t got all fat on salmon yet. Well, it comes down the bank and jumps in, and and we ease back to the helicopter. We look back. Here comes another grizzly literally 30 yards from us.

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And I’m like, we get there, and I ai left my beer on the bank, and my grizzly sticks his tongue in my beer. And then he jumps in the river. I run, grab the beer, drink. I’m like, grizzly spit. Anyway, the helicopter pilot goes

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You did not drink a beer ai grizzly.

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Sip of it after. I had to.

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But that’s, like, that’s how it felt like. Ai enosis, wild shah that I get from that.

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Some berry infection or whatever Yeah. Salmon infection. Moose ass. So listen, dude. We get on the helicopter, and the pilot’s like, man, they’re they’re getting too comfortable. We take off, fly a mile down the river. I I’d already had my fly rod together. I never broke it down, so I sai it in a little basket, and we land. I take off about 200 yards, start fishing.

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And I had I had I had to slide down this, like, 20 foot cut bank where the river had cut the bank. I look across the river,

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and here comes a grizzly bear galloping

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Oh, boy. On the other side of the river. And I’m like, well, I’ve already seen the other 2 mature ones, and I was like, well, that’s a baby grizzly. That’s I was like, that’s cute. Dude, that grizzly hits that bank on the other side of that river and jumps about 20 feet in the air and lands in that river.

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It looked like a a Volkswagen VW bug hit that river. I take off to the helicopter. All my guys are like, get here. Get here. A mother and 2 2 of the babies were on my tail.

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Oh my god. And when

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I got to the helicopter, dude, ruined my whole trip. I couldn’t realize.

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That’s how you get scary when you’re on the mothers.

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Oh, they’re they’re the ones that,

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They fuck everybody up.

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Yeah. In 2 seconds.

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Yeah. They don’t play any games.

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When they

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have their cubs with them, they don’t take any chances. Like, I’m gonna incapacitate this dude. Yeah. Fuck him.

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It is, so that was my that was my grizzly encounter. Wish

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all these people that get to vote ai BC when BC outlawed grizzly bear hunting. I wish all those people that you should have to experience what it’s actually like there. You should have to see.

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You should have to see

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the population. You see what it’s like experiencing them. These aren’t teddy bears. And you for you saying you should be able to manage the population as ai life biologists say it should be managed, you’re putting people in danger, especially people that live up there.

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The thing about it with me now listen, I grew up deer hunting my whole ai, ducks, dove, quail. And, man, I always had a soft spot for bears. And probably, I still it’s not like I gotta go shoot bears every year. I mean, whatever. But when you find out when you hear you are a hunter and there are like, when I met John and and Jenny, and they were like, Luke, there are so many that are that need to be managed.

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I was like, man, that’s cool. Let’s go let’s go do a bear hunt. Had a great time and didn’t, you know, didn’t get all heady with killing a bear. I mean, I know guys in Tennessee, in Gatlinburg, Joe. I mean, dude, they are darting black bears off saloni story, Holiday Inn Saloni.

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They’re digging in, I mean, they’re digging in candy, you know, vending machines.

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Oh, yeah.

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Walk and I’m like, dude, it’s just a matter of time somebody’s gonna walk out their saloni, and these they’re gonna get they’re gonna get got right there.

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100%. And

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they dart them and move them back into the Smoky Mountains. And then

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You know what happened in New Jersey. Right? The governor ran on this policy of banning the grizzly bear hunt, and he got in or excuse me, the black bear hunt.

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In Jersey. In Jersey.

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Jersey has the most black bears per capita in the country, which is crazy. I’m gonna send you something because I sent this to Cam, last night because it’s nuts. This dude just shot the, state record. So it’s back in? Yes. It’s back in immediately because they had so many interactions.

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Ai mother lives in Mexico Beach, Florida on the panhandle. A lot over there too. And they ai, trash cans turned over every day. Crazy amounts in in South Georgia and Florida.

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Yeah. That’s it. So I have a photo of the bear, Jamie. I’m gonna send it to you next to the dude who killed it. That’s a good one. Okay. Here. I’m a send you this too. But look at that. Look at the size of that bear. So this is in New Jersey. This is New Jersey.

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This is New Jersey. Ai never even 770 pound bear in New Jersey.

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Ai never I didn’t know they were they were up there that They’re dense. Dense with bears. I have

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a buddy who lives out there who sees them all the time.

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So down in the furthest, most southern corner of Georgia, Bainbridge, Georgia, and all that, and then Mexico Beach, Florida around Lake Seminole, I mean, they’re they’re everywhere down there.

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All over the place. You got that photo of that dude laying next to it?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Look at that.

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Look at

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the size of that thing. Now that that article says £800. That’s from severed broadheads. 880. It says 880, but the other article said 770. It looks it’s big. Whatever the actual size it is, it’s big. Look at that sever hole.

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Well, it’s you know, like I said, I shah

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That’s a perfect shot.

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I I I think there’s healthy numbers of all of it. And like I said, when I see, you know, when you sai, I don’t know, wolves and elks.

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Well, there’s more than healthy numbers. Okay. There’s But

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you know what a

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hunt up? 770 oh, gutted. 770 gutted. Woah. That’s what it is. So they weighed in at £770 gutted. So I think it was about 880. 80. Holy shit. Holy shit.

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Yeah. You see they got it in a slide. They had to put it in a well That’s crazy. Man, there’s so many of

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And for people who don’t know, people eat bear, and bear’s good. They taste good.

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Well, and you know the sad part about, I think, California, you know, the whole, the gallbladder deal. I don’t know much about that, but, you know Yeah. There was a black market for black bear gallbladders.

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In some some cultures, ai think it’s medicine.

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And, you know So they

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were killing black bears just for their gallbladder? Yeah. And But I don’t I think that was overblown. I don’t think it’s gonna affect the population. Ai wasn’t guessing, especially in place like New Jersey. How are you gonna affect that population? They’re they’re everywhere there.

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You ever see the the fights they have in Far Rockaway? What’s Far Rockaway? Far Rockaway, New Jersey is like a nice suburb. It’s like a nice neighborhood. Giant bears.

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Jamie, pull that video up. Giant bears crawling ai this guy’s front lawn.

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Did you ever see the guy that filmed, like, the 10 minute grizzly fight?

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This might be oh, yes. I did see that.

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That was

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That was insane. But that’s where grizzlies are supposed to be. This isn’t a fucking neighborhood. These are big bears, and they’re duking it out on this guy’s nice lawn. They go tumbling down the stairs, and they start fighting in the street, and people are watching. And they’re probably fighting over trash cans.

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Look at them.

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So look at the size of these fuckers. Imagine, like, you’re watching TV. You’re Sai these dudes, they duke it out. This is like Jamie, how long is this video? It’s like a 10 minute video. 6 minute video. So 6 minutes for 6 minutes, these dudes duke it out. They they pile out into the street.

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They’re biting each other, and this guy’s filming from a car. And you see it as it, like, trumbles down, like, go yes. Pull pull it down sai when they’re in this. So they come tumbling down the hill, you know, full UFC style duking it out. Passing by this guy’s trap this guy’s mailbox.

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Look at him.

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It goes on forever and they’re out in the street. It’s a nice neighborhood. And you have huge predators in front of a Volvo. I mean, what the fuck? And this guy was trying to ban the hunt. Hey, pal. There’s plenty of these bears. You should hunt them because if you don’t hunt them, they’re gonna hunt you.

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But Well, they’re gonna you know, that that’s the thing. I think it’s no different than I mean, I grew up in South Georgia with gators and Yeah. Same thing. You you get one comfortable with you, meh, and it’s Not good. It is not good at all.

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What’s the problem what we’re dealing with here is ballot biology. It’s all people that are very emotional. Most of them live in cities. Before I ever hunted bear, before I ever hunted at all, I was like, kill a bear? Why? What an asshole. You don’t have to be an asshole to kill a bear.

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And then you get it ai of the Sai was kinda

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the same way.

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But you probably had more honey experience than me. I grew up fishing.

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Whitetail hunting, and I meh, man, you know, being a a 14 year old kid shooting a deer and and having remorse. But then you need to have that remorse too as a hunter. You need to understand

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You’re taking a life.

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Yes. And you need to. And I tell my boys that. My boys have grown up in it seriously. I’m like, hey, man. Hold up. Right. Let’s just don’t run up to the run up to it, chunk it in the machine, just just do a little homage. Ai. So go ahead. But that Yeah. But the remorse go ahead.

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The

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The remorse is important. It’s it’s a part of the experience. Like, you you are now connected to the food that you’re gonna eat.

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Right.

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And I think that’s what most people don’t have. And I think I think that’s bad for us. I think all of human existence has been wrapped around hunting animals, and we hunted them ourselves forever, and then we eventually figured out agriculture. But when we hunted we hunted them ourselves, most of the ai, the humans were human, and we had this deep connection to this animal because this animal is gonna sustain our family.

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And they used it. They took the the the the skin from it, and they made all kinds of things. They took the tendons, they made strings for bows, they

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And the fur.

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Yeah. The fur. I mean, it’s what their clothes are made out of. They ate all the organs. They ate everything. It sustained everybody and that was how people lived. And then when people stopped living like that, we got a little confused. I know people that eat meat. Like, my wife was at dinner with her friends and, that the the they’re from England, and one of the friends said, where’s your husband?

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And she said, oh, he’s he’s, elk hunting. And and the ai made some sort while he was cutting a steak, made some sort of, like, oh, that’s atrocious. Ai did you do that? And she goes, why are you eating meat? You didn’t like, you you paid a supermarket hit meh to go kill that fucking steak. Listen.

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Like, this is so stupid, but when you’re removed from it culturally, and England is basically removed from it culturally, there’s roe deer there and there’s some shah.

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Stag. Yeah.

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But for the most part, England has a very small hunting population, and I believe bow hunting is actually outlawed there. It’s outlawed in a lot of places in Europe. It’s outlawed in Scotland. It’s outlawed in a lot of places. So there’s, like, a deep ignorance as as to what’s going on and what it is, and then they have judgment be based on these cultural norms of ai and there’s media depictions media depictions of hunters in movies.

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They’re never the good guys. They’re always pieces of shit. The hunters are always assholes. They’re always drunk. They’re always, you know, trying to kidnap women or kill somebody. Right?

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They’re always, like, torturing an animal. There’s always something where someone has to come in and fuck up the hunters because hunters are they’re portrayed as bad guys in movies.

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Yeah. And then and and listen. You you you know, you the success rate of the the the proper ethical things always line up. That that that, you know, you don’t the success rate doesn’t always go like you wanted it to. Right. And but, you know, the fact that hunters still are are working every day just to keep hunting and the fact that hunting is declining so bad

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It took a little uptick during COVID. Yeah. Because during COVID, people are like, hey, man. This fucking what if there’s no food? My buddy lived in Asheville, and, he sent me a photo in the middle of the pandemic. He was, dude, he goes, there’s no meat. And he was going down the meat aisle. He’s, like, filming it. He’s ai, there’s no fucking meat here.

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One of the best things that’s just naturally happened at our house and my wife is you know, my wife’s, like, typical housewife, plays tennis, great shape, does it you know, when shah kinda eats like a bird when she does eat, but, man, she will call meh, and she’ll go, hey. Let’s have elk night. And because we keep our freezer in my garage, and I’ve got all my tackle in there. And she has, through the years, understood, like, hey.

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I’m gonna run out to the freezer. We’re gonna do taco ai. I’m gonna throw all the elk meat in the sink, start thawing it. And, man, over the last 5 years, we I’ve woke up and we haven’t had we haven’t had, you know, beef, cattle, and hamburger, tacos, spaghettis, bolognese.

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What we haven’t eaten it in 5 years at my house. And it just it takes you a minute to go, hey. Put it in the freezer and then plan your plan your dinner. You know, we all get busy with kids and stuff like that, but I’m so proud of her that she’ll call me and be like, hey. I’m going out of the freezer. Do you want me to get these elk tenderloins?

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Because by the time me and my I got 3 children that go out there with me now, and 2 or 3 of us will get one. I mean, we got enough meat. Like, it’s awesome that That’s the best food.

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It’s So good for you.

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Man, when you pat out an elk patty hamburger, like, your hands have nothing on it.

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Right. Like, I mean,

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you could take beef patty and just ai it’s just like Fat grease. It’s like caulking. You know?

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That’s also why it tastes so good.

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Right. Which we got it. There’s a time and place for that. But it’s pretty cool that Elk gets that. And and they still have to add a little bit of pork fat to Elk just to keep it. But,

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Ai give a lot of meat away. And whenever I do, when I get text back, I get excited. People are like, ram. This is so good. And it makes me feel better. It does make you feel like,

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there’s something about wild game.

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You get energy from it.

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Well yeah. And and, yeah, when you can go ai we at ai place, at my dear place in Southern Tennessee, yeah, meh, we we just we make sure, man, we got I got a big walk in cooler there, and if we for if we’re not gonna take something in there, I ai I’ve got some red stag up my place in Tennessee.

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I did a high fence down there, and, so between stag and whitetail and elk, you know, we’re moving we’re moving meat around and making burgers.

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Are they roaring on your property? They do. That’s the craziest sound.

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It’s the best.

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I thought the elk sound was crazy. Elk sounds probably the craziest.

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It’s the best. Elk ai. I’m used to it. But the roar But when you hear a

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stag just sounds like a lion. I put one on my Instagram story, Jamie. See if you can find it. This dude just staring at the camera roaring. I bet or I or I hear rather Argentina’s a great place to go.

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Yeah.

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I hear they have a lot of them down in Argentina.

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We it’s interesting because Tennessee is very, very strict on their ai tail.

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Here he is. Listen to this guy. Imagine if you were some dude, and it’s ai a 1000 years ago, and you don’t know what the fuck that is.

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Ai into the woods. So my 14 year old has been going to Colorado with me since he was 5 or 6. And when they’re that little, obviously, they can’t bow hunt, but we would get an elk down, and I’d let the boys hike up with me and and pack the elk out. And one day, we had another hunter with us going to get an elk, and my 2 little ones were following me.

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And I said, well, we had an elk bugle. I said, hey, boys. Stay right here. And they’re they’re 668. And we went up the hill, and I could keep well, Tate, right before I walked off, he goes, dad, are they gonna kill us if we sit here?

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Because I was, like, oh, bugle. I mean, you can feel their bugles in the woods. And I said, no, son.

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You feel them in your chest.

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So we went up and tried to call this elk in, and then some elk did actually cross in front of them. And they’re 6 and 8 just sitting there, these big this big herd of elk come by. And we come back. And I was watch I could see ai sitting down there on this this tall log that I put them on, and I got back and they were like, those that were all I mean, you know, having your boys I mean, that’s that’s what I live for and to to keep the you know?

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And I just wish we could create a narrative where getting your children doing that will will I mean, I don’t know.

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Well, hunting is a very difficult entry. It’s very difficult.

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It is.

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If you’re a person who’s, like, listening to this, like, I’ve never hunted before, but I’d like to learn how to do it. Good luck. It’s very hard

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to do. Ai. Very, very hard.

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It’s very hard to find someone who’s gonna teach you, who has the patience to show you what to do. If you’ve never shot a rifle before, it’s very hard to understand, like, what is the difference between a 300 win mag and a 7 millimeter? What? Is this? No?

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That that’s the that is the tricky part really with all outdoors. Yeah. If you could if you could bridge the gap between all parts of urban life and allow urban life to to find a place to go. But the when we went through a phase in outdoors where landowners were ai, if you hunt my land and you twist your ankle and break your leg, you’re gonna sue meh.

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So, no, you’re not allowed to come hunt my land. So all the deer meh overpopulated, eat all my crops. And then so I think now states I think Tennessee has put a law into where some of those, getting sued. Well, what I’m what I’m saying is that feeds people’s inability to go find somewhere to hunt to them. You’re sai many people don’t have a 50 acre farm.

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They can’t afford it, but they sana to go hunt. And then I just hope the hunting community and even the whole outdoor community can make it more accessible than landowners. I mean, I had this little lady that that I wanted a turkey hunt. Her she had 60 acres that bordered, like, a 300 acre track of mine.

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And I was like, ma’am, when when I’m out hunting and some of my turkeys or our turkeys may cross onto your property, do you mind if I go? And her house is a mile away from or it’s 50 acres, it’s probably 400 yards. She thought my shotgun was sana shoot through her house and kill her.

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And I had to spend 45 minutes. And she grew up in Tennessee in the country, and she doesn’t understand that a shotgun is not, you know. And so, man, the education of it all, just the bridge and the knowledge of it gradually gets worse and worse.

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Right.

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But the need for it Gets greater and greater. Gets greater and greater. And I tell my children all the ai, I’m like, boys, there is no drug in the world. And I’m not a, you know, I I’m pretty straight ai. I’ve never done done much of that, but I said I got a lot of crazy buddies that have and when a big elk’s walking in or a big whitetail or you hook a big fish there, that the the adrenaline from that, no drug will replace it.

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Nothing’s like it. I’ve done some wild shit all the time.

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Ai I’ve seen the documentation of the wild stuff.

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Yeah. I’ve done some wild shit. I’m gonna I’m gonna send you a video, Jamie, of something that happened last week. So this this is, the best example of that. This is the best example that we had this elk, and he was out at about 50 yards. We’d snuck it up snuck in on him. He was over the ridge at 50 yards. We could see the tips of his antlers moving around. I had my sai set at 50 yards.

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And as my friend was calling him, my friend was at a tree that was about 20 yards from me. He came right into our lap. So it’s one of those things where I had a range of 50 50

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and then And then I

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see him coming in. He’s coming in. I dial him again. I range him again at 40. I dial him in. I’m like, oh, shit. He’s coming into our lap. He just kept coming in. Watch this video. It sai do you don’t have any? Goddamn. Modern technology. It didn’t make it through? Oh, it’s still going. Hold on.

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Pressing it to send it through Ai.

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Oh, is that what it is? Ai. Okay. Let me it said it went through. Did it go through? Just got it. Okay. Bust out those cigars.

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You want a little heavier or mild?

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Whenever you have. Here it goes. Check this out. Listen to this listen to this when he comes over the hill and gets angry. Like, when I heard that, I was like, uh-oh. Here he comes. So right now, he’s about 50 yards. What’s your heart doing right now? Right now, I’m pretty calm because he’s at 50 yards. Right. But now, I’m realizing he’s not gonna stop. So I range him again. Now he’s at 40.

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Oh, yeah.

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He pauses for a second. He’s staring right at me. I have to stop.

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Oh, yes. So you’re off to the right.

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I’m off to the right, and I’m pressed up against the tree. Full ram, hiding in plain sight. So now he’s moving out. So now I’m like, oh, shit. I’m moving my sight to 20. So now Ai moving my sight to 20, and Ai trying to figure out a time to draw. So right here, I draw. That’s where he turns. Oh. He needs to see some movement.

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This is the other one. Beautiful. Perfect.

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That was it. Boom. It’s like that and there’s so much nerves and so much, like, anxiety, and you range them. And he’s coming in, and it’s like and you think he’s gonna be at 50, but all of a sudden, he’s at 20. And then it’s like, don’t punch the shot. Like, relax. Execute a perfect shot.

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Well, here’s the beauty of all that in the outdoors. You know, when you here, these are mild. They’re good, though.

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Okay.

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Man, when you when you when you ai conquer one level of fishing or hunting, then there’s another one you can go learn the space in. You know what I’m saying? You can go Right. And what I say is, like, I just I mean, from the elk hunter that I was, the elk hunter that I was 10 years ago, like, took so much took so much work to to even get from a 10% knowledgeable elk hunter to a 60%.

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Now, like, I can watch that elk react to everything and know what that elk’s how that elk’s reacting because I’ve done it for 11, 12 years now, and I’ve got I’ve taken my boys. Well, so when you get tired of whitetail hunting and whitetail hunting gets rudimentary, then go try to dig in and take it to the next level to challenge yourself.

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That’s what’s so fun about, like, when I got I was always a bass fisherman, always a bass fisherman, never fly fisherman. Well, then I got into fly ai, and that became the new 7 year challenge that I Ai

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tie your own flies?

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I I can now the little I can tie big streamers. Right. But, like, the little bitty inch. Meh, like, goggles on that shit. Yeah. I I

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it’s a real art form. Totally

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the one of the most rewarding things you can do.

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Sure. You make your own horse. Your own

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fly Yeah. And trick A big ass fish. A big fish with it. Yeah.

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My my only problem with fly fishing is a lot of it is catch and release. And I’m like, it’s fun. I know it’s fun, but you’re basically just fucking with fish. You’re just fucking with them. Like, I could’ve killed you, bitch.

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You know? Well, I Ai

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get it. I get it.

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The handling of the trout, like, when I was you know, I grew up bass fishing, and we’re ai and the bass flies out of the water. Right. We ram it, and, you know, as kids, we’re like, ah, with the you know, you catch a trout, and it’s like a it’s like sana creature. Yeah. It’s like a a a team in the in the delivery room comes in to hold the the brand new baby or what. Heck, they treat newborns.

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They’re slapping newborns around and getting their lungs going before, you know you mishandle a trout. But you know the whole mystique of trout and all of this stuff is just, meh, it’s outlets for all of us. Ai meh Sai remember when I moved to Nashville, ram, my dad, he kept me fishing and hunting, and he wound up being a pretty dang successful business guy.

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And he tyler me, he ai, dude, when you move to Nashville, don’t forget to take time to go do that stuff. And you know, for about 2 or 3 years, man, I didn’t. I was focusing on my career. But now as I roll out, you know, as I’m kind of Established. It’s, you know, like, man, it’s it’s been the highlight.

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And the fact that 3 boys landed in my life, like, you know, my wife’s like, it’s not even fair that you have because I can always use one of them. I was like, well, baby Beau, you

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know, he’s really been stressed at school and he wants to hunt

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this evening. She’s like, I know your game. I know your game.

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But, well, we’re so lucky in this country too that there’s so much places that that are public land. That’s another thing that Europe doesn’t have. I mean, that’s what Robin Hood was all about. People think Robin Hood was, steal from the rich and give to the poor. No. It’s about hunting lands and hunting rights.

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People were starving and the king had all the land and there was always deer and Robin Hood would go out and whack deer. Like, that was the story about Robin Hood. It really wasn’t about stealing money. It was really about hunting rights.

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Right.

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They don’t have that.

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I didn’t know that.

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Yeah. Well, that’s that’s why it’s so fucked over there. That’s why they don’t have this attitude.

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And that’s why that’s why, you know, you hope the the whole education of hunting and landowners and and conservation of the animals and all the land ties into where, you know, landowners need to have a better understanding of, man, give this old boy a break. Give this guy that just knocked on your door and asked permission the good old fashioned way.

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Man, give him a break and let him take his son or go Yeah. Go hunt, you know, and and don’t, you know, don’t hoard don’t hoard your 15,000 acres to your

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Right. You know? To your dead. But, hopefully, he’s a good guy. That’s the problem also is that assholes ask for permission and then do something stupid.

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You know? Dude, I had a guy shoot a sai. 1 of them 1st year, I put my stag in my fence, shot him right off the road. Really? Left him. Meh, it

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Oh my god.

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You talk about pissed.

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Right off the road. Just shot him and left him.

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Shot them and left them.

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Yeah. Sai, there’s people like that out there, and it’s so fucked up.

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Bad apples. You know? They they’re out there.

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Do that to a stag too? God, that’s so awful. Meh. And the meat is so sensational. To know that that meat is gonna go to waste, that’s so crazy.

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Man, I don’t know. You know? I guess enough whiskey and a whole back road and a ai, you’ll you’ll you’ll you’ll Shitty education, bad childhood, all the above. Well, but,

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Yeah. All the above.

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But, yeah, I mean, I look at, I’ve got Tyler, my nephew, he’s lived with me since he was 12 and then my so Till is 22 now and Bo is 16 and Tate is 14 and Teal was 15 when he killed his first elk. The rule has been if you can pull £55 you’re you’re you’re ready to hunt and so Bo is a lot bigger than Tate when he was 13 and 14.

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So Beau, my 13 year old killed a full grown elk at 13.

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Woah. With a Beau?

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With a Beau. Woah. Totally the friggin’ most badass thing I’ve ever seen. And then Just to be

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that young and be able to execute the shot.

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Dude, he did it, and he earned it. And ai I said, I’ve been hiking them up those hills. That’s what another like, the the hunting and the the killing is that man, when you pack out a damn 800 pound animal the first time I packed my elk out dude when I got to the Polaris Ai mean I was like I was sobbing like from exertion, like, delusional because we took a wrong turn.

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We hit a big aspen blowdown, and I had to tote the head and the cape out, and I had to walk over blown down aspens with that cape. And once we got 500 yards into the blowdown, man, we got that bryden, you know, all and all the elk hunting ai, they’re the toughest they’re the toughest dudes.

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Oh, yeah. They’re doing that all

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year long.

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They’re grizzled. They’re the toughest guys. I tell people, man, if I get called to a serious, ai I get called in in a serious war, I’m calling my Elk gods. That that’s that’s my first that’s my first call. So but it’s you know, and I didn’t grow up ever thinking I’d have the opportunity or the or the, you know, the the ability to go hunt elk.

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But once you start doing it and and and but, you know, man, this this week, I killed Thursday. I killed my biggest whitetail I ever did, and then I was so I’m so, like, overwhelmed by killing it. I haven’t even, like I don’t even know if I’ve enjoyed it yet because it was it kinda happened fast, but, it’s just so fun. You want a picture?

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We How big is it? It was big. Yeah. So listen now and so I didn’t post it because it’s obviously in my high fence and you know the you know, but man this deer was born in the fence. In Tennessee, you can’t bring any genetics in. You can’t do anything. Whatever herd you have, when you Wild herd.

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Whatever wild Tennessee deer you have, you have to grow them. And man, this deer, Joe, when he was 2 years old, we were like, what in the fuck? What a UFO ship dropped this off in here? He started with huge mass, different looking genetics, and we watched him for, we grew him for we feel like he’s sai half.

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And, dude, we are we are over the moon about this. Sai. I know.

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That’s a huge deer. Over the How big is your property?

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It’s, I guess, altogether, it’s probably 11 probably 1200 acres in

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the sense. That is much more space than a deer would ever travel in its natural life anyway.

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I’ll I’ll put it to you this way. We put about 18 red stag in there. They’re up we don’t know how many there are.

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That deer might have get fucked by a stag.

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I think he might have. Mom. Yeah. He might have meh might have crossed a hybrid. Yeah. Dude, we will ride around. We we have too many stag, and we’ll try to thin them out, Joe. We can’t find them. Like, literally, like, we’ll spend a day. I’m like, hey. Grab the rifle. We’re gonna pull up here, walk this bottom. Can’t find them. There’s 60 of them in there. We hunted them for 4 days this weekend.

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We killed we killed 2. So so 1200 is, I ai,

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It’s much larger than a deer would have in its natural ram.

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Yeah. And Ai, you know, I listen. I mean, we there there are a million ways you can criticize me for having the high fence, But, you know, I have low fences that we we bounce back and forth on the low fences because that’s fun as hell too to not know what’s walking in. But the main thing is is I wanted my boys to have the ability to manage deer and and grow them. And I grew up I love South Texas.

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Big big. I love South Texas deer hunt. Like but I learned at least at least the South Texas place down here. And then I learned having you know young children in my schedule man to go own a south Texas ranch commit that much to a south Texas ranch and get 5 days there what my thing so my my high fence in Tennessee is kind of like my little ode ram my little homage to to my love for South Texas ai.

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So So

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you can keep it close? Keep it close. It’s 55 minutes from the house.

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Oh, that’s nice.

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And it’s a it’s a retreat. I get down there. You know, Starlink has ruined us because now we have Internet. Yeah. But before that, man, you we’d pull in the pull in the holler down there, and you’d have to drive up to the hill to make a phone call. But, oh oh, Elon saved us on that.

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So

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Yeah. The new Starlink’s wild. It’s the size of an like a notebook.

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Well, what was funny is the first time the first time we saw the satellites come over, we were at Elk Camp. And, you know, my nephew, Till, he’s 21, and we’re all liquored up. And my nephew, he goes, guys, I know we’ve been drinking all day, but what in the hell is coming toward us right now?

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And we were ai and then we had one guy in the group was like, goddamn that’s Elon Musk. And we watched it go over, and we were like, wow. What a what a

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It’s amazing. We we used one in Utah for the first time this year. Sai easy to set up set it up in, like, 5 minutes, and then we’re online. YouTube I mean, my wife.

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When I went to elk camp, my wife was like, alright. I’ll I’ll hear you. I’ll see you. I’ll talk to you in 6 days. 1st day, elk camp, set the Starlink out, FaceTime. Hey, baby. How are you?

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It’s crazy. Yeah. My, buddy was, deer hunting recently in South Texas, and he said on 3 different occasions in the week, their deer got bumped by illegals. He said it was crazy. He said illegal aliens just moving through the ranch. He said they they have, you know, a swarm of them every day.

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I hunt South Texas every year, and the ranch we went to last year, at any given moment, you can drive and pick up 50 backpacks. They just that ranch looks like when I and I hadn’t been this ranch was closer to the border than I’ve ever bryden, and there are piles of backpacks and tarps.

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You know, they’ll take tarps and put the tarp out. And they’re do well, they’ll wait in the day, and then they get, you know, they get picked up at ai, typically. But but when they get picked up, they chunk their backpack. And, dude, they I like that that the ranch I was at, they have to have a full time team of people just going around picking up backpacks and keeping

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trash off the ranch. My buddy who has a ranch in South Texas found a dead guy. Found a guy ram out

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of water. Just died on his ranch. It’s heartbreaking because, dude, if anybody dude, I can’t imagine having to walk through that brush to get to freedom. Right. Because when I Not

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knowing where you’re going.

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Not knowing where you’re going and probably you have kids. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, when I leave South Texas, I’m pulling cactuses out of my ass for a month. Yeah. Especially if you do, you know, you go ram you go rattle for them and stuff. Some mannids

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Forget about rattlesnakes. Forget about everything else that’s down there.

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And when water yeah. When you think about, man, you you get your water rations. Yeah. You you miss that?

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Yeah. You could zig when you should have zagged and you’re not gonna run into water, especially down there. And it was in the summer, so, you know, 105 degrees outside. This poor dude just ai, and they found him.

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Well, I every ram every ranch every ranch I’ve went to, the ranch owner, you know, they’re encountering 2 2 deaths a year, 15 to 20. Most of the time, they come up to the the main headquarters needing water, and when they get to you or that’s been my experience with talking to ranch managers down there.

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They’re they’re very you know, they’re not I don’t think they’re there to create any problems. They’re just like, hey. You know,

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we’re Right. We

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need some water

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and The vast majority of them are just trying to get a better life. Get a better life.

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And Yeah.

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And we would be doing it too. Could you imagine if you’re living in a 3rd world country and you had kids and you realize you can get to America and you get a good job and you gotta figure out how to do it? Yeah. I would do it. We would all do it. We would all do it.

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It’s just the the craziness of not knowing where you’re going in South Texas which is so vast. I mean, I think it’s one of those things where people talk about it. It’s almost like talking about space, you know, like, oh, the galaxy is 200,000,000 stars or 200,000,000,000 stars.

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It doesn’t make sense because it’s ai it’s too big for you to understand. If you had to walk through South Texas, it’s South Texas. Texas itself is bigger than, like, multiple countries

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in Europe. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, and even imagine before, like, the oil booms and oil rigs and stuff like now they have a little bit of visual

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Right.

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Lights to walk to.

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Right. Right.

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I mean, man, I couldn’t imagine Yeah. Just striking out.

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Just taking off the chaps.

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Rio Grande and

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Hoping hoping ram maybe you’d gone with someone who went through it before and they have a vague memory of what’s the best way to get to a creek.

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I I don’t know. I mean, Ai you know, we’ve we’ve been there and, you know, the the guys, they they open box blinds. You know, the deer hunting towers and there’s a family sleeping in the box blind. Man, you just gotta you gotta feel so sorry for them. I mean, how bad like, I mean, I thought I mean, dude, I remember when I was 15, 16 years old processing Cubans where it’s so bad that you’re gonna fucking piece together a raft Mhmm.

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And you’re gonna you’re gonna give it a you’re gonna give it a go for Ai.

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Right.

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I remember being 16 going, how bad must that be? How bad must that be?

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Pretty fucking bad.

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Pretty fucking bad.

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Pretty fucking bad. Their their case is a little different because they’re running from a communist dictatorship, and they were like, we got that’s why the most Republican motherfuckers in this country are Cubans. Cubans go hard. They’re ai, we’ve seen we’ve seen what all this socialist horseshit comes down to, and it comes down to government control over every aspect of your life and they they enforce it with violence.

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They enforce it with guns. It’s not as simple as everybody just gives up whatever they have and now everybody has an equal amount. That’s all nonsense. That’s the that’s the hook. But the reality is the government controls everything and you are fucked.

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And they always live in big ass houses, and they eat great food, and everybody else And

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it’s everywhere. It’s from ram Africa to Cuba to That’s way home. African

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Yeah.

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That that whole

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Have you ever hunted in Africa?

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Sai haven’t, but I know I will. I Ai will I can go on this show and say, man, I’m not like a I’m not one of those guys that’s ai thinking about an elephant or lions and all that. I just I love to bow hunt, and I love I’d like plains animals, you know, your your kudus and all that stuff man Ai I you know to build when my boys get a little older and we can do a proper 2 month currently sports and my children have ruined my hunting life or ai sai well because my my boys are sana play all the sports But when when we can get sai I’d love to do them a gap year and let’s go do a a a true safari.

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Yeah.

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And and shah when I say safari, that doesn’t mean I wanna go, like, hunt 60 days. I wanna do, like, your I wanna see the all of the Serengetis and all of the animals and take in the animals for a month and have, like, the the wives and the girls and the girlfriends, and we sit out there and do the safaris.

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But then I sana carve out 2 or 3 days where all the boys go, you know, go get the true, plains game.

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Yeah.

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And I I would love it’s meh I tell you it’s pretty cool story. Ai, my pilot, my lead pilot is South African. And, during COVID, man, he couldn’t his mother was dying, and he couldn’t get down there to tell his mother ai. And at this point, I just I just kinda got to know AJ. And, man, I’ve always heard that South Africans are pretty badass dudes.

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And at the time, I was learning that AJ is a pretty badass dude. I didn’t all altogether know it, but well, he caught he he got with me and he goes, Luke, man, it’s still I cannot get into South Africa. It may have been his mother or his wife’s mother, but I called some local guys, some local congress guys in Tennessee, and we they granted him permission to, get down there, and they got to tell, either his wife’s mother, bye.

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Well, he comes back and he’s like, Luke, I now owe you a Cape buffalo. And I was like, what? He goes, my family has a big ranch. We’re overrun with Cape buffalo, and you now have one of my Cape Buffalo. So, dude, he is gonna fly me down there, and I’m like and that’s just ai the way he’s he’s he’s wired, but, you know, he’s gonna help us with some safari stuff.

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Don’t they call them the Black Death?

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Yeah. Now they are bad. Yeah. You you don’t just go running up to them Yeah. Like with with your not your shit together. That’s a big animal.

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01:09:42

Vatsal like a 1800 pound animal. Right?

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Maybe bigger and ai all muscle.

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So Cam and Adam Greentree, they went up to, Australia. You know, Australia has, like, an infestation of Asian buffalo. They have, I forget which type of buffalo it is, but, invasive. So someone introduced it like all the animals in Australia. A lot of the mammals were introduced, and they have no natural predators. So they have these buffalo up there everywhere.

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Cam said he shot 1, and he they, you know, they went up there with no food, and they went up there to live off the land. They’re drinking out of fucking crocodile lakes, like, literally bathing in that shit, filtering water, filtering water, eating whatever fish they caught.

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It’s Cam’s new version of pushing himself. Now he’s gonna now he’s gonna

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I think it was Adam’s idea.

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Oh, I gotcha.

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He’s a psycho too. So the the both of them are perfect together. So he said he had one piece of buffalo in his mouth for half an hour just chewing on it. He said that’s how tough they are. He said it took forever to eat that thing.

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The true form of, like, yeah, no, that’s even a whole another level of of true organics when it takes you

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Oh, yeah.

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You know, when your jerky’s jerky right out of the right out

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of the, you know, right in the field. But Yeah. Well, there’s no dry aged buffalo Yeah. Out there. No. That’s a You can

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say Ai was a taste of it. I mean because most plains animals in Africa, historically, they say are far beyond our plains animals as far as the meh. Ai, your kudos and your, I mean, your I’m drawing a blank on all the plains games. And and ai I said, this is stuff that I’m, like, totally elementary in because I don’t I just don’t know much about that whole African thing.

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It seems like the things that the big cats sana eat are all delicious. Right. Yeah. Like, Ai showed a pomelo guy.

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A nil nil ago. Yeah.

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Yeah. And tigers eat them. Right. Did you

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ever eat the nil? Yeah. It’s delicious. And the the meat is ai an even more vivid a more vivid red, color to it than even our, you know, our elk and stuff.

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Well, it’s all delicious. Ai favorite is still elk, but the another one is axis deer. They they get hunted by tigers, and they’re some of the best tasting animals alive. Axis deer are delicious. Well, I think I think cats are smart just like bears are smart too. Salmon’s delicious.

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Sai there and pick them off.

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They know what they’re doing.

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Well, have you done Africa? Are you No. You sana do it?

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I would like to. I’d like to go over to Africa

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just to

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see it.

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You you really got it. Ram, was he kind of your catalyst? And God Ai mean you it’s like you had it’s like you had Michael Jordan teach you how to shoot free throws. Yeah. It’s so fun though. But you know even with God Ai tell you man I dove hard into duck hunting and you talk about you talk about Ai mean learning to blow a duck call and when you think you know how to blow a duck call and you get next to somebody that blows a duck call and you blow yours and the room starts laughing at you ai like ridicule, like take your duck call off and put it in your bedroom and leave it when we go hunting.

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And I’m like, dude, I’ve been working on this fucking thing for 4 years. And they’re ai, and it’s so funny, but

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It’s like elk bugles. Yeah. Someone who sucks at bugling, like, you hear me like, what the fuck is that?

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I mean, it’s like you walking in with a with a tutu on. Yeah.

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Ai love duck hunting too. I’ve never done it, but I love the idea because you’re sneaking. You’re hiding. You got fake ducks. You got the whole deal. Sai listen. I meh have ducks that even have, like, floppy wings.

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We got listen, man. Let me tell you something. Dude, I got given a chocolate lab about 8 years ago. And here comes this wormy ass chocolate lab into my home, you know, scrawny. And since then, oh ai god. That damn animal has thrust me into duck hunting just so I could take him duck hunting.

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And, man, it is

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That sounds like the same excuse you used with

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the kids. Ai, my kid.

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Yeah. I have to go for the dog.

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Yeah. For the dog. The dog

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needs some duck hunting,

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that’s why. And my wife is this dog, meh, this dog can open every drawer in our house. He can open Frito Lay’s with his speak can smack Frito Lay’s open and eat them. He can he can he is he’s he’s pushed a porcelain pound cake a pound cake on a porcelain island off onto the floor ate the pound cake and the porcelain dish and like x-ray 100 shards of porcelain in his stomach the vet’s like put that out in the yard because there’s and if he makes it if he lives call me back he lived and now Ai have duck hunting properties and my boy, you know, so and we’re in the house blowing duck calls.

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My wife’s like, you know I mean, my wife’s like ai for 4 boys in the house, all of them blowing duck calls. She’s like, man, one day yeah.

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So do you have one of them setups where you’re, like, hiding in one of those shacks

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that’s underground? We have, we have elevated blinds that are brushed in and some brush, and then we have pit blinds that are, you know, when you get down in a pit meh ai it up. Yeah. You’re right along

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the water level

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and then you know we have, you know there’s experiences where you wade in the woods and they they come down in the woods and and meh it’s just and and it’s the thing I’m getting the thing that really makes duck hunting kind of like when you’re in a blind with your with your let’s just say you got your buddies from way back and there’s 5 of you and you’re sitting there smoking cigars and you know you’re you’re you’re in the blind together and you’re it’s very social too drinking coffee it’s you know 15 degrees coffee cigar you know and everybody’s like shut shut shut shut shut shut shut up shut up and you work the ducks They light in front of you. You kill them. Dog gets them, brings the duck back.

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You look at the duck and you’re just ai, just have big old toke on your cigar and you’re like, yep. This is

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pretty good shit right here.

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Are you

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good at cooking them?

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Yeah meh you know the thing about it when you do you know your grain ducks your ducks that feed on your rice and your and your your corn you know you ai a tyler duck that eats essentially minnows yeah you know that you don’t want to eat that but and geese geese are you ai somebody that can cook a goose you know the story about how to cook a goose

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no where you get a big pot

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and you put your you put a you put a bunch of water and then you put a concrete cinder block in there and you boil the goose and you pull the goose out and eat the cinder block. But not some people can make,

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well, I thought goose was

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like a speckled goose. Speak speckled bellies are good. But ai a mallard and a wood duck, oh, meh. A wood duck with jalapeno and cheese and bacon wrap, which nothing nothing’s bad when you do that.

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But My friend, Jesse Griffiths, he runs this restaurant out here called Ai Due. Is it? It’s fantastic. And he serves a lot of wild game. And Jesse came on this hunt with us with Steve Ranella down in South Texas. And Jesse cooked some ai duck. And Was it good? It was fantastic.

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Whoever the hell Jesse is He’s a wizard.

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Is is a well, that’s great.

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He’s a real chef. Well, that

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so so Ryan Seacrest, he’s like, hey, man.

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Ryan Seacrest, the radio guy?

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My guy. Yeah. The at at Meh Idol. And, Seacrest goes, hey. I’ve got you need a light? Yeah. He goes, dude, I booked this at EMP 11 Madison Park. Number 1 at the ai, number 1 restaurant in downtown. You know? Adam was, Ryan was taking me and Katie and Lionel to dinner, and I’ve never been to a the certainly the number one restaurant in the world.

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Well, they take us tour of the kitchen. And, dude, they have ducts, walls, because all of your your French cuisine, the really the centerpiece is duck. That’s like the Duck fat. The ducks are the the real big part of Foie. French cuisine.

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Well, dude, I see these I see all these ducks, and I’m like, what are y’all doing here? He goes, man, we’re aging them. So they get these now they’re getting probably there. They’re getting farm raised, organically grown ducks, and they age them with with the guts in them.

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Yeah. I’ve heard of

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that. I’ve heard

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people do that with, like, pheasants too. You hang them by

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their neck. The enzymes of the guts pull stuff out of the meat.

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Well, it adds a flavor to it apparently.

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And, dude, man, I ai But it sketches me out. Yeah. Well, here’s the tricky part because, dude, I I don’t even know if I enjoyed my meal because I I picked the chef’s brain because I wanted to figure out a way to take my mallards and all my ducks I killed and age them properly.

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But what you do gotta worry about is when you shoot them, you know, you’re putting you know, you’re shooting. It’s the guts are going Right. Through kinda in the meat a little bit. So ai gets a little shoot them.

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Ai. Yeah. Right. So that’s different than a

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rye jam one. Good where I all head shah them yet. But

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No. When when these guys are aging them, what’s the temperature in the room?

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I think it’s I think it’s like a a, you know, just above they’re not freezing them. I think it’s however you would dry age a cow. Sai, like, 40 degrees? Probably 40 degrees in 13, 15 days with the guts in them. And then Wow.

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15 days with the guts in them. I’ve heard that people hang their pheasants until their their heads fall off, and that’s when they that’s when they cut them up. Ai figured that out? Ai, who was the bold bastard

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It’s the guy that ate the 15 day old that ate the first oyster. Right?

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You know? Drink out of the puddle.

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Right. Yeah and you know it is fascinating in pheasant and when you look at pheasant and quail and chuckers and you know Hungarian Partridge now you’re talking about the you’re talking about the end all of of wild game in my opinion the top of the

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That’s what you like the most?

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Well, I think when you look at the pheasants, you know, they’re you know, they call them prairie chickens, and they’re beautiful. The meat’s a little wider and less gamier. So,

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have you had sandhill crane?

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Yes. Ribeye of the sky.

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I have it, but it’s crazy to look at it. It does look like steak. It’s a red meat, a deep red meat, and it’s a bird.

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And, you know, they’re, they’re wild little creatures too, man. You know, when you when you take your lab sandhill crane hunting, you gotta you gotta fit them with goggles.

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Because of poker right now?

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Yeah. Woah. And then, we I I I just got in a golf course property down in Florida, and, we sold our beach house, and then we’re ai of migrating to this place. And I fly down to tour the property, and I’m like, dude, what are what are what are y’all doing with all these sandhill cranes?

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And they’re like, what do you mean? This is like a golf course guy. Right. And I said, dude, that’s the rib eye of the sky, bro. He’s like, he looked it up, and I’ll you can’t shoot sandhill cranes in Florida.

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What?

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Ai, they are

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Somebody call the governor. Everywhere. Really?

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Everywhere on this property.

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You can’t shoot sandhill cranes in Florida, but you can shoot alligators?

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Sai unless they’re lying to me because they’re scared, I’m gonna go, like, I’m gonna, like, you know, have a psychotic episode and go running out through the golf course with the with the guns.

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Maybe it’s just the area where you’re at you could choose They

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may be protected in certain counties. But, you know, even in Tennessee, Florida Center, protected under the federal

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protected under federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

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Look at that shit.

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Wow. State rule shah blah blah. Intentional feeding of sandhill cranes is prohibited. So you can’t Ai. The protection

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Well, in Tennessee, we have, in Tennessee, there’s a couple ai that guide them, and I think it’s a draw tag. You can draw you could put in to draw a sandhill crane tag, and then, man, they make a they make a very distinct, something like that. And, dude, you can hear them, and I’ll hear them coming over my farm.

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And, god, if if that’s the wrong noise I just made, I’m gonna get a

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Sounds good.

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Ai gonna You got it?

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Woah.

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I love this guy. I need me one of that’s him. Wow. Now that’s all of them. That yeah. That’s you hear that? Yeah.

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What a fucking cool animal. They sound like something from Avatar.

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See those beaks? Yeah. Those are Labrador blind Labrador retriever blinders right there.

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How how do you fasten the goggles on a dog?

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Meh. Oh god. Here he goes. Oh my gosh. This is like Maybe you’ll find it. Sandhill Crane goggles for labs. This is gonna be great.

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Does it how does it secure on? I’m thinking about a dog’s face.

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It’s a I guess you’ve seen those dogs in those side cars on the,

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Motorcycles? On

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the motorcycles. Probably probably that that rig. But,

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I

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mean, I

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Google something about that. I don’t think that’s the same. Yeah. That’s that’s like a

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that’s an aspen. That’s 2 dogs being silly. Yeah. Yeah. But, the meh. So in Tennessee, you you can hire a guy, and he’ll take you, and they’ll kinda get them coming in an area. And I think you can

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There you go. Oh, there it goes. There you go. Oh, wow. That’s crazy.

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Now those look like I think those are snow geese. Snow geese are

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probably the same. Look at their goggles all scratched up too.

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Crane hunt. No. Those arya, yeah, those are Sandhills.

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Wow. That’s crazy. Dogs need to have their eyes protected.

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01:24:00

Meh. So when you when you get yeah. Well, you got your bryden. Mhmm. But, man, if you get you a lab and, oh, man, beware of that because you will get hooked. You’ll you’ll start.

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I’m sure I would be. Also, I love duck. Duck’s delicious.

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Oh, on the grill, meh in a marinated properly for a day or 2, playing on it.

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That’s what Jesse does. That’s the difference from that’s what he does the diver duck. I’m telling you, this diver duck was sensational.

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Well, but when that and that’s the that’s what you gotta watch in all wild game is, meh, plan it. Preparation. Get it marinated and and and, man, you you just can’t beat it.

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Yeah. You gotta know what you’re cooking, how to cook it, especially if you you’re cooking something that has low body fat. You gotta make sure you cook it nice

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and slow. Right.

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You know, That’s one of the great things about things like a Traeger. And you could just set it for 265. Best thing in the world. Leave it. The new one’s fantastic too. It just everything comes out so smoky and delicious.

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If you know me, my dad, 4th Ai, he was I think he was drunk and hated us on 4th July because he stayed up smoking the Boston butt every night. Uh-huh. You know, I remember my dad, man. He he had that old Shah Broil out there, and he’d get up with his vinegar and all this shit.

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And he would wake up all ai, night before 4th, and smoke them butts, man. And now you just walk out, put that thing on 2:20 at about 8 PM, wake up at wake up at ram. And

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The app tells you if you’re low on pellets.

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I know.

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01:25:28

It’s like,

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what are we doing here?

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01:25:30

It’s crazy. It’s so much easier. There’s something that men are attracted to, like, cooking over wood, though. Like, an actual fire Ai

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we’re trying the heart of it in in Texas. You know, right here, I mean, these guys take a damn you know, they

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01:25:44

they Propane tanks.

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They glue 4 propane tanks together and have a smoke speak. And the guy that what’s our guy that does our charity event? Oh, ai god. I can’t believe him. I’ll I’ll come up with him. But Mark text meh, Meat Church. Have you met the Meat Church dude?

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I’ve met that dude. Yeah.

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Yeah. He comes and

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because he had some awesome rubs.

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He’s got all that, but then what’s funny is, yeah, he pulled up to our charity event with his big smoker, and, man, I’m like, this is like Elon Musk style engineering on this thing. It’s pretty you know and man you know they get out there and yeah they’ll look at me and you doing traegers and we’re that’s about like us That’s our version of having a tutu on.

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It is funny because people wanna do it all themselves, the offset smokers. Like, have you ever gone to Terry Black’s here and see the lines of the offset smokers? Terry Black’s is the number one barbecue place in the country, probably in the world. They cook more volume of barbecue than anywhere else on the country, and they have just line after line of these giant propane tank smokers with briskets, beef ribs, and spare ribs.

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See, when I when I moved to Nashville, being a South Georgia boy, I’d never even heard of brisk. Really? We there was we only knew pork barbecue. And it’s just so when I moved to Nashville and then, like, there’s some dude there with a Texas brisket restaurant in Nashville.

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I’m like, what are they talking about brisket? And this was 2,001 Ai moved to Nashville. This is how insulated you could be in your own you know, as we talk about the ways of the world changing. I mean, it’s like, dude, I lived in a section and and everybody, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, we they didn’t brisket was like

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I think brisket was originally a German thing. I think it’s like with the sausages, like, there was cuts of the meat. Well, the the smoker thing came certainly from German immigrants that came to Texas. That’s where the the origin of the barbecue out here is. And

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then the the whole

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And then the brisket was ai cuts that nobody else wanted.

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Right.

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Right? So they figured out a way to take these cuts that nobody else wanted and turn them into something delicious. They just had to do it over time, and now it’s like a preferred cut. You know, if you go to Terry Black’s, the the brisket’s sensational.

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01:28:03

And they’re probably cooking, yeah, the preferred cuts of, like, which cut of the brisket would you ai? Not the not the old flank meat down there. You know? Probably you can probably get the rib eye and all that.

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I think it’s all just how long you cook it for. Yeah. How do you how you do it, what temperature, And they they wrap it, and then they unwrap it, and they spray it. Like, they have it down to a science. And then at the end, it’s ai the the the key is you wanna be able to fold it over your finger and not have it break apart.

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Just get it to just where it folds over.

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See, our deal was just always smoke a big pig, you know, smoke a pig. Mhmm. You know you know, not not the not the ones big as this table, but, you know, about about that long.

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01:28:42

100 pounder. Yeah. Yeah.

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And walk up there on the family reunion, and all the women were grossed out because, you know, you’re just pulling the the big pig, you know, the big you know, you can pull that meat off a pig. It’s like that. So, god, we’re getting hungry, Joe.

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I know. That’s the the good thing about wild pigs too. Sai they’re always available to hunt. Like, the one of the great things about Texas. It’s it’s not good if you’re on a ranch or if you have a farm, but if you’re a person who wants to hunt, you can hunt wild pigs for ai days a year and always have sausage.

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01:29:13

Our place and, me and my best friend, we’ve got a, like, a quail hunting place in down in the heart of South Georgia. Tons of swamps. Dude, we were which you know all the math, and I’m sure you’ve brought it up on, how many, sai pigs will you know, they’ll kick off 30 30 pigs a year annually.

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They can. Yeah.

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And then we would have we would have them roll through our front front yard, $30,000 damage a night. Yeah. And the most and for anybody out there listening, if you have this going on, we mounted, we mounted lights in all the trees around our whole lodge. And you flip them lights on and we hadn’t had one wild hog root up our yard since. Really? They will not come around those lights.

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They don’t they it’s a great tactic.

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That’s interesting.

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Yeah. And when somebody told him, you know, some good old boy told him, and he was like, man, we’ll try anything because you would walk out there and it looked like 300 land ai went off. And the night before, our our yard looked like Augusta.

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Yeah. It’s crazy, isn’t it?

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I mean, they’re they’re bad little dudes now.

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They do a lot of damage. I mean, in Texas alone, it’s 1,000,000 and 1,000,000 of dollars of damage of crops every year. They shoot them out of helicopters here. You ever seen you ever done any of that? Have you? It is. Man, it is. It’s the most unfair type of hunting that’s ever existed.

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Man, if Forget about how

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to I don’t know, you know, my children. I took my boys. And somewhere there’s a, you know, I hope he doesn’t hear it, but there’s a Navy Speak Marine recruiter because my sons are ready for warfare after doing that. I’m like but, you know, my the guy that we took, you know, he’s got a big beautiful high fence.

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And, you know, you get if you fly around and, man, you can you know, he’s he has to thin them out every year.

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Yeah. You have to.

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But it’s so fun doing it out of a helicopter. You don’t sana thin them all out because you just keep wanting to, you know, keep wanting to do vatsal

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little bit.

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But, but, it’s sai you hadn’t done that yet?

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01:31:25

No. No. I’m still I just mostly bow hunt them.

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Well, you know, the our our our pick stuff in in Georgia, meh, it’s fun because you can go on a deer hunt, shoot some deer with a bow, and then we’ll take a rifle. And and late in the evening, the hogs will come out. And, you know Ai know

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01:31:48

a lot of guys shoot them at at ai too. Yeah. Yeah.

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And then we thermals. We have guys with the big, you know, with the big, you know, trap doors that trap them and stuff like that. So, Ai mean they’re they’re they’re probably the number one you know wildlife Ai never will forget you know right when like maybe iPhones come out and you get your iPhone news updates and then I never even knew what the magazine like the New Yorker was or like the Guardian and all those things.

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Well, the New Yorker, I’m scrolling through and I see feral pigs and it was this huge article done by a guy maybe the editor of the New Yorker meh he did a great job with that article and just went through and this was 15 years ago Ai read that article about you know the feral hog problems and you know you would think Ai would I don’t know Ai would think the New Yorker leans quite leans quite left but the fact that this guy wrote the article from a perspective of huge problem need to be need to be dealt with was pretty, pretty badass take on it.

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So But once people see the sheer numbers, they’re so overwhelming that you go, wait a minute. How how are you gonna stop this? How are you gonna stop it from multiplying continually every year? Well, you’re not. You’re not. There’s places that you’re not gonna get

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to that. Well, it wasn’t. In Georgia and these these swampy deals, you can’t, you know, you can’t you can’t helicopter them there. So that’s when that’s when you get these old boys with their with their dogs and they run off and run off and

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vatsal help but even then

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sai here’s another thing you think about this so when I start meh high fence the year that I the year that I started it our turkey population in Tennessee, which it’s it’s been going through hail, and you’ll hear this. The turkey population in Tennessee was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen. I mean, eastern turkey hunting.

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One of the most beautiful things in the wildlife that the state of Tennessee has, and and my turkey population was ai is amazing and still is, but we hired a guy and he put a 110 traps out. A 110. And night 1 had a 100 over a 100 varmints. Coons, possums, armadillos, and the traps ai 1.

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So they’re just killing all the turkeys?

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They eat the eggs. Yeah. You know, they’re, you know, a turkey lays 12 to 14 eggs. Now listen, I found this out this year. This is going I hope if I can get a couple nuggets that you hadn’t learned yet, that’s ai of the goal for the day. So and turkey does not lay their eggs all at the same time.

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Really?

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They lay their eggs one day at a time. They lay it next to a water source. They go to the water source, hold the water in their mouth, drip the water on the eggs periodically using the water to hatch them at the same ai. Because a hen turkey, if she had to hatch, all the eggs hatch at the same time.

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But if she had to hatch them for 12 days, she could never keep them corralled properly.

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Oh.

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So she manipulates with water. And if I’m wrong now this is a biologist that told me this. No. I heard this this year. Totally blew my mind. So in the nest, and I’ve walked up on them. They got 12 or 13 of them sitting there beautifully. And whatever that hen does, she manages those eggs to hatch at the same time. Wow.

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And maybe maybe, now ai a tortoise, I guess, or a beach turtle or whatever. You know? I think they they spit them all out that ai, but a hen a hen turkey does not. Well, so one armadillo rolls by that nest.

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That’s a wrap.

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That’s a wrap. She just lost them all. And, so there was a big study that went on in Tennessee about the decline of the turkey population.

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So what do they do about that? They

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they Well, first of all, Well, you you know, well, trapping now is so rare. You know, trapping the art of trapping has gone down quite a bit, and the arm of the the the, oh, and I’m not even bringing up coyotes in Tennessee. But sai, yeah, if if you can if they can loosen up, Tennessee can loosen up their trapping laws and make it more available, and and, you just gotta thin out those, you know, armadillos in Tennessee, you would have never, meh, we woke up, and we can ride around and shoot 30 a night.

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Really? Armadillos 30 on a on a

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Don’t they carry, like, crazy

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Man, I I wouldn’t recommend touching them. You know? They they, you know, they say they do, but that that’s that maple eat them? Ai never heard of that, but Ai you probably can find some

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They definitely eat raccoons.

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They definitely eat raccoons and definitely I don’t know about possums, but if you if you’re eating a possum, you’re you’re you’re ass is hungry.

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You’re very hungry.

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But, raccoons, I mean, yeah, in Georgia where we grew up had had several old timers, man. They’d get a raccoon, and it was always a kind of a party deal. And you know What

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does raccoon taste like?

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I never had. I never well, we got an old buddy down there. He’s like, you know what bald eagle tastes like? Al.

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So I

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guess you could say raccoon. You know, I had a buddy of mine tell a game bryden that joke. It didn’t go over well. So but,

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there’s a lot of shit that people eat that people would go, what?

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Yeah. I mean, when you’re talking about yeah. I Ai saw somebody do what do the pig deal with a full gator.

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Oh, I’ve seen that before.

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And I hadn’t done that. I’ve had gator tail, but I ai to have

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a giant smoker and put a gator

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in there. Whole thing on. Yeah. And they skin, you know, skin it and and all that. Put an

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apple in its mouth. Yeah.

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You you know what’s crazy in Georgia? There’s a there’s a place rural. Sai all the chicken farms down there, huge chicken farms, all of them. Well, what do you do with the chicken carcasses? Well, I mean, there’s a lot. They used to grind them up and feed them back to chickens, but some of them are meh well, they feed them to gator farms. Oh, wow.

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They put them in a put them in a, a limb a limb shredder. Oh, wow. Now you talk about the most foul smell on the planet. Go into a gator farm warehouse. Joe, buddy?

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Just rot.

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Nothing can replicate. Maybe the Sarstromen challenge can meh you know the the the whole Sarstromen joke thing. But what’s that? You’ve seen where the guys pop the lid on the, the Swedish fish? No. Oh, Joe. Sir Straumann?

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What is it?

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Oh, we did it at our at our deer camp. It’s like an aged Swedish fish that’s rotten in a can. It’s aged? For years, like a sardine. And sai, yeah, the Sarstromin Challenge.

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I believe this guy’s face.

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Dude, we popped that thing.

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So people fish with them. They use it for

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bait, ai, for a catfish or something. People eat that. Oh, foul. And if you can stay

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in the room with it have you tried it?

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Dude, no one Ai no. I was outside 15 yards from it throwing up in the flower bed.

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Alright. We gotta order some, Jamie. Order some.

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I’m glad I didn’t get you,

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01:39:40

I might eat it on fight companion. But, well, Denver’s on So, yeah, ai on the verge of passing a no furlough. So if Denver passes a no fur law, what are they gonna do about cowboy hats that have beaver skin lining? And then if you’re gonna say no fur, how are you gonna say no fur, but you’re allowing leather?

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So skin is okay as long as you take the furry part off. Is the furry part what’s offensive? You know, I’m a if you you know what you’d fucking the the chaos that would ensue if you outlawed leather? Everybody’s belt is illegal, everybody’s shoes are illegal, Air Jordans are illegal.

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Calling it illegal. Illegal.

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Yeah. They’re trying to pass a law. They’re trying to pass a law where they ban fur.

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Sorry. No worries.

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They’ve done it before. I mean, they’ve done

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it in other places. Is it like I said, where does it Joe, I’m at with America. Keeps going.

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That’s the problem. When I’m

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at American, it never

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fucking ends.

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When I’m vatsal no. It never

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It’s never gonna end. They’re gonna keep pushing. What it’ll get to, you can’t eat meat. It’ll get to, it has to be lab grown meat. It’ll get to it’ll it could get as crazy as you could ever imagine. There’s animal rights people that would like to push in that direction. And you would have never thought this would be possible, but you would have never thought that you would have biological males competing against females in high school sports, and that’s everywhere.

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And if you complain against that, you’re a bigot. You’re seeing the craziest of crazy thinking. There’s people that think that pedophiles are minor attracted persons, and they’ll they’ll talk about this as university professors teaching classes. It’s been recorded. People have seen it.

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It’s not everywhere, but it’s enough where you go. I see where this goes if it keeps going because none of this shit existed 20 years ago. You go back to 2004, there was none of this shit. Nothing. A transgender person was a rare person with gender dysphoria.

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It was very rare, and there wasn’t a lot of hatred towards those people. It wasn’t a thing that people worried about. Now there is, because everybody’s ai, what the fuck? Why is this in schools? Why are you having them?

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There was a recent pool tournament where it was a woman’s pool tournament in the semifinals. It’s 2 trans trans women competing against each other. 2 meh, 2 biological men that wear lipstick competing against each other in a women’s tournament. It’s fucking crazy. So I would have never thought that would be possible.

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So it can get to the point where

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there’s ai meat. It can get to the point where meat there’s this demonization of meat. You keep hearing about it all the time. Meat is the number one source of carbon. It’s fucking complete total horseshit. It’s not even number 2. It’s not number 3. It’s not even fucking close.

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Cow farts.

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Yeah. It’s the dumbest shit ever. And, by the way, all of that is factory farming. Regenerative farming is actually carbon vatsal. If it doesn’t if they don’t sequester carbon, it’s actually good for carbon. There’s a whole reason why there’s a there’s a balanced ecosystem of cows eating grass and the grass fermenting in their stomach and then creating manure and that That regenerates.

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Regenerates. It’s carbon neutral. It’s actually good for the environment and everything feeds off everything. There’s a system that nature has evolved for 1000000 of years. That’s that’s the normal way it’s supposed to be bryden. And, you know, we’re just living in a crazy time.

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Yeah. When you think of Denver and Colorado and the outdoors, man, you gotta appreciate everybody’s opinion of, you know, you know, the the growth you know, I mean, the the it’s a it’s a sai so old term, the granolaist.

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Yeah.

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But it ain’t granola no more. I mean, it’s it’s it’s They meh

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a lot further than granola. Granola used to be normal until they they see, the thing is those people were weird and rare and they were tyler, but then they got online and sai if there’s only 10 of them in this town and 5 of them in that town, well, then now there’s 100 of thousands of them collectively in the country all as a group, and then they think that they’re activists.

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So they they think that they’re doing something good. So then they start saying things ai, no fur in Colorado. Pass this bill. And you start saying no meat. No more meat. No one should have meat. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. What are you gonna do with these cows? What are you gonna do?

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You sana go around castrating all those bulls? What are you gonna do? How are you gonna control the populations? Are you gonna let them go extinct? You sana castrate all the bulls? Are you gonna let some of them breed? How are you gonna make this distinction? Are you gonna bring in wolves to handle them?

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What are you gonna do? What the fuck are you gonna do?

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What are you gonna

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do with all those people that work at the butcher shop? What are you gonna do with all those people that work at the meat processing plant? What are you gonna do with all those people that have been transporting meat back and forth? What do you do with all those jobs, all those families, all their income, all their businesses that they’ve had for a 100 fucking years?

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What are you gonna do with that? These people have, like, the most minimal understanding of the system they’re trying to influence. They they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing by releasing wolves. They think wolves are beautiful. Yay. Did you see the governor? Is releasing the wolves. He’s like, yay.

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He ai so happy.

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Yeah. They’re gonna be saying yay when they’re when they’re ram I don’t know, dude. The whole

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The dogs are getting eaten. Dog. Everything. Yeah.

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Dude, let me tell you something.

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Well, no. Yeah. They brought in wolves that had a history of killing cattle. The wolves they brought into Colorado

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than the grizzly focusing on the on humans. And, man, we I live just south of Nashville. We got a 180 acres. I’ve got neighborhoods all around us, man. About every ai and then, email goes out. Little Fluffy’s gone. Coyotes? We put 6 coyote traps out on my farm ai night, 6 for 6. Wow.

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And let me tell you what else is a little vicious son of a bitch, a fucking otter.

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Oh, yeah. Otters will fuck you up. Let me tell you, buddy.

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Those things are I mean, Joe, I ram so like, I mean, I we like I said, my my brain is bass fishing and all this stuff. Man, we’ll have otters come up into my bass saloni.

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And fuck those bass up.

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I’m talking about they’re fucking gone, the fish, in 3 nights. The fish are gone. And the otters eat 1 and play with the other ones that they kill. Wow. And, like, you go by my lake. Like, I have a all female bass lake at my house, which you’re gonna this is a whole another fun deal.

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They will roll through there and eat my all females and just throw them up on the bank. There’s carcasses or

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01:46:17

Like, how many?

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Oh, you get 4 otters in your pond on a 17 acre lake, they’ll eat 20 bass a night. And you the problem is you don’t know you’ve been got

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ai it’s too late.

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Till you’ve been got. Wow. And so, Joe, a to grow a £10 bass is about $3,000. And think about it. I’ve been loving on these damn fish. I’ve been walking out there making sure they’re happy sai we can all catch them and yeah. Look at them. Damn them. And then my otters roll.

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So they’ll if you have an overflow, a spillway on your farm, and it runs through your farm and dumps into a major river body of water, and that otter swims by that water, dumping in that river, he is up that river. He’s up that spillway into your lake, and he is he has gotcha. Wow. And we’ll put traps out, dude. And, man, they just keep coming. Wow. Keep coming.

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And I’m talking about otter pelts. I mean, ai, the prettiest thing you’ve ever seen.

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So do you turn them into coats or anything? You

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I mean, we’ve got enough where, you know, we can we’ve got them scanned out in freezers and rolled up in our freezers and my my farm guys I mean, I think they’re but, you know, the sad part is there the market for that should be an amazing arya, but I don’t I don’t I think because everybody’s scared to say they got a damn otter pelt. Yeah.

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You know, but

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Yeah. Fur it’s fur’s got a bad name. If it’s got hair on it, leather’s fine. None of it’s fine. But leather’s fine with people. No one has a problem with you wearing cowboy boots. Nobody gets mad. Yeah. See? Leather. Nobody gets mad at leather.

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01:48:05

All that is is fur with no with no fucking hair on it. It’s the same thing. It’s weird.

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But damn otters, meh, them little rascals, you know, they I got I’m building a lake at my place in Georgia, and it’s right on the Flint River.

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01:48:20

Running wildlife management.

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I love, man. It’s it’s so fun. It’s so damn fun. Like, it’s it’s 4 hours of my day.

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And it also cleanses your mind. Right? Totally. It is. Hunting.

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It’s totally and it is not for myself. You can’t my enjoyment is to watch the kid my my buddies my my children’s friends come enjoy it too. You know, my my ai sons will bring a buddy home from school, and next thing you know, Tate and his 13 year old buddy are shooting bows in the front yard all weekend.

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And this kid, who doesn’t have a dad that hunts or has the ability, next thing you know, we I got one kid, my my Tate’s buddy, James, his 8th consecutive weekend at my house hunting. Just loving ai, shooting bow and arrows.

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Did you show ai how to shoot correctly?

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Got vatsal. Got him dialed in. He shot his first doe this weekend. Nice. Just so fun. And so so, you know, when you meet these guys that they don’t let anybody else enjoy it, I don’t like those guys either.

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Yeah.

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And and, you know, I love to I love to enjoy it with people, but, yeah, the bass fishing thing’s a blast. But my my lake in in Georgia, it’s sana be about 35 acres, and I think we’ll do an all female lake down there.

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01:49:43

Why all female?

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So That

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way they can bryden.

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01:49:46

Your females are your trophy bass. Right. The big fat ones. The big fat ones.

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01:49:50

But don’t they have to get pregnant to be really big

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and fat? You put them in and if you don’t they don’t have to be bryden, but they just have to have the big eggs and when they lay them they just have to have ai male not fertilize.

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That’s right.

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Of course. So if you get a male in there, then the male then you have a natural thriving

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01:50:12

He’ll eat the babies too though. Right?

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The a male a bass will forage on themselves.

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01:50:17

Yeah.

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And but male bass now I have 3 lakes that are naturally their own ecosystem where we have to you know I’ve got an 82 acre bass lake that we have to catch ai £100 of bass a year just to keep them from not choking themselves out. Really? Oh, yeah.

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01:50:39

It’s 35 ai. Sai how what do you do? Just call your friends?

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Dude, we have bass roundups, and we get out there, and we catch them, and we’ll load up coolers and take them into the little towns and give them you know, we have give them to people, and, I mean, it becomes a problem.

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01:50:54

It’s a weird thing with largemouth bass too because a lot of people don’t eat them, and yet they’re delicious.

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They’re good. They’re great. They’re great.

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01:51:00

They’re basically the same as bluegills. Well, bluegills

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bluegills, you know, ai, all the bluegills at my lake are we feed them pellet food sai they’ll get big. So the bass will eat them. So the bass will get big. And you don’t want to go eat a bluegill that’s been parked under a pellet.

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01:51:19

Yeah. But

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a little wild bluegill stream or a little natural creek where I grew up in Georgia like shell crackers and bluegill that eat like a cricket or

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01:51:32

that

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are eating live stuff, you fillet one of them real small creek or river bluegills and eat them up. Oh, nothing better in the world. Yeah.

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01:51:41

And then bass is similar to that.

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Oh, bass. If you ai flaky white meh. Flaky white meh, get you a 3 or 4 pound bass, fillet it like a red snapper.

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01:51:50

But people like catching them so meh, they want you to release them.

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We we spent our whole life my dad would catch bass. We would fillet them. He’d put them in a Ai dish saute them bake them and then broil them on top and we’d eat bad we’d eat largemouth bass you know You could either have salmon croquettes that stink up the whole house, you know, or you knew your mama was cooking them, or you can have fresh bass.

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You know? So we we grew up.

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01:52:19

But isn’t it a weird animal or weird fish rather that a lot of people don’t eat, but it’s good

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to eat? You know, you wouldn’t want you wouldn’t want your you wouldn’t want everybody fish fishing your big reservoirs. Like, Texas is the best big Bass Lake reservoir state Right. In the country. You wouldn’t want everybody out there keeping them. You know, you sana practice you wanna practice catch and release on your big public reservoirs.

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01:52:43

Right.

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But, you know, when you’ve got a private impoundment where, you know, you know, you you’d want you you wanna you wanna keep your bass because your your bass, you’ll wake up. Let’s just let’s just say you’ve got a nice brand new bass ai you built, 10 acres. You stock it. You you spend $50 to put your bluegill, your your all your fish in there. Well, you know, then you just don’t ever catch them.

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Within ai years, you’ve lost it. Right. You have to manage it. Yeah. You you’re done. Your lake’s done.

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Your your your your 3 pound bass didn’t have enough fish to get to £4 and then he missed a year growing or she missed a year growing. And then you just put a $50,000 investment in your bass lake, and then you’re out. Right. You might as well drain it, start over.

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You know what I’d really like to do? Get a place in the north and have a a lake with pike in it. I think they might be my favorite thing to catch because they’re so ruthless. That’s such a ruthless fish. Shah animal. Fucking dinosaur.

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A killer.

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Those are ai. First time I caught a pike, I’m ai, why isn’t this like the most exciting thing to catch? They fight hard.

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01:53:53

Or a musky. Jeez.

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01:53:55

I’ve never caught one

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of those. Me either. That’s the fishtail. We got a little 1,000 casts. Yeah. See, I’m not a I’m not that dude. Now I’ll I’ll wait and hunt a hunt a you know, I’m not a, like, I don’t have to have the biggest best animal my whole life. Like, I don’t roll you know, some people they’re like

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They get into numbers. They’re size queens.

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Yeah. Or score. I’m I’m not that guy. I’m an experienced. Let’s have fun. Let’s see a lot of animals. Let’s catch a lot of fish. Let’s keep a lot of action. Yeah. Let’s keep the kids engaged. Yeah. You know, ai, when when my boys were, you know, when my boys were ai, I’d take them you don’t sana to take them out there on their first three bass fishing trips, and you you burn them in the hot sun and they catch 1 fish.

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01:54:41

Right.

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You you want them Engaged. Engaged and and get them get them going. But, yeah, ai and all that that, you know, steelhead and that northwest steelhead, catching 1, man, I I don’t that’s just I hadn’t done that. I can’t do that. I got

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01:54:56

That’s a release fish too. Right?

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Oh, they release Those are those are the yeah. Those are high on the list of especially ai, speak run steelheads. Mhmm.

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You know,

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you have you have some that are ai of locked in, you know, locked in the reservoir locked.

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Mhmm.

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But you get those those big C Run steelheads, and they they really hold them. And they should hold them in high regard. You you shouldn’t. You need to leave those alone and let them, you know, let them come and go.

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Yeah. But then why are you catching them? You know what I’m saying? Why are you fucking with those fish? Because that’s

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It’s a little bit of that.

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I get it. It’s fun. I’m not opposed to it. I get it. But if I catch fish, I like to eat them. That’s the whole reason why I’m catching fish.

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Sai that yeah. You know what? That’s why I

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like to catch wallow.

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I would still say you’re in the majority. Yeah.

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Yeah. You’re in that’s how it should be. I mean, imagine if you just run around shooting deer with tranquilized darts. Like, I got them. Well A little weird.

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A little weird. Yeah. I I’ve I’ve seen

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prove that you did it?

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Yeah. You know? And then they make bumper, you know, they make bumper tips on bows. You can doink doink deer in the ass and run them off and not you know? Ai then, like, why are you doinking a deer in the ass? You know?

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It’s a little weird. Well, it’s like they make those club heads so you could shoot squirrels and birds.

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Yeah. You know? Well, you know, meh, listen, dude. I grew up, you know, my little town of Leesburg, man. I mean, every year, I got a pellet gun for Christmas. And I got a I got a full ram onesie or a coverall and dude I put my new pair of Chippewa hunting boots Ai put my new set of Ai put my new set of coveralls on with a camo pattern I’d hit the neighborhood walking around with a pellet gun shooting the neighbor squirrels and you know we we’d eat them you know we’d eat them every now and then It’s sai little old lady Mabel Coxwell.

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She we’d skin them and she’d fry them with some wild rice and It tastes good. If you cook a squirrel and do it right, man, it ain’t nothing wrong with a squirrel.

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Isn’t that crazy that most people don’t know that? Right. Squirrels are delicious. Squirrel honey is not very popular

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in the south. Squirrel dumplings. Meh. Instead of chicken chicken and dumplings, squirrel dumplings. Oh. You you you know, you get a squirrel and clean it right and brine it for the night and cook it with dumplings and put some onions and celery and all that, and you’re you’re off to the races.

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People think of them they they have, like, fluffy tail privilege. Rat.

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You know?

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Ram with tails. Because you see a ram. Rats have those slimy tails, and people are like, that’s disgusting. And they see that fluffy tail ai, oh, so cute. Not much different. You know?

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Well, the the the fact that, you know, the fact that, yeah, I could run rampant with a 8 year 9 years old through the neighborhood riding my honda 50 motorcycle you know through people’s backyards you know chasing squirrels and everybody’s like thank you that damn thing’s been in my attic chewing up my my Pink Panther insulation for,

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that’s rural life. Right? Yeah. That’s rural. People aren’t but that’s people that understand what’s going on.

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Yeah. That’s the difference between if

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you did that in a neighborhood in Manhattan, people are like, what the fuck is this guy doing? We need these squirrels. If you they caught you in Central Park with a pellet gun, you go to jail.

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1st first round ticket. 1st yeah. Do not do not pass go. Do not collect. If you break into

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a store and rob it, nothing will happen to you. They’ll let you ai out. Yeah. But if yeah. But if you get caught in Central Park shooting squirrels and eating them, you’re gonna get in real trouble. It’s wild. We live in a wild world. It’s a very strange distorted version of what human beings have been experiencing for most of history.

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No. I mean, nothing is wrong with hunting a little bit.

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Definitely. Especially when 95% of the world eats meat. Yeah. It’s a stupid argument. Well and

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I think, you know, I think it’s all trendy too. I think the beauty is now the education of, you know, I mean, you look at how great carnivore diets are being. Ai never done like a big old carnivore. Have you ever done a big carnivore? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did it change your life?

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Oh, yeah. That’s mostly how I eat. Great. I eat fruit and meat. Great. 99%. I fuck around. Like, my daughter likes to cook cookies.

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I had

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a big ass cookie the other day. It was awesome. I I mean, I’m not ridiculous. Yeah. I’ll eat other things. I’m not religious about it. But most of my diet, like, 90% is just meat and occasionally fruit. Fruit before I workout, fruit sometimes after I workout, but mostly it’s just meat.

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Well, you know, like I said, the best thing about what you do here is you give everybody their platform to talk about their their way. Yeah. And and, you know, your platform is ai me. I mean, you know, dude, I’ve never you know, I Ai was around some dude that was talking about, you know, ai and mushrooms and all that.

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Dude, I never saw a drug. I never saw a drug until I was 30.

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Did you see moonshine?

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Saw moonshine a lot. That’s a drug. Well, that

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is a fucking drug.

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Well, then you’re right. I mean, you drink you drink a half jar of Mason. You know?

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Oh, yeah. You’re gonna

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die. Yeah.

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That’s the crazy thing about alcohol is we

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It gets the mass. Put thing we

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we we are having nicotine right now. This is

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a drug. And when I have these It’s a

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nice cigar, by the way. It’s perfect. It’s very good. Very mild.

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And, man, when I I I was 39 years old before I did any tobacco. Really? Never dipped. My dad kept Levi Garrett, Taylor’s Ai you know the only time he wasn’t chewing meant he had a life insurance policy he had to he had to he had to get blood work and didn’t want to fill his life insurance policy but I was 39 my mom you know my mom’s a my mom’s a character.

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She you know? But, never did ai, never dip. I put one dip in one time and threw up outside the outside my high school. This old boy threw me a dip in and did big old Kodiak, and I threw up outside the high school gymnasium and missed my 5th 6th period. And I was like, dude, I don’t need that.

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Meh those bricks? Little squares of chewing tobacco you bite a chunk of?

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Oh, you just oh. Yeah. Although and well, what I was getting at is I was sitting, we were celebrating the album release. I was 39 years old. 1 of my best buddies brought a nice Davidoff Churchill cigar. And any cigar Ai ever done Sai had smoked cigar ai in Vegas and most ai back then, you know, I didn’t drink a handle of Crown and ai a cigar and you wake up the next morning, you’re like, you know, your life’s over, essentially.

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Well, it’s probably the handle of crown. Right. Well, we smoked that cigar, and I sat in my rocking chair and just smoked that cigar. And I was like, man, this is kinda

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It’s kinda nice.

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This is kinda like therapy right here.

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All these people smoking cigars aren’t stupid. There’s gotta be something to it. And they’re chilled out.

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Yeah. They’re, you know It’s

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a nice conversational

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thing to do. They are chilled. They are universally Yeah. Chilled out. But it’s a drug. Oh, let’s It’s a drug. Yeah. Let’s

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go. We’re drinking coffee. That’s a drug. This this the problem is there’s a lot of drugs, and some of

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them are really fucking bad for you. Here’s the deal. I and and I’ll call my buddy every now and then that and he was my buddy that bought me the cigar. He was a lifelong Copenhagen and cigarettes here and quitting and I called him I’ll call him periodically and I’m like you asshole. I’m stopping at a grocery.

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I’m stopping at a random cigar shop. I’ve gone 4 days without a cigar and I’m riding down the road and I determined right now Ai need one. You know, you weave across four lanes of traffic, find a you know, and then next thing you know, you’re smoking a grocery store. I mean, a a gas station cigar. It just but but, ai, it keeps you keeps you keeps the head clean.

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I like them. I I like I said, I think it’s one of the best things

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to ai. Smoke 12 of them a day. No.

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No. I don’t think so either, but I know people who do. I know people who just go one to the other. They just chain smoked cigars.

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Yeah. Now my mother, dude, Salem ai 100, 3 packs a day. Woah. 44 Bud Lights a day her whole life. Four Bud Lights.

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Every day.

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Is she still with us? She’s with us.

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Damn. Because that’s the thing that always gets people.

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Damn.

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They’re ai, maybe I should quit. Hold on.

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Well, it Or you lose meh. Listen, my mom, man, dude, she Joe, she’s curved the she’s curved the beer a little bit, but she’ll drink her a couple of O’Dules, but she’s gonna have her 1 or 2 Bud Lights.

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Every day?

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Every day. She’s gone 3 packs might she’s but she’s like the you know, it’s like if she’s walking in to the to the to Dillard’s or to the TJ Maxx, she’s like, oh my god. I’m walking in.

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Take a couple of

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puffs. Take a couple and hit, you know, litter the parking lot. But she’ll she’ll pan fry a rib eye in butter. Pan fries a rib eye.

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02:04:24

That’s probably what’s keeping her alive.

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Pan fries a rib eye, ai some shoestring French fries. And that’s her damn meal 4 to 5 nights a week. 4 76 glorious years.

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That’s probably why she’s healthy.

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And is ready to chew my ass out at any moment.

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And how many cigarettes do you think she’s down to a day?

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I I hope she’s probably at a pack and a half. But, man, when you do the meh, when I used to sit her down and do math, you know, her and my her and my dad were married 32 years and divorced. And so when she went out kinda on her own, I’d sit her down and do the math on 4 Bud Lights, 2 and a half packs of Salem’s, and 4 pan fried rib eyes.

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It that’s becomes a damn number annually.

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I think the rib eyes are fine. Leave her alone with the ribeyes.

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02:05:14

You know what? But through the years, I’ve gotten Miller Lite endorsements. I I would get Miller Lite like sai I’d be like mama. There’s a Miller Lite truck pulling up to your house. It’s gonna deliver you a pallet of Miller Lite. Just ai. Just try to fall in love with Miller Lite.

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Right. But Nope. Bud Ai.

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I’d get home for you know, get home 2 months after the pallet got there. You know, there the pallet sits. Calling my ai,

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hey, boys. A lot of people had, like, a personal crisis when there was that Bud Light boycott. There was a lot of people, like, I don’t know what to do. I don’t know what to do. When Kid Rock shot that Bud Ai,

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And then he kept selling it in his bar. We ai some.

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We dragged some on the podcast we did together.

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Yeah. And I Ai love you. Meh let it go

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after a while.

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He did. Sai love him. He he’s been he’s been a a damn good buddy of mine and has has come to ai charity event.

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02:06:11

He’s a wild boy. He’s awesome. I love that dude. He’s he’s He’s a lot of fun. He’s awesome. But when

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I saw him do that,

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I was ai, oof. Imagine being the CEO of Bud Light and seeing that, like, oh, no. Kid Rock just shot our beer

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with a fucking automatic.

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It was ai, fuck Anheuser Busch, like, no. And, I mean, that alone probably cost them 1,000,000,000 dollars just having to

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get there. Yeah. When our beer when our beer is is Political. Political, we’re ai

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Not just our beer, but Bud Light. Bud Ai. The beer that sponsored more boxing matches, more sporting events, more people been drinking Bud Light. I mean, think about all the people speak by Bud Light. Post Malone’s

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02:06:58

always drinking Bud Light. You know, my my wife’s dad is a is a Budweiser, fucking 12 pack a day dude, man. And, you you know, he had to he had to hear a little shit from his buddies about it.

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02:07:10

But People get in fights in bars. I have a friend who owned a bar. We we stopped carrying at the mothership because nobody was buying it. We stopped carrying Bud Light because nobody was buying Bud Light.

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Have we checked on where it It’s come back. Fully?

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No. I don’t think so. I think there’s a bunch of holdouts that are always gonna go fuck those liberals forever. But the lady who came up with the idea is gone. Like, the whole the whole marketing team behind, they’re all gone. Anheuser Busch is an American company that has employed American people forever. It’s a great company. They just fucked up. They get caught up in the mind virus.

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Anheuser Busch taught us that beer is wonderful for Christmas, and Clydesdales and Dalmatians are the equivalent of of Jesus and Christmas.

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Well, meh those, Bud Light guys, the Real American Genius guys? Remember that? Yeah. Meh Genius. They had great commercials.

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02:08:06

Dude, I would cry over the Dalmatian Clydesdale commercial. You remember when the little the little puppy? Yeah. He’s riding on the Clydesdales. Jimmy. Oh, shit. It’s like a freaking Hallmark.

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02:08:14

You would never think that that company could get

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taken down. But that just I think that was good. It was bad for Bud

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02:08:18

Light, but I think it was good. Here it is. Let’s see it. We’re gonna get all sweet.

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02:08:31

Here we go. Hello, Don?

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02:08:33

Oh, the little puppy.

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Listen to that music.

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02:08:43

Oh, did a puppy got out? Oh, poor puppies lost.

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It’s for beer.

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This is for beer. Yeah.

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Poor little puppy. Wow. What a commercial. Who we need to find oh god. Wolves. They’re in Colorado.

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02:09:20

The horses sai the puppy from the wolves. Have a bud. Very effective commercial. You know? Real quick.

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You’re happy. Yeah. And then there’s the one where the it’s a Dalmatian too that that grew up and then got to the the old Dalmatian and the little you know, they’re riding the and the young Dalmatian sees the old Dalmatian. And I think the old Dalmatian kicks the bucket, and then the new Dalmatian takes its place. And then you’re like, oh my god. It’s the best thing ever. Yeah.

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Well And

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that company got taken out ai having a transgender woman on their can. But it just shows you how prevalent this whole ai virus is that it even got into Bud Ai, which is just bizarre. But so and, you know, the the lady who’s responsible for it all basically shit on the entire customer base, you know, saying that they have a fratty sense of humor and we need to update it and make it more inclusive and, like, do you know what you’re saying?

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02:10:28

You’re alienating all the people that buy it and love it and counting on people who don’t buy it and love it to start buying it and loving it. And maybe that’ll work, but you just alienated everybody who buys it and love it. It’s the dumbest poker move of all time.

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The the worst. The worst. Move. Well, you know, when you look at country music too, I mean, with country music, I mean, it is what it is. There’s things that it is, and you gotta you gotta love on what it is, And then you gotta grow it too. I mean, there’s there’s sensible ways to grow it. And But it has to be up to the artist just express themselves honestly.

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02:11:08

And if the artist is a country artist that has a different perspective, let that be. But leave all the rest of it the way it is too.

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Buddy, the with every successful music artist that’s ever lived, they may have faked you out any any genre, but country is even country’s tough. Because once you show any unauthentic unauthenticity Yeah. Buddy, you’re you’re done. You’re done.

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I could imagine.

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Like, dude, I mean Yeah. Like, dude, my biggest like, when I man, you know, I got my thing was tight jeans. You wouldn’t imagine me wearing tight jeans on stage, How much that piss pisses people?

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Well, it’s because you’re handsome.

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But that’s

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part of the problem.

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02:12:05

You’re a

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good looking guy up there with tight jeans. Shaking ass. Shaking that ass. Showing that bulge. Get out of here, dude.

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02:12:13

And then I’m like, what?

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02:12:14

Merle Haggard. What the fuck is this?

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So, Joe, you know, one thing you know, my biggest my biggest hurdle ever in my my career, and it it still breaks my heart to this day. You know, back when I my only way to your only way to make it in music is you’ve gotta stop people’s eyeballs on you you got to grab them vocally visually musically different you got to get them to stop for 2 seconds go what

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is that what is that fucker doing right there

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02:13:01

And when I came out with Country Girl Shaker Ram Me on the on the CMA shaking my ass, I mean, I had to do it that way. In my opinion, I had to go, this is my moment to show country goes shaking for me, and I’m the guy that dances and and don’t give a damn and let’s have some fun and come along for the ride.

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And it was amazing. It was amazing. You know, the fact that I’m a Georgia boy at the time and I was talking to Texas people, I was talking to everybody. Well, then at some point, a label for me came became bro country. Have you ever even heard that term?

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02:13:45

I did. I did because of you.

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Yeah. Well, so I heard it, and I’m like, well, bro country. Well, then I started seeing the people making fun of bro country, and I’m like, well, this is kinda fucking pissing me off. And then and then me and some other artists start getting looped into this bro country phase.

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Well, I when I was in my form of coming up as an arya, and I don’t even know we can we don’t have to live on this long, but you’ll be amazed, dude. So I would go play. I I made my way by going to Georgia and play in Georgia college towns in the southeast. And even I played Auburn a little bit, Auburn, Alabama.

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And that that school, I I always wanted to break into Auburn and Tuscaloosa because I was always a Georgia artist. Well, I started branching out. Well, dude, I’d get done with a college party. I’d walk off stage. The first thing that would happen is, you know, ai. Ram, she’s fine. Give it to meh.

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Give it to me one more time. Get low. Get low. I mean and right when my set got done, hip hop, the the the the vibe went to a ai. And I’m standing.

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02:15:11

I’m at the I done walked off stage, went to the bar, ordered the beer, and watched everybody that just let me play Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, all the classics, my couple of new songs. And I was like, well, man, this is nobody’s got a fucking problem with this. This is

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this is

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we’re all together in this good time. So when I did country girl shah it for me, that made that tie. Crossover. It ai them. It made it tie to a little bit. Yeah. And then Jason Aldine had his, she’s ai, fucking biggest song. When I heard I mean, at the time when Jason and I are buddies, he does She’s Country. I do country girl shaker.

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Me and me and him are like we’re like, this shah. Our lives are I mean, I toured with Jason 1 year, and he broke all of Elvis’s indoor records. We did it for 2 years. I was the opener, and Jason was the headliner, and people and and rap was we were playing rap before the show, and and everybody was in well, then bro country comes along.

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02:16:26

Dude, I wake up on the bus one morning, and I got this interview. Sitting there drinking my coffee in my fucking underwear, and this dude calls me with Hits Magazine. And he goes, well, Luke, you know,

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02:16:43

man, this broke country thing.

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And I said, well, hold up, buddy. Here’s what this is. And I said, and, man, I did this, and I made one fatal error. And at the time, Joe, no one hated my ass. I believe that. I mean, I did ai I was coming to Billy Bob’s playing in well, I had Texas. I had the the the I had the I had I’d go to I’d go to Bozeman, Montana and play country girl shaker for me. I’d go to everywhere.

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02:17:22

Well and I said, man, I don’t know how to be an outlaw. I’m not an outlaw. That ain’t I’m a I’m a college dude that played frat parties for country music. I play I was like, I fucking did not go sit in a prison cell

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02:17:44

Right.

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Like Merle Haggard and write songs about guys going to death ram. And I didn’t go to Folsom Bryden. And meh, Ai I listed all the I Ai was like, I’m not like Willie Nelson. I don’t do Willie Nelson. They’re they’re outlaws. And I said, if it’s bro country and that’s what I’m labeled as, I said and where I fucked up is I said, I haven’t Sai haven’t spent the night, like, sleeping on the street, and I didn’t sai, like, Johnny Cash’s song, Sunday Morning Coming Down.

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That’s what I meant. I just didn’t tie it. Well, that dude took that article and sai, Luke Ai says outlaw country people are basically, drug addicts to sleep in the street. And, man, I pissed that whole that the way they manipulated that story,

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I lost that whole crowd right there.

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Ai my heart. And ai Sai think Saloni Jennings daughter went real public with being Ai mean, she’s fucking mad at my ass. And shah went on there going, you know, Luke, my dad never late, and I never meant that. I just meant yeah. Waylon was in there too. But we all know what all those guys are because we got to watch all the documentaries about those guys, and we got to be students of those guys.

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That’s the problem with interviews. It’s first of all, they’re trying to get you.

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Well, your interviews are the beauty. Well and you no one’s no one’s gotten pop more than you because they’ll take our man, I hope we sit here in bullshit for 3 hours, but they’ll take your 5 minutes.

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02:19:22

Right. Out of context.

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And now they’ll AI you.

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02:19:26

That’s happened a lot. Yeah.

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So will the so what happened, meh? That thing started growing. And, man, I had motorcycle gangs wanting to burn my house down. I had

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Oh my god.

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When when you get misrepresented in that type of deal and then the the subcategories of articles, than the article of the article of the article.

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02:19:48

What year was this?

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Man, I Ai don’t know. We I don’t it was probably 2012 or 13.

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02:19:53

So this was when social media was not as impactful. It was becoming. Was YouTube viewing around then?

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Yes. And clickbait the world of clickbait was was getting Just start now. Rocking. Right. And but what so what I did is, man, I called Whelan Jennings’ daughter and and said I said, ma’am, I I just forgot to say ai this like the Kris Kristofferson song Sunday Morning Coming Down.

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That’s all I meant by that. And I think she accepted Ai called Sai I text Willie. He sent me the best reply. He goes he goes, it’s okay to step on your dick. Just don’t stand on it. I called Jesse, Wayland.

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I called Jesse Colter, and she goes, Luke, what did you mean in the interview? And I told her. And she goes, Ai stopped doing print interview. And and it was and then but by then, the the the narrative started. And since then, I can all I can always tell that if if that one little thing, I probably would have kept that whole base.

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And then the, oh ai god, he wears tight jeans, and he must, you know, he must homosexual on the side, you know, as I’m posing with my my my, you know, my all American family.

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I think it’s probably a thing also they think Hollywood has invaded country music, which is always a big threat because there’s so much money in country music that they think these Hollywood executives that don’t understand or appreciate real country are gonna come in and make something inauthentic. So then they hear you saying that, get misrepresented, and then they take it as a part of all of that. Right?

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02:21:40

Joe Latt so my album came out. I I I I put a I I worked on an album for 3 years. It’s called Ai of a Country Boy, and I put it out, like, 1st October. And I didn’t want to put the damn album out because the reality is is I’m not at the height when every artist hits their peak every you know it Sai mean I sold out I was selling out football stadiums 1st day.

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3 or 4 years, I did it. I know that’s my peak probably.

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I know it is. Fuck.

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I’m not gonna even say probably. I’m a realist. Well, so we put the album out, and I said, you know what? The album’s no album sell. Nothing sells anymore. So I knew there was gonna be a negative take on the album. I knew something negative would come by me putting the album out based on it may not sell. And it it sold what it did.

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It didn’t do it did what I thought it’d do. As me being the artist where Ai at my life especially

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in this world of streaming ai nothing’s buying anymore

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nothing’s buying well dude Sai did 20:40 Ai did 40 hours of 40 hours of you know, all the stuff.

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The What what’s happened is because of online advertising being the primary source of income for news, they have to do clickbait shit. They have to distort things. And then they have editors that don’t give a shit about anything other than the bottom line. Sai you get a writer even if the writer’s a good person.

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I’ve had writers that I know have written about people that I know, and they told me that their editor came in and changed things. They’re told they told me their editor because the editor’s

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ass is about to get canned. Yeah. Exactly. Because they his company just got bought by a bit conglomerate. Exactly. That

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that’s why artists should just stay away from that shit.

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Well, and I you do, and I knew it. What sucks Yeah. Is dude, Ai you know, you you know it. You know when you’re getting baited. Yeah. You can see it coming a mile away.

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You have to film everything you do. Every conversation you have with someone, you should film them all sai that no one could take you out of context. And then if anything goes wrong, sai that guy’s full of shit, this is what I said.

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I did. And then I did. Even make a video.

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I did. And those people should be shamed. It’s a tear it’s a terrible evil ugly thing you do. You crush people’s perspective. You change how the world looks at people just for clickbait. And it could it could genuinely affect someone’s life and

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your worthiness. Listen. You know the deal. I mean, I grew up in South Georgia, and, you know, we’ve raised our dang kids cook, like, color blind. It’s so awesome. I’m so proud of their color blindness.

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Isn’t it funny that that is a negative thing to say today? That people don’t like that idea?

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Did I just say something negative?

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Yeah. There’s a lot of people that don’t think you should be color blind. They think you that that’s a lie.

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See, I you should think that way.

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02:24:33

That sai what we were all working towards until about 2,012. Have you ever seen ai the numbers? I’m a I’m a send you this, Jamie, because this is what people need to understand. A lot of what we’re all experiencing is manipulation and a lot of this manipulation might not even be from our own country.

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A lot of this manipulation is what happens when you have foreign entities that are manipulating people. Oh, yeah. That’s it. Thank you. Look at that. Jamie, you’re the best.

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02:25:01

Yearly mentions of prejudice in popular US news media outlets. Now look at what happens. Look at this crazy spike. So you have everything from 1970 until you have, like, 1990. See, what’s going on in 1990? Between 80 ai, you have cable. Okay?

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So now you have people that need more eyes on their shit. So you have Fox News. You have a lot of this. You have people who get a little bit more jazzed up. Look at transphobia. You never even heard what the fuck that was until 2,010.

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Look look how it just jumps up in 2,020. In 1990, didn’t exist. ai, didn’t exist. Islamophobia, same deal. Antisemitism. Scroll all the way up to the top, though, Jamie.

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Sai look at racism. Racism is essentially fairly steady until around 2,012, and then it goes on this wild ramp straight up. The New York Times ram 2,010 to 2,020, it goes up 712%. Los Angeles Times, 756%. It just skyrockets all the meh of racism. Why? Because no one wants racism.

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No one wants to be racist. Everyone’s scared of being called racist, and all the race hustlers love to call people racist. So it becomes a commodity. So people start chain trading in racism. And this idea that you shouldn’t be color ai and then you should recognize race, you should recognize color and there’s stop.

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We were on a we were on a good path to what Martin Luther King said, judging people but based on the content of their character. We were on that path and social media and manipulation fucked us. And hopefully, we ai what happened now and I think there’ll be a downward trend and people sort of, like, wake up.

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And, I think that is that’s one thing that is balancing out right now with the Internet is enough people ai they’ve been manipulated, so starting to, like, calm down. A lot of this woke shit started to die off. And sai people are coming to their senses, like, what? Like, everybody just woke up from a fever dream.

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But as far as your situation and dealing with the media, don’t.

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Oh, I know. Just don’t. Yeah.

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You should you have

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sai dang you know the deal. You’re naive.

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You’re a little bit naive because you’re a nice guy. But it’s because you’re a good person. That’s why you’re naive. You assume other people are good.

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What’s amazing is when I’m at on American Ai, that desk, and I’ve been doing it for 9 damn years. And I have cried with everybody. When those kids come in, they are everybody walking through that door is a microcosm of America. And, man, I’ve sat there and loved and loved and learned.

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Do you enjoy doing that? Ai seeing new talent pop up?

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Nothing is more amazing than watching a broken kid that’s been told they’re not good, and they come from everywhere. They it could be the man, the the craziest thing is the is the is the kids that were raised in the homes of doctors. That the doctor family can’t wrap their head around my child wanting to go try this fucking music thing. What? Well, you’re you’re doctors. We’re doctors.

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And meh, when they branch out and the family gets behind them and then they go and follow their ram, and man, it’s really yeah. It doesn’t get old. I mean, listen. I mean, it’s a fun chair to be in. It’s a fun chair to be in because that door opens and it’s a it’s a life that comes in and you don’t know what the hell.

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You know, we we have a note or 2 ai, you know just lost their father to cancer 3 months ago you know from a small town but other than that man we don’t know what they’re gonna do and how they’re gonna react and it’s pretty cool Ai mean you know when and and and when I just moved to Nashville when Meh Idol was just Ai mean 40,000,000 viewers a week and the the you know the the tone in Nashville is that’s the cheap route to get famous because I came up through you got to play a 1,000 nightclubs you got to go you got to go through you got to meet the record labels you got to do the radio you got to go meet everybody at radio so with the whole town of Nashville was like well it’s not totally fair that they meh to just pop on TV and and and sai you know and and skip all the but now I mean now now that’s gone, which is great.

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02:29:47

Well, here’s an example. Oliver Anthony.

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Totally.

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Oliver Anthony has one song he releases. It’s the most pull up that song because this fucking song, this dude ai it, it’s just a camera and him with his guitar. Ai it,

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I was like, holy shit. That’s fucking amazing, and holy shah. That guy better have some songs to come behind it.

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Yeah. Well, he’s a talented motherfucker.

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I know I know he very, very bright man. And it’s what life

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shit

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Listen to that.

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Bullshit pays so I can sit out here and waste my life away, ram back home, and drown

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Damn, Shane. Listen to that.

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This dude was selling equipment. He’d never even done a concert. First concert he does is, like, 18,000 people at a state fair, and he’s as genuine as you can. Him on here. Correct? I Ai had him on here, and I actually gave him advice. How did he do? He did great ai I I gave him advice before I met him because he was in the middle of all this. And he goes, hey, man.

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He goes, can I talk to you? So we talked on the phone. I’m like, what’s up? He’s like, meh, I’m getting all these offers from all these people. They wanna buy this and buy that. They wanna give me $7,000,000 if I do this and sign that. I said, stay independent. I go, you have talent.

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Everyone’s saying I have to act now. I go, fuck those people. I go, you don’t have to act now. That’s famine thinking. I go, you’re talented, man.

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And I had heard a couple of his other songs as well. He’s fucking talented and he’s genuine. And I go, you can’t fake that. Just stick stick stay independent, man, because they’re not gonna offer you anything. Those people are just gonna their the reason why they wanna give you a lot of money is because they’re gonna make way more than they’re gonna give you.

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That’s the only reason why they wanna give you money. They want a piece of you before you become one of the biggest stars in the world.

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Yeah.

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And then they own a chunk of you forever because they gave you $7,000,000 or you didn’t have any money. I go, just bank on yourself, man.

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Yeah. And and god you know, the beauty of Ai is is and and guys like this, there’s so many avenues now. You can go the old fashioned route. You can go the quick route. You can go the idle route. You can go stream on you know, you can go video yourself on all your social platforms, and the right song can blow you up.

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But then and then you gotta go do the real work. You gotta do the real work. You can have

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other other bullets in your chamber.

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That’s what we tell the kids on idle now. I think when idle was really, really, obviously, when Kelly Clarkson and and Carrie Underwood won and and even people after that, they went they still they went their ass to work too. And It’s an insane opportunity. It’s insane. Yeah.

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And and you know these kids on Idol now, they love seeing their their social media platforms go up a 1000% and it’s worth it and you know we you know and there’s going to be bumps in the road and it’s you know it’s still you know it’s still you know there’s going to be a you know, a group of people saying, you know, American Idol may exploit these kids.

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Man, I’m in the back. I’m behind the scenes on everything. And, man, we we won’t, you know, they won’t when we get a kid that we love, man, we sit around, we go to dinner, and we talk about that kid and love him. And and these I think, you know, these kids, leave it going, meh, that was a great experience for them. I hope sai.

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But, you know

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I’m sure they do. And it is an insane opportunity. If you wanna be a professional musician and you wanna make a career out of it, it’s one of the most unbelievable moments. You gotta do your path.

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Yeah. You got my path was my path, and it was unique to ai. And because yours is different, that don’t mean I need to hate you for it.

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02:33:40

There’s a lot of that shit with comedians today too. Oh. Because a comedian will have one clip or he’s doing some crowd work or one clip of one bit that everybody loves, then all of a sudden he’s selling out and everybody’s ai, that guy

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He only had one good job. Yeah.

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He’s only been around for 3 years, but so what? He let him run with it. Let him run with it. You know, it’s it’s, we’re living in a new world. It’s like the song. Everybody’s a new world.

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Why wouldn’t we all want someone else to win? Right. What is wrong what’s wrong with people winning? It’s like you have figured out how to feed yourself with a guitar. Yeah. You figured out how to tell jokes Yeah. And make a living. And and you know all ai, meh, like I said, dude, I won’t even post my damn deer I killed because I don’t wanna I don’t wanna get online and be there with a glass of wine at 3 AM and start motherfucking.

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Ai, dude, I I want to I want to kill them. And I I Yeah. If you and ai I said, you get over it, you get over it, but, man, it pisses you off.

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I I don’t read anything. I I tell everybody, don’t read anything. Don’t read anything about you. Just don’t. Don’t read the good stuff. Don’t read the bad stuff.

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Good with it and I mean, hell I mean, I’m sitting out with a 48 year old man. My shit’s in the bank, but it still makes

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you mad. It still makes you mad. It doesn’t matter even if you’re undeniable. It doesn’t matter. It’s a human it’s a human instinct to read negative things and get upset because humans always had to worry about threats. And if the threats were other tribes or predators or whatever You had to attack that threat. Yeah. So we’re always we’re mentally conditioned to look for threats.

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Ai fight or flight or something, man. Well, it’s also it’s ai if you have a 100 people who love you but one that hates you, that one is the one you’re gonna think about. You’re not gonna think all the people that take they say you’re awesome. You’re gonna think about that one that hates you.

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And then you have to think about the kind of people that post comments. Most of the people who post comments are miserable people. Not the positive comments, but the negative comments.

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I started a thing, you know, and I know you got people in your world where, man, you know, there’s assholes, and you’ll huddle up, and you’ll spend an hour talking about how you can’t believe how big an asshole that person is.

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Yeah.

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And I’m like, guys, we’re 15 minutes in on talking about this person being an asshole.

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We wasted 15 minutes of our life.

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15 minutes on all it’s trying to figure out Yeah. Why can’t they stop being an asshole?

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You basically wasted 1 1 hundredth of your day. On somebody. On somebody that sucks. You only get a 100 of those 15 minutes in a day, and you wasted one talking about a shithead. It’s a meh, but it’s a normal thing that people do. You just gotta not do it. You gotta realize this in

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your world.

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Where when I see when I see other buddies doing it, I’m like, woah. Woah. Woah.

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Woah. Woah. Get out of there. Yeah. Man. I recognized it when I was on television before social media. There was a thing called, the there was these Hollywood magazines ai Variety and the Hollywood Reporter ai I would always call them the Devil’s Rag because I would get to the set of the TV show and everybody was reading the devil’s rag.

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They were all ai, oh, I can’t believe they’re number 2. We should be number we should be right after Friends. Oh, and they would everybody was upset. And I was, like, you guys are I’m on TV. I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with you people. I’m on television. I can’t believe I’m on TV.

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02:37:20

You guys are upset that we’re number 30 instead of number 2 or whatever the fuck it is. Can’t we just appreciate the fact that this is back when there was only, like, 5 networks. Can we appreciate the fact that we’re one of the luckiest human beings that have ever lived? We’re on a fucking television shah. Nice. And yet you’re reading these magazines.

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And it’s, like, is it Thomas Jefferson who wrote that quote? Comparison is the thief of joy. But whoever was that was it Jefferson? I know we know who it is. We’ve read it before, but that quote is so accurate. Comparison.

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02:37:49

It’s that’s why billionaires I I know a dude is worth, like, a 1,000,000,000 and a half dollars, and he thinks he’s broke because he’s friends with, like, Jeff Bezos.

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I do not get into that. You cannot get into that world.

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There you can’t win. You can’t win because you’re in a crazy fucking numbers race, and it doesn’t mean anything. You’re not even enjoying what you have.

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02:38:12

So my wife for her 40th birthday, man, I surprised her, and I rented her, never done anything. We rented, like, a 100 20 foot boat and took all our college friends down to Sai. Barts for New Year’s. Have you ever heard of this scene?

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02:38:29

No. Dude, is it crazy?

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Joe, so first of all, I mean, this boat that we got is a 120 foot Westport. Beautiful. We get to Sai Paul. I didn’t know what the fuck we were doing.

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02:38:46

Oh, you’re in the yacht world. Okay. So you’re entering into these worlds of 200 foot boats, 250 foot boats. The oligarchs. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I’ve seen that before.

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In Ai Bart’s, and they all Uh-huh. They all float there for talking

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02:39:00

about. Yeah.

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New Year’s. Uh-huh.

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02:39:01

And it’s all dick measuring contest.

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Dude. And my captain of that little boat, which that boat looked like our boat that we were on looked like they’re shuttle boats. Right. And I my captain, I said, did you ever pilot one of those? He goes, oh, yeah. He goes I said, what what what were they doing on there? He goes, looking at the other boats, wondering.

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I said, that dude is on a fucking $1,000,000,000 yacht and pissed at the

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other $1,000,000,000 yacht. Yeah. That’s real. They’re all in competition with each other, and they’re all hating.

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You know? And and I’m entering in. Yeah. You just gotta get your little world, like, my little world now. Tight. My little Tennessee hunting world. I tell people all the time. They’re like, come on down to my ranch. I’m like, man, I got I got my little deal.

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Yeah. It’s enough. Stay sane. Keep it tight. What are

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they doing on that boat, Cap?

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Isn’t that nuts? Imagine being on a 250 foot yacht looking at the dude on the 300 foot yacht going, goddamn it. I gotta upgrade. I was talking to a dude who pilots yachts sana he was telling me that they they always sana sell them. They always wanna sell them and get another one.

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He goes, all these yachts are always almost for sale. I go, how come? He goes, because they always want another yacht. They always want a bigger yacht. It’s a trap. It’s a giant trap. Imagine having all that money, you’re not even appreciating it because you’re worried about making more.

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Remember we were kids, if you said be like, what would you do if you had a $1,000,000? It never work again. Ai fucking just

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Well, you know, I I remember dreaming. Do you did you lay in bed and just be like, I remember dreaming about trying to do it and how how I was gonna go Are

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02:40:46

you gonna get rich? How am I gonna

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get I wouldn’t say rich. How am I gonna be able to have my own little my own bass pond?

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Right.

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Because I would have to call other people and get permission. Right. And that did the anxiety of calling old farmer Right. Going, hey, you know, farmer Johnson, can I go fish your bass lake? Ai don’t know, Luke. Not today. I’d be like, fuck. And so I I remember doing that, and then when you start achieving it, man, I I still I mean, I I don’t I don’t think it’s I don’t think I’m living in that world of, like, the other

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02:41:21

Right. Digging. You know, I

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think you can for a minute. Yeah. I think it can I think you can for a little bit?

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02:41:27

Like But it’s a trap.

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It is a trap.

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And the problem is it’s all numbers. Number it’s ai, you know how dudes are crazy with deer? Like, I want a 200 inch deer.

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Say Sai ai

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02:41:36

do that. 200 inch I can’t

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do that. I want

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02:41:37

a 400 inch elk. They get crazy with numbers. You know, I talked to this dude who worked on a ranch and the they have big elk on this ram. And he sai, sometimes the conchas are really happy with an elk and then they’ll put a tape to it and measure it, and it’s 396 and they get bummed out because it’s not 400.

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I’m like, those people are sick. You should never have them here again. You should boick ban them. They should never be allowed to be here again. That’s a sickness.

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02:42:00

But that’s what happens with these people with everything, man. I never had a dream of being wealthy. It was never a dream. It was never even an never even in my imagination did I ever think I was gonna be rich. I never even thought about it.

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I when I started doing stand up comedy, my dream was to be a professional because I always had jobs. My dream was to be able to pay my bills with comedy. I looked at all the details.

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Yeah. That was now my dream yeah. Let me make sure I didn’t steer you wrong on that. My my dream was to to do these things out of being bryden, like, bryden I mean, when I moved to Nashville, I wrote on a chalkboard, write a number one song. You know, win a win a CMA award. You know?

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02:42:46

Oh, you had a vision board?

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I had a little vision board. Nice. But I I didn’t understand. I didn’t really comprehend the money after that because I didn’t know it. And I didn’t know, like, like, people are like, I’m a big Georgia Bulldog fan. And they’re like, did you go to Georgia? And I’m like, buddy, me going to the University of Georgia when I was 18 years old, I mean, I I barely my dad barely got the money for me to go to the community college 12 minutes down the road.

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02:43:18

So going to Georgia didn’t

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Wasn’t even put

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it in there. Right. So but go ahead.

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I’m just saying that when I see people that that’s all they care about is the money, and then they’re always thinking about the richness and the I just think it’s a trap. And it the problem is if you’re always comparing yourself to other people, you’re not gonna enjoy what you have. You’re not gonna enjoy this experience, temporary experience of life.

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Right. You know? Because it is temporary.

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02:43:45

It’s so quick. I’m 57 years old. How the fuck did that happen? All of a sudden, you just keep getting older. And then, you know, one day you’re dead. And I bet on your deathbed, you’re ai, how did it happen so quick? How did it happen so quick? What are you doing with your ai?

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02:44:01

And are you enjoying it? And I think you need things outside of what you do that you love. And, like, for you and I, I think it’s hunting and getting outdoors because I think it balances ai. I think there’s something very spiritual about it. I think there’s something just being in the woods is it’s a very spiritual experience, like a real spiritual experience.

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02:44:21

Like, there I think it’s like a vitamin that you don’t know you need until you get it. And when you get it, you feel better. When I’m out there, I feel better. I just feel better. I’m like, the air is cleaner. I feel more in touch with being alive. It just feels better.

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02:44:36

And I think I’m not thinking about anything else. When I’m if I’m elk hunting, I’m not thinking about jokes ai I’m not thinking about podcast guests. I’m not thinking about jack shit. I’m just thinking about what I’m doing. That’s it.

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02:44:48

It’s and it’s it’s very difficult to do and it’s it’s you have to really focus and you’re thinking about it and you’re always trying to improve and just that alone is good for your brain. It’s good for your life.

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02:45:00

I lost, you know, I lost my brother and my sister and my sister’s husband passed away. And, man, when and then yeah. It should Ai lost my brother at 26, my sister at 39, and her husband died at 45. And, man, it is present. The the daily appreciation of this deal is visually present.

Speaker: 0
02:45:27

Isn’t that crazy about people, though? It’s ai they almost need to lose something to be able to appreciate what you have.

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02:45:33

Well, and I tell people, man, you know, you you meet I tell people, man, really be careful because if you make it to 80, you’re gonna get you’re gonna get popped with something ai I don’t think you can get through this thing.

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02:45:49

Like some kind of a disease or something? No.

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02:45:51

No. I don’t well, I’m saying you’re gonna lose something. You’re gonna lose something, dear. You’re not gonna get through a to z without really a hard a hard loss.

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02:46:04

No. That’s And it’s just a part of life.

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02:46:06

And but some people, man, they’re just Delusional. They just

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02:46:10

well, they’re delusional, and then a lot of people are medicated too. So that they don’t even know what the fuck is going on while they’re living this life. They’re living this life under the influence of the pharmaceutical drug companies, and they’re just floating through life in a haze.

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02:46:23

And they don’t even know what’s happening while it’s happening. And then they get to the end. And then what’d you do? What’d you do? Did you help people?

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02:46:31

Did you make people feel better? Did you inspire people? Did you enrich people’s lives? What did you do? You know?

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02:46:38

And then then you have to ai, like, goddamn, I wasted a lot of time reading comments. Thank you. Thank you for

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02:46:46

doing that.

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02:46:47

A lot of time getting mad at the assholes.

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02:46:49

I don’t do it bad, though. That’s what’s funny. I don’t do it bad.

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02:46:52

Everybody says that. Everybody says they don’t look at their phone. Let me see your screen ai. Like, 6 hours. Jesus, bitch. What the heck are you doing?

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02:47:01

Oh, Lord. Yeah, man. I mean Well,

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02:47:04

we’re all this is a new world too in terms of that. I keep saying this is a new world, but there’s really is a new element to to our lives is this, social media element. And I think, there’s not a lot of stuff that’s written on it where people understand

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02:47:19

Yeah. We’re learning and Yeah. We’re learning all the time. Yeah. We’re the we’re the lab rats.

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02:47:23

We really arya. Especially our kids. Our kids really are the lab rats. That we the kids really are. And not just that, also access to violence. They see so much violence. They see so much online that’s horrible.

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02:47:35

Think about I think about this all the time. I would go stay with a buddy at his house, and he’d go, meh,

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02:47:48

I rented faces of death. Remember those?

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02:47:53

I wouldn’t watch them. I’d be like, ram, my parents told me not to watch that. He go, what? You don’t watch this guy get electrocuted? And I’m like, the fuck no. I don’t wanna watch a dude get electrocuted. Dude, we’re watching people we’re watching people there

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02:48:13

it’s Yeah. If you’re on Instagram, you’re seeing people dying. Every Every day. Every day, I have friends sending me a lot of shit. Breaking. Oh, yeah.

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02:48:23

I mean, I remember Joe Ai. When Joe Theismann broke his leg, dude, it’s, like, shut the country down.

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02:48:31

Yeah. I know. Now that’s not

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02:48:33

And now

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02:48:33

it’s like That’s nothing. I watched a dude on a diving board and his foot fell in a crack in the dive diving board had an opening in it, and he went forward and his knee stayed in the same place and just snapped his leg the wrong way and he’s screaming hanging from a broken leg.

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02:48:48

That’s just one thing I saw today.

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02:48:50

Sai ai you don’t do that.

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02:48:53

I I watch things on Instagram. I just don’t read comments. But, me and Tom Segura, we send each other the most horrible shit every day. It’s ridiculous. But some days, he sends me things Ai don’t even look at them. I’m like, ai

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02:49:07

Oh, I could see it coming, but I do love I do love the funny comical aspect of it that gets me and a cup of coffee dying laughing at some person being a goofball.

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02:49:19

Or memes. Oh. Some memes They got us. They got us. Yeah. Memes are some of the best comedy out there. And it’s just random people create these funny things. There’s a lot of funny people out there.

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02:49:29

What’s amazing is we’ve gotten to where we can see the meme happen and predict the meme and the memes on your phone

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02:49:36

Yep.

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02:49:36

The next day. And you’re like Within hours. Oh, yeah.

Speaker: 0
02:49:39

They’re so quick. And memes are weird because a lot of times you don’t even know who made it. You’re sharing it. Somebody sends it to you. You send it to other people ai, who got who made that? Who’s the wizard that figured this out? This is fucking hilarious.

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02:49:50

It’s like a meme factory.

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02:49:53

Well, it’s like jokes. You remember jokes ai, you know, 2 guys walking to a bar? Those jokes, who fucking wrote those? We don’t know, but some of them were bangers.

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02:50:00

And they spread.

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02:50:01

They just spread speak across the whole country, but somebody had to be the guy that sat down and tells the story. 2 guys walking to a arya, and then, you know, and it’s everywhere.

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02:50:14

Well, I mean, there’s a 1,000,000 places we can go, but it’s you know, you look at yeah. I mean, the damn children, my kids. I mean, we’re yelling at them every day. Get up, get off the phone

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02:50:26

Yeah.

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02:50:26

Get ai. And they they do a good job, but, man, I I think it’s just it’s a part

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02:50:30

of it’s sai part of their deal. They’re being influenced by things far beyond our control, way different than anything that any other generation has ever experienced before.

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02:50:39

Like my son, he’s a 16 year old quarterback. And, man, he watches all these other quarterbacks on on, you know, hell, there are 14 recruiting, download sites from that that, and

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02:50:58

my son’s like, that dude right there is the greatest quarterback in the country. I said, well, how old is he, Beau? He’s 15, dad. I’m like, Beau,

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02:51:09

we don’t know what that little shit’s gonna be. What what are you talking about? He goes, well, daddy’s a 5 star and he’s 15. I’m like, Beau, your dad, when I moved to Nashville, I was a 1 star country singer. If I’d had a rating next to me and probability of me making it, yeah, Ai wouldn’t it would have been a 1 star.

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02:51:33

I worked myself into, hopefully, a 3 shah. Right. 3 star recruit. And he’s looking at me like I’m crazy. And so one of those kids, he he played them.

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02:51:46

Now ai son’s not starting. He’s backup quarterback to a great quarterback. And we played him and we beat him. We get down. He gets home after the game.

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02:51:55

I said, what’d you think about your, your little savior there? He goes,

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02:52:03

he’s still the greatest quarterback of all time.

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02:52:06

I said, Bo, he lost a fucking game. He’s 15. Just, son, let it let let’s let life happen before we anoint. Yeah.

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02:52:18

Just be inspired. Be inspired by other success, but don’t take it too seriously. And also ai that kid might start getting late and throw it all away.

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02:52:27

Exactly. He meh he don’t know what’s gonna you know?

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02:52:30

You’re 15. You don’t know what the fuck’s coming your way.

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02:52:32

And you don’t know one. Yeah.

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02:52:33

Yeah. You’re under some Russian chip in English class.

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02:52:37

Yeah. Some new Russian exchange student that that needs a that needs a English tutor.

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02:52:42

Yeah. Then all of a sudden, you don’t have any sperm left in your body. You’re dehydrated all day long.

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02:52:46

Yeah. You’re, yeah, you’re getting electrolytes on the sideline and

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02:52:49

You’re not doing any off season running or lifting. You’re busy. Also, people just they lose the focus, you know, and sometimes they get pushed too hard by their parents. There’s a little bit of that too. The kids rebel. They don’t sana do it anymore. Anything can happen. But that’s what’s fascinating about life is

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02:53:07

that it’s all open. Your daughters are, how old now?

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02:53:12

28, 16, and 14.

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02:53:14

Yeah. The 16 and 14, man.

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02:53:16

The 16 and 14 are going through a totally different experience. The TikTok all girls.

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02:53:20

The TikTok girls are girls are way I mean, I just

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02:53:24

They’re way more influenced in a

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02:53:26

negative way. My heart aches for for girls in this, in this.

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02:53:31

Well, there’s a there’s some alarming statistics about the growth of social media ram, like, 2,009 where you see girls, with self harm, also ai conditions, online bullying, because girls are fucking vicious to each other online. Boys will run into each other and punch each other in the face. Yeah. But girls will attack each other’s character and they’ll they’re reputation destroyers.

Speaker: 0
02:53:53

And they love to, like, make up stories about girls and be mean about girls and talk shit about the way girls look and the way girls dress and the guys girls are dating and they do it to each other and it’s just it’s unfortunate, but it’s that’s what gossip used to be. Gossip used to just be talking though. It’s like a normal thing where girls get around and talk, but now they talk online.

Speaker: 0
02:54:12

Sana And when they talk online, then other people read it like, and you’re ruining people’s lives. And you’re ruining little girls’ lives, and suicide is off the charts, and self harm is off the charts, and mostly young girls are getting affected

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02:54:25

by it. When you have when when I have my 14 year old go, dad, I’m anxious about this. I’m like, I didn’t know the word anxious.

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02:54:34

Right.

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02:54:36

I didn’t know the word anxious until I was 35 years old. Right?

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02:54:42

Right. Right. It wasn’t thought when we were kids and I It wasn’t

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02:54:45

processed as anxiety. It was processed as ai Life.

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02:54:49

Yeah. I’m Ai getting nervous.

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02:54:50

Yeah. Ai meh, yeah. Yeah. I got a big test. My stomach hurts. I gotta go take a shit.

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02:54:54

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Now it’s the thing they think about all the ai, and the problem with that is, Abigail Ai wrote a book about this. You focus on your problems, your problems oftentimes become bigger. When you think about things like anxiety, guess what? It makes you more anxious. Sai it doesn’t help it.

Speaker: 0
02:55:08

It it actually has the opposite effect. Yeah. It’s a weird world but they’re gonna be okay. We’re all

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02:55:16

gonna be okay.

Speaker: 0
02:55:16

We’re just gonna have to adjust and figure it out on the fly. It’s just this this adjustment is bigger than any adjustment that any generation has ever had to make before. But it’s also ai look at things like Oliver Anthony. Good comes out of it too.

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02:55:28

Yeah.

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02:55:29

You know, jelly roll. Jelly roll. Jesus. Love that dude. Best thing ever. He’s one of my favorite human beings ever. Best thing? He’s such a fucking sweetheart.

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02:55:39

Best thing ever.

Speaker: 0
02:55:40

When that guy sang that song, Save Me, and everybody was ai, what is going on? This this fucking ex con with tattoos on his face with a voice like an angel.

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02:55:49

Best thing ever.

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02:55:50

Incredible. But that’s this is all possible today too. So you got good and you got bad. It’s just you gotta navigate the waters. You gotta know where the rocks are. Steer that boat, young sailor.

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02:56:03

You know, and what amazes me is is, man, what breaks my heart is when people think they’re all alone in their thing that’s hanging up their life. Right. When you meet somebody and it’s all scaled way differently, like when you meh, you know, you know, I’ve had people, you know, you know, when you when you grow up in a country music band and you’re on the bus for hours with buddies and everybody go they got their own life and then, man, I’ve you ai out I had one band member almost kill himself over something that if he’d just had somebody say, man, I have that too.

Speaker: 0
02:56:49

Right. Right.

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02:56:51

And he would have not felt alone. Right. And and people have gotta quit, like, thinking that they’re the only ones that have Gone through some shit. Gone through this thing.

Speaker: 0
02:57:04

Yeah. Well, that’s why you need people that you love. Yeah. That’s why you need friends.

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02:57:08

Sai, my household my household was a man we sat at the dinner table and dude, it it it came out.

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02:57:14

That’s good.

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02:57:17

And then but my wife’s household was meh, they, you know Bottled it up. They bottled it up and it all worked. And we don’t know who came out better. But but me and my wife, you know, we we work on, like, you know, we work on, ai, I mean, like, my wife never saw her mama, like, in the shower, like, just showering, you know, like, walk through the house naked.

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02:57:44

I mean, hell, we had one bathroom. It was like, we’re a bunch of damn naked idiots running around trying to get to the bathroom. And my my wife’s like, yeah. My mama did not shower with the door open. And I’m like or and I’m like, really? She’s like I’m like, you’re kidding me.

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02:57:59

Never once. I’m like,

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02:58:01

just That’s kinda crazy.

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02:58:02

Everybody’s Well,

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02:58:03

when you have daughters, there’s a certain amount of time where you can’t be naked in front of them anymore.

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02:58:08

Once they hit, like, 4

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02:58:09

or 5 years old, you’re like, okay. That’s sai wrap.

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02:58:11

Ai my 16 year old, so my beard we’re we’re living in our guest house right now because we’re doing some some work to our main house. You know, we’re our main house had stuff that just kept happening we were like we’re moving out and when we move back in have it all fixed sai we got 3 we got a 22 year old a 16 year old living in the same house when my wife stored all of my all of my bathroom stuff it’s in a it’s in a box somewhere, all my shaving gear.

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02:58:38

I run into my son’s bathroom, my 16 year old, and I grabbed his beard trimmer. I grabbed a I grabbed this fucking trimmer sitting there, and I shaved my beard, and I’m all up under my nose. And

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02:58:50

You smell ball hair? No.

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02:58:53

I get in my truck, and I’m driving down the road. My son gets home from school ai, laughing. What? Dad, you shaved your beard with my ball trimmers? And I was like, you little shit. First of all, I’m like, what in the hell? 16 year old manscaping? What the fuck’s going on?

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02:59:24

It’s a new world.

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02:59:25

Ai know. I’m like, dude, I never imagined you had I don’t even think he’s you know, whatever. These damn it’s so fun, man. These kids my dad my my god. It’s so amazing. Dude, we, you know, we were elk hunting, meh. And, my 14 year old, we we got this really cool. When we go elk hunt, we got to wade across the river to get to our elk spot.

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02:59:50

And the 1st couple of years, man, we didn’t, we just stripped down to our underwear and and hung our boots and all our gear and walked underwear and, dude, it was kinda ai, we’re really meh, you know?

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03:00:07

Right.

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03:00:07

And so Tate and Beau Beau, the first ai, I would put him on my shoulders and walk them. Well, then after 2 years, we were like, dude, let’s go by and get, like, 8 pairs of waiters and sai them on the bank and we’ll leave the waiters and everybody’s like that’s a damn good idea I’m like yeah I mean how many years it take y’all to understand go get some damn waiters sai Tate for the past the last 3 years I’ve I’ve towed them across the river and man I looked at him the last day of the hunt and this was Tate Tate’s year to ai to get an elk and he actually dad Ai kind of messed up the elk hunt Ai moved and spooked the elk which was great because he realized that just because you’re Luke Bryan’s son, you don’t get the damn elk.

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03:00:54

But and, I said, hey. Ai said, I wanna touch you across the river. I said, you’re growing, and this probably the last year. So I towed him across the river. And then on the way back, he goes, hey, dad. I wanna wait it by myself.

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03:01:10

And, man, he he you don’t realize how much your kids really are watching you, but we’re sitting on the bank, and he’s watching meh, and I sit my bow down. And he takes his bow and sits it down and he watches everything I do and it was cutest thing ever. I haven’t even told my wife.

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03:01:29

So every year Ai take my boots and I tie them in a knot and I and I hang them and throw them over my because we’re toting gear and Ai throw my boots over my shoulders so they’re not they don’t get wet and meh I looked at him and he he’s sitting there tying his little string he stands up those in boots and he just man, watching your kids just absorb it is just, you know, it’s pretty damn special.

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03:01:55

Like you’re having a beautiful life, my friend.

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03:01:57

Well, it’s It really does. Kids make it.

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03:02:02

It really does. It really does. Luke, thank you very much, man. This is a lot of fun.

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03:02:06

I hope we,

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03:02:07

how long was that? More than 3 hours.

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03:02:10

Was it? Yeah. Yeah.

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03:02:12

Holy shit. Yeah. It’s 4:30. 3 hours. There it is. Mind of a country boy. Listen or download now. Look at you, you handsome bastard. Well Fucking tight jeans. Look at you.

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03:02:23

In tight jeans. Everybody hates me.

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03:02:27

They don’t hate you, man. Just don’t read the ones that do.

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03:02:30

No. Shit.

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03:02:31

Appreciate you, brother. Thank you

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03:02:32

very much. Ai.

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03:02:33

Love you too. Love you too. Bye, everybody ai.

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