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#2214 – Shane Smith Podcast Episode Description
Shane Smith is a journalist, executive, and co-founder of VICE Media. Look for his new video podcast series, “VICE News: The Truth?,” coming soon.
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#2214 – Shane Smith Podcast Episode Summary
In this podcast episode, the host discusses the format and approach of their podcast, which involves engaging in long-form conversations with a variety of guests, ranging from well-known figures to lesser-known individuals who are deeply involved in specific topics. The host emphasizes the importance of exploring diverse subjects, including social media trends, memes, AI, conspiracy theories, and significant issues like immigration. The goal is to delve into these topics to uncover underlying philosophies and facts, even if the answers are complex or unsatisfactory.
The host mentions a notable guest, Peter Dale Scott, whose insights were particularly impactful. The podcast aims to be a platform for open dialogue, encouraging curiosity and questioning, rather than dismissing unconventional ideas. The host expresses a desire to understand and discuss topics that are often overlooked or misunderstood, advocating for a culture of inquiry.
A recurring theme is the value of authentic conversations that resonate with listeners, contrasting with heavily produced content. The host believes that the success of podcasts lies in their conversational nature, which allows for genuine exploration of ideas.
Actionable insights include the encouragement to remain curious, ask questions, and engage with a wide range of perspectives. The host also highlights the importance of not being dismissive of unconventional ideas and the value of digging deeper into complex issues.
Overall, the episode conveys a message of curiosity, open-mindedness, and the pursuit of understanding through conversation. The host’s approach is to create a space where diverse topics can be explored in depth, fostering a culture of inquiry and dialogue.
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#2214 – Shane Smith Podcast Episode Transcript (Unedited)
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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Showing my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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What’s up?
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How are
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you? Good to see you. Good to see you. What you’ve
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been up to, man?
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That’s a loaded question. I’m doing, I’m doing a podcast now.
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You are doing a podcast ai? Yeah. Yeah. When did you start? Yeah.
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Yeah. Couple months ago. What what
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made you sana do that? Just got tired of being on the sai, looking in?
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That’s a good that’s so that’s it. Yeah. You know, it’s you actually I I’m gonna I’m gonna paraphrase you, so you gotta tell me the exact quote.
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Okay.
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But you said, COVID was a fucked up ai, and I went in thinking that vaccines were the the the pinnacle of human technology and came out thinking that the moon landing wasn’t real, Michelle Obama was gonna sana another and I was like,
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shah was me.
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Yeah. Like, during COVID, I was ai I became obsessed with social media and and acts and, like, just looking at shit and whatever. And I’m like, you know, what’s true? What’s not true? Like, what’s what like, because everybody’s speaking so forcibly. This is one one question I wanted to ask you is you talk to all these dudes all the time.
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One of the things I missed, like, I would be I would be talking to people and be ai, oh, this is going off sai then. I’ll be like, oh, I was just there. That’s not what’s happening or, you know, this is happening. He was in Iraq. Oh, I was just I love talking to people. I love meeting people, and I love sort of knowing stuff. Like, you can just say, well, I’m gonna go there.
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I’m gonna figure it out. Right. So I saw all this stuff on social media and I
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was
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like, wow. You know, there’s all this stuff, ai, but no one’s really going after it and saying, like, as an investigative journalist saying, what’s real, what’s not real, what’s true, what’s not true.
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Right.
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You are. Well, there’s a
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few people doing it. Yeah. They’re all investigative journalists. They’re they’re all independent. They’re all completely outside of any kind of Washington Post Which is great. Times. Yeah. That’s the only
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way to do it.
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It’s impossible to exist in mainstream media and be legitimate now. There’s gonna be A 100%. There’s gonna be guardrails. There’s gonna be
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A 100%.
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Yeah. There’s there’s no
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way. Talk to everybody and I that must be fascinating because you get the inside ram, ai, your brain is like a wealth of information.
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Yeah. It’s it’s like, I had a an unexpected education. Yeah. You know, like an unanticipated, unplanned education in all sorts of things. Yeah.
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And these guys are super interesting and you’re you get to learn and that’s
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amazing. It’s pretty amazing. Yeah. I mean, you learn a lot of bullshit too. Ai, some of the stuff you learned is not true.
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Well, that’s the problem. Yeah. I got a question. Yeah. Bobby Kennedy seems to be, like, so ai, he like, so fast. Like, I remember Mhmm. I used to watch Tony Blair during question period, and he’d, like, leap up and he’d be like, blah blah blah. And he was so like, he knew everything and the facts and stuff. Like, you’ve interviewed him a bunch of ai?
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Or
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I’ve I’ve talked to him many times. Ai.
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Is he that good in person?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He’s legit. I mean, he was an environmental attorney.
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Yeah. No.
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Yeah. That was his background. And, you know, he’s had a I mean, a crazy life. Imagine you’re 14 years old and your Yeah. Yeah. Your dad gets killed Yeah. By who knows?
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Who knows? But ai might be the government, you know. That’s that’s my first episode. Yeah. Assassinations, deep state.
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Mhmm.
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Getting into it.
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Well, it’s a real thing, you know. I don’t know who’s doing it or what faction or how small the amount of people are Yeah. That are involved in it. I mean, imagine if you’re ai a legitimate person working for the CIA and you think that the CIA is trying to assassinate Trump and you’re like, what the fuck?
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You know, or or whoever.
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That’s our first episode.
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It’s gotta be I mean, it’s gotta be a small faction of intelligence agencies that wanna do things. Ai like how many people do you think were involved in the Kennedy assassination?
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So there’s a guy named Peter Dale Scott who actually wrote the book on the deep state and brought, like, the concept over from Turkey to here and broke it. And if you talk to him so he was really involved or wrote about or covered the they tried to assassinate Castro. That was the 1st American deep state thing, which is like by the way, it’s that’s that’s factual.
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That’s like
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Oh, yeah.
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There were the mob and Cubans and the Ai, and they tried to commit.
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Many ai, they tried to kill him.
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They and it failed.
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Yeah.
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And then, you know, that sort of morphed, and there’s all this sort of mix into the Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, Robert RFK, assassination attempts that this guy was referencing. And you’re just ai, deep state has such negative connotation to it because it’s like conspiracy ish.
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But you’re like when it when it got explained to me by the guys who sort of coined the terms, which is, you know, like there’s this intelligence agencies or the Pentagon career bureaucrats ram, by the way, go back and forth. It’s a rotating door. They go to Raytheon. They go to Boeing. They go all the and they get the contract, 1,000,000,000 of dollars. Mhmm.
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And they act in cahoots with each other. And you’re ai, yeah, that makes total fucking sense. Of course.
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Like the It’s business relationship.
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Business relationship. And then if they have something that needs to happen, you have all kinds of people who will do that thing for you. Yes. So it it’s not ai yeah. Exactly. It’s not bureaucrats in the
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Yeah. Sana probably It could literally be one guy who’s a top executive
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Or a 100.
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Or, you know, a few people that come to a conclusion and don’t even have to say it. And then a plan gets hatched. Yeah. And then next thing you know, there’s a guy ai a roof. Yeah.
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We’re already into
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Yeah.
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I can just see the fucking tweets up here. Fuck the tweets. But it it but for sure, like, it’s like I found that fascinating. Not only so I started doing, like, the snipers.
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Mhmm.
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We got the ai. Fascinating dude. He has the longest confirmed kill, 3.5 kilometers. So we started just talking technical shit.
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Mhmm. And
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you’re like, okay. Could it be done? And the ai like, what do the snipers have to say? And then we got to the head of the the guy who trained all the secret service people, and we got that actually, we got Trump’s head of security for 18 years. Personal head of security guy. First time he ever talked. He was a great great ai, Keith Schiller.
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And then, we got into it, and then everyone started talking about the deep state, deep state. And what the fuck is the deep state? Like, I know what the deep state people think is. That’s the other thing is ai, everyone has so many givens.
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Right.
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You know, like in math, one plus one, it doesn’t give it. So there’s so many givens. You’re like, well, let’s look at the givens. Like, what is the deep state? So I met I literally went after the guy who coined the phrase, and he’s like and I’m like, oh, yeah. That sounds completely I mean, I know those guys. Like, that sounds completely believable. And then so when you believe that, then you start saying, okay.
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Well, how do these things look? Like, what do they look like?
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Mhmm. It
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was fascinating. But, I mean, look. I I might end all this stuff, and then you’re you’re there, like, all day every day doing it. It must be it’s fascinating. I love it. So that so I did get sick in my long winded answer. I did get sick of being on the outside looking at
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it.
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It is fascinating, but I like the way I do it because I I get to talk to anybody I want to. Like, I don’t have to just deal with things that are disturbing.
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Yeah.
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I can, you know, talk to someone who’s a beekeeper. Ai can talk to someone who, you know, makes cabinets, like Ai.
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You made you made your own empire which is fucking awesome.
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Well, it’s just what I’m interested in. Yeah. It just happens to be that a lot of people are interested in these things. Yeah. So it’s lucky. And it’s also because I’m actually interested in it, I don’t have to have fake conversations.
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Yeah.
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Ai, there’s no one I have on where I’m ai, I
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can’t believe I’m talking to them. Right.
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You know, like, well, you see that. Right? You see that in, like, late night talk shows. They don’t wanna be interviewing this person.
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It’s too much.
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When you started Vice, it was one of the most refreshing news sources because it was ai these intelligent people that didn’t seem like regular journalists. They seem like just people that you Yeah.
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Because they weren’t. Yeah. Well, they were just people Right.
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They seem like normal people Yeah. And yet all of a sudden they’re wearing a flak jacket in a war zone. Yeah. They seem like normal people and they’re hanging out in a hot tub in Thailand.
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That was it. It’s like it was normal people that were interested like Yeah.
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Vice guy to travel, that one with,
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Heinmo’s, ai to travel, that one with, Heinmo’s Arctic Adventures Yeah. That is till today one of my favorite videos you guys everyday. I fucking love
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that story because it’s amazing.
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You’ve got this
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guy that lives in, you know The most remote human. Yeah. Ai, in this tiny cabin, he’s been there since ai seventies. Yeah. He doesn’t even he saw ai in a photograph. That’s all he knows about it. He doesn’t have any television up there. Yeah. He gets VHS tapes occasionally and watches them on a tiny TV. Yeah.
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And he just lives in this subsistence lifestyle tyler fishing and hunting and and living off the land and an intelligent interesting Smart guy. Articulate ai. You know, and he seems way happier than most people I know.
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For sure. Yeah. He was the most remote human until we found those people in Russia and then, like, Siberia who had run from Stalin and this family who had gone up into the mountains and just lived there for, like, 80 years Woah. By themselves, like, made shoes out of bark and, like, totally self sustaining up in the mountains of Siberia.
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Like, they thought that, you know, they didn’t know about the moon landing. They didn’t know about, like What what kind of gene pool do they have? Not a lot. I think there was a lot of Inbreeding.
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Yeah. Oh, god. Yeah. How many people were there?
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I don’t know. You can look I don’t know. It’s like, there was 6 when they found him, I think, and one was, like, 80 who was the youngest or something.
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Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Crazy story
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though. Yeah. So they ran from Stalin just just stayed alive.
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They thought Stalin was, like, you know, still there. Oh meh god. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just funny.
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You can’t name a kid Adolf, but you can name a kid Joseph.
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There you go.
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Ain’t that weird? No. It’s a little weird. Joseph was too common.
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Yeah. Joseph’s very common.
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But wasn’t Adolf really common with the the Germans?
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I don’t know. Maybe. I don’t know. I mean, Joseph Joseph is Joe Joseph is everywhere. I know. I mean That’s like a Ai.
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Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. No Adolf in the ai. So No. Didn’t make the cut.
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Didn’t make the cut.
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But when you guys were, you know, when it was young, it was ai it was new Internet. Right? Because Internet opened up a bunch of different possibilities and it opened up possibilities for legitimate independent journalism and legitimate independent thinkers who were really disconnected from the sort of stiff stuffy mainstream perspective of what’s going on in ai.
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And you guys gave you meh you guys gave a completely unfiltered perspective as a normal human who’s experiencing these bizarre circumstances in these exotic lands. And it was awesome, man. It was awesome. And then now it’s this bizarre propaganda machine that’s ideologically captured to the point where it’s preposterous.
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Like, they say things that are just so outlandish and so not in tune with logic or objectivity. It’s it’s so strange to see going from what you made to what it is now.
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Yeah. Look, I mean, I could get into the the nuances which are many and and and boring. But, basically, what happens is, you know, and I I actually called it from the beginning. I said, look, we’re gonna get too big. And at that point, we’re gonna become the thing that we’re we’re ai we were a challenger ram. And we’re gonna become the status quo.
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And then we’re gonna get our asses kicked, a. B, I said, look, all Internet is now consolidating and and media is consolidating and everybody’s consolidating because they have to because there’s the big ai are taking all the money. And we knew it was coming, but it came like look. I’ll tell you another thing. In media, you know, there’s not a lot of people picking shit.
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Like, you get to speak shit because you run your own shop. You’re you’re the meh. But, like, when you run media, it’s ai people put on what people watch. That’s the rule. Like, you just put on shit and people watch it.
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And then, like, if you say I wanna do this and nobody watches it, then you don’t get to say I wanna do this that often. So and we always had a thing where we gave the company over to the interns. If we just stayed a Meh X free giveaway, we would have never gotten into video.
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In fact, when we got into video, we were derided by the old guys for selling out because going to online video was seen as a sellout because we were should have stayed a magazine. So we used to give it over to the interns. And then the interns just they had a different fucking everything. They had a different philosophy. They had different subject.
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They had different fucking everything. And they were going and ai the way, the traffic was still there. And I was the same. I was looking at you. What the fuck is this? Right. The fuck is going on? And, you know, they’re like, well, that’s the traffic. And you’re fucking things that you like.
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It’s no traffic because you’re an old man. So anyway, I was semi retired for a number of years. And, you know, look
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When did you get out?
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I moved to LA, ai trying to remember now, 15? 15, 16, around there? So I moved to LA because our biggest, clients were there. The biggest platforms were there. No one was out there. And, you know, I had kids, and I was ai, okay. Like, I can move to the country and commute into New York, or I can move to LA.
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So I moved to LA and and that started a whole that was, you know, that was not smart in retrospect because you leave and it starts like Game of Thrones shit. And Mhmm. And then also, quite frankly, if you wanna know the metaphysical fucking reasons why, I can get into it.
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Okay. Alright. I love metaphysical.
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Sai there you go. What the best time for Vice, the time that you’re talking about, the time that I loved was, you know, you would go before all the big investors and everything, you would go to, like, Italy. Right? Mhmm. And you would get an apartment, and, you know, you get a girlfriend, and you find an office, and you hire people that look like you, or hang out like you, or just circle or whatever.
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And you would build it. You would buy the fucking computers on your credit card, and you would fucking go to the grandmother’s place for fucking lunch in. You would, like, fucking, you know, figure out all the cool places to hang out with you with your friends and stuff. And then you’d have a big party and everyone would come and ai would be launched.
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Then you meh on a train and go to Sweden and do the same thing. You’d live there for 6 months. You’d build something. It was tangible. The mag would come out. You’d start shooting stuff. And it would be fucking awesome.
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And then when it got to be ai you fly in and you meet with lawyers and accountants and it’s shit, and then you fly out again the next day, it’s terrible. Right? Right. And so when that happened, I was like, Ai sana do this anymore. And I’m not good at it. Like, I was good at building.
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I’m good at building. I’m good at like, founders are not necessarily operators.
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Right.
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Right. One of the smart things you’ve done is, like, just keep your own shit your own shit. And I got you know, my eyes are too big for my stomach in a way because you’re just like, ai keep going.
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Fucking dope. The big thing too is keep it small.
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Keep it small, dude.
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Keep it small. Like, it’s just me and Jamie, and we have a video editor that’s not even local. He just gets it on the Internet.
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And also Jamie has super good vibes which is
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Yeah. No. He’s the best. But it’s it’s the most important. I have friends that have big podcasts and they have ai this huge staff. Yeah. And they have all these people running around. I’m like, what do all these people do? And it’s like they want this feeling of they’re the boss of a bunch of employees. Yeah.
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For some reason, ai, they want all these production people that are creating content.
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Yeah.
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But then you have interoffice conflicts and they’re always putting out fires and people are complaining and then people leave and make videos talking about what a piece of shit boss you were. And it’s ai, hey, man, you’re you’re dealing in this thing where there’s currency in that information. There’s currency for these these mediocre people.
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So you you you hire these mediocre people, and these mediocre people attack you because there’s currency in attacking you, but you didn’t need them in the first place. This whole thing was stupid. Like, you’re making a little bit more money, but you have more problems. But you don’t notice that money.
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Like, you have to pay attention to what you notice. Right? What whatever the fuck you have in your bank account, if you’re if you’re a fairly wealthy person and you have a $100 more, a $100 less, a $1,000 more, $1,000 less, you don’t notice it. But Ai tell you what you do notice. You notice hassle. You notice problems. Those problems are worth a lot of money to get rid of.
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Like, if you had a bunch of employees, like, fuck. What can I do? There’s so many people. It’s so annoying. God, I wish we were small again.
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Getting back to small again is a grind. You gotta fire people. It’s a you gotta downsize. You gotta figure out how to do it. That’s a mess, man.
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You don’t want that mess. So that extra money that you got by making things too big, you fucked yourself. You got greedy. You you looked at it the wrong like, someone said to me, like, I was in the park on the comedy store. This friend of mine ai not even very successful was ai, I’m, trying to find a new assistant. I go, why do you need a new assistant?
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He goes, you don’t have an assistant? I go, no. I go, this is what you do. Do less shit. If you need an assistant, you’re doing too many things.
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Do less shit. Don’t get a fucking assistant. You have an assistant, you have what happens to David Spade? The guy shows up with duct tape and a taser and tries to kill you. Remember that? Yeah. Because they wind up resenting you.
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Yeah.
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Because if you got some person who’s working for you, he’s making $50,000 a year and you’re making you have $50,000,000, they wanna kill you.
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After a while,
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they’re like, I’m a part of this too. You know? Like, they don’t think of it as this is a great job. This job could eventually lead to something bigger. People get resentful. Also, the type of people that are 34 years old, they’re working as an assistant, probably a little fucked up, probably made some mistakes, probably, you know, not really on the right path in life.
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Now, suddenly, you’re connected at the hip to this person. Yeah.
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And
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then they sana tell you about their problems and maybe got an x ai or maybe they got this. And if they’re making more money, then they’re gonna make more money. And so you’ve you’ve you’ve because you wanted to appear like you have a everybody wants a big organization. Yeah. Like, Vice is big now. Yeah.
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You know, the JRE, we have about 1,000 employees worldwide. We have 3 employees.
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Yeah. Smart. The you know, Harvard should hire you to teach business because that is a 100% of
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no. I’m just saying No. That’s this business.
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But listen, this is so fucking right. Like, you just said what’s in my fucking brain. Like, it’s that a 100% of that is true. Everyone should listen to this guy because it is a 100 fucking percent true. When you’re younger run
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a tight ship.
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You’re running tight. Exactly. But you’re when you’re younger, you’re like, oh, fuck. And look, you know, a fucking punk kid that came from nothing. And sai, like, when you have employees, there’s this there is actually a Harvard thing where they say there’s a there’s a there’s a paradox where you hire somebody because you wanna have someone to help you, but they’re not as good as you.
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And you hire someone who’s not as good as you, and then you hire someone who’s not as good as them. So then all this stuff, and you have to do more work. There’s more hassles. Then you have a whole group of people reporting to you, and this is exactly not our own business. And I even knew that going in.
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And then you hire and you’re exactly right. And you hire all these people. All Sai need to do is be in the same room as you. Yeah. And then that’s access. And once there’s access, then you’re exactly what you sai.
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Then you deal with their issues.
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And you deal with everything.
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Shane, can I ai you aside for a second? There’s a project that my friend and I are working on. I’d really like to get you involved. Yeah.
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Oh. But, yeah, Ai know. It got too it it definitely got too big, and you’re exactly right. Like, look, you’re a ai dude because, like, you keep it small. You’re exactly right. That’s like after having learned what I’ve learned, like, we have a tiny little team that makes this thing.
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And it’s super like, it’s like the early days of Ai where you’re just you’re just making shit and talking to people and chopping it up and doing stuff and trying new shit out and do it. Well, one week it’ll be like this and the other week it’ll be like that and we’ll just fucking do everything. It’s so much more fucking fun.
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You’re a 100% right.
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Yeah. Fun is the most important thing. Ai, if you Brian Cowell said this to me once and it’s sai really great advice. He goes the he goes, all you really want is to be able to go to a restaurant and not worry about what things cost. Yeah. Everything else is bullshit.
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A 100%.
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It’s true. Everything else is bullshit.
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A 100%.
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You get used to cars, you get used to houses, like, I I realized, like, early on, I got an apartment when I lived in North Hollywood. It’s ai the first nice apartment I ai, but after I was in it a couple of weeks, it was just my house. Yeah. Just like the house I have now. It’s not that much different. It’s just like your home. Okay. Great. What do you need? You need a couch?
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You need a TV? You need a bedroom? You need a kitchen? That’s all you need. Hopefully, it doesn’t stink. Hopefully, it doesn’t suck. Hopefully, your neighbors aren’t loud.
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Hopefully, it would be nice if you have a view. That’s cute. But other than that
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I’ll go a step further than that. Is you you I don’t know about you, but you accumulate shit. Right?
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And I
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because I never had anything. I was ai, Sai I’m fucking I got into watches, you know, I got into shah. I got into art. Then I got, like, I don’t even fucking drive. And I got ai, I got Johnny Cash’s fucking car ai 1969.
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What kind of car is that?
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So in 1969, Johnny Cash had a the number one show in Meh. And ABC got him a one of a kind Rolls Royce extra long body, all all black black mahogany interior. Oh. And check this out. So, I got so it was me and Wayne Newton. Bidding. Meh, I used to gamble. So I was in Vegas, won a bunch of money.
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I was actually I had to fly to China, and my buddy stayed there. And it was me me and Wayne Newton, bidding against, each other for for Johnny Cash’s car. And, and when we got it, you know, it was just was ai burning fucking fuel oil. It’s just black smoke coming out. Oh, they’re terrible.
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So I I turned it into a Tesla.
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And I
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know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s fucking awesome, dude. It’s awesome. We chopped it. It’s turned into it’s we kept everything with Where is this?
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Is it online? Can I see this thing?
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You can see yeah. Yeah.
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Did you put it online?
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No. But there there’s a picture you know, I’ll just show it to you.
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Can you send it to Jamie so we can see it?
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Just pull up Johnny Cash’s Rolls Royce, 1969. It’s a black all black Rolls Royce. So I turned it into a Tesla, redid the whole interior, fucking Who
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did that for you?
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I’d have to get the fucking the name. That’s it.
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Oh, look at that. Yeah. Yeah. What would Johnny Ai? Yeah. About his Rolls Royce getting
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I think he’d fucking love it because I was out with Rick Rubin in that car yesterday.
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But that’s Johnny Cash, not Johnny Arya.
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Johnny Cash.
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Right. Didn’t you say Johnny Carson?
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No. Johnny Cash.
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You said he had the number one show on TV?
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Yeah. The Johnny Cash Variety Hour.
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Oh meh god. I thought you said Johnny Carson.
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No. ABC gave him this arya, and and yeah. Had it made into I was with Rick Rubin in that yesterday. We were driving around in it. It’s and it it drive it’s so fucking fast, and it drives like a fucking crazy boat.
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Wow. You
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sana come out now. Yeah. Drive it. Fuck it.
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It’s awesome. So you took a Tesla Model sai and converted it. Yeah. These are
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the dudes who did it. Wow. And we redid all that wood now, so it’s all the original black mahogany from
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from
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So when the batteries go bad, you can just swap the batteries out.
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Just plug it in. No. You just plug it in.
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No. But eventually, the batteries will deteriorate to the point where you’ll get really low mileage. You probably get low mileage already. Right? Like, that thing’s heavy
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as shit. It’s heavy as shit. Yeah.
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God, that’s beauty. You must have to upgrade the brakes in a big way. Right? Because it’s very heavy. Yeah. Fucking beautiful car, though.
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It’s such a good car. Because when I came out to LA, I’m like, I’m gonna get a shit bryden Agatha Christie Rolls Royce and an MS 13 driver with, like, the full 13 and, like, a safety cruiser. Am I late for the party? Ai. And so and so I got this one, and I’m just it’s fucking awesome.
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Wow. That’s so cool. Yeah. They’re doing there’s you ever heard of a company called Everati? Yeah. They’re
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They they do the electric the swapovers?
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Yeah. They do swapovers for I know they do Porsches. Ai think they do a Mustang as well. Yeah. But they take these classic cars. It’s so good. The problem is, like, you you’re not supposed to do that.
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You’re not supposed to do it. This thing is fucked though. I I will say this.
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I don’t have any desire to have one of these things, but I think they’re dope as fuck.
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They’re
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dope as fuck. Like, but
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the thing is ai for me, I see that. Oh, that’s disgusting. Get that off the screen. I see that that does disturb you to know when you took a GT 40 and turned it electric. The thing about those old cars is the mechanical feel and that is 90% of the experience of driving one of those old cars.
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Well, this car barely ai. Like, the it was fucked. Yeah.
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But you could rest o’Mod.
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You could rest o’Mod. Anyway, I love the
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The thing is, like, they’re supposed to have I I could see doing it with Johnny Cash’s car. It’s ai funny. But you you do into that, you should go to jail. Yeah. You do that to a g t forty, you should go right to jail.
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What’s the
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horsepower as it is?
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It’s pretty great. Well, not really. Originally, you know, this is the this is Ferrari versus Ford. This is the original car. I actually have the next version of that, which is the Ford GT. I have one of the 2,005 ones that’s a stick shift. Yeah. Ai I feel like if you drive a car like that, you have to drive a manual. The can only go sai a 160 ai. Right.
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And that’s if you’re driving like sai grandma, but it has 800 horsepower. It’s probably fast as shit. Yeah. You know, electric cars are different than any other car in terms of the speed that you meh. Yeah. The the way it feels to just go whoosh. Yeah.
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But there’s no sound. Yeah. There’s part of that car is that’s that car. It’s ai that car is, like, visceral. It’s exciting.
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There’s a there’s an an engine behind you. It’s ai, let’s go baby. Come on, Shane.
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You love it.
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You feel in the turns. You wanna feel the bumps. You wanna feel the fucking steering in your hand, the wiggling of the tires. Yeah. It’s a ride. It’s not efficient. It’s not supposed to be efficient. It’s an experience. It’s a sensory overload. It’s not just transportation.
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Yeah.
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That’s why turning one of those things into electric is
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I did
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it because it was burning fuel. It was burning black ai. Barely fucking ran.
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That car is fine. Yeah. That car is
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So so
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so is fine.
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So so did so I love it. But the thing my long winded answer to that question was Ai I started I collected all this shit and, like, you were saying, it doesn’t bring you any fucking ai, maybe cars where you could ai. So I just go, you know what? All of that shit I was talking to Rick about this too. Like, I’m just I’m just gonna get rid of it.
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Like, the more I free myself from that shit and all that stuff Yes. You’re just like, you know what? Sai burden. I used to go speaking of the old days of Ai, I had everyone used to laugh because I go for literally years with a backpack. And Ai just be like, well, I can ai all I’d wear is black jeans and a black t shirt.
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Like, I would just buy new ones if I need something. I just go to a pharmacy. One of my to this day, I like, if I go to a fucking pharmacy in a foreign country, I’m stoked. Because it means I’m getting shit that I need, like, shampoo and fucking toothpaste and that little scissors from my nose hairs and shit.
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And that means, like, I’m on top of my game. I’m fucking ready to go. I meh to fucking interview people and do shah. Right. Because I’m gone to the fucking pharmacy.
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And and and, you know, to I love going to a fucking supermarket because you’re just ai, I’m gonna buy some fucking food and then we’re gonna go do some work and it’s gonna be fucking awesome. That shah gives me pleasure. Yeah. Fucking a watch or a fucking Yeah. A car or shoes or fucking nothing.
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Yeah. Most of those, they’re cool. They’re cool. I’m I’m interested in engineering and and artwork. Right? And I like, that’s why I have so much art in this place. Sai love people’s expression.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like cars are artwork. That’s how I view cars.
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Sure.
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Especially old cars.
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Yeah.
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I have a lot of old cars and those old, ai, some
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big cars ai
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Muscle cars. Oh, ai cars. 19 sixties to early 19 seventies muscle cars. That’s what I love. I love them. I love them. I drive them like they’re just it’s like I’m sana amusement park ride.
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Ai, yeah.
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That’s how I feel about them. And I just when I was a kid, those were the cars that everybody wanted. So to meh, it’s like I get a real joy out of those. But if I didn’t have them, I’d be fine. Yeah. If I just drove my Tesla to work every day, I would be fine. Like the level of happiness you get in terms of of ai how much you have to work for some things, it’s not worth it. It’s not worth it.
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Too many people strive for this thing that doesn’t give you anything back.
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Yeah.
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It’s just this thing that’s hard. Just because something’s hard to get Yeah. Doesn’t mean it’s good to
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get. Yeah.
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And there’s a lot of things that people strive for that are difficult to achieve, but they’re not valuable when you get there.
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No. And it is speaking of ai, yeah, like you talk about old muscle cars. The the car I learned to drive was my grandmother’s car that she gave to my cousin. And when I was 13, he was 16 or something, and he taught me how to drive. And it was a Nova Sai. Like, it was an old, like, fucking
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I have one.
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So so good.
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I have a 69.
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It’s so beautiful.
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I have a 69 that has been completely redone by this guy Speak Strope.
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So nice.
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And it’s, it’s the craziest Nova ever. This sana this one’s incredible
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because it’s understated. Restomod. It’s understated. It’s not like it’s a powerful beast sana it’s badass looking, but it’s not like not like a Ai. Like, you know, Ferraris can be beautiful. It’s different. It’s different. Yeah.
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It’s it’s a different flex. Yeah. You know, the the Ferrari, you just have money. That’s my that’s a Nova.
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That’s it.
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That’s mine. That’s my 69 Nova.
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I love it.
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Look at that. Fuck.
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That’s ai exactly hers was gold. I still remember that.
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Ai is like it’s got 1969 Camaro Fenders. Yeah. So they they made it, like, wider sai they could fit larger tires and tubbed it out. Yeah. It’s all custom and has a supercharged L24.
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That’s what what her engine did not look like that.
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Yeah. That’s a it’s a very efficient driving car, but it’s just so fun. Yeah. It’s just like you drive that thing, it’s just this experience of sounds and and to me it’s like those cars are the ones that resonate with meh.
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Yeah.
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You know, so I have but if I only had one, I would be fine. I just like them every now and then, but they’re not they’re not the thing. They’re not the end all be all. They’re not family, friends, love, community. There’s always things that people put those objects above. They put above everything in your life.
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You strive for that thing because it’s a symbol of success. Yeah. And it’s nonsense.
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So I had a speaking of psychological damage as for things, I, grew up poor about when I was a very rich girl, and it was her birthday. Right? We’re in France. It was her birthday. And her uncle had forgotten her birthday. And so he’s just ai, oh, here, you know, take my watch kind of thing.
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And they’re like, no. No. No. Like, you know, that watch is ai $50,000 watch or whatever. And I was like, there’s no fucking watches worth $50,000. Ai, $50,000.
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Ai, that ai. Shah? And it was like a classic Patek fucking Moonphase, whatever. And I remember clocking the watch. And when I got money, I became obsessed with the classic Patek, which is now ai $500, not ram, the Moonphase.
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And,
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That’s so crazy that a watch is $500,000.
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Oh, some of them are ai $5,000,000. I mean Isn’t
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that nuts?
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Yes. And
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so Like those Richard Millet watches?
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Yeah. I mean, the the the most expensive are still Patek. But, yeah, like, ai the those ones are I mean, rare ones. Like, I I was obsessed with so I like the Paul Newman Panda, but they have, like, the lemon or the champagne panda, which is the gold version of that, which which they made, like, 4 of.
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And I want I was chasing that down. And now I’m ai, what the fuck? You can’t fucking wear it. Right. Like, every place I go, you can’t fucking wear ai. Like Sai was fine here and you can’t put it through security.
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You know, so what the fuck you what
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the fuck is Why can’t you put it through security?
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Ai think
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You think
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they would snatch it?
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Oh, watches get snatched all the time.
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Yeah. But then, you know, where’s my watch?
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Yeah.
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It’s just ai it goes through the little thing. Yeah. Like, how fast do you see the
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building meh the watches? Has not happened to me. Although, I have nearly lost them many times because, you know, you get you have a few ales on the plane and take your shit off and
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put it in the
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box and then something.
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Oh, no.
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I’ve never done it, but Sai I it’s been close calls, but there’s so many stories in the watch world about you’re going through customs, you’re going through security, you’re going through somewhere, someone takes your I’ve had a lot of people who are like, how much does that watch? And you’re like, it’s fake. I always just say it’s fake. Anyway, so I’m getting rid of all that shit just because you’re like, ai fucking doesn’t fucking mean anything.
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Yeah. And what actually does mean shit is like ai you were saying, like, you know, learning shah, educate like like making shit, but also at the same time, like, going ai, I’m learning shit. Yeah. It’s fun. Getting stuck and happy. Like, I’m fucking back talking to you. I’m it’s like it’s it’s ai interesting.
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It’s good
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for your bryden. Positivity.
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You know? Yeah. It’s good for your mental health.
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Good for your mental health.
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It’s also it’s what life is about. Life is about growth. It’s about learning. It’s about experiencing things. And when you get an opportunity to talk to someone, ai, I talked to this woman the other day, Diane Boyd. Yeah. Sai wrote this book, A Woman Amongst Wolves.
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Right.
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She spent her entire life tracking wolves and and and handling them and collaring them and studying them and she lived in a cabin in the woods for years ai herself with no water and no electricity.
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Love it.
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Yeah. Fascinating. Like, just like you’re a totally different type of person than I ever experienced. What’s your life like? What do you do? Like, what do you think about that?
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I’m hooked
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already. Think about that.
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Yeah. I love wolves.
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Yeah. I mean, it’s to meh, there’s so many opportunities in this life to be stimulated by exciting and interesting things Yeah. Where you can learn about stuff.
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A 100%.
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And if you can figure out how that’s your job and it’s not just something that you do on the bus on the way home, but it’s actually your job, that’s that’s a good life.
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Definitely. I mean, for meh, that’s what I love doing. I like talking to people and I like learning and I ai, you know, if you’re learning shah, then other people obviously do podcast. They’re learning and it’s just it’s it’s an awesome thing to be able to do.
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Is there a way to do something like the original Vice but just keep it small and ai let it grow?
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Ai, listen. The Ai news right now is meh, and I’m I’m making podcasts. I’m doing shit that I find interesting.
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Is it still Vice? Do you call it Vice? Yeah.
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I mean, Vice news is still
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one of the owners? Like, how does it work?
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I mean, it’s it’s You
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don’t have
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to get in the woods if you don’t want to. It’s complicated. I mean, it’s complicated. I’m not I’d like I I I was the largest shareholder, and then I went to owning nothing. I lost the most out of anybody. Not that I’m asking anybody to fucking cry for me or anything. It was actually a good thing because you you you like, when you realize a lot of the stuff about happiness and stuff, you realize it not when you’re cashing checks.
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You lose you know, not a a calm sea, never a good captain made. You know? But, yeah, throughout all the, you know, the the changes, basically, I was still in the in the backdrop, you know, just around.
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Why didn’t you sell when it got at the top? Why didn’t you get rid of
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the chairs? That’s the whole the whole thing about I did. I sold some and and and, you know, took some money off the table, which is why I could semi retire. But everyone’s like, you know, oh, Shah, you know, could’ve sold, should’ve sold. He should’ve he sai, no. He said, I’ve never sai no ai in my whole fucking life.
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I was building ai to sell it. I never fucking said no. That’s all fucking horseshit. We tried to sell it to Time Warner, tried to sell it to Disney. It was just ai, you know, at the when Disney said no, we went into private equity. And then, you know, that relationship now is never good.
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So
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Well, it’s the old adage, go woke, go bryden. And that’s what happened with Ai. People stopped. They just stopped paying. Vice is one of the best examples of go woke, go broke ever. Because Vice was fucking huge and it was exciting. It was interesting. You know, you had great shows and then it just got too weird.
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Yeah. I mean, yes, media ai media got weird. And look, everyone’s looking at for us and then we can get on to other shit. But, you know, who left the fucking porthole open of the Titanic? You’re like, yeah, hit a fucking iceberg. Not just us, you know, look at all of the new media. Like Right. It it Culturally.
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ai companies take up 87¢ of every advertising dollar in the world and and independent media gets the rest. And it’s getting smaller and smaller. The money dries up. And when the money dries up, you start getting frantic. Right? You start fucking flailing around looking for shit.
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Whenever you start looking for solutions, other people start looking for solutions. Young people start fucking saying, hey, this is what we gotta do. This is what we gotta do. And you have 5,000 people saying what we gotta do rather than 5. Mhmm.
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And you got people who are semi checked out if not checked out and, you know, shit got set. Nobody’s fucking it’s my baby. Nobody got fucking more sick about it than me. But you’re ai, okay. You know? So now, you know, we’re doing Ai News is me. We’re doing the podcast.
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We’re doing it’s fun again. We’re just fucking building, trying to do new shit with fucking AI and with some other stuff. It’s fun. And, but, yeah, I do I do other shit on my own. And, yeah, you know, look, the other thing too is I also spent time living my life, which I hadn’t been doing, which I’m sure you you do out here.
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Like, you gotta go and you gotta live your life again and
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You have to live your life.
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You have to live your life.
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This idea that your career should be your whole life is foolish. It really is. Foolish.
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It’s foolish.
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And I don’t have much time.
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You don’t
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have much time. You don’t have that much time.
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I was talking to somebody. You’re Meh x? You’re Gen x?
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Yeah. I got 67.
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What’s up? You’re Gen x? Yeah. I was saying to someone because we were the forgotten generation and everyone, like, I was shitting on. Like and I was saying to someone, if you look, you know, the Carl Sagan thing of, like, we live in the greatest envelope of history ever, like, of the billions of planets and the billions of years of this planet.
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Like, we live in this final time when there’s oxygen and there’s water and you can fucking eat and you can fucking, you know. And then I’m like, okay. If you look at that and then go, the best ever time has been ai our little window. Ai, you’re born in the sixties, you’re up in the ai, you’re fucking free to go play in the creek and fucking go hunting and fishing and all that shit.
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And then, you know, no parental supervision. Then you but there’s never been a, like, a major fucking war. We were not getting pitchforked in the stomach. You know, food has been, like for the first time really in history, food is now everywhere is good for every kinda, you know, ai, quality ai, you know? Mhmm.
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Travel, luxury, fucking international travel, ai being able to do freaky jobs rather than work in a factory, da da ai. Like, all these fucking things happen for Meh x. And God knows if it happens again because AI is gonna be all human endeavor done by machines and environmental shit and fucking, you know, the the world is changing in ways we can’t even fucking imagine.
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I have young kids and you know, my all the parents were clucking, like, hands about they’re not learning math. They’re like, it’s AI is gonna change fucking everything. Yeah. And so so I’m like I was talking to someone and saying it’s it’s ai, but Meh x actually lived in the greatest historical window of all time potentially.
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And so I’m not gonna just fucking not enjoy that. I’m gonna go out there in life and just be like, I’m literally living in the greatest single fucking window in the history of history.
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We most certainly have and we live in the greatest time of technological change in human history. We we started out ai you and I can remember when phones were attached to the wall. Yeah. I remember when it was a we had to spin the wheel
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40:44
It was an event.
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Saloni call.
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You got a call.
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And if you fucked up, like, goddamn it, you gotta hang up and start from scratch. Took a long time and make a phone call.
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Joe, there’s a phone call for you.
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Right. And when people would call and you were on the phone, it would just be busy.
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Yeah.
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When is he getting off the phone? And you call him back. Goddamn, he’s still busy. Yeah. And then it became call waiting.
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41:08
Oh, big deal.
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Hold on. Someone else is calling. Yeah.
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Yeah. I
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got someone else. Maybe they’re more important than you. Hold please. And then he come back and then it was caller ID. Oh, this motherfucker’s calling. Fuck him. And then answer machines were the greatest. Meh. And when you could get a remote answering machine, so I could call my answering machine and listen to you leave me a message. Hey.
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Meet me at the bar at 10.
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Yeah.
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And I’d be ai and I’d call you back and leave a message on your machine. Yeah. Hey. I got your message. I’ll meet you at the bar at 10.
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41:37
I love that.
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It was incredible.
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I love that. Yeah. It
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was incredible.
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I’ll see
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you on Saturday at 8. But we were also free from the confines of social media.
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Yeah.
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And social media has brought an incredible amount of information to people, but it’s also also created a lot of very mentally ill people. Whether they realize it or not. It’s like you’re getting a low dose of radiation all day long every day.
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But it’s also addictive.
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Yes. Very very very addictive.
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Shipped with dopamine hits. Uh-huh.
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Yeah. And then it’s it could be psychologically very damaging if you read stuff about yourself. And Ai had many friends that started becoming successful and then started doing really well and then started reading people’s meh.
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The hate is crazy.
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And it drives them nuts. It it it hurts their feelings. It really does. I mean, oh, poor baby. But Ai mean, really,
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as a human being.
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As a human being. Yeah. They’re human beings. And I know that the people look, if I was not a famous person, I was a a person that, you know, was, like, who I was when I was 19 years old, I would 100% be leaving shitty comments on YouTube videos Yeah. And shitty comments on someone’s Instagram or Twitter or whatever. It’s what people do. It’s normal.
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It’s not it’s not the people’s fault because it’s a very disconnected, disassociated way of communicating with people that’s not congruent. It’s not like it’s not normal for human communication. It’s not what we’re designed. We’re designed to do this. Yeah. I’m looking at you, you look at ai. I smile, you ai. We’re buddies. We have a good time.
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That’s how people are used to communicating with each other. When you’re communicating with people through text, it’s fucking bizarre. It’s very bizarre. It’s it’s very different and it’s not good for you to take in the opinions of 100 of thousands of people Yeah. That, you know, may or may not be mentally ill, may or may not be, you know, going through a divorce. Yeah. Have an axe to grind or just look.
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If you’re successful in particular, there’s a lot of un unsuccessful people that are very bitter, very sad, and they wanna find everything wrong with you. We were talking about this in the green room last night. I fucking loved the new Beetlejuice movie. Ai loved it. I read so many bad reviews of it.
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So many bad reviews that it fell flat. Ai had a giant smile on my face the whole time. I’m a huge Tim Burton fan.
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Yeah.
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I think the guy’s brilliant, and I think his movies are so unique because they’re they have this fingerprint of Tim Burton on them. It’s it’s ai it’s so obviously through his mind Yeah. His vision. I think the guy’s incredible. I love all his films. So for me, I was like, oh, this is great. When they got to the Soul Train, I was like, yes. I love it. This is so Tim Burton. Yeah.
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And so many people ai that in particular. There was something offensive about the Soul Train, like, fuck off.
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Also, people say shit about fucking restaurants
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and shit. Everything.
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And I’m like, yeah. It’s fucking great.
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Everything. It’s fucking cheeseburger.
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I love cheeseburgers. It’s fucking good.
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Some guy from the New York Times wrote a negative review about Peter Luger’s steakhouse in Brooklyn. Peter Luger’s steakhouse in Brooklyn is a fucking classic. If I’m anywhere near that area, I’m eating there 100%. That place is sensational.
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Near our old vice office, and we when we didn’t have any money, the the the the the hack was you go there, order lunch to go, and you order the burger because it’s all the ends of the steaks Mhmm. And the fucking killer burger, and you take it down to the river, and you look at Manhattan and have this ai burger at the ai.
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And you’re like, this is the greatest fucking lunch in the greatest city. I fucking love it here, man.
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If I
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can make it
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here. Yeah.
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And I was like, fucking New York, man. This is Peter Luger fucking burger and fucking there’s Manhattan. We’re gonna fuck I I
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But this review is so toxic and Ari and I had just eaten there.
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We had
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just been no, Arya, Shafir. We had just sorry. We had just been there, like, a month before. We’re ai, what the fuck are you talking about? We had one of the best meals of our lives.
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An experience.
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Yeah. It
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comes sizzling and there’s
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butter on it, the smell.
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Oh, yes.
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The whole swag and the fucking best. All the
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guys who worked there, been there for 35 years.
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Shout out
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to Peter Lugers.
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Shout out to Peter Lugers. I will but it’s the point. It’s ai even a place like that that you should you should go there and just take in what you’re experiencing. You’re you’re you’re experiencing a classic old school steakhouse that does it exactly the same way every time.
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I have him for, like, you
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know Forever.
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Forever. Yeah.
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Forever.
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Yeah.
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But it’s just that people even in that will find negativity. Everything sucks. And I think we were talking about this last night that I think this is a a symbol of the times we’re going through right now because everyone is so anxious. Yeah. The presidential elections are headed, and no one knows what the fuck is gonna happen or what’s the what’s the right answer.
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Yeah.
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Is it better if she gets in? Is it better if he gets in? Is he gonna be a dictator? Is she gonna crack down on free speech? Are we gonna be in World War 3? Right. What’s hap does Iran have a fucking nuke? Was that earthquake a nuke or was it just an earthquake? You know, there’s a nuclear test, the weather, why does God hate Florida? Like, what all these different things. Like, there’s so much going on.
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Israel and Gaza and the Middle East and Yeah. Fuck, man. And so everyone is ai, fuck Tim Burton. Fuck that movie. Fuck this. Fuck vatsal. Fuck that restaurant.
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And it’s ai, it’s just this the zeitgeist is disturbed. We don’t have it’s not a peaceful time Yeah. In in our There’s a lot of anxiety. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I don’t you know, I think we’re missing out on the reality of our existence which if we lived at any other ai. We lived in 1924 and you got a time machine to go to 20 24, you’d be ai, holy shit. Ai is amazing. Or 18/24 Oh, yeah.
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When you go get stabbed with a fucking bayonet and die of gangrene over you. Like, it was fucking unpleasant. Yeah. And you’re eating shit you’re shitting all the time because
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Everybody weighed a £20
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because there’s no food. There’s no food. Yeah. And you couldn’t drink water Right. Because you get the shah. Ai, it sai it was bad.
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It was bad. There’s a reason why most people in history were drunk. Because they had to drink alcohol because if you drink regular water, you’d have fucking poison in it. It’s ai you’re getting bacteria.
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And then when we moved to cities, we’re ai, you know what? Now we got it figured out. We’ll just put it in pipes from this beautiful lead pipes. We’ll just put it
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in And everyone’s got lead pipes. Everyone’s got plastic in their balls.
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Well, that’s the other problem I wanted to talk to you about is, don’t you freak it because because when I first started started studying politics, you do you have to take stats, and they’re like there was a southern dude teaching me. He’s like, you can have a statistic to prove anything. And my thing now is and this is what I became interested in.
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It’s ai, all of this is why I started with RKG. Everyone has all the stats and then they give stats so forcefully that you believe them. Like, well, that sounds fucking Ai think, and there’s stats about this and there’s stats about that and all the stats are bad. Yeah. There’s no good stats.
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There’s no good stats. Well, there’s a good stat in terms of, if you look at society in comparison to society of 200 years ago, it’s
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safer That’s Elon Musk. Yeah.
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Yeah. People are
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If you look at it.
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Kinder people are way more it’s it’s way Educated. Way more educated. We understand things more.
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Yeah. And, like, if you look at the sort of coefficient of of 100 of years ago, Saloni brought that up. And I remember looking at that going, oh, yeah. Fuck. We’re doing good. Yeah. Which is when I got into the Carl Sagan shit of we’re actually living in the greatest fucking window of all time.
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Where’s the fucking anxiety coming from? And I don’t know who said this, but I think it was I don’t know who said this, but work satisfies, need, desire, and sanity. Like, you you you need to work to, like, for food. Yeah. You know, desire because happiness is going forward. Yes.
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And then sanity is if you don’t fucking work, you go crazy.
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This is my fear with universal basic income, which I think is inevitable.
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Yeah. It’s inevitable. It’s inevitable. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think this is the only way we’re gonna be able to keep people alive. I understand. My fear is that we’re gonna have too much control over those people if we do that, and that peep those people will have no purpose. And we’ll have an even more disenfranchised population than we have today. And the haves and the have nots will be even further and further apart.
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And and there’s no real education that is in school today where you take a child and you say, hey. Look. The world is going to change and most of these jobs are gonna be useless. You’re gonna have to find something that you love that resonates with people. Yeah.
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And if you do that, people are gonna be willing to exchange that for money. Yeah. Whatever it is, if you can make ai, this table, the guy named Drew made this table. This I know the man who made it. He is a carpenter.
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He made a table out of wood. We we gave him the specifications. I told him I like oak. Yeah. He, like, this is a handmade thing, and a handmade thing is always, to me, is gonna be very valuable. Yeah. I love a handmade knife. Yes.
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You know, I I love I love things that someone worked on. Ai. I love a painting, like, a painting that someone ai, my friend Tyler made this. It’s he painted it. Yeah. He sat down in his studio. He painted it. And I I love that. That’s always gonna be valuable.
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The problem is most people have never been encouraged to pursue their interest. They’ve been encouraged to get a job.
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To be getting a sales job.
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And they probably don’t even know what their interests are or how those interests get transferred.
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Stifled. Yeah.
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Right. They’ve been stifled.
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Well, you’re exactly right. Sai so, actually, when I was spending a lot of time in Silicon Valley, there was a lot of this talk and they’re talking about universal, you know, living wage or basic wage. And I was like, what are you fucking talking about? You’re gonna give everyone a $100? Right.
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And they’re like, well, the synthesis of AI is all human endeavor done by machines. I’m like, wow, come on. So I was kind of the skeptic, you know. This is 10 years ago and now all of this shit has come true. They were already thinking about this back then because they’re also saying exactly what you sai, which is let’s say quantum computing happens and AI at the same time, which is probably 3 years away.
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One quantum computer has enough computing power, vatsal the existing computers in the world today. Right? And then you add AI to that. So there’s a whole new fucking tech revolution where it becomes even more rich people who own shit and and even more. Sai they’re ai, if unless you take care of those people, they’re gonna come because we’re the nerds. They’re gonna come with the hammers. Right.
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51:42
And the currency is gonna be bullets. It’s not gonna be chips. And so you’re it’s Planet of the Apes. You got fucking, you know, people on one side here and the big brains on the other ai. And you’re ai, oh, there are they already knew this.
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51:54
They were already thinking this because they’re like, we’re gonna buy them off. But people are gonna go crazy if you buy them off.
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Yeah. It’s not necessarily buy them off. It’s keep them alive.
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Yeah. Keep them alive. Okay.
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Because people are not gonna have any fucking money.
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Ai buy them off. They’re because they’re afraid that they’re gonna come That
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I don’t
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think we should look at it that way. I think there’s got to be a concerted effort to educate people about the possibilities of their life
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Right.
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On Earth. That you that they’ve been indoctrinated to think that they have to be a worker. How many of these people are out there that are doing masonry work really sana be a painter? How many of those people that that really wanted to be in a band? How many meh these people there’s something probably that most people wanna do. Yeah.
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One thing the universal basic income will do is if, you know, you give everybody a $100 a year or whatever it is, you’re gonna satisfy they’re they’re they’re not gonna worry about rent. They’re not gonna worry about food. Yeah. So now maybe they can pursue. The problem is people get fucking lazy when you give them free money. It’s just a fact.
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Maybe. Ram. Maybe you’re right.
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It’s not everybody. Yeah. But a lot of people. Yeah. They just exist and they’ll just play video games all day. And, you know, look, if we’re gonna deal with a society where everything is run by AI and automated, that you’re gonna have to give people money because the extraordinary wealth that’s gonna be generated by AI is gonna make that not that difficult to do, especially when you consider how much money we give to other countries already.
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A 100%.
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Right?
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We’ve over the last couple of years, we’ve given a 100 and, what, how many $1,000,000,000 to Ukraine? I think
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it’s
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more than it’s up to 200,000,000,000 now? Yeah. Something crazy like that? Yeah. That amount of money when you’re dealing with AI, when you’re dealing with automation, just to keep people fed and housed, like, that’s reasonable. Mhmm. But but you’re you’re gonna have to figure out a way to give people purpose. Yes.
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And and that’s gonna have to
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That’s harder.
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Be a revamping of the education system.
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53:36
That’s exactly right. It’s a revamping of the education system because you’re saying, well, all of these we were we were this is another great thing on Meh x, but we were built to be workers. We were you’re supposed to get universal education is supposed to just be enough so you can be a a good worker and a good taxpayer.
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53:54
And you get a job and then, by the way, you you get out of college and you’re you already have debt, then you buy a consumer durable. You buy a fucking car. You buy a Yeah. A washing machine. And that’s you know, we’ll give everybody that, but we give you debt and then you buy a house and then you’re in debt and then when you finally get out of debt and then you die.
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Right.
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And so you just work, work, work, work, work. And ai the way, you’re exactly right. You had to get a job, j o b not f u n. It’s just you go and you do it, and they give you money and
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then you ai an adult. That’s it. Yeah. And then
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54:22
But that’s not true Because all of this human endeavor is now gonna be done by machines. You’re like, okay. Now what do you got? And and I I agree a 100%. It’s going to be something that we can’t even fathom, which is what do you really like to do? Right. What do you love doing? What do you by the way, building a table is worth more than fucking being a corporate executive.
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Well, it is if you enjoy it. Exactly. Yeah. If you have a a business that you actually enjoy doing. Exactly.
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54:49
That’s what I’m saying, like, that’s what we have to teach. Yeah. Rather than
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We we have to and there’s also this comparing thing. You know, I was at dinner the other night and my friend who’s friends with this billionaire, his his friend is a billionaire and his friend was comparing his wealth to friends of his that own multiple corporations shah are worth 30, 40,000,000,000.
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He’s ai, I’m fucking poor compared to that guy. I’m like
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Right.
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You missed the whole point. You missed the whole point of getting wealthy. Yeah. Like, you have fucked you, Bunny, You’re not even saying fuck you. You should
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be on
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a boat somewhere, man.
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55:21
You should
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be marlin fishing. Yeah. You know, you should be fucking ai in the sun. You should be doing things you enjoy doing. You should be taking that trip you always wanted to take. That’s what you’re supposed to be doing. You’re not supposed to be keeping up with other billionaires.
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55:33
So you’re working 16 hours a day on Adderall Yeah. Just so that you could fucking get those stock numbers moving. Like Yeah.
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55:39
What? Well, the one yeah. Ai the the smartest thing anyone ever told me about money was my old man, and he said, life is like a shit sandwich. The more bread you have, the less shit you have to eat. This is a guy who the only dude who ever lost money on insider trading. He was not gonna be. But, but but, it’s true.
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Like, the one thing the one thing that you do notice when you meh a bit of people are fucking nice to you.
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That helps.
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Nice to you. And when ai when you don’t have money
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Not online.
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Not online. No. But, like and then and then and then and you realize, like, oh, fuck. Like, people, like, can be ai, are not nice to you, you know, in general, a lot a lot of times. And you’re like, that’s that fucking sucks. And and, like, yeah, when you get a bit of money, a bit of success, whatever, people are a lot fucking nicer.
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And that’s the one thing that that, you know, that that I that I remarked upon in my life. The rest of it’s all arya. The rest of it’s all bullshit. But but but but people being nice and, like, you know, not shit not sucking Yeah. Is that’s pretty good.
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That’s nice. And having a cushion
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Yeah.
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So you don’t have to worry about, like, I remember the first check I got, a real check. I got a development deal from Disney of all people when I was, like, I guess Sai was, like, 26. And it was the first time I ever had, like, a good chunk of money, like, 6 figures in the bank. Yeah. And I felt weight Different.
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I felt weight lifted off ai, like a physical feeling of woah. Yeah. Because every like meh whole life, it’s ai, how am I gonna eat? Yeah. How am I gonna pay my rent? How am I gonna do this? And then all of a sudden, I don’t have to worry about that anymore.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, oh, I get it now. And I remember this revelation, like, okay, now I just have to keep this momentum going. Yeah. Because once you have a good amount of money where you don’t have to worry about money anymore, that feel you don’t sana get ever get back to that desperation feeling.
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That’s a terrible feeling and that’s the feeling most people arya listening to this exist in. Yeah. That feeling of concern about your bills. It’s the number one struggle in marriages. It’s the number
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57:33
one struggle for everything. For everything. Well, this is why we’re getting this is why we’re bringing ai. Sai had the exact same moment in my life. I never had any money and then I’ll never forget it. I was walking down the Ram in in Barcelona because I was living there trying to set up Ai Bank.
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And I I went in a bank machine and I and it was we had done some deal and it was the first time I got paid any money. It wasn’t a lot of money, but it was, you know, same ai of deal, like, 6 figure thing. And and I took out the money and I went like, my life changed that that Ai still remember how I like, how it smelled. I still remember Yeah.
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Because my life changed because it was it was the first time I didn’t have $28 in my bank account. Right. And I just went and, like, my, like, my breathing changed. Yeah. Just everything. Ai, you said, like, there’s, like Ai lifts off you. Weight lifts off you.
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And and that that and and humans don’t like to go backwards. But, yeah, living in that sort of constant fear, that’s the problem with money. Yeah. And that’s why there is a chance, and it was good you brought that up actually, that the like, you can you can kind of take this any way, you know, like human humanity can take the next, let’s say, 20 years anyway we sana take it.
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58:42
And you can take it to be ai, let’s fucking learn from what we’ve learned and be positive and try to take this as a fucking thing where humanity gets better. And we do this in the right way rather than just do a fucking knee jerk reaction freaking out fuck like, what the fuck’s gonna like, I think I’m sure that you’re gonna look back at a time when, like, the social media was fucking fucking up kids heads and you’re we’re gonna say shah was crazy, dude.
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Right. It’s gonna be like smoking.
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59:06
We’re gonna look at the stock market and go, meh, it’s fucking completely manipulated by supercomputers and $1,000,000,000,000 funds, and the little guy gets fucked. Why would the fuck do we let that happen?
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Right. Right.
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There’s gonna be all kinds of coming out of the pond moments where we go, hey. Like, we were we were doing it wrong. Yeah. But there’s this big, you know, chaos is a ladder. There’s this big, you know, chaotic time right now, and you’re exactly ai. And people getting anxious about it and everything. And you’re like, meh. We gotta use that as a time to say, hey.
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Why don’t we fucking have an economy where there is a universal basic wage and or living wage? And we take that to doing shit where you do something that you like and and you’re you’re you’re you’re happy about because that your job is probably going away.
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I guarantee you it will cause less crime. I think crime will dip substantially. I think there’ll be less civil unrest. People’s needs will be met. It’ll it’ll give everyone that feeling of, oh, I don’t have to worry about my bills anymore. It’s just finding purpose. That’s gonna be the next thing.
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And the people that are really gonna be fucked are the people that didn’t find purpose already.
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Before And
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then they were, like, 40 and then that happens because they’re gonna be sad. And that’s that’s what I’m worried about. I’m worried about the people that are already sort of indoctrinated into sai certain specific way of living and then all of a sudden their purpose, which was their job, you know, they worked at the factory and they’re, like, you know, Johnny’s employee of the month.
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Johnny, you’re doing a fucking great job. We really appreciate you. Yeah. That guy feels purpose. He puts in a hard day’s work.
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When he gets that paycheck, he knows he earned it. That’s who he is. He’s the number one guy at the plant.
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Mhmm.
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He’s the foreman. He’s the guy the men respect. That’s a real thing for human beings. We need a thing that makes us feel ai we’re we’re progressing. Yeah. It’s it’s a part of our DNA. Our DNA, the reason why we’re still alive, the reason why we survived is because we solved problems.
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We figured out what’s going on. We’ve made ourselves useful, and it makes you useful to the tribe. It makes you makes you feel good. You have a sense of purpose. That’s the guy that’s the best hunter. She knows how to fucking plant vegetables. He knows how to make cloth.
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Everybody had a job and it gave you a sense of purpose. Yeah. We’re gonna have to figure this out quick because I think it’s gonna be like the birth of a child. It’s gonna be like this screaming, ai. It’s gonna be this thing filled with anxiety, but it is happening whether we’d like it or not.
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And and if we don’t start educating children about the benefits of having a fulfilled life where you’re doing something you actually enjoy and not telling them don’t do that, it’s too hard. Don’t do that, it’s risky. Thank God, I didn’t listen to anybody. Mhmm. Because
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my whole You wouldn’t exist.
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I would have not a thing I did ever Yeah. Anybody told me to do. Yeah. Not ai. My parents tried to stop me from ai. Mhmm. When I was doing martial arts, when I ai to do comedy, they were worried that why aren’t you you did so well in martial arts. Why are you quitting and doing this new thing? Yeah.
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And every fucking step of the way, when I started doing podcast, my friends like, what are you wasting your time doing this for? Right.
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Yeah. It
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was all we started doing video podcast.
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People are
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ai, why are you spending so much time doing video? That’s so stupid.
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Nobody watches video. Everyone says no.
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Ai was like, I don’t care. I just sana do it. Yeah. Ai, just do what you like to do. If you can, but I just, for whatever reason, got lucky that I got into a pattern like that very early in life.
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Yeah.
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Both my parents work, so there wasn’t a lot of guidance. Yeah. So I found a thing that I liked, and I just went and did it. Yeah. And, you know, they’re ai, why are you wasting your time doing that? Ai, mom. Yeah. I was gonna fucking leave the house and I was on my own and so I got into a pattern of that early, but there’s so many people that don’t and so many people that get a job.
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And then that job’s gonna go away and
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it’s gonna
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be replaced by a fucking computer. And I if you’re listening to this and that happens to you, don’t become an alcoholic. Yeah. Don’t just give in. Find something else. Find purpose. Find a thing. What you love. There’s so many I wish I had 50 lives to live simultaneously.
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Me too.
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I would have a bunch of different jobs. Yeah. I’ve always wanted to do a bunch of different things.
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Yeah. There’s
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so many interesting things in this life.
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Well, I think you’re a 100% ai, but I also think, like, especially with kids, now is the time to start saying exactly that. Yes. Like, listen. Yes. You know, like, I did what I wanted to do. And and and the same thing, everybody told me no. You know, everyone told you no and all that stuff, which, by the way, you know, when I heard them saying no, like, when you’re, like, I’m sana get into fighting.
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Yeah. No. You know, you’re not. I’m gonna do comedy. Yeah. No. You’re not, dude.
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You’re not doing oh, now I’m gonna get into the pod what the fuck’s a podcast? You’re not gonna fuck it. You know, it’s great. I can hear them saying no in my brain.
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Howard Stern used to mock podcasts sana he was my hero. It’s like a guy who loved listening to him on the radio.
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And
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hearing him mock podcast when I was doing it. I was like, damn. I was like, oh, he’s wrong. That’s not good. Yeah.
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The laugh of the victorious.
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Ah, it’s a good laugh. It’s a good one. It’s the best laugh.
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But yeah. So everyone said no to me. But so now I agree you have to go to kids and say, look, dude, do whatever the fuck you sana. Do what you’re good at, do what you’re passionate about. Like, do shah whole thing.
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We gotta stimulate them. There. Stimulate them with interesting things. This I mean, that’s when we’re talking about how I got this unexpected education on this podcast. I realized that I it wasn’t that I was not interested in things or that I wasn’t intelligent. It’s that I wasn’t stimulated.
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And I was a very physical person when I was a kid. I had so much fucking energy. And, when you’re sitting in a class and you’re a little buzz saw, like, it was like Ai can’t do this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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If I lived with the wrong parents and especially in a different time, I would have 100% been medicated. Yeah. But what it was was that I was a different car. Yeah. Okay? I wasn’t a Honda Civic, you know.
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I was
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a a a
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a Shelby Mustang for the shirt I’m wearing. Yeah. I was I was I was ai ai I I needed to go. I need to go. Yeah. I I gotta get stimulated by things. I need stuff that excites me. Yeah. I can’t just sit down and I’m not good at listening.
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Which is not what school does. It cuts off the tall trees.
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It doesn’t just do that. It tells you to not go for it. Yeah.
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Yeah. It tells you Exactly. You cut off the top.
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You’re a bad person Yeah.
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If you can’t move forward.
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Yeah. And but, like, somebody had to be Johnny Cash.
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A 100%.
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There’s a we all celebrate these people that escaped. Somebody had to be Jimmy Hendrix. Somebody had to be Richard Pryor. Like, obviously, they were real. Like, so they did it.
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And everyone told them not to. It’s just like a reward for getting out of that fucking quagmire of bullshit and mediocrity. And that’s what we there’s gotta be the Smith Rogen Academy and just say, look, don’t do any of that shit. Yeah. You fucking do what you love and also find shit that interests you and go do that because I didn’t do that for a while. It’s like a fucking purgatory.
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You gotta pursue it like your life depends on it
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because it
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actually does.
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It does.
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It actually does. And you can get gig jobs, you could wait tables, you could drive Uber. I drove limos. I did construction. I did whatever I had to do. I delivered newspapers. I did whatever I had to do to try to, like, do a thing that and I didn’t know if I was gonna make it, but Ai back then, when you’re 21 years old, you have no responsibilities.
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Yeah. No health insurance, no nothing, and you could just fucking try things.
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Yeah.
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Just try things.
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Yeah.
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And if you don’t do that, you’re gonna be sai, and that’s the reality of the world we live in. When people wanna talk to the about the levels of depression in this country, what about the levels of purpose, and do they coincide Yeah. With the the the levels of how many people have learned to control their emotions? How many people have learned to get their health in order?
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How many people have learned how to meditate? How many people have learned how to think about things before you make a decision and try to give yourself advice objectively? How many people
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have learned over medicate or not medicate at all?
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You’re not medicate at all. Yeah. How many people have learned how to, like, apologize to your friends, apologize to your family if you made a mistake? How many people have learned to own up to when you were the wrong when you were in the wrong instead of just covering it up and pretending and arguing and and and trying to, you know, distort things?
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Yeah. Just learn. Yeah. Learn and grow. Like, we all make mistakes.
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We all and if you’re on the wrong path in life and if you’re doing something you don’t wanna do, figure out a way to get the fuck out of that job.
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Yeah.
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And actually do it. Don’t talk about it. Fucking do it. Because if you don’t and if you do it, it’s gonna be so exciting. It’s gonna be terrifying. You’ll be like, oh meh ai. I can’t believe I’m afraid. Oh my god. I gotta I gotta make this happen but fucking go for it. Yeah.
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You don’t have much time.
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You have to.
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You got to.
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You have to.
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If you don’t, you’re gonna be sad and that’s just the reality of a lot of you or you’re gonna be angry and it’s really you’re not even angry at the things you think you’re angry at. Yeah. You’re angry at your existence.
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Well, that’s when I go back to this thing of you wanna talk about meditation is whenever you get angry or anxious, whatever, sai, look, you’re living in the greatest fucking window of time ever in the history of fucking time. Ever.
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Ever.
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So when what are you waiting for?
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The
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better window of ai? Right. It’s not coming. Right. And so when you put it in a sort of grandiose perspective, you’re like, I’m gonna enjoy the fucking shit Yeah. Out of today because this is the best day in the fucking world ever.
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It’s the best day ever.
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And it but not only in the in the world, in the history of the world, but in the history of every other planet that we that we that we know about.
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And part of what makes it exciting is that we’re almost blowing it apart.
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Yeah. Well, that’s the other problem.
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Like, that’s what you should enjoy if you’re sitting in a restaurant having a nice steak and a glass of wine. You should enjoy the fact that, you know, we’re not in rubble.
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You should. That’s a real thing.
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That’s a real thing.
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That’s a real thing. And I I I feel like that every time I come back from somewhere, you know, and that’s one thing about reporting is you come back and you’re ai, you really fucking enjoy. You really enjoy life.
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This really is the promise, man. Yeah.
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It
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is. It really is. I mean, clearly not for everybody, but also there’s a possibility. The opportunity awaits itself right here. It it really is the greatest country the world has ever known. In the middle of all the bullshit we’re going through and all the chaos and all the potential wars that we’re involved in and wars we’re involved in, It’s still the greatest place ever, the greatest time ever.
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It’s just confusing.
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It’s also one of the only countries you realize, guys like us, like, you have a kick at the can. Yeah. Right. Most countries, you don’t have a kick at the can. You got the wrong last name, wrong accent.
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Cass systems.
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Yeah. Ai, just and and and ai like England. Yeah. Europe, if you were aristocracy, then you had everything. And if you weren’t, you had nothing.
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And if you want to get ahead, people get angry at you.
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There’s some sai, like, again, going back to stats, but there’s some stat, like, 80% of the world’s wealth is inherited and by 2045, it’s gonna be even higher. It’s gonna be like, you know, and you’re like, oh, fuck you. Forget. Because we come from, oh, we made money or Elon made money or fucking Larry Page made money or whatever. Those are the the real rich ai Bezos.
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And and but but the majority of the world, it’s like, yeah, my parents had money a 1000 years ago, so I have money today. That’s so crazy. And and Ai how you make Joffrey’s. Well, that’s how you make fucking
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Game of Thrones.
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Yeah. No. Yeah. Well, that’s how you make lots of them.
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Yeah. You make monsters. Yeah.
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And monsters. And so so yeah. Like, you come here and Ai like, I’m an immigrant. Ai came here. I’m fucking I was the ambassador for fucking New York. I’m like, I came here with no fucking shoes. I gave a billionaire. I fucking love it. It’s the greatest fucking city in the fucking world. Fucking amazing.
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And the Canadians were ai, because the Canadian identity is like, we’re not American ai of thing. And I was unapolog I went to New York. I’m, like, this is the greatest goddamn city in the fucking world. And which it is. And then and then and then I moved to LA when I had kids.
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I’m, like, well, this is pretty fucking nice to
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I used to sana live in Canada. I used to love Canada. I
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love Canada. Don’t get me wrong. I love Canada. Canada’s a great place to be.
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I thought
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about living in Vancouver.
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That’s beautiful.
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I was
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like, I could live in Vancouver. Like, if shit hits the fan of the United States. I always felt like Beautiful country.
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And Canadians are amazing people. They’re amazing. Amazing people.
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I I
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always feel like Canada has 20% less douchebags. That’s that was my feeling. When I used to do shows up there, we would all talk about it. We do a gig in Toronto. We do a gig in Montreal.
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Yeah. And we’re all ai.
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It is the best.
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The best.
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I love it up there. I love the people. They’re friendly and hardworking
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Great place to go.
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Peaceful, smart, and they’re smart, and they’re educated. It was always fun. I loved it up there. I just love the attitude of the place. I’ve met so many cool people in Canada, but now the the way Trudeau is running it, it scares the shit out of me. I’m like, you guys are sliding into communism. You’re sliding every day. They push a little bit further, a little bit further. Yeah.
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Ai mean, if you don’t get rid of that guy, if you don’t turn that thing around, you’re fucked.
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Yeah. Look, I’ve seen a lot of things happen in Canada where, to me, it’s it’s government shouldn’t run things at all. Like, if if if we can, sai away from ram. What does that mean? It means like universal healthcare. So when I grew up, it was good. You could go to any hospital. The doctors were all good, some of the best doctors in the world.
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And then because they didn’t manage it correctly and it got too big, it got too good. Ai 80¢ of every dollar was going to managing it rather than the doctors. So they left, they came down here. There’s a big brain drain. And now you can’t get a doctor. You have to sign up and wait for 3 years. It’s like the NHS in in the UK or something.
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And it just doesn’t work because the government’s too big. It’s just, you know, once you get the government involved, it becomes like a welfare program. You’re just paying all kinds of people to work on the thing that but no one’s doing the actual thing that they’re supposed to work on. Right. The health care.
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Bureaucracy. Bureaucracy.
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So it’s it’s a problem. But I in my later stages in ai, to get into this and to get into the American political system and and the bogus loony, that that that is this political cycle and this electoral cycle and Canada and what’s happening in Europe, I really get this feeling and maybe, you know, we’re gonna get get into it on this.
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But when I was younger, you know, and I was studying stuff, and I was I I I always feel like Sai would love to go back to being in college. Because when I was in college, I just sana to get out. I wanted to I wanted to get out and make money and stuff. And I just did everything to just get the fuck out.
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And now Ai like, if I could just read books and talk to people and then write about that, I’d fucking where where do I sign up? Yeah. I’m just thinking about shit. So I fucking would love to. It’s it’s wrong timing for when you’re when you’re but anyway, But I used to study I would love this philosophy. I love politics.
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When I first came down to Meh, and I’ve been studying American politics, Bubba Clinton had was a consensus politician, reduced the size of government, took the largest deficit of all time, turned the largest surplus of all time. And then Bush got in, turned the largest surplus of all time, largest deficit, increased ai of government. I’m like, no one sai boo. No one said anything.
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And you’re like, the whole fundamental principles of the Republican Democratic Ai. Immigration. The the before Trump, the the the it was there’s none more Reagan than me was the the calling card of of of of the GOP. Reagan was the best, president for immigration, if you’re an immigrant, ever. He was super pro immigration, and the Democrats were against it. They completely switched their platforms on it.
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Yeah. And you’re ai, to me, when you look at America, you say, okay. It’s a republic. It’s 2 party systems. They’re always in power.
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One’s not that’s like a 2 party system. You’re always in power. You’re always in power or you’re fucking trying to control the house or whatever. And you’re like, is it all much ado about nothing? Is it all a politic like bread and puppet theater?
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It’s ai, this is super fucking important for you to watch over here to give you some sort of thinking that I have some agency. Ai can vote and it’s gonna fucking matter about anything. Whereas, what the fuck really changes on the big shit? Like, what the fuck really changes on the economy?
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What the fuck really changes for ai of the shit that we’re talking about?
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Right.
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About school, about education, about big ai, the other shit you talk about, which is fascinating and it’s great that you do it, about big pharma, big food, big education Yeah. Military industrial. What the fuck really changes in that? 0.
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0. Yeah. The only thing that changes is if there’s someone who really wants to push reform, really wants to change things. And the real question is, like, when you get a guy like Trump who’s promising all this stuff, how much can you actually get away with? How much can you actually change? What what can you actually do and will that change things for the better?
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Very little. Well, when it comes to Politically. Politically. Politically, America is set up to do very the American government is set up to do very little and do it very slowly. That was what it was said.
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Well, not only that. A long time ago, we gave in to allowing money to enter into politics in this huge influential way. And then we allowed pharmaceutical drug companies to advertise on television. Food and Both but all those things. But those were the big ones. Because as soon as ai television.
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Food and Both all those things.
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But those were the
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big ones. Because as soon
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as you add control of the narrative, there’s no
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way the media is gonna spoil the relationship that they have with their biggest providers of revenue. They’re not gonna do that. So whatever whether it’s the food companies or whether it’s pharmaceutical drug companies, they’re gonna ignore as much as possible about the negatives of of these products.
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And then you have a propaganda state where you have these people that are literally hired to say stories they know are not true because this will benefit the people that are their ai. And that’s where you get fucking crazy. It’s also how that model implodes, which is fascinating. Yeah. So that model becomes less relevant. Mhmm.
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And the Michael Schellenberger’s and the Matt Taibis of the world, then people start turning to them, the the Glenn Greenwald’s of the world. He was like, well, these people
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Joe Rogan.
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Are honest sana they’re well, I’m not a journalist.
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I know. But
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But these people are honest.
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Interview a lot of people who tell a lot of things that that people don’t get at other places.
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Yes. And then crazy people too. But that’s
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ai. It’s funny.
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Let’s get into aliens. Comedians. I wanna
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know what you know about aliens.
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Yeah. I Sorry. I I I’m going.
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Ai sana hear that end of that, though.
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I don’t remember where I was going. Where where was I going? You
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were Oh,
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the the the so what they’ve done is they’ve created their own demise by giving it to Satan’s deal. So by sucking Satan’s cock and getting all that money, you’ve you’ve now you you’re not a news organization anymore. You’re a propaganda outlet, and everybody knows it. You have the news. But that’s But the news is a thin layer of bread on the shah sandwich.
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But that yes. But that’s been see, this is the thing. Is that’s been since the fucking beginning. It’s nothing new. Like, I forget who it was, but I was talking to somebody. He goes, what is news? What is news, Shane? You know who Reuter was? You know who Reuter was? He he he he he started the Reuters to to start a newspaper to say fuck you to his enemy, blah blah blah.
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He just bought it. He was just a rich guy who bought I can’t do his accent anymore, but but basically, he got incensed with me because he was just like, that’s what it always was, some rich guy would start a newspaper just to say fuck you to the other guy.
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Bezos by The Washington Post?
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Well, because he was on the he’d cover The New York Times. What is it? You can’t you can’t be on the cover The New York Times 18 days in a row, and he was on 13th
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Was it?
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Post. Something like that. Yeah.
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He was on the other side.
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It worked. You know?
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Yeah. It worked. I mean, look. You can use money to meh a lot of things done. But it’s just But
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I’m just no. What I’m saying is there’s always been money in politics, and there’s always been money in media. It’s just now it’s it’s more obvious than ever before. And now you’re right. There there there are agendas. Sai my whole thing is, like, I’m I’m an immigrant, but I’m I’m non political. I’m just literally serious.
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I like, I I believe in the game. I I like the game. I like watching the game. Mhmm. And that’s why I say, like, I like to take a look, like, okay, there’s this whole fucking thing going on over here where the status quo doesn’t change.
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And I think you and I are like, look, that’s what has to fucking change over there. That’s the real power over there. Yeah. This shit for me becomes and it’s funny because this is ai I don’t know what what what Ai showing up myself. I don’t know what the elect what this election is. 53, 54, something like that? The 54, 56?
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It’s pretty close.
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Around there somewhere.
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It it fluctuates depending on what
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So we’re
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on season 53. Right. And that’s why you have to have the craziness. You have to have 2 assassination attempts. You have to have fucking Biden. By the way, Biden has to be kicked out mid election, and we’re gonna get sai, ai, you’re like, oh, season 53, the Fonz is jumping the shark, but the shark’s is feeding ai piranhas.
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Not only that, Biden’s wearing a MAGA hat. Yeah.
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Like, this this But that’s meh. Ai, look. Can I pause you for a second?
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Because,
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Jamie, you brought something. Jamie, you didn’t bring it up. Somebody else brought it up. Sean brought it up to me. Was there some sort of a physical altercation between Joe Biden’s people and Kamala Harris’s people?
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Reports about this stuff on Twitter, but, like, I that’s just, like, Twitter reports. You know, I haven’t seen anyone show pictures or quotes. It’s just ai a Twitter account saying stuff like that.
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What is it a a good Twitter account? I would I don’t remember. There’s a few people I follow where I know they’re full of shit because they just wanna see nonsense.
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I like it.
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And I
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just go, what does this take? Much. We’re kinda good.
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Ai, it’s a lot of the Michelle Obama has dick. Like, it does.
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Yeah. There’s so many of them. There’s so many of them. But I I I love I love memes. Like Oh my god. I love memes. Love memes. And they have fast and hard you wanna talk about creativity and art. Like, some of them are so fucking good and so artistic and so quick. You’re ai, how the fuck did they fucking do that one? Like, I fucking love it.
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Yeah. And and there’s it’s so inappropriate. And that’s what’s fun about it because they you could never ai say you could never say this. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I’m like Yeah.
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I’ll send this to Jamie sai he knows what we’re talking about.
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Yeah. It’s just like So I I’m just but, like, it’s like there’s so many of them now. And sai anyway, that’s like I was during during, during It’s ai during COVID.
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Oh, well, this ai pretty legit.
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Right. But it just says per White House official, which
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How do
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you say his name? Possebic?
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Possebic.
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How do
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you say his name?
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I don’t know.
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Possebic? Possebic. But this ai pretty legit. There was a physical altercation with Jill and Kamala staffers in the White House after Joe’s press room last speak, began with the accusation the Ai were undermining Kamala’s deliver Kamala deliberately per White House official.
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Well, it does seem like he’s doing that. Like, when he called that press conference, he hadn’t called any press conference. So he decides to call a press conference in the middle of a national emergency.
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Sai he’s out?
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Yeah. And he’s out? And everyone know but he’s still the president, so
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he can call a press conference. So he decides
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to do that. He the wearing the MAGA hat. Like, look, there’s no fucking way they’re happy they got kicked out, and Jill did not want him to step down. Right. She started taking cabinet meetings.
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Right.
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Like,
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who Yeah. Ai. Sai. Yeah.
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Yeah. Who elected you? Can I do it? Let me let me do it. Let me do it. I’m not elected either. Let me just sit in ai find out what’s going on with these people. What are you talking about? How are you running a cabinet meeting?
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But you’re
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just married to the guy that’s the president.
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But that’s the whole thing too because she sai at because I’ve sat in that ram. Like, you can go and sit in the room
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with you. He wasn’t there.
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Yeah. He was but she I don’t think she was running the cabinet meeting.
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Oh, because that’s what Ai heard.
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Yeah. That’s what people say because there’s a picture of her there, but she’s not running the fucking cabinet. You wanna ruin a great story?
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This is fun. It’s fun
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if she’s running it. There you go.
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If she I hope she’s running it. I hope she’s boss bitch.
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Tell everybody ai to do. The thing the thing about it is
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I’m married to ai president
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for 1 more month. If you sana look at, like, the the greatest time of the Republican party when when Reagan was president, it was his cabinet. His cabinet was exceptional. And because he like, he he had meh, but his cabinet
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Well, not initially, he did.
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Not initially, but later on. But his cabinet was running America. It was fucking great. Right. So you see ai cabinet should run America. I’d rather have the cabinet run something of of professionals, people who are, like, designed to do that rather than one fucking person who’s gonna go, meh, no, yep, yep, that’s great.
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They’re the fucking queen of England, and they’re supposed to be the queen of England.
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Yeah. Do you think his dementia was convenient?
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Whose?
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Reagan’s. I was wondering if he was doing, like, a Jimmy the chin type thing.
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No. Ai. Look, Reagan
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Do you like, here’s Jimmy Tingle, who’s an amazing comedian. Yeah. He had this great bit way back in 1988
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Okay.
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When, when Reagan was in trouble for selling weapons to Iran
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Oh, right.
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And he said, I can’t recall.
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Yeah.
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And he goes, do me a favor, mister president. You ever sell sai arms to people who hate us? Jot it down.
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It’s pretty good.
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Ai like he goes ai a note put it on your refrigerator.
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Yeah. That’s I never I literally never even thought of that that
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I would do that. Yeah. He said he couldn’t remember anything. Yeah. That’s a good move.
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That is
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a good move.
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Who could tell you whether or not you can remember things? You could play dumb. Yeah. That’s what Jimmy the chin did.
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I don’t remember,
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some stuff. Story? No. Jimmy the chin Gigante was a mob leader. Yeah. And he would walk around with a bathrobe and slippers and just mumble to himself.
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Yes.
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And he would walk down the street with his capos Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the FBI knew this. And so what they did was they put, these little microphones on all the hubcaps so they could record his conversation as he walked down the street. Sai as he’s walking down the street, they were recording everything.
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Wow.
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I love shit like that.
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I love shit like that.
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Like, when Israel intercepts the pagers of Hezbollah and blows everybody’s balls off, that is look, it’s terrible that those people died, but it seems like they weren’t good people. But at the bottom line is, you know how fucking genius that is?
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To to to stop the actual shipment Yeah. To oh, sorry. To figure out that they use this type of analog pager, stop the shipment, put and then get them to all blow up in the same ai. Months. Wait. Wait.
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Ai. Yeah. Wait. And make sure that no one’s on an airplane.
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There’s an amazing book called Rise Up and Kill First.
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I’ve read that. Yeah. It’s a great book.
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It’s about this. It’s about, like, we can’t win a war, so we’re gonna assassinate our way to sai.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s all about Israel. Yeah. It’s crazy.
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And and using political assassinations. Fantastic.
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It’s crazy. When you find out they’re doing that, like, goddamn. Well, you all goddamn genius that isn’t. You imagine being them and realizing, like, this is how deeply Israel’s infested your organization. Yeah. That’s sana be terrifying.
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Well, just recently they got the head of, Hezbollah and then the saloni head and then the third head within, like, 3 or 4 days of each other.
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And
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then they’re trying to get new guys and they’re, like, uh-uh.
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Yeah. I
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don’t want that gig.
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I ai not I don’t want that gig.
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It’s the whole thing is it’s very very fascinating. Well, it’s about the people that invented Pegasus. Yeah. You know, they invented that the ability to just they now
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Get in your phone.
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Pegasus 2, all they have to have is your phone number
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Yeah.
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And they’re in.
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That’s true. I have I actually talked to one of the guys who own that company. If you want the hack for Pegasus, I don’t know if it still is, turn your phone off repeatedly and then I’ll because every time you turn your phone off, they have to re put the Pegasus in.
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Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I don’t know ai that
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Well, that’s that was from the dude.
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I I would tell that to people just to
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he’s a
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fucking idiot. Shut his phone up.
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Ai. I got it from the owner. It’s true.
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Meanwhile, you’re never off the phone. They’re like, you’re never off. Yeah.
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Exactly.
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That’s how you could use ai your phone.
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Yeah. I
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mean, there’s there’s I’m sure there’s probably some hacks, but Eric Prince has a new phone called the unplugged phone that’s designed by the guy who created Pegasus apparently. And it’s ai this untrackable phone that kinda constantly but Who knows?
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I I don’t I think You can track everything.
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I think you are first of all, with quantum computing Yeah. When quantum computing becomes ubiquitous, there’s going to be no more passwords. That’s all gone, folks. It does not work.
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Security. It’s
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sai option window. Bitcoin. Oh, yeah.
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01:26:19
Your credit cards. Oh, you’re fucked. Everything.
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Everyone’s fucked. And we’re not prepared for that.
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100% no.
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It’s gonna be real weird. Because I’ve always sai, like, what money is today essentially is numbers. It’s just ones and zeros. Yeah. We make
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it up.
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And the thing that you see with the Internet is as technology increases, people get more and more access to to information, to ones and zeros, to data. Yeah. The bottleneck is gonna be money. Yeah. And eventually, that’s gonna break through. And then what do you own? Yeah. And who owns what? And where is it stored?
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And what is it?
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And so it’s all digital, and soon, very soon, there’ll be no digital encryption. There’ll be no digital safety at all. Everything by the way, you’re talking about money. Every fucking so I one of the most fascinating ai, you I think you talked to him too. I went to Russia and I hung out with him at the Meh, which is funny because it’s the whole it’s famously the every room is bugged because it was the only place they let foreigners stay in Moscow.
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And so we’re at the Meh. He we’ve got into surveillance and but he opened my phone and, like, he was like, as we were having the interview, just showing me, like, how they can turn on the phone, how can they do, and how to, like, take out this part and take out this camera and do this and do that.
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Just ai as he was talking about overall government surveillance of everybody, which, by the way, I don’t think a lot of people know what he did. He’s he said, look, the the American government is illegally, illegally ai on its own people. Oh, yeah. And and ai the way, hadn’t told them illegally, they weren’t allowed to.
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They the mafia guys, they had to get warrants from judges and shit to fucking to bug those cars. Now they don’t have to get shit.
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They don’t need shit.
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They just sai they have fucking planes with NC catchers flying around. They’re picking up right now or talking about it.
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100%. Every time I have a conversation, every text I send, even the fucked up ones, I go, well, someone’s got that.
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Oh, yeah. So that’s what they’re gonna say. So not only your money, ai, like, your whole search history, whatever’s in your fucking computer. I tell my kids I tell my kids, like, your phone is your whole human archive. And at some point, someone can take that thing and sai, this is, you know, evidence or this is this or this sort of like, you you have to make sure that your phone is, like you have to always be thinking.
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Because Not
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only that. If you’re in some sort of a trial, all that shit becomes public record. Yeah. That’s what gets really weird. Ai, there’s 2 different people that were involved in trials where my text messages to them became public and got printed in stories. One was Alex Jones, the other was Elon Musk. It’s very strange that they just have access to your text meh. Yeah. Like for what reason?
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Yeah.
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Ai because they’re talking to some guy that I know. Like what do you what do you like the fact that and and with the Alex Jones thing, they wanted every text message he and I had ever exchanged.
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01:29:02
Wow.
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01:29:03
Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you. So we got it down to whether or not he talked to me about Sandy Hook.
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01:29:08
That that’s another thing about this country. There has to be tort reform. Anyone can sue anybody for anything and not have to pay their lawyer. The lawyer can take 50 percent of the Crazy. It’s it’s it’s it’s extortion, and it’s just it’s it’s I don’t know. So there something has to change there because they’re just sitting there suing people because they can.
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01:29:28
Yeah. That’s, it’s a sport for people and it’s a way to make a living. I mean, it’s like gold digging. It’s a it’s a viable strategy, you know. It’s ambulate shapers. Yeah.
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There’s a
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01:29:37
lot of that. There’s a lot of that. Definitely a lot of that. Tort reform, that would be
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01:29:41
that would be
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a good thing. So
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we got tort reform, we got education.
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01:29:44
But I think what we’re talking about earlier with quantum computing and AI, I think we’re all in real trouble. Yeah. Because I think this society is gonna be completely reimagined and it probably will lean towards some sort of a more socialist existence because of necessity, because of this money thing.
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Because I I just really don’t know how you’re gonna accumulate real wealth, if everything becomes digital. I think if everything becomes digital, Ai, quantum compute, we’re gonna we’re we’re gonna have real chaos.
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01:30:13
Well, the problem with quantum is it’s gonna be okay. There’s a whole new so when when the the sort of West or or the north or the rich countries or whatever leave everyone else behind, you know, monetarily is when, you know, the the last 20 years of of of digital expansion.
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01:30:33
And we just make, you know, $1,000,000,000,000 companies, and they’re over here, and we make all that money in that account. And then you go to, like, 2 thirds of the world, and that shit that hasn’t even penetrated yet. Right? So it’s like so quantum computing is that on steroids because it’s like, oh, there’s gonna be a whole new economy because all the other computers are fucking obsolete.
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01:30:51
All the security is obsolete. There’s a whole new economy being generated. Who’s it gonna be generated by? The ultra smart, ultra early adopters, super, like, you know, fucking rich people who can afford the quantum shah blah blah. Right.
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01:31:05
And everybody else is going even further fucking that way going, there’s no more fucking fish.
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01:31:09
Right. And if you’re just, like, you know, $125,000 a year, like, that’s what we’re gonna be dealing with.
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So people ai
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looking for inter incremental improvements in their life where they don’t have any other way to make money. It’s sana they’re stuck on the dole, And we we could have an entire class of society that’s just stuck on the dole forever.
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Which gets larger and larger.
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01:31:31
Yeah. Which gets larger and larger, especially as technology increases to the point where almost all jobs are irrelevant. Like, Hollywood is in deep shit. They’re in real, real, real deep shit.
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01:31:42
Ai was about because Ai doing it with news myself. You can meh, like so when you do news, you get, like you have news services. Right? So you get a news service. You get a ai, comes in. You go, oh, fuck. There’s a somebody fucking blew up the car. And you you have a news team. So you send out shooters and you send out a producer and they’re fucking, hey. Ai know what I’m saying?
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And then he comes back. And I would say news should be called olds because you’re just sitting there 3 days ago. Something happened by me. Right. With AI, it comes in right away. This just happened in Gaza. You can have video.
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01:32:11
You can have you can sai, I want Walter Cronkite in black and white reading me my news from Reuters. Right?
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01:32:17
Right.
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01:32:18
It can be Peter Jennings circa saloni out color from Vietnam era. It could be nineties era. It could be Sai want Pravda Sai fucking Russian Soviet. Ai, you can pick your own newscaster reading you verified news, right, right away before anybody else, before Fox, before fucking MSNBC, before CNN, for anybody, BBC. Anybody.
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01:32:39
And you’re like, why wouldn’t you do that? Right. So if yeah. Of course. And but if you take that a step further, everyone can become their own, you know, movie director. Because you can just plug in your story.
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01:32:50
If you sana talk about art, you can plug in your story. Make a movie. You you do it through prompts,
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01:32:56
and it’ll do it almost instantaneous. Yeah. That’s what’s gonna be so bizarre. And then the real problem with that is if AI is controlling the news, like, who’s controlling AI? Like, what what control arya we gonna get to a point where we say, you know, we’re gonna have to let sentient AI control information?
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Then we find out that sentient AI is withholding information from us because it doesn’t think we’re emotionally stable enough to process it, which we probably aren’t.
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01:33:19
Yeah. Yeah.
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01:33:20
You know, if it there’s some sort of a a civil turmoil that could happen because some information gets released.
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01:33:25
If you were AI now and we’re looking at the shah we’re doing, you’d sai, yeah, these guys don’t know
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01:33:29
what the fuck is it?
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01:33:30
We gotta take them. They’re not good for this planet.
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01:33:32
Yeah. We would corner Zelensky and go, what are
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01:33:34
you up to? No. I’m not saying Ai all that money going? Saying, like, you have a news like, you have a service comes in. It’s still people, but you have ai service. And then the AI can make the images or can make the video or whatever. But, I mean, look. When you when you look at media, you’re like, oh, it’s that’s why the strike happened because they know. You could everyone can can make their own fucking movie.
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01:33:54
Everyone can make their own TV show. Ai gonna and that’ll be the thing. It’ll be ai individualistic creators. It’s not gonna be big studios and shit anymore. Yeah.
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01:34:01
And and and that’s but that’s just media. Like, it’s gonna be every fucking business. Every business. Every business. Smith and Ricardo were ai who wrote, you know, the basis of capitalism. They’re like, ai.
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01:34:13
Well, you know, they’re both apologists for the for the industrial revolution as was Karl Marx. But they were like, yeah. You know, the the the the blueberry pickers will have to move to the cities and become ironmongers. And and, you know, that’s that’ll that’ll happen. And they’re like, well, blueberry pickers can’t, like, forge iron. And ai go, well, you know, a generation will ai, and then they’ll figure it out.
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And Right.
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01:34:35
So it’s it’s that that was the problem. And and, you know, that’s sana be the problem with AI is, like, there will be this thing of, like, people moving to building tables or making art or doing whatever. But there’s gonna be this is why I think our kids are maybe okay. But, like, when you said what I worry about is the 40 year olds sitting there who bought it all, went to high school, went to college, did all the shit, got the fucking job or sitting there, you know, trying to climb the ladder, and that’s all gonna go away.
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It’s all gonna go away. And Coding unnecessary.
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01:35:03
You’re right. Like, don’t become alcoholic because, like, it’s probably the biggest freeing thing Right. Ever. But, like, yeah, there has to be okay. Like, just pay that fucking person
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01:35:13
Right.
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01:35:13
So that they don’t lose their fucking house. Because if you start losing your house Right. If you Smith and Ricardo it and start losing your house, ai I this is my long winded thing to go is there has to be some sort of weird social thing about it. Because if you just let them fucking die off, they’re not gonna die off. They’re gonna say Yeah.
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01:35:30
Yeah. Yeah. That’s the fear. The fear is rebellion, and I don’t think that’s necessary. I think, clearly, there’s something happening to the human species that’s technology driven and we’re moving into a completely new way of existing and it’s gonna be a tumultuous journey.
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The the the transformation, the process is gonna be scary.
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Yeah.
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It’s gonna be very fucking strange because it’s gonna be unprecedented in its impact and the speed of its impact. Speed. Yeah. The speed is gonna be, you know, the Internet, it took a couple decades before we figured out how fucked up it is. You know, it came around in ai 19 nineties. People started using it, you know, ai everywhere. You’ve got mail.
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And then 2000, you arya getting fucked up videos and craziness. And then along comes social media and everybody’s ai, oh meh god. Everyone’s connected and everyone’s addicted and and then you’re getting all this negativity because that’s what attracts views. Uh-huh. So your algorithms entirely information. Yes. Overwhelming.
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Some of it, I love because it’s like, wow. Yeah. You know, I didn’t know vatsal, and you find out that it’s true. So you’re like, wow. That’s pretty funny. Yeah. And then a lot of it, you’re like, what the fuck? And that’s not true. And you’re like, Kanye. Yeah.
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And sai, by the way, a lot of people have an axe to grind. That’s the other problem. CCP Ai Communist Party are are are openly saying they’re trying to fuck with our social media.
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Oh, they were.
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As is the free Syrian arya, as are the Iranians, as are, like As are we. As are we. But we
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are fucking with it. Ai 100% guaranteed there’s some sort of government agency that’s involved with, like, just distributing narratives and and arguing against certain things.
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Also, if you go to Russia, they’re like, yeah. You have the ruble. We are trying to fuck with you. Yeah. We’re definitely trying to fuck with you.
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Of course.
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And you’re like, okay. So if you’re openly trying to fuck with us Yeah. And ai the way, can you imagine if the Chinese Communist Party is spreading propaganda that there’s $28 rig sai, then what are they gonna do when they have quantum computing?
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Right. Well, once they have quantum computing, we’re fucked financially.
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It’s a race between us and them.
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Because as soon as someone has that with AI, the whole financial institutions crumble. We’re we’re gonna be in a giant mess and I don’t understand how they could ever figure out a way to stop that.
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Yeah. I
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just don’t I see as technology scales up, it’s just gonna have more power and more access. And the innovation is gonna come sai fast. Yeah. You’re not gonna be able to keep up with it. And then all of a sudden, it’ll be too late.
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Yeah. Remember when we were growing up, there was a big thing about, like, how you adopt technology. It takes you, like, 10 years to adopt it. What was it called? It was it was a term for it. It was a big deal in the eighties nineties about culture lag, tech sai, ai. You remember this?
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No? No. It was a big it was a big concept when I was growing up anyway.
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How long it takes society to adapt to a new
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technology?
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To a new technology. And it was a big deal and culture lag, something like that. And there’s ai, the the speak with which quantum is sana change every quantum, sorry, quantum married with AI. Right. The speed with which it changes everything is gonna be ai I mean, it I I don’t think we’re even gonna be able to sort of process that change.
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No. I think it’s gonna happen so quick. And I I have the craziest thought about it that just keeps popping into my head is that I think that we are creating a new life form. Alright. That’s what I really
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With AI? Yeah. Well, that’s been the that’s what this is sort of been the
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But Ai think that’s what the universe does. I think that’s probably where all these all these alien encounters are. I don’t think they’re biological anymore. I think life gets to a certain point where it it gets so smart that it creates a new version of itself that’s superior.
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I mean, we get to aliens.
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Either it merges with ai. I think that’s what the aliens are. I think they’re us.
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They’re us.
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Ai are us
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in the future.
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Ai think there’s parallel So
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that’s the mathematical thing. Right? Yeah. It’s more mathematically plausible than it’s us in the future than we evolved this ai.
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Well, it’s also probably other civilizations from other places that are far more advanced that have figured out a way to get here and it might be interdimensional travelers, which sounds ridiculous until you talk to actual physicists that can tell you it’s provable.
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Yeah. Dark matter, dark energy.
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10 or 11 don’t even know what that is. Is that just a lack of an understanding of what the fuck is going on?
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Well, I love I love that. Did you ever Ai if you haven’t you Taylor Wilson, who’s like the fucking genius, genius, genius of all genius physicists. He’s a young kid. Built a functioning fusion reactor in his Reno garage when he was 13 years old. Michio Kako did something like that.
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This guy is is next fucking level. Michio Caco,
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I think he made a particle collider in his house.
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Supers he he refined his own yellow he staked claims and got uranium and turned it into yellow cake. I mean, I’m
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That’s nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How old is his kid? 30.
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Now he’s 30, but he and when he he was 13 so he was 13, the government took him. Jeez. I’ve been there. I’ve been that’s his
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I’ve ai super nerd.
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He’s so amazing. He’s on but, like, whenever you sana talk about anything, that has to do with physics, he’s the guy. And but what I what I love about it is, like, I think he was part of the team. I don’t wanna get anybody in any trouble. I think he was part of the team where he knew about it anyway. He explained it to me.
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The guys in Peru, you know, with the fucking the most advanced telescope. And they’re
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like Ai?
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Yeah. They’re like, the planets are all here. Right? And they should be here. They’re not in the right place. And and and somebody had to go, the math is wrong. I I like to believe it’s him, but maybe somebody said the math is wrong. And they’re like, the math is wrong. That’s all of the math. That’s ai physics is wrong. Yeah. Physics is wrong.
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So, like, because there’s too much gravity to keep all the planets in play, they should be fucking flying off. And sai, like, okay, ai% of the universe, we can’t see. It’s dark matter, dark energy. And and there’s now there’s there’s things that are deep in the coal ai, and they have, like, these baths of some gas, which they can see the weekly interacting molecular particles, WIMPs.
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And they, have to been this, like, now the 5th dimension, which is now leading to there’s infinite fucking universes and infinite possibilities and infinite. So you’re not crazy because physics is now saying all of this shit is fucking probable. Yeah. You know, so that’s one thing.
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2 is when I was talking to a very smart person I’m not gonna say anything because I don’t give any trouble. But they’re like, look, Interstellar travel isn’t sana be you and I go on a fucking spaceship. Right? It’s gonna be there’s you download your brain into a computer. It goes ai via laser into another thing that’s got a 3 d printer of a human that resembles you or might not resemble you.
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And it goes and it downloads, and that’s how you go these vast distances in space. And you’re like, oh.
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Maybe.
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So but if they’re doing that in the few maybe. But if they’re doing I’m not saying that that’s it. That’s where you’re But if it does happen, then it makes sense that you got these these mixes. If you’re downloading your brain into a computer, then it’s possible that ai brain gets mixed up with AI.
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But what does that even mean? Ai, what what is the thing is, like, what is your bryden? And is the soul a real thing? Because I tend to think the soul is a real thing.
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I do too.
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I I think there is some sort of a life force that’s inside of you that’s not just your heart beating.
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Mhmm.
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I think there’s a thing inside of people and I think you recognize it when you’re around people, and I think it’s one of the most unique aspects of being a conscious creature is that we think of us we think of ourselves as individuals, but we’re really connected to some great well of soul.
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The field. Yeah.
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Yeah. There’s something that’s going on where we’re all in this together in some bizarre way that’s, for some reason, very difficult for us to recognize in normal regular life. It’s hard for us to like, you you get these moments where you feel it, whether it’s a psychedelic experience, a near death experience, sai a profound love feeling.
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The joy?
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Yeah. There’s the birth of a child. Yeah. There’s moments in life where you feel like everything’s connected. Like, you you see, like, through the curtains Yeah. And you get a chance. Oh, god. God. This is so much bigger than us.
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Or creativity. Bigger than everything. When something just comes to you
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and you’re like,
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where the fuck did that come from?
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Right. It’s the yeah. It’s in the it’s in this it’s in the space around you somehow or another. Ai, there’s that’s the concept of, like, consciousness being, like, what you’re actually is tuning in to what’s out there. It’s not local. Like, your consciousness is not this local thing. Your your bryden, though the local thing is just an antenna. Yeah.
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And it’s it’s distributing this consciousness to your unique biology and unique life experiences and where you live and who you’re friends with and what you interact with on a daily basis, what kind of energy you get in, what kind of energy you put out, and it’s all somehow or another bizarrely connected to the way the whole universe works.
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Yeah.
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That it all works together as one unique ai system.
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Yeah. Religion Yeah. Philosophy, also ai, it always ai, yeah, there’s one thing out there. Yeah. You know, it’s and and you’re like, what the fuck it is? And that’s, ai, I mean, that’s what it comes down to is, like, consciousness. And as you get older and more mortal and realizing we don’t have that much more time, that’s the kind of shit.
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That’s why I said it’s stupid to think that when you’re 19 to study philosophy and religious ai, when you get older and you’re feeling more mortal and your brain’s open to it, you’re ai, what the fuck are we doing here? What’s it all about?
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You know, that’s the craziest theory that, came from the Bob Lazar stuff. The craziest, you know, the Bob Lazar stuff. The stuff the guy was working back engineering UFOs for the government in ai eighties.
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Oh, this is what I’ve been waiting the whole fucking time to get into.
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He told the same story.
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More about.
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This ai told the same story for 30 plus years. It’s the same story. He was an engineer. He worked at, Los Alamos Labs and, then he left there and they hired him to do propulsion work.
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Right.
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And they brought him in and they showed him this thing that had an American flag on it and he was ai, it had an American flag sticker on it. He was like, oh, they’re ours. That’s why everybody’s seeing these things. This is like some top secret thing that we’re working sana.
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And slowly but surely and again, this is not fact.
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This is
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just his story.
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Right.
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Slowly but surely over time of he’s brought in to analyze this thing, tell us how it works. He ai, like, this is not ours. It’s too small. The the the ship was made for 3 foot tall inhabitants. Everything looked like it was 3 d printed. There was no seams. There was no bolts.
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The whole thing had no there was no electronics. It somehow or another was connected to the minds of the pilots, and it had some sort of a reactor that had a stable form of element 115, which was just theoretical at the time. You know, it wasn’t even proven until they proved it with a particle collider in, like, the 2000.
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So this guy was telling the story about how they have this element. And so why this element with radiation and it makes this gravity propulsion device and it would sai one of the things that he said was that they had a very thick book that was all information about religion and that this was one of the things that they had got from these alien inhabitants that we are vatsal, that they look at us as containers for souls.
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Well, that’s the that’s psychology.
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A little duddy, but but also, like, if just think about this. That sounds crazy that we’re vessels for souls, but imagine if the life force of a soul is a real thing that’s limited to biological organisms, but then you create life that is not biological and you create this thing that is a sentient life force that’s digital, completely digital, but it doesn’t have a life force.
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It doesn’t have soul to it. Now imagine you bridge the gap with ai. So you have a thing that is part alive, part of biological organism, and part interconnected. And it needs to be if it if it wants to continue to have creativity and desire and needs, and it it it it actually has a task that it wants to accomplish and that this has to be connected somehow or another to biology.
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And that if you want biology, you have to have a soul.
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It’s interesting because I speaking of kids, I believe that humanity is a grand evolutionary experiment because a lot of the things that happened to you are weird. Like when you have a kid, you change. And when men have kids, they change. When women have kids, they change. Kids change.
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Like, ai know, all these things have and it’s just like this thing of, like, we have to do it. We have to do it. And and it puts you on a path and you’re ai, are we a grand evolutionary experiment? And if so, why?
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Well, if this is what the universe does when it creates superior beings, it kinda makes sense that we have all the attributes that we have. Mhmm.
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It
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makes sense that we’re territorial. It makes sense that we fight over resources. It makes sense that we’re competitive. And it makes sense that we’re inquisitive and that we constantly search for innovation. We want the newest best stuff all the time We have throughout human history.
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We’ve always aspired to have the best plows, the best trucks, the best this, the best that. We always want better and and we’re always working on these things. Yeah. What does that lead to? That leads to artificial intelligence. Mhmm. It it’s almost like that’s what we’re doing.
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We’re making this cocoon and the ai sana gonna come out of the cocoon, and we don’t even know why we’re making it. We’re just fucking toiling saloni, doing our thing. And it also connects to materialism because one of the things that materialism does is it it encourages innovation.
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Yeah. And
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it encourages constant purchasing of goods. If the phones that we have right now are perfect and we never have to get a new phone, all ai have to do is repair them. It would just be repair shops everywhere. Ai would need a new phone. There would be no need for innovation.
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Light bulbs.
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Yeah. Yeah. Right. But, well, light bulbs were better. They used to be better because they didn’t burn out.
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01:49:21
They never burned out.
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Yeah. But then they came out with the LED light bulbs and, like, oh, it’s actually even better
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because then they don’t, you know I like the old light bulbs.
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01:49:28
They’re all cool.
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They never burned out.
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They are cool?
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01:49:30
No. Those ones burned out. No. The original the original light bulbs never burned out.
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01:49:34
Yeah. They just have to make the film as bigger.
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01:49:36
Yeah. We’re just ai, nah.
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Make it so they die off. Yeah. Fuck those people.
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01:49:41
Make them buy another light bulb. There you
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go. Oh,
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yeah. All the time.
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01:49:44
Yeah. You shut the lights out. You’re gonna burn the light bulbs.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And then they burn. They get black in the bottom, but, like, shah, meh lost the light bulb.
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01:49:50
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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01:49:52
But if phones were I mean, if we’re satisfied phones are so good. Why do we need new phones? Yeah. But we do. How old are they? Ai 16 is coming out. Are you gonna get it? Oh, Samsung has a 20 ai 25’s Got a better zoom. Yeah. And you just fucking keep hopping on that.
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01:50:06
It’s just a normal thing that we do. We do it with computers. We do it with everything. We do it with cars and I think that that’s
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just a
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constant thirst
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01:50:15
Was it Moore’s technology? Moore’s Law?
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01:50:17
Yeah. Moore’s Law. But Moore’s Law is out the window.
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01:50:19
It’s out the window now.
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01:50:20
It could it’s all exponential anyway as soon as all this stuff gets popped out. As soon as we give birth to that AI demon So
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01:50:26
I I cut you off when I shouldn’t have because I was wanting to hear you talk to more people who are more connected about aliens than anybody else. Sai wanted to sort of mind that a little bit. So so so so he it’s 3 foot high aliens who have or we have their technology in Arya 54 or whatever.
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01:50:45
Supposedly. Area 51. Supposedly. S 4. Area 51, s 4
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is where
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we ai.
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Sai?
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I
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don’t know. You know, I don’t know I don’t know how much of it’s bullshit. Ai? So whatever it is, you have to say some of it’s bullshit. That it seems like the United States government is spending an inordinate amount of time studying these things. There seems like there’s a ton of whistleblowers.
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There’s a ton of programs that most of us did not know about. So why do these programs exist? So it is either a top secret drone program that has a super sophisticated propulsion system that’s far beyond anything that we’re aware of today.
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Mhmm.
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That’s probably true as well. But, also, the universe is filled with stars. The universe is filled with planets. The odds that none of them have life are very low. There’s Fermi’s paradox, like, where are they? Well, they probably don’t want us to know too much about what they are because they want us to figure out a way
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01:51:43
Our brains will be blown.
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01:51:44
Well, also, like, get to the next level. Right. Get to the next level and keep getting don’t you don’t just fly in and give people death rates.
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01:51:52
It’s like Star Trek.
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01:51:53
You can’t
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you can’t change their Yeah. Evolution and stuff.
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I would imagine the correct the correct path is to let people evolve. Meh people make these mistakes Sure. Figure it out, have revolutions, have elections Yeah. Have innovation, have this constant desire.
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Also, if they come, then we think, oh, there’s the gods, there’s the things, there’s the angels, there’s the whatever
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it is. Exactly. That’s the problem too. And then, also, I think there’s probably an interdimensional aspect to it. There’s probably some things that aren’t even real that you’re seeing, but they are real somewhere else, and you have a window to them. There’s probably bizarre states of consciousness where the a certain amount of psychedelic chemicals are released by your brain in a certain level of ai, in a certain environment and circumstance where you have access to a frequency that’s not normally available to you.
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01:52:43
Yeah. And I think some people are having these kind of experiences and they’re calling them aliens. I but I I do think there’s something going on with crafts. And the thing about these crafts is they existed way before there’s any reasonable assumption that people had technology that could do those things, like the Kenneth Arnold ai from the 19 fifties are the best example.
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01:53:04
Something that was moving far faster than anything that we had, silent, looked like a saucer skipping over the ai. They saw like a bunch of them flying around. Yeah. These guys are fighter jet pilots. They don’t have a history of making up things. They’re not liars and there’s a ton of those sightings. Yeah.
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01:53:20
And those sightings go way back. They go way back and it’s probably some of the stories in the ai and the Bhagavad Gita, you know, there’s there’s a bunch of stories about flying things and flying chariots and wars in the sky. There’s some wild shah. And you gotta imagine that if this is a long saloni process that every intelligent being goes through in the universe. Mhmm.
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01:53:45
This is just like we look out, we sai all these different planets that are in the Goldilocks zone. So we know that the kind of life that we have can can exist in these planets. How many of them have people or things or some form of super intelligent organism? Yeah. Probably infinite numbers. Probably infinite numbers, and they probably visit emerging civilizations.
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01:54:09
It just makes sense. Just like we would. Just like we would visit a stone age culture and watch them from afar. If we found some lost tribe in Siberia, you know, with fucking
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01:54:21
But the island of India, you know, like Yes.
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01:54:23
North Sentinel Island. Yeah. There’s there’s tons of examples of how we behave in those situations, and we’re retarded. You imagine something that’s far more advanced than us. It would be much more sophisticated in its approach, probably would occasionally abduct people and study their biology, probably does have a way to erase memories, probably does leave people with, like, significant trauma and confusion as to, like, how this experience is real.
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01:54:48
What how do you put in the context of your normal day to day life? Ai. You can’t. How come it never happens again? Yeah.
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01:54:53
You’re just sitting home, like, this is gonna happen again? And then the rest of your life, you’re like freaked out that the walls are gonna melt and also, you know, you’re gonna be on a spaceship again? If that is real, like, who fucking knows? And those those people imagine being one of those poor people that does get abducted by aliens and everybody thinks you’re an idiot.
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01:55:08
Everybody thinks you’re a liar, everybody thinks you’re a fool. Oh, Mike lost his mind. Thinks he got abducted by aliens. Meanwhile, Ai really did.
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01:55:17
Well, that’s gonna be a problem when when when people finally find out. They’re gonna be like, hold on a second now. It’s
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01:55:23
gonna be a real problem, and I think it’s a slow trickle. So I think that that’s what we’re experiencing and I think this is normal. I think there’s, like, deep denial in the 19 sixties and there’s also Operation Blue Book, which is a concerted effort to dismiss all the sightings as illegitimate and swamp gas.
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01:55:39
Ai mean, J. Allen Hynek who ran that program eventually when he left the program became a huge UFO believer and then completely changed his tune and explained how he was told to debunk everything. Wow.
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There was
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a bunch of things that he couldn’t debunk. Ai think the number is like ai 10. 90 percent of the things you could you oh, that’s the that’s Venus. That’s this. That’s that. 10%, there’s no fucking way.
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01:56:00
Right.
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01:56:00
This is, like, whatever this is, there’s physical evidence. There’s a bunch of shit. Something happened. And he was a believer before he died, a big and a proponent and would talk about UFOs openly. And I think there’s too many of those guys for it all to be bullshit. There’s too many people for it all to be bullshit, but some of it is bullshit and some of it is ours.
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01:56:20
I think some of it is I ai some of it might be back engineered. I think some of the Bob Lazar stuff might be legitimate, like, they they found things, whether these things were left behind for us to discover, whether they, you know, made some sort of a deal.
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01:56:34
Right.
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01:56:35
But I think I think there’s intelligent life other than human beings that interacts with us.
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01:56:40
Bongo.
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That’s what Ai.
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01:56:42
Yeah. Look, it’s interesting. My whole thing is, I don’t know, but it’s interesting. And why and why and why not, like, look into it and why not read about it and why not I mean, people are ai, wow. Is everyone’s this is the other thing, not just with this, with everything. Everyone’s so dismissive about everything.
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You know, I know a lot of you’re a fucking wing nut if you Yeah. If you believe in that shit or if you read about it or if you sana look into it. I’m ai, I have questions. Right. I wanna ask questions.
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Why why is it bad to ask questions? Right. Why can’t I talk about why can’t I think about by the way, people will freak out that we’re talking about. And you’re like, why? You’re just we’re 2 guys chopping it up, like, on your front porch and and and be like, look. Let’s ask questions. You’re an interesting guy.
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You meet a lot of interesting people, so you are well informed. Well informed, I’d say better than I’d say ai, 99% of people. Okay. Let’s talk about it. That’s interesting.
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Yeah. No? It is interesting. I think so. Yeah. Obviously, a lot of people agree. It’s just you’re always gonna have people complaining. You just can’t listen.
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Yeah.
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That’s the thing. It’s ai if you live your life by the whim of people that are willing to complain openly about almost anything, you’re gonna live a terrible life. Yeah. And these kind of things, if they’re not fascinating to you, that’s fine. That’s that’s you. But I don’t know how you could not be fascinated by congressional disclosures, whistle blowers talking about programs that are beyond ai, that are retrieving engineering them.
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And we’ve been doing this for decades. Because if they’re telling the truth, either this is a spectacular lie or they’re telling the truth. Yeah. And if they’re telling the truth, how the fuck are you not interested?
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How are you not interested? What I have to go another level, is the problem that I have is you’re like, okay, we’re interested in big pharma. We’re interested in big food. We’re interested in oil. We’re interested in military industrial meh. We’re interested in all this stuff.
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But if you start talking about aliens or if you start talking about this or if you start talking about multidimensional whatever, people will it negates all the other stuff you’re talking about. Why?
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Only the idiots. There’s way more people that are even the New York Times in 2017, they see That’s
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a good point.
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Posted legitimate journalism on.
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Oh, that’s a good point.
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01:58:53
On UFOs and But a
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lot of people. You got, you know Sure.
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There are a
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lot of people.
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You can’t listen to them people. There’s a lot of people that could join a cult. Yeah. Like, if you wanted to start a cult, you could probably do a really good job. You probably have a lot of people in your cult. So It’d be really
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easy to do. Ai cult around.
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Pretty easy to do. Yeah. Right? Why? Because a lot of people are gullible and they’re stupid. It’s easy to get people to do things.
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It’s
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easy to get people mad. It’s easy to get people that think that Donald Trump is Hitler and it’s easy to get people to think that Donald Trump is Jesus. It’s ai there’s a lot of opinions out there and that’s fine. That’s part of the fun of life. That
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is.
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And morons and their stupid opinions is also flavor.
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It’s a little bit
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of flavor in the the soup of life.
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01:59:28
There you go. Salt and pepper.
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Yeah. And sometimes morons learn.
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01:59:32
I I sai and pepper, yin and yang. I wanted to I I saw that on your thing. The what was it? The molecule that the life
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01:59:38
We still can’t figure out exactly what that is. So what this is is quantum entangled photons. Yeah. And the image that you’re seeing in these quantum entangled foe photons is a yin and yang symbol.
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01:59:50
Wow.
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But we’re trying to figure out, and this is where it gets, like, in the weed scientifically. Is that what it looks ai, or did you make it look like that to represent these quantum entangled photons, but the shape is arbitrary, ai, you chose a shape to get these quantum entangled photons to exist in.
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I don’t know how you would do that. I don’t know I don’t know this. I don’t understand the way they’re recording it. I don’t understand the technology behind it. I don’t understand the science behind it.
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02:00:21
Here we go. Here we go.
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Scientists have used first of its kind technique to visualize 2 entangled light particles in real ai, making them appear as a stunning quantum yin yang
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So we don’t know if that’s how it looks or if they the scientists made it
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look that way. Again, I’m reading this. I don’t know what to tell you.
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Right.
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A reconstruction of a holographic image of 2 entangled photons.
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Right.
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The new method called biphoton digital holography uses an ultra high precision camera and could be used to massively speed up the future quantum measurements. So there so this is the where the way it’s worded go back to the way it’s worded.
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It’d be insanely cool if
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The way it’s worded is just weird. Yeah. It’s a first of its kind technique to visualize Yeah. 2 entangled light particles in real ai. But this is the part that gets meh, making them appear as a stunning quantum yin yang symbol.
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You don’t know.
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It’s ai, what are you saying?
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Yeah. It’s not clear. Yeah. It would be But it would be fucking cool if it was true.
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Yeah. It would be super cool if it was true. But Yeah.
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I think they made something that so
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that they would know if it worked. If it’s Ai,
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yeah. We’re giving this. As long as we see this at the end result,
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then success. Right. So, like, I don’t understand that.
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I don’t understand it either.
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That’s dumb too stupid for this conversation. But just the fact that you that we know that quantum entangled particles are real. Yeah. Just the fact that we know this spooky action at a distance that Einstein talked about. The fact that we know that quantum particles can exist in a state of motion and still at the same ai, they could be in superposition?
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Like, what do you sai? They they they go in and out of existence. It’s measurable. Yeah. We don’t know where they go. Yeah. We don’t know what’s happening. Yeah.
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It’s magic.
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It’s magic.
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It’s all magic. And then the fact that atoms arya, like, mostly empty speak, like, what does that even mean? Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. What does that mean? How are they connected? Like, the just the the nature of existence itself is magical.
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02:02:11
Yeah. When I so when Sai went out into to with Taylor Wilson and he he was picking up fucking yellow, like, uranium and turning a yellow cake. And he was just speaking to me, ai, because to talk about someone who’s interesting. And he’s ai, woah. I mean, we all know that, like, uranium is is like stars, you know, parts of stars that explode and, like, hit the earth because they flew through.
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Sai we’re just taking a shah that landed on earth, and we’re taking a piece of it, and then we’re releasing its power. And I’m like, I didn’t know that. He’s ai speak like everybody knows that. And I’m like, wait a minute. Uranium is like an x star that blew up that landed on Earth, and then you can take it, and that’s how you do it. And he’s like, yeah.
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Well, we are that. We are that. Yeah. Ai mean, with that song,
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we are But but
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but but uranium is ai the sort of the fucking, like, the concentrated, you know. And you’re like, oh, you’re making ai that the fusion reactor is making a shah. So you’re making a star out of a star.
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Yeah. You you’re taking stardust and turning into a star. Woah. What the fuck? How smart are people?
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People are fucking smart.
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They’re pretty amazing and you need that in order to power quantum computing by
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the way.
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You need multiple nuclear reactors to power quantum computing. That’s the smart. All of it’s bananas, man.
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It’s bananas.
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It’s all I mean, thank God there’s so many different kinds of people because there’s people that are wholly obsessed in pursuing that.
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Yeah. And then there’s ai, I guess, who will talk about it.
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Yeah. Ai not exactly know
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what they’re talking about. Wow. I think this is what it is. Yeah. Taylor’s gonna call me and go, what the fuck are you talking about here?
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02:03:42
I’m I’m so fascinated by the people that studied just the universe itself because they’re constantly dealing with new data ai this James Webb Telescope thing is ai thrown everything into a tizzy. Yeah. You know, though, there’s these new red spots that were there, the formation of the universe. They don’t know what the fuck they are and they went away.
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Love it.
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Yeah. Like, what is that?
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Love it.
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Hey, quit. Here, I’ll send it to you, Jamie. Because it’s one of those ones where you’re ai you read it and you’re like, what does that even mean? What what are you saying? Like, what is this?
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02:04:10
Yeah. That’s why I love to interview people who are much smarter than me because, again, I only understand half of what they’re saying. But Yeah. Sai it’s It is. I mean, it does because we think we know what we’re talking about, especially, like, scientists and physicists physicists and everybody. And then something will happen.
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They’re ai, yeah, that was all bullshit. It’s all new now.
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02:04:29
This is it on ai science. James Webb Telescope found hundreds of little red dots in the ancient universe. We still don’t know what they are.
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Yeah.
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Small galaxies are either crammed with stars or they host gigantic black holes. The data astronomers have collected continues to puzzle them. And then there’s the data where they’re finding galaxies that were formed too quickly. Yeah. So it’s throwing into like, they’re they’re starting to consider the possibility that the universe is far older than they thought
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02:04:53
it was. It’s it’s amazing. I love it. I love it. It’s nuts. I love it.
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And it’s probably filled with life just like us. There’s probably people doing stupid shit all over the universe.
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Can you imagine Yeah. If they fucking finally find out and they were yeah. Ai Egypt. Mhmm. What do you got there?
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Nicotine.
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Uh-huh. No. I want I thought it was I thought it was one of those Onnit mushroom things. Which, by the way, you sent me and I ai them.
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02:05:19
Which ones did you use? Alpha Bryden? Alpha Brain. Alpha Brain. Ai not mushrooms. We have a mushroom one too. I have a
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I would
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02:05:25
It’s called mushroom. Shroom cake. Yeah. That’s a workout one. Whatever you sent.
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02:05:29
Yeah. That’s a cordyceps mushroom. It’s great for oxygen utilization. Yeah. You sent
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02:05:32
That shit’s legit. And do you
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02:05:34
not have to just buy it from us, from buy it from Onyx? Go get cordyceps mushrooms. Super legit endurance supplement. I ai
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02:05:40
it for 2 concentration.
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I did
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it for concentration. It was great. Oh, it’s
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02:05:43
well, that’s Alpha Brain.
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02:05:44
That’s Alpha Brain. That’s
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02:05:45
Yeah. Alpha Brain is the the nootropic. That’s the Alpha Brain. We have a black label that’s ai a super strong one now. It’s really good. But there’s That’s
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02:05:52
sai ai, but I love that. I love the you you gave it to me ai I was like, wow. This is fucking awesome.
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02:05:55
Nootropics are legit. And it’s not just out
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02:05:58
for meh. Just to not smoke?
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No. No. I don’t smoke. This is just, fun. Gives me a little extra energy.
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02:06:04
Wow.
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Just a little nicotine. Whee. Makes the brain fire up.
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02:06:08
Yep. It does. Yeah. Nicotine for the brain.
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02:06:10
It’s really good for your brain.
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02:06:11
Yeah. It
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actually is. It’s just terrible for your lungs.
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Yeah. Well, if you smoke.
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Yeah. The probably the best way is probably a patch. Yeah. But that just feels weird
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02:06:20
walking around with
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a patch.
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02:06:21
No. It’s no nicotine good for the brain? Bad for well,
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02:06:23
I know guys who do that when they work. They put a a nicotine patch on just for just Really? Nicotine is a legit nootropic as well. Yeah. Nicotine actually, like, positively affects cognitive function.
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Yeah. I knew I knew it was good for the bryden, but not the lung thing is more the smoking because it’s like when you burn something, it’s you have 3,000 carcinogens.
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02:06:42
Vape is fucking terrible for you too.
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02:06:43
Anything you burn in
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20
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02:06:45
Well, anything you’re putting into your lung. You’re putting chemicals in your lungs. They’re not supposed to go in there. Like, get fired up that way.
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02:06:50
Yeah.
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02:06:50
Except weed, of course, man. You know what’s another, unheralded, nootropic? Creatine. Creatine actually increases cognitive performance.
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I don’t know what creatine is.
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02:07:00
It’s a muscle supplement.
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02:07:01
Alright.
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It’s like a supplement that they figured out in the nineties, and people started equating it almost like steroids. Like, oh, ai, it was like a scandal that people were taking creatine.
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02:07:10
Like the it’s like powder.
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02:07:11
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it in gummy form. I get creatine gummies. Yeah. Just chew a few of them every day. Great for your brain. Great for your brain. Great for muscle recovery. There’s a bunch of different stuff that’s good for your brain. Yeah. You ever ai NeuroGum?
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02:07:25
I don’t try anything.
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02:07:26
NeuroGum is great. It’s just gum. It’s just gum. You chew it, and it’s got, theanine in it and a little bit of caffeine. Great for firing
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02:07:33
your brain. Try it.
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02:07:36
So when you’re doing this, podcast thing, do you have, like, a weekly schedule? You’re doing it twice a week?
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02:07:40
Yeah. We just started. I ai I’ve done, like, 5. And, like, again So
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02:07:44
you do it once a week?
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02:07:45
How often do you do it once
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a week?
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02:07:47
It’s gonna be once a week. And, I do I I, you know, I I I’m interested in a lot of stuff, and so I’m new to the podcast game. But I I start it’s ai basically, I start out it’s like they’re long. They’re like 3 partisan. It starts out with something I’m fascinated by that’s on social media.
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02:08:05
So for example, that’s the reason why I’m not talking to you about this stuff, but, like, you know, something could come up and there’s memes and ai the assassination attempt and then there’s conspiracy theories on both ai. And I’m like, everyone’s interested in it. Ai don’t we dig into it? But let’s dig in. Right.
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And
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so I dig in, and I, you know, I know a lot of people. I can call them, get access, and talk to them. I just ask questions. Again, I’m not I’m not and I don’t have, like I’m not trying to shoehorn anything into anything. I’m just, like, what? Just talk. Just let me go.
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02:08:31
What is this?
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02:08:32
Yeah. Yeah. And and so I find that really, really fun, really interesting.
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02:08:37
Are you mixing this in with investigative journalism? Are you, like, going places and talking to people?
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02:08:42
Yeah. So I’m doing it all together. And then I’m just meeting interesting people, and I’ll meet somebody interesting. I’ll just say, fuck it. We’ll just talk, and it’ll just be a straight podcast. And we’re just talking for, like, 30 minutes. Like, Peter Dale Scott blew my mind.
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02:08:55
And and, you know, there’s a lot of people out there. Like, it’ll be a mix of big names, but I also wanna go talk to the people who are, you know, putting stuff up and where they’re getting their stuff and where they’re getting their just dig in, basically. And you can dig in on the high end and dig in on the low.
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02:09:11
What I found is if you get in the creation of the meme and who’s creating it, it sort of starts as a wide thing. And then it goes down into, like, some sort of, like a philosophy or something bigger. And then you when you get to the people who are like, for example, with the assassination attempts, it got pretty quickly into the deep state.
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02:09:29
And I’m like, well, let’s talk about the deep state because everyone bandies the word around, but nobody fucking really knows what it is if you, like, wanna get into clinical explanations or have real positive facts about what are the, like, you know, historical evidence so that this exists and that they do this all the fucking time.
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02:09:48
Right. And so I’m like, okay. Let’s let’s chop it up and get into it. And that that was, like, you know, super fun. And and and so I’m getting into all the stuff that that I find interesting online and and and on, you know, in social media and saying, let’s just get into it.
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02:10:05
Yeah. Just whatever you’re interested in. Whatever
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02:10:07
Ai interested. The the thing ai, Sai I love all of this stuff. So, like, I mean, right now I’m doing a lot of political stuff because it’s the electoral ai. It’s crazy. Mhmm. And there’s a lot there’s a lot sai much fucking bullshit, ai, and and and when you see stuff, you’re ai, where is it coming from? Right.
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02:10:24
Like, where is this fucking coming from? Well, that’s just And you’re right. Everyone has an agenda. Sorry. Well,
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02:10:28
that’s just what’s so crazy about having so many different groups manipulating us through bots. That we don’t really know what people actually think. And the problem with people is they don’t really know what they actually think. They know, like, what speak like, there’s a a large percentage.
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02:10:45
I I’m gonna just say men because these are the ones that bother me the most. Sure. Men who say things because they know that people want to hear them and because they know it won’t get them in trouble to say it, and they don’t necessarily believe it. Like, it could be about trans athletes.
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02:11:02
It could be about, like, some sort of it’s a lot
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of it’s connected to
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woke stuff. Yeah. Politically correct. A lot of it’s connected to ai. You know, the like, they’ll have a super positive, gaslighting version of what’s going on at the bryden.
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02:11:16
You know,
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they’re they’re and they they do it because they have to.
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Super positive?
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Yeah. Super positive. Like, you know, it’s important. Immigration’s important, and, you know, it’s very difficult for these people ai. Okay.
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And
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they have this, like, bullshit. Yeah. Okay. Also, terrorists. Okay. Also murderers and rapists getting released from Venezuelan prisons making their way across the border. All that’s real.
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02:11:35
But there’s two sides to that story. That’s the one thing too, like, a 100%. So I I when I did my dive into immigration, you’re like because I the reason why I got into this, you see the gates opening up and people coming through. And I’m like, hold on a second. I’ve been reporting on the border for, I don’t know, 10 years. There’s no fucking gate where people fucking run through the gate.
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02:11:54
Right? Right. And then you look into the the thing and it’s ai, oh, yeah. Like, that was before the border. It’s after the bryden.
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02:12:00
And this they were trying to get to the border because what they try to do is, like, basically touch the fucking fence so that the border guards will then come sai that they can get processed. Right? Where people are just fucking coming in. Like, look. I’m an immigrant. Like, I know how it works.
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You have to come in and
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it’s Have you
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02:12:27
been down to the south?
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02:12:28
Yeah. We’ve been down to the south. We’ve rode the beast. We’re in the Darien Gap. Look. Hold on. Let before I get fucking into it but there’s on the other side, meh. It’s true. So there’s there’s an immigration problem, huge immigration problem. And there are bad people getting through, and there are cartels running things, and there are illegal people, and there are all the stuff.
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02:12:45
And ai the way, the Republicans have a great message that they stay on. The Democrats don’t have a response to that message. Right? They’re just it’s a political fucking quagmire. But I don’t care about the political quagmire. I’m like, let’s go down. We talked to the head of the border guards.
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02:13:00
We talked to the both the head of the border guards. We talked to sheriffs. We talked to militia dudes in in in Texas. We talked to we talked to everybody. Right? And the problem is is there’s just fucking shit on both sides and there’s no fucking sanity when it comes to immigration.
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02:13:16
There’s nobody really saying, okay, this is what’s happening here. This is what’s happening here. Yes. This is bad. But this is this and this is that and the other thing. And there’s 2 narratives.
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02:13:26
And one narrative is there’s open borders with rapists and murderers coming in and eating the cats and eating the dogs. And then on the other side, there’s no real, well, that’s not really happening. What happened was they they were in Meh, and now that they’re being released in here and and here’s the stats.
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02:13:41
80% are come to their to their, meetings, like their whatever the fuck it is. I’m forgetting the word now. But when they get, like, after they get processed no. But they get processed and then they have to come to a meeting and a meeting and a meeting. And the Democrats are like, yeah, it’s 85% sana and the and the Republicans are like ai% don’t come and ai% do come.
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02:14:00
And you’re like, well, where’s the fucking stats coming from? Can we not talk to Homeland? So we reached out to Homeland. We reached out to the fucking committee that runs immigration. We reached out to everybody.
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02:14:09
And this is why it gets so frustrating is because nobody is like, every every answer is different. Every answer is completely different. Sorry to interrupt. But that this is why I find it fascinating because there are especially on immigration, there are so many givens about what shit means.
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02:14:26
And in actual fact, like, an open border doesn’t mean an open border. It doesn’t mean you can just fucking walk across the border into America. That’s not that doesn’t happen.
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But some people are walking across the border into America.
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They’re getting smuggled or they’re trying to get to the border where they give themselves up to border guards who then process them. They become processed. They meh kicked out. They go back. They stay here. They and then they get fucking whatever. There’s there’s 50 thing different things that can happen.
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02:14:51
But, like, to me, when I saw the open bryden so they’ll still have a tweet. Right? Mhmm. And it’ll say open borders, and they’ll have a fucking gate opening with people running through that gate. Sai you think like, oh, that’s the gate to America that people are running through. Well, there’s a lot of openings.
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02:15:08
I mean, that’s that’s the
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thing about
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It turns out that that those that footage is all, of course, not true. There are there are openings in the sense of people can smuggle themselves in to the desert at night. We can’t
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smuggle, but people would just go across on their own accord too. It’s not just, like, smuggling.
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02:15:23
Well, there’s a lot of smuggling.
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There’s a lot of smuggling.
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Lot of it. I mean, a lot of it is run by the cartels Yeah. And which is bad. It’s horrible. Horrible.
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Well, there’s
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a lot of missing children.
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02:15:32
Exactly. That’s bad.
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It’s really it’s ai somewhere in the neighborhood of 300,000 missing
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children. Very bad.
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Scary.
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Very scary. And but I’m just saying, like, when you get into immigration as a thing, we’re getting into it now.
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So you
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get two narratives. 2 completely different narratives. And Near the Twain Chalamet, that’s the interesting thing. It’s usually eventually, you can get down to something. Right. And on this one, you’re ai you’re ai literally excuse meh. It literally depends on who you’re talking to. Right. I’m ai sip water.
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02:15:59
Yeah. That’s what’s scary about today is that it’s hard to figure out and depending upon what tribe you’re a part of. You know, if you’re the on the the tribe of the right, you think one thing, you’re on the tribe of the left
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02:16:11
Even if you’re tribalist, I’m sitting there going, okay, So they’ll talk to them about something. So I remember when I was interviewing Obama at the end of his presidency, I was like, you know, what are your big you know, and all he wanted to talk about was the Republicans.
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02:16:23
He didn’t sana talk about his presidency. So I went to go see see Speak Boehner because I was talking about Speak Boehner, who, by the way, lovely ai, great guy, and he wanted to talk about his thing. And so you ai and again, they’re the twin shall meh. And you’re ai, at at some point, you gotta get down to this kernel of truth.
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02:16:41
And on immigration, it’s almost impossible to find. Or maybe it is impossible to find.
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02:16:47
Well, the bottom line is a lot of people are being brought into this country and then being shipped to swing states. That’s real. That’s undeniable. The the percentage of people that are in swing states of illegal immigrants moving to swing states is off the hook. It’s crazy.
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02:17:02
It’s a bizarre number that seems to be a strategy. It seems to be
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a strategy. Because they can’t they can’t vote.
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02:17:08
Of course, you can eventually.
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02:17:09
They can’t.
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02:17:09
They’re trying to do that.
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02:17:11
I mean, you can vote, like, in 10, 20 years.
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02:17:13
Well, that was
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02:17:14
Is that what you’re it’s, like, gonna be a Yep.
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02:17:15
No ID voting. Okay. Right? This is something that they’re pushed in California and they pushed a lot of places. There’s only one reason to have no ID. That’s to have people that can vote that shouldn’t be voting. That’s the only reason. If you only want the people to vote that should be voting, you ask for ID.
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Right.
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Just like you ask for ID for everything else. For getting on an ai, for everything.
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02:17:33
I believe in Ai look, I believe in ID. I’m just saying But but listen I’m just saying if you’re not a citizen
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02:17:38
ID. The only reason to have no ID. And to push that, and it’s only being pushed by the Democrats. There’s only one reason that makes any logical sense. You want people to vote that probably shouldn’t be voting sai you can get some extra votes. That’s the only thing that makes sense.
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02:17:49
So then, if you have people like Nancy Pelosi who’s openly talked about giving amnesty to the people that are already here, you have voters now. So you have voters in swing states that you brought into this country and you provided them an amazing life, and the Democrats brought them there.
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02:18:02
They’re gonna be loyal to the Democrats, especially if the Democrats continue to provide them with housing and money. And why would you vote that out? Why would you vote for a bunch of people that wanna deport you? They’re talking about mass deportations.
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Yeah.
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Imagine if you came here from Haiti. You lived terribly poor life in Haiti. Now you have a good job in Springfield, Ai, and you’re like, I can’t fucking believe we’re in America. This is amazing. And someone comes along and gives you the ability to vote. And then another group is saying, we’re gonna mass deportate you because you people are eating all the dogs and all the cats.
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02:18:32
Then there’s, like, this fucking fee of course, you’re you’re getting voters. Yeah. You’re bringing in voters and you’re getting voters. You’re gonna get them to vote for you.
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02:18:40
Something I haven’t seen. I’ve I’m not denying it or fighting for you. That’s something we haven’t seen, like, personally.
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02:18:47
Right. We haven’t seen it, but it’s clearly a strategy ai you could employ. And if you were gonna employ that, wouldn’t you move those people to swing states? You would. And if you find out that there’s an app that you can use and you use this app and they’ll let you in the country, you can schedule Yeah.
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A a way to illegally move to the country and then you’re legally protected once you’ve done that. So it’s basically an open border.
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02:19:10
Okay.
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02:19:10
You know what I’m saying?
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Like, it’s not
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I do not know what the app the
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02:19:13
You know how hard it was for you to become an American citizen. Okay? It was very difficult. You came from Canada.
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02:19:17
A lot of time. Right.
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It takes a long time. Chamath was
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02:19:19
supposed to meh the sana. Ai to vote, long time to do the thing.
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02:19:22
And you have to give a reason why you’re supposed to be there. You you have to be an exceptional person. Yeah.
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02:19:26
You have to study in in ai I did, and Sai got a 100% of my ai. And
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I have
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a couple of friends of mine ai are just coming here from England. And, they wanted me I had us do this visa thing for you. Get like, give them a recommendation. But you have to be exceptional. You have to do something speak. Yeah. Or you can get on that app.
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02:19:42
Now You
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can just come over.
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02:19:44
Look, I’m not gonna get too into the app because Ai I’ve only did it through interviews. But the app is an actual thing that tracks the the people who come into the country. It’s it’s done by the homeland.
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02:19:57
It allows you to schedule
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02:19:59
It’s homeland following them around.
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02:20:01
It allows you to schedule an entrance into the country. Yes.
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02:20:05
They’re doing it to try to stop the waves of the illegals and making it somewhat legal. And in any case
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seems like it really it simplifies people being able to get in
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02:20:15
the country illegally. Actually not gonna defend it or talk about it anymore because I know the app exists, and I know what you’re talking about. Mhmm. And I know it’s you’re right. It does people do and they sign up to it and then and then they come and they get processed and then they wait for the thing and blah blah blah.
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02:20:27
What was the big argument on the debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz? Yeah. You know, and they tried to frame it as if this had existed for a long time and that’s when JD Vance shah to step up and stop them and say, you said you weren’t gonna fact check and that’s this is where that that’s not true.
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02:20:40
That app did not exist. You can literally schedule it. It used to be for people that are already here. Yeah. Like for, you know, what which we, you know, kids that were born in Mexico but have lived their entire life in America. Yeah.
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02:20:51
We gotta find out a way to citizenship for those folks. That’s fucking crazy.
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02:20:55
Mhmm.
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If you I know a girl, she’s 28 years old and she came over here when she was a baby and she’s not an American citizen Yeah. Because her family’s from Mexico. Yeah. That’s crazy. To me, that’s crazy. That doesn’t make any sense. She’s been here her whole life. She’s a goddamn American.
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Yeah.
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Like, let’s figure that out.
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02:21:10
I have look. Again, I have no dog in the race. I was literally just trying to get to some sort of, okay, let’s what are the facts? I didn’t. Like, that’s one thing. Like, we I I got I talked to everybody I could on both sides. And again again, it’s so confusing that even now, I’m like, after having Ai like, it’s it’s it’s
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02:21:30
It seems like a strategy.
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02:21:32
It could be look. It could be a strategy, and there’s a strategy on both sides for sure. And but you’re it’s just ai it’s it’s it’s so fucked up to try to find the facts on this stuff. Right. Everybody has facts. Don’t like, I’m gonna be inundated with everyone has fucking tons of facts.
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02:21:47
But But
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what are the fucking facts? Because real. Exactly.
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02:21:50
Right. Well, that’s with so many things. I mean, we had that with COVID. We have that with the Ukraine war. Like, who’s responsible? Is it NATO? Is it like, what did someone cross a red line? Would someone violate an agreement? What is happening in Israel? Right. Are they really hiding in tunnels?
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02:22:05
Like, what is Israel really shooting aid workers? What what is going on? What are what are the real facts?
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02:22:10
What are the facts? And and and that’s what I sana do on the on the podcast. And sometimes you get there and sometimes you don’t. And immigration obviously being a very interesting one, and I’m gonna continue on it because I’m like, it’s not satisfactory. Although, maybe that’s just the answer.
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02:22:25
The answer is it’s such a fucking huge and confusing issue.
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02:22:27
Well, it is absolutely a huge and confusing issue. And also, if you’re a human being, you have empathy.
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02:22:33
You have compassion.
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02:22:33
If I lived in Ecuador or wherever these folks are from and I found out you could just cross America or you could get on your app and you can get into America, 100% I would do it. And you would too. And, yeah, we have the greatest country in the world and that’s why people wanna come here. And, yeah, you have this land of opportunity.
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02:22:49
It’s amazing. But what we really have to do is make sure we don’t let in murderers and fucking killers and rapists and thieves and gang meh, and and a lot of them are getting through. Mhmm. And that’s what we have to be careful about. It’s not just not letting people in. Sure.
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02:23:02
I mean, I bet we could sustain a lot more people in this country, and I bet a lot
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02:23:05
of those people that come over are hardworking
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02:23:07
Yeah. Very ambitious people that are excited to be here. They they would love to be a part of the American experience. Mhmm. They probably love to recognize as as Americans.
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02:23:18
Yes. Immigration as it’s being run right now is a fucking catastrophe. I think we can agree on that, and it has to be fixed.
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02:23:25
It has to be fixed, but the question is they they could have done that. But how do you fucking
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02:23:29
fix it if if nobody if it’s become so political and you can get into COVID on this exact same problem, it’s become so political that there’s no fucking root basis in truth. And people believe on one side this thing and believe on the other side this thing and fucking nobody’s gonna meet them tomorrow.
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02:23:44
And you’re ai, well, what
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02:23:46
the fuck?
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02:23:46
So then they need a show like yours to, like, lay it out. That’s what it is. You need something where someone is ai Well, at
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02:23:52
least try.
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And not come at it from a right wing perspective or a left wing perspective. Just come at it ram, like, this is what it is. Yeah. Ai think there’s more politically homeless people now than ever. I really do believe that. And they they’re gonna side with one side or the other based on their opinion, mostly about Donald Trump.
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02:24:07
But other than that, it’s like you’re trying to figure out, like, what team you belong on, and both teams are filled with scoundrels. You you go far enough to the left and far enough to the ai, you have the same kind of monster that’s adopted a different ideology. It’s all it is.
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02:24:22
And then Well, they’re politicians.
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And it’s not just politicians. It’s gang members. It’s it’s just the it’s the politicians, of course, that are like the leaders, but you’ve got these gang members because, basically, anybody can join. Anybody could join the left, and anybody can join the right. And there’s a lot of mentally ill people out there.
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02:24:38
And so they join this, and their whole identity revolves on crushing the right or crushing the left Yeah. And owning the libs or, you know, the the that’s that’s a giant percentage of social media. All these mentally ill people that are in a gang, and that’s all it is. That’s why they attack people, try to deplatform them, try to get them fired, letter campaigns. They’re gang members.
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Mhmm.
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It’s gang and that gives them purpose because they don’t have purpose in their life which is why they’re on Twitter 130 minutes a day. Right. Because they’re mentally ill and it’s exacerbated by social media.
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02:25:10
It is because it’s become so big. It is informing policy. I mean, on both sai. Because because if you look at what gets adopted as narrative, then the it’s the narrative is being written on social media. It’s not being written by traditional news. Right. And so fine. Like, that’s that’s why I’m like, hold on a second. I’m fascinated by this shit. You’re fascinated by I think pretty much everybody’s fascinated by this shit.
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02:25:36
It’s when it’s informing policy, but nobody’s actually reporting on it or digging in or getting in. Everybody’s still I fucked. I don’t give a shit about the mainstream media. I give a shit about this stuff.
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02:25:45
The only way you find the truth is social media. It’s just you have to do a lot of sifting.
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02:25:49
A lot of sifting.
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02:25:50
You gotta figure out who’s legit
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02:25:51
and who’s innocent.
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02:25:52
And that’s where community notes comes in very handy. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. And it it it clowns people on both sides.
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02:25:59
Yeah.
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And it’s good. It’s very important.
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02:26:01
Well, that’s so that’s what I said. I said, look, I’m just gonna go in and try to try to dig through some of the shit, which ai the way proved to be a lot harder.
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02:26:08
Ai, it’s fucking real journalism. Right? Like, if you wanna do that, I mean, you know better than anybody. It’s real journalism.
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02:26:14
Yeah. And it’s look, it’s fun because, there’s a lot of people sana talk. We got a lot of stuff.
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02:26:19
And especially the way you’re doing it now, we’re, you know, small.
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02:26:24
Just small, baby. Keep it tight. Small, baby.
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02:26:26
Tight chip.
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02:26:26
I learned from the best. It’s
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02:26:28
nobody wants to listen.
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02:26:29
I ai fuck ram the best.
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02:26:31
All these dudes, they get they get big and then they have staff and I go over their place. I’m ai, why are all these people here? Dude. There’s so many people here. This is a mess. You
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02:26:39
did it right.
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02:26:40
I I I’ll
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02:26:41
give it to you, man. You did it right. And and by the way, surprisingly, maybe not surprisingly, very ai, I’ve I’m I’m speaking I don’t know of which I speak. I didn’t fucking do it right. So I’m gonna have I’m saying you did. So
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02:26:53
Nobody came knocking with those dollars, you know. I didn’t have a thing that you could sell like that,
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02:26:58
you know.
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02:26:58
Because my thing only works if I’m at the microphone.
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02:27:00
You’re at it. Yeah.
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02:27:01
It’s a different thing. Yeah.
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02:27:02
Yeah.
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02:27:02
And it only works if I keep doing exactly the same way.
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02:27:05
Do it, baby. I love it. I’m proud of you.
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02:27:08
Thank you,
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02:27:08
my friend. You’re a beautiful baby boy. We’ve known each other a long ai.
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02:27:13
Long time, bro. It’s kinda crazy.
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02:27:15
Long time. Long time. But it was back in the fucking Tarzana or whatever it was. Just over Mhmm. What was that Tarzana? Woodland Hills. Woodland Hills.
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02:27:22
Yeah. The old old days. Old school. Yeah.
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02:27:24
You got me so fucked up on one of your fucking crazy weed fucking this is a fucking Purple Haze, fucking White Widow or
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02:27:32
whatever. Probably some Joey Diaz stuff.
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02:27:33
And I remember just ai, woah. Like, either there’s a microphone here or
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02:27:37
Yeah. That’s the problem. We used to get people way high before the shah, and then they would kinda close off. Ai good. Be paranoid. No. It’s terrible.
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02:27:44
Because Ai a couple of drinks maybe, but I can’t like, if when I’m stoned, I’m like, you know, I can’t talk.
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02:27:49
It’s a bad strategy.
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02:27:51
Yeah. Pretty funny, though.
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02:27:53
It was fun for me.
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02:27:53
Pretty funny.
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02:27:54
I used to love to get ai opening act super ai. Yeah. Just to watch them panic when they go out there. I’m like, don’t worry about it. Just go have fun. You gotta learn how to be yourself in that fog and maybe you can find something different when you’re out there.
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02:28:06
Yeah. If you if you if you’re, like, smoking it all the ai, whatever, you can get through it. But if you’re just coming in going, oh, I’m gonna sit down with the fucking number one podcaster rule and get as stoned as I’ve ever been and fucking try fucking
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02:28:20
The word the scariest thing is when you’re talking and you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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02:28:23
Oh, yeah. You lose train and you’re ai, I have no idea what I’m talking about and I don’t know what to come back to.
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02:28:29
But all you need is footnotes. Someone goes, trains. Yes.
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02:28:32
Yes. Yes. The train. I have
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02:28:33
a check on trains. That door opens up in your brain and you have access to all the information again. It’s weird how it sort of compartmentalizes memory like that.
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02:28:41
Those were I gotta say though, those were fucking fun and good days and, and and you fucking blew up like an atom bomb, dude.
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02:28:48
It’s weird. But it it would they were fun days because we were doing it for the right reasons. It was just for fun. It was just to do it because, like, in the it didn’t make any money for so long. It was just for
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02:28:58
how Like how long? Years. Ai, 5 years?
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02:29:01
Yeah. Something like that.
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02:29:02
And, like, who was, like, it was, like, on it and sponsors?
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02:29:06
It basically paid to keep the lights on and
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02:29:08
paid for meh hosts and all the, you know, the the Like how much did it cost back then to put it up?
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02:29:14
I don’t remember. It was pretty cheap. In the beginning, it was super cheap because it was just a laptop and a microphone. Yeah. That was super cheap And then we started expanding and then once I got a a the first studio, I’m like, well, I really need a bigger one. Then I got a warehouse and then then I started getting weird.
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02:29:30
What was the one in Woodland Hills? That was ai the first iteration or second or I had
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02:29:34
2 in Woodland Hills.
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02:29:35
Did you
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02:29:36
go to the warehouse 1?
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02:29:37
I went to the tiny one.
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02:29:38
Yeah. So there’s a tiny one, and then we had the big ass warehouse. We had a a gym in there and all kinds of stuff. Yeah. It just it’s like everything things scale up, but Yeah. The the most important thing is, like the reason why podcasts work, I think, is because people are listening and they know it’s just a conversation sai it it works in your ai, it resonates in your mind.
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02:29:59
Right. You know, there’s this is not ai some heavily produced produced thing
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02:30:03
where
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02:30:04
there’s an agenda and there’s a script and a teleprompter and you’re trying to pretend that you’re being real but you’re not being real. Sai it doesn’t feel right to people. Right.
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02:30:12
It doesn’t resonate.
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02:30:13
Right. And so the more people you have involved in it, the more it’s not gonna feel ai, you know. Like ai friend had a studio and he has a glass wall and the the production staff is all working and walking around in this this ai this glass wall and he sees them and I go, that’s a distraction.
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02:30:31
Yeah. Ai, why do you have that? This is bad for the conversation. Yeah. You’ve missed the point.
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02:30:36
The point what what the reason why it works is because the people at home, the people that are in there the the EarPods on right now going on a jog, they’re just as much in this room as you and I are because there’s no filters. It’s just us.
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02:30:49
I’m taking mental notes right now because we fucked up a few of those things but you’re exactly right.
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02:30:54
Everybody thinks that they sana be a television show. Yeah. And if you look at a television show that’s professional professional. I don’t think professional is good.
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02:31:02
Yeah. I
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02:31:03
don’t think it’s good.
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02:31:03
I don’t think it’s that’s why, ai, the
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02:31:05
best comedy shows are live comedy shows. You wanna see comedy, watching on Netflix is awesome. Yeah. Watching ai is 70% better. Yeah. Because you’re there. It’s a real experience.
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02:31:14
Collective collective experience. Yeah. Go back to your we’re all
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02:31:17
Yeah. Together.
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02:31:18
Yeah. Movie theaters. Yep. Rocks rock concerts. Mhmm. Comedy shows.
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02:31:23
Yeah. And I think once AI comes around, live performance is gonna be one of the few ways that we’re gonna be able to connect with each other.
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02:31:30
Yeah. Life human feels like they can’t do.
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02:31:32
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a real way. Mhmm. And that’s, it’s a scary a scary proposition because we really don’t know, like, maybe for the first time ever. If you lived in 1970, you’re pretty sure what 1980 was gonna be like. Maybe you’re wrong a little bit, but it was you’re probably pretty accurate. You could extrapolate.
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02:31:52
You could look at it and go ai where this is going. Today, we have zero idea what 2034 looks like. We are just guessing.
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02:31:59
I’ll go further than that. I was driving around our studios in Van Ai, and, I was driving from Malibu to Van Nuys. And I’m ai, if you drive through, like I don’t know what that that’s why I said Tarzana. It’s probably Tarzana. It literally hasn’t changed a lot since 1924. Right.
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02:32:15
Like, it’s like the same houses, same fucking like, ai. The cars are different, but there’s arya. And there’s phones, but, like, okay. There’s a bit of technology, but, like, it kinda is the same street.
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02:32:24
Looks the same.
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02:32:25
Looks the same. There’s not a lot really. And you’re like, okay. A 100 years from now, this fucking looks nothing. Yeah. Nothing ai like it does today. Yeah. That’s scary.
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It is scary. It’s weird. But But we will will remain.
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Yeah. We both said, like, look. You can either be positivist about it and say, look. Let’s mold it to be, like, great. I can fucking do something I love rather than work in a fucking factory, fucking punching out, you know, tool and ai fucking pieces. I can, you know, go do what my first love was or something that I makes me feel filled with joy.
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Or we can become fucking Autobots who arya crying because of fucking online Yeah. AI driven girlfriend dumped me.
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Well, the thing is also today, there’s these kind of conversations that are out there that put these thoughts into people’s minds and inspire them to do something that didn’t exist when we were young. Yeah. There wasn’t these kind of conversations that could really light up the fires of your creativity
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True.
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And your ambition and you decided to go.
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The opposite.
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Yeah. I was the opposite.
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It was no. Yeah. Meh. Shut up.
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You shah to be a real rebel. Yeah. You had to be a kind of a crazy person
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That’s right.
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Ai you take that path.
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You had to be punk. You had to be fucking an outsider. Yeah. Otherwise, people were, like, conform. Just fucking do what everybody else is doing, be an accountant.
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Yeah. And as you were struggling, if you got outside the lines and you were taking a chance, as you’re struggling, people were praying for you to fall.
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Yeah.
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All of them praying that it
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Yeah.
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Didn’t work out.
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Because it shows them up. Yeah. They’ve made the wrong choice.
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Yeah. They don’t like it.
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But that’s true. That is true. People want you to fail.
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They do.
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Until you succeed and then they’re ai, I was always in your corner.
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The the the thing is some people don’t though. Some people actually want you to succeed and they want they succeed themselves. They want you you to succeed, like, can you realize, like, that’s a better way to live.
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Yeah. I
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actually I I am too. Yeah. Adopt that. You can adopt that even if it doesn’t feel right because you’re like grinding, you’re trying to make it out. I’m telling you, the hoping other people fail is the biggest waste of energy. Even your enemies, let them fucking just live in their own life.
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Don’t don’t hope they fail. Don’t don’t put any energy towards it.
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Everyone’s just trying to get through the day. I I ai I’m a cheerleader. And, again, when when when people I know or when my friends do well, I’m like, there’s nobody happier than me. Like, that’s fucking awesome. Yeah. That’s just awesome. And also and when people, you know, fail or have a hard time, we’re like, okay, bro. Let’s what can we do? Let’s fucking do it again.
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Let’s fucking get get get get back on the horse. Let’s figure it out. And yeah. Because ai, it’s just a fucking bummer. You’re right.
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Yeah. Yeah. Ain’t no fun that the homies can’t have none. Remember that song? Yeah. Alright, brother. Tell everybody what I know is. Where where how can they find it?
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Where do
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they go? That’s good.
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Which we just started, but it’s I think on YouTube, it’s Shane Smith has questions and wherever you can listen to podcasts, I guess. Alright. But I appreciate the the plug. You gotta come on some Oh, ai good seeing you, man. You gotta come out.
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I love you, man. I love you too. Bye, buddy ai.
