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Podcast Episode Summary: Tony Robbins on Growth, Happiness, and Impact
Key Points & Major Topics:
Tony Robbins’ Background & Motivation:** Tony shares his challenging upbringing, including poverty and family instability, which inspired his lifelong commitment to personal development and helping others. A pivotal moment was receiving a Thanksgiving meal from a stranger, shaping his belief in giving back.
Self-Help Journey:** Robbins discusses his early influences, notably Jim Rohn, and how he evolved from infomercials to becoming a global coach and entrepreneur. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing and changing personal patterns rather than trying to change oneself.
Patterns, Growth, and Happiness:** Robbins asserts that progress, not achievement, is the key to happiness. He explains that people often feel unfulfilled after reaching goals because humans are wired for continual growth and contribution.
Mental Health & Social Media:** The conversation covers the negative impact of social media on expectations and mental health, especially among youth. Robbins advocates trading expectations for appreciation and focusing on personal progress.
Therapeutic Approaches:** Robbins highlights the effectiveness of combining cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) with physical engagement and energy, citing studies showing significant improvements in depression and workplace engagement through his programs.
Philanthropy & Moonshots:** Robbins details his philanthropic efforts, including feeding millions and combating child trafficking. He encourages setting ambitious, purpose-driven goals (“moonshots”) for lasting fulfillment.
Health, Longevity, and Biohacking:** Robbins shares personal health challenges and his interest in cutting-edge longevity science, such as stem cell therapy and immune system rejuvenation, urging listeners to proactively manage their health.
Important Guests/Speakers:
Tony Robbins:** Main guest, renowned life coach, author, and entrepreneur.
Hosts:** The All-In Podcast team, including Jason Calacanis and others, who engage Robbins in wide-ranging questions.
Actionable Insights & Tips:
– Focus on changing patterns, not your identity.
– Trade expectations for appreciation to boost happiness.
– Set goals that involve growth and contribution beyond yourself.
– Combine mental strategies (like CBT) with physical activity for lasting change.
– Regularly assess and manage your health, including testing for heavy metals.
– Start giving back at any level—philanthropy is scalable and deeply rewarding.
Recurring Themes & Overall Message:
– Growth, contribution, and continual learning are essential for fulfillment.
– True happiness comes from progress and giving, not just achievement.
– Personal and societal well-being require both mindset shifts and actionable strategies.
This episode offers a blend of personal stories, practical advice, and inspiration for anyone seeking growth, resilience, and a greater impact.
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Our next guest needs no introduction, Tony Robbins.
You have to figure that. So Ai always sai, if you sana take the island to burn the boats, I got a chance to work with the president of The United States, Clinton, and he calls me one one day, true story, and says, Tony, they’re gonna impeach me in the morning. How many of you ever achieved a goal you worked your guts out for and then achieved it and went, is this all there is?
You’re bigger in person. You’re a big man.
Ai a normal human. Okay. You’re large.
You’re like two feet. Your hands.
There you go. It’s ai, you’re a big guy.
You’re glad he just sai his hand.
Yeah. It could’ve got really interesting. It’s true. True. I mean, maybe not if he was in the cold plunge. You never know. Okay. Enough. When I told people you were coming
I got like a range of responses. And your poor assistant chief of staff is in a total panic about all the questions I’m sana ask you.
Yes. I know you don’t care. But I got the range of the infomercial guy. He has had a profound impact on my life from very significant friends of ai, who we know in common, who have been to your seminars, to he’s kind of a guru self help. It’s all ai of like snake oil. I sana know where this all started because my perception of you was the late ai, when I was growing up in the eighties, the infomercials.
And then I looked into it, and I started looking into the self help space. You actually were inspired by a self help girl who you went to work for in the, I think, the late seventies.
Yeah. Jim Rohn. And, you have been on this for a while, and a lot of the techniques that you studied are very real. There these are real techniques
In psychology. And when I looked at them and I was looking at the history of it, you know, you look at Ralph Waldo, Emerson, self reliance, Freud, Young, NLP, vatsal, neuro linguistic programming, and even L. Ron Hubbard, who took it in a different direction, a lot of these self help things.
Are you getting to a question?
I am. I am. He wants to show you
on Wikipedia until we started. I went down the rabbit hole.
Right. The Wikipedia hole.
Who is Tony Robbins, and why did you get addicted to all this self help stuff? And then it’s kind of been packaged in a couple of different ways in your life. So I’m curious this sort of arc of how you got into this and then what you do for people now. Because my friend Mark Pincus, and then, we have Benioff, a friend of the show, my friend Kevin Rose, these guys and then civilians.
Ai one of my wife’s friends goes and runs over coals with you in Ai, and she she’s a makeup arya, and she loves it, and she can’t shut up about it. So tell me how you got into self help, how you package it, and why you decided to be a coach and do these seminars instead of starting a a cult or religion.
Well, people know me at different stages. I was on television every thirty minutes, twenty four hours a day for about twelve years during the infomercial days, and I hated infomercials, but there was no real vehicle, ai, you could get out to mass number of people other than writing a book, and most people don’t read.
Sai but it’s hard for me. I grew up in a pretty tough environment. I was born in Downtown LA. I had four different fathers. I had a very powerful mom who I love dearly, has since passed. Beautiful soul. Ai created a lot of my success to her.
But also when she drank alcohol and took prescription drugs, she was a different person, very violent. I have a younger brother, younger sister. So I really became a practical psychologist in my youth, learning how to manage her emotions in her states and how to really get things done.
And, Ai think probably the thing that changed my life the most though was when I was 11 years old, ai fourth father, and he got fired from his job. And it was Thanksgiving. We had no money and no food. When I say no food, we had crackers and peanut butter, but, you know, not a Thanksgiving dinner, which is kinda depressing.
And my parents were fighting and, you know, saying things you can never take back. And I was trying to make my brother and sister not hear it. And my life was changed because someone came to the door. I opened a big guy, two bags of groceries in his hand, and an unfrozen turkey uncooked in a pan on the ground. He’d obviously carried in and sat down.
He said, is your father here? And I was like, just one moment. Yeah. And I thought it was sana be the most joyous moment, but my father was angry because he felt humiliated. He looked at it as charity and said, we don’t accept that. Long story short, the man said, I’m the delivery guy and my dad had to take the food.
And that day changed my life because my father left shortly thereafter and I really loved him. He’s the one who adopted me and, I carry his name. But it also ai life is determined, I think, by the meanings we give to things. You know, is this the end or the beginning? Is this person dissing me?
Are they coaching me? Are they rubbing on me? Whatever you decide controls your life. And I was fortunate enough at that point that I came up with a different meaning. We grew up in an environment Sai thought was a wealthy community.
It was very low middle class, to say least, and we were on the other side of the railroad tracks, and it looked like nobody cared, and nobody ai father kept saying no one cares about anybody else. But this was new evidence for me. It was ai, if a stranger doesn’t even want credit, is delivering my family Thanksgiving dinner, then strangers do care ai I need to care about strangers.
And so I promised myself that at 11 years old vatsal someday Ai do this back and feed at least two families. And then, you know, I grew up and I started studying patterns. I started seeing that everything is a pattern. You know, all of you know, if you’re an investor, if you’re a great CEO, if you’re a great dancer or musician, it’s really because you recognize patterns.
Things are no longer chaos for you. You see what’s going on, so you have the power of anticipation. And then the second ai, I think, I try to teach this to my kids and grandkids. I have five kids and five grandkids. I have a 50 year old daughter and thanks to COVID, a four year old daughter. And, and I’m saying, what do I need them to know?
The world is changing so fast. They have to be able to recognize ai. Step two, utilize them, that’s where the power is. And if you do it long enough, you play someone else’s music long enough, you know, some of you starts to come through and start to be a creator of patterns.
That’s when you become masterful. Those are the people we know in investing, you know all their names or in business or anything else. And so once I learned that, I realized there’s nothing wrong with people. We just get caught up in patterns and we do them so long we think they’re us.
And it’s hard to change you. Easy to change a pattern. And I got really good at it. And so I changed my body, I changed my finances, people started coming to meh. And then gradually, it became my full time focus.
And I began to have people calling me as I arya producing results and I’d get these athletes that would call like Serena Williams and and she’s melting down and she can’t meh on the court because her sister just ai. And she’s lost recently and she’s, you know, she’s got she’s gun shy and I gotta right now turn her around and there’s no net.
So fortunately, I’ve been able to do that over and over again and it built my career and brought me to a lot of sports teams and I own some of those sports teams, pieces of them. And, and but then I also started looking, okay, I start working with people that are depressed and suicidal and knock on wood, I don’t know.
Do any of you see Tony Robbins I’m not your guru on Netflix, anybody here? So if you haven’t seen it, you can see thank you. You see the work when we follow-up meh years later, you see the people are still in great shape Cause we’re rewiring the way the brain works, it’s not a bunch of pump up.
I do use energy, because of that energy nothing changes. But you can’t just have energy, you need strategy. And so as I did that, you know, Ai give you a perfect example, I’m 31 years old and career starting to soar and Ai I got a chance to work with the president of The United States, Clinton, and he calls me one day, true story, and says, Tony, they’re sana to impeach me in the morning.
What should I do? Ai I’m 31 years old, the president asked me, so I said, could you call me sooner? You know, this is like tomorrow morning, but because there’s no net, my brain figured it out. You have to figure it out. So Sai always say, if you want to take the island, you burn the boats.
But ai, Tony. What what did you tell him?
That’s a that’s a private thing I’ll tell if you wanna know. I don’t share unless somebody shares. But what I will tell you is Ai got good then at studying businesses and became an entrepreneur. And so now I have 114 companies and massively different industries, but we do about $9,000,000,000, a little bit more in revenue. And I love the diversity.
So I get to work with athletes. I meh, the team you were formally had ownership in, I have a little piece of. Peter Goober is one of my dearest friends, as you probably know. And so I’ve gotten to work with, you know, some of the greatest athletes in the world, some of the greatest musicians, some of the greatest entertainers, some of the greatest entrepreneurs.
And I don’t go there just to to teach somebody. I go to learn.
Can I ask you a societal question for
Okay. So you’ve been, in some ways, diagnosing what ails people for, let’s say, forty years now?
Every society has its own pothole. And maybe, you know, teenagers and young people today suffer from a very different thing that maybe Jason, myself, and Freeburg did at our ages. Can you diagnose the level of happiness and sadness and satisfaction, dissatisfaction that this current young generation has relative to other younger generations and where it’s different and where it’s the same?
I don’t think I’m the only one who can see it. I think expectations you know, I always tell people, expectations are what make you really unhappy. And we can’t not have any, obviously. But trade your expectations for appreciation, your life changes. But our expectations now are controlled more by social media, especially that generation. Right?
So they’re seeing people that are incredibly wealthy and thinking that’s who I should be and feeling like they don’t have anything. I mean, what turned people in the Soviet Union against Soviet Union when they got access to seeing how the Westerners lived? Then things changed.
When they didn’t see it, it was okay. So today, we compare ourselves to others in ways that are not real because, like, young girls that go on social media, you’ve seen all the studies I’m sure, they get depressed because they’re comparing images that aren’t even real.
Expectations minus reality equals happiness.
And what I really say is progress equals happiness. Ai, if you are growing, if you are going at some even if you’re not there yet and you are gonna lose 50 pounds and you lose the first five or 10, or you’re in a relationship and you finally face what has to be dealt with, or you face your finances, There’s a momentum that happens and aliveness.
I meh, ask all of you here and those of you in the ram, how many have ever achieved a goal you worked your guts out for and then achieved it and went, is this all there is? Who’s had this experience? I’m curious, right? That’s a horrific moment,
It’s worse than failure because most of us simply fail. We get back up and figure it out. Right?
But try this on for size. How many of you achieved a goal that you worked your guts out for and you’re really proud of it and you’re euphoric? Who’s had one of those? Well, by shah of handsome noise out there if you give it to meh. Right. Sai the question is how long did that good feeling last? Did it last six years?
Six minutes. Ten minutes.
Six weeks? Yeah. Six minutes? Yeah. For most people, it’s been six minutes in about six weeks, FM. Yeah. And so ai is that?
Because we’re meant to grow. In life, you grow or you die. The whole universe, you know, my ai, you grow or you die. And when you grow, you have something to give. And unless you’re giving something beyond yourself, if it’s always a trade, you don’t have any speak for yourself.
You don’t have any inner pride. But when you have something to give, that’s when life feels more meaningful.
Yeah. Jonathan Ai, book from years ago, The Happiness Hypothesis Yes.
a great study in there on economic progress being the best predictor of happiness. It wasn’t the absolute dollars you were earning each year that flatlined after a certain baseline standard of living. Beyond that standard of living, once you’re able to get food and housing and all the things you need to survive and thrive, what predicted happiness was how much things changed from year to year.
That is absolutely right ai other studies, but there are new studies that add another dynamic. It’s also affected by who is in your environment. And today who’s in your environment because of social media is is not real. And so now we’re in a place where people evaluate not by their circle of friends they hang out with, vatsal certainly plays a role.
But even more so, and I’ve always tell people, if you want to grow, get on the field of people tenfold of where you are. And where you if you sana to play tennis, and you’re good at tennis, and you’re fortunate enough to get sai down with somebody who’s world class ai sai Serena Williams, a friend of mine, if you go out and do that, you you know, you’re terrible.
But just to get on the court with her, you got to get great. If you play against somebody you’re better than, it’s only a matter of time before your skills go down as well. So I think our sai, people have an expectation today. Also, my original teacher, Jim Rohn, a personal development speaker, more of a business philosopher, he I went to him one time when Ai was really young, just beginning with him, and I said, all my fathers are good humans, why were we always broke?
And I said, and I look at this, you know, billionaire hedge fund person, you know, and he made a billion dollars last year and this school teacher only made, in those days ai, $40,000. And he said, Tony, that’s fair ai here’s what I can suggest to you, we’re all equal as souls, but we’re not equal in the marketplace.
And he said, if you go to McDonald’s and you get a you don’t get a living wage, you’re not supposed to, it’s a first job. Anyone can do that job and learn it in an hour. But he said, if you find a way to add more value to people, cause he said to me, can someone make twice as much money in the same time?
I said, yeah, five times, 10, a 100 times? I said, yeah. He said, the guy that made a billion dollars produced a 42% return, did you know that? Those arya people’s futures, that was people’s college educations, that was their ai. He is worth it. You must become assessed on doing more for others than anybody else does.
And so that’s been my moniker for all my companies, and it’s been the core. And I think that’s what’s missing to answer your question.
It’s it’s like, what do you what is ai gonna give me versus the Kennedy days of don’t ask what you’re gonna
do for you. How do you how do ai help a larger swath of society then unwind the addiction to SSRIs, the kind of doom loop, doom ai, like, just the general malaise Yes. That then manifests in all these weird ways, the inability to talk to each other, the, you know, cut people off because they voted one way versus another.
All this stuff just seems so
because all of the social media, the mobile, the social, everything’s not going away. It’s here. It’s permeated, and it’s not just sana disappear overnight.
But if you study, like, the the youngest generation now as they’ve come forward, they’re getting off of even they’ve obviously got a Facebook a long time ago. Their parents do that stuff. Right? But they’re not even on Instagram now. They’re going to these individual places that are more intimate.
They’re wanting not everybody to know what they’re doing. They’re the pendulum froze itself so extreme and then we correct it. It’s what we just experienced politically. It’s the same thing. So it’s it’s easy to rationalize that.
But I’ll tell you, you know, Stanford came here during the the COVID ai, the period, and they came to me because two of their professors had gone through my date with Destiny Center. It’s a five day total immersion where you rewire yourself, decide what you want. I don’t tell you what your values are, how you’re gonna live your life.
And both of them had been on meh. Both were clinically depressed, and they came back and he said they have no symptoms, they’re off all their meh, how does this happen? So we have this long conversation. He said, well, do you have some data? Ai said, well, I have millions of graduates, you know, on stories. He goes, no, no, like scientific data.
I sai, no, but I’d be open to doing a study. So during COVID
A lot to longitudinally follow the people that have ai.
Yes. And so he took but they put people in, they did their own study. Because I sai, if we’re going to do this, tell me what the standards, what are the meta studies show? Ai, how many people get well through traditional approaches of drugs and therapy? Know, I don’t know if you’re aware, but it’s crazy.
Sixty percent of the people who use drugs or therapy to try and get out of depression make zero improvement. Sixty percent. Forty percent improve he shared with me, but the average improvement is fifty percent. Most are on drugs the rest of their life. And he goes, I sai, you should be able to do that with a placebo. And he laughed ai, pardon me?
And he said, yeah, sort of. And I said, well, I know it sounds like hubris or or arrogance, but it’s not. It’s just done this so long. I said, we will destroy that. I said, what’s the best study you’ve ever done? They said it was John Hopkins, now it’s been about eight years ago, and they gave people psilocybin, magic mushrooms, and and cognitive therapy for a month.
I said, well something had to change to that kind of biochemical shift, right? And it was the greatest up until that point, the greatest result they’d ever seen in ai. At the end of six weeks, fifty three percent of the people had no symptoms whatsoever, depression, nothing like it in history.
So I sai, that’s my target to beat and I sai, again, it’s not on the arrogant but I sai, enough experience, I’d only bet we’d do it, you set up a study with all the comparison groups and he did, and they ran the study. And I’m proud to tell you that at the end of six weeks, ninety seven percent of people had no symptoms whatsoever.
Seven percent had symptoms but they had lessened massively, but seventeen percent had suicidal ideation coming in and coming out none did. They followed up a year later, seventy two percent reduction in negative emotions a year after I’ve not seen them, fifty one percent increase in positive emotions.
So now we’re doing it on business. They did a one year study with 1,500 people, they just finished it. And you know in business, you know, EBITDA is engagement, right? The most engaged employees and companies are there and we’ve all seen that drop. If you’re not familiar with it, we usually go three levels. You measure engagement, disengagement, which would be, now we call it quiet quitting, and then active disengagement.
That’s hard quitting where they’re in the company but trying to harm it. The largest drop in history since COVID has happened on engagement and the largest increase in active disengagement. They took the group in, 750 of each group, test group versus normal group. In four excuse meh.
In five days, they found a month later the engagement levels returned far above what they were pre COVID. But more importantly, without any more interaction with me because they changed their wiring over the next year and they followed them for the full year, They they ai to increase their engagement.
Of what you’re doing is and has its roots in what we call today CBT, cognitive behavioral therapy. Attribution theory, how you interpret what people are
saying to you. That’s part
pause when you do have, a reaction coming to you and just pausing for a second and then making sure you understand and checking the reality of that. These are techniques that you actually have in your programs.
Yes. They do. But you if you also don’t change the physiology of the person, you have limited range. I’ll give you an example. They sent a group and followed me for think, three
Maybe explaining the attribution there would be really good for the audience and why that’s so powerful.
Well, I think, if I may, just so it’s limited ai. I think it’s more important to understand physical change.
Because your biochemical changes that would last. If I ai you all where you were on nine eleven, no matter what country you’re in, if you’re not America, everyone knows where they were, they what they saw, who was there. Right? There’s a biochemical change. If I asked you where on 08:11, you don’t have a clue.
So what they do is they followed me and they saw what happened on my body on stage twelve hours a day, four days in a row. They had me wear this huge device and they took my blood and they took my saliva from hormones every hour on the hour. And they’d also done this with Tom Bryden. The group has also done this with, the Tampa Bay, Ai who won multiple times.
And what they found is what they call championship biochemistry. When Tom Brady’s down by, you know, 10 points since the fourth quarter and he comes back to win, how does that happen? His biochemistry has an explosion of testosterone, which makes you remember everything, that’s why it retained, and it puts you in a place of total focus.
But with testosterone, usually also have the stress hormone of cortisol. In Tom’s body, when he goes there, the cortisol drops off the cliff. It’s unheard of. They call it championship, and sai thing happens to Ram. Same thing happens every time I get on stage. Not sitting like ai, but doing what we do.
What’s more important is they didn’t decide to measure my audience, and they did it first before COVID, and then I started doing seminars digitally all around the world. Like, we have 1,300,000 people for a four day seminar. Ai usually did fifteen, twenty thousand person stadiums for four days, and now that’s the size we’re able to go to in scale, and we figure out how to make it work.
But when they meh them in 15 different countries, it looks like it looks like music. They come in and we suddenly start to go up together and they get the same response, same ai focus, and the same cortisol drop. And that’s why they believe it’s lost. Same thing happens with engagement. Right? It’s a biochemical.
So I do believe in all the elements of cognitive therapy, the linguistic ram, there’s so many. But without the unique thing that I saw Ai did and I tried to explain how it lasted is the biochemical shift.
So pairing CBT with this physical activity, this intensity
Yes. That is the secret. Yes.
That is. That makes total sense. Otherwise, it won’t last. Right.
You know, you can make it last by repetition. Right? Ai, you know, affirming something.
This is why when we go on a retreat and they organize these corny corporate retreats, it’s not corny that they want to do a thrilling experience and go white water rafting to help people bond Yes. Because people’s lives are so sedentary, they don’t experience this. And that’s why
all you lunatics are jumping in ice cold vatsal every day.
Yes. That’s why you feel alive. A 100%. You must have a very high, like, excitement level. Like, you gotta be in a
helicopter and you gotta jump into cold water to be
this point. I’ve been doing it eighteen years. In the last ten or twelve years, everybody does it now. But yes. No. But it’s also I’m a biohacker. I have to be able to get up and do imagine, I I burn, 11,500 calories on it, 11,300 calories on average in a day. I jump a thousand times.
I’m in a stadium. I’m not just standing there. If you’re standing there, you’d be bored out of your mind. I engage or I’m running up the ai. I’m there with everybody. I could strike at any moment. That’s what keeps people fully alive. But when you do that, I’m jumping a thousand times.
I weigh two hundred ninety pounds. Every time you come down, they explain it’s four times your body weight. So it’s a million pounds, you know, of of pressure. And I’m doing that I’ve been doing that since I was now basically 19 years old. This is my forty eighth year doing it.
If you had been, diagnosed by, like, the industrial ai psychiatry complex these days, would they just have said you were, like, a kid with ADHD or something? What do you think?
I don’t know what they’d come up with. I’m a freak as far as they’re concerned.
know, what’s nice now is they have virtually every psychological leader out of maybe a dozen of them have endorsed what we do. In fact, now therapists in various states in The United States can actually study my work, see the results, because there’s very few places you can see an intervention and then follow-up and see what the result was a year later, and they get credits for that.
If you circle back to when Tom Cruise said, hey, listen, you know, exercise, diet, meditation, and he and he kinda laid out there’s other ways to deal with depression, and everybody would ai, what does he know? These doctors know better. Yep. And now the doctors have all come back to his position Yes. Which is let’s focus on your ai. Let’s focus on your exercise.
Let’s focus on your speak.
And let’s focus on your meditation. Those four things
Will do more to you than any pill. Correct?
Yet we have sixty percent of people in the country on a pill. And some of these
And most of them have more than one. Anytime you combine three pills, you cannot predict the outcome in your ai.
And what about, Tony, then the move away from SSRIs now to psychedelics and ai? Like, there’s all of these it’s all these cure alls.
Yes. Well, I’m sure you saw the cover of Newsweek a couple years ago. It talked about it was in the cover and it said SSRIs don’t work. They don’t. They’ve been proven not to work by the meh studies, but we’re still giving meh millions of people. And the side effects are depression, sometimes sai. It’s insane.
So looking for something else to rewire your brain is why people are starting to either mildly dose or heavily dose or go on these pieces. But the problem there, there’s nothing wrong with anybody who wants to do whatever they ai do. I’m not a prude about how to do it, but I like the idea of being able to take charge and make conscious decisions. But I’ve had that experience.
I went and investigated that myself directly. I went down, you know, into South America and had experience. It ai quite profound. But it’s like, what are you gonna do with it? Some people just becomes another way to party, you know, and that then you’re not gonna get any results that really matter.
If you’re doing it with a therapist, with intentionality, with a guide Like,
I was complete I was completely against it. And I met Tony Boss’s, from, was it Columbia or Meh York University? And I said, you know, I’m just not into drugs. You know, I’m not a freak, but people around me overuse them and abuse them, so I I’ve always just not done that. And he said, Tony, it’s not a drug because a drug you take at one you know, you sana take it every day. He said this, I’ll show you.
And he showed me videos. He said these are people that he was working with people that have been diagnosed with cancer, terminal cancer. Right? And he said, watch this. He ai, I’m gonna show you in advance. This woman is an atheist. She’s not like a California atheist, like there might be some God in the trees or something.
She’s a New York atheist. There is no God.
he shows me the video, you know, they they do two different sessions. They don’t know which one’s going to be it. And she comes out at the end of the session where she had the experience and she said, I experienced God. And and about 96% of the people say it’s one of the three most profound experiences in life. It was for meh.
And I used to I can handle anything, but the one thing I was weak at, I’ll be honest with you, was like somebody dying because I ai to handle that with it myself. And, so that’s why I went to do it. And I I don’t have a fear of dying. I don’t wanna I don’t wanna die, but I don’t have the fear of it
And if you went through deep trauma in your childhood, psychedelics can, I’m told, take you right to that place. Absolutely. Will have to confront it. And that’s why doing it in a safe environment, especially if you’re a child of trauma with an alcoholic father, which I had as well, very challenging,
ai. Meh going to just a guru or somebody, like, when I went down in South America only because there are a lot of people that take advantage of women down there. Yes. Because once you’re in that state, it’s, you know, you’re really you don’t know what’s you’re in a world in a different world.
So I really say you sana there are people now. There’s a big push at UCLA. They’re they’re they’re they’re
they’re they’re they’re they’re they’re they’re they’re
they’re all studying it now. And I think using it in that area make a difference. But my point is you get the same results without it, and I’m not suggesting people have to do it one way.
Yeah. Tony, can I build on Freeberg’s question, which is happiness is sort of a rate of change problem? Yes. You’re incredibly successful. You’re incredibly famous. You have a great family. You’re really fabulously wealthy. There’s all this stuff. How do you frame your mind in terms of this rate of change sai you’re seeing progress?
Like, do you do that for yourself? Like
Yes. Of course. I think I think men and women, it’s a generalization, but I think they evaluate life differently. I think most men have grown up in a hierarchical world, when some women do as well, and they have an idea of where they think they should be at a certain time. And most people are not there at times where if you’re fortunate enough, you’re ahead of the game.
I got to the point probably ten years ago where I’d done all these things. I didn’t have any less enthusiasm, but I didn’t have anything that, like, what am I gonna do now? And and I’ve done philanthropy my whole life because, you know, I got fed, so I started feeding people. I did it at 17.
I fed two families, and then four, and I got hooked on it. And then I got my little company involved, and then we got to 2,000,000 people, and then 2,000,000 from me and 2,000,000 from, you know, the general public. And then when I was writing Money Master the Game, I wrote interviewed Ray Dalio, Carl Icahn, Warren Buffett, all the best in the business.
And I I saw at the same time, I’m hearing these billionaires, that the government cut food stamps, now it’s called the SNAP program Yeah. By ‘6, I think it was $6,000,000,000. It means every family that needs food would have to go out with one week of food unless people like us step up.
So I called my foundation, I said how many people have I fed in my lifetime? Ai I didn’t know the number. They said 42,000,000. I was like really gratified by that, but I also was saying ai what if I did what I did in a whole lifetime in a year? What if I fit 50,000,000 people in a year? And I was like, what if I fit a 100,000,000?
What if I fit a 100,000,000 for ten straight years and fed a billion people in The United States? Richest country in the world. We have about 20,000,000 people that don’t know where the next meal is sana come from. And I hooked up with Feeding America to deliver the food, and I’m proud to say we did it in eight years, but the problem hasn’t gone away.
And so now Ai hooked up with, governor Beasley when I was in The UAE. He introduced me to governor Beasley, Meh did. And he explained to me that
You ran the world food program.
Yes. Yeah. He won the Nobel ai for that. Yeah. And MBZ ai, I want you to meet the only guy I know that’s stealing more people than you. I said, he’s being a lot more than I am at the UN. But we sat down and we became friends, and now Ai said to him, he normally eighty million people a year are at risk of dying.
This year it’s three hundred and eighty five million because of the war in Ukraine. It is the bread basket for most of Africa and there are 11 countries near famine right now. And you don’t read about it in the news because you’re reading about something on somebody’s knuckles, right?
And, and I said to him, well and then there’s not enough fertilizer because Russia’s been cut off and have made the price triple and farmers can’t afford it. So I said, we need a period of time to get sustainability, ten years let’s say. How many meals would we need in the meantime just to close the gap?
He said, Tony, fifty, sixty, maybe 70,000,000,000 meals. So I said, why don’t we do a 100,000,000,000 meals challenge? I said, I did a billion meals. I did it supposed to be in ten years, a hundred million years, a 100,000,000 meals a year. I wasn’t a billionaire when I ai.
I’ve been blessed obviously, But there’s sana be 99 other people like me who care or businesses or countries. And so we began that process two and a half years ago. In the beginning, it did not go well, but I’m proud to tell you in the first year and a half, we got 30,000,000,000 meals.
I’ll be announcing at the UN coming up this fall. I can’t tell you the number is supposed to wait till tyler, but more than double that. So we’re well beyond that. But right now in Dafur Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate your That’s a lot of fun.
I appreciate your applause, but I think also we want sustainability in any of you that sana to donate. I’ll match. I do it at Feeding Meh. You can donate a million dollars, I’ll match it. You can put $10 in, I’ll match it.
But now Darfur, you know, people you know, we get these war zones now and there are people right now surrounded by those rebels, a million people right now, and no one’s funding anything because no one can get they’ll they’ll shoot the plane out of this ai. So we just governor Beasley and I ai just teamed up and we have found this group this military group that’s retired that wanna do good works.
They’ve done it for a ai. And we’re buying the c one thirties. I’m done in the first million meals for the week. I got two people to match meh, so Sai have three weeks worth of food. We’re gonna fly in and airdrop all that food.
I’m going to UAE because I know the leaders there. We’re going to Saudi Arabia. We’re gonna say, you can’t shoot this down. This is not political. There’s no weapons.
It’s just food. And we’re gonna prove it works. And then we have a tour June with all those leaders to get them to hopefully step up. Qatar has already stepped up and said they’re gonna get 30,000,000, and we’re gonna save those lives and some people will die ai, you know, and and everybody just gives up.
Ai not a person who gives up. But I just sana say that to answer your question for anybody, I think we all need moonshots. It’s like we all need something to go through. Everybody makes sense. Yeah. You ever achieved a goal and then there’s a drop ai we’re made to keep growing.
And so when I did that, then it’s like, okay. My wife and I, we we found some kids that were trafficked. We couldn’t believe it. And I said, I wanna save as many people. The city I grew in, it was 30,000 people. So now we’re at 76,000 kids we saved.
I’ve worked with some of the best organizations, helped make a movie some of you may have seen, last year that was or two years ago, that was all about this process. And it it it blew up on July 4. You know, the sound is
pretty good. For you to frame your mind on a goal that’s measured differently than the thing that you were successful at?
Oh, my goal is to make money. And then you make a ton of money, and then you’re like, now my goal is to do something philanthropic. It’s a totally different measurement. And what happens, as you said, even if you’re motivated by it, a lot of the people around you may be very unmotivated by it and almost pull you back from it.
I’ll tell you. I’ve done this my whole life. I had sai Peter Goober’s our mutual friend.
Peter, one time Sai was arguing I’m not arguing, sharing with ai frustration that people weren’t helping these children or helping, you know, trafficking because it because it sounds so bad. You don’t wanna hear about it. And Peter really was astute. He said, Tony, he said, you taught me this. People do things for different reasons.
Some people donate because they want their name on the wall. Some people donate because they’re guilty because they inherited their money. Some people donate because they really care. You don’t care, just meet their needs. And so I found like, I had a friend that was on a plane the other day. I’ve known him forty four years.
A person’s reading my book, this is my book I did. Interviewed a 150 people who are the top regenerative scientists in the world. Right? So it’s a big book, 700 pages, and this guy’s marking it and he’s, you know, just going crazy. My friend loves to see how people respond.
He says, so what do you think of that book? And he says, oh ai god. Stem cells and this and that, you can’t believe what you can do with your body and change. And he goes, what do you think of the author? He goes, oh, he seems like such a nice guy. He took nothing from all his books. He donated it all.
He feeds all these people, but he is rich, he sai. So it must be easy for him. And my buddy turned to him and said, what if I told you I’d known Tony for forty four years? I knew when he had $10 in his pocket, didn’t know he was gonna give his next meal, and he gave 5 of it to a guy in the street.
And that he taught me if I ai give a dollar, you know, ai out of a dollar, I’m never gonna give a 100,000,000 out of a billion. And then you start now. You start now and your life is different. So I invite people to find a shah. And ai mine started with feeding two families.
And then it becomes four, and then it becomes larger. But now my economics, you know, are obviously extraordinary. But what drives me now is all the things that I’m doing, and I need tens of millions of dollars for what I donate.
Let me ask you a question on that, which is how do you think about the relationship between focus and effectiveness? A lot of folks and my experience has been the more we try and do, the more the breadth of the things we ai and do, the harder it is to do any one thing exceptionally well and have these outsized returns, and there’s a nonlinear relationship between focus and outcome.
The more you concentrate your time, energy, capital on one thing, it becomes nonlinear how well that thing does. When you’re an effective person, you have movie projects, book projects, speaking engagements, businesses, ownership in sports teams, people calling you. How How do you think about focusing your time and the effectiveness that you can then have in the things that you choose to do?
I believe in concentration of power, but I don’t have the limitation of thinking it has to be every moment on just one thing. So I actually built a system for myself when I was really young, and I had my my second business. I wasn’t doing well with my first one, so I started arya second one. Very brilliant. It’s like saying, I’m a terrible parent, sai I may have another kid.
That’s what most people do as entrepreneurs. So but I knew I needed to take control of my ai. So I took these time management courses and they, you know, gave a little book in those days and your a, b, and c priorities. And I did it for about two weeks and then after a while I was like, there’s no way I can do everything on my list, and I was frustrated.
Who can relate to this, by the way, in your own life, right? And so I was like, I said, every time management system does the same thing. I don’t know if it’s digital or not, you start with the same question. Now thinking is nothing but the process of asking and answering questions.
Now as I said that, you’re sana to think and you’re going to ask yourself is that true or not? And you’re going to evaluate it through your references and that’s a question, isn’t it? Ai we could take you all the way down the line, but for simple sake, the question of what Ai need to do is the wrong question.
So I will tell you this, when president Clinton sai what should I do? Ai I taught myself something different. I said I need to control my focus, concentrate it, but I also need to have purpose behind it because, you know, purpose is stronger than object. I ai to make a billion dollars for what though? The purpose, that’s where the energy and the fuel is.
And then I need a map, I called it Ram, like increasing RPMs to get from here to there and you know the result. Then I ask them, what do I want? What’s the result measurable? Why am I doing it? And then what’s the meh, the massive action plan?
And then I go find the 20% of things with 80% of the progress. And then I put things in categories. I have companies in categories. I have my family life in a category. My body’s in a category. And every week I predetermine what are the most important outcomes for the week.
But when you do that, you are able to have that concentration of power and Sai where I ram, I’m there 1000000%. And I Sai found that skill of concentration doesn’t have to be just one thing. If, like in your businesses, you get great leaders. Obviously, I couldn’t do all these things ai.
But when I’ve got great you know, when you got partners that are extraordinary in the health area, you know, Ai created this company called Fountain Life and I got Peter Diamandis as my ai. He’s a genius. Ai I partnered, with Sam Nazarian. Some of you know ram SBS. Right?
He created Mondrian sana Sai hotels, and we’re building 15 extraordinary luxury hotels around the world where you can go and be scanned at every area of The Ai. Now I love it. Yeah. You do? You know if it’s too meh, you’ll love it. And I have time for my daughter, which I adore. Right?
when I ai I’m I’m saying it in slightly in jest because you are hyper efficient. You got this crazy energy level. There is a theory that sometimes people become a little too addicted to success and to, you know, improving themselves. Do you ever stop and just ai enjoy the the day and not try to improve everything?
Do you ever stop and just ai laugh and maybe enjoy some sushi and off with your friends and play some cards? Or does everything have to be the seventy eighth millionth meal and person you saved?
No. Well, there’s a part of me that’s that way for sure.
No. Sai said there’s a part of meh, the first part that’s as crazy as you ai. Yeah. There’s another part of me that I value love and relationship above all else.
So, like, you know, Peter’s one of my dearest friends for thirty five years. He was down here in Miami, called me up, and we had everything booked. I moved everything, and we spent two hours just staying out together because I love him dearly. He’s eighty eighty two, 83 years old right now.
I don’t know a better human being. He’s my priority. My daughter’s my priority. My outcomes change when there’s something more important, right, that’s there. But I’ve also learned that I have to be able to turn the switch off, and I do that.
And I do that and Ray Dalio is a good friend and, you know, learning to meditate was something I thought I’d never do in my life, but I’ve developed a simpler pattern. I developed myself in meditation Ai start my days with. I have to take care of my body. And when I’m doing those things and I also when everybody else goes to bed, that’s when I get my thinking time.
And so from midnight till three or four for me is usually my time. Day.
Are you like a three hour sleeper? Like a four hour?
No. Like four and a half to five. Not ideal. Five is ideal for meh. But, I can certainly do that.
Always been that way. That’s sort of
You know, not when I was a kid, but once I discovered my passion for you know, you’ve all heard the phrase. Right? The two most important days of your ai, the day you’re born, the day you discover what you’re born for. When I discovered that, the energy in my body changed radically.
Think about, I’m curious, mortality a lot. I know you’re into the stem cells. You’re you know, you’re we’re all getting to a certain age, and we’re all going to the same destination. And, looking back on your life and then finding meaning in that, I know some people our age start thinking about legacy. Does that, like, matter to you?
And are you thinking about, hey. How many years do I have left?
I never thought of that till about 64. I’m 65 now. I never did.
So just in the last year, you started thinking about it. Yeah.
Was there something that caused that to happen?
My daughter. I think having my daughter come along, I had her at 61.
You had a daughter at 61?
Yeah. She’s four years old.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I’ve got a 50 year old daughter and a
Got it. I was confused by the math when you said all that, and I was asking the question because, you know, in your brain, it’s all questions and answers.
Because when I was using math. I told my wife originally, I said, we’re gonna have a kid by 50. I said, I I don’t wanna be there at my ai high school reunion or, excuse me, graduation, and I’m, you know, seven years old, and I’ll be 80 when I do that piece.
But I look at people like Peter or Steve Wynn. Like, I have, like, a whole group of friends in their eighties that are Peter’s doing more today than he did when I knew ai he was 45.
And so I look at that and say, but but you sana take care of your body. Yeah. And so and there are things you don’t predict. I my eye may look a little weird to some of you and may not notice, but, about three weeks ago no. Five weeks ago, I arya to feel irritation in my bladder and hard time breathing. It was very weird.
And I’m very you know, I I have a really intense so I do hyperbaric oxygen, ai, so it’s really weird for me not to have that. And, so I went and got tested at Fountain Life where we have our stuff, and they found I had this massive amount of arsenic in my body. Like, a zero to five was that they measure it, 50 would be off the charts. That was three forty five.
And it was so bad, the first thing they said is you gotta watch your ai. And five days later, my Wow. Retina detached, which can make you blind. So I went for emergency surgery here in Miami, one of the best doctors out here. And normally, you have to take the surgery, and then you have to lie ai your stomach for a week and not get up looking down because they put this gas behind the retina.
But fortunately, I I Bobby Kennedy, I put him together with Trump. He’s a good friend. I called him. He got me with top guys at two different hospitals. They said, this is the guy. We got it all together. And he said, I think this is not as effective. It’s not ai 90% effective. It’s like 70.
But if it works, you can he goes, I can’t imagine you lying on your stomach for seven straight days and nights not moving. I said, I can’t either. And he said, if I do this, it’s like a belt around your ai, and you’ll be able to sit up at least. So I that was only three and a half weeks ago. And so Ai this eye is still having some pieces. Sai, of course, that made me pay attention.
But yesterday, because I operate, I found out from Fountain Life there is a new approach to your immune system because all this is coming out because my immune system was affected by these metals. By the way, all of you have if you could give yourself a gift, you should get tested for metals. There are so many metals in our food.
all these great blood tests you can do with fountain, other services, and
them every six months for $500. And our doctors never told them to do this. They just would, like, be like, oh, yeah. Your blood works good.
But when you think you’re aging, often what it is is poisons in your body, metals in your body. It’s so crazy. So there I want everybody to know about this. There’s a name a man named doctor Zhao, and I’ve I’ve seen everything. Ai wrote Life Force, a 150 of the best degenerate doctors in the world. Sai know them all. I’ve interviewed them all.
This to me is, like, the number one thing to go to. So he has created this I’ve done stem cells. I filled my shoulder with stem cells. I didn’t have to go through surgery. But he does this, what he calls, reeducation of your immune system. My beta cells are through the floor from all these metals.
So now all the other things your body would fight off are coming through. Right? And then my whole body was going in reaction. So I sai, there is an answer. Ai sana detox, and I’m proud to tell you. And they told me it could take two years.
It took five weeks, and I’ve got all the metals down to normal levels at least now, which I’m so thrilled about. But then what I’m gonna do for my immune system? So doctor Zhao, he’s been around. He he discovered the stem cells that are in the blood, not MSC cells, but these blood cells. And he’s worked twenty five years to do it.
I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. He does plasmapheresis, you probably heard of it, where they take blood out and they put it through a filter and it’s can be very useful, I’ve had that before. But what he does, he takes your blood through and he takes your white blood cells, your immune system out ai, he puts it through a filter with cord stem cells.
You don’t actually put someone else’s cord stem cells in you. It’s the intelligence that gets transferred, and then it puts it back in your body, and then they spread and change your immune system back twenty years. That sounds like a ridiculous, promotion. This guy is not a promoter at all, and it’s all science.
But I watched Ai what got me to go there is my, one of the people ai Helen doctor Helen from our place sai that in life showed meh. She said, Tony, I think this is what you gotta do. Showing this ALS patient. ALS is usually, you know, it’s ai death sentence. And this ai shaking, he can’t take his hands above here. He does the process. Three weeks later, he’s doing this. No exaggeration.
They do type one diabetes and turn it around. Any autoimmune disease is there, and most of aging is really the breakdown of the immune system. That’s why we’re seeing so many cancers. After COVID and the injections, a lot of young people, it’s these turbo cancers that are happening, because their immune systems have been harmed.
And so now everything starts to shake up. When people think about aging, it’s really immune system. So the type of people are going with alopecia where they have no hair, this woman I met meh, and she’s got a full and she’s 70 years old, got all her hair back. It’s in New Jersey and he’s already at stage he’s on an IND, so he’s on stage three, though he’s gone through a stage three.
He’s doing a submittal, and we’re sana bring it to fountain life here because there’s nothing like I’ve seen it. But there are things like that, like if you stay well, take care of yourself now over the next five to ten years, the kinds of transformations are gonna allow us to be in a position where every year you could be a year younger, at least maintain where you are.
mean, it’s not it’s not science fiction.
Freeberg talks about this all the time on ai show. Like, we’re, like, this very interesting generation. We’re ten years behind you or maybe fifteen in some cases, but or even twenty, actually, I think. But we’re this generation that we actually might get to benefit from some of these incredible technological advancements.
Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Robbins. Thank you so much. Bring it in.
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